[00:02] <reid> ah thanks
[00:02] <reid> I was actually just missing a header file >.<
[01:09] <benc1> where are python packages installed on ubuntu Jaunty?
[01:10] <tonyyarusso> benc1: are you looking for a specific piece or package?
[01:11] <benc1> tonyyarusso: yes. I've installed a package with pip and don't know how to remove it
[01:11] <tonyyarusso> Because "packages" install all over the place.
[01:11] <benc1> tonyyarusso: I've did pyp install
[01:11] <benc1> sorry: pip install
[01:12] <tonyyarusso> maybe 'pip remove' or 'pip uninstall'?
[01:12] <tonyyarusso> I'm not familiar with pip at all - only dpkg.
[01:12] <benc1> tonyyarusso: there is pip-uninstall separate package but it is expermintal and I don't want to do dmamage
[01:12] <benc1> tonyyarusso: can I just delete the package folder to remove it manually?
[01:13] <tonyyarusso> No idea.  What does this tool even do?
[01:13] <tonyyarusso> What package provides 'pip'?
[01:14] <benc1> it's included in some python package. looking for it
[03:11] <r00tintheb0x> Who wants to see something SUPER sexy?!
[03:12] <r00tintheb0x> woooooot!!! http://pastebin.ca/raw/1425066
[03:12] <r00tintheb0x> Thank GOD I got it working, its been out of sync since Ike.
[03:12] <r00tintheb0x> And its customer Oracle database data.
[03:12]  * r00tintheb0x wipes brow.
[03:13] <r00tintheb0x> 1.81 terabytes of data.
[03:13] <r00tintheb0x> And, im getting these messages too.
[03:13] <r00tintheb0x> May 16 20:37:36 nas-node1 smartd[3687]: Device: /dev/hda, 2 Currently unreadable (pending) sectors
[03:13] <r00tintheb0x> May 16 21:07:36 nas-node1 smartd[3687]: Device: /dev/hda, 2 Currently unreadable (pending) sectors
[03:14] <r00tintheb0x> Anyone know what those are about... drive just going bad?
[03:16] <twb> Ike?
[03:17] <PhotoJim> Dwight D. Eisenhower, I assume.
[03:17] <PhotoJim> Somewhat better known than if he'd said "Dief".
[03:19] <r00tintheb0x> huh?
[03:19] <r00tintheb0x> Yeah, Ike.
[03:19] <r00tintheb0x> Hurricane Ike...
[03:19] <r00tintheb0x> Im from Houston. I had to move 15 servers from one location to another.
[03:19] <r00tintheb0x> Never got HA/DRBD reconfigured... until tolday.
[03:20] <r00tintheb0x> our two NAS boxes are syncing again, nas-node1 to nas-node2 right now.
[03:22] <r00tintheb0x>  /dev/drbd0            1.8T  972G  769G  56% /data
[03:22] <r00tintheb0x> That would have been a lot of data to lose.
[03:28] <PhotoJim> ahh.  see, we haven't had a hurricane since the dinosaur era.  so I thought of Eisenhower.
[03:34] <twb> I only know about monsoons.
[03:34] <twb> I thought Ike was a foreign abbreviation for a month or day name, like "Lun" for Monday.
[03:48] <r00tintheb0x> Yeah...
[03:48] <r00tintheb0x> But like I was saying, its nice to have DRBD syncing.
[03:48] <r00tintheb0x> Next is an Oracle 10G DB HA.
[03:49] <r00tintheb0x> Not too sure now im going to keep the databases in sync.
[03:49] <r00tintheb0x> I guess with a dump and restore.
[04:25] <TimReichhart> could anybody tell me what how passwords are encrypt in ubuntu/mysql
[04:27] <tonyyarusso> TimReichhart: well, Ubuntu as an OS uses /etc/shadow, and I think they're either MD5 or SHA-1 hashes.  Not sure about MySQL.
[04:28] <TimReichhart> well I know MD5 passwords is not working on mysql with roundcube
[04:28] <TimReichhart> so im trying to figure out what type of MD5 its using
[04:29] <TimReichhart> lets say this is regluar MD5 password of 7b9f9e7f9eb41cbea2d1 and that password doesnt work but if I use this: tJhggTSs3Dotw  it works just fine
[04:33] <TimReichhart> so any ideas?
[04:41] <jmarsden> TimReichhart: Why do you care exactly how MySQL encodes its passwords?  Are you hoping to crack them???  as long as whatever it encodes them into is in a form that fits in the mysql database field for that password hash, you shouldn't need to care exactly how it was encoded...
[04:42] <TimReichhart> well is because I am trying to make a page so I can add users to my database
[04:42] <jmarsden> Users do not care that md5 is being used...
[04:43] <jmarsden> They type in a userbname and pw, you let the app encode it however it wants and store it...
[04:43] <TimReichhart> listen I tried it with MD5 it doesnt work
[04:43] <TimReichhart> trust me
[04:44] <jmarsden> OK.  If you say so.  I run Roundcube on a server with about 1000 users, and it does work... :)
[04:44] <TimReichhart> ok but are you using mysql to handle roundcube?
[04:44] <TimReichhart> is your postfix on mysql? and is ur dovecot on mysql?
[04:46] <TimReichhart> well jmarsden im asking u a question are you going to answer back?
[04:49] <TimReichhart> jmarsden im still waiting on your answer
[05:02] <jmarsden> TimReichhart: Yes and Yes.  I am marked as being away for a reason... I'm about to have to drive 140+ miles round trip... (supposed to leave 2 minutes ago) ... I can't really deal with this in detail now!
[05:03] <TimReichhart> well then dont say its going to work with out giving your answer
[05:09] <giovani3> TimReichhart: this is community support, no need to demand things
[05:09] <TimReichhart> well I dont except somebody to tell me its going to work when I just said it doesnt
[05:10] <giovani3> well you may have different situations
[05:10] <giovani3> roundcube is opensource, so look at its code to see how its encoding the passwords
[05:10] <giovani3> it might be using a salt
[05:10] <giovani3> or a double-md5
[05:11] <giovani3> this channel also isn't #roundcube so ...
[05:11] <TimReichhart> see anytime I try to put anything to this script i get this Warning: hash() [function.hash]: Unknown hashing algorithm: double-md5 in /var/www/index.php on line 28
[05:12] <giovani3> that channel does exist, you might want to ask about that there
[05:12] <giovani3> TimReichhart: hahahaha
[05:12] <TimReichhart> only thing that works is md5
[08:26] <shyam> hi trying to do localnet boot reading help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet and as guided by CarlFK... am trying with dhcp3-server and tftp the package tftp failed as i got error that tftp-server can
[08:27] <shyam> can't have tsize option..
[08:27] <shyam> now so i changed to tftp-hpa. but it  isn't working:(
[08:28] <shyam> have configued /etc/default/tftp-hpa as per that doc and added  "tftp dgram udp wait nobody /usr/sbin/tcpd in.tftpd /tftpboot" to /etc/inetd.conf .. no idea whats going wrong..
[08:29] <shyam> and tried restarting /etc/init.d/xinetd and /etc/init.d/tftp-hda but all results in "tftp open time out"(on net boot client) "transfer timed out"(on doing "tftp localhost")
[08:32] <shyam> anyone free?
[08:50]  * shyam going for a restart..
[09:23] <shyam> now tftp problem is solved.. it boot to busybox ash shell with (initramfs) prompt
[09:23] <shyam> what next?
[09:25] <shyam> am trying it a bit twisted way.. i am trying to use a live cd with casper directory having filesystem.squashfs and things .. would that be a problem that its a live cd not an alternate cd?
[10:38] <shyam> as i try to net boot its stuck at (initramfs) and as i type exit there, it says cp:unable to open /root/var/log/ no such file or dicretory and /root/dev but i donno how did that /root/ got in additionally..
[10:38] <shyam> i.e it should be looking at /var/log instead of /root right?
[11:06] <shyam> now it says "target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init"
[11:06] <shyam> as i exit from initramfs prompt
[13:43] <w8tah-LT> can someone please point me to the instructions for setting up a software RAID on ubuntu?
[13:43] <w8tah-LT> (technically a mirror)
[13:46] <giovani3> w8tah-LT: during install, or post-install?
[13:47] <W8TAH> during install
[13:47] <giovani2> well the options are there in the installer
[13:47] <giovani2> let me see if I can find a little guide or some screenshots
[13:48] <giovani2> http://advosys.ca/viewpoints/2007/04/setting-up-software-raid-in-ubuntu-server/
[13:48] <giovani2> you just create the raid devices on the physical drive
[13:48] <giovani2> and then create the partitions on the raid device
[13:49] <w8tah-LT> thanks
[14:04] <Tuxist> I have problem with libnss-ldap I have overide the default ccache location in ldap.conf but nothing is happen they search the ticket in /tmp/krb5cc_o I use ubuntu 9.04
[14:06] <Tuxist> under debian 5.0 I have no problems
[17:26] <VSpike> Hiya. Can i directly upgrade 8.04 LTS to 9.04?
[17:27] <Nafallo> no
[17:29] <W8TAH> ive got a server with a possibly corrupted disk as part of a LVM group -- i have been trying to check it - -and not having much success -- can someone please help me?
[17:30] <giovani2> W8TAH: what specifically have you not been having success with?
[17:30] <W8TAH> im currently booted from a live cd -- trying to use fsck but its complaing
[17:30] <W8TAH> and not giving me any results
[17:31] <W8TAH> says it cant find fsck.lvm2pv
[17:31] <W8TAH> ive got e2fstools installed
[17:32] <giovani2> e2fs is for ext partitions
[17:32] <giovani2> lvm is defintiely not ext
[17:32] <W8TAH> ok
[17:32] <W8TAH> what should i be using to work on it then?
[17:32] <giovani2> well it depends on what's corrupted
[17:33] <giovani2> is it the LVM partition that's corrupted or the extX partition on top of LVM that's corrupted?
[17:33] <giovani2> and what commands did you execute that failed?
[17:34] <W8TAH> its a samba file server - we cant get get to the data on thats on the lvm
[17:34] <W8TAH> but - the /partition boots with no problems
[17:34] <W8TAH> so i know that disk (sda) is ok
[17:34] <W8TAH> when its running the console has all kinds of disk errors scrolling across it
[17:35] <giovani2> that sounds like the disk is not ok
[17:35] <giovani2> just because some areas of the disk are fine, doesn't mean others are bad
[17:35] <giovani2> err, doesn't mean others aren't bad*
[17:35] <giovani2> are your drives SMART-compatible?
[17:35] <W8TAH> yes
[17:36] <giovani2> have you run SMART checks on them?
[17:36] <W8TAH> i ran the long check -- it took 160 minutes and hasnt told me anything -- i let it run overnight - and no data was on the screen when i came back
[17:36] <giovani2> long checks can take a while
[17:37] <giovani2> how about the short tests?
[17:37] <W8TAH> again -- i ran one - -took 2 minutes -- and no data output -- i think maybe i dont know how to make it tell me what it finds
[17:40] <W8TAH> ok -- i found how to get the output --
[17:40] <W8TAH> its says in both tests -- read failure
[17:41] <giovani2> can you paste the command you ran, and the output to a pastebin?
[17:41] <giovani2> that'd be clearer for me to understand
[17:42] <W8TAH> unfortunatly no -- the machine is across the room running on a live cd, so i cannot ssh in etc
[17:42] <giovani2> you can't ssh out from it?
[17:42] <giovani2> or scp it out
[17:43] <giovani2> a read error is not a good sign
[17:43] <giovani2> but I'd need to see the context
[17:43] <W8TAH> i tried to ssh in and it wants a password
[17:43] <W8TAH> which doesnt exist
[17:43] <W8TAH> because its live cd
[17:43] <W8TAH> unless i shouldnt be using live cd
[17:43] <giovani2> I just meant from the livecd box
[17:43] <giovani2> output the smartctl command and output to a file
[17:43] <W8TAH> oh - -let me see
[17:44] <giovani2> and then scp that file to another box on the network
[17:44] <W8TAH> ok -- one min
[17:44] <giovani2> where you can then pastebin from
[17:44] <giovani2> or access the internet directly from the livecd
[17:44] <W8TAH> might be able to do that - -hang on a sec
[17:46] <W8TAH> http://pastebin.ca/1425577
[17:49] <W8TAH> the command is sudo smartctl -t short /dev/hdb
[17:49] <giovani2> well read failures during self tests are signs that the drive has bad sectors and/or is failing
[17:49] <giovani2> or that you stopped the test somehow
[17:49] <W8TAH> i didnt stop the test
[17:49] <giovani2> ok
[17:49] <giovani2> then it sounds like the drive may be going bad
[17:49] <W8TAH> ok - is there any way to grab whatever data off it that i can
[17:50] <giovani2> is the filesystem unmountable?
[17:50] <giovani2> if the data is critical, I'd recommend using dd to make a perfect bit-for-bit copy of the drive as it is -- which you can then work on repairing, etc for the data later
[17:50] <W8TAH> its not critical
[17:51] <W8TAH> its student projects for my 4-8th grade classes
[17:51] <W8TAH> id LIKE to recover it if feasible
[17:51] <W8TAH> i had a faliure in my backup chain
[17:51] <W8TAH> so i dont have recent backups
[17:51] <giovani2> ok
[17:51] <giovani2> well if the filesystem is unmountable, you can continue to try to fsck it
[17:51] <giovani2> but, if possible, it's best to use dd to make a bit-for-bit copy of the drive
[17:52] <W8TAH> ok - how do i do that?
[17:52] <giovani2> then if you do something bad to the filesystem, or the drive fails further, you have a copy of it
[17:52] <giovani2> how big is the drive?
[17:52] <W8TAH> 250 gb
[17:52] <giovani2> how much of it has data on it?
[17:52] <W8TAH> not much -- maybe 20gb at the very outside
[17:52] <giovani2> ok
[17:53] <giovani2> do you have another drive somewhere that you can plug into the system?
[17:53] <W8TAH> yes
[17:53] <giovani2> external, or internal -- or a fast network connection and a fileserver?
[17:53] <W8TAH> ive got a 150gb drive in an enclosure
[17:53] <W8TAH> that i can plug in via usb
[17:53] <giovani2> ok, plug that in and mount it
[17:53] <giovani2> I presume it has a good amount of free space on it?
[17:53] <W8TAH> compltely empty
[17:53] <giovani2> great
[17:54] <W8TAH> boot into server or keep working from the live cd?
[17:54] <giovani2> stay on the livecd
[17:54] <W8TAH> ok -
[17:54] <W8TAH> gimme a min -- i need to install the drive etc
[17:54] <giovani2> ok
[17:56] <giovani2> now you said you had LVM on this drive, are you using LVM to span filesystems across multiple drives?
[17:57] <W8TAH> yes
[18:03] <W8TAH> ok --  ive got the external drive mounted --
[18:03] <W8TAH> never used dd before
[18:03] <W8TAH> the manpage doesnt quite seem to indicate what to do
[18:05] <giovani2> ok, well this is much more complex since you're using lvm, particularly with multiple drives
[18:05] <giovani2> because the data is disparate, potentially
[18:05] <W8TAH> i was kinda afraid of that
[18:05] <W8TAH> when it gets rebuilt it will be raid
[18:05] <giovani2> how many drives are in the LVM Volume Group?
[18:05] <W8TAH> 2
[18:05] <W8TAH> 2 physical
[18:05] <giovani2> ok, well I'd image both of them to be safe, I suppose
[18:05] <W8TAH> makes sense to me
[18:06] <giovani2> dd if=/dev/sdX | gzip -9 > /your/usb/volume/here/drive1.dd
[18:06] <giovani2> that'll copy every bit dd can off of the drive, and then compress it all
[18:06] <W8TAH> ok - -cool
[18:06] <W8TAH> do that to both?
[18:07] <giovani2> yes, but hold on one sec while I look something up
[18:07] <W8TAH> ok
[18:07] <W8TAH> thanks
[18:10] <giovani2> let's do a `dd if=/dev/sdX conv=noerror,sync | gzip -9 > /your/usb/volume/here/drive1.dd
[18:10] <W8TAH> ok
[18:10] <giovani2> there will be -some- data loss, obviously, where the drive has bad sectors
[18:10] <giovani2> so we're trying to maximize what can be saved
[18:10] <W8TAH> include the accent mark b4 dd?
[18:10] <W8TAH> ok
[18:10] <giovani2> no, no accent mark, sorry
[18:10] <W8TAH> ok
[18:11] <wizardslovak> anyone with email server?
[18:11] <giovani2> wizardslovak: plenty of us, yes
[18:12] <wizardslovak> ok is there way i can check if i got imap installed?
[18:12] <giovani2> wizardslovak: imap being a protocol, and not a specific server/daemon/application, no
[18:12] <wizardslovak> i am trying to figure out why i cant loggin on squirrelmail
[18:12] <giovani2> did you install an imap server?
[18:13] <W8TAH> giovani2: ok -- its running
[18:13] <giovani2> W8TAH: ok
[18:14] <wizardslovak> yes i installed it
[18:14] <giovani2> wizardslovak: WHICH one?
[18:17] <W8TAH> giovani2: its running -- its showing progress (200mb copied so far) but also showing a bunch of I/O errors
[18:17] <giovani2> W8TAH: yep ... that'll happen
[18:17] <W8TAH> ok
[18:17] <W8TAH> cool
[18:17] <giovani2> your drive is dying -- we're saving what we can
[18:17] <W8TAH> kewl
[18:17] <W8TAH> thanks
[18:18] <thewrathjr> hey all
[18:18] <thewrathjr> which one is better 8.04 or 9.04 server?
[18:19] <giovani2> thewrathjr: "better" is all relative -- 9.04 is recently released
[18:19] <thewrathjr> true
[18:19] <thewrathjr> are most users still using hte lts release
[18:19] <giovani2> honestly, I don't know what percentage of people use which
[18:19] <giovani2> I run the latest, when possible
[18:19] <thewrathjr> ok
[18:19] <thewrathjr> what do you use giovani2
[18:19] <giovani2> ^
[18:20] <thewrathjr> oh ok
[18:20] <thewrathjr> giovani2, sorry i didnt see that
[18:20] <thewrathjr> lol
[18:20] <giovani2> which means a few of my servers run 8.10
[18:20] <giovani2> and a few run 9.04
[18:20] <giovani2> depending on when I installed them
[18:20] <W8TAH> thewrathjr: id go for the LTS
[18:20] <W8TAH> i try to keep my servers on the LTS release
[18:21] <wizardslovak> i upgraded from 8.10 to 9.04
[18:21] <wizardslovak> i am newbie in it anyways
[18:21] <giovani2> wizardslovak: ok, you still haven't told me what imap server you installed
[18:22] <wizardslovak> i cant find it
[18:22] <wizardslovak> i think courier
[18:22] <giovani2> ok, is courier running?
[18:22] <giovani2> ps aux | grep -i courier
[18:23] <thewrathjr> k
[18:23] <wizardslovak> ok
[18:24] <thewrathjr> what do you guys runon ur servers?
[18:24] <wizardslovak> http://pastebin.com/m632c1b1b
[18:25] <wizardslovak> thewrathjr: os lol you?
[18:25] <giovani2> thewrathjr: you'd have to be more specific than that
[18:25] <thewrathjr> yes
[18:25] <thewrathjr> like what services?
[18:25] <giovani2> thewrathjr: too many to count
[18:25] <thewrathjr> can you say some?
[18:26] <wizardslovak> LAMP
[18:26] <wizardslovak> giovani2: check pastebin
[18:26] <giovani2> lighttpd, postfix, dovecot, opensshd, apache, openradius
[18:26] <giovani2> wizardslovak: ok, so, some part of courier is running, not sure if that's just the auth setup
[18:26] <thewrathjr> wahts the difference btween lighthttpd and apache
[18:26] <thewrathjr> and what is openradious
[18:27] <W8TAH> thewrathjr: LAMP and samba here
[18:27] <wizardslovak> giovani2: what are you using for checking mail on postfix?
[18:27] <giovani2> thewrathjr: too numerous to count -- lighttpd is tons smaller, and faster for certain jobs
[18:27] <thewrathjr> ok
[18:27] <giovani2> wizardslovak: what do you mean "checking mail"?
[18:27] <giovani2> thewrathjr: openradius is a RADIUS server -- a large topic -- google it
[18:27] <thewrathjr> wahts no numerous?
[18:27] <thewrathjr> oh nvm
[18:27] <thewrathjr> what is Openradius?
 thewrathjr: openradius is a RADIUS server -- a large topic -- google it
[18:28] <giovani2> wizardslovak: sudo /etc/init.d/courier-imap start
[18:28] <wizardslovak> ok well something like squirrelmail ,so i can check email true web browser
[18:28] <giovani2> wizardslovak: I don't use webmail, it's horrible
[18:28] <giovani2> but when I did -- I used roundcube, and horde/imp
[18:29] <wizardslovak> how to check email then?
[18:29] <wizardslovak> shell
[18:29] <giovani2> uh ... using a mail application
[18:29] <giovani2> like kmail, or outlook, or thunderbird, or mutt, or pine
[18:30] <wizardslovak> ooo
[18:30] <wizardslovak> giovani
[18:30] <wizardslovak> giovani2: "no such file or directory"
[18:31] <giovani2> wizardslovak: sounds like you don't have courier installed then
[18:31] <wizardslovak> ok so i need imap
[18:31] <giovani2> sudo apt-get install courier-imap
[18:31] <giovani2> imap is a protocol
[18:31] <giovani2> you don't "have/get/need" it
[18:31] <giovani2> you need an -imap server-
[18:31] <wizardslovak> yes i need it for squirelmail
[18:31] <giovani2> sigh
[18:33] <wizardslovak> giovani2: i am newbie
[18:33] <wizardslovak> so i might sometimes ask too many question
[18:33] <wizardslovak> s
[18:33] <giovani2> you're just not listening to me
[18:33] <giovani2> imap is a protocol, you need an IMAP SERVER
[18:33] <wizardslovak> ok i installed courier imap
[18:33] <giovani2> courier-imap is an imap server
[18:33] <thewrathjr> what is Openradius?
[18:33] <wizardslovak> ok thank you
[18:33] <giovani2> thewrathjr: I've answered that question TWICE now
[18:33] <wizardslovak> i got it installed
 <giovani2> thewrathjr: openradius is a RADIUS server -- a large topic -- google it
[18:34] <W8TAH> giovani2: is this data copy likely to be a lengthy process?
[18:34] <giovani2> W8TAH: yes
[18:35] <W8TAH> ok -- i'll come back later and start it on the other disk -- will you be around tomorrow during the workday (eastern time?)
[18:35] <giovani2> W8TAH: not for extended periods of time -- when I'm at work I'm usually pretty busy for IRC
[18:35] <giovani2> but I'll try and log in
[18:35] <yann2> anyone knows what it means in htop when it displays "nan" for the usage of a core? can't be good
[18:36] <W8TAH> ok -- not much sense in me sitting here at work watching things scroll up the screen
[18:36] <RedDragons> hello
[18:36] <giovani2> yann2: that typically stands for "not a number"
[18:36] <giovani2> yann2: could be a programming bug, or a problem with your setup
[18:36] <giovani2> does top display things properly?
[18:36] <yann2> the server is behaving extremely weirdly
[18:36] <W8TAH> but i'll let it run and come back and start the sda copy running
[18:36] <yann2> I got "cpu stuck for 10 secs" in logs
[18:36] <RedDragons> i'm trying to intall sinit but it can't find it
[18:36] <giovani2> yann2: sounds like either a defective mb/cpu/powersupply, or a bad kernel/driver
[18:37] <thewrathjr> what mail server do u guys urn?
[18:37] <giovani2> thewrathjr: postfix and dovecot
[18:37] <W8TAH> googlemail for small business
[18:37] <thewrathjr> anyon ever used or tested horde
[18:37] <giovani2> thewrathjr: yes
[18:37] <thewrathjr> and...
[18:38] <giovani2> and what?
[18:38] <W8TAH> i'll try to hook up with u tomorrow giovani2
[18:38] <thewrathjr> why didnt u like it
[18:38] <thewrathjr> asumming u didnt since u dont run it
[18:38] <giovani2> thewrathjr: it's written in PHP, it's ugly, and is just poorly designed
[18:38] <giovani2> I hate webmail in general
[18:38] <thewrathjr> you like using outlook'thunderbird?
[18:39] <giovani2> I like using real mail clients
[18:39] <giovani2> I prefer kmail
[18:39] <giovani2> I hate thunderbird
[18:39] <giovani2> but at work we support outlook/thunderbird/pine/mutt
[18:40] <wizardslovak> i like to use them too , but sometimes i want to check mail from other PC
[18:41] <wizardslovak> so its good to have webmail
[18:41] <giovani2> yeah, I wouldn't check my mail from someone else's computer
[18:42] <wizardslovak> well i dont think my friend is capable to use info in emails to harm me in any way  lol
[18:42] <giovani2> that wasn't the reason
[18:42] <giovani2> but ok
[18:43] <wizardslovak> giovani2:  if you have time can you help me with setting kmail ?
[18:43] <giovani2> wizardslovak: nope, that's completely out of the scope of #ubuntu-server
[18:43] <giovani2> kmail is desktop software
[18:43] <wizardslovak> lol ok
[18:43] <wizardslovak> so just imap-sourier setttings
[18:44] <giovani2> courier-imap
[18:44] <giovani2> yeah, and not even those -- I don't know how to configure courier-imap
[18:45] <wizardslovak> but dovecot you can?
[18:45] <giovani2> yes
[18:45] <wizardslovak> ok
[18:46] <wizardslovak> so to install it how does package called?, tried dovecot  "package dovecot is not available"
[18:47] <wizardslovak> dovecot-common?
[18:48] <giovani2> heh, what mail server are you using?
[18:48] <wizardslovak> postfix
[18:48] <giovani2> what release of ubuntu?
[18:48] <wizardslovak> 9.04
[18:49] <giovani2> dovecot-postfix is supposed to be the all-in-one package
[18:49] <giovani2> but I have no idea if it's functional
[18:49] <giovani2> never used it
[18:49] <giovani2> it's new in 9.04
[18:50] <wizardslovak> well i know i didnt install dovecot
[18:50] <wizardslovak> so i gotta get it first
[18:54] <wizardslovak> ok i got dovecto installed
[18:55] <wizardslovak> how to test it? how to configure it?
[19:10] <RedDragons> l
[19:11] <RedDragons> I'm trying to intall sinit but it can't find it
[19:12] <RedDragons> hi
[19:12] <RedDragons> I'm trying to intall sinit but it can't find it?
[19:20] <RedDragons> hello?
[19:22] <wizardslovak> how can i find in which group my user is in?
[19:30] <RedDragons> I'm useing the server ver. I'm trying to intall sinit but it can't find it.
[19:40] <wizardslovak> "telnet localhost imap2" unable to connect" what should i do ?
[19:40] <wizardslovak> why it doexnt want to connect?
[19:46] <wizardslovak> i cannot connect to myself
[19:50] <phaidros> wizardslovak: please read here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1969726 and follow the links in there, after reading that we can try to help you
[19:50] <wizardslovak> ok i got it work
[19:50] <phaidros> ok
[19:50] <wizardslovak> thank you
[19:50] <RedDragons> i'm hing troble geting xinit to run
[19:51] <wizardslovak> "telnet localhost imap2" unable to connect
[19:51] <phaidros> wizardslovak: is that a question?
[19:51] <wizardslovak> well kinda
[19:52] <phaidros> hehe, u just said: < wizardslovak> ok i got it work
[19:52] <wizardslovak> yes
[19:52] <RedDragons> it say "something" is missing
[19:52] <phaidros> please to be a litle more precise, what you are traing to approach and what the problem is ;)
[19:53] <wizardslovak> ok sorry
[19:53] <wizardslovak> well i installed dovecot and its running, when i want to test it with "telnet localhost imap2" it says that connection refused
[19:53] <RedDragons> you talking to me?
[19:54] <phaidros> RedDragons: I never used xinit, sry
[19:54] <RedDragons> ok
[19:54] <RedDragons> its just i'm new to udundu and i'm not uesd to commin lines
[19:54] <phaidros> RedDragons: at least not directly, I believe gdm is handling that usually
[19:55] <RedDragons> is there a graphical inerface?
[19:55] <phaidros> wizardslovak: did you configure dovecot? if yes, to listen on which port(s)? did you enable ssl? ssl-only? see: sudo netstat -tupan and look for the docevot process on which port is listens ..
[19:56] <RedDragons> well
[19:57] <phaidros> wizardslovak: 'grep imap /etc/services' should give you a hint what usual imap ports are. I never tried using telnet with a protocol name, so I dunno why it's not working, I assume wrong port ..
[19:57] <phaidros> RedDragons: hat did you install or have in front of you? ubuntu-server? and what do you wnat to approach? getting gui?
[19:58] <phaidros> RedDragons: there is on any any ubuntu system a gui, but for servers, just no installed. if you need gui try: aptitude install gnome
[19:59] <Baversjo> Hi! Im trying to setup simple traffic shaping on my server. The only thing I need is to reserve a bit bandwidth to Ssh (443). Anyone who could give me a hand? :)
[20:00] <Baversjo> What tool should I use and what should I add in the config file? :)
[20:02] <RedDragons> i had to install xinit and when i type startx it say /usr/bin/x11/x: not found xinit: server error
[20:09] <phaidros> RedDragons: which version of ubuntu-server are you running?
[20:09] <RedDragons> the newest
[20:09] <RedDragons> 9.4 i think
[20:24] <slide> Are there any torrent daemon clients becides transmission-daemon?
[20:26] <phaidros> slide: torrent gui client? oder tracker?
[20:26] <slide> no-gui client
[20:27] <phaidros> slide: deluge-torrent, I like it pretty much
[20:27] <phaidros> RedDragons: sry, was afk :/
[20:27] <slide> phaidros, do you use it without the gui?
[20:28] <phaidros> slide: oh, sry. I just misread .. rtorrent for cli :)
[20:28] <rockee> Im non technical person but still have some knowledge to about web designing and all. Today only I installed Ubuntu 9.04 server in my machine (2 GB RAM, Intel centrino Duo, Sony Vaio Laptop) after deleting win-vista. I was trying to learn about Linux n Ubuntu since last week.. The purpose was to create a mail server After installation I stuck up with non-GUI interface of ubuntu server 9.04, while I was having only one computer system so I installed G
[20:28] <slide> phaidros, actually daemon, something that runs constantly in the background
[20:29] <phaidros> RedDragons: I just had a quicklook in my /usr/bin/startx script, and there is no path to /usr/bin/x11/x, either you are not on 9.04, or something strange is there
[20:29] <phaidros> RedDragons: did you try do install gnome? this gnome display manager just should require all needed dependencies for a complete X
[20:30] <phaidros> slide: hm, ever tried screen?
[20:30] <phaidros> slide: I always use screen for things like irssi and rtorrent ..
[20:31] <rockee> can anybody help me also
[20:32] <phaidros> rockee: your question ended with "so I installed G"
[20:32] <phaidros> rockee: actually this was no question ;)
[20:36] <rockee> oh Iḿ sorry... Now question is ... ubuntu server 9.04 is also in my HDD ... and and this GUI also... can I work on this OS for developing mail server? or I have to work on that non-GUI OS for setting up mail server? is there any tutorial for setting uo mail server on Ubuntu 9.04? any tutorial that can be useful for beginer ? I also downloaded and installed webmin, is this useful? or required?
[20:43] <rockee> any help?
[20:45] <rockee> bekar log... koi bhartiya hai yaha?
[21:25] <phaidros> re
[21:36] <NativeAngels> hello can anyone tell me what this means http://pastebin.com/m6bc76bb2
[21:43] <sommer> NativeAngels: it means that your ssh client deosn't have the servers key... if you're sure of the IP it's usually safe to confirm
[21:45] <NativeAngels> ok
[21:45] <NativeAngels> so why do i get this http://pastebin.com/m472715d2 sommer
[21:46] <NativeAngels> any ideas sommer
[21:47] <sommer> NativeAngels: not sure never seen that before.  What realease are you running?  and is that on your client or the server?
[21:47] <NativeAngels> im using ubuntu 8.04
[21:49] <sommer> NativeAngels: are there any other errors in /var/log/syslog or /var/log/auth.log that may be from ssh?
[22:21] <NativeAngels> sommer i fixed it
[22:21] <LMJ> Hi
[22:22] <LMJ> Is there a way to find but for Hardy (LTS) http://packages.ubuntu.com/fr/intrepid/web/php-apc
[23:16] <W8TAH> giovani2: im back -- its still going -- so i'll let it run over night -- when it finishes, and ive copied the other drive as well, replace the failed drive, reformat / reinstall server and then expand the files back onto the drives?
[23:21] <thewrathjr> hi all
[23:22] <frojnd> I've just installed the packages ampache and phpmyadmin. But when I go to mydomain.net/phpmyadmin nothing happens... why is that. During the installation of phpmyadmin it asked what web sertver to configure... I've set eapache2. Why I can't access mydomain.net/phpmyadmin ?
[23:22] <W8TAH> frojnd: try going to 127.0.0.1 and see what you get
[23:25] <W8TAH> frojnd: ????
[23:26] <frojnd> W8TAH: erm but this is my local IP
[23:26] <W8TAH> i know this
[23:26] <W8TAH> usually if apache2 is working correctly
[23:26] <W8TAH> and you browse to that ip
[23:27] <W8TAH> you will get a screen telling you apache is working --
[23:27] <frojnd> W8TAH: I Can see the web configuration of myip.net/ampache the startup page..
[23:27] <W8TAH> ok --
[23:27] <W8TAH> thats good
[23:27] <W8TAH> that means apache is working
[23:27] <frojnd> W8TAH: ok
[23:27] <W8TAH> now try http://ipofserver/phpmyadmin
[23:28] <frojnd> W8TAH: now that when I get: Not Found
[23:28] <W8TAH> hummm - might try the phpmyadmin chan
[23:28] <W8TAH> im not real sure
[23:29] <frojnd> do I even need this package?
[23:29] <W8TAH> depends on what you are trying to do
[23:29] <frojnd> configure the ampache
[23:30] <frojnd> and as I see here on the wiki, I need root of my mysql
[23:30] <frojnd> the user name of mysql
[23:30] <W8TAH> wait
[23:30] <frojnd> than I need database user for new database
[23:30] <W8TAH> phpmydamin is for mysql
[23:30] <W8TAH> it has nothing to do with apache
[23:30] <frojnd> yep
[23:30] <frojnd> no
[23:31] <frojnd> AMPACHE
[23:31] <W8TAH> what is ampache?
[23:31] <frojnd> is a web php tool that gatgeres all the music you have on the server and you can stream it or have flash for it or even in amarok..
[23:32] <W8TAH> then i truly have NO clue --
[23:32] <frojnd> the music gathered on one place accessable via nice web gui
[23:35] <frojnd> hm
[23:35] <frojnd> maybe it didn't install correctly
[23:35] <frojnd> is there a command to reinstall
[23:35] <frojnd> or I have to remove and than install
[23:35] <frojnd> or --purge remove and than install?
[23:35] <thewrathjr> W8TAH: did you do sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin
[23:35] <frojnd> thewrathjr: yes
[23:36] <thewrathjr> and u can not view the phpmyadmin page?
[23:36] <frojnd> thewrathjr: trie
[23:36] <frojnd> true
[23:36] <W8TAH> thewrathjr: i didnt do any of the sort - -im not installing it
[23:36] <W8TAH> i was trying to help frojnd
[23:36] <frojnd> thewrathjr: this is really my problem
[23:36] <thewrathjr> ok
[23:36] <thewrathjr> i see
[23:37] <frojnd> When I try to install phpmyadmin I get this menu: > ok
[23:37] <frojnd> hpMyAdmin supports any web server that PHP does, but this automatic configuration process only supports Apache.
[23:37] <frojnd> and I can select which server to reconfigure automatically: apache2, apache, apache-ssl, apache-perl, lighttpd
[23:37] <thewrathjr> ok hold on
[23:38] <thewrathjr> apache2
[23:38] <frojnd> ok so I did this ok
[23:38] <thewrathjr> k
[23:38] <thewrathjr> im trying to catch up to you lol
[23:38] <frojnd> :)
[23:38] <thewrathjr> im on desktop atm so yea
[23:38] <frojnd> erm this is the guide: http://ampache.org/wiki/install:ubuntu
[23:39] <thewrathjr> u trying to install ampache or apache
[23:39] <frojnd> thewrathjr: ampache
[23:39] <thewrathjr> what is that
[23:39] <frojnd> thewrathjr: ampache is installed
[23:39] <thewrathjr> never heard of it
[23:39] <frojnd> I just have to configure it
[23:40] <frojnd> it's a nice web php tool that gatheres all the music on one place (server) and i can access to it and listen to it locally or via web... like in flash, playlist, or in amarok..
[23:40] <thewrathjr> ok
[23:40] <thewrathjr> let me catch up to u
[23:40] <thewrathjr> well that will be a while
[23:41] <thewrathjr> so u can not get to phpmyadmin right?
[23:41] <frojnd> right
[23:41] <frojnd> I can go to myip.net/ampache
[23:41] <frojnd> but to configure it I need to set mysql
[23:41] <frojnd> and phpmyadmin does that in a simple way
[23:42] <thewrathjr> recondigure (sudo dpkg --reconfigure phpmyadmin)
[23:42] <frojnd> and I can not go to mydoman.net/phpmyadmin
[23:42] <thewrathjr> could just use sockso
[23:42] <frojnd> it isn't the right command
[23:42] <frojnd> reconfigure
[23:43] <Rafael> Anybody can tell me what a segmentation fault is?
[23:44] <thewrathjr> foxbuntu: Just in case you haven’t installed phpMyAdmin yet, type the following line in the Terminal:
[23:44] <thewrathjr> apt-get install phpmyadmin To set up under Apache all you need to do is include the following line in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf, first type the following command to open up this file:
[23:44] <thewrathjr> gksudo gedit /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[23:44] <thewrathjr> Rafael: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Segmentation_fault
[23:45] <frojnd> thewrathjr: I use vim
[23:45] <frojnd> I'm looking to what?
[23:46] <ajmitch> no editing of apache2.conf should be necessary
[23:46] <thewrathjr> frojnd: did not get all of it
[23:46] <thewrathjr> go here: http://www.blog.highub.com/linux/install-and-configure-phpmyadmin-on-ubuntu-lamp/
[23:47] <thewrathjr> ajmitch: yes i agree maybe phpmyadmin just did not install completely properly due to permission erros
[23:47] <ajmitch> the phpmyadmin package should place a file in /etc/apache2/conf.d
[23:47] <thewrathjr> key would is **should**
[23:47] <thewrathjr> be back have to go and deliver something quick
[23:47] <Rafael> thewranthjr: thanks i saw it, but what should i do if i got that after: sudo mdadm --assemble /dev/md0
[23:48] <ajmitch> frojnd: check if that file is there, and check if you have any virtual host definitions that wouldn't be using that phpmyadmin alias
[23:48] <frojnd> ajmitch: which file?
[23:48] <ajmitch>  /etc/apache2/conf.d/phpmyadmin.conf
[23:48] <thewrathjr> Rafael: that i am not sure
[23:49] <ajmitch> and are you using a virtualhost?
[23:49] <thewrathjr> ajmitch: might know do you ? never gotten one before
[23:49] <frojnd> ajmitch: no
[23:49] <thewrathjr> virutalhost is what it uses by default right ajmitch?
[23:50] <frojnd> ajmitch: what am I looking at?
[23:50] <frojnd> ajmitch: I mean what option is the one that is keeping apache2 from showing phpmyadmin=
[23:50] <ajmitch> frojnd: have you reloaded apache2?
[23:51] <ajmitch> by that, I mean sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 reload
[23:51] <frojnd> ajmitch: no I didn't
[23:51] <ajmitch> try it, the phpmyadmin package may not have triggered a reload of the configuration after it was installed
[23:51] <frojnd> ajmitch: I did now and there is no difference
[23:52] <ajmitch> what url are you trying?
[23:52] <frojnd> I think it did reload at the end of phpmyadimin installation
[23:52] <frojnd> frojnd.no-ip.org/phpmyadmin
[23:52] <frojnd> go hack me
[23:52] <frojnd> :)
[23:53] <ajmitch> that is doing some funny things with port redirects & all
[23:53] <frojnd> ajmitch: yep
[23:53] <ajmitch> since it ends up on port 1080
[23:53] <frojnd> it is the correct port :)
[23:53] <ajmitch> where is that configured from?
[23:53] <frojnd> isp blocks everything below 1000
[23:53] <ajmitch> how irritating
[23:53] <frojnd> ajmitch: slovenia
[23:53] <frojnd> ajmitch: mhm
[23:54] <ajmitch> I meant which package is it configured from
[23:54] <ajmitch> sigh
[23:54] <ajmitch> sorry, I just got called upstairs at work
[23:54] <frojnd> so you must go now
[23:54] <ajmitch> I have to go for a bit, sorry I can't help more
[23:54] <frojnd> no biggy
[23:54] <frojnd> I'm going to sleep anyway
[23:54] <frojnd> thanx for you trying to helo me
[23:54] <frojnd> help
[23:55] <frojnd> night
[23:57] <FFForever> i have a vps with 256mb of ram how do i upgrade to 9.04?
[23:57] <FFForever> do-release-upgrade gives me OSError: [Errno 12] Cannot allocate memory