| Svenstaro | Guys, you know what, there are so many questiosn for Edubunu development, I must just go ahead and create my own Education distro now and everybody who wants to can join in. | 01:35 |
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| nubae | greets Lns, alkisg | 16:18 |
| alkisg | Hey nubae, what's up? :) | 16:18 |
| nubae | highvoltage too :-) | 16:18 |
| nubae | ah, just came back from Sugar Camp | 16:18 |
| nubae | in Paris | 16:19 |
| nubae | it was an amazing experience | 16:19 |
| nubae | so much wonderful enthusiasm and energy | 16:19 |
| nubae | if we could do something like that for edubuntu, it would really drive the community up again | 16:19 |
| highvoltage | hey nubae | 16:20 |
| highvoltage | nubae: awesome, we will certainly ahve to take you up on that | 16:20 |
| alkisg | I don't think it's enthusiasm that edubuntu lacks, but specific goals... :( | 16:20 |
| alkisg | I'd be happy to help/contribute however I can if it became a distro again. | 16:21 |
| nubae | alkisg: I hear u | 16:23 |
| nubae | as u know, I've been using opensuse-edu, and to be honest, at this point its run circles around edubuntu | 16:23 |
| nubae | sadly | 16:23 |
| nubae | and in every possible way too | 16:23 |
| nubae | I mean, sugar doesnt even run on ubuntu anymore... on opensuse, not only does it run, but every activitiy works and is packaged | 16:24 |
| alkisg | Yeah... and I love their live dvd | 16:24 |
| nubae | by the way, if u are interested, we are having a meeting in #sugar concerning what we're doing on opensuse in about 6 minutes | 16:25 |
| alkisg | It even has scratch and kde_edu apps on it... If edubuntu was something similar, many people would be using it | 16:25 |
| alkisg | I'm not really familiar with sugar... I'll come just to have a look :) | 16:25 |
| nubae | yes indeed, and its got total nomad, AOE support, Sugar support, tons of edu apps, LDAP in very few steps, pretty much every service gui'd and working | 16:26 |
| nubae | its just a delight to work with | 16:26 |
| nubae | if it had deb packages it would be perfect | 16:27 |
| alkisg | Have you put it in any "producation" sites? | 16:27 |
| alkisg | *production | 16:27 |
| nubae | I'm on that at the moment... from the Sugar side especially, since thats my focus | 16:27 |
| nubae | u should really check it out | 16:27 |
| nubae | download the Sugar Suse CD | 16:27 |
| nubae | or start it straight from the DVD | 16:28 |
| nubae | its an icon on the desktop | 16:28 |
| alkisg | It's not easy for me to switch, because I'm in charge of writing a manual about ubuntu/ltsp for all greek teachers, so that would mean changing what we advice them | 16:28 |
| nubae | for kids it excellent | 16:28 |
| nubae | well, take a look at sugar | 16:28 |
| nubae | that might make it more agnostic | 16:28 |
| alkisg | I'd really like for edubuntu to become something similar, so we could continue working with ubuntu as a base | 16:28 |
| nubae | its really really improved and its amazingly cool to have collaboration working to that extent | 16:29 |
| nubae | yeah well... unless there's a fork, I dont see it happening, we just dont have a community anymore | 16:29 |
| alkisg | I think if someones picks it up and goes in that direction, others will follow. | 16:29 |
| alkisg | Of course if noone does, it'll just die... | 16:30 |
| nubae | well like u know, Laserjock has done all the work for Jaunty edubuntu, even the web page write ups, I just published it... | 16:31 |
| nubae | unless that changes drastically, its gonna die in the next release | 16:31 |
| nubae | I dont see laserjock doing this for fun for ever if its just him alone | 16:31 |
| m0r0n | Hey | 17:36 |
| m0r0n | Anyone willing to help me out on uninstalling Ubuntu, or helping me fix something so I don't have to | 17:36 |
| nubae | well, ubuntu is more of an #ubuntu thing | 17:38 |
| nubae | now if u have #edubuntu installed, then u're in the right place :-) | 17:38 |
| m0r0n | ty | 17:43 |
| bencrisford_ | highvoltage: hi | 17:54 |
| highvoltage | hi again bencrisford_ | 17:55 |
| * bencrisford_ is desperate to help :D | 17:55 | |
| highvoltage | I saw your e-mail, thanks! | 17:55 |
| bencrisford_ | how can i contribute d'ya think? | 17:55 |
| highvoltage | how's your documentation skills? | 17:57 |
| bencrisford_ | pretty neat | 17:57 |
| bencrisford_ | ive done docbook for spux project | 17:57 |
| bencrisford_ | and html | 17:57 |
| bencrisford_ | http://trac.spuxproject.net/trac/spux/browser/trunk/Other/Docs/trunk/spux.xml | 17:59 |
| nubae | u know we also need to update the applicactions page on the edubuntu site for Jaunty | 18:00 |
| bencrisford_ | hmm, well i was hoping to leave the whole documentation area, because ive done alot | 18:01 |
| bencrisford_ | but im happy to help with it | 18:01 |
| bencrisford_ | when i say leave i mean do other things also | 18:02 |
| nubae | well u should talk to Laserjock | 18:02 |
| bencrisford_ | my main experience is with graphics, web devel, and docs | 18:02 |
| bencrisford_ | nubae: i saw he was the one to talk to through launchpad | 18:03 |
| bencrisford_ | but he hasnt been on at the same time as me | 18:03 |
| nubae | well, u're more likely to catch him via email these days | 18:04 |
| nubae | and he might make an appearance when u suggest a set date/time | 18:04 |
| bencrisford_ | ah ok | 18:04 |
| bencrisford_ | i sent to the mailing list | 18:04 |
| nubae | there hasnt been a edubuntu development meeting in a really long time | 18:04 |
| bencrisford_ | so he might see that | 18:04 |
| nubae | but there should be | 18:04 |
| nubae | yes I saw | 18:04 |
| nubae | to be honest, I don't really know what to tell you, but there is an incredible amount of work to do... our community is a little in tatters at the moment | 18:05 |
| nubae | it could really do with some new blood to push people's spirits back up | 18:05 |
| bencrisford_ | hmm | 18:06 |
| bencrisford_ | well i would suggest just a meeting for all areas of development | 18:07 |
| bencrisford_ | just to make sure we hear everyones ideas | 18:07 |
| nubae | yeah | 18:07 |
| bencrisford_ | and if we advertise the meeting a bit | 18:07 |
| bencrisford_ | get some fresh people in | 18:07 |
| bencrisford_ | then have meetings for sub-groups | 18:07 |
| nubae | well push laserjock a bit... tell him u're really serious and u'd like a meeting, and I'm sure it will help | 18:07 |
| highvoltage | bencrisford_: sorry, my internet connection keeps dropping | 18:10 |
| highvoltage | bencrisford_: I see you mention web skills, if you'd like to work on the website, that would also help a lot | 18:11 |
| bencrisford_ | ill do whatever, but I would love that | 18:11 |
| nubae | highvoltage: I think there needs to be some specifics... some page that shows what needs to be done | 18:12 |
| nubae | something like trac even | 18:12 |
| highvoltage | nubae: yes, you're right | 18:12 |
| nubae | I dunno | 18:12 |
| highvoltage | I like trac a lot, not sure how that will go down with everyone | 18:12 |
| bencrisford_ | we could use launchpad though | 18:12 |
| bencrisford_ | that would be more appropriate ? | 18:12 |
| highvoltage | probably, but it's just so big | 18:13 |
| nubae | yeah | 18:13 |
| nubae | trac is very specific | 18:13 |
| bencrisford_ | well ubuntu is done via launchpad | 18:13 |
| nubae | to just bug/features | 18:13 |
| bencrisford_ | people would search for edubuntu on launchpad | 18:13 |
| bencrisford_ | blueprints resemble tickets in trac i believe | 18:13 |
| nubae | well, not if its mentioned on the edubuntu page | 18:13 |
| nubae | edubuntu is independent enough at this point to use trac, I just dont think ubuntu would host it | 18:14 |
| highvoltage | trac is easy to host though | 18:19 |
| nubae | yep | 18:22 |
| bencrisford_ | sorry, my internet is REALLY faulty | 18:41 |
| bencrisford_ | highvoltage - as I was saying, i would love to help with the website if you need me to :) | 18:41 |
| bencrisford__ | anyone here? :) | 19:15 |
| Lns | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/5343111/Ball-and-chain-to-force-children-to-study.html - ....Can we safely assume that some people are just completely insane?? | 20:36 |
| alkisg | Yeah, that's too harsh for study... but I could use it to make my younger daughter eat all of her food :) | 20:37 |
| Lns | alkisg: =p~~ | 20:39 |
| Lns | I mean, wow. If that is really a serious product, i have my doubts about humanity, heh | 20:39 |
| bencrisford_ | lol | 20:49 |
| bencrisford_ | well it might help me study | 20:49 |
| bencrisford_ | but i could lift 21kg | 20:49 |
| bencrisford_ | if it was maths | 20:49 |
| bencrisford_ | i would definately be motivated to walk off with it | 20:49 |
| Lns | The mental impact of using something like that would likely curb any motivation to study in the future, I'd think ("Hmm, I could study, ...wait...heavy ball tied to my leg....no, I think I'll go do something fun") | 21:01 |
| bencrisford_ | lol yeah i agree | 21:03 |
| bencrisford_ | hmm, if it caught on we could use it to market edubuntu | 21:03 |
| bencrisford_ | a picture of a kid studying with the ball/chain | 21:04 |
| bencrisford_ | then a cross through it | 21:04 |
| bencrisford_ | and a picture of him having a ton of fun on edubuntu :P | 21:04 |
| bencrisford_ | brb | 21:04 |
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