[00:32] <nhandler> Did they get rid of whiteboards for bzr branches?
[00:38] <jml> they did.
[00:39] <nhandler> Thanks jml
[00:42] <wgrant> jml: They're being reincarnated as descriptions soon, aren't they?
[00:43] <jml> that's right.
[00:43] <jml> you'll need write permissions on the branch to edit the descriptions.
[00:43] <jml> so in that way they won't be like whiteboards.
[00:44] <nhandler> Well, that seems logical enough to me
[00:44] <wgrant> Ah.
[00:44] <wgrant> It does.
[00:46] <nhandler> Is there any estimate about when this feature will be implemented wgrant ?
[00:47] <wgrant> nhandler: I'm no LP person.
[00:48] <wgrant> The bug is also not milestoned.
[00:48] <wgrant> So I have no idea.
[00:50] <nhandler> wgrant: That first statement isn't 100% true. You are an LP liason ;)
[00:51] <spm> wgrant: pls to be closing your mouth after nhandler's comment - you'll start catching flies! :-P
[00:52] <wgrant> nhandler: True, true...
[00:53] <mwhudson> i think, "fairly soon"
[00:53] <mwhudson> but allhands and uds are going to mess all this up, of course
[00:55] <wgrant> Is AllHands immediately after UDS?
[00:56] <spm> before
[00:56] <wgrant> Oh.
[00:58] <ajmitch> I heard it starts next week or so
[00:58] <ajmitch> so there'll be less (sober) people around to bug about stuff
[01:25]  * wgrant wonders if the ignore subscription feature might be increasing in priority soon
[01:27] <spm> wgrant: that's what dev/null and procmail were invented for ;-)
[01:27] <wgrant> spm: It is, but apparently some people won't use those...
[01:40] <ojwb> hi - i had a PPA build fail on hardy because it has a build-dep on debhelper 7, so I enabled hardy-backports and retried, but now it has a build score of 0 and is estimating 4 days to start building.  The retry page said I could request the priority to be raised - is this the place to ask?
[01:51] <wgrant> ojwb: It's the right place, but I'm not sure anybody relevant is around.
[01:51] <wgrant> Unless spm can do it.
[01:52] <spm> I can
[01:52] <spm> ojwb: link?
[01:52] <wgrant> ojwb: There's a bug at the moment which means a test rebuild of the Ubuntu archive is taking priority over retries.
[01:54] <ojwb> spm: https://launchpad.net/~xapian-backports/+archive/ppa
[01:55] <ojwb> libsearch-xapian-perl - 1.0.12.0-1.99hardy  for amd64 and i386
[01:55] <ajmitch> ojwb: hello
[01:55] <ojwb> hi ajmitch
[01:56] <ojwb> while I'm here, is there a way to only enable backports for a particular version?  i.e. just for hardy?
[01:56] <wgrant> I don't think so. What I might do is copy debhelper from hardy-backports in the primary archive to hardy in your PPA.
[01:56] <ojwb> ah, good idea
[01:57] <wgrant> There's even a convenient web UI to do that, somewhere...
[01:57] <ojwb> "Copy packages" I guess
[01:58] <ojwb> hmm, except that's "copy from here"
[01:58] <wgrant> Yep.
[01:58]  * wgrant is constructing a URL that hopefully won't time out.
[01:59] <spm> wgrant: you wouldn't happen to know what priority the rebuilds have atm? or even better - point me at a URL that shows what's in the queues?
[01:59] <wgrant> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+copy-packages?field.name_filter=debhelper&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=hardy
[02:00] <wgrant> spm: 4, I think.
[02:00] <spm> wgrant: ta. lets try 500 then as new build score
[02:00] <wgrant> ojwb: Copy debhelper from that URL.
[02:01] <wgrant> spm: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/test-rebuild-20090513/+builds
[02:01] <wgrant> 4 it is.
[02:01] <spm> ojwb: that looks better. ~ 42 mins and 24mins
[02:01] <ojwb> spm: marvellous
[02:02] <spm> wgrant: ta, appreciated!
[02:05] <ojwb> wgrant: yep, that worked, thanks
[02:06] <wgrant> ojwb: Excellent.
[02:11] <aboudreault> as soon as i upload a x version..... if i do another upload, i should absolutly change it ? like xbuild2. Even if the other one didn't build and the new one is the correction. Am I right ?
[02:12] <wgrant> aboudreault: Yes.
[02:12] <mwhudson> aboudreault: yes
[02:13] <aboudreault> Ok.
[08:19] <knielsen> hm, is there any way to get revid: revision ids in branch notification emails? the bzr revision numbers are mostly useless as they can mutate at any time ...
[09:59] <davidbarth> intellectronica: ping? got some time for a mailing list issue in LP?
[13:48] <fta> how often superseded packages are removed? (in PPAs)
[14:07] <maxb> Removed from Packages/Sources? Removed from ppa.launchpad.net? Removed from the librarian?
[14:07] <maxb> fta: ^
[14:07] <fta> https://edge.launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa
[14:08] <fta> my last update was rejected (full)
[14:08] <fta> seems it contains everything from the last 3 days
[14:09] <fta> Rejected: PPA exceeded its size limit (20830.00 of 20480.00 MiB).
[14:10] <fta> but i don't really need more space, i just want older stuff to disappear sooner
[14:10] <VK7HSE> fta: Delete it!
[14:11] <fta> well, archives are good to have, but not when they lead to rejects
[14:11] <fta> no, delete is bad, it drops everything, including history
[14:12] <VK7HSE> when you delete it move what you have deleted to the librarian... thus out of your ppa...
[14:13] <fta> last time i tried, it trashed my history
[14:13] <fta> my initial question was how long should i wait to regain the space?
[14:14] <VK7HSE> but the way you have named some of your builds they don't all supersede one another... :-/
[14:17] <fta> ?
[14:17] <fta> they should
[14:18] <VK7HSE> sorry I had the filter set to all! I'm wrong!
[14:18] <fta> i don't want to have several versions of a given deb for a given dist+arch couple
[14:18] <VK7HSE> understand that! :)
[15:05] <aboudreault> If i know that my package (which is currently uploaded on launchpad:hardy) build perfectly in intrepid also, without any change. I suppose that I can do a simple "Copy packages"
[15:06] <aboudreault> When are we allowed to select "Rebuild the copied sources" option?
[15:06] <maxb> Only when copying to a different *archive*
[15:07] <maxb> Not when copying between series within an archive
[15:07] <aboudreault> archive ? You mean PPA ?
[15:08] <maxb> That's what the A of PPA stands for
[15:08] <aboudreault> yeah, wanted to be sure ;)
[15:08] <aboudreault> So the other will simply copy the binaries. without rebuild.
[15:09] <aboudreault> Ok, thx
[15:09] <warp10> If I change my launchpad primary address, my @ubuntu.com is automatically redirected to the new address, isn't it?
[15:47] <tsimpson> warp10: yes, but not instantly
[15:47] <warp10> tsimpson: ok, great. Thank you!
[17:11] <sayakb> hai! There seems to be a spam attack on the ~64-bit team ML since the last few weeks. Is there anything that can be done?
[17:11] <sayakb> the "From" address is 64-bit@lists.launchpad.net, which probably means that the spammer is subscribed to the list
[17:13] <maxb> I do not think that follows
[17:15] <sayakb> well, even if it doesn't, I'd want to somehow stop this spam, as it's flooding my mailbox
[17:38] <RichiH> hi
[17:39] <RichiH> i just learned of the existance of https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/zsh
[17:39] <RichiH> problem is, no one ever reads that
[17:39] <RichiH> is there a way to have everything in there forwarded to a mailing list?
[17:40] <RichiH> all dev works happens on zsh-workers@sunsite.dk
[17:40] <RichiH> with a bug buffer on sourceforge, but that is mostly useless as bugs tend to be fixed rather fast and features get a definite aye or nay within a few days
[17:42] <beuno> BjornT, ^
[17:42] <beuno> RichiH, you could subscribe to the bugmail
[17:42] <beuno> RichiH, as a dirty hack, you could create a user with that ML as an email
[17:42] <beuno> and subscribe that user  :)
[17:43] <RichiH> hmmk
[17:43] <BjornT> beuno, RichiH: that's basically what you have to do. although a team is better than a user.
[17:43] <RichiH> there is no way to forbid non-ubuntu-packaging-related reports?
[17:43] <beuno> ah! right
[17:44] <beuno> teams
[17:44] <beuno> RichiH, how would you do that?
[17:44] <RichiH> so i register at launchpad, some admin gives me the rights to a team called zsh or similar and i then do $stuff to make launchpad spew stuff onto the ml
[17:44] <RichiH> ?
[17:44] <RichiH> beuno: good question as that is non-trivial :)
[17:45] <RichiH> but i thought i'd ask
[17:45] <beuno> RichiH, yes, register in launchpad, create a team, and subscribe the team
[17:45] <beuno> I'll be happy to walk you through it
[17:47] <RichiH> seems i regged in 02.12.2006 at 16:56 *shrug*