[00:01] hmm, true... ie is a nice unusual combo, well decisive moment was when I heard someone try to pronounce ienorand :) [00:02] hehehe [00:04] Sevenhill: On kubuntu the log says wpasupplicant cannot connect to the driver but it works ok in ubuntu so bug is probably in kde [00:05] robin0800: the bug is about plasma-widget-networkmanager [00:05] robin0800: which means svn 951801 working but svn 966653 is not ( versions of that widget ) [00:06] Sevenhill: Has bug been raised? [00:06] you mean reported ? [00:06] Sevenhill: Yes [00:07] i don't report but maybe other 9.10 users did it [00:08] robin0800: i mean i don't check any bug report exists or not [00:08] Sevenhill, do you mean there's hope for my belkin USB wifi yet ? It worked ok in jaunty (ndiswrapper/windows rt2870 driver) but not here on Karmic. [00:08] BluesKaj: sure [00:09] BluesKaj: just install 951801 version of plasma-widget-networkmanager [00:09] BluesKaj: try this : http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/p/plasma-widget-networkmanagement/plasma-widget-networkmanagement_0.1~svn951801-1_i386.deb [00:09] BluesKaj: but first remove old package [00:10] svn eh, never had much luck with svn apps [00:10] BluesKaj: all of them svn :) [00:10] BluesKaj: just remove old package then install this one [00:10] then restart [00:11] it will work probably [00:11] it asks for packagekit to open it [00:11] BluesKaj: just save it to disk [00:11] yeah [00:11] the you will install it with sudo dpkg -i blablabla.deb [00:12] right [00:12] robin0800: i will compile kde from svn tomorrow then i will check with newer version of that widget ( from svn trunk ) [00:13] Sevenhill, will dpkg -r svn 966653 work? [00:14] to remove the old widget [00:14] i don't try that [00:14] i just typed : [00:14] sudo apt-get remove plasma-widget-network* [00:15] sudo apt-get remove *--purge* plasma-widget-network* [00:15] ok removing [00:16] then i used sudo dpkg -i plasma-widget-networkmanagement_0.1~svn951801-1_i386.deb [00:16] after that i rebooted system ( i don't know why but killing only X doesn't work ) [00:17] BluesKaj: installed olderversion ? [00:19] Sevenhill, uninstalled old version first ,yes [00:19] BluesKaj: then now install that file [00:19] old meaning 966653 [00:19] sudo dpkg -i plasma-widget-networkmanagement_0.1~svn951801-1_i386.deb [00:20] yes , done [00:20] now reboot [00:20] * BUGabundo no sudo rm -rf / [00:21] rebooting [00:21] BUGabundo: i have mounted my / as /home and formatted /home thinking that was my old / [00:21] opps [00:22] yes i said exacly same thing after seeing grub menu [00:22] and the content of my new /home [00:27] wifi is connected :) [00:27] :) BluesKaj [00:27] thx Sevenhill :) [00:27] No problem [00:28] that was a confirmation of that BUG [00:28] me what ?!?! [00:28] now I can move the cat 5 cable back to the bedroom pc [00:28] Thanks all it now works again Also need to fix mobile broardband not connecting also plasma networkmanager fault? [00:29] robin0800: what you mean ? [00:29] BluesKaj: i also have cat 5 [00:30] BluesKaj: opps -> i also haTe cat5 [00:32] Sevenhill: Got a mobile broardband dongle it is seen and can be configured but it never connects works in ubuntu and kppp gnome-ppp etc [00:32] Router is in the TV room , where we originally set up our first computer 10 yrs ago and the phone/dsl line is closes to the ma bell box there , so everything just sort of expanded from there as we acquired more pcs over the yrs [00:33] robin0800: is it using at commands ? [00:33] robin0800: probably the phone company changed its gprs connection phone number [00:34] Sevenhill: Yes [00:35] robin0800: i had a similar tool it was using *99# [00:35] then it starts to not to work [00:35] then i found that company changed its phone number to *99,01# === ripps_ is now known as ripps [00:36] you have to call the gprs company which you are getting gprs service [00:37] Sevenhill: Gnome has a wizard that is easy use, phone number is *99# You input that number it can't be wrong? [00:38] no i mean the company changed its connection number [00:38] its number wasn't *99# [00:38] but i forget its new number [00:39] Sevenhill: No but embeded at commands could be wrong? [00:40] Sevenhill: It is still *99# and works with other programs as this [00:40] then it is a diffrent problem than i have faced [00:42] SeThis bug? appeard in 4.2 Knetworkmanager the old one also works [00:44] Sevenhill: This bug? appeard in 4.2 Knetworkmanager the old one also works [00:44] robin0800: hmm [00:45] BluesKaj: please confirm this : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-widget-network-manager/+bug/378145 [00:45] Ubuntu bug 378145 in plasma-widget-network-manager "plasma widget networkmanager couldn't connect wpa" [Undecided,New] [00:47] Sevenhill: bug 378145 that is exactly what I did [00:47] Launchpad bug 378145 in plasma-widget-network-manager "plasma widget networkmanager couldn't connect wpa" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/378145 [00:48] robin0800: :) because i open that bug [00:48] is that solution works for you ? [00:49] if yes wrote there this solution fixed my wpa connection error , or something like that :) [00:49] BluesKaj: are you there ? [00:51] yup, Sevenhill , done ..altho I somehow mispelled install :) [00:52] thx again Sevenhill , gonna watch some TV with wifey foe a bit === BluesKaj is now known as Blueskaj-gone [00:53] BluesKaj: click that link " This bug affects me too" [00:53] Blueskaj-gone: BluesKaj: click that link " This bug affects me too" [00:53] By the way does anyone have access to the yelp files on gnome, theme customization, window selector etc.? They seem to be horribly innacurate from what I've heard (unfortunately, a bug stops me from accessing it on kk) [00:56] bed time. its 1am! kiss kiss and free hugs! [00:56] until later [01:04] BUGabundo: You in uk ? [01:07] gmt+dst at least... [01:08] bye everyone === jeiworth_ is now known as jeiworth === Blueskaj-gone is now known as BluesKaj [02:17] y'all have thoughts on using the netbook remix as an HTPC OS? [02:40] is anyone here having problems with miro not starting? [02:55] anyone around? :) === ripps_ is now known as ripps [04:34] so i updated 9.04 to 9.10. the intel graphics driver is installed, but it's not showing up in xorg.conf [04:35] neither is my wireless driver in the hardware drivers app [04:35] obviously the intel gpu has worked in ubuntu for a long time, but the wireless driver has by default since 8.10 [04:35] if not before [04:35] dell inspiron 1525 (broadcom wireless) [04:36] i'm not complaining, just curious. i don't see anything on the forums, yet, and i'm new to testing early alphas [04:42] i installed and ran xdebconfigurator [04:43] but xorg.conf remained unchanged despite it recognizing my gpu [04:44] i might try using the alternate cd tomorrow [04:46] argh, my cups is still broken. [04:46] Sure, it prints... but the web interface is broken. [04:47] Could somebody please check if there are an 'lp' and a 'cups' or 'cupsys' in /etc/group and /etc/passwd? [04:47] ... and tell me which name exists in which place? [04:54] ANYONE? [04:54] oh wait, this is +1 [04:54] not as busy as non-+1 [04:56] =þ === les_ is now known as les [09:05] what is the command for xfce-menu ? [09:39] hello / bonjour [09:40] is it the good place to talk about kernel/ppa's ? [11:34] re-hello / bonjour [11:35] where should i speak about kernel/ppa's 2.6.30rc5 ? [11:46] how do you mean speak? [11:52] acicula, about building 173.14.18 nvidia driver module with this (testing) kernel on jaunty === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak [12:11] * Blues-Man goos blues bye [12:27] seems an older nvidia driver? [12:51] they are now kind of "legacy" driver for fx serie 5xxx === yofel_ is now known as yofel === TheImp is now known as TheInfinity [14:05] zniavre: and your problem is a compile error or a runtime issue? [14:06] zniavre: mind you nvidia drivers are released against a particular range of kernels, if you are having issues, the first thing to check is if it's even compatible with a .30 series kernel? [14:10] The -180.44-0ubu2 nvidia drivers, on a M 8600GT with .30-5 seems to work fine. === yofel_ is now known as yofel [14:20] Howdy Folks [14:25] coffee! coffee! coffee! :) [14:46] stimulates my brain [14:53] acicula, exactly :) [14:55] BluesKaj: did you get your wifi working btw [14:57] yup, Sevenhills heped me , he realized there is bug in the new svn network manager widget so he supplied a source for installing the old one , and it worked right from the get go. [14:57] it's on launchpad [14:58] the plasma widget [14:58] O_O [14:58] yup [14:58] interesting [14:58] the one in jaunty worked on wifi but [14:58] no static ips [14:58] the current one works with both static and dynamic [14:59] well, I stuck with the windows driver running in ndiswrapper , wasn't in the mood for fighting with the half-baked linux rt2870 driver [15:00] hehehe reminds me of hte hellish times in edgy with broadcom drivers [15:01] i found a reverse engineered driver and im happy cuz it made it into feisty repos :) [15:01] yeah, remembe every 3rf or 4th question was about those broadcoms, which were very popular wifi cards [15:03] lol [15:03] they still are [15:04] my tablet which is over 1 yr old [15:04] uses a newer revision then my older compaq [15:04] same card but 2nd rev of that card [15:04] brb need to reboot to get onto static ip then setup shoutcast then head in my room to dj the day away [15:05] BluesKaj: ati's were bad back then as well [15:06] hey thiebaude [15:06] brb [15:07] hi eagles0513875, wassup [15:07] !)£(*%& [15:07] something keeps cancelling me logouts [15:07] something inside karmic [15:07] same issue in jaunty [15:07] cancels logouts and reboots [15:08] i haven't had problems with 9.10 yet [15:08] this on a clean install of jaunty upgraded to karmic [15:09] that dont sound good [15:09] maybe there is a bug on it [15:09] bug on what [15:09] shutdown script [15:09] restart script [15:09] yep [15:09] shutdown doesnt do it [15:09] bah ill have to look [15:09] thing is i dont know anything bout programming [15:09] i dont either [15:09] if you can help me thiebaude ill be willing to give it a stab [15:10] BluesKaj: you have any idea [15:10] are there any logs of logins logouts restarts etc [15:11] eagles0513875: would you look into some boot file [15:11] whatcha mean [15:12] i was gonna look at the appropriate init scripts [15:12] oh, ok [15:12] that has to be where the issue lies [15:13] let me reboot if i can [15:15] blarg [15:16] thiebaude: :( [15:16] hi [15:16] did it work [15:16] cant logout [15:17] seems like only thing that might not be affected is shutdown [15:17] let me give that a try [15:18] i can also bypass it though with using init commands on command line i think but that isnt good [15:18] l;et me try that [15:23] blarg [15:23] seems like im still on dynamic ip [15:26] BluesKaj: Just posted comment on plasma network manager bug still not working here [15:27] ya i have been helping dev and upstream with improving it [15:27] currently seems to not like using static ips on a preset connection you have to recreate and reboot [15:28] was gonna install shoutcast on here but i will keep thiss machine for testing [15:42] mission control i think we got some borked reboot and logout and shutdown scripts or improperly configured ones [15:49] !paste [15:49] pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) [16:15] robin0800, sudo apt-get remove plasma-widget-network*...this removes the broken network mangaer , it has to be removed before installing the one that works. Then , sudo dpkg -i plasma-widget-networkmanagement_0.1~svn951801-1_i386.deb [16:15] robin0800, then reboot [16:19] eagles0513875, shoutcast server? [16:19] ya [16:19] linux equivalent = icecast [16:19] !icecast [16:19] Sorry, I don't know anything about icecast [16:19] !info icecast [16:19] Package icecast does not exist in karmic [16:20] eagles0513875, why ? [16:20] are you a budding DJ ? :) [16:20] yes i am [16:20] !info blackice [16:20] Package blackice does not exist in karmic [16:20] Hm [16:21] Anybody here have trouble with scheduling while atomic? [16:25] Hmm it seems that /var/log/messages doesnt say anything about scheduling while atomic but has all of the relevant output related to it [16:42] http://pastebin.com/m5b84bf15 [17:47] BluesKaj: got wifi now ? do you have link to the bug you had to refer to ? [17:50] Hmm, I have a really weird failure mode here. I have four blkid processes spinning at 100% CPU [17:50] This is likely has something to do why my raid didn't autoassemble [17:50] Running 30-5? [17:51] huh? [17:51] It's karmic's kernel of the week [17:51] oh, yes, 2.6.30-5 [17:51] Any scheduling while atomic messages? [17:52] In dmesg? No. [17:53] wirechief, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-widget-network-manager/+bug/378145 [17:53] Ubuntu bug 378145 in plasma-widget-network-manager "plasma widget networkmanager couldn't connect wpa" [Undecided,New] [17:55] robin0800, my wifi is working with the above fix [17:58] BluesKaj: ok thanks. [17:59] longcat, whatis while atomic ? [18:00] * longcat shrugs... I dont know [18:00] google "scheduling while atomic" [18:00] I guess it means "Scheduling when I shouldnt be scheduling" [18:02] longcat, yeah, greek to me even on google [18:04] It's basically a bug in tthe code [18:04] I think [18:05] BluesKaj: Do you mean the Roll Back? [18:05] yes [18:07] BluesKaj: Well the comment above mine asked if it was now fixed after todays updates and I have tested abd replied no [18:08] the rollback didn't work on your setup , robin0800 ? [18:11] I wasn't aware there was an update to plasma-widget-networkmanagement , if there was it didn't break the wifi here [18:11] of course I haven't rebooted yet [18:13] brb [18:33] good afternoon [18:33] tasse bibo por ca? [18:34] hey BUGabundo [18:34] Good Afternoon, BUGabundo [18:42] BluesKaj: Yes the rollback still works its the ugrade program that still dosn't work [18:42] hello [18:43] hey charlie-tca eagles0513875 [18:43] BUGabundo: any tips on troubleshooting audio bugs? [18:43] * BUGabundo seems to be experiencing trouble with #s languages.... [18:44] yoasif: only that u better talk to dtchen on #ubuntu-audio-help if he is around [18:44] i only know the basics [18:44] check alsamixer, pulseaudio -k [18:44] etc [18:44] but mine is dead too [18:45] its like 2-3% of the volume on PAVUControl [18:51] robin0800, I wonder how much testing some of these updates are getting , or are they just being thrown onto the servers and letting users like us report back when there are bugs. [18:52] BluesKaj: seb128 told yesterday, that most devs arent even paying attention so soon on the cycle [18:52] and only after UDS with 2nd sync [18:53] they will start closing bugs and act on new ones [18:53] thats a waste of time to file bugs so soon [18:53] but this is seb128 opinion [18:53] kklimonda: hey [18:53] hej BUGabundo, hey rest of gals and guys === lamalex_2 is now known as lamalex [19:01] ui [19:23] anyone having issues with sound :( [19:23] i have just hooked up me 5.1 surround sound speakers and [19:40] Why is tor not in any of the repos? [19:41] !info tor [19:41] Package tor does not exist in karmic [19:41] !tor [19:41] Many Ubuntu IRC channels prohibit access from !proxies such as TOR due to a high level of abuse. You can however obtain a hostmask cloak: see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks [19:42] it's not in karmic, jaunty, hardy or dapper [19:43] Found something on the Tor wiki, trying that now [19:44] got it === erle64- is now known as erle- === pace_t_zulu_ is now known as jhaitas [21:13] ls [21:13] uuups... wrong app ^^ === BUGabundo1 is now known as BUGabundo === ripps_ is now known as ripps === yofel_ is now known as yofel [22:26] * BUGabundo irs writing a very long email about HandsOn Linux... [23:57] is it just me or did KDEPIM when nuts with latest update?