/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/05/18/#kubuntu.txt

ign0ramusjoshjtl, you can install amarok 1.4 on jaunty if you'd like00:00
ign0ramusjoshjtl, imho, amarok 2 just isn't ready00:00
joshjtlign0ramus: I feel the same way00:00
joshjtlfeels like its taking a while to get ready too00:00
ign0ramusjoshjtl, you have to add a PPA- it's not in the regular repos00:00
AriathaxxI need an OS that lasts a little longer hehe00:00
Jadohi, i've just installed kubuntu 9.04 on a new laptop but i can't start a graphic session i got : "kstartupconfig4 does not exist or fails. The error code is 3. Check your installation"00:01
Jadothe problem seems to come from from the fact that my home is encrypted00:02
marcox25are there any news about kde 4.3 beta 1 for kubuntu 9.04?00:03
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Mindblade16hello everyone00:04
yoshiyhi00:04
ign0ramusJado, do you have "kdebase-workspace" installed?00:04
ign0ramusmarcox25, you just asked about this ... please read the topics, check kde.org, and the kubuntu web site00:05
Jadoit seems not ign0ramus00:05
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ign0ramusJado, most likely your issue :)00:05
Jadook thanks00:05
ign0ramusnp00:05
Jadoi'll have to leave internet from this computer to connect to the computer which has the issue ; i'll come again later and tell you if that's fixed00:06
ign0ramusJado, k np00:06
Mindblade16I was curious about something. KDevelop C/C++ Hello World doesn't seem to work00:06
carpiihuh?00:07
Mindblade16I want to write in C, but the compiler doesnt work right00:07
carpii'doesnt work right'?00:07
Mindblade16For Example: I set the complier to create a new program called "Hello World". It didnt work even though it was an automatic program00:09
Mindblade16I know I'm doing something wrong. It can't be the compiler00:10
* carpii shrugs. you need to learn how to ask a proper question00:10
Mindblade16ok then00:10
Allydedeits a other alternativ app as the kooldock for amd6400:12
Mindblade16the KDevelop C/C++ compiler gives me this message when I compile the "Simple Hello World" program: *** Exited with status: 2 ***00:14
carpiimindblade, compile it from commandline before you try using gui tools00:17
Mindblade16ok. thanks00:18
jadoign0ramus: hi it's Jado ; i've tried and intalled kdebase-workspace but i still have the same error. What i don't understand is that the file is in /usr/bin and this path is in the variable $PATH so it should find it.00:22
ign0ramusjado, that's correct.  i wonder if your permissions are borked...?00:22
jadoi've tried 777 but that won't do a thing00:22
jadohow can i disable the encryption of the home ?00:23
jadoif i try ecryptfs-mount-private i got "Encrypted Private is not setup properly" What should i do ?00:24
ign0ramusjado, i don't know much about encryption00:24
ign0ramusjado, try to sort that out, and also see here : http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3101650.000:24
jadothanks00:25
ign0ramusjado, np00:26
estevanattostevanatto00:27
jadois it safe to write sudo apt-get remove --purge kde && sudo apt-get install kde ?00:30
marcox25why resizing widgets it's not done ina smoooth way,, ? it's a video card driver problem? or is Qt/kde problem?00:31
ign0ramusjado, i would say "yes", but i'm not 100% sure00:32
jadolet's go :)00:32
ign0ramusjado, as long as it doesn't affect your networking, you should be able to install any packages00:33
ign0ramusjado, i like that attitude!00:33
jadokde is not installed, so not removed :(00:33
jadoif kde is not installed then how the hell is "he" trying to open a graphic session ??00:34
yoshiymaybe "kdebase" ? :/00:34
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jadokdebase is not installed, so not removed :(00:34
mahmoodHello00:35
mahmoodi am looking for yahoo messenger on Kubuntu 9.0400:35
marcox25why resizing widgets it's not done ina smoooth way,, ? it's a video card driver problem? or is Qt/kde problem?00:35
jadoso what's with the login window that i have on the xserver ? what should i do ? sudo apt-get intall kde ??00:35
jadowell i don't have anything to lose ..00:36
Mindblade16Ok, I was wondering what program I should use to program C in command line. I'm using Ubuntu.00:36
jadoMindblade16: you can try 'emacs -nw'00:37
Allydedehave anyone a link to a ksmoothdock for amd64?00:37
jadodamn it ; i've tried sudo apt-get install kde but i still have the same problem00:39
marcox25why resizing widgets it's not done ina smoooth way,, ? it's a video card driver problem? or is Qt/kde problem?00:40
marcox25what things?salgo en 5 min00:43
jadoi'll just try with gnome00:45
marcox25gnoem sucks00:45
jadook but kde is not working :(00:45
ign0ramusjado, do you have "kdm" installed?00:45
jadoi think so ; if kdm was not installed i shouldn't see a login screen00:46
Mindblade16thank you jado, I'll look that up00:46
jadoMindblade16: but why do you want to program with command line and not in a graphical window ?00:47
Mindblade16I do want to use a GUI. I'm going to be taking a college class in C. I have KDevelop as a compiler, but for some reason I can't get it to compile the simplest program00:49
jadotry to compile with 'gcc' ?00:49
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Mindblade16is gcc available through Ubuntu?00:50
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jadoif you open a terminal you should be able to use it ; if you can't just intall it with 'sudo apt-get install gcc', i gues00:50
Mindblade16I'll look it up. thanks00:51
jadonp00:52
Mindblade16Ah! I found the terminal! I'mma bit new to ubuntu, so excuse me00:55
jadowhat were you using before ?00:57
Mindblade16windows vista00:57
jadook00:57
Mindblade16culture shock, lol00:58
jado:D can you compile a simple .c file ?00:58
Mindblade16not from command line. I guess I should learn that first. I've only ever used GUIs for programming. except for QBASIC00:59
jadoyou just write your .c file somewhere with some text editor01:00
jadothen you go with the terminal in the folder of the .c file (with the command cd (change directory))01:00
jadothen you write gcc yourfile.c -o outputname01:01
Mindblade16I have the terminal open, so I'll try that01:01
Mindblade16it says no input files01:02
jadothat means you're not in the right directory01:03
jadoor that the name of the file you entered is wrong01:03
jadotype 'ls' to make sure that your .c file is there01:03
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Mindblade16I think I'm getting the hang of it now01:05
funghow can I set my default file manager, for programs like firefox, to be dolphin? it seems like nautilus keeps popping up?01:05
Mindblade16thanks01:05
jadonp01:06
jadogtg bye01:07
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claudio-tuxhi02:31
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Guest36596what is this?02:56
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DragnslcrThis is the IRC support channel for Kubuntu02:57
martin_anyone familiar with installing phpmyadmin03:10
Nikkemartin_: i did it last night03:11
Nikkeon my ubuntu server03:11
martin_i did the sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin, it seemed to install fine, but localhost/phpmyadmin doesn't display anything03:12
martin_i copied the /var/www files to localhost/public_html pulled up the index.php but there are all kinds of errors03:12
Nikketry http://localhost/phpMyAdmin03:12
martin_yeah, doesn't work03:12
Nikkemartin_: hmm you shouldn move phpmyadmin dir03:13
martin_yeah, just a desperate attempt to get it working03:13
martin_where did it create files on your system?03:13
Nikkehehe03:13
Nikkehmm hold on one sec03:13
Nikkehmm not in /var/www03:14
Nikkedont know03:14
Nikkeit just worked :)03:14
Nikkei just know that you shouldnt move the phpmyadmin/ dir03:14
martin_hehe, seems most people don't have a problem with it, can't say i expected to either, not with this, figured apache installation would go horribly wrong03:15
Nikkewhere is your dir now?03:16
martin_ummm, /var/www   /home/martin/public_html   and /usr/share/phpmyadmin03:16
martin_i know, don't laugh03:16
Nikke:O03:17
Nikkedid you move it to /var/www ?03:17
martin_yeah03:17
martin_it was in /usr/share/phpmyadmin03:17
martin_but didn't do anything03:18
martin_do i need to edit apache2.conf to tell it to look in /usr/share????03:18
Nikkehmm03:18
martin_i saw somewhere you might have to add an "include" in apache2.conf03:19
Nikkeyou know what.. im sorry but i think you might get lucky in #ubuntu03:19
Nikkeahhh03:19
Nikkewait03:19
Nikkei can check03:19
Nikkedelete /var/www/phpmyadmin and /home/*/public_html/phpmyadmin03:19
martin_k03:19
Nikkeand i check my apache2.conf03:19
DragnslcrCheck /etc/apache2/sites-enabled to see what directoy there are virtual hosts for03:19
martin_k03:20
martin_what exactly do i look for as far as virtual hosts03:20
DragnslcrIf you haven't changed anything, I think the only file should be 000-default03:20
Nikkedo you have /etc/apache2/conf.d/phpmyadmin.conf03:20
DragnslcrAnd it should have /var/www as the DocumentRoot03:20
Nikkei got that03:21
martin_no03:21
Nikkei can paste it for you03:21
Nikkemartin_: http://www.pastie.org/48117303:21
martin_Dragnslcr all i have is 000-default03:21
Nikkethats my /etc/apache2/conf.d/phpmyadmin.conf03:22
Dragnslcrmartin_- what's the DocumentRoot line in that file?03:22
martin_var/www03:22
martin_does that mean that if my phpmyadmin is in /var/www then it should work03:23
Nikkevar/www or /var/www03:23
Dragnslcrmartin_- yup03:23
Nikkemartin_: its symlinked03:23
martin_--- /var/www03:23
NikkeDragnslcr: the phpmyadmin dir is symlinked from /usr/share/phpmyadmin03:23
Nikkeon my install03:23
Nikkeand i did it last night03:23
DragnslcrThat would work too03:23
martin_I keep hearing that, what does that mean?03:23
Nikkesymlinked?03:24
Dragnslcrmartin_- what files/directories are in /var/www ?03:24
martin_yeah03:24
martin_a phpmyadmin directory and apache's index.html03:24
martin_u cp'd the phpmyadmin dir there though03:24
Nikkemartin_: symlinked is when you.. hmmf, dont know how to explain but, creates a link from /usr/share/phpmyadmin to /var/www/phpmyadmin03:24
martin_sorry, new to linxu03:25
martin_linux03:25
Dragnslcrmartin_- what do you get when you go to http://localhost/phpmyadmin ?03:25
martin_it pulls it up now that i copied the files however it doesn't work correctly, i have php errors and cookie erros, figured i broke it when i copied the directory to /var/www03:25
DragnslcrYou'll have to ask phpMyAdmin support about errors in their program03:26
martin_you can try it if ya want 99.52.160.147/phpmyadmin havn't changed the pwd03:27
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martin_hehe, i just restarted apache and it now it works03:28
martin_wtf03:29
martin_what does apache have to do with mysql?03:30
DragnslcrNothing directly, why?03:30
remuhey folks, I just installed KDE from the minimal iso, and i installed the dragon player03:31
remuhowever, when i try to play a video, nothing seems to happen, dragon opens up, and the slider keeps moving as if it is playing a video, but the screen in dragon is black, and there is no audio.03:31
Nikkehmm03:41
Nikkewhy do i have 3 blocked updates?03:41
NikkeThe following packages have been kept back: amarok amarok-common libgphoto2-port003:44
Nikkei got amarok installed03:44
Nikkebut i cant play mp3 files03:44
Guest43573Nikke: Did you download all the dependencies required by Amarok?03:46
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Nikkejediatnight: i installed kubuntu03:46
Nikkewhen i start amarok it says i got some updates03:46
jediatnightNikke: It could be that you have to install non-free codecs03:46
Nikkebut i cant install theese three03:46
jediatnightNikke: which version do you have now?03:47
Nikke2.0.203:47
jediatnightI was talking about Kubuntu03:47
Nikkeah03:48
Nikke9.0403:48
Nikke4.2.203:48
Nikkekde03:48
remudoes anyone know how i can get dragon player to play my videos? right now when i try to open a file it doesnt show anything and i cant hear anything, but the slider is moving.03:48
jediatnightI'm running  9.04 on kde  I can play mp3 with Amarok03:48
Nikkeblah03:48
jediatnightNikke: I don't know the reasons for your problems03:48
Nikkewhy cant i update then?03:49
jediatnightAh, now I remember...I had to install codecs for Amarok.. It prompted me to install codecs for playing music03:49
jediatnightNikke: Amarok should ask you to install codecs.. Did you install them? It would prompt you the first time.. you install codecs..03:49
Nikkejediatnight: didnt get any message03:49
jediatnightNikke: I got a prompt from Kubuntu03:50
jediatnight*from Amarok03:50
Nikkeyes when i start amarok it says amarok updates available03:50
Nikkebut when i click on that notify it says there are three blocked updates03:51
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jediatnightNikke: Can you unblock them?03:54
Nikkejediatnight: dont think that03:56
jkonatkanxhola04:01
danwill gotomypc work on ubuntu04:10
NikkeGAH!04:10
jkonatkanxholas04:10
Nikkewhen i start amarok now it told me something that i couldn play with my sb live 5.104:10
Nikkei just reinstalled amarok04:11
danI tried using it in Firefox and it says it's looking for java.04:11
ralmarHey guys, theres an app (Wondershaper, to throttle bandwidth) which I have to run with sudo. Is there anyway  I can have limited users run it or any other thing that requires sudo? Thanks04:12
Nikkeralmar: yes04:13
Nikke/etc/sudoers controlls wich users that has access to the sudo command04:13
danIS grant Bowman in here?04:13
jkonatkanxalguien que le jale al español04:15
jkonatkanxspanish04:15
danHaving trouble using GotoMyPc.com from firefox in Ubuntu...can anyone help?04:15
davidjheinrich_hi all...does anyone know how to use the "replace" command to get rid of extra spaces in filenames? (i.e., I want to replace two spaces, "  ", with one space, " ")04:20
Nikkei get this message wheni start amarok:04:24
NikkeThe audio playback device SBLive 5.1 [SB0060] (rev.7, serial:0x80611102) (ADC Capture/Standard PCM Playback) does not work. Falling back to PulseAudio.04:25
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FoxBlitzzdan: Have you installed the jre?04:28
FoxBlitzzAlso, if you need remote desktop, VNC will work fine unless you demand high performance04:29
danFox: Installing JRE now..04:38
danFOX:JRE is installed but I'm still getting "You need a Java-enabled browser to use the GoToMyPC Universal Viewer. To learn how to enable Java in your browser, see https://www.gotomypc.com/help/#the_gotomypc_viewer/universal_viewer.htm.04:45
Xcellmy updater says 4 blocked packages..which are kernel updates.. how do i clear it to allow it to update properly05:01
Nikkecan i disable that if i am at workspace 2, and opens a link that firefox wont come to workspace 2 if i have placed it on workspace 305:17
davidjheinrich_hi all, quick Q: is there any reason I should use underscores ("_") in filenames instead of spaces (" ")? also, how can I get auto-completion in bash when I start with a quote?05:19
sgroverdavidjheinrich_: spaces are a pain in the butt.  I avoid them whenever possible - makes life easy when it comes to file management...05:23
sgroverTraditionally, Unix didn't do spaces, but Windows did.  Linux followed the Unix approach.05:24
sgroverSpaces *are* do-able now-a-days, but throw a space into the file name of a web page - it'll fail miserably...05:24
sgroverhmm.. think I'll go test that just to be sure.. :)05:25
davidjheinrich_don't websites use &s or %s or something like that for spaces05:25
davidjheinrich_if u put up a file with spaces in it, the website link shows %s for the space, and it d/l's with a space...IIRC05:25
sgroverin URL parameters, sure... but in file names, I've never seen it.05:26
davidjheinrich_could u explain what u mean by "pain in the butt" for file management?05:26
wyshi everyone05:27
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sgroverk.  When you are working at the command line.  You want to delete a file called "my utterly useless file".  Problem is, that's not how the filename appears at the command line - it would need to be revised to "my\ utterly\ useless\ file".05:27
sgroverso those extra slashes slow you down.05:27
sgroverget into this enough and it is a big annoyance.05:27
sgrover(I'm ignoring tab-completion for the moment though...)05:28
davidjheinrich_yea, I use tab-completion05:28
davidjheinrich_and it just puts a \ before every space to treat it as special character05:28
t0asterjust setup a geexbox and got it serving media to my 56" flawlessly05:28
t0asterusing mediatomb upnp05:29
davidjheinrich_but, I USED to be able to use tab-completion by putting quotes at the front "file..." then press TAB and it completes...that hasn't worked with me in Ubuntu05:29
davidjheinrich_I remember the quote filename completionf rom years ago, don't know what distro or setup05:29
sgroveryep.  but what about when you need to do something where tab-completion doesn't work?  Like maybe importing a file from within MySQL when the mysql client doesn't have tabcompletion enabled?05:29
sgroverI think you would need to escape the quote.  Something like   \"file\ name\"05:30
davidjheinrich_nope, that doesn't work05:30
sgroverdavidjheinrich_: this is why I avoid using odd characters in my file names.  Quotes are almost always going to be problematic.  Spaces eventually are.  I even avoid all the shift characters above the number keys - even though most are valid.05:33
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davidjheinrich_tab-completion works fine for me...I was just wondering why I can't start with a quote to avoid all those ugly \05:36
davidjheinrich_and imo, underscores look ugly when navigating files and trying to read things...esp when I've transferred flac files to my Cowon D2 and am navigating by folder05:37
davidjheinrich_(the other thing is, for me, it's easier to type a space than an underscore, so the file-creation process is easier with spaces)05:38
davidjheinrich_i guess everything's a tradeoff05:39
Nikkecan i disable that workspaces steel windows from other workspaces? if i opens a link in workspace 1 i want firefox to stay in workspace 205:41
t0asteranyone know an application like putty for 9.4?05:44
t0asteri need a serial concole05:45
sgroverdavidjheinrich_: I personally use only one or two words, if I need more I use camelCase.  If I need a date or something, then I separate it with an underscore or dash.  i.e. myBackup-0905:53
DumieHello05:54
sgrovert0aster: xterm?  Or do you mean you need to connect to a serial device?05:54
sgroverIn that case, miniterm (I think that's right...)05:54
t0asterI found something05:54
DumieIS there anyone who can help me with some confuiguration to GRUB ??05:55
davidjheinrich_what is camelCase?05:55
t0asterkgrub editor05:55
Dumieyeap05:56
Dumiewell thats how it is:05:56
Dumiei had an old drive with XP05:56
sgroverdavidjheinrich_: join your words together without spaces.  Capitalize the first character of every word after the first.  i.e.  thisIsCamelCase05:56
Dumieand i connected to another sata slot05:56
Dumiebut i want to add it to the boot menu so that sometimes i may log to windows..05:57
Dumieam i clear?05:57
Dumieits in the /dev/sdb and dont know what root to give05:57
Dumieand what chainloader05:58
Dumieit wants the hd(1,0) for example..05:58
davidjheinrich_(wow, I just ripped "the 9 symphonies" to flac files from 5 CDs...almost as fast as d/l-ing them :-) )05:58
DumieIs it possible to get help from here?05:59
NikkeDumie: of course06:06
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cajrhello everyone,06:18
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galvanizeis there a chess game that works well in kubuntu?06:37
bazhanggalvanize, there are a large number of chess games; you can search in the konsole or the package manager for them06:41
bazhanggalvanize, apt-cache search chess  <---will bring up a list06:41
galvanizebazhang: I have and have only come up with a few.06:42
bazhang!find chess06:44
ubottuFound: gnome-games, 3dchess, brutalchess, dreamchess, dreamchess-data (and 10 others)06:44
bazhanggalvanize ^^06:44
bazhangoops06:45
yaa_help me anybody06:51
bazhangyaa_, with what06:51
yaa_telnet 85.175.110.85 2206:51
yaa_what would it say&06:51
yaa_?06:51
yaa_trying port forwarding06:52
yaa_does it work&06:52
yaa_?06:52
bazhangyaa_, why telnet? its not safe; consider ssh instead06:52
bazhang!ssh | yaa_06:52
ubottuyaa_: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/06:52
yaa_i know06:52
yaa_just to try06:52
yaa_ssh 85.175.110.8506:54
bazhangyaa_, not a good idea to ask strangers to access your machine06:54
yaa_it s ok. the one is testing machine06:55
dpreacherhello07:06
eagles0513875!hi | darkham07:06
ubottudarkham: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!07:06
eagles0513875miss type07:06
eagles0513875!hi | dpreacher07:07
ubottudpreacher: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!07:07
dpreacherfinally am onto kubuntu 9.04 and with it comes a simple problem. which was easily solved in last version by not this one.07:07
dpreacherthis is about amarok 2 not playing my mp3's and not popping up the "install MP3 support" and also the package lists showing some mp3 related library called libmad installed.07:08
dpreacheramarok 2 play/pause/stop/track change buttons are ugh!ly07:09
eagles0513875dpreacher: if you install kubuntu-restricted extras as well as lame you should be able to play fine07:09
eagles0513875dpreacher: regarding the play pause etc that has to be taken to the amarok channel07:09
dpreacherdisregard that amarok thing07:09
dpreacherthey just made a cool startup splash07:09
dpreacheri've been making a big mistake thruout upgrading the machine thru kubuntu versions07:10
dpreachernot having my apt-cache backed up and having to download huge games again n again07:10
dpreachersomeone suggested aptoncd07:10
dpreachermy query...07:10
dpreacheris will the packages be compatible in further distro versions?07:11
eagles0513875dunno dpreacher07:11
eagles0513875never tried that07:11
dpreacherits really a terrible experience to get open arena, warsow, sauerbraten, etc. sort of games every time a new kubuntu comes out...takes a lot of time and the repos in my country are slooww07:12
dpreacherone thing that was markedly different was...eh...where's my adept? :)07:14
bazhang!info adept07:14
ubottuadept (source: adept): package management suite for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0~beta4ubuntu6.1 (jaunty), package size 346 kB, installed size 1260 kB07:14
dpreacheradept was there in previous versions07:14
bazhangnow is optional install07:15
dpreacheryep...maybe good maybe not..07:15
dpreacherwhich led to me discovering kpackagekit for the first time07:15
dpreacherdunno if this was there before but here's an important thing07:15
dpreacherif kpackagekit was there before, i wonder why wasn't it featured in bold, put on desktop or have outstanding notifications?07:16
dpreachercoz for first time on my kubuntu machine, i have a quick way of the system telling me what updates i need immediately07:16
dpreacheralthough i checked it manually, but am so happy to see its there07:17
shock_day13hey everyone07:18
dpreacherhey shock_day1307:19
shock_day13hey dpreacher wasup07:19
dpreacherjust demoed a upgrade/install of kubuntu to a small gang of friends at a small cafe, managing to not mess with my system and kubuntu 9.04 installing smoothly.07:21
dpreacherdid that on saturday, evening, rushing out right after my exam07:21
shock_day13cool07:21
dpreacheri swore i want to not practice this demo at all, coz i want to face the worst of linux nightmares and that ppl gotta be like "i KNEW it!! hah!"....but nothing like that happened07:22
dpreachers/want/wanted07:22
shock_day13lol07:22
shock_day13thats quite adventurous07:23
eagles0513875!ot07:23
ubottu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!07:23
dpreacher!ok07:23
ubottuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)07:23
eagles0513875lol07:24
dpreacher:P07:24
eagles0513875brb again testing someting out on karmic07:24
dpreacherwhy don't they give firefox still? isn't there a qt version yet?07:25
faileasdpreacher: you can always install it yerself07:26
kalorin_I don't think there is a k version of firefox07:26
faileasand it blends pretty well07:26
kalorin_but it's pretty friendly under kde07:26
eagles0513875ya it is07:26
kalorin_why at 2:30am am I sitting here reading irc logs :(07:27
kalorin_sick07:27
dpreacherkalorin_ get sleep07:27
kalorin_can't07:27
kalorin_layed there for about 3 hours07:27
kalorin_going to veg in front of the tv I guess07:27
dpreachermaybe you should sit n sleep07:27
dpreachertv's bad for eyes before sleep07:27
kalorin_hopefully they wouldn't be looking at it long :)07:28
dpreacher:)07:28
dpreachergettin offtopic07:28
dpreacherthat bot will come again07:28
kalorin_silly bot07:29
kalorin_trix are for kids07:29
kalorin_:)07:29
noaXessif i want configure my network over /etc/network/interfaces.. do i remove the package network-manager?07:29
dpreacherits not about the friendly part...its the wait for internet to install it each time part...unless of course i build my aptoncd...everytime i hate that konqueror doesn't even support ctrl-enter, shift-enter shortcuts.07:29
noaXessor network-manager-kde(gnome)?07:29
dpreachernetwork...aha...07:30
dpreachererm...why is there a /etc/resolvconf and not /etc/resolv.conf?07:30
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noaXessif i want configure my network over /etc/network/interfaces.. do i remove the package network-manager?07:51
eagles0513875noaXess: no need you can just use /etc/network/interfaces and resolv.conf07:52
noaXesseagles0513875: ok thanks07:53
eagles0513875had to do that with jaunty cuz network manager doesnt work outa the box but for some reason couldnt use dhcp07:53
eagles0513875not sure if it is an issue with the chipset i could be on07:53
eagles0513875noaXess: let me know if you have any issues07:57
noaXesseagles0513875: it works..07:57
eagles0513875:)07:57
eagles0513875outa curiosity how many name server ips do you have in the resolv.conf07:57
dpreacherkubuntu 9.04 doesn't have a resolv.conf entry with commented out sample entries, what gui tool is to be used to generate that file...i created one manually but i wonder what the resolvconf file is about?07:58
loadingoi08:00
loadingalguem qki pode me ajudar ?08:01
eagles0513875!es | loading08:02
ubottuloading: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.08:02
eagles0513875dpreacher: you have to make one from scratch08:02
eagles0513875dpreacher: resolv.conf is the file to give it a single ip of a dns server08:02
loadingok08:02
loadingentendi =]08:03
dpreachereagles0513875 yeah did that...but without the example i forgot whether i'd to put the word nameserver or nameservers and without the dns...i can't google for an answer either08:04
eagles0513875nameserver08:04
eagles0513875then the ip08:04
dpreacheryes...learnt by trial n error08:04
eagles0513875had to do this last night on jaunty so its fresh in me head08:05
dpreachermine too08:05
eagles0513875once you do that restart your network08:05
loadingI not speck inglis08:05
dpreacher:)08:05
dpreacheri liek det08:05
eagles0513875loading:  type /join #kubuntu-es08:05
eagles0513875karmic looks like a newere spanshot of the widget seems to work im using that for me static ip08:05
Greenerywill 4.2.3 be on the official kubuntu repo soon or do I have to get it from the PPA?08:06
dpreacheri wasn't makin permanent network changes...so i hadn't changed anything in interfaces file08:06
dpreacher!info ppa08:06
ubottuPackage ppa does not exist in jaunty08:06
dpreacheroh damn08:06
eagles0513875language dpreacher08:08
eagles0513875bot only gives info on packages on personal package archive08:08
eagles0513875Greenery: i am not sure to be honest with you if it will be or not08:08
dpreacherdamn is bad?08:09
dpreacherok08:09
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noaXessany other problem.. i have two hd's /dev/sda and /dev/sdc.... sda1 is the main hd and sdc is the backup if sda.. i run just a dd to clone sda to sdc..08:09
Nicekiwi9hey i need help getting an Nvidia driver installed on a fresh install of Kubuntu 9.0408:09
noaXessnow, sometimes i reboot the system it seams that i boot's fomr sdc.. not from sda.. in grub is the uuid fomr sda included.. but sometimes it bootes really from sdc.08:10
noaXesshow can i forec booting automaticaly from sda?08:10
GreeneryNicekiwi9: go to system> application> hardware drivers and check the box for the nvidia driver you want08:10
eagles0513875Greenery: touche read my mind lol08:11
Nicekiwi9tried that, it fails to find any driver for me08:11
Greenerywhat is your nvidia card?08:11
eagles0513875noaXess: check out grub there might be something in there08:11
noaXesseagles0513875: in menu.lst?08:12
Nicekiwi9GeForce™ 8400M GS08:12
Nicekiwi9Nvidia08:12
eagles0513875ya might have a hint in there some wherre noaXess08:13
noaXesseagles0513875: defaul grub root device?08:13
Greenerykubuntu should be able to detect your nvidia card. were you connected to the internet while doing a hardware driver?08:14
Nicekiwi9ive tried installing the latest driver for linux from the Nvidia website, but even that failed to give me 3d effects08:14
eagles0513875noaXess: its possibly08:14
Nicekiwi9yes i was08:14
Nicekiwi9however the update manager also fails to show me any of the updates avalible for 9.0408:14
Nicekiwi9and yet is still able to download apps that i search for08:14
Nicekiwi9i added the repo for the latest KDE release and it reloads the cache form that and the normal repos but still shows nothing08:16
wowickybye08:17
loadingalguem me ajuda ?08:19
Nicekiwi9the only way ive managed to get the video drivers to work is install them in ubtunu in 8.10 and then upgrade to kubuntu 9.0408:19
loadingto com problema na minha zotac XFX 5500 ge force08:19
loadingkubuntu 8,1008:20
jussi01loading: type: /join #kubuntu-es08:20
loadingok08:20
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Nicekiwi9ping...08:22
eagles0513875pong08:23
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eagles0513875loading tu necescitas este canle #kubuntu-es este canale hablar solo en ingles por favor08:23
ultratekcan i upgrade jaunty 32 bit to 64 bit? using live cd and not over write my current files?08:24
tsimpsonultratek: no, it needs to be a fresh install08:25
ultratekshucks08:25
ultratekty simpson08:25
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Virkhi everyone08:32
Lamunder System Settings > Input Actions, can i use mouse inputs and assign them to keyboard key combinations?08:32
Virkfor some reason or another, when I move something to the trash, it is horribly slow08:33
Virkbut really really slow, even for 1kb files..08:34
* Nicekiwi9 makes a mental not to kickshit out of his server b4 complaining on irc08:43
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ct529hi everybody .... anyone who has successfully updated to 904 usingt the automatic updater?09:34
tsimpsonyes09:36
Greeneryseems like my kubuntu did not detect my DVD burner, but my DVD reader is detected. Any idea how to fix this?09:36
ct529tsimpson: did you? what type of difficulties did you have? I have to update a production machine, I am a bit unsure about it09:38
eatThisAndDieGreenery: is your burner and reader 2 different devices? IF so have you tried lspci?09:39
tsimpsonct529: I upgraded one machine from 8.04 and one from 8.10, I had no issues with either09:39
ct529tsimpson: fairly standard machines?09:40
thandaDo any of you have problems in getting vmware console in kubuntu-9,04?09:40
tsimpsonct529: one was a laptop, the other an older desktop09:40
Greeneryyup they are two separate devices. What do I look at in lspci?09:40
ct529tsimpson: yes, I have to upgrade a laptop (Dell M6300)09:41
ct529tsimpson: what was your laptop?09:41
thandaI could not able to open the vmware console, in kubuntu-9.04 and with firefox browser?09:41
tsimpsonct529: toshiba satellite pro a10009:42
ct529tsimpson: I will give it a go .... do you use java applications?09:42
tsimpsonct529: only rarely, when I have to09:43
ct529tsimpson: upgrade on the way, talk to you later .... thanks a lot for your help!09:43
GreeneryI checked my fstab, only one entry for cdrom09:44
smeg0lhi09:56
eagles0513875!hi | smeg0l09:57
ubottusmeg0l: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!09:57
smeg0lthx09:57
eric_hi10:05
refichello10:05
af__hi10:10
Peace-----_> tester for this ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDwX7RcMPAo10:19
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Dragonathwhat's the keyboard shortcut for changing desktops in kde?10:50
ActionParsnipyo yo yo11:09
Mist_I find Kubuntu resolution settings.. confusing.. ^^11:10
ActionParsnipMist_: how so/11:13
Mist_Problem: When I boot my Kubuntu 9.04 I get a res of 1600x1200 and my screen cant handle that so I only see part of login screen at 1280x1080. I see login box in right down corner. I log in, and then right click and choose log out and when logged out it switch to correct resolution and stay that way when logged in from that point. After reboot it is the same procedure again.11:13
Mist_resolution is set via ATI CC. Driver for ATI works ok with opengl and so on though :)11:14
Mist_Do I still need to define the screen and resolution in xorg.conf? I thought xrandr and so on was to handle that part but I guess it only is when logged in and xrandr kicks in and not before when kdm server is started?11:15
ActionParsnipMist_: maybe you could put the res you prefer for the logon screen in xorg.conf (as you say)11:16
Mist_ActionParsnip: Yes, just like it was in xorg for 3.x and so on. I must say I find it a little odd the ubuntu developers let this slio into release because after install I had complete black and screen wasnt responding at all. Just because the xorg.conf didnt have a driver to lean back on. So I sent in driver  "vesa" in order to work from there.11:20
Mist_Or maybe the error is that I pumped it onto a machine with ATI gfx ^^11:20
katodagreetings everyone11:21
Mist_Hey katoda :)11:21
katodawhen I run amarok, it takes the /dev/dsp channel11:21
katodaanybody confirm this?11:21
ActionParsnipMist_: not sure dude, i avoid ati like paris hilton11:23
katodaMist_: ATI drivers in 9.04 are broken11:24
Mist_ActionParsnip: I should as well from now on. ATI really dissapointed me past year.. a lot on windows systems as well. But huge on GNU/Linux systems. Going to be nvidia from now on. Sad..11:24
katodaMist_: it can diametrally change, because ATI has freed it's code11:25
Mist_katoda: ATI's catalyst drivers work fine here though. But it was a bit of fiddle to say the least.11:26
Mist_If it would been nvidia card, things would just worked and that is the difference.11:26
ActionParsnipMist_: i have always used nvidia without a hitch since Riva TNT2 Ultra 32Mb was the big boy in the park11:27
Mist_:)11:27
katoda:)11:27
katodaI prefer nVidia too11:27
katodabut, any1 can confirm that amarok takes the /dev/dsp channel while playing?11:28
Mist_I went ATI back at Radeon 9800 Pro. It was ok back then. But some time after that and AMD it just broke down.11:28
Mist_katoda: I started my amarok first time now.. he he.. did some recomended updates..11:28
katodait is all about phonon configuration :/11:29
Mist_katoda: hmm.. where does one catch the amarok settings for sound device and so on?11:31
katodaSettings -> Configure -> Playback11:32
katodaMist_: there is Sound system configuration button11:33
drbobbI downgraded my Xorg server to the hardy version (yes I had a good reason), now my keyboard is badly mangled in X. Any idea for a fix?11:34
ActionParsnip!downgrade > drbobb11:34
ubottudrbobb, please see my private message11:34
ActionParsnipdrbobb: you could manually configure its settings in xorg.conf11:34
ActionParsnipdrbobb: or check the keyboard confing in systemsettings11:35
Mist_katoda: hmm.. I was just looking into preferences in the menu.. I am not that huge user of amarok. This is on a Kubuntu 9.04 system btw :)11:35
katodayes, of course ;)11:35
drbobbsure I know it's not supported. But jaunty is broken out of the box on my VGA, and I haven't been able to find any workaround other than downgrade11:35
katodamake amarok play anything and try to cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp11:35
katodaI have the resource busy :(11:35
Mist_katoda: trying to find that.. ah :) of course. I choose some streaming channel.. works.. hmm..11:36
alex__hi @ all, can anybody help me with a java-coding-problem (Data-transfer)11:36
ubsafder/join11:36
ubsafder  #openvibe11:36
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ActionParsnipkatoda: try  lsof | grep dsp11:36
drbobbActionParsnip: i've done all that, and no luck. The mapping and all XKB stuff look ok, but the function keys (Del, Home, End etc) are emitting the wrong keycodes11:37
katodatried alredy11:37
katodabut got empty list :(11:37
Mist_katoda: yepp.. resource is busy for me now on /dev/dsp11:37
katodawhen I kill amarok, I can use /dev/dsp11:37
katodamaybe it is something wrong with phonon xine backend configuration?11:37
ActionParsnipdrbobb: does: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg not fly?11:38
drbobbarrowup emits the keycode mapped to PrintScreen, for instance11:38
ActionParsnipkatoda: then that logically seals it, it does use /dev/dsp for something11:38
Mist_katoda: that is one thing that annoyed me through the years with GNU/Linux, when sound resources are hogged almost everytime by something else even a system sound.11:38
Mamarok_ubsafder: do not spam the channel please11:38
drbobbActionParsnip: of course not, was the first thing I tried11:38
ActionParsnipdrbobb: i assume nothing11:39
ubsafderi am sorry i got the wrong tab to enter the join command11:39
katodaActionParsnip: yes, but how can I change it *not* to use the /dev/dsp, but use the ALSA mixing?11:39
drbobbalso tried dpkg-reconfigure console-setup, followed by a hal restart11:39
drbobbnothing seems to work11:39
ActionParsnipkatoda: amarok settings and tell it to use a different thingy11:39
katodaActionParsnip: not possible to do it in amarok2?11:39
ActionParsnipdrbobb: could read xorg logs and dmesg11:39
ActionParsnipkatoda: i dont use it, it doesnt do what i need and amarok1.4 does11:40
drbobbActionParsnip: nothing unusual there. I believe the evdev driver is used for the keybd11:40
Mamarok_katoda: do you happen to use Pulseaudio?11:40
katodaMamarok: no, i use Phonon11:41
Mamarok_katoda: I know, but does pulseaudio show up there?11:41
katodaMamarok_: and I have my audio card preffered11:41
katodaMamarok_: yes, it shows11:41
ActionParsnipdrbobb: then i got not idea, could setup keyboard manually in xorg.conf and tell it the driver to use by force and the lanuage to use11:41
Mamarok_katoda: purge Pulseaudio, that is likely to solve your problems11:41
fungI can't boot into windows anymore after combining a few random partitions to organize my filesystem. it gave a "could not find ntoskrnl.exe" error. I thought I would fix it if I directed my XP entry in grub's menu.lst to sdc5 where my windows directory is but now I get a error 12: invalid device requested error. anyone know what I should do?11:42
Mamarok_katoda: even if not selected, it hugs the audio11:42
drbobbActionParsnip: but it's not a lang problem, all alphanumeric keys work correctly11:42
ActionParsnipdrbobb: ok thats something positive11:42
drbobbbut most of the "motion" keys are mangled11:42
katodaMamarok_: strange... PulseAudio shows in phonon, but I don't have pulseaudio installed11:42
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drbobbso are Del, right Ctrl, right Alt etc11:43
Mamarok_katoda: you should then also remove the pulseaudio specific entries in .kde/share/config/phonondevicesrc (erasing that file does the trick usually)11:43
ActionParsnipdrbobb: do they make the right noises in xev?11:44
Mamarok_katoda: and check your hidden files for sound related entries where pulseaudio still can linger11:44
drbobbActionParsnip: no, the *keycodes* reported are wrong11:44
katodaMamarok_: ok, brb, kde restart11:45
drbobbthe mapping is correct afaics, as reported by xmodmap -pk11:45
ActionParsnipdrbobb: hmmm11:45
drbobbof course in the text-mode console all keys work correctly11:45
drbobbActionParsnip: yeah it's really weird, never seen such a thing before11:46
ActionParsnipdrbobb: you could have a whale of a time remapping codes to stuff11:47
ActionParsnipdrbobb: otherwise i don't have a scooby11:47
drbobbActionParsnip: and it's gonna force me to reinstall hardy if I don't manahe to solve it11:47
drbobbmanage11:47
ActionParsnipsounds likely unfortunatle :(11:48
drbobbActionParsnip: well it's about 10 keys to remap, not all that much. Often used ones though11:48
ActionParsnipyeah if they were minimally used I guesses you can bumble along11:49
drbobbbut there must be a better solution, except it's really hard to find any info at all about Xorg's keyboard handling11:50
ActionParsnipdrbobb: oh tell me about it, try man xorg11:50
ActionParsnipdrbobb: i'll check back with you in a week to see if you need a straightjacket and to wipe the foam off your mouth11:51
drbobbActionParsnip: heh verry funny11:52
Matisse_hi11:52
Matisse_what is the firefox-3.1 package?11:52
katodawelcome back11:52
ActionParsnip!info firefox-3.111:52
ubottufirefox-3.1 (source: firefox-3.5): dummy upgrade package for firefox-3.1 -> firefox-3.5. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.5~b4~hg20090330r24021+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 (jaunty), package size 68 kB, installed size 124 kB11:53
katodaMamarok_: unfortunately after removing this file and kde restart, I still have PulseAudio to choose in phonon config11:53
katodabut I still don't have phonon installed :/11:53
drbobbActionParsnip: actually I'm not so sure whether key remapping the old-school way, with xmodmap, even works any longer11:53
ActionParsnipdrbobb: worth a shot if it saves you reinstalling11:54
Matisse_ActionParsnip, thx11:54
drbobbafaics whatever I put in xorg.conf about the keyboard, the evdev/hal black magic seems to override it anyway11:55
ActionParsnipgah11:56
* drbobb is utterly confused11:56
Mamarok_katoda: if you see a something in Systemsettings->Multimedia, then you have phonon :)11:57
Mamarok_katoda: did you install phonon-backend-xine?11:58
drbobbautoconfiguration is really cool when it works, when it fails for some reason, you're just f****ed11:58
katodaMamarok_: yes, I have phonon-backend-xine11:59
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inSanehello everyone11:59
katodahi inSane12:00
ActionParsnipdrbobb: totally, thats why i like control over a lot of my settings (especially network stuff)12:01
inSaneif i were a bloody noob on ubuntu, would you advise me to install KDE 3 or KDE4??12:01
drbobbwell not like computing vidmode timings by yourself was really so much fun, but...12:02
pgquilesinSane: KDE412:02
katodainSane: KDE3 is more stable and more mature, KDE4 is cutting-edge ;-)12:02
inSanepgquiles: why?12:03
katodainSane: if you want a stable system, then choose KDE3, otherwise choose KDE412:03
drbobbread that as: kde3 works now, kde4 will be awesome sometime in the future12:03
katodadrbobb: KDE4 is awsome now, but a bit unstable ;-)12:03
pgquilesinSane: because KDE4 works great, is where all our (KDE developers) effort is going and it can run KDE3 apps anyway.12:03
drbobbkatoda: define awesome. For some, it's lots of eyecandy, for me - it's Just Works12:04
inSanekatoda: i am not sure, i want as much performance as possible, but i dont like xfce, because you cant get much help for it at web12:05
katodadrbobb: it has much better programming API, supports many programming language, has plasma12:05
ActionParsnipinSane: tried lxde/12:05
katodainSane: the easiest way - try both, and then decide ;-)12:05
drbobbplasma is currently mainly a liability, from the POV that stresses Just Works12:06
inSaneActionParsnip: lxde ?? never heard about it??12:06
ActionParsnip!lxde12:07
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about lxde12:07
ActionParsnip!info lxde12:07
ubottulxde (source: lxde-common): Meta-package for the Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.2.1+svn20080509-5 (jaunty), package size 2 kB, installed size 40 kB12:07
ActionParsnipinSane: http://www.dacostabalboa.com/es/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/lxde.png12:07
katodadrbobb: for me plasma is better management of desktop space than just icons12:07
katodaand for me that works12:08
katodabut it is a beggining of a flame war ;-)12:08
ActionParsnipinSane: its a lightweight DE, I use it on my desktop systems12:08
inSaneActionParsnip: is there much help in web for this DE?12:09
ActionParsnipinSane: how do you mean?12:09
ActionParsnipinSane: you can run the same apps you run in kde as you can in LXDE (or any other for that matter)12:10
inSanebecause i am a completely noob on ubuntu, the only thing i can is installing a application by sudo apt-get install12:10
ActionParsnipinSane: thats better than mot, folks usually use synaptic and shy away from command line12:10
ActionParsnips/mot/most12:11
ActionParsnipinSane: all i can suggest is try a few, see which you like12:11
inSaneActionParsnip: thank you for your advice! i will try!12:13
inSaneis it possible to run ununtu jauthy with kde3??12:13
ActionParsnipinSane: if you can find a repo with it on then sure (or compile)12:14
inSaneActionParsnip: i have no idea how to do this - its microsofts fault, it made me stupid! damn M$12:16
faileasinSane: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Kde3/Jaunty12:17
eagles0513875hehehe inSane12:17
ActionParsnipinSane: you install things from repositorys when you use apt-get12:17
ActionParsnipinSane: if you use the link faileas gave it will tell you what repository to add, you will then download kde3 from the new repository (once you tell your system to) and itwill be installed12:17
inSaneActionParsnip: thanks, now i feel like the one and only fool on this earth, who didn´t know that =)12:18
ActionParsnipinSane: your current repos are listed in /etc/apt/sources.list12:18
ActionParsnipinSane: its all new so i'm trying to teach you to fish rather than giving you tuna12:18
faileasinSane: http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/install.html this will also be of use ;)12:20
* faileas has been tempted to try it, actually. KDE4 needs to mature a little more IMO, despite it being what i generally use >_>12:21
ActionParsnipfaileas: use kde4 apps, just not kde4 itself ;)12:21
Peace-kdenlive user here?12:22
Peace-i need of tester12:22
Peace-xD12:22
eagles0513875Peace-: pm me12:22
faileasActionParsnip: thats a possibility12:22
inSanethanks a lot, ActionParsnip and fileas12:23
inSanei have one last question: is it Possible to have such a bar with icons like in here: http://yfrog.com/5aleistep (on the bottom)12:28
johnis kubuntu slower than ubuntu?12:29
Peace-no12:29
johnthanks!12:29
Peace-if you put ubuntu+kde i think yes12:29
ActionParsnipjohn: kde uses slightly more resources than gnome afaik. If your system is decent it will have no effect on speed12:29
johnright12:29
Peace-bah... ActionParsnip12:30
ActionParsnipinSane: looks like avant-window-naviator to me12:30
johni have a 2ghz with ati radeon 9200 512mb ram12:30
Peace-i am here with 200mb of ram...12:30
ActionParsnipjohn: sjould be fine12:30
Peace-22012:30
johnactionparsnip is the support harder?12:30
ActionParsnipPeace-: my fileserver has that :)12:30
ActionParsnipjohn: how do you mean "harder"12:30
Peace-ActionParsnip: what? i am on a desktop12:30
ActionParsnipPeace-: oic, nice12:31
ActionParsnipPeace-: tried puppy on it?12:31
eagles0513875ActionParsnip: :) can i ask ya a question12:31
ActionParsnipeagles0513875: sure12:31
Peace-well if kde 3.5.10 runs on pentium 2 350mhz with 256mb of ram12:32
faileasPeace-: my spare box has 128 :)12:32
inSaneActionParsnip: thanks, i will ask my aunt google12:32
Peace-why shall i use another desktoo12:32
Peace-and yes i have tried puppylinux12:32
ActionParsnipPeace-: just a casual suggestion of a light distro12:32
eagles0513875i know this aint the channel for karmic stuff but its not really a question im just tyring to make something from svn source and having some issues atm12:32
eagles0513875let me paste bin12:32
Peace-ActionParsnip: well i prefer kde xD distro12:32
ActionParsnipPeace-: fair point12:32
Peace-well puppy is harder for wifi stuff12:33
eagles0513875ActionParsnip: what am i missing here12:33
Peace-and kde is a complete desktop then12:33
ActionParsnipPeace-: i find it equal personally, but orses for courses an all12:33
ActionParsnipeagles0513875: ive not used any svn stuffs12:34
eagles0513875:( ok12:34
Peace-mah12:34
eagles0513875Peace-: you have any idea what im missing12:34
faileasPeace-: prolly cause puppy runs a 2.4 kernel12:36
Peace-faileas: maybe12:36
inSaneActionParsnip: Avant is only for Gnome >.< what a pitty12:37
ActionParsnipinSane: you can install gtk libs and run it12:37
inSaneso i can run it on kde, too?12:38
ActionParsnipinSane: only for gnome doesnt mean a lot as you can install all the gnome deps it needs and run it happily12:38
ActionParsnipinSane: sure, depends on your stance on bloat12:38
Peace-well i will try kooldock12:39
Peace-sadly it's for kde312:39
p-fXorg's CPU usage goes to 99% when I type fast / hold keys down. Why? How can I fix this?12:39
ActionParsnip!find dock12:39
ubottuFound: autodock, autodock-test, cairo-dock, cairo-dock-data, cairo-dock-dev (and 16 others)12:39
ActionParsnip!info cairo-dock12:39
ubottucairo-dock (source: cairo-dock): A light and eye-candy dock to launch your programs easily. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6.3.1-0ubuntu1 (jaunty), package size 312 kB, installed size 928 kB12:39
ActionParsnipPeace-: or you can use: apt-cache search dock | less12:40
inSaneActionParsnip: adept is insalling depends automatically, doesnt it?12:40
Peace-ActionParsnip: that's nice code12:40
Peace-inSane: adept?12:40
Peace-kpackagekit you mean12:40
inSanePeace: adept package manager... did i say something wrong?12:41
ActionParsnipinSane: both apt-get and adept will install deps automagically12:41
eagles0513875ActionParsnip: fixed my issues12:42
ActionParsnipeagles0513875: good lad :)12:43
eagles0513875ActionParsnip: quick apt-get build-dep fix12:43
ActionParsnipeagles0513875: you love that stuff :D12:43
eagles0513875ActionParsnip: try running a make -j4 to get it to use all 4 cores now that will boggle your mind even make install -j4 to take advantage of the number of cores your rig has12:44
inSaneActionParsnip: i have to press my kubuntu-partition at the moment, so i will try that avant-stuff =) looks very fine12:44
ActionParsnipinSane: some people like it, some dont12:44
inSaneActionParsnip: thanks again!!you teached me more than google could in a few months.12:45
ActionParsnipinSane: you'll learn as you use stuff12:45
GorjXQuelqu'un du Québec ici?12:46
Pici!fr12:46
ubottuCe canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr12:46
GorjXI have a question about the layout of my keyboard.12:47
katoda!pl12:47
ubottuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl12:47
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inSaneHi again13:06
inSaneone last quetion: i need to install an stable and fast ubuntu-system. wich DE gives me the best performance? is it xfce? or LXDE?13:08
eagles0513875Peace-: you still around13:09
Peace-ya13:09
oobeinSane, that is a matter of opinon no one can answer you and be absolutly correct13:09
inSaneoobe: youre right, but i would like to hear your opinion13:11
jussi01inSane: thats more a question for #kubuntu-offtopic13:12
inSanejussi01: ok, thanks, i will try it there13:13
ActionParsnipinSane: i'd shoot for LXDE but i'm kinda biased13:25
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p-fX eats up to 99% cpu when I type fast / hold keys down. What could be causing this?13:44
ActionParsnipp-f: are you fully updated13:57
ActionParsnipp-f: have you installed video drivers and the like so all your hardware is working fully13:58
ActionParsnipp-f: what cpu speed and ram amount do you have?13:58
p-fActionParsnip: I see a bunch of qt4 updates, but that's it13:58
p-fActionParsnip: and I never had that problem before 2-3 days ago (didn't change anything)13:58
ActionParsnipp-f: i'd get fully updated before anything at all13:58
p-fActionParsnip: I don't see how updating qt4 would change anything13:59
ActionParsnipp-f: its a possibility13:59
p-fActionParsnip: so having an oudated qt4 would magically have made my typing in non-qt4 applications rise cpu usage to 99%?13:59
ActionParsnipp-f: better to isolate it out by getting the latest stable release13:59
ActionParsnipp-f: one less complication to factor in14:00
p-fActionParsnip: the thing is I've had more breakage than fixage from upgrading so far when it comes to ubuntu14:00
ActionParsnipp-f: ok thats cool14:00
ActionParsnipp-f: let me websearch14:00
ActionParsnipp-f: ok i read a forum and someone said exactly what you said, keyboard input makes xorg go crazy14:03
ActionParsnipp-f: there was a link that gave this: http://linux-tipps.blogspot.com/2009/03/fixing-high-latency-with-kde4-display.html14:04
ActionParsnipp-f: see if it helps14:04
p-fActionParsnip: thanks, I'll try that14:04
Mamarok_ActionParsnip: that is not enabled by default anyway AFAIK14:09
Mamarok_not in de 4.2.3 at least14:09
ActionParsnipMamarok_: its not something ive done but the link was on a page describing identical situation, so kinda makes sense14:09
ActionParsnipp-f: backup any config files you edit first so you can rollback easily14:10
p-fActionParsnip: that page refers to kde though14:10
p-fActionParsnip: I'm using ion, kded isn't running at all14:10
ActionParsnipion?14:10
Mamarok_p-f: you know you are in a KDE support forum though?14:10
p-fMamarok_: I was under the impression that this was a support channel for kubuntu, the linux distribution (which I am using)14:11
Mamarok_which uses KDE14:11
p-fbut KDE is just the top layer14:11
ActionParsnipp-f: true, its still the same x server etc14:12
Mamarok_p-f: if you are using ion with Qt it's not the same14:12
ActionParsnipoh14:12
p-fMamarok_: it still doesn't magically turn my distro into something else14:12
Mamarok_p-f: "it" doesn't, you did :) The only thing in comen as the basic Linux layer AFAIK14:13
Mamarok_common* even14:13
p-fand the versions for every single package but kde414:14
ActionParsnipp-f: maybe its a poor ion config14:14
Mamarok_ActionParsnip: ion is a keyboard only shell manager IIRC14:14
* p-f waves his mouse around14:15
p-fguess not14:15
p-f:p14:15
Mamarok_p-f: it was thought to be, wasn't it?14:15
p-fI'll try from another WM, see what happens14:15
p-fMamarok_: well, its main focus is on tiling / keyboard shortcuts14:15
p-fMamarok_: (and depressive/emo main dev, but that's another story)14:15
Mamarok_p-f: from what I remember it was supposed to be usable without mouse14:16
claudio_hi14:16
p-fMamarok_: yeah I guess it is14:16
claudio_how can i make work the webcam with pidgin?14:16
ActionParsnipclaudio_: it doesnt support webcam afaik14:16
p-fclaudio_: I'm pretty sure it's not supported14:16
ActionParsnipclaudio_: what protocol are you wanting to use with webcam14:16
claudio_wow14:17
claudio_thx14:17
ActionParsnipclaudio_: if you are using msn, try amsn14:17
claudio_do u know another application that supports that?14:17
claudio_i use yahoo14:17
ActionParsnipi think gyache supports webcam for yahoo, i know it does voice14:18
p-fclaudio_: GyachE14:18
p-fbeaten to it again, darn14:18
Mamarok_p-f: your WM is too slow ;)14:19
ActionParsniphahahah14:19
* ActionParsnip is on his XP Pro work lappy ;)14:20
p-fah...all the time I would have saved, had I stayed on XP Pro with winsplit revolution to replace a tiling wm14:21
ActionParsnipi'd have missed xp altogether if it wasnt for this thing14:23
Matissehi14:23
MatisseWith Alsa:  is it possible to send sound signals to 2 sound cards (onboard + plugged) or if not is it possible to reverse a input channel to an output channel?14:23
Matisseis there a command to list all recognized sound cards?14:25
reesehi. i have no sound on the test in system settings->multimedia. most of the sound works, except amarok, though14:26
p-fMatisse: there's lspci, but that's for pci only14:26
reeseit happened after some automatic upgrade14:26
reeseis there a way to restore it?14:26
Matissep-f, so it won't show onboard stuff?14:27
DragnslcrMatisse- aplay -l14:27
p-fMatisse: mine's showing up14:27
ActionParsnipMatisse: it will show everything atatched to the pci bus. usbstuff is listed with lsusb14:30
BluesKajhowdy14:32
ActionParsniphi BluesKaj14:32
BluesKajhi ActionParsnip14:33
gustavonareaHello. Since I upgraded to KDE 4.2.3, I can't access my feeds in akregator anymore. The whole kontact crashes a few minutes after I start akregator. Is this a known issue? There's a workaround?14:34
gustavonareaHere's the output, just in case http://pastebin.com/m399d8e04 (I've removed the URLs for my feeds: some of them are private and they all used to work anyway)14:37
tiredbonesI wish to install kdar on distro 8.10, but I use gnome. Could someone point me to instruction to install kdar on my system?14:41
ActionParsnip!info kdar14:44
ubottuPackage kdar does not exist in jaunty14:44
Picitiredbones: Just like you were told in #ubuntu, kdar has not been in the repositories since dapper.  Ubuntu and Kubuntu share the same repos.14:44
enzihi, where can i find the boot file?? i want to add a line, that a prog starts allways when i boot the PC14:45
Pici!boot | enzi14:46
ubottuenzi: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto14:46
Taggnostrhello14:46
tiredbonesPici, I was not informed on #ubuntu that they share the same repos. In fact I was told to ask the question on this group.14:46
tiredbonesPici, Thanks for your time.14:47
tiredbonesDose anyone know if kdar will be supported in the future on ubuntu?14:48
Picitiredbones: not likely, it hasn't been in the repositories for nearly 6 releases.14:49
PiciIt was probably removed for a good reason14:49
tiredbonesPici, do you know of any other frontend for dar?14:50
Picitiredbones: backup-manager appears to be the only package that depends on dar, so you could try that.14:50
nameinerhi folks, does anybody know if there is a place for scripts that should be run after each resume from suspend to disk?14:52
tiredbonesHas anyone here tried cedar-backup2 for thier backups to cd or dvds?14:54
TaggnostrI dist-upgraded trial (a tool of python-twisted) and it's not working anymore, I asked in the twisted channel and they said me that it is a package bug and I should report it14:59
Taggnostrand trial*15:00
TaggnostrI can't find it anything in the bug tracker, should I open a new one?15:04
reeseafter some upgrades, i have no sound in amarok, although other apps' sound work. using xine backend, i also have no system sound15:05
reeseusing gstreamer, i get system sound, but still no amarok sound15:05
reeseanyone had this issue?15:05
xorvatпривет всем . как можно поменять разрешение экрана? в каких файлах оно хранится ?15:06
kalorin-generally speaking it seems like sound under linux is a little behind15:07
kalorin-!russian15:07
ubottuПожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke15:07
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enzihow can i activate my 4th mousebutton for the Dolphine and Opera?15:42
enziforward and backward (4th and 5th)15:42
GnuBoiGuys, i have recently installed kubuntu 9.04 in my computer15:49
GnuBoinow internet runs only in quassel and kopete15:49
GnuBoibut not in konqueror15:49
GnuBoikpackagekit15:49
GnuBoiwhat to do15:49
PconfigGnuBoi: are you surfing behind a proxy?15:55
GnuBoino15:56
GnuBoiads15:56
GnuBoiadsl15:56
Pconfigwhat does konqueror show as error message?15:56
GnuBoiThe requested operation could not be completed15:57
GnuBoiConnection to Server Refused15:57
GnuBoionly quassel and kopete work15:58
Pconfigthat's strange, seems like your firewall is blocking the other applications15:59
GnuBoiwhere is firewall16:00
Pconfigdid konq work when you just installed everything?16:00
GnuBoiok i will check in windows16:00
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desafinadocan i install " add/remove applications ", like in ubuntu?16:18
BluesKaj-laptopdesafinado, use the package manager16:20
desafinadokpackagekit you mean?16:21
desafinadoi'm a lil bit confused with that16:21
BluesKaj-laptopyes16:22
BluesKaj-laptopor synaptic if youstill have it16:22
desafinadoi have install synaptic but still no "add/remove applications"16:22
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BluesKaj-laptopI installed adept because the kpaackage kit isn't my cuppa tea16:23
BluesKaj-laptopjust remove the applications in synaptic16:24
reesei'm sudenly getting no system sound with the xine backend. anyone knows why?16:24
desafinadoyou mean like in kubuntu 8. 10?16:24
BluesKaj-laptopot sudo apt-get remove 'applicationfile' in the terminal16:25
BluesKaj-laptopor16:25
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Dillizarhey how is kde 4.2 and kubuntu 9.04 does it work on intel 950 Graphic chipset16:31
PiciDillizar: You may experience some issues with intel chipsets, see the release notes:16:32
GnuBoihow to enable mp3,dvd,flash in kubuntu 9.0416:32
Pici!notes16:32
ubottuUbuntu 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope) release notes can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyJackalope/ReleaseNotes16:32
GnuBoipici: whole render is slow in my lapto16:32
PiciGnuBoi: Install the kubuntu-restricted-extras package16:32
GnuBoihow to install16:33
GnuBoikpackagekit doesn;t work16:33
DillizarPici, cuz i want to put kubuntu on blue pc150 asus :) it will look good16:33
GnuBoiPici: check this http://pastebin.com/d4462de6e16:37
PiciGnuBoi: The firefox package name is firefox-3.0 or firefox-3.116:39
PiciI don't know what the other package is, I'm actually a gnome person <.<16:39
GnuBoipici and how to install restricted extras packagge16:39
wrinkliezhey guys.  ive installed wine on kubuntu, and i would like to make it so that when i click browse c:/ drive, it opens up in dolphin to my c drive.  right now it just spits out an error.  do you guys know what command i would put to have dolphin open up at a specific directory?16:39
PiciGnuBoi: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras16:39
GnuBoisudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras16:40
GnuBoiujjwol@GnuBoi:~$ sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras16:40
GnuBoiReading package lists... Done16:40
GnuBoiBuilding dependency tree16:40
GnuBoiReading state information... Done16:40
GnuBoiE: Couldn't find package kubuntu-restricted-extras16:40
GnuBoiujjwol@GnuBoi:~$16:40
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reeseis amarok 2.1 beta 2 in the the experimental repo?16:45
kstingerany help, i can't recieved and send webcam in kopete under kubuntu jaunty16:49
Allydedewhere is the image path ?16:52
JukeBoxHerohey, what are the kde4 styles you guys got in repos?16:52
jadohi, i'm trying to increase my mouse sensitivity ; i've found the 'Advanced Tab' if the panel 'Keyboard and Mouse' to change the acceleration of the mouse but i didn't find something to change the sensitivity16:58
swattoHello all, anyone know an alternate bluetooth application I can use.  WHen I try and send a file with kbluetooth it sends the file and then at a 100% comes up with a obex.link error17:00
Mamarok_swatto: both devices know each other?17:00
swattoyes I think so17:00
Pconfigswatto: you could use 'bluetooth-applet' and file a bug report on kbluetooth17:01
swattoill try sending a file and tell you the exact message I get, two secs17:01
Mamarok_swatto: there have been reports of transmission only working in one direction17:01
swattoI havent tried sending a file from the phone, i could try that17:02
Mamarok_swatto: "yes, I think so" is not enough, are you sure?17:02
Mamarok_both devices must see eachother and know eachother17:02
Mamarok_know = identify to each other17:02
swattowell my phone picks up my computer and accepts the transfer and it starts transferring17:02
Mamarok_ok, that side works17:03
Pconfigjado: what's wrong with changing the acceleration?17:03
GnuBoiisn't there any wiki documentation for enabling mp3,flash,dvd in kubuntu17:03
Mamarok_GnuBoi: you need to install the necessary Codecs17:03
Mamarok_!codecs17:03
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats17:03
PconfigGnuBoi: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted17:03
GnuBoiPconfig: wait it is installing firefox after i will reply17:04
xjjkPconfig, GnuBoi: I think it's kubuntu-restricted-extras17:05
Pconfigxjjk, my bad, you're right :)17:05
GnuBoiujjwol@GnuBoi:~$ sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras17:05
GnuBoiReading package lists... Done17:05
GnuBoiBuilding dependency tree17:05
GnuBoiReading state information... Done17:05
GnuBoiE: Couldn't find package kubuntu-restricted-extras17:05
xjjkGnuBoi: just wondering, have you enabled the non-free repositories and what not17:07
GnuBoiwhat does that mena17:07
GnuBoii have just installed kubunutu is now installing firefox17:07
PconfigGnuBoi: open kpackagekit, go to settings, click edit software sources, then check multiverse17:08
swattoI have managed to send a file to my computer fine, but recieving a file on my phone doesnt work17:08
reficgotta install some daily build I guess17:09
Mamarok_swatto: then it's a bug, I think there already is one in Launchpad for it, wait...17:09
Mamarok_refic: what do you mean?17:09
swattowhat is launchpad?17:09
Xcellmy update manager has 4 blocked items..and i cant do anything with it.. how to fix?17:10
GnuBoiPconfig: it is already ticked17:10
reficI was just talking to myself.. I'm downloading kubuntu 9.10 daily build17:10
jadoPconfig: changing the acceleration is not as changing the sensitivity17:10
Mamarok_swatto: Launchpad is the place where X/K/Ubuntu related bugs are reported, it also hosts a lot of other services17:11
Mamarok_!Launchpad17:11
ubottuLaunchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/17:11
PconfigGnuBoi, that's odd, does kpackagekit find the package?17:12
swattothankyou mamarok17:12
Mamarok_you are welcome, swatto :)17:12
GnuBoiapt-get,kpackagekit cannot find find even firefox17:12
swattoi love this channel :P17:12
GnuBoiaptitude is now working to install firefox17:13
Mamarok_swatto: you use Jaunty, right?17:13
swattoyep17:13
Pconfigjado: you sure this isn't the case on linux either? it feels like it's the same for me when i play with it17:14
PconfigGnuBoi: what does 'sudo apt-get update' do for you?17:14
* jussi01 waves in Mamarok_'s direction17:15
GnuBoiit is now downloading packages17:15
Mamarok_swatto: there are seemingly a lot of bugs for kbluetooth in Launchpad, but I think this is the one:17:16
Mamarok_https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/obexpushd/+bug/18365817:16
GnuBoiPconfig: it has done17:17
GnuBoinow how to enable mp317:17
Pconfigsudo apt-get update worked?17:17
swattoMamarok: hehe, I was just looking at that - unfortunately mine is the other way around, I cannot send to my phone but I can recieve17:17
Pconfignow try sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras17:17
GnuBoisudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras17:17
GnuBoiE: Couldn't find package kubuntu-restricted-extras17:18
Mamarok_swatto: yes, but I think the problem is the same, for some people it works that way, for others the other way around17:18
GnuBoiE: Couldn't find package kubuntu-restricted-extras17:18
swattoahh ok, well ill wait and see what the outcome is mamarok.  I have registered on launchpad anyway17:19
Mamarok_swatto: just subscribe to the bug, so you get notified if there are some changes17:19
PconfigGnuBoi: that's very odd:|17:20
GnuBoiapt-get install choqok also doesnot work17:20
GnuBoionly firefox got installed17:20
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Ahmuckhi.  i noticed that it appears that kubuntu has replaced a lot of kde apps with odd apps, ie, quassel, dragon player, etc.17:22
Ahmuckanybody know the reasoning behind this?17:23
jussi01Ahmuck: the old ones were not ported at time of release17:24
reficdragon player is something I've been wondering too.. it simply sucks imo17:24
Ahmuckjussi01: ok, thx17:24
DragnslcrI believe Quassel was made the default because the KDE4 version of Konversation isn't ready yet17:24
Ahmuckso, assuming that they get ported for the next release, will the apps be changing again?17:24
reficwhat's the status of those apps nowadays?17:24
jussi01Ahmuck: I guess that depends on the quality and so on.17:25
Ahmuckessentially, kde is still stuck at 3.x because of porting17:25
jussi01refic: best to go look at the individual home pages of the apps17:25
reficyeah, guess so17:25
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jussi01abyway, to discuss it lets move to #kubuntu-offtopic - any support questions here. :)17:26
Ahmuckthis kinda puts kde4 in beta mode still, and kubuntu 9.04 in limbo mode17:26
refichehe yeah17:26
Ahmuckheh, installing a fresh install of kubuntu 9.04 and not finding the familiar apps is a support question, no ?17:26
Ahmuckk, amarok in kubuntu 9.04 is not opening pls streams17:27
Ahmuckwhat changed between kubuntu 8.04.1 and kubuntu 9.04 that causes online radio pls streams not to play17:29
GnuBoiPconfig: ok bye, this(multiverse repo) is not figured out, screen rendering is slow and bad so i think i need to stick with my stable fedora configuration, thanks for your time and reply....17:30
jussi01Ahmuck: as far as I remember amarok got upgraded?17:30
GnuBoiok bye17:30
UnununiumKubuntu 9.04: How do I use the KDE Display Size & Orientation dialog to configure a multi-head setup?  I can only get the two displays to overlay each other.17:31
ksalhi all17:31
refichello17:32
ksali'm on kubuntu jaunty, i've got such a problem, that when I i.e open amarok and play music and then open konqueror or any other browser or application that has some sounds, i can only hear a sound from amarok.17:33
ksaland it doesn't matter if i pause music, i still have sound only in amarok as if it is reserved for it.17:33
ksalmaybe someone knows the answer?17:34
phhUnununium: if it's like for nvidia you can drag&drop screens17:34
UnununiumATI, actually, using the radeon driver.  Drag&drop does nothing.  All screens have their upper-left corner at (0,0).17:34
m0r0nAnyone willing to help me out on uninstalling Ubuntu, or helping me fix something so I don't have to17:35
XcellI have 4 packages stuck in update manager.. how and what should be done?17:36
ksalXcell: run update from terminal17:37
Xcelli did..they are still there17:37
kremsnerhy there17:37
kremsnerI got a problem with jaunty. Everytime I want to log in the ICEauthority has no writeaccess to my user17:37
ksalstrange, AFAIK, packagekit isn't yet capable of updates that have dependency packages to install.17:37
kremsnerso I switch to console and chown it17:38
kremsnerbut after a reboot I have to do it again17:38
swattoman im bored.....17:38
Xcellwell it has 4 kernel updates stuck in it and nothing works as far as installing them..it says (4 blocked packages)17:38
ksaldid you try 'sudo apt-get upgrade' ?17:39
DragnslcrXcell- same thing here. I don't think it's a real problem17:39
Xcellyes.. and all is fine..i just want to clear the package mngr so it is clear from this17:39
ksalso you have to make these updates17:40
kremsnerI got a problem with jaunty. Everytime I want to log in the ICEauthority has no writeaccess to my user. so I switch to console and chown it. but after a reboot I have to do it again17:40
ksalin terminal there shouldn't be problems17:41
Xcelli did sudo apt-get update.. its fine there.. i just want the pkg mngr cleaned up17:41
UnununiumAlso, I am having some display corruption issues with the "radeon" driver and would like to use "fglrx" (which works for me in Slackware).  However, my card is no longer supported, so I need an older version of the driver.  Can I get an old package, or do I have to do a manual install?17:42
tsukasahello17:42
phhUnderliner: check the result of aptitude search fglrx17:43
Xcellalso.. compiz is installed and the cube only works 2 dtops..i have 4 on the panel but 4 do not show any cube...interesting17:43
tsukasasomeone can tell me how to run kismet or if it is the same wireshark?17:43
phhi think it would give you the old versions too17:43
Ahmuckjussi01: sorry, steped away.  yes, as far as i knew, it was upgraded, but i'm unable to get a simple stream i was playing before the upgrade to play17:45
Ahmuckis there a way to turn off effects in kde4 ?17:49
jussi01Ahmuck: system settings - desktop17:50
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kremsnerI got a problem with jaunty. Everytime I want to log in the ICEauthority has no writeaccess to my user. so I switch to console and chown it. but after a reboot I have to do it again17:51
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kremsnerI got a problem with jaunty. Everytime I want to log in the ICEauthority has no writeaccess to my user. so I switch to console and chown it. but after a reboot I have to do it again18:00
Peace-kremsner: it's easy18:01
Peace-sudo adduser NAME18:01
Peace-sudo adduser NAME admin18:01
Peace-create another user with admin stuff18:02
Peace-and so you can delete the old file on your .kde18:02
Tm_TPeace-: how that has to do with that issue?18:02
afeijowhere can I edit $PATH to add a new folder?18:02
kremsnerPeace: y?18:02
kremsnerneed to permanently make iceauthority writeable18:03
Peace-then you can try to fix the old stuff18:03
Peace-i had that problem and i have deleted  iceautoriryty file18:03
Peace-if i remember well18:03
kremsnerdeleted it already18:03
kremsnerdidnt work18:04
Tm_TPeace-: one don't need to create new user for that, son18:04
Peace-Tm_T: i have fixed in that way.18:04
Peace-Tm_T: next time instead of sleep write your solution.18:04
Tm_TPeace-: I don't know the solution, but I can tell if one is totally wrong18:04
Peace-Tm_T: dude i use linux from 3 years18:05
Peace-and that is my experience18:05
Peace-if you wanna try well18:05
Peace-if not there is not problem is not mine problem18:05
Peace-my18:05
Peace-kremsner: try this18:06
afeijowhere can I edit $PATH to add a new folder?18:06
Tm_Tafeijo: for one user or whole system?18:06
Peace-kremsner: create another user and try to fix the other user using the new icefiles18:06
afeijoTm_T: for me its enough :)18:06
afeijoTm_T: I checked .bashrc and didnt find18:06
Peace-afeijo: sudo updatedb && locate bashrc | grep $USER18:07
Tm_Tafeijo: add there then, one way is to add "export PATH=/newpath;PATH" to your .bashrc18:07
afeijooh ok Tm_T thanks18:07
afeijoTm_T:  newpath;PATH or newpath:PATH ?18:08
Tm_Tafeijo: : that is, my bad18:08
afeijono problem!!18:08
swattohmm thats strange, konversation is not autojoining the two channels I have set, it only joins this one18:10
swattoany ideas anyone?18:12
ghoulygood evening all, i recently upgraded from hardy to jaunty on my laptop, when i rightclick on the battery icon in the taskbar at the bottom right i can select CPU policy : powersave/dynamic/performance.    everytime i switch from dynamic to powersave, the screen is locked, which is annoying, but it's not when i switch from powersave to dynamic, any idea how i can deactivate the screenlock please ?18:13
ghouly(locked as in it turns black, and when i move the mouse it asks for password)18:13
Tm_Tghouly: have you looked around powersaving settings?18:15
ghoulyTm_T there is something "lock screen on resume", i thought this was for hibernate or something, i now deactivated it, and it doesn't ask for a password anymore18:17
ghoulybut it still turns black for a second18:17
Tm_Tghouly: aye, weird still indeed, seems like there gets something triggered in wrong place18:17
hunter_help. i will install ubuntu and crunchbang on a falsh disk. i have the image .iso already downloada but i know how i can istall it on my usb.18:18
hunter_flash disk,18:18
Tm_T!usb18:18
ubottuFor information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent18:18
Tm_Thunter_: check that18:18
hunter_preapare the usb stick, great, what does it mean? #18:20
hunter_formating?18:20
ghoulyanyway at least i don't have to enter the password all the time, thanks Tm_T  =)18:20
ghoulyhave a nice evening18:20
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swattoAnyone know a support channel for Konversation - it is not auto-joining to multiple channels18:22
Tm_T#konversation ?18:22
swattocheers :)18:23
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hunter_thanks 4 the links but they are not helpfull18:30
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hunter_anybody know how to install linux on usb? .iso is already here18:32
phhwell.. just.. install it.18:33
phh(yes it's that simple.)18:33
hunter_funny..18:33
hunter_great help, thx18:33
phhthe same way as you would do with a hard drive18:33
hunter_somebody smart enough to help me?18:33
hunter_nope. but thx18:33
phh....18:34
smurfsloverhunter_: you mean you don't know what do to with the .iso file18:34
smurfslover?18:34
hunter_exact18:34
phh....18:34
phhi assume it was meant to be explicit.18:34
smurfsloverfirst of all don't extract it18:34
smurfsloveryou need to write it to cd as an image18:35
hunter_i am reading the whole day in internet, nothing, everything, every page with some §help" is different to the others and not helpfull18:35
hunter_done18:35
hunter_on cd, .iso18:35
smurfsloverthen boot your computer from the cd18:36
hunter_ok, something else, i habve the crunchbang on the cd as .iso, and i want to install this crunchbang on usb18:37
swattoAnyone know how I can make my GUI font bigger and more clearly please - its awfully tiny because of my monitor size18:37
smurfsloverswatto: systemsettings/appearance/fonts18:38
swattothankyou smurfslover18:39
littlehunter: Did you burn Ubuntu to CD as an image?18:39
smurfsloverthere's an option to make them all bigger but you can better play with the settings tell you got it the way you want18:39
hunter_i can not boot a .iso. can i?18:39
smurfsloverin a virtual machine18:40
smurfsloverbut not on real hardware18:40
hunter_hwo18:40
hunter_how18:40
smurfsloverwhat operating system do you use now?18:40
hunter_ubuntu 8-04 is running, i want to install from the cd, .iso crunchbang, to the usb.. so,18:41
jussi01hunter_: you want to install from a usb?18:43
hunter_and, if i type this, fdisk /dev/sda, i get this, Die Anzahl der Zylinder für diese Platte ist auf 19457 gesetzt18:43
smurfsloverhunter_: it is possible but won't be easy18:43
hunter_no from cd (.iso crunchbang) to the usb18:43
smurfsloverbetter burn the iso to cd, then run the livecd or installcd to install it18:43
hunter_how18:43
hunter_nero, i know,,18:43
jussi01!usb18:44
ubottuFor information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent18:44
hunter_but there must be another way. like this... http://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-ubuntu-804-persistent-install-from-linux/#more-40118:44
smurfsloverthx jussi01 interesting :)18:44
hunter_i already read this, not helpfull18:44
smurfsloverbut he wants to install crunchbang to usb18:45
hunter_always error messages18:45
hunter_well, i have also ubuntu 9.04 on cd, as .iso18:45
littlehunter_: How about this page: http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-install-ubuntu-linux-on-usb-bar18:45
JukeBoxHerohey, what are the kde4 styles you guys got in repos?18:46
smurfsloverJukeBoxHero: bespin is there and that's all i need :)18:47
smurfsloverno qt4 version of kmess in the repo yet?18:49
hunter_if i type this, sudo fdisk /dev/sdb i get this, Befehl (m für Hilfe):  then i open the help and see that there is the "n" 4 new parition. but i get kick back to the help menue18:50
hunter_it says, it is FAT. how can i change it?18:51
littlehunter_: Are you comfortable with opening up your computer and disconnecting your hard drive(s)?18:52
estananyone having serious performance regressions with intel graphics in the intrepid->jaunty upgrade? i'm running KDE+qt-copy trunk (so not kubuntu packages), and i haven't recompiled since i did the upgrade (maybe i should do that first and see if it makes a difference). e.g. switching between windows and minimize/maximize has become very slow since the upgrade.18:53
hunter_sure. but for which reason?18:53
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Piciestan: That issue was mentioned in the release notes.18:54
estanPici: looking at the Known Issues for the release, i can't see anything about bad performance with intel graphics, just a note about Qt repaint bugs.18:54
coutts99estan: jaunty sucks for intel18:54
hunter_i can not start a .iso from cd. or? i mean, if i restart my pc, have the iso inside18:54
Picihttp://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/904#Performance%20regressions%20on%20Intel%20graphics%20cards18:54
littlehunter_: If you burn the .iso file to a CD as an image, then shut down the computer with the CD in the drive, then disconnect the hard drive(s), then boot with the CD, then insert the USB drive, then it will install to the USB drive.18:54
estancoutts99: do you know if there's a way to downgrade to an earlier intel driver version?18:55
hunter_sure?#18:55
estanPici: but maybe that's what the note meant, i should check the bug that is linked to..18:55
coutts99estan: I upgraded the kernel to 2.6.29 and added the xorg edgers ppa and it kinda fixed it. I'm running karmic now though18:55
coutts99estan: search the forums, theres loads of posts about it18:55
estancoutts99: alright thanks. do you use UXA?18:57
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coutts99estan: yes, it is fixable, it's just a pain in the arse18:57
coutts99estan: IMHO it is a big flaw and should have been fix for jaunty18:57
estancoutts99: amen to that ;)18:58
dylan_anyone here know anything about getting kde 3.5 in xubuntu 9.04 ?18:58
coutts99estan: nearly made me move to another distro18:58
jussi01estan: if you look at the release nots it has suggested fixes18:58
jussi01https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyJackalope/ReleaseNotes18:58
estanjussi01: ah that's a much better page. i was just looking at the Known Issues section in the release announcement. thanks.18:58
jussi01estan: ahh18:59
dylan_I installed a package from pearson computing and it installed all the kde 3.5 apps to /opt/kde3/bin, but I am not sure if I run these programs from there if my computer will screw up or not, or do I need to set paths, or envir variables, ??18:59
estancoutts99: by "fixable" you mean it's fixable by just enabling UXA? or you need to add the xorg edgers ppa too?18:59
coutts99estan: it was a few weeks ago when I tried, I had to upgrade kernel, enable uxa, and the xorg edgers helped19:00
estancoutts99: alright.19:00
dylan_I found this page    https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Kde3/Jaunty,    but I am not sure where to set the envir variables19:00
coutts99estan: try this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582&highlight=jaunty+intel19:00
estancoutts99: ah thanks.19:02
coutts99anyone know how I can retrive a lost password from nickserv? been a while since a irc'd :)19:02
ubunturosanyone who has downloaded Kubuntu 9.04 through Bit torrents in the past or current week?19:02
ubunturosthe torrent simply stalls in KTorrent and appears as if there are *no* seeders :(19:02
estancoutts99: just a last question, that guide says that xorg-edgers ppa will bring in 2.6.30-rc5.. is that what you're on now? any instabilities? the guide says that x-updates ppa will give you 2.6.29.19:05
coutts99estan: I am on 2.6.30-rc5, but I'm running karmic, no problems at all with 2.6.30 though19:06
coutts99estan: you can always tab at the grub menu and boot your previous kernel should the worst happen :)19:06
coutts99estan: i'd give 2.6.30 a try if i were you19:06
estancoutts99: that's true. *puts on helmet and adds repo*. ;)19:06
coutts99estan: good luck!19:07
estani'm just trying to remember if i need any restricted drivers, but i don't think so.. it's all intel.. the 3945 intel wifi isn't restricted is it?19:08
coutts99estan: don't think so, grrr restricted drivers for ati is another thing I hate :)19:08
juacom99hi, i just download Kubuntu 9.04 64amd, i copy the .iso to a windows machine using samba and then burn a cd. The cd buring finish ok. but when i boot from it and select install kubuntu or select the live i get a I/o Error in severals memory blocks. any idea what may be happening?19:09
estanyea.. i never had an ati. i have nvidia on the desktop though and it's been a pain from time to time.19:10
coutts99estan: i have ati on my daughters computer and the restricted drivers just will no work, so no 3d accel. It's driving me mad!19:10
estanjust checked and iwl3945 seems to not be in restricted.. hm hm. could there be something else..19:10
estancoutts99: :/19:11
coutts99estan: she really wants supertux2 and tuxcart!19:11
estancoutts99: aww.19:12
coutts99estan: you should be fine, just give it a whirl, you can always remove 2.6.30 if you have problems!19:12
juacom99any idea what's happening?? if i boot with a cd with kubuntu 8.10 it boot ok19:12
coutts99juacom99: bad cd?19:12
juacom99is the 2º time it happend19:12
juacom99:S19:12
juacom99with 2 diferents cds :S19:12
coutts99does the md5 checksum checkout?19:12
estanif you ever get it working, depending on your daughter's age, i can really recommend that goo-something game that was released for linux a while ago.19:12
juacom99i check the md5sum19:12
juacom99and is ok19:12
coutts99estan: yeah i've got the demo on my laptop :)19:12
estancoutts99: world of goo, that's the name.19:12
estanah.19:13
coutts99not showing her until i get the ati working though or i'll not get her off my laptop!19:13
estanheh.19:13
coutts99juacom99: have you tried it on another machine?19:13
ubunturosis anyone currently downloading Kubuntu 9.04 through the torrent file on kubuntu.org ?19:13
juacom99nop19:14
juacom99ubunturos: i download it from the torrent19:14
ubunturosjuacom99: apparently, the torrent file is stalling on Ktorrent19:14
ubunturosjuacom99: as if there are *no* seeders :(19:14
juacom99the 64amd have some seeders19:15
juacom99from me at last19:15
coutts99ubunturos: post the link to torrent and ill try it19:15
ubunturosjuacom99: hmm, I'm looking for i38619:15
juacom99is the kubuntu shipping  page down??19:16
ubunturosjuacom99: http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/simple/jaunty/desktop/kubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent19:16
ubunturoserr, coutts99, ^19:16
coutts99ubunturos: link not opening :\19:17
juacom99coutts99: is working for me19:17
ubunturoscoutts99: that's a torrent link, you'll have to copy the link and paste in Ktorrent19:17
coutts99hang on :)19:17
ubunturoscoutts99: the page's here: http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download19:17
coutts99oops it is working :)19:17
coutts99585 seeders downloadin at full 10mb19:18
ubunturoscoutts99: I'll try again19:24
juacom99is this web https://shipit.kubuntu.org/ working for you guys?19:25
coutts99juacom99: yes it loads19:25
juacom99mm i get a certification error :S19:26
coutts99cert seems ok to me19:27
juacom99maybe is my machine :S19:29
juacom99is my firefox19:29
coutts99maybe19:29
juacom99i try in konkeros and is working19:29
coutts99does konqueror work?19:29
coutts99ah :)19:29
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timohi there, I just upgraded to ubuntu 9.04, but when I try to boot it, it says "Error 15: file not found."   What do I do?19:31
ubunturosargh! for reasons unknown, I'm unable to download19:31
coutts99timo: iv seen that before, i *think* i re-ran grub install to fix it19:32
coutts99timo: try searching the forums19:32
timook thanks I will19:32
HfXcool. bin grade in ner live session auf 9.04 und muss sagen, fühlt sich schneller an als 8.10 bei mir auf der kiste!19:36
Pici!de19:37
ubottuIn den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.19:37
HfXups19:37
HfXsorry19:37
HfXjust wanted to say I am in a live session from cd on hp 6735b notebook. wlan works and the feeling of the system is very fast! - nice 9.0419:38
SteBoHi! There is an announcment about KDE 4.3 Beta 1 packages for Jaunty on Kubuntu.org, but when I add the repository, no upgrade is offered.19:38
SteBoHfX: So install it! :-)19:39
coutts99SteBo: I'm on 4.3 (well my work machine is, don;t work at home though) and it is brilliant :) I'm using karmic though!19:39
HfXSteBo: need my system for work running vmwares with windows. will have to find time to insert a new drive and then install so having a full immediately fallback. but I surely will do it.19:40
SteBoHfX: Great. :-) Maybe you could use the Linux version of VMWare at one point.19:41
SteBocoutts99: Nice to hear. :-) But I still wonder about that announcement and where the Jaunty packages are.19:41
HfXSteBo: I am. I ran 8.04 and xp in vm but need that on a daily basis so no option to make experiments. that's what I ment19:42
SteBoHfX: Ah, ok.19:42
stodgeIs rekonq available for kubuntu?19:42
estancoutts99: the guide worked fine, perforance is snappier than ever now. thx!19:43
estan*performance.19:43
coutts99estan: good news! IMO jaunty should never have been released until this was ironed out, once I get the chance i'm changing distro again, maybe back to gentoo, or possibly sabayon19:44
estancoutts99: yea, i've been eyeballing arch. tried it on my dads laptop briefly. but i just don't have time to fiddle with changing distro right now.19:45
coutts99estan: same here, busy busy busy :)19:45
estancoutts99: just about to start gsoc, so don't want to wreak havoc on my laptop ;)19:45
* estan back to homework with that trouble out of the way. bbl.19:46
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* coutts99 is off to watch the footy, ha'way the lads!19:56
Virkhi everyone19:59
ubunturos!hi | Virk20:00
ubottuVirk: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!20:00
VirkI just saw the announcement on the kubuntu homepage that kde4.3 beta 1 is now in the experimental repos20:00
Virkhowever, it seems that it is not :) No packeges to update here ...20:01
SteBoVirk: It seems the packages aren't really there...20:03
* SteBo wonders about this too.20:03
Virkyeah, I thought so too, maybe the announcement is placed a bit too early?20:03
SteBoVirk: Looks like someone pressed a "publish" button a bit too early, yeah.20:04
Virkiic, it'll be for this week they said20:05
mark____The application Plasma Workspace (plasma) crashed and caused the signal 11 (SIGSEGV) ......... does any1 know what this means?20:05
SteBomark____: Your desktop shell (the plasma process) crashed.20:06
mark____oh ok20:06
SteBoVirk: What does iic mean?20:08
Virkin every case20:08
Virklol20:08
Virkhaha, bad translation of a dutch abbreviation, which I thought was english as well :p20:08
SteBolol :-) good thing, I asked. ;-)20:09
SteBobye20:11
not_guiltyhey all20:24
canenanyone having stablility issues with kmail?20:34
caneni've actually had to switch to thunderbird :(20:34
canenagain20:34
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Pollywogis kgpg in Jaunty broken?  all of a sudden it will not encrypt files20:44
Pollywogbut I can encrypt on the command line20:44
PollywogI should have stuck with KDE 3.5.x a little longer20:46
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ralmarHey guys Im having a really weird problem with Ekiga Softphone (voip application). Everytime I open it up and start a call the network resource monitor in the system monitor says that i start uploading like crazy (550+ KB/s), when I only have roughly 30 KB/s (max connection upload speed). And during this time of massive upload, my call does not get disconnected in the sense that the time keeps on running, but i lose audio on the call, it actually does stop20:59
ralmarand if i open firefox i cant go to any website, not even google.com will load. However when I close ekiga, the crazy uploading stops and i can browse the web again. What could this be? Thanks20:59
picasso_problem connecting with vpnc resolvconf: Error: /etc/resolv.conf must be a symlink,21:05
picasso_anybody has a fix for that, I cannot access my vpn'd sites (internal work network)21:06
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joe_Dthacker...in Omaha?21:12
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* wirechief back.21:25
robin0800can't connect to wireless network in kubuntu (karmic) ubuntu (Karmic) works fine21:26
Eismannrobin0800: it is an alpha version, is normal that it fails21:30
zoisshi guys i got a problem with my kubuntu paketmanager. i tried to add a software source to install the new kde version and i only added the url ...and forgot the "deb" and the "jaunty main". since that the installer is damaged and it shows errors messegas in the update tab21:36
zoisslike "Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)"21:36
zoissdoes anyone how to fix that?21:36
zoissKPackageKit21:36
JontheEchidnacan you go back to the software sources editor, or will it not let you do that?21:37
zoissi can, yes21:37
JontheEchidnadoes it show the incorrect line?21:38
zoissone moment pls21:38
JontheEchidnaif not, you can run "kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list" and fix the line from a text editor21:38
zoissah there it is21:39
zoissstill not fixed21:40
zoissshouldnt it ask for a password JontheEchidna ?21:42
zoissoh i forgot to delete a further line ...now its working again21:43
zoissthank you very much21:43
JontheEchidna:)21:43
zoissdid kdesudo already save password for my home account'?21:44
lovredoes anyone know a channel i can ask about signal processing, DSP, analog to digital converters etc?21:50
robinrtry http://searchirc.com/21:51
* desu is on kde 4.3 beta121:53
desuit's kinda nice, 'cept for the occasional quirks (which are to be expected from a beta)21:53
xjjkdesu: how stable is it21:54
desuquite stable...21:54
desuworking fine till now...21:54
xjjkbrings up another question... is KDE 4.2.3 going to be available in jaunty-backports21:54
desu'cept, one of the icons doesn't show up >_>21:54
desu4.2.3 is already available for jaunty, iirc...21:55
xjjkas a PPA21:55
xjjknot in the main repositories21:55
desuxjjk: you mean like this one: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2.3 ?21:55
xjjkdesu: not in A PPA...21:56
lovrerobinr: ty21:56
desuxjjk: you mean in the main repositories?21:57
desui have no idea...21:57
xjjkdesu: yes, if it was going to be in the main repositories it'd be available in jaunty-backports or jaunty-updates21:57
xjjksince 4.2.3 is only bugfixes21:57
macowhere can i enable horizontal scrolling in kubuntu?21:59
lovrei have this odd panel behaviour, i configure it to stay below all windows, but it still appears on top of everything when i get to left screen edge with my mouse. I want it to allways stay below, but that doesnt seem to configurable. any cure?22:01
rmrfslashAnyone usin KDE 4.3b1?22:03
morice-netplease, I would like to add two things to pass from one desk to another : *first, when the cursor pass through the border of the desk *then, when you press ctrl + alt + -> or ctrl + alt + <- (like on ubuntu)22:10
xjjkmorice-net: you need to set keybindings for that22:10
morice-netI have two lines of two desks (so 4 desks)... could someone help me ?22:10
morice-netxjjk: how can i do that ?22:11
xjjkmorice-net: go into system settings, and then Keyboard & Mouse22:11
xjjkthen Global Keyboard Shortcuts, then select the KWin component22:12
xjjkset a key binding for "Switch to Next Desktop" and "Switch to Previous Desktop"22:12
morice-netxjjk: thank you, the second is running really good :)22:16
xjjkmorice-net: great22:16
xjjkmorice-net: I've been meaning to file a bug with kde.org or kubuntu to make this default22:16
xjjkit used to be in KDE 3.522:16
morice-netxjjk: ok... the default is good too : ctrl + f1 (or f2 f3 ...)22:17
xjjkmorice-net: that's only for numbered desktops, not next/previous22:17
morice-netyes22:17
morice-netxjjk: and for the mouse ?22:18
xjjkmorice-net: what about the mouse22:20
morice-netxjjk: change the desktop when the cursor pass through the border of the desk22:21
morice-netAnother thing, I don't want to see things that are not on the active desktop bottom22:21
morice-net(between the KMenu and desks shower)22:22
jamesjedimasterover the background, use the scroll down/up22:22
morice-netjamesjedimaster: that's not what i need22:23
morice-netjamesjedimaster: but thznk you !22:23
morice-nets/thznk/thank22:23
xjjkmorice-net: all of that is configurable...22:23
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morice-netxjjk: that's what I would like to know how22:24
xjjkmorice-net: hrm, not sure about moving to the next desktop22:24
desurmrfslash: i am22:24
desuand it's running great22:24
desu<322:24
xjjkmorice-net: you can set the settings for the task switching applet, somewhere22:25
xjjknot sure where22:25
morice-netxjjk: ok, i'll look at that22:26
xjjkmorice-net: ah, click teh cashew22:26
xjjkthen right click on the task manager, task manager settings22:26
xjjkthere's a checkbox there for show only from the current desktop22:26
morice-netxjjk: ok, good22:27
rmrfslashdesu: cool. production ready?22:28
navetz_hey guys, my digital camera takes about 60MB for a 45 second video, it is a mpg, is there anyway to convert this to something smaller without losing to much quality?22:28
morice-netxjjk: it's running good... thank you ! <322:29
desurmrfslash: not very, but sorta, yeah... there are a few quirks... like windows keep resizing (as in, ONLY the image of the window painted on the screen) randomly and some icons are missing...22:30
desuother than that, it's okay...22:30
rmrfslashdesu: I might wait for a rc22:30
desulol22:31
rmrfslashdesu: I mean, sometimes I feel like kde 4.2.3 is still beta.... I can only imagine what is considered "beta"22:31
desukde 4 itself is still in beta22:31
rmrfslashdesu: they're marketing it as production22:32
desumicrosoft has marketed windows as "production" for quite a long time, and nobody complained :P22:33
morice-netoxygen is really beautiful... I'm happy to be on KUbuntu !22:34
Sevenhillhi what is the channel for (k)ubuntu-devel ?22:43
ign0ramusyoyoyo22:43
ign0ramusSevenhill, lol.  #kubuntu-devel22:45
Sevenhillign0ramus: no i mean #ubuntu+122:45
Sevenhillbut i found it :)22:45
ign0ramusSevenhill, ok. congrats :)22:45
wizardslovakso i just unstalled wine and i want to run traktor pro on it22:48
wizardslovaki did install it but when i want to run it it doesnt22:49
donald_say i wanted to install an mmo. how would i do so?22:50
ign0ramuswizardslovak, that app doesn't work with wine.  yet... http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=14789&iTestingId=3454822:50
ign0ramusdonald_, i would google "ubuntu" "wine" "name_of_game"22:51
ign0ramusdonald_, unless you want to install a native linux game... in which case, see here: http://www.linuxgames.com/22:51
wizardslovakdamn22:52
wizardslovakso is there other software (linux native) i can use for DJ?22:52
ign0ramuswizardslovak, let me see...22:52
wizardslovak;)22:53
ign0ramuswizardslovak, maybe http://www.mixxx.org/ ??22:53
wizardslovakrewiesz arent good tho22:54
ZoraelHow do I browse Quassel's logs? They seem to be stored in an sqlite database, and I sort of want to save a conversation I have logged to a file.22:55
ign0ramuswizardslovak, i've never used any dj software for linux... search around... mixxx is constantly being updated and bugfixed... worth trying out, no?22:55
wizardslovakign0ramus: well good point , ill try it lol problem is i got free traktor pro and i cant use it lolz22:56
donald_nah im looking to install flyff22:57
ign0ramusZorael, can you use python to dump logs?22:57
ign0ramusZorael, or even more suitable for you, can you set quassel to keep plain-text logs in a user-defined location?22:57
ign0ramusdonald_, not an option right now :( http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=325322:58
Virkhi22:58
Zoraelign0ramus: I don't have the python knowhow, and quassel insofar seems to be very plain with little in terms of configuration22:58
ign0ramusZorael, that's why i use Konversation :)22:58
VirkI just tried upgrading to kde4.3 with the experimental ppa22:58
donald_thats what im seeing22:58
ign0ramusZorael, but you should be able to open up those sqlite logs22:58
ign0ramusZorael, try here: http://bugs.quassel-irc.org/wiki/1/Quassel_Logging22:59
Virknow kdebase-runtime is broken and I don't feel lijke uninstalling everything and then installing it back again22:59
Zoraelign0ramus: That looks like just what I need, cheers. And yeah, once I have those logs extracted maybe then's a good time to switch back to Konversation :322:59
dabblerVirk:  I am downloding 4.2.3 as we speak  :(23:00
ign0ramusZorael, np. you should check out the kde4 port of konversation if youre interested... its on their site under 'svn'  ;)23:00
ign0ramusdabbler, no, 4.2.3 is ok... 4.3 is not ready23:01
Zoraelign0ramus: I think I have it on one of the ppas I use; 1.1.75+svn965785-0ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa123:01
dabblergreat :)23:01
Zoraelign0ramus: two of them even, likely kubuntu-experimentals and kubuntu-ppa/experimental or /updates23:01
Virkthere's something wrong with there 4.3 packages I guess23:02
ign0ramusZorael, could be.... if not, you can get it direct here: http://konversation.kde.org/wiki/SVN23:02
Zoraelign0ramus: all right, thanks, will do¨23:02
Zorael~*23:02
Virkinstalling kde-runtime-data complains about wanting to overwrite a file /usr/share/kde4/apps/kstyle/themes/oxygen.themerc', which is also in package kde-icons-oxygen23:02
ZoraelVirk: Yeah, I had to install that one with --force-overwrite23:02
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rmrfslashwhen the heck will a new fglrx com out?23:03
rmrfslashJaunty has been out for-frickin'-ever23:03
Zoraelign0ramus: The dump script did the trick, many thanks. :323:04
ign0ramusZorael, np man.  how i dislike quassel!23:05
VirkZorael: where do I put this forece overwrite? neither apt-get or aptitude recognise it..23:06
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ZoraelVirk: dpkg -i --force-overwrite <deb>23:07
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desuooo seems like i'm not the only one getting problems installing 4.323:07
VirkZorael: thanks23:08
ZoraelVirk: The .deb itself should be in your /var/cache/apt/archives/23:08
Virkjep, figured that out :)23:08
Zorael:>23:08
ign0ramusdesu, as i'm sure you know, 4.3 should be used for testing/developing only at this stage23:08
* desu knows :323:09
desubut it's pretty nice ^__^23:09
white_pelicanwhere do I get help with kde 4.3 beta 1 for Jaunty?23:09
desu'cept for the problem with some icons :/23:09
desuwhite_pelican: here, i suppose23:09
ign0ramusdesu, everyone's been saying that... even with the default oxygen ones O_o23:09
* desu nods23:09
white_pelicanI just tried to upgrade from 4.2.3 to 4.3 beta 123:10
white_pelicanin Jaunty23:10
white_pelicanI added the required repository to sources.list23:10
white_pelicanthen did apt-get update23:10
desuspeaking of which, time to update the topic, maybe...?23:10
white_pelicanthe dist-upgrade23:10
desu"For KDE 4.3 repositories: Patience, we are working on it, check http://www.kubuntu.org for announcements"23:10
white_pelicanI was in the middle of the upgrade and it bombed23:11
desuwhite_pelican: conflicting files?23:11
white_pelicanyes desu23:11
drbobbhello, anyone tried the kde4.3 beta1? how's the experience?23:12
white_pelicanwe were just duscussing that23:13
desuwhite_pelican: for each package that conflicts, do `dpkg -i --force-overwrite <package>' and then do `apt-get -f install; apt-get dist-upgrade'... lather, rinse and repeat until there are no conflicts23:13
white_pelicanlol23:13
drbobbaww I'm late then. What's the exec summary?23:13
Virkjep, just finished that myself :)23:13
desudrbobb: <3, 'cept for some icons...23:14
drbobbwhassa matter with the icons?23:14
ZoraelSmall note, aptitude is better at resolving dependencies, so while it can't handle the --force-overwriting, it *can* do a better job than apt at getting mutual dependencies fixed without having to apt-get install -f over and over again23:14
desu_some_ icons show up as the "?" icons23:14
VirkI also had a conflict in /etc/kde4/kdm/kdmrc23:14
* Zorael loves then new krunner23:15
drbobboh, and does that depend on the icon theme?23:15
VirkZorael: I tried aptitude, but it said that there were more issues than it can handle23:15
mathieu___hi23:15
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ign0ramushaha! 2.6.30-rc6 came out today :)23:16
NamShubi have problems connecting to my wireless network: the network widget crashes plasma anyone aware of a workaround?23:16
serecan someone help...i made a script to encode a movie with mencoder w/ rox but i would like the output the be the sources name ....any ideas?23:16
ZoraelVirk: ouch. :323:17
ZoraelVirk: It can't fix the overwriting part, you have to do that yourself23:17
ign0ramusNamShub, install wicd?23:19
NamShubign0ramus: just upgraded to jaunty, it worked before but ill try this23:19
SteBoHey, what's up with the latetest announcement on kubuntu.org? Any news on the KDE 4.3 Beta 1 packages?23:20
ign0ramusNamShub, it's not exactly a 'fix', but people are constantly having problems with network manager and the widget... wicd seems to 'just work' for most23:20
SteBoThey do not seem to be in the given repository.23:20
UnksiSteBo: theres a repo mentioned at the website23:20
wizardslovakwill virtualdj run on wine?23:20
ZoraelSteBo: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa23:21
white_pelicanty desu crisis averted for now23:21
white_pelicanit's resumed23:21
Zoraelum, wrong one23:21
desu<323:21
sereanyone have any scripting knowledge23:21
desusere: i do23:21
SteBoUnksi: When I add it to my sources.list and do an sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade no updated packages are offered.23:21
ZoraelSteBo: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/experimental23:21
desusere: but please state your entire question, so that others may also be able to help you23:22
Unksiyeah that latter one is right23:22
seredesu i made a script to encode a movie with mencoder w/ rox but i would like the output the be the sources name ....any ideas?23:22
kaddievening :)23:22
wizardslovakdamn my audo doesnt work23:22
seredesu: im sure its not the hard just not sure how to :/23:22
wizardslovakwith amarok23:22
wizardslovakis there command to upgade driver?23:22
desu"output to be the sources name"... can you elaborate a bit?23:22
white_pelicanI spoke too soon, Desu23:23
seredesu: sure ill paste it23:23
white_pelicanthere are more errors than I can shake a stick at23:23
desuwhite_pelican: lol, lather, rinse and repeat23:23
ign0ramuswizardslovak, https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+question/6704523:23
Virkok guys, works like a charm here :)23:23
SteBoah, alright, they fixed the sources.list line.23:24
SteBoa few hours ago it was different. With the corrected line, I see the fresh packages. :-)23:24
* SteBo is happy.23:24
seredesu: http://paste.ubuntu.com/175232/ ...this encodes a video to movie.mpg i would like it to encode it to the sources file name23:24
seredesu: or possible enode to to movie1.mpg, movie2.mpg so i could enode multiple movies at once23:26
wizardslovakproblem is if i wantch movies audio works23:26
desusere: are you only going to pass input files as parameters?23:26
desuor are you going to pass some other params to mencoder?23:27
seredesu: sorry not sure what you mean...not good that this stuff :/23:27
desusere: are you going to pass special parameters to mencoder?23:28
seredesu: just whats in the script thats it23:29
desuhmm...23:30
desuthen you can easily do a for x in $@ or something23:30
Virkthat separate dashboard is awesome :)23:30
seredesu:  do u mean like -output "$@"23:31
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desusere: no, i mean, for x in $@; do foo -o $i.foo $i; done23:32
desuwhere "foo" is your command23:32
desuwithout the -o /media/d/movie.mpg "$@"23:32
serehmm23:32
bruce_hell is anyoneout there. I've never used one of these things before23:33
seredesu, like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/175240/23:34
desubruce_: no... we're all in heaven :P23:34
desusere: uh... no.23:34
bruce_does anyone know why kate keeps crashing?23:34
seredesu: :/ sorry not quite sure how to put it all together23:35
desusere: http://paste.ubuntu.com/175243/23:36
desusere: output will be saved to <inputfile>.done23:36
seredesu. thank you very much....is this called scripting .. i would like to learn more23:37
white_pelicanthanks to my impatience, looks like I broke kde 4 on my machine23:37
white_pelicanoh well live and learn23:37
desusere: you might wanna try #bash :)23:38
desuwhite_pelican: O_o23:38
desubroke?23:38
desuwhat exactly do you mean?23:38
white_pelicanthere are errors out the wazoo23:38
bruce_white pelican I broke ubuntu studio so bad I had to reinstall it.23:38
seredesu: cool ill do some studying later..thanks again23:38
wizardslovakok now my audio doesnt work at alll23:39
desuwhite_pelican: what errors are you getting, exactly?23:40
desuwhite_pelican: still conflicts?23:40
white_pelicanyes23:41
white_pelicanconflicts on top of conflicts23:41
seredesu: ./new: line 9: syntax error: unexpected end of file...im afraid it didnt work :/23:41
white_pelicanperhaps I was too impatient or it should have been fully tested before being placed on the web site as available23:41
desusere: add a "done" at the end23:42
desuwhite_pelican: both :P23:42
desuwhite_pelican: lather, rinse, repeat23:42
desuwhite_pelican: dpkg -i --force-overwrite <package>23:42
desuwhite_pelican: that's how i got mine working :P23:43
white_pelicanhow long did it take you?23:43
seredesu : -o "$x".done $x done...still gives me same error23:43
desu....23:43
desusere: ;done23:44
desuwhite_pelican: ~5-10 minutes23:44
desusere:  -o "$x".done $x; done23:44
white_pelicanok I will keep trying23:44
seredesu: i love u23:44
seredesu: ty :)23:45
desusere: you're welcome :)23:45
desuwhite_pelican: good luck~~!23:45
white_pelicanI might just have to reinstall everything23:46
white_pelicanunless there is an easy way to uninstall kde 423:47
Zoraelwhite_pelican: I could give it a try over a vnc session, if we could somehow set one up23:51
bruce_white pelican do you know how to install kde from the command line?23:52
white_pelicanno bruce_ I don't23:52
desuwhite_pelican: D:23:53
[mors]hello, I upgraded to kernel 2.6.28 and now kde is always using the xtreme pwersave profile, because I have my laptop baterry off, but also my ac power cable. Strangelly, the battery tray icon is telling my that my ac power cable is plugged off, hence xtreme powersave.23:53
desuwhite_pelican: paste errors on rafb.net/paste, please?23:53
white_pelicanok let me compile a list23:54
bruce_ok, you could try using kpackagekit to uninstall and reinstall kubuntu-desktop. that might help. I have kubuntu and I installed Gnome into it. I didn't install ubuntu into kubuntu I installed Gnome into kubuntu.23:54
silentstri16is it possible to take a databse backup file from windows MySql and put it on the kubuntu MySql?23:54
bruce_Try using kpackagekit to uninstall kubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-default-settings and then reinstall them without rebooting your computer.23:57
white_pelicandesu, it's OK now23:59
white_pelicanI followed your instructions23:59
white_pelicanwhat a PITA23:59
desulol23:59
desubut 4.3 is <323:59

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