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ubottuIn ubottu, rww said: !no, mikem-#ubuntu-offtopic is <alias> o4o00:00
LjL+100:00
Flannelhaha00:01
FlannelWe should just append mikem to the list of taboo topics! :)00:01
Matr|xi will change my mind for being use ubuntu caz bad helper 00:11
LjLkthxbye00:12
Matr|xbad helper on ubuntu room00:12
Matr|xthey give me ban :O00:12
FlannelMatr|x: You were forwarded here because you had trouble paying attentions to the instructions in #ubuntu00:12
Matr|xwow if i did so bad things:D if im tourism :D00:12
FlannelI'm hoping you're willing to listen here, and learn to be a better participant in #ubuntu, so we can let you back in.00:13
Matr|xi dont know english00:13
Matr|xlittle english i do00:13
Matr|xi cant read00:13
Matr|xi can undrstand little00:13
LjL!arabic00:14
ubottuFor Arabic language support, please : /join #ubuntu-arabic : للحصول على الدعم باللغة العربية00:14
Matr|xthey will not help me 00:14
Matr|xthey are stuped like me :D00:14
Matr|xif that possible i would know my web cam name and version 00:15
FlannelMatr|x: This is not a support channel,00:15
Matr|xso wher i can go :O 00:15
Matr|xim banned from the ubuntu support channel 00:16
Flannel#ubuntu is the proper channel for that question00:16
Matr|x #ubuntu #ubuntu-ops :Forwarding to another channel00:16
LjLMatr|x: don't PM me please00:17
FlannelMatr|x: If you were paying attention, I already told you: I forwarded you here (instead of banning you out right) in hopes that you'd be able to fix your misbehavior00:17
Matr|xfuck u alllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll 00:17
LjLthat clears it up00:17
FlannelIndeed.00:17
Matr|xyea its fucking mad me :S00:17
Matr|xwhy u ppl do that with me :S00:17
LjLbecause you're being arrogant.00:17
LjLand abusive.00:18
Flannel@mark Matr|x00:19
ubottuThe operation succeeded.00:19
Flanneltux11 almost sounds drunk00:21
LjLmore than almost00:22
FlannelIt's ... sunday... why are people drunk on sundays?00:23
LjLFlannel: hey, i've just had a beer myself.00:23
FlannelIsn't ... work tomorrow and stuff?00:24
LjLwork?00:24
LjLpfff00:24
FlannelFFForever: How can we help you today?00:24
LjLhi FFForever00:24
FFForeverHow is #Ubuntu staff picked?00:24
LjLchosen by the irc council00:25
LjLafter watching their behavior for quite a while00:25
FFForeverAhhh00:25
FFForeverAlso can you guys break up #ubuntu i find with all of the scrolling text its a pain to actually get help without asking 4-5 times during peak hours =\00:26
FFForevermaybe load balance it between ubuntu-1, -2, -3, etc00:26
LjLFFForever: that is a problem, it has been discussed often but in general ops seemed not to believe there is a breaking-up scheme that would work well00:27
FFForever=\00:27
LjLFFForever: i have my own #ubuntu-meta experiment to report unanswered questions but mostly it's been ignored00:27
FlannelFFForever: The problem with that is that the helpers would have to watch N channels instead of 100:28
Flanneland each switch requires you to read a lot of scrollback to catch up, etc.00:28
FlannelSo isntead of remaining up to date with the state of the chat, we'd spend all our time playing catch up00:28
FFForeverFlannel, so make dedicated room ops00:28
FlannelIt's not about the operators, its about the people asking questions00:28
Flanneler, answering00:28
FFForeverwell give each person 1 assigned room00:29
LjLno one assigns anyone anything00:29
LjLpeople answering questions are volunteers00:29
LjLthey answer if and when they feel like00:29
LjLthey aren't appointed by anyone00:29
tritiumFFForever: we are all volunteers00:29
FlannelFFForever: Alright, I'll assign you #ubuntu-100:29
FFForever^_^00:29
* FFForever waits for visitors00:30
FlannelFFForever: now remember, you have to answer every question in that room for 8 hours straight until someone comes and relieves you.00:30
FlannelDo you see how that won't really work?00:30
FFForeveryeah, and i already do it in #crossover....00:31
Flannelso, that's why we have #ubuntu00:31
FlannelFFForever: also, please part #ubuntu-1 ;)00:33
FFForever..., but you assigned me there for 8hours a day :D00:33
Flannelonly as a gedankexperiment00:34
FFForever...00:34
Flannelthought experiment00:34
* LjL denkt dass flannel sollte englisch sprechen00:35
FlannelLjL: "gedankexperiment" is the technical term, yes, it's borrowed, but that doesn't mean its not an "english word"00:35
LjLi was only postulating that it weren't as a gedankexperiment.00:36
FlannelHaha00:36
tritiumhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thought_experiment00:37
LjLalso, my german there was broken.00:37
Flannelyeah, but I understood it00:37
FlannelOh dear.  Seems the infinitive case is the proper usage.00:38
LjLinfinitive *case*?00:38
Flannelwould you prefer form?00:38
LjLinfinitive is a mood00:38
LjLnouns have cases, verbs don't00:38
LjLanyway the problem i see with my sentence is that "sollte" should have been at the end00:39
FlannelOnly in the literary sense.  I was using 'case' as in, scenario, etc.00:39
FlannelYes, I was referring to "Gedanken" vs "Gedank"00:39
LjLah.00:39
Flannelalthough, I suppose proper conjucation would be Gedankt, wouldn't it?00:39
LjLerr...00:39
LjLdenken, dacht... dakt...00:39
LjLi dunno :<00:39
ubottuth0r called the ops in #ubuntu ()00:40
Seeker`the point is that assigning people to support rooms only works if they are definately available during set hours, and you have a large overlap of knowledge, i.e. for N rooms you need N sets of people that know all of the answers to the problems00:41
LjLnorrisg1...00:42
FlannelSigh.00:42
FlannelI had only muted him, I suppose I should've just banned him00:42
LjLFlannel: to be entirely honest, i think he could have safely gotten rid of much earlier than the mute00:43
FlannelIndeed, I could've.  But I figured with the mute, he'd get bored for not talking and leave.00:43
Flannels/for/with/00:43
LjLno but i mean, before you muted him, IMHO it was already clear he was just a low-level troll00:44
Flanneland then the mute would time out, and I wouldn't have to remember to remove a ban in a few days00:44
Seeker`Flannel: you speaking to him?00:44
FlannelNo, I'm not00:44
Seeker`k00:44
FlannelFFForever: Does that satisfy your question regarding a number of rooms?00:44
FFForeverFlannel, yeah00:46
* jrib hands LjL a anti-troll cookie00:47
LjLthank you jribbo00:47
FFForeverFlannel, on a side note the upgrade worked and do-release-upgrade says there are no new versions00:49
Seeker`according to sebsebseb, ilyas was around earlier saying "j/ #linuxac" and not much else00:54
Seeker`FFForever: if you dont have any more questions for the ops, Can I request that you part this channel?00:54
ubottuknome called the ops in #xubuntu ()00:58
* LjL wonders if TomTom1 was actually helped by gnorris, pity he left the server now after first leaving the channel.01:00
Seeker`!idle | FFForever 01:02
ubottuFFForever: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only; we ask you to part when you have no further business here in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries.01:02
Seeker`g'night01:21
LjLdoes !spam *have* to be aliased to !etiquette?01:35
LjLi see it used quite inappropriate (and, hell, it spams!) a few times01:35
Seeker`!-spam01:36
ubottuspam is <alias> etiquette - added by Mez on 2007-02-11 16:34:5001:36
Seeker`!spam is <reply> Please don't spam01:36
ubottuBut spam already means something else!01:36
Seeker`ubottu no, spam is <reply> Please don't spam01:36
ubottuI'll remember that Seeker`01:36
Pici"how do I control the IRC?" I wish I knew.01:39
LjLPici: indeed, indeed01:39
Seeker`/mode +b *!*01:39
LjLSeeker`: fail01:39
Seeker`hit enter too soon01:39
* Seeker` sleep01:43
LjLf1shb0t is a bot02:02
LjLspamming several channels02:02
PiciI figured/02:03
LjLPici: check o-m too02:03
PiciI know, I checked /who02:03
LjLwhy do i even tell you things like this02:03
jumbers__mikem :|02:16
LjLi think you might want to elaborate, or something02:21
jumbersWell, elky had to yell at him last night twice for acting violently02:23
jumbersWe were in a somewhat heated discussion about free software and seemed to be getting a little bit too passionate about it02:23
jumbersThen later on, he said something about covering me in liquid nitrogen and lighting me on fire, which I didn't quite understand because that wouldn't work anyways, but that was strike #2 from her02:24
jumbersOh, LjL ^ Just so it'll give you the alert that I talked :-P02:25
LjLread it already.02:26
jumbersOkiedoke02:26
LjLbut i'm not the one who needs to read it02:26
jumbersWho does?02:26
LjLops02:26
jumbersAren't you one?02:26
LjLno. you already highlighted elky, unfortunately she doesn't seem to be around, otherwise i suspect highlighting her would have been a good mode ;)02:27
jumbersYeah, I think she comes on later02:27
jumbersShould I just paste in the part of what he said for her to see later?02:28
jumbersIt's 4 lines I think02:28
jumbersI'm not sure how flood rate rules are02:28
LjLyou might want to highlight what you think was not appropriate, yes02:28
jumbers<jumbers> wims: Just apt-get it? Or is there no package for it?02:28
jumbers<wims> yeah02:28
jumbers<wims> apt-get02:28
jumbers* __mikem apt-gets some .45 rounds and shoots wims02:28
jumbersFor you elky ^02:29
LjLjumbers, my ¢2 opinion... mikem can be annoying, but then this sort of "violence" is usually very much in jest, it's the same sort of "violence" that comes from the bot's @lart02:32
jumbersI understand that, I'm just mentioning this because she had to talk to him twice yesterday about it02:34
LjLsure, it's also true that things add up.02:35
jumbersAlso, as a side note, not many of the @lart things are actually violent, most are just horrible things like being divided by zero02:36
jumbersExcept being stabbed by ubottu :(02:36
LjLerr, i "think" relay2 is a bot02:41
LjLoh, it left by itself.02:41
rwwHello everyone :). __mikem's been more irritating than usual, and is persisting in his "/me [does stupid violent things] to [random people]" messages despite being asked not to. It'd be awesome if 1) there were guidelines about whether him "stabbing" and "poking" and "humping" (though I haven't seen that one recently) is okay in -ot, 2) the !mikem factoid got dropped (since it's only encouraging him).02:56
LjLhe did do the humping thing recently02:57
jumbersrww: Glad you came to say something similar to what I did. That means I'm not the only one that feels that way02:57
jumbersLjL: Yeah, before02:57
ubottuchuck_ called the ops in #ubuntu ()02:58
ubottuLjL called the ops in #ubuntu ()02:58
rwwjumbers: You're definitely not. I suspect there are plenty of people in -ot that don't particularly enjoy him.02:58
rwwI know he and I have had our disagreements in the past, so I might not be considered objective, but I think he needs a talking to or something to get him to cut it out.02:59
jumbersrww: I'm pretty sure "pouring liquid nitrogen on me and then lighting me with a match" is definitely o4o02:59
jumbersrww: Even though that would not work anyway because it's not flammable02:59
jumbersrww: He already had two yesterday, by elky03:00
jumbersrww: One for getting very angry about free software, and the other had to do with the liquid nitrogen thing I mentioned above03:00
rwwI imagine it falls under the various "don't be an asshat"-esque parts of IrcGuidelines. Unfortunately, he seems to be one of those people that only follows literal rules (and only then because we've been throwing !politics and !o4o at him repeatedly for what, months?)03:01
FlannelI'll keep a closer eye on him, I've been halfway here for most of the day.03:02
Amaranthrww: there is "Don't be annoying "03:02
jumbersThe problem is, he say "okay, okay, sorry" and does it again03:02
FlannelThere's a few things that he could be caught up to speed regarding03:03
Amaranthand "Be respectful" from the CoC03:03
jumbersOh, I think this might also be something to note down. He PMed me yesterday after the second incident03:03
jumbersIt's a couple lines, don't get mad at the flood please :)03:03
rwwoh god, the PMing, forgot about that03:03
jumbers<__mikem> I don't really know what has elky's panties in a knot03:03
jumbers<jumbers> Because she already yelled at you once03:03
jumbers<__mikem> And i don't know what I did the first time either03:03
jumbers<__mikem> I wasn't spamming03:03
jumbers<__mikem> She wasn't around when I was cussing with *'s03:03
jumbers<jumbers> You went into a big outburst03:03
jumbers<__mikem> anyway bed time03:03
rwwHe PMs people with o4o comments all the time. Several people have PMs from him blocked because of this. I know it's outside your purview, but I feel it should factor into an evaluation of him.03:04
rwwjumbers: He complains to me about topyli too, with similar comments.03:05
jumbersrww: While I agree they aren't necessary, I also am not sure I agree that it should be considered because it's not something the ops have the ability to deal with. That would be similar to saying "You stole a car in France, so we're putting you in jail in the US for that"03:06
* rww shrugs03:07
FlannelIt does factor in.03:07
AmaranthYeah, looks like someone is going to have to talk to __mikem03:09
AmaranthPerhaps when more ops are hear ask him to come here03:10
jumbersI would guess elky would also want to see about this since she was the one who dealt with it yesterday03:10
rwwOkay, well I'm about to get distracted, and I know Flannel's busy, so I'll /part unless there was anything else :)03:12
jumbersI'm all for joking around, when it's somewhat obvious you're joking around. It's just that he does it unprovoked and completely randomly03:12
rwwand very frequently03:13
* Flannel notes that points have been made, and we'll do our best to police. I don't think sitting here discussing it furhter will help a whole lot03:13
Flannel(and yes, I'm now busy ;)03:13
rwwOkays then. Thanks everyone :)03:13
ubottuchuck_ called the ops in #ubuntu ()04:19
Flannelban evasion!04:20
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ubottuion_ called the ops in #ubuntu-devel ()05:50
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FlannelHi vertix, how can we help you today?07:11
Flannelvertix: If there's nothing we can assist you with at the moment, please part.  You're already aware of our no-idle policy.07:14
Seeker`Jussi01 Myrtti Pici Mez mneptok nalioth tritium: vertix is here again07:34
naliothSeeker`: yes, s/he is.07:35
naliothvertix: please part this channel07:36
Myrttijumbers: how can we help you today?07:37
* nalioth will not be removing this one so quickly08:01
ikoniathank you08:17
jussi01Morning ikonia08:25
ikoniamorning08:26
jussi01ikonia: did you end up gtting a decent sounding hi-hat? 08:29
ikoniaha, no08:30
jussi01doh!08:30
jussi01:D08:30
jussi01Im guessing you didnt have time to record for me either...08:30
ikoniadidn't get home until gone midnight08:31
ikoniavertix going nuts about bios level rootkits and how #ubuntu-ops have infected his machine 08:52
ikoniavery very funny08:52
ikoniahe's clearly insane08:52
Flannelikonia: Where?08:56
ikonia##security09:05
ikoniahe's stopped now09:05
ikoniaI joined after watching him ramble about nonsense bios root kits in #ubuntu-kernel, ##kernel and ##linux09:05
Myrttiargh09:16
FlannelMyrtti: you're the one saving kittens from crying!09:16
FlannelOh09:17
* Myrtti facepalms09:17
Flannelexcept not quite saved it seems09:17
Myrtti*sobsob*09:17
elkywhat ended up happening re:__mikem?09:24
elkyooh, did vertix get a k-ticket?09:25
Myrttino, really?!09:25
ikoniano09:34
ikoniastill active 09:34
elkyah, he's just banned from here?09:36
Myrttiyeah09:36
Myrttithank god09:36
ikoniayup, nal put a ban in place09:36
ikoniahis ranting in other channels make me think it's best to just forget about him for a hile09:37
ikoniahe's genuinly coming across as deluded09:37
elkyjust dont let anyone introduce him to moira.09:45
ubottujoot called the ops in #ubuntu ()09:54
elkynobody's given the status for __mikem yet...12:25
ikoniawhat status ?12:25
elkydid someone give him a slap around in PM?12:26
ikoniano idea12:26
MyrttiI've not touched him12:27
Myrttihaven't seen him active either though12:27
elkyMyrtti, he was active enough earlier in particular with his violent /me things to annoy someone enough to complain in here12:28
jussi01Bollocks...12:28
jussi01oh and Ive not spoken to mikem12:28
jussi01:)12:28
elkybollocks what?12:28
jussi01elky: sorry, was meant for a different channel... just things right now tho12:29
Myrttielky: s/active/active when I've been on IRC today/12:29
Myrttinot that I've looked that much on -ot, reinstalling my laptop is fairly time consuming12:30
MyrttiSAY WHAT?!12:41
Myrttignome-do comes with evolution as a dependency?!12:41
jussi01Myrtti: likely a recomends12:41
jussi01use --no-install-recommends ;)12:42
* jussi01 hates that...12:42
Myrttigood point12:42
Myrttiyou got me scared there12:43
* elky is tired and going for early sleepies12:51
* Pici waves12:52
Picielky: goodnight12:52
Myrttiso, I really *HAVE* to install evolution...13:05
Myrtti*Sigh*13:05
jussi01Doh!13:06
* Myrtti checks out gnome-launch-box13:07
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topyliMyrtti: gnome-do is not very useful anyway. use the deskbar13:28
topylioh but you would have to install the gnome-applet-xfce-applet, which might be too expensive :(13:29
MyrttiI just remapped ctrl-space to run xfrun :-(13:32
MyrttiI'm not happy with this13:32
Pici:[13:32
Myrttignome-launch-box feels really clunky and heavy even compared to gnome-do13:33
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MyrttiI must be doing something wrong13:33
Myrttioops, is it that late already13:33
ikoniahi jumbers 14:20
ikoniawhat's up ?14:20
jumbersI was wondering if anybody got the chance to look at the stuff rww and I were talking about in here yesterday14:21
ikoniawhich stuff ?14:21
ikoniathere was a lot talked about, refresh me14:21
jumbers__mikem14:21
ikoniayes, I believe people are dealing with the issue14:21
ikoniahas he been a problem again ?14:22
jumbersNope, I was just following up. I know elky wasn't around when we were saying it and she had been the one that dealt with it previously14:22
ikoniaI believe it is being resolved14:22
jumbersOkay, thanks14:22
ikoniano problem14:22
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jussi01ikonia: ping15:48
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mneptokyour meds?18:49
Seeker`mneptok: possibly the slowest joke ever?18:49
mneptokis that a challenge?18:50
Seeker`no18:50
PiciUrsinha-packing: It is, but changing your nick twice in a row to a different away status is still something we'd like to not see.19:00
Ursinha-packingPici, I'm asking because a friend of mine complained to me that someone did that !away warning to him when he changed his nick a while ago to nick-afk19:01
Ursinha-packingjust that, not simultaneous nick changes or the like19:01
PiciThere really should be no reason to chang your nick to set a status, thats what the away message system is for.19:02
PiciThat said, some operators and users define the notion of nickspam differently. 19:02
topylioh great tavish has his own channel for a sanctuary for trolls19:03
Ursinha-packingPici, that's why I asked19:03
Picitopyli: Are there really people in there, or was he just joking?19:03
Myrttitopyli: ugh19:03
topylihe said he created it long ago, but right now there's only one user19:03
jussi01!away19:04
ubottuYou should avoid noisy away messages in a busy channel like #ubuntu, or other Ubuntu channels; it causes excessive scrolling which is unfair to new users. Use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently.  See also «/msg ubottu Guidelines»19:04
topyli(which he just invited)19:04
Pici!-nickspam19:04
ubottunickspam has no aliases - added by ompaul on 2006-09-16 15:00:49 - last edited by LjL on 2008-10-29 20:40:4419:04
PiciI thought nickspam and away were aliases of each other.19:04
jussi01nickspam is different to !away19:04
jussi01status's should never be set in nicks.19:04
Myrttiok, so mikem is around again19:37
mneptokdid he get a new Mac or something? ;)19:37
LjLMyrtti: why, he got offended and left?19:38
MyrttiI have no idea19:38
Pici/lastlog says that the last time he spoke was about 14 hours ago.19:39
Myrttiwhat I know that there's been several requests in the last 24h to talk with him about his /me humps X19:39
Myrttiand whatever like19:39
LjLyeah, there have been. so go and talk with him :P19:39
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MyrttiLjL: me talking to him would be a bit weird since I wasn't there when the incident was hot and I've not really gotten ackquainted with his behaviour before19:44
Seeker`I thought that the suggestions where either a) elky talk to him or b) invite him here, and everyone talk to hom19:44
Seeker`*him19:44
MyrttiSeeker`: oh, didn't remember/see option b19:46
Seeker`Myrtti: I may have been making it up19:46
topyliheh19:47
MezMyrtti: I know you probably snuck some photos of me @ LRL - still have them?20:26
MyrttiMez: none apart the ones in Flickr20:27
* Mez goes and has a snoop and sees if he can find anything decent20:27
MezMyrtti: where's the LRL collection?20:28
Myrttihttp://www.flickr.com/photos/myrtti/sets/72157606376085042/20:29
Mezthankies :D20:30
* Mez hates pictures of himself20:30
Myrttiwhich is why all the pictures of yourself suck20:30
MezMyrtti: actually, I quite like the one you took of me... can I steals it ?20:31
MyrttiMez: cc-by-sa, use as you wish20:31
MyrttiI might have others but not as good as that one20:31
topylioh great now i'm in the middle of an argument whether or not stabbing is allowed on -ot20:32
MezMyrtti: shame it's not a higher res though :(20:33
topylii guess it is as long as ubottu does it20:34
Seeker`maybe ubottu shouldn't then20:34
topylior maybe it really is just fun and i'm wrong. dunno20:35
nickspoonIs anybody going to be offended?20:35
MezMyrtti: am I able to /msg you at the moment?20:35
Seeker`nickspoon: there have been complaints about __mikems stabbing etc.20:35
nickspoon"Oh my, somebody has stabbed me on the internet, I shall be writing a stern letter to the Telegraph."20:35
Seeker`and general violence20:35
Seeker`it may be difficult to say "don't do this" when ubottu does it as part of factoids20:35
nickspoon__mikem is a bit excessive, though.20:36
topylinickspoon: perhaps not. the other category is humping and licking20:36
topylino idea20:36
topyliwell mikem is another story20:36
Myrttigod my photos are a mess20:37
MezMyrtti: If possible, would it be ok to skip the "BY" in that licence? it's a bit hard to attribute what'll end up as about 1.5cm on a page :D20:37
MyrttiMez: sure20:38
MezMyrtti: *huggles* thankies :D I'll let you know if it gets used (though, with the cig, I doubt it will :'( damned art editors)20:38
Myrttilol, what happen to gthumb?20:38
Slartcan someone please give "ana" in #ubuntu a nudge towards the brazil channel ?20:39
Slartthanks20:40
PiciAmpelbein: How can we help you today?20:45
Ampelbeinhi. I think the !bug factoid should be updated to advice the use of "ubuntu-bug" instead of directly filing a bug on launchpad.20:46
PiciAmpelbein: You're free to make a suggestion. 20:46
PiciSee http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots on how to suggest factoids.20:47
AmpelbeinPici: ok, thanks.20:47
Ampelbeinbye20:47
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Pici!bugs20:55
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Pici!bugs > Ampelbein20:55
Ampelbeinhi again. Pici: i don't think that bugs.ubuntu.com should be the entry-point for bug reporters.20:56
PiciAmpelbein: Too confusing?20:56
AmpelbeinPici: i think so. the "report a bug" icon is rather small compared to the tag-list, the bug-list and so on.20:57
AmpelbeinPici: and for sorting out duplicates, launchpad has a neat search function when actually reporting a bug.20:58
PiciAmpelbein: Okay, I'll go ahead and change it. I was going for factoid shortness when I modfied the original20:59
Pici!bugs20:59
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AmpelbeinPici: thanks. i think that produces more valueable bug-reports.21:00
Ampelbeinhave a nice day/evening/night everyone.21:00
Piciyou too21:00
nickspoonWhy can't all users be like that? :(21:08
Picinickspoon: courteous and suggestive instead of mean and demanding?21:09
nickspoonPrecisely.21:10
LjLyeah, i f'ing demand that all users be like that. it's goddamn irritating and infringes on my freedom of speech when they're not. you're all losers.21:15
Tm_TLjL: don't let go the goat21:24
LjLmiyako wants a lart22:12
* Seeker` -> bed23:32
RxDxplase, any one can test me manually?23:50
LjLRxDx: yes23:53
LjLalthough i think the automatic one worked fine too23:54
LjLRxDx: failed23:54
RxDxLjL, failed why?23:54
LjLbecause you're still vulnerable. have you changed your port?23:55
RxDxim vulnerable cuz i able the DMZ option on my router?23:55
LjLno23:55
LjLat least i really don't think so23:55
RxDxok.. ill try to fix it. thanks23:56

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