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| micahg | hggdh: ping | 04:11 |
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| ethan | hi | 04:14 |
| ethan | Anybody here | 04:14 |
| pperera | just state your problem .. request and if anyone 'can' answer they will | 04:17 |
| ethan | why cant i download Google Earth or Skype via Terminal? | 04:18 |
| micahg | ethan: that's more of a support question, but here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu | 04:30 |
| pace_t_zulu | hey micahg | 05:30 |
| micahg | hi pace_t_zulu | 05:34 |
| pace_t_zulu | how're u doing? | 05:34 |
| micahg | ok | 05:35 |
| pace_t_zulu | micahg: what is your launchpad username | 05:35 |
| micahg | micahg :) | 05:35 |
| micahg | why? | 05:35 |
| pace_t_zulu | i googled 'micahg site:launchpad.net" and got nothing | 05:36 |
| micahg | that would be a bug with google :) | 05:36 |
| pace_t_zulu | you've got some great karma my friend | 05:36 |
| pace_t_zulu | a man with answers... | 05:37 |
| micahg | :) | 05:37 |
| micahg | That's where I started | 05:37 |
| micahg | and I moved into bugs | 05:37 |
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| micahg | pace_t_zulu: are you a member of bug control? | 05:53 |
| pace_t_zulu | micahg: i don't think so | 05:53 |
| pace_t_zulu | micahg: i think i'm just lowly BugSquad | 05:53 |
| micahg | ok | 05:54 |
| micahg | I need someone with triaged privs | 05:54 |
| pace_t_zulu | micahg: sorry... i'm not it | 05:54 |
| micahg | ok | 05:58 |
| darizzle | if you just post it n here | 05:59 |
| darizzle | they will deal wth it when they see it | 05:59 |
| micahg | well I have a list of issues | 06:00 |
| micahg | so I'll jsut wait | 06:00 |
| Hew | micahg: What do you need? | 06:14 |
| micahg | Hew: I'm testing something else right now | 06:20 |
| micahg | will you be around for a little while? | 06:20 |
| Hew | micahg: I don't know, but I suggest you post whatever you need here so anyone able can help you with it. | 06:21 |
| Hew | micahg: It's hard to help with something we have no idea about. | 06:22 |
| micahg | it's ok | 06:22 |
| micahg | it can wait till morning | 06:23 |
| micahg | I have a list of issues I was going to go over with my mentor | 06:23 |
| Hew | ah ok | 06:27 |
| balachmar | Hi, wan t to fix bug #370261 by specifying the mentioned flags in the makefile. Compiling with -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=0 -fno-stack-protector makes the package work. (Have verified this on my own machine) However I am not a compiling expert are there any downsides of these arguments to the compiler? | 10:53 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 370261 in nvram-wakeup "nvram-wakeup buffer overflow detected" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/370261 | 10:53 |
| balachmar | I know it is only a temporary work around, but I think it is better to have a working package instead of a broken one... | 10:54 |
| balachmar | Especially because this is often used for htpc recording stuff. Which will now not wakeup for the next recording. | 10:55 |
| bencrisford_ | Hey balachmar! :D | 10:57 |
| bencrisford_ | this channel is mainly about bug triaging | 10:57 |
| bencrisford_ | I suggest you visit #ubuntu-motu | 10:57 |
| bencrisford_ | for some packaging advice :) | 10:57 |
| balachmar | ooh, ok! :) Thanks | 10:57 |
| persia | Technically, this is compilation advice rather than packaging advice, but the same forum is probably useful :) | 10:58 |
| bencrisford_ | oh :S | 10:58 |
| bencrisford_ | but compiling is kind of packaging | 10:59 |
| bencrisford_ | because packaging involves makefiles also right? im probably wrong | 10:59 |
| bencrisford_ | but the motu will be able to help | 10:59 |
| persia | bencrisford_, Well, it's more complicated than that, and depends on who you ask, and ... :) | 10:59 |
| persia | But yes, the MOTU ought be able to help. | 10:59 |
| bencrisford_ | ok :) | 10:59 |
| balachmar | already asked in motu :) | 11:00 |
| persia | Note that sometimes discussion here gets quite technical, so it's never wrong to ask about a bug here, but if nobody responds, it can be worth asking elsewhere, just to get a different bunch of people. | 11:03 |
| bencrisford_ | ok :) | 11:03 |
| bencrisford_ | yeah | 11:03 |
| bencrisford_ | but this channel is technically about bug triaging | 11:03 |
| bencrisford_ | thats why its here | 11:04 |
| bencrisford_ | so people on here arent always expected to know | 11:04 |
| bencrisford_ | thats all i meant :) | 11:04 |
| balachmar | no worries, I like being pointed the right way :) Glad that someone takes the time to do that. | 11:16 |
| bencrisford_ | :) | 11:16 |
| persia | bencrisford_, Right. Some people might, some might not. There's a diverse mix of people here :) | 11:19 |
| persia | bencrisford_, And pointing to #ubuntu-motu was definitely the right advice: I'm just noting that, depending on relative channel traffic, etc. sometimes this isn't a bad place for some discussions. | 11:19 |
| bencrisford_ | im not disputing that people on here would know | 11:20 |
| bencrisford_ | im just saying that people wouldnt be expected to | 11:20 |
| bencrisford_ | well not all people | 11:20 |
| bencrisford_ | because this is the triaging chat :) | 11:20 |
| persia | And I completely agree :) | 11:20 |
| bencrisford_ | :) | 11:21 |
| bencrisford_ | persia: dont suppose you have a minute to review my bug-control application? | 11:23 |
| bencrisford_ | i sent it about a week ago, i have two responses - 1 indifferent and 1 positive | 11:23 |
| bencrisford_ | it'd be great if you could give me your opinion :) | 11:23 |
| persia | bencrisford_, My apologies, but I've not been following your work closely. Based solely on your application, I'd have to send an indifferent response, and I suspect it would be better to give you feedback directly, rather than through the application. | 11:28 |
| bencrisford_ | ok | 11:29 |
| persia | The work you've done is largely positive, and has benefited at least those bugs. | 11:29 |
| persia | A couple areas in which I think you could improve: | 11:29 |
| bencrisford_ | ive learnt alot since i submitted my application | 11:29 |
| persia | 1) Searching for more similar bugs when finding an issue | 11:29 |
| persia | for example: the bluez bug is related to a complex set of issues, and isn't hardware specific, etc. | 11:29 |
| bencrisford_ | k... | 11:30 |
| persia | There's already a bug about the gnome-user-share thing (being chased by Baptiste Mile-Mathias), to which I suspect that's a dupe, but being sure would require working with the submitter more. | 11:30 |
| persia | 2) being more careful about slang | 11:30 |
| bencrisford_ | :S | 11:31 |
| bencrisford_ | oh? | 11:31 |
| persia | In a few bugs, I see words with which I'm not overly familiar, although I can deduce the meaning in context. As many users (and developers) of Ubuntu only have English as a second, third, or even fourth language, it's especially important to be careful. | 11:31 |
| bencrisford_ | i am very careful about slang | 11:32 |
| bencrisford_ | but i often use complex words | 11:32 |
| bencrisford_ | such as wherefore, and furthermore | 11:32 |
| persia | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kompozer/+bug/374062/comments/1 was the one that caught my ele especially. | 11:33 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 374062 in kompozer "Can't edit while search dialog is open" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 11:33 |
| persia | s/ele/eye/ | 11:34 |
| bencrisford_ | ah | 11:34 |
| bencrisford_ | ill try not to use 'brill' again :) | 11:34 |
| bencrisford_ | but as i said; i learnt alot in the last week | 11:34 |
| persia | And lastly, trying to look for alternate workarounds. There's a heap of known bugs that aren't easily solved (like the Broadcomm chipset stuff). | 11:35 |
| persia | Many of these are documented in forums, etc. | 11:35 |
| persia | While often the developers can determine the cause of a bug from the hardware data, etc., if it can be narrowed by trying a couple things, that can help verify it's part of something else. | 11:36 |
| persia | (I guess this is part of #1 above, really). | 11:36 |
| bencrisford_ | yeah | 11:36 |
| persia | But like I said at the beginning, you're definitely making the bugs show progress. | 11:37 |
| persia | It might be just that the 5 bugs you selected are no longer your best, or similar. | 11:37 |
| persia | If you don't get enough positive responses in another week or two, I'd suggest following up to the thread with an update: "I've learned a lot more about bug triage in the past few weeks, and I'd like to submit these 5 (different) candidates to demonstrate that and renew my application" or some such. | 11:38 |
| balachmar | aah, I thought bencrisford_ had written a computer application to help with bugs... But it is an application to join bug-control :) | 11:39 |
| bencrisford_ | :) :P :) | 11:40 |
| bencrisford_ | persia: i have many more than 5 new ones at https://bugs.launchpad.net/bencrisford | 11:41 |
| bencrisford_ | if you want to see my latest work | 11:41 |
| bencrisford_ | its all there :) | 11:41 |
| persia | bencrisford_, Hrm. I'm not familiar enough with current approval processes for bug-control to know if I'm supposed to consider that, unless I've been working with you directly. | 11:42 |
| bencrisford_ | you have been :) all this morning :P | 11:43 |
| persia | You might ask someone more actively involved in bug-control. | 11:43 |
| bencrisford_ | ok | 11:43 |
| persia | Well, yeah, but no on bugs :) | 11:43 |
| persia | s/no/not/ | 11:43 |
| persia | (and I'm trying to do something else, so not paying enough attention, except when I was reading your application) | 11:44 |
| bencrisford_ | ok | 11:45 |
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| blueyed | Can somebody confirm bug 377395? Or help me to fix it? :) | 14:28 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 377395 in udev "Karmic: encrypted root device (RAID+cryptsetup+LVM) gets not found" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/377395 | 14:28 |
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| BUGabundo | hi | 16:27 |
| BUGabundo | I'm trying to get in touch with hew | 16:27 |
| BUGabundo | anybody seen him? | 16:28 |
| BUGabundo | trying to decide what to do with bug 342751 | 16:28 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 342751 in wammu "Wammu crash" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/342751 | 16:28 |
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| chrisccoulson | anyone know where /etc/init.d/alsasound comes from, and whether it's likely to be from a third party package? | 18:21 |
| BUGabundo | running dkpg -S... | 18:22 |
| chrisccoulson | it's not on my system | 18:22 |
| BUGabundo | taking a while on mine | 18:22 |
| BUGabundo | $ dpkg -S /etc/init.d/alsasound | 18:22 |
| BUGabundo | dpkg: /etc/init.d/alsasound not found. | 18:22 |
| chrisccoulson | someone reported a bug about a really slow boot, and their bootchart shows that the boot hangs on running S08alsasound, but that doesn't exist on my system | 18:23 |
| BUGabundo | yeah ask for a dpkg -L | 18:23 |
| BUGabundo | and see if you find the origen | 18:23 |
| bencrisford__ | i dont have alsa | 18:23 |
| bencrisford__ | i use pulseaudio | 18:23 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i think i'll do that | 18:23 |
| andol | Should these kinds of build errors be reported as bugs, or are there sufficient alarms in place for the right people to notice them anyway? | 18:27 |
| andol | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lablgl/1.04-2/ | 18:27 |
| charlie-tca | Doesn't exist in 8.04, either. and a package search doesn't find it using https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+search?text=alsasound | 18:27 |
| BUGabundo | the name is not strange to me though | 18:28 |
| * charlie-tca wonders what version of Ubuntu that is? | 18:28 | |
| charlie-tca | No, but if alsasound is 7.10, it won't show up anymore | 18:30 |
| chrisccoulson | charlie-tca, BUGabundo - thanks. i commented on the bug report to try and find out where the file comes from. | 18:30 |
| dtchen | chrisccoulson: / BUGabundo: alsasound is shipped in upstream alsa-driver | 18:43 |
| dtchen | chrisccoulson: / BUGabundo: we do not ship it in either Debian or Ubuntu | 18:44 |
| Vittorio | hi | 18:44 |
| dtchen | chrisccoulson: / BUGabundo: we have a separate script (Debian ships it in /usr/sbin/alsa; Ubuntu ships it in /sbin/alsa) | 18:44 |
| Vittorio | can any1help me fix my soundcard ? | 18:44 |
| dtchen | bencrisford__: you have alsa as well as pulseaudio. | 18:45 |
| dtchen | charlie-tca: ^ regarding upstream alsa-driver | 18:45 |
| Vittorio | yes | 18:45 |
| bencrisford__ | dtchen: yeah i said wrong thing | 18:45 |
| bencrisford__ | what i meant was | 18:45 |
| bencrisford__ | i use esound | 18:45 |
| bencrisford__ | :) | 18:45 |
| Vittorio | lol | 18:46 |
| Vittorio | my soundcard is dead | 18:46 |
| bencrisford__ | lol | 18:46 |
| Vittorio | i am searching for a solution over 3 days now | 18:46 |
| bencrisford__ | :( | 18:46 |
| charlie-tca | dtchen: but alsasound won't show up in package searches? | 18:46 |
| dtchen | Vittorio: this really isn't a support channel per se. please use #ubuntu or #ubuntu-audio-help | 18:46 |
| * bencrisford__ hugs vittorio | 18:46 | |
| dtchen | charlie-tca: it won't, because we don't install it. | 18:46 |
| charlie-tca | Thanks | 18:47 |
| dtchen | any bugs that reference alsasound need to be invalidated | 18:47 |
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| chrisccoulson | dtchen - thanks. so the user with the slow boot has probably installed the upstream alsa driver? | 19:14 |
| dtchen | chrisccoulson: yes, and forgotten to rm /etc/init.d/alsasound | 19:15 |
| dtchen | chrisccoulson: however, i have not read the bug report (which one? no backscroll here) | 19:15 |
| chrisccoulson | ah, 1 second | 19:16 |
| chrisccoulson | it's bug 376375 | 19:16 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 376375 in ubuntu "Ubuntu takes long to boot" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/376375 | 19:16 |
| chrisccoulson | you can't see S08alsasound on the graphical bootchart, but you can see it if you look in the tar file attached to the bug report | 19:16 |
| dtchen | hmm? it's in the graphical bootchart, too | 19:18 |
| chrisccoulson | i probably need to zoom in further ;) | 19:19 |
| dtchen | (& triaged) | 19:20 |
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| VilasBoas1 | dtchen: o meu ubuntu 9.04 não dá som podes me ajudar? | 19:49 |
| BUGabundo1 | VilasBoas1: english please | 19:50 |
| BUGabundo1 | dtchen: ping. can you help VilasBoas1 debug his audio prob? | 19:50 |
| dtchen | BUGabundo1: if there's an existing bug report, perhaps | 19:51 |
| VilasBoas1 | dtchen: Hy my ubuntu 9.04 i386 doesn't make sond can you help me? | 19:51 |
| BUGabundo1 | dtchen: still no bug.. I'll ask it | 19:51 |
| BUGabundo1 | VilasBoas1: please open a terminal, and run : ubuntu-bug alsa-base | 19:52 |
| BUGabundo1 | then paste here the bug report link, ok? | 19:52 |
| VilasBoas1 | dtchen: http://paste.ubuntu.com/174466/ | 19:57 |
| BUGabundo1 | VilasBoas1: the LP link | 19:57 |
| BUGabundo1 | not a pastebin | 19:58 |
| BUGabundo1 | ehehe | 19:58 |
| BUGabundo1 | I got a apport bug | 19:58 |
| BUGabundo1 | LOL | 19:58 |
| BUGabundo1 | IOError: [Errno 2] Ficheiro ou directoria inexistente: '/proc/asound/cards' | 19:58 |
| BUGabundo1 | I actually like this | 19:58 |
| BUGabundo1 | VilasBoas1: guess we need to do this the old way | 19:59 |
| dtchen | i'm guessing that's akin to "No such file or directory"? | 19:59 |
| BUGabundo1 | VilasBoas1: download http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh | 20:00 |
| dtchen | my .pt is nonexistent | 20:00 |
| BUGabundo1 | dtchen: yep | 20:00 |
| dtchen | sigh, i had better fix the apport hook | 20:00 |
| BUGabundo1 | eheh | 20:00 |
| VilasBoas1 | BUGabundo1: i can't find the lp link | 20:00 |
| BUGabundo1 | VilasBoas1: wait. you found another bug | 20:01 |
| BUGabundo1 | VilasBoas1: download http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh | 20:01 |
| VilasBoas1 | ĩ reported but i can't find the link | 20:01 |
| BUGabundo1 | then chmod it : $ chmod a+x alsa-info.sh | 20:01 |
| BUGabundo1 | VilasBoas1: it never run... it failed with that error | 20:01 |
| VilasBoas1 | BUGabundo1: o you want to run this script? [y/n] : read: 365: Illegal option -e | 20:08 |
| VilasBoas1 | ????????? | 20:08 |
| dtchen | VilasBoas1: you need to use bash | 20:08 |
| BUGabundo1 | VilasBoas1: after chmod, on a terminal run: | 20:09 |
| BUGabundo1 | . /alsa-info.sh | 20:09 |
| BUGabundo1 | ./alsa-info.sh | 20:09 |
| VilasBoas1 | Do you want to run this script? [y/n] : y | 20:09 |
| VilasBoas1 | cat: /proc/asound/version: No such file or directory | 20:09 |
| VilasBoas1 | grep: /proc/asound/cards: No such file or directory | 20:09 |
| VilasBoas1 | cat: /proc/asound/cards: No such file or directory | 20:09 |
| VilasBoas1 | cat: /proc/asound/modules: No such file or directory | 20:09 |
| dtchen | lovely. we'll do it manually, then. | 20:10 |
| BUGabundo1 | now I know why you have no sound | 20:10 |
| BUGabundo1 | eheh | 20:10 |
| dtchen | lspci -nv|grep -A1 040[13] | 20:10 |
| BUGabundo1 | VilasBoas1: for long outpus use pastebin | 20:10 |
| VilasBoas1 | BUGabundo1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/174471/ | 20:13 |
| BUGabundo1 | VilasBoas1: not me... dtchen | 20:13 |
| VilasBoas1 | ok | 20:13 |
| dtchen | err | 20:13 |
| BUGabundo1 | at least there's a link for the script | 20:13 |
| VilasBoas1 | dtchen: http://paste.ubuntu.com/174471/ can you please help me | 20:13 |
| dtchen | there are no sound modules at all | 20:13 |
| BUGabundo1 | http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=2d9715abd8bf76140715821ef3040414695ae66b | 20:13 |
| dtchen | sudo apt-get --reinstall install linux-image-$(uname -r) | 20:14 |
| dtchen | BUGabundo1: / VilasBoas1: this is more suited for #ubuntu or #ubuntu-audio-help | 20:14 |
| VilasBoas1 | dtchen: tanks | 20:15 |
| BUGabundo1 | yeah dtchen.... lets meet on #ubuntu-audio-help | 20:15 |
| VilasBoas | dtchen: sorry after reinstalling the linux generic my ATI grafic crached | 20:23 |
| VilasBoas | i will need to reinstall everything | 20:24 |
| VilasBoas | dtchen: thanks for your help ;) | 20:24 |
| dtchen | mmkay | 20:25 |
| BUGabundo1 | VilasBoas: go to #ubuntu-audio-help | 20:25 |
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| vocx | Anybody noticed bug 354995 | 23:00 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 354995 in brasero "Brasero Checksum Error" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/354995 | 23:00 |
| vocx | If I recall correctly the package was updated, but it throws those errors. I guess it doesn't provide much confidence when it errors. | 23:02 |
| YoBoY | hi | 23:20 |
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