[00:00] <bryce> guess it doesn't hurt to keep it for now
[01:29] <bryce>  I've updated this page to latest http://people.ubuntu.com/~bryce/symptoms_intel.html
[01:45] <jbarnes> bryce: wow you've put a lot of work into that
[01:46] <bryce> well, at least my scripts put in a lot of work ;-)
[01:46] <jbarnes> heh
[01:46] <jbarnes> I see we won't have any shortage of topics at uds
[01:46] <bryce> actually Geir and mnemo and others have been working hard getting the appropriate tags added
[01:47] <jbarnes> cool
[01:47] <bryce> I did run a script that looks for obvious things like "freeze" or "corrupt" in the subject and add those tags
[01:48] <bryce> jbarnes: one thing we need to get figured out is whether to target -intel 1.7, 1.8, or 1.9 for karmic
[01:48] <jbarnes> right, we can talk about that
[01:48] <jbarnes> to kms or not to kms
[01:49] <jbarnes> ok back to the bbq
[01:49] <bryce> cya
[06:56] <tjaalton> bryce: it needs vmmouse_detect from mdetect
[06:57] <bryce> tjaalton: debian has a hal tool for this now it seems
[07:01] <tjaalton> checking
[07:01] <bryce> but I think it hurts nothing to retain mdetect, if we think it's still necessary
[07:02] <bryce> I suggested the person attempting the merge doublecheck with you
[07:02] <tjaalton> oh right, the driver includes vmmouse_detect now
[07:02] <tjaalton> so the dep can be dropped
[07:03] <tjaalton> the hal callout script uses that, but the version in jaunty didn't include vmmouse_detect.c, so the dependency was added
[08:47] <bryce> http://people.ubuntu.com/~bryce/symptoms_ati.html
[10:05] <tseliot> bryce: are you still there?
[10:06] <tseliot> maybe it's a bit late there
[10:07] <tseliot> tjaalton: ping
[10:07] <tjaalton> tseliot: yo
[10:07] <tseliot> can you sponsor this fix, please? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libxi/+bug/373711
[10:08] <tseliot> the last debdiff is the right one
[10:08] <tjaalton> the version is wrong, SRU's should use -xubuntux.1
[10:08] <tjaalton> s/x/X/g
[10:09] <tjaalton> otherwise, sure
[10:09] <tseliot> aah, -1ubuntu1.1 ?
[10:09] <tjaalton> yes
[10:09] <tseliot> ok, let me correct the debdiff
[10:14] <tseliot> tjaalton: done. Thanks again :-)
[10:14] <tseliot> pitti is going to review the SRU today
[10:23] <tseliot> tjaalton: BTW are you going to the UDS?
[10:24] <tjaalton> tseliot: unfortunately not, didn't fit the schedule
[10:24] <tseliot> :-(
[10:24] <tseliot> so there will be only 2 X guys at the UDS...
[10:25] <tjaalton> and I think I'll miss the next one too, since I'll be in South Korea the first two weeks of November, so even if they don't overlap it's unlikely I'll get to go to the next UDS :P
[10:25] <tjaalton> you'll manage ;)
[10:26] <tseliot> South Korea? On a vacation, I hope ;)
[10:26] <tseliot> hehe
[10:26] <tjaalton> kind of, a choir competition in Busan
[10:28] <tseliot> nice
[10:28]  * tseliot can't sing...
[10:30] <tjaalton> heh :)
[10:32] <tjaalton> libxi uploaded
[10:32] <tseliot> tjaalton: you rock ;)
[10:34] <tjaalton> I know ;)
[10:34] <tjaalton> heh
[11:25] <tseliot> tjaalton: can you upload the fix to karmic, please?
[11:25] <tseliot> pitti thinks it's better this way
[11:29] <Sarvatt> i think it might be more complicated than just being fast user switch applet now tjaalton, slowdown started up again every time i use sudo and hal-acl-tool runs
[11:35] <tjaalton> Sarvatt: it doesn't do that anymore after I removed FUSA from my panel, logged out and back in and added FUSA back
[11:35] <Sarvatt> i did the same but it popped back up about 12 hours later
[11:36] <Sarvatt> well I left it removed since I dont need it
[11:38] <Sarvatt> so weird, i just did a sudo apt-get install acct so i can track down what its doing and after it lagged through installing that it completely stopped doing it again
[11:40] <Sarvatt> ahh it swapped out a big 400mb chunk at the same time, here comes the intel font corruption :D
[11:49] <tseliot> tjaalton: did you see my request?
[11:49] <tseliot> ^^
[11:49]  * tseliot is sorry about being a pain
[11:53] <tjaalton> tseliot: ah, right
[11:53]  * tjaalton doesn't multitask too well ;)
[11:56] <tjaalton> zsh should tab-complete 'debsign -k...'
[11:57] <james_w> you can set DEBSIGN_KEYID
[11:57] <james_w> obviously doesn't help if you have multiple keys though
[12:01] <tjaalton> hmm, fails
[12:01] <tjaalton> doing something wrong
[12:04] <james_w> DEBSIGN_KEYID fails?
[12:04] <james_w> it's a devscripts option, not an env var
[12:05] <james_w> took me ages to work that one out
[12:05] <james_w> % cat ~/.devscripts 
[12:05] <james_w> DEBSIGN_KEYID=B577FE13
[12:05] <tjaalton> argh
[12:05] <tjaalton> :)
[12:05] <james_w> sorry :-)
[12:06] <tjaalton> don't be, this is useful :)
[12:06] <tjaalton> I had that file already with stuff on it
[12:06] <tjaalton> but didn't remember it
[12:13] <tjaalton> tseliot: uploaded
[12:13] <tseliot> tjaalton: thanks again
[12:14] <tjaalton> oh hmm, forgot the freeze
[13:03] <tjaalton> Sarvatt: btw, I don't have hal-acl-tools installed, nor can I find it
[13:16] <Sarvatt> /usr/lib/hal/hal-acl-tool
[13:17] <Sarvatt> i was hoping it would be something like this bug since its strange every time its happened has been when i was using sudo or gksudo for something, but it isnt  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/361223
[13:19] <Sarvatt> dont have time to try to narrow it down anymore today, at least it goes long enough without happening rebooting isnt that much of a hassle :D
[13:20] <tjaalton> right, there it is
[13:20] <tjaalton> was looking for hal-acl-toolS
[22:43] <mnemo> bryce: fyi.. I changed the description for the intel freeze test so it recommends .30-rc5 instead of .30-rc2
[22:43] <bryce> mnemo: alright, thanks
[23:15] <mnemo> bryce: to facilitate LTS -> LTS upgrades, will it be necessary to fix and SRU all bugs that make X unbootable for intrepid and jaunty? I mean even for stuff like openchrome etc ? I guess so right?
[23:16] <mnemo> or does it skip right to the new LTS packages?