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Cpudan80nalioth: ping04:01
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Cpudan80nalioth: can I pm you?04:26
naliothCpudan80: let me repeat for the umpteenth time:  "you may pm staff at any time"04:26
Cpudan80lol ok04:26
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Madpilotubottu, intel is <reply>Ubuntu 9.04 has a known regression for some Intel graphics support. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/IntelPerformance and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582 for more information.04:42
ubottuI'll remember that, Madpilot04:42
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ubottuUbuntu 9.04 has a known regression for some Intel graphics support. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/IntelPerformance and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582 for more information.04:42
Madpilotopinions, anyone? surprised this wasn't created earlier04:42
ubottuFloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)06:52
ubottuFloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)06:52
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)06:52
Myrttibrilliant day07:25
FlannelTwas brillig,07:47
Mezand the slithy toves, id gyre and gymble in the wae07:48
Mezall mimsy were the borogroves07:48
Mezand the mome wraths outgrabe07:48
FlannelBeware the Jabberwock, my son!07:49
FlannelThe jaws that bite, the claws that catch!07:49
FlannelBeware the jubjub bird, and shun07:49
Flannelthe frumious Bandersnatch!07:49
MyrttiMez: quoting Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings?07:50
MezLewiss Carroll07:50
Myrttioh, could have mistaken for her or Grunthos the Flatulent07:51
Mezhttp://www.jabberwocky.com/carroll/jabber/jabberwocky.html07:51
* Mez chuckles07:51
Meztrue, but I've always liked it07:51
* Mez can still remember the whole thing word perfect07:52
Myrtti    Putty. Putty. Putty.07:52
Myrtti    Green Putty - Grutty Peen.07:52
Myrtti    Grarmpitutty - Morning!07:52
Myrtti    Pridsummer - Grorning Utty!07:52
Myrttiart.07:52
Mez:D07:52
Mezgood counterpointing of the underlying metaphor there Myrtti 07:53
FlannelMez: http://www.turdhead.com/actionscript-jabberwocky/07:53
Myrttihow hard can it be to make a "Dent this!" button to wordpress? seriously07:54
Myrttistupid argh07:56
Mamarokmorning07:58
FlannelMyrtti: http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/8995/76176216253251242889151.png07:59
FlannelI made it for you!07:59
* Flannel isn't sure that's what she meant though.07:59
Flannelor, is almost certain that's not.  but, still...08:00
MyrttiFlannel: I love you08:00
Myrttino, it's not what I meant08:00
Myrttibut good effort anyway08:00
Myrttihttp://identi.ca/notice/443394508:00
FlannelMyrtti: Oh, I'm sure that's possible!08:00
Myrttiyeah, I'm sure too08:01
Myrttibut I just can't get my head around it08:01
Gary/3/308:01
Garyoooo08:01
Flannelwell, all identica does is send a POST,right?08:01
FlannelGary: eh?08:01
GaryFlannel: pebkac08:01
* Flannel uses neither, so has no idea.08:01
MyrttiFlannel: whohooo http://identi.ca//index.php?action=newnotice&status_textarea=tweet08:02
Flannelerm, I'm not logged in, so ... while I have no idea what that is.  yay!08:03
Myrttibut yeah, it does what it should08:03
Myrttibrilliant08:04
elkyFlannel, if it's anything like twitter, then yes.08:24
FlannelHi Bacta, how can we help you today?10:46
BactaI would like my ban removed please10:47
FlannelBacta: Why should we remove the ban?10:49
BactaBecause I'm of no threat to your channel10:49
BactaAnd Iĺl try to judge the humour of the ops a bit better in future10:50
ikoniaBacta: this has been discussed and at this time the ban will not be removed10:50
Bactaawesome10:50
ikoniaBacta: is there anything else you need ?10:51
BactaNo but I think youŕe a couple of cans short. Thanks anyway10:52
ikoniaanyone got any cans ?10:52
ikonia@mark bacta insulting again10:52
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bazhanghehe10:52
bazhangI can do the can-can10:52
* jussi01 hands ikonia a couple of cans... of beer10:52
ikonianice !10:53
ikoniathat would be a nice treat10:53
bazhangvampires in #freenode trying to get a cloak, presumably to ban evade10:53
elkyhe may come across reasonable, but he can switch that on at the drop of the hat. and switch it off just as easily.10:53
ikoniaelky: that wasn't reasonable10:53
elkyikonia, <Bacta> And Iĺl try to judge the humour of the ops a bit better in future <-- is him trying to sound like he's changed.10:53
ikoniaoh, fail then10:54
arandfloodbots seem to fail in the > #ubuntu redirect, (mibbit user)12:17
elkythey dont send you on automatically12:22
elkyit requires an extra level of human interaction as well, to weed out bots/scripts12:22
elky* arand (i=8afbf05d@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-72e6092f31a30c90) has joined #ubuntu-proxy-users12:23
elky<FloodBot1> arand: Try again joining #ubuntu, you've been granted temporary access from your web gateway. Don't leave this channel until you've joined! (Also, on some browsers it may take up to a minute or more to sync to #ubuntu, so please be patient for a while before killing the browser and trying again)12:23
arandI'm aware of that, bad wording on my part... I still get redirected to #-proxy after the invite messages, when I try to enter #ubuntu, I've tried logging on and off, and rejoined the channel and #ubuntu several times.12:31
arandpresuming the problem lies in the exception creation not working, rather.12:32
Myrttijoin now?12:33
Myrtti*shrug*12:33
arandworks now.12:33
arandwas there something, or just a glitch?12:34
atleftest me12:35
Myrttiatlef: you left too early from the other channel12:38
Myrttioh12:38
Myrttiactually12:38
atlefsorry to bother you, but i can not seem to connect to #ubuntu, followed instructions https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit for my irc client. do not understand what is wrong, as i can connect to irc.spotchat.org and irc.homelien.no without problems12:38
Myrttiatlef: did you connect to freenode on port 8001?12:38
atlefwell i added { address = "irc.freenode.net"; chatnet = "Freenode"; port = "8001"; } to my irssi12:39
atlef*config12:39
Myrttiatlef: you are aware that fiddling with the config file is unsupported method of configuring it?12:39
Myrttiatlef: did you reconnect after modifying the file and/or did you reload the config?12:40
atlefeh, no. it says what to do at the link i was given12:40
atlefi closed my terminal, and opened it again to connect12:41
Myrttioh good god almighty12:41
Myrttiif the link tells you to modify the config file, then it's wrong12:41
* Myrtti checks12:41
atlefok12:41
atlefgood that i came here then :-)12:42
ubottuFloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (CTCP/NOTICE)12:50
ubottuFloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (CTCP/NOTICE)12:50
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (CTCP/NOTICE)12:50
MyrttiBANLIST IS FULL12:53
Picioye12:53
PiciI have some to remove, 12:53
* Pici waits for minefield to restart12:54
Myrttihttp://paste.ubuntu.com/177150/12:54
PiciMyrtti: whats that?12:55
MyrttiPici: I scribbled that to make checking of my own current bans easier12:56
PiciMyrtti: oh, neat12:56
Myrttifigured others might find it useful as well12:56
Myrtti!ops | banlist in #ubuntu is squeaking full12:57
ubottubanlist in #ubuntu is squeaking full: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, , elky,  imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, Madpilot, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso,  PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpds, bazhang, jussi01, Flannel or ikonia!12:57
ubottuMyrtti called the ops in #ubuntu-ops (banlist in #ubuntu is squeaking full)12:57
MyrttiPlease, check your own bans and remove what you can12:57
PiciI wrote a script that reads in a file with one ban mask per line and outputs the necessary /mode -bbbb [stuff] commands12:58
PiciHandy for situations like this12:59
elkythe mibbit bans are the problem. there's a zillion exemptions in there.13:02
PiciI'll take care of those too13:03
elkysome of them old enough to have been set by servers, not bots.13:03
ikoniaI'll clear down in 10 minutes13:04
ikoniajust finishing off something13:04
elkythere's a heck of alot of #ubuntu-ops redirects too13:06
Myrtti/mode -e ienorand!i=8afbf05d@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1971ac66a18d2e4713:06
Myrtti?13:06
Myrttilol, even vertix is there13:06
Myrttihttp://paste.ubuntu.com/177157/13:06
elkycan we have a filter out of all masks with 'dyn' in them please?13:07
ikoniaMyrtti: klined so not a problem13:07
Myrttiikonia: but the exception is still there taking space from bans13:07
ikoniayup, I'll remove13:08
elkyikonia, for now anyway. he's got a nick ban in there though, and he's yet to change afaik.13:08
ikoniahouse keeping in 10 minutes13:08
elkyeverything >48hrs with 'dyn' in it is to go13:09
ikoniaseems sensible13:09
Picinote: I'm going to unexempt all the mib_ excemptions, expect a bit of flooding13:09
ikoniaooh yes please. 13:10
elkyPici, no mib_ in there currently?13:10
PiciMyrtti: ^^13:10
Picielky: correct13:10
elkyPici, something's not un-excempting properly then...13:10
PiciMyrtti: i.e: don't worry about removing them one by one, I have them all in my clipboard13:10
Picielky: indeed13:10
MyrttiPici: took off only the ones set by the server13:10
PiciMyrtti: okay :)13:10
Myrttinot by the floodbots13:11
Myrttifirefox just committed suicide13:11
Picistupid bot13:11
Picielky: 20 lines, 4 excempts per line13:13
Piciexempts too13:13
elkyPici, no freaking wonder the list was full.13:15
elkyPici, i wonder... does it detect non-/quit departures properly. such as kills/klines.13:16
elkytopyli, in a mood tonight?13:46
topylii guess. sorry13:46
Myrttioh god coffee!13:46
topylibetter go away i guess before i remove everybody13:46
elkytopyli, probably13:46
topyliaye13:47
* elky cuddles topyli13:47
elkyi'm off to beddy byes.13:47
Picigoodnight!13:47
topylinighty night elky 13:47
ikoniaMyrtti: got your magic ban list script to hand14:16
PiciMyrtti: Is that a perl script?14:16
MyrttiPici: no, just irssi alias with a bit of sed/awk/grep magic14:17
ikoniait's sweet14:26
MyrttiI could publish it14:26
Myrttineed to figure out14:27
LjLwas there an attack or something? couple of people in -unregged14:47
PiciYes14:51
LjLwhat sort of attack, the funny sort?14:52
Pici07:50:46 <FloodBot1> -WARNING: Channel CTCP/NOTICE by Mahone (#Parliament #parliament #parliament #parliament #prisonbreak #Parliament #parliament #parliament #parliament #prisonbreak), banned14:52
PiciExcept he wasn't banned because the banlist was full.14:53
LjLoh lord.14:53
LjLso an unfunny attack that became funny because of opfail.14:53
PiciI alone removed a little over a hundred expired mibbit exempts.14:53
LjLif i knew what made the bots warn about full banlist when it wasn't really full, i'd restore that warning.14:55
LjLPici: check funny stat14:57
LjLPici: select Date, SUM(CASE WHEN Word='jaunty' THEN Count END), SUM(CASE WHEN Word='intrepid' THEN Count END), SUM(CASE WHEN Word='hardy' THEN Count END), SUM(CASE WHEN Word='gutsy' THEN Count END), SUM(CASE WHEN Word='feisty' THEN Count END), SUM(CASE WHEN Word='edgy' THEN Count END), SUM(CASE WHEN Word='dapper' THEN Count END) from words group by date order by date14:57
LjL(suggest a moving average of 15)14:58
PiciLjL: Interesting15:01
LjLPici: a bit discomforting too15:01
PiciLjL: You mean the harsh decline for the past two releases?15:02
LjLPici: yeah. the peak for Intrepid was lower than the peak for Warty.15:02
LjLi haven't included Warty in the query because it triggers a bug in the graph engine =)15:02
LjLunless intrepid and jaunty are more misspelled than previous releases... :P15:04
MamarokLjL: well, we hade a jaundice once...15:06
Mamarokhad*15:07
LjLMamarok: i'm sure you did, but what's the frenquency of that compared to Fiesty or Gusty? :)15:07
Mamarokwell, some users say Jack for Jaunty or Ibex for Intrepid15:08
MamarokIbex is much shorter, so...15:08
PiciI've seen a lot more JJ's for thise release than for others.15:08
Mamarokand the mis-spelling of Ibex is frequent15:08
Pici!interpid15:08
ubottuIt is spelt InTREPid15:08
Mamarok:)15:09
Mamarok!janty15:09
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about janty15:09
LjLyeah i've tried checking Ibex instead of Intrepid, but it's relatively marginal15:09
LjLbesides it's reflected also in the total number of lines, unique nicks, and a few other statistics one can make. it just shows most strikingly in the distribution names usage statistic15:11
LjL(by the way if anyone else here want to access these stats, just pm me for the url, can't make it public)15:16
PiciLjL: Was the bug you were referring to when the moving average color doesn't match the detail color?15:21
LjLPici: yep15:21
PiciGoing to a short meeting, hopefully things don't blow up here.15:58
LjL*bang*16:00
* genii investigates the coffee urn16:13
* jussi01 investigates the back of his eyelids...16:13
* LjL investigates people /meing on #ubuntu-ops16:14
* Myrtti burps16:27
Pici:O16:27
Myrttitoo much coffee16:31
geniiI got a "coffee" highlight...16:42
geniiLunch. Around but /away17:08
Pici/around17:09
geniiPici: There is an /around            ?17:09
Picigenii: /asquare17:10
genii"* Error: AROUND "17:10
geniiBah!17:10
PiciDon't take everything I say seriously :P17:10
LjLs/everything/anything/17:11
Myrttihow can I delete a line in vi?17:11
LjLMyrtti: no one will tell you. it's your punishment for using vi to find out.17:12
Picictrl-k works in nano17:12
MyrttiLjL: i don't have any other proper editor on n80017:12
LjLMyrtti: :dl17:12
MyrttiLjL: thx17:13
geniibah. dajhorn suggesting setting root passwd etc etc.17:15
genii"<dajhorn> Bodsda: Set a root password, login as root, and then use `telinit` to switch to single user mode."17:16
LjLyeah17:16
LjLif you actually want to switch to single user mode, though17:16
LjLi'm not sure there's much of another way?17:16
geniisudo telinit 117:16
LjLwill that give you a root shell?17:17
Myrttiwhee!17:17
Myrttii can haz vpnc + sip nao17:18
geniiLjL: Experimenting right now on another box to find out this burning Q17:18
Pici"I looked online on how to disable xorg.  Now my desktop won't open"17:19
geniiLjL: Damn. Locked the box up17:20
LjLgenii: suspected you would... with the mixture of upstart and lack of a root account, this was unlikely to work17:21
* genii grumbles a bit17:22
geniiWeird. Why does !php go to !lamp   or so?17:24
Piciphp is part of lamp17:26
geniiYou need lamp to use php17:27
geniiYou *don't* need lamp ...17:27
PiciIf you think it should be something else, make the suggestion, then we'll shoot it down.17:27
geniiHehe17:28
geniiOK lemme think about it first.17:31
screamsayonarahello, my name is stef and i would again like to request that i be unbanned from the offtopic channel17:41
screamsayonarai know exactly why swearing is wrong, and i understand 100% why its not acceptable, i didnt realise it was like that, im used to another server17:41
mneptok@login17:42
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screamsayonarai just really want to have g rated conversations about how much i love ubuntu17:42
screamsayonarawith other nerds..17:42
ikoniascreamsayonara: why once you where told about your langauge in one channel did you move to another one and start using the same language17:43
screamsayonaraikonia: because i was drunk and i am a punk and a linguistics student17:43
* mneptok was about to ask the same thing17:43
screamsayonarai am also an intelligent person17:44
ikoniascreamsayonara: ahhh yes, this old argument17:44
screamsayonarait was an isolated thing, 17:44
* mneptok remembers when punk was cool. mneptok is in his 40s.17:44
ikoniaI remember this linguistics student agrument again17:44
screamsayonarareally dudes, i am a valuablew intellect17:44
ikoniascreamsayonara: from my point of view I won't remove the ban from #ubuntu as I don't believe your promises17:44
screamsayonarai just like pushing the boundaries and im from austnet17:44
screamsayonarairc is to me, weird 17:44
ikoniascreamsayonara: you where told 4 - 5 times in each channel to mind your language and you kept going17:44
PiciI don't believe  that there was an #ubuntu ban.17:44
ikoniaPici: oh, did I just kick him17:45
ikoniafair enough then17:45
screamsayonaraim a girl17:45
screamsayonaraand it hasnt happened again17:45
ikoniasorry17:45
screamsayonarai join ubuntu for support sometimes17:45
ikoniait hasn't happened again because you've been banned from the channel17:45
screamsayonaraand to learn17:45
mneptokscreamsayonara: if what you say is true, then it should be very easy to express yourself without profanity. thereby adding gravitas to your words and opinions17:45
screamsayonarain #ubuntu, -evudently-17:45
screamsayonaraevidently.17:45
ikoniayup, you've lasted an hour without speaking at all17:46
ikoniait's pici's ban anyway, so I'll leave alone17:46
screamsayonaraits autojoin, i usually on come on irc for that17:46
PiciIts been a month anyway.17:46
screamsayonaratonight however i have a night off from writing essays17:46
mneptokscreamsayonara: why would your gender be important in this discussion?17:46
PiciI'm going to remove the ban, if we have an issue then it gets reapplied.17:46
screamsayonaraso im dealing with my personal affairs which include but are not limited to17:46
Picimneptok: ikonia said 'him'17:46
screamsayonaramy learning ubuntu!17:46
screamsayonaraim studying to be a computational linguist17:47
screamsayonarai need to learn ubuntu17:47
screamsayonarai WANT to learn linux17:47
PiciWe're not disputing that.17:47
screamsayonarai can conmtrol my mouth if i know i need to! i didnt realise17:47
screamsayonarait was such a big deal17:47
ikoniadespite multiple warnings17:47
mneptokscreamsayonara: if you want to learn Ubuntu, then Step 1 is learning the philosophy behind it. swearing and defaming and not following polite requests to stop are wholly out of line with that philosophy.17:47
screamsayonaraand given the time ive had to think about, and my repeated attempts to get myself 17:48
screamsayonarasome room17:48
screamsayonaraah17:48
screamsayonarabasically look17:48
ikoniawell, pici said he's removing the ban17:48
ikoniait's not a problem17:48
screamsayonaraoh sorry i didnt see that17:48
screamsayonarai hvnt fixed my text colours properly17:48
screamsayonara:\17:48
* screamsayonara feels dumb17:49
PiciLike I said, if we have the same problem in the future, we'll apply the ban again.17:49
screamsayonarathanks a lor17:49
screamsayonara*lot17:49
screamsayonarahappy awesome people-ing17:49
PiciIts been a month anyway.17:49
ikoniaas you said, can always be re-applied 17:50
mneptokwhy is it always the Aussies and language?17:50
* mneptok runs from elky 17:50
ikoniahe's still not joined the channel ?17:52
Picinope17:52
* Pici shrugs17:52
ikoniaha ha ha17:52
geniiPHP is an HTML-embedded scripting language. A command-line only version can be installed in Ubuntu with the php5-cli package (see18:03
genii!info php5-cli for package detail ). PHP is also a component of a larger Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP combined installation (see !lamp ).18:03
ubottu'for' is not a valid distribution: dapper, dapper-backports, hardy, hardy-backports, intrepid, intrepid-backports, jaunty, jaunty-backports, karmic, karmic-backports, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, medibuntu, partner18:03
geniiBah18:03
Piciheh18:03
geniiPHP is an HTML-embedded scripting language. A command-line only version can be installed in Ubuntu with the php5-cli package (see !info php5-cli for package detail ). PHP is also a component of a larger Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP combined installation (see !lamp ).18:04
LjLif we have a php-specific factoid, it should link to https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/php5.html18:04
geniiLjL:  It assumes there also that you want to run a full-blown apache setup. Which is not always the case. 18:06
LjLgenii: no it doesn't, it mentions php5-cli18:06
geniiLjL: "To install PHP5 you can enter the following command in the terminal prompt:  sudo apt-get install php5 libapache2-mod-php518:07
LjLgenii: it might not be wording it perfectly, but it says you can install php5-cli for command-line running, and php5-cli for out-of-apache running18:08
LjLanyway, i was merely saying that if we are to have a dedicated PHP factoid, it would be absurd not to link to the official guide about PHP18:08
geniiI agree, yes18:09
geniiWork needs me a few minutes. I'll reword the suggestion shortly18:12
Seeker`LjL: can I had stats?18:15
Myrttime too plz18:16
LjLgenii: i'd make the last part shorter by saying something like "For integrating PHP in a server, see !LAMP", and possibly avoid the !info thing (or we'd do that for all packages). put the package name in "quotes" as that's what's most other factoids do.18:18
geniiPHP is an HTML-embedded scripting language. A command-line only version can be installed in Ubuntu with the "php5-cli" package. See also !lamp for integrated server PHP. The Ubuntu server PHP5 guide is found at https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/php5.html18:26
geniiLjL: ^18:29
LjLyeah you don't have to say it to me, i don't have bot access :)18:30
* genii pokes at jussi0118:30
Picigenii: You have bot access, don't you?18:30
geniiPici: No. We went trough this 2 other times at least18:31
genii*through18:31
PiciWhy?18:31
LjLby the way, there is a #kubuntu version of those stats being uploaded, same URL but with a "k" in front of "ircgraphs"18:31
LjLit's currently only uploaded up to 2006ish18:31
geniiPici: Probably because I'd abuse it18:31
Pici!no PHP is <reply> PHP is an HTML-embedded scripting language. A command-line only version can be installed in Ubuntu with the "php5-cli" package. See also !lamp for integrated server PHP. The Ubuntu server PHP5 guide is found at https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/php5.html18:31
ubottuI'll remember that Pici18:31
LjLPici: another stat that shows that #ubuntu isn't really working lately18:57
LjLselect Date, sum(case when word='please' or word='pls' or word='plz' then Count END), sum(case when word='thanks' or word='thx' or word='ty' then Count END) from Words group by date order by date18:57
PiciWhat, too many people saying thanks?18:58
Picier, nevermind18:59
LjLPici: too few, compared to the amount of people who say please...18:59
LjLconsider the "pleases" as questions and the "thanks" as answered ones, and it is worrying.19:00
LjLof course it's a bit of a stretch to just consider them that way19:00
geniiWell, some people also say "please help me!"   etc over and over but people generally only say "thanks" or so once19:01
LjLsure, it's a biased statistic in a number of way19:01
LjLit definitely shows "something has changed" since hardy, at the very least19:01
LjLand i have trouble thinking it's changed in a positive way19:02
Picithe count of nicks per day hasn't decreased much over the past few releases, disconting a little bit on release days though19:08
LjLPici: yes, but the speaking has. i interpret it as if people are still seeking support in #ubuntu more or less as they always have, but... aren't quite finding it as they used to.19:09
geniiI tend to agree with that interpretation19:10
LjLPici: besides, it hasn't "decreased much", but keep in mind it was a distinctly ascending trend earlier19:10
LjLof course you can't, uh, ascend forever, and it wouldn't even be a good thing - but.19:10
LjL#kubuntu statistics have finished uploading, by the way19:11
LjL(and i'm afraid to look at them)19:12
geniiMy take is I think people are getting less help specifically configuring their applications, but about the same help as always installing/troubleshooting core probs19:12
LjL(and there was a reason why i was)19:12
Piciselect Date, sum(lines) from messages group by date, order by date = steadily decreasing19:13
LjLabout kubuntu? yeah19:13
Piciyes19:13
PiciIts intresting to see that as hobbsee's number of lines in the channel decreased, genii's increased.19:15
* Myrtti doesn't want to know19:15
PiciLjL: Where are you getting the data for these?19:17
LjLPici: irclogs.19:17
PiciLjL: .ubuntu.com?19:17
LjLyeah19:17
Piciokay19:17
* jussi01 waves tiredly19:17
LjLthere are only a few gaps, they're mostly complete19:17
Seeker`hi19:18
Picihi19:18
jussi01!away > phoenixz19:28
jussi01cripes this connection here is annoying...19:28
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)19:48
ubottuFloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)19:48
Myrttiwe seriously need to redo atleast a part of the fixdccexploit wikipage19:52
PiciWhich part?19:54
Myrttithe irssi config part and the Colloquy part19:55
Myrttialso the chatzilla part19:56
MyrttiI can do the irssi and colloquy20:03
Myrttithe long term solution they offer for irssi is very, very very unsupported by irssi community20:04
tsimpsonubottu: Admin capability add editfactoids genii 20:14
ubottuError: I can't find editfactoids in my user database. If you didn't give a user name, then I might not know what your user is, and you'll need to identify before this command might work.20:14
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)20:14
tsimpsoneek20:14
tsimpsonubottu: Admin capability add genii editfactoids20:15
ubottuThe operation succeeded.20:15
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)20:15
tsimpsongenii: welcome to the editors club :)20:15
Piciubottu: Don't worry dear, we don't.20:15
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)20:15
FlannelMyrtti: What's the long term solution for irssi?20:22
PiciFlannel: Don't modify the config file directly, use irssi itself to change the settings20:23
MyrttiFlannel: I edited and saved20:23
Myrttidid Chatzilla20:25
Myrtti22:10      -port: This is pretty much like the port argument later, 20:26
Myrtti22:10             except this can be used to modify existing server's 20:26
Myrtti22:10             port.20:26
Myrttithe catchphrase of the #irssi channels is "the config file is humanreadable only by accident and shouldn't be fiddled with. Doing so will void the warranty."20:27
Myrttihttp://www.flickr.com/photos/whz/3551585280/?ref=nf wheeeeee!20:34
Piciheh, I liked the fly-through at the end20:36
Myrttihttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit?action=diff&rev2=39&rev1=3620:40
ubottuIn #ubuntu-offtopic, dmsuperman said: !pici is <reply> Pici is stuck in a factoid factory! Send halp!20:40
PiciI got an email about it20:40
MyrttiI knows :-)20:41
Piciokay :)20:41
ubottueseven73 called the ops in #ubuntu ()20:41
ubottusebsebseb called the ops in #ubuntu (bastrakius)20:41
FlannelHowdy dood, how can we help you today?20:51
doodi need help setting up wpa_supplicant , ive tryed a few times in the last week or so and its still a brick wall20:51
doodi need wpa_supplicant to start automatically on startup and connect to the AP20:52
Seeker`you need to join #ubuntu for support20:52
LjLthis is not the support channel though, you were redirected from there to here for some reason.20:52
LjLhave you checked out the channel guidelines?20:52
doodyeah i noticed that20:52
doodnah 20:52
LjLwell then perhaps it might be a good time to do that20:52
LjL!etiquette > dood    (dood, see the private message from ubottu)20:53
geniitsimpson: I promise not to abuse editing rights :)20:53
doodwhy ?20:53
LjLdood: well, because i assume you were redirected here for breaking them somehow, and because you currently cannot be answered in #ubuntu anyway20:53
doodis that why i was redirected ?20:53
doodi dont remember ever getting banned or anything20:53
doodcan you see if im banned or somthing ?20:54
Myrtti@bansearch dood 20:54
ubottuMatch: *!*@72.170.107.235!#ubuntu-ops by elky in #ubuntu on May 10 2009 08:22:31 (ID: 13325)20:54
doodhuh 20:54
LjL(why does it show as removed btw?)20:54
doodwell shoot , i didnt even know that20:54
PiciIt looks like you were redirected because your odd behavior in #ubuntu.  You claimed you were drunk.20:54
doodwell im ready to behave now , may i re-enter ubuntu ?20:54
PiciBut that doesn't excuse your behavior20:54
doodno it does not20:55
LjLhow can you promise to behave if you don't know what the guidelines say about behavior?20:56
doodok so what can i do to rectify my actions and get back into #ubuntu, AA teaches me to make direct ammends where ever possible , how can i make ammends20:56
FlannelLjL: It shows the later ban in here as removed20:58
Seeker`was the later ban removed because he was unbanned, orb ecause elky didn't want 2 bans set20:59
LjLah yes sorry, i was confused.21:00
doodBe respectful. The Ubuntu community and its members treat one another with respect. Everyone can make a valuable contribution to Ubuntu. We may not always agree, but disagreement is no excuse for poor behaviour and poor manners. We might all experience some frustration now and then, but we cannot allow that frustration to turn into a personal attack. It's important to remember that a community where people feel uncomfortable or threatened is not a product21:00
doodive one. We expect members of the Ubuntu community to be respectful when dealing with other contributors as well as with people outside the Ubuntu project, and with users of Ubuntu21:00
LjLerr, yes, we know what that says...21:01
doodand now so do i :D21:01
doodis there anything else i can do to make direct ammends ?21:01
doodi just wanted to say for you to keep in mind considering the meaning behind ubuntu , simply put , live and let live , forgive and forget21:03
LjLperhaps that's put a bit... *too* simply21:04
doodthe concept is not complicated 21:04
doodit is that simple21:04
LjLok, as you wish21:05
doodi apologize for my behavior on the 10th day of may towards whomever it was , and i promise that i will be respectfull and courtius to people in that channel in the future21:05
LjLanyway i'm more pressed to make sure you understand the specific implementation of the Code of Conduct that is the IRC Guidelines21:05
LjLand the other related pieces of information in the bot21:06
doodi have done my part to make direct ammends to the ubuntu community , it is now your part to accept or not accept my sincere apology for which is your decision21:07
doodthere is nothing more i can do to make direct ammends21:07
doodive read the terms from the bot21:07
LjLyou may have to wait for the op who originally banned you to review the ban21:08
doodand that op was elky correct ?21:08
LjLcorrect21:09
geniiWork /away21:11
seanwHey there, what's the cmd to get ubotu to msg someone the "please don't use line breaks as punctuation" message?21:24
Myrtti!enter > seanw 21:25
ubottuseanw, please see my private message21:25
seanwty :)21:25
seanw!enter > nevermore21:25
seanwThanks!21:25
Myrtti!search intel22:55
ubottuFound: what, intel, aiglx, intel <reply>the intel driver in jaunty*, effects, snd_hda_intel, hdaintel, intelbrick*, intelhda22:55
Myrttilolwhut?!22:55
Flannelintel <reply>the intel driver in jaunty22:56
Flanneloh, forgotten22:56
Flannel!-intel <reply>the intel driver in jaunty22:56
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about intel <reply22:56
Flannelaww22:56
ubottuIn ubottu, NgD said: my name is aercio23:03
mneptokhis name is Robert Paulsen.23:15
ubottugordonjcp called the ops in #ubuntu (crisnoh)23:41
LjLmeh.23:42
LjLthey don't use it when it's needed...23:42
LjLalways the same23:42
=== jdong_ is now known as j-dizzle
Flannelfink, fanks?  really?23:47

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