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| mccann | hi anyone know what the last working version of the UNR live image is? the current one seems to segfault on boot | 23:19 |
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| bratsche | Neil would know, but he's probably asleep. | 23:28 |
| bratsche | Either that or getting drunk. :) | 23:28 |
| bratsche | Hang on, I'll take a quick peek around and see if he's here. | 23:28 |
| bratsche | mccann: He said you should just use the Jaunty image for now. | 23:34 |
| bratsche | mccann: But don't use the desktop switcher he said. | 23:34 |
| mccann | ok - trying that now :) thanks | 23:34 |
| mccann | yeah realized that the first one i tried is a nightly... | 23:34 |
| bratsche | He didn't seem to be aware of the segfault happening, but we have All Hands this week and it's hard to get much time for hacking right now. | 23:35 |
| mccann | ok - yeah bailed out into the initrd busybox | 23:35 |
| bratsche | Next week is UDS, and I'm not sure if it will be much better for hacking.. I hope so. :) | 23:35 |
| mccann | is there a channel for UNR stuff or is it ok to talk about it here? | 23:36 |
| mccann | once the meeting is over that is | 23:36 |
| bratsche | You can talk about it here. There might be another channel that I'm not aware of though. | 23:36 |
| bratsche | But njpatel is the guy to talk to, and I think he hangs out here. | 23:36 |
| mccann | curious about UNR vs. moblin - your views etc | 23:36 |
| bratsche | I don't have views yet, I haven't even seen the moblin videos yet. | 23:37 |
| bratsche | I think I'm the only person who hasn't. :) | 23:37 |
| mccann | i'm doing a bit of side by side now | 23:37 |
| mccann | (or trying to) :) | 23:37 |
| bratsche | I've heard some talk from other people, but been busy with events at All Hands and trying to find hacking time in between everything so I keep forgetting to try to look at it. | 23:37 |
| mccann | yup the jaunty one boots fine - thanks! | 23:40 |
| bratsche | Nice! | 23:40 |
| bratsche | mccann: So I'm moving out of Baltimore again already. :) | 23:41 |
| bratsche | That didn't last long ;) | 23:41 |
| mccann | oh yeah - to where? | 23:41 |
| bratsche | Eh, just back to Dallas. I kind of like east coast better, but just decided Baltimore was only cool when I was in school. Now I don't like it so much. | 23:41 |
| mccann | ah | 23:42 |
| mccann | it is a odd place | 23:42 |
| mccann | *an | 23:42 |
| bratsche | I was sort of not enjoying it too much, and then a few weeks ago some guys attacked me and I was like, "wtf am I here for again??" | 23:42 |
| mccann | oh jeez | 23:42 |
| bratsche | bleh | 23:43 |
| mccann | that's awful | 23:43 |
| bratsche | I know stuff like that happens in any city, but it feels like it happens more there than other places I've been. | 23:44 |
| bratsche | One guy I know got held up at gunpoint right next to the Walters Art Museum on Charles St.. which I thought was a relatively decent part of town. | 23:44 |
| mccann | well yes and no | 23:44 |
| mccann | a lot of people see the charles village area as a target | 23:45 |
| mccann | same with mt vernon | 23:45 |
| bratsche | I guess because of schools nearby. | 23:45 |
| mccann | yeah | 23:45 |
| ScottK | It kind of goes with being in the city I think. | 23:45 |
| mccann | perceptions of race and class | 23:45 |
| bratsche | Which is probably why Baltimore feels so ghetto and crappy to me, since those are the areas I've been in most. :) | 23:45 |
| * ScottK went to college in Philadelphoa and same story there. | 23:45 | |
| ScottK | phoa/phia | 23:45 |
| bratsche | I'm sure there are nicer areas, and I just haven't been to them. | 23:45 |
| bratsche | ScottK: Yeah, I've heard that about Philly but the areas I've been to there seemed nice. So I'm sure it's just as mccann says. | 23:46 |
| ScottK | I was recently back in west Philly for the first time in a long time and it's a lot nicer than it used to be, but there are still clearly areas not to be out late in. | 23:47 |
| bratsche | mccann: How's Boston? It always seems really nice there to me. | 23:47 |
| * ScottK lives west of Baltimore, BTW. | 23:47 | |
| mccann | boston is great | 23:47 |
| bratsche | ScottK: Oh cool. I'm kind of in Mt. Vernon / downtown | 23:47 |
| ScottK | bratsche: I'm in Ellicott City | 23:48 |
| bratsche | Cool, I've heard of that. | 23:48 |
| bratsche | But not been there. | 23:48 |
| mccann | bratsche: so i heard that you've been looking into client side decorations | 23:48 |
| bratsche | mccann: Yeah, a bit. I started with some code that alexl wrote for directfb, but now I rewrote what I was doing so it's all in GtkWindow proper. | 23:49 |
| mccann | cool | 23:49 |
| mccann | i was talking to krh earlier | 23:49 |
| mccann | bratsche: have you played with gnome-shell at all? | 23:50 |
| bratsche | I want to try to get most of this done (at least the gtk side of it) before the end of UDS. I got my manager to approve for me to work on the Win32 side of client-side-windows again and finish that, because alexl told me we need to get that done before we can get csw integrated into gtk+ | 23:50 |
| bratsche | mccann: No, I haven't but I'm kind of interested to play with it more. I did install it and run it, but I didn't get a chance to look into the code any yet. | 23:50 |
| bratsche | mccann: Are you working on gnome-shell? | 23:52 |
| mccann | somewhat.. mostly on the design | 23:52 |
| bratsche | Nice | 23:52 |
| bratsche | I'm on theming-related stuff for the moment, and client-side decorations seemed like an interesting thing to work on in that realm. | 23:53 |
| mccann | for sure | 23:53 |
| bratsche | And it kind of fits into the netbook work somewhat, because we'd like to be able to collapse the titlebar/menubar if possible to save some precious vertical screen space. | 23:54 |
| bratsche | Not sure yet how that's going to work though, but this was kind of a first step. | 23:54 |
| mccann | yeah | 23:55 |
| mccann | seems to me that there are opportunities to work together here... the shell might be useful on netbooks | 23:55 |
| bratsche | The only problem is that I'm not sure UNR can commit to a GL requirement all the time. | 23:56 |
| mccann | as neil knows since he was involved in the original design... | 23:57 |
| bratsche | But Neil really is the person to talk to about this. | 23:57 |
| mccann | oh gl yeah | 23:57 |
| mccann | do you have a list of devices that you need to support? | 23:58 |
| bratsche | I don't, but Neil might. | 23:58 |
| mccann | we've been doing a lot of hardware enablement work too | 23:58 |
| bratsche | Nice! | 23:58 |
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