| Armageddon | guys, what are the system requirements for xubuntu ? | 00:18 |
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| charlie-tca | 400mhz cpu with 128mb ram are absolute minimum. 256 mb ram preferred | 00:19 |
| charlie-tca | 128mb makes the gui real slow and hard to use | 00:19 |
| Armageddon | how about a 1.4GHz CPU and 128MB RAM ? | 00:20 |
| charlie-tca | still gonna run slow | 00:20 |
| charlie-tca | ram makes a difference | 00:20 |
| Armageddon | a big hardrive he can use a lot of swap ! | 00:20 |
| Armageddon | would that help ? | 00:23 |
| charlie-tca | It will help with freezes, but I don't know how much it will help if running more than app at a time | 00:23 |
| Armageddon | to be honest, the pc will be used for messengers and web browsing and thats it ! | 00:24 |
| charlie-tca | 128mb works fine using one application at a time | 00:24 |
| charlie-tca | web browsing a lot of flash will hurt | 00:24 |
| charlie-tca | but it is worth trying it. I think browsing is fine at 128mb | 00:24 |
| Armageddon | the computer is baring windows xp SP2 at the moment ! | 00:25 |
| charlie-tca | I had abiword and firefox running at the same time, too | 00:25 |
| Armageddon | would you suggest anything else then xubuntu ? | 00:26 |
| charlie-tca | I haven't tried others, myself | 00:27 |
| Armageddon | so do you think it would be worth a try instead of windows XP ? and does it support wubi ? just for testing ! | 00:28 |
| charlie-tca | yes. to both | 00:28 |
| charlie-tca | Download the cd and give it a try. | 00:28 |
| Armageddon | i will, its my friend's pc :) i have ubuntu jaunty already installed, but im spreading the word :D | 00:29 |
| Armageddon | i so much love linux | 00:29 |
| charlie-tca | Great! maybe you friend will too! | 00:29 |
| ochosi | and gone he is | 00:29 |
| charlie-tca | too slow again... | 00:30 |
| ochosi | well, at least *someone* read it ;) | 00:30 |
| charlie-tca | true :-) | 00:31 |
| youareno6 | I am not ready to upgrade right now, is there any repositories for gutsy still around? | 00:55 |
| charlie-tca | gutsy is no longer supported. | 00:55 |
| charlie-tca | versions are supported for 18 months. You really should upgrade to hardy. That has three years of support since it is LTS | 00:56 |
| youareno6 | charlie-tca: I am not ready to upgrade just yet. Too much at stake if something breaks. Just need a package and none of my repos work. | 00:59 |
| charlie-tca | That's why you to upgrade. Gutsy was end of life in October. The longer you wait, the more difficult it becomes. | 01:00 |
| R1cochet | is there an app the will help me create an icon theme? | 01:15 |
| kuroRei | gimp? | 01:15 |
| R1cochet | i mean a theme set not individual icons | 01:16 |
| mord | R1cochet: http://forge.novell.com/modules/xfmod/project/?gib might help | 01:17 |
| R1cochet | ok wasnt sure if there was something newer or a deb | 01:18 |
| R1cochet | ty | 01:18 |
| R1cochet | can some1 help me install | 01:19 |
| R1cochet | havent installed anything from source b4 | 01:19 |
| mord | R1cochet: ugh, forgot, that's c# stuff. you don't want to touch that ;) | 01:23 |
| R1cochet | damn | 01:23 |
| mord | R1cochet: have you considered creating the theme by hand, http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt/Tutorials/IconThemes has a pretty good tutorial on gtk icon theme creation | 01:23 |
| mord | tango generator should also do the trick i suppose | 01:25 |
| Carlis | Hi | 01:36 |
| Carlis | What wireless driver do u advice to connect Xubuntu to Internet ? | 01:37 |
| charlie-tca | You have to use the one your hardware needs | 01:38 |
| Carlis | What hardware = | 01:39 |
| charlie-tca | !wireless | 01:39 |
| ubottu | Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs | 01:39 |
| Carlis | ? | 01:39 |
| Carlis | ok | 01:39 |
| Carlis | Thank you | 01:40 |
| charlie-tca | no problem | 01:40 |
| meatcar | hey guys | 02:46 |
| meatcar | I'm trying to burn a cd with Brasero | 02:47 |
| meatcar | an audio CD, and it sticks on "Normalising files" | 02:47 |
| meatcar | sorry, its "Normalising Tracks" | 02:48 |
| meatcar | and i left it for 4 hours now. to normalize itself, and it just wont stop. | 02:48 |
| meatcar | never mind. Its a bug in jaunty. not my fault. XD. thanks for listening. lol | 02:51 |
| noumaan | We have finished translating XFCE from the official xfce website how do we submit it to Ubuntu so that it is available to Jaunty users | 03:40 |
| noumaan | We have finished translating XFCE from the official xfce website how do we submit it to Ubuntu so that it is available to Jaunty users | 04:21 |
| susej | how can i change the hotkey for desktop switching | 04:21 |
| susej | i tried gconf-editor | 04:21 |
| susej | with no results | 04:22 |
| susej | i looked in the configure ation part for keyboard and i can addd apilcation shortcuts but i want to change the hotkey <ctl> <alt> leftarrow to somthing else | 04:22 |
| patrick | really enjoying this OS | 05:07 |
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| ball | Is it difficult to add a .deb package to Xubuntu? | 06:06 |
| PaulieG | hello, i need help, i have XB UNTU Jaunty 9.04 installed. any sound file or video file i try to play ends up skipping. | 06:25 |
| PaulieG | when im streaming | 06:25 |
| PaulieG | and local files | 06:25 |
| ball | PaulieG: the audio skips, or the audio and the video? | 06:31 |
| PaulieG | both | 06:34 |
| ball | PaulieG: how much RAM do you have? | 06:37 |
| PaulieG | 1GB | 06:38 |
| ball | That should be adequate. | 06:39 |
| PaulieG | i know, i saw in a forum that this was a common issue but no one had an answer for it | 06:41 |
| ball | PaulieG: what X driver are you using? | 06:44 |
| PaulieG | what do u mean? | 06:45 |
| PaulieG | xorg? | 06:45 |
| ball | Part of X.org is the X server. The X server talks to the hardware through a device driver. What device driver are you using? | 06:45 |
| PaulieG | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReinhardTartler/X/RevertingIntelDriverTo2.4 | 06:46 |
| PaulieG | i think i found the answer? | 06:46 |
| PaulieG | no clue | 06:46 |
| PaulieG | what ever default installed.. hold on ill tell you | 06:47 |
| ball | ok | 06:47 |
| PaulieG | what is the command to find out? | 06:55 |
| btm05 | hello everyone- I'm having problems getting the fonts in Openoffice to look nice- has anyone here got a tip? | 10:05 |
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| firsm | Hi, does anyone know how to disable ssh-agent? | 12:41 |
| SiDi | firsm: you mean the server ? | 14:22 |
| FelineMonstrosit | Hi. How can I access a task manager to see all running processes? | 15:02 |
| FelineMonstrosit | Wait, found it, in the system monitor | 15:02 |
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| KoshB5 | I've upgraded from Intrepid to Jaunty and have lost the internet connection. I still connect to the router (WPA enabled). Useing a usb adapter. | 16:12 |
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| techknowlust | can anyone tell me where the default configuration file is stored for xfce? I'm trying to change the default backdrop on a livecd | 16:38 |
| techknowlust | I'd really appreciate it if anyone knew | 16:38 |
| charlie-tca | The desktop background? | 16:38 |
| techknowlust | yes | 16:38 |
| techknowlust | presumably there's a xfce config file used as a default for new users? | 16:39 |
| charlie-tca | You can change it in Applications -> Settings -> Desktop, but I don't know the default config file. | 16:39 |
| knome | techknowlust, what's wrong with the default? | 16:41 |
| techknowlust | there's nothing wrong with it, I'm delibirately trying to change it though | 16:42 |
| CuriosTiger | knome: Presumably, the default isn't the photo he wants to be looking at all day? | 16:42 |
| techknowlust | it’s a custom livecd for an NGO that I'm working for | 16:43 |
| SiDi | Dont we have an OEM install option on the live CD ? | 16:43 |
| SiDi | !oem | 16:43 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate | 16:43 |
| SiDi | argh | 16:43 |
| charlie-tca | I think it is on the alternate cd | 16:44 |
| SiDi | ah | 16:44 |
| techknowlust | I guess it’s a bit of a hack but I could just replace the file with the one i want and keep the same name | 16:44 |
| techknowlust | feel's a bit... I don't know... lazy though | 16:44 |
| charlie-tca | But that doesn't let them use a live cd, anyway. If they want the live cd instead of the installed version... | 16:44 |
| techknowlust | might as well find out if I can find the config file for future reference | 16:45 |
| charlie-tca | is it in /etc/skeleton? | 16:45 |
| SiDi | techknowlust: there are tools for building your OEM iso | 16:45 |
| SiDi | i dont know if they work with xubuntu but give them a try | 16:45 |
| charlie-tca | Or can you place it in /etc/skel ? | 16:45 |
| charlie-tca | techknowlust: ~/.config/sfce4/sfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/sfce4-desktop.xml? | 16:50 |
| charlie-tca | those sfce should be xfce | 16:50 |
| rip0 | how long does it normally take to start xfce4 from the login-screen? | 16:51 |
| SiDi | too long | 16:51 |
| charlie-tca | depends on your cpu and ram. anywhere from 24-60 seconds | 16:51 |
| SiDi | about 5 secs i'd say | 16:51 |
| SiDi | charlie-tca: we don't have the same CPU apparently:D | 16:51 |
| rip0 | takes me 20 secs on a eeepc, i thought that was far to long (no sessions saved) | 16:52 |
| charlie-tca | and there is a bug report, i just can't find it right now | 16:52 |
| rip0 | *too long | 16:52 |
| SiDi | rip0: its quite long on 8.10, that'll be a focus point for 9.04 afaik | 16:52 |
| SiDi | its true it loads slowly if you hard reboot | 16:52 |
| charlie-tca | maybe a focus point for 9.10 | 16:52 |
| SiDi | i personnally only sleep/wakeup and its fast (but i cache a lot) | 16:52 |
| charlie-tca | 9.04 is out | 16:52 |
| SiDi | charlie-tca: thats a relevant point xD | 16:52 |
| * SiDi goes bed. | 16:53 | |
| charlie-tca | good night? | 16:53 |
| rip0 | 20 seconds is too long in my opinion, even windows is faster .. | 16:53 |
| charlie-tca | How long from start up to desktop? | 16:53 |
| rip0 | from grub to desktop about 45 seconds | 16:54 |
| charlie-tca | which is much faster than windows | 16:54 |
| rip0 | apparently not, give me a moment | 16:54 |
| rip0 | the windows installation on the eee needs around 35 seconds | 16:56 |
| SiDi | the difference is in the different design of the kernels, rip0 | 16:57 |
| SiDi | once you're on desktop under linux, absolutely all the drivers / all the core functions are loaded and working | 16:57 |
| SiDi | under windows, only the part needed to boot and pop the desktop up are loaded | 16:57 |
| rip0 | good point, didn't think of that | 16:58 |
| SiDi | but its true the xubuntu desktop is too slow :D | 16:58 |
| SiDi | (and you dont wanna compare vista vs xubuntu shutdown/suspend/resume times) | 16:58 |
| charlie-tca | SiDi: isn't that a topic for UDS? | 16:58 |
| SiDi | (eventho i love seeing a vista user camping 2/3 mins in front of his pc while its suspending, while mine is already on its bag :P) | 16:58 |
| SiDi | charlie-tca: i think it is | 16:58 |
| SiDi | with the default packages discussion | 16:59 |
| firsm | SiDi: No, I mean ssh-agent. | 17:11 |
| firsm | I have seen dozens of linux users whose laptops were not even able to suspend :p | 17:15 |
| xub | hi everyone :) | 17:23 |
| SiDi | firsm: never heard of that Oo xub hiya | 17:50 |
| firsm | SiDi: never heard of ssh-agent? :-) | 18:09 |
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| SiDi | firsm: no :) | 18:10 |
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| nijm | Hey guys, I have openoffice-gtk installed, but the fonts in openoffice are different to the fonts I use in xfce. Does anybody know how to fix this? | 20:23 |
| SiDi | I know that's a dumb question from me but | 20:24 |
| SiDi | Do you mean the menu fonts ? | 20:24 |
| nijm | Yeah, the GUI fonts in openoffice | 20:24 |
| charlie-tca | OOo has a preferences tool for the gui fonts | 20:24 |
| charlie-tca | but I havn't used OOo in a very long time | 20:25 |
| nijm | I have the "use system font for user interface" option ticked | 20:26 |
| charlie-tca | SiDi: ?? | 20:27 |
| nijm | Ah, it doesn't matter. You can scale the user interface size up, so I've just done that and the fonts are bearable | 20:28 |
| SiDi | charlie-tca: yes ? | 20:29 |
| charlie-tca | nm | 20:29 |
| SiDi | oh, nijm what GPU ? | 20:30 |
| * SiDi had an idea. | 20:30 | |
| SiDi | Is it an old Nvidia card by chance ? | 20:30 |
| SiDi | And do the fonts look "aliased" ? | 20:30 |
| SiDi | do they look "not smooth" ? | 20:30 |
| nijm | SiDi, they looked like they were trying to be antialiased | 20:34 |
| SiDi | What graphics card do you have ? | 20:35 |
| nijm | and I don't really know what GPU this computer is, I'm just borrowing it atm | 20:35 |
| nijm | How can I find out? | 20:35 |
| SiDi | There are bugs in font antialiasing with old nvidia ones | 20:35 |
| nijm | My laptop was stolen :-( | 20:35 |
| SiDi | lspci | grep VGA | 20:35 |
| SiDi | ouch | 20:35 |
| nijm | It's an integrated Intel chip | 20:35 |
| SiDi | damn | 20:35 |
| SiDi | and in the display tab of the preferences window | 20:36 |
| SiDi | is the "font antialiasing" checkbox checked ? | 20:36 |
| nijm | It's ok. I've told it not to use the system font and scaled up the UI, it looks pretty much the same as my other fonts now | 20:36 |
| nijm | I unticked it | 20:36 |
| nijm | Looks kind of like XP now :-) | 20:37 |
| nijm | old school | 20:37 |
| SiDi | heh | 20:38 |
| cemunal | if i don't install my screen driver; the screen is slided right; how can i fix it? | 20:46 |
| SiDi | A screen driver ? :/ | 20:47 |
| charlie-tca | Is it centered when you do install your driver? | 20:48 |
| cemunal | SiDi, nvidia | 20:52 |
| cemunal | charlie-tca, yes | 20:52 |
| charlie-tca | Then the easy fix is install the driver | 20:53 |
| cemunal | charlie-tca, my screen card is very old and new Xorg don't work with nvidia 71 series driver. | 20:54 |
| SiDi | Then i don't think there is much to do. The 96 series are still supported afaik, and they're from GeForce 2. | 20:56 |
| cemunal | SiDi, my screen card is RIVA TNT2 :D | 20:56 |
| cemunal | and it is from 71 series | 20:56 |
| charlie-tca | My tnt2 works with the 96 series | 20:57 |
| charlie-tca | It has worked with all the versions of Xubuntu up to Jaunty | 20:57 |
| cemunal | i try every way but i can't work | 20:58 |
| cemunal | charlie-tca, ^ | 20:59 |
| cemunal | charlie-tca, please look here » http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810#nVidia%20%22legacy%22%20video%20support | 21:00 |
| charlie-tca | I guess I forgot to read that. I am still using the 96 series driver | 21:01 |
| cemunal | with TNT2 ? | 21:02 |
| charlie-tca | yup | 21:02 |
| cemunal | let me try | 21:02 |
| cemunal | charlie-tca, you get direct rendering? | 21:04 |
| charlie-tca | no, I don't use any screen effects or compositors | 21:04 |
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| Slonkie | Is it a possibility to downgrade from 9.04 to 8.10? | 21:41 |
| charlie-tca | It is very difficult to, but if you pick carefully, you can do it. | 21:43 |
| charlie-tca | You have to get the list of packages and remove all the upgraded packages, then install the packages from 8.10 | 21:43 |
| Slonkie | Would it be easier to just install 8.10 on a different partition? | 21:43 |
| charlie-tca | Oh yeah | 21:44 |
| Slonkie | All right. | 21:45 |
| cemunal | charlie-tca, hi | 21:45 |
| Slonkie | I wonder if there's a problem with cups in jaunty since "maple" isen't able to detect any printing services? | 21:45 |
| cemunal | i fix it | 21:45 |
| charlie-tca | Hello, cemunal | 21:45 |
| charlie-tca | Great! | 21:45 |
| cemunal | i use Driver "vesa" | 21:45 |
| cemunal | :) | 21:45 |
| charlie-tca | Got to do what you got to do... | 21:46 |
| cemunal | my screen is centered | 21:46 |
| charlie-tca | I am glad | 21:46 |
| cemunal | charlie-tca, thanks fo your helping | 21:46 |
| cemunal | *for | 21:46 |
| charlie-tca | no problem | 21:46 |
| cemunal | now time 23:46 good night | 21:47 |
| cemunal | :) | 21:47 |
| Slonkie | charlie-tca, do you by any chance know when the next xfce release will be available as a update for jaunty? | 21:47 |
| charlie-tca | I don't. I think NCommander was trying to get it packaged | 21:48 |
| charlie-tca | got a lot of steps to go through. | 21:48 |
| Slonkie | All right | 21:49 |
| * SiDi is already on it via PPA :P | 22:02 | |
| Slonkie | Is it cool? | 22:03 |
| SiDi | Dunno | 22:03 |
| SiDi | i didnt test 4.6.0 | 22:03 |
| SiDi | can't tell about the changes | 22:03 |
| Slonkie | All right | 22:03 |
| gamepockets | :-( | 22:18 |
| artistxe | suck it up :P | 22:19 |
| gamepockets | does anyone know how to set permissions so an external hd can be wrote to? | 22:20 |
| SiDi | depends on the hd | 22:21 |
| SiDi | if its vfat/ntfs then you have to set rights at mount in /etc/fstab | 22:21 |
| SiDi | !fstab | 22:21 |
| ubottu | The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions | 22:21 |
| gamepockets | it's a maxtor 300 gb formatted to ext 3 | 22:21 |
| KoshB5 | I need some help with Jaunty. I've lost internet access. I'm only able to connect to the router. Had no problems w/Intrepid. | 22:26 |
| SiDi | KoshB5: do you mean DHCP fails ? Works on same router with another pc ? | 22:29 |
| gamepockets | ok, my external hd says root, but won't allow me to write to it. | 22:30 |
| artistxe | gamepockets | 22:47 |
| artistxe | curious. what type of filestem is the external ? | 22:48 |
| SiDi | he's gone | 22:48 |
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| * knome is available to answer all kinds of silly questions | 22:49 | |
| artistxe | SiDi, thanks for pointing that out. | 22:51 |
| artistxe | knome. he may not have had his external formatted properly ( is my guess) | 22:52 |
| SiDi | or he mounted it badly in fstab | 22:52 |
| knome | that is possible | 22:52 |
| SiDi | like with "readonly" option :D | 22:52 |
| knome | or then a whale ate it | 22:52 |
| artistxe | true . not mounted | 22:52 |
| charlie-tca | !away > NvdH|Away | 23:11 |
| ubottu | NvdH|Away, please see my private message | 23:11 |
| charlie-tca | or maybe just needs to chown it to himself instead of root | 23:13 |
| Slonkie | where are those files with blacklisted items stored? | 23:22 |
| cemunal | does anybody know how to use mesa drivers with nvidia riva tnt2 under xubuntu? | 23:27 |
| charlie-tca | Slonkie: /etc/modprobe.d | 23:27 |
| * CuriosTiger gave up on nvidia's drivers under ubuntu. | 23:30 | |
| KoshB5 | need help w/9.04 wireless. upgraded from 8.1 and lost internet connection | 23:53 |
| KoshB5 | I've flushed the iptables and no change | 23:54 |
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| |val| | hi all, someone can explain what options "replace" and "applies" (in gfxboot.cfg) excatly do to isolinux command line ? | 23:57 |
| |val| | file=/cdrom/preseed/xubuntu.seed is replaces by file=/cdrom/preseed/cli.seed or by cli=/cdrom/preseed/cli.seed ? | 23:59 |
| |val| | and what about applies, it's add the argument cli=install to the command line ? | 23:59 |
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