[00:01] <charlie-tca> I am not sure who to ask, but this group of users really doesn't build those cd's
[00:02] <charlie-tca> Maybe ask in #ubuntu-installer
[00:02] <|val|> good idea
[00:06] <dwarrel_> Hi i was wondering how can i add a script/application to the bootup of xubuntu? in ubuntu there just a application for it but cant seem to find anything for xubuntu
[00:08] <MTec007> sessions & startup has a application autostart
[00:09] <dwarrel_> i need to install that?
[00:10] <charlie-tca> What version of Xubuntu do you have?
[00:11] <dwarrel_> think its 8.04 hmm what was the command to check it again?
[00:11] <charlie-tca> go to Applications -> Settings -> Settings Manager ->
[00:11] <charlie-tca> Autostarted apps
[00:13] <MTec007> charlie-tca: that changed in 9.04 though its different on mine atleast
[00:14] <charlie-tca> I know that. But if the person does not have 9.04, then they don't have sessions & startup, either.
[00:14] <dwarrel_> hmm sorry:S i think i might be at the rong place. :S somehow i just noticed im not running xfce, but lxde. That might explain why i cant find it....
[00:14] <MTec007> true:) i missed where he said 8.04, sorry
[00:14] <charlie-tca> dwarrel_: yes, that would probably be different
[00:14] <dwarrel_> :S im sorry for bothering you with my sleepy head
[00:14] <charlie-tca> no problem
[02:21] <KoshB5> anyone here know how to configure wireless in 9.04?  I can see the network but have no internet connection.
[03:12] <wolfwalker> I'm looking into going completely wireless internet, with Verizon USB modem.  Any word on which of Verizon's modems work better with (X)ubuntu 9.04?  I've done my homework and googled six ways from Sunday, but come up dry.
[07:44] <msa> ok, is this about X-server? My problem (and probably many others): jaunty is SLOW on ATI RADEON (hardy heron worked just fine). So looking to enable -the heron speed again?
[08:01] <moodog> Morning :)
[11:12] <xubnub> hi all :)
[11:17] <SiDi> hi
[11:48] <Gamarok__> !xforcevesa
[12:05] <valdur55> how can use Webcam?
[12:08] <patrick> hi
[12:08] <patrick> what is qt?
[12:08] <SiDi> its a c++ framework
[12:09] <patrick> is qt one of the pre-installed packages in xubuntu
[12:10] <SiDi> no
[12:10] <SiDi> only kubuntu has it by default
[12:11] <patrick> i dont remember installing that package
[12:13] <xubnub> SiDi: do you happen to know how i can find out what path my usb stick is (so i can for example format it?)
[12:13] <knome> patrick, you might have installed vlc or some other app that needs it.
[12:13] <patrick> yea
[12:13] <patrick> i installed vlc
[12:13] <patrick> that's solved the mystery
[12:14] <xubnub> vlc ftw!
[12:14] <patrick> thanks
[12:14] <knome> no problem.
[12:15] <SiDi> xubnub: its /dev/sd# usually
[12:15] <SiDi> if you have 1 hdd, then it will be B cause your stick will be the "second" hdd (thus second letter of the alphabet)
[12:16] <patrick> i tried to install openarena but i cancelled it because of the low download speed other packages needed by openarena were installed how to remove those packages?
[12:16] <SiDi> anyways xubnub use gparted for formatting, it'll find the key on its own
[12:16] <SiDi> xubnub: if you just wanna read the files your key hsould be automounted in /media/dis
[12:16] <SiDi> +k
[12:16] <patrick> i forgot the 2 packages installed
[12:16] <knome> patrick, "apt-cache depends openarena" shows you packages needed to install openarena
[12:17] <patrick> ok
[12:17] <knome> but those libraries might be needed by other apps
[12:17] <knome> so don't remove them without looking what else they will remove
[12:17] <patrick> no
[12:17] <xubnub> thanks, SiDi, but i had problems formatting it with gparted, but that's because i think my pendrive was still mounted lol
[12:17] <SiDi> xubnub in such case right click it in gparted and "unmount" ;)
[12:18] <patrick> only openarena depends on those i dont have many apps
[12:18] <knome> yeah, but it might also depend on some general libs
[12:18] <knome> :)
[12:18] <knome> you can never be sure
[12:18] <patrick> ...
[12:19] <patrick> i cant see the 2 packages
[12:20] <patrick> i will try searching
[12:20] <knome> okay
[12:20] <xubnub> yeah, it's /media/disk (because when i do 'cd /media/disk' and then 'ls' it lists the files i see in the file manager)
[12:21] <patrick> i only saw openarena-data
[12:22] <patrick> maybe it depends in the system
[12:22] <patrick> uhhh
[12:23] <valdur55> How use webcam?
[12:23] <patrick> i think you need to install a webapp like cheese
[12:24] <valdur55> Webcam is connected.
[12:24] <xubnub> but that's the strange thing, SiDi, now i can't unmount the volume, it says:
[12:24] <xubnub> Unable to unmount "4G Removable Volume":
[12:24] <xubnub> The volume "4G Removable Volume" was probably mounted manually on the command line
[12:24] <valdur55> sudo apt-get instal wepapp ??
[12:25] <xubnub> (which was not mounted by command line)
[12:25] <patrick> no
[12:25] <patrick> cheese instead of webapp
[12:25] <xubnub> and there is nothing accessing it (from what i can see)
[12:27] <valdur55> patrick: sudo apt-get install cheese ?
[12:27] <patrick> yea try it
[12:28] <valdur55> :P
[12:28] <valdur55> installed
[12:28] <patrick> try to run it then
[12:28] <valdur55> runed.
[12:28] <valdur55> runned.
[12:28] <valdur55> Loading :(
[12:31] <valdur55> damn..
[12:31] <valdur55> All is so white
[12:31] <patrick> what is the manufacturer and model of your cam?
[12:32] <patrick> it may be a compatibility issue
[12:32] <valdur55> Speedlink
[12:35] <valdur55> sl 6820
[12:42] <patrick> maybe it is in the settings of cheese
[12:43] <patrick> adjusting the white balance and sort of
[12:50] <sound_fx> Hello, I just did a clean install of Xubuntu 9.04, and in the upgrade, I've lost my sound, could anyone give any suggestions?
[12:52] <patrick> Applications > Multimedia > aumix
[12:52] <patrick> modify the settings there
[12:56] <maristo> hi all
[12:57] <maristo> i have problems with burning CDs on Xub 8.10 :/ wtf? Brasero doese'nt works
[13:05] <Gamarok__> !Gtkpod
[13:05] <Gamarok__> !gtkpod
[13:38] <knome> maristo, can you be more specific - which kind of problems?
[13:38] <maristo> burning stops
[13:38] <maristo> program reports error
[13:39] <knome> can you paste the error
[13:39] <knome> !pastebin
[13:39] <knome> (if it's long)
[13:39] <maristo> wait
[13:39] <knome> i have to go but this information should help others to go forward
[13:47] <patrick> what do you think is better rhythmbox or listen music player
[13:52] <maristo> knome, http://paste.ubuntu.com/173631/
[13:58] <Slonkie> patrick, i like Amarok or Banshee better :).
[14:13] <solotim> hi, group, I have a question regarding icewm, but I can't find people to ask, so may I ask the question here?
[14:14] <solotim> I can't see scim tray in my icewm desktop, although scim is workable, what should I do to solve it? thanks!
[14:14] <firsm> patrick, airo and mpd
[14:19] <Wizard> solotim: do any other application use tray properly?
[14:21] <solotim> pidgin's tray works
[14:23] <valdur55> any remote apps for linux?
[14:24] <solotim> Are u talking with me? valdur
[14:26] <valdur55> :P
[14:26] <valdur55> Nope :P
[14:29] <solotim> Wizanrd, any suggestion?
[14:41] <Wizard> hmm..
[14:41] <Wizard> i have no idea..
[14:41] <Wizard> i haven't use icewm for years :P
[14:43] <xubnub> yello... xeveryone ;p
[14:44] <Wizard> xi! xubnub
[14:45] <xubnub> wizard, please cast a spell of xubuntu xizdom on me, I really need that one :P
[14:47]  * Wizard cast such spell on xubnub 
[14:49]  * xubnub feels a sudden rush of knowledge 
[14:49] <xubnub> I CAN SEE IT ALL NOW!
[14:50] <Wizard> good
[14:50] <Wizard> if it was so easy..
[14:50] <Wizard> and seriously, what do you need to know?
[14:56] <xubnub> not really much, since every step i take to make a persistent USB install of a Xubuntu ends me up with MORE reading material concerning the most easy to do things, and the worse thing is that it acts directly into my problem solving part of my brains, so that means that i do in fact read up lol
[14:56] <Wizard> lol
[14:56] <Wizard> that shouldn't be very hard
[14:57] <Wizard> my friend did it in one hour
[14:57] <xubnub> i know, but not for someone who gets to use xubuntu for the 3rd time extensively :P
[14:57] <xubnub> let's see if i can fetch a post about it
[14:58] <Wizard> have you uesed unetbootin?
[14:59] <xubnub> http://paste.ubuntu.com/173660/
[14:59] <xubnub> yeah, and pendrivelinux
[15:00] <Wizard> and it didn't work?
[15:01] <xubnub> nope, but i think i know what the problem was, see, in gparted, i didn't realize that at the top-right corner, you could switch between physical drives
[15:01] <xubnub> so all this time, i've been formatting something else :S
[15:01] <xubnub> ...into a FAT16 partition :S
[15:02] <Wizard> oh my god :P
[15:03] <xubnub> i hope it's nothing serious, it's called /dev/sda5 but when i tried to partition it, it was locked, but it eventually showed up as FAT16 anyway
[15:04] <Ironicus> I have xubuntu on my laptop, I did some test and it's now totaly broke...
[15:04] <Ironicus> I want to install it again
[15:04] <Ironicus> but my comp don't want to start from cd again
[15:05] <Ironicus> and can't click directly on menu because it's a .exe
[15:06] <xubnub> i think something is flashed on your system, one time when i tried to boot to XP< my system said that it couldn't find the kernel (or boot record), and i saw that there was a usbstick put inside, so i removed it and rebooted... bad idea...
[15:06] <Slonkie> I'n jaunty, the folder "documents, music" etc is shows when you press the "Places" in the panel.. i updated from 8.10 to jaunty, but i don't have those, is there anyway to get them ?
[15:06] <Slonkie> in*
[15:07] <halz> Hi folks, I'm not having much luck getting flash player to work in firefox. not sure where I"m going wrong
[15:07] <Slonkie> Did you install "adobe-flashplugin" ?
[15:07] <charlie-tca> !flash | halz
[15:07] <xubnub> did you install the restricted?
[15:07] <xubnub> yea that's what i meant
[15:12] <halz> Charlie-tca and ubottu  I have done the apt-get install nonefree and downloaded the flash as well either work, its usually not this hard.
[15:14] <Slonkie> I weren't able to make the flashplugin-nonfree work either, then i tried adobe-flashplugin and it worked.
[15:14] <Slonkie> A thing which is important is that you don't have macromedia flash installed.
[15:16] <halz> Slonkie: how do I know if I have the macromedia one installed?
[15:16] <Mamoruchan> Hi all
[15:16] <Slonkie> go into the addons manager in firefox and check
[15:16] <Slonkie> !hi | Mamoruchan
[15:17] <halz> tahnks :)
[15:21] <xubnub> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo ubiquity --desktop %k gtk_ui
[15:21] <xubnub> error: libhal_acquire_global_interface_lock: org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.InterfaceAlreadyLocked: The interface org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Storage is already exclusively locked either by someone else or it's already locked by yourself
[15:21] <xubnub> somehow, ubiquity fails :S
[15:22] <charlie-tca> xubnub: is that a usb drive? Was it plugged in in Windows?
[15:23] <xubnub> nope, it's just on a liveCD, and when i click on it, nothing happens, so then i decided to work the command line in terminal ,and that's the result
[15:23] <charlie-tca> What version of Xubuntu?
[15:23] <xubnub> 9.04
[15:23] <xubnub> the latest
[15:23] <charlie-tca> You have to burn it to a cd, then restart with it in
[15:24] <charlie-tca> It might be a bad burn
[15:24] <charlie-tca> does it pass md5sum checks?
[15:24] <xubnub> thought so, but it said that the disk integrity was fine...
[15:24] <xubnub> disk integrity = md5sum ?
[15:25] <xubnub> or is it something completely different?
[15:25] <charlie-tca> There is disk integrity check from the cd menu and there is md5sum
[15:25] <xubnub> hmm
[15:25] <xubnub> can i check it while running it here?
[15:25] <charlie-tca> You can check md5sum, yes
[15:27] <charlie-tca> !md5
[15:27] <xubnub> thanks
[15:27] <xubnub> [checking...]
[15:32] <Slonkie> !panels
[15:33] <Slonkie> How do i restart the panels?
[15:33] <Slonkie> tried xfce4-panel -restart
[15:34] <charlie-tca> In a tty or using alt+f2, should be just "xfce4-panel"
[15:34] <charlie-tca> or did it change commands for jaunty?
[15:35] <charlie-tca> Same command. It doesn't work?
[15:36] <halz> hi again: is there a way of backing up my packages that get downloaded, and can I share these on other computers?
[15:36] <Mamoruchan> do anyone have problems with pon command in 9.04? pon <connect name> bring up two pptp tunnels instead of one
[15:37] <charlie-tca> halz: there is a way
[15:37] <halz> charlie-tca: sounds promising. :)
[15:37] <charlie-tca> Now let me try to find it
[15:38] <Slonkie> just typing xfce4-panel doesn't restart them, charlie-tca :/
[15:38] <charlie-tca> !info apt-cacher
[15:38] <Slonkie> using alt-f2
[15:38] <charlie-tca> halz: should look at apt-cacher
[15:39] <halz> charlie-tca: thanks I'll check it out
[15:40] <charlie-tca> hmmm
[15:40] <charlie-tca> Slonkie: more than just the panels then
[15:40] <charlie-tca> Maybe try restarting the computer, not just suspend, but a full restart
[15:40] <Slonkie> yeah it's not that important
[16:31] <Slonkie> What's the command to take a screenshot?
[16:33] <charlie-tca> printscreen key
[16:34] <Slonkie> No it doesn't work
[16:34] <charlie-tca> or to take a full screen: xfce4-screenshooter -f
[16:34] <charlie-tca> window only: xfce4-screenshooter -w
[16:35] <charlie-tca> 9.04?
[16:35] <Slonkie> sorry it does work. but i asks me for a place to save
[16:35] <Slonkie> i just want it to automaticly save it on the desktop, that's what the button "screenshot" does
[16:35] <charlie-tca> When you tell it where to save, it should have the screenshot
[16:36] <charlie-tca> I thought it saves to your home directory, not desktop
[16:36] <Slonkie> Well it doesn't
[17:26] <xubnub> charlie-tca: i checked the .iso md5sum on windows with winMD5sum, and everything was OK :S
[17:28] <charlie-tca> will it autostart when you boot with it in the drive?
[17:30] <xubnub> well, in a way
[17:30] <xubnub> it says that my volume is locked
[17:31] <xubnub> but now i formatted it to FAT16
[17:31] <xubnub> w8 are you talking about the liveCD?
[17:31] <charlie-tca> What do you mean, in a way?
[17:32] <xubnub> well it does show a response (my USBstick) but it fails to mount
[17:32] <charlie-tca> So, this is a liveCD on a USB stick?
[17:33] <xubnub> "charlie-tca: will it autostart when you boot with it in the drive?"  < were you talking about the USB stick or liveCD?
[17:33] <charlie-tca> What are you having problems with?
[17:33] <xubnub> because now i'm trying to have is a persistent liveCD environment on my USB stick
[17:34] <xubnub> let's see, i am now unplugging and re-plugging the usbstick
[17:35] <charlie-tca> This is the best how-to I know of for that:
[17:35] <charlie-tca> http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2008/11/07/ubuntu-from-your-flash-drive-easier-than-ever-before/
[17:37] <xubnub> Failed to mount "4G Removable Volume". The enclosing drive for the volume is locked. DAAAAMN
[17:37] <xubnub> iz it becuz it iz FAT16?
[17:38] <xubnub> wat... but i can access it, and it has this dir: /tmp/tmpuHsWqy
[17:38] <xubnub> linux is strange :|
[17:39] <charlie-tca> That happens normally because you mounted it under windows and did not unmount it correctly
[17:39] <slow-motion> hi
[17:39] <charlie-tca> !hi | slow-motion
[17:40] <slow-motion> hi charlie-tca
[17:40] <xubnub> hi slow-motion
[17:40] <slow-motion> hi xubnub
[17:41] <xubnub> well, to be honest, charlie-tca, i reformatted it and used 'safely remove hardware' everytime i used the stick :S
[17:41] <charlie-tca> I don't know what is wrong, then.
[17:43] <xubnub> no prob, i'll just try to install a persistent xubuntu on it and keep my fingers crossed hehe :P
[17:43] <xubnub> thanks for all the help btw
[17:55] <vidd> how do you restart X since they disabled ctrl+alt+bksp?
[17:57] <charlie-tca> vidd: alt+SysRq+k
[17:57] <charlie-tca> SysRq is the printscreen key, if it is not labeled
[17:57] <vidd> ok ty'
[17:58] <vidd> dunno why they cant leave well enough alone
[17:58] <charlie-tca> they said you can enable it, but most users are confused by hitting accidently...
[17:58] <knome> "accidently" :P
[17:59] <charlie-tca> Yeah, apparently, windows users trying to hit ctrl-alt-del
[18:03]  * Feldegastr has never used ctrl+alt+bksp in windows..
[18:03] <charlie-tca> Some of the portables have the bksp and del keys next to each other
[18:04] <Feldegastr> getting kde to use the defined video settings on start would be nice.....
[18:04] <charlie-tca> They try for ctrl+alt+del and get bksp instead
[18:04] <knome> true
[18:04] <Feldegastr> what are they? mac users? ;-)
[18:04] <charlie-tca> you have to ask in #kubuntu about kde
[18:04] <knome> or maybe even #kde ;P
[18:05] <Feldegastr> yeah i know :)
[18:05] <charlie-tca> You never used ctrl-alt-del in windows?
[18:05] <Feldegastr> all the time, i never used ctrl+alt+bksp
[18:05] <charlie-tca> neither did anyone else
[18:06] <Feldegastr> that's why i mentioned mac, cos they don't have a del key
[18:10] <xubnub> Installation is complete.  You may now reboot your computer with this USB thumb drive inserted to boot Ubuntu.
[18:10] <xubnub> wish me luck you guys
[18:10] <xubnub> (also pretty lol, i couldn't copypaste this message, though drag and drop sufficed) :S
[18:10] <xubnub> anyway, hopefully brb
[18:25] <xubnub> :(
[18:56] <Bongolian> Got a bit of a question. On 9.04 and so far so good but it seems one of my applications installed the menu icon in Accessories where it should have been Network. Trying to change via /usr/share/applications fails as apparently I don't have permissions.
[18:56] <Bongolian> perhaps I'm missing something obvious?
[18:57] <Slonkie> you need to use sudo in order to change the .desktop file
[18:57] <charlie-tca> copy the .desktop file to '~/.config/xdg/menus' and change it there
[18:58] <Slonkie> if he copies the file, he'll just be having 2 icons ?
[18:59] <Bongolian> using the Sudo command seemed familiar as I do recall it once working but unfortunately I lost my notes on what that step was to change it in that way
[18:59] <charlie-tca> No, the user home file takes priority over the /usr files
[18:59] <Slonkie> ah cool.
[19:00] <charlie-tca> anything in ~/.config overrides /usr/share/applications
[19:00] <charlie-tca> with the advantage that it will not be overridden by upgrades/updates to your system
[19:01] <charlie-tca> You can also create desktop entries in '~/.local/share/applications' to override the existing applications (change or hide) or add new ones.
[19:02] <charlie-tca> oops, gave the wrong one first
[19:03] <knome> hah:)
[19:03] <Bongolian> it looks like what I have in the .local/share/applications is just defaults.list
[19:05] <charlie-tca> copy the file you tried to modify to there and modify it.
[19:08] <Bongolian> Got it. What I had to do was to copy the app icon from usr/share/applications to .local/share/applications then save as: to my desktop THEN C&P it back to .local/share/applications then it worked
[19:08] <charlie-tca> :-)
[19:09] <Bongolian> a bit of a long way around bit it works just the same
[19:10] <Bongolian> muchas gracias for the help  :-D
[19:11] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[19:18] <xubnub> i have a quetion as well, i'm trying to do a persistent liveUSB install and did it this way: http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2008/11/07/ubuntu-from-your-flash-drive-easier-than-ever-before/
[19:19] <xubnub> but, when i try to bootup, i get a strange prompt: http://paste.ubuntu.com/173795/
[19:19] <xubnub> this happens after i see the bootmenu with options like "check disk integrity" and "install linux on hard drive"
[19:20] <charlie-tca> that's called a busybox error
[19:20] <xubnub> ouch
[19:20] <xubnub> that doesn't mean good right?
[19:20] <charlie-tca> but I don't know how to get around it.
[19:20] <charlie-tca> try typing exit and hit enter. see what it does
[19:21] <charlie-tca> usually means it is bad broke
[19:21] <xubnub> hmm, i guess it will reboot, but i'll try
[19:35] <lynxje> Hey, got a question, when I change the visible items in my XFCE menu in the menu editor (for instance I removed the visiblity of an item), the change doesn't show in my actual menu. What am I doing wrong? :)
[19:36] <xubnub> charlie-tca: http://img198.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=p5150009.jpg
[19:53] <Slonkie> Would it be possible to enable ctrl+c/ctrl-v shortcuts for copy/paste in xfce4-terminal?
[20:07] <Slonkie> In Jaunty i've got at problem, i have an application called Maple (Java based) which is unable to print, it say's that "no print service was found" - Is anybody aware of an solution for this? It worked fine in Intrepid
[20:24] <slow-motion>  <xubnub> charlie-tca: http://img198.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=p5150009.jpg < buy a new harddisk
[20:25] <slow-motion> whoops he is gone
[20:38] <rafkid> evening - I have an Advent 7087 LE1D laptop with Xubuntu Jaunty loaded - the keyboard type is not recognized - any dieas where to begin?
[20:39] <rafkid> ideas even
[20:40] <SiDi> Apps -> Settings -> Keyboards, and chose the keyboard physical layout matching yours
[20:40] <Slonkie> In Jaunty i've got at problem, i have an application called Maple (Java based) which is unable to print, it say's that "no print service was found" - Is anybody aware of an solution for this? It worked fine in Intrepid
[20:41] <rafkid> @SiDi ty SiDi - will try this again
[20:41] <SiDi> Slonkie: http://www.mapleprimes.com/forum/printing-with-maple-11-in-linux
[20:41] <SiDi> Slonkie: go to apps -> system -> services and ensure cups is running please
[20:42] <Slonkie> cups is running
[20:43] <rafkid> @SiDi tried again - it is none of the listed keyboards - my problem is that the Fn keys to turn up the sound don't work whereas the screen brightness does
[20:44] <SiDi> rafkid: oh, its that
[20:44] <SiDi> rafkid: please type pgrep xfce4-settings-helper and tell me the result
[20:44] <Slonkie> well there seems to be an solution on that site SiDi, but can you tell me where the cups configutarion files are stored and how to start/stop cups?
[20:45] <SiDi> Slonkie: sudo /etc/init.d/cups start|stop|force-reload|restart
[20:45] <SiDi>  /etc/cups/*
[20:45] <Slonkie> Thanks!
[20:46] <rafkid> @SiDi  pgrep xfce4-settings-helper returned precisely nothing unfortunately
[20:46] <SiDi> rafkid: alright :)
[20:46] <SiDi> rafkid: then apps -> system -> sessions and startup
[20:46] <SiDi> and check in the list of startup applications, it should be there but unchecked
[20:46] <SiDi> please check it
[20:47] <SiDi> and also, run "xfce4-settings-helper" in Alt+F2 in order to launch it right now
[20:47] <SiDi> and check how keyboard shortcuts work after that
[20:48] <rafkid> @SiDi done these both
[20:49] <SiDi> rafkid: how does it work now ? still doesnt work ,
[20:49] <SiDi> ? *
[20:49] <rafkid> 2 secs
[20:51] <SiDi> Also, check in system -> Parameters -> keyboard, tab shortcuts, that you have a shortcut such as amixer sset Master 10%+ (or aumix -v +10) | XF86AudioRaiseVolume
[20:51] <SiDi> if not, add it and then the volume up key should work
[20:51] <rafkid> @SiDi still no joy although now the sound is louder - no apparent increase with Fn right arrow though
[20:52] <rafkid> ah
[20:52] <rafkid> ok
[20:54] <SiDi> (it seems on some installs settings-helper and keyboard shortcuts were not properly set by default, btw)
[20:56] <rafkid> @SiDi the 2eb6ard keyboard is reversed with numlock on
[20:56] <rafkid> @SiDi there is no parameters section under system.................
[20:57] <SiDi> Settings, sorry
[20:57]  * SiDi translates from french.
[20:57] <rafkid> ah
[20:59] <rafkid> @SiDi still no joy with system->settings-> etc
[21:00] <rafkid> does not exist
[21:01] <rafkid> @SiDi I would choose a named keyboard if I knew which one it was the same as?
[21:02] <SiDi> if yours isnt there, keep the default one  rafkid
[21:02] <rafkid> k
[21:02] <SiDi> ah whatever
[21:03] <rafkid> back
[21:05] <rafkid> @SiDi kept the default keyboard - it still does not register all the Fn keys - can't adjust sound - sob!
[21:07] <SiDi> rafkid: did you check if there were those keyboard shortcuts ?
[21:07] <SiDi> Applications menu -> XFCE parameters/Settings -> Keyboard | on the window, chose tab named "Shortcuts"
[21:08] <SiDi> This time the path should be correct ;)
[21:08]  * SiDi is tired.
[21:09] <rafkid> @SiDi so sorry - done this - there are paths now to some xfce paths - which one should we look at?
[21:10] <rafkid> @SiDi if your tired we can leave this for now? Thanks very much for the help btw
[21:10] <SiDi> rafkid: you're looking for the "Keyboard" window
[21:10]  * SiDi uploading a screenshot
[21:11] <rafkid> @SiDi found the Keyboard tab - cn 5 send s screen sh6t+
[21:11] <knome> WUT?
[21:11] <knome> :)
[21:12] <SiDi> knome: same reaction inside my brain
[21:12] <rafkid> @SiDi sorry - can I send u a screen shot?
[21:12] <SiDi> yes, you can
[21:12] <knome> use a image hosting site
[21:12] <SiDi> and since mine has finished uploading i'll put it here
[21:12] <SiDi> http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/4278/capturec.jpg
[21:12] <SiDi> yeh, use imageshack.us please, i'm on a webchat client, it doesn't support CTCP requests
[21:12] <rafkid> k
[21:13] <knome> and that way somebody else can also help
[21:17] <Slonkie> What does it mean that i'm suppose to create a symlink with this inside "/usr/lib# ln -s libcups.so.2 libcups.so"
[21:18] <SiDi> It means exactly whats written
[21:19] <Slonkie> let me rephrase that, how do i create a symlink?
[21:19] <knome> Slonkie, cd /usr/lib/
[21:19] <SiDi> ie. you go to /usr/lib, as root (see the # ? it means as root, so add sudo before the command)
[21:19] <knome> Slonkie, sudo ln -s libcups.so.2 libcups.so
[21:19] <SiDi> and you type the command there
[21:19] <SiDi> it'll make a file named "libcups.so" that'll directly point to libcups.so.2 which is the actual version of the lib
[21:20] <Slonkie> okay
[21:20] <Slonkie> stupid maple
[21:20] <SiDi> basically apps grab the lib by using the version without a .number at the end, but this kind of notation allows you to have different versions of a lib, even if i have no idea how you can choose which to use :p
[21:21] <knome> SiDi, by creating a symlink i suppose :P
[21:22] <Slonkie> now when i print in maple it just says "printing", not asking me which printer or anything :/
[21:25] <SiDi> knome: yeh, one more :P
[21:26] <SiDi> Slonkie: #maple :P
[21:27] <Slonkie> Wish that channel existed SiDi :)
[21:27] <Slonkie> I
[21:27] <rafkid> @SiDi many thanks - defeated by imageshack registration for this evening will try again tomorrow - thanks again
[21:27] <SiDi> rafkid: you dont need to register
[21:27] <rafkid> grief
[21:27] <SiDi> well anyways, check your shortcuts :)
[21:28] <SiDi> the commands for volume up/down/toggle are amixer sset Master 5%+        5%-         toggle
[21:28]  * SiDi goes back to his project report for RezTorrent ><''
[21:28] <knome> hah
[21:31] <SiDi> I really can't find WHY but when testing on 127.0.0.1 the client really goes berserk :/
[21:31] <knome> hah
[21:31] <SiDi> there's a TCP paquets mess
[21:31] <knome> would it be because it's localhost? :P
[21:31] <SiDi> I've been readin a whole wireshark output, testing manually all kinds of host/network byte order conversions, and couldnt fix the damn bug
[21:32] <SiDi> which doesnt seem to happen when not on loopback but when on wlan0 :/
[21:32] <SiDi> ive spent like 3 hours on it :P
[21:34] <rafkid> @SiDi this any good? http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/7189/raf25d2eyb6ard.png
[21:36] <SiDi> yes
[21:36] <SiDi> now add "amixer sset Master 5%+"
[21:36] <SiDi> and chose your volume up key
[21:37] <SiDi> do the same for down, replace 5%+ by -
[21:37] <SiDi> and test them
[21:37] <rafkid> k
[21:40] <rafkid> @Sidi very nice try - no joy though - it accepted the shortcuts but they dont do anything
[21:41] <SiDi> rafkid: try them in a console :)
[21:41] <SiDi> and try "aumix -v +5" too
[21:47] <rafkid> amixer sset Master 5%+ changes a digital vlaue nicley - but the sound volume stays the same eithe rup or down - u really have been very helpful - i will leave u in pece now - many thanks
[21:48] <rafkid> night
[21:48] <knome> night rafkid
[22:20]  * GaeliX is away: fsck -yfv -C fd /dev/brain
[22:22] <Slonkie> I'n jaunty, the folder "documents, music" etc is shows when you press the "Places" in the panel.. i updated from 8.10 to jaunty, but i don't have those, is there anyway to get them ?
[22:35]  * GaeliX is back (gone 00:15:06)
[22:37] <slow-motion> n8
[23:06] <artistxe> trying to find a list of games that I can play in terminal . anyone know how to get that list ?
[23:06] <artistxe> built-in . not addons
[23:10] <artistxe> oh. no wonder. is bsdgames package.
[23:11] <Wizard> artistxe: wtf :D
[23:11] <artistxe> wtf what ?  @ Wizard
[23:12] <Wizard> artistxe: wtf is part of bsdgames
[23:12] <Wizard> man wtf :P
[23:12] <Wizard> mati@japko:~$ wtf is lmao
[23:12] <Wizard> LMAO: laughing my ass off
[23:12] <Wizard> :P
[23:13] <artistxe> that is funny
[23:14] <Wizard> in general it works like whatis
[23:14] <Wizard> :P