[00:42] In ubottu, Ampelbein said: !no, 3dchess is If you are trying to enable 3d effects in the GNOME chess game, please see https://launchpad.net/bugs/350850 [00:44] hi. it's me again. there is another problem with factoids that i don't know how to resolve. apparently, there is a spelling mistake. the factoid !alcarte should be known as !alacarte [00:46] Ampelbein: Thanks. I don't think we even need that factoid anymore though. The link is dead and alacarte comes install with ubuntu-desktop [00:46] ubottu: forget alcarte [00:46] I'll forget that, Pici [00:46] Pici: i think you are right. [00:47] Ampelbein: Right click on the default menu applet in gnome and go to edit menus gives you alacarte [00:47] i'll wade through other factoids to see what i can correct. did you get the 3dchess thingie? [00:47] Pici: i do know that. check the last uploaders for alacarte ;-) [00:49] Ampelbein: Ah :) [00:49] Pici: oh, and !smeg should be deleted also. [00:49] it's alias for alcarte. [00:49] indeed, gone now. [00:49] ok, i'm gone again. will check back if i found another issue ;-) [00:50] i don't want you to get bored in here ;-) [00:54] ubottu: ops channel ban list [00:54] ops channel ban list is full.. we need some housekeeping [00:54] another bad factoid [00:55] i like it :) [01:27] In ubottu, Ampelbein said: !no, queue is The queue of packages awaiting approval to enter the archive and scheduled for build (also known as the NEW queue) is at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+queue [01:27] !queue [01:27] The queue of packages awaiting approval to enter the archive and scheduled for build (also known as the NEW queue) is at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+queue [01:27] queue =~ s/jaunty/karmic/ [01:27] !queue =~ s/jaunty/karmic/ [01:27] I'll remember that Pici [01:47] In ubottu, Ampelbein said: !mom is MoM is the Ubuntu Merge-O-Matic, a website helping the MOTUs keep Ubuntu in sync with Debian. See https://merges.ubuntu.com/ [01:48] In ubottu, Ampelbein said: !no, dad is DaD was an alternative to !mom and has been shutdown in February 2009, see http://dad.dunnewind.net/end.php [01:49] !mom is MoM is the Ubuntu Merge-O-Matic, a website helping the MOTUs keep Ubuntu in sync with Debian. See https://merges.ubuntu.com/ [01:49] I'll remember that, Pici [01:49] !no dad is DaD was an alternative to !mom and has been shutdown in February 2009, see http://dad.dunnewind.net/end.php [01:49] I'll remember that Pici [01:53] In ubottu, Ampelbein said: !no, dbgsym is For information on how to install debug-symbols, see https://wiki.ubuntu.…ogramCrash [01:53] In ubottu, Ampelbein said: !no, ddebs is dbgsym [01:54] !pici | pici [01:54] pici: pici is stuck in a factoid factory! Send halp! [01:55] why am I banned on #ubuntu? [01:56] it's me again. \o/! The factoid !debfoster can be deleted, I think. It's deprecated since 2006, aptitude performs the same. See http://www.fruit.je/debfoster/ [01:57] same goes for deborphan [01:59] that's it for now, see you soon. ;-) [02:00] vertix: You seem to have quite a few entries here, one moment. [02:12] eseven73 called the ops in #ubuntu (Macb0t) [02:15] vertix: While the original ban in #ubuntu was for a relatively minor issue, it seems that your behavior in #ubuntu-ops has impacted your chances of being unbanned in #ubuntu [02:17] Pici: interesting, macb0t seems to be joining about the same channels that yesterday's bot joined [02:19] LjL: Interesting indeed. different hosts though.. [02:20] Pici: happen to have f1shb0t's owner's whois? [02:23] Pici: i believe the nick "macbutt" is linked to macb0t, too (although different address). they join/part channels almost together. [02:23] LjL: This is all I got from the other day: http://paste.ubuntu.com/175305/ [02:24] Pici: thanks, that's useful. he's got one channel in common with antitab [02:29] vertix: If theres nothing you'd like to discuss now, I know you're aware of our channel policy regarding idling. [02:59] Pici: FWIW, i can assure that neither macb0t nor its owner would have a valid reason to be in help channels in the near future. [04:35] FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [04:35] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [05:21] Howdy boredandblogging, how can we help you today? [05:24] I didn't mean to scare him off.... [05:39] Why must people attempt to sound smarter than they are? [06:28] Flannel: boredandblogging happens to be a memeber of the IRC council ;) [06:33] jussi01: Well, it's a good thing he wasn't around long enough to notice what I said then, eh? [07:08] Titan8990 called the ops in #ubuntu () [08:19] Titan8990 called the ops in #ubuntu (LaZyFo0L) [08:47] next Xangavizike will say someting about killing Tux or TUCKS must DIE or death to linux! [08:47] and then we will know he is the troll i think he is [08:47] heh [08:48] and then when you ban him, every line will contain "brotha" [08:48] maybe you should +brotha him [08:49] yeah? including the +o ? [08:49] mmmm,alright, fair point. [08:49] :) [08:58] that nick sounds familiar [08:58] [10:58] ~~~142 - #ubuntu: ban ?ngavezirk*!*@* [by Myrtti!i=myrtti@ubuntu/member/myrtti, 5523793 secs ago] [08:59] that's the guy, brotha [10:09] morning all [10:37] Pici, I don't know what are you talking about when you say: vertix: While the original ban in #ubuntu was for a relatively minor issue, it seems that your behavior in #ubuntu-ops has impacted your chances of being unbanned in #ubuntu [10:37] vertix: He meants exactly that. [10:38] what specifically in terms of "behavior" are you talking about? [10:38] Flannel, I have no idea what are you talking about in terms if "behavior" [10:39] All I did here is try to address the issue of totally inappropriate ban, which is nothing more than abuse of authority by the OP, who should have been deopped from #ubuntu for doing things like that [10:40] and one more time: I have also been humiliated, laughed at, insulted right here by some of ops [10:40] vertix: volumes could be written on it. However, I'll give you one and a half examples: The fact that you insisted on returning here and repeating the same things a number of times, after being told to wait until certain parties were around. And then continued to return and idle, even after it's been made extremely clear to you that you're not to do that. [10:41] ok, those parties were around and you had a chance to discuss that ban [10:41] can you tell me what are the results and what actions have been taken by the "board"? [10:42] this chan is on auto join. whenever I have to reboot, it joins [10:42] vertix: I don't have that information, no. However I can tell you that as it stands now, your ban in #ubuntu will not be removed. As was already mentioned. [10:42] vertix: You should remove that autojoin. [10:42] I would like to see what is done on behalf of public in this channel and how YOU "behave" serving the interests of those, who placed you here as ops [10:43] why should I remove that autojoin? [10:43] ubottu, idle | vertix [10:43] vertix: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only; we ask you to part when you have no further business here in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries. [10:43] just put a ban on him in here [10:43] he's been asked enough times [10:43] that reason, perhaps? [10:43] What is so secret about this chan that is supposed to supervise the op's behavior on #ubuntu according to public information? [10:43] vertix: You're entirely welcome to do that. However, as was already stated a number of times, this channel is not to be idled in. You should only join it when you have something to discuss, which is not the same as "whenever I turn on my computer" [10:43] vertix: Nothing. This channel is logged. This has been explained to you. [10:43] I am talking exactly about op's abuse [10:44] vertix: We're talking about you honoring our channel policies. [10:44] one more time: how come this chan is not allowed to be logged by public [10:45] vertix: It is logged, publically. [10:45] why would it need to be logged by john mundane when it's already logged officially? [10:45] the logs could be doctored easily and whatever is done behind the doors remains unknown to public [10:45] I will discuss the channel policies in appropriate places in due time [10:46] * Madpilot hands vertix a tin-foil hat. Pull it down right around your ears, now. [10:46] Flannel, I have seen doctored logs from other channels and have 100% confidence in my findings. Because I also had a log [10:46] vertix: I'm sure you do. [10:47] My good faith is really streched to the limits [10:47] vertix: Is there anything else we can help you with today? If not, please don't idle here. [10:47] and that is what you do here? serving public insterest? Madpilot hands vertix a tin-foil hat. Pull it down right around your ears, now. [10:47] and you talk about MY "behavior"? [10:47] vertix: Good afternoon vertix. Hope you have a wonderful day. [10:48] you did not help me with ANYTHING, did not specifically answer my valid questions about anything and now you are simply forcing me out before doing ANYTHING [10:49] that is why I asked you before: what is happening in this channels behind the closed door? [10:49] vertix: No, I told you that I don't have that information, nor do I know who does. Nor will you be unbanned from #ubuntu, as was mentioned to you. [10:50] Flannel, that is what I am hearing from the day one of that utterly inappropriate band, that is nothing more than abuse of power and authority [10:50] vertix: This channel, much to your chagrin, does not bend to your every whim. I'm sorry if you've been treated that way in your life thus far, but it's time for you to wake up and experience the real world. [10:50] vertix: Here's a hint for you to take with you: In the world, the manner in which you go about attempting to exact change is as important, if not more so, than the change you hope to enact. [10:51] and now, you, who was GIVEN this authority to protect the public interest, are simply laughing at the victim, and, after all this time, you had to examine the issue, you still do not answer the specific questions [10:52] vertix: we've tried to answer them, but you seem to be ignoring them and bending the answers to your own will [10:52] Flannel, I don't need teachers about "real world" or "real life". You can follow your own advice [10:53] Flannel, is this a psychology school of behavioral analysis here? [10:53] I do not recall a single specific answer on any of valid questions i presented [10:54] vertix: Sure you do. Pici said things plainly: you won't be unbanned in the near future, because you're shooting yourself in the foot now. [10:54] i can see several people coming at me with insults, ridicule and totally inappropriate behavior [10:54] vertix: you've been told that while this channel is being publically logged, we prefer to keep this channel vacant from idlers, so that any given issue given to us can be handled individually [10:54] and not a single specific answer has been presented to day as logs will show when published in full [10:55] vertix: Feel free to do so. We already do. [10:55] something must be lost in translation here, I didn't understand that sentence [10:55] but you are serving the PUBLIC interest here and policies for YOUR behavior are outlined quite specifically [10:55] Myrtti: He's going to publish the logs of this channel, to show that we're as unhelpful as he says we are. [10:56] yes [10:56] oh ok. [10:56] well it's a good thing we've got the public logs as well [10:56] exactly that for one thing. not only unhelpful, bur harassing and abusing the authority bestowed upon thee [10:56] me too? [10:56] you mean the public logs that /already/ publish everything said in this channel? [10:57] Myrtii, but your logs are doctored I bet, as I have seen on some other channels [10:57] how does anybody know that your logs are genuine? [10:57] vertix: Did you have anything else to add to the discussion today? As we've said a few times, we've heard this before. We'd prefer it if you only came here to bestow new information upon us. [10:57] vertix: and yours the same this is why we publiicly post them using a bot [10:57] I need a SPECIFIC answer on my original ban [10:58] vertix: No, you won't be unbanned today. [10:58] vertix: specific enough? [10:58] and subsequent developments regarding it [10:58] well, this has been going on for how many days already? [10:58] One more time: what was the EXACT and specific reason for my original ban? [10:58] vertix: That's correct. You weren't unbanned on those days either. [10:59] I don't need references, I need a DIRECT and OFFICIAL statement [10:59] I really would like to help him, but my good faith is really stretched thin here [10:59] are you a priest or a public servant? [10:59] vertix: As we already said, we don't bend to your every whim. It's not important, as Pici outlined, your current ban is due ot your continuing behavior, not your initial offense. [10:59] * gnomefreak doesnt remember how to use bantracker it should have a snipit of the convo IIRC [10:59] vertix: not only those both, but.. [10:59] @login [10:59] The operation succeeded. [10:59] @btlogin [11:00] what SPECIFIC "behavior" are you talking about [11:00] vertix: I've already outlined, and given you an example. I will not ennumerate everything, since that would take me considerably more time than I wish to waste on you today. [11:00] you are not listening to anything and all you are doing is harassing me and forcing me out BEFORE the issue is resolved and not SPECIFICALLY stating the OFFICIAL position on this matter [11:00] * Myrtti goes to work since this convo is an obvious dead end, again [11:01] ActionParsnip called the ops in #ubuntu () [11:01] vertix: What question did you just ask that I did not answer? [11:02] Flannel, WHAT SPECIFIC REASON WAS FOR MY ORIGINAL BAN and HOW SPECIFICALLY IT WAS RESOLVED WITH JACK_SPARROW? [11:02] vertix: It's immaterial to your continued ban from #ubuntu. [11:03] because that is the original request I made: I do not wish to discuss anything with him because I am not interested in talking to violent people, who abuse their authority and exceeds all conceivable limits to it [11:03] vertix, regardless of your original ban, your continued behaviour here warrents keeping it in place. How many times have you been removed from -ops in the last few days, anyway? [11:03] "immaterial" is not the answer [11:03] it is just further abuse [11:04] Myrtti: do you mind? We're just spiralling again. [11:04] Flannel: sec [11:04] Thankee [11:04] YOU may be spiralling [11:04] and YOU are abusing everything there is to abuse [11:04] vertix: Again vertix, I wish you the best of days today. Hopefully we'll reach a juncture in the near future where this can all be resolved. [11:05] and YOU are not addressing a single specific point with specific official statement [11:05] vertix: I don't think that you can discuss your matter when all the time you use "op abuse" card when you have no other answer [11:05] vertix: your original ban hasn't been resolved, since you don't discuss it with Jack_Sparrow and us [11:07] Flannel, I had a very serious problem with my system because my box was rooted and you are preventing me from resolving this issue on #ubuntu, and YOU are interfering from discussing this latest version of the most lethal rootkit known to date, and it's been days you are preventing me from being able to communicate on this matter in appropriate places, such as PUBLIC #ubuntu channel [11:07] and I have not done a SINGLE "wrong" thing and I have studied the policies of the "supervisory panel" [11:07] vertix: most IRC clients log all activity in a channel please look at your logs to determine why you were banned and also see about the abuse. please feel free to discuss it in more detail than. At this time you are not helping yourself with op abuse ops not doing thier job ect.... [11:08] vertix, got a bug report number for the 'most lethal rootkit'? [11:08] that is why I asked some of you: are ANY of you involved with this latest release of rootkit? [11:08] I have been follwed by ikonia, provoking me and insulting me on other channels. What is his interest on this? [11:08] i dont type this channel [11:09] Vampires: We'll be with you momentarily. [11:09] Vampires: you are fowarded here because dispite the warnings you kept on with your comments [11:09] he is hanging out on #security for several days now, and joined it immediately after me, and as soon as I start speaking he immediately starts perverting things and fabricating lies [11:09] what comment [11:10] gnomefreak: lets deal with vertix here first, since he's been here longer [11:10] Vampires: hold on, please [11:10] Vampires: the please make me part.... [11:10] i asked for part not banned [11:10] Myrtti: i dont know anything about vertix [11:10] lmao [11:10] Vampires: you were wanred now you are banned [11:10] are you running a power trip here and abusing that authority given to you, by ANY chance? [11:11] vertix: be real careeful who and what you accuse people of [11:11] why Myrtti is good in banning users [11:11] he never read what others says. he keep on banning. [11:12] Vampires: you know why you were banned you were wanred more than 4 times to stay on topic and you refused to [11:12] Vampires: you were disturbing the channel with your requests [11:12] i didnt disturbed [11:12] you asked and you recieved [11:12] Vampires: that is a support channel only [11:12] i ask part not banned, idiot [11:12] Vampires: the channel is only for Ubuntu support questions, and asking to be parted/kicked is abusing both the operators and the other peoples time [11:13] i wouldnt do that Vampires [11:13] calling people names is not helping you at all [11:13] I especially liked these parts of the discussion: [11:13] [13:05] fuck [11:13] [13:05] you [11:13] [13:05] mother fucker DIE [11:13] * gnomefreak suggests at least 48 hours [11:14] vertix: you've been muted so we can handle Vampires case [11:14] then FUCK YOU . DO YOU THINK FREENODE IS THE ONLY IRC . YOUR FREENODE IS JUST A BURNT BITCH. BUNCH OF CLONES VPS AND BEGGING FOR DONATION. FUCK OFF [11:14] freenode is not ubuntu, ubuntu is not freenode [11:14] i think we should forward him to #freenode. [11:14] Vampires: that is why you were banned now please part this channel and come back in a few days [11:14] elky, +1 [11:14] elky: agreed since we cant forward him to /dev/null [11:15] why sould i come back after few days ? are you losing donners ? lmao [11:15] vertix: as I said, nobody apart from me can see what you're saying at the moment since you've been muted so we'd have a chance to handle Vampires case [11:15] Vampires: no come back because you are way too hyper and being very unhelpful in resolving this. [11:15] fuck you all [11:16] opic is 'Welcome to the home of the Ubuntu IRC Team operators | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam | This channel is for operator/abuse questions in the IRC Team domain only | Support in #ubuntu, #kubuntu etc... | LoCo channel discussion/issues etc to #ubuntu-irc | We reserve the right to remove idlers from the channel | Channel is logged at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ | Be good!' [11:16] *** Set by Pici on Thu Jan 22 21:34:31 [11:16] -ChanServ- [#ubuntu-ops] Welcome to the home of the Ubuntu IRC Team operators - This channel is for operator/abuse questions in the IRC Team domain only - #ubuntu-irc has a broader scope [11:16] Vampires: no come back because you are way too hyper and being very unhelpful in resolving this. [11:16] hes not going to like that [11:16] awwww [11:16] ok, back to vertix [11:17] WHILE I was muted that was [11:17] vertix: hold on, need to get the logs online first [11:17] fine [11:17] after that, I'm off to really work [11:18] lemme do it myself by cut/paste: [11:18] one more time: I am talking about the most lethal version of rootkit known to [11:18] Myrtti: i said that 3 hours ago i still havent gotten there [11:18] date and I have information and logs to warn the public and take precautionary [11:18] measures and YOU are preventing me from solving this issues, getting the [11:18] opinions of others and informing public about this most dangerous rootkit system [11:18] vertix, so, as I said before, URL of bug report for this lethal rootkit, pls? [11:19] this information has been published in various places [11:19] in appropriate places [11:19] vertix: then give us some url? [11:19] http://paste.ubuntu.com/175544/ [11:19] there we go [11:19] and I have all the evidence of this rootkit and all the attacking host in the network. those logs are in top shape [11:20] and I suspect THAT is the reason i was banned on the first place [11:20] saying you have proof is not proof in its self [11:21] oh god, I messed the logs up :-( [11:21] because you think Ubuntu ops code up rootkits for fun? [11:21] Myrtti, fine, I see that page, and what does it tell you? [11:21] stupid irc [11:21] @btlogin [11:21] I can produce 7 megs of logs, time stamped to the second resolution with ALL the packets by ALL involved hosts [11:22] ok, so everything needed is in before the LASTLOG line [11:22] and some of it has been published already [11:22] vertix: and these logs show what? [11:22] @login [11:22] The operation succeeded. [11:22] @btlogin [11:22] * Myrtti vanishes [11:22] Madpilot, YOU know better what #ubuntu-ops are about, and we'll get into it in more details, not to worry [11:23] Flannel, these logs shows the activity of their entire attacking network [11:23] we're supposed to code up rootkits as well as police Ubuntu IRC channels? I didn't get that memo... pity I suck at coding. [11:24] vertix: Yes, and how do we come into all of this then? [11:24] and we are dealing with the rootkit allegedly released by recording industry to jeopardise torrent networks [11:24] and destroy as many systems as possible, according to google search on one of their main hosts [11:24] If you have all the logs, why don't you just publish or whatever it is that one does with logs these days. [11:25] do you want to see a reference to that article regarding this host? [11:25] just a sec [11:25] 129.47.9.160 [11:25] ubuntu IRC channels aren't the best places to publish such information anyway [11:25] that is one of their main hosts [11:25] I don't. Others might. I just want to know how this affects us, and why we're coming into play. [11:25] if you want to get it properly spread out, blog about it with all your findings and do bug reports [11:26] It is MY busines what is the "best" place to publish such a thing, and #ubuntu with about 1500 participants at any given time, IS the right place in my opinion [11:26] 74.125.10.34 - 2nd level host [11:26] 67.55.13.135 [11:26] vertix: That's incorrect. #ubuntu is for support discussions, not other topics. [11:26] We don't even discuss Ubuntu in #ubuntu. [11:27] vertix: I've been on #ubuntu since 2005 and I think I've got a pretty good idea what goes on there - your cry would be lost there [11:27] I ams still waiting for exact and specific statement on my original ban, and OFFICIAL statement on this manner, and the results of your investigation and discussions with Jack_Sparrow [11:27] So, I'm glad we've been able to warn you that attempting to announce it in #ubuntu would be fruitless, so you may turn your efforts elsewhere, to better places. [11:27] vertix: have you been here to discuss it with Jack_Sparrow? [11:28] vertix: How does that affect your announcement of this rootkit? How are we impeding your progress in the matter? [11:28] Myrtti: aren't you supposed to be gone? [11:28] Flannel: I know, I got stuck with twitter [11:28] and designing kitchens [11:28] Myrtti: Just say no to two point oh! [11:28] Flannel, that is EXACTLY what I was doing before I was banned, and ikonia apparently got very concerned with it for some strange reason, and so is Jack_Sparrow, who banned me for no reason at all [11:28] late to work because you were designing kitchens? that's a novel reason. [11:29] vertix: What is exactly what you were doing? [11:29] Flannel, I was there not to announce the rootkit, I was there to discuss the specific issues related to compromised system [11:29] Madpilot: I've been "working" since four hours ago... telecommute of three meters from the bed to sofa [11:29] and directly related to Ubuntu [11:29] s/tele// [11:30] vertix, where is your evidence of this rootkit? [11:30] vertix: yes, well, as we said, we don't even discuss non-support Ubuntu topics in #ubuntu. [11:30] vertix, being persistantly off-topic in #ubuntu - which I can easily imagine - is an easy way to get banned. It's hardly unusual. [11:30] and the impression I have at this point, that for some unknown reason, you are interested in silencing me [11:30] Madpilot, I was not "off-topic" [11:31] vertix: if it's not ubuntu-support, it's off-topic [11:31] is this still going on ? [11:31] am i invisible? [11:31] Tm_T, have you seen the logs before you start fabricating this? [11:31] elky: Yep. [11:31] vertix: which logs? [11:32] vertix, i asked you a question. [11:32] logs of #ubuntu before I was banned [11:32] vertix: I merely said where goes the line of off-topic, didn't say you were or weren't [11:32] and I asked this already, and not once: WHAT SPECIFIC STATEMENT OF MINE RESULTED IN MY ORIGINAL BAN? [11:33] vertix: No time for that, please continue regarding the rootkit. [11:33] vertix: It's imperative you educate us sooner, so we can take action for its prevention. [11:33] Tm_T, before you start making conclusions, you have to study the SPECIFIC inssues, otherwise your conclusions are based on inventions and fabrications [11:34] Flannel, you can not even BEGIN to imagine what this rootkit is all about [11:34] vertix: I didn't make any conclusions [11:34] * gnomefreak justs needs name/numbers and i will find the rootkit but without those there is no way to look it up [11:34] vertix, i've asked you already, can i see evidence of this rootkit? [11:34] and its destructive potential. and by now, I know more about it than anyone else I know of [11:35] vertix: That's because I haven't heard enough. Please, enlighten us. Show us the way out of the cave so that we may no longer gaze upon the shadows of figures, but of the figures themselves. [11:35] vertix: please just give us a url to the root kit other wise we can not confirm there is one that is out there [11:35] gnomefreak, I have the full details of this rootkits behavior, how it affects linux and jumps the o/s barrier, what it infects, including bios and MBR, [11:35] how it bypasses the kernel security [11:36] vertix, we want to see that information right now. [11:36] vertix: show me a lnk other wise i can tell you all about it as well [11:36] and totally controls the o/s before kernel security is enabled and kernel is armed [11:36] how it affects your network and disk drivers [11:36] and the rest of it [11:36] it also makes pink bunnies fly across the screen [11:36] vertix, please link me to this information? [11:36] and it is spreading with thousands of copies every day [11:36] and no scanner can detect it [11:37] we can all make unfounded claims [11:37] vertix: how did you hear about this rootkit? [11:37] becasue it modifies your MBR and gets into your bios [11:37] just pleast don't type anything [11:37] cant provide info on it ban stays [11:37] and how it makes hidden partitions by changing your partition table during boot/shutdown [11:37] ? [11:37] and how it addresses data on disk TOTALLY bypassing the o/s [11:38] vertix, please link us to information on this threat [11:38] does it link to my bank account and steal all my money too? [11:38] and how it keeps tracks of all the viruses and trojans it already stored on your driver [11:38] of course, I don't have any money. Maybe it could steal my debt instead. [11:38] there are no viruses at this time that affect linux [11:39] and it takes pictures with your webcam and send it off to the FBI too? [11:39] elky, you you all speak, then I can't even see it, because i am concerned with trying to give you the basic overall architecture of it [11:39] gnomefrea, my box was infected [11:39] and I have written a monitoring firewall [11:39] vertix: all we want is a link, not a "architecture" description [11:39] so I could do in seconds what would take you days [11:39] vertix: that means nothing to us, that could have been a locale problem thats why we need the url [11:40] link to what? [11:40] vertix, i want a webpage with this information on it [11:40] documentation of what you've found [11:40] to the information [11:40] url to what? [11:40] it forwards embarrassing drunken Facebook photos to all your supervisors, bosses and employers too, right? [11:40] vertix: we need the information we can see other than your lines in irc alone [11:41] check the logs of #security chan during may 1-17, grep for vertix, that is one place. other places I am not going to give you now [11:41] vertix: so you "lost" the link to info about it? [11:41] vertix, we need some evidence that's NOT you talking [11:41] no, not IRC logs, real information [11:41] Madpilot, stop ridiculing me [11:41] vertix, we need someone to back your claims up [11:41] I have ALL the links I need [11:41] so post them [11:42] all saved, backed up on proper media [11:42] I gave you the link. study it [11:42] unless we see some authoritative information, we don't believe yoy [11:42] what link? where? [11:42] *you [11:42] and IMMEDIATELY unban me on #ubuntu and stop banning me here, because it does not look good for YOUR record [11:42] vertix: we are unable to confirm that there is a rootkit that is new, due to that you were still off topic in #ubuntu, please provide us a link on the rootkit and what it does so we can protect against it [11:42] and stop harassing and ridiculing me [11:43] vertix, what link? you've not given me any URL [11:43] if you refuse to provide any evidence, then how are we to know if you are telling the truth or not? [11:43] vertix: we need independent data and we need to be able to confirm your findings ourselves [11:43] vertix: irc is not independent data [11:43] until you can provide us with a link there is no use going on any longer [11:43] gnomefreak, you can fabricate anything you wish, but you did not see the specific information looks like. Did you see the #ubuntu logs to substantiate your claim? [11:43] as you claim yourself [11:43] you could fabricate anything you wish yourself [11:44] I can not speak to several people simultaneously, it is too fast to really see what you are trying to do [11:44] vertix: you cant prove that is it out there so you would be the one fabricating info [11:44] vertix: then put it on a webpage! [11:44] vertix: we all asked for the same info [11:44] Myrtti, I have the orignal logs and detailed description of its behavior (rootkit) [11:44] vertix: And whats keeping you from sharing them with the world? [11:44] IRC logs are not evidence [11:45] re [11:45] hi [11:45] Hi gsuveg, how can we help you today? [11:45] logs are for about a week, when I was playing with their network via enabling/disabling new rules, made specifically for this situation, and I can do it very quickly [11:45] we need an official link say from norton mcafee ect... [11:45]