/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/05/16/#kubuntu-devel.txt

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Daskreech_Nightrose: ping00:19
NightroseDaskreech_: pong00:20
Daskreech_Nightrose: the Kubuntu-experimental repo would have the Beta 2 packages?00:20
Nightrosenope :/00:20
Nightrosestill not packaged afaik00:21
rgreeningits a work in progress.00:21
Daskreech_They will be there though?00:21
rgreeningDaskreech_: yep00:21
Daskreech_ok00:21
rgreeningit's partially built and partially backported00:21
rgreeningbindings is broken badly.00:21
* Daskreech_ skips off into the dusK00:22
Nightrosergreening: he's talking about amarok btw00:23
Nightrose(not sure if you are too)00:24
rgreeningoh. oops. doh00:24
rgreeningAh, but same applies00:24
* rgreening is brain dead 00:25
Nightrose;-)00:25
rgreeningNightrose: been working on kde 4.3 all day00:25
* Nightrose hands rgreening a cookie and bribes him into having a look at amarok00:25
rgreeningkdepim and bindings are being naughty00:25
Nightrose:/00:25
rgreeningIve got my hands full at the moment...00:26
rgreeningtrying to get kde 4.3 beta out00:26
rgreeningNightrose: you going to UDS00:26
Nightrosenope :/00:26
Daskreech_How is Beta 1 looking for Koala?00:26
rgreeningah00:26
rgreeningIt's partially uploaded.00:26
rgreeningand partially backport to jaunty00:27
rgreeningJontheEchidna: has been a mad dog with back porting00:27
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rgreening+1 JontheEchidna00:27
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JontheEchidna^_^00:27
Daskreech_Still in the build queue?00:30
JontheEchidnaworkspace is still fscked up the arse00:32
Daskreech_fsck -s ?00:34
JontheEchidnas/s/u00:35
Daskreech_but that ruins the whole joke :(00:40
Daskreech_http://identi.ca/notice/428532800:43
Riddell_Sime: kdeedu python bindings need an update00:55
rgreeningRiddell: hey00:58
Riddellremind me to go to spain in six hours00:58
JontheEchidnalol00:58
rgreeninghaha00:58
rgreeningti quero taco bell00:59
apacheloggerkubotu: remind Riddell about going to spain in 6 hours00:59
kubotuaight00:59
rgreeningkubotu: remind rgreening to bug ScottK about uploading KDE 4.3 packages in 2 hours01:02
kuboturgreening, you don't have 'remind::other::about' permissions here01:02
rgreeningargh! apachelogger ^01:02
* ryanakca doesn't have them either :/01:02
rgreening:(01:02
rgreeningkubotu: chmod u+rwx rgreening01:03
rgreening:)01:03
* ryanakca thinks he should start pruning his irclogs... 2.8G :)01:03
rgreeningha01:03
rgreeningI have a mysql db with 50 million rows01:04
rgreeningthat's about 10G01:04
rgreeningactually, its probably more rows...01:04
rgreeningmore than I care to query01:04
ryanakcaWhat's that for?01:06
apacheloggerrgreening: remind me maybe?01:06
ryanakcas/that/it/01:06
apacheloggerwould seem logical :P01:06
ryanakcakubotu: remind me about kubotu reminding in 1 minute01:06
kubotusure01:06
ryanakcaHeh01:06
ryanakcaapachelogger: What happens if you have a guy called ``me'', can he not be reminded by others?01:07
apacheloggera guy called me must be very selfish anyway01:07
apacheloggerwell01:07
* apachelogger =>01:07
apacheloggerthat is a void in case you wondered :P01:08
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ryanakcaOh. I thought it was some wierd smiley face01:08
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JontheEchidnalol: [20:08:02] [Notice] -NickServ- This nickname is registered. Please choose a different nickname, or identify via /msg NickServ identify <password>.01:08
JontheEchidnaplasma-widget-makestatus dun work with pbuilder :(01:09
JontheEchidnayou have to run your cmake builds with /usr/bin/makeinvoker for it to work01:10
rgreeningkubotu: remind me to bug ScottK about uploading KDE 4.3 packages in 2 hours01:10
kubotuokay then :)01:10
rgreeningcool01:10
Riddellryanakca, rgreening: you're all prepared for UDS?01:10
rgreeningGetting there. U see the message I sent on kubuntu-devel01:10
Riddelloh aye.  I won't be about most of next week I'm afraid01:11
rgreeningthat's ok. plauable deniability :) for senior leader01:11
rgreening:P01:11
rgreeningplausable even01:11
rgreeningRiddell: I have some shopping to do this week.. get some summer garb... and a hair cut. other than that, ready.01:12
rgreeningand this time, I ain't volunteering for everyting under the sun.01:12
dtchenheh01:13
rgreeninglerned my lesson01:13
rgreening:)01:13
JontheEchidnalol01:13
dtchendon't worry, eventually you get volunteered whether you want to01:13
Riddellrgreening: ssh, don't say that, ryanakca will get suspicious when we volunteer him for everything01:13
JontheEchidnargreening: I was listening in on you guy's (quiet) conversation, and I was going "wow, I hope he can really do all that..."01:13
rgreeninghahaha01:13
JontheEchidnathey need better microphone placement at this UDS01:14
rgreeningI got through a bunch...01:14
rgreeningbut not enough.01:14
rgreeningThis release we need to really prioritize stuff. and work from the top.01:14
JontheEchidnawe got flash integrated with kpackagekit, though we might want to integrate it further with the restricted-extras functionality of update-notifier-kde this release01:14
rgreeningI'd like to see notifier go away and use the kpackagekit one.01:15
JontheEchidnaand call update-notifier-kde through dbus like we do for mp3 codecs and sesame201:15
JontheEchidnaactually we integrated it with install-package, iirc...01:15
JontheEchidnalol01:15
dtchenFlash and Skype, sigh. the banes of my existence (largely).01:15
Daskreech_Can we remove that you have done something Confirmation dialog box in kpackage-kit?01:16
Daskreech_ I really hate it01:16
ryanakcaRiddell: hehe, volunteered or voluntold?01:16
rgreeningI had a partially working patch for kpackagekit. but it needed some expert help. I couldn't get at the time01:16
rgreeningvoluntold01:16
rgreening:)01:16
JontheEchidnaoh yeah, you were working on an installer mode, weren't you01:16
ryanakcaRiddell: Will be, getting Kubuntu installed on my mum's laptop, mine is about to die on me :/01:16
rgreeningTonio__: o/01:17
Tonio__rgreening: yo !01:17
JontheEchidna: o/ <- looked like a weird smiley01:17
rgreeninghows my best friend in France doing :)01:17
Tonio__rgreening: back from the restaurant01:17
Tonio__about to go sleep :)01:17
Tonio__long day tomorrow searching for a decent new job :)01:17
rgreeningfood and sleep.. sounds inviting01:17
Tonio__rgreening: what about you ?01:18
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Tonio_pretty good evening I must say01:18
rgreeningTonio__: trying to wrangle kdepim into submission.01:18
rgreeningits being naughty01:18
rgreeningmust be taking after kdebindings01:18
Tonio_ah... :) not as fun as a restaurant but still pretty cool :)01:18
rgreeningIve been at it all day.01:19
Tonio_ouch....01:19
rgreeningits really getting to me01:19
rgreeningsoo many changes and breakage01:19
rgreeninghad to revert some changes wrt akonadi cause they forgot to revert before they tagged it.01:19
rgreeningbad beta :)01:20
JontheEchidnathey also found out that several mplayerthumbs changes were bunk after the tagged it, so I ended up just commenting it out in cmakelists.txt since we already have an external copy01:20
JontheEchidnabut! At least come beta2 or RC or whatever we will have one less source package to maintain01:21
rgreeningthe quality on this one is way down...01:21
JontheEchidnaimpossible. It has my weather wallpaper included :P01:21
rgreeningOMG.. kdepim is finally finished building. Now I get my list-missing.01:22
JontheEchidna3... 2... 1...01:22
rgreeningJontheEchidna: the weather is stormy01:22
JontheEchidnakubotu: remind rgreening to freeze his computer in 3 seconds01:22
kubotuJontheEchidna, you don't have 'remind::other::about' permissions here01:22
rgreeningshaddup you01:22
Daskreech_rgreening: What did she do now?01:22
rgreening:)01:22
rgreeninglol01:22
rgreeningI wanna watch some tv... but kde beta wont let me01:23
* JontheEchidna wonders when he will get a lightning storm so that he gets lightning wallpaper01:23
rgreeningstick finger in socket01:23
JontheEchidnawill BBC pick that up as weather? :P01:23
rgreeningno, but itll be funny.... for me01:24
Daskreech_JontheEchidna: You actually have a lightning mode?01:24
JontheEchidnaDaskreech_: yeah, all the weather modes that the Plasma weather dataengine provides are supported01:24
rgreeningJontheEchidna: I wont be able to run your weather app here in Newfoundland. It'll kill my CPU as the weather here changes every few minutes...01:25
JontheEchidnahehe01:25
rgreeningand it'll be constantly changing the pic01:25
rgreening:P01:25
rgreeningit'll get a complex01:25
* JontheEchidna can't resist mentioning that the update interval is configurable01:25
Daskreech_So instead you have a wallpaper slideshow set to 15 seconds ?01:25
rgreeningJontheEchidna: we need to write an AI plasmoid. have it learn as you talk to it.01:26
JontheEchidnathere is an openbrain plasmoid in playground01:26
rgreeningcall it skynet and have it able to communicate with other plasma AI applets01:26
JontheEchidnanot exactly a turing test winner, but...01:26
rgreeningheh01:27
JontheEchidnaOk, so the plugin supports: clear, partly cloudy, very cloudy, mist, lightning storm, hail, snow, partly cloudy at night, clear at night, and freezing rain01:28
rgreeningactually, it should be called omnibus or the evermind (for Dune fans).01:28
rgreeningcool01:28
rgreeningwheres the fog01:28
JontheEchidnathat might be mist01:28
rgreeningfog <> cloud <> mist01:28
rgreeningand for california, smog01:29
rgreening:P01:29
JontheEchidnalol01:29
rgreeningor in hollywood smug01:29
JontheEchidna-s +t01:29
rgreeningcourtesy southpark ^01:29
rgreeninglol01:29
JontheEchidnapr0n on the desktop01:29
Daskreech_You have different wallpapers for cloud and for mist?01:29
Daskreech_where are you getting these01:29
Daskreech_the Temp will be 25 degrees with light pr0n ?01:30
JontheEchidnakde-look and, where I can, existing wallpapers in kdeartwork01:30
JontheEchidnaVorian donated a  picture for freezing rain01:30
rgreening"feeling hot-hot-hot"01:30
JontheEchidnalol01:30
JontheEchidnaWe might have a wallpaper contest in the nearish future for weather wallpapers01:30
rgreeningIf you can get a fog mode, I'll get a fog pic01:30
rgreeningthick as soup01:31
Daskreech_JontheEchidna: Bringing up Ubuntu-calendar again ? :)01:31
JontheEchidnalol01:31
* Tonio_ gonna sleep01:32
rgreeningJontheEchidna: what we need is a consolidated bookmark applet that can read bookmarks from all configured sources (like FF, Konq, Arora, etc).01:32
Tonio_nite all :)01:32
rgreeningnn tomsdale01:32
rgreeningnn Tonio_01:32
JontheEchidnalol01:33
rgreeningstupid autocomplete...01:33
rgreening:>01:33
Tonio_:)01:33
rgreeningserious though on the bookmark thing01:33
JontheEchidnargreening: using konvi or quassi?01:33
rgreeningI hate not having access to bookmarks across apps01:33
rgreeningquas01:33
rgreeningand the applet should read and post to delicious if configured01:34
rgreeningthat would be cool01:34
rgreeningand then have a plugin for the browser to assess it01:34
rgreeningaccess even01:34
Daskreech_rgreening: across apps?01:37
Daskreech_you want kate to have the same bookmarks as Juk ?01:38
rgreeningbrowsers01:38
Daskreech_http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4559602&postcount=1202:08
JontheEchidnaRiddell: workspace (or, it's cmake) can't seem to find qedje when it compiles, we're just going to disable the plasma-scriptengine-qedje package this time around and fix edje or whatever later02:09
JontheEchidnadunno if you're still around, or if you could sponsor a package when I'm done fixing its edje-induced FTBFS in a bit02:10
JontheEchidnawow, there are a lot of new binary packages in workspace now02:13
rgreeningJontheEchidna: ScottK may be around.02:14
JontheEchidnaoh, the version isn't high enough02:17
JontheEchidnaso we need to backport qedje to the ppa02:18
JontheEchidnawhich means somebody should retry workspace in main02:19
rgreeningJontheEchidna: that's cool. put qedje into experimental PPA and see what happens. ScottK can upload then02:22
* JontheEchidna uploads qzion first02:22
rgreeningJontheEchidna: I almost have kdepim rdy to upload. last few list-missings...02:24
JontheEchidnanice02:25
JontheEchidnaif all else fails, at least we know how to build workspace in the ppa02:25
rgreeningjust hope i got the missings into correct places. there were 80+02:25
rgreeninglol02:25
JontheEchidnaeek02:25
JontheEchidnaqedje, qzion accepted02:26
JontheEchidnathough I should have waited for qzion to build first02:26
* JontheEchidna thinks something qedje-ish may be stuck in new queue02:28
JontheEchidnawhich would explain why it fails in an up-to-date pbuilder02:28
rgreeningheh02:29
* JontheEchidna sheds a single tear: https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/experimental/+build/103064002:35
astromme_laptopIs there a ppa with Amarok 2.1b2 hiding around anywhere that folks know of?02:42
Daskreech_I read that as edgy.launchpad.net for some reason02:47
Daskreech_Btw does having the network manager be a plasmoid mean that networking will be kinda 1/2 assed till login?03:02
rgreeningDaskreech_: no03:02
Daskreech_Any repercusions of it?03:02
rgreeningI believe wired picks up from NetworkManager prior to boot03:02
rgreeningsry, prior to login03:03
rgreeningand wireless requires login03:03
Daskreech_so wireless wouldn't03:03
rgreeningpretty sure03:03
rgreeningHobbsee: ping03:12
rgreeningneed a favor. can you look at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+queue?queue_state=0&queue_text=edje03:12
ScottKqedje is already in Main too03:45
ScottKSo it just needs binary New03:45
ScottKI can do that.03:45
JontheEchidnanice03:45
rgreeningyay03:47
ScottKActually I can't.  Sorry.03:47
ScottKIt's got binaries in Main and Universe and the web  U/I can't handle that.03:48
ScottKUrgh03:48
JontheEchidnadoor-knocking time?03:48
ScottKLet me think about this.03:49
rgreeningknock-knock-knockin on edje's door03:51
Daskreech_Who's there?03:51
ScottKI think I can, but it's a bit strange.03:51
ScottKIt's New on i386 and amd64 only03:51
ScottKI'm not going to rush this.  I need to go pick up kids and then I'll go through it.03:52
ScottKBack in a bit.03:54
ScottK~ an hour ....03:54
* ScottK returns04:49
* JontheEchidna prepares to upload one last kdebase-workspace that should compile04:50
ScottKrgreening and JontheEchidna: qedje New'ed.04:55
ScottKJust in time for a publisher run starting in 8 minutes04:55
ScottKrgreening: Did you coerce bindings into doing something useful?04:56
JontheEchidnaok, uploaded04:58
JontheEchidnasee ya'll tomorrow, I think we can finish up then04:58
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rgreeningScottK: **yawn** nope. I think I just need to get it to block building akonadi everywhere.05:08
ScottKrgreening: OK.  Well qedje is sorted, so that should help with making progress.05:08
rgreeningthanks.05:09
ScottKWhat else is ready for upload ?05:09
Daskreech1WHee Nepomuk has a word analysing thingygimmabob05:09
rgreeningkdetoys, kdebase05:09
rgreeningkdepim05:09
ScottKDaskreech1: I thought the only function of Nepomuk was to crash?05:09
ScottKrgreening: All from the PPA?05:09
Daskreech1wait you got it to start?05:10
rgreeningyeah. just remove the ~ppa05:10
ScottKDaskreech1: No, I keep having it cause build failures.05:10
Daskreech1build failures = fail05:10
ScottKThat was 4.1/4.2 though05:11
rgreeningScottK: and remove the ~ppa from kdegraphics in main05:11
ScottKRight.  I'll do that last.05:11
rgreeningScottK: so thats 4 packages I can thinks of.05:11
ScottKOK.05:11
ScottKNow that I'm not trying to beat a publisher run I'll get some alchohol and sit down and look at those.05:12
rgreeninghehe05:12
rgreeningScottK: is workspace going to need a push to build in main now that qdge thing is taken care of05:12
ScottKrgreening: I'll push it in half an hour after the publisher run is likely finished.05:13
rgreeningcool05:13
ScottKThey usually take 35 to 45 minutes05:13
ScottKBTW, the python bindings for qedje could use some work.  They aren't properly packaged for multiple python versions.05:16
ScottKSo how did kdeedu build on Karmic?05:20
ScottKDoesn't it need bindings?05:20
rgreeningbeats me05:28
rgreeningsomeone prob forgot to bump build deps05:28
rgreeningor commented it out...05:28
rgreeningRiddell uploaded it... so whatever magic he worked05:29
ScottKI notice python-marble is missing, so that's probably it.05:32
ScottK(commented out something)05:33
ScottKrgreening: I'm not going to complain you were insufficiently verbose in kdebase debian/changelog05:34
rgreeningha05:34
rgreeningI got less verbose in pim05:34
rgreeningyou can complain there :)05:35
ScottKheh.05:35
ScottKkdebase launched05:35
ScottKrgreening: No kdepim in PPA and kdetoys is all FTBFS?05:37
rgreeningkdetoys is dep wait on workspace. thats why05:37
rgreeningand what about kdepim?05:37
rgreeningkdepim - 4:4.2.85-0ubuntu1~ppa1 is built in ppa05:38
* ScottK stares a the web page again05:38
rgreening:)05:38
ScottKHelps if I refresh the browser page.05:39
rgreeninghah05:39
rgreeningso after those uploads, we still need to package kdebindings and plasma-addons05:48
ScottKOK, well I'll be too drunk to deal with those.05:49
rgreeningI'll try and take a look tomorrow...05:50
ScottKI should be around off and on to sponsor stuff05:53
ScottKSignature line from elsewhere makes me lol: "In America, anyone can grow up to be President. That's one of the risks we take."05:56
ScottKkdepim pitched05:56
rgreeninghahah05:57
ScottKkdetoys on the way.06:00
rgreeningcool. last one is fix kdegraphis ~ppa in main06:01
ScottKRight.  That's done too.06:02
ScottKI did make one change in kdepim.  I'll shove that into bzr06:02
rgreeningwhats the change06:05
ScottKakrogator was both recommended and suggested by kontact06:07
ScottKI went with recommended06:07
* ScottK refills the scotch in preparation for dealing with bzr06:07
rgreeningah cool06:08
ScottKrgreening: There's other stuff that wasn't in bzr yet for kdepim (I'll fix).  Please check the others.06:09
rgreening?06:10
rgreeningAll mine were pulled direct from bzr and my changes were committed back to bzr06:10
ScottKWell then me uploading from the PPA was a problem06:12
ScottKkdepim I uploaded has kubuntu_01_fix_sieve_hang_svn_915286.diff still06:12
rgreeningwtf06:12
ScottKcommented out in series though06:12
rgreeningI removed it06:12
rgreeningoh06:12
rgreeningthat's ok,06:12
ScottKIt should have been removed (it is in bzr), but not in the PPA06:13
rgreeningI prob forgot to delete it in the 50 times I redid it06:13
ScottKSo I'll make bzr match what i uploaded06:13
rgreeningsure thing06:13
ScottKDone, so you can fixor it even better for next time now.06:15
rgreeningIm going to have to go and recheck all the bzr stuff... Im wondering if the file deletions worked ... the PPA stuff is fine.06:17
ScottKbzr also didn't have some other stuff like switching to the qt phonon06:21
rgreeningScottK: I added that to bzr after06:25
ScottKOK06:25
rgreeningJontheEchidna suggested it was good to put in for next release/update06:26
rgreeningbut wasnt required at the moment06:26
ScottKWell it got reverted because what's in bzr matches what I uploaded right now.06:26
ScottKqedje for some reason isn't being accepted.  I've done some pings.06:27
ScottKSo no workspace for the moment.06:27
* ScottK has made rough measurements of his fatigue level, blood alcohol contect, and give a damn factor and decided it's time for bed.06:28
ScottKGood night.06:28
rgreeningnn06:28
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chris_hello11:25
chris_i have a problem running amarok 2.1 beta on kubuntu jaunty. i've already talked to the folks on #amarok and they suggest it might be a problem with phonon.11:26
chris_everytime i start amarok, it gives me this: http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/173539/11:27
chris_it seems that it's not able to load the xine backend to phonon. if i start as root, it will work11:27
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: makeinvoker needs a daemon part then13:52
apacheloggerclient talks to daemon about status, plasmoid talks to daemon about status13:52
apacheloggerthen again that might be a bit of an overhead ;-)13:52
Tonio_yoyoyo !14:10
smarterhey Tonio_14:13
Tonio_smarter: hey14:13
Tonio_smarter: you're a motu right ?14:15
smarteryep14:16
Tonio_smarter: hum, no forget that :) we'll wait for kde 4.3 ;)14:16
smarterwhat did you had in mind? :)14:16
Tonio_smarter: revuing a package, but it'll all be integrated to kde 4.3, so nevermind14:16
* Tonio_ just woke up and forgot about that :)14:16
smarteryou woke up at 3PM? :o14:17
apacheloggeropenoffice is one big fart15:22
* apachelogger ain't got no clue about how to make an icon theme15:22
Quintasanhiho15:53
Quintasanhttp://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/plasma-widget-pgame <-- anyone?15:53
Quintasanapachelogger: ^16:01
apacheloggerno16:02
ryanakcaQuintasan: Not sure if you're interested, but maybe try getting it uploaded to Debian too? a) They benefit from it, and b) your work doesn't go out the door whenever someone on their end packages it.16:02
apacheloggerI gotta digg through the openblob16:02
Quintasanryanakca: okay, I will try16:02
ryanakcaQuintasan: upload it http://mentors.debian.net ... and then ask around in either #debian-mentors or #debian-qt-kde on OFTC16:03
BUGabundohi16:40
BUGabundocan any ninja help me with force override so manage to install some packages?16:41
BUGabundohttp://paste.ubuntu.com/173720/16:41
Quintasanryanakca: while using reportbug System Informations: contains something like this: APT prefers jaunty-updates, is this okay?16:41
QuintasanBUGabundo: for help go to #kubuntu, this is development channel16:41
BUGabundook Quintasan...16:42
ryanakcaQuintasan: I've never bothered. You filing an ITP?16:42
ryanakca(never bothered removing it)16:42
QuintasanBUGabundo: there are no overwrites16:42
BUGabundojust that karmic is bit messy right now16:42
Quintasanryanakca: ITP, this package is small, I think making someone maintain such small package is useless16:42
BUGabundoQuintasan: no? so I cant force some versions until they are all built?16:42
ryanakcaQuintasan: OK, I'd just leave it.16:43
QuintasanBUGabundo:  you can TRY, dunno what will happen :316:43
Quintasanryanakca: ok, thanks16:43
BUGabundoQuintasan: care to help me destroy my system ?16:45
QuintasanBUGabundo: nope :P16:45
BUGabundoohh :p16:45
QuintasanBUGabundo: dpkg --force-help16:45
Quintasanffffuuuuu- this is confusing @_@16:47
Quintasanlooks like I will need sid pbuilder env16:52
ryanakcaljoin #ubuntu17:02
ryanakcaoops17:02
jjesseryanakca: did you and nixternal ever figure out help.kubuntu.org?17:11
nixternaljjesse: haven't worked on it much this past week unfortunately17:11
jjessebummer :(17:11
nixternalI just need to add some stuff to it (hours worth of work) and that's it17:11
ryanakcabeat me to it :)17:11
nixternalI will finish it up this weekend17:11
jjesseyay17:11
nixternaltoday is nice so it is warranting a bike ride17:11
jjesseits cool here17:11
ryanakcathundershowering here :/17:11
jjessewe had some storms last night17:12
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: backport makestatus?18:29
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: W: plasma-widget-makestatus: binary-without-manpage usr/bin/makeinvoker18:31
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: that binary seriously needs a manpage18:32
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: btw, technically it should be possible to make makeinvoker from a pbuilder chroot talk to dbus of the host system18:32
apacheloggerthen the chroot would just need to use makeinvoker instead of make18:33
apacheloggerwhich is a less simple task I suppose :P18:33
apacheloggerhm18:39
JontheEchidnaoy vey: http://paste.ubuntu.com/173797/19:09
apacheloggerall borked19:12
apacheloggerneversfelde: daisy still not fine19:12
apacheloggerplus I wonder how that issue slipped our tight reviews19:12
neversfeldeapachelogger: mhh, I will have a look19:13
apacheloggerthat at least worridd me for 0.3 seconds, that is a lot of worrying for saturday really19:13
apacheloggeruh19:13
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: panelspacer is in KDE trunk isn't it?19:13
apacheloggerlike, by default?19:13
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: yus19:15
* apachelogger rejects http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/plasma-widget-panelspacer then19:15
JontheEchidnammhm, new kdelibs stuff is starting to leak into my sessionz19:19
neversfeldegnah, I send the daisy dude an lgpl copy. Probably it was changed again in one of the last 4 releases in 4 days :)19:19
apacheloggerrelease early, release often, release broken19:19
apacheloggerpublish or perish is still my fav release policy19:20
apacheloggercanonical seems to go with that most of the time as well :)19:20
ScottKSpeaking of broken, anyone fix -workspace yet?19:58
JontheEchidnaworkspace should just need a rebuild in main if edje is all straightened out19:59
ScottKWell it was depwait on it before then it FTBFS.19:59
JontheEchidnathe FTBFS came from trying to install the nonexistant edje plugin, iirc19:59
ScottKI see.  I'll retry then.20:01
JontheEchidnakdelibs, kdebase-runtime, and kdepim are all sorted out in bzr install-conflict wise, as far as my testing could find issues20:03
ScottKDo we need new uploads for them?20:08
JontheEchidnaScottK: yeah, we probably should before we get a ton of bug reports20:22
JontheEchidnaworkspace too, now20:23
ScottKAnyone fix bindings yet?20:24
_Simethe bindings freeze is in 5 weeks.20:26
ScottKWell we kind of need one now.20:27
JontheEchidnanot really20:28
JontheEchidnaeverything at least builds without it except for the marble bindings20:28
_SimeScottK: why?20:29
JontheEchidnaanywho, kdemultimedia fixed in bzr20:29
ScottK_Sime: Because we're trying to get the 4.3 beta packaged and a number of other packages depend on it.20:29
JontheEchidna^Those packages build fine even with the old bindings, except for the marble bindings patch we had20:30
ScottKOK.20:30
ScottKNevermind then20:30
_SimeScottK: most of the Python bindings have been updated now.20:31
ScottKAnd the python-marble thing got dropped for now20:31
_SimeScottK: I've been working hard on them this week.20:31
_SimeScottK: next stop is updating the marble bindings once I have kdeedu etc building from trunk.20:31
ScottKJontheEchidna: Maybe we want to do a post-beta snapshot of bindings one marble is updated.20:32
_SimeScottK: i'm having buliding troubles here. missing deps.20:32
ScottKI know that feeling20:32
JontheEchidnaergh, missed some for -workspace20:32
_Simewhen is the next beta due?20:32
ScottKJune 2.20:35
_Simecool kdebase worked finally.20:36
Sputbindings wasn't even released with beta1, was it?20:41
_Simedon't think so.20:41
ScottKAnd it looks like we can muddle through that OK.20:42
JontheEchidnaok, -workspace should be good for upload in bzr with all known issues fixed20:45
vishalraowooo karmic kde desktop going to be fixed soon?! :)20:49
ScottKLet's see if the current one builds first20:49
ScottKJontheEchidna: So multimedia for now and -workspace after we know it build.  What else?20:49
JontheEchidnakde4libs and kdebase-runtime20:51
JontheEchidnakdeutils20:52
JontheEchidnaand kdesdk20:52
ScottKUrgh.20:52
ScottKOK.20:52
JontheEchidnayeah, a lot of this stuff is due to the merge, where debian shuffled stuff around earlier than us20:52
JontheEchidnaoh, kdepim too20:53
JontheEchidna..and kdenetwork is the last20:53
JontheEchidnaso, half the stack :/20:53
* ScottK gives Riddell a long distance thwack for dropping our VCS headers from kde4libs.20:54
JontheEchidna~order brain for JontheEchidna20:54
JontheEchidnaaaaah, not kubotu20:54
JontheEchidnas/not/no20:54
* JontheEchidna does the hugest dpkg -i --force-overwrite command ever21:02
ScottKheh.21:03
ScottKAnyone got anything else for kde4libs before I pitch it at the buildds?21:03
* ScottK lol's at #amarok21:04
neversfeldehehe21:05
ScottK(hey, I just rm -rf my config directory - anyway to get stuff back)21:05
ScottKOK, libs tossed over the fence.21:07
* JontheEchidna packages kdeplasma-addons, the last of beta121:10
JontheEchidnaRiddell forgot to bzr add the patch again :(21:11
ScottK\o/ -workspace built on lpia, so that's a good sign.21:13
ScottKDo you have the patch?21:14
JontheEchidnait was uploaded to the archive thankfully21:15
ScottKGood21:15
ScottK-runtime done21:24
JontheEchidnanow that kdebase is done in the ppa, I get to deal with that too21:29
ScottKOK.  Well -workspace built on i386 and amd64 so I think all we lack for being done on the first time around for the beta is plasma-addons21:30
ScottKIs that right?21:30
JontheEchidnacorrect21:31
neversfeldeI love that new logout dialog and the kubuntu|kde button in kickoff ;)21:32
neversfeldethe button is new, isn't it?21:32
JontheEchidnakubuntu|kde was supposed to be there, but it broke in kde 4.221:32
JontheEchidnaor, rather, some point during kde 4.221:33
neversfeldeah21:33
neversfeldeso I enjoy it now :)21:34
ScottKJontheEchidna: kdemultimedia doesn't have anything newer in bzr than what's uploaded.21:34
JontheEchidnahmm21:34
JontheEchidnaScottK: pushed21:35
* ScottK checks again21:35
ScottKGot it21:38
ScottKLaunched21:42
JontheEchidnagreat, kde-icons-oxygen and libkdepim4 both contain the same icon21:46
* JontheEchidna seems to remember this happening last release too21:46
JontheEchidnaScottK: you might wanna hold up on kdepim if you haven't uploaded it yet21:47
ScottKOK21:47
ScottKI was going to do that next, but  I guess not.21:48
ScottKsdk then21:48
JontheEchidnaI just pushed a fixed kdepim, so you should be able to get to that by the time sdk is finished building21:50
ScottKsdk done.21:56
ScottKTrue confessions time: I'm not test building these since it's just conflicts changes.21:56
JontheEchidname either, if you couldn't tell by the way I spit all of those in bzr ;-)21:57
ScottKSo far so good.21:57
JontheEchidnakdebase is fixed (to the best of my knowledge) in bzr21:58
ScottKNothing like looking in the inbox after a bunch of uploads and seeing a stack of build failure mails (fortunately all from the PPA)22:04
JontheEchidnahrm, do I retry kdemultimedia on amd64 or just reupload it?22:06
ScottKI just uploaded one of those?22:10
JontheEchidnaI'm talking about the PPA22:11
ScottKOh.22:11
ScottKMaybe NCommander is around to rescore it for you?22:11
* NCommander coughs22:11
NCommanderWhy do we need a rescore?22:12
* ScottK gives rgreening a virtual slap for failure to document bzr changes in debian/changelog22:12
ScottKJontheEchidna: ^^^22:12
* NCommander notes that all archive rebuild builds are currently Build Socre 0, your build will go before they will22:12
ScottKNCommander: Retries are also 022:12
ScottKSo not in this case.22:12
NCommanderOh, its a retry?22:12
NCommanderLink to build record please22:12
ScottKYeah.22:12
NCommanderI'll bump it22:12
ScottKJontheEchidna: ^^^22:12
JontheEchidnaok, just a second22:13
JontheEchidnalunchpad is being slow22:13
NCommanderJontheEchidna, you say that like its news22:14
JontheEchidnaNCommander: https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/experimental/+build/103161022:14
JontheEchidnaheh22:14
NCommanderJontheEchidna, rescored to 500022:14
JontheEchidnathanks22:15
* NCommander finds he does more PPA rescores then main archive22:15
NCommanderwhich is annoying cause buildd won't work in PPAs ;.;22:16
ScottKJontheEchidna: How's plasma-addons going?22:17
JontheEchidnachugging along, cmake's almost done22:17
ScottKOK22:17
JontheEchidnasorting out .install file changes now22:24
ScottKpim uploaded22:26
ScottKJontheEchidna: BTW, if there are post-upload changes already on bzr, it's not a bad idea to make sure they get reflected in debian/changelog22:27
* ScottK thinks utils, -workspace, and network left.22:28
ScottKNCommander: Would you please rescore kdeedu on amd64 (archive, not PPA)?22:30
NCommanderScottK, done22:31
ScottKNCommander: Thanks.22:31
seele_i know i asked this before but i forgot.. how do i change video drives from the one that got shipped in jaunty?22:40
ScottKseele: Intel?22:46
seele_ScottK: yeah.. i found this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReinhardTartler/X/RevertingIntelDriverTo2.422:47
ScottKThat's one option.22:47
seele_(just updated another laptop, figures it had intel hardware on it too)22:47
seele_huh.. well i hope it works.. my patience is waning22:47
seele_i hate when stuff that used to work breaks22:47
ScottKThere's a simpler approach that may work.22:47
seele_hmm.. let me try this one real quick, brb22:48
ScottKseele: See the migration heuristic bit in my xorg.conf: http://pastebin.com/f4b5ca2c4 I'd try that first22:49
neomantrahmm.. that looks like it worked for the video problem i was having22:51
neomantraack22:51
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seele__^^ heh22:51
ScottKkdenetwork done22:54
seeleargh22:57
ScottKJontheEchidna: What's wrong with this picture: +Replaces: superkaramba-kde4. superkaramba22:57
ScottKI'll fix it.22:57
JontheEchidnaoops22:58
seeleScottK: are you using that config with the old or new driver?22:59
ScottKseele: New (as in what shipped with Jaunty)22:59
ScottKutils done23:03
seeleargh, that didnt work either23:07
seelemotherfucker, now i've got to reinstall intrepid23:07
ScottKseele: One more option23:08
ScottKThere is an ubuntu-x PPA that has newer Intel stuff.23:08
ScottKYou might try that first.23:09
seeleScottK: ubuntu-x? or do you mean a personal ppa?23:09
* smarter downgraded xorg, xserver, mesa and libdrm to intrepid to get a usable system on one of his computer :/23:09
ScottKJontheEchidna: Why did you change the build dep on pkg-kde-tools (>= 0.4) from 0.4.2 (and why isn't it in debian/changelog)?23:09
JontheEchidnaScottK: which package?23:10
ScottKJontheEchidna: -workspace23:10
JontheEchidnathat probably happened when I copied over the control file from the jaunty backport23:10
ScottKOK.  I'll put it back the way it was.23:10
smarterseele: you could try that: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates/23:10
smarteraka recent-but-not-too-bleeding-edge23:11
seelesmarter: ok, thanks23:11
ScottKYeah, that's the one I was thinking of.23:12
* seele upgrades and crosses fingers23:14
ScottKJontheEchidna: What boost version are we using right now?23:15
ScottKIs it still 1.35?23:15
ScottKBecause workspace build-dep on libboost-dev23:16
JontheEchidnayeah, still 1.3523:16
ScottKOK.  I'll fix that too.23:19
ScottKNo idea how the last one built since libboost-dev is in Universe23:20
ScottKI know how ....23:22
seeleargh23:22
ScottKlibboost1.35-dev provides libboost-dev23:22
seelewere there any reported problems with the flash plugin?23:23
ScottKI have some occasional trouble with it sucking up 100% of CPU23:24
seelehum, no this is a video playback problem23:24
ScottK-workspace uploaded23:27
ScottKJontheEchidna: Are there any other uploads I owe you?23:27
JontheEchidnaScottK: kdebase is ready23:30
ScottKOK.  Let me have a look23:30
ScottKJontheEchidna: You didn't update your bzr before you started.  You clobbered some changes from rgreening.23:38
JontheEchidnaI did, I think rgreening may have committed changes after I started, though23:40
ScottKWell his were comitted last night ....23:40
_Groo_hi/2 all23:40
JontheEchidnaweird, I removed the whole dir and re-pulled23:40
_Groo_apachelogger: JontheEchidnaare you on?23:41
_Groo_hi JontheEchidna23:41
JontheEchidnahi23:41
* ScottK repairs ...23:41
* JontheEchidna sends kdeplasma-addons for a final build23:41
_Groo_JontheEchidna: john is amarok 2.1 beta2 in the works? i tried to build it myself (like i do countless times), but this time i couldnt.. something is wrong in kubuntu, i think the embedded mysql pacthes that are in experimental 2.0.90 dont work anymore23:42
_Groo_JontheEchidna: kde 4.3 OO?23:42
ScottK_Groo_: 4.3 beta 1 (4.2.85)23:44
JontheEchidnayeah, we're working on 4.323:44
_Groo_ppa please? oO :D23:44
* _Groo_ wants!23:44
harolddong4.3 looks really sweet23:45
_Groo_if you guys are too busy i can try to fix the amarok 2.1 beta 2 build..23:45
_Groo_harolddong: groo knows... :P23:45
JontheEchidnaActually, we could probably use some more installation testing: https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/experimental23:45
JontheEchidnaeverything except kdeedu and kdeplasma-addons should be available for jaunty by now23:46
JontheEchidnaand hopefully in a somewhat installable state ^_^23:46
_Groo_ok, testing :G23:47
apacheloggerhopefully? Oo23:47
apacheloggeroh dear23:47
_Groo_hi apachelogger23:48
apacheloggeryo23:48
ScottKI think edu is available for i386, just not amd64 (building now)23:48
JontheEchidnaI never backported edu to the PPA, though :P23:49
_Groo_apachelogger: ie used your diff to build amarok 2.1 beta 2 (i was using my own till then to build qtscript and taglibs, but since you are the man :P)... but beta2 is broken with them, after the build it segfaults when called23:49
apacheloggerdidn't JontheEchidna build a package already?23:49
* apachelogger seems to remember that there were problems of some sort :P23:50
JontheEchidnaI never got it to work then we got busy with kde23:50
apacheloggerah23:50
apachelogger_Groo_: JontheEchidna had the same problem23:50
apachelogger_Groo_: feel free to fix23:50
_Groo_apachelogger: it was working with my own pacthes... i believe its a problem with mysqle23:50
apacheloggermine and upstream's guess is that one of our weird mysql patches is the root of the problem23:50
_Groo_apachelogger: yep, it appears so23:50
apacheloggerso I would remove patch by patch and try after each to track the evil boy23:51
_Groo_apachelogger: i still didnt pinpoint which one exactly because im a little busy bugfixing radeon for dri223:51
apacheloggerthough, IIRC, none of them were documented properly in the changelog which would make me remove all of them for good :P23:51
_Groo_apachelogger: thats what im gonna do, but im going to actual READ the patches and based on my vast experience try to guess which ones might be breaking it.. after i fail (and i WILL fail), then i will disable one by one :D23:52
apacheloggerhm23:52
_Groo_the upgrade is telling me it will old back kdebase.. it this normal?23:53
apacheloggerreading the patches would mean knowing mysql :P23:53
apacheloggerbut if feel that this is the more efficient way...23:53
ScottKOK kdebase done23:53
_Groo_http://pastebin.ca/142498023:53
_Groo_apachelogger: i know a little of mysql23:54
apacheloggerok :)23:54
JontheEchidnaaww, riddell un-lzma'd workspace :(23:57
JontheEchidnaprobably just a bum merge23:58
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: do we still need the pre-depends?23:58
JontheEchidnanope, soyuz got fixed to not require that insanity23:58
apacheloggerwell23:58
apacheloggeradd the appropriate magic to the .mk file23:58
_Groo_well guys, is the kdebase kepting back normal?23:59
apacheloggerI suppose there is no real rationale for not using it across all KDE packages23:59
apacheloggercompression might be way slower and resource draining than gzip but the decompression is around the same speed and requirements23:59
JontheEchidna_Groo_: it's being kept back in a dist-upgrade?23:59

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