[00:00] <bruce_> what does PITA mean?
[00:01] <white_pelican> Pain In The A$$
[00:01] <bruce_> oh
[00:03] <Virk> bruce_: you know, like kebab
[00:04] <bruce_> whats a kebab?
[00:05] <Virk> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kebab (northern african food, often called pita)
[00:05] <bruce_> oh yes I know about that
[00:05] <justyup> pita bread?
[00:05] <bruce_> yes, it's sold in stores here
[00:06] <Virk> silly joke :p
[00:08] <bruce_> ok, so does anyone know why kate and kpackagekit crash when I exet them? Is it a bug??
[00:08] <bruce_> exit
[00:12] <Shadoze> Does anyone know how to install the new openoffice in kubuntu jaunty, just when i try i gives me blocked updates for openoffice 3.1
[00:14] <ralmar> Hey guys, I have a little concern. The only network-related app that I am running right now (apart from this irc client) is the Deluge bittorrent client. According to Deluge I am uploading at about 2.6 KB/s, but if I open the System Monitor, and go to the Resource tab, it says I am uploading at about between 7.7 and 16 KB/s (it fluctuates quite a bit). Why could this be? Could there be a nasty app or tro
[00:14] <ralmar> jan that is running and uploading files? Thanks
[00:15] <sere> anyone know a name of a good ftp server ...im trying to transfer files to my pda via wireless
[00:18] <Mist_> hmm.. seems  amarok mess upp /dev/dsp etc. and now sound stopped working in firefox youtube videos etc. Hmm or even all sound .
[00:20] <invite> hmmm dunno if it's the right place to ask but I'm under kubuntu after all
[00:20] <invite> My wlan switch is almost dead
[00:20] <invite> so i bought an usb key to replace it
[00:21] <invite> but I can't connect as long as the wlan adapter (an intel one using iwl3945)
[00:21] <invite> is turned off !
[00:22] <invite> to resume : I bought the usb adapter but can't use it as long as the builtin wlan switch is off!
[00:23] <invite> dmesg shows Kill switch must be turned off for wireless networking to work.
[00:24] <Mist_> hmm.. so when system tells sound device doesnt work after closing amarok and switching to side speakers.. only  option is to reboot or restart process in 9.04?
[00:24] <Mist_> (why does the sound always have to work this crappy for in GNU/Linux =/ )
[00:25] <alexshenoy> okay anybody running jaunty having problems installing the 4.3 beta
[00:25] <JontheEchidna> problems? Of what nature?
[00:25] <alexshenoy> like it wont install
[00:25] <alexshenoy> ill pastebin it
[00:26] <JontheEchidna> that would be useful :)
[00:26] <alexshenoy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/175267/
[00:27] <alexshenoy> today has been a killer and im kinda running short on patience
[00:27] <alexshenoy> :-/ not good, i know, but its just getting annoying
[00:27] <JontheEchidna> oops, forgot to push that fix to the PPA...
[00:27] <JontheEchidna> in the meantime
[00:28] <JontheEchidna> sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-runtime-data_4%3a4.2.85-0ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa6_all.deb && sudo apt-get install -f
[00:28] <ralmar> Anyone know how I can see what process is making a certain connection. I know the local and remote ports and the remote ip.thanks
[00:29] <alexshenoy> JontheEchidna: http://paste.ubuntu.com/175270/ still having problems :-(
[00:30] <JontheEchidna> alexshenoy: ok, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade now
[00:31] <JontheEchidna> that should hopefully correct itself now
[00:31] <alexshenoy> okay. looks to be working. thanks man. really appreciate it
[00:32] <yaris123456789> hey guys i need to get and install PyKDE 3 and PyQt 3 + KDE libs. can someone help ?
[00:32] <alexshenoy> nope
[00:33] <JontheEchidna> alexshenoy: I believe python-kde3 and python-qt3 are the packages you want
[00:33] <JontheEchidna> er
[00:33] <JontheEchidna> yaris123456789: ^
[00:33] <JontheEchidna> sorry about that alex
[00:34] <alexshenoy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/175272/
[00:34] <JontheEchidna> anyway, I uploaded the fix for that kdebase-runtime-data bug. Once that builds nobody should run in to that particular problem again
[00:34]  * JontheEchidna looks at the new one
[00:37] <JontheEchidna> alexshenoy: similar solution, sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite name_of_all_the_debs_go_here
[00:38] <yaris123456789> btw, what is X display? how do i know if i need to install xvfb
[00:38] <JontheEchidna> hmm, but why is it doing that? ksysguard is already a replacement for kdebase-workspace-bin from KDE 4.2...
[00:38] <JontheEchidna> quite puzziling
[00:38] <JontheEchidna> *puzzling
[00:39] <JontheEchidna> oh, I modified the replaces version for the ksysguardd package, not the ksysguard one, silly me :/
[00:39] <JontheEchidna> alexshenoy: by the way, would you mind pasting the whole log? The one you pasted only had the actual error for the ksysguard deb
[00:40] <alexshenoy> from the last error?
[00:41] <JontheEchidna> yeah, from the last error. Several packages failed to install but the only actual error that I can see is from ksysguard
[00:41] <JontheEchidna> the errors appear in the log as they occur, then dpkg reports all packages that failed at the end
[00:42] <alexshenoy> JontheEchidna: http://paste.ubuntu.com/175277/
[00:42] <JontheEchidna> great, thanks
[00:43] <alexshenoy> no problem
[00:43] <alexshenoy> thanks
[00:47] <sere> whats a good ftp server /w a gui
[00:49] <desu> sere: server with a gui?
[00:49] <desu> O_o
[00:49] <desu> o_O
[00:49] <desu> lol...
[00:49] <desu> hmm... there might be one... but none that i'm aware of :/
[00:50] <Zorael> serv-u flashbacks from ~97. :3
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> sere: proftpd will lock users to their home directorys if you like, its simple to setup
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> sere: no need for a silly gui which isnt really advised on a server
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> sere: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/settingup-an-ftp-server-on-ubuntu-with-proftpd.html
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> sere: this is a better guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51611
[01:02] <sere> ActionParsnip: ty
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> sere: np, its easy stuff dude. no need for a gui, plus you can configure it via ssh
[01:07] <robin0800> Temp? fix foe wpa bug Launchpad bug 378145 in plasma-widget-network-manager "plasma widget networkmanager couldn't connect wpa"
[01:30] <ubuntu> ola
[01:31] <ubuntu> quero saber agumas coisas ?
[01:32] <desu> !it
[01:33] <Pici> !br | ubuntu
[01:34] <ubuntu> deixa eu falar a minha lingua por favor porque tenho que falar sua ?
[01:38] <Taggnostr> hello
[01:38] <ActionParsnip> !es | ubuntu
[01:38] <Taggnostr> I dist-upgraded and I'm having several issues with kde4
[01:38] <Taggnostr> for example I can't resize any window
[01:39] <ActionParsnip> Taggnostr: does it happen with all users
[01:39] <Taggnostr> I only have one user
[01:40] <ActionParsnip> Taggnostr: make another
[01:40] <ActionParsnip> Taggnostr: you can have multiple users on one computer
[01:40] <Taggnostr> I can toggle the fullscreen, but when I try to drag a corner or a side it just doesn't work
[01:41] <Taggnostr> ActionParsnip, I know, can I create one, try it and then deleted it without logging off from here?
[01:41] <ActionParsnip> Taggnostr: i dont think so, you'll have to log off then log on as the new user
[01:42] <ActionParsnip> !adduser
[01:42] <Taggnostr> and also, what is that button on the top-left of the windows, in the titlebar?
[01:43] <Taggnostr> is there some page that summarizes the changes introduces by kde4?
[01:45] <ActionParsnip> !changes
[01:49] <younix> kde 4.3 beta 1 is avialable
[01:50] <younix> Unpacking replacement kdebase-runtime-data ...
[01:50] <younix> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-runtime-data_4%3a4.2.85-0ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa7_all.deb (--unpack):
[01:50] <younix>  trying to overwrite `/usr/share/kde4/apps/kstyle/themes/oxygen.themerc', which is also in package kde-icons-oxygen
[01:50] <younix> it gives me that error :S
[01:51] <ActionParsnip> younix: you could force the deb install which will overwrite the identical file with the one in the package
[01:51] <younix> how do i do that?
[01:51] <younix> i have already try apt-get -f dist-upgrade
[01:51] <ActionParsnip> younix: sudo dpkg --force-all -i /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-runtime-data_4%3a4.2.85-0ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa7_all.deb
[01:51] <XVampireX> Hi
[01:52] <XVampireX> I'm having the same problem, lol
[01:53] <ActionParsnip> can you submit a bug for the file overwrite issue
[01:59] <XVampireX> Damn it's called dependency hell :D
[01:59] <XVampireX> brb
[02:01] <ActionParsnip> There is a reason its beta btw, its going to be buggy and crash a lot
[02:01] <desu> ooo fix has been released :D
[02:07] <sere> hey all
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> hi sere
[02:07] <desu> hi sere~~~~~~~
[02:08] <sere> anyone have any knowledge with proftpd i keep getting a 530 login incorrect and not sure y i think im intering in everything right
[02:08] <sere> desu. im loving that script :)
[02:08] <desu> there's a slight problem with that script :P
[02:08] <desu> it'll break for all files with have spaces or some other special characters in the name...
[02:09] <desu> so, replace $x with "$x" everywhere
[02:09] <sere> 10/4 ty ")
[02:09] <desu> sorry, didn't think of special characters earlier
[02:10] <sere> no worries im happy its just working
[02:10] <sere> as soon as i get proftp to work i can transfer movies to my ipaq :)
[02:15] <tsukasa__> hello how i know the vertion of my desktop
[02:17] <Dragnslcr> tsukasa__- Version of Kubuntu? Of KDE?
[02:18] <tsukasa__> Dragnslcr: i have  kubuntu 9.0.4
[02:19] <Dragnslcr> Okay, so what are you looking for?
[02:19] <tsukasa__> but ithis kde have to much bugs
[02:19] <tsukasa__> must of things are graphic
[02:19] <tsukasa__> so a friend tell me thatt change the kde to a previus ver
[02:20] <tsukasa__> but how  i can do that?
[02:20] <Dragnslcr> Check Help -> About in most KDE programs
[02:20] <Dragnslcr> (K Menu -> Help is a good one to check)
[02:21] <tsukasa__> Versión 4.2.2 (KDE 4.2.2)
[02:22] <Dragnslcr> Yup, that's the one that comes with Kubuntu 9.04
[02:22] <tsukasa__> how i change to a  one more stable
[02:22] <tsukasa__> cause this one have a lot of bugs
[02:23] <Dragnslcr> You can try installing 4.2.3
[02:24] <Dragnslcr> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2.3
[02:24] <AlexZion> yeah , probably is much better.... I'm using it and it looks to be more stable...
[02:26] <tsukasa__> i just use the sofftware package
[02:27] <tsukasa__> or there is any comand line  tto installed?
[02:27] <Taggnostr> is there a way to set a gradient as background on kde4?
[02:28] <Taggnostr> there's only image, slideshow and color. if I select color I can specify only one single color
[02:29] <tsukasa__> in the update software dont appear the update for he desktop
[02:31] <suci> mmm
[02:33] <Dragnslcr> tsukasa__- http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2.3
[02:34] <tsukasa__> :S i screw the kpackagekit
[02:37] <tsukasa__> i get an error now that say you must rebuild the package cahe list this must be do it auto by <<backend>>
[02:40] <tsukasa__> Package cache could not be opened
[02:55] <tsukasa> how i fix the package sofware kit the cachelist
[03:04] <katie> hi all
[03:04] <katie> silly question: what does system/preferences/sound mean in jaunty?
[03:07] <Dragnslcr> No clue
[03:07] <Foor> Ok KDE People im a huge gnome fan but i have to say this new kubuntu is one hell of a neat desktop
[03:08] <katie> oh man it is
[03:08] <user_> hello
[03:09] <user_> can i get support here for 8.04? i would like someone to spend 5 min with me regarding tquid
[03:11] <user_> !help
[03:12] <user_> hello?
[03:12] <user_> can someone moderator tell me what i can do to get someone to assit?
[03:13] <Pici> user_: You may want to try asking in #ubuntu as well, seeing as #kubuntu is not very active tonight.
[03:13] <Dragnslcr> First step is usually to ask a question
[03:13] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, I was about to say that there aren't many people around right now
[03:13] <user_> ah ok
[03:16] <user_> QUESTION:  I have set up the squid proxy server, and get an error. conf file has only 2 lines in it...
[03:20] <user_> i get error bungled squid.conf line 3 http_access deny all  however this is not even in the conf file. in conf file  is LINE 1 http_port 8888 LINE 2 visible_hostname squ. These are the only 2 lines in file.
[03:20] <user_> file located at /etc/squid/squid.conf
[03:23] <wizardslovak> can i install .jar on kubuntu??
[03:24] <Dragnslcr> I don't think .jar files install
[03:24] <Dragnslcr> I thought they just ran through Java
[03:28] <wizardslovak> how to install java tho?
[03:28] <jkells> Hi, is the network management applet that comes with kubuntu provided by kubuntu or is it from kde upstream?
[03:29] <jkells> I just switched to an svn build of kde and there doesn't seam to be any way of configuring a wireless network
[03:29] <jkells> Looks like there is a network-manager applet in playground but not in kde itself
[03:37] <Dragnslcr> !java | wizardslovak
[03:37] <wizardslovak> i got java but i still wont be able to install .jar
[03:40] <Dragnslcr> If you right-click the .jar and go to Open With, one of the options should be for a Java runtime
[03:41] <navetz_> guys my digital camera records videos that are extreamly large, is there a way i can make them smaller without losing to much quality?
[03:43] <Dragnslcr> navetz_- sure, but I can't think of the name of a program offhand. Google could probably give you names if you search for something like "kde video editor"
[03:44] <navetz_> Dragnslcr:okay thanks
[03:45] <Dragnslcr> navetz_- I just did a quick search of the package list, and I know kdenlive is one I've heard of
[03:46] <fornix> i installed kubuntu-desktop on to of ubuntu and now i have kde and gnome both. I have logged into kde. The compiz effects don't seem to work. is compiz compatible with kde or do i have to stay with kwin. or does kwin support compiz like effects. I want the cube feature.
[03:46] <navetz_> Dragnslcr: yea i found it, I am installing now thanks :D
[03:46] <Dragnslcr> fornix- KDE4 does its own compositing, so you don't normally need compiz
[03:47] <dyn0myt3> i m new, but if u have compiz you also need qt and designer, from what  i have read
[03:47] <fornix> Dragnslcr: so how do i enable the features like desktop cube and fire while minimizing, etc
[03:47] <Dragnslcr> dyn0myt3- sorry, that doesn't make much sense. Compiz and Qt have little to do with each other
[03:48] <dyn0myt3> hm
[03:48] <Dragnslcr> fornix- System Settings -> Desktop has the advanced effects
[03:48] <Dragnslcr> fornix- unfortunately, kwin doesn't have the burn effect yet
[03:49] <fornix> Dragnslcr: does it have wobbly windows?
[03:49] <Dragnslcr> fornix- yup
[03:50] <fornix> oh cool. found it under System Settings -> Desktop -> All effects
[03:50] <Dragnslcr> There's some pretty neat stuff in there
[03:50] <Dragnslcr> I do miss my blue burn though
[03:52] <wizardslovak> i got problem with wine
[03:52] <wizardslovak> i cant browse c drive
[03:53] <fornix> Dragnslcr: thanks for the help. i got my much awaited desktop cube.
[03:55] <Dragnslcr> fornix- one thing I learned is that the default layout for the desktops is 2x2, and it seems that the only way to change that is with the Pager plasmoid
[04:04] <corigo> What is the name of the non 3g NTFS driver that uses the actual MS ntfs.sys file?
[04:05] <kalorin> hhe
[04:05] <kalorin> quassel irc/
[04:05] <kalorin> that 's new
[04:06] <kalorin> interesting
[04:07] <kalorin> ah yes, sweet sweet konversation :)
[04:08] <luis_> alguem sabe me informar como posso fazer minha placa sis funcionar 3d no kubuntu 9.04
[04:08] <luis_> alguem sabe me informar como posso fazer minha placa sis funcionar 3d no kubuntu 9.04
[04:08] <Dragnslcr> !es | luis_
[04:09] <luis_> thanks
[04:09] <Bold`> hello
[05:01] <keyser_soze> date
[05:12] <corigo> Alternate NTFS system to 3g?
[05:18] <eagles0513875> !fuser | corigo
[05:18] <eagles0513875> !info fuser | corigo
[05:19] <eagles0513875> !ntfs
[05:19] <eagles0513875> corigo: ^^
[05:20] <corigo> !fuse
[05:25] <corigo> eagles0513875: the answer I was looking for was captive ntfs. Project is no longer active and doesn't support 64bit. ntfs-3g is really the only viable option right now, but it doesn't support ntfs jounaling
[05:25] <eagles0513875> :(
[05:48] <infinity_> hello
[05:48] <infinity_> I've gotten myself into trouble with my Kubuntu
[05:49] <infinity_> I had an Nvidia 6600GT installed and everything was fine
[05:49] <infinity_> But then I put a HD3850 in and made a bit of a mess of things I think
[05:49] <infinity_> I changed my xorg to "vesa" so I could get KDE up
[05:50] <infinity_> but it was very slow and never really got me to the desktop properly
[05:50] <infinity_> I could get a bash prompt so I installed fgrlx
[05:50] <infinity_> I didn't remove the nvidia driver first
[05:51] <infinity_> Then when things still werent working I decided I'd try again tomorrow... I changed my xorg back to nvidia and put my 6600 back in
[05:51] <infinity_> Of course it still has fgrlx
[05:51] <infinity_> now I'm totally stuffed
[05:51] <eagles0513875> infinity_: i kinda had an issue similar to yours
[05:52] <infinity_> Doesn't matter which card I use now... I can't even get to a bash prompt
[05:52] <eagles0513875> i used a newer nvidia driver for my 8800gt with out uninstalling the old borked my whole x grated i could get to a bash prompt
[05:52] <infinity_> (I'm typing this from work)
[05:52] <eagles0513875> for me i ended up doing a clean install
[05:52] <infinity_> If I could get a bash prompt I think I can fix it from there
[05:53] <infinity_> but if I cant get a prompt I'm pretty much screwed
[05:53] <infinity_> Well... I guess I can back up some stuff to another drive and reinstall
[05:53] <eagles0513875> can you ssh into the rig
[05:54] <infinity_> I can boot a live cd on it
[05:54] <infinity_> I'm at work, and its not powered on atm anyway.
[05:55] <eagles0513875> you can try it that was also try and ssh from another machine onto it
[05:55] <infinity_> I guess that might work
[05:55] <infinity_> I've never done ssh
[05:56] <infinity_> But if I can get into it with a prompt then I figure I can fix my xorg and remove the nvidia and fgrlx drivers... and maybe I can get things up and running
[05:56] <eagles0513875> infinity_: on a windows machine you will need a program called putty which will allow you to ssh onto the machine
[05:57] <infinity_> yes we have putty
[06:00] <eagles0513875> question becomes are you on a static or dynamic ip
[06:10] <tsimpson> infinity_: just boot into rescue mode to get a root shell
[06:13] <dylan_> how do I get klauncher in xubuntu 9.04 ?
[06:13] <infinity_> tsimpson: is there a keyboard shortcut for that ?
[06:13] <tsimpson> infinity_: you choose it at boot, from grub
[06:13] <infinity_> tsimpson: really ?
[06:13] <tsimpson> infinity_: hold down escape while grub is loading and you'll get a menu
[06:14] <infinity_> oooh
[06:14] <tsimpson> you'll see an option to boot into "rescue mode"
[06:14] <infinity_> you might have saved my life :D
[06:14] <eagles0513875> dylan_: please ask in #xubuntu
[06:15] <infinity_> tsimpson: from there, if I remove fgrlx and the nvidia driver, then use a generic xorg backup I should be ok then right ?
[06:16] <tsimpson> infinity_: should be, just type "exit" when you're done and it'll boot into normal graphical mode
[06:16] <infinity_> tsimpson: thanks !
[06:16] <infinity_> tsimpson: I'll try this when I get home... I might even get that HD3850 up and running after all
[06:17] <infinity_> On the slowness issue: has anyone else had problems with the HD 3850 ?
[06:17] <infinity_> fgrlx is supposed to support it I think
[06:17] <infinity_> but it was wierd
[06:18] <infinity_> !fgrlx
[06:18] <infinity_> umm
[06:18] <tsimpson> !ati
[06:18] <infinity_> !ati
[06:19] <infinity_> thanks tsimpson, I really wanted to rescue my system rather than have to reinstall
[06:19] <tsimpson> !fglrx is <alias> binarydriver
[06:19] <tsimpson> ummk
[06:20] <eagles0513875> haha stupid bot
[06:20] <infinity_> lol
[06:20] <tsimpson> no, stupid me reading, !fgrlx is not !fglrx
[06:20] <infinity_> this is wierd
[06:20] <tsimpson> the bot never lies, unless I tell it to
[06:20] <infinity_> Im on this system tha thas onboard graphics
[06:20] <infinity_> I'm convinced they suck (nvidia 7025)
[06:21] <infinity_> But if I try glxgears
[06:21] <infinity_> I'm getting higher frames than on the 6600GT at home... but I swear the 6600 is much smoother, no frame droppage and things
[06:21] <tsimpson> glxgears is not a benchmark tool
[06:21] <infinity_> ok
[06:22] <tsimpson> it doesn't represent real world results
[06:22] <infinity_> ah k
[06:22] <Iowahc> hello there, got the .ICEauthority problem. tells me no write access, after each restart I have to manually chmod the file, how do I set it permanently?
[06:22] <infinity_> thanks for the help guys... I better go do some work ;)
[06:27] <ryan_> hey
[06:28] <Iowahc> hello there, got the .ICEauthority problem. tells me no write access, after each restart I have to manually chmod the file, how do I set it permanently?
[06:29] <ryan_> huh/
[06:41] <navetz__> where are the ffmpeg on my system?
[06:42] <Iowahc> hello there, got the .ICEauthority problem. tells me no write access, after each restart I have to manually chmod the file, how do I set it permanently?
[06:49] <Iowahc> hello there, got the .ICEauthority problem. tells me no write access, after each restart I have to manually chmod the file, how do I set it permanently?
[07:01] <Iowahc> hello there, got the .ICEauthority problem. tells me no write access, after each restart I have to manually chmod the file, how do I set it permanently?
[07:06] <Iowahc> hello there, got the .ICEauthority problem. tells me no write access, after each restart I have to manually chmod the file, how do I set it permanently?
[07:19] <carolus_> Hello to all
[07:34] <ultratek> i cannot login to swat via firefox as root
[07:34] <ultratek> or how do i do it?
[07:37] <preston> how stable is 9.04, is kde 4 good to go now?
[07:38] <xp-killer> good night
[07:38] <xp-killer> anyone here?
[07:38] <preston> im having a frustrating time with mandy 2009.1 and flash and i think from the dvd oive installed the 64 bit version but im not sure how that happened
[07:39] <xp-killer> i want to know how to copy dvd's on kubuntu
[07:43] <infinity_> preston: yes :)_
[07:44] <infinity_> xp-killer: If you want to make backups of DVD movies use K9Copy
[07:44] <infinity_> !K9Copy
[07:44] <preston> infinity_: thanks, to hell with this mandy install
[07:44] <preston> kubuntu here i come
[07:49] <siriusb> hi all
[07:50] <siriusb> does somebody know how to add a date condition in Kmail / Find messages?
[07:54] <Martin-KangBlom> Hi, there is a bug in the kde 4.3 beta 1 package at least for jaunty, Unpacking kdepim-kresources (from .../kdepim-kresources_4%3a4.2.85-0ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa5_amd64.deb) ...
[07:54] <Martin-KangBlom> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdepim-kresources_4%3a4.2.85-0ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa5_amd64.deb (--unpack):
[07:54] <Martin-KangBlom>  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libkcal_resourceremote.so.4.3.0', which is also in package libkdepim4
[07:54] <Martin-KangBlom> Selecting previously deselected package kde-icons-oxygen.
[07:54] <Martin-KangBlom> Unpacking kde-icons-oxygen (from .../kde-icons-oxygen_4%3a4.2.85-0ubuntu2~jaunty1~ppa2_all.deb) ...
[07:54] <Martin-KangBlom> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-icons-oxygen_4%3a4.2.85-0ubuntu2~jaunty1~ppa2_all.deb (--unpack):
[07:54] <Martin-KangBlom>  trying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/oxygen/16x16/status/meeting-organizer.png', which is also in package libkdepim4
[07:55] <Martin-KangBlom> currently, launchpad is not really available that is why I tried it here
[07:59] <p-f> sound plays fine when I use mplayer or flash, but when using Amarok or any KDE-related applications, I get "The audio playback device HDA Intel Sigmatel STAC9200 does not work. Falling back to default." What could be causing this?
[08:01] <jussi01> !paste | Martin-KangBlom
[08:01] <Martin-KangBlom> sorr
[08:01] <Martin-KangBlom> y
[08:02] <ajohnsen> does the current kopete msn support lack webcam?
[08:03] <Mamarok_> has somebody here already tested KDE 4.3 beta?
[08:04] <jussi01> Mamarok_: Im on it
[08:04] <Mamarok_> jussi01: issues?
[08:05] <p-f> jussi01: does it support tiling yet?
[08:05] <jussi01> Mamarok_: a few curerntly - as Martin-KangBlom mentioned a few mixed up files in packages, but JontheEchidna is fixing those
[08:05] <Mamarok_> Martin-KangBlom: you can override this with dpkg --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/kdepim-kresources_4%3a4.2.85-0ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa5_amd64.deb
[08:05] <jussi01> p-f: what exactly do you mean by that?
[08:05] <Mamarok_> jussi01: besides the packaging I mean :)
[08:06] <p-f> jussi01: automatically laying windows out in a grid-like fashion
[08:07] <p-f> jussi01: it's more or less the only thing keeping me away from KDE
[08:07] <Mamarok_> jussi01: never mind, just found the answer :)
[08:08] <Mamarok_> p-f: that works since ages... with desktop effects
[08:08] <Mamarok_> p-f: you mean the windos tiles like in Windows actually?
[08:08] <Mamarok_> +w
[08:09] <p-f> Mamarok_: I mean tiles like in a tiling window manager
[08:09] <rodrigo> hi
[08:09] <p-f> Mamarok_: splits your screen into regions - windows automatically fill them up when placed in them
[08:09] <Mamarok_> p-f: ok, well, KDE never did that AFAIK
[08:10] <p-f> Mamarok_: I'd be happy with keyboard shortcuts to resize windows to a preset % of the screen + move them to a preset corner, but it's hilariously painful to set up properly even though it shouldn't
[08:11] <p-f> (like winsplit revolution on windows)
[08:11] <p-f> I found a few posts that explain how to do it in a few different ways, but they were all buggy in their own way
[08:12] <Mamarok_> p-f: KDE has many other advantages, and in the 9+ Years I use KDE I never missed that feature...
[08:13] <p-f> Mamarok_: I usually work with 10+ windows opened - having to place them by hand is incredibly tedious
[08:14] <Mamarok_> p-f: keaboard shortcuts and desktops? put one window per desktop and switch with shortcuts?
[08:14] <p-f> Mamarok_: I want to view more than one at once
[08:15] <Mamarok_> p-f: putting 10+ windows in a grid sounds... strange, unless you have a 40" screen or so
[08:15] <Mamarok_> p-f: then put 2 windows in a desktop and...
[08:15]  * Mamarok_ gives up
[08:15] <p-f> Mamarok_: I usually split my screen in 3 - one large vertical band + 2 small ones on the right... the windows go in tabs
[08:15] <Mamarok_> p-f: file a whish to bugs.kde.org
[08:16] <Mamarok_> p-f: or use FWM or such
[08:16] <p-f> Mamarok_: well, I use ion right now
[08:16] <p-f> Mamarok_: I was just giving KDE a shot today to see if it was any better than the last time I used it (~3.x)
[08:17] <Mamarok_> p-f: KDE is not a Window Manager, it is a Desktop experience, maybe different from what you are used to, but not everybody uses a computer the same way
[08:17] <Mamarok_> p-f: "better" is not very objective, it's just your opinion because it doesn't do what *you* want it to do, so....
[08:17] <p-f> Mamarok_: obviously
[08:18] <faileas> Mamarok: desktop environment actually
[08:18] <p-f> Mamarok_: although there are objective measures of better, like "sound works", "doesn't clutter my terminal with debug output" and so forth ;p
[08:18] <Mamarok_> faileas: and a new Desktop Experience too IMHO
[08:18] <Mamarok_> it's a different way to work, using activities, etc
[08:18] <p-f> I love how most of their libraries completely ignore the settings from kdebugdialog
[08:19] <Mamarok_> p-f: are you a developer?
[08:19] <p-f> Mamarok_: in general?
[08:19] <Mamarok_> then help, else your comments are of no use IMHO
[08:20] <Mamarok_> file bugs objectively and contribute, but what you do is just bashing, still IMHO
[08:20] <p-f> I do usually help with opensource projects that have things that annoy me, but right now is not a good time for me to get into another project
[08:20] <Mamarok_> right...
[08:20] <Taggnostr> I have a disk with windows xp on it but it doesn't boot anymore, with a live cd I can see the two partitions but I can't access them. is there something that I can do? something like chkdsk or similar
[08:20] <p-f> unless you feel like doing my lab reports
[08:22]  * Mamarok_ just wonders why users always expect miracles in a desktop project with several hundred thousand lines of code...
[09:04] <Assurbanipal> hi guys, i tried to make my self a birthday present - kde 4,3 but unfortunatelly didn't wok. i got some errors while upgrading, rebooted and tried to rebuild repos and now i cannot enter kde!i only see a black screen!
[09:06] <Assurbanipal> can somebody please help?? i am on kubuntu 9,04 64 bit
[09:13] <Assurbanipal> hi guys, i tried to make my self a birthday present - kde 4,3 but unfortunatelly didn't wok. i got some errors while upgrading, rebooted and tried to rebuild repos and now i cannot enter kde!i only see a black screen!can someone pls help fix it?
[09:17] <embraceunity> Assurbanipal: try going into console and typing sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[09:18] <embraceunity> aptitude sometimes will correct errors
[09:21] <Assurbanipal> it doesnt work, it showed the kde loading screen, but now it is like before only a black screen with the cursor
[09:23] <Assurbanipal> embraceunity: are you here mate?
[09:23] <embraceunity> yes
[09:23] <embraceunity> try ctrl+alt+f1
[09:23] <embraceunity> then go into console
[09:23] <embraceunity> and try sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[09:24] <Assurbanipal> i did it
[09:24] <Assurbanipal> but still the same as i said before
[09:24] <embraceunity> oh
[09:24] <embraceunity> what happens when you press alt+f2?
[09:24] <embraceunity> does the run dialog show?
[09:24] <Assurbanipal> no, i am in terminal as normal
[09:24] <embraceunity> oh
[09:25] <Assurbanipal> is it possible it needs my graphics driver to be reinstalled for some reason?
[09:25] <embraceunity> ctrl+alt+f7 gets you back to KDE
[09:25] <Assurbanipal> ys i know, but it doesnt work
[09:25] <embraceunity> kde doesnt affect the graphics driver much
[09:26] <Assurbanipal> so what else can i do?
[09:27] <embraceunity> broken installs are common.... sometimes aptitude -f install will get the packages you need
[09:28] <Assurbanipal> it gave me some errors
[09:28] <embraceunity> pastebin the errors
[09:28] <Assurbanipal> i cannot!
[09:28] <embraceunity> right
[09:28] <Assurbanipal> how could i do that?i cannot enter graphics environment!
[09:29] <Assurbanipal> it sais subprosses /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[09:30] <Assurbanipal> plasma-scriptengines depends on plasma-scriptengine-python
[09:30] <embraceunity> try uninstalling those
[09:30] <embraceunity> and reinstalling them
[09:30] <Assurbanipal> how?
[09:31] <Assurbanipal> remove python?
[09:31] <embraceunity> whatever thing it is ultimately depending upon, yea
[09:31] <embraceunity> if there is a version conflict
[09:31] <embraceunity> remove the program
[09:32] <embraceunity> and it will remove the thing which installed it in the first place
[09:32] <Assurbanipal> sudo apt-get remove python ?
[09:32] <embraceunity> sudo apt-get remove plasma-scriptengine-python
[09:32] <embraceunity> perhaps
[09:32] <Mamarok> embraceunity: yes
[09:33] <Assurbanipal> gives me an error, Unmet dependancies
[09:33] <Assurbanipal> i tried apt-get -f install but nothing
[09:34] <Mamarok> Assurbanipal: try again, but removing plasma-scriptengines
[09:34] <Assurbanipal> the same
[09:34] <Mamarok> Assurbanipal: what does sudo dpkg --configure -a?
[09:35] <Assurbanipal> gives me the same errors
[09:35] <Mamarok> Assurbanipal: did you get a 'cannot override' error earlier?
[09:36] <Assurbanipal> it sais kdebase-workspace-bin has unmet dependancies
[09:36] <Assurbanipal> and then follow more errors
[09:37] <Mamarok> Assurbanipal: looks like there are some packages you miss then, try sudo apt-get update
[09:37] <Mamarok> mybe those have not been loaded in the cache
[09:37] <Assurbanipal> i did countles times
[09:37] <embraceunity> isn't there a sudo apt-get update --fix-missing
[09:37] <embraceunity> try that
[09:37] <Qrawl> How do you run .py files from Dolphin
[09:38] <Mamarok> Assurbanipal: well, the build server is quite busy at the moment, maybe waiting a few more hours could help
[09:38] <Mamarok> Qrawl: right click ->open with gives you something?
[09:38] <Qrawl> Mamarok, then what
[09:39] <Mamarok> Qrawl: you shoud have options there, which options do you get?
[09:39] <Qrawl> python and jar files arent associated
[09:39] <Qrawl> theres no Python option
[09:39] <Mamarok> Qrawl: are those files executable?
[09:39] <embraceunity> try typing "py" into the textbox in the Open With dialog
[09:39] <embraceunity> usuall in console py files are run with py filename.py
[09:39] <Qrawl> ok, I tried python before
[09:39] <embraceunity> i think
[09:39] <Assurbanipal> i did again sudo apt-get update and then suod ap-t-get upgrade and it sais that kdebase-workspace-bin depends on kdebase-workspace-data
[09:39] <Assurbanipal> and more errors follow
[09:39] <Qrawl> I'll try py this time
[09:40] <Qrawl> py doest work
[09:40] <embraceunity> assurbanipal: did sudo apt-get update --fix-missing do anything?
[09:40] <Mamarok> Assurbanipal: as I said, the build server is still running, you are in the middle of an upgrade of the repositories, patience
[09:40] <Mamarok> Assurbanipal: that's why there is a "beta" tag BTW
[09:41] <Mamarok> Qrawl: make your files executable with chmod +x
[09:41] <Assurbanipal> so what do i do?i stay with no kde while waiting?
[09:41] <Qrawl> Mamarok, it is already
[09:41] <Mamarok> Assurbanipal: upgrading to a beta release is allways at risk...
[09:41] <Assurbanipal> :S
[09:41] <Qrawl> I'll ask in #KDE. somethings messed up
[09:42] <Qrawl> i cant run .jar files either
[09:42] <Qrawl> I can do it with the terminal and Nautilus though
[09:42] <Assurbanipal> so there isn't anything i can do??just wait until beta becomes stable?
[09:42] <embraceunity> Qrawl: http://ubuntuforums.org/sho
[09:42] <Mamarok> Qrawl: file association is missing then, you can set those easily
[09:42] <embraceunity> Qrawl: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=220142
[09:43] <digitalpsyko> anyone know an alternative to kpowersave, have a new e6400 and cpu scaling isnt supported.
[09:43] <Qrawl> I know how to associate
[09:43] <Qrawl> but setting it to python doesnt work
[09:43] <Mamarok> Assurbanipal: no, just wait till the build server has finished uploading everything
[09:43] <Qrawl> Im not a noob at all
[09:43] <Qrawl> I know how to do most things
[09:43] <breass> Hi
[09:43] <Assurbanipal> which is expected to be later today??or...???
[09:44] <Mamarok> Assurbanipal: I can't tell you, it sure takes hours sometimes
[09:44] <embraceunity> breass: hi
[09:44] <Qrawl> embraceunity, ok ty
[09:44] <Qrawl> embraceunity, that only tells how to run from console
[09:44] <Assurbanipal> and what will i need to do then?just sudo apt-get update | sudo apt-get upgrade ??
[09:45] <embraceunity> Qrawl: the end of the thread explains how to make links
[09:45] <embraceunity> Qrawl: but i suppose that isn't what you want
[09:45] <Qrawl> no
[09:46] <embraceunity> qrawl: haha that last person on the thread, woli, has your some issue
[09:46] <embraceunity> same*
[09:46] <embraceunity> damn
[09:46] <Mamarok> Assurbanipal: yes
[09:46] <breass> How can I configure Microsoft PPTP in plasmoid NetworkManager for KDE4?
[09:46] <Qrawl> yeah
[09:47] <breass> If I can
[09:47] <Assurbanipal> can't i just go back to kde 4,2 ?
[09:47] <Mamarok> breass: what is Microsoft PPTP?
[09:47] <Mamarok> Assurbanipal: only with a reinstall
[09:47] <breass> Mamarok: VPN
[09:47] <embraceunity> assurbanipal: that would require removing the repo, deleting all of KDE, and then sudo apt-get update
[09:47] <embraceunity> then reinstall everything
[09:48] <Assurbanipal> not an option... will it be fixed for sure later today?
[09:48] <Mamarok> Assurbanipal: told you, I don't know, it depends on the build server...
[09:48] <Mamarok> Assurbanipal: just try again a few times
[10:12] <Fanfare> Q: where to report brocken links on kde.org?
[10:13] <lokai> Um, why the hell does kdevelop insist on tabbing when I press enter?
[10:13] <lokai> and how do I stop that behavior
[10:13] <lokai> jesus
[10:16] <Mamarok> lokai: settings?
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[10:16] <lokai> Can't find it
[10:16] <lokai> I've seen plenty of options for indentation
[10:16] <lokai> but can't find the behavior
[10:18] <Mamarok> lokai: sry, I don't use kdevelop
[10:18] <lokai> I can understand why
[10:18] <lokai> its useless.
[10:18] <Mamarok> lokai: tried QtCreator?
[10:18] <lokai> No
[10:18] <Mamarok> lokai: "useless" is not true, I know enough devs who use it
[10:19] <lokai> Why would anyone in their right mind put that as a default behavior --> line breaks cause indents
[10:19] <lokai> So if I hold enter my cursor moves to the bottom right of the screen
[10:19] <lokai> srsly
[10:19] <altrortla> kubuntu supports 64bit CPU processor???
[10:19] <tsimpson> yes
[10:19] <tsimpson> !64bit
[10:20] <Mamarok> altrortla: it would be totally outdated if it didn't...
[10:22] <tsimpson> linux has had support for 64bit long before intel or amd made any 64bit chips
[10:23] <Mamarok> tsimpson: the default windows still ships 32bit, and you have to move heaven and hell to get a 54bit version...
[10:24] <lokai> yeah, I bet ;P
[10:24] <altrortla> CPU is Core 2 Duo E8400 Socket 775 Box... it is new enought?
[10:24] <altrortla> :-)
[10:25] <Mamarok> s/54/64...
[10:25] <altrortla> thank you guys...
[10:25] <Mamarok> ...and gals...
[10:26] <altrortla> sure
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> altrortla: it'll run fine
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> altrortla: linux doesnt need a big powerful cpu as the system overhead is very small
[10:27] <darkham> someone with quassel?
[10:27] <Mamarok> !ask | darkham
[10:29] <darkham> why quassel are so slowly to open channels?
[10:30] <darkham> i've a wait sometimes of 1-2 minutes to open channels
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> darkham: make sure you are on the latest version. If so, log a bug
[10:52] <benishor> hello all. did anybody manage to make knetwork manager actually work in jaunty ?
[10:52] <Tm_T> benishor: some people yes
[10:52] <benishor> Tm_T : what's the key ?
[10:53] <benishor> it's very frustrating having it there and not working :(
[10:53] <Tm_T> benishor: dunno, it just works?
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> benishor: ive never had it working so i ditched it
[10:55] <benishor> ActionParsnip: what did you replace it with ?
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> benishor: /etc/network/interfaces files
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> benishor: old school
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> benishor: no stupid quirks in software to get all confused. nice and easy
[10:56] <benishor> I'm doing that aswell at the moment.. thought there is an alternative
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> benishor: not advised for the new to linux
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> benishor: "works for me" is all i can say
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> benishor: theres wifi-radar
[10:57] <benishor> thank you ActionParsnip
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> !info wifi-radar
[10:58] <benishor> thank you
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> np man
[11:18] <vblanton> hey, is anyone here not currently in the united states?
[11:19] <Tm_T> vblanton: most of us, why asking?
[11:19] <vblanton> it seems that kmuddy.com (the KDE mud client) website is inaccessible from outside the states, and I wanted to test if anyone can successfully surf there.
[11:19] <vblanton> I, from Russia, cannot access the site (get a "cannot find the server" error
[11:20] <Tm_T> not accessible
[11:20] <vblanton> where are you located?
[11:20] <shoebill> I tried and I can reach it (located in Germany)
[11:21] <vblanton> thanks shoebill, Tm_T where are you located?
[11:21] <Tm_T> vblanton: Eastern Finland, we both might be connected to US thru same pipe
[11:22] <vblanton> how about someone from the United States?
[11:22] <tsimpson> seems to work for me (UK)
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> i'm UK and its fine here
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> try it again
[11:23] <Mamarok> vblanton: if it works from Germany and the UK then the site is not down
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> !find mud
[11:23] <vblanton> Mamarok, right. but finland and russia can't reach it
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> you can connect to muds with telnet
[11:23] <Mamarok> vblanton: and why would somebody testing it from the US resolve that?
[11:24] <Tm_T> vblanton: works here now
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> try this: http://kmuddy.com/libmxp/files/libmxp0_0.2.2-1_i386.deb
[11:24] <vblanton> Tm_T, works now?
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> 32bit: http://kmuddy.com/releases/stable/kmuddy_0.8-2~getdeb1_i386.deb
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> 64bit: http://kmuddy.com/releases/stable/kmuddy_0.8-2~getdeb1_amd64.deb
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> those are hardy debs btw
[11:25] <vblanton> none of those work for me
[11:25] <tsimpson> it's probably an issue with your ISPs DNS
[11:26] <vblanton> tsimpson, i have tried it from a number two different locations/networks
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> try: http://66.218.49.114
[11:26] <vblanton> ActionParsnip, no go
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> can you tracert to it?
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> oops, traceroute
[11:27] <tsimpson> vblanton: does http://66.218.49.113/ work?
[11:28] <vblanton> tsimpson, nope
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> how about    traceroute 66.218.49.113
[11:30] <vblanton> um, i got output
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> vblanton: can you use pastebin to show us
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> i'm getting issues after dslextreme.com
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> so most likely they are having issues
[11:30] <vblanton> http://pastebin.com/d52d4a9a
[11:31] <tsimpson> I'm also going via wvfiber.net and dslextreme.com, but no issues
[11:32] <vblanton> traceroute ..114 has same results
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> vblanton: try powering your router off for a minute, then on
[11:33] <vblanton> ActionParsnip, i wish I could, but i am using my school connection
[11:33] <vblanton> Also, at home, i *borrow* wireless from a store across the road.
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> vblanton: i see, could try a web broxy like www.hidemyass.com or www.proxyninja.com
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> vblanton: or go old school and use telnet
[11:35] <vblanton> wow, that worked
[11:35] <vblanton> (hidemyass)
[11:37] <vblanton> ActionParsnip, do you know why that would be?
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> vblanton: maybe your school proxy is blocking traffic
[11:42] <vblanton> perhaps. chances are that both networks have proxies.. but its so strange that i've only had this issue with kmuddy. oh well, compiling the kmuddy sources now..
[11:42] <vblanton> thanks a bunchh
[11:42] <siriusb> does somebody know how to add a date condition in Kmail / Find messages?
[11:43] <vblanton> adios, thanks for the support all
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> vblanton: np man
[11:46] <Wampyre> Hello. I'm having problems connecting my kubuntu machine to my wifi-network.  I've gone into the network settings and set the ESSID and WEP key, but it connects intermittently. Mostly, it does not connect.  The sites I've found so far all deal with ubuntu and talk about GUI tools that ship with gnome.
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> !wifi
[11:51] <shoebill> I can't give any well informed input. Only that in my case that plasmoid network manager doesn't work, while knetworkmanager does
[11:51] <Matisse> where do I change the shut down sound? Theres nothing in the system settings for KDE...
[11:53] <Mamarok> Matisse: System Settings ->Notifications
[11:54] <Mamarok> Matisse: but logically, the startup sound is only a notification to tell the user his computer is ready, a shutdown sound is not really needed
[11:54] <robin0800> shoebill: See https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-widget-network-manager/+bug/378145 gives a work around
[11:56] <Matisse> Mamarok, there's nothign about shut down sound...
[11:56] <nico_> hello
[11:57] <Matisse> hi
[11:57] <nico_> OMFG
[11:57] <nico_> I love ubuntu <3 :D
[11:57] <Mamarok> nico_: watch your language
[11:57] <siriusb> does nobody use kmail?
[11:57] <Matisse> nico_, wrong channel :P
[11:57] <nico_> ??
[11:57] <Matisse> #ubuntu
[11:57] <Mamarok> !ask | siriusb
[11:57] <nico_> ouh okaz
[11:57] <nico_> thx
[11:58] <vblanton> Folks know if there are any big issues withe 4.3 beta 1 packages?
[11:58] <Tm_T> vblanton: shouldn't, except it's beta
[11:58] <Mamarok> vblanton: are you an experienced user?
[11:58] <siriusb> how to add a date condition in Kmail / Find messages?
[11:58] <vblanton> Tm_T, thats what I like to hear
[11:58] <vblanton> Mamarok, yes :)
[11:59] <tsimpson> Matisse: it the "Logout" sound
[11:59] <Mamarok> vblanton: then do as you like, but the build servers have not finished everything since the latest correction AFAIK
[11:59] <tsimpson> Matisse: under "KDE System Notifications"
[12:00] <nico_> where i can find the ubuntu channal?
[12:00] <vblanton> siriusb, dont know, haven't started used kmail kde4 yet :(
[12:00] <tsimpson> nico_: type /join #ubuntu
[12:00] <Mamarok> siriusb: filter
[12:01] <nico_> okaz thx
[12:01] <Matisse> nico_, you can love ubuntu everywhere
[12:01] <nico_> :D
[12:01] <siriusb> Mamarok: there's no such possibility, when you want to find email from somebody in a gien period
[12:02] <siriusb> *given
[12:02] <Mamarok> siriusb: let me see, I have to start it first
[12:02] <siriusb> okay, thank you
[12:02] <Matisse> tsimpson, under "KDE System Notifications" I can choose "Source of the event" (translated) but theres only stuff like powermanagement (laptop), printer, search, updates, etc.
[12:03] <zMingz> need help trying to email a log file from a shell using at command using kmail ex kmail to: 123@gmail.com attachment daily.log
[12:03] <tsimpson> Matisse: there should be one the the KDE (K) logo
[12:04] <Matisse> tsimpson, isnt there
[12:04] <Matisse> really, looked up through all options there
[12:04] <vbgunz> whoa... I lost my desktop :/
[12:05] <Mamarok> siriusb: you can filter messages in the "find messages" option, Edit -> Find messages
[12:05] <vbgunz> what happened. this never happened... I am 9.04 stable. I logged in, and have no desktop... I have the KDM wallpaper and I can get krunner to launch a few things *but* launching plasma doesn't work... I am somewhat stuck :(
[12:05] <vbgunz> anyone know if something big went down?
[12:05] <siriusb> Mamarok: and how you add a date condition???
[12:07] <tsimpson> Matisse: do you see anything like this http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/2861/ssn.jpg ?
[12:08] <Matisse> tsimpson, no
[12:09] <Matisse> but some of the items in the drop down box I have also
[12:09] <Matisse> but I many of them I havent
[12:09] <vbgunz> hello world! my desktop is gone. witw happened?
[12:10] <Mamarok> siriusb: looks like you can't :(
[12:10] <tsimpson> Matisse: do you have kdebase-runtime-data installed?
[12:10] <Matisse> vbgunz, you mean the desktop to put/see files on?
[12:10] <Matisse> tsimpson, yes
[12:10] <siriusb> Mamarok: it would be a shame! :-/
[12:10] <vbgunz> yeah... I logged in through KDM, I get no plasma, I got nothing... I can call up krunner, but I do everything through there :/
[12:11] <Mamarok> siriusb: you should ask in #kontact, they certainly would know it
[12:12] <Mamarok> vblanton: looks like your plsama did not start
[12:12] <siriusb> thanks for the advise, i'll try it
[12:12] <Mamarok> sry,
[12:12] <Mamarok> vbgunz: : looks like your plsama did not start
[12:12] <Matisse> try again
[12:12] <tsimpson> Matisse: and the file /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc ?
[12:12] <Mamarok> vbgunz: what did you do last before that?
[12:12] <vblanton> Mamarok, uh, hello.
[12:12] <vblanton> :)
[12:12] <vbgunz> yeah, but I keep trying to launch plasma and I cant :|
[12:12] <Mamarok> vblanton: sry, wrong nick with tab completion :)
[12:13] <vbgunz> Mamarok: update through apt-get
[12:13] <Mamarok> vbgunz: update to what?
[12:13] <vbgunz> thats the only thing I can imagine going root for that might have changed anything
[12:13] <Matisse> tsimpson, 120kb there
[12:13] <Mamarok> vbgunz: you logged in as root?
[12:13] <vbgunz> Mamarok: for an apt-get update
[12:14] <Mamarok> vbgunz: logged in to the GUI as root?
[12:14] <Mamarok> vbgunz: that makes no sense
[12:14] <vbgunz> I am saying, thats the only root system-wide operation I made during last use on the desktop
[12:14] <tsimpson> Matisse: what version of KDE do you have?
[12:14] <Mamarok> vbgunz: what version of KDE do you have?
[12:14] <bazhang> vbgunz, root or sudo
[12:15] <Mamarok> bazhang: that's not the problem...
[12:15] <vbgunz> Mamarok: heh, you're making no sense out of it... I was saying, the last thing I did that might have effected anything system wide was doing apt-get...
[12:15] <Matisse> tsimpson, newest for newest kubuntu
[12:15] <vbgunz> Mamarok: 4.2.2
[12:15] <bazhang> Mamarok, I had the exact same issue
[12:15] <Mamarok> vbgunz: and I aske you what you were upgrading to...
[12:16] <vbgunz> Mamarok: dont remember. it was a simple apt-get update, upgrade, I was looking for anything in particular
[12:16] <Mamarok> vbgunz: you should go to a console and update again, maybe you have just something missing
[12:16] <vbgunz> I wasn't* looking
[12:16] <Mamarok> vbgunz: but it tells you what it is going to upgrade, so normally one should have a look...
[12:16] <tsimpson> Matisse: from the Kubuntu PPA or from jaunty?
[12:17] <Mamarok> that's what the administrator of a system should do
[12:18] <Matisse> tsimpson, i think jaunty...   apt-cache show kdebase says:     Version: 4:4.2.2-0ubuntu4
[12:18] <vbgunz> Mamarok: heh, I forgot, shoot me, or I may have already been shot
[12:18] <Mamarok> vbgunz: try to move your .kde/ folder to .kde_old/ for example and login again
[12:19] <tsimpson> Matisse: well 4:4.2.2-0ubuntu5 is the latest from jaunty, but that should not effect it
[12:20] <Matisse> tsimpson, never used PPA, i'm sure
[12:20] <zMingz> i need to install a mail client that run in a shell that is friendly with kmail any sugestions ?
[12:20] <tsimpson> !info kdelibs5
[12:20] <tsimpson> it's in jaunty
[12:21] <Matisse> tsimpson, isnt there something like dpkg --reconfigure  or something?
[12:23] <tsimpson> Matisse: I doubt that would show it, it should pick up the kde.notiftrc file
[12:26] <Matisse> tsimpson, tell me, whats the file name of your shut down sound
[12:26] <Matisse> i delete it and it works out fine :)
[12:27] <tsimpson> Matisse: try logging out/in, see if it picks it up. or edit ~/.kde/share/config/kde.notifyrc with something like http://paste.ubuntu.com/175582/ . if it doesn't show in system settings please file a bug at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+filebug
[12:29] <tsimpson> Matisse: just put "Action=" to remove the sound effect
[12:29] <Nikke> how can i prevent that other workspaces "steal windows" from another workspace?
[12:34] <Matisse> thanks for the help. i'll have a look if its showing up
[12:34] <Matisse> tsimpson, thanks for the help. i'll have a look if its showing up
[12:34] <Matisse> restarting kde..
[12:37]  * sebr_ is missing loads of oxygen icons after updating to 4.3 alpha
[12:39] <Matisse> tsimpson, doesn't show up, still making sound when logging off (but thats a different event, right?)
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> sebr_: apt-cache search oxygen | grep icon
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> sebr_: then reinstall the relevant package
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> sebr_: sudo apt-get --reinstall install <name of package>
[12:40] <sebr_> beautiful, that worked perfectly
[12:40] <sebr_> cheers
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> sebr_: np man
[12:43] <Matisse> tsimpson, and I'm not sure if it makes sense to file a bug report for a bug that can't be reproduced...
[12:50] <Greenery> is anyone here using the Weather Forecast plasmoid? I have graphical issue with that plasmoid, a weather icon shows up on the top right corner blocking the town name a bit
[12:51] <ubsafder> looks like some boost stuff is broken in ubuntu 9.04
[12:51] <ct529> tsimpson: hi there! the uodate worked beutifully, thanks. Even my databases have been kept.
[12:51] <ct529> tsimpson: thanks for yesterady's help!
[12:53] <Greenery> my Kubuntu is not detecting my second DVD burner. It detects my DVD reader very well though, Any idea how to fix this?
[12:57] <vbgunz> Mamarok: somehow, someway, my plasmarc files got corrupted.
[12:59] <vbgunz> I think I may know how it happened, but dont want to even try
[13:15] <cemunal> hi all
[13:17] <cemunal> i installed amarok2 on xfce4 but it can't play any sound and i can't see shoutcast radios; how can i fix these?
[13:31] <kjelle> Hello. Is Applications -> Systems Settings menu supposed to be empty in KDE 4.2.2 (Ubuntu 9.04, Jaunty)?
[13:32] <AmbrNewlearner> Hello, I want to configure my broadband internet connection (using ADSL 2+ router+modem)...In windows XP I have setup a connection for this like this:
[13:32] <AmbrNewlearner> http://i39.tinypic.com/1tnfp3.jpg
[13:33] <kjelle> I updated my ubuntu 8.04.2 (kubuntu) to 9.04 yesterday, and Applications > System Settings is empty.. I cannot find e.g. KDE Control Center etc.. How do i corrigate this?
[13:33] <mase_x200> kjelle: can you update  from hardy direct to jaunty ?
[13:34] <kjelle> mase_x200: that adept updater asked me if i wanted to update to 9.04 (gui program), and i selected yes. so guess so..+0
[13:35] <kjelle> he probably went by 8.10 before he moved up to 9.04
[13:35] <mase_x200> k
[13:35] <kjelle> it is extremely poorly made if a gui core application let you fubar your box..
[13:36] <devastation31> AmbrNewlearner if u there is a router u don't need to configure an ADSL connection. This one does your router. U just need to setup your networkcard
[13:36] <devastation31> -u
[13:36] <kjelle> mase_x200: should i move ~/.kde to something, and reinstall kde-base?
[13:36] <xp-killer> how can i copy protected dvd on kubuntu?
[13:37] <phh> xp-killer: you mean read copy protected dvd-videos ?
[13:37] <phh> oh just copy
[13:38] <kjelle> or should I do something else?
[13:38] <phh> xp-killer: you want a gui ?
[13:38] <kjelle> try to completely remove kde, and reinstall it?
[13:38] <phh> xp-killer: you can try dvdrip
[13:39] <Peace-> kjelle: i don't think you should remove kde and then reinstall it
[13:39] <Peace-> just reinstall
[13:39] <Peace-> some packages should be ok
[13:39] <Peace-> but unluckly i dunno what package you should reinstall
[13:39] <Peace-> maybe kde-desktop
[13:39] <xp-killer> how to install dvd rip?
[13:40] <Peace-> kjelle: sudo apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-desktop
[13:42] <Peace-> xp-killer: like every application sudo apt-get install YOURSTUFF
[13:44] <AmbrNewlearner13> devastation31: What was the command that you told to me?
[13:51] <danail> някой казва ли нещо?
[13:52] <kennethaar> Hi
[13:52] <danail> hi
[13:53] <kennethaar> Does there excist a gui firewall for linux with popup notifications of outgoing and ingoing traffic ala zonealarm on windows?
[13:54] <Pconfig> kennethaar, the best gui for the linux firewall will be firestarter
[13:54] <Pconfig> no idea if it supports notifications
[14:05] <kennethaar> Thanks Pconfig!
[14:05] <kennethaar> I'll Give it a try
[14:11] <BlueAidan_work> anyone know how to fix the permissions for a logitech mouse, to allow for changing settings via the systemsettings mouse applet?
[14:18] <Pollywog> I am unable to get kgpg to encrypt files (Jaunty) on two systems.  Not sure when this problem started.  Is anyone else having this problem with kgpg?
[14:19] <Pollywog> what is the recommended way of reporting a bug in kgpg?  I remember reading something about not using Launchpad for this.
[14:20] <BluesKaj> Howdy Folks
[14:24] <Pollywog> is there a way to downgrade KDE to 3.5.10 on a Jaunty system?
[14:28] <eagles0513875> Pollywog: please ask in kubuntu this channel is for the next release and discussion about it
[14:29] <Pollywog> I thought I was in #kubuntu
[14:29] <Pollywog> thanks
[14:29] <Pollywog> I have no idea how I got here
[14:29] <Dragnslcr> Uh, you are
[14:29] <Pici> eagles0513875: Please check your channels and be sure you know which ones you're in
[14:29] <Dragnslcr> eagles0513875 is obviously not awake
[14:29] <Pollywog> why does it say offtopic in the topic?
[14:29] <eagles0513875> bah my bad Pollywog
[14:30] <eagles0513875> i thought i was in ubuntu+1
[14:30] <eagles0513875> my bad
[14:31] <Dragnslcr> Pollywog- to answer your question, yes, I believe there is, but I don't think it's officially supported
[14:31] <Pollywog> and it is odd that there is already discussion about the next release when the current one still needs work  ;)
[14:31] <Pconfig> Pollywog: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Kde3/Jaunty
[14:31] <Pollywog> ty
[14:32] <Pconfig> Pollywog: you don't need to reinstall btw, you can just add the repo's van pearsoncomputing and install the kde3 packages next to the kde4 packages
[14:32] <Pconfig> van = from :P
[14:32] <Pollywog> Pconfig: ty
[14:33] <Pollywog> That is good because it is just kgpg that is causing grief at the moment
[14:39] <Pollywog> I do not see the sources.list for pearsoncomputing, only iso's
[14:39] <Pollywog> I smell a reinstall
[14:40] <Pconfig> Pollywog: give me a minute, i'll find them again ;)
[14:41] <Pollywog> I think I have found them via Google
[14:41] <Pollywog> tnx
[14:41] <Pollywog> http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/install.html
[14:42] <Pconfig> that's it yes :)
[14:47] <gigasoft> how to unzip pass-protected files, any help?
[14:47] <Pollywog> what is strange is that there are 4 lines for Jaunty but two of them point to intrepid
[14:47] <Pollywog> I wonder if that is an error
[14:48] <Pconfig> maybe he didn't package everything specially for jaunty yet. Only the ones that needed special attention
[14:48] <Pollywog> yes that might be it
[14:49] <Pconfig> gigasoft: ark should do the job?
[14:49] <kjelle> Peace-: what happens when i do reinstall of kubuntu-desktop?
[14:49] <kjelle> will it affect the configurations etc? (#kde channel did not think so)
[14:50] <Peace-> kjelle: your configuration are saved on $HOME/.kde
[14:50] <drbobb> gigasoft: if all else fails try `unzip' on the command line
[14:50] <Peace-> kjelle: installing kubuntu-destkop again will not touch your stuff
[14:50] <Peace-> kjelle: but..........if you rename that folder  you will lose every configuration
[14:51] <Peace-> kjelle: i reccomended to rename that folder then you can restore your configuration with your hand
[14:51] <Peace-> *reccomend
[14:52]  * Peace- is compiling koffice ~25%
[14:59] <gigasoft> how to unzip pass-protected files, any help?, and i do not know pass
[14:59] <Pconfig> lol, that changes the situation
[15:00] <Peace-> hahah
[15:00] <Peace-> get the password first
[15:02] <drbobb> lol indeed
[15:04] <kjelle> Peace-: yes, nothing changed after i reinstalled
[15:04] <kjelle> no more menus :p
[15:04] <kjelle> Peace-: must i reboot, restart kdm?
[15:05] <Peace-> kjelle: mmmm renamed this $HOME/.kde?
[15:05] <genii> !info fcrackzip
[15:05]  * genii sips
[15:06]  * Peace- koffice ~ 60%
[15:07] <kjelle> Peace-: haven't dared yet, tried first w/o
[15:07] <kjelle> gonna do that now
[15:08] <kjelle> Peace-: kontact and kmail died :)
[15:08] <Peace-> you can restore that after
[15:08] <Peace-> ...
[15:08] <Peace-> how many time i have to say that?
[15:08] <kjelle> :)
[15:08] <Peace-> times
[15:08] <kjelle> i moved away .kde and .kde4, and i did "sudo apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-desktop
[15:08] <kjelle> "
[15:09] <kjelle> still no change. do i need a reboot+
[15:09]  * Peace- is italian and english is not his first language 
[15:09] <Peace-> kjelle: restart, if doesn't work you installation is fucked somewhy
[15:09] <Peace-> and i have no idea
[15:10] <kjelle> hmm, i dont accept that, as I did a upgrade which was from the "wizard" in 8.04
[15:10] <Peace-> no more ideas
[15:10] <Peace-> sorry
[15:10] <kjelle> anyone elsE? :)
[15:10] <kjelle> this channel seems a bit quitet :p
[15:13] <kjelle> Peace-: what is the command to launch KDE Control Center at your box?
[15:13] <Peace-> systemsettings
[15:14] <kjelle> Peace-: ok, that is here..
[15:19] <tehboriz> i accidentally my task manager in my start menu dock and have no idea how to get it back... can somebody please help me? i've looked all over the place for it
[15:24] <eagles0513875> !minimal
[15:26] <kjelle> so, i probably have to do a clean kubuntu 9.04 installation then?
[15:29] <dev11> hi
[15:29] <Phibes> hello, i have a slight problem with mounting an iso, the terminal always gives "No such file or directory"
[15:29] <khalid_> hola
[15:30] <dev11> hi
[15:30] <khalid_> hay una sala de español
[15:30] <Phibes> sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 theiso.iso /mnt/isoimage/
[15:30] <Phibes> is what i use
[15:30] <Magicman12641> Can anyone tell me how I can use Itunes with Ubuntu?
[15:30] <genii> Phibes: sudo mkdir /mnt/isoimage          then try again
[15:30] <Phibes> already did that
[15:31] <genii> !es | khalid_
[15:31] <khalid_> ok
[15:31] <Phibes> also tried it with the whole path: home/media/Games/theiso.iso ... still nothing
[15:31] <dev11> any one know how to install .sh file in kubuntu?
[15:32] <dev11> any one know how to install .sh file in kubuntu?
[15:32] <genii> Phibes: Perhaps the filesystem the image uses is not iso9660 compatible but something like udf or an oddball proprietary one (if it's some cd image for instance of a game console cd)
[15:33] <genii> dev11: .sh files use normally sh or bash to execute.  If you are in same dir as the file then: ./filename.sh          shuld be enough to run it
[15:34] <Phibes> hm... are there then programms like daemon tools to mount it? becuase its game yeah but not a console one. Ive tried EcetoneISO2 but that didnt really work
[15:35] <dev11> do you know any lan messanger for linux and windows
[15:35] <Magicman12641> Can anyone tell me how I can use Itunes with Ubuntu?
[15:35] <Phibes> okay... weird, i have it now in between the Filesystem and other maps... but ill try running it with Wine...
[15:35] <eagles0513875> !wine | Magicman12641
[15:36] <devastation31> Phibes try gmount-iso may it works for u
[15:36] <Magicman12641> Thank you
[15:37] <dev11> do you know any lan messanger for linux and windows
[15:37] <genii> dev11:  If you have winpopup on your windows machines you can use linpopup for the linux side
[15:37] <Phibes> i think ive got it mounted now
[15:37] <Phibes> thx
[15:39] <tehboriz> i have someone's foot on the top left of my monitor, when i right click it it gives me the option to unlock my widgets... can i get rid of it please?
[15:39] <tehboriz> top right*
[15:41] <dev11> please let me know how to install linpopup?
[15:42] <dev11> on linux
[15:43] <dev11> how to install tar format file in linux?
[15:45] <dev11> how to install tar format file in linux?
[15:45] <tzanger> good morning
[15:45] <genii> dev11: linpopup install:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install linpopup
[15:45] <tzanger> what is the panel at the bottom called? the one with the K menuand the system tray and task list?  Mine's crashed, and I don't know what to run to bring another up
[15:45] <genii> dev11: Do not install from tar files when the application may be installed from the package manager
[15:45] <devastation31> dev11:  a tar file is an package like rar or zip. u need to extract this file
[15:47] <devastation31> tzanger: right click on desktop there u can add a new panel
[15:47] <dev11> i want to install outlook messanger in linux, please let me know how to do this?
[15:48] <Mamarok> dev11: outlook? that is a windows application
[15:48] <Mamarok> devastation31: : outlook? that is a windows application
[15:48] <dev11> outlook messanger for linux
[15:48] <devastation31> dev11: outlook is an MS mailprogram. for mai there are many other applications
[15:49] <Pici> There is no such thing
[15:49] <dev11> you can see here http://www.outlookmessenger.com/OM/lan_messenger_download.asp
[15:49] <devastation31> dev11 try evolution or Thunderbird or what ever
[15:49] <Mamarok> dev11: you can use kmail instead
[15:49] <tzanger> devastation31: nope I have nothing on right-click of the desktop :-(
[15:49] <Mamarok> devastation31: sry for the nick mistype
[15:49] <tzanger> xrandr killed something off
[15:50] <Mamarok> devastation31: btw, in Kubunu the standard would rather be Kmail than Evolution...
[15:50] <dev11> there a outlook lan massenger for linux
[15:50] <devastation31> tzanger: there is the context menu. what u have to choose there
[15:50] <tzanger> devastation31: there is no context menu; it got killed off
[15:51] <Mamarok> dev11: no, there is not, the mail applications have other names in Linux
[15:51] <dev11> which name
[15:51] <dev11> ?
[15:51] <Mamarok> dev11: kmail
[15:51] <devastation31> -have +can
[15:52] <Mamarok> dev11: do you need help in your language?
[15:52] <libervisco> Hi, is it possible to turn off those file recycling in KDE?
[15:53] <dev11> i want to used lan messanger for crossform
[15:53] <dev11> both
[15:53] <libervisco> every time I edit a text file, for example, a new file shows up in the folder that ends with ~ and usually has a recycle icon on it
[15:53] <Mamarok> dev11: what is crossform?
[15:53] <Mamarok> dev11: what is your native language?
[15:53] <dev11> do you have any idea
[15:54] <dev11> marathi
[15:54] <Mamarok> dev11: this is an Indian language?
[15:54] <dev11> yes
[15:54] <Mamarok> !in | dev11
[15:54] <dev11> hindi
[15:55] <Mamarok> dev11: I fear I don't understand what you exactly need, I don't know what crossform is
[15:55] <devastation31> tzanger: try from console ;
[15:55] <devastation31> sudo dpkg-reconfigure kde-core
[15:55] <devastation31> sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[15:55] <devastation31> sudo dpkg-reconfigure Xorg.conf
[15:56] <dev11> for linux and windows
[15:56] <Mamarok> devastation31: you can use Thunderbird then, it is a mail client for both Linux and Windows
[15:56] <devastation31> tzanger: sorry i meant xserver-xorg
[15:57] <Mamarok> dev11: you can use Thunderbird then, it is a mail client for both Linux and Windows
[15:57] <Mamarok> devastation31: sry...
[15:57] <devastation31> lol
[15:57]  * Mamarok gives up
[15:57] <Mamarok> bbl, shopping
[16:01] <dev11> hi
[16:01] <Dragnslcr> libervisco- that's actually specific to Kate. You can turn it off in Kate's settings
[16:01] <dev11> ?
[16:03] <mugenmbx5> probando
[16:04] <libervisco> Dragnslcr, oh.. you mean "Backup and save" feature?
[16:04] <libervisco> looks like that should be it..
[16:04] <Dragnslcr> Something like that
[16:04] <libervisco> thanks :)
[16:04] <libervisco> I compulsively save text files after every modification anyway with ctrl-s :)
[16:05] <Dragnslcr> Heh, same here
[16:06] <AceKing> Anybody know a good program to use for Ipod video?
[16:14] <ct529> AceKing: Amarok?
[16:14] <ct529> AceKing: sorry, kaffeine
[16:15] <ct529> AceKing: I think it may support it
[16:19] <dyn0myt3> why do I have Kpackagekit, instead  of Kpackage, default install
[16:21] <BluesKaj> dyn0myt3, it's the default package manager now
[16:21] <dyn0myt3> k
[16:22] <ct529> BluesKaj: does it substitute the previous package manager?
[16:22] <BluesKaj> I still use adept and synaptic myself , the kpackagekit doesn't do what I want.
[16:22] <dyn0myt3> i was trying to view a website and it said i needed flash, so i went into kpackagekit and install Flash. i must already have it.
[16:23] <BluesKaj> dyn0myt3, make sure you have medibuntu in your sources.list
[16:23] <BluesKaj> !medibuntu
[16:23] <dyn0myt3> nice thx
[16:23] <BluesKaj> dyn0myt3, install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:24] <BluesKaj> and flashplugin-nonfree
[16:25] <dyn0myt3> ok
[16:25] <dyn0myt3> thx
[16:26] <vistakiller> anyone else have the problem with the evil white window?
[16:26] <vistakiller> when use sudo kate from konsole
[16:29] <Dragnslcr> BluesKaj- Flash isn't in medibuntu
[16:29] <Dragnslcr> !info flashplugin-installer
[16:29] <BluesKaj> vistakiller, nope wrls ok here, try kdesudo in the run command (alt+f2)
[16:29] <BluesKaj> Dragnslcr, oops , forgot :P
[16:30] <Dragnslcr> I don't think it's been in medibuntu for a long time. I always remember it being in multiverse
[16:31] <vistakiller> is ok with kdesudo but when i use sudo apears a white windows that say  "Could not start ksmserver. Check your installation."
[16:31] <BluesKaj> Dragnslcr, prolly never was , My memory fails me sometimes
[16:32] <BluesKaj> vistakiller, try starting it in the run command then
[16:32] <dyn0myt3> i tried to download the .deb from Adobe, but it Errored
[16:32] <Dragnslcr> vistakiller- yeah, because sudo doesn't work with GUI programs
[16:32] <Dragnslcr> vistakiller- you have to use kdesudo
[16:32] <pino> \ciao
[16:32] <pino> !list
[16:33] <BluesKaj> <---seldom uses konsole to start gui apps
[16:33] <AceKing> cd529: I didn't try Kaffeine yet
[16:33] <dyn0myt3> is it normal to have 129 processes  ?
[16:33] <vistakiller> but before some weeks it works fine :P
[16:34] <AceKing> ct529: sorry I stepped out of the room and just seen your post.. I didn't try kaffeine yet
[16:34] <AceKing> I'll give that a shot
[16:34] <AceKing> Thanks
[16:35] <Dragnslcr> dyn0myt3- that's about right, yeah
[16:35] <BluesKaj> dyn0myt3, check your souces list make sure you don't have any sources commented out or alternatively open the package manager and enable thirdparty sources, then try the install
[16:35] <Dragnslcr> dyn0myt3- I have about 160 processes running right now
[16:36] <dyn0myt3> lol i used to freak when Xp went over   30
[16:37] <dyn0myt3> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[16:48] <sere> i set up gadminproftpd and i can connect to the server but i can see any files...anyone know y
[16:49] <genii> sere: Please don't post the same question in multiple channels. Since gadminproftpd is a regular Gnome app and not KDE I suggest #ubuntu
[16:50] <sere> is there a kde app?
[16:50] <ct529> sere: what would you like to do?
[16:51] <sere> ct529. share files with my pda
[16:51] <sere> ct529. i assumed ftp was the easiest way
[16:54] <ct529> sere: do you have to upload or download?
[16:54] <sere> ct529: i would like to download movies  /mp3s
[16:56] <ct529> sere: KGET is good under KDE
[16:57] <sere> ct529: i need a file server under linux so i can ftp through my pda
[16:57] <tekteen_> sere, proftpd is a good ftp server
[16:58] <tekteen_> I like it
[16:59] <dev25> hell
[16:59] <dev25> hello*
[17:00] <sere> tekteen. i have it installed and can connect to it but not getting any files...only the welcome message any ideas?
[17:00] <dev25> please tell me how to install linpopup
[17:00] <tekteen_> sere, is there anything in the root directory of the ftp?
[17:01] <tekteen_> sere, what directory is the root?
[17:01] <sere> tekteen_: yes.... and /home/ftp
[17:01] <sere> tekteen_: would u mind looking at my config file ?
[17:01] <tekteen_> sere, what are the permissions on those files? does the ftp user own them?
[17:01] <tekteen_> sere, pastebin them
[17:02] <tekteen_> I have a little time before class (at lunch)
[17:02] <noaXess> if i switch to many/fast ALT+TAB then keyboard stops working...
[17:02] <noaXess> so i need to relogin into kde4
[17:02] <noaXess> have latest kde4
[17:04] <swatto> Hello all
[17:04] <tekteen_> sere?
[17:04] <tekteen_> hi swatto
[17:05] <sere> tekteen_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/175770/
[17:05] <genii> dev25: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install linpopup
[17:05] <swatto> What are peoples takes on antivirus and firewall?
[17:06] <genii> ( as I told you already earlier)
[17:06] <dev25> ok thanks
[17:06] <dev25> and then?
[17:06] <tekteen_> swatto, I do not use antivirus/firewall on my linux machine
[17:07] <tekteen_> swatto, I only use it on my server. And that is just iptables and clamscan once a month
[17:07] <sere> tekteen_: not sure what happend but my sudo passowrd has changed sinec the install..
[17:08] <tekteen_> ...
[17:09] <tekteen_> sere, that does not make sense...
[17:09] <tekteen_> did you use passwd? lol
[17:10] <sere> tekteen_: no lol :/
[17:13] <dev25> when i instaling linpopup this massage showing  Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[17:13] <dev25> when i instaling linpopup this massage showing  Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[17:13] <tekteen_> dev25, do you have a program open?
[17:13] <tekteen_> are you installing something else
[17:13] <dev25> yes
[17:14] <tekteen_> it is made to not work if you are installing something else at the same time
[17:14] <tekteen_> it also will not work if you have another program open like adept
[17:14] <dev25> thanks its work
[17:15] <dev25> now its working
[17:15] <sere> tekteen_: did u have a chance to check out my config
[17:16] <dev25> now installed linpopup so please let me know where i can see?
[17:18] <swatto> ahh thats good then, I wont bother installing any antivirus/firewall software.  I only have a linux machine, dont have windows anymore
[17:20] <libervisco> KDE just froze.. even with most minimal desktop effects.. which is none except transparency..
[17:20] <noaXess> if i switch to many/fast ALT+TAB then keyboard stops working...
[17:20] <noaXess> any idea?
[17:23] <dev25> please let know how to used linpopup
[17:23] <dev25> i installed linpopup on my PC
[17:23] <dev25> please let me know to used
[17:25] <padi999> Sorry guys, but is kmail also crashing ALL THE TIME at your place?
[17:25] <padi999> It's .. all the time
[17:25] <padi999> scary
[17:26] <jesus__> hello
[17:26] <jesus__> wifi problem
[17:27] <padi999> Linux 2.6.28-11-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP, kubuntu 4.2
[17:28] <padi999> sorry, kde 4.2.2
[17:28] <sere> if im trying to set a an ftp so i can access / through su what is the group for that?
[17:29] <jaanika> kas keegi eesti keelt ka oskab või.
[17:30] <padi999> What percentage of visitors in here are a) bots, b) idlers/not present c) people waiting for answers d) people being able and having time to give answers
[17:30] <padi999> that would be an interesting question
[17:37] <ubuntu___> Hi there, I just installed kubuntu from the live CD, but I added LVM into the process.. Before install, I apt-get install lvm2, created the LVM partitions. Then I ran the installer, selected the LVM partitions (but /boot has its own separate partition, still), did installation, and when finished, I chrooted into the new installation and installed the lvm2 package there too so that ubuntu would have LVM support. Then I reboot, grub loads, but then it fa
[17:37] <ubuntu___>  saying it failed find / , that it can not finnd /dev/system/root (which is the LV root from the group system).. Does anybody have an idea how to fix this?
[17:39] <Muzer> What's the name of that info box that pops up in the bottom-right corner (with the "i" icon in the system tray), and how would I use it from a shell script (if that's possible)?
[17:42] <swatto> whats the command to open a terminal prompt at a specific location?
[17:42] <ubuntu___> swatto: not entirely sure but try man bash, man konsole..
[17:42] <swatto> ok thanks
[17:43] <dyn0myt3> every time i reboot i lose my desktop image. what did i break   :)
[17:44] <swatto> how do I open a hidden directory in dolphin
[17:45] <Muzer> swatto: Press Ctrl + L to open the location bar, then type it
[17:45] <Muzer> or you can enable hidden files in the view menu, then disable it again
[17:46] <swatto> ahh thankyou Muzer
[17:46] <Muzer> but that can be annoying
[17:47] <robin0800> swatto: You can also set it to permanat in the settings
[17:47] <swatto> ahh its ok that will be fine :)
[18:02] <gabspeck> hey there
[18:02] <portacoon> hello?
[18:02] <gabspeck> does anyone know how to manually convert LNK shortcuts to  .desktop files ?
[18:12] <wekt> Hi.  What is the app in Kubuntu which shows one square enclosing another to help you set the gamma of your monitor?
[18:14] <redexito> hello
[18:15] <redexito> viva kubuntu
[18:16] <dwidmann> So what does one do to kill a process when killall -9 doesn't work?
[18:16] <redexito> no
[18:18] <tsimpson> dwidmann: there's not a lot you can do
[18:18] <redexito>   I do not fault
[18:18] <tsimpson> redexito: do you have an issue?
[18:18] <dwidmann> tsimpson: that's both what I suspected and what I didn't want to hear
[18:19] <redexito> iam not
[18:37] <justin___> hello
[18:38] <justin___> is anyone in here?
[18:40] <BluesKaj> justin___, no :)
[18:40] <dyn0myt3> yes
[18:41] <dyn0myt3> i downloaded a image for the desktop thru the "built in" wallpapers, but i have no idea where it went
[18:46] <phoenixz> I just reinstalled kubuntu, 9.04.. from 7.04 and up, my Wifi worked (broadcomm, using closed driver).. Right now, my wifi doesnt work (the wifi led is also off) and when trying to install the closed driver, I see nothing.. How can I enable my wifi driver?
[18:57] <dyn0myt3> need input:  user states "it keeps glitching out and troughing random numbers all over my screen"
[18:57] <dyn0myt3> on a laptop
[18:59] <genii> dyn0myt3: I've seen that when trying to boot on systems with corrupted bios or video
[18:59] <nithin> hi
[19:00] <dyn0myt3> hi
[19:00] <dyn0myt3> thx Genii
[19:00] <genii> dyn0myt3: Usually it will power up then random garbage all over the screen (sometimes in different colours or even some of it blinking). Then it will just lockup/freeze
[19:02] <nithin> man how uconnec to internet
[19:03] <nithin> 5
[19:03] <nithin> 5
[19:03] <nithin> 5
[19:03] <nithin> 5
[19:03] <nithin> 5
[19:03] <nithin> 5
[19:03] <nithin> 5
[19:05] <sharkp> hi, I have a VIA VT82xx integrated audio card
[19:05] <sharkp> but it's recognized every two sessions...
[19:05] <sharkp> and I haven't this problem with GNOME
[19:06] <sharkp> what could be the problem?
[19:08] <sharkp> yuhuu?
[19:10] <Josecito> hola
[19:10] <Josecito> alguien me puedea yudar con linux''
[19:10] <Josecito> soy nuevo :S
[19:10] <sharkp> can anyone help me?
[19:11] <sharkp> !espanol
[19:11] <Josecito> spenish  please
[19:11] <Josecito> grasias
[19:11] <sharkp> de nada :)
[19:12] <sharkp> !italiano
[19:16] <sharkp> are you all dead? :)
[19:17] <noaXess> if i switch to many/fast ALT+TAB then keyboard stops working... any idea, tipps?
[19:21] <Mamarok> !ask | sharkp
[19:21] <sharkp> Mamarok: It doesn't seem to me that I've repeated my questione
[19:22] <Mamarok> sharkp: read the end of that sentence...
[19:22] <Mamarok> if anyone knows the anser....
[19:22] <Mamarok> answer even
[19:22] <sharkp> Mamarok: we are in an international channel, there might be almost 30 messages per minute
[19:22] <WaaX> except for kde/gnome, are they other differences in kubuntu and ubuntu? filesystem layout, etc?
[19:23] <sharkp> don't you think that if I repeat only once the question isn't a problem?
[19:23] <Mamarok> WaaX: no, not AFAIK
[19:23] <WaaX> Mamarok: Thanks!
[19:23] <Mamarok> sharkp: it has nothing to do with the channel being internationl, there's just nobody around who knows
[19:23] <phoenixz> I just reinstalled ubuntu and I have my old installation partition still available with the entire old installation. I mounted it in ~/old. I want to remove most of this partition with rm ~/old/bin ; rm ~/old/lib  for example, but I know there are lots of symbolic links that point towards the REAL /bin and /lib.. How can I first (and safely) eliminate these symbolic links so that my new install will be safe?
[19:24] <Mamarok> phoenixz: you actually want to save the /home content of that old partition?
[19:25] <Mamarok> phoenixz: as all the system files are of no use with the new installation
[19:25] <phoenixz> Mamarok: yeah, but its like 80GB of my old home dir and the new home partition has only like 5GB available.. :)
[19:25] <Mamarok> phoenixz: just remove everything except the old /home
[19:25] <Ab3L> ciao
[19:25] <Ab3L> hi
[19:25] <Mamarok> Ab3L: hi
[19:26] <phoenixz> Mamarok: thats what I want to do, but the thing is loaded with symlinks to /lib and /bin and so... if i do an rm ~/old/bin -rf,  I will end up removing files from /bin too
[19:26] <phoenixz> DONT want to do that! :)
[19:26] <Mamarok> phoenixz: those symlinks should not be in /home AFAIK
[19:26] <Ab3L> shall i park here to understand which are the problems of a common user with kde?
[19:26] <Mamarok> just avoid to use the old ~/.kde/ stuff
[19:26] <phoenixz> I checked with find . -type l and I found various links that point towards absolute paths, starting with / ....
[19:26] <Mamarok> Ab3L: do you have a question in particular?
[19:27] <Ab3L> well i'm a gnomian, not a kdeist. but i think it is good to open my mind to other interfaces.
[19:27] <Mamarok> phoenixz: everything that is in that old /home starting with a dot is of no use anymore, except for some content in .kde/share/
[19:28] <phoenixz> Mamarok: .mozilla is usefull too.. :)
[19:28] <Mamarok> Ab3L: for a broader view you could check in #kde
[19:28] <Mamarok> phoenixz: well, yes, for some settings, but most of the stuff there might just be more of a hindrance than anything else
[19:29] <phoenixz> Mamarok: Im going to dump the majority of home as well, I already know what to delete there and what not.. the problem is thhat I worry about deleting stuff like /bin /usr and /lib since they contain symlinks to my new install..
[19:29] <x_link> Hi!
[19:30] <phoenixz> x_link: hello too..
[19:30] <x_link> =)
[19:30] <Mamarok> phoenixz: it shouldn't or I didn't understand your settings
[19:30] <x_link> I just wanted to ask which tg3-driver that comes with Kubuntu Jaunty/9.04?
[19:30] <Whiz2> I'm about to download kubuntu to put on one of my PCs... but before i do, did they fix the installation issue from previous versions that made it a pain to try to install from a CD?
[19:30] <x_link> Can somebody that uses Jaunty here please take a look?
[19:30] <crichardso> i really want my dual monitor support to be fixed :<
[19:31] <phoenixz> Mamarok: well.. its the /dev/sda2 partition that I mounted in ~/old.. it contains the old ubuntu install that went haywire.. so I reinstalled, and now I want to dump the garbage data from that partition
[19:31] <Mamarok> phoenixz: but you installed on another partition, with a new /home?
[19:31] <phoenixz> Mamarok: but again, that partition is (WAS) the previous installation.. so it contains a real linux install, with symlinks all over the place
[19:31] <phoenixz> Mamarok: correct
[19:32] <Mamarok> phoenixz: then those symlinks point to the old installation, there is no reason why those would point to the new one
[19:32] <x_link> Anybody?
[19:33] <phoenixz> Mamarok: and in my new home dir, there is, for example, ~/old/lib/libgpg-error.la -> /usr/lib/libgpg-error.la    See how that one points to /usr which is the NEW /usr directory?
[19:33] <Mamarok> x_link: patience...
[19:33] <phoenixz> thats my problem.. if I delete that one, the new file gets deleted as well..
[19:34] <Mamarok> phoenixz: if you did a new installation without mounting this partition during your installation, this should not be there
[19:34] <phoenixz> x_link: ubuntu and kubuntu are equal on that level, you could ask in the ubuntu channel since there are more people there
[19:34] <garnacho_> hola
[19:34] <garnacho_> alguien que hable español?
[19:34] <Mamarok> !es | garnacho_
[19:34] <phoenixz> Mamarok: I did not mount it during installation.. the symlinks are there from the previous installation
[19:35] <Mamarok> phoenixz: then you can dump those, they do not point to your new installation
[19:35] <x_link> phoenixz: Okey
[19:35] <Mamarok> phoenixz: don't forget that this old partition contains the previous / system
[19:36] <Mamarok> remove those links and it should not bother you
[19:36] <phoenixz> Mamarok: thats what I am saying.. it contains the previous / system... but the symbolic links in the previous / DO point to the new /... which means, if I delete those, I will delete the ones in the new / as well
[19:37] <Mamarok> phoenixz: no, those are symlinks, not real files
[19:37] <phoenixz> Mamarok: correct.. and deleting those symlinks will NOT remove the real files? even if I remove them as root? (since the filepermissions are the same, those files are root, so I nened to do rm as root)
[19:38] <Mamarok> phoenixz: I don't know how you ended up with those links, but if those are symlinks, this will not touch the files they point to
[19:38] <Mamarok> you are not removing the target files of a link when you remove a link
[19:39] <phoenixz> Mamarok: ah, okay.. I though that if I do a recursive rm ~/old/lib -rf for example, that it would also remove files where the symlinks pointed to..
[19:39] <Mamarok> phoenixz: if you perform a search with the "find" option in Dolphin, you can remove the links directly in there
[19:40] <Mamarok> phoenixz: you might have to run Dolphin with kdesudo though
[19:40] <phoenixz> Mamarok: well, if rm does not remove the file a symlink points to, there is no problem
[20:09] <salohcin> Hello I'm having a litte networking troubleeeee
[20:10] <salohcin> I can conneth wired and wirelesslyct to the network bo
[20:10] <salohcin> ugh
[20:10] <salohcin> I can connect to the network both wired and wirelessly
[20:10] <salohcin> However if I create a second user they cannot connect
[20:11] <salohcin> What could be wrong?
[20:13] <tlaloc> hi ¿amsn+cam install?
[20:14] <genii> salohcin: Likely the second user needs to be in a group such as "dialout" or "plugdev". Compare what groups bothe users belong to. The first is by default a member of admin group but following users should *not* be.
[20:14] <Mamarok> tlaloc: in english, please
[20:15] <tlaloc> how to install a video camera in amsn
[20:16] <Mamarok> tlaloc: sry, I don't know, never used amsn
[20:16] <Mamarok> tlaloc: did you search on their website for instructions?
[20:16] <Being_Tsukasa> question: in Kubuntu, what do i need to install to have volume in youtube videos? or am i really dumb and dont have an audio driver installed?
[20:17] <Mamarok> Being_Tsukasa: this can be a problem related to flash, did it ever work?
[20:17] <tlaloc> 	
[20:17] <tlaloc> how can I install a video camera in ubuntu
[20:18] <Mamarok> tlaloc: a webcan you mean?
[20:18] <Being_Tsukasa> Mamarok: i have never tested volume apart from youtube, and the video works, just not the audio
[20:18] <tlaloc> webcam no
[20:18] <tlaloc> edit video
[20:18] <tlaloc> with a camcorder
[20:18] <Mamarok> Being_Tsukasa: go to system settings -> multimedia and check if the sound works
[20:19] <Mamarok> tlaloc: well, does your camera have an USB port?
[20:19] <tlaloc> usb and firewire
[20:19] <Mamarok> tlaloc: just connect it and you can copy the video from it to your /home
[20:20] <Mamarok> !video
[20:20] <Mamarok> hm, video editing software, let's see
[20:20] <salohcin> genii: Thank you can you test something else for me?
[20:21] <phoenixz> CTRL-F1 gets me to my first desktop, CTRL-F2 gets me to my 2nd desktop.. I have 6 desktops, but CTRL-F5 and CTRL-F6 dont bring me to the 5th and 6th desktop.. How can I configure this?
[20:22] <salohcin> genii: in krunner type login and try to run the login manager
[20:22] <Mamarok> tlaloc: for video edition, try kdenlive
[20:22] <Mamarok> !info kdenlive
[20:22] <tlaloc> thanks
[20:23] <Mamarok> phoenixz: from Ctrl-F5 on there are already hotkey settings for other stuff, you need to configure this if you want to change it
[20:24] <phoenixz> Mamarok: Sounds logical.. Where can I configure this?
[20:24] <Mamarok> phoenixz: systemsettings -> Keyboard&Mouse
[20:24] <phoenixz> Mamarok: thanks!
[20:24] <Mamarok> phoenixz: you are welcome :)
[20:25] <Being_Tsukasa_> ok, i just clicked on something by mistake, and my windows displaying on the bottom bar disappeared, how do i switch this back?
[20:25] <salohcin> Mamarok: ha ha for some reason I read that as you are awesome
[20:25] <Mamarok> Being_Tsukasa: go to the cashew shaped icon on the right of the panel
[20:26] <salohcin> Being_Tsukasa_: Is the rest of the panel still there?
[20:26] <Mamarok> salohcin: some are :)
[20:26] <salohcin> Mamarok: :-)
[20:26] <anonimous_> I did it!!
[20:26] <Being_Tsukasa_> i have the system try still, and the rest of the panel, its just the part that shows the minimzed windows
[20:26] <salohcin> An aside queston is the Login manager supposed to be broken?
[20:26] <Mamarok> salohcin: in Jaunty?
[20:27] <juxbox> why doesn't kubuntu ask me for a root password during installation, and any administrative tasks, it asks for my account's password rather than root?
[20:27] <salohcin> Being_Tsukasa_: There is a button on the far right of the panel click that then add widgets
[20:27] <salohcin>  Mamarok: Yes
[20:27] <Mamarok> salohcin: you talk about kdm, right?
[20:27] <salohcin> The manager for KDM yes
[20:27] <Being_Tsukasa_> what is the widget name?
[20:27] <salohcin> Being_Tsukasa_: Task manager
[20:27] <Mamarok> juxbox: the first user is automatically the system adminstrator and has sudo rights
[20:27] <Being_Tsukasa> sweet thanks
[20:28] <salohcin> !root | juxbox
[20:28] <Mamarok> salohcin: I don't think so, no, works fine here, some graphic glitches on startup that's all
[20:28] <juxbox> ubottu: so how can i remove sudo rights, since this is not safe to be using.
[20:29] <Being_Tsukasa> now, how do i move the widgets around on the bar?
[20:29] <Mamarok> juxbox: this is very save, much saver than root :)
[20:29] <salohcin> Mamarok: I am talking of the login manager under advanced in System Settings
[20:29] <Mamarok> juxbox: it is only granted to the first user
[20:29] <juxbox> but now root is not used in anything rigt?
[20:29] <salohcin> Being_Tsukasa: When the button on the panel is pressed yo ucan drag the widgets around
[20:30] <Being_Tsukasa> cool thanks
[20:30] <Mamarok> salohcin: so do I, works for me
[20:30] <salohcin> .Hmm OK thanks
[20:30] <Mamarok> juxbox: no, there is no root
[20:30] <Being_Tsukasa> its been a few years since i last used linux, in that time a lot has changed
[20:30] <juxbox> i see
[20:30] <Being_Tsukasa> well... more like almost a year
[20:31] <Mamarok> juxbox: if you need admin rights, you do the task with sudo <task>
[20:31] <Being_Tsukasa> that or i forgot a lot :P
[20:31] <juxbox> so how can i install mozilla firefox browser. i don't seem to find it?
[20:31] <Mamarok> Being_Tsukasa: KDE 4 has changed a lot in a year :)
[20:32] <Mamarok> juxbox: it's called firefox, you can add it from the system settings in the menu
[20:33] <Mamarok> juxbox: open "add and remove Software" and type firefox in the search bar
[20:33] <salohcin> Mamarok: ah Well since we brought up KDM. It does not die when I logout
[20:33] <Mamarok> salohcin: same here, but didn't have time to search for a bug till now
[20:33] <juxbox> ya, i did that, and found so many results in there. But i think i'll look in the description.
[20:33] <Mamarok> salohcin: it workd in 4.2.2, it doesn't in 4.2.3
[20:33] <Mamarok> juxbox: there is a meta-package just called firefox
[20:33] <juxbox> so how can i change the look of how kubuntu boots? i mean that blue kubuntu word?
[20:34] <Mamarok> juxbox: on startup you mean?
[20:34] <juxbox> ya
[20:34] <salohcin> Mamarok: Ah I'm on 4.2.85 So what would be the problem? X ?
[20:34] <Being_Tsukasa> back to my audio problem
[20:35] <Mamarok> juxbox: you have to change this in the grub settings
[20:35] <Being_Tsukasa> i have no sound output according to the tests :S
[20:35] <Mamarok> !grub | juxbox
[20:35] <Mamarok> Being_Tsukasa: do you have pulseaudio on top of the list in multimedia?
[20:35] <juxbox> well, i need to change the black screen of grup too
[20:35] <Being_Tsukasa> should it be?
[20:36] <Mamarok> Being_Tsukasa: not really, not in KDE at least
[20:36] <Being_Tsukasa> i do however have the windows audio drivers kickin around, how would i install them on here?
[20:36] <Mamarok> Being_Tsukasa: but do you see your soundcard there?
[20:36] <Being_Tsukasa> yes i do
[20:36] <Mamarok> Being_Tsukasa: no need for windows driver in Linux :)
[20:37] <salohcin> Mamarok: So it's simply broken with no current workaround?
[20:37] <Mamarok> !sound | Being_Tsukasa
[20:37] <Mamarok> salohcin: as I said, I haven't had time to investigate yet, but I hardly ever log out...
[20:37] <salohcin> Mamarok: Ah Well let me try the second user to see if they have network :)
[20:38] <Mamarok> salohcin: network? You were talking about kdm...
[20:39] <salohcin> Mamarok: My inital question was why my second user could not join the network which genii answered
[20:39] <Being_Tsukasa> i do not see a sound system option
[20:39] <juxbox> does kubuntu support screen saver because i need to lock the screen if idle for 4 minutes?
[20:39] <Mamarok> salohcin: ok, you have to add the user to the dialout group I think
[20:40] <salohcin> I did
[20:40] <Mamarok> juxbox: yes, still in system settings -> Desktop
[20:40] <Being_Tsukasa> i should probably test my wireless card too, but that i know how to get working
[20:40] <Mamarok> juxbox: your first time on Linux?
[20:41] <Being_Tsukasa> so, what do i do if i dont see a sound system option under system settings?
[20:41] <Mamarok> Being_Tsukasa: tries Multimedia?
[20:41] <Mamarok> try*
[20:42] <juxbox> Mamarok: no, but first time to kubuntu and kde4.
[20:42] <Mamarok> juxbox: did you use KDE 3 before?
[20:42] <Mamarok> juxbox: then just try and look around, it's not that different
[20:43] <Mamarok> Being_Tsukasa: sorry, that instructions are for Gnome as it seems...
[20:43] <juxbox> Mamarok: ya
[20:43] <juxbox> well, i haven't used ubuntu or kubuntu before so
[20:43] <juxbox> things are very different in here not unix way
[20:44] <Being_Tsukasa> well... i can check it out online, but if you know anything, it will make my life easier :)
[20:44] <Mamarok> juxbox: it's just Linux, there is not much difference from one distro to another, basically the package system, but the desktops should be more or less the same
[20:44] <Being_Tsukasa> just out of curiosity though, how many other girls use linux?
[20:44] <juxbox> ya, but i'm shocked about the nonexsisting root
[20:44] <salohcin> !women
[20:44] <Mamarok> Being_Tsukasa: read the SoundTroubleshooting section in the link I gave you, might help
[20:45] <salohcin> Being_Tsukasa: Quite I few I would guess
[20:45] <Mamarok> Being_Tsukasa: there is no count, but there are many
[20:46] <Mamarok> Being_Tsukasa: does this matter? this is a technical environnment, so who cares...
[20:46] <Being_Tsukasa> just curious
[20:46] <Mamarok> juxbox: sudo is much saver than having a root user
[20:46] <Mamarok> safer*
[20:47]  * Mamarok is getting tired...
[20:47] <juxbox> so is there a way to change the color and feel of the main panel?
[20:48]  * salohcin hugs Mamarok and hands over a pillow
[20:48] <Mamarok> juxbox: System Settings -> Appearance...
[20:48] <Mamarok> salohcin: thx :)
[20:49] <Mamarok> juxbox: I'm sure if you have some Linux experience you can find by yourself too :) Just look around!
[20:49] <juxbox> i looked there, but i can't find much settings
[20:50] <Mamarok> juxbox: color?
[20:50] <Mamarok> juxbox: ok, sorry, misread, you said panel, right?
[20:50] <juxbox> yes the main panel that contains the k menu.
[20:50] <Mamarok> juxbox: right click on the destop -> Appearance Settings
[20:50] <juxbox> hmm
[20:51] <Mamarok> as the Panel is part of the Desktop, its on the Desktop you will find it :)
[20:51] <Being_Tsukasa> hmmm... it would appear my sound card isnt supported :S
[20:51] <Being_Tsukasa> too new...
[20:51]  * Lurkan is away: Ausente por ahora.
[20:52] <Being_Tsukasa> which is odd, as this machine is a year and a half old
[20:52] <Mamarok> Being_Tsukasa: too exotic maybe? where did it say it isn't supported?
[20:53] <Mamarok> !away > Lurkan
[20:53] <Being_Tsukasa> http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Vendor-Intel
[20:53] <Being_Tsukasa> mine is in the ICH8 family
[20:53] <Mamarok> Being_Tsukasa: Intel cards are nearly all supported AFAIK
[20:54] <Mamarok> Being_Tsukasa: read the date at the end of the page: "This page was last modified 05:10, 23 December 2007" ...
[20:54] <Mamarok> Being_Tsukasa: what sound card is it exactly?
[20:55] <Being_Tsukasa> lol... so yeah, its probably supported then, so i will pretend it is and keep going forward
[20:55] <Mamarok> ok, I need some food, bbl
[20:57] <phoenixz> How come that kopete has so many problems where pidgin is so simple? Pidgin is install, run, add google mail account and it works.. kopete doesn't want to connect, doesnt work, etc.. Is there still stuff under development?
[20:58] <drbobb> well kopete *did* work back in kde3
[20:58] <Being_Tsukasa> i wouldnt know, ive had problems with pidgin so far, ill sort it out after my audio
[20:58] <xzewron> phoenixz: I have the same problem.
[20:59] <salohcin> phoenixz: It connects fine here. Did you change the server ?
[20:59] <xzewron> kopete doesnt want to connect for me
[21:00] <drbobb> and pidgin does mostly work, though not equally well with all services
[21:06] <drbobb> hmm pidgin insists on spellchecking my writing, which is pretty useless considering my locale is not english
[21:06] <drbobb> and I can't find any option/setting to turn that nuisance off
[21:06] <drbobb> though I did find a way to easily pick one of about a dozen input methods
[21:06] <drbobb> (I wouldn't know how to use any of them of course)
[21:06] <drbobb> hey lemme ask everybody: do the arrow keys autorepeat for you?
[21:06] <drbobb> cause mine don't, for some reason
[21:07] <drbobb> uhh actually up and right do autorepeat, while down and left don't
[21:07] <drbobb> is that a bug or what?
[21:09] <juxbox> how can i know the owner of a directory?
[21:10] <salohcin> ls -l
[21:10] <salohcin> or right click -> properties in dolphin
[21:11] <neptune_> hello
[21:11] <juxbox> how do you explain this drwx------ 22 ptframe ptframe  4096 2009-05-19 22:38 ptframe
[21:11] <juxbox> and i'm ptframe, yet, i can't write to it.
[21:12] <juxbox> i used chmod 700 against it though could that be the problem?
[21:13] <Mamarok> juxbox: that is not a directory
[21:14] <juxbox> Mamarok: it's /home/ptframe
[21:14] <Mamarok> juxbox: well, actually it is but it doesn't have the right prmissions
[21:14] <juxbox> what permission should i have to access it, but not any other user?
[21:14] <Mamarok> juxbox: sudo chown ptframe -R /home/ptframe/
[21:15] <Being_Tsukasa> when i am doing "sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf" what do i have to do to get this to work "options snd-hda-intel model=dell-m44"?
[21:15] <Mamarok> this will change recursively all to make you the owner
[21:15] <juxbox> Mamarok: why do i have to do that if i already own it?
[21:16] <Being_Tsukasa> because it doesnt look like i did anything when i typed it and hit enter
[21:16] <Mamarok> juxbox: also, you need to set the permissions to drwxr--r--
[21:16] <genii> Mamarok: It looks like they may have recursively 700 from 755 everything in ~
[21:16] <juxbox> but i don't want others to read it
[21:16] <Mamarok> juxbox: whcih would be chown 777
[21:16] <Mamarok> 744
[21:16] <Mamarok> sry
[21:17] <juxbox> Mamarok: wouldn't chmod 740 be ok?
[21:17] <loris> Hi
[21:17] <noaXess> if i switch to many/fast ALT+TAB then keyboard stops working... any idea, tipps?
[21:17] <loris> Wow.. there's a lot of people in there...
[21:17] <Mamarok> loris: most do just linger :)
[21:18] <Mamarok> juxbox: you need to make it readable for all
[21:18] <Mamarok> well, I guess 740 might be ok too...
[21:18] <Mamarok> never did that
[21:18] <juxbox> Mamarok: i don't want it to be readable for all.
[21:18] <Being_Tsukasa> do i have to "^O WriteOut" after?
[21:19] <Mamarok> juxbox: how many other users are there?
[21:19] <genii> Being_Tsukasa: or ctrl-x for exit then just confirm the save name and location
[21:19] <Mamarok> Being_Tsukasa: what do you mean?
[21:19] <Dragnslcr> juxbox- 700 is fine to allow the owner to create files in the directory
[21:20] <Dragnslcr> juxbox- what exactly is failing, and what error message do you get?
[21:20] <Being_Tsukasa> genii: ty
[21:20] <Mamarok> DarkriftX: he has 700 on his home directory...
[21:21] <Being_Tsukasa> now to see if this worked
[21:21] <juxbox> Dragnslcr: i need 700 on my home directory but it's not allowing me to write it
[21:21] <juxbox> to* it
[21:22] <Dragnslcr> juxbox- what exactly are you trying to create, and how are you doing it?
[21:22] <Mamarok> juxbox: why did you change that in the first place?
[21:22] <Dragnslcr> juxbox- and what error message do you get?
[21:23] <juxbox> Dragnslcr: nothing the paste and create new file is deactivated.
[21:23] <Dragnslcr> juxbox- in Dolphin?
[21:23] <juxbox> Mamarok: because i need it 700. That's why
[21:23] <juxbox> Dragnslcr: yes, but in other folders it's activated.
[21:23] <juxbox> directories*
[21:24] <Being_Tsukasa> ok, that got my audio working, but disabled my media control buttons on my lappy
[21:24] <Dragnslcr> juxbox- if you right-click in the window, all of the options under Create New are disabled?
[21:24] <juxbox> Dragnslcr: create new itself is disabled.
[21:25] <Dragnslcr> juxbox- that's pretty odd
[21:25] <Being_Tsukasa> so, how do i manage volume from on the system, rather than with hardwired buttons?
[21:25] <Being_Tsukasa> or enable the buttons again?
[21:25] <juxbox> ptframe@ptframe-laptop:~$ ls -l /home | grep ptframe
[21:25] <juxbox> drwx------ 22 ptframe ptframe  4096 2009-05-19 22:38 ptframe
[21:26] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, permissions look fine
[21:26] <Dragnslcr> Check to see if the disk is full, maybe
[21:27] <drbobb> uh no, he should be able to write to it as it is
[21:27] <drbobb> juxbox: how did you find you can't write to that dir?
[21:28] <drbobb> juxbox: yeah that was my question too - what failed?
[21:28] <drbobb> juxbox: in a terminal, change to that directory and issue something like `touch qqq' or so
[21:28] <drbobb> and see what happens
[21:29] <Dragnslcr> juxbox- if I create a directory owned by my user and set the permissions to 700, the Create New option is enabled
[21:29] <juxbox> ptframe@ptframe-laptop:~$ mkdir delme
[21:29] <juxbox> mkdir: cannot create directory `delme': File exists
[21:29] <Dragnslcr> Well that's an obvious error
[21:29] <juxbox> Dragnslcr: so what's wrong with my case?
[21:30] <Dragnslcr> I dunno
[21:30] <Mamarok> df -h
[21:30] <Dragnslcr> Disk space is the only other thing I can think of offhand
[21:30] <genii> Did you have the file browser open the entire time you were looking at the directory properties/changing them?
[21:31] <Dragnslcr> Check something like pwd as a sanity check to make sure you're really in the directory you think you are
[21:32] <salohcin> Halp!
[21:33] <salohcin> I logged in and the sound went nuts. It's a just a beeping going on constantly
[21:33] <nixx> hello
[21:33] <salohcin> !hi
[21:33] <nixx> :)
[21:33] <mark___> :)
[21:33] <genii> salohcin: Maybe you have a key stuck
[21:33] <nixx> i have a problem to install the ati graphic card drivers
[21:33] <salohcin> genii: Very much not that kind of beeping
[21:34] <Mamarok> nixx: on Jaunty?
[21:34] <salohcin> genii: Think a phone left off the hook beeping to be noticed
[21:34] <nixx> if i install them and make restart my pc ubuntu freezes before thr login shows up
[21:35] <genii> salohcin: Hm. Some boxes make that sound just before shutting down due to overheati
[21:35] <Mamarok> salohcin: do you have something pressing on the keyboard or the mouse?
[21:35] <salohcin> genii: I think it's trying to play the login sound
[21:35] <nixx> hmm i'm not sure :) but it's the actuall version
[21:36] <salohcin> Mamarok: Not that I know of I killed The X server with alt+Sysreq+K since Logging out doesn't work and when I logged in it was doing that
[21:36] <Mamarok> nixx: don't use the fglry drivers, they are broken, you need the radeon drivers instead
[21:36] <salohcin> I rebooted to see if it would reset the audio driver and it's still doing it
[21:36] <nixx> ah okay so better i use the official drivers from the ati website right
[21:37] <Mamarok> nixx: not, those are broken too
[21:37] <drbobb> juxbox: and `touch qqq' said what?
[21:37] <nixx> want only to be sure because i reinstall everything now the 3rd time :)
[21:37] <juxbox> well
[21:37] <juxbox> the problem is with dolphin and /home/ptframe/Video/video directory
[21:37] <Mamarok> nixx: the ATI drivers are broken, they removed support for a lot of cards and fired all the driver developers :(
[21:38] <salohcin> genii: The dialout worked like a charm. I logged in and it instantly logged into the network
[21:38] <salohcin> Mamarok: Wait what?
[21:38] <juxbox> i could make a new dir inside it with mkdir, but couldn't with dolphon what would be wrong them?
[21:38] <nixx> woot that sucks
[21:38] <salohcin> When did they fire the developers? Didn't a new driver just come out sunday?
[21:38] <Mamarok> actually, they fired the developers for financial reasons, then removed the supported cards
[21:38] <genii> salohcin: Good, glad to help on that count at least.
[21:38] <genii> salohcin: As for the sound issues, not my strength
[21:39] <salohcin> crimsum?
[21:39] <nixx> so have i any chance to get them running now !?
[21:39] <phoenixz> When using the Desktop settings interface to download wallpapers, where are these stored?
[21:39] <phoenixz> When using the Desktop settings interface to download wallpapers, where are these stored?
[21:39] <phoenixz> ups
[21:39] <Dragnslcr> juxbox- maybe Dolphin didn't pick up the changed permissions. Try closing Dolphin and starting it again
[21:40] <salohcin> phoenixz: somewhere in ~/.kde I think ~/.kde/share/wallpapers
[21:40] <salohcin> Anyone knows how to reboot a sound card?
[21:40] <juxbox> Dragnslcr: but any other direcotory under /home/ptframe is fine only but that one
[21:40] <phoenixz> salohcin: ah, ok..  Is it possible to define these directories somewherE? I have my wallpapers stored on another location..
[21:41] <salohcin> phoenixz: Not sure. Check in #ghns ?
[21:42] <phoenixz> salohcin: what channel is that?
[21:42] <Mamarok> phoenixz: you can judst add your directory
[21:42] <juxbox> ok my fault
[21:42] <juxbox> i copied it as root. how can i chown it?
[21:42] <salohcin> The channel for the module that the get new wallpapers is built on
[21:42] <nixx> hmm is this driver okay ? http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/legacy/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.17&lang=English
[21:42] <salohcin> juxbox: With chown ?
[21:42] <nixx> i have a X800
[21:42] <KDesk> hi
[21:42] <salohcin> !hi | KDesk
[21:43] <juxbox> ya, chown then what :)
[21:43] <salohcin> juxbox: Then whoever you set it to now owns it
[21:43] <kurumin> hgh
[21:43] <noaXess> how do i force a file system check? on eg. next reboot?
[21:44] <KDesk> I am trying to build an amarok 2.0.96 package for jaunty with the PPA system. But I get an error after "dh build", how can I fix this?
[21:44] <KDesk> cp: cannot stat `debian/tmp/usr/bin/amarok': No such file or directory
[21:44] <KDesk> dh_install: command returned error code 256
[21:45] <genii> noaXess: sudo touch /forcefsck
[21:45] <Mamarok> KDesk: I would ask on the Launchpad-users list
[21:46] <noaXess> genii: aha.. i thought it's something like this :) thanks
[21:46] <genii> noaXess: np
[21:46] <noaXess> genii: will it be deleted after the fsck?
[21:46] <genii> noaXess: Yes, usually
[21:46] <noaXess> okay.
[21:46] <noaXess> other problem, inside from kde4.2.3: if i switch to many/fast ALT+TAB then keyboard stops working... any idea, tipps?
[21:47] <Pie`> I need some help setting up dual monitors
[21:47] <KDesk> Mamarok: ok, I will ask, thanks :)
[21:47] <Mamarok> KDesk: you need qtscriptbindings1 and taglib-extras, do you have those?
[21:48] <nixx> mamarok: hmm is this driver okay ? http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/legacy/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.17&lang=English
[21:48] <Mamarok> nixx: I don't know
[21:49] <Mamarok> nixx: but in general, I don't trust the drivers from AMD, most of the time they make things worse
[21:49] <KDesk> Mamarok: yes, I have those. libtag-extras-dev and libqtscriptbindings1 as build deps. And the kubuntu-experiental ppa as ppa dependency.
[21:49] <noaXess> Pie`: what graficcard?
[21:50] <Pie`> noaXess: nvidia 8600gt
[21:50] <Mamarok> KDesk: AFAIK, the Kubuntu devs are already working on packages
[21:50] <nixx> okay  kind of sucks last time everything was fine with the drivers :)
[21:50] <nixx> anyway let's try it :)
[21:50] <noaXess> try "NVIDIA X Server Settings" from kmenu
[21:50] <KDesk> Mamarok: ah, that is good to know :)
[21:51] <noaXess> Pie`: see two lines above ;)
[21:51] <Pie`> I don't appear to have that noaXess
[21:52] <Mamarok> KDesk: but there are problems, you might want to get in touch with them
[21:52] <KDesk> Mamarok: is there a channel ? kubuntu-devel?
[21:52] <Mamarok> KDesk: yes
[21:53] <noaXess> Pie`: install package nvidia-settings: sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[21:53] <noaXess> !info nvidia | Pie`
[21:53] <KDesk> Mamarok: ok, thanks!
[21:53] <Pie`> I'll have to wait for sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop first :D
[21:53] <Mamarok> KDesk: you are welcome :)
[21:53] <noaXess> !nvidia | Pie`
[21:53] <justin___> hey i am bored is there anyone interesting to talk to in here
[21:53] <noaXess> justin___: why not?
[21:54] <noaXess> justin___: whats about your ___
[21:54] <Mamarok> justin___, noaXess go to #kubuntu-offtopic
[21:54] <Mamarok> !chat
[21:54] <Mamarok> right...
[21:54] <Pie`> I prefer Pidgin to Kopete
[21:54] <Pie`> but thats jsut preference ;)
[21:54] <noaXess> Mamarok: no problem.. but i stil have my ALT+TAB prolem
[21:55] <Mamarok> noaXess: you don't have to leave here, just do the talking elsewhere :)
[21:55] <noaXess> i know.. :) the rules
[21:55] <noaXess> if i switch to many/fast ALT+TAB then keyboard stops working... any idea, tipps?
[21:55] <drbobb> in the add plasmoid dialog, some plasmoids in the list display some sort of hourglass thingy by their names, what does that mean?
[21:56] <Mamarok> noaXess: I can't reproduce, sry
[21:56] <Dragnslcr> drbobb- I was wondering that myself
[21:57] <noaXess> Mamarok: i don't see any entries in log's after keyboard stops working.. if i change to console 1 (CTRL+ALT+1) then my keyboard works.. only a kde/kdm problem
[21:57] <nixx> sorry but how can i test again if accelerated 3d works
[21:58] <drbobb> It's not good UI design, using elements many user will have a hard time figuring out the meaning of
[21:59] <FrauHansen> Hi. Im trying to compile a bluetooth tool using gcc but i'm getting "bluetooth/bluetooth.h : No such file or directory
[22:00] <FrauHansen> but i have all the bluez-stuff installed and even the files are there (located them with find) what am i missing here?
[22:01] <juxbox> what's the best download manager that integrate into firefox that can resume downloads and can download youtube videos?
[22:09] <justin___> ok so like I went to try and get pidgin but it is talking that I have to build it how do I build it?
[22:09] <Mamarok> noaXess: justin___ you don't have to build it, isn't it in the repositories?
[22:09] <Mamarok> !pidgin
[22:11] <ultratek> i downloaded the latest fire fox bz2 because i broke my original installation which wont work via deb and synaptic...how do i extract and where to install?
[22:12] <ultratek> i do not have a way of getting on the web now
[22:14] <FrauHansen> ultratek: why don't you use konqueror until firefox is fixed?
[22:15] <dyn0myt3> Try Opera
[22:15] <ultratek> so there has been a problem with firefox that is out of my hands anyway?
[22:16] <ultratek> i was getting some java script error with speed dial so i disabled it..which happed after running firefox as sudo in termianl
[22:16] <ultratek> then i rebooted and got the sudo firefox responding correctly but not user
[22:16] <ultratek> then it finally broke
[22:17] <Mamarok> ultratek: why do you run firefox with admin rights?
[22:18] <Mamarok> ultratek: tried moving .mozilla?
[22:18] <ultratek> well how so and how do i get it back and working cuz it wont even when i install all necessities through synaptic
[22:19] <Mamarok> ultratek: first of all, there is no reason to run applications with sudo rights, unless it's for system administration
[22:19] <Mamarok> ultratek: try the following:
[22:20] <Mamarok> mv .mozilla/ .mozilla:old/
[22:20] <alex___> does anyone have an exe program
[22:20] <Mamarok> then try restarting firefox, but just as a normal user
[22:20] <ultratek> well i was trying to login through firefox into swat as root which wouldnt aceppt root as user  for some reason like before
[22:20] <Mamarok> alex___: exe programs are for Windows only
[22:20] <alex___> so what do i use
[22:21] <Mamarok> alex___: what do you want to do?
[22:21] <dyn0myt3> Alex what are you trying to do?
[22:21] <alex___> install wine
[22:21] <ultratek> mamarok, i did the cmd but i cant start firefox even once it is install because i used: rm -rf /opt
[22:22] <alex___> where can i go to install wine
[22:22] <Mamarok> ultratek: why did you do that?
[22:22] <ultratek> sudo apt-get install wine
[22:22] <juxbox> anybody having a problem with dolphin? It hangs up frequenly with me.
[22:22] <Mamarok> anyway, firefox is not installed in /opt anyway AFAIK
[22:22] <ultratek> trying to clear it out completely for new installation
[22:23]  * Mamarok really wonders what goes wrong today, everything works for here...
[22:23] <Mamarok> ultratek: you should not touch the system folders unless you know what you are doing...
[22:23] <ultratek> well according to a doc on ubuntu.org it is when installing from bz2 i guess
[22:23] <Mamarok> ultratek: what else did you change?
[22:24] <ultratek> wait i rm /opt/firefox not the rest
[22:24] <alex___> can some one come into my computer and set me up
[22:24] <Mamarok> ultratek: firefox is in the repositories, you do not need to compile yourself
[22:24] <justin___> what is a repositorie?
[22:24] <Mamarok> alex___: baaad idea, unless you really trust somebody
[22:24] <ultratek> i know but i cant get it to work from the repositories because i rm the firefox dir
[22:25] <ner0x> My flash does not have sound in firefox, any suggestions?
[22:25] <Mamarok> justin___: it is the folders on the Ubuntu servers where the packages are hosted
[22:25] <alex___> mamrok can i trust you
[22:25] <justin___> how do i get there?
[22:25] <Aronis> Hello..
[22:26] <Mamarok> alex___: I do not do remote support, and I am not a wine specialist
[22:26]  * Mamarok tries to catch up
[22:26] <Aronis> Does anyone know how to solve the problem with flash without sound in firefox?
[22:27] <Mamarok> please, everybody, calm down, I try to sort this out, but patience!!!
[22:27] <Mamarok> ok, ultratek, you first:
[22:27] <Mamarok> ultratek: you run Jaunty, right?
[22:28] <ultratek> 64 yes
[22:28] <Mamarok> and you know how to use the package manager?
[22:28] <alex___> I NEED HELP VERY BAD
[22:28] <Mamarok> alex___: patience!
[22:29] <Mamarok> alex___: I am alone here and have at least three others who were here first!
[22:29] <alex___> mamarok do you go to school
[22:29] <Mamarok> alex___: just wait, please
[22:29] <alex___> ok
[22:29] <Mamarok> ultratek: answer?
[22:29] <ultratek> k
[22:29] <ultratek> yes
[22:30] <ultratek> sry i was reading
[22:30] <Mamarok> ultratek: then remove and install firefox again
[22:30] <alex___> i will be right back
[22:30] <ultratek> k
[22:30] <Mamarok> ultratek: and do not go into system folders unless you really know what you do...
[22:31] <Mamarok> justin___: what help do you need?
[22:31] <justin___> I am wondering where I go for this repositoie  thingy for downloads
[22:32] <ultratek> mamarok, it is doing what it did before the lil hourglass spinning thing for the mouse comes up for a while and nothing happens
[22:32] <Mamarok> ultratek: the package manager?
[22:33] <ultratek> mamarok when i go to start firefox
[22:33] <Mamarok> justin___: the repositories are configured by default, got to system settings -> "Add or remove software" and use the search field
[22:33] <ultratek> after pkgmanager
[22:33] <Mamarok> ultratek: did you read what I told you earlier?
[22:33] <ultratek> rm then install
[22:33] <ultratek> i already had it rm
[22:34] <ner0x> Reinstall firefox to fix the flash problem?
[22:34] <Mamarok> ultratek: no, I didn't tell you that at all
[22:34] <ultratek> sry
[22:34] <Mamarok> ultratek: I told you to remove and install firefox using the package manager, do *not* remove packages manually
[22:34] <ner0x> Mamarok: Got your hands full? hah
[22:34] <ryanakca> justin___: To add and remove programs?
[22:34] <ultratek> i did do it through the pkg manager
[22:35] <ign0ramus> ner0x, flash is not working in firefox?
[22:35] <Mamarok> ner0x: this was not an advice for you, read correctly!
[22:35] <ryanakca> oops, already answered, nevermind
[22:35] <ultratek> yesterday was the only thing i erased-firefox using rm
[22:35] <justin___> I dont see it on the list
[22:35] <Mamarok> ultratek: never do that, that's not how it works
[22:36] <ultratek> k
[22:36] <Mamarok> ryanakca: could you help out?
[22:36] <alex___> back
[22:36] <ryanakca> Mamarok: yes, with whom?
[22:36] <ner0x> ign0ramus: Correct.
[22:36] <ign0ramus> ner0x, are you on 64bit version?
[22:36] <ner0x> Mamarok: I know it wasn't. Thought I may have stumble upon the channel after it was asked.
[22:36] <Mamarok> ryanakca: well, nearly everybody right now, I need a coffee first
[22:36] <ner0x> ign0ramus: Yes.
[22:37] <ign0ramus> ner0x, did you upgrade to jaunty or fresh install?
[22:37] <ner0x> ign0ramus: Fresh install.
[22:37] <Aronis> Mamarok: Have you ever faced this kind of problem with flash without sound in firefox?
[22:37] <ign0ramus> ner0x, ok we'll try the basics ... do "sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-* --purge"
[22:37] <alex___> no
[22:38] <ign0ramus> ner0x, then do: "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"
[22:38] <Mamarok> Aronis: yes, numerous times, but it was related to the flash plugin most of the times
[22:38]  * Mamarok doesn't need a coffee but a bed...
[22:38] <ign0ramus> ner0x, then restart firefox... try youtube or something...
[22:38] <ner0x> Package manager is just a frontend for apt?
[22:38] <ryanakca> ultratek: Did you get your issue with firefox solved?
[22:38] <juxbox> is there a way to safe remove flash drives?
[22:39] <ultratek> no
[22:39] <Aronis> i believe so, but i've tried all possibilities found on google, do you have any idea?
[22:39] <ultratek> i got the firefox dir back into opt
[22:39] <ryanakca> ner0x: Yes, which is a front end for dpkg, if I'm not mistaken
[22:39] <ner0x> ryanakca: So many. :)
[22:39] <ultratek> from a compile of the downloaded file
[22:40] <ryanakca> ultratek: That isn't supported here, please ask in #firefox
[22:40] <ner0x> ign0ramus: Okay, no flash at all now.
[22:40] <ign0ramus> ner0x, you did "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"?
[22:40] <ner0x> ign0ramus: Yeah, I just noticed. Didn't see that, sorry. ONe moment.
[22:40] <ultratek> k
[22:40] <ign0ramus> ner0x, k
[22:40] <ryanakca> ultratek: If you want to uninstall that version of firefox and install the one that (K)Ubuntu distributes then we can help you.
[22:41] <ner0x> ign0ramus: This installs proprietary drivers?
[22:41] <ner0x> ign0ramus: software* sorry.
[22:41] <Aronis> Mamarok: i believe so, but i've tried all possibilities found on google, do you have any idea?
[22:41] <ign0ramus> ner0x, well, the kubuntu packaged ones, yes
[22:41] <ign0ramus> ner0x, hence the "nonfree"
[22:41] <ultratek> k,, i will got to # firefox, thank you all
[22:41] <Mamarok> Aronis: please ask sombody else, I'm off for today, sry
[22:41] <ryanakca> Aronis: do any other sound applications work?
[22:42] <Aronis> yes, perfectly
[22:42] <Aronis> just flash videos on firefox dont
[22:42] <ryanakca> Aronis: How did you install flash?
[22:42] <ner0x> ign0ramus: It doesn't seem to work now.
[22:42] <juxbox> so how can i install the cli version only of mplayer?
[22:42] <ign0ramus> ner0x, ok... close firefox
[22:42] <Aronis> donwloading at adobe website
[22:42] <ign0ramus> ner0x, do: "sudo apt-get remove --purge swfdec-mozilla swfdec-gnome mozilla-plugin-gnash gnash
[22:43] <Aronis> the .deb file
[22:43] <ryanakca> Aronis: ok, what was the name of the deb file?
[22:43] <ner0x> ign0ramus: None installed.
[22:43] <ign0ramus> ner0x, is anything marked for removal?
[22:43] <ign0ramus> ner0x, ok
[22:43] <ryanakca> juxbox: install mplayer-nogui if I remember correctly
[22:43] <ign0ramus> ner0x, are you running compiz?
[22:43] <ner0x> ign0ramus: I believe so.
[22:44] <Aronis> ryanakca: install_flash_player_10_linux.deb
[22:44] <ign0ramus> ner0x, well, it makes a difference if you are... so...
[22:44] <ign0ramus> ner0x, if you are, do: "sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager"
[22:44] <ner0x> ign0ramus: ign0ramus KDE 4.2 with the gfx features, so I would assume so.
[22:44] <ign0ramus> ner0x, those are powered by kwin, i believe
[22:44] <Aronis> I solved! it was just the channel on mixer that was mute
[22:45] <ner0x> ign0ramus: I believe it uses compiz though.
[22:45] <Aronis> PCM channel
[22:45] <ign0ramus> ner0x, ok, then do the command above for compiz settings
[22:45] <ryanakca> Aronis: what does ``sudo dpkg -r install_flash_player_10_linux.deb'' do?
[22:45] <ner0x> ign0ramus: Okay, it's installed.
[22:46] <Aronis> it is supposed do reinstall the driver
[22:46] <Aronis> but it seems to be okay now
[22:46] <ign0ramus> ner0x, now if you run "compizconfig-settings-manager", you should be able to disable
[22:46] <ryanakca> Aronis: Hmm? No, Uninstall the version you manually installed, then
[22:46] <ryanakca> !flash | Aronis
[22:46] <Aronis> thank you
[22:46] <ign0ramus> "Undirect Full Screen Windows" ner0x
[22:48] <ner0x> ign0ramus: Aapparently kwin rewrote their own compiz drivers.
[22:48] <Aronis> ubottu: I know that, I work ubuntu for years, now I am tring to like KDE
[22:48] <ign0ramus> ner0x, so that command does not help you?
[22:48] <ner0x> ign0ramus: Does not. Sorry.
[22:48] <ign0ramus> ner0x, ok... we'll try from the source, then. do: "sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-* --purge" again
[22:49] <ner0x> ign0ramus: ign0ramus done.
[22:49] <ign0ramus> ner0x, get 64bit Flash from Adobe: http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/libflashplayer-10.0.22.87.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz
[22:49] <ner0x> ign0ramus: I can not automate this?
[22:49] <ner0x> ign0ramus: I must install manually?
[22:50] <ign0ramus> ner0x, well, we've tried the packaged versions, and they don't seem to help...
[22:51] <ner0x> ign0ramus: Okay. Where should I put the library?
[22:51] <ign0ramus> ner0x, "cd" to the Directory where you've downloaded the package, and do: "tar -xzvf  libflashplayer-10.0.22.87.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz"
[22:51] <ner0x> I got the file out of the tar archive.
[22:51] <ign0ramus> ner0x, place the extracted folder in ~/.mozilla/plugins
[22:52] <ign0ramus> ner0x, if that folder doesn't exist, create it
[22:52] <ign0ramus> ner0x, then restart firefox
[22:52] <ner0x> ign0ramus: .. oh my god..
[22:53] <ign0ramus> well.. ?
[22:53] <ner0x> ign0ramus: Apparently by default flash uses a different channel rather than the default one for sound.
[22:53] <ner0x> It was just me moving the volume up.
[22:53] <ner0x> ign0ramus: How dumb is that.
[22:53] <ign0ramus> ner0x, hahaha!
[22:53] <ign0ramus> ner0x, PCM
[22:53] <ner0x> ign0ramus: I have intel HD audio, everything else goes to another device..
[22:53] <ner0x> By default.
[22:54] <ner0x> I'd like to install non-free again.
[22:54] <ner0x> If I can, I"m sure it'll work now. :(
[22:54]  * ner0x grumbles.
[22:54] <ign0ramus> ner0x, just remove the file from ~/.mozilla/plugins and do "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"
[22:54] <ign0ramus> ner0x, lol
[22:54] <ner0x> ign0ramus: Now that doesn't make me dumb!
[22:54] <ner0x> That's poor planning on the software's part.
[22:55] <ign0ramus> ner0x, not really.... i should have asked, but i thought you weren't getting flash to work *at all*
[22:55] <ign0ramus> ner0x, i was just trying to take the load off Mamarok
[22:55] <ner0x> I'm by no means a n00b. :) This is the first thing that was a problem...
[22:55] <ner0x> I can't believe it defaults to a different device.
[22:55]  * ner0x grumbles again.
[22:55] <ign0ramus> ner0x, by default, Flash plugin uses OSS, which for your purposes, can be controlled by PCM volume slider
[22:56] <ner0x> ign0ramus: OSS is deprecated is it not?
[22:56] <ign0ramus> ner0x, also, to change default sound slider, you can right click on kmix icon and Set Default Master
[22:56] <ner0x> ign0ramus: I default it to "Master" so I can control all of them.
[22:56] <ign0ramus> ner0x, OSS is still the layer that directly communicates with hardware
[22:57] <ner0x> ign0ramus: I'll just move PCM up to max
[22:57] <ner0x> ign0ramus: I thought replaced by alsa?
[22:57] <ign0ramus> ner0x, generally it goes: Sound Device > OSS > Alsa > Pulse Audio
[22:57] <ign0ramus> ner0x, which is a freakin mess :/
[22:57] <ner0x> ign0ramus: Yeah, that is pretty bad.
[22:58] <ign0ramus> ner0x, i personally hate Pulse, but the devs insist its more flexible.
[22:58] <ner0x> ign0ramus: alsa always worked for me.
[22:58] <ign0ramus> ner0x, me too ;)
[22:58] <ign0ramus> ner0x, and (once you found out how), it was easy to configure
[22:59] <ner0x> ign0ramus: Well, I lied. Sometimes I can't figure out the sound. hah
[22:59] <ign0ramus> ner0x, who expects mute as a default?
[22:59] <ner0x> ign0ramus: Not I.
[22:59] <ign0ramus> ner0x, you and a million others that had the same problem :)
[23:00] <ner0x> ign0ramus: I bet. I like kubuntu so far. No hiccups
[23:00] <ign0ramus> ner0x, what kind of graphics do you have?
[23:00] <ner0x> ign0ramus: Define graphics? Driver? Card? Pretty GUI things?
[23:00] <ign0ramus> ner0x, intel, ati, or nvidia?
[23:00] <ner0x> ign0ramus: nvidia
[23:01] <ign0ramus> ner0x, that's why you like kubuntu :)
[23:01] <ner0x> ati and intel not so friendly?
[23:01] <ign0ramus> ner0x, if you had ati or intel you'd be agonizing over workarounds and other hacks
[23:01] <ign0ramus> ner0x, not yet, it isn't
[23:01] <ner0x> Nvidia has long been better supported in the linux community.
[23:01] <ign0ramus> ner0x, i have an unsupported kernel and a PPA for intel drivers, just to have a usuable desktop
[23:02] <ner0x> ign0ramus: Ick.
[23:02] <ign0ramus> ner0x, it works well now, so not too bad... i just hope these are fixed for Karmic
[23:02] <ner0x> Karmic?
[23:02] <ner0x> Next Release?
[23:02] <ign0ramus> ner0x, Jaunty (KDE version) was a lot of new changes and re-writes
[23:02] <ign0ramus> ner0x, yup
[23:03] <ner0x> ign0ramus: What's the release date?
[23:03] <ign0ramus> ner0x, October
[23:03] <ner0x> ign0ramus: Not to far away. Every 6 months?
[23:03] <ign0ramus> ner0x, yup
[23:03] <ign0ramus> ner0x, which is sometimes a bad thing... devs have to rush to put out an OS that may or may not be ready
[23:09] <ner0x> ign0ramus: Yeah, sometimes you can't rush that stuff.
[23:14] <silentstri16_> is there a wasy to build a pre-built environment with kubuntu? a program or something?
[23:15] <piccolino_> sera
[23:16] <zmitya> hi all
[23:16] <zmitya> I have a fresh jaunty install
[23:16] <zmitya> in KDE I'm unable to create a panel in my right side of my screen
[23:17] <ubuntu> i was woundering how does someone combind 2 80 gig's and make it 160 gig of hard drive space on there computer???
[23:17] <zmitya> it puts to the top, but I can't move it to the right side of my screen somehow
[23:17] <zmitya> can sy please help me ?
[23:17] <zmitya> ubuntu: with raid 0 or with LVM
[23:17] <ubuntu> i don't know much about computer's srry to say
[23:18] <silentstri16_> can anyone tell me if there is a program/tool/suite of tools to build a pre-built environment so I can retrieve data from the computer i believe  is affected
[23:18] <ubuntu> the hard drives r both westerns
[23:18] <ner0x> ubuntu: You don't combine them?
[23:19] <ubuntu> then how can i get 160 gig's from them???
[23:19] <ner0x> ubuntu: You don't "get" it, it's already there.
[23:19] <ubuntu> i know that there is a way to make 2 80 gig's into 160 gig but i don't know how to do that, though
[23:19] <ubuntu> not in window's
[23:20] <zmitya> ubuntu: do you mean 16-G in one big "partition" ?
[23:20] <zmitya> ubuntu: do you mean 160G in one big "partition" ?
[23:20] <ubuntu> yes
[23:20] <zmitya> ubuntu: with raid 0 or with LVM
[23:20] <ubuntu> either on
[23:20] <ubuntu> one
[23:20] <ubuntu> i don't know what raid 0 or with LVM mean's srry to say
[23:21] <ubuntu> i don't know much about computer's but i'm gonna learn ,thnx to u guy's help  ^_^
[23:21] <zmitya> well, not really easy to tell it in a few lines
[23:21] <zmitya> lets google for that
[23:21] <ubuntu> i did google and nothing, that's why i'm here
[23:21] <zmitya> usually you want to do it install time, but it is possible to do it with an existing OS
[23:22] <ubuntu> ok
[23:22] <ner0x> ubuntu: Are you on linux right now?
[23:22] <zmitya> ubuntu: http://ds9a.nl/lvm-howto/HOWTO//cvs/lvm-howto/output/lvm-howto.html#toc2
[23:22] <lars> some idées about getting s-video port to be recognized?
[23:22] <ubuntu> kubuntu live disc is what i'm us'n right now to talk to u guy's becuz i don't have a os on the computer rite now
[23:23] <ubuntu> what's the link?
[23:23] <zmitya> ubuntu that is good... choose manual partitioning and there will be an LVM possibility somewhere
[23:23] <zmitya> sorry can't help you in more detailed
[23:24] <ubuntu> ok but what about for WINDOW'S???
[23:25] <zmitya> ubuntu: ??
[23:25] <lovre> how do i know what opengl i have installed?
[23:26] <zmitya> on windows lets buy a HW raid card, setup raid0 and install windows on it and go to #windows I think
[23:26] <ubuntu> i was using window's and i wanted to put both of my hard drives that are both 80 gig's into 160 gig of hard drive space from installing window's
[23:27] <dyn0myt3> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_Volume_Manager_(Linux)
[23:31] <wirechief> lovre: what does this give you ? glxinfo |grep version
[23:32] <lovre> server glx version string: 1.4
[23:32] <lovre> client glx version string: 1.4
[23:32] <lovre> GLX version: 1.3
[23:32] <lovre> OpenGL version string: 2.1.2 NVIDIA 180.44
[23:32] <lovre> OpenGL shading language version string: 1.20 NVIDIA via Cg compiler
[23:34] <wirechief> lovre well this more like what you are wanting ....dpkg -l |grep opengl
[23:38] <winterelf> hi . need help please... my kubuntu stack after the grub, when the screen with the "kubuntu" name is in the middle and the scroll blue line that goes back and forward freeze too... i booted from live cd  and removed the name "splash" from the menu.lst so i could see the problam, and i booted again from grub , after this it says some wierd error of 4 lines and than just rapeat on the same error again and again .. so i guess this is for the freeze... anyone 
[23:40] <ign0ramus> winterelf, the exact error could prove helpful
[23:40] <lovre> wirechief: ty
[23:42] <rmrfslash> Oh snap!!! New fglrx (Catalyst 9.5) on AMD website!
[23:42] <rmrfslash> :D
[23:43] <rmrfslash> If this actually works, I might claim to have the perfect Linux installation on a laptop :)
[23:43] <rmrfslash> Everything working.
[23:44] <rmrfslash> Skype video/audio, DVD playback, hardware accel, resume/suspend, USB Broadband internet, WiFi, and more.
[23:45] <winterelf> ign0ramus: i will write the error but it won't look good
[23:45] <winterelf> ata3: status : {ddrdy err}
[23:45] <winterelf> ata3: error: {unc}
[23:45] <winterelf> ata3:exception emask 0x0 sAct 0x0 serr 0x0 action 0x0
[23:45] <winterelf> ata3:bmdma stat 0x24
[23:45] <winterelf> ata3:cmd 25/00:00:3f:b0:c9/00:04:1c:00:00:e0 tag o dma ....
[23:47] <ign0ramus> winterelf, well, could be a bad HDD... do you have any other OS's on this computer?
[23:49] <winterelf> ign0ramus:i have windows working... it's a laptop
[23:50] <ign0ramus> winterelf, ok, let's make a backup first... do: "sudo cp /etc/modprobe.d/options /etc/modprobe.d/options.bak"
[23:53] <winterelf> ho, but i m on my laptop right now, and i can run kubuntu only if i m running it under live cd...
[23:53] <ign0ramus> winterelf, you can get it running on livecd?
[23:54] <winterelf> yes... i will move to another computer and i will be back in here . ok?
[23:54] <ign0ramus> winterelf, ok
[23:59] <phoenixz> Is there some place  / repo where I could find newer versions of either Firefox (3.1), Amarok (2.1) or Quassel (just anything newer) ?
[23:59] <phoenixz> Current versions of these softwares (with exception of firefox) suck badly..