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Viper550dashua, well, you can help with artwork01:06
SiDiDon't steal my dashua ! :O01:07
SiDiNight people01:41
Viper550heck did some tango-esque bowling pin graphics01:53
Viper550and http://bayimg.com/image/fapnkaabl.jpg03:25
Viper550hey03:26
SiDihello09:40
SiDianyone here working on breathe ?13:28
dashuaDell Mini 9 shipped FINALLY. w00t.13:36
dashuaThey must have been swamped with orders.13:36
SiDilol dashua :d13:38
SiDienjoy13:38
SiDi(thats when u're happy to have negociated D+1 support)13:39
dashuaYeah, it worked.13:39
dashuaI have my NBR USB loaded and ready to go.13:40
dashuaor UNR whatever the abbreviation is.13:40
SiDiunr :p13:40
SiDitry xubuntu too ! :D13:40
dashuaI will.13:41
dashuaSiDi: Are you using Breathe from trunk?13:55
dashuaThose navigation icons were fixed.13:55
SiDinot sure13:55
SiDii think im on the repo13:55
SiDioh damn13:55
SiDii again sent an useless mail13:55
dashuaI'll send you the new .deb13:55
SiDialright, cheers :p13:55
dashuaCheck your gmail :)13:57
SiDiThanks13:57
dashuaNp13:58
SiDiyummie, folder icons are cleaner13:59
dashuaYeah13:59
zniavrei believed first screen shot as new feature14:16
zniavreit looks "nice"14:16
zniavreoops sorry14:17
SiDihello zniavre ;)14:17
zniavrehttp://img30.imageshack.us/img30/6182/leftrightj.png14:17
zniavresalut SiDi14:17
zniavrei was reading your mail14:17
SiDiheh14:17
SiDiI personally don't like having a big left arrow everywhere14:17
SiDieven if in firefox it doesnt look bad14:18
zniavrea guy made a mockup with nautilus like that14:20
zniavrei would like to try if it's "usable"14:20
SiDimockups often remain at the state of a nice gimp collage unfortunately :)14:20
zniavreremain > harraps mode ON14:21
zniavreyes ! taht s true14:22
zniavreth*14:22
zniavrehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/Ubuntu_8.10_Theme_-_Art_Team?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=SampleNautilus.png14:35
zniavrewas quite nice no?14:35
SiDiyeh :)14:37
Viper550yep14:37
SiDithats the main problem of stuff such as gtk/qt, compared to windows's gui14:37
Viper550kinda reminds me of firefox14:37
SiDisince we want modulable things, we can't hardcode such stuff everywhere as they do14:38
SiDibut we can theme our GUIs :)14:38
* SiDi goes back to his desperate project report..14:39
Viper550I'm kinda designing a UI for something http://bayimg.com/image/fapnkaabl.jpg14:46
Viper550hey14:48
Viper550andreasn, been kinda designing a UI for a project15:22
andreasnhi Viper55015:22
Viper550http://bayimg.com/image/fapnkaabl.jpg15:23
andreasnwhat is it for?15:23
Viper550https://launchpad.net/kba15:23
Viper550tis a mockup15:23
andreasnis it to be used in those monitoes you see in the bowling lane?15:24
andreasnmonitors15:24
thorwilViper550, why do you only use such a small part of the screen?15:25
Viper550andreasn, yeah. thorwil, this is only one player15:25
thorwilViper550, needs more space between the 2 lines in the buttons15:26
andreasnViper550, wow, cool challenge15:26
thorwilViper550, "TOTAL" should line up with the "75"15:26
Viper550I just arranged it like this because I get sick and tired of getting my name reduced to 1 or 3 letters.15:27
andreasnhow many players can there be in total?15:27
Viper550Maybe 6 per lane, but if we scale it correctly it could fit 1215:28
thorwilViper550, you could gain  a lot my not sticking boxes into boxes. rely on whitespace for separation and maybe lines if really needed15:29
Viper550okay, let's see how my rivals do it. qubicaamf... http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ir1CmpeK8ag/SDDHhPAU3jI/AAAAAAAAAGs/cHaUJ0w0o3U/s400/BowlingScore.JPG15:30
Viper550their's has this stupid thing that literally STRETCHES the active bowler name in a very horrid looking look15:30
Viper550they can scale their rows, I saw screenshot of it with 12 players loaded in.15:31
Viper550http://www.kwib.de/highscore.gif the newer Brunswick Vector...is15:32
thorwilcool, looks 20 years old15:33
Viper550thorwil, http://lh3.ggpht.com/_yPD_ZiWcIDY/SIK5uU_PRMI/AAAAAAAAA7A/3NOtJd4zdtA/Bowling+Score.JPG and this is something I see alot in my town. two alleys in my area has this older AMF AccuScore15:33
Viper550and vector to me only looks about maybe 3 years :P15:34
Viper550though despite its dos-ish look, that one does has this cute effect for changing players. the highlighted row kinda drains its highlight, then fills in on the new player15:35
thorwilViper550, anyway, i guess that you have to take crappy displays and bad viewing conditions into account. that means you should use minimal graphics15:36
Viper550But I don't wanna be too minimal15:36
Viper550let me see if I can pull up this YouTube video I saw with this Amiga-based one I have bowled on before15:37
Viper550and someone suggested I go for that HP Mi look15:43
andreasnthorwil, yeah, I think gradients are tricky on crappy displays like CRT TV's15:54
Viper550so, how should we go about this?16:03
Viper550note in 5-pin, you throw 3 balls16:03
Viper550andreasn, they are using LCD more now. Place I went to few weeks ago had HDTV's (though I swear it was probably an upconverted feed)16:06
Viper550so, got any influence I could use?16:22
Viper550I am thinking of either using a Tango style or Breathe in the manager UI16:26
andreasnthe manager UI is a totally different UI to use on regular desktop machines?16:41
Viper550andreasn, yeah,16:42
Viper550http://www.qubicaamf.com.ro/images/boss_schermate_2big.jpg this is what qubica's looks like, though we may try to stray towards Gnome HIG maybe16:42
andreasnwow, that looks,um, interesting16:43
Viper550it runs off Windows...16:43
andreasntouch screen UI?16:43
Viper550I think16:44
andreasnif you can make the buttons bigger at the expense of loosing some of the icons, I think you should do that16:46
andreasnthe icons in that UI don't really convey anything special and forces the text to remain small16:47
SiDithough, icons are very practical for spotting an element on a crowded screen16:47
SiDibut its true on this UI they're useless16:47
Viper550and its a smaller screenshot16:47
andreasnwell, the icons makes the screen crowded in themselves16:47
Viper550ours, will probably not have "as many" functions as Conqueror16:50
Viper550it'll probably have lane manager, league squad thing, setup, etc16:51
Viper550maybe an evolution-like design?17:04
Viper550as I read through the HIG17:09
thorwilkwwii, heh, looks what silly map the fedora guys use: http://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/a/a2/Tours_Fedora11_001_Install_Timezone.png ;)19:46
Viper550thorwil, http://bayimg.com/image/hapapaabm.jpg20:06
Viper550improved a bit20:06
thorwilViper550, make sure the numbers stand out. they shouldn't get in a fight with the edges20:07
Viper550I have to fit up to 3 digits in that total column20:08
knomeViper550, sure, but a bowling counter must be easily readable20:09
Viper550reduce the brightness of those borders?20:10
knomemaybe add a bit more padding20:11
Viper550between score cards?20:12
knomebetween the numbers and the borders20:12
Viper550and should that status panel be at the top or bottom?20:18
knomei'm not sure. bottom looks good20:20
Viper550thorwil, wondering what kind of bowling I've specifically designed this for? (non-free plugin requiring site ahead)20:36
Viper550Anyway, I found out from email corrospondence, the old manager that the previous Joystick Scoring system used, was coded with Borland C++20:48

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