[00:00] <Wicked> hello all. ive installed sun's java and changed the default java to use the sun version. ive also installed the sun java plugin....but firefox is still using the icetea version of java. how do i make firefox use the sun java plugin?
[00:00] <salvinod> can some one tell me the command to stop the x server please
[00:00] <DasEi> ghindo:sudo fdisk -l
[00:00] <leOn> piet: i did notice that sometimes the machine refuses to shitdown cleanly by itself, but getting unresponsive, i've only experienced it today
[00:00] <Jack_Sparrow> salvinod gdm stop ?
[00:00] <ldiamond> How do I load RAID drivers and mount the raid drives at boot? (I dont have to boot Ubuntu from the raid drive, just mount them automatically when I power up the machine)
[00:00]  * leOn laffs
[00:00] <Wicked> !java
[00:00] <DasEi> ghindo:identifier and filesystem-type ?
[00:01] <leOn> s/shitdown/shutdown/
[00:01] <leOn> =D
[00:01] <RUbuntuNooB> Good things come at a price, I guess. Still, no way i am going back to XP. Thanks for pointers, guys
[00:01] <Jack_Sparrow> salvinod hit clt-alt-f2, login. run  sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop. do your nivida stuff, using sudo. sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start to restart X . ctl-alt-f7 to get back to gui, if needed
[00:01] <Piet> leOn: not shutting down cleanly is probably another issue which is related to iwlagn.
[00:01] <leOn> i love those typos
[00:01] <sebsebseb> RUbuntuNooB: that's not  quite true
[00:01] <Piet> leOn: i thought so :)
[00:01] <ghindo> DasEi: Okay, I see.  I think I might be able to get it from here, thank you!
[00:01] <sebsebseb> RUbuntuNooB: a lot of good programs are  free as in price, but also freedom
[00:01] <sebsebseb> !freedom
[00:01] <witcher> i think i lost my helper lol
[00:01] <jtaji> RUbuntuNooB: you could always boot the livecd to test the video issue
[00:02] <RUbuntuNooB> i didnt mean price like money, heh.
[00:02] <Sagaci> Wicked: just install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[00:02] <RUbuntuNooB> I meant like you have to work for it
[00:02] <leOn> Piet: i must say that i got really impressed by all the user friendlyness on ubuntu ... but all these hickups are making me think twice about it
[00:02] <sebsebseb> RUbuntuNooB: for some stuff yeah
[00:02] <RUbuntuNooB> never paid for windows anyway))
[00:02] <leOn> Piet: i'm a long time debian user
[00:02] <Wicked> Sagaci, i have it installed. but firefox is still using icedtea
[00:02] <DasEi> ghindo: it is an ext fsystem, nor ?
[00:02] <sebsebseb> RUbuntuNooB: naughtey
[00:02] <kebomix> hello ., how to make gnome default instead of kde ?
[00:02] <witcher> opps sorry
[00:02] <sebsebseb> !piracy |  RUbuntuNooB
[00:03] <Jack_Sparrow> leOn Most hiccups can be avoided by purchasing known supported hardware
[00:03] <RUbuntuNooB> Oh, sorry. I live in russia
[00:03] <ghindo> DasEi: Yes, it's for an ext3 filesystem.  So should I just "fsck -V /dev/sdb1"?
[00:03] <Jack_Sparrow> kebomix do you have both installed now?
[00:03] <linxeh> I never paid for windows. it doesnt mean I obtained it illegally
[00:03] <DasEi> ghindo: first type : mount
[00:03] <RUbuntuNooB> No one fights software piracy here
[00:03] <sebsebseb> RUbuntuNooB: ok well  your meant to follow Ubuntu's rules, whatever countrey your in, when using this channel
[00:03] <kebomix> Jack_Sparrow: yeah :( ,
[00:03] <Jack_Sparrow> RUbuntuNooB Yes we do
[00:03] <DasEi> ghindo: make sure fs isn't mounted
[00:03] <Sagaci> linxeh: so you got it oem?
[00:03] <Piet> leOn: please install the linux-backports-modules-* package, unless you already have.
[00:03] <leagris> RUbuntuNooB, to ease suspend working, you may choose to significantly enlarge the swap partition
[00:03] <kebomix> Jack_Sparrow:  i just was trying kde
[00:03] <Jack_Sparrow> kebomix under option where you login
[00:04] <ghindo> DasEi: Nope, not mounted.
[00:04] <RUbuntuNooB> Alright
[00:04] <DasEi> ghindo: sudo e2fsck /dev/sdb1
[00:04] <linxeh> Sagaci: no, I got given it
[00:04] <sebsebseb> linxeh: yeah  true Microsoft give out  stuff for free as in price, to lock students in,   anyway
[00:04] <sebsebseb> !ot
[00:04] <Piet> leOn: this should fix some issues you're having with the iwlagn wireless driver
[00:04] <leagris> RUbuntuNooB, like 4x the RAM at least
[00:04] <kebomix> Jack_Sparrow:  yeah , i know , but kde is default , not gnome
[00:04] <leOn> Jack_Sparrow: you mean hardware that the manufacturer says "ubuntu is supported"  .. or just hardware that is known to work?
[00:04] <DasEi> ghindo: sudo e2fsck -p      /dev/sdb1  ,sry
[00:04] <epiro> diskin - thanks, man...yes its an old webcam
[00:04] <Guest50329> how come i cant hear my mp3s in banshee?
[00:04] <Jack_Sparrow> kebomix Same menu you can set the default
[00:04] <epiro> diskin . yes, i'm fallowing the instructions...
[00:04] <RUbuntuNooB> leagris:  wow, i thought 1.5 ram would be enough
[00:04] <epiro> diskin . :D
[00:04] <Piet> leOn: it could possibly also be the reason for the cpu issue. but maybe not. for sure it will be easier to tell once the one issue is gone.
[00:05] <RUbuntuNooB> i will give it a try
[00:05] <Jack_Sparrow> leOn Just hardware that is known to work
[00:05] <Sagaci> can't you just disable icetea via firefox?
[00:05] <ghindo> DasEi: Got it, thank you for your help :D
[00:05] <sebsebseb> Guest50329: you need mp3  codec installed.  in fact do this    sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras  that should take care of that :)
[00:05] <sebsebseb> and other things
[00:05] <Laurenceb> hi
[00:05] <mzz> leagris: why would you want more swap than you have ram for suspend?
[00:05] <Guest50329> is it a good codec? i dont want ym music to sound like crap
[00:05] <leOn> Jack_Sparrow: i had a laptop like that last week .. but guess what .. it was OLD! =)
[00:05] <Sagaci> !hi | Laurenceb
[00:05] <Laurenceb> I'm trying to run an xp application under wine
[00:05] <leagris> RUbuntuNooB, suspend to disk swap all RAM to the swap partition + some state metadata
[00:05] <Sagaci> what app?
[00:05] <Ttech[netbook]> Whats with the landscape advertising in Ubuntu 9.04? How do I shut it off
[00:05] <Laurenceb> err:comm:set_line_control ByteSize fixme:ntdll:server_ioctl_file Unsupported ioctl 1b000c (device=1b access=0 func=3 method=0)
[00:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Laurenceb /join #winehq
[00:05] <ror> Laurenceb, winehq is a good resource
[00:05] <Sagaci> !wine | Laurenceb
[00:05] <sebsebseb> Guest50329: well MP3 is not exactly a good format, but that's to off topic to get into here
[00:06] <Laurenceb> k
[00:06] <Jack_Sparrow> !appdb > Laurenceb
[00:06] <leagris> RUbuntuNooB, to that you have to add already used swap during runtime
[00:06] <mzz> leagris: I'm successfully suspending with a swap partition that's considerably smaller than my ram, although in hindsight I should've made it a bit larger.
[00:06] <Piet> leOn: https://bugs.launchpad.net/linux/+bug/200509 in case you want to read up on this
[00:06] <leOn> and that talk about having last years hardware in order to run linux properly is really not much in favour of linux
[00:06] <RUbuntuNooB> leagris: ok, i ll try that
[00:06] <RUbuntuNooB> thanks, bye
[00:06] <Jack_Sparrow> leOn Please stop
[00:06] <sebsebseb> Laurenceb: if  you care so much about sound quality, I highly recommend Flac
[00:06] <mzz> RUbuntuNooB: imho swap a bit larger than ram will work for the majority of cases (unless you're heavily swapping when you attempt to suspend, which shouldn't be common)
[00:06] <sebsebseb> Laurenceb: sent to wrong person
[00:07] <vsemenov> anyone ever managed to compile freedce on ubuntu?
[00:07] <leagris> mzz, sure, you may suspend to ram without swap at all or you may suspend to disk with little swap unless you inteed use very little ram
[00:07] <Edwardxp> What's Up!
[00:07] <sebsebseb> Guest50329: if you care so much about sound quality I highly recommend Flac,   yes  the files are bigger, but they sound very good,  and it's also an open format
[00:07] <leOn> Piet: thanks piet .. i decided to come here cause almost every post i saw was made by ubuntu users .. i'll try the backport modules as you sugested and i think i'll keep the vbox modules out of the equation for now too
[00:07] <mzz> leagris: do you regularly use significant amounts of swap? Because imho that's not common, unless the machine is annoyingly low on ram
[00:08] <sebsebseb> Guest50329: and Ubuntu has built in support for  OGG and Flac, just like  other Desktop Linux distros do
[00:08] <leagris> mzz, I often use wap beside I have 2Gb ram
[00:09] <mzz> leagris: yes, but more than a few MiB of swap?
[00:09] <leagris> mzz, running a laptop
[00:09] <Edwardxp> does anyone know a better ssh irc program ?
[00:09] <Edwardxp> besides irris?
[00:09] <leagris> mzz, sometimes more than 50% of my 4Gb swap
[00:09] <ror> ogg's dead though, in terms of portable players; and FLAC is too big for portables really :(
[00:10] <mzz> leagris: and performance is still acceptable? Odd, what kind of apps are you running that trigger that?
[00:10] <leagris> mzz, running WoW with wine
[00:10] <leagris> mzz, performance drop madly
[00:10] <mzz> WoW eats gigabytes of memory? I didn't know that
[00:10] <mzz> leagris: still, that won't hurt suspend unless you attempt to do it while WoW is running :)
[00:10] <Edwardxp> virtual memory at 8GB would be perfred for WoW
[00:10] <sebsebseb> ror: portable players, some have support
[00:10] <Edwardxp> that's what i think anyway..
[00:11]  * joeDeuce almost smashed his box with a hammer... removing jockey fixed it though :)
[00:11] <ror> very few have ogg support though, especially not out the box
[00:11] <Piet> leOn: if you're not currently using virtualbox, it sure doesn't hurt to remove the modules.
[00:11] <sebsebseb> ror: yeah well, because they are for profit companies, that like their propritary vender lock in formats
[00:11] <ror> but this is all rather OT
[00:11] <sebsebseb> ror: yep
[00:11] <leOn> Piet: yep, i'll blacklist them and insert them before firing it up, if i need it
[00:12] <Piet> leOn: i would also suggest that you boot up from a live cd and run a fsck.ext -f on all file systems belonging to your linux installation
[00:12] <Piet> leOn: that's since it can also be a FS issue.
[00:13] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Does anyone know if its possible to add a swap partition after install and still have hibernate work?
[00:13] <Lyth> Can I have a list of Ubuntu-compatible MMOs besides EVE?
[00:13] <leagris> Edwardxp, I have significant slowdowns on WOL new areas and the crawded Dalaran city. The laptop gfx card, slow disk swap don't help
[00:13] <Piet> leOn: if I get this correctly then the kernel is having an issue reading acquiring a lock state, which is often stored in a lock file.
[00:13] <jtaji> CoJaBo-Aztec: yeah sure
[00:13] <sebsebseb> CoJaBo-Aztec: you can add swap
[00:13] <CoJaBo-Aztec> How would that be done?
[00:14] <sebsebseb> CoJaBo-Aztec: partition editor on   Ubuntu Live CD
[00:14] <Sagaci> is there such a program like APTonCD except it's APTonUSB
[00:14] <kebomix> hello , the power button on top task bar disappeared after installing KDE ? !!! ,
[00:14] <sebsebseb> CoJaBo-Aztec: if you need to resize another partition first,  otherwise   sudo apt-get install gparted
[00:14] <ralmar> Hey guys. Does anyone know an easy solution for throttling the download and upload bandwidth of a NIC? I used to use "wondershaper", but now for some reason it doesnt work anymore. I can use the commands, but they have no actual effect. Thanks
[00:14] <usser> CoJaBo-Aztec, create a swap partition, with gparted, resize your existing one if you dont have enough space, then just do sudo swapon, you dont even have to restart
[00:14] <Piet> leOn: finally, if it still occurs, install memtest86+ and run it overnight.
[00:14] <leOn> Piet: i chose ext3 specially because i wanted it to be trust worthy
[00:14] <nisperuza> hhoe can I instal the ubuntulooks in my ubuntu 9.04
[00:14] <DasEi>  kebomix: right-click.. add...
[00:14] <jtaji> CoJaBo-Aztec: you'll want to add it to /etc/fstab though so it's used at every boot
[00:14] <coolkourt> how do i get rid of this free JRE 1.5 and get SUNS JRE to work with eclipse
[00:15] <jtaji> CoJaBo-Aztec: actually I guess swapon won't work if it's not in fstab anyway
[00:15] <Piet> leOn: good choice then
[00:15] <CoJaBo-Aztec> This system was created with only primary partitions, so no room for swap but I intend to fix that later on.
[00:15] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Is there anything special I need to do to re-enable hibernate then?
[00:15] <leOn> hmm .. linux-backports-modules-2.6.28-11-generic provides updated version for the iwlagn firmware
[00:16] <carpii> has the jaunty kernel bug been fixed yet, where it wont let you disable ipv6 ?
[00:16] <leOn> and also the 802.11 stack
[00:16] <Piet> leOn: luckily, yes
[00:16] <jtaji> leOn: you probably want to install linux-backports-modules-jaunty though, so it stays up to date
[00:17] <leOn> jtaji: better go for the meta package .. understood
[00:17] <unxuxu> Hi... How could I get my cpu fans working good on my laptop with battery manager? To get my fans working I need to set acpi=off for kernel initialization... but this command unable my battery admin...    Debian works great with this things, but Ubuntu is so better for my linux skills... I love it and I need it... LOL... thanks for any advice
[00:17] <jtaji> leOn: yeah it has solved problems on my thinkpad since intrepid
[00:18] <leOn> jtaji: on a thinkpad too
[00:18] <CoJaBo-Aztec> jtaji: Do you know what would need to be done to fix hibernate then?
[00:18] <leOn> t500
[00:18] <jtaji> t61
[00:18] <leOn> i had an r52 until last week =)
[00:19] <jtaji> CoJaBo-Aztec: I don't think you have to do anything... not positive
[00:19] <nisperuza> I NEDD THE UBUNTULOOKS TO UBUNTU 9.04
[00:19] <Sagaci> in synaptic, is there any way to help fill the screenshots of the packages, or is all that done by the developers
[00:19] <sebsebseb> !caps | nisperuza
[00:19] <nisperuza> WHERE CAN I DOWNLOAD
[00:20] <Kaie`> haha
[00:20] <sebsebseb> Sagaci: I think it's done by developers
[00:20] <Kaie`> i am actually unable to read lowercase
[00:20] <sebsebseb> Sagaci: Synaptic is pretty good yeah, but sudo apt-get install program :)
[00:20] <Declination> i have a dilemma with my microphone input. I have on of the Dells (m1330) that can pre-installed with Ubuntu. It comes with a mounted microphone array. For some reason, audio captured from the array is extraordinarily quite to the point that when I initially tested it, I thought it wasn't working even though every alsa/pulse slider I can find is all the way up. Does anyone know what might be wrong?
[00:20] <CoJaBo-Aztec> jtaji: I have done this on one other computer, and it appears that it looks for the swap by its GUID independantly of the /etc/fstab settings. I cannot find where this is set, and don't want to create another system that cant hibernate..
[00:20] <mzz> I'd tell Kaie` that must be really annoying, but he wouldn't be able to read it.
[00:20] <Lyth> Anyone know of any linux mmos
[00:20] <d-admin> I'm trying to do a dist upgrade from 8.04 to 9.04, but my system is not behaving as it says it would on the website
[00:20] <Kaie`> =]
[00:21] <Sagaci> sebsebseb: i know it seems quite minor but I think that would help new ubuntu linux users adapt quicker, just by having small screenshots
[00:21] <coz_> d-admin,  what is it doing?
[00:21] <kebomix> how to remove kde 4.2 complete remove ? :@
[00:21] <sebsebseb> d-admin: you can't just upgrade  8.04 to 9.04  you would have to go through 8.10 first
[00:21] <d-admin> it I know that
[00:21] <jtaji> CoJaBo-Aztec: dunno, I've never been in your situation
[00:21] <sebsebseb> !puregnome |  kebomix
[00:21] <Guest50329> well, when i had xp installed my music sounded much better for some reason, now i have ubuntu, and my music doesnt sound good, low bass, and so on
[00:21] <mzz> Lyth: iirc "eternal lands" is one
[00:21] <d-admin> but it kees saying that my system is uptodate, it wont even let me upgrade to 8.10
[00:21] <coz_> kebomix,   maybe sudo apt-get autoremove kde-desktop  ??
[00:21] <Lyth> thanks, anyone
[00:22] <DasEi> Guest50329: alsamixergui installed ?
[00:22] <Guest50329> whats that?
[00:22] <coz_> d-admin,  how are you upgrading   update-manager -d
[00:22] <Sagaci> run "update-manager -d"
[00:22] <sebsebseb> d-admin: you have to  change something so it will let you upgrade to 8.10
[00:22] <sebsebseb> d-admin: you have to tell it that you wan't non LTS releases as well
[00:22] <kebomix> the power button that connected with pidgin status disappeared ? any solution
[00:22] <d-admin> ok, what do I do that?
[00:22] <DasEi> Guest50329: a util to regulate volumeand even more showing correct soundcard(--driver)
[00:22] <sebsebseb> !upgrade |  d-admin
[00:22] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Does anyone know how (K)Ubuntu determines which swap partition to resume from hibernate so I can fix it?
[00:23] <Guest50329> so once i install that will it find my correct sound card and all?
[00:23] <sevodnya> d-admin: System > Software Sources > Updates > Release Upgrade -- this will need to be set to "Normal releases"
[00:23] <DasEi> Guest50329: sudo apt-get install alsamixergui
[00:23] <Sagaci> system > administration > software sources > updates tab > check for updates "normal releases"
[00:23] <Lyth> Does anyone know of any high quality MMOs for linux?
[00:23] <d-admin> thanks!
[00:23] <sebsebseb> Lyth: games?
[00:23] <DasEi> Guest50329: alsamixergui
[00:23] <Lyth> yes
[00:23] <d-admin> I think I fugured it out, I forgot about the LTS thing...
[00:23] <Trunkz> Lyth: Ragnarok Online
[00:23] <d-admin> thanks!
[00:23] <sevodnya> cojabo: I've run into this before, I recall having to edit /etc/fstab, let me see if I can dig up the directions for you.
[00:24] <DasEi> Guest50329: upper right corner > s-card listed correctly?
[00:24] <Sagaci> sebsebseb: i usually use cli to install packages now anyhow, but sometimes I prefer synaptic to just browse
[00:24] <sebsebseb> Lyth: 42 of the best  free linux games       42  of the best  commercial linux  games      search for that in google and you will get onto stuff
[00:24] <Guest50329> yeah i got sigmatel
[00:24] <sebsebseb> Lyth: also you could like search the history for a site such as linuxtoday.com and  find out what games articles they had
[00:25] <VCoolio> Hi, if I change blacklist.conf, does that take immediate effect or what command should I use?
[00:25] <CoJaBo-Aztec> sevodnya: I edited /etc/fstab, and swap works but hibernate fails to resume (still looks for the old GUID). If you can find instructions to fix that, I'd greatly apreciate it.
[00:25] <unxuxu> Anything about good acpi admin... ? I cant use cpu fans with ubuntu... acpi=off just put it turned on all the time... and my battery has no administration
[00:25] <s34n> I'm tried to start iptables automatically by placing a shell script in /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/
[00:25] <sebsebseb> Lyth: loads of good  Linux games out there as well,  you just need to know about them.    synaptic  has a few in there as well
[00:25] <sebsebseb> Sagaci: yep that's like me
[00:25] <kebomix> guys , wut is the name of the button on the top right corner that manager power ( restart - log out - shutdown ) and connected with pidgin status ?
[00:26] <s34n> but it doesn't execute the iptables script
[00:26] <Guest50329> wgar does this alsa mixer do
[00:26] <Guest50329> what*
[00:26] <s34n> what am I missing?
[00:26] <ralmar> Hey guys. Does anyone know an easy solution for throttling the download and upload bandwidth of a NIC? I used to use "wondershaper", but now for some reason it doesnt work anymore. I can use the commands, but they have no actual effect. Thanks
[00:27] <Azodon> welcome Bryan_01
[00:27] <s34n> ralmar: diffserv?
[00:28] <Sagaci> kebomix: notification area, user switcher, shut down
[00:28] <Bryan_01> tks Azodon
[00:28] <sevodnya> cojabo: Try "sudo update-initramfs -u"
[00:28] <Azodon> no problem
[00:28] <Piet> leOn: you may want to subscribe to this if you haven't already: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/376363
[00:28] <Renfield> I have a quick question. I'm trying to compile a program from source. It says it needs libcurl. I see that there are a number of packages with the name curl in them. Which one do I need?
[00:29] <Renfield> I tried just 'curl', and that wasn't enough.
[00:29] <ldiamond> How do I load RAID drivers and mount the raid drives at boot? (I dont have to boot Ubuntu from the raid drive, just mount them automatically when I power up the machine)
[00:29] <kirlyin> how do i add the "task bar" to a panel?
[00:29] <s34n> Renfield: aptitude search libcurl
[00:30] <s34n> Renfield: hopefully, there will be a package actually called libcurl
[00:30] <th0r> Renfield, you probably need the libcurl-dev package. Often when compiling you need the -dev for associated libs
[00:30] <VCoolio> kirlyin: right click panel, add to panel, search for window list
[00:30] <DasEi> ralmar: there might be better solutions, one is ethtool :  http://paste.ubuntu.com/172663/
[00:31] <Renfield> s34n: Yea! Why does that command show libcurl-dev, but apt-cache search libcurl doesn't?
[00:31] <kirlyin> oh there it is..thanks
[00:31] <mzz> Renfield: oddly enough there's no libcurl4-dev, and I'm not sure if you want libcurl4-openssl-dev or libcurl4-gnutls-dev, but I'm pretty sure you want one of them.
[00:31] <Renfield> I've been using apt-cache search, I thought that was the way to go.
[00:32] <th0r> Renfield, installing -devs that you don't need won't hurt anything, it will just take up a little disk space
[00:32] <Strife89> I have a quick question: I installed Ubuntu using Wubi; Ubuntu resides on a virtual disk on my physical hard drive. Inside Ubuntu, looking at System Monitor, it list my physical hard drive as "/host". Can I safely mount and use it?
[00:32] <Renfield> mzz: aptitude search libcurl shows me a libcurl4-dev. You think I should go with that instead of libcurl-dev?
[00:32] <s34n> what is the best practive for loading an iptables ruleset at startup?
[00:32] <panzor> hello, I"m running 8.04 and am having trouble getting recent nvidia drivers to work
[00:33] <mzz> Renfield: I wouldn't be at all surprised if both libcurl-dev and libcurl4-dev are just aliases for one of the two packages I mentioned.
[00:33] <sebsebseb> Strife89: no
[00:33] <mzz> Renfield: (I'm not in ubuntu currently, can't check)
[00:33] <panzor> s34n: I use /etc/rc.local
[00:33] <sebsebseb> Strife89: don't think so,  and Wubi is only good for trying Ubuntu,   woudn't normalley recommend it though for various reasons.   real partitions :)
[00:33] <kryle> whats the name of the ubuntu browser? natilius ?
[00:33] <sebsebseb> kryle: nautilus
[00:33] <mzz> sebsebseb: isn't it already mounted (on /host)?
[00:33] <kryle> thank you !
[00:33] <s34n> panzor: it seems like the /etc/network stuff was made for this purpose
[00:34] <mzz> err, wrong nick
[00:34] <mzz> Strife89: ^^^
[00:34] <s34n> panzor: but perhaps I'm misunderstanding
[00:34] <Renfield> mzz: When I try to install libcurl-dev it says I need to select the openssl or gnutls version.
[00:34] <Strife89> sebsebseb: Meh, I've been reluctant to repartition my new notebook's drive, but if that's the case, then.... :)
[00:34] <mzz> Renfield: heh.
[00:34] <mzz> Renfield: can't help you there, I don't know offhand which would preferable.
[00:34] <sebsebseb> Strife89: it's not hard to  do real partitions :)
[00:34] <panzor> s34n: I just add the lines that add rules to my rc.local and I don't think anything more of it. It works for me.
[00:35] <Strife89> sebsebseb: I know, but one partitioning job on an old desktop went rather badly, and I've been scared of partitioning since.
[00:35] <Renfield> mzz: I'm asking on the channel for the application I'm compiling.
[00:35] <sebsebseb> Strife89: yep most of us  experienced Ubuntu users, woudn't  normalley recommend wubi for  various reasons
[00:35] <Strife89> sebsebseb: On the other hand, that incident was three years ago.
[00:35] <sebsebseb> Strife89: what happended?  and I don't mind helping with partitining
[00:35] <bc_rich> do you know when brtfs will be available for ubuntu
[00:36] <sebsebseb> bc_rich: not any time soon
[00:36] <Strife89> sebsebseb: Actually, I think I later turned up some bad RAM on that system anyway.
[00:36] <mzz> bc_rich: don't hold your breath (the disk format wasn't even stable yet last time I checked)
[00:36] <panzor> Does anyone know how to manually update nVidia drivers enough to troubleshoot why mine won't work?
[00:36] <Strife89> sebsebseb: I know that my laptop has a recovery partition, though, and I'm nervous about blowing it.
[00:36] <mzz> sebsebseb: apart from the installer is it really that bad?
[00:37] <bc_rich> so what is the best failsystem out there I can use with ubuntu
[00:37] <sebsebseb> panzor: I'll  try to help a little.   First of all  old or new graphics card? and which version of Ubuntu?
[00:37] <mzz> Strife89: from what I've seen the ubuntu partitioner is pretty safe as long as you pay attention to what you're doing.
[00:37] <sevodnya> strife89: The latest installers make it very easy to leave recovery partitions and whatnot intact; my laptop has one still in place.
[00:37] <mzz> Strife89: (you don't have to be an expert to use it, iirc it gives a nice overview of what it's going to do before doing anything irreversible)
[00:37] <Strife89> mzz: Yeah, I've used it before. Way back with 7.04. :)
[00:38] <panzor> ubuntu 8.04, Quadro FX 570M (notebook version) currently running 169.12. This driver is over a year old and I want to upgrade due to the GPU getting way too hot.
[00:38] <sebsebseb> mzz: let's see it  puts itself inside Windows!   Does that answer the question?  :) :d   heh more seriously  if   windows is fragmented Ubuntu can get slow.   Wubi partitions can get currupted.   The bootloader  can  completly mess up.   Something really bad happens to  Windows, well bye bye Ubuntu as well.
[00:38] <Strife89> mzz: And that was on a machine that had a fudged-up partition table beforehand.
[00:38] <Bryan_01> do anybody know any Ubuntu Italian Channel ?
[00:38] <mzz> Strife89: the only thing I found not entirely trivial (using the 9.04 alt installer) was getting it to install no bootloader (I already have one)
[00:38] <Pici> !it | Bryan_01
[00:38] <panzor> sebsebseb: ubuntu 8.04, Quadro FX 570M (notebook version) currently running 169.12. This driver is over a year old and I want to upgrade due to the GPU getting way too hot.
[00:39] <jeniffer> hello boys. I would like to know what is the driver ubuntu uses for touchscreens....why is it autocalibrated? how Ubuntu can autocalibrate it?
[00:39] <mzz> sebsebseb: that's true, you're depending on windows leaving the file alone. I don't know all that much about wubi's boot loader setup.
[00:39] <sevodnya> Strife89: what bootloader did you have installed before?
[00:39] <Bryan_01> Grazie ubottu !!!
[00:39] <jeniffer> !evtouch
[00:39] <jeniffer> !touch
[00:39] <jeniffer> !screen
[00:39] <Strife89> sevodnya: What, on my old desktop or my laptop?
[00:39] <jeniffer> !calibration
[00:39] <kansan__> how do i make hardy see all 4GB of my ram (32bit version of ubuntu).... as opposed to the 3GB it currently sees
[00:39] <mzz> jeniffer: don't get too bot-happy, or open a private chat window with the bot
[00:40] <mzz> kansan__: that might not be possible without upgrading to a 64-bit kernel
[00:40] <sevodnya> Stife89: Sorry, wrong nick there.
[00:40] <panzor> kansan__: ubuntu uses the extra gig for the kernel, so it's not being wasted you just don't see it listed and you can't use it for regular things
[00:40] <sebsebseb> mzz: it  puts the  Windows bootloader on and edits it, so   Grub  can boot up Ubuntu,  but I been here when people coudn't  boot up either Windows or Wubi/Ubuntu
[00:40] <Strife89> sevodnya: Ah. :)
[00:40] <kansan__> mzz, should i run the 64 bit version of ubuntu instead or something?
[00:40] <jeniffer> mzz sorry for the inconveniences...how can i open a private window?
[00:40] <mzz> kansan__: I think I would with that amount of ram, but I haven't researched this, so don't just take my word for it.
[00:40] <kansan__> panzor, are you sure?
[00:40] <Strife89> Alright, I'll give it a go.
[00:41] <mzz> jeniffer: depends on your irc client. Try "/msg ubottu !evdev"
[00:41] <jeniffer> "/msg ubottu !evdev
[00:41] <mzz> jeniffer: sorry, without the quotes
[00:41] <panzor> kansan__: well, that's what I've heard and it's kept me from messing with PAE to get it to work. Google search PAE if you're not convinced.
[00:41] <kansan__> panzor, pae?
[00:41] <kansan__> i guess i should just google search ;p
[00:41] <sebsebseb> panzor: old graphics card?   Which type of?
[00:42] <panzor> sebsebseb: ubuntu 8.04, Quadro FX 570M (notebook version) currently running 169.12. This driver is over a year old and I want to upgrade due to the GPU getting way too hot.
[00:42] <jeniffer> mzz perhaps you know something about touchscreen drivers used bu ubuntu.....
[00:42] <sebsebseb> jeniffer: try pressing the name  of the person  you want to talk to
[00:42] <sebsebseb> !pm
[00:42] <coventry> The command "sudo tasksel install lamp-server" is failing with the message "tasksel: aptitude failed (100)".  It appears from http://tinyurl.com/pdnfem that this is a long-standing problem.  I tried the suggestion on that page to run "sudo dpkg --configure -a".  This did turn up a package problem, but fixing it so the dpkg command ran without errors did not correct the tasksel problem.  Any suggestions as to how to proceed?
[00:42] <ror> 32bit operating systems can surely only use 3Gigs of ram, hence 32 bits of addressing space??
[00:42] <jeniffer> panzor....related to slitaz?
[00:42] <ror> someone please correct me if I'm wrong
[00:42] <mzz> jeniffer: I really don't, sorry
[00:42] <jeniffer> sebsebseb thanks
[00:42] <panzor> jeniffer: Um...no?
[00:43] <super_hoops> i'm getting this error when i boot my pc "grub loading stage 1.5. grub loading please wait error 17"
[00:43] <CyPiNinja> There was this tool in gnome, When I plugged in a camera once it got automatically detected and could get my pictures off, But I'm on debian now, And I'm trying to get my pictures off.... So what was/is the name of the tool?
[00:43] <mzz> ror: 4, not 3, but it's complicated a bit by how physical ram gets mapped to virtual memory.
[00:43] <mzz> super_hoops: "error 17" is mapped to an actual error message in the grub manual.
[00:43] <sebsebseb> panzor: ok try this
[00:43] <DasEi> ror: up to four (without mod), but all ram are counting, like graphics and so on
[00:43] <sebsebseb> panzor: system > administaration > hardware drivers
[00:44] <mzz> super_hoops: looked it up for you: "Cannot mount selected partition", "returned if the partition requested exists, but the filesystem type cannot be recognized by GRUB."
[00:44] <usser_> CyberSix, digiKam on kde or fspot on gnome probably
[00:44] <ror> ok
[00:44] <sebsebseb> jeniffer: no problem
[00:44] <mzz> super_hoops: iirc that usually means the boot partition changed, and reinstalling grub is usually the quickest fix
[00:44] <javyn> heya
[00:44] <mzz> !grub | super_hoops
[00:45]  * ror hugs his 512MB of ram
[00:45] <panzor> sebsebseb: okay, then what
[00:45] <mzz> super_hoops: (the "boot partition" being the one grub itself is on, which may or may not be the same as your root partition)
[00:45] <sebsebseb> !ot | ror
[00:45] <javyn> i have a rather strange question.... will ubuntu running xubuntu-desktop run just as fast as just having xubuntu?  I ask b/c my laptop is running Ubuntu but is a bit slow due to graphic card limitations, and I'd like to see if Xubuntu-desktop will speed it up
[00:45] <sebsebseb> ror: heh :)
[00:45]  * CoJaBo-Aztec wonders if its a good idea to sacrifice the Dell utility partition in order to create a swap partition...
[00:45] <sevodnya> CyPiNinja: could also be gtkam
[00:45] <sebsebseb> panzor: anything availalbe?
[00:45] <sevodnya> cojabo: how big is your hard drive?
[00:45] <super_hoops> yeah the ubuntu partition was on the same hard drive as my XP install.  how do i go about re-installing grub?
[00:45] <CoJaBo-Aztec> sevodnya: 80GB
[00:45] <mzz> javyn: I think so (as long as you switch your session to it, obviously), but get a second opinion
[00:45] <amit> ok
[00:45] <panzor> sebsebseb: Yeah, it's the driver I'm currently using, the old one
[00:46] <mzz> super_hoops: see the "RestoreGrub" thing ubottu gave you
[00:46] <sebsebseb> panzor: maybe there isn't a later driver available
[00:46] <sebsebseb> panzor: also trying to install one yourself, can really go bad
[00:46] <mzz> super_hoops: iirc those instructions work for more than just windows overwriting it.
[00:46] <super_hoops> just spotted it :D cheers.
[00:46] <ldiamond> How do I load RAID drivers and mount the raid drives at boot? (I dont have to boot Ubuntu from the raid drive, just mount them automatically when I power up the machine)
[00:46] <panzor> sebsebseb: I know, it's not working
[00:46] <Guest54330> i installed alsamixer, but it says my card is pulse audio, which is not true, i think this is why my sound mp3s sound like crap right now, what can i do?
[00:46] <sebsebseb> panzor: what's the problem with the current?
[00:46] <sevodnya> cojabo: I mean, I've left 5GB for my swap, and I've never had a problem; how much room do you have to play around with between ubuntu and swap?
[00:47] <panzor> sebsebseb: It's over a year old and the GPU is getting to 80C
[00:47] <mzz> Guest54330: this is a feature I do not know how to work around without killing pulse completely, which may not be desirable.
[00:47] <sebsebseb> panzor: ok well that is probably a sign  to tell you that your hardware is failing
[00:47] <super_hoops> ok i'll go through that recovering ubuntu thing now and let you know how i get on. cheers guys :D
[00:47] <ralmar> dasei i dont think ethtool is what im looking for... its to set the speed of your ethernet like 100mbs 50 mbs.. full duplex, etc
[00:47] <panzor> sebsebseb: I dunno, it doesn't do this on windows that has the updated driver. That's why I want to update this one
[00:47] <CoJaBo-Aztec> sevodnya: I have a total of 10GB free, but only one primary partition entry left. The utility partition takes only 70MB, but uses up a partition table entry.
[00:48] <Kelwing> sevodnya: isn't 5GB a bit of overkill?
[00:48] <CoJaBo-Aztec> sevodnya: The problem is, I;m not certain what the utility partition does...
[00:48] <javyn> mzz:  thanks.  i'm not sure.  up until recently i've been a windows user, and i'd never ever have considered installing another desktop or window manager.  it would at best make my computer slow as hell, at worst crater the OS.  I'm not sure if Linux is the same way
[00:48] <sevodnya> guest54330: pulseaudio can occasionally cause problems, but I've never known it to cause sound degredation.
[00:49] <mzz> javyn: it's entirely possible to have three of them installed without them getting seriously in each others way. I don't know if the ubuntu install enables any system services that xubuntu doesn't, but those aren't too hard to disable if you find someone to give you a list.
[00:49] <sevodnya> kelwing: probably, but I've got a 200GB drive, and I'm barely using 35 for anything--I was just wondering why not having enough space for both swap and utility would be an issue on an 80 gig.
[00:49] <GillaGal> how do I set the region on a new DVD drive?  I've tried regionset and it didn't work.
[00:49] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Kelwing: I think for hibernete needs swap to be at least as much as RAM. I have 4GB, so my swap will also probably be about 5GB.
[00:49] <mord> jeniffer: in case you didn't find an answer yet, google for tslib and pointercal and you're bound to find loads of examples
[00:49] <sebsebseb> panzor: nividas  stupid nivida driver  in  stupid .bin format,   with it being a bit of a pain to install those,  and then xorg messing up maybe/probably.   I am not that sure what to do anyway,  but tried stuff like this before,  no  fun at all.     Anyway  stick around and someone else will probably help.
[00:49] <mzz> Guest54330: other possibilities include: wrong sound driver used (not that likely), you using a media player with a configured equalizer before
[00:50] <javyn> i put xubuntu and kubuntu desktops on my desktop computer.  xubuntu rocks but kubuntu is crap imo.  i think xubuntu would be great on my laptop.  xfce is nice
[00:50] <mzz> CoJaBo-Aztec: it'll suspend with less swap than ram as long as not all ram is used for anything but disk cache.
[00:50] <javyn> no offense to kde fans, but you know, each his own
[00:50] <Guest54330> whats a good equalizer/
[00:50] <Guest54330> ?
[00:50] <panzor> sebsebseb: Oh, I have no problem installing. The darn thing just won't work! haha. I'm thinking about compiling my kernel with it somehow...I dunno.
[00:50] <sebsebseb> panzor: yeah .bins are a pain to install
[00:50] <leagris> Each time I hibernate or suspend, I have to reload the sound drivers to regain sound at wake up
[00:51] <sebsebseb> panzor: you got to make them executable and stuff
[00:51] <panzor> sebsebseb: Not really, just sh <file>.bin
[00:51] <CoJaBo-Aztec> mzz: What will happen if theres not enough?
[00:51] <leagris> Is there a workaround for that?
[00:51] <mzz> CoJaBo-Aztec: I've had it fail somewhat messily (attempt to suspend, then give up halfway through and restart, thrashing heavily)
[00:52] <mzz> CoJaBo-Aztec: err, resume, not restart.
[00:52] <panzor> sebsebseb: you only need to do chmod +x if you do ./<file>.bin -- "sh <file>.bin" should work without x rights
[00:52] <jeniffer> mord thank you very much....
[00:52] <mzz> CoJaBo-Aztec: the "thrashing heavily" part of it was somewhat annoying, but it was easy enough to recover (just kill some apps and try again)
[00:52] <sebsebseb> panzor: if I remember correctly you need to use commands yes, but   you can't have a GUI  when running
[00:52] <super_hoops> ok i'm stuck already lol.  it says type "find /boot/grub/stage1...i get the error like it says i might.  so i put in find /grub/stage1 and i get the same error 15. file not found. any ideas?
[00:52] <CoJaBo-Aztec> I should have planty of space, so I think I could spare 4GB or so for swap on this computer just in case..
[00:52] <sebsebseb> panzor: alt  f7 or whatever it was
[00:52] <sebsebseb> panzor: for the shell
[00:52] <javyn> damn it, uninstalling kubuntu-desktop removed virtualbox
[00:53] <DasEi> !info iprelay | ralmar
[00:53] <javyn> i hope it didn't delete my VM
[00:53] <Kelwing> sebsebseb: is it you or panzor that is having a problem?
[00:53] <jeniffer> mord i asked about the driver ubuntu uses to calibrate the touchscreens, because i have been trying to do that by hand in another distro....not debian based.... I love ubuntu, but is too heavy for the hardware i have
[00:53] <sebsebseb> Kelwing: panzor
[00:53] <mzz> super_hoops: where are you typing this, exactly? In a grub running inside ubuntu, or in a grub running natively?
[00:53] <andresj> hey, is there a way to play a specific YouTube video in Totem? I have the URL, but I can't find the video w/ the search box in Totem (Movie Player).
[00:54] <kirlyin> is there a ubuntu ver of the logitech keyboard manager? or is there one built in?
[00:54] <Kelwing> panzor: what is your problem? i joined after you had asked
[00:54] <super_hoops> i'm opening the terminal and rubbing it inside ubuntu
[00:54] <DasEi> ralmar  : http://www.inliniac.net/blog/category/traffic-shaping
[00:54] <sebsebseb> jeniffer: for to heavy for the hardware you have?  does  the touch screen even work in Ubuntu?
[00:54] <mzz> super_hoops: hmm, sec
[00:55] <super_hoops> sorry for being a pain :)
[00:55] <mzz> super_hoops: I just haven't had to mess with grub recently
[00:55] <jeniffer> sebsebseb yes! it works perfectly...it is autocalibrated (i use this expression because i dont konw what else call it)
[00:55] <mzz> super_hoops: trying to remember if you have to mount your root partition inside ubuntu first
[00:55] <sebsebseb> jeniffer: ok good
[00:55] <sebsebseb> :)
[00:56] <mzz> super_hoops: actually, can you just try that? exit that grub prompt, make sure your partition is mounted (you can see /media/whatever/boot/grub/stage1), then try grub again
[00:56] <DasEi> ralmar  : wondershaper might also work
[00:56] <Guest54330> how come ubuntu says i only have 1 gig of ram when i have more
[00:57] <mzz> Guest54330: that sounds like you're using a kernel without high memory support for some reason
[00:57] <Guest54330> how can i fix that
[00:57] <mzz> Guest54330: which is odd, because the generic one has CONFIG_HIGHMEM=y. What kernel is this?
[00:57] <mzz> Guest54330: ("uname -a" will tell)
[00:58] <mord> jeniffer: hmm. i'm currently running jaunty on a n810, i wonder what h/w you have that is too slow for ubuntu :) anyway, i don't think the calibration is done by a driver per se, at least on my n810 i just get the /etc/pointercal values from nokia-tablets-pointercal. i suppose there are at least good guesses for most of the more common touchscreens somewhere out there
[00:58] <Guest54330> type that in terminal?
[00:58] <Kelwing> Guest54330:  Try also moving your RAM around to different slots.  I had this problem with my server, and that resolved it
[00:58] <mzz> Guest54330: yes
[00:58] <jeniffer> ubotu se esta poniendo brutico....no sabe nada de lo que le pregunto
[00:58] <Guest54330> im on a laptop i only have two slots ans there both used
[00:59] <mzz> Kelwing: I'm optimistically assuming this is a software problem, since I'm much better at fixing those :)
[00:59] <Guest54330> Linux amit-laptop 2.6.28-11-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 17 01:57:59 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[01:00] <jeniffer> mord i have been trying with evtouch, but i havent been able to calibrate it... the pointer is never under my finger
[01:00] <doc``> i have some problem running a 32 bit java jdk, i installed ia32-sun-java6-bin but thats just JRE cant find a 32bit jdk
[01:00] <mzz> Guest54330: ok, so the obvious guess is out. Can you pastebin dmesg (try "dmesg|pastebinit", you may have to apt-get install pastebinit first)
[01:01] <Kelwing> mzz: It's a good idea to try a fix as harmless as mine before you go doing a lot of hard work
[01:01] <smerz> doc check the package manager
[01:01] <mzz> super_hoops: I have no idea what "merged them together" means in partition magic. Also, please stay on the channel, but include my nick.
[01:01] <raving> Is there a way to bounce off the CD into a USB-Key based installation?
[01:01] <smerz> the jdk can be found in there
[01:01] <mzz> Kelwing: I must admit I also assumed the ram worked before (in a different os) so I'm glad you reminded me of the hardware side of things
[01:02] <Kelwing> raving: why not just do a pure usb key install?
[01:02] <Kelwing> raving: no usb booting support?
[01:02] <Guest54330> whats the command that goes before apt-get
[01:02] <raving> Kelwing: yep
[01:02] <mzz> Guest54330: "sudo", perhaps?
[01:02] <raving> Kelwing: it's pretty old hardware, from 2002 or so
[01:02] <smerz> Guest54330: normally "sudo" as in superuser do
[01:03] <Kelwing> raving: It is possible, I remember one was distributed with Slax
[01:03] <sebsebseb> Guest54330: sudo apt-get install program
[01:03] <mord> jeniffer: have you tried ts_calibrate and then stuffing the values to /etc/pointercal?
[01:03] <Kelwing> raving: I'll go see if I can find one for you
[01:03] <mzz> raving: it's quite possible to get a linux kernel + initramfs from the cd and everything else off the usb stick, but that doesn't help if most of the installer is in initramfs, which it might be.
[01:03] <super_hoops> mzz: sorry, new to all this lol.  basically when i installed ubuntu it was supposed to go to the G: partition that i'd created...but for some reason it created a new partition i: and installed to that but it only created a partition large enough to install linux and not enough to actually install any updates etc.  so i formatted both G & i partitions and joined them together to form one G partition. this is what has caus
[01:03] <super_hoops> ed all the problems.
[01:04] <jeniffer> mord noup, i did not know ts_calibrate.... i will google for it! thanks a lot!
[01:04] <mord> jeniffer: np
[01:04] <Kelwing> raving: try this: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-boot-cd-for-ubuntu-810/
[01:04] <jeniffer> mord good bye!!!
[01:04] <raving> Kelwing: thanks, i'll check it out
[01:04] <mzz> raving: I don't know how possible it is to get the kernel + initramfs from usb through the cd's bootloader (before booting a linux kernel)
[01:04] <Guest54330> mzz: http://pastebin.com/f70243d66
[01:04] <Kelwing> mzz: I know it is possible, I used one at my school for Slax
[01:04] <mzz> super_hoops: "formatted both G & I partitions" sounds like "erased all of linux" to me
[01:04] <raving> mzz: if it doesn't work, it doesn't work, but if it does, that'll be great
[01:04] <mzz> super_hoops: am I missing something?
[01:04] <raving> Kelwing: that looks like exactly what i need
[01:05] <super_hoops> i think i may have yes.  but its messed up my dual boot so i can't even get into windows now to back stuff up for a complete fresh install.
[01:06] <Kingsy101> can someone tell me what this error means when making an archive.....
[01:06] <Kingsy101> An error occurred while adding files to the archive.
[01:06] <Kingsy101> (null)
[01:06] <cfedde> is there a way to load the nbr packages to a netbook that was upgraded using the update manager?
[01:06] <mzz> Guest54330: it really only sees 1 GiB (and it's a highmem-enabled kernel alright). Does the bios see all ram (during its boot time scan for example)?
[01:06] <norris> fx
[01:06] <CiPHER_> Can someone please help me fix my mouse problem on jaunty,Ive tried for two days now...Googling 100 topics did not work. The mouse randomly jumps across the screen and clicks
[01:07] <Kingsy101> after you click ok the archive still seems to be there and seems to be intact
[01:07] <Kelwing> cipher: are you on a laptop?
[01:07] <dsabecky> CiPHER_: What kind of mouse do you have? (Ball, Thumb, Optical, Laser, Trackpad)
[01:07] <mzz> super_hoops: if your ubuntu partition is still there you should be able to mount it through the livecd. If you can not or if that partition is now empty you'll have to reinstall ubuntu (or run the "repair" option from a windows install cd to get windows to boot again)
[01:08] <Guest54330> how can i check?
[01:08] <Guest54330> just in bios?
[01:08] <CiPHER_> dsabecky:ps2 ball mouse,2 buttons and a scroll button in the middle made by HP
[01:08] <mzz> Guest54330: I would check if the bios sees all ram, because if it doesn't it's highly unlikely the os is going to
[01:08] <Guest54330> ill brbr
[01:08] <CiPHER_> Kelwing:No im not
[01:08] <Kelwing> Cipher: does it act normally in other operating systems?
[01:09] <CiPHER_> Kelwing:It operated lovely under windows which I just wiped off my HDD
[01:09] <CiPHER_> Kelwing:Ive tried just about EVERYTHING,lol...
[01:09] <super_hoops> mzz: so it's just fixboot and fixmbr that i run in the xp recovery?
[01:09] <mzz> super_hoops: those would make windows boot again, iiuc.
[01:10] <mzz> super_hoops: if you did indeed format all linux partitions you've lost grub and would have to reinstall to get it back
[01:10] <smerz> CiPHER_: never heard of that :( sorry. maybe try using it as USB or PS2 (whatever you're using, try the other)
[01:10] <smerz> i suppose you use PS2 mouse correct?
[01:10] <CiPHER_> smerz:I tried that
[01:10] <Kelwing> CiPHER_ do you have any other mice around and you can try?
[01:10] <CiPHER_> smerz:yes,ps2
[01:10] <smerz> same effect ?
[01:11] <smerz> it's the same on usb ?
[01:11] <CiPHER_> Kelwing:let me check
[01:11] <super_hoops> mzz: yeah i just wanna get into windows so i can back everything up then format and just go full linux instead of messing with both os'
[01:11] <Kingsy101> does anyone have an idea about my issue ?
[01:12] <mzz> Kingsy101: how are you archiving, exactly?
[01:12] <mzz> Kingsy101: this sounds like a bug in the error reporting of the archiver
[01:12] <CiPHER_> smerz:well,I think I tried that,I edited the xorg.conf file if thats what your talking about
[01:12] <smerz> CiPHER_: try a different mouse additionally you could try a ps2->usb adapter
[01:13] <CiPHER_> smerz:The thing is this mouse works fine,except for when it jumps across screen clicking randomly
[01:13] <mzz> CiPHER_: bad hardware can do that because of how the ps/2 protocol works. If the mouse also supports usb switching to that will fix it
[01:13] <CiPHER_> Kelwing:No I dont
[01:13] <CiPHER_> mzz:Ok,how do I switch to USB
[01:14] <CiPHER_> mzz:File editing?
[01:14] <mgmuscari> does anybody know how to check whether compiz is using direct rendering?
[01:14] <norrisg1> Hello, i will help people with problems with ubuntu, edubuntu, and kubuntu
[01:14] <smerz> adapter or a 5$ mouse :(
[01:14] <mzz> CiPHER_: (I've had a ps/2 trackball do the same thing under windows (occasionally spazzing out with the pointer zooming around between the corners of the screen, occasionally clicking stuff in the process))
[01:14] <lstarnes> mgmuscari: if direct rendering is enabled it should work.  try glxinfo | grep ^direct
[01:14] <mzz> CiPHER_: it depends on the hardware. If the mouse supports it just finding a ps/2 -> usb adapter and plugging in through that will fix it.
[01:14] <mzz> CiPHER_: (please keep in mind ps/2 is *not* generally hotpluggable, although usb is)
[01:14] <CiPHER_> mzz:ahh..I dont have an adapter :(
[01:15] <norrisg1> Anyone here need help
[01:15] <smerz> I had a KVM that would work fine using PS2 mice under windows. but not in linux. so linux apparently is more sensitive here
[01:15] <Enissay> How can i list the content of "/" with size?
[01:15] <Kelwing> CiPHER: along with what mzz said, this happens with old/well used hardware.  I have not really found a fix for this.  Hopefully you do.
[01:15] <CiPHER_> Kelwing:Yes,this has stumped everyone Ive spoken with and ive yet to see this problem before,lol
[01:15] <mzz> CiPHER_: there's a kernel option that may mitigate the problem somewhat. I haven't found a good page describing this, but http://www.idevelopment.info/data/Unix/Linux/LINUX_ErraticMouseBehaviorwithMouseFedoraandBelkinKVM.shtml is close.
[01:16] <Kelwing> CiPHER_: If you try another mouse it would help us rule out ubuntu being the problem
[01:16] <smerz> Enissay: via GUI or commandline?
[01:16] <CiPHER_> Kelwing:Let me try to find one
[01:16] <Cryp\ict_Donkey> Gos is cool
[01:16] <mzz> CiPHER_: (I'm talking mainly about the psmouse.resetafter kernel parameter, but please read the entire page for some background on the problem)
[01:16] <sevodnya> enissay: Applications > Accessories > Disk Usage Analyzer gives you a graphical breakdown, if that would help
[01:17] <Enissay> smerz, commandline
[01:17] <smerz> hang on
[01:17] <Enissay> sevodnya, thanks :)
[01:17] <Guest65233> nm mzz i always had 1 gig lol im a idiot
[01:17] <mzz> CiPHER_: (it's triggered by single bytes being dropped between the mouse and the computer, so it does probably happen more with old hardware with a slightly bad cable or connection)
[01:18] <smerz> there are 2 commands enissay, one to see filesystem usage and one to see the size of all subfolders etc (essentially the size of the location you're in)
[01:18] <Kelwing> CiPHER_: so time for a new mouse
[01:18] <leagris> Enissay, with cmd line use: du -skh /*
[01:18] <CiPHER_> Kelwing:trying another one now
[01:18] <smerz> du is for filesystem usage
[01:18] <mzz> Guest65233: it's possible you have more but it's not all accessible because of some hardware issue. But as long as the bios doesn't see all of it you're almost certainly wasting your time debugging the os.
[01:18] <smerz> and for folder content size i use "du --max-depth=1 -m -c -x . | sort -n -r"
[01:19] <smerz> that gives you the sizes in order and in megabytes
[01:19] <smerz> and total at the end
[01:20] <karl_> can somebody help me? i have a problem with a via driver
[01:20] <smerz> karl_: just state your problem. I most likely wont be able to help but just state your issue
[01:20] <Kelwing> mzz: did he try my suggestion?
[01:20] <Kelwing> mzz: for the ram
[01:21] <CiPHER_> Kelwing:other mouse seems to be working fine
[01:21] <norrisg1> karl_ i help you in IM
[01:21] <mzz> Kelwing: iiuc he only has the two slots to work with (laptop hardware) so reseating isn't much of an option (beyond swapping them around to verify they both work)
[01:21] <Kelwing> mzz: swapping actually fixes it sometimes
[01:21] <mzz> Guest65233: ^^^
[01:21] <Kelwing> mzz: you'd be surprised
[01:22] <mzz> Kelwing: hardware issues have long ago ceased to surprise me
[01:22] <norrisg1> Karl_ i will help you with your via driver problem to my best extent , i im you
[01:22] <Wiseguy> hey guys, im trying to get my broadcom 4306 chipped wireless card working... im trying to use fwcutter right now but when i try and scan with iwlist, it doesnt list anything.. my dmesg looks like this: http://rafb.net/p/tApOO678.html
[01:22] <Confused19> I could use some help if someone can provide it
[01:22] <norrisg1> ok
[01:22] <soreau_> How can you re-enable Ctrl+Alt+Bkspc in Jaunty?
[01:22] <mzz> !dontzap | soreau_
[01:22] <lstarnes> !dontzap | soreau_
[01:22] <Kelwing> mzz: same, i try everything because some of the oddest things fix problems.
[01:22] <mgmuscari> soreau_: i'd be interested in knowing that too
[01:23] <norrisg1> confused19 i will help you i just sent a IM to you
[01:23] <soreau_> mdeslaur: ubottu just said how to do it
[01:23] <mgmuscari> hmmm
[01:24] <Paddy_EIRE> Wiseguy: Is that an integrated chipset (laptop)?
[01:24] <Enissay> smerz, 5130    ./var  => what do that mean?
[01:24] <mgmuscari> how about alt=sysrq+REISUB
[01:24] <Kelwing> Confused19: Just ask your questions and someone will help you if they can.
[01:24] <boot_loop> does anyone have a link to a block of html code that would make a whois form on my website? I want the form to access the whois client on my webserver and send the user to a page that displays the result of the query.
[01:24] <mgmuscari> that's alt+sysrq
[01:24] <smerz> Enissay: /var is 5130 megabytes large if you used my command
[01:24] <smerz> Enissay: around 5 GB
[01:24] <Enissay> waaaaa
[01:24] <mgmuscari> boot_loop: you'll need a server-side script for that. php maybe?
[01:25] <mzz> Kelwing: come to think of it, I have personal experience with that ram reseeating (fun nvidia board with a picky "dual channel" memory controller)
[01:25] <Enissay> is it normal?
[01:25] <mzz> boot_loop: you'd need serverside scripting for that
[01:25] <mzz> heh, sorry mgmuscari, I don't bother to read, obviously
[01:25] <smerz> Enissay: my /var is 700 mb
[01:26] <Enissay> I have ~9GB for / and there  s no free space there.... cant understand why!!!
[01:26] <smerz> well /var is using 5 GB
[01:26] <smerz> go into /var and run my command again
[01:26] <mzz> Enissay: you may want to change that --max-depth a little so you can see what in /var is using up space.
[01:26] <smerz> it'll tell you
[01:26] <mzz> Enissay: and/or cd into /var, yes.
[01:26] <Wiseguy> Paddy_EIRE, no, it is a linksys pci card
[01:26] <lstarnes> Enissay: a lot of stuff is installed in directories under /
[01:27] <boot_loop> mgmuscari: ok thanks I will look into it...
[01:27] <Enissay> [01:27] <smerz> Enissay: there you go :D
[01:28] <mgmuscari> boot_loop: no problem.
[01:28] <karl_> i have a msi  mainboard, PM8M-V,   iget the error screen isn't compsited. please run comiz (-fusion) or another compositing manager, i installed compiz, but i do something wrong i think
[01:28] <xub2303> http://pastebin.com/m3e6faa76
[01:29] <grkblood13> i keep getting this error about mmsh protocol when i try to listen to online radio station and synaptic cant seem to find a package, any1 knwo a fix?
[01:29] <smerz> grkblood13: my favorite has got to be vlc. try that
[01:29] <norrisg1> (quit: "quit" ).
[01:29] <smerz> grkblood13: sudo apt-get install vlc
[01:30] <grkblood13> i have vlc
[01:30] <Enissay> smerz, i found some files there of 1.1GB xD
[01:30] <grkblood13> i was looking for soemthign to fix the default
[01:30] <mikeh789> anybody here have a slingbox??
[01:30] <Enissay> smerz, your command gives folder only
[01:30] <norrisg1> Anyone need some help?
[01:30] <smerz> Enissay: possible yeah
[01:31] <Wiseguy> hey guys, im trying to get my broadcom 4306 chipped wireless card working... im trying to use fwcutter right now but when i try and scan with iwlist, it doesnt list anything.. my dmesg looks like this: http://rafb.net/p/tApOO678.html
[01:31] <karl_> i have a msi  mainboard, PM8M-V,  iget the error screen isn't compsited. please run comiz (-fusion) or another compositing manager, i installed compiz, but i do something wrong i think
[01:32] <sevodnya> karl: when do you get this error?
[01:32] <Enissay> smerz, I have 2 files of 1.1GB each: syslog, kern.log   ....  what are they?
[01:32] <Kelwing> Wiseguy: are you using 9.04? They added a lot of support for broadcom cards in 9.04.
[01:32] <lstarnes> Enissay: log files
[01:33] <smerz> Enissay: system log and kernel log, normally these are only kept for 1 week. so they should not grow to 1.1GB
[01:33] <Dr_Willis> A 1 gb log file?
[01:33] <Dr_Willis> that seems... odd... where they at exactly Enissay ?
[01:33] <owned> mikeh: I have 2 set up in my house
[01:33] <karl_> AWN starts
[01:33] <Enissay> at /var/log location
[01:33] <karl_> compiz config also doesn't work
[01:34] <Kelwing> karl_: have you installed your video card drivers?
[01:34] <karl_> i don't think so, but witch one are they
[01:35] <[esde]> ok so i have gnome-power-manager appearing twice, i kill one, but it keeps coming back, Ubuntu Netbook Remix 9.04
[01:35] <Kelwing> karl_: go to System->Administration->Hardware Drivers
[01:36] <karl_> yes
[01:36] <karl_> nothing there
[01:36] <Kelwing> karl_: what video card do you have?
[01:36] <karl_> it is a onboard
[01:36] <Kelwing> karl_: what model is your system?
[01:37] <karl_> i don't know witch one. the mainboard is MS-7104
[01:38] <[esde]> ok so i have gnome-power-manager appearing twice, i kill one, but it keeps coming back, Ubuntu Netbook Remix 9.04
[01:38] <sevodnya> karl_: can you run "lspci|grep VGA" in a terminal and give us the results?
[01:38] <Enissay> I have also 3files of 379MB each: kern.log.0, syslog.0 messages.0 and afile of 973MB : messages x_x
[01:38] <flashblind> karl_:
[01:38] <flashblind> |pastebin |kar
[01:39] <norrisg1> ch
[01:39] <flashblind> |pastebin | karl_
[01:39] <[esde]> !pastebin | kar
[01:40] <norrisg1> bye bye
[01:40] <Azodon> my favorite program to run in a terminal is cmatrix
[01:41] <taylor> Kelwing, we just installed 9.04 on my daughter's Dell inspiron 1501, which has the broadcom bcm4401-b0. we also went to this web site, http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php, to get the driver. They only support bcm4311, 4312, 4321, and 4322. Dose this mean thar rhere is no support for my wifi?
[01:41] <tonytraductor> cmatrix RULES!
[01:41] <smerz> Enissay: if you have logs cycling enabled. so you got messages, messages.0, messages.1 ... messages.6 and your logs are still 1.1GB on those first files you may wanna have a look in these logs as to why they are so big
[01:41] <tonytraductor> other terminal programs I like (and am running as I type) irssi/irc client, and lynx-text web browser
[01:42] <karl_> nothing appears
[01:42] <ldiamond> I have compiled a driver, I need to load it when ubuntu boots. How can I do that?
[01:42] <wombatunder1> I'm trying to get my mobile broadband adaptor to work in ubuntu 8.04. I have been trying to follow a few different threads in the ubuntu forums however I think I'm missing something and it's not working. Could someone please single chat with me to try to help me fix the problem?
[01:42] <Pici> !ppagpg | Justin10ec
[01:43] <Kelwing> taylor: try this: http://www.broadcom.com/support/ethernet_nic/4401.php
[01:43] <sevodnya> taylor: I'm running on a 1501 here, incidently; I'm running 8.10 here, but I was able to use Hardware Drivers to install wireless support.
[01:44] <Kelwing> sevodnya: it looks like his card isn't completely supported yet.  Hes going to have to set it up manually
[01:44] <Dub-T> Any good dj software for ubuntu?
[01:44] <Kelwing> Dub-T: have you looked at Ubuntu Studio?
[01:45] <smerz> taylor: check this thread: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/broadcom-bcm4401-drivers-43214/
[01:45] <smerz> it should have some info on this
[01:45] <Dub-T> Yea, but thats really just Ardour
[01:45] <LjL> !good | Dub-T
[01:46] <devindersingh> Hi
[01:46] <devindersingh> I have set up ubuntu with two network cards
[01:46] <devindersingh> LAN and WAN
[01:46] <sevodnya> kelwing: I'm running on an identical machine here, in 8.10, and it works beautifully if you install the driver through System > Administration > Hardware Drivers; I would be surprised if that's no longer the case uner 9.04.
[01:46] <b1n42y> hi all, evolution calendar is freezing up any ideas ?
[01:46] <devindersingh> what i want to do is that i need the Ubuntu machine to connect to a HTTP proxy server
[01:47] <smerz> b1n42y: works like a charm for me :(
[01:47] <devindersingh> so that LAN users when they browse the net
[01:47] <Enissay> smerz, everything freeze when trying to open it xD.... how to disable what you called "log cycling"?
[01:47] <devindersingh> would be taken directly to the proxy server
[01:47] <devindersingh> and
[01:47] <foxbuntu> devindersingh, thats no problem
[01:47] <devindersingh> i dont want them to set any proxy on the Browser
[01:47] <devindersingh> how can i do that
[01:47] <Kelwing> sevodnya: you have a different card.  Some broadcom cards are supported, some aren't.  Hes tried installing through Hardware Drivers already.
[01:47] <b1n42y> smerz: worked great for me also for the last 8 mths, very upset
[01:47] <smerz> Enissay: log cycling is something you want. for the moment you can just delete the biggest files (or all of em)
[01:47] <Kelwing> sevodnya: I have a broadcom card too.
[01:47] <Dr_Willis> devindersingh:  i recall a 'transparent proxy' howto ages ago for that sort of thing.. (but ive never used it)
[01:48] <devindersingh> Hi Dr
[01:48] <smerz> Enissay: but i suggest reading the logs once they build up again. could be some issue with your system
[01:48] <devindersingh> can you let me know what needs to be configured on the Ubuntu
[01:48] <foxbuntu> devindersingh, sudo nano /etc/envrionment
[01:48] <devindersingh> yesterday i tried to install squid on the ubuntu
[01:48] <b1n42y> !evolution
[01:48] <foxbuntu> devindersingh, then add this line http_proxy=http://proxy-url
[01:48] <Enissay> smerz, is it safe?
[01:49] <smerz> Enissay: /var/log yes
[01:49] <Enissay> ^^
[01:49] <smerz> as long as you stay within /var/log !!!!
[01:49] <devindersingh> but i still need to enter the IP address of the Ubuntu WAN
[01:49] <devindersingh> realy thats all
[01:49] <devindersingh> wow
[01:49] <devindersingh> Hi FOx
[01:49] <smerz> Enissay: but theres a chance that something is going wrong continuously, thats why you should have a look into the newly written logs
[01:49] <devindersingh> is that all not tother settings
[01:50] <smerz> Enissay: i'm thinking disk failures etc
[01:50] <kirlyin> whenever you do sudo apt-get <fill in the blank> and after you get it, you have to update right? is the command updatedb?
[01:50] <foxbuntu> devindersingh, thats all you need, just set that, then logout and back in and you'll be set
[01:50] <smerz> kirlyin: after you use sudo apt-get install program. there is no need for updatedb
[01:50] <devindersingh> how about IP tables any setings to add to IP tables
[01:50] <smerz> kirlyin:  updatedb reads all files in your filesystem for fast searching using the command locate
[01:51] <foxbuntu> devindersingh, for a user to access the web via a proxy? nope.
[01:51] <smerz> it creates a database of all files on your harddisk
[01:51] <devindersingh> instead od proxy URL can i add the proxy server IP address and port number
[01:51] <devindersingh> 202.75.62.230:62001
[01:51] <kirlyin> ok, so what do i do when it says it can't find the newly downloaded file?
[01:51] <devindersingh> i dont know the proxy URL
[01:51] <Wall975> Hello
[01:51] <foxbuntu> devindersingh, yup, that will be fine
[01:52] <devindersingh> ok thanks Fox
[01:52] <devindersingh> ill give a try now and get back soon
[01:52] <Jack_Sparrow> kirlyin How was it downloaded, with firefox or other
[01:52] <smerz> kirlyin: you mean a newly downloaded program correct? not a file
[01:52] <kirlyin> program your right sorry
[01:52] <Wall975> hello
[01:52] <kirlyin> no i used a terminal
[01:52] <Jack_Sparrow> kirlyin what are you trying to install or run
[01:53] <Kelwing> kirlyin: wget?
[01:53] <kirlyin> g15daemon
[01:53] <Jack_Sparrow> kirlyin Have you looked in our repos to be sure we dont already have a version
[01:53] <sevodnya> kirlyin: you downloaded g15daemon using apt-get, yes?
[01:54] <kirlyin> sudo apt-get g15daemon
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[01:54] <Jack_Sparrow> kirlyin sudo apt-get install g15daemon or something right
[01:54] <kirlyin> and it started the download
[01:54] <kirlyin> ya but theres a difference between install and get...right?
[01:54] <josephseraos> poxa... não to conseguindo fazer o emesene,nem o amsn conectar
[01:54] <beilabs> anyone here have much luck with jaunty and vodafone wireless broadband?
[01:55] <Jack_Sparrow> kirlyin sudo apt-get install g15daemon  would do what you wanted
[01:55] <Jack_Sparrow> kirlyin you should be able to find it in /var/cache/apt/archives and dbl click it
[01:55] <smerz> apt-get install <insert program here> most of the time downloads and install a program. this can be different for services/servers though
[01:55] <Devinder> hi fox
[01:56] <Devinder> the proxy url is already there
[01:56] <[esde]> ok so i have gnome-power-manager appearing twice, i kill one, but it keeps coming back, Ubuntu Netbook Remix 9.04
[01:57] <sevodnya> esde: does power management work correctly other than this?
[01:57] <[esde]> yes
[01:57] <kirlyin> g15daemon is already the newest version.
[01:57] <[esde]> its just annoying having two icons
[01:57] <kirlyin> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[01:57] <Devinder> Foxubuntu hi
[01:58] <Devinder> i just checked what u had told me and the proxy url is already set thee
[01:58] <Devinder> in /etc/environment
[01:58] <[esde]> sevodnya:
[01:58] <[esde]> yes
[01:58] <[esde]> its just annoying having two icons
[01:58] <Devinder> but when i browse from the LAN
[01:58] <Devinder> i still dont get across the proxy server
[01:58] <Jack_Sparrow> !info g15daemon
[01:59] <Dr_Willis> Screen multiplexer  - NOW thats a fancy term....
[01:59] <smerz> what does it mean? :D
[01:59] <Dr_Willis> that dosent really tell much does it.. :)
[01:59] <Dr_Willis> It lets apps share the display
[01:59] <ryan_> wuchu talkin bout willis
[01:59] <th0r> [esde], try deleting them both, log out, log in, and see if you get one or two (or none)
[01:59] <Dr_Willis> I got a G15 - it works decently well with those tools
[01:59] <[esde]> i used "kill 27419" and it seems to have worked now.
[02:00] <kirlyin> i actually have the g11, but no lcd screen on the keyboard, big deal, i just need the g-keys to work
[02:01] <TheGhost> salut
[02:02] <simmerz1> hi. when i installed jaunty netbook remix, it installed the i686 version. why didn't it install lpia?
[02:03] <TheGhost> hey can u help  i dont know how to install my ATI under backtrack 4
[02:03] <TheGhost> ?
[02:06] <svensko> anyone here use the minimal CD install? I have a few questions
[02:06] <Sagaci> !ask | svensko
[02:07] <svensko> doh, i should know better than that Sagaci
[02:07] <simmerz1> hi. when i installed jaunty netbook remix, it installed the i686 version. why didn't it install lpia?
[02:08] <sevenseeker> ubuntu 9.04, Xvfb, headless, Mesa: attempting to run with 32 bit color depth does not work, any suggestions?  (/usr/bin/X11/Xvfb :10.10 -screen 10 1600x1200x32 -ac -br -kb -c -fbdir /var/tmp/) No useful message and no log available to help troubleshoot
[02:08] <mikeh789> NBR 9.04 was slow on me eee... anybody know how to speed it up??
[02:08] <svensko> if one installs ubuntu using the minimal CD install, then installs gnome through aptitude, does it install the default brown ubuntu theme?
[02:08] <svensko> mikeh789, try a minial CD install
[02:08] <ryan_> mikeh789: which model eee doy ou have
[02:09] <Dr_Willis> svensko:  if you install 'ubuntu-desktop' it should
[02:09] <cesarino> Hi mainbord pm8m-v, system test is ok, with awn manager i  get a error to config compiz fusion
[02:09] <mikeh789> 900
[02:09] <ryan_> hmm
[02:09] <svensko> mikeh789, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1155961
[02:09] <svensko> and then run XFCE
[02:09] <ryan_> im on my 1000he right now, UNR runs decently fast
[02:09] <Dr_Willis> UNR runs ok on my AcerAspireOne
[02:09] <ryan_> maybe consider upgrading the memory
[02:10] <judget_> well i tried Jaunty but too many issues on my system Im gonna  go back to hardy
[02:10] <svensko> i use vanilla 9.04 on my acer aspire one without complains
[02:10] <svensko> even had compiz doing its voodoo
[02:10] <mikeh789> gnome runs fine, even in 9.04
[02:10] <cesarino> Hi mainbord pm8m-v, system test is ok, with awn manager i  get a error to config compiz fusio
[02:10] <svensko> are you trying to use KDE?
[02:10] <judget_> well it seems that i keep gettin xserver issues with several apps
[02:10] <judget_> im using gnome
[02:10] <svensko> sorry, mikeh789, are you trying to use KDE?
[02:10] <judget_> totem keeps crashing
[02:10] <simmerz1> guys, are you running lpia UNR?
[02:10] <judget_> so does ekiga
[02:10] <BorkedAlsa> can anybody recommend a guide or something to get alsa working correctly
[02:10] <simmerz1> or i686?
[02:11] <taylor> Kelwing, thanks for the pointer. From what i read the broadcom driver, bcm4401, should already be in the 2.6 kernel. So why was it not recognize?
[02:11] <judget_> the video seemed better on Jaunty but too many other issues like also gspca
[02:12] <BorkedAlsa> does anybody here have alsa working the way it's supposed to?
[02:13] <cesarino> Hi mainbord pm8m-v, system test is ok, with awn manager i  get a error to config compiz fusio
[02:13] <mikeh789> KDE and default gnome both seem fine with 9.04, just the NBR interface was VERY slow...
[02:15] <DasEi>  BorkedAlsa: yes
[02:15] <svensko> ah mikeh789, isn't it possible to disable it?
[02:16] <Dr_Willis> cesarino:  you need to find out what video card you are using, and either enable compiz for it, or figure out why compiz iswent working.. or use some other compositing window manager
[02:16] <BorkedAlsa> DasEi: what did you have to do? I can't even begin to get JACK to play nice while I'm depending on OSS and Pulse all the time
[02:17] <dtchen_> BorkedAlsa: just disable pulse, then.
[02:17] <DasEi> !alsa | BorkedAlsa
[02:17] <taylor> how to check if kernel 2.6 has broadcom module already installed?
[02:17] <BorkedAlsa> I tried that last install and I was left with only OSS
[02:17] <dtchen_> BorkedAlsa: versions of pulse and jackd that play well via dbus aren't yet ready
[02:17] <wombatunder1> how do I use "make install"?
[02:17] <dtchen_> BorkedAlsa: huh? it's fairly straightforward even if you're using Ubuntu.
[02:18] <DasEi>  BorkedAlsa: which soundcard ?
[02:18] <ldiamond> I need to load a driver at boot (insmod pathtomydriver). How do I do that ?
[02:18] <judget_> I have to admit that this was an upgrade from intrepid to jaunty that may nhave not gone all that well
[02:18] <BorkedAlsa> m-audio fast track USB
[02:18] <mikeh789> anybody using a sling box??
[02:18] <koshari> wombatunder1 it needs to bu run with root permissan, you may want to look into checkinstall, it makes it easier to remove the binary
[02:18] <BorkedAlsa> worked great in hardy, intrepid took a lot of work but at least ALSA was out-of-the-box OK
[02:19] <koshari> mikeh789:  what is it
[02:19] <dtchen_> BorkedAlsa: 1) touch $HOME/.pulse_a11y_nostart ; echo "autospawn = no" >> $HOME/.pulse/client.conf ; killall pulseaudio
[02:19] <DasEi> !who | BorkedAlsa
[02:19] <koshari>  taylor: lsmon
[02:19] <Kelwing> koshari: its a way to transmit your DVR to any computer.
[02:19] <mikeh789> streams TV over network..
[02:19] <koshari> taylor sorry, lsmod
[02:19] <c0ntract0r> please tell me that there is an undelete function for mounted harddrives
[02:19] <BorkedAlsa> dtchen: one sec
[02:20] <Dr_Willis> !undelete
[02:20] <Dr_Willis> c0ntract0r:  good luck with that...
[02:20] <koshari> mikeh789 oh like vlc?
[02:20] <mrwes> heh Doc
[02:20] <wombatunder1> koshari, I don't know what it is. I'm trying to install a driver for a huawei E169 and the USB Modeswitch ?program? says to use "Make Install".
[02:20] <Dr_Willis> c0ntract0r:  it MIGHT be in the .trash-*** dir on the hard drive
[02:20] <Kelwing> koshari: its a physical box you hook up to your TV
[02:20] <c0ntract0r> ok thx Dr_Willis i will check
[02:21] <wombatunder1> koshari I'm following this http://www.dbe.cc/?p=36
[02:21] <Kelwing> mikeh789: what is your problem?
[02:21] <c0ntract0r> this is on an ntfs partition by the way
[02:21] <jim__> c0ntract0r: I've recently had VERY good result from foremost.
[02:21] <mikeh789> NO its proprietary... some new update has made the slingplayer break in wine...
[02:21] <koshari> wombatunder1 make install is a command used as part of build essentual to create a binary from source.
[02:21] <jim__> c0ntract0r: on an ntfs partition which was then formatted with ext3.  Still recovered 100+ word docs.
[02:21] <wombatunder1> hmmm
[02:21] <mrwes> valuable alias: alias rm='rm -i'
[02:21] <DasEi>  BorkedAlsa: lspci | grep audio          >output ?
[02:21] <mrwes> :)
[02:21] <Kelwing> mikeh789: have you tried installing it?
[02:22] <ldiamond> I need to load a driver at boot (insmod pathtomydriver). How do I do that ?
[02:22] <Kelwing> mikeh789: reinstalling*
[02:22] <BorkedAlsa> dasei: 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801CA/CAM AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
[02:22] <mikeh789> yeah...
[02:22] <c0ntract0r> i just deleted some folders and must've caught the wrong ones as well. OMG all my recorded stuff
[02:22] <Dr_Willis> ldiamond:  theres a modules file, or load it from rc.local
[02:22] <mattyb> Has anyone here successfully gotten ICS setup?
[02:22] <koshari> wombatunder1 what ubuntu are you using?
[02:22] <mikeh789> I have cruncheee on an sd card that I haven't updated in months, and it still works there...
[02:23] <taylor> lsmod shows that b44 is installed in the kernel. Is there anything special i have to do to get it to work?
[02:23] <Dr_Willis> mattyb:  some 7+ yrs ago.. yes :)
[02:23] <ldiamond> Dr_Willis, I tried adding insmod mydriver in rc.local, didnt work
[02:23] <wombatunder1> I'm using 8.04
[02:23] <Dr_Willis> mattyb:  i followed the ip-masquerading howto back then in the befor ubuntu days
[02:23] <homeskillet> wireless stopped workin on mylaptop on my wlan. it wont even show a list of wireless networks and 'enable wireless' is dimmed. any idea why?
[02:23] <Dr_Willis> ldiamond:  use modprobe
[02:23] <Dr_Willis> ldiamond:  becuse it should work if you can do it via the command line
[02:23] <mattyb> I need to set up a wired connection to use the wireless connection's internet, but the Ubuntu Wiki page is outdated.
[02:23] <mrwes> Dr_Willis, I remember running IP masq in Slakwarze :)
[02:23] <mattyb> has anyone done this recently?
[02:23] <Dr_Willis> ldiamond:  be sure to put it befor the 'exit(0)' command
[02:24] <ldiamond> Dr_Willis, how do I see error messages from rc.local script?
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> mrwes:  :) i did it with DIALUP to share my whole lan to the dialup modem.. other pc;s would nmake the server dialup the isp
[02:24] <Kelwing> mikeh789: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=3136
[02:24] <mrwes> Dr_Willis I was on a dial-up too
[02:24] <mrwes> heh
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> ldiamond:  never noticed, you could make thecommand pipe output to some file. or check dmesg.
[02:24] <BorkedAlsa> dtchen: maybe I'm missing something in the command you mentioned because I'm getting no process killed
[02:24] <wombatunder1> homeskillet: I had a laptop that would do that, it turned out all that was needed was to push the wireless network card on/off switch
[02:24] <mrwes> 56K modem! woowoo
[02:24] <Kelwing> mikeh789: the newest version is listed as garbage
[02:25] <Kelwing> mikeh789: at least the beta
[02:25] <mikeh789> yeah, i was using the older one 1.5
[02:25] <homeskillet> wombatunder1 i dont have a wireless nic card on/off switch on my laptop afaik
[02:25] <Kelwing> mikeh789: try downloading 2.0 from the slingbox website
[02:26] <wombatunder1> homeskillet: I'm sorry, I don't know what else then :-(
[02:26] <mikeh789> Kelwing: I tried that today
[02:26] <wombatunder1> koshari: I'm using Hardy, 8.04
[02:26] <mikeh789> Kelwing: I get a dot net install error
[02:27] <Kelwing> mikeh789: the new version uses the .net framework?
[02:27] <chetnick> Anybody using VLC on Jaunty?
[02:27] <DasEi>  chetnick: yes
[02:27] <mikeh789> Kelwing: said it was optional, but the installer failed with out it
[02:28] <eseven73> !anyone
[02:28] <Kelwing> mikeh789: are you using the slingplayer linux script?
[02:28] <mikeh789> Kelwing: could be another issuer, and thats the message its throwing
[02:28] <DasEi>  BorkedAlsa: if you rise alsamixergui, is your card shown correctly ?
[02:29] <Wall975> Hello
[02:29] <mikeh789> Kelwing: basically what I did was like the script....
[02:29] <kingsofleon> Has anyone used the Ubuntu One service yet?
[02:29] <kingsofleon> nd if so, what do you think?
[02:30] <Kelwing> mikeh789: Well, people seem to be having a lot of issues with version 2.0.  I'm seeing mixed results posted on the wine appdb.
[02:30] <codename> Hey is it possible to triple boot?
[02:30] <codename> well I know it is
[02:30] <codename> But would it be a pain
[02:30] <Kelwing> mikeh789: Can you use 1.5 without updating?
[02:30] <mikeh789> will Ubuntu One be as large as I need??
[02:30] <codename> I wanted to triple boot Sabayon, Vista and Ubuntu.
[02:30] <lstarnes> codename: not much more than a dual boot
[02:31] <mikeh789> Kelwing: I'm not going to update cruncheee until I find another solution
[02:31] <Wall975> Hi
[02:31] <Kelwing> mikeh789: well, I can't seem to find a definite solution.
[02:31] <BorkedAlsa> dasei: well now I'm getting this from alsamixer    ALSA lib pulse.c:272:(pulse_connect) PulseAudio: Unable to connect: Connection refused
[02:31] <mikeh789> Kelwing: its not the wine update either
[02:31] <Kelwing> mikeh789: ya, it's version 2.0 of slingplayer
[02:32] <dtchen> BorkedAlsa: use asoundconf set-default-card
[02:32] <Kelwing> mikeh789: are you using ubuntu 9.04?
[02:32] <mikeh789> Kelwing: 8.10
[02:32] <BorkedAlsa> dtchen: done
[02:33] <mikeh789> Kelwing: I haven't tried it in 9.04, and I will
[02:33] <devindersingh> hi
[02:33] <dtchen> BorkedAlsa: did you also use those other commands i gave you?
[02:33] <Kelwing> mikeh789: 9.04 is worse
[02:33] <devindersingh> how can i forward all request from LAN to an external proxy
[02:33] <devindersingh> i have Ubuntu with two NIC
[02:33] <devindersingh> WAN and LAN
[02:33] <Kelwing> mikeh789: All tests for 9.04 have been listed as garbage
[02:33] <Kelwing> mikeh789: Slingplayer 2.0 seems to not work with wine much at all
[02:33] <devindersingh> when users accesss from LAN on Browser they shoud go to a proxy server
[02:33] <mikeh789> Kelwing: great
[02:34] <kebomix> my network blocked torrent , how to get around that , i need to download torrent file ?
[02:34] <BorkedAlsa> dtchen: the command to kill pulse reported nothing killed
[02:34] <Kelwing> mikeh789: All test results are either bronze or garbage
[02:34] <Jack_Sparrow> kebo offtopic
[02:34] <mikeh789> Kelwing: I'm fine with 1.5, I prefer it...
[02:34] <dtchen> BorkedAlsa: good
[02:34] <Kelwing> mikeh789: Sticking with 1.5 looks like your best option
[02:34] <homeskillet> how can i try to force my laptop to find and connect to my wireless router?
[02:34] <dtchen> BorkedAlsa: did you follow the directions for "asoundconf set-default-card"?
[02:35] <homeskillet> it's not doin it automatically any more
[02:35] <mikeh789> Kelwing: if I can get it working again
[02:35] <DasEi> BorkedAlsa:but you choosed alsa from the preferences tab?
[02:35] <c0ntract0r> If I don't have any audio programs open etc, what would cause me to not be able to unmount a hd drive?
[02:35] <BorkedAlsa> dtchen: yes "asoundconf set-default-card Track"
[02:35] <sevodnya> homeskillet: can you see the network in the network manager?
[02:35] <macman> can you create a primary parition with inside a extended parition ?
[02:35] <dtchen> BorkedAlsa: does "speaker-test -c2" work as expected?
[02:36] <Kelwing> mikeh789: there is a tutorial on winehq.org if you can't remember where you found one the first time
[02:36] <BorkedAlsa> dtchen: lemme see
[02:36] <mikeh789> Kelwing: I got it all saved locally
[02:36] <RHorse> uh oh
[02:36] <Kelwing> mikeh789: alright, good luck.
[02:36] <homeskillet> sevodnya no
[02:36] <mikeh789> Kelwing: thanks
[02:36] <DasEi> BorkedAlsa:and then.. I wonder you said usb ? is it internal orusb ?
[02:37] <BorkedAlsa> dasei: usb
[02:37] <sevodnya> homeskillet: can you run "sudo iwlist scanning" in a terminal and see whether the network appears?
[02:37] <homeskillet> sevodnya and 'enable networking' is checked but 'enable wireless' is dimmed and uncheckable
[02:37] <Enissay> i wanna install a fresh version of jaunty, i have 3 partitions: / /home and swap... so i can keep my /home location.... can i keep my theme also? -GNOME-
[02:37] <sevodnya> homeskillet: nvm that last one then
[02:37] <DasEi> BorkedAlsa:lsusb | grep audio
[02:37] <BorkedAlsa> dtchen: i got Playback open error: -111,Connection refused
[02:37] <devindersingh> hi
[02:37] <devindersingh> has anoone set up ubuntu machine with two niC
[02:37] <homeskillet> sevodnya it says the network is down and the interface doesnt support canning
[02:38] <DasEi> devindersingh: yes
[02:38] <devindersingh> all LAN connection HTTP would be forwarded to a proxy servr IP
[02:38] <devindersingh> Hi Das
[02:38] <dtchen> BorkedAlsa: sudo fuser -v /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*
[02:38] <BorkedAlsa> DesEi: ok was that supposed to return anything?
[02:38] <sevodnya> homeskillet: how about "iwconfig"
[02:39] <RHorse> just installed dsl what a nifty lil os
[02:39] <jeremy_> my computer keeps restarting by itself
[02:39] <DasEi> BorkedAlsa:hoped so, just lsusb itself ?
[02:39] <homeskillet> sevodnya for wlan it says a lot of stuff essid:"", etc
[02:39] <jeremy_> i have ubuntu version 8.10
[02:39] <jeremy_> i have no clue whether its hardware or software related
[02:39] <BorkedAlsa> dasei: the device is listed Bus 001 Device 019: ID 0763:2010 Midiman M-Audio Fast Track
[02:40] <devindersingh> hi DasEi can u assist on this
[02:40] <sevodnya> homeskillet: does your laptop have a hardware switch for the wireless card?
[02:40] <charles__> what program do you guys use to connect to a cisco via serial?
[02:40] <jeremy_> i have no clue on what to do
[02:40] <homeskillet> sevodnya doesnt seem to
[02:40] <jeremy_> >.<
[02:41] <jasonmchristos> anyone in here have experience using replicator?
[02:41] <BorkedAlsa> the thing that kills me is that when using OSS sound test works fine
[02:41] <Justin10ec> Has anyone had any problems with laptops overheating? It seems my laptop gets very hot when running Ubuntu (9.04) but not when running Vista.
[02:41] <chetnick> Does anybody have full screen controls in VLC on Jaunty?
[02:42] <JaredK> you say your laptop gets hot when running ubuntu but not windows?
[02:42] <JaredK> that is really weird
[02:42] <hobophobe> I have a 1 gb usb thumb drive, trying to install unr.  it always says there are two corrupt files, but the live boot works fine: can I somehow complete the install over the network or something?
[02:42] <Justin10ec> JaredK: Yeah, it is.
[02:42] <jeremy_> whenever it does this restarting, a screen pops up saying "no drivers found"
[02:42] <joeDeuce> Justin10ec: my hdd gets real hot on my laptop, but the processor stays cooler than with XP for me
[02:42] <JaredK> oh
[02:42] <JaredK> I see
[02:42] <RHorse> Justin10ec have a lap cooler
[02:42] <chetnick> i had that issue with IBM Thinkpad t42 and Feisty. The fan was always on, and the computer was getting hot.
[02:43] <BorkedAlsa> DasEi: do you think it might be a more practical use of my time trying to get JACK and OSS to play together until Karmic comes out?
[02:43] <JaredK> yeah
[02:43] <Justin10ec> joeDeuce: How can I check the temperature?
[02:43] <JaredK> in bios
[02:43] <jeremy_> could somebody please help me? >.<
[02:43] <sevodnya> homeskillet: could you specify what model or driver your wireless card is?
[02:43] <RHorse> Justin10ec acpi
[02:43] <Justin10ec> RHorse: ?
[02:43] <JaredK> do you know how to get in the bios?
[02:43] <eseven73> Justin10ec, lmsensors or something like that
[02:43] <eseven73> there's some apps, you don't have to use bios
[02:43] <RHorse> acpi -t
[02:43] <JaredK> you should always be able to see the fan speeds and tempurtures in the bios
[02:44] <HikeTech> Anyone know why nautilus stopped remembering window sizes? Every time I resize, the next window I open resets to the default.
[02:44] <JaredK> there are also tools for linux
[02:44] <RHorse> dont be a ninnie
[02:44] <jeremy_> ~_~
[02:44] <JaredK> I think you might be able to find out in command prompt to but I don't remember how :)
[02:44] <DasEi> devindersingh: don't crosspost
[02:44] <eseven73> JaredK, apt-cache search sensor maybe
[02:44]  * JaredK loves linux!
[02:45]  * RHorse doesn't care
[02:45] <hobophobe> Or is there a channel specific to netbook remix that I can ask?
[02:45] <DasEi> BorkedAlsa:asoundconf list       >output ?
[02:45] <Justin10ec> RHorse: It doesn't seem hot now, right now I'm getting:      Battery 0: Full, 100%
[02:45] <Justin10ec>      Thermal 0: ok, 41.0 degrees C
[02:45] <Justin10ec>  . What temperature should I start getting worried at?
[02:45] <jeremy_> ...
[02:45] <sevodnya> homskillet: also try "sudo ifconfig wlan0 up" where wlan0 is the name of your wireless card as reported by iwconfig/ifconfig
[02:46] <Justin10ec> jeremy_ What do you need help with?
[02:46] <joeDeuce> I think 41 is fine Justin10ec
[02:46] <homeskillet> sevodnya that says 'SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such device'
[02:46] <jeremy_> my computer keeps restarting
[02:46] <rahduke> hi, im trying to boot to a ubuntu 9.04 live CD and it keeps hanging and dropping me into busybox
[02:46] <bc> is there an easy way to turn the network manager applet in the gnome panel notification area on and off easily? i can run nm-applet --dm-disable, but there is no manpage and I have no idea if there is a 'turn back on' option. :)
[02:46] <Justin10ec> joeDeuce: It's not hot right now, next time it gets reallyhot I'll check the temperature.
[02:46] <RHorse> Justin10ec mine's 43 which is about the temp of las vegas. It's fine
[02:46] <rahduke> can someone help me out"?
[02:46] <osiris> anyone else having problems accessing samba shares from jaunty
[02:46] <eseven73> Justin10ec, that's nothing mines 54 C most of the time, but of course my lappy is 5 years old too
[02:46] <jeremy_> Justin10ec: i am running ubuntu 8.10
[02:46] <joeDeuce> Justin10ec: oh ok :)
[02:47] <Justin10ec> jeremy_ What about ubuntu 8.10?
[02:47] <jeremy_> Justin10ec: when it restarts, i get an error message that pops up "drivers not found"
[02:47] <jeremy_> Justin10ec: it keeps restarting over and over again at random times
[02:47] <RHorse> Justin10ec get a lap cooler
[02:47] <Justin10ec> jeremy_ I'll try to find something real quick.
[02:47] <joeDeuce> !reiserfs | joeDeuce
[02:47] <jeremy_> Justin10ec: i have no clue whether its hardware or software related >.<
[02:47] <jeremy_> Justin10ec: i have all the drivers for this machine
[02:47] <eseven73> joeDeuce, you can /msg ubottu reiserfs :)
[02:48] <rahduke> hi, im trying to boot to a ubuntu 9.04 live CD and it keeps hanging and dropping me into busybox... anyone else have that problem?
[02:48] <RHorse> Justin10ec get a dock app that tells you temp cont check out dockapps.org
[02:48] <joeDeuce> eseven73: thanks, just figured it out ;)
[02:48] <RHorse> or dockapp.org
[02:48] <Jack_Sparrow> rahduke what option on boot have you tried  F4 F6
[02:48] <losher> jeremy_: commonest cause of restarts is bad hardware: memory or power supply. It's almost never a software issue on linux, especially 8.10 which is quite mature
[02:48] <furballbeethoven> Anyone here an expert on wireless networking on ubuntu 9?
[02:48] <rahduke> no
[02:48] <RHorse> yes, power fupply big problem
[02:49] <RHorse> computers very fussy about power
[02:49] <jeremy_> losher: i have 512MB of RAM
[02:49] <Justin10ec> Is there a way to make an output of a sh script show in a box? It's just going to return text.
[02:49] <rahduke> Jack_Sparrow: could this be happening cuz my DVD drive is faulty
[02:49] <eseven73> joeDeuce, I don't think reiser fs is being updated anymore is it? Since the creator is in prison now...or did someone else take over the project?
[02:49] <Jack_Sparrow> rahduke That did not answer my question..
[02:49] <losher> jeremy_: you could run memtest overnight just to check, but my guess is failing power supply....
[02:49] <jeremy_> losher: i know my PCU fan is making weird noises
[02:50] <furballbeethoven> As far as I can tell, my problem is that the Vaio smart network program that runs while I'm in Vista isn't running while I'm in Ubuntu. This makes sense, or it would, if the wireless hadn't been working not 6 hours ago >.< Anyone know what's wrong? Let me know if you need more info or specs.
[02:50] <joeDeuce> eseven73: lmao... I didn't know that
[02:50] <rahduke> Jack_Sparrow: i did not try F4 and F6
[02:50] <rahduke> I awnsered u musta missd it
[02:50] <jeremy_> losher: i just changed out the power supply a few minutes ago actually, to see if that works
[02:50] <RHorse> is there an #ubuntu-drugs channel?
[02:50] <losher> jeremy_: then replace your cpu fan too. overheating can cause restarts
[02:50] <jeremy_> losher: it could be a failing power supply i guess
[02:50] <joeDeuce> I've been on it for a week now, with no data loss (that I'm aware of)
[02:51] <Jack_Sparrow> rahduke F6 and set noapci apic=off and F4 safe graphics, then enter
[02:51] <eseven73> joeDeuce, yeah lol it's on wikipedia somewhere, just search for reiser file system , it's a nice file system though, no complaints
[02:51] <jeremy_> losher: luckily for me, i can get my hands on a CPU fan w/ the heat sync
[02:51] <rahduke> ill try
[02:51] <rahduke> thanks jack
[02:51] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[02:51] <mattyb> anyone successfully set up ICS recently?
[02:51] <mattyb> i've tried a bunch of things now, to no avail.
[02:51] <losher> jeremy_: it costs nothing to run memtest, and monitor your cpu temps. Next cheapest is a new fan. PSU is the most expensive option after that
[02:51] <chargersfan420> I just noticed apt being stupid.  I installed emerald, and apt suggested I install emerald-themes, which doesn't exist.
[02:51]  * joeDeuce goes to wikipedia... where he can get lost for hours reading and reading
[02:52] <joeDeuce> thanks eseven73
[02:52] <lstarnes> mattyb: have you tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetConnectionSharing ?
[02:52] <eseven73> ;D
[02:52] <jeremy_> losher: i should see how good the contact the processor and the heat sync are making just in case i might need to give a little coat of thermal paste
[02:52] <jasonmchristos> please HELP gtwitter connection failed
[02:52] <mattyb> lstarnes: yep.
[02:52] <furballbeethoven> My problem is that the Vaio smart network program that runs while I'm in Vista isn't running while I'm in Ubuntu. This makes sense, or it would, if the wireless had been working not 6 hours ago >.< Anyone know what's wrong? Let me know if you need more info or specs.
[02:52] <mattyb> lstarnes: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1159606
[02:52] <jeremy_> losher: im in computer repair. i can get one easily. we've been tearing these old IBM netvistas apart for parts.
[02:52] <skellington> hey guys, ubuntu noob here. i was wondering if there was an application for a transparent command line
[02:52] <losher> jeremy_: monitor your cpu temps should tell you if you even need to bother...
[02:53] <taylor_> I asked a question about b44 a few seconds ago, and then lost my connection. How do I check to see if I got an answer?
[02:53] <jeremy_> losher: true..is there a way i can monitor this without having to go through BIOS?
[02:53] <chargersfan420> skellington:  you mean the window transparent?
[02:53] <roncay> sdklhkfskfs
[02:53] <DasEi> BorkedAlsa:I think gotta dissappoint you, can't find it at alsa and also hp m-audio doesn't support linux, just mac and win
[02:53] <DasEi> BorkedAlsa:asoundconf list       >output ? is it found ?
[02:53] <furballbeethoven> taylor_: i think you can check the logs, i think it's like irclogs.ubuntu.com or something
[02:53] <DasEi> !ics > devindersingh:
[02:53] <skellington> yes, or maybe even translucent. im on a netbook and i'd like to see behind my window and be able to type in the command line
[02:53] <furballbeethoven> someone yell if i'm wrong
[02:54] <mihira> Anyone can help me with auto-pairing Microsoft Bluetooth Mouse under Ubuntu 8.10? pvt
[02:54] <Jack_Sparrow> !logs
[02:54] <jeremy_> losher: i probably do need to replace the heat sync fan combo. the fan is making a strange noise. i thought it just wasn't seated right. i reseated the heat sync and i have no such luck >.<
[02:54] <losher> jeremy_: there are software packages e,g. lmsensors. Can be mobo dependent though but worth trying...
[02:54] <chuck_> anyone get sound out of hdmi audio with current ati proprietary fglrx driver in ubuntu 9.4, sound  works with the xorg-radeonhd driver
[02:54] <jeremy_> losher: ill try lmsensors
[02:55] <th0r> skellington, Eterm can do transparent
[02:55] <losher> jeremy_: no reason you can't do both...
[02:55] <chargersfan420> skellington:  in terminal, go to "Edit - Profile Preferences", click on the "Background" tab, then click "Transparent Background".  Then play with the slider because you don't want it all the way
[02:55] <th0r> skellington, I think Aterm can too
[02:55] <RHorse> if you pm me i will take it as a personal compliment
[02:55] <ldiamond> I need to mount a drive at boot. /etc/fstab doesnt work (I load the drivers in /etc/rc.local), how can I do that?
[02:56] <RHorse> i dunno
[02:56] <chargersfan420> skellington:  if you only have 2-D graphics support, it will be "fake" transparency - if there's a window under it, it will still only show you the background picture.  You must have 3-D for true transparency
[02:56] <sevodnya> ldiamond: couldn't you issue a mount command in rc.local after loading the drivers?
[02:56] <jeremy_> losher: right. ill pick up a heat sync tomorrow from class and try that. i will use your advice and install lmsensors right now though. it has to be replaced either way though
[02:56] <skellington> that slider thing worked but there doesnt seem to be a window behind my command line.
[02:57] <skellington> i have 3d graphics support. im pretty sure.
[02:57] <ldiamond> sevodnya, I tried that, it didnt seem to work... I dont know why (the same command works when used manually)
[02:57] <losher> jeremy_: best of luck...
[02:57] <chargersfan420> skellington: if you've got an ATI chip like i do, you have to enable the proprietary graphics driver - you get the free one by default
[02:57] <sevodnya> ldiamond: did it leave an error message in the log?
[02:58] <jeremy_> losher: thank you for your help. you've done quite a bit ^-^
[02:58] <skellington> is there an ati chip in an eee pc?
[02:58] <Jack_Sparrow> !eee
[02:58] <ldiamond> sevodnya, I dont know where to look for one.
[02:58] <a-stray-cat`> hey, is there a way i can get the old ctrl+alt+backspace to reset X back?
[02:59] <lstarnes> !dontzap | a-stray-cat`
[02:59] <chargersfan420> skellington - looks like the bot knows (ubottu), but i don't
[02:59] <byte^> What exactly is the Swap partition for? I understand it is a sort of virtual memory, but when is it used? My swap is at a perpetual zero.
[02:59] <sevodnya> homeskillet: I'm not sure what to tell you, I've looked around and it doesn't look like you're the only one having trouble with this, hopefully someone else can help
[02:59] <a-stray-cat`> thankeh
[02:59] <skellington> it appears to be telling me how to install ubuntu. but i already have.
[02:59] <skellington> im just trying to fine tune it
[02:59] <chargersfan420> skellington - try this - go to "System - Administration - Hardware Drivers"
[02:59] <lstarnes> byte^: usually is is only used when ram needs to be freed up
[03:00] <chargersfan420> anything show up there?
[03:00] <byte^> Hmm, okay, thanks.
[03:00] <skellington> no proprietary drivers are in use on this system
[03:01] <chargersfan420> does it say any are available?
[03:01] <skellington> for my wifi card
[03:01] <chargersfan420> nothing about graphics?
[03:01] <skellington> not a one
[03:02] <skellington> but i really think i have that ati card thing someone mentioned
[03:02] <Guest60951> Hey guys, how could i directly connet to internet without NetworkManager ? i am using Ubuntu 9.04 installed in virtualbox
[03:02] <chargersfan420> Well, without knowing much about an EEE pc, i'd just give you the usual answer - you need to find out what kind of graphics card you got, and then find the driver
[03:02] <hobophobe> ubottu, how about installing to eee pc from live boot?
[03:02] <hobophobe> oh
[03:02] <hobophobe> dang
[03:03] <skellington> ill search it and report back
[03:03] <hobophobe> this is idiotic, it won't tell me which two files are corrupt
[03:03] <hobophobe> and it won't install
[03:03] <chargersfan420> hobophobe:  did you run the disc checker?
[03:03] <hobophobe> yes, it just says "two files corrupt" every time
[03:04] <hobophobe> no error from dd'ing the image to the thumb drive, the md5sum is fine
[03:04] <chargersfan420> oh, well shit dude, throw it out and burn another one.  If you think your download was bunk you can do an MD5sum on it too
[03:04] <hobophobe> it runs live just fine
[03:04] <hobophobe> this is a thumb drive, not a cd/dvd
[03:04] <byte^> Oh good lord why does OpenOffice look so ugly?
[03:04] <RHorse> didn't anytign happen while I was unconscious?
[03:05] <Dr_Willis> byte^:  because it loves you?
[03:05] <chargersfan420> i've had cd's that installed fine but a month later, it didn't set the ext3 just right, and there goes all my shit.  If you suspect the disc might have problems, you should really burn a new disc
[03:05] <wombatunder1> Just for keeping things neat and easy to find. is there a "Program Files" type directory for linux?
[03:05] <sevodnya> ldiamond: nvm that, rc.local doesn't seem to write to a log. You can, though, redirect the STDERR from mount to a file, use "mount [whatever] 2> /etc/logfile" or wherever you want it logged.
[03:05] <byte^> Is this KDE based or something?
[03:05] <byte^> Gah.
[03:05] <Dr_Willis> byte^:  i thought it was gtk based
[03:05] <byte^> Me too.
[03:05] <byte^> But... well it looks really different.
[03:05] <byte^> Extremely large text and white "Windows" background compared to the #! theme
[03:06] <ldiamond> sevodnya, I'll try that, thanks
[03:06] <skellington> its an intel uma integrated graphics card as far as i can tell
[03:06] <Dr_Willis> byte^:  err... #! may not be runnign the gnome-settings manager stuff.. so its not using the proepr gtk themes
[03:06] <jasonmchristos> what is the standard address book in ubuntu ?
[03:06] <Dr_Willis> byte^:  OOwrite looks fine here on gnome
[03:06] <byte^> I think I know why
[03:07] <byte^> perhaps I need the openoffice.org-common whatever package
[03:07] <RHorse> Are new ubie installs configured for irc.ubuntu.com 6667 in pidgin?
[03:07] <chargersfan420> wombatunder1:  kinda... most of my programs stash their stuff in the home folder, with a . in front to hide it.  In nautilus, you can press ctrl-H to show hidden stuff
[03:07] <wombatunder1> thank you
[03:07] <Dr_Willis> RHorse:  not that ive noticed.
[03:07] <FloridaGuy> firefox is starting up with a blank page...i cant drag and drop the home page...i tried reinstalling firefox
[03:07] <byte^> Well, that's 100 more megs, so it'll be a while till it installs.
[03:07] <Jack_Sparrow> !files > wombatunder1
[03:07] <byte^> A shame, I really hate Abiword.
[03:08] <tonytraductor> drag and drop the home page?
[03:08] <RHorse> Dr_Willis what's the irc app?
[03:08] <Dr_Willis> FloridaGuy:  remove/reinstlling is windows thinking... reset your users firefox/mozilla settings perhaps...
[03:08] <eseven73> !away > bk|away
[03:08] <Dr_Willis> RHorse:  i use irssi normally, or xchat.
[03:08] <byte^> FloridaGuy: Have you tried going to Edit > Preferences file menu and setting the home page manually?
[03:08] <chargersfan420> skellington:  I'd say you got two choices then:  look for a good eee pc thread via google, or head over to intel's website and see if you can find a driver
[03:08] <tonytraductor> irssi is best
[03:08] <wombatunder1> thank you
[03:08] <RHorse> Dr_Willis that may be true, but what comes with new ubie installs do you know?
[03:08] <tonytraductor> although sometimes I use seamonkey irc, since I like seamonkey browser and e-mail, too
[03:08] <FloridaGuy> byte^, yep
[03:08] <frank23> I have 2 directories of files: one contains ####.png and the other ####-sometext.zip where # is a number. How can I batch rename ####.png to ####-sometext.png  ? I checked out krename but doesn't seem to able to pick names from the second list of files.
[03:09] <hobophobe> I really don't want to buy another usb drive just to install when it is booting to the live environment fine... is there no way to install over network from that environment?
[03:09] <byte^> Hmm.
[03:09] <tonytraductor> but at the moment, I am using lynx browser, irrsi irc, and mutt mail
[03:09] <skellington> yeah im not very sure its an intel anymore. this should be better documented.
[03:09] <Dr_Willis> RHorse:  no idea. first thing i do is run a script that installs xchat, irssi, and a dozen + other things
[03:09] <grkblood13> did efnet jsut crash?
[03:09] <byte^> grkblood13: that would be surprising
[03:09] <RHorse> Ach! You're a good boy!!!
[03:09] <byte^> Let me check.
[03:09] <Dr_Willis> grkblood13:  err.. how would we know? :)
[03:09] <[t0rc]> idk we're on freenode... grkblood13
[03:09] <grkblood13> well, some people are on multiple servers
[03:09] <grkblood13> like myself
[03:10] <byte^> Working fine for me.
[03:10] <chargersfan420> wombatunder1:  if you haven't already, it's a real good idea to install your home directory to its own partition too!
[03:10] <grkblood13> something jsut happened over on efnet
[03:10] <RHorse> Dr_Willis I run my own sw, but nevermind
[03:10] <byte^> New irc install, I don't have efnet as a server to auto-connect at startup :P
[03:10] <byte^> irc client install, rather.
[03:10] <Dr_Willis> byte^:  and thats proberly a good thing. :P
[03:10] <byte^> :P
[03:10]  * byte^ is ops in 8 channels on Efnet
[03:11] <byte^> Probably too much, actually
[03:11] <eseven73> !ot
[03:11] <skellington> ugh, no luck. should i try eterm or aterm?
[03:11] <KyoLee> morning, everybody. i have a problem when  i use the tor and IRC ,     Banned:  Tor freenode is hidden-service-only (mejokbp2brhw4omd.onion) - see freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml.  how  can i do
[03:11] <grkblood13> the fullest room on efnet right now if 35 people :/
[03:11]  * byte^ uses Terminator.
[03:12] <Dr_Willis> Terminator has became a MUST have on my list of apps.. :)
[03:12] <chuck_> !ot|grkblood13
[03:12] <eseven73> grkblood13, that is not on topic for this channel though
[03:12] <Pici> KyoLee: ask in #freenode
[03:12] <hobophobe> I'm gonna try the debian way, it's only 16MB, thanks for the help guys
[03:12] <Dr_Willis> Glad to see terminator added to the 9.04 repos.
[03:13] <KyoLee> Pici:  Thanks a lot !
[03:13] <chargersfan420> hobophobe - maybe... i'm not really sure.  I've just had some experiences with poorly burned discs
[03:13] <guest912> a friend of mine gave me a flash drive that had .r1 .r2 and such files how do i take those and make them playable ????
[03:14] <hobophobe> chargersfan420, same here... will be glad when everything is over the network :)
[03:14] <hobophobe> media schmedia
[03:14] <skellington> ill try terminator
[03:14] <Dr_Willis> guest912:  if they are rar archives  You 'unrar' the first one and it should merge/unpack them all
[03:14] <Dr_Willis> !rar | guest912
[03:14] <fornix> my kde system locks down after about 15-20 mins of inactiveness. The monitor led blinks. But nothing happens. I can't make the screen appear back. I need to do a hard reset.
[03:14] <chargersfan420> skellington:  don't know much about them, but i think if the standard terminal is doing fake transparency, they probably all will.  that's why i suspect graphics driver... i could be wrong tho
[03:15] <guest912> Dr_Willis, they are dvd rips
[03:15] <Dr_Willis> guest912:  so unrar them
[03:15] <syntax\> how can i have the icons of open office back.
[03:15] <Dr_Willis> guest912:  hope you got some drive space handy
[03:15] <skellington> i actually agree with you, but its easier for me to try out these other terminals than go on my wild goose chase.
[03:16] <Dr_Willis> skellington:  once i learned terminator.. i dont go backto the others. :)
[03:16] <goose> aaaaah highlight
[03:16] <goose> hi skellington <3
[03:16] <chargersfan420> skellington:  fair enough... but it could take another hour... ;)
[03:16] <chode> hi
[03:16] <skellington> its alright, this is actually my first computer that i own
[03:16] <chode> trying to statically set eth1
[03:16] <chode> is /etc/init.d/networking not the file to restart to apply /etc/network/interfaces ?
[03:16] <skellington> and hello goose
[03:17] <chargersfan420> fornix:  are you on a laptop?
[03:17] <chode> if so, whats wrong with /etc/network/interfaces http://rafb.net/p/PEGf3120.html ?
[03:17] <osiris> is anyone able to access samba shares in jaunty through the file browser ?  It never connects to the remote machine, while other machines can connect to the remote share.
[03:17] <skellington> oh i see, i wrote goose.
[03:17] <Dr_Willis> osiris:  i normally enter the full path to the remote server/sharename.. and then it wants teh user/pass  i enter the info, and bookmark the  thing. :) then i got no more problems
[03:17] <fornix> chargersfan420: no. on a desktop. I have pasted my /var/log/messages on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1159634
[03:17] <skellington> but yeah, since this is my first owned computer, im gonna play around with it.
[03:17] <skellington> a lot.
[03:18] <osiris> i HAVE done it that way in the past, but this DID work in hardy
[03:18] <Strife89> Okay, I've been freeing up a ton of space in preperation to make a new partiton for Ubuntu, but my free space is badly fragmented. What's a good, free defragger that can get me a nice large block of free space?
[03:18] <Dr_Willis> osiris:  i also seem th notice that installing the full samba package seems to help. (but i always install it anyway, so i may be wrong)
[03:18] <Dr_Willis> osiris:  theres been some threads on the issue.. ive never managed to figure out why it works and why it dont sometimes
[03:18] <sylr> hi
[03:18] <osiris> again, I CAN do it that way, just not looking to spend the time to do it all by hand
[03:19] <osiris> just pointing out its broke in jaunty i guess
[03:19] <sylr> could anyone tell me what's the difference between a group and a system group ? thanks
[03:19] <Dr_Willis> osiris:  for some reason - i dont have theissue any more with my machines.. not sure what i did to it...
[03:19] <Dr_Willis> osiris:  other then installing the full samba package and setting the proper default workgroup in the smb.conf
[03:20] <Strife89> !defragment
[03:20] <chargersfan420> fornix:  thought it might be an acpi issue, but it doesn't look like it.  what happens if you disable screensaver-type stuff?
[03:20] <eseven73> !defrag | Strife89
[03:21] <Strife89> eseven73: I'm trying to defrag free space in preperation to make a partition for Ubuntu.
[03:21] <fornix> chargersfan420: it seems to be some memory related issue. i suspect a memory leak. I have 2 GB of ram. Apparently the mem gets full and the swap too. Havent tried disabling screensaver. will try though
[03:22] <Moonaddicted> ist jeman hier?
[03:22] <sylr> what's the difference between `addgroup <name>` and `addgroup --system <name>` ?
[03:22] <Moonaddicted> You speak german?
[03:22] <eseven73> meh im just really good with the bot commands, doesnt mean I can assist you further :P  just keep asking someone will eventually help you Strife89 ;)
[03:22] <Pici> !de | Moonaddicted
[03:22] <chargersfan420> fornix:  if you disable screensaver and you walk away for a while, just turn off your monitor - it'll save power too.  if you think it's a RAM issue, maybe you should do a memtest.
[03:22] <Strife89> eseven73: Okay, thanks anyway. :)
[03:23] <jcapinc> alright, so I got this super-cool logitech keyboard with all these shortcut buttons, half of which work, which sounds derogatory but to me is actually exciting, but a button that should work is volume up and down.  I went into the keyboard-shortcut configuration tool and mapped volume up and down to the correct keys, but instead of the real volume it changes the "line in" setting!  thats a config issue!  any help?
[03:23] <norrisg1> Who here needs help?
[03:23] <Strife89> I'll ask again in case it was completely missed.
[03:23] <Strife89> Okay, I've been freeing up a ton of space in preperation to make a new partiton for Ubuntu, but my free space is badly fragmented. What's a good, free defragger that can get me a nice large block of free space?
[03:23] <fornix> kernel: [ 6796.937516] Free swap  = 0kB
[03:23] <fornix> May 14 12:11:28 nanosoft kernel: [ 6796.937517] Total swap = 931728kB
[03:23] <fornix> this is why i think my mem is full
[03:23] <skellington> yeah. terminator doesnt have real transparency, even after i checked real transparency. im going to stick with my boring opaque terminal
[03:24] <norrisg1> Who needs help
[03:24] <jcapinc> Strife89, you dont need defrag, ubuntu does that automatically, not to mention the reformatting ubuntu will do will wipe out extant fragmentation
[03:24] <Dr_Willis> skellington:  err.. i think you have to then tellit to BECOME transparent afterwards...
[03:24] <jcapinc> norrisg1, I do!
[03:24] <norrisg1> ok
[03:24] <skellington> i did that too
[03:24] <Dr_Willis> skellington:  and with compuiz you can make anything transpraent. (i find the feature useless)
[03:24] <skellington> i saw the false background
[03:24] <Strife89> jcapinc: I don't have an Ubuntu partition yet.
[03:24] <jcapinc> norrisg1, alright, so I got this super-cool logitech keyboard with all these shortcut buttons, half of which work, which sounds derogatory but to me is actually exciting, but a button that should work is volume up and down.  I went into the keyboard-shortcut configuration tool and mapped volume up and down to the correct keys, but instead of the real volume it changes the "line in" setting!  thats a config issue!  any help?
[03:24] <chargersfan420> fornix:  is something eating your memory?  check top in terminal, or use the system monitor
[03:24] <skellington> i would rather not use compiz, im on a netbook
[03:24] <norrisg1> he jcapinc in im
[03:24] <jcapinc> Strife89, yes but when you make the partition it will defrag for you
[03:25] <norrisg1> IM ok jcapinc
[03:25] <Strife89> jcapinc: Ah...
[03:25] <Strife89> jcapinc: Alright, thanks for the info. :)
[03:25] <noumaan> We have finished translating XFCE from the official xfce website how do we submit it to Ubuntu so that it is available to Jaunty users
[03:25] <fornix> chargersfan420: i suspect amarok2. this was running both the times when the problem occurred. other might be pidgin
[03:26] <chode> WHAT DO I HAVE TO TYPE TO MAKE THIS WORK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:26] <chode> is /etc/init.d/networking not the file to restart to apply /etc/network/interfaces ?
[03:26] <JPratt> Bon Soir my Fellow Ubuntu users
[03:26] <fornix> chargersfan420: i will start both the apps and then check top for mem usage
[03:26] <chargersfan420> fornix:  you should check out conky if you've never heard of it.  It's a great way to catch that kind of stuff in the act... err, unless i guess your monitor goes dead when it happens...
[03:27] <Dr_Willis> chode:  i find 'sudo service SERVICCENAME restart' quicker. :)
[03:27] <fornix> chargersfan420: yes it gets dead. ctrl + alt + f1 doesn't work. I get nothing on the monitor
[03:27] <chode> Dr_Willis: well whats the service that restarts my network interface
[03:27] <fornix> chargersfan420: and i get occassional music sound
[03:28] <fornix> from amarok
[03:28] <Dr_Willis> chode:  no idea.. ive never noticed.
[03:28] <Dr_Willis> chode:  ive used 'network restart' befor.. but rarely had to
[03:28] <chargersfan420> fornix:  well, if something is gradually eating up more and more ram, which is usually the way it happens, conky can be useful to see it coming before it becomes too big of a problem (hard reset time)
[03:28] <fornix> !conky
[03:29] <jcapinc> norrisg1, alright, so I got this super-cool logitech keyboard with all these shortcut buttons, half of which work, which sounds derogatory but to me is actually exciting, but a button that should work is volume up and down.  I went into the keyboard-shortcut configuration tool and mapped volume up and down to the correct keys, but instead of the real volume it changes the "line in" setting!  thats a config issue!  any help?
[03:29] <chargersfan420> fornix:  i'll find you a link
[03:29] <losher> chode: /etc/init.d/networking restart should do it. What isn't working?
[03:29] <joeDeuce> chode: 25NetworkManager ..... or is that not what you need
[03:29] <norrisg1> Bye Bye people
[03:30] <fornix> chargersfan420: its in the repos. installing
[03:30] <chargersfan420> fornix:  http://conky.sourceforge.net/
[03:30] <Kingsy101> can someone tell me why I get this error ----> tar: ldap-nss.c:1319: do_init: Assertion `cfg->ldc_uris[__session.ls_current_uri] != ((void *)0)' failed. <--- when I try to run the command ---> tar -zxvf magento-1.2.1.tar.gz <---- on ssh ?
[03:30] <RHorse> did gram parsons  have anything to do with ubuntu?
[03:30] <chargersfan420> fornix:  it takes a little bit of configuring
[03:31] <fornix> chargersfan420: i installed it and ran it from terminal
[03:31] <fornix> i got a small black window
[03:31] <fornix> amarok is using 5.63% memory
[03:31] <Enissay> Trying to install ubuntu from th cd and after the loading bar, the screen goes blank and the keyboard lights starts flashing... what's the pb?
[03:31] <chargersfan420> fornix:  if you play with the settings, you can integrate it with your background, and also configure it to show you whatever, however.  check out the screenshots on the link
[03:32] <Xpistos> Can someone help me figure out how to mount the NTFS drive in my ubuntu server to my ubuntu laptop? (Yes NTFS drive in ubuntu server)
[03:32] <mzz> Kingsy101: hmm, the only reason I can think of offhand for tar to touch nss there is to get the uid/gid for the owners of the stuff it is extracting
[03:32] <fornix> chargersfan420: checking out the docs
[03:32] <mzz> Kingsy101: err, but you don't have a "p" in there. hmm.
[03:32] <mzz> Kingsy101: got a debugger? :)
[03:32] <Kingsy101> mzz - not to hand
[03:32] <PauloCesar> hi
[03:33] <Kingsy101> perhaps its becuase its a tar?
[03:33] <syntax\> anyone? somebody told me its related to the theme im using. my problem is Open Office icons disappeared and got replaced with text
[03:33] <mihira> Anyone can help me with auto-pairing Microsoft Bluetooth Mouse under Ubuntu 8.10? pvt
[03:33] <Kingsy101> mzz - would it solve the problem if it was a zip ?
[03:33] <Kingsy101> then use a different command ?
[03:33] <mzz> Kingsy101: well, the only reason I can think of for tar to touch ldap-nss would be something involving mapping uids/gids to names or vice versa.
[03:33] <RHorse> how can you shell out on  bitchx and see output on curr window
[03:33] <chargersfan420> fornix:  i could send you my conf if you want it
[03:33] <Kingsy101> mzz - what would be the command for extracting a zip ?
[03:33] <PauloCesar> somebody found the solution for totme.. "DeprecationWarning: the sha module is deprecated"  ??
[03:33] <mzz> Kingsy101: I don't understand how tar could trigger this unless something was fairly seriously broken system-wide though.
[03:33] <mzz> Kingsy101: unzip blah.zip
[03:33] <fornix> chargersfan420: sure
[03:34] <Kingsy101> ok
[03:34] <Kingsy101> 1 sec
[03:34] <mzz> Enissay: that sounds like the kernel panicing, possibly because of some hardware incompatibility
[03:34] <mzz> Enissay: is your hardware unusual in any way?
[03:35] <mzz> Enissay: also, if the loading bar bit does run successfully you could try the alt installer, which runs in text mode
[03:35] <mzz> Enissay: (even if that one fails it might give you a readable error message)
[03:35] <Kingsy101> mzz - unzipping worked fine ! :)
[03:35] <Kingsy101> I am going to report that error tho
[03:36] <chargersfan420> fornix:  what is your screen resolution?
[03:36] <mzz> Kingsy101: puzzling. I'd expect zip to store owner information differently, if at all, which is somewhat consistent with my theory so far.
[03:36] <awmcclain> What's with python 2.6 on jaunty using "dist-packages" isntead of site packages?
[03:36] <jasonmchristos> what is the standard address book in ubuntu ?
[03:36] <fornix> chargersfan420: 1280x768
[03:36] <mzz> awmcclain: don't get me started
[03:36] <Justin10ec> I was just here about laptop heat problems. I don't know if there's any way to do anything about this but my laptop seems to lose battery power quicker with Ubuntu. Is there a way to work on this?
[03:36] <mzz> Kingsy101: I am pretty sure the problem is not in tar, but in your nss/ldap setup
[03:36] <Salcedian> hey guys...
[03:37] <awmcclain> mzz: ... meaning, you're as puzzled as I or there's an obvious reason why my upgrade broke the server?
[03:37] <chargersfan420> fornix:  a little bit at the bottom might be cut off - but that's an easy fix.  does your chat client support file transfer?
[03:37] <Enissay> mzz: i launched it in safe graphic mode, it works now :)
[03:37] <mzz> awmcclain: debian/ubuntu has/have disagreed with how python's site-packages stuff is laid out for some time now. python-support was bad enough, apparently they have now decided to break innocent setup.py scripts written by people without debian/ubuntu systems in new and interesting ways.
[03:38] <fornix> chargersfan420: i am using quassel irc and cant find any option for file transfer
[03:38] <cabbbage> Lol
[03:38] <cabbbage> o.0
[03:38] <cabbbage> im new
[03:38] <awmcclain> mzz: Wonderful.
[03:38] <awmcclain> mzz: I join you in your grumble grumble then.
[03:38] <mzz> awmcclain: I'm sorry, I'm not on ubuntu either and don't have the details on this one.
[03:38] <chargersfan420> fornix:  oh i see... i'll find another way... one second
[03:39] <mzz> awmcclain: their intentions are probably good, but so far the most obvious effect is that I frequently run into people on debian/ubuntu with mysterious python problems I can't understand without having access to a system with their python
[03:39] <Matt> Hello, Is there anyone here with knowledge on setting up a tv tuner  in ubuntu intrepid?
[03:39] <fornix> chargersfan420: i am noticing amarok memory usage is slowly crawling up. it has become 5.67% from 5.63%
[03:40] <losher> mzz: interesting downside of freeware. Can't ask for your money back if it doesn't work....
[03:40] <awmcclain> mzz: Yup. They changed the default sys.path and totally removed site-packages. Silly.
[03:40] <svensko> how can i fix the large fonts on my acer aspire one with ubuntu? the documentation tells me to modify my xorg.conf but when i try to sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf it is blank, WTF?
[03:41] <chargersfan420> fornix:  copy it from here:  http://pastebin.com/d26c3b5a1
[03:41] <William7> Hi
[03:41] <Matt> hi
[03:41] <chargersfan420> losher: lol
[03:41] <William7> Can someone please tell me why I (seem to) need an internet connection to do an Ubuntu Install when I'm using the CD to begin with?  Just curious.....  what would happen if I didn't have an internet connection plugged in?
[03:42] <Matt> Is there anyone on that is knowledgeable with tv tuners and mythTV?
[03:42] <chuck_> Matt, Tv tuners are pretty much plug and play in ubuntu
[03:42] <th0r> is anyone using the ati video drivers with a radeon x1200 chip? works with the x1200. ATI now has version 9.4, but doesn't list the x1200 on their site.
[03:42] <IndyGunFreak> William7: you can install w/o an internet connection, it won';t hurt anything
[03:42] <orange-wedge> matt what kind of tv tuner do you have?
[03:42] <Tyler> svensko: that's because it's using the new Xorg with HAL
[03:42] <mzz> awmcclain: afaik they did patch distutils, so if you just reinstall your stuff it should end up in the location they want it (reinstall being rerun setup.py)
[03:42] <awmcclain> mzz: ug.
[03:42] <crdlb> th0r: it won't work
[03:42] <William7> IndyGunFreak,  so what is it downloading during the install when I have the Internet connection plugged in?  it said it downloaded about 865 files...
[03:43] <wombatunder1> how do I get root permission when I'm using the GUI File Browser in ubuntu 8.04?
[03:43] <Tyler> svensko: did it tell you to set NoDDC?
[03:43] <svensko> Tyler, i'm not sure how to without a xorg to mess around with
[03:43] <svensko> i believe there is another way to do it but it involves xsession?
[03:43] <chargersfan420> th0r - i noticed the website claiming less drivers were supported than the documentation - check the release notes
[03:43] <orange-wedge> william7 i don't think it would be able to install most of the default packages
[03:43] <IndyGunFreak> William7: probably just updates, when you get your connection up after install, it will do what it needs to do.
[03:43] <William7> wombatunder1:  I'm just speculating here... but I think you could go to a terminal window and type   "sudo nautilus"   then enter your password...
[03:44] <svensko> i know it's xsession in other distros, not sure what it is in ubuntu, i can just use -dpi 96 and that'll fix it, but i can't seem to find the file i'm referring to
[03:44] <Tyler> svensko: are you using gnome?
[03:44] <William7> ahh ok..
[03:44] <chargersfan420> th0r - less graphics cards, that is
[03:44] <mzz> losher: (a) I just like to rant a little occasionally :P (b) this annoys me mainly because it breaks innocent python packages written by people using a python closer to python.org's
[03:44] <wombatunder1> william7: what is Nautilus?
[03:44] <svensko> Tyler, use XFCE with the minimal CD install
[03:44] <IndyGunFreak> wombatunder1: thats the filemanager, and you' actually want to use gksudo.. gksudo nautilus
[03:44] <William7> wombatunder1:  Nautilus is the file browser in Ubuntu
[03:44] <th0r> chargersfan420, unfortunately the release notes (if they are there) are in the .bin file. I don't want to install the drivers and then find I have lost video
[03:45] <Tyler> svensko: In XFCE, you can change the dpi in the appearance settings
[03:45] <mzz> awmcclain: (other stuff getting the path through distutils.sysconfig will work, things with the path hardcoded won't, but that's not as common as you might think. Specifically most autotools-based stuff will end up in the spot they want it too, afaik)
[03:45] <wombatunder1> indygunfreak: what does the GK mean?
[03:45] <fornix> chargersfan420: ur config doesn't work on my computer.
[03:45] <losher> mzz: rant away. Don't mind me...
[03:45] <IndyGunFreak> !gksudo > wombatunder1
[03:45] <IndyGunFreak> wombatunder1: that explains it better than i could
[03:45] <mzz> heh
[03:45] <chargersfan420> th0r - i believe the download includes release notes in a pdf, in a compressed file
[03:45] <rww> wombatunder1: gksudo is the privilage elevation program for GTK+ programs.
[03:46] <svensko> ty Tyler, i didn't catch that :)
[03:46] <fornix> chargersfan420: http://paste.ubuntu.com/172717/
[03:46] <mzz> losher: I'm still somewhat expecting to end up ranting while an actual ubuntu python dev/packager is around at some point and getting completely obliterated, if you know what I mean :)
[03:46] <wombatunder1> Thank you Indygunfrea, william7 and rww
[03:46] <chargersfan420> fornix:  uh-oh!  you could try turning background to off... might be an issue if you don't have 3-D support
[03:46] <William7> IndyGunFreak: thanks for correcting my sudo suggesting to  gksudo     just learned something else from you guys.. thanks
[03:46] <wombatunder1> indygunfreak
[03:46] <mzz> losher: (I don't know their names or nicks, so I won't know what I'm doing until I've dug a nice deep hole for myself)
[03:47] <th0r> chargersfan420, just got the driver package off the amd site, it is a run file
[03:47] <JPratt> So when i watch DVD's I get no Audio but When i listen to music I do?
[03:47] <fornix> chargersfan420: did that. still no luck. I'll revert my config and play with it after reading the docs
[03:48] <losher> mzz: the heavy duty devs avoid these groups. Can't say I blame them...
[03:48] <chargersfan420> fornix:  looked at your pastebin.  you can set the background back to yes, but you'll have to remove some ACPI stuff... i'll send you another version
[03:48] <mzz> losher: true (on both)
[03:48] <chargersfan420> th0r:  can you show me the link you got it from?
[03:49] <JPratt> Any ideas on as too why that is?
[03:49] <robj189> i recently added a sound card to my computer and the sound works fine but every time i switch users or boot the computer the sound it turned all the way up, any ideas?
[03:50] <robj189> ubuntu 8.10
[03:50] <chuck_> JPratt,  what player are you using for music and watching dvds
[03:50] <robj189> im using banshee, but even the log in sound it turned all the way up
[03:50] <Puppetmaster_360> Does anyone know if I can partition my HDD while on USB installed BT3 so that I can add BT3 to my HDD and dual boot it with ubuntu
[03:50] <William7> Does anyone know if the new Jaunty 9.04 release supports the old Broadcom wireless  better? or will I still have to use the  cutter program...
[03:51] <th0r> chargersfan420, just a second
[03:51] <JPratt> I used Totem MPlayer and rythmbox for audio and the first two for the DVD
[03:51] <IndyGunFreak> William7: no personal experience, but a friend of mine says its better
[03:51] <William7> IndyGunFreak: ok great thank you.
[03:52] <chargersfan420> fornix:  http://pastebin.com/d53b7e741  - it's almost the same, just took out a bit of stuff... if it doesnt work, you could also try deleting the last 4 lines.
[03:52] <awmcclain> mzz: Any idea how to diable 2.6 in jaunty?
[03:52] <JPratt> chuck_, I used Totem MPlayer and rythmbox for audio and the first two for the DVD
[03:52] <Puppetmaster_360> Can I install BT3 to my HDD while on a USB bootup of BT3?
[03:52] <mzz> awmcclain: sorry, no (I suspect that's not even possible)
[03:52] <awmcclain> mzz: Or at least enable 2.5 again?
[03:53] <mcrandello> Hi is there a known issue with flash 10 causing FF to puke and freeze? All latest versions on Jaunty/i386
[03:53] <mzz> awmcclain: I'd actually expect installing 2.5 in parallel to just work, but I'm not sure if they applied the same patch to that
[03:53] <awmcclain> mzz: I have 25 installed already
[03:53] <chuck_> JPratt,  open mplayer without playing anything
[03:53] <mcrandello> I've never seen this thing where the whole window turns grey but still paints it's contents prior to this version
[03:53] <mzz> awmcclain: and its sys.path looks healthy?
[03:53] <th0r> chargersfan420, this is the link that talked about 8.40.4 supporting the 1200.
[03:53] <JPratt> chuck_, K
[03:53] <crdlb> awmcclain: mzz: 2.5 wasn't changed
[03:54] <mzz> ah, thanks
[03:54] <chargersfan420> mcrandello:  did you install the restricted modules package, or just flash?
[03:54] <awmcclain> mzz: Yes.
[03:54] <chuck_> right click in video window and open preferences
[03:55] <IndyGunFreak> mcrandello: i've had no probs w/ flash and jaunty
[03:55] <fornix> chargersfan420: no luck. removed the last 4 lines too
[03:55] <JPratt> chuck_ Done
[03:55] <fornix> chargersfan420: X Error of failed request:  BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)
[03:55] <chuck_> JPratt,  then click audio tab and see what is highlighted in the list
[03:56] <JPratt> chuck_,Pulse
[03:56] <chargersfan420> fornix:  try either changing "own window" to no, or "use_xft" to no.  one at a time
[03:56] <chuck_> JPratt,  try changing it to alsa
[03:57] <JPratt> it keeps flashing an error that i cant read
[03:57] <mcrandello> chargersfan420: hang on checking what's green in synaptic
[03:57] <JPratt> [AO_AlSA] Unable to find simple control 'PCM', 0 is the error chuck_
[03:58] <chargersfan420> mcrandello:  do a search on "restricted"
[03:58] <mcrandello> chargersfan420: flashplugin-nonfree and *extrasound
[03:58] <fornix> chargersfan420: yes. when i turn own window to true and use_xft to no. a window did show up
[03:58] <chargersfan420> mcrandello: look for a package called "ubuntu-restricted-extras"
[03:58] <chuck_> JPratt, click on configure driver in audio window with alsa selected
[03:58] <JPratt> Done
[03:58] <wombatunder1> I am trying to use "$ sudo chown root:root /etc/udev/rules.d/10-Huawei-Datacard.rules" and I keep getting bash: $: command not found. What am I doing wrong?
[03:58] <fornix> chargersfan420: i am getting nice graphs and stats
[03:59] <mcrandello> chargersfan420: only ones in that search are the modules (madwifi) and surprisingly ed and cron
[03:59] <lstarnes> wombatunder1: do not include the $
[03:59] <chargersfan420> fornix:  did you try them one at a time?  you might need to only change one option
[03:59] <lstarnes> wombatunder1: that's there to indicate that you enter it on a shell prompt
[03:59] <wombatunder1> istarnes: then it doesn't give me anything
[03:59] <chargersfan420> mcrandello:  hang on, i might not have the wording right
[03:59] <lstarnes> wombatunder1: then it succeeded
[04:00] <lstarnes> wombatunder1: most unix commands only return something if they failed
[04:00] <wombatunder1> istarnes, Ahh ok, thank you
[04:00] <chuck_> change you should be looking at a little box with default driver in each one
[04:00] <fornix> chargersfan420: i believe one of them needs to be on at a time either own window or xft
[04:01] <mcrandello> wombatunder1: if you man the command you're running there might be a -v or --verbose option to tell you what it did, always check before trying this though
[04:01] <wombatunder1> what does "Run install script in driver directory (consent to reboot)" mean?
[04:01] <chuck_> JPratt, sorry let me try that again
[04:01] <JPratt> IT does the same with all but i need to go to sleep
[04:01] <fornix> chargersfan420: my ram is now 29%, swap 0% and amaork 5.72%
[04:02] <chargersfan420> fornix:  either xft is a problem (something about the font it uses) or own window is a problem (it won't integrate with your background for some reason).  The last 4 lines, if you deleted them, show you networking stats, if you're interested.
[04:02] <mcrandello> wombatunder1: probably going to want to reboot the system when it's done
[04:02]  * alucard_ test
[04:02] <mcrandello> it may or may not prompt, make sure you've saved any open work
[04:02] <chuck_> JPratt, ok
[04:02] <fornix> chargersfan420: i don't want network stats
[04:03] <wombatunder1> mcrandello, how do I "run install script in driver directory"?
[04:03] <chargersfan420> mcrandello:  in synaptic, i have ubuntu-restricted-extras installed, and also one called linux-restricted-modules-common & -generic.  i suspect one or all of these might do the trick
[04:04] <Micinfig> Hello
[04:04] <mcrandello> cd to the driver directory (not sure which one they're referring to) and then "sh /path/to/your_script"
[04:04] <Micinfig> Can I ask one quesiton please?
[04:04] <chargersfan420> shoot micinfig
[04:04] <chargersfan420> Micinfig - can't say i can answer it tho
[04:04] <lstarnes> Micinfig: you can ask as many as you need
[04:04] <Micinfig> How do I know if the Ubuntu 9.04 installed on my PC is x64?
[04:04] <lstarnes> Micinfig: uname -m
[04:05] <mcrandello> chargersfan420: installing the ubuntu-restricted-extras as we speak
[04:05] <Micinfig> lemme try thanks :)
[04:05] <janpedro> Olá pessoal
[04:05] <mcrandello> the restricted-modules packages are just stuff like the old atheros drivers, radeon drivers etc
[04:05] <janpedro> alguém aqui fala português?
[04:05] <rww> !pt | janpedro
[04:05] <robdig> !br | janpedro
[04:05] <chargersfan420> Micinfig - uname -help will tell you a bunch of other stuff too
[04:05] <Micinfig> it say x86-64 so I guess its good :D
[04:05] <wombatunder1> mcrandello: I'm following this mcrandello:
[04:06] <rww> Micinfig: yeah, that's 64bit :)
[04:06] <mcrandello> lo que no mata engorda is the only portuguese I know
[04:06] <wombatunder1> mcrandello: I'm following this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=cd4ade02b6c15e1c41c910c2a8c54385&t=858032
[04:06] <janpedro> #ubuntu-br
[04:06] <Bad_Yusuke> that is spanish, mcrandello ;P
[04:06] <Micinfig> I'm grateful, keep up the outstanding job you're doing.. Thank you :)
[04:07] <chargersfan420> mcrandello - the ubuntu-restricted-extras is all the stuff you need like flash player and java, but they wouldn't install it from the start because its not open source
[04:07] <mcrandello> Bad_Yusuke: I know I don't have i8ln turned on on my kb or else it would be portuguese ;^)
[04:07] <Xpistos> can someone give me a hand getting a network drive mounted in my home folder
[04:07] <Xpistos> I can't figure out how it wants the drive called
[04:08] <jats> Does anyone have any experience with using the GeForce 4 with Ubuntu 8.10/9.04? I know there were issues with Nvidia's driver. I'm wondering how the speed compares
[04:09] <mcrandello> wombatunder1: I think they just mean the directory you got when you unpacked the drivers
[04:09] <wombatunder1> mcrandello: ok, I'll try that, thank you
[04:09] <mcrandello> so wherever you see the install.sh or install script just type "sh install(.sh)"
[04:09] <chargersfan420> hey fornix:  does your conky window still say "Go Chargers!"  ?  :D
[04:09] <mcrandello> they could have worded that a little better perhaps
[04:10] <bc> jats: I'm using just a GeForce FX 5500, compiz "full effects" and it's quite fast. It's a 256 card.
[04:10] <fornix> chargersfan420: yes it does
[04:10] <fzza3a> hey , I have error help me plz , look this :
[04:10] <fzza3a> root@ubuntu:/home/fzza3a# dpkg --configure -a
[04:10] <fzza3a>  dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 24152 package `openoffice.org-l10n-ar':
[04:10] <fzza3a>   `Suggests' field, invalid package name `hunspell-dictionary)ar': character `)' not allowed (only letters, digits and characters `-+._')
[04:10] <fzza3a>  root@ubuntu:/home/fzza3a#
[04:10] <FloodBot2> fzza3a: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:10] <byte^> It may not be the right place but what the hell, for any developers: I have a decent understanding of Java but I wish to code an application in GTK for Linux. If I understand correctly, GTK is based in C, so learning C would be recommended, correct?
[04:11] <bc> byte^: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GTK
[04:11] <fornix> chargersfan420: this line in my log disturbs me: amarok invoked oom-killer:
[04:11] <mcrandello> byte^: I think gtk has different libraries for various other languages as well
[04:11] <usser> byte^, not really, there are gtk bindings for various languages
[04:11] <usser> byte^, i prefer python
[04:12] <fornix> chargersfan420: i read on the net that "It is the job of the linux 'oom killer' to sacrifice one or more processes in order to free up memory for the system when all else fails." (http://linux-mm.org/OOM_Killer)
[04:12] <mcrandello> basically in addition to whatever language you're using there's going to be some sort of special syntax for creating windows/buttons/sliders etc
[04:12] <byte^> Hmm.
[04:12] <xxxdas> hi
[04:12] <fornix> chargersfan420: according to the site, the bad process is oom-killed first
[04:13] <mcrandello> or there may be an ide with integrated support for helping you build with that toolkit+ your language
[04:13] <xxxdas> brauche hilfe
[04:13] <fzza3a> can help me plzzzz ? :(
[04:13] <xxxdas> hallo
[04:13] <scunizi> !de | xxxdas
[04:14] <chargersfan420> fornix:  hmmm... sounds like it's the problem... although its only hovering around 6% right now?
[04:14] <byte^> I'm looking for a project to commit myself to for the summer, as a kind of learning process. I don't think Java would be a good choice to code in because of deficiencies in memory I do not like. I'm willing to dedicate 3-4 months to this, what would be a good language to learn? Is python preferrable? If it matters, I'm looking to code a simple note taking application.
[04:14] <xxxdas> need help please
[04:14] <byte^> (Yes, I'm aware such exist, I am just looking for a project to mess around with)
[04:14] <scunizi> xxxdas: just ask your question
[04:14] <fornix> chargersfan420: 5.73% yes. maybe when my monitor sleeps amarok gets crazy and eats up all the available memory
[04:14] <bc> byte^: if you don't know C, I'd probably get some experience with it even if you don't plan on making a career out of C.
[04:14] <rwcorbett> byte: adobe air looks like an interesting platform
[04:15] <fornix> or maybe some other process eats up all the memory
[04:15] <xxxdas> need help by jasminlive.com
[04:15] <byte^> bc: Exactly what I've been thinking.
[04:15] <byte^> I'm just wondering if, for my purposes, if one would be preferrable to another. I have no experience outside Java, keep in mind.
[04:15] <fornix> chargersfan420: yesterday i was playing iron maiden. maybe thats the problem :P
[04:15] <rwcorbett> byte: bc: yeah - C is pretty universal
[04:15] <fzza3a> bey
[04:16] <chargersfan420> fornix:  your syslog is from a hard kill, right?  Hey, no, don't blame the Maiden!
[04:16] <byte^> Alright, then I'll definitely look into learning C skills.
[04:16] <byte^> And maybe Python since it seems to be brought up so often.
[04:16] <byte^> Thanks
[04:16] <bc> byte^: look up the videos for Computer Science III: Programming Paradigms (Stanford) at academicearth.org
[04:16] <fornix> chargersfan420: i shut down the PC from power. so the logs need to be before the shutdown
[04:16] <_fb> some well known operating systems are written in C :)  good to know the roots.  start by reading K&R.
[04:17] <fzza3a> plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz  what do fot that ?
[04:17] <byte^> K&R?
[04:17] <fzza3a> root@ubuntu:/home/fzza3a# dpkg --configure -a
[04:17] <fzza3a> dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 24152 package `openoffice.org-l10n-ar':
[04:17] <fzza3a>  `Suggests' field, invalid package name `hunspell-dictionary)ar': character `)' not allowed (only letters, digits and characters `-+._')
[04:17] <fzza3a> root@ubuntu:/home/fzza3a#
[04:17] <fzza3a> ]
[04:17] <FloodBot2> fzza3a: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:17] <chargersfan420> fornix:  you still have the pastebin handy?  i lost it
[04:17] <jats> bc: do you know how the open drivers compare with the proprietary drivers? If I'm not mistaken you need to use the non-proprietary driver for 8.10 and onward.
[04:17] <bc> byte^: he covers C/C++, Scheme, Python
[04:17] <LinuxGirl> can someone give me a hand getting a network drive mounted in my home folder
[04:17] <byte^> Neat.
[04:17] <fornix> chargersfan420: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1159634
[04:17] <byte^> What is K&R?
[04:17] <syntax\>  i used a theme on ubuntu 9.04 that removed the icons in openoffice, is there by any chance a fix for that? i mean if i revert back to human, icons are there, if i use a different theme icons are not there.
[04:18] <bc> jats: I'm using the driver provided by nvidia. compiz needed the nvidia driver to do anything above "basic display"
[04:18] <tritium> byte^: Kernighan and Ritchie.
[04:18] <_fb> Kernighan and Ritchie.  founders of unix.  a lawsuit tied up a BSD release back in the 90's and torvalds got impatient and wrote linux kernel.  and now you have ubuntu.
[04:19] <bc> byte^: also check out the book "Pointers on C" -- I forget the author.
[04:19] <byte^> Okay. Thanks for the advice, all.
[04:19] <fzza3a> http://paste.ubuntu.com/172730/plain/ | <FloodBot1> <FloodBot2>
[04:19] <chargersfan420> fornix:  there are lots of things being oom killed off.  Maybe  not an amarok issue...
[04:19] <orange-wedge> !gksudo > orange-wedge
[04:19] <jats> bc: hmm I thought you couldn't use the nvidia driver with the version of Xorg shipped with 8.10?
[04:19] <orange-wedge> !gksudo > Matt
[04:19] <fornix> chargersfan420: but the first option was amarok
[04:20] <fornix> chargersfan420: means the badness of amarok was high
[04:20] <mcrandello> chargersfan420: still freezing
[04:20] <bc> jats: there is a non-proprietary nvidia driver yeah. it might have been an issue with my card, I dont know.
[04:20] <scunizi> jats: I'm using the nvidia driver direct from nvidia for 8.04 and 8.10
[04:20] <mcrandello> it's the darndest thing too 10 apparently fixed this for a number of people
[04:20] <chargersfan420> fornix:  true, but it does kill off pidgin more than once... i should point out i'm no expert on this stuff
[04:20] <c0mp13371331337> jats: Nope, I'm using the nvidia driver on 9.04, and used it through 8.10 and 8.04 as well.
[04:20] <chargersfan420> fornix:  i'd just keep your eye on conky, and maybe the screen saver thing will help
[04:21] <chargersfan420> mcrandello
[04:21] <chargersfan420> mcrandello:  are you on 64-bit?
[04:21] <bc> jats: I just went to System -> Admin -> Hardware Drivers and it suggested one. I clicked "yes" or install, or whatever, and I was up and running.
[04:21] <jats> ﻿scunizi: Did this change from the original release? I remember reading in the release notes something about the native nvidia driver not working.
[04:21] <drrohin> can some one help me make an install
[04:21] <fornix> chargersfan420: yes. i will observe today. the moment screensaver thing starts
[04:22] <LinuxGirl> can someone give me a hand getting a network drive mounted in my home folder
[04:22] <noumaan> We have finished translating XFCE from the official xfce website how do we submit it to Ubuntu so that it is available to Jaunty users
[04:22] <jats> bc: I have it working now but I thought I read somewhere I would have to switch to the non-proprietary driver if I upgraded to 8.10.
[04:22] <c0mp13371331337> LinuxGirl: A Samba or Windows share?
[04:22] <LinuxGirl> ntfs drive in ubuntu
[04:22] <chargersfan420> fornix:  on the screensaver window, do you have a power management button?
[04:22] <scunizi> jats: I've not had that much luck lately with the packaged drivers in Sys/Admin/Hardware Drivers.  173.x was ok until I went from a 6600 card to a 8200 card.. then I had to use the drivers from nvidia.. 180.51 currently..
[04:22] <LinuxGirl> ubuntu server to ubuntu laptop
[04:22] <fzza3a> what I can do http://paste.ubuntu.com/172730/plain/ ? plz+plz
[04:23] <mcrandello> chargersfan420: not this system
[04:23] <bc> jats: I'm not sure at all. I moved to Ubuntu from Debian a couple of weeks ago.
[04:23] <mcrandello> same problem with a 64 bit sys tho
[04:23] <fornix> chargersfan420: i haven't seen what screensaver window looks like in kde :P yes on gnome yes i had set power management monitor sleep ta 11 minutes
[04:23] <c0mp13371331337> LinuxGirl: Okay, so it's an NTFS filesystem being shared from Ubuntu using samba?
[04:23] <LinuxGirl> Yes
[04:23] <jats> bc: well it seems I misunderstood or the problem has been fixed. Thanks for your help.
[04:23] <fornix> there is a power control in kde display settings
[04:23] <Enissay> I made a fresh install of jaunty, but it doesnt detect my graphic card and install the proprietary drivers like under 8.10!!!!
[04:24] <LinuxGirl> c0mp13371331337: I am just not sure how the share on the server has to be shown
[04:24] <bc> jats: I'd certainly do some googling for your specific card to see if there are any issues
[04:24] <jats> enissay: you're using 9.04?
[04:24] <fornix> chargersfan420: but power control in display settings is disabled!
[04:24] <Enissay> jats, yes
[04:24] <scunizi> jats: what card do you have?
[04:24] <bc> jats: I'm using 9.04 as well
[04:24] <fornix> chargersfan420: so why is it going to standby
[04:24] <chargersfan420> mcrandello: i've used 64 bit from 7.04 - 9.04 and sometimes it worked, sometimes not.  it worked in 9.04 but ate a lot of battery power (because of npviewer.bin - the conversion wrapper).  just switched to 32-bit now.  not sure what to tell you
[04:25] <jats> scunizi: GeForce 4 7000-series I believe.
[04:25] <ubuntu> rt 6669
[04:25] <LinuxGirl> c0mp13371331337: i have it as //192.168.1.100/home/x/NTFS
[04:25] <chargersfan420> fornix:  is it a laptop?  do you have gnome-power-manager?
[04:25] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Does anyone know if GRUB would boot Windows Vista from a logical partition?
[04:25] <krammer__> can i extract a rar file?
[04:25] <Guest33858> Jats!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:25] <LinuxGirl> c0mp13371331337: But it is a drive
[04:25] <fornix> chargersfan420: nope its not a laptop. its a desktop-pc
[04:26] <chargersfan420> CoJaBo-Aztec - yes it does... i think... then again, i think mine is a primary
[04:26] <jats> scunizi: actually a GeForce 7300 GS
[04:26] <scunizi> jats: I've read that there were some quirks on the 7 series cards and that the 180.xx drivers pretty much fixed it.. however the earlier 180.xx drivers were very laggy.. the 180.51 should do that card pretty well.
[04:26] <krammer__> i am still having this problem with Cannot invoke CheckForMedia on HAL:
[04:26] <c0mp13371331337> LinuxGirl: Shouldn't be anything special about it then, samba seamlessly handles the differences in filesystems.  As long as samba on the server is set to share that particular folder, it should be a simple mount command away.
[04:26] <fornix> chargersfan420: thx for the help. i need to go to the gym now. will exit amarok and check whether it still locks down.
[04:27] <chargersfan420> fornix:  you might have gnome-power-manager anyway - it might be an issue too.  have fun!
[04:27] <sevodnya> kramer__: for extracting rar archives, try package unrar-free or unrar
[04:27] <LinuxGirl> c0mp13371331337: I keep getting this "mount error 6 = No such device or address"
[04:27] <LinuxGirl> "
[04:27] <krammer__> sevodnya, thanks ill try that my biggest problem is
[04:27] <CoJaBo-Aztec> chargersfan420: Is there any way to find out other than doing it? I have the partition (that was originally primary) backed up, but now I need to restore it to a logical partition (a 3-4 hour operation), and have no idea if this will even work when it finishes :/
[04:27] <c0mp13371331337> LinuxGirl: I remember reading that in certain situations, samba will only be able to mount a single directory deep, so you may want to try mounting //192.168.1.100/home if you're having problems with the entire address.
[04:27] <krammer__> i am still having this problem with Cannot invoke CheckForMedia on HAL:
[04:28] <jats> scunizi: so you think the 180.x.x series is close to nvidia's driver for performance? I'm willing to take a small performance hit to upgrade, especially if it's to a free piece of software.
[04:28] <scunizi> jats: to install you have to go to synaptic and uninstall the other nvidia drivers that came with ubuntu.. then after downloading the new driver and chmod +x "ing" it, go to ctrl+alt+F2 and sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop .... then install the driver.. after that sudo reboot now and it should be good to go.
[04:28] <Guest33858> hello
[04:28] <LinuxGirl> c0mp13371331337: It is the primary drive though
[04:28] <LinuxGirl> c0mp13371331337: It isnt' the primary I meant
[04:28] <scunizi> jats: you get the driver direct from nvidia
[04:28] <sevodnya> krammer__:i might have missed this, but when do you get this error?
[04:29] <krammer__> sevodnya, when i insert a dvd or cd i get that message u didint miss it i just posted it
[04:29] <scunizi> jats http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html
[04:29] <krammer__> sevodnya,  I tried removing the lock and rebooted then the lock file came back
[04:29] <c0mp13371331337> LinuxGirl: Shouldn't matter.  I've got an external HD hooked up to another computer in the house, and one of the directories on that drive is set up as a samba share.  You could try mounting //192.168.1.100/home, or point samba on the server to share specifically the NTFS folder rather than the /home folder.
[04:29] <chargersfan420> CoJaBo-Aztec:  I would think it does, and i haven't seen it have problems with logical partitions, unlike LILO.  I've got a triple boot set up (vista / xp / ubuntu) and i use the vista bootloader to pick between the 3 choices... when i select ubuntu it loads grub.  might be one way to do it
[04:30] <jats> scunizi: As I understood it there was a driver developed by nvidia and one by the community. Or did the community fork nvidia's driver?
[04:30] <LinuxGirl> c0mp13371331337: Nope still get the same error
[04:30] <c0mp13371331337> What's the full command you're using?
[04:31] <sevodnya> krammer__, what's the full path to the lock file in question?
[04:31] <scunizi> jats: the community driver .. well.. as I remember there is nv and a newer "other" opensource driver.. I haven't tried it.. but I know the one direct from nvidia is working for me well.
[04:31] <LinuxGirl> c0mp13371331337: Wait, does the drive of folder have to be set to share?
[04:31] <sevodnya> also, krammer, are you having this problem with all cds, or just some?
[04:31] <drrohin> can anyone help me make an install of a tar.gz
[04:31] <chargersfan420> CoJaBo-Aztec - i wish you luck though, and hope you won't need it :)
[04:31] <jats> scunizi: Ok thanks. I think I'll use nvidia's then.
[04:31] <LinuxGirl> //192.168.1.100/sdc1/   /home/x/Kronos  cifs    username=x,password=november101973,uid=1000,iocharset=utf8,codepage=unicode  0
[04:31] <krammer__> Severian, all and dvds this is some of the error annot invoke CheckForMedia on HAL: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply.
[04:31] <mobi-sheep> !make | drrohin
[04:32] <scunizi> jats: remember you'll have to reinstall after each kernel upgrade.. just remember that on a kernel upgrade to download the latest driver before you reboot
[04:32] <khc> I have a gusty box, update-manager only says 8.04 LTS is available, is there a way to directly update to 9.04?
[04:32] <c0mp13371331337> LinuxGirl: Okay, so you're using fstab to mount?
[04:33] <bc> scunizi: jats: in gnome, it picked up the fact that i needed nvidia's driver and prompted to download and install it for me.
[04:33] <chargersfan420> LinuxGirl - have you created an empty folder to mount to?
[04:33] <scunizi> khc: no.. you have to go one step at a time.. or save your /home and install fresh then replace your /home files
[04:33] <LinuxGirl> Yes and Yes
[04:33] <jats> scunizi: yeah I've been putting off upgrading my kernel because it breaks graphics and my wireless connection(it's a compiled driver).
[04:33] <khc> boo
[04:33] <CoJaBo-Aztec> chargersfan420: The thing I'm worried about is if Vistas bootloader will die if it notices its on a logical instead of primary partition (especially since it was originally installed to a primary).
[04:33] <bc> scunizi: jats: s/install/installed/ (it told me this when I tried to enable effects in compiz)
[04:33] <scunizi> bc: jats but that is an older driver.. I believe 180.24.. it can still be laggy
[04:33] <bc> scunizi: ahh
[04:33] <c0mp13371331337> LinuxGirl: sdc1 is the device name of the drive, it sounds like.  You'd need to mount that drive and share the location that it's mounted to on the server.
[04:34] <drrohin> mobi-sheep: i read it but i don't think i am understanding it i have been at this for 18 hours
[04:34] <c0mp13371331337> LinuxGirl: Plus, you're using the cifs type, I'd try 'sudo apt-get install smbfs' and replace cifs with smbfs.
[04:34] <drrohin> if it'll help i am trying tio use hamachi
[04:34] <juxta> I want to have my /boot/ on a partition located on a usb disk. when i'm writing up menu.lst, what do i need to do about the root() line? I don't know what drive number the usb device will be detected as..
[04:35] <sevodnya> krammer__, is your system fully updated, and which version are you running?
[04:35] <chargersfan420> CoJaBo-Aztec - there are two places to stash a bootloader - in the MBR (a little bit of space at the beginning of the drive) and on the actual partition.  In my setup, i have to stash grub on the /boot partition.  I set up the vista bootloader using EasyBCD, which works in vista and XP.  Do you have another bootable windows partition you can use to install it?
[04:35] <krammer__> baby is crying need to go thanks ill brb later
[04:35] <LinuxGirl> c0mp13371331337: When I mount smbfs I get "Warning: ignoring deprecated smbfs option 'codepage=unicode'" plus the original error
[04:36] <orange-wedge> !pastbin
[04:36] <orange-wedge> !pastebin
[04:36] <Guest33858> please i need tutorials on Back Track
[04:36] <LinuxGirl> c0mp13371331337: when you say mount the drive and share what do you mean. the drive is mounted on the server already
[04:37] <CoJaBo-Aztec> chargersfan420: I am trying to install Kubuntu, but altho theres free space, the number of primary partitions is maxed out. To fix this, I would need to move some to logical.
[04:37] <Guest33858> please i need tutorials on Back Track
[04:37] <c0mp13371331337> LinuxGirl: If the drive is mounted to the NTFS folder that you mentioned earlier, you would replace //192.168.1.100/sbc1 with //192.168.1.100/path/to/NTFS.
[04:38] <chargersfan420> CoJaBo-Aztec - any reason why Kubuntu needs to be primary?  just thinking, why move a different drive if you don't have to?
[04:38] <fzza3a> help me http://paste.ubuntu.com/172730/plain/
[04:38] <fzza3a> http://paste.ubuntu.com/172730/plain/
[04:38] <fzza3a> http://paste.ubuntu.com/172730/plain/
[04:38] <fzza3a> http://paste.ubuntu.com/172730/plain/
[04:38] <FloodBot2> fzza3a: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:38] <c0mp13371331337> LinuxGirl: Here is my fstab line: //192.168.2.102/1	/opt/foldingathome/willow	smbfs	username=me,password=	0	2
[04:38] <djacob> Hello All, was wondering if someone can help me with setting up a ntp server on my ubuntu machine, i have it all config'd and running , just no other machine can update from it, please let me know if you can help
[04:39] <c0mp13371331337> LinuxGirl: The '1' directory after the IP address is an actual directory in the /opt folder that contains what I want shared.  Rather than using the device (sdc1).
[04:40] <EricJ1186> Can someone help me with setting up drivers?
[04:40] <scunizi> EricJ1186: be more specific
[04:40] <EricJ1186> I have the driver for my video card (Nvidia) and my sound card (Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi)
[04:40] <LinuxGirl> c0mp13371331337://192.168.1.100/home/x/NTFS/    /home/x/Kronos  cifs    username=... I think the problem with with how the drive needs to be listed
[04:41] <EricJ1186> I ran the terminal code for the Nvidia one, and it said can't open [file name]
[04:41] <scunizi> EricJ1186: the nvidia driver.. does it end in .exe?
[04:41] <EricJ1186> no
[04:42] <fzza3a> so , I will go :(
[04:42] <EricJ1186> it's NVIDIA-Linux-x86-180.51-pkg1.run
[04:42] <LinuxGirl> c0mp13371331337: I've tried ip/dev/sdc1,  ip/x/home/NTFS. and others that I don't remember, but it keeps saying no such device or address
[04:42] <Dyno> whats the command to get out of x?
[04:42] <Dyno> and into cmd
[04:42] <c0mp13371331337> LinuxGirl: That looks about right.  Did you try that with the smbfs type rather than cifs?  I've never used cifs, so I can't help with that unfortunately.
[04:43] <scunizi> EricJ1186: ok.. you need to go to ctrl+alt+F2 and sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop .. then cd to the directory where the driver is.. if desktop then cd /home/<username>/Desktop
[04:43] <scunizi> EricJ1186: then sudo ./NVIDIA.yada.yada
[04:43] <sevodnya> dyno: you can switch to a different virtual terminal with Ctrl-Alt-F1 through -F5, then back to X with Ctrl-Alt-F7.
[04:43] <Dyno> ty
[04:43] <Dyno> and what is that most commonly used for?
[04:43] <CoasterMaster> Is there a program similar to terraterm for ubuntu? (i.e. something that can just read and write to a serial port)
[04:43] <EricJ1186> all right, I'll write that down.  Thank you very much
[04:44] <LinuxGirl> c0mp13371331337: No that does not work either
[04:44] <EricJ1186> I also have the Sound Blaster X-Fi drivers
[04:44] <c0mp13371331337> LinuxGirl: And if that doesn't work, try setting up a new samba share to the NTFS folder directly.  So the address would be //192.168.1.100/NTFS    /home/x/path/to/mount     smbfs
[04:44] <EricJ1186> those I am less sure what to install
[04:44] <scunizi> EricJ1186: can't help with the X-fi drivers.. not sure there.
[04:44] <sevodnya> dyno: the only real time that comes up is dealing with problems with graphics drivers, at least in my experience.
[04:44] <Dyno> eric: creative supports xfi
[04:44] <Dyno> Eric: for ubuntu
[04:44] <sevodnya> dyno: other than that, you can usually run commands within gnome-terminal or what have you
[04:44] <EricJ1186> yeah, I have the drivers
[04:45] <EricJ1186> but it says    	 	 	 	 	 	   In terminal,
[04:45] <EricJ1186> 1) Goto source directory 2) Execute make command as root    make    make install
[04:45] <EricJ1186> and I am not sure what that means
[04:45] <c0mp13371331337> LinuxGirl: Or test with just //192.168.1.100/home.  As I said, I read somewhere that in certain situations, it can only mount the first directory, and I think one of those situations is when mounting via fstab.
[04:45] <Dyno> it means u need to install under root
[04:45] <Dyno> so sudo make install
[04:46] <Dyno> basically, u open up terminal, cd to whatever directory contains the install files and type the command "sudo make install
[04:46] <EricJ1186> ok, easy enough
[04:46] <LinuxGirl> c0mp13371331337: The drive I am trying to mount in my laptop is the third drive in my server. In fdisk, it is listed as sdc1, but I have it mounted in my server's home drive as NTFs
[04:46] <scunizi> EricJ1186: you'll need to install build-essential.. sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:47] <c0mp13371331337> Is that NTFS drive itself being shared with samba?
[04:47] <c0mp13371331337> ^NTFS folder, not drive
[04:47] <LinuxGirl> c0mp13371331337: At your suggestion, I have tried //IP/home and //IP/NTFS with no luck
[04:47] <Dyno> what is a good programming language to get started in?
[04:47] <scunizi> EricJ1186: and "make".. sudo apt-get install make
[04:47] <LinuxGirl> c0mp13371331337: NTFS is the folder name in the server
[04:47] <lstarnes> scunizi: make is included with build-essential iirc
[04:47] <c0mp13371331337> LinuxGirl: But is it set up as a shared folder?
[04:48] <scunizi> lstarnes: ah.. thought so but wasn't quite sure.
[04:48] <LinuxGirl> c0mp13371331337: No
[04:48] <c0mp13371331337> Try sharing that NTFS folder.
[04:48] <LinuxGirl> c0mp13371331337: Okay lets see
[04:48] <Takai31> Evening all!
[04:49] <tony_faceless> hi...looking for a media player (or a codec packages) that handles rm (real media) files, but trying to stay away from real player... any suggestions?
[04:49] <Takai31> Was hoping to get a little help with my Ubuntu install.  Computer is completely nonfunctional at this point. :(
[04:49] <scunizi> Takai31: you gotta be more specific..
[04:50] <sevodnya> tony_facebless: you could try mplayer, i've had luck with that and rm in the past
[04:50] <Takai31> Installed 9.04 earlier (via usbthumb), installed just fine except it would completely freeze within 2 minutes of logging in, apparently a common issue.
[04:50] <Guest33858> hi
[04:50] <Dyno> tony_facebless TRPlayer www.linux-speakup.org/trplayer.html
[04:50] <Guest33858> hi
[04:50] <Takai31> I opted to re-install fresh with 8.10, but found it would start the install process and lockup as soon as it got to the Loading /ubninit and hit ready.
[04:50] <quentusrex> I think I've found a memory leak in X
[04:50] <Takai31> No verbose feedback
[04:51] <Takai31> I tried the acpi=off option, and still no joy.
[04:51] <tony_faceless> sevodnya:  using that now and nothin' doin'
[04:51] <Takai31> So I went further back and tried 8.04, same issue.  Oddly I was on 8.04 previously and it worked fine.
[04:51] <scunizi> Takai31: might be an acpi issue.. usually remedied with an addition to the kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.list reading acpi=off or something like that
[04:51] <sevodnya> tony_faceless: vlc?
[04:51] <Takai31> Yep, tried acpi=off
[04:51] <Takai31> What seems to be happening is ...
[04:52] <Takai31> It loads the kernel, then shutdowns all USB ports (keyboard, mouse, and the usb thumb drive)
[04:52] <skellington> one last question before i call it a night
[04:52] <tony_faceless> sevodnya: I think that gave me an error something along the lines "...and there's nothing we can do about it"
[04:52] <LinuxGirl> c0mp13371331337: We did it!
[04:52] <skellington> why cant i edit my menu.lst for grub bootloader in ubuntu?
[04:52] <c0mp13371331337> LinuxGirl: :-D
[04:52] <Dyno> does xmms play real media?
[04:52] <scunizi> Takai31: google might be your better friend here.. I'm stuck sorry.
[04:53] <c0mp13371331337> LinuxGirl: Way to go!
[04:53] <Takai31> Thanks anyway scunizi, been googling all night :(
[04:53] <skellington> im running ubuntu netbook remix, which is based on 9.04
[04:53] <Dyno> so im thinking of trying out Linux Mint
[04:53] <Dyno> is it just like ubuntu but more complete?
[04:53] <tony_faceless> sevodnya: "VLC does not support the audio or video format "RV30". Unfortunately there is no way for you to fix this."
[04:53] <scunizi> Takai31: just for grins.. is this an amd machine? gforce chipset?
[04:54] <tony_faceless> Dyno: xmms? hmmm...
[04:54] <Takai31> amd machine, not a gforce video card
[04:54] <Takai31> err
[04:54] <Takai31> is a gforce video card
[04:54] <sirbamf> ls
[04:54] <scunizi> Takai31: not video card but motherboard chipset
[04:54] <sirbamf> oops, haha wrong window
[04:54] <Takai31> Ah, nforce, nope not an nforce chipset
[04:54] <LinuxGirl> c0mp13371331337: The magic was setting it as "//192.168.1.100/NTFS" after the share and forget the "home/profile/
[04:54] <adahendra> haloo, i need help about SiS video card
[04:54] <EricJ1186> Sorry, back again - any idea why ctrl + alt + F2 does nothing?
[04:55] <adahendra> anyone can help me?
[04:55] <adahendra> :D
[04:55] <tony_faceless> Dyno: do you know if xmms is OSS (Open Sound System) friendly?
[04:55] <Takai31> Asus M2A-VM mainboard
[04:55] <c0mp13371331337> LinuxGirl: Beautiful, glad to see it's working for ya now!
[04:55] <scunizi> Takai31: k.. I have to use pci=nomsi on my chipset to get it to work
[04:55] <Dyno> tony_faceless: you can download a realaudio plugin for xmms
[04:55] <Takai31> Well, at this point just for shits and giggles, I'll try it heh
[04:56] <sevodnya> tony_faceless, did mplayer give you a specific error?
[04:56] <EricJ1186> Anyone?
[04:56] <scunizi> Takai31: have you tried www.google.com/linux and use m2a-vm ubuntu for the search?
[04:56] <tony_faceless> sevodnya: yes... give me a minute...
[04:56] <Takai31> Nope, but as I said, I previously had 8.04 running on this system just
[04:56] <Takai31> err just fine
[04:56] <Takai31> Ahh this time the install is actually at the Ubuntu splash screen :O
[04:56] <Takai31> progress!
[04:56] <LinuxGirl> scunizi: I love google.com/linux
[04:56] <scunizi> LinuxGirl: yep :)
[04:56] <LinuxGirl> Thanks everyone!
[04:57] <Takai31> Hmm, dropped to a BusyBoxv1.1.3 (initramfs) console prompt
[04:57] <tony_faceless> sevodnya: "Cannot find codec matching selected -vo and video format 0x30335652."
[04:57] <Takai31> and keyboard/mouse are non-responsive
[04:57] <sevodnya> ericj1186, does it do nothing, or does it switch to a VT and back again, i've had that happen
[04:57] <Takai31> keyboard has no power, so it did the usb thing again where it shuts off power to the usbports
[04:58] <EricJ1186> I didn't see a change
[04:58] <EricJ1186> also, I tried the sudo make install and it returned an error
[04:59] <scunizi> Takai31: arg.. maybe a bios thing?  perhaps needing a bios upgrade?  some boards are like that
[04:59] <losher> Dyno: I wouldn't say Mint is more complete. It's supposed to support more hardware, and it doesn't rev so fast so it's probably a tad more stable. Otherwise I couldn't see much difference
[04:59] <lstarnes> EricJ1186: what was the error?
[04:59] <Takai31> Ordinarily I'd not disagree, except this ran previously
[04:59] <syntax\> do you guys have any idea on how can i change my openoffice theme on ubuntu 9.04?
[04:59] <EricJ1186> the error said "cp: cannot stat 'ctxfi.ko': No Such file Directory
[05:00] <scunizi> Takai31: one of those aggravating issues.. good luck
[05:00] <Dyno> losher: so all in all, does ubuntu have any advantages over mint?
[05:00] <Takai31> Thanks Scunizi heh
[05:00] <cober555> is there any sort of ubuntu channel i can just chill and chat in?
[05:00] <Dyno> yeah
[05:00] <Dyno> right here cober
[05:00] <lstarnes> Dyno: it's more stable and has a stronger community
[05:00] <Dyno> this place is chill
[05:00] <scunizi> cober555: #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:00] <cober555> alright thanks
[05:01] <losher> Dyno: it seems slightly more stable on laptop hardware, fewer wireless problems. Other than that, only that some people seem to prefer it.
[05:01] <c0mp13371331337> Anyone else having problems with gksu or gksudo freezing the system?  Whatever program I try to run with root privileges using either command just freezes the system.  But not the whole system, only the apps I click on after executing the command.  Sometimes I'm able to get to the System Monitor and kill the gksudo process, sometimes I have to drop to another TTY and kill things from there.  Anyone else seeing this in Jaunty?
[05:01] <rainwalker> it it normal that acpi is not installed on my machine?
[05:02] <sevodnya> tony_faceless, i'm not quite sure what to offer you, rm has always been iffy; you could try looking at medibuntu and seeing if it has any additional support for rm.
[05:02] <losher> Dyno: i ran it in vmware to see what the fuss was about, and the answer was, not much difference...
[05:02] <EricJ1186> did anyone know why I returned that error? I was trying to install the Xfi sound drivers
[05:02] <JECHO> tony_faceless whats your problem?
[05:03] <Chr|s> anyone here familiar with lm-sensors and mind if I borrow a few minutes of your time?
[05:03] <scunizi> EricJ1186: you can't just run make install.. you have to run make first then make install
[05:03] <bill15068> hello
[05:03] <scunizi> EricJ1186: typically
[05:03] <EricJ1186> OH, wow... dumb me...
[05:03] <Chr|s> don't forget ./configure
[05:03] <tony_faceless> JECHO: looking for a media player or codec that handles rm's
[05:03] <bill15068> doing anyone know what the room is for the incident room in here
[05:03] <c0mp13371331337> Chr|s: What do you need?
[05:03] <scunizi> ./configure isn't in his instructions
[05:03] <bill15068> does
[05:03] <lstarnes> bill15068: incident room?
[05:03] <JECHO> tony_faceless have you trie dmplayer?
[05:03] <scunizi> that's already been done in the tar.gz
[05:04] <EricJ1186> awesome, I think my sound works now
[05:04] <bill15068> yes incident broadcast room
[05:04] <sagredo> Hi. I've installed Adobe AIR, installed the libgnome-keying.so.0.1.1, but the install from http://www.tweetdeck.com/beta/ is not working. Any ideas?
[05:04] <JECHO> tony_faceless mplayer**
[05:04] <bill15068> for teamspeak
[05:04] <lstarnes> bill15068: I don't understand what you mean by that
[05:04] <tony_faceless> JECHO: yes
[05:04] <Chr|s> c0mp13371331337: have a look at this thread, it explains it better in detail http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2780&page=33#325
[05:04] <EricJ1186> do I need the ctrl + alt +f2? or can I use the desktop terminal?
[05:04] <bill15068> theres a room here
[05:04] <losher> bill15068: are you saying you've found a major security hole? I'm not sure what else would be considered an 'incident'?
[05:04] <tony_faceless> JECHO: can't handle the file
[05:04] <witt> I have the ntel® Wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN network card and cant connect to my home wireless but can connect everywhere else i have tried ndiswrapper and still nothing can anyone help
[05:04] <lstarnes> EricJ1186: either should work
[05:04] <EricJ1186> k, thank you
[05:04] <tony_faceless> JECHO: "Cannot find codec matching selected -vo and video format 0x30335652."
[05:04] <JECHO> tony_faceless go to jechonet.blogspot.com and read my tutorial on how to add/install medibuntu.
[05:05] <bill15068> no theres a room here that teamspeak has
[05:05] <scunizi> EricJ1186: for the nvidia drivers? you have to ctrl+alt+f2.. and then kill the desktop with sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[05:05] <bill15068> for fire police and ems
[05:05] <bill15068> im trying to find the name of it
[05:05] <bill15068> was hoping someone could help
[05:05] <lstarnes> bill15068: this is an irc network
[05:05] <bill15068> yes i know
[05:05] <chaorain> I'm trying to shrink the /var partition (XFS) an old 8.10 install. deleted it, made a new one, put all the files back on, modified /etc/fstab but /var wont mount. Help?
[05:05] <EricJ1186> I tried the ctrl + alt + f2, and it didn't do anything
[05:05] <JECHO> tony_faceless its in the post titled " 7 things to do after a fresh ubuntu 8.10 installation... what release are you running?
[05:05] <scunizi> or F3 or F4 or F5
[05:06] <tony_faceless> JECHO: 8.10
[05:06] <EricJ1186> nothing
[05:06] <patrick> i really enjoying free softwares
[05:06] <witt> can anyone help with my wireless problem
[05:06] <losher> bill15068: as far as I know, we have nothing to do with teamspeak. We're a real-time computer support channel. Nothing at all to do with fire police or ems
[05:06] <tony_faceless> JECHO: I'll check this out, thanks
[05:06] <JECHO> tony_faceless ok then yeah, jsut follow my tutorial that should fix your problem
[05:06] <matt_> Anyone seen this yet? Everyone probably has: http://www.hmrgroup.co.uk
[05:06] <c0mp13371331337> Chr|s: Ahhh yes, erroneous sensors output.  I have the same problem with mine.  On my system, a couple of the temps are negative and fan3 isn't listed, because it's not plugged in on my mobo.  I'm not sure why it wouldn't be showing all your cores though, as it shows mine just fine (Intel Core 2 Quad Q6700)
[05:06] <scunizi> EricJ1186: that's totally out of the ordinary.. you might consider rebooting to see if that clears something preventing you from doing it.
[05:07] <witt> I have been trying to get thiis to work for a few days now
[05:07] <matt_> Check out the logo: http://www.hmrgroup.co.uk
[05:07] <scunizi> matt_: that look like a clear violation of copywrite
[05:07] <Chr|s> c0mp13371331337: yeah, I'm just waiting to hear back from some people on that thread and see what they say, I'm not sure what else to do really
[05:07] <c0mp13371331337> Chr|s: I take it you've already run through the setup process and loaded the necessary modules as detailed in said setup process?
[05:08] <Chr|s> c0mp13371331337: Yes
[05:08] <EricJ1186> all right; might it be my keyboard?  I have a Microsoft Natural Ergonomic 7000 and it requires software
[05:08] <matt_> scunizi: Do you know of the appropriate person at Canonical that I should get in contact with?
[05:08] <chaorain> I'm trying to shrink the /var partition (XFS) an old 8.10 install. deleted it, made a new one, put all the files back on, modified /etc/fstab but /var wont mount. Help?
[05:08] <scunizi> EricJ1186: you might try changing your keyboard in System/Admin/keyboard to a Microsoft Natural
[05:09] <EricJ1186> ah okay
[05:09] <EricJ1186> thanks for the help; I'll try all that
[05:09] <scunizi> matt_: I don't unfortunately.. however filing a bug might get the attention of the right people..
[05:09] <LeeDawg> i am in (dire) need of some printer help
[05:09] <scunizi> !bugs | matt_
[05:10] <LeeDawg> How do i set up my HP printed to print with page 1 as its last page?
[05:10] <witt> Can anyone help me with ntel® Wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN driver issues
[05:10] <matt_> ubottu: It's not a bug: This website has probably violated copyright: http://www.hmrgroup.co.uk
[05:10] <JECHO> witt whats the issue
[05:10] <chaorain> can someone help me with the fstab
[05:10] <RHorse> apropos cell
[05:10] <c0mp13371331337> Chr|s: Hmmm, then I can't say I'd be of much help besides that.  Mine worked suitably well after setting it up, didn't have to tweek anything and felt I could live with the few erroneous entries.  Here's my sensors output, if it helps at all: http://pastebin.com/m15eafbbf
[05:11] <scunizi> matt_: ubottu is a bott.. I had it send you the link to show you how to file a bug.. might get the attention of the right people.
[05:11] <Enissay> is there any disk manager for jaunty?
[05:11] <witt> I have tried using ndiswrapper and still not connecting to my home wireless network
[05:11] <jrgp> Enissay, gparted
[05:11]  * LeeDawg needs printer help
[05:11] <jrgp> chaorain, http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html
[05:11] <JECHO> enissay you need to install the gnoeme partition manager.... get it from the add/remove progs list
[05:11] <Chr|s> c0mp13371331337: ok I'll take a look, thanks
[05:11] <witt> I can connect to the neighbors unsecured network but not my WEP passphrase
[05:11]  * LeeDawg is taping his toes....
[05:12] <scunizi> Enissay: or sudo apt-get install gparted.. then the partition manager will show up on System/Admin/partition manager
[05:12] <matt_> scunizi: thx
[05:12] <c0mp13371331337> Enissay: Like, the Disk Usage Anylizer, or the Partition Editor?
[05:12] <chaorain> jrgp, ty
[05:12] <jrgp> yw /np
[05:12] <Enissay> it's just to handle mount/unmount point
[05:13] <jrgp> guys, my gimp just stopped working
[05:13] <c0mp13371331337> Enissay: I believe there's a panel applet that will do that for you.
[05:13] <jrgp> when ran from terminal, no output. it just dies instantly
[05:13] <witt> any ideas JECHO
[05:13] <sevodnya> jrgp, do you get a segfault?
[05:13] <Enissay> c0mp13371331337, where?
[05:13] <c0mp13371331337> Enissay: Right click empty space on panel > Add to Panel... > Disk Mounter
[05:13] <jrgp> no
[05:13] <jrgp> sevodnya, if I did I'd suspect my ram
[05:14] <jrgp> sevodnya, literally, it just closes without any output
[05:14] <chaorain> jrgp, um its out of date there isn't anything about UUID
[05:14] <JECHO> witt im private messaging you
[05:14] <jrgp> chaorain, oh, do sudo blkid
[05:14] <ejv> greetings, I have a tmpfs filesystem that I made too small, how can I give it more space on the fly? can it be done?
[05:14] <witt> ok
[05:14] <jrgp> that says the uuid's
[05:15] <chaorain> jrgp, I have tried that but /var won't mount
[05:15] <jrgp> chaorain, that folder has a lot of stuff in it. logs and such
[05:15] <sevodnya> jrgp, try killall gimp and then try starting it again.
[05:15] <jrgp> I did
[05:15] <c0mp13371331337> ejv: You'll have to unmount that disk, and the disk that you want to take space from.  It can easily be done using the standard Ubuntu LiveCD.
[05:15] <jrgp> killall -9 gimp
[05:15] <jrgp> no output
[05:15] <jrgp> "no command running with that name"
[05:15] <jrgp> er, "gimp: no process killed"
[05:16] <Enissay> c0mp13371331337, nice one :), but  i need also to change the mount point, and made it auto...(auto mount)
[05:16] <ejv> c0mp13371331337: thanks
[05:16] <sevodnya> jrgp, how about gimp -v
[05:16] <losher> ejv: google says yes: http://opensource.dyc.edu/tinhat-quickstart-manage-ram, dunno if it works in Ubuntu, at your own risk....
[05:16] <ejv> i think if i edit /etc/fstab
[05:16] <jrgp> sevodnya, that lists several versions of packages
[05:16] <ejv> then remount
[05:16] <ejv> it shoudl work
[05:16] <chaorain> jrgp, I know. I need to fix that
[05:16] <ejv> ima try
[05:16] <FloodBot2> ejv: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:17] <Kaila> Bu3nK_06
[05:17] <c0mp13371331337> Enissay: Well there's no front-end that I'm aware of that will do that, but the file /etc/fstab controls the automatic mounting of drives and mountpoints of those drives.
[05:17] <jrgp> chaorain, /var is not a fake folder like /proc. if it's messed up, just backup your /home and reinstall
[05:18] <chaorain> jrgp, I have it backed up and am trying to restore it. Just need it to mount
[05:18] <jrgp> chaorain, it's just a normal folder under /. if that's mounted it, then it is
[05:18] <jrgp> unless you specifically have it under a different partition
[05:18] <sevodnya> jrgp: try gimp --new-instance
[05:19] <jrgp> sevodnya, interesting. that started it
[05:19] <jrgp> thanks
[05:19] <Takai31> Is there anyway to get the Ubuntu install to do a more verbose mode so I can see what's actually failing during the install process?
[05:19] <chaorain> jrgp, It's a seperate partition
[05:19] <jrgp> Takai31, use alternate install cd
[05:19] <yao_ziyuan> offtopic, but if a malicious website uses javascript to secretly visit hotmail or gmail, and suppose my hotmail/gmail automatically logs in, can that malicious website get my mails?
[05:19] <JECHO> takai31 install from the alternate CD
[05:19] <lstarnes> yao_ziyuan: possibly
[05:19] <Takai31> What's the difference between the live and the alternate?
[05:19] <scunizi> Takai31: you could use the alternate install cd
[05:19] <sevodnya> jrgp, gimp has code to make new files open in the already-open instance, and that seems to get messed up at times; worst-case, restarting will fix it.
[05:20] <JECHO> alternate is text based
[05:20] <lstarnes> Takai31: the alternate just installs, but has more options
[05:20] <JECHO> so you can see the errors
[05:20] <Takai31> Ah ok
[05:20] <yao_ziyuan> lstarnes: how to prevent?
[05:20] <jrgp> sevodnya, thanks for the info :)
[05:20] <Takai31> Thanks :)
[05:20] <chaorain> jrgp, http://paste-it.net/public/mf0f28d/
[05:20] <lstarnes> yao_ziyuan: make sure you're using a secure browser and avoid going near potentially infected sites
[05:21] <losher> lstarnes, yao_ziyuan: the fact that it doesn't appear to have already happened yet suggests it's not as easy to do as it sounds.
[05:22] <fluxy> Uh hello, can anyone knowing how to make usb devices work in virtualbox (guest: Windows) please help me do same? I'm running Jaunty. Thanks
[05:23] <Takai31> Alright extremely stupid question, where can I grab the alternate cd image from? :)
[05:23] <lstarnes> Takai31: the same place you get the normal cd from
[05:23] <ejv> c0mp13371331337: my way worked, simply edited fstab, then did mount -o remount <mountpoint>, badda bing :)
[05:23] <scunizi> fluxy: to get usb to work in vbox you have to install the version direct from vbox.. not the one from the repos
[05:23] <Takai31> I actually grabbed the image off the site but not seeing a link anywhere for the alternate heh :)
[05:23] <cober555> i cant get my mic to work on ubuntu
[05:23] <cober555> never could
[05:24] <cober555> i googled and tried several times
[05:24] <fluxy> scunizi: Is it free as well?
[05:24] <cober555> with different methods
[05:24] <cober555> nothing
[05:24] <lstarnes> Takai31: look for a link referencing the 'Text based "alternate installer" installation disc"
[05:24] <lstarnes> *disk
[05:24] <scunizi> fluxy: there is no $$ cost but it does have some propiatory codecs that make it non-free.
[05:24] <fluxy> Takai31: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#alternate
[05:24] <yao_ziyuan> losher: good
[05:24] <mohan_> My OS has hanged to keyboard and mouse on login screen.. please anybody help me!!!
[05:25] <fluxy> scunizi: Thanks. I need it to use windows live messenger for webcamming.
[05:25] <mohan_> My complete production has been stalled!!!
[05:25] <Takai31> Thanks :)  Just went directly to the mit mirror for it
[05:25] <MegafiPod> reboot
[05:25] <Administ1ator> i can talk on IRC
[05:25] <scunizi> Administ1ator: did you say something?
[05:25] <EdwardXP> lol :P
[05:26] <fluxy> Takai31: Yeah, u need to select the mirror first to get alt cd. just saw that.
[05:26] <mohan_> Please anybody..
[05:26] <lstarnes> mohan_: when did that start happening?
[05:26] <mohan_> from yesterday when i upgrade something from jaunty..
[05:26] <mohan_> using UBUNTU STUDIO 8.10
[05:26] <mohan_> 64 bit..
[05:27] <Matz> I have recently installed UNR 9.04 on my netbook with a ssd drive. When I boot I see that Ubuntu uses ext3 as file system. Shouldn't I use the ext2 instead of ext3 on my netbook with ssd?
[05:27] <lstarnes> Matz: ext3 should work
[05:27] <scunizi> Matz: why.. ext2 doesn't have journaling
[05:27] <DaZ> with jurnaling turned off <:
[05:28] <DaZ> which technically makes it ext2
[05:28] <lstarnes> DaZ: does journaling really have that bad of an effect?  It seems rather unlikely
[05:28] <DaZ> because journalling kills ssd <:
[05:28] <Matz> lstarnes: Yeah, but Linpus Lite the original system used ext2?
[05:28] <chaorain> can someone help? /var does not mount on 2nd ubuntu http://paste-it.net/public/mf0f28d/
[05:28] <DaZ> well it doesn't have any good effect and i think it's quite useless
[05:28] <JECHO> matz you should have used ext4. im using it on my eee pc
[05:28] <JECHO> mats works great
[05:29] <lstarnes> DaZ: it does reduce the likelyhood of data loss
[05:29] <jrgp> chaorain, what does sudo mount /var do?
[05:29] <Matz> scunizi: I know but because it's a ssd then it will not write that much to the ssd using ext2 instead of ext3 and then the system will run faster on ssd?
[05:29] <mohan_> pls.. i can't re install everything.. now..
[05:29] <losher> matz: no clear consensus, according to http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?id=25387
[05:29] <DaZ> lstarnes: backups reduce it
[05:29] <DaZ> relying only on journaling is stupid
[05:29] <Matz> JECHO: Ok, but I used the standard installation and it automatically installed ext3.
[05:29] <lstarnes> DaZ: journaling does at least provide some help
[05:30] <scunizi> Matz: would you really notice it? probably not
[05:30] <JECHO> matz yeah thats ok... nothing wrong with ext3
[05:30] <Matz> losher: Ok, well I don't know what to think. Somebody says I shall use ext2 because it will run faster and be better on my ssd because of lesser writing to the ssd.
[05:31] <Matz> scunizi: I have no idea if I would notice it.
[05:31] <DaZ> you can always put journal on different device
[05:31] <losher> matz: http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?id=25387, the entry by mkrishnan
[05:31] <lstarnes> Matz: it would probably not have much of a difference
[05:31] <omac> anyone using apt-p2p yet?
[05:31] <chaorain> jrgp, um havn't tried but I want it to auto mount
[05:31] <mohan_> nobody have a clue what would have been happened?
[05:31] <jrgp> chaorain, that will tell you why it isn't mounting
[05:32] <lstarnes> mohan_: it might have something to do with input device hotplugging
[05:32] <Matz> Ok, thanks a lot for your help, I will stick with ext3 and go on cusomizing my netbook.
[05:32] <lstarnes> mohan_: if hal and dbus are working, hotplugging should work
[05:32] <koshari> it would appear vino is broken on 9.04 the screens wont update:-(
[05:32] <Matz> One more question. I have read that there is a bug that makes the panels disappear in UNR 9.04 using the desktop switch. Do you know if it has been fixed in the UNR 9.04 final release?
[05:33] <omac> ls
[05:33] <mohan_> how could i know that? can you pls guide me through this lstarnes?
[05:33] <losher> omac: apparently very few users, which defeats the purpose :-)
[05:33] <mohan_> how to check hal and dbus are working?
[05:33] <chaorain> jrgp, ok need to reboot
[05:33] <lstarnes> mohan_: can you get to a terminal?
[05:33] <mohan_> yeah
[05:33] <lstarnes> mohan_: on the installed system?
[05:33] <mohan_> yes..
[05:33] <mohan_> terminal works..
[05:33] <mohan_> i can login
[05:33] <lstarnes> mohan_: check ps aux | grep hald
[05:33] <omac> losher: I installed it.
[05:33] <maxagaz> is there a command to cut some parts of a video, merge it together, and add a logo ? does someone know a wiki about doing that on ubuntu ?
[05:34] <lstarnes> mohan_: and ps aux | grep dbus-daemon
[05:34] <jrgp> chaorain, using the mount command instead of rebooting a million times will save you some time
[05:34] <losher> omac: p2p works best when millions of other users also install it.
[05:34] <lstarnes> mohan_: or you could do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:35] <mohan_> as i am doing on the same system i need to shutdown and restart to boot on problematic system..
[05:35] <mohan_> i will write down your suggestion and try it out..
[05:36] <chaorain> jrgp, um it mounts just fine on 9.04 (currently using) but on 8.10 (old one) it doesn't auto mount. The /var belongs to 8.10
[05:36] <jrgp> chaorain, ouch.
[05:36] <omac> well there should be great motivation to use it if it reduces package download times significantly.
[05:36] <mohan_> i will be back lstarnes..
[05:37] <jrgp> chaorain, back up what's needed in /var and reinstall the latest over it all
[05:37] <mohan_> thanks for your suggetions..
[05:37] <Matz> Anyone knows if the bug that makes the desktop panels disappear after rebot if one has used the desktop switch is fixed or if I have to fix the bug myself?
[05:37] <losher> omac: I don't disagree. But notice not a single other person has said they're using it. I'm guessing it won't really get going until it's the default in Ubuntu
[05:38] <omac> Everyone knows how fast it is to download the ubuntu iso from bittorrent.  Well, if they want the same kind of fast download experience for individual package installations, I would venture it's only a matter of time before apt-p2p will become popular.
[05:38] <chaorain> jrgp, When ever I tried to manually change the fstab I fail miserably.
[05:38] <Blime> Is it possible to install Ubuntu to an encrypted LVM from the Live CD, or do I have to use the Alternative CD?
[05:39] <ericJ1186> k... so I rebooted and the start up screen took along time to load
[05:39] <scunizi> Blime: alternate.. but even with that I'm not sure you can on a partition that's already encrypted
[05:40] <omac> losher:  you do have a point about apt-p2p ideally becoming the default package manager in Ubuntu.
[05:40] <Blime> scunizi: well, i mean have the installer create the encrypted LVM
[05:40] <scunizi> Blime: ah.. only the alternate can do that
[05:40] <ericJ1186> when it booted, it showed a black screen with white text, got to "Loading Hardware drivers"
[05:40] <Blime> scunizi: thanks!!!
[05:40] <gharz> guys, is there any apps that i can modify/add/delete music files in my ipod? any idea?
[05:40] <Takai31> p2p wouldn't work as a default protocol for package management right now.  Too many ISP's are throttling traffic to try and put an end to torrent/p2p.  For a huge number of users, getting updates would become extremely painful.
[05:41] <scunizi> !ipod | gharz
[05:41] <omac> That said, there should be some kind of control over how much upload bandwidth we give to apt-p2p out of our entire upload bandwidth.
[05:41] <ericJ1186> then it said "udevd-event[3113]" run_program: '/sbin/modprobe' abnormal exit [Fail] - in red
[05:41] <Matz> Thanks for the help with the file system issue. Have to go now.
[05:41] <losher> omac: I am merely making the observation that apt-p2p does not seem to be anywhere near the critical mass it needs to be useful yet. Isn't that why you asked?
[05:41] <ericJ1186> and it hands on "Loading drivers manually"
[05:41] <tanath> anyone know how to recover a damaged ext4 filesystem?
[05:41] <omac> losher:  You're right.   It's not at critical mass yet.
[05:42] <tanath> i don't want to lose my data >.<
[05:42] <gharz> thAnks
[05:42] <tanath> fsck seems to think it's ext3/2
[05:42] <DaZ> tanath: testdisk? :f
[05:42] <chaorain> jrgp, Can you tell me what I did wrong with fstab? http://paste-it.net/public/mf0f28d/
[05:42] <ericJ1186> anyone?  I am only able to load Ubuntu off the boot disk
[05:42] <jrgp> lemme see...
[05:43] <omac> That said there needs to be some way in the preferences->administration to control the apt-p2p upload bandwidth through synaptic.
[05:43] <losher> tanath: there's not a lot of experience with ext4 out there as it's so new. Can you read the filesystem & copy files off it?
[05:43] <omac> synaptic would need to become very cozy with apt-p2p.
[05:43] <tanath> DaZ, according to the package description, it doesn't work with ext4
[05:44] <omac> This will relieve the mirrors, if all goes well.
[05:44] <lscott3> whats up peepole?
[05:44] <tanath> losher, no, i can't. says unknown filesystem >.<
[05:44] <jrgp> chaorain, looks ok. here's mine: http://jrgp.us/snipplets/fstab
[05:44] <tanath> losher, all i did was reboot
[05:44] <lscott3> is it possible to mix video cards? ati/nvidia?
[05:44] <Takai31> What does the boot option persistent mean?
[05:44] <lscott3> for multi monitor purposes?
[05:44] <scunizi> lscott3: yes but not easily
[05:45] <lscott3> scunizi: with compiz?
[05:45] <lscott3> i can get my 3rd (ati) to show up but it acts like its connected to a different box
[05:45] <lscott3> and not seamless at all
[05:45] <scunizi> lscott3: maybe.. you'll have to become very familure with writing your own xorg.conf and using xrandr or randr.. not for the light hearted
[05:45] <tanath> doesn't ext4 have journaling? i thought this kind of thing shouldn't happen?
[05:46] <ericJ1186> can anyone help me, please?
[05:46] <losher> tanath: can you run /sbin/fsck.ext4 directly ?
[05:46] <lscott3> so it would be easier to just use two nvidia cards PCIe and PCI?
[05:46] <losher> tanath: I personally don't consider ext4 ready for prime time.
[05:46] <scunizi> lscott3: probably
[05:46] <lscott3> i needs my 3rd monitor!
[05:46] <lscott3> it feels like having one eye
[05:46] <lscott3> lol
[05:47] <tanath> losher, why's that?
[05:47] <ericJ1186> hello>
[05:47] <jrgp> chaorain, try putting tabs between the uuid= and /
[05:47] <tanath> losher, i thought it was basically an improvement on ext3
[05:47] <chaorain> jrgp, k
[05:48] <sa__> hello!
[05:48] <losher> tanath: it's new. new means less stable. unstable is bad when it comes to filesystems....
[05:48] <tanath> there's a lot of errors >.<
[05:49] <chaorain> jrgp, wait you mean between UUID= /var ?
[05:49] <losher> tanath: but it's running at least? You're the 2nd person I've seen here saying their ext4 spontaneously corrupted itself.
[05:49] <jrgp> chaorain, I mean between uuid=[the iiod] then a tab before the mount pount
[05:49] <jrgp> point*
[05:49] <Optimus55> I'm volunteering at an open source summer camp. but there's a guy i work with, with a really high pitched voice that's scaring me. What should I do??
[05:50] <DaZ> losher: ext4 deleted my kernel once
[05:50] <ejv> ask in  offtopic?
[05:50] <ejv> lol
[05:50] <ericJ1186> Can anyone help me?
[05:50] <losher> DaZ: was that a joke?
[05:50] <tanath> losher, well, i rebooted while downloading to the drive, but it should have shut down, or prompted me to close the app first if it didn't shut down in time...
[05:50] <DaZ> no
[05:50] <ejv> why are people using ext4.... that's illadvised
[05:50] <scunizi> Optimus55: wear earplugs
[05:50] <DaZ> i had to do hard reboot
[05:50] <|shiretoko> what's wrong with ext4
[05:50] <chaorain> jrgp, ok / mounts fine but /var is the problem so I'll try that then reboot and see if it works
[05:50] <jrgp> DaZ, if you're going to use ext4, I suggest keeping your /boot partition on a 100MB ext3
[05:50] <DaZ> ejv: because it's fast
[05:50] <lstarnes> ericJ1186: it could be related to that module you built
[05:51] <DaZ> jrgp: now i keep it on ext3
[05:51] <ejv> DaZ: I don't consider it ready, but yea I've seen benchmarks :)
[05:51] <tanath> from what i read about it, it was an improvement on ext3
[05:51] <ericJ1186> all I did was type sudo make
[05:51] <DaZ> anyway, i liked reiser4 more
[05:51] <ericJ1186> then sudo make install
[05:51] <ericJ1186> restart, crash
[05:51] <fornix> I've been using reiserfs for the last few years without a problem. i see no reason to use ext4
[05:51] <losher> ext4 is faster, but less stable. Call me old-fashioned, but in filesystems, stable trumps fast, every time...
[05:51] <ericJ1186> in the director of my driver stuff
[05:51] <Optimus55> scunizi: i have to work with him. its so weird i never met anyone like that before. he has a beard but talks like a 5 year old
[05:51] <lstarnes> ericJ1186: that could do it if the deiver doesn't work with your kernel version
[05:51] <lstarnes> *driver
[05:51] <juxta> is it possible to migrate a dm-crypt encrypted volume not using LUKS to LUKS?
[05:52] <ericJ1186> how do I find my kernel version, how do I find the driver for it, and how do I reverse this?
[05:52] <losher> isn't the reiserfs author currently in jail?
[05:52] <scunizi> Optimus55: visualize him with pectoral accentuators and a dress and then the voice won't be so bothersome
[05:52] <fornix> losher: yeah for murdering his wife
[05:52] <juxta> losher: yeah
[05:52] <DaZ> he i
[05:52] <DaZ> s
[05:52] <Optimus55> ....
[05:52] <DaZ> they should release him
[05:53] <Optimus55> okay. i guess..
[05:53] <sKant> clearscreen:
[05:53] <charles__> net
[05:53] <sKant> clearscree
[05:53] <sKant> clearscreen
[05:53] <linux> hol
[05:53] <lstarnes> sKant: what are you trying to do?
[05:53] <sKant> sorry
[05:53] <Sagaci> what's the advantage of using gksudo vs sudo for gui apps?
[05:53] <juxta> sKant: /clear or /clearscreen maybe?
[05:53] <Optimus55> see you guys. oh if anyone is interested btw, the same open source thing i'm volunteering for it putting all the videos online for everyone to see. jus google for foss
[05:53] <Optimus55> see ya
[05:54] <losher> Optimus55: be nice to hi,. He probably can't help it and wishes it were otherwise...
[05:54] <sKant> oh thanks
[05:54] <lstarnes> Sagaci: gksudo is designed specifically for graphical programs
[05:54] <DaZ> Sagaci: cute window?
[05:54] <snowcavalier> anyone know if safari runs under wine?
[05:54] <Optimus55> losher: i thought so, i want to be his friend but its jus really strange.. i have a super deep voice and his is realllly high..
[05:54] <Optimus55> he's cool tho
[05:54] <lstarnes> Sagaci: it also handles the environment differently
[05:54] <Sagaci> but is it a security risk of any kind to just use sudo rather than gksudo
[05:54] <tanath> sKant, cltr+l will prolly do the job too
[05:54] <lscott3> snowcavalier: I think Safari is Konquer or whatever its called
[05:55] <lscott3> so you can get away with using that
[05:55] <lstarnes> Sagaci: it might cause things to behave unexpectedlt
[05:55] <lstarnes> *unexpectedly
[05:55] <ericJ1186> how do I reverse this so I can put the right driver in?
[05:55] <debam> hi to all, i am havinig ATI Techna Inc ES1000 graphics card agter doing /etc/init.d/gdm restart...i am not getting gui login
[05:55] <losher> Optimus55: kids can be really unforgiving about anything different. I wouldn't go through that again if you paid me. <shudders>
[05:55] <Orange_v_Blue> snowcavalier: I wouldn't think so, you would probably need a diff emulator... Unless it's a windows version of safari?
[05:56] <lscott3> snowcavalier: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=98430
[05:56] <Optimus55> losher: freal. cool man. thanks for the info. see ya
[05:56] <snowcavalier> Orange_v_Blue: yeah they make a windows version
[05:56] <snowcavalier> lscott3: thanks
[05:57] <ericJ1186> any suggestions?
[05:57] <Optimus55> btw i'm 23 and he's my age. but sounds like 5. that's why its so strange
[05:57] <RichiV> can someone help me mount my memory stick pro duo on my computer
[05:57]  * Optimus55 appears offline
[05:57] <Orange_v_Blue> optimus55: way off topic dude, drop it already please?
[05:57] <Shapeshifter> Do you know if I can delete the "System volume information" folder off an ntfs partition when I'm not using it with windows anymore?
[05:57] <Sagaci> is there a way to d/l ubuntu restricted extras as a .deb but without installing
[05:58] <lscott3> Who wants to take on a multi monitor project? raise your hand
[05:58] <Orange_v_Blue> (hides)
[05:58] <RichiV> can someone help me mount my memory stick pro duo?
[05:58] <orange-wedge> Richiv whats the physical drive name.... with sudo fdisk -l
[05:58] <DaZ> Shapeshifter: i deleted it and it didn't cause any problems on windows
[05:58] <Optimus55> Orange_v_Blue: you're mean... :(
[05:59] <Shapeshifter> DaZ: k.
[05:59] <RichiV> orange-wedge: it doesnt say
[05:59] <RichiV> would u like me to pastebin?
[06:00] <byte-> hello
[06:00] <orange-wedge> yeah
[06:00] <losher> Sagaci: you can download debs without installing using apt-get --download-only. The debs will be in /var/cache/apt/archives. Dunno how far you can get as the dependencies won't get updated until you actually install...
[06:00] <ericJ1186> how do I find the driver I need? http://opensource.creative.com/soundcard.html - I went there, but it just had the drivers listed by dates, not kernel versions
[06:00] <byte-> so I'm trying to upgrade from 8.04 to 9.04
[06:00] <byte-> I'm following the guide at http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[06:00] <losher> Optimus55: no, he's right. It's well off-topic. Time to stop & do some actual support....
[06:00] <byte-> but...uhh, it's not working
[06:01] <byte-> it doesn't seem to recognize that there's a new release
[06:01] <byte-> because I'm not getting the "new distribution release '9.04' available" text in update manager
[06:01] <byte-> any ideas?
[06:01] <Evil_saltine> "You can only directly upgrade to Ubuntu 9.04 from Ubuntu 8.10 (see UpgradeNotes). "
[06:01] <byte-> ah
[06:01] <brianski> is there a way to get thunderbird notifications in the fancy new intrepid notification thing?
[06:02] <byte-> thanks
[06:02] <Evil_saltine> np
[06:02] <ericJ1186> can anyone maybe message me and help me out?
[06:02] <RichiV> orange-wedge: http://paste.ubuntu.com/172763/
[06:02] <byte-> that sucks :-/
[06:02] <lscott3> brb - not that anyone cares :P
[06:02] <tanath> ext4 doesn't support compression?
[06:02] <brianski> lscott3 - i lve you and i'm having your baby!!
[06:02] <Orange_v_Blue> I actually wanted to know about a possible fix for the FGLRX (ati driver) for 9.04, is there going to be any hope there?
[06:03] <orange-wedge> RichiV... this one is your memory stick....  /dev/sdb1   *           1       61504     7872495+   b  W95 FAT32
[06:03] <Jaredster> hi
[06:03] <Evil_saltine> hi
[06:03] <tanath> Orange_v_Blue, fix? what's the issue?
[06:03] <Jaredster> just a quick question.
[06:03] <Jaredster> Is there any way to change the orientation of the windows if you isntall a right-to-left font
[06:04] <orange-wedge> so try running the following:  sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
[06:04] <losher> tanath: still playing filesystem russian-roulette?
[06:04] <DaZ> Jaredster: you can change button order
[06:04] <RichiV> orange-wedge ok ill try
[06:04] <tanath> losher, still holding down 'y' to fix errors :P
[06:04] <RichiV> orange-wedge: nothing happened
[06:05] <tanath> hoping _something_ might be salvaged
[06:05] <Jaredster> how do I do that?
[06:05] <orange-wedge> RichiV now ls /mnt
[06:05] <losher> tanath: very scary. Might not be much left...
[06:05] <RichiV> orange-wedge: ok
[06:05] <DaZ> somewhere in gconf
[06:05] <RichiV> orange-wedge: only shows one thing
[06:05] <Jaredster> :/
[06:05] <DaZ> i don't use gnome
[06:05] <RichiV> orange-wedge: and it is my flash drive
[06:05] <Orange_v_Blue> tanath: Some computers it won't work on anymore or something. mine's old enough that it's apparently not supported, or something? I'm not sure, I just know it will not work anymore.
[06:05] <tanath> losher, somehow it got supremely fubared
[06:06] <orange-wedge> ok can you pastebin the output of:  mount
[06:06] <tanath> Orange_v_Blue, was working fine until i rebooted while torrenting
[06:06] <RichiV> orange-wedge: sure
[06:06] <myself> hey whats the IRC command to see people who are in two channels, but shows the people who are only in both channels?
[06:06] <losher> tanath: bugs in the ext4 code I expect. They really didn't make the state of ext4 clear enough in the 9.04 release notes
[06:06] <bc> tanath: I've seen some absolutely horrible stuff from fsck and the machine booted fine :D
[06:07] <RichiV> http://paste.ubuntu.com/172766/
[06:07] <RichiV> orange-wedge: http://paste.ubuntu.com/172766/
[06:07] <tanath> bc, it boots fine. it's not my main partition. ;)
[06:07] <myself> anyone know..that command?
[06:07] <tanath> i've seen 140Gb of data recovered by fsck just fine on ext3...
[06:07] <bc> tanath: I should have said, "there was nothing at all wrong with the filesystem upon rebooting"
[06:08] <tanath> and ext4 has journaling to, so i'm hoping for the best :P
[06:08] <Orange_v_Blue> tanath: mine says when I go to upgrade that there is no version for my system. I really appreciate the graphics with it
[06:08] <orange-wedge> RichiV did you have a folder Documents on you memory stick?
[06:08] <tanath> bc, oh. maybe i should have simply rebooted again
[06:08] <myself> like i want to know who is both in #ubuntu and #help, what command would I type in to see people who are in both channels (not in just one, but only people who are in both would show up)
[06:08] <RichiV> orange-wedge: yes it is the main folder
[06:08] <orange-wedge> its mounted
[06:08] <bc> tanath: ok, ok, ok ;)
[06:08] <tanath> Orange_v_Blue, sorry, misread your quote due to forgetting context
[06:08] <RichiV> orange:wedge: but it is not the one that i want to mount
[06:08] <Orange_v_Blue> tanath: too many orange people, lol
[06:08] <tanath> er, comment
[06:09] <orange-wedge> ???
[06:09] <orange-wedge> what do you mean?
[06:09] <RichiV> orange-wedge: i am trying to mount a memory stick pro
[06:09] <Evil_saltine> Orange_v_Blue: Do you know exactly what video hardware you have?
[06:09] <orange-wedge> its the wrong folder?
[06:09] <tanath> Orange_v_Blue, rather, i'm switching back & forth
[06:09] <RichiV> orange-wedge: it is a digital meda
[06:09] <Orange_v_Blue> evil_saltine, tanath: ATI Radeon something, what is the terminal command again?
[06:09] <RichiV> orange-wedge: it goes in the same slot as a micro sd
[06:10] <tanath> Orange_v_Blue, lspci?
[06:10] <orange-wedge> awh...
[06:10] <debam> hi to all, i am not getting gui login prompt..getting last log as Restore Timing Tables
[06:10] <debam> Restore TV standard
[06:10] <debam> Leaving Restore TV
[06:10] <orange-wedge> i thought you might have a usb reader
[06:10] <FloridaGuy> whats better...apt-get install ( package name ) or aptitude install ( package name )
[06:10] <Matt> i prefere apt-gert
[06:10] <Matt> i prefere apt-get*
[06:10] <RichiV> orange-wedge: no i dont i'm not the richist kid XD dont have the money for it
[06:10] <Orange_v_Blue> evil_saltine, tanath: ATI Radeon Xpress 200M
[06:11] <orange-wedge> do you have a psp... :)
[06:11] <orange-wedge> jk
[06:11] <dyess002> what is a program i can use to open bin and rar files
[06:11] <RichiV> orange-wedge: i wish.... it belongs to a sony camera
[06:11] <tanath> Matt, apt-get over aptitude??
[06:11] <Evil_saltine> Orange_v_Blue: the older Radeon driver should work for you
[06:11] <tanath> Matt, aptitude has superior dependency resolution
[06:11] <Evil_saltine> Orange_v_Blue: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[06:11] <orange-wedge> hm...
[06:11] <tanath> Matt, and reminds you to remove unneeded packages
[06:12] <Matt> then again im still new to linux
[06:12] <orange-wedge> do you have the card the reader slot?
[06:12] <Orange_v_Blue> evil_saltine: that's just the open source alt right? I heard vague rumblings of something like that...
[06:12] <Caivax> somebody know a tool to analyze the email logs?
[06:12] <RichiV> orange-wedge: what do u mean?
[06:13] <orange-wedge> do you have the card in it now?
[06:13] <RichiV> orange-wedge: oh yes
[06:13] <Evil_saltine> Orange_v_Blue: Yes I believe so, like you said yours is an older adapter, so it is well supported by now
[06:13] <Piet> Caivax: what are "the email log"?
[06:13] <dyess002> what is a program i can use to open bin and rar files
[06:13] <Orange_v_Blue> evil_saltine: thank you SO much!
[06:14] <Evil_saltine> Orange_v_Blue: Just follow the directions there for removing the fglrx driver and then do the section "configuring x.org"
[06:14] <Evil_saltine> Orange_v_Blue: No problem.
[06:14] <orange-wedge> can you please run:   dmesg | tail
[06:14] <arvind_khadri> hi, if i do apt-get install kde that would just install the de right?
[06:14] <losher> dyess002: unrar will open rar files. Not sure about bin files...
[06:14] <Piet> dyess002: what are "bin" files? some image format?
[06:14] <RichiV> orange-wedge: pastebin?
[06:14] <Orange_v_Blue> evil_saltine: what about updating? Should I do the vid driver first, and then update to 9.04, or vice versa?
[06:14] <orange-wedge> yep
[06:15] <Evil_saltine> Orange_v_Blue: I would change the driver first
[06:15] <pyrak> i need some emergency help.  i just rm *
[06:15] <AustinS> So I'm a newb, trying to enable the cube compiz effect I've seen forever. I downloaded CompizConfig Settings Manager, and checked "Desktop Cube" and it says the hotkey is ctrl+alt+down but it doesn't do anything.  With "Desktop Wall" I could ctrl+alt+anyarrow. What am I doing wrong?
[06:15] <fornix> arvind_khadri: it would be better to do a $ sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:15] <pyrak> i just rm * 'd a dir by accident
[06:15] <pyrak> any hope?
[06:15] <Orange_v_Blue> evil_saltine: thank
[06:15] <Caivax> Piet, I need a summary of postfix logs.
[06:15] <Piet> dyess002: if you're looking for a way to handle file archives on gnome, use file-roller and install unrar, too
[06:16] <RichiV> orange-wedge: http://paste.ubuntu.com/172769/
[06:16] <arvind_khadri> fornix, but i dont want the apps of kde...
[06:16] <Evil_saltine> Orange_v_Blue: np.. you'll need to install the package xserver-xorg-video-ati
[06:16] <dyess002> yes, Bin is like a ISO file
[06:16] <dyess002> thanks for the info
[06:16] <pyrak> any hope of recovery after rm * -ing a dir?
[06:16] <losher> dyess002, Piet: bin files are usually image files, and come with an accompanying cue file. Some windows format originally I think. isobuster on windows handles them. Dunno about on Ubuntu
[06:16] <orange-wedge> ok those last two lines are from when you put the card in
[06:16] <PaulieG> i have a question about jaunty, why does any soundfile and movies that i stream all skip? and how can i fix it?
[06:17] <fornix> arvind_khadri: if you only want the libs for running a kde app like amarok, sudo apt-get install amarok would pull it in automatically
[06:17] <cruicial_Thread> i run ubuntu 810. i want to change how gnome aligns the icons on my desktop. instead of the left, i want to have the icons line up on the right. do i make the changes in gconf-editor and what do i change?
[06:17] <RichiV> orange-wedge: i already knew that it was detected, but it just does not show up, and i cannot access the photos and videos on it
[06:17] <dyess002> yea, but I am trying to convert everything to Ubuntu
[06:17] <arvind_khadri> fornix, no see, i want the DE to be present sans its apps
[06:17] <losher> dyess002, Piet: on ubuntu, you can burn bin files to a disk, not sure what else you can do. Anyone?
[06:17] <Piet> Caivax: are you looking for a one-time analysis or for a log monitoring solution?
[06:18] <mib_wk3e0674> Hi, is anyone good with getting DVDs to work? I'm trying to play one with VLC and the restricted extras package, and I'm getting errors that I don't have permission to access the file.
[06:18] <dyess002> If  I can do this,I am through with XP
[06:18] <Piet> Caivax: for log monitoring: logcheck and logwatch analyze common log files. logwatch is not very configurable but does therefore provide a nice overview out of the box. logcheck on the other hand is very configurable but requires tweaking to be really useful.
[06:18] <Matt> all .bin files are more less disk images
[06:18] <dyess002> I would like to mount them like PowerISO
[06:19] <dyess002> It takes a lot of work out of it
[06:19] <Evil_saltine> dyess002: there's a package bchunk that should do what you want
[06:19] <orange-wedge> is it an 8gb stick?
[06:19] <dyess002> thanks,i'll try
[06:19] <fornix> arvind_khadri: maybe kdelibs is the package you need
[06:19] <tracy_> ll
[06:19] <losher> dyess002: I think you can convert them to iso using bin2iso & then mount the iso via the 'loop' device
[06:19] <arvind_khadri> fornix, ok thanks
[06:19] <fornix> !kdelibs
[06:20] <orange-wedge> you could also try:   sudo modprobe tifm_core;  sudo modprobe tifm_sd
[06:20] <fornix> arvind_khadri: check synaptic for the package kdelibs
[06:20] <Orange_v_Blue> While I'm here, I've been having fun with themes lately. Some of them, though, will say something along the lines of "This theme will not work as intended because theme engine ''GTK is missing"... but there is no engine name in the single quotes. Any ideas?
[06:20] <dyess002> can you mount with  bchunk
[06:20] <Evil_saltine> dyess002: sorry, i wasn't clear.. that program will convert a bin/cue to an iso file which you can then access by mounting it with loopback
[06:20] <RichiV> orange-wedge: it is a 1gb stick
[06:20] <orange-wedge> ok
[06:21] <arvind_khadri> fornix, fine
[06:21] <Piet> dyess002, losher: there's bchunk to convert bin/cue files to iso format. after that you can mount the iso or open it with file-roller
[06:21] <dyess002> ok, loopback is the one i need right
[06:21] <mib_wk3e0674> Hi, can anyone help me? :)
[06:21] <orange-wedge> try running the following:  sudo modprobe tifm_core;  sudo modprobe tifm_sd
[06:21] <losher> dyess002, Piet: yeah, looks like bchunk & bin2iso basically do the same thing....
[06:21] <AustinS> ANyone know how to make the cube effect work with compiz? I mean it's enabled but doesnt do anything when I hit the hotkey.  I must be doing something wrong
[06:21] <Piet> ah right
[06:22] <AustinS> Do I need to reboot something?
[06:22] <RichiV> orange-wedge:nothing
[06:22] <mandingo> how do i stop kjournald starting commit internal 5 seconds
[06:22] <dyess002> loopback will mount like powerISO right
[06:22] <orange-wedge> take out the card
[06:22] <Orange_v_Blue> mib_wk3e0674: just ask the question, someone who knows what's going on will answer
[06:22] <orange-wedge> and re-insert it
[06:22] <RichiV> orange-wedge
[06:22] <Orange_v_Blue> mib_wk3e0674: that way you get someone who knows about that the first time
[06:22] <RichiV> now waht?
[06:22] <losher> dyess002: yes, check google for the details on mounting via loopback
[06:22] <Piet> dyess002: like a virtual cd device.
[06:22] <orange-wedge> hm...
[06:23] <Evil_saltine> dyess002: If it can output in iso format then yes
[06:23] <orange-wedge> nothing?
[06:23] <dyess002> right, like virtual cd
[06:23] <Caivax> Piet, I need a tool to review the logs and tell me for example who sent e-mails to some user and from whom has received emails.
[06:23] <PaulieG> how do i fix any sound or videofile from  skipping on jaunty.. i default installed and i dont know how to fix it
[06:23] <PaulieG> im running XFCE4
[06:23] <RichiV> nothing
[06:23] <mib_wk3e0674> Ok, thanks. Well my problem is just that when I try to play DVDs I get a permission denied error.
[06:23] <dyess002> virtual cd is like my heart with me
[06:23] <orange-wedge> hm...
[06:23] <Piet> Caivax: i'm not aware of something like this. but you could scrpt it yourself. may i ask why you need this?
[06:24] <[esde]> what partition editor for ubuntu?
[06:24] <dyess002> got to have it
[06:24] <[esde]> !partition manager
[06:24] <DaZ> [esde]: gparted?
[06:24] <[esde]> DaZ: isnt that for KDE only?
[06:24] <mib_wk3e0674> A friend of mine suggested it might be a mount problem
[06:24] <DaZ> [esde]: it's gtk
[06:24] <[esde]> oh thx
[06:24] <fornix> [esde]: gtparted is a native kde app
[06:24] <[esde]> sudo apt-get install gparted amirite?
[06:25] <fornix> qtparted*
[06:25] <Evil_saltine> mib_wx3e0674: you still need libdvdcss2 I believe
[06:25] <ripdisk> is it normal to see a bunch of SQUASHFS error while loading the ubuntu setup?
[06:25] <mib_wk3e0674> That's not in the restricted extras package?
[06:25] <ripdisk> oh, i'm guessing it's not, because it just took me to a terminal..
[06:25] <ripdisk> heh.
[06:26] <orange-wedge> RichiV what does the sudo fdisk -l show now?
[06:26] <Evil_saltine> mib_wk3e0674: no, unfortunately. you have to get it from medibuntu.. there's directions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu#Playing%20Encrypted%20DVDs
[06:26] <orange-wedge> and the dmesg | tail
[06:26] <mib_wk3e0674> Awesome :) you rock
[06:26] <losher> ripdisk: not normal. My first guess is a dirty CD...
[06:26] <Evil_saltine> mib_wk3e0674: thanks =)
[06:27] <yaris123456789> is there a version of wget that lets you blacklist certain words in url, and possibly regex match for certain url patterns ? if not, where can i get the source code for wget and modify it? is it written in C ?
[06:27] <RichiV> orange-wedge:sorry afk
[06:27] <ripdisk> you're a towel
[06:27] <orange-wedge> np
[06:28] <RichiV> orange-wedge: http://paste.ubuntu.com/172776/
[06:28] <Evil_saltine> yaris123456789: I don't know about that, but the source is here: http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/wget/
[06:28] <Flannel> yaris123456789: wget will let you do that by default, yes.
[06:28] <PaulieG> can some one please help me with my sound in Xubuntu Jaynty 9.04? it always swkips. all video and audio? does anyone know of a fix
[06:28] <orange-wedge> danget
[06:28] <KingKimi> a=`history`
[06:28] <KingKimi> echo $a | more | ???????
[06:28] <KingKimi> what to type in ????? to save that to  a file ?
[06:29] <Flannel> KingKimi: echo $a > file
[06:29] <orange-wedge> what kind of laptop do you have?
[06:29] <Flannel> KingKimi: or echo $a | tee file
[06:29] <yaris123456789> Flannel: are you sure? do you mean theres a regex match function in wget?
[06:29] <pyrak> i stupidly ran rm * in a dir with some important files.  i had also been editing these files in gedit, but i since closed them.  any hope for recovery?
[06:29] <[esde]> Linux esde-laptop 2.6.28-11-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 17 01:57:59 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:29] <[esde]> how can i update my kernel?
[06:29] <Piet> yaris123456789: it's written in c. to find its website, use an internet search engine, that's how they usually do it nowadays.
[06:29] <yaris123456789> Evil_saltine: which is the source code ? .sig ?
[06:30] <RichiV> orange-wedge: well imma go play starcraft now.... try it tommorrow thnx
[06:30] <KingKimi> Flannel, thnx
[06:30] <orange-wedge> np
[06:30] <Piet> !kernel > [esde]
[06:30] <Enissay> i've just installed compiz, after activating it, the title bar of all windows disappears!!!
[06:30] <painted> hey ubuntu isn't remembering my wallpaper setup, what is up with that
[06:30] <Evil_saltine> yaris: the files ending in tar.gz
[06:31] <KingKimi> Flannel, but that file looks a big passage..
[06:31] <Flannel> yaris123456789: yes, check the man page, further down where it talks about accept/reject
[06:31] <yaris123456789> RichiV: starcraft runs good on wine ??
[06:31] <Flannel> KingKimi: Hmm?
[06:31] <losher> yaris123456789: at the risk of sounding brutal, if you're having difficulty finding wget and reading the man page, you're gonna have plenty more difficulty modifying the C source
[06:31] <orange-wedge> painted  ... did you use glue?
[06:31] <orange-wedge> :)
[06:31] <KingKimi> Flannel,  i want that to be each entry in one line  like in  "history | more"
[06:31] <lscott3> any suggestions on web development tools?
[06:31] <orange-wedge> nvu
[06:31] <painted> orange-wedge, no i'll try that next.... :D
[06:32] <Flannel> KingKimi: `history > file` looks good to me
[06:32] <yaris123456789> Flannel: oh i know about -R and -A. however those are only for directory. i know it takes wildcards. however i am looking for ways to match dynamic pages like http://www.asdf.com/page.php?id=234234 .
[06:32] <KingKimi> Flannel, using echo $a > file .. then cat file looks like that
[06:32] <KingKimi> Flannel, oh ! thnx..  this worked :D
[06:32] <orange-wedge> Flannel why don't you just use a shell $variable
[06:33] <KingKimi> is it possible to open this ubuntu channel via terminal ?
[06:33] <Flannel> yaris123456789: They're not just for directories.  And I have no idea what you mean by that example.
[06:33] <DaZ> KingKimi: irssi ?
[06:35] <orange-wedge> yaris are you wanting to match the number at the end?
[06:35] <alvorportugal> Hi all, jemand einen Tipp für UMTS Anbieter, für ca.1GB pro Monat?
[06:35] <Flannel> !de | alvorportugal
[06:35] <ripdisk> eugh why is this install giving me such a pain in the buttt
[06:36] <ripdisk> oh wait something's happening
[06:36] <ripdisk> oh snap
[06:36] <ripdisk> there's my mouse cursor
[06:36] <PaulieG> can some one please help me with my sound in Xubuntu Jaynty 9.04? it always swkips. all video and audio? does anyone know of a fix
[06:36] <O__o> hi guys, i have JVC cam recorder and i think the movies are saved in mts file format, how do i play it or convert it?
[06:36] <[esde]> !de | english
[06:36] <[esde]> cool
[06:37] <orange-wedge> ha ha
[06:37] <orange-wedge> didn't translate
[06:37] <[esde]> thatd be epic
[06:37] <orange-wedge> that would be awesome
[06:37] <[esde]> but like im out dudes, thanks for the help
[06:37] <orange-wedge> !de | dog
[06:37] <orange-wedge> woof woof!
[06:38] <KingKimi> orange-wedge, :D
[06:38] <Evil_saltine> !en
[06:39] <Piet> lscott3: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=kompozer
[06:39] <mandingo> how do i stop kjournald starting commit internal 5 seconds
[06:39] <lscott3> Piet: thanks I will give it a try!
[06:40] <Evil_saltine> mandingo: kjournald is part of the kernel, it can't be shut off
[06:40] <Xyzyxx> noob here. What is initramfs and why am I dumped there instead of the 'Welcome' screen when I choose "Install Ubuntu"
[06:40] <Piet> lscott3: 0.7 is said to be somewhat unstable, and 0.8 is said to be already more stable than 0.7, even though it's still an alpha. so see foryourself, might be worth trying the 0.8
[06:41] <Gamarok__> hey everybody
[06:41] <losher> mandingo: googled 'kjournald constantly accessing disk [Archive] - Ubuntu Forums'
[06:41] <losher> mandingo: googled 'kjournald constantly accessing disk [Archive] - Ubuntu Forums' yet?
[06:41] <lscott3> Piet: Looks pretty decent from the screen shots
[06:41] <Evil_saltine> mandingo: it's part of the filesystem so it's normal for it to be busy if there's disk activity
[06:41] <Evil_saltine> mandingo: in a manner of speaking
[06:41] <mandingo> but its doing it to all my drives
[06:42] <mandingo> ext3-fs mounted filesystem with orderd data mode
[06:42] <krishna__> HI
[06:42] <Evil_saltine> mandingo: the link losher posted should help
[06:42] <orange-wedge> whats the highest uptime loads people have seen?
[06:42] <krishna__> how do i open irc channels in firefox ?
[06:42] <mandingo> k
[06:42] <orange-wedge> load average: 0.58, 0.53, 0.51...
[06:42] <dyess002> guys, I found a powerISO for LINUX but i can't figure it out could somebody help, hers the link  http://www.poweriso.com/download.htm
[06:43] <losher> Evil_saltine: thank you. Sometimes I think I'm just talking to myself...
[06:43] <krishna__> i googled and got chatzilla.. tnx anyway :P
[06:43] <Piet> krishna__: you don't. unless you install an add-on that handles them.
[06:43] <Evil_saltine> losher: no problem, i think it's just because mine came after yours
[06:43] <krishna__> Piet: yes. i got chatzilla .. thnx
[06:43] <krishna__> bye
[06:43] <Piet> krishna__: ok, just do it the other way around next time ;-)
[06:43] <orange-wedge> dyess002 why don't you use:  sudo mount -t iso9660 file.iso /media/cdrom0/ -o loop
[06:44] <orange-wedge> you don't even have to install anything
[06:45] <ajhtiredwolf> what is the name of the usb 2.0 module in 9.04 ?
[06:45] <KingKimi> dyess002, or gmountiso in synaptic
[06:45] <cruicial_Thread> hello, i want my gnome icons to be aligned to the right instead of the left on the desktop. any ideas how i set that up?
[06:45] <dyess002> because I am a beginner and don't know anything about commands yet,untill i learn I am trying to do it the simple way, but i hope to learn
[06:45] <orange-wedge> i thought usb was handled through hal
[06:46] <ajhtiredwolf> orange-wedge, i thought it was ehci-hcd but its not
[06:46] <KingKimi> dyess002, then >  gmountiso
[06:46] <yaris123456789> nominate my project! http://sourceforge.net/community/cca09/nominate/?hash=1e6b9627dc26618db8c88ddd31635121
[06:46] <orange-wedge> hm...
[06:46] <BorkedAlsa> does anybody have a solution to the problem of flash crashing alsa?
[06:46] <dyess002> trying gmountiso right now
[06:46]  * Evil_saltine scratches head
[06:46] <BorkedAlsa> besides alsa force-reload I mean
[06:48] <Clown_Knife> hey whats the best way to upgrade a feisty server to latest version
[06:48] <Flannel> Clown_Knife: feisty?  How hard is it to reinstall?
[06:49] <Flannel> Clown_Knife: to get from feisty to hardy, you have to go feisty (EOL) -> Gutsy (EOL) -> Hardy
[06:49] <dyess002> i think gmount is going to be what i am looking for,  Thanks
[06:50] <Clown_Knife> Flannel, yeah not that hard just the backing up and all the configs etc but I think your right it would be easier to reinstall system is not remote its right next to me
[06:51] <orange-wedge> ok all
[06:51] <yaris123456789> Flannel: are you sure ? i've asked the guy who created wget, and he said its only for file extensions like http://www.asdf.com/something.jpg. -X is used for directories sry i got confused. even still how can i blacklist something like http
[06:51] <orange-wedge> need to call it a night
[06:51] <yaris123456789> ://www.asdf.com/blacklisted.php
[06:51] <Flannel> yaris123456789: I have no idea what you're asking for.  What do you want to omit?
[06:51] <punknroll> hi, how can i find out why some network drives don't mount automatically?
[06:52] <cruicial_Thread> hello, i want my gnome icons to be aligned to the right instead of the left on the desktop. any ideas how i set that up?
[06:52] <punknroll> i can manually mount them later on using sudo mount /media/mydrive
[06:52] <Evil_saltine> yaris: You need a regex that matches the pages you don't want
[06:52] <ripdisk> ok wtf
[06:52] <ripdisk> the installer encountered an error copying files to the hard disk: erno 5 input/output error
[06:53]  * Clown_Knife downloads Ubuntu v9.04 Server i386 ISO 
[06:53] <ripdisk> this is making me mad
[06:53] <Evil_saltine> ripdisk: Is this the same disk that was giving the SQUASHFS errors earlier?
[06:53] <ripdisk> no, i burned another
[06:53] <Clown_Knife> how to register nick please
[06:54] <Xyzyxx> I chose 'Install Ubuntu', it brings up a prompt with no indication of how to proceed
[06:54] <ajhtiredwolf> anyone know the USB 2.0 module name in 9.04
[06:54] <starmonk> Did you test the disk for errors?
[06:54] <Piet> Clown_Knife: /msg nickserv help register
[06:54] <ripdisk> no
[06:54] <rob__> Does anyone know how to get the macmenu, I can't find it
[06:54] <ripdisk> i guess i could do that
[06:54] <Piet> Clown_Knife: for more help with irc, ask in #freenode
[06:55] <Clown_Knife> Piet, k cheers
[06:55] <error404notfound>  I am going to buy a scanner. Choices are: HP-2410, HP-2710 , HP- 3110 , and  HP-3010. Which one should i buy so that it works the best with janty jackalope?
[06:55] <losher> cruicial_Thread: apparently a (still) unfixed bug: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-623038.html
[06:55] <ryanprior> Anybody know how to capture a playing audio stream to a file in Ubuntu?
[06:55] <ryanprior> There's a neat Flash sound composer app that I've got playing, but it doesn't have a save track function.
[06:55] <O__o> anyone here knows how to play mts files?
[06:56] <Piet> error404notfound: whichever is fully supported on linux 2.6.28 will be fine.
[06:56] <error404notfound> Piet, and which one would that be? :P i mean where can i find their compatibility with linux?
[06:56] <losher> ripdisk: bad dvd reader?
[06:56] <Piet> O__o: i don't. but i'm curious what that is?
[06:56] <Piet> error404notfound: the vendor should be able to tell you.
[06:56] <O__o> movie files from jvc camrecorder
[06:57] <error404notfound> i am at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScannersHp
[06:57] <starmonk> Xyzyxx
[06:57] <Xyzyxx> yeah
[06:57] <starmonk> Did you check the disk for errors?
[06:57] <O__o> Piet, some kinda AVCHD ??
[06:57] <Sagaci> apparently it's a AVCHD Video File
[06:57] <Xyzyxx> didn't think to
[06:57] <cruicial_Thread> losher, hey thanks.. thats pretty much the same i get when i was researching it.. i was hoping i could jump in to gconf-editor and add, change key values
[06:57] <starmonk> Try that
[06:57] <O__o> so how to play it?
[06:57] <Xyzyxx> I've been using this disk
[06:57] <Sagaci> it's based on mpeg-2
[06:58] <O__o> or can it be burn into dvd and plays in dvdplayer?
[06:58] <Piet> O__o: next question: what is AVCHD?
[06:58] <O__o> i try vlc, mplayer i cant play those file
[06:58] <O__o> Piet, some kinda HD movie file format??
[06:58] <O__o> no idea?
[06:58] <omac> avchd is just mp4 with more resolution
[06:58] <O__o> omac, how to play it?
[06:59] <O__o> no players work
[06:59] <omac> use totem or mplayer
[06:59] <DaZ> mplayer? ;x
[06:59] <O__o> omac, dont work
[06:59] <Piet> O__o: in this case, any of the players you menationed should eb able to play it back
[06:59] <omac> yes they do
[06:59] <DaZ> maybe you need more codecs ;
[06:59] <O__o> got sound no playback
[06:59] <ryanprior> Anybody know how to capture a playing audio stream to a file in Ubuntu? There's a neat Flash sound composer app that I've got playing, but it doesn't have a save track function.
[07:00] <losher> been a while since I found anything mplayer couldn't handle...
[07:00] <error404notfound> Piet, what if i can't contact? any online resource?
[07:00] <Xyzyxx> starmonk, return of the prompt when I chose 'check disk for defects'
[07:00] <DarkRavin> has anybody heard of a bot called DARKBOT
[07:01] <Xyzyxx> it says (initramfs)_
[07:01] <Piet> error404notfound: well you already found one on the ubuntu wiki ;-)
[07:01] <O__o> ERROR! FPS not specified in the header or invalid, use the -fps option??
[07:01] <starmonk> Xyzyxx...that sounds familiar...lemme check something
[07:01] <losher> DarkRavin: anybody besides google, you mean?
[07:01] <error404notfound> Piet, thats for printers :(
[07:01] <DarkRavin> yes i need help installing it
[07:01] <Xyzyxx> maybe it's not detecting my disk at all... checking cables
[07:02] <omac> O__o:  do you have ffmpeg?  do ffmpeg -i thefile.avi
[07:02] <starmonk> I forget what initramfs means
[07:02] <omac> It should tell you what it is?
[07:02] <O__o> ffmpeg?
[07:02] <Piet> error404notfound: there's also linuxcompatible.org and http://www.ubuntuhcl.org/
[07:02] <O__o> the file is 00000.mts
[07:02] <Evil_saltine> Xyzyxx: What does it say above that line?
[07:02] <Xyzyxx> uh
[07:02] <omac> just rename the file to blah.avi
[07:02] <Xyzyxx> BusyBox
[07:03] <Evil_saltine> Xyzyxx: it just dumped you to a shell right?
[07:03] <Xyzyxx> and some lunix stuff
[07:03] <error404notfound> Piet, lemme check.. thanks anyways
[07:03] <Piet> error404notfound: you can also check the SANE project, they probably have a listing, too
[07:03] <omac> or blah.mpg
[07:03] <omac> or blah.mp4
[07:03] <error404notfound> Piet, none of these are there...
[07:03] <O__o> The program 'ffmpeg' is currently not installed.
[07:03] <O__o> do i need to install it?
[07:03] <Xyzyxx> I'll look again
[07:03] <creative1412> Guys am foing buying a Nivida Card Cuz the old Ati made me creazy
[07:03] <Piet> error404notfound: where is "there"?
[07:03] <omac> O__o:  apt-get install ffmpeg
[07:03] <error404notfound> Piet, SANE
[07:03] <creative1412> do you recommend a card?
[07:04] <Xyzyxx> Evil_saltine, yes, after I hit install, I see a loading bar, then the prompt appears
[07:04] <Evil_saltine> Xyzyxx: Is the loading bar moving back and forth, or is it moving left to right like a progress bar?
[07:04] <Xyzyxx> and I can explore some directories which I have no idea how
[07:04] <yaris123456789> hey guys is there an easy to use downloader? sort of like internet download manager on windows? basically select multiple url, right click and instantly download them all ?
[07:05] <creative1412> USE WINE+Bitcomet
[07:05] <O__o> omac, done now what?
[07:05] <Xyzyxx> Evil_saltine, it's red with a yellow dot that bounces
[07:05] <DarkRavin> tks 4 all ur help guys
[07:05] <DarkRavin> LATERS
[07:05] <Xyzyxx> back and forth
[07:05] <omac> O__o: ffpmeg -i blah.mts
[07:05] <O__o> omac, ffmpeg -i 00000.MTS?
[07:05] <creative1412> Guys about the card 9500GT?
[07:05] <O__o> i did that but nothing plays
[07:05] <omac> yes
[07:05] <Evil_saltine> Xyzyxx: It's not able to mount the compressed image on your CD for some reason
[07:06] <ripdisk> itegrity check finished: no errors found
[07:06] <Xyzyxx> ok, prompt is back
[07:06] <omac> then just rename it to something else with an easier extension to detect.
[07:06] <Evil_saltine> Xyzyxx: I guess either the CD is bad or it's not detecting it for some reason
[07:06] <omac> mv blah.mts blah.avi
[07:06] <O__o> nothing plays still
[07:06] <Evil_saltine> Xyzyxx: What is the first line that looks like an error message?
[07:06] <O__o> let me bin the output
[07:06] <Chr|s> how do I open up a link using tilda?
[07:07] <Xyzyxx> BusyBox v1.10.2 (Ubuntu 1:1.10.2-2ubuntu7) built-in shell (ash)
[07:07] <Xyzyxx> Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands
[07:07] <Piet> O__o: run 'file' on it, too
[07:07] <O__o> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/172792/
[07:07] <saravanan> help
[07:07] <O__o> run file?
[07:07] <Piet> O__o: execute this "file 00000.MTS"
[07:07] <rob__> Question: Does anyone know where to get the macmenu applet?
[07:07] <losher> error404notfound: In your place, I would google each printer + Ubuntu & see if any model is explicitly said to work or not work. Most scanners will do a basic scan, but any special features might not work without windows. Failing that, I would only buy from a local store with a generous return policy in case you cannot get it working....
[07:07] <O__o> 00000.avi: data
[07:08] <omac> Stream #0.0[0x1011]: Video: h264, yuv420p, 1440x1080, 29.97 fps(r)
[07:08] <Xyzyxx> should I redownload and re-burn the installer
[07:08] <omac> O__o: go install x264 or h264 on your machine
[07:08] <O__o> omac, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/172792/
[07:08] <omac> apt-get install h264
[07:08] <omac> apt-get install x264
[07:08] <O__o> how to install h264?
[07:08] <O__o> oh wait
[07:09] <Computer28736467> I accidentally deleted my trash bin. how do i get it back?
[07:09] <O__o> can i sudo apt-get install h264 x264 ??
[07:09] <Flannel> O__o: yes.
[07:09] <O__o> E: Couldn't find package h264
[07:09] <Chr|s> buy a new one :D
[07:09] <Chr|s> oops
[07:09] <omac> x264 :)
[07:09] <Chr|s> wrong chan
[07:09] <ripdisk> does anyone know if i/o errors are common when installing ubuntu on a dell demension
[07:10] <omac> I just don't remember the package names
[07:10] <ripdisk> because the disk check said it was fine
[07:10] <ripdisk> and i know xp installs on here
[07:10] <omac> then play totem or mplayer.
[07:10] <O__o> omac, done
[07:10] <O__o> omac, now what?
[07:10] <O__o> omac, do i run mplayer?
[07:10] <omac> O__o: try mplayer again
[07:10] <Piet> !trashbin
[07:10] <darthanubis> O__o, use apt-cache search
[07:11] <losher> ripdisk: google the exact model + install problems. 9.04 I presume?
[07:11] <O__o> omac, still cant play
[07:11] <Xyzyxx> Evil_saltine, all it says is BusyBox v1.10.2 (Ubuntu 1:1.10.2-2ubuntu7) built-in shell (ash)
[07:11] <Chr|s> widget, add to panel > trashbin
[07:11] <snell> when i try to boot into ubuntu now, it hangs on starting timidity
[07:11] <snell> i cant get it to boot, can someone help me?
[07:11] <Evil_saltine> Xyzyxx: You could try to find the error message, but at this point I would try a new CD
[07:11] <TheNano> O__o: there is a lot of players out there , VLC plays every thing
[07:11] <Xyzyxx> okay
[07:11] <O__o> VLC cant play
[07:12] <Piet> Xyzyxx: burn half speed next time
[07:12] <Xyzyxx> righto
[07:12] <TheNano> O__o: The new SMPLAYER then
[07:12] <ZAKhan> I have ubuntu 9.04 install on a AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+ motherboard with nVidia GeForce 8400 GS, i have been facing random hangups since 7.10 on the same PC, mainly i notice when deluge and firefox is running toghter it hangs, also have noticed when there is more harddisk activity it hangs. I have also noticed when running firefox the flash plugin takes more then 50% cpu.  can someone please help me find the culprit ?
[07:12] <omac> O__o:  start the synaptic package manager.  Then click the search button.  In the dialog box, type h264 and click search.  install anything that looks like the gstreamer codecs and the 264 codecs.
[07:12] <maxagaz> how to cut a video file from 5:30 to 8:30 (3 minutes) for example ?
[07:13] <DaZ> TheNano: smplayer is gui for mplayer
[07:13] <juxta> I'm trying to setup an encrypted root partition using dm_crypt. I've booted into a live cd, done the encryption, defined the partition in /etc/cryptab, updated the initrd & modified the grub menu.lst - my system won't boot though. it just hangs... after grub runs - any ideas?
[07:13] <omac> You'll find it.  You'll install it.  mplayer, vlc, totem will all work when the codec is installed.
[07:13] <Xyzyxx> Piet, I actually used DVD-Decrypter to burn the CD if that makes a difference
[07:13] <omac> O__o:  your problem is that you don't have the h264 codec installed yet.
[07:13] <Piet> ZAKhan: the flash player is likely a totally seperate issue from the rest
[07:14] <Piet> Xyzyxx: no idea, i don't know this application
[07:14] <O__o> omac, but i can play h264 avi movies i downloaded
[07:14] <TheNano> DaZ: not exactly, it has improvements in the code
[07:14] <O__o> omac, how to check if i have it installed or not?
[07:14] <Piet> ZAKhan: install memtest86+ and have it run through the night
[07:14] <losher> ZAKhan: so many releases, I suspect a hardware problem. Start by running memtest overnight....
[07:14] <DaZ> TheNano: what improvements? :o
[07:14] <ZAKhan> Piet, I have been trying to pin point the issue but everytime i have some new scenario and it hangs
[07:15] <Piet> ZAKhan: i assume you already inspected the systems' log files, right?
[07:15] <Piet> ZAKhan: such as /var/log/messages and /var/log/syslog
[07:15] <O__o> what is ffmpeg?
[07:15] <ZAKhan> Piet, losher , i read in one of the forums that the ram with only one sided chips runs fine with AMD but i just could not buy that .. who knows might be true.
[07:16] <ZAKhan> Piet, yes i have and could not find anything unusual
[07:16] <ripdisk> WTF
[07:16] <losher> ZAKhan: back to memtest then....
[07:16] <Piet> ZAKhan: it will remain a rumour until you actually ran memtest ;-)
[07:16] <ripdisk> these I/O errors are BS
[07:16] <TheNano> DaZ: a lot , see for yourself https://launchpad.net/~rvm/+archive/ppa
[07:16] <ripdisk> there's no reason for them
[07:16] <DaZ> thanks
[07:17] <Piet> ZAKhan: also consider upgrading your bios, this can help sometimes if the vendor really f...ed up
[07:17] <ZAKhan> losher, Piet, ok i do so now and leave it for 6 hours and see happens, but the issue is it hangs when i execute 2 or more applications .. then memtest will hang too right?
[07:17] <ZAKhan> Piet, yeah i did not consider upgrading bios till now
[07:18] <Piet> ZAKhan: it may, or may not. if it hangs, you'll knowsomething is wrong with the hardware
[07:18] <TheNano> O__o: last advice, try Dragonplayer if all other apps fail.
[07:18] <losher> ZAKhan: memtest will test your memory pretty thoroughly. A clean memtest is a good first step
[07:19] <TheNano> ZAKhan: have you done a hardware test , like memtest and ...
[07:19] <O__o> should i just find a windows machine and try the cd that comes with jvc?
[07:19] <ripdisk> Ok, so, i'm getting I/O errors when trying to install ubuntu on a dell demension, tested the cd it says it's fine, did hdd diagnostics it says my hdd is fine
[07:19] <ZAKhan> TheNano, i will do this now and come back 6 hours
[07:20] <omac> O__O:  libx264
[07:20] <mrmaveric> i came in late, what is 0__o trying to play?
[07:20] <losher> ripdisk: run md5sum on the cd?
[07:20] <O__o> mrmaveric, MTS file
[07:20] <Piet> ripdisk: can you provide the exact error message, please?
[07:20] <omac> O__o:  x264 is an advanced commandline encoder for creating H.264 (MPEG-4 AVC)
[07:20] <omac> video streams.
[07:20] <Piet> ripdisk: if it spans multiple lines, please use a pastebin
[07:21] <cyberjorge> hello everyone!
[07:21] <omac> O__o:  If you just install the libx264, mplayer will find it.
[07:21] <O__o> what do i need to do? omac
[07:21] <Evil_saltine> O__o: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=789775 .. it's a couple years old though
[07:21] <cyberjorge> how do i install a bin file in ubuntu?
[07:21] <O__o> omac, wait
[07:21] <omac> otherwise, I don't know.
[07:21] <O__o> E: Couldn't find package libx264
[07:21] <mrmaveric> 0__o dont know if this has been suggested but VLC works for me with most HD videos
[07:21] <losher> ripdisk: exact model of the dell? Version of the OS you're installing?
[07:21] <JEEB> VLC's x264 is quite old
[07:21] <omac> O__o: libx264 is an advanced encoding library for creating H.264 (MPEG-4 AVC)
[07:22] <omac> video streams.
[07:22] <O__o> E: Couldn't find package libx264
[07:22] <JEEB> and lately there have been many new optimizations etc.
[07:22] <O__o>  sudo apt-get install libx264
[07:22] <O__o> E: Couldn't find package libx264
[07:22] <ZAKhan> thanks guys
[07:22] <ripdisk> losher: dell demension e310, newest ubuntu available on the site
[07:22] <Evil_saltine> O__o: libx264-59
[07:22] <Piet> cyberjorge: prefix it by "bash". but before you do this, make sure you really want to do this. the usual wy to install software on ubuntu is by means of a package manager.
[07:22] <Evil_saltine> O__o: libx264-65, sorry
[07:23] <cyberjorge> i see
[07:23] <omac> O__o:  you need to be using the gui for installing packages.
[07:23] <Piet> cyberjorge: executing binary files from random sources is often not healthy for your system
[07:23] <JEEB> Evil_saltine, thank Hanyuu you said 65 - I almost thought Ubuntu was :way: too late on updates
[07:23] <xerox1> is anybody here that uses dark gtk themes and can tell me how to solve issuses with unreadable text on websites and forms?
[07:23] <MeXTuX> I have an old PC (Pentium III with 96 MB RAM and 10 GB HD) and want to install a command line system in order to set up a proxy server. What Ubuntu version do I have to install? The server or the alternate command line system???
[07:23] <losher> ripdisk: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-125417.html ?
[07:23] <Evil_saltine> JEEB: lol
[07:24] <mg_> yeah!
[07:25] <mg_> hello
[07:25] <mobi-sheep> MeXTuX: You might want to try #ubuntu-server
[07:25] <jonathon_> how do i install that vmware sudo apt-get ???
[07:25] <Piet> MeXTuX: normally you'd go with server. but i'm in doubt whether this hardware meets the requirements
[07:25] <omac> O__o:  go to Startup->System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager.   Click the Search button.  Don't enter text in the main synaptic gui.  It sucks.  Enter the "x264" in the popup dialog search dialog and click ok.
[07:25] <MeXTuX> ok
[07:25] <MeXTuX> Tnx
[07:25] <O__o> omac, what package
[07:25] <MeXTuX> :)
[07:25] <omac> You will find there are going to be many hits.
[07:25] <mg_> please direct me to any server that will support me
[07:25] <mg_> on linux\
[07:26] <abgis> i upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04 and change my graphic card to ati 4770. I noticed that when I play video (avi, mp4, mkv) it is very slow. should i switched back to 8.10 or wait for new video driver?
[07:26] <losher> MeXTuX: might be better off with one of the tiny linuxes e.g. damn small linux, puppy, etc...
[07:26]  * JEEB wonders if he should study .deb packaging
[07:26] <mg_> , t/y
[07:26] <omac> install x264 and the libx264 will automatically install itself.  If not you can force it to install by clicking the checkbox.
[07:26] <ripdisk> losher: my errors are different
[07:26] <Evil_saltine> mg_: I'm not sure what you mean
[07:26] <losher> ripdisk: run md5sum on the cd?
[07:27] <mg_> just looking for linux support
[07:27] <O__o> omac, i have libx264-57 installed
[07:27] <Piet> MeXTuX: or even better, upgrade its RAM since it's really affordable nowadays
[07:27] <ripdisk> i got it from the site though
[07:27] <JEEB> O_o: now that's something :old:
[07:27] <ripdisk> and i've laready tried redownloading it and burning a new one
[07:27] <omac> that's a good start.  now try mplayer blah.mts again.
[07:27] <mg_> i have sound issues
[07:27] <losher> ripdisk: just stop bellyaching and run md5sum
[07:28] <mg_> i am quite lost in irc
[07:28] <ripdisk> fine you caught me i don't know how
[07:28] <mobi-sheep> ripdisk: md5sum Ubuntu-Jaunty-9.04.iso
[07:28] <mobi-sheep> !md5sum | ripdisk
[07:29] <Evil_saltine> baaa
[07:29] <Piet> mg_: welcome. if you have a specific question, just ask
[07:29] <mg_> ok then......
[07:29] <mg_> i have no sound
[07:29] <Piet> mg_: if someone is free and able to help you they will respond like i'm doing it now.
[07:29] <losher> ripdisk: :-). Actually, I wanted to verify the burn, but I realise if you can't run the livecd, it can't be done.
[07:29] <ripdisk> oh
[07:29] <mg_> , and i appreciate it
[07:29] <ripdisk> well
[07:30] <ripdisk> the pc i'm on now is running ubuntu
[07:30] <ripdisk> does that help
[07:30] <mobi-sheep> Piet: I think the option is there at the bootup of LiveCD.
[07:31] <mg_> i tried comprehensive sound on ubuntu forums bur no success
[07:31] <Evil_saltine> mg_: did you recently install ubuntu?
[07:31] <losher> ripdisk: that would verify the disk, which is good, but I really wanted to verify the entire hardware chain i.e. disk, controller, dvd reader etc. which you can't do, right?
[07:31] <Piet> mg_: "i have no sound" is a very short error description. ;-) try to sum up more, tell us which ubuntu version you have and how you have it configured if you can find it out. also what you already tried to fix it.
[07:31] <Piet> mobi-sheep: which option?
[07:31] <mobi-sheep> Piet: "Check CD for defects"
[07:31] <ripdisk> nope
[07:31] <ripdisk> :(
[07:31] <cyberjorge> Piet: i don't why openbravo chose to distribute it using a bin a file, anyway hope that won't get me in trouble
[07:31] <mg_> well i think i am rumnning Kubuntu no nbow
[07:32] <cyberjorge> Piet: i was able to run the bin file using ./file.bin
[07:32] <mg_> actually i9 know i am
[07:32] <Piet> mobi-sheep: so, so. but i don't think you wanted to tell _me about this, since we haven't talked recently.
[07:32] <losher> ripdisk: at this point, I'd download something else e.g. DSL and see if that boots. If it does, you'll know there's something weird about Ubuntu. If not, you definitely have a harware problem...
[07:32] <Computer28736467> i used ext4 for 9.04. do you guys think that was a bad idea?
[07:32] <O__o> how to install vlc 0.9 in ubuntu 8.04?
[07:32] <ripdisk> i've tried xp
[07:32] <ripdisk> it installs fine
[07:32] <mg_> kubuntu is what i run
[07:32] <O__o> i have 0.8.6e
[07:33] <mobi-sheep> Piet: Oh that wasn't for you.  That was for losher.  >_>
[07:33] <gotsanity> so, question of the day... anyone know of an irc client that runs in ubuntu that has mirc-like window position saving?
[07:33] <Computer28736467> 0___o add/remove programs
[07:33] <relive> how to allow user to open "system>administration> user and group"?
[07:33] <losher> Computer28736467: ext4 is a terrible idea. Switch to ext3, or make sure you have a backup of anything precious
[07:33] <iceroot> gotsanity: xchat?
[07:33] <Evil_saltine> mg_: open terminal and type lspci | grep Audio
[07:34] <O__o> Computer28736467, add/remove only give me 0.8.6
[07:34] <jasonmchristos> where does firefox save stored passwords ubuntu 9.04 jaunty
[07:34] <Evil_saltine> mg_: what is the output? it should be one line
[07:34] <losher> mobi-sheep: you mean for ripdisk...
[07:34] <mrmaveric> apt-get install vlc
[07:34] <JEEB> gotsanity, I guess kvIRC is the closest GUI-wise, but I still don't like it :/
[07:34] <Computer28736467> 0___o download from their website
[07:34] <gotsanity> iceroot: ive tried finding a way to save xchats window position between "sessions" but i cant figure it out
[07:34] <mg_> i did the comprehensive diagnostics on ubuntu forum with out sucess
[07:34] <mobi-sheep> losher: Pretty much.  You're the one assisting him with md5sum.
[07:34] <iceroot> gotsanity: i dont knw what you mean with windows position, i am not using a gui-client
[07:35] <mg_> thank you EVIL....give me a sec'
[07:35] <JEEB> Might anyone have a recommendation on a tutorial on how to build packages for Ubuntu? (I think I'll try making x264 since the last rev in ubuntu is from December 2008)
[07:35] <iceroot> gotsanity: but (and alot people will hate me here) mirc runs fine with wine
[07:35] <jasonmchristos> anyone?
[07:35] <losher> ripdisk: actually, systemrescue might be ideal: http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page
[07:35] <jasonmchristos> where does firefox save stored passwords ubuntu 9.04 jaunty
[07:35] <Piet> cyberjorge: http://wiki.openbravo.com/wiki/Openbravo_ERP_installation#Bitrock_installer
[07:35] <Piet> cyberjorge: as explained there, yes
[07:35] <iceroot> jasonmchristos: in the profile (crypted)
[07:35] <omac> O__o: mplayer still doesn't work?
[07:35] <O__o> no
[07:35] <gotsanity> in mirc you are able to "tile" irc channels so you can see multiple at a time and it also allows you to save their positions/colors/etc between sessions
[07:35] <losher> mobi-sheep: not very successful support...
[07:36] <Piet> cyberjorge: something tells me you'll run into more difficult to solve issues with this installation yet.
[07:36] <jasonmchristos> iceroot: I do not have a master password so it should not be crypted
[07:36] <gotsanity> you can tile the windows within xchat the same way but it ends up losing the positioning between openings
[07:36] <jasonmchristos> iceroot: where is the profile located so I can backitup before reinstalling ubuntu
[07:36] <iceroot> jasonmchristos: ~/.mozilla/firefox/
[07:36] <ripdisk> losher
[07:36] <ripdisk> and what would i need to do with that
[07:37] <jasonmchristos> iceroot: looking
[07:37] <losher> ripdisk: sorry?
[07:37] <iceroot> gotsanity: ah ok, sorry dont know a gui-client which can do that
[07:37] <ripdisk> the system rescue thing
[07:37] <ripdisk> just what, whipe everything?
[07:37] <ripdisk> -h
[07:38] <mg_> multimedia audio controller: nvidia Corporation nForce3 250GB AC"97 AUDIO CONTROLLER
[07:38] <gotsanity> iceroot: i suppose looking in #xchat might help :)
[07:38] <charlie_babitt> I have a dual screen setup. How can I make my second monitor (it's the big one, the first is the one of the laptop) the primary monitor of gnome. I'm especially having problems with almost all panels since they are on the laptop monitor, instead of my large one. This problem is also with AWN. I want it to apear on the second monitor. Does anyone know what I could do?
[07:38] <Computer28736467> 0___o http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-ubuntu.html
[07:38] <jasonmchristos> iceroot: I see it which file has the passwords?
[07:38] <mg_> sorry i cant paste
[07:38] <cyberjorge> Piet: actually i'm using the POS... http://wiki.openbravo.com/wiki/OpenbravoPOS_Installation#Download_and_install_Openbravo_POS
[07:38] <omac> O__o:  Can you tell me what mplayer says when you try to use it?
[07:39] <losher> ripdisk: you can do all sorts with system rescue, including partitioning, fscking disks etc. But I basically want to verify if your hardware can boot *any* kind of linux successfully. since you've obviously drawn a complete blank with Ubuntu twice over now...
[07:39] <mg_> mplayer?
[07:39] <mg_> might be able
[07:39] <Boohbah> !mplayer
[07:39] <omac> your mts file was recognized by ffmpeg as 10seconds of h264 format.
[07:39] <Computer28736467> !vlc
[07:39] <mg_> i love you guys
[07:40] <mg_> ok
[07:40] <Evil_saltine> mg_: okay.. sorry i kind of went off on a tangent
[07:40] <mobi-sheep> charlie_babitt: Set it up in Preferences --> Display (or) Admin --> NVIDIA X Server Settings.  When you're done with that, you'll have to drag the panels to other monitor or create a new panels.
[07:40] <jasonmchristos> anyone know which file contains firefox stored passwords?
[07:40] <omac> ffmpeg2theora -p pro blah.mts
[07:40] <mg_> what should i type in terminal?
[07:41] <Evil_saltine> mg_: try aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
[07:41] <omac> O__o:  ffmpeg2theora -p pro blah.mts
[07:41] <omac> I'm curious to see what happens.
[07:41] <O__o> omac, FPS not specified in the header or invalid, use the -fps option
[07:41] <Computer28736467> go to #ubuntu-offtopic for off topic questions
[07:42] <Piet> cyberjorge: i see
[07:42] <jasonmchristos> anyone know which profile file contains firefox stored passwords?
[07:42] <omac> ok do the same thing with -fps 29.97
[07:42] <mg_> oh boy give me a minute to type this
[07:42] <O__o> omac, whats exact command?
[07:43] <Computer28736467> join #firefox
[07:43] <omac> O__o: mplayer -fps 29.97 blah.mts
[07:43] <mechdave> jasonmchristos, You could try #firefox if no one here knows :)
[07:43] <Evil_saltine> mg_: okay.. you should be able to copy and paste it into the terminal
[07:43] <mobi-sheep> jasonmchristos: "If you use Password Manager or Form Manager to save passwords and personal data, then this sensitive information is stored on your computer in a file that's difficult, but not impossible, for an intruder to read." --> http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/pki/psm/help_21/using_priv_help.html#using_encrypt
[07:43] <omac>  ffmpeg2theora -fps 29.97 -p pro blah.mts
[07:43] <kaveh> im trying to get my guitar hero microphone working with ventrilo, so far ventrilo is working fine in terms of hearing but i can't talk because the usb microphone isn't listed as a device, however it is listed as a USB microphone when i do lsusb
[07:43] <kaveh> any help?
[07:43] <jasonmchristos> mechdave: thanks bud
[07:43] <jasonmchristos> mechdave: going #firefox
[07:43] <losher> ripdisk: decided what to do next?
[07:44] <mobi-sheep> jasonmchristos: Do you see what I said above?
[07:44] <O__o> omac, doesnt work
[07:44] <jasonmchristos> mobi-sheep: yes I know this but I store them in firefox for convinience
[07:44] <mobi-sheep> jasonmchristos: What are you trying to accomplish?
[07:44] <jasonmchristos> mobi-sheep: I do use keepasssx
[07:45] <jasonmchristos> mobi-sheep: I want to reinstall ubuntu but don't want to enter all of my passwords back into firefox
[07:45] <ripdisk> losher: i gotta get some sleep actually i'll try that stuff tomorrow
[07:45] <ripdisk> thanks though
[07:45] <Chr|s> how do I open up a link using tilda?
[07:45] <losher> ripdisk: ok, best of luck...
[07:45] <jasonmchristos> mobi-sheep: I want to pluck the file and overwrite it on the new install
[07:45] <Chr|s> tilda is a terminal app
[07:45] <ziroday> Chr|s: right click, open?
[07:45] <William7> I just had a Standby, failure  because my xorg.conf didn't have appropriate NvAGP setting in it..       I was forced to shut my system down...    Because I'm using ext3  (journaled file system)  does that mean I did not corrupt my system ?...   and/or is there a way to run a check to make sure it's ok?
[07:45] <mg_> aplay / usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav Playing WAVE'/usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wqav' Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 48000Hz, Mono
[07:46] <mobi-sheep> jasonmchristos: I think you can just back up your ~/.mozilla/firefox
[07:46] <Evil_saltine> mg_: And you hear no sound?
[07:46] <kaveh> anyone know how i would go about making my USB microphone working with wine/ventrilo?
[07:46] <mg_> yes no sound
[07:46] <jasonmchristos> mobi-sheep: im thinking that too but now I want to satisfy curiousity to which file it is
[07:46] <mechdave> jasonmchristos, I have just copied the .mozilla folder from your $HOME to another disk (usually usb stick) and then copy it to your new $HOME directory once the install is complete
[07:46] <losher> jasonmchristos: according to google it's signons3.txt and key3.db. But don't come crying to me if you save those files and then find out that they're not enough. I think you should take mobi-sheep's advice and backup the entire profile
[07:46] <Chr|s> ziroday: I use irssi, but using tilda. In the preferences it says firefox, but whenever I click on a link, it doesn't do anything, I have to manually copy and paste
[07:46] <mobi-sheep> jasonmchristos: However, I have several computers so I use XMark (firefox addon) to sync all my bookmarks and passwords with all computers and their XMark server. :)
[07:47] <O__o> omac, should i return this HD cam recorder and use the normal one?
[07:47] <jasonmchristos> mobi-sheep: cool info about xmark
[07:47] <jasonmchristos> mechdave: don't worry I have the passwords
[07:47] <Evil_saltine> mg_: go into mixer (should be under menu/multimedia or something similar) and make sure Master, PCM, and any other output channels are turned up and unmuted
[07:48] <mg_> thank you
[07:48] <mg_> OK
[07:48] <William7> Is Ext3 power failure safe?
[07:48] <mobi-sheep> jasonmchristos: Just make backup of ~/.mozilla and when you are on your new Ubuntnu, just rename ~/.mozilla to ~/.mozilla_old and place it there.  Start the Firefox.  Your extensions and theme should be there too.  Everything same.
[07:48] <mechdave> William7, If you are worried you can start up using a live distro, once the live distro is loaded you can run fsck.ext3 on the un mounted filesystems
[07:49] <William7> mechdave: problem is,  it's under a LUKS  logical volume manager...
[07:49] <jasonmchristos> mechdave: thanks
[07:49] <jasonmchristos> mobi-sheep: thanks
[07:49] <Piet> William7: nothing is power failure safe, but ext3 is less likely to loose data than other file systems.
[07:49] <mechdave> William7, I have never had a problem with ext3 after a power failure
[07:49] <jasonmchristos> interestingly enough they are encrypted now
[07:49] <jasonmchristos> mobi-sheep: those are the files
[07:49] <Evil_saltine> mg_: now try playing something again
[07:49] <losher> William7: pretty much, it's journalled & lots of servers use it...
[07:49] <mechdave> William7, I would just start up again and see what happens
[07:50] <mechdave> jasonmchristos, No worries
[07:50] <jasonmchristos> mobi-sheep: used to be plaintext nice they implimented this
[07:50] <William7> mechdave: yea so far, no problems... just wondering if there is a way to check it from inside the operating system...    (without using a Live CD since I can't..)
[07:50] <mobi-sheep> jasonmchristos: Everything with (dot)(name) such as .mozilla are config files / settings.
[07:50] <schnoodles>  anyone know how to bring up the wireless interface in ubuntu ?
[07:50] <jasonmchristos> thanks a lot guys
[07:50] <mechdave> William7, There is a way to make fsck run on next boot cycle
[07:51] <William7> schnoodles: should be an icon in the start menu bar...
[07:51] <William7> mechdave: ah ok.. yea.. I do recall it runs automatically every now and then... I'll try to force it..
[07:51] <mobi-sheep> jasonmchristos: Consider making a separate partition for home.
[07:51] <mobi-sheep> !home | jasonmchristos
[07:51] <schnoodles> William7 i think ill need it command line, when ever i turn my wireless on and off with my laptop (switch) ubuntu doesnt recognise it going back on :\
[07:51] <jasonmchristos> mobi-sheep: I was going to do that ext2 since data recovery is easier
[07:51] <mechdave> William7, try this --> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-force-fsck-on-the-next-reboot-or-boot-sequence/
[07:52] <William7> mechdave: ok thanks.. will do
[07:52] <ShadowSniper> hey guys, what can you use to see your frame rate for 3d rendering?
[07:53] <jasonmchristos> mobi-sheep: I think this is exactly what I need, excuse me while I read...btw do you think there is any downside to ext2 vs 3
[07:53] <mg_> yeah, this is wher i am confused'
[07:53] <jasonmchristos> for home
[07:53] <mobi-sheep> jasonmchristos: Netbook?  Laptop?  Computer
[07:53] <mg_> , something is nuted, but i am not sure what\\
[07:53] <mg_> , err muted
[07:54] <jasonmchristos> mobi-sheep: this is a laptop but I mean in general practice if I start making ext2 home
[07:54] <losher> jasonmchristos: ext3 is the filesystem of choice....
[07:54] <mg_> love this IRC channel btw
[07:54] <mg_> you guys rock
[07:55] <mechdave> jasonmchristos, ext3 has been about for quite a while now and it has the advantage over ext2 as being journalised so therefore much faster
[07:55] <ShadowSniper> hey guys, what can you use to see your frame rate for 3d rendering?
[07:55] <rAUNCH> good morning, could some1 explain to me please how to i set mouse dpi in ubuntu 8.04? :X
[07:55] <mobi-sheep> jasonmchristos: Well, I think netbook / removable mediums should stick with ext2 for lower read/write.  Laptop / computer / production servers should use ext3.  If you want to mess around, try ext4 (like I am at the moment). :)
[07:56] <jasonmchristos> mobi-sheep: I used it once for ubuntu studio didn't notice a difference studio kept crashing I thought it was because of ext4 but ext3 did the same
[07:56] <Evil_saltine> mg_: thanks =).. could you type amixer in the terminal and post the contents at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ ?
[07:57] <Evil_saltine> mg_: paste it in and click send, then post the URL of the page here
[07:57] <mg_> OK
[07:57] <Evil_saltine> mg_: post the output i mean there
[07:57] <jasonmchristos> mobi-sheep: I was considering using ext2 for .home/ for my clients who are just personal computer users incase they erase something and want it recoverd ext2 is simple to  recover I couldn't do it on ext3 although im sure its possible
[07:57] <mobi-sheep> jasonmchristos: ext3 are the best recommended choices for filesystem.  It's stable.  Well, ext4 are thought to be faster than ext3.
[07:58] <mg_> ok i post at web site
[07:58] <jasonmchristos> excuse me while I read now thanks al;;
[07:59] <jasonmchristos> all
[07:59] <mobi-sheep> jasonmchristos: The benefits of having ext3 is journaled which mean you don't have to do a hard fsck when something ill occurred.
[08:00] <mobi-sheep> jasonmchristos: According to Wikipedia on ext3 --> "Its main advantage over ext2 is journaling which improves reliability and eliminates the need to check the file system after an unclean shutdown."  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext3 -- Have fun. :)
[08:00] <thomasan> Have anybody got xrdp(a rdp server) working on Intrepid?
[08:01] <Paul_> has anyone run IE in wine?
[08:01] <steven> does anybody knows what's going on with jaunty and intel
[08:01] <Evil_saltine> mg_: ok.. what is the URL of the page it took you to?
[08:01] <steven> jaunty+compiz+intel= fail
[08:02] <Paul_> steven: Ive got something, give me a minute
[08:02] <mg_> http://pastebin.com/
[08:02] <raboof> i'd like to configure a vpn, but i'm not running the gnome-toolbar
[08:02] <mg_> correct?
[08:03] <juxta> i'm trying to setup an encrypted root, with a keyfile. when I try to boot, i get nowhere, given that the keyfile is not able to be read (it's on another volume, which isng being mounted). How can I make sure the initrd script mount the volume which contain my keyfiles? (it's a usb key)
[08:03] <raboof> the docs tell me to click on the network-manager in the system tray, but it's not there - can I also start it from the commandline?
[08:03] <mg_> about to cout and paste
[08:03] <mg_> cut
[08:04] <martingoal> i made a small script and would like it to run at startup, i've made it so its excutable. someone said put it into my home folder and it should fire up but it does not am i doing something wrong
[08:04] <Piet> Paul_: http://www.ies4linux.org
[08:04] <Evil_saltine> mg_: Yes, but you need the URL it takes you to after you click Send
[08:05] <steven> alright paul
[08:05] <mg_> http://pastebin.com/ is not correct?
[08:05] <Piet> martingoal: do you want it executed while the computer starts up, when it has fully started up, or when you login?
[08:05] <Paul_> steve, I don't know if this is what your looking for, but check it out:  The GM965 is blacklisted on compiz due to some people having freezes it seems, but the X3100 works without a problem! Just edit /usr/bin/compiz and comment the line where it blacklists the GM965. Begins with $T= but can't  remember the rest now.
[08:06] <Evil_saltine> It is, but after you paste the output in and click Send, it will take you to another page. I need the address of that page because it contains what you pasted
[08:06] <Evil_saltine> mg: ^^
[08:06] <Paul_> thanks piet, but I was hoping to get the real IE7 running on jaunty
[08:06] <mg_> gere
[08:06] <Evil_saltine> mg_: i mean see above arrows, not happy arrows
[08:06] <raboof> ah, 'nm-applet'
[08:06] <martingoal> when i login is good piet. its only a simple uptime monitor :-)
[08:06] <mg_> ok
[08:07] <nmvictor> hi guys,is their a .DAT to .ogm  converter for ubuntu?i want to convert my .DAT files,thes seem to be twice as big as .ogm so i figure i could save some space doing the conversion
[08:07] <Piet> Paul_: dunno then. but if you really want that to work, i suggest you use virtualization.
[08:07] <mg_> mg@mg-desktop:~$  http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/
[08:07] <mg_> hmmm i need the ubuntu in there?
[08:08] <mg_> ok
[08:08] <mechdave> mg_, what are you trying to do?
[08:08] <mg_> loading
[08:08] <Paul_> Piet: yeah, that was what I was thinking
[08:08] <Paul_> steeve: C
[08:08] <Evil_saltine> mg_: I was trying to get him to paste the output of amixer
[08:08] <mg_> trying to report my prob about sound
[08:08] <Evil_saltine> mechdave: er
[08:09] <mg_> it might be bug
[08:09] <Evil_saltine> mg_: Sorry, I have to go
[08:09] <mg_> no worries
[08:09] <Evil_saltine> mg_: It might clear itself up if you reboot
[08:09] <steven> hey paul
[08:09] <steven> thanks a lot!
[08:09] <mg_> mmmmm...no it wont
[08:09] <mechdave> Evil_saltine, mg_ if you want to redirect std out and std err to a file do it this way: amixer &> amixer.txt
[08:09] <mg_> thank you Evil no worries
[08:10] <Piet> martingoal: you can invoke it somewhere within ~/.bashrc (if this is the shell you use).
[08:10] <mechdave> Evil_saltine, mg_ then just paste the contents of the file
[08:10] <mg_> ok
[08:10] <mg_> ok
[08:10] <Piet> martingoal: i'm not sure this is the conceptionally right way to do it, but it should work.
[08:10] <Evil_saltine> mg_: np, sorry I couldn't help
[08:10] <devinbhullar> hi
[08:10] <mg_> good night evil
[08:10] <devinbhullar> i have ubuntu machine with two NIC
[08:11] <Paul_> Steven: I don't know if this is what you are looking for, but check it out:  The GM965 is blacklisted on compiz due to some people having freezes it seems, but the X3100 works without a problem! Just edit /usr/bin/compiz and comment the line where it blacklists the GM965. Begins with $T= but can't remember the rest now.
[08:11] <devinbhullar> i want all LAN users connected to the internet to go through an external proxy server IP
[08:11] <Piet> martingoal: note though that you can lock yourself out of your account this way.
[08:11] <steven> alright thanks I'll look into that
[08:11] <devinbhullar> without setting anything on the browser
[08:11] <mechdave> devinbhullar, shouldn't be a problem, just use squid on your box
[08:12] <devinbhullar> yes i tried squid but it still requires me to add my servr IP on the browser
[08:12] <devinbhullar> which i dont want to do
[08:12] <steven> it gives me something to work off of haha thanks a lot of paul yet again
[08:12] <devinbhullar> it has to be automated
[08:12] <devinbhullar> what about guidedog
[08:12] <devinbhullar> or shoud i install web min and play with IP tables
[08:13] <Severity1> ebox
[08:14] <martingoal> ok thanks piet !!! thanks for your help, i've only had ubuntu about a week or two so i might not risk it just yet . its only a one liner script. dont want to run before i can walk
[08:14] <Gamarok__> hey guys i kinda had a question how come when i install screenlets and add the togle composting screenlets and activate it i still get some effects without having to install the graphic card driver i mean can any one explain to me how it works
[08:14] <martingoal> but i put what you said in text editor just incase i feel confident
[08:14] <Piet> martingoal: what does it do if you don't mind telling? maybe there's a better way...
[08:14] <jerknextdoor> can anyone help me with openoffice Calc?  i keep getting a password hash error.
[08:14] <svensko> are there any applications BESIDES open office impress that can be used to view/make .ppt files? Thanks!
[08:15] <mg_> command not found
[08:15] <mg_> sigh
[08:15] <elu> i cant see anything when i log into ubuntu screen resolution/refresh issue. xifix doesnt resolve it. I had to install using alternate installation and i still cant resolve this graphical issue
[08:15] <elu> any ideas?
[08:16] <Gamarok__> pls help me or can anyone else point me to other such apps
[08:16] <martingoal> all it says piet , is watch uptime , with a couple of echos . the only command is watch uptime lol
[08:16] <rAUNCH> hello, how do i configure my mouse dpi in ubuntu?
[08:16] <martingoal> so its not complex as i'm a newbie *red face*
[08:16] <Piet> devinbhullar: why does it have to be automated if it's a one-time change?
[08:17] <Gamarok__> hey guys i kinda had a question how come when i install screenlets and add the togle composting screenlets and activate it i still get some effects without having to install the graphic card driver i mean can any one explain to me how it works
[08:17] <mechdave> devinbhullar, Have a look at this --> http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/TransparentProxy.html
[08:17] <Piet> martingoal: ok, and you want to see the output of this on screen or should be written to a logfile or...?
[08:17] <mg_> Ok , I have no sound...I have tried comprehensive sound test with out success
[08:18] <mg_> wow, you guys get innudated all day long i guess
[08:18] <martingoal> on screen piet yep! so its running in terminal straight off the bat
[08:18] <mg_> my soundcard is detected
[08:18] <Baconizer> Greetings!
[08:19] <ubuntu> hello
[08:19] <mg_> i think it is something i ran in azereus
[08:19] <dnyy> I tried installing the new ubuntu on a USB stick (persistent) following the guide on pendrivelinux, but it doesn't boot.  I get an error about missing module and get sent to a busybox shell.  Has anyone worked around this/know what the problem is?
[08:19] <mg_> i am thinking of re-installing
[08:19] <martingoal> if its too complex i will leave it as i only just started trying a script today , i just wondered if it was like windows where you could copy it to a startup type folder
[08:19] <maniel> hi
[08:20] <mechdave> mg_, is there any errors in /var/log/messages?
[08:20] <mg_> i will try
[08:20] <mg_> sudo?
[08:20] <Warr> anyone else think its bull that netflix doesn support streaming to linux?
[08:20] <steven> yessss
[08:20] <maniel> when is rc.local executed?
[08:20] <steven> i totally agree with the linux thing
[08:20] <steven> netflix
[08:21] <maniel> is it executed at all?
[08:21] <mechdave> mg_, if you type my name first it will show red in my screen so I can see your message
[08:21] <Piet> martingoal: there's no "startup folder" on linux, no.
[08:21] <martingoal> i also made a mistake today by thinking home folder meant the folder named home
[08:21] <martingoal> oh ok thanks Piet
[08:21] <Warr> thats all I really have to say.
[08:21] <Piet> martingoal: i assume you would want this command to run inside a window on your graphical desktop, right?
[08:22] <mg_> mechdave sudo first?
[08:22] <maniel> there is ls .config/autostart/ btw, not all dms ate respecting that
[08:22] <mechdave> martingoal, you can start programs at login by adding their full path to .bash_profile in your home directory
[08:22] <martingoal> you mean like a terminal window, piet? if so yep
[08:22] <ccb0x45> hey
[08:22] <ccb0x45> is there any tool I can run
[08:22] <ccb0x45> to see if my hard drive failed?
[08:22] <Gamarok__> hey guys i kinda had a question how come when i install screenlets and add the togle composting screenlets and activate it i still get some effects without having to install the graphic card driver i mean can any one explain to me how it works
[08:23] <Guest97220> Here's a scenario, I'd like to see under the hood as to what happens when I switch my primary and secondary mouse buttons
[08:23] <Guest97220> So that I can run these commands in CLI
[08:23] <Piet> martingoal: exactly. :) i did not mean to use this term since you said you were new to linux
[08:23] <mg_> mechdave command not found
[08:23] <Guest97220> instead of having to go through the menu interface every time
[08:23] <mechdave> mg_, should just be able to use tail like this: tail -n 100 /var/log/messages > ~/messages.txt
[08:23] <Piet> martingoal: in this case, you can setup the command to be executed in gnome session manager
[08:23] <ccb0x45> I think my hard drive crashed
[08:24] <ccb0x45> but I am not sure
[08:24] <ccb0x45> is there any sort of tool I can run from a cd
[08:24] <ccb0x45> to check it out
[08:24] <Flynsarmy> Is there a way to get nautilus tabs to switch when you ctrl+tab like in every other program known to man besides gedit?
[08:24] <DarkRavin> it should be /msg <name> <message>
[08:24] <mechdave> mg_, then use gedit to open messages.txt and paste it
[08:24] <Guest97220> So how do I switch primary/secondary mouse buttons over the command line
[08:25] <elu> i cant se ubuntu login page its just a mess or garbled colours. i presume i need to update non released drivers.
[08:25] <martingoal> ok piet i will take a look! - do i have to create this file, mechdave?
[08:25] <mg_> ok gedit
[08:25] <Piet> martingoal: run "gnome-session-properties" from within a terminal window to configure the gnome session manager and the commands it will execute on startup
[08:25] <Guest97220> ccb0x45:unmount your drive, and run fsck
[08:25] <martingoal> ok piet, i will give that a whirl now!
[08:26] <mg_> mechdave yikes gottit
[08:26] <ccb0x45> Guest, what specifically should I run
[08:26] <ccb0x45> with fsck
[08:26] <ccb0x45> I have that on a recovery cd
[08:26] <mechdave> martingoal, no, it should already be there, try opening it with text editor (be careful, anything you add to the file will get executed on login, you can bork your login if not careful)
[08:26] <mg_> mechdave its a whole new window
[08:26] <mechdave> mg_, you opened it with gedit?
[08:27] <mg_> mechdave you want it all?
[08:27] <mg_> yes
[08:27] <mg_> mechdave yes
[08:27] <yaycougars> you need to unmount your drive first
[08:27] <yaycougars> then you need to run fsck
[08:27] <ccb0x45> does fcits un mounted
[08:27] <ccb0x45> unmounted
[08:27] <ccb0x45> cause its from a cd
[08:27] <yaycougars> on the logical representation of your drive
[08:27] <martingoal> done piet, thank you, i will log off in a few then give it a try out!
[08:27] <ccb0x45> so like /dev/sda1
[08:27] <martingoal> ok mechdave will just have a looksie
[08:27] <ccb0x45> but can fcsk fix it
[08:27] <martingoal> i will not touch it today but writing what you said in pad too
[08:27] <Piet> martingoal: good luck
[08:27] <ccb0x45> or just tell me if there is a problem
[08:27] <mechdave> mg_, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste it
[08:28] <yaycougars> sounds like that's your drive, is it a SATA drive
[08:28] <Flynsarmy> Anyone? A way to make ctrl+tab switch tabs in nautilus?
[08:28] <ShadowSniper> hey, i got a quick sound question, can some1 give me a hand?
[08:28] <yaycougars> sda1 will be the first partition
[08:28] <mg_> mechdave ok
[08:28] <ccb0x45> yea its a sata drive
[08:28] <yaycougars> on that drive, you want to run it on the entire drive
[08:28] <yaycougars> not just that partition
[08:28] <ccb0x45> so what would it probably be
[08:28] <ccb0x45> /dev/sda?
[08:28] <ccb0x45> or ada?
[08:28] <ccb0x45> ata I mean
[08:28] <yaycougars> /dev/sda
[08:28] <martingoal> ok brb going to test then i will be back!
[08:29] <ccb0x45> k
[08:29] <ccb0x45> can fcsk fix anything
[08:29] <ccb0x45> or just tell me if its fucked up
[08:29] <yaycougars> you can read all about it by doing a man on fsck
[08:29] <yaycougars> man fsck
[08:29] <ccb0x45> ok
[08:29] <yaycougars> it will attempt to fix your drive
[08:29] <mechdave> !language > ccb0x45
[08:29] <ShadowSniper> can someone please help with a sound problem?
[08:30] <yaycougars> but it's not guaranteed, and keep in mind
[08:30] <ccb0x45> oops
[08:30] <ccb0x45> sorry bout the language
[08:30] <yaycougars> if you really value your data, you should probably clone your drive first
[08:30] <ccb0x45> let me give fcsk a try
[08:30] <ccb0x45> Iwell
[08:30] <ccb0x45> well
[08:30] <ccb0x45> if the hd crashed
[08:30] <FloodBot2> ccb0x45: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:30] <ccb0x45> I think the data is lost
[08:30] <yaycougars> onto another drive and try to recover your data from the cloned drive, as fsck but be destructive
[08:30] <yaycougars> it's like an operation pretty much, it's got its risks
[08:30] <yaycougars> see what  i mean
[08:30] <mechdave> ccb0x45, no worries, just something to keep in mind... This is a family room :)
[08:30] <ccb0x45> ill risk it, I dont have a big enough drive to clone it
[08:30] <Piet> ShadowSniper: not unless you tell us what the problem is. don't ask to ask. ;-)
[08:31] <yaycougars> ok, so first unmount it
[08:31] <ccb0x45> lets see what happens
[08:31] <ccb0x45> when I fcsk it
[08:31] <yaycougars> don't run fsck against a mounted disk
[08:31] <yaycougars> umount it first
[08:32] <ccb0x45> its not mounted
[08:32] <ShadowSniper> Piet, alright, well i've got 6 output jacks on my mb but the one that is set for output is dead and i was tryen to figure out how to set another one of the ports as a line out
[08:32] <ccb0x45> ubuntu wont load
[08:32] <ccb0x45> I have to do it from a cd
[08:32] <yaycougars> are you sure
[08:32] <mechdave> yaycougars, does fsck complain if it is mounted and exit?
[08:32] <mg_> mechdave crap i lost it
[08:32] <Flynsarmy> Anyone? A way to make ctrl+tab switch tabs in nautilus?
[08:32] <yaycougars> run sudo fdisk -l to be sure
[08:32] <mg_> hold on
[08:32] <ccb0x45> well if I am booting from a linux system restore disk, I doubt its mounted
[08:32] <ccb0x45> let me try
[08:33] <yaycougars> ok, so it's probably not mounted
[08:33] <Piet> ShadowSniper: huh, i guess you'd have to solder a little on your motherboard then
[08:33] <yaycougars> but always verify
[08:33] <oyayitsminh> I LOVE YOU :)
[08:33] <steven> oh hey
[08:33] <oyayitsminh> oops
[08:33] <oyayitsminh> -_-
[08:33] <mechdave> ccb0x45, the live disk won't mount the hard disks automatically
[08:33] <ccb0x45> yea
[08:33] <ccb0x45> its not actually the live disk, its another linux system restore
[08:33] <Piet> ShadowSniper: oh 6 _output_ jacks. i see, that's a lot, must be a very special board
[08:33] <senPai> hi
[08:33] <asfjio> hello, i'm isung firefox 2.x and now i want to update to 3.x. i've read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion#Manual%20Install but there is no word about uninstalling the previous version. can someone help?
[08:34] <ShadowSniper> Piet, their able to be changed, the driver software in windows lets me pick, and i imagine i just need to play with the modprobe info
[08:34] <indus> hi
[08:34] <ccb0x45> ok
[08:34] <mechdave> asfjio, you should just be able to upgrade without uninstall
[08:34] <sexcopter> hi, i want to mount an nfs share (via command line is fine) and set myself (james) as owner of the whole share. What are the options for doing this?
[08:34] <asfjio> mechdave: how?
[08:34] <ShadowSniper> Piet, not really, their just standard 3.5 mm jacks
[08:34] <mechdave> indus, Welcome
[08:34] <ccb0x45> it said: superblock invalid, trying backup blocks, bad magic number in super block while trying to open /dev/sda
[08:34] <indus> asfjio: just delete the firefox folder where you installed it,if you have installed manually
[08:35] <ShadowSniper> Piet, most mbs come with 6-8 these days
[08:35] <indus> mechdave: hi good to see you
[08:35] <yaycougars> ok, run fsck against the first partition, instead of the whole drive
[08:35] <khermans> asfjio, dpkg -l | grep -i firefox
[08:35] <yaycougars> sda1
[08:35] <mg_> mechdave......can you just reccomend a place to reinstall?
[08:35] <yaycougars> not sda
[08:35] <Piet> ShadowSniper: hmm, if anyone knows how to achieve that on linux then it's the alsa developers, i'd think: http://www.alsa-project.org/
[08:35] <mechdave> asfjio, All I have done before is sudo apt-get install firefox
[08:35] <mg_> mechdave its too much now
[08:35] <ccb0x45> sda1 worked
[08:35] <mechdave> mg_, what do you mean re install
[08:35] <ccb0x45> says recovering journal
[08:36] <mg_> mechdave i mean everything
[08:36] <mg_> Ubuntu
[08:36] <asfjio> khermans: this shows me 6 rows is that normal?
[08:36] <ShadowSniper> Piet, would i need to do anything with pulse audio?
[08:36] <Piet> ShadowSniper: yes, 6 to 8 jacks, but not 6-8 _output_ jacks
[08:36] <mechdave> Lol, my pc speaker is beeping every time I hit a key :/
[08:36] <khermans> asfjio, yes now just locate which packages are related to firefox 2 and remove them
[08:36] <ccb0x45> yaycougars, is this something I should just leave over night
[08:36] <ccb0x45> like it will take a while?
[08:36] <asfjio> khermans: remove you mean just delete?
[08:37] <khermans> asfjio, dpkg manages packages for you -- removal is done by dpkg
[08:37] <Piet> ShadowSniper: maybe, but only after you set it up on alsa
[08:37] <khermans> asfjio, just ask it to do what you want
[08:37] <senPai> just remove on synaptic
[08:37] <ShadowSniper> Piet, alright
[08:37] <yaycougars> shouldn't take very long
[08:37] <mechdave> mg_, you can just back up all your home directory and reboot into a live disk and reinstall that way
[08:37] <yaycougars> how big is the disk
[08:37] <ccb0x45> its a 500gig drive
[08:37] <yaycougars> wow that's a lot of porn
[08:37] <ccb0x45> haha
[08:37] <Piet> ShadowSniper: pulseaudio is 'just' a sounds server, it does mixnmojo, but the software that directly interacts with your hardware is alsa
[08:37] <mg_> mechdave command?
[08:37] <indus> yeah hehe'
[08:37] <ccb0x45> it was my mythtv box
[08:38] <ccb0x45> 98% full
[08:38] <mechdave> funnily enough it only beeps in xchat
[08:38] <yaycougars> you can check what it's doing
[08:38] <yaycougars> under the hood
[08:38] <ShadowSniper> Piet, alright, thats what i thought but i wasnt sure
[08:38] <yaycougars> I think /var/log/syslog or dmesg but log what fsck is doing
[08:38] <yaycougars> honestly I'm not sure where you'd find logging data for fsck, anyone? anyone? bueller?
[08:38] <ccb0x45> ill just let it go over night
[08:39] <ccb0x45> nm
[08:39] <ccb0x45> just finished
[08:39] <mg_> mechdave i have been of this sound thing foir over a month
[08:39] <yaycougars> any output?
[08:39] <asfjio> khermans: 4 of this 6 rows are version 2.x am i supposed to remove all of them? and another what is this ubufox and do i need it?
[08:39] <mg_> mechdave way too long
[08:39] <ccb0x45> attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to re-open /dev/sda1
[08:39] <mechdave> mg_, copy all your home directory to a usb stick like this:  cp -rv $HOME/ /media/usb-stick
[08:39] <ccb0x45> io manager magic bad!
[08:39] <Seven-7> Is there a way to view my COPY/PASTE history?
[08:39] <yaycougars> https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/where-the-fsck-cumulative-logs-lie-666914/
[08:39] <yaycougars> there we go
[08:39] <mg_> mechdave ok
[08:39] <ccb0x45> guessing
[08:39] <ccb0x45> thats probably a bad sign
[08:39] <mechdave> mg_, what sound card do you have?
[08:40] <mg_> nvidia
[08:40] <yaycougars> One place you should look for further information is in the lost+found directory on the partition which you ran fsck against. fsck places orphan files and directories in lost+found.
[08:40] <Piet> yaycougars: /var/log/fsck.log surprisingly ;-)
[08:40] <mg_> mechdave nvidia3
[08:40] <mechdave> mg_, model?
[08:40] <yaycougars> Cool, you see anything useful in there?
[08:40] <Jinxed553> which packages do I need to install the g++ compiler so I can run c++ programs I can't even get hello world to run right now
[08:40] <ccb0x45> yaycougars, does that message mean my drive is just screwed?
[08:40] <mg_> mechdave yeah not sure about that
[08:41] <yaycougars> what message
[08:41] <mg_> mechdave which is prob
[08:41] <mechdave> mg_, isn't that a video card?
[08:41] <maniel> how to make sure rc.local is launched at startup?
[08:41] <khermans> asfjio, ubufox is an ubuntu addon for firefox
[08:41] <ccb0x45> fsck.ext3: attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to re-open /dev/sda1, io manager magic bad!
[08:41] <khermans> asfjio, helps you click on apt:// links
[08:41] <mg_> mechdave  it might be tied to videio
[08:41] <Piet> mechdave: that should be 'cp -pr foo bar'
[08:42] <mg_> nvidia iws sound
[08:42] <mg_> mechdave nvidia is sound?
[08:42] <indus> i didnt know nvidia makes sound cards
[08:42] <mechdave> mg_, Piet just corrected me... that should be 'cp -pr foo bar'
[08:42] <indus> indus: i guess nforce?
[08:42] <yaycougars> do you see any I/O errors in the logs?
[08:42] <mg_> mechdave :)
[08:42] <mechdave> mg_, can you paste the output from lspci?
[08:43] <ccb0x45> I dont know if it wrote any logs
[08:43] <mg_> mechdave yeah i will try
[08:43] <ccb0x45> I am on a cd
[08:43] <asfjio> khermans: thank you
[08:43] <ccb0x45> it cant write to it
[08:43] <ccb0x45> ah
[08:43] <khermans> asfjio, np
[08:43] <ccb0x45> I just spit out dmesg
[08:43] <ccb0x45> tons of IO errors
[08:43] <mechdave> mg_, right back... minus beeps :)
[08:43] <yaycougars> I think you'll need to try to rescue that disk
[08:44] <yaycougars> it sounds like you have a disk with hardware issues
[08:44] <khermans> asfjio, dpkg -l | grep -i firefox | grep '2.' | while read line; do sudo aptitude remove $(echo "$line" | awk '{print $2}'); done
[08:44] <yaycougars> you can use dd_rescue
[08:44] <yaycougars> that will try to copy what it can to another disk and give up on bad bits
[08:44] <ccb0x45> damn
[08:44] <ccb0x45> well that sucks
[08:44] <yaycougars> you can try running e2fsck
[08:45] <yaycougars> but that's almost the same as fsck really
[08:45] <|ntegra|1> how do I "cp rec000012.bz2-rec000092.bz2 /new_dir/" ?
[08:45]  * mechdave thinks khermans is a shell wizard :)
[08:45] <yaycougars> it might actually drop some files in lost+found but, yeah not too hopeful
[08:45] <brianski> is there a way to disable that "60 seconds until restart" prompt in jaunty?
[08:45] <ccb0x45> no
[08:45] <Piet> ccb0x45: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=490683
[08:45] <ccb0x45> fcsck e2fsck
[08:45] <mg_> mechdave it says no such directory
[08:45] <ccb0x45> both wont work anymore
[08:45] <yaycougars> http://osdir.com/ml/file-systems.ext3.user/2002-09/msg00158.html
[08:45] <mechdave> just type lspci into terminal
[08:46] <mg_> mechdave sorry i am retarded
[08:46] <mechdave> mg_, you are new to this... steep learning curve
[08:46] <mg_> yes
[08:46] <mechdave> mg_, I was there once too :)
[08:46] <Jinxed553> !g++
[08:47] <Jinxed553> !packages
[08:47] <yaycougars> sorry ccb hope you get some of your data back
[08:47] <mg_> mechdave is sudo wrong command?
[08:48] <Piet> |ntegra|1: cp rec0000{12..92}.bz2 /new_dir/
[08:48] <mg_> mechdave......~$ cp -pr foo bar
[08:48] <|ntegra|1> Piet: thanx
[08:48] <mechdave> mg_, no sudo is a command to give you root privileges to change some files, in this case you do not need it
[08:49] <mg_> mechdave with sudo in front]
[08:49] <divxclub> hi guys !!!! In 8.10 I just love when there is new updates available I have this caution appear from task bar, same thing if I am connecting to Internet from task bar there is this thing appear and tells me. Now in 9.04 I don't see no announcements like that. Can I turn them on ? Thank you !
[08:49] <khermans> anyone got any really tough questions?  :-)
[08:49] <mechdave> mg_, Aha, hang on... where is your usb stick mounted?
[08:49] <mg_> mechdave so just it all its own
[08:49] <yaycougars> khermans I have one
[08:50] <mg_> mechdave USB stick mounted in my CPU i guess
[08:50] <khermans> yaycougars, shoot
[08:50] <Jinxed553> Could someone please help me figure out why I can't compile anything within ubuntu
[08:50] <mechdave> mg_, an easier way is to open up home directory from the places menu and double click the usb stick icon on the desktop
[08:50] <mg_> mechdave OK
[08:50] <mechdave> mg_, that will open up two windows
[08:51] <yaycougars> Where are menu action items logged? ie let's say I do a System -> Preferences -> Mouse -> Mouse Orientation=left-handed
[08:51] <mechdave> mg_, then in the home directory window click on view and then check show all files box
[08:51] <ccb0x45> yep
[08:51] <yaycougars> I want to know exactly how this happened under the hood so I can do this on the command line
[08:51] <ccb0x45> my hard drive is pretty screwed
[08:51] <mg_> mechdave oh did IO  mention that i have Kubuntu since an hour agou :)
[08:51] <khermans> yaycougars, .gconf
[08:52] <asfjio> khermans: is it bad to use this way to install firefox https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion#Manual%20Install ?
[08:52] <Piet> Jinxed553: which error message do you run into while trying to compile?
[08:52] <khermans> asfjio, you should always try to leverage repositories of software so you get automatic updates
[08:52] <mechdave> mg_, One hour eh? that is what you are running now?
[08:52] <mg_> mechdave which is nice bur=t i am learning
[08:52] <khermans> asfjio, dont do manual installs
[08:52] <maniel> hi, how to make rc.local run at startup?
[08:52] <mg_> mechdave kubuntu
[08:52] <mg_> mrchdave lol
[08:53] <khermans> maniel, it runs automatically alreayd
[08:53] <mg_> oh boy
[08:53] <mechdave> mg_, ok it is a little different to how I told you, but we need to see the hidden files in your home directory
[08:53] <mg_> mechdave ok
[08:54] <acuster> hello everyone, how can we tell apt that we do not wish to install a particular package during future upgrades?
[08:54] <divxclub> anyone ?
[08:54] <mg_> is that me?
[08:54] <mechdave> mg_, I have to go soon, hot date tonight :)
[08:54] <acuster> or more accurately, what program's man page do I need to read?
[08:54] <mg_> mechdave good luck
[08:54] <DJones> !pinning | acuster This might be what you're looking for
[08:55] <khermans> acuster, apt-pinning
[08:55] <acuster> thank you
[08:55] <yaycougars> khermans:thanks
[08:55] <yaycougars> I see this <entry name="left_handed" mtime="1242372529" type="bool" value="true"/>
[08:55] <asfjio> khermans: the problem is that i'm using old version of ubuntu and i can't update. so is this my only way to have firefox updated?
[08:55] <mechdave> mg_, so do you have those 2 windows open?
[08:55] <khermans> mechdave, check out PlentyOfFish.com
[08:55] <mg_> mechdave no worries i van go a day or two more
[08:55] <yaycougars> I can change this to right_handed, but in one command, I suppose I'll have to use sed or something, and I don't know sed really well
[08:55] <mg_> mechdave not yet
[08:55] <maniel> khermans: i have no "Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)" message in console when i press ctrl+alt+f8 and also program i want to launch from there isn't present on ps fax output
[08:56] <mg_> mechdave i will
[08:56] <yaycougars> can you figure out a one-line or a shell script that would swap left to right hands?
[08:56] <mechdave> khermans, Thanks... like the site says Plenty of fish :)
[08:56] <yaycougars> ~/.gconf/desktop/gnome/peripherals/mouse
[08:56] <yaycougars> that's the finle
[08:56] <yaycougars> file rather
[08:56] <khermans> asfjio, probably so -- why cant you upgrade ubuntu?
[08:56] <ottoshmidt> Openoffice.org Database won't start after update to 3.1.0 on Jackalope
[08:56] <Piet> acuster: also look into man (8) aptitude, "forbid-version"
[08:57] <mechdave> mg_, I have about half hour left to spend here
[08:57] <khermans> maniel, does rc.local work if you execute it manually?
[08:57] <maniel> khermans: manual execution works;-)
[08:57] <mg_> mechdave sorry i cant find palces
[08:57] <divxclub> hi guys !!!! In 8.10 I just love when there is new updates available I have this caution appear from task bar, same thing if I am connecting to Internet from task bar there is this thing appear and tells me. Now in 9.04 I don't see no announcements like that. Can I turn them on ? Thank you !
[08:57] <mg_> geez
[08:58] <mg_> i cant find places
[08:58] <khermans> yaycougars, sed "s/left_handed/right_handed/g" ~/.gconf/desktop/gnome/peripherals/mouse
[08:58] <mg_> mechdave applications?
[08:58] <khermans> yaycougars, if the results looks good, pass the -i option alos to sed and it will make the change
[08:59] <khermans> maniel, you might have to do some upstart troubleshooting then
[08:59] <ghindo> divxclub: From 9.04 onwards, the notification system has changed.  Everything is handled under the notify-osd spec
[08:59] <asfjio> khermans: it is too complicated, but it is some company politic that use a kind of modificated ubuntu image and it is updated only when they choose to update. if i try to update i take a risk to broke my login system (kerberos or some kind of this). i'm not prety sure about it.
[08:59] <ghindo> !notify-osd | divxclub
[08:59] <yareckon> dude, what the hell is this mysql-server 5.1.30really5.0.75-0ubuntu10.1
[08:59] <asfjio> khermans: thank you again
[08:59] <acuster> Piet, thanks also
[08:59] <yareckon> since when are we naming packages like that...
[08:59] <yareckon> and it fails to upgrade btw
[08:59] <khermans> asfjio, a nice trick is to attempt adding the latest repository for januty, aptitude update, install firefox, then set mback your repos
[09:00] <mechdave> Anyone familiar with kde, mg_ needs a little help with backing up his home directory... I only know Gnome :(
[09:00] <Jinxed553> Could someone please help me figure out why I can't compile anything within ubuntu
[09:00] <khermans> asfjio, i dont know what version of ubuntu you are currently on, but if it tries to upgrade lots of other packages in addition to firefox, dont do it
[09:00] <mechdave> Jinxed553, you need to install build-essential
[09:00] <mg_> mechdave no worries go do what you need maybe we talk again
[09:00] <yareckon> Jinxed553, do you have all of the
[09:00] <yareckon> what he said
[09:01] <Jinxed553> mechdave: I have that installed
[09:01] <Jinxed553> acording to synaptic
[09:01] <mechdave> mg_, sorry mate, I don't know enough about kde :(
[09:01] <mg_> mechdave thank you for helping
[09:01] <mechdave> Jinxed553, what are you trying to compile?
[09:01] <v4us> Hi. I have a problem with laptop_mode. It doesn't rerun after sleep and prolly in boot state. I changesd /etc/default/acpi-support but it doens't helps. It seems like i should change acpid settings, but i cannot find it
[09:01] <Piet> Jinxed553: i tried, you diod not respond
[09:01] <maniel> khermans: is there any possibility that rc.local gets executed before all modules i've placed in /etc/modules load?
[09:02] <Jinxed553> Piet: I'm sorry i keep going back and forth trying things but nothing was working
[09:02] <khermans> maniel, its possible
[09:02] <asfjio> khermans: i'd better stay when nothing is broker, because i don't want to have problems with the administrators.
[09:02] <khermans> maniel, upstart is not linear
 Jinxed553: which error message do you run into while trying to compile?
[09:03] <khermans> asfjio, why not?  :-)  dont you enjoy a good challenge?  ;-P
[09:03] <Piet> Jinxed553: also: how (exact command line) and what are you trying to compile?
[09:03] <Jinxed553> http://mibbit.com/pb/H8SFMu
[09:03] <maniel> what i'm trying to launch in rc.local is xboxdrv an userspace driver for  xbox[360] controllers that needs uinput module
[09:03] <khermans> asfjio, you think the sysadmins are god?
[09:03] <Jinxed553> g++ helloworld.cpp
[09:03] <Piet> Jinxed553: so you are about to learn c++?
[09:04] <Jinxed553> Piet: well I know some c++ but I just copied/pasted a  helloworld file from online to make sure I wasn't doing it wrong
[09:04] <asfjio> khermans: the fact that i'm using outdated ubuntu prove that they are NOT god.
[09:04] <duh_> can any1 plz help me with CS 1.6 . seems like it can't find network...can't connect to any server at all =\ . Ubuntu 9.04, wine 1.1.20
[09:05] <|ntegra|1> Piet: how could I use a wildcard in there too (cp rec000012 rec000022 - rec000202 rec000212 /new_dir/)
[09:06] <mg_> alsa is my problem
[09:06] <Piet> Jinxed553: have you already done this? sudo aptitude install build-essential
[09:06] <v4us> mg_, have you tried to rebuid it?
[09:06] <Piet> Jinxed553: aside from this, i don't think this channel is the #1 location for getting support in improving your programming skills. better ask in #cpp
[09:06] <khermans> asfjio, yeah, so screw them ;-P  they try to take away your freedom
[09:06] <khermans> asfjio, dont put up with that crap
[09:07] <mg_> at one time i was running ubuntu.but know i have kubuntu
[09:07] <Jinxed553> Piet: I checked in the package manager and it says build-essential is installed
[09:07] <mg_> which is njice dont get me wrong
[09:07] <v4us> mg_:try this script  http://aldeby.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/alsa_setup it helped me
[09:07] <khermans> Jinxed553, /join ##c++
[09:07] <mg_> v4us ok i will
[09:07] <Jinxed553> khermans: it is not a c++ syntax question it is how to get the compiler in ubuntu
[09:08] <khermans> Jinxed553, g++
[09:08] <Jinxed553> and I am in c++ and no one has responded
[09:08] <khermans> Jinxed553, what is your error?
[09:08] <Jinxed553> I am just trying to get the g++ compiler installed (I am only testing with a hello world file_
[09:08] <Jinxed553> khermans: http://mibbit.com/pb/H8SFMu
[09:08] <Piet> |ntegra|1: cp rec000012 rec0000{22..99} rec000{100..202} rec000212 /new_dir/
[09:09] <mg_> wow
[09:09] <|ntegra|1> that looks mighty interesting
[09:09] <v4us> Hm,,, Guys do you have any ideas about laptop_mode autorun?
[09:09] <Jinxed553> http://mibbit.com/pb/THJct0 (the helloworld file)
[09:09] <khermans> Jinxed553, sudo aptitude install g++
[09:10] <asfjio> khermans: :)
[09:10] <Jinxed553> khermans: did that
[09:10] <Jinxed553> still doesn't work
[09:10] <maxagaz> how to add user foo to the group vboxusers ?
[09:10] <Chr|s> how do I edit the kernel through menuconfig?
[09:10] <khermans> maxagaz, edit /etc/group
[09:10] <mg_> it says for ubuntu can i do this with kubuntu?
[09:11] <Piet> maxagaz: sudo adduser foo vboxusers
[09:11] <mg_> meh. i go for it
[09:11] <khermans> Jinxed553, you need the -dev packages
[09:11] <khermans> Jinxed553, http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=iostream.h&mode=exactfilename&suite=jaunty&arch=any
[09:11] <mg_> btw you guys know all the code...impressive
[09:12] <khermans> Jinxed553, sudo aptitude install libstdc++6-4.2-dev
[09:12] <khermans> Jinxed553, depends on your version of g++ though
[09:12] <Jinxed553> khermans: so I shouldn't do that sudo libst... comand yet
[09:13] <|ntegra|1> Piet: hang on,, I didn't explain myself proper,, the files are rec0000*2, rec0001*2, rec0002(0&1)2
[09:13] <khermans> Jinxed553, no
[09:13] <|ntegra|1> just the 21 of them, then I've got 116 of them in total to cp and cat and tar
[09:13] <roadi> well i need some helpe.... i used the 4th cd/dvd for the ubuntu image and always get an error in the beginning of the installation that a .deb files is corrupt - but the md5 sum is okay. ... any hints? btw the hardware is new.
[09:13] <khermans> Jinxed553, yo ucan try it
[09:14] <Piet> |ntegra|1: cp rec0000*2 rec0001*2 rec0002{0,1}2 /new_dir/
[09:14] <mg_>  apt-get -y install build-essential ncurses-dev gettext
[09:14] <mg_> bash: udo: command not found
[09:14] <Piet> |ntegra|1: watch out, * matches multiple characters, too
[09:15] <v4us> ?
[09:16] <Jinxed553> khermans: Piet Here is what packages I have installed: http://www.picturepush.com/public/1727195
[09:16] <mg_> v4us i am just going to reinstall
[09:16] <ocs>  hi. I have an external usb HD, formatted to ext3. When plugged, the OS sees it. but I can't copy or create files into it. What can I do ?
[09:16] <Jinxed553> khermans: Can you tell which version of the dev I need from that?
[09:16] <v4us> mg_ i wish you good luck!
[09:16] <Piet> |ntegra|1: cp rec000{0..1}{0..9}2 rec0002{0,1}2 /new_dir/
[09:16] <JOKER1> http://testurl.com/foo.html
[09:16] <khermans> Jinxed553, paste at ubuntu please
[09:16] <mg_> 4vus where can i do that since i have no cd-rom?
[09:16] <Piet> |ntegra|1: i think that's what you really want
[09:17] <v4us> I have a problem with laptop_mode. It doesn't rerun after sleep and prolly in boot state. I changesd /etc/default/acpi-support but it doens't helps. It seems like i should change acpid settings, but i cannot find it Any idea?
[09:17] <BePhantom> hi guys, i need help. I created a file but it has only root access, how can i change its permission so im able to modify it?
[09:17] <Jinxed553> khermans: what is the image pastebin for ubuntu?
[09:17] <Piet> |ntegra|1: you can test by replacing "cp" by "echo"
[09:17] <SydneyGuy> Hello guys
[09:17] <khermans> Jinxed553, you dont need an image, just use command line
[09:17] <Jinxed553> Idk how to check which packages I have for g++ on command line khermans
[09:17] <|ntegra|1> Piet: that's beautiful, thanx, I'll go and mull over that syntax awhile (it worked perfectly)
[09:18] <khermans> v4us, check out /etc/acpi.d folder
[09:18] <BePhantom> how can i remove root permission to a file?
[09:18] <khermans> Jinxed553, just install the one i told you then try to rebuild your helloworld
[09:18] <Piet> |ntegra|1: it's the same as this: cp rec0000{0..9}2 rec0001{0..9}2 rec0002{0,1}2 /new_dir/
[09:19] <SydneyGuy> I've just started using GPG .. on Ubuntu 9.04 .. Using GNU Privacy Assistant .. it says Owner Trust Ultimate .. Key Validity Fully Valid .. but using GnuPG on my Mac OS X .. Validity is unknown .. can anyone help me here please
[09:19] <khermans> BePhantom, chmod u-rwx
[09:19] <swiftarrow> I'm reading the page on CTAN, and it says that an image, marginpar, etc was lost.  But I get the following: http://pastebin.tlhiv.org/lqQx21LX
[09:19] <Jinxed553> khermans: will that interfere with the 6-4.3-dev package I have installed
[09:19] <swiftarrow> I'm reading the page on CTAN, and it says that an image, marginpar, etc was lost.  But I get the following: http://pastebin.tlhiv.org/lqQx21LX
[09:19] <mg_> v4us sorry dude, i am trying...i love ubuntu
[09:19] <swiftarrow> Have I really lost text?
[09:19] <mg_> SCREW WINDOWS
[09:19] <Buiss> I am able to use IRC, i am able to browsw www.ubuntu.com
[09:19] <khermans> SydneyGuy, do you have the key published and imported ?
[09:19] <Buiss> But no other sites are shown
[09:19] <Buiss> even google. I just installed sea monkey
[09:19] <nathan> is it possible to install ubuntu 9.04 from the normal install dvd without installing xorg?  i just want a base install.
[09:19] <FloodBot2> Buiss: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:19] <swiftarrow> mg_, Microsoft already did
[09:19] <Buiss> synaptic can download it.What could be the problem?
[09:19] <mg_> lol
[09:19] <SydneyGuy> My key is : DCC6CDA4
[09:20] <v4us> khermans there is no this foolder, but acpid runs
[09:20] <BePhantom> khermans, ok, done. Do i need to reboot?
[09:20] <khermans> nathan-_, prolly
[09:20] <SydneyGuy> khermans : yes
[09:20] <joeDeuce> .
[09:20] <khermans> SydneyGuy, http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gnupg-user.xml
[09:21] <khermans> v4us, sorry /etc/acpi/*
[09:21] <khermans> BePhantom, no
[09:21] <khermans> BePhantom, never reboot unless kernel !
[09:21] <SydneyGuy> By the way .. I made the ID on Ubuntu . and I exported both the private and public keys to a TrueCrypt USB .. and then Imported them to my Mac OS X
[09:21] <Guest5271> khermans: do you know how i can go about doing it?
[09:21] <BePhantom> khermans, then it didnt work
[09:22] <khermans> Guest5271, doing what?
[09:22] <khermans> BePhantom, it still didnt find iostream.h or you get cout/endl errors?
[09:22] <wormse> is it possible to install ubuntu with the normal install dvd but without installing any of the xorg stuff?  i just want a very minimal install.
[09:22] <BePhantom> khermans, no error in the terminal
[09:23] <SydneyGuy> I've just started using GPG .. on Ubuntu 9.04 .. Using GNU Privacy Assistant .. it says Owner Trust Ultimate .. Key Validity Fully Valid .. but using GnuPG on my Mac OS X .. Validity is unknown .. can anyone help me here please
[09:23] <SydneyGuy> My key is : DCC6CDA4
[09:23] <SydneyGuy> By the way .. I made the ID on Ubuntu . and I exported both the private and public keys to a TrueCrypt USB .. and then Imported them to my Mac OS X
[09:23] <Piet> wormse: that'S what the alternate cd is for
[09:23] <wormse> i've tried the alternate cd, actually a few times, but every time it gives me errors saying it cant find files and such
[09:23] <Piet> !repeat > SydneyGuy
[09:24] <khermans> wormse, at the first boot, go into the options -- might be F2
[09:24] <Piet> wormse: while installing or after the installation is complete?
[09:24] <khermans> BePhantom, doesnt that mean it worked?  ;-)
[09:24] <Buiss> I am able to use IRC, i am able to browsw www.ubuntu.com But no other sites are shown even google. I just installed sea monkey synaptic can download it.What could be the problem?
[09:24] <wormse> while it is installing.  i get to the part where it is extracting files and such, then it starts pumping out all kinds of errors
[09:25] <mg_> OK then where can i get a new ubuntu?
[09:25] <mg_> sourceforge?
[09:25] <khermans> Buiss, you could try running wireshark to find out whats going wrong
[09:25] <Piet> wormse: do as khermans says
[09:25] <wormse> F4 is modes, i get normal, safe graphics mode, use driver update disc and OEM install.
[09:25] <Buiss> khermans: A little more detail..please
[09:26] <mg_> I  loaned out my cdrom and never got it back
[09:26] <khermans> wormse, you *might* be able to do it in OEM mode
[09:26] <khermans> wormse, i have never used the install DVD though
[09:26] <khermans> Buiss, sudo aptitude install wireshark; sudo wireshark
[09:26] <mg_> sourceforge?
[09:26] <Piet> mg_: download or order a new one
[09:27] <Buiss> khermans: yES I HAVE DONE THAT.. GOING ON
[09:27] <Piet> mg_: www.ubuntu.com
[09:27] <mg_> piet download from where?
[09:27] <mg_> thank you
[09:27] <Piet> mg_: see also the channel topic
[09:27] <mg_> piet ok i will
[09:28] <mg_> piet thanks bye
[09:29] <Buiss> Where i can get the man pages for kmap, kmalloc etc?
[09:29] <wormse> thanks for the help.  i'll just try to download the iso again, and burn it again.  everything i've searched for says it cant be done
[09:29] <Buiss> Specifically the kernel lib functions.. manpages-dev is missing all those
[09:29] <KingKimi> increase the capactiy of history command ?
[09:30] <joeDeuce> dsfgdfg
[09:30] <khermans> Buiss, run wireshark and monitor your connections to the net from seamonkey
[09:30] <Piet> wormse: chances are your alternate cd is borken, so that can be a good choice
[09:31] <khermans> Buiss, sudo aptitude install manpages-dev
[09:31] <Buiss> khermans: yes. it just finished download
[09:31] <wormse> ya. i've tried to get it a few times.  from torrents all the times.  so i'll try from a mirror now instead.  hopefully that goes better
[09:31] <Buiss> khermans: man pages-dev don't have kernel functions like kmap
[09:31] <khermans> wormse, there is always a way -- but it might be a huge hack
[09:32] <khermans> wormse, install dvd is good if you have no connection to net, but it gets outdated quite easily
[09:33] <maxagaz> how to import mpg video on ubuntu hardy with kino, it doesn't work, i think i need a package
[09:33] <Buiss> khermans: How to do it in wirwshark? i mean where to start?
[09:34] <Buiss> maxagaz: you should install ffmpeg
[09:34] <Lint01> khermans, Ubuntu is always outdated, there's no backports :(
[09:34] <Piet> KingKimi: echo "export HISTSIZE theamountyouwant >> ~/.bashrc"
[09:34] <khermans> Lint01, yeah there are backports
[09:34] <Piet> KingKimi: change "theamount youwant" into a number
[09:34] <khermans> Lint01, check out the jaunty-backports repository ;)
[09:34] <khermans> Buiss, you need to read the docs on wireshark
[09:35] <Piet> KingKimi: this only applies next time you login
[09:35] <KingKimi> piet that outputs export HISTSIZE 10000 >> ~/.bashrc
[09:35] <Jinxed553> khermans: I installed the dev package still no luck
[09:36] <Piet> KingKimi: ah sorry, getting tired here. try this: echo "export HISTSIZE 10000" >> ~/.bashrc
[09:36] <khermans> Jinxed553, what is the error now?
[09:37] <Jinxed553> same
[09:37] <subsume> sudo crontab -e <-- command not found?
[09:37] <vothanhtien84> vothanhtien84
[09:37] <subsume> why is there no crontab on my fresh ubu install?
[09:38] <Jinxed553> khermans: http://paste.ubuntu.com/172857/
[09:38] <Piet> subsume: desktop or alternate install?
[09:38] <subsume> Piet: server
[09:38] <Jinxed553> Do I need the g++-4.3multilib package?
[09:38] <|ntegra|1> how can I "cat rec* NewFile"?
[09:39] <Buiss> khermans: Can u tell me where i should start? It goes to internet for documentation.. unfortunately
[09:39] <Piet> subsume: hmm, weird. i would have expected it to be installed there. what does "dpkg -l cron|grep cron" give you?
[09:39] <subsume> "E: Couldn't find package crontab"  <-- can someone please direct me back to Sanity Land? What the heck is up?
[09:39] <khermans> Jinxed553, see it found iostream.h now :-)
[09:40] <khermans> Jinxed553, you need to set the right namespace
[09:40] <|ntegra|1> oh, I got it
[09:40] <subsume> Piet: no package found
[09:40] <khermans> Jinxed553, add "using namespace std;" to your helloworld.cpp
[09:40] <KingKimi> Piet, thnx
[09:40] <subsume> Piet: wow. that was simple i guess
[09:40] <subsume> thanks........ i am in shock but thanks.......
[09:40] <khermans> Jinxed553, see the C++ example here -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hello_world_program
[09:41] <khermans> Jinxed553, you can also just add std::cout instead
[09:41] <khermans> Jinxed553, or std::endl
[09:41] <Piet> subsume: fixed already?
[09:41] <subsume> Piet: apt-get install cron
[09:41] <Piet> subsume: yup :)
[09:41] <Jinxed553> khermans: works now.. thanks
[09:41] <subsume> serious shocker
[09:42] <khermans> Jinxed553, ;-)
[09:42] <Leone> join/  #ubuntu.it
[09:42] <Piet> subsume: weird for a server installation, but maybe ubuntu has another way for it, i'm a debian user mostly.
[09:42] <Leone> join/ #ubuntu.it
[09:43] <khermans> buiss, man wireshark
[09:43] <lesshaste> I just installed adobe-flashplugin
[09:43] <lesshaste> on hardy but it doesn't show up in firefox
[09:43] <subsume> Piet: same. =)
[09:43] <lesshaste> is there something else I need to do to get it to work?
[09:43] <Piet> Leone: try this: /join #ubuntu.it
[09:43] <khermans> subsume, crontab -e is for normal users, not root, right?
[09:44] <Gamarok__> can anybdy direct me to some place where i can learn a littel more about the terminal command
[09:44] <subsume> khermans: not really relevant but in a sense, yes i guess....
[09:44] <Piet> lesshaste: have you restarted firefox?
[09:44] <lesshaste> Piet: yes
[09:44] <subsume> Gamarok__: which terminal command?
[09:44] <Gnea> khermans: crontab -e  assumes to edit whoever the current user's crontab that's calling the command
[09:44] <khermans> subsume, i think it is relevant since you used sudo :-)
[09:44] <subsume> khermans: not relevant to the problem as the command was simply not found
[09:44] <khermans> ah
[09:45] <khermans> subsume, i have crontab on my ubuntu servers
[09:45] <khermans> subsume, dont know why u dont have it
[09:45] <subsume> yeah, i dunno why either. I have Linode so maybe they had a weird install
[09:45] <Gamarok__> in general you know . i am pretty new to linux
[09:45] <khermans> subsume, yeah dude thats a custom install
[09:45] <Piet> lesshaste: see if it shows up in extra -> plugins
[09:45] <subsume> Gamarok__: no dice. hunt the commands down one by one. =)
[09:46] <lesshaste> Piet: how do I find "extras"?
[09:46] <Piet> lesshaste: it should be a main menu
[09:47] <Piet> lesshaste: alternatively enter this in location bar: about:plugins
[09:47] <Piet> Gamarok__: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/basic-commands/C/
[09:47] <MaxTesla> Hello I need help with my graphic drivers, when ever I install them and reboot i get a black screen I currently have Ubuntu 9.04 installing Ubuntu 8.04 also gives a black screen on instalation so I cant even install that
[09:48] <lesshaste> Piet: flash is not there
[09:48] <Piet> Gamarok__: that's just the primer, after that it's hunting down the man pages
[09:48] <lesshaste> Piet: it worked ok with flashplugin-nonfree  .. it's adobe-flashplugin that it can't find
[09:49] <openJSB> hi guys
[09:49] <openJSB> =)
[09:49] <MaxTesla> Hello I need help with my graphic drivers, when ever I install them and reboot i get a black screen I currently have Ubuntu 9.04 installing Ubuntu 8.04 also gives a black screen on installation so I cant even install that
[09:49] <Piet> lesshaste: so why don't you use flashplugin-nonfree?
[09:49] <lesshaste> Piet: it was version 9 and wasn't supporting some websites
[09:50] <lesshaste> Piet:  the adobe one is version 10
[09:50] <lesshaste> Piet: how do I list which files the package installed? So I can see what is going on
[09:50] <karen> im trying to upload a vidio on to one of my sites and it keeps saying page is interupted and reset ,why does this keep happening
[09:50] <Piet> lesshaste: install adobe-flashplugin again, this time on a terminal window, and see if something goes wrong.
[09:50] <lesshaste> Piet: done, no error
[09:50] <Piet> lesshaste: do this: aptitude update && aptitude purge adobe-flashplugin && aptitude install adobe-flashplugin
[09:51] <Blizzerand> Hello there I use Ubuntu and I already have kde on my system .But I would like to reinstall kde desktop environment for some personal reasons !Help please
[09:51] <MaxTesla> Hello I need help with my graphic drivers, when ever I install them and reboot i get a black screen I currently have Ubuntu 9.04 installing Ubuntu 8.04 also gives a black screen on installation so I cant even install that
[09:52] <Piet> Blizzerand: start synaptic, look for the kde package, right click the selection box and select "reinstall"
[09:52] <khermans> lesshaste, adobe-flashplugin is better -- but comes from the partner repository
[09:53] <lesshaste> khermans: how do I list the files it installs?
[09:53] <lesshaste> Piet: done.. no difference
[09:53] <Piet> Blizzerand: actually, this only works if you sill have synaptic installed
[09:53] <Piet> lesshaste: dpkg -L adobe-flashplugin
[09:53] <AlexTM> Hello!
[09:53] <AlexTM> I may have done something rather stupid, I dunno. Thought before I do anything else I better ask. I'm new to ubuntu, I installed it last week, and several days I couldn't use it because of hardware problems. So, complete Newbie to anything Linux. (No to computers itself.)
[09:53] <AlexTM> One of my old hard disks with W2K on them, which I wanted to keep and try to run in a Virtual Box, lost its partition table. I used testdisk to recover the data. Unfortunately, I coped all files into my home directory, which of course is a tad inconvenient. I couldn't move them, either, because they were owned by root. Great.
[09:53] <AlexTM> So what I did was to chown all files in my root directory from owner "root" to owner "me". I throught too late about the fact that on a unix system, there might be drawbacks to this. Are there? Did I condemn my system to a slow and painfull death? Or does it not matter much?
[09:53] <FloodBot2> AlexTM: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:54] <AlexTM> Ops ...
[09:54] <Blizzerand> Piet :Can't I just use the terminal
[09:54] <MaxTesla> Hello I need help with my graphic drivers, when ever I install them and reboot i get a black screen I currently have Ubuntu 9.04 installing Ubuntu 8.04 also gives a black screen on installation so I cant even install that
[09:54] <lesshaste> Piet: http://pastebin.ca/1423498  maybe it just needs a symlink?
[09:54] <linduxed> i subscribed to a bugmail on launchpad, but now i dont want to get the mail anymore
[09:54] <Piet> Blizzerand: sure you can. just to understand correctly, you want to reinstall all kde packages since you think something is wrong with them?
[09:55] <linduxed> but launchpad is a mess to find subscriptions in
[09:55] <AlexTM> Could you read what I wrote or was that eaten before it went out to you?
[09:55] <linduxed> totally cant find it
[09:55] <khermans> AlexTM, would sudo aptitude reinstall ~i work ?
[09:55] <MaxTesla> Ineed help with installing ATI graphic drivers for Ubuntu 9.04
[09:55] <Blizzerand> Piet : All pakages >> Yes
[09:55] <_fb> is there a good hack to 'log' a tty session?  i am aware of script, ttyrec, etc.  what i want is a text file of a large amount of stuff that scrolls on my terminal in an openssl session.  i guess i could set a large buffer in my terminal app and save that.  but is there a more elegant way?
[09:55] <MaxTesla> I need help with installing ATI graphic drivers for Ubuntu 9.04 everything I install gives me a black screen after reboot
[09:55] <AlexTM> khermans: I have not tried anything new, just kept everything open
[09:56] <lesshaste> Piet: I think there should be a link in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins for it to work
[09:56] <linduxed> and when i do find some subscription, it only lists subscriptions that are about individual bugs, ive subscribed to a package
[09:56] <khermans> MaxTesla, sudo jockey-gtk
[09:56] <MaxTesla> khermans will that do they trick?
[09:56] <Piet> Blizzerand: yes, possibly. have a look in your profile directory, there should be 'plugins' directory containing a symlink to the libflashplayer.so in there.
[09:56] <asfjio> khermans: can i ask you another question. what should i install to play mov and mp4 files. i've searched for installing mplayerplug-in, but i got stuck
[09:56] <AlexTM> khermans: What would the command do?
[09:56] <khermans> MaxTesla, it will present you the options
[09:57] <MaxTesla> khermans will type it in now
[09:57] <khermans> AlexTM, reinstall all installed packages
[09:57] <theeclipse> Hi all, does anyone know a video screen capture application ?
[09:57] <Piet> lesshaste: /usr/lib/firefox/plugins would probably work, too, just system wide.
[09:57] <khermans> AlexTM, might reset your permissions correctly for all files
[09:57] <khermans> AlexTM, it wont do any harm
[09:57] <khermans> theeclipse, vnc2swf
[09:57] <ceekays> Hello Ubuntuees!
[09:58] <AlexTM> I will try that then as soon as there is the slightest hint of troubles.
[09:58] <khermans> theeclipse, or xvidcap i think or xscreencap
[09:58] <theeclipse> khermans: Thanks a lot..
[09:58] <MaxTesla> khermans that can also be acomplished by clicking system adminstrator hardware ANYWAY it only displays a modem card not my graphic card
[09:59] <khermans> MaxTesla, then ubuntu did not detect your card
[09:59] <Piet> _fb: what's an openssl session?
[09:59] <ceekays> I've installed Windows XP in Virtual Box and I cannot access flash drives. How do I get out of this mess?
[09:59] <MaxTesla> khermans then how do i get it to detect my card and then install the proper installation files
[09:59] <khermans> MaxTesla, this is jaunty/
[09:59] <khermans> ?
[09:59] <linduxed> i subscribed to a bugmail on launchpad, but now i dont want to get the mail anymore, but launchpad is a mess to find subscriptions in
[09:59] <linduxed> totally cant find it... and when i do find some subscription, it only lists subscriptions that are about individual bugs, ive subscribed to a package
[09:59] <slyder> so i'm trying to install ubuntu i put the disc in and tell it to install the ubuntu loading screen comes up for a bit and then it dumps me into busybox, can someone help me?
[10:00] <MaxTesla> khermans i tried to install ubuntu 8.04 but then i just get black screen at installation should is earch for an even earlier version than 8.04 which version should i install
[10:00] <devs> hi
[10:00] <khermans> linduxed, just click the link at the bottom of the email and unsubscribe
[10:00] <lesshaste> Piet: total failure .. this is weird
[10:00] <lesshaste> khermans: how did you get it to work?
[10:00] <ceekays> I've installed Windows XP in Virtual Box and I cannot access flash drives. How do I get out of this mess?
[10:00] <devs> i have ubuntu with 2 NIC
[10:00] <khermans> MaxTesla, use 9.04 if you can
[10:00] <khermans> MaxTesla, i presume it is a new ATI card you need a driver for
[10:00] <linduxed> khermans: there is no such link
[10:00] <devs> and i want all LAN users to get access to a proxy server
[10:00] <Piet> theeclipse: also istanbul
[10:00] <devs> how can i configure ?
[10:01] <dr4g> Is there any way i can change the password for a user account without knowing its pass. I was root and done 'su <user>' then 'passwd' and it's asking me for the user account's password, which i don't know.
[10:01] <MaxTesla> khermans I am using Ubuntu 9.04 how do i install grapic card drivers to this without going to black screen at reboot I have ATI Mobility Radeon X2300 HD it is a laptop
[10:01] <theeclipse> Piet: Thanks man..
[10:01] <vinilios> any idea if it is possible to install flash 9 or 10 debug 32bit version (64bit doesn't exist yet) on 64 bit (jaunty) ??
[10:01] <Piet> lesshaste: see if there's a README in /usr/share/doc/adobe-flashplugin
[10:01] <khermans> linduxed, there is a link to the bug, click that link, then go to the right and see subscribers and unsubscribe
[10:02] <Piet> lesshaste: also check if there's a symlink for flash in /etc/alternatives
[10:02] <MaxTesla> Khermans on the sticker it on the physical computer it says Mobility Radeon HD2300 in windows it said Mobility Radeon X2300 HD
[10:02] <linduxed> khermans: which ive tried, its not there either
[10:02] <khermans> dr4g, sudo passwd user
[10:02] <linduxed> khermans: but i found a solution
[10:02] <dr4g> khermans thankyou i will test
[10:03] <khermans> MaxTesla, unless you really care about old ub, why not ubuntu, why not use the latest? ;-)
[10:03] <linduxed> khermans: it says in the mail, "you got this mail because you subscribe to XXXX" so i searched for XXXX and then pressed subscribe, and unchecked the box
[10:03] <AlexTM> khermans: At least reinstalling a package via synaptic does not cause any problems. Will try that with something bigger now.
[10:03] <evesion> hello all
[10:03] <MaxTesla> khermans i will use any linux version that works with my grapphic card, can you help me to get it to work
[10:03] <linduxed> khermans: assbackward as few things launchpad is
[10:03] <blob_> hey, anyone familiar with how to build shared libraries and use them?
[10:03] <slyder> i'm trying to install ubuntu 9.04 on another desktop and when i boot into it and try the live version and also to install it just takes me to the ubuntu loading screen for awhile and then puts me into busy box and won't go any further, how can i continue and install ubuntu?
[10:04] <Kingsy101> can someone tell me how to create a zip in ubuntu ?
[10:04] <lesshaste> Piet: there are lots http://pastebin.ca/1423499
[10:04] <Piet> vinilios: look into the linux32 wrapper application. i cannot guide you further through this, though, try to find a how.to.
[10:04] <Kingsy101> the add to archive button just creates tar files
[10:04] <khermans> linduxed, it also might be a bug "duplicate" email
[10:05] <evesion> I need some help with getting my sound running, I have a HP Pavilion dv-7 2040 notebook with a 3D Sound Blaster Pro compatibel 16-bits integrated card and the sound is not working
[10:05] <Lint01> Kingsy101, there should be format selection option
[10:05] <khermans> Kingsy101, man zip or use the gui
[10:05] <devs> hi
[10:05] <Piet> lesshaste: sudo update-alternatives --config firefox-flashplugin
[10:06] <Kingsy101> thanks
[10:06] <xrfang> hello, how do I REMOVE encrypted swap? thanks!
[10:06] <blob_> I have several .c and .h files. What I would like to do: make a shared library (say libmylib.so.1) and then reuse it in another program (say example.c)
[10:07] <lesshaste> Piet: ok so I see http://pastebin.ca/1423500
[10:07] <Piet> xrfang: what do you want to have instead? no swap at all or unencrypted swap?
[10:07] <khermans> gcc --shared ?
[10:07] <Gnea> xrfang: where is it being activated from?
[10:07] <khermans> blob_, gcc -shared
[10:07] <xrfang> Piet: unencrypted swap
[10:07] <xrfang> Gnea: ecrypt-setup-swap
[10:08] <vinilios> Piet, thanks
[10:08] <Gnea> xrfang: hrm, I mean, what file? /etc/fstab?
[10:08] <xrfang> I did that but found that it might have to do with some peculiarities
[10:08] <xrfang> Gnea: that command did it all, I didn't mannually do it
[10:08] <Piet> lesshaste: ok, that can have solved it already
[10:08] <MaxTesla> khermans i will try something now might vanish for some time, thanks for your advice
[10:08] <hacktolive> what does "don't use Enter as punctuation" mean? I can figure it out... ?
[10:08] <blob_> khermans: tried gcc -pedantic -gdwarf-2 -shared -Wl,-soname lib_ipv6.so.1 -o lib_ipv6.so.1.0 [.o files]
[10:08] <Gnea> xrfang: well, I've never done it, but usually, swap is setup at boottime through fstab
[10:09] <blob_> it's not complaining
[10:09] <khermans> blob_, better question for ##c
[10:09] <blob_> ok
[10:09] <xrfang> after using that stuff, I found that my boot splash will not work i.e. the "quiet" param does not work, also, ubuntu always tell me that I am on battery and cannot do fs check, even I am *not* on battery
[10:09] <blob_> thanks
[10:09] <Piet> lesshaste: see where the link points to: sudo ls -la /etc/alternatives/firefox-javaplugin.so
[10:10] <SteveHill> I have Jaunty, but starting with Intrepid the volume control (physical buttons) stopped working.  What I have to do is use the volume Applet.  Any troubleshooting ideas about getting the hardware to work properly?
[10:10] <rj_> hi, i am new in the IRC thing. has a wubi of 810 on my system. Just wondering if there are different rooms or is this the ONE? If i were to want help on some thing. Do I come here and ask?
[10:10] <lesshaste> Piet: did you mean that? That's java
[10:10] <SteveHill> Sorry,I'm running HP DC6000 laptop.
[10:10] <Piet> hacktolive: it means: please do not press enter in the middle of a sentence. finish what you want to say, only press enter then.
[10:10] <Piet> lesshaste: oh, the same for flash then, sorry :)
[10:10] <blob_> just to give the complete story: then I tried gcc -o example example.c libmylib.so. No warning. But when I run example, doesn't find the lib (which is in the same directory)
[10:11] <xrfang> Gnea: do you know how to manually setup swap? I found something that may help in remove encrypted swap, but then I will need to enable swap again...
[10:11] <evesion> I need some help with getting my sound running, I have a HP Pavilion dv-7 2040 notebook with a 3D Sound Blaster Pro compatibel 16-bits integrated card and the sound is not working
[10:11] <Gnea> rj_: yeah, generally this is the best starting point - if the help you need is found elsewhere, we can help direct you there, if need be - go ahead and ask your question
[10:11] <hacktolive> Piet: I see now... thanks, it makes sense.
[10:11] <lesshaste> Piet: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 44 2009-05-15 10:06 /etc/alternatives/firefox-flashplugin -> /usr/lib/adobe-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so
[10:11] <Gnea> !swap | xrfang
[10:12] <xrfang> tks Gnea
[10:12] <rj_> its 2 am here.. i am up because i cant sleep.. not sure if the FIX i need is easy to do or not. but wanted to explore this place to see how it works first.
[10:12] <marin> Yo Yo Yo Wassup mi niggas, I got this 8.04 Obonto, and I tried to install adobe flash player my nigga, do you get me? And now even though I installed flash player, Firefox is still tellin' me it ain't installed, can yo help me bro, please bro?
[10:12] <Piet> lesshaste: was that the one included in the adobe-flashplugin package?
[10:12] <lesshaste> Piet: I think so.. it's all a mystery to me
[10:13] <lesshaste> Piet: http://pastebin.ca/1423498
[10:13] <rj_> I did the download upgrade to version 904 jaunty or what ever.. and my system sounds do not work now. I can get CD's to play.. finally and i can listen to things in flash or video. BUT no system sounds GNEA
[10:13] <Gnea> marin: this is an irc channel, not the street, so please, it would very much help if you would speak in a tone that did not denote a lack of intelligence.  sure, we can help.
[10:13] <Piet> lesshaste: yes, this matches. see if you have access to that file: ls -la /usr/lib/adobe-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so
[10:14] <lesshaste> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 10089232 2009-02-24 19:17 /usr/lib/adobe-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so
[10:14] <Gnea> marin: what method did you use to install the flash player?
[10:14] <hacktolive> marin: re-start firefox
[10:14] <marin> I followed the link at speedtest.net it was leading to adobe page
[10:14] <Piet> lesshaste: next tie you start firefox, start it from a terminal window, since that may shot you error messages you don't normally get to see
[10:14] <marin> I did
[10:14] <yaris123456789> hello guys i am getting "mkdir: cannot create Too many links" how to fix ?
[10:14] <marin> I restarted firefox
[10:14] <Piet> lesshaste: ok, permissions are fine
[10:14] <marin> And I choosed ubuntu .deb installation Gnea
[10:15] <marin> It insatlled fine, and tehn when I opened Firefox, gone to speedtest.net I get same message, so I reisntalled flash player once again,without success
[10:15] <Kingsy101> if I have a zip on a server, say its called stuff.. ssh to that server and say unzip stuff.zip will it automatically replace everything ?
[10:15] <lesshaste> Piet: http://pastebin.ca/1423504
[10:16] <Gnea> marin: okay, it sounds like you installed it via the website, and that can complicate and break things... there is, however, another way that you can use to install it and make it work, but you'll need to remove the current installation of flash
[10:16] <rj_> Gnea you look mighty busy now.. maybe I can ask that some other time? though i can see.. if I really needed help.. this looks like the place i should come..
[10:16] <marin> Gnea, okay my sis, just tell me how
[10:16] <naught101> where would be the best place to ask for help on firewire stuff?
[10:16] <Gnea> rj_: just ask - if i can't help, i can't, but maybe someone else can - there are over 1,000 people monitoring this channel
[10:17] <Gnea> marin: 'sis'?
[10:17] <naught101> I can't get my miniDV camera working since upgrading from hardy to jaunty
[10:17] <rj_> my question is above.
[10:17] <Piet> lesshaste: i see no error there. i think i don't know any further from here. see if you can find something on an internet search engine or the ubuntu forums...
[10:17] <marin> Gnea, you know, da sister
[10:17] <lesshaste> Piet: ok thanks.. it's a mystery to me.. shame there isn't more logging info you can see
[10:17] <Gnea> marin: I'm a guy.
[10:17] <Piet> less or ask again here summing up what we did so far, so others can try
[10:17] <marin> okay, sorry, I though your female :p
[10:17] <marin> Gnea sounds like girl :p
[10:17] <Gnea> it's not polite to judge based on a book cover.
[10:18] <wwig> hello, someone could help me with a corrupted filesystem please?
[10:18] <Gnea> marin: please see my earlier comment about street talk :)
[10:18] <marin> Okay, sorry, can you please tell me how to unintsall adobe version of flash
[10:18] <Gnea> rj_: pulseaudio may not be setup correctly
[10:18] <Gnea> !pulseaudio | rj_
[10:19] <Gnea> rj_: please keep it to the channel
[10:19] <maxagaz> do you know a system to broadcast two different videos on two screens from one server ?
[10:20] <Gnea> marin: could you please tell us what URL you downloaded it from, exactly?
[10:20] <marin> http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_10_linux.deb
[10:20] <marin> It says same version is already installed in Package Installer
[10:20] <Gnea> okay, did you save that to your desktop?
[10:21] <lesshaste> can someone remind me how to find which package owns a particular file?
[10:21] <devs> hi
[10:21] <Gnea> lesshaste: dpkg -S /path/to/the/file
[10:21] <devs> how can i direct all trafffic from LAN to an external proxy
[10:21] <devs> is there any guide
[10:21] <devs> i have used squid
[10:21] <Piet> lesshaste: apt-file
[10:21] <rj_> Ok.. sorry about that Gnea. < pronouced GEE AH? or KNEE AH??> Its a NO SYSTEM sounds issue.. any one want to try and help me out?
[10:22] <systat> Gnea, have you found solution, I gave you link
[10:22] <Gnea> rj_: 'knee-ah'
[10:22] <juliostnk> #geoserver
[10:22] <naught101> !firewire
[10:22] <lesshaste> thanks!
[10:22] <naught101> !ieee1394
[10:22] <juliostnk> hello
[10:22] <rj_> Thanks Sir. My issue is this.. after i did the upgrade to Jaunty.. which TOOK ALL DAY LONG.. sorry.. i have no system sounds.. any one have ideas on how to restore that?
[10:22] <juliostnk> I am in geoserver channel?
[10:23] <Gnea> !sound | rj_ (your best bet is to start by following these troubleshooting guides, and if they don't work, come back and tell us what went wrong)
[10:23] <simoncpu> !games
[10:23] <Piet> devs: http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/TransparentProxy.html
[10:23] <simoncpu> whoa...
[10:23] <simoncpu> !commands
[10:23] <hacktolive> marin: try "sudo apt-get remove adobe-flashplugin" on a terminal, and after that type "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree" (this will remove that version of flash and install the one from the official repositories)
[10:23] <Piet> juliostnk: no you'Re in #ubuntu
[10:24] <rj_> ubottu.. i have used all the Helps i know how to.. 4 different pages.. and so far.. i have now flash sounds.. CD plays.. video plays with sound.. but NO system sounds.
[10:24] <Gnea> systat: sorry, didn't see my nick highlighted in the traffic above
[10:24] <juliostnk> #geoserver
[10:24] <simoncpu> Your edit request has been forwarded to #ubuntu-ops.  Thank you for your attention to detail
[10:24] <Piet> juliostnk:tyoe this instead: /join #geoserver
[10:24] <simoncpu> omfg
[10:24] <juliostnk> ok, tnks
[10:24] <juliostnk> join #geoserver
[10:24] <Gnea> juliostnk: /join #geoserver
[10:24] <Piet> juliostnk: don't miss the / in the beginning
[10:25] <juliostnk> sorry
[10:25] <mintux> i have ubuntu 8.10 my linux didn't boot and i got some error . now im in live cd and try to mount and i got   http://pastebin.com/m69a1e845   in syslog is http://pastebin.com/m5d6704c4 and in dmesg is  http://pastebin.com/m3d69dc19 it's a screenshot of gparted http://tinypic.info/files/uz78xo5jmn5lg103uxen.png /dev/sda7 is my root that can not mount
[10:26] <systat> So, Gnea, can you tell e?
[10:26] <Gnea> rj_: did you try System->Settings->Sounds and then tested the different outputs?
[10:26] <Gnea> systat: sorry, haven't found the website
[10:26] <systat> Gnea, you can't find this? http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_10_linux.deb
[10:27] <Gnea> systat: oh, didn't notice that you'd changed nicks
[10:27] <mosluce_> Hello !!!
[10:27] <Gnea> systat: so, did you save it to your desktop?
[10:27] <mosluce_> I have some problem
[10:28] <mosluce_> about suPHP
[10:28] <Gnea> !ask | mosluce_
[10:28] <simmerz> hi. is jaunty netbook remix supposed to install as lpia or i686?
[10:28] <systat> Nope
[10:28] <dayo> Piet: it was for future reference. for the next install, as it were. :-)
[10:28] <systat> I just opened it with Package Installer Gnea
[10:28] <adam____> hey, how do i extract_ .tar.xz files_
[10:29] <adam____> ?
[10:29] <Gnea> systat: then you need to open a terminal and:  dpkg -l | grep ^ii | grep flash   and see what packagename it installed it as
[10:29] <Gnea> adam____: tar xvf file.tar.gz
[10:29] <dayo> adam____: tar xvzf file.tar.gz
[10:30] <Gnea> dayo: 'z' is no longer required
[10:30] <adam____> Gnea, dayo: .tar.xz
[10:30] <SteveHill> Adam: type "tar xvfz file.tgz"
[10:30] <dayo> Gnea: really?
[10:30] <mosluce_> I  install libapache2-mod-suphp  ,  but It's not working  .   Any Site  or  Doc could I  read?
[10:30] <systat> Gnea, here it is ii  adobe-flashplugin                          10.0.22.87-1                       Adobe Flash Player plugin version 10
[10:30] <Gnea> dayo: try it.
[10:30] <Piet> dayo: what exactly?
[10:30] <grawity> adam____: You're sure it's .xz? Not .gz or .bz2?
[10:30] <Gnea> systat: nice.  now:  sudo apt-get remove adobe-flashplugin
[10:30] <adam____> grawity: yes
[10:30] <dayo> Piet: 21:25:09 #ubuntu: < Piet> dayo: so you're suggesting ehs should use lvm2 or mdadm. true, he could do this, but this doesn't make  it much easier, since he (?) wants to grow an existing partition
[10:30] <Gnea> adam____: what's the whole filename?
[10:31] <dayo> Piet: your post from last nite. just saw it :P
[10:31] <grawity> adam____: And what does 'file blahblah.tar.xz' say?
[10:31] <Piet> dayo: oh, you have a looong backlog
[10:31] <kompi07> jjmjjmjmj
[10:31] <systat> Okay, Gnea, package removed
[10:31] <Da[D]an> hi all people
[10:31] <dayo> Piet: i have a hilight window, split screened into my irssi :-)
[10:31] <Piet> mintux: your file system's journal is somehow missing.
[10:31] <kompi07> hi all
[10:31] <dyiz> ..
[10:31] <Gnea> !flash | systat (good, now please visit this site and follow the directions there)
[10:32] <simmerz> why can't i get UNR as an lpia image?!
[10:32] <Piet> mintux: i guess the last gparted operating did not exit cleanly?
[10:32] <adam____> grawity, Gnea: exherbo-x86-current.tar.xz
[10:32] <dayo> adam____: try renaming it, maybe. never heard of .xz    mv file.tar.xz file.tar.gz    and then tar xvf file.tar.gz
[10:32] <Piet> dayo: quite useful
[10:32] <grawity> adam____: Try using the "file" command on that archive.
[10:32] <mintux> Piet  i think .. im not sure i do a fsck on /dev/sda7 and i got http://pastebin.com/m5e50de9d
[10:33] <adam____> grawity: it says it is data
[10:33] <adam____> dayo, ok
[10:33] <lesshaste> Piet: well I found the answer!
[10:33] <systat> Gnea, there are instructions about each version except the one I have 8.04 :(
[10:33] <Da[D]an> asd
[10:33] <Da[D]an> f
[10:33] <Da[D]an> asd
[10:33] <Da[D]an> fasd
[10:33] <Da[D]an> fas
[10:33] <Da[D]an> df
[10:33] <FloodBot2> Da[D]an: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:33] <Gnea> systat: they'll work
[10:33] <Piet> mintux: you are using linux mint, not ubuntu
[10:34] <Gnea> systat: try the instructions for 8.10
[10:34] <adam____> dayo, it says it does not look like a tar archive
[10:34] <mintux> Piet mint is ubuntu
[10:34] <Gnea> adam____: did you get it from http://www.exherbo.org/?
[10:34] <adam____> yup
[10:34] <Piet> lesshaste: tell me
[10:34] <lesshaste> Piet: and it's really annoying :)
[10:34] <adam____> trying to run it in virtualbox
[10:34] <sebmck> Hi, I dont know if this is the right place or not but im running ubuntu jaunty and i was wondering gparted wont let me resize my ubuntu file system partition ive booted into the gparted live cd does the same thing
[10:35] <dayo> adam____: odd stuff
[10:35] <lesshaste> Piet: it seems that if you have gnash installed firefox just silently ignores adobe flash
[10:35] <DaZ> sebmck: xfs or jfs?
[10:35] <lesshaste> Piet: if you remove gnash before installing flash it works
[10:35] <Gnea> adam____: okay, we don't support that distribution, but if you read the website here: http://www.exherbo.org/gettingstarted.html  it tells you what you need to have to make it work
[10:35] <DaveIngram> hi all... I'm ssh'ed into a server that has 100% of the root partition full... what can I look at to try to clean up some space?
[10:35] <sebmck> DaZ: sorry? the file system i dont know what you mean
[10:35] <Piet> mintux: no it's not, it's a seperate distro.
[10:35] <adam____> Gnea: ok, thanks guys
[10:36] <DaZ> yes, what type is the filesystem
[10:36] <lesshaste> Piet: it;s really quite annoying
[10:36] <sebmck> ext3
[10:36] <Piet> lesshaste: i see, hmm, okay, that would explain it.
[10:36] <Boohbah> DaveIngram: du -h --max-depth=1 /
[10:36] <DaZ> sebmck: it's unmounted?
[10:36] <SteveHill> DaveIngram: I;d start by cleaning up /tmp
[10:36] <sebmck> DaZ: Yes im running the GParted Live CD
[10:37] <sebmck> DaZ: i can downsize it but not enlarge
[10:37] <mintux> Piet mint is fork of ubuntu .. that i think it chanages some thing like bacground add some multi media codecs . but if you can't help me you are free . not need to say something like it
[10:37] <Piet> mintux: anyway, in addition to your journal missing, your superblock is corrupt. this can be restored since there areother copies of the superblock on the file system, but please look this up on your own
[10:38] <DaZ> i don't know :x
[10:38] <DaveIngram> Boohbah: SteveHill: Thanks.. checking now. I suspect it's my mysql database that's filled up that drive... how would I go about taking some of the space off of another partition and giving it to the root partition?
[10:38] <systat> Gnea, I get this Package adobe-flashplugin is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[10:38] <systat> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[10:38] <systat> is only available from another source
[10:38] <systat> E: Package adobe-flashplugin has no installation candidate
[10:38] <FloodBot2> systat: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:38] <Boohbah> DaveIngram: parted
[10:38] <sebmck> hmmm
[10:38] <Piet> mintux: yes, it's a different distribution, that's what i just said.
[10:38] <lesshaste> Piet: apparently it's a bug fixed in jaunty
[10:39] <Piet> lesshaste: ah, good to know
[10:39] <dayo> adam____: i find this on .xz http://linuxgazette.net/162/lindholm.html
[10:39] <lesshaste> Piet: which they won't fix :)  LTS doesn't quite mean what you might think
[10:39] <dayo> adam____: looks like u need the xz tool to unpack .xz archives. figures.
[10:39] <SteveHill> DaveIngram: What I think you are asking is how to change the size of the root partition; for that use fdisk or gparted.
[10:39] <sebmck> anyway if that doesnt work ill just reinstall ubuntu, but does anyone know how to basically backup all of my downloaded programs for conversion to put into another ubuntu installation?
[10:39] <dayo> adam____: first time i've heard of this extension, i tell u
[10:39] <Piet> lesshaste: can you tell systat which repository to activate to get the adobe-flashplugin? is it medibuntu?
[10:40] <Gnea> systat: okay, let's try something different then - could you please pastebin the output of this command:  apt-cache search flash
[10:40] <SteveHill> I have sometimes gotten away for a short time, by making a hard link to another partition.
[10:40] <systat> ? I have Ubuntu
[10:40] <Gnea> !pastebin
[10:40] <DaveIngram> SteveHill: Boohbah: Great, thanks guys! (I'm a PHP guy trying to play SysAdmin... that can never be good... thanks for your help)
[10:40] <sebmck> i see no one can help me
[10:40] <adam____> dayo: hm.. i just found http://tukaani.org/xz/ .. *sigh* what's wrong with normal file formats? :/
[10:41] <Gnea> !backup | sebmck
[10:41] <Gnea> !patience | sebmck
[10:41] <dayo> adam____: beats the hell out of me. i like .tar, .tar.gz, .rar and .zip just fine
[10:41] <systat> Here you Go Gnea http://paste.ubuntu.com/172885/
[10:41] <grawity> dayo: .rar? that's...not...OPEN!
[10:41]  * dayo cowers :-(
[10:41] <dayo> lol
[10:41] <Gnea> grawity: .rar works just fine in ubuntu
[10:42] <dayo> grawity: well, at least it's FAMILIAR! lol
[10:42] <grawity> Gnea: But it's a closed format. ZIP is at least kind-of open.
[10:42] <SteveHill> sebmck: there is a package called aptoncd that will burn the applications that you have added onto a cd for later installation.
[10:42]  * grawity likes .zip
[10:42] <DaZ> zip sucks <:
[10:42] <Severity1> tar it
[10:42] <sebmck> SteveHill: Okay thanks, and thanks everyone else for there help
[10:42] <Gnea> grawity: this is Ubuntu, not Debian. ;)
[10:42] <DaveIngram> how can I tell what partition my mysql database is on?
[10:42] <adam____> dayo, i like anything i can extract without having to download some odd rare software and then compile by hand.. x(
[10:42] <grawity> Gnea: So
[10:42] <Gnea> grawity: so get over it :p
[10:43] <JEEB> lzma (used in 7zip) is pretty good compression-wise
[10:43] <Gnea> systat: okay, try this now:  sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[10:43] <grawity> bzip2 too, I heard. (.tar.bz2 is popular)
[10:43] <adam____> the firefox logo is copyright, what are you going to do about that grawity? ;)
[10:43] <dayo> adam____: yeah, i know what u mean. i wish i had more time to create packages for some of these things. like koha, for example. but that's a huge project. all that damn CPAN. *shudder*
[10:44] <Piet> DaveIngram: df /var/lib/mysql*
[10:44] <grawity> adam____: But it's usually in .png which is open. The contents are irrelevant at the moment.
[10:44] <Gnea> dayo: CPAN is almost its own distribution
[10:44] <grawity> Okay, enough offtopic.
[10:44] <DaveIngram> Piet: oh yeah, 100% use.. ouch..
[10:44] <dayo> Gnea: yeah
[10:45] <DaveIngram> dev server is down :/
[10:45] <dayo> back to work. later, people
[10:45] <Piet> DaveIngram: oops, not good for a database
[10:45] <adam____> grawity: the actual logo is copyrighted by the mozilla foundation
[10:45] <Severity1> DaveIngram, try doing a "locate mysql" on terminal
[10:46] <{g}> Whats the preferred way to install flash for firefox these days?
[10:46] <adam____> dayo: i don't think most distros have that package in their repos by default..
[10:46] <Severity1> sudo it
[10:46] <DaZ> {g}: apt-get?
[10:46] <SteveHill> DaveIngram: Prolly in /var/lib/mysql/....
[10:47] <{g}> DaZ: apt-get install flash?
[10:47] <DaveIngram> Severity1: long list
[10:47] <devs> how to set up transparent proxy server
[10:47] <|ntegra|1> noway, the get.adobe.com tgz
[10:47] <DaZ> flashplugin <:
[10:47] <DaveIngram> SteveHill: yeah, there's a bunch under that
[10:47] <DaZ> or something..
[10:47] <|ntegra|1> I tried all the other ways
[10:47] <yaris123456789> how do i escape "/" ? i tried \/ but didn't work
[10:47] <{g}> "apropos flash" gives me only fimware flash utilities
[10:48] <DaveIngram> What are the actual mysql files called?
[10:48] <|ntegra|1> pain in the butt cleaning up botched installed files
[10:48] <Piet> devs: you don't like the manual we pointed you to twice by now?
[10:48] <{g}> oh, its apt-cache search, not apropos
[10:48] <Lint01> yaris123456789, what about quotes?
[10:48] <yaris123456789> without quotes
[10:48] <|ntegra|1> linuxisusing.blogspot.com just about all I know lol
[10:48] <yaris123456789> nano "www/asdf.txt" i want that literally....i dont want it in www folder
[10:48] <SteveHill> Severity1: does updatedb run out of the box, or must it run before you use locate?
[10:49] <Piet> yaris123456789: backslash is exactly correct then
[10:49] <Gnea> systat: any luck?
[10:50] <hjb> Hi. I have a 32-bit instal CD only, but a Core Duo 54bit CPU
[10:50] <hjb> Can i install from the cd and upgrade to 64bit later?
[10:50] <Piet> yaris123456789: but that's not going to work. a slash in a path is a reference to a subdirectory. always.
[10:50] <hjb> 64bit
[10:50] <systat> Yeah, it works now, thanks
[10:50] <hjb> doh
[10:52] <Piet> hjb: no you cannot. download the 64bit one now if you want it
[10:52] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[10:53] <Piet> 1... 2... 3...
[10:55] <czert> hi
[10:55] <Piet> i guess zahn.freenode.net is pulling teeth
[10:55] <czert> i need help with dvb-t by w-scan
[10:56] <Piet> hello czert
[10:56] <Piet> what exactly?
[10:56] <klaus1> ragazze?
[10:56] <czert> how can i start search??
[10:57] <Piet> czert: you must specify the -f and -A options and their each parameters
[10:57] <Piet> czert, see w_scan --help
[10:58] <Severity1> you can use locate
[10:59] <Piet> czert: there are many examples here: http://edafe.org/vdr/w_scan/
[10:59] <czert> aha...thanks. I wrote w-scan,but it must be write w_scan
[10:59] <systat> Hey, why when I scroll in Firefox, it seems like it is lagging, If I scroll fast, then few seconds after I stop it will still continue to scroll up, down, Gnea?
[10:59] <czert> :)
[10:59] <Severity1> DaveIngram: yeah but check the paths path it's located, shud give you an idea
[10:59] <Piet> czert: yes, that's tricky, i always fall for that one, too
[10:59] <yaris123456789> Piet: well basically i run wget -r, and i end up with thousands of subdir.
[10:59] <Severity1> SteveHill: you can use locate
[11:00] <roxahris> Hey, I have a Casio CTK-5000 keyboard, and I was wondering how I could use in Ubuntu as a MIDI keyboard and as a MIDI player and so forth
[11:00] <Piet> heh, i guess those servers are totally out of sync by now
[11:00] <roxahris> It uses USB-MIDI...
[11:01] <yuri20> jaki jest posli kanał irc ?
[11:01] <Piet> !en > yuri20
[11:01] <yuri20> jakiś bot powinien mi odpisać z tego co pamiętam
[11:01] <yuri20> Ja chce polski kanał irc
[11:02] <Piet> roxahris: all that i know is that timidity can be used to playback, and i think also edit, midi
[11:02] <yuri20> What's name is Polish channel irc ?
[11:03] <Piet> yuri20: if you're looking for the polish ubuntu channel (and I am not sure that exists), then it's #ubuntu.pl
[11:03] <th0r> !pl
[11:03] <Piet> it _does_ exist
[11:03] <codeshepherd> when i try apt-get update .. it tries to  connect to a proxy .. though i am not behind a proxy.. how do i disable proxy ? ... the error is Connecting to 192.168.1.111:80... failed: Connection timed out.
[11:03] <karen> the connect server was reset while trying to upload ? what can i do
[11:03] <Piet> thanks th0r
[11:04] <yuri20> Piet thank you
[11:04] <Piet> hadn't expected the would be a polish version
[11:04] <bluegoon> Hi guys, where is the location of the Thunderbird profiles directory in ubuntu?
[11:04] <karen> ?/???/?
[11:05] <czert> last question...How can I get a name of my dvb-t source??
[11:05] <Piet> codeshepherd: find out where the proxy is defined first: rgrep '192.168.1.111:80' /etc/
[11:05] <Severity1> bluegoon "locate thunderbird"
[11:06] <codeshepherd> thanks Piet
[11:06] <bluegoon> thanks
[11:06] <Severity1> bluegoon: "locate thunderbird"
[11:06] <Piet> codeshepherd: then do this: export http_proxy=
[11:06] <Severity1> bluegoon: type that in the terminal
[11:06] <czert> it's ok..I found it
[11:06] <Piet> bluegoon: should be ~/.mozilla-thunderbird
[11:06] <codeshepherd> Piet:  rgrep returns nothing...  i am not behind a proxy.. so i just export http_proxy="" >
[11:06] <bluegoon> got it, get a long list of stuff, which file is the thunderbird profile?
[11:06] <bluegoon> Piet: lol, dankie
[11:06] <codeshepherd> export http_proxy=""  ?
[11:07] <Piet> codeshepherd: yes
[11:07] <codeshepherd> thanks Piet
[11:07] <Piet> bluegoon: the profile is a directory and subdirectories
[11:08] <Piet> bluegoon: every directory below ~/.mozilla-thunderbird/ is a profile normally
[11:09] <Igneous> Hello everyone, I'm having a strange problem as of recently.. whenever I type apt-get to install something, it returns "bash: apt-get: command not found"
[11:09] <Piet> codeshepherd: the proxy can also be set in your personal configuration files, so also run this: rgrep '192.168.1.111:80' .*
[11:09] <codeshepherd> ok Piet
[11:10] <Piet> codeshepherd: actually this: rgrep '192.168.1.111:80' ~/.*
[11:10] <bluegoon> ok
[11:10] <bluegoon> is there a tutorial on how to migrate Thunderbird somewhere on the net?
[11:10] <Piet> Igneous: oops, not good, you have apparently removed a required package
[11:10] <bluegoon> I dont seem to find any luck
[11:11] <Igneous> Piet: is there any way to reinstall that package?
[11:11] <Piet> Igneous: yes, if you still have dpkg
[11:11] <Igneous> I don't really recall uninstalling anything recently
[11:11] <Severity1> bluegoon: i don't know anything about migrating thunderbird profiles
[11:11] <Igneous> "bash: dpkg: command not found"
[11:11] <Igneous> :(
[11:11] <Piet> Igneous: let's irst check if it's really gone.run this: dpkg -l apt|grep apt
[11:12] <Piet> Igneous: ouch
[11:12] <Piet> Igneous: hmm, not sure. this should not have happened without you seeing huge red warnings
[11:13] <Igneous> definitely haven't seen any of those
[11:13] <Igneous> everything appears to be working fine aside from that... I just can't install/remove anything
[11:13] <Igneous> no missing lib issues, ldconfig works
[11:13] <Severity1> you can do a proxy loopback?
[11:13] <_tech_> who can help me with something i need...:)
[11:14] <Boohbah> Igneous: grep apt /var/log/dpkg.log*
[11:14] <Severity1> Igneos: are there any apt-get stuff running right now or is the synaptics open?
[11:14] <Assurbanipal> hi everyone, just bought a western digital sata hard drive and want to install on it ubuntu but get error messages on partitioning,can someone help me out plz??
[11:14] <Igneous> Boohbah: grep: /var/log/dpkg.log*: No such file or directory
[11:14] <Igneous> Severity1: negative
[11:14] <Severity1> having the synaptics or software sources or any other apt-get stuff running will prevent you from installing
[11:14] <bluegoon> how do i copy something in bash?
[11:15] <Boohbah> bluegoon: cp
[11:15] <Severity1> gedit it
[11:15] <bluegoon> thanks
[11:15] <Piet> Severity1: this is not the issue here. dpkg and apt are gone completely
[11:15] <Piet> Igneous: please pastebin the output of this: cat /proc/partitions; mount; echo $PATH; whoami; id
[11:15] <adam____> apt is gone_
[11:16] <adam____> ?
[11:16] <Severity1> omg
[11:16] <Severity1> that really is an issue
[11:16] <codeshepherd> Piet:  no matches found for anything.. but the same error happens again :(
[11:17] <Piet> codeshepherd: hmm, i'm not sure where else it could eb coming from
[11:17] <Severity1> Piet: try whereis apt or whereis dpkg
[11:17] <Piet> codeshepherd: i suggest you should logout and login again, and see if it still occurs
[11:17] <Piet> Severity1: it's not my pc, it's Igneous'
[11:18] <Severity1> sorry sorry im messing it up
[11:18] <Igneous> Piet: http://nopaste.com/p/a91palDkV
[11:18] <Severity1> you shud get /usr/bin/dpkg /etc/dpkg /usr/lib/dpkg /usr/share/dpkg /usr/share/man/man1/dpkg.1.gz for dpkg
[11:18] <Piet> Igneous: please also pastebin the output of this command: alias
[11:19] <DaveIngram> SteveHill: Boobah: Piet: Severity1: Thanks for all your help this morning... found out my log files had become massive. Removed them and was able to get the server running again.
[11:19] <Igneous> the only alias I have is ls='ls --color=auto'
[11:19] <Kinglui23> hi
[11:20] <Boohbah> DaveIngram: any log file in particular larger than the others (spam in maillog) ? maybe you can track down what is filling them up
[11:20] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[11:20] <s1kx> can i install ubuntu on top of a windwos 7 installation without the botomanager getting screwed?
[11:20] <Piet> DaveIngram: cglad you could solve it.
[11:20] <Kinglui23> i trying to connect from my ubuntu server to my svn repo but i always get an >cannot establish an connection to server<, anyone an hint where to look for?
[11:20] <Piet> Igneous: ok, then it looks like thy're really gone.
[11:20] <Kinglui23> ssh https wget and anywthing else works fine
[11:21] <Boohbah> s1kx: what do you mean 'on top of' ?
[11:21] <Piet> Igneous: do you want to try to find out what happened, or just to resolve it?
[11:21] <s1kx> after i installed windows 7
[11:21] <DaveIngram> Boohbah: It's a development web server. It was my mysql log files and I had added a massive table last night... so I'm pretty sure that was the whole issue
[11:21] <glicks> hey has anyone implemented full disk evncryption?
[11:21] <glicks> does it degrade performance much?
[11:21] <s1kx> since it has a new bootmanager, is GRUB comaptible with it or whatever? just wanna make sure i dont break anything
[11:21] <DaveIngram> Boohbah: trouble is the guys who set up this server didn't leave any space for the database to grow. (Good idea on a *web* server? ..uhh.. no)
[11:21] <Igneous> Piet: I'm more concerned about getting things back up and working at the moment, instead of finding out what has happened.. unless that's entirely out of the question later
[11:22] <veryhappy> hello
[11:22] <veryhappy> i want to set up an ubuntu system for my father
[11:22] <mrwes> veryhappy, yes?
[11:22] <bluegoon> How would i copy my .mozilla-thunderbird folder to my Desktop?
[11:22] <veryhappy> on his notebook was already windows xp but some things dont go
[11:22] <Piet> Igneous: hmm, at the current state, i would suggest you get an install cd, or download and burn an iso, and use recovery mode
[11:22] <glicks> does full disk encryption impact performance much?
[11:22] <veryhappy> and now i want to set up ubuntu
[11:22] <Boohbah> bluegoon: cp ~/.mozilla-thunderbird ~/Desktop
[11:23] <mrwes> veryhappy, download the Live CD and give it a test drive
[11:23] <veryhappy> and install windows xp on a virtualbox vm
[11:23] <veryhappy> wait until i had finished please
[11:23] <mrwes> veryhappy, UH?
[11:23] <veryhappy> so now i need to ask
[11:23] <bluegoon> Thank you
[11:23] <mrwes> veryhappy, type all at once then :P
[11:23] <bluegoon> Boobah: ty
[11:23] <Boohbah> !enter | veryhappy
[11:23] <Igneous> enter is not a period
[11:23] <veryhappy> :D
[11:23] <veryhappy> ok
[11:24] <Igneous> Piet: I don't have a cd drive, is there any other method?
[11:25] <Piet> Igneous: usb key stick i would guess. how did you install in the first place?
[11:25] <Igneous> with butterflies
[11:25] <mrwes> Igneous, hrmm..could use netlinboot
[11:25] <bluegoon> what does cp: ommiting directory mean?
[11:25] <veryhappy> I want to know how i should setup the swap partition and how i see the real memory i tried it already with /proc/mem but i didnt see where i get the information about the real ram and now i want to see how many ram it haves and then i want to know also how many memory should i give the virtual hard disk its and 40 gb notebook where i install ubuntu and then i place the virtual box vm with windows xp above.
[11:25] <erUSUL> bluegoon: that cp will no copy the directory/folder
[11:25] <saravanan> bluegoon: use cp -R (to copy recursively)
[11:26] <bluegoon> ah ok, thanks
[11:26] <Boohbah> bluegoon: oh that means it missed a subdirectory, sorry.  'cp -a ~/.mozilla-thunderbird ~/Desktop'
[11:26] <erUSUL> veryhappy: "free " on a terminal
[11:27] <Piet> Igneous: what is butterflies?
[11:27] <bluegoon> Ive tried the cp -a now, nothing happened.
[11:27] <veryhappy> ok 515264 total means then how many ram?
[11:27] <Kajarly> Good Afternoon
[11:27] <bluegoon> no directory on the Desktop yet.
[11:27] <veryhappy> physical?
[11:27] <mrwes> Igneous, sorry that's unetbootin http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[11:27] <erUSUL> veryhappy: 512 MiB
[11:27] <veryhappy> ok
[11:28] <mrwes> bluegoon, you need cp -R for recursive
[11:28] <veryhappy> and normal you should twice the size for swap right?
[11:28] <Igneous> Piet: Butterflies flap their delicate wings, the disturbance ripples outward, changing the flow of the eddy currents in the upperatmosphere. These cause mometary pockets of higher-pressure air to form, which acts as lenses that deflect incoming cosmic rays, focusing them to strike the drive platter and flip consecutive bits on the hard drive, to install ubuntu.
[11:28] <veryhappy> should make twice the size
[11:28] <erUSUL> veryhappy: i do not think you will be able to run winxp virtualized with that low ram
[11:28] <ceekays>  I've installed  some guest OS in Virtual Box and I cannot access flash drives. Can anyone help?
[11:28] <Boohbah> Igneous: lol
[11:29] <erUSUL> veryhappy: yep twice is a good choice in your case
[11:29] <veryhappy> erUSUL: i set up yesterday 2 virtual machines with 256 MB
[11:29] <veryhappy> they run
[11:29] <bluegoon> mrwes: thanks
[11:29] <mrwes> nod
[11:29] <Faust__> hi all
[11:30] <veryhappy> ... and that at the same time one win xp and other ubuntu derivat
[11:30] <veryhappy> with 256
[11:30] <veryhappy> mb ram
[11:30] <nellmathew> i know this is offtopic, but is there anyone in here that went to school for both CS and comp. security/forensics? or better yet, anyone know a channel or something i might be able to ask someone who's a CS major a few questions?
[11:30] <Kajarly> My wireless seems to work fine in a fresh 9.04 desktop install, but after selecting a connection method, WEP/WEP2 personal encrypted password to login with, it never finishes connecting, I haven't updated yet... Anyone know how to fix this?
[11:31] <veryhappy> CS Counterstrike? :D
[11:31] <veryhappy> Cyber ... :D
[11:31] <Faust__> hey, what is the status on a kfreebsd ubuntu port? I remember this idea was thrown out by Shuttleworth and seemingly rejected but there is continued entries in launchpad??
[11:32] <Boohbah> nellmathew: #networking and #security
[11:32] <Piet> Igneous: is that a quote or do you mean you don't want to tell?
[11:33] <r3dux> Kajarly: Is your WPA key correct?
[11:33] <Igneous> Piet: I was just kidding, I put the drive in a friend's laptop and installed it from there
[11:33] <Igneous> my laptop doesn't have a cd drive, I have a battery in the ultrabay
[11:34] <nellmathew> thanks a lot Boohbah!
[11:34] <Guest8889> hello, i have update ubunto , and i think is much more slower
[11:34] <nellmathew> join #networking
[11:34] <nellmathew> err
[11:34] <Kajarly> r3dux: That's what I Tried first
[11:34] <Guest8889> how can i optmize it , i alredy install prelink, but also programs are responding slow
[11:35] <veryhappy> how many memory should i give the windows xp virtual machine
[11:35] <veryhappy> on a 40 gb hard drive where i have installed ubuntu?
[11:35] <Kajarly> r3dux: It kept giving me the login box each time after about 5 minutes of connecting
[11:35] <r3dux> Kajarly: You could try installing backports and see if there's a newer version of the wifi driver.. I had to - my wireless would go into "deep sleep" every now and then until I installed backports
[11:35] <indus> Guest8889: whats prelink?
[11:35] <Piet> Igneous: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick use the unetbootin method, since that may work without dpkg
[11:35] <mrwes> Igneous, do you have a usb flash drive? You could install unetbootin and it'll download the Ubuntu iso for you and install it
[11:36] <Kajarly> r3dux: I haven't connected it to the internet yet, need to find a lan cable long enough to get to the router
[11:36] <mrwes> Piet, I told him that 10 minutes ago :)
[11:36] <r3dux> Kajarly: nods.
[11:36] <Piet> mrwes: huh, i didnt see that
[11:36] <MaxTesla> hello all
[11:36] <Igneous> this bios is actually too old to boot from usb, I wish I could do that
[11:36] <mrwes> Igneous, sorry that's unetbootin http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[11:36] <mrwes> ^^
[11:36] <Piet> mrwes: too many netsplits i'm sure :)
[11:36] <Igneous> is there any way of actualy fixing this without cd recovery mode?
[11:36] <MaxTesla> How do I install ATi graphic card drivers in Ubuntu 9.04 without getting the black screen of death at reboot
[11:36] <Shapeshifter> When removing a package, how can I also remove dependencies of that package?
[11:36] <r3dux> Kajarly: When you do, try: sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-jaunty
[11:37] <Kajarly> r3dux: I will try, thnx
[11:37] <mrwes> Piet, no biggie :)
[11:37] <r3dux> MaxTelsa - Have you tried installing through EnvyNG?
[11:37] <Piet> Igneous: doh, you'Re not making it easy :)
[11:37] <MaxTesla> EnvyNg gives me the black screen of death
[11:37] <r3dux> Ahhh... hehe
[11:37] <mrwes> MaxTesla, which card?
[11:37] <Piet> Igneous: last resort would be, i guess, debootstrap
[11:37] <r3dux> Try an earlier version of the ATI driver then?
[11:38] <MaxTesla> mrwes ATI Mobility Radeon X2300 HD but on the sticker it says HD 2300 and it is a laptop
[11:38] <veryhappy> has anyone read me question?
[11:38] <JOKER1> http://chatzilla.hacksrus.com/motifs/images/triop.png
[11:38] <Igneous> there is no way to install apt and dpkg without restore or debootstrap?
[11:38] <MaxTesla> r3dux all types of install gives me the black screen of death after reboot
[11:38] <mrwes> Igneous, what are you trying to fix BTW?
[11:39] <Igneous> apt-get and dpkg are not installed on my system
[11:39] <root__> Hello
[11:39] <hphubert> cześć
[11:39] <erUSUL> !hi
[11:39] <root__> Igneous
[11:39] <r3dux> veryhappy: As much as possible without affecting the host system performance. I've got 4GB so I give VirtualBox 2GB
[11:39] <Piet> Igneous: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/installation-guide/powerpc/linux-upgrade.html
[11:39] <root__> R3dux
[11:39] <r3dux> root__: ?
[11:39] <Guest8889> indus: is a program that prelinks programs , insted of dynamic linking on the fly
[11:39] <hphubert> Welcome
[11:39] <MaxTesla> mrwes ATI Mobility Radeon X2300 HD but on the sticker it says HD 2300 and it is a laptop
[11:39] <bluegoon> Is there a way to make a copy verbal?
[11:39] <Piet> Igneous: that is everything but straight forward, though
[11:40] <bluegoon> make it echo its actions to me?
[11:40] <bluegoon> just to see if it is indeed shifting data?
[11:40] <veryhappy> r3dux thanks for the tip but i want only to know how big i shoud set the Hard disk drive for the virtual machin
[11:40] <root__> please i need tutorial on backtrack Lan penetration
[11:40] <hphubert> I have a problem. When you type a-release-upgrade pops up to my mistake
[11:40] <root__> R3dux
[11:40] <Igneous> Piet: is it not possible to just download aptitude and dpkg via their own respective deb packages and then do ar -x, detar the data.tar.gz, and move them to /?
[11:41] <ziroday> root__: we can't help you with that here
[11:41] <ziroday> hphubert: do you mean do-release-upgrade?
[11:41] <droid7> is it possible to use the IME from fedora ?
[11:41] <r3dux> veryhappy: Ah.. soz - veryhappy - if you set the drive to a big size and set it to automatically grow as needed instead of assigning a size and using disk space straight away you'll be okay. You can't grow a drive in VirtualBox, you can just add Extended partitions to it (i.e. D: drive)
[11:41] <Piet> Igneous: maybe, i never tried
[11:41] <root__> how do umean
[11:41] <ziroday> droid7: yes, but not a good way to go
[11:41] <ziroday> root__: we can, and will not help you with that issue in this room
[11:41] <ziroday> root__: s/can/cannot
[11:41] <Piet> Igneous: feel free to do so
[11:42] <root__>  i cccc
[11:42] <veryhappy> ok thank you
[11:42] <Boohbah> root__: before you go penetrating other people's systems you may want to stop running your irc client as root :)
[11:42] <veryhappy> i will set a hard drive that grows for 35 gb
[11:42] <MaxTesla> How do I install ATi graphic card drivers in Ubuntu 9.04 without getting the black screen of death at reboot
[11:42] <root__> what do discuss here anyway/
[11:42] <ziroday> MaxTesla: make sure you install the right drivers?
[11:42] <Igneous> Piet: would that harm an archlinux install?
[11:42] <ziroday> root__: ubuntu related support issues, do /topci
[11:42] <ziroday> root__: /topic
[11:43] <Piet> Igneous: before you do anything at this point, make sure you have everything nicely backed up.
[11:43] <hphubert> ziroday: When you type a-release-upgrade error pops up to me, to quote them?
[11:43] <MaxTesla> ziroday I have tried so many different drivers everything gives me the black screen of death
[11:43] <root__> backtrack is ubuntu
[11:43] <MaxTesla> :(
[11:43] <veryhappy> ok bye bye
[11:43] <hphubert> sry
[11:43] <ziroday> root__: backtrack is _not_ ubuntu. Do not ask for backtrack support here.
[11:43] <hphubert> i m using an translator
[11:43] <root__> aight man
[11:43] <bazhang> root__, wrong channel
[11:43] <ziroday> hphubert: a-release-upgrade is not a real command. What is your native language?
[11:44] <Piet> Igneous: not if the archlinux installation is on a different partition which is would supposedly have to be anyway
[11:44] <hphubert> My native language' s polish
[11:44] <root__> can u please direct me
[11:44] <ziroday> !pl | hphubert
[11:44] <root__> to the right one
[11:44] <ziroday> root__: #remote-exploit
[11:44] <root__> thanx man
[11:45] <hphubert> ubottu: on my native channel there aren"t any other people
[11:45] <adam____> root__: you should not be logged on irc as a root user
[11:45] <Bischoop> I can't use mine CD/DVD writer after UPGRADE, how can I find out what the couse is?
[11:45] <gartral> so, any ports that i need to open on my firewall too allow X server access over ssh?
[11:45] <root__> do they have a chat room?
[11:45] <Bischoop> Hi Alle
[11:45] <MaxTesla> How do I install ATi graphic card drivers in Ubuntu 9.04 without getting the black screen of death at reboot
[11:45] <ziroday> gartral: just the normal ssh port
[11:45] <root__> ok i'll be back
[11:45] <ziroday> MaxTesla: you use System > Administration > Hardware Drivers
[11:45] <gartral> goodstuffs
[11:46] <Bischoop> MaxTesla: use "Envy"
[11:46] <MaxTesla> ziroday it does not show my graphic drivers ubuntu can not find anything there except my modem card
[11:46] <Piet> hphubert: there are 71 other people there
[11:46] <ziroday> !envy > Bischoop
[11:46] <bazhang> !envy
[11:46] <ziroday> MaxTesla: then there are no drivers for your card, they are already installed
[11:46] <MaxTesla> Bischoop EnvyNg gives me the black screen of death
[11:46] <adam____> root_: make a new user "useradd user" "su -l user"
[11:46] <adam____> root__: make a new user "useradd user" "su -l user"
[11:46] <MaxTesla> ziroday NO because i had nice graphics in windows vista but now it is all pixly
[11:46] <r3dux> MaxTelsa - Have you installed restricted? I think it's sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-jaunty - but don't quote me - google
[11:47] <ziroday> MaxTesla: what graphics card?
[11:47] <Bischoop> ubottu: thanks, I knew that
[11:47] <MaxTesla> ziroday i have Ati Mobility Radeon X2300 HD
[11:47] <instant> hello
[11:47] <Boohbah> !hi | instant
[11:47] <MaxTesla> r3dux i have tried that it is a part of many guides and all give the black screen of death
[11:48] <ziroday> MaxTesla: you might find that the fglrx driver has dropped support for that card and you can only use the opensource radeon or radeonhd drivers now
[11:48] <Piet> Igneous: will you find your way?
[11:48] <Wall975> i'm back
[11:48] <Igneous> Piet: I'll be fine, thanks
[11:48] <r3dux> MaxTesla: Hmmm... Tried booting to runlevel 3 or 1 and making changes to xorg.conf (even though HAL takes a lot away from xorg.conf these days..?)
[11:48] <Piet> Igneous: good luck
[11:49] <hphubert> when  i use a do-release-upgrade I get answer "Checking for a new ubuntu release Traceback (most recent call last):   File "/usr/bin/do-release-upgrade", line 45, in <module>     useProposed=options.proposed_release)   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/UpdateManager/Core/MetaRelease.py", line 95, in __init__     parser.read(self.CONF)   File "/usr/lib/p"
[11:49] <Boohbah> Wall975: welcome back
[11:49] <Wall975> thanx man
[11:49] <linuxstudio>  am having trouble compiling a kernel. Can anyone help? thx
[11:49] <MaxTesla> ziroday when i follow "READEON" instructions it gives me the black screen of death nad READEONHD instructions are not clear but at reboot it says i must select drivers
[11:49] <Wall975> what is ubuntu.i'm new to it
[11:49] <MaxTesla> r3dux i have no idea what that is
[11:49] <ShadowSniper> hey guys, is there a way to change how an audio jack works, for example make the mic jack into a headphone output... i know you can do it in windows...
[11:49] <Boohbah> !ubuntu | Wall975
[11:50] <r3dux> MaxTesla: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runlevel
[11:50] <ziroday> MaxTesla: okay, you need the radeonhd drivers
[11:50] <hphubert> when  i use a do-release-upgrade I get answer "Checking for a new ubuntu release Traceback (most recent call last):   File "/usr/bin/do-release-upgrade", line 45, in <module>     useProposed=options.proposed_release)   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/UpdateManager/Core/MetaRelease.py", line 95, in __init__     parser.read(self.CONF)   File "/usr/lib/p"
[11:50] <Piet> hphubert: please pastebin this entire message
[11:50] <ziroday> MaxTesla: please pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:50] <Wall975> ok i see
[11:50] <MaxTesla> ziroday i did the installation as given on the help page
[11:50] <Piet> !pastebin | hphubert
[11:50] <MaxTesla> ziroday what????
[11:50] <ziroday> MaxTesla: please pastebin that file
[11:51] <MaxTesla> what is "pastebin"
[11:51] <ziroday> MaxTesla: see up two lines
[11:51] <Bischoop> MaxTella have u tried drivers from ati's website?
[11:51] <mrwes> sigh...
[11:51] <Piet> !pastebin > MaxTesla
[11:51] <ShadowSniper> hey guys, is there a way to change how an audio jack works, for example make the mic jack into a headphone output...
[11:51] <ziroday> Bischoop: please do not recommend that, futhermore they have dropped support for that card
[11:51] <DaZ> linuxstudio: do you really have to? <:
[11:51] <MaxTesla> Bischoop there are no direct drivers just generla linux which gives black screen of death
[11:51] <Boohbah> ShadowSniper: i think that would require some hardware modification
[11:51] <ziroday> MaxTesla: please pastebin your xorg.conf and verify that you have xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd installed
[11:52] <Bischoop> MaxTesla what u have in LOGS?
[11:52] <MaxTesla> ziroday ok ok give me 4 secs
[11:52] <r3dux> MaxTesla: PasteBin is a website you paste stuff and get a unique ID for that paste for people to look at? ziroday - I've never used it, but is that the gist?
[11:52] <ShadowSniper> Boohbah, its doable in windows =/
[11:52] <Boohbah> ShadowSniper: oh
[11:52] <ziroday> r3dux: yep, you copy the url and give it to your helper
[11:52] <ShadowSniper> Boohbah, the software for the audio drivers lets me choose what i want to port to be
[11:52] <hphubert> MaxTesla: my xorg.cong' s epmty
[11:52] <Wall975> obuttu i need a link wher i can download it
[11:52] <Bischoop> MaxTesla: try to startx from console and u'll see LOGS
[11:52] <r3dux> ziroday - excellent, just making sure
[11:52] <ShadowSniper> Boohbah, so i assume i can retask it in the config file for it... but idk where i would find that
[11:53] <bazhang> Wall975, www.ubuntu.com
[11:53] <MaxTesla> pastebin Section "Monitor"
[11:53] <MaxTesla> 	Identifier	"Configured Monitor"
[11:53] <MaxTesla> EndSection
[11:53] <MaxTesla> Section "Screen"
[11:53] <MaxTesla> 	Identifier	"Default Screen"
[11:53] <FloodBot1> MaxTesla: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:53] <MaxTesla> 	Monitor		"Configured Monitor"
[11:53] <hphubert> Piet: my xorg.cong' s epmty
[11:53] <ziroday> MaxTesla: I said *pastebin*
[11:53] <ziroday> !pastebin | MaxTesla
[11:53] <r3dux> hphubert: xorg.conF
[11:53] <hphubert> sry
[11:53] <r3dux> hphubert: xorg.conf ....linux is case sensitive..
[11:53] <MaxTesla> ziroday i just came from windows yeasterday
[11:54] <ziroday> MaxTesla: I understand that, but you need to read what is given to you :)
[11:54] <Bischoop> MaxTesla: /var/log/xorg :-)
[11:54] <mrwes> ziroday, have him do a sudo apt-get install pastebinit and then it's just pastebinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:54] <ziroday> MaxTesla: please copy the stuff in that file to http://paste.ubuntu.com and then hit send and copy the url back to us
[11:54] <MaxTesla> ziroday i went to pastebin home page and copied the text
[11:54] <ShadowSniper> hey guys, is there a way to change how an audio jack works, for example make the mic jack into a headphone output... i can do it in windows with this m/b
[11:54] <ziroday> mrwes: better I teach him how to use pastebin and then he can know in the future
[11:54] <MaxTesla> http://paste.ubuntu.com/172929/
[11:54] <MaxTesla> http://paste.ubuntu.com/172929/
[11:54] <Bischoop> ShadowSniper: Kmix
[11:55] <ziroday> MaxTesla: yay! you did it
[11:55] <mrwes> bingo!
[11:55] <mrwes> \o/
[11:55] <MaxTesla> ziroday yes i did
[11:55] <r3dux> hehe
[11:55] <hphubert> http://paste.ubuntu.com/172930/
[11:55] <Bischoop> anybody from EDI?
[11:55] <ShadowSniper> Bischoop: alright thanks, i'll take a look at that, although, is it for kde only?
[11:55] <r3dux> Bischoop: You can't re-assign physical soundports with Kmix or any mixer AFAIK
[11:55] <ziroday> MaxTesla: okay, now do you have the xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd package installed?
[11:56] <MaxTesla> ziroday no idea
[11:56] <MaxTesla> ziroday most likely maybe
[11:56] <MaxTesla> ziroday maybe ;)
[11:56] <mrwes> heh
[11:56] <Bischoop> r3dux: u sure?
[11:56] <ziroday> MaxTesla: do sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd
[11:56] <MaxTesla> ziroday NO
[11:56] <Bischoop> r3dux: so, u know where to do it?
[11:56] <r3dux> Bischoop: No, I'm not :) But I've never seen the option, and I've had a lot of sound issues I've had to work out...
[11:56] <MaxTesla> ziroday if i do that and reboot i get the black screen of death
[11:56] <ziroday> MaxTesla: good, well it should be installing now
[11:56] <MaxTesla> i recognize it
[11:56] <ShadowSniper> Bischoop: is there a comparable program for gnome, i'd rather not have to install the kde support packages if i dont have to
[11:56] <ziroday> MaxTesla: well you won't this time okay
[11:57] <MaxTesla> ziroday ok but wont it mess with my semi installation of radeonhd?
[11:57] <r3dux> Shadow - if you're using Alsa, try gnome-alsamixer
[11:57] <MaxTesla> which i almost maybe did complete
[11:57] <ShadowSniper> r3dux: alright, thanks
[11:57] <ziroday> MaxTesla: err possibly, I have no idea what you did previously
[11:57] <ziroday> MaxTesla: anyway, do that for now
[11:57] <r3dux> or just alsamixer from the console, ("m" mutes/unmutes btw)
[11:58] <MaxTesla> ziroday i am doing and it is blinking ;)
[11:58] <ziroday> MaxTesla: blinking?
[11:58] <Piet> hphubert: which ubuntu version do you have there?
[11:58] <MaxTesla> ziroday i did THIS https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonHD
[11:58] <ShadowSniper> r3dux: just so you know most on most new motherboards the audio jacks can be either input or output
[11:58] <MaxTesla> ziroday ok it is done now what?
[11:58] <Bischoop> ShadowSniper: try: synaptic and you can find some software for gnome, BTW it's doesn matter what window manager u use, at least you'll have to install MAYBE some libraries for KDE
[11:58] <Piet> hphubert: did you manually edit the file /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades ?
[11:58] <hphubert> Piet: i hav  server 9.04
[11:59] <r3dux> Shadow - I've got a Acer Aspire 8920G - bought Oct 2008 - you reckon mine are?
[11:59] <ShadowSniper> Bischoop: alright
[11:59] <hphubert> Piet: no
[11:59] <ziroday> MaxTesla: now edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to look like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/172933/
[11:59] <Bischoop> ShadowSniper: or try to AKS Uncle Google :-)
[11:59] <MaxTesla> ziroday it is completed what you said me to do
[11:59] <r3dux> Shadow - maybe could be done in Windows - I don't know anything that would do the same port-swapping job in linux... you?
[11:59] <Bischoop> ShadowSniper: or try to ASK Uncle Google :-)
[11:59] <Boohbah> ShadowSniper: http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?id=59456
[12:00] <Piet> can someone pastebin their /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades for me, please?
[12:00] <ShadowSniper> Bischoop: yeah, ive been looking around for most of today...
[12:00] <Piet> should be 9.04
[12:00] <Bischoop> ShadowSniper: and nothing...? maybe your'e first who does need it?
[12:01] <hphubert> Piet: may i paste there my file?
[12:01] <r3dux> Piet: The only line not commented out in my /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades is: "[DEFAULT]" and "Prompt=normal"
[12:01] <ShadowSniper> Bischoop: i may just not be looking for the right thing lol
[12:01] <MaxTesla> ziroday it wont let me save
[12:01] <MaxTesla> ziroday how do i save it?
[12:01] <ziroday> MaxTesla: how are you editing the file?
[12:01] <r3dux> MaxTesla: You might need to sudo gedit the file, not d it as your normal log in
[12:01] <Boohbah> MaxTesla: you need to edit as root 'gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[12:01] <MaxTesla> ziroday i click places computer etc x11 and the file
[12:02] <ShadowSniper> Bischoop: i started out tryen to fix a problem with it being only one channel, then realised it wasnt the output it was the jack itself, which is why i had it plugged into another one in the first place lol
[12:02] <r3dux> Copy the changes into the clipboard, close the file without saving, sudo gedit the file, paste changes or make mods, save, quit
[12:02] <Piet> hphubert: please not
[12:02] <MaxTesla> ziroday i need to edit it via the terminaö
[12:02] <ziroday> MaxTesla: do gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf in the terminal
[12:02] <Piet> thanks r3dux
[12:02] <MaxTesla> ziroday yes i have done it give me 4 sec
[12:02] <ShadowSniper> Bischoop: although the kmix seems to do what i want it too
[12:02] <ShadowSniper> Bischoop: i just have to install it and try
[12:03] <MaxTesla> ziroday ok i have done it
[12:03] <hphubert> Piet: ok ps in linux i' m only 2nd week my english is not bad i've got only fourteen years old
[12:03] <r3dux> MaxTelsa -- there a number of text only editing things, try "vi" but you need to know that ":q" quits and saves, "e" puts you in editing mode etc, ":q:" quits without saving --- I --THINK--- text editing in console can be a pain
[12:03] <ziroday> MaxTesla: now please logout and log back in
[12:03] <MaxTesla> ziroday it is done but i recognize all this and this all elads tot he black screen of death
[12:03] <MaxTesla> ziroday if i do this now
[12:03] <ziroday> MaxTesla: please logout and log back in
[12:04] <MaxTesla> ziroday i will get the black screen of death
[12:04] <Bischoop> ShadowSniper: Great :-) let us know does it help u, please just rememba that u  can configure channels, u find it in Options
[12:04] <MaxTesla> ziroday i will get the blacks creen of death and it will take me 15-20 minutes to reinstall ubuntu
[12:04] <jrib> r3dux: just use nano if you aren't comfortable with vi
[12:04] <r3dux> I have faith in ziroday :) .... Damn optimists..
[12:04] <MaxTesla> ziroday if i am not back within 5 minutes you will know that i have the black screen of death
[12:05] <r3dux> jrib - you're right of course... I've not edited text in text mode for a long while - good reminder - thank you!
[12:05] <ziroday> MaxTesla: if it "black screens of death" you can do sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg,conf and change "radeonhd" to "ati"
[12:05] <ziroday> or you can just leave
[12:05] <gartral> how do i check server side if the x client is just waiting on a command?
[12:05]  * r3dux goes for a beer and smoke - Friday FTW.
[12:05] <Piet> hphubert: do this: echo '[DEFAULT]'> /tmp/release-upgrades; cat /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades >> /tmp/release-upgrades; sudo cp /tmp/release-upgrades /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[12:06] <Kartagis> would ekiga let you do stuff like windows netmeeting does?
[12:06] <karen> how do i take my firewall off
[12:06] <Severity1> ekiga is like skype
[12:06] <jrib> karen: did you ever turn one on?
[12:06] <ziroday> karen: sudo service ufw stop
[12:07] <Exilant> I need some help / advice, I locked myself out of the system. I had grub2 installed and / as ext4, then i installed windows which overwrote the mbr. Using the livecd, i am able to chroot into my system again, but i don't know how i can install grub or grub2 from there on
[12:07] <domenic> need some help settign up my dial-up modem in ubuntu 9.04 please
[12:07] <hphubert> Piet: may i try now use a do-release-upgrade?
[12:07] <jrib> !grub > Exilant
[12:07] <jrib> !dialup > domenic
[12:07] <Piet> hphubert: please do
[12:07] <karen> im trying to upload a vidio to a site and the connection keeps getting reset ?
[12:08] <Kartagis> from gnomemeeting.org: It supports many audio and video codecs, and is interoperable with other SIP compliant software and also with Microsoft NetMeeting.
[12:08] <Exilant> ubottu: you are quite smart, thanks :) i see why you pass the touring test :)
[12:08] <ShadowSniper> Bischoop: ugh well http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdemultimedia/kmix/switches.html according to that, it has what i want
[12:08] <ziroday> karen: that is unlikely to be a firewall, more likely an internet connection issue
[12:08] <hphubert> Piet: thank you ps what can i do to upgrade my system to 9.10 i know thai is a alpha
[12:08] <domenic> setserial dosent work
[12:08] <ShadowSniper> Bischoop: but i cant seem to get to it =(
[12:08] <gartral> how do i check server side if the x client is just waiting on a command?
[12:08] <hphubert> *an aplha
[12:09] <domenic> need some help settign up my dial-up modem in ubuntu 9.04 please
[12:09] <karen> its doing my head in lol
[12:09] <Piet> hphubert: 9.10 is a stable release by now
[12:09] <karen> i just cant do anything on here
[12:09] <ShadowSniper> Bischoop: *sigh* well i'll just have to pick this back up tomorrow, to tired to keep trouble shooting shit tonight =(
[12:09] <Piet> hphubert: sorry, that was plain wrong
[12:09] <domenic> hey, i need some help setting up my moden in 9.04 but i dont have "setserial" lspci is listing it but minicom isnt working
[12:09] <gartral> ShadowSniper: language!
[12:09] <ziroday> karen: try a different site to upload the file, a different internet connection or make a smaller/lower quality video?
[12:09] <jrib> domenic: did you read ubottu's link?
[12:10] <Piet> hphubert: 9.04 is stable 9.10 is not released, you are right.
[12:10] <domenic> yeah setserial isnt working
[12:10] <domenic> ive allready visited and tried that page :(~
[12:10] <Kartagis> !language | ShadowSniper
[12:10] <khirr> hello, i have ssh server but my users can access to /home and see all folders, how can i change to the just can see their directory only, for exame /home/user
[12:10] <hphubert> piet: may i upgrade my system to 9.10 by do-release-upgrade?
[12:10] <Piet> hphubert: you could set your APT sources to point to karmenic. but i don't think you want to do this at this early stage, especially not on a server.
[12:11] <Piet> hphubert: for what i know, do-release-upgrade will only upgrade to a higher version once this has been released
[12:12] <Piet> hphubert: why do you want to upgrade anyway?
[12:12] <hphubert> Piet: thak you
[12:12] <hphubert> Piet: thank you
[12:12] <mrwes> hphubert, run the alpha in a virtualbox -- much safer
[12:12] <dorothygale> got a couple of niggly issues with my ubuntu install. i was hoping someone could offer some soultions. I am using a mitac 8050 running 9.04. My front audio ports aren't working and whenever I use the Fn combinations to raise or lower volume it mutes and the the desktop goes wacky and I have to ctrl-alt-esc
[12:12] <Shapeshifter> Problem: When I launch skype in jaunty with all updates installed, it immediately crashes with a single message "Aborted" on the command line. I already tried: isntalling from medibuntu, from the skype repo and from the skype page and deleting ~/.Skype. All suggestions on the forums on how to fix this didn't work for me. Can you please help me?
[12:12] <hphubert> ok
[12:13] <wombatunder> does the Mobile Broadband section in Network connections in ubuntu 8.04 work properly?
[12:13] <hphubert> Piet: i use my brain and i know that it is a bad idea
[12:13] <ziroday> wombatunder: depends on your 3G card
[12:14] <Bischoop> how to turn off slowly keyboard Ive turned it on with SHIFT PROBABLY
[12:14] <MaxTesla> ziroday i am back
[12:14] <Severity1> sudo apt-get remove --purge <package>
[12:14] <ziroday> MaxTesla: did it fail?
[12:14] <MaxTesla> ziroday it did not give me the black screen of death
[12:14] <ziroday> MaxTesla: wonderful
[12:14] <hphubert> who can past here own /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades ?
[12:14] <sergio_> necestito ayuda
[12:15] <hphubert> i hacen 't there aa documentation
[12:15] <MaxTesla> ziroday it does work kinda it gave me more screen resolution options but now my monitor which i have connected to my laptop is a bit off and all videos are still very pixly
[12:15] <wombatunder> ziroday: I have a Huawei E169 that access the australian optus network. I tried to follow http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=cd4ade02b6c15e1c41c910c2a8c54385&t=858032 but I'm having issues connecting.
[12:15] <ziroday> wombatunder: unfortunately I have no idea about 3G cards, however the large #ubuntu-au community will probably have an idea
[12:15] <sergio_> ayuda con driver nvidia
[12:16] <ziroday> MaxTesla: great
[12:16] <wombatunder> zirodat: Ahh, Cool, thank you.
[12:16] <Piet> hphubert: is the release-upgrades file still broken then?
[12:16] <ziroday> sergio_: what language are you speaking?
[12:16] <mrwes> MaxTesla, worked aye?
[12:16] <MaxTesla> ziroday no not great my monitor is now way to the left and still the graphic card is not working even close to what it was under windows
[12:16] <jrib> !es | sergio_
[12:16] <sergio_> ziroday, spanish
[12:16] <MaxTesla> mrwes by working if i can reboot yes, by work if videos are now smoth NO
[12:17] <hphubert> Piet: younger i modified this file
[12:17] <sergio_> ok, muchas gracias ubotuu
[12:17] <Piet> hphubert: i just helped you fixing this filr which i think you previously broke by editing it manually. please don't break it again.
[12:17] <hphubert> Piet: now all is ok
[12:17] <ziroday> MaxTesla: how large is this monitor and at what resolution?
[12:17] <mrwes> ziroday, didn't he have a virtual desktop setting in his original xorg.cong?
[12:17] <mrwes> conf*
[12:17] <hphubert> Piet: ok
[12:17] <ziroday> MaxTesla: and what do you mean by "pixly videos"
[12:17] <ziroday> mrwes: I asked him to remove it
[12:17] <Piet> hphubert: actually you said you had not modified it when i asked you
[12:17] <Piet> well, be it
[12:17] <Azodon> I had read from Asus eeepc forum and found out the Huawei E220 work out of the box but not E169 the thumb drive shape modem for default Xandros Linux.
[12:17] <hphubert> Piet: sry
[12:17] <MaxTesla> ziroday forget about the monitor i can adjust that by going into the monitor options by clicking on it
[12:18] <MaxTesla> ziroday what is 100% important is to get smoth videos
[12:18] <MaxTesla> ziroday what i want are smoth videos where the camera can keep up and everything is not a big pixle
[12:18] <ziroday> MaxTesla: okay, well unfortunately I have no idea what you mean by "pixly video"
[12:18] <Bischoop> I PRESSD SHIFT and now I type very slowly
[12:18] <ziroday> MaxTesla: can you take a screenshot?
[12:19] <MaxTesla> ziroday what i mean is that when the video moves everything gets messy and you can see the pixles the smal squares you can see them it is not as smoth as when you watch tv
[12:19] <MaxTesla> ziroday sure if you tell me how
[12:19] <hphubert> i have a problem with my tl-wn353gd wireless card
[12:19] <ziroday> MaxTesla: err okay, in a terminal please do metacity --replace
[12:19] <Bischoop> jak wylaczyc powolne klawisze w kde?
[12:20] <JFlash> hi, what's is the linux distro that has be most cool look looks?
[12:20] <MaxTesla> ziroday ok i did that it made my monitor blink
[12:20] <JFlash> you know, like Vista does
[12:20] <Tyler> JFlash: they all can look cool
[12:20] <Shapeshifter> gah this is so brilliant. I never expected ubuntu to be this crashy and buggy.
[12:20] <ziroday> MaxTesla: okay, now try to play video
[12:20] <Tyler> JFlash: you might want something that uses KDE, but even gnome can look fancy.
[12:20] <JFlash> Tyler, yea, i've tried costomization but it's not the same thing, imho
[12:20] <ziroday> JFlash: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic and note cool is subjective
[12:20] <MaxTesla> ziroday ok give me 4 secs
[12:20] <hphubert> i have a problem with my tl-wn353gd wireless card in iwconfig i don't see any cards
[12:21] <gartral> is theere any X server configsurations i need to do for remote XDMP..
[12:21] <MaxTesla> ziroday still everything is so pixly
[12:22] <gartral> also, how do i make it so that sshd is loaded at startup, not login?
[12:22] <ziroday> MaxTesla: okay, I'm sorry I can't help you any further as I can't completely understand your issue, the nice people in #radeonhd might
[12:22] <MaxTesla> ziroday also my terminal wont close without asking do i want to close it is still apprently thinking
[12:22] <MaxTesla> ziroday ok
[12:22] <ziroday> MaxTesla: yes, it is running metacity
[12:22] <MaxTesla> ziroday what is metacity
[12:22] <hphubert> i have a problem with my tl-wn353gd wireless card in iwconfig i don't see any cards wh can help me?
[12:23] <ziroday> MaxTesla: open another terminal, type in metacity --replace & disown then you can close both terminal
[12:23] <bazhang> hphubert, what chipset
[12:23] <MaxTesla> ziroday ok
[12:23] <hphubert> bazhang: please wait
[12:23] <MaxTesla> ziroday then i will check in that other channel
[12:24] <MaxTesla> ziroday i also made a post about it here https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/71091
[12:24] <JFlash> Tyler, no ofense to involved parties but KDE looks like s**t to me
[12:24] <MaxTesla> ziroday if you could go there and help me it would be great
[12:25] <Tyler> JFlash: which KDE? KDE4 is pretty snazzy-looking
[12:25] <Tyler> 3.5 does fit your description though
[12:25] <ziroday> MaxTesla: I have already tried to help you, I have explained I cannot fully understand your issue.
[12:25] <bazhang> JFlash, Tyler please move chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:25] <Shapeshifter> can someone uploade me a deb for skype older than .72 ?
[12:25] <MaxTesla> ziroday ok thanks for your time, atleast you didnt give me the black screen of death and that is always something
[12:25] <dth_> hi guys, i reformatted my HDD (from ext4 to reiserfs), restored all the files and changed the fstab accordingly (new fstab: http://pastebin.ca/1423574 ) - now after boot I get a readonly filesystem and nothing seems to run properly, mount shows me http://pastebin.ca/1423575 which is nonsense as / is readonly (verified with touch /test) and /tmp isnt mounted as tmpfs at all, but rather shows the /tmp of the /dev/sda1 partition. Any suggestio
[12:25] <dth_> ns?
[12:26] <JFlash> ziroday, cool is subjective , but to some degree. if you present me ten times with a pair of  interfaces one created by a 5,000-wage professional and one created by a 100,000-wage professional, i will be able to pick which one created which all the 10 times right
[12:26] <ziroday> JFlash: well I don't earn either of those amounts, nor am I an interface designer, best advice for you is to find a screenshot you like and ask us how its implemented
[12:29] <bazhang> hphubert, lets keep this in channel
[12:30] <linduxed> im using evolution as my mail client, and when i start the program up (using the vertical view option), the message pane gets stretched to ridiculous protortions and i have to drag to adjust it every start of the application...
[12:30] <linduxed> any ideas?
[12:31] <hphubert> bazhang:ok Realtek RTL8225
[12:34] <alinuxskyper99> hi all got Jaunty server up...all is fine however some of my xp clients that are beidn the Jaunty GW can not access their VPN servers outside of the network...while other can...there are no iptable rules..just simple forwarding...and if I put the same IPs on a XP box that acts as a GW all work VPN works properly...any clues
[12:34] <hphubert> i have a problem with my tl-wn353gd wireless card in iwconfig i don't see any cards wh can help me? chipset it Realtek RTL8225
[12:35] <bazhang> hphubert, dont see anything in the forums about that; you got the chipset via the lsusb command?
[12:36] <llml_> Anyone: I tried to use update-manager to upgrade my ubuntu 8.10 to 9.04 but failed to see prompt like "new release available", any suggestion?
[12:36] <hphubert> bazhang: i read it on one page
[12:36] <vigo> How can I fix the Updates package manger so that it retrieves the security or whatever updates? is it a apt-get update or what?
[12:36] <mrwes> llml_, try update-manager -d
[12:36] <vigo> Thank you
[12:36] <vigo> oh whoops
[12:36] <bazhang> hphubert, did you run the lsusb command with the adapter plugged in?
[12:36] <llml_> mrwes: yep, that is exactly what I did
[12:37] <llml_> vigo: apt-get -f install
[12:37] <mrwes> llml_, check your software sources for what type of updates you want
[12:37] <bazhang> should be -c llml_
[12:37] <vegombrei> is there a winamp version for ubuntu?
[12:37] <bazhang> vegombrei, audacious
[12:37] <vigo> llml_:Thank you
[12:37] <mrwes> bazhang, update-manager -c ?
[12:37] <bazhang> mrwes, yep
[12:37] <hphubert> bazhang:device is plug in http://paste.ubuntu.com/172946/
[12:37] <Tyler> vigo: to set it to always get certain types of upgrades, go to System -> Administration -> Software Sources
[12:37] <mrwes> bazhang, hrmm...never used the -c flag
[12:37] <bazhang> -d is for development mrwes
[12:37] <llml_> bazhang: I'll have a try
[12:38] <mrwes> bazhang, ahh...right, that was when I was grabbing the RC
[12:38] <hphubert> bazhang: but i can"t see this device in system
[12:38] <vigo> Tyler: Thank you
[12:39] <llml_> bazhang: It didn't work as well :(
[12:40] <llml_> mrwes: Does that mean my sources are not up to date?
[12:40] <yacc> When installing from USB, should I kill the partition table or not?
[12:40] <Fox_1_> hi all
[12:40] <Fox_1_> people I have big problem with my audio card under ubuntu 9.04.
[12:40] <The_Faithful> Hi
[12:40] <carpii> yacc, depends what youre trying to achieve
[12:41] <MaxTesla> ziroday are you still here?
[12:41] <Fox_1_> the audio device is on board "nVidia Corporation MCP55 High Definition Audio" device
[12:41] <vigo> llml_: it is just the security updates and stuff, Update thing is set on Main Server and source code and stuff, I think that apt-get update /apt-get upgrade is working it out now.
[12:41] <yacc> carpii, Install ubuntu :(
[12:41] <carpii> yacc, you have a windows install you want to keep etc?
[12:42] <MaxTesla> how do i run metacity and what is the stop command?
[12:42] <carpii> or just want to format whole drive with ubuntu ?
[12:42] <The_Faithful> I wanna install the kernel of ubuntu server into my ubuntu desktop, how can I do ?
[12:42] <Fox_1_> I have read and done lots of stuff that I could find from google and forums
[12:42] <Fox_1_> please help :(
[12:42] <yacc> carpii, worse, I've downloaded the karmic netbook remix img, and installed it onto the whole USB stick, and the Acer One did not boot from it, despite me selecting USB FD as the boot target, ...
[12:42] <yacc> carpii, nope.
[12:43] <timahvo1> hi everybody
[12:43] <yacc> carpii, Windows without protection is only relevant for gaming ;)
[12:43] <mrwes> llml_, check system | admin | software sources and make sure the update tab, lower right corner is set to normal releases
[12:43] <carpii> how did you put the image into usb ?
[12:43] <bazhang> yacc, the karmic netbook remix?
[12:43] <llml_> vigo: Thanks.
[12:43] <timahvo1> how can I disable ipv6 in jaunty ?
[12:43] <Piet> Fox_1_: you have not actually stated what does not work
[12:43] <carpii> you cant tim, kernel bug
[12:43] <Fox_1_> no sound
[12:43] <Fox_1_> I have compiled and installed the alsa-driver's 1.0.20 version
[12:43] <yacc> bazhang, yep, the karmic one.
[12:43] <ranf> The_Faithful, install "linux-server"
[12:43]  * llml_ checking through the software sources
[12:43] <Fox_1_> and again no sound
[12:43] <carpii> yacc, try putting it on usb using unetbootin
[12:44] <carpii> http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[12:44] <vigo> llml_: and Tyler, Yes, the apt-get update.upgrade worked it out.
[12:44] <bazhang> yacc, there is none for karmic, at least past alpha one
[12:44] <Fox_1_> after that I have restart and the sound was worked
[12:44] <The_Faithful> ranf, OK I will try
[12:44] <Fox_1_> but after some minutes it
[12:44] <Fox_1_> 's again stoped working
[12:44] <simmerz> why can't i get UNR as an lpia image?!
[12:44] <timahvo1> carpii: was that directed at me ?
[12:44] <bazhang> yacc, at any rate, #ubuntu+1 for karmic
[12:45] <llml_> mrwes: It's set as you said.
[12:45] <yacc> bazhang, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook-remix/daily-live/current/
[12:45] <MaxTesla> how do i run metacity what is the command to activate and de activate
[12:45] <vigo> bazhang: There is already a #channel for that?
[12:45] <llml_> mrwes: Seems not the reason
[12:45] <carpii> timahvo1, yes. cant disable ipv6 in jaunty afaik
[12:45] <carpii> well, not without patching kernel anyway
[12:45] <bazhang> vigo, yep
[12:45] <vigo> Neato
[12:45] <hphubert> i have a problem with my tl-wn353gd wireless card in iwconfig i don't see any cards wh can help me? chipset it Realtek RTL8225
[12:45] <timahvo1> MaxTesla: metacity --replace
[12:45] <Fox_1_> also I have tried modprobe snd_hda_intel, but in some cases it not working, I don't know why
[12:45] <timahvo1> carpii: thanks mate
[12:45] <carpii> np
[12:45] <MaxTesla> timahvo1 ok
[12:46] <MaxTesla> timahov1 and what is the deactivate command
[12:46] <Propeng> hi everybody
[12:46] <bazhang> hphubert, please paste.ubuntu.com with the entire output of 'lsusb'
[12:46] <timahvo1> MaxTesla: compiz or whatever --replace
[12:46] <bazhang> hphubert, ie more than a single line
[12:46] <vigo> !pastebin
[12:46] <MaxTesla> timahvo1 ok
[12:46] <llml_> mrwes: I'm not using the official source. How can I check the source I'm using is up to date?
[12:47] <MaxTesla> timahvo1 no no what is the command to shut down metacity so that i can close the termina window
[12:47] <Piet> Fox_1_: what does this output (use pastebin if more two lines)? sudo lspci |grep -i audio
[12:47] <hphubert> bazhang:this card is on pci http://paste.ubuntu.com/172951/
[12:47] <Propeng> is ubuntu 9.04 supposed to boot in a minute on a 1.5 gb ram 2.6 ghz 86x 32-bit pc?
[12:47] <timahvo1> MaxTesla: I don't follow.
[12:47] <MaxTesla> timahvo1 ok
[12:47] <Fox_1_> Piet: 00:06.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP55 High Definition Audio (rev a2)
[12:47] <timahvo1> MaxTesla: if you want it detached from the terminal try metacity --replace &
[12:48] <bazhang> hphubert, please the entire output, not a single line --->paste.ubuntu.com
[12:48] <Piet> Fox_1_: and this: lspci -n|grep 00:06.1
[12:48] <MaxTesla> timahvo1 i recognize it but shouldnt there be a word after the &
[12:48] <MaxTesla> timahvo1 it worked
[12:48] <Fox_1_> 00:06.1 0403: 10de:0371 (rev a2)
[12:49] <timahvo1> MaxTesla: awesome :)
[12:49] <MaxTesla> timahvo1 no it did not work now everything is strange
[12:49] <MaxTesla> haha
[12:49] <john> hey peeps! i'm trying to dual boot, and have two menus! when i select winxp on the first menu then i have to choose again! can i make the second menu die by deleting 'stage2' in the ./boot/grub folder?
[12:49] <hphubert> bazhang:in lsusb i have got only one line
[12:49] <llml_> mrwes: ping!
[12:49] <timahvo1> MaxTesla: lol
[12:49] <MaxTesla> timahvo1 now i cant even open the old 2 terminals
[12:49] <timahvo1> MaxTesla: what is you are trying to do ?
[12:49] <bazhang> hphubert, is this usb or pci card?
[12:49] <MaxTesla> timahvo1 now i cant even move the windows or minimize things
[12:50] <hphubert> bazhang: i worte that it  is a pci card
[12:50] <Fox_1_> Piet: what that's mean?
[12:50] <MaxTesla> timahvo1 now i cant even open a new window or an internet page
[12:50] <al_paun> Hi there. Do you know how to configure a backup internet connection to switch automaticaly if the main internet connection is down?
[12:50] <timahvo1> MaxTesla: what window manager do you want to use?
[12:50] <john> anyone know their grub?
[12:50] <bazhang> hphubert, then the entire output of 'lspci' --> paste.ubuntu.com
[12:50] <john> (and willing to help me :)
[12:50] <MaxTesla> timahvo1 i just want to tunr of the metacity
[12:50] <vigo> john: Installed from ISO?
[12:50] <MaxTesla> timahvo1 how do i turn it off
[12:50] <john> vigo: huh?
[12:51] <john> vigo: ubuntu was installed from liveusb from iso....
[12:51] <vigo> john: did you download and install Ubuntu or are you using the WUBI?
[12:51] <hphubert> bazhang:http://paste.ubuntu.com/172953/
[12:51] <MaxTesla> timahvo1 i will try to shut down the computer
[12:51] <john> vigo: wubi in the past
[12:51] <Piet> Fox_1_: this is the unique PCI ID of your sound chipset: 0403: 10de:0371 (rev a2)
[12:51] <timahvo1> MaxTesla: just replace it with another window manager like compiz or xfwm with compiz --replace& or xfwm --replace &
[12:51] <john> vigo: is that the second boot?
[12:51] <Fox_1_> Piet: so, that does it say to you?
[12:51] <vigo> john: ok, maybe fix grub, let me look at the forums
[12:51] <Piet> Fox_1_: having this helps me finding out whether this chip should be working on linux
[12:51] <john> vigo: oooo i have to go
[12:52] <john> vigo thanks tho
[12:52] <Fox_1_> Piet: ohhh,  got it
[12:52] <al_paun> Do you know how to configure a backup internet connection to switch automaticaly if the main internet connection is down in ubuntu?
[12:52] <Piet> Fox_1_: by what i can tell the chip is supported since linux 2.6.25, so it should work in jaunty (2.6.28)
[12:52] <piyu> where is all fonts find in linux machine
[12:52] <elahe> hi
[12:52] <llml_> Anyone: How can I check the source (non-official) I'm using is up to date or not? I went to the http site of my source. It shows that it's last modified date is May 15th. Can I take it for granted that this source is up to date with the offical one?
[12:53] <hphubert> bazhang; i have insert 2x pci lan cards and 1x pci wlan card
[12:53] <Piet> Fox_1_: you can look those pci id's support status up here: http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx
[12:53] <domenic> hey i am having trouble fgeting modem to work, have followed the ubuntu page and installed correctdriver but i think i need to use "setserial" to make a link between something?
[12:53] <Piet> Fox_1_: i'm sorry but i cannot help further since i must go to bed
[12:53] <Piet> i've been awake for 24 hours now.
[12:53] <Fox_1_> Piet: no problem, thanks
[12:54] <piyu> please tel me where i find fonts in linux
[12:54] <bazhang> hphubert, pcmcia you mean?
[12:54] <domenic> plz help?
[12:54] <vigo> llml_:Did you try uname -r?
[12:54] <Gothfunc> hi.  how do you install a command line installation on the jaunty alt cd?  there doesn't seem to be an option
[12:54] <domenic> thers not one mate
[12:54] <llml_> vigo: You mean update-manager -r?
[12:54] <bazhang> Gothfunc, you want a minimal install?
[12:55] <Gothfunc>  aye
[12:55] <erUSUL> !minimal | Gothfunc
[12:55] <bazhang> try the 9mb minimal iso then Gothfunc
[12:55] <hphubert> bazhang: i ve got a server I insert there 2x pci lan card and 1x pci  wlan card
[12:55] <vigo> llml_: No that command shows the currently installed kernel.
[12:55] <hphubert> bazhang: i have installed only one lan card
[12:55] <kixs> When using rm -r directory it always asks if I want to remove every file/directory. Anyway to stop it from asking about every file?
[12:55] <hphubert> bazhang: i want install wlan
[12:55] <Gothfunc> ah, so it will install only the absolute essentials?  thanks :)
[12:56] <hphubert> bazhang: 2nd lan card isn' t need me
[12:56] <domenic> hey, i am trying to get modem card to work, i have installed driver but minicom is not dialing on it
[12:56] <llml_> vigo: lsb_release ?
[12:56] <domenic> can someone plz help?
[12:56] <ndan> Hi, I installed a package (squid) from its src deb. But everytime I try to dist-upgrade, apt always suggest me to upgrade it. How can I suppress that?
[12:56] <bazhang> domenic, give it some time before repeating please
[12:57] <domenic> ohh, sorry
[12:57] <domenic> i dont use irc moch
[12:57] <pawel> jest ktoś z Polski ??
[12:57] <vigo> llml_: uname -r will show you the kernel version.
[12:57] <hphubert> ja jestem
[12:57] <bazhang> pawel, #ubuntu-pl
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> !pin | ndan
[12:57] <kmdm> ndan: Maybe something like: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[12:57] <pawel> a jak wejsc na ten kanał
[12:57] <pawel> ubuntu-pl
[12:57] <bazhang> pawel, /join #ubuntu-pl
[12:58] <llml_> vigo: Yep, uname -r
[12:58] <llml_> 2.6.27-14-generic
[12:58] <pawel>  /join #ubuntu-pl
[12:58] <llml_> vigo: That what I got
[12:58]  * kmdm must learn the ubottu commands sometime :)
[12:58] <ndan> kmdm: Dr_Willis: ubottu: thank you very much!
[12:59] <jman5555> hello, for some reson I have not been able to connect wirelessly to the internet in Ubuntu 8.10. Can anyone help me?
[12:59] <muse> the jaunty network manager is abit odd.. when ever I try add a wired network connection it greys out the apply button. I manually edited /etc/networs/interfaces and my network is running but still the manager does not show it as connected?
[12:59] <vigo> llml: ok that is the kernel. let me look at the man pages for the rest of the info.
[12:59] <domenic> have you got your wireless card drivers
[12:59] <vegombrei> i have a problem .. does the new ubuntu hide folders? i cant seem to find the irssi folder in my home
[12:59] <jman5555> yes I hav my wireless drivers
[12:59] <muse> vegombrei: ctrl+h to show hidden folders
[12:59] <hphubert> bazhang do you understand me?
[12:59] <llml_> I saw somebody needed the FONT folder just now. Here we go:/usr/share/fonts
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> llml_:  or for a single user /home/USERNAME/.fonts :)
[13:00] <bazhang> hphubert, you want to install wireless on a server with one or more wireless cards?
[13:00] <vegombrei> muse: thanks
[13:00] <muse> np
[13:00] <llml_> Dr_Willis: exectly :)
[13:00] <bazhang> hphubert, this server will be a wifi hotspot?
[13:00] <domenic> jman5555, try this link: http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=2&url=http%3A%2F%2Fbeginlinux.com%2Fdesktop_training%2Fubuntu%2F1096-ubuntu-wireless-setup&ei=XFkNSq2cFZ7EtAPs983zAg&usg=AFQjCNF8MMagFjNw57UgWIoCnTZLAIPRBg&sig2=8X0GtyffJF5ElJtuIEz6LA
[13:01] <hphubert> bazhang: i want install one wireless card
[13:01] <jman5555> ok
[13:01] <Jck_true> Hey - I'm attempting to setup a proftpd server but it files when i attempt to load it..
[13:01] <Jck_true> localhost - fatal: Socket operation on non-socket
[13:01] <vigo> llml_: cat /etc/lsb-release try that one
[13:02] <llml_> vigo: lsb-release -a will be fine to show the release info.
[13:02] <hphubert> bazhang: it will connect to router
[13:02] <domenic> does anyone know about dial-up modems please
[13:02] <hphubert> bazhang: server will be a client
[13:02] <vigo> llml: okee dokee., did you see what Dr_Willis posted?
[13:03] <jman5555> thank you soooooooooo much
[13:03] <Jck_true> I've used http://www.proftpd.org/docs/configs/virtual.conf example configuration and only change the paths
[13:03] <bigjay> hi guys
[13:03] <domenic> no probs
[13:03] <jman5555> helped alot!
[13:03] <domenic> thanks
[13:03] <silentx> Hey .. I have installed the ubuntu 9.04 new fresh and i used to use 8.10 but my hard drive still EXT3 could help me to change it to EXT4
[13:03] <MaxTesla> hello i have a problem with my text is very thick
[13:03] <bazhang> hphubert, try sudo modprobe 8139too in terminal
[13:03] <MaxTesla> when i restarted all my text was very thick and heavy
[13:04] <domenic> maxtesla, do you know about what your dpi is?
[13:04] <llml_> vigo: I guess no. Where did he posted?
[13:04] <kholerabbi> silentx: you will have to do that through the 9.04 liveCD
[13:04] <MaxTesla> domenic how do i check it
[13:04] <vegombrei> MaxTesla: please define heavy?
[13:04] <rjsvaljean> VLC crashes almost immediately when trying to play a .avi. When run in the terminal it gives me this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/172961/ (something about BadAlloc, insuffecient resources). Any idea what the problem could be ? Videos were working fine a couple of days back.
[13:04] <llml_> vigo: About my problem ?
[13:04] <domenic> maxtesla, im not sure how to fix that but i believe it would have something to do qwith your screen resolution, or the dpi?
[13:04] <MaxTesla> vegombrei before the text was nice and crisp and the monitor was birghter now everything is  a bit darker and fater
[13:05] <vigo> llml_ : Dr_Willis:  llml_:  or for a single user /home/USERNAME/.fonts :)
[13:05] <silentx> kholerabbi: could you tell me how or just give me a tutorial about it ? and what is the different i will get ?
[13:05] <MaxTesla> domenic how do i check my dpi
[13:05] <domenic> maxtesla, try pressing  "auto" on your monitor by any chance does that fix it?
[13:05] <hphubert> bazhang http://paste.ubuntu.com/172963/
[13:05] <llml_> vigo: Yep for this one.
[13:05] <kholerabbi> silentx: sure see: http://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Ext4_Howto#Converting_an_ext3_filesystem_to_ext4
[13:05] <bazhang> hphubert, did you run the command? now try ifconfig  in terminal
[13:05] <silentx> THNKS :)
[13:05] <kholerabbi> silentx: I do not think you will notice a difference.
[13:06] <MaxTesla> domenic i dont have an auto
[13:06] <llml_> vigo: It's about the font folder. Not about my problem :)
[13:06] <bsusa> hello
[13:06] <bsusa> im having a big issue with my mythbuntu setup. I cannot run MythFrontend app anymore. When i click on it manually it doesnt even run. Nothing responds.
[13:06] <domenic> maxtesla, umm than im not sure, can you  define what you mean, eg: is everything big, or is it just the text?
[13:06] <hphubert> bazhang http://paste.ubuntu.com/172965/
[13:06] <llml_> vigo: Nice talking with you:) Thanks anyway:)
[13:06] <bsusa> could someone please assist me
[13:07] <MaxTesla> somenic the text is thick and the mouse is not s crisp as before
[13:07]  * llml_ supper time
[13:07] <MaxTesla> *domenic
[13:07] <vigo> llml_: You found the release info and the kernel info, I hope that helped.
[13:07] <bazhang> hphubert, did you run the sudo modprobe 8139too command?
[13:07] <domenic> can anyone help me set up my dial-up card, ive installed the linux drivers but its still not working, im not sure how to use setserial to adssign it to for example "/dev/ttyS4"
[13:07] <MaxTesla> domenic i have been reinstalling my ubuntu a million times i got some help with the graphic drivers but bahh
[13:07] <llml_> vigo: It shows I am using 8.10..
[13:07] <MaxTesla> everything is gay i am logging
[13:07] <hphubert> bazhang yes
[13:08] <kholerabbi> silentx: make sure you do not run those commands on a mounted partition- OK? that could be dangerous for your data.
[13:08] <domenic> maxtesla, yeah but what is actully "thick"
[13:08] <vigo> llml_ : Now you can search the forums in that realm or section.
[13:08] <domenic> like what do you mean?
[13:08] <silentx> :S
[13:08] <silentx> oky i was just going to do it !
[13:08] <llml_> vigo: yep, I'll have a try:)
[13:08] <silentx> brb i will restart c ya
[13:08] <bazhang> sudo ifconfig eth0 up <--try this hphubert
[13:08] <kholerabbi> silentx: liveCD :P
[13:08] <benofsky> I'm putting together a custom ubuntu distro for a charity which fix old computers and send them to africa. I'm following the guide on ubuntu.org and am up to putting the cd together. I have just run the command "sudo mksquashfs edit extract-cd/casper/filesystem.squashfs -nolzma" - It got to 100% and now is just printing lots and lots of whitespace... should I stop it. or is this normal?
[13:08] <silentx> yep ;)
[13:08] <vigo> Learning is FUN
[13:09] <domenic> please please help me with "setserial"
[13:09] <bazhang> err belay that hphubert
[13:09] <llml_> vigo: Yep:) By the way, you are from the U.S.?
[13:09] <bazhang> hphubert, try sudo dhclient eth0
[13:09] <Shapeshifter> Problem: When I launch skype in jaunty with all updates installed, it immediately crashes with a single message "Aborted" on the command line. I already tried: isntalling from medibuntu, from the skype repo and from the skype page and deleting ~/.Skype. All suggestions on the forums on how to fix this didn't work for me. Can you please help me?
[13:09] <vigo> llml: Yes I am, for now.
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> benofsky:  id let it run for a while.. making a swiashfs can take some time
[13:10] <benofsky> alright. thanks Dr_Willis
[13:10] <domenic> \nice
[13:10] <domenic> \nick
[13:10] <hphubert> bazhang http://paste.ubuntu.com/172967/
[13:10] <domenic> any1
[13:11] <bazhang> hphubert, that is the nic listed in your lspci, there is no wifi card showing up there at all
[13:11] <silentx> kholerabbi: i think what is need just to run liveCD write the command "tune2fs -O extents,uninit_bg,dir_index /dev/DEV" then the command "e2fsck -fD /dev/DEV" Right ?
[13:11] <bazhang> hphubert, are you hot-plugging the pcmcia card?
[13:12] <vigo> domenic: Have you bookmarked this?> http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi
[13:12] <kholerabbi> silentx- yep except replace DEV with your filesystemm (e.g, mine was dsb3)
[13:12] <hphubert> bazhang it is insert in pci
[13:12] <hphubert> bazhang i haven' t got a pcmcia slot
[13:13] <bazhang> hphubert, are you hotplugging it?
[13:13] <bazhang> hphubert, it is not showing up in your listed devices
[13:13] <kholerabbi> silentX: *sdb3 - check out system > administration > disk partitioner for more info on your partitions
[13:13] <hphubert> bazhang but i insert this device
[13:13] <vigo> domenic: or this> https://help.ubuntu.com/
[13:13] <jerroome> hello
[13:13] <linduxed> lets assume the following: i have a server with a 250Gb drive and buy a 500Gb that i clone the smaller drive onto (with a tool called clonezilla). Because the 500Gb drive is a clone of the 250Gb one, the large drive only has room for 250Gb.
[13:13] <linduxed> Now, I need to resize the /home/ partition on the large drive, but it is imperative that no data is lost. I will backup the thing, but I dont want to end up having a corrupted drive/unusable system. Any way to do this?
[13:14] <silentx> loooooolz i got lost with dsb :S
[13:14] <silentx> oky i will now :D
[13:14] <bazhang> hphubert, after start up? that device is normally a pcmcia card
[13:14] <jerroome> can someone give me a hint how I can partition the system onto 2 disks with preseed configuration ?
[13:14] <vigo> !mirror
[13:15] <vigo> whoops
[13:15] <hphubert> bazhang what can i do now?
[13:15] <jerroome> I mean for example 3 partitions /boot, /usr and / on /dev/sda and /home and /tmp on /dev/sdb ....
[13:15] <kholerabbi> jerome: what is preseed?
[13:16] <vigo> linduxed and jerroome: You could use LVM striping
[13:16] <yinlong> i want to know what are in the /usr?
[13:16] <silentx> as i have here EXT3 >> /dev/sda1 -- Extended /dev/sda2 -- linux swap >> /dev/sda5 "" i think my target is sda1""
[13:16] <silentx> Right ?
[13:16] <linduxed> vigo: ??? whats that, never heard o it befor
[13:17] <kholerabbi> silentx: sounds like it. does the size look right?
[13:17] <Jack_Sparrow> !files > yinlong
[13:18] <silentx> The size of EXT3 "/dev/sda1" == 35.70 GiB
[13:18] <silentx> and i have 40 GB HD
[13:19] <kholerabbi> :P then go for it
[13:19] <jerroome> preseed is debian's and ubuntu preconfiguration file for automatic installation
[13:19] <bigjay> how can i see the transfer rate of a file copy with nautilus?
[13:19] <hphubert> i will be later
[13:19] <jrib> bigjay: what version of ubuntu?
[13:20] <anas> proplem with usb in virtualbox ... any ideas ??
[13:20] <vigo> linduxed: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Debian/LVM <that explains it, sorta
[13:20] <silentx> cool i will back up my files 1st
[13:20] <silentx> brb
[13:20] <jrib> anas: usually you have to say what the problem is, not just say there is a problem.  You may want to try #vbox though
[13:20] <gfdsa> .
[13:20] <laxa8831> howdy
[13:20] <jrib> !pm | bigjay
[13:20] <Jack_Sparrow> anas Did you get the vbox program online or apt-get.. the online version has usb
[13:20] <laxa8831> anyone here any any issues with the souce pane for rhythmbox?
[13:21] <jrib> bigjay: nautilus should show you a dialog box with the transfer rate when you copy large files
[13:21] <sannysanoff> Hello! I created USB image ('dd' the whole device /dev/sdc) -> /tmp/sdc.img  .. How do I mount only one partition (former sdc1) from that image? Thanks in advance!
[13:21] <domenic> vigo, have now :P
[13:21] <anas> jack_sparrow ; apt-get non-ose
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> sannysanoff:  i saw how todo that in a magazine artical just the other day
[13:21] <Huufarted> Folks, I have a problem.  Num lock *IS* on, but I cannot type using my keypad.  I get nothing when I try to
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> sannysanoff:  you use the 'offset'  option of mount.
[13:21] <jrib> Huufarted: if you hold down 4, does your mouse pointer move?
[13:21] <Jack_Sparrow> anas I didnt know they added the usb version, but try vbox just the same
[13:21] <sannysanoff> Dr_Willis, will look, thanks
[13:21] <jrib> bigjay: please stop pming me.  Speak in the channel
[13:21] <xub> hi, how do i program terminal to display a certain something if i type a command?
[13:22] <Huufarted> jrib, you're good sir!  Now how do I turn that off?
[13:22] <vigo> domenic: Did you get that link I posted?
[13:22] <xub> or if i type a given something
[13:22] <coz_> xub   a certain something?
[13:22] <jrib> Huufarted: ctrl-shift-numlock (also some accessibility option in mouse preferences dialog)
[13:22] <Huufarted> jrib:  you rock!  Thanks brother.
[13:22] <bigjay> jrib: can this be enabled for all files/copy processes?
[13:22] <Dr_Willis> sannysanoff:   use 'fdisk -u -l driveimagefile'
[13:23] <xub> coz_: for example: IF i type 'sudo hurr' THEN print "DURR" ?
[13:23] <jrib> bigjay: I don't know
[13:23] <laxa8831> because rhytmbox doesn't have a source box, like it should?
[13:23] <Dr_Willis> sannysanoff:  find the  start block of the partition you want. (mutiply that by 512)  and then use  mount -t whatever -o loop,ro,offset=###### imagename /media/test
[13:23] <coz_> xub,  mm  I think I am confused by that :)   I am not sure  it took me a while to figure out to eliminate the  "password for user" thing :)
[13:23] <Jack_Sparrow> xub that is not a ubuntu support question.. thanks.. there are channels for #bash and the others
[13:23] <laxa8831> and when i remove and reinstall it using add/remove, it doesnt seem to work, ie all settings are rememberd and songs still there
[13:24] <anas> i have that usb device that is not working with vbox ,,it is a usb cable of joinmax robots http://roboexp.com ...  i tried it in mac with vbox and worked fine... any ideas ??
[13:24] <Dr_Willis> sannysanoff:  that was in  the Feb issue of Linux Pro Magazine in the 'ask klaus' section :)
[13:24] <xub> coz_, Jack_Sparrow: thanks, i'll try it there :)
[13:24] <anas> i have that usb device that is not working with vbox ,,it is a usb cable of joinmax robots http://roboexp.com ...  i tried it in mac with vbox and worked fine... any ideas ??
[13:24] <Jack_Sparrow> !repeat > anas
[13:24] <anas> i have that usb device that is not working with vbox ,,it is a usb cable of joinmax robots http://roboexp.com ...  i tried it in mac with vbox and worked fine... any ideas ??
[13:24] <Jack_Sparrow> anas STOP IT
[13:24] <Dr_Willis> anas:  useing the virtualbox from the repso? or from the box web site?
[13:25] <bazhang> anas, dont repeat so often
[13:25] <Dr_Willis> anas:  for usb - you musst use the one from the web site.
[13:25] <vigo> laxa8831: Have you removed or purged it?
[13:25] <domenic> vigo, yes and it didnt help sorry
[13:25] <kixs> Any idea why when I SSH into ubuntu it gives me a $ prompt instead of asfd@asfd:$
[13:25] <laxa8831> vigo: yeah, but all settings remain. do you mean remving and then adding it again? that's what i've been doing
[13:25] <anas> Dr_Willis : not working
[13:25] <vigo> domenic: Are you using a RAID volume?
[13:26] <Dr_Willis> kixs:  check the .profile or .bashrc or .bash_profile and how its setting the prompt.
[13:26] <domenic> vigo, ive installed all the drivers and such for myy card but i dont know what /dev/ttyS? it is
[13:26] <Dr_Willis> anas:  sory to hear that. i would say check the vbox docs and tweak with the usb configuation stuff.
[13:26] <Jack_Sparrow> laxa8831 Use purge with apt-get or synaptic
[13:26] <vigo> laxa8831: Yes, purge it and apt-get it.
[13:26] <domenic> vigo, ive installed all the drivers and such for myy card but i dont know what /dev/ttyS? it is
[13:26] <kixs> thxs dr_willis - It simply annoying as I cant press up arrow for instance :P
[13:26] <domenic> whoops
[13:27] <Dr_Willis> kixs:  huh? thats for the command line history.. You sure you are not using sh instead ofbash? try eccho $SHELL
[13:27] <anas> Dr_Willis:   this usb device is the only problem ,,,other devices works fine..
[13:27] <Dr_Willis> anas:  sounds like a job for the Virtualbox forums.. (if they have any)
[13:27] <Jack_Sparrow> domenic go to a terminal and type dmesg | grep ttyS
[13:28] <anas> Dr_Willis: ok,,, thanks
[13:28] <domenic> [ 1868.387515] ttyS3: LSR safety check engaged!
[13:28] <domenic> [ 1904.757063] ttyS3: LSR safety check engaged!
[13:28] <domenic> [ 1907.760219] ttyS3: LSR safety check engaged!
[13:28] <domenic> [ 1908.761284] ttyS3: LSR safety check engaged!
[13:28] <domenic> [ 1909.762328] ttyS3: LSR safety check engaged!
[13:28] <domenic> [ 1941.502852] ttyS3: LSR safety check engaged!
[13:28] <FloodBot1> domenic: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:28] <vigo> domenic: This page sorta explains those errors, http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0607.1/0718.html
[13:28] <laxa8831> vigo & mr sparrow: ahum. turns out i needed to press f9....
[13:28] <laxa8831> cheers anyway
[13:29] <pawel> #ubuntu-pl
[13:29] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Does anyone know what to do if Vista does not boot after install?
[13:30] <domenic> vigo, sorry i cant work it out, i dont really understand much of that
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> CoJaBo-Aztec:  you mean vista does not boot after you install 'ubuntu' ?
[13:30] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Dr_Willis: Yes
[13:30] <domenic> CoJaBo-Aztec, use the vista install cd and do a startup recovery
[13:30] <CoJaBo-Aztec> domenic: Dont have one of those, unfortunately.
[13:30] <benofsky> Dr_Willis, it's being doing the whitespace thing for like 20-30 minutes now
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> CoJaBo-Aztec:  You do see vista in the grub menu entries?
[13:30] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Dr_Willis: Yes.
[13:31] <domenic> CoJaBo-Aztec> then boot vista then install do the dual boot from there
[13:31] <benofsky> Dr_Willis, this is actually after it reached 100% btw (actually it got to 101% but w/e :))
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> benofsky:  how much cpu ya got on that machine?
[13:31] <benofsky> 2.4ghz
[13:31] <benofsky> dual core - but it's in a vm
[13:31] <benofsky> 2gb ram...
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> benofsky:  well it is doing some work..but it may be hung.. NOt sure what to tell ya..
[13:31] <benofsky> hmm
[13:31] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Dr_Willis: When I select it, is says "Starting up...", but just stays there.
[13:31] <domenic> CoJaBo-Aztec, ohh your up a creek without a paddle unless its on a different HDD
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> benofsky:  that swuashfs stuff is trying to swuash it real good. :)
[13:32] <benofsky> lol
[13:32] <CoJaBo-Aztec> domenic: Any way to get it to boot?
[13:32] <benofsky> I'll give it another 30 minutes if it's still going I think I'll cancel it
[13:32] <benofsky> thanks though
[13:32] <Dr_Willis> CoJaBo-Aztec:  so wiaht is vista doing when you select boot fromt he grub menu?
[13:32] <francescone> helloooo
[13:32] <francescone> !list
[13:32] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Dr_Willis: It says "Starting up...", and just stays there.
[13:33] <vigo> I am going to practice Tux Typing now, Thank you kindly and all have a fantastic moment.
[13:33] <Dr_Willis> CoJaBo-Aztec:  i would have to say check in #windows
[13:33] <francescone> what?not sharing fuck off
[13:34] <bazhang> francescone, no language here
[13:35] <domenic> CoJaBo-Aztec, not sure, hang on
[13:35] <Dr_Willis> shareing what? whats to share.. its all at web sites..
[13:35] <Dr_Willis> Not like theres much Linux warez :P
[13:35] <laxa8831> hi again
[13:36] <laxa8831> turns out i was wrong
[13:36] <laxa8831> but purging rhythmbox and installing it again still leaves all settings behind
[13:36] <domenic> CoJaBo-Aztec, by the looks no, but it is definate ly doable if you can get your hands on a disk
[13:36] <Dr_Willis> laxa8831:  correct.. removing system packages does NOT NOT NOT affect the users settings.
[13:36] <domenic> NOW I NEED SOMEONE TO WALK ME THROUGH TRYING TO GET MY DRIVERS RIGHT\
[13:37] <laxa8831> ok then, could it be the user packages that are stopping it working properly?
[13:37] <Jack_Sparrow> domenic Lose the caps please
[13:37] <domenic> err sorry..
[13:37] <kQ> anybody having ATI graphics card problems?
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> laxa8831:  if you mean user 'settings' make a new user.. see if it works for them
[13:37] <laxa8831> willis: nice
[13:38] <domenic> can anyone help me set up my dial-up card, ive installed the linux drivers but its still not working, im not sure how to use setserial to adssign it to for example "/dev/ttyS4"
[13:38] <jrib> domenic: you need to give more details...
[13:38] <Jack_Sparrow> domenic I suggest you ask your question with enough details needed to answer it. Like which ubuntu release and which video card chipset etc
[13:38] <KingKimi> bash: export: `10000': not a valid identifier
[13:38] <KingKimi> bash: export: `10000': not a valid identifier
[13:38] <KingKimi> bash: export: `1000000': not a valid identifier
[13:38] <KingKimi>  whenever  i open terminal, i get this message @ the top.. how to get rid of it ?
[13:38] <FloodBot1> KingKimi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:39] <Jack_Sparrow> !dialup
[13:39] <A_I_> what's the 'apt' command to get the changelog of a non-installed package ?
[13:39] <jrib> KingKimi: does it happen with a fresh new user?
[13:39] <domenic> jrib, i have installed modem using the conexant dell hybrid driver but i cant get it to work, like it said installed /dev/modem but if i put thatinto minicom it dosent work
[13:39] <KingKimi> jrib, No
[13:40] <jrib> KingKimi: find out what file is responsible in your user's ~.  Start with ~/.bashrc and ~/.profile
[13:40] <jrib> A_I_: aptitude changelog PACKAGE
[13:40] <KingKimi> jrib, i tried to increase the history's capacity
[13:40] <jrib> KingKimi: pastebin
[13:40] <KingKimi> jrib, what paste bin ???
[13:40] <jrib> !doesn't work | domenic
[13:40] <jrib> !pastebin | KingKimi
[13:40] <rjsvaljean> No ones replied to my querry yet so I'm repeating myself. VLC seems unable to play .avi s(or .mkvs for that matter.) Gives me this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/172961/ when run from terminal. MPlayer gives something similar : http://paste.ubuntu.com/172970/. Some one please help. Video playback was working fine a couple of days back. I dunno what broke it.
[13:41] <KingKimi> jrgp, dont sent !pastebin
[13:41] <A_I_> jrgp I get E: smbldap-tools is not an official Ubuntu package, cannot display its changelog.
[13:41] <KingKimi> jrgp, sorry.. not you
[13:41] <KingKimi> jrib, i know what pastebin is ..
[13:41] <A_I_> isn't there an apt-SOMETHING cmd ?
[13:41] <KingKimi> jrib, why did you send that ?
[13:41] <jrib> KingKimi: ok then pastebin what you did...
[13:41] <Dr_Willis> KingKimi:  sounds like a typo in what you changed.
[13:41] <jrib> A_I_: not that I know of
[13:41] <KingKimi> jrib, isnt it above ??
[13:41] <benofsky> Dr_Willis, I just went ahead and ctrl-ced it. and am gonna try do the rest :P - sudo mkisofs -D -r -V "$IMAGE_NAME" -cache-inodes -J -l -b isolinux/isolinux.bin -c - do I need to repalce $IMAGE_NAME here?
[13:41] <A_I_> ok thanks
[13:42] <jrib> KingKimi: no...
[13:42] <KingKimi> bash: export: `10000': not a valid identifier bash: export: `10000': not a valid identifier
[13:42] <KingKimi> jrib, three lines like this
[13:42] <Dr_Willis> benofsky:  that command is assuminb you actually have that $IMAGE_NAME veriable set beforhand..
[13:42] <jrib> KingKimi: pastebin the contents of the file you edited
[13:42] <Jack_Sparrow> domenic Here is how I setup my dial up modem long ago.. it may help  http://paste.ubuntu.com/172986/
[13:42] <Dr_Willis> benofsky:   proberly from some earlier example line. you could use a filename I guess.
[13:42] <benofsky> as an environment variable Dr_Willis ?
[13:42] <KingKimi> KingKimi, i tried to edit the history command's capacity
[13:42] <benofsky> ok thanks
[13:42] <benofsky> what will the filename be?
[13:42] <KingKimi> jrib, i tried to edit the history command's capacity
[13:42] <Dr_Willis> benofsky:  Yes..  echo $IMAGE_NAME
[13:43] <ikonia> KingKimi: "hitory" is just an alias of fc
[13:43] <jrib> KingKimi: yeah, I got that.  Well that's your issue.  So either fix it or pastebin it so I can tell you how to fix it
[13:43] <Shapeshifter> Dammit. This is so frustrating. None of the voip software I tried is working. skype just crashes isntantly, ekiga freezes when hanging up and it doesn't echo sound nor video, qutecom crashes when choosing the webcam... This is insane. I need this to work
[13:43] <Dr_Willis> benofsky:  ive no idea what the name should be. proberly mentioned inthe docs on how to do what you are doing.
[13:43] <KingKimi> ikonia, ?? what is "hitory" i dont knowwhat is "hitory"
[13:43] <benofsky> ok thanks again Dr_Willis !
[13:43] <KingKimi> jrib, WHAT to paste ?
[13:43] <ikonia> KingKimi: you said you tried to edit the history command's capacity
[13:43] <bazhang> KingKimi, history
[13:43] <jrib> KingKimi: THE FILE YOU EDITED
[13:43] <KingKimi> jrgp, WHERE is that file ?
[13:44] <KingKimi> jrgp, sorry. not you :(
[13:44] <KingKimi> jrib, which file ?
[13:44] <domenic> typing dmesg | grep ttyS
[13:44] <domenic>  only displays some stuff about ttyS3 i need to make a symbolic link between my modem and like /dev/ttyS5 or whatever i think , thats what im asking for help with
[13:44] <ikonia> KingKimi: YOU edited it, which file did you edit ?
[13:44] <jrib> KingKimi: "i tried to edit the history command's capacity" How did you do that?
[13:44] <KingKimi> ikonia, someone here gave me a command ..
[13:44] <ikonia> KingKimi: what command
[13:45] <Jack_Sparrow> domenic did you see the link I gave you
[13:45] <domenic> yup
[13:45] <KingKimi> ikonia, jrib echo "export HISTSIZE 5000" >> ~/.bashrc
[13:45] <ikonia> KingKimi: remove HISTSIZE 5000 from ~/.bashrc then
[13:45] <Jack_Sparrow> domenic It spells it out specifically
[13:45] <Dr_Willis> this is when itpays to learn the FUNdamentals.. not just do commands people suggest...
[13:46] <KingKimi> ikonia, is that a folder ?
[13:46] <jrib> KingKimi: edit your ~/.bashrc and change "HISTSIZE 5000" to "HISTSIZE=5000"
[13:46] <KingKimi> *file ?
[13:46] <ikonia> KingKimi: no - it's a file in your home directory,
[13:46] <domenic> jack_sparrow, i know i did it it comes back with this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/172989/
[13:46] <KingKimi> jrib, where is that file ?
[13:46] <KingKimi> ikonia, ok
[13:46] <ikonia> KingKimi: it's in ~ - your home directory
[13:46] <axisys> what is the command to reset gnome settings?
[13:46] <jrib> KingKimi: ~/.bashrc .  ~ means /home/YOUR_USERNAME
[13:46] <terrestre> there's any  disadvantage in audio setting by installing ubuntustudio video and graphics apps?
[13:47] <station6> anyone can help me with my wireless? It is all installed and scanning but when I connect to a network it goes to 0%
[13:47] <station6> and then re-associates every 10 seconds or so
[13:47] <Jack_Sparrow> domenic did you even try to create the ln for your ttyS3
[13:47] <KingKimi> jrib, i did that.. thnx
[13:48] <terrestre> station6,  you need to say what release are you using
[13:48] <station6> I have had this problem on jaunty and on intrepid, using ath9k
[13:48] <domenic> jack_sparrow, could you please explain,
[13:48] <station6> i also have kernel 2.6.27-30rc5 i have tired
[13:48] <station6> and i installed the backports and wicd network manager
[13:48] <domenic> jack_sparrow, all i did was install the hsf driver
[13:49] <station6> cannot make it work
[13:49] <KingKimi> hplaserjet1020 is not working ... i have hplip.. it asked me to install plugin when i plugged for the first time... but it still wont print.. but it just says that printing has finished :P ?  ??? :(
[13:49] <domenic> jack _sparrow, it said: Modem driver should be installed and available on /dev/modem.
[13:49] <domenic> If not, your modem may not be supported.
[13:49] <Jack_Sparrow> domenic You said" you only needed help with symlink.. that page tells you how to do it for ttyS5, do the same but for your ttyS3..
[13:50] <station6> I have tried many things and done a ton of reasarch but im not getting anywhere
[13:50] <ahills> on successful login to jaunty server i was presented with information on packages that needed updating etc.. this has now gone, what application or script displays this info please?
[13:50] <Jack_Sparrow> domenic most of those softmodems are horrible junk.  You should at least get a real hardware modem if you are going touse a dialup
[13:51] <Xcell> zoom makes a great serial modem for linux.
[13:51] <domenic> jack_sparrow, can you suggest a cheap one?
[13:52] <Jack_Sparrow> domenic I went with a xircom pcmcia for the laptop and an airlink external on another
[13:52] <hi365> does ubuntu support the Intel® SCH US15W XL ? (nettop chipset)
[13:52] <Jack_Sparrow> $25
[13:52] <station6> anyone?
[13:52] <codeshepherd> what are the advantages of using ubuntu over debian on a server ?
[13:52] <terrestre> ahills, sudo aptitude update
[13:52] <Jack_Sparrow> codeshepherd Try #ubuntu-server or #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:53] <CoJaBo-Aztec> domenic: Ok, I did find the Vista disc.
[13:53] <ahills> terrestre: im looking for a script or application that displays just the info i.e if packageas are up to date or if n are out of date
[13:54] <Gamarok__> how can i convert video into other formats i mean what tool would i require in linux
[13:54] <Jack_Sparrow> ahills Out of date as compared to what.. the lates release or just updated to our repo version
 okay put it in then boot fromit and select "startup repair
[13:54] <Dr_Willis> Gamarok__:  mencoder, ffmpeg, or front ends to those tools like winff, avidumex,
[13:54] <Jack_Sparrow> !info ffmpeg
[13:54] <domenic> jack_sparrow, i would like an internal one , do you know of any?
[13:55] <Pici> ahills: I believe you're talking about the motd that is shown when you login to the server. see man motd.tail to see what scripts generate this information.
[13:55] <ahills> Pici: this sounds exactly what i was looking for  thank you so much
[13:55] <station6> anyone can help me with ath9k on jaunty?
[13:55] <ranf> !info update-motd | ahills
[13:55] <Jack_Sparrow> domenic internals are much more hit and miss even when they say they are linux comp.. they often want you to build or compile your own driver..  externals, will almost alwasy work out of the box
[13:56] <domenic> oaky kewl
[13:56] <IHS_Intern> I've restored an image of ubuntu copied from a ~9.6GB drive to a ~9.3GB HD. I'm figuring it's going to have some issues, how can I check to see if swap is enabled or giving errors?
[13:57] <KingKimi> hplaserjet1020 is not working ... i have hplip.. it asked me to install plugin when i plugged for the first time... but it still wont print.. but it just says that printing has finished :P ?  ??? :(
[13:57] <domenic> jack_sparrow, im not sure but i did a setserial earlier on ttyS3 but didnt really know how to use, i think this may be issue? do you know
[13:57] <Gamarok__> i cant seem to find winff and avidumex in synapctic
[13:57] <Jack_Sparrow> domenic No idea what you did earlier..
[13:57] <Dr_Willis> !find winff
[13:58] <Jack_Sparrow> !find winff
[13:58] <Xcell> !avidemux
[13:58] <Jack_Sparrow> !info winff
[13:58] <Dr_Willis> !find avid
[13:58] <edl2203> Good Morning everI need help with my sound card, everything seems to be weird, I followed some instructions in some foruns and I got that feeling that I have install too much stuff. I really would like to uninstall everything about the sound cards and install again. Can anyone help
[13:58] <Pici> Xcell: I think you mean avidemux
[13:58] <Gnea> !info avidemux
[13:58] <Dr_Willis> Gamarok__:  look again. :)
[13:58] <domenic> jack_sparrow, okay
[13:58] <Xcell> ya
[13:58] <station6> how can you see a log of what your network card is doing when connecting to a network
[13:58] <station6> for wireless
[13:58] <Gnea> station6: tcpdump
[13:59] <plundra> Anyone experienced firefox forgetting a file handler? (In intrepid). When I first start the browser, and click a link it suggests to open with xpdf or save, which is what I want. But if I open it once, and then click the _same_ link again, there is no suggestion on what to open with.
[13:59] <station6> says no suitible device found
[13:59] <Jack_Sparrow> domenic I have picked up several external dialup modems at the thrift shops for $5
[13:59] <station6> plundra i think there was just an update for that?
[14:00] <plundra> station6: I checked for updates today, there was none available (for firefox, that is. And any of the small other updates didn't help either)
[14:00] <Gnea> station6: man tcpdump  <-- tells you how to use it
[14:00] <station6> thansk
[14:00] <plundra> station6: Do you have a package-revision or something?
[14:00] <domenic> okay,sweet
[14:01] <jimcooncat> Jack_Sparrow: you going to start a call center?
[14:01] <plundra> Or bug-number or whatever.
[14:01] <edl2203> Good Morning everyone need help with my sound card, everything seems to be weird, I followed some instructions in some foruns and I got that feeling that I have install too much stuff. I really would like to uninstall everything about the sound cards and install again. Can anyone help
[14:01] <station6> I am in jaunty but i dont know why that would make a difference
[14:01] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Does anyone know what to do if Vista does not boot after installing Kubuntu?
[14:02] <Dr_Willis> CoJaBo-Aztec:  boot vista cd.. use fixmbr/fixboot commands.. and ask in #windows if those fail
[14:02] <station6> i just installed an update last night that was along those lines how do you check the apt log?
[14:02] <station6> I will look for you
[14:02] <Gamarok__> thanks Dr_Willis
[14:02] <domenic> jack_sparrow, would a USB external modem do?
[14:02] <Gnea> !dualboot | CoJaBo-Aztec
[14:02] <domenic> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[14:04] <edl2203> Good Morning everyone, I need help with my sound card, everything seems to be weird, I followed some instructions in some foruns and I got that feeling that I have install too much stuff. I really would like to uninstall everything about the sound cards and install again. Can anyone help
[14:04] <dim0> hmmm is it normal kde behaviour, when I logged out and activated gnome KDE4D is using one core of my PC 100% ? :) was slightly shocked when i checked uptime and ps
[14:05] <terrestre> !kubuntu | dim0
[14:05] <Wout> Hello everyone, i'm a newbie to ubuntu but i'm here to ask a question, is there a kind of wine project for mac programs ?
[14:06] <station6> how do you talk at people?
[14:06] <Xcell> Wout-  wineHQ maybe?
[14:06] <Pici> Wout: No, there is not.
[14:06] <edl2203> Good Morning everyone, I need help with my sound card, everything seems to be weird, I followed some instructions in some foruns and I got that feeling that I have install too much stuff. I really would like to uninstall everything about the sound cards and install again. Can anyone help
[14:06] <station6> edl2203: are you suing alsa?
[14:07] <edl2203> dont know
[14:07] <station6> what is wrong you just have no sound?
[14:07] <oshua86> I am trying to install ubuntu 9.04 from scratch, how can I select to encrypt my whole drive?
[14:07] <station6> type aplay -l
[14:07] <edl2203> everything is too loud
[14:07] <edl2203> cant turn down the mic
[14:07] <Wout> @pici, i think it is not that difficult. Mac is builed on a freebsd kernel.
[14:07] <edl2203> the sound is scratchy
[14:08] <station6> alsamixer          in termial
[14:08] <Titan8990> Wout: they do use a lot of freebsd code but the kernel is a proprietary apple one
[14:08] <kholerabbi> wout: Nope. Their is no such project that does for Mac what Wine does for Windows programs
[14:08] <station6> see what version you have
[14:08] <BeGu> Wout:  there's at least sheepshaver
[14:08] <edl2203> let me try that
[14:08] <kholerabbi> Wout: I believe there is some way to do this if you are running Linux on mac hardware though.. not sure about this
[14:09] <cwillu> Titan8990, backwards, the kernel is mostly freebsd (and they make it available), but everything else about the system above the core utilities and the kernel is proprietary
[14:09] <cwillu> Titan8990, I could be mistaken though :p
[14:10] <Dr_Willis> and the big hype about OpenDarwin seems to have.. well..  faded away
[14:10] <Shapeshifter> Problem: When I launch skype in jaunty with all updates installed, it immediately crashes with a single message "Aborted" on the command line. I already tried: isntalling from medibuntu, from the skype repo and from the skype page and deleting ~/.Skype. All suggestions on the forums on how to fix this didn't work for me. Can you please help me?
[14:10] <Wout> kholerabbi: I run mac on a intel pc (p4). So it must be possible, maybe a project that i can make XD
[14:10] <Dr_Willis> But Ubuntu keeps chugging along.. getting better and bettereer  :)
[14:10] <Xcell> betterererer
[14:10] <Sufixx> Hi! How can I get my laptop's card reader working? (asus f3e) - lspci prints it's a ricoh card reader - http://wklej.org/id/91009/ , I installed backports modules, and loaded these: ricoh_mmc mmc_block sdricoh_cs sdhci_pci sdhci - but nothing works
[14:11] <station6> suffix: what ubuntu version?
[14:11] <vegombrei> hi is there a way to tell ubuntu to switch audio from spraker output to bluetooth headphones ?
[14:11] <Sufixx> jaunty
[14:11] <jorgerosa> Wout:  i've found bad news. sorry. "The license agreement for Mac OS X explicitly forbids running the OS on any machine."
[14:11] <Xcell> well: in the last 2 weeks..ive downloaded 8 top distros..and ubuntu is #1
[14:12] <Sufixx> it used to work in feisty or gusty
[14:12] <icewaterman> when i press backspace in xchat or other apps when entering something into an input field, the screen flashes
[14:12] <station6> vegombrei: its possible but its a huge pain you can find some guides on the forums
[14:12] <oshua86> how can I do a full disk encrypt instalation?
[14:12] <Dr_Willis> icewaterman:  yes.. its flashing instead of beeping that you just did somthing silly. :)
[14:12] <Wout> jorgerosa: Not verything is illegal XD
[14:12] <MaxTesla> anyone in here that knows anything about atigraphic divers
[14:12] <station6> sufixx: i have an asus laptop and it just works, very strange :/
[14:12] <pronoy> anyone know about any downloader which may pause the download and restart from the same time under linux ? sort of similar to DAP ?
[14:12] <erUSUL> !ati
[14:12] <MaxTesla> who knows anything about installing ATI graphic drivers for Ubuntu 9.04
[14:13] <edl2203> guys I think that solved the loud and scratchy sound, also was able to turn down the mic, thanks for that
[14:13] <erUSUL> pronoy: i use dwonload them all firefox estension
[14:13] <icewaterman> Dr_Willis, how can i get rid of it? it happens if i press backspace when there is nothing to delete
[14:13] <edl2203> but
[14:13] <erUSUL> !info d4x | pronoy
[14:13] <icewaterman> but it is kinda annoying.
[14:13] <edl2203> cant change the login sound
[14:13] <erUSUL> pronoy: wget can resume downloads in terminla
[14:13] <station6> edl2203: np
[14:13] <MaxTesla> ok will check out the link
[14:13] <tokyoahead> hi... I am installing ubuntu on a new laptop which already has vista home installed in parallel. after installing from the CD-Rom, I reboot the machine but after the red progressbar, the screen is only slightly flickering in black.... what can I do?
[14:13] <jorgerosa> Wout:  That means you are forbidden to run Mac OS in other machines. Anyways, try read this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=440601&page=1
[14:13] <MaxTesla> who ever is in control of ubottu thanks
[14:13] <Dr_Willis> icewaterman:  why are you pressing backspace if theres nothign to delete? :)
[14:14] <Dr_Willis> icewaterman:  the gnome settings have options for the system bell.
[14:14] <pronoy> erUSUL: debian packages ?
[14:14] <icewaterman> Dr_Willis, ok, i'll see whether i can disable it
[14:14] <pronoy> erUSUL and does d4x come for intrepid ?
[14:14] <station6> edl2203: im sure you can find how to change it on google
[14:14] <erUSUL> !info d4x intrepid | pronoy
[14:14] <Wout> jorgerosa: thank you
[14:15] <edl2203> station, what about np
[14:15] <zlobniyy> hi
[14:15] <jorgerosa> Wout:  yw. But i've found what seems some light, here: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/17209/
[14:15] <station6> edl2203: means no problem
[14:16] <IHS_Intern> god, I love dd.
[14:16] <edl2203> station6, you see, I tried that, it just wont change, it changes the name, but the sound is still the same
[14:16] <tokyoahead> hi... I am installing ubuntu on a new laptop which already has vista home installed in parallel. after installing from the CD-Rom, I reboot the machine but after the red progressbar, the screen is only slightly flickering in black.... what can I do?
[14:16] <station6> edl2203: I think its protected
[14:16] <icewaterman> Dr_Willis, thx, this worked
[14:16] <station6> edl2203: I don't know how to change it
[14:17] <edl2203> me too
[14:17]  * IHS_Intern goes back to making BIOS update disks for the 50 or so Dell GX150s
[14:17] <edl2203> couldnt delete the file
[14:17] <Wout> jorgerosa: So they are building a wine like for mac programs. Very intresting
[14:17] <edl2203> either
[14:17] <vr3m> i have a laptop, and i want to connect a 2-nd display with ubuntu 8.04. Howcan i do that?
[14:17] <station6> edl2203: can you do root and then do "rm filename"?
[14:17] <jorgerosa> Wout:  very, indeed. :)
[14:17] <user1> i bought Asus 1000he with preloaded xp . i have downloaded wubi installer and created a virtual drive and mounted the iso on that.how should i change the boot.ini file
[14:18] <edl2203> sure, hold on
[14:18] <station6> edl2203: but as i said i don't really know
[14:18] <Jack_Smirnoff> user1 Please read and understand the differences between a full regular install and a wubi install
[14:18] <Jack_Smirnoff> !wubi
[14:19] <Wout> jorgerosa: It would be very nice because al the 'pro' software is also made for mac. Like adobe, office, mixing programs, etc    It would make linux more 'pro' then it is now!
[14:19] <nmvictor> any one know of a linux video converter that would convert .DAT to .ogm or .DAT to .avi?
[14:19] <zoobab01> ffmpeg
[14:19] <zoobab01> what kind of format is .DAT?
[14:20] <station6> user1: why dont you just mount the cd with daemon tools and then press install inside windows it will do EVERYTHING for you
[14:20] <station6> dat is what your camera does
[14:20] <station6> hard drive camera
[14:20] <user1> Jack_Smirnoff: i did go through but after downloading the installer just disappeared and left me with 373 MB ISO
[14:20] <station6> nmvictor: can you just change the file extension and play it?
[14:20] <station6> nmvictor: I can with mine
[14:21] <jorgerosa> Wout:  You are right indeed. Your question is revelant. I never had that problem, since i use windows and ubuntu (Wine). But for people that uses mac and ubuntu, seems to me to be out of luck... for now...
[14:21] <station6> user1: the iso should be 700mb
[14:21] <station6> user1: the iso should be 699
[14:21] <user1> station6: right even i expected that but do you thing its faulty download
[14:22] <station6> user1: yes
[14:22] <dezzu> cia a tutti
[14:22] <station6> user1: just download the normal desktop iso from the ubuntu site
[14:22] <station6> then mount with daemon tools
[14:22] <Wout> by by
[14:23] <user1> station6 : i did try vcdrom
[14:23] <station6> user1: daemon tools is free and works ok for me
[14:23] <user1> station6 : but does daemon tools help to change boot options?
[14:24] <station6> user1: but anything that can mount iso's will do
[14:24] <station6> wubi does it for you
[14:24] <edl2203> station6: it worked, I removed it as root, now teach me the synopses for putting a file there as root
[14:25] <user1> station6 : tried twice with wubi . but somewhere it gets stuck if net speed is slow
[14:25] <station6> sudo cp -R /filelocationone/ /firelloacktion2/
[14:25] <station6> user1: this is what i mean dont use it for that
[14:25] <station6> user1: download the image from the website
[14:25] <Xand3r> hey folks, i am searching a wlan-pci card wich will work 100%, cann you give me an advice?
[14:25] <station6> user1: then mount it with daemon tools
[14:26] <Dr_Willis> !hardware | Xand3r
[14:26] <Xand3r> thx
[14:26] <station6> user1: do you understand what i mean?
[14:26] <user1> station6: and then point the virtual drive to wubi.exe when it asks for it? right
[14:27] <station6> user1: no point the virtual drive the iso you downloaded from the ubuntu website
[14:27] <station6> then it will load and you click install inside windows
[14:27] <station6> bam done
[14:28] <station6> reboot you get a menu with Windows and ubuntu
[14:28] <Jack_Sparrow> user1 read the wubi faq, especially how if you lose power you could lose everything including your windows partition
[14:28] <mihira> I am having problems with auto-pairing with my MS Bluetooth mouse. Anyone can help me
[14:28] <station6> I would not use wubi like that personally
[14:28] <station6> better to get an image and mount it
[14:28] <zer0o> NEXUIZ issue. won't load next level. CSQC unloaded. any idea?
[14:28] <terrestre> it's save to remove unused kernel linux-images from synaptic?
[14:28] <station6> yes
[14:28] <Jack_Sparrow> terrestre yes
[14:28] <terrestre> thanks
[14:29] <station6> i would keep 1 just in case
[14:29] <AlsaPCM> how do i install my webcam ?
[14:29] <raven_> hello - want to use only an analogue montior instead of the vga - is there anything i can do to "switch" over the monitor? external is black and i always have to start up with the vga enabled - any solution?
[14:29] <station6> you may have a problem one day
[14:29] <Jack_Sparrow> !webcam > AlsaPCM
[14:29] <AlsaPCM> packard bellinternal webcam
[14:29] <mihira> I am having problems with auto-pairing with my MS Bluetooth mouse. Anyone can help me?
[14:29] <terrestre> station6, yes, that a good idea, thx
[14:29] <station6> but maybee you are like me and have about 5 :D
[14:30] <maxxblade> max
[14:30] <maxxblade> x
[14:30] <pronoy> erUSUL: i am trying to dowload a debian package using d4x and am unable to do so after providing the mirror link from packages.ubuntu.com how to go about downloading ?
[14:30] <station6> anyone can help me with my wireless?
[14:30] <terrestre> lol, actually i have 10 unused images
[14:30] <mihira> station6: maybe i can help
[14:30] <user1> station6: well tell me after mounting iso from deaemon tools what should i do? will it be rw. and will it show up when i reboot . do i need grub
[14:30] <vegombrei> station6: whats the problem?
[14:30] <Titan8990> terrestre: thats a ubuntu thing.....
[14:30] <BenB> hey... my raid5 array out of raw disks does not get detected after (clean) reboot. it was active and synced before reboot. any idea what's wrong?
[14:31] <station6> user1: you dont reboot a menu you pop up
[14:31] <station6> user1: press install inside windows
[14:31] <station6> it will tell you when to reboot
[14:31] <mihira> I am having problems with auto-pairing with my MS Bluetooth mouse. Anyone can help me?
[14:31] <station6> and then you dont need it again
[14:31] <station6> my wireless the signal is at 40% for a while and then it will drop to 3 or 4% in the connection manager
[14:32] <pronoy> erUSUL: you there ?
[14:32] <station6> if i connect it drops from about 40% to 0%
[14:32] <raven_> hello - want to use only an analogue montior instead of the vga but external turns black at startup - any way to switch it?
[14:32] <user1> station6: thanks i will try doing it
[14:32] <station6> and i cant do anything
[14:32] <erUSUL> pronoy: yep... what error do you get ?
[14:32] <station6> user1: good luck but it think you will find it very easy
[14:32] <BenB> station6: that's rather normal for bad WLAN connections. they are flaky.
[14:32] <station6> benb: its all the connections in my list
[14:32] <nmvictor> station6: ok,that works thanks but isn't their a way i could convert with a program,i have noticed that my .DAT files are like between 30 to 40 mb while .ogm files are apprxm  15 to 20 mb,so i hought converting would help save some disk space coz i have so many .DAT files
[14:32] <Jack_Sparrow> station6 can you use enter a bit less often thanks, much of what you post on 4 lines could be done on one and save us all some scroll time
[14:33] <pronoy> erUSUL: in the log it says downloading of file ............ terminated due to fatal error
[14:33] <station6> sorry
[14:33] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[14:33] <BenB> station6: maybe they are all bad? try going directly in front of the WLAN access point with your WLAN client.
[14:33] <pronoy> erUSUL: its actually a mirror addresse from packages.ubuntu.com
[14:33] <station6> It used to work
[14:33] <pronoy> erUSUL: i am trying to download a debian package of freepats
[14:34] <erUSUL> pronoy: what are you trying to dl ?
[14:34] <BenB> station6: see above.
[14:34] <BenB> station6: it may also be that your antenna is broken.
[14:34] <Jack_Sparrow> !debian
[14:34] <raven_> second monitor turns black at startup - any way to start WITHOUT the first one?
[14:34] <BenB> station6: when it's at 40%, the connection works?
[14:34] <erUSUL> pronoy: try other mirror
[14:34] <mihira> I am having problems with auto-pairing with my MS Bluetooth mouse. Anyone can help me?
[14:35] <station6> No its at 40% then goes to 1% when I connect and only then, Otherwise its around this, I see in my netowrk manager it just constantly is trying to find another ip adresss every 10 seconds
[14:35] <vr3m> it is possible to connect a second display on my laptop with nVidia video card?
[14:35] <Jack_Sparrow> station6 this isnt an hp laptop is it
[14:35] <station6> Asus
[14:35] <nmvictor> station6:i've been using ffmpeg in windows and now i just realised that the package exists in my ubuntu linux system,know how to use it?
[14:36] <pronoy> erUSUL: success......sorry to bother you for such a small issue......thanks appreciate it
[14:36] <Jack_Sparrow> station6 There was a bios fix for the hp dv to correct a voltage issue to the wireless card
[14:36] <BenB> nmvictor: ffmpeg in Linux is just a library (like DDL in windows)
[14:36] <station6> nmvictor: not really the way I compress them is to just put them in final cut or anther editing program
[14:36] <erUSUL> pronoy:  no problem
[14:36] <BenB> nmvictor: you can install "mplayer" to use ffmpeg.
[14:37] <Jack_Sparrow> nmvictor there is also winff I think is the correct name
[14:37] <Jack_Sparrow> !find winff
[14:37] <station6> Jack_Sparrow: I see logs where people are showing the association how can I do this?
[14:37] <BenB> nmvictor: it may not be not in the default repository due to software patents, but you'll find instructions on the web.
[14:37] <Jack_Sparrow> station6 Update your bios ?
[14:37] <nmvictor> BenB: then use mplayer to do the conversion or ffmpeg does the conversion for streaming into mplayer?
[14:37] <Jack_Sparrow> !info winff
[14:38] <station6> I think the problem is not occuring in windows?
[14:38] <aprilhare> i want to open firefox using the at command and a script. i can get the at command to work, but firefox does not open.
[14:38] <BenB> nmvictor: which "conversion"?
[14:38] <aprilhare> is there something i'm missing?
[14:38] <mihira> I am having problems with auto-pairing with my MS Bluetooth mouse. Anyone can help me?
[14:38] <Jack_Sparrow> station6 correct, in windows it is fine.. but for linux.. update the bios
[14:38] <BenB> nmvictor: if you just want to play something, you use mplayer. if you want to store it in a different format, you use mencoder, which is part of mplayer.
[14:38] <nmvictor> BenB: .DAT to .ogm conversion
[14:39] <station6> Jack_Sparrow: Ok thank you for the advice I wasn't sure what you were getting at before
[14:39] <BenB> mihira: repeat your question every hour, not every 3 minutes, thanks.
[14:39] <aprilhare> hello? :)
[14:39] <BenB> aprilhare: hello.
[14:39] <pustyu> Escriba el texto aquí....que idioma se habla aqui
[14:39] <station6> Mihira: A little look on google will help you find you answer
[14:39] <mihira> BenB
[14:39] <user1> station6 : http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ - there is a iso torrent as ubuntu-9.04-netbook-remix-i386.img . what is it about?
[14:40] <pustyu> ....que idioma se habla aqui
[14:40] <mihira> BenB: Sorry man...
[14:40] <aprilhare> BenB: yay someone hears me :) but no answer to my question as to how to get the at command open a web browser
[14:40] <nmvictor> please give me short info in using the mencoder
[14:40] <mihira> station6: man i've tryed all solutions found on google. this is not my first attempt to solve this problem.
[14:40] <raven_> second monitor turns black at startup - any way to start WITHOUT the first one?
[14:41] <station6> mihira: you are coming with nothing that you have tried and giving us very little information
[14:41] <mihira> station6: when I was under kubuntu it was working just fine, but now at ubuntu 8.10 it doesn't
[14:41] <BenB> aprilhare: does "firefox http://www.foo.com" work in the console window?
[14:41] <vegombrei> does anyone know how to send sound to bluetooth headphones?
[14:41] <aprilhare> BenB: yes.
[14:41] <jimcooncat> aprilhare: I'm guessing that at doesn't have access to your display
[14:41] <station6> user1: just got to ubuntu.com and press get ubuntu and download the desktop version
[14:42] <Onbekend4> hai need some information about ubunut can some one help?
[14:42] <BenB> aprilhare: if you want to run it from a background script, you need to use "DISPLAY=:0 firefox http..." , to find the right X11 display.
[14:42] <station6> mihira: so what have you tired in 8.10 to remedy this?
[14:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Onbekend4 Simple, just ask a well formed complete question , all on one line and wait for your answer, repeat ever few MINUTES if no answer
[14:42] <user1> station6 : i think torrents are better its downloading good now. but i was curious about netbook remix. googling gives me that its for USB boot
[14:43] <station6> mihira: have you gone to system bluetooth and attempted to pair it?
[14:43] <Onbekend4> hwoto edited the Makefile and change file x86_32 to x86
[14:43] <alban_> quit
[14:43] <Onbekend4> how to
[14:43] <station6> user1: its for netbooks not regular desktops
[14:43] <aprilhare> benb: testing right now
[14:43] <BenB> aprilhare: then, see what jimcooncat said. if you start it from another user account, you need to cp .XAuthority from your normal user's home to the "at" user account's home
[14:43] <Jack_Sparrow> !compile
[14:43] <station6> user1: not sure it will work
[14:43] <mihira> station6: changed the /etc/default/bluetooth and the /etc/bluetooth/hcid.conf
[14:43] <mihira> but nothing worked
[14:43] <user1> station6 even i need the same i am on 1000HE
[14:44] <Xand3r> hey ho, i found now a cheep wlan-card, working with the Madwifi driver. what da hell is Madwifi?
[14:44] <Onbekend4> plz can someone help?
[14:44] <ahills> is there a command line utility that will check all of my installed packages and display the number (if any ) that are up to date/ out of date?
[14:44] <Titan8990> Xand3r: open source drivers
[14:44] <aprilhare> benb: ic. it works btw :) thanks for the help.
[14:44] <Titan8990> !google | Xand3r
[14:44] <BenB> aprilhare: great. :)
[14:44] <station6> Xand3r: download compat wireless it has eclipsed madwifi
[14:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Onbekend4 What are you trying to compile or install
[14:45] <Xand3r> Titan8990: emm can i be shure that it will work 100% with that driver?
[14:45] <station6> again google
[14:45] <Titan8990> Xand3r: check the madwifi compatibility list
[14:45] <mihira> station6: I was just wondering if anyone here had the same problem :/
[14:45] <BenB> ahills: apt-get update; apt-get upgrade (or dist-upgrade)
[14:45] <Xand3r> Titan8990:  thats an idea
[14:45] <station6> mihira: try the forums you may have more luck
[14:46] <mihira> station6: I'll give a try
[14:46] <ahills> BenB: im looking for info if any need updating i dont wish to update
[14:46] <terrestre> io
[14:46] <hareldvd> After upgrade to Jaunty, id3ed is removed. Need it due to scripts which use it. Can I still get it?
[14:46] <BenB> ahills: yes. it will be default give you a list of things to upgrade and ask you. just say no.
[14:46] <station6> mihira: put your problem is general help you will have a fast response
[14:46] <BenB> ahills: you can also use --assume-no , IIRC. see "man apt-get"
[14:47] <wo|verine> i luv ubuntu
[14:47] <BenB> woot
[14:47] <moxfalder> how install Qt (creator, all tool with compiler like in W*) ?
[14:47] <station6> I have to go thanks to those that helped me particularly Jack_Sparrow
[14:47] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[14:47] <station6> :)
[14:47] <mihira> station6: thanks.
[14:47] <edl2203> station6: it kind of worked, I got to delete the file,  and I put it there but, there´s no sound now, better this way then before
[14:47] <santor> xmonad
[14:48] <MaxTesla> does anyone know how to proparly install ati graphic cards
[14:48] <BenB> moxfalder: search on packages.ubuntu.com or using "apt-cache search" on commandline for the programs/packages you want.
[14:48] <storbeck> !ati > MaxTesla
[14:48] <Dr_Willis> ATi is in a bit of a state of confusion at this time it seems. :()
[14:48] <BenB> MaxTesla: stick them in the slot, connection the power cable.
[14:48] <ahills> BenB: i appreciate the advice but this is not what im looking for. i want status info thats all. apt-get does not provide this
[14:48] <gianni> !lista
[14:49] <Dr_Willis> there is no !List gianni
[14:49] <Salcedian> !skype
[14:49] <BenB> ahills: you can get the status info using "apt-cache" for each package afterwards.
[14:49] <gianni> hi
[14:49] <Rachel> hi
[14:49] <gianni> its my first time here
[14:49] <BeGu> is it possible to somehow see how much upload my spotify is using? (9.04 + wine)
[14:49] <BenB> ahills: check "man apt-cache" and "man dpkg", too.
[14:49] <terrestre> ur welcome gianni
[14:49] <ahills> BenB: im simply looking for this kind of info : 5 packages are out fo date 3 security
[14:49] <gianni> i need some help
[14:50] <Jack_Sparrow> gianni welcome..  please see guidelines or code of conduct if this is your first time on IRC
[14:50] <BenB> ahills: that's what apt-get upgrade --assume-no gives you
[14:50] <Jack_Sparrow> !ask
[14:50] <BenB> (without "security" specifically)
[14:50] <sproaty> jaunty 9.04, creative x-fi w/ creative drivers installed - whenever I reboot my master sound level volume is reset to 0 and I have to turn it back up?
[14:50] <gianni> some people can show me where i cAN FIND A SIMPLE TUTORIAL FOR CREATE AND CONFIGURE A lamp SERVER
[14:50] <shantzu> hello
[14:51] <Jack_Sparrow> !lamp > gianni
[14:51] <Zzeiss> Is anyone else having problems with the Bluetooth on 9.04?
[14:51] <Titan8990> gianni: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[14:51] <BenB> Zzeiss: be more specific
[14:51] <shantzu> is there a way to save the current state of installed packages to be used later on another installation (like to be able to install the exact same packages automatically on another computer)?
[14:52] <Pici> !aptoncd | shantzu
[14:52] <gianni> MANY TANK
[14:52] <gianni> !LAMP
[14:52] <Pici> shantzu: Its in the repositories
[14:52] <shantzu> Pici: cool, thanks =)
[14:52] <Zzeiss> BenB: OK.  Running 9.04 + current updates on a MacBook Unibody.  The internal Bluetooth does not show up.  However, external USB plugin bluetooths work, and so does the internal when booted into MacOSX.  I've STFW and googled and found nothing  So, I'm kinda stuck.
[14:53] <Ubuntubruger2> Hello everyone I have a problem with exstending the screen with an Nvidia 8800 GT graphics card for my philips flatscreen 32 " inch TV. I know it's something with my computer or my flat tv, there do not send a edid, i have solved it in Vista by typing my flat tvs edid into the setup ini file before I installed nvidia. I have tried to look in the xorg file but it looks absolutely not like the ini file in windows nvidia drivers. Is there anything else
[14:54] <BenB> Zzeiss: so, your problem is that the bluetooth device of your specific MacBook does not get detected, probably the linux driver is missing. search for that on google.
[14:54] <shantzu> Pici: iirc there also was some program called 'remaster' or something like that, that did something similar, but i can't find it in the repository ...
[14:54] <Exilant> Ubuntubruger2: try xrandr
[14:54] <Travis-42> Every time I restart my computer, fusion-icon says that compiz is my current window manager.  However, Compiz does not seem to be working and I have to choose "Reload Window Manager".  After that compiz works every time.  How do I make it so that compiz loads properly at the start every time?
[14:54] <Zzeiss> BenB: OK... sounds like a plan.  Can you guide me any further?
[14:54] <BenB> Zzeiss: no, sorry
[14:54] <marco_> www.lardef.com.br
[14:54] <BenB> Zzeiss: i have no idea about the subject matter.
[14:55] <Pici> !remaster | shantzu perhaps one of these?
[14:55] <usr13> gianni: http://www.debianadmin.com/ubuntu-lamp-server-installation-with-screenshots.html
[14:55] <Dr_Willis> Ubuntubruger2:  all i do to get my tv out going is plug the thing in.. install the nvidia drivers and use the nvidia settings tool 'gksu nvidia-settings' to tweak the display and save th xorg.conf
[14:56] <shantzu> Pici: cool, thanks again :)
[14:57] <idhtns> i just did a clean install of jaunty and i'm trying to get back some old settings.  what files do i need to copy to recover my crontabs?
[14:57] <raven_> second monitor turns black at startup - any way to start WITHOUT the first one?
[14:58] <terrestre> i already removes the unused linux-images, do i need to remove linux-headers too? do i need to remove something else?
[14:58] <Shapeshifter> Problem: When I launch skype in jaunty with all updates installed, it immediately crashes with a single message "Aborted" on the command line. I already tried: isntalling from medibuntu, from the skype repo and from the skype page and deleting ~/.Skype. All suggestions on the forums on how to fix this didn't work for me. Can you please help me?
[14:58] <Travis-42> Apart from this channel, what's the best way to get support for a complex problem: the forums, mailing lists, the tech answers system?
[14:58] <Dr_Willis> Travis-42:  'all of the above'
[14:58] <Zzeiss> Is anyone here using a Macbook Unibody ?  If so, please msg me.
[14:58] <erUSUL> Travis-42: try the three
[14:59] <Travis-42> Dr_Willis, erUSUL: is there any violation of etiquette to post the same problem to those places at the same time?
[14:59] <vander> aje
[14:59] <erUSUL> Travis-42: no afaics... the forums are said to work well
[14:59] <Dr_Willis> Travis-42:  proberly not. of course it pays to search them throughly first.. it sucks when you post a problem.. then someone sends back.. "its fixed at this url....'
[14:59] <Dr_Willis> Travis-42:  :)
[14:59] <FloodBot1> Dr_Willis: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:00] <Travis-42> thanks erUSUL and Dr_Willis :-)
[15:00]  * Dr_Willis thinks FloodBot1  is lagged.
[15:00] <Dr_Willis> Theres so much going on at the forums..  its staggering at times.
[15:00] <nztal> in ubuntu jaunty on my laptop, i don't get a estimate countdown time for how much battery time is left.  is there anything i can do about that ?
[15:01] <predaeus> Is there an alternative way to list symbols in a shared object file than nm? nm lists no symbols for the opengl library here.
[15:01] <trakinas> I need some help with pureFTPd. anyone?
[15:01] <terrestre> !jaunty
[15:02] <suwro> helo
[15:02] <Zzeiss> BenB: Well, lsusb tells me nothing but that a bunch of unidentified stuff is on the USB bus.  :-(
[15:02] <llml_> WoW, ubottu is a so cool bot :)
[15:03] <sevenseeker> I am Ubuntu 64 Xvfb package version 2:1.6.0-0ubuntu14 on a headless system with Mesa and I can't get 32 bit depths to work, I see random posts on the net saying 32 bit is buggy, is there another recent version or unstable release (even trunk) that 32 bit works in?
[15:03] <SoDoMa> hacker
[15:03] <terrestre> llml_, yeah lol
[15:03] <usr13> trakinas: What is pureftpd?
[15:03] <millos> Hello again everyone im sorry to send the problem again my browser crashed, I have a problem with exstending the screen with an Nvidia 8800 GT graphics card for my philips flatscreen 32 " inch TV. I know it's something with my computer or my flat tv, there do not send a edid, i have solved it in Vista by typing my flat tvs edid into the setup ini file before I installed nvidia. I have tried to look in the xorg file but it looks absolutely not like the ini 
[15:03] <trakinas> usr13: an ftp server
[15:03] <trakinas> *a
[15:03] <suwro> anyone know where to read news about fglrx driver in ubuntu 9.04? I'm an Inspiron 1501 owner - I have ATI Radeon Xpress 200M
[15:03] <terrestre> !ubbotu
[15:04] <terrestre> !ubottu
[15:04] <suwro> !fglrx
[15:04] <usr13> trakinas: Ok, what is the problem with it?
[15:05] <trakinas> usr13: I cant log in. even though im typing my password correctly
[15:06] <llml_> !apt
[15:06] <trakinas> I get an Error:	Could not connect to server -- and Im trying locally!
[15:06] <usr13> trakinas: Is it giving you and ftp prompt?
[15:06] <Xand3r> how can i find out wich UDMA my motherboard supports?
[15:07] <trakinas> Xand3r: its user manual should say.
[15:07] <llml_> Anyway, ubottu is powered by what? I'd like to hack it :)
[15:07] <usr13> trakinas: You will probably find a configuration file somewhere... like /etc/purftpd.conf   and you may need to enable local user login.
[15:07] <terrestre> !hi
[15:07] <trakinas> usr13: Im using filezilla
[15:08] <Pici> !botclone | llml_
[15:08] <Dominoeffekt> Hi guys I was wondering is it is possible to have boath Windows xp and Ubuntu installd on the same machine? (I was ubuntu, my fader wants windows)
[15:08] <ivanatwork> I just installed Wordpress via Synaptic (on Jaunty). So Jaunty puts Wordpress not on /var/www ... is there an howto ?
[15:08] <Xand3r> trakinas: i have no user manual, is there no command wich shows me the supportet mode?
[15:08] <terrestre> !sigh
[15:08] <sproaty> does anyone know which compiz thing to turn off to disable mouse wheel scrolling on the taskbar switching windows? it;s really annoying me.
[15:08] <trakinas> usr13: everything seems to be configured - including users and stuff. pam an unix auth are disabled.
[15:08] <terrestre> !ping
[15:08] <Pici> !msgthebot | terrestre
[15:08] <trakinas> Xand3r: maybe lshw
[15:08] <Xand3r> hmm
[15:08] <Ahlee> bad CD?: May 15 14:04:24 in-target: Failed to fetch cdrom:[Ubuntu-Server 9.04 _Jaunty Jackalope_ - Release amd64 (20090421.1)]/pool/main/u/usbutils/usbutils_0.73-8ubuntu3_amd64.deb  Hash Sum mismatch
[15:09] <kalel008> hi there
[15:09] <usr13> trakinas: Have you seen http://www.pureftpd.org/project/pure-ftpd/doc  ?
[15:09] <SoDoMa> hi i want to start learning linux,but i dont know what kind of book is more usefull for me,can someone help me ?
[15:09] <suwro> can 8.10 have the notification in gnome like in 9.04 ?
[15:09] <Dominoeffekt> Hi guys I was wondering is it is possible to have boath Windows xp and Ubuntu installd on the same machine? (I want ubuntu, my fader wants windows)
[15:09] <Jinxed553> !flash
[15:09] <suwro> like growl on OSX
[15:09] <llml_> Pici: That's fun :)
[15:09] <usr13> trakinas: And if you've made any configuration changes, you must remember to restart it.
[15:10] <pepperjack> SoDoMa: honestly books are of limited help to me.  best thing you can do is setup multiple partitions and then try different distros. slackware would be a great distro to learn a bit on but the documentation isnt centralized and really great so maybe arch linux and then try freebsd too. id keep ubuntu for commond desktop stuff
[15:11] <Jinxed553> I am using 9.04 linux for 64 bit machines (I think it is the 64 bit eddition) anyway it said that flash isn't provided for anything but x86... so what should i install to view flash online
[15:11] <ivanatwork> how can i configure Wordpress? Jaunty, installed in Synaptic
[15:11] <Dr_Willis> SoDoMa:  when in doubt read read read.. everything andeverything. :) 'linux' has a lot of 'stuff' and  it all depends on what you want to learn first.
[15:11] <Dr_Willis> SoDoMa:  learning Bash is always a good start.
[15:11] <trakinas> usr13: already did. but redoing doesnt hurt
[15:11] <SoDoMa> programming
[15:11] <pepperjack> Dominoeffekt: yes the installer will keep windows for you if you choose not to use the entire hard drive you then can choose which to boot with
[15:12] <sproaty> How often does flash crash for you guys? after having firefox open for an hour or so, I'll have to restart to make flash work, videos just stop loading
[15:12] <SoDoMa> yes i want to learn bash,but i need some info. about it
[15:12] <nztal> in ubuntu jaunty on my laptop, i don't get a estimate countdown time for how much battery time is left.  is there anything i can do about that ?
[15:12] <Dr_Willis> SoDoMa:  'programing' is rather broad also. :) id start with learning bash very well.. then move out to other languages
[15:12] <Dr_Willis> SoDoMa:  info? theres 1000+ sites onit on google. also the advanced-bash-guide is in the repos..
[15:13] <usr13> pepperjack: SoDoMa The slackware documentation can found at http://www.slackbook.org/  and it's not that bad... you'll learn a lot... FYI
[15:13] <ivanatwork> how can i configure Wordpress?
[15:13] <llml_> !#ubunt
[15:13] <llml_> !#ubuntu
[15:13] <SoDoMa> thanks!!!
[15:14] <Dr_Willis> SoDoMa:  with linux its very much a "Get out  and play with it, and  put forth the effort" kind of OS. :)
[15:14] <xub> hey any gay guys online??
[15:14] <terrestre> !offtopic
[15:14] <LjL> xub: not on topic for this channel.
[15:14] <Jinxed553> I am using 9.04 linux for 64 bit machines (I think it is the 64 bit eddition) anyway it said that flash isn't provided for anything but x86... so what should i install to view flash online
[15:14] <xub> blablablablablablabla
[15:14] <LjL> xub: stop it.
[15:15] <xub> ok :(
[15:15] <terrestre> lol
[15:15] <usr13> pepperjack: SoDoMa http://www.slackbook.org/  it pretty good actually.  I use the single-page html version, http://www.slackbook.org/html/book.html
[15:15] <xub> hey, how do i install flash player on xubuntu?
[15:15] <nmvictor> any one know how to work with this ffmpeg, ffmpeg -i INPUTFILE.DAT -r 24 -s hd1080 OUTPUTFILE.ogm   i tried this at the terminal and got the  error as Unable to find find suitable output format for OUTPUT.ogm  where INPUT and OUTPUT coresponded to my files.
[15:15] <terrestre> !flash > xub
[15:15] <Jinxed553> I am using 9.04 linux for 64 bit machines (I think it is the 64 bit eddition) anyway it said that flash isn't provided for anything but x86... so what should i install to view flash online... would [Swfdec Flash Player] work?
[15:15] <xub> im not xub, im his lil brother
[15:16] <chocobanana> Hi everyone!!!!
[15:16] <iltar> Can anyone tell me how to install easy_install so I can install trac? I can't find any information on it... :(
[15:16] <pepperjack> xub: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree    i you really want to know
[15:16] <Strife89> I am looking for something to read ext3 partitions inside of Windows. Specifically, a 64-bit version of Windows Vista, with Service Pack 1.
[15:16] <Zzeiss> Is anyone here using a Macbook?  If so, please msg me.
[15:16] <terrestre> Jinxed553, i use this http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/
[15:16] <pepperjack> Zzeiss: there are a few folks in #ubuntu-offtopic i think
[15:17] <chocobanana> Does anyone knows where to find a .deb pacakge available with the jack plugin for Alsa in Ubuntu 9.04?
[15:17] <Jinxed553> terrestre: do you have the 64 bit edditon of ubuntu?
[15:17] <Zzeiss> Jinxed553: If you want to watch Youtube, then the easiest is to     sudo apt-get install ".*gnash.*"
[15:17] <chocobanana> !jack
[15:17] <terrestre> Jinxed553, yes
[15:17] <Strife89> I have already tried www.fs-driver.org . Vista told me that I needed to "format the drive in order to use it", to which I declined.
[15:18] <raven_> second monitor turns black at startup - any way to start WITHOUT the first one?
[15:18] <Pici> iltar: I believe  its part of the python-setuptools package
[15:18] <Ahlee> raven_: disconnect it?
[15:18] <phreaknite> hey, do i just ask a question here? :P
[15:18] <mintux> hi i take a mistake while installing ubuntu . and my partitions that contain home partition with important information cleared but i reseted computer immediately( while creating ext3 appear ) . now my partition table removed but i think my information is exists .. so what shall i do? my new partition http://pastebin.com/m41cb8281
[15:18] <iltar> so it's sudo apt-get install python-setuptools?
[15:18] <usr13> iltar: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[15:18] <Jinxed553> Zzeiss: is gnash better than Swfdec Flash Player
[15:19] <Jinxed553> and why youtube?
[15:19] <exen> one question all packadge run on 9.04 64 Bit ?
[15:19] <terrestre> Jinxed553, adobe's flash 64bit is what is working the best for me at least
[15:19] <LibertyTiger> Anyone else having problems with Sun Report Builder after the last OpenOffice update?
[15:19] <neil_d> can you install ubuntu onto a flash HDD in such a way that it still uses the unionfs setup.
[15:19] <Strife89> I am looking for something to read ext3 partitions inside of Windows. Specifically, a 64-bit version of Windows Vista, with Service Pack 1.
[15:19] <Strife89> I have already tried www.fs-driver.org . Vista told me that I needed to "format the drive in order to use it", to which I declined.
[15:19] <Jinxed553> terrestre: isn't that a prerelase?
[15:19] <will__> strife89: macdrive?
[15:19] <Zzeiss> Jinxed553: I think it actually is the same codebase bu different wrappers.  I prefer Gnash to Flash because it has fewer exploits... and because it is open source.
[15:19] <phreaknite> I am having a problem installing 9.04 - particularly installing new kernels... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7283704#post7283704
[15:19] <fenn_> having problems with apt-get dist-upgrade - Stuck with intrepid and trying to get to jackalope
[15:20] <usr13> chocobanana: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5038203
[15:20] <phreaknite> me too fenn_ whats your problem
[15:20] <terrestre> Jinxed553, yes but its work very good, btw you just need to copy the file in .mozilla folder
[15:20] <Strife89> will__: I need something free. :/
[15:20] <phreaknite> fenn what problem are you having -- this is mine: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7283704#post7283704
[15:21] <usr13> exen: No
[15:21] <raven_> Ahlee i need to boot with the "second" monitor and without the "first" one
[15:21] <pepperjack> mintux: see if gpart is in the repos. that is an app dedicated to searching for partitions and restoring partition table
[15:21] <exen> ok thanks usr13
[15:21] <iltar> pica: ty that was it
[15:21] <usr13> exen: I would say, most but not all.
[15:21] <phreaknite> im having a problem installing new kernels - system won't boot on any of my installed kernels
[15:21] <fenn_> phreaknite: i know jackalope is out but the apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:22] <iltar> usr13: i meant the easy_install of python;)
[15:22] <will__> strife89: i've never used this one, but i found diskinternals.com in a google search
[15:22] <Jinxed553> terrestre: I'm a little weary about prerelease... even stable prereleases plus it has like 10 steps and 3 other things you need to download versus add/remove and a checkbox, but I think you for your input
[15:22] <Dr_Willis> Strife89:  ive found that windows gets confused with that tool a bit.. some times i booted and it saw the linux disks.. some tmes it wouldent.
[15:22] <mintux> pepperjack you mean gparted ?
[15:22] <exen> hum oki
[15:22] <pepperjack> mintux: no
[15:22] <cantoma> phreaknite: did you compile them by yourself or you just apt them?
[15:22] <phreaknite> i apt them
[15:22] <phreaknite> but now i am trying to compile myself
[15:23] <phreaknite> and i am getting the same problem
[15:23] <cantoma> phreaknite: try compile them
[15:23] <phreaknite> i am in a netroot in recovery mode
[15:23] <phreaknite> and the same problem is occurring
[15:23] <cantoma> phreaknite: did you follow the instructions from the README file from the kernels?
[15:23] <pepperjack> mintux: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install gpart; sudo gpart /dev/sda -W /dev/sda    <-- from livecd
[15:23] <cantoma> phreaknite: are you using lilo or grub?
[15:23] <chocobanana> usr13: thanks for that but what what I was really looking for is how to make an Alsa app Jack aware. I know that Ubuntu used to have jack in the libasound2-plugins package but it's not there anymore since a few releases ago. That's why I wanted to know if there's some kind of 3rd party repo or package for that.
[15:23] <pepperjack> mintux: i am assuming you didnt reforat it of course :)
[15:24] <cantoma> phreaknite: anyway what is it the problem?
[15:24] <pepperjack> mintux: if that works will you consider making a wiki entry for it?
[15:24] <fenn_> having problems with apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:24] <fenn_>  Stuck with intrepid and trying to get to jackalope
[15:24] <mintux> http://tinypic.info/files/9ngsva2va5bnfpysrpjs.png
[15:24] <Sarisel> Hello
[15:24] <terrestre> Jinxed553, i tried gnash and swf release and i was not very happy about the results, you can check by yourself
[15:24] <Sarisel> Have a kernel panic after upgrade to 9.04
[15:24] <phreaknite> cantoma: i am using GRUB.  It turns out that i am stll using apt but i did apt-get to compile the kernel on my own
[15:25] <Jinxed553> Zzeiss: I tried to install it from the Add/Removes Gui and got this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/173050/
[15:25] <phreaknite> cantoma: the problem is that when i try to install or configure any new kernels they hang as shown here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7283704#post7283704
[15:25]  * Strife89 downloads http://www.diskinternals.com/download/Linux_Reader.exe
[15:25] <Jinxed553> error
[15:25] <dios_mio> when did 9.04 come out?
[15:25] <will__> end of march?
[15:25] <Sarisel> 1 week ago
[15:25] <fenn_> phreaknite: i know jackalope is out but the apt-get dist-upgrade gets me nothing
[15:25] <Jinxed553> terrestre: how long did it take you to install
[15:25] <phreaknite> cantoma: this happened originally when trying to do a regular update through update manager
[15:25] <usr13> chocobanana: Looks like there may be useful info at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1012283
[15:25] <phreaknite> fenn: what is the output of apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:25] <Zzeiss> Jinxed553: No, it's not in the GUI.  You have to do it from the terminal, as a sudo.  This is because you need to wild-card in all of the .*gnash.* stuff, not just gnash alone.
[15:26] <terrestre> Jinxed553, 2 minutes? btw im using 8.04
[15:26] <mintux> pepperjack it's in gparted http://tinypic.info/files/9ngsva2va5bnfpysrpjs.png i didn't allow it to create a partition and i reseted it
[15:26] <chuck_> fenn_,  did you try update-manager -d from terminal
[15:26] <nmvictor> dios_mio: www.ubuntu.com/
[15:26] <DrHalan> hey, i am using screenlets. but when i click my minimize all button the widgets get minimized too. how can i prevent this?
[15:26] <SoDoMa> i want to install slackware,can i ?
[15:26] <Jinxed553> Has anyone used 9.04 with flash 10?
[15:26] <usr13> SoDoMa: Sure
[15:26] <cantoma> phreaknite: ok download the lastest kernel from kernel.org ... tar it .. configure it .. make it .. and make install it .. and tell your grub about it .. thats it
[15:26] <terrestre> Jinxed553, let me reboot and check lol
[15:27] <will__> Jinxed553: I've been having tons of issues with 9.04 and flash/gnash/swfdec
[15:27] <SoDoMa> but in my laptop,i have Vista and Ubuntu 2
[15:27] <usr13> SoDoMa: Just add a drive or create a new partition and away you go.
[15:27] <phreaknite> cantoma: thanks -- where can i find newbie instructions on how to configure and make a kernel from tar?
[15:27]  * llml_ is watching on mintux's problem
[15:27] <phreaknite> cantoma: i apologize for being a noob
[15:27] <cantoma> phreaknite: i mean untar
[15:27] <phreaknite> cantoma: in the tar is there a readme that explains the process?
[15:28] <phreaknite> cantoma: or another web application i can use to find out how to do that
[15:28] <cantoma> phreaknite: for that question google is your friend
[15:28] <usr13> SoDoMa: You would have to shrink on or more of the existing partitions to make room, but I see no reason why you can't do it.  But I must say, that the Slackware install is not an automataded process like Ubuntu so be sure and read slackbook first.
[15:28] <phreaknite> cantoma: ill try my best, thanks mate -- which kernel is best for Jaunty, btw
[15:28] <pepperjack> mintux: run the gpart command i mentioned
[15:28] <pepperjack> not gparted
[15:28] <terrestre> Jinxed553, btw did you try sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree ?
[15:28] <fenn_> chuck_: you win the prize.  Thanks
[15:29] <Jinxed553> terrestre: no... should i?
[15:29] <mintux> i'm running
[15:29] <phreaknite> cantoma: would 2.6.29.3 work for it, seeing as it is the latest stable version?
[15:29] <Ahlee> Seeing this in my dmesg logs during install, bad CD?: May 15 14:04:24 in-target: Failed to fetch cdrom:[Ubuntu-Server 9.04 _Jaunty Jackalope_ - Release amd64 (20090421.1)]/pool/main/u/usbutils/usbutils_0.73-8ubuntu3_amd64.deb  Hash Sum mismatch
[15:29] <chuck_> fenn_,  your welcome
[15:29] <pepperjack> mintux: oh is your partition table ok?  looks ok in gparted
[15:29] <terrestre> Jinxed553, sure that's the first option, did you install the rextricted-extra packages?
[15:29] <Jinxed553> terrestre: no
[15:29] <Jinxed553> lol should i?
[15:30] <rockman> What is Linux?
[15:30] <pepperjack> mintux: ah the 140GB partition that is empty.  yeah run gpart
[15:30] <rockman> I'm a new.
[15:30] <chuck_> !linux
[15:30] <terrestre> !restricted | Jinxed553
[15:30] <usr13> SoDoMa: Unlike Ubuntu, the Slackware install relies heavily on user input.  You will use fdisk to partition the free and add the / partition and the swap partition and then run setup and start with the install process, it is not at all like Ubunut.  Ubuntu is totally automated.  Slackware is NOT.
[15:30] <terrestre> Jinxed553, yes that's the first package you need to install for flash, java, mp3, codevs
[15:30] <mudassar> hello experts, just tell me a little thing. I want to open Eclipse from the menu as a root so that I can create projects and work in it. How can I open it as root ?
[15:30] <mintux> pepperjack no i don't think so.... i don't know ... http://tinypic.info/files/9ngsva2va5bnfpysrpjs.png  i had 4 partitions and one important of them was my home ( with important data ) ...  :-(
[15:31] <rockman> Linux is better Vista?
[15:31] <mintux> pepperjack what does gpart do ?
[15:31] <terrestre> yes!!!!1
[15:31] <Dr_Willis> rockman:  i perfer linux to vista. yes.
[15:31] <cantoma> phreaknite: http://www.kernel.org/ -> The latest stable version of the Linux kernel is:  	2.6.29.3
[15:31] <genii> rockman: We tend to think so. The people in ##windows channel of course may have other opinions
[15:31] <Severity1> yes i agree
[15:31] <terrestre> Jinxed553, just sudo aptitude install ubuntu-restricted-extras it's take a while
[15:31] <Severity1> vista are for your granmas
[15:31] <rockman> Oh.
[15:31] <pepperjack> mintux: it is an app designed to look for intact partitions if you have messed up your partition table
[15:32] <mintux> ok
[15:32] <terrestre> actually i think ubuntu is pretty good for granmas
[15:32] <Jinxed553> terrestre: what will that get me?
[15:32] <rockman> But Linux is slow.
[15:32] <mintux> Begin scan...
[15:32] <mudassar> hello experts, just tell me a little thing. I want to open Eclipse from the menu as a root so that I can create projects and work in it. How can I open it as root ?
[15:32] <SoDoMa> but in my bios i can run what SO want to use ?
[15:32] <JaredK> linux isn't slow!
[15:32] <usr13> SoDoMa: You should ask slackware questions on channel ##slackware
[15:32] <rockman> O?
[15:32] <Jinxed553> rockman trolling?
[15:32] <neldoreth> mudassar: why do you want to start eclipse as root?
[15:32] <llml_> mintux: manpage said gpart guesses the partition info ;)
[15:32] <phreaknite> cantoma: i don't have a bootable version of linux right now -- so how can i get the .bz2 onto my linux partition?
[15:32] <rockman> But mt pc is poor.
[15:33] <pepperjack> llml_: its an educated guess ;p
[15:33] <mudassar> neldoreth: actually when I try to add a new class file in the project, it says "Access Denied"
[15:33] <SoDoMa> ok
[15:33] <phreaknite> cantoma: there is no operable kernel that i can boot into...
[15:33] <SoDoMa> ok
[15:33] <rpfaff> I recently upgraded to 9.04, now i have a error message from a "Tracker Applet"?
[15:33] <terrestre> Jinxed553, like i said java, flash, codecs, mp3 codecs, actually every multimedia player you need at once
[15:33] <SoDoMa> thanks for all
[15:33] <FloodBot1> SoDoMa: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:33] <Severity1> well ubuntu is good for your kids and parernts and friends and your lover and grannies and anyone else in the worl but vista? only grannies shud use it... and the cripples
[15:33] <neldoreth> mudassar: then change your workspace/project path
[15:33] <rockman> o
[15:33] <usr13> SoDoMa: But you can use gpart to resize your partiton(s) to make room for a new OS install.
[15:33] <llml_> pepperjack: I guess so :)
[15:33] <llml_> pepperjack: Hehe
[15:33] <terrestre> windows is good for games lol
[15:33] <Nakkel> Im having a problem installing 9.04 on a IBM xSeries with ServeRAID-7, the installer cant find any drives on the device, I have tried loading "ips" module by hand but doesnt seem to do much.
[15:33] <terrestre> wintendo
[15:33] <cantoma> phreaknite: ok so your problem is to fix your actual boot
[15:33] <mudassar> neldoreth: it is in the folder /home/mudassar/workspace and I want it to be there ..
[15:34] <rockman> Is Ubuntu better Deb?
[15:34] <icewaterman> how can i get rid of the ubuntu specific settings in the useragent of firefox? i can remove it via specific settings, but the problem is, they seem to return after a while on their own.
[15:34] <phreaknite> cantoma: yes
[15:34] <nztal> in ubuntu jaunty on my laptop, i don't get a estimate countdown time for how much battery time is left.  is there anything i can do about that ?
[15:34] <mintux> llml_: i know .. i read it from wikipedia im confuse now. while installation i checked my fucked mail ( in live cd ) and when i be aware i pressed install button ... and BooomB.
[15:34] <Dr_Willis> icewaterman:  there are useragent extensions that let you change them around I recall.
[15:34] <phreaknite> cantoma: the upgrade FUBAR'd my boot and no kernel will now load
[15:34] <mintux> how much does it take time usually ?
[15:34] <rockman> Er...What is XUbuntu?And Kubuntu?
[15:34] <phreaknite> cantoma: i apologize for the XY problem i presented just now
[15:34] <cantoma> phreaknite: you have a live cd
[15:34] <llml_> pepperjack: I thought the letter g in gpart should be gun but manpage says it is really guess. It's fun:)
[15:34] <Pici> !language | mintux
[15:34] <kronopio> Hi y'all.  I downloaded lightning for thunderbird but don't know how to "turn it on"
[15:34] <icewaterman> Dr_Willis, my problem is, that the standard setting always returns
[15:34] <terrestre> !kubuntu | rockman
[15:34] <icewaterman> and i do not know why
[15:35] <llml_> pepperjack: I mean GNU
[15:35] <terrestre> !xubuntu | rockman
[15:35] <chuck_> rockman, Quit trolling
[15:35] <Dr_Willis> icewaterman:  never noticed.. never bothered.. never needed to worry about it.. other then for a few odd sites.
[15:35] <rockman> Oh.I see.Thank you.
[15:35] <phreaknite> cantoma: not for Jaunty 9.04 -- downloading it now
[15:35] <usr13> rockman: Xubuntu is a smaller install.  Kubunt uses KDE instead of Gnome.
[15:35] <neldoreth> mudassar: check the folder rights
[15:35] <llml_> mintux: Sorry to hear that :(
[15:36] <rockman> Is ubuntu 9.04 faster 8.10?
[15:36] <Dr_Willis> rockman:  i find it is.
[15:36] <phreaknite> cantoma: do i just pop in the live CD and reinstall, then?
[15:36] <usr13> rockman: Probably not.
[15:36] <Dr_Willis> ext4 may be helping a bit in my loads :)
[15:36] <rockman> But ubuntu 9.04 is big.
[15:36] <cantoma> phreaknite: ok i don't know what is jaunty. Can you tell me what exactly the boot is telling you during boot process?
[15:37] <terrestre> 9.04 is faster than 8.10 to me at least
[15:37] <Jinxed553> terrestre: I installed the flash thing it didn't work still can't watch pandora
[15:37] <usr13> rockman: May be no difference at all, and if there is a difference, it would not be significant.
[15:37] <Dr_Willis> rockman:  Hmm.. No its not.
[15:37] <Severity1> i like the new dark theme 9.04 came with
[15:37] <mintux> pepperjack hey i got this message http://pastebin.com/m77dd3f0
[15:37] <icewaterman> Dr_Willis, i have found the problem, it is /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.10/defaults/preferences/ubuntu-useragent.js
[15:37] <Jinxed553> terrestre: Working on the restricted extras (eta 6 hrs)
[15:37] <icewaterman> however why is it executed
[15:37] <phreaknite> cantoma: sorry -- Jaunty is the latest version of Ubuntu.  During the boot process on a normal boot it just hangs somewhere in the boot process
[15:37] <cantoma> terrestre: get rid of gnome and use openbox you will see who is faster!!
[15:37] <Severity1> terrestre: have you tried restarting firefox
[15:37] <genii> rockman: If Ubuntu Jaunty is too big or too slow for your computer, I'm pretty sure you won't find any improvement on Vista in this area on the same hardware
[15:37] <rockman> Xubuntu 9.04 is 600MB.But Xubuntu 8.04 is 500MB.
[15:37] <phreaknite> cantoma: i will attempt a boot now and tell u just where it hangs
[15:37] <mintux> y ?
[15:38] <Dr_Willis> icewaterman:  there is a ubuntu extension i recall for somthing in firefox. perhaps thats doing it.
[15:38] <Jinxed553> cantoma: you think linux runs faster as an application in windows?
[15:38] <usr13> terrestre: Yes, if you want speed, change to lightweight window manager.
[15:38] <terrestre> Jinxed553, read what Severity1 says
[15:38] <cantoma> phreaknite: wait .. use a live cd and take the log.
[15:38] <icewaterman> Dr_Willis, that one is called ubufox and was the first thing to go when i installed ubuntu!
[15:38] <Jinxed553> Severity1: yes
[15:38] <llml_> Dr_Willis: Is ext4 the main feture intrudced by 9.04?
[15:38] <Jinxed553> I tried to restart firefox
[15:38] <mintux> llml_: i got this message press y ? http://pastebin.com/m77dd3f0
[15:38] <phreaknite> cantoma: where can i find the log
[15:38] <Dr_Willis> llml_:  its one of the newest/biggest/hyped features yes.
[15:38] <Severity1> have you tried restarting your pc?
[15:39] <rockman> Yes.
[15:39] <Jinxed553> Severity1: for a flash install... no
[15:39] <cantoma> phreaknite: around /var/log/boot.log
[15:39] <nztal> what does ubufox do ?
[15:39] <Severity1> sometimes i restart my pc first before i get help
[15:39] <Severity1> and usually it does the trick
[15:39] <Severity1> well everythings kinda buggy
[15:39] <Severity1> it wont hurt to try
[15:39] <cantoma> Jinxed553: i think windows sucks
[15:40] <rockman> When is born--ubuntu 9.10?
[15:40] <Severity1> i remeber i had the same issue with my flash install
[15:40] <llml_> mintux: I guess pepperjack is watching on it. But I have to go now. It's getting late here
[15:40] <phreaknite> cantoma: thanks -- plz hold for the log file
[15:40] <Severity1> i even tried installing swf and the other one
[15:40] <llml_> mintux: I'm at GMT +8 time zone.
[15:40] <sevodnya> rockman: that will be in october of this year--the ubuntu versions are YEAR.MONTH
[15:40] <Severity1> hold on
[15:40] <mintux> llml_: ok
[15:40] <rockman> 肯定的您不会发现在景色的所有改善在同一hardwareIf轻松活泼的
[15:40] <llml_> mintux: So good luck to you :)
[15:40] <Severity1> i will try to recall what i did with my flas install problem
[15:40] <rockman> 肯定的您不会发现在景色的所有改善在同一hardwareIf轻松活泼的
[15:40] <cantoma> phreaknite: you can probably post it and get a log of help rather saying that you have a problem and not giving a clue about it
[15:41] <mintux> thanks
[15:41] <rockman> I see.
[15:41] <Severity1> i got so frustrated back then coz i can't watch any animes
[15:41] <llml_> mintux: Hope pepperjack will help you figure it out :)
[15:41] <rockman> What is your pc?
[15:41] <phreaknite> cantoma: apologies -- i truely didn't even know how to get a log...
[15:41] <terrestre> i like fvwm-crystal
[15:41] <rockman> My pc is 256MB RAM.
[15:41] <mintux> llml_: thanks man
[15:41] <phreaknite> cantoma: only been using linux about a month now
[15:41] <rockman> This is poor?
[15:42] <Jinxed553> darn
[15:42] <Jinxed553> flash
[15:42] <sevodnya> rockman: what p[erating system are you currently running on it?
[15:42] <rockman> Sorry.I'm Chinese.So my English is poor.
[15:42] <Pici> !zh | rockman
[15:42] <cantoma> phreaknite: probably it will tell more than what you see in the screen during boot
[15:42] <phreaknite> cantoma: thanks man
[15:43] <Severity1> Jinxed553: have you tried doing sudo apt-get remove --purge on your flash install
[15:43] <kdoafk> hi there
[15:43] <Severity1> then download the deb package for it from adobe?
[15:43] <Jinxed553> Severity1 no... not yet
[15:43] <kdoafk> I am trying unsuccessfully to install the mesa drivers for my computer
[15:44] <Severity1> and have you tried installing it with firefox closed
[15:44] <Jinxed553> Severity1:  I have 64 bit version of ubuntu
[15:44] <phreaknite> uhm
[15:44] <phreaknite> cantoma: uhm
[15:44] <phreaknite> cantoma: my log says "(Nothing has been logged yet)"
[15:44] <sevodnya> kdoafk: you're referring to graphics drivers, yet?
[15:44] <kdoafk> yes
[15:44] <terrestre> Jinxed553, what is the page you want to see?
[15:44] <sevodnya> kdoafk: *yes?
[15:44] <cantoma> phreaknite: there should be more than one file
[15:45] <kdoafk> I have ./compiled the files from the tar.gz 's
[15:45] <sevodnya> kdoafk: do you know what kind of graphics card you have?
[15:45] <kdoafk> intel
[15:45] <terrestre> Jinxed553, let me check flash 10 in jaunty
[15:45] <phreaknite> cantoma: only 1 boot.log on my linux partition
[15:45] <kdoafk> the directions say to use make install but I keep getting errors
[15:46] <kdoafk> there is no install file
[15:46] <Severity1> kdoafk: have you tried chmod-ing the file you wanna make install?
[15:46] <kdoafk> i am new to linux and command line
[15:46] <Jinxed553> terrestre sounds good thanks
[15:46] <sevodnya> kdoafk: intel cards should be supported in ubuntu without additional drivers, though
[15:46] <phreaknite> cantoma: it may be dmesg.0 though...
[15:47] <Dr_Willis> there was some issue with some intel cards in 9.04 i recall.. but not seen any real info on it. My intelcard was not affected. :)
[15:47] <kdoafk> I am trying to run graphics programs that ran on this machine when it was a windows machine but the graphics are all wonky now
[15:47] <Severity1> search for chmod stuff over the net. that should help with your make-install
[15:47] <shantzu> is there any way to bring the installed programs to the state they were 2 hours ago for example? there were a couple of programs installed in the last couple of hours that i don't want anymore, but i don't know exactly what programs that were (there was a pretty huge list)
[15:47] <Jinxed553> lol sometimes I think linux distros should all adopt the slogan "Have you tried..."
[15:47] <cantoma> phreaknite: in my case is /var/log/syslog but i am using debian not shore if they call it the same
[15:48] <sevodnya> kdoafk: are you running them in WINE or are they native linux programs?
[15:48] <kdoafk> One of them is Blender and the other is Houdini for linux
[15:48] <mattgirv> kdoafk: Depending on the program, you might have to sudo make install if you havent already
[15:48] <Dr_Willis> Jinxed553:  and windows should  use the logo 'have you prayed/paied....' :)
[15:48] <phreaknite> cantoma: well ubuntu is build on debian -- my syslogs as you list them are .gz files
[15:49] <mattgirv> kdoafk: And make sure you have build-essential installed :)
[15:49] <kdoafk> I tried sudo make install but there has to be a file called "install" for that to happen right?
[15:49] <dooner> phreaknite: the .gz are archived versions
[15:49] <Dr_Willis> kdoafk:  no.
[15:49] <mintux> nobody here knows how can i use gpart ?
[15:49] <Dr_Willis> mintux:  you mean 'gparted' ?
[15:49] <cantoma> phreaknite: well my syslog just show me everything that went on boot last time
[15:49] <mattgirv> kdoafk: Try sudo apt-get install build-essential if you haven't already.
[15:49] <kdoafk> I have dealt with tar.gz files before but I have never heard of build-essentioal
[15:49] <mintux> Dr_Willis: no gpart
[15:49] <saviorFAIR> http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[15:49] <phreaknite> cantoma: thats it...
[15:49] <mintux> Dr_Willis: rewriting partition table
[15:50] <kdoafk> I will try that
[15:50] <Ahlee> shantzu: take a look at /var/log/dpkg.log - you'll most likely need to manually go through and dpkg --purge them
[15:50] <phreaknite> cantoma: ok ill post that file in my thread...
[15:50] <Jinxed553> Dr_Willis: I would be more of a fan of "Why the #$@# did that happen... why is it going so slow.... where is my install disk"
[15:50] <shantzu> Ahlee: ok, i'll have a look. thanks
[15:50] <sevodnya> kdoafk: can you try running "glxinfo|grep direct" and pasting the results?
[15:50] <cantoma> phreaknite: wait actually is dmesg
[15:50] <kdoafk> one moment
[15:51] <cantoma> phreaknite: sorry its not boot file or syslog is dmesg what you want from /var/log
[15:51] <cantoma> phreaknite: can you see it?
[15:51] <mintux> http://pastebin.com/m758dba4d
[15:51] <phreaknite> cantoma: i see it there, yes
[15:51] <phreaknite> cantoma: going to post it in my thread on the ubuntu forums...
[15:51] <kdoafk> result of glix thing: shawn@shawn-laptop:~/Desktop/mesa_tar/Mesa-7.4.2$ glxinfo|grep direct
[15:51] <kdoafk> get fences failed: -1
[15:51] <kdoafk> param: 6, val: 0
[15:51] <kdoafk> direct rendering: Yes
[15:51] <kdoafk> shawn@shawn-laptop:~/Desktop/mesa_tar/Mesa-7.4.2$
[15:51] <FloodBot1> kdoafk: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:51] <mintux> it said enter at your own risk!
[15:52] <xisco> hello I downloaded a code using bzr and now the code has been updated. which is the command to update it ?
[15:52] <sevodnya> !who | kdoafk
[15:52] <Severity1> nad do a glxgears if the geras are spinning preetily then your graphic card is rendering properly
[15:52] <kdoafk> sevodnya
[15:53] <TheNano> mintux: it is always a risk you should take all by yourself, here is a link http://www.brzitwa.de/mb/gpart/index.html
[15:53] <Severity1> kdoafk: also try the glxgears command
[15:53] <kdoafk> severity1: I have gears
[15:53] <saviorFAIR> new to ubuntu   so need some help how do i upgrade firefox after download?
[15:54] <TheNano> xisco: http://doc.bazaar-vcs.org/bzr.dev/en/user-guide/index.html
[15:54] <Dr_Willis> saviorFAIR:  use the packagfe manager/upgrade tools is the normal way.. or via command line 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade'
[15:54] <saviorFAIR> thanks
[15:54] <rockman> 是吗？
[15:55] <terrestre> Jinxed553, are you there? sudo aptitude install flashplugin-installer
[15:55] <sevodnya> saviorFAIR: firefox should automatically update along with other programs, System > Administration > Update Manager will allow you to check if there are new versions to be downloaded.
[15:55] <Jinxed553> terrestre: i am here
[15:55] <kdoafk> severity1: I tried sudo apt-get build essential and I guess that worked if I have gears right?
[15:55] <Jinxed553> i thought i tried that
[15:55] <saviorFAIR> it crashes a lot and reboots the computer did i do something wrong
[15:55] <Jinxed553> terrestre: I won't be able to do that why i am installing the restricted non free extras
[15:56] <Jinxed553> will i
[15:56] <Jinxed553> should i cancel them?
[15:56] <mattgirv> kdoafk: Er, build-essential I referred to to help you with your problem running make/make install etc
[15:56] <sevodnya> !who | saviorFAIR
[15:56] <mattgirv> kdoafk: I'd recommend running ./configure again from scratch
[15:56] <kevzhong> hi guys, I need help. I installed ubuntu on this laptop, and for some reason windows deleted all the free space I had left in this partition... what should I do?
[15:56] <mattgirv> kdoafk: And make sure it doesn't spew any errors at you
[15:56] <terrestre> Jinxed553, its better wait
[15:57] <kdoafk> and how do I "make sure"
[15:57] <sevodnya> saviorFAIR: did the crases start after a particular action on your part?
[15:57] <Severity1> yep
[15:57] <saviorFAIR> Dr willis        it crashes a lot and reboots the computer did i do something wrong
[15:57] <mattgirv> kdoafk: Er, by looking :) It will say if there are libraries missing that it needs/etc
[15:57] <Jinxed553> kevzhong: do you still have your linux running just no space?
[15:57] <kevzhong> yes
[15:57] <Jinxed553> ok
[15:57] <kdoafk> ok
[15:57] <cantoma> kevzhong: thats looks a terror movie with windows as the bad guy
[15:57] <Jinxed553> kevzhong: what version of windows
[15:58] <kevzhong> vista
[15:58] <Jinxed553> kevzhong: Use Windows disk manager to shrink your windows partion size
[15:58] <kevzhong> when I first booted vista after installing ubuntu, it did "chkdsk"
[15:58] <kevzhong> Ok
[15:58] <Jinxed553> then download the GParted live cd and burn it to cd
[15:58] <kdoafk> sevondya1: so I do ./compile
[15:58] <Jinxed553> then use it to extend the size of your linux partition
[15:59] <kdoafk> then sudo apt-get make install right?
[15:59] <mattgirv> kdoafk: No, you do ./configure .. then make.. then make install
[15:59] <kevzhong> hmm, one question, can I just uninstall ubuntu and re-install it?
[15:59] <mattgirv> kdoafk: But you may have to do sudo make install if you have permission errors (with copying the files)
[15:59] <iceroot> kevzhong: you can just re-install it and override the old one
[15:59] <kdoafk> will do
[15:59] <phreaknite> cantoma: its posted
[15:59] <phreaknite> cantoma: thanks
[15:59] <Jinxed553> kevzhong: I think technically you could shrink the linux partiton with the windows disk manager to 0 essentially making it unallocated
[15:59] <sevodnya> kdoafk: no, you will likely have to run "make" than "sudo make install"
[15:59] <Jinxed553> then reinstall linux
[16:00] <kevzhong> Ok, but its so confusing, because I cant even see anything regarding Ubuntu under windows
[16:00] <nickkontos> hello,  I'm quite new to ubuntu and super new on irc!.. my problem is that I when I download a .exe file from internet that has greek characters i don't see them - instead i see for ex. ¢à©©¦á  how do i fix this?
[16:00] <Jinxed553> but i am no expert: I just had the same problem this morning and got it to work
[16:00] <cantoma> kevzhong: did vista match ubuntu with some virus
[16:00] <kevzhong> no
[16:00] <Jinxed553> do you have the option to boot into ubuntu or windows when you start?
[16:00] <Dr_Willis> nickkontos:  i would move the file to a different named file.
[16:00] <usr13> nickkontos: exe files are not for Linux. (MS Windows only)
[16:00] <kevzhong> yes
[16:01] <usr13> nickkontos: Unless you're using wine
[16:01] <Jinxed553> so you can still boot into both?
[16:01] <kevzhong> yep
[16:01] <nickkontos> I have wine though... and i can still type in microsoft word greek text with no problem
[16:01] <mattgirv> usr13: He is, he was troubleshooting in the winehq channel :)
[16:01] <lscott3> Ok I switched over to 2 nvidia cards 3 DVI 3 Monitors easy to setup?
[16:01] <mintux> nobody help me to return my partition table? :-(
[16:01] <usr13> mattgirv: Ok, tnx
[16:01] <saviorFAIR> sevodya yes usualy when clicking on link
[16:01] <Jinxed553> well I had the same problem this morning and the method I told you worked for me (I only had 26 mb free on my linux partition)
[16:01] <nickkontos> and word can read the char inside the file
[16:01] <Sleyar> maby you have to install greek language or something
[16:01] <cantoma> nickkontos: use unicode keyboard configuration
[16:01] <usr13> mintux: What happened?
[16:02] <usr13> mintux: Do you have a backup of your MBR?
[16:02] <kevzhong> ok jinx, I'll try it. what
[16:02] <nickkontos> oh.. how do I do that?
[16:02] <kevzhong> typo^^^^
[16:03] <sevodnya> saviorFAIR: in a web browser?
[16:03] <mintux> usr13: my partition tables destroy but partitions exists . i don't have enough information to work with gpart . gpart return my last partition but i can not do this .. i have important data
[16:03] <gareth_> anyone here know anything about scripting?
[16:03] <Jinxed553> good luck... no matter what you do there are always some risks when messing with partitions
[16:03] <Jinxed553> just use some common sense about things
[16:03] <saviorFAIR> X-chat seams to do ok without crashes and yes in ff
[16:03] <kevzhong> i know... this computer is new so if anything happens ill use the recovery discs xD
[16:03] <terrestre> Jinxed553, i tried, yes flash 10 work fine in jaunty 64bit
[16:03] <saviorFAIR> yes
[16:04] <mintux> usr13: no i don't think so
[16:04] <usr13> mintux: Not sure what youre saying.  Could you re-state your issue?
[16:04] <Jinxed553> nice terrestre how do i get rid of that flash thing that i installed first
[16:05] <saviorFAIR> sevodya     yes in fire fox
[16:05] <kdoafk> sevodnya: I keep getting errors on the make command
[16:05] <gareth_> can anyone help me with using variables within scripts?
[16:05] <cemunal> does ubuntu 9.04 support nvidia-glx-71 driver devices?
[16:05] <sevodnya> saviorFAIR: is it just Firefox that crashes, or the entire system?
[16:05] <sevodnya> !pastebin | kdoafk
[16:05] <sevodnya> kdoafk: post them there
[16:05] <terrestre> Jinxed553, you need to wait until restricted installation stop. if you dont have flash after that you can try flash 10
[16:05] <mintux> usr13: how can i use with gpart . when it asked me choose 1..4 how can i know which one of them i should select
[16:05] <usr13> mintux: You probably just need to go back into gparted and adjust the partitions to suit your needs.
[16:05] <Jinxed553> alright sounds good
[16:05] <saviorFAIR> sevodnya entire system and i hav to enter pass words
[16:06] <Jinxed553> terrestre: will i need to manually get rid of sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree
[16:06] <kdoafk> hold n
[16:06] <nickkontos> I have the same problem for every windows-created file with greek filename, i can still read it but the filename is like ¢à©©¦á 
[16:06] <sevodnya> saviorFAIR: you have to log in again after clicking on a link?
[16:07] <kevzhong> jinxed, GParted is only for x86 machines, this is a 64 bit
[16:07] <kdoafk> it is doing allot of stuff now. I had to use make linux x-86-32
[16:07] <usr13> mintux: Before you start, you should examine the partitions and see where everything is at, get an idea of what you want to do and how you want to do it.  Look at fdisk -l  and study where your various filesystems are mounted, determine where the mount points are...etc.
[16:07] <ubuntu_> Hey guys. I need a little bit of help, i'm totally stumped.
[16:07] <terrestre> Jinxed553, if after ubuntu-restricted-extras installation flash didnt work, you will need to manually do sudo aptitude purge flashplugin-nonfree
[16:07] <Jinxed553> kevzhong: my laptop is 64 bit
[16:07] <saviorFAIR> sevodnya it goes black then the ubuntu login and pass words hav to be entered
[16:07] <Jinxed553> kevzhong: I was running 32 bit windows ultimate and 64 bit ubuntu 9.04
[16:08] <systat>  g
[16:08] <kevzhong> kk,
[16:08] <sevodnya> saviorFAIR: alright, that usually happens due to a graphics driver problem; did you install a non-free graphics driver?
[16:08] <lscott3> twinview 3 monitors? or just an oxymoron?
[16:08] <usr13> mintux: gparted will give you most all of that information, you should be able to tell what is what, you only need to decide what your end result should look like.
[16:08] <kdoafk> sevondya: after it gets done with the make what then?
[16:09] <terrestre> Jinxed553, i will go to install ubuntustudio now do you want the steps to install flash 10 just in case?
[16:09] <sevodnya> kdoafk: try "sudo make install" at that point
[16:09] <kdoafk> thanks
[16:09] <sevodnya> !tab | kdoafk
[16:09] <saviorFAIR> sevodnya  not that i know of everything was on the ubuntu 5.04 disk
[16:09] <nickkontos>  /msg NickServ identify 2109249302
[16:10] <kdoafk> ubottu, thanks
[16:10] <sevodnya> saviorFAIR: do you know what model of graphics card you have?
[16:10] <ubuntu_> So get this: I bring in a Ubuntu live CD (9.04) and use it to debug some issues on servers at work. By the end of the day, I've finished, and restart the machine to boot back into WindowsXP (ugh). However, after Windblows starts up, it cannot tell if a cable is plugged in. No matter what, it says 'media disconnected'. However, if i boot to ubuntu live again, the network is totally okay. I've tried uninstalling/reinstalling windows network drivers, ipconfig /
[16:10] <ubuntu_> release/renew, rebuilding the TCP/IP stack, etc, etc.
[16:10] <siddhartha> which is the most stableversion of ubuntu
[16:11] <ubuntu_> 8.10 prob'ly. give 9.04 half a year, and it should be upto speed
[16:11] <iceroot> siddhartha: 8.04
[16:11] <kdoafk> ubuntu_, yep, it messes up the MBR
[16:11] <siddhartha> i think ubuntu 8.04 is most stable version
[16:11] <siddhartha> iceroot: yes
[16:11] <Jinxed553> terrestre: sure
[16:12] <s3r3n1t7> kdoafk, how do you mean messes up the MBR? ( ubuntu_ ,read along if you like)
[16:12] <Jinxed553> what is ubuntustudio btw
[16:12] <usr13> ubuntu_: "media disconnected"  ?
[16:12] <siddhartha> 8.10 and 9.04 both are unstable
[16:12] <saviorFAIR> sevodnya  no this was a system that had xp on it that was given to me and i could not get past the pass word so i loaded/booted ubuntu
[16:12] <mannytu> sevodnya, thanks for the "tab"
[16:12] <ubuntu_> yeah; media disconnected; even if the cable is in
[16:12] <s3r3n1t7> ubuntu_, the server itself start properly? checked event viewer?
[16:12] <kdoafk> ubuntu_, check the ubuntu forums and search for my name on there kd0afk and there is a discussion on that.
[16:12]  * cemunal does ubuntu 9.04 support nvidia-glx-71 driver devices?
[16:12] <sevodnya> saviorFAIR: right, could you run "lspci|grep VGA" in a terminal and paste the results?
[16:13] <kdoafk> s3r3n1t7,  check the ubuntu forums and search for my name on there kd0afk and there is a discussion on that.
[16:13] <saviorFAIR> sevodnya i will try get back in a sec
[16:13] <s3r3n1t7> kdoafk, a live CD doesn't change anything.
[16:13] <siddhartha> except ubuntu irc channel...other irc channels are not working
[16:13] <mintux> usr13: i wanted to install a ubuntu 8.10 . but i take a mistake during installation and press install. i had a home partition with important data , when i be aware my  mistake i reboot my system ( that while the creating ext3 message appeared means this partition could not be create successfully ) now see this pic from gparted http://tinypic.info/files/9ngsva2va5bnfpysrpjs.png that i think the data and partitions are exists and only table of partitions changed
[16:13] <kdoafk> s3r3n1t7, if you install on a dual boot then it does
[16:13] <lscott3> Would anyone mind taking a look at my xorg.conf ?
[16:13] <nanook> so whats the scoop on version 9? ive heard mixed reviews
[16:14] <s3r3n1t7> kdoafk, read his problem again. he brought an Ubuntu _live_ CD to debug some issues. There's no note about any installation.
[16:14] <mintux> ** i need guide
[16:14] <mintux> sorry
[16:14] <whileimhere> I have a AMD athlon laptop with 1 gig ram. I normally use GNOME with no issues. I was wondering would compiling a program be faster if I dropped out of GNOME in the GDM and went into say the terminal from the sessions menu?
[16:14] <kdoafk> s3r3n1t7, nevermind. but I was getting the same error about the cable being disconnected
[16:14] <saviorFAIR> sevodnya  0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266]
[16:15] <siddhartha> which is the best game n ubuntu
[16:15] <s3r3n1t7> whileimhere, if you're not doing anything you'll notice only a very very very minor increase.
[16:15] <joaopinto> !best | siddhartha
[16:15] <mintux> Enter value for 1 :
[16:16] <mobi-sheep> siddhartha: Mines!
[16:16] <usr13> mintux: You might put the drive in another Linux computer and read the drive, but other than that, I don't know.
[16:16] <kdoafk> sevodnya, I did the sudo make install and although I haven't read the whole return, it looks like no errors. thanks
[16:16] <mintux> fantastic
[16:16] <whileimhere> s3r3n1t7: I thought so. Yeah not doing anything. I will most likely walk away and go work in the yard.
[16:16] <usr13> mintux: Or just pop in the live CD and read it.
[16:16] <whileimhere> Are there any optimization flags to add to the make command?
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[16:17] <terrestre> Jinxed553,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/173082/ <-- hope this help
[16:17] <kdoafk> sevodnya, now to see if it helped
[16:17] <usr13> mintux: Copy files to USB thumb drive... or...
[16:17] <s3r3n1t7> whileimhere, on multicore systems add -j <cores+1> to it, say for a dualcore system -j 3
[16:17] <mobi-sheep> siddhartha: Mine too!
[16:17] <Jinxed553> terrestre: much thanks
[16:17] <mintux> usr13:im in live cd now and try to solve my problems
[16:17] <Brack10> My wireless card keeps complaining to stderr, and it shows up on top of everything I'm trying to do on my virtual consoles...how can I fix this?  I'll check logs if I need error messages
[16:17] <siddhartha> external HDD is not detected in ubuntu 8.04
[16:17] <whileimhere> s3r3n1t7:'( no just a basic 1 processor laptop nothing fancy
[16:17] <usr13> mintux: That's about all the suggestions I can give. Maybe someone else has information you can get, but as for me, that's all I know.
[16:18] <captivus> Good morning.  I have a curious problem with my wireless card in Jaunty.  If, for any reason, it discononects from the wirelss access point, I cannot reconnect.  Does anyone have any idea why this is happening?
[16:18] <mintux> usr13: do you undrestand i don't have any partition and everything remove it ( actually partition tables ) if i have access to my data i know what shall i do
[16:18] <mintux> ok
[16:18] <s3r3n1t7> whileimhere, then i'm afraid there's no faster way then just patience.
[16:18] <siddhartha> how to detect external HDD( file system: ntfs) in ubuntu 8.04
[16:18] <kdoafk> my bios is set up to boot from floppy disc and I own a laptop
[16:19] <usr13> captivus: you might try turning off network manager.  Is this a laptop?
[16:19] <whileimhere>  s3r3n1t7 What I really meant was to improve the actual program not the time it takes to compile. Any ideas?
[16:19] <captivus> usr13: Yes, it is.
[16:19] <siddhartha> need help ... how to detect external HDD( file system: ntfs) in ubuntu 8.04
[16:19] <captivus> ...and I'm using the B43legacy driver
[16:19] <s3r3n1t7> whileimhere, that's kinda program specific generally. What are you compiling?
[16:19] <whileimhere> Advanced MAME
[16:19] <usr13> captivus: Try toggeling the device off and on with the keyboard.
[16:19] <kdoafk> sevodnya, Well, the software installed correctly but still Houdini and Blender are all messed up.
[16:19] <s3r3n1t7> whileimhere, not sure ... haven't heard about the program, so can't say much about it
[16:20] <whileimhere> No biggie. It just hates Pulse audio.
[16:20] <kdoafk> thanks for helping though guys
[16:20] <whileimhere> How can I install a new set of non GNOME fonts that I have?
[16:20] <Captain_Cool> anyone know any software that can speed up pause or reverse time?
[16:20] <captivus> usr13: My laptop doesn't have a keyboard toggle for the wireless card.  (It's a few years old.)
[16:20] <siddhartha> any application to watch nternet tv in ubuntu 8.04
[16:20] <saviorfair> sevdonya
[16:20] <kdoafk> Captain_Cool, my laptop makes time irrelivant
[16:20] <s3r3n1t7> !fonts | whileimhere
[16:20] <siddhartha> any application to watch internet tv in ubuntu 8.04
[16:21] <Xcell> siddhartha-  vlc
[16:21] <kdoafk> Captain_Cool, I call it my time machine
[16:21] <Xcell> ?
[16:21] <usr13> captivus: I really don't know why it would do that.  You could restart the network; sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart   (A future update may fix the problem.)
[16:21] <whileimhere> I am so sorry I meant icons. I am think about to many things.
[16:21] <kdoafk> I gotta go, later
[16:21] <kdoafk> quit
[16:21] <saviorfair> sevdonya what was that vga line  to run in terminal
[16:21] <Captain_Cool> is that the same one leonard nimoy has?
[16:21] <usr13> kdoafk: WHy go later when you could go now?
[16:22] <usr13> kdoafk: BTW, you didn't quit.
[16:22] <kdoafk> usr13, HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH......................HA
[16:22] <Xcell> dorkalorkalert
[16:22] <Captain_Cool> hey, who here loves LINUX!
[16:23] <captivus> usr13: That didn't seem to work ... :(
[16:23] <SingAlong_> Hi all
[16:23] <Severity1> i like it
[16:23] <Xcell> ill never do windoze again
[16:23] <Captain_Cool> even windows 7
[16:23] <SingAlong_> I connected to my Sony erricson W200i phone using /dev/bus/usb/006/005 as it appeared in lsusb. But I'm getting an error that reads "phone not found/connected"
[16:23] <siddhartha> any application to watch internet tv in ubuntu 8.04
[16:23] <SingAlong_> I'm connecting via gammu
[16:24] <Xcell> mythtv..or whatever its callede
[16:24] <Severity1> i so wish that windouse 7 to be a failure
[16:24] <SingAlong_> I could read my smses around an hour ago. but isnt connecting suddenly
[16:24] <ubuntu-chile> que ocurre con ubuntu 9.04
[16:24] <Captain_Cool> it won't be
[16:24] <ubuntu-chile> no me da aceleracion 3d
[16:24] <Captain_Cool> cus its quite good
[16:25] <ubuntu-chile> cual es la solucion
[16:25] <VCoolio> !es | ubuntu-chile
[16:25] <saviorfair> sevodnya it crashed  and i am back
[16:26] <SingAlong_> anyone please?
[16:26] <sevodnya> saviorfair: can you see if running "glxgears" in a terminal causes a crash?
[16:26] <nickkontos>  when I download a (windows created) file from internet that has greek characters i don't see them - instead i see for example ¢à©©¦á  if the file has greek inside i can read them (for example a greek word, i can see the text inside but the filename is like greek to me:p )
[16:26] <nickkontos> please help..
[16:27] <tokyoahead> hi all any idea how I can debug a black screen in ubuntu after the boot progress bar appears?
[16:27] <usr13> nickkontos: What type of file is it?
[16:27] <usr13> nickkontos: What is the file?
[16:27] <nickkontos> any type  of windows created
[16:27] <nickkontos> for ex .exe .doc ...
[16:27] <mun> if i upgrade to jaunty from hardy, will the system settings be preserved?
[16:27] <nickkontos> .pdf
[16:27] <siddhartha> any internet radio in ubuntu
[16:27] <usr13> nickkontos: You need to give us more information.
[16:27] <nickkontos> ok, ask me
[16:28] <nickkontos> what do you want to know?
[16:28] <captivus> mun: Yes
[16:28] <Severity1> can you still use the file?
[16:28] <mun> captivus, how about from hardy?
[16:28] <nickkontos> i'm running ubuntu 9.04
[16:28] <eseven73> mun,  you'll have to upgrade to 8.10 first though
[16:28] <captivus> mun: You need to do an incremental upgrade
[16:28] <siddhartha> any application for internet radio in ubuntu
[16:28] <Severity1> nickkontos: did the files open?
[16:28] <sacarlson> ﻿tokyoahead:  might try add to the kernel boot line vga=791
[16:28] <nickkontos> yes
[16:29] <Severity1> file naming in linux is a bit different from windouse
[16:29] <mun> is the chance of breaking somewhere in 8.04->8.10->9.04 high?
[16:29] <nickkontos> I can open them and read them correctly
[16:29] <usr13> nickkontos: What is the file?  Were did you get it?  What is it for?  What is it supposed to do?  (Without seeing the file there is little chance we can give you any advice on what to do with it.)
[16:29] <eseven73> mun, better to do a clean install if you can
[16:29] <Severity1> problem solved just rename the file
[16:29] <mun> eseven73, why's that?
[16:29] <usr13> nickkontos: file filename
[16:29] <meher> Hi. I would like to know some details about setting up an Ubuntu official repository. Can someone please guide me??
[16:30] <usr13> nickkontos: where "filename" is the actual name of the file.
[16:30] <mun> is upgrading from hardy or interpid to jaunty actually worthwhile?
[16:30] <gareth_> can anyone here help me design a script for renaming files?
[16:30] <joe_> sevodnya no crash pretty gears
[16:30] <meher> ﻿Hi. I would like to know some details about setting up an Ubuntu official repository. Can someone please guide me??
[16:31] <eseven73> mun, it's just better generally to do a clean install if possible, you're mileage my vary.
[16:31] <usr13> gareth_: Sure... what do you need to do?
[16:31] <meher> i am a student in india
[16:31] <siddhartha> any firewall in ubntu
[16:31] <dooner> gareth_:  http://www.sourcefiles.org/Utilities/Text_Utilities/chcase.pl
[16:31] <meher> i need to setup a repo server
[16:31] <gareth_> rename all the files in a directory to 0001.zip, 0002.zip etc
[16:31] <Brack10> siddhartha: iptables
[16:31] <meher> so that all students in my institute can access important updates quickly
[16:31] <sacarlson> siddhartha !firewall
[16:31] <nickkontos> http://www.ypepth.gr/docs/28_9_07_dt1.zip
[16:31] <gareth_> but I have no idea how to use variables in scripts
[16:31] <nickkontos> inside the zip there are some .doc files
[16:32] <sacarlson> !firewall
[16:32] <Brack10> gareth_: #bash is your place
[16:32] <gareth_> thanks Brack10
[16:32] <meher> ﻿Hi. I would like to know some details about setting up an Ubuntu official repository. Can someone please guide me??
[16:32] <eseven73> mun, going from upgrade to upgrade means more things can go wrong (And usually do) , although I went from 8.10 to 9.04 no problems really accept Nvidia driver issues
[16:32] <nickkontos> i can't read these filenames but i can open and read the files
 : how can i run it in startup
[16:32] <joe_> saviorfair is now joe_ sevodnya
[16:33] <nickkontos> and the greek text inside the files is very readable
[16:33] <sevodnya> joe_: have you installed flash for firefox?
[16:33] <siddhartha> how to run firestarter in start up
[16:34] <usser> nickkontos, ntfs partition?
[16:34] <eseven73> !startup | siddhartha
[16:34] <joe_> sevodnya its still running and tryed but cant find it to uninstall
[16:34] <meher> ﻿Hi. I would like to know some details about setting up an Ubuntu official repository. Can someone please guide me??
[16:34] <meher> ﻿Hi. I would like to know some details about setting up an Ubuntu official repository. Can someone please guide me??
[16:34] <nickkontos> I have three partitions, 1 ext3, 1ntfs and 1swap
[16:34] <usr13> Brack10: siddhartha iptables is not a firewall.
[16:34] <badeagle01> ask again
[16:34] <sevodnya> joe_: do you know if the pages that cause the crash have flash or other media on them?
[16:35] <eseven73> will your repository be double too? or is that just how you type meher? :P
[16:35] <pepperjack> meher: someone in #ubuntu-offtopic may be able to direct you
[16:35] <meher> ok
[16:35] <meher> thanks
[16:35] <joe_> sevodnya possible? dont know
[16:35] <s3r3n1t7> usr13, could you explain that statement about iptables not being a firewall?
[16:35] <usr13> Brack10: siddhartha iptables rules can be used to create a firewall but what you probably want to install is firestarter.
[16:35] <usser> nickkontos, the unreadable filenames are on an ntfs partition?
[16:35] <usr13> s3r3n1t7: see above
[16:36] <nickkontos> no, they are on my desktop
[16:36] <rcmysoft> hey, Ubuntu 9.04 The System Langude is german OpenOffice 3.0 is English how can i change it to german. Should i reinstall language-pack-de?
[16:36] <nickkontos> but i still can't read them even if i transfer them to my ntfs
[16:36] <Exilant> openoffice has its own language pack afaik
[16:36] <s3r3n1t7> usr13, may i point you at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFirewall and ask you to read the first part?
[16:36] <siddhartha> user13 : how can i set iptable rules
[16:36] <nickkontos> i can read the normally through windows..
[16:36] <usser> nickkontos, on a regular ubuntu? did you install language pack for your language?
[16:36] <usr13> s3r3n1t7: iptables is an administration tool for IPv4 packet filtering and NAT
[16:37] <Severity1> nickkontos: filenaming in windows and linux are different so you get all this jumbled up names... you can open the files without problems right? just rename it.
[16:37] <dirtbag666> Hi there! One of many annoying problems after update to Kubuntu Jaunty: I can't disable energy save features!!! I tried xset -s off, disabling all screensaver and energy save options, but with no user action (keyboard or mouse), my screen will turn black after a few minutes. Ideas, anyone? :-(
[16:37] <sevodnya> joe_: you might give this a try, it worked for me a while back: http://grumpymole.blogspot.com/2006/10/ubuntu-firefox-flash-crash-this-fix.html
[16:37] <rcmysoft> Exilant do you know the name for german lang=
[16:37] <usr13> s3r3n1t7: firestarter is a firewall application.
[16:37] <s3r3n1t7> usr13, then what is your definition of  a firewall?
[16:37] <joe_> will try
[16:37] <s3r3n1t7> usr13, firestarter is a frontend to iptables.
[16:38] <TX-Dan> Is it possible to run TeamFortress2 some how on Ubuntu? What software would I need to make that happen?
[16:38] <e1nh4nd3r> Wine, probably.
[16:38] <hatter243> TX-Dan, Wine
[16:38] <usser> TX-Dan, yes it should run with wine
[16:38] <nickkontos> yes, the problem is solved if I rename. But! when I manage to run a simple .exe file in wine, I got these unreadble characters all over the program, even when I type
[16:39] <nickkontos> And this is with EVERY greek .exe
[16:39] <hatter243> nickkontos, Have you installed the font required by that program?
[16:39] <hatter243> Nice
[16:39] <usser> nickkontos, wine is an entirely different beast alltogether, it probably needs greek windows fonts.
[16:39] <hatter243> He left, hah
[16:39] <Severity1> ooooohhhhhh wine
[16:39] <TX-Dan> hatter243, usser, looking into it thanks.
[16:39] <Severity1> copy your greek fonts ttf stuff to your wine
[16:40] <siddhartha> is it possible to call a friend in google talk (pidgin)
[16:40] <usser> TX-Dan, run it with -dxlevel 81 switch, if the perfomance is bad
[16:40] <sevodnya> siddhartha: that's not currently supported
[16:40] <joaopinto> siddhartha, pidgin does not support voice/video
[16:40] <siddhartha> what is telepathy
[16:40] <usser> nickkontos, wine is an entirely different beast alltogether, it probably needs greek windows fonts.
[16:40] <usr13> s3r3n1t7: A firewall, (as far as linux is concerned), is a set of rules that blocks unwanted traffic from and to your PC.  There are two types of firewalls;  Firewall applications that runs on your PC to block traffic to and from that PC.  Second type is a stand alone firewall, that is a separate device that you place between  your PC and the untrusted network.
[16:40] <hatter243> !info telepathy | siddhartha
[16:41] <hatter243> =/
[16:41] <usr13> s3r3n1t7: A firewall script is a firewall
[16:41] <usser> usr13, so effectively iptables rules constitute a firewall.
[16:41] <rcmysoft> should i install openoffice.org-l10n-de for openoffice 3.0 to be in German?
[16:41] <s3r3n1t7> usr13, so iptables would be considered a firewall by that definition.
[16:41] <DjAngo23> Hey guys, how to change the default application opening a php file for example ?
[16:41] <usser> usr13, and since iptables comes with a default set of rules, that can only mean that iptables is a firewall
[16:41] <DjAngo23> Everytime i use other program, it works one time only
[16:42] <dirtbag666> rcmysoft: Probier's einfach, das Paket ist ja sicher nicht sehr groß
[16:42] <FloridaGuy> when doing net install or alternate install cd....what does the kernel targeted mean only drivers needed for the system
[16:42] <nickkontos> i was thinking that if i solve this problem in ubuntu then the problem in wine should fix itself...
[16:42] <siddhartha> i would like to know about telepathy and its uses
[16:42] <Fallenou> what is : leningradskaya.canonical.com.www ?
[16:42] <sevodnya> siddhartha: you could try installing the official Google Talk client using WINE, though
[16:42] <MrPunkin> What is the default mail app? I am told root has mail (logged in as root) but am told no program is installed when running 'mail'
[16:43] <hatter243> nickkontos, Have you installed the font required by that program?
[16:43] <usser> Fallenou, russians man, they are taking over
[16:43] <Fallenou> i got this in my tcpdump -i tun0
[16:43] <Fallenou> in my vpn
 will it work ...
[16:43] <lscott3> Anyone use 3 monitors in here?
[16:43] <usser> Fallenou, thats one of the server, ubuntu repositories are hosted on
[16:43] <nickkontos> no, neither in ubuntu and wine
[16:43] <Fallenou> ooh ok :)
[16:43] <pepperjack> DjAngo23: nautilus controls this so just open file manager and right-click on file and basically open with and make default
[16:43] <sevodnya> siddhartha: Google suggests it might: http://ocaoimh.ie/2005/08/26/google-talk-on-linux/
[16:43] <lenswipe> does anyone know how i can run a command over SSH so that even if i close the SSH connection the command keeps running
[16:44] <usr13> s3r3n1t7 usser It is safe to say that iptables rules constitute a firewall  Yes.
[16:44] <pepperjack> lenswipe: yes
[16:44] <Fallenou> i thought i was spied by the KGB thx usser :p
[16:44] <nickkontos> but i dont know what kind of font it needs and how to install it
[16:44] <usser> lenswipe, nohup command &
[16:44] <hatter243> nickkontos, then greek programs will be unable to display the greek font, creating all sorts of wacky characters. You don't need to install it in Ubuntu, you need to install it in Wine
[16:44] <nickkontos> i've googled a lot...
[16:44] <dooner> lenswipe: or if the command produces output could run it in screen.
[16:44] <DjAngo23> pepperjack: I did that but can't find the option make default
[16:44] <lenswipe> i want to download an ISO image but i want to shift the load onto my headless ubuntu server and i want to have the ISO continue downloading even if i close the ssh connection
[16:44] <WinterWeaver> is there a pidgin plugin to mark myself offline to a specific buddy >.<
[16:45] <lenswipe> basically...
[16:45] <s3r3n1t7> usr13, ==> <usr13> Brack10: siddhartha iptables is not a firewall. <== now i'm confused
[16:45] <mintux> dooner how much time you are in this channel ?
[16:45] <lenswipe> WinterWeaver: try block :)
[16:45] <hatter243> nickkontos, the problem is, there isn't any easy way to discover the font used by the program, you pretty much have to ask the writer of that program. Maybe #wine will know some generic Greek fonts
[16:45] <nickkontos> and when i install it in wine, will it still display wacky characters in ubuntu?
[16:45] <sebsebseb> WinterWeaver: maybe   you can try finding out in #pidgin
[16:45] <lenswipe> pepperjack: could i do waht i said above?
[16:45] <dooner> lenswipe:  install screen.  you can then detach it and come back to it later.
[16:45] <WinterWeaver> lenswipe, I dont want to block them entirely... just dont watn them to think I'm here
[16:45] <hatter243> nickkontos, the .exe you're running is a windows program, it has nothing to do with ubuntu
[16:45] <tzanger> good morning
[16:45] <WinterWeaver> thx sebsebseb, didn't know it had a chnnel O.o
[16:46] <lenswipe> dooner: i just want to have it run while im away tho
[16:46] <dooner> lenswipe: it will
[16:46] <pepperjack> DjAngo23: youre right... sorry im used to thunar when using a file manager. not sure about nautilus
[16:46] <dooner> lenswipe:  !screen
[16:46] <mintux> are there any body be in this channel in 4- 5 hour ago and copy all text in channel ( with my last questions and links ) for me
[16:46] <lenswipe> dooner: i know but i want to run it over an ssh connection
[16:46] <nickkontos> ooohhh... i see! thanks hatter243!
[16:46] <mintux> please
[16:46] <sebsebseb> WinterWeaver: np
[16:46] <pepperjack> lenswipe: yeah that would be my suggestion as well
[16:46] <hatter243> nickkontos, Good luck!
[16:46] <tzanger> if I have added the xorg-edgers repository (to try and see if the newer intel xorg driver helps with my stability problems) -- how do I revert to the non-xorg-edgers intel driver?
[16:46] <lenswipe> dooner: belive me where my linux box is connecting a screen would be a real arse
[16:46] <usr13> s3r3n1t7 usser  iptables rules, when assembled correctly into a script can be used to protect from unwanted traffic and that type of protection is called firewalling your PC.  A firewall is an application that does that for you.
[16:46] <dooner> lenswipe: screen is a program :)
[16:46] <mintux> i past a table of my partitions here before... in 3-4 hour ago
[16:46] <siddhartha> what s telepathu and its uses in ubuntu hardy
[16:46] <lenswipe> i was wondering if i could use wget and shove a & on the end
[16:46] <dooner> !screen
[16:47] <lenswipe> kl kl
[16:47] <usser> nickkontos, linux filesystems use utf for filenames windows uses old style encodings where each language had its own encoding. renaming the files would force utf, for wine the program probably needs a font to display the characters it has nothing to do with encodings
[16:47] <gartral> how do i force ALL instances of my username to log out??
[16:47] <BLTnoTomato> is there a link checking software for website in ubuntu, preferable something in php or that can be run from cron job?
[16:47] <mintux> does the text's of this channel log anywhere ???
[16:47] <mintux> i need log of #ubuntu in 4-5 hour ago
[16:47] <mintux> please somebody pastbin it for me
[16:48] <siddhartha> someone pls suggest me a good multi threaded download manager
[16:48] <lenswipe> dooner: do you know if i could use wget then shove an & on the end of it?
[16:48] <dooner> mintux I am here on and off,  normally keep IRC running in background while @ the office.
[16:48] <n8tuser> usser utf? isnt that freebsd thing? or was it apple ox?
[16:48] <siddhartha> in ubuntu
[16:48] <usser> usr13, thats semantics :) if you want to go further, iptables is not the one responsible for blocking the traffic, all traffic shaping is done by kernel and iptables is just a frontend
[16:48] <sevodnya> !log | mintux
[16:48] <PaperEngineer> does anybody know about using Wacom graphics tablets?  Mine used to work back on version 7.10, but since, has a weird problem.  the pointer movement works fine, but touching the tablet doesnt do anything.  the tablet appears to know that its being tapped, just the box doesnt respond.
[16:48] <hatter243> gartral, "pkill -KILL -u [username]"
[16:48] <usr13> s3r3n1t7: If  you want an easy to use firewall application, install firestarter.  If you are interested in building a firewall, download ipcop or smoothwall or monowall and burn a CD and make your own "stand-alone" firewall.
[16:48] <usser> n8tuser, utf is a universal encoding nowadays, pretty much everyone uses it.
[16:48] <usser> n8tuser, unicode
[16:48] <gartral> hatter243: sudo, yes?
[16:48] <hatter243> gartral, unless you're killing yourself, yes
[16:49] <gartral> i am killing myself
[16:49] <lenswipe> dooner: do you know if i could use wget then shove an & on the end of it?
[16:49] <n8tuser> usser correct, i misread it as ufs
[16:49] <hatter243> gartral, then you don't need sudo to kill your own processes
[16:49] <hatter243> rofl
[16:49] <s3r3n1t7> usr13, there's indeed 2 kinda of firewalls. Iptables is generally a backend for most of the firewalls used on ubuntu, and it can be used on its own, thus i consider iptables to be a firewall. Well let's end the discussion about this, we're goin offtopic.
[16:49] <hatter243> I guess it worked
[16:49] <usser> lenswipe, yes sure
[16:49] <lenswipe> uuser: so that would work? thanks :)
[16:50] <ctp_> hi folks. i try to install 9.04 using ext4 and encryption within lvm. same like guidedd partitioning but ext4 instead of ext3. should i first create lvm and then within encryption partition or the other way: at first encryption container, then lvm and then the partitions?
[16:50] <usser> lenswipe, dont forget nohup, otherwise wget is going to die as soon as you disconnect from the server
[16:50] <usr13> usser: You can call iptables a firewall if you want to, but it is missleading to tell people that iptables is a firewall because it just isn't.
[16:50] <lenswipe> uuser: how?
[16:50] <lenswipe> uuser: how do i use nohup?
[16:50] <siddhartha> what is the difference between ext3 and ext4 file system
[16:51] <cantoma> lenswipe: man nohup
[16:51] <dooner> lenswipe:  nohup wget url > /dev/null 2>&1 &   I think should work.
[16:51] <sebsebseb> siddhartha: Ext3 has been around for years and is rather stable.   Ext4 has a few issues  that are mentioned in the release notes.   it checks the disk quicker and better with bigger files they say
[16:51] <sebsebseb> !notes
[16:51] <usser> lenswipe, ^
[16:51] <lscott3> Anyone with great knowledge with multi monitors/multi same brand video cards?
[16:51] <t3pleni9> nothing much just might be the amount of address space may vary
[16:51] <sebsebseb> siddhartha: see above for release notes link
[16:52] <usser> lenswipe, you dont have to redirect the output if above command is hard to read, nohup wget http://google.com & should do
[16:52] <lenswipe> dooner: so i replace url with the URL of the ISO i want to download?
[16:52] <lenswipe> thanks
[16:52] <dooner> lenswipe: correct  (i don't use wget, so wasn't sure if it had output...)
[16:52] <siddhartha> is the new kernel isstable
[16:52] <usser> lenswipe, it will create a file nohup.out to which all the output from wget will be redirected
[16:52] <lenswipe> uuser: i will be closing the SSH window tho, does it matter if i dont see the output of the command?
[16:52] <lenswipe> k
[16:53] <sebsebseb> siddhartha: you could install your own kernel,  but   I  woudn't really recommend doing so for distros such as Ubuntu,   if  you were  using Gentoo for example, well then sure if you want
[16:53] <lorenzosu> Hi all I have a problem upgrading from 8.10 to 9.04 I pasted the error here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/173101/
[16:54] <siddhartha> how can i install any kernel
[16:54] <sebsebseb> siddhartha: just  get the kernel updates  when they are available for Ubuntu :)
[16:54] <usser> siddhartha, by compiling your own
[16:54] <localgod11> I was trying to install lirc and it went backnow I cant remove it and when i try to install anything I recieve:  E:sub-process /usr/bun/dpkg returned error code (1)
[16:54] <localgod11> 90
[16:54] <joaopinto> siddhartha, unless you are an experienced user, keep with the default kernel
[16:54] <vasi> siddhartha: is there a reason you want a new kernel? is there a bug in the current one that is affecting you?
 i would lke to nstall old kernel in ubuntu 9.04
[16:54] <tokyoahead> guys my linux install on a new laptop freezes w/o starting xorg... how can I switch off the progress screen so I can see how far it boots up and what is actually causing it to crash?
[16:54] <vasi> localgod11: could you paste the full output?
[16:55] <cantoma> siddhartha: did you try to google it?
[16:55] <smokie`> hey guys, ubuntu blocks ports by default, right?
[16:55] <e1nh4nd3r> tokyoahead: Try hitting F2 during boot, and it should display the normal console output during startup.
[16:55] <vasi> tokyoahead: at the boot menu, press F6 and a little line of text will show up
[16:55] <e1nh4nd3r> they changed to F6?
[16:55] <sebsebseb> siddhartha: old kernel and 9.04   does not sound  like they are going to play nice with each other.   plus the old kernel will have bugs that a later one does not have
[16:55] <gartral> ook how do i get a GDM logon window from a xming client?
[16:55] <mbeierl> tokyoahead: edit the boot line when at the grub menu and remove "quiet" "splash"
 'll google it
[16:55] <tokyoahead> mbeierl: did that already did not help
[16:55] <vasi> e1nh4nd3r: er, F6 is for the boot parameters, you can remove 'splash' and 'quiet'
[16:55] <jimcooncat> sebsebseb: should be no big difference between compiling a kernel in gentoo and ubuntu -- just that more people do it when they have gentoo.
[16:55] <cantoma> joaopinto: there is always space for learning
[16:55] <vasi> e1nh4nd3r: but maybe F2 boots verbosely and i just never knew it
[16:56] <sebsebseb> jimcooncat: yeah
[16:56] <usser> gartral, i'd really suggest you use freenx
[16:56] <lorenzosu> Hi all I have a problem upgrading from 8.10 to 9.04 I pasted the error here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/173101/
 : is the new kernel totally bug free
[16:56] <e1nh4nd3r> vasi: Ohhhh, my bad. :) F2 is just the key that enables the console display during progress-screen?
[16:56] <sebsebseb> siddhartha: of course not
[16:56] <vasi> e1nh4nd3r: i actually have no idea off the top of my head what F2 does!
[16:56]  * mimor is dood
[16:56] <usser> gartral, http://www.nomachine.com/download-client-windows.php
[16:56] <e1nh4nd3r> Will have to investigate... *notes*
[16:57] <joaopinto> cantoma, right, but compiling your own kernel is probably not the best place to start
[16:57] <localgod11> http://pastebin.com/m7ef94f2f
[16:57] <sebsebseb> siddhartha: is any big software totally  no bugs?  nope
[16:57] <cantoma> joaopinto: i did it .. don't see many problems
[16:57] <tokyoahead> e1nh4nd3r: vasi: mbeier: I tried to remove "quiet" from the boot line and hiut F2 and F6 but nothing changed. I see the ubuntu logo with the progress indicator moving from left to right and back and the na black screen comes and its stuck there
[16:57] <usser> cantoma, how big is the resulting binary?
[16:57] <vasi> tokyoahead: you need to remove 'splash' as well
[16:57] <cantoma> usser: its huge
[16:58]  * jimcooncat thinks that software with no bugs means someone's not testing it enough
[16:58] <tokyoahead> vasi: there is no splash
[16:58] <usser> cantoma, last time i did i ended up with 500mb file
[16:58] <vasi> localgod11: have you tried following the instructions, and reinstalling lirc?
[16:58] <localgod11> yes
[16:58] <cantoma> usser: get rid of modules
[16:58] <usser> cantoma, ubuntu package is like 70mb
[16:58] <siddhartha> how can i update vlc in ubuntu 8.04
[16:58] <vasi> tokyoahead: hmm, add 'nosplash' mayble? </wild-ass-guess>
[16:58] <usser> cantoma, i did to the best of my knowledge :)
[16:58] <vasi> localgod11: so you ran 'apt-get install --reinstall lirc'? and what happened?
[16:59] <cantoma> usser: if you add many modules will be huge .. if you just add them to be inline then its smaller
[16:59] <localgod11> vasi:  still recieve error code (1)
[16:59] <tokyoahead> vasi that crashes it right away and reboots the machine :-)
[16:59] <vasi> tokyoahead: so much for my guess!
[16:59] <tokyoahead> :-)
[16:59] <joaopinto> siddhartha, could you please read some documentation first ? You are just posrting a long sequence of questions, you really should read something to start with, like http://help.ubuntu.com
[17:00] <e1nh4nd3r> tokyoahead: Sounds to me like the build is boned. Did you just install or upgrade?
[17:00] <vasi> localgod11: on the reinstall you also get the same error? ugh...i'm stumped
 i got nothing there to ugrade vlc in ubuntu 8.04, thats why i'm asking
[17:00] <tokyoahead> e1nh4nd3r: I installed on a virgin drive with a newly downloeded CD
[17:00] <e1nh4nd3r> Hmmm... does 8.10 work?
[17:00] <tokyoahead> e1nh4nd3r: (vista is already installed however
[17:01] <The_Faithful> I have the version 2.6.28.2 of my kernel and I want to patch it to 2.6.28.10.. but I got this message : "can't find file to patch at input line x".. what this message means and how can I solve this problem ?
[17:01] <e1nh4nd3r> Or rather, -did- it?
[17:01] <lorenzosu> Hi all I have a problem upgrading from 8.10 to 9.04 I pasted the error here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/173101/
[17:01] <thehumph> I was playing around with ndiswrapper (I was formerly using the default wifi stuff that comes with Jaunty) and think I've uninstalled my wifi driver. I can't use the default networking tool to connect to my wifi, and lshw indicates no driver is installed for my wifi card (says UNCLAIMED) - is there a way to revert back to the driver that comes with Ubuntu?
[17:01] <mintux> NOw i have some thing : my partition table lost . but i partition and data exists . i have these: 1-the (lost )partitions list http://tinypic.info/files/uz78xo5jmn5lg103uxen.png 2-lost partitions tables with details in fdisk http://pastebin.com/m59f80016 3-now the partition list changed to http://pastebin.com/m32c0cb32 and gparted is http://tinypic.info/files/9ngsva2va5bnfpysrpjs.png 5- in gpart i have this http://pastebin.com/m14c81f2b   ||| now i would like 
[17:01] <tokyoahead> e1nh4nd3r: talking to me about 8.1? did not try it yet. the machine is brand-new
[17:02] <tokyoahead> e1nh4nd3r: you recommend me to try and download it?
[17:02] <e1nh4nd3r> tokyoahead: I'm not an expert, but I would say if 8.10 works and 9.04 doesn't, maybe there's a different build/driver that changed between the old and new versions that is causing you problems.
[17:02] <tokyoahead> e1nh4nd3r: hmm ok... let me try 8.1... thanks
[17:03] <martin__> \channel list
[17:03] <sebsebseb> tokyoahead: 8.10 is better than 9.04 in certain ways even :)
[17:03] <devs> Hi
[17:03] <sebsebseb> devs: hi
[17:03] <e1nh4nd3r> tokyoahead: Might be able to narrow it down to a build/driver problem, and in which case you could find out what your video card/chip is and people might be able to help you solve that compile/config problem.
[17:03] <devs> i have set up and ubuntu machine with two NIC
[17:03] <devs> i need the LAN network to go through an external proxy
[17:04] <devs> how can i allow all LAN users to get to a proxy server
[17:04] <pepperjack> for like http traffic or all traffic?
[17:04] <devs> jus http traffic
[17:04] <devs> LAN 192.168.10.1
[17:04] <tokyoahead> e1nh4nd3r: ok good to know
[17:04] <ikonia> devs: you need to run a proxy or forwarding service of some type
[17:04] <devs> WAN 203.121.4.5x
[17:04] <e1nh4nd3r> tokyoahead: Hope that helped. :)
[17:04] <devs> how?
[17:05] <devs> what do i need to do?
[17:05] <bo7amny> clear
[17:05] <ikonia> devs: run a proxy or forwarding service
[17:05] <devs> what dhoud i set up
[17:05] <kurimaw> guys what's the command line to check the RAM capacity or the avail RAM space?
[17:05] <tokyoahead> e1nh4nd3r: actually ust started in recovery mode and it seems to work :-)
[17:05] <ikonia> kurimaw: free
[17:05] <devs> do i need to install a proxy froward
[17:05] <kurimaw> ok
[17:05] <ikonia> devs: look at "squid"
[17:05] <kurimaw> thanks
[17:05] <tokyoahead> e1nh4nd3r: now I have to find out what does not work in normal mode :-)
[17:06] <devs> yes i have installed squid
[17:06] <devs> but im not sure the settings
[17:06] <mintux> no solution ?
[17:06] <devs> shoud i set a transparent proxy
[17:06] <e1nh4nd3r> tokyoahead: We'll be here. :)
[17:06] <devs> i dont want users to enter anythingonb thr broweser
[17:06] <ikonia> devs: then you need to setup forwarding
[17:06] <devs> whats that
[17:06] <devs> ?
[17:06] <devs> im neew
[17:06] <lorenzosu> How can I remove all older kernels?
[17:06] <tokyoahead> e1nh4nd3r: thanks for the help :-)
[17:06] <mozul> sorry to barge in, but my ubuntu computer said "your computer failed to hibernate see the error log" What do i do next.  Does someone want to help me?
[17:06] <ikonia> devs: is this for work/school/fun ?
[17:07] <devs> for work
[17:07] <e1nh4nd3r> tokyoahead: No problem! Amatueurs helping amateurs. :)
[17:07] <ikonia> devs: then I strongly advise you to get help from your work friends as the wrong configs could leave your network open
[17:07] <siddhartha> what is internetjargon
[17:07] <devs> where do i set the config
[17:07] <siddhartha> what is internet jargon
[17:07] <devs> at IP tables?
[17:08] <ikonia> devs: I strongly strongly advise you to get help from work - if this is a work project
[17:08] <devs> but im the only one doing lInux
[17:08] <devs> linux
[17:08] <glitsj16> mintux: still looking for a channel log ? if so, http://irclogs.ubuntu.com
[17:08] <devs> i have set IP forarding
[17:08] <gartral> !freemx
[17:08] <g0tcha> hey guys, whats the conf file for vncserver on ubuntu?
[17:08] <mintux> glitsj16 i found it
[17:09] <g0tcha> i mean where is it located?
[17:09] <lorenzosu> How can I remove all older kernels?
[17:09] <ikonia> devs: if you make a mistake you could open your network up quite bad, speak to your network administrator and ask him how he would like it done
[17:09] <systat> Hi, My USB mouse doesn't seem to work on my laptop
[17:09] <L3dPlatedLinux> how would I get epsx or whatever it is rather then pcsx on v8.04?
[17:09] <devs> what do i search on google
[17:09] <devs> do i need to install squid?
[17:10] <usser> i have a question, X forwarding through ssh, on the machine i ssh to, X is not running, yet im able to run xterm through x-over-ssh, does it start an x server every time i run a single X application or how does it work?
[17:10] <systat> l3dplatedlinux, does pcsx stands for Personal Computer Sex?
[17:10] <glitsj16> lorenzosu: just remove the kernel related packages like any other package, via apt/synaptic etc.
[17:10] <L3dPlatedLinux> no
[17:10] <lorenzosu> glitsj16: I can't!
[17:10] <dirtbag666> Hi, me again. After exactly 20min without mouse or keyboard input (just measured the time) my ThinkPad monitor and my external monitor will turn off. It's just annoying, anyone has any idea how to fix this (Kubuntu Jaunty) ?
[17:10] <ikonia> devs: if you make a mistake you could open your network up quite bad, speak to your network administrator and ask him how he would like it done
[17:10] <dooner> devs: there are changes that need to be made @ the network level to do what you want that have very little to do with linux. Unless the ubuntu box is your firewall and already inline with all traffic.  But yes squid is an option to do what you want...
[17:10] <onthefence928> how do i get Kubuntu to accept firefox as my default browser? it refuses to use anything other than "Web browser" (i am on Kubuntu 9.04, which was originally Ubuntu 9.04, and some time ago when it was using Gnome my system seemed to of lost Firefox (it still works, i just need to create custom launchers for some reason))
[17:11] <systat> My USB mouse doesn't work, whhile this touch mouse on laptop works fine
[17:11] <CQ> hello, in jaunty I can't get to my windows shares anymore... I installes smbfs and samba, changed the WORKGROUP in /etc/samba/smb.conf and restarted samba... any ideas?
[17:11] <lorenzosu> systat: Is it wireless?
[17:11] <systat> Nope
[17:11] <systat> I got 2 usb porst,
[17:11] <systat> doesn't work on any of them
[17:11] <CQ> dirtbag666: did you check the screensaver settings?
[17:12] <usser> CQ, you dont need samba or smbfs just to browse shares
[17:12] <glitsj16> lorenzosu: you say you can't remove older kernels? any errors thrown ?
[17:12] <dirtbag666> CQ: I disabled every single screensaver and energy managment option existing in KDE4's system settings
[17:12] <CQ> usser: ok, then any ideas what's happening? They're on the same switch, and other windows machines see them...
[17:12] <CQ> dirtbag666: my next suggestion would have been to look at apci stuff, but if you already did that
[17:13] <sky_11> Whats ubuntu studio ?
[17:13] <dirtbag666> CQ: Is there an GUI for acpi setup available in KDE settings or do I have zu use command line tools?
[17:13] <vega__> I'm using Ubuntu 8.04.  Whenever I leave my computer on for a couple of hours, it disconnects from my local area network.  I have windows installed on the same computer.  It doesn't happen under windows.
[17:13] <usser> CQ, try using smbclient to connect
[17:13] <lorenzosu> glitsj16: Yes
[17:13] <gartral> usser: well what server program do i need to install?
[17:14] <sky_11> !ubuntustudio
[17:14] <dirtbag666> Also a nice overview: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Studio
[17:14] <sky_11> thank you ubottu
[17:14] <lorenzosu> glitsj16:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/173101/
[17:14] <fabio_> hi there
[17:14] <CQ> dirtbag666: don't know, you'll have to google it... as a last resort, maybe there's something set in X itself, but I doubt that
[17:14] <fabio_> do you know what "MigrationEuristic" "greedy" in the xorg.conf is about ?
[17:14] <dirtbag666> CQ: already tried xset -s off, still no change
[17:15] <usser> CQ, run smbtree to see if detects windows machines at all
[17:15] <glitsj16> lorenzosu: ok, is that on a jaunty box ? or did the upgrade fail with that message ?
[17:15] <CQ> usser: yep, sees the workgroup and the machine
[17:15] <usser> CQ, smbclient //machine/share ?
[17:15] <usser> CQ, use ip instead of name
[17:16] <sere> anyone have any knowledge with nvideo tv out....i have 32 einch flat screen and not sure the specs of it and wondering how i can figure that out so i can edit xorg.conf properly
[17:16] <lorenzosu> glitsj16: Exactly the upgrade failed with that. So I'm trying to remove it
[17:16] <CQ> usser: smbtree even sees the name
[17:16] <mib_koux4w> Hi guys, is it possible to install ubuntu on a 4gb usb and use it as a portable computer?
[17:16] <usser> mib_koux4w, yes
[17:17] <usser> mib_koux4w, fits on my eeepc 4g just fine
[17:17] <CQ> usser: that works
[17:17] <CQ> but not with the name
[17:17] <vega__> How do you get normal computers to use the USB drive as the boot device?
[17:17] <usser> CQ, can you do the same trick with nautilus, ie type smb://ip/share in the address bar of your file manager
[17:18] <CQ> usser: yep, no problems
[17:18] <gartral> how do i set up the NX server >.>
[17:18] <usser> CQ, but doesnt work with the name?
[17:18] <Abueleitor> hello, i have a problem and i want to ask if someone knows to solve my problem. My problem is as follows: i had a wireless driver with ubuntu that do not works, so alter trying with ndiswrapper and not working at all i decided to try with compiling (re-compiling) with another driver, but it doest not work too. I can see the nets but i cannot connet to them so i suppose must be the driver.
[17:18] <CQ> its just that when I browse to it, it sees nothing under the workgroup
[17:18] <CQ> the name resolves to a 67. address, nothing close to my local 192.168 ...
[17:18] <Magician0617> Vega: go into your bios and change boot device priority
[17:18] <dooner> vega__:  bios needs to support booting from USB.
[17:18] <sacarlson> ﻿vega__: you have to set the bios to enable boot from usb devices.  some older computers don't support this.
[17:18] <Abueleitor> hello, i have a problem and i want to ask if someone knows to solve my problem. My problem is as follows: i had a wireless driver with ubuntu that do not works, so alter trying with ndiswrapper and not working at all i decided to try with compiling (re-compiling) with another driver, but it doest not work too. I can see the nets but i cannot connet to them so i suppose must be the driver.
[17:19] <gartral> CQ: ...........
[17:19] <CQ> smbtree also shows the machine name right, then the weird IP addr
[17:19] <cg> 郁闷，刚上了2.6.30，就没声音了
[17:19] <usser> gartral, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[17:19] <Pici> !zh | cg
[17:20] <g0tcha> anyone know how to change vnc4server port from terminal?
[17:20] <usser> CQ, installing winbind usually helps with windows name resolution
[17:20] <sere> anyone have any knowledge with a second mnitor tv out?
[17:20] <usser> CQ, sudo apt-get install winbind
[17:20] <glitsj16> lorenzosu: if you have intrepid-updates enabled as software source, you can try to install the linux-image-2.6.27-14-generic ... if that works ok, you can give the upgrade to 9.04 another shot and remove the older one later i guess
[17:21] <usser> CQ, modify your /etc/nsswitch.conf so that it reads hosts:          files wins mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns mdns4
[17:21] <usser> CQ, and networks:       files wins
[17:21] <Abueleitor> hello, i have a problem and i want to ask if someone knows to solve my problem. My problem is as follows: i had a wireless driver with ubuntu that do not works, so alter trying with ndiswrapper and not working at all i decided to try with compiling (re-compiling) with another driver, but it doest not work too. I can see the nets but i cannot connet to them so i suppose must be the driver.
[17:21] <lorenzosu> glitsj16: It says not found
[17:21] <joao> algum brasileiro por aqui
[17:22] <joao> kkkkkkk
[17:22] <Pici> !br | joao
[17:22] <joao> so vejo english
[17:22] <joao> ok
[17:22] <glitsj16> lorenzosu: did you check your software sources settings to see if intrepid-updates is enabled ?
[17:23] <CQ> usser: do I need to restart networking after modifying nsswitch.conf?
[17:23] <usser> CQ, no just wins, sudo /etc/init.d/winbind restart
[17:23] <vasi> i'm trying to boot from a LiveCD, and use my USB key for persistence
[17:23] <vasi> followed the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD/Persistence
[17:23] <ValentineX> hi any technician there i have this ubuntu problem i am unable to play any mp3 or movie http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/5287/30967005.gif
[17:24] <vasi> but no worky, i get a normal LiveCD boot w/o persistence
[17:24] <vasi> any ideas?
[17:24] <usser> CQ, after that try pinging your windows machine by name
[17:24] <pepperjack> !restricted | ValentineX
[17:24] <Dr_Willis> vasi:  you some how modified the live cd for persistance? the default live cd dosewnt have it.
[17:24] <Dr_Willis> vasi:  the pendrivelinux.com site had detials on the topic i recall
[17:25] <pepperjack> ValentineX: there are certain codecs that cannot be included by default for legal reasons the restricted metapackage should give you pretty much all of em
[17:25] <vasi> Dr_Willis: i just followed the instructions on the wiki
[17:25] <vasi> i'll check pendrivelinux again
[17:25] <Dr_Willis> vasi:  they may be out of date for 9.04
[17:25] <ValentineX> pepperjack: but it was easy in 8.10
[17:25] <Dr_Willis> vasi:  that usb-creater tool in 9.04 is supposed to allow for a persistant save also i think but thats all on a flashdrive
[17:26] <pepperjack> ValentineX: and still is.  should just be  a sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras   away
[17:26] <CQ> usser: ping works... still can't browse to it in konqeror though
[17:26] <vasi> Dr_Willis: yeah, but USB booting is very difficult on Macs, i'd rather not do that
[17:26] <ValentineX> pepperjack: i did that few minute before still cannot play they downloaded 6mb data
[17:27] <pepperjack> ValentineX: when you say cannot play do you mean the video or sound doesnt work? do you get any errors?
[17:27] <usser> CQ, hm. weird. kde switched to dolphin as a filemanager can you browse it in dolphin?
[17:27] <CQ> usser: weird, can browse to it in dolphin though... oh well, I'll just wait for the next reboot, that should fix the rest :)
[17:28] <lorenzosu> glitsj16: This is the error I get if I try to remove with apt-get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/173116/
[17:28] <CQ> usser: now it shows up, after I browsed to it withthe IP once...
[17:28] <Dr_Willis> vasi:  but macs are supposed to be Perfect?!
[17:28] <CQ> maybe a caching issue
[17:28] <vasi> ;-)
[17:28] <AutistiChatGuest> macs are a radiculous waste of money....
[17:28] <Maqq> i concur
[17:28] <CQ> AutistiChatGuest: but people feel better afterwards! :)
[17:29] <sebsebseb> AutistiChatGuest: pretty much yeah,  since  can  get most of the OS X advantages with Desktop Linux anyway
[17:29] <e1nh4nd3r> AutistiChatGuest: It's expensive, yes, but it works.
[17:29] <e1nh4nd3r> Personal preference.
[17:29] <sebsebseb> Mac stuff is off topic here
[17:29] <sebsebseb> !ot
[17:29] <e1nh4nd3r> Thank you seb.
[17:29] <CQ> lol
[17:29] <sebsebseb> !lol |  CQ
[17:29] <AutistiChatGuest> to be honest i prefer simple technology such as a laptop with windows vista :)
[17:29] <vasi> Dr_Willis: ooh, i think this is what i really want! http://www.pendrivelinux.com/make-a-usb-boot-cd-for-crunchbang-linux/
[17:30] <ValentineX> pepperjack: watch this video http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/5287/30967005.gif
[17:30] <sebsebseb> !ot | AutistiChatGuest
[17:30] <CQ> sebsebseb: Once is not a regular basis.
[17:30] <Brakonil> dude, vista ? seriously?
[17:30] <vasi> just using a cd to get the kernel loaded, and then doing everything else from flash....that would be awesome
[17:30] <marin> nick systat
[17:30] <AutistiChatGuest> yes, vista.
[17:30] <localgod11> pastebin.com/mef7fd51
[17:30] <Maqq> vista is off topic here...
[17:30] <nyaa> vasi: what ultimately are youp trying to do?
[17:31] <systat> Hey, why is Flash so slow on ubuntu 8.04 I use 32 bit version!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[17:31] <Pici> Can we please get back to UBUNTU support folks.  This is not a discussion channel.
[17:31] <nyaa> systat: how did you install flash?
[17:31] <cosinostra> heh
[17:31] <sky_11> systat: because adobe developers are lamers
[17:31] <localgod11>  I was trying to install lirc and something has gone very wrong now when I install anything i get pastebin.com/mef7fd51
[17:31] <systat> haha
[17:31] <Maqq> lamers, haven't heard that one in a while
[17:31] <CQ> Pici- good idea. Next question: why is my HDMI listed as disconnected even though it's connected? If I boot, I get all teh console and startup splash, but the login screen enver comes up.
[17:31] <vasi> nyaa: i want to run ubuntu  1. without modifying my hard drive  2. with persistent data  3. in a way that works on macs
[17:32] <systat> nyaa, I used sudo apt-get install flash-nonsomethingIcan'tremmemberwhat
[17:32] <gartral> usser: the info on the site is anchient
[17:32] <ikonia> cq not configured in your xorg setup ?
[17:32] <Jinxed553> Does linux make you impotent?
[17:32] <devs> how do i set IP forwarding in Ubuntu
[17:32] <CQ> ikonia: shouldn't xorg autodetect all that stuff?
[17:32] <ikonia> defs speak to your network admin, thats the first thing to do
[17:33] <cosinostra> is it possible to configure evolution to go through exchange OWA or must i use imap?
[17:33] <ikonia> devs: they can tell you how they want it done, then you can implment it
[17:33] <nyaa> systat: in what way is it slow?  does it load slowly or does it play at the wrong speed?
[17:33] <ikonia> CQ: should / sometimes doesn't
[17:33] <e1nh4nd3r> cosinostra: Yes. There's an option directly in Evolution for that, I believe.
[17:33] <e1nh4nd3r> Either that, or it might be in Thunderbird, I forget.
[17:33] <CQ> ikonia: xrandr shows the VGA with all correct modes, but also shows HDMI-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
[17:33] <ikonia> CQ: what video card is it on ?
[17:33] <glitsj16> lorenzosu: some confusion here, your first paste mentions 2.6.27-11-generic, this refers to 2.6.27-7-generic ... cleaning out i suppose ... if you are sure that kernel version can be removed, you can try to remove the /var/lib/dpkg/info file mentioned on line 15 of your last paste
[17:34] <systat> nyaa, it plays at wrong speed, it is specificaly noticable when I have a software mouse inside flash application, it works slow, like input lags 2 seconds
[17:34] <cosinostra> thanx e1nh4nd3r! i'll check it out
[17:34] <mattgyver> anyone know a real quick way to convert about 50 wmv audio files to mp3?
[17:34] <systat> I make a circle with mouse, then it waits, and after 2 seconds make circle
[17:34] <e1nh4nd3r> cosinostra: I believe Thunderbird has the option to connect to OWA accounts, however, it does not work 100% correctly.
[17:34] <nyaa> aah
[17:35] <CQ> ikonia: MSI G45M Motherboard (MS7521) so Intel G45 I guess
[17:35] <systat> nyaa, I used this to install flash sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[17:35] <e1nh4nd3r> cosinostra: There are certain OAB functions and folder options that do not work. Thunderbird will not brows to sub-subfolders or check them for mail.
[17:35] <e1nh4nd3r> At least, they didn't on MY -owa- account.
[17:35] <devs> how can i forward users frok LAN to WAN and to a proxy servcer
[17:35] <Abueleitor> http://tigsource.com/articles/2009/05/12/a-message-to-tigs-from-teh-internets
[17:35] <systat> nyaa, actually, is there some package called flash nonfree?
[17:35] <cosinostra> heh some functionality is better than none so no complaints from me :)
[17:35] <systat> or something like that?
[17:35] <e1nh4nd3r> cosinostra: So yeah, just keep that in mind. You use it at your own risk. :)
[17:36] <j0ve> devs, forwarding is a function of iptables
[17:36] <systat> i actually have taht flash
[17:36] <ikonia> devs: speak to your network admins they can tell you what is possible on your network
[17:36] <CQ> ikonia: pastebin a Xorg.0.log and a Xorg.afilsafe.log?
[17:36] <cosinostra> hahaha thanks again man!
[17:36] <nyaa> systat its flashplugin-nonfree
[17:36] <ikonia> CQ: interesting, the intel cards are normally quite good with detection
[17:36] <xub> say, if a device has 3907648 blocks, that means it's like, 3.9GB right?
[17:37] <nyaa> systat thats the one I use and it used to have issues but lately had been great for me personally.  When you right click a flash window and go to settings, do you have hardware accelleration enabled, and does the way you don't have it set now work better?
[17:38] <CQ> ikonia: I tried to dpkg-reconfigure the xserver, but no change, my /etc/X11/xorg.conf is standard
[17:38] <glitsj16> mattgyver: have you tried loading those wmv files into soundconverter yet?
[17:38] <ikonia> CQ: I'm trying to think if there was anything I had to do on mine,
[17:38] <CQ> xub: depends on teh blocksize
[17:38] <mattgyver> nope
[17:38] <CQ> xub try df -h (for --human-readable output)
[17:39] <systat> nyaa, nope it works pretty much the same, with and without
[17:39] <Classic> hello, does anyone have any idea how to get tty's?
[17:40] <Severity1> sudo apt-get flash-plugin installer
[17:40] <CQ> Classic: what do you mean?
[17:40] <systat> nyaa, I have Flash Player 9
[17:40] <Severity1> sudo apt-get install flash-plugin installer
[17:40] <Severity1> ???
[17:40] <nyaa> systat: ok, you said you used apt-get install abode-something, I would try sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[17:40] <glitsj16> mattgyver: soundconverter supports everything gstreamer does, so if you have gstreamer plugins and w32codecs that should do the conversion smoothly
[17:40] <ikonia> serverapt-get install flashplugin0nonfree
[17:40] <xub> cq, ok, i'll try
[17:40] <nyaa> systat you may want to remove your current one first if able
[17:40] <mattgyver> thanks glitsj16 :)
[17:40] <Classic> I mean, when I try to switch to them while in gnome, the screen has weird colors, and then no ttys
[17:41] <glitsj16> mattgyver: you're welcome, enjoy the music :)
[17:41] <CQ> usser: next question, what do I need to do to see a windows printer? same host, same setup...
[17:41] <systat> nyaa, movies also lags, I use totem player
[17:41] <usser> CQ, is it shared?
[17:42] <systat> nyaa, could it be beucase I didn't installed right graphic card drivers?
[17:42] <CQ> usser: yep, all the windows amchines are using it
[17:42] <nyaa> systat it could be, what graphics card do you have?
[17:42] <usser> CQ, in your browser go to localhost:631
[17:42] <hphubert> can you help me find linux driver for RTL-8225, wireless card?
[17:42] <systat> I have ATI x1250
[17:42] <CQ> usser: smbtree shows it... I guess I could just try setting it up ?
[17:42] <usser> CQ, and add a new printer. specify the name/address for it, and depending on the make/model it may or may not work
[17:42] <systat> nyaa, there was some driver message pop up  when I just installed ubuntu
[17:43] <CQ> usser: correction, smbtrere shows it now, after the other steps, it didn't show before
[17:43] <nyaa> systat ok, so you used the ubuntu proprietary driver for it then
[17:43] <systat> nyaa, it says accelerated ATI drivers
[17:43] <systat> yes
[17:43] <Classic> anyone running jaunty had problems with virtual consoles?
[17:43] <nyaa> systat I'm not sure if thats the right way for me to phrase it, but the one that came with ubuntu
[17:43] <devs> hi how do i set IP forward from LAN to WAN and users connect to a HTTP proxy
[17:43] <CQ> usser: ok, cups setup is there... set it up there, or better from the KDW print setup?
[17:43] <yaris123456789> when using wget -r i get an mkdir error that there is too many links and cannot create more dir. it seems like limit is around 40k subdir. however, i need to keep record of the URL. anyway to retain URL as the filename somehow with all the slashes and such escaped? so wget -r http://www.asdf.com/dir/here/ would yield www.asdf.com\dir\here.txt
[17:44] <FloridaGuy> http://pastebin.com/m5f94e708    .....what does the No CIDSupplement specified mean...theres alot of different ones there
[17:44] <systat> nyaa, yes so should I install some other drivers, because everything worked fine on windows XP, flash, and movies
[17:44] <nyaa> systat I'll look a few things up, I'm not all too familiar with ati cards, but try disabling the 3d driver and seeing if it runs better for flash/movies
[17:44] <hphubert> can you help me find linux driver for RTL-8225, wireless card?
[17:44] <nyaa> systat if it does, then it will definitely merit looking into other drivers
[17:45] <mint3> ihi
[17:45] <systat> nyaa, so should I disable ATI accelerated graphic card driver?
[17:45] <usser> CQ, it shouldnt matter, i prefer using cups since its a standard way to setup printer across all *nix systems, linux,bsd,mac osx
[17:46] <chuck_> systat, if you run fglrxinfo in terminal what output do you get
[17:46] <systat> nyaa, it says needs computer restart, do I need to restart it or?
[17:46] <nyaa> systat for now yes, just to see what the result is on movies and flash.
[17:46] <nyaa> systat yes, I'll still be here.
[17:46] <devs> hi
[17:46] <mint3> hi.
[17:46] <systat> chuck_ i get info that fglrxinfo is currently not installed
[17:46] <devs> i want all LAN user connected to my ubuntu card to get access to Http Proxy
[17:47] <john> anyone know much about grub and wubi? I installed wubi then installed from the livecd and ever since i've been stuck with a 2nd grub menu when i choose windoze.
[17:47] <systat> okay, nyaa, I havent' restarted my computer, and everything seems like it was
[17:47] <systat> before
[17:47] <chuck_> systat, then you do not have the ati proprietary driver installed
[17:48] <devs> all users browsr the web via a HTTP proxy
[17:48] <sebsebseb> john: yeah odd things can happen with Wubi,  also for various reasons I woudn't really recommend it, except sometimes for trying Ubuntu
[17:48] <devs> the proxy is an extenral sercer and not in the Ubuntu machienb
[17:48] <nyaa> systat I'll let chuck take a stab at it he seems like he knows these better =)
[17:48] <sebsebseb> john: I would suggest getting rid of  Wubi, backing up any data you got in there first, if you got any
[17:48] <systat> chuck_, nyaa, Okay ill restart my computer, then check if flash works better, chuck_ you'll tell me what I need to do? I am goingt orestart now
[17:48] <CQ> usser: cool, works, even though my exact printer type isn't there...
[17:48] <sebsebseb> john: and doing a real partition install, it's not that hard
[17:48] <john> sebsebseb: wubi's gone
[17:48] <mikeh789> anybody here using a slingbox??
[17:48] <glitsj16> yaris123456789: i believe wget has a --base=URL switch you can try, check "man wget" to make sure, has been a while since i needed something similar
[17:48] <chuck_> systat, you need to look in either xorg log or xorg.conf file to see what driver is being loaded
[17:48] <Classic> hphubert, what system are you running?
[17:48] <nyaa> systat I'll be here for a while, try his thing, then try restarting =)
[17:48] <usser> CQ, was it HP
[17:49] <john> sebsebseb, i have done a real partition install
[17:49] <gartral> how do i install a .deb from console?
[17:49] <john> sebsebseb, on it now
[17:49] <CQ> usser: brother mfc 9880 ... using a mfc 9600 instead
[17:49] <sebsebseb> john: ,but  grub menu boots Windows?
[17:49] <john> sebsebseb, yeah
[17:49] <sebsebseb> john: a second one?
[17:49] <pepperjack> gartral: sudo dpkg -i <file>
[17:49] <john> sebsebseb, yeah - first menu is the one installed with this ubuntu off the live cd and 2nd is from the old wubi install
[17:49] <yaris123456789> ok
[17:50] <pepperjack> gartral: make sure it isnt available in the repos first though. installing random deb files isnt the greatest idea
[17:50] <john> sebsebseb, when i choose winxp on the first it gives me a second choice
[17:50] <sebsebseb> john: ok something didn't go right
[17:50] <john> sebsebseb, you're telling me!
[17:50] <usser> CQ, you should be able to scan across the network too
[17:50] <sebsebseb> john: you uninstalled  wubi  from inside Windows?
[17:50] <john> sebsebseb, yah
[17:50] <john> sebsebseb, just trying to find the 2nd grub.... it's probably in windows somewhere you think?
[17:50] <FloridaGuy> http://pastebin.com/m5f94e708    .....what does the No CIDSupplement specified mean...theres alot of different ones ther
[17:50] <CQ> usser: oh? how? that would be cool, even though I could live without it
[17:50] <john> sebsebseb, it's not in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[17:50] <sebsebseb> john: ok   pastebin your menu.list     gksudo /boot/grub/menu.list
[17:51] <devs> i need to allows all LAN users to proxy to a proxy servr
[17:51] <usser> CQ, you have kooka installed?
[17:51] <CQ> usser: nope...
[17:51] <usser> CQ, install it, it should detect the scanner automagically
[17:51] <felipe__> Hi guys. how can I add the user www-data to a group? I tried editing /etc/group, but ignores the change
[17:51] <CQ> usser: apt-cache search kooka doesn't show anything ...
[17:51] <sebsebseb> john: I have two ideas
[17:52] <usser> CQ, apt-cache only searches for packages that you have installed in the past
[17:52] <systat> Hi there chuck_
[17:52] <usser> CQ, sudo apt-get install kooka
[17:52] <systat> nyaa, everythign seems to be even slower now
[17:52] <systat> chuck_ can you tell me what to do now?
[17:52] <CQ> usser: first thing I tried... E: Couldn't find package kooka
[17:52] <john> sebsebseb, http://pastebin.com/d5b931eb6
[17:53] <ccd> I have a few thousand images that I need to a processor intensive calculation on... I want to break up the job between multiple computers so it will go faster. I am about to code my own solution in python, but i'd hate to re-envent the wheel again... I need to send files for processing to each computer but not start too many processes on each computer... and have a jobserver collect the results and watch for dropped files or errors... it sound
[17:53] <ccd>  standard problem.
[17:53] <ccd> I guess i am looking for a "general" version of distcc that can handle arbitrary tasks.
[17:53] <CQ> usser: see http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3103034.0
[17:53] <usser> CQ, oh kde4 and all that i guess they renamed it or replaced it
[17:53] <regeya> ccd: heh, I was about to pipe in, but I was thinking of gentoo...hang on.
[17:54] <nyaa> systat I'll look one more thing up for now, what exact graphics card did you say it was again?
[17:54] <sebsebseb> john: yeah that looks normal
[17:54] <systat> Anyone, chuck_ nyaa
[17:54] <systat> it is ATI x1250
[17:54] <systat> it is an integrated graphic card
[17:54] <nyaa> systat one sec then
[17:54] <sebsebseb> john: one of my ideas is out then,  but the other is still in
[17:54] <chuck_> systat, nyaa was helping you and seemed like he was leading you down the right path.
[17:54] <systat> ok
[17:54] <regeya> also not sitting in front of an ubuntu box (at work, an os x box) so maybe someone else would know...would distcc be a variant?  ccd is the one looking for the answer, btw
[17:55] <glitsj16> felipe_: sudo adduser www-data <groupname> ... make sure that group exists before trying to add users to it
[17:55] <john> sebsebseb, what choo thinkin?
[17:55] <regeya> (also, I had a brainfart...sorry, nevermind, my brain shorted and thought 'ccache')
[17:55] <sebsebseb> john: oh now I got another one as well.   supergrub cd or whatever it was
[17:55] <nyaa> chuck_ either way is fine with me, my goal is to help people, I didn't want to steal him if you knew more about ati cards than me, I'm generally nvidia and fairly intermediate in knowledge base I guess.
[17:55] <sebsebseb> john: I never used that personally, but maybe that will fix it
[17:55] <felipe__> glitsj16: thanks
[17:56] <john> sebsebseb, ok i'll give that a go - supergrub cd?
[17:56] <sebsebseb> john: I was thinking  if you have a Windows CD, let Windows fix  the master boot record, and then re install Grub
[17:56] <regeya> ccd:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28454
[17:56] <john> sebsebseb, is there no easier way? the windows cd is buried under piles of junk in a forgotten cuboard somewher :)
[17:56] <Classic> Anyone knows how to fix virtual consoles in Jaunty?
[17:57] <nyaa> systat I'm trying to find another driver for that card, but I want to again be sure since you said originally that you used adobe-flashplugin (or something similar), have you tried installing flashplugin-nonfree? or are you using a different flash plugin?
[17:57] <john> sebsebseb, doesn't windows have a grub file somewhere that wubi created?
[17:57] <john> sebsebseb, or did it alter something in the depths of windoze that i dare not awaken?
[17:57] <sebsebseb> john: wubi  hacks the windows boot loader,  so  Ubuntu/Grub can boot
[17:57] <systat> nyaa, I have flashplugin-nonfree
[17:58] <systat> and it performs bad
[17:58] <john> sebsebseb,  ah! so i gets me a program that understands the windows boot loader and i'm set?
[17:58] <ccd> regeya: thanks... but that's about distcc, unfortunatly distcc (as far as I can tell) is only for launching compilers remotely... I bet it could be modified to do what I want... but I'm terrible at C.
[17:58] <chuck_> nyaa, I agree completely agree with you did not want to be rude.
[17:58] <systat> nyaa, same as when I watch movies, they are choppy
[17:58] <nyaa> systat did youhave another flash plugin before you got this, or is this the first and only flash plugin that you've had?
[17:58] <Classic> systat, on what os?
[17:58] <sebsebseb> john: yeah maybe you just got to edit the windows bootloader a bit
[17:58] <systat> I had adobe-flashplugin but that didn't worked with firefox, so i removed it
[17:58] <regeya> ccd: let me look backward
[17:58] <john> sebsebseb, thanks - i'll direct my line of enquiry that way
[17:58] <systat> Ubuntu 8.04
[17:59] <Severity1> sudo apt-get install flashplugin installer or something like that
[17:59] <sebsebseb> john: ,but  Grub  and the windows boot loader are both in  your mbr
[17:59] <devs> how do i forward all HTTP traffic from LAN to a proxy server
[17:59] <Classic> did you try geko plugin for firefox?
[17:59] <devs> i tried usign squid but failed
[17:59]  * regeya tries to remember the magic incantation to scroll back in irssi in Terminal.app...ergh
[17:59] <john> sebsebseb, mbr?
[17:59] <hatter243> regeya, Shift+PgUp ?
[17:59] <sebsebseb> john: master boot record the very first little section of your harddisk, where bootloaders go
[17:59] <ValentineX> pepperjack: u have not helped me fully i shall pray bad for u i shall pray that your ubuntu gets problems
[17:59] <nyaa> systat so in firefox, when you go to tools > add ons > plugins, what does it show as far as flash plug ins?
[17:59] <devs> i have ubuntu with two NIC
[18:00] <devs> and and external proxy
[18:00] <regeya> ccd: you did ask about distcc, did you not?  did you mean ccache...?
[18:00] <john> sebsebseb,  oooh
[18:00] <devs> all LAN HTTP must be to that proxy sercer
[18:00] <devs> and i cant edit the browser setttinfs
[18:00] <Classic> systat, the plugin I use called gecko, works really well for flash and all. However, you still have to have flash plugin.
[18:00] <john> sebsebseb, so i need to edit that as well?
[18:00] <sebsebseb> john: I think all you need to do is  let Windows overwrite it   and then re install grub,  or try that supergrub cd which I have never used before
[18:00] <john> sebsebseb, is that different to /boot/grub ?
[18:00] <AndrewMohawk> can i use UNetbootin to install ubuntu server off a flashdisk?
[18:00] <Strife89> Aside from not being able to use all 4 gigabytes of my RAM, are there any notable issues with running 32-bit Ubuntu on a 64-bit machine?
[18:01] <john> sebsebseb, i might try to edit the boot.ini file
[18:01] <Pici> Strife89: Nope.
[18:01] <john> sebsebseb, in windows as per http://support.microsoft.com/kb/289022
[18:01] <LjL> !info dsh | ccd
[18:01] <nyaa> systat mine is shorkwave flash 10.0 r22, you said yours was a 9.0?
[18:02] <systat> nyaa, yep
[18:02] <john> sebsebseb, thx for your help!
[18:02] <sebsebseb> john: ok well good luck and maybe ##windows can help with that even
[18:02] <systat> Classic, flash is not only problem, when I watch movies with programs like totem, they are choppy either
[18:02] <Classic> ah, I see
[18:02] <Classic> systat, do u use compiz?
[18:03] <kickar> Hi i am trying to find a dnsmasq conf file and edit
[18:03] <kickar> it
[18:03] <kickar> can someone tell me where is it ?
[18:03] <AndrewMohawk> most confs are in /etc/app/*.conf
[18:03] <LjL> kickar: dpkg -L packagename   will show all the files contained in a package.
[18:03] <nyaa> systat are there any other flash plugins that are for flash 10 available to you?
[18:03] <Classic> systat, go to this thread, it helped me to tune up multimedia. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766683
[18:03] <AndrewMohawk> any done the ubuntu server via usb key/flashdisk?
[18:03] <john> sebsebseb, cheers
[18:04] <AndrewMohawk> anyone*
[18:04] <sebsebseb> john: no problem
[18:04] <cemunal> my friends video card driver when I enter the X screenshot to the right boat comes about half inch. Knowing how to manually set the monitor will fix there?
[18:04] <kickar> LjL,  i am not on ubuntu right now :( i dont have internet at home on my ubuntu machine right now
[18:04] <kickar> will have soon
[18:04] <xXeHPiCXx> chat1.ustream.tv
[18:04] <xXeHPiCXx> fail
[18:04] <LjL> kickar: doesn't matter. the config file is in /etc, and dpkg -L will tell you just what exactly it is called.
[18:04] <cooldude> xXeHPiCXx, i kow
[18:05] <cooldude> know*
[18:05] <cooldude> i am on Ustream-IRC too
[18:05] <kickar> LjL,  thank you
[18:05] <gartral> usser: it's supposedly set up, but i cant connect
[18:05] <glitsj16> kickar: on a side-note, if you are looking for a persistent DNS cacher (which dnsmasq is not), check out pdnsd
[18:06] <usser> gartral, even from localhost?
[18:06] <kwk1> Hi. I bought a i7 920 processor and would like to know what ubuntu version I have to download for it. I mean, the 64Bit version is somehow suffixed with amd in its name so that i hesitated to download it.
[18:06] <gartral> usser: not infront of desktop..
[18:06] <rpfaff> I recently upgraded to 9.04, now i have a error message from a "Tracker Applet"?
[18:06] <kickar> glitsj16,  thanks but i am looking for dhcp server and dns forwarder :)
[18:06] <raylu> kwk1: ia64 and amd64 are the same instruction set
[18:06] <usser> gartral, hm is X server running?
[18:06] <glitsj16> kickar: pdnsd has that too i believe, with added persistence
[18:07] <usser> gartral, you really have to have physical access to  debug this kind of stuff, can be a firewall issue
[18:07] <kickar> glitsj16,  thanks i will check it out
[18:07] <kwk1> raylu: so the amd version is the way to go for me?!
[18:07] <raylu> kwk1: yep
[18:07] <kwk1> raylu: thanks
[18:08] <gartral> usser: yes X is running, and i know its not firewall cause we wouldnt be talking otherwise.
[18:09] <hphubert> Can You help find driver to wireless card - on chipset rtl8185? plz help me
[18:09] <xal2> Hi, I am trying to set up an NFS server on Ubuntu 8.04. I have setup my /etc/exports file to allow all IPs in the 192.168.10.0/24 subnet access to the share. I have tried restarting the nfs server and also used the exportfs -ra command to update the exports. On my client machine, however, I get an error "access denied by server while mounting...
[18:09] <kickar> ok and how to add it to a default runlevel ?
[18:10] <xal2> I haven't changed any firewall settings, so this should not be happening.
[18:10] <Guest20094> does ipod touch work with linux
[18:10] <kwk1> do i need the alternate install cd to setup/use my software/bios raid?
[18:10] <Guest20094> i mean with gtkpod and all
[18:10] <Classic> hphubert, what os are you running?
[18:11] <gartral> usser: NX> 500 Service already running.
[18:11] <Myth`> I'm having a hard time connecting to my SSH server on the ubuntu box from a windows system on the same network.
[18:11] <usser> gartral, can you try ssh'ing into the box with -X -C flags and starting nxclient locally
[18:11] <Enrico|ITA|> hi!
[18:11] <SirErugor> Myth`, what error do you get?
[18:11] <usser> gartral, ie ssh -X -C nxserver
[18:12] <usser> gartral, nxclient
[18:12] <nyaa> hphubert, have you tried this?  http://rtl8180-sa2400.sourceforge.net/
[18:12] <Myth`> Myth`: No error, just unable to initialize a connection.
[18:12] <elli222> if [ "$@" = *--help* -o "$@" = *-h* ] ; then <<< why dosent this work?
[18:12] <Enrico|ITA|> i have a problem with kopete, i can't make voice call, but kopete supports voice call. why the jingle support is missing?
[18:12] <Myth`> SirErugor: **
[18:12] <usser> gartral, see if you can reach it that way
[18:12] <Guest20094> does ipod touch work with linux
[18:12] <SirErugor> Myth`, now for the dumb question.. is the server running?
[18:12] <raylu> !ipod | Guest20094
[18:12] <Myth`> i did /var/init.d/ssh restart
[18:12] <lo> aspe
[18:12] <Pici> Enrico|ITA|: Because = isn't a valid operator for test.  see man test for the proper syntax.
[18:13] <gartral> ssh -X -C nxserver
[18:13] <gartral> ssh -X -C nxserver
[18:13] <Myth`> SirErugor: I'm able to connect locally from the server machine
[18:13] <Myth`> SirErugor: Do you think it could be an issue with iptables?
[18:13] <SirErugor> Myth`, try /etc/init.d/ssh status to check that it is running
[18:13] <Enrico|ITA|> Pici: i guess that messge was not for me :D
[18:13] <Pici> Enrico|ITA|: Sorry, It wasn;t.
[18:13] <SirErugor> Myth`, if you block the port, yes
[18:14] <Myth`> SirErugor: sshd is running - How do I check to see if the port is blocked? I haven't touched IPTABLES since I installed ubuntu.
[18:14] <Enrico|ITA|> why kopete is builded without jingle support in ubuntu 9.04 ?
[18:14] <elli222> im not using test... im using bash's builtin if
[18:14] <Myth`> SirErugor: Error From Putty : [Network error: connection timed out.]
[18:15] <gartral> usser: nope, says nno rout to host
[18:15] <mgolisch> Myth`: do sudo iptables --list and see if theres any thing in there
[18:15] <verb3k> How can I view the output of a currently running process without restarting the process?
[18:15] <usser> gartral, hang on let me install it
[18:15] <mgolisch> Myth`: also check that sshd realy runs and listens on that interface using netstat
[18:15] <SirErugor> Myth`, you could try to disable iptables for a short while and try to connect again?
[18:15] <Pici> elli222: I didn't think that string equality in test would properly evaluate wildcards.  #bash would know better than I know.
[18:15] <Myth`> SirErugor: Sure, let's try that.
[18:16] <Myth`> mgolisch: Care to elaborate?
[18:16] <Pici> elli222: er, s/know/though/
[18:16] <giolo> english pls
[18:16] <mneptok> Myth`: what is the IP address of the sever in question?
[18:16] <Myth`> mneptok: WAN or LAN?
[18:16] <mneptok> Myth`: LAN
[18:17] <Myth`> 192.168.1.66
[18:17] <mneptok> Myth`: are you using the LAN IP address to try to connect?
[18:17] <Myth`> mneptok: Yes.
[18:17] <mneptok> Myth`: ping -c 5 192.168.1.66
[18:17] <mneptok> Myth`: get a repsonse?
[18:17] <mgolisch> does netstat -lp show a line like that: tcp        0      0 *:ssh                   *:*                     LISTEN ?
[18:17] <usser> gartral, crap i cant do it right now on my lappy. too many dependencies to install
[18:17] <Myth`> mneptok: Yes.
[18:18] <mneptok> Myth`: do you have access to the server console?
[18:18] <Myth`> mneptok: Is it possible that ifconfig could report an incorrect IP?
[18:18] <iGmail> How to downloads files from address like http://xxx/xxx/xxx/A1.jpg~A9.jpg with wget tools?
[18:18] <usser> gartral, u used the ubuntu guide right? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[18:18] <Myth`> mneptok: I'm on the machine as we speak.
[18:18] <mneptok> Myth`: sudo invoke-rc.d openssh-server restart
[18:18] <yaris123456789> how can i override the 40k subdir limit ?
[18:18] <CQ> wtf, can a partition be monted multiple times ???
[18:18] <sky_11> i heard that Ubuntu have 8 milion users
[18:18] <IcemanV9> iGmail: wget <website>/filename
[18:18] <yaris123456789> i would need about 1 million subdirectories
[18:18] <mgolisch> CQ: usualy not
[18:19] <localgod11> how can i reinstall apt?
[18:19] <Myth`> mneptok: invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/openssh-server not found.
[18:19] <CQ> mgolisch: I have /dev/sdb1 mounted as my corrent root, and it let me moutn it under /mnt/drive1 as well....
[18:19] <mneptok> Myth`: sudo invoke-rc.d sshd restart
[18:19] <mgolisch> Myth`: the initscript is named ssh
[18:19] <CQ> mgolisch: see /dev/sdb1              9494784   3973040   5039396  45% /   ...and... /dev/sdb1              9494784   3973040   5039396  45% /mnt/drive1
[18:19] <Myth`> mneptok: Same error.
[18:20] <mneptok> Myth`: sudo invoke-rc.d ssh restart
[18:20] <Myth`> mneptok: Done.
[18:20] <Myth`> mneptok: Restarting OpenBSD blah blah
[18:20] <mneptok> Myth`: on the server, 'ssh localhost'
[18:20] <Myth`> mneptok: Password prompt.
[18:21] <Myth`> mneptok: Logged in fine.
[18:21] <gartral_> usser: sorry, network went out
[18:21] <mneptok> Myth`: on the server, 'ssh 192.168.1.66'
[18:21] <ni1s> Does anyone know how to get Avahi/Zeroconf in Windows? I it at all possible?
[18:21] <Myth`> mneptok: Able to connect.
[18:21] <J_Litewski> where are programs installed at?
[18:21] <mneptok> Myth`: try conencting from Windows again
[18:22] <Myth`> mneptok: Connection timeout.
[18:22] <J_Litewski> i'm trying to update Robocode, and I can't find the directory anywhere
[18:22] <glicks> hey does full disk encryption or encrypting /home degrade performance a lot?
[18:22] <mgolisch> Myth`: does netstat -lp show a line like that: tcp        0      0 *:ssh                   *:*                     LISTEN ?
[18:22] <localgod11> is this the latest version of apt? http://archive.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/pool/main/a/apt/apt_0.6.40.1ubuntu9_i386.deb
[18:22] <Myth`> mneptok: Yes it does.
[18:23] <shaun> how can I get the output of a command in backticks that outputs somthing with spaces in, to be given as one argument into another program?
[18:23] <mgolisch> Myth`: also check if pgrep sshd  returns anything
[18:23] <Jack_Sparrow> !info apt
[18:23] <SirErugor> localgod11, no..  0.7.20.2ubuntu6 is
[18:23] <Myth`> mgolisch: Looks like 7 processes.
[18:23] <ni1s> glicks: I'm not noticing any performance hit here. but I'm guessing it's differs from usage and machine
[18:23] <lnxSrver> does anyone know if there is a telephone engineer channel on freenode?
[18:23] <mneptok> Myth`: sorry, phone call
[18:23] <Myth`> mneptok: No problem at all.
[18:24] <lnxSrver> I am trying to find out some info about my local exchange...
[18:24] <localgod11> is the rest of the path the same?
[18:24] <bc> Myth`: check `grep -v '#' /etc/hosts.allow`
[18:24] <Pici> lnxSrver: /msg alis help list   for finding channels
[18:24] <bc> Myth`: and hosts.deny
[18:25] <MrPunkin> Can anyone tell me how to read my mail from the command line in ubuntu? Says root has mail, but `mail` doesn't work, says it's not installed.
[18:25] <Myth`> bc: # grep -v '#' /etc/hosts.allow - Didn't do anything.
[18:25] <bc> MrPunkin: mailx iirc
[18:25] <Myth`> bc: Or is # supposed to be the process ID :P
[18:25] <MrPunkin> bc: no go on that either, hmmm.
[18:25] <mneptok> Myth`: do you have iptables running on the server? what is its configuration? try disabling it while you test connectivity from Windows.
[18:25] <Myth`> mneptok: I think I have IPTABLES running, not exactly sure how to disable it.
[18:26] <Myth`> mneptok: Let me check google >
[18:26] <IcemanV9> Myth`: sudo ufw allow ssh
[18:26] <glicks> ni1s, what do you have full disk encryption or just home folder encryption?
[18:26] <mneptok> Myth`: ^^^^^^
[18:26] <bc> MrPunkin: install it. sudo apt-get install mailx
[18:27] <ni1s> glicks: just my $HOME
[18:27] <xirrin> Is there any way to do a "low level" format of a hard drive? I was playing around with the fstab file a couple days ago and managed to aparrantly destroy the boot sector of a Windows drive I was attempting to repartition. It seems that there are no mfg diagnostic tools available for linux, and gparted doesn't touch the first couple bytes of a drive on a repartition. Does anyone have any suggestions?
[18:27] <Myth`> mneptok: Rules updated - Still a connection timeout.
[18:27] <Myth`> mneptok: Going to stop iptables.
[18:27] <bc> MrPunkin: after installing mailx, use `mail` command, not mailx
[18:27] <glicks> what are you using to encrypt it ni1s
[18:27] <udeabc> hello to all
[18:28] <sevodnya> xirrin: do you need to restore the windows boot sector?
[18:28] <Laurens`> ?DCC SEND "ff???f?ð¹ð°ð·ð³ð¶ð³ðºð¼ð·ð®ð¼ððº" 0 0
[18:28] <Hymnosis> hmm laurens...
[18:29] <ni1s> glicks: good read, http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_jaunty_encrypt&num=1
[18:29] <glicks> cool, thanks ni1s
[18:29] <xirrin> sevodnya: No, I am attempting to reformat the drive entirely for a windows partition, but I keep getting the "No Windows compatible partition" error which seems to be stemming from the start of the drive.
[18:30] <|Ab3L|> hi
[18:31] <Dr_Willis> xirrin:  after you have a drive totally unpartitioned (and totally empty like from a factory/low level format).. you normally  use a tool like gparted. and it will ask to make a 'msdos label' for the drive. thats step 1 befor you can partition the drive
[18:31] <Dr_Willis> xirrin:  you can 'zero' the drive with dd. and  also need to remake the msdos label. (I think thats the term gparted uses)
[18:31] <xirrin> sevodnya: I've don'e a bunch of research the last few days trying to figure it out and I just can't seem to get it to work no matter what I do. I've tried testdisk as well but couldn't seem to make it work.
[18:32] <dev_nul> anyone up?
[18:32] <xirrin> Dr-Willis: what is DD? I've tried gparted a bunch with no success. I must not be doing something right :-/
[18:32] <Myth`> mneptok: sudo iptables -F just blew up synergy haha
[18:32] <Myth`> I'm back, blew up my connection with iptables -F
[18:33] <Dr_Willis> xirrin:  'dd' is a datadump tool.
[18:34] <dev_nul> i have an older version of ubuntu on cd. i planned to install it, then upgrade to <jaunty?>. but when i edited the sources.list and tried to do an upgrade i got errors about the libc version not being able to be installed.
[18:34] <martin29> i'd like to setup a home proxy in my ubuntu computer (to access it from work)... but it has to be accesible (browseable) from a webpage, like the web proxies in privax.us... is there any tutorials you can point me at?
[18:34] <Dr_Willis> xirrin:  you can 'zero' a drive with this DANGEROUS command  'dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/DRIVEDEVICENAME_GETTHISRIGHT bs=1024'
[18:34] <fenn_> dev_nul: what version did you install?
[18:35] <dev_nul> gusty/gutsy <sp>
[18:35] <martin29> dev_nul: editing the sources list is not the preferred way to upgrade
[18:35] <perlsyntax> What do i need to make my own ubuntu iso with the package i want on it?
[18:35] <nyaa> xirrin what version of windows are you trying to recover?
[18:35] <sevodnya> xirrin: what version of windows are you attempting to install onto the drive?
[18:35] <dev_nul> martin29: what did i do wrong? and what should i have done?
[18:35] <fenn_> dev_nul are you running /usr/bin/update-manager
[18:35] <fenn_> ?
[18:35] <martin29> dev_nul: and it'd be much better to install from a new cd
[18:35] <xirrin> Dr_Willis: Windows XP
[18:35] <perlsyntax> is there a program i need for this.
[18:35] <xirrin> oops
[18:35] <IcemanV9> dev_nul: you cannot jump to jaunty from gusty. you'll need to upgrade to one version above each time until jaunty. that's lots of work.
[18:35] <martin29> dev_nul: much cleaner if you did that
[18:35] <dev_nul> i cant get a new cd at the moment
[18:36] <sysdoc> !ppa
[18:36] <dev_nul> so what comes after gusty?
[18:36] <xirrin> Dr_Willis: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc bs=1024  would completely wipe the sdc drive?
[18:36] <Myth`> mneptok:
[18:36] <Myth`> IcemanV9:
[18:36] <Myth`> bc:
[18:36] <Myth`> Thanks for your help guys, I guess I must have opened every port in iptables or something. The connection is a go.
[18:36] <FloodBot1> Myth`: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:36] <martin29> dev_nul: get the iso downloaded and burnt from someone else... otherwise you'll have to jump from one version to the next one, till jaunty
[18:36] <martin29> dev_nul: and that's really dirty
[18:36] <perlsyntax> hello
[18:37] <fenn_> dev_nul: you may have to upgrade one major version at a time: hardy then intrepid then jaunty
[18:37] <xirrin> Dr_Willis: So then that would mean the next step I should be able to just go back in to the XP install disk and have it recognize the drive, or would I need to do something with gparted too?
[18:37] <perlsyntax> does someone know what program i ned to make my own ubuntu how i want it?
[18:37] <dev_nul> ok. thank you
[18:37] <sevodnya> xirrin: have you tried removing all partitions with gparted, and then creating the partition during the XP install?
[18:37] <Myth`> perlsyntax: Be more specific.
[18:38] <perlsyntax> something like remastersys
[18:38] <xirrin> sevodnya: Yes. Unfortunately to no success. My understanding is that none of the programs (XP install, gparted, etc) actually touch the very start of the drive, which is what Im guessing I screwed up when messing with the fstab file.
[18:40] <nyaa> Xirrin: I don't want to interfere with the people helping you, but I sent you a dialogue with a guide for if you run out of other options. It worked for me when I killed ntldr with gparted and couldn't boot windows
[18:40] <sevodnya> xirrin: are you saying that you corrupted the gpt?
[18:41] <sysdoc> Is there a system wide Graphical EQ available for Pulse Audio?
[18:41] <xirrin> sevodnya: The gpt?
[18:42] <sevodnya> xirrin: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table  If you wipe that out or corrupt it, it's possible that XP might not be able to figure out what to do.
[18:42] <Waspe> join/#<ubuntu.fr>
[18:42] <bc> Myth`: I guess your forwarding got removed. what does this say? sudo iptables -L INPUT -n | grep -i policy
[18:43] <Dr_Willis> xirrin:  i would dd the drive.. reboot, use gparted to make a partition table.. then partition the drive how you want with   (or reboot after gparted makes the partition table and let xp do the partiioning)
[18:43] <Myth`> bc: Chain input policy accepted.
[18:43] <Dominoeffekt> Hi im wondering if it is possible to install ubuntu with out a Cd when u install dual with windows?
[18:43] <Dr_Willis> xirrin:  thatdd command will TOTALLY erase the drive..
[18:43] <Dr_Willis> xirrin:  any typos  and the wrong drive could get erased
[18:43] <bc> Myth`: accepted or 'accept'?
[18:44] <Myth`> bc: Accept*
[18:44] <bc> Myth`: try sudo iptables -F INPUT
[18:44] <Myth`> bc: Didn't echo anything back.
[18:44] <xirrin> sevodnya: There's a very good chance I wrecked it. I was trying to figure out how to mount an NTFS drive in ubuntu and was following a walkthrough. Either the walkthrough or (more likely) I failed to do it right and I managed to kill all the windows partitions from booting or being recognized. Ubuntu reinstalled just fine, but ...it was a bad day :(
[18:44] <bc> Myth`: try sshing from wind box
[18:45] <Myth`> bc: Works.
[18:45] <yancho> hi - i am trying to instal some sensors software - al went fien but none of them are showing anywhere on desktop - any idea please?
[18:45] <xirrin> Dr_Willis: I will give it a try, as I have nothing on the drive I need anymore. I did my backup before I started playing with the fstab file. I guess I learned my lesson to backup the fstab before you play with that too.
[18:45] <bc> Myth`: so that fixed the problem right? or was there a different problem
[18:46] <Dr_Willis> xirrin:  im not sure how you even altered teh fstab this way.. it pays to learn the basics i guess
[18:46] <Myth`> bc: http://pastebin.com/m5956e935
[18:46] <Myth`> bc: Funny that there's a MANGLE argument, seems that's what I did to IPtables, I think I'm wide open haha
[18:47] <deadman> hi i would like to record audio that is streamed from a webpage... how can i do this in ubuntu... any ideas, programs welcome...
[18:47] <Dr_Willis> deadman:  depends on how its being streamed. theree is the streamtuner, and streamripper commands/tools
[18:47] <xirrin> Dr_Willis: I'll give you the link in just a second and you can tell me how dumb I was for attempting it :oP
[18:47] <bc> Myth`: reload the fw.. if you're using ufw, `/etc/init.d/ufw restart` -- dont do this if you don't use ufw though
[18:47] <tones> deadman: if its youtube or similar, just use online media ripping tools
[18:48] <bc> Myth`: wasn't the original problem that ssh from windows didn't work?
[18:48] <deadman> tones,  like?
[18:48] <xirrin> Dr_Willis: This is the tutorial I tried to use, and obviously failed at    http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindowsfstab
[18:49] <tones> deadman: "file2hd.com" or the firefox extension "videodownloadhelper"
[18:49] <deadman> Dr_Willis, its music streamed from a web player... on a site...
[18:49] <deadman> tones, thanks :) will try that
[18:49] <tones> deadman: no problem :P
[18:49] <Dr_Willis> deadman:  tht means very little to me. :) if they are uysing their own custome player.. it might be rather hard to grab
[18:50] <Myth`> bc: I'm honestly not sure if I use UFW or not. I was not able to connect to SSH from any system except the one running the server.
[18:50] <Ahlee> Is there no kernel with xen support as dom0 for jaunty?
[18:50] <Dr_Willis> xirrin:  you basically add a new line to your fstab file.. that shouldent be trashing any windows drives or anything else dangerous
[18:50] <felix__> Good evening! I installed ubuntu lately and now after I installed it from the CD, my CD-drive does not work. It does not matter what kind of CD I put in - it just does not show up. Any help?
[18:50] <deadman> Dr_Willis, yes they are using there own player
[18:50] <bc> Myth`: I thought you said a sec ago that you could (now) ssh to the server from windows?
[18:50] <Dr_Willis> xirrin:  such a task is a.. err.. well rather trivial thing.
[18:50] <Myth`> bc: That is correct.
[18:51] <Myth`> bc: What I pastebinned is what seemed to have fixed the issue.
[18:51] <Absorto> hello! I have XkbdOptions "ctrl:nocaps" set in my xorg.conf, but it doesn't work since I upgraded to jaunty. I found a coment in xorg.conf about how HAL is used now. Can I give XkbOptions to HAL?
[18:51] <bc> Myth`: yeah but you are now wide open
[18:51] <xirrin> Dr_Willis: So it seems, but I guess its probably not a task to try and tackle the first day you install linux. :)
[18:51] <Dr_Willis> xirrin:  it pays to learn the fundamentals
[18:52] <bc> Myth`: you need to find out what firewall 'manager' you're  using, then add a rule to allow ssh from the windows IP (or the local network)
[18:52] <Myth`> bc: Right, I'm still very new to linux. By default does iptables lock every port out except the ones specified with accept input or whatever?
[18:52] <IcemanV9> Myth`: just allow ssh in iptables as long as you're using port 22
[18:52] <xirrin> Dr_Willis: Indeed. Anyways, going to try the suggestion you gave me. Will let you know how it goes.
[18:52] <bc> Myth`: I don't think so. It may depend on the default for whatever firewall manager you're running and its default rules.
[18:52] <Myth`> bc: Any idea what comes pre-installed with ubuntu 9.04?
[18:52] <IcemanV9> Myth`: like sudo ufw allow ssh
[18:52] <bc> Myth`: let me poke around.. probably ufw
[18:52] <snupdc> hello my sata are not recognised with asus p5q, i switched to AHCI but still 8.0.4 ubuntu does not recognise my hdd
[18:52] <tones> felix__: try "dmesg | grep CD" and see what you can catch
[18:53] <Myth`> bc: Yes I did sudo ufw and I got a response.
[18:53] <IcemanV9> Myth`: ufw comes pre-installed with 9.04
[18:53] <bc> Myth`: looks like ufw
[18:53] <ScottG> Is there an easy way to rename a user?
[18:53] <Myth`> IcemanV9: after sudo ufw allow ssh it echoed - Skipping existing rule
[18:53] <bc> Myth`: check the ufw help page on help.ubuntu.com (use search box at top right).
[18:54] <IcemanV9> Myth`: it is there already. you can check it out by sudo ufw status
[18:54] <felix__> tones: [    0.000000] ACPI: FACP 7FE93CDD, 00F4 (r3 INTEL  CRESTLNE  6040000 ALAN        1)
[18:54] <felix__> tones: Just a oneliner.
[18:55] <IcemanV9> Myth`: like bc said help page on ufw is very good.
[18:55] <dmsuperman> 17204	2.60%	246.13M	  /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -br -audit 0 -auth /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth -nolisten tcp vt7
[18:55] <yancho> is tere sometemperature monitor without gui please?
[18:55] <dmsuperman> Anybody have any idea why X would use so much memory?
[18:55] <dmsuperman> It normally uses 130-160
[18:55] <dmsuperman> yancho: sensors
[18:55] <sevodnya> dmsuperman: are you running compiz?
[18:55] <dmsuperman> yancho: sudo apt-get install lm-sensors
[18:55] <IcemanV9> yancho: in the terminal, type acpi -t
[18:55] <snupdc> hello my sata are not recognised with asus p5q, i switched to AHCI but still 8.0.4 ubuntu does not recognise my hdd. Anyone with same problem?
[18:55] <dmsuperman> sevodnya: I'm using openbox and xcompmgr
[18:55] <yancho> thanks dmsuperman  Iceman_B|SSH
[18:56] <tones> felix__: hm. does it work on any other os you have, if any?
[18:56] <tones> felix__: if not, it might not be connected right..
[18:57] <Titanium> -f
[18:57] <sevodnya> dmsuperman: what graphics driver?
[18:57] <bc> snupdc: I had a similar problem with a different board, and disabling IDE Bus Master in BIOS solved the problem. maybe it'll help in your case, I'm not sure.
[18:57] <genii> snupdc: I had similar issue. On the motherboard CD there are RPM files which you can use alien to convert to DEB and install onto the live cd. From there it recognizes.
[18:57] <dmsuperman> sevodnya: nvidia-glx-177
[18:58] <yancho> IcemanV9, o support for device type: thermal
[18:58] <dmsuperman> yancho: lm-sensors does a lot more
[18:58] <Guest15601> hey guys, why does my screen keep flashing black for like a split second on ubuntu, its kind of annoying
[18:58] <felix__> tones: It worked in windows. But after the new ubuntu has been released I decided to kill windows and only use ubuntu. And since I'm using a notebook it should be connected.
[18:58] <snupdc> thanks bc, genil
[18:58] <genii> snupdc: There are in fact two. One for the ICH10 and one for the Marvell
[18:58] <sevodnya> dmsuperman: yeah, i haven't used xcompmgr before, but compiz usually makes X use more, to about that much, at least on my box
[18:58] <Brack10> What's the linux equivalent of netstumbler?
[18:59] <Ahlee> anybody familiar with xen and ubuntu 9.04 as the dom0?
[18:59] <dmsuperman> sevodnya: compiz doesn't increase X's memory usage by that much for me, but yeah xcompmgr is very lightweight
[18:59] <dmsuperman> sevodnya: I normally get 130MB for X
[18:59] <yancho> dmsuperman, no sensors found S:
[19:00] <ghindo> How well does Gnash 0.8.5 work for everybody?  I'm really sick of Flash devouring my CPU.
[19:00] <sevodnya> dmsuperman: i assume you're not running any 3d apps atm?
[19:00] <bc> Brack10: possibly `apt-cache search wireless | grep stumble`
[19:00] <francesco_cinier> dove è ubuntu.it
[19:00] <Pici> !it | francesco_cinier
[19:00] <infinityxi> hey i am having a problem with rhythmbox importing my music from a samba or sftp share mounted through gnome. Anyone know why this happens? I don't want to use smbmount either.
[19:00] <dmsuperman> sevodnya: Firefox is the heaviest app I'm running
[19:00] <tones> felix__: maybe the hardware just isnt supported by the kernel yet. try find the specific device name and model, google is your freind :)
[19:00] <dmsuperman> yancho: Run sensors-detect I think
[19:00] <dmsuperman> yancho: As sudo
[19:01] <IcemanV9> yancho: you might find temperature in /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/
[19:01] <mun> can aliases be run in "Run Application" (alt-f2)?
[19:01] <yancho> dmsuperman, No i2c device files found. Use prog/mkdev/mkdev.sh to create them.
[19:01] <Acsiam> hi
[19:01] <Acsiam> is there a way to disable vino server?
[19:01] <sevodnya> dmsuperman: try installing xrestop and see if firefox is using a lot of pixmap mem, it does sometimes for me
[19:02] <felix__> tones: Can you point out a way to find out which kind of hardware I have? As I mentioned I'm using a notebook where everything was built in.
[19:02] <francesco_cinier> come faccio a chattare in ubuntu.it
[19:02] <LjL> francesco_cinier: /join #ubuntu-it
[19:02] <bc> mun: I don't think so. aliases are a bash thing
[19:02] <yancho> IcemanV9, its an empt directory
[19:02] <bc> mun: you can create a bash script which you can then run through 'run application' however
[19:02] <tones> felix__: either flip the thing upside down and look at all the stickers or just google your make and model for online specs
[19:03] <mun> bc can run application execute scripts?
[19:03] <bc> mun: I don't use it, but I would imagine so
[19:03] <mun> bc i see
[19:03] <felix__> tones: And how can it be, that I could install ubuntu via this drive, but now it is not recognized?
[19:03] <bc> mun: make sure it's executable (man chmod)
[19:03] <mun> bc yes sure
[19:04] <Hiemanshu> !chmod | mun
[19:04] <IcemanV9> yancho: interesting. i don't know what to say more. sorry.
[19:04] <tones> felix__: that is odd.. perhaps not a kernel problem. but i cant help much longer i have been called away.
[19:04] <bc> mun: the script may also need to be in your $PATH
[19:04] <dmsuperman> sevodnya: The one using the most is gnome-terminal
[19:04] <yancho> IcemanV9, all folders are empty .. even battery etc
[19:04] <dmsuperman> sevodnya: 14357K
[19:05] <felix__> tones: Ofc! Thank you very much anyway! :)
[19:05] <tones> felix__: no problemo :)
[19:05] <IcemanV9> yancho: is it installed completely?
[19:05] <dmsuperman> sevodnya: Pixmaps:   55333K total, Other:     307K total, All:   55641K total
[19:05] <yancho> IcemanV9, what do  mean? the cpu has some info in its folder
[19:06] <sevodnya> dmsuperman: more than mine is using, but probably not enough to cause that much more mem use
[19:07] <IcemanV9> yancho: ok. then, i don't know why there is no info for temperature info that you want.
[19:08] <Ahlee> oh hell, ubuntu stopped supported xen
[19:08] <infinityxi> Does anyone know of a good media player that plays well with gnome-mounted shares on 9.04?
[19:08] <wildc4rd__> evening, what is a good/the best choice of Web Development software from the ubuntu package manager?
[19:08] <Hiemanshu> !media
[19:08] <dayo> wildc4rd__: vim-full
[19:09] <Hiemanshu> !media > infinityxi
[19:09] <[1]kaffien> can the alternate loader run off a usbkey?
[19:09] <Hiemanshu> [1]kaffien, you mean alternate iso?
[19:09] <[1]kaffien> yes
[19:09] <Hiemanshu> [1]kaffien, yes you can
[19:09] <Hiemanshu> you will need to mod it a little but
[19:09] <[1]kaffien> i loaded it onto my key,  booted from it, now it's whining about no cdrom being present ...
[19:09] <[1]kaffien> oh
[19:09] <wildc4rd__> cheers dayo, I'll give that a bash
[19:09] <dooner> !best | wildc4rd__
[19:09] <thiebaude> !usb
[19:10] <Hiemanshu> [1]kaffien, you will need to get a different initrd
[19:10] <dayo> wildc4rd__: also have a look at NVU and bluefish :-)
[19:10] <infinityxi> most of those wont import a playlist from a samba or sftp share. i tried it on 9.04. Banshee doesn't let me and rbox fails
[19:10] <[1]kaffien> I'm using unibootin
[19:10] <dooner> wildc4rd__: but vim is a very good choice. But not quite newbie friendly :)
[19:10] <Hiemanshu> [1]kaffien, you need to get the hd-media initrd
[19:10] <wildc4rd__> I got on OK with Kompozer from Mozilla, but it was pretty basic
[19:10] <Hiemanshu> and have the iso as well
[19:11] <Hiemanshu> !initrd | [1]kaffien
[19:11] <Hiemanshu> !ramdisk
[19:11] <[1]kaffien> what a pita  this usually isn't an issue
[19:11] <Hiemanshu> [1]kaffien, the iso has only cd drivers
[19:11] <Hiemanshu> not the hard disk one
[19:12] <[1]kaffien> then which iso do i need?
[19:12] <Hiemanshu> [1]kaffien, i modded a Ubuntu Studio install to do it
[19:12] <Hiemanshu> [1]kaffien, you can use the live cd
[19:12] <Hiemanshu> and use unetbootin with that
[19:12] <infinityxi> Hiemanshu: of those choices the media management programs won't import from a mounted remote share. I think behavior was changed at least from 8.04
[19:12] <infinityxi> local files work, just not remote
[19:12] <Hiemanshu> infinityxi, it will, amarok and vlc can
[19:13] <shubuntu> guys how do you search for a in shell?
[19:13] <[1]kaffien> oky doke .... dl again i guess
[19:13] <shubuntu> file*
[19:13] <Hiemanshu> shubuntu, find / -iname <filename?
[19:13] <dmsuperman> shubuntu: locate
[19:13] <bc> shubuntu: man find, man locate
[19:13] <Hiemanshu> !find | shubuntu
[19:14] <Wiktor> Hello
[19:14] <shubuntu> let's say i want to find where my apache stores the aliases?
[19:14] <Hiemanshu> Wiktor, hello
[19:14] <dmsuperman> shubuntu: Which aliases
[19:14] <dmsuperman> shubuntu: You mean virtual hosts?
[19:14] <Hiemanshu> shubuntu, what alisases?
[19:14] <Guest22408> I have little problem with my linux
[19:14] <Pici> !msgthebot
[19:14] <Hiemanshu> Guest22408, just ask
[19:14] <dmsuperman> shubuntu: Oh wait, /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default probably
[19:14] <shubuntu> yeah Hiemanshu
[19:15] <shubuntu> yep dmsuperman
[19:15] <Hiemanshu> shubuntu, should be in the apache.conf
[19:15] <Hiemanshu> shubuntu, that will tell you the location
[19:15] <shubuntu> so locate apache.conf?
[19:15] <yancho> dmsuperman,  u have any idea pleae?
[19:15] <Hiemanshu> shubuntu, that should be /etc/apache2/apache.conf
[19:16] <Guest22408> ok, so when i want to watch any clips, movie on youtube for example, its working like GTAIV on computer with 2Gb  RAM
[19:16] <shubuntu> ty Hiemanshu
[19:16] <Guest22408> and Geforce 7600 :P
[19:16] <Hiemanshu> Guest22408, have are you using the proper flash plugin?
[19:16] <Hiemanshu> shubuntu, no problem
[19:17] <Guest22408> i donwload adobe flash player 10 for ubuntu .deb
[19:17] <attis84> hello! In more or less all programs, when a character is displayed that is missing from the current font, it is substituted with the corresponding glyph from another typeface that has it; is this behavior application- or library-specific? Is the order of the fonts used in the resolution of missing glyphs configurable?
[19:17] <Hiemanshu> Guest22408, it should work fine then
[19:17] <DjAngo23> Hey Guys, Got a problem. Wanna choose annother default program to open for example a .php file. Right Click / Open With / Open with another Program / Select the other program i want.
[19:17] <DjAngo23> The other program opens, but doesn't save for the next time /
[19:17] <DjAngo23> Any ideas ?
[19:17] <nathan7> Isn't there an always use this program checkbox?
[19:17] <Hiemanshu> DjAngo23, you need to change the deafult file handler
[19:17] <DjAngo23> no
[19:18] <Hiemanshu> DjAngo23, should be up in the properties some where
[19:18] <DjAngo23> nathan7: No.
[19:18] <DjAngo23> Hiemanshu: where is that option ?
[19:18] <shubuntu> umm what package is it that i have to set to set my locale?
[19:18] <Guest22408> I think maybe firefox isnt good for linux so i want install opera. And when i download, my nautilius install opera, but i cant find her :/
[19:18] <Hiemanshu> DjAngo23, i am not on my ubuntu computer right now
[19:18] <shubuntu> i remember it was dpkg something
[19:19] <Hiemanshu> !locale
[19:19] <Hiemanshu> !locale > shubuntu
[19:19] <nathan7> DjAngo23: Switch to KDE!
[19:19] <DjAngo23> hihi
[19:19] <nathan7> =p
[19:19] <shubuntu> ty
[19:19] <nathan7> KDE has it
[19:19] <Hiemanshu> nathan7, not a good advice
[19:19] <nathan7> !locale > /dev/null
[19:19] <Hiemanshu> gnome has it too
[19:19] <mrwes> I've come to a conclusion. BroadcomXXX cards suck
[19:19] <nathan7> Yeah.
[19:20] <mrwes> anyone else?
[19:20] <attis84> hello, could anyone tell me where the order of missing glyph substitution can be configured?
[19:20] <nathan7> Get an Atheros.
[19:20] <Hiemanshu> mrwes, whats wrong?
[19:20] <nathan7> Hiemanshu: THey generally suck.
[19:20] <yancho> anyone else can hint me why sensors is showing that i have no sensors installed please?  - im using ubuntu .. xsensors and ksensors are not loading ether [please i need some help because i definately need to monitor my hardware]
[19:20] <DjAngo23> Hiemanshu: The problem is that much more people id ask tis, but it works for them, but i haven't that checkbox :S
[19:20] <Hiemanshu> nathan7, i am using that from a long time
[19:20] <mrwes> Hiemanshu, nuttin' just making a statement -- I have an intel :)
[19:20] <bc> yancho: run sudo sensors-detect
[19:20] <Hiemanshu> mrwes, you can say u dont live orange juice if you always drink wine :)
[19:21] <Hiemanshu> you cant*
[19:21] <Hiemanshu> like*
[19:21] <Hiemanshu> :P
[19:21] <nathan7> Live orange juice?
[19:21] <nathan7> Ah
[19:21] <yancho> bc No i2c device files found. Use prog/mkdev/mkdev.sh to create them.
[19:21] <mrwes> Hiemanshu, WTF? how did you know I was drinking a nice Cotes du Rhone?
[19:21] <deany> I dont know if its a bug or thats how its supposed to act, but the "Guest" user option when you are logged in as normal user isnt very secure.  Basically when you are logged in as User1 and you click login as Guest which switches the user and then from the Guest session you "log out" it brings you straight back to the User1 screen without any password prompt.  Must be a bug?
[19:21] <mrwes> heh
[19:21] <Hiemanshu> mrwes, just a guess ;)
[19:21] <mrwes> Hiemanshu, you're gawdly
[19:21] <thiebaude> mrwes: umm
[19:22] <bc> yancho: `locate mkdev.sh` then run it
[19:22] <mrwes> ok ok...enough
[19:22] <mrwes> sorry
[19:22] <Hiemanshu> mrwes, thats allright :)
[19:22] <yancho> bc nofound
[19:22] <mrwes> thiebaude, please dont hit me with !ot -- ok?
[19:22] <bc> yancho: hang on
[19:22] <Hiemanshu> !ot | mrwes
[19:22] <thiebaude> mrwes: you read my mine
[19:22] <Hiemanshu> :P
[19:22] <mrwes> heh...beaches
[19:23] <thiebaude> !ot
[19:23] <Hiemanshu> thiebaude, wont come up so soon :)
[19:23] <mrwes> bwahahah.....lagged bot
[19:23] <mrwes> :P
[19:23] <thiebaude> haha
[19:23] <DjAngo23> So no ideaa for the default program ?
[19:23] <mrwes> thiebaude, you don't have the juice man!
[19:23] <Hiemanshu> mrwes, no it wont work so soon , it would flod
[19:23] <Hiemanshu> DjAngo23, try ubuntuforums.org
[19:23] <Hiemanshu> and do a search
[19:23] <mrwes> Ok...who needs help?
[19:23] <thiebaude> mrwes: i have the beer, man
[19:23] <Hiemanshu> mrwes, me
[19:24] <thiebaude> !ot for me
[19:24] <mrwes> heh
[19:24]  * Dr_Willis helps himself to mrwes 's fridge
[19:24] <shubuntu> Hiemanshu: i get perl errors that my locale isn't set
[19:24] <vick> is it possible to make a video of something happening on the desktop using software, eg this chat ?
[19:24] <Hiemanshu> shubuntu, what kind of errors
[19:24] <Hiemanshu> mrwes, help me with some wine
[19:24] <shubuntu> is there a pastebin?
[19:24] <mrwes> Doc: you have a weakness for Cotes du Rhone? gawd bless you
[19:24] <LjL> !pastebin> shubuntu
[19:24] <Dr_Willis> vick:  the program 'record my desktop' and the gtk front end to it. make that easy
[19:24] <Hiemanshu> !pastebin | shubuntu
[19:24] <mrwes> Hiemanshu, you mean .wine/c_drive?
[19:24] <Dr_Willis> !info recordmydesktop
[19:25] <Hiemanshu> mrwes, no i mean Red wine ;)
[19:25] <nathan7> !pastebin < /dev/urandom
[19:25] <LjL> !record desktop | vick
[19:25] <MeanGuy> ok guys. im installing ubuntu latest version. just downloaded . booted from .. everything worked fine. tried it without installation, i logged in. . the thing is when i put "check harrdisk for errors" it tells me that it returned 1 error. and exit. . when i choose "install ubuntu" the process stops at 80% and i get a black screen
[19:25] <thiebaude> MeanGuy: you got enough Ram?
[19:25] <Flannel> MeanGuy: You mean "check disk" not hard disk, right?  as in, the CD?
[19:26] <Hiemanshu> nathan7, try this dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/sda bs=512
[19:26] <shubuntu> Hiemanshu: http://paste.ubuntu.com/173175/
[19:26] <MeanGuy> thiebaude 3gb
[19:26] <lunkhead> the sound turn down gradually until there is  no  sound  on ubuntu 9.04, why?
[19:26] <shubuntu> there's the error
[19:26] <thiebaude> np
[19:26] <vick> Greaat, do you guys know if there is like advanced option to capture only in the video one application or a certain region within the desktop ?
[19:26] <MeanGuy> Flannel yep
[19:26] <mad3linux> MeanGuy, maybe your HD has badblocks :(
[19:26] <MeanGuy> mad3linux thats what i thought to. but its fine here on windows . 160gb
[19:26] <Dr_Willis> vick:  install the front end to it.. it let you box an area
[19:26] <yancho> bc, other ideas please?
[19:26] <mad3linux> hmm
[19:26] <bc> yancho: modprobe i2c-dev
[19:26] <Flannel> MeanGuy: right.  You've got a bad disk.  You'll need to redo it.  The error must not have made a difference in the live session.
[19:26] <rom> hi
[19:26] <Flannel> MeanGuy: It's not your hard drive, its the CD.
[19:26] <rom> in jaunty, gajim doesn't have any icon in systray :(
[19:27] <nathan7> Hiemanshu: Haha.
[19:27] <bc> yancho: then run sensors-detect again
[19:27] <MeanGuy> mad3linux already got 98% difragged without a problem
[19:27] <Hiemanshu> shubuntu, too bad i never seen it sorry :(
[19:27] <leeguy92> hi all
[19:27] <nathan7> Hiemanshu: It doesn't work here, could you try it on your box first? xD
[19:27] <MeanGuy> Flannel alrightie, i'll make another copy, if i find another cd -.-
[19:27] <Hiemanshu> nathan7, how about rm -rf / ?
[19:27] <mint3> i lost grub, how do i re install it
[19:27] <shubuntu> ok i guess google is my friend
[19:27] <mad3linux> MeanGuy, try to download other iso of ubuntu. Maybe your CD has fails...
[19:27] <shubuntu> lol
[19:27] <MeanGuy> can i boot from the image from a flash disk?
[19:27] <Flannel> !danger nathan7
[19:27] <nathan7> Hiemanshu: Sure.
[19:28] <nathan7> Flannel: I'm not that dumb.
[19:28] <nathan7> nathan@lion:~$ sudo rm -rf /
[19:28] <nathan7> rm: cannot remove root directory `/'
[19:28] <nathan7> I know Debian.
[19:28] <Flannel> nathan7: Please don't paste that here.
[19:28] <MeanGuy> hehehe.
[19:28] <mint3> i lost grub, how do i re install it
[19:28] <nathan7> Debian wins.
[19:28] <lunkhead> the sound turn down gradually until there is  no  sound  in jaunty, why?
[19:28] <Hiemanshu> m back
[19:28] <MeanGuy> once i told someone to do that ,and he came back after few days crying about it
[19:28] <vick> greaat, thanks alot guys
[19:28] <leeguy92> how would i go about switching back to vesa from nvidia blob drivers on ibex?
[19:28] <nathan7> Heh
[19:28] <Flannel> Hiemanshu: Malice is not for this channel.  Please don't do it again.
[19:28] <nathan7> I once did that on a VM
[19:28] <leeguy92> being as there is no xorg.conf
[19:28] <MeanGuy> anyways.. thanx guys for the points ...
[19:28] <nathan7> just to see what happened
[19:29] <Hiemanshu> Flannel, it was just a little fun talk sorry
[19:29] <Flannel> MeanGuy: try burning at a lower speed.  Also, check the md5 of your iso.
[19:29] <nathan7> Rm -rf /<something I'm not saying here> does work.
[19:29] <mint3> can anyone help me re install grub
[19:29] <mint3> !gruv
[19:29] <mint3> !grub
[19:29] <Flannel> nathan7: Again, you say any variation of the theme again, you'll be banned.
[19:29] <yancho> thanks dc, i ran detect but running - sensors still gives me no sensors found
[19:29] <nathan7> Flannel: Have fun.
[19:29] <nathan7> Flannel: I'm just here because I like to help people.
[19:29] <nathan7> Flannel: I don't care.
[19:30] <bc> yancho: hmm.. did you run sudo sensors-detect (with the sudo in front)?
[19:30] <Hiemanshu> Flannel, we are here to help and have a little fun
[19:30] <yancho> yes bc
[19:30] <Flannel> nathan7,Hiemanshu: helping people generally doesn't involve ruining their machines.  Please read the IRC guidelines if you're unsure what's kosher here.
[19:30] <rob0917> any tips for a new ubuntu user?
[19:30] <bc> yancho: what did sensors-detect say?
[19:30] <mad3linux> mint3, what OS's in your HD?
[19:30] <MeanGuy> Flannel alrightie. thanx. i'll probably download another copy if that one didn't work . thanx for the help
[19:30] <Hiemanshu> Flannel, the talk was only between us
[19:30] <mad3linux> is it Windows and Linux?
[19:30] <Hiemanshu> rob0917, read the docs
[19:31] <jjjren_irc> Hi everbody.
[19:31] <LjL> Hiemanshu: then it should have been in a private query.
[19:31] <Hiemanshu> !documentation | rob0917
[19:31] <Flannel> Hiemanshu: It was in a public channel.  If you'd like to discuss policy further, I'd love to do it with you in #ubuntu-ops.  No need to add more noise to this channel.
[19:31] <rob0917> thanks
[19:31] <jjjren_irc> I just deleted an user account by mistake. Anybody knows how to reactivate that account?
[19:31] <andrew___1> How do i upgrade from hardy heron to Jaunty Jackalope?
[19:31] <wildc4rd__> good call dayo, vim looks OK
[19:31] <LjL> !upgrade > andrew___1    (andrew___1, see the private message from ubottu)
[19:31] <Hiemanshu> Flannel, its alright, wont do it again :)
[19:32] <Flannel> andrew___1: You'll have to upgrade to 8.10 and then to 9.04, instructions are in the link ubottu just sent you
[19:32] <Flannel> Hiemanshu: thank you
[19:32] <mint3> anyone can help with re installing grub?
[19:32] <yancho> bc : http://www.pastebin.ca/1423945
[19:32] <perlsyntax> Where can find livecd creator for ubuntu?
[19:32] <Hiemanshu> mint3, yes what is wrong?
[19:32] <Hiemanshu> perlsyntax, what exactly do you mean?
[19:33] <mint3> Hiemanshu - i got on this hard drive,2 partitions, vista and ubuntu
[19:33] <perlsyntax> so i can make my own ubuntu cd
[19:33] <mint3> Hiemanshu - i am downloading windows 7 RC and intend to install it on here too .
[19:33] <perlsyntax> withthe package i want on it.
[19:33] <Hiemanshu> !livecd
[19:33] <perlsyntax> yes
[19:33] <mint3> i been told that grub will be killed when i install win 7
[19:33] <Flannel> perlsyntax: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[19:33] <Flannel> !grub | mint3
[19:33] <nathan7> Flannel, making jokes between each other and helping users are two things.
[19:33] <mad3linux> mint3, you can boot the ubuntu?
[19:34] <mint3> Flannel, i been reading that, thanks.
[19:34] <Flannel> mint3: first link there are for restoring GRUB after windows eats it
[19:34] <Dr_Willis> mint3:  windows will overwrite the existing MBR . thus removeing the grub menu. thats not quite the same as 'killing' :)
[19:34] <mint3> I not tried it yet mad3linux
[19:34] <mint3> Dr_Willis, you get the gist of things.
[19:34] <Hiemanshu> mint3, boot from live cd
[19:34] <lakedenman> I have an ubuntu box set up on the local network and when I ssh in and run the 'ls' command, the box loses internet and won't reconnect until I reboot. anyone seen this before?
[19:34] <thiebaude> mint3: its better to install windows first then ubuntu
[19:34] <bc> yancho: the modules in the lines between 'cut here', check to see if lsmod shows them as being loaded. For example, `lsmod | grep i2c`
[19:34] <Dr_Willis> mint3:  if you are installing windows to its own hard drive.. and linux on another.. you may want to unplug the linux drive.
[19:34] <mint3> thiebaude, i know
[19:34] <Hiemanshu> mint3, then do a grub-insatll /dev/sda
[19:34] <nathan7> lakedenman: =0
[19:34] <thiebaude> kewl
[19:34] <mint3> its all in 1 hard drive
[19:35] <mint3> i have 2 partitions right now. one for ubuntu and one for vista.
[19:35] <bc> yancho: also check the others, like eeprom and w83627hf
[19:35] <lakedenman> nathan7: yeah, exactly
[19:35] <lakedenman> :D
[19:35] <mad3linux> mint3, if you can, the search for the file /boot/grub/menu.list
[19:35] <mint3> am in the process to installing Win 7 on a new partition.
[19:35] <Dr_Willis> Grub is the kind of tool. thats worth learning all about.
[19:35] <Flannel> nathan7: Again, if you'd like to discuss it further, I'd be happy to discuss semantics in #ubuntu-ops.  If you do it in public, it's public.  Public malicious commands are not welcome, regardless of who they are directed towards or intended for.
[19:35] <yancho> yes they are there bc
[19:35] <Hiemanshu> nathan7, stop it
[19:35] <mrwes> rutrow
[19:35] <nathan7> Hiemanshu: ?
[19:35] <Hiemanshu> you would not want you a** kicked
[19:35] <yancho> bc eeprom and w83627f no
[19:36] <mrwes> do it
[19:36] <Hiemanshu> nathan7, just help no fun
[19:36] <bc> yancho: if they are indeed loaded, then you may have to google `lm-sensors` and your motherboard model to find out if the chip driver needs a force= argument to get it to load.
[19:36] <cemunal> can somebody help me to enable mesa?
[19:37] <omnen> im in a live environment and ive got the following setup: http://yfrog.com/0kscreenshotdevsdagpartedp
[19:37] <omnen> how do i make the unallocated space a part of sda6?
[19:37] <Hiemanshu> !mesa | cemunal
[19:37] <bc> yancho: e.g. rm <mod> ; modprobe <mod> force=x,xxxx
[19:37] <mad3linux> !/boot/grub/menu.lst
[19:37] <cemunal> Hiemanshu, thanks :P
[19:37] <omnen> currently it doesnt seem like the sda6 wants to incorporate more space....
[19:37] <Hiemanshu> omnen, use gparted to extend
[19:37] <yancho> let me chck bc
[19:37] <bc> yancho: err, sorry, make that rmmod, not rm
[19:37] <mad3linux> =/
[19:38] <Hiemanshu> cemunal, have heard of mesa, what is it really?
[19:38] <omnen> Hiemanshu: if you'd check the picture you'd known thats what im trying to do....
[19:38] <thiebaude> !mesa
[19:38] <Dr_Willis> omnen:  it could be because its part of a logical partition, insoide an extended..  Youmay need to grow sda4 first.. then resize sda6
[19:38] <Hiemanshu> omnen, well the space is outside the extended partition
[19:39] <Dr_Willis> omnen:  is theres some reason you are using such a complex layout? you really dont need your own /var and /boot much tehse days
[19:39] <omnen> so i grow sda first, then try?
[19:39] <Hiemanshu> omnen, you will have to delete the extended which you would not want
[19:39] <Dr_Willis> 1 gb for /var/ seems VERY small
[19:39] <Hiemanshu> omnen, you cannot
[19:39] <omnen> well basically its not my layoout (i would NEVER do it this way)
[19:39] <bc> yancho: try `sudo modprobe eeprom` and `sudo modprobe w83627hf` as well, if you said they weren't loaded.
[19:39] <Hiemanshu> Dr_Willis, depends on the needs
[19:39] <mad3linux> someone know bout frets on fire and an error bout python?
[19:39] <TheFunkbomb> Does anyone else have an issue with Nexuiz pro freezing?
[19:40] <Hiemanshu> mad3linux, try #python
[19:40] <omnen> but it is imperative that the unallocated space gets used by the sda6
[19:40] <Dr_Willis> 1 gb for / also seems small. :)
[19:40] <leeguy92> how do i remove the proprietary nvidia drivers?
[19:40] <Dexter_F> hi
[19:40] <Hiemanshu> omnen, its not, the exteneded partion cannot be done
[19:40] <Dexter_F> need to play mp3 from a 9.04 live cd for testing
[19:40] <Dexter_F> wont do. what do i need to install?
[19:40] <Hiemanshu> Dr_Willis, again the use factor steps in
[19:40] <yancho> ok now bc  thanks works :))
[19:40] <mad3linux> Hiemanshu, when I try to run then an error occured.
[19:41] <Hiemanshu> Dexter_F, gstreamer-plugins
[19:41] <GaveUp> is there a way to disable the detection and loading of the bttv module during a boot from the live cd to install?  When the bttv module loads it locks the system up preventing me from installing (detects a Fusion3 Gold card).
[19:41] <joshthecoder> question, my kernel update went bad how can i trigger it to do a full reinstall?
[19:41] <Hiemanshu> !info gstreamer-plugins | Dexter_F
[19:41] <mad3linux> something about python and GLX?
[19:41] <Hiemanshu> mad3linux, no idea
[19:41] <yancho> thanks alot dc!!! much apprecaetd
[19:41] <Hiemanshu> try #python
[19:41] <omnen> Hiemanshu: what i meant was that is absolutely neccessary for me that the sda6 gets all the unallocated space
[19:41] <mad3linux> thankx
[19:41] <omnen> Hiemanshu: in some way
[19:42] <mad3linux> =/
[19:42] <bc> yancho: great! make sure they are in /etc/modules as indicated by http://www.pastebin.ca/1423945
[19:42] <mad3linux> :(
[19:42] <elektrot> hey;]
[19:42] <Hiemanshu> omnen, you will need to delete the extended partiion not possible i think
[19:42] <telequito> alguien me puede ayudar con virtualbox
[19:42] <telequito> no consigo activar el usb he hecho todos los pasos
[19:42] <Conchaman> helloooo
[19:42] <Hiemanshu> Conchaman, hellooo
[19:42] <mad3linux> what's your problem telequito?
[19:42] <yancho> bc just see them listed is eough right?
[19:42] <shubuntu> Hiemanshu: ok i fixed the locale problem, now there's a problem with locate, it says locate: can not open `/var/lib/mlocate/mlocate.db': No such file or directory
[19:42] <thiebaude> !es
[19:43] <dooner> GaveUp: blacklist bttv ?
[19:43] <telequito> activate usb in virtualbox
[19:43] <Hiemanshu> shubuntu, you will need to build the locate database
[19:43] <kj93pl-demon> hello
[19:43] <mad3linux> hmm, I have the same problem..
[19:43] <RHorse> whoopie I'm conneccted!!
[19:43] <Hiemanshu> shubuntu, not very sure bout it :(
[19:43] <shubuntu> ellaborate?
[19:43] <shubuntu> ok
[19:43] <inka_> istanbul
[19:43] <Hiemanshu> shubuntu, you need to build an db from which locate can search
[19:43] <mad3linux> but i fixed :)
[19:44] <raylu> shubuntu: sudo updatedb
[19:44] <Hiemanshu> shubuntu, i an not sure how to do it, i remember reading it some where about it
[19:44] <kj93pl-demon> uhm, some one know how to install npcc on ubuntu 9.4?
[19:44] <mad3linux> let me remenber how i do......
[19:44] <Lichte> How do I get input text boxes on web pages to print properly ???  The fonts are way to large to see on the printed page.
[19:44] <Hiemanshu> !locate db
[19:44] <shubuntu> raylu: thanks it worked
[19:44] <raylu> Lichte: ctrl -
[19:45] <Lichte> raylu, that doesn't work
[19:45] <Hiemanshu> Lichte, its a ubuntu support forum
[19:45] <Lichte> Heimark, ah, so just search there ?
[19:45] <dooner> !blacklist | GaveUp
[19:45] <_Rha7_> Hi every1, I have 2 net interfaces, eth0 is external, with its default gateway, the second is internal eth1, and has it's own gateway, (both are set up static), when I add 'gateway 10.150.x.x' to eth1, I end up with two default gateways and ubuntu just gets messed up with external connections ... Ho can I fix it?
[19:45] <omnen> Hiemanshu: well as i notice, the extended thingy cant be resized, the sda6 cant be resized beyond the extended thing, im pretty much screwed...
[19:45] <Lichte> Hiemanshu, ah, so search there ?
[19:45] <Hiemanshu> Lichte, you want to decrease the size of text?
[19:45] <mrwes> Hiemanshu> Lichte, its a ubuntu support forum ?
[19:46] <Lichte> Hiemanshu, yes
[19:46] <darthanubis> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_910_alpha1&num=1
[19:46] <Hiemanshu> omnen, yes thats what i am trying to tell
[19:46] <Lichte> Hiemanshu, just in the print out though
[19:46] <Lichte> Hiemanshu, it looks great on screen and the print preview
[19:46] <omnen> Hiemanshu: well thanks for explaining the situation then
[19:46] <mad3linux> telequito, u need to give permission to mount the devices.
[19:47] <Sotbar7> uit]
[19:47] <Hiemanshu> gotta leave guys bye
[19:47] <Lichte> Hiemanshu, it only on the printed page that the text is too large to fit in the box and read
[19:47] <mad3linux> after u install the virtualbox, is created an archive of configuration
[19:47] <Lichte> anyone else know?
[19:47] <martin29> i've just installed an apache server in my home machine (ubuntu), and it seems to work... how do i make it accesible from the outside, now?
[19:48] <mad3linux> martin29, u need an valid IP....
[19:48] <mrwes> http://www.frys.com/product/5926614?site=frysecampaign <--- hrmm...nice lappy
[19:48] <Flannel> martin29: You'll need to set up port forwarding (80) on your router.  That's generally easiest done with the server having a static IP (on the subnet)
[19:48] <dooner> martin29: Too many variables.  But simple WAG would be port fwd port 80 to the internal machine assuming you are behind a NAT device.
[19:49] <Dexter_F> what sound system does 9.04 live use by default?
[19:49] <martin29> i already did that... just like i had forwarded the other ports for bittorrent
[19:49] <Dexter_F> how can i check? how disable?
[19:49] <GaveUp> dooner: so basically you're saying make that change, rebuild an iso and reburn it?
[19:49] <Dexter_F> uh, disable pulse that is
[19:49] <Flannel> martin29: then you should be OK.  Just access your public IP on http and you should see it.
[19:49] <dooner> GaveUp: you mean it isn't installing?
[19:49] <bc> yeah if they are in /etc/modules then you are good on the next boot
[19:50] <Dexter_F> ah, nvm its pulse
[19:50] <bc> yancho: yeah if they are in /etc/modules then you are good on the next boot
[19:50] <martin29> Flannel: i tried that, but i get my router's login page
[19:50] <GaveUp> dooner: right...hangs on booting the install cd
[19:50] <Jonaelmanco> sssssssssss
[19:51] <GaveUp> dooner: i realize i could pull the card, install, blacklist, and replace the card but that's not exactly a great solution
[19:51] <Flannel> martin29: That means its not forwarding properly (or... your router doesn't let you do that, which seems unlikely)
[19:51] <dooner> martin29:  are you attemping to get to it from your PC?
[19:51] <martin29> dooner: yep
[19:51] <ironfoot495> hi can someone help me figure out why when I activate compiz on 8.10 my screen crashes???
[19:51] <sacarlson> ﻿_Rha7_: I'm not sure you need two default gateways.  backup in case one fails?
[19:52] <martin29> dooner: should i try from a web proxy ?
[19:52] <dooner> martin29:  that probably won't work.
[19:52] <Wiktor> Hi
[19:52] <Wiktor> I have problem
[19:52] <ironfoot495> When I try to activate compiz driver I loose my screen?
[19:52] <FrankQC> Does anyone know how to get timestamps in Emesene
[19:53] <dooner> martin29: you can try from outside and see.
[19:53] <soluxione> #ubuntu-it
[19:53] <Canaman> has someone tried a Lexmark E330 with ubuntu. I tried a lot of drivers, but still not working..
[19:53] <ironfoot495> has anyone had this problem?
[19:53] <Guest61772> Becose sometimes when i using computer i cant click on anythink :/ Only keyboard work, and i can "fly" my cursor on the screen
[19:53] <dooner> GaveUp: yeah not elegant, but probably faster than rebuilding the iso
[19:54] <martin29> donner: i guess i should also allow port 80 in iptables, right?
[19:54] <dooner> martin29:  from inside the router might be confused with the hair pinning.
[19:54] <izzle> WooTe
[19:54] <Guest61772> Enyone know how i can repair it ??
[19:54] <dooner> martin29: you would need to if  you are blocking it currently :)
[19:54] <GaveUp> dooner: yeah...was hoping there was an flag that could be passed on boot ... guess i could grab a debian minimal iso and install that then repoint apt to ubuntu and upgrade...
[19:55] <Flannel> GaveUp: can't you just use the alternate CD?
[19:55] <martin29> dooner: i just did... is my computer like totally insecure right now?
[19:56] <dooner> GaveUp: yeah I not sure if you can do ti from the boot loader (never tried)
[19:57] <dooner> martin29:  well if you run a webserver connected to the public internet there is some level of insecurity. need to make sure all the scripts etc are secure..
[19:57] <Flannel> GaveUp: What's wrong with using the alternate CD?
[19:58] <TheFunkbomb> Why does Nexuiz Pro and OpenArena freeze up on me?
[19:58] <dooner> martin29:  hitting your ip with a browser bring up php proxy, is that what you where looking to do?
[19:58] <Guest61772> Hello :)
[19:58] <Guest61772> I have BIG PROBLEM
[19:58] <`brandon`> how do i know witch type of ubuntu i am running like amd64 or i386
[19:58] <`brandon`> ?
[19:58] <martin29> donner: yes, that's it
[19:58] <martin29> dooner: i guess you already tried my ip  :)
[19:59] <davis> hello
[20:00] <davis> I was wondering if anyone has gotten Xvnc working with gdm login?
[20:00] <Guest61772> Sometimes i cang, click on anythinkk, somethink like linux stop responding, buy with keyboard i can do anything.
[20:00] <Guest61772> Anyone can help ?
[20:01] <dooner> `brandon`: uname -a
[20:01] <`brandon`> !help | Guest61772
[20:01] <dooner> martin29:  yep already tried ..
[20:02] <nuno_nunes> Hi
[20:02] <nuno_nunes> Plz help
[20:02] <`brandon`> Dooner: what do i do with a .udeb file
[20:02] <Strife89> I accidentally installed the 32-bit version of Jaunty on a 64-bit machine. Is it possible to "upgrade" to the 64-bit OS without jeopardizing my setup? If so, what are the risks?
[20:02] <martin29> dooner: cool it works... i couldn't try it myself, but a friend helped
[20:02] <mg_> OK hello, I have sound issues I have tried comprehensive at the forum, not sure where i went wrong
[20:02] <martin29> dooner: thanks a lot
[20:02] <martin29> dooner: now, can i protect my homepage with a password ?
[20:03] <`brandon`> Dooner: btw i am trying to get mercurial
[20:03] <nuno_nunes> To configure this a compiz for intel i965 (X3100) on a linux ubuntu 9.04
[20:03] <dooner> martin29:  if running apache, just google for htaccess and you should be all set. for the password stuff
[20:03] <`brandon`> !mercurial : `brandon`
[20:03] <martin29> dooner: cool, thanks
[20:04] <`brandon`> !compiz : nuni_nunes
[20:04] <davis> Strife: if your /home is mounted on another drive that would save user data if  you don't format it on reinstall
[20:04] <Flannel> !compiz | nuno_nunes
[20:05] <nuno_nunes> This a grafical card is a work 2D
[20:05] <nuno_nunes> :S
[20:05] <dooner> `brandon`:  .udeb is stripped down .deb package,   gdebi  should be able to deal with it.
[20:05] <Strife89> davis: So I need to get another CD image?
[20:05] <vigo> Is Caldega a good thing or do I have to install windoze for it to work?
[20:05] <BLTnoTomato> ...
[20:05] <davis> Strife: I don't know for sure, but I imagine you'd have to reinstall, but I'm not sure
[20:05] <nuno_nunes> plz help this a download a drivers for intel i965
[20:06] <nuno_nunes> :S
[20:06] <mg_> I tried purging....lol now i am running xubuntu, which i kinda like
[20:06] <Strife89> davis: I'll keep looking then. :)
[20:06] <naadde> Hello! How do I update my ubuntu 8.04 to ubuntu 9.04 (no KDE please) I tried to google but no such luck
[20:06] <spence> naadde: i just did it an hour ago
[20:07] <naadde> spence: how :o
[20:07] <`brandon`> !compiz : nuno_nunes (Please read what the bot posts)
[20:07] <spence> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/904 head to this page, download the .iso, burn that file to a disc
[20:07] <nuno_nunes> :S
[20:07] <Strife89> naadde: System -> Administration -> Update Manager
[20:07] <naadde> not possible to update from 8.04 to 9.04 with just update manager?
[20:07] <naadde> Strife89: ahh and what to do in the update manager?
[20:08] <nuno_nunes> i using this a linux ubuntu 9.04
[20:08] <`brandon`> naadde: yes
[20:08] <dooner> `brandon`: s/:/|/g :)
[20:08] <spence> i didn't know you could just upgrade, i was told in here it was a bad idea
[20:08] <`brandon`> update manager
[20:08] <Strife89> naadde: You have to upgrade to 8.10 first if you use that route; then you can upgrade to 9.04.
[20:08] <naadde> ok
[20:09] <Strife89> spence: I will admit that upgrading that way has more than its fair share of kinks.
[20:09] <vigo> nuno_nunes: I think the option is also in the Software Sources thing, System>Administration>Software Sources...
[20:09] <davis> anyone have Xvnc working to do remote gdm login?
[20:09] <`brandon`> how do i run mercurial?
[20:09] <Strife89> From my experience, at least.
[20:09] <Shadow_Sam> hi all  - why this is happen? http://www.mibbit.com/pb/JwwIii - when I open nautilus using gksu and try it to connect a server, the combo type of services is empty. when I run nautilus as my user, it's ok. the combo has various services... ssh, ftp etc...
[20:10] <mg_> anyone have any advice on how to fix sound, or where i could go?
[20:10] <Spielkind> exit
[20:10] <Spielkind> logout
[20:10] <vigo> mg_: Do you have Pulse installed?
[20:11] <mg_> no i dont think so
[20:11] <dooner> `brandon`: hg iirc, but am more of a git user myself
[20:11] <vigo> mg_: That might be the error, Pulse along with Alsa work.
[20:11] <`brandon`> hg iirc?
[20:11] <`brandon`> ah thank you
[20:11] <mg_> vigo command line?
[20:12] <dooner> `brandon`:  the mercurial program is hg.   iirc = If I recall Correctly :)
[20:12] <vigo> mg_: Not really, it is in Synaptics Package Manager
[20:12] <mg_> vigo ok thanks i will try
[20:13] <vigo> mg_: okee dokee, I had the same error, worked it out with Pulse
[20:14] <GaveUp> Flannel: that was my next try...just haven't gotten around to it
[20:15] <`brandon`> Dooner: http://paste.ubuntu.com/173199/ why am i getting this error do you know?
[20:15] <Flannel> GaveUp: It should install with no trouble
[20:16] <MeXTux> I'm trying to install a command line system (without desktop) using the Ubuntu 8.04.2 alternate disc but when it boots I don't see the "Install a command-line system" option. Any idea??
[20:16] <mg_> can't find Pulse in synaptic, maybe i need to download it?
[20:16] <Flannel> MeXTux: hit f4 or f5, there's more options (I don't remember which), one of which is "Command line only system"
[20:17] <vigo> mg_: let me look a sec,,,
[20:17] <MeXTux> ohhh ok Thanks, pal :)
[20:17] <mg_> vigo I am running xubuntu since last night....by accident
[20:17] <grkgeek> Hello I have been trying to find out how to make a prog autorun at startup which requires root priviledges
[20:18] <mg_> vigo which will tell you something about my comp skills
[20:18] <grkgeek> without me writing pass all the time that is
[20:18] <Flannel> !bum | grkgeek
[20:18] <vigo> mg_: 9.04?
[20:18] <dooner> `brandon`: no idea really sorry.. maybe the mercurial server is having issues?  503 is the http error code for service unavailable  appears to be server side.
[20:18] <bob__> does anyone know what i need to use to burn music cds?
[20:18] <mg_> vigo dapper
[20:19] <vigo> mg_: ok
[20:19] <ejv> bob__: k3b
[20:19] <davis> bob: brasereo or gnomebaker
[20:19] <bob__> so whats the install command?
[20:19] <davis> bob: u running gnome or kde?
[20:19] <bob__> gnome
[20:20] <ejv> you can use k3b under gnome :p
[20:20] <davis> bob: brasero should be installed by default
[20:20] <mg_> vigo if I upgrade maybe it will solve some problems?
[20:20] <mg_> vigo most willing to do so
[20:20] <davis> mg: true :)
[20:20] <dooner> grkgeek: you want it to run when you login? or when computer boots?
[20:20] <_Rha7_> sacarlson, actually I needed to add 'up route add blah blah' and 'down route del blah blah' to /etc/network/interfaces :) Thanks Anyway
[20:20] <unko> hey can someone help me? what im trying to do is make a custom launcher that emulates key strokes. im basicaly trying to make a launcher that emulates the key combination: shift, alt, and Z. im trying to make it activate the expo plugin in compiz
[20:21] <dassouki> my max ubuntu volume is less than my vista one. Is there a reason for that ?
[20:21] <`brandon`> Okay it is done but i do not know where to find the file at can someone help me out please? http://paste.ubuntu.com/173200/
[20:21] <Itaku> does anyone have windows 7 and/or know how to install ubuntu from windows 7 using the same technique as https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows does? (theres no boot.ini in windows 7)
[20:21] <mg_> leaning towards upgrade, will my settings be saved?
[20:21] <shivraj_> hi I use debian before and whenever I plug in my camera it finds it automatically
[20:21] <shivraj_> what packages do I have to install to get this ?
[20:21] <shivraj_> I tried gtkam, gphoto2 .. no luck
[20:22] <vigo> mg_: That looks like the solution
[20:22] <mg_> vigo ok thanks for your help
[20:22] <unko>  hey can someone help me? what im trying to do is make a custom launcher that emulates key strokes. im basicaly trying to make a launcher that emulates the key combination: shift, alt, and Z. im trying to make it activate the expo plugin in compiz
[20:23] <vancouver> hi to all. I have a boot question: on drive 1 is openSUSE installed, grub is in the mbr installed. on the second drive is ubuntu installed. grub for ubuntu is on the root partition of drive2. when i try to boot ubuntu i always get the error-message: Error 13:Invalid or unsupported executable format.i also tried the map option in grub, without success.Does anybody know what the problem is?
[20:23] <vigo> mg_: 8.04 can handle it, but careful on upgrading, that is do not jump releases,ie. 7.8.9
[20:23] <mg_> vigo OK i will look for 8.04
[20:24] <Enissay> I'm using UberScript for XChat, when trying to slap someone i got this "Usage: TIMER [-refnum <num>] [-repeat <num>] <seconds> <command>"... how to use it please?
[20:24] <vigo> mg_: Just download the iso and do a clean install, backup your personal settings and documents, and such.
[20:25] <mg_> vigo sourceforge?
[20:25] <vigo> mg_: No, get it from Ubuntu
[20:25] <WageofSin> Hello
[20:25] <WageofSin> test
[20:25] <WageofSin> test
[20:25] <Decepticon> test failed!
[20:25] <FloodBot1> WageofSin: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:25] <mg_> vigo thanks off I go,
[20:25] <Decepticon> test failed!
[20:25] <WageofSin> sorry
[20:26] <vigo> mg_: have fun! see you in 20mins or so
[20:26] <unko> so anyone know how to make a command that emulates key strokes? i wanna create a icon that launches my widget layer and my expo plugin...
[20:27] <IcemanV9> unko: system > preferences > keyboard shortcuts
[20:27] <vigo> unko: There is a GUI thing for or that can maybe do that.
[20:27] <unko> IcemanV9, no not like that.. i want a icon that i make a command in terminal to do it
[20:28] <davis> unko: I would google for a command to send keystrokes, then just make the launcher run it with whatever options needed
[20:28] <vigo> unko: Preferences>Keyboard, I had to use that to make a IceCat launcher.
[20:28] <unko> wait... lemme rephrase this.. i want a command that when i enter it makes a key stroke..
[20:29] <unko> ok thanks guys ill look at that :P
[20:29] <kandjar> hey there
[20:29] <felix_> hi i have a problem running debootstrap. i get this error, during a mirror update::: >> I: Extracting zlib1g...W: Failure trying to run: chroot /esclavo/repository/tmp/hardy-i386 /sbin/ldconfig
[20:30] <kandjar> stupid question: is there a way to generate the WEP Hex key from the passphrase?
[20:30] <sacarlson> ﻿unko: take a look at the packages wmctrl and xautomation they have the function xte that can send key strocks and wmctrl to set focus on the window you want to send them to.
[20:30] <lstarnes> felix_: you might need to use sudo for that
[20:30] <felix_> lstarnes, im root
[20:30] <lstarnes> felix_: using sudo?
[20:31] <felix_> lstarnes, sudo su turned me to root
[20:31] <unko> sacarlson, what im trying to do is make a launcher that when i click on it, it launches my widget layer. but in order to do that i need a cammand that simluates key strokes
[20:31] <lstarnes> felix_: it might be safer to use sudo -i.  Do you get any additional messages?
[20:31] <sysdoc> I just installed Ubuntustudio over an existing Ubuntu Desktop install. Of course, X breaks at boot, with the nvidia 173 drivers installed from the repos, will I be able to reconfig X using nvidia-config for the new kernel?
[20:32] <felix_> lstarnes, no
[20:32] <sacarlson> ﻿unko: xte does that
[20:32] <unko> sacarlson, really?
[20:32] <sacarlson> ﻿unko: yes
[20:32] <CiPHER_> Anyone know a remedy for jumping mouse in jaunty?
[20:32] <unko> sacarlson,  i don't see the package..
[20:33] <cemunal> if i don't install my screen driver; the screen is slided right; how can i fix it?
[20:33] <blck> good evening
[20:33] <ian_mac> CiPHER - tape a rock to the top of your mouse
[20:33] <sysdoc> lol
[20:34] <blck> well how do I get fglrx working via HAL? See my problem is that the normal fglrx Instllation ends with a blackscreen
[20:34] <_Rha7_> unko, use xvkbd, like xvkbd -xsendevent -text "\Ca"
[20:34] <sacarlson> unko: package is xautomation
[20:34] <_Rha7_> unko, that's a Ctrl+A
[20:35] <yaris123456789> when wget -r works, is it checking the downloaded copy whether its already downloaded that URL ? or is everything done in memory. so as wget -r is working , what if i was to delete random downloaded files. would this make wget -r redownload these deleted files ?
[20:35] <unko> _Rha7_, can i talk to you in private?
[20:35] <_Rha7_> unko, sure
[20:35] <glitsj16> unko: if the widget layer you're refering to is the compiz one, that has keyboard/mouse activation built-in, yet another option
[20:36] <CiPHER_> Can someone PLEASE help me fix an issue with ps2 mouse in jaunty?
[20:38] <ranf> kandjar, echo xxx | od -x
[20:39] <ranf> kandjar, check "man od" I'm not sure about -x
[20:40] <lucax> is anyone here using gnome-globalmenu with firefox?
[20:41] <glitsj16> lucax: when i looked into gnome-globalmenu some time ago, it specifically mentioned firefox as one of the applications that were not supported ... have you checked if that is now supported by gnome-globalmenu ?
[20:41] <evanrmurphy> I'm having trouble getting FireGPG to work with Gmail. Every time I attempt to sign and encrypt an email, I get the error message "Signing and encryption failed." after entering my private key password. Any suggestions?
[20:42] <evanrmurphy> I've tried reinstalling the FireGPG add-on with the same results.
[20:42] <boringpackets> howcome aircrack-ng, aireplay-ng, airodump and airmon-ng are NOT in the ubuntu repositories?
[20:42] <boringpackets> that really disappoints me
[20:43] <lstarnes> boringpackets: possiblty for legal reasons
[20:43] <SiDi> p   aircrack-ng                     - wireless WEP/WPA cracking utilities
[20:43] <lucax> glitsj16: nope they say it isnt, but ive seen some pictures of ubuntu users with globalmenu on and firefox runin on it quite well... but just pics none said how they did it... i found some fix for hackin firefox and loading it as if it was a gtk app.... ive tried it but didnt work for me
[20:43] <SiDi> !info aircrack-ng
[20:43] <SiDi> boringpackets: see above
[20:43] <SiDi> !universe | boringpackets
[20:43] <boringpackets> Ah, my mistake.
[20:43] <lstarnes> boringpackets: you do need the universe repo for those packages
[20:43] <boringpackets> I'll uncomment it
[20:43] <boringpackets> Sorry!
[20:44] <SiDi> boringpackets: only this one is there though :P
[20:44] <shadow__> what do I need to down load to get any movie I want to run on ubuntu
[20:44] <SiDi> !restricted | shadow__
[20:45] <IcemanV9> shadow__: use totem (already installed) to run movie to start with
[20:45] <shadow__> sidi how and where do I get it
[20:45] <glitsj16> lucax: i see ... perhaps the gtk-fix for firefox relies on the removal of firefox-branding, can't say i know for a fact
[20:45] <henux> hi. i have ubuntu 9.04 with encrypted home dir. now i happen to need to rename my username from foo to baz. how would i do this feat?
[20:45] <angry> is there any yahoomessenger client with webcam support?
[20:45] <s0l1dsnak3123> Hey, I have a friend who I am interviewing after he has used ubuntu for 6 months, are there any questions you'd like me to ask him?
[20:45] <boringpackets> angry gyachE
[20:45] <djbatton> добрый день
[20:45] <henux> i tried sudo usermod -m -d /home/baz -l baz foo
[20:45] <Sloshy> angry: on linux, no. I don't think so.
[20:45] <henux> it worked but however next time i logged in, i got the default dummy home dir with a readme file explaining that i needed to do ecryptfs-mount-private, which i did but it didnt work
[20:45] <SiDi> shadow__: by default totem (the video player) will offer you to download the missing codecs. You can also use VLC which supports almost everything
[20:46] <boringpackets> sloshy gyache has all the features, including webcam support
[20:46] <djbatton> по русски тут говорят?
[20:46] <Pici> !ru | djbatton
[20:46] <evanrmurphy> Is this an appropriate channel to ask my question about FireGPG?
[20:46] <henux> the passphrase was asked from me, which i entered, but it said failed
[20:46] <shadow__> ok thanks
[20:46] <boringpackets> additionally, Kopete has webcam support under the yahoo protocol, though chat isnt supported
[20:46] <Sloshy> boringpackets: seriously? /me googles gyache
[20:46] <leigh> i have a problem w/ brasero install...can someone please help?  thanks!
[20:46] <boringpackets> sloshy yes, but it can be difficult to find the right one, i think the latest is 1.1.7x
[20:46] <boringpackets> but the sourceforge page lists 1.0
[20:47] <Sloshy> brb
[20:47] <Lykkefeen> What is the correct way to hide old kernel versions from the grublist when booting?
[20:47] <SiDi> evanrmurphy: maybe #mozilla ? i dont know if they can proviide help for plugins though
[20:47] <Xcell> My exit url jpg says it all...enjoy ubuntu.
[20:47] <evanrmurphy> SiDi: Thanks, I'll give it a shot.
[20:47] <Slart> Lykkefeen: set the "number of kernels to show" variable..
[20:47] <SiDi> evanrmurphy: i personally pick the encrypted text and put it in a file, and then i use gpg --armor nameoffile ~ if it can be of any help
[20:47] <boringpackets> you're in luck too sloshy, because they just implemented gstreamer into gyache for additional support for v4l1/2 devices
[20:47] <Slart> Lykkefeen: I don't really remember what it's called.. but I can't imagine it would be hard to identify if you look through the menu.lst
[20:48] <Sloshy> boringpackets: nice!
[20:48] <Lykkefeen> Slart: Should I set it to 1 or is it using any weird notation? :)
[20:48] <Slart> Lykkefeen: of course you could also just uninstall the older kernels.. unless you really need tham
[20:48] <leigh> i had brasero installed (ubuntu 8.04) and have used it with no problems...i booted my box today and it is not installed anymore, and attempting to install it through repositories fails...can somone help me please?
[20:48] <Slart> Lykkefeen: nothing weird.. 1.. or perhaps 2.. just so you can select an earlier kernel if you really want to
[20:48] <evanrmurphy> SiDi: It looks like #mozilla is an invite-only channel, but I'll try your way.
[20:48] <solexious> How can I change sound settings for amarok in ubuntu?
[20:49] <Slart> Lykkefeen: don't forget to run "sudo update-grub" when you're finished.. or it won't stick
[20:49] <Lykkefeen> Slart: I never use old kernels - do you know how to uninstall them? I like to keep things simple :)
[20:49] <Slart> Lykkefeen: apt-get remove or look in synaptic
[20:49] <SiDi> evanrmurphy: #firefox then sorry ;)
[20:49] <guntbert> s0l1dsnak3123: please ask in #ubuntu-offtopic, this channel here is strictly for support
[20:50] <s0l1dsnak3123> terribly sorry, will do :)
[20:50] <Lykkefeen> Slart: Do you know what I should look/search for @ synaptic?
[20:51] <Slart> Lykkefeen: the kernel packages are called "linux-image
[20:51] <Slart> Lykkefeen: the kernel packages are called linux-image bla bla bla
[20:52] <leigh> i had brasero installed (ubuntu 8.04) and have used it with no problems...i booted my box today and it is not installed anymore, and attempting to install it through repositories fails...can somone help me please?
[20:52] <The-Compiler> Hi there, got these lines for mpd, how can add this device to pulseaudio? http://paste.pocoo.org/show/117478/
[20:52] <Slart> Lykkefeen:  you can click "status" and select "installed".. that will only show installed packages
[20:52] <crowbar> Anyone able to get the jde package working with emacs?  I can't get it to use ant as the jde-build-function.
[20:53] <Lykkefeen> Slart: Thanks for all the advices - just one quick one: is there any risk in deleting them? I never boot using the old kernels anyway...
[20:54] <Lykkefeen> Slart: Oh and should I use complete removal? I probably not going to install old kernels later... :)
[20:54] <Slart> Lykkefeen: nah.. as long as you have a working kernel installed there is no reason to keep the old ones
[20:54] <Slart> Lykkefeen: complete removal is good
[20:54] <IcemanV9> Lykkefeen: you should have one backup kernel in case of the current kernel doesn't work
[20:54] <Slart> Lykkefeen: I don't think it will remove the grub entries if you just remove it normally
[20:55] <evert> should i have audio on a 9.04 live cd? (only having one device visible, playback: null output (pulse)
[20:55] <evert> or is it a sign audio isn't working on that computer with that kernel?
[20:55] <blck> how must I configure fglrx, when I have to grafik accelerator?
[20:56] <ienorand> evert: sound should work on live yes, so there might be a poroblem indication...
[20:56] <pedahzur> I recently upgraded to 9.04, and now when I telnet to another server (in a Konsole session) and run Midnight Commander, all the characters that are supposed to be "lines" are now funny letter a's with ^ over them.  Is this a font or encoding issue?
[20:56] <evert> ienorand: ok, damn, it's not my laptop but i was thinking about reinstall since there is no audio with installed version
[20:57] <pedahzur> excuse me...ssh to another host...not telnet...sigh
[20:58] <ienorand> evert: look in forums/launchpad for your soundcard, see if solutions exist..
[20:58] <dooner> pedahzur: sounds like the emulation on your terminal is set to something odd
[20:58] <dooner> pedahzur: ie not vt100/vt220.  (but that is a  guess... )
[20:58] <evert> ienorand: it's a intel ich8 hd audio controller, afaik quite mainstream
[20:59] <shivraj_> whats the name of the driver for intel in xorg ?
[21:00] <CiPHER_> Can someone PLEASE help me fix an issue with ps2 mouse in jaunty?
[21:00] <KyleK> is it possible to privately mirror just jaunty?
[21:00] <Flannel> shivraj_: xserver-xorg-video-intel
[21:00] <mouseclone> Is there an advanced support channel? I'm trying to get my AD users to be a part of local groups.
[21:00] <Flannel> KyleK: Of course
[21:01] <tdi> hi ive got question about bug reporting. my bluettoth module does not work on jaunty, it is up as device, but scanning does not show any devices around. where should i file this bug?
[21:01] <shivraj_> Flannel: so its just "intel" right ? Im getting nasty colors on an IBM T60 ... should look better
[21:01] <mouseclone> tdi: have you made sure that you bluetooth device that you are looking for is discoverable?
[21:02] <unko> anyone here good with shell commands? i want one that launches expo (from compiz)
[21:02] <shivraj_> and the intel driver is suppost to be one of the best ...
[21:02] <Lykkefeen> When updating my kernel version it somehow removed my windows partition from the grub menu.lst - is there any way to automaticly detecting that partition and adding it back to the menu.lst?
[21:02] <The-Compiler> !ask | unko
[21:02] <leigh> i had brasero installed (ubuntu 8.04) and have used it with no problems...i booted my box today and it is not installed anymore, and attempting to install it through repositories fails...can somone help me please?
[21:02] <genii> KyleK: apt-mirror works well. But depending on which sections of the repository you will mirror, reserve quite a lot of hd space. In the neighbourhood of 35-40Gb
[21:02] <tdi> mouseclone: yes ofc, i tried on seveeral of them, it worked on 8.10
[21:02] <samuele> hi
[21:02] <unko> The-Compiler, ???
[21:02] <Flannel> shivraj_: there's also an -i810 -i740, instead of -intel.
[21:03] <dooner> unko: look for xmacro, I think it might do what you want.
[21:03] <The-Compiler> unko: as you may see that triggered a bot which told you to simply ask.
[21:03] <tdi> mouseclone: maybe i ask the question on ubuntu-bugs
[21:03] <mouseclone> tdi: ok I just wanted to make sure
[21:03] <mouseclone> !bug
[21:03] <unko> The-Compiler, i did ask?
[21:03] <unko> dooner, no, i want a shell command
[21:04] <Flannel> Lykkefeen: If you put it in the wrong place, it will get overwritten.  Make sure you put it either before or after the ## (BEGIN/END) DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNEL lines
[21:04] <pedahzur> dooner: Hmm...Didn't seem to be the issue. Ah well.
[21:04] <mouseclone> tdi: also you can try installing that jaunty backports, I'm not sure if that will help you though
[21:04] <e_fp_e> hi all
[21:04] <tdi> mouseclone: yes i know where, but i am not sure which component causes that, kernel, bluez or what. what is the category for it?
[21:04] <felix_> he is the command" W: Failure trying to run: chroot /esclavo/repository/tmp/hardy-i386 dpkg --force-depends --install /var/cache/apt/archives/base-files_4.0.1ubuntu5_i386.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/base-passwd_3.5.16_i386.deb"
[21:04] <dooner> unko: well xmacroplay can be used to send keystrokes isn't  that what you where trying to do?
[21:04] <The-Compiler> hmm okay, nevermind, unko :D
[21:04] <felix_> lstarnes,  here is the command" W: Failure trying to run: chroot /esclavo/repository/tmp/hardy-i386 dpkg --force-depends --install /var/cache/apt/archives/base-files_4.0.1ubuntu5_i386.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/base-passwd_3.5.16_i386.deb"
[21:04] <unko> The-Compiler, :P
[21:05] <BigMoopies> is the dell version of ubuntu , http://linux.dell.com/files/ubuntu/jaunty/iso-images/ubuntu-9.04-dell-reinstall.iso ?
[21:05] <ienorand> evert: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/354398 maybe?
[21:05] <unko> dooner, not really.. im trying to make a icon that launches a script wich launches the expo plugin. someone gave me the script to launch the widgetlayer but he left now..
[21:06] <BigMoopies> or do I even need the dell version to install on a Dell?
[21:06] <Lykkefeen> Flannel: Just to be sure - I should not put the code for my windows partition inside the DEBIAN AUTOMATIC KERNEL section, right?
[21:06] <IcemanV9> unko: copy that script and modify it to launch expo
[21:06] <ienorand> BigMoopies: almost, they've removed the codecs and other potentially illegal-if-distributed-freely things...
[21:06] <leigh> i have a couple problems, first when i boot my laptop when plugged in it attempts to run disk check and fails almost immediately, saying it's a read only file system...does anyone know what is causing this?
[21:06] <Flannel> Lykkefeen: correct.  Put it before the first one, or after the second one.
[21:07] <BigMoopies> ienorand: would I have better chance of it working with my hardware?
[21:07] <BigMoopies> ienorand: a better chance
[21:07] <unspin_> would someone recommend a good GUI serial interface program (gnome or kde)?
[21:07] <sacarlson> ﻿unko: package xautomation  the command xte  example xte abc    sends abc   xte  Control_L x   sends ctl x
[21:07] <Trev_> huh
[21:07] <Trev_> Where are the nicks at o.o
[21:07] <DreadKnight> Hello! I'm founder of FreezingMoon (www.FreezingMoon.org); we're a non-profit organization developing free open source games (crossplatform). Looking for some bloggers willing to help us a bit by writting an article about us and our projects. Thanks!
[21:08] <guntbert> DreadKnight: not here please
[21:08] <eseven73> spammer!
[21:08] <ienorand> BigMoopies: It might contain some specific versions of drivers or configurations, possibly likelyer to work out of the box, I don't know what the changes are though.
[21:08] <Lykkefeen> !pastebin
[21:08] <BigMoopies> ienorand: I have a NIC that doesn't want to work right since Hardy with the normal disks.
[21:08] <IcemanV9> DreadKnight: you cannot advertise here, but you can in #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:09] <DreadKnight> chill out dudes? trying to solve an issue for ubuntu/linux otherwise it won't be taken seriously for the desktop; i'm not advertising/selling stuff :P
[21:09] <Lykkefeen> Flannel: But what code should I use? Like this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/173226/
[21:09] <leigh> i have a couple problems, first when i boot my laptop when plugged in it attempts to run disk check and fails almost immediately, saying it's a read only file system...does anyone know what is causing this?
[21:09] <BigMoopies> ienorand: could I find out what was changed in the 'module' or 'driver' in hardy , as apposed to Intrepid and Jaunty to revert back to it?
[21:10] <ManDay> Is this Freenode?
[21:10] <eseven73> yep
[21:10] <jrib> ManDay: yes
[21:10] <ManDay> k
[21:10] <ManDay> thx
[21:10] <`brandon`> !perl | Brandon
[21:11] <ManDay> Just beg your pardon for a stupid question but what would I need to play my m3u online stream with the rythmbox player?
[21:11] <BigMoopies> ienorand: or am I wasting my time on the dell disk, along with the orginals ?
[21:11] <guntbert> ManDay: are you using ubuntu?
[21:11] <ienorand> BigMoopies: might possibly be able to do that, I'm not sure how though... you might be able to grab the driver version from dell somehow...
[21:11] <ManDay> yeah, since recently
[21:12] <tones> ManDay: try "amarok", most people prefer t
[21:12] <tones> that
[21:12] <BigMoopies> ienorand: I think the module is e1000e and e1000 that my NIC uses
[21:12] <sacarlson> ﻿BigMoopies:  maybe you can just install the kernel that was running on the version that was working
[21:12] <ManDay> yeah well i ve used amarok while ago but i was trying just to get a long with the default stuff ffor ubuntu
[21:12] <ManDay> but thanks
[21:12] <ManDay> ill use amarok then
[21:12] <BigMoopies> ienorand/sacarlson: http://hardware4linux.info/component/34798/
[21:12] <WebcamWonder> Could someone explain the last 4 lines? http://pastebin.com/fa4caaf0
[21:12] <sevodnya> ManDay: also, you can use totem to do that easily, it's already installed
[21:12] <mouseclone> tdi: kernel/hardware I would assume
[21:12] <BigMoopies> sacarlson: how would  I go about trying that
[21:13] <Flannel> Lykkefeen: that looks about right, if your windows partition is the second one on the first disk.
[21:13] <ManDay> oh well, iirc i purged it :P
[21:13] <MeXTux> I want to install updates to my Ubuntu command line system. How can I do this since don't have a desktop (GUI) ??
[21:13] <ManDay> whats more "lightweigh" totem or amarok?
[21:13] <WebcamWonder> MeXTux: sudo aptitude full-upgrade
[21:13] <felix_> i have a problem running chroot: """root@felix-project:/home/felix/builder# chroot /esclavo/repository/tmp/hardy-i386 dpkg --force-depends --install /var/cache/apt/archives/base-files_4.0.1ubuntu5_i386.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/base-passwd_3.5.16_i386.deb dpkg: `update-rc.d' not found on PATH. dpkg: 1 expected program(s) not found on PATH. NB: root's PATH should usually contain /usr/local/sbin, /usr/sbin and /sbin. root@felix-project:/home/felix/builder#
[21:13] <Flannel> MeXTux: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:13] <mouseclone> anyone know of a way to get an Active Directory authenicated user to be part of the local groups?
[21:14] <sevodnya> ManDay: totem is lighterweight in that it doesn't have music library functionality, it's just a simple media player
[21:14] <MeXTux> which is the difference between dist-upgrade and full-upgrade ?? :)
[21:14] <Dr_Willis> a dist-upgrade is a more.... enthusatic upgrade. :)
[21:14] <WebcamWonder> MeXTux: dist-upgrade is for apt-get, full-upgrade is for aptitude
[21:15] <Lykkefeen> Flannel: Thanks, of course my ubuntu partition has first priority ;-)
[21:15] <aemyr> it upgrades the package and all of it's dependecies
[21:15] <ManDay> allr ight sevodnya thx
[21:15] <Hedge|Hog> anyone that has any theories about SABnzbd+ running great in terminal but not opening in firefox? just get a connection failed message in ff =/ running jaunty
[21:16] <WebcamWonder> MeXTux: It has been the same for historical reasons
[21:16] <Brack10> Hey
[21:16] <sacarlson> ﻿ BigMoopies: see private message
[21:16] <Brack10> how can I tell what kind of wireless card I have for kismet?  hwinfo is wayyyyyy too verbose for me to actually find out what I have
[21:16] <aemyr> Brack10: lsusb; lspci; lshw
[21:16] <elli222> i have found a way of seemlessly toggling metacity compisiting before playing a game, and activating it afterwards...
[21:17] <WebcamWonder> Could someone explain the last 4 lines? http://pastebin.com/fa4caaf0
[21:17] <jorgerosa> hello
[21:17] <Flannel> WebcamWonder: sudo update-grub
[21:17] <ManDay> well well
[21:18] <Brack10> ok so I have an atheros which apparently isn't an acceptable source, but I know my driver will work since it goes into monitor mode no problem.....do I choose orinoco?>
[21:18] <WebcamWonder> Flannel: Well, update-grub ran fine.... would it have symlinked the images properly?
[21:18] <felix_> i have a problem running chroot: """root@felix-project:/home/felix/builder# chroot /esclavo/repository/tmp/hardy-i386 dpkg --force-depends --install /var/cache/apt/archives/base-files_4.0.1ubuntu5_i386.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/base-passwd_3.5.16_i386.deb dpkg: `update-rc.d' not found on PATH. dpkg: 1 expected program(s) not found on PATH. NB: root's PATH should usually contain /usr/local/sbin, /usr/sbin and /sbin. root@felix-project:/home/felix/builder#
[21:18] <WebcamWonder> http://pastebin.com/f4604ed91
[21:18] <Flannel> WebcamWonder: update-grub doesn't really deal with those symlinks.  The next time you install a new kernel image, it'll update those links.
[21:18] <WebcamWonder> Flannel: ^^
[21:18] <sacarlson> ﻿WebcamWonder:  I think it's ok boot it
[21:18] <ManDay> aw man seriously im disappointed
[21:19] <lscott3> Anyone know of Dreamweaver alternatives?
[21:19] <owned> notepad
[21:19] <WebcamWonder> Flannel: Ah alright. And any reason why -11 was considered as no longer needed by apt? It is weird to see kernels being considered "no longer necessary" and automatically removed
[21:19] <Flannel> !html | lscott3
[21:19] <ManDay> i thought id get ubuntu on this laptop because its ready-to-go but it appears to be not that easy
[21:19] <owned> (gedit)
[21:19] <WebcamWonder> lscott3: NvU
[21:19] <hphubert> hi
[21:19] <bnovc> wow, this channel is getting very large. I was curious if Ubuntu had ever discussed having better organization of files (than the common linux layout)... I think it would be a lot better to have /apps/<name>/<all of their files> than /usr/lib/<foo> /usr/bin/<foo> and spread out across /var, etc. and /libs/<foo> and for config files, ~/.config/<rc name> would be vastly better. I know this would be a fairly substantial change and some/many packages would need up
[21:19] <ManDay> should it be a problem to play utube videos?
[21:19] <bnovc> ManDay: no
[21:20] <bnovc> and its youtube
[21:20] <ManDay> becaue after installing the required packages i have sound but video slips
[21:20] <Flannel> bnovc: That discussion would be best had in #ubuntu-offtopic, this channel is solely for support (not discussion), thanks.
[21:20] <bnovc> what do you mean slips?
[21:20] <lscott3> Flannel: !html
[21:20] <usser> bnovc, no it wont be better.
[21:20] <bnovc> Flannel: will do, thanks
[21:20] <lscott3> !html
[21:20] <Pici> !brainstorm | bnovc also:
[21:20] <ManDay> well it just doesnt play properly. i have some frames but then i only have sound
[21:20] <pepperjack> ManDay: install the ubuntu-restricted-extras package. you need to be aware that for legal reasons some packages cannot be installed by default.
[21:20] <hphubert> i want see this comman what type other users
[21:20] <pepperjack> ManDay: the flash package you need specifically is flashplugin-nonfree
[21:20] <bnovc> Pici: thanks
[21:21] <soreme> ciao ragazzi
[21:21] <ManDay> ah ok
[21:21] <soreme> ubuntu non mi rileva le porte COM
[21:21] <ManDay> ill take a look pepperjack thx
[21:21] <soreme> ahem sorry
[21:21] <soreme> wrong channel
[21:21] <soreme> :)
[21:21] <Flannel> WebcamWonder: Well, I'm a bit curious as to why -11 was removed but not -7.  But, the autoremoval of old kernels is (apparently) something that was added recently.  It's to keep them from cluttering and taking up too much room.  I presume it has some rubrick of which were run successfully vs not.
[21:21] <ManDay> does synaptic pckgm automatically remove redundant packages?
[21:21] <francesco_cinier> ma come faccio ad impostare direttamente ubuntu.it quando entro qui?
[21:21] <ManDay> e.g. remove the old flash package if i insstall nonfree?
[21:22] <Pici> francesco_cinier: #ubuntu-it, you've been told this many times.
[21:22] <salvo> ciao
[21:22] <Pici> !it
[21:22] <WebcamWonder> Flannel: Yeah, you are right. -7 is still installed on this PC, and -11 was recommended to be removed... interesting
[21:22] <xiong> noob question -- still having trouble with this -- where do i put applications (that is, those that are not automatically installed by synaptic)? -- /lib? /bin?
[21:23] <Flannel> WebcamWonder: I'm not sure how it makes that decision.  It's an apt configuration thing as far as I'm aware.
[21:23] <sevodnya> xiong: are you compiling this application yourself? if not, how have you obtained it?
[21:23] <register> hi u there
[21:23] <ManDay> im sorry im not able to find "flashplugin-nonfree" with synaptic
[21:23] <DivineOmega> I'm having a problem with Ubuntu 9.04 server on the Fit-PC2. It will stop responding remotely every few minutes until a keyboard key is pressed at which point it will resume as if there was no problem.
[21:23] <felix_> i have a problem running chroot: """root@felix-project:/home/felix/builder# chroot /esclavo/repository/tmp/hardy-i386 dpkg --force-depends --install /var/cache/apt/archives/base-files_4.0.1ubuntu5_i386.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/base-passwd_3.5.16_i386.deb dpkg: `update-rc.d' not found on PATH. dpkg: 1 expected program(s) not found on PATH. NB: root's PATH should usually contain /usr/local/sbin, /usr/sbin and /sbin. root@felix-project:/home/felix/builder#
[21:24] <Guest59229> xiong you can store the probram anywhere but make a link to it and name it the command you want to use to get to it then put it in the bin folder
[21:24] <xiong> i downloaded the client for second life; it wound up on the desktop ('my' desktop?) which is messy and imo, stupid
[21:24] <dirtbag666> hi!
[21:24] <WebcamWonder> Flannel: Alrighty, Thanks a lot!
[21:24] <FloridaGuy> what does this mean.....    ( No CIDSupplement specified )
[21:24] <ManDay> im sorry im not able to find "flashplugin-nonfree" with synaptic
[21:24] <sevodnya> ManDay: you may need to enable the multiverse repositories in System > Administration > Software Sources
[21:25] <ManDay> oh thx
[21:25] <mchelen> xiong, id recommend installing open world viewer repository
[21:25] <DivineOmega> I'm having a problem with Ubuntu 9.04 server on the Fit-PC2. It will stop responding remotely every few minutes until a keyboard key is pressed at which point it will resume as if there was no problem.
[21:25] <ManDay> im new to ubuntu, u know
[21:25] <IcemanV9> xiong: you'll need to modify the preference of Firefox as to where to store the downloaded file(s)
[21:25] <xiong> Guest59229, sorry but 'anywhere' is not, i think, a real good answer -- it seems to me that everything is 'supposed' to be somewhere -- i don't want to do anything too creative
[21:25] <nmvictor> felix_:i dont think you really came out clearly regarding your problem
[21:25] <dirtbag666> In apps such as Inkscape, Okular and Gwenview, there are annoying artifacts when zooming, scrolling or skipping to the next picture. Any ideas?
[21:26] <sevodnya> xiong: is the application in question a binary?
[21:26] <mchelen> xiong, err meant to say open metaverse viewer http://omvviewer.byteme.org.uk/ubuntu_binary.shtml
[21:26] <felix_> nmvictor, im trying to run builder scripts to do a hardy based distro. fails at this point. the command attempted to run is """i have a problem running chroot: """root@felix-project:/home/felix/builder# chroot /esclavo/repository/tmp/hardy-i386 dpkg --force-depends --install /var/cache/apt/archives/base-files_4.0.1ubuntu5_i386.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/base-passwd_3.5.16_i386.deb dpkg: `update-rc.d' not found on PATH. dpkg: 1 expected program(s) not found o
[21:26] <felix_> n PATH. NB: root's PATH should usually contain /usr/local/sbin, /usr/sbin and /sbin. root@felix-project:/home/felix/builder# ""
[21:26] <FloridaGuy> what does this mean.....    ( No CIDSupplement specified )
[21:26] <xiong> okay, mchelen, IcemanV9, maybe good advice but for today, i just have set myself the simple goal of moving this folder off the desktop and into where it 'should' go
[21:27] <sevodnya> FloridaGuy: where do you see this?
[21:27] <mchelen> xiong, it doesn't really matter where the file is
[21:27] <soreme> hi all, my ubuntu does not recognize COM ports (serials), why?
[21:27] <mchelen> as long as your user has access
[21:28] <pedahzur> FloridaGuy: Are you installing fonts?
[21:28] <FloridaGuy> sevodnya, frostwire was giving it to me...installing and uninstalling java...
[21:28] <izzle> soreme, you might need to probe a kernel module ....
[21:28] <xiong> sevodnya, i don't know how an application could be anything other than a binary executable -- i have a CS background but ubuntu is very new to me -- there is an entire folder of stuff downloaded from the second life website -- i have located the executable and made an alias for it in the applications menu, which works -- i just want to move the folder somewhere appropriate
[21:28] <soreme> izzle should i recompile the kernel then?
[21:28] <hphubert> i want see this comman what type other users
[21:28] <ManDay> sevodnya: thank u
[21:28] <izzle> soreme, not if you can just build a module
[21:28] <soreme> ah ok
[21:28] <izzle> soreme, the whole purpose of modules
[21:29] <sevodnya> xiong: what's in the folder?
[21:29] <FloridaGuy> pedahzur, no...just java and frostwire
[21:29] <soreme> sorry i am not very sklilled in technical things
[21:29] <soreme> *skilled
[21:29] <soreme> izzle yes ok
[21:29] <askand> Do I need a lost+found folder on my ext3 drive if only using it as /home?
[21:29] <xiong> mchelen, if it doesn't matter where files are, then can i please toss out this confusing structure and set it up my way? i don't think so -- i think this large number of folders at root is a basic feature of linux, and everything has its place
[21:29] <Flannel> askand: You don't need to create that folder, it's done automatically.
[21:29] <ManDay> sevodnya: Dsl but the problem remains. I installed flashplugin-nonfree via synaptic but the video still lacks
[21:29] <IcemanV9> xiong: you can put it in /usr/local/share if you like
[21:30] <izzle> soreme, i cant help you much because I do not have any com devices... though I recently setup a gameport based joystick and I'm sure the method is similar
[21:30] <mchelen> xiong, im talking only about second life executable, not the rest of the os :)
[21:30] <xiong> Sevodnya, i don't know how to answer that question without going into too much detail
[21:30] <ManDay> do i have to remove another package first or so?
[21:30] <pedahzur> FloridaGuy: I'm pretty sure that's a message about fonts...I'm pretty sure it can be ignored.
[21:30] <sevodnya> ManDay: what kind of graphics card do you have?
[21:30] <ManDay> its an eee pc
[21:30] <izzle> soreme, if you modprobe -l .. you might find there is one already
[21:30] <ManDay> in fact, i d/l the netbook version of ubuntu
[21:30] <soreme> izzle thank you anyone but i think i will try to focus on the italian channel, because it's more easy for me to follow the whole thing
[21:30] <ManDay> admitted, i messed a little with the packages before
[21:31] <soreme> izzle *anyway
[21:31] <soreme> not anyone LOL
[21:31] <ManDay> maybe i should reinstall the whole thing and stop messing  with it
[21:31] <soreme> :)
[21:31] <ManDay> its an intel graphics
[21:31] <xiong> there is actually a usr/local/share/applications folder -- put there?
[21:31] <ManDay> sevodnya:
[21:31] <RamsesII> eee pc = intel 945
[21:31] <ManDay> indeed
[21:31] <nmvictor> does some one know how to use ffmpeg at the terminal to convert .Dat files to .ogg/.avi?
[21:31] <RamsesII> that old one
[21:31] <ManDay> heh what?
[21:31] <ManDay> eee 1000h not THAT old
[21:31] <soreme> izzle I don't get any solution from the italian channel i will return here
[21:31] <soreme> thanks
[21:31] <soreme> *IF I
[21:31] <ajudd4u>  xiong: yes you can
[21:32] <soreme> izzle *IF I
[21:32] <xiong> mchelen, part of my frustration is that i can't tell how much of all this stuff is what -- according to my mindset, all files can be classed as system, application, or user document
[21:32] <Flannel> xiong: You put the binary in /usr/local/bin
[21:32] <sacarlson> ﻿ManDay: I have a eeepc 701 and installed easy-peasy it's a ubuntu dirivitive totaly works
[21:32] <sevodnya> xiong: from the looks of the website, the second life folks wrote it such that it *has* to be in a single folder, contrary to the general style of how linux is usually set up
[21:32] <amaurea> After upgrading to jaunty, the key repeat setting has startet affecting games in wine, which it did not use to do. I can remove the problem by turning off key-repeat, but that makes text editing unbearable, so have have to keep going into the settings to change this. is this a known problem? Is there any solution?
[21:32]  * soreme always forget to type some words LOL
[21:32] <IcemanV9> xiong: yes, usually 3rd pty app resides there
[21:32] <ManDay> i dlike to stiick with ubuntu vaniall for now sacarlson
[21:32] <xiong> okay i will throw the folder there
[21:32] <ManDay> sevodnya: any clue what could make the video hang?
[21:33] <Flannel> xiong: /usr/local/share/applications/ is where menu entries reside I believe.
[21:33] <Xpistos_> Hey
[21:33] <sevodnya> ManDay: it doesn't just lag, it actually gives up and goes black?
[21:33] <ManDay> is there a way to check whether firefox really applies the new flashnonfree or whether it still uses the old flash package?
[21:33] <xiong> that did not work because i don't have permissions
[21:33] <ajudd4u> xiong: then you can make a link to the program and put it in the bin folder that way you can execute it in the terminal
[21:33] <nmvictor> Xpistos_: hey
[21:33] <WebcamWonder> ManDay: about:plugins
[21:33] <kidko> For some reason, my exteranl USB drive isn't recognized when I boot with it plugged in... I have to plug it in *after* logging in for it to be used :( Anybody else have this problem/suggestions?
[21:33] <ManDay> it heavily lags, sevodnya
[21:33] <krispl> wersja 9.04 -przerwy w odtwarzaniu muzy to normalka?
[21:33] <xiong> why in the world would i *want* to do anything in the terminal??
[21:33] <ManDay> ill check that WebcamWonder
[21:33] <IcemanV9> ManDay: in url address, type about:plugins
[21:33] <tomkis_> Hi
[21:33] <Flannel> ajudd4u, xiong: Erm, no?  That's the wrong way to go about doing that.
[21:33] <guntbert> !pl | krispl
[21:34] <nmvictor> tomkis_:hi
[21:34] <ManDay> File name: libswfdecmozilla.so
[21:34] <ajudd4u> xiong: well you need to put it there anyways to make a link on the desktop or the menu because it needs a command
[21:34] <ManDay> Is that whats its meant to be? No?
[21:34] <xiong> ajudd4u, please, you're confusing me
[21:34] <ajudd4u> sorry
[21:34] <Flannel> xiong: What are you installing?
[21:34] <tomkis_> A jezeli rozszerzysz monitor (extended screen) to nie mozna odtwarzac zadnego video? Czy ktos to przerabial
[21:34] <ManDay>     File name: libswfdecmozilla.so   Shockwave Flash 9.0 r999 <--- thats not the nonfree flash is it?
[21:34] <xiong> i have already got it in the applications menu
[21:35] <tomkis_> Ubuntu 9.04
[21:35] <Flannel> tomkis_: Please speak english in this channel, thanks.
[21:35] <xiong> i only want to move the folder off the desktop -- it is sitting there
[21:35] <ajudd4u> xiong: will it boot from the application menu
[21:35] <mchelen> xiong, basically all the stuff in /home/username are the user files, since sl is 3rd party app it might go there as well
[21:35] <kidko> For some reason, my exteranl USB drive isn't recognized when I boot with it plugged in... I have to plug it in *after* logging in for it to be used. Any suggestions?
[21:35] <Flannel> xiong: Put it in ~/bin/
[21:35] <tomkis_> Ok, I just noticed one guy has spoken polish and has problem similar
[21:35] <xiong> mchelen, i don't want it in my own home (username) folder; that's for my documents
[21:36] <WebcamWonder> ManDay: That is non-free. Are you running Hardy?
[21:36] <FloridaGuy> http://pastebin.com/m7c53e960
[21:36] <ManDay> not that i new. whats hardy?
[21:36] <xiong> i'm finding this convo frustrating; i'd prefer to have one answer rather than several which disagree
[21:36] <mchelen> xiong, it used for all user files, including programs which are not installed to the system
[21:36] <nmvictor> kidko: is it listed in /etc/mtab?
[21:36] <Flannel> xiong: What are you installing?
[21:36] <kidko> nmvictor: No.
[21:36] <WebcamWonder> ManDay: What version of Ubuntu are you running? 8.04?
[21:36] <ManDay> 9.04 WebcamWonder
[21:36] <mchelen> xiong, and user config files, you can preface a directoy with a . to keep it hidden
[21:36] <ajudd4u> xiong:  well if you move it off the desktop it might not boot from the applications menu because the command is still pointing to the desktop
[21:36] <nmvictor> kidko: you gotta list it their,
[21:36] <tomkis_> When I extended monitor ( virtual display ) I can't play movies, players close down themselves
[21:36] <ManDay> HA!
[21:36] <ManDay> got it working
[21:37] <ManDay> i just went into synaptic and removed the old flash pck
[21:37] <mchelen> xiong, look where the shortcut is pointing then try moving the directory whever you like, then chance the link
[21:37] <mchelen> *change
[21:37] <felix_> i dont understand what im suppossed to do with this: ""chroot /esclavo/repository/tmp/hardy-i386 dpkg --force-depends --install /var/cache/apt/archives/base-files_4.0.1ubuntu5_i386.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/base-passwd_3.5.16_i386.deb
[21:37] <felix_> dpkg: `update-rc.d' not found on PATH.
[21:37] <felix_> dpkg: 1 expected program(s) not found on PATH. NB: root's PATH should usually contain /usr/local/sbin, /usr/sbin and /sbin.
[21:37] <xiong> ajudd4u, i'm fairly confident that i can fix the application menu issue -- although i think if the link doesn't follow moving of the original, that sucks
[21:37] <ajudd4u> yes
[21:37] <kidko> nmvictor: isn't mtab auto-edited by the system as devices are plugged in and whatnot? (It *is* in /etc/fstab)
[21:37] <felix_> damn
[21:37] <FloodBot1> felix_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:37] <swoody> can anyone help me out? I have 2 Ubuntu virtual machines installed, one of them won't detect eth0, though??
[21:37] <sevodnya> xiong, mchelen: if you look at http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Linux_Viewer , you'll see that they give directions on how you might go about moving it, though I don't know if I agree with their reasoning
[21:38] <johnP> I have 3 questions i will start with the first one.    Desktop icons in Ubuntu are bigger at the same resolution (1024 x 768) than in XP and both systems recognize the same video card and monitor. Why is this? And is there a way to make my icons smaller without changing the resolution?
[21:38] <felix_> i hitted return by error, i'm sure that those folders are in PATH
[21:38] <felix_> i dunno what's wrong
[21:38] <ajudd4u> xiong, you can change the link manually
[21:38] <felix_> or how to debug in depth
[21:38] <Flannel> xiong: It'd be easier if you'd answer the questions so we can better help you.
[21:39] <xiong> okay, look, this is going nowhere -- i thought the whole point of linux is that a fellow could set it up to serve his needs and perhaps even cater to his desired way of working
[21:39] <sevodnya> johnP: Which version of Ubuntu are you running?
[21:39] <johnP> the latest.. 9.04
[21:39] <xiong> flannel, there is too much coming at me -- i don't think that fast, i'm not a multithreader
[21:39] <ajudd4u> xiong: im really sorry, but im really trying to help
[21:39] <Flannel> xiong: It is, and you can.  But you can't expect us to give you an answer if we don't know anything about what you're doing.
[21:39] <xiong> i didn't know if you asked a question
[21:39] <nmvictor> kidko:it gets listed in /etc/fstab once mounted,yes the devices are supposed to be listed in /etc.mtab automatically after plugged in but since in this case it wasnt,i doesnt hurt to list it their yourself
[21:39] <staminna> hey guys where can I find the package for apache2ctl?
[21:39] <Flannel> xiong: What are you trying to install?  You currently have it in a directory on your desktop, what is inside that directory?
[21:40] <Flannel> staminna: dpkg -S `which apache2ctl`
[21:40] <xiong> here is what i want, in plain speech: i believe that all files are system, application, or documents -- i really wish there were only three folders at the file system root -- can i do this? if not, how can i decently tuck all this horrible stuff out of the way?
[21:40] <Raccoon1400> how can I create a caption without a border in openoffice?
[21:40] <ManDay> so, installed totem - does it not appear among the applicatioms?
[21:40] <kidko> nmvictor: Ok, thanks
[21:40] <Severity1> it's like asking your girlfriend if she is a hoar
[21:40] <Raccoon1400> I disabled border in caption>options and it did nothing
[21:40] <nmvictor> staminna: apache2ctl,im not sure if it exists,have you tried synaptic?
[21:40] <xiong> Flannel, i have successfully installed and run second life from the applications menu
[21:41] <pepperjack> Raccoon1400: you just asked this in #archlinux ;p.  id join the openoffice channel for help
[21:41] <deniz> is it possible to remote desktop without a GUI?
[21:41] <Severity1> bravo
[21:41] <xiong> Flannel, there are many many files inside that folder; i have no idea how to summarize them here
[21:41] <Raccoon1400> pepperjack: tried there, no answer, there are 53 people there
[21:41] <Flannel> xiong: You can't.  Nor do you need to.  Don't worry about redesigning the system.   Ah, ok.  Second life.
[21:41] <WebcamWonder> deniz: You can ssh, but remote desktop would be useless without gui
[21:41] <sevodnya> xiong: quoting from the webpage i linked to earlier, this might be able to at least get it out of the way: "On systems where multiple people use Second Life, you may wish to unpack Second Life, then have your root user move it to /opt and link /opt/path-to-Secondlife/secondlife to /usr/games. Any user who has access to play games should be able to run Second Life directly from the command line with secondlife. "
[21:41] <Flannel> xiong: You just extracted them to that folder, and they all work, right?  Didn't have to do anything else?
[21:41] <crispy--> hmm I just kind of broke gnome (x crashes.. wildly... restarts X, and makes vitrual consoles inaccessible) with wine while playing theme hospital and alt+F4'ing the game a couple of times. KDE works though. Any ideas?
[21:41] <xiong> from my POV, inside the second life folder is the second life executable and a bunch of support files -- i consider the folder a unit
[21:41] <Flannel> xiong: Yeah, moving that folder to /opt/ is the correct method.
[21:42] <crispy--> Rebooting wont help
[21:42] <xiong> Flannel, i got good working first time -- this is not a technology issue, it's a way of doing things issue
[21:42] <Flannel> xiong: Right.  And we're saying, the correct place for that folder is /opt/foldername (so, /opt/secondlife or whatever)
[21:43] <skellington> hi, i have a stubborn program. i've been trying to uninstall movie player for the past 30 minutes. i seem to have deleted it but the icon stays on my desktop. im using ubuntu netbook remix so its weird.
[21:43] <ManDay> oh, important question: is it possible to tweak volumne ABOVE 100% ?
[21:43] <deany> Guest17447, only by way of ssh with X forwarding
[21:43] <xiong> Flannel, that is an explicit answer, which is what i want -- the reason i'm frustrated is that i've been getting so much of other comments
[21:43] <deany> Guest17447, ive installed jaunty that way :)
[21:43] <xiong> the answer is: /opt
[21:43] <xiong> great
[21:43] <nmvictor> skellington: how did you uninstall it?
[21:44] <skellington> i used the ad/remove applications application
[21:44] <xiong> it says i don't have permissions to do the move!
[21:44] <xiong> it did not ask for my password; it just refused
[21:44] <Severity1> by golly
[21:44] <Flannel> xiong: that's because we had no idea what you were doing.  Depending on the type of thing you were trying to do, there's a few places you could put it.  ~/bin /usr/local/bin, etc.  *not* /usr/share/applications/ that was an error on the part of that person.
[21:44] <ajudd4u> xiong, the confusing thing is that there are many ways to fix this problem. It is best to only listen to one person at a time and that would be flannel
[21:44] <nmvictor> skellington:what does clicking on that desktop icon result to?
[21:45] <WebcamWonder> ManDay: Depends on the app. Some apps, like mplayer, provide software-based mixing which can go greater than 100% (although I have never been able to get it to work)
[21:45] <Flannel> xiong: You'll need to use sudo if you were doing it in the terminal, sudo mv ~/Desktop/folder /opt/folder
[21:45] <Severity1> xiong: when you installed it did you sudo it or asked you for a password???
[21:45] <skellington> nothing, it doesnt even say "starting movie player"
[21:45] <Guest17447> deany, directvnc?
[21:45] <skellington> but its not really on my desktop, and i dont see an option to delete it
[21:45] <xiong> Flannel, i'm not in terminal; i'm in gnome file browser; what good is a GUI if you can't use it???
[21:46] <nexus10_> Hi. I'd like to install postgresql-7.* on a Hardy machine -- I have universe and multiverse enabled but they only offer pg 8.x. Is there a maintained repo with pg 7.x? How do I find out?
[21:46] <deany> Guest17447, not used it, heard of it..
[21:46] <Severity1> omg
[21:46] <xiong> Severity1, i don't want to ignore you but i think i have all i can do to follow flannel
[21:46] <Flannel> xiong: No one said you couldn't use it.  hit alt-f2, then type "gksu nautilus" then use the window that pops up to do the move.  Be *extremely* careful with that window, and close it as soon as you're done.
[21:46] <Severity1> and the spirit of opensource flutters away
[21:46] <Guest17447> deany, so is there an easy way to use my GUI comp to control a comp that has no GUI? like could u guide me?
[21:46] <johnP> Xinong i didnt see your question as i just got here but when i first downloaded second life it was a working folder also.. but if you want it integrated into your system like windoes does with program files you can get an installable copy from getdeb.com i also wanted to intergrate Cool viewer into my SL viewer and ran into the permissiond problem.. you have to tell nautilus to give you superuser permissions.. then you can copy and paste
[21:46] <johnP>  or drag and drop all you want. see this :  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=256998
[21:46] <skellington> its the netbook launcher. i call it the desktop
[21:46] <skellington> sorry
[21:46] <Shleng> Hey
[21:46] <Shleng> How is everyone. Just testing 9.04 on Eee PC 900A.
[21:46] <Shleng> It seems to be smooth, except for the common audio crackling issue.
[21:47] <xiong> flannel, that sounds nutty to me -- i have the file browser open right in front of me; i'm able to drag the target off the desktop into the folder window (/opt); i can't understand why this would be forbidden me
[21:47] <deany> Guest17447, no GUI on the remote?  well its ssh then..
[21:47] <nmvictor> skellington: well,then you succesfully uninstalled movie player.i don't think desktop icons are a big issue as they are in windows,i understand that uninstalling programs inwindows also removes the desktop icons,in linux,no always.
[21:47] <X-TaZz> Someone here know if there is any powerfull professionnal NFS server ( it needs to be very strong )
[21:47] <X-TaZz> ?
[21:47] <Flannel> xiong: Because you, as a regular user, don't have permission to modify everything on your computer.  It's a security thing.
[21:47] <nmvictor> skellington:*not always
[21:47] <Severity1> because this is security
[21:47] <xiong> i'm about fed up with this root user nonsense -- it's my laptop, i should be able to do what i like
[21:47] <deany> xiong, use windows then
[21:47] <Flannel> xiong: No, that's why windows has so many problems.  The fact that your user can't modify everything is a good thing.
[21:48] <Severity1> aint it good? it even protects itself from you making any unecessary mistakes? ^^
[21:48] <xiong> deany, i have never used windoz and never will
[21:48] <ajudd4u> its not just that
[21:48] <skellington> yeah, but theres no option for me to remove the icon. im getting the worst of both worlds. clutter and not being able to use movie player(not that i want to)
[21:48] <johnP> XIONG see my above post about Second life and go here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=256998
[21:48] <chuck_> nmvictor, sorry it took so long i had to find the link I tried this to convert a couple files then gave up and used avidemux maybe you can figure it out http://ffmpeg.mplayerhq.hu/ffmpeg-doc.html
[21:48] <nmvictor> xiong:the root stuff is the reason your computer has stayed malware and virus free since you installed it,
[21:48] <ajudd4u> it also helps prevent any malware from harming your computer
[21:48] <deany> xiong, theres no need for a root user, you just sudo your way around everything you NEED to do.. simple
[21:48] <Severity1> nautilus allows you to make any changes that normally needs root priviledge
[21:48] <WebcamWonder> Is there a way to run updatedb manually?
[21:48] <ajudd4u> that is why linux it the most secure os
[21:48] <xiong> okay fine -- but whenever i want to do a sysadmin task i'm frustrated or driven to the terminal
[21:48] <Flannel> WebcamWonder: sudo updatedb?
[21:49] <Shleng> Funny how Vista has copies the root administrative prompts with UAC.
[21:49] <Shleng> copied
[21:49] <Flannel> xiong: No, you're not.  I explained to you how to open a GUI with elevated permissions.
[21:49] <WebcamWonder> Flannel: Ahh, didn't know it required sudo privileges. Thanks
[21:49] <xiong> blarg!
[21:49] <Severity1> then ride the leopard like harold and kumar... oh wait i think that was a cheetah
[21:49] <Flannel> xiong: Just be aware, GUIs make it extremely easy to accidentally move/delete/modify/whatever things (accidentally drag the mouse, etc).  So like I said, be *very* careful, and close it as soon as you're finished.
[21:50] <Severity1> yep gksudo nautilus allows you to open a gui file browser with root prividges
[21:50] <johnP> im new to Ubuntu also.. this is my second day.. im sure i will get frustrated always having to do the superuser thing too.. but thats what i got cus i choose linux.
[21:50] <nmvictor> chuck_: avidemux,i have it installed but never used it,it does covert files too,thanks let me try it
[21:50] <ajudd4u> but you only need to use sudo when your changing essential parts of the system
[21:50] <Flannel> johnP, xiong: When you've got a fresh install, it seems like you end up using sudo all the time.  But as time goes by, you'll use it less and less.
[21:51] <Shleng> johnP: That is a good feature.
[21:51] <Severity1> you see... with your normal login you can only edit files and manipulate files freely in the home directory and if you tried manipulating any other stuff it requires you a password or it will give you file permission denial stuff then you do sudo or gksudo nautilus
[21:52] <sysdoc> Has anyone in here tried installing the UbuntuStudio packages over an existing Ubuntu install?
[21:52] <johnP> i know, and i understand why linux does it.. its just its so forien to people whao are not used to it.
[21:52] <eseven73> sudo, gksudo might be a inconvenience for a minute or two, but what's that compared to hours/days even weeks of frustration of having to reinstall, or worse loose data all together
[21:52] <ajudd4u> anyone know where i can find some good conky config files that are pre-done
[21:52] <eseven73> lose*
[21:52] <rtk126> Hello, I'm running Ubuntu server 8.04 and I want to backup a directory to a CDR, is that possible from the command line
[21:52] <rtk126> ?
[21:52] <xiong> flannel and others: maybe it's The Wrong Way To Do It but let me take a little side trip here and explain: i've been a mac os user for over 20 years -- ever since 1984 -- i don't mean the new mac os x (which is a fake mac gui on top of bsd); i mean the real original mac os, now sometimes called 'classic'
[21:52] <Severity1> that way you wont mess up your installation and do the same mistakes wondouse users do to their installation. mess it up and then they complain
[21:52] <nmvictor> chuck_: thanks again,that tutorial could just be what ive been looking for,thanks so much
[21:52] <venom> bonjour
[21:52] <Shleng> Question: How stable is Ext4?
[21:52] <mirak> do you know how to start again device detection ?
[21:52] <Flannel> sysdoc: Not personally (well, recently), but it is doable, yes.  The wiki page explains the packages you need.
[21:52] <Raccoon1400> anyone know how to make a caption in openoffice without a border? I disabled that option in caption>options, but it has no effect
[21:53] <xiong> we do everything in mac os with a gui and we do all sysadmin tasks that way and if you screw it up, you are screwed, so you learn never to screw up sysadmin tasks
[21:53] <chuck_> nmvictor, your welcome
[21:53] <xiong> the notion of all this root vs user login stuff just seems silly to me
[21:53] <Severity1> Shleng: everything else on my box is ext3 except for my home directory, it is on ext4 so far it is sailing smooth and havent done any real benchmarks
[21:53] <ajudd4u> it makes the system more secure
[21:54] <usser> xiong, if you do every sysadmin task on a mac with a gui, you're doing system administration wrong
[21:54] <nmvictor> xiong:you got do with that man,we at linux are in love with it.
[21:54] <Severity1> that's why mac guys are visually stimulated... they easily get excited over not so visually stimulating stuff
[21:54] <xiong> usser, there is *no* other way to do anything on a mac; there is no terminal or command line -- that's it
[21:54] <eseven73> xiong, not everyone has commonsense to be so cautious, especially if they're coming from Windows
[21:54] <rtk126> Hello, I'm running Ubuntu server 8.04 and I want to backup a directory to a CDR, is that possible from the command line?
[21:54] <usser> xiong, on a mac osx?? really?
[21:54] <Severity1> and from mac...
[21:54] <Severity1> uh-hu
[21:54] <rtk126> xiong: That is completly incorrect
[21:55] <Flannel> Alright, we're heading off topic.
[21:55] <nmvictor> Severity1: isnt mac the next thing to windows in terms of .....you know what
[21:55] <xiong> usser, read over what i wrote again -- mac os, not os x
[21:55] <sysdoc> Flannel, I got the idea from the wiki page.. The kernel (rt) that it installs of course breaks x and I can deal with that. But my vmware-server will not allow me to reconfigure the setup for the new kernel. It hangs at shutting down the web service...
[21:55] <Severity1> yep those are for the criPPled
[21:55] <skellington> can i download all of the gstreamer codecs at once somehow?
[21:55] <Severity1> i mean creepled
[21:55] <lscott3> I wish Aptana didnt blow baby chunks on Linux
[21:55] <xiong> i'm not trying to 'sell' mac os here; i'm just explaining why everything you guys say is confusing and weird to my ears
[21:55] <johnP> personaly i think we should have a freeze on all graphical os's and be forced to all use DOS 6.22 :P 9at least ppl wouold learn no to depen on a gui)
[21:55] <sysdoc> Flannel, check that, I can't get the NV 173 driver to play well with that new kernel either
[21:55] <Guest17447> rtk126, maybe you should use backintime (i dont think that's in 8.04's repositories)
[21:55] <Severity1> because this is the true music of OS
[21:56] <Dr_Willis> xiong:  because OS-X is confusing and weird.. and now our Normal talk is confusing :)
[21:56] <Flannel> sysdoc: You don't need to use the -rt kernel just to use studio.
[21:56] <Severity1> have you fixed a car by pressing buttons and pulling drop down menus? NO!
[21:56] <Severity1> you do it with passion
[21:56] <natschil> skellington: try apt-get install gstreamer*
[21:56] <Severity1> you go under the hood
[21:56] <xiong> Dr_Willis, please note: NOT os x; i have been using mac os -- so-called 'classic' -- all these years
[21:56]  * eseven73 gets out the popcorn in preparation for this OS war
[21:56] <Dr_Willis> Severity1:  and duct tape!
[21:56] <Severity1> use the tools of your trade
[21:56] <rtk126> Guest17447: I want to just burn the CD, is that what back in time does?
[21:56] <Dr_Willis> xiong:  thts really really scary
[21:56] <shipitkthx> i have a VPS server thats running gutsy, i can only connect via SSH and i want to upgrade it to jaunty, anyone know how?
[21:57] <Severity1> well it would be nice if your screwdrivers have buttons
[21:57] <sysdoc> Flannel, That is what I was hoping for...
[21:57] <johnP> O.k. question #2 - Is there a quicktime 7 for linux with all its codecs without running the  app under wine or a similar tool?
[21:57] <xiong> Dr_Willis, yah, i'm the last real mac os user left on the planet and i just quit for ubuntu -- this is a really scary switch
[21:57] <eseven73> shipitkthx, Gutsy? Ouch, why is a server/VPS not running a LTS at least?
[21:57] <natschil> shipitkthx: I'd look at what the ubuntu site says about upgrading
[21:57] <Dr_Willis> johnP:   i use mplayer and the codecs to play most every thing ive ever found
[21:57] <natschil> !upgrade |shipitkthx
[21:58] <Severity1> ever since i met LINUX in a cafe i never felt more in control of my computing
[21:58] <shipitkthx> eseven73: the guy im renting from isn't very bright is my only explanation
[21:58] <xiong> point being, there is NO terminal or command line in mac os; there is no protection against doing something evil or stupid; you do all your sysadmin from the same 'seat' as you do anything else; it is a single-user environment always in supervisor mode
[21:58] <natschil> shipitkthx: be sure to use the command line version......if you're upgrading all the way from gutsy, you *should* be ok, if you do it step by step
[21:58] <xiong> so you learn not to make sysadmin mistakes -- or i did, at least
[21:58] <Severity1> that's why if you want to migrate here you should start to learn to use em
[21:59] <Severity1> its not really scary
[21:59] <Severity1> they just removed the visually stimulating images
[21:59] <eseven73> xiong, you're starting to troll, stop
[21:59] <xiong> and so i'm having a real hard time understanding all this linux stuff
[21:59] <skellington> natschil: i dont think it installed anything
[21:59] <shipitkthx> natschil: my problem is do-release-upgrade doesnt work and i cant install it cuz i cant access the repositories
[21:59] <Flannel> xiong: Right.  This is different.  It's safer, etc.  If some program youre using has a vulnerability that allows arbitrary code execution, you're safe from that (at least, your system is), etc.
[21:59] <Severity1> xiong then we are here to help. if you want us to
[21:59] <lscott3> Man the web development tools on Linux are... ahem...
[21:59] <Flannel> Severity1: Mind staying on topic?  thanks
[21:59] <shipitkthx> natschil: and yah i have to do command line because im upgrading over ssh
[21:59] <xiong> eseven73, no, please don't be that way -- i'm not promoting mac, i'm explaining my mindset and why it's difficult for me to understand you guys
[22:00] <johnP> Dr Willis i ask because on second Life i have a tv that plays streamin media, in windiws, only way i can get it to work is if i install quicktime.. on ubuntu, the streaming media is so choppy, its like wacthing a slide show instead of fluent video at 30 frames per second.. i was hoping QT would fix the broblem in ubuntu also.
[22:00] <eseven73> xiong, ok well it's starting to sound like you're trash mouthing Linux
[22:00] <natschil> shipitkthx: yeah, I think ubuntu has a policy of removing repositories for outdates releases....but I think they're still hosted third party somewhere - command line isn't the problem here, the gui would fail too
[22:00] <xiong> eseven73, is that forbidden? are only linux fans permitted?
[22:00] <Severity1> Flannel, sure but will we be on topic if the one who needs help has uhmmmm you know
[22:00] <ajudd4u> xiong, there is a learning curve but after a while you will find it to be the best os around
[22:00] <eseven73> xiong, it's offtopic for this channel
[22:00] <Dr_Willis> johnP:  no idea on secondlife on linux.   I doubt if installing quicktime in wine will affect a game like that.
[22:00] <linuxviewer> I cannot seem to install the required things for drbl.  I dont even think dhcp3-server is installed but when I do a sudo apt-get dhcp3-server it says "invalid operation dhcp3-server"  Any suggestions?
[22:00] <xiong> eseven73, sorry, i'm not going to go down that road -- i'm here because i've made a decision to migrate to ubuntu, i'm sold
[22:00] <Flannel> Severity1: The topic for this channel is Ubuntu support.  Not comments regarding random other things.
[22:01] <nmvictor> xiong:dont worry man,every linux zealot had to start from somewhere,the good thing is once you are hooked,you wont look back
[22:01] <Flannel> natschil, shipitkthx: it's not third party: old-releases.ubuntu.com
[22:01] <johnP> Yes i know.. thats why i asked if there was a regulat quicktime for linux.
[22:01] <shipitkthx> flannel, thank you
[22:01] <Dr_Willis> johnP:  nope. Apple dont do that sort of stuff.
[22:01] <natschil> Flannel: sorry, thought I read that ubuntu didn't maintain old repos
[22:01] <xiong> there is no going back, i don't imagine i'm going back, i'm not here to sell macs, i'm here to bend this new ubuntu laptop into some sort of shape with which i can live
[22:01] <johnP> well shame on Apple.
[22:01] <ajudd4u> johnp, i would just download mplayer or vlc
[22:01] <Severity1> hmmmmmm, how can you give support for a problem if he has the benefactor has issues with the terminal
[22:02] <natschil> skellington: yeah, I think there are some gstreamer plugins that conflict
[22:02] <Severity1> at least we lead him to the right way
[22:02] <johnP> i will try more codecs.. perhaps that will help.
[22:02] <Flannel> natschil: "maintain"-- we keep them around (for archival purposes, the ISOs too, in case you wanted to go see what Warty was like, etc).  But they aren't changed, no updates, etc.
[22:02] <natschil> skellington: I just tried it myself
[22:02] <mirak> does ayone uses a DVB fullfeatured card ?
[22:03] <skellington_> oh
[22:03] <johnP> Question #3 - please answer if you have actually done this, not from what you have read. .. I want to back up my ubuntu as an image file so I can restore at a later time, just like I do in Norton Ghost for windows. But i need to have the ability to restore the image onto a larger hard drive. What good tool should I use for this purpose?
[22:03] <natschil> Flannel: btw, how long is hardy still maintained? I though it was strange that ubuntu would completely get rid of all those repos too, but it seems it isn't the case
[22:03] <skellington_> i think i screwed something up.
[22:03] <xiong> okay, so while you all may think it foolish, reckless, or unnecessary, can i simply login as root, do my file moving in the file browser, then logout as root?
[22:03] <ajudd4u> skellington, whats that
[22:03] <skellington_> well thanks.
[22:03] <mirak> johnP: gparted is doing well
[22:03] <Flannel> natschil: Hardy is LTS.  So it's supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 on the server (as opposed to the non-LTS which is 18 months)
[22:03] <xiong> i don't see any way from the login/logout menu to switch to any other user, let alone root
[22:03] <ajudd4u> xiong, well yes you can
[22:03] <Dr_Willis> xiong:  thats how i normally do it. or use 'sudo mc'
[22:04] <Dracofodder> does rhythmbox or banshee have cd ripping built into it?  I used to use cdjuicer on my old suse system, but after coming ubuntu, I am willing to try alternatives.
[22:04] <Flannel> xiong: Erm... You can.  But, you don't need to.  Just do this: alt-f2 `gksu nautilus`, then cloes the window when you're done.
[22:04] <Dr_Willis> xiong:  the thing to rember is always close out the root terminals/apps as soon as you are done.. just in case
[22:04] <xiong> Dr_Willis, sorry, but i really do intend to avoid terminal
[22:04] <natschil> Flannel: where is the line between the "desktop" packages that ubuntu maintains, and the "server" packages that it doesn't?
[22:04] <Severity1> sudo command allows you to do root priviledged stuff
[22:04] <johnP> yes bu i have read that gparted does no resize partitions.. i would need that cus i wan o reinstall the ubuntu on another drive that is larger and i want to use the whole drive.
[22:04] <Flannel> xiong: That window will be a "root window" and then you'll close it when you're done.
[22:04] <Flannel> xiong: there's no terminal.  Less typing than the root stuff, etc.
[22:04] <mirak> johnP: gparted is doing well, however I think it will not resize the full extended partition, you will have to recreate an extended partition I guess, then copy each partition with copy paste. and but grub back
[22:04] <cdavis> How do you add runtime variables to ntop in ubuntu?
[22:04] <xiong> Flannel, i *really* dislike typing commands on a command line -- i absolutely worship at the feet of the nameless guy back at parc who invented the mouse
[22:05] <Dr_Willis> xiong:  i would Not suggest running nautilus as root.. that can cause..  issues.. learn the terminal and try mc.. its better file manager then the gui ones (well it IS a gui one) just a 2 pane text based gui
[22:05] <dolo> is it possible to have an animated gif on your desktop
[22:05] <ajudd4u> xiong, you would have to go to system/login window/security and check allow local system administrator login
[22:05] <Severity1> terminal is always better
[22:05] <johnP> mirak thats not practicle for me to do.. so it looks like gparted is not for me.
[22:05] <voracious> Hello, i am trying to install reconstructor but the message is here in pastebin
[22:05] <magic_s0urce> Hello :)
[22:05] <pepperjack> dolo: its possible to have an animated desktop on your desktop
[22:05] <Flannel> xiong: Alright.  Well, there's no way for you to log in with root without doing terminal commands, so... no.
[22:05] <Severity1> i only not use it if im feeling lazy
[22:05] <voracious> http://pastebin.com/f4b19913f
[22:05] <ajudd4u> xiong, yes you can
[22:05] <Dr_Willis> xiong:  of course once you get the few rooty things done you need to do.. i rarely ever need to be root any more after the first day of setup
[22:05] <natschil> Flannel: sorry, i mixed up "desktop" and "server" , I meant which packages ("desktop") does ubunu stop maintaing after three years?
[22:05] <Flannel> xiong: There *is* a package you can install which will give you admin nautilus privledges.
[22:05] <shipitkthx> flannel: thank you, updates working again
[22:05] <joemac1> Can anyone tell me why my volume reverts to 0 every time I shut down my computer?
[22:05] <magic_s0urce> do you think it is recomended use in this new ubuntu version ext4 or bether keep whith ext3 to have bether stability?
[22:06] <mirak> johnP: there is not better
[22:06] <dolo> pepperjack: I just wanted a lil animated gif in the corner
[22:06] <Flannel> xiong: but again, as someone else said, you're being extremely stubborn, and are starting to look like a troll.
[22:06] <sattam> hi , could i upgrade gnome in hardy  ?
[22:06] <nmvictor> xiong:root is not really a fully configured account as you think,its more of a virtual,lets just say its like a top level position with unlimited privileges in a linux system which a system admin can acquire and use for system administration.
[22:06] <Brack10> I've been asked to "figure out what driver you're using" in reference to my wireless card.....how might one go about doing that?
[22:06] <johnP> mirak; im also looking at clonezilla.. have you tried it?
[22:07] <pepperjack> Brack10: lsmod lists loaded modules/drivers
[22:07] <Flannel> xiong: typing (or hell, copy/pasting) 13 characters isn't exactly stressful, considering how much typing you're willing to do in IRC
[22:07] <xiong> i hope i haven't stumbled into a well of groupthink -- stubborn is not a bad way to be; i retain clarity of purpose -- i'm not here to sell you on my way of doing or thinking, just looking for advice
[22:07] <vbgunz> xiong: do you have severe carpal tunnel or something worse, arthritis of the fingers?
[22:07] <pepperjack> Brack10: it will be a fairly long list though in ubuntu..
[22:07] <Dr_Willis> i recall years ago setting up the root users 'theme/colors' differently so any gui apps ran by root would be BRIGHT red.. i wonder if thats easially doable now
[22:07] <_Rha7_> joemac1, alsamixer, set the volumes as desired, and alsactl store
[22:07] <mirak> johnP: no, I don't know this one. anyway I think it's acceptable to let you recreate the logical extended volume,
[22:07] <natschil> nmvictor: I wouldn't quite say that, root _is_ an account as well
[22:07] <eseven73> thank god
[22:07] <Severity1> actually even if you sell that no one in here would buy
[22:08] <mirak> johnP: I don't feel increasing proportionnaly is right
[22:08] <Severity1> and he left the building
[22:08] <mirak> johnP: not bad either, but you can tune a bit
[22:08] <vbgunz> I dont think kicking xiong was a wise thing to do
[22:09] <_Rha7_> Can anyone tell me why my volume reverts to 0 every time I shut down my computer? <== Although if you're literal, it is down to 0, cuz, well, when you shut down your computer, it is 'off'
[22:09] <natschil> Dr_Willis: starting  gnome-appearance-settings (I think it's called that) as root should work, and then you can create your red theme...with me, I notice root apps because they don't use the standard gtk theme, which makes them stand out
[22:10] <Dr_Willis> natschil:   i think i tried that once.. and you can change the COLORS but i dont think you can the theme..  but some themes wont let you change colors..
[22:10] <Dr_Willis> natschil:  or could change window decor.. lets try it and see. :)
[22:10] <voracious> hello
[22:10] <joemac1> _Rha7_: thanks , I will see what happen when I reboot. Got some funny messages from the terminal but will see how we go.
[22:10] <voracious> http://pastebin.com/f4b19913f
[22:10] <johnP> I just wanted something as easy as norton ghose where i would not have to use tons of different tools to get the job done.. as it is now, i have to run any clone program from a disk cus the linux kernal cant be cloned while its in uses.. i dont have to worry about this extra step in windows with norton ghost, and since i am alreading addin this extra step in linux, i want to keep the use of lots of other tools out of the job.
[22:11] <natschil> Dr_Willis: I'm sure you can, as you can change everything between two different accounts
[22:11] <nmvictor> natschil: its an account but not fully configure as the other accounts really,have you ever  cd    /root   ,the only directory resent is Desktop.can you access root through gdm?hope you got what i meant
[22:11] <voracious> while installing from repository, i get this message
[22:11] <voracious> could you help me
[22:11] <Dr_Willis> natschil: i was thinkign the borders were still shown by the wm.. but let me try :)
[22:11] <natschil> nmvictor: I get your point, but you *can* access root in gdm, it's turned off in default
[22:11] <johnP> i think its time to shoot another typist./
[22:11] <lysdexia> Hi all. had a fresh install forced upon me (don't ask). My machine has two system fans on the cpus which are meant to cool the entire box. The power supply gets very hot and has failed on me a couple of times before. I had spent a good bit of time configuring the fans to run at a higher speed back when I first installed Hoary.
[22:12] <lysdexia> It was working fine through the last two upgrades.
[22:12] <nmvictor> natschill:ok
[22:12] <natschil> !root |nmvictor
[22:12] <sevodnya> johnP: to change desktop icon size: open any folder, go to Edit > Preferences > Icon View Defaults > Default zoom level
[22:12] <pepperjack> lysdexia: this is an arch document but the use of pwconfig should be compatable with ubuntu and it should be in the repos http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Fan_speed_control
[22:13] <lysdexia> Ah pwconfig.
[22:13] <johnP> Oh cool.. thanks for comming through for my Sevodnya.. this is just my 2nd day with linux.
[22:13] <lysdexia> Half of the battle is remembering the abrvtd-nm.
[22:13] <_Rha7_> lysdexia, Ah confpwig
[22:13] <natschil> Dr_Willis: I think borders are shown by the wm, but if you really wanted to, I'm sure you could somehow setup something like compiz to change all borders of windows run by root to be red :)
[22:13] <lysdexia> Thanks pepperjack.
[22:13] <pepperjack> yep
[22:14] <natschil> nmvictor: in most other linux distros (as far as I know), you can use the root acount normally, but ubuntu does make it a sort of pseudo-account, as it disables its password
[22:14] <krammer_> how can i extract a rar file
[22:14] <Jack_Smirnoff> !rar
[22:15] <Dr_Willis> natschil:  ok ran gksu gnome-appearance-properties     - selected high contrast theme. :)
[22:15] <nmvictor> natshill:i got you bro,long time ago.hope you got me too
[22:15] <Severity1> it's like you nedd to reauthenticate yourself even if you have logged in as root
[22:15] <Dr_Willis> natschil:  dident seem to take effect. :(
[22:16] <Severity1> so that even if you left your machine on for 2 minutes and some saboteur sneaks up and messes your system he will fail unless he knows your sudo password
[22:17] <elli222> any place i can share scripts that i think might be useful?
[22:17] <johnP> i dont need a root password to damage a linux using  the  hammer to the hard drive method. ( im being silly, i;; shut up :-0
[22:18] <natschil> Dr_Willis: not sure whether it makes a difference, but you could try sudo gnome-appearance-properties
[22:18] <elli222> (for linux, in bash)
[22:18] <ralmar> Hey guys, up until a few days ago I used integrate ATI graphics on my pc, but I recently bought an ATI Radeon HD card. I put it in my pc and it worked fine on my main ubuntu user. However on my other limited account the graphics are off. If open firefox or any other program and try to scroll it gets choppy, its not smooth. Any ideas on how to fix it? Thanks
[22:18] <Severity1> well if you wont want to damage it obviously
[22:18] <nmvictor> elli222:to start you off, just pm me the links to them
[22:18] <_Rha7_> elli222, start a blog? use github gists
[22:19] <elli222> don't want a blog, just somthing like gnome-look for scripts...
[22:19] <Dr_Willis> natschil:  yea running them with gksu lets me change them.. but some gnome apps dont like to get ran that way and none are using the new root theme
[22:20] <Dr_Willis> natschil:  i thinkit has somthing to do with some gnome-settings service/deamon that the normaluser is running also. and root user is not running
[22:20] <canhnhat> jkmjhk
[22:21] <sevodnya> Dr_Willis, natschil: it's gnome-settings-daemon, and that's intentional, it's to allow high-contrast themes, etc, to carry over to administrative actions for visually-impaired users, etc
[22:21] <natschil> Dr_Willis: that's strange...for me, as I use kde (shouldn't have mentioned that in #ubuntu :) ) I use the qt gtk engine for gtk apps, but when I run them as root, somehow it isn't used.
[22:21] <Dr_Willis> sevodnya:  yea that makes sence :) but i sware i saw some disrto that let you have different colors.. but that was years ago.
[22:22] <Steve|laptop> I tried upgrading form 8.10 to 9.04 and a number of packages failed to install and now I can't log in graphically. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7286002 is my post about it. Can anyone suggest a way to recover?
[22:22] <Dr_Willis> i just cringe every time someone says do 'gksu nautilus'
[22:22] <pepperjack> i just suggest people alias nautilus="gksudo nautilus"
[22:23] <Flannel> pepperjack: Please don't do that.
[22:23] <pepperjack> jokin
[22:23] <pepperjack> Steve|laptop: have you tried a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade again?
[22:24] <elli222> i think they should alias nautilus --no-desktop to nautilus
[22:24] <Steve|laptop> pepperjack: Yes. I don't have a network connection any more though.
[22:24] <pepperjack> Steve|laptop: you can always do a sudo dpkg-reconfigure * or somesuch
[22:24] <Steve|laptop> pepperjack: That fails.
[22:24] <pepperjack> Steve|laptop: ah
[22:24] <elli222> or have the default action --no-desktop and make --desktop manage the... desktop
[22:25] <pepperjack> Steve|laptop: can you burn a v9 cd or dvd?  you could then add it to sources.list might take care of most of the issue
[22:25] <hittt> Is there any way to shutdown an ubuntu machine using PHP?
[22:25] <Steve|laptop> pepperjack: Yeah, I've got a CD. Add what to the sources.list?
[22:26] <pepperjack> Steve|laptop: it the no internet a function of your ubuntu being broken or do you just not have net access?
[22:26] <mobi-sheep> I'm trying to use Ubuntu Minimal ISO (mini.iso) on a netbook (no CD).  What would be the best way to send iso to the usb?  I recently tried "sudo dd if=mini.iso of=/dev/sdc bs=1M"
[22:26] <_fynn> mobi-sheep: try unetbootin
[22:27] <pepperjack> mobi-sheep: yeah second for unetbootin
[22:27] <aemyr> +1 for unetbootin
[22:27] <mobi-sheep> _fynn, pepperjack, aemyr:  Okay.
[22:27] <sevodnya> !unetbotin | mobi-sheep
[22:27] <hittt> yes unetbootin, for both windows and linux
[22:27] <sevodnya> !unetbootin | mobi-sheep
[22:27] <yaris123456789> is it possible to run TextMate on linux ? or is there a clone of TextMate for linux ?
[22:27] <bonhoffer> is there a way to mount nrg files in ubuntu?
[22:27] <Steve|laptop> pepperjack: I'm pretty sure it's just ubuntu being broken.
[22:27] <pepperjack> Steve|laptop: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list  you should have a cd rom line commented out there you COULD change the info to 9.04 and retry
[22:28] <mobi-sheep> yaris123456789: What is TextMate?
[22:28] <yaris123456789> mobi-sheep: its a IDE on mac
[22:28] <pepperjack> Steve|laptop: then sudo apt-get update and try the dist-upgrade again
[22:28] <sevodnya> yaris123456789: what are you using it to write?
[22:28] <mobi-sheep> yaris123456789: What languages?
[22:28] <rmrfslash> How the power saving capabilities in Ubuntu? Can I choose to turn off desktop effects when power reaches a certain level?
[22:28] <aemyr> yaris123456789: Ide like Eclipse?
[22:29] <pepperjack> Steve|laptop: another option would be to boot into livecd and then mount your root partition to like /mnt then chroot and try the dist-upgrade again
[22:29] <krammer_> how can i extract a rar file not a tar
[22:29] <mrwes> hey j00 lamerz!
[22:29] <elli222> rmr, intresting project...
[22:29] <sevodnya> !rar | krammer_
[22:29] <pepperjack> krammer_: sudo apt-get install unrar-nonfree
[22:29] <mrwes> krammer_, sudo apt-get install unrar
[22:29] <Steve|laptop> pepperjack: I'll try that.
[22:29] <Steve|laptop> the boot the livecd.
[22:29] <krammer_> pepperjack, thanks
[22:29] <bonhoffer> do i have to write a custom script to mount nrg -- is there not a simpler way?
[22:29] <pepperjack> krammer_: or rather not -nonfree since it seems its just unrar now
[22:30] <francesco_cinier> ubuntu.it
[22:30] <frog_> hi, i have an iso, that i can mount but there are no files in it. it is 630 mb . is there any way to repair it or something?
[22:31] <LjL> francesco_cinier: /join #ubuntu-it
[22:31] <LjL> non è difficile. davvero.
[22:31] <rmrfslash> elli222: was that directed to me?
[22:31] <krammer_> pepperjack, how would i use this on the cli
[22:31] <mrwes> krammer_, man unrar
[22:31] <rmrfslash> "rmr: interesting project"
[22:31] <caci> anybody seeing windows not updating sometimes when run under nvidia/compiz?
[22:31] <krammer_> k
[22:31] <pepperjack> krammer_: unrar file.rar
[22:31] <krammer_> ty
[22:32] <REDucka> а тут русские есть ?
[22:32] <elli222> yes
[22:32] <ejv> !russia
[22:32] <REDucka> клева
[22:32] <elli222> if i can grab the values, and learn about loops, i could do exactly that...
[22:33] <Shleng> ?
[22:33] <francesco_cinier> cerco l'effetto simile a mac os quello delle finestre che si aprono insieme se sposto il cursore agli angoli...come si chiama?
[22:33] <melter> i've installed bitstream vera fonts from the ttf-bitstream-vera package, but imagemagick doesn't see them. how do i get imagemagick to see the fonts?
[22:33] <thiebaude1> !it
[22:34] <gamepockets> hello, i have an external hd that xubuntu won't aloow permissions to write to..
[22:34] <mrwes> molte bene!
[22:34] <Decepticon> how can i get wget to download something with multiple threads?
[22:35] <mrwes> gamepockets, what are the permissions of the mount point, and who is it owned by?
[22:35] <gamepockets> hang on, new to lin
[22:35] <LjL> Decepticon: you cannot, i think. you can use other programs like "aria2" or "axel".
[22:35] <Seveas> Decepticon, not.
[22:36] <pepperjack> gamepockets: do you know if it is fat or ntfs?
[22:36] <rmrfslash> eli222: so basically, that functionality don't exist is what you're telling me, and that someone.... perhaps even *me*... might be interested in implementing this.
[22:36] <chetnick> i just came back to my computer, and it looks like it rebooted itself. Which log files should i look to see what caused this?
[22:36] <Decepticon> are any of those cli
[22:36] <gamepockets> owner: root         Access:root              formatted to ext3
[22:36] <rmrfslash> eli222: interesting ;)
[22:36] <LjL> Decepticon: they are all cli.
[22:36] <mrwes> gamepockets, then you need to chown to your username
[22:36] <Decepticon> awesome
[22:36] <mobi-sheep> !i686
[22:36] <Decepticon> which do you recommend first
[22:36] <gamepockets> ???
[22:37] <Decepticon> which is as lightweight and resiliant as wget (bad connection resistant)
[22:37] <mrwes> gamepockets, sudo chown yourusername:yourusername /media/mountpoint
[22:37] <IcemanV9> chetnick: syslog, messages, kern.log
[22:37] <gamepockets> about this mountpoint......            it shows up on the desktop so it that the m.p.?
[22:37] <mobi-sheep> I get a message "This kernel requires an x86-64 CPU, but only detected an i686 CPU.  Unable to boot -- please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU"
[22:37] <chetnick> IcemanV9: thanks
[22:38] <Seveas> chetnick, anything in /var/log :)
[22:38] <LjL> Decepticon: i recommend against axel. aria2c is ok. could also try put.
[22:38] <mobi-sheep> Which is appropriate Ubuntu Minimal for me?  I don't see anything saying i686. :(  --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[22:38] <mrwes> gamepockets, it's most like somewhere like /media/disk or something like that
[22:38] <EmEcks> hello
[22:38] <LjL> Decepticon: sorry, i meant puf.
[22:38] <mrwes> likely*
[22:38] <LjL> mobi-sheep: i386
[22:38] <Seveas> mobi-sheep, i386
[22:38] <Decepticon> LjL, so puf ~= aria2c > axel ?
[22:38] <gamepockets> ah yes media/disk, hang on that sounds like something i ran into with fstab...
[22:39] <Seveas> mobi-sheep, aka '32 bit pc'
[22:39] <LjL> Decepticon: i never tried puf.
[22:39] <Sam18> mobi-sheep: 32-bit PC (x86)
[22:39] <burntresistor> Im teaching myself how to program in python and the book is asking me to load tkinter  , i then downloaded python tk   do i need somthing other than idle to use this  because my graphics module isnt loading
[22:39] <Shleng> When is Moblin 3 coming out?
[22:40] <Seveas> Shleng, ask the moblin people
[22:40] <joaopinto> burntresistor, did you install tk  from the repositories ? You shouldn't need to download from other sources...
[22:41] <EmEcks> hello, I just started using Ubuntu, and a buddy of mine told me the terminal command to search and install programs.  Can someone remind me the commands?
[22:41] <Shleng> Moblin is good.
[22:41] <mikejet> When I start several gnome-terminals, it looks like one process is running all the terminal windows. Is that true?
[22:41] <Shleng> Ubuntu MID uses it .
[22:41] <Shleng> But it lacks software and has bugs
[22:41] <amit> hey guys, how can i uninstall ubuntu
[22:41] <thiebaude1> EmEcks: sudo apt-get install
[22:41] <EmEcks> :3
[22:41] <Steve|laptop> pepperjack: I couldn't get the internet connection to work from the live cd. I assume I have to configure the ip and so forth since it doesn't use dhcp. Looking in /etc/apt/sources.list, I don't see anything about a cd.
[22:41] <Shleng> Has anyone installed the Realtek HD audio drivers to replace the standard ones?
[22:41] <EmEcks> and which one was the search command?
[22:42] <burntresistor> i downloaded the packet python-tk but when i try to import the graphics module i need into idle it says theres a tab error
[22:42] <Shleng> To see if the sound quality improves.
[22:42] <thiebaude1> EmEcks: i dont know, i dont do search by the way of a terminal
[22:42] <EmEcks> ahh,
[22:42] <rrplay> EmEcks: apt-cache search
[22:42] <Mean_Admin> I can't find a guide to using ACLs in conjunction with Samba, anyone know a link to page/forum post ?
[22:42] <EmEcks> oh, thanks.
[22:42] <thiebaude1> !synaptic
[22:43] <mrwes> !apt
[22:43] <mrwes> :)
[22:43] <Guest9346> how can i uninstall ubuntu, can i just insert the windows disc and delete the partition?
[22:43] <thiebaude1> !adept
[22:43] <gamepockets> MRWES, you just solved a problem that has plauged me for a week and a half! I bow to you......
[22:43] <mrwes> gamepockets, nod --- easy peasy brutha
[22:43] <Seveas> Guest9346, yeah, and then restore the boot sector to what windows wants
[22:43] <mobi-sheep> Seveas, Sam18:  Thanks.  That worked.  Although I could sworn I downloaded the same thing.  However I checked the md5sum.  It was entirely different.  >_>
[22:43] <mrwes> gamepockets, Linux 101 :)
[22:43] <gamepockets> your x-mas gift will be there soon!
[22:44] <mrwes> gamepockets, hrmm...a nice Cotes du Rhone would do
[22:45] <Guest9346> bye ubuntu fans, its been fun i just cant handle the compatiblity issues
[22:45] <mrwes> hasta
[22:45] <[1]kaffien> has ubuntu disabled mp3 support?
[22:46] <Seveas> !mp3 | [1]kaffien
[22:46] <mrwes> [1]kaffien, no....
[22:46] <[1]kaffien> seems to be missing the codec for mp3
[22:46] <Dr_Willis> [1]kaffien:  You must insttall  the stuff for mp3
[22:46] <[1]kaffien> i just did a fresh install of jaunty desktop
[22:46] <thiebaude1> !codecs
[22:47] <thiebaude1> my bad
[22:47] <mrwes> [1]kaffien, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras from the terminal
[22:47] <[1]kaffien> good lord
[22:47] <mrwes> MP3 is not considered open source
[22:47] <[1]kaffien> i see
[22:47] <Dr_Willis> [1]kaffien:  that package will get most all the extras you need.
[22:47] <[1]kaffien> so hows about a simple   install non opensource things flag during install
[22:48] <Dr_Willis> [1]kaffien:  dont hold your breath on that.
[22:48] <mrwes> [1]kaffien, you have to make that choice
[22:48] <Dr_Willis> [1]kaffien:  plus there could be legal issues. :)
[22:48] <[1]kaffien> the only time i ever encountered this before was a redhat install
[22:48] <mrwes> [1]kaffien, it's standard with Ubuntu
[22:48] <Dr_Willis> Ubuntu tries to very very very muich take the 'legal high ground'
[22:49] <kandjar> is there a command line which take the WEP password and give you back the Hexadecimal key?
[22:50] <gregor1> I know speech recognition in Linux is not that mature, but what's the easiest program (inaccurate as it may be) to do speech from a headset to a text file?
[22:51] <[1]kaffien> would this also effect my audio playback  when recording?
[22:51] <ameet> what is the function __stack_chk_fail
[22:51] <ameet> is it auto generated ?
[22:52] <sere> i get a black screen on my tv trying to use tvout but monitor works fine...here is my xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu.com/173271/ will someone please help
[22:54] <shipitkthx> ok so im upgrading a server from gutsy to hardy over ssh, and it just got to "starting kernel log daemon" and now its just hanging there, im lost as far as what to do
[22:54] <CoJaBo-Aztec> sere: To do that on mine, I had to restart the computer making sure the output was connected before it would use it
[22:55] <sere> CoJaBo-Aztec: i did that but still no luck....i think im missing something in my xorg.conf
[22:55] <Tecna> Could someone please help me figure out why totem crashes every time i load a video?  Other media players dont do this.
[22:55] <calwig> hi, can anyone here tell me how to do a printjob on ubuntu thru the console?
[22:55] <calwig> to spool a job directly to the printer, ie. pdf, doc, jpg
[22:55] <ikonia> calwig: lp
[22:56] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Tecna: Totem didnt work for me either, have you tried VLC?
[22:56] <calwig> ikonia: really? ok... so easy, but what if i have 2 printers?
[22:56] <IcemanV9> shipitkthx: do you have access to the server? if yes, then do it on the console.
[22:56] <ikonia> calwig: it goes to your default unless you specify, man lp and lpr
[22:56] <calwig> ikonia: thanks for the help, you were quicker to respond! really thanks
[22:56] <calwig> brb
[22:56] <Tecna> CoJaBo-Aztec: not yet. :(
[22:57] <shipitkthx> icemanv9, no i dont, i ctrl-c' out of it, it finished the rest and then gave me a warning saying system may be in an unusable state
[22:57] <chuck_> Tecna, open totem from terminal it should let you know why it crashes
[22:57] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Tecna: VLC has a lot more features, just make sure to get at least the RC if possible (version 0.9.9 is broken)
[22:58] <xisco> hello guys, How can I update a program hosted in bzr ?
[22:58] <IcemanV9> shipitkthx: ah. okay. then, you'll need to check it out to be sure that it can be reboot when it's done.
[22:58] <calwig> ikonia: is there a printstatus screen under the console to see where it went?
[22:58] <Tecna> chuck_: will do
[22:58] <Lyth> Can anyone recommend any Linux sci-fi mmos with decent crafting. Not EVE, it's for accountants.
[22:58] <carpii> try quicken, its a blast
[22:59] <Lyth> I meant EVE is for accountants
[22:59] <carpii> i knoew, im just teasing :(
[22:59] <Lyth> Ah
[22:59] <Lyth> EVE is just spreadsheets in space.
[22:59] <carpii> yeah i played for a while, it was a bit uh, tedious
[22:59] <Severity1>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
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[22:59] <Tecna> chuck_: 'BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)'.
[22:59] <FloodBot1> Severity1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:59] <Severity1>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
[23:00] <Lyth> Yeah, and if you complain they scold you for impatience
[23:00] <Tecna> chuck_: it might be because I forgot to activate swap
[23:00] <carpii> why dont you have a look at winehw, see if any windows games work under wine/crossover
[23:00] <carpii> or check playdeb.com or getdeb.com
[23:00] <carpii> they have some nice stuff once in a while
[23:00] <[1]kaffien> does ubuntu / gnome have a konsole / kate equivelant?
[23:00] <houndogg> Hi, is there someone who could help my out with pptpd
[23:01] <Idespnnr> [1]kaffien: gnome-terminal
[23:01] <WebcamWonder> [1]kaffien: gnome-terminal: console, gedit = kate
[23:01] <Idespnnr> [1]kaffien: gedit by default(but i prefer medit)
[23:01] <Tecna> chuck_: just activated swap, and it's still not working.
[23:01] <losher> ameet: lots of google hits for __stack_chk_fail. Try compiling with -fno-stack-protector
[23:02] <Idespnnr> houndogg: pptp server or client?
[23:02] <Severity1> sorry bout that i fell asleep... on my keypboard..
[23:02] <timClicks> hi all, is anyone from canonical here? the logo here looks somewhat suspicious http://www.hmrgroup.co.uk/
[23:02] <Severity1> is that the vm.swappiness stuff
[23:02] <[1]kaffien> gedit doesnt = kate
[23:02] <nfrs> I've got a weird situation with sshfs and fstab. will be grateful for any help. I've configured the mounting via the fstab. all seems to be well, except that my regular user can't access anything below the mount point (permission denied). this is weird, because "sudo stat" shows my user/group as owner
[23:02] <[1]kaffien> kate has a terminal built into it
[23:03] <Idespnnr> timClicks: wow....
[23:03] <Idespnnr> that is funny
[23:03] <ericjoseph> hey guys... is it possible to boot off an external HD (live cd) and install another version of ubuntu from that environment?
[23:03] <Severity1> wow that's logo thief
[23:03] <[1]kaffien> or is conical a logo thief
[23:03] <Flannel> timClicks: http://www.ubuntu.com/contact/trademarkviolation
[23:03] <Idespnnr> ericjoseph: yes, use unetbootin
[23:03] <timClicks> cheers - i was looking for something like like
[23:03] <Severity1> no!
[23:04] <Severity1> that logo is supposed to be authentic
[23:04] <Severity1> even the color is almost the same just a bit lighter
[23:04] <mikejet> "lp file.pdf" sends the document to my default HP network printer. How do I make the "lp" commandline tool print on both sides of the page? This is to help the environment & global warming.
[23:04] <ericjoseph> unetbootin is what i used to install the live cd to the external HD... i can use it to install ubuntu (non live cd version) to the local hd?
[23:05] <[1]kaffien> i might confuse that with ubuntu
[23:05] <[1]kaffien> hehe
[23:05] <Severity1> that site says Copyright © 2009. All rights reserved. what does it mmean
[23:05] <chuck_> Tecna, do not know to much about totem it does sound like it is having a problem loading it into memory
[23:05] <Brack10> ericjoseph: No, that's not what it's for
[23:05] <zack`> mikejet: type man lp
[23:05] <WebcamWonder> mikejet: As per man lp, there are 2 -o sides=two-sided* options
[23:05] <yaris123456789>  does wget -r, store the links it visited in memory or does it manually check whether the link was downlaoded on the harddrive ?
[23:05] <Idespnnr> ericjoseph: I use unetbootin to install the ubuntu iso to a usb, i then boot off usb to install ubuntu to a computer from a live ubuntu
[23:05] <Severity1> that site is ruining my beliefs
[23:05] <Brack10> ericjoseph: oh nevermind...yes you can
[23:05] <Severity1> im breakingdown
[23:06] <ericjoseph> ok i'll give it a go :P  thanks guys
[23:06] <yaris123456789> in my perl script how do i check whether a command was successful ?
[23:06] <houndogg> Idespnnr server
[23:06] <zack`> mikejet: youre looking for one of the lp -o options
[23:06] <mikejet> WebcamWonder, Thanks. The Earth thanks you too.
[23:06] <xirrin> Here's probably a pretty easy question for someone: I can't seem to open .deb files. I get an error saying the associated helper application does not exsist. Its the GDebi Package Installer (which is selected on the "Open With" dialog) and shows through Synaptec that is is installed and working fine. Any ideas?
[23:07]  * zack` feels undervalued
[23:07] <Idespnnr> timClicks: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1159916
[23:07] <Severity1> rei nstall it
[23:07] <pvvni> xirrin: can you install them via a terminal?
[23:08] <pvvni> xirrin: dpkg -i filename
[23:08] <xirrin> pvvni: Let me try quick
[23:10] <xirrin> pvvni: Yes, it installed fine if I do it that way.
[23:10]  * IceGuest_75[A] is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 5 minutes
[23:10] <Flannel> !away > IceGuest_75[A]
[23:11] <Tecna> vlc keeps crashing every time I resize the window
[23:12] <chuck_> Tecna, What video card do you have
[23:12] <nfrs> I've got a weird situation with sshfs and fstab. will be grateful for any help. I've configured the mounting via the fstab. all seems to be well, except that my regular user can't access anything below the mount point (permission denied). this is weird, because "sudo stat" shows my user/group as owner
[23:12] <rimvis> write sudo su and you be administrator
[23:13] <Tecna> chuck_: ye olde Nvidia Geforce 2 MX400.  It's never given me trouble until today.
[23:13] <xirrin> pvvni: Any idea why it wouldn't do it through the .deb download link from my browser? This is a fresh install of ubuntu 9.04
[23:13] <Tecna> wait
[23:13] <``myforwik> Hello, I am using NVIDIA Accelerated driver version 180 on Ubuntu 9.4 32bit, I have a 9800GT video card. The Nvidia X Server settings do not show any resolutions higher than 1024x768, I would like to use 1600x1200 and 1280x1024. Does anyone know what to do?
[23:13] <Tecna> I have a different monitor today
[23:13] <cemunal> hi all
[23:13] <cemunal> how can i use mesa with ubuntu?
[23:14] <soreau> cemunal: What do you mean?
[23:14] <rimvis> is people who try to instal eucalyptus???
[23:14] <xisco> what is the command to update a program with bzr ?
[23:14] <Darxus> What's up with the gutsy sources?  I'm getting 404's after rebuilding my /etc/apt/sources.list with system/administration/software sources.
[23:14] <miranda> se habla español en este canal?
[23:14] <mobi-sheep> !gutsy
[23:14] <cemunal> soreau, mesa dirvers
[23:14] <Flannel> Darxus: Gutsy is EOL.  It's no longer supported, it's repos have been taken offline.  You should upgrade to Hardy.
[23:14] <cemunal> *drivers
[23:14] <mobi-sheep> Darxus: There you go.
[23:14] <Flannel> !es | Guest57478
[23:15] <Ursinha> !es | Guest57478
[23:15] <Darxus> Flannel: Thanks.
[23:15] <soreau> cemunal: Which card model is this?
[23:15] <Darxus> Flannel: I thought that might be the case, but I'm surprised I didn't see anything that actually said that.
[23:15] <calwig> ikonia: how can i check the print status on the console_
[23:15] <calwig> !lp
[23:15] <[1]kaffien> how do you activate the cube in compiz?
[23:15] <cemunal> soreau, nvidia RIVA TNT2
[23:15] <Dominoeffekt> what do i type in the terminal to get in to root?
[23:15] <Dominoeffekt> username root?
[23:15] <calwig> !print
[23:15] <chetnick> any program that would display log files directly on desktop?
[23:15] <mrwes> !root
[23:15] <Flannel> Dominoeffekt: use sudo instead:  sudo [command]
[23:15] <``myforwik> !nvidia
[23:16] <mrwes> !compiz | [1]kaffien
[23:17] <``myforwik> Hello, I am using NVIDIA Accelerated driver version 180 on Ubuntu 9.4 32bit, I have a 9800GT video card. The Nvidia X Server settings do not show any resolutions higher than 1024x768, I would like to use 1600x1200 and 1280x1024. Does anyone know what to do?
[23:17] <Darxus> http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/gutsy/  1st google hit for ubuntu gutsy, that page should say it's EOLed.
[23:17] <Flannel> Dominoeffekt: What command are you trying to perform?
[23:17] <soreau> cemunal: I'm not certain, but i think that card is very limited in it's capabilities. You /var/log/Xorg.0.log file should have more details
[23:17] <aemyr> Has somebody tried compilling the 2.6.30 kernel and using it in jaunty? I'm doing this now
[23:17] <Mip5> Hey Gang - I can't get my system to complete the boot after a raid1 install (/ on md0). Ideas?
[23:18] <dtchen> aemyr: instead of the mainline builds available at http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[23:18] <dtchen> aemyr: ?
[23:18] <yaris123456789> is it possible to make wget output file so that the URL is retained somehow and no sub directories are created ?
[23:18] <kartofelek> Hi all
[23:18] <Dominoeffekt> Flannel: im tryint to install gParted.   but i have to have root accses to do that
[23:18] <cemunal> soreau, nvidia RIVA TNT2
[23:18] <Flannel> Dominoeffekt: sudo apt-get install gparted
[23:19] <IchLiebeSarah> >.>
[23:19] <jac0b> does anyone have a problem with jaunty not turning off your monitor for power saving mode?
[23:19] <aemyr> dtchen: didn't notice them xD
[23:19] <Dominoeffekt> Flannel: i tryed that. I get a pop up that ses that i need to log in to root
[23:19] <jac0b> instead of my monitor going off it blinks "no signal"
[23:19] <pvvni> xirrin: no clue.
[23:20] <[1]kaffien> i know how to install it i just don't know how to  'activate'  / use it
[23:20]  * Tecna growls
[23:20] <Dominoeffekt> Flannel: Oh sry. its not when im installing it. Its when im trying to run the Gparted
[23:20] <NativeAngels> how do i set persions so a user can upload and download to there foles ie /home/user and /home/user/public_html
[23:20] <mobi-sheep> jac0b: Sounds like Jaunty is doing fine.  I think you're looking for blank screensaver?
[23:20] <pvvni> xirrin: the deb gui installer is probably borked somehow
[23:20] <zimbres> VillaVampiria, liebst du nicht mehr Sahra?
[23:20] <cemunal> does anybody know how to use mesa drivers with nvidia riva tnt2 under ubuntu 9.04?
[23:20] <pvvni> But I'm really not familiar with the GUI side of things
[23:21] <Dominoeffekt> Flannel: Root privileges are required for running GParted
[23:21] <nrg> hello
[23:21] <Flannel> Dominoeffekt: Just hit the menu item, it should ask for your password.
[23:21] <jac0b> no I have the space screensaver but when it is supposed to turn off the monitor it blinks no signal and doesn't turn off
[23:21] <pvvni> nrg: whats up
[23:21] <Flannel> Dominoeffekt: If not, use this: gksu gparted
[23:21] <jac0b> it worked in hardy
[23:22] <``myforwik> Hello, I am using NVIDIA Accelerated driver version 180 on Ubuntu 9.04 32bit, I have a 9800GT video card. The Nvidia X Server settings do not show any resolutions higher than 1024x768, I would like to use 1600x1200 and 1280x1024. Does anyone know what to do?
[23:22] <Dominoeffekt> Flannel:  thaks mate
[23:22] <nrg> i have a question about gnome-volume-manager on hardy
[23:22] <Dominoeffekt> Flannel:  Do u know anything about Gparted?
[23:22] <Flannel> Dominoeffekt: you'd be better off asking your real question to the channel.  Someone will know the answer.
[23:22] <jac0b> sometimes it will turn off the monitor and sometimes it doesn't
[23:23] <nrg> when i start g-v-m, it exits immediately with a exit code of '0'
[23:23] <Dominoeffekt> Flannel:  ok sry :P
[23:23] <Darxus> "It is impossible to install or remove any software. Please use the package manager "Synaptic" or run "sudo apt-get install -f" in a terminal to fix this issue at first."  Yeah that should make my upgrade interesting.
[23:23] <jaturawit> :q
[23:23] <jaturawit> exit
[23:23] <nrg> i am trying to run it with the '-n' switch to keep it in the foreground
[23:23] <mobi-sheep> jac0b: Jaunty can't turn off the monitor.  That's physical hardware.  Monitor blinks no signal because Jaunty did what it should, standby, I suppose.
[23:24] <jac0b> well how come it would go off in hardy but in jaunty it just blinks no signal
[23:24] <Dominoeffekt> Im wondering about Gparted. I have Dual boot Windows and Ubuntu. I need to resize the partitions.
[23:24] <Dominoeffekt> is it safe to "take" space from the windows partition to the ubuntu partition? I do not want to damage my windows
[23:24] <dylan_> what is the name of xfce settings manager program? I can't log into xfce for some reason it keeps crashing and preventing log on, so in kde I was going to try to open the xfce settings and change something
[23:25] <mobi-sheep> Jaunty don't blink "no signal" -- That's your monitor.  It was designed to do that.
[23:25] <Darxus> So what's the procedure for upgrading from a gutsy system with broken packages?
[23:25] <Radic> what is the best irc (text mode) in ubuntu ?
[23:25] <Darxus> Radic: irssi.
[23:25] <mrwes> !best
[23:26] <Radic> thx darxus
[23:26] <calwig> ikonia: lp worked super good, thanks gotta run
[23:26] <Strife89> Has anyone here heard about the bug where Ubuntu won't detect a Rockbox device?
[23:26] <Flannel> Darxus: switch to old-releases.ubuntu.com, then do a full update (to be up to date with Gutsy) then upgrade.
[23:26] <Flannel> Darxus: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades
[23:26] <Strife89> I'm experiencing that very issue, see.
[23:27] <robin0800> Strife89: YEs
[23:27] <Strife89> robin0800: Do you happen to know the workaround?
[23:28] <robin0800> Strife89: Its gnome yes use kde
[23:28] <whoitishhello> hello
[23:29] <whoitishhello> Anyone know a simple way of disable internet access!
[23:29] <jeiworth> sudo ifconfig eth0 down
[23:29] <jeiworth> ;oP
[23:29] <Strife89> whoitishhello: Disabling it?
[23:29] <Enissay> How can i make advanced search in Transmission??
[23:30] <otofrank> Hello tout le monde !!!
[23:30] <whoitishhello> yes for a kids account
[23:30] <Strife89> Right-click on the network icon near the clock and uncheck "Enable Networking".
[23:30] <whoitishhello> Do that before he logs on
[23:31] <BigMoopies> What stops him from redoing it ?
[23:31] <whoitishhello> exactly!
[23:31] <jeiworth> whoitishhello: do you want him/her to have access to the lan or completely turn off networking?
[23:32] <whoitishhello> No lan or internet access
[23:32] <whoitishhello> just preinstalled programs
[23:33] <whoitishhello> also looking for a good writing program for a eight year old!
[23:33] <losher> Dominoeffekt: in principle it is safe to resize partitions, but there's no substitute for having a full backup in case something goes wrong
[23:33] <mobi-sheep> whoitishhello: Something for you?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=843510
[23:33] <Darxus> I copied a jaunty sources.list over the one I had for gutsy and am running aptitude install to fix the broken packages.  It's doing all kinds of crazy stuff.  :(
[23:34] <jeiworth> whoitishhello: hmm not sure, might be enough to remove him from dialup, or does that just  work for modem connections?
[23:34] <WebcamWonder> Darxus: With the jaunty lists? That is *bad*
[23:34] <whoitishhello> Behind a router
[23:34] <Darxus> WebcamWonder: What are my options?  Nothing else will work since there are no gutsy archives online anymore.
[23:34] <whoitishhello> Will bookmark link thanks!
[23:35] <WebcamWonder> Darxus: What were the broken packages?
[23:35] <SoylentYellow> Hi all.
[23:35] <SoylentYellow> What are some ways of wiping disks before selling or giving them away (under linux)? I hear just using dd is fine. True?
[23:35] <Darxus> WebcamWonder: Kernel stuff.
[23:35] <Darxus> Newer than what I'm running.
[23:36] <Darxus> I tried removing them.
[23:36] <mobi-sheep> SoylentYellow: True. (IMO).
[23:36] <WebcamWonder> SoylentYellow: True, unless you are selling it to DoD, for which you might want to zero 40 times
[23:36] <jeiworth> SoylentYellow: yes
[23:36] <manouel_cou_2_tr> hi$
[23:36] <myk_robinson> anyone here sucessfully used PDFShuffler? Wonder if I am just having a Jaunty issue. I can view and edit pages, but not export. Program just sits there
[23:36] <gmathews> Hi I am on intrepid, and i would like to upgrade to jaunty. However i would like to upgrade from the server from south africa, but everytime i try to run the upgrade to 9.04 option the server in software sources list keeps changing to the main server. Any ideas?
[23:37] <SoylentYellow> Ok thanks for the info.
[23:37] <SoylentYellow> I'm selling several drives on ebay so I needed some info.
[23:37] <jeiworth> gmathews: probly have to change your location settings to south africa
[23:37] <WebcamWonder> Darxus: hmm... But be sure to run the upgrade scripts after, and do a "real" upgrade
[23:37] <whoitishhello> Guess I could unplug the cat5 cable...   quick and easy untill he figures it out.  haha   Thanks everyone have to run
[23:37] <yaris123456789> is it possible to make wget output file so that the URL is retained somehow and no sub directories are created ?
[23:37] <Darxus> WebcamWonder: That's my plan, thanks.
[23:38] <ghindo> How usable is Gnash at this point?  Is it at the point where it can replace Flash?
[23:38] <Darxus> yaris123456789: Yes :P
[23:38] <nfrs> I've got a weird situation with sshfs and fstab. will be grateful for any help. I've configured the mounting via the fstab. all seems to be well, except that my regular user can't access anything below the mount point (permission denied). this is weird, because "sudo stat" shows my user/group as owner
[23:39] <Darxus> E: Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on libc6
[23:39] <Darxus> A package failed to install.  Trying to recover:
[23:39] <Darxus> Woohoo!
[23:39] <gmathews> jeiworth: where do i do that?
[23:39] <shipitkthx> is it possible to install Gnome on VPS ubuntu server and access it via remote desktop?
[23:39] <ohayoo> ?DCC SEND "ff???f?ð‘¹ð‘°ð‘·ð‘³ð‘¶ð‘³ð‘ºð‘¼ð‘·ð‘®ð‘¼ð’€ð‘º" 0 0
[23:39] <mobi-sheep> nfrs: You might want to try #ubuntu-server too
[23:39] <nfrs> mobi-sheep: thanks
[23:39] <yaris123456789> Darxus: can you tell me how ?? i've been trying to figure ito ut
[23:40] <yaris123456789> Darxus: i need it for to out put for wget -r,   www.site.com_somedir_here_index.html.txt
[23:41] <jeiworth> gmathews: hmm i am running kde and i dont remember where you change that in gnome, i suppose system -> administration is worth a look
[23:41] <jeiworth> or settings
[23:42] <Darxus> yaris123456789: I don't know how.  I'm thinking somethinig like:  echo $url > output ; wget -O output... although that might overwrite the url.
[23:43] <carlito> hi, how can i read C:/ubuntu/disks/root.disk
[23:43] <DICK-GAYLORD> ?DCC SEND "ff???f?" 0 0 0
[23:43] <carlito> or /host/ubuntu/disks/root.disk?
[23:44] <nameless`> hi
[23:45] <Darxus>  aptitude install libstdc++6
[23:45] <Darxus> seems to have fixed
[23:45] <Darxus> E: Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on libc6
[23:46] <wasutton3> i am looking to set up a vpn for my mother and my iphones using our ubuntu home server, what software would you reccomend?
[23:47] <Darxus> Sweet!  aptitude install now runs cleanly without trying to do anything.
[23:47] <Darxus> Now to try the update...
[23:48] <jeiworth> wasutton3: you can try openvpn or freeswan
[23:48] <wasutton3> jeiworth: i tried freeswan but it doesnt appear to want to install
[23:49] <jeiworth> wasutton3: hmm iirc freeswan is pretty dead, have you tried openswan?
[23:50] <wasutton3> jeiworth: that causes all sorts of problems for me
[23:50] <sammmmm> does anyone know a good program for converting .aiff files to .mp3?
[23:50] <jeiworth> wasutton3: ah yes, openswan is also oficially availiable through ubuntu repos
[23:50] <wasutton3> jeiworth: even when installing from the repos
[23:51] <jeiworth> wasutton3: hmm i read various articles that ipsec is pretty complex and difficult to implement correctly in linux, especially if you dont have any experience with vpn  networks
[23:51] <wasutton3> yea
[23:51] <_Rha7_> jeiworth, and even if you do have exp.
[23:52] <usser> jeiworth, openvpn setup is pretty straightforward
[23:52] <jeiworth> myself i'm running openvpn, which runs great actually, only thing is that the  client users need admin rights on all operating systems, linux, windows and  mac due to networking issues
[23:52] <jeiworth> _Rha7_: hehe
[23:53] <NeutroN--> hello guys, has anyone here used ubuntu with the Radeon HD 4830 512MB video card? I have a problem that when I boot ubuntu, the screen goes totally pixelated and unreadable. It worked with the default drivers, however those drivers weren't good for games, so I went and added ATI catalyst control center to see if that would solve the problem, but once I rebooted it became that way, :\
[23:53] <Darxus> Meh, it would've been nice if I had read I can only upgrade to jaunty from Hardy.
[23:53] <jeiworth> never tried ipsec since i never found a good howto to start off with so i stuck with openvpn, have done 3 installations so far and its ok, i am missing a (web)gui for managing and generating keys and certificates, though
[23:53] <NeutroN--> so my question is, how do I get rid of the stuff I installed from the shell?
[23:54] <EdwardXp> that's alot of names to load up in this ubuntu channel :)
[23:54] <EdwardXp> im on irrsi and looks like a virus when i come in here..
[23:54] <DVA5912> Wow .10 looks great
[23:55] <Darxus> NeutroN--: Re-run the install script and see if it has an uninstall option.
[23:55] <mikejet> DVA5912, What, specifically?
[23:55] <Darxus> NeutroN--: If not, contact the people you got it from.
[23:55] <Flannel> !away > NavadeHo
[23:55] <DVA5912> Is it possible to run a virtual machine to use an existing partition on the hd to run windows?
[23:55] <jeiworth> wasutton3: if you just need 1 client connection you can check out openvpn's upcoming product at beta.openvpn.net it comes with gui and everything but just 5 connections
[23:55] <DVA5912> mikejet: its new backdrop.
[23:56] <EdwardXp> How do you perform a windows backup and restore ? using windows backup and restore center?
[23:56] <EdwardXp> lol
[23:56] <Whitor> Hi, anyone know of a program to let me see my ubuntu desktop from another location? like vnc, but what's on my local display ... ?
[23:56] <Whitor> like how VNC works for windows
[23:56] <EdwardXp> ??? what other program are you talking aboiut?
[23:57] <eztwr233> Whitor: x11vnc
[23:57] <EdwardXp> Whitor:  i have no idea, it's only one progra, like vnc
[23:57] <NeutroN--> darxus: I used the add/remove GUI to install it, which is unaccessible now, so I wouldn't know how to do that :(
[23:57] <DVA5912> ! karmik
[23:57] <DVA5912> !karmic
[23:57] <Whitor> vnc acts differently in ubuntu ... it gives me a logon screen and a different desktop ...
[23:57] <usser> Whitor, x11vnc
[23:57] <Whitor> Thanks a lot  eztwr233 and usser
[23:58] <jeiworth> Whitor: in applications -> internet you should have a remote desktop sharing program iirc
[23:58] <Dorest0rm> Is there a way to install Ubuntu as a dual boot from a USB device, since my CD drives are broken?
[23:58] <Whitor> jeiworth, There is a remote desktop viewer ... but not sharer
[23:58] <Whitor> trying x11vnc
[23:59] <EdwardXp> x11vnc so it's mirrored all the time like screenx ?
[23:59] <EdwardXp> i don't get it
[23:59] <jeiworth> Whitor: hmm strange, i thought ubuntu came with one as well, kubuntu sure does.. maybe its located somewhere else
[23:59] <Whitor> I don't know about screenx
[23:59] <EdwardXp> screenx is a terminal based viewer via ssh to another host