[00:00] yeap [00:00] 1 min [00:00] #startmeeting [00:00] Meeting started at 18:00. The chair is bodhi_zazen. [00:00] Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] [00:00] :) [00:01] [LINK]https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/Meetings [00:01] LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/Meetings [00:01] [TOPIC] elections [00:01] New Topic: elections [00:02] last meeting we discussed elections of the FG leads [00:02] is this something the team is interested in ? [00:02] +1 [00:02] Or shall we allow bodhi_zazen to appoint ? [00:02] +1 [00:02] +1 [00:02] I prefer appointments [00:02] appointments [00:03] Should we vote ? [00:03] Is there anybody out there who wants to be a lead who currently isn't? If not, then it's a moot point [00:03] am i allowed to speak/agree/dissagree? [00:03] yes MontelEdwards [00:03] shweet [00:04] [VOTE] Elections ? +1 == elections -1 = appointment by bz [00:04] Please vote on: Elections ? +1 == elections -1 = appointment by bz. [00:04] Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to MootBot [00:04] E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-meeting [00:04] +0 [00:04] Abstention received from bodhi_zazen. 0 for, 0 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now 0 [00:04] +0 [00:04] -1 [00:04] -1 received from Snova. 0 for, 1 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now -1 [00:04] Abstention received from Rocket2DMn. 0 for, 1 against. 2 have abstained. Count is now -1 [00:04] -1 [00:04] -1 received from paultag. 0 for, 2 against. 2 have abstained. Count is now -2 [00:04] -1 [00:04] -1 received from thewrath. 0 for, 3 against. 2 have abstained. Count is now -3 [00:04] -1 [00:04] -1 received from Ash_R. 0 for, 4 against. 2 have abstained. Count is now -4 [00:04] +1 [00:04] -1 [00:04] +1 received from faolan. 1 for, 4 against. 2 have abstained. Count is now -3 [00:04] -1 received from jamesrfla. 1 for, 5 against. 2 have abstained. Count is now -4 [00:04] +0 [00:04] Private +1 vote received. 2 for, 5 against, 2 have abstained. Count is now -3 [00:04] Abstention received from PartyBoi2. 2 for, 5 against. 3 have abstained. Count is now -3 [00:04] -1 [00:04] -1 received from lukjad007. 2 for, 6 against. 3 have abstained. Count is now -4 [00:04] +0 [00:04] Abstention received from ds305. 2 for, 6 against. 4 have abstained. Count is now -4 [00:05] +1 [00:05] -1 [00:05] -1 received from swoody. 2 for, 7 against. 4 have abstained. Count is now -5 [00:05] +1 [00:05] +1 received from duanedesign. 3 for, 7 against. 4 have abstained. Count is now -4 [00:05] Anyone else ? [00:05] +0 [00:05] Abstention received from sdennie. 3 for, 7 against. 5 have abstained. Count is now -4 [00:05] I thought we were going to be using votebot still for voting? [00:05] [ENDVOTE] [00:05] Final result is 3 for, 7 against. 5 abstained. Total: -4 [00:06] Votebot == too slow >:) [00:06] ok [00:06] we voted at last meeting to use Mootbot [00:06] OK, well that makes this meeting much shorter then :) [00:06] Haha [00:06] :) [00:07] Lets run the teams :) [00:07] sounds good [00:07] learning / education ? [00:07] Vantrax: poke :) [00:07] lrn2work [00:07] Vantrax|Work, good timing - anythin gto say on education fg? [00:07] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Learning/ [00:07] busy busy busy [00:08] We are going to present out project to the CC on June 2nd [00:08] trip to community council soon, then a big announcment [00:08] bodhi_zazen, nice little packaged management tutorial :D [00:08] so if you have the time to support the idea, awesome [00:08] Cool, good luck! [00:08] Though, you should update a little more often [00:08] >.> [00:08] work checking the link there, at the bottom is a series of links on programs for you all to give your input [00:08] link st33med ? [00:08] nice wiki for the education fg [00:09] I am working on the server [00:09] trying to decide [00:09] bodhi_zazen, eh? I was talking about your work in your education class [00:09] apache vs lighttpd ? [00:09] sounds like an interesting project [00:09] mysql vs postrad ? [00:09] jamesrfla, that wiki isnt for the edu fg, the project is outside the BT, but the education FG is one of the primary contributors [00:09] bodhi_zazen: will you be hosting it at your house? [00:09] Oh, thanks st33med :) [00:09] no james [00:10] its colocated on an isp line [00:10] You said you updated every three months on your server >.> [00:10] bodhi_zazen, i bet pleia2 could have some good input for you on that [00:10] we have a new domain as well [00:10] ufbt.net [00:10] bodhi_zazen: you could if you had Oc.1 [00:10] OK [00:10] o/ [00:10] IRC FG ? [00:10] jamesrfla, this is not talk for the meeting :) bring it to -uf-begin [00:10] bodhi_zazen, Hola [00:10] So, I am talking over for Joeb on the IRC front [00:10] [TOPIC]IRC FG [00:10] New Topic: IRC FG [00:10] team page if anyone is interested https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-learning [00:11] I am looking to start expanding the IRC team a bit, working to include more people and help integrate more with the wider ubuntu community [00:11] paultag: update wiki pages please :) [00:11] We will be looking for interested members, and yes bodhi_zazen, I'll get to updating :) [00:11] any questions? [00:11] [TOPIC] Wiki FG [00:11] New Topic: Wiki FG [00:11] yes hi [00:12] Just to let you all know, the 2009 Summer of Documentation has started! [00:12] If you're interested in helping, please talk to me after the meeting. All contributions are welcome. [00:12] that is all :) [00:12] oh bodhi_zazen: could we talk a little about the new team domain? [00:13] i mean, later [00:13] yes MontelEdwards [00:13] later on in the meeting** [00:13] [TOPIC] Any other FG ? [00:13] New Topic: Any other FG ? [00:14] yes. i have a query [00:14] I would like to limit the discussion to major FG / updates ;) [00:14] What about the Stalker FG >.> [00:14] Forums are awwesome, thanks everyone :) [00:14] go Ash_R [00:14] The Stalker FG, it if existed, has no updates. [00:14] riiiiight [00:14] :) [00:14] st33med: I can neither confirm or deny the presence of Stalkers [00:14] what happened to the discussion about the euro/asian fg? i have not heard anything for a while [00:15] [00:15] I am in favor Ash_R [00:15] but I do not know if it came together [00:15] the point is to have meetings / discussions at alternate times [00:15] I saw lots of emails about it in my inbox :) [00:15] i would like to help set it up, if possible [00:15] I do not know if there is enough interest [00:15] coordinate with forest :) [00:16] What would happen if one FG came to one decision, but the other came to a radically differing one? [00:16] I would like to see it, primarily as a means of communication and involving regions outside of the US [00:16] bodhi_zazen is the king, he decides [00:16] Just wondering. [00:16] lukjad007: having a euro/asian fg would require somebody who attends the normal meetings [00:16] to attend the other meetings [00:16] yes, forest was going to coordinate [00:16] Joeb454 Well, I guess that makes sense [00:17] the point would be to allow the FG lead to vote by proxy as well ;) [00:17] i intend to try and go to both. [00:17] Joeb454 The next meeting is Friday, right? [00:17] any other FG ? [00:17] lukjad007: for what? =/ [00:17] Forum council [00:17] * lukjad007 is getting mixed up with all the acronyms [00:18] swoody: poke [00:18] * thewrath same here [00:18] [TOPIC] NUN [00:18] Alphabet soup, anyone? [00:18] New Topic: NUN [00:18] heya bodhi_zazen :) [00:18] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu#New%20User%20Network [00:18] NUN = dead [00:18] bodhi_zazen, shun! [00:18] The NUN have disbanded and are all but extinct [00:19] +1 for replacing :) [00:19] w/ UFBT [00:19] Delete@! [00:19] Do we have authority to replace that team? Who founded and coordinated it? [00:19] bodhi_zazen: +1 [00:19] UFBT replace NUN [00:19] [ACTION] bodhi_zazen to appoint FG leads [00:19] ACTION received: bodhi_zazen to appoint FG leads [00:19] [VOTE] Replace NUN with UFBT ? [00:19] Please vote on: Replace NUN with UFBT ?. [00:19] Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to MootBot [00:19] E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-meeting [00:19] I had emailed both people listed as 'moderators' for the team, but no response from either one of them [00:19] +1 [00:19] +1 received from jamesrfla. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1 [00:19] + [00:19] +1 [00:19] +1 received from Vantrax|Work. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2 [00:19] +1 [00:19] +1 received from st33med. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3 [00:20] +1 [00:20] I am not sure we need to ask permission, it is a wiki, just edit I would think [00:20] +1 [00:20] +1 received from swoody. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 4 [00:20] +1 received from duanedesign. 5 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 5 [00:20] +1 [00:20] +1 received from bodhi_zazen. 6 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 6 [00:20] +1 [00:20] +1 received from Ash_R. 7 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 7 [00:20] +1 [00:20] 0 [00:20] +1 received from lukjad007. 8 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 8 [00:20] Verify that we can first, maybe at the same CC meeting? [00:20] er [00:20] +0 [00:20] Abstention received from Joeb454. 8 for, 0 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now 8 [00:20] nun=none, right? [00:20] +0 [00:20] Abstention received from ds305. 8 for, 0 against. 2 have abstained. Count is now 8 [00:20] :P [00:20] NUN = New User Network [00:20] >.< [00:20] What was it? [00:20] I don't know much about what NUN or how we intend to replace it, but I like the sound of it [00:20] We can ask at June 2nd meeting ;) [00:20] +0 [00:20] Abstention received from nathangrubb. 8 for, 0 against. 3 have abstained. Count is now 8 [00:20] exactly what is says [00:20] I don [00:20] I never heard of it, so I don't like it [00:20] [ENDVOTE] [00:20] Final result is 8 for, 0 against. 3 abstained. Total: 8 [00:20] dont know anything aobut it [00:21] it lasted for a month or two [00:21] it seems to mirror beginners team purpose [00:21] Competition? [00:21] great idea, burned bright, and burned out fast [00:21] Was it by Grant A? XD [00:21] [ACTION] Replace NUN => UFBT -> ask at June 2nd meeting (we should add that to the CC agenda) [00:21] ACTION received: Replace NUN => UFBT -> ask at June 2nd meeting (we should add that to the CC agenda) [00:21] swoody: ^^ [00:21] Partyboi ? [00:22] no party here I see >:) [00:22] Ha [00:22] parti left [00:22] PARTY? [00:22] WHERE? [00:22] bodhi_zazen: you want me to bring it up on the 2nd? [00:22] lol st33med [00:22] st33med Two doors to the left [00:22] put it on the agenda if you would ? [00:22] sure thing :) [00:22] * st33med enters the room to find several whores on the bed [00:22] you can put it under my name :) [00:22] ... [00:22] I will bring it up [00:22] lmao st33med haha [00:23] [TOPIC] UFBT agenda to UFBT mailing list ? [00:23] New Topic: UFBT agenda to UFBT mailing list ? [00:23] bodhi_zazen: ok, will do :) [00:23] I would +1 that if someone wants to do it [00:23] 0 [00:23] personally , IMO, that is what we use a wiki page for [00:23] * lukjad007 rides the fence [00:23] bodhi_zazen: what would you have to do? [00:23] I think it should be up to whoever adds an item to the agenda - if they feel it should go to the list, then they can start the thread [00:23] and that is why one can subscribe to wiki pages >:) [00:23] generate an email based on wiki page [00:24] doesn't seem to hard [00:24] it would be a nice idea to sent it out the day before [00:25] So send a e-mail with the agenda on it. Would a like to the wiki meeting page work? [00:26] thats sn idea [00:26] As I said, I do not mind an email, but someone else will need to volunteer to generate the email :) [00:26] i like the idea [00:27] No bods ? [00:27] i vote wiki FG to do it:P [00:27] Bods poke :) [00:27] sorry lost power for a second [00:27] Vantrax|Work, i decline [00:27] I'm not doing other people's work for them [00:27] have stalking FG do it [00:27] duanedesign +1 [00:27] duanedesign: +1 [00:28] Carried [00:28] >:) [00:28] [Action] Email UFBT agenda to UFBT mailing list the day before if we have a volunteer to do it, otherwise subscribe to meeting page please :) [00:28] ACTION received: Email UFBT agenda to UFBT mailing list the day before if we have a volunteer to do it, otherwise subscribe to meeting page please :) [00:28] And I think that is it :) [00:28] any other agenda items ? [00:29] domain.... [00:29] [TOPIC] NEW MEMBERS [00:29] New Topic: NEW MEMBERS [00:29] My favourate part [00:29] TuxPurple has been nominated for membership :) [00:29] :) [00:29] hooray :) [00:29] -9000 [00:29] TuxPurple ! [00:29] bodhi_zazen: I might be able to do the volunteer job. I just need something to remind my self that I need to do but all I need is a note [00:29] j/k [00:29] He needs no introduction, he is a penguin, he's purple .... [00:29] +2 [00:29] +++ [00:29] thats almost as good as pink! [00:30] +10 [00:30] ha [00:30] +30 [00:30] anyone have any questions b4 we vote ? [00:30] link to wiki page? [00:30] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TuxPurple [00:30] can we have tazmanian devils in the team ;) [00:30] thanks [00:30] who is his master? [00:30] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TuxPurple [00:30] forest [00:30] TuxPurple do you promise to uphold the laws and regulations govern... [00:30] [LINK]https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TuxPurple [00:30] LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TuxPurple [00:30] Vantrax|Work, forestpixie [00:31] master = forest, who is not here :( [00:31] Ash_R: For the 2.6.29 kernel, the official icon was actually changed from a penguin to a tazmanian devil. [00:31] ... [00:31] if pixie thinks he's ready thats enough for me [00:31] [VOTE] TuxPurple for membership [00:31] Please vote on: TuxPurple for membership. [00:31] Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to MootBot [00:31] E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-meeting [00:31] +1 [00:31] +1 received from jamesrfla. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1 [00:31] +1 [00:31] +1 received from swoody. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2 [00:31] +1 [00:31] +1 received from sdennie. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3 [00:31] +1 [00:31] +1 received from Ash_R. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 4 [00:31] +2 [00:31] +1 [00:31] +1 received from Rocket2DMn. 5 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 5 [00:31] +1 [00:31] +1 [00:31] +1 received from Joeb454. 6 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 6 [00:31] +1 [00:31] +1 received from lukjad007. 7 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 7 [00:31] +1 received from bodhi_zazen. 8 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 8 [00:31] Private +1 vote received. 9 for, 0 against, 0 have abstained. Count is now 9 [00:31] +1 [00:31] +1 [00:31] +1 received from duanedesign. 10 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 10 [00:31] note... it was a tazmanian devil pretending to be a penguin [00:31] +1 [00:31] +1 received from st33med. 11 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 11 [00:31] +1 [00:31] +1 [00:31] +1 received from Vantrax|Work. 12 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 12 [00:31] +1 [00:32] lukjad007.... [00:32] Yes? [00:32] [ENDVOTE] [00:32] Final result is 12 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 12 [00:32] congratulations TuxPurple! [00:32] I just wanted to make sure he got a fair vote... [00:32] Congrats tuxlinux [00:32] [ACTION] Please welcome the Tux Purple :) [00:32] ACTION received: Please welcome the Tux Purple :) [00:32] thanks everyone :) [00:32] Congrats TuxPurple [00:32] cool, congrats! [00:32] hey TuxPurple [00:32] welcome [00:32] thank you :D [00:33] [TOPIC] ufbt.net [00:33] New Topic: ufbt.net [00:33] yes MontelEdwards ? [00:33] I registered a domain [00:33] how is ufbt going to be different from the wiki? what is its purpose? [00:34] will use it temp to host teh moodle project [00:34] ;) [00:34] Yes, i was thinking that we should brainstorm things for a homepage or either forwarding it to wiki, whatever team decides. [00:34] ah, i understand [00:35] +1 team ? [00:36] forward to wiki until we have a use for it id think [00:36] forward to wiki [00:36] I was going to park a home page soon, theme to match learning site ? [00:36] I think that a homepage would be nice, a list of members. Kinda a intro to the team [00:37] no, no, forward to UCLP [00:37] i thought we were going to use learn.ubuntu.com [00:37] bodhi_zazen, in that case sounds good [00:37] Any other topics ? [00:37] Rocket2DMn, we have to have something first:P [00:37] yeah, but why did we register ufbt.net? [00:37] we list team members on LP and I really do not want to duplicate work [00:38] If team members want a personal home page or something, I would host that [00:38] we could post Boudoir Photos of ourselves [00:38] bodhi_zazen: I will take the agenda e-mailing job. [00:38] +1 duanedesign :) [00:38] If team members want to practice / learn servers, I am offering VPS or cheap [00:38] this sounds an awfully lot like our wiki's [00:38] * MontelEdwards Rocket2DMn: had a free promo code for godaddy which he gave to bodhi_zazen [00:38] bodhi_zazen: how cheap? [00:39] 10 / month for 256 RAM + I think 5 Gb HD space [00:39] bodhi_zazen: I have been enjoying my VPSe a lot [00:39] + 10 for initial set up [00:39] and I will support you as time allows [00:39] bandwidth limits? [00:39] When you "grow up" , fivebean is probably a better deal [00:40] like if your dumb enough to shut off your ssh server:) [00:40] total of 500 Gb / month [00:40] fivebean :) all hail u-g! [00:40] divided , so I am asking team not to abuse it [00:40] bodhi_zazen: pay via paypal? [00:40] yes, I can send a requst for payment via paypal [00:40] contact me if you are interested [00:41] 256 Mb is a ton with VPS ;) [00:41] thats enough to run just about anything [00:41] k [00:41] bodhi_zazen: would we be able to do stuff with apache,. etc? [00:41]