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bruce_what does PITA mean?00:00
white_pelicanPain In The A$$00:01
bruce_oh00:01
Virkbruce_: you know, like kebab00:03
bruce_whats a kebab?00:04
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Virkhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kebab (northern african food, often called pita)00:05
bruce_oh yes I know about that00:05
justyuppita bread?00:05
bruce_yes, it's sold in stores here00:05
Virksilly joke :p00:06
bruce_ok, so does anyone know why kate and kpackagekit crash when I exet them? Is it a bug??00:08
bruce_exit00:08
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ShadozeDoes anyone know how to install the new openoffice in kubuntu jaunty, just when i try i gives me blocked updates for openoffice 3.100:12
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ralmarHey guys, I have a little concern. The only network-related app that I am running right now (apart from this irc client) is the Deluge bittorrent client. According to Deluge I am uploading at about 2.6 KB/s, but if I open the System Monitor, and go to the Resource tab, it says I am uploading at about between 7.7 and 16 KB/s (it fluctuates quite a bit). Why could this be? Could there be a nasty app or tro00:14
ralmarjan that is running and uploading files? Thanks00:14
sereanyone know a name of a good ftp server ...im trying to transfer files to my pda via wireless00:15
Mist_hmm.. seems  amarok mess upp /dev/dsp etc. and now sound stopped working in firefox youtube videos etc. Hmm or even all sound .00:18
invitehmmm dunno if it's the right place to ask but I'm under kubuntu after all00:20
inviteMy wlan switch is almost dead00:20
inviteso i bought an usb key to replace it00:20
invitebut I can't connect as long as the wlan adapter (an intel one using iwl3945)00:21
inviteis turned off !00:21
inviteto resume : I bought the usb adapter but can't use it as long as the builtin wlan switch is off!00:22
invitedmesg shows Kill switch must be turned off for wireless networking to work.00:23
Mist_hmm.. so when system tells sound device doesnt work after closing amarok and switching to side speakers.. only  option is to reboot or restart process in 9.04?00:24
Mist_(why does the sound always have to work this crappy for in GNU/Linux =/ )00:24
alexshenoyokay anybody running jaunty having problems installing the 4.3 beta00:25
JontheEchidnaproblems? Of what nature?00:25
alexshenoylike it wont install00:25
alexshenoyill pastebin it00:25
JontheEchidnathat would be useful :)00:26
alexshenoyhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/175267/00:26
alexshenoytoday has been a killer and im kinda running short on patience00:27
alexshenoy:-/ not good, i know, but its just getting annoying00:27
JontheEchidnaoops, forgot to push that fix to the PPA...00:27
JontheEchidnain the meantime00:27
JontheEchidnasudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-runtime-data_4%3a4.2.85-0ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa6_all.deb && sudo apt-get install -f00:28
ralmarAnyone know how I can see what process is making a certain connection. I know the local and remote ports and the remote ip.thanks00:28
alexshenoyJontheEchidna: http://paste.ubuntu.com/175270/ still having problems :-(00:29
JontheEchidnaalexshenoy: ok, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade now00:30
JontheEchidnathat should hopefully correct itself now00:31
alexshenoyokay. looks to be working. thanks man. really appreciate it00:31
yaris123456789hey guys i need to get and install PyKDE 3 and PyQt 3 + KDE libs. can someone help ?00:32
alexshenoynope00:32
JontheEchidnaalexshenoy: I believe python-kde3 and python-qt3 are the packages you want00:33
JontheEchidnaer00:33
JontheEchidnayaris123456789: ^00:33
JontheEchidnasorry about that alex00:33
alexshenoyhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/175272/00:34
JontheEchidnaanyway, I uploaded the fix for that kdebase-runtime-data bug. Once that builds nobody should run in to that particular problem again00:34
* JontheEchidna looks at the new one00:34
JontheEchidnaalexshenoy: similar solution, sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite name_of_all_the_debs_go_here00:37
yaris123456789btw, what is X display? how do i know if i need to install xvfb00:38
JontheEchidnahmm, but why is it doing that? ksysguard is already a replacement for kdebase-workspace-bin from KDE 4.2...00:38
JontheEchidnaquite puzziling00:38
JontheEchidna*puzzling00:38
JontheEchidnaoh, I modified the replaces version for the ksysguardd package, not the ksysguard one, silly me :/00:39
JontheEchidnaalexshenoy: by the way, would you mind pasting the whole log? The one you pasted only had the actual error for the ksysguard deb00:39
alexshenoyfrom the last error?00:40
JontheEchidnayeah, from the last error. Several packages failed to install but the only actual error that I can see is from ksysguard00:41
JontheEchidnathe errors appear in the log as they occur, then dpkg reports all packages that failed at the end00:41
alexshenoyJontheEchidna: http://paste.ubuntu.com/175277/00:42
JontheEchidnagreat, thanks00:42
alexshenoyno problem00:43
alexshenoythanks00:43
serewhats a good ftp server /w a gui00:47
desusere: server with a gui?00:49
desuO_o00:49
desuo_O00:49
desulol...00:49
desuhmm... there might be one... but none that i'm aware of :/00:49
Zoraelserv-u flashbacks from ~97. :300:50
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ActionParsnipsere: proftpd will lock users to their home directorys if you like, its simple to setup00:54
ActionParsnipsere: no need for a silly gui which isnt really advised on a server00:54
ActionParsnipsere: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/settingup-an-ftp-server-on-ubuntu-with-proftpd.html00:55
ActionParsnipsere: this is a better guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5161100:56
sereActionParsnip: ty01:02
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ActionParsnipsere: np, its easy stuff dude. no need for a gui, plus you can configure it via ssh01:04
robin0800Temp? fix foe wpa bug Launchpad bug 378145 in plasma-widget-network-manager "plasma widget networkmanager couldn't connect wpa"01:07
ubuntuola01:30
ubuntuquero saber agumas coisas ?01:31
desu!it01:32
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)01:32
Pici!br | ubuntu01:33
ubottuubuntu: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Obrigado.01:33
ubuntudeixa eu falar a minha lingua por favor porque tenho que falar sua ?01:34
Taggnostrhello01:38
ActionParsnip!es | ubuntu01:38
ubottuubuntu: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.01:38
TaggnostrI dist-upgraded and I'm having several issues with kde401:38
Taggnostrfor example I can't resize any window01:38
ActionParsnipTaggnostr: does it happen with all users01:39
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TaggnostrI only have one user01:39
ActionParsnipTaggnostr: make another01:40
ActionParsnipTaggnostr: you can have multiple users on one computer01:40
TaggnostrI can toggle the fullscreen, but when I try to drag a corner or a side it just doesn't work01:40
TaggnostrActionParsnip, I know, can I create one, try it and then deleted it without logging off from here?01:41
ActionParsnipTaggnostr: i dont think so, you'll have to log off then log on as the new user01:41
ActionParsnip!adduser01:42
ubottuTo add new users to your Ubuntu system, follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto - For administrative privileges, users need to be made members of the group "admin" - See !sudo01:42
Taggnostrand also, what is that button on the top-left of the windows, in the titlebar?01:42
Taggnostris there some page that summarizes the changes introduces by kde4?01:43
ActionParsnip!changes01:45
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about changes01:45
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younixkde 4.3 beta 1 is avialable01:49
younixUnpacking replacement kdebase-runtime-data ...01:50
younixdpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-runtime-data_4%3a4.2.85-0ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa7_all.deb (--unpack):01:50
younix trying to overwrite `/usr/share/kde4/apps/kstyle/themes/oxygen.themerc', which is also in package kde-icons-oxygen01:50
younixit gives me that error :S01:50
ActionParsnipyounix: you could force the deb install which will overwrite the identical file with the one in the package01:51
younixhow do i do that?01:51
younixi have already try apt-get -f dist-upgrade01:51
ActionParsnipyounix: sudo dpkg --force-all -i /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-runtime-data_4%3a4.2.85-0ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa7_all.deb01:51
XVampireXHi01:51
XVampireXI'm having the same problem, lol01:52
ActionParsnipcan you submit a bug for the file overwrite issue01:53
XVampireXDamn it's called dependency hell :D01:59
XVampireXbrb01:59
ActionParsnipThere is a reason its beta btw, its going to be buggy and crash a lot02:01
desuooo fix has been released :D02:01
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serehey all02:07
ActionParsniphi sere02:07
desuhi sere~~~~~~~02:07
sereanyone have any knowledge with proftpd i keep getting a 530 login incorrect and not sure y i think im intering in everything right02:08
seredesu. im loving that script :)02:08
desuthere's a slight problem with that script :P02:08
desuit'll break for all files with have spaces or some other special characters in the name...02:08
desuso, replace $x with "$x" everywhere02:09
sere10/4 ty ")02:09
desusorry, didn't think of special characters earlier02:09
sereno worries im happy its just working02:10
sereas soon as i get proftp to work i can transfer movies to my ipaq :)02:10
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tsukasa__hello how i know the vertion of my desktop02:15
Dragnslcrtsukasa__- Version of Kubuntu? Of KDE?02:17
tsukasa__Dragnslcr: i have  kubuntu 9.0.402:18
DragnslcrOkay, so what are you looking for?02:19
tsukasa__but ithis kde have to much bugs02:19
tsukasa__must of things are graphic02:19
tsukasa__so a friend tell me thatt change the kde to a previus ver02:19
tsukasa__but how  i can do that?02:20
DragnslcrCheck Help -> About in most KDE programs02:20
Dragnslcr(K Menu -> Help is a good one to check)02:20
tsukasa__Versión 4.2.2 (KDE 4.2.2)02:21
DragnslcrYup, that's the one that comes with Kubuntu 9.0402:22
tsukasa__how i change to a  one more stable02:22
tsukasa__cause this one have a lot of bugs02:22
DragnslcrYou can try installing 4.2.302:23
Dragnslcrhttp://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2.302:24
AlexZionyeah , probably is much better.... I'm using it and it looks to be more stable...02:24
tsukasa__i just use the sofftware package02:26
tsukasa__or there is any comand line  tto installed?02:27
Taggnostris there a way to set a gradient as background on kde4?02:27
Taggnostrthere's only image, slideshow and color. if I select color I can specify only one single color02:28
tsukasa__in the update software dont appear the update for he desktop02:29
sucimmm02:31
Dragnslcrtsukasa__- http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2.302:33
tsukasa__:S i screw the kpackagekit02:34
tsukasa__i get an error now that say you must rebuild the package cahe list this must be do it auto by <<backend>>02:37
tsukasa__Package cache could not be opened02:40
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tsukasahow i fix the package sofware kit the cachelist02:55
katiehi all03:04
katiesilly question: what does system/preferences/sound mean in jaunty?03:04
DragnslcrNo clue03:07
FoorOk KDE People im a huge gnome fan but i have to say this new kubuntu is one hell of a neat desktop03:07
katieoh man it is03:08
user_hello03:08
user_can i get support here for 8.04? i would like someone to spend 5 min with me regarding tquid03:09
user_!help03:11
ubottuHi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots03:11
user_hello?03:12
user_can someone moderator tell me what i can do to get someone to assit?03:12
Piciuser_: You may want to try asking in #ubuntu as well, seeing as #kubuntu is not very active tonight.03:13
DragnslcrFirst step is usually to ask a question03:13
DragnslcrYeah, I was about to say that there aren't many people around right now03:13
user_ah ok03:13
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user_QUESTION:  I have set up the squid proxy server, and get an error. conf file has only 2 lines in it...03:16
user_i get error bungled squid.conf line 3 http_access deny all  however this is not even in the conf file. in conf file  is LINE 1 http_port 8888 LINE 2 visible_hostname squ. These are the only 2 lines in file.03:20
user_file located at /etc/squid/squid.conf03:20
wizardslovakcan i install .jar on kubuntu??03:23
DragnslcrI don't think .jar files install03:24
DragnslcrI thought they just ran through Java03:24
wizardslovakhow to install java tho?03:28
jkellsHi, is the network management applet that comes with kubuntu provided by kubuntu or is it from kde upstream?03:28
jkellsI just switched to an svn build of kde and there doesn't seam to be any way of configuring a wireless network03:29
jkellsLooks like there is a network-manager applet in playground but not in kde itself03:29
Dragnslcr!java | wizardslovak03:37
ubottuwizardslovak: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre or sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu !Dapper03:37
wizardslovaki got java but i still wont be able to install .jar03:37
DragnslcrIf you right-click the .jar and go to Open With, one of the options should be for a Java runtime03:40
navetz_guys my digital camera records videos that are extreamly large, is there a way i can make them smaller without losing to much quality?03:41
Dragnslcrnavetz_- sure, but I can't think of the name of a program offhand. Google could probably give you names if you search for something like "kde video editor"03:43
navetz_Dragnslcr:okay thanks03:44
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Dragnslcrnavetz_- I just did a quick search of the package list, and I know kdenlive is one I've heard of03:45
fornixi installed kubuntu-desktop on to of ubuntu and now i have kde and gnome both. I have logged into kde. The compiz effects don't seem to work. is compiz compatible with kde or do i have to stay with kwin. or does kwin support compiz like effects. I want the cube feature.03:46
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navetz_Dragnslcr: yea i found it, I am installing now thanks :D03:46
Dragnslcrfornix- KDE4 does its own compositing, so you don't normally need compiz03:46
dyn0myt3i m new, but if u have compiz you also need qt and designer, from what  i have read03:47
fornixDragnslcr: so how do i enable the features like desktop cube and fire while minimizing, etc03:47
Dragnslcrdyn0myt3- sorry, that doesn't make much sense. Compiz and Qt have little to do with each other03:47
dyn0myt3hm03:48
Dragnslcrfornix- System Settings -> Desktop has the advanced effects03:48
Dragnslcrfornix- unfortunately, kwin doesn't have the burn effect yet03:48
fornixDragnslcr: does it have wobbly windows?03:49
Dragnslcrfornix- yup03:49
fornixoh cool. found it under System Settings -> Desktop -> All effects03:50
DragnslcrThere's some pretty neat stuff in there03:50
DragnslcrI do miss my blue burn though03:50
wizardslovaki got problem with wine03:52
wizardslovaki cant browse c drive03:52
fornixDragnslcr: thanks for the help. i got my much awaited desktop cube.03:53
Dragnslcrfornix- one thing I learned is that the default layout for the desktops is 2x2, and it seems that the only way to change that is with the Pager plasmoid03:55
corigoWhat is the name of the non 3g NTFS driver that uses the actual MS ntfs.sys file?04:04
kalorinhhe04:05
kalorinquassel irc/04:05
kalorinthat 's new04:05
kalorininteresting04:06
kalorinah yes, sweet sweet konversation :)04:07
luis_alguem sabe me informar como posso fazer minha placa sis funcionar 3d no kubuntu 9.0404:08
luis_alguem sabe me informar como posso fazer minha placa sis funcionar 3d no kubuntu 9.0404:08
Dragnslcr!es | luis_04:08
ubottuluis_: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.04:08
luis_thanks04:09
Bold`hello04:09
keyser_sozedate05:01
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corigoAlternate NTFS system to 3g?05:12
eagles0513875!fuser | corigo05:18
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about fuser05:18
eagles0513875!info fuser | corigo05:18
ubottucorigo: Package fuser does not exist in jaunty05:18
eagles0513875!ntfs05:19
ubottuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE05:19
eagles0513875corigo: ^^05:19
corigo!fuse05:20
ubottuFUSE (Filesystem in Userspace) is a !kernel driver that allows non-root users to create their own filesystems. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_in_Userspace for more on FUSE.  Some examples of filesystems that use FUSE are !ntfs-3g, sshfs and isofs. A full list of Filesystems that use FUSE is here:  http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FileSystems05:20
corigoeagles0513875: the answer I was looking for was captive ntfs. Project is no longer active and doesn't support 64bit. ntfs-3g is really the only viable option right now, but it doesn't support ntfs jounaling05:25
eagles0513875:(05:25
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infinity_hello05:48
infinity_I've gotten myself into trouble with my Kubuntu05:48
infinity_I had an Nvidia 6600GT installed and everything was fine05:49
infinity_But then I put a HD3850 in and made a bit of a mess of things I think05:49
infinity_I changed my xorg to "vesa" so I could get KDE up05:49
infinity_but it was very slow and never really got me to the desktop properly05:50
infinity_I could get a bash prompt so I installed fgrlx05:50
infinity_I didn't remove the nvidia driver first05:50
infinity_Then when things still werent working I decided I'd try again tomorrow... I changed my xorg back to nvidia and put my 6600 back in05:51
infinity_Of course it still has fgrlx05:51
infinity_now I'm totally stuffed05:51
eagles0513875infinity_: i kinda had an issue similar to yours05:51
infinity_Doesn't matter which card I use now... I can't even get to a bash prompt05:52
eagles0513875i used a newer nvidia driver for my 8800gt with out uninstalling the old borked my whole x grated i could get to a bash prompt05:52
infinity_(I'm typing this from work)05:52
eagles0513875for me i ended up doing a clean install05:52
infinity_If I could get a bash prompt I think I can fix it from there05:52
infinity_but if I cant get a prompt I'm pretty much screwed05:53
infinity_Well... I guess I can back up some stuff to another drive and reinstall05:53
eagles0513875can you ssh into the rig05:53
infinity_I can boot a live cd on it05:54
infinity_I'm at work, and its not powered on atm anyway.05:54
eagles0513875you can try it that was also try and ssh from another machine onto it05:55
infinity_I guess that might work05:55
infinity_I've never done ssh05:55
infinity_But if I can get into it with a prompt then I figure I can fix my xorg and remove the nvidia and fgrlx drivers... and maybe I can get things up and running05:56
eagles0513875infinity_: on a windows machine you will need a program called putty which will allow you to ssh onto the machine05:56
infinity_yes we have putty05:57
eagles0513875question becomes are you on a static or dynamic ip06:00
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tsimpsoninfinity_: just boot into rescue mode to get a root shell06:10
dylan_how do I get klauncher in xubuntu 9.04 ?06:13
infinity_tsimpson: is there a keyboard shortcut for that ?06:13
tsimpsoninfinity_: you choose it at boot, from grub06:13
infinity_tsimpson: really ?06:13
tsimpsoninfinity_: hold down escape while grub is loading and you'll get a menu06:13
infinity_oooh06:14
tsimpsonyou'll see an option to boot into "rescue mode"06:14
infinity_you might have saved my life :D06:14
eagles0513875dylan_: please ask in #xubuntu06:14
infinity_tsimpson: from there, if I remove fgrlx and the nvidia driver, then use a generic xorg backup I should be ok then right ?06:15
tsimpsoninfinity_: should be, just type "exit" when you're done and it'll boot into normal graphical mode06:16
infinity_tsimpson: thanks !06:16
infinity_tsimpson: I'll try this when I get home... I might even get that HD3850 up and running after all06:16
infinity_On the slowness issue: has anyone else had problems with the HD 3850 ?06:17
infinity_fgrlx is supposed to support it I think06:17
infinity_but it was wierd06:17
infinity_!fgrlx06:18
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about fgrlx06:18
infinity_umm06:18
tsimpson!ati06:18
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:18
infinity_!ati06:18
infinity_thanks tsimpson, I really wanted to rescue my system rather than have to reinstall06:19
tsimpson!fglrx is <alias> binarydriver06:19
ubottuBut fglrx already means something else!06:19
tsimpsonummk06:19
eagles0513875haha stupid bot06:20
infinity_lol06:20
tsimpsonno, stupid me reading, !fgrlx is not !fglrx06:20
infinity_this is wierd06:20
tsimpsonthe bot never lies, unless I tell it to06:20
infinity_Im on this system tha thas onboard graphics06:20
infinity_I'm convinced they suck (nvidia 7025)06:20
infinity_But if I try glxgears06:21
infinity_I'm getting higher frames than on the 6600GT at home... but I swear the 6600 is much smoother, no frame droppage and things06:21
tsimpsonglxgears is not a benchmark tool06:21
infinity_ok06:21
tsimpsonit doesn't represent real world results06:22
infinity_ah k06:22
Iowahchello there, got the .ICEauthority problem. tells me no write access, after each restart I have to manually chmod the file, how do I set it permanently?06:22
infinity_thanks for the help guys... I better go do some work ;)06:22
ryan_hey06:27
Iowahchello there, got the .ICEauthority problem. tells me no write access, after each restart I have to manually chmod the file, how do I set it permanently?06:28
ryan_huh/06:29
navetz__where are the ffmpeg on my system?06:41
Iowahchello there, got the .ICEauthority problem. tells me no write access, after each restart I have to manually chmod the file, how do I set it permanently?06:42
Iowahchello there, got the .ICEauthority problem. tells me no write access, after each restart I have to manually chmod the file, how do I set it permanently?06:49
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Iowahchello there, got the .ICEauthority problem. tells me no write access, after each restart I have to manually chmod the file, how do I set it permanently?07:01
Iowahchello there, got the .ICEauthority problem. tells me no write access, after each restart I have to manually chmod the file, how do I set it permanently?07:06
carolus_Hello to all07:19
ultrateki cannot login to swat via firefox as root07:34
ultratekor how do i do it?07:34
prestonhow stable is 9.04, is kde 4 good to go now?07:37
xp-killergood night07:38
xp-killeranyone here?07:38
prestonim having a frustrating time with mandy 2009.1 and flash and i think from the dvd oive installed the 64 bit version but im not sure how that happened07:38
xp-killeri want to know how to copy dvd's on kubuntu07:39
infinity_preston: yes :)_07:43
infinity_xp-killer: If you want to make backups of DVD movies use K9Copy07:44
infinity_!K9Copy07:44
prestoninfinity_: thanks, to hell with this mandy install07:44
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:44
prestonkubuntu here i come07:44
siriusbhi all07:49
siriusbdoes somebody know how to add a date condition in Kmail / Find messages?07:50
Martin-KangBlomHi, there is a bug in the kde 4.3 beta 1 package at least for jaunty, Unpacking kdepim-kresources (from .../kdepim-kresources_4%3a4.2.85-0ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa5_amd64.deb) ...07:54
Martin-KangBlomdpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdepim-kresources_4%3a4.2.85-0ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa5_amd64.deb (--unpack):07:54
Martin-KangBlom trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libkcal_resourceremote.so.4.3.0', which is also in package libkdepim407:54
Martin-KangBlomSelecting previously deselected package kde-icons-oxygen.07:54
Martin-KangBlomUnpacking kde-icons-oxygen (from .../kde-icons-oxygen_4%3a4.2.85-0ubuntu2~jaunty1~ppa2_all.deb) ...07:54
Martin-KangBlomdpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-icons-oxygen_4%3a4.2.85-0ubuntu2~jaunty1~ppa2_all.deb (--unpack):07:54
Martin-KangBlom trying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/oxygen/16x16/status/meeting-organizer.png', which is also in package libkdepim407:54
Martin-KangBlomcurrently, launchpad is not really available that is why I tried it here07:55
p-fsound plays fine when I use mplayer or flash, but when using Amarok or any KDE-related applications, I get "The audio playback device HDA Intel Sigmatel STAC9200 does not work. Falling back to default." What could be causing this?07:59
jussi01!paste | Martin-KangBlom08:01
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ajohnsendoes the current kopete msn support lack webcam?08:02
Mamarok_has somebody here already tested KDE 4.3 beta?08:03
jussi01Mamarok_: Im on it08:04
Mamarok_jussi01: issues?08:04
p-fjussi01: does it support tiling yet?08:05
jussi01Mamarok_: a few curerntly - as Martin-KangBlom mentioned a few mixed up files in packages, but JontheEchidna is fixing those08:05
Mamarok_Martin-KangBlom: you can override this with dpkg --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/kdepim-kresources_4%3a4.2.85-0ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa5_amd64.deb08:05
jussi01p-f: what exactly do you mean by that?08:05
Mamarok_jussi01: besides the packaging I mean :)08:05
p-fjussi01: automatically laying windows out in a grid-like fashion08:06
p-fjussi01: it's more or less the only thing keeping me away from KDE08:07
Mamarok_jussi01: never mind, just found the answer :)08:07
Mamarok_p-f: that works since ages... with desktop effects08:08
Mamarok_p-f: you mean the windos tiles like in Windows actually?08:08
Mamarok_+w08:08
p-fMamarok_: I mean tiles like in a tiling window manager08:09
rodrigohi08:09
p-fMamarok_: splits your screen into regions - windows automatically fill them up when placed in them08:09
Mamarok_p-f: ok, well, KDE never did that AFAIK08:09
p-fMamarok_: I'd be happy with keyboard shortcuts to resize windows to a preset % of the screen + move them to a preset corner, but it's hilariously painful to set up properly even though it shouldn't08:10
p-f(like winsplit revolution on windows)08:11
p-fI found a few posts that explain how to do it in a few different ways, but they were all buggy in their own way08:11
Mamarok_p-f: KDE has many other advantages, and in the 9+ Years I use KDE I never missed that feature...08:12
p-fMamarok_: I usually work with 10+ windows opened - having to place them by hand is incredibly tedious08:13
Mamarok_p-f: keaboard shortcuts and desktops? put one window per desktop and switch with shortcuts?08:14
p-fMamarok_: I want to view more than one at once08:14
Mamarok_p-f: putting 10+ windows in a grid sounds... strange, unless you have a 40" screen or so08:15
Mamarok_p-f: then put 2 windows in a desktop and...08:15
* Mamarok_ gives up08:15
p-fMamarok_: I usually split my screen in 3 - one large vertical band + 2 small ones on the right... the windows go in tabs08:15
Mamarok_p-f: file a whish to bugs.kde.org08:15
Mamarok_p-f: or use FWM or such08:16
p-fMamarok_: well, I use ion right now08:16
p-fMamarok_: I was just giving KDE a shot today to see if it was any better than the last time I used it (~3.x)08:16
Mamarok_p-f: KDE is not a Window Manager, it is a Desktop experience, maybe different from what you are used to, but not everybody uses a computer the same way08:17
Mamarok_p-f: "better" is not very objective, it's just your opinion because it doesn't do what *you* want it to do, so....08:17
p-fMamarok_: obviously08:17
faileasMamarok: desktop environment actually08:18
p-fMamarok_: although there are objective measures of better, like "sound works", "doesn't clutter my terminal with debug output" and so forth ;p08:18
Mamarok_faileas: and a new Desktop Experience too IMHO08:18
Mamarok_it's a different way to work, using activities, etc08:18
p-fI love how most of their libraries completely ignore the settings from kdebugdialog08:18
Mamarok_p-f: are you a developer?08:19
p-fMamarok_: in general?08:19
Mamarok_then help, else your comments are of no use IMHO08:19
Mamarok_file bugs objectively and contribute, but what you do is just bashing, still IMHO08:20
p-fI do usually help with opensource projects that have things that annoy me, but right now is not a good time for me to get into another project08:20
Mamarok_right...08:20
TaggnostrI have a disk with windows xp on it but it doesn't boot anymore, with a live cd I can see the two partitions but I can't access them. is there something that I can do? something like chkdsk or similar08:20
p-funless you feel like doing my lab reports08:20
* Mamarok_ just wonders why users always expect miracles in a desktop project with several hundred thousand lines of code...08:22
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Assurbanipalhi guys, i tried to make my self a birthday present - kde 4,3 but unfortunatelly didn't wok. i got some errors while upgrading, rebooted and tried to rebuild repos and now i cannot enter kde!i only see a black screen!09:04
Assurbanipalcan somebody please help?? i am on kubuntu 9,04 64 bit09:06
Assurbanipalhi guys, i tried to make my self a birthday present - kde 4,3 but unfortunatelly didn't wok. i got some errors while upgrading, rebooted and tried to rebuild repos and now i cannot enter kde!i only see a black screen!can someone pls help fix it?09:13
embraceunityAssurbanipal: try going into console and typing sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop09:17
embraceunityaptitude sometimes will correct errors09:18
Assurbanipalit doesnt work, it showed the kde loading screen, but now it is like before only a black screen with the cursor09:21
Assurbanipalembraceunity: are you here mate?09:23
embraceunityyes09:23
embraceunitytry ctrl+alt+f109:23
embraceunitythen go into console09:23
embraceunityand try sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop09:23
Assurbanipali did it09:24
Assurbanipalbut still the same as i said before09:24
embraceunityoh09:24
embraceunitywhat happens when you press alt+f2?09:24
embraceunitydoes the run dialog show?09:24
Assurbanipalno, i am in terminal as normal09:24
embraceunityoh09:24
Assurbanipalis it possible it needs my graphics driver to be reinstalled for some reason?09:25
embraceunityctrl+alt+f7 gets you back to KDE09:25
Assurbanipalys i know, but it doesnt work09:25
embraceunitykde doesnt affect the graphics driver much09:25
Assurbanipalso what else can i do?09:26
embraceunitybroken installs are common.... sometimes aptitude -f install will get the packages you need09:27
Assurbanipalit gave me some errors09:28
embraceunitypastebin the errors09:28
Assurbanipali cannot!09:28
embraceunityright09:28
Assurbanipalhow could i do that?i cannot enter graphics environment!09:28
Assurbanipalit sais subprosses /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)09:29
Assurbanipalplasma-scriptengines depends on plasma-scriptengine-python09:30
embraceunitytry uninstalling those09:30
embraceunityand reinstalling them09:30
Assurbanipalhow?09:30
Assurbanipalremove python?09:31
embraceunitywhatever thing it is ultimately depending upon, yea09:31
embraceunityif there is a version conflict09:31
embraceunityremove the program09:31
embraceunityand it will remove the thing which installed it in the first place09:32
Assurbanipalsudo apt-get remove python ?09:32
embraceunitysudo apt-get remove plasma-scriptengine-python09:32
embraceunityperhaps09:32
Mamarokembraceunity: yes09:32
Assurbanipalgives me an error, Unmet dependancies09:33
Assurbanipali tried apt-get -f install but nothing09:33
MamarokAssurbanipal: try again, but removing plasma-scriptengines09:34
Assurbanipalthe same09:34
MamarokAssurbanipal: what does sudo dpkg --configure -a?09:34
Assurbanipalgives me the same errors09:35
MamarokAssurbanipal: did you get a 'cannot override' error earlier?09:35
Assurbanipalit sais kdebase-workspace-bin has unmet dependancies09:36
Assurbanipaland then follow more errors09:36
MamarokAssurbanipal: looks like there are some packages you miss then, try sudo apt-get update09:37
Mamarokmybe those have not been loaded in the cache09:37
Assurbanipali did countles times09:37
embraceunityisn't there a sudo apt-get update --fix-missing09:37
embraceunitytry that09:37
QrawlHow do you run .py files from Dolphin09:37
MamarokAssurbanipal: well, the build server is quite busy at the moment, maybe waiting a few more hours could help09:38
MamarokQrawl: right click ->open with gives you something?09:38
QrawlMamarok, then what09:38
MamarokQrawl: you shoud have options there, which options do you get?09:39
Qrawlpython and jar files arent associated09:39
Qrawltheres no Python option09:39
MamarokQrawl: are those files executable?09:39
embraceunitytry typing "py" into the textbox in the Open With dialog09:39
embraceunityusuall in console py files are run with py filename.py09:39
Qrawlok, I tried python before09:39
embraceunityi think09:39
Assurbanipali did again sudo apt-get update and then suod ap-t-get upgrade and it sais that kdebase-workspace-bin depends on kdebase-workspace-data09:39
Assurbanipaland more errors follow09:39
QrawlI'll try py this time09:39
Qrawlpy doest work09:40
embraceunityassurbanipal: did sudo apt-get update --fix-missing do anything?09:40
MamarokAssurbanipal: as I said, the build server is still running, you are in the middle of an upgrade of the repositories, patience09:40
MamarokAssurbanipal: that's why there is a "beta" tag BTW09:40
MamarokQrawl: make your files executable with chmod +x09:41
Assurbanipalso what do i do?i stay with no kde while waiting?09:41
QrawlMamarok, it is already09:41
MamarokAssurbanipal: upgrading to a beta release is allways at risk...09:41
Assurbanipal:S09:41
QrawlI'll ask in #KDE. somethings messed up09:41
Qrawli cant run .jar files either09:42
QrawlI can do it with the terminal and Nautilus though09:42
Assurbanipalso there isn't anything i can do??just wait until beta becomes stable?09:42
embraceunityQrawl: http://ubuntuforums.org/sho09:42
MamarokQrawl: file association is missing then, you can set those easily09:42
embraceunityQrawl: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22014209:42
digitalpsykoanyone know an alternative to kpowersave, have a new e6400 and cpu scaling isnt supported.09:43
QrawlI know how to associate09:43
Qrawlbut setting it to python doesnt work09:43
MamarokAssurbanipal: no, just wait till the build server has finished uploading everything09:43
QrawlIm not a noob at all09:43
QrawlI know how to do most things09:43
breassHi09:43
Assurbanipalwhich is expected to be later today??or...???09:43
MamarokAssurbanipal: I can't tell you, it sure takes hours sometimes09:44
embraceunitybreass: hi09:44
Qrawlembraceunity, ok ty09:44
Qrawlembraceunity, that only tells how to run from console09:44
Assurbanipaland what will i need to do then?just sudo apt-get update | sudo apt-get upgrade ??09:44
embraceunityQrawl: the end of the thread explains how to make links09:45
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embraceunityQrawl: but i suppose that isn't what you want09:45
Qrawlno09:45
embraceunityqrawl: haha that last person on the thread, woli, has your some issue09:46
embraceunitysame*09:46
embraceunitydamn09:46
MamarokAssurbanipal: yes09:46
breassHow can I configure Microsoft PPTP in plasmoid NetworkManager for KDE4?09:46
Qrawlyeah09:46
breassIf I can09:47
Assurbanipalcan't i just go back to kde 4,2 ?09:47
Mamarokbreass: what is Microsoft PPTP?09:47
MamarokAssurbanipal: only with a reinstall09:47
breassMamarok: VPN09:47
embraceunityassurbanipal: that would require removing the repo, deleting all of KDE, and then sudo apt-get update09:47
embraceunitythen reinstall everything09:47
Assurbanipalnot an option... will it be fixed for sure later today?09:48
MamarokAssurbanipal: told you, I don't know, it depends on the build server...09:48
MamarokAssurbanipal: just try again a few times09:48
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FanfareQ: where to report brocken links on kde.org?10:12
lokaiUm, why the hell does kdevelop insist on tabbing when I press enter?10:13
lokaiand how do I stop that behavior10:13
lokaijesus10:13
Mamaroklokai: settings?10:16
ActionParsnipyo yo yo10:16
lokaiCan't find it10:16
lokaiI've seen plenty of options for indentation10:16
lokaibut can't find the behavior10:16
Mamaroklokai: sry, I don't use kdevelop10:18
lokaiI can understand why10:18
lokaiits useless.10:18
Mamaroklokai: tried QtCreator?10:18
lokaiNo10:18
Mamaroklokai: "useless" is not true, I know enough devs who use it10:18
lokaiWhy would anyone in their right mind put that as a default behavior --> line breaks cause indents10:19
lokaiSo if I hold enter my cursor moves to the bottom right of the screen10:19
lokaisrsly10:19
altrortlakubuntu supports 64bit CPU processor???10:19
tsimpsonyes10:19
tsimpson!64bit10:19
ubottuAMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/3jkole and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amd64 for more information.10:19
Mamarokaltrortla: it would be totally outdated if it didn't...10:20
tsimpsonlinux has had support for 64bit long before intel or amd made any 64bit chips10:22
Mamaroktsimpson: the default windows still ships 32bit, and you have to move heaven and hell to get a 54bit version...10:23
lokaiyeah, I bet ;P10:24
altrortlaCPU is Core 2 Duo E8400 Socket 775 Box... it is new enought?10:24
altrortla:-)10:24
Mamaroks/54/64...10:25
altrortlathank you guys...10:25
Mamarok...and gals...10:25
altrortlasure10:26
ActionParsnipaltrortla: it'll run fine10:26
ActionParsnipaltrortla: linux doesnt need a big powerful cpu as the system overhead is very small10:27
darkhamsomeone with quassel?10:27
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Mamarok!ask | darkham10:27
ubottudarkham: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)10:27
darkhamwhy quassel are so slowly to open channels?10:29
darkhami've a wait sometimes of 1-2 minutes to open channels10:30
ActionParsnipdarkham: make sure you are on the latest version. If so, log a bug10:30
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benishorhello all. did anybody manage to make knetwork manager actually work in jaunty ?10:52
Tm_Tbenishor: some people yes10:52
benishorTm_T : what's the key ?10:52
benishorit's very frustrating having it there and not working :(10:53
Tm_Tbenishor: dunno, it just works?10:53
ActionParsnipbenishor: ive never had it working so i ditched it10:54
benishorActionParsnip: what did you replace it with ?10:55
ActionParsnipbenishor: /etc/network/interfaces files10:56
ActionParsnipbenishor: old school10:56
ActionParsnipbenishor: no stupid quirks in software to get all confused. nice and easy10:56
benishorI'm doing that aswell at the moment.. thought there is an alternative10:56
ActionParsnipbenishor: not advised for the new to linux10:56
ActionParsnipbenishor: "works for me" is all i can say10:57
ActionParsnipbenishor: theres wifi-radar10:57
benishorthank you ActionParsnip10:57
ActionParsnip!info wifi-radar10:57
ubottuwifi-radar (source: wifi-radar): graphical utility for managing Wi-Fi profiles. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.9.9-1.1 (jaunty), package size 38 kB, installed size 232 kB10:57
benishorthank you10:58
ActionParsnipnp man10:59
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vblantonhey, is anyone here not currently in the united states?11:18
Tm_Tvblanton: most of us, why asking?11:19
vblantonit seems that kmuddy.com (the KDE mud client) website is inaccessible from outside the states, and I wanted to test if anyone can successfully surf there.11:19
vblantonI, from Russia, cannot access the site (get a "cannot find the server" error11:19
Tm_Tnot accessible11:20
vblantonwhere are you located?11:20
shoebillI tried and I can reach it (located in Germany)11:20
vblantonthanks shoebill, Tm_T where are you located?11:21
Tm_Tvblanton: Eastern Finland, we both might be connected to US thru same pipe11:21
vblantonhow about someone from the United States?11:22
tsimpsonseems to work for me (UK)11:22
ActionParsnipi'm UK and its fine here11:23
ActionParsniptry it again11:23
Mamarokvblanton: if it works from Germany and the UK then the site is not down11:23
ActionParsnip!find mud11:23
ubottuFound: gnome-mud, lib64mudflap0, lib64mudflap0-dbg, libmudflap0, libmudflap0-4.2-dev (and 5 others)11:23
vblantonMamarok, right. but finland and russia can't reach it11:23
ActionParsnipyou can connect to muds with telnet11:23
Mamarokvblanton: and why would somebody testing it from the US resolve that?11:23
Tm_Tvblanton: works here now11:24
ActionParsniptry this: http://kmuddy.com/libmxp/files/libmxp0_0.2.2-1_i386.deb11:24
vblantonTm_T, works now?11:24
ActionParsnip32bit: http://kmuddy.com/releases/stable/kmuddy_0.8-2~getdeb1_i386.deb11:25
ActionParsnip64bit: http://kmuddy.com/releases/stable/kmuddy_0.8-2~getdeb1_amd64.deb11:25
ActionParsnipthose are hardy debs btw11:25
vblantonnone of those work for me11:25
tsimpsonit's probably an issue with your ISPs DNS11:25
vblantontsimpson, i have tried it from a number two different locations/networks11:26
ActionParsniptry: http://66.218.49.11411:26
vblantonActionParsnip, no go11:26
ActionParsnipcan you tracert to it?11:26
ActionParsnipoops, traceroute11:26
tsimpsonvblanton: does http://66.218.49.113/ work?11:27
vblantontsimpson, nope11:28
ActionParsniphow about    traceroute 66.218.49.11311:29
vblantonum, i got output11:30
ActionParsnipvblanton: can you use pastebin to show us11:30
ActionParsnipi'm getting issues after dslextreme.com11:30
ActionParsnipso most likely they are having issues11:30
vblantonhttp://pastebin.com/d52d4a9a11:30
tsimpsonI'm also going via wvfiber.net and dslextreme.com, but no issues11:31
vblantontraceroute ..114 has same results11:32
ActionParsnipvblanton: try powering your router off for a minute, then on11:33
vblantonActionParsnip, i wish I could, but i am using my school connection11:33
vblantonAlso, at home, i *borrow* wireless from a store across the road.11:33
ActionParsnipvblanton: i see, could try a web broxy like www.hidemyass.com or www.proxyninja.com11:34
ActionParsnipvblanton: or go old school and use telnet11:34
vblantonwow, that worked11:35
vblanton(hidemyass)11:35
vblantonActionParsnip, do you know why that would be?11:37
ActionParsnipvblanton: maybe your school proxy is blocking traffic11:40
vblantonperhaps. chances are that both networks have proxies.. but its so strange that i've only had this issue with kmuddy. oh well, compiling the kmuddy sources now..11:42
vblantonthanks a bunchh11:42
siriusbdoes somebody know how to add a date condition in Kmail / Find messages?11:42
vblantonadios, thanks for the support all11:43
ActionParsnipvblanton: np man11:43
WampyreHello. I'm having problems connecting my kubuntu machine to my wifi-network.  I've gone into the network settings and set the ESSID and WEP key, but it connects intermittently. Mostly, it does not connect.  The sites I've found so far all deal with ubuntu and talk about GUI tools that ship with gnome.11:46
ActionParsnip!wifi11:49
ubottuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs11:49
shoebillI can't give any well informed input. Only that in my case that plasmoid network manager doesn't work, while knetworkmanager does11:51
Matissewhere do I change the shut down sound? Theres nothing in the system settings for KDE...11:51
MamarokMatisse: System Settings ->Notifications11:53
MamarokMatisse: but logically, the startup sound is only a notification to tell the user his computer is ready, a shutdown sound is not really needed11:54
robin0800shoebill: See https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-widget-network-manager/+bug/378145 gives a work around11:54
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MatisseMamarok, there's nothign about shut down sound...11:56
nico_hello11:56
Matissehi11:57
nico_OMFG11:57
nico_I love ubuntu <3 :D11:57
Mamaroknico_: watch your language11:57
siriusbdoes nobody use kmail?11:57
Matissenico_, wrong channel :P11:57
nico_??11:57
Matisse#ubuntu11:57
Mamarok!ask | siriusb11:57
ubottusiriusb: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)11:57
nico_ouh okaz11:57
nico_thx11:57
vblantonFolks know if there are any big issues withe 4.3 beta 1 packages?11:58
Tm_Tvblanton: shouldn't, except it's beta11:58
Mamarokvblanton: are you an experienced user?11:58
siriusbhow to add a date condition in Kmail / Find messages?11:58
vblantonTm_T, thats what I like to hear11:58
vblantonMamarok, yes :)11:58
tsimpsonMatisse: it the "Logout" sound11:59
Mamarokvblanton: then do as you like, but the build servers have not finished everything since the latest correction AFAIK11:59
tsimpsonMatisse: under "KDE System Notifications"11:59
nico_where i can find the ubuntu channal?12:00
vblantonsiriusb, dont know, haven't started used kmail kde4 yet :(12:00
tsimpsonnico_: type /join #ubuntu12:00
Mamaroksiriusb: filter12:00
nico_okaz thx12:01
Matissenico_, you can love ubuntu everywhere12:01
nico_:D12:01
siriusbMamarok: there's no such possibility, when you want to find email from somebody in a gien period12:01
siriusb*given12:02
Mamaroksiriusb: let me see, I have to start it first12:02
siriusbokay, thank you12:02
Matissetsimpson, under "KDE System Notifications" I can choose "Source of the event" (translated) but theres only stuff like powermanagement (laptop), printer, search, updates, etc.12:02
zMingzneed help trying to email a log file from a shell using at command using kmail ex kmail to: 123@gmail.com attachment daily.log12:03
tsimpsonMatisse: there should be one the the KDE (K) logo12:03
Matissetsimpson, isnt there12:04
Matissereally, looked up through all options there12:04
vbgunzwhoa... I lost my desktop :/12:04
Mamaroksiriusb: you can filter messages in the "find messages" option, Edit -> Find messages12:05
vbgunzwhat happened. this never happened... I am 9.04 stable. I logged in, and have no desktop... I have the KDM wallpaper and I can get krunner to launch a few things *but* launching plasma doesn't work... I am somewhat stuck :(12:05
vbgunzanyone know if something big went down?12:05
siriusbMamarok: and how you add a date condition???12:05
tsimpsonMatisse: do you see anything like this http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/2861/ssn.jpg ?12:07
Matissetsimpson, no12:08
Matissebut some of the items in the drop down box I have also12:09
Matissebut I many of them I havent12:09
vbgunzhello world! my desktop is gone. witw happened?12:09
Mamaroksiriusb: looks like you can't :(12:10
tsimpsonMatisse: do you have kdebase-runtime-data installed?12:10
Matissevbgunz, you mean the desktop to put/see files on?12:10
Matissetsimpson, yes12:10
siriusbMamarok: it would be a shame! :-/12:10
vbgunzyeah... I logged in through KDM, I get no plasma, I got nothing... I can call up krunner, but I do everything through there :/12:10
Mamaroksiriusb: you should ask in #kontact, they certainly would know it12:11
Mamarokvblanton: looks like your plsama did not start12:12
siriusbthanks for the advise, i'll try it12:12
Mamaroksry,12:12
Mamarokvbgunz: : looks like your plsama did not start12:12
Matissetry again12:12
tsimpsonMatisse: and the file /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc ?12:12
Mamarokvbgunz: what did you do last before that?12:12
vblantonMamarok, uh, hello.12:12
vblanton:)12:12
vbgunzyeah, but I keep trying to launch plasma and I cant :|12:12
Mamarokvblanton: sry, wrong nick with tab completion :)12:12
vbgunzMamarok: update through apt-get12:13
Mamarokvbgunz: update to what?12:13
vbgunzthats the only thing I can imagine going root for that might have changed anything12:13
Matissetsimpson, 120kb there12:13
Mamarokvbgunz: you logged in as root?12:13
vbgunzMamarok: for an apt-get update12:13
Mamarokvbgunz: logged in to the GUI as root?12:14
Mamarokvbgunz: that makes no sense12:14
vbgunzI am saying, thats the only root system-wide operation I made during last use on the desktop12:14
tsimpsonMatisse: what version of KDE do you have?12:14
Mamarokvbgunz: what version of KDE do you have?12:14
bazhangvbgunz, root or sudo12:14
Mamarokbazhang: that's not the problem...12:15
vbgunzMamarok: heh, you're making no sense out of it... I was saying, the last thing I did that might have effected anything system wide was doing apt-get...12:15
Matissetsimpson, newest for newest kubuntu12:15
vbgunzMamarok: 4.2.212:15
bazhangMamarok, I had the exact same issue12:15
Mamarokvbgunz: and I aske you what you were upgrading to...12:15
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vbgunzMamarok: dont remember. it was a simple apt-get update, upgrade, I was looking for anything in particular12:16
Mamarokvbgunz: you should go to a console and update again, maybe you have just something missing12:16
vbgunzI wasn't* looking12:16
Mamarokvbgunz: but it tells you what it is going to upgrade, so normally one should have a look...12:16
tsimpsonMatisse: from the Kubuntu PPA or from jaunty?12:16
Mamarokthat's what the administrator of a system should do12:17
Matissetsimpson, i think jaunty...   apt-cache show kdebase says:     Version: 4:4.2.2-0ubuntu412:18
vbgunzMamarok: heh, I forgot, shoot me, or I may have already been shot12:18
Mamarokvbgunz: try to move your .kde/ folder to .kde_old/ for example and login again12:18
tsimpsonMatisse: well 4:4.2.2-0ubuntu5 is the latest from jaunty, but that should not effect it12:19
Matissetsimpson, never used PPA, i'm sure12:20
zMingzi need to install a mail client that run in a shell that is friendly with kmail any sugestions ?12:20
tsimpson!info kdelibs512:20
ubottukdelibs5 (source: kde4libs): core libraries for all KDE 4 applications. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.2.2-0ubuntu5 (jaunty), package size 6617 kB, installed size 27316 kB12:20
tsimpsonit's in jaunty12:20
Matissetsimpson, isnt there something like dpkg --reconfigure  or something?12:21
tsimpsonMatisse: I doubt that would show it, it should pick up the kde.notiftrc file12:23
Matissetsimpson, tell me, whats the file name of your shut down sound12:26
Matissei delete it and it works out fine :)12:26
tsimpsonMatisse: try logging out/in, see if it picks it up. or edit ~/.kde/share/config/kde.notifyrc with something like http://paste.ubuntu.com/175582/ . if it doesn't show in system settings please file a bug at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+filebug12:27
tsimpsonMatisse: just put "Action=" to remove the sound effect12:29
Nikkehow can i prevent that other workspaces "steal windows" from another workspace?12:29
Matissethanks for the help. i'll have a look if its showing up12:34
Matissetsimpson, thanks for the help. i'll have a look if its showing up12:34
Matisserestarting kde..12:34
* sebr_ is missing loads of oxygen icons after updating to 4.3 alpha12:37
Matissetsimpson, doesn't show up, still making sound when logging off (but thats a different event, right?)12:39
ActionParsnipsebr_: apt-cache search oxygen | grep icon12:39
ActionParsnipsebr_: then reinstall the relevant package12:39
ActionParsnipsebr_: sudo apt-get --reinstall install <name of package>12:40
sebr_beautiful, that worked perfectly12:40
sebr_cheers12:40
ActionParsnipsebr_: np man12:42
Matissetsimpson, and I'm not sure if it makes sense to file a bug report for a bug that can't be reproduced...12:43
Greeneryis anyone here using the Weather Forecast plasmoid? I have graphical issue with that plasmoid, a weather icon shows up on the top right corner blocking the town name a bit12:50
ubsafderlooks like some boost stuff is broken in ubuntu 9.0412:51
ct529tsimpson: hi there! the uodate worked beutifully, thanks. Even my databases have been kept.12:51
ct529tsimpson: thanks for yesterady's help!12:51
Greenerymy Kubuntu is not detecting my second DVD burner. It detects my DVD reader very well though, Any idea how to fix this?12:53
vbgunzMamarok: somehow, someway, my plasmarc files got corrupted.12:57
vbgunzI think I may know how it happened, but dont want to even try12:59
cemunalhi all13:15
cemunali installed amarok2 on xfce4 but it can't play any sound and i can't see shoutcast radios; how can i fix these?13:17
kjelleHello. Is Applications -> Systems Settings menu supposed to be empty in KDE 4.2.2 (Ubuntu 9.04, Jaunty)?13:31
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AmbrNewlearnerHello, I want to configure my broadband internet connection (using ADSL 2+ router+modem)...In windows XP I have setup a connection for this like this:13:32
AmbrNewlearnerhttp://i39.tinypic.com/1tnfp3.jpg13:32
kjelleI updated my ubuntu 8.04.2 (kubuntu) to 9.04 yesterday, and Applications > System Settings is empty.. I cannot find e.g. KDE Control Center etc.. How do i corrigate this?13:33
mase_x200kjelle: can you update  from hardy direct to jaunty ?13:33
kjellemase_x200: that adept updater asked me if i wanted to update to 9.04 (gui program), and i selected yes. so guess so..+013:34
kjellehe probably went by 8.10 before he moved up to 9.0413:35
mase_x200k13:35
kjelleit is extremely poorly made if a gui core application let you fubar your box..13:35
devastation31AmbrNewlearner if u there is a router u don't need to configure an ADSL connection. This one does your router. U just need to setup your networkcard13:36
devastation31-u13:36
kjellemase_x200: should i move ~/.kde to something, and reinstall kde-base?13:36
xp-killerhow can i copy protected dvd on kubuntu?13:36
phhxp-killer: you mean read copy protected dvd-videos ?13:37
phhoh just copy13:37
kjelleor should I do something else?13:38
phhxp-killer: you want a gui ?13:38
kjelletry to completely remove kde, and reinstall it?13:38
phhxp-killer: you can try dvdrip13:38
Peace-kjelle: i don't think you should remove kde and then reinstall it13:39
Peace-just reinstall13:39
Peace-some packages should be ok13:39
Peace-but unluckly i dunno what package you should reinstall13:39
Peace-maybe kde-desktop13:39
xp-killerhow to install dvd rip?13:39
Peace-kjelle: sudo apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-desktop13:40
Peace-xp-killer: like every application sudo apt-get install YOURSTUFF13:42
AmbrNewlearner13devastation31: What was the command that you told to me?13:44
danailнякой казва ли нещо?13:51
kennethaarHi13:52
danailhi13:52
kennethaarDoes there excist a gui firewall for linux with popup notifications of outgoing and ingoing traffic ala zonealarm on windows?13:53
Pconfigkennethaar, the best gui for the linux firewall will be firestarter13:54
Pconfigno idea if it supports notifications13:54
kennethaarThanks Pconfig!14:05
kennethaarI'll Give it a try14:05
BlueAidan_workanyone know how to fix the permissions for a logitech mouse, to allow for changing settings via the systemsettings mouse applet?14:11
PollywogI am unable to get kgpg to encrypt files (Jaunty) on two systems.  Not sure when this problem started.  Is anyone else having this problem with kgpg?14:18
Pollywogwhat is the recommended way of reporting a bug in kgpg?  I remember reading something about not using Launchpad for this.14:19
BluesKajHowdy Folks14:20
Pollywogis there a way to downgrade KDE to 3.5.10 on a Jaunty system?14:24
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eagles0513875Pollywog: please ask in kubuntu this channel is for the next release and discussion about it14:28
PollywogI thought I was in #kubuntu14:29
Pollywogthanks14:29
PollywogI have no idea how I got here14:29
DragnslcrUh, you are14:29
Picieagles0513875: Please check your channels and be sure you know which ones you're in14:29
Dragnslcreagles0513875 is obviously not awake14:29
Pollywogwhy does it say offtopic in the topic?14:29
eagles0513875bah my bad Pollywog14:29
eagles0513875i thought i was in ubuntu+114:30
eagles0513875my bad14:30
DragnslcrPollywog- to answer your question, yes, I believe there is, but I don't think it's officially supported14:31
Pollywogand it is odd that there is already discussion about the next release when the current one still needs work  ;)14:31
PconfigPollywog: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Kde3/Jaunty14:31
Pollywogty14:31
PconfigPollywog: you don't need to reinstall btw, you can just add the repo's van pearsoncomputing and install the kde3 packages next to the kde4 packages14:32
Pconfigvan = from :P14:32
PollywogPconfig: ty14:32
PollywogThat is good because it is just kgpg that is causing grief at the moment14:33
PollywogI do not see the sources.list for pearsoncomputing, only iso's14:39
PollywogI smell a reinstall14:39
PconfigPollywog: give me a minute, i'll find them again ;)14:40
PollywogI think I have found them via Google14:41
Pollywogtnx14:41
Pollywoghttp://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/install.html14:41
Pconfigthat's it yes :)14:42
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gigasofthow to unzip pass-protected files, any help?14:47
Pollywogwhat is strange is that there are 4 lines for Jaunty but two of them point to intrepid14:47
PollywogI wonder if that is an error14:47
Pconfigmaybe he didn't package everything specially for jaunty yet. Only the ones that needed special attention14:48
Pollywogyes that might be it14:48
Pconfiggigasoft: ark should do the job?14:49
kjellePeace-: what happens when i do reinstall of kubuntu-desktop?14:49
kjellewill it affect the configurations etc? (#kde channel did not think so)14:49
Peace-kjelle: your configuration are saved on $HOME/.kde14:50
drbobbgigasoft: if all else fails try `unzip' on the command line14:50
Peace-kjelle: installing kubuntu-destkop again will not touch your stuff14:50
Peace-kjelle: but..........if you rename that folder  you will lose every configuration14:50
Peace-kjelle: i reccomended to rename that folder then you can restore your configuration with your hand14:51
Peace-*reccomend14:51
* Peace- is compiling koffice ~25%14:52
gigasofthow to unzip pass-protected files, any help?, and i do not know pass14:59
Pconfiglol, that changes the situation14:59
Peace-hahah15:00
Peace-get the password first15:00
drbobblol indeed15:02
kjellePeace-: yes, nothing changed after i reinstalled15:04
kjelleno more menus :p15:04
kjellePeace-: must i reboot, restart kdm?15:04
Peace-kjelle: mmmm renamed this $HOME/.kde?15:05
genii!info fcrackzip15:05
ubottufcrackzip (source: fcrackzip): password cracker for zip archives. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3-2 (jaunty), package size 28 kB, installed size 128 kB15:05
* genii sips15:05
* Peace- koffice ~ 60%15:06
kjellePeace-: haven't dared yet, tried first w/o15:07
kjellegonna do that now15:07
kjellePeace-: kontact and kmail died :)15:08
Peace-you can restore that after15:08
Peace-...15:08
Peace-how many time i have to say that?15:08
kjelle:)15:08
Peace-times15:08
kjellei moved away .kde and .kde4, and i did "sudo apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-desktop15:08
kjelle"15:08
kjellestill no change. do i need a reboot+15:09
* Peace- is italian and english is not his first language 15:09
Peace-kjelle: restart, if doesn't work you installation is fucked somewhy15:09
Peace-and i have no idea15:09
kjellehmm, i dont accept that, as I did a upgrade which was from the "wizard" in 8.0415:10
Peace-no more ideas15:10
Peace-sorry15:10
kjelleanyone elsE? :)15:10
kjellethis channel seems a bit quitet :p15:10
kjellePeace-: what is the command to launch KDE Control Center at your box?15:13
Peace-systemsettings15:13
kjellePeace-: ok, that is here..15:14
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tehborizi accidentally my task manager in my start menu dock and have no idea how to get it back... can somebody please help me? i've looked all over the place for it15:19
eagles0513875!minimal15:24
ubottuThe Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD15:24
kjelleso, i probably have to do a clean kubuntu 9.04 installation then?15:26
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dev11hi15:29
Phibeshello, i have a slight problem with mounting an iso, the terminal always gives "No such file or directory"15:29
khalid_hola15:29
dev11hi15:30
khalid_hay una sala de español15:30
Phibessudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 theiso.iso /mnt/isoimage/15:30
Phibesis what i use15:30
Magicman12641Can anyone tell me how I can use Itunes with Ubuntu?15:30
geniiPhibes: sudo mkdir /mnt/isoimage          then try again15:30
Phibesalready did that15:30
genii!es | khalid_15:31
ubottukhalid_: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.15:31
khalid_ok15:31
Phibesalso tried it with the whole path: home/media/Games/theiso.iso ... still nothing15:31
dev11any one know how to install .sh file in kubuntu?15:31
dev11any one know how to install .sh file in kubuntu?15:32
geniiPhibes: Perhaps the filesystem the image uses is not iso9660 compatible but something like udf or an oddball proprietary one (if it's some cd image for instance of a game console cd)15:32
geniidev11: .sh files use normally sh or bash to execute.  If you are in same dir as the file then: ./filename.sh          shuld be enough to run it15:33
Phibeshm... are there then programms like daemon tools to mount it? becuase its game yeah but not a console one. Ive tried EcetoneISO2 but that didnt really work15:34
dev11do you know any lan messanger for linux and windows15:35
Magicman12641Can anyone tell me how I can use Itunes with Ubuntu?15:35
Phibesokay... weird, i have it now in between the Filesystem and other maps... but ill try running it with Wine...15:35
eagles0513875!wine | Magicman1264115:35
ubottuMagicman12641: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu15:35
devastation31Phibes try gmount-iso may it works for u15:36
Magicman12641Thank you15:36
dev11do you know any lan messanger for linux and windows15:37
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geniidev11:  If you have winpopup on your windows machines you can use linpopup for the linux side15:37
Phibesi think ive got it mounted now15:37
Phibesthx15:37
tehborizi have someone's foot on the top left of my monitor, when i right click it it gives me the option to unlock my widgets... can i get rid of it please?15:39
tehboriztop right*15:39
dev11please let me know how to install linpopup?15:41
dev11on linux15:42
dev11how to install tar format file in linux?15:43
dev11how to install tar format file in linux?15:45
tzangergood morning15:45
geniidev11: linpopup install:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install linpopup15:45
tzangerwhat is the panel at the bottom called? the one with the K menuand the system tray and task list?  Mine's crashed, and I don't know what to run to bring another up15:45
geniidev11: Do not install from tar files when the application may be installed from the package manager15:45
devastation31dev11:  a tar file is an package like rar or zip. u need to extract this file15:45
devastation31tzanger: right click on desktop there u can add a new panel15:47
dev11i want to install outlook messanger in linux, please let me know how to do this?15:47
Mamarokdev11: outlook? that is a windows application15:48
Mamarokdevastation31: : outlook? that is a windows application15:48
dev11outlook messanger for linux15:48
devastation31dev11: outlook is an MS mailprogram. for mai there are many other applications15:48
PiciThere is no such thing15:49
dev11you can see here http://www.outlookmessenger.com/OM/lan_messenger_download.asp15:49
devastation31dev11 try evolution or Thunderbird or what ever15:49
Mamarokdev11: you can use kmail instead15:49
tzangerdevastation31: nope I have nothing on right-click of the desktop :-(15:49
Mamarokdevastation31: sry for the nick mistype15:49
tzangerxrandr killed something off15:49
Mamarokdevastation31: btw, in Kubunu the standard would rather be Kmail than Evolution...15:50
dev11there a outlook lan massenger for linux15:50
devastation31tzanger: there is the context menu. what u have to choose there15:50
tzangerdevastation31: there is no context menu; it got killed off15:50
Mamarokdev11: no, there is not, the mail applications have other names in Linux15:51
dev11which name15:51
dev11?15:51
Mamarokdev11: kmail15:51
devastation31-have +can15:51
Mamarokdev11: do you need help in your language?15:52
liberviscoHi, is it possible to turn off those file recycling in KDE?15:52
dev11i want to used lan messanger for crossform15:53
dev11both15:53
liberviscoevery time I edit a text file, for example, a new file shows up in the folder that ends with ~ and usually has a recycle icon on it15:53
Mamarokdev11: what is crossform?15:53
Mamarokdev11: what is your native language?15:53
dev11do you have any idea15:53
dev11marathi15:54
Mamarokdev11: this is an Indian language?15:54
dev11yes15:54
Mamarok!in | dev1115:54
ubottudev11: #ubuntu-in is the channel for Ubuntu in India15:54
dev11hindi15:54
Mamarokdev11: I fear I don't understand what you exactly need, I don't know what crossform is15:55
devastation31tzanger: try from console ;15:55
devastation31sudo dpkg-reconfigure kde-core15:55
devastation31sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm15:55
devastation31sudo dpkg-reconfigure Xorg.conf15:55
dev11for linux and windows15:56
Mamarokdevastation31: you can use Thunderbird then, it is a mail client for both Linux and Windows15:56
devastation31tzanger: sorry i meant xserver-xorg15:56
Mamarokdev11: you can use Thunderbird then, it is a mail client for both Linux and Windows15:57
Mamarokdevastation31: sry...15:57
devastation31lol15:57
* Mamarok gives up15:57
Mamarokbbl, shopping15:57
dev11hi16:01
Dragnslcrlibervisco- that's actually specific to Kate. You can turn it off in Kate's settings16:01
dev11?16:01
mugenmbx5probando16:03
liberviscoDragnslcr, oh.. you mean "Backup and save" feature?16:04
liberviscolooks like that should be it..16:04
DragnslcrSomething like that16:04
liberviscothanks :)16:04
liberviscoI compulsively save text files after every modification anyway with ctrl-s :)16:04
DragnslcrHeh, same here16:05
AceKingAnybody know a good program to use for Ipod video?16:06
ct529AceKing: Amarok?16:14
ct529AceKing: sorry, kaffeine16:14
ct529AceKing: I think it may support it16:15
dyn0myt3why do I have Kpackagekit, instead  of Kpackage, default install16:19
BluesKajdyn0myt3, it's the default package manager now16:21
dyn0myt3k16:21
ct529BluesKaj: does it substitute the previous package manager?16:22
BluesKajI still use adept and synaptic myself , the kpackagekit doesn't do what I want.16:22
dyn0myt3i was trying to view a website and it said i needed flash, so i went into kpackagekit and install Flash. i must already have it.16:22
BluesKajdyn0myt3, make sure you have medibuntu in your sources.list16:23
BluesKaj!medibuntu16:23
ubottumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org16:23
dyn0myt3nice thx16:23
BluesKajdyn0myt3, install kubuntu-restricted-extras16:23
BluesKajand flashplugin-nonfree16:24
dyn0myt3ok16:25
dyn0myt3thx16:25
vistakilleranyone else have the problem with the evil white window?16:26
vistakillerwhen use sudo kate from konsole16:26
DragnslcrBluesKaj- Flash isn't in medibuntu16:29
Dragnslcr!info flashplugin-installer16:29
ubottuflashplugin-installer (source: flashplugin-nonfree): Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 10.0.22.87ubuntu2 (jaunty), package size 18 kB, installed size 176 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 lpia)16:29
BluesKajvistakiller, nope wrls ok here, try kdesudo in the run command (alt+f2)16:29
BluesKajDragnslcr, oops , forgot :P16:29
DragnslcrI don't think it's been in medibuntu for a long time. I always remember it being in multiverse16:30
vistakilleris ok with kdesudo but when i use sudo apears a white windows that say  "Could not start ksmserver. Check your installation."16:31
BluesKajDragnslcr, prolly never was , My memory fails me sometimes16:31
BluesKajvistakiller, try starting it in the run command then16:32
dyn0myt3i tried to download the .deb from Adobe, but it Errored16:32
Dragnslcrvistakiller- yeah, because sudo doesn't work with GUI programs16:32
Dragnslcrvistakiller- you have to use kdesudo16:32
pino\ciao16:32
pino!list16:32
ubottuThis is not a file sharing channel (or network). If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot »16:32
BluesKaj<---seldom uses konsole to start gui apps16:33
AceKingcd529: I didn't try Kaffeine yet16:33
dyn0myt3is it normal to have 129 processes  ?16:33
vistakillerbut before some weeks it works fine :P16:33
AceKingct529: sorry I stepped out of the room and just seen your post.. I didn't try kaffeine yet16:34
AceKingI'll give that a shot16:34
AceKingThanks16:34
Dragnslcrdyn0myt3- that's about right, yeah16:35
BluesKajdyn0myt3, check your souces list make sure you don't have any sources commented out or alternatively open the package manager and enable thirdparty sources, then try the install16:35
Dragnslcrdyn0myt3- I have about 160 processes running right now16:35
dyn0myt3lol i used to freak when Xp went over   3016:36
dyn0myt3https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu16:37
serei set up gadminproftpd and i can connect to the server but i can see any files...anyone know y16:48
geniisere: Please don't post the same question in multiple channels. Since gadminproftpd is a regular Gnome app and not KDE I suggest #ubuntu16:49
sereis there a kde app?16:50
ct529sere: what would you like to do?16:50
serect529. share files with my pda16:51
serect529. i assumed ftp was the easiest way16:51
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ct529sere: do you have to upload or download?16:54
serect529: i would like to download movies  /mp3s16:54
ct529sere: KGET is good under KDE16:56
serect529: i need a file server under linux so i can ftp through my pda16:57
tekteen_sere, proftpd is a good ftp server16:57
tekteen_I like it16:58
dev25hell16:59
dev25hello*16:59
seretekteen. i have it installed and can connect to it but not getting any files...only the welcome message any ideas?17:00
dev25please tell me how to install linpopup17:00
tekteen_sere, is there anything in the root directory of the ftp?17:00
tekteen_sere, what directory is the root?17:01
seretekteen_: yes.... and /home/ftp17:01
seretekteen_: would u mind looking at my config file ?17:01
tekteen_sere, what are the permissions on those files? does the ftp user own them?17:01
tekteen_sere, pastebin them17:01
tekteen_I have a little time before class (at lunch)17:02
noaXessif i switch to many/fast ALT+TAB then keyboard stops working...17:02
noaXessso i need to relogin into kde417:02
noaXesshave latest kde417:02
swattoHello all17:04
tekteen_sere?17:04
tekteen_hi swatto17:04
seretekteen_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/175770/17:05
geniidev25: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install linpopup17:05
swattoWhat are peoples takes on antivirus and firewall?17:05
genii( as I told you already earlier)17:06
dev25ok thanks17:06
dev25and then?17:06
tekteen_swatto, I do not use antivirus/firewall on my linux machine17:06
tekteen_swatto, I only use it on my server. And that is just iptables and clamscan once a month17:07
seretekteen_: not sure what happend but my sudo passowrd has changed sinec the install..17:07
tekteen_...17:08
tekteen_sere, that does not make sense...17:09
tekteen_did you use passwd? lol17:09
seretekteen_: no lol :/17:10
dev25when i instaling linpopup this massage showing  Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?17:13
dev25when i instaling linpopup this massage showing  Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?17:13
tekteen_dev25, do you have a program open?17:13
tekteen_are you installing something else17:13
dev25yes17:13
tekteen_it is made to not work if you are installing something else at the same time17:14
tekteen_it also will not work if you have another program open like adept17:14
dev25thanks its work17:14
dev25now its working17:15
seretekteen_: did u have a chance to check out my config17:15
dev25now installed linpopup so please let me know where i can see?17:16
swattoahh thats good then, I wont bother installing any antivirus/firewall software.  I only have a linux machine, dont have windows anymore17:18
liberviscoKDE just froze.. even with most minimal desktop effects.. which is none except transparency..17:20
noaXessif i switch to many/fast ALT+TAB then keyboard stops working...17:20
noaXessany idea?17:20
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dev25please let know how to used linpopup17:23
dev25i installed linpopup on my PC17:23
dev25please let me know to used17:23
padi999Sorry guys, but is kmail also crashing ALL THE TIME at your place?17:25
padi999It's .. all the time17:25
padi999scary17:25
jesus__hello17:26
jesus__wifi problem17:26
padi999Linux 2.6.28-11-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP, kubuntu 4.217:27
padi999sorry, kde 4.2.217:28
sereif im trying to set a an ftp so i can access / through su what is the group for that?17:28
jaanikakas keegi eesti keelt ka oskab või.17:29
padi999What percentage of visitors in here are a) bots, b) idlers/not present c) people waiting for answers d) people being able and having time to give answers17:30
padi999that would be an interesting question17:30
ubuntu___Hi there, I just installed kubuntu from the live CD, but I added LVM into the process.. Before install, I apt-get install lvm2, created the LVM partitions. Then I ran the installer, selected the LVM partitions (but /boot has its own separate partition, still), did installation, and when finished, I chrooted into the new installation and installed the lvm2 package there too so that ubuntu would have LVM support. Then I reboot, grub loads, but then it fa17:37
ubuntu___ saying it failed find / , that it can not finnd /dev/system/root (which is the LV root from the group system).. Does anybody have an idea how to fix this?17:37
MuzerWhat's the name of that info box that pops up in the bottom-right corner (with the "i" icon in the system tray), and how would I use it from a shell script (if that's possible)?17:39
swattowhats the command to open a terminal prompt at a specific location?17:42
ubuntu___swatto: not entirely sure but try man bash, man konsole..17:42
swattook thanks17:42
dyn0myt3every time i reboot i lose my desktop image. what did i break   :)17:43
swattohow do I open a hidden directory in dolphin17:44
Muzerswatto: Press Ctrl + L to open the location bar, then type it17:45
Muzeror you can enable hidden files in the view menu, then disable it again17:45
swattoahh thankyou Muzer17:46
Muzerbut that can be annoying17:46
robin0800swatto: You can also set it to permanat in the settings17:47
swattoahh its ok that will be fine :)17:47
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gabspeckhey there18:02
portacoonhello?18:02
gabspeckdoes anyone know how to manually convert LNK shortcuts to  .desktop files ?18:02
wektHi.  What is the app in Kubuntu which shows one square enclosing another to help you set the gamma of your monitor?18:12
redexitohello18:14
redexitoviva kubuntu18:15
dwidmannSo what does one do to kill a process when killall -9 doesn't work?18:16
redexitono18:16
tsimpsondwidmann: there's not a lot you can do18:18
redexito  I do not fault18:18
tsimpsonredexito: do you have an issue?18:18
dwidmanntsimpson: that's both what I suspected and what I didn't want to hear18:18
redexitoiam not18:19
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justin___hello18:37
justin___is anyone in here?18:38
BluesKajjustin___, no :)18:40
dyn0myt3yes18:40
dyn0myt3i downloaded a image for the desktop thru the "built in" wallpapers, but i have no idea where it went18:41
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phoenixzI just reinstalled kubuntu, 9.04.. from 7.04 and up, my Wifi worked (broadcomm, using closed driver).. Right now, my wifi doesnt work (the wifi led is also off) and when trying to install the closed driver, I see nothing.. How can I enable my wifi driver?18:46
dyn0myt3need input:  user states "it keeps glitching out and troughing random numbers all over my screen"18:57
dyn0myt3on a laptop18:57
geniidyn0myt3: I've seen that when trying to boot on systems with corrupted bios or video18:59
nithinhi18:59
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dyn0myt3hi19:00
dyn0myt3thx Genii19:00
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geniidyn0myt3: Usually it will power up then random garbage all over the screen (sometimes in different colours or even some of it blinking). Then it will just lockup/freeze19:00
nithinman how uconnec to internet19:02
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sharkphi, I have a VIA VT82xx integrated audio card19:05
sharkpbut it's recognized every two sessions...19:05
sharkpand I haven't this problem with GNOME19:05
sharkpwhat could be the problem?19:06
sharkpyuhuu?19:08
Josecitohola19:10
Josecitoalguien me puedea yudar con linux''19:10
Josecitosoy nuevo :S19:10
sharkpcan anyone help me?19:10
sharkp!espanol19:11
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.19:11
Josecitospenish  please19:11
Josecitograsias19:11
sharkpde nada :)19:11
sharkp!italiano19:12
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)19:12
sharkpare you all dead? :)19:16
noaXessif i switch to many/fast ALT+TAB then keyboard stops working... any idea, tipps?19:17
Mamarok!ask | sharkp19:21
ubottusharkp: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)19:21
sharkpMamarok: It doesn't seem to me that I've repeated my questione19:21
Mamaroksharkp: read the end of that sentence...19:22
Mamarokif anyone knows the anser....19:22
Mamarokanswer even19:22
sharkpMamarok: we are in an international channel, there might be almost 30 messages per minute19:22
WaaXexcept for kde/gnome, are they other differences in kubuntu and ubuntu? filesystem layout, etc?19:22
sharkpdon't you think that if I repeat only once the question isn't a problem?19:23
MamarokWaaX: no, not AFAIK19:23
WaaXMamarok: Thanks!19:23
Mamaroksharkp: it has nothing to do with the channel being internationl, there's just nobody around who knows19:23
phoenixzI just reinstalled ubuntu and I have my old installation partition still available with the entire old installation. I mounted it in ~/old. I want to remove most of this partition with rm ~/old/bin ; rm ~/old/lib  for example, but I know there are lots of symbolic links that point towards the REAL /bin and /lib.. How can I first (and safely) eliminate these symbolic links so that my new install will be safe?19:23
Mamarokphoenixz: you actually want to save the /home content of that old partition?19:24
Mamarokphoenixz: as all the system files are of no use with the new installation19:25
phoenixzMamarok: yeah, but its like 80GB of my old home dir and the new home partition has only like 5GB available.. :)19:25
Mamarokphoenixz: just remove everything except the old /home19:25
Ab3Lciao19:25
Ab3Lhi19:25
MamarokAb3L: hi19:25
phoenixzMamarok: thats what I want to do, but the thing is loaded with symlinks to /lib and /bin and so... if i do an rm ~/old/bin -rf,  I will end up removing files from /bin too19:26
phoenixzDONT want to do that! :)19:26
Mamarokphoenixz: those symlinks should not be in /home AFAIK19:26
Ab3Lshall i park here to understand which are the problems of a common user with kde?19:26
Mamarokjust avoid to use the old ~/.kde/ stuff19:26
phoenixzI checked with find . -type l and I found various links that point towards absolute paths, starting with / ....19:26
MamarokAb3L: do you have a question in particular?19:26
Ab3Lwell i'm a gnomian, not a kdeist. but i think it is good to open my mind to other interfaces.19:27
Mamarokphoenixz: everything that is in that old /home starting with a dot is of no use anymore, except for some content in .kde/share/19:27
phoenixzMamarok: .mozilla is usefull too.. :)19:28
MamarokAb3L: for a broader view you could check in #kde19:28
Mamarokphoenixz: well, yes, for some settings, but most of the stuff there might just be more of a hindrance than anything else19:28
phoenixzMamarok: Im going to dump the majority of home as well, I already know what to delete there and what not.. the problem is thhat I worry about deleting stuff like /bin /usr and /lib since they contain symlinks to my new install..19:29
x_linkHi!19:29
phoenixzx_link: hello too..19:30
x_link=)19:30
Mamarokphoenixz: it shouldn't or I didn't understand your settings19:30
x_linkI just wanted to ask which tg3-driver that comes with Kubuntu Jaunty/9.04?19:30
Whiz2I'm about to download kubuntu to put on one of my PCs... but before i do, did they fix the installation issue from previous versions that made it a pain to try to install from a CD?19:30
x_linkCan somebody that uses Jaunty here please take a look?19:30
crichardsoi really want my dual monitor support to be fixed :<19:30
phoenixzMamarok: well.. its the /dev/sda2 partition that I mounted in ~/old.. it contains the old ubuntu install that went haywire.. so I reinstalled, and now I want to dump the garbage data from that partition19:31
Mamarokphoenixz: but you installed on another partition, with a new /home?19:31
phoenixzMamarok: but again, that partition is (WAS) the previous installation.. so it contains a real linux install, with symlinks all over the place19:31
phoenixzMamarok: correct19:31
Mamarokphoenixz: then those symlinks point to the old installation, there is no reason why those would point to the new one19:32
x_linkAnybody?19:32
phoenixzMamarok: and in my new home dir, there is, for example, ~/old/lib/libgpg-error.la -> /usr/lib/libgpg-error.la    See how that one points to /usr which is the NEW /usr directory?19:33
Mamarokx_link: patience...19:33
phoenixzthats my problem.. if I delete that one, the new file gets deleted as well..19:33
Mamarokphoenixz: if you did a new installation without mounting this partition during your installation, this should not be there19:34
phoenixzx_link: ubuntu and kubuntu are equal on that level, you could ask in the ubuntu channel since there are more people there19:34
garnacho_hola19:34
garnacho_alguien que hable español?19:34
Mamarok!es | garnacho_19:34
ubottugarnacho_: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.19:34
phoenixzMamarok: I did not mount it during installation.. the symlinks are there from the previous installation19:34
Mamarokphoenixz: then you can dump those, they do not point to your new installation19:35
x_linkphoenixz: Okey19:35
Mamarokphoenixz: don't forget that this old partition contains the previous / system19:35
Mamarokremove those links and it should not bother you19:36
phoenixzMamarok: thats what I am saying.. it contains the previous / system... but the symbolic links in the previous / DO point to the new /... which means, if I delete those, I will delete the ones in the new / as well19:36
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Mamarokphoenixz: no, those are symlinks, not real files19:37
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phoenixzMamarok: correct.. and deleting those symlinks will NOT remove the real files? even if I remove them as root? (since the filepermissions are the same, those files are root, so I nened to do rm as root)19:37
Mamarokphoenixz: I don't know how you ended up with those links, but if those are symlinks, this will not touch the files they point to19:38
Mamarokyou are not removing the target files of a link when you remove a link19:38
phoenixzMamarok: ah, okay.. I though that if I do a recursive rm ~/old/lib -rf for example, that it would also remove files where the symlinks pointed to..19:39
Mamarokphoenixz: if you perform a search with the "find" option in Dolphin, you can remove the links directly in there19:39
Mamarokphoenixz: you might have to run Dolphin with kdesudo though19:40
phoenixzMamarok: well, if rm does not remove the file a symlink points to, there is no problem19:40
salohcinHello I'm having a litte networking troubleeeee20:09
salohcinI can conneth wired and wirelesslyct to the network bo20:10
salohcinugh20:10
salohcinI can connect to the network both wired and wirelessly20:10
salohcinHowever if I create a second user they cannot connect20:10
salohcinWhat could be wrong?20:11
tlalochi ¿amsn+cam install?20:13
geniisalohcin: Likely the second user needs to be in a group such as "dialout" or "plugdev". Compare what groups bothe users belong to. The first is by default a member of admin group but following users should *not* be.20:14
Mamaroktlaloc: in english, please20:14
tlalochow to install a video camera in amsn20:15
Mamaroktlaloc: sry, I don't know, never used amsn20:16
Mamaroktlaloc: did you search on their website for instructions?20:16
Being_Tsukasaquestion: in Kubuntu, what do i need to install to have volume in youtube videos? or am i really dumb and dont have an audio driver installed?20:16
MamarokBeing_Tsukasa: this can be a problem related to flash, did it ever work?20:17
tlaloc20:17
tlalochow can I install a video camera in ubuntu20:17
Mamaroktlaloc: a webcan you mean?20:18
Being_TsukasaMamarok: i have never tested volume apart from youtube, and the video works, just not the audio20:18
tlalocwebcam no20:18
tlalocedit video20:18
tlalocwith a camcorder20:18
MamarokBeing_Tsukasa: go to system settings -> multimedia and check if the sound works20:18
Mamaroktlaloc: well, does your camera have an USB port?20:19
tlalocusb and firewire20:19
Mamaroktlaloc: just connect it and you can copy the video from it to your /home20:19
Mamarok!video20:20
ubottuUbuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications20:20
Mamarokhm, video editing software, let's see20:20
salohcingenii: Thank you can you test something else for me?20:20
phoenixzCTRL-F1 gets me to my first desktop, CTRL-F2 gets me to my 2nd desktop.. I have 6 desktops, but CTRL-F5 and CTRL-F6 dont bring me to the 5th and 6th desktop.. How can I configure this?20:21
salohcingenii: in krunner type login and try to run the login manager20:22
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Mamaroktlaloc: for video edition, try kdenlive20:22
Mamarok!info kdenlive20:22
ubottukdenlive (source: kdenlive): a non-linear video editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.3-0ubuntu2 (jaunty), package size 1285 kB, installed size 3940 kB20:22
tlalocthanks20:22
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Mamarokphoenixz: from Ctrl-F5 on there are already hotkey settings for other stuff, you need to configure this if you want to change it20:23
phoenixzMamarok: Sounds logical.. Where can I configure this?20:24
Mamarokphoenixz: systemsettings -> Keyboard&Mouse20:24
phoenixzMamarok: thanks!20:24
Mamarokphoenixz: you are welcome :)20:24
Being_Tsukasa_ok, i just clicked on something by mistake, and my windows displaying on the bottom bar disappeared, how do i switch this back?20:25
salohcinMamarok: ha ha for some reason I read that as you are awesome20:25
MamarokBeing_Tsukasa: go to the cashew shaped icon on the right of the panel20:25
salohcinBeing_Tsukasa_: Is the rest of the panel still there?20:26
Mamaroksalohcin: some are :)20:26
salohcinMamarok: :-)20:26
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anonimous_I did it!!20:26
Being_Tsukasa_i have the system try still, and the rest of the panel, its just the part that shows the minimzed windows20:26
salohcinAn aside queston is the Login manager supposed to be broken?20:26
Mamaroksalohcin: in Jaunty?20:26
juxboxwhy doesn't kubuntu ask me for a root password during installation, and any administrative tasks, it asks for my account's password rather than root?20:27
salohcinBeing_Tsukasa_: There is a button on the far right of the panel click that then add widgets20:27
salohcin Mamarok: Yes20:27
Mamaroksalohcin: you talk about kdm, right?20:27
salohcinThe manager for KDM yes20:27
Being_Tsukasa_what is the widget name?20:27
salohcinBeing_Tsukasa_: Task manager20:27
Mamarokjuxbox: the first user is automatically the system adminstrator and has sudo rights20:27
Being_Tsukasasweet thanks20:27
salohcin!root | juxbox20:28
ubottujuxbox: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo20:28
Mamaroksalohcin: I don't think so, no, works fine here, some graphic glitches on startup that's all20:28
juxboxubottu: so how can i remove sudo rights, since this is not safe to be using.20:28
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)20:28
Being_Tsukasanow, how do i move the widgets around on the bar?20:29
Mamarokjuxbox: this is very save, much saver than root :)20:29
salohcinMamarok: I am talking of the login manager under advanced in System Settings20:29
Mamarokjuxbox: it is only granted to the first user20:29
juxboxbut now root is not used in anything rigt?20:29
salohcinBeing_Tsukasa: When the button on the panel is pressed yo ucan drag the widgets around20:29
Being_Tsukasacool thanks20:30
Mamaroksalohcin: so do I, works for me20:30
salohcin.Hmm OK thanks20:30
Mamarokjuxbox: no, there is no root20:30
Being_Tsukasaits been a few years since i last used linux, in that time a lot has changed20:30
juxboxi see20:30
Being_Tsukasawell... more like almost a year20:30
Mamarokjuxbox: if you need admin rights, you do the task with sudo <task>20:31
Being_Tsukasathat or i forgot a lot :P20:31
juxboxso how can i install mozilla firefox browser. i don't seem to find it?20:31
MamarokBeing_Tsukasa: KDE 4 has changed a lot in a year :)20:31
Mamarokjuxbox: it's called firefox, you can add it from the system settings in the menu20:32
Mamarokjuxbox: open "add and remove Software" and type firefox in the search bar20:33
salohcinMamarok: ah Well since we brought up KDM. It does not die when I logout20:33
Mamaroksalohcin: same here, but didn't have time to search for a bug till now20:33
juxboxya, i did that, and found so many results in there. But i think i'll look in the description.20:33
Mamaroksalohcin: it workd in 4.2.2, it doesn't in 4.2.320:33
Mamarokjuxbox: there is a meta-package just called firefox20:33
juxboxso how can i change the look of how kubuntu boots? i mean that blue kubuntu word?20:33
Mamarokjuxbox: on startup you mean?20:34
juxboxya20:34
salohcinMamarok: Ah I'm on 4.2.85 So what would be the problem? X ?20:34
Being_Tsukasaback to my audio problem20:34
Mamarokjuxbox: you have to change this in the grub settings20:35
Being_Tsukasai have no sound output according to the tests :S20:35
Mamarok!grub | juxbox20:35
ubottujuxbox: GRUB is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto20:35
MamarokBeing_Tsukasa: do you have pulseaudio on top of the list in multimedia?20:35
juxboxwell, i need to change the black screen of grup too20:35
Being_Tsukasashould it be?20:35
MamarokBeing_Tsukasa: not really, not in KDE at least20:36
Being_Tsukasai do however have the windows audio drivers kickin around, how would i install them on here?20:36
MamarokBeing_Tsukasa: but do you see your soundcard there?20:36
Being_Tsukasayes i do20:36
MamarokBeing_Tsukasa: no need for windows driver in Linux :)20:36
salohcinMamarok: So it's simply broken with no current workaround?20:37
Mamarok!sound | Being_Tsukasa20:37
ubottuBeing_Tsukasa: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP320:37
Mamaroksalohcin: as I said, I haven't had time to investigate yet, but I hardly ever log out...20:37
salohcinMamarok: Ah Well let me try the second user to see if they have network :)20:37
Mamaroksalohcin: network? You were talking about kdm...20:38
salohcinMamarok: My inital question was why my second user could not join the network which genii answered20:39
Being_Tsukasai do not see a sound system option20:39
juxboxdoes kubuntu support screen saver because i need to lock the screen if idle for 4 minutes?20:39
Mamaroksalohcin: ok, you have to add the user to the dialout group I think20:39
salohcinI did20:40
Mamarokjuxbox: yes, still in system settings -> Desktop20:40
Being_Tsukasai should probably test my wireless card too, but that i know how to get working20:40
Mamarokjuxbox: your first time on Linux?20:40
Being_Tsukasaso, what do i do if i dont see a sound system option under system settings?20:41
MamarokBeing_Tsukasa: tries Multimedia?20:41
Mamaroktry*20:41
juxboxMamarok: no, but first time to kubuntu and kde4.20:42
Mamarokjuxbox: did you use KDE 3 before?20:42
Mamarokjuxbox: then just try and look around, it's not that different20:42
MamarokBeing_Tsukasa: sorry, that instructions are for Gnome as it seems...20:43
juxboxMamarok: ya20:43
juxboxwell, i haven't used ubuntu or kubuntu before so20:43
juxboxthings are very different in here not unix way20:43
Being_Tsukasawell... i can check it out online, but if you know anything, it will make my life easier :)20:44
Mamarokjuxbox: it's just Linux, there is not much difference from one distro to another, basically the package system, but the desktops should be more or less the same20:44
Being_Tsukasajust out of curiosity though, how many other girls use linux?20:44
juxboxya, but i'm shocked about the nonexsisting root20:44
salohcin!women20:44
ubottuThe women and men of the Ubuntu women project hang out in #ubuntu-women. Encouraging women to use linux? Read http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/ for some suggestions compiled by women who use Linux on how to do so effectively.20:44
MamarokBeing_Tsukasa: read the SoundTroubleshooting section in the link I gave you, might help20:44
salohcinBeing_Tsukasa: Quite I few I would guess20:45
MamarokBeing_Tsukasa: there is no count, but there are many20:45
MamarokBeing_Tsukasa: does this matter? this is a technical environnment, so who cares...20:46
Being_Tsukasajust curious20:46
Mamarokjuxbox: sudo is much saver than having a root user20:46
Mamaroksafer*20:46
* Mamarok is getting tired...20:47
juxboxso is there a way to change the color and feel of the main panel?20:47
* salohcin hugs Mamarok and hands over a pillow20:48
Mamarokjuxbox: System Settings -> Appearance...20:48
Mamaroksalohcin: thx :)20:48
Mamarokjuxbox: I'm sure if you have some Linux experience you can find by yourself too :) Just look around!20:49
juxboxi looked there, but i can't find much settings20:49
Mamarokjuxbox: color?20:50
Mamarokjuxbox: ok, sorry, misread, you said panel, right?20:50
juxboxyes the main panel that contains the k menu.20:50
Mamarokjuxbox: right click on the destop -> Appearance Settings20:50
juxboxhmm20:50
Mamarokas the Panel is part of the Desktop, its on the Desktop you will find it :)20:51
Being_Tsukasahmmm... it would appear my sound card isnt supported :S20:51
Being_Tsukasatoo new...20:51
* Lurkan is away: Ausente por ahora.20:51
Being_Tsukasawhich is odd, as this machine is a year and a half old20:52
MamarokBeing_Tsukasa: too exotic maybe? where did it say it isn't supported?20:52
Mamarok!away > Lurkan20:53
ubottuLurkan, please see my private message20:53
Being_Tsukasahttp://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Vendor-Intel20:53
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Being_Tsukasamine is in the ICH8 family20:53
MamarokBeing_Tsukasa: Intel cards are nearly all supported AFAIK20:53
MamarokBeing_Tsukasa: read the date at the end of the page: "This page was last modified 05:10, 23 December 2007" ...20:54
MamarokBeing_Tsukasa: what sound card is it exactly?20:54
Being_Tsukasalol... so yeah, its probably supported then, so i will pretend it is and keep going forward20:55
Mamarokok, I need some food, bbl20:55
phoenixzHow come that kopete has so many problems where pidgin is so simple? Pidgin is install, run, add google mail account and it works.. kopete doesn't want to connect, doesnt work, etc.. Is there still stuff under development?20:57
drbobbwell kopete *did* work back in kde320:58
Being_Tsukasai wouldnt know, ive had problems with pidgin so far, ill sort it out after my audio20:58
xzewronphoenixz: I have the same problem.20:58
salohcinphoenixz: It connects fine here. Did you change the server ?20:59
xzewronkopete doesnt want to connect for me20:59
drbobband pidgin does mostly work, though not equally well with all services21:00
drbobbhmm pidgin insists on spellchecking my writing, which is pretty useless considering my locale is not english21:06
drbobband I can't find any option/setting to turn that nuisance off21:06
drbobbthough I did find a way to easily pick one of about a dozen input methods21:06
drbobb(I wouldn't know how to use any of them of course)21:06
drbobbhey lemme ask everybody: do the arrow keys autorepeat for you?21:06
drbobbcause mine don't, for some reason21:06
drbobbuhh actually up and right do autorepeat, while down and left don't21:07
drbobbis that a bug or what?21:07
juxboxhow can i know the owner of a directory?21:09
salohcinls -l21:10
salohcinor right click -> properties in dolphin21:10
neptune_hello21:11
juxboxhow do you explain this drwx------ 22 ptframe ptframe  4096 2009-05-19 22:38 ptframe21:11
juxboxand i'm ptframe, yet, i can't write to it.21:11
juxboxi used chmod 700 against it though could that be the problem?21:12
Mamarokjuxbox: that is not a directory21:13
juxboxMamarok: it's /home/ptframe21:14
Mamarokjuxbox: well, actually it is but it doesn't have the right prmissions21:14
juxboxwhat permission should i have to access it, but not any other user?21:14
Mamarokjuxbox: sudo chown ptframe -R /home/ptframe/21:14
Being_Tsukasawhen i am doing "sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf" what do i have to do to get this to work "options snd-hda-intel model=dell-m44"?21:15
Mamarokthis will change recursively all to make you the owner21:15
juxboxMamarok: why do i have to do that if i already own it?21:15
Being_Tsukasabecause it doesnt look like i did anything when i typed it and hit enter21:16
Mamarokjuxbox: also, you need to set the permissions to drwxr--r--21:16
geniiMamarok: It looks like they may have recursively 700 from 755 everything in ~21:16
juxboxbut i don't want others to read it21:16
Mamarokjuxbox: whcih would be chown 77721:16
Mamarok74421:16
Mamaroksry21:16
juxboxMamarok: wouldn't chmod 740 be ok?21:17
lorisHi21:17
noaXessif i switch to many/fast ALT+TAB then keyboard stops working... any idea, tipps?21:17
lorisWow.. there's a lot of people in there...21:17
Mamarokloris: most do just linger :)21:17
Mamarokjuxbox: you need to make it readable for all21:18
Mamarokwell, I guess 740 might be ok too...21:18
Mamaroknever did that21:18
juxboxMamarok: i don't want it to be readable for all.21:18
Being_Tsukasado i have to "^O WriteOut" after?21:18
Mamarokjuxbox: how many other users are there?21:19
geniiBeing_Tsukasa: or ctrl-x for exit then just confirm the save name and location21:19
MamarokBeing_Tsukasa: what do you mean?21:19
Dragnslcrjuxbox- 700 is fine to allow the owner to create files in the directory21:19
Dragnslcrjuxbox- what exactly is failing, and what error message do you get?21:20
Being_Tsukasagenii: ty21:20
MamarokDarkriftX: he has 700 on his home directory...21:20
Being_Tsukasanow to see if this worked21:21
juxboxDragnslcr: i need 700 on my home directory but it's not allowing me to write it21:21
juxboxto* it21:21
Dragnslcrjuxbox- what exactly are you trying to create, and how are you doing it?21:22
Mamarokjuxbox: why did you change that in the first place?21:22
Dragnslcrjuxbox- and what error message do you get?21:22
juxboxDragnslcr: nothing the paste and create new file is deactivated.21:23
Dragnslcrjuxbox- in Dolphin?21:23
juxboxMamarok: because i need it 700. That's why21:23
juxboxDragnslcr: yes, but in other folders it's activated.21:23
juxboxdirectories*21:23
Being_Tsukasaok, that got my audio working, but disabled my media control buttons on my lappy21:24
Dragnslcrjuxbox- if you right-click in the window, all of the options under Create New are disabled?21:24
juxboxDragnslcr: create new itself is disabled.21:24
Dragnslcrjuxbox- that's pretty odd21:25
Being_Tsukasaso, how do i manage volume from on the system, rather than with hardwired buttons?21:25
Being_Tsukasaor enable the buttons again?21:25
juxboxptframe@ptframe-laptop:~$ ls -l /home | grep ptframe21:25
juxboxdrwx------ 22 ptframe ptframe  4096 2009-05-19 22:38 ptframe21:25
DragnslcrYeah, permissions look fine21:26
DragnslcrCheck to see if the disk is full, maybe21:26
drbobbuh no, he should be able to write to it as it is21:27
drbobbjuxbox: how did you find you can't write to that dir?21:27
drbobbjuxbox: yeah that was my question too - what failed?21:28
drbobbjuxbox: in a terminal, change to that directory and issue something like `touch qqq' or so21:28
drbobband see what happens21:28
Dragnslcrjuxbox- if I create a directory owned by my user and set the permissions to 700, the Create New option is enabled21:29
juxboxptframe@ptframe-laptop:~$ mkdir delme21:29
juxboxmkdir: cannot create directory `delme': File exists21:29
DragnslcrWell that's an obvious error21:29
juxboxDragnslcr: so what's wrong with my case?21:29
DragnslcrI dunno21:30
Mamarokdf -h21:30
DragnslcrDisk space is the only other thing I can think of offhand21:30
geniiDid you have the file browser open the entire time you were looking at the directory properties/changing them?21:30
DragnslcrCheck something like pwd as a sanity check to make sure you're really in the directory you think you are21:31
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salohcinHalp!21:32
salohcinI logged in and the sound went nuts. It's a just a beeping going on constantly21:33
nixxhello21:33
salohcin!hi21:33
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!21:33
nixx:)21:33
mark___:)21:33
geniisalohcin: Maybe you have a key stuck21:33
nixxi have a problem to install the ati graphic card drivers21:33
salohcingenii: Very much not that kind of beeping21:33
Mamaroknixx: on Jaunty?21:34
salohcingenii: Think a phone left off the hook beeping to be noticed21:34
nixxif i install them and make restart my pc ubuntu freezes before thr login shows up21:34
geniisalohcin: Hm. Some boxes make that sound just before shutting down due to overheati21:35
Mamaroksalohcin: do you have something pressing on the keyboard or the mouse?21:35
salohcingenii: I think it's trying to play the login sound21:35
nixxhmm i'm not sure :) but it's the actuall version21:35
salohcinMamarok: Not that I know of I killed The X server with alt+Sysreq+K since Logging out doesn't work and when I logged in it was doing that21:36
Mamaroknixx: don't use the fglry drivers, they are broken, you need the radeon drivers instead21:36
salohcinI rebooted to see if it would reset the audio driver and it's still doing it21:36
nixxah okay so better i use the official drivers from the ati website right21:36
Mamaroknixx: not, those are broken too21:37
drbobbjuxbox: and `touch qqq' said what?21:37
nixxwant only to be sure because i reinstall everything now the 3rd time :)21:37
juxboxwell21:37
juxboxthe problem is with dolphin and /home/ptframe/Video/video directory21:37
Mamaroknixx: the ATI drivers are broken, they removed support for a lot of cards and fired all the driver developers :(21:37
salohcingenii: The dialout worked like a charm. I logged in and it instantly logged into the network21:38
salohcinMamarok: Wait what?21:38
juxboxi could make a new dir inside it with mkdir, but couldn't with dolphon what would be wrong them?21:38
nixxwoot that sucks21:38
salohcinWhen did they fire the developers? Didn't a new driver just come out sunday?21:38
Mamarokactually, they fired the developers for financial reasons, then removed the supported cards21:38
geniisalohcin: Good, glad to help on that count at least.21:38
geniisalohcin: As for the sound issues, not my strength21:38
salohcincrimsum?21:39
nixxso have i any chance to get them running now !?21:39
phoenixzWhen using the Desktop settings interface to download wallpapers, where are these stored?21:39
phoenixzWhen using the Desktop settings interface to download wallpapers, where are these stored?21:39
phoenixzups21:39
Dragnslcrjuxbox- maybe Dolphin didn't pick up the changed permissions. Try closing Dolphin and starting it again21:39
salohcinphoenixz: somewhere in ~/.kde I think ~/.kde/share/wallpapers21:40
salohcinAnyone knows how to reboot a sound card?21:40
juxboxDragnslcr: but any other direcotory under /home/ptframe is fine only but that one21:40
phoenixzsalohcin: ah, ok..  Is it possible to define these directories somewherE? I have my wallpapers stored on another location..21:40
salohcinphoenixz: Not sure. Check in #ghns ?21:41
phoenixzsalohcin: what channel is that?21:42
Mamarokphoenixz: you can judst add your directory21:42
juxboxok my fault21:42
juxboxi copied it as root. how can i chown it?21:42
salohcinThe channel for the module that the get new wallpapers is built on21:42
nixxhmm is this driver okay ? http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/legacy/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.17&lang=English21:42
salohcinjuxbox: With chown ?21:42
nixxi have a X80021:42
KDeskhi21:42
salohcin!hi | KDesk21:42
ubottuKDesk: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!21:42
juxboxya, chown then what :)21:43
salohcinjuxbox: Then whoever you set it to now owns it21:43
kuruminhgh21:43
noaXesshow do i force a file system check? on eg. next reboot?21:43
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KDeskI am trying to build an amarok 2.0.96 package for jaunty with the PPA system. But I get an error after "dh build", how can I fix this?21:44
KDeskcp: cannot stat `debian/tmp/usr/bin/amarok': No such file or directory21:44
KDeskdh_install: command returned error code 25621:44
geniinoaXess: sudo touch /forcefsck21:45
MamarokKDesk: I would ask on the Launchpad-users list21:45
noaXessgenii: aha.. i thought it's something like this :) thanks21:46
geniinoaXess: np21:46
noaXessgenii: will it be deleted after the fsck?21:46
geniinoaXess: Yes, usually21:46
noaXessokay.21:46
noaXessother problem, inside from kde4.2.3: if i switch to many/fast ALT+TAB then keyboard stops working... any idea, tipps?21:46
Pie`I need some help setting up dual monitors21:47
KDeskMamarok: ok, I will ask, thanks :)21:47
MamarokKDesk: you need qtscriptbindings1 and taglib-extras, do you have those?21:47
nixxmamarok: hmm is this driver okay ? http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/legacy/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.17&lang=English21:48
Mamaroknixx: I don't know21:48
Mamaroknixx: but in general, I don't trust the drivers from AMD, most of the time they make things worse21:49
KDeskMamarok: yes, I have those. libtag-extras-dev and libqtscriptbindings1 as build deps. And the kubuntu-experiental ppa as ppa dependency.21:49
noaXessPie`: what graficcard?21:49
Pie`noaXess: nvidia 8600gt21:50
MamarokKDesk: AFAIK, the Kubuntu devs are already working on packages21:50
nixxokay  kind of sucks last time everything was fine with the drivers :)21:50
nixxanyway let's try it :)21:50
noaXesstry "NVIDIA X Server Settings" from kmenu21:50
KDeskMamarok: ah, that is good to know :)21:50
noaXessPie`: see two lines above ;)21:51
Pie`I don't appear to have that noaXess21:51
MamarokKDesk: but there are problems, you might want to get in touch with them21:52
KDeskMamarok: is there a channel ? kubuntu-devel?21:52
MamarokKDesk: yes21:52
noaXessPie`: install package nvidia-settings: sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings21:53
noaXess!info nvidia | Pie`21:53
KDeskMamarok: ok, thanks!21:53
ubottuPie`: Package nvidia does not exist in jaunty21:53
Pie`I'll have to wait for sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop first :D21:53
MamarokKDesk: you are welcome :)21:53
noaXess!nvidia | Pie`21:53
ubottuPie`: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto21:53
justin___hey i am bored is there anyone interesting to talk to in here21:53
noaXessjustin___: why not?21:53
noaXessjustin___: whats about your ___21:54
Mamarokjustin___, noaXess go to #kubuntu-offtopic21:54
Mamarok!chat21:54
ubottuInstant Messenger Client Kopete (http://kopete.kde.org) supports MSN, Jabber, AIM, YIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and, in KDE 3, IRC. See also !Pidgin21:54
Mamarokright...21:54
Pie`I prefer Pidgin to Kopete21:54
Pie`but thats jsut preference ;)21:54
noaXessMamarok: no problem.. but i stil have my ALT+TAB prolem21:54
MamaroknoaXess: you don't have to leave here, just do the talking elsewhere :)21:55
noaXessi know.. :) the rules21:55
noaXessif i switch to many/fast ALT+TAB then keyboard stops working... any idea, tipps?21:55
drbobbin the add plasmoid dialog, some plasmoids in the list display some sort of hourglass thingy by their names, what does that mean?21:55
MamaroknoaXess: I can't reproduce, sry21:56
Dragnslcrdrbobb- I was wondering that myself21:56
noaXessMamarok: i don't see any entries in log's after keyboard stops working.. if i change to console 1 (CTRL+ALT+1) then my keyboard works.. only a kde/kdm problem21:57
nixxsorry but how can i test again if accelerated 3d works21:57
drbobbIt's not good UI design, using elements many user will have a hard time figuring out the meaning of21:58
FrauHansenHi. Im trying to compile a bluetooth tool using gcc but i'm getting "bluetooth/bluetooth.h : No such file or directory21:59
FrauHansenbut i have all the bluez-stuff installed and even the files are there (located them with find) what am i missing here?22:00
juxboxwhat's the best download manager that integrate into firefox that can resume downloads and can download youtube videos?22:01
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justin___ok so like I went to try and get pidgin but it is talking that I have to build it how do I build it?22:09
MamaroknoaXess: justin___ you don't have to build it, isn't it in the repositories?22:09
Mamarok!pidgin22:09
ubottuThe Instant Messenger Client Pidgin (formerly Gaim) (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Pidgin) supports MSN, XMPP (Jabber, GTalk and variants), AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ, YIM, IRC and others. See also !Kopete22:09
ultrateki downloaded the latest fire fox bz2 because i broke my original installation which wont work via deb and synaptic...how do i extract and where to install?22:11
ultrateki do not have a way of getting on the web now22:12
FrauHansenultratek: why don't you use konqueror until firefox is fixed?22:14
dyn0myt3Try Opera22:15
ultratekso there has been a problem with firefox that is out of my hands anyway?22:15
ultrateki was getting some java script error with speed dial so i disabled it..which happed after running firefox as sudo in termianl22:16
ultratekthen i rebooted and got the sudo firefox responding correctly but not user22:16
ultratekthen it finally broke22:16
Mamarokultratek: why do you run firefox with admin rights?22:17
Mamarokultratek: tried moving .mozilla?22:18
ultratekwell how so and how do i get it back and working cuz it wont even when i install all necessities through synaptic22:18
Mamarokultratek: first of all, there is no reason to run applications with sudo rights, unless it's for system administration22:19
Mamarokultratek: try the following:22:19
Mamarokmv .mozilla/ .mozilla:old/22:20
alex___does anyone have an exe program22:20
Mamarokthen try restarting firefox, but just as a normal user22:20
ultratekwell i was trying to login through firefox into swat as root which wouldnt aceppt root as user  for some reason like before22:20
Mamarokalex___: exe programs are for Windows only22:20
alex___so what do i use22:20
Mamarokalex___: what do you want to do?22:21
dyn0myt3Alex what are you trying to do?22:21
alex___install wine22:21
ultratekmamarok, i did the cmd but i cant start firefox even once it is install because i used: rm -rf /opt22:21
alex___where can i go to install wine22:22
Mamarokultratek: why did you do that?22:22
ultrateksudo apt-get install wine22:22
juxboxanybody having a problem with dolphin? It hangs up frequenly with me.22:22
Mamarokanyway, firefox is not installed in /opt anyway AFAIK22:22
ultratektrying to clear it out completely for new installation22:22
* Mamarok really wonders what goes wrong today, everything works for here...22:23
Mamarokultratek: you should not touch the system folders unless you know what you are doing...22:23
ultratekwell according to a doc on ubuntu.org it is when installing from bz2 i guess22:23
Mamarokultratek: what else did you change?22:23
ultratekwait i rm /opt/firefox not the rest22:24
alex___can some one come into my computer and set me up22:24
Mamarokultratek: firefox is in the repositories, you do not need to compile yourself22:24
justin___what is a repositorie?22:24
Mamarokalex___: baaad idea, unless you really trust somebody22:24
ultrateki know but i cant get it to work from the repositories because i rm the firefox dir22:24
ner0xMy flash does not have sound in firefox, any suggestions?22:25
Mamarokjustin___: it is the folders on the Ubuntu servers where the packages are hosted22:25
alex___mamrok can i trust you22:25
justin___how do i get there?22:25
AronisHello..22:25
Mamarokalex___: I do not do remote support, and I am not a wine specialist22:26
* Mamarok tries to catch up22:26
AronisDoes anyone know how to solve the problem with flash without sound in firefox?22:26
Mamarokplease, everybody, calm down, I try to sort this out, but patience!!!22:27
Mamarokok, ultratek, you first:22:27
Mamarokultratek: you run Jaunty, right?22:27
ultratek64 yes22:28
Mamarokand you know how to use the package manager?22:28
alex___I NEED HELP VERY BAD22:28
Mamarokalex___: patience!22:28
Mamarokalex___: I am alone here and have at least three others who were here first!22:29
alex___mamarok do you go to school22:29
Mamarokalex___: just wait, please22:29
alex___ok22:29
Mamarokultratek: answer?22:29
ultratekk22:29
ultratekyes22:29
ultrateksry i was reading22:30
Mamarokultratek: then remove and install firefox again22:30
alex___i will be right back22:30
ultratekk22:30
Mamarokultratek: and do not go into system folders unless you really know what you do...22:30
Mamarokjustin___: what help do you need?22:31
justin___I am wondering where I go for this repositoie  thingy for downloads22:31
ultratekmamarok, it is doing what it did before the lil hourglass spinning thing for the mouse comes up for a while and nothing happens22:32
Mamarokultratek: the package manager?22:32
ultratekmamarok when i go to start firefox22:33
Mamarokjustin___: the repositories are configured by default, got to system settings -> "Add or remove software" and use the search field22:33
ultratekafter pkgmanager22:33
Mamarokultratek: did you read what I told you earlier?22:33
ultratekrm then install22:33
ultrateki already had it rm22:33
ner0xReinstall firefox to fix the flash problem?22:34
Mamarokultratek: no, I didn't tell you that at all22:34
ultrateksry22:34
Mamarokultratek: I told you to remove and install firefox using the package manager, do *not* remove packages manually22:34
ner0xMamarok: Got your hands full? hah22:34
ryanakcajustin___: To add and remove programs?22:34
ultrateki did do it through the pkg manager22:34
ign0ramusner0x, flash is not working in firefox?22:35
Mamarokner0x: this was not an advice for you, read correctly!22:35
ryanakcaoops, already answered, nevermind22:35
ultratekyesterday was the only thing i erased-firefox using rm22:35
justin___I dont see it on the list22:35
Mamarokultratek: never do that, that's not how it works22:35
ultratekk22:36
Mamarokryanakca: could you help out?22:36
alex___back22:36
ryanakcaMamarok: yes, with whom?22:36
ner0xign0ramus: Correct.22:36
ign0ramusner0x, are you on 64bit version?22:36
ner0xMamarok: I know it wasn't. Thought I may have stumble upon the channel after it was asked.22:36
Mamarokryanakca: well, nearly everybody right now, I need a coffee first22:36
ner0xign0ramus: Yes.22:36
ign0ramusner0x, did you upgrade to jaunty or fresh install?22:37
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ner0xign0ramus: Fresh install.22:37
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AronisMamarok: Have you ever faced this kind of problem with flash without sound in firefox?22:37
ign0ramusner0x, ok we'll try the basics ... do "sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-* --purge"22:37
alex___no22:37
ign0ramusner0x, then do: "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"22:38
MamarokAronis: yes, numerous times, but it was related to the flash plugin most of the times22:38
* Mamarok doesn't need a coffee but a bed...22:38
ign0ramusner0x, then restart firefox... try youtube or something...22:38
ner0xPackage manager is just a frontend for apt?22:38
ryanakcaultratek: Did you get your issue with firefox solved?22:38
juxboxis there a way to safe remove flash drives?22:38
ultratekno22:39
Aronisi believe so, but i've tried all possibilities found on google, do you have any idea?22:39
ultrateki got the firefox dir back into opt22:39
ryanakcaner0x: Yes, which is a front end for dpkg, if I'm not mistaken22:39
ner0xryanakca: So many. :)22:39
ultratekfrom a compile of the downloaded file22:39
ryanakcaultratek: That isn't supported here, please ask in #firefox22:40
ner0xign0ramus: Okay, no flash at all now.22:40
ign0ramusner0x, you did "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"?22:40
ner0xign0ramus: Yeah, I just noticed. Didn't see that, sorry. ONe moment.22:40
ultratekk22:40
ign0ramusner0x, k22:40
ryanakcaultratek: If you want to uninstall that version of firefox and install the one that (K)Ubuntu distributes then we can help you.22:40
ner0xign0ramus: This installs proprietary drivers?22:41
ner0xign0ramus: software* sorry.22:41
AronisMamarok: i believe so, but i've tried all possibilities found on google, do you have any idea?22:41
ign0ramusner0x, well, the kubuntu packaged ones, yes22:41
ign0ramusner0x, hence the "nonfree"22:41
ultratekk,, i will got to # firefox, thank you all22:41
MamarokAronis: please ask sombody else, I'm off for today, sry22:41
ryanakcaAronis: do any other sound applications work?22:41
Aronisyes, perfectly22:42
Aronisjust flash videos on firefox dont22:42
ryanakcaAronis: How did you install flash?22:42
ner0xign0ramus: It doesn't seem to work now.22:42
juxboxso how can i install the cli version only of mplayer?22:42
ign0ramusner0x, ok... close firefox22:42
Aronisdonwloading at adobe website22:42
ign0ramusner0x, do: "sudo apt-get remove --purge swfdec-mozilla swfdec-gnome mozilla-plugin-gnash gnash22:42
Aronisthe .deb file22:43
ryanakcaAronis: ok, what was the name of the deb file?22:43
ner0xign0ramus: None installed.22:43
ign0ramusner0x, is anything marked for removal?22:43
ign0ramusner0x, ok22:43
ryanakcajuxbox: install mplayer-nogui if I remember correctly22:43
ign0ramusner0x, are you running compiz?22:43
ner0xign0ramus: I believe so.22:43
Aronisryanakca: install_flash_player_10_linux.deb22:44
ign0ramusner0x, well, it makes a difference if you are... so...22:44
ign0ramusner0x, if you are, do: "sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager"22:44
ner0xign0ramus: ign0ramus KDE 4.2 with the gfx features, so I would assume so.22:44
ign0ramusner0x, those are powered by kwin, i believe22:44
AronisI solved! it was just the channel on mixer that was mute22:44
ner0xign0ramus: I believe it uses compiz though.22:45
AronisPCM channel22:45
ign0ramusner0x, ok, then do the command above for compiz settings22:45
ryanakcaAronis: what does ``sudo dpkg -r install_flash_player_10_linux.deb'' do?22:45
ner0xign0ramus: Okay, it's installed.22:45
Aronisit is supposed do reinstall the driver22:46
Aronisbut it seems to be okay now22:46
ign0ramusner0x, now if you run "compizconfig-settings-manager", you should be able to disable22:46
ryanakcaAronis: Hmm? No, Uninstall the version you manually installed, then22:46
ryanakca!flash | Aronis22:46
Aronisthank you22:46
ubottuAronis: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash22:46
ign0ramus"Undirect Full Screen Windows" ner0x22:46
ner0xign0ramus: Aapparently kwin rewrote their own compiz drivers.22:48
Aronisubottu: I know that, I work ubuntu for years, now I am tring to like KDE22:48
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)22:48
ign0ramusner0x, so that command does not help you?22:48
ner0xign0ramus: Does not. Sorry.22:48
ign0ramusner0x, ok... we'll try from the source, then. do: "sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-* --purge" again22:48
ner0xign0ramus: ign0ramus done.22:49
ign0ramusner0x, get 64bit Flash from Adobe: http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/libflashplayer-10.0.22.87.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz22:49
ner0xign0ramus: I can not automate this?22:49
ner0xign0ramus: I must install manually?22:49
ign0ramusner0x, well, we've tried the packaged versions, and they don't seem to help...22:50
ner0xign0ramus: Okay. Where should I put the library?22:51
ign0ramusner0x, "cd" to the Directory where you've downloaded the package, and do: "tar -xzvf  libflashplayer-10.0.22.87.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz"22:51
ner0xI got the file out of the tar archive.22:51
ign0ramusner0x, place the extracted folder in ~/.mozilla/plugins22:51
ign0ramusner0x, if that folder doesn't exist, create it22:52
ign0ramusner0x, then restart firefox22:52
ner0xign0ramus: .. oh my god..22:52
ign0ramuswell.. ?22:53
ner0xign0ramus: Apparently by default flash uses a different channel rather than the default one for sound.22:53
ner0xIt was just me moving the volume up.22:53
ner0xign0ramus: How dumb is that.22:53
ign0ramusner0x, hahaha!22:53
ign0ramusner0x, PCM22:53
ner0xign0ramus: I have intel HD audio, everything else goes to another device..22:53
ner0xBy default.22:53
ner0xI'd like to install non-free again.22:54
ner0xIf I can, I"m sure it'll work now. :(22:54
* ner0x grumbles.22:54
ign0ramusner0x, just remove the file from ~/.mozilla/plugins and do "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"22:54
ign0ramusner0x, lol22:54
ner0xign0ramus: Now that doesn't make me dumb!22:54
ner0xThat's poor planning on the software's part.22:54
ign0ramusner0x, not really.... i should have asked, but i thought you weren't getting flash to work *at all*22:55
ign0ramusner0x, i was just trying to take the load off Mamarok22:55
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ner0xI'm by no means a n00b. :) This is the first thing that was a problem...22:55
ner0xI can't believe it defaults to a different device.22:55
* ner0x grumbles again.22:55
ign0ramusner0x, by default, Flash plugin uses OSS, which for your purposes, can be controlled by PCM volume slider22:55
ner0xign0ramus: OSS is deprecated is it not?22:56
ign0ramusner0x, also, to change default sound slider, you can right click on kmix icon and Set Default Master22:56
ner0xign0ramus: I default it to "Master" so I can control all of them.22:56
ign0ramusner0x, OSS is still the layer that directly communicates with hardware22:56
ner0xign0ramus: I'll just move PCM up to max22:57
ner0xign0ramus: I thought replaced by alsa?22:57
ign0ramusner0x, generally it goes: Sound Device > OSS > Alsa > Pulse Audio22:57
ign0ramusner0x, which is a freakin mess :/22:57
ner0xign0ramus: Yeah, that is pretty bad.22:57
ign0ramusner0x, i personally hate Pulse, but the devs insist its more flexible.22:58
ner0xign0ramus: alsa always worked for me.22:58
ign0ramusner0x, me too ;)22:58
ign0ramusner0x, and (once you found out how), it was easy to configure22:58
ner0xign0ramus: Well, I lied. Sometimes I can't figure out the sound. hah22:59
ign0ramusner0x, who expects mute as a default?22:59
ner0xign0ramus: Not I.22:59
ign0ramusner0x, you and a million others that had the same problem :)22:59
ner0xign0ramus: I bet. I like kubuntu so far. No hiccups23:00
ign0ramusner0x, what kind of graphics do you have?23:00
ner0xign0ramus: Define graphics? Driver? Card? Pretty GUI things?23:00
ign0ramusner0x, intel, ati, or nvidia?23:00
ner0xign0ramus: nvidia23:00
ign0ramusner0x, that's why you like kubuntu :)23:01
ner0xati and intel not so friendly?23:01
ign0ramusner0x, if you had ati or intel you'd be agonizing over workarounds and other hacks23:01
ign0ramusner0x, not yet, it isn't23:01
ner0xNvidia has long been better supported in the linux community.23:01
ign0ramusner0x, i have an unsupported kernel and a PPA for intel drivers, just to have a usuable desktop23:01
ner0xign0ramus: Ick.23:02
ign0ramusner0x, it works well now, so not too bad... i just hope these are fixed for Karmic23:02
ner0xKarmic?23:02
ner0xNext Release?23:02
ign0ramusner0x, Jaunty (KDE version) was a lot of new changes and re-writes23:02
ign0ramusner0x, yup23:02
ner0xign0ramus: What's the release date?23:03
ign0ramusner0x, October23:03
ner0xign0ramus: Not to far away. Every 6 months?23:03
ign0ramusner0x, yup23:03
ign0ramusner0x, which is sometimes a bad thing... devs have to rush to put out an OS that may or may not be ready23:03
ner0xign0ramus: Yeah, sometimes you can't rush that stuff.23:09
silentstri16_is there a wasy to build a pre-built environment with kubuntu? a program or something?23:14
piccolino_sera23:15
zmityahi all23:16
zmityaI have a fresh jaunty install23:16
zmityain KDE I'm unable to create a panel in my right side of my screen23:16
ubuntui was woundering how does someone combind 2 80 gig's and make it 160 gig of hard drive space on there computer???23:17
zmityait puts to the top, but I can't move it to the right side of my screen somehow23:17
zmityacan sy please help me ?23:17
zmityaubuntu: with raid 0 or with LVM23:17
ubuntui don't know much about computer's srry to say23:17
silentstri16_can anyone tell me if there is a program/tool/suite of tools to build a pre-built environment so I can retrieve data from the computer i believe  is affected23:18
ubuntuthe hard drives r both westerns23:18
ner0xubuntu: You don't combine them?23:18
ubuntuthen how can i get 160 gig's from them???23:19
ner0xubuntu: You don't "get" it, it's already there.23:19
ubuntui know that there is a way to make 2 80 gig's into 160 gig but i don't know how to do that, though23:19
ubuntunot in window's23:19
zmityaubuntu: do you mean 16-G in one big "partition" ?23:20
zmityaubuntu: do you mean 160G in one big "partition" ?23:20
ubuntuyes23:20
zmityaubuntu: with raid 0 or with LVM23:20
ubuntueither on23:20
ubuntuone23:20
ubuntui don't know what raid 0 or with LVM mean's srry to say23:20
ubuntui don't know much about computer's but i'm gonna learn ,thnx to u guy's help  ^_^23:21
zmityawell, not really easy to tell it in a few lines23:21
zmityalets google for that23:21
ubuntui did google and nothing, that's why i'm here23:21
zmityausually you want to do it install time, but it is possible to do it with an existing OS23:21
ubuntuok23:22
ner0xubuntu: Are you on linux right now?23:22
zmityaubuntu: http://ds9a.nl/lvm-howto/HOWTO//cvs/lvm-howto/output/lvm-howto.html#toc223:22
larssome idées about getting s-video port to be recognized?23:22
ubuntukubuntu live disc is what i'm us'n right now to talk to u guy's becuz i don't have a os on the computer rite now23:22
ubuntuwhat's the link?23:23
zmityaubuntu that is good... choose manual partitioning and there will be an LVM possibility somewhere23:23
zmityasorry can't help you in more detailed23:23
ubuntuok but what about for WINDOW'S???23:24
zmityaubuntu: ??23:25
lovrehow do i know what opengl i have installed?23:25
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zmityaon windows lets buy a HW raid card, setup raid0 and install windows on it and go to #windows I think23:26
ubuntui was using window's and i wanted to put both of my hard drives that are both 80 gig's into 160 gig of hard drive space from installing window's23:26
dyn0myt3http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_Volume_Manager_(Linux)23:27
wirechieflovre: what does this give you ? glxinfo |grep version23:31
lovreserver glx version string: 1.423:32
lovreclient glx version string: 1.423:32
lovreGLX version: 1.323:32
lovreOpenGL version string: 2.1.2 NVIDIA 180.4423:32
lovreOpenGL shading language version string: 1.20 NVIDIA via Cg compiler23:32
wirechieflovre well this more like what you are wanting ....dpkg -l |grep opengl23:34
winterelfhi . need help please... my kubuntu stack after the grub, when the screen with the "kubuntu" name is in the middle and the scroll blue line that goes back and forward freeze too... i booted from live cd  and removed the name "splash" from the menu.lst so i could see the problam, and i booted again from grub , after this it says some wierd error of 4 lines and than just rapeat on the same error again and again .. so i guess this is for the freeze... anyone 23:38
ign0ramuswinterelf, the exact error could prove helpful23:40
lovrewirechief: ty23:40
rmrfslashOh snap!!! New fglrx (Catalyst 9.5) on AMD website!23:42
rmrfslash:D23:42
rmrfslashIf this actually works, I might claim to have the perfect Linux installation on a laptop :)23:43
rmrfslashEverything working.23:43
rmrfslashSkype video/audio, DVD playback, hardware accel, resume/suspend, USB Broadband internet, WiFi, and more.23:44
winterelfign0ramus: i will write the error but it won't look good23:45
winterelfata3: status : {ddrdy err}23:45
winterelfata3: error: {unc}23:45
winterelfata3:exception emask 0x0 sAct 0x0 serr 0x0 action 0x023:45
winterelfata3:bmdma stat 0x2423:45
winterelfata3:cmd 25/00:00:3f:b0:c9/00:04:1c:00:00:e0 tag o dma ....23:45
ign0ramuswinterelf, well, could be a bad HDD... do you have any other OS's on this computer?23:47
winterelfign0ramus:i have windows working... it's a laptop23:49
ign0ramuswinterelf, ok, let's make a backup first... do: "sudo cp /etc/modprobe.d/options /etc/modprobe.d/options.bak"23:50
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winterelfho, but i m on my laptop right now, and i can run kubuntu only if i m running it under live cd...23:53
ign0ramuswinterelf, you can get it running on livecd?23:53
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winterelfyes... i will move to another computer and i will be back in here . ok?23:54
ign0ramuswinterelf, ok23:54
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phoenixzIs there some place  / repo where I could find newer versions of either Firefox (3.1), Amarok (2.1) or Quassel (just anything newer) ?23:59
phoenixzCurrent versions of these softwares (with exception of firefox) suck badly..23:59

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