[00:46] <wip> hi, is there any change in permission for polling hid device in jaunty?
[00:46] <wip> even with root i cannot poll any hid device with jaunty
[03:01] <wip> still trying to use my wacom with jaunty... xinput -list = "Wacom Graphire2 4x5"	id=12	[XExtensionKeyboard]
[03:01] <wip> [XExtensionKeyboard] that is not right...
[03:03] <wip> how to change Wacom from XExtensionKeyboard to XExtensionPointer?
[03:14]  * wip desesperate
[03:14] <wip> oups..
[04:12] <ebroder> Why did dh_pycentral start removing symlinked files on upgrades?
[04:13] <ebroder> It's causing problems for me with the upgrade process in the python-xen-3.3 package because the python-xen-3.3 modules go away before the prerm of xen-utils-3.3 is called, and xen-utils-3.3 needs those modules in place
[04:14] <ebroder> Wait...since xen-utils-3.3 depends on python-xen-3.3, shouldn't xen-utils prerm get called before python-xen's?
[04:15] <Amaranth> ebroder: for what?
[04:15] <ebroder> Huh?
[04:15] <ebroder> Oh - for stopping xend
[04:18] <ebroder> Shouldn't all of a package's dependencies still be fully installed when its prerm runs?
[04:22] <ebroder> Or are they only guaranteed to be unpacked?
[04:23] <StevenK> Hmmm. Check Debian Policy
[05:05] <ebroder> Yeah - it definitely seems like the prerm for python-xen-3.3 is being run before the prerm for xen-utils-3.3, in spite of the fact that xen-utils-3.3 depends on python-xen-3.3: http://paste.ubuntu.com/174036/
[05:05] <ebroder> That's incredibly irritating
[08:37] <MelisU> Hello, what is the exec key for the directory the file is in?  Like evince %f is for file .. but which key is the dir?
[08:40] <persia> MelisU, http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/ar01s06.html
[08:41] <MelisU> persia: Yeah I already found that, but which one is for the dir??
[08:41] <persia> I don't think there is one.  Best to use %f (or %F), and have the application sort it out.
[11:27] <geser> anyone around who could please give-back findlib? thanks
[11:43] <Hobbsee> geser: done
[12:46] <sladen> since the release, at every boot up, 'update-manager' is popping up with three open windows.
[15:45] <lamont> who knows d-i well?
[15:57] <persia> lamont, I've read a fair bit of the code, but I can't say I know it well.  What's the question?
[15:57] <lamont> well, it took me a minute to remember that the netboot initrd gets one -server... I want a netboot ubuntu-desktop...  so what do I need to abuse to fix that?
[15:58] <persia> Select the ubuntu-desktop task and dselect all the server tasks in tasksel when netbooting?
[15:59] <persia> You can preseed tasksel, but I don't understand the intricacies of that.
[16:01] <lamont> persia: that would be the specific question, I  fear
[16:02] <lamont> though I might have that figured out well enough now
[17:25] <calc> fsck on a 750gb ext3 usb drive takes a very long time
[17:29] <sebner> calc: ext4 ext4 ext4 \o/
[17:29] <ebroder> Does it actually help fsck time?
[17:30] <ion_> The ext3 performance improvements in 2.6.30 are nice, btw. Not that it affects fsck, though.
[17:30] <jdong> ebroder: yeah, as long as a significant part of the drive is unused ;-)
[17:31] <ebroder> That's like saying that my computer is really fast when I'm not running any programs :-P
[17:31] <jdong> indeed :)
[17:36] <d1b> ion_: what kind of a performance do they provide?
[17:36] <d1b> (increase)
[17:36] <sebner> ion_: I'd stick to ext4
[17:37] <ion_> d1b: http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_2_6_30#head-329ba44b44a7f58c98ae22b8f2730418cdd6630d
[17:38] <jdong> lol by "performance" you mean set data=writeback default? :P
[17:39] <ion_> jdong: Fixing the issues the change would otherwise have caused (as well as the ext4 issue), and *then* changing the mode.
[17:41] <jdong> well specifically what did they do to address the potential out-of-order hazards?
[17:41] <jdong> all I see is fsync-on-rename hacks and such
[17:41] <jdong> and GRR ath9k, screw you. please stop trying 	tx bitrate:	324.0 MBit/s MCS 28 40Mhz
[17:42] <d1b> btw any one know how to set the country code for wifi ?
[17:42] <jdong> d1b: iw reg set...
[17:42] <jdong> linuxwireless has more info on doing it
[17:43] <jdong> http://linuxwireless.org/en/developers/Regulatory/CRDA
[17:43] <d1b> it would be nice if a google turned that up ...
[17:43] <d1b> couldn't find it before
[17:43] <d1b>  / not in the iwconfig man page to try iw
[17:43] <jdong> yeah it's a bit unintuitive
[17:44] <jdong> and google has a lot of blind-leading-the-blind when it comes to this subject :(
[17:44] <d1b> + does it default to us ... it should be international
[17:44] <jdong> I'm not sure what it "defaults" per se to... I think udev rules are supposed to handle locality
[17:45] <d1b> jdong: what areas are available can't find it / the short names
[17:45] <d1b> other than us
[17:45] <calc> d1b: aiui it is supposed to ask the AP
[17:46]  * calc isn't sure how that works
[17:46] <d1b> calc: oh. thats fair enough but i know there is said network on channel 13.
[17:46] <d1b> can't see it.
[17:47] <jdong> http://wireless.kernel.org/en/developers/Regulatory
[17:48] <jdong> specifically, http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/linville/wireless-regdb.git;a=blob;f=db.txt;hb=HEAD
[17:51] <d1b> k
[21:11] <olmari> Would there be any possibility to have "server" as type-in selection in mini.iso installation? (is this correct channel to suggest)
[22:14] <wip> how to change this: "Wacom Graphire2 4x5 cursor"	id=10	[XExtensionKeyboard] to [XEntensionPointer]. my wacom is not a keyboard
[22:14] <wip> i saw today an update of xserver-xorg-input-synaptics but still no luck with my wacom
[22:16] <ion_> wip: When you report the bug, please share the link, i’ll want to subscribe.
[22:17] <wip> ion_: will do but i need to be sure it's not just me
[22:17] <ion_> It might be related to the HAL→udev/DeviceKit migration, but dunno really.
[22:17] <ion_> Or perhaps it’s a bug in the evdev Xorg driver.
[22:17] <wip> ion_: yes i think it's because of the new way of talking to the device (HAL)
[23:00] <ripps> Can someone help me with a debuild script of mine, I'm trying to get debuild to ignore several debian.* backup directories that keep for backports. I already use "debuild -i\.git|.hg|.svn|.bzr/" to ignore various vcs directories
[23:47] <sladen> ripps: can't you just append them to the .-i list
[23:47] <olmari> Would there be any possibility to have "server" as type-in selection in mini.iso installation? (is this correct channel to suggest)
[23:58] <Turl1> hi
[23:59] <Turl1> how can I copy a script in debian/scripts/foo to usr/bin ?