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BUGabundofta_: but it is fun isn't it?01:18
fta_?01:18
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Nafalloaaaw01:18
NafalloI didn't get to pull the tail :-/01:18
BUGabundofta: the OOo splash bug01:19
ftai guess it's a picture01:19
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micahgdoes anyone know the upstream bugs channel for mozilla?05:38
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micahgwe're under 600 new bugs!07:47
sebnerasac: ping, why does the app font of ff3.5 is so ugly?11:32
gnomefreakdist-upgrade11:37
gnomefreakoh damn ignore that11:38
gnomefreakgfaim (recipes app) is only in french :(  is it really that hard to add other langs.11:48
ftagfaim is french = "j'ai faim" so i'm not surprised ;)11:50
ftai don't complain where 99.9% of apps are in english only ;)11:51
gnomefreakfta: thats a good point :) i liked anymeal but that was in my kde days11:52
gnomefreakhonestly i think packaging an app to use maybe top ten langs. or for any/all langs. would be best way to go but im guessing that is not possible all the time11:54
gnomefreaksystem default would be great way to do it11:54
gnomefreakok be back soonish12:08
asacsebner: not sure ... mybe you are using msttcorefonts?14:18
asacthose are usually ugly14:18
sebnerasac: nah, not installed. and if they were installed also firefox3.0 should look ugly what's not the case14:19
ftanope, ff3.5+ has an improved font rendering system14:20
sebnerfta: improved? ahahaha *lol*14:21
ftawfm14:21
sebnerfta: asac : compare http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotstartseitevon.png and http://img232.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotwfmwikipediat.png14:25
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gnomefreakanyone one know how much 2000 euros is in #s?14:45
Nafallognomefreak: google14:49
gnomefreakNafallo: yeah i know i was hoping someone knew but i will google in a little while14:50
Nafallonot even sure what #s means so...14:50
ftapounds?14:50
fta2000 Euros = 1 777.45531 British pounds14:51
fta(google)14:51
fta2000 Euros = 2 694.8 US$14:51
gnomefreakopps it should have been $s14:58
gnomefreak2694.80 $ that is a nice laptop14:59
gnomefreakasac: fta thanks for cleaning up mailing list junk15:25
* asac runs dist-upgrade to karmic on main desktop16:03
gnomefreakasac: use the 2.6.28 kerrnel at least i have to or i wont get X to work also terminal wont stay open16:53
gnomefreakand for some reason update-manager wont use -d but i wanted to talk to mvo about it but i havent run into him this past week16:54
BUGabundognomefreak: to get to KK ?16:55
gnomefreakBUGabundo: yes16:55
BUGabundoworked for me, and a lot of other +1s16:55
gnomefreak+1?16:55
BUGabundothe only reason some ppl are still using .28 is for the wifi cards16:56
BUGabundognomefreak: #ubuntu+1 , as in Karmic testers16:56
gnomefreakah16:56
BUGabundoheeh16:56
BUGabundohumm alpha1 is a bit late to sed sources and distupgrade...16:56
BUGabundodo you have any logs from $ do-release-upgrade on cli?16:57
BUGabundoUM aint much verbose16:57
BUGabundobut d-r-u -d is16:57
gnomefreakhavent looked yet16:57
BUGabundohaven't seem mvo either16:57
BUGabundoguess he has been busy16:58
BUGabundotalk to you latter... need to fill up the company car gas tank..16:58
BUGabundobe back in a while.... expecting long line of drivers at gas pump16:58
sebnerasac: karmic \o/ stable stable stable (ext4 also of course (also thanks to 30er kernel))16:59
BUGabundognomefreak: back18:08
* gnomefreak getting ready to leave :)18:09
BUGabundoehehehe18:09
gnomefreakok folder is 4.1 gigs after compressing it it is now 5.9 gigs  << what the fuck is that about18:10
gnomefreakand im using tar.gz which should compress it not make it bigger18:11
BUGabundodepends on what is inside18:11
BUGabundobut very strange to grow so much18:12
gnomefreakBUGabundo: it should not bbe 1+ gigs bigger than folder18:12
BUGabundotry to put a tar inside and compress it18:12
gnomefreakno matter what it should be around the same size as folder18:12
gnomefreakBUGabundo: what do you mean put a tar inside?18:12
BUGabundoexaclty18:13
BUGabundoit shouldn't grow so much18:13
BUGabundoeven if the content aint going to compress18:13
BUGabundoit should be close to the folder18:13
gnomefreakright  maybe ill just burn the folder than18:13
gnomefreakTar archive (gzip-compressed) (application/x-compressed-tar)18:14
gnomefreak5.9 GB (6302618406 bytes)18:14
gnomefreakfolder (inode/directory)18:14
gnomefreak1,521 items, totalling 4.1 GB18:14
BUGabundohehe18:15
BUGabundowhat is the FS?18:15
gnomefreakext218:15
gnomefreakopps18:15
gnomefreakext318:15
BUGabundovery strange18:16
BUGabundoeither bug, or bad FS18:16
BUGabundoI would do a fsck on it18:16
gnomefreakBUGabundo: im guessing bug in tar since everything else works ok18:16
gnomefreakBUGabundo: never ran one myself18:16
BUGabundoahh18:17
BUGabundoI run one at least every two weeks18:17
gnomefreakwhat command?18:17
BUGabundoI get a few crashes or power failures, forced powerdowns18:17
BUGabundobetter reboot and use the recovery console18:17
gnomefreakim looking at the --help and it doesnt really give me much18:17
BUGabundoit has an menu option for fsck18:17
BUGabundoother then that18:17
BUGabundounmount the partition or remount as RO (for / )18:18
BUGabundoand $ fsck.ext3 -fvD /dev/sdX18:18
BUGabundognomefreak: I want help for fsck.ext318:18
gnomefreakmaybe fsck -P /18:19
BUGabundowhere is a nice tip: man tune2fs18:19
BUGabundo$ tune2fs -O large_file,dir_index,has_journal /dev/sdXx18:20
BUGabundoit can be run one a mounted FS18:21
BUGabundoit will make Nautilus very fast18:21
gnomefreakill have to look at it when i get home or tomorrow18:21
* asac reboots into karmic ;)18:32
Nafallobye asac18:32
BUGabundofar well asac18:32
BUGabundoeheh18:33
BUGabundohe will be the only person to not make it18:33
BUGabundoROFL18:33
asacworks good. nice18:38
BUGabundo6 min reboot?18:39
BUGabundothat's *slowwwwwww* asac18:39
asaci did some basic testing ;)18:39
BUGabundoand left us hanging ?18:39
BUGabundobad man18:40
asaclol18:40
asacdidnt know that you would feel that much with me ;)18:40
asaci guess desktop effects will never work with my card ;)18:42
asacwaiting for years ... no change18:42
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micahgIf a flash problem is solved by a driver update, how should that be flagged?19:31
BUGabundo1how can those be related?19:33
dtchenBUGabundo1: depends on the symptom19:33
BUGabundo1I don't see a relation without further info19:33
dtchenmicahg: right, need a bug report # at least19:34
micahgbug 36693719:35
ubottuLaunchpad bug 366937 in firefox-3.0 "firefox segmentation fault in kde4.2 jaunty on maximizing flash video" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/36693719:35
dtchenit should be triaged to affect xserver-xorg-video-intel19:36
dtchenit definitely is not a firefox* bug19:36
dtchen(or a Flash bug for that matter)19:36
micahgok, so package changes and status changes?19:37
dtchenyes, -> xserver-xorg-video-intel and -> triaged19:37
micahgok19:38
micahgwell I still can't set triage19:38
dtcheni'll set it.19:38
micahgso should I change package and someone else can set triage19:38
micahgor someone else do both in one shot?19:38
dtchen^19:38
micahgthanks19:38
dtchennp19:39
micahgasac was saying something about getting me bug control status19:39
BUGabundo1micahg: I think you have to apply for it19:40
stefanlsdasac: finally got google gears into REVU. would appreciate a look over if you have some time20:22
stefanlsdBUGabundo1: still only 3.0x :|20:22
BUGabundo1hey stefanlsd...u remmembered20:22
BUGabundo1stefanlsd: using 3.6a1 here20:23
stefanlsdBUGabundo1: yeah. upstream says it will work before new FF is released20:23
nhandlerI was looking at updating mozilla-stumbleupon. However, it ftbfs. It has http://paste.ubuntu.com/173835/ in debian/rules, and uncommenting that allows it to build. Could someone help me understand what exactly chrome/stumbleupon.jar file is being used for and if it is needed?20:30
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ftahttps://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-karmic-multiarch-support  :)21:42
BUGabundo1hehe21:44
micahgcan someone check bug 297837 on x86?21:48
ubottuLaunchpad bug 297837 in firefox-3.0 "bad gopher support of abstracts with case sensitive file names" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29783721:48
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micahgwhat to do with bug 29783722:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 297837 in firefox-3.0 "bad gopher support of abstracts with case sensitive file names" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29783722:12
micahgupstream says gopher support is being removed22:13
BUGabundo1without further reading, WontFix?22:14
micahgwell22:14
micahgit seems to actually be a debate upstream22:14
micahgI was hoping someone authoratative can jump in22:15
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ftalol, gopher. the last time i used it was.. what.. 1994?23:12
micahgfta: apparently, it's making a comeback23:18
micahgdo you know anything about it being removed23:18
micahgif it's authoratative or not23:18
micahgand if we should just mark the bug won't fix23:18
ftano idea23:19
micahgok23:19
micahgI guess I'll jsut monitor the upstream status23:19
ftafor me, gopher is long dead. the web killed it in the mid-90s23:19
BUGabundo1eheh23:27
ftadtchen, the sound in sauerbraten is very good and stable, i don't get why it's so bad in openarena23:43
BUGabundo1'cause it uses alsa ?23:43
ftaboth are23:45
ftaEstimated repository size: 25.6 GiB (100.00%) of 20.0 GiB23:48
ftawtf23:48
BUGabundo1LOL23:48
ftaoh, now i understand, one full build of chromium is worth 8.1GB (3 arches x 4 dists)23:49
ftaso if there are more than 2 builds in the PPA, it's full23:50
ftabad23:50
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gnomefreakok i have a few minutes to find out why compressing a file makes it >1 gig more than file size23:54
micahgwhat format?23:55
micahggnomefreak:23:55
micahg^^23:55
gnomefreaktar.gz23:55
micahgyou're compressing the tarball?23:55
BUGabundo1gnomefreak: I'm out of ideas23:55
gnomefreakfile size is 4.1gig tart.gz is 5.9gig23:55
BUGabundo1try to make a new from dd /dev/zero23:55
micahgwhat's the original format?23:55
gnomefreaktar.gz even23:56
gnomefreakmicahg: a normal file23:56
micahgdefine normal?23:56
gnomefreaks/file/folder23:56
micahggraphic, movie, text?23:56
BUGabundo1eheh what's normal?23:56
* BUGabundo1 there is no normal. the _normality_ is the anormal23:56
gnomefreakmicahg: everything some music some text some pics. its a back up folder23:56
micahgah, so depending on the algorithm, you might get a higher size from pictures23:57
micahgyou can try bzip223:57
micahgtar -cjvf23:57
gnomefreakregaurdless of folder a tar should never be bigger in size than folder at least not over a gig23:57
micahgnot true23:57
micahgit's not the tar23:57
micahgit's the gxz23:57
gnomefreakmicahg: the normal doics will compress regaurdless of music or pics23:57
gnomefreaknothing should get bigger23:58
ftagnomefreak, just make sure you're not tarring the tar itself ;)23:58
micahggraphics will get bigger with gz sometimes23:58
gnomefreakfta: im not i made sure of that :)23:58
BUGabundo1micahg: by a Giga?23:58
gnomefreakmicahg: not close to a gig23:58
micahgif there are enough23:58
ftagnomefreak, pastebin what you did23:59
gnomefreakmicahg: i didnt add any pics from last backup nor music and it was 4.4 gig tar.gz i replaced some of my . dirs23:59
gnomefreakfta: how? i tared it up earlier23:59

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