[00:18] <Armageddon> guys, what are the system requirements for xubuntu ?
[00:19] <charlie-tca> 400mhz cpu with 128mb ram are absolute minimum. 256 mb ram preferred
[00:19] <charlie-tca> 128mb makes the gui real slow and hard to use
[00:20] <Armageddon> how about a 1.4GHz CPU and 128MB RAM ?
[00:20] <charlie-tca> still gonna run slow
[00:20] <charlie-tca> ram makes a difference
[00:20] <Armageddon> a big hardrive he can use a lot of swap !
[00:23] <Armageddon> would that help ?
[00:23] <charlie-tca> It will help with freezes, but I don't know how much it will help if running more than app at a time
[00:24] <Armageddon> to be honest, the pc will be used for messengers and web browsing and thats it !
[00:24] <charlie-tca> 128mb works fine using one application at a time
[00:24] <charlie-tca> web browsing a lot of flash will hurt
[00:24] <charlie-tca> but it is worth trying it. I think browsing is fine at 128mb
[00:25] <Armageddon> the computer is baring windows xp SP2 at the moment !
[00:25] <charlie-tca> I had abiword and firefox running at the same time, too
[00:26] <Armageddon> would you suggest anything else then xubuntu ?
[00:27] <charlie-tca> I haven't tried others, myself
[00:28] <Armageddon> so do you think it would be worth a try instead of windows XP ? and does it support wubi ? just for testing !
[00:28] <charlie-tca> yes. to both
[00:28] <charlie-tca> Download the cd and give it a try.
[00:29] <Armageddon> i will, its my friend's pc :) i have ubuntu jaunty already installed, but im spreading the word :D
[00:29] <Armageddon> i so much love linux
[00:29] <charlie-tca> Great! maybe you friend will too!
[00:29] <ochosi> and gone he is
[00:30] <charlie-tca> too slow again...
[00:30] <ochosi> well, at least *someone* read it ;)
[00:31] <charlie-tca> true :-)
[00:55] <youareno6> I am not ready to upgrade right now, is there any repositories for gutsy still around?
[00:55] <charlie-tca> gutsy is no longer supported.
[00:56] <charlie-tca> versions are supported for 18 months. You really should upgrade to hardy. That has three years of support since it is LTS
[00:59] <youareno6> charlie-tca: I am not ready to upgrade just yet. Too much at stake if something breaks. Just need a package and none of my repos work.
[01:00] <charlie-tca> That's why you to upgrade. Gutsy was end of life in October. The longer you wait, the more difficult it becomes.
[01:15] <R1cochet> is there an app the will help me create an icon theme?
[01:15] <kuroRei> gimp?
[01:16] <R1cochet> i mean a theme set not individual icons
[01:17] <mord> R1cochet: http://forge.novell.com/modules/xfmod/project/?gib might help
[01:18] <R1cochet> ok wasnt sure if there was something newer or a deb
[01:18] <R1cochet> ty
[01:19] <R1cochet> can some1 help me install
[01:19] <R1cochet> havent installed anything from source b4
[01:23] <mord> R1cochet: ugh, forgot, that's c# stuff. you don't want to touch that ;)
[01:23] <R1cochet> damn
[01:23] <mord> R1cochet: have you considered creating the theme by hand, http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt/Tutorials/IconThemes has a pretty good tutorial on gtk icon theme creation
[01:25] <mord> tango generator should also do the trick i suppose
[01:36] <Carlis> Hi
[01:37] <Carlis> What wireless driver do u advice to connect Xubuntu to Internet ?
[01:38] <charlie-tca> You have to use the one your hardware needs
[01:39] <Carlis> What hardware =
[01:39] <charlie-tca> !wireless
[01:39] <Carlis> ?
[01:39] <Carlis> ok
[01:40] <Carlis> Thank you
[01:40] <charlie-tca> no problem
[02:46] <meatcar> hey guys
[02:47] <meatcar> I'm trying to burn a cd with Brasero
[02:47] <meatcar> an audio CD, and it sticks on "Normalising files"
[02:48] <meatcar> sorry, its "Normalising Tracks"
[02:48] <meatcar> and i left it for 4 hours now. to normalize itself, and it just wont stop.
[02:51] <meatcar> never mind. Its a bug in jaunty. not my fault. XD. thanks for listening. lol
[03:40] <noumaan>  We have finished translating XFCE from the official xfce website how do we submit it to Ubuntu so that it is available to Jaunty users
[04:21] <noumaan> We have finished translating XFCE from the official xfce website how do we submit it to Ubuntu so that it is available to Jaunty users
[04:21] <susej> how can i change the hotkey for desktop switching
[04:21] <susej> i tried gconf-editor
[04:22] <susej> with no results
[04:22] <susej> i looked in the configure ation part for keyboard and i can addd apilcation shortcuts but i want to change the hotkey <ctl> <alt> leftarrow to somthing else
[05:07] <patrick> really enjoying this OS
[06:06] <ball> Is it difficult to add a .deb package to Xubuntu?
[06:25] <PaulieG> hello, i need help, i have XB UNTU Jaunty 9.04 installed. any sound file or video file i try to play ends up skipping.
[06:25] <PaulieG> when im streaming
[06:25] <PaulieG> and local files
[06:31] <ball> PaulieG: the audio skips, or the audio and the video?
[06:34] <PaulieG> both
[06:37] <ball> PaulieG: how much RAM do you have?
[06:38] <PaulieG> 1GB
[06:39] <ball> That should be adequate.
[06:41] <PaulieG> i know, i saw in a forum that this was a common issue but no one had an answer for it
[06:44] <ball> PaulieG: what X driver are you using?
[06:45] <PaulieG> what do u mean?
[06:45] <PaulieG> xorg?
[06:45] <ball> Part of X.org is the X server.  The X server talks to the hardware through a device driver.  What device driver are you using?
[06:46] <PaulieG> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReinhardTartler/X/RevertingIntelDriverTo2.4
[06:46] <PaulieG> i think i found the answer?
[06:46] <PaulieG> no clue
[06:47] <PaulieG> what ever default installed.. hold on ill tell you
[06:47] <ball> ok
[06:55] <PaulieG> what is the command to find out?
[10:05] <btm05> hello everyone- I'm having problems getting the fonts in Openoffice to look nice- has anyone here got a tip?
[12:41] <firsm> Hi, does anyone know how to disable ssh-agent?
[14:22] <SiDi> firsm: you mean the server ?
[15:02] <FelineMonstrosit> Hi. How can I access a task manager to see all running processes?
[15:02] <FelineMonstrosit> Wait, found it, in the system monitor
[16:12] <KoshB5> I've upgraded from Intrepid to Jaunty and have lost the internet connection. I still connect to the router (WPA enabled). Useing a usb adapter.
[16:38] <techknowlust> can anyone tell me where the default configuration file is stored for xfce? I'm trying to change the default backdrop on a livecd
[16:38] <techknowlust> I'd really appreciate it if anyone knew
[16:38] <charlie-tca> The desktop background?
[16:38] <techknowlust> yes
[16:39] <techknowlust> presumably there's a xfce config file used as a default for new users?
[16:39] <charlie-tca> You can change it in Applications -> Settings -> Desktop, but I don't know  the default config file.
[16:41] <knome> techknowlust, what's wrong with the default?
[16:42] <techknowlust> there's nothing wrong with it, I'm delibirately trying to change it though
[16:42] <CuriosTiger> knome: Presumably, the default isn't the photo he wants to be looking at all day?
[16:43] <techknowlust> it’s a custom livecd for an NGO that I'm working for
[16:43] <SiDi> Dont we have an OEM install option on the live CD ?
[16:43] <SiDi> !oem
[16:43] <SiDi> argh
[16:44] <charlie-tca> I think it is on the alternate cd
[16:44] <SiDi> ah
[16:44] <techknowlust> I guess it’s a bit of a hack but I could just replace the file with the one i want and keep the same name
[16:44] <techknowlust> feel's a bit... I don't know... lazy though
[16:44] <charlie-tca> But that doesn't let them use a live cd, anyway. If they want the live cd instead of the installed version...
[16:45] <techknowlust> might as well find out if I can find the config file for future reference
[16:45] <charlie-tca> is it in /etc/skeleton?
[16:45] <SiDi> techknowlust: there are tools for building your OEM iso
[16:45] <SiDi> i dont know if they work with xubuntu but give them a try
[16:45] <charlie-tca> Or can you place it in /etc/skel ?
[16:50] <charlie-tca> techknowlust: ~/.config/sfce4/sfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/sfce4-desktop.xml?
[16:50] <charlie-tca> those sfce should be xfce
[16:51] <rip0> how long does it normally take to start xfce4 from the login-screen?
[16:51] <SiDi> too long
[16:51] <charlie-tca> depends on your cpu and ram. anywhere from 24-60 seconds
[16:51] <SiDi> about 5 secs i'd say
[16:51] <SiDi> charlie-tca: we don't have the same CPU apparently:D
[16:52] <rip0> takes me 20 secs on a eeepc, i thought that was far to long (no sessions saved)
[16:52] <charlie-tca> and there is a bug report, i just can't find it right now
[16:52] <rip0> *too long
[16:52] <SiDi> rip0: its quite long on 8.10, that'll be a focus point for 9.04 afaik
[16:52] <SiDi> its true it loads slowly if you hard reboot
[16:52] <charlie-tca> maybe a focus point for 9.10
[16:52] <SiDi> i personnally only sleep/wakeup and its fast (but i cache a lot)
[16:52] <charlie-tca> 9.04 is out
[16:52] <SiDi> charlie-tca: thats a relevant point xD
[16:53]  * SiDi goes bed.
[16:53] <charlie-tca> good night?
[16:53] <rip0> 20 seconds is too long in my opinion, even windows is faster ..
[16:53] <charlie-tca> How long from start up to desktop?
[16:54] <rip0> from grub to desktop about 45 seconds
[16:54] <charlie-tca> which is much faster than windows
[16:54] <rip0> apparently not, give me a moment
[16:56] <rip0> the windows installation on the eee needs around 35 seconds
[16:57] <SiDi> the difference is in the different design of the kernels, rip0
[16:57] <SiDi> once you're on desktop under linux, absolutely all the drivers / all the core functions are loaded and working
[16:57] <SiDi> under windows, only the part needed to boot and pop the desktop up are loaded
[16:58] <rip0> good point, didn't think of that
[16:58] <SiDi> but its true the xubuntu desktop is too slow :D
[16:58] <SiDi> (and you dont wanna compare vista vs xubuntu shutdown/suspend/resume times)
[16:58] <charlie-tca> SiDi: isn't that a topic for UDS?
[16:58] <SiDi> (eventho i love seeing a vista user camping 2/3 mins in front of his pc while its suspending, while mine is already on its bag :P)
[16:58] <SiDi> charlie-tca: i think it is
[16:59] <SiDi> with the default packages discussion
[17:11] <firsm> SiDi: No, I mean ssh-agent.
[17:15] <firsm> I have seen dozens of linux users whose laptops were not even able to suspend :p
[17:23] <xub> hi everyone :)
[17:50] <SiDi> firsm: never heard of that Oo xub hiya
[18:09] <firsm> SiDi: never heard of ssh-agent? :-)
[18:10] <SiDi> firsm: no :)
[20:23] <nijm> Hey guys, I have openoffice-gtk installed, but the fonts in openoffice are different to the fonts I use in xfce. Does anybody know how to fix this?
[20:24] <SiDi> I know that's a dumb question from me but
[20:24] <SiDi> Do you mean the menu fonts ?
[20:24] <nijm> Yeah, the GUI fonts in openoffice
[20:24] <charlie-tca> OOo has a preferences tool for the gui fonts
[20:25] <charlie-tca> but I havn't used OOo in a very long time
[20:26] <nijm> I have the "use system font for user interface" option ticked
[20:27] <charlie-tca> SiDi: ??
[20:28] <nijm> Ah, it doesn't matter. You can scale the user interface size up, so I've just done that and the fonts are bearable
[20:29] <SiDi> charlie-tca: yes ?
[20:29] <charlie-tca> nm
[20:30] <SiDi> oh, nijm what GPU ?
[20:30]  * SiDi had an idea.
[20:30] <SiDi> Is it an old Nvidia card by chance ?
[20:30] <SiDi> And do the fonts look "aliased" ?
[20:30] <SiDi> do they look "not smooth" ?
[20:34] <nijm> SiDi, they looked like they were trying to be antialiased
[20:35] <SiDi> What graphics card do you have ?
[20:35] <nijm> and I don't really know what GPU this computer is, I'm just borrowing it atm
[20:35] <nijm> How can I find out?
[20:35] <SiDi> There are bugs in font antialiasing with old nvidia ones
[20:35] <nijm> My laptop was stolen :-(
[20:35] <SiDi> lspci | grep VGA
[20:35] <SiDi> ouch
[20:35] <nijm> It's an integrated Intel chip
[20:35] <SiDi> damn
[20:36] <SiDi> and in the display tab of the preferences window
[20:36] <SiDi> is the "font antialiasing" checkbox checked ?
[20:36] <nijm> It's ok. I've told it not to use the system font and scaled up the UI, it looks pretty much the same as my other fonts now
[20:36] <nijm> I unticked it
[20:37] <nijm> Looks kind of like XP now :-)
[20:37] <nijm> old school
[20:38] <SiDi> heh
[20:46] <cemunal> if i don't install my screen driver; the screen is slided right; how can i fix it?
[20:47] <SiDi> A screen driver ? :/
[20:48] <charlie-tca> Is it centered when you do install your driver?
[20:52] <cemunal> SiDi, nvidia
[20:52] <cemunal> charlie-tca, yes
[20:53] <charlie-tca> Then the easy fix is install the driver
[20:54] <cemunal> charlie-tca, my screen card is very old and new Xorg don't work with nvidia 71 series driver.
[20:56] <SiDi> Then i don't think there is much to do. The 96 series are still supported afaik, and they're from GeForce 2.
[20:56] <cemunal> SiDi, my screen card is RIVA TNT2 :D
[20:56] <cemunal> and it is from 71 series
[20:57] <charlie-tca> My tnt2 works with the 96 series
[20:57] <charlie-tca> It has worked with all the versions of Xubuntu up to Jaunty
[20:58] <cemunal> i try every way but i can't work
[20:59] <cemunal> charlie-tca, ^
[21:00] <cemunal> charlie-tca, please look here » http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810#nVidia%20%22legacy%22%20video%20support
[21:01] <charlie-tca> I guess I forgot to read that. I am still using the 96 series driver
[21:02] <cemunal> with TNT2 ?
[21:02] <charlie-tca> yup
[21:02] <cemunal> let me try
[21:04] <cemunal> charlie-tca, you get direct rendering?
[21:04] <charlie-tca> no, I don't use any screen effects or compositors
[21:41] <Slonkie> Is it a possibility to downgrade from 9.04 to 8.10?
[21:43] <charlie-tca> It is very difficult to, but if you pick carefully, you can do it.
[21:43] <charlie-tca> You have to get the list of packages and remove all the upgraded packages, then install the packages from 8.10
[21:43] <Slonkie> Would it be easier to just install 8.10 on a different partition?
[21:44] <charlie-tca> Oh yeah
[21:45] <Slonkie> All right.
[21:45] <cemunal> charlie-tca, hi
[21:45] <Slonkie> I wonder if there's a problem with cups in jaunty since "maple" isen't able to detect any printing services?
[21:45] <cemunal> i fix it
[21:45] <charlie-tca> Hello, cemunal
[21:45] <charlie-tca> Great!
[21:45] <cemunal> i use Driver "vesa"
[21:45] <cemunal> :)
[21:46] <charlie-tca> Got to do what you got to do...
[21:46] <cemunal> my screen is centered
[21:46] <charlie-tca> I am glad
[21:46] <cemunal> charlie-tca, thanks fo your helping
[21:46] <cemunal> *for
[21:46] <charlie-tca> no problem
[21:47] <cemunal> now time 23:46 good night
[21:47] <cemunal> :)
[21:47] <Slonkie> charlie-tca, do you by any chance know when the next xfce release will be available as a update for jaunty?
[21:48] <charlie-tca> I don't. I think NCommander was trying to get it packaged
[21:48] <charlie-tca> got a lot of steps to go through.
[21:49] <Slonkie> All right
[22:02]  * SiDi is already on it via PPA :P
[22:03] <Slonkie> Is it cool?
[22:03] <SiDi> Dunno
[22:03] <SiDi> i didnt test 4.6.0
[22:03] <SiDi> can't tell about the changes
[22:03] <Slonkie> All right
[22:18] <gamepockets> :-(
[22:19] <artistxe> suck it up  :P
[22:20] <gamepockets> does anyone know how to set permissions so an external hd can be wrote to?
[22:21] <SiDi> depends on the hd
[22:21] <SiDi> if its vfat/ntfs then you have to set rights at mount in /etc/fstab
[22:21] <SiDi> !fstab
[22:21] <gamepockets> it's a maxtor 300 gb formatted to ext 3
[22:26] <KoshB5> I need some help with Jaunty. I've lost internet access. I'm only able to connect to the router. Had no problems w/Intrepid.
[22:29] <SiDi> KoshB5: do you mean DHCP fails ? Works on same router with another pc ?
[22:30] <gamepockets> ok, my external hd says root, but won't allow me to write to it.
[22:47] <artistxe> gamepockets
[22:48] <artistxe> curious. what type of filestem is the external ?
[22:48] <SiDi> he's gone
[22:49]  * knome is available to answer all kinds of silly questions
[22:51] <artistxe> SiDi, thanks for pointing that out.
[22:52] <artistxe> knome. he may not have had his external formatted properly ( is my guess)
[22:52] <SiDi> or he mounted it badly in fstab
[22:52] <knome> that is possible
[22:52] <SiDi> like with "readonly" option :D
[22:52] <knome> or then a whale ate it
[22:52] <artistxe> true . not mounted
[23:11] <charlie-tca> !away > NvdH|Away
[23:13] <charlie-tca> or maybe just needs to chown it to himself instead of root
[23:22] <Slonkie> where are those files with blacklisted items stored?
[23:27] <cemunal> does anybody know how to use mesa drivers with nvidia riva tnt2 under xubuntu?
[23:27] <charlie-tca> Slonkie: /etc/modprobe.d
[23:30]  * CuriosTiger gave up on nvidia's drivers under ubuntu.
[23:53] <KoshB5> need help w/9.04 wireless. upgraded from 8.1 and lost internet connection
[23:54] <KoshB5> I've flushed the iptables and no change
[23:57] <|val|> hi all, someone can explain what options "replace" and "applies" (in gfxboot.cfg) excatly do to isolinux command line ?
[23:59] <|val|> file=/cdrom/preseed/xubuntu.seed is replaces by file=/cdrom/preseed/cli.seed or by cli=/cdrom/preseed/cli.seed ?
[23:59] <|val|> and what about applies, it's add the argument cli=install to the command line ?