[00:01] <arand> hmm, true... ie is a nice unusual combo, well decisive moment was when I heard someone try to pronounce ienorand :)
[00:02] <BUGabundo> hehehe
[00:04] <robin0800> Sevenhill: On kubuntu the log says wpasupplicant cannot connect to the driver but it works ok in ubuntu so bug is probably in kde
[00:05] <Sevenhill> robin0800: the bug is about plasma-widget-networkmanager
[00:05] <Sevenhill> robin0800:  which means svn 951801  working but svn 966653 is not   ( versions of that widget )
[00:06] <robin0800> Sevenhill: Has bug been raised?
[00:06] <Sevenhill> you mean reported ?
[00:06] <robin0800> Sevenhill: Yes
[00:07] <Sevenhill> i don't report but maybe other 9.10 users did it
[00:08] <Sevenhill> robin0800:  i mean i don't check any bug report exists or not
[00:08] <BluesKaj> Sevenhill, do you mean there's hope for my belkin USB wifi yet ? It worked ok in jaunty (ndiswrapper/windows rt2870 driver) but not here on Karmic.
[00:08] <Sevenhill> BluesKaj: sure
[00:09] <Sevenhill> BluesKaj:  just install 951801 version of plasma-widget-networkmanager
[00:09] <Sevenhill> BluesKaj:  try this : http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/p/plasma-widget-networkmanagement/plasma-widget-networkmanagement_0.1~svn951801-1_i386.deb
[00:09] <Sevenhill> BluesKaj:  but first remove old package
[00:10] <BluesKaj> svn eh, never had much luck with svn apps
[00:10] <Sevenhill> BluesKaj: all of them svn :)
[00:10] <Sevenhill> BluesKaj:  just remove old package then install this one
[00:10] <Sevenhill> then restart
[00:11] <Sevenhill> it will work probably
[00:11] <BluesKaj> it asks for packagekit to open it
[00:11] <Sevenhill> BluesKaj: just save it to disk
[00:11] <BluesKaj> yeah
[00:11] <Sevenhill> the you will install it with sudo dpkg -i blablabla.deb
[00:12] <BluesKaj> right
[00:12] <Sevenhill> robin0800: i will compile kde from svn tomorrow then i will check with newer version of that widget ( from svn trunk )
[00:13] <BluesKaj> Sevenhill, will dpkg -r svn 966653 work?
[00:14] <BluesKaj> to remove the old widget
[00:14] <Sevenhill> i don't try that
[00:14] <Sevenhill> i just typed :
[00:14] <Sevenhill> sudo apt-get remove plasma-widget-network*
[00:15] <BUGabundo> sudo apt-get remove *--purge* plasma-widget-network*
[00:15] <BluesKaj> ok removing
[00:16] <Sevenhill> then i used  sudo dpkg -i plasma-widget-networkmanagement_0.1~svn951801-1_i386.deb
[00:16] <Sevenhill> after that i rebooted system ( i don't know why but killing only X doesn't work )
[00:17] <Sevenhill> BluesKaj: installed olderversion ?
[00:19] <BluesKaj> Sevenhill, uninstalled old version first ,yes
[00:19] <Sevenhill> BluesKaj: then now install that file
[00:19] <BluesKaj> old meaning 966653
[00:19] <Sevenhill> sudo dpkg -i plasma-widget-networkmanagement_0.1~svn951801-1_i386.deb
[00:20] <BluesKaj> yes , done
[00:20] <Sevenhill> now reboot
[00:20]  * BUGabundo no sudo rm -rf /
[00:21] <BluesKaj> rebooting
[00:21] <Sevenhill> BUGabundo: i have mounted my / as /home and formatted /home thinking that was my old /
[00:21] <BUGabundo> opps
[00:22] <Sevenhill> yes i said exacly same thing after seeing grub menu
[00:22] <Sevenhill> and the content of my new /home
[00:27] <BluesKaj> wifi is connected :)
[00:27] <Sevenhill> :) BluesKaj
[00:27] <BluesKaj> thx Sevenhill :)
[00:27] <Sevenhill> No problem
[00:28] <Sevenhill> that was a confirmation of that BUG
[00:28] <BUGabundo> me what ?!?!
[00:28] <BluesKaj> now I can move the cat 5 cable back to the bedroom pc
[00:28] <robin0800> Thanks all it now works again  Also need to fix mobile broardband not connecting also plasma networkmanager  fault?
[00:29] <Sevenhill> robin0800:  what you mean ?
[00:29] <Sevenhill> BluesKaj:  i also have cat 5
[00:30] <Sevenhill> BluesKaj:  opps  -> i also haTe cat5
[00:32] <robin0800> Sevenhill: Got a mobile broardband dongle it is seen and can be configured but it never connects works in ubuntu and kppp gnome-ppp etc
[00:32] <BluesKaj> Router is in the TV room , where we originally set up our first computer 10 yrs ago and the phone/dsl line is closes to the ma bell box there , so everything just sort of expanded from there as we acquired more pcs over the yrs
[00:33] <Sevenhill> robin0800: is it using at commands ?
[00:33] <Sevenhill> robin0800:  probably the phone company changed its gprs connection phone number
[00:34] <robin0800> Sevenhill: Yes
[00:35] <Sevenhill> robin0800: i had a similar tool it was using *99#
[00:35] <Sevenhill> then it starts to not to work
[00:35] <Sevenhill> then i found that company changed its phone number to *99,01#
[00:36] <Sevenhill> you have to call the gprs company which you are getting gprs service
[00:37] <robin0800> Sevenhill: Gnome has a wizard that is easy use, phone number is *99# You input that number it can't be wrong?
[00:38] <Sevenhill> no i mean the company changed its connection number
[00:38] <Sevenhill> its number wasn't *99#
[00:38] <Sevenhill> but i forget its new number
[00:39] <robin0800> Sevenhill: No but embeded at commands could be wrong?
[00:40] <robin0800> Sevenhill: It is still *99# and works with other programs as this
[00:40] <Sevenhill> then it is a diffrent problem than i have faced
[00:42] <robin0800> SeThis bug? appeard in 4.2 Knetworkmanager the old one also works
[00:44] <robin0800> Sevenhill: This bug? appeard in 4.2 Knetworkmanager the old one also works
[00:44] <Sevenhill> robin0800: hmm
[00:45] <Sevenhill> BluesKaj: please confirm this : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-widget-network-manager/+bug/378145
[00:47] <robin0800> Sevenhill: bug 378145 that is exactly what I did
[00:48] <Sevenhill> robin0800: :) because i open that bug
[00:48] <Sevenhill> is that solution works for you ?
[00:49] <Sevenhill> if yes wrote there this solution fixed my wpa connection error , or something like that :)
[00:49] <Sevenhill> BluesKaj: are you there ?
[00:51] <BluesKaj> yup, Sevenhill , done ..altho I somehow mispelled install :)
[00:52] <BluesKaj> thx again Sevenhill , gonna watch some TV with wifey foe a bit
[00:53] <Sevenhill> BluesKaj:   click that link " This bug affects me too"
[00:53] <Sevenhill> Blueskaj-gone: BluesKaj:   click that link " This bug affects me too"
[00:53] <arand> By the way does anyone have access to the yelp files on gnome, theme customization, window selector etc.? They seem to be horribly innacurate from what I've heard (unfortunately, a bug stops me from accessing it on kk)
[00:56] <BUGabundo1> bed time. its 1am! kiss kiss and free hugs!
[00:56] <thiebaude> until later
[01:04] <robin0800> BUGabundo: You in uk ?
[01:07] <arand> gmt+dst at least...
[01:08] <Sevenhill> bye everyone
[02:17] <insta> y'all have thoughts on using the netbook remix as an HTPC OS?
[02:40] <yoasif> is anyone here having problems with miro not starting?
[02:55] <yoasif> anyone around? :)
[04:34] <dougmmms> so i updated 9.04 to 9.10.  the intel graphics driver is installed, but it's not showing up in xorg.conf
[04:35] <dougmmms> neither is my wireless driver in the hardware drivers app
[04:35] <dougmmms> obviously the intel gpu has worked in ubuntu for a long time, but the wireless driver has by default since 8.10
[04:35] <dougmmms> if not before
[04:35] <dougmmms> dell inspiron 1525 (broadcom wireless)
[04:36] <dougmmms> i'm not complaining, just curious.  i don't see anything on the forums, yet, and i'm new to testing early alphas
[04:42] <dougmmms> i installed and ran xdebconfigurator
[04:43] <dougmmms> but xorg.conf remained unchanged despite it recognizing my gpu
[04:44] <dougmmms> i might try using the alternate cd tomorrow
[04:46] <DanaG> argh,  my cups is still broken.
[04:46] <DanaG> Sure, it prints... but the web interface is broken.
[04:47] <DanaG> Could somebody please check if there are an 'lp' and a 'cups' or 'cupsys' in /etc/group and /etc/passwd?
[04:47] <DanaG> ... and tell me which name exists in which place?
[04:54] <DanaG> ANYONE?
[04:54] <DanaG> oh wait, this is +1
[04:54] <DanaG> not as busy as non-+1
[04:56] <DanaG> =þ
[09:05] <Volkodav> what is the command for xfce-menu ?
[09:39] <zniavre> hello / bonjour
[09:40] <zniavre> is it the good place to talk about kernel/ppa's ?
[11:34] <zniavre> re-hello / bonjour
[11:35] <zniavre> where should i speak about kernel/ppa's 2.6.30rc5 ?
[11:46] <acicula> how do you mean speak?
[11:52] <zniavre> acicula,  about building 173.14.18 nvidia driver module with this (testing) kernel on jaunty
[12:11]  * Blues-Man goos blues bye
[12:27] <acicula> seems an older nvidia driver?
[12:51] <zniavre> they are now kind of "legacy" driver for fx serie 5xxx
[14:05] <acicula> zniavre: and your problem is a compile error or a runtime issue?
[14:06] <acicula> zniavre: mind you nvidia drivers are released against a particular range of kernels, if you are having issues, the first thing to check is if it's even compatible with a .30 series kernel?
[14:10] <arand> The -180.44-0ubu2 nvidia drivers, on a M 8600GT with .30-5 seems to work fine.
[14:20] <BluesKaj> Howdy Folks
[14:25] <BluesKaj> coffee! coffee! coffee! :)
[14:46] <acicula> stimulates my brain
[14:53] <BluesKaj> acicula, exactly :)
[14:55] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: did you get your wifi working btw
[14:57] <BluesKaj> yup, Sevenhills heped me , he realized there is bug in the new svn network manager widget so he supplied a source for installing the old one , and it worked right from the get go.
[14:57] <BluesKaj> it's on launchpad
[14:58] <eagles0513875> the plasma widget
[14:58] <eagles0513875> O_O
[14:58] <BluesKaj> yup
[14:58] <eagles0513875> interesting
[14:58] <eagles0513875> the one in jaunty worked on wifi but
[14:58] <eagles0513875> no static ips
[14:58] <eagles0513875> the current one works with both static and dynamic
[14:59] <BluesKaj> well, I stuck with the windows driver running in ndiswrapper , wasn't in the mood for fighting with the half-baked linux rt2870 driver
[15:00] <eagles0513875> hehehe reminds me of hte hellish times in edgy with broadcom drivers
[15:01] <eagles0513875> i found a reverse engineered driver and im happy cuz it made it into feisty repos :)
[15:01] <BluesKaj> yeah, remembe every 3rf or 4th question was about those broadcoms, which were very popular wifi cards
[15:03] <eagles0513875> lol
[15:03] <eagles0513875> they still are
[15:04] <eagles0513875> my tablet which is over 1 yr old
[15:04] <eagles0513875> uses a newer revision then my older compaq
[15:04] <eagles0513875> same card but 2nd rev of that card
[15:04] <eagles0513875> brb need to reboot to get onto static ip then setup shoutcast then head in my room to dj the day away
[15:05] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: ati's were bad back then as well
[15:06] <eagles0513875> hey thiebaude
[15:06] <eagles0513875> brb
[15:07] <thiebaude> hi eagles0513875, wassup
[15:07] <eagles0513875> !)£(*%&
[15:07] <eagles0513875> something keeps cancelling me logouts
[15:07] <eagles0513875> something inside karmic
[15:07] <eagles0513875> same issue in jaunty
[15:07] <eagles0513875> cancels logouts and reboots
[15:08] <thiebaude> i haven't had problems with 9.10 yet
[15:08] <eagles0513875> this on a clean install of jaunty upgraded to karmic
[15:09] <thiebaude> that dont sound good
[15:09] <thiebaude> maybe there is a bug on it
[15:09] <eagles0513875> bug on what
[15:09] <eagles0513875> shutdown script
[15:09] <eagles0513875> restart script
[15:09] <thiebaude> yep
[15:09] <eagles0513875> shutdown doesnt do it
[15:09] <eagles0513875> bah ill have to look
[15:09] <eagles0513875> thing is i dont know anything bout programming
[15:09] <thiebaude> i dont either
[15:09] <eagles0513875> if you can help me thiebaude ill be willing to give it a stab
[15:10] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: you have any idea
[15:10] <eagles0513875> are there any logs of logins logouts restarts etc
[15:11] <thiebaude> eagles0513875: would you look into some boot file
[15:11] <eagles0513875> whatcha mean
[15:12] <eagles0513875> i was gonna look at the appropriate init scripts
[15:12] <thiebaude> oh, ok
[15:12] <eagles0513875> that has to be where the issue lies
[15:13] <eagles0513875> let me reboot if i can
[15:15] <eagles0513875> blarg
[15:16] <eagles0513875> thiebaude: :(
[15:16] <thiebaude> hi
[15:16] <thiebaude> did it work
[15:16] <eagles0513875> cant logout
[15:17] <eagles0513875> seems like only thing that might not be affected is shutdown
[15:17] <eagles0513875> let me give that a try
[15:18] <eagles0513875> i can also bypass it though with using init commands on command line i think but that isnt good
[15:18] <eagles0513875> l;et me try that
[15:23] <eagles0513875> blarg
[15:23] <eagles0513875> seems like im still on dynamic ip
[15:26] <robin0800> BluesKaj: Just posted comment on plasma network manager bug still not working here
[15:27] <eagles0513875> ya i have been helping dev and upstream with improving it
[15:27] <eagles0513875> currently seems to not like using static ips on a preset connection you have to recreate and reboot
[15:28] <eagles0513875> was gonna install shoutcast on here but i will keep thiss machine for testing
[15:42] <eagles0513875> mission control i think we got some borked reboot and logout and shutdown scripts or improperly configured ones
[15:49] <eagles0513875> !paste
[16:15] <BluesKaj> robin0800, sudo apt-get remove plasma-widget-network*...this removes the broken network mangaer , it has to be removed before installing the one that works. Then , sudo dpkg -i plasma-widget-networkmanagement_0.1~svn951801-1_i386.deb
[16:15] <BluesKaj> robin0800,  then reboot
[16:19] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875, shoutcast server?
[16:19] <eagles0513875> ya
[16:19] <eagles0513875> linux equivalent = icecast
[16:19] <eagles0513875> !icecast
[16:19] <eagles0513875> !info icecast
[16:20] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875, why ?
[16:20] <BluesKaj> are you a budding DJ ? :)
[16:20] <eagles0513875> yes i am
[16:20] <genii> !info blackice
[16:20] <genii> Hm
[16:21] <longcat> Anybody here have trouble with scheduling while atomic?
[16:25] <longcat> Hmm it seems that /var/log/messages doesnt say anything about scheduling while atomic but has all of the relevant output related to it
[16:42] <longcat> http://pastebin.com/m5b84bf15
[17:47] <wirechief> BluesKaj: got wifi now ? do you have link to the bug you had to refer to ?
[17:50] <maxb> Hmm, I have a really weird failure mode here. I have four blkid processes spinning at 100% CPU
[17:50] <maxb> This is likely has something to do why my raid didn't autoassemble
[17:50] <longcat> Running 30-5?
[17:51] <maxb> huh?
[17:51] <longcat> It's karmic's kernel of the week
[17:51] <maxb> oh, yes, 2.6.30-5
[17:51] <longcat> Any scheduling while atomic messages?
[17:52] <maxb> In dmesg? No.
[17:53] <BluesKaj> wirechief, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-widget-network-manager/+bug/378145
[17:55] <BluesKaj> robin0800, my wifi is working with the above fix
[17:58] <wirechief> BluesKaj:  ok thanks.
[17:59] <BluesKaj> longcat, whatis while atomic ?
[18:00]  * longcat shrugs...  I dont know
[18:00] <longcat> google "scheduling while atomic"
[18:00] <longcat> I guess it means "Scheduling when I shouldnt be scheduling"
[18:02] <BluesKaj> longcat, yeah, greek to me even on google
[18:04] <longcat> It's basically a bug in tthe code
[18:04] <longcat> I think
[18:05] <robin0800> BluesKaj: Do you mean the Roll Back?
[18:05] <BluesKaj> yes
[18:07] <robin0800> BluesKaj: Well the comment above mine asked if it was now fixed after todays updates and I have tested abd replied no
[18:08] <BluesKaj> the rollback didn't work on your setup , robin0800 ?
[18:11] <BluesKaj> I wasn't aware there was an update to plasma-widget-networkmanagement , if there was it didn't break the wifi here
[18:11] <BluesKaj> of course I haven't rebooted yet
[18:13] <BluesKaj> brb
[18:33] <BUGabundo> good afternoon
[18:33] <BUGabundo> tasse bibo por ca?
[18:34] <eagles0513875> hey BUGabundo
[18:34] <charlie-tca> Good Afternoon, BUGabundo
[18:42] <robin0800> BluesKaj: Yes the rollback still works its the ugrade program that still dosn't work
[18:42] <yoasif> hello
[18:43] <BUGabundo> hey charlie-tca eagles0513875
[18:43] <yoasif> BUGabundo: any tips on troubleshooting audio bugs?
[18:43]  * BUGabundo seems to be experiencing trouble with #s languages....
[18:44] <BUGabundo> yoasif: only that u better talk to dtchen on #ubuntu-audio-help if he is around
[18:44] <BUGabundo> i only know the basics
[18:44] <BUGabundo> check alsamixer, pulseaudio -k
[18:44] <BUGabundo> etc
[18:44] <BUGabundo> but mine is dead too
[18:45] <BUGabundo> its like 2-3% of the volume on PAVUControl
[18:51] <BluesKaj> robin0800, I wonder how much testing some of these updates are getting , or are they just being thrown onto the servers and letting users like us report back when there are bugs.
[18:52] <BUGabundo> BluesKaj: seb128 told yesterday, that most devs arent even paying attention so soon on the cycle
[18:52] <BUGabundo> and only after UDS with 2nd sync
[18:53] <BUGabundo> they will start closing bugs and act on new ones
[18:53] <BUGabundo> thats a waste of time to file bugs so soon
[18:53] <BUGabundo> but this is seb128 opinion
[18:53] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: hey
[18:53] <kklimonda> hej BUGabundo, hey rest of gals and guys
[19:01] <BUGabundo> ui
[19:23] <eagles0513875> anyone having issues with sound :(
[19:23] <eagles0513875> i have just hooked up me 5.1 surround sound speakers and
[19:40] <setuid> Why is tor not in any of the repos?
[19:41] <charlie-tca> !info tor
[19:41] <charlie-tca> !tor
[19:42] <setuid> it's not in karmic, jaunty, hardy or dapper
[19:43] <setuid> Found something on the Tor wiki, trying that now
[19:44] <setuid> got it
[21:13] <yofel_> ls
[21:13] <yofel_> uuups... wrong app ^^
[22:26]  * BUGabundo irs writing a very long email about HandsOn Linux...
[23:57] <BUGabundo> is it just me or did KDEPIM when nuts with latest update?