[00:19] <huma> how about updating server guide url in the topic?
[00:33] <wizardslovak> how to change hostname?
[00:34] <jeiworth> wizardslovak: /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts
[00:34] <wizardslovak> isnt there command for changing hostname?
[00:36] <wizardslovak> i changed hostname in /etc/hostname and is still old when i type hostname -f
[00:36] <huma> is php in 9.04 suhosin patched?
[00:37] <jmedina> wizardslovak: use hostname command
[00:37] <jmedina> hostname newhostname
[00:37] <wizardslovak> can i change it to mail.domain.com?
[00:47] <jmedina> wizardslovak: if you update /etc/hostname you need to run /etc/init.d/hostname.sh
[00:49] <wizardslovak> ok i kinda dont get it
[00:50] <wizardslovak> in my domain name register site i created MX record 0 on server1.domain.com and it worked
[00:50] <wizardslovak> when i changed server1.domain.com to ip of my server i got error
[00:51] <wizardslovak> "Forward Address is not RFC compliant."
[00:51] <wizardslovak> do i need to run dns server ??
[00:52] <wizardslovak> or i have to "register" my server  somewhere in order to  run mail server for my web site?
[01:32] <Azodon> is there a way to change system host name after install?
[01:41] <pmatulis> Azodon: yes
[01:42] <Azodon> pmatulis : is there an easy menu? i also remember one time opening a menu and having the choice to install LAMP and other things
[01:42] <Azodon> but can remeber
[01:43] <Wiseguy> hey guys has anyone got a wireless card with a broadcom 4306 chip working before? im having some strange issues
[01:44] <pmatulis> Azodon: don't know about a menu, just edit /etc/hostname (and maybe /etc/hosts) and reboot
[01:44] <Azodon> hostname "newname"
[01:45] <pmatulis> huh?
[01:45] <Azodon> thats the command
[01:45] <Azodon> hostname "new host name"
[01:46] <Azodon> changed it instant
[01:46] <pmatulis> you think that's going to help you?
[01:46] <ssd7> Azodon: that will not be a permanent change though.
[01:46] <Azodon> no? damn
[01:46] <Azodon> ok i will edit files
[01:47] <Azodon> thank you
[02:00] <Azodon> pmatulis : tasksel was what i was thinking of
[02:01] <Azodon> for the record i had to edit /etc/hostname then run script /etc/init.d/hostname.sh
[02:01] <Azodon> thanks again for the right direction
[02:22] <Wiseguy> hey guys if i need to run about 4 commands during startup, but i need it at the end of the startup process, where is the best place to add these commands?
[02:34] <sommer> Wiseguy: /etc/rc.local
[02:52] <slide> I installed ubuntu server about a week or 2 ago and i was able to SSH in fine before. I just tried to SSH in and its asking me for a password AND an authentication response which i have no idea what its supposed to be
[02:56] <slide> never mind im an idiot
[04:48] <omegamormegil> Greetings!  I'm thinking of trying my hand at setting up my first mailserver using the dovecot-postfix package in Jaunty.  I don't see any documentation on the new Jaunty stuff in the Ubuntu Community Documentation.  Is there a HowTo doc somewhere addressing the new mail server stuff in Jaunty?
[04:49] <ball> Is there some way to ask Ubuntu Server what sound hardware is present?
[04:50] <p_quarles> ball: lspci might show it; lshw (install it via apt-get) will be more likely to give you readable results
[04:53] <wizardslovak> i think my logging system doesnt work
[04:53] <wizardslovak> "nano mail.info" shows empty
[04:54] <ball> It doesn't look as though Linux recognises the sound hardware.
[04:54] <ball> hello Deevz
[04:55] <ball> brb, kid's coughing
[04:55] <Deevz> hello ball
[04:57] <ball> hello pace_t_zulu
[04:58] <pace_t_zulu> hell ball
[04:58] <pace_t_zulu> hello
[04:58] <pace_t_zulu> hello ball
[04:58] <pace_t_zulu> 3rd time's a charm
[04:59] <ScottK> wizardslovak: What packages do you have installed that you expect to write in that logfile?
[04:59] <ball> Crap, that's two machines where I can't use sound.
[05:00] <ball> I'm not batting too well.
[05:01] <wizardslovak> ScottK: well postfix
[05:02] <ScottK> wizardslovak: OK.  That writes in that file here, so that's a good start.
[05:02] <ScottK> wizardslovak: How about mail.info.0 ?
[05:03] <wizardslovak> ok i see some stuff
[05:05] <ball> Okay, this thing supposedly has a Crystal Semiconductor CS4236
[05:05] <ball> Can Ubuntu Server use that?
[05:06] <ScottK> ball: I have a suggestion for you on how to do this ...
[05:07] <ScottK> 1.  Install a desktop system on the machine and see if sound works.
[05:07] <ScottK> 2.  Switch to the server kernel (leaving the desktop installed).
[05:07] <ScottK> 3.  See if sound still works.
[05:08] <ball> It's not practical for me to install a desktop on that machine
[05:08] <ScottK> Not even for testing?
[05:08] <ball> It only has 256 Mbytes RAM and 6.5 Gbytes disk space.
[05:08] <ball> (all of which is dedicated to Ubuntu Server)
[05:08] <ScottK> Xubuntu will run on that.
[05:09] <ScottK> You could add xubuntu-desktop to your existing server and see if sound works in it
[05:09] <ball> You think the server kernel just doesn't include sound support?
[05:10] <ScottK> Sound in  server is not a common request so short of trying it, I think you're unlikely to get a good answer.
[05:10] <ScottK> I suspect it does, but you lack some configuration magic.
[05:11] <ball> I could try Xubuntu on that, but I'll have to wait until I'm in a position to move its contents elsewhere.
[05:15] <ball> Oh well.
[05:15] <ball> I have one machine where sound works and another where video works.
[05:15] <ScottK> Xubuntu doesn't take a huge amount of space.  You could upgrade the existing install, not reinstall.
[05:16] <ScottK> It'd just be sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop.
[05:16] <ball> ScottK: that may interfere with the job it's already doing.  I'm not sure I can take that risk this month.
[05:16] <ScottK> Ah.  I understand that.
[05:17] <ScottK> Just offering a potential path forward since I doubt you'll get a lot of help here (due to it's an unusual request).
[05:17] <ball> I suppose I should shut down the machine I'm sitting at and install a sound card in that.
[05:17] <ScottK> wizardslovak: So how long ago is the last entry in mail.info.0?
[05:17] <ScottK> Postfix may not have had anything to say since then.
[05:18] <wizardslovak> may 13 7am
[05:21] <ball> Oh well, back in about half an hour.
[05:22] <ScottK> wizardslovak: I'd take a look at what's in there and see if it's looks likely anything is actually missing.
[05:23] <angelleye> I've got Ubuntu 9 installed in a VM.  Last night I did a clean install of lamp and made some basic configuration changes.  Everything was running great and then I suddenly started getting an error when I tried to restart apache:
[05:23] <angelleye> (13) Permission Denied: make_sock: Could not bind to address 0.0.0.0:80.
[05:23] <wizardslovak> second week i am trying to get postfix running and cant
[05:23] <angelleye> I rebooted a few times, I even restored the VM back to clean install and re-installed lamp.  I couldn't get it to stop happening.
[05:23] <angelleye> Now today it's not happening.
[05:23] <angelleye> no idea why
[05:23] <angelleye> can anybody shed light on that for me?
[05:24] <angelleye> When it was happening I could do apache2 stop and it would say OK, but the site would still load
[05:24] <angelleye> restart would return that error
[05:25] <angelleye> but again, the site would always load.  now today i sat down to try and trouble this some more...and it's not happening
[05:30] <racecar56> how do i make a usb stick of ubuntu server correctly? it seems unetbootin dosent help
[05:30] <racecar56> O_o
[05:31] <ScottK> wizardslovak: What seems to be your problem with getting postfix running (what do you want it to do?)
[05:39] <wizardslovak> well to receive outside mail
[05:41] <twb> racecar56: just install to the USB key as if it were a disk
[05:43] <racecar56> twb, sorry, i meant like i could install FROM it
[05:43] <racecar56> twb, anyhow, i fixed the problem by using expert install
[05:43] <ScottK> wizardslovak: OK.  I may be able to help you a bit (I'll be going to bed soon, I hope).  Where did you get stuck?
[05:44] <wizardslovak> scott i gotta go
[05:44] <wizardslovak> can you send me your email ?
[05:45] <ScottK> wizardslovak: I'm generally around when it's work time in UTC -0400.
[05:46] <wizardslovak> well i will be here tomorrow about same time
[05:47] <ScottK> Feel free to ask when you have time.  If I have time then I'll be glad to help.
[05:47] <wizardslovak> what do you see when you dig wizzy.us mx?
[05:51] <wizardslovak> so problem is when i send mail from server to gmail i see message
[05:52] <wizardslovak> when i reply to name@wizzy.us i dont get nothing back
[05:53] <ScottK> server1.wizzy.us
[05:53] <ScottK> wizardslovak: So you are at 24.184.56.146
[05:53] <wizardslovak> yes
[05:54] <ajmitch> it at least replies with a postfix banner on that address
[05:54] <ScottK> Yep
[05:54] <wizardslovak> i was trying to get postfix people to help me but they kind
[05:55] <wizardslovak> why cant i receive mail?
[05:55] <wizardslovak> should i install squirrelmail?
[05:55] <ScottK> Since postfix is running and reachable, it's logs should tell the story
[05:55] <wizardslovak> mail.info.0??
[05:55] <ScottK> I just tried to connect to your server.  The attempt should be in your /var/log/mail.log
[05:56] <wizardslovak> sudo nano /var/log/mail.log
[05:56] <ScottK> You shouldn't need sudo to read logs
[05:56] <wizardslovak> lol my fault
[05:56] <wizardslovak> 7972 lines?????
[05:57] <ScottK> Well that's where the story is
[05:57] <wizardslovak> what am i looking for?
[05:57] <ScottK> So try tail -f /var/log/mail.log then try to send yourself mail.
[05:57] <ScottK> See what the log tells you.
[05:57] <angelleye> I'm trying to edit network interfaces file for a static IP.  I'm following the guides I see but when I try and restart networking it says failed and can't read the interfaces file.  All of the samples I see seem to be tabbed over when they show address, netmask, etc.  Is there some special format I need?
[05:58] <wizardslovak> i see "warning: valid_hostname: invalid character 47 (decimal):etc/mailname
[05:58] <ScottK> wizardslovak: So now sudo nano /etc/mailname
[05:58] <ScottK> What's in there?
[05:59] <wizardslovak> server1.wizzy.us
[06:01] <ScottK> Odd.
[06:01] <wizardslovak> ??
[06:01] <ScottK> ascii 47 is "/"
[06:02] <jmarsden> ScottK: The char 47 is the / so the issue is that notehr config file has etc/mailname where it should have the actual server name itself.
[06:02] <ScottK> jmarsden: Ah.  Good point.
[06:02] <wizardslovak> so i am missing "/" somewhere
[06:02] <ScottK> wizardslovak: Time to pastebin the output of postconf -n
[06:03] <jmarsden> wizardslovak: Or you have a / where you should not have one...
[06:04] <wizardslovak> http://pastebin.com/m59a91214
[06:05] <jmarsden> Hmmm.  Does the /etc/mailname file have a trailing newline?  Maybe it needs one for postfix to recognize the contents???
[06:06] <ScottK> Mine doesn't have it.
[06:06] <wizardslovak> well mailname has only one line "server1.wizzy.us"
[06:07] <wizardslovak> maybe i should erase it?
[06:07] <ScottK> wizardslovak: I note in mydestination you have ,  , I doubt that's the problem, but please remove the extra comma, do postfix reload and try again.
[06:07] <ScottK> wizardslovak: Don't start making random changes to your system.
[06:07] <wizardslovak> ok
[06:07] <wizardslovak> just asking
[06:08] <ScottK> Fix mydestination first.
[06:08] <wizardslovak> ok done
[06:09] <wizardslovak> fixed and restarted
[06:10] <wizardslovak> i got itt
[06:10] <wizardslovak> heheh
[06:10] <wizardslovak> i see message from my gmail account
[06:11] <jmarsden> wizardslovak: So it is now working fine?  No more warnings in the log file?
[06:12] <wizardslovak> let me check log
[06:14] <wizardslovak> "tail -f /var/log/mail/log" may 14 22.33.00 ubuntuserver postfix master[32059]: terminating on signal 15
[06:15] <wizardslovak> exit
[06:16] <ScottK> That's from when you reloaded
[06:16] <ScottK> Nothing unusual there
[06:16] <wizardslovak> okk
[06:16] <wizardslovak> thanks scott
[06:16] <wizardslovak> one more think
[06:16] <wizardslovak> can i access email in web?
[06:16] <wizardslovak> something like google or yahoo has?
[06:17] <jmarsden> You can add a webmail client to your web server.  squirrelmail or horde or roundcube or... plenty of choices...
[06:18] <wizardslovak> ok
[06:18] <wizardslovak> if i want to add second email to adress where should i add user?
[06:18] <wizardslovak> i mean ok my email is wizardslovak@wizzy.us , what if i want luke@wizzy.us?
[06:20] <ScottK> wizardslovak: If you want to learn about Postfix setup and running a well configured mail server, go get yourself a copy of "The Book of Postfix".
[06:20] <wizardslovak> i am waiting for couple books
[06:20] <wizardslovak> postfix,ubuntu server, apache and mysql
[06:23] <angelleye> when running commands from the command line, sometimes samples show the use ' or " but when I try and type that into the command line it won't work
[06:23] <angelleye> what am I supposed to use there?
[06:23] <jmarsden> wizardslovak: If you want to alias luke@ to an existing account, edit /etc/aliases
[06:24] <jmarsden> angelleye: What sample command are you referring to -- link please?
[06:24] <angelleye> http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu-9.04-ispconfig-2-p5
[06:24] <angelleye> the stuff about postconfi -e 'smtpd_sasl_localdomain...
[06:25] <jmarsden> Those are single quotes and should work as such.  But double quotes (in that particular case) should also work.
[06:25] <jmarsden> Just use the same kind of quote at both ends of the string :)
[06:25] <angelleye> well, i can't type any type of quotes into the command line, though
[06:25] <angelleye> it pauses for a moment and then gives me a bad "bleep" sound
[06:26] <jmarsden> huh?  What language keyboard do you have???
[06:26] <angelleye> it's just a regular us keyboard
[06:26] <angelleye> in ubuntu terminal when I type a ' or " nothing comes up
[06:26] <jmarsden> The the quite key shoul dwork fine to enter quote marks... the one to the left of the ; key, to the right of the Enter key...
[06:27] <angelleye> uh...to the left of my ; is the L key
[06:27] <angelleye> which is standard...that's the home row.  i'm confused.
[06:28] <jmarsden> Sorry, I said that backwards :|  to the right of ; and to the left of Enter
[06:28] <angelleye> ok, well yeah that's just ' or "
[06:28] <angelleye> that's what i'm trying to use
[06:28] <jmarsden> Yes.  OK.  Then something unusual is acting on those keys.  That is not how Ubuntu shells should work.
[06:28] <angelleye> i'm running in a VM.  you think it could have something to do with it?
[06:28] <jmarsden> Are you typing on a local shell terminal window -- Gnome Terminal or something?
[06:29] <angelleye> yeah i'm in gnome terminal
[06:29] <jmarsden> Ah.. maybe.  try in a Terminal window on the host OS instead and see if that works better?
[06:29] <angelleye> the host OS is what i'm typing in here.  ' " work just fine
[06:29] <angelleye> i've got ubuntu installed in vmware
[06:29] <jmarsden> Then there seems to be some sort of VM keyboard driver/config issue.
[06:30] <angelleye> and i've just got it open with gnome loaded and a terminal window open
[06:30] <jmarsden> Maybe ask in #ubuntu-virt about that?  I use virtualbox-ose and do not have that issue... but I don't know enough about vmware to trubleshoto it.
[06:30] <angelleye> ok i'll check it out.  thanks
[06:30] <jmarsden> No problem.
[06:33] <wizardslovak> ok now i am playing with squirrelmail
[06:34] <wizardslovak> i installed it and configured http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/#config-extra-webmail
[06:34] <wizardslovak> but when i do mail.wizzy.us i am getting error "domain not found"
[06:35] <jmarsden> do you have a machine in the DNS called mail.wizzy.us -- I do not see it...
[06:38] <wizardslovak> you mean MX record?
[06:38] <wizardslovak> or A record?
[06:39] <jmarsden> I don't see either one, I checked with dig mail.wizzy.us a and with dig mail.wizzy.us mx   -- both return an NXDOMAIN error
[06:41] <ScottK> jmarsden: The mx is server1.wizzy.us
[06:41] <ScottK> And with that, I'm off to bed.
[06:41] <jmarsden> Then why did you use mail.wizzy.us ?  Be consistent :)
[06:41] <jmarsden> Goodnight ScottK
[06:42] <wizardslovak> thank you scott and good night
[06:42] <wizardslovak> jmarsden:  well i tried mail.wizzy.us
[06:42] <wizardslovak> but error domain not found
[06:42] <wizardslovak> although when i type server1.wizzy.us i see my site
[06:42] <jmarsden> Right.  You do not have a machine named mail.wizzy.us on the INternet at present.
[06:43] <wizardslovak> no
[06:43] <wizardslovak> hostname is server1.wizzy.us
[06:43] <wizardslovak> name of server
[06:43] <jmarsden> so using the name mail.wizzy.us is not likely to work.
[06:43] <jmarsden> It is not *supposed* to work :)
[06:43] <wizardslovak> no
[06:43] <wizardslovak> it doesnt
[06:44] <jmarsden> OK.  When you said "but when i do mail.wizzy.us i am getting error "domain not found""  I took that as a request for help to get that to work, that you were surprised by the error... now I'm just confused about what you are trying to do!
[06:44] <wizardslovak> ok
[06:45] <wizardslovak> i installed squirrelmail , and in howto says i should login with mail.wizzy.us
[06:45] <wizardslovak> i even tried wizzy.us/squirrelmail
[06:45] <wizardslovak> "The requested URL /squirrelmail was not found on this server."
[06:46] <jmarsden> You installed squirrelmail where?  And you your DocumentRoot set to what in your apache config...
[06:47] <wizardslovak> i cant find document root
[06:47] <jmarsden> Then you are in trouble... where are the files your web server serves? :)
[06:48] <wizardslovak> i used this howdy http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/#config-extra-webmail
[06:48] <wizardslovak> in wizzy.us folder
[06:48] <jmarsden> and did you install squirrelmail into that same place?
[06:48] <wizardslovak> no
[06:49] <jmarsden> Then why would you expect the web server to be able to find squirrelmail when you installed it somewhere you did not tell the webserver to serve? :)
[06:49] <wizardslovak> upps
[06:49] <wizardslovak> how can i fix it?
[06:49] <jmarsden> I do not think your howto for webmail matches what you did to set up your apache.
[06:51] <jmarsden> Make the two things consistent.  Either set the web server to serve the default DocumentRoot, or else move the squirrelmail stuff to the a folder called squirrelmail in your wizzy.us folder, and change the config to match that approach.
[06:51] <wizardslovak> ok i know where squirrelmail is
[06:52] <wizardslovak> just copy it into /var/www/wizzy.us?
[06:52] <jmarsden> You can try that... it's not ideal, but... it may work.
[06:53] <wizardslovak> or maybe i can show apache where to look for squirrelmail
[06:53] <wizardslovak> without copying folder into web folder
[06:53] <jmarsden> That is probably the better approach.
[06:53] <wizardslovak> it should be in apache2.conf or in 000-defauult?
[06:54] <ball> Bed time.
[06:54] <jmarsden> Probably in the virtualhost stuff, so in 000-default if that is where you set that up.
[06:56] <jmarsden> If both squirrelmail and the wizzy.us stuff are under /var/www you might be able to set up a symlink in /var/wwww/wizzy.us that points to wheresquirrelmai is, and the configure your virtualhost to follow symlinks.
[06:57] <wizardslovak> i see
[06:57] <wizardslovak> i am in 00-default
[06:57] <wizardslovak> where should i put that /etc/squirrelmail?
[06:58] <wizardslovak> i see /var/www/wizzy.us
[07:01] <jmarsden> I think you need to read that Apache book so you better understand what is going on first?  No, /etc/squirrelmail is not where you want to symlink to, as far as I know at least...
[07:01] <jmarsden> I should be going to bed too...
[07:01] <wizardslovak> ok man thank you then
[07:01] <wizardslovak> hihih
[07:06] <wizardslovak> one more think
[07:06] <wizardslovak> when i go wizzy.us/squirrelmail/index.php it works
[07:31] <MeXTuX> I have an old PC (Pentium III 500 MHz with 96 MB RAM and 10 GB HD) and want to install a command line system in order to set up a proxy server. I have a classroom with 20 PC's and want to use the old PC as a proxy server. Is this hardware suitable to accomplish this??
[07:34] <logist> yes but hd is small for proxy
[07:38] <MeXTuX> somebody told me that it would be better if I try with a light distro. I think getting a bigger disk is not an option to me because I won't get the money :) So should I try with a light distro instead??
[07:44] <Piet> MeXTuX: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements#Absolute minimum installation
[08:50] <angelleye> I've just installed proftpd and I'm trying to get logged into it.  I can connect and it asks for a username and password but apparently I don't know how to configure un/pw's.  I thought it would just use the user account that's created in my passwd file and use that home directory as well..??
[08:51] <angelleye> Everything I'm readaing says that should work, but then you could also create virtual users as well
[08:51] <khermans> angelleye, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/settingup-an-ftp-server-on-ubuntu-with-proftpd.html
[08:53] <angelleye> khermans:  i've gone through that but it doesn't say much about user creation.  i've got it installed and working.  it's just not accepting my logins.
[08:53] <angelleye> it picks up when I connect to the ftp server, though
[08:53] <angelleye> it says by default users can ftp into their home directories
[08:53] <angelleye> that's not working
[08:53] <khermans> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79588
[08:53] <khermans> angelleye, are you sure the service listening is Proftpd ?
[08:54] <angelleye> yup, i've had that one open too.  in fact that's the "old" one
[08:54] <angelleye> there's a link at the top to a more udpated version
[08:54] <khermans> angelleye, do you see a banner saying so?  and you sure it is the right ftp server that you ocnfigured that you are connecting to?
[08:54] <angelleye> and that's the one I was going by.  everything i read says that by default you should get access to your home directory
[08:54] <angelleye> then it breaks down how to create virtual users and virtual hosts, etc.  but i don't needd that
[08:54] <angelleye> i just wnat to access to my home directory for the system user like it says i should have
[08:55] <angelleye> whoops, you did send the newer one, sorry
[08:55] <angelleye> but still...the default stuff doesn't seem to be working and that's all i need.
[08:58] <angelleye> grrr...i just keep getting login incorrect
[08:58] <angelleye> i've double checked the /etc/passwd file to see if the user is in there and it is, as it should be
[08:58] <angelleye> and everything in all these guides says that's what it uses by default
[09:03] <khermans> angelleye, try vsftpd instead
[09:05] <twb> vsftpd is by far the nicest FTP server.
[09:34] <macno> hi all , I need to modify apparmor.d/usr.sbin.slapd to permit to read my certs
[09:36] <macno> or do I have to put certs in another directory?
[09:41] <macno> ok, solved thanks
[09:46] <khermans> macno, you would just allow the read() calls to the dir you want
[09:47] <macno> khermans: yes I do that
[10:11] <Hamzifer> hi, is there an easy way to build a deb from the trunk of a launchpad project (ie, to get the latest code rather than waiting for the next release)
[10:15] <jmarsden> Hamzifer: define "easy".  If you are comfortable with using bzr builddeb ... use it :)
[10:17] <Hamzifer> i didnt know about bzr builddeb, will look into that, thanks
[10:19]  * Hamzifer has his first foray into the world of bzr
[10:24] <Hamzifer> hmm, keeps complaining about wanting an upstream tarball
[10:24] <Hamzifer> of a release version that hasn't been released
[10:28] <Hamzifer> ah, think i've found a bug report and workaround
[10:31] <Hamzifer> kirkland: dunno whether this is relevant to your trunk or bzr-builddeb in hardy, but i couldn't builddeb your latest byobu source, bug 309335 had a workaround for me though that worked
[10:32] <Hamzifer> kirkland: (yep, i'm now struggling to use screen without one of your profiles running, heh! only took 3-4 days of regular usage to become invaluable, good job!)
[10:33] <Hamzifer> kirkland: and i saw you'd committed a fix to the hardy bug, and being impatient... :)
[10:34] <Blinkiz> Hi. Am using kvm virtualization and have started to use centos as a couple of quests. As you may know, centos uses 1000Hz in kernel instead of 100Hz that Ubuntu does. Also, asterisk timing clock zaptel (ztdummy) wants 1000Hz from kernel. So am thinking about raising this in Ubuntu server kernel. What is the downside of this?
[10:35] <Blinkiz> guest
[10:37] <Blinkiz> With centos 5.2+ its possible to use the "divider=10" grub kernel line. It works great. But it does not solve my angry ztdummy that comes with asterisk. So because of this, am thinking about raising CONFIG_HZ parameter from 100 to 1000. Any downsides?
[12:55] <al_paun> Hi everybody
[12:55] <al_paun> Please, can anyone help me to configure a backup internet connection to activate automaticaly if the main internet connection is down?
[13:01] <soren> can you provide a bit more context and perhaps say a bit about your expectations from this?
[13:01] <al_paun> Sure
[13:01] <a_ok> al_paun you want linux to do spanning tree for you?
[13:02] <al_paun> spanning tree?
[13:02] <al_paun> don't know the term
[13:02] <al_paun> ok let me explain what is my problem
[13:03] <al_paun> I have two internet connection on a ubuntu server. What i need is to configure the the two connections to switch automaticaly between if the one is down
[13:03] <al_paun> there is one which is main (eth1)
[13:03] <macno> al_paun: which type of "internet connection"?
[13:03] <a_ok> al_paun: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanning_tree_protocol
[13:04] <al_paun> two broadband connections. One is main and one backup
[13:05] <macno> al_paun: ok, so you have the default route on eth1
[13:05] <al_paun> yes
[13:05] <al_paun> and eth2 is the backup one.
[13:05] <al_paun> eth0 is internal network
[13:06] <macno> al_paun: you can first try adding a second 0.0.0.0/0 route with higher metric on eth2
[13:10] <al_paun> ok
[13:19] <al_paun> can you please tell me what gateway to add for the route and how to set the metric?
[13:19] <al_paun> i'm not realy a guru  in ubuntu :P
[13:20] <macno> al_paun: eth1 and eth2 use dhcp?
[13:20] <al_paun> no.
[13:20] <al_paun> they are static ip
[13:20] <tadeu_> guys, how can i install a bigmem kernel in ubuntu ?
[13:21] <macno> al_paun: the gateway is your router ip address
[13:22] <al_paun> ok, what about metric?
[13:22] <macno> al_paun: please pastebin `route -n` output
[13:25] <tonyyarusso> I thought the server kernel already had bigmem these days?
[13:26] <macno> al_paun: btw you could add +100 to the current metric .
[13:29] <al_paun> ok i have eth1 configured like this address 217.156.27.163 gateway 217.156.27.161 netmask 255.255.255.224
[13:29] <al_paun> and eth2 is 10.0.0.1 gateway 10.0.0.138 netmask 255.255.255.0
[13:32] <macno> al_paun: with route -n you can see the current metric
[13:34] <al_paun> the two connections are not yet plug in the computer. I'm upgrading to ubuntu from a gentoo I can paste for you the information available in gentoo for route -n for the server that has plug in the connections. and also the route -n for the current server.
[13:35] <al_paun> 217.156.27.160  0.0.0.0         255.255.255.224 U     0      0        0 eth1
[13:35] <al_paun> 10.0.0.0        0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth2
[13:35] <al_paun> 192.168.1.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth0
[13:35] <al_paun> 127.0.0.0       0.0.0.0         255.0.0.0       U     0      0        0 lo
[13:36] <soren> You have this already working under Gentoo?
[13:36] <al_paun> yes
[13:36] <al_paun> but the server is old
[13:36] <al_paun> and needs replacement
[13:36] <soren> Well, how'd you do it? Just use the same mechanism under Ubuntu. No need to reinvent the wheel, if what you have works.
[13:36] <al_paun> it wasn't made by me.
[13:38] <al_paun> this server is in production and it's old and get overloaded all the time
[13:43] <al_paun> currently the route on the new server is
[13:43] <al_paun> 192.168.1.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth0
[13:43] <al_paun> 0.0.0.0         192.168.1.1     0.0.0.0         UG    100    0        0 eth0
[13:53] <codeshepherd> what are the advantages of using ubuntu over debian on a server ?
[13:54] <ScottK> It kind of depends on what you are using it for.
[13:55] <ScottK> For our LTS releases there is a (probable) longer support window in Ubuntu.  Debian is aiming for releases every 18 months and oldstable gets a year of support, so nominally Debian releases are supported for 2 1/2 years.  Ubuntu LTS releases are supported for 5 years on the server.
[13:55] <codeshepherd> nginx + php + memcache + mysql  ScottK
[13:57] <macno> !pastebin
[13:57] <ScottK> I little out of my area of focus, so I don't know specifics.
[13:57] <ScottK> If you need a release with mysql 5.1, then it is (community supported) in Ubuntu Jaunty.  Debian doesn't have such a release at all yet.
[13:58] <codeshepherd> ScottK:  oh.. thats great
[14:00] <VK7HSE> NOOB Qestion!   But is there any benefits to mysql 5.1 over 5.0 ???
[14:00] <ScottK> Dunno.
[14:00] <ScottK> I'm guessing the mysql developers wouldn't have released something new if they didn't think it was better.
[14:00] <VK7HSE> other than it being newer, and in universe! true!...
[14:01] <ScottK> codeshepherd: Also for Karmic we are planning on extending our apparmor work to make it relatively easy to contain PHP applications so it's easier to keep your system more secure internally.
[14:01] <ScottK> That's future work though, so no promises.
[14:01] <codeshepherd> ok ScottK
[14:02] <ScottK> Debian uses selinux which means you either need to use exactly their supported use case, be an SE linux guru, or turn it off.
[14:02] <VK7HSE> he, he... I finally got my head around UFW tonight!...  (previously was using shorewall!) :P
[14:02] <ScottK> Apparmor is substantially less admin hostile.
[14:04] <codeshepherd> ubuntu server edition has different release names ?
[14:05] <macno> codeshepherd: no
[14:05] <codeshepherd> ok macno
[14:06] <VK7HSE> No! as the Ubuntu release name goes across all variants...
[14:14] <ScottK> codeshepherd: Ubuntu server is in the same repositories as the desktop flavors.  There is a different kernel and a server specific ISO, but it all comes from the same archive.
[14:26] <reenignEesreveR> I am having a weird problem. I have two servers on one of which my ssh keys are working perfect. I copied ~/.ssh/authorized_keys2 (it has two public keys) to the other server. Weirdly the other server doesn't worked well with the copied keys; it only authenticates with one of the keys in auth_keys2 files. Any idea how to diagnose the problem?
[14:29] <W8TAH> good morning folks - -wee bit of a crisis here -- tried to log into a samba server this morning and couldnt get to the shared directory -- logged in via putty -- tried to CD to the directory -- was told input/output error -- rebooted the box and now its come up in a maint shell saying to fix the file system manually
[14:29] <W8TAH> its running 8.10 and ext3
[14:29] <W8TAH> need some help to work through this please
[14:29] <W8TAH> kinda in a place ive never been before
[14:30] <macno> reenignEesreveR: take a look at /var/log/auth.log
[14:32] <W8TAH> the fsck log says that its unable to resolve one of the UUID's (big long number)
[14:46] <Onbekend6> i need some help
[14:46] <Onbekend6> can some one help me?:) plz
[14:46] <maxb> !ask
[14:47] <Onbekend6> im traying to edited the Makefile and changed x86_32 to x86
[14:47] <Onbekend6> whats the cammondo
[14:47] <W8TAH> good morning folks - -wee bit of a crisis here -- tried to log into a samba server this morning and couldnt get to the shared directory -- logged in via putty -- tried to CD to the directory -- was told input/output error -- rebooted the box and now its come up in a maint shell saying to fix the file system manually
[14:47] <Onbekend6> edited the Makefile and changed x86_32 to x86
[14:47] <Onbekend6> how to do that?
[14:48] <Onbekend6>  agian im traying to edited the Makefile and changed x86_32 to x86
[14:49] <W8TAH> Onbekend6: cant you open it in vim and change the value?
[14:49] <Onbekend6> no
[14:50] <Onbekend6> becouse its inside xen server
[14:50] <W8TAH> then i have no idea -- i dont normally mess with makefiles
[14:50] <W8TAH> im sorry
[14:50] <Onbekend6> i use the 64bit
[14:50] <Onbekend6> and the file is 32bit
[14:50] <maxb> W8TAH: Sounds like a bad disk
[14:50] <Onbekend6> hmmm i just need the command to change die file name
[14:50] <reenignEesreveR> macd__, auth.log gives "Public key [blablabla] blacklisted (see ssh-vulnkey(1))" ... where do i get the details from?
[14:50] <W8TAH> maxb: ok.... any chance to recover data off it?
[14:51] <maxb> No idea... you're the one with the disk
[14:51] <W8TAH> maxb: ya -- i know - -just not sure how to proceede here --
[14:51] <W8TAH> never had this happen before
[14:51] <reenignEesreveR> macno, auth.log gives "Public key [blablabla] blacklisted (see ssh-vulnkey(1))" ... where do i get the details from?
[14:51] <maxb> reenignEesreveR: What details?
[14:51] <ScottK> reenignEesreveR: Did you see man ssh-vulnkey?
[14:52] <reenignEesreveR> maxb, ssh-vulnkey(1) <---
[14:52] <ScottK> reenignEesreveR: The short answer is you need to remove that key from the other machine right away.
[14:52] <maxb> Oh, word(digit) is a standard form of reference to a man page, so do as ScottK says
[14:53] <reenignEesreveR> ScottK, any pointers to why this is so?
[14:53] <ScottK> Did you read about the Debian/Ubuntu openssl vulnerability last year?
[14:53] <ScottK> reenignEesreveR: Your key is one of the bad one unless I'm completely misreading that.
[14:54] <reenignEesreveR> ScottK, yes. But I'm amazed that my other server hasn't given any panic situation :(
[14:54] <ScottK> Does it have openssl-blacklist installed?
[14:54] <ScottK> I think that's the package name.
[14:55] <maxb> openssh-blacklist
[14:55] <ScottK> Yeah.  That one.
[14:55] <ScottK> Thanks.
[14:55] <maxb> (But there's an openssl-blacklist as well. And an openvpn-blacklist IIRC)
[14:55]  * ScottK loses track
[14:56] <ScottK> I actually had all my vulnerable keys replaced before the detection tools were released.
[14:57] <jdstrand> http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-612-* has details
[15:03] <macno> reenignEesreveR: your other server is ubuntu? if yes, when you last run apt-get update?
[15:11] <W8TAH> my system is reporting that an Inode has some errors -- FSCK exited with an error code 4 (errors left uncorrected) it opened a maint shell and said to run fsck manually -- when i try to do so it yells about running it on a mounted disk
[15:11] <W8TAH> need some help walking through this --
[15:12] <W8TAH> the errors are occuring in my LVM group
[15:14] <ScottK> W8TAH: Do you have physical access to the machine?
[15:14] <W8TAH> sure do -- its just across the room from me
[15:16] <ScottK> W8TAH: I'd suggest use a live CD, boot into the live CD and then fsck the drive from that session.
[15:16] <W8TAH> ok - never done this before -- how do i specify the drive from the live cd session?
[15:17] <W8TAH> im assuming im going to select the fix a broken system option
[15:17] <ScottK> W8TAH: No, you're going to run a regular live CD session.
[15:17] <macno> W8TAH: how many drive do you have?
[15:17] <ScottK> Sorry, explaining the details would take more time than i have.
[15:17] <W8TAH> there are 2
[15:18] <W8TAH> ok - thanks scott
[15:18] <W8TAH> macno: use a server CD or a regular ubuntu cd -- this is a server box with LVM2 configured
[15:21] <macno> W8TAH: live CD  is in desktop cd (not alternate)
[15:22] <W8TAH> macno - ok  -- the server is 8.10 and i currently have a 9.04 live cd -- will that matter or should i download an older live cd?
[15:22] <W8TAH> (im probably asking too many questions -- but i want to be careful here)
[15:25] <macno> W8TAH: you have only to run fsck, you can use the 9.04
[15:26] <W8TAH> ok -- thank you - -let me get it going - im sure i'll be back with questions :D
[15:39] <reenignEesreveR> macno, last apt-get update was around 4-5 months ago
[15:50] <macno> reenignEesreveR: really strange openssh-blacklist rdepens on openssh-server . should be installed if you have openssh-server package
[15:50] <ScottK> macno: It depends on the release.  In later releases it was dropped to suggests.
[15:51] <henkjan> hmm, default serverinstall blanks the console after x minutes
[15:52] <henkjan> so, when a server crashes i can't check out why it was failing
[15:52] <macno> ScottK ah ok, I have on 6.06 and 8.04 and blacklist depends on server
[15:53] <ScottK> Yeah.  It was dropped later for CD space on the theory that everyone would have cleaned things up already.
[16:01] <yeason> I've installed and I'm working on configuring ircd-hybrid, is there somebody here who could help clarify a few things from the ircd.conf file. I want to make sure I get this setup right
[16:05] <reenignEesreveR> macno, i now manually installed openssh-blacklist package ... how do i make sure that whenever i do apt-get update all the security patches get installed automatically?
[16:05] <ScottK> !ask | yeason
[16:07] <yeason> sorry... lol, its early here. I guess I was asking if anyone was familiar with it... basically I'm to the operator portion of the conf file. for the line user = "user@127.0.0.1" I'm wondering if the correct context to allow the operator 'user' to login from anywhere would be "user@*"?
[16:09] <yeason> also for the listen block, it comes default with a bogus IP entered for 'host'. looking around I've  noticed that others just comment this out. this basically will allow the server to listen on all interfaces right?
[16:11] <W8TAH> yeason - -in honesty -- you will probably have more luck in their channel or e-mail support list
[16:11] <LHC> hey
[16:11] <LHC> anyone one a thing or two about hosting
[16:12] <yeason> W8TAH: yea... unfortunately their forums aren't resolving and there's 3 unresponsive people in their irc channel ><
[16:13] <yeason> thanks anyway =)
[16:13] <al_paun> I don't have in /etc/init.d/ the file iptables
[16:14] <LHC> i want to sell hosting from a dedicated server I have
[16:14] <ScottK> al_paun: Is there a reason you expect it to be there?
[16:14] <LHC> im trying to figure out how to include php, subdaomains etc for each user
[16:15] <al_paun> i've installed a new server and the file iptables is not there. I wanted to restart the iptables service using /etc/init.d/iptables restart but couldn't
[16:16] <SFauconnier> what would be good software to make a bittorrent box out of my server?
[16:16] <W8TAH> yeason: ok - i understand
[16:16] <SFauconnier> rtorrent?
[16:16] <LHC> rtorrent yes
[16:17] <LHC> i use that with wtorrent
[16:17] <LHC> webui
[16:17] <SFauconnier> ok, thanks LHC :)
[16:20] <ScottK> al_paun: Ubuntu server doesn't by default use iptables directly.  We provide a front end called ufw.  I'd look into that.
[16:31] <macno> I have a virtual ubuntu server 8.04 into an esx . I added a new 200gb disk from VC but ubuntu does not see it.. do I *really* need to reboot??
[16:38] <jmedina> macno: what about fdisk -l?
[16:38] <jmedina> is it listed there?
[16:39] <jmedina> any info in dmesg output?
[16:39] <macno> jmedina: no nothing..
[16:55] <macno> reboot -_-'
[16:59] <maw> general compile question... when I run ./configure and then I get a message like "configure: error: You MUST have the libxml2 (aka gnome-xml) library installed" and libxml2 is already installed. How can I check to see where ./configure is looking? I didn't see anything specific in the script
[16:59] <maw> I have libxml2.so.2 in /usr/lib/
[17:03] <macno> maw: I think you need -dev
[17:04] <maw> ya
[17:04] <maw> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[17:04] <maw>   libxml2-dev: Depends: zlib1g-dev but it is not installable or
[17:04] <maw>                         libz-dev but it is not installable
[17:04] <maw> heh
[17:05] <maw> I had everything except security commented out for apt
[17:05] <maw> will try again
[17:06] <maw> yarrrr works
[17:06] <macno> maw: fine
[17:37] <SFauconnier> I have a newbie question:: I've configured fluxbox and opened up a range of ports with ufw.. "ufw allow xxxx:yyyy/tcp" should suffice, right?
[17:38] <SFauconnier> because it seems really slow
[17:41] <ssd7> I have a drive that won't seem to mount on boot; however will mount a few seconds after boot is finished via sudo mount -a.  It is listed in my /etc/fstab using it's UUID.  However for some reason it's uuid never come up when I run blkid is there when I run ls /dev/disk/by-uuid.  I can't seem to get any traction on this issue, any ideas?
[17:46] <ScottK> ssd7: Could it be related to Bug 290153?
[17:49] <ssd7> ScottK: Not sure. I'll read that bug report and see.
[17:50] <ScottK> Be prepared for a long read
[17:59] <ssd7> This seems like it /could/ be it.  I'm thinking I will have to just go and get a monitor connected to it so I can see what /etc/init.d/mountall.sh is actually saying on boot.
[18:15] <ssd7> Could it have something to do with this: iTCO_wdt: failed to reset NO_REBOOT flag, reboot disabled by hardware
[18:22] <ssd7> Also, the drive mounts fine on reboot.
[18:22] <ssd7> Just now when I poweroff and then boot it
[18:22] <ssd7> s/now/not
[18:23] <PrimusAvatar> Hello there, I'm having trouble installing ubuntu server edition 9.04 on my old computer (490MHz, 64MB-RAM, 10GB HDD) I't has a weird bug on the "Partition Disks" step. Instead of offering options its says "????"
[18:24] <PrimusAvatar> is it version related or does it have something to do with NTFS system?
[18:30] <W8TAH> ive got a server running 8,10 -- im having problems with lvm access -- and its got messages scrolling on the screen that start with ATA4.00
[18:30] <W8TAH> im guessing some kind of drive problem
[18:30] <W8TAH> anyone able to take a stab at the solution?
[18:31] <ScottK> PrimusAvatar: It's not going to run on 64MB of ram.
[18:33] <PrimusAvatar> it says 32mb is enouh :(
[18:33] <PrimusAvatar> enough*
[18:38] <ssd7> OK.  Well adding rootdelay=300 does nothing to help the situation.  But when fsck kick in for sda1 then the other drive mounts fine.  Otherwise it says ntfs-3g: Failed to access volume /dev/dist/by-uuid/<UUID>: No such file or directory
[18:38] <ScottK> PrimusAvatar: Where does it say that?
[18:39] <PrimusAvatar> on the "F1: Help" when i run the instalation
[18:41] <PrimusAvatar> besides, i ran a memory check and its says that it's fine
[18:42] <W8TAH> PrimusAvatar: memory check validates that your memory is functional
[18:42] <PrimusAvatar> ofcourse im aware that the recommended memory specs are ~190MB RAM but I'm aiming for the minimum requierments
[18:42] <W8TAH> PrimusAvatar: you are way under them
[18:44] <PrimusAvatar> oh, i guess i've been using wrong guides then... thanks anyway.
[19:00] <ssd7> well, adding sleep 5 to mountall.sh seems to be a temporary workaround
[19:01] <ssd7> ScottK: Thanks for the help.
[19:02] <ScottK> ssd7: You're welcome.  Please comment in the bug about your issue and how you worked around it.
[19:35] <jjjren_irc> Hello everybody. I just deleted an user account by mistake, is there any way that I can reinstate the account?
[19:39] <Hecate> jjjren_irc, man useradd.
[19:40] <jjjren_irc> Hecate thanks for the tip..
[19:42] <Hecate> youre welcome, if you need any further help, just let me know.
[21:18] <yann2_> nijaba , soren , one of you around?
[21:19] <yann2_> May 15 22:17:01 nancy kernel: Cannot read proc file system: 9 - Bad file descriptor.
[21:19] <yann2_> May 15 22:17:32 nancy last message repeated 4762658 times
[21:19] <yann2_> May 15 22:18:33 nancy last message repeated 9601836 times
[21:19] <yann2_> syslog killing my server i am worried /o\
[21:21] <yann2_> damn killing 6 months uptime :(
[21:32] <Yann2> dd         5017   root    0r      REG                0,3          0 4026531849 /proc/kmsg
[21:32] <Yann2> mmmh.
[21:58] <matt1211> If I have an external harddrive plugged into a router, how can I mount it on my ubuntu 8.4 server? I have been having trouble with this.
[22:25] <incorrect> mattt, fdisk -l should find you the drive
[22:25] <incorrect> then mount -t <fs type> /mnt/some mount point
[22:55] <ivoks> heh... ubuntu karmic desktop as it is now is way much better than jaunty was, at least for me
[22:55] <ScottK> What got better?
[22:56] <ivoks> xorg
[22:56] <ivoks> sqlite
[22:56] <incorrect> i want a wiki that encrypts its data on the hard drive, does anyone know of one?
[22:56] <ScottK> ivoks: Ah.  Makes sense.
[22:57] <ivoks> it's like a fresh air
[22:57] <incorrect> so the new xorg is already much better than 9.04?
[22:57] <ivoks> i have intel, so i don't know for others
[22:57] <ivoks> but, intel in karmic is - wow
[22:57] <ScottK> That's what I have too.
[22:57] <ScottK> Does bryce have the same stuff in his X PPA?
[22:58] <ScottK> I may have to try it.
[22:58] <incorrect> my desktop is really fast, its got a 8800 nv, my laptop has a nv quatro2go, its not to hot
[22:58] <ivoks> i used http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates/ubuntu
[22:58] <ivoks> but karmic is much better
[22:59] <ScottK> Hmm.  Ok.
[22:59] <incorrect> i wish 8.04 64bit worked with core i7
[23:00] <incorrect> oh well i guess all i really need to do is sync openldap
[23:15] <cellofellow> May 15 22:02:45 desertrats sshd[26492]: error writing /proc/self/oom_adj: Operation not permitted
[23:15] <cellofellow> what does that mean?
[23:16] <cellofellow> I get that when a friend tries to log in to ssh on my VPS.
[23:16] <cellofellow> I can log in just fine.
[23:16] <ivoks> someone had similar problem once
[23:17] <ivoks> anyting in /etc/security/limits.conf?
[23:18] <cellofellow> looking...
[23:18] <cellofellow> nothing but comments
[23:20] <ScottK> cellofellow: Password or public key?
[23:21] <cellofellow> pubkey
[23:21] <ScottK> What does your auth.log have to say about it?
[23:21] <cellofellow> I pasted the line from the log file.
[23:21] <ScottK> Which logfile?  /var/log/auth.log?
[23:21] <cellofellow> Before it was saying account locked but I put a password on it and that went away, but he still can't login, getting the oom thing.
[23:21] <cellofellow> yes
[23:23] <ivoks> http://groups.google.se/group/linux.debian.bugs.dist/browse_thread/thread/9f2d1a4334368dc8
[23:23] <ScottK> cellofellow: Might http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=473573 be relevant
[23:23] <ivoks> unset SSHD_OOM_ADJUST in /etc/default/ssh
[23:23] <ivoks> just comment it out
[23:24] <cellofellow> k
[23:24] <ivoks> and restart ssh
[23:25] <NativeAngels> hello ive setup proftpd but im gettin permisions error. the user can download files to a folder but when they want to upload them theyre getting a permisons error how do i fix this
[23:26] <ivoks> fix the permissions
[23:26] <NativeAngels> how do i set the right permisions
[23:26] <ivoks> good night ;)
[23:26] <NativeAngels> ok
[23:26] <ivoks> NativeAngels: well, add write permissions to the directory
[23:27] <ivoks> take care
[23:27] <cellofellow> ivoks: did that but he still can't get in.
[23:28] <cellofellow> same error
[23:28] <cellofellow> May 15 22:28:00 desertrats sshd[13629]: error writing /proc/self/oom_adj: Operation not permitted
[23:31] <phaidros> I try to make a quick backport using prevu (on hardy), but I cannot get 'prevu screen-profiles/jaunty' running ..
[23:31] <phaidros> I have added the jaunty deb-src to the sources.list, but "dpkg-source: error: cannot open .dsc file ./*.dsc: No such file or directory"
[23:31] <phaidros> shouldn't prevu go and fetch the .dsc by itself?
[23:39] <nfrs> I've got a weird situation with sshfs and fstab. will be grateful for any help. I've configured the mounting via the fstab. all seems to be well, except that my regular user can't access anything below the mount point (permission denied). this is weird, because "sudo stat" shows my user/group as owner
[23:40] <phaidros> -o allow_others .. not sure, but sounds like
[23:40] <nfrs> there's sensitive stuff on that FS, I don't want other users to access it
[23:41] <phaidros> or was this only an issue with fuse .. can'T remember ..
[23:41] <nfrs> I'm talking about fuse (sshfs)
[23:41] <phaidros> ah sure .. yes
[23:41] <nfrs> but allow_others doesn't fit
[23:41] <shipitkthx> i have Jaunty server running on a hosted VPS, and Jaunty desktop on my local system, is it possible to install Gnome on the VPS and remote desktop in?
[23:41] <phaidros> imho, it was allow_others, because some weird sshd stuff
[23:42] <phaidros> shipitkthx: I don't see why not :)
[23:42] <nfrs> phaidros: I don't want "others" to read my private keys that are stored on that FS
[23:42] <phaidros> nfrs: I understand that, but as far as I know (read from docs in the wiki/forums) a problem with fuse it is
[23:43] <phaidros> nfrs: try to sshfs with the username who should access the data later on.
[23:43] <phaidros> afaik it *must* be the same, if not even by uid
[23:43] <nfrs> what do you mean?
[23:43] <nfrs> set uid=xxx option?
[23:43] <nfrs> if yes, it's already set
[23:44] <shipitkthx> phaidros: i havent tried installing gnome on a system i dont have in front of me, should it be pretty straight forward over ssh?
[23:44] <phaidros> uh, not sure. just having ftpfs in mind, cannot remember sshfs fstab line, but isn't there #sshfs:user@host something?
[23:44] <nfrs> yes
[23:44] <phaidros> shipitkthx: u juast install the packages, how to access that later on I don't know
[23:44] <shipitkthx> ty
[23:45] <phaidros> nfrs: so the user who is mounting the sshfs is the same (by name & uid) locally and remote?
[23:45] <phaidros> thinking about it: setting uid might be an option as well ..
[23:45] <nfrs> phaidros: ah, I got your point. no, they are different in both
[23:46] <nfrs> hmm, I might really try it, who knows..
[23:46] <nfrs> I did set the uid
[23:46] <phaidros> nfrs: then I believe it is a fuse limitation which can only be circumvented by allow_others .. at least that was the result of my research these days :(
[23:46] <phaidros> or uid .. that I didn't try
[23:47] <nfrs> phaidros: I don't have admin rights on the remote server. but perhaps I can set up a stub user at my local machine with the same name and uid as remote
[23:47] <phaidros> nfrs: yep, I'd try that