[00:03] <Seeker`> !compiz
[00:03] <Seeker`> !compiz =~ s/#compiz-fusion/#compiz/
[00:29] <LjL> fun.
[00:29] <Seeker`> yup
[00:31] <LjL> gnnnn with sebsebseb having to have the last word
[00:31] <Seeker`> mathyboy is a troll i think
[00:31] <LjL> meagrees
[00:39] <LjL> i got a PM from qubits, fwiw
[00:39] <Seeker`> what did it say?
[00:39] <LjL> asked me how i am, and whether i'm a chanop.
[01:00] <Flannel> He's also advertising another IRC channel
[01:00] <Flannel> er, network
[01:01] <Flannel> well, was.
[01:47] <Flannel> Howdy Ampelbein, how can we help you today?
[01:47] <Ampelbein> hello again. i think nuku-nuku in #ubuntu-motu is a bot.
[01:49] <Ampelbein> Flannel: i think we don't need two bots in one channel and considering that nuku-nuku seems not to be an "official" one, it should be removed
[01:49] <Ampelbein> Flannel: or should i go to #ubuntu-bots for that?
[01:50] <Flannel> Ampelbein: No, this would be an appropriate place.  I just don't have access to -motu
[01:50] <LjL> i muted it.
[01:50] <Ampelbein> Ljl, Flannel thanks for the fast reaction.
[01:51] <Ampelbein> bye then.
[01:52] <Flannel> I don't see who it belongs to
[01:53] <LjL> no idea here either. i went for a mute in case it's benign.
[01:54]  * Pici is asking in -women, as it seems to be there too
[01:55] <LjL> Pici: i should have guessed from the realname
[02:08] <elky> LjL, you still have access in -motu?
[02:08] <elky> so you do...
[02:08] <LjL> elky: yes i have access by nickname
[02:13] <Pici> elky: you're on early...
[02:13] <elky> Pici, wagged work since i had a plumber coming to fix a toilet.
[02:13] <Pici> elky: is its birthday?
[02:13] <elky> heh
[02:21] <elky> ban evading again.
[02:21] <LjL> fyi, "l0wrd" expressed the intention to ban evade after ctcp versioning the channel
[02:23] <elky> vertix, are you going to speak comprehensibly today?
[02:23] <vertix> for what?
[02:23] <vertix> :--}
[02:24] <elky> you know why
[02:24] <vertix> can you tell me why ikonia is following me around and joining all  the channels I join?
[02:24] <elky> vertix, he's always been in those channels.
[02:24] <vertix> what seems to be his concern since I started speaking about this rootkit thing?
[02:24] <vertix> nope
[02:24] <vertix> and I know that for fact
[02:25] <vertix> cause I did some testing :--(
[02:25] <elky> we already know you're a liar.
[02:25] <vertix> :0
[02:25] <vertix> HOW do you know?
[02:25] <elky> since we were not born yesterday.
[02:25] <vertix> so far, I know YOU are liars
[02:25] <vertix> impressive
[02:26] <vertix> so, what's is happening in the lands of "power"?
[02:26] <LjL> got any on-topic questions?
[02:26] <vertix> :-
[02:26] <elky> LjL, i doubt it.
[02:26] <vertix> what would you like to discuss?
[02:26] <vertix> -:
[02:27] <vertix> may be Osho?
[02:27] <Pici> Excuse me?
[02:27] <vertix> I see
[02:27] <vertix> not surprising
[02:27] <elky> this is not a chat channel.
[02:27] <vertix> well, then tell me the results of that investigation of yours on that totally phony ban
[02:28] <vertix> you know what you did?
[02:28] <vertix> you prevented discussion of the most lethal rootkit to date
[02:28] <vertix> and in these couple of days it spread to tens if not hundreds of thousands of machines
[02:29] <elky> vertix, irregardless of the reason for the original ban, your behaviour network-wide is the reason it's not lifted.
[02:29] <vertix> and I spoke to some av scanner teams
[02:29] <vertix> network-wide?
[02:29] <vertix> who told you that?
[02:29] <elky> i did.
[02:29] <vertix> and what kinda behavior are you talking about?
[02:30] <vertix> I am kinda curious
[02:30] <elky> vertix, the defamation behaviour against both us and redhat and whoever else you find convenient.
[02:30] <vertix> what?
[02:30] <vertix> REDHAT?
[02:30] <vertix> DEFAMATION?
[02:30] <vertix> like what?
[02:30] <elky> well, in one channel you accuse us of infecting you, in another channel you accuse redhat of infecting you. one of those has to be a lie.
[02:30] <vertix> seems to be it is just the other way around
[02:31] <vertix> what?
[02:31] <vertix> in which channel and when did I accuse you of infecting me?
[02:31] <vertix> who concocted this lie?
[02:31] <vertix> ikonia? that spy?
[02:31] <vertix> I accuse of REDHAT infecting me?
[02:31] <vertix> are you in your clear mind?
[02:32] <vertix> can I see that log?
[02:32] <vertix> actually, THOSE logs?
[02:32] <vertix> what are you concocting here?
[02:33] <vertix> actually, redhat is about the only thing that works with any degree of stability so far
[02:33] <vertix> everything runs like a champ actually
[02:33] <vertix> never had problems with redhat so far
[02:33] <elky> then why accuse them in ##security?
[02:34] <vertix> it is a bit dated, but kernel is kernel, and 2.6 kernel is good enough for a poor guy like me
[02:34] <vertix> don't you think?
[02:34] <vertix> :--}
[02:35] <vertix> so I am just curious what makes you guys concoct all these lies and fabrications?
[02:35] <vertix> btw, with every minute ticking, I estimate there are > 100 infections, at the very least
[02:35] <vertix> and av guys told me there is no way they can detect it
[02:35] <Pici> What does this have to do with #ubuntu again?
[02:35] <vertix> they'd have to write a driver
[02:36] <vertix> well, you prevented the timely informing of a very large number of potential victims
[02:36] <vertix> and for no reason at all
[02:36] <vertix> strange, isn't it?
[02:36] <vertix> and there was not a single reason for the initial ban
[02:36] <vertix> none
[02:36] <vertix> you understand?
[02:36] <Pici> #ubuntu is a support channel, its not a place to make announcements.
[02:37] <vertix> tell me about it
[02:37] <vertix> I know what kind of "support" you provide
[03:05] <stew> elky: hi
[03:05] <elky> stew, hi, can we please have an end to the harrassment and slander from vertix please.
[03:07] <stew> elky: yeah, i was going to try to mediate with him. though he says he is uninterested
[03:07] <elky> he's also into ban evasion
[03:07] <stew> elky: can you give me a very brief rundown of what has happened
[03:08] <stew> he's currently banned in #ubuntu and here, is that correct?
[03:09] <elky> stew, he ruined his menu.lst file, and was ranting in #ubuntu and not listening to advice, so he was banned. since then he's launched a network-wide mission to convince the network that we here in #ubuntu-ops have given him an undetectable and lethal rootkit. he's also accused others of this. this is why he's banned here -- because it's just a cyclical discussion on the conspiracy we have against him.
[03:09] <stew> ok
[03:10] <stew> how did he evade?  did he change nick? use a proxy?  different ip?
[03:10] <elky> stew, dynamic ip it seems
[03:10] <stew> ok
[03:16]  * genii sips and ponders Osho
[03:35] <stew> elky: he's made it very clear to me that he has no intention of considering trying to resolve this short of an immediate complete change of all ops in #ubuntu
[03:35] <stew> elky: I've made it clear to him that he is not to enter ubuntu related channels unless he chanes his mind
[03:35] <stew> elky: he no longer has a reason to be here if you want to remove him
[03:35] <elky> stew, what about the spreading of malicious defamation about us. he needs to stop that too
[03:36] <stew> elky: let me know specifically what he is doing
[03:36] <stew> and where
[03:36] <stew> I'll try to keep an eye on it
[03:37] <elky> he was doing it in ##security at least.
[03:37] <stew> and please let me know immediately if he shows up in any ubuntu related channels
[03:37] <elky> he's in #ubuntu-kernel
[03:39] <stew> is he unwelcome there?
[03:40] <elky> he was pulling the same crap there by what i'm told
[03:40] <elky> and it does count as 'any ubuntu related channel'
[03:42] <genii> tsimpson, Riddell, other Kubuntu folks... kubuntuforums.net seems to have been down for a quite a while now. Does anyone know if this is regular downtime or possibly something else?
[03:48] <durock> hi
[03:48] <durock> i neeed support
[03:48] <durock> theres someone who can help me?
[03:50] <genii> durock: This is not the support channel, but rather #ubuntu-ops . Did you try to enter #ubuntu channel ?
[03:50] <durock> thanks ill try
[03:54] <genii> durock: Please do not remain in this channel
 he's also into ban evasion
[04:31] <stew> i'm having trouble finding a ban he evaded
[04:31] <stew> does someone have a specific example?
[05:18] <Flannel> stew: I'm not sure if there's others, but joining here 3 hours ago was.
[05:18]  * Flannel hasn't looked.
[05:18] <stew> ok, i'll see if i can find that
[05:18] <stew> Flannel: as vertix?
[05:19] <Flannel> stew: Indeed.  Elky removed two bans (Well, a ban and a mute) 30 minutes ago, the ban there was one he was evading.
[05:19] <stew> oh, joining HERE
[05:19] <Flannel> well, it was a ban set up, and he joined anyway.
[05:20] <Flannel> I'm not sure I'd personally call it evasion
[05:20] <stew> ok
[05:20] <Flannel> stew: like I said, I'm not sure re: others.
[05:20] <Flannel> I just used the powers of lastlog ;)
[05:31] <genii> According to the logs his IP seemed to rotate on what you might expect of a dhcp connection...like once a day or so
[05:32] <mneptok> jussi01: http://woa2.com/hedgehog-with-big-ears/
[05:32] <genii> May14 seemed only single day he had different numbers
[05:32] <genii> mneptok: Wow, that thing is tiny
[05:35] <mneptok> if i had a nickel ...
[05:35] <genii> Hehe
[05:58] <elky> Flannel, i call it evasion when a ban is placed and the user is informed they are banned for X time and they return before that time without leaving if it's really accidental.
[05:59] <elky> stew, he also has a nick ban in #u. usually that requires evasion.
[06:17] <Myrtti> does anyone speak spanish better than I do? someone needs to tell artistx and songer that they're about to be kicked
[06:21] <Myrtti> ok, thanks
[06:21] <genii> Myrtti: Feel free. The "English only in #ubuntu Spanish in #ubuntu-es"    translation of babelfish obviously didn't impact
[06:21] <Myrtti> genii: which is why I didn't even try it
[06:22] <genii> I do sometimes because they may only be oblivious and not purposely ignorant. But the effect varies.
[06:25] <genii> Myrtti: Hehe... I'm pretty sure "pinches mamones" isn't complimentary
[06:25] <Myrtti> that's the thing, I don't speak a word of spanish
[06:26] <Myrtti> I only go by the tone of the words
[06:28] <genii> Apparently "endejo" translates roughly to "bugger"
[06:28] <Myrtti> http://paste.ubuntu.com/176169/
[06:33] <Myrtti> I wonder, should the bans list be raked again
[06:42] <genii> Well, 1:40AM here. So sleep time for me. 
[06:42] <Myrtti> genii: nini dearie
[06:42] <genii> Myrtti: Gnite
[07:03] <mneptok> "endejo" might be shorthand for "pendejo" *shrug*
[07:06] <jussi01> mneptok: yeah, those long eared hedgies a great :D
[07:07] <mneptok> :)
[07:08] <mneptok> FLOOPPY SNUFFLER!!!!!11!!!!!ONE!!!!
[07:51] <Myrtti> I feel like slapping every mibbit user with the default nick to death
[08:08] <ziroday> Hi, someone might want to put an eye on Silverinho in #ubuntu, thanks!
[08:16] <Mamarok> can I ban somebody with a reason and tell him to ask for an unban somewhere?
[08:16] <Myrtti> that's the exact way of doing it
[08:16] <Mamarok> he is flooding the channel with in/out all the time
[08:16] <Mamarok> where would I send him to then ?
[08:17] <Myrtti> /mode +b nick!ident@host!##fix_your_connection
[08:17] <jussi01> Mamarok: we usually forward them to ##fix_your_connection''
[08:17] <jussi01> hehe
[08:17] <Mamarok> jussi01: thanks
[08:17] <jussi01> Mamarok: theres a scripted part to do it
[08:18] <jussi01> /af iirc - look again at the source
[08:18] <Mamarok> jussi01: I know, still have to find my way around...
[08:18] <jussi01> :)
[08:24] <Mamarok> jussi01: do I actually have to give the nick@host address or is nick sufficient?
[08:24] <jussi01> Mamarok: for use with the script?
[08:24] <jussi01> Mamarok: just the nick is fine
[08:24] <Mamarok> yes
[08:24] <Mamarok> ok, thx :)
[08:25] <Myrtti> well Nick!*@*!##Fix_your_connection ;-)
[08:25] <jussi01> Myrtti: she is using auto_bleh
[08:25] <Mamarok> Myrtti: I use a script for irssi
[08:25] <Myrtti> ew
[08:25] <jussi01> Myrtti: shush
[08:25] <Myrtti> I did give it a try years ago
[08:26] <jussi01> Myrtti: it makes things _extra_ easy
[08:26] <Mamarok> Myrtti: it really does :)
[08:26] <Myrtti> jussi01: I dare say I get things as easy with my aliases
[08:26] <jussi01> Myrtti: autobleh is still easier :P
[08:27] <Mamarok> well, I don't have to op myself in the first place
[08:27] <jussi01> Mamarok: I can give you +o in the channel where you got the script from if you want to practice...
[08:27] <Myrtti> me neither!
[08:27] <Myrtti> anyway
[08:27] <Myrtti> whatever floats your boat
[08:27] <jussi01> Myrtti: your aliases are basically a hack of what auto_bleh odes well :P
[08:27] <jussi01> *g*
[08:27] <Myrtti> jussi01: shouldn't you be working
[08:28] <Myrtti> ;-)
[08:28] <jussi01> hehe
[08:37] <Castawayz> ok
[08:37] <jussi01> Hi
[08:37] <Castawayz> explain away at the rationale for removing me jussi01
[08:38] <jussi01> Castawayz: I gave you the botabuse factoid because you said: [10:31:52] <Castawayz> i just like using ubottu dont mind me
[08:38] <Castawayz> i still gave proper information
[08:39] <Castawayz> were you just jonesing to use your all important op power?
[08:39] <jussi01> Castawayz: Im well over the need to do that. 
[08:40] <Castawayz> well over the need?
[08:40] <Castawayz> is your name zulu for overreaction
[08:40] <Mamarok> Castawayz: that will not make your case better...
[08:41] <Castawayz> i'm sorry your holiness
[08:41] <Myrtti> that's not helping either
[08:41] <Castawayz> thank you for having an audience with me your majesty
[08:41] <Castawayz> how about we hug it out.
[08:41] <jussi01> Castawayz: I removed you as warning. simple. you are not banned, please just use the bot properly.
[08:42] <Castawayz> getting banned on irc isnt the end of the world
[08:42] <Castawayz> that's why god invented shells and vpns
[08:42] <Myrtti> and you're not banned
[08:42] <Castawayz> genesis 1:1
[08:42] <Myrtti> Castawayz: please leave
[08:42] <Castawayz> In the beginning, there were a bunch of snotty operators. But then God made unix shells  in case they abused their power. And it was good.
[08:45] <UbuntuOpsRAsswip> fuuuck you
[08:45] <UbuntuOpsRAsswip> i can dance all day boom headshot boom headshot
[08:46] <Mamarok> Oo...
[08:46] <Myrtti> DRAMA!
[08:46] <Myrtti> Mamarok: welcome to the looney bin
[08:46] <triplefyou> ban my identd you morons
[08:46] <triplefyou> i thought you were like awesome gurus
[08:47] <Mamarok> what an idiot ...
[08:48] <DidYouL2BanIdent> nope
[08:48] <DidYouL2BanIdent> fail
[08:48] <Myrtti> ideas?
[08:48] <elky> errr.. wrong way round
[08:48] <jpds> Ban forward the whole channel for now.
[08:49] <okyougottabanthe> look
[08:50] <okyougottabanthe> im not a mean guy
[08:50] <okyougottabanthe> im just trying to point out that say i was mean and wanted to flood
[08:50] <elky> christel, halp!
[08:50] <Myrtti> is there a way to ban two word realnames?
[08:50] <jpds> I told you to forward joins somewhere else.
[08:51] <Myrtti> because he'll probably swap the ident as soon as he finds a system that doesn't run identd
[08:51] <Seeker`> wow, fun
[08:52] <jpds> Myrtti: It's *castaway.
[08:52] <christel> jebus!
[08:53] <christel> he's gone 
[08:54]  * Seeker` -> work
[08:54] <okgoodjob> ok good work
[08:54] <okgoodjob> that's all i wanted you to do
[08:54] <okgoodjob> have a good night
[08:54] <okgoodjob> love and peace
[08:54] <jpds> ...
[08:56] <Myrtti> what's his problem, really?
[08:56] <elky> probably some chemical extra or lacking.
[08:56] <Mamarok> Myrtti: proof of concept I guess
[08:56] <Myrtti> and as I said, he changed his ident
[08:57] <Mamarok> kid probing how far he can go
[09:04] <Tm_T> is that enough for K-train?
[09:05] <elky> Tm_T, he'd just dodge k-tickets too.
[09:06]  * Mamarok thinks Tm_T and elky are talking in riddles..
[09:07] <Mamarok> K-train?
[09:07] <elky> Mamarok, k:line
[09:08] <elky> which the k-train runs along. one requires a k-ticket to ride the k-train
[09:08] <elky> christel, can we also k-line sh3lls :P
[09:09] <elky> in general. it has too many trolls.
[09:09] <christel> yah, i did so, but i suspect theres another 100 or so hosts yet to show up
[09:09] <christel> vanity host shell providers are one of my pet peeves 
[09:21] <elky> useruseruser is not to be unbanned from #ubuntu until he can prove he's not going to spam it with ggggggggggggggggggunit anymore
[10:39] <bazhang> :/
[10:39] <bazhang> not enough channels for him to guuuuunnnit I guess
[10:40] <Mamarok> did I just miss another one?
[10:40] <bazhang> useruseruser was at it again
[10:40] <Mamarok> oh, that one!
[10:41] <bazhang> congrats Mamarok !  (btw)  :)
[10:41] <Mamarok> thx bazhang :)
[10:41] <bazhang> see you on the mailing lists all the time :)
[10:42] <Mamarok> I know, I know, I am the bad girl ;)
[10:43] <bazhang> seem very helpful from what I have read :)
[10:43] <Mamarok> I hope so...
[10:43] <Mamarok> even if some users eat my nerves sometimes...
[10:44] <bazhang> hehe
[10:44]  * Mamarok goes back to work to earn some monnies
[11:56] <jussi01> ikonia: see PM...
[11:56] <ikonia> reading
[12:03] <ikonia> @bansearch indus
[12:05] <indus> hi there
[12:06] <ikonia> ubottu.com dead jussi01 ?
[12:06] <ikonia> hello
[12:06] <indus> why did u ask me to move it here? is that like an invitation to argue?
[12:07] <ikonia> indus: no, I said I'm not arguing, if you wanted to discuss it more do it in #ubuntu-ops
[12:07] <ikonia> I didn't invite you here, I just wanted to stop the discussion in #ubuntu 
[12:07] <indus> stop being a jerk what is that supposed to mean?
[12:07] <ikonia> exactly what it says, stop being a jerk
[12:07] <indus> whats a jerk btw
[12:07] <indus> ok nvm
[12:08] <indus> bye
[12:08] <ikonia> being a pain / issue in the channel 
[12:08] <indus> iam a pain in the channel? 
[12:08] <ikonia> you where at that moment yes trying to "be right"
[12:08] <indus> i think i was explaining to you the facts 
[12:09] <ikonia> I kept telling you "I don't know about that hardware" so stop going over the "facts" 
[12:09] <indus> you can check it yourself if you wish what ati chipset is called in ubuntu
[12:09] <indus> ya so i told you about the hardware thats all
[12:09] <ikonia> indus: I know what it is called, I kept telling you "I don't know about that hardware"
[12:09] <ikonia> indus: but I can't help if I don't know about the hardware, 
[12:09] <indus> ya so i only told u because i have similar ati as spike had
[12:09] <ikonia> so ???
[12:09] <ikonia> I still can't help
[12:09] <indus> cant help it if iam right can i
[12:10] <indus> u are an op i guess, but please do mind your words
[12:10] <ikonia> it's nothing to do with being an op
[12:11] <ikonia> the guy wanted help, I can't help him, I said "I can't help" 4 - times, keep telling me about that card won't make me able to help
[12:11] <indus> ok bye 
[12:27] <ikonia> !ops | vertix 
[12:28] <bazhang> ban forwarded here?
[12:28] <elky> vertix, you have changed your mind?
[12:28] <ikonia> @bansearch vertix
[12:28]  * ikonia thanks the lord for elk
[12:29] <elky> ikonia, he's unbanned from here so he can come tell us when he's changed his mind as per his discussion with stew earlier.
[12:29] <Tm_T> elky: oh, hat?
[12:29] <ikonia> elky: yup, but I wanted someone around before it kicked off again 
[12:29] <elky> Tm_T, the bans can go back on if he's going to be silly just as easily as i took em off.
[12:30] <elky> (easier, in fact)
[12:30] <vertix> hi
[12:30] <vertix> i did some more study on this
[12:30] <elky> vertix, so you've changed your mind and decided to stop?
[12:30] <vertix> and you guys do the stupidest ting possible
[12:30] <vertix> and the more you do it, the worse it gets
[12:31] <ikonia> that's a no then
[12:31] <elky> indeed it is, ikonia
[12:31] <vertix> this stuff is so sensitive and so many people can get in trouble
[12:32] <Tm_T> he says being security specialist and yet have to deal with us?
[12:32] <ikonia> security specialist and he got hardware rooted
[12:32] <ikonia> not the best advert
[12:32] <bazhang> hehe
[12:32] <elky> he says he's a security specialist, but breaks his menu.lst by copy pasting the redhat entries and s/redhat/ubuntu/ on those bits.
[12:33] <elky> (which is apparently a rootkit)
[12:33] <Tm_T> elky: thats why it cannot be detected
[12:34] <elky> of course. mind you, rebuilding the menu.lst is actually trival enough if you have a livecd.
[12:35] <ikonia> elky: same way he "ported" redhat to other platforms for redhat, but was in ##linux asking what "disk labels" where
[12:35] <ikonia> "do you not know who I am"
[12:35] <elky> ikonia, please tell me you log...
[12:36] <ikonia> I know you've just admited to the world that you a security specialist and master redhat porter don't know what a disk label is and that you have been rooted by people you keep calling fools
[12:36] <ikonia> elky: let me look
[12:36] <ikonia> 21:35 < vertix> how do I change the partition name gnome file browser uses to show partitions?
[12:36] <ikonia> that's all I've got from it
[12:36] <ikonia> it goes on to say that gnome picks the partition / mount points from the disk name/label"
[12:36] <elky> heh
[12:36] <ikonia> "what's a disk label"
[12:36] <ikonia> etc
[12:37] <ikonia> I may have it in full
[12:37] <ikonia> that's all my grepping pulled out
[12:37] <elky> is he firing up anywhere else yet?
[12:38] <ikonia> all quiet in the rooms I'm in, but he is in others that I'm not
[12:39] <elky> apparently you've followed him into all his rooms
[12:39] <ikonia> yet I'm not in them
[12:39] <ikonia> he only means the obvious one's like ##linux and ##kernel, which shock horror, I was in there before him
[12:39] <elky> oh lookie. /queries
 one more time: you are doing the stupidest thing possible under the circumstances because what I am seeing is this thing is way too sensitive and many people may get hurt and some of them in high places on both sides of the fence. The more you do this, the worst it gets
[12:40] <ikonia> he said that in the channel before he was kicked
[12:40] <elky> yeah
[12:40] <elky> wasnt as exciting as i was expecting
[12:41] <ikonia> he's losing it when he can't be bothered to type new rants, just cut's and pastes 30 seconds old ones
[12:41] <elky> nah trolls are lazy from the get go.
[12:42] <ikonia> he was quite inventive, even to the detail of informing #clamav how he's invested a new virus scanner to scan emtpy files to pick up the root kit
[12:42] <ikonia> he's clearly a blue sky thinker
[12:44] <elky> ##security is typically dead, i take it?
[12:44] <ikonia> yes, but it's normally got good topics when alive
[12:44] <ikonia> eg: dead but when it does speak, it's worthwhile
[13:06] <elky> oh, and he continues...
 the provisions about logs have been made. If anybody makes the wrong move, the whole thing will appear automatically in all sorts of places, and when it does, some heads will roll, after what I have learned with new information. I am trying to approach this very cautiously until I see the whole picture. If I don't see the whole picture, I may make a move, many will regret. So, it is not beneficial for you to play these stoopid games yo
[13:06] <elky> u do to
 and you, specifically, are close to top of the list, remember this real well
[13:07] <elky> christel, can we please have a reprieve from this moron?
[13:07] <christel> same guy as earlier? 
[13:08] <christel> he should be gone
[13:09] <elky> not castawayz, no. different lunatic
[13:10] <elky> he messed up his menu.lst and believes it's a rootkit.
[13:10] <elky> that's my understanding anyway.
[13:13] <christel> aah him
[13:13] <christel> you evil hax0r you 
[13:15] <ikonia> you can't buy this sort of foolish behviour
[13:16] <ikonia> I personally think the rootkit has pici's mark all over it (vertix reads logs, and should now start blaming pici) - enjoy :)
[13:16] <Pici> <.<
[13:22] <bazhang> I am betting if his ban in #ubuntu is removed all will be fixed. seems like not so veiled threats imo
[13:24] <ikonia> bazhang: I don't think it will, as this was the reason he got the ban
[13:25] <Pici> He doesn't seem to be able to act like a normal person in any of the channels we've seen him in.  If we remove the ban I have a feeling we would be re-applying it quite quickly.
[13:26] <bazhang> surprised he is still allowed in -kernel actually
[13:27] <ikonia> bazhang: he's been warned to not make his noises in there, so if he does he's gone, but he has stopped in there
[13:27] <bazhang> ikonia, he seems to be offline now 
[13:27] <ikonia> so he does, but he has been quiet in that channel after he was told to not make noise
[13:36] <ikonia> chanserv lagging
[13:45] <ikonia> someone else can deal with kingkimi now, fed up with the same behaviour from him "I've read everything but can't do it2
[13:45] <ikonia> utter time wating lies
[13:45] <Pici> Let some one else help him then.
[13:45] <ikonia> totally
[13:46] <ikonia> P4R41
[13:47] <ikonia> panarchy
[13:47] <ikonia> I know it sounds nuts
[13:47] <bazhang> nyc?
[13:47] <ikonia> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1163031
[13:48] <ikonia> the most obscure question posted on the same os in 24 hours
[13:48] <bazhang> must be him
[13:49] <elky> hmm...
[13:49] <ikonia> now kingkimi is just giving him false info
[13:49] <bazhang> and kingkimi is helping him
[13:49] <ikonia> not sure if I should stop him
[13:49] <bazhang> heh
[13:50] <Myrtti> ikonia: yes, you should
[13:52] <Pici> KingKimi seems to be pretty knowledgable despite not knowing how to read a wiki page
[13:52] <ikonia> Pici: he's offering a false economy though
[13:52] <ikonia> Pici: but you are correct
[13:53] <ikonia> ok - that's %100 panarchy
[13:53] <ikonia> that's his exact setup
[13:53] <ikonia> he must be using a proxy of some sort
[13:54] <elky> i need a new mouse. this one is liking to do double clicks far too much.
[13:54] <ikonia> same client too
[13:55] <ikonia> (although I do appreciate more than one person can use firefox + chatzilla)
[13:56] <elky> ikonia, did you try suggesting the forum post yet? if not, i'll butt in with it
[13:56] <ikonia> no
[13:56] <elky> start the stopwatch
[13:56] <ikonia> is much as it pains me I can't be %100 due to the USA isp 
[14:18]  * genii crawls over to the coffeepot
[14:19] <bazhang> starting to doubt that was panarchy, unless he completely changed his speaking style, etc
[14:21] <ikonia> possible
[14:21] <ikonia> the IP does suggest that
[14:21] <ikonia> but the same very rare question within 24 hours and the same setup (keep multiple disk mbrs on seperate drives) is identical to panarchy
[14:21] <ikonia> didn't remove him as wasn't %100 sure
[14:21] <ikonia> despite poor wording on the contrary 
[14:21] <bazhang>  the !offline factoid has http://apt.alturl.com/ that in it (only up to intrepid on the site though)
[14:22] <Pici> bazhang: poke ljl about it
[14:22] <bazhang> ljl runs the site apparently
[14:22] <bazhang> Pici, faster typist you
[14:23] <ikonia> impressive how much ljl contributes in terms of tools
[14:23] <bazhang> user in #kubuntu asking about aptoncd said it pulls gnome dependencies
[14:23] <Pici> It is a gtk app iirc
[14:24] <bazhang> wonder if that site could help but not sure as it is just for packages at a time apparently
[14:24] <bazhang> also, is apturl something new
[14:32] <Pici> no
[14:33] <bazhang> just tried it, pretty cool
[14:35] <genii> Work, /away
[14:48] <jussi01> topyli: PING!!!!
[14:48] <jussi01> topyli: I need that fish soup recipe :D
[14:50] <jussi01> fish soup with cheese... nom nom :d
[14:52]  * genii sips
[15:00] <ikonia> bugabundo thinks it's his own chat channel
[15:00] <Pici> I know...
[15:00] <ikonia> getting a bit fed up of it, and his argument
[15:01] <ikonia> that if it's not policed it's ok
[15:01] <ikonia> rather than just respect the topic
[15:04] <bazhang> night all
[15:04] <Pici> goodnight
[15:04] <LjL> i think i've managed to end up in almost the precisely opposite mental timezone as bazhang
[15:05] <Pici> goodmorning
[15:06] <LjL> well i know it's not morning because there can't be 30°C in the morning :<
[15:06] <Pici> ikonia: looks like they found -offtopic finally.
[15:09] <LjL> what did bazhang or whoever he was helping need apt.alturl.com for? not clear from the logs except it might not do what they needed it to
[15:11] <Pici> LjL: I think it was in #k
[15:12] <genii> LjL: The user wanted an offline install alternative
[15:13] <LjL> uhm, the #k logs seem to be missing something. anyway, kind of a weird request
[15:16] <LjL> seems to me the easiest way to do what he wanted, if i understand what he wanted, would be to just dpkg -i en masse
[15:16] <genii> LjL: I'd think so to.
[15:17] <LjL> ah but he goes on to explain why he doesn't want to do that
[15:17] <LjL> yeah my site might help with that, with the help of sed
[15:18] <Pici> Well, your site needed the update regardless of the present use
[15:18] <LjL> Pici: given that my site gets used about once a month (during the good months), i'm interested in its use cases
[15:19] <Pici> hm
[15:23] <elky> http://games.funnygames.nl/lemmings/index.html <-- lemmings in javascript. someone is going to need to ban me from the internet so i can get to bed
[15:24] <LjL> heresy
[15:25] <elky> the buttons are dodgy, but other than that... stupidly well done
[15:25] <LjL> i said heresy
[15:25] <elky> hehehe
[15:26] <LjL> i only play lemmings on my amiga or an amiga emulator, for the PC version of the music makes me cringe.
[15:26] <elky> hehe
[15:26] <elky> well, off to bed
[15:26]  * Pici grabs his head and pops like a lemming
[15:27]  * genii Krazy Glues Pici back together
[15:53] <Pici> taken care of
[15:53] <Pici> LjL: thanks
[15:55] <genii> Work, /away
[16:23]  * ikonia is physically dying after the gym
[16:24] <LjL> ikonia: you are mistaken.
[16:24] <LjL> this isn't hell, it's just IRC.
[16:24] <LjL> an easy mistake to make.
[16:28] <ikonia> I'd welcome hell at this moment, it maybe cooler than my face
[16:29] <LjL> it's probably cooler than here too
[17:35]  * genii prepares more coffee
[17:37] <genii> If someone wanted to start a #k loco channel, who would they approach?
[17:38] <Tm_T> genii: their loco if they have one somewhere, if not, us then?
[17:38] <LjL> the relevant loco
[17:38] <Tm_T> genii: no, not us, -irc (:
[17:39] <LjL> also, if the relevant loco is some tiny one where the main #ubuntu channel is made up by about 12 people, then IMHO they should approach something hot, pointy, electrically charged or otherwise harmful >:
[17:40] <genii> Hm.
[18:00] <ikonia> are loco channels not #u or #k specific
[18:00] <ikonia> just "loco"
[18:03] <Tm_T> ikonia: depends?
[18:04] <Tm_T> ikonia: finnish loco has atleast 5 channels, including ubuntu, kubuntu, devel etc etc
[18:05] <ikonia> really ? what are they
[18:11] <jussi01> ikonia: smaller loco's have oonly #ubuntu-XX
[18:11] <jussi01> where as bigger locos are split
[18:12] <jussi01> #kubuntu-XX #ubuntu-XX etc
[18:13] <ikonia> interesting
[18:13] <jussi01> and -fi is special :P
[18:13] <ikonia> of course
[18:13] <jussi01> also, some locos have -ops (-es for example)
[18:14] <ikonia> yes. I saw that a short while ago 
[18:19] <genii> Bleh. Someone's yelling for me every couple minutes here. /away a while
[18:28] <Pici> I dont think an ops call was necessary.
[18:28] <ikonia> nope
[18:28] <ikonia> I'm there now
[18:28] <ikonia> checking I didn't miss anything
[18:28] <Pici> As am I.
[18:29] <ikonia> ok it was
[18:29] <ikonia> c0cksukr
[18:29] <ikonia> scroll up before the name change
[18:29] <Pici> And he changed his name after being requested...
[18:29] <ikonia> yup
[18:30] <ikonia> home time
[18:31] <Pici> Mez: did you speak with him?
[18:31] <Mez> Pici: no... he was spamming a lot to the channel... so I was watching to see if he stopped while silenced
[18:36] <LjL> ikonia: /msg alis list #ubuntu-it*
[18:37]  * genii sips and catches up on scroll
[18:41] <genii> Every little thing today, they call for me "I jammed the paper shredder" "why is my phone making this weird sound" "if I dry it out will the elctronics still work?"  etc
[18:41]  * genii hides
[18:41] <LjL> and is coffee the answer to *all* of those?
[18:41] <genii> LjL: Sadly coffee was the cause of one
[18:41] <LjL> oh.
[18:42] <Pici> genii: Which one?
[18:42] <genii> Pici: The cash register needing to dry out.
[18:42] <genii> I'm sure it's fried though actually
[18:43] <Pici> genii: Where do you do support?
[18:43] <genii> Pici: Remember I have 4 jobs
[18:43] <Pici> genii: I didnt
[18:44] <Flannel> Well, if it wasn't turned on when they dropped the coffee on it...
[18:45] <Flannel> Also, if it didn't already let out magic smoke.  But, just drying out the coffee won't help.  You'll have to wash it off, as I'm sure dehydrated coffee is conductive.
[18:46] <genii> 1) look after office bldg, collect rents, fix things, run elevator   2) volunteer/sometime paid part time admin/support for a co-op ISP (in same bldg) 3) IT on-call for a couple companies in same bldg  4) Supervise a night-time art dropin (which has also a computer lab I look after)  . So the cash register was during 1)
[18:46] <LjL> wait, you mean you aren't *paid* to sip coffee?
[18:46] <genii> Flannel: No smoke but some popping, apparently
[18:46] <Flannel> LjL: that's 5) which he failed to mention: 5) part time performance artist
[18:46] <genii> After it dries out I'll get the multimeter out, pop it open and test crap
[18:47] <genii> LjL: I need al the jobs to pay for my caffeine habit
[18:47] <genii> And my gadget addiction
[18:54] <genii> Flannel: Job 5 is a labour of love, btw
[19:03]  * genii watches LjL go  !best crazy
[19:44] <Seeker`> hi Mamarok 
[19:55] <Mamarok> hi Seeker` 
[19:55] <Mamarok> sry, still drowned in work
[19:57] <Seeker`> tis ok :)
[20:47] <Seeker`> I HATE putty
[20:47] <Seeker`> and RSI
[20:48] <Seeker`> fumbling for the mouse with the wrong hand + right click + putty + text in clipboard to be translated to see what it means
[20:48] <ikonia> ha
[20:59] <Pici> :( I like putty
[20:59] <ikonia> it's a great app, but my cut and paste borks too
[21:30] <Tm_T> change settings then?
[21:30] <Myrtti> hellllooooo
[21:31] <Tm_T> Myrtti: hi hi
[21:31]  * Myrtti is happily tipsy
[21:32] <Seeker`> hi Myrtti 
[21:33] <Tm_T> Myrtti: then be happy for both of us (;)
[21:40] <Myrtti> Tm_T: I bloody well am!
[21:45] <guntbert> HI, I propose to detach the factoid !mount from !partitions and replace it with "mount is used to attach devices to directories. See also http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/mounting.html"
[21:47] <Seeker`> !mount
[21:47] <Seeker`> !partitions
[21:48] <LjL> don't we have something on help.u.c about mounting rather than tuxfiles?
[21:49] <guntbert> LjL:  I didn't check, but will :-)
[21:50] <LjL> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount doesn't look too bad at a cursory glance
[21:51] <guntbert> LjL: I propose to detach the factoid !mount from !partitions and replace it with "mount is used to attach devices to directories. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount"
[22:07]  * Myrtti just bought flights back to UK
[22:07] <Myrtti> ♥ 
[22:08] <Seeker`> Myrtti: yay!
[22:08] <Seeker`> Myrtti: when?
[22:08] <guntbert> is there any input expected from me?
[22:09] <Myrtti> 14th
[22:09] <LjL> guntbert: no, you're just being ignored because no one apparently wants to fiddle with factoids at the moment :)
[22:10] <Myrtti> I can happily say I'm too drunk to think about any bloody factoids :-D
[22:10] <Myrtti> having said that, off to kitchen to microwave something nommy
[22:10] <Tm_T> Myrtti: shame on you
[22:11] <guntbert> LjL: its not *that* urgent anyway :-) so I'll be off - nice journey to Myrtti 
[22:11] <Myrtti> Tm_T: I really *am* ashamed
[22:11] <Seeker`> Myrtti: june?
[22:11] <Seeker`> !partitions is <reply> For help with partitioning a new install see: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/switching/installing-partitioning.html - For partitioning programs see !GParted, !QtParted (!Kubuntu 8.10 and lower) or !PartitionManager (!Kubuntu 9.04 and up) - Other partitioning topics include !fstab !home and !swap
[22:12] <Seeker`> !partitions
[22:12] <Seeker`> !-mount
[22:12] <Seeker`> !disks
[22:12] <LjL> so since -ot is no help as usual, and there's probably a larger percentage of travelers here to begin with. what would be a decent site to scrape airline sites for cheapest tickets for europe flights?
[22:12] <LjL> !-disks
[22:12] <Myrtti> Seeker`: yeah
[22:12] <LjL> (how come virtually every factoid in the world seems to have been added by me)
[22:13] <Seeker`> !mount is used to attach devices to directories. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount
[22:13] <Seeker`> ubottu: no, mount is used to attach devices to directories. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount
[22:13] <Seeker`> !mount
[22:13] <Seeker`> better?
[22:59] <LjL> !ufw
[22:59] <LjL> !firewall
[22:59] <LjL> +1
[23:00] <Myrtti> !ufw is <reply> foo
[23:00] <Myrtti> !no ufw is <alias> firewall