[01:18] fta_: but it is fun isn't it? [01:18] ? === fta_ is now known as fta [01:18] aaaw [01:18] I didn't get to pull the tail :-/ [01:19] fta: the OOo splash bug [01:19] i guess it's a picture === micahg1 is now known as micahg [05:38] does anyone know the upstream bugs channel for mozilla? === micahg1 is now known as micahg [07:47] we're under 600 new bugs! [11:32] asac: ping, why does the app font of ff3.5 is so ugly? [11:37] dist-upgrade [11:38] oh damn ignore that [11:48] gfaim (recipes app) is only in french :( is it really that hard to add other langs. [11:50] gfaim is french = "j'ai faim" so i'm not surprised ;) [11:51] i don't complain where 99.9% of apps are in english only ;) [11:52] fta: thats a good point :) i liked anymeal but that was in my kde days [11:54] honestly i think packaging an app to use maybe top ten langs. or for any/all langs. would be best way to go but im guessing that is not possible all the time [11:54] system default would be great way to do it [12:08] ok be back soonish [14:18] sebner: not sure ... mybe you are using msttcorefonts? [14:18] those are usually ugly [14:19] asac: nah, not installed. and if they were installed also firefox3.0 should look ugly what's not the case [14:20] nope, ff3.5+ has an improved font rendering system [14:21] fta: improved? ahahaha *lol* [14:21] wfm [14:25] fta: asac : compare http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotstartseitevon.png and http://img232.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotwfmwikipediat.png === ejat is now known as e-jat [14:45] anyone one know how much 2000 euros is in #s? [14:49] gnomefreak: google [14:50] Nafallo: yeah i know i was hoping someone knew but i will google in a little while [14:50] not even sure what #s means so... [14:50] pounds? [14:51] 2000 Euros = 1 777.45531 British pounds [14:51] (google) [14:51] 2000 Euros = 2 694.8 US$ [14:58] opps it should have been $s [14:59] 2694.80 $ that is a nice laptop [15:25] asac: fta thanks for cleaning up mailing list junk [16:03] * asac runs dist-upgrade to karmic on main desktop [16:53] asac: use the 2.6.28 kerrnel at least i have to or i wont get X to work also terminal wont stay open [16:54] and for some reason update-manager wont use -d but i wanted to talk to mvo about it but i havent run into him this past week [16:55] gnomefreak: to get to KK ? [16:55] BUGabundo: yes [16:55] worked for me, and a lot of other +1s [16:55] +1? [16:56] the only reason some ppl are still using .28 is for the wifi cards [16:56] gnomefreak: #ubuntu+1 , as in Karmic testers [16:56] ah [16:56] heeh [16:56] humm alpha1 is a bit late to sed sources and distupgrade... [16:57] do you have any logs from $ do-release-upgrade on cli? [16:57] UM aint much verbose [16:57] but d-r-u -d is [16:57] havent looked yet [16:57] haven't seem mvo either [16:58] guess he has been busy [16:58] talk to you latter... need to fill up the company car gas tank.. [16:58] be back in a while.... expecting long line of drivers at gas pump [16:59] asac: karmic \o/ stable stable stable (ext4 also of course (also thanks to 30er kernel)) [18:08] gnomefreak: back [18:09] * gnomefreak getting ready to leave :) [18:09] ehehehe [18:10] ok folder is 4.1 gigs after compressing it it is now 5.9 gigs << what the fuck is that about [18:11] and im using tar.gz which should compress it not make it bigger [18:11] depends on what is inside [18:12] but very strange to grow so much [18:12] BUGabundo: it should not bbe 1+ gigs bigger than folder [18:12] try to put a tar inside and compress it [18:12] no matter what it should be around the same size as folder [18:12] BUGabundo: what do you mean put a tar inside? [18:13] exaclty [18:13] it shouldn't grow so much [18:13] even if the content aint going to compress [18:13] it should be close to the folder [18:13] right maybe ill just burn the folder than [18:14] Tar archive (gzip-compressed) (application/x-compressed-tar) [18:14] 5.9 GB (6302618406 bytes) [18:14] folder (inode/directory) [18:14] 1,521 items, totalling 4.1 GB [18:15] hehe [18:15] what is the FS? [18:15] ext2 [18:15] opps [18:15] ext3 [18:16] very strange [18:16] either bug, or bad FS [18:16] I would do a fsck on it [18:16] BUGabundo: im guessing bug in tar since everything else works ok [18:16] BUGabundo: never ran one myself [18:17] ahh [18:17] I run one at least every two weeks [18:17] what command? [18:17] I get a few crashes or power failures, forced powerdowns [18:17] better reboot and use the recovery console [18:17] im looking at the --help and it doesnt really give me much [18:17] it has an menu option for fsck [18:17] other then that [18:18] unmount the partition or remount as RO (for / ) [18:18] and $ fsck.ext3 -fvD /dev/sdX [18:18] gnomefreak: I want help for fsck.ext3 [18:19] maybe fsck -P / [18:19] where is a nice tip: man tune2fs [18:20] $ tune2fs -O large_file,dir_index,has_journal /dev/sdXx [18:21] it can be run one a mounted FS [18:21] it will make Nautilus very fast [18:21] ill have to look at it when i get home or tomorrow [18:32] * asac reboots into karmic ;) [18:32] bye asac [18:32] far well asac [18:33] eheh [18:33] he will be the only person to not make it [18:33] ROFL [18:38] works good. nice [18:39] 6 min reboot? [18:39] that's *slowwwwwww* asac [18:39] i did some basic testing ;) [18:39] and left us hanging ? [18:40] bad man [18:40] lol [18:40] didnt know that you would feel that much with me ;) [18:42] i guess desktop effects will never work with my card ;) [18:42] waiting for years ... no change === micahg1 is now known as micahg [19:31] If a flash problem is solved by a driver update, how should that be flagged? [19:33] how can those be related? [19:33] BUGabundo1: depends on the symptom [19:33] I don't see a relation without further info [19:34] micahg: right, need a bug report # at least [19:35] bug 366937 [19:35] Launchpad bug 366937 in firefox-3.0 "firefox segmentation fault in kde4.2 jaunty on maximizing flash video" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/366937 [19:36] it should be triaged to affect xserver-xorg-video-intel [19:36] it definitely is not a firefox* bug [19:36] (or a Flash bug for that matter) [19:37] ok, so package changes and status changes? [19:37] yes, -> xserver-xorg-video-intel and -> triaged [19:38] ok [19:38] well I still can't set triage [19:38] i'll set it. [19:38] so should I change package and someone else can set triage [19:38] or someone else do both in one shot? [19:38] ^ [19:38] thanks [19:39] np [19:39] asac was saying something about getting me bug control status [19:40] micahg: I think you have to apply for it [20:22] asac: finally got google gears into REVU. would appreciate a look over if you have some time [20:22] BUGabundo1: still only 3.0x :| [20:22] hey stefanlsd...u remmembered [20:23] stefanlsd: using 3.6a1 here [20:23] BUGabundo1: yeah. upstream says it will work before new FF is released [20:30] I was looking at updating mozilla-stumbleupon. However, it ftbfs. It has http://paste.ubuntu.com/173835/ in debian/rules, and uncommenting that allows it to build. Could someone help me understand what exactly chrome/stumbleupon.jar file is being used for and if it is needed? === micahg1 is now known as micahg [21:42] https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-karmic-multiarch-support :) [21:44] hehe [21:48] can someone check bug 297837 on x86? [21:48] Launchpad bug 297837 in firefox-3.0 "bad gopher support of abstracts with case sensitive file names" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/297837 === micahg1 is now known as micahg [22:12] what to do with bug 297837 [22:12] Launchpad bug 297837 in firefox-3.0 "bad gopher support of abstracts with case sensitive file names" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/297837 [22:13] upstream says gopher support is being removed [22:14] without further reading, WontFix? [22:14] well [22:14] it seems to actually be a debate upstream [22:15] I was hoping someone authoratative can jump in === micahg1 is now known as micahg === BUGabundo1 is now known as BUGabundo [23:12] lol, gopher. the last time i used it was.. what.. 1994? [23:18] fta: apparently, it's making a comeback [23:18] do you know anything about it being removed [23:18] if it's authoratative or not [23:18] and if we should just mark the bug won't fix [23:19] no idea [23:19] ok [23:19] I guess I'll jsut monitor the upstream status [23:19] for me, gopher is long dead. the web killed it in the mid-90s [23:27] eheh [23:43] dtchen, the sound in sauerbraten is very good and stable, i don't get why it's so bad in openarena [23:43] 'cause it uses alsa ? [23:45] both are [23:48] Estimated repository size: 25.6 GiB (100.00%) of 20.0 GiB [23:48] wtf [23:48] LOL [23:49] oh, now i understand, one full build of chromium is worth 8.1GB (3 arches x 4 dists) [23:50] so if there are more than 2 builds in the PPA, it's full [23:50] bad === micahg1 is now known as micahg [23:54] ok i have a few minutes to find out why compressing a file makes it >1 gig more than file size [23:55] what format? [23:55] gnomefreak: [23:55] ^^ [23:55] tar.gz [23:55] you're compressing the tarball? [23:55] gnomefreak: I'm out of ideas [23:55] file size is 4.1gig tart.gz is 5.9gig [23:55] try to make a new from dd /dev/zero [23:55] what's the original format? [23:56] tar.gz even [23:56] micahg: a normal file [23:56] define normal? [23:56] s/file/folder [23:56] graphic, movie, text? [23:56] eheh what's normal? [23:56] * BUGabundo1 there is no normal. the _normality_ is the anormal [23:56] micahg: everything some music some text some pics. its a back up folder [23:57] ah, so depending on the algorithm, you might get a higher size from pictures [23:57] you can try bzip2 [23:57] tar -cjvf [23:57] regaurdless of folder a tar should never be bigger in size than folder at least not over a gig [23:57] not true [23:57] it's not the tar [23:57] it's the gxz [23:57] micahg: the normal doics will compress regaurdless of music or pics [23:58] nothing should get bigger [23:58] gnomefreak, just make sure you're not tarring the tar itself ;) [23:58] graphics will get bigger with gz sometimes [23:58] fta: im not i made sure of that :) [23:58] micahg: by a Giga? [23:58] micahg: not close to a gig [23:58] if there are enough [23:59] gnomefreak, pastebin what you did [23:59] micahg: i didnt add any pics from last backup nor music and it was 4.4 gig tar.gz i replaced some of my . dirs [23:59] fta: how? i tared it up earlier