| dasKreech | Mamarok: ping | 00:33 |
|---|---|---|
| dasKreech | kb9vqf: ping | 00:33 |
| kb9vqf | daskreech: pong | 00:33 |
| dasKreech | how are you? | 00:34 |
| kb9vqf | Doing OK | 00:34 |
| * kb9vqf is sorta on vacation.... | 00:34 | |
| dasKreech | Sorta? | 00:35 |
| kb9vqf | Well, on vacation from work, but still doing work-related things. Yuck. | 00:35 |
| dasKreech | astromme: Ping | 00:35 |
| dasKreech | Wonderful isn't it? | 00:35 |
| kb9vqf | :) | 00:35 |
| astromme | dasKreech: pong | 00:35 |
| dasKreech | astromme: How much Mem does nepomuk normally consume for you? | 00:36 |
| dasKreech | kb9vqf: Hows your server been holding up? | 00:36 |
| kb9vqf | Pretty good now; the downloads have trailed off a bit | 00:36 |
| kb9vqf | 4000+ downloads of the final version! | 00:36 |
| dasKreech | Ugh Ok never mind that's bad astromme | 00:37 |
| astromme | dasKreech: Right now I'm at 300 MB for it | 00:37 |
| astromme | ? | 00:37 |
| dasKreech | My friend just came back in from work and messaged me. Nepomuk is using up 430 MB of RAM | 00:37 |
| astromme | I should say... NepomukServicesStub is using 300 | 00:37 |
| astromme | And iirc that is strigi | 00:37 |
| astromme | not nepomuk | 00:38 |
| dasKreech | He's indexing two folders with 550 MB of data | 00:38 |
| dasKreech | That's pretty horrible | 00:38 |
| astromme | I'm indexing thousands with 100GB of data | 00:38 |
| astromme | including the entire kde source tree | 00:38 |
| astromme | and many films/photos | 00:38 |
| dasKreech | Yeah which is why I said it's horrible | 00:38 |
| astromme | Hmm, I don't consider it to be that horrible | 00:39 |
| astromme | and I think it's in the strigi component honestly | 00:39 |
| dasKreech | copying the things that you need to index into the RAM kinda sucks :) | 00:40 |
| astromme | dasKreech: I don't know/think it's doing it. /shrug I'm not an expert by any means, so maybe I shouldn't be speculating. Ask around in #nepomuk-kde | 00:41 |
| dasKreech | Man that place is so cold and dark :-( | 00:41 |
| Riddell | why oh why does kdelibs-experimental have a low build score | 00:43 |
| JontheEchidna | It's newness, perhaps? | 00:43 |
| dasKreech | Didn't study? | 00:43 |
| Riddell | rgreening: oh you fixed the kshisen icons? | 00:43 |
| rgreening | :) | 00:44 |
| Riddell | lovely, uploading | 00:44 |
| rgreening | did you remove the ~ppa1 from it i don't remember if I did that in bzr | 00:45 |
| Riddell | doesn't seem to be it in bzr | 00:45 |
| rgreening | ok, I must have done that one. however kdegraphics is showing ~ppa1 | 00:48 |
| rgreening | :) | 00:48 |
| rgreening | I was waiting for the build to complete in PPA and then update bzr. | 00:48 |
| rgreening | you'll have to update the one promoted to main | 00:49 |
| rgreening | Riddell: ^ | 00:49 |
| rgreening | Riddell: did you upload kdebase as well? bzr would still be ~ppa1 for it as well. | 00:51 |
| Riddell | didn't you say that needed kdebase-workspace? | 00:51 |
| Riddell | which is still waiting on qzion/qedje | 00:52 |
| nixternal | ~twitter status | 00:53 |
| kubotu | Make WebKit default in Konqueror: keditfiletype text/html - select embedded tab - move webkit part to the top - only works on trunk (35 seconds ago via choqoK) | 00:53 |
| nixternal | nice | 00:53 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: actually it failed due to the lack of libknotificationitem-dev | 00:53 |
| JontheEchidna | (workspace) | 00:53 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: that too | 00:53 |
| Riddell | nixternal: ? what's that from? | 00:53 |
| JontheEchidna | ok, just making sure you were aware :) | 00:53 |
| rgreening | Riddell: I just updated bzr for kdegraphics. TO remove the ~ppa1. | 00:54 |
| dasKreech | kb9vqf: Did you try the Ibex -> Jackalope upgrade ? | 00:55 |
| JontheEchidna | I've started on jaunty backports btw | 00:55 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: excellent | 00:55 |
| nixternal | Riddell: that is my last tweet | 00:55 |
| dasKreech | ~twitter status | 00:56 |
| kubotu | you should specify the username of the twitter touse, or identify using 'twitter identify [username] [password]' | 00:56 |
| Riddell | there's 450 items in new queue! | 00:56 |
| rgreening | Riddell: I just updated bzr for kdebase. To remove the ~ppa1. | 00:56 |
| dasKreech | ~identica | 00:56 |
| dasKreech | :-P | 00:56 |
| Riddell | time to sleep, keep packaging hard dudes! | 00:58 |
| JontheEchidna | oh-kay! | 00:58 |
| nixternal | is 4.3 b1 going into a jaunty ppa? it is the #1 question on the intertubes I am seeing | 00:58 |
| nixternal | can I be of some assistance? | 00:59 |
| rgreening | nixternal: yeah. grab something from the cave.. toys, plasma addons, etc | 01:00 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah, we're going to backport it | 01:00 |
| * astromme chuckles | 01:00 | |
| * astromme goes back to fixing a huge bug in his rtm plasmoid. Whoops, dates do not change magically. | 01:01 | |
| * rgreening attempts to finish kdenetwork. | 01:01 | |
| nixternal | I hate this damn cave | 01:01 |
| dasKreech | astromme: Actaully I find they do over time | 01:01 |
| astromme | lol! | 01:02 |
| astromme | well, at least not when I set them to be "today" as a hard date | 01:02 |
| dasKreech | :-) | 01:02 |
| nixternal | it used to be so much easier to contribute to Kubuntu before this silly bat cave, batty scripts, and hidden communications...it is actually very irritating | 01:03 |
| dasKreech | Holy protocol batman! | 01:04 |
| rgreening | nixternal: you don't need to use the scripts. Riddell doesn't. He's strickly all by hand :) | 01:05 |
| nixternal | right, but everything is hidden | 01:05 |
| nixternal | well, I guess for others they are, not for me, I keep forgetting I have access to the kde stuff | 01:06 |
| rgreening | nixternal: only becuse we have advance access... otherwise it wouldn't be :) | 01:06 |
| rgreening | lol | 01:06 |
| nixternal | well... | 01:07 |
| * astromme thinks that while it's currently the best we have out there, the debian .deb model is just so yucky and tangled an unneeded | 01:11 | |
| kb9vqf | daskreech: I did my usual apt-get dist-upgrade on several systems with no problems... | 01:11 |
| kb9vqf | But I haven't tried the GUI method yet | 01:11 |
| dasKreech | ok | 01:11 |
| nixternal | astromme: ? it is the same "yucky and tangled and unneeded" model that we use...scripts and hidden stuff doesn't change that | 01:12 |
| * astromme is also someone who doesn't do packagaing on a regular basis, so take my word with a grain of salt | 01:12 | |
| nixternal | to late :p | 01:12 |
| astromme | I don't know... I've done a small amount of gentoo packaging, a small amount of archlinux packaing, a small amount of debian packaging | 01:13 |
| astromme | I was never able to wrap my mind around the debian packagaing. Maybe it was because of all the scripts that did stuff 'for me' | 01:13 |
| astromme | maybe it was because of all of the little files that seemed to be needed | 01:14 |
| astromme | maybe it was because of all of the little magic incantations and buildscripts needed to just build a package. | 01:14 |
| astromme | I dunno | 01:14 |
| astromme | Maybe it was me exhibiting a major fail | 01:14 |
| * rgreening thinks nixternal needs a hug | 01:17 | |
| rgreening | haha | 01:17 |
| dasKreech | astromme: Another anity check how big is the $KDEHOME nepomuk directory ? | 01:20 |
| astromme | dasKreech: iirc 1GB. lemmy check | 01:21 |
| dasKreech | Ok his is 4GB to index 550 MBs | 01:21 |
| dasKreech | and associated metadata I suspect | 01:21 |
| dasKreech | and I gues some overhead | 01:21 |
| astromme | yeah, looks to be 1% | 01:21 |
| astromme | which is reasonable I think | 01:21 |
| astromme | considering that a heck of a lot is indexed | 01:22 |
| ryanakca | nixternal: ping, help.kubuntu.org , did you rerun your script? | 01:23 |
| * JontheEchidna realized that kdewebdev was in universe and uploaded | 01:35 | |
| rgreening | lol | 01:37 |
| JontheEchidna | once kdelibs and kdelibs-experimental is done, we should be free to backport the first layer of the stack | 01:39 |
| rgreening | Im close to finishing kdenetwork. Lot's of new files added... lots of chnages to integrate. | 01:40 |
| JontheEchidna | are you going to go for the record of longest debian/changelog entry with this one? :P | 01:41 |
| rgreening | JontheEchidna: check out kdegraphics and kdegames :) | 01:48 |
| rgreening | Maybe I should shorten them up. | 01:48 |
| rgreening | lol | 01:48 |
| JontheEchidna | I usually just stick with: -Updated various .install files | 01:48 |
| JontheEchidna | lol | 01:49 |
| rgreening | I put everything in so I don't miss something if I have to start over for some reason | 01:49 |
| rgreening | mayhap I'll shorten network | 01:49 |
| rgreening | heh | 01:49 |
| * astromme hugs nixternal. There, now he has his hug :) | 02:05 | |
| * JontheEchidna testbuilds accessibility for a list-missing run | 02:14 | |
| nixternal | ryanakca: I was just supposed to add that header stuff right? | 02:30 |
| ryanakca | nixternal: and a blob at the bottom of <body> | 02:30 |
| ryanakca | nixternal: http://pastebin.ca/1412859 | 02:30 |
| nixternal | right...ya, I still need to do that, though I will probably just do a manual copy/paste on it, with what I have in the repos already | 02:31 |
| ryanakca | nixternal: Woah, how long would that take you, half an hour? | 02:31 |
| nixternal | probably not even that long | 02:32 |
| nixternal | well ya, probably that long | 02:32 |
| nixternal | it would take just as long to write up a script to do the same thing | 02:32 |
| ryanakca | *nod*, but writing a script is way more fun :) Anyways, no rush anymore I guess, it'll probably take half a year to get it reviewed by the sysadmins once we get it done anyways | 02:33 |
| nixternal | lol | 02:33 |
| * ScottK wields photorec (again) to save his wife's photos. | 03:31 | |
| dasKreech | Ha ha What she have? | 03:34 |
| ScottK | In this case an SD Card that an app promised to move the pics off of. | 03:45 |
| ScottK | Said app did the remove pics from the SD Card part fine. The make them appear on her hard drive part, not so much | 03:46 |
| dasKreech | Ow | 03:55 |
| ScottK | In any case recphoto gets my cold dead fingers award. | 04:08 |
| dasKreech | Seems like a specific kinda tool | 04:09 |
| ScottK | It is and if you have that particular problem it's a very easy, very good tool to get it done. | 04:18 |
| ScottK | This is the third time in the last two months (that SD Card is now headed for the trash). | 04:19 |
| dasKreech | Ha ha ha | 04:22 |
| dasKreech | but didn't it remove correctly? | 04:22 |
| dasKreech | Sounds like the Hard drive is the culprit framingi t | 04:22 |
| dasKreech | framing it | 04:22 |
| ScottK | This was the only time it was during a move. The other times they just 'vanished' without even being in the computer. | 04:24 |
| dasKreech | ugh | 04:26 |
| ScottK | Yep. Thus the trash can plan. | 04:31 |
| dasKreech | Yeah | 04:32 |
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| Mamarok | dasKreech: pong | 07:42 |
| dasKreech | Hi Mamarok how are you? | 07:53 |
| Mamarok | hi dasKreech | 07:55 |
| Mamarok | fine, and you? | 07:55 |
| dasKreech | Not bad I'm sneezing like crazy | 07:55 |
| Mamarok | hay fever? | 07:55 |
| dasKreech | Don't know | 07:59 |
| dasKreech | It's been raining so I guess it's triggering something | 07:59 |
| dasKreech | I was asking you what the size of your $KDEHOME nepomuk directory was | 08:00 |
| Mamarok | hm, not hay fever then, that calms down when it's raining | 08:00 |
| Mamarok | the store size is 8 Gb now | 08:01 |
| Mamarok | but still indexing | 08:01 |
| dasKreech | ok that's 500 GB of data right? | 08:01 |
| Mamarok | roughly, yes | 08:02 |
| Mamarok | I excluded the / folders ecept for /etc and /var | 08:02 |
| Mamarok | I have years of mail in kmail, that for sure is a lot of stuff to index | 08:03 |
| Mamarok | all my university stuff, ptofessionnal school teacher stuff of 18 years and my music collection | 08:03 |
| Mamarok | but it runs nicely in the background | 08:03 |
| dasKreech | ok | 08:03 |
| dasKreech | Hmm | 08:03 |
| dasKreech | my firend was indexing 550 MB and eneded up with about a 4GB database | 08:04 |
| dasKreech | friend | 08:04 |
| Mamarok | I think it depends on the amont of files | 08:04 |
| Mamarok | if it's 500 Gb with mostly movies, that will not make a big index necessarily | 08:04 |
| Mamarok | and the amount of tags, where my music collection brings a lot of data too | 08:05 |
| Mamarok | mostly classical, fully tagged | 08:05 |
| dasKreech | With composers? | 08:05 |
| Mamarok | of course :) | 08:06 |
| dasKreech | Least used slot on music metadata | 08:06 |
| Mamarok | oh, I use it extensively | 08:06 |
| Mamarok | my main search criteria in the collection, besides the artist | 08:06 |
| dasKreech | I miss my hard drive :( | 08:23 |
| a|wen | you lost your HDD? | 08:24 |
| * a|wen misses having a larger hard drive ... the last 20Gb did make a difference | 08:27 | |
| * Mamarok has an external HDD for storing, very useful | 08:28 | |
| a|wen | heh, my 160 gig external drive is also very important for making the space calculation come out positive | 08:32 |
| dasKreech | Yep | 08:45 |
| dasKreech | 230 GB of data gone | 08:45 |
| dasKreech | like 100 GB of MUsic | 08:45 |
| a|wen | that is pretty sad ... and the backup was not as good as you could wish...? | 08:47 |
| Riddell | morning | 08:50 |
| dasKreech | The backup died two days after | 08:50 |
| a|wen | morning Riddell | 08:50 |
| a|wen | dasKreech: urgh ... no fun | 08:51 |
| dasKreech | Tell me about it | 08:51 |
| dasKreech | I'm on a 4 GB drive now running GNome | 08:51 |
| a|wen | oh my, then it is indeed bad | 08:52 |
| dasKreech | Yep | 08:53 |
| a|wen | i have been jumping back to dapper on an old lappy ~ a year ago ... but still not as bad as that :P | 08:54 |
| Riddell | bother, kdelibs-experiminetal still hasn't compiled | 09:05 |
| dasKreech | taking long or there are problems? | 09:07 |
| Riddell | just taking ages | 09:08 |
| dasKreech | How fast is the computer? | 09:08 |
| Riddell | it's the buildds, just means they're building other stuff | 09:08 |
| Riddell | new queue hsa exploded from 450 items to 1200 items so they've been busy overnight | 09:09 |
| dasKreech | You would think with all the back and forth between Canonical and Amazon they would have a cloud build machine | 09:09 |
| dasKreech | Where are you in the Queue? | 09:09 |
| Riddell | no idea | 09:11 |
| dasKreech | Riddell: What would you include on the Cd for a better first time boot experience if you could ? | 09:14 |
| Riddell | dunno, we have most of what I want | 09:16 |
| Riddell | I usually install krita at some point | 09:17 |
| yao_ziyuan | my update-notifier-kde is using 45% CPU and 73MB memory and is not notifying me of new updates (while there are updates)! | 09:29 |
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| Nightrose | users are starting to ask for amarok 2.1 beta 2 packages for kubuntu :/ | 10:08 |
| Nightrose | any news on that? | 10:08 |
| Riddell | a|wen: how's n-m-plasmoid doing? I havn't looked at it recently I'm afraid but we should get it into backports at least | 10:30 |
| freinhard | which was the command that built a package in a chroot installing all needed build-depends there and not on my system? | 10:30 |
| Riddell | Nightrose: was someone tasked to do it? did I see JontheEchidna was looking at it? | 10:30 |
| Riddell | freinhard: pbuilder ? | 10:30 |
| Riddell | freinhard: pbuilder for a non interactive chroot (sudo pbuilder create; sudo pbuilder build foo.dsc) | 10:31 |
| Riddell | debootstrap for a chroot you can use yourself (debootstrap karmic my-karmic-chroot; chroot my-karmic-chroot; do whatever you like) | 10:31 |
| freinhard | Riddell: tried that yesterda, but can't remember why it didn't work. i gues it was just to late ;) | 10:31 |
| freinhard | or maybe i missed some errors. (no idea how to scroll back on a virtualbox commandline) | 10:32 |
| Nightrose | Riddell: yes he tried to package it but it crashed on startup due to a mysql problem | 10:36 |
| Nightrose | Riddell: nw-applet worked ok for me on two wired connections and one wireless unencrypted one | 10:36 |
| Nightrose | only problem: you can't disconnect | 10:36 |
| Nightrose | it automatically reconnects | 10:36 |
| Nightrose | known bug | 10:37 |
| freeflying | firephoto: you may try mk-sbuild-lv | 10:38 |
| a|wen | Riddell: seems mor than good; not muvh feedback, but what i got was very positive | 11:54 |
| a|wen | Riddell: both wpa2 as well as hidden networks was fixed ... dunno how many have tested it, but nobody has complayned | 11:55 |
| Wiskeybottel_ | ola | 11:56 |
| Wiskeybottel_ | hey somewhere her | 11:57 |
| Wiskeybottel_ | mhhhh ok so i look in a other one | 11:57 |
| Riddell | a|wen: that shoulds good | 12:06 |
| Riddell | ? | 12:06 |
| Riddell | a|wen: that sounds good | 12:06 |
| a|wen | Riddell: indeed it does ... i'm inclined to go for -proposed, but don't know if anyone else wants to give it a test as well (or already have, just without telling) | 12:07 |
| Riddell | a|wen: also i haven't been able to recreate that problem I had the first time I tried it | 12:08 |
| Riddell | the multiple repeated access points one | 12:08 |
| a|wen | okay, hard to know if it was the applet, or n-m itselv playing a game with us; but at least it doesn't look to be a common problem | 12:09 |
| fregl | networkmanager is still in a very rough state - resizing problems, sometimes connections are added more than once to the kcm, hidden is only fixed to sometimes work but not reliably... | 12:10 |
| a|wen | fregl: anything that has become worse compared to the version released with jaunty | 12:11 |
| fregl | a|wen: no, since then it should have improved :) | 12:12 |
| a|wen | fregl: we have a version op for test in the experimental PPA, and we are talking about improvements in that version ... go test, if you have time :) | 12:13 |
| fregl | a few minor bugs have been fixed, and having hidden work sometimes is better than not at all ;) | 12:13 |
| fregl | a|wen: I'm running the trunk version, but I'd be interested in nm-plasma feedback | 12:14 |
| a|wen | fregl: ahh :) ... yeah; especially wpa2 + hidden is interesting | 12:15 |
| fregl | so it's good to hear that it has improved in your opinion :) | 12:15 |
| fregl | I'll have to set up a wpa2 here, just got a router that can handle it a few days ago... wish I had more time | 12:15 |
| a|wen | heh, personally my only computer with the plasmoid on is working as a stationary ... so can't test it much | 12:16 |
| a|wen | but vpn doesn't seem to work, which is my sole use-case atm. | 12:16 |
| fregl | I have no clue about vpn at all - my goal is to first get wifi into an acceptable state | 12:17 |
| fregl | but Will probably could tell you more about vpn | 12:17 |
| fregl | I don't even know if it should work | 12:17 |
| a|wen | fregl: all fields on the option page is disabled ... and there is no way of enabling them; so i guess not ;) | 12:18 |
| fregl | hehe | 12:18 |
| a|wen | Riddell: but what do you think; should we give it a try? ... have you tested the newest version yourself, btw? | 12:19 |
| fregl | a|wen: have you tried in the kcm? manage connections would let me add a vpn and fill out the details | 12:20 |
| * sebas would be surprised if a current snapshot is worse than the one in jaunty | 12:20 | |
| sebas | We've focused exclusively on making it work, and quite some nasty important cases have been fixed | 12:20 |
| fregl | moin sebas | 12:21 |
| a|wen | fregl: also under "optional information"? | 12:21 |
| sebas | hey fregl | 12:21 |
| a|wen | hi sebas ... it does indeed look good, according to those that i've heard from | 12:21 |
| fregl | yes, but it's still a moving target, I would not want to rely on the applet at this point | 12:22 |
| * sebas agrees with fregl there, it's clearly not done | 12:22 | |
| fregl | a|wen: oh, some combo boxes and lineedits are disabled | 12:22 |
| a|wen | fregl: well, tha case i investigates is "do you want to rely on the applet as of a week ago, or as it was in march" | 12:22 |
| a|wen | fregl: exactly ;) ... and they seem utterly important to those that want to use vpn, he | 12:23 |
| fregl | a|wen: I agree with both ;) | 12:24 |
| a|wen | :) | 12:24 |
| fregl | <wstephenson> fregl: openvpn works, vpnc needs more work | 12:24 |
| a|wen | that is 50% :) | 12:25 |
| * a|wen ponders making everything ready for uploading current snapshot to proposed tonight ... and then having off | 12:26 | |
| a|wen | 2½ weeks of holidays coming up :) | 12:26 |
| seele | ~twitter update COFFEE | 12:26 |
| kubotu | status updated | 12:26 |
| a|wen | seele: thanks ... i suppose it was for us :) | 12:28 |
| seele | ~order coffee a|wen | 12:29 |
| * kubotu slides coffee a|wen down the bar to seele | 12:29 | |
| seele | ack | 12:29 |
| seele | ~order help | 12:29 |
| * kubotu slides help down the bar to seele | 12:29 | |
| * seele sighs | 12:30 | |
| a|wen | thx ... i'm still on my first cup for today; way behind | 12:30 |
| a|wen | ~help order | 12:30 |
| kubotu | You may also have a look at 'help order goods/machines/replies' ... Placing an order is actually easy as hell. 'order GOOD' => GOOD gets slid down the bar. 'order GOOD for NICK' => GOOD get slid down the bar to NICK. 'order GOOD for everyone' => everyone gets GOOD (in case the good is finite it will end as you place this order). 'order birthday package' => in case you want to make a special birthday present ;-) | 12:30 |
| seele | ah hah | 12:30 |
| a|wen | ~order extra coffee for seele | 12:30 |
| * kubotu slides extra coffee down the bar to seele | 12:30 | |
| a|wen | :) | 12:31 |
| Riddell | a|wen: is there a bug we're using to track plasmoid-n-m brokenness? | 12:31 |
| a|wen | Riddell: no bug yet ... we could grab one about hidden networks or wpa2 and hijack that one; or make a new | 12:32 |
| Riddell | mm, I'm not sure what's best, I'll ask pitti anyway | 12:33 |
| a|wen | Riddell: the tracking was supposed to be done here: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/PlasmaWidgetNetworkManager/0.0+svn966653-0ubuntu1~ppa1 ... Lure gave positive results, but haven't reported yet, i can see | 12:33 |
| a|wen | Riddell: i'll remove the temporary modifications (making a -dbg package for useful stacktraces) from that one and upload a clean source for someone to take over | 12:35 |
| fregl | interesting page :) I'd suggest changing the "Broken" column to "Works" - confused me quite a bit | 12:42 |
| a|wen | fregl: it is a test if people are awake while testing :P ... and in any case i'll just blame (eh, credit) everything on apachelogger ;) | 12:44 |
| fregl | hehe | 12:44 |
| fregl | seems like Nightrose didn't spot that either... | 12:44 |
| Nightrose | ? | 12:45 |
| * fregl give Nightrose a cookie | 12:45 | |
| Nightrose | broken -> No = works fine | 12:45 |
| Nightrose | ;-) | 12:45 |
| * Nightrose munches the cookie | 12:45 | |
| fregl | yeah, but quite a bit of math to do there ;) too hard for my simple mind | 12:45 |
| Nightrose | how am i supposed to read it? | 12:45 |
| Nightrose | haha | 12:45 |
| Nightrose | ok | 12:45 |
| a|wen | Nightrose: you are completely right :) | 12:45 |
| * Nightrose pats fregl | 12:45 | |
| * a|wen gives fregl a cookie | 12:46 | |
| fregl | :D | 12:46 |
| fregl | food :) | 12:46 |
| * a|wen is leaving for dinner in 5 minutes :) | 12:47 | |
| Nightrose | fregl: yay! going to see star trek on tuesday with Frank and Bati \o/ | 12:48 |
| fregl | hehe | 12:48 |
| fregl | Nightrose: good! in English? | 12:48 |
| Nightrose | don't think so | 12:49 |
| fregl | a|wen: are you using openvpn or vpnc? | 12:56 |
| Quintasan | hiho | 13:01 |
| Riddell | a|wen: pitti seems ok to getting p-w-n-m into -proposed so let me know when you have something that's good to upload | 13:07 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee's awake! | 13:25 |
| Sput | Nightrose: you should go see it in english | 13:25 |
| Sput | Nightrose: it's being shown in the Schauburg | 13:26 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: could you up the build priority of kdelibs-experimental on amd64, it hasn't compiled overnight and it's blocking everything KDEish | 13:26 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: indeed! | 13:26 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: it being 10.26pm my time, this is quite likely | 13:26 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: jaunty, i assume? | 13:26 |
| Hobbsee | hrm, not jaunty | 13:27 |
| Riddell | karmic | 13:27 |
| Hobbsee | i'm a release behind - this is terrible! | 13:27 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: estimated start: 1 minute | 13:28 |
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| ScottK | New plan .... | 13:30 |
| ScottK | We're going to upload KDE 4.2.3 to jaunty-backports for now. | 13:30 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: Did we ever get the RSS plasma thing regression sorted out? | 13:31 |
| JontheEchidna | Not that I'm aware of. | 13:34 |
| ScottK | Well that makes 4.2.3 unsuitable for -updates in any case. | 13:35 |
| JontheEchidna | One user said downgrading to Qt 4.5.0 fixed it, but it was originally reported by a Qt 4.5.0 user | 13:37 |
| ScottK | Then we'd need to get that sort for sure before we could do -updates. | 13:46 |
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| mickru | hi, I try to profile an application requiring root access with valgrind | 15:57 |
| mickru | I open a root shell with sudo su, then run my app with: valgrind --tool=callgrind <myapp> | 15:58 |
| mickru | when the app terminates, I get the error that profiling data could not be writen to the file. The file is then empty. | 15:59 |
| mickru | any idea? | 15:59 |
| mickru | is it possible to profile app's with root rights this way? | 15:59 |
| quassel208 | how is status on kde4.3 beta for kubuntu ? | 16:08 |
| ScottK | "In progress" | 16:11 |
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| JontheEchidna | Could somebody bump the build score of kdelibs-experimental in: https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/experimental please? | 16:58 |
| JontheEchidna | Hobbsee, NCommander^? | 16:58 |
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| Riddell | sebas: we're roomies! | 18:57 |
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| a|wen | Riddell: ping | 19:35 |
| seele | hmm.. anyone else have time remaining reported twice in the PM widget? | 19:36 |
| a|wen | ahh, he is not there ... one should complete backlog reading before speaking | 19:38 |
| Riddell | hi a|wen | 19:38 |
| a|wen | Riddell: :) | 19:39 |
| Riddell | quick quick I'm about to go | 19:39 |
| a|wen | we want the new snapshot in karmic first; or it should be good? | 19:39 |
| Riddell | snapshot of what? in karmic first before what? | 19:39 |
| a|wen | n-m plasma | 19:40 |
| ScottK | Riddell: jaunty-proposed | 19:40 |
| Riddell | both really | 19:40 |
| ScottK | a|wen: I can sponsor it to Karmic | 19:40 |
| a|wen | ScottK: cool ... and getting it into jaunty-proposed? | 19:41 |
| ScottK | First things first. | 19:42 |
| ScottK | For Jaunty proposed we need to make sure you have a good bug with a proper test case. | 19:42 |
| ScottK | Really off to schlep kids now ... | 19:43 |
| a|wen | we have "make any wpa2 network work", and "connect to network with hidden SSID" | 19:53 |
| a|wen | was anybody in the process of packaging amarok 2.1 beta2 ? | 19:56 |
| a|wen | JontheEchidna: ? ^^ | 19:56 |
| JontheEchidna | never got it to work | 19:56 |
| JontheEchidna | what I have is in my ppa if anyone want to take a shot at it | 19:56 |
| a|wen | okay ... leaving for 3 weeks in a matter of hours, so no volunteering here | 19:57 |
| a|wen | but https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=184714 has been fixed ... might be worth getting into jaunty as well | 19:57 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 184714 in Playlist "Playlist turns invisible sometimes with Qt 4 5" [Major,Resolved: fixed] | 19:58 |
| a|wen | JontheEchidna: :) | 19:58 |
| sebas | Riddell: ah, very cool :) | 20:07 |
| sebas | cuddling and stuff! | 20:07 |
| _Sime | yeek! | 20:09 |
| * sebas is afk again | 20:11 | |
| lukefeil | JontheEchidna: hi | 20:55 |
| lukefeil | JontheEchidna: kümmerst du dich um die das repo-paket "qt-creator" unter jaunty? | 20:55 |
| ScottK | lukefeil: In English please. | 20:56 |
| JontheEchidna | sorry, I don't speak German :( | 20:56 |
| lukefeil | JontheEchidna: ok | 20:56 |
| lukefeil | JontheEchidna: do you manage the package "qt-creator" for jaunty? | 20:57 |
| JontheEchidna | I don't think I've done any work with that package, but you may be thinking of Jonathan Riddell | 20:57 |
| ScottK | Who is offline for the next week. | 20:58 |
| lukefeil | oh | 20:58 |
| lukefeil | the dependencies are defect | 20:59 |
| lukefeil | from the package qt-creator | 20:59 |
| JontheEchidna | in what way? | 21:01 |
| ScottK | lukefeil: Where did you get this package? From a PPA? | 21:01 |
| * a|wen raises his hand and looks at ScottK | 21:01 | |
| ScottK | a|wen: Yes? | 21:02 |
| a|wen | offline for the next week | 21:02 |
| ScottK | OK | 21:03 |
| lukefeil | ScottK: i don't know the source but i have no PP in my sources.list | 21:03 |
| lukefeil | *PPA | 21:03 |
| ScottK | lukefeil: OK. What is the problem? | 21:03 |
| ScottK | a|wen: What do you need uploaded? | 21:03 |
| a|wen | ScottK: http://awen.dk/packages/pwnm/ <-- package for karmic; and an equivalent for jaunty-proposed | 21:03 |
| * ScottK looks | 21:03 | |
| lukefeil | ScottK: in the dependencies for the qt-creator are'nt the libqt4-cor libqt4-dev qt4-designer,... | 21:04 |
| lukefeil | ScottK: after the installation he said that i've no qmake | 21:05 |
| lukefeil | ScottK: i installed these packages bye myself | 21:05 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: Do you know anything about qt-creator? | 21:05 |
| ScottK | lukefeil: Then it worked? | 21:05 |
| lukefeil | ScottK: after i installed qt4 yes | 21:06 |
| JontheEchidna | The dependencies look ok for me: http://paste.ubuntu.com/173223/ | 21:07 |
| ScottK | a|wen: Minor point: That's backports versioning for SRU ubuntu1.1 would be preferred. I'll fix it. | 21:07 |
| a|wen | ScottK: if you change it to ubuntu0.1 then okay | 21:07 |
| xisde | hi... today i've installed karmic into my desktop and after apt-get update & upgrade, my kde is broken. the taskbar, wallpaper, menus... what happened? sorry for my poor english. | 21:08 |
| ScottK | Right 0.1 | 21:08 |
| JontheEchidna | xisde: you installed alpha software is what happened | 21:08 |
| JontheEchidna | in the middle of a KDE upgrade | 21:08 |
| seele | ScottK: i would call alpha 0.0.1 :) | 21:08 |
| a|wen | ScottK: i know ... after our backport-versioning in -proposed for kde it's not always easy to be sure | 21:08 |
| ScottK | xisde: We are currently in the middle of updating from KDE 4.2 to 4.3beta. It being broken is no suprised. | 21:08 |
| ScottK | a|wen: It's not a hard rule. | 21:09 |
| a|wen | i thought so ;) ... you just choose the one you like the most | 21:09 |
| xisde | uhh... ok... thanks ^^ i'm trying to contribute to ubuntu/kubuntu. | 21:09 |
| ScottK | xisde: Karmic is likely to be broken off and on several times before release. It isn't essential to be running the development release to contribute. | 21:10 |
| * ScottK isn't. | 21:10 | |
| * JontheEchidna isn't running karmic yet either | 21:10 | |
| ScottK | a|wen: 330811 needs a test case. | 21:10 |
| xisde | in the jaunty alpha 5, 6 and beta, i've reported bugs in ubuntu, now i try to report bugs... i think so it's a way to contribute to developers. | 21:12 |
| * a|wen looks at test-casing | 21:12 | |
| ScottK | a|wen: 334052 too (one test case in one of the bugs for both bugs and a cross reference is preferred) | 21:13 |
| a|wen | ScottK: haven't gotten to that yet ... i'm desperately trying to get my packing done in time as well :) | 21:13 |
| ScottK | OK. | 21:13 |
| a|wen | ScottK: 330811 updated | 21:19 |
| ScottK | a|wen: Karmic uploaded. Looking at Jaunty now. | 21:32 |
| a|wen | thx a lot | 21:33 |
| ScottK | a|wen: NM widget heaved at Jaunty too. | 22:01 |
| ScottK | I also installed it and it works here. | 22:01 |
| a|wen | great :) | 22:01 |
| a|wen | I kind of count on the rest of you looking into testing it ;) | 22:01 |
| ScottK | One of those days I'm glad I'm at home and not on hotel internet. I just uploaded something with -sa by accident and the tarball is 8Mb. Faster to just let it go than stop it and retry | 22:02 |
| a|wen | he ... looking forward to getting back to some decent internet as well | 22:06 |
| xisde | in brazil i have a 300kbps network link... so slow... =/ | 22:10 |
| a|wen | xisde: 256kbps here... | 22:11 |
| xisde | a|wen: o.o | 22:12 |
| xisde | a|wen: brazilian? | 22:13 |
| a|wen | xisde: danish ... but currently located in thailand | 22:13 |
| * a|wen waves to everyone ... see you all in ~3 weeks | 22:22 | |
| nixternal | jeesh, waiting for Linux.com to fix my articles link already | 22:31 |
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