[00:00] <ign0ramus> joshjtl, you can install amarok 1.4 on jaunty if you'd like
[00:00] <ign0ramus> joshjtl, imho, amarok 2 just isn't ready
[00:00] <joshjtl> ign0ramus: I feel the same way
[00:00] <joshjtl> feels like its taking a while to get ready too
[00:00] <ign0ramus> joshjtl, you have to add a PPA- it's not in the regular repos
[00:00] <Ariathaxx> I need an OS that lasts a little longer hehe
[00:01] <Jado> hi, i've just installed kubuntu 9.04 on a new laptop but i can't start a graphic session i got : "kstartupconfig4 does not exist or fails. The error code is 3. Check your installation"
[00:02] <Jado> the problem seems to come from from the fact that my home is encrypted
[00:03] <marcox25> are there any news about kde 4.3 beta 1 for kubuntu 9.04?
[00:04] <Mindblade16> hello everyone
[00:04] <yoshiy> hi
[00:04] <ign0ramus> Jado, do you have "kdebase-workspace" installed?
[00:05] <ign0ramus> marcox25, you just asked about this ... please read the topics, check kde.org, and the kubuntu web site
[00:05] <Jado> it seems not ign0ramus
[00:05] <ign0ramus> Jado, most likely your issue :)
[00:05] <Jado> ok thanks
[00:05] <ign0ramus> np
[00:06] <Jado> i'll have to leave internet from this computer to connect to the computer which has the issue ; i'll come again later and tell you if that's fixed
[00:06] <ign0ramus> Jado, k np
[00:06] <Mindblade16> I was curious about something. KDevelop C/C++ Hello World doesn't seem to work
[00:07] <carpii> huh?
[00:07] <Mindblade16> I want to write in C, but the compiler doesnt work right
[00:07] <carpii> 'doesnt work right'?
[00:09] <Mindblade16> For Example: I set the complier to create a new program called "Hello World". It didnt work even though it was an automatic program
[00:10] <Mindblade16> I know I'm doing something wrong. It can't be the compiler
[00:10]  * carpii shrugs. you need to learn how to ask a proper question
[00:10] <Mindblade16> ok then
[00:12] <Allydede> its a other alternativ app as the kooldock for amd64
[00:14] <Mindblade16> the KDevelop C/C++ compiler gives me this message when I compile the "Simple Hello World" program: *** Exited with status: 2 ***
[00:17] <carpii> mindblade, compile it from commandline before you try using gui tools
[00:18] <Mindblade16> ok. thanks
[00:22] <jado> ign0ramus: hi it's Jado ; i've tried and intalled kdebase-workspace but i still have the same error. What i don't understand is that the file is in /usr/bin and this path is in the variable $PATH so it should find it.
[00:22] <ign0ramus> jado, that's correct.  i wonder if your permissions are borked...?
[00:22] <jado> i've tried 777 but that won't do a thing
[00:23] <jado> how can i disable the encryption of the home ?
[00:24] <jado> if i try ecryptfs-mount-private i got "Encrypted Private is not setup properly" What should i do ?
[00:24] <ign0ramus> jado, i don't know much about encryption
[00:24] <ign0ramus> jado, try to sort that out, and also see here : http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3101650.0
[00:25] <jado> thanks
[00:26] <ign0ramus> jado, np
[00:27] <estevanatto> stevanatto
[00:30] <jado> is it safe to write sudo apt-get remove --purge kde && sudo apt-get install kde ?
[00:31] <marcox25> why resizing widgets it's not done ina smoooth way,, ? it's a video card driver problem? or is Qt/kde problem?
[00:32] <ign0ramus> jado, i would say "yes", but i'm not 100% sure
[00:32] <jado> let's go :)
[00:33] <ign0ramus> jado, as long as it doesn't affect your networking, you should be able to install any packages
[00:33] <ign0ramus> jado, i like that attitude!
[00:33] <jado> kde is not installed, so not removed :(
[00:34] <jado> if kde is not installed then how the hell is "he" trying to open a graphic session ??
[00:34] <yoshiy> maybe "kdebase" ? :/
[00:34] <jado> kdebase is not installed, so not removed :(
[00:35] <mahmood> Hello
[00:35] <mahmood> i am looking for yahoo messenger on Kubuntu 9.04
[00:35] <marcox25> why resizing widgets it's not done ina smoooth way,, ? it's a video card driver problem? or is Qt/kde problem?
[00:35] <jado> so what's with the login window that i have on the xserver ? what should i do ? sudo apt-get intall kde ??
[00:36] <jado> well i don't have anything to lose ..
[00:36] <Mindblade16> Ok, I was wondering what program I should use to program C in command line. I'm using Ubuntu.
[00:37] <jado> Mindblade16: you can try 'emacs -nw'
[00:37] <Allydede> have anyone a link to a ksmoothdock for amd64?
[00:39] <jado> damn it ; i've tried sudo apt-get install kde but i still have the same problem
[00:40] <marcox25> why resizing widgets it's not done ina smoooth way,, ? it's a video card driver problem? or is Qt/kde problem?
[00:43] <marcox25> what things?salgo en 5 min
[00:45] <jado> i'll just try with gnome
[00:45] <marcox25> gnoem sucks
[00:45] <jado> ok but kde is not working :(
[00:45] <ign0ramus> jado, do you have "kdm" installed?
[00:46] <jado> i think so ; if kdm was not installed i shouldn't see a login screen
[00:46] <Mindblade16> thank you jado, I'll look that up
[00:47] <jado> Mindblade16: but why do you want to program with command line and not in a graphical window ?
[00:49] <Mindblade16> I do want to use a GUI. I'm going to be taking a college class in C. I have KDevelop as a compiler, but for some reason I can't get it to compile the simplest program
[00:49] <jado> try to compile with 'gcc' ?
[00:50] <Mindblade16> is gcc available through Ubuntu?
[00:50] <jado> if you open a terminal you should be able to use it ; if you can't just intall it with 'sudo apt-get install gcc', i gues
[00:51] <Mindblade16> I'll look it up. thanks
[00:52] <jado> np
[00:55] <Mindblade16> Ah! I found the terminal! I'mma bit new to ubuntu, so excuse me
[00:57] <jado> what were you using before ?
[00:57] <Mindblade16> windows vista
[00:57] <jado> ok
[00:58] <Mindblade16> culture shock, lol
[00:58] <jado> :D can you compile a simple .c file ?
[00:59] <Mindblade16> not from command line. I guess I should learn that first. I've only ever used GUIs for programming. except for QBASIC
[01:00] <jado> you just write your .c file somewhere with some text editor
[01:00] <jado> then you go with the terminal in the folder of the .c file (with the command cd (change directory))
[01:01] <jado> then you write gcc yourfile.c -o outputname
[01:01] <Mindblade16> I have the terminal open, so I'll try that
[01:02] <Mindblade16> it says no input files
[01:03] <jado> that means you're not in the right directory
[01:03] <jado> or that the name of the file you entered is wrong
[01:03] <jado> type 'ls' to make sure that your .c file is there
[01:05] <Mindblade16> I think I'm getting the hang of it now
[01:05] <fung> how can I set my default file manager, for programs like firefox, to be dolphin? it seems like nautilus keeps popping up?
[01:05] <Mindblade16> thanks
[01:06] <jado> np
[01:07] <jado> gtg bye
[02:31] <claudio-tux> hi
[02:56] <Guest36596> what is this?
[02:57] <Dragnslcr> This is the IRC support channel for Kubuntu
[03:10] <martin_> anyone familiar with installing phpmyadmin
[03:11] <Nikke> martin_: i did it last night
[03:11] <Nikke> on my ubuntu server
[03:12] <martin_> i did the sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin, it seemed to install fine, but localhost/phpmyadmin doesn't display anything
[03:12] <martin_> i copied the /var/www files to localhost/public_html pulled up the index.php but there are all kinds of errors
[03:12] <Nikke> try http://localhost/phpMyAdmin
[03:12] <martin_> yeah, doesn't work
[03:13] <Nikke> martin_: hmm you shouldn move phpmyadmin dir
[03:13] <martin_> yeah, just a desperate attempt to get it working
[03:13] <martin_> where did it create files on your system?
[03:13] <Nikke> hehe
[03:13] <Nikke> hmm hold on one sec
[03:14] <Nikke> hmm not in /var/www
[03:14] <Nikke> dont know
[03:14] <Nikke> it just worked :)
[03:14] <Nikke> i just know that you shouldnt move the phpmyadmin/ dir
[03:15] <martin_> hehe, seems most people don't have a problem with it, can't say i expected to either, not with this, figured apache installation would go horribly wrong
[03:16] <Nikke> where is your dir now?
[03:16] <martin_> ummm, /var/www   /home/martin/public_html   and /usr/share/phpmyadmin
[03:16] <martin_> i know, don't laugh
[03:17] <Nikke> :O
[03:17] <Nikke> did you move it to /var/www ?
[03:17] <martin_> yeah
[03:17] <martin_> it was in /usr/share/phpmyadmin
[03:18] <martin_> but didn't do anything
[03:18] <martin_> do i need to edit apache2.conf to tell it to look in /usr/share????
[03:18] <Nikke> hmm
[03:19] <martin_> i saw somewhere you might have to add an "include" in apache2.conf
[03:19] <Nikke> you know what.. im sorry but i think you might get lucky in #ubuntu
[03:19] <Nikke> ahhh
[03:19] <Nikke> wait
[03:19] <Nikke> i can check
[03:19] <Nikke> delete /var/www/phpmyadmin and /home/*/public_html/phpmyadmin
[03:19] <martin_> k
[03:19] <Nikke> and i check my apache2.conf
[03:19] <Dragnslcr> Check /etc/apache2/sites-enabled to see what directoy there are virtual hosts for
[03:20] <martin_> k
[03:20] <martin_> what exactly do i look for as far as virtual hosts
[03:20] <Dragnslcr> If you haven't changed anything, I think the only file should be 000-default
[03:20] <Nikke> do you have /etc/apache2/conf.d/phpmyadmin.conf
[03:20] <Dragnslcr> And it should have /var/www as the DocumentRoot
[03:21] <Nikke> i got that
[03:21] <martin_> no
[03:21] <Nikke> i can paste it for you
[03:21] <Nikke> martin_: http://www.pastie.org/481173
[03:21] <martin_> Dragnslcr all i have is 000-default
[03:22] <Nikke> thats my /etc/apache2/conf.d/phpmyadmin.conf
[03:22] <Dragnslcr> martin_- what's the DocumentRoot line in that file?
[03:22] <martin_> var/www
[03:23] <martin_> does that mean that if my phpmyadmin is in /var/www then it should work
[03:23] <Nikke> var/www or /var/www
[03:23] <Dragnslcr> martin_- yup
[03:23] <Nikke> martin_: its symlinked
[03:23] <martin_> --- /var/www
[03:23] <Nikke> Dragnslcr: the phpmyadmin dir is symlinked from /usr/share/phpmyadmin
[03:23] <Nikke> on my install
[03:23] <Nikke> and i did it last night
[03:23] <Dragnslcr> That would work too
[03:23] <martin_> I keep hearing that, what does that mean?
[03:24] <Nikke> symlinked?
[03:24] <Dragnslcr> martin_- what files/directories are in /var/www ?
[03:24] <martin_> yeah
[03:24] <martin_> a phpmyadmin directory and apache's index.html
[03:24] <martin_> u cp'd the phpmyadmin dir there though
[03:24] <Nikke> martin_: symlinked is when you.. hmmf, dont know how to explain but, creates a link from /usr/share/phpmyadmin to /var/www/phpmyadmin
[03:25] <martin_> sorry, new to linxu
[03:25] <martin_> linux
[03:25] <Dragnslcr> martin_- what do you get when you go to http://localhost/phpmyadmin ?
[03:25] <martin_> it pulls it up now that i copied the files however it doesn't work correctly, i have php errors and cookie erros, figured i broke it when i copied the directory to /var/www
[03:26] <Dragnslcr> You'll have to ask phpMyAdmin support about errors in their program
[03:27] <martin_> you can try it if ya want 99.52.160.147/phpmyadmin havn't changed the pwd
[03:28] <martin_> hehe, i just restarted apache and it now it works
[03:29] <martin_> wtf
[03:30] <martin_> what does apache have to do with mysql?
[03:30] <Dragnslcr> Nothing directly, why?
[03:31] <remu> hey folks, I just installed KDE from the minimal iso, and i installed the dragon player
[03:31] <remu> however, when i try to play a video, nothing seems to happen, dragon opens up, and the slider keeps moving as if it is playing a video, but the screen in dragon is black, and there is no audio.
[03:41] <Nikke> hmm
[03:41] <Nikke> why do i have 3 blocked updates?
[03:44] <Nikke> The following packages have been kept back: amarok amarok-common libgphoto2-port0
[03:44] <Nikke> i got amarok installed
[03:44] <Nikke> but i cant play mp3 files
[03:46] <Guest43573> Nikke: Did you download all the dependencies required by Amarok?
[03:46] <Nikke> jediatnight: i installed kubuntu
[03:46] <Nikke> when i start amarok it says i got some updates
[03:46] <jediatnight> Nikke: It could be that you have to install non-free codecs
[03:46] <Nikke> but i cant install theese three
[03:47] <jediatnight> Nikke: which version do you have now?
[03:47] <Nikke> 2.0.2
[03:47] <jediatnight> I was talking about Kubuntu
[03:48] <Nikke> ah
[03:48] <Nikke> 9.04
[03:48] <Nikke> 4.2.2
[03:48] <Nikke> kde
[03:48] <remu> does anyone know how i can get dragon player to play my videos? right now when i try to open a file it doesnt show anything and i cant hear anything, but the slider is moving.
[03:48] <jediatnight> I'm running  9.04 on kde  I can play mp3 with Amarok
[03:48] <Nikke> blah
[03:48] <jediatnight> Nikke: I don't know the reasons for your problems
[03:49] <Nikke> why cant i update then?
[03:49] <jediatnight> Ah, now I remember...I had to install codecs for Amarok.. It prompted me to install codecs for playing music
[03:49] <jediatnight> Nikke: Amarok should ask you to install codecs.. Did you install them? It would prompt you the first time.. you install codecs..
[03:49] <Nikke> jediatnight: didnt get any message
[03:50] <jediatnight> Nikke: I got a prompt from Kubuntu
[03:50] <jediatnight> *from Amarok
[03:50] <Nikke> yes when i start amarok it says amarok updates available
[03:51] <Nikke> but when i click on that notify it says there are three blocked updates
[03:54] <jediatnight> Nikke: Can you unblock them?
[03:56] <Nikke> jediatnight: dont think that
[04:01] <jkonatkanx> hola
[04:10] <dan> will gotomypc work on ubuntu
[04:10] <Nikke> GAH!
[04:10] <jkonatkanx> holas
[04:10] <Nikke> when i start amarok now it told me something that i couldn play with my sb live 5.1
[04:11] <Nikke> i just reinstalled amarok
[04:11] <dan> I tried using it in Firefox and it says it's looking for java.
[04:12] <ralmar> Hey guys, theres an app (Wondershaper, to throttle bandwidth) which I have to run with sudo. Is there anyway  I can have limited users run it or any other thing that requires sudo? Thanks
[04:13] <Nikke> ralmar: yes
[04:13] <Nikke> /etc/sudoers controlls wich users that has access to the sudo command
[04:13] <dan> IS grant Bowman in here?
[04:15] <jkonatkanx> alguien que le jale al español
[04:15] <jkonatkanx> spanish
[04:15] <dan> Having trouble using GotoMyPc.com from firefox in Ubuntu...can anyone help?
[04:20] <davidjheinrich_> hi all...does anyone know how to use the "replace" command to get rid of extra spaces in filenames? (i.e., I want to replace two spaces, "  ", with one space, " ")
[04:24] <Nikke> i get this message wheni start amarok:
[04:25] <Nikke> The audio playback device SBLive 5.1 [SB0060] (rev.7, serial:0x80611102) (ADC Capture/Standard PCM Playback) does not work. Falling back to PulseAudio.
[04:28] <FoxBlitzz> dan: Have you installed the jre?
[04:29] <FoxBlitzz> Also, if you need remote desktop, VNC will work fine unless you demand high performance
[04:38] <dan> Fox: Installing JRE now..
[04:45] <dan> FOX:JRE is installed but I'm still getting "You need a Java-enabled browser to use the GoToMyPC Universal Viewer. To learn how to enable Java in your browser, see https://www.gotomypc.com/help/#the_gotomypc_viewer/universal_viewer.htm.
[05:01] <Xcell> my updater says 4 blocked packages..which are kernel updates.. how do i clear it to allow it to update properly
[05:17] <Nikke> can i disable that if i am at workspace 2, and opens a link that firefox wont come to workspace 2 if i have placed it on workspace 3
[05:19] <davidjheinrich_> hi all, quick Q: is there any reason I should use underscores ("_") in filenames instead of spaces (" ")? also, how can I get auto-completion in bash when I start with a quote?
[05:23] <sgrover> davidjheinrich_: spaces are a pain in the butt.  I avoid them whenever possible - makes life easy when it comes to file management...
[05:24] <sgrover> Traditionally, Unix didn't do spaces, but Windows did.  Linux followed the Unix approach.
[05:24] <sgrover> Spaces *are* do-able now-a-days, but throw a space into the file name of a web page - it'll fail miserably...
[05:25] <sgrover> hmm.. think I'll go test that just to be sure.. :)
[05:25] <davidjheinrich_> don't websites use &s or %s or something like that for spaces
[05:25] <davidjheinrich_> if u put up a file with spaces in it, the website link shows %s for the space, and it d/l's with a space...IIRC
[05:26] <sgrover> in URL parameters, sure... but in file names, I've never seen it.
[05:26] <davidjheinrich_> could u explain what u mean by "pain in the butt" for file management?
[05:27] <wys> hi everyone
[05:27] <sgrover> k.  When you are working at the command line.  You want to delete a file called "my utterly useless file".  Problem is, that's not how the filename appears at the command line - it would need to be revised to "my\ utterly\ useless\ file".
[05:27] <sgrover> so those extra slashes slow you down.
[05:27] <sgrover> get into this enough and it is a big annoyance.
[05:28] <sgrover> (I'm ignoring tab-completion for the moment though...)
[05:28] <davidjheinrich_> yea, I use tab-completion
[05:28] <davidjheinrich_> and it just puts a \ before every space to treat it as special character
[05:28] <t0aster> just setup a geexbox and got it serving media to my 56" flawlessly
[05:29] <t0aster> using mediatomb upnp
[05:29] <davidjheinrich_> but, I USED to be able to use tab-completion by putting quotes at the front "file..." then press TAB and it completes...that hasn't worked with me in Ubuntu
[05:29] <davidjheinrich_> I remember the quote filename completionf rom years ago, don't know what distro or setup
[05:29] <sgrover> yep.  but what about when you need to do something where tab-completion doesn't work?  Like maybe importing a file from within MySQL when the mysql client doesn't have tabcompletion enabled?
[05:30] <sgrover> I think you would need to escape the quote.  Something like   \"file\ name\"
[05:30] <davidjheinrich_> nope, that doesn't work
[05:33] <sgrover> davidjheinrich_: this is why I avoid using odd characters in my file names.  Quotes are almost always going to be problematic.  Spaces eventually are.  I even avoid all the shift characters above the number keys - even though most are valid.
[05:36] <davidjheinrich_> tab-completion works fine for me...I was just wondering why I can't start with a quote to avoid all those ugly \
[05:37] <davidjheinrich_> and imo, underscores look ugly when navigating files and trying to read things...esp when I've transferred flac files to my Cowon D2 and am navigating by folder
[05:38] <davidjheinrich_> (the other thing is, for me, it's easier to type a space than an underscore, so the file-creation process is easier with spaces)
[05:39] <davidjheinrich_> i guess everything's a tradeoff
[05:41] <Nikke> can i disable that workspaces steel windows from other workspaces? if i opens a link in workspace 1 i want firefox to stay in workspace 2
[05:44] <t0aster> anyone know an application like putty for 9.4?
[05:45] <t0aster> i need a serial concole
[05:53] <sgrover> davidjheinrich_: I personally use only one or two words, if I need more I use camelCase.  If I need a date or something, then I separate it with an underscore or dash.  i.e. myBackup-09
[05:54] <Dumie> Hello
[05:54] <sgrover> t0aster: xterm?  Or do you mean you need to connect to a serial device?
[05:54] <sgrover> In that case, miniterm (I think that's right...)
[05:54] <t0aster> I found something
[05:55] <Dumie> IS there anyone who can help me with some confuiguration to GRUB ??
[05:55] <davidjheinrich_> what is camelCase?
[05:55] <t0aster> kgrub editor
[05:56] <Dumie> yeap
[05:56] <Dumie> well thats how it is:
[05:56] <Dumie> i had an old drive with XP
[05:56] <sgrover> davidjheinrich_: join your words together without spaces.  Capitalize the first character of every word after the first.  i.e.  thisIsCamelCase
[05:56] <Dumie> and i connected to another sata slot
[05:57] <Dumie> but i want to add it to the boot menu so that sometimes i may log to windows..
[05:57] <Dumie> am i clear?
[05:57] <Dumie> its in the /dev/sdb and dont know what root to give
[05:58] <Dumie> and what chainloader
[05:58] <Dumie> it wants the hd(1,0) for example..
[05:58] <davidjheinrich_> (wow, I just ripped "the 9 symphonies" to flac files from 5 CDs...almost as fast as d/l-ing them :-) )
[05:59] <Dumie> Is it possible to get help from here?
[06:06] <Nikke> Dumie: of course
[06:18] <cajr> hello everyone,
[06:37] <galvanize> is there a chess game that works well in kubuntu?
[06:41] <bazhang> galvanize, there are a large number of chess games; you can search in the konsole or the package manager for them
[06:41] <bazhang> galvanize, apt-cache search chess  <---will bring up a list
[06:42] <galvanize> bazhang: I have and have only come up with a few.
[06:44] <bazhang> !find chess
[06:44] <bazhang> galvanize ^^
[06:45] <bazhang> oops
[06:51] <yaa_> help me anybody
[06:51] <bazhang> yaa_, with what
[06:51] <yaa_> telnet 85.175.110.85 22
[06:51] <yaa_> what would it say&
[06:51] <yaa_> ?
[06:52] <yaa_> trying port forwarding
[06:52] <yaa_> does it work&
[06:52] <yaa_> ?
[06:52] <bazhang> yaa_, why telnet? its not safe; consider ssh instead
[06:52] <bazhang> !ssh | yaa_
[06:52] <yaa_> i know
[06:52] <yaa_> just to try
[06:54] <yaa_> ssh 85.175.110.85
[06:54] <bazhang> yaa_, not a good idea to ask strangers to access your machine
[06:55] <yaa_> it s ok. the one is testing machine
[07:06] <dpreacher> hello
[07:06] <eagles0513875> !hi | darkham
[07:06] <eagles0513875> miss type
[07:07] <eagles0513875> !hi | dpreacher
[07:07] <dpreacher> finally am onto kubuntu 9.04 and with it comes a simple problem. which was easily solved in last version by not this one.
[07:08] <dpreacher> this is about amarok 2 not playing my mp3's and not popping up the "install MP3 support" and also the package lists showing some mp3 related library called libmad installed.
[07:09] <dpreacher> amarok 2 play/pause/stop/track change buttons are ugh!ly
[07:09] <eagles0513875> dpreacher: if you install kubuntu-restricted extras as well as lame you should be able to play fine
[07:09] <eagles0513875> dpreacher: regarding the play pause etc that has to be taken to the amarok channel
[07:09] <dpreacher> disregard that amarok thing
[07:09] <dpreacher> they just made a cool startup splash
[07:10] <dpreacher> i've been making a big mistake thruout upgrading the machine thru kubuntu versions
[07:10] <dpreacher> not having my apt-cache backed up and having to download huge games again n again
[07:10] <dpreacher> someone suggested aptoncd
[07:10] <dpreacher> my query...
[07:11] <dpreacher> is will the packages be compatible in further distro versions?
[07:11] <eagles0513875> dunno dpreacher
[07:11] <eagles0513875> never tried that
[07:12] <dpreacher> its really a terrible experience to get open arena, warsow, sauerbraten, etc. sort of games every time a new kubuntu comes out...takes a lot of time and the repos in my country are slooww
[07:14] <dpreacher> one thing that was markedly different was...eh...where's my adept? :)
[07:14] <bazhang> !info adept
[07:14] <dpreacher> adept was there in previous versions
[07:15] <bazhang> now is optional install
[07:15] <dpreacher> yep...maybe good maybe not..
[07:15] <dpreacher> which led to me discovering kpackagekit for the first time
[07:15] <dpreacher> dunno if this was there before but here's an important thing
[07:16] <dpreacher> if kpackagekit was there before, i wonder why wasn't it featured in bold, put on desktop or have outstanding notifications?
[07:16] <dpreacher> coz for first time on my kubuntu machine, i have a quick way of the system telling me what updates i need immediately
[07:17] <dpreacher> although i checked it manually, but am so happy to see its there
[07:18] <shock_day13> hey everyone
[07:19] <dpreacher> hey shock_day13
[07:19] <shock_day13> hey dpreacher wasup
[07:21] <dpreacher> just demoed a upgrade/install of kubuntu to a small gang of friends at a small cafe, managing to not mess with my system and kubuntu 9.04 installing smoothly.
[07:21] <dpreacher> did that on saturday, evening, rushing out right after my exam
[07:21] <shock_day13> cool
[07:22] <dpreacher> i swore i want to not practice this demo at all, coz i want to face the worst of linux nightmares and that ppl gotta be like "i KNEW it!! hah!"....but nothing like that happened
[07:22] <dpreacher> s/want/wanted
[07:22] <shock_day13> lol
[07:23] <shock_day13> thats quite adventurous
[07:23] <eagles0513875> !ot
[07:23] <dpreacher> !ok
[07:24] <eagles0513875> lol
[07:24] <dpreacher> :P
[07:24] <eagles0513875> brb again testing someting out on karmic
[07:25] <dpreacher> why don't they give firefox still? isn't there a qt version yet?
[07:26] <faileas> dpreacher: you can always install it yerself
[07:26] <kalorin_> I don't think there is a k version of firefox
[07:26] <faileas> and it blends pretty well
[07:26] <kalorin_> but it's pretty friendly under kde
[07:26] <eagles0513875> ya it is
[07:27] <kalorin_> why at 2:30am am I sitting here reading irc logs :(
[07:27] <kalorin_> sick
[07:27] <dpreacher> kalorin_ get sleep
[07:27] <kalorin_> can't
[07:27] <kalorin_> layed there for about 3 hours
[07:27] <kalorin_> going to veg in front of the tv I guess
[07:27] <dpreacher> maybe you should sit n sleep
[07:27] <dpreacher> tv's bad for eyes before sleep
[07:28] <kalorin_> hopefully they wouldn't be looking at it long :)
[07:28] <dpreacher> :)
[07:28] <dpreacher> gettin offtopic
[07:28] <dpreacher> that bot will come again
[07:29] <kalorin_> silly bot
[07:29] <kalorin_> trix are for kids
[07:29] <kalorin_> :)
[07:29] <noaXess> if i want configure my network over /etc/network/interfaces.. do i remove the package network-manager?
[07:29] <dpreacher> its not about the friendly part...its the wait for internet to install it each time part...unless of course i build my aptoncd...everytime i hate that konqueror doesn't even support ctrl-enter, shift-enter shortcuts.
[07:29] <noaXess> or network-manager-kde(gnome)?
[07:30] <dpreacher> network...aha...
[07:30] <dpreacher> erm...why is there a /etc/resolvconf and not /etc/resolv.conf?
[07:51] <noaXess> if i want configure my network over /etc/network/interfaces.. do i remove the package network-manager?
[07:52] <eagles0513875> noaXess: no need you can just use /etc/network/interfaces and resolv.conf
[07:53] <noaXess> eagles0513875: ok thanks
[07:53] <eagles0513875> had to do that with jaunty cuz network manager doesnt work outa the box but for some reason couldnt use dhcp
[07:53] <eagles0513875> not sure if it is an issue with the chipset i could be on
[07:57] <eagles0513875> noaXess: let me know if you have any issues
[07:57] <noaXess> eagles0513875: it works..
[07:57] <eagles0513875> :)
[07:57] <eagles0513875> outa curiosity how many name server ips do you have in the resolv.conf
[07:58] <dpreacher> kubuntu 9.04 doesn't have a resolv.conf entry with commented out sample entries, what gui tool is to be used to generate that file...i created one manually but i wonder what the resolvconf file is about?
[08:00] <loading> oi
[08:01] <loading> alguem qki pode me ajudar ?
[08:02] <eagles0513875> !es | loading
[08:02] <eagles0513875> dpreacher: you have to make one from scratch
[08:02] <eagles0513875> dpreacher: resolv.conf is the file to give it a single ip of a dns server
[08:02] <loading> ok
[08:03] <loading> entendi =]
[08:04] <dpreacher> eagles0513875 yeah did that...but without the example i forgot whether i'd to put the word nameserver or nameservers and without the dns...i can't google for an answer either
[08:04] <eagles0513875> nameserver
[08:04] <eagles0513875> then the ip
[08:04] <dpreacher> yes...learnt by trial n error
[08:05] <eagles0513875> had to do this last night on jaunty so its fresh in me head
[08:05] <dpreacher> mine too
[08:05] <eagles0513875> once you do that restart your network
[08:05] <loading> I not speck inglis
[08:05] <dpreacher> :)
[08:05] <dpreacher> i liek det
[08:05] <eagles0513875> loading:  type /join #kubuntu-es
[08:05] <eagles0513875> karmic looks like a newere spanshot of the widget seems to work im using that for me static ip
[08:06] <Greenery> will 4.2.3 be on the official kubuntu repo soon or do I have to get it from the PPA?
[08:06] <dpreacher> i wasn't makin permanent network changes...so i hadn't changed anything in interfaces file
[08:06] <dpreacher> !info ppa
[08:06] <dpreacher> oh damn
[08:08] <eagles0513875> language dpreacher
[08:08] <eagles0513875> bot only gives info on packages on personal package archive
[08:08] <eagles0513875> Greenery: i am not sure to be honest with you if it will be or not
[08:09] <dpreacher> damn is bad?
[08:09] <dpreacher> ok
[08:09] <noaXess> any other problem.. i have two hd's /dev/sda and /dev/sdc.... sda1 is the main hd and sdc is the backup if sda.. i run just a dd to clone sda to sdc..
[08:09] <Nicekiwi9> hey i need help getting an Nvidia driver installed on a fresh install of Kubuntu 9.04
[08:10] <noaXess> now, sometimes i reboot the system it seams that i boot's fomr sdc.. not from sda.. in grub is the uuid fomr sda included.. but sometimes it bootes really from sdc.
[08:10] <noaXess> how can i forec booting automaticaly from sda?
[08:10] <Greenery> Nicekiwi9: go to system> application> hardware drivers and check the box for the nvidia driver you want
[08:11] <eagles0513875> Greenery: touche read my mind lol
[08:11] <Nicekiwi9> tried that, it fails to find any driver for me
[08:11] <Greenery> what is your nvidia card?
[08:11] <eagles0513875> noaXess: check out grub there might be something in there
[08:12] <noaXess> eagles0513875: in menu.lst?
[08:12] <Nicekiwi9> GeForce™ 8400M GS
[08:12] <Nicekiwi9> Nvidia
[08:13] <eagles0513875> ya might have a hint in there some wherre noaXess
[08:13] <noaXess> eagles0513875: defaul grub root device?
[08:14] <Greenery> kubuntu should be able to detect your nvidia card. were you connected to the internet while doing a hardware driver?
[08:14] <Nicekiwi9> ive tried installing the latest driver for linux from the Nvidia website, but even that failed to give me 3d effects
[08:14] <eagles0513875> noaXess: its possibly
[08:14] <Nicekiwi9> yes i was
[08:14] <Nicekiwi9> however the update manager also fails to show me any of the updates avalible for 9.04
[08:14] <Nicekiwi9> and yet is still able to download apps that i search for
[08:16] <Nicekiwi9> i added the repo for the latest KDE release and it reloads the cache form that and the normal repos but still shows nothing
[08:17] <wowicky> bye
[08:19] <loading> alguem me ajuda ?
[08:19] <Nicekiwi9> the only way ive managed to get the video drivers to work is install them in ubtunu in 8.10 and then upgrade to kubuntu 9.04
[08:19] <loading> to com problema na minha zotac XFX 5500 ge force
[08:20] <loading> kubuntu 8,10
[08:20] <jussi01> loading: type: /join #kubuntu-es
[08:20] <loading> ok
[08:22] <Nicekiwi9> ping...
[08:23] <eagles0513875> pong
[08:23] <eagles0513875> loading tu necescitas este canle #kubuntu-es este canale hablar solo en ingles por favor
[08:24] <ultratek> can i upgrade jaunty 32 bit to 64 bit? using live cd and not over write my current files?
[08:25] <tsimpson> ultratek: no, it needs to be a fresh install
[08:25] <ultratek> shucks
[08:25] <ultratek> ty simpson
[08:32] <Virk> hi everyone
[08:32] <Lam> under System Settings > Input Actions, can i use mouse inputs and assign them to keyboard key combinations?
[08:33] <Virk> for some reason or another, when I move something to the trash, it is horribly slow
[08:34] <Virk> but really really slow, even for 1kb files..
[08:43]  * Nicekiwi9 makes a mental not to kickshit out of his server b4 complaining on irc
[09:34] <ct529> hi everybody .... anyone who has successfully updated to 904 usingt the automatic updater?
[09:36] <tsimpson> yes
[09:36] <Greenery> seems like my kubuntu did not detect my DVD burner, but my DVD reader is detected. Any idea how to fix this?
[09:38] <ct529> tsimpson: did you? what type of difficulties did you have? I have to update a production machine, I am a bit unsure about it
[09:39] <eatThisAndDie> Greenery: is your burner and reader 2 different devices? IF so have you tried lspci?
[09:39] <tsimpson> ct529: I upgraded one machine from 8.04 and one from 8.10, I had no issues with either
[09:40] <ct529> tsimpson: fairly standard machines?
[09:40] <thanda> Do any of you have problems in getting vmware console in kubuntu-9,04?
[09:40] <tsimpson> ct529: one was a laptop, the other an older desktop
[09:40] <Greenery> yup they are two separate devices. What do I look at in lspci?
[09:41] <ct529> tsimpson: yes, I have to upgrade a laptop (Dell M6300)
[09:41] <ct529> tsimpson: what was your laptop?
[09:41] <thanda> I could not able to open the vmware console, in kubuntu-9.04 and with firefox browser?
[09:42] <tsimpson> ct529: toshiba satellite pro a100
[09:42] <ct529> tsimpson: I will give it a go .... do you use java applications?
[09:43] <tsimpson> ct529: only rarely, when I have to
[09:43] <ct529> tsimpson: upgrade on the way, talk to you later .... thanks a lot for your help!
[09:44] <Greenery> I checked my fstab, only one entry for cdrom
[09:56] <smeg0l> hi
[09:57] <eagles0513875> !hi | smeg0l
[09:57] <smeg0l> thx
[10:05] <eric_> hi
[10:05] <refic> hello
[10:10] <af__> hi
[10:19] <Peace-> ----_> tester for this ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDwX7RcMPAo
[10:50] <Dragonath> what's the keyboard shortcut for changing desktops in kde?
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[11:10] <Mist_> I find Kubuntu resolution settings.. confusing.. ^^
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> Mist_: how so/
[11:13] <Mist_> Problem: When I boot my Kubuntu 9.04 I get a res of 1600x1200 and my screen cant handle that so I only see part of login screen at 1280x1080. I see login box in right down corner. I log in, and then right click and choose log out and when logged out it switch to correct resolution and stay that way when logged in from that point. After reboot it is the same procedure again.
[11:14] <Mist_> resolution is set via ATI CC. Driver for ATI works ok with opengl and so on though :)
[11:15] <Mist_> Do I still need to define the screen and resolution in xorg.conf? I thought xrandr and so on was to handle that part but I guess it only is when logged in and xrandr kicks in and not before when kdm server is started?
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> Mist_: maybe you could put the res you prefer for the logon screen in xorg.conf (as you say)
[11:20] <Mist_> ActionParsnip: Yes, just like it was in xorg for 3.x and so on. I must say I find it a little odd the ubuntu developers let this slio into release because after install I had complete black and screen wasnt responding at all. Just because the xorg.conf didnt have a driver to lean back on. So I sent in driver  "vesa" in order to work from there.
[11:20] <Mist_> Or maybe the error is that I pumped it onto a machine with ATI gfx ^^
[11:21] <katoda> greetings everyone
[11:21] <Mist_> Hey katoda :)
[11:21] <katoda> when I run amarok, it takes the /dev/dsp channel
[11:21] <katoda> anybody confirm this?
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> Mist_: not sure dude, i avoid ati like paris hilton
[11:24] <katoda> Mist_: ATI drivers in 9.04 are broken
[11:24] <Mist_> ActionParsnip: I should as well from now on. ATI really dissapointed me past year.. a lot on windows systems as well. But huge on GNU/Linux systems. Going to be nvidia from now on. Sad..
[11:25] <katoda> Mist_: it can diametrally change, because ATI has freed it's code
[11:26] <Mist_> katoda: ATI's catalyst drivers work fine here though. But it was a bit of fiddle to say the least.
[11:26] <Mist_> If it would been nvidia card, things would just worked and that is the difference.
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> Mist_: i have always used nvidia without a hitch since Riva TNT2 Ultra 32Mb was the big boy in the park
[11:27] <Mist_> :)
[11:27] <katoda> :)
[11:27] <katoda> I prefer nVidia too
[11:28] <katoda> but, any1 can confirm that amarok takes the /dev/dsp channel while playing?
[11:28] <Mist_> I went ATI back at Radeon 9800 Pro. It was ok back then. But some time after that and AMD it just broke down.
[11:28] <Mist_> katoda: I started my amarok first time now.. he he.. did some recomended updates..
[11:29] <katoda> it is all about phonon configuration :/
[11:31] <Mist_> katoda: hmm.. where does one catch the amarok settings for sound device and so on?
[11:32] <katoda> Settings -> Configure -> Playback
[11:33] <katoda> Mist_: there is Sound system configuration button
[11:34] <drbobb> I downgraded my Xorg server to the hardy version (yes I had a good reason), now my keyboard is badly mangled in X. Any idea for a fix?
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> !downgrade > drbobb
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> drbobb: you could manually configure its settings in xorg.conf
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> drbobb: or check the keyboard confing in systemsettings
[11:35] <Mist_> katoda: hmm.. I was just looking into preferences in the menu.. I am not that huge user of amarok. This is on a Kubuntu 9.04 system btw :)
[11:35] <katoda> yes, of course ;)
[11:35] <drbobb> sure I know it's not supported. But jaunty is broken out of the box on my VGA, and I haven't been able to find any workaround other than downgrade
[11:35] <katoda> make amarok play anything and try to cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp
[11:35] <katoda> I have the resource busy :(
[11:36] <Mist_> katoda: trying to find that.. ah :) of course. I choose some streaming channel.. works.. hmm..
[11:36] <alex__> hi @ all, can anybody help me with a java-coding-problem (Data-transfer)
[11:36] <ubsafder> /join
[11:36] <ubsafder>   #openvibe
[11:36] <ubsafder> ✔
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> katoda: try  lsof | grep dsp
[11:37] <drbobb> ActionParsnip: i've done all that, and no luck. The mapping and all XKB stuff look ok, but the function keys (Del, Home, End etc) are emitting the wrong keycodes
[11:37] <katoda> tried alredy
[11:37] <katoda> but got empty list :(
[11:37] <Mist_> katoda: yepp.. resource is busy for me now on /dev/dsp
[11:37] <katoda> when I kill amarok, I can use /dev/dsp
[11:37] <katoda> maybe it is something wrong with phonon xine backend configuration?
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> drbobb: does: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg not fly?
[11:38] <drbobb> arrowup emits the keycode mapped to PrintScreen, for instance
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> katoda: then that logically seals it, it does use /dev/dsp for something
[11:38] <Mist_> katoda: that is one thing that annoyed me through the years with GNU/Linux, when sound resources are hogged almost everytime by something else even a system sound.
[11:38] <Mamarok_> ubsafder: do not spam the channel please
[11:38] <drbobb> ActionParsnip: of course not, was the first thing I tried
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> drbobb: i assume nothing
[11:39] <ubsafder> i am sorry i got the wrong tab to enter the join command
[11:39] <katoda> ActionParsnip: yes, but how can I change it *not* to use the /dev/dsp, but use the ALSA mixing?
[11:39] <drbobb> also tried dpkg-reconfigure console-setup, followed by a hal restart
[11:39] <drbobb> nothing seems to work
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> katoda: amarok settings and tell it to use a different thingy
[11:39] <katoda> ActionParsnip: not possible to do it in amarok2?
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> drbobb: could read xorg logs and dmesg
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> katoda: i dont use it, it doesnt do what i need and amarok1.4 does
[11:40] <drbobb> ActionParsnip: nothing unusual there. I believe the evdev driver is used for the keybd
[11:40] <Mamarok_> katoda: do you happen to use Pulseaudio?
[11:41] <katoda> Mamarok: no, i use Phonon
[11:41] <Mamarok_> katoda: I know, but does pulseaudio show up there?
[11:41] <katoda> Mamarok_: and I have my audio card preffered
[11:41] <katoda> Mamarok_: yes, it shows
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> drbobb: then i got not idea, could setup keyboard manually in xorg.conf and tell it the driver to use by force and the lanuage to use
[11:41] <Mamarok_> katoda: purge Pulseaudio, that is likely to solve your problems
[11:42] <fung> I can't boot into windows anymore after combining a few random partitions to organize my filesystem. it gave a "could not find ntoskrnl.exe" error. I thought I would fix it if I directed my XP entry in grub's menu.lst to sdc5 where my windows directory is but now I get a error 12: invalid device requested error. anyone know what I should do?
[11:42] <Mamarok_> katoda: even if not selected, it hugs the audio
[11:42] <drbobb> ActionParsnip: but it's not a lang problem, all alphanumeric keys work correctly
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> drbobb: ok thats something positive
[11:42] <drbobb> but most of the "motion" keys are mangled
[11:42] <katoda> Mamarok_: strange... PulseAudio shows in phonon, but I don't have pulseaudio installed
[11:43] <drbobb> so are Del, right Ctrl, right Alt etc
[11:43] <Mamarok_> katoda: you should then also remove the pulseaudio specific entries in .kde/share/config/phonondevicesrc (erasing that file does the trick usually)
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> drbobb: do they make the right noises in xev?
[11:44] <Mamarok_> katoda: and check your hidden files for sound related entries where pulseaudio still can linger
[11:44] <drbobb> ActionParsnip: no, the *keycodes* reported are wrong
[11:45] <katoda> Mamarok_: ok, brb, kde restart
[11:45] <drbobb> the mapping is correct afaics, as reported by xmodmap -pk
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> drbobb: hmmm
[11:45] <drbobb> of course in the text-mode console all keys work correctly
[11:46] <drbobb> ActionParsnip: yeah it's really weird, never seen such a thing before
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> drbobb: you could have a whale of a time remapping codes to stuff
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> drbobb: otherwise i don't have a scooby
[11:47] <drbobb> ActionParsnip: and it's gonna force me to reinstall hardy if I don't manahe to solve it
[11:47] <drbobb> manage
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> sounds likely unfortunatle :(
[11:48] <drbobb> ActionParsnip: well it's about 10 keys to remap, not all that much. Often used ones though
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> yeah if they were minimally used I guesses you can bumble along
[11:50] <drbobb> but there must be a better solution, except it's really hard to find any info at all about Xorg's keyboard handling
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> drbobb: oh tell me about it, try man xorg
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> drbobb: i'll check back with you in a week to see if you need a straightjacket and to wipe the foam off your mouth
[11:52] <drbobb> ActionParsnip: heh verry funny
[11:52] <Matisse_> hi
[11:52] <Matisse_> what is the firefox-3.1 package?
[11:52] <katoda> welcome back
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> !info firefox-3.1
[11:53] <katoda> Mamarok_: unfortunately after removing this file and kde restart, I still have PulseAudio to choose in phonon config
[11:53] <katoda> but I still don't have phonon installed :/
[11:53] <drbobb> ActionParsnip: actually I'm not so sure whether key remapping the old-school way, with xmodmap, even works any longer
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> drbobb: worth a shot if it saves you reinstalling
[11:54] <Matisse_> ActionParsnip, thx
[11:55] <drbobb> afaics whatever I put in xorg.conf about the keyboard, the evdev/hal black magic seems to override it anyway
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> gah
[11:56]  * drbobb is utterly confused
[11:57] <Mamarok_> katoda: if you see a something in Systemsettings->Multimedia, then you have phonon :)
[11:58] <Mamarok_> katoda: did you install phonon-backend-xine?
[11:58] <drbobb> autoconfiguration is really cool when it works, when it fails for some reason, you're just f****ed
[11:59] <katoda> Mamarok_: yes, I have phonon-backend-xine
[11:59] <inSane> hello everyone
[12:00] <katoda> hi inSane
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> drbobb: totally, thats why i like control over a lot of my settings (especially network stuff)
[12:01] <inSane> if i were a bloody noob on ubuntu, would you advise me to install KDE 3 or KDE4??
[12:02] <drbobb> well not like computing vidmode timings by yourself was really so much fun, but...
[12:02] <pgquiles> inSane: KDE4
[12:02] <katoda> inSane: KDE3 is more stable and more mature, KDE4 is cutting-edge ;-)
[12:03] <inSane> pgquiles: why?
[12:03] <katoda> inSane: if you want a stable system, then choose KDE3, otherwise choose KDE4
[12:03] <drbobb> read that as: kde3 works now, kde4 will be awesome sometime in the future
[12:03] <katoda> drbobb: KDE4 is awsome now, but a bit unstable ;-)
[12:03] <pgquiles> inSane: because KDE4 works great, is where all our (KDE developers) effort is going and it can run KDE3 apps anyway.
[12:04] <drbobb> katoda: define awesome. For some, it's lots of eyecandy, for me - it's Just Works
[12:05] <inSane> katoda: i am not sure, i want as much performance as possible, but i dont like xfce, because you cant get much help for it at web
[12:05] <katoda> drbobb: it has much better programming API, supports many programming language, has plasma
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> inSane: tried lxde/
[12:05] <katoda> inSane: the easiest way - try both, and then decide ;-)
[12:06] <drbobb> plasma is currently mainly a liability, from the POV that stresses Just Works
[12:06] <inSane> ActionParsnip: lxde ?? never heard about it??
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> !lxde
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> !info lxde
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> inSane: http://www.dacostabalboa.com/es/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/lxde.png
[12:07] <katoda> drbobb: for me plasma is better management of desktop space than just icons
[12:08] <katoda> and for me that works
[12:08] <katoda> but it is a beggining of a flame war ;-)
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> inSane: its a lightweight DE, I use it on my desktop systems
[12:09] <inSane> ActionParsnip: is there much help in web for this DE?
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> inSane: how do you mean?
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> inSane: you can run the same apps you run in kde as you can in LXDE (or any other for that matter)
[12:10] <inSane> because i am a completely noob on ubuntu, the only thing i can is installing a application by sudo apt-get install
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> inSane: thats better than mot, folks usually use synaptic and shy away from command line
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> s/mot/most
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> inSane: all i can suggest is try a few, see which you like
[12:13] <inSane> ActionParsnip: thank you for your advice! i will try!
[12:13] <inSane> is it possible to run ununtu jauthy with kde3??
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> inSane: if you can find a repo with it on then sure (or compile)
[12:16] <inSane> ActionParsnip: i have no idea how to do this - its microsofts fault, it made me stupid! damn M$
[12:17] <faileas> inSane: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Kde3/Jaunty
[12:17] <eagles0513875> hehehe inSane
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> inSane: you install things from repositorys when you use apt-get
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> inSane: if you use the link faileas gave it will tell you what repository to add, you will then download kde3 from the new repository (once you tell your system to) and itwill be installed
[12:18] <inSane> ActionParsnip: thanks, now i feel like the one and only fool on this earth, who didn´t know that =)
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> inSane: your current repos are listed in /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> inSane: its all new so i'm trying to teach you to fish rather than giving you tuna
[12:20] <faileas> inSane: http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/install.html this will also be of use ;)
[12:21]  * faileas has been tempted to try it, actually. KDE4 needs to mature a little more IMO, despite it being what i generally use >_>
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> faileas: use kde4 apps, just not kde4 itself ;)
[12:22] <Peace-> kdenlive user here?
[12:22] <Peace-> i need of tester
[12:22] <Peace-> xD
[12:22] <eagles0513875> Peace-: pm me
[12:22] <faileas> ActionParsnip: thats a possibility
[12:23] <inSane> thanks a lot, ActionParsnip and fileas
[12:28] <inSane> i have one last question: is it Possible to have such a bar with icons like in here: http://yfrog.com/5aleistep (on the bottom)
[12:29] <john> is kubuntu slower than ubuntu?
[12:29] <Peace-> no
[12:29] <john> thanks!
[12:29] <Peace-> if you put ubuntu+kde i think yes
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> john: kde uses slightly more resources than gnome afaik. If your system is decent it will have no effect on speed
[12:29] <john> right
[12:30] <Peace-> bah... ActionParsnip
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> inSane: looks like avant-window-naviator to me
[12:30] <john> i have a 2ghz with ati radeon 9200 512mb ram
[12:30] <Peace-> i am here with 200mb of ram...
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> john: sjould be fine
[12:30] <Peace-> 220
[12:30] <john> actionparsnip is the support harder?
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> Peace-: my fileserver has that :)
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> john: how do you mean "harder"
[12:30] <Peace-> ActionParsnip: what? i am on a desktop
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> Peace-: oic, nice
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> Peace-: tried puppy on it?
[12:31] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: :) can i ask ya a question
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: sure
[12:32] <Peace-> well if kde 3.5.10 runs on pentium 2 350mhz with 256mb of ram
[12:32] <faileas> Peace-: my spare box has 128 :)
[12:32] <inSane> ActionParsnip: thanks, i will ask my aunt google
[12:32] <Peace-> why shall i use another desktoo
[12:32] <Peace-> and yes i have tried puppylinux
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> Peace-: just a casual suggestion of a light distro
[12:32] <eagles0513875> i know this aint the channel for karmic stuff but its not really a question im just tyring to make something from svn source and having some issues atm
[12:32] <eagles0513875> let me paste bin
[12:32] <Peace-> ActionParsnip: well i prefer kde xD distro
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> Peace-: fair point
[12:33] <Peace-> well puppy is harder for wifi stuff
[12:33] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: what am i missing here
[12:33] <Peace-> and kde is a complete desktop then
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> Peace-: i find it equal personally, but orses for courses an all
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: ive not used any svn stuffs
[12:34] <eagles0513875> :( ok
[12:34] <Peace-> mah
[12:34] <eagles0513875> Peace-: you have any idea what im missing
[12:36] <faileas> Peace-: prolly cause puppy runs a 2.4 kernel
[12:36] <Peace-> faileas: maybe
[12:37] <inSane> ActionParsnip: Avant is only for Gnome >.< what a pitty
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> inSane: you can install gtk libs and run it
[12:38] <inSane> so i can run it on kde, too?
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> inSane: only for gnome doesnt mean a lot as you can install all the gnome deps it needs and run it happily
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> inSane: sure, depends on your stance on bloat
[12:39] <Peace-> well i will try kooldock
[12:39] <Peace-> sadly it's for kde3
[12:39] <p-f> Xorg's CPU usage goes to 99% when I type fast / hold keys down. Why? How can I fix this?
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> !find dock
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> !info cairo-dock
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> Peace-: or you can use: apt-cache search dock | less
[12:40] <inSane> ActionParsnip: adept is insalling depends automatically, doesnt it?
[12:40] <Peace-> ActionParsnip: that's nice code
[12:40] <Peace-> inSane: adept?
[12:40] <Peace-> kpackagekit you mean
[12:41] <inSane> Peace: adept package manager... did i say something wrong?
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> inSane: both apt-get and adept will install deps automagically
[12:42] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: fixed my issues
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: good lad :)
[12:43] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: quick apt-get build-dep fix
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: you love that stuff :D
[12:44] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: try running a make -j4 to get it to use all 4 cores now that will boggle your mind even make install -j4 to take advantage of the number of cores your rig has
[12:44] <inSane> ActionParsnip: i have to press my kubuntu-partition at the moment, so i will try that avant-stuff =) looks very fine
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> inSane: some people like it, some dont
[12:45] <inSane> ActionParsnip: thanks again!!you teached me more than google could in a few months.
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> inSane: you'll learn as you use stuff
[12:46] <GorjX> Quelqu'un du Québec ici?
[12:46] <Pici> !fr
[12:47] <GorjX> I have a question about the layout of my keyboard.
[12:47] <katoda> !pl
[13:06] <inSane> Hi again
[13:08] <inSane> one last quetion: i need to install an stable and fast ubuntu-system. wich DE gives me the best performance? is it xfce? or LXDE?
[13:09] <eagles0513875> Peace-: you still around
[13:09] <Peace-> ya
[13:09] <oobe> inSane, that is a matter of opinon no one can answer you and be absolutly correct
[13:11] <inSane> oobe: youre right, but i would like to hear your opinion
[13:12] <jussi01> inSane: thats more a question for #kubuntu-offtopic
[13:13] <inSane> jussi01: ok, thanks, i will try it there
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> inSane: i'd shoot for LXDE but i'm kinda biased
[13:44] <p-f> X eats up to 99% cpu when I type fast / hold keys down. What could be causing this?
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> p-f: are you fully updated
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> p-f: have you installed video drivers and the like so all your hardware is working fully
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> p-f: what cpu speed and ram amount do you have?
[13:58] <p-f> ActionParsnip: I see a bunch of qt4 updates, but that's it
[13:58] <p-f> ActionParsnip: and I never had that problem before 2-3 days ago (didn't change anything)
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> p-f: i'd get fully updated before anything at all
[13:59] <p-f> ActionParsnip: I don't see how updating qt4 would change anything
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> p-f: its a possibility
[13:59] <p-f> ActionParsnip: so having an oudated qt4 would magically have made my typing in non-qt4 applications rise cpu usage to 99%?
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> p-f: better to isolate it out by getting the latest stable release
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> p-f: one less complication to factor in
[14:00] <p-f> ActionParsnip: the thing is I've had more breakage than fixage from upgrading so far when it comes to ubuntu
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> p-f: ok thats cool
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> p-f: let me websearch
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> p-f: ok i read a forum and someone said exactly what you said, keyboard input makes xorg go crazy
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> p-f: there was a link that gave this: http://linux-tipps.blogspot.com/2009/03/fixing-high-latency-with-kde4-display.html
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> p-f: see if it helps
[14:04] <p-f> ActionParsnip: thanks, I'll try that
[14:09] <Mamarok_> ActionParsnip: that is not enabled by default anyway AFAIK
[14:09] <Mamarok_> not in de 4.2.3 at least
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> Mamarok_: its not something ive done but the link was on a page describing identical situation, so kinda makes sense
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> p-f: backup any config files you edit first so you can rollback easily
[14:10] <p-f> ActionParsnip: that page refers to kde though
[14:10] <p-f> ActionParsnip: I'm using ion, kded isn't running at all
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> ion?
[14:10] <Mamarok_> p-f: you know you are in a KDE support forum though?
[14:11] <p-f> Mamarok_: I was under the impression that this was a support channel for kubuntu, the linux distribution (which I am using)
[14:11] <Mamarok_> which uses KDE
[14:11] <p-f> but KDE is just the top layer
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> p-f: true, its still the same x server etc
[14:12] <Mamarok_> p-f: if you are using ion with Qt it's not the same
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> oh
[14:12] <p-f> Mamarok_: it still doesn't magically turn my distro into something else
[14:13] <Mamarok_> p-f: "it" doesn't, you did :) The only thing in comen as the basic Linux layer AFAIK
[14:13] <Mamarok_> common* even
[14:14] <p-f> and the versions for every single package but kde4
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> p-f: maybe its a poor ion config
[14:14] <Mamarok_> ActionParsnip: ion is a keyboard only shell manager IIRC
[14:15]  * p-f waves his mouse around
[14:15] <p-f> guess not
[14:15] <p-f> :p
[14:15] <Mamarok_> p-f: it was thought to be, wasn't it?
[14:15] <p-f> I'll try from another WM, see what happens
[14:15] <p-f> Mamarok_: well, its main focus is on tiling / keyboard shortcuts
[14:15] <p-f> Mamarok_: (and depressive/emo main dev, but that's another story)
[14:16] <Mamarok_> p-f: from what I remember it was supposed to be usable without mouse
[14:16] <claudio_> hi
[14:16] <p-f> Mamarok_: yeah I guess it is
[14:16] <claudio_> how can i make work the webcam with pidgin?
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> claudio_: it doesnt support webcam afaik
[14:16] <p-f> claudio_: I'm pretty sure it's not supported
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> claudio_: what protocol are you wanting to use with webcam
[14:17] <claudio_> wow
[14:17] <claudio_> thx
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> claudio_: if you are using msn, try amsn
[14:17] <claudio_> do u know another application that supports that?
[14:17] <claudio_> i use yahoo
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> i think gyache supports webcam for yahoo, i know it does voice
[14:18] <p-f> claudio_: GyachE
[14:18] <p-f> beaten to it again, darn
[14:19] <Mamarok_> p-f: your WM is too slow ;)
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> hahahah
[14:20]  * ActionParsnip is on his XP Pro work lappy ;)
[14:21] <p-f> ah...all the time I would have saved, had I stayed on XP Pro with winsplit revolution to replace a tiling wm
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> i'd have missed xp altogether if it wasnt for this thing
[14:23] <Matisse> hi
[14:23] <Matisse> With Alsa:  is it possible to send sound signals to 2 sound cards (onboard + plugged) or if not is it possible to reverse a input channel to an output channel?
[14:25] <Matisse> is there a command to list all recognized sound cards?
[14:26] <reese> hi. i have no sound on the test in system settings->multimedia. most of the sound works, except amarok, though
[14:26] <p-f> Matisse: there's lspci, but that's for pci only
[14:26] <reese> it happened after some automatic upgrade
[14:26] <reese> is there a way to restore it?
[14:27] <Matisse> p-f, so it won't show onboard stuff?
[14:27] <Dragnslcr> Matisse- aplay -l
[14:27] <p-f> Matisse: mine's showing up
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> Matisse: it will show everything atatched to the pci bus. usbstuff is listed with lsusb
[14:32] <BluesKaj> howdy
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> hi BluesKaj
[14:33] <BluesKaj> hi ActionParsnip
[14:34] <gustavonarea> Hello. Since I upgraded to KDE 4.2.3, I can't access my feeds in akregator anymore. The whole kontact crashes a few minutes after I start akregator. Is this a known issue? There's a workaround?
[14:37] <gustavonarea> Here's the output, just in case http://pastebin.com/m399d8e04 (I've removed the URLs for my feeds: some of them are private and they all used to work anyway)
[14:41] <tiredbones> I wish to install kdar on distro 8.10, but I use gnome. Could someone point me to instruction to install kdar on my system?
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> !info kdar
[14:44] <Pici> tiredbones: Just like you were told in #ubuntu, kdar has not been in the repositories since dapper.  Ubuntu and Kubuntu share the same repos.
[14:45] <enzi> hi, where can i find the boot file?? i want to add a line, that a prog starts allways when i boot the PC
[14:46] <Pici> !boot | enzi
[14:46] <Taggnostr> hello
[14:46] <tiredbones> Pici, I was not informed on #ubuntu that they share the same repos. In fact I was told to ask the question on this group.
[14:47] <tiredbones> Pici, Thanks for your time.
[14:48] <tiredbones> Dose anyone know if kdar will be supported in the future on ubuntu?
[14:49] <Pici> tiredbones: not likely, it hasn't been in the repositories for nearly 6 releases.
[14:49] <Pici> It was probably removed for a good reason
[14:50] <tiredbones> Pici, do you know of any other frontend for dar?
[14:50] <Pici> tiredbones: backup-manager appears to be the only package that depends on dar, so you could try that.
[14:52] <nameiner> hi folks, does anybody know if there is a place for scripts that should be run after each resume from suspend to disk?
[14:54] <tiredbones> Has anyone here tried cedar-backup2 for thier backups to cd or dvds?
[14:59] <Taggnostr> I dist-upgraded trial (a tool of python-twisted) and it's not working anymore, I asked in the twisted channel and they said me that it is a package bug and I should report it
[15:00] <Taggnostr> and trial*
[15:04] <Taggnostr> I can't find it anything in the bug tracker, should I open a new one?
[15:05] <reese> after some upgrades, i have no sound in amarok, although other apps' sound work. using xine backend, i also have no system sound
[15:05] <reese> using gstreamer, i get system sound, but still no amarok sound
[15:05] <reese> anyone had this issue?
[15:06] <xorvat> привет всем . как можно поменять разрешение экрана? в каких файлах оно хранится ?
[15:07] <kalorin-> generally speaking it seems like sound under linux is a little behind
[15:07] <kalorin-> !russian
[15:42] <enzi> how can i activate my 4th mousebutton for the Dolphine and Opera?
[15:42] <enzi> forward and backward (4th and 5th)
[15:49] <GnuBoi> Guys, i have recently installed kubuntu 9.04 in my computer
[15:49] <GnuBoi> now internet runs only in quassel and kopete
[15:49] <GnuBoi> but not in konqueror
[15:49] <GnuBoi> kpackagekit
[15:49] <GnuBoi> what to do
[15:55] <Pconfig> GnuBoi: are you surfing behind a proxy?
[15:56] <GnuBoi> no
[15:56] <GnuBoi> ads
[15:56] <GnuBoi> adsl
[15:56] <Pconfig> what does konqueror show as error message?
[15:57] <GnuBoi> The requested operation could not be completed
[15:57] <GnuBoi> Connection to Server Refused
[15:58] <GnuBoi> only quassel and kopete work
[15:59] <Pconfig> that's strange, seems like your firewall is blocking the other applications
[16:00] <GnuBoi> where is firewall
[16:00] <Pconfig> did konq work when you just installed everything?
[16:00] <GnuBoi> ok i will check in windows
[16:07]  * wirechief-bughun is goes to lunch: Gone away for now
[16:18] <desafinado> can i install " add/remove applications ", like in ubuntu?
[16:20] <BluesKaj-laptop> desafinado, use the package manager
[16:21] <desafinado> kpackagekit you mean?
[16:21] <desafinado> i'm a lil bit confused with that
[16:22] <BluesKaj-laptop> yes
[16:22] <BluesKaj-laptop> or synaptic if youstill have it
[16:22] <desafinado> i have install synaptic but still no "add/remove applications"
[16:23] <BluesKaj-laptop> I installed adept because the kpaackage kit isn't my cuppa tea
[16:24] <BluesKaj-laptop> just remove the applications in synaptic
[16:24] <reese> i'm sudenly getting no system sound with the xine backend. anyone knows why?
[16:24] <desafinado> you mean like in kubuntu 8. 10?
[16:25] <BluesKaj-laptop> ot sudo apt-get remove 'applicationfile' in the terminal
[16:25] <BluesKaj-laptop> or
[16:31] <Dillizar> hey how is kde 4.2 and kubuntu 9.04 does it work on intel 950 Graphic chipset
[16:32] <Pici> Dillizar: You may experience some issues with intel chipsets, see the release notes:
[16:32] <GnuBoi> how to enable mp3,dvd,flash in kubuntu 9.04
[16:32] <Pici> !notes
[16:32] <GnuBoi> pici: whole render is slow in my lapto
[16:32] <Pici> GnuBoi: Install the kubuntu-restricted-extras package
[16:33] <GnuBoi> how to install
[16:33] <GnuBoi> kpackagekit doesn;t work
[16:33] <Dillizar> Pici, cuz i want to put kubuntu on blue pc150 asus :) it will look good
[16:37] <GnuBoi> Pici: check this http://pastebin.com/d4462de6e
[16:39] <Pici> GnuBoi: The firefox package name is firefox-3.0 or firefox-3.1
[16:39] <Pici> I don't know what the other package is, I'm actually a gnome person <.<
[16:39] <GnuBoi> pici and how to install restricted extras packagge
[16:39] <wrinkliez> hey guys.  ive installed wine on kubuntu, and i would like to make it so that when i click browse c:/ drive, it opens up in dolphin to my c drive.  right now it just spits out an error.  do you guys know what command i would put to have dolphin open up at a specific directory?
[16:39] <Pici> GnuBoi: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:40] <GnuBoi> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:40] <GnuBoi> ujjwol@GnuBoi:~$ sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:40] <GnuBoi> Reading package lists... Done
[16:40] <GnuBoi> Building dependency tree
[16:40] <GnuBoi> Reading state information... Done
[16:40] <GnuBoi> E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:40] <GnuBoi> ujjwol@GnuBoi:~$
[16:45] <reese> is amarok 2.1 beta 2 in the the experimental repo?
[16:49] <kstinger> any help, i can't recieved and send webcam in kopete under kubuntu jaunty
[16:52] <Allydede> where is the image path ?
[16:52] <JukeBoxHero> hey, what are the kde4 styles you guys got in repos?
[16:58] <jado> hi, i'm trying to increase my mouse sensitivity ; i've found the 'Advanced Tab' if the panel 'Keyboard and Mouse' to change the acceleration of the mouse but i didn't find something to change the sensitivity
[17:00] <swatto> Hello all, anyone know an alternate bluetooth application I can use.  WHen I try and send a file with kbluetooth it sends the file and then at a 100% comes up with a obex.link error
[17:00] <Mamarok_> swatto: both devices know each other?
[17:00] <swatto> yes I think so
[17:01] <Pconfig> swatto: you could use 'bluetooth-applet' and file a bug report on kbluetooth
[17:01] <swatto> ill try sending a file and tell you the exact message I get, two secs
[17:01] <Mamarok_> swatto: there have been reports of transmission only working in one direction
[17:02] <swatto> I havent tried sending a file from the phone, i could try that
[17:02] <Mamarok_> swatto: "yes, I think so" is not enough, are you sure?
[17:02] <Mamarok_> both devices must see eachother and know eachother
[17:02] <Mamarok_> know = identify to each other
[17:02] <swatto> well my phone picks up my computer and accepts the transfer and it starts transferring
[17:03] <Mamarok_> ok, that side works
[17:03] <Pconfig> jado: what's wrong with changing the acceleration?
[17:03] <GnuBoi> isn't there any wiki documentation for enabling mp3,flash,dvd in kubuntu
[17:03] <Mamarok_> GnuBoi: you need to install the necessary Codecs
[17:03] <Mamarok_> !codecs
[17:03] <Pconfig> GnuBoi: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted
[17:04] <GnuBoi> Pconfig: wait it is installing firefox after i will reply
[17:05] <xjjk> Pconfig, GnuBoi: I think it's kubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:05] <Pconfig> xjjk, my bad, you're right :)
[17:05] <GnuBoi> ujjwol@GnuBoi:~$ sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:05] <GnuBoi> Reading package lists... Done
[17:05] <GnuBoi> Building dependency tree
[17:05] <GnuBoi> Reading state information... Done
[17:05] <GnuBoi> E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:07] <xjjk> GnuBoi: just wondering, have you enabled the non-free repositories and what not
[17:07] <GnuBoi> what does that mena
[17:07] <GnuBoi> i have just installed kubunutu is now installing firefox
[17:08] <Pconfig> GnuBoi: open kpackagekit, go to settings, click edit software sources, then check multiverse
[17:08] <swatto> I have managed to send a file to my computer fine, but recieving a file on my phone doesnt work
[17:09] <refic> gotta install some daily build I guess
[17:09] <Mamarok_> swatto: then it's a bug, I think there already is one in Launchpad for it, wait...
[17:09] <Mamarok_> refic: what do you mean?
[17:09] <swatto> what is launchpad?
[17:10] <Xcell> my update manager has 4 blocked items..and i cant do anything with it.. how to fix?
[17:10] <GnuBoi> Pconfig: it is already ticked
[17:10] <refic> I was just talking to myself.. I'm downloading kubuntu 9.10 daily build
[17:10] <jado> Pconfig: changing the acceleration is not as changing the sensitivity
[17:11] <Mamarok_> swatto: Launchpad is the place where X/K/Ubuntu related bugs are reported, it also hosts a lot of other services
[17:11] <Mamarok_> !Launchpad
[17:12] <Pconfig> GnuBoi, that's odd, does kpackagekit find the package?
[17:12] <swatto> thankyou mamarok
[17:12] <Mamarok_> you are welcome, swatto :)
[17:12] <GnuBoi> apt-get,kpackagekit cannot find find even firefox
[17:12] <swatto> i love this channel :P
[17:13] <GnuBoi> aptitude is now working to install firefox
[17:13] <Mamarok_> swatto: you use Jaunty, right?
[17:13] <swatto> yep
[17:14] <Pconfig> jado: you sure this isn't the case on linux either? it feels like it's the same for me when i play with it
[17:14] <Pconfig> GnuBoi: what does 'sudo apt-get update' do for you?
[17:15]  * jussi01 waves in Mamarok_'s direction
[17:15] <GnuBoi> it is now downloading packages
[17:16] <Mamarok_> swatto: there are seemingly a lot of bugs for kbluetooth in Launchpad, but I think this is the one:
[17:16] <Mamarok_> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/obexpushd/+bug/183658
[17:17] <GnuBoi> Pconfig: it has done
[17:17] <GnuBoi> now how to enable mp3
[17:17] <Pconfig> sudo apt-get update worked?
[17:17] <swatto> Mamarok: hehe, I was just looking at that - unfortunately mine is the other way around, I cannot send to my phone but I can recieve
[17:17] <Pconfig> now try sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:17] <GnuBoi> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:18] <GnuBoi> E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:18] <Mamarok_> swatto: yes, but I think the problem is the same, for some people it works that way, for others the other way around
[17:18] <GnuBoi> E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:19] <swatto> ahh ok, well ill wait and see what the outcome is mamarok.  I have registered on launchpad anyway
[17:19] <Mamarok_> swatto: just subscribe to the bug, so you get notified if there are some changes
[17:20] <Pconfig> GnuBoi: that's very odd:|
[17:20] <GnuBoi> apt-get install choqok also doesnot work
[17:20] <GnuBoi> only firefox got installed
[17:22] <Ahmuck> hi.  i noticed that it appears that kubuntu has replaced a lot of kde apps with odd apps, ie, quassel, dragon player, etc.
[17:23] <Ahmuck> anybody know the reasoning behind this?
[17:24] <jussi01> Ahmuck: the old ones were not ported at time of release
[17:24] <refic> dragon player is something I've been wondering too.. it simply sucks imo
[17:24] <Ahmuck> jussi01: ok, thx
[17:24] <Dragnslcr> I believe Quassel was made the default because the KDE4 version of Konversation isn't ready yet
[17:24] <Ahmuck> so, assuming that they get ported for the next release, will the apps be changing again?
[17:24] <refic> what's the status of those apps nowadays?
[17:25] <jussi01> Ahmuck: I guess that depends on the quality and so on.
[17:25] <Ahmuck> essentially, kde is still stuck at 3.x because of porting
[17:25] <jussi01> refic: best to go look at the individual home pages of the apps
[17:25] <refic> yeah, guess so
[17:26] <jussi01> abyway, to discuss it lets move to #kubuntu-offtopic - any support questions here. :)
[17:26] <Ahmuck> this kinda puts kde4 in beta mode still, and kubuntu 9.04 in limbo mode
[17:26] <refic> hehe yeah
[17:26] <Ahmuck> heh, installing a fresh install of kubuntu 9.04 and not finding the familiar apps is a support question, no ?
[17:27] <Ahmuck> k, amarok in kubuntu 9.04 is not opening pls streams
[17:29] <Ahmuck> what changed between kubuntu 8.04.1 and kubuntu 9.04 that causes online radio pls streams not to play
[17:30] <GnuBoi> Pconfig: ok bye, this(multiverse repo) is not figured out, screen rendering is slow and bad so i think i need to stick with my stable fedora configuration, thanks for your time and reply....
[17:30] <jussi01> Ahmuck: as far as I remember amarok got upgraded?
[17:30] <GnuBoi> ok bye
[17:31] <Unununium> Kubuntu 9.04: How do I use the KDE Display Size & Orientation dialog to configure a multi-head setup?  I can only get the two displays to overlay each other.
[17:31] <ksal> hi all
[17:32] <refic> hello
[17:33] <ksal> i'm on kubuntu jaunty, i've got such a problem, that when I i.e open amarok and play music and then open konqueror or any other browser or application that has some sounds, i can only hear a sound from amarok.
[17:33] <ksal> and it doesn't matter if i pause music, i still have sound only in amarok as if it is reserved for it.
[17:34] <ksal> maybe someone knows the answer?
[17:34] <phh> Unununium: if it's like for nvidia you can drag&drop screens
[17:34] <Unununium> ATI, actually, using the radeon driver.  Drag&drop does nothing.  All screens have their upper-left corner at (0,0).
[17:35] <m0r0n> Anyone willing to help me out on uninstalling Ubuntu, or helping me fix something so I don't have to
[17:36] <Xcell> I have 4 packages stuck in update manager.. how and what should be done?
[17:37] <ksal> Xcell: run update from terminal
[17:37] <Xcell> i did..they are still there
[17:37] <kremsner> hy there
[17:37] <kremsner> I got a problem with jaunty. Everytime I want to log in the ICEauthority has no writeaccess to my user
[17:37] <ksal> strange, AFAIK, packagekit isn't yet capable of updates that have dependency packages to install.
[17:38] <kremsner> so I switch to console and chown it
[17:38] <kremsner> but after a reboot I have to do it again
[17:38] <swatto> man im bored.....
[17:38] <Xcell> well it has 4 kernel updates stuck in it and nothing works as far as installing them..it says (4 blocked packages)
[17:39] <ksal> did you try 'sudo apt-get upgrade' ?
[17:39] <Dragnslcr> Xcell- same thing here. I don't think it's a real problem
[17:39] <Xcell> yes.. and all is fine..i just want to clear the package mngr so it is clear from this
[17:40] <ksal> so you have to make these updates
[17:40] <kremsner> I got a problem with jaunty. Everytime I want to log in the ICEauthority has no writeaccess to my user. so I switch to console and chown it. but after a reboot I have to do it again
[17:41] <ksal> in terminal there shouldn't be problems
[17:41] <Xcell> i did sudo apt-get update.. its fine there.. i just want the pkg mngr cleaned up
[17:42] <Unununium> Also, I am having some display corruption issues with the "radeon" driver and would like to use "fglrx" (which works for me in Slackware).  However, my card is no longer supported, so I need an older version of the driver.  Can I get an old package, or do I have to do a manual install?
[17:42] <tsukasa> hello
[17:43] <phh> Underliner: check the result of aptitude search fglrx
[17:43] <Xcell> also.. compiz is installed and the cube only works 2 dtops..i have 4 on the panel but 4 do not show any cube...interesting
[17:43] <tsukasa> someone can tell me how to run kismet or if it is the same wireshark?
[17:43] <phh> i think it would give you the old versions too
[17:45] <Ahmuck> jussi01: sorry, steped away.  yes, as far as i knew, it was upgraded, but i'm unable to get a simple stream i was playing before the upgrade to play
[17:49] <Ahmuck> is there a way to turn off effects in kde4 ?
[17:50] <jussi01> Ahmuck: system settings - desktop
[17:51] <kremsner> I got a problem with jaunty. Everytime I want to log in the ICEauthority has no writeaccess to my user. so I switch to console and chown it. but after a reboot I have to do it again
[18:00] <kremsner> I got a problem with jaunty. Everytime I want to log in the ICEauthority has no writeaccess to my user. so I switch to console and chown it. but after a reboot I have to do it again
[18:01] <Peace-> kremsner: it's easy
[18:01] <Peace-> sudo adduser NAME
[18:01] <Peace-> sudo adduser NAME admin
[18:02] <Peace-> create another user with admin stuff
[18:02] <Peace-> and so you can delete the old file on your .kde
[18:02] <Tm_T> Peace-: how that has to do with that issue?
[18:02] <afeijo> where can I edit $PATH to add a new folder?
[18:02] <kremsner> Peace: y?
[18:03] <kremsner> need to permanently make iceauthority writeable
[18:03] <Peace-> then you can try to fix the old stuff
[18:03] <Peace-> i had that problem and i have deleted  iceautoriryty file
[18:03] <Peace-> if i remember well
[18:03] <kremsner> deleted it already
[18:04] <kremsner> didnt work
[18:04] <Tm_T> Peace-: one don't need to create new user for that, son
[18:04] <Peace-> Tm_T: i have fixed in that way.
[18:04] <Peace-> Tm_T: next time instead of sleep write your solution.
[18:04] <Tm_T> Peace-: I don't know the solution, but I can tell if one is totally wrong
[18:05] <Peace-> Tm_T: dude i use linux from 3 years
[18:05] <Peace-> and that is my experience
[18:05] <Peace-> if you wanna try well
[18:05] <Peace-> if not there is not problem is not mine problem
[18:05] <Peace-> my
[18:06] <Peace-> kremsner: try this
[18:06] <afeijo> where can I edit $PATH to add a new folder?
[18:06] <Tm_T> afeijo: for one user or whole system?
[18:06] <Peace-> kremsner: create another user and try to fix the other user using the new icefiles
[18:06] <afeijo> Tm_T: for me its enough :)
[18:06] <afeijo> Tm_T: I checked .bashrc and didnt find
[18:07] <Peace-> afeijo: sudo updatedb && locate bashrc | grep $USER
[18:07] <Tm_T> afeijo: add there then, one way is to add "export PATH=/newpath;PATH" to your .bashrc
[18:07] <afeijo> oh ok Tm_T thanks
[18:08] <afeijo> Tm_T:  newpath;PATH or newpath:PATH ?
[18:08] <Tm_T> afeijo: : that is, my bad
[18:08] <afeijo> no problem!!
[18:10] <swatto> hmm thats strange, konversation is not autojoining the two channels I have set, it only joins this one
[18:12] <swatto> any ideas anyone?
[18:13] <ghouly> good evening all, i recently upgraded from hardy to jaunty on my laptop, when i rightclick on the battery icon in the taskbar at the bottom right i can select CPU policy : powersave/dynamic/performance.    everytime i switch from dynamic to powersave, the screen is locked, which is annoying, but it's not when i switch from powersave to dynamic, any idea how i can deactivate the screenlock please ?
[18:13] <ghouly> (locked as in it turns black, and when i move the mouse it asks for password)
[18:15] <Tm_T> ghouly: have you looked around powersaving settings?
[18:17] <ghouly> Tm_T there is something "lock screen on resume", i thought this was for hibernate or something, i now deactivated it, and it doesn't ask for a password anymore
[18:17] <ghouly> but it still turns black for a second
[18:17] <Tm_T> ghouly: aye, weird still indeed, seems like there gets something triggered in wrong place
[18:18] <hunter_> help. i will install ubuntu and crunchbang on a falsh disk. i have the image .iso already downloada but i know how i can istall it on my usb.
[18:18] <hunter_> flash disk,
[18:18] <Tm_T> !usb
[18:18] <Tm_T> hunter_: check that
[18:20] <hunter_> preapare the usb stick, great, what does it mean? #
[18:20] <hunter_> formating?
[18:20] <ghouly> anyway at least i don't have to enter the password all the time, thanks Tm_T  =)
[18:20] <ghouly> have a nice evening
[18:22] <swatto> Anyone know a support channel for Konversation - it is not auto-joining to multiple channels
[18:22] <Tm_T> #konversation ?
[18:23] <swatto> cheers :)
[18:30] <hunter_> thanks 4 the links but they are not helpfull
[18:32] <hunter_> anybody know how to install linux on usb? .iso is already here
[18:33] <phh> well.. just.. install it.
[18:33] <phh> (yes it's that simple.)
[18:33] <hunter_> funny..
[18:33] <hunter_> great help, thx
[18:33] <phh> the same way as you would do with a hard drive
[18:33] <hunter_> somebody smart enough to help me?
[18:33] <hunter_> nope. but thx
[18:34] <phh> ....
[18:34] <smurfslover> hunter_: you mean you don't know what do to with the .iso file
[18:34] <smurfslover> ?
[18:34] <hunter_> exact
[18:34] <phh> ....
[18:34] <phh> i assume it was meant to be explicit.
[18:34] <smurfslover> first of all don't extract it
[18:35] <smurfslover> you need to write it to cd as an image
[18:35] <hunter_> i am reading the whole day in internet, nothing, everything, every page with some §help" is different to the others and not helpfull
[18:35] <hunter_> done
[18:35] <hunter_> on cd, .iso
[18:36] <smurfslover> then boot your computer from the cd
[18:37] <hunter_> ok, something else, i habve the crunchbang on the cd as .iso, and i want to install this crunchbang on usb
[18:37] <swatto> Anyone know how I can make my GUI font bigger and more clearly please - its awfully tiny because of my monitor size
[18:38] <smurfslover> swatto: systemsettings/appearance/fonts
[18:39] <swatto> thankyou smurfslover
[18:39] <little> hunter: Did you burn Ubuntu to CD as an image?
[18:39] <smurfslover> there's an option to make them all bigger but you can better play with the settings tell you got it the way you want
[18:39] <hunter_> i can not boot a .iso. can i?
[18:40] <smurfslover> in a virtual machine
[18:40] <smurfslover> but not on real hardware
[18:40] <hunter_> hwo
[18:40] <hunter_> how
[18:40] <smurfslover> what operating system do you use now?
[18:41] <hunter_> ubuntu 8-04 is running, i want to install from the cd, .iso crunchbang, to the usb.. so,
[18:43] <jussi01> hunter_: you want to install from a usb?
[18:43] <hunter_> and, if i type this, fdisk /dev/sda, i get this, Die Anzahl der Zylinder für diese Platte ist auf 19457 gesetzt
[18:43] <smurfslover> hunter_: it is possible but won't be easy
[18:43] <hunter_> no from cd (.iso crunchbang) to the usb
[18:43] <smurfslover> better burn the iso to cd, then run the livecd or installcd to install it
[18:43] <hunter_> how
[18:43] <hunter_> nero, i know,,
[18:44] <jussi01> !usb
[18:44] <hunter_> but there must be another way. like this... http://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-ubuntu-804-persistent-install-from-linux/#more-401
[18:44] <smurfslover> thx jussi01 interesting :)
[18:44] <hunter_> i already read this, not helpfull
[18:45] <smurfslover> but he wants to install crunchbang to usb
[18:45] <hunter_> always error messages
[18:45] <hunter_> well, i have also ubuntu 9.04 on cd, as .iso
[18:45] <little> hunter_: How about this page: http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-install-ubuntu-linux-on-usb-bar
[18:46] <JukeBoxHero> hey, what are the kde4 styles you guys got in repos?
[18:47] <smurfslover> JukeBoxHero: bespin is there and that's all i need :)
[18:49] <smurfslover> no qt4 version of kmess in the repo yet?
[18:50] <hunter_> if i type this, sudo fdisk /dev/sdb i get this, Befehl (m für Hilfe):  then i open the help and see that there is the "n" 4 new parition. but i get kick back to the help menue
[18:51] <hunter_> it says, it is FAT. how can i change it?
[18:52] <little> hunter_: Are you comfortable with opening up your computer and disconnecting your hard drive(s)?
[18:53] <estan> anyone having serious performance regressions with intel graphics in the intrepid->jaunty upgrade? i'm running KDE+qt-copy trunk (so not kubuntu packages), and i haven't recompiled since i did the upgrade (maybe i should do that first and see if it makes a difference). e.g. switching between windows and minimize/maximize has become very slow since the upgrade.
[18:53] <hunter_> sure. but for which reason?
[18:54] <Pici> estan: That issue was mentioned in the release notes.
[18:54] <estan> Pici: looking at the Known Issues for the release, i can't see anything about bad performance with intel graphics, just a note about Qt repaint bugs.
[18:54] <coutts99> estan: jaunty sucks for intel
[18:54] <hunter_> i can not start a .iso from cd. or? i mean, if i restart my pc, have the iso inside
[18:54] <Pici> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/904#Performance%20regressions%20on%20Intel%20graphics%20cards
[18:54] <little> hunter_: If you burn the .iso file to a CD as an image, then shut down the computer with the CD in the drive, then disconnect the hard drive(s), then boot with the CD, then insert the USB drive, then it will install to the USB drive.
[18:55] <estan> coutts99: do you know if there's a way to downgrade to an earlier intel driver version?
[18:55] <hunter_> sure?#
[18:55] <estan> Pici: but maybe that's what the note meant, i should check the bug that is linked to..
[18:55] <coutts99> estan: I upgraded the kernel to 2.6.29 and added the xorg edgers ppa and it kinda fixed it. I'm running karmic now though
[18:55] <coutts99> estan: search the forums, theres loads of posts about it
[18:57] <estan> coutts99: alright thanks. do you use UXA?
[18:57]  * swatto|away is away: Gone away for now
[18:57] <coutts99> estan: yes, it is fixable, it's just a pain in the arse
[18:57] <coutts99> estan: IMHO it is a big flaw and should have been fix for jaunty
[18:58] <estan> coutts99: amen to that ;)
[18:58] <dylan_> anyone here know anything about getting kde 3.5 in xubuntu 9.04 ?
[18:58] <coutts99> estan: nearly made me move to another distro
[18:58] <jussi01> estan: if you look at the release nots it has suggested fixes
[18:58] <jussi01> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyJackalope/ReleaseNotes
[18:58] <estan> jussi01: ah that's a much better page. i was just looking at the Known Issues section in the release announcement. thanks.
[18:59] <jussi01> estan: ahh
[18:59] <dylan_> I installed a package from pearson computing and it installed all the kde 3.5 apps to /opt/kde3/bin, but I am not sure if I run these programs from there if my computer will screw up or not, or do I need to set paths, or envir variables, ??
[18:59] <estan> coutts99: by "fixable" you mean it's fixable by just enabling UXA? or you need to add the xorg edgers ppa too?
[19:00] <coutts99> estan: it was a few weeks ago when I tried, I had to upgrade kernel, enable uxa, and the xorg edgers helped
[19:00] <estan> coutts99: alright.
[19:00] <dylan_> I found this page    https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Kde3/Jaunty,    but I am not sure where to set the envir variables
[19:00] <coutts99> estan: try this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582&highlight=jaunty+intel
[19:02] <estan> coutts99: ah thanks.
[19:02] <coutts99> anyone know how I can retrive a lost password from nickserv? been a while since a irc'd :)
[19:02] <ubunturos> anyone who has downloaded Kubuntu 9.04 through Bit torrents in the past or current week?
[19:02] <ubunturos> the torrent simply stalls in KTorrent and appears as if there are *no* seeders :(
[19:05] <estan> coutts99: just a last question, that guide says that xorg-edgers ppa will bring in 2.6.30-rc5.. is that what you're on now? any instabilities? the guide says that x-updates ppa will give you 2.6.29.
[19:06] <coutts99> estan: I am on 2.6.30-rc5, but I'm running karmic, no problems at all with 2.6.30 though
[19:06] <coutts99> estan: you can always tab at the grub menu and boot your previous kernel should the worst happen :)
[19:06] <coutts99> estan: i'd give 2.6.30 a try if i were you
[19:06] <estan> coutts99: that's true. *puts on helmet and adds repo*. ;)
[19:07] <coutts99> estan: good luck!
[19:08] <estan> i'm just trying to remember if i need any restricted drivers, but i don't think so.. it's all intel.. the 3945 intel wifi isn't restricted is it?
[19:08] <coutts99> estan: don't think so, grrr restricted drivers for ati is another thing I hate :)
[19:09] <juacom99> hi, i just download Kubuntu 9.04 64amd, i copy the .iso to a windows machine using samba and then burn a cd. The cd buring finish ok. but when i boot from it and select install kubuntu or select the live i get a I/o Error in severals memory blocks. any idea what may be happening?
[19:10] <estan> yea.. i never had an ati. i have nvidia on the desktop though and it's been a pain from time to time.
[19:10] <coutts99> estan: i have ati on my daughters computer and the restricted drivers just will no work, so no 3d accel. It's driving me mad!
[19:10] <estan> just checked and iwl3945 seems to not be in restricted.. hm hm. could there be something else..
[19:11] <estan> coutts99: :/
[19:11] <coutts99> estan: she really wants supertux2 and tuxcart!
[19:12] <estan> coutts99: aww.
[19:12] <coutts99> estan: you should be fine, just give it a whirl, you can always remove 2.6.30 if you have problems!
[19:12] <juacom99> any idea what's happening?? if i boot with a cd with kubuntu 8.10 it boot ok
[19:12] <coutts99> juacom99: bad cd?
[19:12] <juacom99> is the 2º time it happend
[19:12] <juacom99> :S
[19:12] <juacom99> with 2 diferents cds :S
[19:12] <coutts99> does the md5 checksum checkout?
[19:12] <estan> if you ever get it working, depending on your daughter's age, i can really recommend that goo-something game that was released for linux a while ago.
[19:12] <juacom99> i check the md5sum
[19:12] <juacom99> and is ok
[19:12] <coutts99> estan: yeah i've got the demo on my laptop :)
[19:12] <estan> coutts99: world of goo, that's the name.
[19:13] <estan> ah.
[19:13] <coutts99> not showing her until i get the ati working though or i'll not get her off my laptop!
[19:13] <estan> heh.
[19:13] <coutts99> juacom99: have you tried it on another machine?
[19:13] <ubunturos> is anyone currently downloading Kubuntu 9.04 through the torrent file on kubuntu.org ?
[19:14] <juacom99> nop
[19:14] <juacom99> ubunturos: i download it from the torrent
[19:14] <ubunturos> juacom99: apparently, the torrent file is stalling on Ktorrent
[19:14] <ubunturos> juacom99: as if there are *no* seeders :(
[19:15] <juacom99> the 64amd have some seeders
[19:15] <juacom99> from me at last
[19:15] <coutts99> ubunturos: post the link to torrent and ill try it
[19:15] <ubunturos> juacom99: hmm, I'm looking for i386
[19:16] <juacom99> is the kubuntu shipping  page down??
[19:16] <ubunturos> juacom99: http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/simple/jaunty/desktop/kubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[19:16] <ubunturos> err, coutts99, ^
[19:17] <coutts99> ubunturos: link not opening :\
[19:17] <juacom99> coutts99: is working for me
[19:17] <ubunturos> coutts99: that's a torrent link, you'll have to copy the link and paste in Ktorrent
[19:17] <coutts99> hang on :)
[19:17] <ubunturos> coutts99: the page's here: http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download
[19:17] <coutts99> oops it is working :)
[19:18] <coutts99> 585 seeders downloadin at full 10mb
[19:24] <ubunturos> coutts99: I'll try again
[19:25] <juacom99> is this web https://shipit.kubuntu.org/ working for you guys?
[19:25] <coutts99> juacom99: yes it loads
[19:26] <juacom99> mm i get a certification error :S
[19:27] <coutts99> cert seems ok to me
[19:29] <juacom99> maybe is my machine :S
[19:29] <juacom99> is my firefox
[19:29] <coutts99> maybe
[19:29] <juacom99> i try in konkeros and is working
[19:29] <coutts99> does konqueror work?
[19:29] <coutts99> ah :)
[19:30]  * swatto is back.
[19:31] <timo> hi there, I just upgraded to ubuntu 9.04, but when I try to boot it, it says "Error 15: file not found."   What do I do?
[19:31] <ubunturos> argh! for reasons unknown, I'm unable to download
[19:32] <coutts99> timo: iv seen that before, i *think* i re-ran grub install to fix it
[19:32] <coutts99> timo: try searching the forums
[19:32] <timo> ok thanks I will
[19:36] <HfX> cool. bin grade in ner live session auf 9.04 und muss sagen, fühlt sich schneller an als 8.10 bei mir auf der kiste!
[19:37] <Pici> !de
[19:37] <HfX> ups
[19:37] <HfX> sorry
[19:38] <HfX> just wanted to say I am in a live session from cd on hp 6735b notebook. wlan works and the feeling of the system is very fast! - nice 9.04
[19:38] <SteBo> Hi! There is an announcment about KDE 4.3 Beta 1 packages for Jaunty on Kubuntu.org, but when I add the repository, no upgrade is offered.
[19:39] <SteBo> HfX: So install it! :-)
[19:39] <coutts99> SteBo: I'm on 4.3 (well my work machine is, don;t work at home though) and it is brilliant :) I'm using karmic though!
[19:40] <HfX> SteBo: need my system for work running vmwares with windows. will have to find time to insert a new drive and then install so having a full immediately fallback. but I surely will do it.
[19:41] <SteBo> HfX: Great. :-) Maybe you could use the Linux version of VMWare at one point.
[19:41] <SteBo> coutts99: Nice to hear. :-) But I still wonder about that announcement and where the Jaunty packages are.
[19:42] <HfX> SteBo: I am. I ran 8.04 and xp in vm but need that on a daily basis so no option to make experiments. that's what I ment
[19:42] <SteBo> HfX: Ah, ok.
[19:42] <stodge> Is rekonq available for kubuntu?
[19:43] <estan> coutts99: the guide worked fine, perforance is snappier than ever now. thx!
[19:43] <estan> *performance.
[19:44] <coutts99> estan: good news! IMO jaunty should never have been released until this was ironed out, once I get the chance i'm changing distro again, maybe back to gentoo, or possibly sabayon
[19:45] <estan> coutts99: yea, i've been eyeballing arch. tried it on my dads laptop briefly. but i just don't have time to fiddle with changing distro right now.
[19:45] <coutts99> estan: same here, busy busy busy :)
[19:45] <estan> coutts99: just about to start gsoc, so don't want to wreak havoc on my laptop ;)
[19:46]  * estan back to homework with that trouble out of the way. bbl.
[19:56]  * coutts99 is off to watch the footy, ha'way the lads!
[19:59] <Virk> hi everyone
[20:00] <ubunturos> !hi | Virk
[20:00] <Virk> I just saw the announcement on the kubuntu homepage that kde4.3 beta 1 is now in the experimental repos
[20:01] <Virk> however, it seems that it is not :) No packeges to update here ...
[20:03] <SteBo> Virk: It seems the packages aren't really there...
[20:03]  * SteBo wonders about this too.
[20:03] <Virk> yeah, I thought so too, maybe the announcement is placed a bit too early?
[20:04] <SteBo> Virk: Looks like someone pressed a "publish" button a bit too early, yeah.
[20:05] <Virk> iic, it'll be for this week they said
[20:05] <mark____> The application Plasma Workspace (plasma) crashed and caused the signal 11 (SIGSEGV) ......... does any1 know what this means?
[20:06] <SteBo> mark____: Your desktop shell (the plasma process) crashed.
[20:06] <mark____> oh ok
[20:08] <SteBo> Virk: What does iic mean?
[20:08] <Virk> in every case
[20:08] <Virk> lol
[20:08] <Virk> haha, bad translation of a dutch abbreviation, which I thought was english as well :p
[20:09] <SteBo> lol :-) good thing, I asked. ;-)
[20:11] <SteBo> bye
[20:24] <not_guilty> hey all
[20:34] <canen> anyone having stablility issues with kmail?
[20:34] <canen> i've actually had to switch to thunderbird :(
[20:34] <canen> again
[20:44] <Pollywog> is kgpg in Jaunty broken?  all of a sudden it will not encrypt files
[20:44] <Pollywog> but I can encrypt on the command line
[20:46] <Pollywog> I should have stuck with KDE 3.5.x a little longer
[20:59] <ralmar> Hey guys Im having a really weird problem with Ekiga Softphone (voip application). Everytime I open it up and start a call the network resource monitor in the system monitor says that i start uploading like crazy (550+ KB/s), when I only have roughly 30 KB/s (max connection upload speed). And during this time of massive upload, my call does not get disconnected in the sense that the time keeps on running, but i lose audio on the call, it actually does stop
[20:59] <ralmar> and if i open firefox i cant go to any website, not even google.com will load. However when I close ekiga, the crazy uploading stops and i can browse the web again. What could this be? Thanks
[21:05] <picasso_> problem connecting with vpnc resolvconf: Error: /etc/resolv.conf must be a symlink,
[21:06] <picasso_> anybody has a fix for that, I cannot access my vpn'd sites (internal work network)
[21:12] <joe_> Dthacker...in Omaha?
[21:25]  * wirechief back.
[21:26] <robin0800> can't connect to wireless network in kubuntu (karmic) ubuntu (Karmic) works fine
[21:30] <Eismann> robin0800: it is an alpha version, is normal that it fails
[21:36] <zoiss> hi guys i got a problem with my kubuntu paketmanager. i tried to add a software source to install the new kde version and i only added the url ...and forgot the "deb" and the "jaunty main". since that the installer is damaged and it shows errors messegas in the update tab
[21:36] <zoiss> like "Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)"
[21:36] <zoiss> does anyone how to fix that?
[21:36] <zoiss> KPackageKit
[21:37] <JontheEchidna> can you go back to the software sources editor, or will it not let you do that?
[21:37] <zoiss> i can, yes
[21:38] <JontheEchidna> does it show the incorrect line?
[21:38] <zoiss> one moment pls
[21:38] <JontheEchidna> if not, you can run "kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list" and fix the line from a text editor
[21:39] <zoiss> ah there it is
[21:40] <zoiss> still not fixed
[21:42] <zoiss> shouldnt it ask for a password JontheEchidna ?
[21:43] <zoiss> oh i forgot to delete a further line ...now its working again
[21:43] <zoiss> thank you very much
[21:43] <JontheEchidna> :)
[21:44] <zoiss> did kdesudo already save password for my home account'?
[21:50] <lovre> does anyone know a channel i can ask about signal processing, DSP, analog to digital converters etc?
[21:51] <robinr> try http://searchirc.com/
[21:53]  * desu is on kde 4.3 beta1
[21:53] <desu> it's kinda nice, 'cept for the occasional quirks (which are to be expected from a beta)
[21:54] <xjjk> desu: how stable is it
[21:54] <desu> quite stable...
[21:54] <desu> working fine till now...
[21:54] <xjjk> brings up another question... is KDE 4.2.3 going to be available in jaunty-backports
[21:54] <desu> 'cept, one of the icons doesn't show up >_>
[21:55] <desu> 4.2.3 is already available for jaunty, iirc...
[21:55] <xjjk> as a PPA
[21:55] <xjjk> not in the main repositories
[21:55] <desu> xjjk: you mean like this one: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2.3 ?
[21:56] <xjjk> desu: not in A PPA...
[21:56] <lovre> robinr: ty
[21:57] <desu> xjjk: you mean in the main repositories?
[21:57] <desu> i have no idea...
[21:57] <xjjk> desu: yes, if it was going to be in the main repositories it'd be available in jaunty-backports or jaunty-updates
[21:57] <xjjk> since 4.2.3 is only bugfixes
[21:59] <maco> where can i enable horizontal scrolling in kubuntu?
[22:01] <lovre> i have this odd panel behaviour, i configure it to stay below all windows, but it still appears on top of everything when i get to left screen edge with my mouse. I want it to allways stay below, but that doesnt seem to configurable. any cure?
[22:03] <rmrfslash> Anyone usin KDE 4.3b1?
[22:10] <morice-net> please, I would like to add two things to pass from one desk to another : *first, when the cursor pass through the border of the desk *then, when you press ctrl + alt + -> or ctrl + alt + <- (like on ubuntu)
[22:10] <xjjk> morice-net: you need to set keybindings for that
[22:10] <morice-net> I have two lines of two desks (so 4 desks)... could someone help me ?
[22:11] <morice-net> xjjk: how can i do that ?
[22:11] <xjjk> morice-net: go into system settings, and then Keyboard & Mouse
[22:12] <xjjk> then Global Keyboard Shortcuts, then select the KWin component
[22:12] <xjjk> set a key binding for "Switch to Next Desktop" and "Switch to Previous Desktop"
[22:16] <morice-net> xjjk: thank you, the second is running really good :)
[22:16] <xjjk> morice-net: great
[22:16] <xjjk> morice-net: I've been meaning to file a bug with kde.org or kubuntu to make this default
[22:16] <xjjk> it used to be in KDE 3.5
[22:17] <morice-net> xjjk: ok... the default is good too : ctrl + f1 (or f2 f3 ...)
[22:17] <xjjk> morice-net: that's only for numbered desktops, not next/previous
[22:17] <morice-net> yes
[22:18] <morice-net> xjjk: and for the mouse ?
[22:20] <xjjk> morice-net: what about the mouse
[22:21] <morice-net> xjjk: change the desktop when the cursor pass through the border of the desk
[22:21] <morice-net> Another thing, I don't want to see things that are not on the active desktop bottom
[22:22] <morice-net> (between the KMenu and desks shower)
[22:22] <jamesjedimaster> over the background, use the scroll down/up
[22:23] <morice-net> jamesjedimaster: that's not what i need
[22:23] <morice-net> jamesjedimaster: but thznk you !
[22:23] <morice-net> s/thznk/thank
[22:23] <xjjk> morice-net: all of that is configurable...
[22:24] <morice-net> xjjk: that's what I would like to know how
[22:24] <xjjk> morice-net: hrm, not sure about moving to the next desktop
[22:24] <desu> rmrfslash: i am
[22:24] <desu> and it's running great
[22:24] <desu> <3
[22:25] <xjjk> morice-net: you can set the settings for the task switching applet, somewhere
[22:25] <xjjk> not sure where
[22:26] <morice-net> xjjk: ok, i'll look at that
[22:26] <xjjk> morice-net: ah, click teh cashew
[22:26] <xjjk> then right click on the task manager, task manager settings
[22:26] <xjjk> there's a checkbox there for show only from the current desktop
[22:27] <morice-net> xjjk: ok, good
[22:28] <rmrfslash> desu: cool. production ready?
[22:28] <navetz_> hey guys, my digital camera takes about 60MB for a 45 second video, it is a mpg, is there anyway to convert this to something smaller without losing to much quality?
[22:29] <morice-net> xjjk: it's running good... thank you ! <3
[22:30] <desu> rmrfslash: not very, but sorta, yeah... there are a few quirks... like windows keep resizing (as in, ONLY the image of the window painted on the screen) randomly and some icons are missing...
[22:30] <desu> other than that, it's okay...
[22:30] <rmrfslash> desu: I might wait for a rc
[22:31] <desu> lol
[22:31] <rmrfslash> desu: I mean, sometimes I feel like kde 4.2.3 is still beta.... I can only imagine what is considered "beta"
[22:31] <desu> kde 4 itself is still in beta
[22:32] <rmrfslash> desu: they're marketing it as production
[22:33] <desu> microsoft has marketed windows as "production" for quite a long time, and nobody complained :P
[22:34] <morice-net> oxygen is really beautiful... I'm happy to be on KUbuntu !
[22:43] <Sevenhill> hi what is the channel for (k)ubuntu-devel ?
[22:43] <ign0ramus> yoyoyo
[22:45] <ign0ramus> Sevenhill, lol.  #kubuntu-devel
[22:45] <Sevenhill> ign0ramus: no i mean #ubuntu+1
[22:45] <Sevenhill> but i found it :)
[22:45] <ign0ramus> Sevenhill, ok. congrats :)
[22:48] <wizardslovak> so i just unstalled wine and i want to run traktor pro on it
[22:49] <wizardslovak> i did install it but when i want to run it it doesnt
[22:50] <donald_> say i wanted to install an mmo. how would i do so?
[22:50] <ign0ramus> wizardslovak, that app doesn't work with wine.  yet... http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=14789&iTestingId=34548
[22:51] <ign0ramus> donald_, i would google "ubuntu" "wine" "name_of_game"
[22:51] <ign0ramus> donald_, unless you want to install a native linux game... in which case, see here: http://www.linuxgames.com/
[22:52] <wizardslovak> damn
[22:52] <wizardslovak> so is there other software (linux native) i can use for DJ?
[22:52] <ign0ramus> wizardslovak, let me see...
[22:53] <wizardslovak> ;)
[22:53] <ign0ramus> wizardslovak, maybe http://www.mixxx.org/ ??
[22:54] <wizardslovak> rewiesz arent good tho
[22:55] <Zorael> How do I browse Quassel's logs? They seem to be stored in an sqlite database, and I sort of want to save a conversation I have logged to a file.
[22:55] <ign0ramus> wizardslovak, i've never used any dj software for linux... search around... mixxx is constantly being updated and bugfixed... worth trying out, no?
[22:56] <wizardslovak> ign0ramus: well good point , ill try it lol problem is i got free traktor pro and i cant use it lolz
[22:57] <donald_> nah im looking to install flyff
[22:57] <ign0ramus> Zorael, can you use python to dump logs?
[22:57] <ign0ramus> Zorael, or even more suitable for you, can you set quassel to keep plain-text logs in a user-defined location?
[22:58] <ign0ramus> donald_, not an option right now :( http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=3253
[22:58] <Virk> hi
[22:58] <Zorael> ign0ramus: I don't have the python knowhow, and quassel insofar seems to be very plain with little in terms of configuration
[22:58] <ign0ramus> Zorael, that's why i use Konversation :)
[22:58] <Virk> I just tried upgrading to kde4.3 with the experimental ppa
[22:58] <donald_> thats what im seeing
[22:58] <ign0ramus> Zorael, but you should be able to open up those sqlite logs
[22:59] <ign0ramus> Zorael, try here: http://bugs.quassel-irc.org/wiki/1/Quassel_Logging
[22:59] <Virk> now kdebase-runtime is broken and I don't feel lijke uninstalling everything and then installing it back again
[22:59] <Zorael> ign0ramus: That looks like just what I need, cheers. And yeah, once I have those logs extracted maybe then's a good time to switch back to Konversation :3
[23:00] <dabbler> Virk:  I am downloding 4.2.3 as we speak  :(
[23:00] <ign0ramus> Zorael, np. you should check out the kde4 port of konversation if youre interested... its on their site under 'svn'  ;)
[23:01] <ign0ramus> dabbler, no, 4.2.3 is ok... 4.3 is not ready
[23:01] <Zorael> ign0ramus: I think I have it on one of the ppas I use; 1.1.75+svn965785-0ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa1
[23:01] <dabbler> great :)
[23:01] <Zorael> ign0ramus: two of them even, likely kubuntu-experimentals and kubuntu-ppa/experimental or /updates
[23:02] <Virk> there's something wrong with there 4.3 packages I guess
[23:02] <ign0ramus> Zorael, could be.... if not, you can get it direct here: http://konversation.kde.org/wiki/SVN
[23:02] <Zorael> ign0ramus: all right, thanks, will do¨
[23:02] <Zorael> ~*
[23:02] <Virk> installing kde-runtime-data complains about wanting to overwrite a file /usr/share/kde4/apps/kstyle/themes/oxygen.themerc', which is also in package kde-icons-oxygen
[23:02] <Zorael> Virk: Yeah, I had to install that one with --force-overwrite
[23:03] <rmrfslash> when the heck will a new fglrx com out?
[23:03] <rmrfslash> Jaunty has been out for-frickin'-ever
[23:04] <Zorael> ign0ramus: The dump script did the trick, many thanks. :3
[23:05] <ign0ramus> Zorael, np man.  how i dislike quassel!
[23:06] <Virk> Zorael: where do I put this forece overwrite? neither apt-get or aptitude recognise it..
[23:07] <Zorael> Virk: dpkg -i --force-overwrite <deb>
[23:07] <desu> ooo seems like i'm not the only one getting problems installing 4.3
[23:08] <Virk> Zorael: thanks
[23:08] <Zorael> Virk: The .deb itself should be in your /var/cache/apt/archives/
[23:08] <Virk> jep, figured that out :)
[23:08] <Zorael> :>
[23:08] <ign0ramus> desu, as i'm sure you know, 4.3 should be used for testing/developing only at this stage
[23:09]  * desu knows :3
[23:09] <desu> but it's pretty nice ^__^
[23:09] <white_pelican> where do I get help with kde 4.3 beta 1 for Jaunty?
[23:09] <desu> 'cept for the problem with some icons :/
[23:09] <desu> white_pelican: here, i suppose
[23:09] <ign0ramus> desu, everyone's been saying that... even with the default oxygen ones O_o
[23:09]  * desu nods
[23:10] <white_pelican> I just tried to upgrade from 4.2.3 to 4.3 beta 1
[23:10] <white_pelican> in Jaunty
[23:10] <white_pelican> I added the required repository to sources.list
[23:10] <white_pelican> then did apt-get update
[23:10] <desu> speaking of which, time to update the topic, maybe...?
[23:10] <white_pelican> the dist-upgrade
[23:10] <desu> "For KDE 4.3 repositories: Patience, we are working on it, check http://www.kubuntu.org for announcements"
[23:11] <white_pelican> I was in the middle of the upgrade and it bombed
[23:11] <desu> white_pelican: conflicting files?
[23:11] <white_pelican> yes desu
[23:12] <drbobb> hello, anyone tried the kde4.3 beta1? how's the experience?
[23:13] <white_pelican> we were just duscussing that
[23:13] <desu> white_pelican: for each package that conflicts, do `dpkg -i --force-overwrite <package>' and then do `apt-get -f install; apt-get dist-upgrade'... lather, rinse and repeat until there are no conflicts
[23:13] <white_pelican> lol
[23:13] <drbobb> aww I'm late then. What's the exec summary?
[23:13] <Virk> jep, just finished that myself :)
[23:14] <desu> drbobb: <3, 'cept for some icons...
[23:14] <drbobb> whassa matter with the icons?
[23:14] <Zorael> Small note, aptitude is better at resolving dependencies, so while it can't handle the --force-overwriting, it *can* do a better job than apt at getting mutual dependencies fixed without having to apt-get install -f over and over again
[23:14] <desu> _some_ icons show up as the "?" icons
[23:14] <Virk> I also had a conflict in /etc/kde4/kdm/kdmrc
[23:15]  * Zorael loves then new krunner
[23:15] <drbobb> oh, and does that depend on the icon theme?
[23:15] <Virk> Zorael: I tried aptitude, but it said that there were more issues than it can handle
[23:15] <mathieu___> hi
[23:16] <ign0ramus> haha! 2.6.30-rc6 came out today :)
[23:16] <NamShub> i have problems connecting to my wireless network: the network widget crashes plasma anyone aware of a workaround?
[23:16] <sere> can someone help...i made a script to encode a movie with mencoder w/ rox but i would like the output the be the sources name ....any ideas?
[23:17] <Zorael> Virk: ouch. :3
[23:17] <Zorael> Virk: It can't fix the overwriting part, you have to do that yourself
[23:19] <ign0ramus> NamShub, install wicd?
[23:19] <NamShub> ign0ramus: just upgraded to jaunty, it worked before but ill try this
[23:20] <SteBo> Hey, what's up with the latetest announcement on kubuntu.org? Any news on the KDE 4.3 Beta 1 packages?
[23:20] <ign0ramus> NamShub, it's not exactly a 'fix', but people are constantly having problems with network manager and the widget... wicd seems to 'just work' for most
[23:20] <SteBo> They do not seem to be in the given repository.
[23:20] <Unksi> SteBo: theres a repo mentioned at the website
[23:20] <wizardslovak> will virtualdj run on wine?
[23:21] <Zorael> SteBo: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa
[23:21] <white_pelican> ty desu crisis averted for now
[23:21] <white_pelican> it's resumed
[23:21] <Zorael> um, wrong one
[23:21] <desu> <3
[23:21] <sere> anyone have any scripting knowledge
[23:21] <desu> sere: i do
[23:21] <SteBo> Unksi: When I add it to my sources.list and do an sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade no updated packages are offered.
[23:21] <Zorael> SteBo: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/experimental
[23:22] <desu> sere: but please state your entire question, so that others may also be able to help you
[23:22] <Unksi> yeah that latter one is right
[23:22] <sere> desu i made a script to encode a movie with mencoder w/ rox but i would like the output the be the sources name ....any ideas?
[23:22] <kaddi> evening :)
[23:22] <wizardslovak> damn my audo doesnt work
[23:22] <sere> desu: im sure its not the hard just not sure how to :/
[23:22] <wizardslovak> with amarok
[23:22] <wizardslovak> is there command to upgade driver?
[23:22] <desu> "output to be the sources name"... can you elaborate a bit?
[23:23] <white_pelican> I spoke too soon, Desu
[23:23] <sere> desu: sure ill paste it
[23:23] <white_pelican> there are more errors than I can shake a stick at
[23:23] <desu> white_pelican: lol, lather, rinse and repeat
[23:23] <ign0ramus> wizardslovak, https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+question/67045
[23:23] <Virk> ok guys, works like a charm here :)
[23:24] <SteBo> ah, alright, they fixed the sources.list line.
[23:24] <SteBo> a few hours ago it was different. With the corrected line, I see the fresh packages. :-)
[23:24]  * SteBo is happy.
[23:24] <sere> desu: http://paste.ubuntu.com/175232/ ...this encodes a video to movie.mpg i would like it to encode it to the sources file name
[23:26] <sere> desu: or possible enode to to movie1.mpg, movie2.mpg so i could enode multiple movies at once
[23:26] <wizardslovak> problem is if i wantch movies audio works
[23:26] <desu> sere: are you only going to pass input files as parameters?
[23:27] <desu> or are you going to pass some other params to mencoder?
[23:27] <sere> desu: sorry not sure what you mean...not good that this stuff :/
[23:28] <desu> sere: are you going to pass special parameters to mencoder?
[23:29] <sere> desu: just whats in the script thats it
[23:30] <desu> hmm...
[23:30] <desu> then you can easily do a for x in $@ or something
[23:30] <Virk> that separate dashboard is awesome :)
[23:31] <sere> desu:  do u mean like -output "$@"
[23:32] <desu> sere: no, i mean, for x in $@; do foo -o $i.foo $i; done
[23:32] <desu> where "foo" is your command
[23:32] <desu> without the -o /media/d/movie.mpg "$@"
[23:32] <sere> hmm
[23:33] <bruce_> hell is anyoneout there. I've never used one of these things before
[23:34] <sere> desu, like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/175240/
[23:34] <desu> bruce_: no... we're all in heaven :P
[23:34] <desu> sere: uh... no.
[23:34] <bruce_> does anyone know why kate keeps crashing?
[23:35] <sere> desu: :/ sorry not quite sure how to put it all together
[23:36] <desu> sere: http://paste.ubuntu.com/175243/
[23:36] <desu> sere: output will be saved to <inputfile>.done
[23:37] <sere> desu. thank you very much....is this called scripting .. i would like to learn more
[23:37] <white_pelican> thanks to my impatience, looks like I broke kde 4 on my machine
[23:37] <white_pelican> oh well live and learn
[23:38] <desu> sere: you might wanna try #bash :)
[23:38] <desu> white_pelican: O_o
[23:38] <desu> broke?
[23:38] <desu> what exactly do you mean?
[23:38] <white_pelican> there are errors out the wazoo
[23:38] <bruce_> white pelican I broke ubuntu studio so bad I had to reinstall it.
[23:38] <sere> desu: cool ill do some studying later..thanks again
[23:39] <wizardslovak> ok now my audio doesnt work at alll
[23:40] <desu> white_pelican: what errors are you getting, exactly?
[23:40] <desu> white_pelican: still conflicts?
[23:41] <white_pelican> yes
[23:41] <white_pelican> conflicts on top of conflicts
[23:41] <sere> desu: ./new: line 9: syntax error: unexpected end of file...im afraid it didnt work :/
[23:41] <white_pelican> perhaps I was too impatient or it should have been fully tested before being placed on the web site as available
[23:42] <desu> sere: add a "done" at the end
[23:42] <desu> white_pelican: both :P
[23:42] <desu> white_pelican: lather, rinse, repeat
[23:42] <desu> white_pelican: dpkg -i --force-overwrite <package>
[23:43] <desu> white_pelican: that's how i got mine working :P
[23:43] <white_pelican> how long did it take you?
[23:43] <sere> desu : -o "$x".done $x done...still gives me same error
[23:43] <desu> ....
[23:44] <desu> sere: ;done
[23:44] <desu> white_pelican: ~5-10 minutes
[23:44] <desu> sere:  -o "$x".done $x; done
[23:44] <white_pelican> ok I will keep trying
[23:44] <sere> desu: i love u
[23:45] <sere> desu: ty :)
[23:45] <desu> sere: you're welcome :)
[23:45] <desu> white_pelican: good luck~~!
[23:46] <white_pelican> I might just have to reinstall everything
[23:47] <white_pelican> unless there is an easy way to uninstall kde 4
[23:51] <Zorael> white_pelican: I could give it a try over a vnc session, if we could somehow set one up
[23:52] <bruce_> white pelican do you know how to install kde from the command line?
[23:52] <white_pelican> no bruce_ I don't
[23:53] <desu> white_pelican: D:
[23:53] <[mors]> hello, I upgraded to kernel 2.6.28 and now kde is always using the xtreme pwersave profile, because I have my laptop baterry off, but also my ac power cable. Strangelly, the battery tray icon is telling my that my ac power cable is plugged off, hence xtreme powersave.
[23:53] <desu> white_pelican: paste errors on rafb.net/paste, please?
[23:54] <white_pelican> ok let me compile a list
[23:54] <bruce_> ok, you could try using kpackagekit to uninstall and reinstall kubuntu-desktop. that might help. I have kubuntu and I installed Gnome into it. I didn't install ubuntu into kubuntu I installed Gnome into kubuntu.
[23:54] <silentstri16> is it possible to take a databse backup file from windows MySql and put it on the kubuntu MySql?
[23:57] <bruce_> Try using kpackagekit to uninstall kubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-default-settings and then reinstall them without rebooting your computer.
[23:59] <white_pelican> desu, it's OK now
[23:59] <white_pelican> I followed your instructions
[23:59] <white_pelican> what a PITA
[23:59] <desu> lol
[23:59] <desu> but 4.3 is <3