[00:06] hm, is there an out of the box solution to give users access to certain init scripts? [00:09] etc/sudoers magic maybe? [00:10] yann2: I am looking more for a "config infrastructure" for that purpose, so, creating init scripts for a user/service pair and enable them .. [00:11] hm, how do you guys enable users to restart a fastcgi app? (in an ideal world this app is handled by initscripts, so it comes up after a reboot e.g.) [00:11] ah now thats a different question [00:12] I'd like the answer to that [00:12] people usually used killall :) [00:14] hm, that sucks somehow :D [00:17] yann2: http://www.undefinedfire.com/lab/user-init-scripts/ [00:17] try that :) === yml_ is now known as yml === hggdh is now known as hggdh_ === hggdh_ is now known as hggdh__ === hggdh__ is now known as hggdh [03:33] I'm having issues with rewriting from domain.com/folder to www.domain.com/folder. domain.com to www.domain.com works just fine, but it does not work with any folders. I'm running Apache2 [04:00] hey guys, i am tinkering with libvirt and kvm on jaunty. I have used python-vm-builder to create a jaunty server vm that exists in ~/ubuntu-kvm. [04:01] i see that the virsh define command is neccesary to register the xm, but there is no xml file with confg for this machine. [04:01] do i need to make that, or is the xml file a need for a differnt (virt-install) tool? [04:03] slestak: the xml files should be in /etc/libvirt/qemu [04:06] ok, i see default.xml. it only specs bridge networking using dhcp. I specified the ip address of my vom on the command line when I built it. [04:06] i am trying to determine if I need to define the vm in virsh before i can run it? [04:08] this is how i created it http://pastebin.com/m6eded9ef [04:09] slestak: do you have a bridge setup on the host? [04:10] slestak: the vm should be defined by vmbuilder [04:10] sommer: i dont htin I do yet. It is a new install. Sorry for the elementary questions. I am in a little overload with the multitude of option in the server docs. It is difficult to tell which instruction pertain to which method [04:12] slestak: in the networking section of the serverguide there is information on setting up a bridge on the vm host [04:12] sommer: ok, i just made sure kvm waast started, I do have a virbr0 on a 192.168.122.1 network, which is the dhcp range spec'd in the /etc/libvirt/qemu/networks dir [04:13] yes, i see it for 8.10 here https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/serverguide/C/jeos-and-vmbuilder.html [04:13] im going to see if ther eis updated docs for 9.04 [04:14] slestak: there is also information in the 9.04, but it's been rearranged a little [04:32] sommer: Comment for you on the mail server section of the server guide: I don't think the smtp auth stuff should have been removed in favor of just using dovecot-postfix as not everyone wants a local delivery agent. Just setting up smtp auth is a useful set of information. [04:37] ScottK: ya, it's on my list to revisit that section in light of the new dovecot stuff [04:38] ScottK: I think the dovecot section can actually be merged with the postfix section, but you're right the smtp auth does stand alone at times [04:38] Also having the detail about settings is important for troubleshooting. [04:39] I was helping someone last night and I had to go read the source to dovecot-postfix to help him. [04:39] gotcha, I'll update that for karmic [04:41] Cool [04:41] how do i make a lamp system with asp [04:44] slestak: you playing with kvm/libvirt too? in virsh, you need to do a 'list --all' to show inactive machines. the python-vm-builder seems to create the vm with an ID of 'ubuntu' by default [04:45] slestak: it actually defines it, but doesn't enable/start it by default 'if' you tell python-vm-builder to register the machine with libvirt for you [04:46] (either the [libvirt] section of your config, or the --libvirt option on the cmdline) [04:56] cef: thx, yeah, i started looking at vmware-server, but i hate the way they gutted all the shell tools in the free product. [04:56] cef: so i am now looking at libvirt + kvm for my comanies needs. [04:57] vmware blows [04:57] Especially vmware-server [04:58] sommer: i have copied the xml file into libvirt/templates the way the wiki mentions, but the example has most of the settings in thre with secions commented out [05:00] sommer: do i uncomment the line that starts with #if $bridge? the wiki doesnt really specify [05:01] if you're going with a bridge (rather than behind nat), then you should really make a local copy and reference it in your own templates. [05:01] (that way, if the templates get changed thru an upgrade, you don't lose your changes) [05:01] i did make a local copy to ~/VMBuilder/plugins/libvirt/templates/ [05:02] ahh yup yup [05:02] you've since rebuilt the install using vmbuilder? [05:02] cef: but the template uses $bridge, I assume that may be an arg [05:02] oh and you've created the bridge device? [05:03] not after changing this, i need to locally cache this stuff, dl it is slow for me. That is actually the first vm I am makign with jeos is an apt-proxy server [05:03] for my lan [05:03] which webpage are you referencing atm? [05:03] https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/jeos-and-vmbuilder.html [05:08] ok.. yeah that guide is for 8.10.. you can now tell vmbuilder that you want a bridge rather than the default. hold a sec [05:09] ive updated my pastebin with my vmbuilder command, my ifconfig for virbr0, and the interface ection of VMBuilder/plugins/libvirt/templates/libvirtxml.tmpl [05:09] its at http://pastebin.com/m31f73c3f [05:10] beer time [05:10] so either you can change that config and remove the if/else stuff (making it just that entry), or you can use the new commands (which I think go into the .cfg - can't see it in the man page.. time to look at other docs methinks) [05:10] heh [05:13] is my virbr0 at 192.168.122.1 going to cause a problem, I want to use 192.168.21.35 as a staic ip for this vm, already have a dns pointer to it. [05:14] i think i need to delete that interface and recreate it maybe? [05:16] you need to create a bridge. look at the link in https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/libvirt.html#virtual-networking [05:16] cos the bridge needs to include the 'outside' interface that you want to bridge the clients to (eg: eth0) [05:18] i take it this is dangerous work remotely, lol. i thinkn i did this a while back and had to drive to the console to fix. At least this machine is sonly 3 miles away, instead of 6 states. [05:18] well, double check things. :D [05:19] i just upped the ram in my desktop at work so i will be on this machine in about 8 more hours. [05:19] i am redmond free at my desk, life is good [05:20] :D [05:21] I have too many machines around me (including one machine which is doing kvm, but has no X on it) [05:22] this is interesting, i have no bridge entries in netowk/interfaces, but i do have brctl installed. I have a virbr0, but this is jaunty desktop, and dhcdbd is not installed [05:22] which is fine, but none of the other machines has the right combo of X and jaunty on it so that I can see a console. made finding a typo in my firstboot script a right pain [05:22] i guess the bridge that is running was purely from the vmbuilder defaults and is not fiunctional [05:27] well libvirt sets it up by default I think [05:27] now, this is where it gets tricky, my desktop is on our desktop subnet, 192.168.20.0, however, I want this server to respond to 192.168.21.35. THink that looks questionable? [05:27] my dom0 is 192.168.20.207 [05:27] it's useful for testing stuff if you don't want it to be contactable from remote (eg: if you don't care if it's behind a firewall [05:28] all of this is for internal use, i have to vpn in to see any of this [05:28] as long as the upstream router will allow it on that network interface, shouldn't be an issue [05:28] but I do want this to be reachable by any team member [05:29] what's the netmask? /24? /23 or less? [05:29] as long as dom0 is still functional, I can adjust or move the dom1 later to that othe rsubnet. [05:29] cef: im not sure, sorry. networkign is not my strong point [05:29] slestak: ok, 255.255.255.0 or something else? [05:30] i can start my vm's on the desktop subnet, and move them to my production server an reconfigure them [05:30] 255.255.255.0, yep [05:31] ok.. cos it's a mask. 192.168.20.x masked with 255.255.255.0 means that you can only communicate with machines that the last number (x) differs. otherwise it has to go through a router somewhere [05:31] ipcalc is a useful tool for finding out that sort of thing btw [05:32] so you can put it on the same network card, but nothing will be able to talk to it [05:32] but hey, it should boot, and as long as you can do console, it'll be fine [05:33] i missed the last thing you said I think. restarting networkign lost my remote session [05:33] ipcalc is a useful tool for finding out that sort of thing btw [05:33] so you can put it on the same network card (using a bridge), but nothing will be able to talk to it [05:33] (and then what I just said) [05:33] * Reconfiguring network interfaces... [05:33] Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0. [05:34] pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces file [05:34] well, its 12:30am, i'll pick it up tomorrow. thx for your help. I cant righ tnow, that machine is not available until i can reach the console [05:35] i can recreate it though [05:35] no probs.. [05:35] got a few hrs before I head home (.au here) [05:36] do you have my oastebin url still? [05:37] http://pastebin.com/m6730b2a4 [05:37] and eth0 = 192.168.20.207 <-- different subnet from guest. [05:38] what is the biggest, baddest kvm machine you guys have ever built? [05:39] we have an olap tool (MITS) that currently runs on our aix box with our erp system. I am entertaining the idea of running this on a rhel dom0 with kvm dom1. [05:39] a hefty 512MB guest windows XP install in kvm [05:39] yes, I barely use kvm [05:40] the data needs are trmendous, (for me) 32G of db, and 136G of indexes and cubes. [05:41] ahh yeah.. you need to set it up as 192.168.20.x (the bridge replaces the 'eth0' address) [05:41] then when you 'add' ip's to the bridge, they aare their own (ie: defined in each vm) [05:42] i wonder if virtualization can scale up to that? I have my eye on a fiber channel jbod from a friend that has 5.6Tb (14 x 400g sata) that i can stripe some and use lvm snapshots onto another set nightly. [05:43] cef: so each vm will redefine its own br0, or will i need br0, br1, br2 for 3 vm's? [05:43] I'm still playing.. the issue is data movement. [05:44] slestak: each machine will create another ip and add it to br0 (eg: br0:0, br0:1) [05:45] im not super concerned with performance. My other choices beside virtualization are to use either one of our two older prod boxes, two aix machines, 1x800Mhz or 2x450Mhz, At least the dom0 is a modern poweredge that can take 4 Xeon's. Hopefully it can hang [05:46] main issues (IMO) are going to be disk speed access and network speed. you might need to look at virtio to improve the network access [05:46] i need one of those ip kvm switches (other definition of kvm) so when I do this to my poweredge, I can reach the console from Michigan. the server is in Maryland [05:47] yeah.. always a pain.. [05:47] Can I use a ramdisk in a virtual machine? [05:49] My plans is twofold. I plan on striping this data only, no mirror, no parity. Set up it with max read/write speed. I can alway rebuild my cubes from source data if I suspect them. Use an lvm snaphot nightly to another set of disks in the jbod, so I basically mirror it once per day, instead of on every write [05:50] s/is/are [05:51] i need to cruise. ty for your help cef [05:54] RoAkSoAx: hi [05:54] ivoks, heya master, how's it going [05:54] RoAkSoAx: sorry, i couldn't come yesterday [05:55] ivoks, it's ok :) [05:58] ivoks, do you have time now? [05:58] yes :) [05:58] hi ivoks [05:58] ajmitch: hi [05:59] ivoks, this is the FTBFS: https://launchpad.net/~andreserl/+archive/ppa/+sourcepub/634425/+listing-archive-extra [05:59] RoAkSoAx: let me boot the karmic server and check that ftbs [05:59] ivoks, i think it would have been a sync, but it FTBFS [06:02] RoAkSoAx: what time is it in your timezone? [06:02] ivoks, midnight [06:02] so, 7 hours diff [06:03] oh really.. what are you doing up so early :)?? [06:03] documentation for one project :D [06:03] i hate writting documentation :/ [06:04] ivoks, i hate to getting up so early.. i can get up before 9 :) hahaha and yes.. i hate documentation too [06:04] s/can/cant/ [06:04] i'm grabing paraview [06:04] * ajmitch prefers those easy merges :) [06:05] ajmitch: well, RoAkSoAx is my student and we are at the leason 'How to fix FTBFS' :) [06:05] indeed :) [06:06] heh [06:06] ivoks: I'm at the stage of 'deciphering libtool changes' :) [06:07] * ajmitch needs to finish off, test & upload the php5 merge [06:07] ajmitch: what do you think about having PPA for PHP5 packages? [06:08] tested and approved newer versions of php for older releases [06:08] do you know if it's complicate to install a pci serial in ubuntu? [06:08] I think it'd certainly be useful to have them [06:08] some web devs complain all the time about old php5 [06:08] al_paun: with most of them it's just plug and play [06:08] I don't think it should be too hard to arrange a PPA for it either [06:09] al_paun: some, otoh, require binary driver which kills linux's native serial driver and, basicaly, renders your system unusable [06:09] ajmitch: i'll try creating backported php packages for hardy, just to see how it works [06:10] there aren't too many things in PHP dependencies that should stop that from just working [06:10] that's right; that's way i had that idea... [06:11] RoAkSoAx: i'm pulling required packages to build paraview [06:11] ivoks, k :) [06:11] RoAkSoAx: it was a clean merge... [06:11] * ajmitch is merging 5.2.9.dfsg.1-4 at the moment, nothing jumps out as unbackportable [06:11] I plan to install a fax modem on a server. Since the computer doesn't have any serial what do you suggest?. I've tried with a usb-modem and the modem couldn't be recognized. [06:12] maybe a hardware modem on pci? [06:12] ivoks, i thought that too, but having taking a better look... seems like a sync... [06:12] I already have a serial modem [06:12] which I know it's working on linux [06:12] al_paun: try with pci serial ports [06:13] ok tks [06:13] al_paun: and, leason learned, newer ever buy another server without serial port [06:13] the new mainboards removed serial port [06:13] motherboard [06:13] maybe desktop boards... [06:13] yeah but I [06:14] yeah but it's already bought [06:14] ivoks, my debdiff does not show any changes... because 1. ubuntu-use-ffmpeg-swscaler has been included in debian, so we drop that patch, then debian has dropped gcc4.3.patch and ffmpeg_writer.patch, and it has also dropped ffmpeg from Build-Depends and I'm taking debian changes on mpi... so after that.. no ubuntu change... [06:15] RoAkSoAx: we'll see :) [06:17] well, there's a quite big diff [06:17] ubuntu uses ffmpeg, debian doesn't [06:18] RoAkSoAx: anyway, that's for ubuntnu-motu :) [06:21] hey all [06:22] does anyone here use godaddy??? i registered a domain through them and can't figure out for the life of me how to setup a subdomain, i want forums.mydomain.com to point to mydomain.com/forums (ie. /var/www/forums) === rascov_ is now known as rascov [07:01] does anyone uses latex|tetex|texlive|*ex* for writing documentation? [07:19] ivoks: nope; I prefer python-docutils and rst2pdf now. [07:20] !anyone [07:20] A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? [07:26] twb: hehehe [07:27] i'm interested in editors people use for tex [07:33] ivoks: #emacs [08:40] df [08:41] hi [08:44] can you get vmbuilder to build images directly onto an lvm lv in raw format? everything I've seen says to use qemu-img to convert the default file from qcow2 to raw after the fact, which is just a pain. [08:48] how can i install a broadcom netextreme nic with ubu? [08:49] the installer doesn't see the embedded nics.. :( [08:52] cef: on intrepid building images to lvm failed for me [08:57] stanman1: your NICs require non-free firmware. Not sure if your release of Ubuntu ships with it [09:00] kgoetz: somehow ifconfig eth0 up worked and i could set a static ip, etc [09:00] strangely the installer didn't recogize the nics... [09:01] now it's working [09:01] stanman1: the kernel used during isntall may not have the firwmare loaded. I'd agree its trange though [09:02] i must say, i did an install off an usb stick (no cd in the box), later after booting off the hdd's it worked [10:36] hi, i'm giving eucalyptus a try but i have problems handling user registration mails. Where are the mails gone? [10:36] hi [10:36] anyone running clusters here [10:37] needed soem advice on hardware [11:14] Hi, how do you control log on multiple servers? [11:18] I have 3 1TB sata drives, ubuntu server is intalled on a partition of 1 of them. If i unplug one of the non-boot drives, it works fine.but if i have all 3 connected it comes up with raid45: unknown target type errors and drops to EasyBox (I think its called). My bios has fakeraid which I have turned off, any ideas? [11:22] celephais: i use syslog-ng and centralize all logs on a log-server [11:22] alterlaszlo, and how do you parse the logs? [11:23] alterlaszlo, i mean how do you know if something is going wrong? [11:23] celephais: with syslog-ng it-s quite easy to create filters [11:23] alterlaszlo, ok thank you , i'll check the documentation [11:24] celephais: that's a great question: it dipends on how much time you have to check them ;) if you have few time just parse errors and warnings [11:27] alterlaszlo, is there a program that automatic parse log and look for ad-hoc pattern such , a.e, brtue forcing on ssh? [11:28] celephais: for brute-force attacks i use another package called fail2ban, it's him that check logs and creates autoamtically iptables rules to ban the attacker ip [11:28] it-s great against script kiddies [11:29] mm ok i'll check === gaveen_ is now known as gaveen [13:47] Hi [13:57] I'm modify my syslog and now, no more email activities are logged :-/ Here is my conf : http://pastebin.com/db1c69d3 and you will see file priviledges too [14:02] -? [14:02] -/var/log/mail.log [14:02] - means not sync or something like this [14:03] right, without it, syslog won't buffer logs [14:03] I don't want to log in /var/log/mail.log but in /var/log/mail/mail.(err|log) [14:04] those files exist? [14:04] owned by syslog:adm? [14:04] yes, look below in my pastebin [14:05] oh, sorry [14:05] np [14:05] don't really understand what it doesn't work [14:05] no errors in syslog just in case [14:05] did you check syslog? [14:05] ok... :) [14:06] I've broken something somewhere but I don't know what [14:07] let's double check if postfix handle syslog facilities [14:08] how about: [14:08] mail.info -/var/log/mail/mail.log [14:08] mail.warn -/var/log/mail/mail.log [14:09] mail.err /var/log/mail/mail.err [14:09] ok, let's try [14:09] hold on [14:10] make that mail.warning [14:10] ho [14:10] so, you don't want errors in the same file as other? [14:10] no [14:11] syslog and postfix restarted and I can see the postfix restart notification in mail.log [14:11] nice ;) [14:11] mail sent [14:11] and log'ed [14:11] damned, thanks you bro [14:11] np [14:12] ubuntu's default syslog.conf had that example [14:12] :D [14:12] yes [14:12] I removed it === asac_ is now known as asac [14:48] does anyone here use godaddy??? i registered a domain through them and can't figure out for the life of me how to setup a subdomain, i want forums.mydomain.com to point to mydomain.com/forums (ie. /var/www/forums) === hessml is now known as hessml|away === hessml|away is now known as hessml [15:10] billybigrigger_: this is very much not the place to ask -- godaddy has technical support [15:10] however, forwarding a subdomain to a url is not typically done at the DNS provider [15:13] ivoks: sweet, I see you're trying to get xattr tar working sanely upstream. how's that going? [15:17] billybigrigger_: once you figure out the godaddy subdomain issue, your going to want to learn about mod_rewrite to handle the forums.mydomain.com -> mydomain.com/forums transition. [15:17] eh? [15:18] what do i need to know? [15:19] well i got it working, it only took 48 hours to update...so if i visit forums.mydomain.com now, its just a redirect and the address bar shows mydomain.com/forums [15:19] so all that effort was pointless :P i thought the address bar would show the subdomain as forums.mydomain.com [15:20] kees: it's basicaly redhat's patch [15:20] kees: upstream did some changes to it [15:21] kees: debian maintainer pushed it there [15:21] kees: to be honest, i didn't check how are things going now, but i do know that fedora is interested in that too [15:22] kees: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-tar/2009-03/msg00036.html - that's the last news :/ === hessml is now known as hessml|away [15:28] ivoks: yeah, that's what i was reading. Jorg is totally right, btw. [15:29] i.e. the memcpy vs strcpy bit. [15:29] I don't know about the DIR part [15:31] is there a way to hide the whois information of the domain ? === hessml|away is now known as hessml [15:31] orudie: Whois guard at best. [15:34] hi, i installed ubuntu 8.04 LTS off an usb stick, but now when i remove the usb stick I get an error 15 at grub, how can i solve this? [15:35] stanman1: remove grub from hard disk [15:38] ok, apt-get remove grub? [15:38] then reboot? [15:38] no [15:38] grub is installed on MBR of your hard disk [15:38] ivoks, heya master i'm back :) [15:38] you have to clear hard disk; install another boot loader there [15:38] RoAkSoAx: hi [15:39] ivoks: should we carry the xattr patch in Ubuntu, you think, to give it a wider audience? [15:39] kees: that was my idea; that's why i asked debian dev about that [15:39] * kees nods [15:39] kees: he said he won't introduce changes that aren't from upstream [15:40] we'd want jorg's patches too. [15:40] kees: so, we could do it... but we would be alone there :) [15:40] ivoks: sure, but we do that in other places too. :) [15:40] kees: note that 'my' patch was extracted from redhat's tar [15:40] ivoks: right, sure. we'd want Jorg's fixes, though, too. [15:40] kees: right [15:41] I'm surprised RH hasn't run into more problems with it -- the strdup vs memcpy issue is rather nasty. [15:41] if we do that for tar, we could enable acl by default on all partitions [15:41] ivoks: it seems that acls work already, but that useracl is what's non-default currently. is that right? [15:42] acls don't work [15:42] hm, ok [15:42] you can't set acl on files [15:42] but (almost) all programs are compiled with support for it [15:42] yeah [15:43] I'm curious about it for fscaps, which uses xattrs [15:43] don't know what's that :) [15:43] ivoks, when we are dropping a patch, should I just remove it from the debdiff or should i delete it from debian/patches? [15:44] RoAkSoAx: Why are we dropping it? [15:44] RoAkSoAx: debdiff is diff between debian and ubuntu [15:44] ScottK, because debian merged it [15:44] RoAkSoAx: if ubuntu is droping patch, then it exist in debian [15:44] RoAkSoAx: therefor, it's not in debdiff [15:45] RoAkSoAx: but if your debdiff removes patch that debian did, then you are probably doing something wrong [15:45] do you understand what i'm trying to explain? :) === hessml is now known as hessml|away [15:47] ivoks, in paraview.. i need to drop ubuntu-use-ffmpeg-swscaler becuase debian has merged it (use-ffmpeg-swscaler.patch) so I need to drop the ubuntu patch. [15:47] ivoks, i remove it from the debian/patches/series file, and when I do the debdiff.. it still appears on the debdiff... know what i mean? [15:47] all you have to do is note in changelog explaining that you droped a patch cause debian include it [15:47] RoAkSoAx: don't remove it [15:48] RoAkSoAx: you don't quite understand whole concept, i'm affraid... [15:49] ivoks, i mean in the diff i'm trying to remove the patch that ubuntu did.. let me show you just a aset [15:49] sec [15:50] RoAkSoAx: i'll be back in 20 minutes === hessml|away is now known as hessml [16:07] any idea how to get new dmesg message to go to a tty so I can what what was happening just before this box became unresponsive? [16:07] s/message/messages/ [16:10] How do I disable ssh's stupid check on file permissions on certificates? - I am trying run backups under a specific user and I use ACLs to grant it read access to everything and SSH refuses to work when the ACLs are set on the files. [16:43] RoAkSoAx: cluster stack session got approved for UDS [16:43] ivoks, awesome.. has it been scheduled yet? [16:43] Probably not. [16:44] not yet [16:48] ivoks, hopefully they scheduled on of the lasts sessions so that I can attend :) [16:49] RoAkSoAx: i was thinking of that... what's the time you would like it to be? [16:50] RoAkSoAx: If you subscribe to the spec and tell LP when you will be there, that does bias the scheduling algorithm. [16:50] ivoks, do you know what's the timezone there? [16:51] same as here [16:51] that's -7 for you [16:51] CEST [16:52] sommer: rain on sunday in barcelona... [16:53] ivoks, at what time is the last session? [16:53] 4:00pm [16:53] jpds, 4 to 5 right? [16:54] ivoks, yep, I guess it will need to be at 4pm, since it will be 9 am for me [16:54] Yes. [16:54] k [16:55] RoAkSoAx: You lazy thing! I wake up at 6am. [16:55] jpds, hahahaha i usually wake up at 9.30 [16:59] RoAkSoAx: still teenager? :) [16:59] ivoks, almost 24 :P [16:59] ivoks, just "unemployed" [17:00] ivoks: What do you mean by that? :P [17:01] * jmedina is 26 and also wakes up at 9:30 :) [17:01] lol i'm old [17:01] ivoks: RoAkSoAx where can I find info about proposed cluster stack [17:02] jmedina: we have to discuss it [17:02] jmedina, that's what is going to be discussed during the UDS [17:02] Im learning about HA setups [17:03] jmedina: stop right there [17:03] ups [17:03] O_O [17:03] never mind [17:05] ivoks, should I report it like this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/176497/ ? [17:05] I need to setup a few services in a HA setup, I already have SAN(FC) shared storage, multipath and bonding/vlans for the setup [17:05] jmedina, i've already added howto's for heartbeat: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHighAvailabilityTeam/Heartbeat I've to review them [17:06] but don't use hearbeat [17:06] it's dead [17:06] :S [17:06] ivoks, there's going to be a heartbeat version 3.x [17:06] RoAkSoAx: yeah, it's ok; but debian might not accept it [17:06] RoAkSoAx: thanks [17:06] RoAkSoAx: there will be 3.0, since 2.99 is out for some time [17:06] RoAkSoAx: but there are no intentions to continue with it [17:07] ivoks, who's the upstream developer, horms? [17:07] ivoks: I need to use hardy for the setups, so what is the choise for hardy lts? [17:07] jmedina, heartbeat or rhcs [17:08] One of the things still confuse me is shared storage and cluster filesystem [17:08] do I need gfs clvm? [17:09] this HA setup is going to run under a virtualized setup in bladecenter [17:10] jmedina, you need to use cluster filesystem when you have master / master configs... such as 2 file servers serving as active / active [17:10] gfs and ocfs are clustered filesystems [17:10] they enable you to write at the same time to same filesystem from different machines [17:11] if you want that, i'd suggest using gfs, and thus rhcs [17:11] you might try ocfs too [17:12] Im not doing active/active only active/standby [17:12] then you can use 'normal' linux filesystems [17:13] jmedina, yes.. check out my tutorials.. they will give you and insight of how active / passive works with heartbeat... btw... if you want to have data replicated between two nodes in active / passive, you can use DRBD... [17:13] then I read about locking or corrupted FS when a node a failed node is not fenced or something [17:14] ha isn't replacement for backup [17:14] if your SAN fails, all you have then is backup [17:15] I have 4 redundant paths to the san and using multipath [17:15] still, fire in SAN means no data [17:15] raid10 in san, and of course backups [17:15] error on filesystem means no data [17:15] I'm having trouble with eBox and need help. For some reason, I can't update eBox in Ubuntu Hardy. It is holding back the packages and squid and dansguardian won't work because eBox is writing incompatible config files [17:15] jmedina, yes but first you need a technology that allows you to replicate data... this technlogy could be DRBD..., it provides a "fencing" mechanism that tries to prevent from split-braining.. it is called dopd... i'll soon add a howto on how to do that [17:15] RoAkSoAx: ha has SAN(FC) [17:15] he [17:16] ivoks, I thought that blade centers had that issue resolved already [17:16] i mean data replication and that stuff [17:16] RoAkSoAx: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storage_area_network [17:17] RoAkSoAx: there's no need for drbd and replication with san [17:17] ivoks, yes... [17:18] ivoks, that's why i though that blade centers had that issue resolved already since they do not need of a data repliucation technology such as drbd [17:20] this blades dont have local disk, im using boot from san [17:21] I am looking for a way to get more information then the webalizer main page will give. I am looking for stats on a specific page. [17:23] awstats [17:24] ivoks: my server has webalizer on it speficially. [17:25] that's stoping you from using awstats? [17:25]