[08:39] <SiDi> hi
[09:01] <SiDi> dashua: the ubuntu mini 9 with ubuntu are 70€ cheaper than the windows ones atm \o:
[09:19] <SiDi> anyone around ?
[10:24] <SiDi_> In the end, the ubuntu-art LP team never got cleansed
[10:29] <thorwil> SiDi_, we are at the end?
[10:29] <SiDi_> yeh
[10:29] <SiDi_> the end of the world
[10:30] <SiDi_> kwwii: http://xfce-look.org/content/show.php?content=105366 updated the dust xfwm
[10:30] <SiDi_> now exact replicate of the metacity :p
[10:58] <thorwil> http://arstechnica.com/open-source/reviews/2009/05/hands-on-intel-brings-rich-ui-to-moblin-linux-platform.ars
[11:35] <SiDi_> why are themes split in gnome-themes-ubuntu and community-themes ? :/
[11:45] <SiDi_> dust sand (complete) xfwm \o/ http://xfce-look.org/content/show.php?content=105368
[12:15] <SiDi_> kwwii: zniavre dashua (any gnome user) ping ? :P
[14:07] <xanax`> hello
[14:17] <SiDi> hi
[16:12] <SiDi> anyone who's alive ? thorwil ? :P
[16:12]  * xanax` opens an eye
[16:12] <SiDi> ah great :D
[16:12] <SiDi> xanax`: tell me you're using gnome
[16:13] <xanax`> i am
[16:13] <SiDi> ok, can you please be kind enough to make a screenshot of GNOME with the Impression theme ?
[16:13] <SiDi> it's in gnome-themes-ubuntu
[16:13] <SiDi> and here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Jaunty/Impression
[16:13] <SiDi> cause the screens there are resized, i need an actual size screenshot
[16:15] <xanax`> bah.. i have problems with apt-get
[16:15] <xanax`> i cant' install the theme.. my system is broken :-(
[16:17] <SiDi> aw :O
[16:18] <savvas> SiDi: http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/7562/screenshotx.png
[16:20] <SiDi> vheers :)
[16:21] <SiDi> s/cheers/vheers
[16:21] <savvas> actually hold a sec
[16:21] <savvas> I'll login with the guest
[16:31] <SiDi_> Sorry, mibbit crashed
[16:31] <SiDi_> Thanks for the screenshot xanax`
[16:31] <xanax`> heh... i haven't sent you the screenshot... savvas did
[16:33] <SiDi_> oh
[16:33] <SiDi_> thanks savvas then :p
[16:33] <SiDi_> is there are difference between active and inactive windows btw ?
[16:46] <savvas> brb
[16:50] <savvas0> damn bugs
[16:50] <savvas0> all over my desktop :P
[16:51] <savvas0> SiDi_, http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/7960/screenshotj.png
[17:03] <SiDi_> savvas chers
[19:05] <bencrisford1> When submitting wallpapers to: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Backgrounds
[19:05] <bencrisford1> Can anyone submit to default?
[19:05] <bencrisford1> and can I submit to default and extra?
[19:09] <thorwil> bencrisford1, yes, anyone can
[19:10] <thorwil> bencrisford1, submissions in default might be considered for extra
[19:10] <thorwil> maybe also the other way
[19:10] <bencrisford1> ok
[19:10] <bencrisford1> my submission isnt very good as it is
[19:10] <bencrisford1> but i hope to improve it
[19:10] <bencrisford1> hopefully with some feedback from the rest of the team :)
[19:10] <bencrisford1> thanks thorwil
[19:11] <thorwil> np
[19:13] <bencrisford1> is preferred format png or jpg thorwil?
[19:14] <bencrisford1> because if necessary I can change
[19:14] <SiDi> png
[19:14] <thorwil> right
[19:14] <bencrisford1> damn :P
[19:14] <SiDi> I wish i had a photo camera :/ There is a wonderful place at ~30 kilometers from here which would be a perfect photo wallpaper :p
[19:15] <bencrisford1> ill change when i get the chance, but for now if I upload a jpg is that ok?
[19:15] <thorwil> SiDi, lend one
[19:15] <thorwil> bencrisford1, sure
[19:15] <SiDi> thorwil: i'll try to :p
[19:15] <SiDi> or if i find a good job i'll buy one at the end of the summer
[19:19] <bencrisford1> thorwil, SiDi: I need your advice
[19:19] <bencrisford1> for a name: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Backgrounds?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=karmic-background.jpg
[19:19] <bencrisford1> what would you name it?
[19:19] <bencrisford1> I thought perhaps something like 'Wisdom'
[19:19] <thorwil> bencrisford1, that will do
[19:19] <bencrisford1> (and yes I know it needs alot of work, but thats my starting point, it will get better i hope)
[19:21] <thorwil> bencrisford1, you're using a freely licensed image of a koala?
[19:23] <bencrisford1> thorwil: Perhaps I should check :S
[19:23] <thorwil> yeah
[19:24] <thorwil> bencrisford1, you have to be careful with placing important stuff so close to the edge, as some of it might be clipped off if the wallpaper is used with another aspect ratio
[19:24] <bencrisford1> thorwil: I don't know where the picture was originally uploaded to the web so I don't know how its licensed
[19:25] <bencrisford1> important stuff...  hmm, well providing no more than an inch is cut off
[19:25] <bencrisford1> the head'll be there
[19:25] <bencrisford1> and it captures the wallpaper well
[19:26] <thorwil> bencrisford1, clipping can happen in the other direction
[19:27] <bencrisford1> all directions shouldnt effect it too badly in my opinion
[19:27] <bencrisford1> but i might have a look at that
[19:27] <thorwil> 1440 x 900, that is 8:5
[19:27] <thorwil> there are both taller and wider aspects in use
[19:27] <bencrisford1> I can scale it for other sizes
[19:28]  * bencrisford1 tries to track down the webmaster of the site he got the picture off...
[19:28] <thorwil> bencrisford1, if it gets packaged, it will be a single size (most likely) ...
[19:28] <bencrisford1> oh :/
[19:28] <thorwil> i made the templates at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Documentation/Backgrounds#Template
[19:28] <thorwil> for this reason
[19:28] <bencrisford1> so I havent done a sterling job then :P
[19:29] <thorwil> bencrisford1, don't worry
[19:30] <thorwil> bencrisford1, it's all fine if you make each mistake only once ;)
[19:30] <bencrisford1> well its my first main contribution really :P
[19:30] <bencrisford1> ive been getting a sore arse from sitting on the fence
[19:30] <bencrisford1> so i decided to get involved
[19:30] <bencrisford1> :)
[19:31] <bencrisford1> shall I put a little notice somewhere that im trying to find out the licensing of the photo, but its not confirmed yet?
[19:31] <bencrisford1> or shall i not put add my submission
[19:31] <bencrisford1> until its sorted
[19:31] <thorwil> yes
[19:32] <thorwil> wait until it's sorted
[19:32] <bencrisford1> not add my submission? :(
[19:32] <SiDi> bencrisford1: by the way
[19:32] <SiDi> please dont use custom fonts when sending mails to the ML ;P
[19:32] <thorwil> bencrisford1, please undersatnd that we have to be carful about copyright/licensing
[19:33] <bencrisford1> I do understand
[19:33] <bencrisford1> SiDi: Ah, sorry about that
[19:33] <bencrisford1> I use yahoo for the ML
[19:33] <bencrisford1> and i dont post much
[19:33] <bencrisford1> Yahoo is very annoying
[19:33] <bencrisford1> >:
[19:33] <SiDi> well, its always weird to have one mail with a different font in the middle of the digest :)
[19:33]  * bencrisford1 didnt mean to :P
[19:33] <SiDi> when i began posting to MLs, i switched to gmail to get an ad-free webmail
[19:34] <bencrisford1> yahoo is weird like that
[19:34] <SiDi> But i'm still doing a lot of crap : posting with a Re : digest subject, or even worse, answering to people instead of the whole list
[19:34] <thorwil> the digest is evil
[19:35] <SiDi> yeh, but its even more evil to have tons of mails to read when im internet-less for 2 days
[19:36] <thorwil> SiDi, how about having all list mail sorted in a folder? as good as a digest, without the Subject issue
[19:37] <SiDi> thorwil: i actually use filters to label the emails
[19:37] <SiDi> but im just upset by the amount of mails when i dont have digests, eventho i removed the digest mode for most of my mls
[19:37] <bencrisford1> SiDi: I use gmail alot too now
[19:37] <bencrisford1> but mainly evolution
[19:37] <bencrisford1> brb
[19:38] <SiDi> bencrisford1: i wish i could use a mail client ;)
[19:39] <SiDi> seriously, they should kickban from opendesktop.org the guy who posted 82 ugly X11 icon themes in 10 days, all converted from customizeyourwindowscrap.com with a damn script
[19:39] <SiDi> xfce-look turned into crappywindowsiconthemes-look.org because of him
[21:02] <Viper550> so for this other distro, I'm trying to aim at a 7-like look for our KDE 4 desktop
[21:08] <SiDi> i honnestly dont find it that fantastic
[21:08] <SiDi> the window's transparency is sexy, the panel too, but the icons are really ugli-ish
[21:09] <Viper550> Ark Linux specifically. We're kinda trying to regen for KDE 4 - dumping Kynaptic and such
[21:14] <Viper550> we REALLY wanna use kpackagekit
[21:26] <Viper550> hey
[21:50] <Viper550> I'm working on KDE 4, and potential default desktops for a distro using it
[22:47] <Viper550> kwwii, you there?
[22:49] <kwwii> Viper550: no, I am at a week long canonical meeting before UDS, so I am not really here
[22:49] <kwwii> I have not read emails for the last 4 days
[22:49] <Viper550> oh
[22:49] <kwwii> and this is my first chance to join chat
[22:50] <kwwii> I will be online as of the weekend, latest
[22:50] <SiDi> heya kwwii :p
[22:50] <kwwii> send me an email if it is really important
[22:50] <kwwii> hey SiDi
[22:50] <SiDi> do they let you eat and drink during your meeting ?
[22:51] <kwwii> hehe, not unless everyone else at the company is also alon g
[22:51] <kwwii> many of out meetings are in rooms without internet
[22:51] <kwwii> so that nobody can go online and miss things
[22:51] <kwwii> anyway, time for sleep now
[22:51] <kwwii> see you all soon, I hope
[22:52] <SiDi> good night then
[22:52] <SiDi> hope its not too hawt in barcelona :p
[22:53] <Viper550> we're plotting out kinda a "calm before the" and "storm" themes for Ark Linux on KDE 4
[23:37] <Viper550> so for Ark Linux, I was kinda thinking about a thunderstorm motif for our kde 4 desktop
[23:56] <SiDi> i dont think you'll find many KDE4 fans here honnestly
[23:59] <Viper550> SiDi, anyway...its probably going to be some storm based motif