[00:00] <fta> do you still have the command you typed?
[00:00] <gnomefreak> fta: i should
[00:00] <gnomefreak> tar -zcvf back-up.2009.17.05.tar.gz back-up.2009.17.05
[00:00] <fta> should work
[00:01] <gnomefreak> i know that is where the problem is :)
[00:01] <fta> does 'file back-up.2009.17.05.tar.gz' say it's a gzip compressed data?
[00:01] <micahg> see if: tar -jcvf back-up.2009.17.05.tar.bz2 back-up.2009.17.05 is any better
[00:02] <gnomefreak> fithe file is not a gz opening properties says it is a file
[00:02] <gnomefreak> folder (inode/directory)
[00:02] <fta> ?
[00:02] <gnomefreak> 1,521 items, totalling 4.1 GB
[00:03] <gnomefreak> back-up.2009.17.05.tar.gz: gzip compressed data, from Unix, last modified: Sun May 17 13:25:58 2009
[00:03] <fta> hm
[00:03] <gnomefreak> trying bz2
[00:03] <gnomefreak> may be a while
[00:03] <fta> indeed
[00:04] <gnomefreak> linux used to keep folder/file siz even when files are removed. AFAIK that is no longer
[00:05]  * BUGabundo1 goes to bed
[00:07] <gnomefreak> night BUGabundo1
[00:08] <gnomefreak> i hate the idea of trying a backup app since it shouldnt be needed
[00:08] <gnomefreak> looking for one just in case
[00:09] <fta> deja-dup
[00:10] <gnomefreak> Description: Backup utility D
[00:10] <gnomefreak> are you kidding
[00:10] <gnomefreak> that is the whole description
[00:11] <fta> http://mterry.name/deja-dup/#screenshots
[00:11] <gnomefreak> i will look at it in a few i going to install a few to try
[00:11] <fta> https://edge.launchpad.net/deja-dup
[00:12] <fta> it's in universe
[00:13] <gnomefreak> i saw that with show. im pretty much locked up atm trying to open
[00:19] <micahg> are the open file and upload boxes governed by the same rules?
[00:29] <micahg> bug 279193, should that be redirected to the firefox gnome support package?
[00:29] <gnomefreak> ive seen that bug before a while ago
[00:31] <gnomefreak> micahg: i think it should be gnome-support but look for a duplicate unless we closed it it should still be out there
[00:31] <micahg> ah, in LP, it's all under FF3 apparently
[00:31] <gnomefreak> micahg: make sure ither browsers are tested like eiphany-webkit
[00:32] <gnomefreak> im not confident it is strictly firefox
[00:32] <micahg> ok
[00:33] <micahg> gnomefreak: there seem to be a couple for opening smb links
[00:34] <micahg> I can't find one like this
[00:34] <gnomefreak> as i recall the problem was related to gvfs but it was a while since i saw it
[00:34] <micahg> there's also one for saving files
[00:34] <micahg> this one's for uplaods
[00:34] <gnomefreak> micahg: bug 231221
[00:35] <gnomefreak> that close to the same?
[00:35] <micahg> yep, saw that
[00:35] <micahg> no, I think this is different
[00:36] <micahg> User says in that bug that upload fails but can see the share
[00:36] <gnomefreak> ok just making sure
[00:36] <micahg> current bug can't see the share
[00:36] <gnomefreak> fta: would that be xulrunner bug?
[00:37] <gnomefreak> i dont play with gvfs and have no plans to
[00:37] <gnomefreak> ill be back time for a smoke
[00:42]  * gnomefreak wonders if i removed SM2 tarballs
[00:42] <gnomefreak> micahg: have it tested on epiphany-gecko epiphany-webkit and can you do that with nautilus alone?
[00:43] <gnomefreak> yep i removed them
[00:44] <gnomefreak> fta: i just firefox and xulrunner daily updates did tbird not build yet?
[00:44] <fta> gnomefreak, all green: https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa
[00:44] <fta> going to bed, i'm tired
[00:45] <micahg> gnomefreak: I don't even see an epiphany-webkit
[00:45] <gnomefreak> fta: night
[00:45] <gnomefreak> micahg: i am fairy sure that is name but let me check
[00:45] <micahg> I asked the user to try in epiphany
[00:46] <gnomefreak> hm
[00:47] <micahg> gnomefreak: here's why
[00:47] <micahg> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=epiphany-webkit
[00:47] <gnomefreak> Depends: epiphany-gecko | epiphany-webkit
[00:47] <micahg> it only existed in intrepid
[00:47] <gnomefreak> if it depends on it we have it
[00:47] <gnomefreak> micahg: right
[00:47] <micahg> not necessarily
[00:47] <micahg> it still depends on it in jaunty
[00:47] <micahg> but it's an or
[00:47] <gnomefreak> micahg: i have it installed or at least did
[00:47] <micahg> and we don't have the second option
[00:48] <gnomefreak> yeah i know what | is
[00:48] <micahg> :)
[00:48] <kmkz> recently installed Ubuntu 9.04, one of the features that I can find in my firefox is the middle CLICK drag/scroll (the one that kinda creates a small circular up and down arrow), middle click once and move mouse to scroll... any suggestions ?
[00:48] <micahg> of course
[00:48] <gnomefreak> un  epiphany-webki <none>         (no description available)
[00:48] <gnomefreak> dpkg -l epiphany* shows it
[00:49] <micahg> ah
[00:49] <micahg> gnomefreak: could bug 153716 be the original?  or is it too old?
[00:49] <gnomefreak> this mornings tbird update was latest firefox xulrunner did another update i guess
[00:50] <gnomefreak> micahg: looking
[00:50] <micahg> I read something about gnome moving from gnome vfs to GIO
[00:50] <micahg> you would know more
[00:51] <micahg> as I use xubuntu :)
[00:51] <gnomefreak> lets make sure that bug is still valid first change to -3.0 and find out if valid
[00:51] <micahg> Xfce is also moving
[00:51] <micahg> gnomefreak: that bug only has FF2 listed
[00:51] <gnomefreak> but yes im thinking they are related
[00:51] <micahg> shouldn't I check if they upgraded before moving?
[00:52] <micahg> and should I remove mozillateam froma ssignee?
[00:52] <gnomefreak> i did it :)
[00:52] <gnomefreak> oops forgot that but just did it
[00:53] <micahg> When was the last time new FF3 bugs was under 600?
[00:54] <gnomefreak> ah tbird == 2009-05-15 where as firefox xul are the 17th
[00:54] <micahg> gnomefreak: are you subscribing to that old gnomevfs bug or do you want me to follow up?
[00:54] <gnomefreak> micahg: i dont remember i try to get to ff2 bugs more than 3.0 when i have my bug days
[00:54] <micahg> ah
[00:54] <gnomefreak> micahg: i get all firefox bugs
[00:55] <micahg> ah
[00:55] <gnomefreak> all mozilla bugs
[00:55] <micahg> ah
[00:55] <micahg> right
[00:55] <gnomefreak> that is the perks of owning a team :(
[00:55] <micahg> you own the team?
[00:55] <gnomefreak> micahg: yes
[00:55] <micahg> can I become a member?
[00:56] <micahg> do I want to become a member? :)
[00:57] <gnomefreak> micahg: its not all that important to be a member other than to upload to MT PPA. ask me again if im here tomorrow and either i will ping asac or you can and we will talk about it. I have seen you do a crap load of bugs so i have no objections
[00:58]  * gnomefreak tries not to look at every bug since i get 200-300 bugs a day normaly
[00:58] <micahg> ok, well I'm not ready to upload yet, so maybe I'll hold off
[00:58] <micahg> and I joined Ubuntu-MozillaSquad
[00:58] <gnomefreak> micahg: thats pretty much the perk of being a member.
[00:59] <gnomefreak> micahg: good that would be the one we look at for contributions
[00:59] <micahg> ok
[00:59] <micahg> can you look at a private crash report for me gnomefreak
[00:59] <micahg> original bug 369552
[00:59] <micahg> last comment has private bug #
[01:00] <gnomefreak> k
[01:03] <gnomefreak> its public and the other is marked as a dup
[01:04] <gnomefreak> sorry took so long people use !ops for no reason :(
[01:04] <micahg> anything private in there?
[01:04] <gnomefreak> i didnt see anything
[01:05] <gnomefreak> if you find something i midded let me know
[01:07] <micahg> gnomefreak: and reasone why the thread trace would show glibc 2.3.2?
[01:07] <micahg> on Jaunty?
[01:08] <gnomefreak> !info glibc
[01:08] <micahg> !info libc6
[01:09] <micahg> gnomefreak: I don't know how to really read this stuff yet
[01:09] <micahg> but the ProcMaps show the proper libc lib
[01:10] <micahg> but the thread trace shows this
[01:10] <micahg> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/26857057/ThreadStacktrace.txt
[01:10] <micahg> #1  0xb803c412 in pthread_cond_timedwait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 ()    from /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libpthread.so.0
[01:10] <gnomefreak> it should be right
[01:11] <gnomefreak> this looks like a xul crash but asac is the master crash guy :)
[01:13] <gnomefreak> that is i dont think it is libc bug
[01:14] <gnomefreak> ok asked for some helpful info to start with
[01:16] <gnomefreak> libc6 2.9-4ubuntu6
[01:16] <micahg> well, I found that he;s using adobe's flash plugin
[01:16] <micahg> packge
[01:16] <gnomefreak> that is from http://launchpadlibrarian.net/26857050/Dependencies.txt
[01:16] <micahg> not ours
[01:16] <gnomefreak> micahg: 64bit or 32 bit?
[01:16] <micahg> he';s on 32 bit
[01:16] <micahg> I read it in the stacktracee
[01:17] <micahg> it's in /usr/lib/adobe-flashplugin/
[01:17] <gnomefreak> flash isnt the cause of the crash or we wouldnt get any useful crash info
[01:17] <micahg> right, but it might be conflicting
[01:18] <micahg> it might be the monkey wrence
[01:19] <gnomefreak> micahg: ask him to post his about:plugins  he can print to file and push file to bug
[01:19] <micahg> don;'t we have an apport hook for that?
[01:19] <gnomefreak> micahg: i thought it was automatic but its not there
[01:20] <gnomefreak> to call it himself there might be but im not up on my apport
[01:21] <gnomefreak> i think the compression doesnt want to continue :(
[01:21] <micahg> bz2 takes a long time
[01:21] <gnomefreak> it stopped at one point and has been there for well over 10 minutes
[01:21] <gnomefreak> re running it
[01:22] <micahg> could you have a recusive symlink somewhere?
[01:22] <micahg> *recursive
[01:22] <gnomefreak> no
[01:22] <micahg> bug 303269, should that be Wishlist -> Traiged?
[01:23] <gnomefreak> it stopped on muisic so i can guess why
[01:23] <micahg> ah
[01:23] <gnomefreak> crap
[01:23] <gnomefreak> micahg: let me look at that
[01:24] <gnomefreak> i hate the workds closer almost the same ect...
[01:26] <gnomefreak> that upstream bug needs to be confirmed on linux as well as windows or the user needs to file his own
[01:26] <gnomefreak> windows/linux dont act the same (fairly sure that goes for lang as well
[01:27] <micahg> gnomefreak: It's marked as all as well as Win XP
[01:28] <gnomefreak> that shouldnt be like that :( ther should be a , or something betwen them
[01:29] <gnomefreak> to me all windows xp means 64 32 pro home ect.... but i guess you are right
[01:30] <gnomefreak> i would like a comment saying linux or mac all at this time are windows or not mentioned
[01:30] <gnomefreak> and if this was blocking 2.0 than an updated bug would be great
[01:30] <gnomefreak> nevermind
[01:31] <micahg> no more work on 2.0 :)
[01:31] <gnomefreak> thank god
[01:31] <gnomefreak> brb g/f
[02:19] <dtchen> fta: what audio parameters is sauerbraten configured to use vice openarena?
[02:20] <dtchen> fta: they both seem SDL-based from a cursory glance
[03:13] <micahg> Is there a javascript expert in here?
[03:25] <micahg> should bug 318361 be merged into 272010
[03:25] <micahg> oops
[03:25] <micahg> bug 272010
[03:25] <micahg> ^^^ doesn't have any flash mention in it
[03:25] <micahg> but it seems generic
[11:00] <asac> stefanlsd: hi
[11:00] <stefanlsd> asac: heys :)
[11:01] <asac> stefanlsd: so could we use system png/jpeg as well?
[11:01] <asac> stefanlsd: also ... i think a better approach (easier to maintain or even upstream) for system gecko would be to
[11:01] <asac> create links for the gecko_sdk/ hierachy
[11:02] <stefanlsd> asac: i spend like pretty much the whole of yesterday trying - all those combinations. doesnt work with system png / jpeg
[11:02] <stefanlsd> asac: with system png, jpeg. it builds and installs, but doesnt actually work
[11:03] <stefanlsd> asac: how do u mean with the links...
[11:03] <asac> stefanlsd: http://paste.ubuntu.com/174823/
[11:04] <asac> that was an experimentish thing
[11:04] <asac> http://paste.ubuntu.com/174824/
[11:04] <asac> also that part i think
[11:05] <asac> stefanlsd: ok so for gecko:
[11:05] <asac> stefanlsd: what they currently do is to create a hierarchy with $(GECKO_SDK)/gecko_sdk/...
[11:06] <asac> in the build tree
[11:06] <asac> if we could - instead of copying/linking the sdk from third_party just link to the system one that would be better i guess
[11:07] <asac> idea would be that we dont ened to touch all the in #includes which probably is a pain to maintain in the long run
[11:07] <asac> stefanlsd: how didnt he system png/jpeg thing fail/not work?
[11:07] <asac> did it crash?
[11:08] <stefanlsd> asac: no crash. just clicking on gears settings in the menu doesnt display the menu, and using google offline mail says gears is not installed...
[11:08] <asac> stefanlsd: do you see anything on the console where you start firefox?
[11:09] <stefanlsd> asac: ok, will have a look at the copying/linking
[11:09] <stefanlsd> asac: dont think so, need to double check
[11:12] <asac> stefanlsd: or maybe there is something in tools -> error console
[11:12] <stefanlsd> asac: kk. check that again
[11:13] <asac> stefanlsd: great. thanks a lot for working on gears ;)
[11:13] <stefanlsd> asac: hehe. np. its been a nightmare :)
[11:14] <BUGabundo> ehehe
[11:14] <asac> nightmare is negative ... challenge is better ;)
[11:14] <BUGabundo> like managing NM, right asac?
[11:14] <asac> nah ... thats fun ;)
[11:15] <asac> (if there werent so many bugs i cannot follow up as much as i like)
[11:23] <BUGabundo> asac: can you help jagadeesh?
[11:23] <BUGabundo> he is requesting help configuring a Globespan modem
[11:23] <jagadeesh> yes
[11:23] <jagadeesh> Thanks BUGabundo
[11:23] <BUGabundo> np
[11:24] <BUGabundo> and now we wait eheh
[11:24] <jagadeesh> actually I am using D-Link's GLB-802C ADSL Router.
[11:24] <BUGabundo> asac as just here 10 min ago...
[11:24] <BUGabundo> so your problem is with the usb dongle right?
[11:25] <BUGabundo> have you tried to debug it according to the wiki?
[11:25] <jagadeesh> pointer to wiki please
[11:25] <BUGabundo> trying to find it myself
[11:25] <BUGabundo>  !networkmanager
[11:26] <jagadeesh> ok
[11:26] <jagadeesh> am connecting modem via USB
[11:26] <BUGabundo> jagadeesh: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingNetworkManager
[11:26] <BUGabundo> humm
[11:26] <BUGabundo> I got this wrong
[11:27] <BUGabundo> so you are trying to connect to the adsl modem directly via usb?
[11:27] <BUGabundo> its not wifi ?
[11:27] <jagadeesh> no
[11:27] <jagadeesh> yes I am connectiing modem via USB
[11:28] <BUGabundo> ok
[11:28] <BUGabundo> lets see if asac can help you out
[11:28] <BUGabundo> brb
[11:28] <jagadeesh> ok
[11:28] <jagadeesh> thanks
[11:32] <asac> hmm he is gone
[11:37] <BUGabundo> seems so
[11:38] <BUGabundo> I could memoserv him
[11:41] <asac> well .. if he shows up again tell him to not leave after 5 minutes ;)
[11:46] <BUGabundo> will do
[11:47] <BUGabundo> asac: then again I may have left to go try to debug and make it work
[12:51]  * asac lunch
[13:36] <fta2> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/chromium-browser   funny :)
[13:37] <jcastro> hi fta2
[13:37] <jcastro> what's going on in chromium land?
[13:54] <fta2> the "funny" thing was the "last modified" tiny graph
[14:17] <fta2> debian bug 522630
[14:47] <gnomefreak> asac: bug 376715  is that even worth it?
[14:48] <asac> gnomefreak: i think moz-traybiff is available as an extension?
[14:49] <asac> hunderbird-traybiff - traybiff - new mail alert for thunderbird
[14:49] <gnomefreak> i think so let me check
[14:49] <asac> thunderbird-traybiff - traybiff - new mail alert for thunderbird
[14:49] <asac> could be that it doesnt prevent tbird from closing if used, if so reassign the bug
[14:49] <gnomefreak> if that is new mail alert than not what he wants
[14:50]  * gnomefreak doesnt get it. he doesnt want it to close than he shouldnt close it
[14:50] <gnomefreak> let me ask a few things
[14:52] <asac> gnomefreak: he wants that ttbird doesnt shut down if you close it
[14:52] <asac> instead only the newmail notification icon should stay there from what i understand
[14:52] <asac> like pidgin and other apps that live in the tray
[14:52] <gnomefreak> asac: yeah well guess what it should chut down if you shut it down
[14:53] <gnomefreak> that is what he wants but i have a feeling that tbird is going to use a good amount of mem/proc to do that.
[14:53] <gnomefreak> we cant do this for tbird2 anyway in hardy
[14:55] <asac> yeah
[14:55] <asac> tell him to look at traybiff
[14:55] <gnomefreak> tofix the bug make a panel launcher (same result as clicking on the applet. except that maybe its faster since it is always checking email. I know here i cant have that happen and im sure others cant as well. it would lag way too much and i get way too many emails to make it worth it
[14:56] <asac> and if that doesnt work as expected traybiff is probably the right place to fix/file this
[14:56] <gnomefreak> ok
[15:01] <gnomefreak> done
[15:08] <gnomefreak> asac: speaking of the above. mozilla 477757 however it seems to be an addon to the bug when it should be its own bug
[15:12] <asac> gnomefreak: not sure. ask him if he still sees the problem with tbird 3 to be sure
[15:12] <asac> from what i understood the users didnt want shredder to close at all
[15:14] <gnomefreak> i dont want firefox to crash but it happens
[15:15] <gnomefreak> looks like different users
[15:16] <gnomefreak> asked him if its the same so lets see what he says
[15:26]  * gnomefreak smoke
[15:41]  * asac out to run some errands
[15:54] <gnomefreak> ok now i can o smoke
[16:20] <fta2> jcastro, about barcelona, do you know if it is possible to buy a weekly ticket/pass for the metro/tram? and if it's worth it.
[16:21] <jcastro> fta2: I don't know, however on the /UDS page there is a link to the loco guys from the catalan team who probably know
[16:21] <jcastro> fta2: jpds is local and he's in a bunch of ubuntu channels, he might now
[16:22] <jcastro> fta2: I am heading to barcelona today, as we find out things like that we'll update the /UDS pages
[16:22] <fta2> jcastro, great, thanks
[16:44]  * gnomefreak will be in and out today. I'm taking the day to cook at least for most of it
[16:44] <gnomefreak> rest of time its the tarball issue
[17:02] <micahg> asac: do I need to do something to join bug control?
[17:02] <gnomefreak> micahg: i sent a email to list for him since he is gone
[17:02] <micahg> ah
[17:02] <micahg> ok
[17:02] <micahg> gnomefreak: how's your tarball?
[17:03] <gnomefreak> micahg: still woprking on it :)
[17:03] <micahg> ah
[17:03] <micahg> it's amazing how much a new profile helps people
[17:03] <gnomefreak> im goigng to be in and out today
[17:04] <micahg> they figure out their extensions are messed up
[17:04] <gnomefreak> micahg: people screw thiers up by either running sudo package or crap from mozilla addons or any other extensions
[17:05] <gnomefreak> i got one person that refuses to try a new orofile so see what i can do outside of that but im 95% sure it is profile related
[17:05] <gnomefreak> ok be back
[17:06] <micahg> what's the deal with backporting extensions to older versions of ubuntu?
[17:13] <gnomefreak> depends on what bugs are filed for it. How much testing has been done (will be done once in PPA) and who feels like working on it. and some other things that i can no tthink of atm
[17:14]  * gnomefreak is against any extensions mozilla releated apps being backported for Hardy
[17:16] <gnomefreak> micahg: if you can email me a list of them i can at least set them in my PPA. since they change so often backporting them are kind of bad/too much work. ok back to stove
[17:18] <micahg> well, for example, bug 377392 had a problem with Ad Block Plus
[17:18] <micahg> but it's packaged in ubuntu
[17:18] <micahg> and the user is running the packaged version AFAIK
[17:19] <micahg> gnomefreak: actually, can we chat later tonight?  just let me know when is good
[17:19] <micahg> I have to go to work
[17:19] <micahg> and won't be avaialble for much
[17:22] <fta2> jcastro, i have my answer: http://www.barcelona-tourist-guide.com/en/transport/barcelona-metro.html  the T10 is better than 10 one way tickets, and the Barcelona Card is too expensive and limited to 5 days. I'll go for 1 or 2 T10.
[17:36] <gnomefreak> adblock+ has way too many bugs to even think about backporting
[17:37] <micahg> ok, is there a time later tonight I can chat with you gnomefreak?
[17:38] <gnomefreak> micahg: i dont know but you can always email me if im not here at gnomefreak at ubuntu dot com
[17:38] <micahg> ok
[17:38] <micahg> any plans to backport ubufox?
[17:38] <gnomefreak> micahg: that is asac's baby :)
[17:38] <micahg> ok
[17:39] <micahg> I'll ask him
[17:39] <micahg> bug 374398
[17:39] <micahg> not sure what to do as user is having problems in other apps
[17:39] <micahg> move to compiz?
[17:40] <gnomefreak> most likely but give me a minute
[17:41] <gnomefreak> ask if it happens without compiz if it doesnt move to compiz or even search our firefox bugs with compiz there are a few
[17:41] <gnomefreak> ok gone
[17:42] <micahg> gone?
[17:59] <gnomefreak> taking care of other things today cooking cleaning dogs hair and other shit g/f wants me to do
[18:00] <micahg> ah
[18:00] <micahg> yes
[18:00] <micahg> ok
[18:00] <micahg> off to work for me
[18:52] <asac> oh dear ... i hate travel preparations ;)
[18:52] <asac> actually i think i dislike travelling ;)
[19:47] <asac> micahg: hi
[19:47] <asac> anything you needed?
[19:48] <micahg> hi
[19:48] <micahg> I was wondering about bug control membership
[19:48] <micahg> if I need to do anything
[19:48] <micahg> asac: ^^^
[20:38] <asac> micahg: i dont know for sure, but i think not
[20:38] <asac> i will meet the right folks tomorrow, so we will probably just add you
[20:53] <mbana> anyone having problems rendering woflfram|aplha?
[20:56] <micahg> asac: cool, thanks
[21:02] <BUGabundo> guud evening
[21:02] <gnomefreak> asac: shouldnt you be leaving for UDS at end of week? it normaly starts on sun or mon
[21:04] <gnomefreak> ni BUGabundo
[21:06]  * gnomefreak really really hates aim
[21:08] <BUGabundo> gnomefreak: easy: don't use it ?
[21:08] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: try like hell not to but im looking for someone that needs a wack in the back of the head
[21:09] <micahg> gnomefreak: aim client or service?
[21:09] <gnomefreak> micahg: both i hate the sevice most
[21:10] <micahg> ah
[21:10] <gnomefreak> i can get along with pidgin
[21:10] <micahg> I prefer it to MSN or YIM
[21:10] <gnomefreak> i agree. be back
[21:12] <BUGabundo> I prefer XMPP
[21:12] <BUGabundo> its OPEN
[21:13] <asac> gnomefreak: no leaving tomorrow
[21:13] <asac> we have a company meeting up-front
[21:13] <asac> allhands
[21:13] <micahg> BUGabundo: XMPP is great if you have people on that network, or you run your own
[21:14] <asac> i ignore folks on other networks ;)
[21:14] <micahg> asac: did you hear about the hugday for FF?
[21:14] <asac> yeah
[21:15] <asac> ill be at this company event, but i hope i can be on at least half of the day
[21:17] <micahg> I'll try to watch the bugs channel on thursday
[21:17] <BUGabundo> micahg: XMPP is federated!
[21:17] <asac> thx
[21:17] <BUGabundo> no need to make islands
[21:17] <micahg> federated?
[21:17]  * BUGabundo asac only uses IRC and identica
[21:17] <BUGabundo> oh and mail
[21:24] <gnomefreak> asac: ah ok
[21:25]  * gnomefreak needs to find a bot for aim to log rooms
[21:27] <gnomefreak> asac: have a nice trip :)
[21:32] <gnomefreak> i am so glad i dont deal with these people for more than 2 days a year
[21:33] <BUGabundo> eheh
[21:41] <gnomefreak> my dvd writer is clicking at me :(
[21:42] <gnomefreak> i thought clicking == spinning but disk doesnt wan tto mount or burn or anything of the like
[21:43] <BUGabundo> fta_: .............................. ping
[21:43] <BUGabundo> FF still crashes on every open from another app
[21:43] <BUGabundo> how long more will this last?
[21:44] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: disable your 300 extensions
[21:44] <BUGabundo> 40 or less now
[21:44] <BUGabundo> I clean them
[21:44] <BUGabundo> made a new profile
[21:45] <BUGabundo> let me count them again
[21:45] <BUGabundo> I miss many a lot
[21:45] <BUGabundo> 25 now
[21:45] <BUGabundo> but its not that
[21:45] <BUGabundo> even on safemode it happens
[21:45] <gnomefreak> im neither sorry
[21:45] <gnomefreak> oops damn
[21:45] <BUGabundo> I have my syslog filed with those segfaults
[21:47] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: do you get a backtrace worth a damn?
[21:47] <BUGabundo> I have apport crashing on it
[21:48] <BUGabundo> and there are at least two old bugs from ff 3.1 on LP
[21:48] <gnomefreak> 3.5 3.6?
[21:48] <gnomefreak> oh
[21:48] <BUGabundo> I could send a new for 3.6
[21:48] <BUGabundo> but daily doesn't have gdb
[21:48] <gnomefreak> no you cant, apport doesnt know 3.6
[21:48] <BUGabundo> gnomefreak: please... do I look like I would use a stable version? you know me better then that
[21:48] <gnomefreak> file it with 3.1-3.5 and it will mark it as a dup if it has one
[21:49] <BUGabundo> it just did
[21:49] <gnomefreak> stabe/unstable doesnt matter its what the official repos think
[21:49] <BUGabundo> let me click on a link on pidgin and reproduce it
[21:49] <gnomefreak> oh god not that one
[21:50] <gnomefreak> IIRC it didnt cause crash it just didnt open link. ok good wrong one
[21:50] <BUGabundo> no no
[21:50] <BUGabundo> the link is opened
[21:50] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: give me a link or 2 i will see if i can crash 3.6
[21:50] <BUGabundo> but it just logs segfaults
[21:50] <BUGabundo> guess it losses the parent pid or something
[21:50] <BUGabundo> http://google.com ?
[21:50] <BUGabundo> not all clicks fire it
[21:50] <gnomefreak> oh that is too easy
[21:50] <BUGabundo> :(
[21:51]  * gnomefreak goes to try to make sure
[21:51] <BUGabundo> I could give you the shortest google link
[21:51] <BUGabundo> http://g.cn
[21:51] <BUGabundo> it happens once and then apport will not fire again for that app
[21:51] <gnomefreak> ok i mere what do i need to click on
[21:51] <BUGabundo> let me try from gwibber
[21:52] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: is it just when opening links posted? or can you get it to happen by typing in the link?
[21:52] <BUGabundo> yep
[21:52] <BUGabundo> firefox is brought to foreground
[21:52] <BUGabundo> links are opened
[21:52] <BUGabundo> but it logs a segfault
[21:53] <BUGabundo> and life goes on
[21:53] <fta> back
[21:53] <BUGabundo> May 17 15:45:08 blubug kernel: [ 8760.532786] firefox-3.6[31479]: segfault at 7f27ec1153e2 ip 00007f27efbf4f78 sp 00007fff1737e580 error 4 in libc-2.9.so[7f27efb7c000+168000]
[21:54] <BUGabundo> hey fta
[21:54] <BUGabundo> fta: discussing that 8 months old bug
[21:54] <BUGabundo> where FF segfaults when pressing on links on other apps
[21:54] <BUGabundo> remember?
[21:54] <gnomefreak> that is a kernel bug not firefox. I got same thing on shutdown with the jaunty kernelbefore proposed kernel
[21:54] <BUGabundo> I took the ignore from apport blacklist
[21:55] <BUGabundo> and now I get them again
[21:55] <gnomefreak> and the 8760.* changes every crash?
[21:55] <fta> BUGabundo, i created a bug upstream for that a long time ago, they ignored it :0
[21:56] <BUGabundo> I know fta
[21:56] <BUGabundo> I'm cc to it
[21:56] <BUGabundo> want another?
[21:56] <gnomefreak> bug number?
[21:56] <BUGabundo> pressing enter on FF awesome bar after a timeout
[21:56] <BUGabundo> does nothing
[21:56] <fta> hm, you're not
[21:57] <fta> mozilla bug 473629
[21:57] <BUGabundo> I need to hit the refresh icon :(
[21:57] <gnomefreak> thanks
[21:57]  * BUGabundo hates to use mouse
[21:57] <BUGabundo> fta maybe another ...
[21:57] <BUGabundo> heh
[21:58] <BUGabundo> I remember that text from somewhere
[22:00] <gnomefreak> how do i add myself to CC without typing a comment?
[22:00] <gnomefreak> the box is checked
[22:01] <fta> leave the text empty, don't touch anything except the Cc box, submit
[22:01] <gnomefreak> ok thanks
[22:01] <BUGabundo> so it aint a kernel bug, right?
[22:02] <fta> right
[22:02] <BUGabundo> why do logs say so then?
[22:02] <BUGabundo> gnomefreak: you are not used to use bugzilaa?
[22:02] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: it is more of a glibc bug by the comment on it since it is not touching jem....
[22:02] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: i am just little thing s like that i dont nomrally do
[22:15] <dkg0> hey folks-- i've been getting segfaults with icedove (i know: it's debian, not ubuntu), and i've captured a bunch of coredumps.  but the backtraces i get from the coredumps are useless.
[22:15] <dkg0> they have a couple lines only and don't show me much detail
[22:16] <dkg0> but i suspect there's something about the way the package uses threads that means i'm not pulling the right info.
[22:16] <dkg0> do you have suggestions i can use to get useful info out of the coredumps?
[22:17] <dkg0> i'm reluctant to post them raw because they probably contain confidential info (passphrases and correspondence at least)
[22:17] <dkg0> any suggestions welcome.
[22:17] <dkg0> example single-line bt from gdb:
[22:17] <dkg0> #0  0xb7f1e424 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
[22:17] <dkg0> but this is prefixed with a bunch of lines like
[22:18] <dkg0> [New process 4349]
[22:18] <dkg0> the only extensions i have installed are Enigmail and Toggle Word Wrap
[22:19]  * BUGabundo really likes to speak to him self
[22:19] <BUGabundo> me fail! :\
[22:20] <gnomefreak> dkg0: are you getting "no symbols found" or something like that?
[22:20] <dkg0> hrm, yes: (no debugging symbols found)
[22:20] <dkg0> but i have icedove-dbg installed.
[22:20] <gnomefreak> dkg0: on ubuntu or debian?
[22:20] <dkg0> debian, but i think this advice should make sense for either.
[22:20] <gnomefreak> dkg0: there are alot more you need like pango and such
[22:21] <gnomefreak> dkg0: debian should have the list of debugging packages needed. i dont think it uses apport
[22:21] <dkg0> i don't see a pango-dbg or anything
[22:21] <gnomefreak> dkg0: it was example i dont have list handy or i would have wrote up the how to for tbird
[22:22] <gnomefreak> the libs that are used for it should have -dbg
[22:22] <dkg0> gotcha.  i'll dig around there.
[22:23] <gnomefreak> pitti never did package apport for debian or use a ddebs repo so its hard for me to tell you off hand. but i would guess that the build-deps should give you an idea on som eof the -dbg packages
[22:24] <gnomefreak> or better yet the depends
[22:24] <dkg0> yup.  i can also see what's linked into an active process with "lsof -p $(pidof icedove-bin) | grep mem"
[22:26] <dkg0> gnomefreak: icedove-dbg contains /usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/icedove/icedove-bin
[22:27] <dkg0> and when i do this:
[22:27] <dkg0> echo bt | gdb -c tmp/coredumps/core.4342 --symbols /usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/icedove/icedove-bin
[22:27] <dkg0> it doesn't say "no symbols found" anymore.
[22:27] <gnomefreak> and it gives output of useful symbols?
[22:27] <dkg0> but the bt is still only one element in length
[22:28] <dkg0> i feel like the "[New Process NNNN]" lines are a clue that i'm looking at the wrong thing
[22:28] <dkg0> but i don't know how to get to the backtraces from thse other processes (or whatever they're indicating)
[22:28]  * dkg0 feels very clumsy, stumbling around in the dark
[22:29] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: see if you crash on this site http://lady.mail.ru  im not getting a crash
[22:30] <BUGabundo> gnomefreak: since I already have it
[22:30] <BUGabundo> apport won't fire so soon until I close both apps
[22:30] <BUGabundo> but the logs catch it
[22:30] <BUGabundo> so should apport log
[22:31] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: use it without opening the link copy and paste it
[22:31] <BUGabundo> May 18 22:30:32 blubug kernel: [ 6614.569740] firefox-3.6[23086]: segfault at 7f52ea016042 ip 00007f52edad9f78 sp 00007fff88a65930 error 4 in libc-2.9.so[7f52eda61000+168000]
[22:31] <BUGabundo> from your link
[22:31] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: sdee the #'s keep changing
[22:31] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: what kernel are you on?
[22:32] <fta> BUGabundo, is apport still active in karmic? i'm not sure, my /var/crash is empty, yet, i'm getting a few crashes.
[22:32] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: try 2.6.28-12-generic #43
[22:32] <gnomefreak> fta: yes it is active
[22:32] <BUGabundo> !uname -a
[22:32] <BUGabundo> grr
[22:32] <gnomefreak> i just had greasmonkey crash today during update
[22:32] <BUGabundo> Linux blubug 2.6.30-5-generic #6-Ubuntu SMP Mon May 11 20:46:57 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[22:32] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: try the one i gave above im betting crashes go away
[22:34] <gnomefreak> this sob weants to crash peoples browser :(
[22:36] <BUGabundo> humm
[22:36] <BUGabundo> gotta love pidgin crashes
[22:37] <BUGabundo> running on gdb now
[22:37] <BUGabundo> gnomefreak: Linux blubug 2.6.30-5-generic #6-Ubuntu SMP Mon May 11 20:46:57 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[22:39] <gnomefreak> 2.6.30 gave me a buntch of issues not one is the crashing but it was as well as 2.6.28-11.42 were causing those errors on shutdown so i boot up to 2.6.28-11.43 and all is fixed please try that kenrel see if it helps
[22:43] <dkg0> hum, looks like echoing bt into gdb isn't useful.
[22:43] <dkg0> if i do gdb -c core.1787 --symbols /usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/icedove/icedove-bin
[22:43] <dkg0> and then run bt within that
[22:44] <dkg0> i do see a 6-item backtrace
[22:44] <dkg0> but most are ?? .
[22:44] <dkg0> last two lines are:
[22:44] <dkg0> #5  0x0805799e in nsProfileLock::FatalSignalHandler (signo=-1210036236) at nsProfileLock.cpp:206
[22:44] <dkg0> Backtrace stopped: frame did not save the PC
[22:44] <gnomefreak> dkg0: new profile help? just asking
[22:45] <dkg0> new icedove profile you mean?
[22:46] <dkg0> the crash usually happens after icedove has been running for several days
[22:46] <asac> dkg0: do you have icedove-dbg installed?
[22:46] <dkg0> i can't really afford to run a new profile for that long with real activity.
[22:46] <dkg0> i do.
[22:47] <gnomefreak> i figured it wouldnt help but i didnt know the several days uptime
[22:48] <asac> dkg0: that means the backtrace is corruped .. .though i would try to use /usr/lib/icedove/run-mozilla.sh /usr/bin/gdb -c core...
[22:48] <asac> dkg0: if you can reproduce start icedove like: icedove -g
[22:49] <Sevenhill> asac: hello
[22:49] <dkg0> re: timing: i always have icedove open, and rarely quit it.  since the beginning of April, i've been collecting coredumps, and i have 8 coredumps to review.
[22:50] <Sevenhill> asac: are you the one who is responsible to wpasupplicant ?
[22:50] <asac> Sevenhill: more network manager, but whats the prob?
[22:50] <asac> dkg0: yeah. then try the command i gave
[22:50] <dkg0> asac: i tried "/usr/lib/icedove/run-mozilla.sh /usr/bin/gdb -c core.1787  --symbol /usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/icedove/icedove-bin", and it did the same thing.
[22:50] <Sevenhill> The current version of wpasupplicant has some problems about connection
[22:51] <dkg0> i'll try it against my other coredumps
[22:51] <asac> that should work without --symbol afaict
[22:51] <asac> yeah ... coredumps are often corrupted
[22:51] <dkg0> :(
[22:51] <Sevenhill> i couldn't connect lastest version of it with plasma-widget-networkmanager/managment (i'm not sure about its name )
[22:51] <asac> Sevenhill: define latest version
[22:51] <Sevenhill> by the way i'm using kubuntu9.10
[22:52] <asac> Sevenhill: chipset/driver?
[22:52] <Sevenhill> how can i check ?
[22:52] <dkg0> asac: every coredump looks the same under that command.
[22:52] <Sevenhill> 01:04.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG [Calexico2] Network Connection (rev 05)
[22:53] <dkg0> #0 is __kernel_vsyscall()
[22:53] <dkg0> #1->#4 are all ??()
[22:53] <dkg0> #5  0x0805799e in nsProfileLock::FatalSignalHandler (signo=-1210306572) at nsProfileLock.cpp:206
[22:53] <dkg0> Backtrace stopped: frame did not save the PC
[22:54] <Sevenhill> asac:  the definition of lastest version of wpasupplicant  0.6.9-2
[22:55] <dkg0> asac: are you suggesting that i should run icedove with the -g flag for some reason?  what does that do?
[22:55] <asac> Sevenhill: how are the symptoms?
[22:55] <Sevenhill> asac: but i had downgraded it to 0.6.4-3
[22:55] <asac> Sevenhill: have you tried to boot into the old jaunty kernel?
[22:55] <dkg0> (no man page, and --help doesn't explain it) :(
[22:55] <asac> Sevenhill: that helped?
[22:55] <Sevenhill> yes
[22:55] <Sevenhill> now i'm connected :)
[22:56] <Sevenhill> but that is not the only thing i did
[22:56] <asac> dkg0: -g runs idedove in the debugger
[22:56] <Sevenhill> i also downgraded the plasma-widget-networkmanager/management
[22:56] <dkg0> meaning that i'd just have a gdb process open during my long-running icedove session?
[22:56] <asac> Sevenhill: ok ... so try upgrading wpasupp again
[22:57] <Sevenhill> i installed this files :
[22:57] <dkg0> so if icedove crashes, i'll have an active gdb to inspect?
[22:57] <Sevenhill> plasma-widget-networkmanagement_0.1~svn951801-1_i386.deb  wpasupplicant_0.6.4-3_i386.deb
[22:57] <asac> Sevenhill: yeah. upgrade wpasupp again
[22:57] <asac> but keep plasma
[22:57] <asac> at the old version
[22:57] <asac> dkg0: right
[22:57] <Sevenhill> ok but i need to restart after i upgrade to test
[22:57] <asac> dkg0: thats why i asked if you can reproduce
[22:57] <Sevenhill> will you be here ?
[22:57] <asac> Sevenhill: unless that takes > 40 minutes ;)
[22:58] <Sevenhill> :) no it will take only 2 min :)
[22:58] <asac> yeah
[22:58] <asac> go
[22:58] <Sevenhill> i don't have a 486dx :D
[22:58] <dkg0> asac: it's not reproducible in the sense of "i do X, then Y, then Z"  but it's reproducible in the sense that i haven't been able to run icedove for > 7 days straight.
[22:58] <dkg0> so i'll see what i can get.
[22:58] <asac> dkg0: hmm. ok. gdb probably will make it slower
[22:58] <asac> but well
[22:59] <asac> if that helps its worth it i guess
[22:59] <dkg0> urg, it's *way* slower.  it hasn't even spawned a window yet.
[22:59] <dkg0> and i launched it 2 minutes ago.
[22:59] <asac> startup is slow
[22:59] <dkg0> sigh
[22:59] <Sevenhill> Preparing to replace wpasupplicant 0.6.4-3 (using .../wpasupplicant_0.6.9-2_i386.deb) ...
[22:59] <asac> but once thats done its ok
[22:59] <asac> at least here ;)
[22:59] <dkg0> ok
[22:59] <Sevenhill> now i will restart and try to come back
[22:59] <dkg0> i'm on a netbook :(
[23:00] <dkg0> any reason i should keep around these old coredumps then?
[23:00] <asac> Sevenhill: you dont need to restart
[23:00] <asac> hmm
[23:00] <BUGabundo> brb reconnecting 3G modem
[23:00] <asac> k
[23:00] <asac> this bluetooth is annoying for sure ...
[23:00] <asac> wonder how crappy things can be ;)
[23:01] <asac> dtchen: whats up with bt in jaunty pulse ... big problems?
[23:01] <asac> or am i just too dump ;)
[23:01] <asac> sumb
[23:01] <asac> dumb
[23:01] <asac> i guess that means i am ;)
[23:02] <micahg> asac: any plans to backport ubufox?
[23:03] <BUGabundo1> back
[23:03] <gnomefreak> micahg: thanks for the bug help :) i cleaned up a few you might have been working on
[23:04] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo1: kernel change things?
[23:04] <micahg> gnomefreak: I noticed :), thanks
[23:04] <dkg0> so i'm now running icedove under gdb, thanks, asac.
[23:04]  * gnomefreak here way too late
[23:04] <dkg0> if it crashes, i'll ask it for a bt.
[23:04] <micahg> gnomefreak: what tz are you in?
[23:04] <dkg0> any other pointers in case this happens?
[23:05] <gnomefreak> -0400 i think now
[23:05] <micahg> why is this late then?
[23:05] <gnomefreak> east US
[23:05] <gnomefreak> for me its late to be online
[23:05] <BUGabundo1> gnomefreak: ah?
[23:05] <micahg> ah
[23:06] <asac> micahg: backporting which ubufox to where?
[23:06] <micahg> intrepid or hardy
[23:07] <asac> micahg: is that a request?
[23:07] <asac> e.g. by a bug?
[23:07] <micahg> well, when troubleshooting "FF" issues, the different distro versions have different versions of ubufox to assist
[23:07] <asac> but yeah ... should be rather trivial
[23:07] <micahg> and it's a little harder to troubleshoot
[23:07] <micahg> especially flash and choosing the right plugin
[23:08] <asac> right ... thats available sine intrepid
[23:08] <asac> we probably wont get proper descriptions for those packages that dont have them though
[23:08] <micahg> true
[23:08] <micahg> but that we can solve in karmic or maybe jaunty
[23:08] <asac> if there are bugs about that, you can just close them as fixed in jaunty
[23:09] <micahg> I'm more concerned with the ability to choose plugins than their descr though
[23:09] <asac> micahg: jaunty is released ;) ... but afaik most "missing description" issues should be fixed
[23:09] <micahg> ah
[23:09] <asac> so if they report that against jaunty, we want to know ;)
[23:09] <asac> so we can fix that in karmic
[23:10] <asac> so seems Sevenhill couldnt connect with wpasupplicant updated
[23:10] <asac> hmm
[23:10] <asac> hopefully the issues are not too devastating ;)
[23:10] <micahg> wanted to ask you about bug 272010
[23:10] <micahg> there was a flash bug as well, but this one seemed to deal with java
[23:10] <micahg> should I merge in?
[23:10] <micahg> or is it fixed?
[23:10] <asac> micahg: yes, thats the bug for the "missing description" i talked above
[23:11] <micahg> ah
[23:11] <asac> micahg: java was one of the package set that didnt have all the meta data required in intrepid
[23:11] <asac> so thats why i filed that bug
[23:11] <asac> so seems sun-java6/5 still isnt fixed ... hmm. too bad
[23:11] <asac> maybe doko just forget to close that bug though
[23:12] <micahg> yep
[23:12] <micahg> looks like it's solved
[23:12] <micahg> I just checked in jaunty
[23:12] <micahg> I get descriptions for all three flash players
[23:12] <asac> fta: in the past apport wasnt eneabled in the first few weeks, when heavy transitions were going on ... maybe its the case at the moment as well
[23:13] <asac> micahg: yes, flash is definitly solved
[23:13] <fta> asac, i know, that's why i asked
[23:13] <asac> micahg: there is a bug left for flashplugin-nonfree though ... but thats a different one.
[23:13] <asac> fta: ah. ok ... ;)
[23:13] <micahg> asac, sun-java6 isn't fixed
[23:13] <micahg> in jaunty
[23:13] <asac> micahg: yeah. thats expected then
[23:13] <asac> i guess i need to kick doko ... or upload on my own
[23:14] <micahg> ok
[23:14] <micahg> I have to go close a whole bunch of bugs for the hugday tonight
[23:14] <micahg> the ones I"m already working on
[23:14] <micahg> so people can focus on untouched stuff
[23:15] <asac> micahg: can you paste a dpkg -L of the sun-java6 plugin package?
[23:15] <asac> micahg: nevermind
[23:15] <asac> i have it
[23:16] <asac> hmm
[23:16] <micahg> I was going to say, you can see that on packages.ubuntu.com :(
[23:16] <micahg> :)
[23:16] <asac> libjavaplugin_oji.so
[23:17] <asac> all plugins have that
[23:17] <asac> too bad
[23:17] <asac> guess we might want to check whether we can just rename the .so so it has a different filename than the java5 package
[23:18] <asac> welcome back ;)
[23:18] <asac> seems you had issues
[23:18] <Sevenhill> :) yep
[23:19] <Sevenhill> i found the murderer
[23:19] <asac> Sevenhill: you dont need to reboot to just restar wpasupp
[23:19] <asac> you can just do a sudo killall wpa-supplicant
[23:19] <Sevenhill> the plasma-widget-networkmanager
[23:19] <asac> yeah thats what i guessed ;)
[23:19] <asac> Sevenhill: what do you get in syslog when you try to connect?
[23:19] <asac> (and it fails)
[23:19] <Sevenhill> i don't check it
[23:20] <Sevenhill> but if is it logged under /var/log i can check it
[23:20] <asac> Sevenhill: yes its in /var/log
[23:21] <Sevenhill> 2 sec
[23:23] <Sevenhill> where can i upload this file ?
[23:23] <asac> Sevenhill: please copy the parts out and paste to paste.ubuntu.cokm
[23:23] <asac> com
[23:23] <BUGabundo> Sevenhill: want a UbuntuOne ? LOL
[23:23] <Sevenhill> BUGabundo: :) no you miss understand me
[23:24] <BUGabundo> Sevenhill: it was a joke
[23:24] <Sevenhill> i couldn't see upload file in paste.ubuntu.com
[23:24] <BUGabundo> eheh since you wanted to share a file
[23:24] <BUGabundo> nevermind
[23:25] <Sevenhill> i will just add neccesity parts
[23:25] <Sevenhill> 2 sec
[23:29] <asac> ... 4 minutes later  ...
[23:29] <asac> :=
[23:29] <BUGabundo> eheh
[23:29] <Sevenhill> http://pastebin.ca/1426926
[23:29] <Sevenhill> it is much longer than you think :)
[23:29] <asac> too bad my laundry stuff is still wet ... i need to pack my bag soon :(
[23:30] <asac> Sevenhill: what time?
[23:30] <Sevenhill> :) if i remember correct time  i can paste that time :)
[23:31] <Sevenhill> thats the why i  copied almost all :)
[23:31] <asac> hmm
[23:31] <asac> ok lets see
[23:33] <asac> Sevenhill: what do you have in wpa_supplicant.log?
[23:33] <Sevenhill> and this is the correct connection after new widget and restart :http://paste.ubuntu.com/175238/
[23:33] <asac> Sevenhill: how did you setup the connection in plasma network manager? maybe creating a new one helps?
[23:34] <Sevenhill> to test i delete whole .kde and recreate it
[23:34] <asac> Sevenhill: so the one that worked was with same wpasupp, but with old knetworkmanager stuff?
[23:34] <Sevenhill> it still don't connect with new plasma-widget
[23:35] <Sevenhill> now i'm connected with newest wpasupp but older widget
[23:35] <asac> 00:33 < asac> Sevenhill: what do you have in wpa_supplicant.log?
[23:36] <Sevenhill> wpa_supplicant log only gives me the log after my restart
[23:36] <Sevenhill> so i need to ungzip the olderone
[23:36] <Sevenhill> wait
[23:38] <Sevenhill> coming 2 sec
[23:38] <Sevenhill> http://paste.ubuntu.com/175244/
[23:38] <asac> what log is that?
[23:38] <asac> the one the didnt work?
[23:39] <Sevenhill> yes
[23:39] <asac> how does the one that worked look?
[23:39] <Sevenhill> Trying to associate with 00:18:fe:d0:f0:ed (SSID='Fatih-Yurtlar' freq=2417 MHz)
[23:39] <Sevenhill> Associated with 00:18:fe:d0:f0:ed
[23:39] <Sevenhill> WPA: Key negotiation completed with 00:18:fe:d0:f0:ed [PTK=CCMP GTK=CCMP]
[23:39] <Sevenhill> CTRL-EVENT-CONNECTED - Connection to 00:18:fe:d0:f0:ed completed (auth) [id=0 id_str=]
[23:40] <asac> Sevenhill: it would be really important to be sure that both logs are from the same wpasupp version
[23:40] <Sevenhill> asac:  let me try another new thing
[23:40] <asac> one log uess TKIP
[23:40] <Sevenhill> could you give me an url which has all versions of plasma-widget-networkmanager ?
[23:41] <asac> the other CCMP
[23:41] <asac> as you can see
[23:41] <asac> !info plasma-widget-networkmanager
[23:41] <asac> how annyoing
[23:41] <Sevenhill> its name changed
[23:41] <asac> !info plasma-widget-network-manager
[23:41] <asac> no link ;)
[23:41] <asac> annoying too
[23:42] <Sevenhill> but this one is working one
[23:42] <asac> launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-widget-network-manager
[23:42] <Sevenhill> the ubottu says old version
[23:42] <Sevenhill> 0.0+svn930811-0ubuntu2 this is working
[23:42] <Sevenhill> and also this one is working too
[23:42] <Sevenhill> ( 2sec )
[23:42] <Sevenhill> svn951801-1_i
[23:42] <Sevenhill> but this one is not
[23:42] <Sevenhill> (2 sec )
[23:44] <Sevenhill> 0.0+svn966653-0ubuntu1
[23:44] <Sevenhill> which means svn 951801  working but svn 966653 is not
[23:45] <Sevenhill> do you know the svn url of this plasma widget ?
[23:45] <asac> you mean 811?
[23:45] <asac> not 801?
[23:46] <mbana> hi asac do you know where the default .fonts.conf is installed
[23:46] <asac> so this is the diff http://launchpadlibrarian.net/26783077/plasma-widget-network-manager_0.0%2Bsvn930811-0ubuntu2_0.0%2Bsvn966653-0ubuntu1.diff.gz
[23:46] <asac> 50k ;)
[23:46] <micahg> mbana: locate .fonts.conf?
[23:46] <Sevenhill> :) then i need to check more newer version of plasma-widget-network-manager
[23:46]  * BUGabundo s/locate/mlocate/
[23:47] <Sevenhill> i mean newer than  966653
[23:47] <mbana> thanks, but i've looking for the system version.
[23:47] <mbana> i don't tihnk it's called .fonts.conf ;)
[23:47] <Sevenhill> asac:  is that in kde trunk ?
[23:48] <micahg> /etc/fonts/fonts.conf?
[23:51] <asac> Sevenhill: no thats the debdiff of the two packages
[23:51] <asac> you can find that in the link above
[23:51] <asac> mbana: default .fonts.conf ... in what sense?
[23:51] <Sevenhill> asac: i mean where is the original project
[23:51] <asac> the default font configs are in /etc/fonts/conf.d/
[23:52] <asac> and your use _can_ setup a $HOME/.fonts.conf
[23:52] <asac> but you dont nee that file at all
[23:52] <Sevenhill> in kde tree or it is an external project ?
[23:52] <asac> Sevenhill: no idea ;)
[23:52] <asac> google
[23:52] <asac> i am not really kde ;)
[23:53] <asac> http://websvn.kde.org/
[23:53] <asac> hmm. cannot find it there
[23:54] <Sevenhill> :) you have to learn to live with it :)
[23:54] <asac> should be in debian/copyright
[23:54] <asac> This package was debianized by Anthony Mercatante <tonio@ubuntu.com> on
[23:54] <asac> Mon, 19 Jan 2009 05:53:06 +0100.
[23:54] <asac> It was downloaded from http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/playground/base/plasma/applets/networkmanager/
[23:54] <asac> yeah ...playground
[23:54] <asac> that feels like it ;)
[23:55] <asac> ok i have to iron a bit ... will look in a bit again