[00:00] famax8: you want wifi help well there you go, those pages are usaully a start [00:00] ubottu: nope nothing on any forums did work sorry [00:00] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [00:00] Is just that i download lots of sh... my computer has caught several virus, [00:00] when i upgrade to more RAM is it necessary to resize my swap partition? [00:00] Whats the command to stop X again and go to terminal?i'm going to try reinstalling my graphics driers [00:00] Link23: excellent. Then "strace -f /usr/bin/firefox 2>/tmp/stracelog" should work. I might've missed the /usr/bin/ bit previously. [00:00] gymophett, http://paste.ubuntu.com/176764/ [00:00] i heard ubuntu is way better than xp [00:00] !who | i2go [00:00] i2go: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :) [00:00] Hi [00:00] !tab | i2go [00:00] i2go: You can use for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line. [00:00] ryan: No your swap is fine [00:00] sebsebseb: oh dear jah no thanks i did about 60h of online reading tried i think about 25 000 different things but nothing [00:00] ryan_: no, imho. Unless you suspend and run out of swap doing so. [00:00] Anyone able to offer some advice on fixing hard drive errors? The Jaunty installer couldn't create the right partitions to do its job.... [00:00] Seriously,How do i drop X [00:01] ryan_: (how much ram and how much swap?) [00:01] ... :? [00:01] how I know which connection is now connected? [00:01] mzz: output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/176765/ [00:01] Anyone here use LXDE? [00:01] Mack: in mutt: Received: from Mack-Server (ool-43574d03.dyn.optonline.net [67.87.77.3]) [00:01] right now i have 1GB ram and 2GB swap, im upgrading to 2GB ram [00:01] ugh [00:01] damn [00:01] Mack: checking gmail's webmail [00:01] livingdaylight: is sshd running on the other end? [00:01] raylu: see what gmail says [00:01] cuz for me it didn't [00:01] hi, i use radeon xpress 200M on laptop, i can't get 3D to work, neither with Envy, neither with ati drivers from the site, HELP PLS [00:01] but idk about u [00:01] Alinn: Look in your Network Manger applet (on the tray). It should display either wired connection, wireless connection, or none. [00:01] mzz: on the Desktop? I don't know [00:01] i dont wanna send it to someone, and them find out [00:01] ryan: you should be fine without resizeing your swap [00:01] livingdaylight: please check :) [00:01] i2go: yes there aren't really any viruses for Linux at this time, and to get malicious programs installed you would have to install yourself, or have your computer broken into and have them do it [00:02] Mack: wow, you're right. i can't show more headers [00:02] i2go: ,but whatever OS your on you should have a firewall [00:02] mzz: have i installed it on the Desktop? [00:02] i2go: for example one enabled in your router [00:02] lukavia: what version of ubuntu are you using? [00:02] Mack: in y! webmail, i could [00:02] raylu: u no if thunderbird shows full headers? [00:02] Mack: i assume it doesn't. haven't used it in a while [00:02] sebsebseb: does ubuntu has plugNplay? [00:02] gymophett: 9.04 [00:02] livingdaylight: apparently you have it installed on one of them (the one you can connect to). [00:02] raylu: luckily, my friend has gmail not yahoo :P [00:02] i2go: and a good idea to have a good password that isn't say abc123 [00:02] mobi-sheep: I using text base for connect:-[ [00:02] livingdaylight: there's a services management thing under system -> administration, iirc. [00:02] and he thinks i seriously got the pw for admin@gmail.com :D [00:03] i2go: most hardware works rather well with Ubuntu, but not everything, because of stupid hardware manufactures and lack of Linux support [00:03] Mack: ah, next to reply in the top left [00:03] Mack: there's an arrow. click, show original [00:03] hmm [00:03] Mack: http://www.haltabuse.org/help/headers/gmail.shtml [00:03] mzz: I copied it as strace -f /usr/bin/firefox 2>/tmp/stracelog and firefox only appeared. [00:03] sebsebseb: i have a wireless router and card as well im kinda worry about that [00:03] Mack: but most people, myself included, wouldn't bother checking [00:03] lukavia: the new version of Xorg in 9.04 doesn't support the ATI drivers yet, (but will soon), I have an ATI too, and I had to downgrade to 8.04.2 LTS, it's more stable anyway. I have everything working fine now. [00:03] mzz: did i have to apt-get install ssh on both machines? [00:03] i2go: is it atheros? [00:03] any one know how to disable the login theme so it can be only "terminal style login" or watever is called (: [00:04] so that's it... nobody... :( [00:04] i2go: if a driver is available (this is the case for a lot but not all hardware) it will often get autodetected at least as well as under windows, in my experience. It's just hardware for which a driver is not (yet) available that is problematic. [00:04] ok, now im just going by the chance hes one of those lazy ppl [00:04] i2go: you can try your hardware on the Live CD before installing from that CD as well [00:04] livingdaylight: I don't recall if that's there by default. [00:04] or thunderbird doesn't show it [00:04] gymophett: how soon ? [00:04] Link23: I am confused. Do you mean it works now? === SP3C is now known as SP3C7R3 [00:04] i2go: if it works on the live session no problem, then you should be fine, if not, you will have to probably set it up [00:04] lukavia: that is the question. :( [00:04] mzz: no it came up for a second. [00:04] hi everybody! === cesar_ is now known as Guest97274 [00:04] raylu: but luckily for me, most references are to google [00:04] I need to install Linux on a SUN T2000 server, can I use Ubuntu Server 8.04 64bits for that purpose? [00:04] as i have the mx records transfered to google if u do a reverse check :P [00:05] Link23: ok. Can you "pastebinit /tmp/stracelog" (again you may have to "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" first)? [00:05] Anybody here with experience with installing ubuntu in SPARC / SUN architectures? [00:05] lukavia: thats just what I heard.. But I'm sure it will support it. [00:05] phoenixz: Ubuntu on Sun hardware, wow I expect hardly anyone does that, if anyone has even done it [00:05] mzz: lol, now i get to feel stupid... [00:05] sebsebseb: i have netgear router and linksys card [00:05] phoenixz: people would normalley do Solaris I expect [00:05] hey how i can add to my xchat the gnome server? [00:05] hi [00:05] oh wait [00:05] Guest97274: iirc, ctrl+s [00:05] i transfered back to me === Guest97274 is now known as Xiumeteo [00:05] i2go: I think it will work well, as I said you try on Live CD, once you got one and booted the computer from it [00:05] I can't boot [00:05] gymophett: i heard that we will have to wait the new kernel 2.6.30 [00:05] there is a grub error [00:05] mzz: i hadn't and needed to, install ssh on the Desktop. So, no wonder [00:05] * livingdaylight blushes [00:06] how can I change the grub boot file? [00:06] yeonhoo: dual boot? [00:06] livingdaylight: don't worry about it. I didn't recognize your original error message as being equivalent to "connection refused" (I'm a commandline kind of person myself, if the gui tools give different messages I'm easily confused) [00:06] sebsebseb: how do you guys download songs or movies? what do you guys use? [00:06] mzz: AND now laptops finally sees Desktop. Sorry, for all the troubleshooting, but thank you [00:06] yeonhoo: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.list [00:06] mzz: ic [00:06] famax8: i lost entire boot,, im on liveCD now [00:07] !piracy | i2go [00:07] i2go: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o [00:07] gymophett: with this kernel ati cards will be supported, but i am not sure where i heard it from, maybe just rumours [00:07] mzz: what is the command to list fonts? it's similar to xfontsel, but not graphical [00:07] hum [00:07] livingdaylight: I'm trying to break the habit of falling back to commandline tools when helping others but occasionally hit snags like this one [00:07] yeonhoo: is the cd starting at all? [00:07] raylu: fc-list? [00:07] mzz: permission denied doesn't sound like connection refused. That is what sent us on the redherring [00:07] livingdaylight: exactly [00:07] sebsebseb: Linux can run on solaris and I know ubuntu should work but.. before I start I'd like to get a bit of info :) I already talked a bit here with ppll before who did that [00:07] famax8: yes im booting from cd [00:08] mzz: thank you again... byes [00:08] Nobody here atm who knows about ubuntu on SPAR? [00:08] SPARC [00:08] mzz: not quite. it output them in.. X format. similar to -*-terminus-medium-*-*-*-14-*-*-*-*-*-*-* [00:08] -*-terminus-medium-*-*-*-14-*-*-*-*-*-*-* [00:08] phoenixz: I didn't say it coudn't be done, I just said not many people will do it [00:08] er, whoops. [00:08] raylu: xlsfont (or xlsfonts, I forgot)? [00:08] yeonhoo: for start do a check cd for errors [00:08] gymophett: thanks for the moral support :) [00:08] mzz: that's it, thanks :D [00:08] famax8: but i can't access my hd to modify the grup option.. [00:08] famax8: there is no error with cd [00:08] raylu: but if you're going for a ttf font you probably want to use xft [00:08] no [00:08] famax8: I already installed with it [00:08] reinstalling graphics card fixed it.although even though the resolution is max 1600x1200 I belive it looks way to close up [00:09] like the programs have no space [00:09] mzz: xft = ? [00:09] raylu: u think it'll change anything if my MX records are to google? [00:09] raylu: see the examples in "man urxvt" (search for "xft" in there) [00:09] Hey, I'm new to Ubuntu and I was wondering if anyone knew any slim dvd burners or readers that work with it? [00:09] yeonhoo: oh so is installed... so then live cd boot with command prompt on it and enter what sebsebseb told you [00:09] sebsebseb: true :) Its not really my choice but problem is that its my only option.. [00:09] Mack: no. i doubt he'll check [00:09] i set up connection sharing via networkmanager; the clients have internet access but dns queries are refused. how do i configure networkmanager to enable dns on the dnsmasq instance it launches? [00:09] yeah [00:09] raylu: I'm pretty sure that if you want antialiasing (you usually do when using ttf fonts) you'll have to use xft, not classic x fonts [00:09] but i wannna make this real [00:10] Mack: that's... impossible. obviously. [00:10] ok, as real as possible [00:10] TunisUnit: slim ones light waight? Ubuntu comes with Brasero and K3B is nice as well [00:10] !dvd | TunisUnit [00:10] TunisUnit: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats [00:10] mzz: I just get pastebin.com when I do that. I can't even get to sites other than google in epiphany web browser. If I go to another site It crashes. Why don't I private message you it? [00:10] Mack: i don't think this is worth your time :P [00:10] !k3b | TunisUnit [00:10] TunisUnit: k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto [00:10] !brasero | TunisUnit [00:10] nope, it isn't [00:10] Sorry, I don't know anything about brasero [00:10] I mean a drive [00:11] Link23: that would take forever. pastebinit should have given you a link to pastebin. What was the link? [00:11] TunisUnit: Ubuntu should just detect those normalley [00:11] raylu: which is EXACTLY y im doing it :P [00:11] All the ones I found don't mention any Linux drivers [00:11] And I want to make sure before i pull the trigger [00:11] mzz: pastebin.com was all it gave [00:11] TunisUnit: most hardware with the exceptions of certain wireless for example, will just work with Ubuntu [00:11] oh and how to get directx work on wine? [00:11] anyone? [00:11] Link23: is /tmp/stracelog not empty (just open it in gedit or something) and did you run "pastebinit /tmp/stracelog"? [00:11] famax8: that's a good question [00:11] !codecs [00:11] For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats [00:11] @sebsebseb: OK thans [00:12] Alright cool ubottu [00:12] Thanks you guys [00:12] !codecs | ni_ [00:12] ni_: please see above [00:12] famax8: some Directx games will work in Wine no problem, others need configuring etc, find out more about wine in #winehq [00:12] sebsebseb: is for vdj and pals... [00:12] lol raylu theres 2 references to me [00:12] mzz: I opened it and it's not empty and I ran it twice. [00:12] the rest are to google [00:12] !codecs [00:12] For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats [00:12] even mailing mx is google's [00:13] famax8: what is? [00:13] can someone tell me if I'm going crazy and "pastebinit /path/to/textfile" doesn't actually work? [00:13] Link23: oh wait, I bet the file's too large. Try "tail -n1000 /tmp/stracelog|pastebinit"? [00:13] mzz: heh heh yeah I tried that app before with not much luck, I guess like you, I just did something wrong [00:13] nups [00:13] sebsebseb: music programs but i am thinkin about switch already for either the 9.10 or studio versions will it help? [00:14] famax8: the stuff in studio you can install into standard Ubuntu [00:14] mzz: www.pastebin.com/f102d050b [00:14] sebsebseb: really? i can transform my ubuntu 8.04 in the studio version??? how?? [00:14] famax8: and 9.10 is on alpha1, and so rather buggy, and very much so in development [00:14] * mzz frows [00:15] Link23: " * Unknown post id, it may have expired or been deleted". Did you mispaste the link? [00:15] hey, so I've got a server running 7.10 on it... and apt-get isn't working... looks like 7.10 isn't supported any more, but I need to find an updated sources.list so I can upgrade... any idea what I should do? [00:15] famax8: you just install the stuff from studio into it that you want [00:15] sebsebseb: yeah my wifi works better but some things were dodgy so far [00:15] famax8: in 8.04 you mean? [00:15] mzz: http://pastebin.com/f102d050b try that. It may have been the www [00:15] sebsebseb: yeah but how? [00:15] famax8: search in syntic for stuff [00:15] sebsebseb: no in 9.10 [00:15] Link23: works! Hmm, "killed by SIGILL" is bad. [00:16] Link23: what kind of cpu is this? [00:16] famax8: your using 9.10? [00:16] Link23: (try "pastebinit /proc/cpuinfo") [00:16] on the other laptop yes [00:16] !7.10 | NeRMe [00:16] NeRMe: Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) was the seventh release of Ubuntu. End Of Life: April 18th, 2009. See !eol and !upgrade for more details. [00:16] sebsebseb: yes on the other laptop [00:16] !eol [00:16] End-Of-Life is the time when security updates for an Ubuntu release stop. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases [00:16] what's a good application to test if my webcam is working? [00:16] !9.10 | famax8 [00:16] famax8: Karmic Koala is the codename for Ubuntu 9.10, due October 2009 - Karmic WILL break - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1 [00:16] !cheese| P4R41 [00:16] !upgrade [00:16] For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading [00:16] mzz: http://pastebin.com/f742ef73e [00:16] Sorry, I don't know anything about cheese [00:17] drat [00:17] sebsebseb: why? [00:17] P4R41: I forgot the factoid, but try "cheese" [00:17] famax8: I get the impression your an Ubuntu newbie? [00:17] Can I do my pc to suspend after x mins, like i do a shutdown with: shutdown -h x ? [00:17] famax8: if so you really shoudn't be using 9.10 yet [00:17] not much i'd say [00:17] yeah, but with a broken sources.list, how do I upgrade? [00:17] famax8: and this channel is not for 9.10 support, untill 9.10 final comes out [00:17] Link23: mmm, no sse support. You're positive this started happening immediately after a hard system crash, not after an upgrade? [00:17] mzz: ill check it out, last time it didn't work [00:18] sebsebseb: on the OTHER laptop here now is a 8.04 [00:18] NeRMe: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/ [00:18] famax8: lol hummm this is a bit silly [00:18] famax8: one computer you have 8.04 and the other you have 9.10 alpha1 bugy bugs development version [00:18] famax8: especially pretty shortly after a release I wouldn't immediately try the next version. I'd expect 9.10 to stabilise as we get nearer to its release. [00:18] famax8: what happended to 8.10 and 9.04? [00:19] sebsebseb: and all the issues are from 8.04 9.10 is just in test on the other pc since yesterday [00:19] famax8: I'd use either 8.04 (lts) or 9.04 (current release) right now [00:19] sebsebseb: well i was in prison... [00:19] famax8: well upgrade to 8.10 that may work better? oh and then maybe upgrade also to 9.04? [00:19] famax8: to be honest 9.04 is a bit of a pathetic release, but 8.10 :) [00:19] famax8: oh, definitely listen to sebsebseb if he recommends also trying 8.10 [00:19] so cheese doesn't detect the camera [00:19] even tho its plugged in [00:20] sebsebseb: yeah you're not the first saying that but never did an ug to be honest i mean without uninstall and all [00:20] mzz: http://i41.tinypic.com/k3or5i.jpg [00:20] i have method=shared for a NetworkManager connection, but all clients are getting Query Refused response for DNS lookups, anyone know what to do? [00:20] mzz: Yep, one minute I was changing my screensaver, just scrolling through some. But when I previewed molecule it froze and I hit my restart button. When I tried to change it again it went by default again to molecule then freeze. Then I held up when I went into the screensavers. Then firefox stopped working when I started it. [00:20] famax8: ok well upgrades go quite well [00:20] sebsebseb: and synaptic doesnt find studio [00:20] mzz: i _think_ non-bold fonts are inconsolata at the moment [00:20] !theora [00:20] Sorry, I don't know anything about theora [00:20] !ogg [00:20] For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats [00:20] #ubuntu-de [00:21] !find ubuntu-studio [00:21] Package/file ubuntu-studio does not exist in jaunty [00:21] raylu: if you're editing .Xresources you probably have to run "xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources" after changing it. Check if your changes show upn in "xrdb -query" [00:21] !info studio [00:21] Package studio does not exist in jaunty [00:21] famax8: ok well you can get the packages for it anyway [00:21] mzz: two advices are better than one i learnes it with linux :) [00:21] sebsebseb: for the ug? [00:22] !studio [00:22] UbuntuStudio is a collection of packages for the artist who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation. It contains all the best Audio/Visual components from the Ubuntu repositories. For more info and install instructions, join #ubuntustudio or see http://ubuntustudio.org [00:22] sebsebseb: through synaptic i guess shall i search for 8.10 [00:22] mzz: ahh, thanks :D [00:22] Link23: hmm, ok. Let's try to find out what function it crashes in. Does "firefox -g" give you a (gdb) prompt or an error message or something else? [00:22] famax8: see the bot says the programs are in the repo [00:22] famax8: and no you don't upgrade via synaptic [00:23] Link23: (I figured this'd be some relatively simple profile corruption, but it looks like something weird is going on :( ) [00:23] !upgrade | famax8 [00:23] famax8: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading [00:23] sebsebseb, is there an autosuspend function, like there is a shutdown -h for the shutdown? [00:23] archman: try gshutdown [00:23] it says (gdb) [00:23] sebsebseb: i think i'll go for my olskool reinstall not really keen to use this thing [00:24] mzz: it says (gdb) [00:24] I think i need some help setting up my webcam, ugh [00:24] sebsebseb tnx! :) [00:24] famax8: you don't need to re install now [00:24] Link23: excellent. Say "c" (without the quotes, and hit enter). It should crash (again). Then say "bt" and pastebin the output. [00:24] help needed: what packages provide ogv codecs? [00:24] famax8: just upgrade, and maybe re install later on say 10.04 when I am also assuming Ext4 is more stable :) [00:24] I have two problems... one... I want to convert a few wavs to speex format.. and the other, more serious one is X will freeze, ussually when im working in firefox/galeon with a lot of photos on a page.. [00:24] famax8: instead of converting Ext3 to Ext4, I am talking just under a year from now here [00:24] sebsebseb: now now no.. but i need to find the answer for my wifi if i wanna dl the cd [00:24] famax8: your on 8.04 the current long term support relase, but 10.04 is the next one [00:25] famax8: if you use non LTS releases you would have to upgrade through each release. you can upgrade a LTS though directly to another one [00:25] mzz: It says that the program is not being run and then no stack. [00:25] Link23: did "c" work? [00:25] famax8: wifi does not work in 8.04? [00:25] sebsebseb: so 1st to lts and then 8.10 [00:26] !lts [00:26] LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server. [00:26] Link23: (you'd get that message if you tried "bt" before "c". If you did "c" I'm confused so please pastebin the output) [00:26] famax8: no 8.04 is the LTS [00:26] sebsebseb: very slow and cut now and then sometimes doesnt find the network [00:26] famax8: maybe 9.04 is the one you need, I read it has better atheros wireless support [00:26] sebsebseb, it's not for suspending... [00:26] famax8: however 8.10 may also be good enough [00:26] mzz: I typed c first and that's what I got. [00:26] archman: ok don't know then [00:26] is there how to change the folder the "make install" installs the file, i want to install it on my home folder [00:27] Link23: then can you pastebin the gdb output you got so far? I seem to be missing something again. [00:27] sebsebseb, cool ;) [00:27] I'm trying to watch video's, and they keep freezing after about 10-15 minutes no matter which player I try. Any ideas what the problem could be? [00:27] dansku2: that depends heavily on the package, but you may have some luck with passing --prefix=$HOME (or $HOME/somedir) to configure [00:27] famax8: and you can't directly upgrade 8.04 to 9.04 you have to go through 8.10 [00:27] dansku2: you give the proper options to ./configure normally.. (and no i dont rember them) [00:27] sebsebseb: i think is not an atheros chipset [00:27] dansku2: definitely do not run "make install" as root if you're doing this. [00:27] Does anybody knows how to disable the autocomplete for URLs on Epiphany browser? [00:28] sebsebseb: no peak protocole - is a nvidia b43 sth [00:28] who was it that was talking about gnome and how they had it configured earlier??? [00:28] mzz i cant, that why i want to install on other folder =) [00:28] the one who showed me a screen capture of their setup === Demonicdata is now known as SetiAmon [00:28] mzz: ahhh... xrdb -merge... merges. it doesn't remove things if i've removed them from .Xresources. heh [00:28] famax8: luckily I am hardwired so don't have to deal with stupid wireless issues anymore, yeah that was so 2004 for me [00:29] mzz: http://pastebin.com/f14421f8a [00:29] raylu: oh, forgot to warn you about that one. I usually work around that by setting them to the default explicitly, then merging, then removing the line. [00:29] famax8: with Fedora Core 2 and 4 [00:29] mzz: oh. i just did xrdb -remove [00:29] Link23: try "r" instead of "c" [00:29] thiebaude: you know wireless issues? [00:29] sebsebseb, what problems are you having? [00:30] sebsebseb: i dont get it... 2004 but know that i cant be wired i cant pull a cable that long in the middle of the house i live with a blond [00:30] How i know which connection is now connected (text base connections)? [00:30] I have two problems... one... I want to convert a few wavs to speex format.. and the other, more serious one is X will freeze, ussually when im working in firefox/galeon with a lot of photos on a page.. [00:30] sebsebseb: i sure dont, i use a wired broadband connection [00:30] raylu: that works, but isn't what you want if you have more than just ~/.Xdefaults as source of resources. Some stuff like gnome-settings-daemon likes to add resources too, and I'm not sure how to get them to re-add after xrdb -remove. [00:30] chiques: not me famax8 [00:30] thiebaude: same here :) [00:30] famax8, What problem are you having? [00:30] hi [00:30] sebsebseb: you think fedora is better? i tried core 2 nothing much better wifi wise [00:30] Alinn: what kind of "connection"? Perhaps you're looking for ifconfig? [00:30] can someone help me set up my webcam with gc-usb? [00:30] mzz: oh. poop. [00:30] famax8: 2004 is when I had a stupid wireless device thingey that woudn't work in Fedora Core 2 and 4 [00:31] can anybody help me make my Xsane (Lenny) find my printer [00:31] raylu: they're probably not all that important though. [00:31] famax8: if any other distro is better for your wireless well possibily Mandriva [00:31] raylu: just log out and back in if odd stuff happens. [00:31] mzz: so far it's working. It asks if I want to continue or quit and I don't want to do anything wrong. [00:31] Link23: I don't follow. [00:31] sebsebseb: ah so welcome to the club lol [00:31] famax8: not quite [00:31] ok guys need a lil help, i installed ubuntu, then booted vista and used easybcd to edit boot entry, now ubuntu wont boot [00:31] Link23: (keep pastebinning, I'm much better at following actual gdb sessions :) [00:31] question about apt-get. I've run the 'update' command. 'sudo apt-get install tcl8.5' still results in 'E: Couldn't find package tcl8.5' [00:32] famax8: I was hardwired in 2005 :) so sweet being able to use second release of Ubuntu on a working Internet connection [00:32] chiques: my wifi states 1mbs only and cut sometimes also it doesnt see network sometimes [00:32] famax8: ,but it really did suck having to use XP for net when I had Fedora Core installed. anyway off topic, and these other people can probably help you [00:32] mzz: http://pastebin.com/f450e0b36 [00:32] sebsebseb: i mean fedora crappy issues club... [00:32] can somebody provide help with backups or sync of data files with an NAS? [00:32] famax8, Do you have other computers that can connect at faster speeds? [00:32] famax8: the only wireless I have is in a *very* ancient laptop not running ubuntu (I don't fully trust its hardware either) [00:32] How can I disable autocompletion for URLs on Epiphany browser? its anoying me... [00:32] Cylence: run apt-cache search tcl and see if it comes up on a different name [00:33] famax8: no wireless problems club, because of stupid hardware manufactures that do not support Linux properly or at all [00:33] famax8: or the to newbie to configure a wireless at the time or get it working with ndiswrapper club [00:33] Link23: ok, so you are crashing inside xulrunner. Did you reinstall that package too when reinstalling earlier? [00:33] famax8: that was me in 2004 with Fedora Core 2 and 4 [00:33] mzz: I don't believe so. [00:34] sebsebseb: therefore that's why we got a club lol * mzz: yeah but on the old one is fine [00:34] Link23: can you give that a shot, just in case? [00:34] P4R41: it did find a few things, but not the actual tcl [00:34] can anybody help me restore ubuntu after editing with easybcd [00:34] sebsebseb: went through that... the ndiswrapper club lol [00:34] P4R41: few things about ruby, and one about postgresql [00:34] I'm trying to connect to a machine via ftp using nautilus, I can't figure out how I'm supposed to set that up. Properties of the "FTP server on machine-name" don't indicate anywhere I can enter a username and password. [00:34] famax8: ndiswarpper should be a last resort, native first :) [00:34] yeah, I'm glad this card I have has a realtek chipset I don't need to run ndiswrapper for [00:35] Yankefish: tell the channel some more info.. like.. #1 'how' did you install , (wubi or a normal install) and #2 - why did you mess with easybcd? [00:35] I've even tried opening it in gvim, not a single thing was present. [00:35] P4R41: I got a huge anount of errors about unreachable servers upon attempting to update [00:35] chiques: yes was [00:35] still, I'm not sure if the driver's stable (something's definitely causing oopses, I'm just not 100% sure what it is) [00:35] Cylence: you need to check your repositories [00:35] sebsebseb: for now i do with an underground way and screw ndiswrapper [00:35] how can i tell if i am running compiz fusion?it is required for animated wallpapper right? [00:35] thecougar: it's definitely not for everyone, youger people tend to adjust better than older; it also has a lot to do with drive and patience ;) [00:35] P4R41: /etc/apt/sources.list ? [00:36] P4R41: I'm honestly not sure what I'm looking for, heh. would you mind having a look at it? [00:36] how do i check in terminal if a particular package is installed? [00:36] Cylence: you're doing this all command line with no gui? [00:36] famax8: underground way? [00:36] famax8, Have you tried removing rebooting the reinstalling fwcutter? [00:36] P4R41: right [00:36] i installed with wubi 9.04, then i booted vista and used easybc to edit bootloader name, there was a drop box with c,e,f, and boot under it i selected boot now ubuntu dont load anymore goes to a dos like screen and says wubi [00:36] Cylence: ok, let me see if i can help you [00:36] P4R41: sincere thanks [00:36] chiques: fwcutter is gone if i remember [00:36] Yankefish: Wubi NO! [00:36] P4R41: let me give you an output of the sources.list file. one moment [00:36] Hello. Just installed an AMD HD4850 with the latest ATI driver, and am getting performance that on low settings is about as bad as my Geforce 6150 integrated. GLXgears is low at just 7,500. I'm not sure where to beging- you'll need to keep in mind I'm running Ubuntu Server, so no Restricted Drive Manager [00:36] Yankefish: Wubi not recommend by many people that know Ubuntu resonably well [00:37] Cylence: i get help here too, just paying it forward [00:37] huh? THat's _low_?? [00:37] sebsebseb: you need to create a trigger [00:37] What does # lshw -C network print out? [00:37] Performance was equally awful when using Ubuntu's stock FGLRX package [00:37] LadyNikon: ha ha [00:37] sebsebseb: :p [00:37] famax8, What does # lshw -C network print out? [00:37] sebsebseb: yeah i use some pkg from a univ and desactivated the cutter, installed thw driver from manufacturer and is now almost ok [00:37] P4R41: well, good on ya then ;) https://gist.github.com/98e4525889ce17158b3d [00:37] im a noobie with ubuntu [00:37] does anyone know how to start the emerald themes from a nonstandard window manager (ratpoison)? the usual emerald --replace doesn't work [00:37] LadyNikon: true though some of the stuff I have put here, I am not sure how many times I have said it [00:38] Yankefish: they have a point in that wubi is actually more complicated than a regular setup with the current state of partition resize tools. [00:38] panaggio, :) [00:38] @HD4850 question- might there be an Xorg.conf setting I need to tweak? [00:38] hmm [00:38] How can I disable autocompletion for URLs on Epiphany browser? its anoying me... [00:38] Yankefish: also, you need to find someone who actually understands wubi to repair the kind of problem you're facing [00:38] say Ursinha [00:38] P4R41: oh, I added that 'pool' on the first line, btw. in a desperate attempt === customer is now known as linuxman410 [00:38] chiques: a bunch of things alrite [00:39] the install went fine just when i used easybcd thats when hell broke loose [00:39] proq: kill ratpoison by hand [00:39] guess you're not the panaggio I was thinking, sorry [00:39] ejv: agreed. i have no drive for command line and thats my issue. i've always seen command line as a backwards feature [00:39] Yankefish: I don't fix weird wubi issues, because well weird wubi issues really are weird, and the standard stuff that applys to normal partitions, do not apply, for example being able to access the partition on a Live CD [00:39] proq: ratpoison is annoying and doesn't take the wm selection, it can't be --replaced properly (it's not emeralds fault, even though I really want to blame emerald instead of ratpoison :) [00:39] Ursinha: yes, I'm the panaggio you're thinking =) [00:39] :) [00:39] ohh ok so how can i fix anybody [00:40] Yankefish: so in reply to your PM, I am not going to help you with fixing Wubi issues, I would just advice into not using Wubi :) and doing partitions for real [00:40] anybody know a prog to log the stuff that top displays? [00:40] sebsebseb: no? Surely the livecd can mount the ntfs partition and then loopback mount the wubi partition? Although that doesn't help with the bootloader, since I have no clue how that setup boots in any detail... [00:40] famax8, Post it on paste.ubuntu.com [00:40] mzz: it hacks the Windows bootloader so it can boot up Grub [00:41] thecougar: yea I think it's just perception of productivity, the command line is linux's greatest asset; every operating system has a learning curve, again not for everybody. I am sorry you couldn't get xorg to display the resolutions you need. [00:41] sebsebseb: ahh, windows bootloader chainloading grub instead of vice versa? cute. [00:41] mzz: basicalley yeah [00:41] nope im asking for wubi help [00:41] sebsebseb: wonder where they stash grub without putting it in a partition though. Must be some awkward windows-bootloader-specific hack? [00:42] s/in a partition/in a bootsector/ [00:42] Oh, oh, that's you. Sorry [00:42] mzz: well it goes in it's place in the MBR [00:42] Yankefish: i use to use wubi, whats wrong? [00:42] np [00:42] chiques: done [00:42] anybody good with php ? ffmpeg my script not converting and grabing image yet its connected to mysql and inserts data ! someone help mee im dying with this [00:42] famax8, URL? [00:42] Yankefish: there is a way to access the wubi file, and it's files, but I don't have that link on me hummm [00:42] yo yo yo [00:42] yo [00:42] yo [00:42] Yankefish: if you messed up the bootloaders so you can't boot up Ubuntu/Wubi [00:43] yeah thats what happened [00:43] can someone help me intsall my T43 drivers? I'd appreciate any help! [00:43] Is anyone open to troubleshooting poor 3D acceleration with me? I know, I know, cursed binary blob... [00:43] Yankefish: maybe I am going to help after all a bit, but only if can find that link [00:43] Yankefish: if you can boot off a regular livecd we can probably get at the wubi partition, but you'll have to find someone actually familiar with wubi to repair the bootloader. [00:43] Yankefish: you got data on there, that you want to get hold of? [00:43] Need Help: Toshiba A300 laptop will not connect to a wired network, Wireless works though. DM any ideas [00:43] ohh ok thx [00:43] chiques; sorry newbie in irc chat : here http://paste.ubuntu.com/176789/ [00:43] need help with ubuntu 9.04 and aplle kbd ..... [00:43] Yankefish: so if you want data off we can try to help, but if you want it to boot again we probably can't [00:43] nah no data just did a fresh install [00:44] i just want to install it again no data [00:44] mzz: there is a way to get hold of the data [00:44] hi, im new to C++ and im using anjuta, im writing a simple program, but i dont know how to execute it. i already compile it, no errors but i dont know waht next [00:44] Hello, I need some assistance on a pretty strange problem. Botting into ubuntu, I discovered that all my firefox bookmarks were gone and a restore did nothing to fix that. Buttons on the internet don't work, my google toolbar doesn't work, etc. So I went to check out what could be wrong. Went to my home folder, wh‎ich said I have ZERO bytes free. I had plenty of free space before this paticular boot. Even deleting files from my home fol [00:44] der did nothing. [00:44] Yankefish: well in that case remove wubi :) [00:44] Yankefish: and do partitions for real :) [00:44] sebsebseb: yeah, that's really the easy part. The tricky part is getting it to run a kernel and a (probably humongous) initramfs [00:44] how do i just boot the ubuntu cd and reinstall [00:44] I would make a post on the forums but the login button is broken. [00:44] mzz: thanks for the help with urxvt. i'll be stick with gnome-terminal, though, because redrawing is a bit slow in rxvt [00:44] mzz: it doesn't deal with with being resized either [00:44] mzz: someone did what I was just talking about and gave a link [00:45] raylu: it doesn't? how so? [00:45] Yankefish: dual boot [00:45] mzz: he was here in the channel a week or two ago or something [00:45] mzz: it works! Thanks a million. Where can I learn all these things? [00:45] Yankefish: When your computer is booting go into BIOS and choose to boot from the disc rather than your HD. [00:45] Link23: wait, what? The xulrunner reinstall fixed it? [00:45] Yankefish: remove Wubi :) [00:45] Link23: might want to fsck your / partition if you haven't already then. Creepy. [00:45] ok Fohn then what can i just reinstall on same partations [00:45] Yea, It's working like a charm. [00:45] Yankefish: you can do a proper dual boot set up, it's not that difficult [00:46] yep its real easy [00:46] Lazy me. I think I'll pour over the Arch and Gentoo wikis for tips on 3D accell issues before pestering you folks. I'm sure that'll please you greatly [00:46] mzz: http://i43.tinypic.com/idex7a.jpg [00:46] Yankefish: maybe even get rid of Windows, or run in a virtual machine, depending on what you would be using Windows for or woudn't be using it for [00:46] sebsebseb: i dual boot xp and 9.10 [00:46] mzz: right center, bottom left [00:46] chiques: got it? [00:46] (Anyone?) Need Help: Toshiba A300 laptop will not connect to a wired network, Wireless works though. DM any ideas [00:46] Link23: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash helps a bit with this kind of thing, although come to think of it I don't think I used any of that. For the rest there's really no single place where I picked up all the odds and ends used when debugging [00:46] Yankefish: If you're talking about wiping over your current install, yes you could do so from the partition manager which is a step during the install process. [00:47] I would make a post on the forums but the login button is broken. [00:47] ok fohn that what i'll do [00:47] Yankefish: if you can access Windows, or sort it out so you can, you can remove wubi like that [00:47] Hello, I need some assistance on a pretty strange problem. Botting into ubuntu, I discovered that all my firefox bookmarks were gone and a restore did nothing to fix that. Buttons on the internet don't work, my google toolbar doesn't work, etc. So I went to check out what could be wrong. Went to my home folder, wh‎ich said I have ZERO bytes free. I had plenty of free space before this paticular boot. Even deleting files from my home fol [00:47] der did nothing. [00:47] raylu: huh. I don't think I've seen that, but I don't use fake transparency. [00:47] mzz: Ok, I'm new so what do I have to do with the / partition? [00:47] can someone help me intsall my T43 drivers? I'd appreciate any help! [00:47] Yankefish: DON'T use Wubi, use real partitions instead :) [00:47] can someone remind me how to force a fsck of / on reboot in ubuntu? :) [00:47] mzz: ah, it could be an issue with that [00:47] has any one a mac pro with ubuntu on it for me work perfect perfect except the f... kbd need help ! [00:47] Yankefish: i second that [00:47] how do i join irc.spotchat.org #linuxmint [00:48] thx guys l8r [00:48] mib_xhcj46 /server servername [00:48] is it wubi so popular now? i find it dodgy... [00:48] mib_xhcj46: then join the channel [00:48] i selected the server option and typed that then it says spotchat (dead) [00:48] famax8: i think its horrific [00:48] famax8: i didn't like it [00:48] mzz: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-force-fsck-on-the-next-reboot-or-boot-sequence/ [00:48] famax8: Wubi can be dodgy yeah, but yet loads of the newbies do it for their first installs [00:49] Link23: what raylu just said. Fohn: you may want to give that a shot too [00:49] well i did that and nothing happens when i do /join #linuxmint [00:49] mzz: pppo."ifconfig" doesn't give me name of this connection.:-[ [00:49] ah alrite the easy way... i started with a puppy and a slax... a bit masochiste i think... [00:49] Alinn1: what kind of name are you looking for? [00:49] famax8: started with mandrake [00:49] Fohn: df -hx tmpfs [00:49] mzz: ? [00:49] famax8: wubi sounds easy, but the resulting boot loader setup is nonstandard enough that someone not familiar with wubi can't help you repair it if it breaks. [00:50] will give it a look mzz, thanks. [00:50] come on even for a newbie it would tach nothing... [00:50] famax8: with partition resize utils available on the install cd and working pretty well wubi is arguably unnecessary. [00:50] ActionParsnip: I started with Fedora Core 2 :) [00:50] Alinn1: you're looking for a "name" for the connection. What kind of name are you looking for? eth0? ip address assigned to it? something else? [00:50] mzz: unnecessary is said!!! [00:50] id rather see people test out Ubuntu in virtualbox.. [00:50] Dr_Willis: same here [00:51] i'd rather not see windows when i boot up every machine i buy. [00:51] Dr_Willis: altough when Wubi works properly, it gives people a feel for the system, and if there hardware will just work, but sure Live CD's do that anyway [00:51] why is that? [00:51] ActionParnsip: mandrake was grand i tried as a first install to make my classes [00:51] raylu: self build then ;) [00:51] ActionParsnip: laptop [00:51] how would i use something like %H in a terminal? I want to do something like mv x x_%h where %H is the hour [00:51] mzz: yes eth0. [00:51] Alinn1: "ifconfig" really should have that. [00:51] mib_xhcj46: look for the tabs near the top [00:51] raylu: ah [00:52] mzz: So I can learn a lot about the command prompt and debugging through the ubuntu wiki? Ok, the fsck is done and all that's left is to reboot. Thanks! [00:52] cached: mv x x_`date %H` [00:52] Alinn1: (see also "ifconfig -a" to include interfaces that are down) [00:52] sebsebseb: doesn't ubuntu run slower on a wubi install? [00:52] i have a tab that says spotchat (dead) and in it, it wont do anythign when i /join chan [00:52] thiebaude: it can do yeah, if Windows is all fragmented [00:52] has any one a mac pro with ubuntu on it for me work perfect perfect except the f... kbd need help ! [00:52] Attorney General Andrew Cuomo's office said the group ran a 24-hour prostitution ring called Room Service Entertainment from Craigslist's erotic services section from June 2007 to December 2008. [00:52] cached: mv x x_`date +%H` [00:52] Link23: perhaps, I'm not that familiar with that wiki. I really picked up odds and ends all over the place though. [00:52] cached: or a bit more readable mv x x_$(date %H) [00:52] Using Evince, how can I set an EXACT zoom percentage? [00:52] !ot | cxvxb [00:52] cxvxb: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks! [00:52] lol @ feds finally noticing the prostitution on craigslist [00:52] i'm trying to set up a firefox profile that is to be copied to a set of machines.. this worked just beautiful on the firefox version running on ubuntu intrepid, but after upgrading to jaunty (and firefox 3.0.9) this has stopped working.. firefox starts, but freezes after a couple of seconds.. in the process list it's listed as defunc.. [00:53] !wubi [00:53] Wubi is an Ubuntu installer for Windows users that allows you to install and uninstall Ubuntu like a Windows application, in a simple and safe way. http://wubi-installer.org/support.php for troubleshooting. Please file bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug. [00:53] zamba: is nfs involved? [00:53] interesting [00:53] mzz: Ok I'll search for some ones then. See you when I get back. [00:53] mib_xhcj46: safe way maybe not quite, since some computers can mess up when Wubi is done [00:53] chiques??? [00:53] mzz: correct [00:53] mzz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/176794/ [00:53] Would extracting the ISO directly to a USB flash drive work if I put USB as the first boot device? [00:54] Hi everyone, I'm using Ubuntu 8.04 LTS - Anyone knows which is the best website to find and install themes for my version of Ubuntu ? [00:54] !usb | Name141 [00:54] Name141: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent [00:54] ouin ! [00:54] when it is done? like virtual system turned off, settings are not left right? i dont even know if its really a virtual system [00:54] !themes | Gourlis [00:54] Gourlis: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy [00:54] Gourlis: no.. you could use 'unetbootin' to make a bootable flash drive [00:54] zamba: firefox (or really sqlite) can get really unhappy if the profile directory is on nfs (related to (stale or malfunctioning) filesystem locks) [00:54] sebsebseb, hi and thanks dude :) [00:54] Gourlis: np [00:54] sebsebseb: I don't want to install it from the USB drive. I want to keep it live, but make it run faster than the DVD [00:54] Name141: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ [00:54] mzz: well.. it works if i just wipe the existing .mozilla folder [00:54] or did i get nicks wrong.. :) heh [00:54] Name141: oh right [00:54] zamba: symptoms usually include bogus "profile in use" messages and the address bar and bookmarks/history malfunctioning completely. [00:55] yea i did. :) chat scrolled as i was reading. [00:55] sebsebseb, to do not mess up again with anything (am talking about me) gnome themes are for my edition ? [00:55] mzz: firefox just don't work here.. [00:55] Gourlis: that's for all of them [00:55] mzz: it launches and loads the home page, but then freezes entirely [00:55] sebsebseb: So I could just simply extract it to the flash drive and put USB as the first boot? [00:55] sebsebseb, oh nice! [00:55] mzz: if i remove the .mozilla folder and start firefox, it works just fine [00:55] Name141: not sure, since not done that myself [00:55] Name141: ... no. [00:55] Hm. [00:55] zamba: hmm. Wild guess: is this a terminal server-ish setup with tons of firefox instances running on one system? [00:55] mzz: nope [00:55] mzz: one firefox for each computer [00:55] anyone know a chan on freenode something like megworld [00:55] zamba: yes since then you got a new Firefox profile [00:55] Name141: see the link i gave you. give it your iso file and your usb drive and you'll be good to go [00:56] zamba: err, wait, that wouldn't explain it working without .mozilla. Can you narrow it down to a particular file you're copying? [00:56] I am planning the installation of a vm to run xp within linux, and would appreciate any insight anyone can share regarding either QEMU or XEN [00:56] raylu: OK. I gotta rearrange my external hard drives before I can plug the flash drive up anyway. [00:56] th0r: you may want to use virtualbox instead. [00:56] raylu: all my USB is plugged almost [00:56] th0r: I think I'd prefer virtualbox over qemu. I don't know about xen. [00:57] !xen [00:57] XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen [00:57] theres vmware too [00:57] th0r: xen is a radically different thing then virtualbox or qemu [00:57] chiques freaked out on my problem... i can definitely offer champagne to anyone who finds solution== not kidding [00:57] !vmware [00:57] VMWare is not available in the Ubuntu repositories. Consider using !QEmu or !VirtualBox as alternatives. Instructions for installing VMWare manually are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware [00:57] Dr_Willis: As I understand it you have to renew the licensing for virtualbox every year. [00:57] th0r: Not that ive ever noticed... [00:57] th0r: not if you use the ose edition [00:57] th0r: it has a free version.. [00:57] i'll try rephrasing with some more detail.. i'm running a set of computers that all log on to the different systems using the same user.. to prevent the different users messing with each other's setting, i use unionfs to combine the read-only home directory with a rw directory somewhere in /tmp, so that the user will still be able to write to their home directory (thus "fooling" programs that need to be able to write to a home folder).. [00:57] i never got qemu to work at all and virtualbox was easy to use an dim pretty sure its free [00:57] th0r: (err, that was a bit redundant, open source edition edition... :) [00:57] Dr_Willis: I am gathering that....I have started reading up on both and there are references to qemu within xen? [00:58] !info virtualbox-ose [00:58] Hi [00:58] virtualbox-ose (source: virtualbox-ose): x86 virtualization solution - binaries. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.4-dfsg-1ubuntu3 (jaunty), package size 8576 kB, installed size 31164 kB [00:58] so the home directory will only be a read-only starting point for the session [00:58] It appears as if I have deleted the ISO. I suppose I could simply use 8.10's CD extract it and make an ISO ? [00:58] th0r: yes, some of the qemu vm code is based on xen. [00:58] th0r: err, qemu! [00:58] this worked just fine in intrepid, but stopped working after upgrading to jaunty [00:58] sebsebseb: the studio room is dead :/ [00:58] !de [00:58] In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis. [00:58] so i'm guessing something has changed in firefox between those two versions [00:58] Dr_Willis: are you running virtual box? [00:59] th0r: i use virtualbox all the time. [00:59] th0r: you're right about them offering a version under a weirder license, but it's likely the open one does everything you need. There's a comparison on their site somewhere. [00:59] famax8: look under multimedia in synaptic and you will find most studio apps there [00:59] th0r: xen is a different sort of thing. and i dont think you can run xp in xen (at last you couldent last i looked) [00:59] th0r: I have a windows 2000 and ubuntu install running under virtualbox, they both work pretty well. [00:59] sebsebseb, i can install compiz themes on my ubuntu 8.04 LTS ? [00:59] mzz: I am really only interested in running xp under linux...although I don't know why I need it [01:00] sebsebseb: thanks i'll check if there is what i need [01:00] th0r: that works very well [01:00] th0r: xp under virtualbox should work fine. I don't remember if you can run it under xen unmodified now. [01:00] th0r: the only thing that really doesn't work is usb devices [01:00] hey all [01:00] the version from the web site does usb from what i gather.. [01:00] th0r: you should be able to get windows xp running under xen, but i think that needs some more tweaking [01:00] th0r: well, usb devices work if they work in the guest, iirc the trick where they're passed on to the guest unmodified doesn't work in virtualbox-ose though. [01:00] mzz: any idea about my problem? [01:01] mzz: i know using just a single user account for all the lab machine is a "bad idea" by design, but i don't think it's technically relevant.. [01:02] zamba: I'm assuming the unionfs setup lets you kill files in the profile directory one by one? Deleting which file makes it work again? Alternatively try strace-ing firefox to see what it gets stuck on. [01:02] well, looks like there is a lot more research in the queue now . Will put virtualbox back in consideration and see what I can learn from google. Thanks everyone for the comments....has certainly given me food for thought. [01:02] hi. which package contains update-rc.d? [01:02] mzz: i've tried that deleting file-by-file approach, but then i just ended up with it not starting at all :) [01:02] mzz: but i'll try strace and see what happens [01:03] zamba: that's really odd (if deleting the entire profile works so should deleting it file by file...) [01:03] felix_: you can use apt-file if no one replys [01:03] mzz: yeah.. one would assume [01:03] ActionParsnip, thanks [01:03] but i'll give it another go tomorrow.. [01:03] Hey does anyone use Tucan Manager? [01:03] problem was i had to get the computers up to run a course half an hour later, so i just wiped the .mozilla folder centrally and rebooted the computers.. [01:03] felix_: http://www.debianhelp.org/node/1262 === Paraselene__ is now known as Paraselene_ [01:04] the trade-off is slightly slower firefox startup the first time [01:04] zamba: there's a .parentlock in there you might've missed, but I wouldn't expect that to cause this. Or it might be the directory or profiles.ini, but I don't see how that could be either. [01:04] Can I just dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb and change the UUID's in menu.lst on the new drive │ aiOn [01:04] and boot from it? /dev/sdb is newer and larger but I plan to resize only the /home │ ajavid [01:04] mzz: i tried that file as well === saulus_ is now known as SauLus [01:05] DefunctProcess: iirc those uuids are part of the filesystem, not the drive. So they wouldn't change. Other than that: should work. [01:05] mzz: I'm not too sure the fsck worked but everything's good. [01:05] Link23: failed how? [01:06] DefunctProcess: (but get a second opinion, it's not like I've actually done this recently) [01:06] DefunctProcess: it's possible there's some subtlety involving drive geometry I'm overlooking [01:06] DefunctProcess: can use partimage if you want to do many ;) [01:06] mzz: When following the steps given on the fsck site, I didn't even seem to run a fsck. I am trying to run it without reboot now but it says running it on a mounted volume would cause system damage. Can you resend me the link to the site? I can't log at all so I don't know what it was. [01:06] mzz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/176794/ [01:06] Fohn: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-force-fsck-on-the-next-reboot-or-boot-sequence/ and you're correct [01:07] about? [01:07] mzz: well I can't find the file. [01:07] Fohn: the problem is you can't easily unmount / from a running system (this would involve dropping to single user mode, which is generally a hassle). So what you do is put in a marker file that causes the boot scripts to run fsck on the next boot. [01:07] can anyone help me install a quickcam express into 9.04? No app can find the webcam [01:07] Hi all. I'm trying to install Ubuntu onto a netbook using a USB Flash Drive. I followed the directions to use dd to copy the iso to the drive, but the drive is not bootable. This is a freshly formatted FAT 32 drive. Any ideas? [01:07] Link23: what file? [01:08] wasn't there supposed to be a file when I ran the fsck? [01:08] mzz: I did that, but it didn't seem to fsck. I will retry, though. [01:08] Fohn: they can run fsck early on in the boot process, before / is mounted readwrite. This is a bit easier than shutting down enough of the system that you can safely remount it readonly, running fsck, remounting it readwrite, and restarting the world. [01:08] Artissimo: what command did you use exactly? [01:08] raylu, Dr_Willis: Thanks! It worked. [01:08] Fohn: it's possible /forcefsck isn't actually used by the ubuntu boot system (I'm not really familiar with it) [01:09] cached: geat! err.. what worked? [01:09] Dr_Willis: dd if=/ubuntu.iso of=/disk/disk3 bs=8m [01:09] Alrighty, mzz, thanks for the help. I'll keep looking into it. [01:09] Dr_Willis: the `date +%H` thing [01:09] Enter text here... [01:09] Artissimo: well.. you dd to the /dev/sdd if the usb is sdd.. NOT NOT NOT sd3 [01:09] hello [01:09] Artissimo: if thumb drive is /dev/sdb - its dd if=XXXX of=/dev/sdb [01:10] Artissimo: and this will totally erase the stuff on the thumbdrive [01:10] !hi | hasan45oslo [01:10] hasan45oslo: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu! [01:10] Artissimo: (obviously be *very* careful the /dev/sdwhatever you target is not a hd with data on it) [01:10] Dr_Willis: I could only /dev/disk3 [01:10] can someone help me intsall my T43 drivers? I'd appreciate any help! [01:11] Artissimo: 'disk' that makes no sence.. you access the device by its device name.. plug in the thumbdrive.. wait a few moments run and 'dmesg' command and see what the system sees it as.. === orochi is now known as orochi_ [01:11] mugen: T43? [01:11] Dr_Willis: Im on os x [01:11] mzz: What's supposed to happen after an fsck? [01:11] Gnea: i'm sorry thinkpad T43 [01:11] Link23: ideally: nothing, it'll just delay boot a little. [01:12] mugen: what drivers? [01:12] Artissimo: then you need to fighre out how to access the 'root' of the thumbdrive then i guess. You dont do it to a partition on the drive.. you do it to the 'whole drive' [01:12] Link23: but reinstalling xulrunner shouldn't have fixed anything unless your installed xulrunner got corrupted through filesystem damage. [01:12] Gnea: Video card drivers [01:12] mzz: then I guess it might have worked. [01:12] Does anyone use Tucan download manager? [01:12] guess not >_> [01:12] Dr_Willis: Hm... perhaps someone should update the ubuntu guide then [01:13] mugen: i'd google but my mouse just went kaput. what video card? [01:13] Artissimo: the guide i saw was rather clear in saying use /dev/sda not /dev/sda1 [01:13] Gnea: well i searched the ibm website and it looks like i have this (one sec let me get the page) [01:13] Artissimo: but i am on a pc/linux box. [01:13] Dr_Willis: on the official ubunut site? [01:13] !laptop | mugen [01:14] mugen: Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org [01:14] Artissimo: its a 'disk' image - not a 'partition' image.. so it has to be to the whole disk.. sort of sucks in ways.. if you dd the image to a 16gb thumbdrive it will basically waste the otehr 15gb at the end. [01:14] Dr_Willis: I can use network boot to boot it wilth a remote iso? [01:15] Artissimo: no idea. You could boot a linux live cd.. and use the more normal linux 'dd' and device names [01:15] mugen: you can find out, also, like this: lspci | grep VGA [01:15] Hi [01:15] I dont want to waste a cd [01:15] ;-) [01:15] mzz: I uninstalled a few other things that were required. Also I learned that epiphany was also affected by xulrunner and it crashed to so... [01:15] Artissimo: blasphemy! ;) [01:15] Link23: yep, they share the engine. [01:15] Artissimo: ask in the os-x channels then how to dd somthing to a disk, not a partition [01:15] Hi I'm new here [01:16] Link23: might want to install a simple webkit-based browser (is midori packaged?) for cases like this. [01:16] packages dl fast but still 1 mbs i dont get it [01:16] somebody can help me? [01:16] !hi|cora [01:16] cora: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu! [01:16] !ask | Cora [01:16] Cora: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [01:16] Oki doki [01:16] Cora: ok what would you like help with? [01:16] mzz: Ok, I'll find one [01:16] Gnea: this is what i got (http://paste.ubuntu.com/176801/) [01:16] Dr_Willis: They are dead ;-) ... I will search around online [01:16] Gnea: I don't like the !ask trigger message that much [01:16] sebsebseb: then don't use it [01:17] (we're horribly impersonal, aren't we) [01:17] The new version 9.04 is stable now [01:17] mzz, Link23 last I checked midori was packaged but not with a stable version in the default repositories. Google for how to enable a ppa repository for it. [01:17] Gnea: I use it sometimes though [01:17] Cora: yes, released officially [01:17] because I was trouble installing [01:17] raylu: you were right [01:17] Cora: did you md5 check the iso? [01:18] yes [01:18] 15-20 min later, i finished making the godfather theme in garageband for hte harp :D [01:18] Cora: good [01:18] Cora: during what part of the installation? [01:18] The instalation was fine [01:18] "openssh-server: Depends: libcomerr2 (>= cursor-theme-extra) but 1.41.4-1ubuntu1 is to be installed" [01:18] Does anyone know what package contains regex.h? [01:19] but when I run [01:19] !find regex.h [01:19] Found: libtie-regexphash-perl [01:19] that one khaled_ :) [01:19] anyone else getting that problem? The libcomerr package is already installed [01:19] Dr_Willis: didnt know she did that [01:19] the compiz doesn't work [01:19] Dr_Willis: [01:19] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromImgFiles#Mac%20OS%20X [01:19] Cora: did you setup your video drivers? [01:19] and I've never seen anything like >=cursor-theme-extra [01:19] Cora: you need to install video drivers [01:19] That guide says to just install to /dev/disk3 :-/ [01:20] I try find the video drivers [01:20] these are both in theory the latest versions from the official sources [01:20] Dr_Willis: were we talking about fusesmb yesterday? [01:20] so I think my video card is black list [01:20] mugen: (sec, just got my mouse working) [01:20] Cora: lspci | grep -i vga will get you started [01:20] and openssh is working fine and dandy atm, I just can't install anything else [01:20] Gnea: No problem! I appreicate your help very much [01:20] Dr_Willis: I am trying to configure an app that asks for regfree in -lregex but apparently, I don't have the package that contains regfree [01:20] hello, I'm having issues with windows connecting to my shared folder on ubuntu. It can connect to my /home/user/public folder.. but it can't connect to a shared drive. I have set the permissions of the drive to allow guests, but I keep getting a "Network Access denied" error when I try to access it [01:21] and I return to Intrepid [01:21] Dr_Willis: Do you know what package may contain this function? [01:21] which type of themes i can install on ubuntu 8.04 LTS ? [01:21] mugen: okay, so you've got an intel 915GM [01:21] coeus82: run: sudo smbpasswd $USER [01:21] !themes | Gourlis [01:21] Gourlis: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy [01:21] coeus82: then type your password for the samba password [01:21] eseven73, i saw the sites but i can't install any theme i want. [01:22] Gourlis, don't unzip the zip file [01:22] ActionParsnip: it doesn't ask me for a password and I also set it for guest access [01:22] just drag the file to the theme manager [01:22] coeus82: sorry, sudo smbpasswd -a $USER [01:22] mugen: have you tried System->Administration->Hardware drivers? [01:22] eseven73, thx ;p i was extracted them [01:22] So my friend tell me my video card is black listed [01:22] common problem :D [01:22] eseven73, sorry am a newbie :P haha [01:23] coeus82: that may be why you are being denied access [01:23] hi, i don't quite know what i did or what i broke. i had normal desktop effects working fine, then after i rebooted, it reverts to none, my gnome panels are gone, and window titlebars are gone (is that called window decorator?) [01:23] Cora: how can you be so sure? what video card is it? [01:23] Gnea: "no proprietary drivers to use on the system" [01:23] Gourlis, Ive been using Ubuntu since 7.04 Gutsy Gibbon, im still a noob so don't feel bad ;) [01:23] panfist: yes its the window decorator [01:23] Is Intel [01:24] My lap is Toshiba Satellite [01:24] panfist: are you running compiz? [01:24] Cora: ah, you and mugen have similar video cards then [01:24] Cora what model? [01:24] i think so, is compiz enabled on jaunty in normal desktop effects? [01:24] A205 sp5830 [01:24] Cora, I have an old satellite P30 running [01:24] da [01:24] !ot [01:24] #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks! [01:24] hi [01:24] ahh, i have an older satellite, just curious [01:24] panfist: not sure, i have a script to remove all that fluff after a clean install [01:24] im spanish [01:25] raylu: i followed ur advice [01:25] about not wasting time on the emailing thing [01:25] :D [01:25] !es | luis_ [01:25] luis_: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es. [01:25] hola alguien habla español [01:25] !es | luis_ [01:25] when i reboot, i can right click on my desktop, go to change background, which opens the appearance settings and then i can change back to normal visual effects and the window decorator comes back [01:25] I read an Ubuntu Forums the some models of toshiba works the upgrade [01:25] actionparsnip but i want some of the fluff, not all of it [01:25] panfist: if you use the cube desktop then you are using compiz [01:25] Hola Luis [01:25] no cube [01:25] eseven73, then drag tar.gz in to change desktop theme in to Theme ? [01:25] ActionParsnip: I just did that, restarted Samba and still get an access denied in windows [01:25] Are there any quick ways to open up a File Browser as root in Ubuntu? [01:25] Cora, mugen: check this out: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Jaunty#Fix_Intel_915_resolution_problem [01:25] Oopes [01:26] I am trying to install this program called mohegan [01:26] coeus82: can i see your /etc/samba/smb.conf please use pastebin [01:26] ActionParsnip: I can access the shared folder "public" in my home directory without problems, but I can't access the shared mounted drive [01:26] Gourlis, yep just drag the file to the theme manager [01:26] Gnea: Thanks [01:26] reddbull: sudo nautilus should work [01:26] would there be a log stating why the window decorator crashed or why the effects were reverted to off? [01:26] reddbull: gksudo nautilus [01:26] reddbull: if you use nautilus [01:26] it says i don't have privleges to copy files to my /usr/share/gnome-screensaver/ So how do i extract it there,I'm trying for terminal but what was the command to extract ? [01:26] Hey guys, I just installed Ubuntu Netbook Remix on my eee PC 1000HE and everything works great except the sound doesn't work, any hints? [01:26] eseven73, i dragged kore-berylthemes.tar.gz there something loads fast but doesn't appear there then.. [01:26] Cora, mugen: make sure you're using either the vesa or intel driver - that sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg command can help with setting it up right [01:26] infinityxi: sudo is not for gui apps [01:26] alguien habla español aki [01:26] !sound | bragr [01:26] bragr: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3 [01:26] it is if you're running it from a terminal [01:27] infinityxi: no, its not [01:27] then would it matter? unless he asked for a shortcut [01:27] alguna chica x aki que hable español [01:27] Gourlis, beryl is outdated, I don't think themes for beryl even work anymore [01:27] infinityxi: it doesnt set up the environment correctly [01:27] !beryl | Gourlis [01:27] Gourlis: Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion. New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz [01:27] o alguna sala [01:27] Luis: Hola [01:27] ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.ca/1429454 [01:27] hola cora === daBomb69 is now known as Kerby === Kerby is now known as Kirby [01:27] infinityxi: sudo is only for cli commands like apt-get, cp, mv, rm etc [01:27] !compiz [01:27] Compiz (compositing window manager), for a howto see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager and more help #compiz [01:27] como estas? [01:27] Luis: Bien...y tu [01:27] !es | luis_ [01:27] infinityxi: gksudo sets up the environment for gui apps [01:27] luis_: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es. [01:27] bien === Kirby is now known as Guest13200 [01:27] hey [01:27] de donde eres [01:28] !english [01:28] The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat [01:28] infinityxi: kde has kdesudo to do the same thing === Guest13200 is now known as daBomb69 [01:28] thanks mod [01:28] Gnea: Sorry [01:28] how do i extract folder to /usr/share/gnome-screensaver/ with privlages whats the commandline or how do i do it [01:28] i am skopen english basic [01:28] ok i stand corrected. the first line was sufficient/ [01:28] im from peru [01:28] Cora: it's cool [01:29] bye cora [01:29] see you tomorrow === daBomb69 is now known as _ [01:29] Gnea: You think I can upgrade de OS and don't have any trouble or is better wait more [01:29] in not speaker spanish [01:29] coeus82: try adding a line in the definition that says valid users = [01:29] Cora: well, you're on jaunty now? [01:29] infinityxi, ActionParsnip, thanks, just what I needed :-) [01:29] Gnea: I'm sorry but my english is bad === _ is now known as Guest27882 [01:29] ActionParsnip: what user name do I put? My username? [01:29] Cora: nah, it's fine [01:29] X freezes up when i have firefox/galeon open with too many photos [01:29] luis_: what language do you speak? [01:30] Gnea: No I"m on Intrepid [01:30] Hello, I am using a laptop and tried to use an extra display to make a wide desktop for while at home. Since getting that to work I have 2 black bars on the side of my display reducing usable space. Tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg and sudo displayconfig-gtk with no help. I am using ubuntu 9.04 netbook remix on a dell inspiron b120. Thanks for any help. [01:30] coeus82: sure, and any others you want to be able to connect === Guest27882 is now known as daBomb69 [01:30] it is spanglish [01:30] ActionParsnip: what about guests? [01:30] infinityxi: if you get people all of a sudden not able to open an app due to not been able to write to a file in ntheir own home directory its usually becasue they've used sudo gedit ;) [01:31] Gnea: I down grade [01:31] Cora: oh ok, you *could* try to upgrade, but I would try to get it work first [01:31] coeus82: its not something i've used so couldnt comment [01:31] Gnea: In live cd [01:31] coeus82: i use samba but dislike open guest accounts [01:31] ////////77 [01:31] / [01:31] Cora: if you are in livecd, then it will do no good [01:31] wow [01:31] asd: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. === asd is now known as michele [01:32] ActionParsnip: hmm, still doesn't work.. it doesn't even ask me for a login/pass [01:32] just says access denied [01:32] Hi all. Is there a star raiders style game for ubuntu? [01:32] Gnea: No, I said I try Jaunty in Live cd === michele is now known as M1CH3L3 [01:32] Cora: oooh ok, sorry [01:32] Live CD [01:32] !games | dsnyders [01:32] dsnyders: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php [01:32] Gnea: Sorry my english is so bad... [01:32] GAMES OF UBUNTU [01:32] !caps [01:32] PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too. [01:32] luis_: please stop [01:33] X freezes up when i have firefox/galeon open with too many photos [01:33] Thanks Chris. I'll check those sites. [01:33] so switch to opera [01:33] !repeat | gartral [01:33] coeus82: try username guest with no password [01:33] gartral: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience [01:33] dsnyders: :) [01:33] Is there a howto on installing compiz or is there a newer desktop thingie like compiz to install? [01:33] ActionParsnip: I noticed that the permissions on /media/disc (the drive I'm trying to share) is drwx------ [01:34] Gnea: The firsth time I update my OS directly [01:34] !compiz | godzirra [01:34] godzirra: Compiz (compositing window manager), for a howto see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager and more help #compiz [01:34] Thanks Chr|s [01:34] godzirra: np :) [01:34] ActionParsnip: However, I can't modify the permissions for some reason [01:34] Cora: from 8.04? [01:34] Gnea: Yes [01:34] :) [01:35] Gnea: So don't work, the graphics was terrible and slow [01:35] Hi guys, I need some help. [01:35] !help [01:35] Hi! I'm #ubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots [01:35] Chr|s, Would you classify Star Raiders as arcade, action, first person shooter, or simulation? [01:35] My neighbor has a desktop that needs wireless internet, and she's on ubuntu 8.10 [01:35] Gnea: And I need fixed the compiz, because that don't work [01:36] Chr|s: ive been asking for a few hours, waiting about 15 mins between >.> [01:36] i need help abaout my graphic cards [01:36] !ask | Ripzerskins [01:36] Ripzerskins: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [01:36] Cora: okay, can you please pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file? [01:36] can any one help me???? [01:36] hello, I'm trying to add http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntugis/ubuntugis-unstable/ubuntu to my sources.list but I always got a gpg error, somebody knows what's the real key or some link to setup this ? [01:36] !helpme | xyleborus [01:36] xyleborus: Avoid your questions being followed by a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !patience [01:36] Gnea: Ok, just wait a sec [01:36] gartral: did you figure out the speex question yet? Do you have access to the system through ssh or the like while it is stuck? [01:36] xyleborus: also, tell us what video card you have, please [01:37] Cora: sure thing [01:37] I need to find a wireless networking usb drive that will work with ubuntu 8.10. I don't know where else to look. Any suggestions? [01:37] Mack: :D [01:37] xyleborus: ask, the room will reply if it can [01:37] jfalvarez, the key is on the ppa page, or you can google launchpad master key file [01:37] !hcl | Ripzerskins [01:37] Ripzerskins: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection [01:37] raylu: and about a half hour later, the godfather written in garageband for the harp :D [01:37] !wireless | Ripzerskins (a list of compatible wireless USB cards can be found here) [01:37] Ripzerskins (a list of compatible wireless USB cards can be found here): Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [01:37] Mack: nice [01:37] lol yeah [01:37] Ripzerskins: best way dude, buy what is mega compatible for zero or minimal issues [01:38] mzz: the speex thing was a pebcak, and yes, it *is* Xorg that hangs, i do have ssh access, but i can't kill x unless i zap it, or alt-sysrq-k [01:38] Hello, I am using a laptop and tried to use an extra display to make a wide desktop for while at home. Since getting that to work I have 2 black bars on the side of my display reducing usable space. Tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg and sudo displayconfig-gtk with no help. I am using ubuntu 9.04 netbook remix on a dell inspiron b120. Thanks for any help. [01:38] Thanks everyone. [01:38] gartral: anything interesting in either /var/log/Xorg.0.log or dmesg while it is stuck, and what driver is this? [01:38] does anyone know how to make windows app like mabinogi work on ubuntu [01:38] mzz: nvidia 180's.. [01:38] freeinput: 2 black bars? are they horizontal or vertical and what side are they on? [01:39] qazavul: tried wine? [01:39] wuts wine [01:39] freeinput: sounds like you just need to change what resolution the screen is in, using either xrandr or your favorite gui equivalent [01:39] !wine | qazavul [01:39] qazavul: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu [01:39] mzz: he might also just need to hit the 'auto adjust' button on his monitor [01:39] mzz: i also get the "random horizontal black bars" syndrom [01:39] is it free [01:39] I'm having some issues, and I'm hoping it isn't with my video card. I've installed ubuntu 9.04 on a laptop, but when I ran the installation on the LiveCD, my screen displayed the installer kind of broken up (I can provide a picture if you'd like) and disjointed. I went through the install with the disjunct display, and booting the OS from the HDD comes up with the same issue. This also happened when I tried to use a slackware distro as [01:40] is it possible with compiz to assign an application to always open on a specific space? [01:40] gartral: where? [01:40] qazavul: yes [01:40] qazavul: uhm, yes, xrandr is part of xorg, which has been free since day #1 [01:40] or just xfce in general [01:40] Gnea: they are on both sides of the screen, my screen resolution is messed up. I tried xrandr and no help [01:40] qazavul: its a best effort abstraction for windows apps. Not everything works well, some dont even work at all [01:40] The usb network drives on those pages are all either outdate or discontinued. Any other suggestions? [01:40] Ripzerskins i use a linksys wireless g usb and it works in 8.10 [01:40] Gnea: I have a trouble...I can't open it [01:40] qazavul: some work amazingly [01:40] freeinput, You could try [ctrl][alt][num+/num-] to flip through your resolution modes. [01:40] freeinput: have you tried the 'auto adjust' button on the monitor? or is it a CRT? [01:40] linuxman410: Thanks. [01:40] Gnea: I was assuming we were talking about the laptop builtin device. You definitely have a point if it's the external monitor. [01:40] hey. does anyone have any idea why moving windows with compiz on (wobbly windows or not) lags, while other more intense parts of compiz (cube, fire, atlantis, etc.) don't lag at all? [01:40] qazavul: sudo apt-get install wine [01:41] mzz: accross websites at random, and "stick" bars on desktop background [01:41] Gnea: Please forgive me because I'm newbie [01:41] gartral: eep. I have no idea if that's a known nvidia thing, I don't use it myself. [01:41] mzz: ill screencap Wolframalpha in firefox, one moment [01:41] gartral: one thing that's worth trying if you haven't already is disabling desktop effects (compiz) temporarily [01:41] fsufitch: at what point does it lag? i found a thread about a problem i was having in regards to fglrx drivers and compiz [01:41] Cora: just do this: sudo apt-get install pastebinit and then: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit [01:41] fsufitch: recompositing transparency is very intensive [01:41] Cora: np, that's why we're here to help :) [01:42] hi wirechief [01:42] mzz: nah, i run with no effects, this system isn't all that powerful [01:42] mzz: well, based on what he said initially, it sounded like he had an external monitor to split the screen between that and the builtin [01:42] gartral: I'd also try the open drivers if you're using the closed ones currently or vice versa, but I don't know if that's an option with your hardware. [01:42] I am on a laptop display and didn't see a auto adjust botton [01:42] schambers2, raylu, it lags all the time i'm moving the window, and even on opaque windows. i'm getting about 5 fps on moving the window, while the rest is running at smooth speed [01:42] linuxman410: I'm seeing reviews on newegg that say this has bad signal reach [01:42] * the rest = while i'm not moving a window [01:42] freeinput: I may have misunderstood what you said initially [01:42] oh i saw something different [01:43] my maximize/minimize lags about 2 seconds due to a bug in fglrx drivers [01:43] Ripzerskins mine works just fine and has a good reach [01:43] fsufitch: that's strange indeed. what graphics card? also, glxinfo/xdpyinfo [01:43] schambers2, i'm using the official nvidia driver [01:43] I'm having some issues, and I'm hoping it isn't with my video card. I've installed ubuntu 9.04 on a laptop, but when I ran the installation on the LiveCD, my screen displayed the installer kind of broken up (I can provide a picture if you'd like) and disjointed. I went through the install with the disjunct display, and booting the OS from the HDD comes up with the same issue. This also happened when I tried to use a slackware distro as [01:43] mzz: nonme exist that i can find, its a geforce 6200 [01:43] fsufitch: yeah, i have an ati card :/ [01:43] raylu, GeForce 8400M GS 256 MB [01:44] Gnea: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? [01:44] linuxman410: Thanks. Going to order one. How do you install it in 8.10? It comes with a cd. I'm curious, ndiswrapper or something? [01:44] how can i check if my webcam driver is loaded? [01:44] schambers2, the very reason i use nvidia is because of the crap i had gone thru with ati and intel in the past [01:44] gartral: mmm, if you're using the closed drivers you might want to try #nvidia, and definitely check what the last thing in Xorg.0.log and dmesg is when it gets stuck [01:44] P4R41: cheese is a good app to test [01:44] no 8.10 just reconized it [01:44] yeah [01:44] cheese isn't seeing the webcam [01:44] the ati drivers are a joke [01:44] Cora: is it? do you have upgrade-manager or synaptic running? [01:44] i use it in 9.04 now [01:44] i mean they work for the most part, but there is obviously issues [01:44] but i had that issue before and another app did see it. can't remember which tho [01:45] the net traffic module of gnome-system-monitor get data from /proc ? [01:45] Gnea: jeje sorry I try again [01:45] schambers2: fglrx is on the way out, and the open ones are improving (at least 2d should work properly in many cards now) [01:45] how can i check if a module is loaded? [01:45] fglrx is a joke [01:45] P4R41: lsmod === schambers2 is now known as schambers [01:45] P4R41: lsmod | grep [01:45] sorry hard for me to keep up. to much talking. :) I put an external montior on and since I did my montier on my laptop res is messed up. just have the laptop moniter right now and tried to fix it but the res that I had in not an option now. [01:45] I agree that fglrx is not your friend, and definitely not currently. [01:45] the net traffic module of gnome-system-monitor get data from /proc ? [01:45] e [01:46] wanneng: it might. You'd have to check the code. [01:46] freeinput: oooh okay - do you have them set to the same res? [01:46] my laptop is a T42 that has a Radeon 7500 builtin [01:46] wanneng: (I think the data it displays is or at least was available through /proc/, but that may not be the only way) [01:46] Ripzerskins you might get it cheaper on ebay 8.10 reconzed it i hook it up and then booted computer [01:46] and fglrx don't support it [01:46] radeon driver does [01:46] mzz: with my laptop (lenovo w500), the open source ones cause a dramatic heat rise in the video card. the fglrx drivers don't overheat the vid card [01:46] DeepDayze: yeah, you definitely don't want fglrx for that hardware [01:46] schambers, raylu, it also looks like the moving window is not being vsynced (just the window). it has that annoying refresh cutoff line. does that give any clue? [01:46] DeepDayze: w500 here [01:46] the old IBM T42 is a nice machine [01:47] schambers: hmm, have you checked "man radeon" or the #radeon channel for options to underclock it or otherwise control power? [01:47] mzz:thank you [01:47] fsufitch: i haven't used compiz in a long time; no idea, sorry :P [01:47] i spiffed mine up [01:47] linuxman410: haha that's awesome. Well, I'm not paying for it, so I'm not looking for too much of a bargain. Newegg has never sold me a defective product. [01:47] schambers: Option "DynamicClocks" "on" sounds promising. [01:47] raylu, okay then :) [01:47] mzz: hmm [01:47] I did when I had it conected, but I don't need the have the external connected all the time. But when I disconected my main didn't go back to how it was from a fresh install. [01:47] mzz: interesting. [01:47] the open source radeon drivers are the xorg-...-radeon drivers correct? [01:47] I have partitioned my HDD and installed XP. I am here using the Ubuntu boot disc OS. what is the next step in making a 2 OS HDD? [01:48] Ripzerskins hope you like it i know mine works great [01:48] hey [01:48] freeinput: after you disconnected the external, did you try restarting X? [01:48] sorenubuntu: Make a second partition with ubuntu on it. If you already have two partitiosn just select the second partition and install [01:48] SorenUbuntu, google dual-boot ubuntu start there [01:48] mzz: this is an option to set in x config? [01:48] No I did not, but I did restart the computer a couple times. [01:48] schambers: yes, in the Device section for your card [01:49] linuxman410: My neighbor will, I'll like the payment I get for your help :D [01:49] schambers: check in the manpage if your version of the driver supports it though [01:49] Ripzerskins: IDK how, I am very new [01:49] Gnea there are 2 instance where the module name comes up but the applications still can't see the webcam [01:49] linuxman410: due to [01:49] Gnea: there are 2 instance where the module name comes up but the applications still can't see the webcam [01:49] sorenubuntu: You're on a live cd right? [01:49] mzz: thanks [01:49] Ripzerskins: yes [01:49] i have no sound in youtube. I'm using ubuntu 9.04 [01:49] P4R41: is your user account part of the video group? [01:50] sorenubuntu: There should be an icon that says install to hard drive or something on your desktop [01:50] !sound | nimrod [01:50] nimrod: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3 [01:50] Gnea: Ok, so this is the result [01:50] Ripzerskins: yes [01:50] nimrod: also, how did you install your flash plugin? [01:50] Ripzerskins: it says "Install" [01:50] sorenubuntu: click on that, it'll make you go through the usual install new os process, then when you get to partion manager simply click on the partition that doesn't have xp on it [01:50] Gnea: http://pastebin.com/F7addd030 [01:50] mzz: mine is a radeon hd card tho [01:50] sorenubuntu wait for a second [01:50] mzz: is that the same manpage? [01:51] The requested URL /F7addd030 was not found on this server. [01:51] Gnea: there isn't a video group [01:51] Cora: ^^^ [01:51] hi i'm looking for a doc describing how to rebuild debian package gcc-4.3 (after adding a patch) [01:51] P4R41: sure there is, #44 [01:51] Gnea: Is wrong? [01:51] P4R41: open a terminal and type: id [01:51] Gnea: i installed flash in firefox [01:51] Gnea: Would it make a difference from restarting x and restarting the computer? [01:51] my sound works, but sometimes it randomly cuts out [01:51] nimrod: k [01:51] sorenubuntu: nevermind, I don't know how to help you from there. When it asks for a file type or whatever choose the first from the drop box. [01:51] !flash | nimrod [01:51] nimrod: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also !Restricted and !Gnash [01:51] what can I do to reenable it? modprobe it again? [01:51] Hi iam a noob to ubuntu.I would like to know how to connect to a internet connection using modem which is currently removed from ubuntu 9.04 version [01:51] schambers: it matches the driver name specified in xorg.conf (or autodetected and showing up in Xorg.0.log). Should be radeon or radeonhd. [01:52] sorenubuntu: It's been a long time since I've installed [01:52] hey guys how do I install one specific package from the testing repository? Namely wine 1.1.21 ? [01:52] ok its radeon [01:52] nimrod: please check that guide and make sure it's installed that way - if you downloaded it directly off of adobe's site, it won't work [01:52] Sorenubuntu: Back up files on xp, and install. [01:52] Gnea: What happen? [01:52] Gnea: the user isn't in the video group, i was using the gui user management [01:52] Ripzerskins: ok, I will hang around and wait for another helper, but tyvm [01:52] ok, Gnea [01:52] Gnea: whats the command to add to the group [01:52] freeinput, restarting is kind of a Windows crazy thing, same with defragging, virus scanning, not really needed on Linux [01:52] mzz: when i install xubuntu 9.04 it installs the xorg-radeon driver by default, but i uninstalled it because of the heat issues [01:52] anyone here install Mohegan? [01:52] SorenUbuntu: This is sort of one of those things most people point you towards google for. [01:53] sorenubuntu: You might as well hit install and learn for yourself [01:53] Ripzerskins: , ok [01:53] SorenUbuntu: or... you know... google [01:53] anyone here install Mohegan? [01:53] Cora: did you paste it right? [01:53] SorenUbuntu: good luck [01:53] ty [01:53] Gnea: yes [01:53] hey guys how do I install one specific package from the testing repository? Namely wine 1.1.21 ? [01:53] Cora: try again [01:54] !latest | imonthecomputer [01:54] imonthecomputer: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are: fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports. [01:54] eseven73: I turn off my computer every night and sometimes my computer tells me to after installing a program. But would that also restart x? [01:54] yep [01:54] * anternative np: 02 [00:15m/652Kbps/32KHz] [01:54] P4R41: check the properties for your user, in the 'user privelages' tab, make sure you select "Capture video from TV or Webcams" [01:55] anternative, please turn that off in here [01:55] Gnea: No, I'm using cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit [01:55] mzz: #nvidia is ##dead [01:55] Gnea: its marked as allowed to do so [01:55] eseven73, thanks [01:55] Gnea: and the result is the same (whith different numbers) [01:55] Cora: wait - found it [01:55] mzz: i take it back [01:56] hey folks how u all doin? im new 2 linux &have problem with adobe flash full screen. can any1 help please! [01:56] ok [01:56] Cora: http://pastebin.com/f5552d134 :) [01:56] ubottu, and yes I know it is a huge bug fix for me thanks for the help [01:56] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [01:56] gartral: I probably can't help unless it's something unrelated to the drivers and/or logged [01:56] Gnea: yes! [01:56] Gnea: so now?? [01:56] mzz: i could pastebin the log... but i don't know what to look for.. [01:57] Cora: okay, it says that you don't have any default video driver set... does it allow you to select the intel one if you do this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg [01:57] gartral: only interesting if it's a log for a stuck Xorg (which means /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old might work depending on if you restarted after the last hang) [01:57] Venom010: ask your question first! [01:57] eseven73, what is the syntax for that command? [01:57] are the xorg display drivers that are in synaptic manager the open source display drivers? [01:58] schambers: they should be [01:58] any1 know a good program to run a live talk show. like maybe something that has buttons you can press to play sounds and stuff [01:58] imonthecomputer, for? [01:58] schambers: (unless they're obviously not, due to being called fglrx or the like :) [01:58] Gnea: Command not found [01:58] Cora: are you sure you typed it right? [01:59] mzz: i had, yes [01:59] hi, concerning debian package gcc-4.3, it there something special in packaging this package, because there is a tar.bz2 instead of source, and running debuild is not sufficient to rebuild the package, thanks [01:59] schambers: synaptic just lists what's in the repos. both open and closed drivers are in the repos [01:59] !backports [01:59] If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging [01:59] my problem with sound in Ubuntu 9.04 isn't only a youtube problem.... with rhythmbox and banshee to i'm having trouble [01:59] so i'm confused... i have the xorg-radeon drivers installed.... [01:59] but i also enabled the propitary drivers via "hardware drivers" [01:59] whats the difference? [02:00] eseven73, nevermind I am a noob :P [02:00] schambers: drivers can be installed but not used. if you enabled the driver via the drivers manager then it will be active [02:00] schambers: the proprietary drivers should be in a package with "fglrx" in the name, iirc. [02:00] hehe imonthecomputer :) [02:00] Gnea: I typed tree times [02:00] i see [02:01] so just because they're installed via synaptic, doesnt mean they're in use [02:01] Gnea: command not found [02:01] mzz: heres the old [02:01] I'm having some issues, and I'm hoping it isn't with my video card. I've installed ubuntu 9.04 on a laptop, but when I ran the installation on the LiveCD, my screen displayed the installer kind of broken up (I can provide a picture if you'd like) and disjointed. I went through the install with the disjunct display, and booting the OS from the HDD comes up with the same issue. This also happened when I tried to use a slackware distro as [02:01] mzz: here's current http://gar.pastebin.com/f6a42e9fe [02:02] Cora: can you copy/paste with mouse? [02:02] mzz: heres the old http://gar.pastebin.com/f30819c87 <- forgot something, there, did'nt I? [02:02] Gnea: yes [02:02] Cora: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg [02:02] gartral: err, it going "Initialized AGP Gart." over and over again definitely doesn't look normal to me, but it's hard to tell since I haven't used that driver in ages [02:03] how can i mount iso files on ubuntu.. i mean like daemon tools on windows? is there a program available on linux [02:03] gartral: anything related in dmesg? [02:03] syntax\: mount -o loop,ro /path/to/file /path/to/mount/point [02:03] Gnea:xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration [02:03] file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20090520200315 [02:03] when i play music on rythmbox it skips and screws up, can you buffer or suggest another decent music player? [02:03] syntax\: err, add a sudo to that, but you get the idea [02:03] syntax\: no need for such hacks.. :) its a feature of the OS.. been a feature for years.. [02:03] !iso | syntax\ [02:03] syntax\: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning. [02:04] after i upgraded from ubuntu 8.10 to 9.04 the sound sounds weird in rhythmbox [02:04] mzz | Dr_Willis sweet thanks [02:04] syntax\: this does only work for actual iso images. There are conversion utilities out there that convert from weirder formats to standard iso. [02:04] !sound | nimrod [02:04] nimrod: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3 [02:05] Gnea: so what you think? [02:05] mzz: should i grep the output for anything? [02:05] Cora I had same thing happen to me. [02:05] gartral: just pastebin the last 100 lines or so [02:05] syntax\: theres lso the 'fuseiso' and 'fuseiso9660' tools. [02:05] gartral: I'm not really sure what I'm looking for, mainly anything involving agpgart [02:05] freeinput: So I'm not alone [02:05] I tried that like 3 times today. [02:06] mzz: dmesg | tail 100 right? [02:06] gartral: dmesg|tail -n100|pastebinit [02:06] I think that has to do with my res on my screen is bad. [02:06] freeinput: so, when I up grade my lap was slow [02:06] mzz: http://gar.pastebin.com/f2a301ba4 [02:06] freeinput: so I Install intrepid again [02:07] I not sure. I am tring to find out now myself. I am using januty myself [02:07] Gnea: I think jaunty don't work well in my lap [02:07] Gnea: I think is my video card [02:07] Gnea: Is black listed [02:08] hi guys [02:08] I'm having some issues, and I'm hoping it isn't with my video card. I've installed ubuntu 9.04 on a laptop, but when I ran the installation on the LiveCD, my screen displayed the installer kind of broken up (I can provide a picture if you'd like) and disjointed. I went through the install with the disjunct display, and booting the OS from the HDD comes up with the same issue. This also happened when I tried to use a slackware distro as [02:08] Anyone know how to trigger a mouse click from a shell script? [02:08] gartral: mmm, agpgart-sis. Not sure if sis chipsets are always completely sane. Might want to try mucking with agp settings a little (force it down to agp 2x perhaps?) [02:08] having a strange problem here with my filesystem. whenever i open a file browser (e.g. program file -> save as..) it takes at least 45 seconds for the dialog to open [02:08] i tried to join /server irc.spotchad.org, spotchat tab opens up and it says spotchat (dead) and i cant /join #linuxmint [02:08] it only occurs when i use the file browser (of any program). any idea why this happens? it only recently started [02:08] Gnea: So i tried those guides you recommended me. There are no longer packages like that available. The only reason i'm trying to upgrade my video drivers is websites with a lot of graphic content load slow/sluggish and overall graphic performance seems sluggish. Any other suggestions? [02:08] Gnea: Maybe I will wait more to the problem would fixed [02:08] i dont have an excessive number of files in the folder or anything [02:08] spotchat === e is now known as Guest78599 [02:09] sis chipsets thats retro [02:09] i have wine but my game wont run [02:09] mugen what video card is this? === Gnea_ is now known as Gnea [02:10] voss: intel 915GM [02:10] i have wine but my game wont run [02:10] Gnea: Maybe I will wait more to the problem would fixed [02:10] Cora: sorry, internet dropped [02:10] what game [02:10] mabinogi [02:10] mugen how much memory? [02:10] Gnea: don't worry [02:11] Gnea: I think jaunty don't work well in my lap [02:11] http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=11251&iTestingId=22362 [02:11] qazavul: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=11251&iTestingId=22362 [02:11] voss: 1gb [02:11] anyone have the same issue with filebrowser dialog taking a very long time to open? [02:11] mugen do you have a slot on your motherboard for a pci-e card? [02:12] Gnea: I think is better if I wait more to find a way to solve the problem, until that I up grade to Jaunty [02:12] voss: i'm on a thinkpad T43 [02:12] Gnea: I think is better if I wait more to find a way to solve the problem, until that I don't up grade to Jaunty [02:12] wut do i do on the site [02:12] sounds like it has a bit of protection that gets confused qazavul when u try to install it. says it wont work [02:13] how do i associate x-chat in firefox? [02:13] Gnea: sorry remember my english is bad [02:13] am i able to make it work [02:13] mmm, I wonder why this wireless seems to be working so much better in the download direction than in the upload direction. [02:14] unless i linked to it wrong, it should tell you all the conditions and none of them say that you can get it running under wine at least within 8.04 heron and before [02:14] mzz: can't, i know for a fact the mobo's AGP slot is hardcloced 4x, i tryed a REALLY old 2x card, and it failed to even post [02:14] Gnea: Thanks for your help and patience, you're so nice [02:14] gartral: oh, fun. Yeah, the fact that agp slots usually but not always make it impossible to get that wrong is pretty awesome [02:15] salut [02:15] that looks like an interesting game. [02:15] Hrm. how do I boot into single user mode in jaunty? I tried editing the kernel line for grub and choosing single. [02:15] But I still have a screwed up screen and its frozen there. [02:15] I just want it to boot to a ocommand prompt. [02:15] um one thing that i wouldnt recommend but you could try is installing windows in the program virtualbox and seeing if that will accept it [02:16] does anyone know to assign applications to specific spaces on startup? in either compiz or xfce/xubuntu? [02:16] actually nevermind dont do that, i think the graphics might not work at all actually [02:16] schambers: dont think you can specify specific window managers for specific programs [02:16] excuse me could someone tell me how to get firefox to open x-chat? [02:16] mzz: you may find this helpful somehow http://gar.pastebin.com/f5d2bb036 [02:17] Any ideas? [02:17] limpc: i mean in compiz [02:17] limpc: im using compiz [02:17] r there any mmos that work on ubuntu [02:17] hello is there any way to restore my packages to the original state? I accidently added debian repos and it messed up my kernel to a newer version. And I don't know what else it messed up. [02:17] or online games [02:18] gart, spend $20 get a 5200 nvidia agp card on ebay [02:18] compiz doesnt use a wm. [02:18] it IS a wm. [02:18] i was mistaken [02:18] so is that possible with compiz? [02:18] qazavul: sorry i couldnt help you more and look at this list, i wouldnt recommend getting their live dvd but it has a list of games that you can dl and install for free. http://live.linux-gamers.net/?s=games [02:19] voss: i have a 6200 right now, im not downgrading [02:19] schambers: there might be a plugin that lets you do per-app (e.g. title name match) theming. i dont know of one though. [02:19] ty [02:19] in mint im pretty sure [02:19] i mean ubuntu [02:19] schambers: id guess itll use quite alot of memory if there is such a plugin. [02:19] gart so whats wrong with the 6200 [02:19] !ot [02:19] #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks! [02:20] gartral: really doubt I can help :( try hunting for nvidia driver options that might improve stability, especially anything agp-related [02:20] mzz | Dr_Willis how can i unmout it? [02:20] voss: nothing, really, just i get horrible "black bars" [02:20] syntax\: umount /path/to/mount/point [02:20] Chr|s: nobodys answering my question =/ theres too many people in here [02:20] mzz: syntax\: mount -o loop,ro /path/to/file /path/to/mount/point <-- how do i unmount this? [02:20] maybe you should get a $50 8400gs pci card [02:20] syntax\: see above [02:20] !patience | limpc [02:20] limpc: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines [02:20] looking for recommendation for an l2tp or pptp vpn server... whats easy to setup? [02:21] lol. triggerbot junkie [02:21] !lol limpc [02:21] Sorry, I don't know anything about lol limpc [02:21] limpc: if the hostname of your system does not resolve (is not in /etc/hosts) that can cause odd delays, but I don't know if this is one affected spot. [02:21] !lol | limpc [02:21] limpc: Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks. [02:21] drat, timing. [02:22] qazavul: does that help? their live dvd has given me some problems with not being able to get audio to work and wireless isint supported [02:22] Hrm. how do I boot into single user mode in jaunty? I tried editing the kernel line for grub and adding single, but it still shows a screwed up ubuntu loading screen and freezes there. [02:22] mzz: err0r@gr0und-zer0:/media/Files/ad/Active Direcotory/lab1$ sudo umount /media/Files/ad/Active\ Direcotory umount: /media/Files/ad/Active Direcotory: device is busy. (In some cases useful info about processes that use the device is found by lsof(8) or fuser(1)) [02:23] syntax\: cd out of there first [02:23] mzz: the drivers are pretty useless... and they take alot of stuff and make it unchangeable, like "fadeing" from one bg image to the new one... [02:23] ok thanks. [02:24] i tried to join /server irc.spotchat.org, spotchat tab opens up and it says spotchat (dead) and i cant /join #linuxmint [02:24] and all those agpgart activations were me... jaunty doesn't like it when i try to kickstart X or gdm from console... [02:25] gaming for free on linux is satisfyingf [02:26] just fyi [02:26] haha [02:26] hello im new to irc, could someone help me out with an issue? [02:26] Aldo_Bellotti: just ask mate. [02:27] ok so ive been using ubuntu for 8 months [02:27] if someone can help they will. [02:27] 8.10 [02:27] and i just insatalled a new login screen [02:27] and logged off and it wouldnt let me log back in [02:28] it basicly wont load the a login screen [02:28] is there a way i can boot in terminal and change the login screen through terminal? [02:28] and i forgot, switching off to a VT makes it so i can't switch BACK to VT7 where X is [02:28] <[zen]> Aldo_Bellotti: log in the text console === SetiAmon is now known as Seti-high === clueless is now known as clueless222 [02:29] ok thanks [02:29] Hello. [02:29] <[zen]> access it via say, ALT SHIT F4 , Aldo_Bellotti [02:29] [zen]: ok now what? [02:29] mzz: anyway to recover an X session without using alt-ctrl-F7? [02:30] does anybody know if I can set an alarm in my laptop, so it turns on from suspend at some time?? [02:30] hey this is random but noone can help me with my other questions, is it possible to go from to composite cable on my vcr to an lcd monitor [02:30] Hmm, I use scim to type in Japanese, but it seems to have spontaneously become entirely unusable. If I have it running and I switch to Japanese input (anthy), scim-bridge goes to 100% CPU, and any applications I try to interact with freeze. [02:30] <[zen]> you can login Aldo_Bellotti, and revert to your previous login screen ^^ what did you do to install it ? [02:31] with no tv tuner [02:31] system>admin>loginscreen [02:31] I was wondering if it is possible to create a LiveCD with custom packages on it. You help is much appreciated. [02:31] [zen]: i got it to work [02:31] thanks [02:31] I'm trying to connect to a machine via ftp using nautilus, I can't figure out how I'm supposed to set that up. Properties of the "FTP server on machine-name" don't indicate anywhere I can enter a username and password. I've even tried opening the "link" in gvim, not a single thing was present. [02:33] when i browse my files in place i cannot my see my windows partition. Is there anyway to add a shortcut for this? [02:33] when i browse in terminal i can see it but cannot access it === Seti-high is now known as SetiAmon [02:34] hello, i am having problems with my hd free space being reported inappropriately [02:35] hello how to update 9.04 packages? [02:35] fsck doesn't fix it and i don't get any errors and i can't find 500 or so Mb [02:35] and the disk is reporting to be full... [02:36] . /dev/sda1 3944244 3789512 0 100% / [02:36] kitty_: that's normal, some space is reversed for root [02:36] kitty_: that's unless du reports a very different "used" number from df [02:36] ok let me splain better then [02:37] err, reserved, not reversed. I can spell, I just cannot type... [02:37] hello how to update the packages of ubuntu9.04? sudo update packages is not working [02:37] i deleted my /var/cache/apt/archives because i ran out of disk space [02:37] jigp: sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade [02:37] and afterwards it never reported that space as free [02:37] this is on a thumb drive [02:38] kitty_: did you delete those files or send them to trash? [02:38] how do i reset the auto eth0 connection on my computer [02:38] kitty_: that'd happen if most of it was still in use. It'd also happen if you were already into the reserved space (used would drop, but available wouldn't go up until you got past the reserved-for-root bit) [02:38] rm * [02:38] anyone know how to make my windows partition show up in places? [02:38] kitty_: k [02:39] i'v rebooted several times, i've even mounted it readonly and ran fsck on it to no avail [02:39] and everytime i delete something new it never frees up space [02:39] kitty_: does du agree with df on how much of it is used? [02:39] anyone have any recommendations for video editing software for linux? [02:39] no clue what du reports [02:39] kitty_: try "du -shx /" (this'll take a while) [02:39] kitty final cut gimp [02:39] D: [02:39] booksbuggy just click on it and it will reset [02:40] kitty_: also, are you checking if used goes down or only if free goes up? [02:40] it is not connecting to anything [02:40] used is going down available stays at 0 [02:40] root@kitty-laptop:/home/kitty# du -shx / [02:40] du: cannot access `/home/kitty/.gvfs': Permission denied [02:40] 3.7G / [02:40] kitty_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [02:40] 5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~MUSIKGOAT|MAIN : sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade [02:40] i must be a fucking idiot. ive always used command line to shutdown - is there a damn shutdown button in any of the menus on Intrepid ? [02:40] [sudo] password for jigpf: [02:40] sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade [02:41] musikgoat|main : its not working.i know my pass [02:41] meder: should be in the "system" menu, iirc. Or was it on the right of the panel? I'm not in gnome... [02:41] mzz: not in System [02:41] that's the first thing I checked [02:41] meder: Click on your user name on the right [02:41] I wonder if I have to manually enable it [02:41] Oh [02:41] Oh.. right [02:41] how do i open a terminal window [02:41] meder: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [02:41] meder: an ubuntuism, this, iirc. [02:41] so 3789512 ~ 3.7G ? [02:42] Heh. ty [02:42] musikgoat|main : ah its working.caps hehehehe [02:42] kitty_: yep, that's close enough. Try "du -max / | sort -n|tail -n100", anything obviously taking lots of space that shouldn't? === aleksandarr is now known as Guest08738 [02:42] mzz : how to view adobe flash? [02:42] jigp: I don't, it's rarely important anyway. [02:42] how long could this process take? [02:43] (people asking me questions I have given no indication of being able to answer directly is a sure sign I'm spending too much time on this channel) [02:43] mzz : if i play an adobe site my browser hangup [02:43] kitty_: running a terminal as root can be risky [02:43] kitty_: at most roughly as long as the previous du command. [02:43] hey all! Anyone know how to stop rythmbox from searching for codecs it won't find? [02:43] mzz: yes, yes it does :-P [02:43] kitty_: oh, forgot to mention, you might have to run that "du" as root (you apparently are already) === Guest08738 is now known as aleksandarr [02:44] mzz: it looked like she/he was using the root account in the terminal [02:44] kitty_: did you su -i or some such? [02:44] sebsebseb: yeah, I just realised now that you mentioned it [02:45] did you sort the correct direction, it pooped out a bunch of 24's and such [02:45] can someone suggest "screen casting" software that works pretty well? [02:45] i'm not familiar with the du output [02:45] kitty_: hmm, sec [02:46] kitty_: it's not advised to log into the actsual root account and use it, but I assume you only gave yourself root in the terminal in the normal user account [02:46] kitty_: works for me... [02:46] kitty_: if for some reason my sort is backwards just use head instead of tail though :) [02:46] ok well the last line is 3694 / [02:46] kitty_: then it's working. [02:47] ok so what am i looking at exactly here? (cornfused) [02:47] kitty_: the number is in megabytes now, and the line next to it is the path taking up that much space. so 3694M for root (that's about 3.7G again) [02:47] kitty_: that's everything. You should see /usr, /var etc above that. If in doubt pastebin the output. [02:47] what does it mean when the terminal prints " ignorming unknown interface eth0=eth0? [02:47] hey mzz, got an fsck to run and I still have zero bytes [02:48] kitty_: you're looking for anything that's taking up lots of space but shouldn't, or taking up lots of space but can be removed safely. [02:48] bc: I'm guesing xvidcap is the way to go. [02:48] Fohn: output of "df -h" for the affected partition? [02:48] what does it mean when the terminal prints " ignorning unknown interface eth0=eth0"? [02:48] booksbuggy: when doing what? [02:48] floodbot: pastebin! [02:48] when i restart the networking device [02:48] booksbuggy: using what? [02:48] booksbuggy: also, preferably copy error messages exactly (is it really saying "ignorning"? :) [02:49] well all it prints are: [02:49] !pastebin | kitty [02:49] kitty: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) [02:49] * Reconfiguring network interfaces... [02:49] mzz: /dev/sda2 217G 214G 0 100% / [02:49] booksbuggy: what command do you actually run? Consider pastebinning what you're doing. [02:49] Does anyone know why ubuntu hasn't started writing code to take advantage of multiple cores [02:49] booksbuggy: eth0 might not exist [02:49] Fohn: like kitty_ you're confused by the filesystem reserving some space for root. [02:49] sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart [02:49] it keeps reserving everything i delete.... [02:50] I can no longer alt+tab in Ubuntu. What am I doing wrong? [02:50] wheelie207: that's really an issue in the individual programs and possibly the linux kernel, not ubuntu itself [02:50] Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on [02:50] /dev/sda1 3944244 3789540 0 100% / [02:50] Indeed I am. What does that mean? [02:50] is that like 180Mb that should be free that isn't? [02:51] Fohn: by default a small percentage of available space is reserved for root, both to prevent fragmentation by filling the partition completely and to prevent the system grinding to a halt because things like /var/log can no longer be written to. [02:51] I guess I should have ask it differently [02:51] more importantly, why did it start happening now and how do I reduce the space available? [02:51] Fohn: by default Ubuntu only gives a / and swap. /var/log /boot and all of it goes in / including /home [02:52] Fohn: if you did sepeate home well that would be your data and such, and everything else would be for the system in / [02:52] All thses multiple core cpu's and no one can write code to take advantage of it.. not even windows... hmmmmm [02:52] it just printed " * Reconfiguring network interfaces... and ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0" when i used the command sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart [02:52] well without the and [02:53] fohn what happened to you? [02:53] wheelie207: find out in ##linux maybe, since not distro specific [02:53] I booted up today and my HD says it has 0 bytes available [02:53] wheelie207: and your talking about hardware so ##hardware [02:53] same here but mine happened like 5 days ago [02:53] how large is your hd? [02:53] thanks I'll check that out too.. [02:54] i have realvnc 4 on my host comp, i need somethign taht'll work with krdc... any suggestions? (windows host) [02:54] wheelie207: ok no problem [02:54] sebsebseb : I don't think I ever had a separate home. [02:54] Fohn: well some of us do [02:54] kitty_: That's reassuring. :( [02:54] Fohn: altough not really needed [02:55] boriz: Windows as host eww [02:55] boriz: ##windows may be able to help [02:55] i'm working off a thumb drive, and i only have 4Gb so partitioning it separately for /home /usr and such isn't to my advantage [02:55] I moved a folder with some video files from my home partition to an ntfs partition in ubuntu, but now when I try to access the files in windows I get an error saying that the location is unavailable and it won't let me look in the folder. I've done this before without any problems and I don't think I did anything different this time, anyone know what could be going on? [02:55] Fohn: recommend you simply free up some space (sorry for vanishing, hardware problem took down the system I was typing on) [02:55] sebsebseb: hehe okay, not up to me, im just trying to connect to host, and i'm on kubuntu now [02:56] mzz: I can't free up space. I delete files but it has no effect. [02:56] mzz, fohn and i seem to be having the same problem [02:56] Need help! A friend told me to go into Nautilus to delete something because the folder I wanted to delete was owned by root. I managed to delete the folder, but ever since I cannot see stuff that used to be on my desktop, alt+tab does not work and right-clcik on the mouse button does not work. Please help! [02:56] Fohn: use "df -m" to get output in megabytes and check for used space going down, not just free space going up [02:56] where's root's trash :) [02:56] kitty_: yep, I'm aware of that. [02:56] how do i permanently delete stuff i moved to trash as root? :) [02:57] log back in as root and empty the trash === neonfloss is now known as zorph [02:57] wtl: what kitty said should do it. gksudo nautilus [02:58] hi [02:58] how do i make openoffice recognize .docx files? [02:58] * kitty_ pulls hair out [02:58] I cannot get gnome to work with Openbox [02:58] I found this, it's the same problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7177815 [02:58] mzz: My only question would be how come my root space has inflated so suddenly? [02:58] but the workaround does not work for me [02:58] kitty_: heh heh why? [02:58] hello [02:58] hello [02:58] is there a way to set the whole network manager and the text data files to default without internet connection? [02:58] How do I restart x in gnome?? [02:58] can someone please help me? [02:58] can someone please help me? [02:58] Fohn: I can't answer that. I can give you the same "sudo du -max /|sort -n|tail -n100" to get an overview of what's eating up space. [02:58] hello ap3ctr0 [02:58] Need help! A friend told me to go into Nautilus to delete something because the folder I wanted to delete was owned by root. I managed to delete the folder, but ever since I cannot see stuff that used to be on my desktop, alt+tab does not work and right-clcik on the mouse button does not work. Please help! [02:58] !repeat [02:58] Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience [02:59] sebsebseb and kitty, i deleted files with gksu nautilus but it just moved 'em to trash. where's the exact location of trash? the trash bookmark on nautilus cant be accessed as root [02:59] Sp3ctro just ask a question and maybe someone will ansewr it. [02:59] answer* [02:59] !helpme [02:59] I can delete files all i want and nothing gives me free space [02:59] Avoid your questions being followed by a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !patience [02:59] For some reason apache/php isn't working [02:59] kitty_: try "df -m" to get output in megabytes and look for used space going down, not free space going up [02:59] freeinput, I think ctrl + alt + Backspace kills x [03:00] it does mzz [03:00] wtl: trash:/// [03:00] If I try going to localhost in my browser it just shows me the contents of / and php files located on my comp aren't parsed [03:00] i'm running out of stuff to delete that i don't "need" to keep around [03:00] Steven it seems you screwed it up [03:00] kitty_: the free output in df will stay at 0 until the actual free space exceeds the reserved space I mentioned earlier. This is normal. Just keep deleting stuff. [03:00] is there a way to set the whole network manager and the text data files to default without internet connection? [03:00] How? [03:00] how do i change the reserved space? [03:00] Either I'm just dumb or the jaunty partitioner is an absolute failure of software. Anyone have some patience? I've got two partitions, one with XP, one that I want to install ubuntu to, preferably in ext4. I can't figure out this partioner. [03:00] Heh. Not sure where to ask this. Here it goes: Anyone know how to query a server for a file size? (Any programming language) [03:00] is there a way to create a symlink to another directory but NOT have it create a directory? Like I need photos from /home/eseven73/Pictures to go to /var/www/images/ but NOT /var/www/images/SYMLINK_DIRECTORY/ [03:01] Well.. I am using a ZTE MF363 modem and ubuntu 9.04 does not recongnize it, my old 8.10 use to do it? how do i do in order to fix this? [03:01] NvidiaUser: define "a server" [03:01] Typh: still some issues with Ext4 in the release notes, and yes you need to make your own Ext4 partition in partition editor [03:01] Steven: what was the path of the folder you deleted [03:01] no idea [03:01] !notes | Typh [03:01] ¬¬ [03:01] Typh: Ubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope) release notes can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyJackalope/ReleaseNotes [03:01] this only started happening after my last system update and i installed a new kernel version [03:01] It was on my Desktop [03:01] vim is really unresponsive under Ubuntu... Anyone knows why? For example, scrolling large amounts of lines don't update the screen buffer, and lines get messy.. [03:01] It was a folder on my normal desktop owned by root [03:02] so did they change the amt of space root tries to reserve ? and is there a way to change it back? [03:02] mzz like any webserver where you can download files from. Umm like download.com when you want to know the file size from a console window [03:02] A friend told me to go into nautilus so I could delete it [03:02] what do I need to press to make one of those strange vertical lines. Before anyone says so, I do not mean 1 or l or slash. [03:02] mss I'm downloading files from a console window later [03:02] | [03:02] Steven: I do the partitions in partition editor first, then format and tell it what to use the partitions for, in manual install [03:02] shift + back slash [03:02] Fohn, shift and your backslash [03:02] thanks [03:02] how do i install the basic nvidia drivers that came with my ubuntu jaunty installation [03:02] I tried using the nvidia drivers from nvidia.com but im having serious graphical errors [03:02] hderms: they don't come with it, you have to install them yes [03:02] NvidiaUser: it depends. I think http can do this (although not necessarily for every file on every server) but for examples like your download.com you may have to go through some redirects to get at the download, and if those aren't the simple http kind following them may be annoying. [03:03] hderms: system > administaration > hardware drivers [03:03] sebsebseb tried that [03:03] it didnt work [03:03] poseidon: /etc/init.d/XXX start [03:03] NvidiaUser: I don't know the exact http request to make offhand (it might've been HEAD) [03:03] a program has SSE2 dependency, but my processor doesnt have sse2 support - any way I can still run it? [03:03] Quick question: looking at my HTOP or TOP, why does Firefox or other apps run multiple process id's ? [03:03] mzz thanks I'll look into Perl functions for Http web transfers. oh and Download.com was an example. [03:03] DIL, I did that [03:03] hderms: oh from nivida.com [03:03] Steven: it's hard to get a solution to your problem if we do not know what you deleted [03:03] jm2k: they might be one process with many threads [03:03] is there a way to set the whole network manager and the text data files to default without internet connection? [03:03] hderms: if you do that, you can get problems yeah [03:03] zorph: I suspect not, but having a hard sse2 dep isn't that common [03:03] sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart [03:03] yeah and under hardware drivers nothing appears anymore [03:04] what's the name of the image viewer in ubuntu? i want to open it up from the command line. [03:04] hderms: yeah under hardware drivers would be the one from repo, if there was something available [03:04] zorph: and I doubt it'd run acceptably even if you could run it [03:04] poseidon: ok [03:04] pyrak: it might be eog [03:04] hderms: only install directly from nividia.com as a last resort, because you can get problems [03:04] ok mzz [03:04] Steven: maybe you should got your friend to help you ;) and kick his ass too :P [03:04] OK, I'll keep the ext4 issues in mind, but regardless is it an option from this partitioner or no? And how do I use the entire partition for Ubuntu? I tried "side by side" and it gave me a partition just big enough. "Specify manually" seems awkward and is leaving 1.5 GB in between the partitions. [03:04] or, alternately, is there a command to open a file with the "default program" for that typeof file? [03:04] lstarnes: i thought that might be it. [03:04] get* === jamie is now known as Guest11125 [03:04] mzz, im not 100% sure about my processor not supporting sse2 though, how can I check? [03:04] ok seriously though i can't use webbrowser to goto the forums and see if there is a solution === Guest11125 is now known as jumentous === rachel is now known as Guest1854 [03:04] zorph: cat /proc/cpuinfo, look in "flags" [03:04] i'm lucky that this irc client even works [03:05] Is there a text editor that preserves the newlines chars of files? I am working with DOS files and I want to avoid using unix2dos with gedit. [03:05] so is there someone that wants to hold my hand before i have to give up and reformat? [03:05] kitty_: humm [03:05] rCX: doesn't gedit do that already? [03:05] kitty_: Do you perchance have a system backup program? [03:05] kitty_: what has happended exactly, since I haven't been following all of your issue [03:05] kitty_: did you manage to pastebin that du -max / | sort -n | tail -n100? [03:05] thanks [03:05] I CAN NOT USE WEB BROWSER [03:05] kitty_: sounds like you been trying to delete things that you shoudn't have really [03:05] mzz: I saw some other threads but you have to use unix2dos. It's not automatic... [03:05] so yeah i pastebin'd it [03:06] hi, i'm trying to setup a touchscreen using evdev, i've configured hal so that x sees it and when i do a xinput list i see the touch as an extension pointer and using evtest on the net i can confirm that there are events coming through /dev/input/eventX - what am i missing, why isn't anything happening [03:06] lstarnes, thanks [03:06] with my testiclites [03:06] Can anyone tell me how to open a port on Ubuntu (the port is forwarded correctly on the router) [03:06] !caps | kitty_ [03:06] kitty_: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too. [03:06] kitty_: does "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" still work (it's pretty small, it'll hopefully fit) [03:06] is there a way to create a symlink to another directory but NOT have it create a directory? Like I need photos from /home/eseven73/Pictures to go to /var/www/images/ but NOT /var/www/images/SYMLINK_DIRECTORY/ [03:06] kitty_: if Firefox has gone wrong, all you need to do is delete or move it's profile. from home folder [03:06] mzz: The problem is we have absolutely no room. [03:06] kitty_: the hidden .mozilla folder [03:06] rCX: I know emacs does this just fine as long as it's either an existing file or I remember to tell it to write as dos [03:06] ldiamond: I think no ports are blocked by default. You will just need to start a program that listens on a port to open it [03:06] kitty_: then when you start Firefox again, you have a new profile [03:06] rCX: learning emacs for this may be overkill though. Weird gedit doesn't get it right. [03:06] lstarnes, doesnt seem to work. [03:07] Fohn: apt-get runs as root. It'll *probably* still work [03:07] mzz, so no sse2 in flags, tha tmeans no support? [03:07] However I believe that the problem might have been that my system was backing up an taking up tons of space. [03:07] zorph: correct [03:07] sebsebseb everytime i start firefox it says "thanks for updating" cause it can't save the file that says "i've already seen this" cause the hd is reporting itself as full [03:07] mzz: Ah, now I see. [03:07] lstarnes, I did however enable ufw (I then disabled it and now its marked as inactive) [03:07] kitty_: then just "sudo du -max / | sort -n | tail -n100 | pastebinit" [03:07] where can i find ubuntu graphics card binary repos [03:07] sebsebseb, i cant access trash:/// with nautilus as root [03:07] ldiamond: there might be a rule in iptables doing it. Check sudo iptables --list [03:07] !ln [03:07] The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal [03:08] kitty: you can start a new profile in Firefox with "firefox -ProfileManager" and debug after why FireFox hangs or wont work sometimes. [03:08] how can I check if a program needs sse2 support? [03:08] wtl: humm [03:08] jm2k: I'm pretty sure that'll just fail too, because the partition's full [03:08] jm2k: no room to add that profile [03:08] zorph: how's it failing if you just try to run it? [03:08] when i boot in my install it says there isn't an init= line, what do i do? [03:08] and it busyboxes me [03:08] zorph: I'd expect either an obvious error message (program is nice and checks) or it crashing with SIGILL (program doesn't bother to check) === ubuntu is now known as racecar56 [03:08] mzz: missed that, thx for correction. [03:08] sebsebseb, Found it! It's under /home/.Trash-0! :D [03:08] illegal instruction [03:08] lstarnes, nothing in the IPtables [03:09] http://pastebin.com/f453cfeff [03:09] kitty_: well yeah find out if it is full, there are graphical programs for that, but mzz seems to be suggesting a command line way [03:09] zorph: that might be missing sse2 support, or it might be some kind of corruption. [03:09] wtl: ah of course why didn't I think of that [03:09] zorph: what kind of program is this? === MrObvious2 is now known as MrObvious [03:09] mzz: http://pastebin.com/f453cfeff [03:09] wtl: probably would of after a little while [03:09] * phoenixz is away: Gone away for now [03:09] * phoenixz is away: Gone away for now [03:09] My firefox still runs, my problem is that for some reason it does not display bookmarks or allow me to click buttons. Most likely related to my HD fullness [03:09] mzz, sonic visualiser [03:09] phoenixz: please turn that off [03:09] !away > phoenixz (phoenixz, see the private message from ubottu) [03:10] sebsebseb, it's unconventional. when i looked at it under /home/ , i was expecting to see a .local. hehe [03:10] sebsebseb: feel free to add gui alternatives to my commandline suggestions, I'm just more comfortable on the commandline myself, which leaks into my suggestions [03:10] wtl: hidden folders yeah hidden .folders [03:10] kitty_: 160m in /lib/restricted-modules seems a bit excessive [03:10] mzz: command line is usauly better yeah, but there are also some pretty nice graphical apps out there and such [03:10] can someone give me a friendly way to kill old installed kernels and modules? [03:11] I deleted a program called Kmuddy [03:11] I installed Kmuddy to the desktop [03:11] sebsebseb: I never really got around to liking baobab for some reason. [03:11] mzz: what's baobab? [03:11] kitty_: you have three old kernels and corresponding modules installed. Removing those will help. [03:11] mzz if I'm reading this right the HEAD Request will show content lengths of remote files. ;) [03:11] mzz: Gah, I just did that like a week ago, but the technique totally escapes me... [03:11] sebsebseb: gnome diskspace usage visualization thingy [03:11] sebsebseb, .local because the non-root trash is under ~/.local :D [03:11] bow chicka wow wow [03:11] He had me do alt+f2, "gksu nautilus" and I moved Kmuddy folder from the desktop through cutting it and pasting it into the root desktop in the file system and then moved it to trash from there. That is all I did [03:12] how do i install ubuntu 9.04 over the previous version? [03:12] need help guys [03:12] mzz: that didn't say about space that's the other command or even pydf if it's installed [03:12] !diskfree [03:12] Graphical representations of where your disk-space is being used are: baobab (GNOME), filelight / kinfocenter (Kubuntu). On the terminal: df -h -T [03:12] !find diskfree [03:12] Found: gtkdiskfree [03:12] TViYH just ask and maybe someone can help you. [03:12] i already have ubuntu on a partition, so if i install ubuntu studio, can i somehow have it write on top of the current ubuntu? [03:12] what is /etc/postfix/main.cg? [03:12] mzz: You were totally right! I now have free space after killing some old backups [03:12] * phoenixz is back. [03:12] mzz: I would use kdiskfree or gtkdiskfree [03:12] what is /etc/postfix/main.cf? [03:12] !find kdiskfree [03:12] Found: gtkdiskfree [03:12] mmm [03:13] how do i install ubuntu 9.04 over the previous version? [03:13] NvidiaUser, i already have ubuntu on a partition, so if i install ubuntu studio, can i somehow have it write on top of the current ubuntu? [03:13] ok now i finally have 77k free [03:13] kitty_: sudo apt-get install gtkdiskfree [03:13] kitty_: nice little graphical program, that will show you how much space is being used and not being used [03:13] ... is there a way to reduce the ammount of reserved space for root? [03:13] TViYH^ Sorry I have no idea what Ubuntu Studio is :O ;) [03:13] kitty_: well if you have space to install it hum [03:13] kitty_: notice those /lib/modules/* dirs. You should only need the latest one of those, and the same for the matching stuff in /lib/restricted-modules and /boot. I just don't know the right aptitude command to get rid of the three old ones. [03:13] what is /etc/postfix/main.cf? [03:14] i already cleaned boot out, i'm gonna go for the modules now [03:14] NvidiaUser, it's a distro of linux, it's basically a graphics edition of ubuntu [03:14] kitty_: yes, but I strongly recommend you don't use it because the filesystem will get unhappy (fragmented) if it's very close to full. [03:14] kitty_: see "man tune2fs" if you're desperate. [03:14] mzz: LjL: Sorry [03:14] kitty_: maybe you should just clean install :) [03:14] phoenixz: no problem, as long as you turned it off :) [03:14] Just installed konversation, seems like it has some weird basic settings, I didnt see it till now [03:14] mzz: Turning it off now! :) [03:14] booksbuggy: it's the configuration file for postfix [03:14] sorrryyyyyyy! [03:15] phoenixz: I used Konversation for ages, nice app [03:15] phoenixz: I am looking forward to a KDE4 version [03:15] TViYH^ You could always make another partition and install it there and have Ubuntu and the Ubuntu Media edition. But if you select the partition that Ubuntu is on then yes you will write over it and delete everything on that partition. [03:15] ok thats helpful, is there a way to get tune2fs to report the current configuration ? [03:15] sebsebseb: well, there is quassel for KDE4.. the idea is like koknversation, its just that it does NOT work... that makes it a bit crap.. [03:15] phoenixz: does not work what? [03:15] NvidiaUser, kk, thanks mate [03:16] NvidiaUser, also, one more question [03:16] phoenixz: and quassel I had that open briefuly, and was like no thanks, and back to Konversation [03:16] lstarnes: everytime when i try to use "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" i get a fatal error saying that /etc/postfix/main.cf is not found [03:16] NvidiaUser, i'm going to overwrite this ubuntu partition, so how can i be able to access my vista partition from it? [03:16] NvidiaUser, have a tut? [03:16] booksbuggy: you could try uninstalling or reinstalling postfix [03:16] #synce [03:16] !info postfix [03:16] lstarnes: i don' t have internet connection [03:17] postfix (source: postfix): High-performance mail transport agent. In component main, is optional. Version 2.5.5-1.1 (jaunty), package size 1190 kB, installed size 2936 kB [03:17] ah, -l /dev/sda1 (/me stabs*) [03:17] Anyone know why a program running on Wine can't listen on a port (62415 here) [03:17] NvidiaUser, ^ [03:17] booksbuggy: postfix is for email. are you evenneeding it? [03:17] kitty_: you might need dumpe2fs for that, but again I strongly recommend you just free up some space (just killing those old kernels may suffice) [03:17] ldiamond: try asking in #winehq ? [03:17] kitty_: you also seem to have bits of both kde and gnome installed, some cleanup in that area may help too [03:17] sebsebseb: If you use it for like a little while its okay.. The problems start with the bugs.. Joining a channel takes like 2-5 minutes, don't ask me why.. [03:17] that freed up about 360Mb for now, but it's reserving like 400 [03:17] sebsebseb: joining also puts your CPU usage in 99% [03:17] phoenixz: no not at all [03:18] sebsebseb: and many times you are in a channel and you cant write.. etc etc etc... [03:18] Dr_Willis: /etc/postfix/main.cf is what the command sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart keep on trying to open [03:18] phoenixz: I don't have any of those problems :) [03:18] i installed bits of kde cause it was required for some of my "educational" applications, so only what was needed was installed [03:18] NvidiaUser, nevermind, i'll just find a tut myself.. [03:18] later guys [03:18] phoenixz: the only problem app I have is Ubuntu's version of Firefox, when it uses a lot of CPU and makes my computer barely useable [03:18] booksbuggy: that command restarts all the services..if you never bothere4d to configure postfix.. then postfix is giving you that warning.. it shouldent affect networking much if at all. [03:18] Block count: 993920 [03:18] Reserved block count: 49696 [03:18] * kitty_ stabs [03:18] Dr_Willis: well i don 't know how to fix the internet connection on my linux machine [03:19] kitty_: ok, just checking. Still really weird if this happened suddenly, it's not like the amount of reserved space changes [03:19] this had to have changed with the latest round of kernel updates from 23 to 24 [03:19] booksbuggy: if you really want to find a main.cf the command 'locate main.cf' finds 3 example ones in /usr/share/postfix you could copy one over.. or just disable the postfix service if you are not using it. [03:19] how do i install the last version of open office oh ubuntu 8.10? [03:19] booksbuggy: i doubt if postfix is causing any issues to the rest of the connection. [03:19] Dr_Willis: how do i disable postfix? [03:19] phoenixz: joining a channel is instant with Konversation for me :) [03:19] kitty_: oh, how often do you use /usr/share/gnome/help/ ? :) [03:19] sebsebseb: yeah, got firefox issues as well, but LOTS worse.. the high CPU rate is because I have like 70 pages open :D the less nice issues I have deal with fonts, they slowly get messed up.. after about one hour, I cant read any text anymore, its one garbage [03:19] sebsebseb: here same, as it should be [03:20] lol, not too often, i prefer man pages myself, [03:20] phoenixz: yep a lot of tabs open and it can go bad [03:20] kitty_: check /var/cache/ for any remaining obvious cruft, and please rerun sudo du -max /|sort -n|tail -n100|pastebinit now that you've killed those stray kernel bits [03:20] phoenixz: however it's also not the version directly from Mozilla, but similar [03:20] booksbuggy: you could remove it with 'sudo apt-get remove postfix' if you are not needing it.. and nothing else depends on it. but some other services may 'depend' on it. even if its not being used. [03:20] Dr_Willis: oh [03:20] phoenixz: installing from the tar.gz might help. or even getting whatever is the current development version of Firefox 3.5 installed [03:21] hi is there a spanish ubuntu chanell, please? [03:21] !es | burbuja [03:21] burbuja: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es. [03:21] thanks a lot [03:21] booksbuggy: theres some command to disable services from the runlevels - but i dont rember it.. [03:21] Dr_Willis: even in 8.10? [03:21] phoenixz: here same, as it should be? what was that a reply to [03:21] sebsebseb: FF is already at 3.5? geez... Im stuck at 3.0 I think.. [03:21] phoenixz: no Firefox 3.5 is not out yet [03:21] booksbuggy: depends on what the box is doing.. if you need postfix or not. [03:21] TViYH^ I'm back. If you select the Ubuntu Partition and not the windows one you'll be fine. And then you'll need to reinstall Grub and have it show Windows 7 on the bootloader screen. [03:21] phoenixz: 3.5 is in beta [03:22] sebsebseb: joinging a channel is instantly, as it should be [03:22] phoenixz: ,but even development versions of Firefox in my experience, have been pretty stable [03:22] Dr_Willis: oh [03:22] phoenixz: altough so far only ran those on Windows [03:22] phoenixz: (and 3.1 up to 3.4 were skipped, because who needs sane version numbers anyway) [03:22] they should have better gnome and KDE integration in firefox, by the way.. AND the every page in a separate process too, would be very very nice! [03:22] hey I said to my friend that 30GB are not enough for xp an ubuntu, is it right? [03:23] mzz: yeah.. firefox is very creative! with version numbers.. Next firefox will be 7.. then the next one after that 5... [03:23] and 300MB RAM [03:23] phoenixz: doing one page per process is hard because the underlying ui code and all extensions (which are mostly equivalent really) see one dom tree per window, with the pages pretty much part of that. [03:23] burbuja: 30gb is enough [03:23] burbuja: 30GB is a lot for Ubuntu [03:23] burbuja: you can have a useable ubuntu sustem on 10gb hd.. [03:23] burbuja: well.. could be.. 10GB linux, 20 windows.. the 20 windows you then mount in ubuntu [03:23] burbuja: that way, in ubuntu you can access the entire 30GB [03:23] no-remote -ProfileManager %u" and only allow flash on one profile :) [03:23] given how cheap HD's are... and what i do.. i can fill up 30gb.. real fast. [03:24] phoenixz: so if you do one process per page (page per process, huh, I must be tired :P) you either get lots of inter-process communication (which you'd have to get fast and deadlock-free) or massive api breakage affecting many extensions [03:24] mzz: speaking of sane version numbers... ubuntu... [03:24] burbuja: 30GB is loads for Ubuntu, unless you got home inside / and then start filling it up with massive files or something [03:24] raylu: the Date of release as a version # isent logical enough? :) [03:24] raylu: heh, at least there's a pattern to those [03:25] phoenixz: I know that it is possible but it is a few .... I would say [03:25] i'm also reminded of winamp combining features from 2 and 3 to make winamp 5. [03:25] burbuja: the swap space, 12GB or so / and big seperate home, that would be a good set up [03:25] mzz: they ARE actually working on that already, read it somewhere but dunno the link anymore [03:25] and 300MB RAM? [03:25] raylu: (I guess we're supposed to read "3.5" as "halfway from 3 to 4", but at the same time you get 3.0.9, 3.0.10, etc, so huh) [03:25] burbuja: its a few wha? [03:25] how can i purge all my nvidia files [03:25] and xorg configurations [03:25] how do you get '300' mb of ram? :) thats an odd # [03:25] phoenixz: want the link? I should have it in my history [03:25] burbuja: 1GB swap in your case since 300MB RAM [03:25] burbuja: 300MB is not much but should be workable [03:25] phoenixz: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Content_Processes [03:25] mzz: uuww... don't remember.. I read about it like 1,5-2 weeks ago [03:26] well at least he doesn 't only have 256 [03:26] well the problem is my friend is mexican [03:26] he will need spanish support [03:26] burbuja: me too.. sort of.. :) [03:26] !es | burbuja [03:26] burbuja: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es. [03:26] :D [03:26] !es | burbuja [03:26] yes yes [03:26] wow! remove and re-install restricted extras and the flash plugin and it seems to work again [03:26] ok [03:26] Dr_Willis: damn you're fast! [03:26] phoenixz: :) [03:26] phoenixz: I have 320 GB [03:26] so 30are a few [03:26] phoenixz: No Hablo! [03:27] Dr_Willis: no more coffee for you [03:27] phoenixz: :( ill just go drink my ovatine and go to sleep then. :) [03:27] burbuja: 320GB.. I suppose you're talking about your harddrive.. if youre talking RAM I want to be your boyfriend.. :D [03:27] Night all.. [03:27] sure sda2 [03:27] Dr_Willis always leave whenever I join [03:28] burbuja: in any case, mounting NTFS really isnt a big deal anymore [03:28] sda [03:28] burbuja: 30GB is more more more than enough for both winXP and ubuntu [03:28] phoenixz: I installed my linux on master drive :( [03:28] mzz : http://pastebin.com/f66e051c2 i'm gonna go for the headers next [03:28] muy bien phoenixz [03:28] gracias [03:29] burbuja: first install XP, let it have 20GB for fun.. then you install ubuntu, let it have the other 10GB, it will install a boot menu and you can choose during startup which of the 2 you want to use [03:29] burbuja: 300MB also should be enough for ubuntu.. its not a lot but it will work [03:29] how can i purge all my nvidia files [03:29] and xorg configurations [03:29] kitty_: yeah, kill three out of four /usr/src/linux-headers-* trees [03:29] so that i have a clean X [03:29] is there a good xorg configure tool? [03:30] hderms: the xorg config is in /etc/X11/ [03:30] where can i download a dock? [03:30] phoenixz: 300mb, I thought 4gb was ~min [03:30] phoenixz: and swap? [03:30] is there a way to create a symlink to another directory but NOT have it create a directory? Like I need photos from /home/eseven73/Pictures to go to /var/www/images/ but NOT /var/www/images/SYMLINK_DIRECTORY/ [03:30] phoenixz: i know ive deleted it [03:30] but if i keep installing nvidia drivers [03:30] they will not wrok [03:30] work [03:30] and i'd like to have hardware acceleration [03:30] burbuja: Put it on a partition of 500MB, should be enough [03:30] whatever ubuntu defaulted to seemed to work [03:30] !enter | hderms [03:30] hderms: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation! [03:30] k, thanks mzz [03:31] you've been of much helps [03:31] hderms: check for restricted hardware drivers.. AFAIK, NVIDIA has 2 different drivers, the open source one and hte resttricted closed one [03:31] kitty_: I wonder how much of /var/cache/apt can be safely removed too [03:31] Does anybody have a guide to setting up windows 7 dual boot with 9.04? I've tried useing the beta of easyBCD with no luck. Is there a way to configure gnome or lilo or anything? [03:32] burbuja: during installation of ubuntu, if you choose auto partitioning, ubuntu already should partition it correctly [03:32] kitty_: oh, and 30M in /root seems a bit high [03:32] It doesnt detect Win7 for whatever reason. [03:32] geparted? [03:32] !gparted [03:32] gparted is a !GTK/!Gnome !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php [03:32] kitty_: wait what, /root/.wine? Please don't do that [03:32] ty5479: oh wonder... windows 7 does not let it self be installed parrallel to something else? really? [03:32] phoenixz: he has xp now [03:32] I mean he would like to resize it [03:32] withou reinstalling [03:32] burbuja: no problem.. you dont need gparted [03:32] anyone know of a link to get aircrack and etc. working to crack wep's on Jaunty? [03:33] burbuja: just download and use the live CD [03:33] yes, this is what I told him [03:33] i accidently did a wine cmd from root shell [03:33] treyh: aww, don't crack those poor weps, it happens to them so often already... also, !piracy may apply here [03:33] * phoenixz mumbles something to treyh about legal stuff.. === ivantis is now known as EvanCarrol [03:33] ok, he runs ths live CD and then? [03:33] and i have a bootable grub iso builder in my /root folder === EvanCarrol is now known as EvanCarrol1 [03:33] which is the 30Mb [03:33] mzz: it's for security testing, not actual hacking lol [03:33] where has he to start the installation? [03:33] kitty_: nope, 24M out of the 30M is /root/.wine :) [03:33] i enjoy not being in prison lol [03:33] ok well anyways thanks mzz [03:34] maybe i deleted it in my attempt to free space ! ;P === EvanCarrol1 is now known as ivantis [03:34] burbuja: you can then in the installer say howmuch you want for ubuntu.. The installer will automatically resize windowsXP to a "better" size, so that there is space for ubuntu to install itself.. [03:34] thanks again [03:34] * kitty_ waves [03:34] np [03:34] and defragmentation? [03:34] burbuja: just make sure that, obviously, there is 10GB free in windows XP, if you want 10GB for ubuntu, since the installer, obviously again, won't delete stuff... :) [03:34] of xp? [03:35] sorry I did not used ubuntu [03:35] burbuja: not needed, the isntaller will nicely move everything (practically, defrag it automatically for you) [03:35] :O === gustavo is now known as gubuntero [03:35] waw very nice [03:35] burbuja: just use the live cd.. thats all you need, everything will go automatically from there [03:35] may be I will change to ubuntu [03:35] :( [03:35] hey guys i have a ? about installing ubuntu [03:36] burbuja: even the boot menu will be automatically.. after installation, you reboot and you can choose: windows or ubuntu [03:36] i have a 30 gb partation how should i split it [03:36] * phoenixz whispers something about kubuntu, KDE is cool... [03:36] phoenixz burbuja: I would actually recommend closer to 20-30GB in an xp partition, if it's going to be used regularly... (from personal experience) [03:36] burbuja: What you see above [03:37] arand: burbuja: isnt that what I said? 10GB for ubuntu, 20 for XP... if you want to resize later, you can do that using gparted [03:37] ok :) [03:37] ok i have a 30 gb partation i want to know how much the swap should be, as the ext3 [03:37] where could i find log information relating to my window decorator starting up / crashing [03:37] arand: burbuja: gparted is like.. using a club for brain surgery, but it works.. I'd prefer LVM but that is still not standard supported in the live CD :( [03:37] yankefish: how much you got from ram? [03:37] 4 gb ram [03:37] yankefish: howmuch ram? [03:37] phoenixz: oh, I thogh you said something about 10gb, nvm === FlakMonkey is now known as Asymmetry [03:38] yankefish: 4GB swap should do it [03:38] phoenixz: I am now on debian sidux :( [03:38] I use apt [03:38] yankefish: I would use half of the memory [03:38] !pm | yankefish [03:38] yankefish: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first. [03:38] and I install with dpkg [03:38] np so how big should my swap file be and is it a primary or logical [03:39] I have ubuntu 9.04 and a system with 3 sata hard drives, if i connect any 2 hard drives it works fine, but if i connect all 3 it fails to boot with an raid45 - unknown target type error, and it drops to EasyBox - any ideas? [03:39] burbuja: no, you install using a graphic utility or if you want to do command line, you use apt-get which downloads and installs everything automatically from a repository [03:39] yankefish: 4GB should so it [03:39] it that primary or logical [03:39] yankefish: anything more than 4GB takes the use out of swap.. more then 4GB swap is bad idea :) [03:39] how cn i place link of a text that i would like to ask that is long [03:39] yankefish: does not matter.. [03:39] yankefish: if you can, try using LVM, makes it MUCH easier to resize later [03:39] yankefish: general guideline is swap ~ double ram size, you'll need at least equal or more than ram if you plan on using hibernation, and yet more if you know that you use applications that could eat memory... [03:40] yes I love graphics installer [03:40] arand: hibernate does not copy to swap, does it? [03:40] phoenixz: I have now separated /home [03:40] arand: and more than 4GB swap really is not a good idea [03:40] how can I clean it before installing ubuntu? [03:40] burbuja: excuseme? how? [03:41] on the other hand having a system that is actively using a lot of swap is considered a bad thing. [03:41] now i have 30 gigs free how do i install ubuntu now [03:41] my home is on sda2 [03:41] burbuja: you have linux installed already, but a different distrubution or somehting? [03:41] yes [03:41] phoenixz: it does and you need swap > ram for hibernation to work... [03:41] different distro [03:41] with kde 4.2 [03:41] arand: burbuja: cfedde: imagine having a system that is swapping 4GB... :S === Adam is now known as Stargazer [03:41] phoenixz: hey, do you think it is a bad thing to have /, /home and swap at a extended partition? or does not really matter either if they are a primary or extended? [03:41] phoenixz: been there. done that. [03:42] sorry my first questions ware for my friend [03:42] these are for me [03:42] phoenixz: extended partitions* [03:42] I have 320GB HDD [03:42] ShexNivis: does not really matter.. but for practicals sake, I'd recommend you to take a look at LVM [03:42] nah new install [03:42] 40GB system [03:42] One could use swapfile, but that won't work with hibernation (something that's planned to work in the future..) [03:42] after i create the swap file what is next [03:42] phoenixz: got any good reference link about LVM? [03:42] Hey guys, i'm trying to use [ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605 ] but i'm using Vista, not XP (it sucks, believe me). I'm on step 2 and i cannot find 'LAN connections.' any ideas? [03:42] Ok, loading a page in Firefox crashes the system, any suggestions on how to find out why? [03:43] yankefish: I just finished installing kubuntu using LVM.. all my partitions can now easily be resized.. the install is a little tricky but there is a good tutorial on the subject [03:44] Phoenixz i have already booted the live cd, created a 4 gb swap file now what do i do [03:44] yankefish: burbuja: ShexNivis: http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-install-ubuntu-over-lvm-filesystem just remember to ALSO do a vgchange -a y at the end of that tutorial! [03:44] CoJaBo-Aztec, take a look at error console [03:44] thanks [03:44] yankefish: AFAIK, the ubuntu installer auto partitioning should be able to specify that all for you, no? [03:44] can someone tell me how to view all of my shared folders in ubuntu? [03:44] phoenixz: tnxs buddy [03:44] I need to unshare them [03:44] Hey guys, i'm trying to use [ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605 ] but i'm using Vista, not XP (it sucks, believe me). I'm on step 2 and i cannot find 'LAN connections.' any ideas? [03:45] it keeps saying to make a root file [03:45] xy|ox: How? [03:45] yankefish: are you using advanced installer? [03:46] ok guys how many partations do i need to install ubuntu [03:46] is jaunty more secure than intrepid or hardy? [03:46] ShexNivis: the lvm tutorial is a bit tricky, won't recomend it to newbies, but if you think you can do it, I really do recommend it! [03:46] Stargazer: go into the control panel and switch to classic control panel. There you will find network connections [03:46] Arand im using ubuntu live cd of main website [03:46] CoJaBo-Aztec, tools - error console [03:46] phoenixz: wont follow it just gonna read and see what i can get from it : ) [03:46] xy|ox: Once the system crashes, I can't do anything. [03:46] ShexNivis: you do know LVM? [03:46] i need to know how to install, i have a 30 gb free how can i install ubuntu on it [03:47] i can't get my gnome panels to re-appear [03:47] Xpistos, i'm there but i see no 'LAN connections' options. [03:47] phoenixz: no hahaha : ) [03:47] Hi Guys. Hope you don't mind my joining your conversation. I am using Ubuntu 9-4 and having difficulty connecting a wireless printer. Anyone like to chat? [03:47] after u create a swap file what is the next step [03:48] ShexNivis: basically, its a layer in between your partitions and your operating system.. lets you pool all partitions together to one large volume, and from ther you can create and modify any logical volume the wya you want.. the only thing better then LVM is ZFS which, unfortunately will never come to linux Im affraid.. [03:48] not outside FUSE anyway [03:48] yankefish: you normally need the main ubuntu partition with mountpoin root "/" then a swap, and you might want a separate partition with home "/home" which would simplify migration when reinstalling ubuntu, [03:48] aye how about hygien in linux,i mean what is the equivolent of crap cleaner in linux?what program will clean the temp/log bs as well as secure deleting it [03:48] yankefish: I think I would recommend you the auto partitioning from the installer.. are you using hte live CD? [03:48] yeah im using live cd [03:49] yankefish: then go one step back, and then for partitioning, select the auto option :) way safer! :) [03:49] phoenixz: too bad some good softwares wont come to linux ; / [03:49] i cant i have vista installed already [03:49] xy|ox: Its a complete lockup, mouse pointer moves, but nothing else works. [03:49] ShexNivis: blame patents :) [03:49] dont want to format my hdd thats why i created a partation myself [03:49] yankefish: and? so? [03:49] i'm looking at the apt-cache man page, but i'm not seeing this. how do i snag a listing of all teh files in an installed .deb? [03:50] my friends heard about installing ubuntu form xp :O [03:50] yankefish: hahahah... forget that.. remove the partition [03:50] *from [03:50] so delete it and make it free space [03:50] this is not good, right? [03:51] yankefish: burbuja: windows XP installed is no problem, you don;;t need to make partitions.. just reboot your machine and boot from the CD.. There you select install, and the installer will use free partition space, and if needed, move the windows partition away for you.. [03:51] hello, quick partition mounting question if someone has a sec [03:51] ohh ok i see and it wont affect windows in any way [03:51] the fact that lvm volumes (and the device nodes generated for them) have readable names is already quite convenient even if you don't do anything fancy with how they're arranged over physical drives [03:51] yankefish: burbuja: We're talking your friendly neighbourhood super hero here... [03:51] yes, I understand [03:51] Xpistos, you still there? [03:52] I told to my friend it is bad choice to intall ubuntu within xp [03:52] also out of xp [03:52] CoJaBo-Aztec, i'd try to close the tab that causes the crash, it should take its time, then console error [03:52] yankefish: not in anyway but that the windows partition can be made smaller if you want to.. it will automatically defragment and resize the windows partition for you, ONLY if you wish... the process is automatically, and safe but DO MAKE BACKUPS! === Tux is now known as Out_Cold [03:52] aight Phoenixz i got it thx 4 da help [03:52] Stargazer: Switch to classic view [03:52] burbuja: actually, I remember reading that you can start the installer from within XP already.. go ahead and try! :) [03:52] xy|ox: I tried, but the system (not just Firefox) is completely locked up. [03:53] yankefish: whah? :) [03:53] :O [03:53] incredible [03:53] i am having an issue with visual effects. if i enable normal effects, everything works fine, but everytime i reboot it resets to no visual effects, and certain things like my window decorator fail to start. everything just works when i re-enable normal effects. how can i get that to stick when i reboot? [03:53] ok last step i have vista as primary Os, ubuntu has options to install boot loader should i or just use vista boot loader [03:54] yankefish: nah, use ubuntu boot loader.. it just works.. === carlgibson is now known as rkitect [03:54] aight thx [03:54] yankefish: and as I just told burbuja, you can even start to vista and start the installer from there.. should take you right into ubuntu and do the rest of the work from there [03:54] now where can i get some cool appz 4 ubuntu [03:54] CoJaBo-Aztec, try another browser if its the same, its just a bad page, i wouldnt visit anymore [03:54] yankefish: burbuja: any problems you encounter during installation, you can always come here to IRC [03:55] Phoenixz thx 4 all da help also [03:55] phoenixz: does that boot the livecd or wubi though? [03:55] thank you a lot phoenixz [03:55] Xpistos, that doesn't show me a 'Network Connections' item, i do though have a 'Network and Sharing Center' but that does not bring me to an LAN connections menu, either. [03:55] xy|ox: Problem is it should not be able to bring down the entire system, so I need to know why it does. [03:55] you are very friendly :) [03:55] yankefish: apt-get (command line) or synaptics (ubuntu graphical interface) or kpackage (kubuntu) [03:55] anybody know where to get appz [03:55] i just placed some automount lines in fstab, and rebooted the system. The mounts failed to occur, but now the physical drive is not appearing in the /dev folder and fdisk is failing to fins the physical drive and the partitions. Any suggestions on where to go from here? [03:55] at this point i have restored fstab back to its original state without the lines i added [03:55] the mounts were working when i did them manually before placing the lines in fstab [03:55] is there anyways to make ubuntu reconize my ntfs files [03:55] yankefish: ubuntu does not work like windows where you go to website and download an exe.. you can install directly from the command line, or from a package manager program [03:56] burbuja: np, here to help [03:56] :) [03:56] yankefish: or simply use the add/remove programs from main menu [03:56] arand: sorry, dont understand :) [03:56] aight thx guys [03:56] what about ntfs files [03:56] arand: that one, yea.... sorry, Im a kubuntu guy, but i thought it was called synaptics for ubuntu, no? [03:56] yankefish: it will normally be ble to read your ntfs drives automatically [03:56] Sry to repeat but Is there a text editor that preserves the newlines in files? I want to avoid using unix2dos [03:56] yankefish: no problem, you can mount ntfs without problem [03:57] ok thats it m8's im done thx 4 all da help [03:57] phoenixz: synaptics is one level down compared to the gnome-app-install [03:57] f windows i like linux now lol [03:57] arand: ah, okay, didnt know that [03:57] yankefish: one day (k)ubuntu, and you'll never want to return to windows anymore.. [03:58] arand: truth be told though.. while still superior to windows, 9.04 is one of the worst ubuntu releases I've seen so far.. Are there any more people that have problems? [03:59] i have a problem with 9.04 [03:59] my internet does not connect [03:59] 9.04 has had the least problems for me of any ubuntu release [03:59] phoenixz: Oh, it's been lovely on my part, I've managed to hit the exact right hardware... But it is sure noticable here in the channel, intel, ati, sound not working.... et. [03:59] any suggestions on why a disk is not showing up in /dev after adding mount lines to fstab? [04:00] or with fdisk -l for that matter? [04:00] gnome-network-admin is not working at all for me [04:00] arand: you lucky bastard.. I got intel chipset laptop... I got it fixed with running kernel 2.6.30 but geez, this never has been this bad [04:00] * arand hugs nvidia card [04:00] arand: ubuntu is not having problems with pulse? heard lots of stuff bout that too [04:00] what can i do to fix this gnome-network-admin problem [04:01] krishna3456: what kind of network are you connecting to? [04:01] rkitect: fstab is for mounting disks, not for showing up in /dev.. [04:01] phoenixz: time-based release strategy == death [04:01] rkitect: check the command "dmesg" before and after connecting the harddrive and see hwat the kernel says about detecting it [04:01] phoenixz: sorry, did i say fstab -l, i meant fdisk -l [04:02] broadband using modem [04:02] losher: not entirely I suppose.. depends a bit on developers and packagers, both need to consider that [04:02] rkitect: check dmesg [04:02] phoenixz: the physical disk was showing up earlier, but now it's not. checking now [04:02] is jaunty more secure than intrepid or hardy? [04:02] rkitect: dmesg should say that it detected the disk and made it available, or complain with errors [04:03] phoenixz: not many problems for me, but it does seem something is frequently borking sound, whether it's pulse or something else idk [04:03] ubugtu: I suppose each subsequent version SHOULD be more secure.. :) but thats a wild guess [04:03] anyone know what segment fault is?? [04:03] g0wda: means a program borked up [04:03] g0wda: program crash, pretty much [04:03] phoenixz: im not after wild guesses. thanks though [04:03] if that explains anything :) [04:03] when you drop a piece of orange on the floor and someone trips on it [04:04] anyone here use znc? I'm setting a password in my config, but then when I goahead and try to connect I get a msg saying Invalid password :(... anyone have any ideas? [04:04] my shitty shell script is sayin that! [04:04] MF_Debian: lol [04:04] can any one plz pm me who can say some information on my gnome-network-admin problem. [04:04] phoenixz: "bork" way to define a tricky work ;) [04:04] g0wda: then check if the bad shelscript is using commands that ccause it, because AFAIK, shellscripts themselves cant segfault, it would be bash that would segfault then. [04:05] can anyone help me? [04:05] krishna3456: !pm [04:05] !pm | krishna3456 [04:05] krishna3456: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first. [04:05] Anyone use Freemind? How do I configure the size of those enormous fonts on the menubar? [04:05] I just installed Jaunty fresh, and need to mount my .Private directory which I restored from a backup. ecryptfs-mount-passphrase returns a "not set up" error. [04:06] cellofellow, did you mount ~/.Private? [04:06] geez [04:06] !pm | krishna3456 [04:06] krishna3456: okay, so what happens when you try to connect? does the network show up as "connectable" in the network icon-applet, does it give any messages? [04:06] i pmed you phoenixz [04:06] is the a command to autoplay/autostart a CD? [04:06] ubugtu: check what the 9.04 release notes say about security fixes. But pretty much any supported release gets the important security fixes, so I see no reason to assume any of the releases is significantly more or less secure. [04:06] !pm | krishna3456 for godsake! :) [04:06] krishna3456 for godsake! :): Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first. [04:07] * arand thinks ubottu is being a bit impolite :D [04:07] i asked gnome-network-admin is not working [04:07] phoenixz: ok i see where it's detecting the drive now, it's coming back with a qc timeout [04:07] !fail [04:07] Sorry, I don't know anything about fail [04:07] krishna3456: wat exactly is not working? [04:07] rkitect: dunno what qc timeout is, sorry [04:07] anyone know when "effects" will be available for intel graphics cards again? It seems to be disabled since jaunty [04:07] setuid: well, yes, but I don't think it has the passphrase [04:07] When attempting to install a network printer, my Ubuntu 9-4 does not find it at the http address I gave even though my Windows Vista and XP recognize the address as correct. [04:07] doc|laptop: I have a fix.. [04:07] how do i install ubuntu 9.04 over the previous version? [04:08] krishna3456: okay, so what happens when you try to connect? does the network show up as "connectable" in the network icon-applet, does it give any messages? [04:08] doc|laptop, i have intel gfx and everything works [04:08] doc|laptop: let me look for the URL again. [04:08] i installed gnome-network-admin when i start that it has to have a button to unlock it but it doesnt exist on the window [04:08] phoenixz: sweet, thanks [04:08] Barridus: not for me for some reason [04:08] phoenixz: says failed to read native max address [04:08] unlock is not present in the applet [04:08] doc|laptop, maybe different chipset? i forget what mine is, whatever the acer aspireone has [04:09] Barridus: maybe [04:09] so what ever changes i do are not bieing saved as root [04:09] rkitect: ummm.. you got me here.. maybe try #linux for the big boys? [04:09] try a couple of other things first real quic, thanks for getting me this far [04:09] krishna3456: you might consider running it then from a shell with sudo gnome_network_applet I suppose? [04:10] i have did that [04:10] how do i install ubuntu 9.04 over the previous version? [04:10] it got the same window but i can see a error [04:10] Wouldn't update in ubuntu download and update the os? [04:10] krishna3456: are there any particualar reason you installed that package? network-manager should work normally... [04:10] error is :gtk.combobox.items.error [04:11] Okay I know this is a weird question..but was just curious who here uses compiz and who doesn't? [04:11] it is because modems are not having auto configuration in 9.04 [04:11] it asked me to download that package [04:11] i have the CD [04:11] anybody know how? [04:11] krishna3456: ok [04:11] I tried compiz before and didn't like it and disabled it.. [04:12] doc|laptop: crap, I cant find the link anymore! well, basically, you have to install the 2.6.30 kernel from launchpad, and then add these repos to apt sources.list, and then apt-get update.. deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/xorg-edgers/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main #xorg-edgers PPA and deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/xorg-edgers/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main #xorg-edgers PPA === Kipas_Angin is now known as myphnix === Hakudoshi is now known as supergear [04:13] phoenixz: great, thanks [04:13] i usually have compiz off, and when/if i have it on it's fairly conservative settings, i find it distracting generally [04:13] phoenixz: is that being added into default any time soon do you know? [04:13] doc|laptop: youd have to look for the 2.6.30 kernel yourself, but it should be the files linux-headers-2.6.30-020630rc5_2.6.30-020630rc5_all.deb, linux-headers-2.6.30-020630rc5-generic_2.6.30-020630rc5_i386.deb andlinux-image-2.6.30-020630rc5-generic_2.6.30-020630rc5_i386.deb [04:13] anyone has any possible explanation for my problem? [04:13] phoenixz: doc|laptop I think there are patched versions of the intell drivers in jaunty-proposed as well which you might want to try first... [04:13] doc|laptop: 2.6.30? noway, not till 9.10 anyway [04:13] arand: thanks [04:13] phoenixz: argh, ok, thank you [04:14] doc|laptop: besides, this is EXPIRIMENTAL.. It was recommended to me, I tried it and iti works great! Look at this smile! :D [04:14] phoenixz: :) [04:14] wheelie207, and Barridus...I usually have it on but I am seeing a major speed difference when it is on and off [04:14] doc|laptop: then again, it might send your harddrive to hell.. in any case, don't blame the messenger (That would be me)! :) [04:14] phoenixz: hehe, ok, thanks again [04:15] it really slows down the system when using compiz... [04:15] arand: doc|laptop: correct, there are multiple solutions availabe, and in all honesty, I'd try mine at the very last.. there was this page that showed like 4 solutions, but I lost it :( [04:15] wheelie207: using intel? [04:15] no worries [04:15] pegon, yes speed is another concern. i usally have a bunch of apps going and compiz can make it choke up a bit. i'll take speed over pretty any day, but that's just me [04:15] yes.. [04:15] wheelie207: intel graphics? [04:15] Nvidia [04:15] Hi! I am using 8.10 and facing issue with network configuration. Everytime I reboot i need to specify my static IP again. What is the solution ? [04:15] wheelie207: Ubuntu 9.04? === fabricio is now known as vallim [04:15] yes [04:16] my laptop sits idle and the system monitor says that both of my CPUs are ~50% [04:16] wheelie207: ow, in that case, never mind.. this was only about intel GPU :_ [04:16] how do you tell what's sucking up most of my clock cycles? [04:16] Frijolie: system monitor, or in a text console, try "top" [04:16] god, Im fast today [04:16] Frijolie, click the system monitor, it'll give you a window with app list [04:16] I used system monitor or some other program to see what the system is doing.. [04:16] phoenixz, in the processes tab the most that it says is 7% and it's nautilus [04:17] phoenixz: ffr; unplugging the drive, booting, then replugging the drive in (ide) after another boot brought the drive back [04:17] Frijolie, in my experience, gnome's system monitor uses a bunch in and of itself. try top, or preferrably atop [04:17] you can see whats running when using top.. [04:17] Hi, I get the following: "songbird: error while loading shared libraries: libjemalloc.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" when loading Songbird. What can I do? [04:17] it saying Xorg and gnome-system-mo are taking 50% [04:17] Please [04:17] rkitect: might be a kernel borkup on drive status... specially if you disconnected a mounted drive, heard that more.. unfortunately, a reboot is then requiered [04:17] I'm seeing here Ubuntu is using two ways to add up the amount of data I'm using. System monitor uses GiB. Properties of a hard drive uses GB. Properties of my home directory says 171.4 GB while system monitor of the same disk says 184.1 GiB. Which one is more accurate to go by? [04:17] I know my ~/.Private directory passphrase, but I need to set up my ecryptfs configuration with it. [04:18] and that's idle! what about when I'm doing encoding or something. My lappy runs really hot...so hot i'm afraid [04:18] Roasted: GiB should be factors of 1024, GB 1000.. [04:18] Frijolie, gnome-system-monitor? use "top" or "atop" as a system monitor instead. [04:18] wheelie207: doc|laptop: two options you could try which are fairly simple is either adding the jaunty-proposed repository and installing the "not-yet-fully-tested" patch which exists, or you could look at this pagehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/IntelPerformance particularly at the end, the description on how to change back to intrepid driver... [04:18] Roasted: both should be equally acurrate [04:18] phoenixz: it almost acted like it didn't unmount when i halted earlier and couldn't reinitialize it [04:18] yeah, top says Xorg ~42% [04:18] phoenixz: either way, scare is over, back to getting it to automount [04:19] rkitect: yeah, kernel frackup [04:19] phoenixz: thanks again [04:19] only thing I got open is a terminal window and xchat [04:19] phoenixz - is there any way to change either style so I can have them BOTH be GB or GiB? [04:19] I run 2 gigs of mem on my system.. [04:19] those don't even register a %, Xorg supposed to be that big of a hog? [04:19] Frijolie: oh boy.. using intel GPU? [04:19] yes [04:19] phoenixz: thanks, have bookmarked it. Have to run now so will take a look later. [04:19] phoenixz, yes [04:20] I don't remember the app that give a detail view of the system.. [04:20] Frijolie: no, X is a nice lean mean machine.. problem is that 9.04 has some borked up intel GPU driverss [04:20] Does anyone know why I get "songbird: error while loading shared libraries: libjemalloc.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" when running Songbird? [04:20] Please [04:20] arand: could you send the same suggestion about intel GPU to Frijolie? [04:20] Hi! Any suggestions to the issue I asked ? [04:20] are you using propriety drivers or open source [04:20] Alex_21: sounds like a missing library file.. how did you install the thing? [04:21] S_A: My long term memory holds about 15 lines.. your question was from way before that! [04:21] Frijolie: two options you could try which are fairly simple is either adding the jaunty-proposed repository and installing the not-yet-fully-tested patch which exists, or you could look at this pagehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/IntelPerformance particularly at the end, the description on how to change back to intrepid driver... [04:21] Hi! I am using 8.10 and facing issue with network configuration. Everytime I reboot i need to specify my static IP again. What is the solution ? [04:21] I made my own .deb file [04:22] There is none for my archetecture [04:22] Network Manager always berings back to DHCP configuration on reboots [04:22] phoenixz, are they going to get those "borked" Intel drivers fixed shortly? [04:22] brings* [04:22] Got a question:- Why does mounting an iso in Ubuntu (using a right click on an iso file) result in a mounted directory full of filenames with weird ;1 extensions? [04:22] Alex_21: there you go.. :) check for the missing library file, you will find that its.. eh.. missing.. :) Then try to see why its expected there and who / what should have put it there.. [04:22] * arand thinks something like that should be added as !intel ... [04:23] Frijolie: Its a work in progress afaik.. I resolved it myself with switching to a 2.6.30 kernel (you are at 2.6.28 atm) [04:23] phoenixz: SOS! 15 lines will go away soon :) [04:23] arand: AMEN! [04:23] Where do I locate the file? [04:23] I've never packaged anything before [04:23] S_A, open network manager config tool, or just edit /etc/network/interfaces [04:23] some are from Brasil? [04:23] phoenixz, i followed Intel Performance tutorial in the forums and got Compiz working again [04:23] S_A: network manager.. you could specify it manually in /etc/network/interfaces [04:23] phoenixz, got some rc kernel or something [04:23] bandung [04:23] !br | vallim: [04:23] vallim:: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Obrigado. [04:23] Hmm, somehow after purging apache and installing lighthttpd my root folder became writable. What do I have to do to fix this? [04:24] vallim: but you're very welcome here in english! :) [04:24] phoenixz: I did that but /etc/resolv.conf was clear in morning [04:24] Frijolie: one patch ( I don't know if it is *the patch*) is in the proposed updates atm, I'm not sure why it's not been pushed out to regular updates though... [04:24] phoenixz: although I specified manually. it again cleared on reboot. [04:25] phoenixz: I am sure this must be a common problem for 8.10. [04:25] S_A: if you modify that file, you're going manual.. make sure you have a backup of that file when using DHCP, then disable network manager (make sure it does not start up again) and modify the etc/network/interfaces file [04:25] Where do I find the library to fix "songbird: error while loading shared libraries: libjemalloc.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"? Please [04:25] phoenixz, where are you from? [04:25] arand, phoenixz: i followed this tutorial http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582&highlight=Intel [04:25] vallim: Mexico.. well, Holland actually but living in Mexico [04:26] arand, phoeixz: it got Comiz working again but I've noticed that it's eating my CPU up [04:26] Please! [04:26] Frijolie, compiz does use more cpu [04:26] Alex_21: patience please, only have 3 hands to work with! [04:27] Barridus, yeah but 50% of core 2 duos? [04:27] Frijolie: Barridus: but not that much, thats not normal [04:27] Alex_21: SOngbird is kind of unsupported on ubuntu so far, and I'm afraid I don't have any experience with it either.. [04:27] I want to put a CD in my computer and produce an iso from it. What's the easiest (preferably GUI method) of doing this? [04:27] arand: Frijolie: let me try to find that page again.. [04:27] idk what's "normal" for gnome [04:27] Alex_21: you might want to try #linux [04:28] phoenixz: mexico? next to Brazil.....do you work with Linux?! [04:28] Barridus: I've worked with Fedora 5 on a 32 MB geforce4 graphics card, celeron 2.66GHz and compiz almost never passed 5-10% [04:28] Ok [04:28] I'll do that === navetz_ is now known as navetz [04:28] Thanks for your help [04:28] Thanks for your helpGood night [04:28] Somehow my root "/" folder became writable. What do I have to do to fix this? [04:28] vallim: I suppose its more or less next to brazil, ignoring some 10 other countries, and I suppose I work with linux too yeah :) [04:29] BiosElement: writable by who? [04:29] phoenixz, hehe you're a trooper, compiz was borked to hell on my geforce4, was a pain to fix XD [04:29] phoenixz: all. Or so said the warning. I went and my non-root account can make/delete files there but it wasn't recursive thankfully. [04:30] phoenixz, alright, shall I roll everything back? I have proposed repos selected... [04:30] BiosElement, is this in terminal or gnome [04:30] Barridus: hell, I had that machine with 5 geforce 4 cards, running 5x X for 5 independent users with compiz effects, giving one computer to 5 people.. too bad that project went to frack :'( [04:30] Barridus, Gnome but I can test via terminal if you'd like. [04:31] hi folks [04:31] BiosElement: maybe its the webservers / that its talking about ? I doubt your systems / is writable.. in any case, for apache try #apache, dunno if lighthttp has a channel here but it should be easy to find :) [04:31] !hi | sil3nt|warri0r [04:31] sil3nt|warri0r: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu! [04:31] BiosElement, i just had an idea but it's offbase if it's in gnome too [04:31] thx frnds [04:32] Frijolie: I'm trying to find the page again that I applied [04:32] sil3nt|warri0r: you have a question? [04:32] i have dell studio, and ubuntu jus works like a rocket in it [04:32] phoenixz, alright...no hurry [04:32] except fingerprint logon [04:32] Frijolie: you might want to only upgrade the xserver-video-intel package, along with dependencies, and then disable proposed, unless you want to have proposed patches for your whole system [04:32] Frijolie, what was gnome's cpu usage with compiz on before these "fixes" you did? [04:32] good night [04:32] Frijolie: duh, right under my face.. you already gave me the URL! :) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582&highlight=Intel [04:32] i have a folder with to many .deb files that i would like to install the all, is there is a command that install all that package of that folder? [04:33] so, is there anything which can configur my fingerprint device [04:33] Frijolie: dunno which of the 4 solutions you tried, but I tried the one with kernel 2.6.30 and it works like a charm for me.. NO GUARANTEES THOUGH! [04:33] Barridus, I never checked them until I started noticing that my laptop began running hot [04:33] I have a friend did exchange for Mexico.......he liked the country very..... [04:33] Frijolie, could be a poorly configured driver causing it [04:33] sil3nt|warri0r: can't help you there but if you find anything (there should be actually), please let me know, sounds interresting [04:33] arand: could you add this URL to !intel maybe? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582&highlight=Intel [04:34] phoenixz, yeah that's the one that I tried and upgraded to the .30rc kernel that got Compiz working again but that's also when my lappy began to run hot [04:34] kattollikisd: "dpkg -i *" I think, although if they have dependencies on each other it might not be that easy... [04:34] Frijolie, my hdd temp is 40C and core0=35,core1=40C [04:34] arand: thats the page that put out the fire for me and it has multiple solutions anyway [04:34] phoenixz: oh, I've got no power over the bots :) [04:34] phoenixz, sure :) [04:34] Frijolie: ups.. [04:34] sil3nt|warri0r, I don't know the exact temp...just noticed that my keyboard is hot to the touch and the CPU fan is running full speed all the time [04:34] Who is in charge of the bots here? [04:35] skynet :( [04:35] Barridus: No more TV for you :) [04:35] phoenixz, a number of people have different levels of access - found a bug? [04:35] he he [04:35] Barridus, that comes out Friday doesn't it? [04:35] Frijolie: which lappy ? [04:35] Frijolie, soon i think, i lost track [04:35] movies over on #ubuntu-offtopic, please [04:35] sil3nt|warri0r, Toshiba Satellite [04:35] Madpilot: actually.. I'd like to propose somehting.. add http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582&highlight=Intel to !intel [04:36] Barridus, yeah I'm excited [04:36] Madpilot: possibly https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/IntelPerformance as well [04:36] Madpilot: you got bot control? thing is, that page has quite some good info on the intel GPU problem of 9.04 [04:36] how can camerorama find and use the webcam, while nothing else can even detect it...argh [04:36] Madpilot: what arand says.. === Mack is now known as Mack|away [04:37] phoenixz, I can create and edit !tells, at least [04:37] because of this temp my hdd stoped working, gave smart error. contacted dell. got a new hdd, this time it was hitachi [04:37] !tells [04:37] Sorry, I don't know anything about tells [04:37] anyone had sucess running InstantAction browser based games? [04:37] there doesn't seem to be an !intel tell at the moment [04:37] does anybody else here have two entries for "remote desktop viewer" in their menu editor? For some reason I have two, one checked and one unchecked. [04:37] Madpilot: in that case, could you add an !intel maybe? I've seen like 5 people in 5 minutes with intel driver problems [04:37] Madpilot: perhaps !intelregressions [04:37] phoenixz, do you know some good book for Linux? I'm getting started with Linux [04:37] and if there are ubuntu developers here.. please.. intel driver problems.. fix? fast? furious?! [04:38] vallim: help.ubuntu.com [04:38] vallim: no books, just internet and trying stuff, trust me, works lots faster and better [04:38] phoenixz, very true [04:38] vallim, yeah the web > books for learning linux [04:38] phoenixz, I've heard it's a known issue for 9.04 - I've finally got a fully supported ATI myself. I'll start an !intel one [04:38] vallim: And IRC too :) [04:38] phoenixz, on the Intel problem [04:38] Madpilot: well, i think !intel would be a bit easier, nobody is going to guess !intelregressions or something like that.. :) [04:38] vallim, the Official Ubuntu Book is pretty good, and there's a new edition coming out for 9.04 shortly [04:39] nomasteryoda: yeah? === Naraku is now known as flick [04:39] oh the comment on the intel video problems [04:39] phoenixz, easy enough to alias tells together, for anyone who guesses !intelregressions :) [04:39] vallim: I can recommend you just to take one part, a program, a command whatever, and study that.. and grow in it bit by bit [04:39] vallim: use google! [04:39] hey folks had a question I have a Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00GHz with 7875 MB Memory DDR3 with two nvidia 260 evga cards and evga board and everytime I transfer from one sata drive to another large file seems like ubuntu just stalls is there something I need to configure and change? === flick is now known as meow [04:39] Madpilot: ah, it would work with alias? [04:40] I am unable to read my inbox,sent mail of my gmail account.my internet is connected anyone please help me [04:40] Madpilot: I mean.. you can it to the entire name? [04:40] where would gnome, window manager, window decorator, and applications like that log messages? [04:40] hhh: can you access other websites? === meow is now known as dude [04:40] both seagate drive 7200 RPM ones is 1.5 TB and the other 1.0 TB [04:40] panfist: what type of messages? [04:40] hhh: uuuh, no google experts here :) but, can you open other pages? [04:40] ziroday:yes [04:40] hello and can someone please tell me there the ubuntu default blue yelp icons located at? [04:40] phoenixz, no, no tab complete for bot tells, sorry [04:40] ty [04:40] hhh: just not gmail? [04:40] i think my window decorator and possibly other desktop components crash when i reboot [04:40] i am trying to figure out why [04:41] check this out... cd /usr/lib; ls -l *flash* => "rw-r--r-- 1 root root 10131640 2009-05-20 00:07 libflashplayer.so" ... (still i /usr/lib) .... ls -l libflashplayer.so => "ls: cannot access libflashplayer.so: No such file or directory" [04:41] ziroday:i am unable to open and read my gmail sent mails,drafts,inbox [04:41] Madpilot: then it would be a bit hard, don't you think? anyway, you're the tells boss, not me, Im just tellings whats betters.. :) [04:41] anyone? === dude is now known as prick [04:41] hhh: try clear your firefox cache [04:41] phoenixz: all right.....I'm going follow your advice... [04:41] ziroday: how to clear my firfox cache please help me [04:42] ahaha nevermind... [04:42] hhh: press ctrl+shift+del in firefox [04:42] vallim: not for lazyness, I'm just telling you this because this is how I leart it.. I see a problem, or something I dont understand, and I start looking it up on google, etc.. teaches you problem solving which is very important === prick is now known as pixiecat [04:42] ubottu, intel | phoenixz [04:42] phoenixz: Ubuntu 9.04 has a known regression for some Intel graphics support. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/IntelPerformance and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582 for more information. [04:42] ziroday:after that what should i do.how to check whether it is cleared or not [04:42] Madpilot: wohoo! :) [04:43] Madpilot: My first tells! more or less.. [04:43] hhh: well a dialog box will appear, tick the cache box, hit okay and then try to access gmail again [04:43] ziroday:i did not get any dialog box. [04:44] phoenixz, after having issues with ATI cards on and off in previous Ubuntu releases, I'm just somewhat amused that my card works perfectly with Free drivers now, and Intel users have issues... [04:44] hhh: in firefox go to Tools > Clear Private Data, do you get a dialog box? [04:44] ziroday:yes now what should i do [04:44] hhh: tick the Cache and Cookies option, and then hit okay [04:45] i can enable normal and extra visual effects and experience them just fine, but whenever I reboot it resets to none and other parts of my desktop environment don't come up unless i explicitly start them [04:45] Madpilot: its just intel who in a mood of critical insanety decided to remove that which works for this which is better, but doesn't work yet.. [04:45] ziroday:ok now i should restart my gmail account ? [04:46] Madpilot: actually, if you ask me, you even might add a notion about this problem in the welcome messages of the channel.. [04:46] phoenixz: I agree with you...I love google. how long do you use Linux? [04:46] When I found the problem myself, I was in this channel too (2 weeks ago) for hours, with like 10 other people, trying to find what the hell was wrong [04:47] Where can i find a good howto guide for postfix [04:47] vallim: some... ehh.. when was redhat 9? 5-6 years or something? [04:47] I can't change the cpu speed using "sudo echo ondemand > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor" ... it still tells me permission denied [04:47] what happened to my sudo powers? [04:47] anyone know why moving large files from hd to another would lag out Ubuntu 9.04 jaunty? [04:47] pwasek08: google for "howto guide postfix" I think.. [04:47] ziroday:thank you,now its working,can u tell me how to uninstall netbeans ? [04:47] oOarthurOo: kryptonite.. [04:47] lol [04:47] more like ubunewbite [04:48] hhh: sudo apt-get remove netbeans ? [04:48] mavann: as in, make the system non responsive? [04:48] woot, I finally got my laptop to boot up on a livecd [04:48] oOarthurOo: sudo and > don't play nice. One sec [04:48] is this only for linux, or macs are allowed? [04:48] phoenixz: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThinkFinger [04:48] yes phoenixz [04:48] mavann: there'se an interresting question.. I was moving an svk repository, like 200.000 small files.. immediately, the system was non responsivev.. even the mouse went haywire.. [04:48] phoenixz, not sure it's so widespread as to require adding to /topic or the welcome message, really. the new tell will help a lot, though. [04:48] I don't know....hehehehe.......did use already [04:48] Manelvallet: I don't even use Ubuntu :) [04:48] ops.....sorry [04:49] Madpilot: it will! At least we have something to quickly refer to.. [04:49] happens often [04:49] have you been use Debian? [04:49] storebeck neither do I [04:49] when I am moving pictures or large movie files [04:49] vallim: no, redhat, fedora and ubuntu, though debian should be very similar since ubuntu stems from it [04:50] what's the command so i can view my network settings IE: ip address [04:50] Manelvallet: if you stray to far from ubuntu-related stuff you might get warned, but otherwise, feel at home :) [04:50] oOarthurOo: do sudo -i to get to a root shell and then run that command [04:50] ziroday:thank you [04:50] arand is a mac ubuntu related? [04:50] coreyman: ifconfig [04:51] mavann: can't tell you, really what could cause it.. i've seen it myself as well.. if you find out, please do let me know [04:51] * Manelvallet uses a mac [04:51] Manelvallet, strictly speaking, #ubuntu is for tech support for Ubuntu only. #ubuntu-offtopic for chat. [04:51] ziroday thx [04:51] anyone elses' sound not working with jaunty? [04:51] I have checked to see if anything else is taking resources at the time but nothing else is running [04:51] thanks ziroday that's the answer. echo performance | sudo tee -a /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor works. Yours would probably work too, but I want to avoid violating too many ubuntu rules of good behaviour :) [04:51] eross: no [04:51] movie player shows the volume moving but i can't get any audio [04:51] oOarthurOo: heh [04:52] eross: check it out in alsamixer, make sure nothing is 'MM' [04:52] it did not happen with intrepid though only with jaunty [04:52] why must i re-enable normal visual effects each time i log in [04:52] üßüñ†ü [04:52] I have a question, does linux use ubuntu? [04:53] yes it does :p [04:53] PCM is blanked out, wont let me adjust it [04:53] and mac? [04:53] no, but ubuntu uses linux. nice unicode characters, btw. [04:53] I understood.....I'm liking of Linux....I'm thinking family and with good usability..... [04:53] eross: Hmm, well sounds like that's where the problem is [04:53] hi. i need to use apt with chroot in order to solve a dependance conflict in a distro that im making. i need help creating the executable link to make this command work::: "chroot /builder/srv/livecd/chroot-i386 /whatever/apt-get -i HOME=/root TERM=${TERM} PATH=/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin DEBIAN_PRIORITY=critical [04:54] phoenixz:I understood.....I'm liking of Linux....I'm thinking family and with good usability..... === ripps_ is now known as ripps [04:54] vallim: Just install it, it will easily fit right next to your windows [04:55] is red hat very hard? [04:55] hard is a relative word [04:55] found this link for sound solution in jaunty for whoever was needing it http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1130384.html [04:55] vallim, its an off-topic discussion... [04:56] phoenixz: Red har is very difficult to use? [04:56] vallim: redhat right now is enterprise version.. fedora is the open source version of redhat, [04:56] !off-topic [04:56] #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks! [04:56] nomasteryoda: yeah yeah, easy on him, its just a single question.. [04:56] ya just diverting... [04:57] channel is kinda quiet tonight anyways [04:57] nomasteryoda: You're just worried he might stray off the path of ubuntu ;) [04:57] lol [04:57] hi. i need to use apt with chroot in order to solve a dependance conflict in a distro that im making. i need help creating the executable link to make this command work::: "chroot /builder/srv/livecd/chroot-i386 /whatever/apt-get -i HOME=/root TERM=${TERM} PATH=/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin DEBIAN_PRIORITY=critical [04:57] hey. i'm trying to access my ubuntu machine from a mac via samba. it shows up under shares on the mac but I cannot connect. I haven't done any sort of configuration on the ubuntu side. what do i need to do? [04:57] nomasteryoda: I'm new in the IRC......there is specific topics for discussion? [04:57] phoenixz, i work with redhat every day for my job... but ubuntu is home [04:57] You guys all actually use gnome? kde is so pretty. [04:57] * CoJaBo-Aztec uses kde [04:57] coreyman: Im a KDE man. Im cheating tonight.. :) [04:58] vallim, oh ya... lots of channels, #ubuntu-offtopic being one of them [04:58] kde4 is be-au-ti-ful... [04:58] coreyman: kde is unusable [04:58] >.> [04:58] irc's been around for ages... like jam, it lasts for ages [04:58] vallim: it depends on what you want to discuss.. for ubuntu technical problems, you can talk here.. [04:58] !br | vallim [04:58] vallim: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Obrigado. [04:58] coreyman, #kubuntu for you KDE addicts, plz :) [04:58] Some of the tools with Kubuntu (kpackagekit and the network manager) are outright terrible. [04:58] phoenixz: but It takes much resource: cpu, ram. low performance [04:59] if you want to talk to brazilian people, you can go there ^^^ [04:59] madpilot i was just there, noone chatting. [04:59] 23:55 <+wkdpstr> yey http://www.speedtest.net/result/478203082.png my wifi doesnt suck atm [04:59] Lint01: When was the last time you saw KDE4? a year ago? its very nice these days.. [04:59] Just wish Kubuntu had kept Adept :/ [05:00] You don't use apt-get? === noname is now known as Guest90256 [05:00] whatvn: might take a bit more ram, dunno honestly, but more CPU? I dont notice it! KDE is still under development, but will once again be more usable than gnome.. where gnome has 2 buttons, KDE will give me lots more options.. [05:00] how can I turn on the display to show me the x,y coordinates of the window im dragging and size of the window? [05:00] ok, i'm having an issue with visual effects resetting to none when i reboot. after some searching, i found compiz-check, which says I'm ok for everything...compiz-check says "texture_from_pixmap ok" and compiz --replace says "checking for texture_from_pixmap: not present" <-- why would this happen === eobanb_ is now known as eobanb [05:00] gnome is perfect for beginners or people who like it simple.. I like it more.. with more options [05:00] I prefer to use this topics for to practice my english.....do you understand me?! [05:01] CoJaBo-Aztec: yeah, thast a whole other discussion Im affraid, though since they kicked adept (and tried like 4 other package managers) I've gotten a whole lot better with apt-get :) [05:01] here in Brazil is hard practice for me practice my English [05:01] I am having issues with Ubuntu NBR [05:01] vallim: we would not be responding if we didnt understand ya :) [05:02] Gnome gui doesnt seem to load fully [05:02] phoenixz: Yeah I see... but whyd they have to replace it with one so buggy? o_O [05:02] !pm | coreyman [05:02] coreyman: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first. [05:02] phoenixz: and with Linux you're going to use button, aren't you? [05:03] whatvn: excuseme? I dont understand [05:03] phoenixz it wasn't a question [05:03] it was offtopic [05:03] phoenixz: why? [05:03] coreyman: my bad.. in any case, I dont get... hard.. from KDE... [05:03] phoenixz: forget it [05:04] phoenixz and you didn't understand it >.> [05:04] I think I actually did :) [05:04] People think they are hardcore for using gnome rather than having a great looking kde interface. [05:05] just keybind the snot out of everything [05:05] Anyone else having issues with Ubuntu NBR loading the gui? Its fine when I initially install it but when I reboot the taskbars are missing just a desktop background [05:05] coreyman: hardcore for not having the options they want to have? bwah.. I just take KDE which by now already has more options than gnome, and we're just at 4.2 yet.. wait for 4.5 :) [05:05] factotum: I just actually tried to imagine that.. :D [05:05] * arand thinks kde is kind of fugly, and corny... [05:06] yea phoenixz, they should just go pure Terminal and be real hard core, and counterproductive since you wont get anything done without a GUI [05:06] lol [05:06] arand: everybody to its own :) I'd recommend gnome to my mom and dad.. actually, I did! thhough kde4.2 is so nice, it actually might be somehting I'd recommend today.. [05:06] haha [05:06] Hi, I installed WICD, but now can't connect to a wireless network. Does anyone know the name of the package of the default network managers? [05:07] until recenty I just went to openbox and mc, could never make up my mind between gnome and kde [05:07] coreyman: If you'd like.. :) look, you can fight about it all night but, if you like gnome, go ahead and use it, I won't complain.. Im not hardcore, I just like to have a few more options.. [05:07] oddity network-manager-gnome [05:07] coreyman: Thanks a ton! === Demonicdata is now known as Seti-high [05:08] I have an HDD with 2 partitions. XP is on the first. When I install ubuntu on the second partition of the HDD drive, is there a way to have XP the default booting OS/? [05:08] phoenixz i'm just waiting for my upgrade to the new kde to finish downloading, i got it on my laptop already but my desktop is lacking. [05:08] whats an app that shows my webcam [05:08] lyrae: VLC does. [05:08] SorenUbuntu, download kgrub editor and tick the option [05:08] CoJaBo-Aztec: thank you [05:09] coreyman: and on getting things done with a terminal.. Im a sysadmin at a datacenter... Me and my fellow windows coworkers had to reconfigure dns settings for a whole lot of servers.. 5 windows sysadmins vs me, and I had 2x more servers then they had.. 30 seconds later I was asking them how things were going :) they had not even started yet.. [05:09] * phoenixz loves command line, yes he does.. [05:09] felix, is that before I install ubuntu? [05:09] phoenixz: do you use some dock? like avant, cairo [05:09] phoenixz i meant for a production environment. [05:10] vallim: dock? I use KDE.. dont know much about docks :) [05:10] SorenUbuntu: or you could edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst file manually, setting the default number to the one that's appropriate... [05:10] coreyman: oh yes I know, sillybuns! [05:10] does anyone use songbird? [05:10] arand: I am very new to ubuntu, IDK how [05:10] phoenixz they were windows sys admins? like... microsoft~! oh lawd [05:10] SorenUbuntu, , after succesfully installed ubuntu ;) its a gui to configure grub. you can set up what system boot by default, and reduce the time if you want it to boot faster [05:10] don't you like of visual MacOS? hheeheh [05:11] marcus_aurelius, I tried it once or twice. Can I help? [05:11] а по русски [05:12] hello [05:12] CoJaBo-Aztec: where in VLC? looks like an audio player [05:12] felix, ok, ty............... the ubuntu install on the 2nd partition seems very easy................is there any way for me to screw it up? [05:12] chaorain, i'm dual-booting ubuntu and winxp, i tried to import my itunes library, which it did quite well, but it couldn't find any files because everything was in C:\Documents and Setttings\... [05:12] I need to install zoneminder www.zoneminder.com but I did sudo apt-get install zoneminder ... packages not found.. is there a way I must add some repository? [05:12] CoJaBo-Aztec: nevermind, got it [05:13] anyone here installed zoneminder on ubunto? [05:13] Hi! I remove dnetwork manager from my interpid because Network Manager was not working fine for static IP. Now I configured manually. IP address is working fine now but not dns. although entry in /etc/resolv.conf is fine [05:13] any hints ? [05:13] what browser yeilds the best java perfomance in Jaunty? [05:13] marcus_aurelius, Dual boot or Wubi? [05:13] I have a certain cron job set up for 5 */12 * * *, but it didn't execute at 0:05. What am I doing wrong? [05:14] marcus_aurelius, Close but BIG difference [05:14] ubuntu install on the 2nd partition seems very easy................is there any way for me to screw it up? [05:14] what's a wubi? long time unix user/admin, only proficient with linux [05:14] i'm nit getting sound in ubuntu ... though im able to play sound tests in "Preferences" [05:14] phoenixz: what the correct size of swap memory? [05:14] SorenUbuntu, no one if you dont touch the windows partition. you could install ubuntu in the same disk, but you would need to resize partitions and so. in other drive you can use it plenty, but i suggest you setting up a swap partition if you know [05:14] S_A you have the DNS fiven to you by your ISP [05:14] given* [05:15] !wubi | marcus_aurelius [05:15] marcus_aurelius: Wubi is an Ubuntu installer for Windows users that allows you to install and uninstall Ubuntu like a Windows application, in a simple and safe way. http://wubi-installer.org/support.php for troubleshooting. Please file bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug. [05:15] she_dyed: Yes! it is working fine in my otehr system [05:15] Is a swap file recommended for Jaunty? [05:15] marcus_aurelius, WUBI = Windows Ubuntu Instaler [05:15] vallim: usually 1.5 x your RAM memory, but not larger than 4GB.. In any case, if you use the ubuntu installer auto partitioner, it will create the swap for you [05:15] question: anyone remember the file you have to edit to change the default sound setup from trying to use 6 ports when there's only 3? [05:15] no [05:15] S_A whats happening now, you're not getting 'the outside world' [05:16] internet [05:16] when I istalled XP I set up 110GB for XP and 10GB for ubuntu [05:16] she_dyed: you are right [05:16] definitely not wubi, ubuntu has it's own partitions [05:16] wubi.. that sounds like a tribble.. damn wubis! [05:16] hi [05:16] How is it that an 11-line HTML page can bring down the entire OS? o_O [05:16] S_A maybe restart the network is all thats needed? [05:16] marcus_aurelius, so if you are experienced I assume you have ntgs-3g and the drive mounted properly right? [05:16] CoJaBo-Aztec: show me the page! [05:16] CoJaBo-Aztec: the OS is probably windows? [05:16] she_dyed: I rebooted PC as well. but still no success [05:17] felix_, when I istalled XP I set up 110GB for XP and 10GB for ubuntu, is that what you mean? [05:17] phoenixz: Kubuntu Jaunty, page viewed in Firefox. [05:17] yes, mounted on /media/OS, OS is equiv to C:\ under winxp [05:17] How do I type in the location of a networked folder into Dolphin? like //192.168.50.3/windows/ ? [05:17] CoJaBo-Aztec: show me that page! want to see :D [05:17] is there anything that I can debug to see why sound is not playing....i can also hear startup sound [05:17] SorenUbuntu, how did you installed ubuntu? wubi or ubiquity? [05:17] S_A server not found ? 'Try Again' is what you get? [05:17] all right....have you been compiler your kernel already? [05:17] phoenixz: (WinXP only takes 11 bytes of HTML to BSOD) [05:17] phoenixz: all right....have you been compiler your kernel already? [05:17] Hey [05:18] SAludos [05:18] Alguien Habla Español?? [05:18] CoJaBo-Aztec: and an HTML page having firefox bringing down entire kubuntu? That I don't believe, sorry.. [05:18] Spanish?? [05:18] CoJaBo-Aztec: unless you ran it under root maybe [05:18] guys.. there doesnt seem to be wine-doors for jaunty yet or is there? [05:18] marcus_aurelius, ok let me check some things with my install [05:18] she_dyed: If i do ping www.google.com. it says unknown host [05:18] S_A pastebin the outputs of ifconfig amd route commands [05:18] junke, vete a #ubuntu-es [05:18] vallim: yeah, multiple times.. but now I don't really bother :) its easy but there are so many options that it takes 4 hours to configure all that you want.. [05:18] felix, only xp is installed on 110GB partition, the 10GB partition is currentlly empty, I am here via Ubuntu Live CD [05:19] espera espera [05:19] !es | junke [05:19] junke: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es. [05:19] ok ok [05:19] Gracias [05:19] junke: jaja, no te preocupes [05:19] phoenixz: It does, running as normal user with all Firefox addons (even Javascript) disabled. Still trying to figure out how its crashing. [05:19] chaorain, i could copy all of C:\Documents...\iTunes Music to ~\Music, but that's 30+GB, i could also edit the .xml itunes library file, massive search and replace [05:19] junke ;) [05:19] no se como ir pero ya voy [05:19] How do I type in the location of a networked folder into Dolphin? like //192.168.50.3/windows/ ? [05:19] jejej [05:19] =) [05:19] CoJaBo-Aztec: send me link over PM ? [05:19] junke, escribe /join #ubuntu-es === amachu is now known as kanagaraj [05:20] pls tell me how to do shell script programming [05:20] junke: haz lo que dice felix_, puedes hablar ingles ahi [05:20] phoenixz: If this does turn out to be a real exploit, I'd like to have it submitted to Firefox/Kubuntu devs first... [05:20] kanagaraj: step one, you use a keyboard... [05:20] marcus_aurelius, which version of song bird? 1.1.2? [05:20] yes [05:21] kanagaraj: step two, type correctly, this isn't aol.. [05:21] kanagaraj: step 2, google for "bash programming tutorial" and follow one of the 10.000 websites on the subject [05:21] CoJaBo-Aztec, could you give me the link? [05:21] !shell | kanagaraj [05:21] kanagaraj: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal [05:21] chaorain, songbird 1.1.1 [05:21] kanagaraj, ldp.org all the docuemnts a growing boy will ever need [05:21] phoenixz: I have not yet compiled, but want, It is true that the system faster? [05:21] Hi. How do i view devices' information on terminal? [05:21] Oh, it refers to a CSS file... which is 1557 lines... o_O [05:21] felix, only xp is installed on 110GB partition, the 10GB partition is currentlly empty, I am here via Ubuntu Live CD...............what is the next step? just install ubuntu on the 10GB partition? will it ask me what partition to put it on? [05:22] phoenixz: *is faster [05:22] kanagaraj: open favourite text editor #!/bin/bash should be the first line, then just type away the commands... save as .sh and set permission to execute... [05:22] chaorain, is there a different repository i need to add? [05:22] vallim: if you configure the right options, it can become faster yes, smaller... but usually its by %... [05:22] lyrae, type lspci or lshw [05:22] marcus_aurelius, should be close enough. try [05:22] In pulseaudio /etc/pulse/system.pa config, when specifying 'load-module module-alsa-sink device=hw:0', how can I specify the sound card to be 'card 0' and 'device 2'? [05:22] kanagaraj: bash programming is not somehting you learn in 1o seconds, its not the matrix here.. :) [05:22] SorenUbuntu, open a terminal and run "ubiquity" i can guide you trough the process [05:23] ty [05:23] chaorain, ok, it gives me a file open dialog window [05:23] she_dyed: thanks [05:23] yes i have opened the terminal [05:23] CoJaBo-Aztec, whats the link? [05:23] kanagaraj: again, go to google, look for "bash programming tutorial" and follow those! [05:23] marcus_aurelius, navigate to the correct folder and try importing 1 file [05:24] marcus_aurelius, see if that works first [05:24] chaorain, file is grayed out [05:24] How do I list the total number of inodes on the disk? [05:24] marcus_aurelius, oh sorry. select the folder [05:24] is there some danger in a moment of compilation? for example, corrupt my hard disk [05:25] Any idea how I could determine how its crashing? [05:25] phoenixz: Is there some danger in a moment of compilation? for example, corrupt my hard disk [05:25] marcus_aurelius, oh yea, only works for music not videos [05:25] vallim, it creates a separate object when successful. where you move that can cause damage [05:26] vallim: no, compiling won;t cause your harddrive to blow up... it wont cause you to wake up with a mother in law in your bed and it won't cause WW III either :) [05:26] chaorain, imported music just fine, plays well [05:26] marcus_aurelius, so you good then? [05:26] she_dyed: it seems something screwed up on gateway configuration. checking it and thn i will get back. thx [05:27] S_A once you nail gateway you'll be fine [05:27] how do i go to full screen and come out of fulllscreen ?installed guest utils from synaptic... do i need to install guest additions in vbox too ? [05:27] she_dyed: i have a web cam connected. how do i know what it is? kinda like HDs are /media/hda, etc [05:27] chaorain, well, i wanted to import my library, with the playlist, etc. which actually worked very nicely, imported my itunes playlists and all [05:28] ok.....phoenixz......nice to meeting you......I'm going out now..... [05:28] How do I list the total number of inodes on the disk? [05:28] chaorain, i mean, it's gonna get real tedious since i've got 6400+ tracks [05:28] :-) [05:29] marcus_aurelius, ok then you need to export the itunes playlists [05:29] I'm having what seems to be DNS issues. Whenever I try to visit a page, it goes extremely slow with the initial checking. For example, Google.com takes a while to translate the DNS, but then loads quickly. What could cause this? It's not my ISP's DNS because other computers work just fine [05:29] vallim: you;re welcome [05:29] hey can some help me with my sound [05:29] plese [05:29] please [05:29] !patience | mauulate: [05:29] mauulate:: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines [05:29] lol audio is #2 hot topic [05:29] marcus_aurelius, um just a min [05:30] how do i find in what path an executable is located in ? (for example, how would i find out where 'tar' is?) [05:30] chaorain, my thoughts exactly, problem is it imports intact, so the location of the files are C:\Documents...blah blah..., not something linux or songbird will understand [05:30] jumbers, are you using tor? privoxy? [05:30] mauulate: gwhat zeemz too bee dzie problem? [05:30] cached - which tar ? [05:30] What process is "cqueue" on my Ubuntu 9.04 computer? Ubuntuusers Wiki does not know it. [05:30] Holaaa [05:30] felix_: Neither [05:30] cached - type 'which tar' [05:30] Holaa [05:30] eross: ah [05:30] !es | argius [05:30] argius: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es. [05:30] eross: thanks [05:31] lot easier than those other os's [05:31] argius: you're very welcome over here but we can only help you in english [05:31] I think the paths are reletevte(mispelled) not absolute [05:31] jumbers, i was experiencing the same problem, but only when i configure this pc to have an static internat ip, instead of using dchp [05:31] internal* [05:31] felix_: Any idea what could be causing it? [05:31] wil vbox use the computer's hardware or everything is virtualised except monitor :P ? [05:32] hello [05:32] felix_, I locked up when I launched the Terminal [05:32] !hello | img [05:32] img: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu! [05:32] #ubuntu-gt [05:32] jumbers, nope, sorry [05:32] felix_, what was themcommand? [05:33] felix_, what was the command? [05:33] Soren1, "ubiquity" === tye is now known as Jugglingtye [05:33] How do I list the total number of inodes on the disk? [05:33] I can hear like a drum sound anytime I login to my computer, what is that? [05:33] lmg: can we help you with something? [05:34] marcus_aurelius, here is one option http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=37799 [05:34] Explain me the file system concept in ubuntu 9.04 [05:34] mauulate: those are the pigmees hidden in your laptop welcomming you back to work.. [05:34] not now but maybe one day ,thanks [05:34] scream: that's hardly ever necessary. Can I ask why you think you need it? [05:34] scream, df -i [05:34] kanagaraj: whah? there is a system... thats stored files.. [05:34] kanagaraj: you are talking about ext4? [05:34] Having trouble with installation, got kernal panic unqble to mount message, and 9.04 does not een show up in grub, do I have to edit list somehow? [05:34] ahh [05:35] yes explain about that [05:35] felix_, I chose English === jao is now known as Guest72026 [05:35] what [05:35] hi guys, got a question for those that are still awake and up... when i run ettercap from terminal sudo ettercap -g it can't find my eth0. when i run from applications->system tools->ettercap - it defaults to eth0. any idea why the difference? [05:35] losher, I'm relatively new to linux, I'm reading about the filesystem, and I've just learned about inodes. I'm curious. [05:35] she_dyed: working now. interfaces files was screwed up. now workig like a charm. thx [05:35] scream: fair enough... [05:35] !java [05:35] To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository [05:35] felix_, then Chicago [05:36] whats the easies way to install the audio drivers [05:36] kanagaraj, there's some info on the ext4 system here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext4 [05:36] I am not getting any audio [05:36] chaorain, not sure if that's an option, all my music is .m4a, but i'll give it a try, thanks [05:36] thankyou [05:36] Soren1, check out the keyboard [05:36] felix_, which keyboard, just plain "USA"? [05:36] marcus_aurelius, Oh better option If you have an iPod http://www.gtkpod.org/about.html [05:36] kanagaraj: I advice against using ext4. I don't think it's stable enough yet. [05:37] Soren1, take the one that types correctly symbols ,:_?¿Ñ!"·$%/)=? etc (every symbol in his key) [05:37] sometimes when i shut down my laptop... it doesn't shut down it stops at a black screen, how can i fix/tell what is causing [05:38] ok [05:38] kanagaraj: If you're using a laptop, use ext4. it's brilliant. Super fast checks after bad shutdowns. It's pretty speedy overall. If there are any bugs against ext4, they should be in launchpad [05:38] oOarthurOo what about ext3? [05:38] Take a look through there if you're worried. But ext4 was the reason I switched over to Ubuntu from Debian... and it's been worth it so far. [05:38] ext4 likes to lose files after crash [05:39] where would errors be in an ext3 system. [05:39] I chose USA USA...........seems fine [05:39] chaorain, kinda sorta an option, but my ipod is only 8GB, and my itunes library is 30GB *sigh* [05:39] DaZ|: ohw? AFAIK, its just ext3 on steriods [05:39] I have met with a problem that is i have downloaded some packages from universe and multiverse and i have burned it in a RW cd but when i insert it there is an error message "no packages were found" [05:39] oOarthurOo, i agree with you. i did the same ;) [05:39] phoenixz: no it's not [05:39] it's not compatible with ext3 [05:40] Can someone just tell me where my shutdown error logs are :( [05:40] for EXT3 [05:40] DaZ|: didnt say compatible.. but its very very much based on it, lots of it is the same.. there are only some extensions [05:40] Felix_, is this trying to RePartition the HDD that was already Partitioned? [05:40] . [05:40] coreyman, possibly in /var/log/messages [05:40] marcus_aurelius sweet thx [05:40] I have met with a problem that is i have downloaded some packages from universe and multiverse and i have burned it in a RW cd but when i insert it there is an error message "no packages were found" [05:41] oOarthurOo, doesn't sid have ext4? [05:41] losher, is the ext3/4 journal stored in a file? One that is viewable? [05:41] Guest45171: You can't install sid. You have to install testing then upgrade... and as of... last week anyway, there was no testing installer with the ability to install to an ext4 partition [05:42] felix_, is this trying to Re-Partition the HDD that was already Partitioned? [05:42] Soren1, in the step of managing partitions, select manual. then double click the empty partition. set your preferred file system (ext3 for safety, ext4 for speed). set mount point to / and tick "format partition" [05:42] kanagaraj: apt looks in /var/cache/apt/archive for local packages, did you simply put a bunch of .deb's directly onto the cd? [05:42] Guest45171: You can convert ext3 to ext4, but I wanted to try it "pure". :) [05:42] my ubuntu wont boot because it says its missing an init= thing, what do i do? [05:42] im on a live cd with the setup open in case my install is X_X [05:42] oOarthurOo, lol well i read there's frequent lockups though [05:43] scream: great question: google says "you can use debugfs command with logdump option to view journal logs." (but they will be incomprehensible to mortals) [05:43] yes i have just burned only the packages [05:43] racecar56: you must repair grub [05:43] marcus_aurelius, Ok last idea http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-10166_7-6797559-1.html [05:43] kanagaraj: easiest solution is to move them to the directory apt looks in [05:43] losher, Inthe back of my mind, I figured the journal would be not in ASCII format that would be readable to us. :) [05:43] But tell me in brief because iam a beginer [05:44] kanagaraj: did you just download the ubuntu installation CD? [05:44] kanagaraj: or better, did you just download the live CD? [05:44] scream: by all means look at it, but don't be disappointed if you can't make sense of it... [05:44] phoenixz: no, he put some packages on a cd [05:44] no i have got cd FROM UBUNTU SHIPIT [05:44] felix_, after I click Manual do I click Forward? [05:44] kanagaraj: thats not what you said a moment ago [05:45] scream: see http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/redhat-fedora-linux-help/121074-ext3-journal.html [05:45] kanagaraj: I have met with a problem that is i have downloaded some packages from universe and multiverse and i have burned it in a RW cd but when i insert it there is an error message "no packages were found" [05:45] is that the case? [05:45] i have downloaded some mpeg codecs and other codecs to install in my system [05:45] . [05:46] kanagaraj: what is the name of the CD as shown in Places? [05:47] But there is an error message is No suitable packages where found [05:47] felix_: Soren1, in the step of managing partitions, select manual. then double click the empty partition. set your preferred file system (ext3 for safety, ext4 for speed). set mount point to / and tick "format partition".............. I can click Manual, but I do not see a place for the rest of the instructions.................................do I click forawrd after I click Manual [05:47] losher, http://jon.pastebin.com/d3b81e794 nothing really interesting :) [05:47] scream: :-) [05:47] Soren1, yes, click manual then next. then follow that instructions [05:48] k [05:48] is there a server side browser that my visitors can use? [05:48] What process is "cqueue" on my Ubuntu 9.04 computer? Ubuntuusers Wiki does not know it. [05:49] :)pls tell me i have no internet connection but i has to install codecs to hear other proprietry format songs [05:49] guys.. i had to do a hard restart of my system and I can play sound from vlc, skype, etc.... though I can still hear startup/shutdown sound. help ! [05:49] bullgard4: it's not one of the standard ones as far as I know. Can you run 'ps -axf' and pastebin the output? [05:49] bullgard4: man cqueue [05:49] its a performance app [05:50] Is the ext4 filesystem stable within ubuntu jaunty? I remember seeing a bug or two a few days ago regarding freezes. Safe to convert all partitions to ext4? [05:50] my ubuntu wont boot because it says its missing an init= thing, what do i do? [05:50] SandGorgon: your problem is what I want, lol [05:50] whatvn, why... what's up? [05:50] kanagaraj: I asked earlier, what is the name of the CD showing in "Places" menu [05:50] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/284319 [05:50] no name [05:50] meh ill just reinstall [05:50] Evan [05:51] SandGorgon: get in sound option get it works. [05:51] argh, I wish Xorg wouldn't actively REJECT keycodes it KNOWS it's received. [05:51] felix_ , Device = /dev/sda5 .........type= ext3.......... mount point = / ............... format = checked .............. size = 11GB ........... used = unknown [05:51] hi guys, need help. i try to send a data from n73 to the lenovo thinkpad r61 using ubuntu 9.04 via bluetooth. but sending is failed. from laptop to n73 data trasefer is done successfully [05:51] kanagaraj: case sensitive [05:51] (WW) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: unable to handle keycode 465 [05:51] scream: in my opinion, ext4 is not ready for prime time. Use at your own risk... [05:51] I mean, what the heck..... you see the key... so pass it on to the clients! ARGH! [05:51] Soren1, go forward. [05:51] k [05:51] It has shown NO NAME [05:51] musikgoat|main: '~$ man cqueue; No manual entry for cqueue' [05:51] Farel [05:52] losher, that is my gut feeling. I've got everything non critical on ext4 save the / filesystem, that is still ext3 [05:52] bullgard4: it may also help to pastebin the output of the command: "grep cqueue /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list" - then if a Debian package put it there, we'll know which one [05:52] hi guys, need help. i try to send a data from n73 to the lenovo thinkpad r61 using ubuntu 9.04 via bluetooth. but sending is failed. from laptop to n73 data trasefer is done successfully [05:52] kanagaraj: ok, in a terminal type: sudo cp /media/NO\ NAME/* /var/cache/apt/archives/ [05:52] felix_, "you have not selected any partitions for use as swap space. enabling swap space is recommended.................." [05:52] kanagaraj, do you want to move packages installed using synaptic from another computer ?? if yes, use APTONCD .. [05:53] scream: fair enough. as long as you understand that the data are at risk. A couple of people on this list claimed their ext4 spontaneously corrupted itself. Could've been operator error, buit who knows? [05:53] tell me in brief how to use APTONCD [05:53] yup [05:53] !who | kanagaraj [05:53] kanagaraj: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :) [05:53] Oh... I'm not converting until it is stable. [05:54] ok Soren1 , go back [05:54] kanagaraj, in the another computer, in which your frnd had installed using synaptic or apt-get install .... you can use aptoncd.. ,.,,,,, not for the ones that you have downloaded from internet via browser [05:54] felix, ok, back [05:54] !aptoncd | kanagaraj [05:54] kanagaraj: APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers - See also !offline [05:55] losher: "Warning: Bad ps syntax." PID=13 TTY=? STAT=S< COMMAND derives from [kthreadd]" [05:55] ubottu: Thankyou but tell me in brief how to use APTON CD [05:55] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) === Cueball|2 is now known as Cueball [05:56] felix_, ok, I am back to the same place [05:56] if you reinstall ubuntu (but not reformat the partition) when it says Directories containing system files (/etc, /lib, /usr, /var, ...) it will not get /home, right? [05:56] bullgard4: er, 'ps axf' [05:56] kanagaraj, install aptoncd in "another" computer that has installed packages via synaptic... then make a iso and burn to a cd..... then insert the cd to your computer...... it should say "start synaptic package manager" ...... choose that.. and synaptic would open.... from synaptic install the software that you want.. it will not download from internet.. instead uses the cd [05:57] felix_ , I am here again, Device = /dev/sda5 .........type= ext3.......... mount point = / ............... format = checked .............. size = 11GB ........... used = unknown [05:57] Soren1, in manage partitions window, you have to remove the partition if it has made. then edit it. as you are using only 10gb dedicated to ubuntu i suggest a small swap, like 1gb. you need to set up two partitions: edit the unused partition and use 9000mb for it. and use the same options i said before (/, tick). then set up another partition with the free remaining space, and use it as swap filesystem. then go forward [05:57] bullgard4: it's a kernel thread to manage workqueues [05:57] ubuntu that probably does include /home! since /home is not on its own partition, and it will format the partition! [05:58] felix_, my brain just exploded [05:58] phoenixz: so.... what should I do to reinstall + preserve /home? === ubuntu is now known as racecar56 [05:58] bullgard4, dtchen: that sounds right... [05:58] KingKimi: Thankyou i Will try and i will be back for next confuse. [05:59] phoenixz: by the way it's when you attempt to install, but you say don't format it [05:59] kanagaraj, :D good luck [05:59] racecar56, maybe dump all /home on a USB stick and start clean, could be an option [05:59] racecar56: oh if ubuntu only had native lvm support.... I don't suppose you have another partition or space left? [05:59] losher: http://paste.debian.net/36687 [05:59] racecar56: could be, but I'm not sure thats a good idea [06:00] phoenixz: i DO have a seperate windows install, as this is a old machine I use for old games and stuff [06:00] bullgard4: dtchen is right. It belongs to kthreadd. Nothing to worry about.... [06:00] when i dd an .iso to my thumb drive it is not bootable, how do I make it bootable? [06:00] racecar56: then the solution is simple, ditch the windows partition ;) [06:00] Soren1, select your partition. delete it. create an ext3 partition of 9000mb. create other partition with the free remaining space as swap. then click forward [06:00] phoenixz: -_- [06:00] phoenixz: should i move my home THERE? [06:00] dtchen: Where can I probably read more about workqueues in the Linux kernel? [06:01] phoenixz: like put /home's stuff in there [06:01] bfbf: make the partition on it active? just a guess from my side.. [06:01] felix_, I am back at prepare disk space, IDK what I am trying to do here...............felix_: Soren1, in manage partitions window, you have to remove the partition if it has made. then edit it. as you are using only 10gb dedicated to ubuntu i suggest a small swap, like 1gb. you need to set up two partitions: edit the unused partition and use 9000mb for it. and use the same options i said before (/, tick). then set up another parti [06:01] bullgard4: kernel.orgr [06:01] phoenixz: btw i wish i didnt have to use windows, all my stuff is windows only [06:01] felix_, I am not sure how [06:01] bullgard4: www.kernel.org [06:01] phoenixz: jk not all [06:01] phoenixz: Thank you. [06:01] phoenixz: i guess thats all i can do....... [06:01] does anyone know of a utility to peek inside shared objects and see what symbols they expose? [06:01] racecar56: your stuff? like what? the only stuff not really working on linux are games, still.. and even there its changing [06:02] phoenixz: yeah [06:02] phoenixz: they are _OLD_ games though [06:02] ubuntu 8.10 new install on a laptop intel 945 chipset, normal visual effects, DarkRoom theme option, all my popup notifications are two colors, is this normal? the background is half tan half grey, does not look right [06:02] racecar56: Im not really sure what you could do.. you could try to manually remove everything but /home, then rename home to /mydata.. then install WITHOUT FORMAT... but Im not sure if that works.. I'd be sure to have a backup ! :) [06:02] losher: I do not worry. I'd like to learn more about the Linux kernel. -- Thank you. [06:02] Soren1, what do you see? its your 10gb partition used or not? [06:02] http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11227 === forensicwannabe is now known as xfsmonster [06:03] phoenixz: should i move my /home to my windows partition temporarily? [06:03] racecar56: that could be a solution yeah [06:03] phoenixz: btw i am attempting a reinstall without format right now, but im wondering will it or will it not overwrite home [06:03] bullgard4: http://tldp.org/LDP/tlk/tlk.html is an online book about the linux kernel [06:03] phoenixz: ill pastebin the dialog if u want [06:04] racecar56: well, only one way to find out but if you dont have a backup, Id stop right now if I were you [06:04] phoenixz: i don't, probably all i can do is move my stuff to windows partition.... [06:04] racer56 /home is not on a separate partition? [06:04] she_dyed: on all of my others, they are [06:04] she_dyed: but this comp isn't [06:04] how do I get the ID # of a window when I only know its named ID? Does that even make sense? I need to put an avi as wallpaper with xwinwrap [06:05] racer56 is there a lot of stuff there in /home [06:05] losher: This book has been written in 1999. But at that time there was no cqueue yet. :-( [06:05] felix_, Prepare disk space / How do you want to partition disk? / Beofre = /dev/sda1 91%; free 8% ............ after dev/sda1 19% ubuntu 72% free 8% ............... Guided is checked [06:05] she_dyed: idk really [06:05] racecar56: that would be the best option yeah [06:05] dtchen: Thank you for your help. [06:05] racecar56, agree with phoenixz [06:06] bullgard4: there are more up to date books if you're up to it I believe. I'm sure amazon will have them listed [06:06] Soren1, check manual, then forward [06:06] phoenixz: idea: go to gparted and resize my main partition, make new partition in that space and move /home there. sound good? [06:06] hi [06:06] Soren1, now, what do you see? [06:06] felix_, scanning disks [06:06] phoenixz: btw the main partition is ext4 [06:06] racecar56: I think its eassier to start live CD,mount windows and your partition with /home, move /home to your windows and then start installation... [06:06] hay alguien de peru?? [06:06] I'm looking for a good MTA (or example MTA configuration) for a development server where applications may try to send mail, but the mail should simply be shunted to a debug address so it doesn't get out into the wild. any suggestions? [06:07] phoenixz: although there is one problem [06:07] losher: Right. === Cueball is now known as Cueball|2 [06:07] felix_, Preparing partitions === DaZ| is now known as DaZ [06:07] !es | joseoz [06:07] joseoz: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es. [06:07] phoenixz: if i move my stuff off of windows when install is done, then i will have to do it as root, then it will lose my ownership... [06:07] phoenixz: then ill have an install as bad as my laptop [06:08] racecar56: no, you just chown it back to your desktop user.. simple and easy [06:08] oh perhaps i should try #ubuntu-server instead. i will go there. [06:08] phoenixz: UMMMMM [06:08] phoenixz: *oops* [06:08] phoenixz: caps [06:08] phoenixz: then it will say too many arguments [06:08] racecar56: go to a command console and type "man chown" and "man chmod" [06:09] phoenixz: then i will have to get a new keyboard [06:09] phoenixz: :P [06:09] phoenixz: im in a term now... [06:09] femix, device = /dev/sda AND device = /dev/sda1; type = ntsf; size = 125GB; used = 26MB [06:09] racecar56: ah, that one.. simple solution: find . * -exec chown user:user {} \; [06:09] phoenixz: im using irssi [06:09] felix_, device = /dev/sda AND device = /dev/sda1; type = ntsf; size = 125GB; used = 26MB [06:10] racecar56: or better [06:10] phoenixz: does find include . files like .dmrc? [06:10] find /home * -exec chown user:user {} \; [06:10] phoenixz: does find include . files like .dmrc? [06:10] felix_, device = free space;size = 11GB [06:10] you basically say.. find all files and directories in /home, and for each one, execute chown user:user [06:10] racecar56: it should.. if not, try man find, to see how to include hidden files [06:10] phoenixz: and obviously i replace user with racecar56, right? [06:11] hm.... why intel gm965 graphic driver not supported in ubuntu? [06:11] racecar56: yeah, I put user there because I dunno your user name :) [06:11] phoenixz: k [06:11] !intel | xyleborus this may probably answer that [06:11] xyleborus this may probably answer that: Ubuntu 9.04 has a known regression for some Intel graphics support. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/IntelPerformance and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582 for more information. [06:11] Soren1, on device = free, single clic. then select "edit partition" (9000, ext3, /, tick format) [06:12] racecar56: and about the . files, the hidden files, I'm not sure, pleases do check that in the man find, or in the #linux channel [06:13] phoenixz: moving my home to windows [06:13] felix_: Soren1, on device = free, single clic [Only NewPartition and UndoChanges are available]. then select "edit partition" (9000, ext3, /, tick format) [06:13] phoenixz: =D that i had a really nice IDE hard drive hanging around to stick in this old computer... [06:14] racecar56: you checked first if your windows partition is big enough for your /home, to avoid a mess? [06:14] phoenixz: it supports sata but i dont have hardly any of those [06:14] phoenixz: no, oops [06:14] phoenixz: darn in [06:14] phoenixz: darn it [06:14] phoenixz: nvm its done [06:14] * phoenixz is just whistling a bit.. [06:14] hi, is the #php channel accessible? [06:15] felix_: do you mean on device = Device = /dev/sda1................., single clic [Only NewPartition and UndoChanges are available]. then select "edit partition" (9000, ext3, /, tick format) [06:15] Soren1, then clic on new partition [06:16] if there graphic driver not supported, can my ubuntu enable graphic effect without system crash? [06:16] it says the #php overflow?? [06:16] phoenixz: but there is one weird thing that i am wondering [06:16] phoenixz: why does it say my hard drive is /dev/sda yet gparted live says it is /dev/hda? [06:16] phoenixz: it as in ubuntu [06:17] <``y7> how do you release an ip address with ifconfig? [06:17] felix_, I am doing this to the 125MBone or the 11MB one? [06:17] racecar56, same thing diff names thats all [06:17] Hi, as soon as I log into ubuntu (enter user name/pass), the screen goes black and the OS stops responding. How do I troubleshoot this? [06:17] racecar56: check in a text console what you have in /dev [06:17] racecar56: sorry, gotta go now, its pas 1 here alredy [06:17] phoenixz: only a bunch of sdaX's [06:17] racecar56: Im sure other people here can assist you with the rest [06:18] phoenixz: obye [06:18] phoenixz: bye [06:18] East Coast eh phoenixz [06:18] Soren1, SELECT the free partition, then click on new [06:18] racecar56: no hda? in that case, I suppose gparted is borking up [06:18] she_dyed: More like mexico :) [06:18] cya man [06:18] whoooo... [06:19] if there graphic driver not supported, can my ubuntu enable graphic effect without system crash? can anyone help me? [06:20] felix_, primary or logical? then I put in 9000........... beginning or end? use as ext3? mount point? [06:21] Soren1, it doesnt matter, leave as default === Cueball|2 is now known as Cueball [06:22] why does ubuntu say my hard drive is /dev/sda yet gparted live says my hard drive is /dev/hda, which is proper as i have a IDE hard drive, as well as cd drievs [06:22] *drives [06:23] Hi all. Is there a way to search repositories for a package that is not in your sources list? [06:23] racecar56, its all the same thing for IDE [06:23] Soren1, use ext3 for safety or ext4 for speed. mount point should be / [06:23] to search a repository* [06:23] racecar56, you can proceed with your plan using gparted [06:23] dorkface: apt-file, http://packages.ubuntu.com, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu [06:24] she_dyed: yes, i know that they are the same drives but im curious why ubuntu things it is a SCSI/SATA as it isnt === Cueball is now known as Cueball|2 [06:24] no just because its sda doesnt mean its scsi [06:24] she_dyed: *thinks [06:24] she_dyed: k... [06:24] felix, ok, now it says: Device = /dev/sda................ Device = /devsda1 type=ntfs size=125GB used=26GB ........... Device=/dev/sda5 type=ext3 format-check size=8GB used=unknown............. Device=freespace size=2GB [06:24] its the naming convention now racecar56 [06:25] she_dyed: but anyway, why do the 2 think different? [06:25] put in another live CD of Linux there and you'll start seeing it more and more racecar56 [06:25] she_dyed: more like USB stick... my cd's are bad [06:25] racecar56, they're thinking hte same, gparted is sticking to its old way of naming drives [06:25] Hi [06:26] she_dyed: rly? ill try with another cd/stick and ill see if it says sda or hda..... === Kwitschibo_ is now known as Kwitschibo [06:26] racecar56, yeah so you can see [06:26] she_dyed: even though my modern desktop pc says sda like it REALLY is both on gparted live and ubuntu [06:27] she_dyed: which is proper as it is SATA2 [06:27] racecar56, you have gparted live? [06:27] I want to convert .dmg file to iso , there is MagicISO but it's for windows only [06:27] felix, ok, now it says: Device = /dev/sda................ Device = /devsda1 type=ntfs size=125GB used=26GB ........... Device=/dev/sda5 type=ext3 format=check size=8GB used=unknown............. Device=freespace size=2GB [06:27] she_dyed: im not on it now but yes, i have it on a cd [06:27] ok Soren1 , so you left 2gb for the swap? if NO edit the partition you have done and change the size value. if YES, set up a new partition, in the unused space [06:27] racecar56, why dont you use that then? if it calls it properly as sda [06:28] Soren1, that partition must be set to swap [06:28] she_dyed: you mean as it properly calls it as hda, and im using ubuntu because ubuntu is an installable os [06:28] felix, IDK what is going on [06:28] Could somebody recommend me an IRC client? [06:28] SavageLunch: xchat [06:29] SavageLunch: just stay away from xchat-gnome [06:29] Hhhmm [06:29] pidgin is cool [06:29] SavageLunch: xchat is da bomb [06:29] eross: pidgin as an irc client? oh come on [06:29] join #php [06:29] How do I know if I have xchat or xchat-gnome? [06:29] lol [06:29] eross: i know it can but i think it sucks at irc [06:29] hi, hellow everyone [06:30] eross: because the only way i can get an irc window up is when nickserv tells me to identify [06:30] eross: and the ctcp version thing [06:30] less manual foolery? [06:30] brb [06:31] felix_, ty for trying to help me, but IDK what I am doing so I think I will try again tomorow [06:33] i need help using and external hard drive enclusure <2.5" USB 2.0-SATA >iMicro in Ubuntu 8.10, i bought it today, i'm able to use it in another PC with XP but when i connect it in Ubuntu it says "USB Unit" recognized as /dev/sdb and nothing more, i cant mount it , fdisk /dev/sdb doesn't work [06:33] any idea ? [06:33] felix_, ty [06:35]  i need help using and external hard drive enclusure <2.5" USB 2.0-SATA >iMicro in Ubuntu 8.10, i bought it today, i'm able to use it in another PC with XP but when i connect it in Ubuntu it says "USB Unit" recognized as /dev/sdb and nothing more, i cant mount it , fdisk /dev/sdb doesn't work . any idea ? Thanks [06:36] ANYONE ? [06:36]  i need help using and external hard drive enclusure <2.5" USB 2.0-SATA >iMicro in Ubuntu 8.10, i bought it today, i'm able to use it in another PC with XP but when i connect it in Ubuntu it says "USB Unit" recognized as /dev/sdb and nothing more, i cant mount it , fdisk /dev/sdb doesn't work . any idea ? Thanks [06:36]  i need help using and external hard drive enclusure <2.5" USB 2.0-SATA >iMicro in Ubuntu 8.10, i bought it today, i'm able to use it in another PC with XP but when i connect it in Ubuntu it says "USB Unit" recognized as /dev/sdb and nothing more, i cant mount it , fdisk /dev/sdb doesn't work . any idea ? Thanks [06:36]  i need help using and external hard drive enclusure <2.5" USB 2.0-SATA >iMicro in Ubuntu 8.10, i bought it today, i'm able to use it in another PC with XP but when i connect it in Ubuntu it says "USB Unit" recognized as /dev/sdb and nothing more, i cant mount it , fdisk /dev/sdb doesn't work . any idea ? Thanks [06:36] Leomar: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [06:38] please [06:38] any help ?  i need help using and external hard drive enclusure <2.5" USB 2.0-SATA >iMicro in Ubuntu 8.10, i bought it today, i'm able to use it in another PC with XP but when i connect it in Ubuntu it says "USB Unit" recognized as /dev/sdb and nothing more, i cant mount it , fdisk /dev/sdb doesn't work . any idea ? Thanks [06:38] Leomar: stop. we can read your messages, but it is possible thet either nobody currently active knows an answer, or someone is working on finding an answer. [06:39] any body here help me with mythtv plz cuz their room almost dead [06:40] * Soren1 goes off to read more about ubiquity and XP/Ubuntu OS installs [06:40] * RHorse goes off to shower [06:40] Leomar dmesg and look at the last few lines referring to sdb [06:41] whats the command to build dependences of a certain package? [06:42] how to import key in seahorse?? [06:43] she_dyed here is it : [06:43] root@leo-desktop:~# dmesg | grep sdb [06:43] [ 121.616419] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI disk [06:43] [22871.598245] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI disk [06:43] Leomar: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [06:43] felix_apt-get build-dep [06:43] sorry for the flood [06:43] Leomar ls -l /dev/sdb* [06:43] felix_: apt-get build-dep [06:44] I have a virtual machine with intrepid, but I want to install a .deb file. I'm used to just double clicking it in order for it to install, but when I do so, it's asking for a program to open it. What program should I use? [06:44] * Soren1 's brain blows up again while reading Ubiquity [06:45] thx indus [06:45] 1 2she_dyed: root@leo-desktop:~# ls -l /dev/sdb* brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 16 2009-05-21 01:43 /dev/sdb [06:45] just it self [06:45] no sdb1 nor sdb2 etc === Cueball|2 is now known as Cueball [06:46] Leomar, got another live CD distro? [06:46] Leomar: can u ask question again === Cueball is now known as Cueball|2 [06:47] i have 7.04, i think, let me see. What is your intention [06:47] will someone link me to the simplest explanation of XP/Ubuntu installation...................... there are a million [06:47] Leomar: check lsb_release -d [06:47] paste your original question again Leomar for indus [06:47] ok [06:47] hi [06:47]  i need help using and external hard drive enclusure <2.5" USB 2.0-SATA >iMicro in Ubuntu 8.10, i bought it today, i'm able to use it in another PC with XP but when i connect it in Ubuntu it says "USB Unit" recognized as /dev/sdb and nothing more, i cant mount it , fdisk /dev/sdb doesn't work . any idea ? Thanks [06:48] my thinkpad R52 , Volume Buttons don't work with new notifications system on ubuntu 9.04 ? any solution ?! [06:48] ! work [06:48] Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too. [06:49] Leomar: is this jaunty 9.04 u using? [06:49] no, 8.04 [06:49] When are we dropping support for 8.04 again? [06:50] officially [06:50] soreau: 2011 [06:50] soreau: 3 years after its release (5 for the server edition) [06:50] Leomar: does it list under lsusb [06:50] indus: Not till 11.04? [06:50] HI [06:50] hello all [06:50] GOOD MORNING [06:51] lstarnes: Ah yes, that's what I recall [06:51] newbie question [06:51] tianchai: Hi [06:51] i want to upgrate to 9.04 that's why i'm doing the backup [06:51] mooky: welcome [06:51] how do i install a package when i dont have internet connectivity? [06:51] !ask | moolah [06:51] moolah: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [06:51] WHERE ARE LIVE [06:51] kebomix, make sure to unmute (next to vol on my stinkpad) [06:51] 你 [06:51] Leomar: its an external usb harddrive right? [06:51] can i download the .deb and use it somehow after copying to a USB key? [06:51] moolah: Through the CD or, you have to get the internet [06:51] indus: no [06:51] soreau: no its not on the cd [06:52] Leomar: try this sudo modprobe -i usb_storage [06:52] moolah: Yes you can get a deb, but it may rely on other deb packages to be installed [06:52] soreau: its for another comp thats offline, i need to install wicd on it, so it can go online [06:52] ah...damn [06:52] i can't access my shared folders on my windows machine through my home network. [06:52] she_dyed : i did , buttons do volume up and down, the notifications of them dont appear like brightness one's [06:52] so what should i do? [06:53] kebomix, oh ignore me then === Walking_Dead is now known as Guest87430 [06:53] Leomar: also try this > add line usb_storage to /etc/modules [06:53] indus: ok. i did now. No output, don't si de partitions jet [06:53] hello. when mount a nfs with 'mount -o -o soft,intr,bg,timeo=50 xxx xxx' . does the 'timeo=50' means 'timeout 50 *seconds*' ? [06:53] . [06:53] sorry, dont see the partitions jet [06:53] Leomar: try last step i said and restart pc [06:53] cg: yep, it means wait 50 seconds before attempting to mount the drive IIRC [06:54] Leomar: or wait [06:54] i can't access my shared folders on my windows machine through my home network. [06:54] ok [06:54] ziroday: thank you very much. [06:54] i'll wait [06:54] Leomar: nvm ok just restart it and see [06:54] good luck [06:54] cg: have fun! [06:54] ok i'll restart then [06:56] ziroday: another question. if i mount without option '-o soft,intr,bg,timeo=50', when the nfs server is down, and i 'cd /mount_piont' and 'ls', my terminal is blocked. and even 'fuser -k /mount_point' blocks the terminal. any solutions ? [06:57] cg: you can always try doing ctrl+c or ctrl+z [06:58] ziroday: nothing happens when Ctrl+c or ctrl+z [06:58] cg: and closing the terminal? [06:58] hey guys im wondering on how to automatically mount an external drive after suspend ? [06:58] cg, if you can find xkill in utilities menu or something [06:58] ubuntu 8.10 new install on a laptop intel 945 chipset, normal visual effects, DarkRoom theme option, all my popup notifications are two colors, is this normal? the background is half tan half grey, does not look right [06:59] ziroday: of course i can close it by force. the problem is, the mount piont is still there, and any program goes into it will be blocked, and so does the terminal [06:59] cg: sorry I don't know [07:00] cg: check out 'man 5 nfs'. That timeout is *tenths* of a second, and its timeout until retry, so you may need retrans=1 or some such [07:00] ziroday: that's all right. thanks again. i will keep google-ing it until i got an answer [07:01] indus: i restarted the system, i can see the HD in lsusb => Bus 005 Device 003: ID 152d:2338 JMicron Technology Corp. / JMicron USA Technology Corp. JM20337 Hi-Speed USB to SATA & PATA Combo Bridge, but cant mount it [07:01] sudo mount -a [07:01] losher: ok, thanks! and i hope you can answer me the other question about the blocked terminal [07:01] i do: ls -l /dev/sdb* and cant see sdb1 or nothing [07:01] Leomar: sudo mount -a [07:01] presently i'm running ubuntu 8.04, i want upgrade into ubuntu 9.04. What is the best should i do. should i fresh install it? [07:02] klenix: take back up and upgrade from update manager [07:02] cg: if you get the parameters right, it shouldn't block. See retrans & retry\ [07:02] Leomar ls -rt /dev give anything? [07:03] losher: yes, you are right. the problem is , if someone forgot to add the proper options, it will block, and how to solve it? i don't want to restart the server [07:03] Leomar: type mount in terminal and paste in pastebin [07:03] Leomar: contents that is [07:03] cg: you could just set the timeout lower... [07:04] raylu: ok, thanks, but what if it had ALREADY happened .. [07:04] i did: sudo mount -a, nothing [07:04] cg: open a new shell and kill ls, i suppose [07:04] Leomar: paste output of mount [07:05] !paste > Leomar [07:05] Leomar, please see my private message [07:05] indus: can i update directly into 9.04? or should be 8.10 first? [07:05] raylu: ls doesn't answer to the 'kill' even 'kill -9' by root [07:05] /dev/sda2 on / type ext3 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro) [07:05] proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) [07:05] /sys on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) [07:05] varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=0755) [07:05] varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=1777) [07:05] udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755) [07:05] Leomar: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [07:05] devshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw) [07:05] devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620) [07:05] lrm on /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/volatile type tmpfs (rw) [07:05] securityfs on /sys/kernel/security type securityfs (rw) [07:05] cg: if someone *forgot* the right options, then no. In that case, the whole design of nfs is that it will block. The options are on the client anyway, not the server. You can't expect miracles [07:05] binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) [07:05] gvfs-fuse-daemon on /root/.gvfs type fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon (rw,nosuid,nodev) [07:05] sorry [07:05] cg: kill -9 isn't even passed to the program; the kernel takes it off the run queue. if that doesn't work, you did it wrong :D [07:05] losher: ok. this is good ! [07:05] klenix: type sudo update-manager -d [07:06] klenix: but i recommend a fresh install in your case since u r on 8.04 === Cueball|2 is now known as Cueball [07:06] raylu: things that are in disk wait can't even be KILLed... [07:06] losher: but they can be TERMed [07:06] indus: thanks, let me try. [07:06] indus, klenix: no. You need to go from 8.04 to 8.10 to 9.04. Also, you don't need to do sudo update-manager -d [07:06] will someone link me to the simplest explanation of XP/Ubuntu installation...................... there are a million [07:06] raylu: losher : so it will block when the server restart. [07:07] !dualboot | Soren1 [07:07] Soren1: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot [07:07] RHorse: "ls -rt /dev", ls -rt /dev/sdb just: /dev/sdb it gives a lot of things [07:07] raylu: I doubt you can TERM them either, actually.... [07:07] Flannel: hardy is LTS and will only offer the next LTS by default behaviour [07:07] losher: i'm sure you can [07:07] indus: -d won't fix that [07:07] losher: kill -9 should always work [07:07] raylu: no, it's not true [07:07] indus: What you do need to do, is go to software sources and choose "notify me of all updates" not just LTS (third, fourth tab?) [07:07] Flannel: hmm i guess [07:07] ty Flannel [07:07] er [07:07] klenix: What you do need to do, is go to software sources and choose "notify me of all updates" not just LTS (third, fourth tab?) [07:07] cg: the client will block *until* the server restarts.... [07:07] raylu: proccess in "UNINTERRUPTABLE" state does not answer any signals [07:08] Flannel: ya so instead of going through 8.10 and 9.04 go directly [07:08] losher: lol , yes [07:08] klenix: then the next time you use update-manager, it'll notify you that you can upgrade to 8.10 [07:08] cg: kill -9 isn't sent as a signal [07:08] indus: No. You don't want to do that. Nor will update-manager -d do that. [07:08] raylu: it is [07:08] root@leo-desktop:~# mount /dev/sda2 on / type ext3 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro) proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) /sys on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=0755) varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=1777) udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755) devshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw) devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620) lrm on /lib/modules/2.6.2 [07:08] cg: the kernel takes it off the run queue [07:08] klenix: Flannel:yes sorry my mistake [07:08] !paste | Leomar [07:08] Leomar: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) [07:09] Leomar: pastebin is an easier place to put it (and have it still be legible, and easier for you, etc) [07:09] Flannel: klenix:changing sources list to jaunty does work though :) [07:09] how stupid/smart is it to resize (larger) the partition that you're currently working from? [07:09] <|lekarousar|> guys i need help with jaunty, can anyone help please? [07:09] !worksforme | indus, klenix [07:09] indus, klenix: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/ [07:09] cg: http://www.manpagez.com/man/2/sigaction/ [07:09] e-1: beyond stupid [07:09] The sa_mask field specified in act is not allowed to block SIGKILL or SIGSTOP. Any attempt to do so will be silently ignored. [07:09] http://paste.ubuntu.com/176941/ [07:09] cg: so i meant kill, not term === Cueball is now known as Cueball|2 [07:09] indus: No, please don't recommend that here. Only supported upgrades are from version to the next version (and LTS to LTS). Please don't recommend otherwise. [07:09] raylu: 'kill' just tell kernel to send 'sigkill' to the process, and the kernel terminate the process if it receives a 'SIGKILL' [07:10] Flannel: well ok [07:10] cg: oh... you're right :P [07:10] klenix: do a fresh install === Daemon_ is now known as Xavierg2003 [07:10] klenix: download 9.04 and u can install [07:10] Flannel: that way ?? [07:10] klenix: no, don't do a fresh install. Upgrading will work just fine. [07:10] The backend took too much time to process the synchronous request - you need to fork! anyone know what that means? [07:10] Flannel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/176941/ [07:11] Leomar: yes [07:11] ok [07:11] raylu: we're having terminological issues: you can always kill -9 a process but that doesn't mean it goes away. If it's in disk-wait it won't go away. It it isn't reaped it will become a zombie & sit there... [07:11] hello everyone [07:11] losher: yeah, turns out you're right [07:11] anyone know how to import a key with Seahorse and have that key be *my* key as opposed to someone else's key? [07:11] Anyone? [07:11] raylu: had to happen eventually... [07:11] losher: :( [07:12] cellofellow: get the private key [07:12] losher: you are all right but the 'zombie' it's an "UNINTERRUPTABLE" state [07:12] what is this SWAP stuff in a Dual Boot [07:12] Where do i report a problem when it asks me to report the error details? [07:12] !bugs | Xavierg2003 [07:12] Soren1: swap = virtual memory [07:12] Xavierg2003: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug » If that fails, you can report bugs manually at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug - Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots [07:12] <|lekarousar|> i upgraded to jaunty and now it says displayconfig-gtk isn't installed, and there's no internet either, as it can't recognize my ethernet, help please? [07:12] raylu: oh, shucks, only have the public key [07:12] cellofellow: you lost your own private key? do you have the revoke key? [07:13] Xavierg2003: it is also a good idea to search for an existing bug before filing a new one [07:13] The backend took too much time to process the synchronous request - you need to fork! [07:13] cg: if it's waiting for disk i/o, I think that will happen. No cure except for disk i/o to complete, or a reboot [07:13] Thats what it said [07:13] i use my laptop windows media center with tv tuner and use extender on my xbox360 to view the tv. now i am ready to use my ubuntu computer. anyone know of a software that will do what windows media center does so my xbox will reconize it/ [07:13] raylu: revoke key? [07:13] is there away to require a password to start firefox in ubuntu? [07:13] it said report that [07:13] cellofellow: a revocation certificate. Have you published your key anywhere? [07:13] raylu: hey, I kept my SSH key, but I guess I left my PGP key behind. [07:13] I just upgraded to 9.04 and now flash isn't working at all [07:13] So do i just email that to them or..... [07:13] losher: yes [07:13] Flannel: yeah, on the pgp.com keyserver and the ubuntu.com keyserver. [07:13] Brando753: I'm not sure. Why? [07:14] |lekarousar| output of ifconfig? [07:14] so people dont go on it :P [07:14] cellofellow: If you don't have a recovation certificate (assuming you lost your private key), those keys will be there (and useless) forever. [07:14] Brando753: you could uninstall it [07:14] drat [07:14] <|lekarousar|> RHorse: only gives the lo [07:14] sometimes its neccesary, hence the admin password [07:14] cellofellow: That's why the first thing you do after generating a key is generate a recovation certificate ;) [07:15] raylu, Swap = slower "RAM" on the HDD? does it need to be in the middle of the XP partition and the Ubuntu partition? [07:15] Flannel: ok [07:15] cellofellow: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto [07:15] <|lekarousar|> RHorse: I tried modifying the /etc/network/interfaces and it doesn't work [07:15] indus: so i did what you told me i restarted the system in i can get lsusb: http://paste.ubuntu.com/176945/ ; dmesg | grep sdb: http://paste.ubuntu.com/176946/ ; dmesg -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/176947/ [07:15] Leomar: hang on [07:16] Flanel: indus: leomar: sorry i'm a little bit confuse about this LTS upgrade. so What should i do? [07:16] |lekarousar| output of lspci show ahything? Card recognized? [07:16] ok [07:16] klenix: why do you want to upgrade ? 8.04 giving any problems? [07:16] Soren1: it can be anywhere [07:17] <|lekarousar|> RHorse: yes, both my ehternet controller and Network controller are installed [07:17] raylu: and Ubuntu needs atleast 10GB to be happy? [07:17] klenix: go to software sources, and on one of the tabs theres a spot where you can tell it how you want to upgrade. You want to upgrade from 8.04 (LTS) to 8.10 (non-LTS). The default in LTS releases is to only mention LTS upgrades (which, as of now is planned for 10.04). So you need to tell it that you really do want to upgrade to a 'regular old release'. [07:17] Soren1: not of swap, but yes [07:17] Soren1: it's possible to install with less, but not recommended [07:18] so if I want to run programs too, then I should have 20GB for ubuntu? [07:18] indus: Not big problem. but it has better broadband connection for me, here. [07:18] Soren1: 10 [07:18] |lekarousar| try sudo ifconfig eth0 [07:18] Soren1: programs usually won't take up more than 10gb. where do you plan on storing files? [07:18] indus: busy / [07:19] indus: busy ? [07:19] #webkit-efl [07:19] <|lekarousar|> RHorse: says eth0: error fetching interface information: Device not found [07:19] hi, how do i make the number of desktops permanent on kde. It keeps reverting to the previous settings [07:20] |lekarousar| try sudo ifconfig eth1 [07:20] Leomar: sorry was on another irc [07:20] raylu: I have a 120GB HDD, but I am very very new to Ubuntu and only want to use it once and a while. I originally partitioned it as 110GB for XP and 10GB blank to be used for Ubuntu [07:20] |lekarousar|: you should revert your interfaces file. also, ifconfig -a and lspci -v may be of use [07:20] i use my laptop windows media center with tv tuner and use extender on my xbox360 to view the tv. now i am ready to use my ubuntu computer. anyone know of a software that will do what windows media center does so my xbox will reconize it/ [07:20] Leomar: use pastebin for output of this sudo fdisk -l [07:21] flanel: so i need upgrade into 8.10 than 9.04, isn't it. [07:21] raylu: but now I know I need 10GB just to keep Ubuntu, alone, happy and I need a swap partition [07:21] Soren1: ok. 10GB should be fine. if you have large/many files, you can always just store them somewhere on the xp drive [07:21] Soren1: how much ram do you have? [07:21] 1GB :( [07:21] Soren1: you don't need swap [07:21] Brando753, iirc theres a firefox -profilemanager? see if it 's applicable [07:22] klenix: Flannel:why should he go through 2 upgrades ?? huh [07:22] Soren1: that's good i think [07:22] Brando753, am just not sure how restrictive it can be [07:22] Soren1: i'd recommend 1GB of swap and 9GB for / [07:22] klenix: just download and install 9.04 [07:22] raylu: why does he need swap? [07:22] !pastebin [07:22] pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) [07:22] DaZ: for suspend [07:22] with 1gb i'm using like 15megs of it [07:22] quit [07:22] indus: ok, i'm going to [07:23] DaZ: and it's not hard to use more than 1GB of memory [07:23] well, it's hard enough for me ; [07:23] why isn't there a way to put XP on one end of the HDD and Ubuntu on the other end and tell them to use parts in the middle as needed until they both fill it up [07:23] Soren1: you can... like i said, you can put files on the xp partition [07:23] <|lekarousar|> RHorse: no luck [07:23] Soren1: you can use windows partition in ubuntu [07:23] indus: ok i will. thanks. [07:24] Soren1: it's laptop or desktop? [07:24] klenix: Upgrading will be easier. [07:24] (repasting my question) how do i make the number of desktops permanent on kde. It keeps reverting to the previous settings [07:24] so Ubuntu is more than happy to write on an XP partitioned space on the HDD [07:24] indus: Because there's absolutely no reason to spend all that time reconfiguring everything, backing up your data, etc. [07:24] laptop [07:24] Ethan``: They may know more in #kubuntu [07:24] Flannel: who says you need to reconfigure [07:24] Soren1: it's not more than happy, perse, but it'll do it :D [07:24] thanks [07:24] Gateway 4520 ...............P O S [07:24] indus: Erm, there's things called settings. [07:25] indus: sudo fdisk -l => http://paste.ubuntu.com/176951/ [07:25] lol, raylu, and it can run programs from there too? [07:25] Flannel:well a little time spent on that is better than having to sit through 2 upgrades [07:25] Soren1: not well, and not easily sometimes [07:25] Laptop = Gateway 4520 ...............P O S [07:25] raylu: meaning? [07:26] Soren1: windows binaries and linux binaries are not compatible with each other [07:26] indus: Upgrades won't take that long this time of year, assuming he's on a reasonable sized connection. He'll have to download a comperable amount anyway to be up to date on Jaunty. [07:26] Flannel: ok ill let him decide now :) [07:26] * Soren1 looks at raylu as his brain explodes [07:26] Ummm hello [07:26] Leomar: wait [07:26] Soren1: wine tries to emulate the windows api, but it's broken here and there and there are always issues running windows apps on not-windows (the filesystem is layed out completely differently, for example). don't worry about running windows apps for now [07:27] Flannel: I installed kde on ubuntu. so shouldnt i ask this question on here? [07:27] that is the 3rd or fourth explosion tonight ;) [07:27] if i install ubuntu inside windows is it going to run in a vm? [07:27] badfish69: if you install ubuntu inside a windows in a vm, it will run in a vm... your question doesn't make much sense [07:28] Ethan``: #kubuntu knows more about KDE. The only difference between Ubuntu and Kubuntu is the GUI (they're the same distro). Obviously your question is KDE specific, and while you're more than welcome to ask your question here, you'll likely have more people who know more about it in #kubuntu [07:28] Hello all.. I'm having some serious usability issues with ubuntu 8.04 and 9.04 when it comes to disk IO ruining interactivity. Is this a known issue? But #131094 does not seem to be getting any attention... [07:28] why was I using ubiquity to set up my partitions and swap? [07:28] badfish69: using wubi? [07:28] lol okay [07:28] yeah [07:28] Can any help me? [07:28] its just that no one answered me yet, on kubuntu [07:28] badfish69: I don't think that's an actual vm [07:28] is it just a utility? [07:29] How can i install flash on 64 bit ubuntu? [07:29] indus: if i do fresh install it is faster than upgrade, isn't it. But can i still keep my old application? [07:29] elliotf: actually, i have that problem too [07:29] Soren1, badfish69: I believe it creates a dual-boot solution [07:29] klenix: nooooooo [07:29] raylu, it's really bad.. under very simple operations.. [07:29] H [07:29] klenix: you lose all data with fresh upgrade [07:29] i can give it a shot i guess [07:29] elliotf: i only have problems when something is reading tons of files [07:29] worst case i have to reinstall w7 [07:29] klenix: it formats partition [07:29] klenix: i think take flannels advice [07:30] elliotf: you can try ionice, but it didn't do much for me [07:30] badfish69: i don't recommend wubi [07:30] copying six 1.5gb files across disks makes it grind to a halt [07:30] why is that? [07:30] raylu, that's not an option on my servers. [07:30] klenix: that way everything you saved remains same [07:30] oh dear [07:30] ive already started [07:30] raylu, have you seen the load average climb when the problem occurs? [07:30] elliotf: didn't pay much attention when it happened. i just tried to ionice it [07:30] elliotf: why isn't ionice an option? [07:31] klenix: The difference in download sizes is likely something around 700MB. (700MB more if you upgrade twice) [07:31] raylu, I *really* don't want to ionice postgres. :) [07:31] raylu, it's a server, it should be able to use the CPU and disks at the same time. [07:31] elliotf: ah [07:33] anyone out there with a lot of patience and good at hand holding wanna help me with increasing the size of the Ubuntu partition, from 10GB to 20GB and making a swap partition? I do not understand Ubuntu at all, and have limited knowledge of Win.... [07:33] raylu, ah, it looks like https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/131094 is getting some attention again [07:33] yay! [07:33] Soren1: i still think you'd be fine with 10GB for now [07:33] k [07:34] flannel: indus : if i do fresh install, i will use live cd, it's faster. But i'm worry about my previous setting and application. [07:34] klenix: what application? [07:34] raylu, are you the person described above? lol [07:34] klenix: you'll overwrite all of them. [07:34] klenix: Data too. [07:34] klenix: yeah flannel is right . You lose all previous data [07:35] suspend doesnt seem to work on my system [07:35] any help please [07:35] tonyyarusso did you get answered? [07:35] lol, guess not [07:35] Soren1: not quite, sorry [07:35] lol [07:35] np [07:36] Soren1: but why do you feel 10GB isn't enough? [07:36] does anybody knows a console torrent client that supports udp? [07:36] <|lekarousar|> RHorse: when i lshw -c network: i get unclaimed tags for my NICs. know how to fix that? [07:36] raylu: I have no idea, I will leave it at whatever it is [07:36] indus: application i installed via terminal or synaptic, [07:37] raylu: I am not fond of just meeting minimum requirments [07:37] hello i'm on 9.10, can't use touchpad double click after latest upgrade!!!! [07:37] Soren1: you can increase it later [07:37] |lekarousar| sorry, not familiaar w/ that [07:37] k [07:38] hello, how do i get suspend to work on my system. right now the monitor turns off, but cpu keeps running [07:38] Siegfried: deluge... sort of [07:39] klenix: dont use a live cd [07:39] klenix: upgrade from update-manager [07:39] raylu, oh thanks i completely forgot this one, i'll try! [07:39] ubuntu 8.10 new install on a laptop intel 945 chipset, normal visual effects, DarkRoom theme option, all my popup notifications are two colors, is this normal? the background is half tan half grey, does not look right [07:39] Siegfried: it's not exactly cli [07:39] klenix: from 8.04 to 8.10 then to 9.04 [07:39] Siegfried: wait, it does indeed have a console interface [07:39] klenix: is that understood? [07:40] Siegfried: but you probably want to use either the gtk or web frontend. the torrent client runs as a daemon and you control it with a client [07:40] Siegfried: at the moment, i have the daemon running on a headless server and i connect to it with the gtk client from here [07:41] !suspend | Ethan`` [07:41] Sorry, I don't know anything about suspend [07:41] :( [07:41] Hello all, I've been messing with my GRUB settings lately, and although I managed to get a splashscreen on it, the Ubuntu Bootup animation(the loading up bar?) seems to have broken. The bootup is now text based. Is there anyway to fix this? [07:42] Ethan``: suspend has always been sort of hit or miss. not much that you can do about it that i know of [07:42] Tasbuntu: show us the boot line? [07:42] the boot line? o: [07:42] Oh dear, I think I stepped into uncharted territory yet again xD; What is the boot line? [07:43] hello everyone [07:43] Flannel: indus: if i do with live cd will be faster but i will lost all my previous setting and application. With normal upgrade will be longer for me but save my setting. [07:43] klenix: I'm not sure an upgrade will really take that much longer. [07:43] More specifically, I guess I should ask how do I GET to the bootline? [07:44] klenix: Not that I time them in my spare time. But the rest of it is correct. With a reinstall, you get a fresh system, as if nothing had been there before. With an upgrade, you keep your settings, the other programs you install, your files, etc. [07:44] I am trying a Dual Boot install...............I am at PreparePartitions........... I see: Device=/dev/sda1 ...........Device:/dev/sda1 Type:ntfs Size:120GB Used 26GB............Device:freespace 11GB [07:44] Tasbuntu: the line that starts with "kernel" is what i meant [07:44] Tasbuntu F6 when tthe grub menu appears. [07:44] yeah, when I upgraded to 9.04, I didn't lose any files or settings [07:44] Allright. So I go do that, and how do I get you the results exactly? [07:45] It just copies the whole thing when I do F6? [07:45] by that I mean, I upgraded with the upgrade manager [07:45] Tasbuntu: no.. just get it out of your menu.lst [07:45] update* [07:45] sorry [07:45] Flannel : indus : yes, i 'll use upgrade. thanks for advice. [07:45] oh. Allright [07:46] can i please have the name of the best program to extract sequential .rar files (jaunty) [07:46] <``y7> where can i go into ubuntu to make sure the system isn't going to shutdown or go into sleep mode after x minutes of idle time? [07:46] Burlynn: a screenshot may help [07:46] chris, I think ark will work [07:46] taylu : suspend used to work fine till i upgraded something [07:47] raylu* [07:47] Ethan``: the kernel. try an older version of it [07:47] cool thanks, i haven't installed linux in a while lol, a little rusty.. [07:47] lool [07:47] http://pastebin.com/f74e4828a [07:47] Here you go guys. Sorry about being so dense, I'm really just learning Ubuntu as I go along xD; [07:47] can i get it to work again...do you know anythin [07:47] Ethan``: you probably still have it, actually. aptitude search linux-image [07:47] Ethan``: or ls /boot [07:48] Tasbuntu: do you need vga=795 to boot? [07:48] brb [07:49] I...have no idea, frankly. I'm still pretty much lost in terms of coding and the terminal. [07:50] thanks, raylu [07:50] how can I play chess over a network? [07:50] oh, splash vga=795 [07:50] I think that's the splash page for the main menu [07:50] when I click on "Network game" I get a dialog saying profile: disconnected [07:51] I'm running a Triple boot system, so Grub automatically boots into the menu, hence the splash page. [07:51] Tasbuntu: by default, you only have splash and quiet [07:51] Tasbuntu: so i assume you added vga=795 yourself [07:52] how do you see what video driver you're using in 9.04? xorg.conf doesn't contain anything useful [07:52] Well, I don't recall having personally opened the menu.lst and edited THIS, but I used start-up manager to customize the grub menu, so possibly that could have done it, yes [07:52] I am trying a Dual Boot install...............I am at PreparePartitions........... Device=/dev/sda1 ...........Device:/dev/sda1 Type:ntfs Size:120GB Used 26GB............Device:freespace 11GB................. what is the next step [07:52] tlarson: glxinfo or xdpyinfo may be of help [07:52] Tasbuntu: i'd take out vga=795 from defoptions and then run "sudo update-grub" [07:53] Allright, I'll try that, thank you [07:53] what about initrd, though? [07:53] Tasbuntu: what about it? [07:53] Well, you said only splash and quiet were there by default, didn't you? [07:54] Tasbuntu: initrd is on its own line === Cueball|2 is now known as Cueball [07:54] Ah, allright O: [07:54] Thank you [07:54] Tasbuntu: that specifies the strange strange ramfs thingy [07:54] which i have yet to understand [07:54] xD' Then I clearly have no hopes of that yet [07:54] I'm installing netbook remix via GUI on an Eee 1000 HE. I shortened the Windows partition as well as the backup partition to make room for the upcoming Ubuntu partition. However, now I'm stuck with two seperate chunks of unpartitioned space marked "unusable." I'm kind of at a loss of what I should do next. [07:55] I'll go try what you said, thank you :3 [07:55] is there a dual boot channel that would be better to go to? [07:56] Soren1: not really [07:56] I have a user that likes to keep many folders open in Nautilus, including folders where she is downloading files with Bit Torrent. This causes Nautilus to constantly update the thumbnails and use 60% CPU power. How can I set Nautilus not to update thumbnails unless user presses refresh? [07:56] KitNezumi: what says its unusable? [07:56] raylu: ok, I'll check back later for help [07:56] raylu: the term "unusable" appears under the device column for the two presumably now-empty spaces [07:57] Soren1: the next step is to create a 1gb swap and 10gb ext3 partition. isn't there na option to do that automatically? [07:57] KitNezumi: in the installer? [07:57] raylu: do you think that if the [OpenGL version string] is "1.4 Mesa 7.4 [07:57] Salve [07:57] raylu: yes, in the installer [07:57] raylu: would that mean that i'm running the generic mesa drivers? [07:58] hey guys, does anyone know a script for installing gtk gnutella through terminal? I have tried sudo apt get install gtk gnutella, and I have tried to install it through add or remove programs, but its always the old version, and it will not work. before I re-installed ubuntu, my friend helped me install it, he told me step by step the script [07:58] I was just wondering if anyone else knew [07:58] KitNezumi: this is the netbook installer right? you can't really run any apps, can you? === Cueball is now known as Cueball|2 [07:59] tlarson: i have no idea, sorry. try grepping for driver names. also, if you haven't modified your xorg.conf, X -configure may be revealing [07:59] raylu: thanks [07:59] raylu: i'm not sure if i'm understanding you correctly. this is the installer that i ran from the desktop when running URN in liveCD mode [08:00] KitNezumi: urn = ? [08:00] raylu: sorry. Ubuntu Netbook Remix (got the acronym wrong). I did manage to run some applications in LiveCD mode [08:00] barbarian_sargon, try #gtk-gnutella [08:00] ok, thanks [08:00] KitNezumi: oh. my only experience with it has been a friend running the installer. i do remember the other option, but we never tried it [08:01] KitNezumi: i'd close the installer and run "gksu gparted" [08:01] how to make the folders in places display as a menu? [08:01] KitNezumi: i never really liked the installer's partitioner [08:01] raylu: i'll give it a shot. thank you. [08:02] nibsa1242: you can disable thumbnails in the preferences, apparently [08:02] O: Well, I'm back [08:03] Raylu, thanks for the tip, deleting that line didnt hurt anything so it removed some useless coding from Grub, however it didn't fix my problem. [08:03] raylu the thumbnails would be ok, but I don't see why it needs to constantly update them and heat up the computer and kill the performance [08:04] ? [08:04] nibsa1242: you could run nautilus with a high nice. but things like that are the reason i avoid guis :P [08:04] Tasbuntu: er... show me your menu.lst now? [08:05] so is anyone running the new 9.04? [08:05] I am. It runs pretty much fine on my system. [08:05] http://pastebin.com/f2a5d1872 [08:06] yeah, I like it [08:06] Except when I screw up ie right now [08:06] raylu: it already runs at nice 19 on my system, but its constant running then causes massive amounts of swapping and slow down. [08:06] I kinda want 8.04 back on here, but my cd drive wont read burnt or blank discs for some reason [08:06] Also raylu, pastebin link is back up there. http://pastebin.com/f2a5d1872 [08:06] repost [08:06] lol, I know exactly what you mean tasbuntu [08:07] nibsa1242: that sounds related to elliotf's issue earlier. [08:07] raylu: its not my issue... I just use the terminal, but one of the users in my house is having this issue because she won't close nautilus windows. [08:07] installed Ubuntu Jaunty on my T30 Thinkpad and now have no sound [08:07] xD Oh, I rather enjoy the whole mess. Plus I'm learning a bit more pretty much all the time. [08:07] zethero1, you might need oem audo drivers [08:07] how do i install all the C programming man pages? [08:08] how to make the folders in places display as a menu? [08:08] i dont even have a man page for malloc() [08:08] does ubuntu 8.10 support the ttyS3 by default? [08:08] Tasbuntu: hrm. no idea then. by the way, the next time the kernel gets upgraded, update-grub is going to be run and vga=795 will be added back in because you didn't remove it from defoptions [08:08] I have a friend who is great with linux, he has been teaching me a little bit here and there [08:08] O; How do I update that? [08:08] hskill: manpages-posix-dev [08:08] Tasbuntu: look for defoptions in menu.lst [08:08] Allright [08:09] By the way, is the bootup animation screen even related to Grub? [08:09] Tasbuntu: not really [08:09] barbarian_sargon: why? it was working perfectly in 7.10 [08:09] Tasbuntu: that's usplash [08:09] I'm talking about the animations with the bars that fill up and empty out on bootup/shutdown [08:09] Well, that's been my problem all along, so no wonder xD; [08:09] zethero1: pulseaudio has been introduced since then [08:09] raylu what about just 'manpages-dev'? [08:09] hello.. how do i control which processes start up when i boot ubuntu? [08:10] dyf: update-rc.d [08:10] raylu: ok so I told it to only show thumbnails of files less than 100kb, testing to see if it'll listen [08:10] I am not sure zethero1, I was just making a suggestion. I would like to help you further, but alas, I am but a learner myself [08:10] i wanted some help with XIRR and IRR is there a community here that can help me with that ? [08:10] So, how do I edit usplash settings? [08:10] dyf: Try System>Pref>Startup Applications [08:10] Or reset usplash to default? [08:10] How can I effectively replace swfdec with the non free plugin? I don't like how it is displayed, and the volume bar doesn't work on videos. [08:10] hskill: manpages-posix-dev suggests it, so it should pull it in [08:10] In firefox.... [08:11] hskill: but yeah, you actually want manpages-dev [08:11] raylu: nope, stupid thing is still indexing >300MB files [08:11] dyf: Install ubuntu tweak [08:11] raylu: argh [08:11] drewlahooz: i'm on fluxbox, do you know the command to start that application? [08:12] plaseo: the name sounds scary [08:12] raylu: ok turned off thumnails, now it seems ok [08:12] i don't wanna mess up my system, just turn off a few processes at start up [08:12] nibsa1242: <100k didn't work? [08:12] dyf: No, I'm sorry [08:12] dyf: login or bootup? [08:12] dyf: just moved from windows to ubuntu not scary at all, its a great program with many functions [08:12] raylu: no, it didn't listen OR was polling the files to see how large they were [08:12] Uh, guys, if I install splashy will it uninstall usplash completely or do I get to choose between the two? [08:12] raylu: boot up, like i wanna turn of cups cuz i don't have a printer [08:13] does ubuntu 8.10 support the ttys4 (=COM5) by default? [08:13] i wanna make my system lighter basically [08:13] dyf: update-rc.d -f cupsd remove [08:13] raylu: remember we are talking about a Bit Torrent download folder, so the files are constantly changing in size as they grow [08:13] raylu: can i list what i can remove with update-rc.d? [08:13] nibsa1242: they shouldn't. good clients will pre-allocate [08:14] dyf: ls /etc/init.d [08:14] raylu: cool, thanks [08:14] dyf: i'm not sure the command i gave you was entirely correct; not in ubuntu at the moment [08:14] is ubuntu 7.04 and 7.10 lts? [08:14] does ubuntu 8.10 support the "ttys4 (=COM5)" by default? [08:14] raylu: that would be nice, but transmission doesn't do it that way... and that is what is on her computer [08:14] dyf: but the manpage/help is short [08:14] nibsa1242: transmission is... kinda fail [08:15] how to make the folders in places display as a menu? [08:15] barbarian_sargon: nope. sorry [08:15] I was just wondering [08:15] so 8.04 is pretty much the only lts version out right now? [08:15] raylu: its the default app, that is what she is using... I get get something else and install it, for the future. [08:15] barbarian_sargon: i believe there's only ever one lts out [08:15] raylu: but I still see ALSA here ... === Kapputtgarter is now known as Putt [08:15] zethero1: yep. [08:16] when was 7.04 and 7.10 released? [08:16] zethero1: my understanding is pulseaudio->alsa->...stuff [08:16] ok i'll change my question: [08:16] barbarian_sargon: 04/07 and 10/07, of course [08:16] ok. I was just wondering [08:16] how do I re-compile kernel to support multi-com-port including COM 5? [08:16] I get it now [08:17] !kernel | cyberjorge [08:17] cyberjorge: The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - See also: /msg ubottu stages [08:17] im a noobie [08:17] barbarian_sargon: it's ok. i think the version numbering is horrible and confusing [08:17] raylu: thanks for that, and for the warning, but this is my only chance to make my device to run [08:18] cyberjorge: good luck [08:18] Uh, how do I install Splashy? [08:18] raylu: by the way do you have an idea if "ttys4 (=COM5)" is supported by default in 8.10 [08:18] Tasbuntu: usplash? [08:18] cyberjorge: no idea, sorry :P [08:18] Tasbuntu: why do you want splashy? [08:18] :( [08:19] ciao all [08:19] anyone can help me with XIRR vs IRR methods and how to calculate them i [08:19] Well, you know the uSplash bar thing when Ubuntu is booting up? [08:19] raylu: what do you think of deluge? I think I used that in the past but can't remember... too many BT clients [08:19] Well, that broke and now the bootup is text based for some reason. [08:20] Tasbuntu: okay, installing splashy isn't going to fix that [08:20] nibsa1242: i use it currently :D [08:20] O: [08:20] Damn [08:20] Dont suppose you know what would? [08:20] nibsa1242: but i have a machine that runs all the time and torrents. i use this machine to control it, so deluge fits my needs [08:20] Tasbuntu: haha, I don't sorry :) [08:20] do you guys call windows winblows? [08:20] barbarian_sargon: no [08:20] 'Daw [08:20] my friend who taught me about ubuntu does [08:21] nibsa1242: also, it sorts torrents by tracker domain, something nothing else does. transmission sorts them the worst of all, though [08:21] Barbarian, it's called fanaticism. It's a common basis people use for not having to think. [08:21] Tasbuntu: thinking is overrated [08:22] Maybe so === Cueball|2 is now known as Cueball [08:22] Anyway; I don't suppose anyone does know how to fix the bootup animations? [08:22] lolcopter [08:23] penguin pride [08:23] qubits: can we help you with something? [08:23] how to make the folders in places display as a menu? [08:23] Sure man [08:23] You can bring back my titlebars [08:24] plaseo: open the file manager, drag the folder you want onto the places area [08:24] less is more, but more is more than more is, so more is less than less, so use more less if you want less more [08:24] qubits: do metacity --replace === zamba_ is now known as zamba [08:24] No effect [08:24] tecky: thank you for that, #ubuntu-offtopic for other such insights :) [08:24] qubits: errors [08:24] folders are there that i want, i want them to display subfolders in a menu tree [08:25] Ello peoples, need some help with my laptop if anyone is avaliable and wanting to assist. [08:25] plaseo: ah, you can't do that sorry [08:25] Zephryos: sure! Please just explain whats not working :) [08:25] Uh, so, can I ask if there's a channel specifically for Ubuntu for Mac users? Or a channel for Grub or other bootup programs? [08:26] ziroday: thank you, its on my wish list [08:26] !mac [08:26] To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE [08:26] raylu: thank you for recommending gparted. I managed to arrange my partitions exactly as needed easily and with no fuss at all. [08:26] ...what.. [08:26] KitNezumi: :D [08:26] Tasbuntu: neither that I know of, but you can browse help.ubuntu.com or ubuntuforums.org whilst you wait [08:26] xD, well! Thanks, Raylu. Also, allright, thank you [08:27] Tasbuntu There is a Linux Channel at #linux [08:27] ..wha? [08:27] plaseo: you can create an idea at brainstorm.ubuntu.com [08:27] On IRC [08:27] care vb romaneste aici:D [08:27] Yes, but, how does that apply to Macs specifically, or Bootup programs? [08:27] is there a way to adjust the audio track offset in totem? [08:27] care vb romaneste aici:D [08:27] Tasubuntu they may be able to help more with grub specifically. [08:28] Oh, allright. Thank you, Nvidia! xD [08:28] Tasubuntu or know of more channels NP :) [08:28] I am gonna have to start coming in here from now on. I wanna learn how to use ubuntu more. I mean, I know how to use it, I would like to learn how to compile/program more [08:28] Tasbuntu: can you please pastebin you're /boot/grub/menu.lst [08:28] I am joining the military in 4 months, and it would give me something to do until then [08:29] Alright, tiny bit o' back story and the condition of the laptop... I'm just wanting to use the laptop for IM's and doing my college assignments around the house. The laptop is a Compaq Presario 2500 (2003), the system seems to "fry" HD's and it has no internal CD-Rom drive nor floppeh. I'm wanting to make this be able to boot off my 2GB USB Drive. Right now I have an external CD Drive which I used to load up Ubuntu 9.04. Questi [08:29] barbarian_sargon: compiling and programming are two very different things :) [08:29] !it | nebundelegat_ [08:29] nebundelegat_: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare) [08:29] Zephryos: you're question got cut off [08:29] barbarian_sargon: more? what can you code in now? also, this isn't really the place to learn to code [08:29] ziroday: ok, I just mean't I would like to learn how to program and compile [08:30] Nope it didn't, I just forgot to put a ? instead of a . <_< 2:30AM here :P [08:30] well, not really code raylu, I can compile, that's about it [08:30] barbarian_sargon: sure, we can help you with both. If you want to program python is a good starting language. For compiling see [08:30] !compile | barbarian_sargon see [08:30] barbarian_sargon see: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first) [08:30] I have 8.04 [08:30] !ot [08:30] barbarian_sargon: though python was the last language i learned, others have recommend that you use python as your first programming language [08:30] #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks! [08:30] and want to upgrade [08:31] but yeah, this is offtopic [08:31] ok, thanks raylu [08:31] Hi there fellows ......I'll ask you again - does someone know an editor of pdf files ? - smth like Acrobat for linux ???? [08:31] Zephryos: you're question got cut off, can you repeat everything below I used to load up Ubuntu 9.04. Questi please [08:31] I have 8.04 and want to upgrade, but when I go to update manager it does not appear [08:31] Question is, how can I make it to where I can run it without having to take my big arse external drive around with me and just use the 2GB USB Drive? [08:31] parapanghelescu: do you mean a pdf creator or something to edit already created pdfs? [08:31] Turns out I was able to solve most of my graphics performance issues with 9.04 by downgrading the nvidia driver from 180 to 173. [08:31] guys i have 1 folder and inside the folder i've got 100 folders... and inside this 100 folders i have file names that start with dot (.)... how do i recursively delete this files with dot? these files with dot are not important. please help [08:32] Colonel_Bear: go to Software Sources > Updates > Show new distribution releases > Normal releases [08:32] jetsaredim > to edit smth is created yes, [08:32] used pdfedit .....but with no great luck ...:( [08:32] parapanghelescu: you may be out of luck. [08:32] Zephryos: use the USB startup disk creator [08:32] Even Acrobat actually works with source files, then builds that into a pdf. [08:32] parapanghelescu: not sure of anything like that - unless there are some online tools [08:33] any one? [08:33] Viking; jetsaredim > hmmmmm so what should I do ? use windows instead ??? [08:34] anybody here know something about partitioning with ubuntu? [08:34] parapanghelescu: you could perhaps use your legally purchased copy of Acrobat under wine or crossover-office. [08:34] gharz, something along the lines of rm .* -r i would assume [08:34] thank you [08:34] its not doing anything [08:34] is "#cat /proc/tty/driver/serial" a command in the terminal? [08:34] There any specific webpage that will have what I need? [08:34] without the #, yes. [08:35] hi everybody .... is it possible to run Mac software under ubuntu? [08:35] thanks Viking667 [08:35] First, I'd like to know if there's an iRC channel that deals with Ubuntu on Macs specifically, and secondly, I need some help with the bootup and shutdown animations in Ubuntu: Basically I've managed to kill them both, so now both bootup and shutdown are text based. I'd like to know if there's a way to fix this. I'm running Ubuntu Jaunty, Grub and Usplash. [08:35] but ....wine is the emulator right ? I'll install wine, install Windows, legal copy, then install Adobe Acrobat [08:35] parapanghelescu: ah, no. [08:35] NvidiaUser: ? [08:35] If you're going to install legal copy of Windows, then you ACTUALLY want VMware or Virtualbox. [08:35] Idk it's for Tasubuntu [08:35] NvidiaUser: why are you repasting what other people have said? [08:35] viking > cool [08:35] Oh, thanks Nvidia o: [08:36] NvidiaUser: please don't do that [08:36] parapanghelescu, wine will emulate windows programs, but why do you need to install acrobat reader? there are plenty of much better pdf reader programs for linux [08:36] He's helping me, actually [08:36] ca n someone help me with IIR and XIRR ? [08:36] ziroday oh I thought he didn't say that sorry ;O [08:36] parapanghelescu: virtualbox is free, and VMware provide VMware server for free. [08:36] parapanghelescu, acrobat reader is not recommended to be used by windows users either as it is a huge security hole for viruses [08:36] Tasbuntu: I asked before if you could pastebin your /boot/grub/menu.lst [08:36] ajhtiredwolf: he actually wants to use Acrobat, not just the reader. [08:36] I did, hang on, lemme do it again [08:36] in financial calculations.. i want to know whats the difference between both of them and how to go about them ? [08:36] Tasbuntu: and please address, that way I'm not going to miss it :) [08:37] ajhtiredwolf > so wine provides already the medium ....emulation for windows ....I need to write/modify pdf files .... [08:37] Where's the Multimedia Systems Selector in Xubuntu? [08:37] sleepy_cat: we can't help you with that here [08:37] shengton: ask in #xubuntu [08:37] ziroday: http://pastebin.com/f78b81c2d [08:37] is it safe to add "8250.nr_uarts=6" to end of the kernel command line in /boot/grub/menu.list file to add new port? [08:37] parapanghelescu: wine provides SOME of the DLL calls that programs make under Windows. [08:37] Sorry and thanks xD [08:37] ziroday: any idea if there in a comm on IRC which can ? [08:37] v_a_n [08:37] Also, thanks again Nvidiauser, you've been amazingly helpful [08:37] viking > know the programs / already worked with VirtualBOX - looks kinda' neat and it's light .... [08:37] sleepy_cat: nope [08:38] So I deleted the final 28 GB partition of windows on my laptop. Now I want to use it as an extra partition where I can put my data for my thesis on. But when I use the partition editor and delete + make new one, it doesn't load automatically and is only for root. Any help? [08:38] oh ok [08:38] parapanghelescu, if you find a program that will not install within ubuntu you can emulate an operating system as a guest os ( like xp ) through virtualbox [08:38] Viking667: got an idea? [08:38] Viking > understand ....is wine under repository or Ubuntu 9.04 ??? [08:38] cyberjorge: no idea, sorry. [08:38] parapanghelescu: I _think_ it's in multiverse. [08:38] Tasubuntu: I have? :O [08:38] Not sure, though. [08:38] Tasbuntu: on line 138 can you append the word splash please [08:38] hmmm... [08:39] Tasbuntu: ... if splash isn't already there [08:39] How do I go about doing that? [08:39] ajhtiredwolf> know that but .....I'm kinda stressed out about the space on "/" ...I have only 300 Mb of free space ...... [08:39] Tasbuntu: you use an editor. [08:39] !fstab | M3nelvagor add it here to have it mounted automatically at boot [08:39] M3nelvagor add it here to have it mounted automatically at boot: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions [08:39] Tasbuntu: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst [08:39] parapanghelescu: ouch. That's not a lot of space any more. [08:40] parapanghelescu, check the site winhq.com and look in the appdb ( application database) to see if that program runs well with your current distribution under wine [08:40] Zephryos: please don't pm :). The USB creator is shipped by default in 8.10 and above [08:40] hi everybody .... is it possible to run Mac software under ubuntu? [08:40] parapanghelescu, there you can also find suggestions to get it running properly if it is possible [08:40] M3nelvagor: why do you want it to load automatically,once its a new partion other than root(/) and swap then it cant load automatically.make a logical drive out of it [08:40] Tasubuntu: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst [08:40] ajhtiredwolf > cool thanks for the tip bro' [08:40] parapanghelescu, de nada [08:40] <|lekarousar|> how do i find which package is broken? [08:41] Allright, I'm here [08:41] viking ....> I forgot the command for checking the free space on my partitions ? do you know-it ?? [08:41] Tasubuntu just add a space after that line and type splash [08:41] |lekarousar|: I've no idea what on earth "unclaimed dags" means. [08:41] df [08:41] Allright [08:41] hi [08:41] parapanghelescu: df [08:41] Hi! i get a security warning when trying to install the package "crank" from the official repo, looks like the package is unsigned. is this normal? [08:41] where can I put my aliases? [08:41] farciarz84: hi [08:42] root=UUID=f27d96f7-7fd5-4e32-9e7d-97a3709edffd ro quiet [08:42] splash [08:42] initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.28-11-generic [08:42] like this? [08:42] Tasbuntu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [08:42] nmvictor: don't now what you mean. I just formated it to ext4 and went on from that point :-) [08:42] magnetron: whats the message of the warning [08:42] <|lekarousar|> Tasbuntu: that wont' work on lilo [08:42] Tasbuntu: no... root=UUID=f27d96f7-7fd5-4e32-9e7d-97a3709edffd ro quiet splash [08:42] ziroday: Eh sorry, 2nd time using irc... where bouts? I have the live disc goign and the USB drive is connected. Do I do a search or? [08:42] Tasbuntu: no, append the word splash to line 138 (the kernel line) just after quiet [08:42] Ah, allright [08:42] Tasubuntu the end should be: quiet splash [08:43] Zephryos: System > Administration > USB Disk Creator (and no worries) [08:43] where is a login script in ubuntu? [08:43] * Viking667 removes splash from his systems. That way he can peruse kernel messages to see if there are issues on bootup. [08:43] magnetron, ziroday that application has big problems in 9.04 [08:43] M3nelvagor:please let me PM you on this [08:43] sth like bash_profile or .profile [08:43] farciarz84: check out in /etc/ [08:43] there, done [08:43] ajhtiredwolf: pardon? [08:43] nmvictor: ok [08:43] farciarz84: there's /etc/rc.d [08:43] nmvictor: it's a message from aptitude in Swedish. it says the package is "not authenticated" [08:43] Tasbuntu: save the file and reboot [08:43] tnx [08:43] Allright, thank you [08:44] ziroday, usb disk creator is not functioning well in ubuntu 9.04 [08:44] ajhtiredwolf: ok, do you know any alternative crypto puzzle solver? [08:44] ajhtiredwolf: works fine here [08:44] viking > looks like the / has only 2% free space >>> what can I do to free some space ??? [08:44] Viking667: I read a book once called "How I gave up reading init messages and learned to love the boot splash" -- I give it 5 stars [08:44] I feel like this is going to be a world of headaches and confusion lol, just cuz Microsofts name isnt stamped all over everything :- | is that normal? [08:44] ziroday, unetbootin is a better choice for most 9.04 users rigt now [08:44] bc: no doubt written by the guy who wrote the Windows boot animation [08:45] magnetron, sorry that messages was supposed to go to someone else :P [08:45] magnetron, what was your question? === Cueball is now known as Cueball|2 [08:45] Viking667: lol. In all seriousness though, unless you suspect something is wrong, I wouldn't bother. unless you know _everything_, chances are it'll just make you go bald. [08:45] Zephryos: okay, sorry. There are multiple ways to get Ubuntu to run off a thumb drive. One of those is the USB Startup Disk Creator which is installed by default, another one is unetbootin. You can use whichever one you want [08:45] <[DeViL_KiLLs]> how to stop drop shadow effect on gnome minimize? [08:45] ajhtiredwolf: i get a security warning when trying to install the package "crank" from the official repo, looks like the package is unsigned. is this normal? [08:45] anyone running an ati 3200 okay under jaunty with the catalyst drivers? [08:45] <[DeViL_KiLLs]> please help me [08:45] magnetron: sometimes its normal but incase something wrong happens you will have to remove it [08:46] is there any way to get the logout option back in the system menu on ubuntu 9.04? it's irritating to have to go the top right corner and hunt for it every time [08:46] [DeViL_KiLLs]: install ccsm and disable/change that animation [08:46] magnetron, and you are sure it is from the official repo? [08:46] * Viking667 steps back out [08:46] <[DeViL_KiLLs]> ziroday: hug :) thanks man [08:46] magnetron, also what is the warning you are getting? [08:46] Zephryos In my opinnion: At first I didn't like Ubuntu because it wasn't windows and after using it a while I got used to it and now I like it :) [08:46] Viking667: also maybe install something like logwatch or logcheck. [08:46] I have just installed ubuntu, but have no mouse (hyper-v vm, on headless server) I am trying to install freenx, so I can use it properly. how do I navigate without mouse? how do I brin up terminal, etc [08:47] <[DeViL_KiLLs]> E: Couldn't find package ccsm [08:47] Jason404: press ctrl+alt+F1 to get to a VT [08:47] <[DeViL_KiLLs]> what is the full name of package [08:47] <[DeViL_KiLLs]> ? [08:47] [DeViL_KiLLs]: the package name is compizconfig-settings-manager [08:47] ziroday: thanks [08:47] Jason404: have fun! [08:47] cheers [08:47] [DeViL_KiLLs]: apt-cache search ccsm [08:47] HAI [08:47] nmvictor: ajhtiredwolf: yes, i only use the official repos. the exact warning is in Swedish, i don't think you want that, but it's the regular warning about the package not being authenticated/being unsigned [08:48] AMAR_: o hai [08:48] <[DeViL_KiLLs]> hihi thanks i will try now [08:48] magnetron, what does the program do? [08:48] hello [08:48] ok I have a alias xxx which is a x@xxx.xxx.xx.x -- why it is not working using ssh xxx [08:48] magnetron: best idea would be to try a different repo and talk to the mirror hosters :) [08:48] ajhtiredwolf: it's a crypto puzzle solver. Vigenére crypto and similar. [08:48] farciarz84: stick it in ~/.ssh/config or /etc/hosts [08:49] ziroday: i'll try that. [08:49] farciarz84: and maybe go with bash_completion [08:49] magnetron, i do see it in the official repos, i would assume it's ok but i would go with ziroday's suggestion [08:49] bc what is bash_completion? [08:50] ajhtiredwolf: can you install it without warnings? [08:50] farciarz84: tab then auto-completes most arguments, hostnames, etc [08:50] how to get benefit in this case from that [08:50] magnetron, the warnings are preventing you from installing it ? [08:50] but when I should put the gost? [08:50] host [08:50] magnetron: yeah, if another repo doesn't have that error then your best bet is to get hold of your mirror providers, your loco would probably know how to get hold of them (but then you already know that :)) [08:50] when/where [08:50] Thanks guys, but that didn't work o: [08:50] <[DeViL_KiLLs]> not work.. the effect is come with gnome..it is not from compize [08:51] Tasubuntu you should repost your menu.lst [08:51] magcius, in that case you can either look for a .deb package, or you can try and install it from source, or you can try and find a different software source containing it [08:51] can anyone help me apply this guide to ubuntu 8.10? [08:51] http://www.versalogic.com/kb/KB.asp?KBID=1550 Configure Bootloader (GRUB) section [08:51] [DeViL_KiLLs]: ah with gnome then I think you're stuck. You might be able to find a way to disable it in gconf [08:51] magnetron, , in that case you can either look for a .deb package, or you can try and install it from source, or you can try and find a different software source containing it [08:51] Tasubuntu sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst [08:51] http://pastebin.com/f21b529c7 [08:51] hi guys, there is one application blueproximity its for what? whats the use of that. [08:51] as I do not need more than two remote connections, would using the free edition of nx server be better in any way than using freenx? [08:51] There [08:52] <[DeViL_KiLLs]> where is gconf .. i will read the file [08:52] farciarz84: echo '1.2.3.4 foo' >> /etc/hosts, then use ssh user@foo. then add `Host foo` and `User bar` in ~/.ssh/config to be able to just `ssh foo` [08:52] Tasubuntu and you selected the right option at startup? [08:52] prathamesh: if the bluetooth device comes in proximity of the bluetooth reciever blueproximity automatically unlocks the machine [08:52] magnetron:does that bar you from installing the package anyway? [08:52] I should note I'm not sure Grub is the program responsible for said animations. Some people have said it's usplash [08:52] Yes [08:52] It boots normally, it's simple text based [08:53] simply* [08:53] ziroday : i tried it but its not working properly [08:53] Ziroday: Alright the USB Drive is now basically a "Live CD"? It just brought up the same startup stuff as the live CD. Which option do I chose? "Try Ubuntu" "install Ubuntu" "Boot rom First HD" (the only HD on this IS the USB Drive...) [08:53] farciarz84: man 5 ssh_config [08:53] Tasubuntu It looks like your right. Usplash controls the bot screen [08:54] Zephryos: Try Ubuntu [08:54] d [08:54] Will I need to do this every time I run it? [08:54] <[MindVirus]> Every time I update, I always see hipo in a list of packages that have been held back. Can I fix this? [08:54] bc I don;t have such file like ~/.ssh/config it's only known_hosts.conf [08:54] well everyone, take care [08:54] farciarz84: create it [08:54] I am going to bed [08:54] nmvictor: maybe you're not aware of the purpose of the package signatures [08:55] [MindVirus], when you run apt-update ? [08:55] o: I guess so. But then how do I fix that? Is there a way to reset uSplash so that it shows the animations again? [08:55] Tasubuntu Can I pm you? [08:55] <[DeViL_KiLLs]> one more question.. need some tool for apple iphone .. how to upload music from ubuntu to apple device [08:55] Sure [08:55] !puregnome | arvind_khadri [08:55] arvind_khadri, please see my private message [08:55] <[MindVirus]> ajhtiredwolf, I've never heard of apt-update. [08:55] <[MindVirus]> I use apt-get upgrade/dist-upgrade. [08:55] <[MindVirus]> And I obviously update my packages with update. [08:55] bc tnx for help [08:55] magnetron:i just asked,i have neva encounterd the problem [08:56] Erf, error! [ 3.542351] IO APIC resources could be not be allocated. Loading, Please wait... BusyBox v1.10.2 (Ubuntu 1:1.10.2-2ubuntu7) built-in shell (ash) Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands. then (initramfs) [08:56] is it worth getting crossover office or should i just stick with wine [08:56] [MindVirus], you are saying when you did an "upgrade" not and update? [08:56] <[DeViL_KiLLs]> may be gtkpod work fine? [08:57] Brando753, it depends exactly what you want to do with it. [08:57] <[MindVirus]> ajhtiredwolf, I did both. [08:57] does anyone know its advantages over wine? [08:57] <[MindVirus]> ajhtiredwolf, that doesn't matter. [08:57] <[MindVirus]> It's been happening for a while. [08:57] [MindVirus], if you are wanting to know how to remove the package you can do sudo apt-get remove package name [08:57] <[MindVirus]> No. [08:57] hello, i need some assistance installing the linux intel mesa driver from "http://intellinuxgraphics.org/", i get an error "configure: error: Expat required for DRI."...what am i todo.... [08:57] <[MindVirus]> I don't want to remove it. [08:58] <[MindVirus]> I want it to stop being held back. [08:58] Brando753, check the compatibility lists. If it supports a program that you need, that wine doesn't support and you can't find a linux equivalent, then yeah.. it'd probably be worthwhile. [08:58] [MindVirus], did you try removing it and then readding it ? [08:58] <[MindVirus]> ajhtiredwolf, no. [08:58] <[MindVirus]> I will try. [08:58] has anyone been able to get gtkpod to work on 9.04? [08:58] <[MindVirus]> bbryant, just ask your question. [08:59] hello, i need some assistance installing the linux intel mesa driver from "http://intellinuxgraphics.org/", i get an error "configure: error: Expat required for DRI."...what am i todo.... [08:59] [MindVirus]: it depends on a libgpod.so.3 library that's unavailable in the current repositories, and the current trunk build of gtkpod doesn't compile properly on my system [08:59] I'm curious if anyone has come across that [08:59] Ziroday: Any suggestions? [08:59] <[MindVirus]> bbryant, I didn't, in facty. [08:59] oo [08:59] <[MindVirus]> *fact. [08:59] yyyu [08:59] <[MindVirus]> But I removed gtkpod a little while back. [09:00] <[MindVirus]> Did you try rolling back? [09:00] not yet, the problem is with having a newer dependency than it looks for === sean is now known as seansean [09:00] hello, i need some assistance installing the linux intel mesa driver from "http://intellinuxgraphics.org/", i get an error "configure: error: Expat required for DRI."...what am i todo.... [09:02] <[MindVirus]> bbryant, right, so if you roll back, it won't ask for a new dep. [09:02] <[MindVirus]> If you can get an old version to run, then let it run until you can get the new version to. [09:02] <[MindVirus]> Also, make sure your repos are fine. [09:02] [MindVirus]: it's asking for an older dependency, and I can't roll pack the library package that's providing the newer file because the older version of libgpod is no longer available [09:03] hello, i need some assistance installing the linux intel mesa driver from "http://intellinuxgraphics.org/", i get an error "configure: error: Expat required for DRI."...what am i todo.... [09:03] <[MindVirus]> Wait wait, I thought it was asking for a *newer* version. [09:03] <[MindVirus]> Oh, I see now. [09:03] no [09:03] <[MindVirus]> So what it depends on is too old. [09:04] right [09:04] <[MindVirus]> Interesting. Did you file a bug report? [09:04] <[MindVirus]> (I assume you've updated and all) [09:04] <[MindVirus]> bbryant, also, I don't know if you're interested but hipo will do the job as well. [09:04] I haven't gotten that far yet [09:04] To Anyone: I think I just made my Kernel mad.. its saying [494.051027] Kernel panic - not syncing: attempted to kill init!" .. Does this mean that Ubuntu is running.. but in text only? [09:04] I just found that with synaptic [09:04] <[MindVirus]> Not as many bells and whistles but it works. [09:04] thanks [09:04] <[MindVirus]> Aye. It's a lot prettier too. :) [09:05] hello, i need some assistance installing the linux intel mesa driver from "http://intellinuxgraphics.org/", i get an error "configure: error: Expat required for DRI."...what am i todo.... [09:05] Hipo worked fine, thanks [MindVirus] [09:05] <[MindVirus]> devius, why are you installing a driver from a website? [09:05] <[MindVirus]> bbryant, :) [09:06] farciarz84: p.s. if it's not installed (i.e. dpkg -l | grep completion) then `sudo apt-get install bash-completion` [09:06] <[MindVirus]> ajhtiredwolf, thanks, BTW. [09:06] <[MindVirus]> I think it fixed. === Cueball|2 is now known as Cueball [09:06] [MindVirus]: because the new ubuntu dosent suppport my intel grapphics card [09:06] <[MindVirus]> devius, why do you say that? [09:06] [MindVirus], de nada [09:07] ubuntu [09:07] [MindVirus]: i read it in the release note + the performance is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more than bad [09:07] <[MindVirus]> devius, 945GME? [09:08] [MindVirus]: GM965 [09:08] devius, i am using 9.04 with an intel graphics card without problem. However in the next release 9.10 improvements to intel card supprt is planned [09:08] <[MindVirus]> ajhtiredwolf, a lot of Intel cards have issues. [09:08] <[MindVirus]> devius, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582&highlight=x3100 [09:08] <[MindVirus]> The PPA helped for me. [09:08] <[MindVirus]> I'm on the 945 though. [09:08] what's the main criterion to see if my comp can enable desktop effects? [09:08] ajhtiredwolf: GM965....at least yours isnt this one [09:09] <[MindVirus]> devius, never try to download drivers from a website. [09:09] <[MindVirus]> Unless you really know why and what you're doing. [09:09] [MindVirus]: y's that [09:09] aha [09:09] devius, what version are you using rihgt now? if your current drivers work couldnt you just use those in 9.04? [09:09] <[MindVirus]> devius, because Synaptic takes care of dependencies and many other things. [09:10] <[MindVirus]> ajhtiredwolf, no. [09:10] <[MindVirus]> ajhtiredwolf, it's a pretty big kernel-side issue. [09:10] ajhtiredwolf: u mean the version of ubuntu....9.04 [09:10] <[MindVirus]> ajhtiredwolf, if you're interested, there's a lot of reading to be done on the subject. [09:11] ajhtiredwolf: and btw my current drivers dont work [09:11] [MindVirus], devius i see, in that case wait for 9.10, improvements to intel based cards is planned, maybe see how the alpha fucntions for you [09:11] <[MindVirus]> ajhtiredwolf, he wants it now, obviously. :) [09:11] ajhtiredwolf: ya... [09:11] <[MindVirus]> devius, just follow the guide. [09:11] <[MindVirus]> It'll solve everything. [09:11] [MindVirus]: ok [09:12] my super awesome solution would be "buy a nvidia card " :P [09:12] doesn somebdy can help me configuring my audio mixer for recording? [09:13] ciao a tutti [09:13] tobago, which sound card? [09:13] <[MindVirus]> devius, this is important. [09:13] <[MindVirus]> ajhtiredwolf, laptops. [09:13] <[MindVirus]> Listen, devius. [09:13] [MindVirus]: ? [09:13] <[MindVirus]> If you have major issues, load up recovery mode Ubuntu, and use the root console. [09:14] <[MindVirus]> Type "nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and put a # before the line with Option "AccelMethod" "UXA". [09:14] [MindVirus]: k thanks for the advice [09:14] [MindVirus]: lol my xorg.conf file is blank [09:14] <[MindVirus]> UXA is known to malfunction in this kernel with these drivers. [09:14] <[MindVirus]> devius, the guide will make you changei t. [09:14] <[MindVirus]> *change it. [09:14] <[MindVirus]> (It is highly recommended that you do.) [09:15] ajhtiredwolf, creative soundblaster (quite old one) [09:15] tobago, audigy series? [09:15] what is audigy series? === geo_ is now known as geo05 [09:15] tobago, audigy 1 2 etc. [09:15] <[MindVirus]> ajhtiredwolf, dude. [09:15] <[MindVirus]> :) [09:15] <[MindVirus]> It's a SoundBlaster. [09:16] [MindVirus], right... thats what an audigy is [09:16] "Desktop effects could not be enabled"... why?? how do i see what graphics card i have, all i know is on windows i had to install intel extreme graphics driver for smooth visual exp... [09:16] <[MindVirus]> ajhtiredwolf, Audigy didn't exist a while ago. [09:16] anyone know the website that says "just f**king google it?" [09:16] [MindVirus], i own a Sound Blaster Audigy 2 [09:16] ajhtiredwolf, how to find out without opening the computer? hwinfo? [09:16] <[MindVirus]> ajhtiredwolf, I assume by "old" he meant "a few years old". [09:16] <[MindVirus]> Uplink, put it all together and put a .com after it. [09:16] [MindVirus], audigy 2 is more than 5 years old :p [09:17] <[MindVirus]> ajhtiredwolf, really? I have a bad memory then. [09:17] ajhtiredwolf, mine is much older [09:17] <[MindVirus]> tobago, 16-bit, yes? [09:17] [MindVirus], how to find out? [09:18] tobago, if your using gnome just go to system administration sound [09:18] <[MindVirus]> Don't worry 'bout it. If it's that old then it's probably 16-bit. [09:18] [MindVirus], thugh i suppose it's not a 32 bit [09:18] tobago, system/ preferences/ sound i mean [09:18] tobago, what do you have listed under Device: ? [09:19] ajhtiredwolf, HDANvidia Alsa Mixer [09:19] tobago, are there any onther devices listed there? [09:19] tobago, click on the drop down menu [09:19] <[MindVirus]> devius, I am going to bed so I cannot help you any longer. [09:19] tobago, that is your onboard sound card [09:19] ajhtiredwolf, yes booktree for example [09:19] <[MindVirus]> Hope you succeed, buddy. [09:20] and realtek [09:20] [MindVirus]: np thanks anyway [09:20] ajhtiredwolf, ^^ [09:20] Hello everyone. [09:20] Lazengann:hellooo? [09:20] tobago, first off what is the proble your having with it ? [09:20] Just got my Ubuntu installed and running. [09:20] Liking it so far. [09:20] Previous Windows user. [09:21] ajhtiredwolf, anyway i now use the onboard card. so it's the nvidia one [09:21] what's the command in 9.04 to reenable X zap? [09:21] tobago, what is the problem your having with it? [09:22] ajhtiredwolf, my problem: i want to record with audacity (or whatever) and want to make sure the mixer settings are correctly [09:22] so i want to use the line-in [09:22] tripzero, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/DontZap?action=show&redirect=DontZap [09:23] anyone running an ati 3200 okay under jaunty with the catalyst drivers? [09:23] tobago, did you check to see if line in is muted? [09:23] ajhtiredwolf, i ensured there is a signal on the line-in, but the recording tool is not recognizing anything. [09:24] tobago, from what i remember, i think with audicity you might actually have to use a program called jack [09:24] ajhtiredwolf, i will install it [09:25] ajhtiredwolf, i installed jack too. [09:25] Hi, I'm considering moving from openSuse10.3 to Ubuntu. OpenSuse provide security and bug fix updates for 2 years, does anyone know how long Ubuntu support their latest releases? [09:26] register oladejo [09:26] and if like openSuse it is sucurity and bug fix updates only, or new versions as well [09:26] Futurity, there is a seperate version that is supported longer [09:26] ajhtiredwolf, i have opened the als mixer and choosen record. [09:27] i know there is an LTS? version, but is that only security and bug fixes, or does that allow new versions to be installed? [09:27] Futurity, not sure :-P [09:27] Hmm, just came from openSUSE because my girlfriend couldn't figure it out. [09:27] when I say new versions, i mean does it suggest going from firefox 2 to firefox 3 when you run update? [09:27] Kinda miss it. [09:27] It is a nice desktop environment [09:28] Futurity, ive never ran the LTS version [09:28] REGISTER [09:28] ajhtiredwolf, there the "audio record" button is marked as disabled, enabling it and opening the record tab again, the button is still marked as disabled. [09:28] but it's a nightmare to migrate from opensuse 10.2 to 10.3 for example [09:28] ajhtiredwolf, any idea? [09:28] Futurity, upgrading is usually fairly painless [09:28] Futurity, but I always wipe and reinstall just out of habbit [09:29] I liked opensuse [09:29] A lot [09:29] oladejo: its /REGISTER dont include the <> [09:29] Ubuntu was my first. [09:29] i'm basicallyu hoping that Ubuntu not only gives security and bug fix updates, but like Windows, tells you when new versions of software are available so that you can upgrade from Firefox to the latest version for example [09:29] It's like losing your Linux virginity [09:29] Futurity, yes it does do that [09:29] cool [09:29] Futurity, however with some programs you need to add their software repo to your source list [09:29] in fact very cool :) [09:30] i see [09:30] Futurity, because ubuntu isn't always very fast in doing that [09:30] I switched because I got tired of windows not utilizing my hardware to its fullest potential. [09:30] i suppose like the Google software repository? [09:30] Futurity, yes or pidgin etc etc [09:30] Hi there. I've just installed the latest Ubuntu release, and the damn thing has some bug already. Anyone know more than me about how to fix this? [09:30] don't worry moved away from Windows years ago ;) [09:30] Ubuntu [09:30] Pidgin is the greates [09:30] Futurity, and ubuntu is very reliable in release times. [09:30] t [09:30] Although loving the Apple Mac interface [09:30] Futurity: ofcourse it does that,also most software are coded to to do that,tell you when a new version of them is available [09:31] hello every one - need help installing vmware player - its asking for "kernel headers 2.6.27-8-eeepc what is this and where do i find one??? [09:31] lowkey1979, i dont know how to fix some bug, but if you tell me whats wrong i might be able to help you [09:31] I'm actually a native KDE 3.5 user. [09:31] Well here's the story. [09:31] nmvictor: openSuse only tells you about security and bug fix versions for the release you have installed from their DVD [09:31] I just got ubuntu because of the support. The support or at least at the time was samall for Kubuntu [09:31] so you may get the latest firefox 2 with all the security and bug fixes finstalld [09:31] tobago, ehh, honestly i havent messed iwth audio recording in a while with ubuntu, i gave up trying to get my Mbox mini working in it [09:31] but it won't move from Firefox 2 to firefox 3 [09:32] how do i rename my wireless device? its currently called "eth1" instead of "wlan0" [09:32] Futurity, i believe that FF 3 is intalled default in 9.04 [09:32] kgx, i think its in /etc/network/interfaces but im not sure [09:32] the thing is that openSuse provide 2 years support on their latest erleases but i think Ubuntu is only 18 months for their latest releases [09:32] I think one thing Ubuntu has over openSUSE is the family of users willing to help. [09:32] i agree with that ;) [09:32] A lot more Ubuntu users then SUSE [09:33] am trying to upgrade from ubuntu 8.04 to 9.04 after the upgrade i can not get my GUI again [09:33] ubuntu 8.10 new install on a laptop intel 945 chipset, normal visual effects, DarkRoom theme option, all my popup notifications are two colors, is this normal? the background is half tan half grey, does not look right [09:33] I just installed it for the first time. Last night I put it on hibernate. No problem up to now, running like a dream. Then, my girlfriend went to use it today. Naturally it wanted a password, so not know it she tried to switch users. The screen goes black. I come home and reboot and it crashes on the user login screen. [09:33] i take it that the Ubuntu user base is now bigger than openSuse? [09:33] I'm on 9.04 AMD64 [09:33] A lot bigger [09:33] By a long shot [09:33] I would say thousands of bigger [09:33] hello every one - need help installing vmware player - its asking for "kernel headers 2.6.27-8-eeepc what is this and where do i find one??? [09:33] lowkey1979, i used to have problems with hybernate, so i turned it off [09:33] It's like the display crashes or something. Flickers a lot then locks up. [09:34] Right now I can't get 3D to work for some reason, but oh well. [09:34] I'll check it out ;) [09:34] thanks for all your advice [09:34] Futurity, you know if you wanted to just try it out first [09:34] Yeah, but now I'm having to use the install ISO disk just to get on and try and fix it. [09:34] Futurity, you could always just install a guest VB session in your current opensuse session [09:35] lowkey1979, so the gui will no longer show up? [09:35] Futurity try Fedora [09:35] Uhriventis, if he's looking for friendly user support... i woudlnt try fedora :p [09:35] You think I need to resort to a reinstall? Will that get rid of what I've installed already or will it reinstall without reformatting? [09:35] Futurity: sorry i thought you were asking about ubuntu,wouldn you try #suse,if you need anything about them.sorry anyway [09:35] Uhriventis, that is the reason i switched to ubuntu [09:35] Nope, completely dead. [09:35] root@juri:/etc# sudo do-release-upgrade [09:35] Checking for a new ubuntu release [09:35] No new release found [09:35] root@juri:/etc# cat /etc/issue [09:35] issue issue.net [09:35] kwork: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [09:35] root@juri:/etc# cat /etc/issue [09:35] Ubuntu 8.04.2 \n \l [09:35] I switched from Ubuntu for that "hands on" experience. [09:36] lowkey1979, what graphics card are you using? [09:36] Uhriventis, that temptation is there however I dont have the time :-P [09:36] Radeon 7000. But there were no problems before... [09:36] http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/177027/ [09:36] how is that possible [09:36] I think, I foger actually lol [09:36] Haha, try Minix! [09:36] forget [09:36] lowkey1979, try reconfiguring the xorg.conf and if that doesnt work reinstall your ati display drivers [09:37] hi everybody! [09:37] http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/177027/ <--- why i cant release upgrade ? [09:37] http://www.minix3.org/ [09:37] Talk about hard [09:38] how do i get ncurses.h? [09:38] Or not hard... But, rather time consuming. [09:38] Hmmmm. New linux user here, I'd rather avoid killing it. How straightforward is that? The only command line stuff I know is DOS. I know, i know.... [09:38] lowkey1979, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg [09:38] in my computer both speaker and headphone are working. But i thought if you connect headphone speakers shouldn't work. How can i fix it? thanx! [09:38] lowkey1979, run that [09:38] do i need to set new aptsouces to upgrade from 8.0.2 ? [09:38] lowkey1979, that will reconfigure the xorg.conf [09:38] DOS CMD is harder than UNIX command [09:38] Ok... [09:39] herb: u mean u still hear sound from the speakers [09:39] One sec, will give it a go... [09:39] UNIX is much more straight forward. So if you have DOS skills you can UNIX around fine [09:39] indus, yes [09:39] Uhriventis: **not** [09:39] lowkey1979, dont do that in your live session [09:39] wine is a poison! it poisons linux knowledgebase! [09:39] herb: laptop? [09:39] lowkey1979, do it in the installed session [09:39] what are alternatives to firefox on ubuntu? [09:39] indus, yes [09:39] Devius: Yet [09:39] Yet [09:39] Uhg yes [09:39] and mine is xubuntu [09:39] safari and opera are not supported on ubuntu? [09:39] herb: which version\o f ubunty [09:40] areels:midori [09:40] 9.04 [09:40] areels, I think opera is, not sure about safara [09:40] nmvictor: i've trouble with flash, is midori better? [09:40] areels:but firefox still stands out to be the best you'll ever get [09:40] I leared UNIX command much easier then DOS [09:40] herb: have you tried in windows? Have similar issue? [09:40] *learned [09:40] nmvictor: flashs are sluggish on firefox don't know why [09:40] nmvictor, chrome is the best imho :P [09:40] indus, i don't have windows on my laptop [09:40] areels, have you heard of swiftweasel? [09:40] i believe the chrome is best too ajhtiredwolf [09:41] What is your resolution set to? Might have a reason for lag [09:41] areels, it is an alternative to firefox, made for linux, runs faster [09:41] haven't heard of it ajhtiredwolf but i know iceweasel [09:41] areels:i could help you with flash,maybe you need the latest version,you have it? [09:41] Yeah, true lol. [09:41] areels, as far as flash though, that is a problem with flash not firefox [09:41] I just got flash working on 9.04 [09:41] yes it's the latest and i'm using adobe's extension nmvictor [09:41] areels, you can try some of the open source solutions to flash but they are not that great imho [09:42] well i've tried recommended swf extension but it was sluggish either [09:42] areels, try gnash [09:42] areels, other than that, flash jus runs slow in linux from my experience [09:42] yea i mean that, it really works slow [09:43] areels, you might get some performance gains in swiftweasel [09:43] ajhtiredwolf: In openSUSE worked fine for me. Just like XP [09:43] areels, simply because it isnt super bloated like firefox === ubuntu__ is now known as Caffeinated [09:43] Ubuntu seems slower [09:43] well let me try swiftweasel then [09:43] Uhriventis, never used openSUSE but i had the problem in all distros ive used [09:44] ajhtiredwolf: Old hardware? [09:44] Uhriventis, not at all :-P [09:44] Uhriventis, Intel Duo 7400 geforce 8800gt OC edition, 4gig ram [09:44] ajhtiredworlf: That was my problem. I updated slightly and things work a lot better. [09:44] Uhriventis, I use linux for gaming too so i need something that can keep up [09:45] ajhtiredwolf: Might be ahead of your game in that case. [09:45] hi [09:45] MMORPGs? [09:45] Uhriventis, unbelievably you can get dx9 games to work [09:45] Uhriventis, nahh I hate those, those are for people who sit around all day doing nothing with their life :P [09:45] DX10? [09:45] Uhriventis, I just got fallout3 to work [09:45] Uhriventis, DX10 no, that doenst even work in xp :P [09:45] !hello [09:45] Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu! [09:45] It can [09:45] ... [09:46] thanks ubottu [09:46] With some tweak after SP3 [09:46] Uhriventis, *shrug maybe* i dunno i dont use windows [09:46] Since it's no longer supported [09:46] areels: you could also try chrome as ajhtiredwolf suggests,i never knew that it was ready,one for linux.im gonna get it too. [09:46] hello [09:46] i'm need help in figuring how to overpass my smtp mail sending problem. it can't be my comp., cause i can send smtp mails in other wi-fi connection. is it possible that it is the router? [09:46] nmvictor, it isnt available in linux [09:46] Personally Windows isn't a bad OS Vista is but not XP. [09:46] don't think it is out for linux [09:46] nmvictor, i was just saying it is my favorite :p [09:46] หวัดดีครับ ทุกคน [09:46] nickname olasoft [09:46] Uhriventis, I don't like having to run an antivirus [09:47] มีใคร ใช้งาน xubuntu บ้างครับ [09:47] i put in my old creative soundblaster right now, but the system seems to ignore it? the onboard card is still working but the soundblaster does not. [09:47] nmvictor: try opera, swiftfox, swiftweasel [09:47] hi [09:47] please. anyone? [09:47] please. anyone? [09:47] please. anyone? [09:47] asafche: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [09:47] Well, put it this way. If nine out of ten people used Linux than it would be getting the wrap because, if I was incline to write a virus I would want it to effect as much people as I can. [09:47] asafche: ask ur question [09:47] It's not that it's a bad os [09:48] Just popular [09:48] furthermore the network card now makes trouble. [09:48] Uhriventis, well the difference with linux is [09:48] !ot | Uhriventis [09:48] Uhriventis, in linux everyone isn't using the same program [09:48] Uhriventis: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks! [09:48] howto get open office 3.0 on Intrepid Ibex [09:48] Uhriventis, just about every windows user out there has outlook express, so someone can write an outlook virus and attack most windows useres [09:48] i'm need help in figuring how to overpass my smtp mail sending problem. it can't be my comp., cause i can send smtp mails in other wi-fi connection. is it possible that it is the router? [09:48] lars_bauer: try enable backports in repository synaptic [09:49] Same with openofice. [09:49] office [09:49] lars_bauer: if its been backported that is [09:49] asafche, can you explain the problem a bit more detailed ? [09:49] Uhriventis, I suppose, but then there is the fact that xp makes the default user adminstrator [09:49] Besides, Linux just bought a bunch of code from Microsoft anyways. [09:49] oO [09:50] Same with Mac. Mac's coding is 30 percent MS [09:50] Linux bought code from Microsoft ? When did that happen ? [09:50] ajhtiredwolf: Uhriventis, please use #ubuntu-offtopic for this discussion [09:50] Linux doesn't buy code :) [09:50] Does anyone know a good site to show me how to setup my nokia phone as a modem for my EEE PC using bluetooth? [09:50] GibbaTheHutt, <--- [09:50] SUSE/Red Hat/Fedora [09:50] Google it [09:50] Uhriventis: Last warning [09:50] Warning for what? [09:50] Uhriventis, please use #ubuntu-offtopic for this discussion [09:50] Uhriventis, go to offtopic channel for none technical stuff [09:51] jussi01, ah alright, no questions being asked though :p [09:51] GibbaTheHutt, - i have an ubuntu 8.04 and have evolution installed and read/write my mails. when i'm at my parents house, with another wi-fi, it can read mails but not send them. [09:51] hi all, whats the command line for updating the software and sources list [09:51] jim__, sudo apt-get update [09:51] asafche, so I assume you're on a laptop which works at one and not the other ? [09:51] ;^) [09:52] GibbaTheHutt, the send mail are configured as smtp. the answer is yes for your question. [09:52] ty [09:52] asafche, and what about the different ISPs, is one of them the same as the mail account you are using ? [09:52] oh,my god [09:53] whats the channel for gaming on ubuntu? [09:54] GibbaTheHutt, no. my e-mail is at lunarpages, a host. company, and the ISP is another communication comp. [09:54] indus: sound as a good idea , but i have tryed to understand what you suggest , and searched around in settings etc. I am stocked. [09:55] anyone know a good site for setting up jaunty to use a mobile phone for internet via bluetooth? [09:55] GibbaTheHutt, maybe it's the router? it can be so? [09:55] asafche, it could still be ISP, could be router if it has some odd settings, but less likely, do you have any other email accounts you can test with ? [09:55] lars_bauer: i forgot ur question :) [09:55] i have a gmail acoount i can try configure at my LT.... [09:56] GibbaTheHutt, i have a gmail acoount i can try configure at my LT.... [09:56] asafche, it may help isolate the problem [09:57] asafche: are you using port 25? here in finland ISP's often block port 25 === Cueball is now known as Cueball|2 [09:57] asafche: the ISP /provider blocks the standard smtp port, you can yuse their alternative smtp sever instead, Gmail uses another port over ssl for smtp and it will work! [09:57] jimi_, #ubuntu-gaming [09:58] rohit, ty [09:59] Hmm which other channels are good on IRC ? [09:59] jim__ ~ np [09:59] rwth [09:59] sorry about that [09:59] I've just started using IRC past few days ... [10:00] rohit, i guess it depends what you need to what channel you go to [10:00] jim__ ~ I was thinking something like programming, linux ... basically some geek stuff :D [10:01] rohit: try #kernel [10:01] rohit, well i dont know the names of them but im sure there will be a list of them on google and plenty of them too :) [10:01] Hmm will do - whole new world out here :D === geo_ is now known as geo05 [10:04] Hi everyone!!!! [10:04] hi buddies! my apt-get is goin crazy repeating its downloads, i can't figure out wat's the prob, i can't find the files it downloaded in cache either... wats goin on?? [10:04] jussi01, how can i know if im using port 25 [10:04] ? [10:04] g0wda: try "sudo apt-get autoclean" in the terminal === tuxlinux_ is now known as tuxlinux [10:05] g0wda: then issue a "sudo apt-get update" [10:05] does that delete all my packages in the cache? i want to keep them actually... [10:05] g0wda: why would you want that? [10:06] I can create a local repo later and take it anywhere... i've been doing that since hardy... my friends without internet benifit a lot from it.. [10:07] g0wda: I see... [10:07] g0wda: then I'm not sure... [10:07] g0wda: you may want to manually move the cache somewhere else and still do the apt-get autoclean [10:07] ok i backed up the packages in another directory... now i can try wat u said [10:08] yeha [10:08] yo yo yo [10:08] g0wda: good lucj [10:08] luck [10:09] Does anyone know how to limit the boundaries of the smaller resolution display in a dual screen set up? [10:09] hey wait a sec, git-core isn't there in my synaptic, everything else, libgit-ruby for example is there!!!! [10:09] wtf? [10:09] g0wda: apt-cache search git | grep core [10:09] how to find exact port wher my mode, is connected?? [10:10] gogy: can you expan please, i dont understand the question [10:11] aCTIONpARSNIP it's there in the command line thing but not in synaptic i swear! [10:11] im trying to setup a hyla fax server and i`m having troble to set my modem port i`m not shoure i select the right one [10:11] g0wda: thats half a good thing at least, ive seen loads of people say similar but with different packages [10:12] anyone know how to make work numeric kbd on an standard apple usb kbd ? [10:12] g0wda: personally i dont use gui apps to install/remove packages [10:12] ok i found it by scrolling up an down! [10:12] g0wda: lol [10:12] even i wouldnt have if my apt-get wasn crazy.. [10:13] it keeps downloading the same ded file till i hit ctrl+c out of desperation [10:13] macubuntu: let me see what i can dig up [10:13] ubuntu 8.10 new install on a laptop intel 945 chipset, normal visual effects, DarkRoom theme option, all my popup notifications are two colors, is this normal? the background is half tan half grey, does not look right [10:13] chocobana for me I can do it with NVDIA X server settings [10:14] nmvictor: chrome released for linux?? [10:14] thanks Action P [10:14] actionparsnip:do u have any advice about find out my modem port?? [10:15] not yet http://www.google.com/chrome/intl/en/linux.html?hl=en [10:15] macubuntu: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xkeyboard-config/+bug/29009 [10:15] gogy: let me see [10:15] !java [10:15] To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository === root is now known as Guest54018 === Guest54018 is now known as lensiwpe [10:15] thanks XXX I check it [10:16] !chromium [10:16] Sorry, I don't know anything about chromium [10:16] Burlynn: does it happen only with Darkroom? Try changing the desktop background. The notifications are slightly transparent and will show a bit of whatever is behind... [10:16] !chrome [10:16] Sorry, I don't know anything about chrome [10:16] hey guys [10:16] gogy: may help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=320534&highlight=faxing+with+ubuntu [10:16] can someone give me a hand with joomla [10:16] thnx [10:16] im trying to install it and its saying that it cant write to a heap of directories like images what do i chmod them to? [10:16] lensiwpe: you're better of to the Joomla channel (#joomla) [10:16] gogy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupAndFax may help too [10:17] gogy: http://www.ls.net/software/opensource/linux/ubuntu/efax [10:17] chocobanana: kthxbye [10:17] oh, chrome is almost done http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/waterfall/console [10:17] chocobanana: no it happens with the default theme too, and regardless if the popup is top or bottom it still has that color deal. not a big deal just kind of ugly [10:18] Burlynn: right, you mention ubuntu 8.10, no transparent notifications yet... [10:19] Burlynn: not sure about what may be the problem unfortunately [10:19] Burlynn: try searching or posting your question in the forums [10:19] hey guys just been to #joomla and there is nobody there [10:19] GibbaTheHutt, the evolution is giving me this message: לא ניתן להתחבר ל-mail.google.com: ‏Connection timed out [10:19] i can't burn cds on my laptop with hardy/intrepid/jaunty, finding lots of noise when i google, can someone please help me get started troubleshooting, i don't know where to begin [10:19] can someone tell me what to chmod the directories in joomla to? [10:20] directories like image, language, mambots etc etc [10:20] q. how to install java in firefox ? [10:20] GibbaTheHutt, it says that i can't connect in hebrew [10:21] anyone know?~ [10:21] jetienne: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin [10:21] my numpad was working with 8.10 but nomore in 9.04, it's pitty cause everything else is working like a cadillac on macpro [10:21] in the terminal should get you the web browser plugin [10:21] is there a tool to extract an image from a pdf ? [10:22] lensiwpe: you read the installation guide? http://downloads.joomlacode.org/docmanfileversion/1/7/4/17471/1.5_Installation_Manual_version_0.5.pdf [10:22] hi all [10:22] hi elementz === tdn_ is now known as tdn [10:24] just to confirm, 30.1GB of items in /root/.Trash, most of which is in folders labeled recup_xxx, as well as a few variations and copies of dosemu.gz, is ok to delete, right? [10:24] i need usbmon driver enabled on my jaunty box. modprobe usbmon gives me a module not found. a locate gives me a driver for the previous kernel under /lib/modules/2.6.27-11-generic/kernel/drivers/usb/mon/usbmon.ko . now how would i proceed from here? === Cueball|2 is now known as Cueball [10:25] I have a fit-PC with an on board chip for hardware accelerated AES. There is a module for this that is loaded by default geode_aes. How do I make dmcrypt/LUKS use this module? [10:25] youhou is there anyone here with a macpro and U 9.04 ??? [10:25] hey guys im back [10:25] can someone give me a hand with these joomla permissions [10:25] maxagaz: install xpdf-utilities [10:26] trying to install joomla but i dont know what permissions it needs [10:26] maxagaz: there is a tool called pdfimages [10:26] anyone? [10:26] c'mon someone in here must know about octal permissions [10:27] well what do you need to do, read write and execute? [10:27] lensiwpe: i know all about them [10:27] 700? [10:27] lensiwpe: i think no-one knows about joomla [10:27] lensiwpe: just not what joomla expects [10:27] well the issue is this [10:27] its not a joomla problem i guess [10:27] its just... [10:27] i dont know what kind of permissions you need on a web directory in /var/www [10:27] lensiwpe: joomla installation forum: http://forum.joomla.org/viewforum.php?f=429 [10:27] thanks [10:28] just to confirm, 30.1GB of items in /root/.Trash, most of which is in folders labeled recup_xxx, as well as a few variations and copies of dosemu.gz, is ok to delete, right? [10:28] what are they in root's trash? [10:28] see i have RTFMed but the weird thing is they dont tell you what to chmod the directories to... [10:28] why* [10:28] infinityxi: I have no clue whatsoever [10:28] but damn, that is a LOT of space [10:28] i'm guessing if they are in there and the system is working fine [10:28] my numpad was working with 8.10 but nomore in 9.04, it's pitty cause everything else is working like a cadillac on macpro [10:29] anybody else think thats weird? [10:29] have you been running many programs as root? [10:29] nothing out of the ordinary [10:30] synaptic and framebuffer programs mostly [10:30] should be fine since the system is running fine and nothing will be looking for anything in the trash [10:30] ok, that's what I thought; just wanted to confirm [10:30] thanks [10:30] how often is stuff in /etc/cron.daily executed, once every 24hours? is there a way to change it to once every 18hours? [10:30] where is /proc/config.gz on ubuntu? Is it somewhere else or just missing? [10:31] there are a bunch of man pages on cron [10:32] GUYS I FOUND IT! [10:32] for anyone else's benefit the place to find the chmod values for joomla is http://forum.joomla.org/index.php/topic,9987.msg82253.html [10:33] maxagaz: actually pdfimages is already installed. no need to install anything else [10:33] hi all, i am using a touchscreen, ubuntu 9.04 picks it up by detault but it acts "wierd". When i touch the screen i can move my finger and hte mouse moves, but not to where my finger it, it moves relative to where it currently is. like if the cursor is in the middle, and i touch the top right and move 1cm down, the cursor moves 1cm down from the middle. I also cannot click. lsusb picks it up as "D-WAV Scientific Co., Ltd eGalax TouchScreen" === Cueball is now known as Cueball|2 [10:36] hey guys. my flash plugin is just partially working. most popular sites work, but less popular ones do not. can someone help me to find out why? [10:36] Preet: sounds like you need to calibrate the screen [10:36] there is a screen calibrating utility, just can't think of the package [10:37] xrandr, infinityxi [10:37] q0s: which flash plugin did you use [10:37] q0s: flash oder gnash? [10:37] or [10:37] yeah i know which you mean, when i ran it before it said it didnt find a touchscreen [10:37] but i will try it again later [10:37] Hello, I have compiled and installed the latest FFMPEG and now i am trying to compile and install the latest FFMPEG-PHP but an coming across the error "make: *** [ffmpeg_frame.lo] Error 1" [10:37] when drives changed from hdX to sdX, is that because IDE is now under SCSI emulation or SATA emulation? is there a way back to plain ol' IDE? not being able to burn CDs is very embarrasing! [10:37] that was aimed at infinityxi, sorry [10:37] this is stopping the FFMPEG-PHP from compiling properly [10:37] actually, you know what? [10:37] that was OVER 80 GIGS OF DATA [10:37] can someone help to resolve this issue ? [10:37] how can i display all my environment variable??? [10:37] Surlent777: wow how did that happen [10:37] infinityxi, iceroot: swfdec and adobe flash [10:37] in the shell of course [10:38] I haven't the slightest clue! [10:38] Does anyone know how to limit the boundaries of the smaller resolution display in a dual screen set up? [10:38] I have no idea what makes those recup_xxx folders [10:38] Guest86300: env [10:38] Guest86300: also printenv [10:39] thanks [10:39] q0s: i only have adobe's flash in and everything works, maybe having swfdec in messes things up. I cannot confirm that though [10:39] and from what little I saw, it looks like it was mostly txt files...one I saw looked like an XML file and mentioned GNOME_Internet and KDE [10:39] Surlent777: restore from backup sounds like its in order? [10:39] infinityxi, okay. i will check this [10:40] Does anyone know how to limit the boundaries of the smaller resolution display in a dual screen set up? [10:40] try uninstalling swfdec-mozilla and seeing if it works [10:40] hahaha...backups...heh. =/ I hope it isn't that bad. Everything is functioning more or less as I'd expect, aside from the 80GB OF CRAP in /root/.Trash [10:40] Surlent777: yikes thats a lot [10:40] Hello, I have compiled and installed the latest FFMPEG and now i am trying to compile and install the latest FFMPEG-PHP but an coming across the error "make: *** [ffmpeg_frame.lo] Error 1" [10:40] no kidding =((( I was really wondering where all my space went [10:40] this is stopping the FFMPEG-PHP from compiling properly [10:40] Surlent777: if your data is important, get a backup system [10:41] can someone help to resolve this issue ? [10:41] ActionParsnip: Do you know why/how these recup_xxx files would show up? [10:41] I seem to recall seeing a similar phenomenon on one of my USB drives once, too [10:41] I am using 'xinit $@ -- :1 -layout GameLayout', which initializes new X server session for games and I were switching by ctrl+alt+Fx, but now I my game hung up. how to kill X session? [10:42] Surlent777: not sure man, never come across anything like that [10:42] Surlent777: does the file command give any info [10:42] pkkm: if you want restart your x-server ctrl + alt + backspace [10:42] !dontzap [10:42] To re-enable the Ctrl+Alt+Backspace combination that restarts your X server, you can install the "dontzap" package and use the command « sudo dontzap --disable ». The combination Alt+SysRq+K can also be used to obtain a similar effect. [10:42] ActionParsnip: I'm not sure I understand the question [10:42] Hello, I have compiled and installed the latest FFMPEG and now i am trying to compile and install the latest FFMPEG-PHP but an coming across the error "make: *** [ffmpeg_frame.lo] Error 1" [10:43] this is stopping the FFMPEG-PHP from compiling properly [10:43] infinityxi, it works now. seems as would both flash versions mess each oth up. apt should forbid to install both ;) [10:43] ActionParsnip: the files I saw were mostly .txt files [10:43] Surlent777: file is a command [10:43] iceroot: I don't want to restart it, I want to kill it. [10:43] can someone help to resolve this issue ? [10:43] q0s: how did you install them? through firefox? [10:43] Surlent777: the file extension means very little in linux [10:43] Runny Jaunty here and I added the PPA for Open Office 3.1, but the update says packages were 'held' back, what causes that? [10:43] maybe so, but the ones I examined were indeed textual [10:43] structured like XML, I think [10:43] bah [10:43] Surlent777: use the file command against one of your images, or an mp3 or something [10:44] q0s: i usually just stick with adobe as much as flash sucks because I know the other alternatives aren't really on par right now [10:44] game is on ^ alt F9, and I am on ^ alt F7 now [10:44] hm... apparently, after I "edited" the groups in "Users and Groups" I lost my /etc/group, which I restored...somewhat. I got back audio,video,gdm,sudo,admin, but I can't access shutdown/restart, certain System->Administration things (such as User and Groups again, Services, etc) as well as I have no internet connection (I have Atheros, which worked out of the box before) [10:44] Surlent777: it will tell you what it is, it will say the same even if you change the file extension [10:44] wut when I restart X session, probably GDM will start [10:44] *but [10:44] I need help on fixing this (preferably without reinstalling ubuntu 9.04 from scratch) >_> [10:44] ActionParsnip, Runny Jaunty here and I added the PPA for Open Office 3.1, but the update says packages were 'held' back, what causes that? [10:44] Surlent777: so if you run the file command against these random files it will hopefuly not just say "Data" and will hopefully tell you what it is [10:44] Hello, I have compiled and installed the latest FFMPEG and now i am trying to compile and install the latest FFMPEG-PHP but an coming across the error "make: *** [ffmpeg_frame.lo] Error 1" [10:44] infinityxi, i installed swfdec using firefox. but was not as stable as the not-free one is. so i decided later to install flash-nonfree paket with apt. [10:45] can someone help to resolve this issue ? [10:45] mrwes: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [10:45] is there any way of installing gnome 2.26 on ubuntu 8.10? [10:45] pkkm: so? you can ^ alt F7 again and sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop [10:45] mrwes: in future, please simply address the channel [10:45] ActionParsnip: 1. How would this command be invoked, and 2. I already deleted it all [10:45] hrmm [10:45] Surlent777: 2. ah [10:45] Surlent777: 1. its a terminal command [10:45] hm... apparently, after I "edited" the groups in "Users and Groups" I lost my /etc/group, which I restored...somewhat. I got back audio,video,gdm,sudo,admin, but I can't access shutdown/restart, certain System->Administration things (such as User and Groups again, Services, etc) as well as I have no internet connection (I have Atheros, which worked out of the box before)... umm I need help on fixing this (preferably without reinstalling [10:45] yes [10:46] but what arguments? [10:46] =_= [10:46] Surlent777: file ~/Pictures/image.jpg for example [10:46] hi all [10:46] ok [10:46] ActionParsnip, well thank :) [10:46] Surlent777: file [10:46] noted === sean is now known as Guest40504 [10:46] I'm sorry for leaving last night. my internet crashed [10:46] I was thinking I needed -e but that did nothing [10:46] T-KILLER: no clue, I never heard of FFMPEG-PHP before, sorry [10:46] I have compiled and installed the latest FFMPEG and now I am trying to compile and install the latest FFMPEG-PHP but am coming across the error "make: *** [ffmpeg_frame.lo] Error 1" someone help fix this please ? [10:47] I would like some help please.. [10:47] Surlent777: if you use it on a jpg, then rename the jpg to png (not convert) file will still see the structure of a jpg and tell you its a jpg [10:47] does anyone working on macpro, I just have one prob with my kbd.... [10:47] well, I just got a crap-ton of HD space back from this ordeal...went from ~60 to ~147GB...that's pretty awesome in and of itself [10:47] FFMPEG-PHP is a PHP extention to allow PHP to access video header data such as length, fps, codecs used, bitrate etc etc [10:47] nixot: I would like some help too >_>... but wait your turn~ -_- [10:47] ActionParsnip: Good to know; thanks for the advice [10:47] T-KILLER: http://forums.theplanet.com/index.php?showtopic=90852 [10:47] my question is: Is there a list of repositories I can add to my eee pc? [10:47] Surlent777: file extensions are a windows thing that they refuse to let go of from the old 6.3 filename days [10:47] hm... apparently, after I "edited" the groups in "Users and Groups" I lost my /etc/group, which I restored...somewhat. I got back audio,video,gdm,sudo,admin, but I can't access shutdown/restart, certain System->Administration things (such as User and Groups again, Services, etc) as well as I have no internet connection (I have Atheros, which worked out of the box before)... umm I need help on fixing this (preferably without reinstalling [10:47] zhurai, I don't mean to interrupt. [10:47] 8.3 sorry [10:48] seems to be on par with your error though there is very little info to go on besides that error [10:48] ActionParsnip: Maybe, but it is terribly useful for organization [10:48] nixot: meh [10:48] zhurai: :P [10:48] Surlent777: oh totally, you can name them anything you want [10:48] infinityxi: thanks, just going to take a look [10:48] Surlent777: no they really aren't because they are arbitrary [10:48] i can name my text file textfile.mp3 [10:48] screwed up my /etc/group file, and now everything else is getting screwed up in ubuntu, and I have a frickin adware in this windows partition =_= [10:48] Surlent777: you'll find folks use .sh for shell scripts and .py for python but it doesnt make any difference :) [10:49] it just makes the filetype wrong in windows [10:49] ActionParsnip: I was meaning that it's nice when people stick to convention....for instance, it'd be great to know if ~/image is a picture or a tar file, for instance, without having to do extra work [10:49] infinityxi: Why would you want to do that? [10:49] apparently, after I "edited" the groups in "Users and Groups" I lost my /etc/group, which I restored...somewhat. I got back audio,video,gdm,sudo,admin, but I can't access shutdown/restart, certain System->Administration things (such as User and Groups again, Services, etc) as well as I have no internet connection (I have Atheros, which worked out of the box before)... umm I need help on fixing this (preferably without reinstalling ubuntu [10:49] Surlent777: precisely, but you can cross name if you wish [10:49] yeah, I realize that [10:49] infinityxi: I have followed the thread you posted and it is of no use. I'm using the 32 bit version of Ubuntu Server 9... Please help specific to 32 bit, thanks [10:49] Surlent777: or even make your own extension up that is very long [10:49] another question...in a makefile i have this line : "ARCH_DIR = $(if $(filter $(ARCH),x86_64 i386),x86,$(ARCH))" ....i would like to know the value of the ARCH-DIR variable....how could i do that? [10:49] hm, I should make a timer that auto says that every 10 minutes or so =_=...bleh [10:49] T-KILLER: sorry about that [10:49] I got that idea from the "dot folders" [10:49] nixot: what are you talking about? [10:50] but yes, thanks for the advice, everyone [10:50] Guest86300: echo $ARCH_DIR [10:50] time to go to sleep, it's 3am here [10:50] ActionParsnip: i tried.....but nothing [10:50] ...wow, he's in same timezone as me? [10:50] infinityxi: I read the bit about the ffmpeg source code containing a file that was mis-named but i checked the source code folder and the file is named fine with the sextention *.lo not *.loT which was mentioned in the thred [10:51] In OpenOffice, How do I hide the "Page Number" from the first page in a document? [10:51] ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/177071/ [10:51] lightbricko: i'd ask in #openoffice.org [10:51] ActionParsnip: ok, thxc [10:51] Guest86300: why are you doing basic stuff like that as root? [10:51] lightbricko: http://www.tipsfor.us/2007/05/05/tip-of-the-day-hiding-the-first-page-number-in-openoffice/ [10:51] it's all over the web [10:52] can anyone point me to any information at all that could help me troubleshoot why I can't burn CDs? I don't know where to start. [10:52] OK, 1 more thing. Seems that there's a /root/.local/share/Trash or something like that [10:52] just how many Trash folders does one system need?! [10:52] meganox: what happens when you try? What apps have you tried to burn with? [10:52] is there a list of repositories that I could add to my computer anywhere on the web? [10:52] infinityxi: Thx [10:52] Surlent777: one for each user [10:52] long story but i have to know which is the value of ARCH_DIR could u help me? [10:52] !trash | Surlent777 [10:52] Surlent777: The location of Trash has changed since 8.04, it is now located in ~/.local/share/Trash | Looking for the trash in previous versions: ~/.Trash [10:52] =O [10:53] hm... apparently, after I "edited" the groups in "Users and Groups" I lost my /etc/group, which I restored...somewhat. I got back audio,video,gdm,sudo,admin, but I can't access shutdown/restart, certain System->Administration things (such as User and Groups again, Services, etc) as well as I have no internet connection (I have Atheros, which worked out of the box before)... umm I need help on fixing this (preferably without reinstalling [10:53] I still have a ~./Trash folder [10:53] nixot: repositories for what? [10:53] =_= [10:53] does this mean that it is now obsolete? [10:53] x.x [10:53] Guest86300: if the variable is not being set a value it will report as nothing, set it to something first, then if it gets changed you know the command is working [10:53] nixot: specific software for what? [10:53] I should go to sleep, almost 3 AM, but I need this fixed ;-;;;;; [10:53] Ermm [10:54] Guest86300: why are you doing stuff like that as root, are you logged in as root? [10:54] almost 6 am here [10:54] yes i'm logged as root [10:54] Guest86300: why? [10:54] ActionParsnip: all the available gnome apps, UNetbootlin. I just get burn errors 3/4 of the way through every time, tried different media, i found some stuff online about scsi or ata emulation of ide but i can't find it again [10:54] infinityxi: I'm not really specific about what software, it's really a variety of programs that I can't find in what repositories it came with. [10:54] Hey all! Any link/help on adding an icon to the Panel, that tells if certain program is running or not? Could simply be like red/green light and program name when mouse is over it.. any help would be nice.. [10:54] prancing around as root is pretty dangerous [10:54] msg me thx.. [10:54] infinityxi: I'm a high school student, and I have school tomorrow, that's what I mean -_- [10:54] meganox: did you md5 check the iso? are you burning as slowly as possible? [10:55] ActionParsnip: i thought it might have something to do with the change from /dev/hdX to /dev/sdX [10:55] because i'm developping some kernel for my bachelor's degree and i need root privileges [10:55] apparently, after I "edited" the groups in "Users and Groups" I lost my /etc/group, which I restored...somewhat. I got back audio,video,gdm,sudo,admin, but I can't access shutdown/restart, certain System->Administration things (such as User and Groups again, Services, etc) as well as I have no internet connection (I have Atheros, which worked out of the box before)... umm I need help on fixing this (preferably without reinstalling ubuntu [10:55] infinityxi: Debian repositories preferably. [10:55] kernel modules [10:55] brb getting my charger [10:55] ok, whose Trash is in .local here? Root again, or mine? [10:55] ActionParsnip: isos are fine, also all the GUI tools try to burn at max speed no matter what I select [10:55] Guest86300: ok well you know all about root account enablement being bad and full access possibly breaking stuff [10:55] meganox: brasero doesnt [10:56] *gnome-system-tools apparently actually O_o [10:56] meganox: just before you hit the last burn button, click properties [10:56] apparently, after I "edited" the groups in "Users and Groups" I lost my /etc/group, which I restored...somewhat. I got back audio,video,gdm,sudo,admin, but I can't access shutdown/restart, certain System->Administration things (gnome-system-tools) as well as I have no internet connection (I have Atheros, which worked out of the box before)... umm I need help on fixing this (preferably without reinstalling ubuntu 9.04 from scratch) >_> [10:56] ActionParsnip: i have not understand [10:56] back [10:56] ActionParsnip: yes, i select the lowest speed but then the output tells me it's attempting the highest speed [10:56] relax zhurai, your last message still on screen [10:56] is^ [10:57] Guest86300: you can do all that stuff on a need to do basis using sudo [10:57] Guest86300: enabling the root account is not needed nor advised for security reasons. You can access anything you need as user using sudo and gksudo [10:57] =_= [10:57] yes yes i know but i prefer this way.... :D [10:57] ActionParsnip: i though lots of people had had similar problems, but i'm just not finding anything relevant today [10:57] I have tried unetbootin-windows-323.exe , to try and make a bootable flash drive. I select the Ubuntu ISO, and it goes through the process OK. Then when I restart to try to boot from the flash drive, it says "boot failed". [10:57] ...this .local trash seems to be much the same as the /root/.Trash [10:57] you can write your code under your personal account and when you need to do anything that needs root, you can always sudo or gksudo like ActionParsnip suggestd [10:57] infinityxi: I was looking for debian repositories... I'm a bit of a linux noob [10:58] nixot: packages.debian.org is a good place to start [10:58] what's the command to open xorg in gedit? [10:58] hm... might have something to do with: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/gnome-system-tools/+bug/236305 (my bug...somewhat) ? [10:58] nixot: they have info and lists on that site [10:58] =_= [10:58] Guest86300: root is common to all *nix systems so hackers need nowonly guess your root password, if the account is disabled there is a 0% chance of success, an attacker would have to gues your user name and password [10:58] Name141: Try redownloading the ISO [10:58] Surlent777: the MD5Sum came up fine [10:58] OK [10:58] cyberjorge: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf [10:58] Surlent777: this happened with DSL also [10:58] Name141: Then I have no idea =/ Unetbootin has always worked for me [10:59] Guest86300: you can use the command "sudo -i" to get into a root shell [10:59] is anybody working with macpro and ubuntu 9.04 ?????????????????????????? [10:59] I just used it to install 9.04 on a friend's laptop last week [10:59] meganox: ok thank u [10:59] no, we have taste [10:59] infnityxi: Should I add it like that to the package manager? [10:59] Guest86300: running web apps (especialy irc clients) is massively foolhardy as these are exposed to the world and can easily be captured and their access level gained. If this is a user level the system access is massively reduced [10:59] I've created an ext3 partition on a usb drive, but when I plug it in it mounts as root (automatically). So, I can't write to it. How can I change that? [10:59] Guest86300: the account is not disabled to annoy you or to get in your way, its dont for a million very good reasons [11:00] i'm using irc chat in another machine...not in the one i'm logged in as root [11:00] Surlent777: should I try some kind of manual ways of going about it? [11:00] Guest86300: i'm just telling you why logging on as root is hideosly bad [11:00] ActionParsnip: can you tell me, the "s" in "/dev/sda1", does it stand for SCSI or SATA? [11:00] ok now i know....thank u [11:00] Name141: hmm, idea. Try deleting the parition you have on the USB drive, and then manually re-creating a Fat32 [11:00] zhurai: thanks, one more... how about menu.list under grub? [11:01] partition* [11:01] Guest86300: i'd ask in #bash for your script thing. They will have a lot of info [11:01] Guest86300: but what if you accidentally run a script or a program that has unchecked access to your file system [11:01] or what if you do something dumb (happens to the best of us) [11:01] are there some CUI analogs to Synaptic? [11:01] what is wrong with ubuntu? has something changed? there are rare updates for january, and no body replies to the bugs i have submitted, about craches in nautilus, acpi issues on my laptop... [11:01] not being root covers your ass a lot better [11:01] Surlent777: I'm unable to delete partition on the flash drive in Disk Management [11:01] wat [11:01] zhurai: sudo /boot/grub/menu.list doesn't work [11:01] use sudo gparted [11:01] meganox: my PATA disks pick up as sda in all my systems. I'm not sure [11:01] cyberjorge: i think you forgot the gedit part [11:02] cyberjorge: that is a text file. Use sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst [11:02] ActionParsnip: OK thanks anyway [11:02] and gksudo instead of sudo [11:02] or that [11:02] will keep trawling [11:02] is possible to send all sound to pulseaudio using the spdif? I now have sound on some programs and some not [11:02] yeah ActionParsnip made me learn something today. use gksudo [11:02] icqn, that's how FOSS works... [11:02] infinityxi: gksudo is for gui apps like gedit, nautilus etc [11:02] infinityxi: sudo is for stuff like, mv, ln, cp, rm etc [11:02] Lint01: What do you mean? [11:02] ActionParsnip: i know you told me earlier, tell the other guy [11:02] Surlent777: Would it be possible just to have a LIVE disk version of it with it on Flash rather than DVD [11:03] infinityxi: :D [11:03] ActionParsnip: I am telling you that i learned this from you earlier, and i am passing on good info :-) [11:03] ActionParsnip: I've noticed that like, in KDE for instance, gksudo nautilus --no-desktop won't work, but changing gksudo to sudo makes it work [11:03] Name141: I assumed that's what you were doing to begin with [11:03] hi there [11:03] Surlent777: kde uses kdesudo to achieve the same end [11:03] Guys, what would be the easiest way to transfer a file from one Ubuntu machine to the Other? [11:03] ActionParsnip: But gksudo works with other things under KDE, such as Synaptic [11:03] Surlent777: gksudo 'nautilus --no-desktop' works for me, for some reason that command needs quotes [11:04] how well does 9.10 perform? is it better then 9.04? [11:04] bluepencil: sftp [11:04] Surlent777: Yes. I tried copying the files manually on to the flash drive, still no dice. [11:04] ActionParsnip, Surlent777: kdesu, kdesudo doesn't exist. [11:04] Lint01, bull...t, it is how ubuntu works, do not mix all in one cup [11:04] bluepencil: shared folder on one system [11:04] unimatrix9: 9.10 doesn't perform yet ;) [11:04] unimatrix9: you from the future? [11:04] Flannel daily build [11:04] Flannel: works here, strange. Maybe because i upgraded(?) [11:04] ActionParsnip: i did share one folder, but when i say Connect to Server, i type the IP address of the target machine, and it states cant open smb share. [11:04] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ [11:04] can someone with jaunty put their /etc/group file on pastebin for me please? [11:04] unimatrix9: #ubuntu+1, 9.10 doesn't exist, Karmic does. [11:04] 9.10 daily build [11:05] bluepencil: can you ping the ip? [11:05] anyway, are there some CUI analogs to Synaptic? [11:05] Yes mate [11:05] ..x.x [11:05] aptitude [11:05] Name141: Copying manually is a poor idea unless you know what you're doing. My advice is to gksudo gparted, unmount the USB, delete the partition, apply, recreate Fat32, apply, remount the USB, open unetbootin, choose the iso, hit OK [11:05] hi guys, how do i edit the registry in ubuntu [11:05] !samba | bluepencil [11:05] Hey, is there a way to change the default program to open a for example .php file, via console. Because with open with, choose application, it does not save my preferences... [11:05] bluepencil: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT. [11:05] Lint01: aptitude should work [11:05] so i guess we dont know yet.. [11:05] Surlent777: eh? [11:05] ActionParsnip: i go Connect to Server: Windows Share etc [11:05] Surlent777: those are linux commands [11:05] hi guys, how do i edit the registry in ubuntu <-- unless you mean gconf, there isn't a registry [11:05] ...ohhhhh [11:05] you're on Windows [11:05] uh [11:05] unimatrix9: Again, #ubuntu+1 is for the development version, this channel is not. [11:05] huh [11:05] bluepencil: then i'd check samba settings [11:05] Surlent777: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [11:05] jimi_: what are you trying to do? [11:06] ok, i see [11:06] hey guys. at startup an application asks for access to my keyring. but there is nothing about any application name. how can i found out whats going on? [11:06] ActionParsnip: could it be that samba isnt active on the other machine? [11:06] Surlent777: that's correct. [11:06] Hey, is there a way to change the default program to open a for example .php file, via console. Because with open with, choose application, it does not save my preferences ? [11:06] ActionParsnip: there are about 50 ubuntu machines here. [11:06] infinityxi, doing a tweak for frame rate performance in wow, im trying to get wow working in ubunutu [11:06] !repeat | DjAngo23 [11:06] DjAngo23: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience [11:06] apparently, after I "edited" the groups in "Users and Groups" I lost my /etc/group, which I restored...somewhat. I got back audio,video,gdm,sudo,admin, but I can't access shutdown/restart, certain System->Administration things (gnome-system-tools) as well as I have no internet connection (I have Atheros, which worked out of the box before)... umm I need help on fixing this (preferably without reinstalling ubuntu 9.04 from scratch) >_> || [11:06] I have compiled and installed the latest 32 bit FFMPEG and now I am trying to compile and install the latest FFMPEG-PHP but am coming across the error "make: *** [ffmpeg_frame.lo] Error 1" someone help fix this please ? [11:06] jimi_: oh so you mean in wine [11:06] =_= the more wait, the more I think up of, the longer my message apparently [11:06] infinityxi, aye [11:06] Surlent777: maybe I'll just go back to hardy till the next LTS.. if I go back [11:06] bluepencil: you will have an smbclient app on each system, you need to install samba on the server system so the sharing will work [11:06] infinityxi: isn't aptitude CLI package manager? [11:07] Name141: I'm actually not sure how to do that under Windows...but I know that reformatting the partition makes it work just fine...try just doing regular format from the right-click menu [11:07] Lint01: Isn't that what you asked for? [11:07] Lint01: oh i thought that's what you were asking for [11:07] infinityxi, im just following a tut for it on winehq and it says to open the reg editor [11:07] !patience [11:07] The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines [11:07] ActionParsnip: Ah ok, makes sense, thanks. [11:07] Surlent777: I have reformatted it many times. [11:07] ActionParsnip: The Windows share works fine when i connect from Win machines to this ubuntu box. [11:07] Name141: All I know is that manually killing it and doing it again works for me. And I have gotten the 9.04 ISO's to work, both 32 and 64, with unetbootin [11:08] bluepencil: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install samba [11:08] ActionParsnip: its only when i try to connect to the win share on this machine from an Ubuntu machine that it freak sout. [11:08] zhurai: pasting it now [11:08] ActionParsnip: Ok sweet dude, going to try that now. [11:08] jimi_: in console type in "wine regedit" [11:08] ActionParsnip: Will let you know how it worked out. [11:08] bluepencil: that will give you a sharing server [11:08] meganox: k, thanks [11:08] Surlent777: I remember getting a USB hard drive to work, so I don't understand why a flash drive wouldn't. [11:08] infinityxi: I need one with text user interface, not just command-line [11:08] Lint01: run "aptitide" === Cueball|2 is now known as Cueball [11:08] Surlent777: given the fact that the USB hard drive was a disaster slow idea [11:08] Lint01: it is a text user interface [11:08] infinityxi, ty :) === amachu1 is now known as Raj [11:09] try typing aptitude [11:09] see what happens. [11:09] Surlent777: Perhaps I should try doing the same, IE: installing to the flash drive ? [11:09] Name141: Unetbootin has never failed me, is all I know. It's all but foolproof...I'm not sure if formatting the drive is required, but I do it anyway to make sure there's nothing left over that shouldn't be [11:09] Surlent777: from the DVD [11:09] wait, since when does Ubuntu have a DVD? [11:09] Surlent777: "CD" [11:09] Surlent777: Good long while now. [11:09] Hi can i use IE in ubuntu [11:09] ie version what? [11:09] Flannel: I thought that was the so-called "Super" Ubuntu? [11:09] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=560404 <-- same bug/error as me, but nobody's really replying, so it doesn't help... [11:10] ActionParsnip, ok seems ive already got it. [11:10] Hi, has anybody in here tried 9.04 FINAL on the Asus Eee 900? I see some bugs reported with the beta that is noted "Hopefully fixed by final", but are they?? [11:10] Raj: ie4linux [11:10] ActionParsnip, on the file serving machine. [11:10] Surlent777: I have been thinking about getting the dell version of Ubuntu anyway that's on DVD [11:10] or whatever it was [11:10] infinityxi: oh, really. thanks! [11:10] bluepencil: ok thats good [11:10] Surlent777: Erm, what? No. Regular Ubuntu releases a DVD as well. I've got no idea what you think this super ubuntu is ;) [11:10] Lint01: np [11:10] ActionParsnip, anything special i need to do on the client's machine's side? [11:10] Flannel: It isn't on ubuntu.com is all I know [11:10] zhurai: http://pastebin.com/d36cb880e [11:10] Any latest IE because Iam familier with that [11:10] and just wiki for Super Ubuntu for info on that [11:10] is super ubuntu the one with the bonzai buddy installed? [11:11] Surlent777: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/release/ [11:11] What's the difference anyway with the dell version of Ubuntu? Do they have anything special for Dell hardware [11:11] zhurai: "testy" is an admin user so you can replace that username with yours. I removed other usernames so there may be extra commas you need to remove [11:11] (compatability) [11:11] k [11:11] Hi anybody reply me [11:11] Name141: well if you buy a machine w/ ubuntu installed, its pretty much guaranteed everything will work. [11:11] Name141: I think they have some dell repos and packages for drivers they ship, as well as some branding [11:11] infinityx: With your help I managed to install the program I needed. [11:12] I mean of course, infinityxi [11:12] Hi anybody reply me <-- IE isn't made for Linux. [11:12] oh and the mp3 and DVD playback is paid for and legit [11:12] infinityxi: So I might should try it if I have a problem with something not working off bat from the regular CDs? [11:12] infinityxi: With your help I installed the program I needed from a repository... Thank you very much :D [11:12] Raj: zhurai already said, ies4linux [11:12] Name141: Yes, they have added a proprietary graphics driver for the 10" version, and they have made their own interface (a bit like the Xandros/Linus distros but with a twist) [11:12] what the ...?! THIS WASN [11:12] Name141: it all depends on your hardware, theres a lot of different dells out there. [11:12] 'T HERE BEFORE [11:13] Raj: the fonts are a bit different but it will show up gross rendering bugs in IE [11:13] Dells are weird, the same model may have dozens of different hardware configs [11:13] and this is annoying in the windows world [11:13] zhurai: Thankyou I have no internet connection but i want to install codecs for many media formats such as mp3 etc., how can i do [11:13] Raj: What exactly are you trying to do? [11:13] hi folks [11:13] what does the DVD have that the CD doesn't? [11:13] IndyGunFreak: mine didn't come with Ubuntu, it came with XP. However, I have been having a problem with the NIC (Possible the new e1000e vs e1000 module?) since Intrepid and up [11:13] if you have no internet connection [11:13] how are you on IRC? [11:14] IndyGunFreak: I was guessing that maybe the Dell DVD would have the correct thing already/ [11:14] ? [11:14] Name141: i would say thats unlikely [11:14] IndyGunFreak: Ok. [11:14] Name141: the dell version of ubuntu, is made for dell pc's that they install ubuntu on... i mean it might work.. but its a crapshoot. [11:14] Name141: you might have to mess with ndiswrapper [11:14] oh man, never mind...I need to get to bed... [11:15] as much as i hate messing with ndiswrapper or recommending it [11:15] if you have no other option but to use that NIC [11:15] infinityxi: It's odd that it just went "BOOOOOOOM" in Intrepid and now Jaunty. [11:15] oh [11:15] Name141: i've really never had an NIC not work w/ Ubuntu.. wireless, is another story. [11:15] infinityxi: It worked perfect in Hardy [11:16] sounds like a bug report [11:16] IndyGunFreak: it works sometimes, doens't work sometimes.. when it works.. if I reset the modem/router it wont work again till a reboot/blue moon [11:16] IndyGunFreak: http://hardware4linux.info/component/34798/ [11:16] that's all I find on it [11:17] Name141: are you using 64bit? [11:17] No [11:17] IndyGunFreak: I was thinking about buying the AMD 64 bit ,but got the intel dual core. [11:17] (not that that matters) [11:18] Name141: well, that wasn't the point, some drivers are still shaky w/ the 64bit distros... i was goign to suggest trying the 32bit, even if you had 64bit hardware.. [11:18] Name141: how does lspci identify your ethernet controlle? [11:18] IndyGunFreak: It wasn't shaky in Hardy. But soon as I tried the LIVE CD on Intrepid and Jaunty, it just sits there and tries to connect but never does. [11:18] NIC controller... sorry, tired [11:19] IndyGunFreak: The same as Windows [11:19] zzz [11:19] IndyGunFreak: Intel 82562V-2 10/100 Network Connection [11:19] yeah worst case scenario would be to use ndiswrapper but i hate that solution because if you get a kernel update, you usually have to go back and redo it. [11:19] hi peeps, i have just visted intellinuxgraphics.org and they have a driver i wana test so i can get WoW working....i have downloaded tem but im not sure how to run and install them cause im new at linux [11:19] infinityxi: ndiswrapper? [11:19] also there is a 2d and a 3d driver, do i need to install both? [11:19] Name141: lspci is that the output of lspci or is that how its identified in windows? [11:19] Name141: yeah it basically uses a windows driver for your hardware in linux [11:20] it's a very last resort sort of solution [11:20] IndyGunFreak: I checked before , and yes it is the same [11:20] infinityxi: maybe I should try that on my sound too, the sound was low low lowww [11:20] infinityxi: (in ubuntu) [11:21] Name141: you checked all the volume controls? mine was low on this laptop until i upped the general speaker volume [11:22] infinityxi: Yes [11:22] jimi_: what graphic card do you have ? [11:22] ndiswrapper is just for network devices though. should have been more specific [11:22] infinityxi: I had everything to 100% and still couldn't compare to restarting and the windows login blowing my ears off [11:22] intel integrated [11:22] erUSUL, intel integrated, its a laptop [11:23] jimi_: and 3d accel is not working by default ? [11:23] erUSUL, i can run WoW, i just need to sort th frame rate out and apparently thats what this driver has fixed [11:24] There are a few threads out there about low sound on 9.04 [11:24] worth checking out [11:24] jimi_: are you on jaunty ? [11:24] infinityxi: yeah sound keeps changing with every restart [11:24] erUSUL, here is the link to the website im downloading them from http://intellinuxgraphics.org/2009Q1.html ......yeah I am on jaunty [11:24] infinityxi: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/217789 [11:25] Name141: doesn't look like you're the only one w/ the connection problem (unless this is you) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1156279 [11:25] ciao [11:26] IndyGunFreak: I'm still Name141 on the forums [11:26] * cllaudyu bored [11:26] IndyGunFreak: same PC also he has [11:26] jimi_: all those drivers are in source. and is far from trivial to install them... i recommend to find a ppa where to get them compiled [11:26] !ppa | jimi_ [11:26] jimi_: With Launchpad's Personal Package Archives (PPA), you can build and publish binary Ubuntu packages for multiple architectures simply by uploading an Ubuntu source package to Launchpad. See https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart. [11:27] IndyGunFreak: maybe I should just give up on Linux. [11:27] ciao [11:27] !lista [11:27] Sorry, I don't know anything about lista [11:27] erUSUL, ok i dont really understand that but i will give it a read and give it a go lol...ty :) [11:27] IndyGunFreak: this also happens in Fedora10 [11:27] Name141: thats up to you really.. i wouldn't, but only you can make that call... maybe try another distro. [11:28] IndyGunFreak: as I said.. lol [11:28] jimi_: ppa are repositories with packages [11:28] bonjour [11:28] erUSUL, like the deb things [11:28] jimi_: yep [11:28] Name141: well theres more out there than just ubuntu and fedora. you could try pclinuxos or opensuse.. but usually ubuntu and fedora have about the best hardware support (in my experience) [11:28] erUSUL, ok im reading the packaging guide now [11:28] !notes | jimi_ also check the notes about intel gaph [11:29] jimi_ also check the notes about intel gaph: Ubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope) release notes can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyJackalope/ReleaseNotes [11:29] IndyGunFreak: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=705866 [11:29] hello [11:29] IndyGunFreak: the sound is also a problem it appears [11:29] how do I get ALSA again on my sound defs? [11:30] Name141: I really don'tknow to be truthful.. i dn't have any of those issues on my acer [11:30] I have installed ubuntu in my PC that does not have internet connection but i want to install some media codecs such as mp3,3gp Etc., how can i do ? [11:30] zhurai: I am in my friend system === MaWaLe1 is now known as MaWaLe [11:30] zhurai: that is in my friend browsing centre [11:30] zhurai: pls help me to install the codecs [11:30] yesterday I've started getting the sounfd much lesser than 12% than normal [11:30] and alsda wasn't there any more [11:30] IndyGunFreak: I reckon I'll just keep saying what I said on my other computer "maybe the next release". [11:30] I've resbooted ( live session ) and isn't there still [11:31] rebooted* [11:31] is there any body to help me [11:31] Raj: yes [11:31] damn [11:31] IndyGunFreak: it's odd though that my old computer, besides the VooDoo3 3DFX 8MB , works perfect right off bat. Even with a Microsoft NIC that uses the "tulip" drive. [11:31] driver === blastoise is now known as blastoise_ [11:32] Name141: i guess i've just been incredibly lucky, other than wireless, i've really never had a driver issue w/ Linux.. and my wireless has worked fine since 8.04 [11:32] well, since 8.10.. 8.04 i had to apply a bunch of patches and crap. [11:32] somebody can you help me.. when i apply the burn effect when minimizing windows , it works only at compizconfig setting manager windows but other window.. how to apply to other window? [11:32] hello i've just descovered the nice "envyng" package looking for something similar for the audio driver!! [11:33] oDesk: lol, i'm not sure if [11:33] I think 8.10 should have been called "look what we did to Hardy" [11:33] but anyway. [11:33] oDesk: i'm' not sure if nice is the word i'd use for envy [11:33] hi, is there a guide for upgrading from gutsy? [11:33] Name141: you can say that for any release to be truthful... === windsok^ is now known as windsok === Mack|away is now known as Mack [11:34] hey, i have this ext partition that i am trying to dump ( using strings ) to a file. now, i am pretty positive this partition is corrupted because every time i read to a certain point my computer freezes unrecoverably. is there a way to get the data off? [11:34] ext3* [11:34] IndyGunFreak: nice, because i love it =) since it's solved my Graphic Adaptor [11:34] oDesk: wait till it breaks it.. you won't like it so much [11:34] IndyGunFreak: now i'm looking! for my Audio detector LOVE =) [11:35] somebody can you help me.. when i apply the burn effect when minimizing windows , it works only at compizconfig setting manager windows but not to other window.. how to apply to other window? [11:35] !compiz | hakimda [11:35] hakimda: Compiz (compositing window manager), for a howto see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager and more help #compiz [11:35] hey, what's the best way to install ubuntu on a usb pen drive (with a proper install, not as an equivalent to a live-cd)? [11:36] i need someone to explain what happen to my I can only use tty1-6 no more tty7 GUI after upgrade from 8.04 to 9.04 [11:36] amagee: are you trying to install ON a pendrive, or boot a pen drive, to install it on your hard drive [11:36] IndyGunFreak: install ON a pendrive [11:36] amagee: or for that matter, just use a pen drive as a "live cd". [11:37] amagee: ah, theres tutorials out there.. most with marginal success at best, i've never had much luck w/ it [11:37] why not just install normally? [11:37] oh ok, so there's not one favourite way by ubuntu people? [11:37] i can't install normally coz i want to run it on lab computers that i don't own [11:37] ic. [11:37] * cllaudyu listens to VIBE FM - Dancefloor Radio [11:38] i'll probably try this.. does this seem reasonable? http://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-ubuntu-904-persistent-install-windows/ [11:38] you can try it... [11:38] kinda amusing that it requires a windows tool to install linux :) [11:38] amagee: is it a requirement that the filesystem is writable? [11:38] Boohbah: yeah, i need to be able to install stuff and modify files etc [11:39] amagee: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent [11:40] ham9000, you must upgrade in sequence of all other releases to get jaunty [11:40] is tor no longer in the repos [11:40] Boohbah: looks very interesting.. have you had success with these? [11:41] hey, i have this ext3 partition that i am trying to dump ( using strings ) to a file. now, i am pretty positive this partition is corrupted because every time i read to a certain point my computer freezes unrecoverably. is there a way to get the data off? [11:41] thanks [11:41] amagee: i have not tried it myself, only made a non-writable install image [11:41] i figure it out.... [11:41] hmm ok [11:43] does anyone working on macpro, I just have one prob with my kbd.... [11:43] blastoise_: if the computer is freezing then I suspect the HDD is dying [11:43] one more [11:43] when I'm trying to mount the FAT drive using iocharset=utf8, i'm getting boot-time warning that "utf-8 is not recommended because the file system will be read-only". But any other value makes lon file names tollok like garbage. What should I do? [11:43] amagee: why dont you use usb disk creator from system.admin > usb creator [11:43] blastoise_: might be worth running something like Spinrite on it [11:43] what is wrong with ubuntu? has something changed? there are rare updates for january, and no body replies to the bugs i have submitted, about crashes in nautilus, acpi issues on my laptop... [11:43] blastoise_: if your disk is genuinely corrupt data recovery is unlikely without help of a specialist [11:43] how to change the gnome logo beside the application to mac logo? [11:43] dammmmmmmmmiiiiiiiiiiittttttttttttttttt [11:43] damn, not "read-only", "case sensitive", that is [11:44] mechdave: hi [11:44] icqn: there was update last week [11:44] Yo indus [11:46] I have problem playing som podcasts in rythembox. The programs shows up, but would`nt play: http://podkast.nrk.no/program/radioresepsjonen.rss [11:47] I have compiled and installed the latest 32 bit FFMPEG and now I am trying to compile and install the latest FFMPEG-PHP but am coming across the error "make: *** [ffmpeg_frame.lo] Error 1" someone help fix this please ? [11:47] ub_: just that feed? [11:47] anyone here know how to get 3D working on 9.04 [11:48] ozzmosis: yes? [11:48] ub_: looks like a valid feed viewing it in Firefox [11:48] Hello room [11:48] how to change the gnome logo beside the application to mac logo? [11:49] just need lil help about KDE desktop [11:49] ub_: Rhythmbox might be choking on the URLs of the MP3s [11:49] ub_: they're also using an unusual number of redirects [11:49] at the moment i am installing KDE package files through synaptic package manager [11:49] ub_: does RB do any logging? [11:49] ub_: isn't Rhythmbox R.I.P? [11:49] Lint01: really? [11:49] so after that will i be able to choose between GNOME OR KDE at boot up session? [11:50] Helloooooooooo any 1 there???? [11:50] Is the ftp port 21 service off by default? === Mack is now known as Mack|away [11:50] because im trying to ftp localhost 21 and it states connection refused. [11:51] ozzmosis: I think I've read than 0.12 was the last release [11:51] bluepencil: I think all services are off by default [11:51] HELP NEEDED ABOUT KDE????? [11:51] ozzmosis, ah ok, how would i turn ftp on for instance? [11:51] Lint01: sounds a bit odd .. maybe someone will fork it [11:51] bluepencil: Administration -> Services, I think === hello is now known as Guest931 [11:52] :-$ [11:52] ozzmosis: Ok, it works in firefox. No logging in RB. just "Status: failed" when i click one of the casts [11:52] can any1 help me out there????????????????? [11:52] does anyone working on macpro, I just have one prob with my kbd.... [11:53] I need help. I upgraded from hardy to jaunty. And now X is dead somehow. I have tried fixing it with recovery mode, I have tried autorepair packages and nothing works. Which log files can I look at to distinguish the problem? [11:53] bluepencil: might have to apt-get install an FTP server first. never done it. file transfer is more secure over SSH these days, a lot of people just use that. [11:53] i said help?????? [11:53] thuglife999: tell ur question [11:53] !ask [11:53] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [11:53] ub_: probably a bug [11:54] I have tried xfix, dpkg Repair Broken packages but nothing works. I am stuck [11:54] ozzmosis: What kind of mediaplayer do you use? [11:55] ozzmosis, hey man, if you were 10.0.0.1 and wanted a file called Bob.txt from /home/bob on 10.0.0.2, what commands would you use to retrieve it? (via ssh)? [11:55] ub_: RhythmBox in Ubuntu or Winamp in XP [11:55] foobar in win7 [11:56] indus: i am going to install KDE on ubuntu8.10 [11:56] bluepencil: scp bob@10.0.0.2:Bob.txt . [11:56] thuglife999: and >? [11:56] ozzmosis, lol, thats it? [11:56] bluepencil: yup [11:56] indus: will i be able to play both applications on both desktops [11:56] ozzmosis, lol, k thanks dude. thanks a million. [11:56] is it possible to run an intrepid or jaunty kernel on hardy? [11:56] thuglife999: yes [11:57] bluepencil: except Ubuntu has SSH server disabled by default, so you'll have to enable that (on 10.0.0.2) [11:57] thuglife999: but be prepared to have a menu full of kde and gnome applications [11:57] indus and on login to ubuntu will i get option to boot to which desktop???? [11:57] thuglife999: yes [11:57] ozzmosis, ah ok, in Admin > Services? [11:57] indus: what do you mean menu full of kde applications? [11:58] thuglife999: if u dont, u can specify from login screen i n session [11:58] thuglife999: yeah it mixes [11:58] bluepencil: sudo apt-get install openssh-server === amachu1 is now known as RR [11:58] thuglife999: you'll have a crapload of kde options in your menu [11:58] ozzmosis, sweet dude, thanks [11:58] IndyGunFreak: thuglife999:yeah thats a better way to put it :) [11:58] what do you mean crapload? [11:58] KDE themes are developed fully in C++ [11:58] hello world :) ! [11:58] thats the only thing i don't like about installing another GUI.. if you could separate them.. kde fo kde, gnome for gnome, i'd do it. [11:59] thuglife999: he/she just means a lot of extra menus and kde apps [11:59] i see [11:59] I there any other themes other than this [11:59] does anybody speak french here ? [11:59] but i consider KDE a linux virus, so i wouldn't use it.. but probably xfce, or flux [11:59] Gymnopaul: I do [11:59] moi Gymno [11:59] good morning everybody, i have a silly question as per the usue. [12:00] indus: why ppl go for synaptic package manager than ad/remove programs??? [12:00] !fr Gymnopaul [12:00] Sorry, I don't know anything about fr Gymnopaul [12:00] Is mp3 a proprited codec [12:00] thuglife999:they both are the same, add/remove is just a mini version of synaptic [12:00] ok j'ai une question sur 8.10 : j'ai dans mon tableau de bord un panneau danger "Les informations de mises à jour sont obsolètes" [12:00] Gymnopaul: English... [12:00] thuglife999: if u click add/remove and click advanced , you go to synaptic [12:00] how do I get ALSA again on my sound defs? yesterday I've started getting the sounfd much lesser than 12% than normal and alsda wasn't there any more. I've rebooted ( live jaunty USB session ) and still isn't there. [12:00] !apt [12:00] APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE) [12:00] RR: read the Wikipedia page about mp3 [12:00] indus: since i am a newbie to ubuntu so where will i get a complete command reference of ubuntu terminal [12:01] RR mainly yes, all though lame claims to be a rebuild with no licenced code [12:01] RR: there's a section about that in there [12:01] thuglife999: ok wait a min for that i will give u link [12:01] ozzmosis: What is LTSP [12:01] indus: some time when you ask for help they tell you show us this that??? i am not good with terminal [12:01] i installed wine, then installed exact audio copy, hoping to rip some cds, but it didn't work the way i wanted it to.. now, i uninstalled wine through add/remove but there is still the exact audio copy folder in my applications menu (even though i uninstalled it via wine).. how do i get rid of it? [12:01] RR: no idea. where is that? [12:01] ce n'est pas tres grave gymno [12:01] indus: sure [12:01] ozzmosis, ok dude, so can i go... scp bob@10.0.0.2:/home/bob/bob.txt ? [12:01] Is there a way to try to run dist-upgrade again?? (reinstalling) [12:02] ozzmosis: Linux Terminal Support project [12:02] tu régles cela par rapport à tes updates sources [12:02] bluepencil: no need for the "/home/bob/" bit if you're already logging in as bob@ [12:02] bluepencil: and remember the " . " at the end of the command [12:02] I have compiled and installed the latest 32 bit FFMPEG and now I am trying to compile and install the latest FFMPEG-PHP but am coming across the error "make: *** [ffmpeg_frame.lo] Error 1" someone help fix this please ? [12:02] bluepencil: where . is the current directory [12:02] ozzmosis, aaah ok, thanks [12:03] ozzmosis, oh you mean thats the destination? [12:03] hi [12:03] !dontzap [12:03] To re-enable the Ctrl+Alt+Backspace combination that restarts your X server, you can install the "dontzap" package and use the command « sudo dontzap --disable ». The combination Alt+SysRq+K can also be used to obtain a similar effect. [12:03] ozzmosis, makes sense, thanks again. [12:03] bluepencil: yes, the syntax is similar to cp [12:03] ozzmosis: LTSP is a alternate for windows ThinClient [12:03] indus: where'd you go? [12:04] hi [12:04] !terminal [12:04] The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal [12:04] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal [12:04] same link [12:04] got 'em indus... thankxx [12:04] Is there a way to try to run dist-upgrade again?? (reinstalling) [12:04] to gymno, je voulais dire "software sources" mais mon ubuntu est en anglais [12:04] thuglife999: have fun [12:05] indus: one more question [12:05] now since KDE has been installed [12:05] hi guys, finally I have managed to join the channel :) [12:06] hi, does anyone know how to get rid of a menu item out of the applications menu [12:06] ? [12:06] when i go to the last right side top menu...... where its shutdown/restart icons... i see few new icons... now how will i log on to KDE [12:06] shall i logout from Gnome or what? [12:06] abbazabba: right click on menu > edit menu then you can remove stuff [12:06] thuglife999: what new icons [12:07] it says away.. busy online offline [12:07] indus: you are the bee's knees. [12:07] thuglife999: since you just installed , i suggest you get familiar with these new things before you have any questions :) [12:07] things like that [12:07] bee's knees hmm [12:07] indus: what i am tying to say........ how to logon on to KDE now [12:07] i installed KDE when i was on Gnome [12:07] indus: shall i logout or what? [12:08] ya why not [12:08] I have installed jaunty, and want to reinstall it. How can I do this?? [12:08] thuglife999: log out select kde log in etc [12:08] indus: Aiight and what about the open applications i have on Gnome [12:08] thuglife999 if you want to log into a k session you need to log out of gnome with "altGr printScreen k" and in the gdm screen select kde as the session [12:08] indus: will they remain open or they will be terminated? [12:08] thuglife999: good question [12:08] Anyone have the problem with that when you install compiz ubuntu 9.04 gets slow? [12:08] oh my god [12:09] thuglife999: probably terminated when logging out but check it with terminal command top [12:09] thuglife999 they will be terminated if you lof out [12:09] shervin: same way you installed [12:09] Borttrollad that is very dependent on your hardware, === U-2069 is now known as John_ [12:09] indus: koshari1 got 'em [12:09] let me try now :) [12:09] Borttrollad: compiz requires a good graphics card and will require a reasonable amount of CPU time [12:09] Is vlc 0.8 maintained somewhere for jaunty, or do I simply just add it from the hardy repository? [12:09] BRB folks === John_ is now known as U-2069 [12:10] I have compiled and installed the latest 32 bit FFMPEG and now I am trying to compile and install the latest FFMPEG-PHP but am coming across the error "make: *** [ffmpeg_frame.lo] Error 1" someone help fix this please ? [12:10] indus: dist-upgrade doesnt work [12:10] it just says nothing to update [12:10] hello [12:11] hi [12:11] shervin: you said you want to reinstall [12:11] shervin so you have updated then, what are you trying to acheive? [12:11] when will be released 2.6.30 ? [12:11] shervin: you need to install over this again with live cd [12:11] everything failed, I want this time to run dist-upgrade without running X [12:11] shervin: as in format whole partition [12:11] lukavia you will likely see that kernel in koala [12:11] noooo I dont want to format [12:12] kosharil: after 5 months ?? [12:12] inI just want all the packages to be reinstalled one more time, because I believe something failed during dist-upgrade [12:12] indus [12:12] shervin you will have bad config files but will still have latest packages [12:13] shervin: whats exactly the question [12:13] koshari1: bad config files? I just want ubuntu to work [12:13] shervin, try "sudo dpkg -reconfigure -a" [12:13] I upgraded from hardy to jaunty and it failed miserably [12:13] cant get X up and running [12:13] shervin updating is always hit and miss [12:14] koshari1: Then what do you suggest for next time? [12:14] koshari1: always format? [12:14] shervin, try the command [12:14] Incarus: ok hold on [12:14] shervin, it will take some time [12:15] Incarus: conflicting actions -e (--control ) and -r (--remove) [12:15] shervin bach up home dir, install new version over the top, , inastall al lthe packages you want, then one by one copy the configs from your saved old home dir back [12:15] shervin: ye jaunty sucks [12:15] or maybe its me [12:15] if I say to my ubuntu shutdown -h 18:00, will it shutdown in 18 hours or at 6pm? [12:16] Can someone help me with my asus laptop and radeon on board? [12:16] Big trouble === Seti-high is now known as Demonicdata [12:16] shervin, sry, "sudo dükg-reconfigure -a" [12:16] *dpkg [12:16] Incarus: Do I need internet connection? [12:17] shervin, no [12:17] ok running now [12:17] shervin,it will reconfigure all your packages [12:17] shervin yes try incarus command to reconfig xserver [12:17] What program is responsible for window Boarders? I know I've been using Emerald for a while, but what's the name of the application for those not using Emerald? [12:17] Steal`n`Kill: what's the problem? [12:17] Pm [12:17] shervin, your "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" file would also help... [12:17] tARrAScH metacity is one [12:17] koshari1 - it's the default? [12:18] in gnome it is [12:18] if I say to my ubuntu shutdown -h 18:00, will it shutdown in 18 hours or at 6pm? [12:18] koshari1 - thanks :) [12:18] Incarus: thanks I will look at that log file after this is done [12:19] lexr: 6 pm [12:19] lexr: sorry 18 hours [12:19] ? [12:19] how do I stop processes such as beagle/updatedb from running? [12:19] which one is it indus :) [12:19] shervin, np, but i also want to have a look XD [12:19] I want to do some benchmarking [12:19] wait [12:19] yes but right now I am running reconfigure [12:19] Font for the console: Fixed or VGA? [12:20] lesshaste_, "sudo kill" [12:20] lesshaste_, or killall [12:20] Incarus, right but I don't know the full list [12:20] lesshaste run top and see [12:20] lesshaste_, ps -u USER ??? [12:20] lexr: shutdown -h