=== siekaczx is now known as siekacz [00:19] Nightrose: ping [00:20] Daskreech_: pong [00:20] Nightrose: the Kubuntu-experimental repo would have the Beta 2 packages? [00:20] nope :/ [00:21] still not packaged afaik [00:21] its a work in progress. [00:21] They will be there though? [00:21] Daskreech_: yep [00:21] ok [00:21] it's partially built and partially backported [00:21] bindings is broken badly. [00:22] * Daskreech_ skips off into the dusK [00:23] rgreening: he's talking about amarok btw [00:24] (not sure if you are too) [00:24] oh. oops. doh [00:24] Ah, but same applies [00:25] * rgreening is brain dead [00:25] ;-) [00:25] Nightrose: been working on kde 4.3 all day [00:25] * Nightrose hands rgreening a cookie and bribes him into having a look at amarok [00:25] kdepim and bindings are being naughty [00:25] :/ [00:26] Ive got my hands full at the moment... [00:26] trying to get kde 4.3 beta out [00:26] Nightrose: you going to UDS [00:26] nope :/ [00:26] How is Beta 1 looking for Koala? [00:26] ah [00:26] It's partially uploaded. [00:27] and partially backport to jaunty [00:27] JontheEchidna: has been a mad dog with back porting === kwwii is now known as kwwii_ [00:27] +1 JontheEchidna === kwwii_ is now known as kwwii [00:27] ^_^ [00:30] Still in the build queue? [00:32] workspace is still fscked up the arse [00:34] fsck -s ? [00:35] s/s/u [00:40] but that ruins the whole joke :( [00:43] http://identi.ca/notice/4285328 [00:55] _Sime: kdeedu python bindings need an update [00:58] Riddell: hey [00:58] remind me to go to spain in six hours [00:58] lol [00:58] haha [00:59] ti quero taco bell [00:59] kubotu: remind Riddell about going to spain in 6 hours [00:59] aight [01:02] kubotu: remind rgreening to bug ScottK about uploading KDE 4.3 packages in 2 hours [01:02] rgreening, you don't have 'remind::other::about' permissions here [01:02] argh! apachelogger ^ [01:02] * ryanakca doesn't have them either :/ [01:02] :( [01:03] kubotu: chmod u+rwx rgreening [01:03] :) [01:03] * ryanakca thinks he should start pruning his irclogs... 2.8G :) [01:03] ha [01:04] I have a mysql db with 50 million rows [01:04] that's about 10G [01:04] actually, its probably more rows... [01:04] more than I care to query [01:06] What's that for? [01:06] rgreening: remind me maybe? [01:06] s/that/it/ [01:06] would seem logical :P [01:06] kubotu: remind me about kubotu reminding in 1 minute [01:06] sure [01:06] Heh [01:07] apachelogger: What happens if you have a guy called ``me'', can he not be reminded by others? [01:07] a guy called me must be very selfish anyway [01:07] well [01:07] * apachelogger => [01:08] that is a void in case you wondered :P === JontheEchidna is now known as me [01:08] Oh. I thought it was some wierd smiley face === me is now known as JontheEchidna [01:08] lol: [20:08:02] [Notice] -NickServ- This nickname is registered. Please choose a different nickname, or identify via /msg NickServ identify . [01:09] plasma-widget-makestatus dun work with pbuilder :( [01:10] you have to run your cmake builds with /usr/bin/makeinvoker for it to work [01:10] kubotu: remind me to bug ScottK about uploading KDE 4.3 packages in 2 hours [01:10] okay then :) [01:10] cool [01:10] ryanakca, rgreening: you're all prepared for UDS? [01:10] Getting there. U see the message I sent on kubuntu-devel [01:11] oh aye. I won't be about most of next week I'm afraid [01:11] that's ok. plauable deniability :) for senior leader [01:11] :P [01:11] plausable even [01:12] Riddell: I have some shopping to do this week.. get some summer garb... and a hair cut. other than that, ready. [01:12] and this time, I ain't volunteering for everyting under the sun. [01:13] heh [01:13] lerned my lesson [01:13] :) [01:13] lol [01:13] don't worry, eventually you get volunteered whether you want to [01:13] rgreening: ssh, don't say that, ryanakca will get suspicious when we volunteer him for everything [01:13] rgreening: I was listening in on you guy's (quiet) conversation, and I was going "wow, I hope he can really do all that..." [01:13] hahaha [01:14] they need better microphone placement at this UDS [01:14] I got through a bunch... [01:14] but not enough. [01:14] This release we need to really prioritize stuff. and work from the top. [01:14] we got flash integrated with kpackagekit, though we might want to integrate it further with the restricted-extras functionality of update-notifier-kde this release [01:15] I'd like to see notifier go away and use the kpackagekit one. [01:15] and call update-notifier-kde through dbus like we do for mp3 codecs and sesame2 [01:15] actually we integrated it with install-package, iirc... [01:15] lol [01:15] Flash and Skype, sigh. the banes of my existence (largely). [01:16] Can we remove that you have done something Confirmation dialog box in kpackage-kit? [01:16] I really hate it [01:16] Riddell: hehe, volunteered or voluntold? [01:16] I had a partially working patch for kpackagekit. but it needed some expert help. I couldn't get at the time [01:16] voluntold [01:16] :) [01:16] oh yeah, you were working on an installer mode, weren't you [01:16] Riddell: Will be, getting Kubuntu installed on my mum's laptop, mine is about to die on me :/ [01:17] Tonio__: o/ [01:17] rgreening: yo ! [01:17] : o/ <- looked like a weird smiley [01:17] hows my best friend in France doing :) [01:17] rgreening: back from the restaurant [01:17] about to go sleep :) [01:17] long day tomorrow searching for a decent new job :) [01:17] food and sleep.. sounds inviting [01:18] rgreening: what about you ? === Tonio__ is now known as Tonio_ [01:18] pretty good evening I must say [01:18] Tonio__: trying to wrangle kdepim into submission. [01:18] its being naughty [01:18] must be taking after kdebindings [01:18] ah... :) not as fun as a restaurant but still pretty cool :) [01:19] Ive been at it all day. [01:19] ouch.... [01:19] its really getting to me [01:19] soo many changes and breakage [01:19] had to revert some changes wrt akonadi cause they forgot to revert before they tagged it. [01:20] bad beta :) [01:20] they also found out that several mplayerthumbs changes were bunk after the tagged it, so I ended up just commenting it out in cmakelists.txt since we already have an external copy [01:21] but! At least come beta2 or RC or whatever we will have one less source package to maintain [01:21] the quality on this one is way down... [01:21] impossible. It has my weather wallpaper included :P [01:22] OMG.. kdepim is finally finished building. Now I get my list-missing. [01:22] 3... 2... 1... [01:22] JontheEchidna: the weather is stormy [01:22] kubotu: remind rgreening to freeze his computer in 3 seconds [01:22] JontheEchidna, you don't have 'remind::other::about' permissions here [01:22] shaddup you [01:22] rgreening: What did she do now? [01:22] :) [01:22] lol [01:23] I wanna watch some tv... but kde beta wont let me [01:23] * JontheEchidna wonders when he will get a lightning storm so that he gets lightning wallpaper [01:23] stick finger in socket [01:23] will BBC pick that up as weather? :P [01:24] no, but itll be funny.... for me [01:24] JontheEchidna: You actually have a lightning mode? [01:24] Daskreech_: yeah, all the weather modes that the Plasma weather dataengine provides are supported [01:25] JontheEchidna: I wont be able to run your weather app here in Newfoundland. It'll kill my CPU as the weather here changes every few minutes... [01:25] hehe [01:25] and it'll be constantly changing the pic [01:25] :P [01:25] it'll get a complex [01:25] * JontheEchidna can't resist mentioning that the update interval is configurable [01:25] So instead you have a wallpaper slideshow set to 15 seconds ? [01:26] JontheEchidna: we need to write an AI plasmoid. have it learn as you talk to it. [01:26] there is an openbrain plasmoid in playground [01:26] call it skynet and have it able to communicate with other plasma AI applets [01:26] not exactly a turing test winner, but... [01:27] heh [01:28] Ok, so the plugin supports: clear, partly cloudy, very cloudy, mist, lightning storm, hail, snow, partly cloudy at night, clear at night, and freezing rain [01:28] actually, it should be called omnibus or the evermind (for Dune fans). [01:28] cool [01:28] wheres the fog [01:28] that might be mist [01:28] fog <> cloud <> mist [01:29] and for california, smog [01:29] :P [01:29] lol [01:29] or in hollywood smug [01:29] -s +t [01:29] courtesy southpark ^ [01:29] lol [01:29] pr0n on the desktop [01:29] You have different wallpapers for cloud and for mist? [01:29] where are you getting these [01:30] the Temp will be 25 degrees with light pr0n ? [01:30] kde-look and, where I can, existing wallpapers in kdeartwork [01:30] Vorian donated a picture for freezing rain [01:30] "feeling hot-hot-hot" [01:30] lol [01:30] We might have a wallpaper contest in the nearish future for weather wallpapers [01:30] If you can get a fog mode, I'll get a fog pic [01:31] thick as soup [01:31] JontheEchidna: Bringing up Ubuntu-calendar again ? :) [01:31] lol [01:32] * Tonio_ gonna sleep [01:32] JontheEchidna: what we need is a consolidated bookmark applet that can read bookmarks from all configured sources (like FF, Konq, Arora, etc). [01:32] nite all :) [01:32] nn tomsdale [01:32] nn Tonio_ [01:33] lol [01:33] stupid autocomplete... [01:33] :> [01:33] :) [01:33] serious though on the bookmark thing [01:33] rgreening: using konvi or quassi? [01:33] I hate not having access to bookmarks across apps [01:33] quas [01:34] and the applet should read and post to delicious if configured [01:34] that would be cool [01:34] and then have a plugin for the browser to assess it [01:34] access even [01:37] rgreening: across apps? [01:38] you want kate to have the same bookmarks as Juk ? [01:38] browsers [02:08] http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4559602&postcount=12 [02:09] Riddell: workspace (or, it's cmake) can't seem to find qedje when it compiles, we're just going to disable the plasma-scriptengine-qedje package this time around and fix edje or whatever later [02:10] dunno if you're still around, or if you could sponsor a package when I'm done fixing its edje-induced FTBFS in a bit [02:13] wow, there are a lot of new binary packages in workspace now [02:14] JontheEchidna: ScottK may be around. [02:17] oh, the version isn't high enough [02:18] so we need to backport qedje to the ppa [02:19] which means somebody should retry workspace in main [02:22] JontheEchidna: that's cool. put qedje into experimental PPA and see what happens. ScottK can upload then [02:22] * JontheEchidna uploads qzion first [02:24] JontheEchidna: I almost have kdepim rdy to upload. last few list-missings... [02:25] nice [02:25] if all else fails, at least we know how to build workspace in the ppa [02:25] just hope i got the missings into correct places. there were 80+ [02:25] lol [02:25] eek [02:26] qedje, qzion accepted [02:26] though I should have waited for qzion to build first [02:28] * JontheEchidna thinks something qedje-ish may be stuck in new queue [02:28] which would explain why it fails in an up-to-date pbuilder [02:29] heh [02:35] * JontheEchidna sheds a single tear: https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/experimental/+build/1030640 [02:42] Is there a ppa with Amarok 2.1b2 hiding around anywhere that folks know of? [02:47] I read that as edgy.launchpad.net for some reason [03:02] Btw does having the network manager be a plasmoid mean that networking will be kinda 1/2 assed till login? [03:02] Daskreech_: no [03:02] Any repercusions of it? [03:02] I believe wired picks up from NetworkManager prior to boot [03:03] sry, prior to login [03:03] and wireless requires login [03:03] so wireless wouldn't [03:03] pretty sure [03:12] Hobbsee: ping [03:12] need a favor. can you look at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+queue?queue_state=0&queue_text=edje [03:45] qedje is already in Main too [03:45] So it just needs binary New [03:45] I can do that. [03:45] nice [03:47] yay [03:47] Actually I can't. Sorry. [03:48] It's got binaries in Main and Universe and the web U/I can't handle that. [03:48] Urgh [03:48] door-knocking time? [03:49] Let me think about this. [03:51] knock-knock-knockin on edje's door [03:51] Who's there? [03:51] I think I can, but it's a bit strange. [03:51] It's New on i386 and amd64 only [03:52] I'm not going to rush this. I need to go pick up kids and then I'll go through it. [03:54] Back in a bit. [03:54] ~ an hour .... [04:49] * ScottK returns [04:50] * JontheEchidna prepares to upload one last kdebase-workspace that should compile [04:55] rgreening and JontheEchidna: qedje New'ed. [04:55] Just in time for a publisher run starting in 8 minutes [04:56] rgreening: Did you coerce bindings into doing something useful? [04:58] ok, uploaded [04:58] see ya'll tomorrow, I think we can finish up then === k4v is now known as m4v [05:08] ScottK: **yawn** nope. I think I just need to get it to block building akonadi everywhere. [05:08] rgreening: OK. Well qedje is sorted, so that should help with making progress. [05:09] thanks. [05:09] What else is ready for upload ? [05:09] WHee Nepomuk has a word analysing thingygimmabob [05:09] kdetoys, kdebase [05:09] kdepim [05:09] Daskreech1: I thought the only function of Nepomuk was to crash? [05:09] rgreening: All from the PPA? [05:10] wait you got it to start? [05:10] yeah. just remove the ~ppa [05:10] Daskreech1: No, I keep having it cause build failures. [05:10] build failures = fail [05:11] That was 4.1/4.2 though [05:11] ScottK: and remove the ~ppa from kdegraphics in main [05:11] Right. I'll do that last. [05:11] ScottK: so thats 4 packages I can thinks of. [05:11] OK. [05:12] Now that I'm not trying to beat a publisher run I'll get some alchohol and sit down and look at those. [05:12] hehe [05:12] ScottK: is workspace going to need a push to build in main now that qdge thing is taken care of [05:13] rgreening: I'll push it in half an hour after the publisher run is likely finished. [05:13] cool [05:13] They usually take 35 to 45 minutes [05:16] BTW, the python bindings for qedje could use some work. They aren't properly packaged for multiple python versions. [05:20] So how did kdeedu build on Karmic? [05:20] Doesn't it need bindings? [05:28] beats me [05:28] someone prob forgot to bump build deps [05:28] or commented it out... [05:29] Riddell uploaded it... so whatever magic he worked [05:32] I notice python-marble is missing, so that's probably it. [05:33] (commented out something) [05:34] rgreening: I'm not going to complain you were insufficiently verbose in kdebase debian/changelog [05:34] ha [05:34] I got less verbose in pim [05:35] you can complain there :) [05:35] heh. [05:35] kdebase launched [05:37] rgreening: No kdepim in PPA and kdetoys is all FTBFS? [05:37] kdetoys is dep wait on workspace. thats why [05:37] and what about kdepim? [05:38] kdepim - 4:4.2.85-0ubuntu1~ppa1 is built in ppa [05:38] * ScottK stares a the web page again [05:38] :) [05:39] Helps if I refresh the browser page. [05:39] hah [05:48] so after those uploads, we still need to package kdebindings and plasma-addons [05:49] OK, well I'll be too drunk to deal with those. [05:50] I'll try and take a look tomorrow... [05:53] I should be around off and on to sponsor stuff [05:56] Signature line from elsewhere makes me lol: "In America, anyone can grow up to be President. That's one of the risks we take." [05:56] kdepim pitched [05:57] hahah [06:00] kdetoys on the way. [06:01] cool. last one is fix kdegraphis ~ppa in main [06:02] Right. That's done too. [06:02] I did make one change in kdepim. I'll shove that into bzr [06:05] whats the change [06:07] akrogator was both recommended and suggested by kontact [06:07] I went with recommended [06:07] * ScottK refills the scotch in preparation for dealing with bzr [06:08] ah cool [06:09] rgreening: There's other stuff that wasn't in bzr yet for kdepim (I'll fix). Please check the others. [06:10] ? [06:10] All mine were pulled direct from bzr and my changes were committed back to bzr [06:12] Well then me uploading from the PPA was a problem [06:12] kdepim I uploaded has kubuntu_01_fix_sieve_hang_svn_915286.diff still [06:12] wtf [06:12] commented out in series though [06:12] I removed it [06:12] oh [06:12] that's ok, [06:13] It should have been removed (it is in bzr), but not in the PPA [06:13] I prob forgot to delete it in the 50 times I redid it [06:13] So I'll make bzr match what i uploaded [06:13] sure thing [06:15] Done, so you can fixor it even better for next time now. [06:17] Im going to have to go and recheck all the bzr stuff... Im wondering if the file deletions worked ... the PPA stuff is fine. [06:21] bzr also didn't have some other stuff like switching to the qt phonon [06:25] ScottK: I added that to bzr after [06:25] OK [06:26] JontheEchidna suggested it was good to put in for next release/update [06:26] but wasnt required at the moment [06:26] Well it got reverted because what's in bzr matches what I uploaded right now. [06:27] qedje for some reason isn't being accepted. I've done some pings. [06:27] So no workspace for the moment. [06:28] * ScottK has made rough measurements of his fatigue level, blood alcohol contect, and give a damn factor and decided it's time for bed. [06:28] Good night. [06:28] nn === bdgraue_ is now known as bdgraue === sabdfl1 is now known as sabdfl === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [11:25] hello [11:26] i have a problem running amarok 2.1 beta on kubuntu jaunty. i've already talked to the folks on #amarok and they suggest it might be a problem with phonon. [11:27] everytime i start amarok, it gives me this: http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/173539/ [11:27] it seems that it's not able to load the xine backend to phonon. if i start as root, it will work [13:52] JontheEchidna: makeinvoker needs a daemon part then [13:52] client talks to daemon about status, plasmoid talks to daemon about status [13:52] then again that might be a bit of an overhead ;-) [14:10] yoyoyo ! [14:13] hey Tonio_ [14:13] smarter: hey [14:15] smarter: you're a motu right ? [14:16] yep [14:16] smarter: hum, no forget that :) we'll wait for kde 4.3 ;) [14:16] what did you had in mind? :) [14:16] smarter: revuing a package, but it'll all be integrated to kde 4.3, so nevermind [14:16] * Tonio_ just woke up and forgot about that :) [14:17] you woke up at 3PM? :o [15:22] openoffice is one big fart [15:22] * apachelogger ain't got no clue about how to make an icon theme [15:53] hiho [15:53] http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/plasma-widget-pgame <-- anyone? [16:01] apachelogger: ^ [16:02] no [16:02] Quintasan: Not sure if you're interested, but maybe try getting it uploaded to Debian too? a) They benefit from it, and b) your work doesn't go out the door whenever someone on their end packages it. [16:02] I gotta digg through the openblob [16:02] ryanakca: okay, I will try [16:03] Quintasan: upload it http://mentors.debian.net ... and then ask around in either #debian-mentors or #debian-qt-kde on OFTC [16:40] hi [16:41] can any ninja help me with force override so manage to install some packages? [16:41] http://paste.ubuntu.com/173720/ [16:41] ryanakca: while using reportbug System Informations: contains something like this: APT prefers jaunty-updates, is this okay? [16:41] BUGabundo: for help go to #kubuntu, this is development channel [16:42] ok Quintasan... [16:42] Quintasan: I've never bothered. You filing an ITP? [16:42] (never bothered removing it) [16:42] BUGabundo: there are no overwrites [16:42] just that karmic is bit messy right now [16:42] ryanakca: ITP, this package is small, I think making someone maintain such small package is useless [16:42] Quintasan: no? so I cant force some versions until they are all built? [16:43] Quintasan: OK, I'd just leave it. [16:43] BUGabundo: you can TRY, dunno what will happen :3 [16:43] ryanakca: ok, thanks [16:45] Quintasan: care to help me destroy my system ? [16:45] BUGabundo: nope :P [16:45] ohh :p [16:45] BUGabundo: dpkg --force-help [16:47] ffffuuuuu- this is confusing @_@ [16:52] looks like I will need sid pbuilder env [17:02] ljoin #ubuntu [17:02] oops [17:11] ryanakca: did you and nixternal ever figure out help.kubuntu.org? [17:11] jjesse: haven't worked on it much this past week unfortunately [17:11] bummer :( [17:11] I just need to add some stuff to it (hours worth of work) and that's it [17:11] beat me to it :) [17:11] I will finish it up this weekend [17:11] yay [17:11] today is nice so it is warranting a bike ride [17:11] its cool here [17:11]