[00:00] <daskreech1> darkenigma2652: May want to use KDE3 and try sudo lshw -C audio for the soundcard
[00:01] <darkenigma2652> I know the soundcard... I'll just blacklist one and specify the other and vice verse if I have problems
[00:01] <[Tequila]> Whats the best program to put video on ipod in kubuntu?
[00:01] <[Tequila]> cant find a video option on amarok
[00:02] <darkenigma2652> Tequila, Amarok is audio-only
[00:02] <[Tequila]> rgiht so back to my original question
[00:03] <darkenigma2652> I'll search around for something, but please tell me if you find something b/c I need a video transfer program for my Sony Walkman
[00:05] <darkenigma2652> Well, I figured out how to get drag-and-drop video transfer for my Walkman, I'll search for you know
[00:07] <sere> how do i start a movie in another screen
[00:09] <darkenigma2652> [Tequila], you still there?
[00:09] <darkenigma2652> Stupid question, I can check list
[00:10] <darkenigma2652> no, he/she's not
[00:10] <darkenigma2652> Just as I found out how...
[00:11] <darkenigma2652> If any of you guys see [Tequila] again, tell her: sudo apt-get install gtkpod-aac
[00:14] <darkenigma2652> cya guys later if I have anything else to ask
[00:21] <Serpardum> greetings and salutations
[00:22] <Serpardum> !KDE
[00:23] <Serpardum> I'm on 9.04, installed from iso yesterday.  Is my KDE the latest and greatest?
[00:23] <daskreech1> Serpardum: Depends on your definition
[00:25] <daskreech1> There is a KDE 4.3 prelease out which you don't have
[00:26] <daskreech1> For the stable blessed releases then yes you are up to date
[00:35] <Serpardum> Hmm.. can't remmber the name of that opensource 3d rpg game.  gotta find it
[00:37] <Unksi> sauerbraten? or cube?
[00:37] <Serpardum> neither
[00:37] <Unksi> ok
[00:37] <Unksi> oh yeah rpg.. :D
[00:37] <Unksi> thats fps not rpg :p
[00:43] <Serpardum> Hmm.. is it planeshift?
[00:46] <Serpardum> yeah, planeshift
[00:46] <ign0ramus> hey all.
[00:48] <ign0ramus> I've finally tamed X to use a reasonable amount of cpu, but i've noticed if i leave the lappy running for long periods of time /usr/bin/python ends up eating like 85% cpu until i manually kill it.  anyone know why this is happening?
[00:48] <Serpardum> Hey ignoramus
[00:48] <ign0ramus> hey Serpardum
[00:48] <Serpardum> some python script that's running?
[00:49] <ign0ramus> Serpardum, yeah, but what?  htop and top just list the python process
[00:49] <Serpardum> I wonder if there's a way to find out what files a process has open, it woudl be a .py file
[00:49] <ign0ramus> Serpardum, killing python doesn't seem to affect any of the apps I normally run
[00:49] <Serpardum> It might be some background task or a server you don't use or something
[00:50] <ign0ramus> Serpardum, actually... wicd runs on python, doesn't it?
[00:50]  * Serpardum shrugs
[00:50] <ign0ramus> although killing the process doesn't affect my wifi... :/
[00:51] <Serpardum> do you try ps -f
[00:51] <ign0ramus> Serpardum,  it lists bash and ps... that's it
[00:51] <Serpardum> yeah, right now, so you don't have the python running right now
[00:52] <Serpardum> ehre you go, ps -A -F
[00:52] <Serpardum> -A is all.  -F is extra full
[00:53] <Serpardum> man I have a lot of processes running ^^
[00:53] <cthullu> im trying to find a 64-bit PSX emu, anyone got ne suggestions?
[00:53] <Serpardum> google?
[00:53] <ign0ramus> Serpardum, i'm going to have to 'man' that command, because i don't understand all the listings
[00:53] <Serpardum> at teh top it tells you what they are, a header line
[00:53] <Serpardum> PID = process id.
[00:53] <ign0ramus> Serpardum, SZ?
[00:54] <ign0ramus> RSS?
[00:54] <Serpardum> sz most likely size.. dunno. heh
[00:54] <Serpardum> try manning
[00:54] <Serpardum> ps -A -f might be more helpful
[00:54] <cthullu> *nix 64-bit PSX Emu?
[00:55] <Serpardum> cthulu: If ind it easer to go from more to less
[00:55] <Serpardum> first try PSX Emulation
[00:55] <Serpardum> too many, add Linux
[00:55] <ign0ramus> Serpardum, Hmm.. python /usr/share/wicd/wicd-daemon.py  seems to be using a fair amount of resources
[00:55] <Serpardum> too many, add 64 bit, etc..
[00:55] <Serpardum> what is wicd?  oh, your wireless?
[00:55] <Phibes> !ping
[00:55] <ign0ramus> Serpardum, yeah, network manager sucks for me
[00:55] <Serpardum> ahh
[00:56] <Serpardum> One reasojn I prefer hardwired
[00:56] <cthullu> serpardum: I googled it already. All i came up with was a .deb for pcsx but its for 64-bit hardy and intrepid
[00:56] <Serpardum> hardy was a kubuntu wasn't it?
[00:56] <ign0ramus> Serpardum, mysql is currently using the most resources, but that is separate from python, correct?
[00:56] <ign0ramus> Serpardum, sure was
[00:56] <Serpardum> mysql is a SQL database
[00:56] <cthullu> serpardum: yes but im on jaunty
[00:57] <Serpardum> cthullu, try apt-get the name of the .deb
[00:57] <ign0ramus> Serpardum, no i know- i use it to manage my Amarok database, but it doesn't employ python in any way, right/
[00:57] <Serpardum> anything could be using the MYSQL, anythign that uses the database
[00:57] <Serpardum> I don't see how your wireless would though
[00:57] <ign0ramus> Serpardum, got it.
[00:57] <yoshiy> cthullu: "apt-cache search psx emulator" let me find a packages called "pcsx-df" did u tried that already?
[00:57] <cthullu> serpardum: no, the repositories for it have /hardy in the http for the rep key
[00:58] <Serpardum> try what yoshiy said
[00:58] <cthullu> yoshiy: nope not yet
[00:59] <cthullu> pcsx-df - Sony PlayStation emulator -- binary
[00:59] <cthullu>  that was the return
[00:59] <Serpardum> yeha, pcsx-df is Sony PlayStation umlator binary.  might be wha tyou want
[00:59] <cthullu> I dont know how to do anything with binaries yet
[00:59] <Serpardum> install it
[00:59] <Serpardum> apt-get pcsx-df
[00:59] <cthullu> how, also see above
[00:59] <yoshiy> cthullu: you can install it using: "sudo apt-get pcsx-df"
[00:59] <cthullu> thats all i have to do?
[00:59]  * Serpardum nods
[01:00] <cthullu> ok its installing appearantly
[01:00] <ign0ramus> i wish mednafen did psx...
[01:00] <Serpardum> I wish I knew hat mednafen was
[01:01] <cthullu> its a game emulator
[01:01] <ign0ramus> Serpardum, an emulator that does Sega Master System, NES, GB, GBA, and a bunch of other stuff
[01:01] <cthullu> it installed, how do i run it now? I tried pcsx in terminal but nothing
[01:01] <Serpardum> ahh
[01:01] <Serpardum> look in your programs in kde
[01:01] <Serpardum> program games
[01:01] <cthullu> o
[01:01] <Serpardum> *probably
[01:01] <cthullu> yup there it is
[01:02] <cthullu> now how i do i add the .bin?
[01:02] <Serpardum> add what .bin?
[01:02] <Serpardum> oh, the one to run?  try running it and see what happens *shrug*
[01:02] <ign0ramus> cthullu, it should be fully installed and ready to use
[01:02] <ign0ramus> *should* be
[01:02] <cthullu> sch1000.bin, its the bios file
[01:02] <ign0ramus> cthullu, oh... that you have to get elsewhere
[01:02] <Serpardum> run the program
[01:02] <cthullu> i have it already
[01:02] <Serpardum> maybe it asks for the bin
[01:03] <cthullu> I just need to know where to put it
[01:03] <Serpardum> try ~
[01:03] <cthullu> or rather how to put it there
[01:03] <Serpardum> which is your home
[01:03] <ign0ramus> cthullu, you have to add it to some directory... if it has a GUI, check "paths" or similarly titled
[01:03] <cthullu> ok
[01:03] <Serpardum> hmm. I ran the psx emulator and nothing happend.
[01:04] <ign0ramus> Serpardum, do you have the bios file?
[01:04] <cthullu> you need the bios
[01:04] <Serpardum> no, don't have the bios
[01:04] <cthullu> scph1001.bin
[01:04] <cthullu> google is your friend
[01:04] <ign0ramus> Serpardum, for legal reasons, they can't add the proprietary Sony bios file in the download
[01:04] <cthullu> I just cant find the bios folder to drop it in
[01:04] <Serpardum> ahh
[01:04] <ign0ramus> hint hint ;)
[01:05] <cthullu> ne one know how i would go about locating said bios file?
[01:05] <Serpardum> jgoogle
[01:05] <Serpardum> google
[01:05] <cthullu> its in my home directory right?
[01:05] <Serpardum> did you download it?
[01:05] <cthullu> yes i have it
[01:05] <Serpardum> so where did you put it/
[01:05] <cthullu> I have 3 different variations of it
[01:05] <cthullu> 2 of them to be used with a hex editor
[01:05] <ign0ramus> cthullu, you can always check here: http://pcsx-df.sourceforge.net/
[01:06] <cthullu> thanks ig
[01:06] <ign0ramus> cthullu, are you trying to find the file itself, or where to place it?
[01:06] <Serpardum> Hmm. when I run the psx and run, it asks for iso file
[01:06] <Serpardum> probably for the game
[01:06] <ign0ramus> Serpardum, yep iso is the game
[01:07] <cthullu> yes, its asking for an image of the game disc
[01:07] <ign0ramus> Serpardum, and psx iso's are HUGE
[01:07] <cthullu> hence you burn them to disc and run them from your cd or dvd drive
[01:07] <Serpardum> oh, ctulu
[01:07] <Serpardum> when you run it at hte top
[01:07] <Serpardum> configuration adn bios
[01:07] <Serpardum> and there you can point to the bios file
[01:07] <cthullu> aha
[01:07] <ign0ramus> almost all of my MAME, NES, SNES, and Sega games comined equal like 4 PSX iso's
[01:07] <cthullu> thanks
[01:07] <cthullu> ROFLCOPTERS
[01:08] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Is there a way to get the free disk meter in Dolphin?
[01:08] <cthullu> dude i just broke down an xbox360 iso, its MASSIVE
[01:08] <cthullu> fable 2 is huge
[01:08] <Serpardum> microsoft bloat
[01:08] <ign0ramus> cthullu, couple gigs?
[01:08] <cthullu> 15 of them all together
[01:08] <ign0ramus> O_o
[01:09] <cthullu> wich is odd considering how short the game is, but the hash file has been easy and most of the compilation code is pretty efficiant
[01:09] <cthullu> sry i cant spell
[01:09] <Serpardum> gawd bittorrent is so freaking slow
[01:09] <cthullu> screw bittorrent, get deluge
[01:09] <ign0ramus> i used to use Xebra or something like that for PSX - it was awesome. I should check if the project's still being developed
[01:09] <cthullu> or wine and run utorrent. My fav
[01:09] <Serpardum> I'm using ktorrent actuall
[01:10] <ign0ramus> bah! ktorrent ftw!
[01:10] <Serpardum> I mant torrent itself is so slow
[01:10] <cthullu> yeah ktorrent is nice
[01:10] <cthullu> oh
[01:10] <Serpardum> 17.9KiB/s
[01:10] <ign0ramus> only thing is ktorrent sucks for remote
[01:10] <Serpardum> SLOW
[01:10] <cthullu> ftp for it
[01:10] <ign0ramus> everything else about ktorrent is awesome (yes a kde4 app i really like!)
[01:10] <cthullu> well thats not the best advice, at least not if your running winblos
[01:11] <pixou> Hey merde..
[01:11] <Serpardum> 8 KiB/s  slooooooow
[01:12] <cthullu> doperoms.com <== not advertising, just praising
[01:12] <cthullu> they have EVERYTHING dude
[01:12] <Xou> y'a pas de français ici ? Oo"
[01:12] <ign0ramus> bookmarking....
[01:12] <ign0ramus> !fr | Xou
[01:13] <JontheEchidna> !help | cthullu
[01:13] <Xou> Thanks =D
[01:13] <JontheEchidna> er
[01:13] <JontheEchidna> !ops | cthullu
[01:13] <cthullu> Jontheechidna: you trying to tell me somethin? cuz im not gettin it
[01:14] <JontheEchidna> piracy is against freenode policy
[01:14] <ign0ramus> cthullu, you're in a gray area, but hardly and emergency
[01:14] <JontheEchidna> yeah, I thought he was a spam bot
[01:14] <cthullu> oh, sorry all
[01:14] <ign0ramus> JontheEchidna, you obviously don't understand roms
[01:14] <JontheEchidna> Oh, I understand roms quite well
[01:14] <cthullu> I however didnt say to download anything you dont already opwn
[01:14] <cthullu> that would be illegal
[01:15] <ign0ramus> JontheEchidna, why didn't you just tell him to not mention that stuff?  You don't need to call the ops command
[01:15] <cthullu> gotta have upc man
[01:15] <ruanl> connection on network interface eth0 failed  why?  help me
[01:15] <JontheEchidna> ign0ramus: against frenode policy to spam rom sites
[01:15] <cthullu> play nice you two
[01:15] <JontheEchidna> plus since I didn't read the backlog and thought he was just a join/spam guy
[01:15] <cthullu> dont make me tell mom
[01:16] <ign0ramus> JontheEchidna, he mentioned it and while it was a bad idea, just tell him... he's not a spammer
[01:16] <cthullu> so how bout that weather?
[01:16] <trappist> JontheEchidna: I know you're getting firebombed for calling ops, but generally enforcement (via ops) isn't the first approach to a channel problem.  step one, inform the offender politely.
[01:16] <ign0ramus> the weather is piracy!
[01:16] <cthullu> dude, new subject plz
[01:17] <bazhang> !piracy > cthullu
[01:17] <trappist> yeah I guess it's about that time :)
[01:17] <ign0ramus> cthullu, how bout those somalian pirates?
[01:17] <trappist> ign0ramus: I think the preferred term is somali ;)
[01:17] <JontheEchidna> trappist: yeah, I should have read the backlog to see if he was a real person first... anyway, moving on
[01:17] <cthullu> damn it dude, i understand about the piracy, can you plz STOP SPAMMING ME
[01:18] <cthullu> sory for the outburst but once is enough, iom not twelve
[01:18] <trappist> cthullu: erm, there's also a language policy
[01:18] <ign0ramus> so does anyone else get REALLY terrible battery life in Jaunty?
[01:18] <cthullu> I do
[01:18] <ruanl> connection on network interface eth0 failed
[01:18] <ruanl> connection on network interface eth0 failed
[01:18] <ruanl> connection on network interface eth0 failed
[01:18] <trappist> ign0ramus: haven't tried on betteries yet
[01:18] <ruanl> connection on network interface eth0 failed
[01:18] <ruanl> connection on network interface eth0 failed
[01:18] <trappist> sigh.
[01:18] <Seeker`> ruanl: please don't spam
[01:19] <ign0ramus> even with screen on like 50% brightness, i get like 15 minutes, where 8.04 was about an hour
[01:19] <JontheEchidna> 15 minutes O.o
[01:19] <ign0ramus> i know my battery sucks, but come on...
[01:19] <trappist> ign0ramus: what wifi chipset?
[01:19] <ign0ramus> JontheEchidna, i go to read an article while 'taking care of business' and the thing is dead
[01:19] <cthullu> you have to tell jaunty not twork so hard. Zenmap for that. but since its probably against policy to mention black hat apps as well your on your own
[01:19] <ign0ramus> trappist, intel
[01:19] <trappist> ign0ramus: also, do you happen to be running compiz?
[01:19] <ign0ramus> all effects are off
[01:20] <ign0ramus> due to the intel chipset ;)
[01:20] <nalioth> let us be civil
[01:20] <JontheEchidna> I'd recommend using powertop to see what's using the most juice
[01:20] <trappist> powertop, eh
[01:20] <trappist> never heard of that one... investigating
[01:20] <cthullu> htop better imho
[01:20] <ign0ramus> JontheEchidna, that's right... i did install that a couple of weeks ago, but i never actually used it...
[01:20] <cthullu> but they are the same thing arent they?
[01:21] <trappist> cthullu: bu the names I'm guessing they don't serve quite the same purpose
[01:21] <trappist> *by
[01:21]  * JontheEchidna never heard of htop :P
[01:21] <ign0ramus> htop is a more colorful version of top, afaik :)
[01:21] <cthullu> trappist: htop runs from term with remote capabilities i think
[01:22] <cthullu> im thinking of something else
[01:22] <cthullu> oh nmap
[01:22] <trappist> cthullu: right, I think powertop's job is to tell you what's consuming power, rather than say memory or cpu cycles
[01:22] <cthullu> no stay away from nmap
[01:22] <trappist> nmap's totally different.  a portscanner.
[01:22] <cthullu> ugly thing, its only good for ftp. (lies)
[01:22] <trappist> while we're at it, iptraf is really nice to see where your bandwidth is going
[01:23] <cthullu> sweet
[01:23] <cthullu> I was looking for something like that
[01:23] <trappist> there's also iftop
[01:23] <Serpardum> I've found portscanners to be useful in a lot of situations
[01:23] <daskreech1> ign0ramus: try pstree
[01:23] <cthullu> is there a prog that i can use to see what ip addys are on my router or hooking up to my open ports?
[01:23] <trappist> yeah I probably find a reason to use nmap 2-3 times a week
[01:24] <cthullu> that would be nice
[01:24] <ign0ramus> daskreech1, ran it, but i have no idea what i'm looking at (what's the significance of the structure?)
[01:24] <cthullu> pstree?
[01:24] <trappist> cthullu: I think you'd need to use functionality on the router for the first one, and I don't know what you mean by the second
[01:24] <Serpardum> on your router usually you use http and go to your router page
[01:25] <ign0ramus> daskreech1, oh... can i use this to see what python script(s) are using all my cpu?
[01:25] <Serpardum> usually it's like http://192.168.1.1 or 2.1 or soemthing
[01:25] <daskreech1> ign0ramus: Yeah
[01:25] <cthullu> trappist: I just want to find a way to find out the ip addresses involved in traffic on my network
[01:25] <ign0ramus> daskreech1, nice ... that's a new one for me.  thanks :)
[01:25] <trappist> cthullu: I do that by running iptraf on my router, which is a linux box.
[01:25] <cthullu> hmm
[01:26] <trappist> the router is the only guy on your network who really knows that stuff.
[01:26] <cthullu> i need to look into that
[01:26] <trappist> if I understand you right.
[01:26] <Serpardum> I now for windoze it would be netstat
[01:26] <Serpardum> not sure for *nix
[01:26] <trappist> Serpardum: netstat :)
[01:26] <trappist> Serpardum: try: sudo netstat -ntalp
[01:27] <cthullu> IPTRAF is AWESOME
[01:27] <trappist> it's true
[01:27] <trappist> shout it from the mountaintops, brutha
[01:28] <trappist> (actually don't - channel policy and all ;) )
[01:28] <cthullu> hmm, nmap, iptraf. Nice combo
[01:28] <Serpardum> ahh, yeah, that's similar to one I had on windwoze, a packet sniffer
[01:28] <trappist> Serpardum: wireshark for sniffing the packets
[01:29] <cthullu> how does wireshark work?
[01:29] <ign0ramus> now, i just need to patch my wireless drivers...
[01:29] <cthullu> what is your wifi card?
[01:29] <trappist> cthullu: apt-get install it, fire it up and see
[01:29] <Serpardum> probalby like most packet sniffers, it sits between the network card and the ethernet driver, copies the packets coming in and views them to you
[01:29] <daskreech1> spx isos are huge?
[01:29] <cthullu> trappist: true
[01:29] <daskreech1> I gues Ubuntu ISOs must be unbearable
[01:30] <cthullu> no, it reads in jaunty for me
[01:30] <cthullu> why does shit+left equal a "d" keybind in terminal?
[01:31] <cthullu> whats that all about?
[01:31] <ign0ramus> cthullu, Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02)
[01:31] <ign0ramus> cthullu, there is a patch for this card to put it into monitor mode
[01:32] <cthullu> ignoramus: hmmm I think when i was doing my research about aircrack-ng i found that intell has trouble with monitor mode. I would suggest a backtrack 4 live disc. You wwould have much better luck with it. rather than patching
[01:33] <cthullu> but i dont know what im talking about either so just ignore me
[01:33] <cthullu> oh there is a link for driver patches if you go to youtube and look up tuts for aircrack-ng
[01:33] <ign0ramus> cthullu, is BT4 ready?
[01:33] <cthullu> ign0ramus: yes they have released the final
[01:34] <cthullu> ign0ramus: but i dont know about hard disc installs yet, i think you need the installer from bt2
[01:34] <ign0ramus> cthullu, sweet!  i was looking at this a couple of months ago, but my hardy kernel didn't support the patch, so i was waiting for BT4 or a new kernel... both of which are now available :)
[01:35] <cthullu> ign0ramus: yessir. check it out. I would continue to google about the patch however. Just in case. I know that aircrack-ng is working fine for me but I have atheros card wich is supported out of box
[01:36] <ign0ramus> cthullu, i'll definitely check it out... some handy tools ;)
[01:36] <cthullu> if i remember correctly youll still need a patch for monitor mode. The same patch for intell works also for packet injections. not that youll need to do that...
[01:37] <cthullu> lol
[01:37] <ign0ramus> cthullu, i just want to analyze my network's all :)
[01:37] <cthullu> dont we all?
[01:37] <ign0ramus> for educational purposes!
[01:37] <cthullu> exactly
[01:37] <cthullu> gotta pentest. cant have open ports
[01:38] <ign0ramus> :)
[01:38] <Serpardum> there are plenty of programs to do that.  I had a packet sniffer on windose that listed like EVERYTHING about my network. Who was logged in on each machine, etc..
[01:38] <cthullu> you never what could happen. someone might actually write a virus for *nix
[01:38] <Serpardum> umm. ther ehave been plenty of viruses for *nix
[01:38] <ign0ramus> cthullu, well you saw the botnet for dd-wrt devices, right?
[01:39] <cthullu> ign0ramus: whoe, no i didnt
[01:39] <darkenigma2652> I think there are somewhere around 900 viruses/malware for just Linux
[01:39] <Serpardum> if you believe you are safe because you're on linux you got another think coming
[01:39] <darkenigma2652> And a few thousand for *NIX as a whole
[01:39] <cthullu> oh i know
[01:39] <ign0ramus> cthullu, http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/03/23/2257252
[01:39] <cthullu> Ive had to reinstall ubuntu 6 times over the past week
[01:40] <darkenigma2652> Why?
[01:40] <Serpardum> why?
[01:40] <cthullu> viruses
[01:40] <Serpardum> ... you behind a router?
[01:40] <darkenigma2652> o.o
[01:40] <trappist> cthullu: that's unlikely
[01:40] <cthullu> lol, trust me that didnt matter
[01:40] <Serpardum> was that a yes or a no?
[01:40] <darkenigma2652> Did you have a firewall up?
[01:40] <ign0ramus> cthullu, something tells me you don't have the healthiest of internet habits ;)
[01:40] <Serpardum> "that didn't matter" ususally means no
[01:40] <cthullu> no its not, not when you get into a script war. its very likly
[01:41] <darkenigma2652> LOL, good point ign)ramus
[01:41] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus*
[01:41] <trappist> cthullu: what viruses.
[01:41] <cthullu> Im an admitted pirate. my comp gets all kinds of stds. I dont FOR ANY reason suggest that anyone pirate anything for any reason
[01:41] <cthullu> you saw that disclainmer right?
[01:42] <darkenigma2652> trappist: I just said there around 900 viruses for Linux, and a lot of rootkits and stuff are cross-platform
[01:42] <ign0ramus> cthullu, people are specifically targeting your machine, or you're just making bad decisions?
[01:42] <cthullu> both
[01:42] <ign0ramus> lol
[01:42] <darkenigma2652> lol
[01:42] <Serpardum> he said "scriptwar" so sounds like both
[01:42] <cthullu> eh, this box is just a toy
[01:42] <darkenigma2652> So is my old laptop
[01:43] <trappist> darkenigma2652: there are viruses for linux.  I dunno about 900, certainly not that have ever been seen in the wild.  maybe if you include "worms".  but it's kinda hard to get infected, anyway.
[01:43] <cthullu> i dont care if it breaks, ill just put it back together
[01:43] <Serpardum> install for the 7th time
[01:43] <cthullu> unless numbnuts manages to corrupt my master cylinder again. eeew
[01:43] <ign0ramus> O_o
[01:43] <cthullu> that sucked
[01:43] <Serpardum> your mbr?  heh
[01:43] <cthullu> he did from an auto batch
[01:43] <ign0ramus> cthullu, just one person?
[01:43] <darkenigma2652> trappist: I'm fairly certain I got that number from wikipedia somewhere. And yes, it is hard to be infected, especially if you have a firewall
[01:43] <cthullu> yeah just one person
[01:44] <ign0ramus> cthullu, is this what you'd call 'friendly competition'?
[01:44] <cthullu> this guys good though. he put puppy linux on a toaster and a coffee machine
[01:44] <trappist> sigh.
[01:44]  * ign0ramus groans
[01:44] <cthullu> yeah its freindly
[01:44] <darkenigma2652> OpenBSD + Firewall + ClamAV as daemon = What's a virus?
[01:44] <cthullu> im learning alot about pentesting and network security. wich was my gaol
[01:44] <cthullu> and its fun
[01:45] <ign0ramus> BSD != Linux
[01:45] <Serpardum> waht's this ClamAV?  free?  pay?
[01:45] <darkenigma2652> BSD = Unix
[01:45] <cthullu> free
[01:45] <ign0ramus> Serpardum, it's free
[01:45] <Serpardum> apt-get get it for me?
[01:45] <Serpardum> let me see
[01:45] <cthullu> yep
[01:45] <darkenigma2652> ClamAV is open source just like most *nux apps
[01:45] <darkenigma2652> *nix*
[01:45] <hydrogen> clamav mostly protects against windows viruses
[01:45] <cthullu> yep
[01:45] <hydrogen> its not really necessary
[01:45] <hydrogen> if you arn't running some sort of server
[01:45] <ign0ramus> actually BitDefender also makes a free Linux A/V app
[01:46] <hydrogen> or shared system
[01:46] <cthullu> thats what they say on the site
[01:46] <Serpardum> who knows, I may run an http server
[01:46] <cthullu> hey where can i get a sandbox?
[01:46] <Serpardum> you have one
[01:46] <darkenigma2652> There's a bunch of AV programs for Linux,but few of them actually fight *NIX viruses XD
[01:46] <Serpardum> a sandbox is just a machine you test things on
[01:46] <cthullu> lol
[01:46] <cthullu> well in that case yes this is a sandbox
[01:46] <hydrogen> the hardware store..
[01:46] <darkenigma2652> HIPS is awesome for AM programs
[01:46] <afeijo> I have a folder with stubern files that I cannot remove, any stronger command to that?
[01:47] <cthullu> speaking of conficker sux
[01:47] <darkenigma2652> rm -R (folder)
[01:47] <afeijo> no
[01:47] <darkenigma2652> sudo rm -R (folder)
[01:47] <Serpardum> sudo rm -R
[01:47] <afeijo> no
[01:47] <darkenigma2652> is what i meant
[01:47] <darkenigma2652> ?
[01:47] <afeijo> dont work
[01:47] <Serpardum> no what?
[01:47] <cthullu> nodo?
[01:47] <Serpardum> what does it say?
[01:47] <ign0ramus> no go?
[01:47] <cthullu> what is nodo?
[01:47] <darkenigma2652> lol
[01:47] <ign0ramus> dodo?
[01:47] <darkenigma2652> LOL
[01:47] <Serpardum> no doodoo?
[01:47] <cthullu> hehe
[01:47] <darkenigma2652> STOP MAKING ME LAUGH
[01:47] <ign0ramus> i hate all of you.
[01:48] <afeijo> impossible to remove 'filename' input/output error
[01:48] <darkenigma2652> Great, my ears just popped -_-
[01:48] <Serpardum> ew.
[01:48] <Serpardum> sounds like you might have to scan  your disk for errors
[01:48] <cthullu> i found a file extension for unix named .fuk
[01:48] <darkenigma2652> LOL
[01:48] <Serpardum> Tehre is a resteraunt near us called "Phuket Thai"
[01:48] <cthullu> lol
[01:48] <cthullu> is it any good?
[01:48] <Serpardum> never been there
[01:49] <afeijo> its a ntfs extension, does it matter?
[01:49] <cthullu> ok so i got wireshark, and this gui, while its all pretty and nice. doesnt make any sense
[01:49] <Serpardum> you hav eto make sense out of it
[01:49] <cthullu> yeah im trying unsuccessfully
[01:49] <darkenigma2652> lol
[01:50] <Serpardum> most packet sniffers you click on the packet and it shows you the data sent
[01:50] <darkenigma2652> cthullu, you sound like my bro
[01:50] <Serpardum> never used wireshark
[01:50] <afeijo> any mount scheme to help me remove those files?
[01:50] <Serpardum> ntfs is windows file system
[01:50] <afeijo> I know
[01:50] <Serpardum> nt file sysytem
[01:50] <cthullu> darkenigma2652: im scared
[01:50] <darkenigma2652> cthullu: how so?
[01:50] <Serpardum> I think you should check your disk for errors
[01:51] <innovate2000> I just dd zero'd a brand new 1TB drive (used Gparted to format the drive - but the computer was set to AHCI - but that didn't work - 3 of 10 drives were "damaged" - once I switched to non-AHCI the rest of the drives formatted (ext3) without errors. I read that I might be able to reformat the drive if I zero it out first) - it took most of the day - the drive activity light just stopped - but...
[01:51] <innovate2000> ...the bash prompt has not returned - and I've read that I should not stop the process for fear of further damaging the drive and rendering it unusable. I have a few more cycles of this to do on this drive and the others as well - but I have no idea what to do now - should I continue to just wait?
[01:51] <cthullu> darkenigma2652: because i know me all to well and Im unnerved by the idea that there is someone in the world who thinks like me
[01:51] <darkenigma2652> cthullu:... LOL
[01:52] <cthullu> darkenigma2652: bet that sounds like him too huh?
[01:52] <darkenigma2652> cthullu: I know my way of thinking is a fusion of many others, making me have split-personalities; and no, that does not sound too much like him
[01:53] <ign0ramus> afeijo, this file is mounted?
[01:53] <cthullu> darkenigma2652: good
[01:53] <afeijo> ign0ramus: the partition is mounted, yes
[01:53] <darkenigma2652> cthullu: Now, if someone started talking like me and acts exactly like me... RUN FOR THE FREAKING HILLS  O.O
[01:53] <ign0ramus> afeijo, the file you're trying to delete is on your Windows partition?
[01:53] <afeijo> hey, ign0ramus, I own you a big Thanks, you helped me the other day to make Java work, in the second it happened you disapear from irc lol
[01:54] <Serpardum> what does "ldconfig deferred processing now taking place" mean in english?
[01:54] <afeijo> ign0ramus: yes it is on my windows partition
[01:54] <ign0ramus> afeijo, hey, np.  that's how it always works ;)
[01:54] <ign0ramus> afeijo, are you able to delete it if you boot into Windows?
[01:54] <darkenigma2652> ldconfig = system config after new libraries are installed
[01:54] <darkenigma2652> makes them useable
[01:54] <Serpardum> shoudl I reboot?
[01:54] <afeijo> ign0ramus: I cant use my windows vista anymore, it rebeled last year
[01:54] <Serpardum> or is it running in background?
[01:55] <ign0ramus> Serpardum, that just means that the system is returning to normal after installing packages
[01:55] <Serpardum> ahh, okay
[01:55] <darkenigma2652> Run GParted and remove it XD
[01:55] <darkenigma2652> Vista must die o.o
[01:55] <afeijo> darkenigma2652: its an solution
[01:55] <ign0ramus> afeijo, save your files you want from vista and nuke it from orbit
[01:55] <ign0ramus> its the only way to be sure.
[01:55] <afeijo> I should copy all other files to change that partition to ext3
[01:55] <darkenigma2652> XP is good, I even liked 2k,  but Vista is flat-out terrible
[01:55] <Serpardum> all in all vista is a, well, terrible os
[01:56] <afeijo> indeed
[01:56] <afeijo> I could try win7
[01:56] <ign0ramus> afeijo, ext3/ext4 what ever you'd like
[01:56] <Serpardum> xp was good, 95 was good, or was that 98
[01:56] <cthullu> xp is awesome with litghtstep
[01:56] <Serpardum> me was HORRIBLE, I still have nightmares about that one
[01:56] <afeijo> ext4? I thought it was 2 and 3
[01:56] <afeijo> 98 wasgood
[01:56] <darkenigma2652> ext4 is new, but buggy
[01:56] <darkenigma2652> Have any of you heard of ReactOS?
[01:56] <sakirious> ext4 isn't too bad. I use it on my /home/
[01:56] <afeijo> and raiserfs? no go after the author killed his wife? lol
[01:56] <ign0ramus> afeijo, i'm using ext4... some say its unstable, but I haven't had any issues (yet)...
[01:56] <Serpardum> Just now
[01:57] <sakirious> ReiserFS was nice and fast.
[01:57] <afeijo> ign0ramus: what are the improvs on ext4?
[01:57] <ign0ramus> afeijo, RFS was actually really good
[01:57] <ign0ramus> afeijo, journaling, mostly afaik (i'm no FS guru)
[01:57] <darkenigma2652> ReactOS is an open source re-write of the Windows NT kernel, compatible with Windows up to XP
[01:58] <darkenigma2652> It's at version 0.3.9 atm and is supposed to be installable on a normal computer vy 0.5
[01:58] <darkenigma2652> by*
[01:58] <ign0ramus> afeijo, Torvalds said it was good to ship, so i'm trusting him ;)
[01:58] <afeijo> hehe
[01:58] <afeijo> good luck
[01:58] <ign0ramus> he also said kde now sucks :(
[01:58] <afeijo> I could test it with a small partition, I have one here available
[01:58] <afeijo> or my 320 gb sata that I intend tosell
[01:58] <darkenigma2652> Ext3 = stable, Ext4 = fast
[01:59] <afeijo> kde rocks
[01:59] <darkenigma2652> KDE3 = stable, KDE4 = pretty
[01:59] <darkenigma2652> lol
[01:59] <ign0ramus> afeijo, kde3 rocks
[01:59] <darkenigma2652> Good timing
[01:59] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, you got it
[01:59] <afeijo> kde4 = fag lol
[01:59] <sakirious> KDE4.2 = win
[01:59] <Walzmyn> torvalds didn't say KDE sucked, he said it wasn't quite ready and he didn't want to fool with fiddling iwth it
[01:59] <ign0ramus> afeijo, lolwut?
[01:59] <afeijo> kde4 remind me vista, so much fag visual stuff hahahaha
[01:59] <ign0ramus> Walzmyn, ok, so maybe i took a poetic license on the quote... ;)
[01:59] <darkenigma2652> Anything runs better than Vista...
[01:59] <sakirious> Not really.
[01:59] <Serpardum> then it wasnt' a quote then was it?  it was a misquote
[01:59] <Walzmyn> ign0ramus: well, maybe
[02:00] <sakirious> Vista was pretty solid on my system.
[02:00] <darkenigma2652> lol
[02:00] <ign0ramus> afeijo, you really shouldn't use that word here.  i don't care, but you will get warned
[02:00] <afeijo> I used vista for 1 month, than it simple rebeled
[02:00] <Walzmyn> afeijo: yer nuts. KDE has much better and way more flashy stuff that vista
[02:00] <Serpardum> one thing on vista, turn off that frekaing broken UAC
[02:00]  * afeijo appoligise
[02:00] <sakirious> ^
[02:00] <darkenigma2652> My grandma's PC has a 3.46 GHz proc, but is running Vista on 503 MB LOL
[02:00] <darkenigma2652> So it's still slow as hell
[02:00] <darkenigma2652> MB of RAM*
[02:00] <ign0ramus> afeijo, doesn't bother me, but rules are strict here, and i don't want to see you get kicked.  i think you're funny
[02:00] <Serpardum> I wouldn't run any windows < 1GB.
[02:00] <Serpardum> this machine has 3
[02:01] <afeijo> ign0ramus: thanks :)
[02:01] <sakirious> 8gb here.
[02:01] <afeijo> 3 gb here, no swap
[02:01] <ign0ramus> afeijo, just lookin' out! :)
[02:01] <darkenigma2652> I'm putting 2 GB of RAM into as soon as I can get my hands on it again
[02:01] <Serpardum> running in vitural machine here in vista
[02:01] <Walzmyn> 500 megs of ram on an >3Ghz processor? arin't there laws against that?
[02:01] <afeijo> gay is a ok word?
[02:01] <Serpardum> and its suprisinly fast
[02:01] <Serpardum> it depends on how it's used I think
[02:01] <Serpardum> gay has kinda not meant gay for a long time
[02:01] <darkenigma2652> Walzmyn: There should be
[02:01] <Serpardum> the funny thing is, it used to mean happy
[02:01] <afeijo> indeed
[02:02] <ign0ramus> afeijo, you should avoid any connotations of sexual orientation when discussing computers :)
[02:02] <darkenigma2652> I'm gay when I have lots of sugar ^_^
[02:02] <ign0ramus> unless you just wanna get gay with linux :)
[02:02] <afeijo> ign0ramus: but we was talking about windows !!!!!!!!!
[02:02] <Serpardum> I still remember that old song, "I'm so pretty, I'm so pretty and gay"
[02:02] <darkenigma2652> STOP CREEPING ME OUT!
[02:02] <claudio-tux> hi
[02:02] <claudio-tux> good
[02:02] <Serpardum> hi
[02:02] <Serpardum> bad
[02:02] <afeijo> LOL
[02:02]  * Walzmyn laughs
[02:02] <ign0ramus> oh man, tonight is a trainwreck
[02:02] <darkenigma2652> It's "I feel pretty" not "I'm so pretty"
[02:02] <claudio-tux> :)
[02:03] <Serpardum> whatever, if ign0ramus can missquote so can I :P
[02:03]  * Walzmyn does not know this song
[02:03] <darkenigma2652> I feel violent, oh so violent, oh so violent and hunting for prey...
[02:03] <afeijo> I had a cold, glad that I didnt oinc when I sneze
[02:03] <ign0ramus> one day, someone will be looking through the kubuntu irc logs, and they'll just be like 'wtf, dude?'
[02:03] <darkenigma2652> And I pity, those who F*** with me today!
[02:03] <claudio-tux> how install new theme in kubuntu 9.04?
[02:03] <ign0ramus> claudio-tux, www.kde-look.org
[02:03] <afeijo> gay themes?
[02:03] <darkenigma2652> That's my metal re-write of "I feel pretty" lol
[02:03] <ign0ramus> lol
[02:04] <Serpardum> one... *sigh*
[02:04] <claudio-tux> afeijo: for you?
[02:04] <ign0ramus> haha!
[02:04] <afeijo> yeah, but usually I'm more dark themes
[02:04] <afeijo> tron 3 ! cool
[02:04] <claudio-tux> ok
[02:04] <Serpardum> emo?  ewwww
[02:04] <darkenigma2652> Glossy black and gray with plasma-blue accents... *drools*
[02:04] <afeijo> claudio-tux: gz, youre brazilian
[02:05] <sakirious> I can't find a bright theme that I like.
[02:05] <Walzmyn> oh, yeah, i just remembered why i came here - is there a way to set a default view for dirs in dolphin?
[02:05] <Serpardum> The one installed with the iso is too bright for me
[02:05] <sakirious> They all are way too clashy with colors.
[02:05] <claudio-tux> yes
[02:05] <claudio-tux> what?
[02:05] <afeijo> Walzmyn: hahaha, you forgot why you come?
[02:05] <afeijo> claudio-tux: me too
[02:05]  * Walzmyn never notices the themes
[02:05] <darkenigma2652> Um... re-word that please
[02:06] <Walzmyn> afeijo: you seem to have sex on the brain.
[02:06] <Serpardum> come for the quesiton, stay for the conversation, eh?
[02:06] <ign0ramus> I come here for the stimulation
[02:06] <afeijo> Walzmyn: you dont!??
[02:06] <claudio-tux> ok, good
[02:06] <afeijo> Serpardum: thats what I usualy do
[02:06] <Serpardum> O.o
[02:06] <darkenigma2652> LOL
[02:06] <Walzmyn> afeijo: i'm adult enough not to talk about it.
[02:07] <ign0ramus> i wish i were :(
[02:07] <darkenigma2652> We are completely off the subject of Kubuntu...
[02:07] <afeijo> I'm not going that way
[02:07] <ign0ramus> no ... that dolphin question... i'm checking it now
[02:07] <Serpardum> At least I'm glad that KTorrent can't keep track of time
[02:07] <Walzmyn> exactly, so, is there a way to set a default view in dolphin?
[02:07] <Serpardum> It started at 9 hours an hour ago, now it's 3 hours
[02:07] <darkenigma2652> Btw, found decent dark theme for KDE: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/darkPearl+for+QtCurve?content=97644
[02:07] <afeijo> Walzmyn: you want what view type?
[02:07] <darkenigma2652> I'll look for me
[02:07] <darkenigma2652> more*
[02:07] <darkenigma2652> I found me!
[02:07] <Walzmyn> you can set EVERYTHING to use one setting or to remember settings for each. But i'd liek to make the preveiw the one it comes up with if i've not set one
[02:07] <afeijo> Serpardum: I dont use ktorrent any more, suck too much CPU
[02:08] <darkenigma2652> I like Deluge
[02:08] <ign0ramus> speaking of dolphin, has anyone tried the "~/.compose-cache" trick?
[02:08] <darkenigma2652> Simple, but lots of options
[02:08] <Serpardum> lol, it's freaking black and white
[02:08] <Serpardum> what si the ~/.compsoe-cache trick?
[02:08] <Walzmyn> ign0ramus: what is that trick supposed to do?
[02:09] <ign0ramus> Walzmyn, Serpardum: it allegedly dramatically speeds up the loading times of kde apps
[02:09] <Serpardum> running it, deleteing it?
[02:09] <ign0ramus> it seems to work for me, although i didn't benchmark it
[02:09] <Serpardum> editing it?
[02:09] <ign0ramus> Serpardum, creating it and accessing it via konqueror/dolphin
[02:10] <Walzmyn> you just create a directory and it's supposed to improve your machine?
[02:10] <Serpardum> it's a cache directory
[02:10] <ign0ramus> here's a link http://kdemonkey.blogspot.com/2008/04/magic-trick.html
[02:10] <Serpardum> it probably saves a lot of files here
[02:10] <ign0ramus> that wasn't were i read it yesterday, but it explains just as well
[02:11] <darkenigma2652> There's NOTHING on deviantart for KDE themes
[02:11] <ign0ramus> "For those curious about what is going on here, this enables an optimization which Lubos (of general KDE speediness fame) came up with some time ago and was then rewritten and integrated into libx11."
[02:12] <darkenigma2652> Oh, I rather like this one: http://falco101.deviantart.com/art/Technica-Theme-81607707
[02:12] <ign0ramus> i will monitor it to see just how huge this file gets... but it does make dolphin pop up almost instantly
[02:13] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, icons are too Mac-y
[02:13] <Walzmyn> so you just open the dir in dolphin after you make it?
[02:13] <ign0ramus> Walzmyn, yeah...
[02:13] <ign0ramus> Walzmyn, and you'll see that a new file has been created, the cache
[02:13] <Serpardum> basically just create teh direcotry shoudl do it
[02:14] <darkenigma2652> This is fairly nice for KDE3: http://hcalves.deviantart.com/art/Coal-KDE-3-x-Theme-85735964
[02:14] <ign0ramus> again, i don't know how big this file is going to get, but it is working nicely for now
[02:14] <Serpardum> actually ign0ramus I read about it, what it does is creates a hash of waht it loads that loads up faster than reading the big file
[02:14] <Serpardum> so it shoudl remain small
[02:14] <ign0ramus> Serpardum, cool.  good to know
[02:14] <ign0ramus> try it - open dolphin before and after having this file.  it made a noticeable difference for me
[02:15] <innovate2000> I just dd zero'd a brand new 1TB drive (used Gparted to format the drive - but the computer was set to AHCI - but that didn't work - 3 of 10 drives were "damaged" - once I switched to non-AHCI the rest of the drives formatted (ext3) without errors. I read that I might be able to reformat the drive if I zero it out first) - it took most of the day - the drive activity light just stopped - but...
[02:15] <innovate2000> ...the bash prompt has not returned - and I've read that I should not stop the process for fear of further damaging the drive and rendering it unusable. I have a few more cycles of this to do on this drive and the others as well - but I have no idea what to do now - should I continue to just wait?
[02:15] <Walzmyn> didn't look like dolphin opened that much quicker to me
[02:15] <ign0ramus> Walzmyn, it made a difference for me... you can always just rm the thing if you don't like it
[02:15] <dac> join #autistis
[02:16] <Walzmyn> ign0ramus: can't see where it's hurting anything, i'll leave it
[02:16] <dac> join #autistic
[02:16] <ign0ramus> Walzmyn, you have to access the folder with dolphin first, to have the hashed cache entered
[02:16] <Walzmyn> oh - is there anyreason why you can't format a 500gb HDD with fat32?
[02:16] <Walzmyn> ign0ramus: did
[02:17] <ign0ramus> Walzmyn, i dunno, just something i stumbled upon the other day and found it interesting
[02:17] <Serpardum> umm. no
[02:17] <Serpardum> you don't have to acces sit
[02:17] <innovate2000> In System Monitor for CPU% (for the "dd" task)  that the drive is sleep
[02:17] <Serpardum> I just oepned a program, did a dir in it and it created the file
[02:17] <innovate2000> Actually it says "disk sleep"
[02:17] <Serpardum> I did run kate but didn't load anythign
[02:17] <ign0ramus> Serpardum, that's what the article i read yesterday said... the blogger probably didn't know what he was talking about (surprise)
[02:17] <Serpardum> they suusally don't ^^
[02:18] <Serpardum> create it, run a program, look in the dir and see if a file exists
[02:18] <Serpardum> I did, and it did
[02:18] <Walzmyn> if this is such a trick, why dosen't the folks that make that application have this installed as a default?
[02:18] <Walzmyn> innovate2000: just so you're not being ignored - I have no idea
[02:19] <ign0ramus> Walzmyn, i make no claims about it, i just read about it and asked if anyone else had heard of it...
[02:19] <innovate2000> Thanks - I am researching if there is a command to "touch" or wake a disk - since it was supposed to be zero'd I cannot mount it -
[02:19] <Walzmyn> ign0ramus: the explination makes sense. I'm just wondering why this is not a default setup
[02:20] <ign0ramus> Walzmyn, oh ok... yeah, i was kind of wondering that too... i thought maybe because the cache would grow too large, but Serpardum said it would remain small
[02:20] <Walzmyn> innovate2000: i can't even get parted to accknowledge that my external is plugged in so i can format it
[02:20] <Walzmyn> ign0ramus: it should just be the apps you use, as opposed to the one in / that's premade for everything
[02:21] <innovate2000> Walzmyn: an enclosure?
[02:21] <ign0ramus> Walzmyn, that seems to be the case
[02:21] <Walzmyn> innovate2000: yes
[02:21] <innovate2000> I guess it really doesn't matter - I too am using USB - the Sabrent 5 in 1
[02:22] <innovate2000> Most of the time (99%) Ubuntu & Windows plays nice with it -
[02:22] <Walzmyn> my 100 gb works fine, but the 500 is giving problems
[02:22] <innovate2000> I have a had an enclosure or two that did not (with Ubuntu)
[02:22] <ign0ramus> bbl, shower
[02:22] <Serpardum> thank gawd, I wondered what that smell was
[02:22] <innovate2000> Walzmyn: What is the 500 formatted as?
[02:22] <ign0ramus_dirty> i heard that!
[02:23] <Walzmyn> I had a couple of partitions on it, big one formatted ext3. I deleted the partitions to make one big fat32 and now parted won't even see the drive
[02:23]  * Serpardum whistles tunelessly
[02:23] <Serpardum> you try fdisk?
[02:23] <Serpardum> or whati's it claled.. hmm
[02:23] <Walzmyn> fsck
[02:23] <innovate2000> Walzmyn: I would try testdisk - I've had great results with it - either Windows or Ubuntu
[02:23] <Walzmyn> havn't yet. that was last week. i've spent this week trying to get over the filesystem on thinkpads bug
[02:24] <innovate2000> yuck!
[02:24] <Walzmyn> innovate2000: will do when i get back on that project. That drive is to be my backup drive
[02:24] <Serpardum> Man, if I ever find this peer that keep resetting people's connections I'm gonna kick his butt.
[02:25] <Walzmyn> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/371191
[02:25] <Serpardum> Hmm.. he's stephen
[02:27] <innovate2000> Walzmyn: if the drive is FAT32, you may also try PC Inspector File Recovery (free: finds files and partitions - but in my opinion not as good as testdisk for restoring partitions) asd Zero Assumption Recovery ($$ - IMO - an AWESOME app for recovering files in the directory structure (mostly))
[02:28] <innovate2000> in the original directory structure - was what I meant to say
[02:28] <Walzmyn> innovate2000: i paid a hundred bucks for some recovery program a while back (windows installed to the external that was supposed to be off instead of the internal) That piece of software was awesome.
[02:29] <Walzmyn> innovate2000: but there's no data on the drive I want to keep. I want to get it working so i can use it as a backup
[02:29] <innovate2000> Well then you're set (if you need file recovery) - I think all you need is a partiton fix (and possibly MBR fix)
[02:29] <cthullu> ROFLCOPTERS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fCHoI0h7Tc thats my opinion of internet piracy. P.S. If you dont want me to have it, dont put it in digital format. *DISCLAIMER* I do not condone piracy. I am not suggesting that you steal things. I do however suggest that you make your own decisions...
[02:30] <cthullu> *you will never have to pay to sing along...*
[02:32] <innovate2000> or I've read (coz I'm in the same boat) about dd zeroing the drive to get it back to "factory" state - or you can try the disk utilities for the brand of disk. I often connect a disk I am unsure of it's responsiveness (because knoppix/gparted or other live distro does not recognize it) to a windows computer and check if it's being seen by disk management
[02:33] <cthullu> whoe
[02:33] <cthullu> tell me about this zeroing of a drive?
[02:33] <cthullu> will that fix my master cylider?
[02:33] <daskreech1> innovate2000: oooh 1TB
[02:33] <Walzmyn> HAH innovate2000, "factory state" would be sticking the thing next to one of those big magnets they pick cars up with
[02:33] <marcox25> anyones know where ots kde 4.3beta1 for kubuntu 9.04?
[02:33] <innovate2000> Walzmyn: LOL
[02:34] <Walzmyn> innovate2000: i'm making that up about HDDs but back in the days of floppies that was exactly how they "formatted" them
[02:34] <innovate2000> cthullu: it's just using dd to copy zeros directly to a device
[02:34] <cthullu> is it possible to fix a corrupted master cylinder?
[02:35] <innovate2000> cthullu: the command: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdx bs=4096 (and other possible args)
[02:36] <innovate2000> cthullu: BUT YOU MUST BE VERY CAREFUL TO NOT DO THE WRONG DRIVE!
[02:36] <daskreech1> marcox25: Where ots ?
[02:36]  * Walzmyn seconds innovate2000
[02:36] <innovate2000> cthullu: test for drive: fdisk -l
[02:36] <cthullu> innovate2000: i dont get it. If i only have 1 drive and no partitions then how could i have more than one master cylinder?
[02:37] <marcox25> anyones know where it is kde 4.3beta1 for kubuntu 9.04?
[02:37] <innovate2000> Walzmyn: I am one of those "back in the day" guys! :P (floppy really meant floppy 5.25!)
[02:37] <cthullu> WOOT i got ff7 pc to run. FINALLY
[02:37] <Walzmyn> innovate2000: i used some of those
[02:38] <daskreech1> innovate2000: YOu mean the floppy floppy?
[02:38] <Walzmyn> cthullu: sweet, i love the FF series
[02:38] <Walzmyn> daskreech1: right. I always wondered why the smaller ones kept the name when they didn't bend
[02:38] <cthullu> Walzmyn: it was a royal pain
[02:38] <Walzmyn> well, not more than once anyway.
[02:38] <innovate2000> da floppiest!
[02:38] <innovate2000> LOL
[02:38] <cthullu> has ne one else heard this theme song for piratebay?
[02:39] <cthullu> floppiest?
[02:39] <daskreech1> Did you hear the theme song for KDE4 ?
[02:39] <cthullu> sounds like a bad black hat psuedonym
[02:39] <Walzmyn> what's a ne?
[02:39] <cthullu> any
[02:39] <cthullu> =
[02:39] <cthullu> ne
[02:40] <cthullu> any*
[02:40] <cthullu> sry im a bit tarded atm
[02:41]  * Walzmyn sniffs
[02:41] <Walzmyn> you smell better
[02:41] <ign0ramus> thanks!
[02:41] <ign0ramus> cthullu, http://cristgaming.com/pirate.swf
[02:42] <cthullu> ign0ramus: ROFL YES!
[02:42] <cthullu> ign0ramus: view source . Its mine!
[02:43] <ign0ramus> and as soon as i close that flash tab, i get notified that my sound device failed, and is falling back to PulseAudio... :/
[02:44] <ign0ramus> that happens all too often. like in early versions of amarok, where xine would just fail for no reason
[02:46] <cthullu> speaking of piracy, The first fiction book written about video game piracy was in the Hardy Boys series
[02:46] <cthullu> I know no one cares
[02:49] <daskreech1> The Hardy Boys had Video games?
[02:49] <daskreech1>  I don't remember that
[02:49] <daskreech1>  Bobbsey twins maybe
[02:49] <ign0ramus> I think Encyclopedia Brown compiled his own binaries
[02:52] <cthullu> no the book was in a series with the hardy boys
[02:52] <cthullu> incadently the game that was being pirated in the book turned out to be real. and pirated
[02:52] <daskreech1> Man I haven't read Encyclopedia Brown in yeeears
[02:52] <daskreech1> Monopoly ?
[02:53] <cthullu> no it was something to do with killers bees
[02:53] <cthullu> it was for nes
[02:55] <ign0ramus> Hmm.. here's a rental agency web site, but something looks familiar... anyone? http://hmrgroup.co.uk/
[02:55] <Gamarok__> guys is there any ways i can i hide my widgets
[02:55] <ign0ramus> Gamarok__, just wear boxers
[02:55] <cthullu> um thats what happens when your logo goes open source
[02:55] <Gamarok__> i mean hide em for just a while
[02:55] <cthullu> any notice the color scheme?
[02:56] <Gamarok__> that was a bad joke ign0ramus
[02:56] <ign0ramus> Gamarok__, i know. i'm terrible.
[02:56] <ign0ramus> I'm also off for drinks.
[02:56] <ign0ramus> Gnite all!
[03:00] <daskreech1> Gamarok__: Hide the widgets?
[03:00] <marcox25> anyones know where it is kde 4.3beta1 for kubuntu 9.04?
[03:01] <marcox25> anyones know where it is kde 4.3beta1 for kubuntu 9.04?
[03:01] <daskreech1> marcox25: It's being imported to Koala then Jackalope
[03:02] <daskreech1> marcox25: I would hope It should up by Monday
[03:03] <marcox25> monday!
[03:03] <marcox25> OMG
[03:03] <marcox25> i want it now!
[03:07] <daskreech1> :-)
[03:29] <Being_Tsukasa> whats the thing i use to download stuff in Kubuntu called?
[03:30] <Being_Tsukasa> i knew where it was on the 8.04 release... but cant find it on the new one
[03:33] <faileas> Being_Tsukasa: packages?
[03:34] <faileas> iirc there's a new package manager replacing adept called kpackagekit
[03:34] <faileas> i use apt tho ;)
[03:40] <Being_Tsukasa> is it possible to get adept still... i hate the new package manager
[03:41] <daskreech1> Being_Tsukasa: Which one?
[03:42] <Being_Tsukasa> i cant stand the new kpackagekit... i preferred adept...
[03:43] <bazhang> !info adept | Being_Tsukasa
[03:46] <Being_Tsukasa> ah, beautiful, i found what i was looking for ^_^
[03:49] <daskreech1> What don't you like about kpackagekit?
[03:50] <Gamarok__> well in my opinion adept wasn't all that good synaptic is a pretty decent package manager but i have'nt tried kpackagekit
[03:51] <daskreech1> Which should prove that it doesn't have to be usable
[03:51] <daskreech1>  Zing!
[03:52] <daskreech1> Doh wrong Chan :)
[03:53] <daskreech1> I likd adept better than synaptic
[03:54] <Gamarok__> dunno it could be because i have been using ubuntu for a pretty long time it could be the reason i am more suited towards synaptic
[03:55] <Serpardum[Away]> 31 minutes left :/
[03:55] <daskreech1> Migh be the same for me
[03:56] <daskreech1> Though I like Adept's debtags
[04:02] <Being_Tsukasa> whats a linux compatible dc++ client?
[04:06] <daskreech1> !ino dcpp
[04:06] <daskreech1> !info dcpp
[04:06] <daskreech1> !search scpp
[04:06] <daskreech1> !search dcpp
[04:07] <daskreech1> !info directocnnect
[04:07] <daskreech1> !info directconnect
[04:07] <daskreech1> Liar
[04:07] <Serpardum> !info direct
[04:07] <daskreech1> !info dcgui
[04:07] <daskreech1> There you go
[04:14] <Serpardum> !info iptraf
[04:15] <Serpardum> top says iptraf is using 91% of my cpu but I don't see it running. wwtf?
[04:16] <daskreech1> wha't the PID?
[04:16] <Serpardum> 6023
[04:16] <Serpardum> running as root
[04:18] <Serpardum> root      6023     1 90   942  1484   0 17:28 ?        R    153:58 iptraf
[04:20] <Serpardum> I just killed it.  I ran the program earlier and closed it, guess it didn't close fully
[04:22] <Serpardum> !info Xorg
[04:24] <daskreech1> !info xserver-xorg
[04:24] <Serpardum> how can it be optional?  doesn't KDE run on top of Xorg?
[04:24] <Serpardum> I manned it
[04:26] <faileas> Serpardum: you can run ubuntu without x, and there's alternate x servers
[04:27] <daskreech1> Ues
[04:27] <daskreech1> yes
[04:27] <daskreech1> it does
[04:27] <daskreech1> !info coreutils
[04:43] <Serpardum> I have a .bin file I downloaded which is the planeshift game.   I tried opening it and I was asked what program I wanted to open it with.  Hmm. .how do I install this?
[04:44] <mark_> well i must say , earlier i thought i had problems with the new KDE 4.2.3 but now it seems to be working flawlessly
[04:44] <mark_> not sure what happened but now i am a happy camper :)
[04:44] <Serpardum> I forgot the comand to look at the mode of a file
[04:44] <Serpardum> the flags
[04:45] <Serpardum> ls -l did it
[04:45] <Serpardum> it's rw r r, I gotta change it to rwx r x r x I guess
[04:45] <daskreech1> Serpardum: sh filename.bin
[04:46] <Serpardum> syntax eror: "(" unexpected.  wtf
[04:46] <Serpardum> im@ubuntu:~$ sh PlaneShift-v0.4.03-x86.bin
[04:46] <Serpardum> PlaneShift-v0.4.03-x86.bin: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
[04:47] <daskreech1> Serpardum: cute
[04:48] <Serpardum> is it tryign to run it as ascii file?
[04:48] <daskreech1> Serpardum: did you make it executable ?
[04:48] <Serpardum> no
[04:48] <Serpardum> don't remember the command, thought it was mode but mode don't work
[04:48] <bazhang> chmod +x ?
[04:48] <Serpardum> not attrib either, that's widnows
[04:48] <Serpardum> \chmod, yeah
[04:49] <Serpardum> sh didn't work but sudo did
[04:52] <daskreech1> Serpardum: huh? What command did you use?
[04:52] <Serpardum> sh ./PlaneShift-v0.4.03-x86.bin
[04:53] <Serpardum> didn't work but sudo ./PlaneShift-v0.4.03-x86.bin worked
[04:53] <daskreech1> Serpardum: >_<
[04:53] <daskreech1> Try ./Plane*bin with out the sudo
[04:53] <Serpardum> it's already installed
[04:57] <mark_> A Fatal Error Occurred
[04:57] <mark_> The application Plasma Workspace (plasma) crashed and caused the signal 11 (SIGSEGV)
[04:58] <mark_> ?
[04:59] <Serpardum> it closes wshen  click ok :(
[05:01] <mark_> Unable to create a valid backtrace.
[05:01] <mark_> This backtrace appears to be of no use.
[05:01] <mark_> This is probably because your packages are built in a way which prevents creation of proper backtraces, or the stack frame was seriously corrupted in the crash.
[05:02] <mark_> ?
[05:03] <peteh32> list
[05:04] <daskreech1> blast :)
[05:04] <daskreech1> if mark comes back ping me
[05:12] <Serpardum> hmm. yes, planeshift is great.  the farther I get it keeps closing.  then I figure out how to get farther and it closes.
[05:12] <Serpardum> now it's clossing when I log in
[05:13] <daskreech1> it needs to be installed as root then?
[05:23] <Serpardum> I log in and.... *crash*
[05:35] <daskreech1> planeshift is pretty cool
[05:36] <Serpardum> if I could get it to run
[05:40] <daskreech1> Are you running x86 or AMD64 ?
[05:41] <daskreech1> You ran pssetup ?
[05:45] <Serpardum> drek.
[05:45] <Serpardum> 0) : fatal error C9999: *** exception during compilation ***
[05:45] <Serpardum> Cg compiler terminated due to fatal errorjim@ubuntu:~/PlaneShift/PlaneShift$
[05:45] <Serpardum> let me try pssetup
[05:46] <Serpardum> same difference
[05:48] <daskreech1> crashes? does it have an error message/
[05:50] <Serpardum> (0) : fatal error C9999: *** exception during compilation ***
[05:50] <Serpardum> Cg compiler terminated due to fatal error
[05:51] <daskreech1> that's a really high error number
[05:51] <Serpardum> Quote from formus: Most of the people with crash errors on the PlaneShift website are Ubuntu Gutsy Users.
[05:51] <Serpardum> I guess ubuntu and planeshift have a rocky relationship
[05:54] <daskreech1> Yeah
[05:55] <Serpardum> and *crash*
[05:57] <daskreech1> Cg huh?
[05:58] <clover> has anyone run django on kubuntu
[05:58] <clover> ?
[06:00] <daskreech1> just made it to a minute
[06:05] <spawn57`> any news on kde 4.3 beta 1 for kubuntu?
[06:06] <daskreech1> Yes
[06:06] <daskreech1> The headline reads "WAIT FOR IT"
[06:07] <spawn57`> bummer
[06:08] <daskreech1> yeah
[06:28] <davidjheinrich__> can anyone help me figure out why, when I plu in my Cowon D2, my cursor vibrates up and down?
[06:30] <daskreech1> what's a cowon ?
[06:51] <shashu> hi all
[06:52] <shashu> could anyone please tell me what to do when my main storage disk is not automounted on startup?
[06:52] <shashu> I tried to do it on Konsole
[06:52] <shashu> but couldn't get the code right
[06:52] <shashu> I am an amateur
[06:53] <shashu> :)
[06:53] <shashu> please?
[06:54] <Sir_Brizz> you need to add it to /etc/fstab
[06:56] <shashu> how do you do that?
[06:57] <shashu> please tell me!
[06:57] <shiota> algum brasileiro?
[06:58] <shiota> (a)
[06:58] <shashu> Sir_Brizz, how do I add it to fstab?
[07:00] <shashu> please help me!
[07:02] <urli> ola
[07:04] <shiota> ola
[07:04] <shashu> HEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLP!
[07:21] <LaZyFo0L> hi, I am installing kubuntu 9.04 to a laptop, and i cant get the wireless networking to work.
[07:25] <daskreech1> curses
[07:25] <daskreech1> I always miss peopel
[07:25] <daskreech1> !wifi | LaZyFo0L
[07:27] <LaZyFo0L> ty
[07:54] <younis> امخ
[08:24]  * Is is away: Gone away for now
[08:25]  * Gamarok__ is back.
[08:37] <daskreech1> !arabic
[08:42] <faileas> daskreech1: he came in, said one line, then left ;p
[08:47] <eagles0513875> faileas: what is the address to get to the cups web interface
[08:47] <faileas> eagles0513875: no idea
[08:48] <eagles0513875> bah :(
[08:48] <eagles0513875> ok
[08:48] <faileas> try http://localhost:631/admin/
[08:48] <eagles0513875> ya just noticed that on one of the links for cups provided by the bot
[08:49] <eagles0513875> ty faileas that did the trick
[08:49] <faileas> ;)
[08:49]  * faileas googled it
[08:50] <faileas> which is an amazing time saving trick ;p
[08:51] <eagles0513875> lol faileas google.com/linux probably even quicker lol
[09:25] <eagles0513875> O_O im having a super annoying issue with dolphin when xferring data form local machine to remote windows machine it randomly crashes
[09:56] <swatto> Morning all - Does anyone know what the best program is to rip and burn music to CDs (like how windows media player does)
[09:58] <eagles0513875> swatto: to burn i use k3b
[09:58] <eagles0513875> cant think of a cd ripper
[09:58] <eagles0513875> atm
[09:58] <swatto> Does it convert tracks before burning so they can play on normal CD players?
[10:00] <eagles0513875> swatto: there is soundkonverter which converts for you
[10:02] <swatto> thanks eagles, im just trying to install it but when i load synaptic it says starting without administrative privledges so i cant install it
[10:02] <swatto> installing it via the terminal instead
[10:03] <eagles0513875> swatto: :) command line is so much easier then a package manager
[10:03] <eagles0513875> command line is the essence of linux
[10:04] <swatto> Im currently learning alot about it, I have to get into the habit of using it more though as im so used to GUIs
[10:04] <eagles0513875> ya i was as well
[10:04] <eagles0513875> swatto: are you on gnome or kde
[10:04] <swatto> kde 4.2.2
[10:04] <eagles0513875> why are you using synaptic then O_o cuz thats the gnome package manager
[10:05] <swatto> hmm erm
[10:05] <eagles0513875> jaunty uses kpackagekit or if you are on intrepid it uses adept
[10:05] <swatto> I have kpackagekit installed too
[10:06] <swatto> ill uninstall SPM
[10:06] <swatto> whats the command for uninstalling?
[10:09] <swatto> ahh its ok, done it with apt-get remove synaptic
[10:11] <lonelysoul> hi can anyone tell me how to enable HTML rendering
[10:13] <blackflag> !tomcat
[10:13] <lonelysoul> hi can u tell me how to enable HTML rendering
[10:14] <lonelysoul> hi can u tell me how to enable HTML rendering
[10:14] <lonelysoul> anyone plz help
[10:15] <eagles0513875> !info tomcat
[10:15] <eagles0513875> !tomcat
[10:15] <eagles0513875> !html
[10:15] <eagles0513875> humm
[10:15] <lonelysoul> plz tell me how to enable it in ubuntu wine
[10:16] <eagles0513875> lonelysoul: i dont think you need wine for tomcat
[10:16] <p-f> Is there an interactive alternative to grep so that I can change my grepping criteria online?
[10:29] <naught101> what package provides the power management in kubuntu by default?
[10:31] <slow-motion> hi
[10:33] <eagles0513875> !hi | slow-motion
[10:34] <slow-motion> hi eagles0513875
[10:35] <RurouniJones> Is there any way to get Thunderbird to stop moaning about self-signed certs and just accept them permanently?
[10:38] <naught101> !power
[10:38] <naught101> !power management
[10:38] <eagles0513875> !acpi
[10:38] <naught101> !powerdevil
[10:38] <eagles0513875> naught101: plz stop
[10:38] <eagles0513875> !patience | naught101
[10:39] <eagles0513875> !hal
[10:39] <eagles0513875> naught101: let me check something really quick
[10:40] <eagles0513875> naught101: are you on a laptop
[10:40] <jordi_> hi everyone
[10:41] <naught101> eagles0513875: yeah. I guess I'm talking about the front end more. my power management seems completely screwed, and I want to remove all preferences and re-install all related packages
[10:41] <eagles0513875> !hal-power
[10:41] <eagles0513875> !info hal-power
[10:41] <jordi_> i'm using kaffeine 0.8.6 and kaffeine-sc-plugin 0.4.0-1. The thing is that from time to time audio and video freeze. almost instantly audio "resumes" but video doesn't, no matter how long i wait for. is this normal behaviour? is there any option i can set in kaffeine to make video to work without stoping and starting kaffeine again? thanks.
[10:41] <eagles0513875> naught101: im not sure but it seems like the backend is hal-power
[10:42] <eagles0513875> naught101: have you tried using the power widget
[10:42] <naught101> eagles0513875: yeah, I am using it - and I think it's screwed. I don't know what package provides it though
[10:42] <eagles0513875> naught101: give me a sec
[10:43] <naught101> hal-power doesn't exist in the repos...
[10:44] <eagles0513875> naught101: :( wasnt able to find it
[10:44] <gazra> I just installed kubuntu jaunty and have no sound on firefox flash, can someone tell me how to make it work?
[10:45] <naught101> eagles0513875: find what?
[10:45] <eagles0513875> the name of the package so you can purge it and then reinstall it naught101
[10:47] <naught101> ok. the only packages on my system with the word "power" in their names are powermgmt-base and powernowd
[10:48] <eagles0513875> naught101: not sure what those are :( if you can bare with the room someone will come along who will be able to help you a lil bit more then i can. dont wanna screw up your install :(
[10:50] <naught101> I'll come back in a bit
[10:54] <sky_1> anyone know if is fixed network manager in latest release ?
[10:54] <eagles0513875> sky_1: you need to be more specific. what is fixed
[10:56] <ekundo> not entirely sure where's best to ask this, here or the winehq channel, but i'll give it a shot
[10:56] <ekundo> says to me that somethign else is running and hogging the mic,despite my best efforts to nuke anything that looks like it would be using it. It's bugging me now since I can listen but not speak.
[10:56] <ekundo> anyone got any idea why when I load ventrilo and log into a server it says "Failed to open input device. Another program might have it open already. rc = -10"
[10:56] <ekundo> whoops, wrong way around
[10:56] <sky_1> when i set values to network manager he dont load it and i cant connect to internet
[10:59] <eagles0513875> ekundo: #winehq channel is probably more help and i have tried vent in linux with wine and have had same issue as you are mentioning
[11:00] <ekundo> okey dokeys, cheers, was just wondering whether it's a wine problem or a something-hogging-the-microphone problem
[11:01] <chris__> Hello, i was wondering if anyone could help me, i'm having a resolution problem on Kubuntu.
[11:03] <gazra> I just installed kubuntu jaunty and have no sound on firefox flash, can someone tell me how to make it work?
[11:04] <sky_1> 64 bit ?
[11:05] <eagles0513875> sky_1: i dont understand what your question is
[11:05] <eagles0513875> chris_: what video card you got
[11:06] <sky_1> eagles0513875: how i can use kde network manager from KDE 3.5 under KDE4.X.X ?
[11:06] <chris__> Its an integrated 8100 (nVidia 720a chipset)
[11:06] <eagles0513875> sky_1: just install it sudo apt-get install knetworkmanager its stil in the repos
[11:06] <eagles0513875> chris_: do you have the driver for the card installed
[11:07] <sky_1> eagles0513875: i cant connect to internet  (now i am on other distro)
[11:07] <chris__> I'm not sure, when i look for the drivers for the chipset, its supposed to be included with Ubuntu/variants according to the docs i found on nVidia's site.
[11:07] <eagles0513875> sky_1: with the new widget there is a work around to get on the internet
[11:08] <sky_1> what ?
[11:08] <eagles0513875> chris_: forget nvidia website open hardware devices that will load any restricted drivers for your various hardware install what you need
[11:09] <chris__> Alright, duh shoulda checked that (i've used ubuntu before with nVidia hardware)
[11:09] <eagles0513875> sky_1: im on a clean install of jaunty and the default network manager widget doesnt want to work for me with dhcp or static for some reason. i am bypassing it all together by having my eth0 device use a static ip by adding the appropriate lines to the /etc/network/interfaces file
[11:09] <eagles0513875> chris_: that is a god send prior to having it used to be hell having to remember the names of packages for certain hardware. it should also depending on your wifi card have the necessary drivers for it
[11:09] <chris__> not activated haha lets try that.
[11:09] <eagles0513875> a reboot will be required
[11:10] <chris__> wifi works great in kubuntu compared to most other distros (slackware)
[11:11] <eagles0513875> chris_: what wifi card do you have
[11:12] <chris__> sorry about that, didn't know what that icon was in the tray (now i feel stupid) i can install the gnome desktop side by side with KDE right? or does it cause problems?
[11:12] <eagles0513875> ya you can
[11:12] <eagles0513875> not sure if it causes problems i dont normally do it
[11:13] <chris__> Ah, well if it does you'll know about it, anyways thanks for the help, i feel stupid for not checking that before, i'm not a complete linux noob i promise, most of my stuff is terminal stuff so the GUI is a bit new to me.
[11:13] <yaa_> anybody tell me a ouple of free public dns servers
[11:14] <yaa_> *couple
[11:14] <eagles0513875> chris_: we all have our days
[11:14] <eagles0513875> !opendns | yaa_
[11:14] <yaa_> my provider`s dont work
[11:14] <eagles0513875> yaa_: opendns
[11:14] <yaa_> nonono i mean
[11:14] <gazra> I just installed kubuntu jaunty and have no sound on firefox flash, can someone tell me how to make it work? I have searched and found nothing, come on guys, please help me!!
[11:14] <yaa_> which to put in resolv.conf
[11:15] <yaa_> the ones of my provider do not work properly
[11:15] <chris__> opendns: 208.67.222.222,208.67.220.220
[11:15] <yaa_> thank u)
[11:16] <eagles0513875> chris_: you mind hopping into #kubuntu-offtopic
[11:16] <eagles0513875> wanna discuss opendns and other dns options with ya since this isnt the appropriate channel for it
[11:16] <chris__> Not a problem
[11:33] <enzi> how do i check the free space of my hdd?
[11:38] <faileas> enzi: df would do it i think
[11:38] <enzi> thx
[11:39] <giulio> salve a tutti
[11:40] <eagles0513875> !it | giulio
[11:55] <chris___> eagles0513875: you there?
[12:02] <koko> ji
[12:16] <duke__> kubuntu 7.04. try to do "sudo do-release-upgrade" but got "Failed upgrade tool signature". How fix?
[12:33] <WaY> hello
[12:33] <WaY> when are going to be ready kde 4.3 packages?
[12:35] <vital> Way, it will be released around 28th of july, so no earlier than that I'd say..
[12:36] <WaY> but for trying the release candidate vital ?
[12:37] <vital> way, no idea :/ I'm building kde4 from trunk myself, I dont know if the project neon repository is up to date.. search google for    kde 4 project neon and you should probably find that repository **it will be compiled from trunk, so at your own risk :) **
[12:38] <WaY> ok, thanks vital
[12:38] <WaY> so project neon is called, excelente...
[12:39] <vital> way, perhaps they've changed name since I last saw it :)
[12:39] <vital> owh, misunderstood :P
[12:41] <WaY> you are under 4.3 then, aren't you?
[12:42] <kaddi> hi, I used to be able to switch the encoding in konversation using "/charset utf8", but now it only tells me that "utf8 is not a valid encoding". Has the command changed or is this possibly a bug? (or a feature that hasn't been added back in after  the upgrade?)
[12:42] <blackflag> Hello all :) I installed tomcat 6 on ubuntu 9.04 but dont having access to the webapp page. I create a user as suggested but can not login. Can someone help?
[12:46] <gazra> Hi, could somone please help me, I just installed kubuntu Jaunty and I can't get any sound on flash on firefox. I have tried everything that I found in google
[12:48] <kaddi> gazra: I know of a "flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound" package, that might be necessary if you use Adobe Flash... That might help, it's all I know though
[12:51] <sourcemaker> I have a system freeze starting KDM with 2.6.28-11 kernel
[12:52] <sourcemaker> 2.6.27-14-generic is booting well
[12:55] <Eismann> sourcemaker: what graphic card do you have?
[12:56] <sourcemaker> Eismann: it's a nvidia
[12:56] <Eismann> are you using nvidia drivers?
[12:56] <sourcemaker> Eismann: yes
[12:57] <Eismann> try with nv driver
[12:57] <sourcemaker> Eismann: the error occurs while starting the X11 session... the logon screen appears.. and then is hangs
[12:57] <Eismann> oops
[12:57] <sourcemaker> Eismann: well, nv does not have opengl functions?
[12:57] <Eismann> so it is starting the X
[12:58] <sourcemaker> Eismann: yes..
[12:58] <Eismann> I thought it could be a problem with the driveres, but if its starting...
[12:58] <Eismann> dunno
[13:00] <sourcemaker> I have installed the nvidia-glx-180 driver
[13:03] <gazra> kaddi: I tried that, but it still doesn't work!
[13:03] <gazra> kaddi: I get sound everywhere but in flash
[13:04] <xeon> have any 1 tried kde 4.3
[13:04] <xeon> ?
[13:04] <xeon> itstill beta
[13:05] <gcappiello> salve
[13:05] <montacarichi> list torrent
[13:19] <|dexter|> hello, i have just installed kubuntu 9.04 but i can't enable the  fglrx proprietary driver for my ati card. I press Enable but it doesn't :( any help ?
[13:22] <|dexter|> hello?
[13:23] <denis> hi there,
[13:23] <russel> :)
[13:23] <eagles0513875> |dexter|: ones you install it you have to reboot for it to take effect if you have already installed it
[13:23] <denis> i have a question, using jaunty at the moment
[13:24] <denis> or am i in the wrong room?
[13:24] <|dexter|> the button "activate" doesn't work and the led is alwais off
[13:24] <denis> ok, will ask it anyway:
[13:25] <eagles0513875> denis: right room just ask
[13:25] <eagles0513875> |dexter|: take not of the package and you can install it via command line
[13:25] <denis> is there a way, or a program to record both your mic sound + anything your computer plays, like amarok and internet
[13:25] <eagles0513875> |dexter|: which fglrx driver are you trying to enable
[13:25] <eagles0513875> denis: not that i know of
[13:26] <eagles0513875> but to record voice you can use audacity
[13:26] <denis> thx :)
[13:26] <|dexter|> i don't know which one it is for my ati hd 2600 pro pci-e
[13:26] <eagles0513875> denis: not a problem
[13:26] <denis> yeah record your voice is no problem
[13:26] <eagles0513875> |dexter|: are you looking at the hardware drivers manager
[13:26] <Guest94944> moin, i still can not upgrade from 8.04 to 9. or do i have to upgrade first to 8.10 and then furhter?
[13:27] <|dexter|> yep and it says there are flgrx drvier available and a button in the lower right corner to activate the driver, but nothing happen. I came from Ubuntu and there it works.
[13:27] <eagles0513875> Guest94944: 8.04---->8.10----->9.04
[13:27] <eagles0513875> |dexter|: whats is the name of the driver it is showing
[13:27] <Guest94944> so, ok
[13:27] <Guest94944> and how can i upgrade. its is not working in the shell
[13:27] <denis> am looking for something like Istanbul but only with sound, recording everything that comes from the computer including mic
[13:28] <eagles0513875> !upgrade
[13:28] <eagles0513875> Guest94944: i stand corrected you can go form 8.04 to 9.04
[13:28] <Guest94944> yes
[13:28] <eagles0513875> denis: im not sure
[13:28] <|dexter|> the name is fglrx
[13:28] <eagles0513875> Guest94944: it used to be you couldnt do that
[13:28] <eagles0513875> |dexter|: the package i found while searching is xorg-driver-fglrx
[13:28] <Guest94944> i did it 2 days ago, looked ok, then i could not start ubuntu anymore.. have to setup everything new
[13:29] <denis> maybe it conflicts with rights, like you can record skype than as well
[13:29] <eagles0513875> Guest94944: be advised that there are some new features that are no longer used in 9.04
[13:29] <Spectrum> denis: I looked for something a while ago to do that and couldn't find anything. I thought Phonon was supposed to support it, but...
[13:29] <eagles0513875> denis: maybe
[13:29] <|dexter|> so i have to manual install it ?
[13:29] <eagles0513875> |dexter|: command line install with sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[13:29] <denis> phonon?
[13:30] <eagles0513875> !info phonon | denis
[13:30] <Guest94944> possible. but i am 1. scared that i have to install ubuntu new, and 2. the update is not working. i can install everyathng else, but not an upgrade
[13:30] <Spectrum> Phonon is the multimedia API for KDE 4.
[13:30] <|dexter|> ok thanx eagles0513875 i'll tell you if it works :) Thanx again
[13:30] <eagles0513875> Guest94944: normally if i avoid upgrading if i can cuz i have nothing but issues
[13:30] <eagles0513875> |dexter|: no prob
[13:31] <eagles0513875> Guest94944: if you already tried an upgrade with issues is there a chance you can burn a cd with jaunty and do a clean install if you already tried an upgrade
[13:31] <denis> eagles: it's not in the applications list
[13:31] <Guest94944> yeah, maybe.
[13:31] <eagles0513875> denis: phonon is installed by default out of the box
[13:31] <Guest94944> strange
[13:34] <Spectrum> Anyone else experience refresh problems with Compiz+NVIDIA?
[13:34] <eagles0513875> Spectrum: i was getting kwin and plasma crashes with desktop effects enabled
[13:34] <eagles0513875> my rig is an nvidia chipset and graphics card
[13:35] <eagles0513875> Spectrum: ill brb need to run an fsck just to see if that will fix some of my issues
[13:36] <Spectrum> eagles0513875: KWin effects and Plasma work fine for me with Nvidia drivers. But windows don't refresh properly when I use Compiz instead.
[13:39] <denis>  just crazy, it should be a real ubuntu application to record any sound your computer produces
[13:41] <Guest94944> aaah
[13:41] <denis>  just want to use it like i used my old midi stereo system with tape and cd
[13:42] <desafinado> hello, i want to install pulseaudio and i found the tutorial here https://wiki.kubuntu.org/PulseAudio. can i use this tutorial for kubuntu jaunty? 'cause the tutorial example is for kubuntu 7. 10.
[13:43] <Guest94944> etc/hosts is the problem
[13:43] <denis> ok, another question then, if i use "sudo shutdown -h" it will remind me every 1 minute the computer is shutting down in ... time. How can i disable this please?
[13:44] <denis> with the anoying system beeb
[13:45] <Spectrum> denis: Are you trying to shut it down immediately?
[13:47] <denis> no no, i set a timer using "sudo shutdown -h"
[13:48] <denis> and put in the time to shut down, but it reminds me every 1 minute with the system beeb, although it is unabled in sound preferences
[13:49] <denis> for example: sudo shutdown -h 14:50
[13:49] <Spectrum> denis: I don't think so, but you could achieve the same thing using something like "sleep 120 && halt"
[13:49] <Spectrum> Or a cron task.
[13:49] <denis> will try
[13:50] <sourcemaker> how can I install kde 4.3.0 BETA?
[13:52] <Dragnslcr> sourcemaker- very carefully
[13:53] <eagles0513875> hey guys im having an issue accessing a windows shared folder on a windows machine on my linux box it seems to keep timing out. it was working earlier and now has stopped.
[13:53] <eagles0513875> chris_: hey im back in offtopic
[13:56] <Guest94944> nope, its not updating.. it says, no new package. this looks like that the ipś, or links for download are not correct.. anybody knew something about it?
[13:56] <Guest94944> not upgrading i mean
[13:57] <Spectrum> eagles0513875: Firewall running?
[13:57] <Guest94944> me?
[13:57] <Guest94944> nope
[13:57] <eagles0513875> Spectrum: no it was working earlier and now has stopped cold turkey
[13:58] <Guest94944> i had an firewall burt after the new setup i didnt install it yet.. also tripwire not.. to scary
[13:58] <eagles0513875> Guest94944: let me see that link i linked ya befor ehold up
[13:58] <eagles0513875> !upgrade
[13:59] <Guest94944> i wrote this already..
[13:59] <eagles0513875> Guest94944: firstly have you updated all packages that need updating
[13:59] <Guest94944> read this,
[13:59] <Guest94944> done
[13:59] <Guest94944> this is working
[13:59] <Spectrum> eagles0513875: Try "smbclient -L <host> -U <username>" What do you see?
[13:59] <Guest94944> update and installing is ok
[14:00] <eagles0513875> Spectrum: i dont have a shared folder setup
[14:00] <eagles0513875> im accessing a share on windows laptop
[14:00] <Guest94944> which host?
[14:01] <Spectrum> eagles0513875: You're trying to access Windows share from Linux, right? smbclient is a Linux tool for accessing Windows shares.
[14:01] <eagles0513875> !info smbclient
[14:02] <Guest94944> is smbclient also running with direct x?
[14:02] <eagles0513875> Guest94944: i just setup the share and was able to access it
[14:03] <MakkaPakka> I'm running kubuntu from a USB stick, how can I change the boot so it doesn't ask me if I want to install? The whole point of putting it on the stick was to run it from there on any machine I need to
[14:03] <ForgeAus> is there a kde3-remix repository?
[14:03] <Spectrum> eagles0513875: smbclient should give you some indication of what the problem is. Just run the command I sent you.
[14:04] <eagles0513875> said protocol negotiation failed
[14:04] <Spectrum> So it does see the server. Hmm...
[14:05] <eagles0513875> samba is being hosted on this desktop
[14:06] <Spectrum> And you didn't make any config changes to the desktop since it stopped working?
[14:06] <eagles0513875> this is a share on my tablet
[14:06] <eagles0513875> i configured the folder and permissions for the user
[14:07] <Spectrum> I'm confused. You're trying to access Samba on a desktop but the share is on a tablet?
[14:07] <eagles0513875> no
[14:07] <eagles0513875> i have a shared folder on my tablet running win 7
[14:07] <eagles0513875> now on here kubuntu
[14:08] <eagles0513875> im using the add network feature to add a windows network drive which it doesnt seem to access cuz it keeps timing out
[14:08] <Spectrum> Sorry, I'm at a loss for what to do about a protocol negociation failure, particularly since it was working before.
[14:08] <eagles0513875> there is one thing im gonna try
[14:09] <eagles0513875> Spectrum: i can ping the machine
[14:09] <bishop> if you press alt f2 and type smb:/ does it show the computer on the network?
[14:09] <MakkaPakka> How do I change the default logged-in user?
[14:10] <eagles0513875> yes
[14:10] <eagles0513875> bishop: it does but it times out somewhere along the line
[14:10] <dwidmann> MakkaPakka: hit alt+f2 and run "kdesudo systemsettings", go to advanced - > login manager
[14:11] <eagles0513875> i can find the machine but it keeps timing out for me
[14:11] <bishop> so if you click on the computer it times out?
[14:11] <eagles0513875> yes
[14:11] <eagles0513875> this actually started happening after activating win 7
[14:12] <dwidmann> MakkaPakka: you can set it in the convenience tab, towards the top-left there is a drop-down for what user gets auto-logged in
[14:12] <bishop> hmm but you can still ping the comp?
[14:12] <eagles0513875> yes
[14:12] <eagles0513875> already  tried that
[14:13] <eagles0513875> this gets better its not finding my usb external hdd
[14:13] <bishop> did you try manually mounting the usb hdd?
[14:13] <eagles0513875> its kinda acting screwey
[14:13] <eagles0513875> so it might be the drive
[14:14] <bishop> add interface = eth0 to your smb config file
[14:14] <eagles0513875> O_O whats that do
[14:14] <bishop> makes sure samba is trying to use you network card
[14:15] <eagles0513875> it was before why all of a sudden it wouldnt be
[14:15] <bishop> did you upgrade anything?
[14:15] <eagles0513875> just some java stuff
[14:16] <bishop> what are you useing to try and brows the samba shares?
[14:17] <eagles0513875> dolphin but that is constantly crashing
[14:17] <eagles0513875> then i also tried konqueror
[14:18] <bishop> type smbtree in commandline and see what happens
[14:18] <eagles0513875> system seems bogged down with something
[14:19] <bishop> ksysguard<< will show everything running on your comp
[14:20] <ghouly> hi all, i recently upgraded from hardy to jaunty, and now i can't access my digicam when i connect it via usb,  dmesg says " new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3, configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice"    but nothing happens afterwards, i used to get a filebrowser in hardy, any ideas on how this can be fixed ?
[14:21] <bishop> tryed mounting it manually?
[14:22] <ghouly> i don't know how
[14:22] <eagles0513875> bishop: sry bout that damn whole system locked up on me
[14:22] <eagles0513875> and now it sees my usb drive O_O
[14:22] <bishop> ls /dev/usb/*
[14:23] <eagles0513875> no need
[14:23] <bishop> nice :-)
[14:23] <eagles0513875> its showing up on the widget
[14:23] <bishop> that was for ghouly
[14:23] <eagles0513875> ahhh
[14:23] <eagles0513875> my bad
[14:23] <eagles0513875> well smbtree btw failes to negotiate the protocol
[14:23] <MakkaPakka> dwidmann: perfect. Thanks
[14:23] <eagles0513875> dwidmann: what kinda chipset are you n
[14:23] <eagles0513875> on
[14:24] <eagles0513875> bishop: thanks for your help ill deal with it some other time gonna get my stuff onto my usb drive
[14:24] <swatto> hello all - using the wubi install method of linux completely screwed up my windows installation so I have uninstall windows altogether and put linux back on - how can I check that it is using my full Hard-Drive capacity
[14:24] <ghouly> bishop, hmm, i don't seem to have /dev/usb/  but there are tons of   /dev/usbdev1.1_ep00%  and  /dev/usbmon0%   and similar
[14:24] <bishop> so smb is not working then so the problem lies with smb itself i would try adding interface = eth0 to your smb.conf
[14:25] <eagles0513875> i dont have time right now :(
[14:25] <bishop> gouly mind pasteing the entire output for me?
[14:25] <eagles0513875> kinda studying for an exam on tuesday and trying to get some things out of the ppa
[14:25] <eagles0513875> !paste | ghouly
[14:25] <bishop> ok hf eagles hope u get it working
[14:26] <eagles0513875> bishop: :) thanks im having lots of issues with jaunty lots of random crashes
[14:26] <eagles0513875> like desktop effects causing kwin and plasma to crash but now i have disabled it
[14:27] <bishop> and people wounder why i never went to kde 4 :_)
[14:27] <eagles0513875> then again bishop im on 4.2.3
[14:27] <ghouly> http://paste.ubuntu.com/174305/   =)
[14:27] <bishop> im still on 3.5
[14:28] <eagles0513875> bleh
[14:28] <eagles0513875> i think im gonna have to try  and get samba working
[14:28] <eagles0513875> external drive is full :(
[14:28] <ghouly> hmm, is it painful to  downgrade to kde3.5 in jaunty ?
[14:29] <bishop> umm yes :-) tends to break things and then u cant upgrade things without it wanting to upgrade kde
[14:31] <slow-motion> bye
[14:31] <ghouly> meh, that driver shit really keeps the mainstream people away from linux. but i suppose there is no good solution =(
[14:31] <eagles0513875> !ohmy | ghouly
[14:32] <ghouly> kk, sry =)
[14:32] <bishop> gouly sudo fdisk -l
[14:32] <Eismann> ghouly: I thing you can install KDe 3.5 in jauty
[14:33] <bishop> does it list your device there?
[14:34] <Eismann> ghouly: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Kde3/Jaunty
[14:34] <Eismann> but its not a downgrade
[14:34] <ghouly> ah , i just installed "digikam" and it found the cam and i can access my stuff =D
[14:34] <bishop> lol ok then :-)
[14:34] <ghouly> just the automount dialog in kde itself seems to be broken or deactivated or something
[14:35] <swatto> Im looking at Gparted and it lists my partitions as /dev/sda1 , /dev/sda2 and /dev/sda5 (linux swap) the sda2 (extended) and sda5 are 11GB each - is this correct?
[14:35] <ghouly> but thanks anyway =)
[14:35] <bishop> umm if gparted says it is yes :-)
[14:35] <swatto> also my HD is 750gb and it only lists it has 698GB in gparted
[14:35] <bishop> some of the space is used for mbr and things like that :-)
[14:36] <bishop> so you will never see all 750 gb
[14:36] <swatto> is it normal to have 11GB for an extended partition and linux swap file though?
[14:36] <Eismann> nop
[14:36] <eagles0513875> swatto: normally swap is double the amount of your ram
[14:36] <Eismann> I thing 11GB swap is too much
[14:36] <Eismann> think*
[14:36] <swatto> well I have 4GB of ram so that aint right
[14:37] <bishop> i usually set swap to 5-8 gb
[14:37] <Guest94944> 3100 is enoug
[14:37] <Guest94944> h
[14:37] <eagles0513875> Eismann: i have 16 cuz i have 8gb of ram in this rig
[14:37] <ghouly> Eismann, thanks, i'll give it a try if i run into problems with kde4, nice to have an alternative =)
[14:37] <Guest94944> MB
[14:37] <swatto> Its just im a bit worried cause I let the ubuntu setup format my drive and get rid of the windows installation
[14:37] <ghouly> k, bye all, have a nice day =)
[14:38] <Eismann> bye
[14:38] <Guest94944> cau
[14:38] <swatto> but im concerned that it hasnt joined the partitions back together from when I used linux via wubi in windows
[14:38] <bishop> does it tell you the mount points of the partitions
[14:38] <bishop> ?
[14:39] <swatto> well the mount point of ext3 is the root /
[14:39] <swatto> but the other two it doesnt list a mount point
[14:39] <bishop> have you only just installed ubuntu?
[14:39] <Eismann> yep, but which partition?
[14:39] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[14:39] <bishop> hello :-)
[14:40] <swatto> yes well basically I had windows installed and I installed ubuntu via wubi installer in windows.  But I went back to windows and it screwed up some of my apps so i decided to get rid of windows altogether so I just put the ubuntu install disk in and let that format my drive
[14:40] <swatto> but now i dont know if it still sees my drive as two seperate partitions or if it is just the entire drive that is being used now for linux
[14:41] <bishop> well if you would like to keep all your files in the same place (save haveing 3-4 dif partitions ) i would reinstall it and have only root / and about 3-4 gb of swap
[14:41] <swatto> so I dont need extended then?
[14:41] <swatto> well I told the installation to use the entire drive
[14:41] <bishop> and it did
[14:41] <bishop> but it segrigated bits of it off
[14:42] <Guest94944> ok, upgrade is not working, i have no idea why. something else. i am using under win a tool which allows me to be connected to my linux, it is also in the win directory. now i want to do this in another way, using win under linux, BUT the Vmware-seerver is not working with direct x.. any ideas?
[14:42] <swatto> ahh the linux-swap  is sda2
[14:42] <bishop> like /boot /home / are usually seperate unless you tell it to only do it in 1 partition
[14:42] <bishop> for an easier to understand partition editor try qtparted
[14:42] <swatto> I have just looked and the extended partition (sda2) is used for the linux-swap (sda5)
[14:43] <bishop> geust94944 if your planning on playing games under a virtual machine your waisting your time it will never be fast enough
[14:43] <bishop> try wine instead
[14:43] <bishop> swatto you can safely ignore that
[14:44] <swatto> so do you think it is setup right then?
[14:44] <bishop> sounds like it is to me :-)
[14:44] <swatto> from what I have said - would like to do a screenshot to show you :(
[14:44] <bishop> ok
[14:45] <Eismann> I think sda1 is for root and sda5 for swap, where's the problem?
[14:45] <swatto> hmm how can i do a screenshot
[14:45] <bishop> press print screen key
[14:45] <bishop> save the screenshot
[14:46] <bishop> and upload it to imageshack.us
[14:46] <swatto> ok two secs
[14:49] <swatto> http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/1001/snapshot1w.png
[14:50] <swatto> There it is :)
[14:51] <bishop> everything there is fine :-) you have 2 partitions your root partition and swap
[14:52] <swatto> excellent :) so that means winblows is completely gone
[14:52] <bishop> yes it does :-)
[14:52] <swatto> wooo
[14:54] <Woosta> I have kubuntu 9.04 installed on a USB stick, but when I restart, I lose everything. It also appears that while the drive is 16GB, / only has 525MB free and all the space is on /cdrom
[14:54] <Woosta> How can I (a) not lose everything and (b) get my space back to where I want to use it (/)
[14:55] <Woosta> (I'm sure it's in an FAQ somewhere, but the google hasn't found it for me yet)
[14:55] <Eismann> i guess its readonly, thats because you lose your data
[14:55] <Eismann> how did you create the usb?
[14:55] <Woosta> Using some usb-somethingorother .. a utility for putting the live-cd ISO onto a usb stick
[14:56] <Woosta> usb-creator
[14:56] <Eismann> a live-cd is that.. a LIVE CD
[14:56] <bishop> burn the iso to disk then install it to the usb device
[14:57] <Eismann> I thing there are utilities to create usb disk where you can store data
[14:57] <Woosta> Err .. why? How does that change anything?
[14:57] <Woosta> Eismann: what keywords am I missing on the google?
[14:57] <Eismann> a live CD is readonly
[14:57] <bishop> well running as a live disk it is not designed to save data
[14:57] <bishop> if you actually install it its nolonger read only
[14:58] <Woosta> Hmm .. ok
[14:58] <Eismann> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[14:58]  * Woosta looks
[14:59] <Woosta> Eismann++ // perfect
[15:02] <eagles0513875> Woosta: good luck i tried with another one other then that a while back and i couldnt get it to work
[15:02] <swatto> Is there an easy way to make sure my software is up to date?
[15:02] <Mamarok> swatto: if you run a daily update it likely is
[15:02] <swatto> how do I make sure an update is run?
[15:03] <alvaro> dfasd
[15:03] <bishop> apt-get update
[15:03] <bishop> apt-get upgrade
[15:03] <bishop> ^^
[15:04] <Mamarok> swatto: you do run updates yourself, but you are normally notified in the system tray if there are updates available
[15:04] <Mamarok> bishop: I can handle it, thx
[15:05] <swatto> does the update check for software updates too? like the latest version of GIMP for example
[15:05] <Mamarok> swatto: yes, it does, at least the latest available package for your dsitribution, according to the repositories you have in your surces list
[15:05] <Mamarok> sources list even
[15:06] <swatto> ahh ok, thanks :) so GIMP 2.6 is the latest
[15:08] <swatto> last question, does anyone use/know of a good python ide for linux
[15:09] <Mamarok> swatto: this depends on your preferences, most are available for Linux anyway
[15:10] <Mamarok> swatto: idle is often used, but a lot of people just use Kate with the python plugins
[15:11] <swatto> hmm think i need to install both kate and the python plugins then
[15:12] <Mamarok> swatto: kate is normally default AFAIK
[15:13] <swatto> ahh yes i see it, need to know the plugins to get now
[15:17] <dupondje> hellow, I just installed Kubuntu :) I really like the taskbar and such, but I don't like the colors/layout of the windows, is there a way to change those ?
[15:18] <Woosta> K > System Settings > APpearance
[15:22] <Guest38880> problem: i have a pckage on desktop, i386.tar.gz but i can not install it.. says, package not found..
[15:24] <bishop> .tar.gz is most likely to be the soucecode (still tared) it will need to be compiled or you can alternitavely try to find a binary package of the app
[15:25] <xerox1> has anyone else problems with random freezes?
[15:25] <bishop> in debian stable 5.0 yes in kubuntu no
[15:25] <picasso_> not me
[15:26] <Mamarok> not me neither
[15:27] <Guest38880> but it is on my desktop and i have it unpacked
[15:28] <BluesKaj> xerox1, only before I decided to do a clean install , previously my internet upgrade from Intrepid would freeze and would needctrl+alt +escape to kill the culprit app
[15:28] <bishop> time 4 me to sleep night all
[15:29] <xerox1> BluesKaj, i seem to have random freezes that block the whole system; only pushing the power button enables me to use the machine again
[15:31] <BluesKaj> xerox1, if possible save your data to a another drive and do a clean install , that sounds like a broken install ..you may not be able to boot into kubuntu if this keeps up
[15:33] <xerox1> BluesKaj, i am here with kubuntu...using it since the last beta on this system
[15:33] <xerox1> problems started about 2 weeks ago; third freezes in this period
[15:34] <BluesKaj> any upgrades installed today?
[15:35] <wtl> what's the process name of the system settings/
[15:35] <xerox1> BluesKaj, no upgrades installed today
[15:38] <Mamarok> wtl: systemsettings
[15:38] <wtl> Mamarok, hmm. how about if i'm running it using the terminal?
[15:39] <Mamarok> wtl: same as starting from the menu
[15:39] <wtl> the thing is, i'm on gnome. i want to change the icon theme. i dont know if system settings is installed
[15:39] <Mamarok> oh, right
[15:40] <BluesKaj> or alt+f2
[15:40] <Mamarok> wtl: then install the package systemsettings
[15:40] <danita> how to get information of the currently song in Rhythmbox 0.12.0 for skype
[15:40] <swatto> how do I do a complete uninstall from the terminal (removing all config files etc)
[15:41] <Mamarok> danita: no iea, Rythmbox is a Gnome app :)
[15:41] <Mamarok> idea*
[15:41] <Mamarok> swatto: "unistall from the terminal"
[15:41] <Mamarok> you mean removing all config files?
[15:42] <Mamarok> swatto: move .kde/ from your home to .kde_old/ for example, then restart KDE
[15:42] <devils> search config files or foldres and try rm -rf /folder
[15:42] <wtl> Mamarok, thanks man
[15:42] <swatto> you know like you can do just an uninstall in the package manager but you can also select full uninstall which removes config files too - how can you do the same in terminal
[15:42] <dupondje> got 1920x1200, and everything looks SO big in KDE, really to big fonts used :(
[15:42] <Mamarok> devils: arghs!
[15:42] <Mamarok> devils: no such commands!
[15:43] <devils> yeah yeah :)
[15:43] <Mamarok> swatto: oh, you mean purge :)
[15:43] <swatto> yea i think so? does that do a full uninstall of an app from the terminal
[15:43] <Mamarok> devils: I am serious!
[15:43] <Mamarok> swatto: yes it does
[15:43] <swatto> how do i use it?
[15:44] <Mamarok> swatto: sudo apt-get purge packagename does the trick
[15:44] <ign0ramus> swatto, 'sudo apt-get purge <package>'
[15:44] <swatto> cheers
[15:44] <marcox25> any one know where it'ss kde 4.3 beta1 for kubuntu 9.04?
[15:44] <ign0ramus> marcox25, did you check the kde web site?
[15:44] <marcox25> ye
[15:44] <marcox25> yep
[15:45] <devils> mamarok rm exist! and -rf is for folders remove
[15:45] <ign0ramus> marcox25, so then you saw the announcement, right? http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3-beta1.php
[15:45] <Mamarok> devils: just don't give this command, please, moving is saner in the first place
[15:45] <devils> right :P
[15:46] <marcox25> yes, but theres is nothing abaout kde 4.3 beta 1 for kubuntu
[15:46] <Mamarok> marcox25: read the topic please
[15:47] <Mamarok> marcox25: and be patient :)
[15:47] <devils> Mamarok:  give me some idea
[15:48] <devils> Mamarok:  how to uninstall / remove seamonkey
[15:48] <ign0ramus> marcox25, there are no "Kubuntu" repos or packages yet, but you there are sources to build from... although I wouldn't recommend it unless you're a developer or are simply testing
[15:48] <Mamarok> !seamonkey
[15:48] <ign0ramus> marcox25, http://download.kde.org/download.php?url=unstable/4.2.85/src/
[15:48] <marcox25> i want .debs
[15:49] <Mamarok> marcox25: then be patient, the devs are working on it
[15:49] <ign0ramus> marcox25, did you read the topics?
[15:49] <marcox25> yes
[15:49] <Mamarok> marcox25: it will be announce on kubuntu.org anyway
[15:49] <marcox25> ok thanks
[15:49] <marcox25> aprox ,, it will bea ready in a week?
[15:50] <ign0ramus> marcox25, i have no idea... talk to a kde/kubuntu dev.
[15:50] <swatto> Is there a way I can do a snapshot of my current kubuntu setup so i can restore later incase something goes wrong
[15:50] <devils> Mamarok: apt-get remove work but the seamonkey exist :S
[15:51] <Mamarok> devils: apt-get purge
[15:51] <ign0ramus> swatto, you can always put "~" on a separate partition...
[15:51] <Mamarok> devils: how did you install it in the first place?
[15:51] <devils> :s not work :S exist again
[15:52] <swatto> what does that do ign0ramus?
[15:52] <devils> with apt-get insta..
[15:52] <devils> with apt-get install seamonkey..
[15:52] <Mamarok> devils: sudo apt-get purge seamoney then
[15:52] <devils> Package seamonkey is not installed, so not removed
[15:52] <devils> but exist again :X
[15:53] <ign0ramus> swatto, in your case you can make a partition that mirrors your home folder, with all your content and config files that you can copy back over if things get borked
[15:53] <devils> hmm :S
[15:53] <ign0ramus> swatto, similarly, you can do the same thing using a service like Dropbox
[15:53] <devils> maybe remove .mozilla dir will help?
[15:53] <swatto> how would I do that? is it difficult
[15:53] <Mamarok> devils: "existts" where?
[15:54] <Mamarok> exists*
[15:54] <devils> in applications - internet - seamonkey
[15:54] <devils> and work...
[15:54] <devils> :S
[15:54] <Mamarok> devils: then you didn't remove all the packages
[15:55] <ign0ramus> swatto, using Dropbox, it's very easy
[15:55] <devils> apt-get autoremove :?
[15:55] <swatto> would i have to create a seperate partiton, reinstall linux etc?
[15:55] <ign0ramus> swatto, currently, it only works with Nautilus, so you'd have to install that if you don't have it already
[15:55] <Mamarok> devils: what package manager do you use?
[15:56] <ign0ramus> swatto, you could just use parted and create a small partition; you wouldn't have to re-install anything
[15:56] <devils> Cannot remove 'seamonkey-browser'
[15:56] <devils> One or more applications depend on seamonkey-browser. To remove seamonkey-browser and the dependent applications, use the Synaptic package manager.
[15:56] <devils> "S
[15:56] <ign0ramus> swatto, heck, if you have a large enough flash drive, you can save your home folder to that if you'd like
[15:56] <Mamarok> devils: the do that
[15:56] <Mamarok> devils: you are using Gnome?
[15:56] <swatto> I have a 16gb usb stick
[15:56] <devils> yes i use gnome
[15:56] <ign0ramus> swatto, that should be ample space to copy your home folder to
[15:57] <swatto> but what I mean is would it save all the apps I have installed etc
[15:57] <Mamarok> devils: then use the synaptic package manager and remove seamonkey with it
[15:57] <Mamarok> devils: FYI Gnome support is in #ubuntu
[15:57] <ign0ramus> swatto, there was talk of making a 'system restore' feature, but i don't think it ever made it past the whiteboard :/
[15:57] <devils> i will try now
[15:58] <swatto> ahh ok, so let me get this straight, my home folder stores all my config settings and kde?
[15:58] <ign0ramus> swatto, mostly, yes.
[15:58] <swatto> I need to read a linux tut to explain a bit about the folders
[15:58] <ign0ramus> swatto, you may want to check this out: http://maketecheasier.com/backup-ubuntu-with-remastersys/2008/12/22
[15:58] <devils> work fine.. thanks :)
[15:59] <Mamarok> devils: you are welcome :)
[15:59] <devils> :P
[15:59] <devils> Anytime :?
[16:00] <ign0ramus> swatto, see here for a bried explanation of the linux directory (folders) heirarchy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[16:00] <ign0ramus> *brief
[16:00] <swatto> thankyou ign0ramus :)
[16:00] <ign0ramus> swatto, np
[16:01] <swatto> im going to install remastersys looks promising
[16:02] <ign0ramus> swatto, hope it works for you - i've never tried it, but like you said, it shows potential :)
[16:03] <timo> hello
[16:03] <ign0ramus> oh hai
[16:03] <timo> any1 from estonia ?
[16:04] <ign0ramus> probably not :(
[16:04] <timo> ok
[16:05] <lol> waz up
[16:05] <ikonia> Guest41383: can you pick a nickname and stick with it
[16:06] <ign0ramus> Guest41383, just don't pick a bad one, because then people will think you're dumb for the rest of your life :(
[16:06]  * ign0ramus knows all too well
[16:06] <Guest41383> XD
[16:07] <timo> why the hell
[16:07] <timo> my nick keeps changing
[16:07] <Mamarok> Guest41383: you need to use a name that is not already in use
[16:07] <timo> ook
[16:08] <timo> any1 play cs 1.6 ?
[16:08] <Guest83683> ok, again, was disconect. how i install a tar.gz package. it is already downloaded and unpacked.. but now i am going crazy, so please, if there is someone who can help me, HELP please, with sugar on top
[16:09] <ikonia> Guest83683: what are you trying to install ?
[16:09] <Mamarok> Guest83683: calm down and tell us exactly what you want to acheive
[16:09] <tsukasa__> hello how i can install wine in the kubunntu
[16:09] <Guest83683> mom
[16:09]  * Mamarok has to logout, screen is running wild here
[16:09] <ign0ramus> Guest83683, http://martin.ankerl.com/2007/04/19/how-to-install-anything-in-ubuntu-condensed/
[16:09] <ikonia> tsukasa__: open the package manager and search for wine then mark for install
[16:10] <Guest83683> WMware server 2.0.0
[16:10] <ikonia> !wmware > Guest83683
[16:10] <ikonia> Gueoops
[16:10] <ikonia> !vmware > Guest83683
[16:10] <ikonia> Guest83683: check out the info ubottu sent you
[16:10] <ign0ramus> good bot!
[16:10] <ign0ramus> !botsnack
[16:11] <timo> i need help dudes
[16:11] <timo> any1 wants to help me ?
[16:11] <ikonia> timo: then ask a question
[16:11] <ign0ramus> !ask | timo
[16:12] <timo> ok
[16:12] <timo> my problem is . very big . when i try to open kopete ei just wont open
[16:12] <timo> i can click over 100 times but it wont open
[16:13] <ign0ramus> timo, try running it from terminal, and see what errors (if any) it spits out
[16:13] <timo> ok
[16:13] <timo> btw
[16:13] <timo> who are u ?
[16:13] <timo> bot ?
[16:13] <tsukasa__> kimset can be install the same way with the software packe?
[16:13]  * ign0ramus is a dude on teh intarwebs
[16:13] <ikonia> timo: ubottu is the only bot
[16:13] <timo> stfu bich
[16:13] <timo> u fucking pervert
[16:13] <timo> u sent porno
[16:13] <timo> i got link from u
[16:13] <ign0ramus> !language | timo
[16:14] <ikonia> sorry about that
[16:14] <ign0ramus> haha :)
[16:14] <timo> hi
[16:14] <[DeViL_KiLLs]> u catch the atantion form ubottu :)
[16:14] <ign0ramus> wtf? ubottu never sends me any porn :(
[16:15] <rocme> hi
[16:15] <rocme> I'm trying to synchronize my mobile phone with kdepim...
[16:16] <rocme> but I have a problem with the installation of the needed kdepim-plugin for opensync
[16:16] <rocme> I cannot find the right package...
[16:16] <rocme> there is no opensync-plugin-kdepim
[16:16] <rocme> same Problem with kitchensync
[16:17] <rocme> does so know for what I have to look for?
[16:18] <ign0ramus> rocme, these are the available opensync packages _ http://rafb.net/p/Jw1mDI33.html
[16:21] <ign0ramus> rocme, as far as i can tell, there is no kdepim-plugin for kde4 (at least without being patched)
[16:21] <rocme> ign0ramus: but why are they not available with apt?
[16:21] <ign0ramus> rocme, see above ^
[16:21] <rocme> :-/
[16:21] <ign0ramus> rocme, http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org/msg636357.html
[16:22] <rocme> :-(
[16:22] <rocme> but thanks for help :-)
[16:22] <Guest83683> when i try this, tar zxvf VMware-server-2.0.0-122956.i386.tar.gz
[16:23] <Guest83683> i get this:  VMware-server-2.0.0-122956.i386.tar.gz: Kann open nicht ausführen: No such file or directory
[16:23] <Guest83683> and i can not put it into my home directory
[16:23] <ign0ramus> Guest83683, have you "cd"'d to the correct directory?
[16:24] <ign0ramus> Guest83683, where is this tar.gz? on your desktop?
[16:24] <Guest83683> desktop
[16:24] <ign0ramus> Guest83683, so "cd ~/Desktop" or whatever its called in German
[16:24] <Guest83683> acan u guide me with the "cd"?
[16:25] <Guest83683> aha!!
[16:25] <ign0ramus> Guest83683, now try the the tar command again :)
[16:25] <Guest83683> its creating
[16:25] <ign0ramus> :)
[16:25] <Guest83683> ;-)
[16:25] <Guest83683> nice!! thx a lot!
[16:26] <ign0ramus> Guest83683, np.  if all questions were that simple!
[16:26] <ign0ramus> Guest83683, just for future reference, the default location of the bash prompt is home - if you need to work on files elsewhere, use the "cd" command to change the working directory
[16:27] <ign0ramus> Guest83683, "cd" = "Change Directory"
[16:27] <Guest83683> if i would think a little bit more easier, than i would not brake myself...
[16:28] <Guest83683> yes, i know what does it mean, i didnt know how to use it for installing tar package
[16:28] <ign0ramus> Guest83683, you're getting there... everyone here was new to linux/kubuntu at some point :)
[16:30] <Guest83683> thats treu, thx. but can you tell me now, why is my cpu running like a idiot? always on top.. full
[16:30] <tsukasa__> how i can install the kimset?
[16:30] <ign0ramus> Guest83683, use the "top" command to see what processes are running and how much cpu they are using
[16:30] <ign0ramus> tsukasa__, "kismet"?
[16:31] <Guest83683> kismet? nana!
[16:31] <ign0ramus> "sudo apt-get install kismet"
[16:31] <tsukasa__> kismet
[16:31] <Guest83683> what this means? trackerd
[16:31] <Guest83683> it is always at 98 %
[16:31] <tsukasa__> yes
[16:32] <Guest83683> since i install something..
[16:32] <ign0ramus> Guest83683, if you don't need it, uninstall it
[16:32] <tsukasa__> i copy and paste that in a command windows
[16:32] <Guest83683> well, it is....
[16:32] <ign0ramus> Guest83683, what is it - like an indexing program to find files?
[16:33] <Guest83683>  5743 hunter    39  19  224m 185m 2044 S 89.5 18.3  75:13.09 trackerd
[16:33] <Guest83683> me
[16:33] <Guest83683> no,
[16:33] <ign0ramus> Guest83683, yes, you said that.  do you need the app?
[16:34] <Guest83683> app?
[16:34] <tsukasa__> thanks this a nice channel
[16:34] <rgarcia> Hi guys...I have a problem...my printscreen and period keys, from right keyboard (number) don't work...
[16:34] <rgarcia> does anybody know how do i fix that?
[16:34] <ign0ramus> Guest83683, do you need trackerd?
[16:35] <Guest83683> true..true..what is this?
[16:35] <tsukasa__> i feel realy happy with linux i make a good choise
[16:35] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, have you tried configuring keyboard in System Settings?
[16:35] <rgarcia> yes, i do...
[16:36] <ign0ramus> Guest83683, from reading, it is an indexing app for searching your filesystem.  the "locate" and "find" commands do that just fine.  Beagle is also a nice gui for search... I'd just remove the package
[16:36] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, it's a shot in the dark, but can you configure them from "Input Actions"?
[16:37] <rgarcia> how do i do that ign0ramus?
[16:38] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, in System Settings > Input Actions
[16:38] <rgarcia> let me see it
[16:38] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, for PrtScrn, what do you want - Ksnapshot?
[16:39] <rgarcia> yes...as it was on 8.04
[16:39] <rgarcia> and i do want my period become a period as well
[16:39] <Guest83683> which kill command?
[16:39] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, ok in the Input Actions left panel, right click, and select New Global Shorcut > Command
[16:40] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, call it whatever "Snapshot" or something
[16:40] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, click the shortcut button on the right and then press the PrtScrn button
[16:40] <rgarcia> hmm let me see
[16:40] <swatto> Anyone have any experience installing games via steam with wine? I try and install left 4 dead but it just exits steam
[16:41] <Guest83683> death
[16:41] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, in action type " ksnapshot " and then click Apply
[16:41] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, are you following?
[16:41] <rgarcia> yes...i forgot the Ksnapshot
[16:41] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, all lowercase
[16:41] <blackflag_> I installed tomcat on ubuntu server x64 9.04. No I dont have access to the webapp. I configure a user but ll the same, no way to authenticate. Can someone help?
[16:42] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, ksnapshot must be installed for this, but i think it comes as kde default
[16:42] <rgarcia> no...it doesn't work
[16:43] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, when you click the "Shortcut:" button, and hit your PrtScrn button, does it change from "None" to "PrtScrn"?
[16:43] <rgarcia> change to Print
[16:43] <rgarcia> only
[16:43] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, that's ok... that means that button is being recognized.
[16:44] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, do you have ksnapshot installed? "sudo apt-get install ksnapshot"
[16:44] <rgarcia> http://paste.ubuntu.com/174380/
[16:44] <rgarcia> yes do that...
[16:45] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, that means you've already created a command for the PrtScrn button... either disable or delete it
[16:47] <rgarcia> deleted it....
[16:47] <rgarcia> my scroll lock does not work as well
[16:48] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, are you on a laptop?
[16:48] <mark_> anyone know how to keep the network manager applet on the panel so it will stay there ? The only way i can get it up and running right now is to open terminal and type in   "nm-applet"
[16:48] <rgarcia> nopi...desktop...
[16:51] <tsukasa__> there is annnny program to see my wyrles signal in the desktop
[16:51] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, have you tried reconfiguring your keyboard?
[16:51] <rgarcia> ign0ramus: no, how do i do that?
[16:52] <rgarcia> ign0ramus: from system settings?
[16:52] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, i think it's
[16:52] <ign0ramus> "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-input-kbd"
[16:52] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, do they work on a livecd?
[16:52] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[16:53] <rgarcia> ign0ramus, how do i open xorg.conf?
[16:54] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, "kdesudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[16:55] <rgarcia> http://paste.ubuntu.com/174387/
[16:55] <rgarcia> here it is
[16:55] <rgarcia> no...no live cd
[16:56] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, hmm... new xorg doesn't contain an entry for keyboards (at least not by default)... :?
[16:56] <Eismann> I think the keyboard is managed with HAL in 9.04
[16:57] <rgarcia> so, there is a problem?
[16:57] <ign0ramus> Eismann, how would you reconfigure keyboard in 9.04?  I'm only familiar with the old xorg.conf way... ?
[16:57] <swatto> What IRC client do you guys use?
[16:57] <ign0ramus> swatto, Konvesation! :)
[16:57] <Eismann> really dont know
[16:58] <Eismann> swatto: quassel
[16:58] <Eismann> let me see
[17:00] <Eismann> May be at /usr/share/hal/fdi/
[17:00] <Eismann> But not sure how it really works
[17:02] <ign0ramus> Eismann, i hate new xorg ... sure it was a pain to configure, but at least everything was right there
[17:02] <Eismann> yep
[17:03] <ign0ramus> xorg and the audio system in 9.04 i still don't get... before, all config files were easy to edit and test... now, i have no idea how to configure anything :S
[17:05] <swatto> Can I get konversation to load minimized at system startup and auto-connect to this channel and identify me with nickserv?
[17:06] <ign0ramus> swatto, yes.
[17:06] <swatto> can you explain how i can do it please ign0ramus
[17:06] <ign0ramus> swatto, to autostart, make a link to the executable in "~/.kde/Autostart"
[17:07] <ign0ramus> swatto, to auto-identify and join this channel, use the Server List features in Konversation (F2)
[17:07] <rgarcia> ign0ramus: no way to configure my keyboard?
[17:08] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, still looking... im not sure how its configured in 9.04... xorg doesn't seem to control it any more :(
[17:09] <rgarcia> damn :(
[17:09] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, you can try making a backup of your current xorg.conf and use the command above...
[17:09] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, who knows, it may work :)
[17:09] <swatto> how can I make it start minimized ign0ramus
[17:09] <rgarcia> ok...let me do that first
[17:10] <ign0ramus> swatto, there is probably a command for that, but I'm not sure :/
[17:10] <ign0ramus> swatto, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=649199&postcount=5
[17:11] <ign0ramus> swatto, use Window-specific behavior for Konversation
[17:11] <ytoox> I got a vaio vgn series and I need to enable bluetooth, but it is not working
[17:11] <ign0ramus> swatto, also, I'd recommend using the kde4 port of konversation, found here: http://konversation.kde.org/wiki/SVN
[17:12] <ytoox> can you help me?
[17:12] <ign0ramus> swatto, see under "to install kde4 port"
[17:12] <rgarcia> so ign0ramus, which command do i have to write?
[17:12] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, it used to be "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-input-kbd" ... not sure if it will work, but if you've made a backup, it can't hurt :)
[17:13] <swatto> gonna see if this works brb
[17:13] <tsukasa__> the kubuntu its buget
[17:13] <tsukasa__> all desktop how i restat the graphic
[17:14] <ign0ramus> tsukasa__, plasma?
[17:14] <rgarcia> did....now?
[17:14] <rgarcia> open the xorg.conf?
[17:14] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, now restart X
[17:14] <tsukasa__> yes
[17:14] <rgarcia> ok
[17:14] <ytoox> I got a vaio vgn series and I need to enable bluetooth, but it is not working
[17:14] <rgarcia> let me see
[17:14] <ign0ramus> tsukasa__, type "plasma" in terminal ?
[17:15] <tsukasa__> icant open the terminal my menu dont show it
[17:15] <ign0ramus> tsukasa__, you can use "alt+f2" then
[17:16] <ign0ramus> tsukasa__, and if you're using kde, terminal is called "konsole"
[17:16] <rgarcia> ign0ramus: nothing happens
[17:17] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, i figured as much, but it was a shot in the dark... let me look around some more
[17:17] <tsukasa__> <unknown program name>(12477)/ checkComposite: Plasma has an argb visual 0x89e30d8 31457281
[17:17] <tsukasa__> <unknown program name>(12477)/ checkComposite: Plasma is COMPOSITE-less on 0x89d8f68
[17:17] <tsukasa__> thats the answer i get
[17:18] <ign0ramus> tsukasa__, try restarting X - plasma should restart automatically
[17:18] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup" should allow you to reconfigure keyboard
[17:18] <Eismann> ign0ramus: take a look at /usr/lib/hal/debian-setup-keyboard and /etc/default/console-setup
[17:18] <rgarcia> ok... ign0ramus you told me that you think that in jaunty worg does not handle it?
[17:18] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, see Eismann's comment above you... looks like that's where they are
[17:18] <tsukasa__> bash: restarting: orden no encontrada
[17:18] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup" should allow you to reconfigure keyboard, though
[17:19] <rgarcia> ok...entered there
[17:19] <Eismann> this is a mess XD
[17:19] <ign0ramus> Eismann, what? the input controlling in 9.04?
[17:19] <tsukasa__> it say the command dost exist
[17:19] <Eismann> yep
[17:20] <ign0ramus> Eismann, i know... i still don't know how to configure my sound properly... it works, but alsa was easy once you knew the commands and settings
[17:20] <ign0ramus> Eismann, i think it goes Sound Device > OSS > Alsa > Pulse Audio
[17:21] <ign0ramus> Eismann, or something like that... it's crazy
[17:21] <rgarcia> ign0ramus: now, restart x-server?
[17:21] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, yes
[17:22] <tsukasa__> ign0ramus: the command it not in system
[17:22] <ign0ramus> tsukasa__, what command are you trying to run again?
[17:22] <tsukasa__> plasma and restarting x - plasma
[17:23] <rgarcia> ign0ramus: no scroll lock and prtscrn yet
[17:23] <rgarcia> :(
[17:23] <ign0ramus> tsukasa__, no, to restart X, hit "ctrl+alt+backspace"
[17:23] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, grrr...
[17:23] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, what does scroll lock actually do? i've never once used it in my life
[17:24] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, i think your prtscrn button is being recognized, but you just don't have anything associated with it.
[17:24] <rgarcia> me either...just saying..because those 3 keys don't work...actually I only use PrtScrn
[17:24] <rgarcia> ign0ramus: how do i associate it?
[17:25] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, when you clicked in Input Actions and hit your PrtScrn button, you said it changed from "None" to "Print" ... that means it's being recognized
[17:25] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, ok, let's do this again... System Settings > Input Actions
[17:25] <tsukasa__> dont do anything the ctrl+alt+back
[17:26] <Laeborg> !mms
[17:26] <Eismann> ctrl+alt+back is disabled in 9.04 by default
[17:26] <ign0ramus> tsukasa__, "dontzap -d" will fix that
[17:27] <Laeborg> what program to play mms streams ?
[17:27] <rgarcia> ok..there
[17:27] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, delete any previous associations you have with the Prts
[17:27] <ign0ramus> *prtscrn button
[17:27] <ign0ramus> Laeborg, vlc or i think mplayer
[17:27] <tsukasa__> Error:  Couldn't disable dontzap (are you running as root?)
[17:27] <rgarcia> ign0ramus: ok
[17:27] <ign0ramus> tsukasa__, "sudo dontzap -d"
[17:28] <ign0ramus> how do you restart X-server when dontzap is active?  anyone?
[17:29] <Eismann> logout to kdm
[17:29] <Eismann> from KDM menu, you can restart X
[17:30] <ign0ramus> Eismann, thanks... tsukasa__ do what Eismann said
[17:30] <pioo> hey, I need some help. I can not install plasmoids. It just says plasma installing package failed
[17:30] <pioo> I've downloaded the package from kde-look
[17:30] <pioo> Can I install it manually??
[17:30] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, here, i'll hook you up with something cool for screenshots - "sudo apt-get install scrot"
[17:30] <tsukasa__> my menu dont showit
[17:31] <tsukasa__> i use sudo restarting x - plasma
[17:31] <rgarcia> ok...done...
[17:31] <ign0ramus> tsukasa__, that's not a command!
[17:31] <rgarcia> restart x?
[17:31] <tsukasa__> and now it traying to get windows again
[17:31] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, what did you do? install scrot?
[17:31] <rgarcia> yes...
[17:31] <tsukasa__> plasma(12621) WirelessInterfaceItem::setConnectionInfo: FIXME: tjkActive connections is empty while connected?
[17:31] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, ok no need to restart X
[17:32] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, you deleted all associations in Input Actions for the PrtScrn button?
[17:32] <rgarcia> ok..what should i do now?
[17:32] <tsukasa__> thats the answer i get now
[17:32] <rgarcia> yes
[17:32] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, ok... here's what we do...
[17:32] <rgarcia> there's no input actions there
[17:32] <Mamarok_> pioo: try downloading it to your local disk then install it from there through the widget manager
[17:32] <tsukasa__> :S
[17:32] <Mamarok_> pioo: but make usre it's for the correct plsma version
[17:32] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, right click in the left pane > New Global Shortcut > Command
[17:32] <pioo> Mamarok: I did this, does not work too
[17:33] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, name it "Screenshot"
[17:33] <Mamarok_> sure even...
[17:33] <pioo> I have the newest Kubuntu  and trying to install a popular plasmoid, Oxygen System monitor
[17:33] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, under "Trigger" click the button that says "None" and hit your PrtScrn button one time
[17:34] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, what does the button say now?
[17:34] <rgarcia> sorry...input actions
[17:34] <rgarcia> right
[17:34] <rgarcia> New global
[17:34] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, command...
[17:34] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, name it "Screenshot" (or whatever you want)
[17:34] <rgarcia> command/url or d-bus command?
[17:34] <ign0ramus> command/url
[17:35] <rgarcia> ok screenshot
[17:35] <rgarcia> Print
[17:35] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, ok on the right where it says "Trigger", click the "None" button
[17:35] <ign0ramus> it says print?
[17:35] <rgarcia> yes
[17:35] <ign0ramus> good.  that means your button is recognized... now...
[17:36] <rgarcia> ok...and now, what should i do?
[17:36] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, where it says "Command" paste this: "  scrot '%s.png' -e 'mv $f ~/Desktop/'  "
[17:36] <Mamarok_> pioo: why not use the installed one? It has more features than every other I've ever seen on kde-looks.org
[17:36] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, ignore the double quotes " - just paste the command
[17:36] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, should say:
[17:36] <ign0ramus> scrot '%s.png' -e 'mv $f ~/Desktop/'
[17:37] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, ok?
[17:37] <rgarcia> works...
[17:37] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, ok, click apply
[17:37] <rgarcia> it pastes to desktop...right?
[17:37] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, exactly :)
[17:37] <ign0ramus> now you have a perfect screenshot in .png form on your desktop each time you hit PrtScrn
[17:37] <rgarcia> mmm..nice....about the snapshot i cant do right?
[17:38] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, if you want ksnapshot, change the command from the scrot one i gave you to 'ksnapshot'
[17:38] <rgarcia> with that command?
[17:39] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, i do it my way, because all i used ksnapshot for was to save the screen to my desktop anyhow... my command automates this, and names each file per Unix timestamp in seconds, so the filename is never duplicated :)
[17:39] <qw1nt> hi people, how I can update my amarok to 2.1b? when I update it with Kpackagekit, it say "broken packages" (sorry for my bad english)
[17:39] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, no - you just put in 'ksnapshot'
[17:39] <malic> r
[17:39] <rgarcia> mm...ok..but now it's for me..thanks a lot
[17:40] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, so it's working for you now?
[17:40] <darkenigma2652> How well will Kubuntu run on: 1.6GHz P4, 512 MB DDR
[17:41] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652,  it will run, but i'm not sure how well :/
[17:41] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, my guess is 'slowly'
[17:42] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: If it runs too slow, I'll install xubuntu-desktop
[17:42] <Eismann> qw1nt: what did you try?
[17:42] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, that's what i was going to say... sounds like a good candidate for XFCE or Fluxbox
[17:42] <pioo> Mamarok: the one i've download unite many features, i think it's better
[17:43] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: I like Fluxbox but it's my family desktop and my bro and dad need to use it
[17:43] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, then do Xubuntu
[17:43] <Mamarok_> pioo: trhy the built in, you will see, it's called "System Monitor"
[17:44] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, although Fluxbox (or other WM's like it) arent all that bad either... just a little sparse
[17:44] <Mamarok_> pioo: you can activate and tweak the settings separately
[17:44] <swatto> Just out of interest - anyone do any programming
[17:44] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: I already burned disk for Kubuntu and I don't want to waste another
[17:45] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, for 9.04?
[17:45] <darkenigma2652> yes
[17:45] <pioo> Mamarok: i still need to install the plasmoid, for weather forecast i should use another plugin
[17:45] <Mamarok_> pioo: for weatcher, try the LCD one
[17:45] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, if i'm not mistaken, you should be able to remove the kubuntu-desktop and install xubuntu-desktop
[17:46] <pioo> Mamarok: it does not have my city
[17:46] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: Yes, I can
[17:46] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, is that a suitable solution for you?
[17:46] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: In synaptic
[17:46] <Mamarok_> I know, I haven't found one that has mine anyway
[17:46] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: Yeah, I'm fine with that
[17:46] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, kde 4 is nice, but probably not on a 1.6 P4! :)
[17:47] <Mamarok_> pioo: in the mean time, I use the forecastfox add-on for Firefox, it list nearly every city in the world
[17:47] <pioo> heitor_DF: heitor da unicesp?
[17:47] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: I decided on Kubuntu because my family is used to Windows and I wanted it to be easy for them
[17:47] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: I could probably just install KDE 3.5 or something, right?
[17:47] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, Xubuntu actually looks similar to Windows (actually Windows 2000, if you ask me)
[17:47] <pioo> Mamarok:  i want plasmoid :'(
[17:48] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: They're used to XP, and my bro has used Vista before
[17:48] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, yeah, but on 9.04, i think there's some workaround you have to do to get kde 3 back
[17:48] <Mamarok_> pioo: then get in touch with the author and ask him for it :)
[17:48] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: Yeah, it's something like the "KDE 3.5 Remix"
[17:48] <pioo> Mamarok: :/
[17:49] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, you can try that... here's a screen of Xubuntu Jaunty http://www.zoopy.com/data/media/39017/original.jpg
[17:49] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, put the panel at the bottom, and you're good to go :)
[17:49] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: Yeah, that's a possibility
[17:50] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, it doesn't look all that bad for how lightweight it is
[17:50] <Mamarok_> pioo: I am serious, ask him, maybe if you tell him which weather station data to use he will add it
[17:50] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: I'll start off with KDE so they can get used to Linux, and if it's too slow I'll install XFCE and tweak it a bit
[17:50] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, good plan.  hope it works out for you!
[17:51] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: The only problem I think I might have is with the sound card
[17:51] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, why's that?
[17:51] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: There are two modules alsa can use for it
[17:51] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, go on...
[17:52] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: If the wrong one is used, I'll have to go through blacklisting and stuff
[17:52] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: Which I've done before, it's just a pain that I might have to
[17:52] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, well, yeah... load one at a time, find which works, and blacklist the other
[17:52] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: Exactly
[17:52] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, shouldn't take more than 10 minutes... just a pain :)
[17:54] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: My family desktop boots up and shuts down surprisingly fast, so maybe less
[17:55] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: I have to go find the names of the modules again so I blacklist and whatever
[17:55] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, i still use a P4 desktop at work, and it's not too shabby.. just gets real hot
[17:55] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, yeah, that's always fun :)
[17:56] <darkenigma2652> I think it's intel8x0 and via82xx but I gotta double-check
[17:56] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, who knows, you may get good sound OOB with 9.04!
[17:56] <darkenigma2652> Maybe
[17:57] <darkenigma2652> intel8x0 is the most common, obviously, but leave it to Sony to use a legacy card XD
[17:57] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, damn Sony :|
[17:57] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: Good computers, BAD crapware
[17:57] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, you got it.
[17:57] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: Not as bad as HP, though
[17:58] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, luckily for me, never had to deal with an HP
[17:58] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: I did and still do =P
[17:58] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, first thing i do is zero out the HDD on any of my new comps
[17:58] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: My grandma's computer is running Vista Basic on 503MB of RAM with more than 30 pieces of crapware
[17:58] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, and for some reason, OEMs have this weird habit of making odd-sized multiple partitions now, too
[17:59] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, i'm surprised its 'running' at all! XD
[17:59] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: It was using 340 MB of the 503 MB at STARTUP
[17:59] <ign0ramus> lol
[17:59] <ign0ramus> Vista is a hungry hungry hippo
[18:00] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: I ran msconfig and disabled a lot of startup items ad services, but there were so many I was confident that I'd screw it up
[18:00] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, not to advocate MSFT, but Win7 is actually refreshing in comparison to Vista
[18:01] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: Vista suck(s/ed)  because MS released it a lot earlier than hardware manufacturers intended
[18:01] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: With 7, everyone's a lot more prepared
[18:01] <blck> how can I Hide programms from the taskbar in kubuntuß
[18:01] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, that's what they said ;)
[18:03] <blck> anyidea
[18:03] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: Ok, I was right. intel8x0 and via82xx
[18:03] <ign0ramus> blck, what do you mean "hide" programs
[18:04] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: Good memory, eh?
[18:04] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, i see you've done this before ;)
[18:04] <darkenigma2652> You have no idea what I went through for my IBM Thinkpad 600E o.o
[18:04] <gan|y|med> hi
[18:04] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, ugh. O_o
[18:05] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, i absolutely love thinkpads, though...
[18:05] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: Freaking legacy drivers...
[18:05] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: Yeah, they're major work horses
[18:05] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: I'm chatting on it right now XD
[18:05] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, i had to get an inexpensive Acer Extensa, which is great for me, but I really want another Thinkpad
[18:05] <blck> ign0ramus, I wont see a special programm in the taskbar, because it is running the whole time and shoudn't be shown in the taskbar
[18:06] <ign0ramus> blck, what program, for example?
[18:06] <gan|y|med> i have a problem with amarok (nightly build). if anybody is knowledgeable about all things amarok, could you pls have a look at this: http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/174412/
[18:06] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: Why are there a few Thinkpads that are $1,000+ when they don' have good stats?
[18:06] <blck> well its a VM of VirtualBox
[18:06] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, marketing... businesses will buy them for the name without knowing tech specs
[18:07] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: LOL
[18:07] <ign0ramus> argh... brb, lunchtime!
[18:07] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: I love IBM/lenovo, though, for the excellent Linux support
[18:09] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: Next time I'm on the XP desktop, I should check out what driver Windows is using for the sound card
[18:17] <swatto> Anyone know where apps installed via wine are stored
[18:18] <carpii> $HOME/.wine/
[18:19] <adrien> bonjour
[18:19] <gan|y|med> swatto: look in k menu. there should be a wine config menu entry that tells you everything
[18:19] <swatto> cheers
[18:19] <Unksi> !fr | adrien
[18:20] <adrien> ah !
[18:20] <adrien> ok
[18:20] <darkenigma2652> omg I understood that o.o
[18:20] <adrien> and if i wand to speak english...
[18:20] <adrien> :p
[18:20] <swatto> when there is a ~ in a path what does it denote?
[18:20] <heberth> hacking ?
[18:21] <ign0ramus_nomnom> swatto, ~ is "home"
[18:21] <ign0ramus_nomnom> oh
[18:21] <darkenigma2652> ~ = /home/account
[18:21] <swatto> ahh ok
[18:22] <ign0ramus> swatto, so "/home/swatto" can be typed "~"
[18:22] <swatto> also how can i change to a directory that has a space in its name in the terminal
[18:22] <ign0ramus> swatto, use quotes
[18:22] <ign0ramus> swatto, cd ~/"Music Files"
[18:23] <darkenigma2652> Ah, thanks for that info
[18:23] <Unksi> or you can do with \, like cd ~/Music\ Files
[18:23] <darkenigma2652> I had trouble navigating through the wine directory b/c of "Program Files"
[18:23] <swatto> thanks :)
[18:23] <ign0ramus> yeah, even in Windows, i tend to name or rename everything with an underscore
[18:23] <ign0ramus> Linux has trained me :/
[18:24] <swatto> I now need to move a file from my Desktop into the folder that I am currently looking at in the terminal, how can i do this?
[18:24] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: Conversation today has been a bit more intelligent than last night, eh?
[18:24] <ign0ramus> swatto, mv /current/location /new/location
[18:24] <Unksi> swatto: mv ~/Desktop/file .
[18:24] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, yeah, but not as funny :)
[18:25] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: True, so tru...
[18:25] <darkenigma2652> true*
[18:25] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, i actually was late to the bar for drinks with friends, because i was staying here dying of laughter
[18:25] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: Clearly I missed some stuff then XD I got off around 9:11
[18:25] <darkenigma2652> lol
[18:25] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, that almost never happens here because people scream "Off topic!!!"
[18:26] <KDesk> hi
[18:26] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, i left around 10:00 ET... i was supposed to be at the bar at 9:00 ::)
[18:26] <swatto> it is saying the target is not a directory but it is
[18:26] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: You didn't catch that I said I got off at 9:11 lol
[18:27] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, oh... that! you guys were ridiculous
[18:27] <ign0ramus> swatto, you can just change your directory in terminal to work there instead of moving the file
[18:28] <ign0ramus> swatto, in this case: "cd ~/Desktop"
[18:28] <ign0ramus> swatto, and then you can work on files on your Desktop
[18:28] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: lol, Not really me. I can't remember who was the real wisecracker
[18:29] <swatto> swatto@SWATTO-DESKTOP:~/Desktop$ mv MOHAA.exe ~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/EA GAMES/MOHAA
[18:29] <swatto> mv: target `GAMES/MOHAA' is not a directory
[18:29] <swatto> thats what it says
[18:29] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, everybody was just being absurd - i can't believe no one got a warning
[18:30] <ign0ramus> swatto, because of the space
[18:30] <ign0ramus> swatto, remember about the quotes?
[18:30] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: Crap, I just screwed up my xfce-panel
[18:30] <swatto> ah yes
[18:30] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: Now my thing for Pidgin is next to my start menu XD]
[18:31] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, i haven't really used XFCE that much, but a friend just got an Aspire One, so I better start learning before he borks his system :)
[18:31] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: When you mess with your system as much as I do, it starts to get real easy XD
[18:32] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, i know that... all too well.   I started on Kubuntu Feisty and ended up re-installing way too many times
[18:32] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: I love messing with Linux, I just don't know what the hell I'm doing XD
[18:32] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, like in Windows, you can just delete the Temp folder, and it will reappear on the next boot.  In Linux, DO NOT delete your /tmp folder! :)
[18:33] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: lol
[18:33] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, i was doing stupid stuff like that all the time, and now i know most of it is fixable, but i didn't know where to begin, so... fresh install, here i come!
[18:34] <KDesk> I have problems with my printer since some days, but I don't know what is the problem. From 127.0.0.1:631 In Administration, Find printer, Cups detects three HP DESKJET 840C printers, but I have only one. When I turn onn the printer or off cups (or something) detects a new printer, but it is again the same printer, so I have it twice or more times installed. And the real problem is when I try to print from FF or Oo.o, it doesn't work, but there isn't any
[18:34] <KDesk> message about any error. So I have to go to 127.0.0.1:631 and select "Start printer" in one of the two or sometimes three printers to start print. It happens all the time. I have triet to remove and pruge many cups, hpijs foomatic gutenprint packages and reinstall them again, but still the same problem. What can I do?
[18:34] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: I don't think even I'M that bad lol
[18:35] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, I am pretty proficient on Windows, and took that confidence over to Linux, where i quickly had my ego reduced to near-nothing :)
[18:36] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: My ego faltered at first, but by now it's stronger than it was XD
[18:36] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, yup... my ego is where it should be... i know some things, but am smart enough to know what not to mess with now :)
[18:37] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, and also where to check/who to ask before trying new stuff out
[18:37] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: I try not to mess with any config files
[18:37] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, config files are fun to mess with, just make a backup first XD
[18:38] <BluesKaj> KDesk,  it's not necessary to give the printer a IP address unless it's a network shared printer connected to a different pc
[18:38] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, my Hardy xorg.conf was huge, all different settings I'd specified for this or that.. and once I got everything right, my system was perfect for me
[18:38] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: You should see the rc.conf in Arch Linux XD
[18:38] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, no thanks! :)
[18:39] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: No, it's actually awesome
[18:39] <KDesk> BluesKaj: hi, it is not the address of the prionter, it is the web interfaz to cups, that is what I understand.
[18:39] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: You can do almost everything in it
[18:39] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, Arch is one distro i haven't tried, but really want to.  their kde is *awesome*
[18:39] <BluesKaj> KDesk, find the driver for your printer make and model in a package manager (I use adept) and check the drivers list for asupported printers
[18:40] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: Are you talking about KDEmod, or the one you get from pacman?
[18:40] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, aww.. their kdemod page is down
[18:40] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: lol
[18:40] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, but yeah, you've seen their kdemod?  Awesome.
[18:40] <BluesKaj> KDesk,  you don't need to config cups if the printer is connected to your pc
[18:41] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: I plan on installing Arch on my 600E (not KDEmod), simply because it sounds and I actually know what I'm doing for once XD
[18:41] <darkenigma2652> sounds good*
[18:41] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, haha. let me know how it goes... I have to choose what OS i want to remove from either my desktop or lappy... i have 7 OS's on 2 computers.
[18:42] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: ... "Over achiever"
[18:42] <KDesk> BluesKaj: it is hpijs, and it is installed too, but it is like the printer is set to "stop" and I have to start it again. But I also don't know why there are three printer, the use the same hpjis driver but are the same physic printer.
[18:42] <swatto> Hmm I cant get the System Tray widget to work
[18:42] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: What distros?
[18:42] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, they're all variants of either Ubuntu or Windows... maybe I'll get rid of XP on the Desktop, now that all my peripherals work in Win7
[18:43] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: I love the word "peripherals"
[18:43] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, yeah, it's a fancy way of saying my crappy Lexmark printer doesn't work in Linux :)
[18:43] <swatto> They system tray widget does not display open applications, its just blank
[18:44] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, i keep windows for my cell phone, printer, and MS Exchange (work), and that's it.
[18:44] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: My old HP should OOB
[18:44] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, HP printers work surprisingly well in Linux
[18:44] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: Because of HPLIP
[18:44] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, which people are apparently having problems with in Jaunty....
[18:44] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: It supports 1860 HP printers
[18:44] <ign0ramus> whoa.
[18:45] <BluesKaj> KDesk,  use the package manager to uninstall the printer / drivers and relogin , then install the printer driver for your make and model listed in the package manager. That's my best advice . :P
[18:45] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: Fantastic news just as I'm about to install Jaunty and connect my printer...
[18:45] <Eismann> swatto: which applications do you have opened
[18:45] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, i don't know what the exact problems are, but I've seen quite a few issues with different people in here
[18:45] <swatto> bluetooth (that doesnt work), klipper and kmix
[18:45] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, again, my printer only works in Windows, so i don't pay much attention to printer questions
[18:46] <KDesk> BluesKaj: Ok, I will try it, thanks!
[18:46] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: It's a really old one with only one driver, I'm sure it'll work fine
[18:46] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, yeah, you should be good then (i hope!)
[18:46] <Eismann> swatto: right click -> systray prefs
[18:46] <Eismann> do the apps appear there?
[18:47] <pioo> hi, i cannot install any plasmioi, i keep getting this error: Installing the package "some plasmoid" failed. Can I debug it?
[18:47] <pioo> fix??
[18:47] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: I found my printer on a site about printers with Linux, and its rank was "Works Perfectly" with the HPLIP driver
[18:48] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: I should be just fine
[18:48] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, was it this? http://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/OpenPrinting
[18:48] <swatto> yep done that
[18:48] <swatto> the apps are listed but they still do not appear on the widget - its just blank
[18:49] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, lol - here's my printer http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Lexmark-x2470
[18:49] <ign0ramus> PAPERWEIGHT
[18:49] <daskreech1> UNDERWEIGHT
[18:49] <ign0ramus> HEAVYWEIGHT
[18:50] <lovre> spam
[18:50] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: http://www.openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-DeskJet_950C
[18:50] <daskreech1> HEAVYRAIN
[18:50] <ign0ramus> lolwut
[18:50] <daskreech1> I don't know I'm doing word association
[18:50] <ign0ramus> daskreech1, its cathartic! :)
[18:50] <daskreech1> It rained from 3:00 PM to 5:00am
[18:50] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, i think it's time for a new printer
[18:50] <ign0ramus> daskreech1, where are you?
[18:51] <daskreech1> In front of the computer
[18:51] <ign0ramus> daskreech1, eastern PA has had off-and-on rain for entire weekend :(
[18:51] <daskreech1> Though I have something cooking so that won't be for long
[18:52] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: For you or for me?
[18:52] <ign0ramus> for me
[18:52] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: k, b/c mine's old but it still works fine for our needs
[18:52] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, lexmark in general sucks.  I got an All-In-One off newegg for like $35, so i bought it (like 3 years ago)
[18:53] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, the ink costs more than the printer!
[18:53] <ign0ramus> it uses a *single* cartridge for color and black
[18:53] <ign0ramus> which means you don't get good color or real black!
[18:53] <daskreech1> Also means when one colour is out you have to replace the whole thing
[18:54] <ign0ramus> daskreech1, you got it.  i hate that thing.  i just print everything at work on a Deskjet :)
[18:54] <Guest87678> hols
[18:54] <Guest87678> hola
[18:54] <daskreech1> Guest87678: DOn't use IRC as root
[18:54] <Guest87678> responde
[18:54] <ign0ramus> !es | Guest87678
[18:55] <Guest87678> hola
[18:55] <daskreech1> hola
[18:55] <ign0ramus> ah, what the hell... hola!
[18:55] <darkenigma2652> ubottu: omg I understood that o.o
[18:55] <Guest87678> hola
[18:56] <darkenigma2652> aloha
[18:56] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, you spend enough time here, you will speak all languages :)
[18:56] <BluesKaj> halo :)
[18:56] <ign0ramus> konichiwa
[18:56] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: I already speak a decent amount of Spanish and I'm taking Italian next year
[18:56] <Guest87678> hola
[18:56] <Guest87678> como estas
[18:57] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, italian is pretty useless unless you're a chef or plan on visiting/living in Italy... still fun to learn, though
[18:57] <Guest87678> hola
[18:57] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: Taking both Spanish and Italian at the same time might get confusing
[18:57] <daskreech1> Guest87678: ingles espanol en #kubuntu-es Gracias
[18:57] <ign0ramus> mas o menos
[18:57] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: Btw, I'm 1/4 Italian and love Italian customs and food
[18:58] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, oh yeah, i'd never discourage anyone from learning, it's just not a 'practical' language to learn
[18:58] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: 66 million people speak it
[18:58] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, and now 66m + 1
[18:59] <daskreech1> Guest87678: escribo /join #kubuntu-es
[18:59] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: Anyway, if you speak more than one romance language moderately well, you'll understand them all moderately well
[18:59] <swatto> Ohh the systray widget just dont work :( no icons are displayed its just blank - anyone else have this problem?
[19:00] <daskreech1> Wait it's escriba isn't it?
[19:00] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, yup... except for Portuguese... I just don't get it :)  I speak some Spanish and took years of Frech, but Portuguese... no clue
[19:00] <ign0ramus> escribez?
[19:00] <darkenigma2652> daskreech1: Escribir = to write
[19:00] <daskreech1> I know :)
[19:00] <rgarcia> ign0ramus: hi, do you if is it possible to install windows to another partition without crash grub loader
[19:00] <rgarcia> ?
[19:01] <daskreech1> rgarcia: Crashing ?
[19:01] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: Escribe = third person / command
[19:01] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, well no, but it's easy to get grub back ;)
[19:01] <daskreech1> escribe :)
[19:01] <maycon> good
[19:01] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: Escribo = I write
[19:01] <darkenigma2652> Wrong person
[19:01] <darkenigma2652> lol
[19:01] <daskreech1> Whoops :)
[19:01] <rgarcia> ign0ramus, setup (hd2)
[19:01] <rgarcia> right and the others procedures back
[19:01] <daskreech1> Guest87678: escribe /join #kubuntu-es :)
[19:02] <ign0ramus> rgarcia, you are missing an entry ... example "(hd0,2)"
[19:02] <darkenigma2652> ir verbs = 'e' endings for third person / command
[19:02] <daskreech1> !grub | rgarcia
[19:02] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, i learned from working in kitchens all through high school and college... i now how it sounds, no idea how its spelled :)
[19:02] <tangent3> anyone knows which mono packages i should install to run .NET apps that depend on mscorlib.dll
[19:03] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: Uh... lol?
[19:03] <daskreech1> Just install Mono :)
[19:03] <darkenigma2652> momculiosis
[19:03] <darkenigma2652> mononucliosis*
[19:03] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, still wrong
[19:03] <darkenigma2652> mononeucliosis*
[19:04] <ign0ramus> nope :)
[19:04] <darkenigma2652> wtf am I even trying to say? lol
[19:04] <tangent3> well, there's no package just called "mono"
[19:04] <ign0ramus> Mononucleosis
[19:04] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: Dude, if you can understand giberish you're insane
[19:05] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652,  i've worked in a kitchen with a couple Mexicans, one Puerto Rican, a Peruvian and a Chinese guy
[19:05] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, "Gibberish" should be taught in schools :)
[19:06] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: No, parents teach their kids enough when they're babies
[19:06] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, and as i'm sure you know, spanish is different, depending on country...
[19:06] <daskreech1> !search mscorlib.dll
[19:06] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, XD
[19:06] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: Argentinian Spanish = Spain Spanish + Italian
[19:07] <ign0ramus> darkenigma2652, yeah, it gets tough... schools teach Castillian, which doesn't help much in the US
[19:07] <daskreech1> tangent3: try libmono-microsoft8.0-cil
[19:08] <ign0ramus> ok, gotta go.  bbl
[19:08] <ign0ramus> cheers guys
[19:08] <darkenigma2652> ign0ramus: Castillian is a type of Italian, rght?
[19:08] <ign0ramus> spain spanish
[19:08] <darkenigma2652> right*
[19:08] <darkenigma2652> lol
[19:08] <ign0ramus> ttl
[19:08] <darkenigma2652> damn
[19:08] <darkenigma2652> k
[19:08] <ign0ramus> ttyl
[19:08] <swatto> Is there an easy way to change the kmenu?
[19:08] <rgarcia> grub!
[19:09] <rgarcia> !grub
[19:09] <^Boja^> Gramsci!
[19:09] <tangent3> daskreech1: got it thanks. now it needs Systems.Windows.Forms library, but i know where to get that now
[19:11] <swatto> Is it worth getting a firewall/antivirus for kubuntu?
[19:11] <Eismann> swatto: try lancelot, is a plasmoid, should be installed
[19:13] <mistrynitesh> need help using skim... installed the language support for the languages i want to use, and 'enabled' the languages Global setup, still no list of languages in taskbar for little widget on the desktop
[19:13] <rgarcia> guys, please....after reinstalling grub, i could boot from windows no more
[19:13] <daskreech1> rgarcia: Why not?
[19:13] <daskreech1> swatto: What do you want it for?
[19:14] <swatto> want what for?
[19:14] <rgarcia> it appears an error 12
[19:14] <daskreech1> swatto: Oh change the kmenu into what ?
[19:14] <daskreech1> swatto: Firewall/antivirus
[19:15] <swatto> I just want to change the kmenu into something a bit nicer looking i suppose (trying to find lancelot).  Just wondered if it was worth installing an antivirus/firewall?
[19:15] <daskreech1> lancelot is nice then
[19:15] <rgarcia> daskreech1: did you understand?
[19:15] <daskreech1> swatto: Antivirus is almost useless unles you are running a server and want to protect the windows machines on your network
[19:15] <daskreech1> Firewall is useful
[19:16] <stodge> When will ubuntu/kubuntu recognise my USB audio device?
[19:16] <daskreech1> rgarcia: Which version of windows?
[19:16] <daskreech1> stodge: have you been trying to help get it working?
[19:17] <rgarcia> windows xp....
[19:17] <daskreech1> rgarcia: Ok try fix Wthe Windows MBR then fix Grub again
[19:18] <rgarcia> how do i fix Windows MBR?
[19:18] <daskreech1> DO you have a windows CD ?
[19:19] <rgarcia> yes
[19:19] <daskreech1> ok Boot it up and press R when the menu comes up and you will get a console there you type fixmbr
[19:19] <rgarcia> just put the cd and try to recover daskreech1
[19:19] <rgarcia> ok...thanks let me da that
[19:20] <swatto> hmm put the lancelot widget on my desktop but doesnt show anything, its blank just like the systray widget
[19:21] <stodge> Is rekonq available for kubuntu?
[19:22] <daskreech1> swatto: on your desktop? Why not on the paneL/
[19:23] <wizardslovak> how to i find in what group my user is in?
[19:23] <wizardslovak> whats command for it?
[19:23] <swatto> well I cant find it to configure it, i just saw it listed in the widget menu
[19:23] <daskreech1> wizardslovak: groups
[19:24] <ForgeAus> I have a similar problem with lancelot
[19:24] <daskreech1> swatto: on the panel you have a little button on the far right side?
[19:24] <ForgeAus> gives me a big red x on the taskbar :(... I think its installed into the wrong kde place tho
[19:25] <ForgeAus> (coz I got 2, kde3 and kde4)
[19:25] <daskreech1> ForgeAus: tried to reinstall the package?
[19:26] <ForgeAus> good idea :) I might, next time I boot Kubuntu
[19:27] <swatto> daskreech1: yes but it doesnt show anything when I click on it
[19:27] <ForgeAus> daskreech you know if theres repos for kde3 remix?
[19:27] <daskreech1> !kde3
[19:28] <daskreech1> swatto: install the package kdeplasma-addons
[19:28] <swatto> its already installed
[19:31] <daskreech1> swatto: ok reinstall kdeplasma-addons-data
[19:31] <ubuntu_> hiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[19:31]  * daskreech1 waves
[19:32] <swatto> just removed it and now reinstalling daskreech1
[19:33] <daskreech1> You can probably purge it I don't think that plasmoids keep that much data around
[19:33] <ForgeAus> daskreech I know of the remix CD I'm asking if theres a repo
[19:34] <daskreech1> ForgeAus: I think it's on that page..
[19:37] <swatto> how do i install lancelot? it is saying cannot find lancelot laucher
[19:41] <tsukasa> sorry how i get the flash for firefox
[19:43] <daskreech1> !flash | tsukasa
[19:43] <daskreech1> swatto: It's gone now?
[19:44] <swatto> yea its really playing up now daskreech1
[19:44] <tsukasa> thanks
[19:46] <Nataouze> does anyone have problems with wifi through nm applet ?
[19:46] <daskreech1> swatto: do you have an konsole open?
[19:46] <swatto> no but i can open one daskreech1
[19:47] <daskreech1> swatto: try running kquitapp plasma && sudo apt-get remove --purge kdeplasma-addons kdeplasma-addons-data && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y install kdeplasma-addons && plasma
[19:47] <Nataouze> Wifi connexion works with a wep key 24 chars long, but not on another router with 10 chars long
[19:48] <Nataouze> anyway, the netmask adress doesn't seem to be saved (actually it is not, i checked in the config file)
[19:52] <swatto> that screwed everything up lol
[19:52] <swatto> dropped my wireless connection when i tried that so couldnt get the packages
[19:55] <tsukasa> iinstall gnush but dot work
[19:56] <daskreech1> swatto: Ha ha sorry. you have a wired connection? you aren't just stealing from the neighbour?
[19:56] <Nataouze> I'm wondering if some persons use nm plasmoid without any issue
[19:57] <swatto> daskreech1: lol no my connection is in the other room so im on a wireless router
[19:57] <daskreech1> proably not for wifi
[19:57] <daskreech1> swatto: Right I was just surprised you came back with no wifi :)
[19:58] <swatto> daskreech1: i restarted
[19:58] <daskreech1> swatto: sooo things are back now?
[19:58] <swatto> daskreech1: yep everything seems to be ok now but still didnt finish running them commands, should i try it again
[19:59] <_amanica_> hi, my plasma stops working all the time, then I have too kill it and start it again. is there something I can do about it?
[20:00] <daskreech1> swatto: try running kquitapp plasma  && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y install kdeplasma-addons && plasma
[20:00] <daskreech1> Since it's removed already
[20:00] <daskreech1> swatto: argh wait
[20:00] <daskreech1> no
[20:00] <swatto> daskreech1: ok
[20:01] <daskreech1> swatto: try running sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y -d install kdeplasma-addons && kquitapp plasma  && sudo apt-get -y install kdeplasma-addons && plasma
[20:02] <swatto> daskreech1: right here goes
[20:03] <tsukasa> the flahs is not suport by kubuuntu
[20:04] <daskreech1> tsukasa: try installing flashplugin-nonfree
[20:06] <swatto> hmm dropped my connection again, got a bit further but i dont think it finished, i had to log out and log in again for it to reconnect
[20:06] <daskreech1> swatto: you can just run plasma to get back net
[20:07] <swatto> how do i do that?
[20:07] <daskreech1> it shouldn't need the network the way I wrote it
[20:07] <daskreech1> you have a konsole open right?
[20:07] <swatto> yep
[20:07] <swatto> you wrote it so it used the connection first before doing the install
[20:07] <daskreech1> just type plasma there
[20:08] <swatto> <unknown program name>(4442)/ checkComposite: Plasma has an argb visual 0x1130ae0 62914561
[20:08] <swatto> <unknown program name>(4442)/ checkComposite: Plasma can use COMPOSITE for effects on 0x1125620
[20:08] <daskreech1> Right It downloads the packages then closes plasma then installs them from the hard drive then starts plasma again
[20:09] <swatto> woo it looks like lancelot launcher works now
[20:09] <daskreech1> :-)
[20:09] <daskreech1> swatto: alt+F5
[20:09] <swatto> hmm why does that error come up though
[20:10] <daskreech1> which one?
[20:10] <swatto> unknown program name 4442
[20:10] <Aronis> hello folks...
[20:12] <MrDarkUser> hi, has anybody figured out how to make 9.04's network manager work?
[20:12] <Aronis> what problem are you facing?
[20:13] <MrDarkUser> it routinely  says that the connection fails, then when I close those dialogs (this is regarding wireless), it connects!  then when the screen saver goes OFF it looses conneciton
[20:13] <MrDarkUser> and I have to go thru that again..
[20:13] <MrDarkUser> basically it kills my downloads so I have to sit with the computer 100 percent of the time
[20:14] <MrDarkUser> it looks much nicer than 8.10's, but I could make 8.10's work :|
[20:14] <MrDarkUser> btw, I upgraded from 8.10 to 9.04 so that could have something to do with it.
[20:15] <Aronis> i use wireless here too, but never faced this kind of problem...
[20:15] <daskreech1> MrDarkUser: are you using knetworkmanager or the NM plasmoid ?
[20:16] <Aronis> knetworkmanager
[20:16] <Aronis> you?
[20:16] <MrDarkUser> daskreech1: NM plasmoid
[20:17] <swatto> thankyou for your help daskreech1, much appreciated :)
[20:17] <cinex> .
[20:19] <Tolucan> hi there
[20:20] <Tolucan> I can't get sound in flash videos to work. I know it's a common problem, but I can't find the information google delivers to be useful.
[20:21] <fehrp> hey guys
[20:21] <fehrp> How can I rename a printer in kde 4.2?
[20:21] <fehrp> in System Control -> Printer Config I can change a lot but not the name...
[20:23] <cinex> anyone know of a socks 5 proxy program?
[20:23] <cinex> a server
[20:23] <cinex> so i can encrypt my irc from work
[20:25] <Tolucan> anyone an idea?
[20:26] <cinex> 64 bit Tolucan ?
[20:26] <Tolucan> yes
[20:27] <cinex> what flashplayer are u using ?
[20:27] <Tolucan> standart plugin I found in the repositories
[20:27] <cinex> alternative or the adobe one ?
[20:27] <cinex> u could see if there is an adobe 64 bit version
[20:28] <Tolucan> so it is a problem with the flashplayer? because I read about codes causing that also
[20:29] <padi999> hey guys
[20:29] <padi999> How can I rename a printer in kde 4.2?
[20:29] <padi999> in System Control -> Printer Config I can change a lot but not the name...
[20:34] <padi999> any ideas?
[20:34] <xor> I have a Dual Core Intel laptop - should I load the 64 bit firefox?
[20:34] <padi999> this seems like an important functionality that
[20:39] <swatto> Anyone know a good tutorial to learn about the inner workings of linux please
[20:41] <jussi01> !training | swatto
[20:41] <jussi01> also
[20:41] <jussi01> !bash
[20:42] <swatto> thankyou
[20:46] <Zorix> I have an atom 330 cpu in my system, should I use the LPIA version of kubuntu?  Will I see a difference?
[20:47] <dyn0myt3> hello
[20:51] <Nokii> Hi all
[20:51] <dyn0myt3> hi
[20:51] <Nokii> I need some information
[20:51] <Nokii> I did the upgrade to 9.04 which went fine
[20:52] <Nokii> However I can not longer admin folder under root
[20:52] <Nokii> what am I doing wrong?
[20:52] <dyn0myt3> hm im new lol :)
[20:53] <Nokii> ok  :)
[20:53] <dyn0myt3> i assume your using sudo
[20:53] <Nokii> in terminal sudo works fine
[20:53] <dyn0myt3> that was left out of some directions i was reading, so i forgot
[20:53] <Nokii> I am talking within the GUI of KDE
[20:54] <dyn0myt3> what is the location of the folder
[20:55] <swatto> Can anyone recommend a good torrent client please
[20:55] <cinex> ktorrent
[20:55] <Nokii> /root/var/www
[20:56] <Nokii> anything under root I cannot change permissions on, add new folder, etc in the GUI
[20:56] <Nokii> It makes no sense
[20:58] <cinex> how do u admin a folder?
[20:58] <cinex> can no longer admin folder under root
[20:58] <cinex> makes no sense to me
[21:01] <dyn0myt3> i cant do  anything there either Nokii
[21:01] <MrDarkUser> Tolucan, if you're using firefox, I have to restart firefox regularly because I hav ethe same problem with no sound on flash video
[21:01] <FrauHansen> Hello. Does anybody know which svg-library Dolphin uses (KDE4.2.3) to generate the previews?
[21:02] <swatto> can i open chm files in linux?
[21:02] <cinex> yeah
[21:03] <Nokii> if I go into terminal and input mkdir /root/var/www/newfolder   hit enter it requests my passwrod which I input and the folder is created
[21:03] <cinex> there is a viewer for chm
[21:03] <cinex> swatto: sudo apt-get install xchm
[21:03] <swatto> thankyou cinex :)
[21:03] <cinex> Nokii: should u not be using sudo ?
[21:04] <cinex> are u aware you can make apache use a folder in a home directory?
[21:04] <Nokii> obviously yes under sudo....which I forgot to type into my example
[21:04] <cinex> kk
[21:04] <cinex> ls -ld /root/var/www
[21:04] <swatto> how come when I look at my Desktop i cannot see the files but when I go into my Desktop folder I can see extra files?
[21:05] <cinex> Nokii: its possible the folder permissions are wrong
[21:05] <Tolucan> you want to use the file manager in root mode?
[21:06] <Nokii> they were correct before the upgrade
[21:06] <cinex> im sure a website under root is dangerous lol.
[21:06] <Nokii> not in the regular www folder  that where they belong
[21:06] <kaddi> swatto: it's the default settings. Normally plasma only shows widgets. If you want to see the content of Desktop on your desktop do a rightclick on your desktop, select settings and choose folderview in the dropdown menu.
[21:07] <cinex> Nokii: ls -ld /root/var
[21:07] <cinex> Nokii: ls -ld /root/var/www
[21:09] <swatto> ahh i see, thankyou kaddi
[21:09] <Nokii> here is the output drwxr-xr-x 8 root root 4096 2009-05-15 14:32 /var/www
[21:09] <swatto> so plasma is what my desktop is? which is different from compiz window-decorator etc?
[21:09] <cinex> plasma is to replace the kicker in kde3
[21:09] <cinex> swatto kill the process and you see
[21:10] <cinex> killall -9 plasma
[21:10] <cinex> ??
[21:10] <kaddi> kquitapp plasma also does the trick :D
[21:10] <cinex> then run plasma
[21:10] <cinex> to startt it up again
[21:10] <swatto> id rather not because it will drop my wireless connection
[21:10] <cinex> i just did it
[21:10] <cinex> my connection is fine
[21:11] <cinex> do it in  a terminal lol...
[21:11] <swatto> what is kicker?
[21:11] <cinex> killall -9 plasma; plasma
[21:11] <cinex> the thing plasma replaced
[21:11] <cinex> seriously
[21:11] <cinex> kill the app and you'll see what it is
[21:11] <swatto> ahh yes i see
[21:12] <swatto> it is used to display all the widgets etc
[21:12] <cinex> yeah
[21:12] <dyn0myt3> anyone else having problems with xmms? i gave up and installed audacious
[21:12] <cinex> kciker used to display the task bar and apps etc
[21:12] <cinex> dyn0myt3: there is a repository for xmms
[21:12] <cinex> the website has a .deb too
[21:12] <dyn0myt3> it kept failing
[21:12] <cinex> what error ?
[21:12] <BluesKaj> dyn0myt3, using amarok1.4 .. still works well
[21:13] <dyn0myt3> it wouldnt even start lol..
[21:13] <dyn0myt3> amarok: when i use Open With Amarok, it sits there for a second, then closes
[21:13] <BluesKaj> dyn0myt3, install libxine1-ffmpeg
[21:13] <cinex> open it in a terminal check for an error
[21:15] <dyn0myt3> ok why do i get this error:  E: Couldn't find package libxinel-ffmpeg
[21:16] <cinex> because that package is not installed
[21:16] <cinex> sudo apt-get install libxinel-ffmpeg
[21:16] <dyn0myt3> i did that
[21:16] <cinex> did it instal ?
[21:16] <dyn0myt3> it ran for a second the returned the error
[21:19] <FrauHansen> dyn0myt3: it's called libxine1-ffmpeg  ...you typed an l (small L instead of 1 one)
[21:19] <dyn0myt3> ah thx
[21:20] <dyn0myt3> he wrote L
[21:20] <dyn0myt3> not 1
[21:20] <cinex> who
[21:20] <dyn0myt3> u
[21:20] <cinex> im not your mum
 sudo apt-get install libxinel-ffmpeg
[21:20] <cinex> im not your mum
[21:20] <MrDarkUser> Anybody know the NM plasmoid configuration files and documentation? Mine's broken enough to make it so I can't use it
[21:21] <dyn0myt3> thats not very helpful tellin me to type the wrong S.
[21:21] <FrauHansen> relax
[21:21] <cinex> i copyed what u said
[21:22] <dyn0myt3> my bad
[21:23] <de2652> Holy crap my XP machine is being fast for once
[21:34] <de2652> So, what's up with everyone?
[21:36] <dyn0myt3> isnt this for Xine  "libxine1-ffmpeg" ?
[22:02] <DiViN3> hello there
[22:03] <DiViN3> i need some help
[22:03] <DiViN3> i download the kubuntu from online but its not in iso format but its in the format of .file
[22:04] <DiViN3> any idea y
[22:04] <Dragnslcr> Where did you download it from?
[22:05] <DiViN3> Singapore Location
[22:05] <DiViN3> NTU
[22:05] <Dragnslcr> What's the URL?
[22:05] <DiViN3> i also tried from other source also its still the same
[22:06] <DiViN3> http://ntuoss1.uni.cx/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/jaunty/kubuntu-9.04-alternate-i386.iso
[22:06] <DiViN3> i tried both the alternate n direct source
[22:07] <phh> DiViN3: your link is .iso, not .file....
[22:07] <Dragnslcr> And the file you get is kubuntu-9.04-alternate-i386.iso.file?
[22:07] <DiViN3> well i know my link is iso but when i complete the download it shows its in .file
[22:07] <Dragnslcr> Are you sure you're letting the download finish?
[22:07] <DiViN3> of coz
[22:08] <DiViN3> i tried many times
[22:08] <Dragnslcr> What browser are you using?
[22:08] <DiViN3> i hv been downloading the iso files from online n hv nvr face such issue
[22:08] <DiViN3> i tried using firefox, IE,Opera, Websynx  all the same
[22:09] <DiViN3> wat could hv went wrong
[22:09] <phh> well it's a iso
[22:09] <phh> check the md5sum
[22:09] <phh> and just burn it
[22:09] <DiViN3> i tried
[22:10] <DiViN3> i even extract the whole file n recompiled to iso but still its show .file
[22:10] <phh> ....
[22:10] <phh> DiViN3: it's your file browser which sucks then
[22:10] <phh> but just check md5sum and burn it
[22:10] <phh> anyway, wo ever trust extensions ?
[22:11] <phh> it doesn't mean anything
[22:11] <DiViN3> 04-ALTERNATE-I386 File
 DiViN3: it's your file browser which sucks then <--- well if thats the case i dnt think it should be the same in several comps right
[22:12] <phh> it's not a problem of the server, not a problem of web browser
[22:12] <phh> the only remaining thing is your file browser.
[22:12] <phh> (or the "thing" saying it's extension is a file)
[22:13] <DiViN3> C:\Documents and Settings\DiViN3\My Documents\Downloads\Operating Systems\kubuntu-9.04-alternate-i386  <---- thats wat it shows in the final issue
[22:13] <DiViN3> but when i open the folder it shows its not an iso
[22:14] <DiViN3> i can see the rest of the iso in there
[22:14] <DiViN3> nvm i guess i hv fixed the issue now
[22:15] <phh> i still don't see the issue actually.
[22:16] <dyn0myt3> sounds like the same problem i had. the zip file you downloaded is the iso, and sholud be treated as a image.
[22:16] <DiViN3> so wat happen dyn0myt3
[22:17] <phh> yeah that's what i'm saying, extensions doesn't mean anything you just have to burn it as is ....
[22:17] <DiViN3> yea but when i burn it it didnt work
[22:17] <phh> you write it as an iso image and not as a simple file
[22:18] <phh> ?
[22:18] <DiViN3> but i manage to resolve that by removing the wubi.exe n recompiled it as iso n it works
[22:18] <phh> ....
[22:19] <dyn0myt3> i used Infrarecorder to burn the cd.
[22:19] <DiViN3> well i guess they should hv release a image without the wubi.exe in it
[22:20] <dyn0myt3> should work if 'burn as image"
[22:20] <phh> DiViN3: well, it's NOT the problem
[22:20] <phh> the problem is that you don't know how to burn iso images
[22:21] <DiViN3> lol
[22:21] <phh> a burner don't even care of what is inside the ISO
[22:21] <phh> you could write totally random data it would works.
[22:22] <dyn0myt3> whats a good   video player to use?
[22:22] <DiViN3> nvm phh , i guess that you dnt seem to understand wat i was refering to
[22:22] <DiViN3> dyn0myt3: use vlc player
[22:22] <phh> yeah sure, i'm totally noob concerning CD burning.
[22:22] <DiViN3> lol
[22:22] <DiViN3> nvm phh just dnt be lame by acting to be modest
[22:24] <ubuntu__> hi when i mount a partition by live cd i can't edit files and folders on it, how to get access
[22:24]  * phh bet it won't even boot.
[22:25] <phh> ubuntu__: even linux partitions ?
[22:25] <ubuntu__> ntfs accessible but ext3 are not
[22:25] <ubuntu__> they are read only
[22:26] <phh> ubuntu__: you know how to use command line ?
[22:26] <ubuntu__> yes
[22:26] <ubuntu__> i opened terminal console now
[22:26] <ubuntu__> what i can do then
[22:26] <phh> ubuntu__: then use ntfs-3g -o umask=777 /dev/sdXY /mnt
[22:27] <phh> and you should have read/write access to the ntfs partition by going into /mnt
[22:27] <ubuntu__> no the problem is with ext3
[22:27] <phh> oh
[22:27] <phh> misread :)
[22:27] <ubuntu__> yes
[22:27] <phh> ubuntu__: i guess you have to use the super user power then
[22:27] <ubuntu__> you mean root or what
[22:28] <phh> yes
[22:28] <phh> ubuntu__: launch sudo konqueror
[22:28] <phh> the new window will be as root user
[22:29] <hydrogen> use kdesudo for gui apps
[22:29] <ubuntu__> i'll restart and come back
[22:31] <NeoTr> Arkadaşlar iyi akşamlar
[22:33] <aaron__> hi i need help mounting my ntfs partitions
[22:34] <aaron__> after fresh install i'm able to access my windows par however i have to click on them than enter my password
[22:34] <yoshiy> aaron__: do you want to auto mount the partition at startup?
[22:35] <aaron__> yoshiy:  yes sir
[22:35] <yoshiy> aaron__: use "kdesudo kate /etc/fstab"
[22:36] <ubuntu__> phh yes it worked thank you
[22:36] <phh> ubuntu__: fine
[22:36] <aaron__> yoshiy:  what next ?
[22:37] <yoshiy> aaron__: add a new line :"/dev/sda1 /media/WinXP ntfs-3g rw,auto,user,sync,noexec 0 0"
[22:37] <yoshiy> if it is sda1
[22:38] <aaron__> thats my problem i don't know where my ntfs par are /dev/sda
[22:38] <yoshiy> aaron__: use "mount" to find out ;)
[22:41] <yoshiy> aaron__: here you can get more information about the fstab file and how to edit it: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html
[22:45] <aaron__> thanks yoshiy will i be able to write on my ntfs partitions/
[22:46] <yoshiy> aaron__: now problem, i had the same issue at the beginning (i wanted to use wallpapers from other paritions and stuff) ;)
[22:46] <yoshiy> *no
[22:47] <aaron__> so i can't write to ntfs on linux?
[22:47] <yoshiy> you can
[22:47] <aaron__> thats the correct line for rw access
[22:47] <aaron__> /dev/sdb5       /media/Music    ntfs-3g rw,auto,user,sync,noexec 0 0"
[22:48] <aaron__> what i have so far
[22:48] <yoshiy> yes, this should work
[22:49] <aaron__> ok thanks can i test without rebooting ?
[22:49] <phh> do sudo mount -a
[22:49] <yoshiy> yup :)
[22:51] <aaron__> no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab
[22:53] <aaron__> woot!! figured it out everything is working nice :)
[22:53] <yoshiy> glad to hear :)
[22:55] <dyn0myt3> i downloaded a tar.bz2 file . but my instructions say tar.gz how do i unzip bz2
[22:55] <cinex> tar -jxvf file.tar.bz2
[22:56] <cinex> the -j is for bzips
[22:56] <phh> no need for - neither j neither v
[22:56] <cinex> -z gor gz
[22:56] <cinex> yeah u need the j
[22:56] <phh> no.
[22:56] <phh> j has been useless for many years
[22:56] <cinex> its not useless
[22:57] <cinex> do u not need it to create a bzip either?
[22:57] <phh> oh well yes
[22:57] <phh> it's useless only for extraction.
[22:57] <cinex> ic
[22:57] <dyn0myt3> ty Cinex
[22:57] <phh> (and for displaying)
[22:58] <chalcedony> waves to michael`
[22:59] <dROg> waves back to chalcedony but under other appearence
[22:59] <dROg> :)
[22:59] <cinex> but what if the archive has the extention .bz2 but is really a .gz
[22:59] <cinex> will tar figure that out?
[22:59] <cinex> im curious
[22:59] <cinex> and cant be bothered to experiment
[22:59] <cinex> :P
[23:00] <phh> cinex: you can just forget any extension it will still works ...
[23:00] <phh> phh @ phh-desktop ~ % tar tf test
[23:00] <phh> test.c
[23:00] <phh> phh @ phh-desktop ~ % file -z test
[23:00] <phh> test: POSIX tar archive (GNU) (bzip2 compressed data, block size = 900k)
[23:00] <phh> phh @ phh-desktop ~ %
[23:00] <cinex> ill remember that
[23:01] <dyn0myt3> hm
[23:01] <dyn0myt3> it didnt work i had to use cinex instructions.
[23:02] <cinex> tar -xf filename
[23:02] <cinex> didnt work ?
[23:02] <cinex> do u still need the f ?
[23:02] <phh> yes you need
[23:02] <hydrogen> well
[23:02] <phh> else it will read on the standard input
[23:02] <dyn0myt3> sry im confused :)
[23:02] <cinex> i wonder how many tape drives still get used
[23:02] <hydrogen> you could do cat file.tar.gz | tar xv
[23:02] <hydrogen> but that'd just be silly :)
[23:03] <phh> hydrogen: autodetection still works on streams ?
[23:03] <hydrogen> probably not
[23:03] <hydrogen> which is why it'd be silly
[23:03] <dyn0myt3> tar -jxvf file.tar.bz2  ; was the only thing i could use.
[23:03] <hydrogen> :>
[23:03] <phh> yeah it doesn't
[23:03] <phh> dyn0myt3: your system is more than 5 years old or what ?
[23:03] <dyn0myt3> no lol
[23:03] <phh> (fine just 3.)
[23:03] <dyn0myt3> i just installed Kubuntu and this motherboard is not even a year old
[23:04] <phh> hydrogen: it's really weird, cat thing |tar t won't works
[23:04] <phh> but it knows i have to add the j option :-)
[23:04] <hydrogen> heh
[23:04] <hydrogen> yea
[23:04] <phh> anyway, tar is supposed to be obsolete
[23:04] <phh> normally you should use the pax command
[23:04] <hydrogen> kinda like what the perl shell does when you type in exit
[23:06] <aaron__> anyone know if desktop search works on ntfs partitions ?
[23:07] <phh> aaron__: i'd say no, but can't be sure unless you try :p
[23:08] <dyn0myt3> ok i unzipped the  file now i have xine-lib-1.1.16.2 And it wants me to do "./configure make install"  but i get no Dir
[23:08] <phh> (some time ago, desktop search needed xattr, which aren't available on ntfs, but it's maybe no longer true)
[23:08] <aaron__> thanks so far it's not showing any of my files on ntfs while searching
[23:08] <phh> dyn0myt3: cd xine-lib* && ./configure && sudo make install
[23:08] <dyn0myt3> cd xine-lib
[23:08] <dyn0myt3> doh
[23:10] <phh> yeah you need to be in the right folder.
[23:10] <dyn0myt3> worked
[23:11] <dyn0myt3> but its missin zlib
[23:11] <chalcedony> *hugs* dROg :))
[23:12] <Assurbanipal> hi guys, how can i install wine 32 bit on a Kubuntu 9,04 64bit machine?
[23:14] <xjjk> Assurbanipal: depends what you want to do... but the best way is to use a chroot
[23:17] <mellhen> Is there a way to support kubuntu?
[23:17] <Assurbanipal> what is chroot?
[23:18] <xjjk> Assurbanipal: it can let you setup another distribution within your current one, without having to virtualize
[23:18] <xjjk> i.e. you can run 32-bit Kubuntu within 64-bit Kubuntu
[23:19] <xjjk> Assurbanipal: I need to go, but search the web a little... will find a ton of info about it, especially regarding Debian's AMD64 port
[23:19] <Assurbanipal> i just want to install wine on my system, but i don't thing wine 64 would be suitable due to lack of 64 bit windows programs
[23:19] <xjjk> Assurbanipal: that doesn't matter, I don't think?
[23:19] <xjjk> 64-bit WINE runs 32-bit Windows executables fine AFAIK
[23:19] <xjjk> most of the time
[23:20] <Assurbanipal> really?
[23:20] <xjjk> did you try?
[23:20] <Assurbanipal> even games etc?
[23:20] <Assurbanipal> no,haven't tried
[23:20] <xjjk> I run simple apps all the time without problem
[23:20] <xjjk> I've not tried games
[23:20] <xjjk> but I imagine so
[23:20] <phh> xjjk: when you say "64 bits wine", you mean the wine delivered in 64bit ubuntu?
[23:20] <xjjk> phh: yes
[23:20] <phh> ok
[23:20] <phh> (because it's no 64bit wine, it's still a 32bit )
[23:20] <xjjk> phh: actually, is that even a 64-bit-compiled WINE?
[23:21] <Assurbanipal> i don't know, if i "sudo apt-get install wine" i suppose it will isntall 64 bit wine,right?
[23:21] <phh> xjjk: no it's 32bit compiled :p
[23:21] <xjjk> phh: ah, I was wondering that
[23:21] <phh> you can build wine in 64bits
[23:21] <xjjk> Assurbanipal: problem solved then
[23:21] <phh> but only 64bits windows apps will run
[23:21] <xjjk> it's a 32-bit WINE made to run on a 64-bit system
[23:21] <phh> so almost none :p
[23:21] <xjjk> phh: I see
[23:21] <Assurbanipal> so what should i do ten?
[23:21] <Assurbanipal> *then
[23:21] <xjjk> Assurbanipal: just `sudo aptitude install wine`
[23:21] <xjjk> and use that
[23:22] <xjjk> it'll work
[23:22] <Assurbanipal> and just to know, this will give me 32 bit wine?
[23:22] <phh> yep
[23:22] <phh> root is evil!
[23:22] <Assurbanipal> that it will be able to run 64bit windows appz too?
[23:22] <phh> Assurbanipal: no
[23:22] <phh> only 32bits ones
[23:23] <Assurbanipal> so there is no wine for 64 bit windows apps?
[23:23] <phh> there is
[23:23] <phh> but none built for ubuntu in official repositery
[23:23] <phh> i guess you will have to build it by yourself
[23:23] <phh> or maybe there is a ppa
[23:31] <MOLLYnezu> I can install dynamic energy saver for ubuntu?
[23:31] <phh> on laptops it is automatically done
[23:32] <MOLLYnezu> with ubuntu ???
[23:32] <phh> yes.
[23:33] <MOLLYnezu> only laptops ?
[23:33] <Regral> I have unbubtu and ive got trouble loading flash player video
[23:33] <ficoos> hi, the wierdest thing happened. I changed the batteries in my Blutooth mouse and since then the scroll wheel is not working. Any idea what might be wrong.
[23:33] <phh> MOLLYnezu: some features are  for all systems
[23:33] <MOLLYnezu> tx
[23:35] <dyn0myt3> Regral: what browser are you using
[23:36] <Regral> fire fox
[23:41] <dyn0myt3> try http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/flash
[23:41] <Ariathaxx> Hello people, I can not install Kubuntu using Wubi I get error: (Cannot download the metalink and therefore the ISO) Why why why?
[23:41] <AlexZion> hi everyone, there is a way to disable my touchpad on boot ? , I mean , I know the commandto do that by using konsole,but I'd liketo avoid it everytime , someone can help me
[23:42] <swatto> good night all
[23:42] <ign0ramus> nite swatto
[23:42] <Ariathaxx> Hello people, I can not install Kubuntu using Wubi I get error: (Cannot download the metalink and therefore the ISO) Why why why?
[23:43] <ign0ramus> AlexZion, whats the command to disable touchpad
[23:44] <Ariathaxx> Anyone know how to solve the problem using Wubi.exe??????????
[23:47] <Jado> hi, i've just installed kubuntu 9.04 on a new laptop but i can't start a graphic session i got : "kstartupconfig4 does not exist or fails. The error code is 3. Check your installation"
[23:47] <Regral> Can anyone fix a problem with installing adobe flash player o ubuntu
[23:48] <yoshiy> Regral: did you already tried the package "flashplugin-nonfree" ?
[23:49] <ign0ramus> Regral, "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree" then restart firefox
[23:49] <Regral> yea im ninstalling it at and gonna try to manual the adobe
[23:50] <ign0ramus> Regral, the one from Adobe generally gets overwritten by the packaged version when you apt-get upgrade anyway, but feel free
[23:50] <Ariathaxx> How do I install Kubuntu without a CD?
[23:50] <ign0ramus> Ariathaxx, flash drive
[23:50] <Regral> ill try what you suggested
[23:50] <Ariathaxx> like a USB right?
[23:50] <ign0ramus> Ariathaxx, exactly like that :)
[23:51] <Ariathaxx> Ok, how big flashdrive I need?
[23:51] <ign0ramus> Ariathaxx, as big as the ISO
[23:51] <ign0ramus> Ariathaxx, with your wubi problem, you need to put the ISO and wubi in the same directory.
[23:52] <Allydede> hello can get the ksmoothdock for the amd64 system?
[23:52] <Ariathaxx> Ok, I try with putting them in same directory :)
[23:53] <ign0ramus> Allydede, did you look at kooldock?
[23:53] <ign0ramus> Ariathaxx, yes, they must be in the same folder for it to work
[23:53] <Ariathaxx> Can wubi only install ubuntu?
[23:53] <ign0ramus> Ariathaxx, as opposed to what?
[23:53] <Ariathaxx> Opensuse or something
[23:53] <dyn0myt3> lol
[23:53] <ign0ramus> wubi = windows UBUNTU installer
[23:53] <Allydede> ign0rmus, no but i try it now thx
[23:53] <Ariathaxx> yes, only chekcing
[23:53] <Ariathaxx> checking*
[23:54] <Ariathaxx> so kubuntu can play pc games good using wine? :)
[23:54] <Ariathaxx> Never used kubuntu really
[23:54] <dyn0myt3> wow at   least
[23:54] <Jado> hi, i've just installed kubuntu 9.04 on a new laptop but i can't start a graphic session i got : "kstartupconfig4 does not exist or fails. The error code is 3. Check your installation"
[23:55] <ign0ramus> Ariathaxx, I wouldn't recommend it... keep your windows games on windows... but some games (like Blizzard games) do run as well (or even better!) on WINE
[23:55] <dyn0myt3> just the windows managers dont like Alt + Tab ing much
[23:55] <yoshiy> Ariathaxx you can check at http://winehq.org if the game u like is supported
[23:55] <dyn0myt3> thats why i switched to K, gnome is the worst.
[23:56] <Ariathaxx> Let's say I have World of Warcraft installed on a directory on my secondharddrive, I can access my harddrive through Kubuntu and start World of warcraft without installing the game again?
[23:56] <dyn0myt3> yes
[23:56] <dyn0myt3> you can play it directly from the location on the  NTFS partition
[23:56] <yoshiy> does this apply to all games?
[23:56] <dyn0myt3> but i think your supposed to copy it to /home
[23:57] <dyn0myt3> idn i only play wow :P
[23:57] <valgaav> Ariathaxx: AFAIK WoW is one of those games that can work great with wine
[23:58] <dyn0myt3> jjust make sure video card is correctly installed
[23:58] <Ariathaxx> Ok sounds great
[23:58] <ign0ramus> i forget where i saw it, but some games actually run smoother on wine than on windows ...
[23:58] <valgaav> but it also depends on GPU ... Wine sadly still tends to work better with nvidia blob ...
[23:58] <dyn0myt3> before you start wow
[23:58] <yoshiy> another way to run win games is to use virtualbox + wined3d
[23:59] <Ariathaxx> I am temporary changing OS from Windows Vista to Kubuntu since my windows says I have fake serial and will be closed today ;)
[23:59] <dyn0myt3> doh
[23:59] <joshjtl> hi folks, is there some way to make amarok2 look/act more like its predecessor amarok 1.4? I find it not that intuitive at the moment.
[23:59] <ign0ramus> Ariathaxx, Vista is terrible anyway... if you have to use Windows (like I do), you can get a free copy of Win7 that last for about another year
[23:59] <valgaav> well you can get free windows for a year time with windows 7 rc