[00:00] do you still have the command you typed? [00:00] fta: i should [00:00] tar -zcvf back-up.2009.17.05.tar.gz back-up.2009.17.05 [00:00] should work [00:01] i know that is where the problem is :) [00:01] does 'file back-up.2009.17.05.tar.gz' say it's a gzip compressed data? [00:01] see if: tar -jcvf back-up.2009.17.05.tar.bz2 back-up.2009.17.05 is any better [00:02] fithe file is not a gz opening properties says it is a file [00:02] folder (inode/directory) [00:02] ? [00:02] 1,521 items, totalling 4.1 GB [00:03] back-up.2009.17.05.tar.gz: gzip compressed data, from Unix, last modified: Sun May 17 13:25:58 2009 [00:03] hm [00:03] trying bz2 [00:03] may be a while [00:03] indeed [00:04] linux used to keep folder/file siz even when files are removed. AFAIK that is no longer [00:05] * BUGabundo1 goes to bed [00:07] night BUGabundo1 [00:08] i hate the idea of trying a backup app since it shouldnt be needed [00:08] looking for one just in case [00:09] deja-dup [00:10] Description: Backup utility D [00:10] are you kidding [00:10] that is the whole description [00:11] http://mterry.name/deja-dup/#screenshots [00:11] i will look at it in a few i going to install a few to try [00:11] https://edge.launchpad.net/deja-dup [00:12] it's in universe [00:13] i saw that with show. im pretty much locked up atm trying to open [00:19] are the open file and upload boxes governed by the same rules? [00:29] bug 279193, should that be redirected to the firefox gnome support package? [00:29] Launchpad bug 279193 in firefox-3.0 "Unable to upload files from GVFS sources" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/279193 [00:29] ive seen that bug before a while ago [00:31] micahg: i think it should be gnome-support but look for a duplicate unless we closed it it should still be out there [00:31] ah, in LP, it's all under FF3 apparently [00:31] micahg: make sure ither browsers are tested like eiphany-webkit [00:32] im not confident it is strictly firefox [00:32] ok [00:33] gnomefreak: there seem to be a couple for opening smb links [00:34] I can't find one like this [00:34] as i recall the problem was related to gvfs but it was a while since i saw it [00:34] there's also one for saving files [00:34] this one's for uplaods [00:34] micahg: bug 231221 [00:34] Launchpad bug 231221 in xulrunner "Saving a file from Firefox to a gvfs resource fails silently" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/231221 [00:35] that close to the same? [00:35] yep, saw that [00:35] no, I think this is different [00:36] User says in that bug that upload fails but can see the share [00:36] ok just making sure [00:36] current bug can't see the share [00:36] fta: would that be xulrunner bug? [00:37] i dont play with gvfs and have no plans to [00:37] ill be back time for a smoke [00:42] * gnomefreak wonders if i removed SM2 tarballs [00:42] micahg: have it tested on epiphany-gecko epiphany-webkit and can you do that with nautilus alone? [00:43] yep i removed them [00:44] fta: i just firefox and xulrunner daily updates did tbird not build yet? [00:44] gnomefreak, all green: https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa [00:44] going to bed, i'm tired [00:45] gnomefreak: I don't even see an epiphany-webkit [00:45] fta: night [00:45] micahg: i am fairy sure that is name but let me check [00:45] I asked the user to try in epiphany [00:46] hm [00:47] gnomefreak: here's why [00:47] http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=epiphany-webkit [00:47] Depends: epiphany-gecko | epiphany-webkit [00:47] it only existed in intrepid [00:47] if it depends on it we have it [00:47] micahg: right [00:47] not necessarily [00:47] it still depends on it in jaunty [00:47] but it's an or [00:47] micahg: i have it installed or at least did [00:47] and we don't have the second option [00:48] yeah i know what | is [00:48] :) [00:48] recently installed Ubuntu 9.04, one of the features that I can find in my firefox is the middle CLICK drag/scroll (the one that kinda creates a small circular up and down arrow), middle click once and move mouse to scroll... any suggestions ? [00:48] of course [00:48] un epiphany-webki (no description available) [00:48] dpkg -l epiphany* shows it [00:49] ah [00:49] gnomefreak: could bug 153716 be the original? or is it too old? [00:49] Launchpad bug 153716 in firefox "Bad gnome vfs support" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/153716 [00:49] this mornings tbird update was latest firefox xulrunner did another update i guess [00:50] micahg: looking [00:50] I read something about gnome moving from gnome vfs to GIO [00:50] you would know more [00:51] as I use xubuntu :) [00:51] lets make sure that bug is still valid first change to -3.0 and find out if valid [00:51] Xfce is also moving [00:51] gnomefreak: that bug only has FF2 listed [00:51] but yes im thinking they are related [00:51] shouldn't I check if they upgraded before moving? [00:52] and should I remove mozillateam froma ssignee? [00:52] i did it :) [00:52] oops forgot that but just did it [00:53] When was the last time new FF3 bugs was under 600? [00:54] ah tbird == 2009-05-15 where as firefox xul are the 17th [00:54] gnomefreak: are you subscribing to that old gnomevfs bug or do you want me to follow up? [00:54] micahg: i dont remember i try to get to ff2 bugs more than 3.0 when i have my bug days [00:54] ah [00:54] micahg: i get all firefox bugs [00:55] ah [00:55] all mozilla bugs [00:55] ah [00:55] right [00:55] that is the perks of owning a team :( [00:55] you own the team? [00:55] micahg: yes [00:55] can I become a member? [00:56] do I want to become a member? :) [00:57] micahg: its not all that important to be a member other than to upload to MT PPA. ask me again if im here tomorrow and either i will ping asac or you can and we will talk about it. I have seen you do a crap load of bugs so i have no objections [00:58] * gnomefreak tries not to look at every bug since i get 200-300 bugs a day normaly [00:58] ok, well I'm not ready to upload yet, so maybe I'll hold off [00:58] and I joined Ubuntu-MozillaSquad [00:58] micahg: thats pretty much the perk of being a member. [00:59] micahg: good that would be the one we look at for contributions [00:59] ok [00:59] can you look at a private crash report for me gnomefreak [00:59] original bug 369552 [00:59] Launchpad bug 369552 in firefox-3.0 "Firefox segfaults on most webpages" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/369552 [00:59] last comment has private bug # [01:00] k [01:03] its public and the other is marked as a dup [01:04] sorry took so long people use !ops for no reason :( [01:04] anything private in there? [01:04] i didnt see anything [01:05] if you find something i midded let me know [01:07] gnomefreak: and reasone why the thread trace would show glibc 2.3.2? [01:07] on Jaunty? [01:08] !info glibc [01:08] Package glibc does not exist in jaunty [01:08] !info libc6 [01:08] libc6 (source: glibc): GNU C Library: Shared libraries. In component main, is required. Version 2.9-4ubuntu6 (jaunty), package size 4366 kB, installed size 10904 kB [01:09] gnomefreak: I don't know how to really read this stuff yet [01:09] but the ProcMaps show the proper libc lib [01:10] but the thread trace shows this [01:10] http://launchpadlibrarian.net/26857057/ThreadStacktrace.txt [01:10] #1 0xb803c412 in pthread_cond_timedwait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () from /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libpthread.so.0 [01:10] it should be right [01:11] this looks like a xul crash but asac is the master crash guy :) [01:13] that is i dont think it is libc bug [01:14] ok asked for some helpful info to start with [01:16] libc6 2.9-4ubuntu6 [01:16] well, I found that he;s using adobe's flash plugin [01:16] packge [01:16] that is from http://launchpadlibrarian.net/26857050/Dependencies.txt [01:16] not ours [01:16] micahg: 64bit or 32 bit? [01:16] he';s on 32 bit [01:16] I read it in the stacktracee [01:17] it's in /usr/lib/adobe-flashplugin/ [01:17] flash isnt the cause of the crash or we wouldnt get any useful crash info [01:17] right, but it might be conflicting [01:18] it might be the monkey wrence [01:19] micahg: ask him to post his about:plugins he can print to file and push file to bug [01:19] don;'t we have an apport hook for that? [01:19] micahg: i thought it was automatic but its not there [01:20] to call it himself there might be but im not up on my apport [01:21] i think the compression doesnt want to continue :( [01:21] bz2 takes a long time [01:21] it stopped at one point and has been there for well over 10 minutes [01:21] re running it [01:22] could you have a recusive symlink somewhere? [01:22] *recursive [01:22] no [01:22] bug 303269, should that be Wishlist -> Traiged? [01:22] Launchpad bug 303269 in firefox "Automatically select language for spell check based on user input" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/303269 [01:23] it stopped on muisic so i can guess why [01:23] ah [01:23] crap [01:23] micahg: let me look at that [01:24] i hate the workds closer almost the same ect... [01:26] that upstream bug needs to be confirmed on linux as well as windows or the user needs to file his own [01:26] windows/linux dont act the same (fairly sure that goes for lang as well [01:27] gnomefreak: It's marked as all as well as Win XP [01:28] that shouldnt be like that :( ther should be a , or something betwen them [01:29] to me all windows xp means 64 32 pro home ect.... but i guess you are right [01:30] i would like a comment saying linux or mac all at this time are windows or not mentioned [01:30] and if this was blocking 2.0 than an updated bug would be great [01:30] nevermind [01:31] no more work on 2.0 :) [01:31] thank god [01:31] brb g/f [02:19] fta: what audio parameters is sauerbraten configured to use vice openarena? [02:20] fta: they both seem SDL-based from a cursory glance [03:13] Is there a javascript expert in here? [03:25] should bug 318361 be merged into 272010 [03:25] Launchpad bug 318361 in firefox "ubuntu plugin finder service database iSSUE" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/318361 [03:25] oops [03:25] bug 272010 [03:25] Launchpad bug 272010 in totem "Some plugins lack proper ubufox integration (Was: confusing plugin selection dialog)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/272010 [03:25] ^^^ doesn't have any flash mention in it [03:25] but it seems generic [11:00] stefanlsd: hi [11:00] asac: heys :) [11:01] stefanlsd: so could we use system png/jpeg as well? [11:01] stefanlsd: also ... i think a better approach (easier to maintain or even upstream) for system gecko would be to [11:01] create links for the gecko_sdk/ hierachy [11:02] asac: i spend like pretty much the whole of yesterday trying - all those combinations. doesnt work with system png / jpeg [11:02] asac: with system png, jpeg. it builds and installs, but doesnt actually work [11:03] asac: how do u mean with the links... [11:03] stefanlsd: http://paste.ubuntu.com/174823/ [11:04] that was an experimentish thing [11:04] http://paste.ubuntu.com/174824/ [11:04] also that part i think [11:05] stefanlsd: ok so for gecko: [11:05] stefanlsd: what they currently do is to create a hierarchy with $(GECKO_SDK)/gecko_sdk/... [11:06] in the build tree [11:06] if we could - instead of copying/linking the sdk from third_party just link to the system one that would be better i guess [11:07] idea would be that we dont ened to touch all the in #includes which probably is a pain to maintain in the long run [11:07] stefanlsd: how didnt he system png/jpeg thing fail/not work? [11:07] did it crash? === dpm_ is now known as dpm [11:08] asac: no crash. just clicking on gears settings in the menu doesnt display the menu, and using google offline mail says gears is not installed... [11:08] stefanlsd: do you see anything on the console where you start firefox? [11:09] asac: ok, will have a look at the copying/linking [11:09] asac: dont think so, need to double check [11:12] stefanlsd: or maybe there is something in tools -> error console [11:12] asac: kk. check that again [11:13] stefanlsd: great. thanks a lot for working on gears ;) [11:13] asac: hehe. np. its been a nightmare :) [11:14] ehehe [11:14] nightmare is negative ... challenge is better ;) [11:14] like managing NM, right asac? [11:14] nah ... thats fun ;) [11:15] (if there werent so many bugs i cannot follow up as much as i like) [11:23] asac: can you help jagadeesh? [11:23] he is requesting help configuring a Globespan modem [11:23] yes [11:23] Thanks BUGabundo [11:23] np [11:24] and now we wait eheh [11:24] actually I am using D-Link's GLB-802C ADSL Router. [11:24] asac as just here 10 min ago... [11:24] so your problem is with the usb dongle right? [11:25] have you tried to debug it according to the wiki? [11:25] pointer to wiki please [11:25] trying to find it myself [11:25] !networkmanager [11:25] networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager [11:26] ok [11:26] am connecting modem via USB [11:26] jagadeesh: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingNetworkManager [11:26] humm [11:26] I got this wrong [11:27] so you are trying to connect to the adsl modem directly via usb? [11:27] its not wifi ? [11:27] no [11:27] yes I am connectiing modem via USB [11:28] ok [11:28] lets see if asac can help you out [11:28] brb [11:28] ok [11:28] thanks [11:32] hmm he is gone [11:37] seems so [11:38] I could memoserv him [11:41] well .. if he shows up again tell him to not leave after 5 minutes ;) [11:46] will do [11:47] asac: then again I may have left to go try to debug and make it work [12:51] * asac lunch [13:36] https://code.edge.launchpad.net/chromium-browser funny :) [13:37] hi fta2 [13:37] what's going on in chromium land? [13:54] the "funny" thing was the "last modified" tiny graph [14:17] debian bug 522630 [14:17] Debian bug 522630 in icedove "icedove: New upstream version (2.0.0.21)" [Wishlist,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/522630 === asac_ is now known as asac [14:47] asac: bug 376715 is that even worth it? [14:47] Launchpad bug 376715 in mozilla-thunderbird "Thunderbird - feature request - nest in toolbar" [Wishlist,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/376715 [14:48] gnomefreak: i think moz-traybiff is available as an extension? [14:49] hunderbird-traybiff - traybiff - new mail alert for thunderbird [14:49] i think so let me check [14:49] thunderbird-traybiff - traybiff - new mail alert for thunderbird [14:49] could be that it doesnt prevent tbird from closing if used, if so reassign the bug [14:49] if that is new mail alert than not what he wants [14:50] * gnomefreak doesnt get it. he doesnt want it to close than he shouldnt close it [14:50] let me ask a few things [14:52] gnomefreak: he wants that ttbird doesnt shut down if you close it [14:52] instead only the newmail notification icon should stay there from what i understand [14:52] like pidgin and other apps that live in the tray [14:52] asac: yeah well guess what it should chut down if you shut it down [14:53] that is what he wants but i have a feeling that tbird is going to use a good amount of mem/proc to do that. [14:53] we cant do this for tbird2 anyway in hardy [14:55] yeah [14:55] tell him to look at traybiff [14:55] tofix the bug make a panel launcher (same result as clicking on the applet. except that maybe its faster since it is always checking email. I know here i cant have that happen and im sure others cant as well. it would lag way too much and i get way too many emails to make it worth it [14:56] and if that doesnt work as expected traybiff is probably the right place to fix/file this [14:56] ok [15:01] done [15:08] asac: speaking of the above. mozilla 477757 however it seems to be an addon to the bug when it should be its own bug [15:08] Mozilla bug 477757 in General "Shredder blocks logout under Ubuntu" [Minor,Resolved: invalid] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477757 [15:12] gnomefreak: not sure. ask him if he still sees the problem with tbird 3 to be sure [15:12] from what i understood the users didnt want shredder to close at all [15:14] i dont want firefox to crash but it happens [15:15] looks like different users [15:16] asked him if its the same so lets see what he says [15:26] * gnomefreak smoke [15:41] * asac out to run some errands [15:54] ok now i can o smoke [16:20] jcastro, about barcelona, do you know if it is possible to buy a weekly ticket/pass for the metro/tram? and if it's worth it. [16:21] fta2: I don't know, however on the /UDS page there is a link to the loco guys from the catalan team who probably know [16:21] fta2: jpds is local and he's in a bunch of ubuntu channels, he might now [16:22] fta2: I am heading to barcelona today, as we find out things like that we'll update the /UDS pages [16:22] jcastro, great, thanks [16:44] * gnomefreak will be in and out today. I'm taking the day to cook at least for most of it [16:44] rest of time its the tarball issue [17:02] asac: do I need to do something to join bug control? [17:02] micahg: i sent a email to list for him since he is gone [17:02] ah [17:02] ok [17:02] gnomefreak: how's your tarball? [17:03] micahg: still woprking on it :) [17:03] ah [17:03] it's amazing how much a new profile helps people [17:03] im goigng to be in and out today [17:04] they figure out their extensions are messed up [17:04] micahg: people screw thiers up by either running sudo package or crap from mozilla addons or any other extensions [17:05] i got one person that refuses to try a new orofile so see what i can do outside of that but im 95% sure it is profile related [17:05] ok be back [17:06] what's the deal with backporting extensions to older versions of ubuntu? [17:13] depends on what bugs are filed for it. How much testing has been done (will be done once in PPA) and who feels like working on it. and some other things that i can no tthink of atm [17:14] * gnomefreak is against any extensions mozilla releated apps being backported for Hardy [17:16] micahg: if you can email me a list of them i can at least set them in my PPA. since they change so often backporting them are kind of bad/too much work. ok back to stove [17:18] well, for example, bug 377392 had a problem with Ad Block Plus [17:18] Launchpad bug 377392 in firefox-3.0 "i was locking a web tv of sport, ther's 30seconde of image and sound and after a message that's a program is agressiv and blocking de loading of the page" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/377392 [17:18] but it's packaged in ubuntu [17:18] and the user is running the packaged version AFAIK [17:19] gnomefreak: actually, can we chat later tonight? just let me know when is good [17:19] I have to go to work [17:19] and won't be avaialble for much [17:22] jcastro, i have my answer: http://www.barcelona-tourist-guide.com/en/transport/barcelona-metro.html the T10 is better than 10 one way tickets, and the Barcelona Card is too expensive and limited to 5 days. I'll go for 1 or 2 T10. [17:36] adblock+ has way too many bugs to even think about backporting [17:37] ok, is there a time later tonight I can chat with you gnomefreak? [17:38] micahg: i dont know but you can always email me if im not here at gnomefreak at ubuntu dot com [17:38] ok [17:38] any plans to backport ubufox? [17:38] micahg: that is asac's baby :) [17:38] ok [17:39] I'll ask him [17:39] bug 374398 [17:39] Launchpad bug 374398 in firefox "Glitches around checkboxes in Firefox" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/374398 [17:39] not sure what to do as user is having problems in other apps [17:39] move to compiz? [17:40] most likely but give me a minute [17:41] ask if it happens without compiz if it doesnt move to compiz or even search our firefox bugs with compiz there are a few [17:41] ok gone [17:42] gone? [17:59] taking care of other things today cooking cleaning dogs hair and other shit g/f wants me to do [18:00] ah [18:00] yes [18:00] ok [18:00] off to work for me [18:52] oh dear ... i hate travel preparations ;) [18:52] actually i think i dislike travelling ;) [19:47] micahg: hi [19:47] anything you needed? [19:48] hi [19:48] I was wondering about bug control membership [19:48] if I need to do anything [19:48] asac: ^^^ [20:38] micahg: i dont know for sure, but i think not [20:38] i will meet the right folks tomorrow, so we will probably just add you [20:53] anyone having problems rendering woflfram|aplha? [20:56] asac: cool, thanks [21:02] guud evening [21:02] asac: shouldnt you be leaving for UDS at end of week? it normaly starts on sun or mon [21:04] ni BUGabundo [21:06] * gnomefreak really really hates aim [21:08] gnomefreak: easy: don't use it ? [21:08] BUGabundo: try like hell not to but im looking for someone that needs a wack in the back of the head [21:09] gnomefreak: aim client or service? [21:09] micahg: both i hate the sevice most [21:10] ah [21:10] i can get along with pidgin [21:10] I prefer it to MSN or YIM [21:10] i agree. be back [21:12] I prefer XMPP [21:12] its OPEN [21:13] gnomefreak: no leaving tomorrow [21:13] we have a company meeting up-front [21:13] allhands [21:13] BUGabundo: XMPP is great if you have people on that network, or you run your own [21:14] i ignore folks on other networks ;) [21:14] asac: did you hear about the hugday for FF? [21:14] yeah [21:15] ill be at this company event, but i hope i can be on at least half of the day [21:17] I'll try to watch the bugs channel on thursday [21:17] micahg: XMPP is federated! [21:17] thx [21:17] no need to make islands [21:17] federated? [21:17] * BUGabundo asac only uses IRC and identica [21:17] oh and mail [21:24] asac: ah ok [21:25] * gnomefreak needs to find a bot for aim to log rooms [21:27] asac: have a nice trip :) [21:32] i am so glad i dont deal with these people for more than 2 days a year [21:33] eheh [21:41] my dvd writer is clicking at me :( [21:42] i thought clicking == spinning but disk doesnt wan tto mount or burn or anything of the like [21:43] fta_: .............................. ping [21:43] FF still crashes on every open from another app [21:43] how long more will this last? [21:44] BUGabundo: disable your 300 extensions [21:44] 40 or less now [21:44] I clean them [21:44] made a new profile [21:45] let me count them again [21:45]