[00:16] <xteejx> That pedro guy that I see setting a lot of bug to Invalid from Incomplete is gonna have a lot of work to do soon after I'm through with all these package-assigned "New" bugs over a year old!!
[00:16] <BUGabundo> xteejx: pedro_ does a lot of bug triage
[00:17] <xteejx> BUGabundo: ohh right ok :)
[00:17] <charlie-tca> That pedro guy works for cannonical, doesn't he?
[00:17] <BUGabundo> charlie-tca: not sure
[00:17] <xteejx> dunno charlie, he's around a hell of a lot for a volunteer though
[00:18] <charlie-tca> He is one of the top qa guys, I think.
[00:18] <xteejx> well canonical got a few to look at when they get back from UDS then hehe ;)
[00:22] <charlie-tca> karma is 62310
[00:22] <xteejx> :o bloody hell
[00:23] <BUGabundo> ohhhhh
[00:23] <BUGabundo> beats me!!!
[00:23] <BUGabundo> gets close to seb128 and pitti
[00:23] <BUGabundo> lol
[00:23] <xteejx> im on 2-3k :) woohoo
[00:25]  * micahg is close to xteejx
[00:25]  * xteejx slaps micahg down lol
[00:26] <xteejx> charlie-tca: Pedro is canonical just checked
[00:27]  * micahg is trying for the top 20 bug contributors :)
[00:27] <charlie-tca> Thought he might be. He does know what he is doing with bugs
[00:27] <xteejx> anyway peeps im off for the night...laters :)P
[00:27] <charlie-tca> later
[00:53] <hggdh> yes, pedro is canonical
[02:21] <micahg> I missed it..is dapper no longer supportd?
[02:21] <micahg> nope
[02:21] <micahg> ...I guess it still is
[02:21] <micahg> jumped the gun...
[02:22] <Hellow> I think they dropped support for it (I think)
[02:23] <micahg> nope, desktop support until June 09
[02:23] <Hellow> next month :P
[02:24] <micahg> It wasn't on the wiki homepage, so I was curious
[02:24] <micahg> but server support is for 2 years beyond that
[02:54] <hggdh> its linked from the wiki (for the FULL release schedule, etc, etc)
[02:55] <micahg> hggdh: yeah, I saw that
[02:55] <micahg> after I already commented though
[02:55] <hggdh> over and out for the night, then. You all have a good one
[02:55] <micahg> night hggdh
[02:56] <hggdh> night, micahg
[06:35] <YoBoY> good morning
[06:40] <micahg> YoBoY: are you member or bug control?
[06:40] <YoBoY> member only
[06:40] <YoBoY> not ready in my mind to apply to bug control
[06:40] <micahg> that should have been of :)
[06:40] <micahg> can someone mark 228852 as triaged please
[06:41] <YoBoY> bug 228852
[06:41] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 228852 in firefox-3.0 "Mozilla Firefox F6 is buggy" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/228852
[06:41] <micahg> oops
[06:41] <micahg> meant to do that
[06:41]  * micahg needs sleep
[06:42] <micahg> I'll check in morning
[06:42] <micahg> thanks
[06:42] <YoBoY> strange....
[06:43] <YoBoY> the F6 key work like expected with the bookmark pannel :O
[06:44] <YoBoY> micahg: can you confimr that ↑↑ ?
[07:17] <indus> hi
[07:46] <xteejx> Morning all
[08:07] <xteejx> Is it possible to change Launchpad so that the reporter can select their version of the program, or apport gets invoked to collect it automatically, as there are so many bugs that could've been fixed in a newer version, every single person with XXXpackage-0.8.1 could be notified to update and test their bug in XXXpackage-0.8.2 ??
[08:12] <thekorn> hi xteejx
[08:12] <xteejx> hey thekorn
[08:12] <xteejx> morning/aftrenoon/evening
[08:12] <xteejx> hehe
[08:13] <thekorn> xteejx, I think apport does exactly what you are looking for
[08:13] <thekorn> xteejx, it checks for obsolete packages and fails to report the bug if an obsolete packes is found
[08:14] <xteejx> thekorn, does it?
[08:14] <xteejx> didnt know that
[08:15] <xteejx> thekorn, would still be helpful if the info was put in when it was reported, with info showing how to choose which version you have, then the janitor can notify people that the package is obsolete, they update, test again and re-open if its still a problem
[08:15] <xteejx> make sense?
[08:15] <xteejx> or WHEN it becomes obsolete if the bug report is missed for whatever reason
[08:16] <thekorn> xteejx, launchpad does not know anything about the package version for a bugreport
[08:17] <thekorn> there is no packageversion<->bug mapping in launchpad
[08:17] <xteejx> thekorn, exactly.....if it did, the janitor could sweep out or set incomplete to the "new" bugs, notify theres a new version and they need to update and re-open the bug report
[08:17] <xteejx> in other words test the newer version
[08:17] <Hobbsee> !sru
[08:18] <xteejx> sru? that isn't what i mean
[08:19] <xteejx> just thought it would be a good idea if launchpad was "aware" of package versions/statuses - janitor could then automate a lot of simple repetitive tasks
[08:21] <xteejx> or at least be able to select which version you're running, 7.04, 8.10, 9.04, whatever
[08:23] <xteejx> janitor >>>>> 7.10 bug >>> mark incomplete >>>> notify user the product has reached EOL and to uprade and retry bug >>>>>  have they replied yes/no >>>> usual 60 day removal if no >>>>> let them set status to new if yes
[08:23] <thekorn> the lack of features like this is a design decision by the launchpad team, I'm sure there are/were bugreports open about it
[08:23] <xteejx> i looked and haven't seen any reports about it
[08:24] <xteejx> oh well, was just an idea :)
[08:25] <thekorn> xteejx, bug 424 is one
[08:25] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 424 in malone "Bugs have no fields to specify package or product versions" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/424
[08:26] <xteejx> thekorn, must have missed that, but nice to see its at least being considered :)
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[14:11] <xteejx> hggdh lol
[15:02] <xteejx> anyone noticed that you cant play dvds without getting an error in totem-gstreamer in Jaunty?
[15:02] <xteejx> hggdh, have you seen this?
[15:04] <hggdh> xteejx, no, I do not play DVDs...
[15:04] <xteejx> hggdh, ahh ok
[15:04]  * BUGabundo wonders if hggdh plays guitar
[15:04] <xteejx> can anyone confirm this, i just wanna know i'm not going mad
[15:04] <davmor2> xteejx: what's the fault
[15:04] <BUGabundo> no me
[15:05] <xteejx> playing dvds in totem crashes it
[15:05] <xteejx> normal install with restricted-extras nothing else
[15:05] <davmor2> xteejx: Are they encoded dvd's ie bought ones?
[15:05] <xteejx> yeah, macrovision copyright
[15:06] <davmor2> xteejx: I think dvdcss2 got dropped
[15:06] <xteejx> WHAT!??
[15:06] <davmor2> so you may have to install it manually
[15:06] <xteejx> Package libdvdcss2 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[15:06] <xteejx> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[15:06] <xteejx> is only available from another source
[15:07] <BUGabundo> !medibuntu
[15:07] <ubot4`> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[15:07] <davmor2> xteejx: Ubuntu is starting to err on the side of caution, due to MS's latest round of patent claims
[15:07] <BUGabundo> or being built with a script available on /usr
[15:07] <xteejx> what about all the people coming from M$?
[15:07] <davmor2> BUGabundo: script is removed now
[15:08] <BUGabundo> davmor2: that too? damn
[15:08] <xteejx> i was confused....but it shouldnt crash totem
[15:08] <BUGabundo> didnt see anything on any ML i'm in or release notes
[15:08] <davmor2> that was a debian thing though I believe instead it points you to where you can go and download it
[15:09] <BUGabundo> yep
[15:09] <xteejx> who are you 2 talking to i'm confused?
[15:09] <BUGabundo> it was a scritp with a wget
[15:09] <BUGabundo> and then a build sequence
[15:09] <BUGabundo> to an external server
[15:09] <BUGabundo> xteejx: davmor2  is talking to me
[15:09] <BUGabundo> so the same subject
[15:09] <xteejx> oh right hehe
[15:10] <davmor2> BUGabundo: I know I used to use it now medibuntu to the rescue
[15:10] <xteejx> pidgin is allowed to use the MSN butterfly logo, whats the harm in a little dvd decryption??
[15:11] <hggdh> legal issues
[15:11] <BUGabundo> its not ilegal in portugal
[15:11] <BUGabundo> YAY
[15:11] <xteejx> i.e. canonical not paying for patent??
[15:11] <hggdh> well, it is illegal in a series of countries
[15:12] <hggdh> so there
[15:12] <xteejx> simple way round that though isnt there, put a notice on with agree/disagree
[15:12] <xteejx> its illegal here in the UK I know that much
[15:12] <davmor2> xteejx: you can't patent a logo that's copy right.  However you can patent a dvd encryption method
[15:12] <BUGabundo> we have codec buddy
[15:12] <BUGabundo> ppl can legally buy it
[15:13] <xteejx> its just an annoyance, it crashes with no explanation, or workaround instructions :(
[15:14] <xteejx> ps no flaming me i HATE M$
[15:14] <hggdh> then *this* is a bug -- it should state it is missing a library
[15:15] <hggdh> and this is not MS, but the recording industry & their offshots
[15:15] <xteejx> i doubt microshaft are helping....
[15:15] <hggdh> (and the DCMA, in the US)
[15:15] <BUGabundo> hggdh: it used to alert to missing the codec on hardy
[15:15] <BUGabundo> but its missing on ii and jj
[15:15] <xteejx> BUGabundo: i remember that
[15:15] <hggdh> so... regression
[15:15] <davmor2> xteejx: MS can't legally play a dvd either you need a third party app or mediacenter which is an extra cost due to the extra patent stuff MS have to buy in
[15:15] <BUGabundo> an one year regression?
[15:15] <BUGabundo> there's a already a bug for II
[15:15] <BUGabundo> not sure for JJ
[15:16] <xteejx> tere are aport reports for it
[15:16] <hggdh> then we need an "also affects" for the current bug
[15:16] <xteejx> damn keyboard **apport reports
[15:16] <xteejx> itll probably affect karmic as well
[15:17] <xteejx> i know it doesnt look like a big bug, but it is a regression nonetheless, and ok its not a core feature i suppose, but its something that should deinitely be addressed methinks :)
[15:18] <davmor2> xteejx: you can always go down this route http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=243&osCsid=c39d7eced0a1b9d232032dfd49a4ef4c
[15:18] <xteejx> page not found lol
[15:19] <xteejx> £31.55 for a dvd burning app? i left windows for a reason lol
[15:19] <davmor2> xteejx: works here.  It's not it's a dvd player :P
[15:20] <xteejx> no worries medibuntu it is then
[15:20] <xteejx> ohh hehe
[15:20] <xteejx> i have a dvd player under my telly, cost me £12 in tesco ;)
[15:20] <davmor2> in fact the same one that is bundled on most pcs including I believe laptops from Dell with Ubuntu on to get round this very issue :)
[15:21] <xteejx> i assume dell pay for the licensing
[15:23]  * BUGabundo i wonder how long medibuntu will keep it up until cease and decease....
[15:23] <BUGabundo> xteejx: yep dell pays for it
[15:23] <BUGabundo> as do many others OEMs
[15:23] <xteejx> hmmm
[15:24] <mr_pouit> BUGabundo: 3 years already...
[15:34] <BUGabundo> mr_pouit: already?
[15:34] <BUGabundo> does anyone have the bug ?
[15:34] <BUGabundo> i'm not on my laptop
[16:52] <bencrisford_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/378692 - can anyone here translate that please?
[16:52] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 378692 in firefox-3.0 "componenti aggiuntivi" [Undecided,New]
[16:53] <BUGabundo> humm italian?
[16:53] <BUGabundo> let me see if i can help
[16:54] <BUGabundo> bencrisford_: just asked on #ubuntu-it for some one to help out
[16:54] <YoBoY> it's saying the browser bother him with the install of the flash plugin... i think it's a support request
[16:55] <bencrisford_> google thought it was portugese BUGabundo
[16:55] <YoBoY> but i'm not italian :p
[16:55] <BUGabundo> send to answer then ?
[16:55] <BUGabundo> bencrisford_: it isnt
[16:55] <bencrisford_> oh :P
[16:55] <bencrisford_> ah
[16:55] <BUGabundo> both me and YoBoY can state that
[16:55] <BUGabundo> eheh
[16:55] <bencrisford_> im thinking of different bug
[16:55] <YoBoY> yep i can state it's not portuguese :)
[16:55] <bencrisford_> i had a portugese one earlier
[16:56] <YoBoY> i can state it's not french also :D
[16:56] <YoBoY> by the way the " LANG=it_IT.UTF-8" is a good indicator...
[16:57] <BUGabundo> almost got kicked from #-it .... lol
[16:57] <YoBoY> awesome :D
[16:57] <BUGabundo> they redirected me to #ubuntu
[16:57] <YoBoY> good community :D
[16:57] <bencrisford_> ah :P
[16:57]  * bencrisford_ can state it isnt english :D
[16:58] <YoBoY> i want to see that :D
[17:00] <unutbu> According to google translate: when you open a browser window containing images to esempi0 www.libero.it is required that you must install add-ins (flash player), even after I installed and you go on other pages again is always required that the page requires additional components. If one installs them is the inscription segenti the components are already installed! Ubuntu 9.4
[17:00] <BUGabundo> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/176496/
[17:01] <BUGabundo> here is the translation bencrisford_
[17:01] <BUGabundo> ahhh old bug on FF
[17:01] <BUGabundo> those lazy guys on #ubuntu-mozillateam never fix stuff
[17:01] <BUGabundo> :)
[17:01] <bencrisford_> :P
[17:03] <BUGabundo> ok, commented on the bug
[17:03] <BUGabundo> now to find the original and dupe it
[17:03] <BUGabundo> bencrisford_: want to finish up ?
[17:04] <bencrisford_> finish the bug?
[17:04] <bencrisford_> youve done most of the work, you might as well take the credit :)
[17:04] <bencrisford_> unless you want me to?
[17:05] <bencrisford_> BUGabundo: ?
[17:05] <BUGabundo> bencrisford_: dont care
[17:06] <BUGabundo> looking for the dupe will take u some time
[17:06] <BUGabundo> and u will find many extra to dupe toghere
[17:06] <BUGabundo> last time i did it, got 4
[17:06] <BUGabundo> not on my laptop, dont know the Master bug
[17:07] <bencrisford_> lol we could get the #ubuntu-mozillateam to do it
[17:07] <bencrisford_> its down to them there is a bug
[17:08] <bencrisford_> so its their fault BUGabundo :P
[17:08] <BUGabundo> bencrisford_: none of them are there
[17:08] <BUGabundo> asac: is travelling, fta is busy, gnomefreak is having surgery
[17:08] <bencrisford_> oh
[17:08] <BUGabundo> not sure micahg  is avaliable
[17:08] <bencrisford_> maybe their ChanServ could help us?
[17:08] <BUGabundo> i'll help ok!
[17:08] <micahg> what;s the bug @?
[17:08] <micahg> #?
[17:09] <BUGabundo> let me see if google know the master
[17:09] <BUGabundo> micahg: hey. trying to find the master bug for flash failing to install and request over and over
[17:09] <micahg> ah, was looking for that myself actually :)
[17:10] <bencrisford_> we should all race :P
[17:10] <bencrisford_> put bets on who'll find it first
[17:10] <BUGabundo> eheh
[17:10] <BUGabundo> google is empty for me
[17:10] <BUGabundo> but i lack the google search mojo
[17:14] <micahg> are we looking for bug 326609?
[17:14] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 326609 in ubufox "[MASTER] No flash in firefox after upgrade from intrepid to jaunty" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/326609
[17:14] <BUGabundo> not sure
[17:14] <BUGabundo> users doesnt mention upgrade
[17:14] <BUGabundo> we could ask
[17:15] <bencrisford_> BUGabundo: How's your C++ skills btw?
[17:15] <BUGabundo> just asked for it
[17:15] <BUGabundo> bencrisford_: humm why ?
[17:15] <micahg> what's' the original bug?
[17:15] <BUGabundo> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/378692
[17:15] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 378692 in firefox-3.0 "componenti aggiuntivi" [Undecided,New]
[17:16] <BUGabundo> LP is slow
[17:16] <BUGabundo> it should be incomplete
[17:16] <bencrisford_> BUGabundo: I drifted onto your wiki page to find you have an interest in networking and voip, which leads me to believe you might be able to assist with spux project...
[17:16] <BUGabundo> shoot
[17:17] <micahg> BUGabundo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubufox/+bug/326609/comments/7
[17:17] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 326609 in ubufox "[MASTER] No flash in firefox after upgrade from intrepid to jaunty" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[17:18] <BUGabundo> lets wait for the user
[17:18] <BUGabundo> if its upgrade, then mark as dupe
[17:18] <BUGabundo> bencrisford_: are u subed to it already?
[17:21] <micahg> I think that the problem might be the flashplugin package
[17:21] <micahg> It doesn't verify that the file is installed
[17:21] <BUGabundo> maybe
[17:32] <BUGabundo> does any one remember a bug, where installing a network card driver update on windows, left ubuntu not able to connect ?
[17:33] <BUGabundo> i recall something about realtek and W7 or vista SPs
[18:04] <bencrisford__> hggdh: Hi :)
[18:05] <hggdh> hi bencrisford__
[18:09]  * bencrisford_ trying to sort his wiki page for membership meeting next month :(, dodgy internet dont help >:(
[21:27] <showard1> Hi - can a BugControl member look at bug #378601 and set it to public (if it is clean)? I've been working with him on bug #368681 and asked him to use apport on a crash.
[21:27] <ubot4`> showard1: Bug 378601 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/378601 is private
[21:27] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 368681 in openoffice.org "openoffice 2.4 - 3.0 crash after creating curve" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/368681
[21:29] <hggdh> showard1, a sec
[21:29] <showard1> thanks hggdh
[21:31] <hggdh> showard1, done. There does not seem to be any private data there. Also, the stcktrace is a bit incomplete...
[21:37] <micahg> hggdh: can you mark bug 228852 triaged?
[21:37] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 228852 in firefox-3.0 "Mozilla Firefox F6 is buggy" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/228852
[21:37] <hggdh> micahg, getting there
[21:38] <hggdh> micahg, done. You keep on making a dent on tomorrow's hugday ;-)
[21:38] <micahg> I'm trying :)
[21:39] <micahg> but there's still a lot on that list
[21:39] <micahg> there are probably a few that I touched that are still waiting on answers
[21:39] <hggdh> keep on, keep on :-) we all thank you for your work
[21:39] <micahg> but I don't think it's worthwhile for me to go back and try to find them all
[21:39] <hggdh> micahg, you should now consider applying for -control
[21:39] <micahg> I figure the time is better spent traiging new stuff
[21:40] <micahg> asac said he was going to take care of it when he sees the people in charge
[21:40] <micahg> I need to make a wiki page now :)
[21:40] <hggdh> micahg, you already have my +1. You should really consider it!
[21:41] <micahg> thank you hggdh, you've been a great help to me in learning the ropes
[21:42] <hggdh> you are welcome. And thank YOU for the help. We really appreciate.
[21:44] <micahg> I can't seem to find anyone who wants to participate in the hugday though
[21:44] <micahg> the last one didn't seem to go so well
[21:44] <micahg> at least from the ones listed on the wiki
[21:46] <charlie-tca> and my announcement is hung awaiting moderator approval, too
[21:46] <charlie-tca> happens every time I have to send to ubuntu-devel-announce
[21:47] <hggdh> heh
[21:47] <hggdh> bureaucracy is bureaucracy anywhere
[21:48] <micahg> which set of bugs am I better off leaving for others (New, Incomplete, or Confirmed)?
[21:50] <hggdh> micahg, any of them. But the confirmed ones usually will require an upstream task, which may be more complex
[21:50] <micahg> ah, so those are the ones that I'll try to tackle tonight
[22:04] <micahg> Also, if I think something belongs in another package right now, I'm just moving it since I don't have the triaging knowledge for all of Ubuntu yet
[22:04] <micahg> is that bad?
[22:04] <micahg> I feel my time is better spent with the stuff I know
[22:05] <hggdh> no, not really. If you think the assigned package is wrong, reset it, and add a comment on why you did it
[22:05] <micahg> ok
[22:05] <micahg> cool
[22:05] <micahg> I've done that a few times over the past few days
[22:07] <hggdh> bug 378826
[22:07] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 378826 in ubuntu "JAUNTY JUST DOESN'T WORK AT ALL" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/378826
[22:07] <hggdh> heh
[22:09] <charlie-tca> Now there's a bug...
[22:09] <charlie-tca> another one thinks launchpad bugs is the forums?
[22:10] <hggdh> I guess so... I actually think we should close it invalid...
[22:10] <micahg> Convert to Q?
[22:10] <hggdh> no, the reporter explicitly states "no contacts"
[22:10] <charlie-tca> invalid is all you can do
[22:11] <micahg> Convert to Q and remove user as subscriber?
[22:12] <charlie-tca> no convert to question. Just becomes invalid. It is not a bug or a question. It is just a comment
[22:12] <hggdh> nope, don't think so. I am going to close it...
[22:12] <micahg> ok
[22:12] <micahg> :)
[22:12] <micahg> I'm itching to use that feature
[22:12] <micahg> when I started traiging I used it a lot
[22:12] <micahg> but then I stopped
[22:14] <hggdh> done
[22:14] <micahg> still cordial, nice...
[22:15] <hggdh> you are always nice -- remember it is (for all that matters) a mitzvah
[22:15] <micahg> I know
[22:15] <hggdh> :-) I knew you would
[22:15] <micahg> but you seemed extra nice in that post
[22:16] <micahg> it's good
[22:16] <micahg> it's an attitude worth emulating
[22:16] <hggdh> I always try to be nice. There is always another side to any story
[22:16] <micahg> I think I found me a PHP bug though :)
[22:16] <hggdh> and -- we can hope -- by being nice, one day the reporter will return
[22:17] <charlie-tca> Nicer than me. I just state based on above comments, bug is closed
[22:17] <hggdh> heh
[22:46] <BUGabundo> holla UDSistas