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| pace_t_zulu | i see there have been no updates to karmic today... | 00:47 |
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| BUGabundo | pace_t_zulu: I got plenty | 00:47 |
| pace_t_zulu | i suppose this is because of Alpha 1 tomorrow | 00:47 |
| BUGabundo | ahhh true | 00:47 |
| pace_t_zulu | BUGabundo: maybe i installed them without realizing... | 00:47 |
| pace_t_zulu | hmmm | 00:48 |
| ienorand | Yea there were around ~15 afaik | 00:51 |
| BUGabundo | night | 00:53 |
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| B0ia_fria | i'm having a little problem using live from karmic... i'm using ext4 on hd0,0... and get this massege before drop to busybox SQUASHFS error: Major/Minor mismatch, older Squashfs 3.1 filesystems are unsupported... any idea? | 19:20 |
| B0ia_fria | already using 2.6.30 rc5 | 19:27 |
| mrpockets | ohhi! | 19:39 |
| mrpockets | I want to be WOWd with 9.10 | 19:40 |
| mrpockets | what can i play with? | 19:40 |
| rski | nothing yet really | 19:40 |
| rski | bit early | 19:40 |
| mrpockets | I can't put my finger on it, but somethings prettier | 19:41 |
| mphill | mrpockets: thats the placebo effect | 20:31 |
| mrpockets | lol | 20:42 |
| BUGabundo | hi everyone | 21:31 |
| pace_t_zulu | hey BUGabundo | 21:31 |
| mrpockets | guys | 21:32 |
| BUGabundo | pace_t_zulu: [[]] | 21:32 |
| mrpockets | im having some issues with dvd::rip | 21:32 |
| mrpockets | is such software kinda frowned upon here? | 21:32 |
| pace_t_zulu | mrpockets: are you having problems on karmic? | 21:32 |
| mrpockets | I'm not famaliar with this karmic which you speak of | 21:33 |
| pace_t_zulu | mrpockets: we will assume you are violating any copyright laws when ripping a DVD | 21:33 |
| pace_t_zulu | !ot | mrpockets | 21:33 |
| ubottu | mrpockets: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks! | 21:33 |
| mrpockets | pace_t_zulu, the irony is that I never legit purchase DVDs, but got a good deal on TakeDown, and want to rip it to the collection on the count of i screw up every disk i touch | 21:34 |
| pace_t_zulu | mrpockets: please take your questions elsewhere | 21:34 |
| BUGabundo | pace_t_zulu: uhh on topic, but aggressive... | 21:37 |
| BUGabundo | you scared him | 21:37 |
| pace_t_zulu | BUGabundo: how was he on topic? | 21:38 |
| BUGabundo | we need to make Ubuntu better... not scare new users | 21:38 |
| BUGabundo | he wasnt | 21:38 |
| BUGabundo | but there's ways to tell it nicelly | 21:38 |
| BUGabundo | you did the correct thing | 21:38 |
| pace_t_zulu | i did tell him | 21:38 |
| pace_t_zulu | i gave him an !ot message | 21:38 |
| BUGabundo | just a bit aggressively | 21:38 |
| BUGabundo | nevermind | 21:38 |
| pace_t_zulu | BUGabundo: i get what you are saying... he seemed like the MPAA | 21:39 |
| pace_t_zulu | just trying to target Ubuntu next | 21:39 |
| BUGabundo | eheheheh | 21:39 |
| BUGabundo | pace_t_zulu: I have the same prob. most of what I say can look aggressive to others, and mean stuff I didn't mean to say :( | 21:39 |
| pace_t_zulu | BUGabundo: i made it clear to discuss it in the context of legal ripping of DVDs | 21:40 |
| pace_t_zulu | and mrpockets made it clear he wouldn't | 21:40 |
| pace_t_zulu | BUGabundo: sounded like the MPAA up to dirty tricks | 21:41 |
| pace_t_zulu | BUGabundo: i should have been nicer, agreed | 21:44 |
| foxbuntu | pace_t_zulu, do you watch dvds with vlc + libdvdcss2? | 21:45 |
| pace_t_zulu | BUGabundo: but this guy being clear about breaking the law on official Ubuntu channels | 21:45 |
| foxbuntu | (or similar) | 21:45 |
| pace_t_zulu | foxbuntu: on occasion yes | 21:45 |
| BUGabundo | pace_t_zulu: if he does, redirect the subject to #ubuntu-ops | 21:45 |
| foxbuntu | pace_t_zulu, thats actually ripping a dvd | 21:45 |
| pace_t_zulu | foxbuntu: believe me, i have nothing but contempt for the MPAA | 21:46 |
| foxbuntu | pace_t_zulu, I am not saying your wrong in how you handled it...but I wanted to clear a point | 21:46 |
| pace_t_zulu | foxbuntu: i am aware of the point... | 21:46 |
| foxbuntu | :) | 21:47 |
| pace_t_zulu | foxbuntu: thank you though for clearing that up, if i hadn't been aware, it is a good thing to know | 21:47 |
| foxbuntu | many dont know that (with the exception of LinDVD and fluendo codecs) DVD and MP3 playback in Linux is actually illegal | 21:47 |
| ienorand | Was he not asking for a backup in this specific case? | 21:48 |
| foxbuntu | ienorand, not really | 21:48 |
| ondisk | foxbuntu: that depends on which country, right? | 21:49 |
| foxbuntu | ondisk, any country that acks US Patent and Copyright laws | 21:49 |
| BUGabundo | Portugal is NOT ilegal | 21:50 |
| ondisk | then canonical is obviously assisting that crime | 21:50 |
| foxbuntu | ondisk, nope, look at what canonical provides | 21:51 |
| ondisk | foxbuntu: what does it provide? | 21:51 |
| BUGabundo | ondisk: a buddy to help *buy* codecs legally | 21:52 |
| foxbuntu | ondisk, the default install of Ubuntu does not support DVD CSS or encoded WMA/MP3 ect | 21:52 |
| ondisk | foxbuntu: it's just one or two clicks away, tho | 21:53 |
| foxbuntu | ondisk, but thats the case in Windows too | 21:54 |
| foxbuntu | what the user does with the O/S and third party software is not canonical's fault | 21:54 |
| pace_t_zulu | need to reboot | 21:55 |
| Trewas | foxbuntu: canonical has the mirrors which offer mp3 etc codecs, so it is not really 3rd party software | 21:57 |
| Trewas | but I guess they have done their legal homework :P | 21:57 |
| acicula | i thought the reason it is split is the same as why by default nvidia drivers are not included by default? used to be so anyway | 21:58 |
| foxbuntu | Trewas, not exactly, the mirror hosting libdvdcss2 are outside canonical, and the mp3 codecs are as well | 21:58 |
| BUGabundo | humm you guys mean medibuntu? | 21:59 |
| BUGabundo | !medibuntu | 21:59 |
| ubottu | medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org | 21:59 |
| foxbuntu | BUGabundo, :) | 21:59 |
| Trewas | foxbuntu: at least mp3 codecs are in main canonical mirrors | 21:59 |
| foxbuntu | acicula, not exactly (again), Ubuntu only includes "free" software in the main distro | 22:00 |
| ondisk | http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/g/gst-plugins-ugly-multiverse0.10/ | 22:00 |
| Trewas | maybe in multiverse but I don't think that would make any difference legally | 22:00 |
| foxbuntu | Trewas, yes, gstreamer is free | 22:00 |
| ondisk | mpeg and mp3 is patented | 22:00 |
| foxbuntu | Trewas, gstreamer is licensed and legal | 22:00 |
| IngForigua | are there support for spanish language in openoffice? | 22:00 |
| foxbuntu | Trewas, I applogize I wasnt clear by saying MP3 | 22:01 |
| Trewas | foxbuntu: legal (in copyright sense) and patent-free are different things | 22:01 |
| acicula | foxbuntu: yes mp3 is a patented technology, nvidia drivers are proprietary, so not free and therefor not included right? | 22:02 |
| acicula | well "free" | 22:02 |
| foxbuntu | acicula, correct | 22:02 |
| foxbuntu | Trewas, i understand that...however you should go have a look at gstreamer vs the codecs provided by medibuntu | 22:03 |
| BUGabundo | hi IngForigua. welcome here | 22:04 |
| Trewas | foxbuntu: I know there are commercial fuendo codecs available if someone wants to be really within the bounds of law... | 22:04 |
| Trewas | fluendo | 22:04 |
| IngForigua | thanks BUGabundo, I migrate to karmic 15 min ago :) | 22:05 |
| foxbuntu | Trewas, indeed there are, but MP3 has two patent holders, one @ MIT (gstreamer) and 1 corporately held (most common) and this is the one fluendo licenses | 22:05 |
| BUGabundo | IngForigua: I know! I read on Identica | 22:06 |
| IngForigua | some apps is in english, and i am a spanish user :P | 22:06 |
| acicula | is it legal to use libdvdcss in the states or does it conflict with the dmca? | 22:07 |
| foxbuntu | acicula, not legal | 22:08 |
| IngForigua | i migrate through update-manager | 22:08 |
| BUGabundo | IngForigua: translatios aren't still open for karmic | 22:08 |
| BUGabundo | its too soon | 22:08 |
| IngForigua | I can help to translate in lauchpad? | 22:09 |
| acicula | IngForigua: i think so, there's a list of untranslated sentences i think | 22:09 |
| acicula | via LP, but going of memory here | 22:10 |
| IngForigua | Ok, that's right | 22:10 |
| BUGabundo | IngForigua: sure! but try to interact with your translation team for your language | 22:12 |
| IngForigua | acicula: the translations is not available for karmic :( | 22:13 |
| IngForigua | BUGabundo: ok | 22:13 |
| acicula | IngForigua: to new i suppose | 22:14 |
| IngForigua | https://translations.launchpad.net/ <<<<----- isn't available | 22:14 |
| foxbuntu | IngForigua, https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+translations | 22:15 |
| foxbuntu | IngForigua, karmic isnt open yet | 22:15 |
| IngForigua | when, open the translatios, do you know foxbuntu | 22:16 |
| foxbuntu | IngForigua, sorry I dont know when. Likely near Alpha 1 release | 22:17 |
| BUGabundo | !schedule | IngForigua | 22:17 |
| ubottu | IngForigua: A schedule of Karmic Koala (9.10) release milestones can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicReleaseSchedule | 22:17 |
| BUGabundo | foxbuntu: Alpha1 comes out today, right? eheh | 22:17 |
| foxbuntu | BUGabundo, oh crap does it? | 22:17 |
| BUGabundo | I think so | 22:17 |
| BUGabundo | we are on freeze for it | 22:18 |
| BUGabundo | let me check cdimage | 22:18 |
| acicula | thought i saw someone say that | 22:18 |
| foxbuntu | yup | 22:18 |
| acicula | (earlier)( | 22:18 |
| foxbuntu | ugh | 22:18 |
| BUGabundo | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/9.10/alpha-1/ | 22:18 |
| BUGabundo | its out | 22:18 |
| acicula | bunch of updates today at least | 22:18 |
| IngForigua | June 11th | 22:18 |
| foxbuntu | well I gtg now anyways...later all | 22:18 |
| IngForigua | oks :) is on June 11th | 22:18 |
| acicula | cya | 22:18 |
| * BUGabundo checks for updates | 22:18 | |
| digitaloktay | what is the next release name after karmic? | 22:20 |
| IngForigua | gnome 2.27.1 looks very good :) | 22:21 |
| acicula | there's a list somewhere on the wiki, but i dont think it's very fixed | 22:21 |
| BUGabundo | digitaloktay: still unk aFAIK | 22:22 |
| * IngForigua think that karmic will be the best :) | 22:25 | |
| BUGabundo | me too IngForigua | 22:25 |
| BUGabundo | ~200 ppl on +1? nice | 22:26 |
| IngForigua | goodbye | 22:27 |
| digitaloktay | but gnome seems to be the same | 22:28 |
| BUGabundo | yep | 22:30 |
| BUGabundo | still no new release | 22:30 |
| acicula | is there anything exciting in a new gnome release? | 22:32 |
| acicula | *the | 22:32 |
| BUGabundo | what new? | 22:34 |
| BUGabundo | isn't it .26.1 ? | 22:34 |
| mphill | BUGabundo: it is according to the about screen | 22:34 |
| mphill | they claim its .27 | 22:35 |
| BUGabundo | ahh | 22:35 |
| mphill | i saw some libraries come down the other day | 22:35 |
| BUGabundo | guess I'm still late on upgrades | 22:35 |
| mphill | maybe its sorta in a hybrid state | 22:35 |
| mphill | thus far, there is nothing to write home about really | 22:35 |
| BUGabundo | $ apt-cache policy gnome-about Installed: 1:2.26.1-0ubuntu2 | 22:35 |
| digitaloktay | yes *** 1:2.26.1-0ubuntu2 0 | 22:36 |
| mphill | i upgraded my nvidia driver to the lastest last night and the window decorator coruption is back again | 22:37 |
| mphill | can't win | 22:37 |
| mphill | gotta go! later | 22:38 |
| BUGabundo | mphill: using repo version or Nvidia site? | 22:39 |
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| BUGabundo | humm | 23:28 |
| BUGabundo | does mutting sound with keyboard shortcut, FAIL? | 23:28 |
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