| seb128 | robert_ancell: hey | 00:16 |
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| robert_ancell | seb128: hey! Reading through your feedback with totem... | 00:17 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell: I didn't email you for tasks for the day but in a summary I bounced all your sponsoring requests with some changes to do | 00:17 |
| robert_ancell | yeah, you're mean :P | 00:17 |
| seb128 | that should take a bit, especially the totem update which should switch to cdbs and stop building totem-xine | 00:17 |
| seb128 | lol | 00:18 |
| robert_ancell | yay! The death of totem-xine. I tried to get it to work with DVDs but it wasn't working for me. That may make some unhappy people | 00:18 |
| seb128 | upstream decision | 00:18 |
| seb128 | it's weird that you managed to still build a totem-xine | 00:18 |
| seb128 | is it just starting totem gstreamer? | 00:19 |
| seb128 | it probably ignored the configure option and built the same binary twice | 00:19 |
| robert_ancell | I'm not sure, I didn't install totem-xine to test. | 00:19 |
| seb128 | anyway time for packaging simplification | 00:19 |
| seb128 | you can probably clean the totem bugs specific to xine too | 00:20 |
| seb128 | look for bugs which have a closed upstream task if you do that, upstream closed some already | 00:20 |
| seb128 | (there is an option on the detailed search page on launchpad) | 00:20 |
| seb128 | otherwise you can have a look to the merges list and pick some to help on that too | 00:23 |
| seb128 | gnome-screensaver would be a good one | 00:23 |
| seb128 | and the compiz stack | 00:23 |
| robert_ancell | *shudder* | 00:23 |
| seb128 | the mergings are not so fun but we are almost done, soon we can focus on GNOME 2.27 updates and bug fixing which will be nicer ;-) | 00:24 |
| robert_ancell | yes | 00:25 |
| robert_ancell | Is esound deprecated yet? | 00:25 |
| seb128 | sort of since pulseaudio is used nowadays, why? | 00:25 |
| robert_ancell | just noticed it in merges.u.c, it would be nice to get rid of it finally | 00:25 |
| seb128 | there is a sync request waiting for it | 00:26 |
| seb128 | I guess it will be synced after alpha1 | 00:26 |
| seb128 | esound (the server binary) is in universe | 00:27 |
| seb128 | but libesd is still used by quite some applications | 00:27 |
| seb128 | (apt-cache rdepends libesd0) | 00:27 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - on the subject of totem, could we disable the tracker plugin? | 00:28 |
| chrisccoulson | it won't work with the new version of tracker and will need some work on it | 00:28 |
| robert_ancell | ok | 00:29 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson: talk to robert_ancell he's on charge for totem now ;-) | 00:29 |
| seb128 | I've no objection | 00:29 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks | 00:30 |
| chrisccoulson | robert_ancell - would you mind doing that? | 00:30 |
| chrisccoulson | i think it's enough to just drop the build-dep on libtrackerclient-dev | 00:31 |
| robert_ancell | chrisccoulson: no prob | 00:31 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks:) | 00:31 |
| seb128 | ok, enough for today | 00:32 |
| seb128 | good night or day respectively to everybody | 00:32 |
| chrisccoulson | good night seb128 | 00:33 |
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| artir | beware of the paella | 17:49 |
| pitti | artir: I will, no seafood for me | 17:54 |
| artir | pitti: paella also comes in the "arrow ibérico" (rice&meat) variety | 17:55 |
| artir | :) | 17:55 |
| pitti | kenvandine: weird, can you see the three files in Allhands 2009 Presentations from LaMont Jones/SkillsDevelopment/ ? | 17:59 |
| seb128 | pitti: where is APPORT_IGNORE_... checked? | 17:59 |
| pitti | it's now empty for me on the web ui | 17:59 |
| * kenvandine looks | 17:59 | |
| seb128 | pitti: seems to not be working on karmic | 17:59 |
| pitti | ./apport/ui.py: 'APPORT_IGNORE_OBSOLETE_PACKAGES' not in os.environ: | 18:00 |
| pitti | should work in all frontends | 18:00 |
| kenvandine | pitti: that isn't shared with me | 18:00 |
| kenvandine | but... i think lamont was complaining about this a little bit ago | 18:00 |
| pitti | seb128: what are you trying to do? | 18:00 |
| seb128 | pitti: apport-cli -c crash with some outdated packages installed | 18:01 |
| pitti | kenvandine: I'm sure I saw the files there some hours ago | 18:01 |
| seb128 | ie | 18:01 |
| seb128 | 'APPORT_IGNORE_OBSOLETE_PACKAGES=1 apport-cli -c crash" | 18:01 |
| kenvandine | pitti: yes, the files disappeared | 18:01 |
| kenvandine | they are investigating now | 18:01 |
| pitti | kenvandine: I renamed my file some hours ago, only to find it renamed back ten minutes ago | 18:02 |
| pitti | I renamed it again now and wanted to check whether it worked this time | 18:02 |
| kenvandine | humm | 18:02 |
| kenvandine | they are investigating, seems all the files disappeared on the web end | 18:02 |
| pitti | okay, thank you | 18:02 |
| kenvandine | lucio is helping him | 18:02 |
| kenvandine | np | 18:02 |
| * pitti -> off IRC for a bit to practice talk | 18:03 | |
| kenvandine | this is a good exercise for u1 :) | 18:03 |
| kenvandine | later | 18:03 |
| pitti | kenvandine: yeah, lots of people banging on one folder | 18:03 |
| seb128 | pitti: no, not working | 18:04 |
| seb128 | grrrr I wanted to take a screenshot without dist-upgrading | 18:04 |
| seb128 | ok, let's forget about this one | 18:04 |
| chrisccoulson | is mounting all done via dk-disks in karmic now or is it still using HAL? | 18:21 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: this is somewhat unclear to me, since our current gvfs ships both | 18:33 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: my test package in the ubuntu-desktop PPA only had DK-disks | 18:33 |
| pitti | and in fact, I'll rip out the hal backend now | 18:34 |
| pitti | just finished my talk | 18:34 |
| chrisccoulson | it was unclear to me too. i was going to look at updating ntfs-3g package and was wondering whether to drop the hal rules i added in jaunty to make auto-mounting work properly | 18:34 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - is nautilus working ok for you? i can't access computer:/// at the moment (timeout by message bus), but it's not clear to me what isn't sending a reply :-/ | 18:36 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: it crashes often, but I can get to computer:/// just fine | 18:36 |
| chrisccoulson | hmmm. i wonder whats wrong at my end | 18:36 |
| chrisccoulson | not sure how to debug that. doesn't gvfs use p2p dbus connections for a lot of stuff? it makes it difficult for debugging | 18:37 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: no off-hand idea, I'm afraid; I hope it's not the gdu and hal backends fighting each other or so | 18:38 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: try running the gvfs daemon in foreground debug mode perhaps? | 18:39 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - i can try that. | 18:39 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks | 18:39 |
| pitti | meh, disabling hal backend disables libgphoto and cdda backends, too | 18:40 |
| artir | that should die! | 18:41 |
| pitti | artir: certainly not the libgphoto backend? | 18:42 |
| pitti | cdda is quite neat as well | 18:42 |
| pitti | although not nearly half as interesting as it used to be, with RB handling it very well now | 18:42 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - there's no debug output from gvfsd. but i notice that gvfsd-computer is not running | 18:43 |
| chrisccoulson | ah | 18:43 |
| chrisccoulson | gvfsd-computer is crashing here | 18:43 |
| chrisccoulson | that's why it doesn't work ;) | 18:43 |
| pitti | if test "x$enable_gphoto2" != "xno" -a "x$msg_hal" = "xyes" ; then | 18:43 |
| pitti | hmm | 18:43 |
| * chrisccoulson goes to debug gvfsd-computer | 18:44 | |
| artir | pitti: the bug | 18:44 |
| * kenvandine heads out for a doctor appointment | 18:45 | |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - gvfsd-computer only crashes when gvfs-gdu-volume-monitor is running | 19:00 |
| chrisccoulson | if i chmod -x gvfs-gdu-volume-monitor and then restart gvfsd so it runs the gvfs-hal-volume-monitor, then it works ok;) | 19:01 |
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| pitti | chrisccoulson: darn :/ that doesn't seem to happen for me then | 19:14 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm just doing some debugging now | 19:15 |
| chrisccoulson | it seems g_drive_get_name () returns a NULL at daemon/gvfsbackendcomputer.c:461 | 19:16 |
| chrisccoulson | which then gets passed to strchr, where it crashes | 19:16 |
| chrisccoulson | doesn't do it for every drive though | 19:16 |
| chrisccoulson | out comes the gio reference me thinks | 19:18 |
| pitti | wife alarm :) see you tomorrow, and good night! | 19:52 |
| artir | XD | 19:59 |
| chrisccoulson | hey seb128 | 22:37 |
| chrisccoulson | about the patch translations we spoke about earlier.... | 22:38 |
| seb128 | hello chrisccoulson | 22:38 |
| chrisccoulson | it doesn't work so well. i just tried it here and the pot files don't get merged | 22:38 |
| chrisccoulson | it creates 2 pot files instead | 22:38 |
| chrisccoulson | so, i think i'll stick with the old way;) | 22:38 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson: yeah, that's what I did too for the merges I did | 22:41 |
| seb128 | I commented on the rules line | 22:41 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - i didn't do that with gnome-session when i rebased it a couple of weeks ago. i should check over it really to make sure any new strings were imported ok | 22:43 |
| seb128 | if they were not they will be translated on launchpad | 22:44 |
| seb128 | but it's likely that the gnome-session will go upstream this cycle anyway | 22:44 |
| Ampelbein | seb128: hello there. was my abiword merge good to go? also, is there any other update/merge you want me to do? | 22:48 |
| seb128 | Ampelbein: hi, sorry I'm busy working on slides for a presentation I've to give next week and on uds topics, I didn't have time for review or sponsoring today | 22:49 |
| seb128 | Ampelbein: nothing special, just pick in the merge.ubuntu.com list ;-) | 22:49 |
| Ampelbein | seb128: oh, ok. no problem. | 22:49 |
| Ampelbein | seb128: well, there is a rather complicated thing i'm on right now, bug 368918 . just wanted to check with you that there is nothing urgent before working on that. | 22:51 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 368918 in daemontools "Please sponsor 0.76-3ubuntu1 into karmic" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/368918 | 22:51 |
| seb128 | Ampelbein: ok, no nothing urgent desktop is mostly uptodate, waiting for the next 2.27 round now ;-) | 22:52 |
| seb128 | good luck with this one | 22:52 |
| Ampelbein | thanks. have fun with your presentation next week | 22:53 |
| * KaptenRodSkagg_ is away: Jag är upptagen | 23:22 | |
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