[00:18] guys, what are the system requirements for xubuntu ? [00:19] 400mhz cpu with 128mb ram are absolute minimum. 256 mb ram preferred [00:19] 128mb makes the gui real slow and hard to use [00:20] how about a 1.4GHz CPU and 128MB RAM ? [00:20] still gonna run slow [00:20] ram makes a difference [00:20] a big hardrive he can use a lot of swap ! [00:23] would that help ? [00:23] It will help with freezes, but I don't know how much it will help if running more than app at a time [00:24] to be honest, the pc will be used for messengers and web browsing and thats it ! [00:24] 128mb works fine using one application at a time [00:24] web browsing a lot of flash will hurt [00:24] but it is worth trying it. I think browsing is fine at 128mb [00:25] the computer is baring windows xp SP2 at the moment ! [00:25] I had abiword and firefox running at the same time, too [00:26] would you suggest anything else then xubuntu ? [00:27] I haven't tried others, myself [00:28] so do you think it would be worth a try instead of windows XP ? and does it support wubi ? just for testing ! [00:28] yes. to both [00:28] Download the cd and give it a try. [00:29] i will, its my friend's pc :) i have ubuntu jaunty already installed, but im spreading the word :D [00:29] i so much love linux [00:29] Great! maybe you friend will too! [00:29] and gone he is [00:30] too slow again... [00:30] well, at least *someone* read it ;) [00:31] true :-) [00:55] I am not ready to upgrade right now, is there any repositories for gutsy still around? [00:55] gutsy is no longer supported. [00:56] versions are supported for 18 months. You really should upgrade to hardy. That has three years of support since it is LTS [00:59] charlie-tca: I am not ready to upgrade just yet. Too much at stake if something breaks. Just need a package and none of my repos work. [01:00] That's why you to upgrade. Gutsy was end of life in October. The longer you wait, the more difficult it becomes. [01:15] is there an app the will help me create an icon theme? [01:15] gimp? [01:16] i mean a theme set not individual icons [01:17] R1cochet: http://forge.novell.com/modules/xfmod/project/?gib might help [01:18] ok wasnt sure if there was something newer or a deb [01:18] ty [01:19] can some1 help me install [01:19] havent installed anything from source b4 [01:23] R1cochet: ugh, forgot, that's c# stuff. you don't want to touch that ;) [01:23] damn [01:23] R1cochet: have you considered creating the theme by hand, http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt/Tutorials/IconThemes has a pretty good tutorial on gtk icon theme creation [01:25] tango generator should also do the trick i suppose [01:36] Hi [01:37] What wireless driver do u advice to connect Xubuntu to Internet ? [01:38] You have to use the one your hardware needs [01:39] What hardware = [01:39] !wireless [01:39] Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [01:39] ? [01:39] ok [01:40] Thank you [01:40] no problem [02:46] hey guys [02:47] I'm trying to burn a cd with Brasero [02:47] an audio CD, and it sticks on "Normalising files" [02:48] sorry, its "Normalising Tracks" [02:48] and i left it for 4 hours now. to normalize itself, and it just wont stop. [02:51] never mind. Its a bug in jaunty. not my fault. XD. thanks for listening. lol [03:40] We have finished translating XFCE from the official xfce website how do we submit it to Ubuntu so that it is available to Jaunty users [04:21] We have finished translating XFCE from the official xfce website how do we submit it to Ubuntu so that it is available to Jaunty users [04:21] how can i change the hotkey for desktop switching [04:21] i tried gconf-editor [04:22] with no results [04:22] i looked in the configure ation part for keyboard and i can addd apilcation shortcuts but i want to change the hotkey leftarrow to somthing else [05:07] really enjoying this OS === freego is now known as forces [06:06] Is it difficult to add a .deb package to Xubuntu? [06:25] hello, i need help, i have XB UNTU Jaunty 9.04 installed. any sound file or video file i try to play ends up skipping. [06:25] when im streaming [06:25] and local files [06:31] PaulieG: the audio skips, or the audio and the video? [06:34] both [06:37] PaulieG: how much RAM do you have? [06:38] 1GB [06:39] That should be adequate. [06:41] i know, i saw in a forum that this was a common issue but no one had an answer for it [06:44] PaulieG: what X driver are you using? [06:45] what do u mean? [06:45] xorg? [06:45] Part of X.org is the X server. The X server talks to the hardware through a device driver. What device driver are you using? [06:46] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReinhardTartler/X/RevertingIntelDriverTo2.4 [06:46] i think i found the answer? [06:46] no clue [06:47] what ever default installed.. hold on ill tell you [06:47] ok [06:55] what is the command to find out? [10:05] hello everyone- I'm having problems getting the fonts in Openoffice to look nice- has anyone here got a tip? === R1coch3t is now known as R1cochet [12:41] Hi, does anyone know how to disable ssh-agent? [14:22] firsm: you mean the server ? [15:02] Hi. How can I access a task manager to see all running processes? [15:02] Wait, found it, in the system monitor === akshayshah is now known as akshayshah_ === akshayshah_ is now known as akshayshah [16:12] I've upgraded from Intrepid to Jaunty and have lost the internet connection. I still connect to the router (WPA enabled). Useing a usb adapter. === genii-2 is now known as genii-around [16:38] can anyone tell me where the default configuration file is stored for xfce? I'm trying to change the default backdrop on a livecd [16:38] I'd really appreciate it if anyone knew [16:38] The desktop background? [16:38] yes [16:39] presumably there's a xfce config file used as a default for new users? [16:39] You can change it in Applications -> Settings -> Desktop, but I don't know the default config file. [16:41] techknowlust, what's wrong with the default? [16:42] there's nothing wrong with it, I'm delibirately trying to change it though [16:42] knome: Presumably, the default isn't the photo he wants to be looking at all day? [16:43] it’s a custom livecd for an NGO that I'm working for [16:43] Dont we have an OEM install option on the live CD ? [16:43] !oem [16:43] Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate [16:43] argh [16:44] I think it is on the alternate cd [16:44] ah [16:44] I guess it’s a bit of a hack but I could just replace the file with the one i want and keep the same name [16:44] feel's a bit... I don't know... lazy though [16:44] But that doesn't let them use a live cd, anyway. If they want the live cd instead of the installed version... [16:45] might as well find out if I can find the config file for future reference [16:45] is it in /etc/skeleton? [16:45] techknowlust: there are tools for building your OEM iso [16:45] i dont know if they work with xubuntu but give them a try [16:45] Or can you place it in /etc/skel ? [16:50] techknowlust: ~/.config/sfce4/sfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/sfce4-desktop.xml? [16:50] those sfce should be xfce [16:51] how long does it normally take to start xfce4 from the login-screen? [16:51] too long [16:51] depends on your cpu and ram. anywhere from 24-60 seconds [16:51] about 5 secs i'd say [16:51] charlie-tca: we don't have the same CPU apparently:D [16:52] takes me 20 secs on a eeepc, i thought that was far to long (no sessions saved) [16:52] and there is a bug report, i just can't find it right now [16:52] *too long [16:52] rip0: its quite long on 8.10, that'll be a focus point for 9.04 afaik [16:52] its true it loads slowly if you hard reboot [16:52] maybe a focus point for 9.10 [16:52] i personnally only sleep/wakeup and its fast (but i cache a lot) [16:52] 9.04 is out [16:52] charlie-tca: thats a relevant point xD [16:53] * SiDi goes bed. [16:53] good night? [16:53] 20 seconds is too long in my opinion, even windows is faster .. [16:53] How long from start up to desktop? [16:54] from grub to desktop about 45 seconds [16:54] which is much faster than windows [16:54] apparently not, give me a moment [16:56] the windows installation on the eee needs around 35 seconds [16:57] the difference is in the different design of the kernels, rip0 [16:57] once you're on desktop under linux, absolutely all the drivers / all the core functions are loaded and working [16:57] under windows, only the part needed to boot and pop the desktop up are loaded [16:58] good point, didn't think of that [16:58] but its true the xubuntu desktop is too slow :D [16:58] (and you dont wanna compare vista vs xubuntu shutdown/suspend/resume times) [16:58] SiDi: isn't that a topic for UDS? [16:58] (eventho i love seeing a vista user camping 2/3 mins in front of his pc while its suspending, while mine is already on its bag :P) [16:58] charlie-tca: i think it is [16:59] with the default packages discussion [17:11] SiDi: No, I mean ssh-agent. [17:15] I have seen dozens of linux users whose laptops were not even able to suspend :p [17:23] hi everyone :) [17:50] firsm: never heard of that Oo xub hiya [18:09] SiDi: never heard of ssh-agent? :-) === NavadeHo is now known as NvdH|Away [18:10] firsm: no :) === NvdH|Away is now known as NavadeHo === R1coch3t is now known as R1cochet [20:23] Hey guys, I have openoffice-gtk installed, but the fonts in openoffice are different to the fonts I use in xfce. Does anybody know how to fix this? [20:24] I know that's a dumb question from me but [20:24] Do you mean the menu fonts ? [20:24] Yeah, the GUI fonts in openoffice [20:24] OOo has a preferences tool for the gui fonts [20:25] but I havn't used OOo in a very long time [20:26] I have the "use system font for user interface" option ticked [20:27] SiDi: ?? [20:28] Ah, it doesn't matter. You can scale the user interface size up, so I've just done that and the fonts are bearable [20:29] charlie-tca: yes ? [20:29] nm [20:30] oh, nijm what GPU ? [20:30] * SiDi had an idea. [20:30] Is it an old Nvidia card by chance ? [20:30] And do the fonts look "aliased" ? [20:30] do they look "not smooth" ? [20:34] SiDi, they looked like they were trying to be antialiased [20:35] What graphics card do you have ? [20:35] and I don't really know what GPU this computer is, I'm just borrowing it atm [20:35] How can I find out? [20:35] There are bugs in font antialiasing with old nvidia ones [20:35] My laptop was stolen :-( [20:35] lspci | grep VGA [20:35] ouch [20:35] It's an integrated Intel chip [20:35] damn [20:36] and in the display tab of the preferences window [20:36] is the "font antialiasing" checkbox checked ? [20:36] It's ok. I've told it not to use the system font and scaled up the UI, it looks pretty much the same as my other fonts now [20:36] I unticked it [20:37] Looks kind of like XP now :-) [20:37] old school [20:38] heh [20:46] if i don't install my screen driver; the screen is slided right; how can i fix it? [20:47] A screen driver ? :/ [20:48] Is it centered when you do install your driver? [20:52] SiDi, nvidia [20:52] charlie-tca, yes [20:53] Then the easy fix is install the driver [20:54] charlie-tca, my screen card is very old and new Xorg don't work with nvidia 71 series driver. [20:56] Then i don't think there is much to do. The 96 series are still supported afaik, and they're from GeForce 2. [20:56] SiDi, my screen card is RIVA TNT2 :D [20:56] and it is from 71 series [20:57] My tnt2 works with the 96 series [20:57] It has worked with all the versions of Xubuntu up to Jaunty [20:58] i try every way but i can't work [20:59] charlie-tca, ^ [21:00] charlie-tca, please look here » http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810#nVidia%20%22legacy%22%20video%20support [21:01] I guess I forgot to read that. I am still using the 96 series driver [21:02] with TNT2 ? [21:02] yup [21:02] let me try [21:04] charlie-tca, you get direct rendering? [21:04] no, I don't use any screen effects or compositors === NavadeHo is now known as NvdH|Away === NvdH|Away is now known as NavadeHo [21:41] Is it a possibility to downgrade from 9.04 to 8.10? [21:43] It is very difficult to, but if you pick carefully, you can do it. [21:43] You have to get the list of packages and remove all the upgraded packages, then install the packages from 8.10 [21:43] Would it be easier to just install 8.10 on a different partition? [21:44] Oh yeah [21:45] All right. [21:45] charlie-tca, hi [21:45] I wonder if there's a problem with cups in jaunty since "maple" isen't able to detect any printing services? [21:45] i fix it [21:45] Hello, cemunal [21:45] Great! [21:45] i use Driver "vesa" [21:45] :) [21:46] Got to do what you got to do... [21:46] my screen is centered [21:46] I am glad [21:46] charlie-tca, thanks fo your helping [21:46] *for [21:46] no problem [21:47] now time 23:46 good night [21:47] :) [21:47] charlie-tca, do you by any chance know when the next xfce release will be available as a update for jaunty? [21:48] I don't. I think NCommander was trying to get it packaged [21:48] got a lot of steps to go through. [21:49] All right [22:02] * SiDi is already on it via PPA :P [22:03] Is it cool? [22:03] Dunno [22:03] i didnt test 4.6.0 [22:03] can't tell about the changes [22:03] All right [22:18] :-( [22:19] suck it up :P [22:20] does anyone know how to set permissions so an external hd can be wrote to? [22:21] depends on the hd [22:21] if its vfat/ntfs then you have to set rights at mount in /etc/fstab [22:21] !fstab [22:21] The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions [22:21] it's a maxtor 300 gb formatted to ext 3 [22:26] I need some help with Jaunty. I've lost internet access. I'm only able to connect to the router. Had no problems w/Intrepid. [22:29] KoshB5: do you mean DHCP fails ? Works on same router with another pc ? [22:30] ok, my external hd says root, but won't allow me to write to it. [22:47] gamepockets [22:48] curious. what type of filestem is the external ? [22:48] he's gone === NavadeHo is now known as NvdH|Away [22:49] * knome is available to answer all kinds of silly questions [22:51] SiDi, thanks for pointing that out. [22:52] knome. he may not have had his external formatted properly ( is my guess) [22:52] or he mounted it badly in fstab [22:52] that is possible [22:52] like with "readonly" option :D [22:52] or then a whale ate it [22:52] true . not mounted [23:11] !away > NvdH|Away [23:11] NvdH|Away, please see my private message [23:13] or maybe just needs to chown it to himself instead of root [23:22] where are those files with blacklisted items stored? [23:27] does anybody know how to use mesa drivers with nvidia riva tnt2 under xubuntu? [23:27] Slonkie: /etc/modprobe.d [23:30] * CuriosTiger gave up on nvidia's drivers under ubuntu. [23:53] need help w/9.04 wireless. upgraded from 8.1 and lost internet connection [23:54] I've flushed the iptables and no change === NvdH|Away is now known as NavadeHo [23:57] <|val|> hi all, someone can explain what options "replace" and "applies" (in gfxboot.cfg) excatly do to isolinux command line ? [23:59] <|val|> file=/cdrom/preseed/xubuntu.seed is replaces by file=/cdrom/preseed/cli.seed or by cli=/cdrom/preseed/cli.seed ? [23:59] <|val|> and what about applies, it's add the argument cli=install to the command line ?