[01:18] <BUGabundo> fta_: but it is fun isn't it?
[01:18] <fta_> ?
[01:18] <Nafallo> aaaw
[01:18] <Nafallo> I didn't get to pull the tail :-/
[01:19] <BUGabundo> fta: the OOo splash bug
[01:19] <fta> i guess it's a picture
[05:38] <micahg> does anyone know the upstream bugs channel for mozilla?
[07:47] <micahg> we're under 600 new bugs!
[11:32] <sebner> asac: ping, why does the app font of ff3.5 is so ugly?
[11:37] <gnomefreak> dist-upgrade
[11:38] <gnomefreak> oh damn ignore that
[11:48] <gnomefreak> gfaim (recipes app) is only in french :(  is it really that hard to add other langs.
[11:50] <fta> gfaim is french = "j'ai faim" so i'm not surprised ;)
[11:51] <fta> i don't complain where 99.9% of apps are in english only ;)
[11:52] <gnomefreak> fta: thats a good point :) i liked anymeal but that was in my kde days
[11:54] <gnomefreak> honestly i think packaging an app to use maybe top ten langs. or for any/all langs. would be best way to go but im guessing that is not possible all the time
[11:54] <gnomefreak> system default would be great way to do it
[12:08] <gnomefreak> ok be back soonish
[14:18] <asac> sebner: not sure ... mybe you are using msttcorefonts?
[14:18] <asac> those are usually ugly
[14:19] <sebner> asac: nah, not installed. and if they were installed also firefox3.0 should look ugly what's not the case
[14:20] <fta> nope, ff3.5+ has an improved font rendering system
[14:21] <sebner> fta: improved? ahahaha *lol*
[14:21] <fta> wfm
[14:25] <sebner> fta: asac : compare http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotstartseitevon.png and http://img232.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotwfmwikipediat.png
[14:45] <gnomefreak> anyone one know how much 2000 euros is in #s?
[14:49] <Nafallo> gnomefreak: google
[14:50] <gnomefreak> Nafallo: yeah i know i was hoping someone knew but i will google in a little while
[14:50] <Nafallo> not even sure what #s means so...
[14:50] <fta> pounds?
[14:51] <fta> 2000 Euros = 1 777.45531 British pounds
[14:51] <fta> (google)
[14:51] <fta> 2000 Euros = 2 694.8 US$
[14:58] <gnomefreak> opps it should have been $s
[14:59] <gnomefreak> 2694.80 $ that is a nice laptop
[15:25] <gnomefreak> asac: fta thanks for cleaning up mailing list junk
[16:03]  * asac runs dist-upgrade to karmic on main desktop
[16:53] <gnomefreak> asac: use the 2.6.28 kerrnel at least i have to or i wont get X to work also terminal wont stay open
[16:54] <gnomefreak> and for some reason update-manager wont use -d but i wanted to talk to mvo about it but i havent run into him this past week
[16:55] <BUGabundo> gnomefreak: to get to KK ?
[16:55] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: yes
[16:55] <BUGabundo> worked for me, and a lot of other +1s
[16:55] <gnomefreak> +1?
[16:56] <BUGabundo> the only reason some ppl are still using .28 is for the wifi cards
[16:56] <BUGabundo> gnomefreak: #ubuntu+1 , as in Karmic testers
[16:56] <gnomefreak> ah
[16:56] <BUGabundo> heeh
[16:56] <BUGabundo> humm alpha1 is a bit late to sed sources and distupgrade...
[16:57] <BUGabundo> do you have any logs from $ do-release-upgrade on cli?
[16:57] <BUGabundo> UM aint much verbose
[16:57] <BUGabundo> but d-r-u -d is
[16:57] <gnomefreak> havent looked yet
[16:57] <BUGabundo> haven't seem mvo either
[16:58] <BUGabundo> guess he has been busy
[16:58] <BUGabundo> talk to you latter... need to fill up the company car gas tank..
[16:58] <BUGabundo> be back in a while.... expecting long line of drivers at gas pump
[16:59] <sebner> asac: karmic \o/ stable stable stable (ext4 also of course (also thanks to 30er kernel))
[18:08] <BUGabundo> gnomefreak: back
[18:09]  * gnomefreak getting ready to leave :)
[18:09] <BUGabundo> ehehehe
[18:10] <gnomefreak> ok folder is 4.1 gigs after compressing it it is now 5.9 gigs  << what the fuck is that about
[18:11] <gnomefreak> and im using tar.gz which should compress it not make it bigger
[18:11] <BUGabundo> depends on what is inside
[18:12] <BUGabundo> but very strange to grow so much
[18:12] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: it should not bbe 1+ gigs bigger than folder
[18:12] <BUGabundo> try to put a tar inside and compress it
[18:12] <gnomefreak> no matter what it should be around the same size as folder
[18:12] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: what do you mean put a tar inside?
[18:13] <BUGabundo> exaclty
[18:13] <BUGabundo> it shouldn't grow so much
[18:13] <BUGabundo> even if the content aint going to compress
[18:13] <BUGabundo> it should be close to the folder
[18:13] <gnomefreak> right  maybe ill just burn the folder than
[18:14] <gnomefreak> Tar archive (gzip-compressed) (application/x-compressed-tar)
[18:14] <gnomefreak> 5.9 GB (6302618406 bytes)
[18:14] <gnomefreak> folder (inode/directory)
[18:14] <gnomefreak> 1,521 items, totalling 4.1 GB
[18:15] <BUGabundo> hehe
[18:15] <BUGabundo> what is the FS?
[18:15] <gnomefreak> ext2
[18:15] <gnomefreak> opps
[18:15] <gnomefreak> ext3
[18:16] <BUGabundo> very strange
[18:16] <BUGabundo> either bug, or bad FS
[18:16] <BUGabundo> I would do a fsck on it
[18:16] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: im guessing bug in tar since everything else works ok
[18:16] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: never ran one myself
[18:17] <BUGabundo> ahh
[18:17] <BUGabundo> I run one at least every two weeks
[18:17] <gnomefreak> what command?
[18:17] <BUGabundo> I get a few crashes or power failures, forced powerdowns
[18:17] <BUGabundo> better reboot and use the recovery console
[18:17] <gnomefreak> im looking at the --help and it doesnt really give me much
[18:17] <BUGabundo> it has an menu option for fsck
[18:17] <BUGabundo> other then that
[18:18] <BUGabundo> unmount the partition or remount as RO (for / )
[18:18] <BUGabundo> and $ fsck.ext3 -fvD /dev/sdX
[18:18] <BUGabundo> gnomefreak: I want help for fsck.ext3
[18:19] <gnomefreak> maybe fsck -P /
[18:19] <BUGabundo> where is a nice tip: man tune2fs
[18:20] <BUGabundo> $ tune2fs -O large_file,dir_index,has_journal /dev/sdXx
[18:21] <BUGabundo> it can be run one a mounted FS
[18:21] <BUGabundo> it will make Nautilus very fast
[18:21] <gnomefreak> ill have to look at it when i get home or tomorrow
[18:32]  * asac reboots into karmic ;)
[18:32] <Nafallo> bye asac
[18:32] <BUGabundo> far well asac
[18:33] <BUGabundo> eheh
[18:33] <BUGabundo> he will be the only person to not make it
[18:33] <BUGabundo> ROFL
[18:38] <asac> works good. nice
[18:39] <BUGabundo> 6 min reboot?
[18:39] <BUGabundo> that's *slowwwwwww* asac
[18:39] <asac> i did some basic testing ;)
[18:39] <BUGabundo> and left us hanging ?
[18:40] <BUGabundo> bad man
[18:40] <asac> lol
[18:40] <asac> didnt know that you would feel that much with me ;)
[18:42] <asac> i guess desktop effects will never work with my card ;)
[18:42] <asac> waiting for years ... no change
[19:31] <micahg> If a flash problem is solved by a driver update, how should that be flagged?
[19:33] <BUGabundo1> how can those be related?
[19:33] <dtchen> BUGabundo1: depends on the symptom
[19:33] <BUGabundo1> I don't see a relation without further info
[19:34] <dtchen> micahg: right, need a bug report # at least
[19:35] <micahg> bug 366937
[19:36] <dtchen> it should be triaged to affect xserver-xorg-video-intel
[19:36] <dtchen> it definitely is not a firefox* bug
[19:36] <dtchen> (or a Flash bug for that matter)
[19:37] <micahg> ok, so package changes and status changes?
[19:37] <dtchen> yes, -> xserver-xorg-video-intel and -> triaged
[19:38] <micahg> ok
[19:38] <micahg> well I still can't set triage
[19:38] <dtchen> i'll set it.
[19:38] <micahg> so should I change package and someone else can set triage
[19:38] <micahg> or someone else do both in one shot?
[19:38] <dtchen> ^
[19:38] <micahg> thanks
[19:39] <dtchen> np
[19:39] <micahg> asac was saying something about getting me bug control status
[19:40] <BUGabundo1> micahg: I think you have to apply for it
[20:22] <stefanlsd> asac: finally got google gears into REVU. would appreciate a look over if you have some time
[20:22] <stefanlsd> BUGabundo1: still only 3.0x :|
[20:22] <BUGabundo1> hey stefanlsd...u remmembered
[20:23] <BUGabundo1> stefanlsd: using 3.6a1 here
[20:23] <stefanlsd> BUGabundo1: yeah. upstream says it will work before new FF is released
[20:30] <nhandler> I was looking at updating mozilla-stumbleupon. However, it ftbfs. It has http://paste.ubuntu.com/173835/ in debian/rules, and uncommenting that allows it to build. Could someone help me understand what exactly chrome/stumbleupon.jar file is being used for and if it is needed?
[21:42] <fta> https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-karmic-multiarch-support  :)
[21:44] <BUGabundo1> hehe
[21:48] <micahg> can someone check bug 297837 on x86?
[22:12] <micahg> what to do with bug 297837
[22:13] <micahg> upstream says gopher support is being removed
[22:14] <BUGabundo1> without further reading, WontFix?
[22:14] <micahg> well
[22:14] <micahg> it seems to actually be a debate upstream
[22:15] <micahg> I was hoping someone authoratative can jump in
[23:12] <fta> lol, gopher. the last time i used it was.. what.. 1994?
[23:18] <micahg> fta: apparently, it's making a comeback
[23:18] <micahg> do you know anything about it being removed
[23:18] <micahg> if it's authoratative or not
[23:18] <micahg> and if we should just mark the bug won't fix
[23:19] <fta> no idea
[23:19] <micahg> ok
[23:19] <micahg> I guess I'll jsut monitor the upstream status
[23:19] <fta> for me, gopher is long dead. the web killed it in the mid-90s
[23:27] <BUGabundo1> eheh
[23:43] <fta> dtchen, the sound in sauerbraten is very good and stable, i don't get why it's so bad in openarena
[23:43] <BUGabundo1> 'cause it uses alsa ?
[23:45] <fta> both are
[23:48] <fta> Estimated repository size: 25.6 GiB (100.00%) of 20.0 GiB
[23:48] <fta> wtf
[23:48] <BUGabundo1> LOL
[23:49] <fta> oh, now i understand, one full build of chromium is worth 8.1GB (3 arches x 4 dists)
[23:50] <fta> so if there are more than 2 builds in the PPA, it's full
[23:50] <fta> bad
[23:54] <gnomefreak> ok i have a few minutes to find out why compressing a file makes it >1 gig more than file size
[23:55] <micahg> what format?
[23:55] <micahg> gnomefreak:
[23:55] <micahg> ^^
[23:55] <gnomefreak> tar.gz
[23:55] <micahg> you're compressing the tarball?
[23:55] <BUGabundo1> gnomefreak: I'm out of ideas
[23:55] <gnomefreak> file size is 4.1gig tart.gz is 5.9gig
[23:55] <BUGabundo1> try to make a new from dd /dev/zero
[23:55] <micahg> what's the original format?
[23:56] <gnomefreak> tar.gz even
[23:56] <gnomefreak> micahg: a normal file
[23:56] <micahg> define normal?
[23:56] <gnomefreak> s/file/folder
[23:56] <micahg> graphic, movie, text?
[23:56] <BUGabundo1> eheh what's normal?
[23:56]  * BUGabundo1 there is no normal. the _normality_ is the anormal
[23:56] <gnomefreak> micahg: everything some music some text some pics. its a back up folder
[23:57] <micahg> ah, so depending on the algorithm, you might get a higher size from pictures
[23:57] <micahg> you can try bzip2
[23:57] <micahg> tar -cjvf
[23:57] <gnomefreak> regaurdless of folder a tar should never be bigger in size than folder at least not over a gig
[23:57] <micahg> not true
[23:57] <micahg> it's not the tar
[23:57] <micahg> it's the gxz
[23:57] <gnomefreak> micahg: the normal doics will compress regaurdless of music or pics
[23:58] <gnomefreak> nothing should get bigger
[23:58] <fta> gnomefreak, just make sure you're not tarring the tar itself ;)
[23:58] <micahg> graphics will get bigger with gz sometimes
[23:58] <gnomefreak> fta: im not i made sure of that :)
[23:58] <BUGabundo1> micahg: by a Giga?
[23:58] <gnomefreak> micahg: not close to a gig
[23:58] <micahg> if there are enough
[23:59] <fta> gnomefreak, pastebin what you did
[23:59] <gnomefreak> micahg: i didnt add any pics from last backup nor music and it was 4.4 gig tar.gz i replaced some of my . dirs
[23:59] <gnomefreak> fta: how? i tared it up earlier