[00:02] ah thanks [00:02] I was actually just missing a header file >.< [01:09] where are python packages installed on ubuntu Jaunty? [01:10] benc1: are you looking for a specific piece or package? [01:11] tonyyarusso: yes. I've installed a package with pip and don't know how to remove it [01:11] Because "packages" install all over the place. [01:11] tonyyarusso: I've did pyp install [01:11] sorry: pip install [01:12] maybe 'pip remove' or 'pip uninstall'? [01:12] I'm not familiar with pip at all - only dpkg. [01:12] tonyyarusso: there is pip-uninstall separate package but it is expermintal and I don't want to do dmamage [01:12] tonyyarusso: can I just delete the package folder to remove it manually? [01:13] No idea. What does this tool even do? [01:13] What package provides 'pip'? [01:14] it's included in some python package. looking for it === hessml|away is now known as hessml|away|away [01:45] New bug: #306002 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (main) "/etc/mysql/my.cnf cannot be read" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/306002 === hessml|away is now known as hessml|away|away === hessml|away is now known as hessml|away|away [03:11] Who wants to see something SUPER sexy?! [03:12] woooooot!!! http://pastebin.ca/raw/1425066 [03:12] Thank GOD I got it working, its been out of sync since Ike. [03:12] And its customer Oracle database data. [03:12] * r00tintheb0x wipes brow. [03:13] 1.81 terabytes of data. [03:13] And, im getting these messages too. [03:13] May 16 20:37:36 nas-node1 smartd[3687]: Device: /dev/hda, 2 Currently unreadable (pending) sectors [03:13] May 16 21:07:36 nas-node1 smartd[3687]: Device: /dev/hda, 2 Currently unreadable (pending) sectors [03:14] Anyone know what those are about... drive just going bad? [03:16] Ike? [03:17] Dwight D. Eisenhower, I assume. [03:17] Somewhat better known than if he'd said "Dief". [03:19] huh? [03:19] Yeah, Ike. [03:19] Hurricane Ike... [03:19] Im from Houston. I had to move 15 servers from one location to another. [03:19] Never got HA/DRBD reconfigured... until tolday. [03:20] our two NAS boxes are syncing again, nas-node1 to nas-node2 right now. [03:22] /dev/drbd0 1.8T 972G 769G 56% /data [03:22] That would have been a lot of data to lose. [03:28] ahh. see, we haven't had a hurricane since the dinosaur era. so I thought of Eisenhower. [03:34] I only know about monsoons. [03:34] I thought Ike was a foreign abbreviation for a month or day name, like "Lun" for Monday. [03:48] Yeah... [03:48] But like I was saying, its nice to have DRBD syncing. [03:48] Next is an Oracle 10G DB HA. [03:49] Not too sure now im going to keep the databases in sync. [03:49] I guess with a dump and restore. === r00tintheb0x__ is now known as r00tintheb0x [04:25] could anybody tell me what how passwords are encrypt in ubuntu/mysql [04:27] TimReichhart: well, Ubuntu as an OS uses /etc/shadow, and I think they're either MD5 or SHA-1 hashes. Not sure about MySQL. [04:28] well I know MD5 passwords is not working on mysql with roundcube [04:28] so im trying to figure out what type of MD5 its using [04:29] lets say this is regluar MD5 password of 7b9f9e7f9eb41cbea2d1 and that password doesnt work but if I use this: tJhggTSs3Dotw it works just fine [04:33] so any ideas? [04:41] TimReichhart: Why do you care exactly how MySQL encodes its passwords? Are you hoping to crack them??? as long as whatever it encodes them into is in a form that fits in the mysql database field for that password hash, you shouldn't need to care exactly how it was encoded... [04:42] well is because I am trying to make a page so I can add users to my database [04:42] Users do not care that md5 is being used... [04:43] They type in a userbname and pw, you let the app encode it however it wants and store it... [04:43] listen I tried it with MD5 it doesnt work [04:43] trust me [04:44] OK. If you say so. I run Roundcube on a server with about 1000 users, and it does work... :) [04:44] ok but are you using mysql to handle roundcube? [04:44] is your postfix on mysql? and is ur dovecot on mysql? [04:46] well jmarsden im asking u a question are you going to answer back? [04:49] jmarsden im still waiting on your answer [05:02] TimReichhart: Yes and Yes. I am marked as being away for a reason... I'm about to have to drive 140+ miles round trip... (supposed to leave 2 minutes ago) ... I can't really deal with this in detail now! [05:03] well then dont say its going to work with out giving your answer [05:09] TimReichhart: this is community support, no need to demand things [05:09] well I dont except somebody to tell me its going to work when I just said it doesnt [05:10] well you may have different situations [05:10] roundcube is opensource, so look at its code to see how its encoding the passwords [05:10] it might be using a salt [05:10] or a double-md5 [05:11] this channel also isn't #roundcube so ... [05:11] see anytime I try to put anything to this script i get this Warning: hash() [function.hash]: Unknown hashing algorithm: double-md5 in /var/www/index.php on line 28 [05:12] that channel does exist, you might want to ask about that there [05:12] TimReichhart: hahahaha [05:12] only thing that works is md5 [08:26] hi trying to do localnet boot reading help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet and as guided by CarlFK... am trying with dhcp3-server and tftp the package tftp failed as i got error that tftp-server can [08:27] can't have tsize option.. [08:27] now so i changed to tftp-hpa. but it isn't working:( [08:28] have configued /etc/default/tftp-hpa as per that doc and added "tftp dgram udp wait nobody /usr/sbin/tcpd in.tftpd /tftpboot" to /etc/inetd.conf .. no idea whats going wrong.. [08:29] and tried restarting /etc/init.d/xinetd and /etc/init.d/tftp-hda but all results in "tftp open time out"(on net boot client) "transfer timed out"(on doing "tftp localhost") [08:32] anyone free? [08:50] * shyam going for a restart.. [09:21] New bug: #377518 in samba (main) "Samba exits when client connects" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/377518 [09:23] now tftp problem is solved.. it boot to busybox ash shell with (initramfs) prompt [09:23] what next? [09:25] am trying it a bit twisted way.. i am trying to use a live cd with casper directory having filesystem.squashfs and things .. would that be a problem that its a live cd not an alternate cd? [10:38] as i try to net boot its stuck at (initramfs) and as i type exit there, it says cp:unable to open /root/var/log/ no such file or dicretory and /root/dev but i donno how did that /root/ got in additionally.. [10:38] i.e it should be looking at /var/log instead of /root right? [11:06] now it says "target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init" [11:06] as i exit from initramfs prompt [13:22] New bug: #377571 in postfix (main) "package postfix 2.5.5-1.1 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/377571 [13:43] can someone please point me to the instructions for setting up a software RAID on ubuntu? [13:43] (technically a mirror) [13:46] w8tah-LT: during install, or post-install? === giovani3 is now known as giovani2 [13:47] during install [13:47] well the options are there in the installer [13:47] let me see if I can find a little guide or some screenshots [13:48] http://advosys.ca/viewpoints/2007/04/setting-up-software-raid-in-ubuntu-server/ [13:48] you just create the raid devices on the physical drive [13:48] and then create the partitions on the raid device [13:49] thanks [14:04] I have problem with libnss-ldap I have overide the default ccache location in ldap.conf but nothing is happen they search the ticket in /tmp/krb5cc_o I use ubuntu 9.04 [14:06] under debian 5.0 I have no problems === ejat is now known as e-jat === MohammadBoozary is now known as Mohammad[B] === hessml|away is now known as hessml|away|away === hessml|away|away is now known as hessml|away [17:26] Hiya. Can i directly upgrade 8.04 LTS to 9.04? [17:27] no [17:29] ive got a server with a possibly corrupted disk as part of a LVM group -- i have been trying to check it - -and not having much success -- can someone please help me? [17:30] W8TAH: what specifically have you not been having success with? [17:30] im currently booted from a live cd -- trying to use fsck but its complaing [17:30] and not giving me any results [17:31] says it cant find fsck.lvm2pv [17:31] ive got e2fstools installed [17:32] e2fs is for ext partitions [17:32] lvm is defintiely not ext [17:32] ok [17:32] what should i be using to work on it then? === hessml|away is now known as hessml|away|away [17:32] well it depends on what's corrupted [17:33] is it the LVM partition that's corrupted or the extX partition on top of LVM that's corrupted? [17:33] and what commands did you execute that failed? [17:34] its a samba file server - we cant get get to the data on thats on the lvm [17:34] but - the /partition boots with no problems [17:34] so i know that disk (sda) is ok [17:34] when its running the console has all kinds of disk errors scrolling across it === hessml|away|away is now known as hessml|away [17:35] that sounds like the disk is not ok [17:35] just because some areas of the disk are fine, doesn't mean others are bad [17:35] err, doesn't mean others aren't bad* [17:35] are your drives SMART-compatible? [17:35] yes [17:36] have you run SMART checks on them? [17:36] i ran the long check -- it took 160 minutes and hasnt told me anything -- i let it run overnight - and no data was on the screen when i came back [17:36] long checks can take a while [17:37] how about the short tests? [17:37] again -- i ran one - -took 2 minutes -- and no data output -- i think maybe i dont know how to make it tell me what it finds [17:40] ok -- i found how to get the output -- [17:40] its says in both tests -- read failure [17:41] can you paste the command you ran, and the output to a pastebin? [17:41] that'd be clearer for me to understand [17:42] unfortunatly no -- the machine is across the room running on a live cd, so i cannot ssh in etc [17:42] you can't ssh out from it? [17:42] or scp it out [17:43] a read error is not a good sign [17:43] but I'd need to see the context [17:43] i tried to ssh in and it wants a password [17:43] which doesnt exist [17:43] because its live cd [17:43] unless i shouldnt be using live cd [17:43] I just meant from the livecd box [17:43] output the smartctl command and output to a file [17:43] oh - -let me see [17:44] and then scp that file to another box on the network [17:44] ok -- one min [17:44] where you can then pastebin from [17:44] or access the internet directly from the livecd [17:44] might be able to do that - -hang on a sec [17:46] http://pastebin.ca/1425577 [17:49] the command is sudo smartctl -t short /dev/hdb [17:49] well read failures during self tests are signs that the drive has bad sectors and/or is failing [17:49] or that you stopped the test somehow [17:49] i didnt stop the test [17:49] ok [17:49] then it sounds like the drive may be going bad [17:49] ok - is there any way to grab whatever data off it that i can [17:50] is the filesystem unmountable? [17:50] if the data is critical, I'd recommend using dd to make a perfect bit-for-bit copy of the drive as it is -- which you can then work on repairing, etc for the data later [17:50] its not critical [17:51] its student projects for my 4-8th grade classes [17:51] id LIKE to recover it if feasible [17:51] i had a faliure in my backup chain [17:51] so i dont have recent backups [17:51] ok [17:51] well if the filesystem is unmountable, you can continue to try to fsck it [17:51] but, if possible, it's best to use dd to make a bit-for-bit copy of the drive [17:52] ok - how do i do that? [17:52] then if you do something bad to the filesystem, or the drive fails further, you have a copy of it [17:52] how big is the drive? [17:52] 250 gb [17:52] how much of it has data on it? [17:52] not much -- maybe 20gb at the very outside [17:52] ok [17:53] do you have another drive somewhere that you can plug into the system? [17:53] yes [17:53] external, or internal -- or a fast network connection and a fileserver? [17:53] ive got a 150gb drive in an enclosure [17:53] that i can plug in via usb [17:53] ok, plug that in and mount it [17:53] I presume it has a good amount of free space on it? [17:53] compltely empty [17:53] great [17:54] boot into server or keep working from the live cd? [17:54] stay on the livecd [17:54] ok - [17:54] gimme a min -- i need to install the drive etc [17:54] ok [17:56] now you said you had LVM on this drive, are you using LVM to span filesystems across multiple drives? [17:57] yes === hessml|away is now known as hessmll [18:03] ok -- ive got the external drive mounted -- [18:03] never used dd before [18:03] the manpage doesnt quite seem to indicate what to do [18:05] ok, well this is much more complex since you're using lvm, particularly with multiple drives [18:05] because the data is disparate, potentially [18:05] i was kinda afraid of that [18:05] when it gets rebuilt it will be raid [18:05] how many drives are in the LVM Volume Group? [18:05] 2 [18:05] 2 physical [18:05] ok, well I'd image both of them to be safe, I suppose [18:05] makes sense to me [18:06] dd if=/dev/sdX | gzip -9 > /your/usb/volume/here/drive1.dd [18:06] that'll copy every bit dd can off of the drive, and then compress it all [18:06] ok - -cool [18:06] do that to both? [18:07] yes, but hold on one sec while I look something up [18:07] ok [18:07] thanks [18:10] let's do a `dd if=/dev/sdX conv=noerror,sync | gzip -9 > /your/usb/volume/here/drive1.dd [18:10] ok [18:10] there will be -some- data loss, obviously, where the drive has bad sectors [18:10] so we're trying to maximize what can be saved [18:10] include the accent mark b4 dd? [18:10] ok [18:10] no, no accent mark, sorry [18:10] ok [18:11] anyone with email server? [18:11] wizardslovak: plenty of us, yes [18:12] ok is there way i can check if i got imap installed? [18:12] wizardslovak: imap being a protocol, and not a specific server/daemon/application, no [18:12] i am trying to figure out why i cant loggin on squirrelmail [18:12] did you install an imap server? [18:13] giovani2: ok -- its running [18:13] W8TAH: ok [18:14] yes i installed it [18:14] wizardslovak: WHICH one? [18:17] giovani2: its running -- its showing progress (200mb copied so far) but also showing a bunch of I/O errors [18:17] W8TAH: yep ... that'll happen [18:17] ok [18:17] cool [18:17] your drive is dying -- we're saving what we can [18:17] kewl [18:17] thanks [18:18] hey all [18:18] which one is better 8.04 or 9.04 server? [18:19] thewrathjr: "better" is all relative -- 9.04 is recently released [18:19] true [18:19] are most users still using hte lts release [18:19] honestly, I don't know what percentage of people use which [18:19] I run the latest, when possible [18:19] ok [18:19] what do you use giovani2 [18:19] ^ [18:20] oh ok [18:20] giovani2, sorry i didnt see that [18:20] lol [18:20] which means a few of my servers run 8.10 [18:20] and a few run 9.04 [18:20] depending on when I installed them [18:20] thewrathjr: id go for the LTS [18:20] i try to keep my servers on the LTS release [18:21] i upgraded from 8.10 to 9.04 [18:21] i am newbie in it anyways [18:21] wizardslovak: ok, you still haven't told me what imap server you installed [18:22] i cant find it [18:22] i think courier [18:22] ok, is courier running? [18:22] ps aux | grep -i courier [18:23] k [18:23] ok [18:24] what do you guys runon ur servers? [18:24] http://pastebin.com/m632c1b1b [18:25] thewrathjr: os lol you? [18:25] thewrathjr: you'd have to be more specific than that [18:25] yes [18:25] like what services? [18:25] thewrathjr: too many to count [18:25] can you say some? [18:26] LAMP [18:26] giovani2: check pastebin [18:26] lighttpd, postfix, dovecot, opensshd, apache, openradius [18:26] wizardslovak: ok, so, some part of courier is running, not sure if that's just the auth setup [18:26] wahts the difference btween lighthttpd and apache [18:26] and what is openradious [18:27] thewrathjr: LAMP and samba here [18:27] giovani2: what are you using for checking mail on postfix? [18:27] thewrathjr: too numerous to count -- lighttpd is tons smaller, and faster for certain jobs [18:27] ok [18:27] wizardslovak: what do you mean "checking mail"? [18:27] thewrathjr: openradius is a RADIUS server -- a large topic -- google it [18:27] wahts no numerous? [18:27] oh nvm [18:27] what is Openradius? [18:28] thewrathjr: openradius is a RADIUS server -- a large topic -- google it [18:28] wizardslovak: sudo /etc/init.d/courier-imap start [18:28] ok well something like squirrelmail ,so i can check email true web browser [18:28] wizardslovak: I don't use webmail, it's horrible [18:28] but when I did -- I used roundcube, and horde/imp [18:29] how to check email then? [18:29] shell [18:29] uh ... using a mail application [18:29] like kmail, or outlook, or thunderbird, or mutt, or pine [18:30] ooo [18:30] giovani [18:30] giovani2: "no such file or directory" [18:31] wizardslovak: sounds like you don't have courier installed then [18:31] ok so i need imap [18:31] sudo apt-get install courier-imap [18:31] imap is a protocol [18:31] you don't "have/get/need" it [18:31] you need an -imap server- [18:31] yes i need it for squirelmail [18:31] sigh [18:33] giovani2: i am newbie [18:33] so i might sometimes ask too many question [18:33] s [18:33] you're just not listening to me [18:33] imap is a protocol, you need an IMAP SERVER [18:33] ok i installed courier imap [18:33] courier-imap is an imap server [18:33] what is Openradius? [18:33] ok thank you [18:33] thewrathjr: I've answered that question TWICE now [18:33] i got it installed [18:34] thewrathjr: openradius is a RADIUS server -- a large topic -- google it [18:34] giovani2: is this data copy likely to be a lengthy process? [18:34] W8TAH: yes [18:35] ok -- i'll come back later and start it on the other disk -- will you be around tomorrow during the workday (eastern time?) [18:35] W8TAH: not for extended periods of time -- when I'm at work I'm usually pretty busy for IRC [18:35] but I'll try and log in [18:35] anyone knows what it means in htop when it displays "nan" for the usage of a core? can't be good [18:36] ok -- not much sense in me sitting here at work watching things scroll up the screen [18:36] hello [18:36] yann2: that typically stands for "not a number" [18:36] yann2: could be a programming bug, or a problem with your setup [18:36] does top display things properly? [18:36] the server is behaving extremely weirdly [18:36] but i'll let it run and come back and start the sda copy running [18:36] I got "cpu stuck for 10 secs" in logs [18:36] i'm trying to intall sinit but it can't find it [18:36] yann2: sounds like either a defective mb/cpu/powersupply, or a bad kernel/driver [18:37] what mail server do u guys urn? [18:37] thewrathjr: postfix and dovecot [18:37] googlemail for small business [18:37] anyon ever used or tested horde [18:37] thewrathjr: yes [18:37] and... [18:38] and what? [18:38] i'll try to hook up with u tomorrow giovani2 [18:38] why didnt u like it [18:38] asumming u didnt since u dont run it [18:38] thewrathjr: it's written in PHP, it's ugly, and is just poorly designed [18:38] I hate webmail in general [18:38] you like using outlook'thunderbird? [18:39] I like using real mail clients [18:39] I prefer kmail [18:39] I hate thunderbird [18:39] but at work we support outlook/thunderbird/pine/mutt [18:40] i like to use them too , but sometimes i want to check mail from other PC [18:41] so its good to have webmail [18:41] yeah, I wouldn't check my mail from someone else's computer [18:42] well i dont think my friend is capable to use info in emails to harm me in any way lol [18:42] that wasn't the reason [18:42] but ok [18:43] giovani2: if you have time can you help me with setting kmail ? [18:43] wizardslovak: nope, that's completely out of the scope of #ubuntu-server [18:43] kmail is desktop software [18:43] lol ok [18:43] so just imap-sourier setttings [18:44] courier-imap [18:44] yeah, and not even those -- I don't know how to configure courier-imap [18:45] but dovecot you can? [18:45] yes [18:45] ok [18:46] so to install it how does package called?, tried dovecot "package dovecot is not available" [18:47] dovecot-common? [18:48] heh, what mail server are you using? [18:48] postfix [18:48] what release of ubuntu? [18:48] 9.04 [18:49] dovecot-postfix is supposed to be the all-in-one package [18:49] but I have no idea if it's functional [18:49] never used it [18:49] it's new in 9.04 [18:50] well i know i didnt install dovecot [18:50] so i gotta get it first [18:54] ok i got dovecto installed [18:55] how to test it? how to configure it? [19:10] l [19:11] I'm trying to intall sinit but it can't find it [19:12] hi [19:12] I'm trying to intall sinit but it can't find it? [19:20] hello? [19:22] how can i find in which group my user is in? [19:30] I'm useing the server ver. I'm trying to intall sinit but it can't find it. [19:40] "telnet localhost imap2" unable to connect" what should i do ? [19:40] why it doexnt want to connect? [19:46] i cannot connect to myself [19:50] wizardslovak: please read here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1969726 and follow the links in there, after reading that we can try to help you [19:50] ok i got it work [19:50] ok [19:50] thank you [19:50] i'm hing troble geting xinit to run [19:51] "telnet localhost imap2" unable to connect [19:51]