| arand | hmm, true... ie is a nice unusual combo, well decisive moment was when I heard someone try to pronounce ienorand :) | 00:01 |
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| BUGabundo | hehehe | 00:02 |
| robin0800 | Sevenhill: On kubuntu the log says wpasupplicant cannot connect to the driver but it works ok in ubuntu so bug is probably in kde | 00:04 |
| Sevenhill | robin0800: the bug is about plasma-widget-networkmanager | 00:05 |
| Sevenhill | robin0800: which means svn 951801 working but svn 966653 is not ( versions of that widget ) | 00:05 |
| robin0800 | Sevenhill: Has bug been raised? | 00:06 |
| Sevenhill | you mean reported ? | 00:06 |
| robin0800 | Sevenhill: Yes | 00:06 |
| Sevenhill | i don't report but maybe other 9.10 users did it | 00:07 |
| Sevenhill | robin0800: i mean i don't check any bug report exists or not | 00:08 |
| BluesKaj | Sevenhill, do you mean there's hope for my belkin USB wifi yet ? It worked ok in jaunty (ndiswrapper/windows rt2870 driver) but not here on Karmic. | 00:08 |
| Sevenhill | BluesKaj: sure | 00:08 |
| Sevenhill | BluesKaj: just install 951801 version of plasma-widget-networkmanager | 00:09 |
| Sevenhill | BluesKaj: try this : http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/p/plasma-widget-networkmanagement/plasma-widget-networkmanagement_0.1~svn951801-1_i386.deb | 00:09 |
| Sevenhill | BluesKaj: but first remove old package | 00:09 |
| BluesKaj | svn eh, never had much luck with svn apps | 00:10 |
| Sevenhill | BluesKaj: all of them svn :) | 00:10 |
| Sevenhill | BluesKaj: just remove old package then install this one | 00:10 |
| Sevenhill | then restart | 00:10 |
| Sevenhill | it will work probably | 00:11 |
| BluesKaj | it asks for packagekit to open it | 00:11 |
| Sevenhill | BluesKaj: just save it to disk | 00:11 |
| BluesKaj | yeah | 00:11 |
| Sevenhill | the you will install it with sudo dpkg -i blablabla.deb | 00:11 |
| BluesKaj | right | 00:12 |
| Sevenhill | robin0800: i will compile kde from svn tomorrow then i will check with newer version of that widget ( from svn trunk ) | 00:12 |
| BluesKaj | Sevenhill, will dpkg -r svn 966653 work? | 00:13 |
| BluesKaj | to remove the old widget | 00:14 |
| Sevenhill | i don't try that | 00:14 |
| Sevenhill | i just typed : | 00:14 |
| Sevenhill | sudo apt-get remove plasma-widget-network* | 00:14 |
| BUGabundo | sudo apt-get remove *--purge* plasma-widget-network* | 00:15 |
| BluesKaj | ok removing | 00:15 |
| Sevenhill | then i used sudo dpkg -i plasma-widget-networkmanagement_0.1~svn951801-1_i386.deb | 00:16 |
| Sevenhill | after that i rebooted system ( i don't know why but killing only X doesn't work ) | 00:16 |
| Sevenhill | BluesKaj: installed olderversion ? | 00:17 |
| BluesKaj | Sevenhill, uninstalled old version first ,yes | 00:19 |
| Sevenhill | BluesKaj: then now install that file | 00:19 |
| BluesKaj | old meaning 966653 | 00:19 |
| Sevenhill | sudo dpkg -i plasma-widget-networkmanagement_0.1~svn951801-1_i386.deb | 00:19 |
| BluesKaj | yes , done | 00:20 |
| Sevenhill | now reboot | 00:20 |
| * BUGabundo no sudo rm -rf / | 00:20 | |
| BluesKaj | rebooting | 00:21 |
| Sevenhill | BUGabundo: i have mounted my / as /home and formatted /home thinking that was my old / | 00:21 |
| BUGabundo | opps | 00:21 |
| Sevenhill | yes i said exacly same thing after seeing grub menu | 00:22 |
| Sevenhill | and the content of my new /home | 00:22 |
| BluesKaj | wifi is connected :) | 00:27 |
| Sevenhill | :) BluesKaj | 00:27 |
| BluesKaj | thx Sevenhill :) | 00:27 |
| Sevenhill | No problem | 00:27 |
| Sevenhill | that was a confirmation of that BUG | 00:28 |
| BUGabundo | me what ?!?! | 00:28 |
| BluesKaj | now I can move the cat 5 cable back to the bedroom pc | 00:28 |
| robin0800 | Thanks all it now works again Also need to fix mobile broardband not connecting also plasma networkmanager fault? | 00:28 |
| Sevenhill | robin0800: what you mean ? | 00:29 |
| Sevenhill | BluesKaj: i also have cat 5 | 00:29 |
| Sevenhill | BluesKaj: opps -> i also haTe cat5 | 00:30 |
| robin0800 | Sevenhill: Got a mobile broardband dongle it is seen and can be configured but it never connects works in ubuntu and kppp gnome-ppp etc | 00:32 |
| BluesKaj | Router is in the TV room , where we originally set up our first computer 10 yrs ago and the phone/dsl line is closes to the ma bell box there , so everything just sort of expanded from there as we acquired more pcs over the yrs | 00:32 |
| Sevenhill | robin0800: is it using at commands ? | 00:33 |
| Sevenhill | robin0800: probably the phone company changed its gprs connection phone number | 00:33 |
| robin0800 | Sevenhill: Yes | 00:34 |
| Sevenhill | robin0800: i had a similar tool it was using *99# | 00:35 |
| Sevenhill | then it starts to not to work | 00:35 |
| Sevenhill | then i found that company changed its phone number to *99,01# | 00:35 |
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| Sevenhill | you have to call the gprs company which you are getting gprs service | 00:36 |
| robin0800 | Sevenhill: Gnome has a wizard that is easy use, phone number is *99# You input that number it can't be wrong? | 00:37 |
| Sevenhill | no i mean the company changed its connection number | 00:38 |
| Sevenhill | its number wasn't *99# | 00:38 |
| Sevenhill | but i forget its new number | 00:38 |
| robin0800 | Sevenhill: No but embeded at commands could be wrong? | 00:39 |
| robin0800 | Sevenhill: It is still *99# and works with other programs as this | 00:40 |
| Sevenhill | then it is a diffrent problem than i have faced | 00:40 |
| robin0800 | SeThis bug? appeard in 4.2 Knetworkmanager the old one also works | 00:42 |
| robin0800 | Sevenhill: This bug? appeard in 4.2 Knetworkmanager the old one also works | 00:44 |
| Sevenhill | robin0800: hmm | 00:44 |
| Sevenhill | BluesKaj: please confirm this : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-widget-network-manager/+bug/378145 | 00:45 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 378145 in plasma-widget-network-manager "plasma widget networkmanager couldn't connect wpa" [Undecided,New] | 00:45 |
| robin0800 | Sevenhill: bug 378145 that is exactly what I did | 00:47 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 378145 in plasma-widget-network-manager "plasma widget networkmanager couldn't connect wpa" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/378145 | 00:47 |
| Sevenhill | robin0800: :) because i open that bug | 00:48 |
| Sevenhill | is that solution works for you ? | 00:48 |
| Sevenhill | if yes wrote there this solution fixed my wpa connection error , or something like that :) | 00:49 |
| Sevenhill | BluesKaj: are you there ? | 00:49 |
| BluesKaj | yup, Sevenhill , done ..altho I somehow mispelled install :) | 00:51 |
| BluesKaj | thx again Sevenhill , gonna watch some TV with wifey foe a bit | 00:52 |
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| Sevenhill | BluesKaj: click that link " This bug affects me too" | 00:53 |
| Sevenhill | Blueskaj-gone: BluesKaj: click that link " This bug affects me too" | 00:53 |
| arand | By the way does anyone have access to the yelp files on gnome, theme customization, window selector etc.? They seem to be horribly innacurate from what I've heard (unfortunately, a bug stops me from accessing it on kk) | 00:53 |
| BUGabundo1 | bed time. its 1am! kiss kiss and free hugs! | 00:56 |
| thiebaude | until later | 00:56 |
| robin0800 | BUGabundo: You in uk ? | 01:04 |
| arand | gmt+dst at least... | 01:07 |
| Sevenhill | bye everyone | 01:08 |
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| === Blueskaj-gone is now known as BluesKaj | ||
| insta | y'all have thoughts on using the netbook remix as an HTPC OS? | 02:17 |
| yoasif | is anyone here having problems with miro not starting? | 02:40 |
| yoasif | anyone around? :) | 02:55 |
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| dougmmms | so i updated 9.04 to 9.10. the intel graphics driver is installed, but it's not showing up in xorg.conf | 04:34 |
| dougmmms | neither is my wireless driver in the hardware drivers app | 04:35 |
| dougmmms | obviously the intel gpu has worked in ubuntu for a long time, but the wireless driver has by default since 8.10 | 04:35 |
| dougmmms | if not before | 04:35 |
| dougmmms | dell inspiron 1525 (broadcom wireless) | 04:35 |
| dougmmms | i'm not complaining, just curious. i don't see anything on the forums, yet, and i'm new to testing early alphas | 04:36 |
| dougmmms | i installed and ran xdebconfigurator | 04:42 |
| dougmmms | but xorg.conf remained unchanged despite it recognizing my gpu | 04:43 |
| dougmmms | i might try using the alternate cd tomorrow | 04:44 |
| DanaG | argh, my cups is still broken. | 04:46 |
| DanaG | Sure, it prints... but the web interface is broken. | 04:46 |
| DanaG | Could somebody please check if there are an 'lp' and a 'cups' or 'cupsys' in /etc/group and /etc/passwd? | 04:47 |
| DanaG | ... and tell me which name exists in which place? | 04:47 |
| DanaG | ANYONE? | 04:54 |
| DanaG | oh wait, this is +1 | 04:54 |
| DanaG | not as busy as non-+1 | 04:54 |
| DanaG | =þ | 04:56 |
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| Volkodav | what is the command for xfce-menu ? | 09:05 |
| zniavre | hello / bonjour | 09:39 |
| zniavre | is it the good place to talk about kernel/ppa's ? | 09:40 |
| zniavre | re-hello / bonjour | 11:34 |
| zniavre | where should i speak about kernel/ppa's 2.6.30rc5 ? | 11:35 |
| acicula | how do you mean speak? | 11:46 |
| zniavre | acicula, about building 173.14.18 nvidia driver module with this (testing) kernel on jaunty | 11:52 |
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| * Blues-Man goos blues bye | 12:11 | |
| acicula | seems an older nvidia driver? | 12:27 |
| zniavre | they are now kind of "legacy" driver for fx serie 5xxx | 12:51 |
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| === TheImp is now known as TheInfinity | ||
| acicula | zniavre: and your problem is a compile error or a runtime issue? | 14:05 |
| acicula | zniavre: mind you nvidia drivers are released against a particular range of kernels, if you are having issues, the first thing to check is if it's even compatible with a .30 series kernel? | 14:06 |
| arand | The -180.44-0ubu2 nvidia drivers, on a M 8600GT with .30-5 seems to work fine. | 14:10 |
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| BluesKaj | Howdy Folks | 14:20 |
| BluesKaj | coffee! coffee! coffee! :) | 14:25 |
| acicula | stimulates my brain | 14:46 |
| BluesKaj | acicula, exactly :) | 14:53 |
| eagles0513875 | BluesKaj: did you get your wifi working btw | 14:55 |
| BluesKaj | yup, Sevenhills heped me , he realized there is bug in the new svn network manager widget so he supplied a source for installing the old one , and it worked right from the get go. | 14:57 |
| BluesKaj | it's on launchpad | 14:57 |
| eagles0513875 | the plasma widget | 14:58 |
| eagles0513875 | O_O | 14:58 |
| BluesKaj | yup | 14:58 |
| eagles0513875 | interesting | 14:58 |
| eagles0513875 | the one in jaunty worked on wifi but | 14:58 |
| eagles0513875 | no static ips | 14:58 |
| eagles0513875 | the current one works with both static and dynamic | 14:58 |
| BluesKaj | well, I stuck with the windows driver running in ndiswrapper , wasn't in the mood for fighting with the half-baked linux rt2870 driver | 14:59 |
| eagles0513875 | hehehe reminds me of hte hellish times in edgy with broadcom drivers | 15:00 |
| eagles0513875 | i found a reverse engineered driver and im happy cuz it made it into feisty repos :) | 15:01 |
| BluesKaj | yeah, remembe every 3rf or 4th question was about those broadcoms, which were very popular wifi cards | 15:01 |
| eagles0513875 | lol | 15:03 |
| eagles0513875 | they still are | 15:03 |
| eagles0513875 | my tablet which is over 1 yr old | 15:04 |
| eagles0513875 | uses a newer revision then my older compaq | 15:04 |
| eagles0513875 | same card but 2nd rev of that card | 15:04 |
| eagles0513875 | brb need to reboot to get onto static ip then setup shoutcast then head in my room to dj the day away | 15:04 |
| eagles0513875 | BluesKaj: ati's were bad back then as well | 15:05 |
| eagles0513875 | hey thiebaude | 15:06 |
| eagles0513875 | brb | 15:06 |
| thiebaude | hi eagles0513875, wassup | 15:07 |
| eagles0513875 | !)£(*%& | 15:07 |
| eagles0513875 | something keeps cancelling me logouts | 15:07 |
| eagles0513875 | something inside karmic | 15:07 |
| eagles0513875 | same issue in jaunty | 15:07 |
| eagles0513875 | cancels logouts and reboots | 15:07 |
| thiebaude | i haven't had problems with 9.10 yet | 15:08 |
| eagles0513875 | this on a clean install of jaunty upgraded to karmic | 15:08 |
| thiebaude | that dont sound good | 15:09 |
| thiebaude | maybe there is a bug on it | 15:09 |
| eagles0513875 | bug on what | 15:09 |
| eagles0513875 | shutdown script | 15:09 |
| eagles0513875 | restart script | 15:09 |
| thiebaude | yep | 15:09 |
| eagles0513875 | shutdown doesnt do it | 15:09 |
| eagles0513875 | bah ill have to look | 15:09 |
| eagles0513875 | thing is i dont know anything bout programming | 15:09 |
| thiebaude | i dont either | 15:09 |
| eagles0513875 | if you can help me thiebaude ill be willing to give it a stab | 15:09 |
| eagles0513875 | BluesKaj: you have any idea | 15:10 |
| eagles0513875 | are there any logs of logins logouts restarts etc | 15:10 |
| thiebaude | eagles0513875: would you look into some boot file | 15:11 |
| eagles0513875 | whatcha mean | 15:11 |
| eagles0513875 | i was gonna look at the appropriate init scripts | 15:12 |
| thiebaude | oh, ok | 15:12 |
| eagles0513875 | that has to be where the issue lies | 15:12 |
| eagles0513875 | let me reboot if i can | 15:13 |
| eagles0513875 | blarg | 15:15 |
| eagles0513875 | thiebaude: :( | 15:16 |
| thiebaude | hi | 15:16 |
| thiebaude | did it work | 15:16 |
| eagles0513875 | cant logout | 15:16 |
| eagles0513875 | seems like only thing that might not be affected is shutdown | 15:17 |
| eagles0513875 | let me give that a try | 15:17 |
| eagles0513875 | i can also bypass it though with using init commands on command line i think but that isnt good | 15:18 |
| eagles0513875 | l;et me try that | 15:18 |
| eagles0513875 | blarg | 15:23 |
| eagles0513875 | seems like im still on dynamic ip | 15:23 |
| robin0800 | BluesKaj: Just posted comment on plasma network manager bug still not working here | 15:26 |
| eagles0513875 | ya i have been helping dev and upstream with improving it | 15:27 |
| eagles0513875 | currently seems to not like using static ips on a preset connection you have to recreate and reboot | 15:27 |
| eagles0513875 | was gonna install shoutcast on here but i will keep thiss machine for testing | 15:28 |
| eagles0513875 | mission control i think we got some borked reboot and logout and shutdown scripts or improperly configured ones | 15:42 |
| eagles0513875 | !paste | 15:49 |
| ubottu | pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) | 15:49 |
| BluesKaj | robin0800, sudo apt-get remove plasma-widget-network*...this removes the broken network mangaer , it has to be removed before installing the one that works. Then , sudo dpkg -i plasma-widget-networkmanagement_0.1~svn951801-1_i386.deb | 16:15 |
| BluesKaj | robin0800, then reboot | 16:15 |
| BluesKaj | eagles0513875, shoutcast server? | 16:19 |
| eagles0513875 | ya | 16:19 |
| eagles0513875 | linux equivalent = icecast | 16:19 |
| eagles0513875 | !icecast | 16:19 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about icecast | 16:19 |
| eagles0513875 | !info icecast | 16:19 |
| ubottu | Package icecast does not exist in karmic | 16:19 |
| BluesKaj | eagles0513875, why ? | 16:20 |
| BluesKaj | are you a budding DJ ? :) | 16:20 |
| eagles0513875 | yes i am | 16:20 |
| genii | !info blackice | 16:20 |
| ubottu | Package blackice does not exist in karmic | 16:20 |
| genii | Hm | 16:20 |
| longcat | Anybody here have trouble with scheduling while atomic? | 16:21 |
| longcat | Hmm it seems that /var/log/messages doesnt say anything about scheduling while atomic but has all of the relevant output related to it | 16:25 |
| longcat | http://pastebin.com/m5b84bf15 | 16:42 |
| wirechief | BluesKaj: got wifi now ? do you have link to the bug you had to refer to ? | 17:47 |
| maxb | Hmm, I have a really weird failure mode here. I have four blkid processes spinning at 100% CPU | 17:50 |
| maxb | This is likely has something to do why my raid didn't autoassemble | 17:50 |
| longcat | Running 30-5? | 17:50 |
| maxb | huh? | 17:51 |
| longcat | It's karmic's kernel of the week | 17:51 |
| maxb | oh, yes, 2.6.30-5 | 17:51 |
| longcat | Any scheduling while atomic messages? | 17:51 |
| maxb | In dmesg? No. | 17:52 |
| BluesKaj | wirechief, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-widget-network-manager/+bug/378145 | 17:53 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 378145 in plasma-widget-network-manager "plasma widget networkmanager couldn't connect wpa" [Undecided,New] | 17:53 |
| BluesKaj | robin0800, my wifi is working with the above fix | 17:55 |
| wirechief | BluesKaj: ok thanks. | 17:58 |
| BluesKaj | longcat, whatis while atomic ? | 17:59 |
| * longcat shrugs... I dont know | 18:00 | |
| longcat | google "scheduling while atomic" | 18:00 |
| longcat | I guess it means "Scheduling when I shouldnt be scheduling" | 18:00 |
| BluesKaj | longcat, yeah, greek to me even on google | 18:02 |
| longcat | It's basically a bug in tthe code | 18:04 |
| longcat | I think | 18:04 |
| robin0800 | BluesKaj: Do you mean the Roll Back? | 18:05 |
| BluesKaj | yes | 18:05 |
| robin0800 | BluesKaj: Well the comment above mine asked if it was now fixed after todays updates and I have tested abd replied no | 18:07 |
| BluesKaj | the rollback didn't work on your setup , robin0800 ? | 18:08 |
| BluesKaj | I wasn't aware there was an update to plasma-widget-networkmanagement , if there was it didn't break the wifi here | 18:11 |
| BluesKaj | of course I haven't rebooted yet | 18:11 |
| BluesKaj | brb | 18:13 |
| BUGabundo | good afternoon | 18:33 |
| BUGabundo | tasse bibo por ca? | 18:33 |
| eagles0513875 | hey BUGabundo | 18:34 |
| charlie-tca | Good Afternoon, BUGabundo | 18:34 |
| robin0800 | BluesKaj: Yes the rollback still works its the ugrade program that still dosn't work | 18:42 |
| yoasif | hello | 18:42 |
| BUGabundo | hey charlie-tca eagles0513875 | 18:43 |
| yoasif | BUGabundo: any tips on troubleshooting audio bugs? | 18:43 |
| * BUGabundo seems to be experiencing trouble with #s languages.... | 18:43 | |
| BUGabundo | yoasif: only that u better talk to dtchen on #ubuntu-audio-help if he is around | 18:44 |
| BUGabundo | i only know the basics | 18:44 |
| BUGabundo | check alsamixer, pulseaudio -k | 18:44 |
| BUGabundo | etc | 18:44 |
| BUGabundo | but mine is dead too | 18:44 |
| BUGabundo | its like 2-3% of the volume on PAVUControl | 18:45 |
| BluesKaj | robin0800, I wonder how much testing some of these updates are getting , or are they just being thrown onto the servers and letting users like us report back when there are bugs. | 18:51 |
| BUGabundo | BluesKaj: seb128 told yesterday, that most devs arent even paying attention so soon on the cycle | 18:52 |
| BUGabundo | and only after UDS with 2nd sync | 18:52 |
| BUGabundo | they will start closing bugs and act on new ones | 18:53 |
| BUGabundo | thats a waste of time to file bugs so soon | 18:53 |
| BUGabundo | but this is seb128 opinion | 18:53 |
| BUGabundo | kklimonda: hey | 18:53 |
| kklimonda | hej BUGabundo, hey rest of gals and guys | 18:53 |
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| BUGabundo | ui | 19:01 |
| eagles0513875 | anyone having issues with sound :( | 19:23 |
| eagles0513875 | i have just hooked up me 5.1 surround sound speakers and | 19:23 |
| setuid | Why is tor not in any of the repos? | 19:40 |
| charlie-tca | !info tor | 19:41 |
| ubottu | Package tor does not exist in karmic | 19:41 |
| charlie-tca | !tor | 19:41 |
| ubottu | Many Ubuntu IRC channels prohibit access from !proxies such as TOR due to a high level of abuse. You can however obtain a hostmask cloak: see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks | 19:41 |
| setuid | it's not in karmic, jaunty, hardy or dapper | 19:42 |
| setuid | Found something on the Tor wiki, trying that now | 19:43 |
| setuid | got it | 19:44 |
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| yofel_ | ls | 21:13 |
| yofel_ | uuups... wrong app ^^ | 21:13 |
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| * BUGabundo irs writing a very long email about HandsOn Linux... | 22:26 | |
| BUGabundo | is it just me or did KDEPIM when nuts with latest update? | 23:57 |
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