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Sevenhillasac:  same bug confirmed at #ubuntu+1 and resolved by downgrading00:29
asacSevenhill: file a bug against that package please00:31
Sevenhillasac: could you confirm this please ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-widget-network-manager/+bug/37814500:45
ubottuUbuntu bug 378145 in plasma-widget-network-manager "plasma widget networkmanager couldn't connect wpa" [Undecided,New]00:45
BUGabundo1bed time. its 1am! kiss kiss and free hugs!00:56
Sevenhillasac: i need to leave now , but could you confirm my bug #378145 when you are free01:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 378145 in plasma-widget-network-manager "plasma widget networkmanager couldn't connect wpa" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/37814501:03
Sevenhillbye everyone01:08
mbanadoes 3.5 on 9.04 use .fonts.conf.  i've got something to show01:17
mbanahttp://img211.imageshack.us/img211/7454/screenshotcio.png look at this please01:19
mbanathe fonts on the right --- the standard browser --- is better01:19
mbanamaybe the 3.5 version ain't using .fonts.cofn01:22
mbanacan anyone confirm01:35
mbanaok i've gotta go bed01:44
mbanais this is a bug01:44
mbanabye01:59
dtchenasac: yes, big problems. namely, it doesn't work.02:24
dtchenasac: regardless, it requires new pulse, new bluez, new linux. and it doesn't ship enabled anyhow.02:24
micahgis there a javascript expert in here?03:35
* asac off07:53
gnomefreakhave fun asac07:55
gnomefreakhow do i find out about the ways to use apport. example: how to add info to a reported bug already?08:06
gnomefreakwhos here?08:31
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asacgnomefreak: good question ... if you find out about apport let me know09:10
asaci saw some folks using apport-collect09:10
asacnot really sure how that i done09:11
gnomefreakyeah mikem(spelling) was one of them. he seems to know apport well09:11
asachttp://blog.grossmeier.net/2009/03/02/apport-collect-just-what-you-wanted/09:11
asacgnomefreak: ^^09:11
gnomefreakgmail is about 24 hours behind lately09:11
gnomefreakasac: thanks09:12
asaci would think its launchpad and not gmail09:12
asacyou could look at the mail headers to see09:12
gnomefreakasac: someone set me an email on sunday i got one of them but not the other. the one i got was yesterday09:13
gnomefreakapport-collect bug#09:16
gnomefreaki will make a note of it and make sure that is how to get crash info on bugs09:17
gnomefreakbtw google and deepdyve suck badly09:17
asacgnomefreak: i dont think you can attach crash info later easily09:21
asacimo users should just resubmit the .crash file09:21
asacby double clicking on it in nautilus09:21
gnomefreakasac: you should be able to i thought i saw it a few times09:21
asachmm. maybe09:21
gnomefreakasac: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport#Tools look at apport-collect09:23
gnomefreakill be back need drinka nd smoke09:23
asacok i am going off ... will be back when in munich (have a stop there)09:24
asaccu later09:24
gnomefreakhave nice trip09:32
Jazzvawhat is the license for mozilla artwork (eg. Firefox logo)? I searched through /usr/share/doc/firefox-*/copyright, but I didn't found any info.10:31
gnomefreakJazzva: official firefox logos are not free that much i remember10:33
gnomefreakhow the hell do i send myself spam :( i get spam saying the senders name is "me"10:35
Jazzvagnomefreak: that's what I remember too. foxyproxy's license is saying that artwork, name, docs are non-free, but upstream developer is giving us the right to redistribute it. I'm not sure if that's enough to keep foxyproxy in universe, but it sounds like the case with mozilla artwork.10:35
gnomefreaknot sure on that but just a warning foxyproxy is buggy last i heard10:37
gnomefreakJazzva: what are your thoughts on backporting extensions to Hardy? I am against it in full10:41
Jazzvagnomefreak: I don't think it's necessary.10:43
gnomefreakJazzva: i was asked about that and since hardy is LTS i think its a bad idea10:44
Jazzvagnomefreak: yes... new version might introduce new bugs in stable release.10:46
gnomefreaki told him to give me a list and we or me will add them to ppa for testing10:47
gnomefreakok cool meeting in 10 minutes10:48
gnomefreak1st one im going to make in past 5 or so months10:48
Jazzvagnomefreak: meeting?10:49
gnomefreakJazzva: Comunity council meeting10:49
Jazzvagnomefreak: ah, ok.10:49
gnomefreakthe day i show up for a meeting and its not here11:19
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stefanlsdasac: did you have somthing like this in mind for gears - http://paste.ubuntu.com/175698/15:13
RainCTHi16:22
RainCTI'm wondering, is there some policy on adding packages for websites in Prism?16:22
ftamy plan is/was to drop them from the main prism package and create a dedicated project16:27
ftai created that package but i faced issues16:27
fta(i called it prism-webapps)16:29
ftaRainCT, ^^16:29
RainCTfta: Hm, and the package SPAMs the menu? Or would there be some sort of "control centre" to enable/disable which apps you want and add new ones?16:30
ftano, prism-webapps is a src package, creating one deb per app16:30
RainCTAh OK16:30
RainCTfta: So my concern is whether it makes sense to just go and start blindly creating packages for every remotely interesting application16:31
RainCTOr whether we should drop such packages altogether and work on some cross-distro solution instead16:32
ftawe need a common framework, no need to re-invent the wheel each time16:32
ftawe could discuss that at UDS. are you attending?16:32
RainCTYes16:32
ftagood16:33
ftaasac should be interested too16:33
RainCTShould I file a blueprint or something?16:34
ftanot required, but if you want to16:34
ftawe can find a slot, there's usually plenty16:35
RainCTfta: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/prism-applications/16:55
micahgfta, if an upstream bugzilla link exists without a link back, shoudl I add one?17:03
BUGabundogood afternoon18:33
RainCTHi BUGabundo18:39
BUGabundohey RainCT ... not usual to see you here! killing time during the travel?18:40
RainCTBUGabundo: travel?18:43
BUGabundoRainCT: not going to UDS?18:46
RainCTBUGabundo: Sure I do, I live 1 hour from there :)18:47
RainCTBut you said «during the travel». It's still nearly a week until UDS18:47
BUGabundoRainCT: eheh i have all my calendars upside down this week18:49
BUGabundoglad u leave near by... i'm few extra hunderd KMs, on Porto, Portugal18:49
RainCTSo yeah, I'm not very active with Mozilla stuff but today I felt like bugging fta about Prism :P18:51
BUGabundoeheh18:51
RainCTfta: btw, now that I think about it, have you seen the icon proposals for the Google pages on LP?18:51
BUGabundoand we all know how fta lovessssss to be nagged18:51
RainCTlol18:53
RainCTfta: I thought you were running away ;)18:53
BUGabundosee? u made him quit18:53
RainCTbtw, what do you guys use for identi.ca?18:55
BUGabundomicro blogging, social networking, questions, knowlage18:55
RainCTI mean, which apps :)18:57
BUGabundoweb, pidgin, gwibber, gnomedo, laconica.sh, microblog-purple, email (mutt ftw)18:57
BUGabundoand prob something i may have forgot18:57
BUGabundooh... pingfm,hellotxt, tweetfeeds18:58
BUGabundothats about it18:58
BUGabundo... i think18:58
RainCTo_O18:58
* RainCT doesn't want to know how many applications BUGabundo uses a day :P18:58
RainCTah, the last 3 are websites18:59
RainCTPosting with GNOME Do isn't working here :(19:00
BUGabundoRainCT: not do i!19:00
BUGabundoonly one is website19:00
BUGabundoall others are via API19:00
BUGabundomostly by XMPP19:01
BUGabundotime to go19:01
BUGabundosee u latter19:01
RainCTok, cya19:01
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BUGabundoRainCT: did my last message go in ?21:16
RainCTBUGabundo: which was your last message?21:17
BUGabundoRainCT: ping21:17
BUGabundoso to carry on our lovelly talk21:17
BUGabundoI think my irc connection was in the limbo21:17
RainCTUhm no, I got no ping21:20
BUGabundook21:20
BUGabundoso I was really in the mist21:20
RainCTHehe. Btw, gwibber rocks :). I think I'll add it as a startup applications.21:25
BUGabundoehe21:25
BUGabundoI don't21:25
BUGabundothe only thing on my start up is a gnome-terminal21:26
BUGabundoLOL21:26
fta!info sqlite3 karmic21:26
ubottusqlite3 (source: sqlite3): A command line interface for SQLite 3. In component main, is optional. Version 3.6.13-1build1 (karmic), package size 25 kB, installed size 108 kB21:26
ftagrr, too old21:27
fta!info sqlite3 sid21:27
ubottu'sid' is not a valid distribution: dapper, dapper-backports, hardy, hardy-backports, intrepid, intrepid-backports, jaunty, jaunty-backports, karmic, karmic-backports, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, medibuntu, partner21:27
fta!info sqlite3 debian21:27
ubottu'debian' is not a valid distribution: dapper, dapper-backports, hardy, hardy-backports, intrepid, intrepid-backports, jaunty, jaunty-backports, karmic, karmic-backports, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, medibuntu, partner21:27
RainCTOhh, the startup applications thing gets the icon automatically, nice :)21:27
RainCTBUGabundo: have you tried out terminator?21:27
* RainCT hands out packages.debian.org to fta :P21:28
ftaRainCT, i dropped gwibber from my startup app list on my netbook (using unr)21:28
BUGabundoRainCT: I've seen it in action but neber used it21:28
ftaRainCT, yeah, i know p.d.o21:28
RainCTfta: for some particular reason?21:29
RainCTBUGabundo: give it a try, there's no way back :)21:30
BUGabundoeheh21:30
BUGabundolike GnomeDo21:30
BUGabundowho uses it for 30min, won't ever let it go21:30
RainCTsince it has docky, true :D21:30
BUGabundoI don't like docky21:32
BUGabundoI use glassy21:32
BUGabundolooks great on my dark them21:32
BUGabundo*theme21:32
RainCTI don't like dark themes *g*21:32
RainCTgot an URL for glassy?21:32
BUGabundoit's a DO skin.....21:33
ftaRainCT, yep, a/ in UNR, everything starts full screen, b/ when gwibber starts without network, it freezes, c/ i use my netbook a lot without network and d/ gwibber can't start iconified. so add a+d+b+c..21:33
BUGabundoI can take a screenshot if you want21:33
BUGabundoRainCT: uploading now21:33
RainCTBUGabundo: Nah, just tried it out. The name is without the y, that's what confused me :)21:34
BUGabundohttp://dl.getdropbox.com/u/112892/glassy.png21:34
ftahm.. 4065-3580-806 < 0 :(21:34
RainCTfta: oh, didn't know about the freeze, that sucks.. I may hack a bit on it some day of those :)21:34
* RainCT gets annoyed at nautilus because he can't select a bunch of images and do right click -> print :P21:35
* BUGabundo has *ever* been annoyed by not be possible to click->drag->alt+tab->drop21:36
ftai need 290 more chromium installs :021:38
BUGabundoLOL21:39
ftachromium-browser                4113   386  1142  2585     021:39
ftacxchromium                      3594   313  3030   191    6021:39
ftaia32-libs-chromium-browser       941     0     0     0   94121:39
ftaia32-cxchromium                  809    76   673    45    1521:39
ftaFIREFOX_3_0_11_BUILD121:41
ftamore work for asac ;)21:41
BUGabundorolf21:41
RainCTBUGabundo: You roll on a laughing floor? Where did you get it? o_O21:43
RainCT:D21:44
BUGabundo:p21:44
RainCTfta: Uhm.. Can you explain what you just pasted? (I know it's popcon stats, but I don't get what you mean with it)21:45
BUGabundots a mist of native chromium, on wine, etc21:45
ftai just need chromium-browser > cxchromium + ia32-cxchromium21:45
RainCTah21:46
ftai already have ia32-libs-chromium-browser > ia32-cxchromium, which is good21:46
RainCTSo what's chromkum-browser and what's cxchromium?21:47
ftachromium-browser is the native package i maintain. cxchromium is the wine/codeweaver package of the win32 blob21:48
RainCTAh OK. cxchromium uses wine?21:48
RainCTOK21:48
RainCTSo.. Have you tried blogging about it? :)21:48
ftanope, i don't have a blog21:48
BUGabundoeheh21:48
ftamaybe i should21:48
BUGabundofta just has a µblog21:48
BUGabundofta: recently we figured we could email to identica and remove the char limit21:49
ftabut i stopped reading blogs 6 months ago, i got saturated21:49
BUGabundofta: want my shared feed?21:50
BUGabundolol21:50
RainCThttp://srikrishnadas.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/5rdaug.jpg21:50
BUGabundoehehehehh21:50
RainCTNow that's what I call stability :)21:51
BUGabundoits not even alpha21:51
RainCTRight, but that image is awesome :)21:51
ftathe win32 version was released21:51
ftadh_install: xulrunner-1.9.2-dev missing files (debian/tmp/usr/{include,share/idl}/xulrunner-1.9*/stable), aborting21:54
ftamake: *** [binary-post-install/xulrunner-1.9.2] Error 121:54
ftadpkg-buildpackage: failure: /usr/bin/fakeroot debian/rules binary-arch gave error exit status 221:54
ftahmm, not good21:54
ftait means massive changes to the -dev structure21:54
RainCTfta: what's gwibber's conf-mode?22:13
ftaconference mode, where a tag is automatically added22:14
RainCTAh, cool22:14
ftawe discussed that months ago, i expected it before UDS22:14
RainCTuhm.. I've upgraded to gwibber from Karmic and now it's broken, connection error :(22:19
RainCTah, nevermind22:19
RainCTseems like it messed up my password, writing it again fixed it22:19
ftaasac, mozilla bug 488175 => dist/sdk/include removed, and more importantly, flattened dist/include22:28
ubottuMozilla bug 488175 in Build Config "Need to include |namespace mozilla {Foo}| headers as |#include "mozilla/Foo"|" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48817522:28
ftaasac, no more include stable vs unstable !? wtf?22:57
Jazzvaasac: ping23:31
ftaJazzva, he should be in spain by now23:32
Jazzvafta: no internet over there?23:32
Jazzvafta: maybe you know, or someone else :)23:32
ftai hope there is23:32
Jazzvafta: you're not at UDS?23:33
BUGabundo !question | Jazzva23:33
ubottuJazzva: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)23:33
BUGabundoeehe23:33
ftaJazzva, it's next week23:33
JazzvaBUGabundo: heh :)... I didn't ask to ask a question :P23:33
Jazzvafta: ah... ok23:33
ftathe empty ping is a form of request to ask a question ;)23:34
fta!ping23:34
ubottuping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore23:34
Jazzvaanyway, do you think it's possible to install the extensions the same way we install Flash plugin (eg. download the xpi file, and unpack it to somewhere, and link to appropriate places)?23:34
Jazzvafta: oh, ok :)23:34
ftapossible yes, desirable, i'm not sure23:35
Jazzvafta: yeah... the downside is that we can't provide our patches, if the upstream extensions are broken in Ubuntu... or we can, but that would be easily breakable23:35
fta? why can't we provide our patches?23:36
Jazzvafta: in the case where we just download the xpi in the installation procedure, the patch might not work23:37
ftasure23:37
ftawhat is the rationale for dling the xpi during install, vs what we do now?23:39
Jazzvafta: no need to update the package when there is a newer version online. Though, we would need to push a new version of package with higher version in order to get it in system updates.23:41
Jazzvafta: so, it's mostly a crazy idea in my head that just came, and seemed nice for a moment :)23:41
ftaJazzva, a bot was supposed to take care of bumping the packages.. though it never happened :P23:41
Jazzvafta: about that... where are we now? do you know what needs to be done?23:42
ftai focused on dailies23:42
ftano, asac was mentoring someone iirc23:43
Jazzvafta: I would like to focus on auto-update bot, as I'll have much more free time in a few weeks...23:43
ftafeel free23:43
Jazzvafta: yes, I remember someone else joined the effort...23:43

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