=== SiDi`Laptop is now known as SiDi [00:19] SiDi: pong [00:20] the corners are a bit hard on hte buttons [00:20] but otherwise it looks similar [00:20] work on the buttons [00:20] its quite hard actually [00:20] i resized them via gimp [00:20] I am going to bed in 5 minutes [00:21] yeah, it is a bitch [00:21] I agree [00:21] the original ones are twice bigger, but the author uses metacity's resizing [00:21] * knome starts counting [00:21] and xfwm doesnt support this :P [00:21] but learning that will make things different for you [00:21] if you know any better tool for resizing i'm up for it :p [00:21] it is a matter of trade-offs [00:21] and you need to get it right to make things work as best as they can [00:22] so good luck [00:22] * SiDi didnt understand _at all_ :P [00:22] keep trying [00:22] it takes time [00:22] the close button it good [00:22] its because it was bigger :p [00:22] but the ratio on the others is a bit too harsh [00:22] yeah, exactl [00:22] y [00:22] i'll resize with photoshop :] [00:23] lol [00:23] so how do you fake that on the others? [00:23] its just a 50% resize [00:23] make the dark parts lighter [00:23] kwwii, you have two minutes left [00:23] on _all_ the buttons [00:23] ;] [00:23] i took the metacity files as they were actually [00:23] nothing tweaked [00:23] hi [00:23] and make extra light grey squares for the rounded corners [00:24] (well, i added a window bg because xfwm doesnt support transparent bgs and i resized) [00:24] by any chance is this the place for ubuntu audio as well as art? [00:24] if you can draw a line you can draw a square [00:24] kwwii: i dont think xfwm supports alpha transparency [00:24] meoblast001: yes, indeed [00:24] ok [00:24] but I am passing out soon [00:24] meoblast001: no its not :P [00:24] kwwii: go bed, you seem to needa rest ! :P [00:24] and I am one of the few who is interested in it :p [00:24] one of my biggest issues with Ubuntu is that i feel the themes and sounds don't change enough [00:25] i think there needs to be a consistant change [00:25] knome is keeping track of how much time I have left, no worries :) [00:25] hahah :D I agree the theme doesnt change enough :D [00:25] knome: plug his pc off :P [00:25] the best way to change that is to start working on it yourself [00:25] maybe, every LTS release has a heavily modified GDM, GTK theme, and sound scheme along with the regular background change [00:25] kwwii, TIME! [00:25] meoblast001: I agree that there should be a change, but I think that we need to be very carefull when changing things [00:25] i can probably make new sounds [00:25] and with that, I will piss off [00:26] i used to use FL Studio and i was making sounds like crazy [00:26] meoblast001: put them on the wiki somewhere, or send me an email [00:26] kwwii: i cant make the borders any better btw P [00:26] meoblast001, like shouting "mooo" at the microphone? i'd definitely want that sound scheme. [00:26] thing is, only FL 7 works in WINE, and Image-Line doesn't offer FL7 anymore [00:26] kwwii, you're overtime [00:26] kwwii: you're sleeping btw [00:26] kwwii, go to sleep :] [00:27] SiDi, actually he talked about *going to bed* in 5 [00:27] not actually sleeping [00:27] and he might have a laptop.. === kwwii is now known as kwwii_ === kwwii_ is now known as kwwii [00:27] i really wish Ubuntu would change colors, but i guess orange is the de facto standard [00:28] de facto standard for Ubuntu colors [00:29] i'd love a video like this for ubuntu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hEZZVYXFsA [00:30] i'd change the logo at least [00:30] ;] [00:31] personally i think it's a bit boring [00:31] too long and not really inspirating music [00:31] i think my bandwidth sucks too much to watch a video [00:31] and it seems to show off the new hardware more than vista [00:32] like "wow, you can have a mouseless pc" [00:32] no... not the hardware [00:32] that's what i don't like about the video [00:32] i think there needs to be a video like that for Ubuntu that shows off Ubuntu's features [00:33] offtopic: i hate people with this kind of attitude: "ya i know YouTube as been riding my ass about copyright because its most of what i post lol" [00:33] "lol noob there is reason for copyrights lol?" [00:34] i agree with RMS that the copyright length needs to be shortened to 10 years [00:34] that's a different thing [00:34] it's hard to make large profits on direct sales of a work after 3 years anyway [00:34] i'm not saying everything even should have the copyright as we know it now [00:34] but that attitude just irritates me [00:35] i thought up a cool idea that, if i ever made my own distro, i would put it in that, but i think it'd be best to submit it to branstorm for ubuntu [00:35] something in the installer that dumps lshw into a file [00:36] and then checks it's data against a good/bad list of hardware [00:36] and says whether A) a device is fully compatible with Ubuntu B) proprietary drivers will be needed or C) not compatible at all [00:36] not a bad idea at all [00:36] i'm bleeding. [00:36] knome: ha [00:37] get a bandage [00:37] i have [00:37] knome: i think the idea would be easy to implement [00:37] knome: i'm not even a great programmer and i think i could do that [00:37] the only thing needed would be a hw list [00:37] and an internet connection to connect to it [00:37] yes.... and that could be created with user input [00:37] knome: it would be necessary that a local list exist too [00:37] yes [00:38] but it should ask the user whether he/she wants to use the local or get it from online [00:38] but what if the user has no internet devices that are supported? [00:38] nope, should not ask. [00:38] knome: i wanted, at one time, to make a distro that is as compatible as Debian but easy to use as Ubuntu [00:38] use internet if possible [00:38] i half way gave up on that :( [00:38] but if not, then use local copy [00:38] knome: yes [00:39] mmm... i like blood [00:39] it's the third time this week when my nose bleeds [00:39] second time today [00:40] knome: i cut myself up when i built my mom her computer [00:40] ouch [00:40] i get the feeling she's starting to want Windows [00:40] failure [00:41] lol [00:41] our camera doesn't work on it [00:41] i wanted to file a bug tonight [00:41] my dad was ticked at me when i installed it [00:41] for some reason, magically, only I have completely Ubuntu compatible hardware [00:41] well.. my mom's is too because i made sure of it [00:42] * meoblast001 hates Broadcom [00:42] hah [00:42] i think Nouveau is an amazing project [00:42] i hate nVidia drivers [00:42] who do they think they are.... trying to tie chains to people looking for freedom [00:42] ;) [00:43] meoblast001: it wouldnt be that easy [00:43] for nVidia to make theirs free? [00:43] atm i have no problems with even propietary drivers if they work. [00:43] they could make two drivers [00:43] on each kernel / hal / acpi update you'd have to check the WHOLE list of hardware [00:43] there'd be errors and false positives [00:43] sure, the proprietary drivers would perform better [00:43] because S3TC is a patented, proprietary piece of software [00:44] but screw it... i'd rather have free drivers than S3TC [00:44] we need libsfreetc [00:44] :P [00:44] meoblast001: who do nvidia think they are ? The best GPU manufacturers around maybe ? [00:45] They dont release drivers for the sake of industrial secret, that's more than understandable [00:45] SiDi: they are the best GPU hardware manufacturers [00:45] on the software side, no [00:45] and ati only releases specs, not full drivers either [00:45] secrets destroy inovation [00:45] how are people to inovate if we all hide things from each other to maximize profits [00:45] and even if their drivers wont support kms/gallium3D for a while, they get the best performances benchmarks [00:46] that's another debate :) [00:46] i don't care about performance benchmarks [00:46] i care about my freedoms [00:46] if they release their knowledge to their opponents, they lose their technological advance [00:46] * meoblast001 actually has #gnu on his autojoin list [00:46] and end up as SiS or similar companies [00:46] SiDi: real "work" is releasing your information, and always trying to be better [00:46] use nouveau then :] [00:46] ok.. sure.. they can copy off you, but in order to stay advanced, you should make something new up [00:47] always trying to get better and better [00:47] why does Windows suck? because they don't need to make it better because they know no one's going to use it [00:47] false inovation at work right there [00:47] s/no one's going to use it/no one's going to stop using it [00:47] i dont think windows / nvidia is the most relevant comparison :p [00:47] free software promotes inovation [00:48] as long as people keep trying to work (oh no... that's a problem in the world today), no profits will decrease [00:50] * knome goes to bed [00:50] good night. [00:50] night knome [11:15] kwwii: http://www.opendesktop.org/content/show.php?content=104935 cleaner on second screen ? [12:35] SiDi: yes, much better [12:35] good :p [12:35] well, the rest is up to you [12:36] as soon as i finished uni i'll grab the whole list of community-themes and try to get proper xfwms for all of these [14:56] hello [14:57] anyone knows what happened to the Face-browser GDM project ? [15:00] xanax`, afaik, it's still on the table, but inclusion has been postponed several times. there might be technical difficulties and the developer is busy with other stuff [15:00] like all that notification stuff [15:06] the new gdm browser relies on us using the gdm2 code [15:07] which is still missing some features we need [15:07] the current plan is try and see what we can get done for karmic [15:07] and definitely have it by +1 [15:17] ok, thank you thorwil. [15:18] (and kwwii) [15:18] :-) [16:12] congratulations to authors of Dust and New Wave themes [16:13] they both look very professional [16:20] Heh [16:20] dashua: ^ [16:26] * zniavre is away: Occupé [17:56] I know this is an odd place to ask, even though it involves artwork, but anyone wish to help with artwork for a bowling related project? [17:56] what's the website url ? [17:57] well, I'm gonna be setting it up on launchpad [18:05] basically, linux based scoring system for bowling [18:10] SiDi: Sup mate? [18:11] fine, you ? [18:12] you had a fan around there dashua but not sure if hes still logged in :p [18:12] Ah nice, building a deck. Just stopped by for lunch. [18:13] What is that Carbon theme? An idea for Karmic? [18:14] its a secret project from kwwii :P [18:15] Sweet. [18:16] My next venture is to base a theme somewhat on the Jaunty GDM, start around 310000 for the palette. [18:16] That color looks really nice on glossy screens [18:16] Dark purplish brown [18:16] red is sexy yeh [18:17] but not suitable for the eyes on a long time length :P [18:17] Yeah, Gilouche style base with dark brown seems to be very easy on mine. [18:18] That pretty much where Hanso is now with darker menus [18:18] That's* [18:18] Other than that I think my work is done as we wait for GNOME 3 [18:19] * SiDi doesn't wait much for gnome 3 :D [18:20] if you feel inspired, help knome to get a super sexy blue theme :p [18:21] Yeah, Alvaro could head in that direction for a darker / bluish theme [18:21] darker ? [18:22] Your screen must be damn light dashua, cause its already very dark :P [18:22] Ha, no if he wanted a darker theme. (Yes, that is dark) ;) [18:24] Cool, Banshee trunk works with notify-osd now without a patch. [18:25] I have noticed a lot more brown based themes lately. [18:26] As we moved from brown, the world begins to embrace it =/ [18:26] yeh true [18:26] move away* [18:26] i've been quite surprised to see brown become an usual color for themes, i didnt believe it'd ever happen [18:27] cause I wanna kill off this plague infesting scoring monitors across my city http://lh3.ggpht.com/_yApw4gLxzGU/SSqy_Ro3vkI/AAAAAAAAHxc/A55iGm53f7w/s800/bowling-score.jpg [18:27] Yeah, actually my favorite base if you couldn't tell [18:28] though the bg isn't always pink, it usually starts off blue [18:32] Viper550: Not sure I can help you with bowling software. [18:32] SiDi: Back to work, ttyl [18:32] see you dashua [18:32] good luck ! [18:32] Thx :) [18:33] but, http://bowlingtrophy.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/bowling059.jpg this is what I get stuck with at my home lanes (different color scheme, but still) [21:11] nice colors [21:13] thanks :p theme is from dashua [21:14] lol, the one on bowlingtrophy? :D [21:16] no, not that thing at all :D [21:16] http://www.ubuntu-art.org/content/show.php/Alvaro?content=104145 & http://xfce-look.org/content/show.php/Alvaro+XFWM+theme?content=104246 [21:17] right :P [21:17] as i said earlier, it is not bad, but has some areas which need improvement [21:18] well, feel free to hack it, knome ;) [21:18] i'm not good with editing themes [21:18] i'd rather get dashua hacking it so we could include the default in xubuntu thus not needing to maintain ;P