[00:00] <ubuntu> I can test both and hear sound
[00:00] <ubuntu> But, when I test Pulseaudio I got error message, but still hear sound
[00:01] <adi_> hi all. kubuntu jaunty 64bit with konqueror...how about flash support?
[00:01] <adi_> any solution to view youtube on konqueror 64 bit?
[00:01] <jhutchins_wk> adi_: firefox
[00:02] <ubuntu> @adi: I think that You need to install flash manually
[00:02] <ubuntu> but Firefox is better opinion
[00:02] <adi_> im giving konqueror i try
[00:02] <adi_> i want to stick for some time with  konqueror
[00:03] <adi_> so manually where to put the .so file?
[00:05] <adi_> is ther any player like totem in gnome that can playback flash content
[00:05] <adi_> but for kde what do you have as a video player
[00:07] <ign0ramus> adi_, VLC
[00:07] <ign0ramus> adi_, it's not kde-native, but still the best, imho
[00:07] <adi_> vlc can playback flash?
[00:07] <ign0ramus> adi_, afaik, it can do .swf files
[00:08] <adi_> ok guys...i need a video player that can play flash..so i dont have to handle flash in konqueror
[00:09] <Matisse> hi
[00:09] <adi_> i used like totem on gnome they have a plugin that makes totem playback flash
[00:09] <Matisse> can I install an older version of kile while the newer is also part of my system?
[00:09] <adi_> is there something close like that in kde
[00:09] <adi_> ?
[00:10] <Matisse> adi_, "that makes totem playback flash" ?
[00:11] <adi_> yes..its just a plugin
[00:12] <Matisse> is kaffeine able to play everything? would be worth searching I think
[00:12] <adi_> now should i try to make konqueror 64bit play flash or its imposible yet...or its some video player that can playback flash?
[00:21] <BluesKaj> Matisse, I think so, but VLC can play media.iso files directly and most others can't
[00:32] <quassel208> what about kde4.3 beta for kubuntu ?
[00:32] <draik> How do I close a window with irssi?
[00:33] <Ursinha> draik, /window close
[00:33] <Ursinha> being on the window :)
[00:38] <socceroos> does anyone here own a Sony Vaio P series netbook?
[00:39] <Dragnslcr> quassel208- it'll be a while before there are Kubuntu packages
[00:40] <quassel208> ow, thats stupid :(
[00:44] <ForgeAus> hmmm now that I try it KVirc does have scripting! ...
[00:44] <ForgeAus> even a GUI IDE for it
[00:45] <ForgeAus> then again it is quite a mature project... afaik
[00:53] <boss> xcv
[00:54] <boss> ipatb moy xuy )
[01:05] <yamishi> hi all
[01:05] <yamishi> what control panel you suggest me to use with a ubuntu server 8.04?
[01:06] <yamishi> and should i upgrade it to 9.04?
[01:11] <yamishi> someone?
[01:12] <boss> da xuy znaet.
[01:13] <Ursinha> hmm
[01:13] <Ursinha> !ru
[01:13] <yamishi> huh?
[01:13] <Ursinha> the boss guy
[01:14] <Ursinha> seems russian to me
[01:14] <yamishi> o.o
[01:14] <yamishi> well i don't know
[01:14] <boss> o_O
[01:15] <boss> ty o chem?
[01:15] <boss> ))
[01:15] <yamishi> huh?
[01:15] <Ursinha> !ru | boss
[01:16] <boss> thx
[01:16] <boss> )
[01:16] <Ursinha> :)
[01:17] <yamishi> so
[01:17] <Matisse> why are there 2 kopete-packages (kopete and kopete-kde4)? I installed also the 2nd, because I want to use kopete-kde4-otr-plugin but there's only kopete that I can start...
[01:17] <yamishi> should i upgrade from 8.04 to 9.04?
[01:17] <yamishi> (in a server)
[01:18] <Matisse> (seems like there is no otr-plugin for the normal kopete)
[01:19] <Matisse> yamishi, there's still support 8.04, am I right?
[01:19] <yamishi> yes
[01:19] <yamishi> it's a LTS
[01:19] <yamishi> next LTS is gonna be 10.04
[01:19] <yamishi> i think
[01:19] <Matisse> so, there's no need to update for security reasons
[01:20] <yamishi> well that's true
[01:20] <yamishi> then
[01:20] <yamishi> what control panel should i use for my server?
[01:21] <aaron_> need a little help i'm following a bluetooth guide on http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showthread.php?t=780054
[01:21] <aaron_> whenever i try typing pactl load-module module-alsa-sink device=btheadset i get this message Failure: Module initalization failed
[01:25] <Lillymon> OK, I'm on KDE 4.2 now. First question, how do I use different wallpapers on different desktops? I thought this was possible, though I see no way of doing it.
[01:26] <mark__> right click the desktop
[01:26] <Lillymon> Right, I'll do that in a minute. Plasma just crashed. No more than an hour in. What then?
[01:27] <Lillymon> At the moment, I am swearing at KDE 4 a lot more than I did at KDE 3.
[01:28] <aaron_> does kubuntu works with bluetooth audio headsets?
[01:28] <aaron_> i tried following 2 different guides with no luck
[01:28] <Lillymon> If it's not crashing or annoying you, maybe.
[01:29] <nindy> hello
[01:29] <mark__> ive been fiddling with the new KDE 4.2.3 for the last couple of days also but so far im starting to prefer gnome
[01:29] <afeijo> what can cause my keyboard to not work as expected on the text area of kopete?
[01:29] <yamishi> i tried some time ago with a pair of motorola speakers
[01:29] <Lillymon> mark__: I think I already know the feeling. I've just gone from Ubuntu 9.04 to Kubuntu 9.04, and the latter is really annoying me now.
[01:30] <yamishi> and they didn't run at 100%
[01:30] <mark__> i agree Lillymon
[01:30] <Lillymon> At the moment, it appears my bottom panel has gained a 'phantom widget' that does nothing but cannot be removed.
[01:31] <mark__> i added the CPU widget to my panel yesterday and it still isnt working
[01:31] <mark__> all it shows in an hour glass
[01:32] <aaron_> damn linux suck i had enough of this
[01:32] <Lillymon> I'm still only a few hours in. Weren't you going to tell me about different wallpapers on different desktops? I had neat little slideshows up on KDE 3, but KDE 4 doesn't seem so cooperative.
[01:33] <Lillymon> Also, completely unlike KDE 3, my auto-hiding panels completely disappear when I change desktops, and it seems to be a fight to get them back.
[01:33] <mark__> if u right click the desktop theres a way to download different wallpapers if i remember correctly
[01:34] <Lillymon> I already have folders with different wallpapers in them. Handily called 'desktop1', 'desktop2' and so on. The wallpapers I want to use for each desktop slideshow are right there, but how do I make KDE use them?
[01:35] <Lillymon> It clearly doesn't use the same method KDE 3 used.
[01:36] <afeijo> anyone installed spore already? :)
[01:36] <iLLeet> anyone know how i can login as root on terminal
[01:37] <yamishi> hey all
[01:37] <Lillymon> Screw this, I'll just try to get OSS working so I can at least have my music. Assuming Amarok isn't broken too.
[01:37] <yamishi> what cpanel should i use for my ubuntu server
[01:40] <dennister> hey folks...all of a sudden I can't print...think it's a permissions problem because ipp error report is:  I get on the jobs report is: Unable to open device "hal:///org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_4f9_161_G01234567890_if0_printer_noserial": Permission denied
[01:41] <yamishi> well
[01:41] <yamishi> if it's a permission sudo
[01:41] <dennister> for some reason it's shared, but I don't want it to be...can anyone pls help me?
[01:41] <yamishi> try chmod
[01:41] <dennister> sudo or chmod what, tho?
[01:41] <yamishi> try both
[01:42] <dennister> that doesn't tell me what to sudo or chmod :)
[01:42] <yamishi> well
[01:42] <yamishi> try chmod
[01:42] <yamishi> i think is better
[01:43] <dennister> i know the commands, thanks, but apply them to what?
[01:43] <yamishi> to the driver of the printer
[01:44] <yamishi> i think
[01:44] <dennister> where the heck is that device in my file system...and if it's in my /dev location, chmodding or chowning won't survive a reboot
[01:45] <yamishi> well yeah
[01:45] <ubuntu> hi all guys...i have a problem...my grub is broken...how do i solve it...the error is 22
[01:45] <yamishi> but i don't know pretty much about native drivers
[01:45] <yamishi> ubuntu
[01:45] <dennister> ubuntu: could you change your nic, pls...we'll have tons of people in here with that nic
[01:45] <ubuntu> sorry...
[01:46] <yamishi> next time make a backup of your grub
[01:46] <rgarcia> sorry i`m at live cd
[01:46] <dennister> rgarcia: yes, I realize that :-) thks
[01:46] <rgarcia> lol...so dennister, do you how do i solve that
[01:47] <yamishi> no actualyy no
[01:47] <dennister> rgarcia: if I remember correctly, the problem is probably related to your system map in your menu.list file
[01:47] <dennister> how many physical drives do u have
[01:47] <rgarcia> for example, how do a reinstall grub?
[01:48] <dennister> reinstalling grub won't do the trick...what you probably need to change is the (hd0,1) or (hd1,x)
[01:50] <rgarcia> sorry i`m new here...how do i do that
[01:51] <awnage> hello. My laptop's DVD is wrecked, and the bios won't boot from a USB thumbdrive. Is there any way for me to install kubuntu via an existing linux (gentoo)? (I do not have windows either).
[01:52] <curiouscuz> awnage you can mount an iso
[01:52] <dennister> rgarcia: here's the thread...read it carefully...steps are to mount your hard drives from within livecd mode, then find out which partition ...http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[01:53] <rgarcia> ok dennister, thanks a lot
[01:53] <awnage> curiouscuz: via grub?
[01:53] <dennister> no problem...when it happens to me i know which partitions my startup files are on, so I just edit grub from within grub :-)
[01:54] <moja2> Why is kubuntu getting slow after many hours I use it? It force me to restart hard, because I takes long time to restart using the soft restart button
[01:54] <curiouscuz> awnage: if you can download the iso, from the gui, you may be able to just mount the iso and begin install
[01:54] <moja2> I mean, using Kubuntu restart button
[01:55] <rgarcia> mmm...ok....one more thing..grub must be at linux partitio right?
[01:56] <rgarcia> find /boot/grub/stage1
[01:56] <rgarcia>  (hd2,1)
[01:56] <rgarcia> what does it mean?
[01:56] <ubuntuviruz> hi :)
[01:56] <awnage> curiouscuz: i have the iso, can mount it via loop easily, ... the install part is the big ??
[01:57] <dennister> rgarcia: great...now open menu.list, and make sure your stanzas at the bottom of the file use (hd2,1)
[01:57] <curiouscuz> awnage: if you browse the mounted iso, does it not have an install script?
[01:57] <rgarcia> what is it stanzas?
[01:58] <rgarcia> and where is menu.list?
[01:58] <dennister> sorry...groups of lines...like stanzas in a poem, they're separated by a blank line
[01:58] <ubuntuviruz> I just have to warn you all, I am a 99% completely noob, I cant even install anythin on my own, I downloaded the firefox 3.5 beta archive and could not install it, but Im relying on the package manager from now on, so just to warn you, I might be asking a lot of noob questions in the days/weeks/months to follow..
[01:58] <dennister> sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.list
[01:58] <rgarcia> mm ok...
[01:58] <dennister> or .lst...forget
[01:58] <curiouscuz> awnage: i ask that as when you load the (k)ubuntu live cd, you have the option to install it and the first reboot doesnot take place untill the installation is complete
[01:58] <rgarcia> right let me see
[01:59] <dennister> ubuntuviruz: we were all noobs once :-)
[01:59] <awnage> curiouscuz: my cd drive no longer works, so I cannot boot to the CD
[02:00] <ubuntuviruz> dennister: woohoo :P btw, is there no ops in the channel? I scrolled the name menu but could not see any notation of anyone being an op...
[02:00] <dennister> anyone know how to un-share a printer?
[02:00] <JuJuBee> I put a dvd in my drive but Device Notifier doesn't show it.
[02:00] <rgarcia> dennister it appears a black window w/ something below
[17:47] <dwidmann> so the driver for it, are you sure it supports wireless N?
[17:47] <peabody> it's using the RT2870 chipset
[17:48] <peabody> I'm not sure if it's supported in the driver
[17:49] <peabody> checking the bug report now..
[17:50] <peabody> hmm.. it says support for the chipset was added in kernel 2.6.28-11.36
[17:51] <peabody> what's the rate for draft N if G is 54M
[17:51] <peabody> I'll see if I can't set it manually
[17:51] <dwidmann> peabody: think something like 300
[17:51] <dwidmann> (which means a real transfer speed of about maybe 12MB/s
[17:51] <desafinado> folks, when i try to do software update, i got this msg " The backend took too much time to process the synchronous request - you need to fork! " and my update failed. what does it mean?
[17:53] <peabody> yeah, it's configured to 54 Mb/s
[17:53] <peabody> whack
[17:53] <peabody> let me try one more time at 150
[17:53]  * Mamarok wonders who wrote this message
[17:54] <Mamarok> desafinado: try again
[17:54] <desafinado> okay amarok
[17:54] <eagles0513875> anyone here ever setup lemon point of sales :( tried the man page and there isnt much on it and according to the man page it was done by vorian
[17:55] <peabody> ugh, I think stupid plasmoid might be interfering
[17:55] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: please, ask the lemonpos folks, nobody here knows that
[17:55] <eagles0513875> Mamarok: ;( ok takes ages to get an answer regard it there is no irc channel since its deved by one man :(
[17:55] <dwidmann> peabody: I question anything that says Rosewill on its about to connect at full speed anyway ... Rosewill stuff in general has a tendancy to be not of the highest quality ... (though it is generrally the lowest price)
[17:55] <genii> desafinado: https://bugs.launchpad.net/packagekit/+bug/272410     No suitable solution yet.
[17:55] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: well, patience then, I can't invent something
[17:56] <desafinado> okay genii
[17:56] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: also get yourself a MySQL book to learn how to set up a database for a store, I don't think it's so much a lemonpos problem
[17:56] <dwidmann> genii: that definitely sounds like a nasty bug.
[17:56] <peabody> this is my first rosewill purchase, but I've been watching them for awhile, and they seem to have an attention to detail and responded to their customers well
[17:57] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: takes ages: you asked yesterday, remember?
[17:57] <eagles0513875> ya :( ill keep hacking at it
[17:57] <eagles0513875> that was a different problem though
[17:58] <dwidmann> peabody: I'm pretty sure Rosewill is Newegg's brand... I have a few things that say Rosewill on them and they're fairly solid, but I do a lot of review reading first
[17:59] <peabody> yeah, I pretty much read all the reviews as well.. the one negative review on this one had a response from rosewill with a patch in the comments
[17:59] <peabody> I thought that was interesting that they responded to comments on newegg... but it that 's their house  brand, that would make sense
[17:59] <dwidmann> Cool
[18:00] <dwidmann> peabody: some companies actually do (I read that as, the ones that care actually do)
[18:00] <peabody> well this doesn't seem to connect higher than 54Mbit, and my signal quality is 97/100
[18:02] <peabody> maybe I'll compile the driver from ralink and if that doesn't help chalk it up to bad support., and I thought I did a good job making sure I had a compatible wireless adapter o well
[18:03] <dwidmann> peabody: well, keep googling for the info ... I didn't find an answer but I didn't go further than a page
[18:03] <peabody> http://www.apfelkraut.org/2009/02/howto-wlan-ralink-rt2870-usb-stick-kubuntu-810/
[18:03] <peabody> someone already tried that and they claim to be stuck at G speeds as well with 9.04
[18:04] <peabody> though they say it worked in 8.10
[18:04] <peabody> I gotta check changelogs for thedriver to see if they mention anything about that
[18:06] <corigo> KPackageKit returning no search results regardless of the query. 9.04 64
[18:07] <Mamarok> corigo: what did you search exactly?
[18:08] <Mamarok> corigo: it certainly works here with the KDE 4.2.3 packages, can't test the 4.2.2
[18:08] <Mamarok> corigo: also, do not use capital letters
[18:09] <Mamarok> unless you search by description
[18:11] <corigo> Konqueror, Java, Firefox... several things
[18:11] <corigo> Sorry not Konqueror, Krusader
[18:12] <Mamarok> corigo: as I said, don't put capitals unless you search by description
[18:12] <Mamarok> search for java, firefox, etc.
[18:12] <corigo> It also never completes it's refresh of repository listings, and didn't save my addition of the krusader repository
[18:13] <guja> Hello all. Which qt version uses KDE in Kubuntu 9.04?
[18:13] <genii> 4.4.3
[18:13] <Mamarok> corigo: if you add external repositories, you have to add the gpg key, else it will not work
[18:13] <guja> genii any chance to upgrade it manualy to 4.5.0?
[18:13] <genii> 4.5 may now be in -proposed
[18:13] <Mamarok> genii: ? Isn't it 4.5.0?
[18:14] <Tm_T> erm?!
[18:14] <peabody> oh snap
[18:14] <genii> Mamarok: Maybe now. When I d/loaded the Qt sources a few weeks ago however, it was at 4.4.3
[18:14] <peabody> I think I figured it out
[18:14] <peabody> 802.11N doesn't support WEP
[18:14] <peabody> so I think by choosing WEP, I'm forcing a degraded mode
[18:15] <corigo> Can't even install a debian package
[18:15] <genii> !info libqt4-core jaunty
[18:15]  * Tm_T slaps genii 
[18:15] <genii> guja: Looks like at 4.5 currently
[18:16] <guja> genii: thanks.
[18:16] <Mamarok> corigo: which package do you want to install? Usually there is no need to add Debian repositories
[18:16] <Tm_T> genii: been since Jaunty beta(s) I believe
[18:16]  * Mamarok was quite asto ished about 4.4.3 too
[18:16] <Mamarok> +n
[18:17] <dwidmann> peabody: that may be it
[18:17] <corigo> I install many packages via the repositories, Virtual Box for example
[18:17] <dwidmann> (WEP isn't secure at all anyway, why bother with it?)
[18:17] <genii> Tm_T: I see now I had 8.10 deb-src and not 9.04 (I'm on 8.04 and wanted later qtlibs for Arora and Quassel compiling )
[18:17] <Mamarok> corigo: if kpackagekit doesn't work, you can still sue aptitude, but I can sure you, it works with kde 4.2.3 (which is in kubuntu-ppa)
[18:17] <peabody> yeah I know
[18:18] <peabody> I've got pretty good physical security of my wireless network
[18:18] <peabody> since I'm at the end of the street with a big yard
[18:18] <peabody> but my nextdoor neighbor is my only worry
[18:18] <peabody> and they don't need access to all my porn :p
[18:18] <peabody> though wep cracking isn't their forte as an auto mechanic
[18:18] <Tm_T> too much information...
[18:19] <peabody> but I'm buying a wireless N bridge for my xbox anyways so I can run in pure N without mixed mode
[18:19] <peabody> end of hassles
[18:20] <corigo> Mamarok: how am I to install it? It doesn't list in my KPackageKit and .deb files are failing to install
[18:21] <Mamarok> corigo: aptitude and kpackagekit are just frontends to apt-get, so you can still use the command line
[18:22] <forn711> Hi all!
[18:22] <Mamarok> corigo: in konsole, tpye sudo apt-get update
[18:22] <Mamarok> type* even
[18:22] <Mamarok> then sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:22]  * Mamarok doesn't remember if aptitude is installed by default
[18:23] <corigo> It doesn't list in an Alt F2 search
[18:23] <Mamarok> corigo: well, no, it's a command line tool, so unlikely
[18:24] <Mamarok> corigo: open a konsole and type aptitude
[18:24] <Mamarok> then you will know
[18:27] <swatto> hi all
[18:27] <peabody> hrmm
[18:27] <peabody> it still doesn't seem to connect above G
[18:29] <corigo> apt-get is working...
[18:29] <corigo> thanks
[18:30] <ForgeAus> where can I get libqtwebkitld package from???
[18:31] <carpii> apt-cache search libqtweb
[18:32] <ForgeAus> thx
[18:33] <lonelysoul> how can i set a password for a folder?
[18:33] <ForgeAus> nope google gadgets still complains
[18:34] <ForgeAus> apt-cache search found libqtwebkit2.2-cil - Qt4 bindings for CLI, QtWebkit edition
[18:34] <ForgeAus> but after I installed it it still said  google-gadgets: Depends: libqtwebkit1d but it is not installable
[18:34] <swatto> Can anyone recommend a good torrent client please
[18:35] <ForgeAus> ktorrent
[18:35] <ForgeAus> whats wrong with that?
[18:36] <Mamarok> ForgeAus: are you going to do mono developement?
[18:36] <ForgeAus> uh, no... why? what is googlegadgets anyway?
[18:37] <Mamarok> oh, wait, didn't read above, sry
[18:37] <ForgeAus> what made you think mono development?
[18:37] <ForgeAus> I've done some CLR stuff in windows (ie .NET as opposed to mono)
[18:38] <ForgeAus> essentially same thing ... kinda
[18:38] <Mamarok> ForgeAus: the cli bindings are only used for mono stuff
[18:38] <LizardQueen> Hi there. How do I reformat my 512MB Kingston Micro SD Card?
[18:38] <ForgeAus> (I must admit I do like system.windows.forms )
[18:39] <hunter_> evening. need some help regarding apache, and the log /var/www/ where is the index.html. i tried to replace it of course with a homepage but it says i can read only. how can i change chmod 777 in this case?
[18:39] <lonelysoul> hey download gnome format
[18:40] <hunter_> who.. me
[18:40] <lonelysoul> hey can you tell me how to format a memory stick
[18:41] <guja> When I save color scheme in Appearance, can I find file with that scheme configuration somewhere and apply it to KDE on other laptop?
[18:41] <nickn_> ..
[18:43] <lonelysoul> how will we join another irc channel?
[18:44] <swatto> Anyone know a good tutorial for getting to know the terminal, commands and such?
[18:45] <lonelysoul> how can i set a password for a folder?
[18:45] <hunter_> àah, got it!! easy
[18:46] <lonelysoul> is anyone there who can answer me?
[18:46] <hunter_> http://www.ss64.com/bash/
[18:47] <Mamarok> lonelysoul: just a password? or do you want to encrypt the folder?
[18:47] <lonelysoul> just a password
[18:49] <Mamarok> lonelysoul: never did that, encrypting would be easier
[18:49] <Mamarok> lonelysoul: you can creat a new user, then chown the folder to that user for example
[18:49] <lonelysoul> i dont know much about encryption
[18:49] <Mamarok> but using your own gpg key would be much easier
[18:50] <Mamarok> !gpg | lonelysoul
[18:51] <wizardslovak> how to install ati radeon card?
[18:51] <wizardslovak> i mean command for it
[18:52] <Mamarok> wizardslovak: you mean the driver for the card?
[18:52] <wizardslovak> in my laptop i got ati mobility radeon x1400 card
[18:52] <wizardslovak> i need to install it
[18:52] <Mamarok> wizardslovak: no the card is installed, you need to install the driver
[18:53] <wizardslovak> before i restarted pc everything worked, now i cant watch movies
[18:53] <wizardslovak> i hear sound but dont see video
[18:53] <jason_froebe> wizardslovak - did you install the codecs from !medibuntu
[18:53] <jason_froebe> !medibuntu
[18:53] <Mamarok> hm, are you sure this is a video card problem?
[18:54] <wizardslovak> i did install restricted-formats
[18:54] <wizardslovak> might be
[18:55] <paolo> ciaoo
[18:55] <paolo> !list
[18:56] <wizardslovak> still dont see video
[18:57] <anonimous_> грядет новый веток кризиса: молдавия подняла цены на укроп
[18:57] <wizardslovak> !restricted formats
[18:59] <roconnor> what program do I use to scan documents in 8.10?
[18:59] <tdn> The new Kubuntu 9.04 boots a bit faster than the old one, but how can I make it boot even faster?
[19:01] <ForgeAus> google picasa tends to function as if wine is built into it :(
[19:01] <ForgeAus> even calls the root level file browse "desktop"
[19:07] <genii> tdn: You can put a one-time option into your grub kernel loading line of: profile            And boot once to that, then remove it.
[19:07] <DjNeophyte> hi
[19:08] <snarkster> hi i just dont get it.. i try to get no plasmas widgets and it always fails.. is there some secret to installing new plasma widgets
[19:09] <tdn> genii, ok. Will that make my boot time fasteR?
[19:09] <genii> tdn: It will be slow when you have the "profile" in it, but it gathers info and makes all the times after faster
[19:11] <tdn> genii, ok. Will try that. Other things?
[19:12] <genii> tdn: Nothing I would suggest to new users.
[19:12] <tdn> genii, can I set some services to not start on boot but only on demand when I need them? Like CUPS for instance?
[19:12] <tdn> genii, why not? Can it go wrong? Does it require any configuration other than one line in menu.lst?
[19:13]  * genii sips and considers which of the many questions to first address
[19:15] <tdn> genii, sorry for the lots of questions :)
[19:15] <galvanize> do any of you use the ubuntu firewall or other ones?
[19:16] <tdn> galvanize, I use iptables.
[19:16] <galvanize> tdn: and you like it
[19:16] <galvanize> ?
[19:16] <genii> tdn: For services like cupsys ... if you are familiar with update-rc.d then you could disable it from running at usual runlevels, enable it when you want to run it. Not recommended however. About other speed up things: If you come from a Gentoo sort of history yu may be familiar with "emerge world" which builds everything by compiling it.
[19:16] <tdn> galvanize, I just have a drop policy in iptables input chain and allow a few specific ports open like 22/tcp and 53/udp.
[19:17] <tdn> galvanize, yes.
[19:17] <galvanize> tdn: oh ok.
[19:17] <wizardslovak> galvanize: i use ufw and it works great
[19:17] <tdn> genii, I would like the services to start as I need them. I do not want to manually start CUPS when I need to print.
[19:18] <ryan_> wow am I really online ?
[19:18] <ryan_> I haven't been on IRC in years
[19:18] <wizardslovak> lol
[19:18] <swatto> I have just installed Python 3.1 from a tar, how can I check if it has installed correctly and put it on my K menu?
[19:18] <wizardslovak> ok so i need someone to point me to some good help about email servers in ubuntu
[19:18] <tdn> genii, I do not use Gentoo...
[19:18] <wizardslovak> i got all day long and ready to make email work
[19:18] <tdn> genii, I come from a Debian background actually :)
[19:18] <genii> tdn: There is in *buntu an apt-build    which can customize applications to be built to take adavantage of the specific architecture, etc. But also not recommended since many other apps may require particular versions from repository compiled for i386 or amd64
[19:19] <tdn> ryan_, no. We are all local bots on your machine ;)
[19:19] <roconnor> is scanner support completely removed in 8.10?
[19:19] <tdn> genii, ok.
[19:24] <deathindustrial> howdy
[19:27] <deathindustrial> anyone home?
[19:27] <robin____> hi
[19:27] <deathindustrial> howdy. . .
[19:27] <deathindustrial> looking for help with a question about the software updater
[19:27] <deathindustrial> (not sure the correct name for it)
[19:28] <deathindustrial> seems to be connected to adept
[19:28] <robin____> you mean update-manager
[19:28] <deathindustrial> maybe. . .
[19:28] <deathindustrial> it appeared with Jaunty
[19:28] <nighty> hi
[19:28] <robin____> hi
[19:28] <nighty> is there a way to get kde 4.3.0 beta 1 to try it out?
[19:28] <robin____> what's you question with it?
[19:28] <deathindustrial> my question is that I accidentally clicked the "store password" option at one point
[19:29] <deathindustrial> now I cannot find anywhere to clear that out
[19:29] <Mamarok> nighty: see the topic
[19:29] <robin____> you mean you storred it using kwallet?
[19:29] <deathindustrial> there is no option on the app itself
[19:29] <deathindustrial> not sure. . .kwallet does not seem to have it obviously stored
[19:29] <deathindustrial> for example, kmail prompts me everytime
[19:30] <deathindustrial> even though it uses kwallet
[19:30] <nighty> Mamarok: oh the topic was cut off so i couldn*t see it before. thx
[19:30] <deathindustrial> it is just update-manager that seems to have stored it somewhere
[19:30] <deathindustrial> and the app offers no way to un-store it
[19:30] <robin____> you can check the aplications that use kwallet by right click on the icon->configure wallets->access control
[19:31] <nighty> chgentoo
[19:31] <nighty> hmpf
[19:31] <deathindustrial> I do not see update-manager in that list
[19:31] <Mamarok> deathindustrial: kpackagekit
[19:32] <deathindustrial> ok. . .that is not in the list either
[19:33] <deathindustrial> so where is it storing the password?  It does not offer an option to remove it
[19:33] <Mamarok> deathindustrial: close the system settings and your password should be gone
[19:33] <Mamarok> just do not store it next time
[19:33] <deathindustrial> um. . .this has survived multiple reboots
[19:34] <deathindustrial> what I am saying is that now when the update-manager (or kpackagekit) or whatever the update app is starts up, it no longer askes for a password
[19:34] <Mamarok> deathindustrial: there is a timeout for the session normally
[19:35] <deathindustrial> well, it has been like this for a week or two now
[19:35] <deathindustrial> and my PC gets turned off at least once or twice a day
[19:35] <deathindustrial> it must have stored it in a file somewhere
[19:37] <deathindustrial> kpackagekit looks like it. . .nothing talking about passwords under settings though
[19:38] <tdn> genii, I just tried adding profile as a kernel argument.
[19:38] <genii> tdn: It will take a while to boot, as it gathers info for future streamlining. But subsequent boots will be faster. You need to remove the option afterwards
[19:39] <tdn> genii, I measured boot time before the profiling three times. It was 27.5s. Then I booted with profile. First boot took 4 mins and 10 secs. Then I removed profile and booted three times and measured the average. It is now 25.5s. So 2 secs off but just this. Cool :D
[19:39] <Mamarok> deathindustrial: remove the kpackagekit file in .kde/share/config/
[19:40] <genii> tdn: If later you do kernel updates, re-do the process again.
[19:41] <tdn> genii, ok. How can I automate the process of having profile added the first boot after kernel upgrade?
[19:41] <deathindustrial> hey Mamarok, no file matching kp* anywhere under .kde
[19:41] <genii> tdn: I believe it may be an option in the grub's menu.lst. If not, you can also specify for initramfs to do it.
[19:41] <Mamarok> deathindustrial: try KPackageKit
[19:42] <tdn> genii, how do I do this?
[19:43] <deathindustrial> arrrgh
[19:43] <genii> tdn: Apologies, initramfs way likely will not work (but for modules, etc it can, probably not one-time kernel load options however)
[19:43] <tdn> genii, what will work then?
[19:43] <genii> tdn: Give me a minute to check menu.lst options
[19:43] <deathindustrial> found the file but it only has the following: [FilterMenu] ViewInGroups=false
[19:43] <deathindustrial> no password
[19:45] <deathindustrial> nothing useful under /usr/share either that I can see
[19:46] <genii> tdn: Bah, can't find a fast way offhand in the menu.lst.   But worst case you just need to manually enable/remove it once after a kernel update, as you just did.
[19:47] <deathindustrial> Mamarok. . .on another note, know much about Amarok?
[19:47] <Brazilian_Joe> Hiall
[19:47] <deathindustrial> hey BJ
[19:47] <Mamarok> deathindustrial: a bit, yes
[19:48] <deathindustrial> have you used the last.fm plugin?  It seems to be broken. . .
[19:48] <Mamarok> deathindustrial: which version are you using?
[19:49] <Brazilian_Joe> I use Kubuntu 9.04 under vmware fusion. Firefox has been acting up. Sometimes I leave the VM for itself for some time, and get to work on Mac OS X. When I get back eveything is a crawl.
[19:49] <deathindustrial> I am using 2.0.2
[19:49] <Brazilian_Joe> Like as if everything was thrown in swap, but there is lot of contention geting it back to ram
[19:49] <Brazilian_Joe> only happens when firefox is open
[19:49] <tdn> genii, yeah, I can do that, but average Joe cannot. I think this should be a priority to get fixed, since it can give a more than 5% faster boot time. It seems like an almost trivial thing to do.
[19:49] <Mamarok> deathindustrial: you should update to d,1 beta 1, this has been solved
[19:50] <deathindustrial> d?
[19:50] <tdn> Of course, I do not know how to do it, but I think someone knows.
[19:50] <Brazilian_Joe> I gave the machine 900MB RAM, and only use it lightly. Kate for programming mostly - web development
[19:50] <Mamarok> deathindustrial: last.fm changed their API and their conditions, so you should also check if the radio is still available for free in your country
[19:50] <genii> tdn: Perhaps make a feature request on the grub section at launchpad bugs
[19:50] <tdn> genii, ok. I will.
[19:50] <deathindustrial> I am only using it for reporting
[19:51] <deathindustrial> not for streaming from last.fm
[19:51] <tdn> genii, will you confirm it?
[19:51] <Mamarok> deathindustrial: check out the 2.1 beta1 package then
[19:51] <Brazilian_Joe> anyone else experience this?
[19:51] <deathindustrial> OK, thanks
[19:51] <Mamarok> or hold on for 2.1 beta2, due any day now
[19:51] <genii> tdn: If a project is specified, I'm sure someone there will look at it
[19:52] <deathindustrial> BJ, Firefox will eat a lot of RAM if you are hitting Javascript heavy pages
[19:52] <deathindustrial> any chance you are just going into swap?
[19:53] <Mamarok> deathindustrial: you will have to tab complete, else his nich will not highlight
[19:53] <Mamarok> his nick* even
[19:54] <deathindustrial> been ages since I have used IRC
[20:00] <deathindustrial> Brazilian_Joe: sounds like you are just hitting swap
[20:01] <deathindustrial> Brazilian_Joe: would be pretty simple to do, especially after switching away from the virtual machine for a bit
[20:04] <Pupeno> Hello.
[20:04] <Pupeno> Is there a way to get a printed list of what you are putting in an audio CD using K3B?
[20:06] <stacey_> wut upp
[20:06] <stacey> so how are you guys doing?
[20:07] <deathindustrial> ok, yerself?
[20:11] <Ab3L> hello
[20:12] <Ab3L> do you know if it is possible to write scripts for Dolphin, like it is possible with Nautilus?
[20:15] <rjune> Ab3L: I  think you can script most kde apps
[20:16] <Ab3L> ok. i look forward some goodies in google
[20:18] <tdn> genii, do you know about the CONCURRENCY=shell option in /etc/init.d/rc?
[20:18] <genii> tdn: I had read of it, but have not experimented in that yet
[20:18] <tdn> genii, ok.
[20:18] <dwidmann> it works, concurrency=concurrent will bork your boot process though
[20:19] <tdn> dwidmann, it will? Then why is it available?
[20:19] <dwidmann> tdn: Well, circumstantially with enough fiddling you may be able to eventually get it to work, maybe, if you're skilled and lucky.
[20:20] <dwidmann> tdn: it sounds wonderful, but it's disabled by default for a good reason
[20:21] <tdn> dwidmann, ok.
[20:25] <Ab3L> bye
[20:26] <sd> hi all
[20:28] <Idhan> is there any why to get a task bar like in OSX
[20:29] <tdn> Idhan, yes. Right click on panel > new panel.
[20:30] <tdn> Idhan, oh. I just realised that I misunderstood. This is not how you do it. I think you need to install Baghira.
[20:32] <tdn> How do I disable Bluetooth from starting up?
[20:32] <Idhan> tdn: Baghira?
[20:33] <tdn> Idhan, http://www.google.dk/search?q=baghira
[20:33] <Idhan> do you mean this http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=8692
[20:34] <tdn> Idhan, http://baghira.sourceforge.net/screenies.php
[20:34] <Idhan> tdn: but I want the task bar to look like OSX, the windows it doesnt matter
[20:35] <tdn> Idhan, you can do that with Baghira. Just only enable the taskbar.
[20:35] <tdn> Idhan, you can just enable the other features from baghira in kcontrol.
[20:35] <Idhan> tdn: ok..thank you, I'll take a look on it
[20:46] <solifugus> How can i set the time on my kubuntu (kde 4) laptop?
[20:50] <andre_pl> solifugus: system settings -> date & time
[20:52] <solifugus> andre_pl: ok.. thanks.. in kde 3, I could just do it from the clock on the lower right.. much more intuitive.
[20:54] <solifugus> according to system settings, my time is correct.. so its just my clock on the lower right that is wrong.
[20:56] <solifugus> nothing i do seems to fix it.. its' 12:56 currently but that stupid kde clock says 2:56
[20:56] <solifugus> it was correct before my upgrade..
[20:57] <jason_froebe> make sure your Time Zone is "local" in digital clock settings?
[21:01] <kaddi> evening :)
[21:40] <jinzougen> So, when I log into kubunu, all the icons on my main panel get jumbled up. Every time I drag them back to where they should be and then lock the widgets, but next time it starts up, they're screwed up again. has anybody complained about this yet? I upgraded to jaunty just a few weeks ago...
[21:40] <doug_f> What is the easiest way to see what drivers are in use? like IE the wireless drivers?
[21:54] <mark____> recently upgraded from ubuntu 8.10 to 9.04 jaunty, upgraded to KDE 4.2.3 now im running kubuntu 9.04 and nothing but problems with KDE
[21:55] <mark____> widgets refuse to work only an hour glass symbol seems to appear
[21:56] <mark____> Amarok  sometimes works and sometimes doesnt then shuts down unexpectedly
[21:56] <mark____> what is it with this KDE anyway , does anything work right?
[21:57] <mark____> i think im going back to gnome and to hell with this KDE
[21:59] <keyser_soze> mark____: I think it's safe to say that most of don't have those problems
[22:00] <mark____> well ive tried adding widgets and some do work but others are showing an hour glass symbol in the add widget application
[22:01] <jussi01> mark____: could have been the upgrade, especially if you had alternate repos enabled
[22:01] <mark____> that could be
[22:02] <mark____> sorry to vent but ive not had much luck with it yet
[22:02] <jussi01> mark____: Ive heard a few reports of bad/borked upgrades
[22:02] <mark____> gnome works perfectly
[22:02] <jussi01> Id suggest a backup and reinstall
[22:02] <jussi01> I know thats drastic
[22:03] <jussi01> mark____: did you have other 3rd party repos enabled prior to the upgrade?
[22:03] <mark____> i re enabled the third party repos after the jaunty upgrade
[22:04] <jussi01> mark____: but prior to the upgrade ou had the intrepid ppa's?
[22:04] <jussi01> you*
[22:04] <jurco> Hi guys, please HELP! My keyboard has gone mad! It behaves like I am pressing number 1 randomly. What does it mean?
[22:04] <mark____> in intrepid yes
[22:04] <jurco> I have to delete the ones always. Even now!
[22:05] <mark____> but the jaunty upgrade automatically disabled the 3rd party repos
[22:05] <jussi01> mark____: ok. I suspect that the packages from those repos do not upgrade cleanly, causing these issues.
[22:06] <mark____> thats probably it then
[22:07] <mark____> i just dont want to have to re download everything again
[22:07] <jussi01> mark____: Personally, Id use gnome until you have a chance to get a disk - perhaps shiptit?
[22:07] <BluesKaj> mark____, yes I made the mistake of upgrading with some experimental ppas that I suspect ' upgraded ' and thereby broke my system so badly I couldn't get a TTy to remove stuff or even try to edit my sources.list ..  it took 2 attempts at a clean install before I got a working jaunty.
[22:08] <mark____> im on a limited internet connection using an aircard and that would be costly
[22:09] <jurco> anybody can help? my keyboard writes "1" itself without pressing a key
[22:10] <mark____> i think for now i will just have to carry on using gnome then until i can figure out what to do next
[22:10] <skierpage> installing a 100+ updates (KE 4.2.3 goodness?) KPackageKit failed with "The backend took too much time to process the synchronous request - you need to fork!"
[22:11] <skierpage> Useless message! - what do I do now!?
[22:11] <BluesKaj> mark____, that's the wise thing to do til a stable cheap internet connect is available
[22:11] <mark____> yes i just wanted to give KDE a go and see what it was like
[22:12] <mark____> it seems to be a really good desktop but for now i will wait
[22:16] <mark____> thanks for your input guys im heading back into jaunty for now
[22:16] <mark____> hopefully i will be back at a later date with a stable KDE
[22:19] <ncfi1013> is there any way to convert .iso images to .avi files?
[22:19] <guillaume_> hi
[22:20] <guillaume_> i need some help
[22:20] <ncfi1013> guillaume_ hi
[22:20] <Caldavien_> where can I specify how often the updater looks for updates? i only want it to check like once a week instead of daily
[22:20] <guillaume_> i want to connect my ubuntu server on my comp but use my comp as a router for hit i am on ubuntu 9.04 somone have an idea ont what i need
[22:21] <guillaume_> i got multpiple network card on my comp
[22:21] <guillaume_> and i don't have a router and want to use hit like a router
[22:21] <ncfi1013_> is there any way to convert .iso images to .avi files?
[22:24] <galvanize> How can I tell what KDE version I have? Besides looking in Konqueror?
[22:25] <jason_froebe> ncfi1013_ - dvd::rip comes to mind
[22:25] <jason_froebe> as well as handbrake
[22:25] <ncfi1013> on linux?
[22:26] <jason_froebe> yup
[22:26] <ncfi1013> handbrake isnt just for windows?
[22:26] <jason_froebe> dvd::rip is in the repos but handbrake you will need to download off the web
[22:26] <jason_froebe> nope... mac, linux, windows ...'tis opensource too
[22:26] <ncfi1013> cool
[22:29] <ncfi1013> jason_froebe do i need virtual machine to run it because it gave a 404 error in installation
[22:30] <jason_froebe> 404 error is an http error
[22:31] <jason_froebe> click on the debian/ubuntu package and save to disk
[22:31] <jason_froebe> then run : sudo dpkg -i ....
[22:34] <ncfi1013> jason_froebe: ok im a noob. pretend i dont know what comes after "sudo dpkg -i..." and i will be greatly appreciative
[22:37] <ncfi1013> jason_froebe i really would appreciate the help
[22:38] <wizardslovak> what should i use to open .chm
[22:38] <wizardslovak> ??
[22:42] <SteBo> wizardslovak: kchmviewer
[22:46] <wizardslovak> how to mount iso ?
[22:47] <m4v> !loop
[22:47] <m4v> !iso
[22:47] <jason_froebe> !dpkg
[22:48] <jason_froebe> ncfi1013:  sudo dpkg -i name_of_ubuntu_package.deb
[22:48] <jason_froebe> will install the handbrake package
[22:48] <jason_froebe> you need to do so from a command prompt
[22:48]  * Kuark is away: Gone away for now.
[22:49] <zer0o> showbrand 0
[22:49] <wizardslovak> is there gui software for monuting isos?
[22:49] <zer0o> hi guys, does anyone play NEXUIZ? ive got a problem, CSQC unloaded it says, and then doesn't load the .sav file, wouldn't let me access next level, any idea?
[22:51] <SteBo> wizardslovak: gisomount
[22:53] <wizardslovak> "Could not find 'gksudo' executable."
[22:54] <SteBo> wizardslovak: either start it with kdesudo (Alt+F2 and enter kdesudo gisomount) or install gksudo
[22:55] <SteBo> wizardslovak: or change the .desktop file of gisomount to use kdesudo
[22:55] <ncfi1013> jason_froebe: can you tell me if i installed it right? here is the pastebin link: http://pastebin.com/m28084456
[22:55] <jason_froebe> wizardslovak: sudo aptitude install gnome-sudo
[22:56] <jason_froebe> ncfi1013 - looks good :) if you want a gui for handbrake, there is a linux gui on the handbrake website - install it the same way
[22:56] <wizardslovak> ok works
[22:56] <wizardslovak> thx
[22:56] <jason_froebe> np
[22:57] <SteBo> bye
[22:59] <ncfi1013> jason_froebe: i think that is the one i did: "GTK GUI (Ubuntu 8.10 x86 Binaries), (9.4 MB)" right?
[23:00] <jason_froebe> yup
[23:00] <silentstri16> hey im looking for a program similar to windows wamp... i think its called lamp or something... anyone know?
[23:01] <jason_froebe> going home... lots of work to do yet for work from home ... ugh
[23:01] <ncfi1013> also thanks wizardslovak for gisomount
[23:01] <silentstri16> oh wait nvm
[23:01] <silentstri16> lol
[23:01] <jason_froebe> silenstri16 - zinf I think
[23:02] <wizardslovak> lol thankx for everything then
[23:19] <ign0ramus> is there a difference between a 'widget' and a 'plasmoid' as far as kde4 is concerned?
[23:19] <isAAAc-laptop> i think it's the same, but i'm not sure
[23:20] <ign0ramus> isAAAc-laptop, that's the conclusion i've reached, but then i'm left wondering why have 2 terms for the same thing?
[23:20] <isAAAc-laptop> that's the same thing i was thinking
[23:20] <isAAAc-laptop> ^^
[23:21] <isAAAc-laptop> i try a check on different website to help you
[23:22]  * AreKuark is back.
[23:25] <isAAAc-laptop> well plasmoid are widget called like that by mandriva
[23:25] <xjjk> anyone use a wallpaper spanning 2 monitors with KDE 4?
[23:26] <ign0ramus> isAAAc-laptop, hmm... i guess. still stupid to have two different names.  "plasmoids" is a little more descriptive than "widgets"... at least in this context
[23:27] <isAAAc-laptop> i think widget comes from Mac universe, and plasmoid from Plasma, the new system since few month
[23:27] <Pconfig> xjjk, is it even possible?
[23:28] <isAAAc-laptop> but i'm not sure
[23:28] <xjjk> Pconfig: that's what I'm wondering... it doesn't seem as if it is
[23:28] <jhonalexander> hi
[23:28] <jhonalexander> latins
[23:28] <jhonalexander> ????
[23:28] <xjjk> Pconfig: plasma only lets me configure 1 wallpaper/1 monitor
[23:28] <Pconfig> xjjk: I don't think it is, last time i checked
[23:28] <xjjk> Pconfig: mm.. you know if there's a bug tracking this, or anything like that
[23:28] <Pconfig> xjjk: I've read someone who asked this in kde brainstorm forum
[23:29] <jhonalexander> hi iam latin, speak spanish ?????
[23:29] <Pconfig> xjjk: let me check
[23:29] <xjjk> Pconfig: happen to have the link handy?
[23:29] <isAAAc-laptop> i dislike plasma for now, i ask myself if i won't downgrade to kde 3.5
[23:30] <ign0ramus> !es | jhonalexander
[23:30] <jhonalexander> ubottu is a bot ?? o user ???
[23:31] <Pconfig> xjjk: i can't seem to find it anymore, sorry
[23:31] <xjjk> Pconfig: thanks, I'll look around for it
[23:31] <jhonalexander> thanks for help me OK ????
[23:32] <swatto> Hmm what can I do to learn about linux more...kinda bored now that I have the programs I wish to use installed
[23:33] <isAAAc-laptop> swatto: break your linux and repair it
[23:33] <swatto> but if i cant fix it im screwed
[23:34] <Pconfig> xjjk: take a look here https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=164779
[23:34] <xjjk> Pconfig: great, thanks!
[23:35] <xjjk> Pconfig: hrm, though, their workaround doesn't work too well for me...
[23:35] <xjjk> I had several spanning wallpapers that I randomly rotated
[23:35] <Pconfig> xjjk: I'm afraid there ain't a good solution for now. All you can do is reply on the bugreport and add your votes in
[23:36] <xjjk> Pconfig: oh well, thanks
[23:36] <Pconfig> no problem
[23:37] <isAAAc-laptop> [00:34] <swatto> but if i cant fix it im screwed  <<< use a second kernel special to break your system
[23:38] <swatto> completely confused me there lol
[23:52] <swatto> hmm I dont have gedit installed on my system - do i just install it from package manager?
[23:52] <Pconfig> why would you install gedit? :p
[23:53] <xjjk> Pconfig: all these stupid tutorials that say use gedit, probably
[23:53] <CoJaBo-Aztec> swatto: Try substituting nano instead.
[23:53] <CoJaBo-Aztec> \What does it mean when free disk space is marked "unusable" by the installer?
[23:53] <swatto> nano?
[23:54] <xjjk> swatto: it's a command-line text editor that fairly easy to use
[23:54] <Pconfig> swatto: you could use kate, it's somewhat the kde gedit
[23:54] <dwidmann> I wonder how long until Quassel gets spellcheck
[23:54] <CoJaBo-Aztec> \What does it mean when free disk space is marked "unusable" by the installer?
[23:54] <CoJaBo-Aztec> What does it mean when free disk space is marked "unusable" by the installer?
[23:55] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Sorry, don't know why it posted that twice :/
[23:55] <Pconfig> CoJabo-Aztec, what installer?
[23:55] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Pconfig: The install kubuntu installer.
[23:56] <Pconfig> CoJabo-Aztec, maybe the partition you're trying to put in is too small to fit kubuntu's basic installation?
[23:56] <CoJaBo-Aztec> I deleted a partition hoping to replace it with 2 partitions, it seems I can't do that?
[23:56] <Pconfig> you can do that when you boot from the live cd and start gparted
[23:56] <swatto> Also I have installed Python 3.0.1 but how do I get it to run?
[23:57] <dwidmann> swatto: pull up a shell and type python ... does this do anything?
[23:57] <isAAAc-laptop> learn to use nano, cause when your X will be broked, it's usefull to know how to use a command-line editor to repair it
[23:57] <isAAAc-laptop> sudo aptitude install nano
[23:58] <dwidmann> isAAAc-laptop: it's installed by default, is it not?
[23:58] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Watch out tho, nano has an annoying habbit of inserting line breaks in stupid places :/
[23:58] <isAAAc-laptop> oh, probably ^^
[23:58] <swatto> If I type just python it brings up: Python 2.6.2 (release26-maint, Apr 19 2009, 01:58:18)
[23:58] <mamatz> bonne nuit à tous
[23:59] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Pconfig: Gparted is not installed?
[23:59] <dwidmann> swatto: you'll need to specify the full path then
[23:59] <Pconfig> CoJabo-Aztec: right, we're working with kubuntu.. It might be called qtparted
[23:59] <swatto> but If i type python 3.1 it brings up: Python 3.0.1+ (r301:69556, Apr 15 2009, 17:25:52)
[23:59] <swatto> so it seems I have both installed? but dont know how to use it