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durt | hey folks, If I start testing karma, will jaunty packages (universe et al) work? | 00:55 |
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durt | sry karmic | 00:55 |
Tekno | not recommended | 00:58 |
durt | my understanding is that there are no universe till later, is this correct? | 00:59 |
Roasted | Anybody running 9.10 in a VM? I can't boot the ISO in Virtualbox without it erroring out at the initramfs command screen, or whatever.. | 01:00 |
arand | Roasted: you could always go the upgrade route. | 01:02 |
maxb | Nope. Running 9.10 on real hardware, though | 01:02 |
Roasted | arand - I wasn't aware I could upgrade distros to a beta version. | 01:02 |
arand | Roasted: "update-manager -d" should work by now, I think... | 01:03 |
arand | Roasted: I went the upgrade route, but that was before even the update manger thing worked (just changed my sources list) | 01:04 |
charlie-tca | Roasted: is that the desktop cd iso? | 01:04 |
charlie-tca | The alternate works good for me | 01:04 |
durt | arand: will that keep the jaunty packages that aren't built for karmic, or is my understanding of this way off? | 01:05 |
Roasted | it's the i386 iso from daily build | 01:05 |
Roasted | 32 bit | 01:05 |
Roasted | I tried throwing it in a VM with Virtualbox and it just crapped out. | 01:05 |
arand | durt: I think so... | 01:05 |
thiebaude | hi arand | 01:05 |
arand | thiebaude: helloo:) | 01:05 |
charlie-tca | there is a desktop iso and an alternate iso. | 01:05 |
Roasted | like I can hit the main screen and when I select boot to liveCD or install ubuntu, I get (initramfs) | 01:06 |
arand | thiebaude: btw, I was formerly "ienorand" | 01:06 |
Roasted | I'll try the alternate a while. I was hoping the iso would work | 01:06 |
thiebaude | i didn't even know that,lol | 01:06 |
thiebaude | no wonder i was looking for you earlier | 01:06 |
arand | yea, I changed recently... | 01:07 |
charlie-tca | The live cd is not any good yet. There is still a problem with aufs | 01:07 |
thiebaude | i'll bbl going to watch Idol | 01:07 |
Roasted | ahhhh okay | 01:07 |
Roasted | thanks for that tid bit charlie-tca | 01:07 |
arand | There really doesn't seem to be any good way to tell ppl about nick changes on irc... | 01:07 |
Roasted | alternate CD installing now | 01:07 |
charlie-tca | no problem | 01:07 |
Roasted | err, downloading | 01:07 |
arand | Roasted: That would've been a blazing connection otherwise | 01:08 |
Roasted | arand - one could only hope, right? | 01:08 |
Roasted | but naw, I have comcast, and I live in an area where everybody is about 110 and watches TV all day. My speeds now are kinda poor. | 01:08 |
arand | ouch, at least I get good speeds ~1mb/s, on the other hand, everything from irc to gaming ports are blocked at uni here | 01:10 |
Roasted | aight, I'm out fellas. Thanks again. | 01:12 |
arand | /sbin/ldconfig.real: libraries libpng.so and libpng12.so.0.15.0 in directory /usr/lib have same soname but different type. << I get this message whe I run apt, any ideas what could be the cause? | 01:15 |
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DanielRM | Anyone finding that yelp segfaults on startup? | 03:02 |
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fljohn | good morning afternoon | 06:00 |
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Le-Chuck_ITA | Hi there, AFAYK if I install only the kernel from jaunty, will the radeon driver work or should I also upgrade the entire xorg? | 12:02 |
BluesKaj | Howdy all | 14:12 |
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BUGabundo | !ping | 14:39 |
ubottu | ping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore | 14:39 |
BUGabundo | ok i'm alive... still | 14:39 |
BluesKaj | what's happening ? | 14:42 |
hggdh | BUGabundo, hi | 14:44 |
BUGabundo | BluesKaj: hggdh hey guys | 14:44 |
BUGabundo | BluesKaj: nothing special... just checking in... calm day at work | 14:45 |
BUGabundo | trying to group my personal nick and my work nick, but FAILed | 14:45 |
BUGabundo | seems i cant group already registered nicks :\ | 14:45 |
hggdh | BUGabundo, I am now a member :-D | 14:46 |
BluesKaj | yeah, BUGabundo I haven't bothered registering and cloaking my laptop nick ..too lazy | 14:47 |
BUGabundo | hggdh: congrats! FINALLY | 14:48 |
hggdh | yes! | 14:49 |
BUGabundo | took u long | 14:49 |
BUGabundo | any trouble? | 14:49 |
BUGabundo | or all your triage skills helped? | 14:49 |
hggdh | took me longer to decide to do it ;-). And no, no issues -- was pretty much a walk in the park | 14:50 |
hggdh | yes they did | 14:50 |
hggdh | and the testimonials also | 14:50 |
hggdh | (thanks, BTW) | 14:50 |
BUGabundo | i think u have one of me, right? | 14:50 |
hggdh | yes | 14:50 |
BUGabundo | next step: MOTU? | 14:51 |
hggdh | :-) | 14:51 |
BUGabundo | funny how u got into bug squad before Member | 14:51 |
BUGabundo | eheh | 14:51 |
hggdh | yes, but this will take a bit longer... | 14:51 |
BUGabundo | u are in no hurray | 14:51 |
BUGabundo | eheh | 14:51 |
hggdh | anyone can be -control, as long as they show experience on bug handling | 14:51 |
BUGabundo | anyone can be a Member | 14:51 |
BUGabundo | LOL | 14:51 |
BluesKaj | what's required to become a member? Someone was bugging me to , but I don't think I have the skills. | 14:52 |
BUGabundo | BluesKaj: doing a great job to and for the Community | 14:53 |
BUGabundo | advocating, helping, etc | 14:53 |
BluesKaj | sounds arbitrary :) | 14:53 |
BUGabundo | i do bug filling, advocating, promotion, user support, so on so on | 14:53 |
BUGabundo | BluesKaj: check my LP profile and my wiki | 14:53 |
BUGabundo | then tell me its _arbitary_ | 14:54 |
BluesKaj | I said it "sounds" arbitrary :) | 14:55 |
hggdh | BluesKaj, in fact it is not -- a member has to show commitment | 14:55 |
BUGabundo | hggdh: and pass Membership meeting.... not always easy | 14:55 |
hggdh | well, yes, there is that. But it is similar to passing muster to bugs-control | 14:57 |
BluesKaj | guess I'm commited , but prolly not to the degree required , altho I'm on one of the kubuntu chat's almost every day, helping out. | 14:57 |
BUGabundo | great BluesKaj | 14:58 |
BUGabundo | if u have the guts to handle a denial, you could apply | 14:58 |
BUGabundo | u never ~know | 14:59 |
hggdh | there was a recent blog from seveas that talks about membership -- I will find it | 14:59 |
BUGabundo | with the +1 of some of kubuntu ninjas, it should be easier | 14:59 |
* ikonia points to the topic | 14:59 | |
BUGabundo | hggdh: WHAT? one link u dont have on hand? | 14:59 |
* Pici was about to do the same ^^ topic | 14:59 | |
BUGabundo | guys lets move this to anotjher place | 14:59 |
ikonia | thanks | 14:59 |
Pici | Don't forget that #ubuntu-offtopic exists, and you're all free to join | 15:00 |
* BUGabundo some one should mantain this # active... silence is death | 15:00 | |
* hggdh begs pardon | 15:00 | |
ikonia | BUGabundo: no it's not | 15:00 |
Pici | BUGabundo: It shouldnt be active if its not Karmic related | 15:00 |
BluesKaj | yeah, I know about being denied, handled a few lost promotions over the yrs :) | 15:00 |
BUGabundo | BluesKaj: hggdh #ubuntu-pt | 15:00 |
BUGabundo | BluesKaj: ping | 15:01 |
BluesKaj | BBL | 15:26 |
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blueyed | ALSA broken for anyone else? (this falls back to all-non-KDE apps then, since pulseaudio appears to use ALSA). Is there a workaround? | 16:00 |
rski | sounds works everywhere except in youtube for me | 16:01 |
BluesKaj | blueyed, what model soundcard ? | 16:01 |
BUGabundo | blueyed: KDE does not use PA | 16:01 |
blueyed | rski: youtube or flash? | 16:02 |
rski | flashmovies found on youtube | 16:02 |
blueyed | BluesKaj: some old SB16 (snd_emu10k1) | 16:02 |
blueyed | rski: but others work? | 16:02 |
rski | yes | 16:03 |
blueyed | BUGabundo: I know.. which is actually really nice currently. | 16:03 |
rski | for example google video | 16:03 |
rski | youporn etc | 16:03 |
rski | :) | 16:03 |
blueyed | rski: odd.. :) | 16:03 |
BUGabundo | couch couch | 16:03 |
rski | indeed | 16:04 |
BluesKaj | BUGabundo, wonders why pulseaudio is listed as 3rd preference in audio output devices | 16:04 |
BluesKaj | er I wonder why | 16:04 |
rski | so i have to use youtube-dl to watch them in mplayer all the time | 16:04 |
blueyed | odd. now it works again, after restating pulseaudio..! previously it would complain about "snd_pcm_avail() returned a value that is exceptionally large" during startup. | 16:05 |
BUGabundo | ahhh pulseaudio -k | 16:06 |
BUGabundo | thats lovelly magic words | 16:06 |
BUGabundo | blueyed: do u have both gnome and kde WM? | 16:07 |
blueyed | BUGabundo: yes. only using KDE though. | 16:07 |
BUGabundo | doesnt matter | 16:07 |
BUGabundo | installing the other will get u both packages | 16:08 |
BUGabundo | in this case PA | 16:08 |
blueyed | yes. bad thing? would e.g. firefox/flash not use PA if I hadn't it installed? (guess so..) | 16:08 |
BUGabundo | not bad thing. Should work (TM) | 16:09 |
blueyed | well, after all, I could purge pulseaudio.. will try that the next time it causes problems. | 16:09 |
BUGabundo | no idea what flash does | 16:09 |
BUGabundo | its Closed Source | 16:09 |
blueyed | if Kubuntu does not install PA, it should work without probably., | 16:10 |
BUGabundo | AFAIK kiling and re-spwaing PA, doesnt work very well for FLASH | 16:10 |
BluesKaj | locate pulseaudio : /usr/lib/xine/plugins/1.26/xineplug_ao_out_pulseaudio.so | 16:17 |
BluesKaj | I don't have gnome installed , so where did that come from , obviously a plugin for xine | 16:18 |
Pici | BluesKaj: Its in the libxine1-misc-plugins package. | 16:20 |
Pici | see: apt-file search /usr/lib/xine/plugins/1.26/xineplug_ao_out_pulseaudio.so | 16:20 |
BluesKaj | yup | 16:21 |
FLjohn | ok | 18:43 |
FLjohn | can not get into buzzen chat | 18:43 |
Pici | Eh? | 18:45 |
Pici | okay then | 18:45 |
RichardWolfVI | hey | 19:52 |
RichardWolfVI | it seems I messed up my packages | 19:53 |
RichardWolfVI | I guess I have to reinstall all ubuntu-desktop | 19:53 |
RichardWolfVI | main problem, mi coonection doesn't work | 19:53 |
RichardWolfVI | I'm using my old Intrepid Live CD in order to download the Alpha 1 iso | 19:54 |
RichardWolfVI | Can you give me instructions on mounting the ISO and using apt-cdrom to repair my packages? | 19:55 |
maxb | RichardWolfVI: You'll need to be a lot more specific about the nature of your breakage if anyone is going to be able to help. | 19:58 |
BluesKaj | RichardWolfVI, alt+f2 kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list , and take out the # thats' in front of the deb cdrom ...source , save and then in the terminal do : sudo apt-get update | 19:59 |
RichardWolfVI | maxb: I noticed a lot of packages in the local/obsolete section | 20:00 |
RichardWolfVI | I removed them | 20:00 |
RichardWolfVI | Now I know I shouldn't | 20:00 |
RichardWolfVI | BluesKaj: I'm not using KDE | 20:00 |
RichardWolfVI | GDNM is gone | 20:00 |
RichardWolfVI | *GDM | 20:00 |
RichardWolfVI | I can't even have a graphical session | 20:01 |
maxb | RichardWolfVI: You are getting the alternate iso, not the desktop one, right? | 20:02 |
RichardWolfVI | maxb: Well, it's the only one I see from the site | 20:04 |
maxb | What is the filename you are downloading, then? | 20:04 |
RichardWolfVI | apart from server | 20:04 |
RichardWolfVI | kermic-alternative-i386.iso | 20:04 |
maxb | good | 20:05 |
acicula | cant get a prompt in rescue mode either? | 20:05 |
RichardWolfVI | acicula: yes, I can | 20:05 |
maxb | loopmount it, add a source to sources.list using a file: URL, and apt-get update | 20:05 |
acicula | then why mess around with a cd? | 20:06 |
RichardWolfVI | well, I need more precise instructions for it | 20:06 |
RichardWolfVI | hmm, I'm on a LiveCD right now | 20:06 |
RichardWolfVI | acicula: Network. Dead. | 20:06 |
acicula | wireless? | 20:06 |
RichardWolfVI | acicula: yes | 20:07 |
acicula | ah yeah that's a pain, dunno if you can work networkmanager via a cli | 20:07 |
RichardWolfVI | is a desktop computer, so I'm not moving it | 20:07 |
RichardWolfVI | is there a way to burn the iso easily? | 20:09 |
RichardWolfVI | from commandline, I mean | 20:09 |
spaceBARbarian | is there anything new over jaunty in the dail builds ? | 20:09 |
acicula | some updated software | 20:09 |
RichardWolfVI | Gnome 2.27 and Kernel 2.6.30 | 20:10 |
RichardWolfVI | mainly | 20:10 |
RichardWolfVI | Oh, and the intel driver | 20:10 |
RichardWolfVI | 2.7 | 20:10 |
acicula | appearantly that's been backported to jaunty as well | 20:10 |
maxb | RichardWolfVI: why would you burn the iso? | 20:10 |
RichardWolfVI | maxb: I though on using apt-cdrom | 20:11 |
spaceBARbarian | k thks | 20:11 |
maxb | That shouldn't be necessary. | 20:11 |
RichardWolfVI | well | 20:12 |
RichardWolfVI | I guess I'm saving the iso to the thumbdrive | 20:12 |
RichardWolfVI | or is there a way to save it directly to the HDD? | 20:12 |
maxb | You can mount an iso as a directory | 20:12 |
RichardWolfVI | yeah, but I'm not command savvy | 20:13 |
RichardWolfVI | mount image.iso /directory -o loop, right? | 20:13 |
maxb | indeed | 20:13 |
RichardWolfVI | then I add to /etc/sources.lst the line file://directory | 20:14 |
RichardWolfVI | right? | 20:14 |
maxb | yes | 20:15 |
RichardWolfVI | nothing else? | 20:15 |
maxb | why, what did you expect? :-) | 20:15 |
RichardWolfVI | well, if these are the exact commands | 20:15 |
RichardWolfVI | Which directories in the Ubuntu filesystem are not restricted? | 20:46 |
hggdh | RichardWolfVI, what do you mean by "are not restricted"? | 20:47 |
RichardWolfVI | hggdh: I'm downloading a file from a LiveCD | 20:48 |
hggdh | and? | 20:48 |
RichardWolfVI | i need to copy that File to my Hard Drive | 20:48 |
RichardWolfVI | which has ubuntu | 20:48 |
hggdh | ah, OK. /tmp is always a good place | 20:48 |
RichardWolfVI | hggdh: It won't be gone at restart? | 20:50 |
hggdh | well, yes. Then you should use your own home directory, for example | 20:51 |
RichardWolfVI | hggdh: I mean, I'm on LiveCD right now | 20:52 |
RichardWolfVI | I need to copy a ISO file to my hard drive | 20:52 |
RichardWolfVI | so I can get to start Karmic from there and mount that ISO | 20:52 |
hggdh | then you first of all need to find out if your HD is already mounted, and then find a directory there where you can copy the files in (or create one such) | 20:52 |
RichardWolfVI | The drive is mounted | 20:53 |
RichardWolfVI | I don't know which directory is free tio ude | 20:53 |
RichardWolfVI | *use | 20:53 |
RichardWolfVI | *to | 20:54 |
RichardWolfVI | my /home/me directory in my HDD is not | 20:54 |
hggdh | RichardWolfVI, run na 'ls -l' on your hard drive | 20:58 |
RichardWolfVI | hggdh: I don't where it's locates | 21:00 |
RichardWolfVI | *located | 21:00 |
hggdh | RichardWolfVI, *probably* under /media, somewhere | 21:00 |
RichardWolfVI | nope, it isn't | 21:01 |
RichardWolfVI | nm, I found it | 21:01 |
hggdh | also "mount" should show it, if it is mounted | 21:01 |
RichardWolfVI | OK, what shoul I look for | 21:01 |
RichardWolfVI | ? | 21:01 |
RichardWolfVI | *should | 21:02 |
setuid | Where is the place where I specify modules which must get unloaded at suspend/hibernation time, and reloaded when coming out of suspend/hibernation? | 21:02 |
setuid | I have to make sure ath_pci and sierra get unloaded before I go down, and reloaded when I come back up | 21:03 |
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RichardWolfVI | hggdh: what should I look for in the output? | 21:06 |
hggdh | RichardWolfVI, run a 'ls -l ' on your hard drive, and look for a directory with permissions compatible for your usage (something like 777, rwxrwxrxw) | 21:06 |
RichardWolfVI | none | 21:07 |
hggdh | OK. Try to create a file on your HD - for example, on a command line, run 'touch /<your HD mount point>/test | 21:08 |
RichardWolfVI | hmm I'm using /var/tmp | 21:11 |
hggdh | touch a file there, then run a 'ls -l' and see who owns the file | 21:11 |
RichardWolfVI | got | 21:12 |
RichardWolfVI | OK, I found aproper directory | 21:13 |
hggdh | good, and good luck now ;-) | 21:13 |
maxb | So, is all mdraid currently a bit broken in Karmic? | 21:35 |
maxb | (bug 377395) | 21:35 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 377395 in util-linux "[karmic] software RAID not assembled at boot - blkid hangs using 100% CPU" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/377395 | 21:35 |
maxb | It sounds like it should apply to all mdraid, but if so I am surprised there aren't more people talking about it. | 21:35 |
charlie-tca | Not that many outside of servers use it, maybe | 21:37 |
charlie-tca | I doubt that many servers are going to test the development version | 21:38 |
maxb | Huh. I use it for my homedir | 21:41 |
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yoasif | what package do i report against if my changing my brightness uses the old notifications? | 22:16 |
BUGabundo | holla UDSistas | 22:46 |
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