[04:01] nalioth: ping === jdong__ is now known as j-dizzle [04:25] Cpudan80: pong? [04:26] nalioth: can I pm you? [04:26] Cpudan80: let me repeat for the umpteenth time: "you may pm staff at any time" [04:26] lol ok [04:36] @login [04:36] The operation succeeded. [04:36] !intel [04:36] Sorry, I don't know anything about intel [04:42] ubottu, intel is Ubuntu 9.04 has a known regression for some Intel graphics support. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/IntelPerformance and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582 for more information. [04:42] I'll remember that, Madpilot [04:42] !intel [04:42] Ubuntu 9.04 has a known regression for some Intel graphics support. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/IntelPerformance and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582 for more information. [04:42] opinions, anyone? surprised this wasn't created earlier [06:52] FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [06:52] FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [06:52] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [07:25] brilliant day [07:47] Twas brillig, [07:48] and the slithy toves, id gyre and gymble in the wae [07:48] all mimsy were the borogroves [07:48] and the mome wraths outgrabe [07:49] Beware the Jabberwock, my son! [07:49] The jaws that bite, the claws that catch! [07:49] Beware the jubjub bird, and shun [07:49] the frumious Bandersnatch! [07:50] Mez: quoting Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings? [07:50] Lewiss Carroll [07:51] oh, could have mistaken for her or Grunthos the Flatulent [07:51] http://www.jabberwocky.com/carroll/jabber/jabberwocky.html [07:51] * Mez chuckles [07:51] true, but I've always liked it [07:52] * Mez can still remember the whole thing word perfect [07:52] Putty. Putty. Putty. [07:52] Green Putty - Grutty Peen. [07:52] Grarmpitutty - Morning! [07:52] Pridsummer - Grorning Utty! [07:52] art. [07:52] :D [07:53] good counterpointing of the underlying metaphor there Myrtti [07:53] Mez: http://www.turdhead.com/actionscript-jabberwocky/ [07:54] how hard can it be to make a "Dent this!" button to wordpress? seriously [07:56] stupid argh [07:58] morning [07:59] Myrtti: http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/8995/76176216253251242889151.png [07:59] I made it for you! [07:59] * Flannel isn't sure that's what she meant though. [08:00] or, is almost certain that's not. but, still... [08:00] Flannel: I love you [08:00] no, it's not what I meant [08:00] but good effort anyway [08:00] http://identi.ca/notice/4433945 [08:00] Myrtti: Oh, I'm sure that's possible! [08:01] yeah, I'm sure too [08:01] but I just can't get my head around it [08:01] /3/3 [08:01] oooo [08:01] well, all identica does is send a POST,right? [08:01] Gary: eh? [08:01] Flannel: pebkac [08:01] * Flannel uses neither, so has no idea. [08:02] Flannel: whohooo http://identi.ca//index.php?action=newnotice&status_textarea=tweet [08:03] erm, I'm not logged in, so ... while I have no idea what that is. yay! [08:03] but yeah, it does what it should [08:04] brilliant [08:24] Flannel, if it's anything like twitter, then yes. [10:46] Hi Bacta, how can we help you today? [10:47] I would like my ban removed please [10:49] Bacta: Why should we remove the ban? [10:49] Because I'm of no threat to your channel [10:50] And Iĺl try to judge the humour of the ops a bit better in future [10:50] Bacta: this has been discussed and at this time the ban will not be removed [10:50] awesome [10:51] Bacta: is there anything else you need ? [10:52] No but I think youŕe a couple of cans short. Thanks anyway [10:52] anyone got any cans ? [10:52] @mark bacta insulting again [10:52] The operation succeeded. [10:52] hehe [10:52] I can do the can-can [10:52] * jussi01 hands ikonia a couple of cans... of beer [10:53] nice ! [10:53] that would be a nice treat [10:53] vampires in #freenode trying to get a cloak, presumably to ban evade [10:53] he may come across reasonable, but he can switch that on at the drop of the hat. and switch it off just as easily. [10:53] elky: that wasn't reasonable [10:53] ikonia, And Iĺl try to judge the humour of the ops a bit better in future <-- is him trying to sound like he's changed. [10:54] oh, fail then [12:17] floodbots seem to fail in the > #ubuntu redirect, (mibbit user) [12:22] they dont send you on automatically [12:22] it requires an extra level of human interaction as well, to weed out bots/scripts [12:23] * arand (i=8afbf05d@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-72e6092f31a30c90) has joined #ubuntu-proxy-users [12:23] arand: Try again joining #ubuntu, you've been granted temporary access from your web gateway. Don't leave this channel until you've joined! (Also, on some browsers it may take up to a minute or more to sync to #ubuntu, so please be patient for a while before killing the browser and trying again) [12:31] I'm aware of that, bad wording on my part... I still get redirected to #-proxy after the invite messages, when I try to enter #ubuntu, I've tried logging on and off, and rejoined the channel and #ubuntu several times. [12:32] presuming the problem lies in the exception creation not working, rather. [12:33] join now? [12:33] *shrug* [12:33] works now. [12:34] was there something, or just a glitch? [12:35] test me [12:38] atlef: you left too early from the other channel [12:38] oh [12:38] actually [12:38] sorry to bother you, but i can not seem to connect to #ubuntu, followed instructions https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit for my irc client. do not understand what is wrong, as i can connect to irc.spotchat.org and irc.homelien.no without problems [12:38] atlef: did you connect to freenode on port 8001? [12:39] well i added { address = "irc.freenode.net"; chatnet = "Freenode"; port = "8001"; } to my irssi [12:39] *config [12:39] atlef: you are aware that fiddling with the config file is unsupported method of configuring it? [12:40] atlef: did you reconnect after modifying the file and/or did you reload the config? [12:40] eh, no. it says what to do at the link i was given [12:41] i closed my terminal, and opened it again to connect [12:41] oh good god almighty [12:41] if the link tells you to modify the config file, then it's wrong [12:41] * Myrtti checks [12:41] ok [12:42] good that i came here then :-) [12:50] FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (CTCP/NOTICE) [12:50] FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (CTCP/NOTICE) [12:50] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (CTCP/NOTICE) [12:53] BANLIST IS FULL [12:53] oye [12:53] I have some to remove, [12:54] * Pici waits for minefield to restart [12:54] http://paste.ubuntu.com/177150/ [12:55] Myrtti: whats that? [12:56] Pici: I scribbled that to make checking of my own current bans easier [12:56] Myrtti: oh, neat [12:56] figured others might find it useful as well [12:57] !ops | banlist in #ubuntu is squeaking full [12:57] banlist in #ubuntu is squeaking full: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, , elky, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, Madpilot, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpds, bazhang, jussi01, Flannel or ikonia! [12:57] Myrtti called the ops in #ubuntu-ops (banlist in #ubuntu is squeaking full) [12:57] Please, check your own bans and remove what you can [12:58] I wrote a script that reads in a file with one ban mask per line and outputs the necessary /mode -bbbb [stuff] commands [12:59] Handy for situations like this [13:02] the mibbit bans are the problem. there's a zillion exemptions in there. [13:03] I'll take care of those too [13:03] some of them old enough to have been set by servers, not bots. [13:04] I'll clear down in 10 minutes [13:04] just finishing off something [13:06] there's a heck of alot of #ubuntu-ops redirects too [13:06] /mode -e ienorand!i=8afbf05d@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1971ac66a18d2e47 [13:06] ? [13:06] lol, even vertix is there [13:06] http://paste.ubuntu.com/177157/ [13:07] can we have a filter out of all masks with 'dyn' in them please? [13:07] Myrtti: klined so not a problem [13:07] ikonia: but the exception is still there taking space from bans [13:08] yup, I'll remove [13:08] ikonia, for now anyway. he's got a nick ban in there though, and he's yet to change afaik. [13:08] house keeping in 10 minutes [13:09] everything >48hrs with 'dyn' in it is to go [13:09] seems sensible [13:09] note: I'm going to unexempt all the mib_ excemptions, expect a bit of flooding [13:10] ooh yes please. [13:10] Pici, no mib_ in there currently? [13:10] Myrtti: ^^ [13:10] elky: correct [13:10] Pici, something's not un-excempting properly then... [13:10] Myrtti: i.e: don't worry about removing them one by one, I have them all in my clipboard [13:10] elky: indeed [13:10] Pici: took off only the ones set by the server [13:10] Myrtti: okay :) [13:11] not by the floodbots [13:11] firefox just committed suicide [13:11] stupid bot [13:13] elky: 20 lines, 4 excempts per line [13:13] exempts too [13:15] Pici, no freaking wonder the list was full. [13:16] Pici, i wonder... does it detect non-/quit departures properly. such as kills/klines. [13:46] topyli, in a mood tonight? [13:46] i guess. sorry [13:46] oh god coffee! [13:46] better go away i guess before i remove everybody [13:46] topyli, probably [13:47] aye [13:47] * elky cuddles topyli [13:47] i'm off to beddy byes. [13:47] goodnight! [13:47] nighty night elky [14:16] Myrtti: got your magic ban list script to hand [14:16] Myrtti: Is that a perl script? [14:17] Pici: no, just irssi alias with a bit of sed/awk/grep magic [14:26] it's sweet [14:26] I could publish it [14:27] need to figure out [14:47] was there an attack or something? couple of people in -unregged [14:51] Yes [14:52] what sort of attack, the funny sort? [14:52] 07:50:46 -WARNING: Channel CTCP/NOTICE by Mahone (#Parliament #parliament #parliament #parliament #prisonbreak #Parliament #parliament #parliament #parliament #prisonbreak), banned [14:53] Except he wasn't banned because the banlist was full. [14:53] oh lord. [14:53] so an unfunny attack that became funny because of opfail. [14:53] I alone removed a little over a hundred expired mibbit exempts. [14:55] if i knew what made the bots warn about full banlist when it wasn't really full, i'd restore that warning. [14:57] Pici: check funny stat [14:57] Pici: select Date, SUM(CASE WHEN Word='jaunty' THEN Count END), SUM(CASE WHEN Word='intrepid' THEN Count END), SUM(CASE WHEN Word='hardy' THEN Count END), SUM(CASE WHEN Word='gutsy' THEN Count END), SUM(CASE WHEN Word='feisty' THEN Count END), SUM(CASE WHEN Word='edgy' THEN Count END), SUM(CASE WHEN Word='dapper' THEN Count END) from words group by date order by date [14:58] (suggest a moving average of 15) [15:01] LjL: Interesting [15:01] Pici: a bit discomforting too [15:02] LjL: You mean the harsh decline for the past two releases? [15:02] Pici: yeah. the peak for Intrepid was lower than the peak for Warty. [15:02] i haven't included Warty in the query because it triggers a bug in the graph engine =) [15:04] unless intrepid and jaunty are more misspelled than previous releases... :P [15:06] LjL: well, we hade a jaundice once... [15:07] had* [15:07] Mamarok: i'm sure you did, but what's the frenquency of that compared to Fiesty or Gusty? :) [15:08] well, some users say Jack for Jaunty or Ibex for Intrepid [15:08] Ibex is much shorter, so... [15:08] I've seen a lot more JJ's for thise release than for others. [15:08] and the mis-spelling of Ibex is frequent [15:08] !interpid [15:08] It is spelt InTREPid [15:09] :) [15:09] !janty [15:09] Sorry, I don't know anything about janty [15:09] yeah i've tried checking Ibex instead of Intrepid, but it's relatively marginal [15:11] besides it's reflected also in the total number of lines, unique nicks, and a few other statistics one can make. it just shows most strikingly in the distribution names usage statistic [15:16] (by the way if anyone else here want to access these stats, just pm me for the url, can't make it public) [15:21] LjL: Was the bug you were referring to when the moving average color doesn't match the detail color? [15:21] Pici: yep [15:58] Going to a short meeting, hopefully things don't blow up here. [16:00] *bang* [16:13] * genii investigates the coffee urn [16:13] * jussi01 investigates the back of his eyelids... [16:14] * LjL investigates people /meing on #ubuntu-ops [16:27] * Myrtti burps [16:27] :O [16:31] too much coffee [16:42] I got a "coffee" highlight... [17:08] Lunch. Around but /away [17:09] /around [17:09] Pici: There is an /around ? [17:10] genii: /asquare [17:10] "* Error: AROUND " [17:10] Bah! [17:10] Don't take everything I say seriously :P [17:11] s/everything/anything/ [17:11] how can I delete a line in vi? [17:12] Myrtti: no one will tell you. it's your punishment for using vi to find out. [17:12] ctrl-k works in nano [17:12] LjL: i don't have any other proper editor on n800 [17:12] Myrtti: :dl [17:13] LjL: thx [17:15] bah. dajhorn suggesting setting root passwd etc etc. [17:16] " Bodsda: Set a root password, login as root, and then use `telinit` to switch to single user mode." [17:16] yeah [17:16] if you actually want to switch to single user mode, though [17:16] i'm not sure there's much of another way? [17:16] sudo telinit 1 [17:17] will that give you a root shell? [17:17] whee! [17:18] i can haz vpnc + sip nao [17:18] LjL: Experimenting right now on another box to find out this burning Q [17:19] "I looked online on how to disable xorg. Now my desktop won't open" [17:20] LjL: Damn. Locked the box up [17:21] genii: suspected you would... with the mixture of upstart and lack of a root account, this was unlikely to work [17:22] * genii grumbles a bit [17:24] Weird. Why does !php go to !lamp or so? [17:26] php is part of lamp [17:27] You need lamp to use php [17:27] You *don't* need lamp ... [17:27] If you think it should be something else, make the suggestion, then we'll shoot it down. [17:28] Hehe [17:31] OK lemme think about it first. [17:41] hello, my name is stef and i would again like to request that i be unbanned from the offtopic channel [17:41] i know exactly why swearing is wrong, and i understand 100% why its not acceptable, i didnt realise it was like that, im used to another server [17:42] @login [17:42] The operation succeeded. [17:42] i just really want to have g rated conversations about how much i love ubuntu [17:42] with other nerds.. [17:43] screamsayonara: why once you where told about your langauge in one channel did you move to another one and start using the same language [17:43] ikonia: because i was drunk and i am a punk and a linguistics student [17:43] * mneptok was about to ask the same thing [17:44] i am also an intelligent person [17:44] screamsayonara: ahhh yes, this old argument [17:44] it was an isolated thing, [17:44] * mneptok remembers when punk was cool. mneptok is in his 40s. [17:44] I remember this linguistics student agrument again [17:44] really dudes, i am a valuablew intellect [17:44] screamsayonara: from my point of view I won't remove the ban from #ubuntu as I don't believe your promises [17:44] i just like pushing the boundaries and im from austnet [17:44] irc is to me, weird [17:44] screamsayonara: you where told 4 - 5 times in each channel to mind your language and you kept going [17:44] I don't believe that there was an #ubuntu ban. [17:45] Pici: oh, did I just kick him [17:45] fair enough then [17:45] im a girl [17:45] and it hasnt happened again [17:45] sorry [17:45] i join ubuntu for support sometimes [17:45] it hasn't happened again because you've been banned from the channel [17:45] and to learn [17:45] screamsayonara: if what you say is true, then it should be very easy to express yourself without profanity. thereby adding gravitas to your words and opinions [17:45] in #ubuntu, -evudently- [17:45] evidently. [17:46] yup, you've lasted an hour without speaking at all [17:46] it's pici's ban anyway, so I'll leave alone [17:46] its autojoin, i usually on come on irc for that [17:46] Its been a month anyway. [17:46] tonight however i have a night off from writing essays [17:46] screamsayonara: why would your gender be important in this discussion? [17:46] I'm going to remove the ban, if we have an issue then it gets reapplied. [17:46] so im dealing with my personal affairs which include but are not limited to [17:46] mneptok: ikonia said 'him' [17:46] my learning ubuntu! [17:47] im studying to be a computational linguist [17:47] i need to learn ubuntu [17:47] i WANT to learn linux [17:47] We're not disputing that. [17:47] i can conmtrol my mouth if i know i need to! i didnt realise [17:47] it was such a big deal [17:47] despite multiple warnings [17:47] screamsayonara: if you want to learn Ubuntu, then Step 1 is learning the philosophy behind it. swearing and defaming and not following polite requests to stop are wholly out of line with that philosophy. [17:48] and given the time ive had to think about, and my repeated attempts to get myself [17:48] some room [17:48] ah [17:48] basically look [17:48] well, pici said he's removing the ban [17:48] it's not a problem [17:48] oh sorry i didnt see that [17:48] i hvnt fixed my text colours properly [17:48] :\ [17:49] * screamsayonara feels dumb [17:49] Like I said, if we have the same problem in the future, we'll apply the ban again. [17:49] thanks a lor [17:49] *lot [17:49] happy awesome people-ing [17:49] Its been a month anyway. [17:50] as you said, can always be re-applied [17:50] why is it always the Aussies and language? [17:50] * mneptok runs from elky [17:52] he's still not joined the channel ? [17:52] nope [17:52] * Pici shrugs [17:52] ha ha ha [18:03] PHP is an HTML-embedded scripting language. A command-line only version can be installed in Ubuntu with the php5-cli package (see [18:03] !info php5-cli for package detail ). PHP is also a component of a larger Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP combined installation (see !lamp ). [18:03] 'for' is not a valid distribution: dapper, dapper-backports, hardy, hardy-backports, intrepid, intrepid-backports, jaunty, jaunty-backports, karmic, karmic-backports, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, medibuntu, partner [18:03] Bah [18:03] heh [18:04] PHP is an HTML-embedded scripting language. A command-line only version can be installed in Ubuntu with the php5-cli package (see !info php5-cli for package detail ). PHP is also a component of a larger Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP combined installation (see !lamp ). [18:04] if we have a php-specific factoid, it should link to https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/php5.html [18:06] LjL: It assumes there also that you want to run a full-blown apache setup. Which is not always the case. [18:06] genii: no it doesn't, it mentions php5-cli [18:07] LjL: "To install PHP5 you can enter the following command in the terminal prompt: sudo apt-get install php5 libapache2-mod-php5 [18:08] genii: it might not be wording it perfectly, but it says you can install php5-cli for command-line running, and php5-cli for out-of-apache running [18:08] anyway, i was merely saying that if we are to have a dedicated PHP factoid, it would be absurd not to link to the official guide about PHP [18:09] I agree, yes [18:12] Work needs me a few minutes. I'll reword the suggestion shortly [18:15] LjL: can I had stats? [18:16] me too plz [18:18] genii: i'd make the last part shorter by saying something like "For integrating PHP in a server, see !LAMP", and possibly avoid the !info thing (or we'd do that for all packages). put the package name in "quotes" as that's what's most other factoids do. [18:26] PHP is an HTML-embedded scripting language. A command-line only version can be installed in Ubuntu with the "php5-cli" package. See also !lamp for integrated server PHP. The Ubuntu server PHP5 guide is found at https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/php5.html [18:29] LjL: ^ [18:30] yeah you don't have to say it to me, i don't have bot access :) [18:30] * genii pokes at jussi01 [18:30] genii: You have bot access, don't you? [18:31] Pici: No. We went trough this 2 other times at least [18:31] *through [18:31] Why? [18:31] by the way, there is a #kubuntu version of those stats being uploaded, same URL but with a "k" in front of "ircgraphs" [18:31] it's currently only uploaded up to 2006ish [18:31] Pici: Probably because I'd abuse it [18:31] !no PHP is PHP is an HTML-embedded scripting language. A command-line only version can be installed in Ubuntu with the "php5-cli" package. See also !lamp for integrated server PHP. The Ubuntu server PHP5 guide is found at https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/php5.html [18:31] I'll remember that Pici [18:57] Pici: another stat that shows that #ubuntu isn't really working lately [18:57] select Date, sum(case when word='please' or word='pls' or word='plz' then Count END), sum(case when word='thanks' or word='thx' or word='ty' then Count END) from Words group by date order by date [18:58] What, too many people saying thanks? [18:59] er, nevermind [18:59] Pici: too few, compared to the amount of people who say please... [19:00] consider the "pleases" as questions and the "thanks" as answered ones, and it is worrying. [19:00] of course it's a bit of a stretch to just consider them that way [19:01] Well, some people also say "please help me!" etc over and over but people generally only say "thanks" or so once [19:01] sure, it's a biased statistic in a number of way [19:01] it definitely shows "something has changed" since hardy, at the very least [19:02] and i have trouble thinking it's changed in a positive way [19:08] the count of nicks per day hasn't decreased much over the past few releases, disconting a little bit on release days though [19:09] Pici: yes, but the speaking has. i interpret it as if people are still seeking support in #ubuntu more or less as they always have, but... aren't quite finding it as they used to. [19:10] I tend to agree with that interpretation [19:10] Pici: besides, it hasn't "decreased much", but keep in mind it was a distinctly ascending trend earlier [19:10] of course you can't, uh, ascend forever, and it wouldn't even be a good thing - but. [19:11] #kubuntu statistics have finished uploading, by the way [19:12] (and i'm afraid to look at them) [19:12] My take is I think people are getting less help specifically configuring their applications, but about the same help as always installing/troubleshooting core probs [19:12] (and there was a reason why i was) [19:13] select Date, sum(lines) from messages group by date, order by date = steadily decreasing [19:13] about kubuntu? yeah [19:13] yes [19:15] Its intresting to see that as hobbsee's number of lines in the channel decreased, genii's increased. [19:15] * Myrtti doesn't want to know [19:17] LjL: Where are you getting the data for these? [19:17] Pici: irclogs. [19:17] LjL: .ubuntu.com? [19:17] yeah [19:17] okay [19:17] * jussi01 waves tiredly [19:17] there are only a few gaps, they're mostly complete [19:18] hi [19:18] hi [19:28] !away > phoenixz [19:28] cripes this connection here is annoying... [19:48] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [19:48] FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [19:52] we seriously need to redo atleast a part of the fixdccexploit wikipage [19:54] Which part? [19:55] the irssi config part and the Colloquy part [19:56] also the chatzilla part [20:03] I can do the irssi and colloquy [20:04] the long term solution they offer for irssi is very, very very unsupported by irssi community [20:14] ubottu: Admin capability add editfactoids genii [20:14] Error: I can't find editfactoids in my user database. If you didn't give a user name, then I might not know what your user is, and you'll need to identify before this command might work. [20:14] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [20:14] eek [20:15] ubottu: Admin capability add genii editfactoids [20:15] The operation succeeded. [20:15]