[07:39] <barbarian_sargon> hello all
[07:40] <barbarian_sargon> I am trying to get some help installing gtk-gnutella through terminal
[07:41] <barbarian_sargon> a friend of mine helped me do it last time, but he is in bed. And since I re-installed ubuntu, I have to re-install it
[07:42] <barbarian_sargon> is anyone here?
[07:42] <geofft> try "sudo aptitude install gtk-gnutella", and go to #ubuntu instead for any more support questions
[07:42] <geofft> this channel is for ubuntu-development, not ubuntu support :)
[07:42] <barbarian_sargon> oh, ok
[07:42] <barbarian_sargon> sorry
[07:42] <barbarian_sargon> thank you
[13:31] <directhex> hm
[13:35] <directhex> how important is it for ubuntu to have support for every conceivable LANG by default?
[13:36] <directhex> i.e. i can save 800k if we split some of mono's codepage support into Suggests:
[13:48] <directhex> sounds like we're moving the "uncomon" stuff to Suggests:
[13:48] <directhex> uncommon
[13:49] <directhex> i.e. keeping 8859-15 in
[18:21] <vadi2> Hi. Is there any documentation on generating trusted .desktops?
[18:25] <chrisccoulson> what do you mean?
[18:26] <vadi2> Since 9.04, new .desktop files are marked as 'untrusted' by default
[18:26] <chrisccoulson> if you mean by "trusted" that nautilus doesn't bug you about them being not trusted, then they have to have the executable bit set
[18:26] <vadi2> Ah.
[18:28] <vadi2> thanks a bunch
[18:28] <chrisccoulson> you're welcome
[19:39] <geiseri> hi, i am wondering if there is documentation on the exact order that scripts are called during an install/reconfigure and upgrade proces for a debian package.  Chapter 6 of the policy manual confuses me on how they are executed.
[19:40] <ScottK> geiseri: There's a good discussion about it on (IIRC) the Debian Women wiki.  I don't have the exact URL.
[19:40] <maxb> The policy manual is the canonical documentation on this matter
[19:40] <geiseri> ScottK i can google it, thx
[19:40] <ScottK> maxb: Yes, but not the clearest.
[19:40] <geiseri> maxb: im sure it is, that is why i am asking here
[19:41] <geiseri> maxb: since its kind of vauge on the exact order of things during a dpkg-reconfigure of a package.
[19:41] <ScottK> The one I mentioned has been pretty thoroughly reviewed.
[19:41]  * geiseri is searching now
[19:46] <geiseri> ScottK: is this what you had in mind? http://women.debian.org/wiki/English/MaintainerScripts
[19:46] <ScottK> geiseri: Yes.  That's the one.
[19:48] <geiseri> cool, the only thing it is missing is the reconfigure process...
[19:49] <geiseri> my point of confusing is that it seems postinst is called during reconfigure, but i cannot tell if prerm is called too
[20:32] <geiseri> oh another question, what is the sanest way to have something execute on first boot right after a new install?  just add an rc script and remote it when im done running it?
[21:39] <Im> when is the patch for 945 intel support on 9.04 going to be released??
[21:40] <ScottK> Im: #ubuntu-x is probably a better place to ask.
[22:15] <owen1_> how to change the keyboard layout from terminal? "InputDevice" section is commentd on xorg.conf, so maybe there is a new way to change things like this?
[22:23] <ScottK> owen1_: #ubuntu for support questions
[22:25] <geiseri> hrm... is there any way to make the preseed post install script run interactively?
[22:26] <ScottK> geiseri: I think you want to look indo debconf
[22:27] <geiseri> ScottK: i am, but it looks like it runs in the background... i see the log output in the vt4 but the main vt hangs
[22:41] <geiseri> hrm.. it implies that it can run interactive, but it seems like it cannot...  i wonder if it would just be easier to run it at first startup