[00:00] <sebsebseb> famax8: you want wifi help well there you go,  those pages are usaully a start
[00:00] <famax8> ubottu: nope nothing on any forums did work sorry
[00:00] <i2go> Is just that i download lots of sh... my computer has caught several virus,
[00:00] <ryan_> when i upgrade to more RAM is it necessary to resize my swap partition?
[00:00] <SetiAmon> Whats the command to stop X again and go to terminal?i'm going to try reinstalling my graphics driers
[00:00] <mzz> Link23: excellent. Then "strace -f /usr/bin/firefox 2>/tmp/stracelog" should work. I might've missed the /usr/bin/ bit previously.
[00:00] <ibuclaw> gymophett, http://paste.ubuntu.com/176764/
[00:00] <i2go> i heard ubuntu is way better than xp
[00:00] <sebsebseb> !who | i2go
[00:00] <Alinn> Hi
[00:00] <sebsebseb> !tab | i2go
[00:00] <magician0617> ryan: No your swap is fine
[00:00] <famax8> sebsebseb: oh dear jah no thanks i did about 60h of online reading tried i think about 25 000 different things but nothing
[00:00] <mzz> ryan_: no, imho. Unless you suspend and run out of swap doing so.
[00:00] <five-eighths-rul> Anyone able to offer some advice on fixing hard drive errors? The Jaunty installer couldn't create the right partitions to do its job....
[00:00] <SetiAmon> Seriously,How do i drop X
[00:01] <mzz> ryan_: (how much ram and how much swap?)
[00:01] <gymophett> ... :?
[00:01] <Alinn> how I know which connection is now connected?
[00:01] <livingdaylight> mzz: output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/176765/
[00:01] <gymophett> Anyone here use LXDE?
[00:01] <raylu> Mack: in mutt: Received: from Mack-Server (ool-43574d03.dyn.optonline.net [67.87.77.3])
[00:01] <ryan_> right now i have 1GB ram and 2GB swap, im upgrading to 2GB ram
[00:01] <K-Rich> ugh
[00:01] <Mack> damn
[00:01] <raylu> Mack: checking gmail's webmail
[00:01] <mzz> livingdaylight: is sshd running on the other end?
[00:01] <Mack> raylu: see what gmail says
[00:01] <Mack> cuz for me it didn't
[00:01] <lukavia> hi, i use radeon xpress 200M on laptop, i can't get 3D to work, neither with Envy, neither with ati drivers from the site, HELP PLS
[00:01] <Mack> but idk about u
[00:01] <mobi-sheep> Alinn: Look in your Network Manger applet (on the tray).  It should display either wired connection, wireless connection, or none.
[00:01] <livingdaylight> mzz: on the Desktop? I don't know
[00:01] <Mack> i dont wanna send it to someone, and them find out
[00:01] <magician0617> ryan: you should be fine without resizeing your swap
[00:01] <mzz> livingdaylight: please check :)
[00:01] <sebsebseb> i2go: yes there aren't really any viruses for Linux at this time,  and to get malicious programs installed you would have to install yourself,  or  have your computer broken into and have them do it
[00:02] <raylu> Mack: wow, you're right. i can't show more headers
[00:02] <sebsebseb> i2go: ,but whatever OS your on you should have a firewall
[00:02] <livingdaylight> mzz: have i installed it on the Desktop?
[00:02] <sebsebseb> i2go: for example one enabled in your router
[00:02] <gymophett> lukavia: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[00:02] <raylu> Mack: in y! webmail, i could
[00:02] <Mack> raylu: u no if thunderbird shows full headers?
[00:02] <raylu> Mack: i assume it doesn't. haven't used it in a while
[00:02] <i2go> sebsebseb: does ubuntu has plugNplay?
[00:02] <lukavia> gymophett: 9.04
[00:02] <mzz> livingdaylight: apparently you have it installed on one of them (the one you can connect to).
[00:02] <Mack> raylu: luckily, my friend has gmail not yahoo :P
[00:02] <sebsebseb> i2go: and a good idea to have a good password that isn't say abc123
[00:02] <Alinn> mobi-sheep: I using text base for connect:-[
[00:02] <mzz> livingdaylight: there's a services management thing under system -> administration, iirc.
[00:02] <Mack> and he thinks i seriously got the pw for admin@gmail.com :D
[00:03] <sebsebseb> i2go: most hardware works rather well with Ubuntu, but not everything, because of stupid hardware manufactures and lack of Linux support
[00:03] <raylu> Mack: ah, next to reply in the top left
[00:03] <raylu> Mack: there's an arrow. click, show original
[00:03] <Mack> hmm
[00:03] <raylu> Mack: http://www.haltabuse.org/help/headers/gmail.shtml
[00:03] <Link23> mzz: I copied it as strace -f /usr/bin/firefox 2>/tmp/stracelog and firefox only appeared.
[00:03] <i2go> sebsebseb: i have a wireless router and card as well im kinda worry about that
[00:03] <raylu> Mack: but most people, myself included, wouldn't bother checking
[00:03] <gymophett> lukavia: the new version of Xorg in 9.04 doesn't support the ATI drivers yet, (but will soon), I have an ATI too, and I had to downgrade to 8.04.2 LTS, it's more stable anyway. I have everything working fine now.
[00:03] <livingdaylight> mzz: did i have to apt-get install ssh on both machines?
[00:03] <sebsebseb> i2go: is it atheros?
[00:03] <fil_> any one know how to disable the login theme so it can be only "terminal style login" or watever is called (:
[00:04] <famax8> so that's it... nobody... :(
[00:04] <mzz> i2go: if a driver is available (this is the case for a lot but not all hardware) it will often get autodetected at least as well as under windows, in my experience. It's just hardware for which a driver is not (yet) available that is problematic.
[00:04] <Mack> ok, now im just going by the chance hes one of those lazy ppl
[00:04] <sebsebseb> i2go: you can try  your hardware on the Live CD before installing from that CD as well
[00:04] <mzz> livingdaylight: I don't recall if that's there by default.
[00:04] <Mack> or thunderbird doesn't show it
[00:04] <lukavia> gymophett: how soon ?
[00:04] <mzz> Link23: I am confused. Do you mean it works now?
[00:04] <sebsebseb> i2go: if it works on the live session no problem, then you should be fine, if not,  you will have to probably set it up
[00:04] <gymophett> lukavia: that is the question. :(
[00:04] <Link23> mzz: no it came up for a second.
[00:04] <cesar_> hi everybody!
[00:04] <Mack> raylu: but luckily for me, most references are to google
[00:04] <phoenixz> I need to install Linux on a SUN T2000 server, can I use Ubuntu Server 8.04 64bits for that purpose?
[00:04] <Mack> as i have the mx records transfered to google if u do a reverse check :P
[00:05] <mzz> Link23: ok. Can you "pastebinit /tmp/stracelog" (again you may have to "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" first)?
[00:05] <phoenixz> Anybody here with experience with installing ubuntu in SPARC / SUN architectures?
[00:05] <gymophett> lukavia: thats just what I heard.. But I'm sure it will support it.
[00:05] <sebsebseb> phoenixz: Ubuntu on Sun hardware, wow  I expect hardly anyone does that, if anyone has even done it
[00:05] <livingdaylight> mzz: lol, now i get to feel stupid...
[00:05] <i2go> sebsebseb: i have netgear router and linksys card
[00:05] <sebsebseb> phoenixz: people would normalley do Solaris I expect
[00:05] <Guest97274> hey how i can add to my xchat the gnome server?
[00:05] <yeonhoo> hi
[00:05] <Mack> oh wait
[00:05] <raylu> Guest97274: iirc, ctrl+s
[00:05] <Mack> i transfered back to me
[00:05] <sebsebseb> i2go: I think it will work well,  as I said you try on Live CD, once you got one and booted the computer from it
[00:05] <yeonhoo> I can't boot
[00:05] <lukavia> gymophett: i heard that we will have to wait the new kernel 2.6.30
[00:05] <yeonhoo> there is a grub error
[00:05] <livingdaylight> mzz: i hadn't and needed to, install ssh on the Desktop. So, no wonder </gulp>
[00:05]  * livingdaylight blushes
[00:06] <yeonhoo> how can I change the grub boot file?
[00:06] <famax8> yeonhoo: dual boot?
[00:06] <mzz> livingdaylight: don't worry about it. I didn't recognize your original error message as being equivalent to "connection refused" (I'm a commandline kind of person myself, if the gui tools give different messages I'm easily confused)
[00:06] <i2go> sebsebseb: how do you guys download songs or movies? what do you guys use?
[00:06] <livingdaylight> mzz: AND now laptops finally sees Desktop. Sorry, for all the troubleshooting, but thank you
[00:06] <sebsebseb> yeonhoo: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.list
[00:06] <livingdaylight> mzz: ic
[00:06] <yeonhoo> famax8: i lost entire boot,, im on liveCD now
[00:07] <sebsebseb> !piracy | i2go
[00:07] <lukavia> gymophett: with this kernel ati cards will be supported, but i am not sure where i heard it from, maybe just rumours
[00:07] <raylu> mzz: what is the command to list fonts? it's similar to xfontsel, but not graphical
[00:07] <yeonhoo> hum
[00:07] <mzz> livingdaylight: I'm trying to break the habit of falling back to commandline tools when helping others but occasionally hit snags like this one
[00:07] <famax8> yeonhoo: is the cd starting at all?
[00:07] <mzz> raylu: fc-list?
[00:07] <livingdaylight> mzz: permission denied doesn't sound like connection refused. That is what sent us on the redherring
[00:07] <mzz> livingdaylight: exactly
[00:07] <phoenixz> sebsebseb: Linux can run on solaris and I know ubuntu should work but.. before I start I'd like to get a bit of info :) I already talked a bit here with ppll before who did that
[00:07] <yeonhoo> famax8:  yes im booting from cd
[00:08] <livingdaylight> mzz: thank you again... byes
[00:08] <phoenixz> Nobody here atm who knows about ubuntu on SPAR?
[00:08] <phoenixz> SPARC
[00:08] <raylu> mzz: not quite. it output them in.. X format. similar to -*-terminus-medium-*-*-*-14-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
[00:08] <raylu> -*-terminus-medium-*-*-*-14-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
[00:08] <sebsebseb> phoenixz: I didn't say it coudn't be done, I just said not many people will do it
[00:08] <raylu> er, whoops.
[00:08] <mzz> raylu: xlsfont (or xlsfonts, I forgot)?
[00:08] <famax8> yeonhoo: for start do a check cd for errors
[00:08] <lukavia> gymophett: thanks for the moral support :)
[00:08] <raylu> mzz: that's it, thanks :D
[00:08] <yeonhoo> famax8:  but i can't access my hd to modify the grup option..
[00:08] <yeonhoo> famax8:  there is no error with cd
[00:08] <mzz> raylu: but if you're going for a ttf font you probably want to use xft
[00:08] <famax8> no
[00:08] <yeonhoo> famax8:  I already installed with it
[00:08] <Demonicdata> reinstalling graphics card fixed it.although even though the resolution is max 1600x1200 I belive it looks way to close up
[00:09] <Demonicdata> like the programs have no space
[00:09] <raylu> mzz: xft = ?
[00:09] <Mack> raylu: u think it'll change anything if my MX records are to google?
[00:09] <mzz> raylu: see the examples in "man urxvt" (search for "xft" in there)
[00:09] <TunisUnit> Hey, I'm new to Ubuntu and I was wondering if anyone knew any slim dvd burners or readers that work with it?
[00:09] <famax8> yeonhoo: oh so is installed... so then live cd boot with command prompt on it and enter what sebsebseb told you
[00:09] <phoenixz> sebsebseb: true :) Its not really my choice but problem is that its my only option..
[00:09] <raylu> Mack: no. i doubt he'll check
[00:09] <vithos> i set up connection sharing via networkmanager; the clients have internet access but dns queries are refused. how do i configure networkmanager to enable dns on the dnsmasq instance it launches?
[00:09] <Mack> yeah
[00:09] <mzz> raylu: I'm pretty sure that if you want antialiasing (you usually do when using ttf fonts) you'll have to use xft, not classic x fonts
[00:09] <Mack> but i wannna make this real
[00:10] <raylu> Mack: that's... impossible. obviously.
[00:10] <Mack> ok, as real as possible
[00:10] <sebsebseb> TunisUnit: slim ones light waight?  Ubuntu comes with Brasero and  K3B is nice as well
[00:10] <sebsebseb> !dvd |  TunisUnit
[00:10] <Link23> mzz: I just get pastebin.com when I do that.  I can't even get to sites other than google in epiphany web browser.  If I go to another site It crashes.  Why don't I private message you it?
[00:10] <raylu> Mack: i don't think this is worth your time :P
[00:10] <sebsebseb> !k3b |  TunisUnit
[00:10] <sebsebseb> !brasero |  TunisUnit
[00:10] <Mack> nope, it isn't
[00:10] <TunisUnit> I mean a drive
[00:11] <mzz> Link23: that would take forever. pastebinit should have given you a link to pastebin. What was the link?
[00:11] <sebsebseb> TunisUnit: Ubuntu should just detect those normalley
[00:11] <Mack> raylu: which is EXACTLY y im doing it :P
[00:11] <TunisUnit> All the ones I found don't mention any Linux drivers
[00:11] <TunisUnit> And I want to make sure before i pull the trigger
[00:11] <Link23> mzz: pastebin.com was all it gave
[00:11] <sebsebseb> TunisUnit: most hardware with the exceptions of certain wireless for example, will just work with Ubuntu
[00:11] <famax8> oh and how to get directx work on wine?
[00:11] <famax8> anyone?
[00:11] <mzz> Link23: is /tmp/stracelog not empty (just open it in gedit or something) and did you run "pastebinit /tmp/stracelog"?
[00:11] <sebsebseb> famax8: that's a good question
[00:11] <gartral> !codecs
[00:11] <TunisUnit> @sebsebseb: OK thans
[00:12] <TunisUnit> Alright cool ubottu
[00:12] <TunisUnit> Thanks you guys
[00:12] <gartral> !codecs | ni_
[00:12] <sebsebseb> famax8: some Directx games will work in Wine no problem, others need configuring etc,   find out more about wine in #winehq
[00:12] <famax8> sebsebseb: is for vdj and pals...
[00:12] <Mack> lol raylu theres 2  references to me
[00:12] <Link23> mzz: I opened it and it's not empty and I ran it twice.
[00:12] <Mack> the rest are to google
[00:12] <ni_> !codecs
[00:12] <Mack> even mailing mx is google's
[00:13] <sebsebseb> famax8: what is?
[00:13] <mzz> can someone tell me if I'm going crazy and "pastebinit /path/to/textfile" doesn't actually work?
[00:13] <mzz> Link23: oh wait, I bet the file's too large. Try "tail -n1000 /tmp/stracelog|pastebinit"?
[00:13] <sebsebseb> mzz: heh heh yeah I tried that app before with not much luck,  I guess like you,  I just did something wrong
[00:13] <xaime> nups
[00:13] <famax8> sebsebseb: music programs but i am thinkin about switch already for either the 9.10 or studio versions will it help?
[00:14] <sebsebseb> famax8: the stuff in studio you can install into standard Ubuntu
[00:14] <Link23> mzz: www.pastebin.com/f102d050b
[00:14] <famax8> sebsebseb: really? i can transform my ubuntu 8.04 in the studio version??? how??
[00:14] <sebsebseb> famax8: and 9.10 is on alpha1, and so rather buggy,  and very much so in development
[00:14]  * mzz frows
[00:15] <mzz> Link23: "    * Unknown post id, it may have expired or been deleted". Did you mispaste the link?
[00:15] <NeRMe> hey, so I've got a server running 7.10 on it... and apt-get isn't working... looks like 7.10 isn't supported any more, but I need to find an updated sources.list so I can upgrade... any idea what I should do?
[00:15] <sebsebseb> famax8: you just install the stuff from studio into it that you want
[00:15] <famax8> sebsebseb: yeah my wifi works better but some things were dodgy so far
[00:15] <sebsebseb> famax8: in 8.04 you mean?
[00:15] <Link23> mzz: http://pastebin.com/f102d050b try that.  It may have been the www
[00:15] <famax8> sebsebseb: yeah but how?
[00:15] <sebsebseb> famax8: search  in syntic for stuff
[00:15] <famax8> sebsebseb: no in 9.10
[00:15] <mzz> Link23: works! Hmm, "killed by SIGILL" is bad.
[00:16] <mzz> Link23: what kind of cpu is this?
[00:16] <sebsebseb> famax8: your using 9.10?
[00:16] <mzz> Link23: (try "pastebinit /proc/cpuinfo")
[00:16] <famax8> on the other laptop yes
[00:16] <mobi-sheep> !7.10 | NeRMe
[00:16] <famax8> sebsebseb: yes on the other laptop
[00:16] <NeRMe> !eol
[00:16] <P4R41> what's a good application to test if my webcam is working?
[00:16] <sebsebseb> !9.10 |  famax8
[00:16] <mzz> !cheese| P4R41
[00:16] <NeRMe> !upgrade
[00:16] <Link23> mzz: http://pastebin.com/f742ef73e
[00:17] <mzz> drat
[00:17] <famax8> sebsebseb: why?
[00:17] <mzz> P4R41: I forgot the factoid, but try "cheese"
[00:17] <sebsebseb> famax8:  I get the impression your an Ubuntu newbie?
[00:17] <archman> Can I do my pc to suspend after x mins, like i do a shutdown with: shutdown -h x ?
[00:17] <sebsebseb> famax8: if so you really shoudn't be using 9.10 yet
[00:17] <famax8> not much i'd say
[00:17] <NeRMe> yeah, but with a broken sources.list, how do I upgrade?
[00:17] <sebsebseb> famax8: and this channel is not for 9.10 support, untill 9.10 final comes out
[00:17] <mzz> Link23: mmm, no sse support. You're positive this started happening immediately after a hard system crash, not after an upgrade?
[00:17] <P4R41> mzz: ill check it out, last time it didn't work
[00:18] <famax8> sebsebseb: on the OTHER laptop here now is a 8.04
[00:18] <mobi-sheep> NeRMe: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/
[00:18] <sebsebseb> famax8: lol hummm  this is a bit silly
[00:18] <sebsebseb> famax8: one computer you have 8.04 and the other you have 9.10 alpha1 bugy  bugs development version
[00:18] <mzz> famax8: especially pretty shortly after a release I wouldn't immediately try the next version. I'd expect 9.10 to stabilise as we get nearer to its release.
[00:18] <sebsebseb> famax8: what happended to 8.10 and 9.04?
[00:19] <famax8> sebsebseb: and all the issues are from 8.04 9.10 is just in test on the other pc since yesterday
[00:19] <mzz> famax8: I'd use either 8.04 (lts) or 9.04 (current release) right now
[00:19] <famax8> sebsebseb: well i was in prison...
[00:19] <sebsebseb> famax8: well upgrade to 8.10  that may work better?  oh and then maybe upgrade also to 9.04?
[00:19] <sebsebseb> famax8: to be honest 9.04 is a bit of a pathetic release,  but 8.10 :)
[00:19] <mzz> famax8: oh, definitely listen to sebsebseb if he recommends also trying 8.10
[00:19] <P4R41> so cheese doesn't detect the camera
[00:19] <P4R41> even tho its plugged in
[00:20] <famax8> sebsebseb: yeah you're not the first saying that but never did an ug to be honest i mean without uninstall and all
[00:20] <raylu> mzz: http://i41.tinypic.com/k3or5i.jpg
[00:20] <vithos___> i have method=shared for a NetworkManager connection, but all clients are getting Query Refused response for DNS lookups, anyone know what to do?
[00:20] <Link23> mzz: Yep, one minute I was changing my screensaver, just scrolling through some.  But when I previewed molecule it froze and I hit my restart button.  When I tried to change it again it went by default again to molecule then freeze.  Then I held up when I went into the screensavers.  Then firefox stopped working when I started it.
[00:20] <sebsebseb> famax8: ok well  upgrades go quite well
[00:20] <famax8> sebsebseb: and synaptic doesnt find studio
[00:20] <raylu> mzz: i _think_ non-bold fonts are inconsolata at the moment
[00:20] <gartral> !theora
[00:20] <gartral> !ogg
[00:20] <fujimoto_> #ubuntu-de
[00:21] <sebsebseb> !find ubuntu-studio
[00:21] <mzz> raylu: if you're editing .Xresources you probably have to run "xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources" after changing it. Check if your changes show upn in "xrdb -query"
[00:21] <sebsebseb> !info studio
[00:21] <sebsebseb> famax8: ok well you can get the packages for it anyway
[00:21] <famax8> mzz: two advices are better than one i learnes it with linux :)
[00:21] <famax8> sebsebseb: for the ug?
[00:22] <sebsebseb> !studio
[00:22] <famax8> sebsebseb: through synaptic i guess shall i search for 8.10
[00:22] <raylu> mzz: ahh, thanks :D
[00:22] <mzz> Link23: hmm, ok. Let's try to find out what function it crashes in. Does "firefox -g" give you a (gdb) prompt or an error message or something else?
[00:22] <sebsebseb> famax8: see the bot says the programs are in the repo
[00:22] <sebsebseb> famax8: and no you don't upgrade  via synaptic
[00:23] <mzz> Link23: (I figured this'd be some relatively simple profile corruption, but it looks like something weird is going on :( )
[00:23] <sebsebseb> !upgrade |  famax8
[00:23] <archman> sebsebseb, is there an autosuspend function, like there is a shutdown -h <minutes> for the shutdown?
[00:23] <sebsebseb> archman: try gshutdown
[00:23] <Link23> it says (gdb)
[00:23] <famax8> sebsebseb: i think i'll go for my olskool reinstall not really keen to use this thing
[00:24] <Link23> mzz: it says (gdb)
[00:24] <P4R41> I think i need some help setting up my webcam, ugh
[00:24] <archman> sebsebseb tnx! :)
[00:24] <sebsebseb> famax8: you don't need to re install now
[00:24] <mzz> Link23: excellent. Say "c" (without the quotes, and hit enter). It should crash (again). Then say "bt" and pastebin the output.
[00:24] <ni_> help needed: what packages provide ogv codecs?
[00:24] <sebsebseb> famax8: just upgrade, and maybe  re install later on say  10.04  when I am also assuming Ext4 is more stable :)
[00:24] <gartral> I have two problems... one... I want to convert a few wavs to speex format.. and the other, more serious one is X will freeze, ussually when im working in firefox/galeon with a lot of photos on a page..
[00:24] <sebsebseb> famax8: instead of converting Ext3 to Ext4,  I am talking just under a year from now here
[00:24] <famax8> sebsebseb: now now no.. but i need to find the answer for my wifi if i wanna dl the cd
[00:24] <sebsebseb> famax8: your on 8.04 the current long term support relase, but  10.04 is the next one
[00:25] <sebsebseb> famax8: if you use non LTS releases you would have to upgrade through each release.   you can upgrade a LTS though directly to another one
[00:25] <Link23> mzz: It says that the program is not being run and then no stack.
[00:25] <mzz> Link23: did "c" work?
[00:25] <sebsebseb> famax8: wifi does not work in 8.04?
[00:25] <famax8> sebsebseb: so 1st to lts and then 8.10
[00:26] <sebsebseb> !lts
[00:26] <mzz> Link23: (you'd get that message if you tried "bt" before "c". If you did "c" I'm confused so please pastebin the output)
[00:26] <sebsebseb> famax8: no 8.04 is the LTS
[00:26] <famax8> sebsebseb: very slow and cut now and then sometimes doesnt find the network
[00:26] <sebsebseb> famax8: maybe 9.04 is the one you need,  I read it has better atheros wireless support
[00:26] <archman> sebsebseb, it's not for suspending...
[00:26] <sebsebseb> famax8: however 8.10 may also be good enough
[00:26] <Link23> mzz: I typed c first and that's what I got.
[00:26] <sebsebseb> archman: ok don't know then
[00:26] <dansku2> is there how to change the folder the "make install" installs the file, i want to install it on my home folder
[00:27] <mzz> Link23: then can you pastebin the gdb output you got so far? I seem to be missing something again.
[00:27] <archman> sebsebseb, cool ;)
[00:27] <NimbleRabit> I'm trying to watch video's, and they keep freezing after about 10-15 minutes no matter which player I try.  Any ideas what the problem could be?
[00:27] <mzz> dansku2: that depends heavily on the package, but you may have some luck with passing --prefix=$HOME (or $HOME/somedir) to configure
[00:27] <sebsebseb> famax8: and you can't directly upgrade 8.04 to 9.04 you have to go through 8.10
[00:27] <Dr_Willis> dansku2:  you give the proper options to ./configure normally.. (and no i dont rember them)
[00:27] <famax8> sebsebseb: i think is not an atheros chipset
[00:27] <mzz> dansku2: definitely do not run "make install" as root if you're doing this.
[00:27] <unxuxu> Does anybody knows how to disable the autocomplete for URLs on Epiphany browser?
[00:28] <famax8> sebsebseb: no peak protocole - is a nvidia b43 sth
[00:28] <Demonicdata> who was it that was talking about gnome and how they had it configured earlier???
[00:28] <dansku2> mzz i cant, that why i want to install on other folder =)
[00:28] <Demonicdata> the one who showed me a screen capture of their setup
[00:28] <raylu> mzz: ahhh... xrdb -merge... merges. it doesn't remove things if i've removed them from .Xresources. heh
[00:28] <sebsebseb> famax8: luckily I am hardwired so don't have to deal with stupid wireless issues anymore,  yeah that was so 2004 for me
[00:29] <Link23> mzz: http://pastebin.com/f14421f8a
[00:29] <mzz> raylu: oh, forgot to warn you about that one. I usually work around that by setting them to the default explicitly, then merging, then removing the line.
[00:29] <sebsebseb> famax8: with Fedora Core 2 and 4
[00:29] <raylu> mzz: oh. i just did xrdb -remove
[00:29] <mzz> Link23: try "r" instead of "c"
[00:29] <sebsebseb> thiebaude: you know wireless issues?
[00:29] <chiques> sebsebseb, what problems are you having?
[00:30] <famax8> sebsebseb: i dont get it... 2004    but know that i cant be wired i cant pull a cable that long in the middle of the house i live with a blond
[00:30] <Alinn> How i know which connection is now connected (text base connections)?
[00:30] <gartral> I have two problems... one... I want to convert a few wavs to speex format.. and the other, more serious one is X will freeze, ussually when im working in firefox/galeon with a lot of photos on a page..
[00:30] <thiebaude> sebsebseb: i sure dont, i use a wired broadband connection
[00:30] <mzz> raylu: that works, but isn't what you want if you have more than just ~/.Xdefaults as source of resources. Some stuff like gnome-settings-daemon likes to add resources too, and I'm not sure how to get them to re-add after xrdb -remove.
[00:30] <sebsebseb> chiques: not me   famax8
[00:30] <sebsebseb> thiebaude: same here :)
[00:30] <chiques> famax8, What problem are you having?
[00:30] <ruipedroca> hi
[00:30] <famax8> sebsebseb: you think fedora is better? i tried core 2 nothing much better wifi wise
[00:30] <mzz> Alinn: what kind of "connection"? Perhaps you're looking for ifconfig?
[00:30] <P4R41> can someone help me set up my webcam with gc-usb?
[00:30] <raylu> mzz: oh. poop.
[00:30] <sebsebseb> famax8: 2004 is when I had a stupid wireless device thingey that woudn't work in  Fedora Core 2 and 4
[00:31] <ruipedroca> can anybody help me make my Xsane (Lenny) find my printer
[00:31] <mzz> raylu: they're probably not all that important though.
[00:31] <sebsebseb> famax8: if any other distro is better for your wireless well  possibily Mandriva
[00:31] <mzz> raylu: just log out and back in if odd stuff happens.
[00:31] <Link23> mzz: so far it's working.  It asks if I want to continue or quit and I don't want to do anything wrong.
[00:31] <mzz> Link23: I don't follow.
[00:31] <famax8> sebsebseb: ah so welcome to the club lol
[00:31] <sebsebseb> famax8: not quite
[00:31] <Yankefish> ok guys need a lil help, i installed ubuntu, then booted vista and used easybcd to edit boot entry, now ubuntu wont boot
[00:31] <mzz> Link23: (keep pastebinning, I'm much better at following actual gdb sessions :)
[00:31] <Cylence> question about apt-get. I've run the 'update' command. 'sudo apt-get install tcl8.5' still results in 'E: Couldn't find package tcl8.5'
[00:32] <sebsebseb> famax8: I was hardwired in 2005 :)   so sweet being able to use  second release of Ubuntu on a working Internet connection
[00:32] <famax8> chiques: my wifi states 1mbs only and cut sometimes also it doesnt see network sometimes
[00:32] <sebsebseb> famax8: ,but it really did suck having to use XP for net when I had Fedora Core installed.  anyway off topic,  and these other people can probably help you
[00:32] <Link23> mzz: http://pastebin.com/f450e0b36
[00:32] <famax8> sebsebseb: i mean fedora crappy issues club...
[00:32] <Rafael_> can somebody provide help with backups or sync of data files with an NAS?
[00:32] <chiques> famax8, Do you have other computers that can connect at faster speeds?
[00:32] <mzz> famax8: the only wireless I have is in a *very* ancient laptop not running ubuntu (I don't fully trust its hardware either)
[00:32] <unxuxu> How can I disable autocompletion for URLs on Epiphany browser? its anoying me...
[00:32] <P4R41> Cylence: run apt-cache search tcl and see if it comes up on a different name
[00:33] <sebsebseb> famax8: no wireless  problems club, because of stupid hardware manufactures that do not support Linux properly or at all
[00:33] <sebsebseb> famax8: or the  to newbie to configure a wireless at the time  or  get it working with ndiswrapper club
[00:33] <mzz> Link23: ok, so you are crashing inside xulrunner. Did you reinstall that package too when reinstalling earlier?
[00:33] <sebsebseb> famax8: that was me in 2004 with Fedora Core 2 and 4
[00:33] <Link23> mzz: I don't believe so.
[00:34] <famax8> sebsebseb: therefore that's why we got a club lol  * mzz: yeah but on the old one is fine
[00:34] <mzz> Link23: can you give that a shot, just in case?
[00:34] <Cylence> P4R41: it did find a few things, but not the actual tcl
[00:34] <Yankefish> can anybody help me restore ubuntu after editing with easybcd
[00:34] <famax8> sebsebseb: went through that... the ndiswrapper club lol
[00:34] <Cylence> P4R41:  few things about ruby, and one about postgresql
[00:34] <Viking667> I'm trying to connect to a machine via ftp using nautilus, I can't figure out how I'm supposed to set that up. Properties of the "FTP server on machine-name" don't indicate anywhere I can enter a username and password.
[00:34] <sebsebseb> famax8: ndiswarpper should be a last resort, native first :)
[00:34] <mzz> yeah, I'm glad this card I have has a realtek chipset I don't need to run ndiswrapper for
[00:35] <Dr_Willis> Yankefish:  tell the channel some more info.. like.. #1 'how' did you install , (wubi or a normal install) and #2 - why did you mess with easybcd?
[00:35] <Viking667> I've even tried opening it in gvim, not a single thing was present.
[00:35] <Cylence> P4R41: I got a huge anount of errors about unreachable servers upon attempting to update
[00:35] <famax8> chiques: yes was
[00:35] <mzz> still, I'm not sure if the driver's stable (something's definitely causing oopses, I'm just not 100% sure what it is)
[00:35] <P4R41> Cylence: you need to check your repositories
[00:35] <famax8> sebsebseb: for now i do with an underground way and screw ndiswrapper
[00:35] <SetiAmon> how can i tell if i am running compiz fusion?it is required for animated wallpapper right?
[00:35] <ejv> thecougar: it's definitely not for everyone, youger people tend to adjust better than older; it also has a lot to do with drive and patience ;)
[00:35] <Cylence> P4R41: /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[00:36] <Cylence> P4R41: I'm honestly not sure what I'm looking for, heh. would you mind having a look at it?
[00:36] <gartral> how do i check in terminal if a particular package is installed?
[00:36] <P4R41> Cylence: you're doing this all command line with no gui?
[00:36] <sebsebseb> famax8: underground way?
[00:36] <chiques> famax8, Have you tried removing rebooting the reinstalling fwcutter?
[00:36] <Cylence> P4R41: right
[00:36] <Yankefish> i installed with wubi 9.04, then i booted vista and used easybc to edit bootloader name, there was a drop box with c,e,f, and boot under it i selected boot now ubuntu dont load anymore goes to a dos like screen and says wubi
[00:36] <P4R41> Cylence: ok, let me see if i can help you
[00:36] <Cylence> P4R41: sincere thanks
[00:36] <famax8> chiques: fwcutter is gone if i remember
[00:36] <sebsebseb> Yankefish: Wubi NO!
[00:36] <Cylence> P4R41: let me give you an output of the sources.list file. one moment
[00:36] <radiounix> Hello. Just installed an AMD HD4850 with the latest ATI driver, and am getting performance that on low settings is about as bad as my Geforce 6150 integrated. GLXgears is low at just 7,500. I'm not sure where to beging- you'll need to keep in mind I'm running Ubuntu Server, so no Restricted Drive Manager
[00:36] <sebsebseb> Yankefish: Wubi not recommend by many people that know Ubuntu resonably well
[00:37] <P4R41> Cylence: i get help here too, just paying it forward
[00:37] <Viking667> huh? THat's _low_??
[00:37] <LadyNikon> sebsebseb: you need to create a trigger
[00:37] <chiques> What does # lshw -C network print out?
[00:37] <radiounix> Performance was equally awful when using Ubuntu's stock FGLRX package
[00:37] <sebsebseb> LadyNikon: ha ha
[00:37] <LadyNikon> sebsebseb: :p
[00:37] <chiques> famax8, What does # lshw -C network print out?
[00:37] <famax8> sebsebseb: yeah i use some pkg from a univ and desactivated the cutter, installed thw driver from manufacturer and is now almost ok
[00:37] <Cylence> P4R41: well, good on ya then ;) https://gist.github.com/98e4525889ce17158b3d
[00:37] <Yankefish> im a noobie with ubuntu
[00:37] <proq> does anyone know how to start the emerald themes from a nonstandard window manager (ratpoison)?  the usual emerald --replace doesn't work
[00:37] <sebsebseb> LadyNikon: true though some of the stuff I have put here,  I am not sure how many times I have said it
[00:38] <mzz> Yankefish: they have a point in that wubi is actually more complicated than a regular setup with the current state of partition resize tools.
[00:38] <Ursinha> panaggio, :)
[00:38] <radiounix> @HD4850 question- might there be an Xorg.conf setting I need to tweak?
[00:38] <SetiAmon> hmm
[00:38] <unxuxu> How can I disable autocompletion for URLs on Epiphany browser? its anoying me...
[00:38] <mzz> Yankefish: also, you need to find someone who actually understands wubi to repair the kind of problem you're facing
[00:38] <panaggio> say Ursinha
[00:38] <Cylence> P4R41: oh, I added that 'pool' on the first line, btw. in a desperate attempt
[00:38] <famax8> chiques: a bunch of things alrite
[00:39] <Yankefish> the install went fine just when i used easybcd thats when hell broke loose
[00:39] <mzz> proq: kill ratpoison by hand
[00:39] <Ursinha> guess you're not the panaggio I was thinking, sorry
[00:39] <thecougar> ejv: agreed. i have no drive for command line and thats my issue. i've always seen command line as a backwards feature
[00:39] <sebsebseb> Yankefish: I don't  fix weird wubi issues, because  well  weird wubi issues really are weird, and the standard stuff that applys to normal partitions, do not apply, for example being able to access the partition on a Live CD
[00:39] <mzz> proq: ratpoison is annoying and doesn't take the wm selection, it can't be --replaced properly (it's not emeralds fault, even though I really want to blame emerald instead of ratpoison :)
[00:39] <panaggio> Ursinha: yes, I'm the panaggio you're thinking =)
[00:39] <Ursinha> :)
[00:39] <Yankefish> ohh ok so how can i fix anybody
[00:40] <sebsebseb> Yankefish: so  in reply to your PM,  I am not going to help you with  fixing Wubi issues,  I would just advice into not using Wubi :)  and doing partitions for real
[00:40] <jake> anybody know a prog to log the stuff that top displays?
[00:40] <mzz> sebsebseb: no? Surely the livecd can mount the ntfs partition and then loopback mount the wubi partition? Although that doesn't help with the bootloader, since I have no clue how that setup boots in any detail...
[00:40] <chiques> famax8, Post it on paste.ubuntu.com
[00:40] <sebsebseb> mzz: it hacks the Windows bootloader so it can boot up Grub
[00:41] <ejv> thecougar: yea I think it's just perception of productivity, the command line is linux's greatest asset; every operating system has a learning curve, again not for everybody. I am sorry you couldn't get xorg to display the resolutions you need.
[00:41] <mzz> sebsebseb: ahh, windows bootloader chainloading grub instead of vice versa? cute.
[00:41] <sebsebseb> mzz: basicalley yeah
[00:41] <Yankefish> nope im asking for wubi help
[00:41] <mzz> sebsebseb: wonder where they stash grub without putting it in a partition though. Must be some awkward windows-bootloader-specific hack?
[00:42] <mzz> s/in a partition/in a bootsector/
[00:42] <radiounix> Oh, oh, that's you. Sorry
[00:42] <sebsebseb> mzz: well it goes in it's place in the MBR
[00:42] <thiebaude> Yankefish: i use to use wubi, whats wrong?
[00:42] <Yankefish> np
[00:42] <famax8> chiques: done
[00:42] <yugo_> anybody good with php ? ffmpeg my script not converting and grabing image yet its connected to mysql and inserts data ! someone help mee im dying with this
[00:42] <chiques> famax8, URL?
[00:42] <sebsebseb> Yankefish: there is a way to access the wubi  file,  and it's files, but I don't have that link on me hummm
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[00:42] <thiebaude> yo
[00:42] <maisch> yo
[00:42] <sebsebseb> Yankefish: if you messed up  the bootloaders  so you can't boot up  Ubuntu/Wubi
[00:43] <Yankefish> yeah thats what happened
[00:43] <mugen> can someone help me intsall my T43 drivers? I'd appreciate any help!
[00:43] <radiounix> Is anyone open to troubleshooting poor 3D acceleration with me? I know, I know, cursed binary blob...
[00:43] <sebsebseb> Yankefish: maybe I am going to help after all a bit, but only if can find that link
[00:43] <mzz> Yankefish: if you can boot off a regular livecd we can probably get at the wubi partition, but you'll have to find someone actually familiar with wubi to repair the bootloader.
[00:43] <sebsebseb> Yankefish: you got data on there, that you want to get hold of?
[00:43] <Germ|Buntu> Need Help: Toshiba A300 laptop will not connect to a wired network, Wireless works though. DM any ideas
[00:43] <Yankefish> ohh ok thx
[00:43] <famax8> chiques; sorry newbie in irc chat : here http://paste.ubuntu.com/176789/
[00:43] <maisch> need help with ubuntu 9.04 and aplle kbd .....
[00:43] <mzz> Yankefish: so if you want data off we can try to help, but if you want it to boot again we probably can't
[00:43] <Yankefish> nah no data just did a fresh install
[00:44] <Yankefish> i just want to install it again no data
[00:44] <sebsebseb> mzz: there is a way to get hold of the data
[00:44] <xxx_x> hi, im new to C++ and im using anjuta, im writing a simple program, but i dont know how to execute it. i already compile it, no errors but i dont know waht next
[00:44] <Fohn> Hello, I need some assistance on a pretty strange problem. Botting into ubuntu, I discovered that all my firefox bookmarks were gone and a restore did nothing to fix that. Buttons on the internet don't work, my google toolbar doesn't work, etc. So I went to check out what could be wrong. Went to my home folder, wh‎ich said I have ZERO bytes free. I had plenty of free space before this paticular boot. Even deleting files from my home fol
[00:44] <Fohn> der did nothing.
[00:44] <sebsebseb> Yankefish: well in that case remove wubi :)
[00:44] <sebsebseb> Yankefish: and do partitions for real :)
[00:44] <mzz> sebsebseb: yeah, that's really the easy part. The tricky part is getting it to run a kernel and a (probably humongous) initramfs
[00:44] <Yankefish> how do i just boot the ubuntu cd and reinstall
[00:44] <Fohn> I would make a post on the forums but the login button is broken.
[00:44] <raylu> mzz: thanks for the help with urxvt. i'll be stick with gnome-terminal, though, because redrawing is a bit slow in rxvt
[00:44] <raylu> mzz: it doesn't deal with with being resized either
[00:44] <sebsebseb> mzz: someone did what I was just talking about and gave a link
[00:45] <mzz> raylu: it doesn't? how so?
[00:45] <thiebaude> Yankefish: dual boot
[00:45] <sebsebseb> mzz: he was here in the channel  a week or two ago or something
[00:45] <Link23> mzz: it works!  Thanks a million.  Where can I learn all these things?
[00:45] <Fohn> Yankefish: When your computer is booting go into BIOS and choose to boot from the disc rather than your HD.
[00:45] <mzz> Link23: wait, what? The xulrunner reinstall fixed it?
[00:45] <sebsebseb> Yankefish: remove Wubi :)
[00:45] <mzz> Link23: might want to fsck your / partition if you haven't already then. Creepy.
[00:45] <Yankefish> ok Fohn then what can i just reinstall on same partations
[00:45] <Link23> Yea, It's working like a charm.
[00:45] <sebsebseb> Yankefish: you can do a proper dual boot set up, it's not that difficult
[00:46] <thiebaude> yep its real easy
[00:46] <radiounix> Lazy me. I think I'll pour over the Arch and Gentoo wikis for tips on 3D accell issues before pestering you folks. I'm sure that'll please you greatly
[00:46] <raylu> mzz: http://i43.tinypic.com/idex7a.jpg
[00:46] <sebsebseb> Yankefish: maybe even get rid of Windows, or run in a virtual machine, depending on what you would be using Windows for or woudn't be using it for
[00:46] <thiebaude> sebsebseb: i dual boot xp and 9.10
[00:46] <raylu> mzz: right center, bottom left
[00:46] <famax8> chiques: got it?
[00:46] <Germ|Buntu> (Anyone?) Need Help: Toshiba A300 laptop will not connect to a wired network, Wireless works though. DM any ideas
[00:46] <mzz> Link23: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash helps a bit with this kind of thing, although come to think of it I don't think I used any of that. For the rest there's really no single place where I picked up all the odds and ends used when debugging
[00:46] <Fohn> Yankefish: If you're talking about wiping over your current install, yes you could do so from the partition manager which is a step during the install process.
[00:47] <Fohn> I would make a post on the forums but the login button is broken.
[00:47] <Yankefish> ok fohn that what i'll do
[00:47] <sebsebseb> Yankefish: if you can access Windows,  or sort it out so you can, you can remove wubi like that
[00:47] <Fohn> Hello, I need some assistance on a pretty strange problem. Botting into ubuntu, I discovered that all my firefox bookmarks were gone and a restore did nothing to fix that. Buttons on the internet don't work, my google toolbar doesn't work, etc. So I went to check out what could be wrong. Went to my home folder, wh‎ich said I have ZERO bytes free. I had plenty of free space before this paticular boot. Even deleting files from my home fol
[00:47] <Fohn> der did nothing.
[00:47] <mzz> raylu: huh. I don't think I've seen that, but I don't use fake transparency.
[00:47] <Link23> mzz: Ok, I'm new so what do I have to do with the / partition?
[00:47] <mugen> can someone help me intsall my T43 drivers? I'd appreciate any help!
[00:47] <sebsebseb> Yankefish: DON'T use Wubi, use real partitions instead :)
[00:47] <mzz> can someone remind me how to force a fsck of / on reboot in ubuntu? :)
[00:47] <raylu> mzz: ah, it could be an issue with that
[00:47] <maisch> has any one a mac pro with ubuntu on it for me work perfect perfect except the f... kbd need help !
[00:47] <thiebaude> Yankefish: i second that
[00:47] <mib_xhcj46> how do i join irc.spotchat.org #linuxmint
[00:48] <Yankefish> thx guys l8r
[00:48] <Dr_Willis>  mib_xhcj46  /server servername
[00:48] <famax8> is it wubi so popular now? i find it dodgy...
[00:48] <Dr_Willis> mib_xhcj46:  then join the channel
[00:48] <mib_xhcj46> i selected the server option and typed that then it says spotchat (dead)
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> famax8: i think its horrific
[00:48] <thiebaude> famax8: i didn't like it
[00:48] <raylu> mzz: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-force-fsck-on-the-next-reboot-or-boot-sequence/
[00:48] <sebsebseb> famax8: Wubi can be dodgy yeah, but yet loads of the newbies do it for their first installs
[00:49] <mzz> Link23: what raylu just said. Fohn: you may want to give that a shot too
[00:49] <mib_xhcj46> well i did that and nothing happens when i do /join #linuxmint
[00:49] <Alinn1> mzz: pppo."ifconfig" doesn't give me name of this connection.:-[
[00:49] <famax8> ah alrite the easy way... i started with a puppy and a slax... a bit masochiste i think...
[00:49] <mzz> Alinn1: what kind of name are you looking for?
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> famax8: started with mandrake
[00:49] <raylu> Fohn: df -hx tmpfs
[00:49] <Alinn1> mzz: ?
[00:49] <mzz> famax8: wubi sounds easy, but the resulting boot loader setup is nonstandard enough that someone not familiar with wubi can't help you repair it if it breaks.
[00:50] <Fohn> will give it a look mzz, thanks.
[00:50] <famax8> come on even for a newbie it would tach nothing...
[00:50] <mzz> famax8: with partition resize utils available on the install cd and working pretty well wubi is arguably unnecessary.
[00:50] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: I started with Fedora Core 2 :)
[00:50] <mzz> Alinn1: you're looking for a "name" for the connection. What kind of name are you looking for? eth0? ip address assigned to it? something else?
[00:50] <famax8> mzz: unnecessary is said!!!
[00:50] <Dr_Willis> id rather see people test out Ubuntu in virtualbox..
[00:50] <sebsebseb> Dr_Willis: same here
[00:51] <raylu> i'd rather not see windows when i boot up every machine i buy.
[00:51] <sebsebseb> Dr_Willis: altough  when Wubi works properly,  it gives people a feel for the system, and if there hardware will just work, but sure Live CD's do that anyway
[00:51] <mib_xhcj46> why is that?
[00:51] <famax8> ActionParnsip: mandrake was grand i tried as a first install to make my classes
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> raylu: self build then ;)
[00:51] <raylu> ActionParsnip: laptop
[00:51] <cached> how would i use something like %H in a terminal? I want to do something like mv x x_%h where %H is the hour
[00:51] <Alinn1> mzz: yes eth0.
[00:51] <mzz> Alinn1: "ifconfig" really should have that.
[00:51] <raylu> mib_xhcj46: look for the tabs near the top
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> raylu: ah
[00:52] <Link23> mzz: So I can learn a lot about the command prompt and debugging through the ubuntu wiki?  Ok, the fsck is done and all that's left is to reboot.  Thanks!
[00:52] <raylu> cached: mv x x_`date %H`
[00:52] <mzz> Alinn1: (see also "ifconfig -a" to include interfaces that are down)
[00:52] <thiebaude> sebsebseb: doesn't ubuntu run slower on a wubi install?
[00:52] <mib_xhcj46> i have a tab that says spotchat (dead) and in it, it wont do anythign when i /join chan
[00:52] <sebsebseb> thiebaude: it can do yeah, if Windows is all fragmented
[00:52] <maisch>  has any one a mac pro with ubuntu on it for me work perfect perfect except the f... kbd need help !
[00:52] <cxvxb> Attorney General Andrew Cuomo's office said the group ran a 24-hour prostitution ring called Room Service Entertainment from Craigslist's erotic services section from June 2007 to December 2008.
[00:52] <raylu> cached: mv x x_`date +%H`
[00:52] <mzz> Link23: perhaps, I'm not that familiar with that wiki. I really picked up odds and ends all over the place though.
[00:52] <Dr_Willis> cached:  or a bit more readable mv x x_$(date %H)
[00:52] <jeancalvin> Using Evince, how can I set an EXACT zoom percentage?
[00:52] <eseven73> !ot | cxvxb
[00:52] <cxvxb> lol @ feds finally noticing the prostitution on craigslist
[00:52] <zamba> i'm trying to set up a firefox profile that is to be copied to a set of machines.. this worked just beautiful on the firefox version running on ubuntu intrepid, but after upgrading to jaunty (and firefox 3.0.9) this has stopped working.. firefox starts, but freezes after a couple of seconds.. in the process list it's listed as defunc..
[00:53] <mib_xhcj46> !wubi
[00:53] <mzz> zamba: is nfs involved?
[00:53] <mib_xhcj46> interesting
[00:53] <Link23> mzz: Ok I'll search for some ones then.  See you when I get back.
[00:53] <sebsebseb> mib_xhcj46: safe way maybe not quite, since some computers can mess up when Wubi is done
[00:53] <famax8> chiques???
[00:53] <zamba> mzz: correct
[00:53] <Alinn1> mzz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/176794/
[00:53] <Name141> Would extracting the ISO directly to a USB flash drive work if I put USB as the first boot device?
[00:54] <Gourlis> Hi everyone, I'm using Ubuntu 8.04 LTS - Anyone knows which is the best website to find and install themes for my version of Ubuntu ?
[00:54] <sebsebseb> !usb | Name141
[00:54] <maisch> ouin !
[00:54] <mib_xhcj46> when it is done? like virtual system turned off, settings are not left right? i dont even know if its really a virtual system
[00:54] <sebsebseb> !themes | Gourlis
[00:54] <Dr_Willis> Gourlis:  no.. you could use 'unetbootin' to make a bootable flash drive
[00:54] <mzz> zamba: firefox (or really sqlite) can get really unhappy if the profile directory is on nfs (related to (stale or malfunctioning) filesystem locks)
[00:54] <Gourlis> sebsebseb, hi and thanks dude :)
[00:54] <sebsebseb> Gourlis: np
[00:54] <Name141> sebsebseb: I don't want to install it from the USB drive.  I want to keep it live, but make it run faster than the DVD
[00:54] <raylu> Name141: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[00:54] <zamba> mzz: well.. it works if i just wipe the existing .mozilla folder
[00:54] <Dr_Willis> or did i get nicks wrong.. :) heh
[00:54] <sebsebseb> Name141: oh right
[00:54] <mzz> zamba: symptoms usually include bogus "profile in use" messages and the address bar and bookmarks/history malfunctioning completely.
[00:55] <Dr_Willis> yea i did. :) chat scrolled as i was reading.
[00:55] <Gourlis> sebsebseb, to do not mess up again with anything (am talking about me) gnome themes are for my edition ?
[00:55] <zamba> mzz: firefox just don't work here..
[00:55] <sebsebseb> Gourlis: that's for all of them
[00:55] <zamba> mzz: it launches and loads the home page, but then freezes entirely
[00:55] <Name141> sebsebseb: So I could just simply extract it to the flash drive and put USB as the first boot?
[00:55] <Gourlis> sebsebseb, oh nice!
[00:55] <zamba> mzz: if i remove the .mozilla folder and start firefox, it works just fine
[00:55] <sebsebseb> Name141: not sure, since not done that myself
[00:55] <raylu> Name141: ... no.
[00:55] <Name141> Hm.
[00:55] <mzz> zamba: hmm. Wild guess: is this a terminal server-ish setup with tons of firefox instances running on one system?
[00:55] <zamba> mzz: nope
[00:55] <zamba> mzz: one firefox for each computer
[00:55] <mib_xhcj46> anyone know a chan on freenode something like megworld
[00:55] <sebsebseb> zamba: yes since then you got a new Firefox profile
[00:55] <raylu> Name141: see the link i gave you. give it your iso file and your usb drive and you'll be good to go
[00:56] <mzz> zamba: err, wait, that wouldn't explain it working without .mozilla. Can you narrow it down to a particular file you're copying?
[00:56] <th0r> I am planning the installation of a vm to run xp within linux, and would appreciate any insight anyone can share regarding either QEMU or XEN
[00:56] <Name141> raylu: OK.  I gotta rearrange my external hard drives before I can plug the flash drive up anyway.
[00:56] <Dr_Willis> th0r:  you may want to use virtualbox instead.
[00:56] <Name141> raylu: all my USB is plugged almost
[00:56] <mzz> th0r: I think I'd prefer virtualbox over qemu. I don't know about xen.
[00:57] <thiebaude> !xen
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> theres vmware too
[00:57] <Dr_Willis> th0r:  xen is a radically different thing then virtualbox or qemu
[00:57] <famax8> chiques freaked out on my problem... i can definitely offer champagne to anyone who finds solution== not kidding
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> !vmware
[00:57] <th0r> Dr_Willis: As I understand it you have to renew the licensing for virtualbox every year.
[00:57] <Dr_Willis> th0r:  Not that ive ever noticed...
[00:57] <mzz> th0r: not if you use the ose edition
[00:57] <Dr_Willis> th0r:  it has a free version..
[00:57] <zamba> i'll try rephrasing with some more detail.. i'm running a set of computers that all log on to the different systems using the same user.. to prevent the different users messing with each other's setting, i use unionfs to combine the read-only home directory with a rw directory somewhere in /tmp, so that the user will still be able to write to their home directory (thus "fooling" programs that need to be able to write to a home folder)..
[00:57] <mib_xhcj46> i never got qemu to work at all and virtualbox was easy to use an dim pretty sure its free
[00:57] <mzz> th0r: (err, that was a bit redundant, open source edition edition... :)
[00:57] <th0r> Dr_Willis: I am gathering that....I have started reading up on both and there are references to qemu within xen?
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> !info virtualbox-ose
[00:58] <THCLOKI> Hi
[00:58] <zamba> so the home directory will only be a read-only starting point for the session
[00:58] <Name141> It appears as if I have deleted the ISO.  I suppose I could simply use 8.10's CD extract it and make an ISO ?
[00:58] <mzz> th0r: yes, some of the qemu vm code is based on xen.
[00:58] <mzz> th0r: err, qemu!
[00:58] <zamba> this worked just fine in intrepid, but stopped working after upgrading to jaunty
[00:58] <famax8> sebsebseb: the studio room is dead  :/
[00:58] <THCLOKI> !de
[00:58] <zamba> so i'm guessing something has changed in firefox between those two versions
[00:58] <th0r> Dr_Willis: are you running virtual box?
[00:59] <Dr_Willis> th0r:  i use virtualbox all the time.
[00:59] <mzz> th0r: you're right about them offering a version under a weirder license, but it's likely the open one does everything you need. There's a comparison on their site somewhere.
[00:59] <sebsebseb> famax8:  look under multimedia in synaptic and you will find most studio apps there
[00:59] <Dr_Willis> th0r:  xen is a different sort of thing. and i dont think you can run xp in xen (at last you couldent last i looked)
[00:59] <mzz> th0r: I have a windows 2000 and ubuntu install running under virtualbox, they both work pretty well.
[00:59] <Gourlis> sebsebseb, i can install compiz themes on my ubuntu 8.04 LTS ?
[00:59] <th0r> mzz: I am really only interested in running xp under linux...although I don't know why I need it <smile>
[01:00] <famax8> sebsebseb: thanks i'll check if there is what i need
[01:00] <zamba> th0r: that works very well
[01:00] <mzz> th0r: xp under virtualbox should work fine. I don't remember if you can run it under xen unmodified now.
[01:00] <zamba> th0r: the only thing that really doesn't work is usb devices
[01:00] <Rob0917> hey all
[01:00] <Dr_Willis> the version from the web site does usb from what i gather..
[01:00] <zamba> th0r: you should be able to get windows xp running under xen, but i think that needs some more tweaking
[01:00] <mzz> th0r: well, usb devices work if they work in the guest, iirc the trick where they're passed on to the guest unmodified doesn't work in virtualbox-ose though.
[01:00] <zamba> mzz: any idea about my problem?
[01:01] <zamba> mzz: i know using just a single user account for all the lab machine is a "bad idea" by design, but i don't think it's technically relevant..
[01:02] <mzz> zamba: I'm assuming the unionfs setup lets you kill files in the profile directory one by one? Deleting which file makes it work again? Alternatively try strace-ing firefox to see what it gets stuck on.
[01:02] <th0r> well, looks like there is a lot more research in the queue now <smile>. Will put virtualbox back in consideration and see what I can learn from google. Thanks everyone for the comments....has certainly given me food for thought.
[01:02] <felix_> hi. which package contains update-rc.d?
[01:02] <zamba> mzz: i've tried that deleting file-by-file approach, but then i just ended up with it not starting at all :)
[01:02] <zamba> mzz: but i'll try strace and see what happens
[01:03] <mzz> zamba: that's really odd (if deleting the entire profile works so should deleting it file by file...)
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> felix_: you can use apt-file if no one replys
[01:03] <zamba> mzz: yeah.. one would assume
[01:03] <felix_> ActionParsnip, thanks
[01:03] <zamba> but i'll give it another go tomorrow..
[01:03] <cameron_> Hey does anyone use Tucan Manager?
[01:03] <zamba> problem was i had to get the computers up to run a course half an hour later, so i just wiped the .mozilla folder centrally and rebooted the computers..
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> felix_: http://www.debianhelp.org/node/1262
[01:04] <zamba> the trade-off is slightly slower firefox startup the first time
[01:04] <mzz> zamba: there's a .parentlock in there you might've missed, but I wouldn't expect that to cause this. Or it might be the directory or profiles.ini, but I don't see how that could be either.
[01:04] <DefunctProcess> Can I just dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb and change the UUID's in menu.lst on the new drive │ aiOn
[01:04] <DefunctProcess>                             and boot from it?  /dev/sdb is newer and larger but I plan to resize only the /home      │ ajavid
[01:04] <zamba> mzz: i tried that file as well
[01:05] <mzz> DefunctProcess: iirc those uuids are part of the filesystem, not the drive. So they wouldn't change. Other than that: should work.
[01:05] <Link23> mzz: I'm not too sure the fsck worked but everything's good.
[01:05] <mzz> Link23: failed how?
[01:06] <mzz> DefunctProcess: (but get a second opinion, it's not like I've actually done this recently)
[01:06] <mzz> DefunctProcess: it's possible there's some subtlety involving drive geometry I'm overlooking
[01:06] <ActionParsnip> DefunctProcess: can use partimage if you want to do many ;)
[01:06] <Fohn> mzz: When following the steps given on the fsck site, I didn't even seem to run a fsck. I am trying to run it without reboot now but it says running it on a mounted volume would cause system damage. Can you resend me the link to the site? I can't log at all so I don't know what it was.
[01:06] <Alinn1> mzz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/176794/
[01:06] <mzz> Fohn: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-force-fsck-on-the-next-reboot-or-boot-sequence/ and you're correct
[01:07] <Fohn> about?
[01:07] <Link23> mzz: well I can't find the file.
[01:07] <mzz> Fohn: the problem is you can't easily unmount / from a running system (this would involve dropping to single user mode, which is generally a hassle). So what you do is put in a marker file that causes the boot scripts to run fsck on the next boot.
[01:07] <P4R41> can anyone help me install a quickcam express into 9.04? No app can find the webcam
[01:07] <Artissimo> Hi all. I'm trying to install Ubuntu onto a netbook using a USB Flash Drive. I followed the directions to use dd to copy the iso to the drive, but the drive is not bootable. This is a freshly formatted FAT 32 drive. Any ideas?
[01:07] <mzz> Link23: what file?
[01:08] <Link23> wasn't there supposed to be a file when I ran the fsck?
[01:08] <Fohn> mzz: I did that, but it didn't seem to fsck. I will retry, though.
[01:08] <mzz> Fohn: they can run fsck early on in the boot process, before / is mounted readwrite. This is a bit easier than shutting down enough of the system that you can safely remount it readonly, running fsck, remounting it readwrite, and restarting the world.
[01:08] <Dr_Willis> Artissimo:  what command did you use exactly?
[01:08] <cached> raylu, Dr_Willis: Thanks! It worked.
[01:08] <mzz> Fohn: it's possible /forcefsck isn't actually used by the ubuntu boot system (I'm not really familiar with it)
[01:09] <Dr_Willis> cached:  geat! err.. what worked?
[01:09] <Artissimo> Dr_Willis: dd if=/ubuntu.iso of=/disk/disk3 bs=8m
[01:09] <Fohn> Alrighty, mzz, thanks for the help. I'll keep looking into it.
[01:09] <cached> Dr_Willis: the `date +%H` thing
[01:09] <hasan45oslo> Enter text here...
[01:09] <Dr_Willis> Artissimo:  well.. you dd to the  /dev/sdd   if the usb is sdd.. NOT NOT NOT sd3
[01:09] <hasan45oslo> hello
[01:09] <Dr_Willis> Artissimo:  if thumb drive is /dev/sdb - its dd if=XXXX of=/dev/sdb
[01:10] <Dr_Willis> Artissimo:  and this will totally erase the stuff on the thumbdrive
[01:10] <ActionParsnip> !hi | hasan45oslo
[01:10] <mzz> Artissimo: (obviously be *very* careful the /dev/sdwhatever you target is not a hd with data on it)
[01:10] <Artissimo> Dr_Willis: I could only /dev/disk3
[01:10] <mugen> can someone help me intsall my T43 drivers? I'd appreciate any help!
[01:11] <Dr_Willis> Artissimo:  'disk' that makes no sence.. you access the device by its device name..   plug in the thumbdrive.. wait a few moments  run and 'dmesg' command and see what  the system sees it as..
[01:11] <Gnea> mugen: T43?
[01:11] <Artissimo> Dr_Willis: Im on os x
[01:11] <Link23> mzz: What's supposed to happen after an fsck?
[01:11] <mugen> Gnea: i'm sorry thinkpad T43
[01:11] <mzz> Link23: ideally: nothing, it'll just delay boot a little.
[01:12] <Gnea> mugen: what drivers?
[01:12] <Dr_Willis> Artissimo:  then you need to fighre out how to access the 'root' of the thumbdrive then i guess. You dont do it to a partition on the drive.. you do it to the 'whole drive'
[01:12] <mzz> Link23: but reinstalling xulrunner shouldn't have fixed anything unless your installed xulrunner got corrupted through filesystem damage.
[01:12] <mugen> Gnea: Video card drivers
[01:12] <Link23> mzz: then I guess it might have worked.
[01:12] <cameron_> Does anyone use Tucan download manager?
[01:12] <cameron_> guess not >_>
[01:12] <Artissimo> Dr_Willis: Hm... perhaps someone should update the ubuntu guide then
[01:13] <Gnea> mugen: i'd google but my mouse just went kaput. what video card?
[01:13] <Dr_Willis> Artissimo:  the guide i saw was rather clear in saying use /dev/sda  not /dev/sda1
[01:13] <mugen> Gnea: well i searched the ibm website and it looks like i have this (one sec let me get the page)
[01:13] <Dr_Willis> Artissimo:  but i am on a pc/linux box.
[01:13] <Artissimo> Dr_Willis: on the official ubunut site?
[01:13] <Gnea> !laptop | mugen
[01:14] <Dr_Willis> Artissimo:  its a 'disk' image - not a 'partition' image.. so it has to be to the whole disk.. sort of sucks in ways.. if you dd the image to a 16gb thumbdrive it will  basically waste the otehr 15gb at the end.
[01:14] <Artissimo> Dr_Willis: I can use network boot to boot it wilth a remote iso?
[01:15] <Dr_Willis> Artissimo:  no idea.   You could boot a linux live cd.. and use the more normal linux 'dd' and  device names
[01:15] <Gnea> mugen: you can find out, also, like this:  lspci | grep VGA
[01:15] <Cora> Hi
[01:15] <Artissimo> I dont want to waste a cd
[01:15] <Artissimo> ;-)
[01:15] <Link23> mzz: I uninstalled a few other things that were required.  Also I learned that epiphany was also affected by xulrunner and it crashed to so...
[01:15] <Gnea> Artissimo: blasphemy! ;)
[01:15] <mzz> Link23: yep, they share the engine.
[01:15] <Dr_Willis> Artissimo:  ask in the os-x channels then how to dd somthing to a disk, not a partition
[01:15] <Cora> Hi I'm new here
[01:16] <mzz> Link23: might want to install a simple webkit-based browser (is midori packaged?) for cases like this.
[01:16] <famax8> packages dl fast but still 1 mbs i dont get it
[01:16] <Cora> somebody can help me?
[01:16] <mzz> !hi|cora
[01:16] <Gnea> !ask | Cora
[01:16] <Cora> Oki doki
[01:16] <sebsebseb> Cora: ok what would you like help with?
[01:16] <Link23> mzz: Ok, I'll find one
[01:16] <mugen> Gnea: this is what i got (http://paste.ubuntu.com/176801/)
[01:16] <Artissimo> Dr_Willis: They are dead ;-) ... I will search around online
[01:16] <sebsebseb> Gnea: I don't like the !ask trigger message that much
[01:16] <Gnea> sebsebseb: then don't use it
[01:17] <mzz> (we're horribly impersonal, aren't we)
[01:17] <Cora> The new version 9.04 is stable now
[01:17] <jdu> mzz, Link23 last I checked midori was packaged but not with a stable version in the default repositories.  Google for how to enable a ppa repository for it.
[01:17] <sebsebseb> Gnea: I use it sometimes though
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> Cora: yes, released officially
[01:17] <Cora> because I was trouble installing
[01:17] <Mack> raylu: you were right
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> Cora: did you md5 check the iso?
[01:18] <Cora> yes
[01:18] <Mack> 15-20 min later, i finished making the godfather theme in garageband for hte harp :D
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> Cora: good
[01:18] <Gnea> Cora: during what part of the installation?
[01:18] <Cora> The instalation was fine
[01:18] <mcrandello> "openssh-server: Depends: libcomerr2 (>= cursor-theme-extra) but 1.41.4-1ubuntu1 is to be installed"
[01:18] <khaled_> Does anyone know what package contains regex.h?
[01:19] <Cora> but when I run
[01:19] <Dr_Willis> !find regex.h
[01:19] <Dr_Willis> that one khaled_  :)
[01:19] <mcrandello> anyone else getting that problem? The libcomerr package is already installed
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: didnt know she did that
[01:19] <Cora> the compiz doesn't work
[01:19] <Artissimo> Dr_Willis:
[01:19] <Artissimo> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromImgFiles#Mac%20OS%20X
[01:19] <Gnea> Cora: did you setup your video drivers?
[01:19] <mcrandello> and I've never seen anything like >=cursor-theme-extra
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> Cora: you need to install video drivers
[01:19] <Artissimo> That guide says to just install to /dev/disk3 :-/
[01:20] <Cora> I try find the video drivers
[01:20] <mcrandello> these are both in theory the latest versions from the official sources
[01:20] <th0r> Dr_Willis: were we talking about fusesmb yesterday?
[01:20] <Cora> so I think my video card is black list
[01:20] <Gnea> mugen: (sec, just got my mouse working)
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> Cora: lspci | grep -i vga   will get you started
[01:20] <mcrandello> and openssh is working fine and dandy atm, I just can't install anything else
[01:20] <mugen> Gnea: No problem! I appreicate your help very much
[01:20] <khaled_> Dr_Willis: I am trying to configure an app that asks for regfree in -lregex but apparently, I don't have the package that contains regfree
[01:20] <coeus82> hello, I'm having issues with windows connecting to my shared folder on ubuntu. It can connect to my /home/user/public folder.. but it can't connect to a shared drive. I have set the permissions of the drive to allow guests, but I keep getting a "Network Access denied" error when I try to access it
[01:21] <Cora> and I return to Intrepid
[01:21] <khaled_> Dr_Willis: Do you know what package may contain this function?
[01:21] <Gourlis> which type of themes i can install on ubuntu 8.04 LTS ?
[01:21] <Gnea> mugen: okay, so you've got an intel 915GM
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> coeus82: run: sudo smbpasswd $USER
[01:21] <eseven73> !themes | Gourlis
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> coeus82: then type your password for the samba password
[01:21] <Gourlis> eseven73, i saw the sites but i can't install any theme i want.
[01:22] <eseven73> Gourlis, don't unzip the zip file
[01:22] <coeus82> ActionParsnip: it doesn't ask me for a password and I also set it for guest access
[01:22] <eseven73> just drag the file to the theme manager
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> coeus82: sorry,   sudo smbpasswd -a $USER
[01:22] <Gnea> mugen: have you tried System->Administration->Hardware drivers?
[01:22] <Gourlis> eseven73, thx ;p i was extracted them
[01:22] <Cora> So my friend tell me my video card is black listed
[01:22] <eseven73> common problem :D
[01:22] <Gourlis> eseven73, sorry am a newbie :P haha
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> coeus82: that may be why you are being denied access
[01:23] <panfist> hi, i don't quite know what i did or what i broke. i had normal desktop effects working fine, then after i rebooted, it reverts to none, my gnome panels are gone, and window titlebars are gone (is that called window decorator?)
[01:23] <Gnea> Cora: how can you be so sure? what video card is it?
[01:23] <mugen> Gnea: "no proprietary drivers to use on the system"
[01:23] <eseven73> Gourlis, Ive been using Ubuntu since 7.04 Gutsy Gibbon, im still a noob so don't feel bad ;)
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> panfist: yes its the window decorator
[01:23] <Cora> Is Intel
[01:24] <Cora> My lap is Toshiba Satellite
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> panfist: are you running compiz?
[01:24] <Gnea> Cora: ah, you and mugen have similar video cards then
[01:24] <infinityxi> Cora what model?
[01:24] <panfist> i think so, is compiz enabled on jaunty in normal desktop effects?
[01:24] <Cora> A205 sp5830
[01:24] <dli> Cora, I have an old satellite P30 running
[01:24] <Mack> da
[01:24] <Chr|s> !ot
[01:24] <luis_> hi
[01:24] <infinityxi> ahh, i have an older satellite, just curious
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> panfist: not sure, i have a script to remove all that fluff after a clean install
[01:24] <luis_> im spanish
[01:25] <Mack> raylu: i followed ur advice
[01:25] <Mack> about not wasting time on the emailing thing
[01:25] <Mack> :D
[01:25] <ActionParsnip> !es | luis_
[01:25] <luis_> hola alguien habla español
[01:25] <eseven73> !es | luis_
[01:25] <panfist> when i reboot, i can right click on my desktop, go to change background, which opens the appearance settings and then i can change back to normal visual effects and the window decorator comes back
[01:25] <Cora> I read an Ubuntu Forums the some models of toshiba works the upgrade
[01:25] <panfist> actionparsnip but i want some of the fluff, not all of it
[01:25] <ActionParsnip> panfist: if you use the cube desktop then you are using compiz
[01:25] <Cora> Hola Luis
[01:25] <panfist> no cube
[01:25] <Gourlis> eseven73, then drag tar.gz in to change desktop theme in to Theme ?
[01:25] <coeus82> ActionParsnip: I just did that, restarted Samba and still get an access denied in windows
[01:25] <reddbull> Are there any quick ways to open up a File Browser as root in Ubuntu?
[01:25] <Gnea> Cora, mugen: check this out: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Jaunty#Fix_Intel_915_resolution_problem
[01:25] <chiques> Oopes
[01:26] <SetiAmon> I am trying to install this program called mohegan
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> coeus82: can i see your /etc/samba/smb.conf please  use pastebin
[01:26] <coeus82> ActionParsnip: I can access the shared folder "public" in my home directory without problems, but I can't access the shared mounted drive
[01:26] <eseven73> Gourlis, yep just drag the file to the theme manager
[01:26] <Cora> Gnea: Thanks
[01:26] <infinityxi> reddbull: sudo nautilus should work
[01:26] <panfist> would there be a log stating why the window decorator crashed or why the effects were reverted to off?
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> reddbull: gksudo nautilus
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> reddbull: if you use nautilus
[01:26] <SetiAmon> it says i don't have privleges to copy files to my /usr/share/gnome-screensaver/ So how do i extract it there,I'm trying for terminal but what was the command to extract ?
[01:26] <bragr> Hey guys, I just installed Ubuntu Netbook Remix on my eee PC 1000HE and everything works great except the sound doesn't work, any hints?
[01:26] <Gourlis> eseven73, i dragged kore-berylthemes.tar.gz there something loads fast but doesn't appear there then..
[01:26] <Gnea> Cora, mugen: make sure you're using either the vesa or intel driver - that sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg  command can help with setting it up right
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> infinityxi: sudo is not for gui apps
[01:26] <luis_> alguien habla español aki
[01:26] <Chr|s> !sound | bragr
[01:26] <infinityxi> it is if you're running it from a terminal
[01:27] <ActionParsnip> infinityxi: no, its not
[01:27] <infinityxi> then would it matter? unless he asked for a shortcut
[01:27] <luis_> alguna chica x aki que hable español
[01:27] <eseven73> Gourlis, beryl is outdated, I don't think themes for beryl even work anymore
[01:27] <ActionParsnip> infinityxi: it doesnt set up the environment correctly
[01:27] <eseven73> !beryl | Gourlis
[01:27] <luis_> o alguna sala
[01:27] <Cora> Luis: Hola
[01:27] <coeus82> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.ca/1429454
[01:27] <luis_> hola cora
[01:27] <ActionParsnip> infinityxi: sudo is only for cli commands like apt-get, cp, mv, rm etc
[01:27] <Gourlis> !compiz
[01:27] <luis_> como estas?
[01:27] <Cora> Luis: Bien...y tu
[01:27] <Chr|s> !es | luis_
[01:27] <ActionParsnip> infinityxi: gksudo sets up the environment for gui apps
[01:27] <luis_> bien
[01:27] <SetiAmon> hey
[01:27] <luis_> de donde eres
[01:28] <Gnea> !english
[01:28] <ActionParsnip> infinityxi: kde has kdesudo to do the same thing
[01:28] <luis_> thanks mod
[01:28] <Cora> Gnea: Sorry
[01:28] <SetiAmon> how do i extract folder to /usr/share/gnome-screensaver/ with privlages whats the commandline or how do i do it
[01:28] <luis_> i am skopen english basic
[01:28] <infinityxi> ok i stand corrected. the first line was sufficient/
[01:28] <luis_> im from peru
[01:28] <Gnea> Cora: it's cool
[01:29] <luis_> bye cora
[01:29] <luis_> see you tomorrow
[01:29] <Cora> Gnea: You think I can upgrade de OS and don't have any trouble or is better wait more
[01:29] <luis_> in not speaker spanish
[01:29] <ActionParsnip> coeus82: try adding a line in the definition that says   valid users = <a user name here>
[01:29] <Gnea> Cora: well, you're on jaunty now?
[01:29] <reddbull> infinityxi, ActionParsnip, thanks, just what I needed :-)
[01:29] <Cora> Gnea: I'm sorry but my english is bad
[01:29] <coeus82> ActionParsnip: what user name do I put? My username?
[01:29] <Gnea> Cora: nah, it's fine
[01:29] <gartral> X freezes up when i have firefox/galeon open with too many photos
[01:29] <Gnea> luis_: what language do you speak?
[01:30] <Cora> Gnea: No I"m on Intrepid
[01:30] <freeinput> Hello, I am using a laptop and tried to use an extra display to make a wide desktop for while at home. Since getting that to work I have 2 black bars on the side of my display reducing usable space. Tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg  and  sudo displayconfig-gtk with no help. I am using ubuntu 9.04 netbook remix on a dell inspiron b120. Thanks for any help.
[01:30] <ActionParsnip> coeus82: sure, and any others you want to be able to connect
[01:30] <luis_> it is spanglish
[01:30] <coeus82> ActionParsnip: what about guests?
[01:30] <ActionParsnip> infinityxi: if you get people all of a sudden not able to open an app due to not been able to write to a file in ntheir own home directory its usually becasue they've used sudo gedit ;)
[01:31] <Cora> Gnea: I down grade
[01:31] <Gnea> Cora: oh ok, you *could* try to upgrade, but I would try to get it work first
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> coeus82: its not something i've used so couldnt comment
[01:31] <Cora> Gnea: In live cd
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> coeus82: i use samba but dislike open guest accounts
[01:31] <asd> ////////77
[01:31] <asd> /
[01:31] <Gnea> Cora: if you are in livecd, then it will do no good
[01:31] <asd> wow
[01:31] <FloodBot2> asd: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:32] <coeus82> ActionParsnip: hmm, still doesn't work.. it doesn't even ask me for a login/pass
[01:32] <coeus82> just says access denied
[01:32] <dsnyders> Hi all. Is there a star raiders style game for ubuntu?
[01:32] <Cora> Gnea: No, I said I try Jaunty in Live cd
[01:32] <Gnea> Cora: oooh ok, sorry
[01:32] <luis_> Live CD
[01:32] <Chr|s> !games | dsnyders
[01:32] <Cora> Gnea: Sorry my english is so bad...
[01:32] <luis_> GAMES OF UBUNTU
[01:32] <eseven73> !caps
[01:32] <Chr|s> luis_: please stop
[01:33] <gartral> X freezes up when i have firefox/galeon open with too many photos
[01:33] <dsnyders> Thanks Chris.  I'll check those sites.
[01:33] <eseven73> so switch to opera
[01:33] <Chr|s> !repeat | gartral
[01:33] <ActionParsnip> coeus82: try username guest with no password
[01:33] <Chr|s> dsnyders: :)
[01:33] <godzirra> Is there a howto on installing compiz or is there a newer desktop thingie like compiz to install?
[01:33] <coeus82> ActionParsnip: I noticed that the permissions on /media/disc (the drive I'm trying to share) is drwx------
[01:34] <Cora> Gnea: The firsth time I update my OS directly
[01:34] <Chr|s> !compiz | godzirra
[01:34] <godzirra> Thanks Chr|s
[01:34] <Chr|s> godzirra: np :)
[01:34] <coeus82> ActionParsnip: However, I can't modify the permissions for some reason
[01:34] <Gnea> Cora: from 8.04?
[01:34] <Cora> Gnea: Yes
[01:34] <Gnea> :)
[01:35] <Cora> Gnea: So don't work, the graphics was terrible and slow
[01:35] <Ripzerskins> Hi guys, I need some help.
[01:35] <darthanubis> !help
[01:35] <dsnyders> Chr|s, Would you classify Star Raiders as arcade, action, first person shooter, or simulation?
[01:35] <Ripzerskins> My neighbor has a desktop that needs wireless internet, and she's on ubuntu 8.10
[01:35] <Cora> Gnea: And I need fixed the compiz, because that don't work
[01:36] <gartral> Chr|s: ive been asking for a few hours, waiting about 15 mins between >.>
[01:36] <xyleborus> i need help abaout my graphic cards
[01:36] <darthanubis> !ask | Ripzerskins
[01:36] <Gnea> Cora: okay, can you please pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?
[01:36] <xyleborus> can any one help me????
[01:36] <jfalvarez> hello, I'm trying to add http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntugis/ubuntugis-unstable/ubuntu to my sources.list but I always got a gpg error, somebody knows what's the real key or some link to setup this ?
[01:36] <Gnea> !helpme | xyleborus
[01:36] <Cora> Gnea: Ok, just wait a sec
[01:36] <mzz> gartral: did you figure out the speex question yet? Do you have access to the system through ssh or the like while it is stuck?
[01:36] <Gnea> xyleborus: also, tell us what video card you have, please
[01:37] <Gnea> Cora: sure thing
[01:37] <Ripzerskins> I need to find a wireless networking usb drive that will work with ubuntu 8.10. I don't know where else to look. Any suggestions?
[01:37] <raylu> Mack: :D
[01:37] <ActionParsnip> xyleborus: ask, the room will reply if it can
[01:37] <darthanubis> jfalvarez, the key is on the ppa page, or you can google launchpad master key file
[01:37] <ActionParsnip> !hcl | Ripzerskins
[01:37] <Mack> raylu: and about a half hour later, the godfather written in garageband for the harp :D
[01:37] <Gnea> !wireless | Ripzerskins (a list of compatible wireless USB cards can be found here)
[01:37] <raylu> Mack: nice
[01:37] <Mack> lol yeah
[01:37] <ActionParsnip> Ripzerskins: best way dude, buy what is mega compatible for zero or minimal issues
[01:38] <gartral> mzz: the speex thing was a pebcak, and yes, it *is* Xorg that hangs, i do have ssh access, but i can't kill x unless i zap it, or alt-sysrq-k
[01:38] <freeinput> Hello, I am using a laptop and tried to use an extra display to make a wide desktop for while at home. Since getting that to work I have 2 black bars on the side of my display reducing usable space. Tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg  and  sudo displayconfig-gtk with no help. I am using ubuntu 9.04 netbook remix on a dell inspiron b120. Thanks for any help.
[01:38] <Ripzerskins> Thanks everyone.
[01:38] <mzz> gartral: anything interesting in either /var/log/Xorg.0.log or dmesg while it is stuck, and what driver is this?
[01:38] <qazavul> does anyone know how to make windows app like mabinogi work on ubuntu
[01:38] <gartral> mzz: nvidia 180's..
[01:38] <Gnea> freeinput: 2 black bars? are they horizontal or vertical and what side are they on?
[01:39] <ActionParsnip> qazavul: tried wine?
[01:39] <qazavul> wuts wine
[01:39] <mzz> freeinput: sounds like you just need to change what resolution the screen is in, using either xrandr or your favorite gui equivalent
[01:39] <Gnea> !wine | qazavul
[01:39] <Gnea> mzz: he might also just need to hit the 'auto adjust' button on his monitor
[01:39] <gartral> mzz: i also get the "random horizontal black bars" syndrom
[01:39] <qazavul> is it free
[01:39] <klndz3> I'm having some issues, and I'm hoping it isn't with my video card. I've installed ubuntu 9.04 on a laptop, but when I ran the installation on the LiveCD, my screen displayed the installer kind of broken up (I can provide a picture if you'd like) and disjointed. I went through the install with the disjunct display, and booting the OS from the HDD comes up with the same issue. This also happened when I tried to use a slackware distro as
[01:40] <schambers2> is it possible with compiz to assign an application to always open on a specific space?
[01:40] <mzz> gartral: where?
[01:40] <ActionParsnip> qazavul: yes
[01:40] <Gnea> qazavul: uhm, yes, xrandr is part of xorg, which has been free since day #1
[01:40] <schambers2> or just xfce in general
[01:40] <freeinput> Gnea: they are on both sides of the screen, my screen resolution is messed up. I tried xrandr and no help
[01:40] <ActionParsnip> qazavul: its a best effort abstraction for windows apps. Not everything works well, some dont even work at all
[01:40] <Ripzerskins> The usb network drives on those pages are all either outdate or discontinued. Any other suggestions?
[01:40] <linuxman410> Ripzerskins i use a linksys wireless g usb and it works in 8.10
[01:40] <Cora> Gnea: I have a trouble...I can't open it
[01:40] <ActionParsnip> qazavul: some work amazingly
[01:40] <dsnyders> freeinput, You could try [ctrl][alt][num+/num-] to flip through your resolution modes.
[01:40] <Gnea> freeinput: have you tried the 'auto adjust' button on the monitor? or is it a CRT?
[01:40] <Ripzerskins> linuxman410: Thanks.
[01:40] <mzz> Gnea: I was assuming we were talking about the laptop builtin device. You definitely have a point if it's the external monitor.
[01:40] <fsufitch> hey. does anyone have any idea why moving windows with compiz on (wobbly windows or not) lags, while other more intense parts of compiz (cube, fire, atlantis, etc.) don't lag at all?
[01:40] <ActionParsnip> qazavul: sudo apt-get install wine
[01:41] <gartral> mzz: accross websites at random, and "stick" bars on desktop background
[01:41] <Cora> Gnea: Please forgive me because I'm newbie
[01:41] <mzz> gartral: eep. I have no idea if that's a known nvidia thing, I don't use it myself.
[01:41] <gartral> mzz: ill screencap Wolframalpha in firefox, one moment
[01:41] <mzz> gartral: one thing that's worth trying if you haven't already is disabling desktop effects (compiz) temporarily
[01:41] <schambers2> fsufitch: at what point does it lag? i found a thread about a problem i was having in regards to fglrx drivers and compiz
[01:41] <Gnea> Cora: just do this:  sudo apt-get install pastebinit  and then:  cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit
[01:41] <raylu> fsufitch: recompositing transparency is very intensive
[01:41] <Gnea> Cora: np, that's why we're here to help :)
[01:42] <DeepDayze> hi wirechief
[01:42] <gartral> mzz: nah, i run with no effects, this system isn't all that powerful
[01:42] <Gnea> mzz: well, based on what he said initially, it sounded like he had an external monitor to split the screen between that and the builtin
[01:42] <mzz> gartral: I'd also try the open drivers if you're using the closed ones currently or vice versa, but I don't know if that's an option with your hardware.
[01:42] <freeinput> I am on a laptop display and didn't see a auto adjust botton
[01:42] <fsufitch> schambers2, raylu, it lags all the time i'm moving the window, and even on opaque windows. i'm getting about 5 fps on moving the window, while the rest is running at smooth speed
[01:42] <Ripzerskins> linuxman410: I'm seeing reviews on newegg that say this has bad signal reach
[01:42] <fsufitch> * the rest = while i'm not moving a window
[01:42] <Gnea> freeinput: I may have misunderstood what you said initially
[01:42] <schambers2> oh i saw something different
[01:43] <schambers2> my maximize/minimize lags about 2 seconds due to a bug in fglrx drivers
[01:43] <linuxman410> Ripzerskins mine works just fine and has a good reach
[01:43] <raylu> fsufitch: that's strange indeed. what graphics card? also, glxinfo/xdpyinfo
[01:43] <fsufitch> schambers2, i'm using the official nvidia driver
[01:43] <klndz3> I'm having some issues, and I'm hoping it isn't with my video card. I've installed ubuntu 9.04 on a laptop, but when I ran the installation on the LiveCD, my screen displayed the installer kind of broken up (I can provide a picture if you'd like) and disjointed. I went through the install with the disjunct display, and booting the OS from the HDD comes up with the same issue. This also happened when I tried to use a slackware distro as
[01:43] <gartral> mzz: nonme exist that i can find, its a geforce 6200
[01:43] <schambers2> fsufitch: yeah, i have an ati card :/
[01:43] <fsufitch> raylu, GeForce 8400M GS 256 MB
[01:44] <Cora> Gnea: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[01:44] <Ripzerskins> linuxman410: Thanks. Going to order one. How do you install it in 8.10? It comes with a cd. I'm curious, ndiswrapper or something?
[01:44] <P4R41> how can i check if my webcam driver is loaded?
[01:44] <fsufitch> schambers2, the very reason i use nvidia is because of the crap i had gone thru with ati and intel in the past
[01:44] <mzz> gartral: mmm, if you're using the closed drivers you might want to try #nvidia, and definitely check what the last thing in Xorg.0.log and dmesg is when it gets stuck
[01:44] <ActionParsnip> P4R41: cheese is a good app to test
[01:44] <linuxman410> no 8.10 just reconized it
[01:44] <schambers2> yeah
[01:44] <P4R41> cheese isn't seeing the webcam
[01:44] <schambers2> the ati drivers are a joke
[01:44] <Gnea> Cora: is it? do you have upgrade-manager or synaptic running?
[01:44] <linuxman410> i use it in 9.04 now
[01:44] <schambers2> i mean they work for the most part, but there is obviously issues
[01:44] <P4R41> but i had that issue before and another app did see it. can't remember which tho
[01:45] <wanneng> the net traffic module of gnome-system-monitor  get data from /proc ?
[01:45] <Cora> Gnea: jeje  sorry I try again
[01:45] <mzz> schambers2: fglrx is on the way out, and the open ones are improving (at least 2d should work properly in many cards now)
[01:45] <P4R41> how can i check if a module is loaded?
[01:45] <DeepDayze> fglrx is a joke
[01:45] <mzz> P4R41: lsmod
[01:45] <Gnea> P4R41: lsmod | grep <modulename>
[01:45] <freeinput> sorry hard for me to keep up. to much talking. :) I put an external montior on and since I did my montier on my laptop res is messed up. just have the laptop moniter right now and tried to fix it but the res that I had in not an option now.
[01:45] <mzz> I agree that fglrx is not your friend, and definitely not currently.
[01:45] <wanneng>  the net traffic module of gnome-system-monitor  get data from /proc ?
[01:45] <DIL> e
[01:46] <mzz> wanneng: it might. You'd have to check the code.
[01:46] <Gnea> freeinput: oooh okay - do you have them set to the same res?
[01:46] <DeepDayze> my laptop is a T42 that has a Radeon 7500 builtin
[01:46] <mzz> wanneng: (I think the data it displays is or at least was available through /proc/, but that may not be the only way)
[01:46] <linuxman410> Ripzerskins you might get it cheaper on ebay 8.10 reconzed it i hook it up and then booted computer
[01:46] <DeepDayze> and fglrx don't support it
[01:46] <DeepDayze> radeon driver does
[01:46] <schambers> mzz: with my laptop (lenovo w500), the open source ones cause a dramatic heat rise in the video card. the fglrx drivers don't overheat the vid card
[01:46] <mzz> DeepDayze: yeah, you definitely don't want fglrx for that hardware
[01:46] <fsufitch> schambers, raylu, it also looks like the moving window is not being vsynced (just the window). it has that annoying refresh cutoff line. does that give any clue?
[01:46] <schambers> DeepDayze: w500 here
[01:46] <DeepDayze> the old IBM T42 is a nice machine
[01:47] <mzz> schambers: hmm, have you checked "man radeon" or the #radeon channel for options to underclock it or otherwise control power?
[01:47] <wanneng> mzz:thank you
[01:47] <raylu> fsufitch: i haven't used compiz in a long time; no idea, sorry :P
[01:47] <DeepDayze> i spiffed mine up
[01:47] <Ripzerskins> linuxman410: haha that's awesome. Well, I'm not paying for it, so I'm not looking for too much of a bargain. Newegg has never sold me a defective product.
[01:47] <mzz> schambers: Option "DynamicClocks" "on" sounds promising.
[01:47] <fsufitch> raylu, okay then :)
[01:47] <schambers> mzz: hmm
[01:47] <freeinput> I did when I had it conected, but I don't need the have the external connected all the time. But when I disconected my main didn't go back to how it was from a fresh install.
[01:47] <schambers> mzz: interesting.
[01:47] <schambers> the open source radeon drivers are the xorg-...-radeon drivers correct?
[01:47] <SorenUbuntu> I have partitioned my HDD and installed XP. I am here using the Ubuntu boot disc OS. what is the next step in making a 2 OS HDD?
[01:48] <linuxman410> Ripzerskins hope you like it i know mine works great
[01:48] <nimrod> hey
[01:48] <Gnea> freeinput: after you disconnected the external, did you try restarting X?
[01:48] <Ripzerskins> sorenubuntu: Make a second partition with ubuntu on it. If you already have two partitiosn just select the second partition and install
[01:48] <darthanubis> SorenUbuntu, google dual-boot ubuntu start there
[01:48] <schambers> mzz: this is an option to set in x config?
[01:48] <freeinput> No I did not, but I did restart the computer a couple times.
[01:48] <mzz> schambers: yes, in the Device section for your card
[01:49] <Ripzerskins> linuxman410: My neighbor will, I'll like the payment I get for your help :D
[01:49] <mzz> schambers: check in the manpage if your version of the driver supports it though
[01:49] <SorenUbuntu> Ripzerskins: IDK how, I am very new
[01:49] <P4R41> Gnea there are 2 instance where the module name comes up but the applications still can't see the webcam
[01:49] <Ripzerskins> linuxman410: due to
[01:49] <P4R41> Gnea: there are 2 instance where the module name comes up but the applications still can't see the webcam
[01:49] <Ripzerskins> sorenubuntu: You're on a live cd right?
[01:49] <schambers> mzz: thanks
[01:49] <SorenUbuntu> Ripzerskins: yes
[01:49] <nimrod> i have no sound in youtube. I'm using ubuntu 9.04
[01:49] <Gnea> P4R41: is your user account part of the video group?
[01:50] <Ripzerskins> sorenubuntu: There should be an icon that says install to hard drive or something on your desktop
[01:50] <Gnea> !sound | nimrod
[01:50] <Cora> Gnea: Ok, so this is the result
[01:50] <SorenUbuntu> Ripzerskins: yes
[01:50] <Gnea> nimrod: also, how did you install your flash plugin?
[01:50] <SorenUbuntu> Ripzerskins: it says "Install"
[01:50] <Ripzerskins> sorenubuntu: click on that, it'll make you go through the usual install new os process, then when you get to partion manager simply click on the partition that doesn't have xp on it
[01:50] <Cora> Gnea: http://pastebin.com/F7addd030
[01:50] <schambers> mzz: mine is a radeon hd card tho
[01:50] <Ripzerskins> sorenubuntu wait for a second
[01:50] <schambers> mzz: is that the same manpage?
[01:51] <Gnea> The requested URL /F7addd030 was not found on this server.
[01:51] <P4R41> Gnea: there isn't a video group
[01:51] <Gnea> Cora: ^^^
[01:51] <psycose> hi i'm looking for a doc describing how to rebuild debian package gcc-4.3 (after adding a patch)
[01:51] <Gnea> P4R41: sure there is, #44
[01:51] <Cora> Gnea: Is wrong?
[01:51] <Gnea> P4R41: open a terminal and type:  id
[01:51] <nimrod> Gnea: i installed flash in firefox
[01:51] <freeinput> Gnea: Would it make a difference from restarting x and restarting the computer?
[01:51] <thansom> my sound works, but sometimes it randomly cuts out
[01:51] <Gnea> nimrod: k
[01:51] <Ripzerskins> sorenubuntu: nevermind, I don't know how to help you from there. When it asks for a file type or whatever choose the first from the drop box.
[01:51] <Gnea> !flash | nimrod
[01:51] <thansom> what can I do to reenable it? modprobe it again?
[01:51] <krishna3456> Hi iam a noob to ubuntu.I would like to know how to connect to a internet connection using modem which is currently removed from ubuntu 9.04 version
[01:51] <mzz> schambers: it matches the driver name specified in xorg.conf (or autodetected and showing up in Xorg.0.log). Should be radeon or radeonhd.
[01:52] <Ripzerskins> sorenubuntu: It's been a long time since I've installed
[01:52] <imonthecomputer> hey guys how do I install one specific package from the testing repository? Namely wine 1.1.21 ?
[01:52] <schambers> ok its radeon
[01:52] <Gnea> nimrod: please check that guide and make sure it's installed that way - if you downloaded it directly off of adobe's site, it won't work
[01:52] <Ripzerskins> Sorenubuntu: Back up files on xp, and install.
[01:52] <Cora> Gnea: What happen?
[01:52] <P4R41> Gnea: the user isn't in the video group, i was using the gui user management
[01:52] <SorenUbuntu> Ripzerskins: ok, I will hang around and wait for another helper, but tyvm
[01:52] <nimrod> ok, Gnea
[01:52] <P4R41> Gnea: whats the command to add to the group
[01:52] <eseven73> freeinput, restarting is kind of a Windows crazy thing, same with defragging, virus scanning, not really needed on Linux
[01:52] <schambers> mzz: when i install xubuntu 9.04 it installs the xorg-radeon driver by default, but i uninstalled it because of the heat issues
[01:52] <SetiAmon> anyone here install Mohegan?
[01:52] <Ripzerskins> SorenUbuntu: This is sort of one of those things most people point you towards google for.
[01:53] <Ripzerskins> sorenubuntu: You might as well hit install and learn for yourself
[01:53] <SorenUbuntu> Ripzerskins: , ok
[01:53] <Ripzerskins> SorenUbuntu: or... you know... google
[01:53] <SetiAmon> anyone here install Mohegan?
[01:53] <Gnea> Cora: did you paste it right?
[01:53] <Ripzerskins> SorenUbuntu: good luck
[01:53] <SorenUbuntu> ty
[01:53] <Cora> Gnea: yes
[01:53] <imonthecomputer> hey guys how do I install one specific package from the testing repository? Namely wine 1.1.21 ?
[01:53] <Gnea> Cora: try again
[01:54] <eseven73> !latest | imonthecomputer
[01:54] <freeinput> eseven73: I turn off my computer every night and sometimes my computer tells me to after installing a program. But would that also restart x?
[01:54] <eseven73> yep
[01:54]  * anternative np: 02 [00:15m/652Kbps/32KHz]
[01:54] <Gnea> P4R41: check the properties for your user, in the 'user privelages' tab, make sure you select "Capture video from TV or Webcams"
[01:55] <eseven73> anternative, please turn that off in here
[01:55] <Cora> Gnea: No, I'm using cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit
[01:55] <gartral> mzz: #nvidia is ##dead
[01:55] <P4R41> Gnea: its marked as allowed to do so
[01:55] <imonthecomputer> eseven73, thanks
[01:55] <Cora> Gnea: and the result is the same (whith different numbers)
[01:55] <Gnea> Cora: wait - found it
[01:55] <gartral> mzz: i take it back
[01:56] <Venom010> hey folks how u all doin? im new 2 linux &have problem with adobe flash full screen. can any1 help please!
[01:56] <Cora> ok
[01:56] <Gnea> Cora: http://pastebin.com/f5552d134  :)
[01:56] <imonthecomputer> ubottu, and yes I know it is a huge bug fix for me thanks for the help
[01:56] <mzz> gartral: I probably can't help unless it's something unrelated to the drivers and/or logged
[01:56] <Cora> Gnea: yes!
[01:56] <Cora> Gnea: so now??
[01:56] <gartral> mzz: i could pastebin the log... but i don't know what to look for..
[01:57] <Gnea> Cora: okay, it says that you don't have any default video driver set... does it allow you to select the intel one if you do this:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[01:57] <mzz> gartral: only interesting if it's a log for a stuck Xorg (which means /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old might work depending on if you restarted after the last hang)
[01:57] <alex-weej> Venom010: ask your question first!
[01:57] <imonthecomputer> eseven73, what is the syntax for that command?
[01:57] <schambers> are the xorg display drivers that are in synaptic manager the open source display drivers?
[01:58] <mzz> schambers: they should be
[01:58] <grkblood13> any1 know a good program to run a live talk show. like maybe something that has buttons you can press to play sounds and stuff
[01:58] <eseven73> imonthecomputer, for?
[01:58] <mzz> schambers: (unless they're obviously not, due to being called fglrx or the like :)
[01:58] <Cora> Gnea: Command not found
[01:58] <Gnea> Cora: are you sure you typed it right?
[01:59] <gartral> mzz: i had, yes
[01:59] <psycose>  hi, concerning debian package gcc-4.3, it there something special in packaging this package, because there is a tar.bz2 instead of source, and running debuild is not sufficient to rebuild the package, thanks
[01:59] <alex-weej> schambers: synaptic just lists what's in the repos. both open and closed drivers are in the repos
[01:59] <imonthecomputer> !backports
[01:59] <nimrod> my problem with sound in Ubuntu 9.04 isn't only a youtube problem.... with rhythmbox and banshee to i'm having trouble
[01:59] <schambers> so i'm confused... i have the xorg-radeon drivers installed....
[01:59] <schambers> but i also enabled the propitary drivers via "hardware drivers"
[01:59] <schambers> whats the difference?
[02:00] <imonthecomputer> eseven73, nevermind I am a noob :P
[02:00] <alex-weej> schambers: drivers can be installed but not used. if you enabled the driver via the drivers manager then it will be active
[02:00] <mzz> schambers: the proprietary drivers should be in a package with "fglrx" in the name, iirc.
[02:00] <eseven73> hehe imonthecomputer :)
[02:00] <Cora> Gnea: I typed tree times
[02:00] <schambers> i see
[02:01] <schambers> so just because they're installed via synaptic, doesnt mean they're in use
[02:01] <Cora> Gnea: command not found
[02:01] <gartral> mzz: heres the old
[02:01] <klndz3> I'm having some issues, and I'm hoping it isn't with my video card. I've installed ubuntu 9.04 on a laptop, but when I ran the installation on the LiveCD, my screen displayed the installer kind of broken up (I can provide a picture if you'd like) and disjointed. I went through the install with the disjunct display, and booting the OS from the HDD comes up with the same issue. This also happened when I tried to use a slackware distro as
[02:01] <gartral> mzz: here's current http://gar.pastebin.com/f6a42e9fe
[02:02] <Gnea> Cora: can you copy/paste with mouse?
[02:02] <gartral> mzz: heres the old http://gar.pastebin.com/f30819c87 <- forgot something, there, did'nt I?
[02:02] <Cora> Gnea: yes
[02:02] <Gnea> Cora: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[02:02] <mzz> gartral: err, it going "Initialized AGP Gart." over and over again definitely doesn't look normal to me, but it's hard to tell since I haven't used that driver in ages
[02:03] <syntax\> how can i mount iso files on ubuntu.. i mean like daemon tools on windows? is there a program available on linux
[02:03] <mzz> gartral: anything related in dmesg?
[02:03] <mzz> syntax\: mount -o loop,ro /path/to/file /path/to/mount/point
[02:03] <Cora> Gnea:xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration
[02:03] <Cora>    file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20090520200315
[02:03] <rascal999> when i play music on rythmbox it skips and screws up, can you buffer or suggest another decent music player?
[02:03] <mzz> syntax\: err, add a sudo to that, but you get the idea
[02:03] <Dr_Willis> syntax\:  no need for such hacks.. :) its a feature of the OS.. been a feature for years..
[02:03] <Dr_Willis> !iso | syntax\
[02:04] <nimrod> after i upgraded from ubuntu 8.10 to 9.04 the sound sounds weird in rhythmbox
[02:04] <syntax\> mzz | Dr_Willis  sweet thanks
[02:04] <mzz> syntax\: this does only work for actual iso images. There are conversion utilities out there that convert from weirder formats to standard iso.
[02:04] <Chr|s> !sound | nimrod
[02:05] <Cora> Gnea: so what you think?
[02:05] <gartral> mzz: should i grep the output for anything?
[02:05] <freeinput> Cora I had same thing happen to me.
[02:05] <mzz> gartral: just pastebin the last 100 lines or so
[02:05] <Dr_Willis> syntax\:  theres lso the 'fuseiso' and 'fuseiso9660' tools.
[02:05] <mzz> gartral: I'm not really sure what I'm looking for, mainly anything involving agpgart
[02:05] <Cora> freeinput: So I'm not alone
[02:05] <freeinput> I tried that like 3 times today.
[02:06] <gartral> mzz: dmesg | tail 100 right?
[02:06] <mzz> gartral: dmesg|tail -n100|pastebinit
[02:06] <freeinput> I think that has to do with my res on my screen is bad.
[02:06] <Cora> freeinput: so, when I up grade my lap was slow
[02:06] <gartral> mzz: http://gar.pastebin.com/f2a301ba4
[02:06] <Cora> freeinput: so I Install intrepid again
[02:07] <freeinput> I not sure. I am tring to find out now myself. I am using januty myself
[02:07] <Cora> Gnea: I think jaunty don't work well in my lap
[02:07] <Cora> Gnea: I think is my video card
[02:07] <Cora> Gnea: Is black listed
[02:08] <limpc> hi guys
[02:08] <klndz3> I'm having some issues, and I'm hoping it isn't with my video card. I've installed ubuntu 9.04 on a laptop, but when I ran the installation on the LiveCD, my screen displayed the installer kind of broken up (I can provide a picture if you'd like) and disjointed. I went through the install with the disjunct display, and booting the OS from the HDD comes up with the same issue. This also happened when I tried to use a slackware distro as
[02:08] <scibotic> Anyone know how to trigger a mouse click from a shell script?
[02:08] <mzz> gartral: mmm, agpgart-sis. Not sure if sis chipsets are always completely sane. Might want to try mucking with agp settings a little (force it down to agp 2x perhaps?)
[02:08] <limpc> having a strange problem here with my filesystem. whenever i open a file browser (e.g. program file -> save as..) it takes at least 45 seconds for the dialog to open
[02:08] <mib_jsacf0> i tried to join /server irc.spotchad.org, spotchat tab opens up and it says spotchat (dead) and i cant /join #linuxmint
[02:08] <limpc> it only occurs when i use the file browser (of any program). any idea why this happens? it only recently started
[02:08] <mugen> Gnea: So i tried those guides you recommended me. There are no longer packages like that available. The only reason i'm trying to upgrade my video drivers is websites with a lot of graphic content load slow/sluggish and overall graphic performance seems sluggish. Any other suggestions?
[02:08] <Cora> Gnea: Maybe I will wait more to the problem would fixed
[02:08] <limpc> i dont have an excessive number of files in the folder or anything
[02:08] <mib_jsacf0> spotchat
[02:09] <voss> sis chipsets thats retro
[02:09] <qazavul> i have wine but my game wont run
[02:09] <voss> mugen what video card is this?
[02:10] <mugen> voss: intel 915GM
[02:10] <qazavul> i have wine but my game wont run
[02:10] <Cora> Gnea: Maybe I will wait more to the problem would fixed
[02:10] <Gnea> Cora: sorry, internet dropped
[02:10] <mib_jsacf0> what game
[02:10] <qazavul> mabinogi
[02:10] <voss> mugen how much memory?
[02:10] <Cora> Gnea: don't worry
[02:11] <Cora> Gnea: I think jaunty don't work well in my lap
[02:11] <mib_jsacf0> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=11251&iTestingId=22362
[02:11] <mib_jsacf0> qazavul: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=11251&iTestingId=22362
[02:11] <mugen> voss: 1gb
[02:11] <limpc> anyone have the same issue with filebrowser dialog taking a very long time to open?
[02:11] <voss> mugen do you have a slot on your motherboard for a pci-e card?
[02:12] <Cora> Gnea: I think is better if I wait more to find a way to solve the problem, until that I up grade to Jaunty
[02:12] <mugen> voss: i'm on a thinkpad T43
[02:12] <Cora> Gnea: I think is better if I wait more to find a way to solve the problem, until that I don't up grade to Jaunty
[02:12] <qazavul> wut do i do on the site
[02:12] <mib_jsacf0> sounds like it has a bit of protection that gets confused qazavul when u try to install it.  says it wont work
[02:13] <romeo> how do i associate x-chat in firefox?
[02:13] <Cora> Gnea: sorry remember my english is bad
[02:13] <qazavul> am i able to make it work
[02:13] <mzz> mmm, I wonder why this wireless seems to be working so much better in the download direction than in the upload direction.
[02:14] <mib_jsacf0> unless i linked to it wrong, it should tell you all the conditions and none of them say that  you can get it running under wine at least within 8.04 heron and before
[02:14] <gartral> mzz: can't, i know for a fact the mobo's AGP slot is hardcloced 4x, i tryed a REALLY old 2x card, and it failed to even post
[02:14] <Cora> Gnea: Thanks for your help and patience, you're so nice
[02:14] <mzz> gartral: oh, fun. Yeah, the fact that agp slots usually but not always make it impossible to get that wrong is pretty awesome
[02:15] <chris_> salut
[02:15] <mib_jsacf0> that looks like an interesting game.
[02:15] <godzirra> Hrm.  how do I boot into single user mode in jaunty?  I  tried editing the kernel line for grub and choosing single.
[02:15] <godzirra> But I still have a screwed up screen and its frozen there.
[02:15] <godzirra> I just want it to boot to a ocommand prompt.
[02:15] <mib_jsacf0> um one thing that i wouldnt recommend but you could try is installing windows in the program virtualbox and seeing if that will accept it
[02:16] <schambers> does anyone know to assign applications to specific spaces on startup? in either compiz or xfce/xubuntu?
[02:16] <mib_jsacf0> actually nevermind dont do that, i think the graphics might not work at all actually
[02:16] <limpc> schambers: dont think you can specify specific window managers for specific programs
[02:16] <romeo> excuse me could someone tell me how to get firefox to open x-chat?
[02:16] <gartral> mzz: you may find this helpful somehow http://gar.pastebin.com/f5d2bb036
[02:17] <godzirra> Any ideas?
[02:17] <schambers> limpc: i mean in compiz
[02:17] <schambers> limpc: im using compiz
[02:17] <qazavul> r there any mmos that work on ubuntu
[02:17] <m0> hello is there any way to restore my packages to the original state? I accidently added debian repos and it messed up my kernel to a newer version. And I don't know what else it messed up.
[02:17] <qazavul> or online games
[02:18] <voss> gart, spend $20 get a 5200 nvidia agp card on ebay
[02:18] <limpc> compiz doesnt use a wm.
[02:18] <limpc> it IS a wm.
[02:18] <schambers> i was mistaken
[02:18] <schambers> so is that possible with compiz?
[02:18] <mib_jsacf0> qazavul:  sorry i couldnt help you more and look at this list, i wouldnt recommend getting their live dvd but it has a list of games that you can dl and install for free.  http://live.linux-gamers.net/?s=games
[02:19] <gartral> voss: i have a 6200 right now, im not downgrading
[02:19] <limpc> schambers: there might be a plugin that lets you do per-app (e.g. title name match) theming. i dont know of one though.
[02:19] <qazavul> ty
[02:19] <mib_jsacf0> in mint im pretty sure
[02:19] <mib_jsacf0> i mean ubuntu
[02:19] <limpc> schambers: id guess itll use quite alot of memory if there is such a plugin.
[02:19] <voss> gart so whats wrong with the 6200
[02:19] <Chr|s> !ot
[02:20] <mzz> gartral: really doubt I can help :( try hunting for nvidia driver options that might improve stability, especially anything agp-related
[02:20] <syntax\> mzz | Dr_Willis how can i unmout it?
[02:20] <gartral> voss: nothing, really, just i get horrible "black bars"
[02:20] <mzz> syntax\: umount /path/to/mount/point
[02:20] <limpc> Chr|s: nobodys answering my question =/ theres too many people in here
[02:20] <syntax\> mzz: <mzz> syntax\: mount -o loop,ro /path/to/file /path/to/mount/point <-- how do i unmount this?
[02:20] <voss> maybe you should get a $50 8400gs pci card
[02:20] <mzz> syntax\: see above
[02:20] <Chr|s> !patience | limpc
[02:20] <wrye1> looking for recommendation for an l2tp or pptp vpn server... whats easy to setup?
[02:21] <limpc> lol. triggerbot junkie
[02:21] <gartral> !lol limpc
[02:21] <mzz> limpc: if the hostname of your system does not resolve (is not in /etc/hosts) that can cause odd delays, but I don't know if this is one affected spot.
[02:21] <gartral> !lol | limpc
[02:21] <mzz> drat, timing.
[02:22] <mib_jsacf0> qazavul: does that help? their live dvd has given me some problems with not being able to get audio to work and wireless isint supported
[02:22] <godzirra> Hrm.  how do I boot into single user mode in jaunty?  I  tried editing the kernel line for grub and adding single, but it  still shows a screwed up ubuntu loading screen and freezes there.
[02:22] <syntax\> mzz: err0r@gr0und-zer0:/media/Files/ad/Active Direcotory/lab1$ sudo umount /media/Files/ad/Active\ Direcotory umount: /media/Files/ad/Active Direcotory: device is busy.        (In some cases useful info about processes that use         the device is found by lsof(8) or fuser(1))
[02:23] <mzz> syntax\: cd out of there first
[02:23] <gartral> mzz: the drivers are pretty useless... and they take alot of stuff and make it unchangeable, like "fadeing" from one bg image to the new one...
[02:23] <syntax\> ok thanks.
[02:24] <mib_jsacf0> i tried to join /server irc.spotchat.org, spotchat tab opens up and it says spotchat (dead) and i cant /join #linuxmint
[02:24] <gartral> and all those agpgart activations were me... jaunty doesn't like it when i try to kickstart X or gdm from console...
[02:25] <mib_jsacf0> gaming for free on linux is satisfyingf
[02:26] <mib_jsacf0> just fyi
[02:26] <mib_jsacf0> haha
[02:26] <Aldo_Bellotti> hello im new to irc, could someone help me out with an issue?
[02:26] <LadyNikon> Aldo_Bellotti: just ask mate.
[02:27] <Aldo_Bellotti> ok so ive been using ubuntu for 8 months
[02:27] <LadyNikon> if someone can help they will.
[02:27] <Aldo_Bellotti> 8.10
[02:27] <Aldo_Bellotti> and i just insatalled a new login screen
[02:27] <Aldo_Bellotti> and logged off and it wouldnt let me log back in
[02:28] <Aldo_Bellotti> it basicly wont load the a login screen
[02:28] <Aldo_Bellotti> is there a way i can boot in terminal and change the login screen through terminal?
[02:28] <gartral_> and i forgot, switching off to a VT makes it so i can't switch BACK to VT7 where X is
[02:28] <[zen]> Aldo_Bellotti: log in the text console
[02:29] <Aldo_Bellotti> ok thanks
[02:29] <clueless222> Hello.
[02:29] <[zen]> access it via say, ALT SHIT F4 , Aldo_Bellotti
[02:29] <Aldo_Bellotti> [zen]: ok now what?
[02:29] <gartral_> mzz: anyway to recover an X session without using alt-ctrl-F7?
[02:30] <Qtpaxa> does anybody know if I can set an alarm in my laptop, so it turns on from suspend at some time??
[02:30] <mib_jsacf0> hey this is random but noone can help me with my other questions, is it possible to go from to composite cable on my vcr to an lcd monitor
[02:30] <Cale> Hmm, I use scim to type in Japanese, but it seems to have spontaneously become entirely unusable. If I have it running and I switch to Japanese input (anthy), scim-bridge goes to 100% CPU, and any applications I try to interact with freeze.
[02:30] <[zen]> you can login Aldo_Bellotti, and revert to your previous login screen ^^ what did you do to install it ?
[02:31] <mib_jsacf0> with no tv tuner
[02:31] <Aldo_Bellotti> system>admin>loginscreen
[02:31] <clueless222> I was wondering if it is possible to create a LiveCD with custom packages on it. You help is much appreciated.
[02:31] <Aldo_Bellotti> [zen]: i got it to work
[02:31] <Aldo_Bellotti> thanks
[02:31] <Viking667> I'm trying to connect to a machine via ftp using nautilus, I can't figure out how I'm supposed to set that up. Properties of the "FTP server on machine-name" don't indicate anywhere I can enter a username and password. I've even tried opening the "link" in gvim, not a single thing was present.
[02:33] <peter__> when i browse my files in place i cannot my see my windows partition. Is there anyway to add a shortcut for this?
[02:33] <peter__> when i browse in terminal i can see it but cannot access it
[02:34] <kitty_> hello, i am having problems with my hd free space being reported inappropriately
[02:35] <jigp> hello how to update 9.04 packages?
[02:35] <kitty_> fsck doesn't fix it and i don't get any errors and i can't find 500 or so Mb
[02:35] <kitty_> and the disk is reporting to be full...
[02:36] <kitty_> . /dev/sda1              3944244   3789512         0 100% /
[02:36] <mzz> kitty_: that's normal, some space is reversed for root
[02:36] <mzz> kitty_: that's unless du reports a very different "used" number from df
[02:36] <kitty_> ok let me splain better then
[02:37] <mzz> err, reserved, not reversed. I can spell, I just cannot type...
[02:37] <jigp> hello how to update the packages of ubuntu9.04? sudo update packages is not working
[02:37] <kitty_> i deleted my /var/cache/apt/archives because i ran out of disk space
[02:37] <musikgoat|main> jigp: sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:37] <kitty_> and afterwards it never reported that space as free
[02:37] <kitty_> this is on a thumb drive
[02:38] <musikgoat|main> kitty_: did you delete those files or send them to trash?
[02:38] <booksbuggy> how do i reset the auto eth0 connection on my computer
[02:38] <mzz> kitty_: that'd happen if most of it was still in use. It'd also happen if you were already into the reserved space (used would drop, but available wouldn't go up until you got past the reserved-for-root bit)
[02:38] <kitty_> rm *
[02:38] <peter__> anyone know how to make my windows partition show up in places?
[02:38] <musikgoat|main> kitty_: k
[02:39] <kitty_> i'v rebooted several times, i've even mounted it readonly and ran fsck on it to no avail
[02:39] <kitty_> and everytime i delete something new it never frees up space
[02:39] <mzz> kitty_: does du agree with df on how much of it is used?
[02:39] <a-stray-cat`> anyone have any recommendations for video editing software for linux?
[02:39] <kitty_> no clue what du reports
[02:39] <mzz> kitty_: try "du -shx /" (this'll take a while)
[02:39] <PacoBuntu> kitty final cut gimp
[02:39] <PacoBuntu> D:
[02:39] <linuxman410> booksbuggy just click on it and it will reset
[02:40] <mzz> kitty_: also, are you checking if used goes down or only if free goes up?
[02:40] <booksbuggy> it is not connecting to anything
[02:40] <kitty_> used is going down available stays at 0
[02:40] <kitty_> root@kitty-laptop:/home/kitty# du -shx /
[02:40] <kitty_> du: cannot access `/home/kitty/.gvfs': Permission denied
[02:40] <kitty_> 3.7G    /
[02:40] <FloodBot2> kitty_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:40] <jigp> 5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~MUSIKGOAT|MAIN : sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:40] <meder> i must be a fucking idiot. ive always used command line to shutdown - is there a damn shutdown button in any of the menus on Intrepid ?
[02:40] <jigp> [sudo] password for jigpf:
[02:40] <jigp> sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:41] <jigp> musikgoat|main : its not working.i know my pass
[02:41] <mzz> meder: should be in the "system" menu, iirc. Or was it on the right of the panel? I'm not in gnome...
[02:41] <meder> mzz: not in System
[02:41] <meder> that's the first thing I checked
[02:41] <musikgoat|main> meder: Click on your user name on the right
[02:41] <meder> I wonder if I have to manually enable it
[02:41] <meder> Oh
[02:41] <meder> Oh.. right
[02:41] <qazavul> how do i open a terminal window
[02:41] <FloodBot2> meder: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:41] <mzz> meder: an ubuntuism, this, iirc.
[02:41] <kitty_> so 3789512 ~ 3.7G ?
[02:42] <meder> Heh. ty
[02:42] <jigp> musikgoat|main : ah its working.caps hehehehe
[02:42] <mzz> kitty_: yep, that's close enough. Try "du -max / | sort -n|tail -n100", anything obviously taking lots of space that shouldn't?
[02:42] <jigp> mzz : how to view adobe flash?
[02:42] <mzz> jigp: I don't, it's rarely important anyway.
[02:42] <kitty_> how long could this process take?
[02:43] <mzz> (people asking me questions I have given no indication of being able to answer directly is a sure sign I'm spending too much time on this channel)
[02:43] <jigp> mzz : if i play an adobe site my browser hangup
[02:43] <sebsebseb> kitty_: running a terminal as root can be risky
[02:43] <mzz> kitty_: at most roughly as long as the previous du command.
[02:43] <fireball> hey all! Anyone know how to stop rythmbox from searching for codecs it won't find?
[02:43] <musikgoat|main> mzz: yes, yes it does :-P
[02:43] <mzz> kitty_: oh, forgot to mention, you might have to run that "du" as root (you apparently are already)
[02:44] <sebsebseb> mzz: it looked like she/he was using the root account in the terminal
[02:44] <sebsebseb> kitty_: did you su -i or some such?
[02:44] <mzz> sebsebseb: yeah, I just realised now that you mentioned it
[02:45] <kitty_> did you sort the correct direction, it pooped out a bunch of 24's and such
[02:45] <bc> can someone suggest "screen casting" software that works pretty well?
[02:45] <kitty_> i'm not familiar with the du output
[02:45] <mzz> kitty_: hmm, sec
[02:46] <sebsebseb> kitty_: it's not advised to log into the actsual root account and use it, but  I assume you only gave yourself root in the terminal in the normal user account
[02:46] <mzz> kitty_: works for me...
[02:46] <mzz> kitty_: if for some reason my sort is backwards just use head instead of tail though :)
[02:46] <kitty_> ok well the last line is 3694 /
[02:46] <mzz> kitty_: then it's working.
[02:47] <kitty_> ok so what am i looking at exactly here? (cornfused)
[02:47] <mzz> kitty_: the number is in megabytes now, and the line next to it is the path taking up that much space. so 3694M for root (that's about 3.7G again)
[02:47] <mzz> kitty_: that's everything. You should see /usr, /var etc above that. If in doubt pastebin the output.
[02:47] <booksbuggy> what does it mean when the terminal prints " ignorming unknown interface eth0=eth0?
[02:47] <Fohn> hey mzz, got an fsck to run and I still have zero bytes
[02:48] <mzz> kitty_: you're looking for anything that's taking up lots of space but shouldn't, or taking up lots of space but can be removed safely.
[02:48] <bc> bc: I'm guesing xvidcap is the way to go.
[02:48] <mzz> Fohn: output of "df -h" for the affected partition?
[02:48] <booksbuggy> what does it mean when the terminal prints " ignorning unknown interface eth0=eth0"?
[02:48] <mzz> booksbuggy: when doing what?
[02:48] <kitty_> floodbot: pastebin!
[02:48] <booksbuggy> when i restart the networking device
[02:48] <lstarnes> booksbuggy: using what?
[02:48] <mzz> booksbuggy: also, preferably copy error messages exactly (is it really saying "ignorning"? :)
[02:49] <booksbuggy> well all it prints are:
[02:49] <sebsebseb> !pastebin | kitty
[02:49] <booksbuggy> * Reconfiguring network interfaces...
[02:49] <Fohn> mzz: /dev/sda2             217G  214G     0 100% /
[02:49] <mzz> booksbuggy: what command do you actually run? Consider pastebinning what you're doing.
[02:49] <wheelie207> Does anyone know why ubuntu hasn't started writing code to take advantage of multiple cores
[02:49] <lstarnes> booksbuggy: eth0 might not exist
[02:49] <mzz> Fohn: like kitty_ you're confused by the filesystem reserving some space for root.
[02:49] <booksbuggy> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[02:49] <kitty_> it keeps reserving everything i delete....
[02:50] <Steven> I can no longer alt+tab in Ubuntu. What am I doing wrong?
[02:50] <lstarnes> wheelie207: that's really an issue in the individual programs and possibly the linux kernel, not ubuntu itself
[02:50] <kitty_> Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
[02:50] <kitty_> /dev/sda1              3944244   3789540         0 100% /
[02:50] <Fohn> Indeed I am. What does that mean?
[02:50] <kitty_> is that like 180Mb that should be free that isn't?
[02:51] <mzz> Fohn: by default a small percentage of available space is reserved for root, both to prevent fragmentation by filling the partition completely and to prevent the system grinding to a halt because things like /var/log can no longer be written to.
[02:51] <wheelie207> I guess I should have ask it differently
[02:51] <Fohn> more importantly, why did it start happening now and how do I reduce the space available?
[02:51] <sebsebseb> Fohn: by default  Ubuntu only gives a /  and swap.   /var/log  /boot  and all of it goes in /   including /home
[02:52] <sebsebseb> Fohn: if you did sepeate home  well that would be your data and such,  and everything else would be for the system in /
[02:52] <wheelie207> All thses multiple core cpu's and no one can write code to take advantage of it.. not even windows... hmmmmm
[02:52] <booksbuggy> it just printed " * Reconfiguring network interfaces... and ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0" when i used the command sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[02:52] <booksbuggy> well without the and
[02:53] <kitty_> fohn what happened to you?
[02:53] <sebsebseb> wheelie207: find out in ##linux maybe,  since not distro specific
[02:53] <Fohn> I booted up today and my HD says it has 0 bytes available
[02:53] <sebsebseb> wheelie207: and your talking about hardware so ##hardware
[02:53] <kitty_> same here but mine happened like 5 days ago
[02:53] <kitty_> how large is your hd?
[02:53] <wheelie207> thanks I'll check that out too..
[02:54] <boriz> i have realvnc 4 on my host comp, i need somethign taht'll work with krdc... any suggestions? (windows host)
[02:54] <sebsebseb> wheelie207: ok no problem
[02:54] <Fohn> sebsebseb : I don't think I ever had a separate home.
[02:54] <sebsebseb> Fohn: well some of us do
[02:54] <Fohn> kitty_: That's reassuring. :(
[02:54] <sebsebseb> Fohn: altough not really needed
[02:55] <sebsebseb> boriz: Windows as host eww
[02:55] <sebsebseb> boriz: ##windows may be able to help
[02:55] <kitty_> i'm working off a thumb drive, and i only have 4Gb so partitioning it separately for /home /usr and such isn't to my advantage
[02:55] <swtaarrs> I moved a folder with some video files from my home partition to an ntfs partition in ubuntu, but now when I try to access the files in windows I get an error saying that the location is unavailable and it won't let me look in the folder.  I've done this before without any problems and I don't think I did anything different this time, anyone know what could be going on?
[02:55] <mzz> Fohn: recommend you simply free up some space (sorry for vanishing, hardware problem took down the system I was typing on)
[02:55] <boriz> sebsebseb: hehe okay, not up to me, im just trying to connect to host, and i'm on kubuntu now
[02:56] <Fohn> mzz: I can't free up space. I delete files but it has no effect.
[02:56] <kitty_> mzz, fohn and i seem to be having the same problem
[02:56] <Steven> Need help! A friend told me to go into Nautilus to delete something because the folder I wanted to delete was owned by root. I managed to delete the folder, but ever since I cannot see stuff that used to be on my desktop, alt+tab does not work and right-clcik on the mouse button does not work. Please help!
[02:56] <mzz> Fohn: use "df -m" to get output in megabytes and check for used space going down, not just free space going up
[02:56] <wtl> where's root's trash :)
[02:56] <mzz> kitty_: yep, I'm aware of that.
[02:56] <wtl> how do i permanently delete stuff i moved to trash as root? :)
[02:57] <kitty_> log back in as root and empty the trash
[02:57] <sebsebseb> wtl: what kitty said should do it.  gksudo nautilus
[02:58] <simbioz> hi
[02:58] <Guest45171> how do i make openoffice recognize .docx files?
[02:58]  * kitty_ pulls hair out
[02:58] <simbioz> I cannot get gnome to work with Openbox
[02:58] <simbioz> I found this, it's the same problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7177815
[02:58] <Fohn> mzz: My only question would be how come my root space has inflated so suddenly?
[02:58] <simbioz> but the workaround does not work for me
[02:58] <sebsebseb> kitty_: heh heh why?
[02:58] <Sp3ctr0> hello
[02:58] <Sp3ctr0> hello
[02:58] <booksbuggy> is there a way to set the whole network manager and the text data files to default without internet connection?
[02:58] <freeinput> How do I restart x in gnome??
[02:58] <Sp3ctr0> can someone please help me?
[02:58] <Sp3ctr0> can someone please help me?
[02:58] <mzz> Fohn: I can't answer that. I can give you the same "sudo du -max /|sort -n|tail -n100" to get an overview of what's eating up space.
[02:58] <Fohn> hello ap3ctr0
[02:58] <Steven> Need help! A friend told me to go into Nautilus to delete something because the folder I wanted to delete was owned by root. I managed to delete the folder, but ever since I cannot see stuff that used to be on my desktop, alt+tab does not work and right-clcik on the mouse button does not work. Please help!
[02:58] <sebsebseb> !repeat
[02:59] <wtl> sebsebseb and kitty, i deleted files with gksu nautilus but it just moved 'em to trash. where's the exact location of trash? the trash bookmark on nautilus cant be accessed as root
[02:59] <NvidiaUser> Sp3ctro just ask a question and maybe someone will ansewr it.
[02:59] <NvidiaUser> answer*
[02:59] <sebsebseb> !helpme
[02:59] <kitty_> I can delete files all i want and nothing gives me free space
[02:59] <poseidon> For some reason apache/php isn't working
[02:59] <mzz> kitty_: try "df -m" to get output in megabytes and look for used space going down, not free space going up
[02:59] <imonthecomputer> freeinput, I think ctrl + alt + Backspace kills x
[03:00] <kitty_> it does mzz
[03:00] <sebsebseb> wtl: trash:///
[03:00] <poseidon> If I try going to localhost in my browser it just shows me the contents of / and php files located on my comp aren't parsed
[03:00] <kitty_> i'm running out of stuff to delete that i don't "need" to keep around
[03:00] <simbioz> Steven it seems you screwed it up
[03:00] <mzz> kitty_: the free output in df will stay at 0 until the actual free space exceeds the reserved space I mentioned earlier. This is normal. Just keep deleting stuff.
[03:00] <booksbuggy> is there a way to set the whole network manager and the text data files to default without internet connection?
[03:00] <Steven> How?
[03:00] <kitty_> how do i change the reserved space?
[03:00] <Typh> Either I'm just dumb or the jaunty partitioner is an absolute failure of software. Anyone have some patience? I've got two partitions, one with XP, one that I want to install ubuntu to, preferably in ext4. I can't figure out this partioner.
[03:00] <NvidiaUser> Heh. Not sure where to ask this. Here it goes: Anyone know how to query a server for a file size? (Any programming language)
[03:00] <eseven73> is there a way to create a symlink to another directory but NOT have it create a directory? Like I need photos from /home/eseven73/Pictures to go to /var/www/images/ but NOT /var/www/images/SYMLINK_DIRECTORY/
[03:01] <Sp3ctr0> Well.. I am using a ZTE MF363 modem and ubuntu 9.04 does not recongnize it, my old 8.10 use to do it? how do i do in order to fix this?
[03:01] <mzz> NvidiaUser: define "a server"
[03:01] <sebsebseb> Typh: still some issues with Ext4 in the release notes, and  yes you need to make your own Ext4 partition in partition editor
[03:01] <simbioz> Steven: what was the path of the folder you deleted
[03:01] <Steven> no idea
[03:01] <sebsebseb> !notes |  Typh
[03:01] <simbioz> ¬¬
[03:01] <kitty_> this only started happening after my last system update and i installed a new kernel version
[03:01] <Steven> It was on my Desktop
[03:01] <the_dark_warrio> vim is really unresponsive under Ubuntu... Anyone knows why? For example, scrolling large amounts of lines don't update the screen buffer, and lines get messy..
[03:01] <Steven> It was a folder on my normal desktop owned by root
[03:02] <kitty_> so did they change the amt of space root tries to reserve ? and is there a way to change it back?
[03:02] <NvidiaUser> mzz like any webserver where you can download files from. Umm like download.com when you want to know the file size from a console window
[03:02] <Steven> A friend told me to go into nautilus so I could delete it
[03:02] <Fohn> what do I need to press to make one of those strange vertical lines. Before anyone says so, I do not mean 1 or l or slash.
[03:02] <NvidiaUser> mss I'm downloading files from a console window later
[03:02] <cheebird> |
[03:02] <sebsebseb> Steven: I do the partitions in  partition editor first, then format and tell it what to use the partitions for, in manual install
[03:02] <kitty_> shift + back slash
[03:02] <matuck> Fohn, shift and your backslash
[03:02] <Fohn> thanks
[03:02] <hderms> how do i install the basic nvidia drivers that came with my ubuntu jaunty installation
[03:02] <hderms> I tried using the nvidia drivers from nvidia.com but im having serious graphical errors
[03:02] <sebsebseb> hderms: they don't come with it, you have to install them yes
[03:02] <mzz> NvidiaUser: it depends. I think http can do this (although not necessarily for every file on every server) but for examples like your download.com you may have to go through some redirects to get at the download, and if those aren't the simple http kind following them may be annoying.
[03:03] <sebsebseb> hderms: system > administaration > hardware drivers
[03:03] <hderms> sebsebseb tried that
[03:03] <hderms> it didnt work
[03:03] <DIL> poseidon: /etc/init.d/XXX start
[03:03] <mzz> NvidiaUser: I don't know the exact http request to make offhand (it might've been HEAD)
[03:03] <zorph> a program has SSE2 dependency, but my processor doesnt have sse2 support - any way I can still run it?
[03:03] <jm2k> Quick question: looking at my HTOP or TOP, why does Firefox or other apps run multiple process id's ?
[03:03] <NvidiaUser> mzz thanks I'll look into Perl functions for Http web transfers. oh and Download.com was an example.
[03:03] <poseidon> DIL, I did that
[03:03] <sebsebseb> hderms: oh from nivida.com
[03:03] <simbioz> Steven: it's hard to get a solution to your problem if we do not know what you deleted
[03:03] <lstarnes> jm2k: they might be one process with many threads
[03:03] <booksbuggy> is there a way to set the whole network manager and the text data files to default without internet connection?
[03:03] <sebsebseb> hderms: if you do that,  you can get problems yeah
[03:03] <mzz> zorph: I suspect not, but having a hard sse2 dep isn't that common
[03:03] <poseidon> sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[03:03] <hderms> yeah and under hardware drivers nothing appears anymore
[03:04] <pyrak> what's the name of the image viewer in ubuntu?  i want to open it up from the command line.
[03:04] <sebsebseb> hderms: yeah under hardware drivers would be the one from repo, if there was something available
[03:04] <mzz> zorph: and I doubt it'd run acceptably even if you could run it
[03:04] <DIL> poseidon: ok
[03:04] <lstarnes> pyrak: it might be eog
[03:04] <sebsebseb> hderms: only install  directly from  nividia.com as a last resort, because you can get problems
[03:04] <zorph> ok mzz
[03:04] <simbioz> Steven: maybe you should got your friend to help you ;) and kick his ass too :P
[03:04] <Typh> OK, I'll keep the ext4 issues in mind, but regardless is it an option from this partitioner or no? And how do I use the entire partition for Ubuntu? I tried "side by side" and it gave me a partition just big enough. "Specify manually" seems awkward and is leaving 1.5 GB in between the partitions.
[03:04] <pyrak> or, alternately, is there a command to open a file with the "default program" for that typeof file?
[03:04] <jm2k> lstarnes: i thought that might be it.
[03:04] <simbioz> get*
[03:04] <zorph> mzz, im not 100% sure about my processor not supporting sse2 though, how can I check?
[03:04] <kitty_> ok seriously though i can't use webbrowser to goto the forums and see if there is a solution
[03:04] <mzz> zorph: cat /proc/cpuinfo, look in "flags"
[03:04] <kitty_> i'm lucky that this irc client even works
[03:05] <rCX> Is there a text editor that preserves the newlines chars of files? I am working with DOS files and I want to avoid using unix2dos with gedit.
[03:05] <kitty_> so is there someone that wants to hold my hand before i have to give up and reformat?
[03:05] <sebsebseb> kitty_: humm
[03:05] <mzz> rCX: doesn't gedit do that already?
[03:05] <Fohn> kitty_: Do you perchance have a system backup program?
[03:05] <sebsebseb> kitty_: what has happended exactly, since I haven't been following all of your issue
[03:05] <mzz> kitty_: did you manage to pastebin that du -max / | sort -n | tail -n100?
[03:05] <zorph> thanks
[03:05] <kitty_> I CAN NOT USE WEB BROWSER
[03:05] <sebsebseb> kitty_: sounds like you been  trying to delete things that you shoudn't have really
[03:05] <rCX> mzz: I saw some other threads but you have to use unix2dos.  It's not automatic...
[03:05] <kitty_> so yeah i pastebin'd it
[03:06] <jumentous> hi, i'm trying to setup a touchscreen using evdev, i've configured hal so that x sees it and when i do a xinput list i see the touch as an extension pointer and using evtest on the net i can confirm that there are events coming through /dev/input/eventX - what am i missing, why isn't anything happening
[03:06] <pyrak> lstarnes, thanks
[03:06] <kitty_> with my testiclites
[03:06] <ldiamond> Can anyone tell me how to open a port on Ubuntu (the port is forwarded correctly on the router)
[03:06] <sebsebseb> !caps |  kitty_
[03:06] <mzz> kitty_: does "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" still work (it's pretty small, it'll hopefully fit)
[03:06] <eseven73> is there a way to create a symlink to another directory but NOT have it create a directory? Like I need photos from /home/eseven73/Pictures to go to /var/www/images/ but NOT /var/www/images/SYMLINK_DIRECTORY/
[03:06] <sebsebseb> kitty_: if Firefox has gone wrong, all you need to do is  delete or move it's profile.  from  home folder
[03:06] <Fohn> mzz: The problem is we have absolutely no room.
[03:06] <sebsebseb> kitty_: the hidden .mozilla folder
[03:06] <mzz> rCX: I know emacs does this just fine as long as it's either an existing file or I remember to tell it to write as dos
[03:06] <lstarnes> ldiamond: I think no ports are blocked by default.  You will just need to start a program that listens on a port to open it
[03:06] <sebsebseb> kitty_: then when you start Firefox again, you have a new profile
[03:06] <mzz> rCX: learning emacs for this may be overkill though. Weird gedit doesn't get it right.
[03:06] <ldiamond> lstarnes, doesnt seem to work.
[03:07] <mzz> Fohn: apt-get runs as root. It'll *probably* still work
[03:07] <zorph> mzz, so no sse2 in flags, tha tmeans no support?
[03:07] <Fohn> However I believe that the problem might have been that my system was backing up an taking up tons of space.
[03:07] <mzz> zorph: correct
[03:07] <kitty_> sebsebseb everytime i start firefox it says "thanks for updating" cause it can't save the file that says "i've already seen this" cause the hd is reporting itself as full
[03:07] <Fohn> mzz: Ah, now I see.
[03:07] <ldiamond> lstarnes, I did however enable ufw (I then disabled it and now its marked as inactive)
[03:07] <mzz> kitty_: then just "sudo du -max / | sort -n | tail -n100 | pastebinit"
[03:07] <hderms> where can i find ubuntu graphics card binary repos
[03:07] <wtl> sebsebseb, i cant access trash:/// with nautilus as root
[03:07] <lstarnes> ldiamond: there might be a rule in iptables doing it.  Check sudo iptables --list
[03:07] <DIL> !ln
[03:08] <jm2k> kitty: you can start a new profile in Firefox with "firefox -ProfileManager" and debug after why FireFox hangs or wont work sometimes.
[03:08] <zorph> how can I check if a program needs sse2 support?
[03:08] <sebsebseb> wtl: humm
[03:08] <mzz> jm2k: I'm pretty sure that'll just fail too, because the partition's full
[03:08] <mzz> jm2k: no room to add that profile
[03:08] <mzz> zorph: how's it failing if you just try to run it?
[03:08] <ubuntu> when i boot in my install it says there isn't an init= line, what do i do?
[03:08] <ubuntu> and it busyboxes me
[03:08] <mzz> zorph: I'd expect either an obvious error message (program is nice and checks) or it crashing with SIGILL (program doesn't bother to check)
[03:08] <jm2k> mzz: missed that, thx for correction.
[03:08] <wtl> sebsebseb, Found it! It's under /home/.Trash-0! :D
[03:08] <zorph> illegal instruction
[03:08] <ldiamond> lstarnes, nothing in the IPtables
[03:09] <kitty_> http://pastebin.com/f453cfeff
[03:09] <sebsebseb> kitty_: well yeah find out if it is full,  there are graphical programs for that, but  mzz seems to be suggesting a command line way
[03:09] <mzz> zorph: that might be missing sse2 support, or it might be some kind of corruption.
[03:09] <sebsebseb> wtl: ah of course why didn't I think of that
[03:09] <mzz> zorph: what kind of program is this?
[03:09] <kitty_> mzz: http://pastebin.com/f453cfeff
[03:09] <sebsebseb> wtl: probably would of after a little while
[03:09]  * phoenixz is away: Gone away for now
[03:09]  * phoenixz is away: Gone away for now
[03:09] <Fohn> My firefox still runs, my problem is that for some reason it does not display bookmarks or allow me to click buttons. Most likely related to my HD fullness
[03:09] <zorph> mzz, sonic visualiser
[03:09] <mzz> phoenixz: please turn that off
[03:09] <LjL> !away > phoenixz    (phoenixz, see the private message from ubottu)
[03:10] <wtl> sebsebseb, it's unconventional. when i looked at it under /home/ , i was expecting to see a .local. hehe
[03:10] <mzz> sebsebseb: feel free to add gui alternatives to my commandline suggestions, I'm just more comfortable on the commandline myself, which leaks into my suggestions
[03:10] <sebsebseb> wtl: hidden folders yeah  hidden .folders
[03:10] <mzz> kitty_: 160m in /lib/restricted-modules seems a bit excessive
[03:10] <sebsebseb> mzz: command line is usauly better yeah, but there are also some pretty nice  graphical apps out there and such
[03:10] <mzz> can someone give me a friendly way to kill old installed kernels and modules?
[03:11] <Steven> I deleted a program called Kmuddy
[03:11] <Steven> I installed Kmuddy to the desktop
[03:11] <mzz> sebsebseb: I never really got around to liking baobab for some reason.
[03:11] <sebsebseb> mzz: what's  baobab?
[03:11] <mzz> kitty_: you have three old kernels and corresponding modules installed. Removing those will help.
[03:11] <NvidiaUser> mzz if I'm reading this right the HEAD Request will show content lengths of remote files. ;)
[03:11] <Fohn> mzz: Gah, I just did that like a week ago, but the technique totally escapes me...
[03:11] <mzz> sebsebseb: gnome diskspace usage visualization thingy
[03:11] <wtl> sebsebseb, .local because the non-root trash is under ~/.local :D
[03:11] <magician0617> bow chicka wow wow
[03:11] <Steven> He had me do alt+f2, "gksu nautilus" and I moved Kmuddy folder from the desktop through cutting it and pasting it into the root desktop in the file system and then moved it to trash from there. That is all I did
[03:12] <Bllasae> how do i install ubuntu 9.04 over the previous version?
[03:12] <TViYH^> need help guys
[03:12] <sebsebseb> mzz: that didn't say about space that's the other command or even pydf if it's installed
[03:12] <sebsebseb> !diskfree
[03:12] <sebsebseb> !find diskfree
[03:12] <NvidiaUser> TViYH just ask and maybe someone can help you.
[03:12] <TViYH^> i already have ubuntu on a partition, so if i install ubuntu studio, can i somehow have it write on top of the current ubuntu?
[03:12] <booksbuggy> what is /etc/postfix/main.cg?
[03:12] <Fohn> mzz: You were totally right! I now have free space after killing some old backups
[03:12]  * phoenixz is back.
[03:12] <sebsebseb> mzz:  I would use  kdiskfree or  gtkdiskfree
[03:12] <booksbuggy> what is /etc/postfix/main.cf?
[03:12] <sebsebseb> !find kdiskfree
[03:12] <mzz> mmm
[03:13] <Bllasae> how do i install ubuntu 9.04 over the previous version?
[03:13] <TViYH^> NvidiaUser, i already have ubuntu on a partition, so if i install ubuntu studio, can i somehow have it write on top of the current ubuntu?
[03:13] <kitty_> ok now i finally have 77k free
[03:13] <sebsebseb> kitty_: sudo apt-get install  gtkdiskfree
[03:13] <sebsebseb> kitty_: nice little graphical program, that will show you how much space is being used and not being used
[03:13] <kitty_> ... is there a way to reduce the ammount of reserved space for root?
[03:13] <NvidiaUser> TViYH^ Sorry I have no idea what Ubuntu Studio is :O ;)
[03:13] <sebsebseb> kitty_: well if you have space to install it hum
[03:13] <mzz> kitty_: notice those /lib/modules/* dirs. You should only need the latest one of those, and the same for the matching stuff in /lib/restricted-modules and /boot. I just don't know the right aptitude command to get rid of the three old ones.
[03:13] <booksbuggy> what is /etc/postfix/main.cf?
[03:14] <kitty_> i already cleaned boot out, i'm gonna go for the modules now
[03:14] <TViYH^> NvidiaUser, it's a distro of linux, it's basically a graphics edition of ubuntu
[03:14] <mzz> kitty_: yes, but I strongly recommend you don't use it because the filesystem will get unhappy (fragmented) if it's very close to full.
[03:14] <mzz> kitty_: see "man tune2fs" if you're desperate.
[03:14] <phoenixz> mzz: LjL: Sorry
[03:14] <sebsebseb> kitty_: maybe you should just clean install :)
[03:14] <mzz> phoenixz: no problem, as long as you turned it off :)
[03:14] <phoenixz> Just installed konversation, seems like it has some weird basic settings, I didnt see it till now
[03:14] <phoenixz> mzz: Turning it off now! :)
[03:14] <lstarnes> booksbuggy: it's the configuration file for postfix
[03:14] <phoenixz> sorrryyyyyyy!
[03:15] <sebsebseb> phoenixz: I  used Konversation for ages,  nice app
[03:15] <sebsebseb> phoenixz: I am looking forward to a KDE4 version
[03:15] <NvidiaUser> TViYH^ You could always make another partition and install it there and have Ubuntu and the Ubuntu Media edition. But if you select the partition that Ubuntu is on then yes you will write over it and delete everything on that partition.
[03:15] <kitty_> ok thats helpful, is there a way to get tune2fs to report the current configuration ?
[03:15] <phoenixz> sebsebseb: well, there is quassel for KDE4.. the idea is like koknversation, its just that it does NOT work... that makes it a bit crap..
[03:15] <sebsebseb> phoenixz: does not work what?
[03:15] <TViYH^> NvidiaUser, kk, thanks mate
[03:16] <TViYH^> NvidiaUser, also, one more question
[03:16] <sebsebseb> phoenixz: and quassel  I had that open briefuly, and was like no thanks, and back to Konversation
[03:16] <booksbuggy> lstarnes: everytime when i try to use "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" i get a fatal error saying that /etc/postfix/main.cf is not found
[03:16] <TViYH^> NvidiaUser, i'm going to overwrite this ubuntu partition, so how can i be able to access my vista partition from it?
[03:16] <TViYH^> NvidiaUser, have a tut?
[03:16] <lstarnes> booksbuggy: you could try uninstalling or reinstalling postfix
[03:16] <kseise_> #synce
[03:16] <Dr_Willis> !info postfix
[03:16] <booksbuggy> lstarnes: i don' t have internet connection
[03:17] <kitty_> ah, -l /dev/sda1 (/me stabs*)
[03:17] <ldiamond> Anyone know why a program running on Wine can't listen on a port (62415 here)
[03:17] <TViYH^> NvidiaUser, ^
[03:17] <Dr_Willis> booksbuggy:  postfix is for email. are you evenneeding it?
[03:17] <mzz> kitty_: you might need dumpe2fs for that, but again I strongly recommend you just free up some space (just killing those old kernels may suffice)
[03:17] <sebsebseb> ldiamond: try asking in #winehq ?
[03:17] <mzz> kitty_: you also seem to have bits of both kde and gnome installed, some cleanup in that area may help too
[03:17] <phoenixz> sebsebseb: If you use it for like a little while its okay.. The problems start with the bugs.. Joining a channel takes like 2-5 minutes, don't ask me why..
[03:17] <kitty_> that freed up about 360Mb for now, but it's reserving like 400
[03:17] <phoenixz> sebsebseb: joining also puts your CPU usage in 99%
[03:17] <sebsebseb> phoenixz: no not at all
[03:18] <phoenixz> sebsebseb: and many times you are in a channel and you cant write.. etc etc etc...
[03:18] <booksbuggy> Dr_Willis: /etc/postfix/main.cf is what the command sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart keep on trying to open
[03:18] <sebsebseb> phoenixz: I don't have any of those problems :)
[03:18] <kitty_> i installed bits of kde cause it was required for some of my "educational" applications, so only what was needed was installed
[03:18] <TViYH^> NvidiaUser, nevermind, i'll just find a tut myself..
[03:18] <TViYH^> later guys
[03:18] <sebsebseb> phoenixz: the only problem app I have is Ubuntu's version of Firefox,  when it uses a lot of CPU and makes my computer barely useable
[03:18] <Dr_Willis> booksbuggy:  that command restarts all the services..if you never bothere4d to configure postfix.. then postfix is giving you that warning.. it shouldent affect networking much if at all.
[03:18] <kitty_> Block count:              993920
[03:18] <kitty_> Reserved block count:     49696
[03:18]  * kitty_ stabs
[03:18] <booksbuggy> Dr_Willis: well i don 't know how to fix the internet connection on my linux machine
[03:19] <mzz> kitty_: ok, just checking. Still really weird if this happened suddenly, it's not like the amount of reserved space changes
[03:19] <kitty_> this had to have changed with the latest round of kernel updates from 23 to 24
[03:19] <Dr_Willis> booksbuggy:  if you really want to find a main.cf  the command 'locate main.cf' finds 3 example ones in  /usr/share/postfix  you could copy one over.. or just disable the postfix service if you are not using it.
[03:19] <kattollikisd> how do i install the last version of open office oh ubuntu 8.10?
[03:19] <Dr_Willis> booksbuggy:  i doubt if postfix is causing any issues to the rest of the connection.
[03:19] <booksbuggy> Dr_Willis: how do i disable postfix?
[03:19] <sebsebseb> phoenixz: joining a channel is instant with Konversation for me :)
[03:19] <mzz> kitty_: oh, how often do you use /usr/share/gnome/help/ ? :)
[03:19] <phoenixz> sebsebseb: yeah, got firefox issues as well, but LOTS worse.. the high CPU rate is because I have like 70 pages open :D the less nice issues I have deal with fonts, they slowly get messed up.. after about one hour, I cant read any text anymore, its one garbage
[03:19] <phoenixz> sebsebseb: here same, as it should be
[03:20] <kitty_> lol, not too often, i prefer man pages myself,
[03:20] <sebsebseb> phoenixz: yep a lot of tabs open and it can go bad
[03:20] <mzz> kitty_: check /var/cache/ for any remaining obvious cruft, and please rerun sudo du -max /|sort -n|tail -n100|pastebinit now that you've killed those stray kernel bits
[03:20] <sebsebseb> phoenixz: however it's also not  the version directly from Mozilla, but similar
[03:20] <Dr_Willis> booksbuggy:  you could remove it with 'sudo apt-get remove postfix' if you are not needing it.. and nothing else depends on it. but some other services may 'depend' on it. even if its not being used.
[03:20] <booksbuggy> Dr_Willis: oh
[03:20] <sebsebseb> phoenixz: installing from the tar.gz might help.  or even getting whatever is the current  development version of Firefox 3.5 installed
[03:21] <burbuja> hi is there a spanish ubuntu chanell, please?
[03:21] <lstarnes> !es | burbuja
[03:21] <burbuja> thanks a lot
[03:21] <Dr_Willis> booksbuggy:  theres some command to disable services from the runlevels - but i dont rember it..
[03:21] <booksbuggy> Dr_Willis: even in 8.10?
[03:21] <sebsebseb> phoenixz: here same, as it should be?  what was that a reply to
[03:21] <phoenixz> sebsebseb: FF is already at 3.5? geez... Im stuck at 3.0 I think..
[03:21] <sebsebseb> phoenixz: no Firefox 3.5 is not out yet
[03:21] <Dr_Willis> booksbuggy:  depends on what the box is doing.. if you need postfix or not.
[03:21] <NvidiaUser> TViYH^ I'm back. If you select the Ubuntu Partition and not the windows one you'll be fine. And then you'll need to reinstall Grub and have it show Windows 7 on the bootloader screen.
[03:21] <mzz> phoenixz: 3.5 is in beta
[03:22] <phoenixz> sebsebseb: joinging a channel is instantly, as it should be
[03:22] <sebsebseb> phoenixz: ,but  even development versions of Firefox in my experience, have been pretty stable
[03:22] <booksbuggy> Dr_Willis: oh
[03:22] <sebsebseb> phoenixz: altough so far only ran those on Windows
[03:22] <mzz> phoenixz: (and 3.1 up to 3.4 were skipped, because who needs sane version numbers anyway)
[03:22] <phoenixz> they should have better gnome and KDE integration in firefox, by the way.. AND the every page in a separate process too, would be very very nice!
[03:22] <burbuja> hey I said to my friend that 30GB are not enough for xp an ubuntu, is it right?
[03:23] <phoenixz> mzz: yeah.. firefox is very creative! with version numbers.. Next firefox will be 7.. then the next one after that 5...
[03:23] <burbuja> and 300MB RAM
[03:23] <mzz> phoenixz: doing one page per process is hard because the underlying ui code and all extensions (which are mostly equivalent really) see one dom tree per window, with the pages pretty much part of that.
[03:23] <DaZ|> burbuja: 30gb is enough
[03:23] <sebsebseb> burbuja: 30GB  is a lot for Ubuntu
[03:23] <Dr_Willis> burbuja:  you can have a useable ubuntu sustem on 10gb hd..
[03:23] <phoenixz> burbuja: well.. could be.. 10GB linux, 20 windows.. the 20 windows you then mount in ubuntu
[03:23] <phoenixz> burbuja: that way, in ubuntu you can access the entire 30GB
[03:23] <mord> no-remote -ProfileManager %u" and only allow flash on one profile :)
[03:23] <Dr_Willis> given how cheap HD's are...  and what i do.. i can fill up 30gb.. real fast.
[03:24] <mzz> phoenixz: so if you do one process per page (page per process, huh, I must be tired :P) you either get lots of inter-process communication (which you'd have to get fast and deadlock-free) or massive api breakage affecting many extensions
[03:24] <raylu> mzz: speaking of sane version numbers... ubuntu...
[03:24] <sebsebseb> burbuja: 30GB is loads for Ubuntu,  unless you got home inside  /  and  then start filling it up with massive files or something
[03:24] <Dr_Willis> raylu:  the Date of release as a version # isent logical enough? :)
[03:24] <mzz> raylu: heh, at least there's a pattern to those
[03:25] <burbuja> phoenixz: I know that it is possible but it is a few .... I would say
[03:25] <raylu> i'm also reminded of winamp combining features from 2 and 3 to make winamp 5.
[03:25] <sebsebseb> burbuja: the swap space,  12GB  or so /  and big seperate home,  that would be a good set up
[03:25] <phoenixz> mzz: they ARE actually working on that already, read it somewhere but dunno  the link anymore
[03:25] <burbuja> and 300MB RAM?
[03:25] <mzz> raylu: (I guess we're supposed to read "3.5" as "halfway from 3 to 4", but at the same time you get 3.0.9, 3.0.10, etc, so huh)
[03:25] <phoenixz> burbuja: its a few wha?
[03:25] <hderms> how can i purge all my nvidia files
[03:25] <hderms> and xorg configurations
[03:25] <Dr_Willis> how do you get '300' mb of ram? :)  thats an odd #
[03:25] <mzz> phoenixz: want the link? I should have it in my history
[03:25] <sebsebseb> burbuja: 1GB  swap in your case  since 300MB RAM
[03:25] <phoenixz> burbuja: 300MB is not much but should be workable
[03:25] <mzz> phoenixz: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Content_Processes
[03:25] <phoenixz> mzz: uuww... don't remember.. I read about it like 1,5-2 weeks ago
[03:26] <booksbuggy> well at least he doesn 't only have 256
[03:26] <burbuja> well the problem is my friend is mexican
[03:26] <burbuja> he will need spanish support
[03:26] <phoenixz> burbuja: me too.. sort of.. :)
[03:26] <Dr_Willis> !es | burbuja
[03:26] <burbuja> :D
[03:26] <phoenixz> !es | burbuja
[03:26] <burbuja> yes yes
[03:26] <cfedde> wow!  remove and re-install restricted extras and the flash plugin and it seems to work again
[03:26] <burbuja> ok
[03:26] <phoenixz> Dr_Willis: damn you're fast!
[03:26] <Dr_Willis> phoenixz:  :)
[03:26] <burbuja> phoenixz: I have 320 GB
[03:26] <burbuja> so 30are a few
[03:26] <Dr_Willis> phoenixz:  No Hablo!
[03:27] <phoenixz> Dr_Willis: no more coffee for you
[03:27] <Dr_Willis> phoenixz:  :( ill just go drink my ovatine and go to sleep then. :)
[03:27] <phoenixz> burbuja: 320GB.. I suppose you're talking about your harddrive.. if youre talking RAM I want to be your boyfriend.. :D
[03:27] <Dr_Willis> Night all..
[03:27] <burbuja> sure sda2
[03:27] <storbeck> Dr_Willis always leave whenever I join
[03:28] <phoenixz> burbuja: in any case, mounting NTFS really isnt a big deal anymore
[03:28] <burbuja> sda
[03:28] <phoenixz> burbuja: 30GB is more more more than enough for both winXP and ubuntu
[03:28] <burbuja> phoenixz: I installed my linux on master drive :(
[03:28] <kitty_> mzz : http://pastebin.com/f66e051c2 i'm gonna go for the headers next
[03:28] <burbuja> muy bien phoenixz
[03:28] <burbuja> gracias
[03:29] <phoenixz> burbuja: first install XP,  let it have 20GB for fun.. then you install ubuntu, let it have the other 10GB, it will install a boot menu and you can choose during startup which of the 2 you want to use
[03:29] <phoenixz> burbuja: 300MB also should be enough for ubuntu.. its not a lot but it will work
[03:29] <hderms> how can i purge all my nvidia files
[03:29] <hderms> and xorg configurations
[03:29] <mzz> kitty_: yeah, kill three out of four /usr/src/linux-headers-* trees
[03:29] <hderms> so that i have a clean X
[03:29] <hderms> is there a good xorg configure tool?
[03:30] <phoenixz> hderms: the xorg config is in /etc/X11/
[03:30] <sam_> where can i download a dock?
[03:30] <arand> phoenixz: 300mb, I thought 4gb was ~min
[03:30] <burbuja> phoenixz: and swap?
[03:30] <eseven73> is there a way to create a symlink to another directory but NOT have it create a directory? Like I need photos from /home/eseven73/Pictures to go to /var/www/images/ but NOT /var/www/images/SYMLINK_DIRECTORY/
[03:30] <hderms> phoenixz: i know ive deleted it
[03:30] <hderms> but if i keep installing nvidia drivers
[03:30] <hderms> they will not wrok
[03:30] <hderms> work
[03:30] <hderms> and i'd like to have hardware acceleration
[03:30] <phoenixz> burbuja: Put it on a partition of 500MB, should be enough
[03:30] <hderms> whatever ubuntu defaulted to seemed to work
[03:30] <eseven73> !enter | hderms
[03:30] <kitty_> k, thanks mzz
[03:31] <kitty_> you've been of much helps
[03:31] <phoenixz> hderms: check for restricted hardware drivers.. AFAIK, NVIDIA has 2 different drivers, the open source one and hte resttricted closed one
[03:31] <mzz> kitty_: I wonder how much of /var/cache/apt can be safely removed too
[03:31] <ty5479> Does anybody have a guide to setting up windows 7 dual boot with 9.04? I've tried useing the beta of easyBCD with no luck. Is there a way to configure gnome or lilo or anything?
[03:32] <phoenixz> burbuja: during installation of ubuntu, if you choose auto partitioning, ubuntu already should partition it correctly
[03:32] <mzz> kitty_: oh, and 30M in /root seems a bit high
[03:32] <ty5479> It doesnt detect Win7 for whatever reason.
[03:32] <burbuja> geparted?
[03:32] <nomasteryoda> !gparted
[03:32] <mzz> kitty_: wait what, /root/.wine? Please don't do that
[03:32] <phoenixz> ty5479: oh wonder... windows 7 does not let it self be installed parrallel to something else? really?
[03:32] <burbuja> phoenixz: he has xp now
[03:32] <burbuja> I mean he would like to resize it
[03:32] <burbuja> withou reinstalling
[03:32] <phoenixz> burbuja: no problem.. you dont need gparted
[03:32] <treyh> anyone know of a link to get aircrack and etc. working to crack wep's on Jaunty?
[03:33] <phoenixz> burbuja: just download and use the live CD
[03:33] <burbuja> yes, this is what I told him
[03:33] <kitty_> i accidently did a wine cmd from root shell
[03:33] <mzz> treyh: aww, don't crack those poor weps, it happens to them so often already... also, !piracy may apply here
[03:33]  * phoenixz mumbles something to treyh about legal stuff..
[03:33] <burbuja> ok, he runs ths live CD and then?
[03:33] <kitty_> and i have a bootable grub iso builder in my /root folder
[03:33] <kitty_> which is the 30Mb
[03:33] <treyh> mzz: it's for security testing, not actual hacking lol
[03:33] <burbuja> where has he to start the installation?
[03:33] <mzz> kitty_: nope, 24M out of the 30M is /root/.wine :)
[03:33] <treyh> i enjoy not being in prison lol
[03:33] <kitty_> ok well anyways thanks mzz
[03:34] <kitty_> maybe i deleted it in my attempt to free space ! ;P
[03:34] <phoenixz> burbuja: you can then in the installer say howmuch you want for ubuntu.. The installer will automatically resize windowsXP to a "better" size, so that there is space for ubuntu to install itself..
[03:34] <kitty_> thanks again
[03:34]  * kitty_ waves
[03:34] <mzz> np
[03:34] <burbuja> and defragmentation?
[03:34] <phoenixz> burbuja: just make sure that, obviously, there is 10GB free in windows XP, if you want 10GB for ubuntu, since the installer, obviously again, won't delete stuff... :)
[03:34] <burbuja> of xp?
[03:35] <burbuja> sorry I did not used ubuntu
[03:35] <phoenixz> burbuja: not needed, the isntaller will nicely move everything (practically, defrag it automatically for you)
[03:35] <burbuja> :O
[03:35] <burbuja> waw very nice
[03:35] <phoenixz> burbuja: just use the live cd.. thats all you need, everything will go automatically from there
[03:35] <burbuja> may be I will change to ubuntu
[03:35] <burbuja> :(
[03:35] <yankefish> hey guys i have a ? about installing ubuntu
[03:36] <phoenixz> burbuja: even the boot menu will be automatically.. after installation, you reboot and you can choose: windows or ubuntu
[03:36] <yankefish> i have a 30 gb partation how should i split it
[03:36]  * phoenixz whispers something about kubuntu, KDE is cool...
[03:36] <arand> phoenixz burbuja: I would actually recommend closer to 20-30GB in an xp partition, if it's going to be used regularly... (from personal experience)
[03:36] <phoenixz> burbuja: What you see above
[03:37] <phoenixz> arand: burbuja: isnt that what I said? 10GB for ubuntu, 20 for XP... if you want to resize later, you can do that using gparted
[03:37] <burbuja> ok :)
[03:37] <yankefish> ok i have a 30 gb partation i want to know how much the swap should be, as the ext3
[03:37] <panfist> where could i find log information relating to my window decorator starting up / crashing
[03:37] <phoenixz> arand: burbuja: gparted is like.. using a club for brain surgery, but it works.. I'd prefer LVM but that is still not standard supported in the live CD :(
[03:37] <ShexNivis> yankefish: how much you got from ram?
[03:37] <yankefish> 4 gb ram
[03:37] <phoenixz> yankefish: howmuch ram?
[03:37] <arand> phoenixz: oh, I thogh you said something about 10gb, nvm
[03:38] <phoenixz> yankefish: 4GB swap should do it
[03:38] <burbuja> phoenixz: I am now on debian sidux :(
[03:38] <burbuja> I use apt
[03:38] <ShexNivis> yankefish: I would use half of the memory
[03:38] <phoenixz> !pm | yankefish
[03:38] <burbuja> and I install with dpkg
[03:38] <yankefish> np so how big should my swap file be and is it a primary or logical
[03:39] <ddoom> I have ubuntu 9.04 and a system with 3 sata hard drives, if i connect any 2 hard drives it works fine, but if i connect all 3 it fails to boot with an raid45 - unknown target type error, and it drops to EasyBox - any ideas?
[03:39] <phoenixz> burbuja: no, you install using a graphic utility or if you want to do command line, you use apt-get which downloads and installs everything automatically from a repository
[03:39] <phoenixz> yankefish: 4GB should so it
[03:39] <yankefish> it that primary or logical
[03:39] <phoenixz> yankefish: anything more than 4GB takes the use out of swap.. more then 4GB swap is bad idea :)
[03:39] <Rafael_> how cn i place link of a text that i would like to ask that is long
[03:39] <phoenixz> yankefish: does not matter..
[03:39] <phoenixz> yankefish: if you can, try using LVM, makes it MUCH easier to resize later
[03:39] <arand> yankefish: general guideline is swap ~ double ram size, you'll need at least equal or more than ram if you plan on using hibernation, and yet more if you know that you use applications that could eat memory...
[03:40] <burbuja> yes I love graphics installer
[03:40] <phoenixz> arand: hibernate does not copy to swap, does it?
[03:40] <burbuja> phoenixz: I have now separated /home
[03:40] <phoenixz> arand: and more than 4GB swap really is not a good idea
[03:40] <burbuja> how can I clean it before installing ubuntu?
[03:40] <phoenixz> burbuja: excuseme? how?
[03:41] <cfedde> on the other hand having a system that is actively using a lot of swap is considered a bad thing.
[03:41] <yankefish> now i have 30 gigs free how do i install ubuntu now
[03:41] <burbuja> my home is on sda2
[03:41] <phoenixz> burbuja: you have linux installed already, but a different distrubution or somehting?
[03:41] <burbuja> yes
[03:41] <arand> phoenixz: it does and you need swap > ram for hibernation to work...
[03:41] <burbuja> different distro
[03:41] <burbuja> with kde 4.2
[03:41] <phoenixz> arand: burbuja: cfedde: imagine having a system that is swapping 4GB... :S
[03:41] <ShexNivis> phoenixz: hey, do you think it is a bad thing to have /, /home and swap at a extended partition? or does not really matter either if they are a primary or extended?
[03:41] <cfedde> phoenixz: been there.  done that.
[03:42] <burbuja> sorry my first questions ware for my friend
[03:42] <burbuja> these are for me
[03:42] <ShexNivis> phoenixz: extended partitions*
[03:42] <burbuja> I have 320GB HDD
[03:42] <phoenixz> ShexNivis: does not really matter.. but for practicals sake, I'd recommend you to take a look at LVM
[03:42] <yankefish> nah new install
[03:42] <burbuja> 40GB system
[03:42] <arand> One could use swapfile, but that won't work with hibernation (something that's planned to work in the future..)
[03:42] <yankefish> after i create the swap file what is next
[03:42] <ShexNivis> phoenixz: got any good reference link about LVM?
[03:42] <Stargazer> Hey guys, i'm trying to use [ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605 ] but i'm using Vista, not XP (it sucks, believe me). I'm on step 2 and i cannot find 'LAN connections.' any ideas?
[03:42] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Ok, loading a page in Firefox crashes the system, any suggestions on how to find out why?
[03:43] <phoenixz> yankefish: I just finished installing kubuntu using LVM.. all my partitions can now easily be resized.. the install is a little tricky but there is a good tutorial on the subject
[03:44] <yankefish> Phoenixz i have already booted the live cd, created a 4 gb swap file now what do i do
[03:44] <phoenixz> yankefish: burbuja: ShexNivis: http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-install-ubuntu-over-lvm-filesystem  just remember to ALSO do a vgchange -a y at the end of that tutorial!
[03:44] <xy|ox> CoJaBo-Aztec, take a look at error console
[03:44] <burbuja> thanks
[03:44] <phoenixz> yankefish: AFAIK, the ubuntu installer auto partitioning should be able to specify that all for you, no?
[03:44] <Xpistos> can someone tell me how to view all of my shared folders in ubuntu?
[03:44] <ShexNivis> phoenixz: tnxs buddy
[03:44] <Xpistos> I need to unshare them
[03:44] <Stargazer> Hey guys, i'm trying to use [ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605 ] but i'm using Vista, not XP (it sucks, believe me). I'm on step 2 and i cannot find 'LAN connections.' any ideas?
[03:45] <yankefish> it keeps saying to make a root file
[03:45] <CoJaBo-Aztec> xy|ox: How?
[03:45] <arand> yankefish: are you using advanced installer?
[03:46] <yankefish> ok guys how many partations do i need to install ubuntu
[03:46] <ubugtu> is jaunty more secure than intrepid or hardy?
[03:46] <phoenixz> ShexNivis: the lvm tutorial is a bit tricky, won't recomend it to newbies, but if you think you can do it, I really do recommend it!
[03:46] <Xpistos> Stargazer: go into the control panel and switch to classic control panel. There you will find network connections
[03:46] <yankefish> Arand im using ubuntu live cd of main website
[03:46] <xy|ox> CoJaBo-Aztec, tools - error console
[03:46] <ShexNivis> phoenixz: wont follow it just gonna read and see what i can get from it : )
[03:46] <CoJaBo-Aztec> xy|ox: Once the system crashes, I can't do anything.
[03:46] <phoenixz> ShexNivis: you do know LVM?
[03:46] <yankefish> i need to know how to install, i have a 30 gb free how can i install ubuntu on it
[03:47] <panfist> i can't get my gnome panels to re-appear
[03:47] <Stargazer> Xpistos, i'm there but i see no 'LAN connections' options.
[03:47] <ShexNivis> phoenixz: no hahaha : )
[03:47] <Seafarer> Hi Guys. Hope you don't mind my joining your conversation. I am using Ubuntu 9-4 and having difficulty connecting a wireless printer. Anyone like to chat?
[03:47] <yankefish> after u create a swap file what is the next step
[03:48] <phoenixz> ShexNivis: basically, its a layer in between your partitions and your operating system.. lets you pool all partitions together to one large volume, and from ther you can create and modify any logical volume the wya you want.. the only thing better then LVM is ZFS which, unfortunately will never come to linux Im affraid..
[03:48] <phoenixz> not outside FUSE anyway
[03:48] <arand> yankefish: you normally need the main ubuntu partition with mountpoin root "/" then a swap, and you might want a separate partition with home "/home" which would simplify migration when reinstalling ubuntu,
[03:48] <SetiAmon> aye how about hygien in linux,i mean what is the equivolent of crap cleaner in linux?what program will clean the temp/log bs as well as secure deleting it
[03:48] <phoenixz> yankefish: I think I would recommend you the auto partitioning from the installer.. are you using hte live CD?
[03:48] <yankefish> yeah im using live cd
[03:49] <phoenixz> yankefish: then go one step back, and then for partitioning, select the auto option :) way safer! :)
[03:49] <ShexNivis> phoenixz: too bad some good softwares wont come to linux ; /
[03:49] <yankefish> i cant i have vista installed already
[03:49] <CoJaBo-Aztec> xy|ox: Its a complete lockup, mouse pointer moves, but nothing else works.
[03:49] <phoenixz> ShexNivis: blame patents :)
[03:49] <yankefish> dont want to format my hdd thats why i created a partation myself
[03:49] <phoenixz> yankefish: and? so?
[03:49] <jmhodges> i'm looking at the apt-cache man page, but i'm not seeing this. how do i snag a listing of all teh files in an installed .deb?
[03:50] <burbuja> my friends heard about installing ubuntu form xp :O
[03:50] <phoenixz> yankefish: hahahah... forget that.. remove the partition
[03:50] <burbuja> *from
[03:50] <yankefish> so delete it and make it free space
[03:50] <burbuja> this is not good, right?
[03:51] <phoenixz> yankefish: burbuja: windows XP installed is no problem, you don;;t need to make partitions.. just reboot your machine and boot from the CD.. There you select install, and the installer will use free partition space, and if needed, move the windows partition away for you..
[03:51] <carlgibson> hello, quick partition mounting question if someone has a sec
[03:51] <yankefish> ohh ok i see and it wont affect windows in any way
[03:51] <mzz> the fact that lvm volumes (and the device nodes generated for them) have readable names is already quite convenient even if you don't do anything fancy with how they're arranged over physical drives
[03:51] <phoenixz> yankefish: burbuja: We're talking your friendly neighbourhood super hero here...
[03:51] <burbuja> yes, I understand
[03:51] <Stargazer> Xpistos, you still there?
[03:52] <burbuja> I told to my friend it is bad choice to intall ubuntu within xp
[03:52] <burbuja> also out of xp
[03:52] <xy|ox> CoJaBo-Aztec, i'd try to close the tab that causes the crash, it should take its time, then console error
[03:52] <phoenixz> yankefish: not in anyway but that the windows partition can be made smaller if you want to.. it will automatically defragment and resize the windows partition for you, ONLY if you wish... the process is automatically, and safe but DO MAKE BACKUPS!
[03:52] <yankefish> aight Phoenixz i got it thx 4 da help
[03:52] <Xpistos> Stargazer: Switch to classic view
[03:52] <phoenixz> burbuja: actually, I remember reading that you can start the installer from within XP already.. go ahead and try! :)
[03:52] <CoJaBo-Aztec> xy|ox: I tried, but the system (not just Firefox) is completely locked up.
[03:53] <phoenixz> yankefish: whah? :)
[03:53] <burbuja> :O
[03:53] <burbuja> incredible
[03:53] <panfist> i am having an issue with visual effects. if i enable normal effects, everything works fine, but everytime i reboot it resets to no visual effects, and certain things like my window decorator fail to start. everything just works when i re-enable normal effects. how can i get that to stick when i reboot?
[03:53] <yankefish> ok last step i have vista as primary Os, ubuntu has options to install boot loader should i or just use vista boot loader
[03:54] <phoenixz> yankefish: nah, use ubuntu boot loader.. it just works..
[03:54] <yankefish> aight thx
[03:54] <phoenixz> yankefish: and as I just told burbuja, you can even start to vista and start the installer from there.. should take you right into ubuntu and do the rest of the work from there
[03:54] <yankefish> now where can i get some cool appz 4 ubuntu
[03:54] <xy|ox> CoJaBo-Aztec, try another browser if its the same, its just a bad page, i wouldnt visit anymore
[03:54] <phoenixz> yankefish: burbuja: any problems you encounter during installation, you can always come here to IRC
[03:55] <yankefish> Phoenixz thx 4 all da help also
[03:55] <arand> phoenixz: does that boot the livecd or wubi though?
[03:55] <burbuja> thank you a lot phoenixz
[03:55] <Stargazer> Xpistos, that doesn't show me a 'Network Connections' item, i do though have a 'Network and Sharing Center' but that does not bring me to an LAN connections menu, either.
[03:55] <CoJaBo-Aztec> xy|ox: Problem is it should not be able to bring down the entire system, so I need to know why it does.
[03:55] <burbuja> you are very friendly :)
[03:55] <phoenixz> yankefish: apt-get (command line) or synaptics (ubuntu graphical interface) or kpackage (kubuntu)
[03:55] <yankefish> anybody know where to get appz
[03:55] <rkitect> i just placed some automount lines in fstab, and rebooted the system.  The mounts failed to occur, but now the physical drive is not appearing in the /dev folder and fdisk is failing to fins the physical drive and the partitions.  Any suggestions on where to go from here?
[03:55] <rkitect> at this point i have restored fstab back to its original state without the lines i added
[03:55] <rkitect> the mounts were working when i did them manually before placing the lines in fstab
[03:55] <yankefish> is there anyways to make ubuntu reconize my ntfs files
[03:55] <phoenixz> yankefish:  ubuntu does not work like windows where you go to website and download an exe.. you can install directly from the command line, or from a package manager program
[03:56] <phoenixz> burbuja: np, here to help
[03:56] <burbuja> :)
[03:56] <arand> yankefish: or simply use the add/remove programs from main menu
[03:56] <phoenixz> arand: sorry, dont understand :)
[03:56] <yankefish> aight thx guys
[03:56] <yankefish> what about ntfs files
[03:56] <phoenixz> arand: that one, yea.... sorry, Im a kubuntu guy, but i thought it was called synaptics for ubuntu, no?
[03:56] <arand> yankefish: it will normally be ble to read your ntfs drives automatically
[03:56] <rCX> Sry to repeat but Is there a text editor that preserves the newlines in files? I want to avoid using unix2dos
[03:56] <phoenixz> yankefish: no problem, you can mount ntfs without problem
[03:57] <yankefish> ok thats it m8's im done thx 4 all da help
[03:57] <arand> phoenixz: synaptics is one level down compared to the gnome-app-install
[03:57] <yankefish> f windows i like linux now lol
[03:57] <phoenixz> arand: ah, okay, didnt know that
[03:57] <phoenixz> yankefish: one day (k)ubuntu, and you'll never want to return to windows anymore..
[03:58] <phoenixz> arand: truth be told though.. while still superior to windows, 9.04 is one of the worst ubuntu releases I've seen so far.. Are there any more people that have problems?
[03:59] <krishna3456> i have a problem with 9.04
[03:59] <krishna3456> my internet does not connect
[03:59] <Dulak> 9.04 has had the least problems for me of any ubuntu release
[03:59] <arand> phoenixz: Oh, it's been lovely on my part, I've managed to hit the exact right hardware... But it is sure noticable here in the channel, intel, ati, sound not working.... et.
[03:59] <rkitect> any suggestions on why a disk is not showing up in /dev after adding mount lines to fstab?
[04:00] <rkitect> or with fdisk -l for that matter?
[04:00] <krishna3456> gnome-network-admin is not working at all for me
[04:00] <phoenixz> arand: you lucky bastard.. I got intel chipset laptop... I got it fixed with running kernel 2.6.30 but geez, this never has been this bad
[04:00]  * arand hugs nvidia card
[04:00] <phoenixz> arand: ubuntu is not having problems with pulse? heard lots of stuff bout that too
[04:00] <krishna3456> what can i do to fix this gnome-network-admin problem
[04:01] <arand> krishna3456: what kind of network are you connecting to?
[04:01] <phoenixz> rkitect: fstab is for mounting disks, not for showing up in /dev..
[04:01] <losher> phoenixz: time-based release strategy == death
[04:01] <phoenixz> rkitect: check the command "dmesg" before and after connecting the harddrive and see hwat the kernel says about detecting it
[04:01] <rkitect> phoenixz: sorry, did i say fstab -l, i meant fdisk -l
[04:02] <krishna3456> broadband using modem
[04:02] <phoenixz> losher: not entirely I suppose.. depends a bit on developers and packagers, both need to consider that
[04:02] <phoenixz> rkitect: check dmesg
[04:02] <rkitect> phoenixz: the physical disk was showing up  earlier, but now it's not.  checking now
[04:02] <ubugtu> is jaunty more secure than intrepid or hardy?
[04:02] <phoenixz> rkitect: dmesg should say that it detected the disk and made it available, or complain with errors
[04:03] <arand> phoenixz: not many problems for me, but it does seem something is frequently borking sound, whether it's pulse or something else idk
[04:03] <phoenixz> ubugtu: I suppose each subsequent version SHOULD be more secure.. :) but thats a wild guess
[04:03] <g0wda> anyone know what segment fault is??
[04:03] <phoenixz> g0wda: means a program borked up
[04:03] <arand> g0wda: program crash, pretty much
[04:03] <ubugtu> phoenixz: im not after wild guesses. thanks though
[04:03] <phoenixz> if that explains anything :)
[04:03] <MF_Debian> when you drop a piece of orange on the floor and someone trips on it
[04:04] <birk> anyone here use znc? I'm setting a password in my config, but then when I goahead and try to connect I get a msg saying Invalid password :(... anyone have any ideas?
[04:04] <g0wda> my shitty shell script is sayin that!
[04:04] <phoenixz> MF_Debian: lol
[04:04] <krishna3456> can any one plz pm me who can say some information on my gnome-network-admin problem.
[04:04] <arand> phoenixz: "bork" way to define a tricky work ;)
[04:04] <phoenixz> g0wda: then check if the bad shelscript is using commands that ccause it, because AFAIK, shellscripts themselves cant segfault, it would be bash that would segfault then.
[04:05] <birk> can anyone help me?
[04:05] <phoenixz> krishna3456: !pm
[04:05] <phoenixz> !pm | krishna3456
[04:05] <setuid> Anyone use Freemind? How do I configure the size of those enormous fonts on the menubar?
[04:05] <cellofellow> I just installed Jaunty fresh, and need to mount my .Private directory which I restored from a backup. ecryptfs-mount-passphrase returns a "not set up" error.
[04:06] <setuid> cellofellow, did you mount ~/.Private?
[04:06] <phoenixz> geez
[04:06] <phoenixz> !pm | krishna3456
[04:06] <arand> krishna3456: okay, so what happens when you try to connect? does the network show up as "connectable" in the network icon-applet, does it give any messages?
[04:06] <krishna3456> i pmed you phoenixz
[04:06] <Sagaci> is the a command to autoplay/autostart a CD?
[04:06] <losher> ubugtu: check what the 9.04 release notes say about security fixes. But pretty much any supported release gets the important security fixes, so I see no reason to assume any of the releases is significantly more or less secure.
[04:06] <phoenixz> !pm | krishna3456 for godsake! :)
[04:07]  * arand thinks ubottu is being a bit impolite :D
[04:07] <krishna3456> i asked gnome-network-admin is not working
[04:07] <rkitect> phoenixz: ok i see where it's detecting the drive now, it's coming back with a qc timeout
[04:07] <Barridus> !fail
[04:07] <phoenixz> krishna3456: wat exactly is not working?
[04:07] <phoenixz> rkitect: dunno what qc timeout is, sorry
[04:07] <doc|laptop> anyone know when "effects" will be available for intel graphics cards again? It seems to be disabled since jaunty
[04:07] <cellofellow> setuid: well, yes, but I don't think it has the passphrase
[04:07] <Seafarer> When attempting to install a network printer, my Ubuntu 9-4 does not find it at the http address I gave even though my Windows Vista and XP recognize the address as correct.
[04:07] <phoenixz> doc|laptop: I have a fix..
[04:07] <Bllasae> how do i install ubuntu 9.04 over the previous version?
[04:08] <arand> krishna3456: okay, so what happens when you try to connect? does the network show up as "connectable" in the network icon-applet, does it give any messages?
[04:08] <Barridus> doc|laptop, i have intel gfx and everything works
[04:08] <phoenixz> doc|laptop: let me look for the URL again.
[04:08] <krishna3456> i installed gnome-network-admin when i start that it has to have a button to unlock it but it doesnt exist on the window
[04:08] <doc|laptop> phoenixz: sweet, thanks
[04:08] <doc|laptop> Barridus: not for me for some reason
[04:08] <rkitect> phoenixz: says failed to read native max address
[04:08] <krishna3456> unlock is not present in the applet
[04:08] <Barridus> doc|laptop, maybe different chipset?  i forget what mine is, whatever the acer aspireone has
[04:09] <doc|laptop> Barridus: maybe
[04:09] <krishna3456> so what ever changes i do are not bieing saved as root
[04:09] <phoenixz> rkitect: ummm.. you got me here.. maybe try #linux for the big boys?
[04:09] <rkitect> try a couple of other things first real quic, thanks for getting me this far
[04:09] <phoenixz> krishna3456: you might consider running it then from a shell with sudo gnome_network_applet I suppose?
[04:10] <krishna3456> i have did that
[04:10] <Bllasae> how do i install ubuntu 9.04 over the previous version?
[04:10] <krishna3456> it got the same window but i can see a error
[04:10] <SetiAmon> Wouldn't update in ubuntu download and update the os?
[04:10] <arand> krishna3456: are there any particualar reason you installed that package? network-manager should work normally...
[04:10] <krishna3456> error is :gtk.combobox.items.error
[04:11] <pegon> Okay I know this is a weird question..but was just curious who here uses compiz and who doesn't?
[04:11] <krishna3456> it is because modems are not having auto configuration in 9.04
[04:11] <krishna3456> it asked me to download that package
[04:11] <Bllasae> i have the CD
[04:11] <Bllasae> anybody know how?
[04:11] <arand> krishna3456: ok
[04:11] <wheelie207> I tried compiz before and didn't like it and disabled it..
[04:12] <phoenixz> doc|laptop: crap, I cant find the link anymore! well, basically, you have to install the 2.6.30 kernel from launchpad, and then add these repos to apt sources.list, and then apt-get update..  deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/xorg-edgers/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main #xorg-edgers PPA and deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/xorg-edgers/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main #xorg-edgers PPA
[04:13] <doc|laptop> phoenixz: great, thanks
[04:13] <Barridus> i usually have compiz off, and when/if i have it on it's fairly conservative settings, i find it distracting generally
[04:13] <doc|laptop> phoenixz: is that being added into default any time soon do you know?
[04:13] <phoenixz> doc|laptop: youd have to look for the 2.6.30 kernel yourself, but it should be the files linux-headers-2.6.30-020630rc5_2.6.30-020630rc5_all.deb, linux-headers-2.6.30-020630rc5-generic_2.6.30-020630rc5_i386.deb andlinux-image-2.6.30-020630rc5-generic_2.6.30-020630rc5_i386.deb
[04:13] <krishna3456> anyone has any possible explanation for my problem?
[04:13] <arand> phoenixz: doc|laptop  I think there are patched versions of the intell drivers in jaunty-proposed as well which you might want to try first...
[04:13] <phoenixz> doc|laptop: 2.6.30? noway, not till 9.10 anyway
[04:13] <doc|laptop> arand: thanks
[04:13] <doc|laptop> phoenixz: argh, ok, thank you
[04:14] <phoenixz> doc|laptop: besides, this is EXPIRIMENTAL.. It was recommended to me, I tried it and iti works great! Look at this smile! :D
[04:14] <doc|laptop> phoenixz: :)
[04:14] <pegon> wheelie207, and Barridus...I usually have it on but I am seeing a major speed difference when it is on and off
[04:14] <phoenixz> doc|laptop: then again, it might send your harddrive to hell.. in any case, don't blame the messenger (That would be me)! :)
[04:14] <doc|laptop> phoenixz: hehe, ok, thanks again
[04:15] <wheelie207> it really slows down the system when using compiz...
[04:15] <phoenixz> arand: doc|laptop: correct, there are multiple solutions availabe, and in all honesty, I'd try mine at the very last.. there was this page that showed like 4 solutions, but I lost it :(
[04:15] <phoenixz> wheelie207: using intel?
[04:15] <doc|laptop> no worries
[04:15] <Barridus> pegon, yes speed is another concern.  i usally have a bunch of apps going and compiz can make it choke up a bit.  i'll take speed over pretty any day, but that's just me
[04:15] <wheelie207> yes..
[04:15] <phoenixz> wheelie207: intel graphics?
[04:15] <wheelie207> Nvidia
[04:15] <S_A> Hi! I am using 8.10 and facing issue with network configuration. Everytime I reboot i need to specify my static IP again. What is the solution ?
[04:15] <phoenixz> wheelie207: Ubuntu 9.04?
[04:15] <wheelie207> yes
[04:16] <Frijolie> my laptop sits idle and the system monitor says that both of my CPUs are ~50%
[04:16] <phoenixz> wheelie207: ow, in that case, never mind.. this was only about intel GPU :_
[04:16] <Frijolie> how do you tell what's sucking up most of my clock cycles?
[04:16] <phoenixz> Frijolie: system monitor, or in a text console, try "top"
[04:16] <phoenixz> god, Im fast today
[04:16] <Madpilot> Frijolie, click the system monitor, it'll give you a window with app list
[04:16] <wheelie207> I used system monitor or some other program to see what the system is doing..
[04:16] <Frijolie> phoenixz, in the processes tab the most that it says is 7% and it's nautilus
[04:17] <rkitect> phoenixz: ffr; unplugging the drive, booting, then replugging the drive in (ide) after another boot brought the drive back
[04:17] <Barridus> Frijolie, in my experience, gnome's system monitor uses a bunch in and of itself.  try top, or preferrably atop
[04:17] <wheelie207> you can see whats running when using top..
[04:17] <Alex_21> Hi, I get the following: "songbird: error while loading shared libraries: libjemalloc.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" when loading Songbird. What can I do?
[04:17] <Frijolie> it saying Xorg and gnome-system-mo are taking 50%
[04:17] <Alex_21> Please
[04:17] <phoenixz> rkitect: might be a kernel borkup on drive status... specially if you disconnected a mounted drive, heard that more.. unfortunately, a reboot is then requiered
[04:17] <Roasted> I'm seeing here Ubuntu is using two ways to add up the amount of data I'm using. System monitor uses GiB. Properties of a hard drive uses GB. Properties of my home directory says 171.4 GB while system monitor of the same disk says 184.1 GiB. Which one is more accurate to go by?
[04:17] <cellofellow> I know my ~/.Private directory passphrase, but I need to set up my ecryptfs configuration with it.
[04:18] <Frijolie> and that's idle! what about when I'm doing encoding or something. My lappy runs really hot...so hot i'm afraid
[04:18] <phoenixz> Roasted: GiB should be factors of 1024, GB 1000..
[04:18] <Barridus> Frijolie, gnome-system-monitor?  use "top" or "atop" as a system monitor instead.
[04:18] <arand> wheelie207: doc|laptop: two options you could try which are fairly simple is either adding the jaunty-proposed repository and installing the "not-yet-fully-tested" patch which exists, or you could look at this pagehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/IntelPerformance particularly at the end, the description on how to change back to intrepid driver...
[04:18] <phoenixz> Roasted: both should be equally acurrate
[04:18] <rkitect> phoenixz: it almost acted like it didn't unmount when i halted earlier and couldn't reinitialize it
[04:18] <Frijolie> yeah, top says Xorg ~42%
[04:18] <rkitect> phoenixz: either way, scare is over, back to getting it to automount
[04:19] <phoenixz> rkitect: yeah, kernel frackup
[04:19] <rkitect> phoenixz: thanks again
[04:19] <Frijolie> only thing I got open is a terminal window and xchat
[04:19] <Roasted> phoenixz - is there any way to change either style so I can have them BOTH be GB or GiB?
[04:19] <wheelie207> I run 2 gigs of mem on my system..
[04:19] <Frijolie> those don't even register a %, Xorg supposed to be that big of a hog?
[04:19] <phoenixz> Frijolie: oh boy.. using intel GPU?
[04:19] <Frijolie> yes
[04:19] <doc|laptop> phoenixz: thanks, have bookmarked it. Have to run now so will take a look later.
[04:19] <Frijolie> phoenixz, yes
[04:20] <wheelie207> I don't remember the app that give a detail view of the system..
[04:20] <phoenixz> Frijolie: no, X is a nice lean mean machine.. problem is that 9.04 has some borked up intel GPU driverss
[04:20] <Alex_21> Does anyone know why I get "songbird: error while loading shared libraries: libjemalloc.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" when running Songbird?
[04:20] <Alex_21> Please
[04:20] <phoenixz> arand: could you send the same suggestion about intel GPU to Frijolie?
[04:20] <S_A> Hi! Any suggestions to the issue I asked ?
[04:20] <wheelie207> are you using propriety drivers or open source
[04:20] <phoenixz> Alex_21: sounds like a missing library file.. how did you install the thing?
[04:21] <phoenixz> S_A: My long term memory holds about 15 lines.. your question was from way before that!
[04:21] <arand> Frijolie: two options you could try which are fairly simple is either adding the jaunty-proposed repository and installing the not-yet-fully-tested patch which exists, or you could look at this pagehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/IntelPerformance particularly at the end, the description on how to change back to intrepid driver...
[04:21] <S_A> Hi! I am using 8.10 and facing issue with network configuration. Everytime I reboot i need to specify my static IP again. What is the solution ?
[04:21] <Alex_21> I made my own .deb file
[04:22] <Alex_21> There is none for my archetecture
[04:22] <S_A> Network Manager always berings back to DHCP configuration on reboots
[04:22] <Frijolie> phoenixz, are they going to get those "borked" Intel drivers fixed shortly?
[04:22] <S_A> brings*
[04:22] <Naynay> Got a question:- Why does mounting an iso in Ubuntu (using a right click on an iso file) result in a mounted directory full of filenames with weird ;1 extensions?
[04:22] <phoenixz> Alex_21: there you go.. :) check for the missing library file, you will find that its.. eh.. missing.. :) Then try to see why its expected there and who / what should have put it there..
[04:22]  * arand thinks something like that should be added as !intel ...
[04:23] <phoenixz> Frijolie: Its a work in progress afaik.. I resolved it myself with switching to a 2.6.30 kernel (you are at 2.6.28 atm)
[04:23] <S_A> phoenixz: SOS! 15 lines will go away soon :)
[04:23] <phoenixz> arand: AMEN!
[04:23] <Alex_21> Where do I locate the file?
[04:23] <Alex_21> I've never packaged anything before
[04:23] <xy|ox> S_A, open network manager config tool, or just edit /etc/network/interfaces
[04:23] <vallim> some are from Brasil?
[04:23] <Frijolie> phoenixz, i followed Intel Performance tutorial in the forums and got Compiz working again
[04:23] <phoenixz> S_A: network manager.. you could specify it manually in /etc/network/interfaces
[04:23] <Frijolie> phoenixz, got some rc kernel or something
[04:23] <putra19> bandung
[04:23] <phoenixz> !br | vallim:
[04:23] <BiosElement> Hmm, somehow after purging apache and installing lighthttpd my root folder became writable. What do I have to do to fix this?
[04:24] <phoenixz> vallim: but you're very welcome here in english! :)
[04:24] <S_A> phoenixz: I did that but /etc/resolv.conf was clear in morning
[04:24] <arand> Frijolie: one patch ( I don't know if it is *the patch*) is in the proposed updates atm, I'm not sure why it's not been pushed out to regular updates though...
[04:24] <S_A> phoenixz: although I specified manually. it again cleared on reboot.
[04:25] <S_A> phoenixz: I am sure this must be a common problem for 8.10.
[04:25] <phoenixz> S_A: if you modify that file, you're going manual.. make sure you have a backup of that file when using DHCP, then disable network manager (make sure it does not start up again) and modify the etc/network/interfaces file
[04:25] <Alex_21> Where do I find the library to fix "songbird: error while loading shared libraries: libjemalloc.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"? Please
[04:25] <vallim> phoenixz, where are you from?
[04:25] <Frijolie> arand, phoenixz: i followed this tutorial http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582&highlight=Intel
[04:25] <phoenixz> vallim: Mexico.. well, Holland actually but living in Mexico
[04:26] <Frijolie> arand, phoeixz: it got Comiz working again but I've noticed that it's eating my CPU up
[04:26] <Alex_21> Please!
[04:26] <Barridus> Frijolie, compiz does use more cpu
[04:26] <phoenixz> Alex_21: patience please, only have 3 hands to work with!
[04:27] <Frijolie> Barridus, yeah but 50% of core 2 duos?
[04:27] <phoenixz> Frijolie: Barridus: but not that much, thats not normal
[04:27] <arand> Alex_21: SOngbird is kind of unsupported on ubuntu so far, and I'm afraid I don't have any experience with it either..
[04:27] <Naynay> I want to put a CD in my computer and produce an iso from it. What's the easiest (preferably GUI method) of doing this?
[04:27] <phoenixz> arand: Frijolie: let me try to find that page again..
[04:27] <Barridus> idk what's "normal" for gnome
[04:27] <phoenixz> Alex_21: you might want to try #linux
[04:28] <vallim> phoenixz: mexico? next to Brazil.....do you work with Linux?!
[04:28] <phoenixz> Barridus: I've worked with Fedora 5 on a 32 MB geforce4 graphics card, celeron 2.66GHz and compiz almost never passed 5-10%
[04:28] <Alex_21> Ok
[04:28] <Alex_21> I'll do that
[04:28] <Alex_21> Thanks for your help
[04:28] <Alex_21> Thanks for your helpGood night
[04:28] <BiosElement> Somehow my root "/" folder became writable. What do I have to do to fix this?
[04:28] <phoenixz> vallim: I suppose its more or less next to brazil, ignoring some 10 other countries, and I suppose I work with linux too yeah :)
[04:29] <phoenixz> BiosElement: writable by who?
[04:29] <Barridus> phoenixz, hehe you're a trooper, compiz was borked to hell on my geforce4, was a pain to fix XD
[04:29] <BiosElement> phoenixz: all. Or so said the warning. I went and my non-root account can make/delete files there but it wasn't recursive thankfully.
[04:30] <Frijolie> phoenixz, alright, shall I roll everything back? I have proposed repos selected...
[04:30] <Barridus> BiosElement, is this in terminal or gnome
[04:30] <phoenixz> Barridus: hell, I had that machine with 5 geforce 4 cards, running 5x X for 5 independent users with compiz effects, giving one computer to 5 people.. too bad that project went to frack :'(
[04:30] <BiosElement> Barridus, Gnome but I can test via terminal if you'd like.
[04:31] <sil3nt|warri0r> hi folks
[04:31] <phoenixz> BiosElement: maybe its the webservers / that its talking about ? I doubt your systems / is writable.. in any case, for apache try #apache, dunno if lighthttp has a channel here but it should be easy to find :)
[04:31] <phoenixz> !hi | sil3nt|warri0r
[04:31] <Barridus> BiosElement, i just had an idea but it's offbase if it's in gnome too
[04:31] <sil3nt|warri0r> thx frnds
[04:32] <phoenixz> Frijolie: I'm trying to find the page again that I applied
[04:32] <phoenixz> sil3nt|warri0r: you have a question?
[04:32] <sil3nt|warri0r> i have dell studio, and ubuntu jus works like a rocket in it
[04:32] <Frijolie> phoenixz, alright...no hurry
[04:32] <sil3nt|warri0r> except fingerprint logon
[04:32] <arand> Frijolie: you might want to only upgrade the xserver-video-intel package, along with dependencies, and then disable proposed, unless you want to have proposed patches for your whole system
[04:32] <Barridus> Frijolie, what was gnome's cpu usage with compiz on before these "fixes" you did?
[04:32] <burbuja> good night
[04:32] <phoenixz> Frijolie: duh, right under my face.. you already gave me the URL! :) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582&highlight=Intel
[04:32] <kattollikisd> i have a folder with to many .deb files that i would like to install the all, is there is a command that install all that package of that folder?
[04:33] <sil3nt|warri0r> so, is there anything which can configur my fingerprint device
[04:33] <phoenixz> Frijolie:  dunno which of the 4 solutions you tried, but I tried the one with kernel 2.6.30 and it works like a charm for me.. NO GUARANTEES THOUGH!
[04:33] <Frijolie> Barridus, I never checked them until I started noticing that my laptop began running hot
[04:33] <vallim> I have a friend did exchange for Mexico.......he liked the country very.....
[04:33] <Barridus> Frijolie, could be a poorly configured driver causing it
[04:33] <phoenixz> sil3nt|warri0r: can't help you there but if you find anything (there should be actually), please let me know, sounds interresting
[04:33] <phoenixz> arand: could you add this URL to !intel maybe? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582&highlight=Intel
[04:34] <Frijolie> phoenixz, yeah that's the one that I tried and upgraded to the .30rc kernel that got Compiz working again but that's also when my lappy began to run hot
[04:34] <arand> kattollikisd: "dpkg -i *" I think, although if they have dependencies on each other it might not be that easy...
[04:34] <sil3nt|warri0r> Frijolie, my hdd temp is 40C and core0=35,core1=40C
[04:34] <phoenixz> arand: thats the page that put out the fire for me and it has multiple solutions anyway
[04:34] <arand> phoenixz: oh, I've got no power over the bots :)
[04:34] <sil3nt|warri0r> phoenixz, sure :)
[04:34] <phoenixz> Frijolie: ups..
[04:34] <Frijolie> sil3nt|warri0r, I don't know the exact temp...just noticed that my keyboard is hot to the touch and the CPU fan is running full speed all the time
[04:34] <phoenixz> Who is in charge of the bots here?
[04:35] <Barridus> skynet :(
[04:35] <phoenixz> Barridus: No more TV for you :)
[04:35] <Madpilot> phoenixz, a number of people have different levels of access - found a bug?
[04:35] <wheelie207> he he
[04:35] <Frijolie> Barridus, that comes out Friday doesn't it?
[04:35] <sil3nt|warri0r> Frijolie: which lappy ?
[04:35] <Barridus> Frijolie, soon i think, i lost track
[04:35] <Madpilot> movies over on #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[04:35] <Frijolie> sil3nt|warri0r, Toshiba Satellite
[04:35] <phoenixz> Madpilot: actually.. I'd like to propose somehting.. add http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582&highlight=Intel to !intel
[04:36] <Frijolie> Barridus, yeah I'm excited
[04:36] <arand> Madpilot: possibly https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/IntelPerformance as well
[04:36] <phoenixz> Madpilot: you got bot control? thing is, that page has quite some good info on the intel GPU problem of 9.04
[04:36] <P4R41> how can camerorama find and use the webcam, while nothing else can even detect it...argh
[04:36] <phoenixz> Madpilot: what arand says..
[04:37] <Madpilot> phoenixz, I can create and edit !tells, at least
[04:37] <sil3nt|warri0r> because of this temp my hdd stoped working, gave smart error. contacted dell. got a new hdd, this time it was hitachi
[04:37] <phoenixz> !tells
[04:37] <Rizrn> anyone had sucess running InstantAction browser based games?
[04:37] <Madpilot> there doesn't seem to be an !intel tell at the moment
[04:37] <MK13> does anybody else here have two entries for "remote desktop viewer" in their menu editor? For some reason I have two, one checked and one unchecked.
[04:37] <phoenixz> Madpilot: in that case, could you add an !intel maybe? I've seen like 5 people in 5 minutes with intel driver problems
[04:37] <ziroday> Madpilot: perhaps !intelregressions
[04:37] <vallim> phoenixz, do you know some good book for Linux? I'm getting started with Linux
[04:37] <phoenixz> and if there are ubuntu developers here.. please.. intel driver problems.. fix? fast? furious?!
[04:38] <Flannel> vallim: help.ubuntu.com
[04:38] <phoenixz> vallim: no books, just internet and trying stuff, trust me, works lots faster and better
[04:38] <nomasteryoda> phoenixz, very true
[04:38] <Barridus> vallim, yeah the web > books for learning linux
[04:38] <Madpilot> phoenixz, I've heard it's a known issue for 9.04 - I've finally got a fully supported ATI myself. I'll start an !intel one
[04:38] <phoenixz> vallim: And IRC too :)
[04:38] <nomasteryoda> phoenixz, on the Intel problem
[04:38] <phoenixz> Madpilot: well, i think !intel would be a bit easier, nobody is going to guess !intelregressions or something like that.. :)
[04:38] <Madpilot> vallim, the Official Ubuntu Book is pretty good, and there's a new edition coming out for 9.04 shortly
[04:39] <phoenixz> nomasteryoda: yeah?
[04:39] <nomasteryoda> oh the comment on the intel video problems
[04:39] <Madpilot> phoenixz, easy enough to alias tells together, for anyone who guesses !intelregressions :)
[04:39] <phoenixz> vallim:  I can recommend you just to take one part, a program, a command whatever, and study that.. and grow in it bit  by bit
[04:39] <phoenixz> vallim: use google!
[04:39] <mavann> hey folks had a question I have a Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00GHz with 7875 MB Memory DDR3 with two nvidia 260 evga cards and evga board and everytime I transfer from one sata drive to another large file seems like ubuntu just stalls is there something I need to configure and change?
[04:39] <phoenixz> Madpilot: ah, it would work with alias?
[04:40] <hhh> I am unable to read my inbox,sent mail of my gmail account.my internet is connected anyone please help me
[04:40] <phoenixz> Madpilot: I mean.. you can <tab> it to the entire name?
[04:40] <panfist> where would gnome, window manager, window decorator, and applications like that log messages?
[04:40] <ziroday> hhh: can you access other websites?
[04:40] <mavann> both seagate drive 7200 RPM ones is 1.5 TB and the other 1.0 TB
[04:40] <ziroday> panfist: what type of messages?
[04:40] <phoenixz> hhh: uuuh, no google experts here :) but, can you open other pages?
[04:40] <hhh> ziroday:yes
[04:40] <mysticdarkhack> hello and can someone please tell me there the ubuntu default blue yelp icons located at?
[04:40] <Madpilot> phoenixz, no, no tab complete for bot tells, sorry
[04:40] <mysticdarkhack> ty
[04:40] <ziroday> hhh: just not gmail?
[04:40] <panfist> i think my window decorator and possibly other desktop components crash when i reboot
[04:40] <panfist> i am trying to figure out why
[04:41] <jyg_> check this out...  cd /usr/lib; ls -l *flash*  => "rw-r--r-- 1 root root 10131640 2009-05-20 00:07 libflashplayer.so" ... (still i /usr/lib)  .... ls -l libflashplayer.so => "ls: cannot access libflashplayer.so: No such file or directory"
[04:41] <hhh> ziroday:i am unable to open and read my gmail sent mails,drafts,inbox
[04:41] <phoenixz> Madpilot: then it would be a bit hard, don't you think? anyway, you're the tells boss, not me, Im just tellings whats betters.. :)
[04:41] <mysticdarkhack> anyone?
[04:41] <ziroday> hhh: try clear your firefox cache
[04:41] <vallim> phoenixz: all right.....I'm going follow your advice...
[04:41] <hhh> ziroday: how to clear my firfox cache please help me
[04:42] <jyg_> ahaha nevermind...
[04:42] <ziroday> hhh: press ctrl+shift+del in firefox
[04:42] <phoenixz> vallim: not for lazyness, I'm just telling you this because this is how I leart it.. I see a problem, or something I dont understand, and I start looking it up on google, etc.. teaches you problem solving which is very important
[04:42] <Madpilot> ubottu, intel | phoenixz
[04:42] <hhh> ziroday:after that what should i do.how to check whether it is cleared or not
[04:42] <phoenixz> Madpilot: wohoo! :)
[04:43] <phoenixz> Madpilot: My first tells! more or less..
[04:43] <ziroday> hhh: well a dialog box will appear, tick the cache box, hit okay and then try to access gmail again
[04:43] <hhh> ziroday:i did not get any dialog box.
[04:44] <Madpilot> phoenixz, after having issues with ATI cards on and off in previous Ubuntu releases, I'm just somewhat amused that my card works perfectly with Free drivers now, and Intel users have issues...
[04:44] <ziroday> hhh: in firefox go to Tools > Clear Private Data, do you get a dialog box?
[04:44] <hhh> ziroday:yes now what should i do
[04:44] <ziroday> hhh: tick the Cache and Cookies option, and then hit okay
[04:45] <panfist> i can enable normal and extra visual effects and experience them just fine, but whenever I reboot it resets to none and other parts of my desktop environment don't come up unless i explicitly start them
[04:45] <phoenixz> Madpilot: its just intel who in a mood of critical insanety decided to remove that which works for this which is better, but doesn't work yet..
[04:45] <hhh> ziroday:ok now i should restart my gmail account ?
[04:46] <phoenixz> Madpilot: actually, if you ask me, you even might add a notion about this problem in the welcome messages of the channel..
[04:46] <vallim> phoenixz: I agree with you...I love google. how long do you use Linux?
[04:46] <phoenixz> When I found the problem myself, I was in this channel too (2 weeks ago) for hours, with like 10 other people, trying to find what the hell was wrong
[04:47] <pwasek08> Where can i find a good howto guide for postfix
[04:47] <phoenixz> vallim: some... ehh.. when was redhat 9? 5-6 years or something?
[04:47] <oOarthurOo> I can't change the cpu speed using "sudo echo ondemand > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor" ... it still tells me permission denied
[04:47] <oOarthurOo> what happened to my sudo powers?
[04:47] <mavann> anyone know why moving large files from hd to another would lag out Ubuntu 9.04 jaunty?
[04:47] <phoenixz> pwasek08: google for "howto guide postfix" I think..
[04:47] <hhh> ziroday:thank you,now its working,can u tell me how to uninstall netbeans ?
[04:47] <phoenixz> oOarthurOo: kryptonite..
[04:47] <CoJaBo-Aztec> lol
[04:47] <oOarthurOo> more like ubunewbite
[04:48] <ziroday> hhh: sudo apt-get remove netbeans ?
[04:48] <phoenixz> mavann: as in, make the system non responsive?
[04:48] <storbeck_> woot, I finally got my laptop to boot up on a livecd
[04:48] <ziroday> oOarthurOo: sudo and > don't play nice. One sec
[04:48] <Manelvallet> is this only for linux, or macs are allowed?
[04:48] <sil3nt|warri0r> phoenixz: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThinkFinger
[04:48] <mavann> yes phoenixz
[04:48] <phoenixz> mavann: there'se an interresting question.. I was moving an svk repository, like 200.000 small files.. immediately, the system was non responsivev.. even the mouse went haywire..
[04:48] <Madpilot> phoenixz, not sure it's so widespread as to require adding to /topic or the welcome message, really. the new tell will help a lot, though.
[04:48] <vallim> I don't know....hehehehe.......did use already
[04:48] <storbeck_> Manelvallet: I don't even use Ubuntu :)
[04:48] <vallim> ops.....sorry
[04:49] <phoenixz> Madpilot: it will! At least we have something to quickly refer to..
[04:49] <mavann> happens often
[04:49] <vallim> have you been use Debian?
[04:49] <Manelvallet> storebeck neither  do I
[04:49] <mavann> when I am moving pictures or large movie files
[04:49] <phoenixz> vallim: no, redhat, fedora and ubuntu, though debian should be very similar since ubuntu stems from it
[04:50] <coreyman> what's the command so i can view my network settings IE: ip address
[04:50] <arand> Manelvallet: if you stray to far from ubuntu-related stuff you might get warned, but otherwise, feel at home :)
[04:50] <ziroday> oOarthurOo: do sudo -i to get to a root shell and then run that command
[04:50] <hhh> ziroday:thank you
[04:50] <Manelvallet> arand is a mac ubuntu related?
[04:50] <ziroday> coreyman: ifconfig
[04:51] <phoenixz> mavann: can't tell you, really what could cause it.. i've seen it myself as well.. if you find out, please do let me know
[04:51]  * Manelvallet uses a mac
[04:51] <Madpilot> Manelvallet, strictly speaking, #ubuntu is for tech support for Ubuntu only. #ubuntu-offtopic for chat.
[04:51] <coreyman> ziroday thx
[04:51] <eross> anyone elses' sound not working with jaunty?
[04:51] <mavann> I have checked to see if anything else is taking resources at the time but nothing else is running
[04:51] <oOarthurOo> thanks ziroday that's the answer. echo performance | sudo tee -a /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor works. Yours would probably work too, but I want to avoid violating too many ubuntu rules of good behaviour :)
[04:51] <storbeck_> eross: no
[04:51] <eross> movie player shows the volume moving but i can't get any audio
[04:51] <ziroday> oOarthurOo: heh
[04:52] <storbeck_> eross: check it out in alsamixer, make sure nothing is 'MM'
[04:52] <mavann> it did not happen with intrepid though only with jaunty
[04:52] <panfist> why must i re-enable normal visual effects each time i log in
[04:52] <Manelvallet> üßüñ†ü
[04:52] <Manelvallet> I have a question, does linux use ubuntu?
[04:53] <ejv> yes it does :p
[04:53] <eross> PCM is blanked out, wont let me adjust it
[04:53] <Manelvallet> and mac?
[04:53] <Madpilot> no, but ubuntu uses linux. nice unicode characters, btw.
[04:53] <vallim> I understood.....I'm liking of Linux....I'm thinking family and with good usability.....
[04:53] <storbeck_> eross: Hmm, well sounds like that's where the problem is
[04:53] <felix_> hi. i need to use apt with chroot in order to solve a dependance conflict in a distro that im making. i need help creating the executable link to make this command work::: "chroot /builder/srv/livecd/chroot-i386 /whatever/apt-get -i HOME=/root TERM=${TERM} PATH=/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin DEBIAN_PRIORITY=critical
[04:54] <vallim> phoenixz:I understood.....I'm liking of Linux....I'm thinking family and with good usability.....
[04:54] <phoenixz> vallim: Just install it, it will easily fit right next to your windows
[04:55] <vallim> is red hat very hard?
[04:55] <storbeck_> hard is a relative word
[04:55] <mavann> found this link for sound solution in jaunty for whoever was needing it http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1130384.html
[04:55] <nomasteryoda> vallim, its an off-topic discussion...
[04:56] <vallim> phoenixz: Red har is very difficult to use?
[04:56] <phoenixz> vallim: redhat right now is enterprise version.. fedora is the open source version of redhat,
[04:56] <nomasteryoda> !off-topic
[04:56] <phoenixz> nomasteryoda: yeah yeah, easy on him, its just a single question..
[04:56] <nomasteryoda> ya just diverting...
[04:57] <nomasteryoda> channel is kinda quiet tonight anyways
[04:57] <phoenixz> nomasteryoda: You're just worried he might stray off the path of ubuntu ;)
[04:57] <nomasteryoda> lol
[04:57] <felix_> hi. i need to use apt with chroot in order to solve a dependance conflict in a distro that im making. i need help creating the executable link to make this command work::: "chroot /builder/srv/livecd/chroot-i386 /whatever/apt-get -i HOME=/root TERM=${TERM} PATH=/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin DEBIAN_PRIORITY=critical
[04:57] <Markov> hey. i'm trying to access my ubuntu machine from a mac via samba. it shows up under shares on the mac but I cannot connect. I haven't done any sort of configuration on the ubuntu side. what do i need to do?
[04:57] <vallim> nomasteryoda: I'm new in the IRC......there is specific topics for discussion?
[04:57] <nomasteryoda> phoenixz, i work with redhat every day for my job... but ubuntu is home
[04:57] <coreyman> You guys all actually use gnome? kde is so pretty.
[04:57]  * CoJaBo-Aztec uses kde
[04:57] <phoenixz> coreyman: Im a KDE man. Im cheating tonight.. :)
[04:58] <nomasteryoda> vallim, oh ya... lots of channels, #ubuntu-offtopic being one of them
[04:58] <phoenixz> kde4 is be-au-ti-ful...
[04:58] <Lint01> coreyman: kde is unusable
[04:58] <coreyman> >.>
[04:58] <nomasteryoda> irc's been around for ages... like jam, it lasts for ages
[04:58] <phoenixz> vallim: it depends on what you want to discuss.. for ubuntu technical problems, you can talk here..
[04:58] <phoenixz> !br | vallim
[04:58] <Madpilot> coreyman, #kubuntu for you KDE addicts, plz :)
[04:58] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Some of the tools with Kubuntu (kpackagekit and the network manager) are outright terrible.
[04:58] <whatvn> phoenixz: but It takes much resource: cpu, ram. low performance
[04:59] <phoenixz> if you want  to talk to brazilian people, you can go there ^^^
[04:59] <coreyman> madpilot i was just there, noone chatting.
[04:59] <ada2358> 23:55 <+wkdpstr> yey http://www.speedtest.net/result/478203082.png my wifi doesnt suck atm
[04:59] <phoenixz> Lint01: When was the last time you saw KDE4? a year ago? its very nice these days..
[04:59] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Just wish Kubuntu had kept Adept :/
[05:00] <coreyman> You don't use apt-get?
[05:00] <phoenixz> whatvn: might take a bit more ram, dunno honestly, but more CPU? I dont notice it! KDE is still under development, but will once again be more usable than gnome.. where gnome has 2 buttons, KDE will give me lots more options..
[05:00] <schambers2> how can I turn on the display to show me the x,y coordinates of the window im dragging and size of the window?
[05:00] <panfist> ok, i'm having an issue with visual effects resetting to none when i reboot. after some searching, i found compiz-check, which says I'm ok for everything...compiz-check says "texture_from_pixmap ok" and compiz --replace says "checking for texture_from_pixmap: not present" <-- why would this happen
[05:00] <phoenixz> gnome is perfect for beginners or people who like it simple.. I like it more.. with more options
[05:00] <vallim> I prefer to use this topics for to practice my english.....do you understand me?!
[05:01] <phoenixz> CoJaBo-Aztec: yeah, thast a whole other discussion Im affraid, though since they kicked adept (and tried like 4 other package managers) I've gotten a whole lot better with apt-get :)
[05:01] <vallim> here in Brazil is hard practice for me practice my English
[05:01] <cybertronic> I am having issues with Ubuntu NBR
[05:01] <phoenixz> vallim: we would not be responding if we didnt understand ya :)
[05:02] <cybertronic> Gnome gui doesnt seem to load fully
[05:02] <CoJaBo-Aztec> phoenixz: Yeah I see... but whyd they have to replace it with one so buggy? o_O
[05:02] <phoenixz> !pm | coreyman
[05:02] <whatvn> phoenixz: and with Linux you're going to use button, aren't you?
[05:03] <phoenixz> whatvn: excuseme? I dont understand
[05:03] <coreyman> phoenixz it wasn't a question
[05:03] <coreyman> it was offtopic
[05:03] <vallim> phoenixz: why?
[05:03] <phoenixz> coreyman: my bad.. in any case, I dont get... hard.. from KDE...
[05:03] <whatvn> phoenixz: forget it
[05:04] <coreyman> phoenixz and you didn't understand it >.>
[05:04] <phoenixz> I think I actually did :)
[05:04] <coreyman> People think they are hardcore for using gnome rather than having a great looking kde interface.
[05:05] <factotum> just keybind the snot out of everything
[05:05] <cybertronic> Anyone else having issues with Ubuntu NBR loading the gui? Its fine when I initially install it but when I reboot the taskbars are missing just a desktop background
[05:05] <phoenixz> coreyman: hardcore for not having the options they want to have? bwah.. I just take KDE which by now already has more options than gnome, and we're just at 4.2 yet.. wait for 4.5 :)
[05:05] <phoenixz> factotum: I just actually tried to imagine that.. :D
[05:05]  * arand thinks kde is kind of fugly, and corny...
[05:06] <coreyman> yea phoenixz, they should just go pure Terminal and be real hard core, and counterproductive since you wont get anything done without a GUI
[05:06] <CoJaBo-Aztec> lol
[05:06] <phoenixz> arand: everybody to its own :) I'd recommend gnome to my mom and dad.. actually, I did! thhough kde4.2 is so nice, it actually might be somehting I'd recommend today..
[05:06] <factotum> haha
[05:06] <oddity> Hi, I installed WICD, but now can't connect to a wireless network.  Does anyone know the name of the package of the default network managers?
[05:07] <factotum> until recenty I just went to openbox and mc, could never make up my mind between gnome and kde
[05:07] <phoenixz> coreyman: If you'd like..  :)  look, you can fight about it all night but, if you like gnome, go ahead and use it, I won't complain.. Im not hardcore, I just like to have a few more options..
[05:07] <coreyman> oddity network-manager-gnome
[05:07] <oddity> coreyman: Thanks a ton!
[05:08] <SorenUbuntu> I have an HDD with 2 partitions. XP is on the first. When I install ubuntu on the second partition of the HDD drive, is there a way to have XP the default booting OS/?
[05:08] <coreyman> phoenixz i'm just waiting for my upgrade to the new kde to finish downloading, i got it on my laptop already but my desktop is lacking.
[05:08] <lyrae> whats an app that shows my webcam
[05:08] <CoJaBo-Aztec> lyrae: VLC does.
[05:08] <felix_> SorenUbuntu, download kgrub editor and tick the option
[05:08] <lyrae> CoJaBo-Aztec: thank you
[05:09] <phoenixz> coreyman: and on getting things done with a terminal.. Im a sysadmin at a datacenter... Me and my fellow windows coworkers had to reconfigure dns settings for a whole lot of servers.. 5 windows sysadmins vs me, and I had 2x more servers then they had.. 30 seconds later I was asking them how things were going :)  they had not even started yet..
[05:09]  * phoenixz loves command line, yes he does..
[05:09] <SorenUbuntu> felix, is that before I install ubuntu?
[05:09] <vallim> phoenixz: do you use some dock? like avant, cairo
[05:09] <coreyman> phoenixz i meant for a production environment.
[05:10] <phoenixz> vallim: dock? I use KDE.. dont know much about docks :)
[05:10] <arand> SorenUbuntu: or you could edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst file manually, setting the default number to the one that's appropriate...
[05:10] <phoenixz> coreyman: oh yes I know, sillybuns!
[05:10] <marcus_aurelius> does anyone use songbird?
[05:10] <SorenUbuntu> arand: I am very new to ubuntu, IDK how
[05:10] <coreyman> phoenixz they were windows sys admins? like... microsoft~! oh lawd
[05:10] <felix_> SorenUbuntu, , after succesfully installed ubuntu ;) its a gui to configure grub. you can set up what system boot by default, and reduce the time if you want it to boot faster
[05:10] <vallim> don't you like of visual MacOS? hheeheh
[05:11] <chaorain> marcus_aurelius, I tried it once or twice. Can I help?
[05:11] <andrey_> а по русски
[05:12] <caverdude> hello
[05:12] <lyrae> CoJaBo-Aztec: where in VLC? looks like an audio player
[05:12] <SorenUbuntu> felix, ok, ty............... the ubuntu install on the 2nd partition seems very easy................is there any way for me to screw it up?
[05:12] <marcus_aurelius> chaorain, i'm dual-booting ubuntu and winxp, i tried to import my itunes library, which it did quite well, but it couldn't find any files because everything was in C:\Documents and Setttings\...
[05:12] <caverdude> I need to install zoneminder www.zoneminder.com but I did sudo apt-get install zoneminder  ... packages not found.. is there a way I must add some repository?
[05:12] <lyrae> CoJaBo-Aztec: nevermind, got it
[05:13] <caverdude> anyone here installed zoneminder on ubunto?
[05:13] <S_A> Hi! I remove dnetwork manager from my interpid because Network Manager was not working fine for static IP. Now I configured manually. IP address is working fine now but not dns. although entry in /etc/resolv.conf is fine
[05:13] <S_A> any hints ?
[05:13] <Rizrn> what browser yeilds the best java perfomance in Jaunty?
[05:13] <chaorain> marcus_aurelius, Dual boot or Wubi?
[05:13] <cached> I have a certain cron job set up for 5 */12 * * *, but it didn't execute at 0:05. What am I doing wrong?
[05:14] <chaorain> marcus_aurelius, Close but BIG difference
[05:14] <SorenUbuntu> ubuntu install on the 2nd partition seems very easy................is there any way for me to screw it up?
[05:14] <marcus_aurelius> what's a wubi?  long time unix user/admin, only proficient with linux
[05:14] <SandGorgon> i'm nit getting sound in ubuntu  ... though im able to play sound tests in "Preferences"
[05:14] <vallim> phoenixz: what the correct size of swap memory?
[05:14] <felix_> SorenUbuntu, no one if you dont touch the windows partition. you could install ubuntu in the same disk, but you would need to resize partitions and so. in other drive you can use it plenty, but i suggest you setting up a swap partition if you know
[05:14] <she_dyed> S_A you have the DNS fiven to you by your ISP
[05:14] <she_dyed> given*
[05:15] <arand> !wubi | marcus_aurelius
[05:15] <S_A> she_dyed: Yes! it is working fine in my otehr system
[05:15] <Rizrn> Is a swap file recommended for Jaunty?
[05:15] <chaorain> marcus_aurelius, WUBI = Windows Ubuntu Instaler
[05:15] <phoenixz> vallim: usually 1.5 x your RAM memory, but not larger than 4GB.. In any case, if you use the ubuntu installer auto partitioner, it will create the swap for you
[05:15] <Psy-Krow> question: anyone remember the file you have to edit to change the default sound setup from trying to use 6 ports when there's only 3?
[05:15] <joff> no
[05:15] <she_dyed> S_A whats happening now, you're not getting 'the outside world'
[05:16] <joff> internet
[05:16] <SorenUbuntu> when I istalled XP I set up 110GB for XP and 10GB for ubuntu
[05:16] <S_A> she_dyed: you are right
[05:16] <marcus_aurelius> definitely not wubi, ubuntu has it's own partitions
[05:16] <phoenixz> wubi.. that sounds like a tribble..  damn wubis!
[05:16] <joff> hi
[05:16] <CoJaBo-Aztec> How is it that an 11-line HTML page can bring down the entire OS? o_O
[05:16] <she_dyed> S_A maybe restart the network is all thats needed?
[05:16] <chaorain> marcus_aurelius, so if you are experienced I assume you have ntgs-3g and the drive mounted properly right?
[05:16] <phoenixz> CoJaBo-Aztec: show me the page!
[05:16] <phoenixz> CoJaBo-Aztec: the OS is probably windows?
[05:16] <S_A> she_dyed: I rebooted PC as well. but still no success
[05:17] <SorenUbuntu> felix_, when I istalled XP I set up 110GB for XP and 10GB for ubuntu, is that what you mean?
[05:17] <CoJaBo-Aztec> phoenixz: Kubuntu Jaunty, page viewed in Firefox.
[05:17] <marcus_aurelius> yes, mounted on /media/OS, OS is equiv to C:\ under winxp
[05:17] <coreyman> How do I type in the location of a networked folder into Dolphin? like //192.168.50.3/windows/ ?
[05:17] <phoenixz> CoJaBo-Aztec: show me that page! want to see :D
[05:17] <SandGorgon> is there anything that I can debug to see why sound is not playing....i can also hear startup sound
[05:17] <felix_> SorenUbuntu, how did you installed ubuntu? wubi or ubiquity?
[05:17] <she_dyed> S_A server not found ? 'Try Again' is what you get?
[05:17] <vallim> all right....have you been compiler your kernel already?
[05:17] <CoJaBo-Aztec> phoenixz: (WinXP only takes 11 bytes of HTML to BSOD)
[05:17] <vallim> phoenixz: all right....have you been compiler your kernel already?
[05:17] <junke> Hey
[05:18] <junke> SAludos
[05:18] <junke> Alguien Habla Español??
[05:18] <phoenixz> CoJaBo-Aztec: and an HTML page having firefox bringing down entire kubuntu? That I don't believe, sorry..
[05:18] <junke> Spanish??
[05:18] <phoenixz> CoJaBo-Aztec: unless you ran it under root maybe
[05:18] <Deadpool> guys.. there doesnt seem to be wine-doors for jaunty yet or is there?
[05:18] <chaorain> marcus_aurelius, ok let me check some things with my install
[05:18] <S_A> she_dyed: If i do ping www.google.com. it says unknown host
[05:18] <she_dyed> S_A pastebin the outputs of ifconfig amd  route commands
[05:18] <felix_> junke, vete a #ubuntu-es
[05:18] <phoenixz> vallim: yeah, multiple times.. but now I don't really bother :)  its easy but there are so many options that it takes 4 hours to configure all that you want..
[05:18] <SorenUbuntu> felix, only xp is installed on 110GB partition, the 10GB partition is currentlly empty, I am here via Ubuntu Live CD
[05:19] <junke> espera espera
[05:19] <phoenixz> !es | junke
[05:19] <junke> ok ok
[05:19] <junke> Gracias
[05:19] <phoenixz> junke: jaja, no te preocupes
[05:19] <CoJaBo-Aztec> phoenixz: It does, running as normal user with all Firefox addons (even Javascript) disabled. Still trying to figure out how its crashing.
[05:19] <marcus_aurelius> chaorain, i could copy all of C:\Documents...\iTunes Music to ~\Music, but that's 30+GB, i could also edit the .xml itunes library file, massive search and replace
[05:19] <felix_> junke ;)
[05:19] <junke> no se como ir pero ya voy
[05:19] <coreyman> How do I type in the location of a networked folder into Dolphin? like //192.168.50.3/windows/ ?
[05:19] <junke> jejej
[05:19] <junke> =)
[05:19] <phoenixz> CoJaBo-Aztec:  send me link over PM ?
[05:19] <felix_> junke, escribe /join #ubuntu-es
[05:20] <kanagaraj> pls tell me how to do shell script programming
[05:20] <phoenixz> junke: haz lo que dice felix_, puedes hablar ingles ahi
[05:20] <CoJaBo-Aztec> phoenixz: If this does turn out to be a real exploit, I'd like to have it submitted to Firefox/Kubuntu devs first...
[05:20] <phoenixz> kanagaraj: step one, you use a keyboard...
[05:20] <chaorain> marcus_aurelius, which version of song bird? 1.1.2?
[05:20] <kanagaraj> yes
[05:21] <Gnea> kanagaraj: step two, type correctly, this isn't aol..
[05:21] <phoenixz> kanagaraj: step 2, google for "bash programming tutorial" and follow one of the 10.000 websites on the subject
[05:21] <felix_> CoJaBo-Aztec, could you give me the link?
[05:21] <Gnea> !shell | kanagaraj
[05:21] <marcus_aurelius> chaorain, songbird 1.1.1
[05:21] <she_dyed> kanagaraj, ldp.org all the docuemnts a growing boy will ever need
[05:21] <vallim> phoenixz: I have not yet compiled, but want, It is true that the system faster?
[05:21] <lyrae> Hi. How do i view devices' information on terminal?
[05:21] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Oh, it refers to a CSS file... which is 1557 lines... o_O
[05:21] <SorenUbuntu> felix, only xp is installed on 110GB partition, the 10GB partition is currentlly empty, I am here via Ubuntu Live CD...............what is the next step? just install ubuntu on the 10GB partition? will it ask me what partition to put it on?
[05:22] <vallim> phoenixz: *is faster
[05:22] <arand> kanagaraj: open favourite text editor #!/bin/bash should be the first line, then just type away the commands... save as .sh and set permission to execute...
[05:22] <marcus_aurelius> chaorain, is there a different repository i need to add?
[05:22] <phoenixz> vallim: if you configure the right options, it can become faster yes, smaller... but usually its by %...
[05:22] <she_dyed> lyrae, type lspci or lshw
[05:22] <chaorain> marcus_aurelius, should be close enough. try <ctrl><Shift><O>
[05:22] <hax0r1337> In pulseaudio /etc/pulse/system.pa config, when specifying 'load-module module-alsa-sink device=hw:0', how can I specify the sound card to be 'card 0' and 'device 2'?
[05:22] <phoenixz> kanagaraj: bash programming is not somehting you learn in 1o seconds, its not the matrix here.. :)
[05:22] <felix_> SorenUbuntu,  open a terminal and run "ubiquity" i can guide you trough the process
[05:23] <SorenUbuntu> ty
[05:23] <marcus_aurelius> chaorain, ok, it gives me a file open dialog window
[05:23] <lyrae> she_dyed: thanks
[05:23] <kanagaraj> yes i have opened the terminal
[05:23] <felix_> CoJaBo-Aztec, whats the link?
[05:23] <phoenixz> kanagaraj: again, go to google, look for "bash programming tutorial" and follow those!
[05:23] <chaorain> marcus_aurelius, navigate to the correct folder and try importing 1 file
[05:24] <chaorain> marcus_aurelius, see if that works first
[05:24] <marcus_aurelius> chaorain, file is grayed out
[05:24] <scream> How do I list the total number of inodes on the disk?
[05:24] <chaorain> marcus_aurelius, oh sorry. select the folder
[05:24] <vallim> is there some danger in a moment of compilation? for example, corrupt my hard disk
[05:25] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Any idea how I could determine how its crashing?
[05:25] <vallim> phoenixz: Is there some danger in a moment of compilation? for example, corrupt my hard disk
[05:25] <chaorain> marcus_aurelius, oh yea, only works for music not videos
[05:25] <she_dyed> vallim, it creates a separate object when successful. where you move that can cause damage
[05:26] <phoenixz> vallim: no, compiling won;t cause your harddrive to blow up... it wont cause you to wake up with a mother in law in your bed and it won't cause WW III either :)
[05:26] <marcus_aurelius> chaorain, imported music just fine, plays well
[05:26] <chaorain> marcus_aurelius, so you good then?
[05:26] <S_A> she_dyed: it seems something screwed up on gateway configuration. checking it and thn i will get back. thx
[05:27] <she_dyed> S_A once you nail gateway you'll be fine
[05:27] <KingKimi>  how do i go to full screen and come out of fulllscreen ?installed guest utils from synaptic... do i need to install guest additions in vbox too ?
[05:27] <lyrae> she_dyed: i have a web cam connected. how do i know what it is? kinda like HDs are /media/hda, etc
[05:27] <marcus_aurelius> chaorain, well, i wanted to import my library, with the playlist, etc. which actually worked very nicely, imported my itunes playlists and all
[05:28] <vallim> ok.....phoenixz......nice to meeting you......I'm going out now.....
[05:28] <scream> How do I list the total number of inodes on the disk?
[05:28] <marcus_aurelius> chaorain, i mean, it's gonna get real tedious since i've got 6400+ tracks
[05:28] <marcus_aurelius> :-)
[05:29] <chaorain> marcus_aurelius, ok then you need to export the itunes playlists
[05:29] <jumbers> I'm having what seems to be DNS issues. Whenever I try to visit a page, it goes extremely slow with the initial checking. For example, Google.com takes a while to translate the DNS, but then loads quickly. What could cause this? It's not my ISP's DNS because other computers work just fine
[05:29] <phoenixz> vallim: you;re welcome
[05:29] <mauulate> hey can some help me with my sound
[05:29] <mauulate> plese
[05:29] <mauulate> please
[05:29] <phoenixz> !patience  | mauulate:
[05:29] <eross> lol  audio is #2 hot topic
[05:29] <chaorain> marcus_aurelius, um just a min
[05:30] <cached> how do i find in what path an executable is located in ? (for example, how would i find out where 'tar' is?)
[05:30] <marcus_aurelius> chaorain, my thoughts exactly, problem is it imports intact, so the location of the files are C:\Documents...blah blah..., not something linux or songbird will understand
[05:30] <felix_> jumbers, are you using tor? privoxy?
[05:30] <phoenixz> mauulate: gwhat zeemz too bee dzie problem?
[05:30] <eross> cached - which tar  ?
[05:30] <bullgard4> What process is "cqueue" on my Ubuntu 9.04 computer? Ubuntuusers Wiki does not know it.
[05:30] <argius> Holaaa
[05:30] <jumbers> felix_: Neither
[05:30] <eross> cached - type  'which tar'
[05:30] <argius> Holaa
[05:30] <cached> eross: ah
[05:30] <phoenixz> !es | argius
[05:30] <cached> eross: thanks
[05:31] <eross> lot easier than those other os's
[05:31] <phoenixz> argius: you're very welcome over here but we can only help you in english
[05:31] <chaorain> I think the paths are reletevte(mispelled) not absolute
[05:31] <felix_> jumbers, i was experiencing the same problem, but only when i configure this pc to have an static internat ip, instead of using dchp
[05:31] <felix_> internal*
[05:31] <jumbers> felix_: Any idea what could be causing it?
[05:31] <KingKimi> wil vbox use the computer's hardware or everything is virtualised except monitor :P ?
[05:32] <lmg> hello
[05:32] <Soren1> felix_, I locked up when I launched the Terminal
[05:32] <phoenixz> !hello | img
[05:32] <Jdardon> #ubuntu-gt
[05:32] <felix_> jumbers, nope, sorry
[05:32] <Soren1>  felix_, what was themcommand?
[05:33] <Soren1>  felix_, what was the command?
[05:33] <felix_> Soren1, "ubiquity"
[05:33] <scream> How do I list the total number of inodes on the disk?
[05:33] <mauulate> I can hear like a drum sound anytime I login to my  computer, what is that?
[05:33] <phoenixz> lmg: can we help you with something?
[05:34] <chaorain> marcus_aurelius, here is one option http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=37799
[05:34] <kanagaraj> Explain me the file system concept in ubuntu 9.04
[05:34] <phoenixz> mauulate: those are the pigmees hidden in your laptop welcomming you back to work..
[05:34] <lmg> not now but maybe one day ,thanks
[05:34] <losher> scream: that's hardly ever necessary. Can I ask why you think you need it?
[05:34] <KingKimi> scream, df -i
[05:34] <phoenixz> kanagaraj: whah? there is a system... thats stored files..
[05:34] <phoenixz> kanagaraj: you are talking about ext4?
[05:34] <RedWar> Having trouble with installation, got kernal panic unqble to mount message, and 9.04 does not een show up in grub, do I have to edit list somehow?
[05:34] <mauulate> ahh
[05:35] <kanagaraj> yes explain about that
[05:35] <Soren1> felix_, I chose English
[05:35] <mauulate> what
[05:35] <Jugglingtye> hi guys, got a question for those that are still awake and up... when i run ettercap from terminal sudo ettercap -g it can't find my eth0. when i run from applications->system tools->ettercap - it defaults to eth0.  any idea why the difference?
[05:35] <scream> losher, I'm relatively new to linux, I'm reading about the filesystem, and I've just learned about inodes.  I'm curious.
[05:35] <S_A> she_dyed: working now. interfaces files was screwed up. now workig like a charm. thx
[05:35] <losher> scream: fair enough...
[05:35] <hiemanshu> !java
[05:35] <Soren1> felix_, then Chicago
[05:36] <mauulate> whats the easies way to install the audio drivers
[05:36] <Jugglingtye> kanagaraj, there's some info on the ext4 system here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext4
[05:36] <mauulate> I am not getting any audio
[05:36] <marcus_aurelius> chaorain, not sure if that's an option, all my music is .m4a, but i'll give it a try, thanks
[05:36] <kanagaraj> thankyou
[05:36] <felix_> Soren1, check out the keyboard
[05:36] <Soren1> felix_, which keyboard, just plain "USA"?
[05:36] <chaorain> marcus_aurelius, Oh better option If you have an iPod http://www.gtkpod.org/about.html
[05:36] <losher> kanagaraj: I advice against using ext4. I don't think it's stable enough yet.
[05:37] <felix_> Soren1, take the one that types correctly symbols ,:_?¿Ñ!"·$%/)=? etc (every symbol in his key)
[05:37] <coreyman> sometimes when i shut down my laptop... it doesn't shut down it stops at a black screen, how can i fix/tell what is causing
[05:38] <Soren1> ok
[05:38] <oOarthurOo> kanagaraj: If you're using a laptop, use ext4. it's brilliant. Super fast checks after bad shutdowns. It's pretty speedy overall. If there are any bugs against ext4, they should be in launchpad
[05:38] <coreyman> oOarthurOo what about ext3?
[05:38] <oOarthurOo> Take a look through there if you're worried. But ext4 was the reason I switched over to Ubuntu from Debian... and it's been worth it so far.
[05:38] <DaZ|> ext4 likes to lose files after crash
[05:39] <coreyman> where would errors be in an ext3 system.
[05:39] <Soren1> I chose USA USA...........seems fine
[05:39] <marcus_aurelius> chaorain, kinda sorta an option, but my ipod is only 8GB, and my itunes library is 30GB *sigh*
[05:39] <phoenixz> DaZ|: ohw?  AFAIK, its just ext3 on steriods
[05:39] <kanagaraj> I have met with a problem that is i have downloaded some packages from universe and multiverse and i have burned it in a RW cd but when i insert it there is an error message "no packages were found"
[05:39] <felix_> oOarthurOo, i agree with you. i did the same ;)
[05:39] <DaZ|> phoenixz: no it's not
[05:39] <DaZ|> it's not compatible with ext3
[05:40] <coreyman> Can someone just tell me where my shutdown error logs are :(
[05:40] <coreyman> for EXT3
[05:40] <phoenixz> DaZ|: didnt say compatible.. but its very very much based on it, lots of it is the same.. there are only some extensions
[05:40] <Soren1> Felix_, is this trying to RePartition the HDD that was already Partitioned?
[05:40] <Soren1> .
[05:40] <marcus_aurelius> coreyman, possibly in /var/log/messages
[05:40] <coreyman> marcus_aurelius sweet thx
[05:40] <kanagaraj> I have met with a problem that is i have downloaded some packages from universe and multiverse and i have burned it in a RW cd but when i insert it there is an error message "no packages were found"
[05:41] <Guest45171> oOarthurOo, doesn't sid have ext4?
[05:41] <scream> losher, is the ext3/4 journal stored in a file?  One that is viewable?
[05:41] <oOarthurOo> Guest45171: You can't install sid. You have to install testing then upgrade... and as of... last week anyway, there was no testing installer with the ability to install to an ext4 partition
[05:42] <Soren1> felix_, is this trying to Re-Partition the HDD that was already Partitioned?
[05:42] <felix_> Soren1, in the step of managing partitions, select manual. then double click the empty partition. set your preferred file system (ext3 for safety, ext4 for speed). set mount point to / and tick "format partition"
[05:42] <musikgoat|main> kanagaraj: apt looks in /var/cache/apt/archive for local packages, did you simply put a bunch of .deb's directly onto the cd?
[05:42] <oOarthurOo> Guest45171: You can convert ext3 to ext4, but I wanted to try it "pure". :)
[05:42] <racecar56> my ubuntu wont boot because it says its missing an init= thing, what do i do?
[05:42] <racecar56> im on a live cd with the setup open in case my install is X_X
[05:42] <Guest45171> oOarthurOo, lol well i read there's frequent lockups though
[05:43] <losher> scream: great question: google says "you can use debugfs command with logdump option to view journal logs." (but they will be incomprehensible to mortals)
[05:43] <kanagaraj> yes i have just burned only the packages
[05:43] <whatvn> racecar56: you must repair grub
[05:43] <chaorain> marcus_aurelius, Ok last idea http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-10166_7-6797559-1.html
[05:43] <musikgoat|main> kanagaraj: easiest solution is to move them to the directory apt looks in
[05:43] <scream> losher, Inthe back of my mind, I figured the journal would be not in ASCII format that would be readable to us. :)
[05:43] <kanagaraj> But tell me in brief because iam a beginer
[05:44] <phoenixz> kanagaraj: did you just download the ubuntu installation CD?
[05:44] <phoenixz> kanagaraj: or better, did you just download the live CD?
[05:44] <losher> scream: by all means look at it, but don't be disappointed if you can't make sense of it...
[05:44] <musikgoat|main> phoenixz: no, he put some packages on a cd
[05:44] <kanagaraj> no i have got cd FROM UBUNTU SHIPIT
[05:44] <Soren1> felix_, after I click Manual do I click Forward?
[05:44] <musikgoat|main> kanagaraj: thats not what you said a moment ago
[05:45] <losher> scream: see http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/redhat-fedora-linux-help/121074-ext3-journal.html
[05:45] <musikgoat|main>  kanagaraj: I have met with a problem that is i have downloaded some packages from universe and multiverse and i have burned it in a RW cd but when i insert it there is an error message "no packages were found"
[05:45] <musikgoat|main> is that the case?
[05:45] <kanagaraj> i have downloaded some mpeg codecs and other codecs to install in my system
[05:45] <Soren1> .
[05:46] <musikgoat|main> kanagaraj: what is the name of the CD as shown in Places?
[05:47] <kanagaraj> But there is an error message is No suitable packages where found
[05:47] <Soren1> felix_: Soren1, in the step of managing partitions, select manual. then double click the empty partition. set your preferred file system (ext3 for safety, ext4 for speed). set mount point to / and tick "format partition".............. I can click Manual, but I do not see a place for the rest of the instructions.................................do I click forawrd after I click Manual
[05:47] <scream> losher, http://jon.pastebin.com/d3b81e794 nothing really interesting :)
[05:47] <losher> scream: :-)
[05:47] <felix_> Soren1, yes, click manual then next. then follow that instructions
[05:48] <Soren1> k
[05:48] <yaris123456789> is there a server side browser that my visitors can use?
[05:48] <bullgard4> What process is "cqueue" on my Ubuntu 9.04 computer? Ubuntuusers Wiki does not know it.
[05:49] <kanagaraj> :)pls tell me i have no internet connection but i has to install codecs to hear other proprietry format songs
[05:49] <SandGorgon> guys.. i had to do a hard restart of my system and I can play sound from vlc, skype, etc.... though I can still hear startup/shutdown sound. help !
[05:49] <losher> bullgard4: it's not one of the standard ones as far as I know. Can you run 'ps -axf' and pastebin the output?
[05:49] <musikgoat|main> bullgard4: man cqueue
[05:49] <musikgoat|main> its a performance app
[05:50] <scream> Is the ext4 filesystem stable within ubuntu jaunty?  I remember seeing a bug or two a few days ago regarding freezes.  Safe to convert all partitions to ext4?
[05:50] <racecar56> my ubuntu wont boot because it says its missing an init= thing, what do i do?
[05:50] <whatvn> SandGorgon: your problem is what I want, lol
[05:50] <SandGorgon> whatvn, why... what's up?
[05:50] <musikgoat|main> kanagaraj: I asked earlier, what is the name of the CD showing in "Places" menu
[05:50] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/284319
[05:50] <kanagaraj> no name
[05:50] <racecar56> meh ill just reinstall
[05:50] <Novocaine> Evan
[05:51] <whatvn> SandGorgon: get in sound option get it works.
[05:51] <DanaG> argh, I wish Xorg wouldn't actively REJECT keycodes it KNOWS it's received.
[05:51] <Soren1> felix_ , Device = /dev/sda5 .........type= ext3.......... mount point = / ............... format = checked .............. size = 11GB ........... used = unknown
[05:51] <prathamesh1> hi guys, need help. i try to send a data from n73 to the lenovo thinkpad r61 using ubuntu 9.04 via bluetooth. but sending is failed. from laptop to n73 data trasefer is done successfully
[05:51] <musikgoat|main> kanagaraj: case sensitive
[05:51] <DanaG> (WW) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: unable to handle keycode 465
[05:51] <losher> scream: in my opinion, ext4 is not ready for prime time. Use at your own risk...
[05:51] <DanaG> I mean, what the heck..... you see the key... so pass it on to the clients!  ARGH!
[05:51] <felix_> Soren1, go forward.
[05:51] <Soren1> k
[05:51] <kanagaraj> It has shown NO NAME
[05:51] <bullgard4> musikgoat|main: '~$ man cqueue; No manual entry for cqueue'
[05:51] <Novocaine> Farel
[05:52] <scream> losher, that is my gut feeling.  I've got everything non critical on ext4 save the / filesystem, that is still ext3
[05:52] <mpontillo> bullgard4: it may also help to pastebin the output of the command: "grep cqueue /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list" - then if a Debian package put it there, we'll know which one
[05:52] <prathamesh1> hi guys, need help. i try to send a data from n73 to the lenovo thinkpad r61 using ubuntu 9.04 via bluetooth. but sending is failed. from laptop to n73 data trasefer is done successfully
[05:52] <musikgoat|main> kanagaraj: ok, in a terminal type:  sudo cp /media/NO\ NAME/* /var/cache/apt/archives/
[05:52] <Soren1> felix_, "you have not selected any partitions for use as swap space. enabling swap space is recommended.................."
[05:52] <KingKimi> kanagaraj, do you want to move packages installed using synaptic from another computer ?? if yes, use APTONCD ..
[05:53] <losher> scream: fair enough. as long as you understand that the data are at risk. A couple of people on this list claimed their ext4 spontaneously corrupted itself. Could've been operator error, buit who knows?
[05:53] <kanagaraj> tell me in brief how to use APTONCD
[05:53] <scream> yup
[05:53] <musikgoat|main> !who | kanagaraj
[05:53] <scream> Oh... I'm not converting until it is stable.
[05:54] <felix_> ok Soren1 , go back
[05:54] <KingKimi> kanagaraj, in the another computer, in which your frnd had installed using synaptic or apt-get install .... you can use aptoncd.. ,.,,,,, not for the ones that you have downloaded from internet via browser
[05:54] <Soren1> felix, ok, back
[05:54] <KingKimi> !aptoncd | kanagaraj
[05:55] <bullgard4> losher: "Warning: Bad ps syntax."  PID=13 TTY=? STAT=S< COMMAND derives from [kthreadd]"
[05:55] <kanagaraj>  ubottu: Thankyou  but tell me in brief how to use APTON CD
[05:56] <Soren1> felix_, ok, I am back to the same place
[05:56] <ubuntu> if you reinstall ubuntu (but not reformat the partition) when it says Directories containing system files (/etc, /lib, /usr, /var, ...) it will not get /home, right?
[05:56] <losher> bullgard4: er, 'ps axf'
[05:56] <KingKimi> kanagaraj, install aptoncd in "another" computer that has installed packages via synaptic... then make a iso and burn to a cd..... then insert the cd to your computer...... it should say "start synaptic package manager" ...... choose that.. and synaptic would open.... from synaptic install the software that you want.. it will not download from internet.. instead uses the cd
[05:57] <Soren1> felix_ , I am here again, Device = /dev/sda5 .........type= ext3.......... mount point = / ............... format = checked .............. size = 11GB ........... used = unknown
[05:57] <felix_> Soren1, in manage partitions window, you have to remove the partition if it has made. then edit it. as you are using only 10gb dedicated to ubuntu i suggest a small swap, like 1gb. you need to set up two partitions: edit the unused partition and use 9000mb for it. and use the same options i said before (/, tick). then set up another partition with the free remaining space, and use it as swap filesystem. then go forward
[05:57] <dtchen> bullgard4: it's a kernel thread to manage workqueues
[05:57] <phoenixz> ubuntu that probably does include /home! since /home is not on its own partition, and it will format the partition!
[05:58] <Soren1> felix_, my brain just exploded
[05:58] <ubuntu> phoenixz: so.... what should I do to reinstall + preserve /home?
[05:58] <losher> bullgard4, dtchen: that sounds right...
[05:58] <kanagaraj>  KingKimi: Thankyou i Will try and i will be back for next confuse.
[05:59] <racecar56> phoenixz: by the way it's when you attempt to install, but you say don't format it
[05:59] <KingKimi> kanagaraj, :D good luck
[05:59] <she_dyed> racecar56, maybe dump all /home on a USB stick and start clean, could be an option
[05:59] <phoenixz> racecar56: oh if ubuntu only had native lvm support....  I don't suppose you have another partition  or space left?
[05:59] <bullgard4> losher: http://paste.debian.net/36687
[05:59] <phoenixz> racecar56: could be, but I'm not sure thats a good idea
[06:00] <racecar56> phoenixz: i DO have a seperate windows install, as this is a old machine I use for old games and stuff
[06:00] <losher> bullgard4: dtchen is right. It belongs to kthreadd. Nothing to worry about....
[06:00] <bfbf> when i dd an .iso to my thumb drive it is not bootable, how do I make it bootable?
[06:00] <phoenixz> racecar56: then the solution is simple, ditch the windows partition ;)
[06:00] <felix_> Soren1, select your partition. delete it. create an ext3 partition of 9000mb. create other partition with the free remaining space as swap. then click forward
[06:00] <racecar56> phoenixz: -_-
[06:00] <racecar56> phoenixz: should i move my home THERE?
[06:00] <bullgard4> dtchen: Where can I probably read more about workqueues in the Linux kernel?
[06:01] <racecar56> phoenixz: like put /home's stuff in there
[06:01] <phoenixz> bfbf: make the partition on it active? just a guess from my side..
[06:01] <Soren1> felix_, I am back at prepare disk space, IDK what I am trying to do here...............felix_: Soren1, in manage partitions window, you have to remove the partition if it has made. then edit it. as you are using only 10gb dedicated to ubuntu i suggest a small swap, like 1gb. you need to set up two partitions: edit the unused partition and use 9000mb for it. and use the same options i said before (/, tick). then set up another parti
[06:01] <phoenixz> bullgard4: kernel.orgr
[06:01] <racecar56> phoenixz: btw i wish i didnt have to use windows, all my stuff is windows only
[06:01] <Soren1> felix_, I am not sure how
[06:01] <phoenixz> bullgard4: www.kernel.org
[06:01] <racecar56> phoenixz: jk not all
[06:01] <bullgard4> phoenixz: Thank you.
[06:01] <racecar56> phoenixz: i guess thats all i can do.......
[06:01] <Ademan> does anyone know of a utility to peek inside shared objects and see what symbols they expose?
[06:01] <phoenixz> racecar56: your stuff? like what? the only stuff not really working on linux are games, still.. and even there its changing
[06:02] <racecar56> phoenixz: yeah
[06:02] <racecar56> phoenixz: they are _OLD_ games though
[06:02] <Burlynn> ubuntu 8.10 new install on a laptop intel 945 chipset, normal visual effects, DarkRoom theme option, all my popup notifications are two colors, is this normal? the background is half tan half grey, does not look right
[06:02] <phoenixz> racecar56: Im not really sure what you could do.. you could try to manually remove everything but /home, then rename home to /mydata.. then install WITHOUT FORMAT... but Im not sure if that works.. I'd be sure to have a backup ! :)
[06:02] <bullgard4> losher: I do not worry. I'd like to learn more about the Linux kernel. --  Thank you.
[06:02] <felix_> Soren1, what do you see? its your 10gb partition used or not?
[06:02] <DanaG> http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11227
[06:03] <racecar56> phoenixz: should i move my /home to my windows partition temporarily?
[06:03] <phoenixz> racecar56: that could be a solution yeah
[06:03] <racecar56> phoenixz: btw i am attempting a reinstall without format right now, but im wondering will it or will it not overwrite home
[06:03] <losher> bullgard4: http://tldp.org/LDP/tlk/tlk.html is an online book about the linux kernel
[06:03] <racecar56> phoenixz: ill pastebin the dialog if u want
[06:04] <phoenixz> racecar56: well, only one way to find out but if you dont have a backup, Id stop right now if I were you
[06:04] <racecar56> phoenixz: i don't, probably all i can do is move my stuff to windows partition....
[06:04] <she_dyed> racer56 /home is not on a separate partition?
[06:04] <racecar56> she_dyed: on all of my others, they are
[06:04] <racecar56> she_dyed: but this comp isn't
[06:04] <daverag> how do I get the ID # of a window when I only know its named ID?  Does that even make sense? I need to put an avi as wallpaper with xwinwrap
[06:05] <she_dyed> racer56 is there a lot of stuff there in /home
[06:05] <bullgard4> losher: This book has been written in 1999. But at that time there was no cqueue yet. :-(
[06:05] <Soren1> felix_, Prepare disk space / How do you want to partition disk?  / Beofre = /dev/sda1 91%; free 8% ............ after dev/sda1 19% ubuntu 72% free 8% ............... Guided is checked
[06:05] <racecar56> she_dyed: idk really
[06:05] <phoenixz> racecar56: that would be the best option yeah
[06:05] <bullgard4> dtchen: Thank you for your help.
[06:05] <she_dyed> racecar56, agree with phoenixz
[06:06] <losher> bullgard4: there are more up to date books if you're up to it I believe. I'm sure amazon will have them listed
[06:06] <felix_> Soren1, check manual, then forward
[06:06] <racecar56> phoenixz: idea: go to gparted and resize my main partition, make new partition in that space and move /home there. sound good?
[06:06] <joseoz> hi
[06:06] <felix_> Soren1, now, what do you see?
[06:06] <Soren1> felix_, scanning disks
[06:06] <racecar56> phoenixz: btw the main partition is ext4
[06:06] <phoenixz> racecar56: I think its eassier to start live CD,mount windows and your partition with /home, move /home to your windows and then start installation...
[06:06] <joseoz> hay alguien de peru??
[06:06] <rcsheets> I'm looking for a good MTA (or example MTA configuration) for a development server where applications may try to send mail, but the mail should simply be shunted to a debug address so it doesn't get out into the wild. any suggestions?
[06:07] <racecar56> phoenixz: although there is one problem
[06:07] <bullgard4> losher: Right.
[06:07] <Soren1> felix_, Preparing partitions
[06:07] <losher> !es | joseoz
[06:07] <racecar56> phoenixz: if i move my stuff off of windows when install is done, then i will have to do it as root, then it will lose my ownership...
[06:07] <racecar56> phoenixz: then ill have an install as bad as my laptop
[06:08] <phoenixz> racecar56: no, you just chown it back to your desktop user.. simple and easy
[06:08] <rcsheets> oh perhaps i should try #ubuntu-server instead. i will go there.
[06:08] <racecar56> phoenixz: UMMMMM
[06:08] <racecar56> phoenixz: *oops*
[06:08] <racecar56> phoenixz: caps
[06:08] <racecar56> phoenixz: then it will say too many arguments
[06:08] <phoenixz> racecar56: go to a command console and type "man chown" and "man chmod"
[06:09] <racecar56> phoenixz: then i will have to get a new keyboard
[06:09] <racecar56> phoenixz: :P
[06:09] <racecar56> phoenixz: im in a term now...
[06:09] <Soren1> femix, device = /dev/sda AND device = /dev/sda1; type = ntsf; size = 125GB; used = 26MB
[06:09] <phoenixz> racecar56: ah, that one.. simple solution: find . * -exec chown user:user {} \;
[06:09] <racecar56> phoenixz: im using irssi
[06:09] <Soren1> felix_, device = /dev/sda AND device = /dev/sda1; type = ntsf; size = 125GB; used = 26MB
[06:10] <phoenixz> racecar56: or better
[06:10] <racecar56> phoenixz: does find include . files like .dmrc?
[06:10] <phoenixz> find /home * -exec chown user:user {} \;
[06:10] <racecar56> phoenixz: does find include . files like .dmrc?
[06:10] <Soren1> felix_, device = free space;size = 11GB
[06:10] <phoenixz> you basically say.. find all files and directories in /home, and for each one, execute chown user:user
[06:10] <phoenixz> racecar56: it should.. if not, try man find, to see how to include hidden files
[06:10] <racecar56> phoenixz: and obviously i replace user with racecar56, right?
[06:11] <xyleborus> hm.... why intel gm965 graphic driver not supported in ubuntu?
[06:11] <phoenixz> racecar56: yeah, I put user there because I dunno your user name :)
[06:11] <racecar56> phoenixz: k
[06:11] <phoenixz> !intel | xyleborus this may probably answer that
[06:11] <felix_> Soren1, on device = free, single clic. then select "edit partition" (9000, ext3, /, tick format)
[06:12] <phoenixz> racecar56: and about the . files, the hidden files, I'm not sure, pleases do check that in the man find, or in the #linux channel
[06:13] <racecar56> phoenixz: moving my home to windows
[06:13] <Soren1>  felix_: Soren1, on device = free, single clic [Only NewPartition and UndoChanges are available]. then select "edit partition" (9000, ext3, /, tick format)
[06:13] <racecar56> phoenixz: =D that i had a really nice IDE hard drive hanging around to stick in this old computer...
[06:14] <phoenixz> racecar56: you checked first if your windows partition is big enough for your /home, to avoid a mess?
[06:14] <racecar56> phoenixz: it supports sata but i dont have hardly any of those
[06:14] <racecar56> phoenixz: no, oops
[06:14] <racecar56> phoenixz: darn in
[06:14] <racecar56> phoenixz: darn it
[06:14] <racecar56> phoenixz: nvm its done
[06:14]  * phoenixz is just whistling a bit..
[06:14] <testit> hi, is the #php channel accessible?
[06:15] <Soren1>  felix_: do you mean on device = Device = /dev/sda1................., single clic [Only NewPartition and UndoChanges are available]. then select "edit partition" (9000, ext3, /, tick format)
[06:15] <felix_> Soren1, then clic on new partition
[06:16] <xyleborus> if there graphic driver not supported, can my ubuntu enable graphic effect without system crash?
[06:16] <testit> it says the #php overflow??
[06:16] <racecar56> phoenixz: but there is one weird thing that i am wondering
[06:16] <racecar56> phoenixz: why does it say my hard drive is /dev/sda yet gparted live says it is /dev/hda?
[06:16] <racecar56> phoenixz: it as in ubuntu
[06:17] <``y7> how do you release an ip address with ifconfig?
[06:17] <Soren1> felix_, I am doing this to the 125MBone or the 11MB one?
[06:17] <she_dyed> racecar56, same thing diff names thats all
[06:17] <wng_z3r0> Hi, as soon as I log into ubuntu (enter user name/pass), the screen goes black and the OS stops responding. How do I troubleshoot this?
[06:17] <phoenixz> racecar56: check in a text console what you have in /dev
[06:17] <phoenixz> racecar56: sorry, gotta go now, its pas 1 here alredy
[06:17] <racecar56> phoenixz: only a bunch of sdaX's
[06:17] <phoenixz> racecar56: Im sure other people here can assist you with the rest
[06:18] <racecar56> phoenixz: obye
[06:18] <racecar56> phoenixz: bye
[06:18] <she_dyed> East Coast eh phoenixz
[06:18] <felix_> Soren1, SELECT the free partition, then click on new
[06:18] <phoenixz> racecar56: no hda? in that case, I suppose gparted is borking up
[06:18] <phoenixz> she_dyed: More like mexico :)
[06:18] <she_dyed> cya man
[06:18] <phoenixz> whoooo...
[06:19] <xyleborus> if there graphic driver not supported, can my ubuntu enable graphic effect without system crash? can anyone help me?
[06:20] <Soren1> felix_, primary or logical? then I put in 9000........... beginning or end? use as ext3? mount point?
[06:21] <felix_> Soren1, it doesnt matter, leave as default
[06:22] <racecar56> why does ubuntu say my hard drive is /dev/sda yet gparted live says my hard drive is /dev/hda, which is proper as i have a IDE hard drive, as well as cd drievs
[06:22] <racecar56> *drives
[06:23] <dorkface> Hi all.  Is there a way to search repositories for a package that is not in your sources list?
[06:23] <she_dyed> racecar56, its all the same thing for IDE
[06:23] <felix_> Soren1, use ext3 for safety or ext4 for speed. mount point should be /
[06:23] <dorkface> to search a repository*
[06:23] <she_dyed> racecar56, you can proceed with your plan using gparted
[06:23] <dtchen> dorkface: apt-file, http://packages.ubuntu.com, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu
[06:24] <racecar56> she_dyed: yes, i know that they are the same drives but im curious why ubuntu things it is a SCSI/SATA as it isnt
[06:24] <she_dyed> no just because its sda doesnt mean its scsi
[06:24] <racecar56> she_dyed: *thinks
[06:24] <racecar56> she_dyed: k...
[06:24] <Soren1> felix, ok, now it says: Device = /dev/sda................ Device = /devsda1 type=ntfs size=125GB used=26GB ........... Device=/dev/sda5 type=ext3 format-check size=8GB used=unknown............. Device=freespace size=2GB
[06:24] <she_dyed> its the naming convention now racecar56
[06:25] <racecar56> she_dyed: but anyway, why do the 2 think different?
[06:25] <she_dyed> put in another live CD of Linux there and you'll start seeing it more and more racecar56
[06:25] <racecar56> she_dyed: more like USB stick... my cd's are bad
[06:25] <she_dyed> racecar56, they're thinking hte same, gparted is sticking to its old way of naming drives
[06:25] <United4Peace> Hi
[06:26] <racecar56> she_dyed: rly? ill try with another cd/stick and ill see if it says sda or hda.....
[06:26] <she_dyed> racecar56, yeah so you can see
[06:26] <racecar56> she_dyed: even though my modern desktop pc says sda like it REALLY is both on gparted live and ubuntu
[06:27] <racecar56> she_dyed: which is proper as it is SATA2
[06:27] <she_dyed> racecar56, you have gparted live?
[06:27] <United4Peace> I want to convert .dmg file to iso , there is MagicISO but it's for windows only
[06:27] <Soren1> felix, ok, now it says: Device = /dev/sda................ Device = /devsda1 type=ntfs size=125GB used=26GB ........... Device=/dev/sda5 type=ext3 format=check size=8GB used=unknown............. Device=freespace size=2GB
[06:27] <racecar56> she_dyed: im not on it now but yes, i have it on a cd
[06:27] <felix_> ok Soren1 , so you left 2gb for the swap? if NO edit the partition you have done and change the size value. if YES, set up a new partition, in the unused space
[06:27] <she_dyed> racecar56, why dont you use that then? if it calls it properly as sda
[06:28] <felix_> Soren1, that partition must be set to swap
[06:28] <racecar56> she_dyed: you mean as it properly calls it as hda, and im using ubuntu because ubuntu is an installable os
[06:28] <Soren1> felix, IDK what is going on
[06:28] <SavageLunch> Could somebody recommend me an IRC client?
[06:28] <racecar56> SavageLunch: xchat
[06:29] <racecar56> SavageLunch: just stay away from xchat-gnome
[06:29] <SavageLunch> Hhhmm
[06:29] <eross> pidgin is cool
[06:29] <racecar56> SavageLunch: xchat is da bomb
[06:29] <racecar56> eross: pidgin as an irc client? oh come on
[06:29] <testit> join #php
[06:29] <SavageLunch> How do I know if I have xchat or xchat-gnome?
[06:29] <eross> lol
[06:29] <racecar56> eross: i know it can but i think it sucks at irc
[06:29] <Leomar> hi, hellow everyone
[06:30] <racecar56> eross: because the only way i can get an irc window up is when nickserv tells me to identify
[06:30] <racecar56> eross: and the ctcp version thing
[06:30] <eross> less manual foolery?
[06:30] <racecar56> brb
[06:31] <Soren1> felix_, ty for trying to help me, but IDK what I am doing so I think I will try again tomorow
[06:33] <Leomar> i need help using and external hard drive enclusure <2.5" USB 2.0-SATA >iMicro in Ubuntu 8.10, i bought it today, i'm able to use it in another PC with XP but when i connect it in Ubuntu it says "USB Unit" recognized as /dev/sdb and nothing more, i cant mount it , fdisk /dev/sdb doesn't work
[06:33] <Leomar> any idea ?
[06:33] <Soren1> felix_, ty
[06:35] <Leomar> ﻿ i need help using and external hard drive enclusure <2.5" USB 2.0-SATA >iMicro in Ubuntu 8.10, i bought it today, i'm able to use it in another PC with XP but when i connect it in Ubuntu it says "USB Unit" recognized as /dev/sdb and nothing more, i cant mount it , fdisk /dev/sdb doesn't work . ﻿any idea ? Thanks
[06:36] <Leomar> ANYONE ?
[06:36] <Leomar> ﻿ i need help using and external hard drive enclusure <2.5" USB 2.0-SATA >iMicro in Ubuntu 8.10, i bought it today, i'm able to use it in another PC with XP but when i connect it in Ubuntu it says "USB Unit" recognized as /dev/sdb and nothing more, i cant mount it , fdisk /dev/sdb doesn't work . ﻿any idea ? Thanks
[06:36] <Leomar> ﻿ i need help using and external hard drive enclusure <2.5" USB 2.0-SATA >iMicro in Ubuntu 8.10, i bought it today, i'm able to use it in another PC with XP but when i connect it in Ubuntu it says "USB Unit" recognized as /dev/sdb and nothing more, i cant mount it , fdisk /dev/sdb doesn't work . ﻿any idea ? Thanks
[06:36] <Leomar> ﻿ i need help using and external hard drive enclusure <2.5" USB 2.0-SATA >iMicro in Ubuntu 8.10, i bought it today, i'm able to use it in another PC with XP but when i connect it in Ubuntu it says "USB Unit" recognized as /dev/sdb and nothing more, i cant mount it , fdisk /dev/sdb doesn't work . ﻿any idea ? Thanks
[06:36] <FloodBot2> Leomar: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:38] <Leomar> please
[06:38] <Leomar> any help ? ﻿ i need help using and external hard drive enclusure <2.5" USB 2.0-SATA >iMicro in Ubuntu 8.10, i bought it today, i'm able to use it in another PC with XP but when i connect it in Ubuntu it says "USB Unit" recognized as /dev/sdb and nothing more, i cant mount it , fdisk /dev/sdb doesn't work . ﻿any idea ? Thanks
[06:38] <lstarnes> Leomar: stop. we can read your messages, but it is possible thet either nobody currently active knows an answer, or someone is working on finding an answer.
[06:39] <kebomix> any body here help me with mythtv plz cuz their room almost dead
[06:40]  * Soren1 goes off to read more about ubiquity and XP/Ubuntu OS installs
[06:40]  * RHorse goes off to shower
[06:40] <she_dyed> Leomar dmesg and look at the last few lines referring to sdb
[06:41] <felix_> whats the command to build dependences of a certain package?
[06:42] <trinium> how to import key in seahorse??
[06:43] <Leomar> ﻿she_dyed here is it :
[06:43] <Leomar> root@leo-desktop:~# dmesg | grep sdb
[06:43] <Leomar> [  121.616419] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI disk
[06:43] <Leomar> [22871.598245] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI disk
[06:43] <FloodBot2> Leomar: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:43] <indus> felix_apt-get build-dep
[06:43] <Leomar> sorry for the flood
[06:43] <she_dyed> Leomar ls -l /dev/sdb*
[06:43] <indus> felix_: apt-get build-dep <packagename>
[06:44] <dorkface> I have a virtual machine with intrepid, but I want to install a .deb file.  I'm used to just double clicking it in order for it to install, but when I do so, it's asking for a program to open it.  What program should I use?
[06:44]  * Soren1 's brain blows up again while reading Ubiquity
[06:45] <felix_> thx indus
[06:45] <Leomar> 1 2she_dyed: root@leo-desktop:~# ls -l /dev/sdb* brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 16 2009-05-21 01:43 /dev/sdb
[06:45] <Leomar> just it self
[06:45] <Leomar> no sdb1 nor sdb2 etc
[06:46] <she_dyed> Leomar, got another live CD distro?
[06:46] <indus> Leomar: can u ask question again
[06:47] <Leomar> i have 7.04, i think, let me see. What is your intention
[06:47] <Soren1> will someone link me to the simplest explanation of XP/Ubuntu installation...................... there are a million
[06:47] <lstarnes> Leomar: check lsb_release -d
[06:47] <she_dyed> paste your original question again Leomar for indus
[06:47] <Leomar> ok
[06:47] <smooch1502> hi
[06:47] <Leomar> ﻿ i need help using and external hard drive enclusure <2.5" USB 2.0-SATA >iMicro in Ubuntu 8.10, i bought it today, i'm able to use it in another PC with XP but when i connect it in Ubuntu it says "USB Unit" recognized as /dev/sdb and nothing more, i cant mount it , fdisk /dev/sdb doesn't work . ﻿any idea ? Thanks
[06:48] <kebomix> my thinkpad R52 , Volume Buttons don't work with new notifications system on ubuntu 9.04 ? any solution ?!
[06:48] <soreau> ! work
[06:49] <indus> Leomar: is this jaunty 9.04 u using?
[06:49] <Leomar> no, 8.04
[06:49] <soreau> When are we dropping support for 8.04 again?
[06:50] <soreau> officially
[06:50] <indus> soreau: 2011
[06:50] <lstarnes> soreau: 3 years after its release (5 for the server edition)
[06:50] <indus> Leomar: does it list under lsusb
[06:50] <soreau> indus: Not till 11.04?
[06:50] <tianchai> HI
[06:50] <moolah> hello all
[06:50] <tianchai> GOOD MORNING
[06:51] <soreau> lstarnes: Ah yes, that's what I recall
[06:51] <moolah> newbie question
[06:51] <soreau> tianchai: Hi
[06:51] <Leomar> i want to upgrate to 9.04 that's why i'm doing the backup
[06:51] <soreau> mooky: welcome
[06:51] <moolah> how do i install a package when i dont have internet connectivity?
[06:51] <KingKimi> !ask | moolah
[06:51] <tianchai> WHERE ARE LIVE
[06:51] <she_dyed> kebomix, make sure to unmute (next to vol on my stinkpad)
[06:51] <tianchai> 你
[06:51] <indus> Leomar: its an external usb harddrive right?
[06:51] <moolah> can i download the .deb and use it somehow after copying to a USB key?
[06:51] <soreau> moolah: Through the CD or, you have to get the internet
[06:51] <Leomar> ﻿indus: no
[06:51] <moolah> soreau: no its not on the cd
[06:52] <indus> Leomar: try this sudo modprobe -i usb_storage
[06:52] <soreau> moolah: Yes you can get a deb, but it may rely on other deb packages to be installed
[06:52] <moolah> soreau: its for another comp thats offline, i need to install wicd on it, so it can go online
[06:52] <moolah> ah...damn
[06:52] <ryan_> i can't access my shared folders on my windows machine through my home network.
[06:52] <kebomix> she_dyed : i did , buttons do volume up and down, the notifications of them dont appear like brightness one's
[06:52] <moolah> so what should i do?
[06:53] <she_dyed> kebomix, oh ignore me then
[06:53] <indus> Leomar: also try this > add line usb_storage to /etc/modules
[06:53] <Leomar> ﻿indus: ok. i did now. No output, don't si de partitions jet
[06:53] <cg> hello. when mount a nfs with 'mount -o -o soft,intr,bg,timeo=50 xxx xxx' . does the 'timeo=50' means 'timeout 50 *seconds*' ?
[06:53] <Soren1> .
[06:53] <Leomar> sorry, dont see the partitions jet
[06:53] <indus> Leomar: try last step i said and restart pc
[06:53] <ziroday> cg: yep, it means wait 50 seconds before attempting to mount the drive IIRC
[06:54] <indus> Leomar: or wait
[06:54] <ryan_> i can't access my shared folders on my windows machine through my home network.
[06:54] <Leomar> ok
[06:54] <cg> ziroday: thank you very much.
[06:54] <Leomar> i'll wait
[06:54] <indus> Leomar: nvm ok just restart it and see
[06:54] <indus> good luck
[06:54] <ziroday> cg: have fun!
[06:54] <Leomar> ok i'll restart then
[06:56] <cg> ziroday: another question. if i mount without option '-o soft,intr,bg,timeo=50', when the nfs server is down, and i 'cd /mount_piont' and 'ls', my terminal is blocked. and even 'fuser -k /mount_point' blocks the terminal. any solutions ?
[06:57] <ziroday> cg: you can always try doing ctrl+c or ctrl+z
[06:58] <cg> ziroday: nothing happens when Ctrl+c or ctrl+z
[06:58] <ziroday> cg: and closing the terminal?
[06:58] <shiznebit> hey guys im wondering on how to automatically mount an external drive after suspend ?
[06:58] <she_dyed> cg, if you can find xkill in utilities menu or something
[06:58] <Burlynn> ubuntu 8.10 new install on a laptop intel 945 chipset, normal visual effects, DarkRoom theme option, all my popup notifications are two colors, is this normal? the background is half tan half grey, does not look right
[06:59] <cg> ziroday: of course i can close it by force. the problem is, the mount piont is still there, and any program goes into it will be blocked, and so does the terminal
[06:59] <ziroday> cg: sorry I don't know
[07:00] <losher> cg: check out 'man 5 nfs'. That timeout is *tenths* of a second, and its timeout until retry, so you may need retrans=1 or some such
[07:00] <cg> ziroday: that's all right. thanks again. i will keep google-ing it until i got an answer
[07:01] <Leomar> indus: i restarted the system, i can see the HD in lsusb => ﻿Bus 005 Device 003: ID 152d:2338 JMicron Technology Corp. / JMicron USA Technology Corp. JM20337 Hi-Speed USB to SATA & PATA Combo Bridge, but cant mount it
[07:01] <indus> sudo mount -a
[07:01] <cg> losher: ok, thanks! and i hope you can answer me the other question about the blocked terminal
[07:01] <Leomar> i do: ls -l /dev/sdb* and cant see sdb1 or nothing
[07:01] <indus> Leomar: sudo mount -a
[07:01] <klenix>  presently i'm running ubuntu 8.04, i want upgrade into ubuntu 9.04. What is the best should i do. should i fresh install it?
[07:02] <indus> klenix: take back up and upgrade from update manager
[07:02] <losher> cg: if you get the parameters right, it shouldn't block. See retrans & retry\
[07:02] <RHorse> Leomar ls -rt /dev give anything?
[07:03] <cg> losher: yes, you are right. the problem is , if someone forgot to add the proper options, it will block, and how to solve it? i don't want to restart the server
[07:03] <indus> Leomar: type mount in terminal and paste in pastebin
[07:03] <indus> Leomar: contents that is
[07:03] <raylu> cg: you could just set the timeout lower...
[07:04] <cg> raylu: ok, thanks, but what if it had ALREADY happened ..
[07:04] <Leomar> i did: sudo mount -a, nothing
[07:04] <raylu> cg: open a new shell and kill ls, i suppose
[07:04] <indus> Leomar: paste output of mount
[07:05] <indus> !paste > Leomar
[07:05] <klenix> indus: can i update directly into 9.04? or should be  8.10 first?
[07:05] <cg> raylu: ls doesn't answer to the 'kill' even 'kill -9' by root
[07:05] <Leomar> /dev/sda2 on / type ext3 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro)
[07:05] <Leomar> proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[07:05] <Leomar> /sys on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[07:05] <Leomar> varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=0755)
[07:05] <Leomar> varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=1777)
[07:05] <Leomar> udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
[07:05] <FloodBot2> Leomar: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:05] <Leomar> devshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[07:05] <Leomar> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
[07:05] <Leomar> lrm on /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/volatile type tmpfs (rw)
[07:05] <Leomar> securityfs on /sys/kernel/security type securityfs (rw)
[07:05] <losher> cg: if someone *forgot* the right options, then no. In that case, the whole design of nfs is that it will block. The options are on the client anyway, not the server. You can't expect miracles
[07:05] <Leomar> binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[07:05] <Leomar> gvfs-fuse-daemon on /root/.gvfs type fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon (rw,nosuid,nodev)
[07:05] <Leomar> sorry
[07:05] <raylu> cg: kill -9 isn't even passed to the program; the kernel takes it off the run queue. if that doesn't work, you did it wrong :D
[07:05] <cg> losher: ok. this is good !
[07:05] <indus> klenix: type sudo update-manager -d
[07:06] <indus> klenix: but i recommend a fresh install in your case since u r on 8.04
[07:06] <losher> raylu: things that are in disk wait can't even be KILLed...
[07:06] <raylu> losher: but they can be TERMed
[07:06] <klenix> indus: thanks, let me try.
[07:06] <Flannel> indus, klenix: no.  You need to go from 8.04 to 8.10 to 9.04.  Also, you don't need to do sudo update-manager -d
[07:06] <Soren1> will someone link me to the simplest explanation of XP/Ubuntu installation...................... there are a million
[07:06] <cg> raylu: losher : so it will block when the server restart.
[07:07] <Flannel> !dualboot | Soren1
[07:07] <Leomar> ﻿RHorse: "﻿ls -rt /dev", ﻿ls -rt /dev/sdb just: /dev/sdb it gives a lot of things
[07:07] <losher> raylu: I doubt you can TERM them either, actually....
[07:07] <indus> Flannel: hardy is LTS and will only offer the next LTS by default behaviour
[07:07] <raylu> losher: i'm sure you can
[07:07] <Flannel> indus: -d won't fix that
[07:07] <raylu> losher: kill -9 should always work
[07:07] <cg> raylu: no, it's not true
[07:07] <Flannel> indus: What you do need to do, is go to software sources and choose "notify me of all updates" not just LTS (third, fourth tab?)
[07:07] <indus> Flannel: hmm i guess
[07:07] <Soren1> ty Flannel
[07:07] <Flannel> er
[07:07] <Flannel> klenix: What you do need to do, is go to software sources and choose "notify me of all updates" not just LTS (third, fourth tab?)
[07:07] <losher> cg: the client will block *until* the server restarts....
[07:07] <cg> raylu: proccess in "UNINTERRUPTABLE" state does not answer any signals
[07:08] <indus> Flannel: ya so instead of going through 8.10 and 9.04 go directly
[07:08] <cg> losher: lol , yes
[07:08] <Flannel> klenix: then the next time you use update-manager, it'll notify you that you can upgrade to 8.10
[07:08] <raylu> cg: kill -9 isn't sent as a signal
[07:08] <Flannel> indus: No.  You don't want to do that.  Nor will update-manager -d do that.
[07:08] <cg> raylu: it is
[07:08] <Leomar> root@leo-desktop:~# mount /dev/sda2 on / type ext3 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro) proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) /sys on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=0755) varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=1777) udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755) devshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw) devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620) lrm on /lib/modules/2.6.2
[07:08] <raylu> cg: the kernel takes it off the run queue
[07:08] <indus> klenix: Flannel:yes sorry my mistake
[07:08] <Flannel> !paste | Leomar
[07:09] <Flannel> Leomar: pastebin is an easier place to put it (and have it still be legible, and easier for you, etc)
[07:09] <indus> Flannel: klenix:changing sources list to jaunty does work though :)
[07:09] <e-1> how stupid/smart is it to resize (larger) the partition that you're currently working from?
[07:09] <|lekarousar|> guys i need help with jaunty, can anyone help please?
[07:09] <Flannel> !worksforme | indus, klenix
[07:09] <raylu> cg: http://www.manpagez.com/man/2/sigaction/
[07:09] <losher> e-1: beyond stupid
[07:09] <raylu> The sa_mask field specified in act is not allowed to block SIGKILL or SIGSTOP.  Any attempt to do so will be silently ignored.
[07:09] <Leomar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/176941/
[07:09] <raylu> cg: so i meant kill, not term
[07:09] <Flannel> indus: No, please don't recommend that here.  Only supported upgrades are from version to the next version (and LTS to LTS).  Please don't recommend otherwise.
[07:09] <cg> raylu: 'kill' just tell kernel to send 'sigkill' to the process, and the kernel terminate the process if it receives a 'SIGKILL'
[07:10] <indus> Flannel: well ok
[07:10] <raylu> cg: oh... you're right :P
[07:10] <indus> klenix: do a fresh install
[07:10] <indus> klenix: download 9.04 and u can install
[07:10] <Leomar> ﻿Flannel: that way ??
[07:10] <Flannel> klenix: no, don't do a fresh install.  Upgrading will work just fine.
[07:10] <Xavierg2003> The backend took too much time to process the synchronous request - you need to fork! anyone know what that means?
[07:10] <Leomar> ﻿Flannel: ﻿﻿http://paste.ubuntu.com/176941/
[07:11] <indus> Leomar: yes
[07:11] <Leomar> ok
[07:11] <losher> raylu: we're having terminological issues: you can always kill -9 a process but that doesn't mean it goes away. If it's in disk-wait it won't go away. It it isn't reaped it will become a zombie & sit there...
[07:11] <migo> hello everyone
[07:11] <raylu> losher: yeah, turns out you're right
[07:11] <cellofellow> anyone know how to import a key with Seahorse and have that key be *my* key as opposed to someone else's key?
[07:11] <Xavierg2003> Anyone?
[07:11] <losher> raylu: had to happen eventually...
[07:11] <raylu> losher: :(
[07:12] <raylu> cellofellow: get the private key
[07:12] <cg> losher: you are all right but the 'zombie' it's an "UNINTERRUPTABLE" state
[07:12] <Soren1> what is this SWAP stuff in a Dual Boot
[07:12] <Xavierg2003> Where do i report a problem when it asks me to report the error details?
[07:12] <Flannel> !bugs | Xavierg2003
[07:12] <raylu> Soren1: swap = virtual memory
[07:12] <|lekarousar|> i upgraded to jaunty and now it says displayconfig-gtk isn't installed, and there's no internet either, as it can't recognize my ethernet, help please?
[07:12] <cellofellow> raylu: oh, shucks, only have the public key
[07:12] <raylu> cellofellow: you lost your own private key? do you have the revoke key?
[07:13] <Boohbah> Xavierg2003: it is also a good idea to search for an existing bug before filing a new one
[07:13] <Xavierg2003> The backend took too much time to process the synchronous request - you need to fork!
[07:13] <losher> cg: if it's waiting for disk i/o, I think that will happen. No cure except for disk i/o to complete, or a reboot
[07:13] <Xavierg2003> Thats what it said
[07:13] <migo> i use my laptop windows media center with tv tuner  and use extender on my xbox360 to view the tv. now i am ready to use my ubuntu computer. anyone know of a software that will do what windows media center does so my xbox will reconize it/
[07:13] <cellofellow> raylu: revoke key?
[07:13] <Brando753> is there away to require a password to start firefox in ubuntu?
[07:13] <Xavierg2003> it said report that
[07:13] <Flannel> cellofellow: a revocation certificate.  Have you published your key anywhere?
[07:13] <cellofellow> raylu: hey, I kept my SSH key, but I guess I left my PGP key behind.
[07:13] <plouffe> I just upgraded to 9.04 and now flash isn't working at all
[07:13] <Xavierg2003> So do i just email that to them or.....
[07:13] <cg> losher: yes
[07:13] <cellofellow> Flannel: yeah, on the pgp.com keyserver and the ubuntu.com keyserver.
[07:13] <lstarnes> Brando753: I'm not sure.  Why?
[07:14] <RHorse> |lekarousar| output of ifconfig?
[07:14] <Brando753> so people dont go on it :P
[07:14] <Flannel> cellofellow: If you don't have a recovation certificate (assuming you lost your private key), those keys will be there (and useless) forever.
[07:14] <lstarnes> Brando753: you could uninstall it
[07:14] <cellofellow> drat
[07:14] <|lekarousar|> RHorse: only gives the lo
[07:14] <Brando753> sometimes its neccesary, hence the admin password
[07:14] <Flannel> cellofellow: That's why the first thing you do after generating a key is generate a recovation certificate ;)
[07:15] <Soren1> raylu, Swap = slower "RAM" on the HDD? does it need to be in the middle of the XP partition and the Ubuntu partition?
[07:15] <cellofellow> Flannel: ok
[07:15] <Flannel> cellofellow: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto
[07:15] <|lekarousar|> RHorse: I tried modifying the /etc/network/interfaces and it doesn't work
[07:15] <Leomar> indus: so i did what you told me i restarted the system in i can get lsusb: http://paste.ubuntu.com/176945/ ;  dmesg | grep sdb: http://paste.ubuntu.com/176946/ ; dmesg -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/176947/
[07:15] <indus> Leomar: hang on
[07:16] <klenix> Flanel: indus: leomar: sorry i'm a little bit confuse about this LTS upgrade. so What should i do?
[07:16] <RHorse> |lekarousar| output of lspci show ahything? Card recognized?
[07:16] <Leomar> ok
[07:16] <indus> klenix: why do you want to upgrade ? 8.04 giving any problems?
[07:16] <raylu> Soren1: it can be anywhere
[07:17] <|lekarousar|> RHorse: yes, both my ehternet controller and Network controller are installed
[07:17] <Soren1> raylu: and Ubuntu needs atleast 10GB to be happy?
[07:17] <Flannel> klenix: go to software sources, and on one of the tabs theres a spot where you can tell it how you want to upgrade.  You want to upgrade from 8.04 (LTS) to 8.10 (non-LTS).  The default in LTS releases is to only mention LTS upgrades (which, as of now is planned for 10.04).  So you need to tell it that you really do want to upgrade to a 'regular old release'.
[07:17] <raylu> Soren1: not of swap, but yes
[07:17] <raylu> Soren1: it's possible to install with less, but not recommended
[07:18] <Soren1> so if I want to run programs too, then I should have 20GB for ubuntu?
[07:18] <klenix> indus: Not big problem. but it has better broadband connection for me, here.
[07:18] <DaZ> Soren1: 10
[07:18] <RHorse> |lekarousar| try sudo ifconfig eth0
[07:18] <raylu> Soren1: programs usually won't take up more than 10gb. where do you plan on storing files?
[07:18] <Leomar> indus: busy /
[07:19] <Leomar> ﻿indus: busy ?
[07:19] <openttd> #webkit-efl
[07:19] <|lekarousar|> RHorse: says eth0: error fetching interface information: Device not found
[07:19] <Ethan``> hi, how do i make the number of desktops permanent on kde. It keeps reverting to the previous settings
[07:20] <RHorse> |lekarousar| try sudo ifconfig eth1
[07:20] <indus> Leomar: sorry was on another irc
[07:20] <Soren1> raylu: I have a 120GB HDD, but I am very very new to Ubuntu and only want to use it once and a while. I originally partitioned it as 110GB for XP and 10GB blank to be used for Ubuntu
[07:20] <raylu> |lekarousar|: you should revert your interfaces file. also, ifconfig -a and lspci -v may be of use
[07:20] <mamaro> i use my laptop windows media center with tv tuner  and use extender on my xbox360 to view the tv. now i am ready to use my ubuntu computer. anyone know of a software that will do what windows media center does so my xbox will reconize it/
[07:20] <indus> Leomar: use pastebin for output of this  sudo fdisk -l
[07:21] <klenix> flanel: so i need upgrade into 8.10 than 9.04, isn't it.
[07:21] <Soren1> raylu: but now I know I need 10GB  just to keep Ubuntu, alone, happy and I need a swap partition
[07:21] <raylu> Soren1: ok. 10GB should be fine. if you have large/many files, you can always just store them somewhere on the xp drive
[07:21] <raylu> Soren1: how much ram do you have?
[07:21] <Soren1> 1GB :(
[07:21] <DaZ> Soren1: you don't need swap
[07:21] <she_dyed> Brando753, iirc theres a firefox -profilemanager? see if it 's applicable
[07:22] <indus> klenix: Flannel:why should he go through 2 upgrades ?? huh
[07:22] <Leomar> ﻿Soren1: that's good i think
[07:22] <she_dyed> Brando753, am just not sure how restrictive it can be
[07:22] <raylu> Soren1: i'd recommend 1GB of swap and 9GB for /
[07:22] <indus> klenix: just download and install 9.04
[07:22] <DaZ> raylu: why does he need swap?
[07:22] <felix_> !pastebin
[07:22] <raylu> DaZ: for suspend
[07:22] <DaZ> with 1gb i'm using like 15megs of it
[07:22] <ottoshmi1t> quit
[07:22] <Leomar> indus: ok, i'm going to
[07:23] <raylu> DaZ: and it's not hard to use more than 1GB of memory
[07:23] <DaZ> well, it's hard enough for me ;
[07:23] <Soren1> why isn't there a way to put XP on one end of the HDD and Ubuntu on the other end and tell them to use parts in the middle as needed until they both fill it up
[07:23] <raylu> Soren1: you can... like i said, you can put files on the xp partition
[07:23] <|lekarousar|> RHorse: no luck
[07:23] <DaZ> Soren1: you can use windows partition in ubuntu
[07:23] <klenix> indus: ok i will. thanks.
[07:24] <DaZ> Soren1: it's laptop or desktop?
[07:24] <Flannel> klenix: Upgrading will be easier.
[07:24] <Ethan``> (repasting my question) how do i make the number of desktops permanent on kde. It keeps reverting to the previous settings
[07:24] <Soren1> so Ubuntu is more than happy to write on an XP partitioned space on the HDD
[07:24] <Flannel> indus: Because there's absolutely no reason to spend all that time reconfiguring everything, backing up your data, etc.
[07:24] <Soren1> laptop
[07:24] <Flannel> Ethan``: They may know more in #kubuntu
[07:24] <indus> Flannel: who says you need to reconfigure
[07:24] <raylu> Soren1: it's not more than happy, perse, but it'll do it :D
[07:24] <Ethan``> thanks
[07:24] <Soren1> Gateway 4520 ...............P O S
[07:24] <Flannel> indus: Erm, there's things called settings.
[07:25] <Leomar> indus: sudo fdisk -l => http://paste.ubuntu.com/176951/
[07:25] <Soren1> lol, raylu, and it can run programs from there too?
[07:25] <indus> Flannel:well a little time spent on that is better than having to sit through 2 upgrades
[07:25] <raylu> Soren1: not well, and not easily sometimes
[07:25] <Soren1> Laptop = Gateway 4520 ...............P O S
[07:25] <Soren1> raylu: meaning?
[07:26] <raylu> Soren1: windows binaries and linux binaries are not compatible with each other
[07:26] <Flannel> indus: Upgrades won't take that long this time of year, assuming he's on a reasonable sized connection.  He'll have to download a comperable amount anyway to be up to date on Jaunty.
[07:26] <indus> Flannel: ok ill let him decide now :)
[07:26]  * Soren1 looks at raylu as his brain explodes
[07:26] <darkmillian> Ummm hello
[07:26] <indus> Leomar: wait
[07:26] <raylu> Soren1: wine tries to emulate the windows api, but it's broken here and there and there are always issues running windows apps on not-windows (the filesystem is layed out completely differently, for example). don't worry about running windows apps for now
[07:27] <Ethan``> Flannel: I installed kde on ubuntu. so shouldnt i ask this question on here?
[07:27] <Soren1> that is the 3rd or fourth explosion tonight ;)
[07:27] <badfish69> if i install ubuntu inside windows is it going to run in a vm?
[07:27] <raylu> badfish69: if you install ubuntu inside a windows in a vm, it will run in a vm... your question doesn't make much sense
[07:28] <Flannel> Ethan``: #kubuntu knows more about KDE.  The only difference between Ubuntu and Kubuntu is the GUI (they're the same distro).  Obviously your question is KDE specific, and while you're more than welcome to ask your question here, you'll likely have more people who know more about it in #kubuntu
[07:28] <elliotf> Hello all..  I'm having some serious usability issues with ubuntu 8.04 and 9.04 when it comes to disk IO ruining interactivity.  Is this a known issue?  But #131094 does not seem to be getting any attention...
[07:28] <Soren1> why was I using ubiquity to set up my partitions and swap?
[07:28] <lstarnes> badfish69: using wubi?
[07:28] <Ethan``> lol okay
[07:28] <badfish69> yeah
[07:28] <darkmillian> Can any help me?
[07:28] <Ethan``> its just that no one answered me yet, on kubuntu
[07:28] <lstarnes> badfish69: I don't think that's an actual vm
[07:28] <Soren1> is it just a utility?
[07:29] <darkmillian> How can i install flash on 64 bit  ubuntu?
[07:29] <klenix> indus: if i do fresh install it is faster than upgrade, isn't it. But can i still keep my old application?
[07:29] <raylu> elliotf: actually, i have that problem too
[07:29] <elliotf> Soren1, badfish69: I believe it creates a dual-boot solution
[07:29] <indus> klenix: nooooooo
[07:29] <elliotf> raylu, it's really bad.. under very simple operations..
[07:29] <ottoshmi1t> H
[07:29] <indus> klenix: you lose all data with fresh upgrade
[07:29] <badfish69> i can give it a shot i guess
[07:29] <raylu> elliotf: i only have problems when something is reading tons of files
[07:29] <badfish69> worst case i have to reinstall w7
[07:29] <indus> klenix: it formats partition
[07:29] <indus> klenix: i think take flannels advice
[07:30] <raylu> elliotf: you can try ionice, but it didn't do much for me
[07:30] <raylu> badfish69: i don't recommend wubi
[07:30] <elliotf> copying six 1.5gb files across disks makes it grind to a halt
[07:30] <badfish69> why is that?
[07:30] <elliotf> raylu, that's not an option on my servers.
[07:30] <indus> klenix: that way everything you saved remains same
[07:30] <badfish69> oh dear
[07:30] <badfish69> ive already started
[07:30] <elliotf> raylu, have you seen the load average climb when the problem occurs?
[07:30] <raylu> elliotf: didn't pay much attention when it happened. i just tried to ionice it
[07:30] <raylu> elliotf: why isn't ionice an option?
[07:31] <Flannel> klenix: The difference in download sizes is likely something around 700MB.  (700MB more if you upgrade twice)
[07:31] <elliotf> raylu, I *really* don't want to ionice postgres.  :)
[07:31] <elliotf> raylu, it's a server, it should be able to use the CPU and disks at the same time.
[07:31] <raylu> elliotf: ah
[07:33] <Soren1> anyone out there with a lot of patience and good at hand holding wanna help me with increasing the size of the Ubuntu partition, from 10GB to 20GB and making a swap partition? I do not understand Ubuntu at all, and have limited knowledge of Win....
[07:33] <elliotf> raylu, ah, it looks like https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/131094 is getting some attention again
[07:33] <elliotf> yay!
[07:33] <raylu> Soren1: i still think you'd be fine with 10GB for now
[07:33] <Soren1> k
[07:34] <klenix> flannel: indus : if i do fresh install, i will use live cd, it's faster. But i'm worry about my previous setting and application.
[07:34] <indus> klenix: what application?
[07:34] <Soren1> raylu, are you the person described above? lol
[07:34] <Flannel> klenix: you'll overwrite all of them.
[07:34] <Flannel> klenix: Data too.
[07:34] <indus> klenix: yeah flannel is right . You lose all previous data
[07:35] <Ethan``> suspend doesnt seem to work on my system
[07:35] <Ethan``> any help please
[07:35] <RHorse> tonyyarusso did you get answered?
[07:35] <Soren1> lol, guess not
[07:35] <raylu> Soren1: not quite, sorry
[07:35] <Soren1> lol
[07:35] <Soren1> np
[07:36] <raylu> Soren1: but why do you feel 10GB isn't enough?
[07:36] <Siegfried> does anybody knows a console torrent client that supports udp?
[07:36] <|lekarousar|> RHorse: when i lshw -c network: i get unclaimed tags for my NICs. know how to fix that?
[07:36] <Soren1> raylu: I have no idea, I will leave it at whatever it is
[07:36] <klenix> indus: application i installed via terminal or synaptic,
[07:37] <Soren1> raylu: I am not fond of just meeting minimum requirments
[07:37] <oDesk> hello i'm on 9.10, can't use touchpad double click after latest upgrade!!!!
[07:37] <raylu> Soren1: you can increase it later
[07:37] <RHorse> |lekarousar| sorry,  not familiaar w/ that
[07:37] <Soren1> k
[07:38] <Ethan``> hello, how do i get suspend to work on my system. right now the monitor turns off, but cpu keeps running
[07:38] <raylu> Siegfried: deluge... sort of
[07:39] <indus> klenix: dont use a live cd
[07:39] <indus> klenix: upgrade from update-manager
[07:39] <Siegfried> raylu, oh thanks i completely forgot this one, i'll try!
[07:39] <Burlynn> ubuntu 8.10 new install on a laptop intel 945 chipset, normal visual effects, DarkRoom theme option, all my popup notifications are two colors, is this normal? the background is half tan half grey, does not look right
[07:39] <raylu> Siegfried: it's not exactly cli
[07:39] <indus> klenix: from 8.04 to 8.10 then to 9.04
[07:39] <raylu> Siegfried: wait, it does indeed have a console interface
[07:39] <indus> klenix: is that understood?
[07:40] <raylu> Siegfried: but you probably want to use either the gtk or web frontend. the torrent client runs as a daemon and you control it with a client
[07:40] <raylu> Siegfried: at the moment, i have the daemon running on a headless server and i connect to it with the gtk client from here
[07:41] <raylu> !suspend | Ethan``
[07:41] <raylu> :(
[07:41] <Tasbuntu> Hello all, I've been messing with my GRUB settings lately, and although I managed to get a splashscreen on it, the Ubuntu Bootup animation(the loading up bar?) seems to have broken. The bootup is now text based. Is there anyway to fix this?
[07:42] <raylu> Ethan``: suspend has always been sort of hit or miss. not much that you can do about it that i know of
[07:42] <raylu> Tasbuntu: show us the boot line?
[07:42] <Tasbuntu> the boot line? o:
[07:42] <Tasbuntu> Oh dear, I think I stepped into uncharted territory yet again xD; What is the boot line?
[07:43] <barbarian_sargon> hello everyone
[07:43] <klenix> Flannel: indus: if i do with live cd will be faster but i will lost all my previous setting and application. With normal upgrade will be longer for me but save my setting.
[07:43] <Flannel> klenix: I'm not sure an upgrade will really take that much longer.
[07:43] <Tasbuntu> More specifically, I guess I should ask how do I GET to the bootline?
[07:44] <Flannel> klenix: Not that I time them in my spare time.  But the rest of it is correct.  With a reinstall, you get a fresh system, as if nothing had been there before.  With an upgrade, you keep your settings, the other programs you install, your files, etc.
[07:44] <Soren1> I am trying a Dual Boot install...............I am at PreparePartitions........... I see: Device=/dev/sda1 ...........Device:/dev/sda1 Type:ntfs Size:120GB Used 26GB............Device:freespace 11GB
[07:44] <raylu> Tasbuntu: the line that starts with "kernel" is what i meant
[07:44] <RHorse> Tasbuntu F6 when tthe grub menu appears.
[07:44] <barbarian_sargon> yeah, when I upgraded to 9.04, I didn't lose any files or settings
[07:44] <Tasbuntu> Allright. So I go do that, and how do I get you the results exactly?
[07:45] <Tasbuntu> It just copies the whole thing when I do F6?
[07:45] <barbarian_sargon> by that I mean, I upgraded with the upgrade manager
[07:45] <raylu> Tasbuntu: no.. just get it out of your menu.lst
[07:45] <barbarian_sargon> update*
[07:45] <barbarian_sargon> sorry
[07:45] <klenix> Flannel : indus : yes, i 'll  use upgrade. thanks for advice.
[07:45] <Tasbuntu> oh. Allright
[07:46] <chris_> can i please have the name of the best program to extract sequential .rar files (jaunty)
[07:46] <``y7> where can i go into ubuntu to make sure the system isn't going to shutdown or go into sleep mode after x minutes of idle time?
[07:46] <raylu> Burlynn: a screenshot may help
[07:46] <barbarian_sargon> chris, I think ark will work
[07:46] <Ethan``> taylu : suspend used to work fine till i upgraded something
[07:47] <Ethan``> raylu*
[07:47] <raylu> Ethan``: the kernel. try an older version of it
[07:47] <chris_> cool thanks, i haven't installed linux in a while lol, a little rusty..
[07:47] <Ethan``> lool
[07:47] <Tasbuntu> http://pastebin.com/f74e4828a
[07:47] <Tasbuntu>  Here you go guys. Sorry about being so dense, I'm really just learning Ubuntu as I go along xD;
[07:47] <Ethan``> can i get it to work again...do you know anythin
[07:47] <raylu> Ethan``: you probably still have it, actually. aptitude search linux-image
[07:47] <raylu> Ethan``: or ls /boot
[07:48] <raylu> Tasbuntu: do you need vga=795 to boot?
[07:48] <Soren1> brb
[07:49] <Tasbuntu> I...have no idea, frankly. I'm still pretty much lost in terms of coding and the terminal.
[07:50] <Ethan``> thanks, raylu
[07:50] <csaba> how can I play chess over a network?
[07:50] <Tasbuntu> oh, splash vga=795
[07:50] <Tasbuntu> I think that's the splash page for the main menu
[07:50] <csaba> when I click on "Network game" I get a dialog saying profile: disconnected
[07:51] <Tasbuntu> I'm running a Triple boot system, so Grub automatically boots into the menu, hence the splash page.
[07:51] <raylu> Tasbuntu: by default, you only have splash and quiet
[07:51] <raylu> Tasbuntu: so i assume you added vga=795 yourself
[07:52] <tlarson> how do you see what video driver you're using in 9.04? xorg.conf doesn't contain anything useful
[07:52] <Tasbuntu> Well, I don't recall having personally opened the menu.lst and edited THIS, but I used start-up manager to customize the grub menu, so possibly that could have done it, yes
[07:52] <Soren1> I am trying a Dual Boot install...............I am at PreparePartitions........... Device=/dev/sda1 ...........Device:/dev/sda1 Type:ntfs Size:120GB Used 26GB............Device:freespace 11GB................. what is the next step
[07:52] <raylu> tlarson: glxinfo or xdpyinfo may be of help
[07:52] <raylu> Tasbuntu: i'd take out vga=795 from defoptions and then run "sudo update-grub"
[07:53] <Tasbuntu> Allright, I'll try that, thank you
[07:53] <Tasbuntu> what about initrd, though?
[07:53] <raylu> Tasbuntu: what about it?
[07:53] <Tasbuntu> Well, you said only splash and quiet were there by default, didn't you?
[07:54] <raylu> Tasbuntu: initrd is on its own line
[07:54] <Tasbuntu> Ah, allright O:
[07:54] <Tasbuntu> Thank you
[07:54] <raylu> Tasbuntu: that specifies the strange strange ramfs thingy
[07:54] <raylu> which i have yet to understand
[07:54] <Tasbuntu> xD' Then I clearly have no hopes of that yet
[07:54] <KitNezumi> I'm installing netbook remix via GUI on an Eee 1000 HE. I shortened the Windows partition as well as the backup partition to make room for the upcoming Ubuntu partition. However, now I'm stuck with two seperate chunks of unpartitioned space marked "unusable." I'm kind of at a loss of what I should do next.
[07:55] <Tasbuntu> I'll go try what you said, thank you :3
[07:55] <Soren1> is there a dual boot channel that would be better to go to?
[07:56] <raylu> Soren1: not really
[07:56] <nibsa1242> I have a user that likes to keep many folders open in Nautilus, including folders where she is downloading files with  Bit Torrent. This causes Nautilus to constantly update the thumbnails and use 60% CPU power. How can I set Nautilus not to update thumbnails unless user presses refresh?
[07:56] <raylu> KitNezumi: what says its unusable?
[07:56] <Soren1> raylu: ok, I'll check back later for help
[07:56] <KitNezumi> raylu: the term "unusable" appears under the device column for the two presumably now-empty spaces
[07:57] <raylu> Soren1: the next step is to create a 1gb swap and 10gb ext3 partition. isn't there na option to do that automatically?
[07:57] <raylu> KitNezumi: in the installer?
[07:57] <tlarson> raylu: do you think that if the [OpenGL version string] is "1.4 Mesa 7.4
[07:57] <cirolinux> Salve
[07:57] <KitNezumi> raylu: yes, in the installer
[07:57] <tlarson> raylu: would that mean that i'm running the generic mesa drivers?
[07:58] <barbarian_sargon> hey guys, does anyone know a script for installing gtk gnutella through terminal? I have tried sudo apt get install gtk gnutella, and I have tried to install it through add or remove programs, but its always the old version, and it will not work. before I re-installed ubuntu, my friend helped me install it, he told me step by step the script
[07:58] <barbarian_sargon> I was just wondering if anyone else knew
[07:58] <raylu> KitNezumi: this is the netbook installer right? you can't really run any apps, can you?
[07:59] <raylu> tlarson: i have no idea, sorry. try grepping for driver names. also, if you haven't modified your xorg.conf, X -configure may be revealing
[07:59] <tlarson> raylu: thanks
[07:59] <KitNezumi> raylu: i'm not sure if i'm understanding you correctly. this is the installer that i ran from the desktop when running URN in liveCD mode
[08:00] <raylu> KitNezumi: urn = ?
[08:00] <KitNezumi> raylu: sorry. Ubuntu Netbook Remix (got the acronym wrong). I did manage to run some applications in LiveCD mode
[08:00] <e-1> barbarian_sargon, try #gtk-gnutella
[08:00] <barbarian_sargon> ok, thanks
[08:00] <raylu> KitNezumi: oh. my only experience with it has been a friend running the installer. i do remember the other option, but we never tried it
[08:01] <raylu> KitNezumi: i'd close the installer and run "gksu gparted"
[08:01] <plaseo> how to make the folders in places display as a menu?
[08:01] <raylu> KitNezumi: i never really liked the installer's partitioner
[08:01] <KitNezumi> raylu: i'll give it a shot. thank you.
[08:02] <raylu> nibsa1242: you can disable thumbnails in the preferences, apparently
[08:02] <Tasbuntu> O: Well, I'm back
[08:03] <Tasbuntu> Raylu, thanks for the tip, deleting that line didnt hurt anything so it removed some useless coding from Grub, however it didn't fix my problem.
[08:03] <nibsa1242> raylu the thumbnails would be ok, but I don't see why it needs to constantly update them and heat up the computer and kill the performance
[08:04] <plaseo> ?
[08:04] <raylu> nibsa1242: you could run nautilus with a high nice. but things like that are the reason i avoid guis :P
[08:04] <raylu> Tasbuntu: er... show me your menu.lst now?
[08:05] <barbarian_sargon> so is anyone running the new 9.04?
[08:05] <Tasbuntu> I am. It runs pretty much fine on my system.
[08:05] <Tasbuntu> http://pastebin.com/f2a5d1872
[08:06] <barbarian_sargon> yeah, I like it
[08:06] <Tasbuntu> Except when I screw up ie right now
[08:06] <nibsa1242> raylu: it already runs at nice 19 on my system, but its constant running then causes massive amounts of swapping and slow down.
[08:06] <barbarian_sargon> I kinda want 8.04 back on here, but my cd drive wont read burnt or blank discs for some reason
[08:06] <Tasbuntu> Also raylu, pastebin link is back up there. http://pastebin.com/f2a5d1872
[08:06] <Tasbuntu> repost
[08:06] <barbarian_sargon> lol, I know exactly what you mean tasbuntu
[08:07] <raylu> nibsa1242: that sounds related to elliotf's issue earlier.
[08:07] <nibsa1242> raylu: its not my issue... I just use the terminal, but one of the users in my house is having this issue because she won't close nautilus windows.
[08:07] <zethero1> installed Ubuntu Jaunty on my T30 Thinkpad and now have no sound
[08:07] <Tasbuntu> xD Oh, I rather enjoy the whole mess. Plus I'm learning a bit more pretty much all the time.
[08:07] <barbarian_sargon> zethero1, you might need oem audo drivers
[08:07] <hskill> how do i install all the C programming man pages?
[08:08] <plaseo> how to make the folders in places display as a menu?
[08:08] <hskill> i dont even have a man page for malloc()
[08:08] <cyberjorge> does ubuntu 8.10 support the ttyS3 by default?
[08:08] <raylu> Tasbuntu: hrm. no idea then. by the way, the next time the kernel gets upgraded, update-grub is going to be run and vga=795 will be added back in because you didn't remove it from defoptions
[08:08] <barbarian_sargon> I have a friend who is great with linux, he has been teaching me a little bit here and there
[08:08] <Tasbuntu> O; How do I update that?
[08:08] <raylu> hskill: manpages-posix-dev
[08:08] <raylu> Tasbuntu: look for defoptions in menu.lst
[08:08] <Tasbuntu> Allright
[08:09] <Tasbuntu> By the way, is the bootup animation screen even related to Grub?
[08:09] <raylu> Tasbuntu: not really
[08:09] <zethero1> ﻿barbarian_sargon: why? it was working perfectly in 7.10
[08:09] <ziroday> Tasbuntu: that's usplash
[08:09] <Tasbuntu> I'm talking about the animations with the bars that fill up and empty out on bootup/shutdown
[08:09] <Tasbuntu> Well, that's been my problem all along, so no wonder xD;
[08:09] <raylu> zethero1: pulseaudio has been introduced since then
[08:09] <hskill> raylu what about just 'manpages-dev'?
[08:09] <dyf> hello.. how do i control which processes start up when i boot ubuntu?
[08:10] <raylu> dyf: update-rc.d
[08:10] <nibsa1242> raylu: ok so I told it to only show thumbnails of files less than 100kb, testing to see if it'll listen
[08:10] <barbarian_sargon> I am not sure zethero1, I was just making a suggestion. I would like to help you further, but alas, I am but a learner myself
[08:10] <sleepy_cat> i wanted some help with XIRR and IRR is there a community here that can help me with that ?
[08:10] <Tasbuntu> So, how do I edit usplash settings?
[08:10] <drewlahooz> dyf: Try  System>Pref>Startup Applications
[08:10] <Tasbuntu> Or reset usplash to default?
[08:10] <hermanChess> How can I effectively replace swfdec with the non free plugin? I don't like how it is displayed, and the volume bar doesn't work on videos.
[08:10] <raylu> hskill: manpages-posix-dev suggests it, so it should pull it in
[08:10] <hermanChess> In firefox....
[08:11] <raylu> hskill: but yeah, you actually want manpages-dev
[08:11] <nibsa1242> raylu: nope, stupid thing is still indexing >300MB files
[08:11] <plaseo> dyf: Install ubuntu tweak
[08:11] <zethero1> ﻿raylu: argh
[08:11] <dyf> drewlahooz: i'm on fluxbox, do you know the command to start that application?
[08:12] <dyf> plaseo: the name sounds scary
[08:12] <nibsa1242> raylu: ok turned off thumnails, now it seems ok
[08:12] <dyf> i don't wanna mess up my system, just turn off a few processes at start up
[08:12] <raylu> nibsa1242: <100k didn't work?
[08:12] <drewlahooz> dyf: No, I'm sorry
[08:12] <raylu> dyf: login or bootup?
[08:12] <plaseo> dyf: just moved from windows to ubuntu not scary at all, its a great program with many functions
[08:12] <nibsa1242> raylu: no, it didn't listen OR was polling the files to see how large they were
[08:12] <Tasbuntu> Uh, guys, if I install splashy will it uninstall usplash completely or do I get to choose between the two?
[08:12] <dyf> raylu: boot up, like i wanna turn of cups cuz i don't have a printer
[08:13] <cyberjorge> does ubuntu 8.10 support the ttys4 (=COM5) by default?
[08:13] <dyf> i wanna make my system lighter basically
[08:13] <raylu> dyf: update-rc.d -f cupsd remove
[08:13] <nibsa1242> raylu: remember we are talking about a Bit Torrent download folder, so the files are constantly changing in size as they grow
[08:13] <dyf> raylu: can i list what i can remove with update-rc.d?
[08:13] <raylu> nibsa1242: they shouldn't. good clients will pre-allocate
[08:14] <raylu> dyf: ls /etc/init.d
[08:14] <dyf> raylu: cool, thanks
[08:14] <raylu> dyf: i'm not sure the command i gave you was entirely correct; not in ubuntu at the moment
[08:14] <barbarian_sargon> is ubuntu 7.04 and 7.10 lts?
[08:14] <cyberjorge> does ubuntu 8.10 support the "ttys4 (=COM5)" by default?
[08:14] <nibsa1242> raylu: that would be nice, but transmission doesn't do it that way... and that is what is on her computer
[08:14] <raylu> dyf: but the manpage/help is short
[08:14] <raylu> nibsa1242: transmission is... kinda fail
[08:15] <plaseo> how to make the folders in places display as a menu?
[08:15] <raylu> barbarian_sargon: nope. sorry
[08:15] <barbarian_sargon> I was just wondering
[08:15] <barbarian_sargon> so 8.04 is pretty much the only lts version out right now?
[08:15] <nibsa1242> raylu: its the default app, that is what she is using... I get get something else and install it, for the future.
[08:15] <raylu> barbarian_sargon: i believe there's only ever one lts out
[08:15] <zethero1> ﻿raylu: but I still see ALSA here ...
[08:15] <raylu> zethero1: yep.
[08:16] <barbarian_sargon> when was 7.04 and 7.10 released?
[08:16] <raylu> zethero1: my understanding is pulseaudio->alsa->...stuff
[08:16] <cyberjorge> ok i'll change my question:
[08:16] <raylu> barbarian_sargon: 04/07 and 10/07, of course
[08:16] <barbarian_sargon> ok. I was just wondering
[08:16] <cyberjorge> how do I re-compile kernel to support multi-com-port including COM 5?
[08:16] <barbarian_sargon> I get it now
[08:17] <raylu> !kernel | cyberjorge
[08:17] <barbarian_sargon> im a noobie
[08:17] <raylu> barbarian_sargon: it's ok. i think the version numbering is horrible and confusing
[08:17] <cyberjorge> raylu: thanks for that, and for the warning, but this is my only chance to make my device to run
[08:18] <raylu> cyberjorge: good luck
[08:18] <Tasbuntu> Uh, how do I install Splashy?
[08:18] <cyberjorge> raylu: by the way do you have an idea if "ttys4 (=COM5)" is supported by default in 8.10
[08:18] <raylu> Tasbuntu: usplash?
[08:18] <raylu> cyberjorge: no idea, sorry :P
[08:18] <ziroday> Tasbuntu: why do you want splashy?
[08:18] <cyberjorge> :(
[08:19] <nebundelegat_> ciao all
[08:19] <sleepy_cat> anyone can help me with XIRR vs IRR methods and how to calculate them i
[08:19] <Tasbuntu> Well, you know the uSplash bar thing when Ubuntu is booting up?
[08:19] <nibsa1242> raylu: what do you think of deluge? I think I used that in the past but can't remember... too many BT clients
[08:19] <Tasbuntu> Well, that broke and now the bootup is text based for some reason.
[08:20] <ziroday> Tasbuntu: okay, installing splashy isn't going to fix that
[08:20] <raylu> nibsa1242: i use it currently :D
[08:20] <Tasbuntu> O:
[08:20] <Tasbuntu> Damn
[08:20] <Tasbuntu> Dont suppose you know what would?
[08:20] <raylu> nibsa1242: but i have a machine that runs all the time and torrents. i use this machine to control it, so deluge fits my needs
[08:20] <ziroday> Tasbuntu: haha, I don't sorry :)
[08:20] <barbarian_sargon> do you guys call windows winblows?
[08:20] <ziroday> barbarian_sargon: no
[08:20] <Tasbuntu> 'Daw
[08:20] <barbarian_sargon> my friend who taught me about ubuntu does
[08:21] <raylu> nibsa1242: also, it sorts torrents by tracker domain, something nothing else does. transmission sorts them the worst of all, though
[08:21] <Tasbuntu> Barbarian, it's called fanaticism. It's a common basis people use for not having to think.
[08:21] <raylu> Tasbuntu: thinking is overrated
[08:22] <Tasbuntu> Maybe so
[08:22] <Tasbuntu> Anyway; I don't suppose anyone does know how to fix the bootup animations?
[08:22] <qubits> lolcopter
[08:23] <qubits> penguin pride
[08:23] <ziroday> qubits: can we help you with something?
[08:23] <plaseo> how to make the folders in places display as a menu?
[08:23] <qubits> Sure man
[08:23] <qubits> You can bring back my titlebars
[08:24] <ziroday> plaseo: open the file manager, drag the folder you want onto the places area
[08:24] <tecky> less is more, but more is more than more is, so more is less than less, so use more less if you want less more
[08:24] <ziroday> qubits: do metacity --replace
[08:24] <qubits> No effect
[08:24] <ziroday> tecky: thank you for that, #ubuntu-offtopic for other such insights :)
[08:24] <ziroday> qubits: errors
[08:24] <plaseo> folders are there that i want, i want them to display subfolders in a menu tree
[08:25] <Zephryos> Ello peoples, need some help with my laptop if anyone is avaliable and wanting to assist.
[08:25] <ziroday> plaseo: ah, you can't do that sorry
[08:25] <ziroday> Zephryos: sure! Please just explain whats not working :)
[08:25] <Tasbuntu> Uh, so, can I ask if there's a channel specifically for Ubuntu for Mac users? Or a channel for Grub or other bootup programs?
[08:26] <plaseo> ziroday: thank you, its on my wish list
[08:26] <raylu> !mac
[08:26] <KitNezumi> raylu: thank you for recommending gparted. I managed to arrange my partitions exactly as needed easily and with no fuss at all.
[08:26] <raylu> ...what..
[08:26] <raylu> KitNezumi: :D
[08:26] <ziroday> Tasbuntu: neither that I know of, but you can browse help.ubuntu.com or ubuntuforums.org whilst you wait
[08:26] <Tasbuntu> xD, well! Thanks, Raylu. Also, allright, thank you
[08:27] <NvidiaUser> Tasbuntu There is a Linux Channel at #linux
[08:27] <Tasbuntu> ..wha?
[08:27] <ziroday> plaseo: you can create an idea at brainstorm.ubuntu.com
[08:27] <NvidiaUser> On IRC
[08:27] <nebundelegat_> care vb romaneste aici:D
[08:27] <Tasbuntu> Yes, but, how does that apply to Macs specifically, or Bootup programs?
[08:27] <jetsaredim> is there a way to adjust the audio track offset in totem?
[08:27] <nebundelegat_> care vb romaneste aici:D
[08:27] <NvidiaUser> Tasubuntu they may be able to help more with grub specifically.
[08:28] <Tasbuntu> Oh, allright. Thank you, Nvidia! xD
[08:28] <NvidiaUser> Tasubuntu or know of more channels NP :)
[08:28] <barbarian_sargon> I am gonna have to start coming in here from now on. I wanna learn how to use ubuntu more. I mean, I know how to use it, I would like to learn how to compile/program more
[08:28] <ziroday> Tasbuntu: can you please pastebin you're /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:28] <barbarian_sargon> I am joining the military in 4 months, and it would give me something to do until then
[08:29] <Zephryos> Alright, tiny bit o' back story and the condition of the laptop... I'm just wanting to use the laptop for IM's and doing my college assignments around the house. The laptop is a Compaq Presario 2500 (2003), the system seems to "fry" HD's and it has no internal CD-Rom drive nor floppeh. I'm wanting to make this be able to boot off my 2GB USB Drive. Right now I have an external CD Drive which I used to load up Ubuntu 9.04. Questi
[08:29] <ziroday> barbarian_sargon: compiling and programming are two very different things :)
[08:29] <raylu> !it | nebundelegat_
[08:29] <ziroday> Zephryos: you're question got cut off
[08:29] <raylu> barbarian_sargon: more? what can you code in now? also, this isn't really the place to learn to code
[08:29] <barbarian_sargon> ziroday: ok, I just mean't I would like to learn how to program and compile
[08:30] <Zephryos> Nope it didn't, I just forgot to put a ? instead of a .  <_< 2:30AM here :P
[08:30] <barbarian_sargon> well, not really code raylu, I can compile, that's about it
[08:30] <ziroday> barbarian_sargon: sure, we can help you with both. If you want to program python is a good starting language. For compiling see
[08:30] <ziroday> !compile | barbarian_sargon see
[08:30] <Colonel_Bear> I have 8.04
[08:30] <aaditya> !ot
[08:30] <raylu> barbarian_sargon: though python was the last language i learned, others have recommend that you use python as your first programming language
[08:30] <Colonel_Bear> and want to upgrade
[08:31] <raylu> but yeah, this is offtopic
[08:31] <barbarian_sargon> ok, thanks raylu
[08:31] <parapanghelescu> Hi there fellows ......I'll ask you again - does someone know an editor of pdf files ? - smth like Acrobat for linux ????
[08:31] <ziroday> Zephryos: you're question got cut off, can you repeat everything below I used to load up Ubuntu 9.04. Questi please
[08:31] <Colonel_Bear>  I have 8.04 and want to upgrade, but when I go to update manager it does not appear
[08:31] <Zephryos> Question is, how can I make it to where I can run it without having to take my big arse external drive around with me and just use the 2GB USB Drive?
[08:31] <jetsaredim> parapanghelescu: do you mean a pdf creator or something to edit already created pdfs?
[08:31] <Debolaz> Turns out I was able to solve most of my graphics performance issues with 9.04 by downgrading the nvidia driver from 180 to 173.
[08:31] <gharz> guys i have 1 folder and inside the folder i've got 100 folders... and inside this 100 folders i have file names that start with dot (.)... how do i recursively delete this files with dot? these files with dot are not important. please help
[08:32] <ziroday> Colonel_Bear: go to Software Sources > Updates > Show new distribution releases > Normal releases
[08:32] <parapanghelescu> jetsaredim > to edit smth is created yes,
[08:32] <parapanghelescu> used pdfedit .....but with no great luck ...:(
[08:32] <Viking667> parapanghelescu: you may be out of luck.
[08:32] <ziroday> Zephryos: use the USB startup disk creator
[08:32] <Viking667> Even Acrobat actually works with source files, then builds that into a pdf.
[08:32] <jetsaredim> parapanghelescu: not sure of anything like that - unless there are some online tools
[08:33] <gharz> any one?
[08:33] <parapanghelescu> Viking; jetsaredim > hmmmmm so what should I do ? use windows instead ???
[08:34] <M3nelvagor> anybody here know something about partitioning with ubuntu?
[08:34] <Viking667> parapanghelescu: you could perhaps use your legally purchased copy of Acrobat under wine or crossover-office.
[08:34] <ajhtiredwolf> gharz, something along the lines of rm .* -r i would assume
[08:34] <Colonel_Bear> thank you
[08:34] <qubits> its not doing anything
[08:34] <cyberjorge> is "#cat /proc/tty/driver/serial" a command in the terminal?
[08:34] <Zephryos> There any specific webpage that will have what I need?
[08:34] <Viking667> without the #, yes.
[08:35] <ct529> hi everybody .... is it possible to run Mac software under ubuntu?
[08:35] <cyberjorge> thanks Viking667
[08:35] <NvidiaUser>  First, I'd like to know if there's an iRC channel that deals with Ubuntu on Macs specifically, and secondly, I need some help with the bootup and shutdown animations in Ubuntu: Basically I've managed to kill them both, so now both bootup and shutdown are text based. I'd like to know if there's a way to fix this. I'm running Ubuntu Jaunty, Grub and Usplash.
[08:35] <parapanghelescu> but ....wine is the emulator right ? I'll install wine, install Windows, legal copy, then install Adobe Acrobat
[08:35] <Viking667> parapanghelescu: ah, no.
[08:35] <ziroday> NvidiaUser: ?
[08:35] <Viking667> If you're going to install legal copy of Windows, then you ACTUALLY want VMware or Virtualbox.
[08:35] <NvidiaUser> Idk it's for Tasubuntu
[08:35] <ziroday> NvidiaUser: why are you repasting what other people have said?
[08:35] <parapanghelescu> viking > cool
[08:35] <Tasbuntu> Oh, thanks Nvidia o:
[08:36] <ziroday> NvidiaUser: please don't do that
[08:36] <ajhtiredwolf> parapanghelescu, wine will emulate windows programs, but why do you need to install acrobat reader? there are plenty of much better pdf reader programs for linux
[08:36] <Tasbuntu> He's helping me, actually
[08:36] <sleepy_cat> ca n someone help me with IIR and XIRR ?
[08:36] <NvidiaUser> ziroday oh I thought he didn't say that sorry ;O
[08:36] <Viking667> parapanghelescu: virtualbox is free, and VMware provide VMware server for free.
[08:36] <ajhtiredwolf> parapanghelescu, acrobat reader is not recommended to be used by windows users either as it is a huge security hole for viruses
[08:36] <ziroday> Tasbuntu: I asked before if you could pastebin your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:36] <Viking667> ajhtiredwolf: he actually wants to use Acrobat, not just the reader.
[08:36] <Tasbuntu> I did, hang on, lemme do it again
[08:36] <sleepy_cat> in financial calculations.. i want to know whats the difference between both of them and how to go about them ?
[08:36] <ziroday> Tasbuntu: and please address, that way I'm not going to miss it :)
[08:37] <parapanghelescu> ajhtiredwolf > so wine provides already the medium ....emulation for windows  ....I need to write/modify pdf files ....
[08:37] <shengton> Where's the Multimedia Systems Selector in Xubuntu?
[08:37] <ziroday> sleepy_cat: we can't help you with that here
[08:37] <ziroday> shengton: ask in #xubuntu
[08:37] <Tasbuntu> ziroday: http://pastebin.com/f78b81c2d
[08:37] <cyberjorge> is it safe to add "8250.nr_uarts=6" to end of the kernel command line in /boot/grub/menu.list file to add new port?
[08:37] <Viking667> parapanghelescu: wine provides SOME of the DLL calls that programs make under Windows.
[08:37] <Tasbuntu> Sorry and thanks xD
[08:37] <sleepy_cat> ziroday:  any idea if there in a comm on IRC which can ?
[08:37] <v_a_n> v_a_n
[08:37] <Tasbuntu> Also, thanks again Nvidiauser, you've been amazingly helpful
[08:37] <parapanghelescu> viking > know the programs / already worked with VirtualBOX - looks kinda' neat and it's light ....
[08:37] <ziroday> sleepy_cat: nope
[08:38] <M3nelvagor> So I deleted the final 28 GB partition of windows on my laptop. Now I want to use it as an extra partition where I can put my data for my thesis on. But when I use the partition editor and delete + make new one, it doesn't load automatically and is only for root. Any help?
[08:38] <sleepy_cat> oh ok
[08:38] <ajhtiredwolf> parapanghelescu, if you find a program that will not install within ubuntu you can emulate an operating system as a guest os ( like xp ) through virtualbox
[08:38] <cyberjorge> Viking667: got an idea?
[08:38] <parapanghelescu> Viking > understand ....is wine under repository or Ubuntu 9.04 ???
[08:38] <Viking667> cyberjorge: no idea, sorry.
[08:38] <Viking667> parapanghelescu: I _think_ it's in multiverse.
[08:38] <NvidiaUser> Tasubuntu: I have? :O
[08:38] <Viking667> Not sure, though.
[08:38] <ziroday> Tasbuntu: on line 138 can you append the word splash please
[08:38] <cyberjorge> hmmm...
[08:39] <Viking667> Tasbuntu: ... if splash isn't already there
[08:39] <Tasbuntu> How do I go about doing that?
[08:39] <parapanghelescu> ajhtiredwolf> know that but .....I'm kinda stressed out about the space on "/" ...I have only 300 Mb of free space ......
[08:39] <Viking667> Tasbuntu: you use an editor.
[08:39] <ziroday> !fstab | M3nelvagor add it here to have it mounted automatically at boot
[08:39] <ziroday> Tasbuntu: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:39] <Viking667> parapanghelescu: ouch. That's not a lot of space any more.
[08:40] <ajhtiredwolf> parapanghelescu, check the site winhq.com and look in the appdb ( application database) to see if that program runs well with your current distribution under wine
[08:40] <ziroday> Zephryos: please don't pm :). The USB creator is shipped by default in 8.10 and above
[08:40] <ct529> hi everybody .... is it possible to run Mac software under ubuntu?
[08:40] <ajhtiredwolf> parapanghelescu, there you can also find suggestions to get it running properly if it is possible
[08:40] <nmvictor>  M3nelvagor: why do you want it to load automatically,once its a new partion other than root(/) and swap then it cant load automatically.make a logical drive out of it
[08:40] <NvidiaUser> Tasubuntu: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:40] <parapanghelescu> ajhtiredwolf > cool thanks for the tip bro'
[08:40] <ajhtiredwolf> parapanghelescu, de nada
[08:40] <|lekarousar|> how do i find which package is broken?
[08:41] <Tasbuntu> Allright, I'm here
[08:41] <parapanghelescu> viking ....> I forgot the command for checking the free space on my partitions ? do you know-it ??
[08:41] <NvidiaUser> Tasubuntu just add a space after that line and type splash
[08:41] <Viking667> |lekarousar|: I've no idea what on earth "unclaimed dags" means.
[08:41] <Viking667> df
[08:41] <Tasbuntu> Allright
[08:41] <farciarz84> hi
[08:41] <Viking667> parapanghelescu: df
[08:41] <magnetron> Hi! i get a security warning when trying to install the package "crank" from the official repo, looks like the package is unsigned. is this normal?
[08:41] <farciarz84> where can I put my aliases?
[08:41] <nmvictor> farciarz84: hi
[08:42] <Tasbuntu> root=UUID=f27d96f7-7fd5-4e32-9e7d-97a3709edffd ro quiet
[08:42] <Tasbuntu> splash
[08:42] <Tasbuntu> initrd		/boot/initrd.img-2.6.28-11-generic
[08:42] <Tasbuntu> like this?
[08:42] <FloodBot2> Tasbuntu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:42] <M3nelvagor> nmvictor: don't now what you mean. I just formated it to ext4 and went on from that point :-)
[08:42] <nmvictor> magnetron: whats the message of the warning
[08:42] <|lekarousar|> Tasbuntu: that wont' work on lilo
[08:42] <Viking667> Tasbuntu: no... root=UUID=f27d96f7-7fd5-4e32-9e7d-97a3709edffd ro quiet splash
[08:42] <Zephryos> ziroday: Eh sorry, 2nd time using irc... where bouts? I have the live disc goign and the USB drive is connected. Do I do a search or?
[08:42] <ziroday> Tasbuntu: no, append the word splash to line 138 (the kernel line) just after quiet
[08:42] <Tasbuntu> Ah, allright
[08:42] <NvidiaUser> Tasubuntu the end should be: quiet splash
[08:43] <ziroday> Zephryos: System > Administration > USB Disk Creator (and no worries)
[08:43] <farciarz84> where is a login script in ubuntu?
[08:43]  * Viking667 removes splash from his systems. That way he can peruse kernel messages to see if there are issues on bootup.
[08:43] <ajhtiredwolf> magnetron, ziroday that application has big problems in 9.04
[08:43] <nmvictor> M3nelvagor:please let me PM you on this
[08:43] <farciarz84> sth like bash_profile or .profile
[08:43] <Viking667> farciarz84: check out in /etc/
[08:43] <Tasbuntu> there, done
[08:43] <ziroday> ajhtiredwolf: pardon?
[08:43] <M3nelvagor> nmvictor: ok
[08:43] <Viking667> farciarz84: there's /etc/rc.d
[08:43] <magnetron> nmvictor: it's a message from aptitude in Swedish. it says the package is "not authenticated"
[08:43] <ziroday> Tasbuntu: save the file and reboot
[08:43] <farciarz84> tnx
[08:43] <Tasbuntu> Allright, thank you
[08:44] <ajhtiredwolf> ziroday, usb disk creator is not functioning well in ubuntu 9.04
[08:44] <magnetron> ajhtiredwolf: ok, do you know any alternative crypto puzzle solver?
[08:44] <ziroday> ajhtiredwolf: works fine here
[08:44] <parapanghelescu> viking > looks like the / has only 2% free space >>> what can I do to free some space ???
[08:44] <bc> Viking667: I read a book once called "How I gave up reading init messages and learned to love the boot splash" -- I give it 5 stars
[08:44] <Zephryos> I feel like this is going to be a world of headaches and confusion lol, just cuz Microsofts name isnt stamped all over everything :- | is that normal?
[08:44] <ajhtiredwolf> ziroday, unetbootin is a better choice for most 9.04 users rigt now
[08:44] <Viking667> bc: no doubt written by the guy who wrote the Windows boot animation
[08:45] <ajhtiredwolf> magnetron, sorry that messages was supposed to go to someone else :P
[08:45] <ajhtiredwolf> magnetron, what was your question?
[08:45] <bc> Viking667: lol. In all seriousness though, unless you suspect something is wrong, I wouldn't bother. unless you know _everything_, chances are it'll just make you go bald.
[08:45] <ziroday> Zephryos: okay, sorry. There are multiple ways to get Ubuntu to run off a thumb drive. One of those is the USB Startup Disk Creator which is installed by default, another one is unetbootin. You can use whichever one you want
[08:45] <[DeViL_KiLLs]> how to stop drop shadow effect on gnome minimize?
[08:45] <magnetron> ajhtiredwolf: i get a security warning when trying to install the package "crank" from the official repo, looks like the package is unsigned. is this normal?
[08:45] <Burlynn> anyone running an ati 3200 okay under jaunty with the catalyst drivers?
[08:45] <[DeViL_KiLLs]> please help me
[08:45] <nmvictor> magnetron: sometimes its normal but incase something wrong happens you will have to remove it
[08:46] <rohan> is there any way to get the logout option back in the system menu on ubuntu 9.04? it's irritating to have to go the top right corner and hunt for it every time
[08:46] <ziroday> [DeViL_KiLLs]: install ccsm and disable/change that animation
[08:46] <ajhtiredwolf> magnetron, and you are sure it is from the official repo?
[08:46]  * Viking667 steps back out
[08:46] <[DeViL_KiLLs]> ziroday: hug :) thanks man
[08:46] <ajhtiredwolf> magnetron, also what is the warning you are getting?
[08:46] <NvidiaUser> Zephryos In my opinnion: At first I didn't like Ubuntu because it wasn't windows and after using it a while I got used to it and now I like it :)
[08:46] <bc> Viking667: also maybe install something like logwatch or logcheck.
[08:46] <Jason404> I have just installed ubuntu, but have no mouse (hyper-v vm, on headless server) I am trying to install freenx, so I can use it properly. how do I navigate without mouse? how do I brin up terminal, etc
[08:47] <[DeViL_KiLLs]> E: Couldn't find package ccsm
[08:47] <ziroday> Jason404: press ctrl+alt+F1 to get to a VT
[08:47] <[DeViL_KiLLs]> what is the full name of package
[08:47] <[DeViL_KiLLs]> ?
[08:47] <ziroday> [DeViL_KiLLs]: the package name is compizconfig-settings-manager
[08:47] <Jason404> ziroday: thanks
[08:47] <ziroday> Jason404: have fun!
[08:47] <Jason404> cheers
[08:47] <bc> [DeViL_KiLLs]: apt-cache search ccsm
[08:47] <AMAR_> HAI
[08:47] <magnetron> nmvictor: ajhtiredwolf: yes, i only use the official repos. the exact warning is in Swedish, i don't think you want that, but it's the regular warning about the package not being authenticated/being unsigned
[08:48] <bc> AMAR_: o hai
[08:48] <[DeViL_KiLLs]> hihi thanks i will try now
[08:48] <ajhtiredwolf> magnetron, what does the program do?
[08:48] <AMAR_> hello
[08:48] <farciarz84> ok I have a alias xxx which is a x@xxx.xxx.xx.x -- why it is not working using ssh xxx
[08:48] <ziroday> magnetron: best idea would be to try a different repo and talk to the mirror hosters :)
[08:48] <magnetron> ajhtiredwolf: it's a crypto puzzle solver. Vigenére crypto and similar.
[08:48] <bc> farciarz84: stick it in ~/.ssh/config or /etc/hosts
[08:49] <magnetron> ziroday: i'll try that.
[08:49] <bc> farciarz84: and maybe go with bash_completion
[08:49] <ajhtiredwolf> magnetron, i do see it in the official repos, i would assume it's ok but i would go with ziroday's suggestion
[08:49] <farciarz84> bc what is bash_completion?
[08:50] <magnetron> ajhtiredwolf: can you install it without warnings?
[08:50] <bc> farciarz84: tab then auto-completes most arguments, hostnames, etc
[08:50] <farciarz84> how to get benefit in this case from that
[08:50] <ajhtiredwolf> magnetron, the warnings are preventing you from installing it ?
[08:50] <farciarz84> but when I should put the gost?
[08:50] <farciarz84> host
[08:50] <ziroday> magnetron: yeah, if another repo doesn't have that error then your best bet is to get hold of your mirror providers, your loco would probably know how to get hold of them (but then you already know that :))
[08:50] <farciarz84> when/where
[08:50] <Tasbuntu> Thanks guys, but that didn't work o:
[08:50] <[DeViL_KiLLs]> not work..  the effect is come with gnome..it is not from compize
[08:51] <NvidiaUser> Tasubuntu you should repost your menu.lst
[08:51] <ajhtiredwolf> magcius, in that case you can either look for a .deb package, or you can try and install it from source, or you can try and find a different software source containing it
[08:51] <cyberjorge> can anyone help me apply this guide to ubuntu 8.10?
[08:51] <cyberjorge> http://www.versalogic.com/kb/KB.asp?KBID=1550 Configure Bootloader (GRUB) section
[08:51] <ziroday> [DeViL_KiLLs]: ah with gnome then I think you're stuck. You might be able to find a way to disable it in gconf
[08:51] <ajhtiredwolf> magnetron, , in that case you can either look for a .deb package, or you can try and install it from source, or you can try and find a different software source containing it
[08:51] <NvidiaUser> Tasubuntu sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:51] <Tasbuntu> http://pastebin.com/f21b529c7
[08:51] <prathamesh> hi guys, there is one application blueproximity its for what? whats the use of that.
[08:51] <Jason404> as I do not need more than two remote connections, would using the free edition of nx server be better in any way than using freenx?
[08:51] <Tasbuntu> There
[08:52] <[DeViL_KiLLs]> where is gconf .. i will read the file
[08:52] <bc> farciarz84: echo '1.2.3.4 foo' >> /etc/hosts, then use ssh user@foo. then add `Host foo` and `User bar` in ~/.ssh/config to be able to just `ssh foo`
[08:52] <NvidiaUser> Tasubuntu and you selected the right option at startup?
[08:52] <ziroday> prathamesh: if the bluetooth device comes in proximity of the bluetooth reciever blueproximity automatically unlocks the machine
[08:52] <nmvictor> magnetron:does that bar you from installing the package anyway?
[08:52] <Tasbuntu> I should note I'm not sure Grub is the program responsible for said animations. Some people have said it's usplash
[08:52] <Tasbuntu> Yes
[08:52] <Tasbuntu> It boots normally, it's simple text based
[08:53] <Tasbuntu> simply*
[08:53] <prathamesh> ziroday : i tried it but its not working properly
[08:53] <Zephryos> Ziroday: Alright the USB Drive is now basically a "Live CD"? It just brought up the same startup stuff as the live CD. Which option do I chose? "Try Ubuntu" "install Ubuntu" "Boot rom First HD" (the only HD on this IS the USB Drive...)
[08:53] <bc> farciarz84: man 5 ssh_config
[08:53] <NvidiaUser> Tasubuntu It looks like your right. Usplash controls the bot screen
[08:54] <ziroday> Zephryos: Try Ubuntu
[08:54] <nmvictor> d
[08:54] <Zephryos> Will I need to do this every time I run it?
[08:54] <[MindVirus]> Every time I update, I always see hipo in a list of packages that have been held back. Can I fix this?
[08:54] <farciarz84> bc I don;t have such file like ~/.ssh/config it's only known_hosts.conf
[08:54] <barbarian_sargon> well everyone, take care
[08:54] <bc> farciarz84: create it
[08:54] <barbarian_sargon> I am going to bed
[08:54] <magnetron> nmvictor: maybe you're not aware of the purpose of the package signatures
[08:55] <ajhtiredwolf> [MindVirus], when you run apt-update ?
[08:55] <Tasbuntu> o: I guess so. But then how do I fix that? Is there a way to reset uSplash so that it shows the animations again?
[08:55] <NvidiaUser> Tasubuntu Can I pm you?
[08:55] <[DeViL_KiLLs]> one more question.. need some tool for apple iphone .. how to upload music from ubuntu to apple device
[08:55] <Tasbuntu> Sure
[08:55] <arvind_khadri> !puregnome | arvind_khadri
[08:55] <[MindVirus]> ajhtiredwolf, I've never heard of apt-update.
[08:55] <[MindVirus]> I use apt-get upgrade/dist-upgrade.
[08:55] <[MindVirus]> And I obviously update my packages with update.
[08:55] <farciarz84> bc tnx for help
[08:55] <nmvictor> magnetron:i just asked,i have neva encounterd the problem
[08:56] <Zephryos> Erf, error! [         3.542351] IO  APIC resources could be not be allocated.                    Loading, Please wait...       BusyBox v1.10.2 (Ubuntu 1:1.10.2-2ubuntu7) built-in shell (ash) Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.       then  (initramfs)
[08:56] <Brando753> is it worth getting crossover office or should i just stick with wine
[08:56] <ajhtiredwolf> [MindVirus], you are saying when you did an "upgrade" not and update?
[08:56] <[DeViL_KiLLs]> may be gtkpod work fine?
[08:57] <Yondering> Brando753, it depends exactly what you want to do with it.
[08:57] <[MindVirus]> ajhtiredwolf, I did both.
[08:57] <Brando753> does anyone know its advantages over wine?
[08:57] <[MindVirus]> ajhtiredwolf, that doesn't matter.
[08:57] <[MindVirus]> It's been happening for a while.
[08:57] <ajhtiredwolf> [MindVirus], if you are wanting to know how to remove the package you can do sudo apt-get remove package name
[08:57] <[MindVirus]> No.
[08:57] <devius> hello, i need some assistance installing the linux intel mesa driver from "http://intellinuxgraphics.org/", i get an error "configure: error: Expat required for DRI."...what am i todo....
[08:57] <[MindVirus]> I don't want to remove it.
[08:58] <[MindVirus]> I want it to stop being held back.
[08:58] <Yondering> Brando753, check the compatibility lists.  If it supports a program that you need, that wine doesn't support and you can't find a linux equivalent, then yeah.. it'd probably be worthwhile.
[08:58] <ajhtiredwolf> [MindVirus], did you try removing it and then readding it ?
[08:58] <[MindVirus]> ajhtiredwolf, no.
[08:58] <[MindVirus]> I will try.
[08:58] <bbryant> has anyone been able to get gtkpod to work on 9.04?
[08:58] <[MindVirus]> bbryant, just ask your question.
[08:59] <devius> hello, i need some assistance installing the linux intel mesa driver from "http://intellinuxgraphics.org/", i get an error "configure: error: Expat required for DRI."...what am i todo....
[08:59] <bbryant> [MindVirus]: it depends on a libgpod.so.3 library that's unavailable in the current repositories, and the current trunk build of gtkpod doesn't compile properly on my system
[08:59] <bbryant> I'm curious if anyone has come across that
[08:59] <Zephryos> Ziroday: Any suggestions?
[08:59] <[MindVirus]> bbryant, I didn't, in facty.
[08:59] <fletcherx> oo
[08:59] <[MindVirus]> *fact.
[08:59] <fletcherx> yyyu
[08:59] <[MindVirus]> But I removed gtkpod a little while back.
[09:00] <[MindVirus]> Did you try rolling back?
[09:00] <bbryant> not yet, the problem is with having a newer dependency than it looks for
[09:00] <devius> hello, i need some assistance installing the linux intel mesa driver from "http://intellinuxgraphics.org/", i get an error "configure: error: Expat required for DRI."...what am i todo....
[09:02] <[MindVirus]> bbryant, right, so if you roll back, it won't ask for a new dep.
[09:02] <[MindVirus]> If you can get an old version to run, then let it run until you can get the new version to.
[09:02] <[MindVirus]> Also, make sure your repos are fine.
[09:02] <bbryant> [MindVirus]: it's asking for an older dependency, and I can't roll pack the library package that's providing the newer file because the older version of libgpod is no longer available
[09:03] <devius> hello, i need some assistance installing the linux intel mesa driver from "http://intellinuxgraphics.org/", i get an error "configure: error: Expat required for DRI."...what am i todo....
[09:03] <[MindVirus]> Wait wait, I thought it was asking for a *newer* version.
[09:03] <[MindVirus]> Oh, I see now.
[09:03] <bbryant> no
[09:03] <[MindVirus]> So what it depends on is too old.
[09:04] <bbryant> right
[09:04] <[MindVirus]> Interesting. Did you file a bug report?
[09:04] <[MindVirus]> (I assume you've updated and all)
[09:04] <[MindVirus]> bbryant, also, I don't know if you're interested but hipo will do the job as well.
[09:04] <bbryant> I haven't gotten that far yet
[09:04] <Zephryos> To Anyone: I think I just made my Kernel mad.. its saying [494.051027] Kernel panic - not syncing: attempted to kill init!" .. Does this mean that Ubuntu is running.. but in text only?
[09:04] <bbryant> I just found that with synaptic
[09:04] <[MindVirus]> Not as many bells and whistles but it works.
[09:04] <bbryant> thanks
[09:04] <[MindVirus]> Aye. It's a lot prettier too. :)
[09:05] <devius> hello, i need some assistance installing the linux intel mesa driver from "http://intellinuxgraphics.org/", i get an error "configure: error: Expat required for DRI."...what am i todo....
[09:05] <bbryant> Hipo worked fine, thanks [MindVirus]
[09:05] <[MindVirus]> devius, why are you installing a driver from a website?
[09:05] <[MindVirus]> bbryant, :)
[09:06] <bc> farciarz84: p.s. if it's not installed (i.e. dpkg -l | grep completion) then `sudo apt-get install bash-completion`
[09:06] <[MindVirus]> ajhtiredwolf, thanks, BTW.
[09:06] <[MindVirus]> I think it fixed.
[09:06] <devius> [MindVirus]: because the new ubuntu dosent suppport my intel grapphics card
[09:06] <[MindVirus]> devius, why do you say that?
[09:06] <ajhtiredwolf> [MindVirus], de nada
[09:07] <oladejo> ubuntu
[09:07] <devius> [MindVirus]: i read it in the release note + the performance is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more than bad
[09:07] <[MindVirus]> devius, 945GME?
[09:08] <devius> [MindVirus]: GM965
[09:08] <ajhtiredwolf> devius, i am using 9.04 with an intel graphics card without problem. However in the next release 9.10 improvements to intel card supprt is planned
[09:08] <[MindVirus]> ajhtiredwolf, a lot of Intel cards have issues.
[09:08] <[MindVirus]> devius, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582&highlight=x3100
[09:08] <[MindVirus]> The PPA helped for me.
[09:08] <[MindVirus]> I'm on the 945 though.
[09:08] <g0wda> what's the main criterion to see if my comp can enable desktop effects?
[09:08] <devius> ajhtiredwolf: GM965....at least yours isnt this one
[09:09] <[MindVirus]> devius, never try to download drivers from a website.
[09:09] <[MindVirus]> Unless you really know why and what you're doing.
[09:09] <devius> [MindVirus]: y's that
[09:09] <devius> aha
[09:09] <ajhtiredwolf> devius, what version are you using rihgt now? if your current drivers work couldnt you just use those in 9.04?
[09:09] <[MindVirus]> devius, because Synaptic takes care of dependencies and many other things.
[09:10] <[MindVirus]> ajhtiredwolf, no.
[09:10] <[MindVirus]> ajhtiredwolf, it's a pretty big kernel-side issue.
[09:10] <devius> ajhtiredwolf: u mean the version of ubuntu....9.04
[09:10] <[MindVirus]> ajhtiredwolf, if you're interested, there's a lot of reading to be done on the subject.
[09:11] <devius> ajhtiredwolf: and btw my current drivers dont work
[09:11] <ajhtiredwolf> [MindVirus], devius i see, in that case wait for 9.10, improvements to intel based cards is planned, maybe see how the alpha fucntions for you
[09:11] <[MindVirus]> ajhtiredwolf, he wants it now, obviously. :)
[09:11] <devius> ajhtiredwolf: ya...
[09:11] <[MindVirus]> devius, just follow the guide.
[09:11] <[MindVirus]> It'll solve everything.
[09:11] <devius> [MindVirus]: ok
[09:12] <ajhtiredwolf> my super awesome solution would be "buy a nvidia card " :P
[09:12] <tobago> doesn somebdy can help me configuring my audio mixer for recording?
[09:13] <devill> ciao a tutti
[09:13] <ajhtiredwolf> tobago, which sound card?
[09:13] <[MindVirus]> devius, this is important.
[09:13] <[MindVirus]> ajhtiredwolf, laptops.
[09:13] <[MindVirus]> Listen, devius.
[09:13] <devius> [MindVirus]: ?
[09:13] <[MindVirus]> If you have major issues, load up recovery mode Ubuntu, and use the root console.
[09:14] <[MindVirus]> Type "nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and put a # before the line with Option "AccelMethod" "UXA".
[09:14] <devius> [MindVirus]: k thanks for the advice
[09:14] <devius> [MindVirus]: lol my xorg.conf file is blank
[09:14] <[MindVirus]> UXA is known to malfunction in this kernel with these drivers.
[09:14] <[MindVirus]> devius, the guide will make you changei t.
[09:14] <[MindVirus]> *change it.
[09:14] <[MindVirus]> (It is highly recommended that you do.)
[09:15] <tobago> ajhtiredwolf, creative soundblaster (quite old one)
[09:15] <ajhtiredwolf> tobago, audigy series?
[09:15] <tobago> what is audigy series?
[09:15] <ajhtiredwolf> tobago, audigy 1 2 etc.
[09:15] <[MindVirus]> ajhtiredwolf, dude.
[09:15] <[MindVirus]> :)
[09:15] <[MindVirus]> It's a SoundBlaster.
[09:16] <ajhtiredwolf> [MindVirus], right... thats what an audigy is
[09:16] <g0wda> "Desktop effects could not be enabled"... why?? how do i see what graphics card i have, all i know is on windows i had to install intel extreme graphics driver for smooth visual exp...
[09:16] <[MindVirus]> ajhtiredwolf, Audigy didn't exist a while ago.
[09:16] <Uplink> anyone know the website that says "just f**king google it?"
[09:16] <ajhtiredwolf> [MindVirus], i own a Sound Blaster Audigy 2
[09:16] <tobago> ajhtiredwolf, how to find out without opening the computer? hwinfo?
[09:16] <[MindVirus]> ajhtiredwolf, I assume by "old" he meant "a few years old".
[09:16] <[MindVirus]> Uplink, put it all together and put a .com after it.
[09:16] <ajhtiredwolf> [MindVirus], audigy 2 is more than 5 years old :p
[09:17] <[MindVirus]> ajhtiredwolf, really? I have a bad memory then.
[09:17] <tobago> ajhtiredwolf, mine is much older
[09:17] <[MindVirus]> tobago, 16-bit, yes?
[09:17] <tobago> [MindVirus], how to find out?
[09:18] <ajhtiredwolf> tobago, if your using gnome just go to system administration sound
[09:18] <[MindVirus]> Don't worry 'bout it. If it's that old then it's probably 16-bit.
[09:18] <tobago> [MindVirus], thugh i suppose it's not a 32 bit
[09:18] <ajhtiredwolf> tobago, system/ preferences/ sound i mean
[09:18] <ajhtiredwolf> tobago, what do you have listed under Device: ?
[09:19] <tobago> ajhtiredwolf, HDANvidia Alsa Mixer
[09:19] <ajhtiredwolf> tobago, are there any onther devices listed there?
[09:19] <ajhtiredwolf> tobago, click on the drop down menu
[09:19] <[MindVirus]> devius, I am going to bed so I cannot help you any longer.
[09:19] <ajhtiredwolf> tobago, that is your onboard sound card
[09:19] <tobago> ajhtiredwolf, yes booktree for example
[09:19] <[MindVirus]> Hope you succeed, buddy.
[09:20] <tobago> and realtek
[09:20] <devius> [MindVirus]: np thanks anyway
[09:20] <tobago> ajhtiredwolf, ^^
[09:20] <Lazengann> Hello everyone.
[09:20] <nmvictor>  Lazengann:hellooo?
[09:20] <ajhtiredwolf> tobago, first off what is the proble your having with it ?
[09:20] <Lazengann> Just got my Ubuntu installed and running.
[09:20] <Lazengann> Liking it so far.
[09:20] <Lazengann> Previous Windows user.
[09:21] <tobago> ajhtiredwolf, anyway i now use the onboard card. so it's the nvidia one
[09:21] <tripzero> what's the command in 9.04 to reenable X zap?
[09:21] <ajhtiredwolf> tobago, what is the problem your having with it?
[09:22] <tobago> ajhtiredwolf, my problem: i want to record with audacity (or whatever) and want to make sure the mixer settings are correctly
[09:22] <tobago> so i want to use the line-in
[09:22] <ajhtiredwolf> tripzero, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/DontZap?action=show&redirect=DontZap
[09:23] <Burlynn> anyone running an ati 3200 okay under jaunty with the catalyst drivers?
[09:23] <ajhtiredwolf> tobago, did you check to see if line in is muted?
[09:23] <tobago> ajhtiredwolf, i ensured there is a signal on the line-in, but the recording tool is not recognizing anything.
[09:24] <ajhtiredwolf> tobago, from what i remember, i think with audicity you might actually have to use a program called jack
[09:24] <tobago> ajhtiredwolf, i will install it
[09:25] <tobago> ajhtiredwolf, i installed jack too.
[09:25] <Futurity> Hi, I'm considering moving from openSuse10.3 to Ubuntu.  OpenSuse provide security and bug fix updates for 2 years, does anyone know how long Ubuntu support their latest releases?
[09:26] <oladejo> register oladejo
[09:26] <Futurity> and if like openSuse it is sucurity and bug fix updates only, or new versions as well
[09:26] <ajhtiredwolf> Futurity, there is a seperate version that is supported longer
[09:26] <tobago> ajhtiredwolf, i have opened the als mixer and choosen record.
[09:27] <Futurity> i know there is an LTS? version, but is that only security and bug fixes, or does that allow new versions to be installed?
[09:27] <ajhtiredwolf> Futurity, not sure :-P
[09:27] <Uhriventis> Hmm, just came from openSUSE because my girlfriend couldn't figure it out.
[09:27] <Futurity> when I say new versions, i mean does it suggest going from firefox 2 to firefox 3 when you run update?
[09:27] <Uhriventis> Kinda miss it.
[09:27] <Futurity> It is a nice desktop environment
[09:28] <ajhtiredwolf> Futurity, ive never ran the LTS version
[09:28] <oladejo> REGISTER <mariama><muhdoladejo@yahoo.com>
[09:28] <tobago> ajhtiredwolf, there the "audio record" button is marked as disabled, enabling it and opening the record tab again, the button is still marked as disabled.
[09:28] <Futurity> but it's a nightmare to migrate from opensuse 10.2 to 10.3 for example
[09:28] <tobago> ajhtiredwolf, any idea?
[09:28] <ajhtiredwolf> Futurity, upgrading is usually fairly painless
[09:28] <ajhtiredwolf> Futurity, but I always wipe and reinstall just out of habbit
[09:29] <Uhriventis> I liked opensuse
[09:29] <Uhriventis> A lot
[09:29] <nmvictor>   oladejo: its /REGISTER  <usrename>  <emailaddress>  dont include  the <>
[09:29] <Uhriventis>  Ubuntu was my first.
[09:29] <Futurity> i'm basicallyu hoping that Ubuntu not only gives security and bug fix updates, but like Windows, tells you when new versions of software are available so that you can upgrade from Firefox to the latest version for example
[09:29] <Uhriventis> It's like losing your Linux virginity
[09:29] <ajhtiredwolf> Futurity, yes it does do that
[09:29] <Futurity> cool
[09:29] <ajhtiredwolf> Futurity, however with some programs you need to add their software repo to your source list
[09:29] <Futurity> in fact very cool :)
[09:30] <Futurity> i see
[09:30] <ajhtiredwolf> Futurity, because ubuntu isn't always very fast in doing that
[09:30] <mastermaikeru> I switched because I got tired of windows not utilizing my hardware to its fullest potential.
[09:30] <Futurity> i suppose like the Google software repository?
[09:30] <ajhtiredwolf> Futurity, yes or pidgin etc etc
[09:30] <lowkey1979> Hi there. I've just installed the latest Ubuntu release, and the damn thing has some bug already. Anyone know more than me about how to fix this?
[09:30] <Futurity> don't worry moved away from Windows years ago ;)
[09:30] <oladejo> Ubuntu
[09:30] <Uhriventis> Pidgin is the greates
[09:30] <tobago> Futurity, and ubuntu is very reliable in release times.
[09:30] <Uhriventis> t
[09:30] <Futurity> Although loving the Apple Mac interface
[09:30] <nmvictor> Futurity: ofcourse it does that,also most software are coded to to do that,tell you when a new version of them is available
[09:31] <tess_> hello every one - need help installing vmware player - its asking for "kernel headers 2.6.27-8-eeepc what is this and where do i find one???
[09:31] <ajhtiredwolf> lowkey1979,  i dont know how to fix some bug, but if you tell me whats wrong i might be able to help you
[09:31] <Uhriventis> I'm actually a native KDE 3.5 user.
[09:31] <lowkey1979> Well here's the story.
[09:31] <Futurity> nmvictor: openSuse only tells you about security and bug fix versions for the release you have installed from their DVD
[09:31] <Uhriventis> I just got ubuntu because of the support. The support or at least at the time was samall for Kubuntu
[09:31] <Futurity> so you may get the latest firefox 2 with all the security and bug fixes finstalld
[09:31] <ajhtiredwolf> tobago, ehh, honestly i havent messed iwth audio recording in a while with ubuntu, i gave up trying to get my Mbox mini working in it
[09:31] <Futurity> but it won't move from Firefox 2 to firefox 3
[09:32] <kgx> how do i rename my wireless device? its currently called "eth1" instead of "wlan0"
[09:32] <ajhtiredwolf> Futurity, i believe that FF 3 is intalled default in 9.04
[09:32] <ajhtiredwolf> kgx, i think its in /etc/network/interfaces but im not sure
[09:32] <Futurity> the thing is that openSuse provide 2 years support on their latest erleases but i think Ubuntu is only 18 months for their latest releases
[09:32] <Uhriventis> I think one thing Ubuntu has over openSUSE is the family of users willing to help.
[09:32] <Futurity> i agree with that ;)
[09:32] <Uhriventis> A lot more Ubuntu users then SUSE
[09:33] <oladejo> am trying to upgrade from ubuntu 8.04 to 9.04 after the upgrade i can not get my GUI again
[09:33] <Burlynn> ubuntu 8.10 new install on a laptop intel 945 chipset, normal visual effects, DarkRoom theme option, all my popup notifications are two colors, is this normal? the background is half tan half grey, does not look right
[09:33] <lowkey1979> I just installed it for the first time. Last night I put it on hibernate. No problem up to now, running like a dream. Then, my girlfriend went to use it today. Naturally it wanted a password, so not know it she tried to switch users. The screen goes black. I come home and reboot and it crashes on the user login screen.
[09:33] <Futurity> i take it that the Ubuntu user base is now bigger than openSuse?
[09:33] <Uhriventis> I'm on 9.04 AMD64
[09:33] <Uhriventis> A lot bigger
[09:33] <Uhriventis> By a long shot
[09:33] <Uhriventis> I would say thousands of bigger
[09:33] <tess_> hello every one - need help installing vmware player - its asking for "kernel headers 2.6.27-8-eeepc what is this and where do i find one???
[09:33] <ajhtiredwolf> lowkey1979, i used to have problems with hybernate, so i turned it off
[09:33] <lowkey1979> It's like the display  crashes or something. Flickers a lot then locks up.
[09:34] <Uhriventis> Right now I can't get 3D to work for some reason, but oh well.
[09:34] <Futurity> I'll check it out ;)
[09:34] <Futurity> thanks for all your advice
[09:34] <ajhtiredwolf> Futurity, you know if you wanted to just try it out first
[09:34] <lowkey1979> Yeah, but now I'm having to use the install ISO disk just to get on and try and fix it.
[09:34] <ajhtiredwolf> Futurity, you could always just install a guest VB session in your current opensuse session
[09:35] <ajhtiredwolf> lowkey1979, so the gui will no longer show up?
[09:35] <Uhriventis> Futurity try Fedora
[09:35] <ajhtiredwolf> Uhriventis, if he's looking for friendly user support... i woudlnt try fedora :p
[09:35] <lowkey1979> You think I need to resort to a reinstall? Will that get rid of what I've installed already or will it reinstall without reformatting?
[09:35] <nmvictor> Futurity: sorry i thought you were asking about ubuntu,wouldn you try #suse,if you need anything about them.sorry anyway
[09:35] <ajhtiredwolf> Uhriventis, that is the reason i switched to ubuntu
[09:35] <lowkey1979> Nope, completely dead.
[09:35] <kwork> root@juri:/etc# sudo do-release-upgrade
[09:35] <kwork> Checking for a new ubuntu release
[09:35] <kwork> No new release found
[09:35] <kwork> root@juri:/etc# cat /etc/issue
[09:35] <kwork> issue      issue.net
[09:35] <FloodBot2> kwork: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:35] <kwork> root@juri:/etc# cat /etc/issue
[09:35] <kwork> Ubuntu 8.04.2 \n \l
[09:35] <Uhriventis> I switched from Ubuntu for that "hands on" experience.
[09:36] <ajhtiredwolf> lowkey1979, what graphics card are you using?
[09:36] <ajhtiredwolf> Uhriventis, that temptation is there however I dont have the time :-P
[09:36] <lowkey1979> Radeon 7000. But there were no problems before...
[09:36] <kwork> http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/177027/
[09:36] <kwork> how is that possible
[09:36] <lowkey1979> I think, I foger actually lol
[09:36] <Uhriventis> Haha, try Minix!
[09:36] <lowkey1979> forget
[09:36] <ajhtiredwolf> lowkey1979, try reconfiguring the xorg.conf and if that doesnt work reinstall your ati display drivers
[09:37] <herb> hi everybody!
[09:37] <kwork> http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/177027/ <--- why i cant release upgrade ?
[09:37] <Uhriventis> http://www.minix3.org/
[09:37] <Uhriventis> Talk about hard
[09:38] <hskill> how do i get ncurses.h?
[09:38] <Uhriventis> Or not hard... But, rather time consuming.
[09:38] <lowkey1979> Hmmmm. New linux user here, I'd rather avoid killing it. How straightforward is that? The only command line stuff I know is DOS. I know, i know....
[09:38] <ajhtiredwolf> lowkey1979, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:38] <herb> in my computer both speaker and headphone are working. But i thought if you connect headphone speakers shouldn't work. How can i fix it? thanx!
[09:38] <ajhtiredwolf> lowkey1979, run that
[09:38] <kwork> do i need to set new aptsouces to upgrade from 8.0.2 ?
[09:38] <ajhtiredwolf> lowkey1979, that will reconfigure the xorg.conf
[09:38] <Uhriventis> DOS CMD is harder than UNIX command
[09:38] <lowkey1979> Ok...
[09:39] <indus> herb: u mean u still hear sound from the speakers
[09:39] <lowkey1979> One sec, will give it a go...
[09:39] <Uhriventis> UNIX is much more straight forward. So if you have DOS skills you can UNIX around fine
[09:39] <herb> indus, yes
[09:39] <devius> Uhriventis: **not**
[09:39] <ajhtiredwolf> lowkey1979, dont do that in your live session
[09:39] <areels> wine is a poison! it poisons linux knowledgebase!
[09:39] <indus> herb: laptop?
[09:39] <ajhtiredwolf> lowkey1979, do it in the installed session
[09:39] <areels> what are alternatives to firefox on ubuntu?
[09:39] <herb> indus, yes
[09:39] <Uhriventis> Devius: Yet
[09:39] <Uhriventis> Yet
[09:39] <Uhriventis> Uhg yes
[09:39] <herb> and mine is xubuntu
[09:39] <areels> safari and opera are not supported on ubuntu?
[09:39] <indus> herb: which version\o f ubunty
[09:40] <nmvictor> areels:midori
[09:40] <herb> 9.04
[09:40] <ajhtiredwolf> areels, I think opera is, not sure about safara
[09:40] <areels> nmvictor:  i've trouble with flash, is midori better?
[09:40] <nmvictor> areels:but firefox still stands out to be the best you'll ever get
[09:40] <Uhriventis> I leared UNIX command much easier then DOS
[09:40] <indus> herb: have you tried in windows? Have similar issue?
[09:40] <Uhriventis> *learned
[09:40] <areels> nmvictor:  flashs are sluggish on firefox don't know why
[09:40] <ajhtiredwolf> nmvictor, chrome is the best imho :P
[09:40] <herb> indus, i don't have windows on my laptop
[09:40] <ajhtiredwolf> areels, have you heard of swiftweasel?
[09:40] <areels> i believe the chrome is best too ajhtiredwolf
[09:41] <Uhriventis> What is your resolution set to? Might have a reason for lag
[09:41] <ajhtiredwolf> areels, it is an alternative to firefox, made for linux, runs faster
[09:41] <areels> haven't heard of it ajhtiredwolf but i know iceweasel
[09:41] <nmvictor> areels:i could help you with flash,maybe you need the latest version,you have it?
[09:41] <lowkey1979> Yeah, true lol.
[09:41] <ajhtiredwolf> areels, as far as flash though, that is a problem with flash not firefox
[09:41] <Uhriventis> I just got flash working on 9.04
[09:41] <areels> yes it's the latest and i'm using adobe's extension nmvictor
[09:41] <ajhtiredwolf> areels, you can try some of the open source solutions to flash but they are not that great imho
[09:42] <areels> well i've tried recommended swf extension but it was sluggish either
[09:42] <ajhtiredwolf> areels, try gnash
[09:42] <ajhtiredwolf> areels, other than that, flash jus runs slow in linux from my experience
[09:42] <areels> yea i mean that, it really works slow
[09:43] <ajhtiredwolf> areels, you might get some performance gains in swiftweasel
[09:43] <Uhriventis> ajhtiredwolf: In openSUSE worked fine for me. Just like XP
[09:43] <ajhtiredwolf> areels, simply because it isnt super bloated like firefox
[09:43] <Uhriventis> Ubuntu seems slower
[09:43] <areels> well let me try swiftweasel then
[09:43] <ajhtiredwolf> Uhriventis, never used openSUSE but i had the problem in all distros ive used
[09:44] <Uhriventis> ajhtiredwolf: Old hardware?
[09:44] <ajhtiredwolf> Uhriventis, not at all :-P
[09:44] <ajhtiredwolf> Uhriventis, Intel Duo 7400 geforce 8800gt OC edition, 4gig ram
[09:44] <Uhriventis> ajhtiredworlf: That was my problem. I updated slightly and things work a lot better.
[09:44] <ajhtiredwolf> Uhriventis, I use linux for gaming too so i need something that can keep up
[09:45] <Uhriventis> ajhtiredwolf: Might be ahead of your game in that case.
[09:45] <indus> hi
[09:45] <Uhriventis> MMORPGs?
[09:45] <ajhtiredwolf> Uhriventis, unbelievably you can get dx9 games to work
[09:45] <ajhtiredwolf> Uhriventis, nahh I hate those, those are for people who sit around all day doing nothing with their life :P
[09:45] <Uhriventis> DX10?
[09:45] <ajhtiredwolf> Uhriventis, I just got fallout3 to work
[09:45] <ajhtiredwolf> Uhriventis, DX10 no, that doenst even work in xp :P
[09:45] <indus> !hello
[09:45] <Uhriventis> It can
[09:45] <Uhriventis> ...
[09:46] <indus> thanks ubottu
[09:46] <Uhriventis> With some tweak after SP3
[09:46] <ajhtiredwolf> Uhriventis, *shrug maybe* i dunno i dont use windows
[09:46] <Uhriventis> Since it's no longer supported
[09:46] <nmvictor> areels: you could also try chrome as ajhtiredwolf suggests,i never knew that it was ready,one for linux.im gonna get it too.
[09:46] <oladejo> hello
[09:46] <asafche> i'm need help in figuring how to overpass my smtp mail sending problem. it can't be my comp., cause i can send smtp mails in other wi-fi connection. is it possible that it is the router?
[09:46] <ajhtiredwolf> nmvictor, it isnt available in linux
[09:46] <Uhriventis> Personally Windows isn't a bad OS Vista is but not XP.
[09:46] <GibbaTheHutt> don't think it is out for linux
[09:46] <ajhtiredwolf> nmvictor, i was just saying it is my favorite :p
[09:46] <joosengee> หวัดดีครับ ทุกคน
[09:46] <oladejo> nickname olasoft
[09:46] <ajhtiredwolf> Uhriventis, I don't like having to run an antivirus
[09:47] <joosengee> มีใคร ใช้งาน xubuntu บ้างครับ
[09:47] <tobago> i put in my old creative soundblaster right now, but the system seems to ignore it? the onboard card is still working but the soundblaster does not.
[09:47] <indus> nmvictor: try opera, swiftfox, swiftweasel
[09:47] <joosengee> hi
[09:47] <asafche> please. anyone?
[09:47] <asafche> please. anyone?
[09:47] <asafche> please. anyone?
[09:47] <FloodBot2> asafche: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:47] <Uhriventis> Well, put it this way. If nine out of ten people used Linux than it would be getting the wrap because, if I was incline to write a virus I would want it to effect as much people as I can.
[09:47] <indus> asafche: ask ur question
[09:47] <Uhriventis> It's not that it's a bad os
[09:48] <Uhriventis> Just popular
[09:48] <tobago> furthermore the network card now makes trouble.
[09:48] <ajhtiredwolf> Uhriventis, well the difference with linux is
[09:48] <jussi01> !ot | Uhriventis
[09:48] <ajhtiredwolf> Uhriventis, in linux everyone isn't using the same program
[09:48] <lars_bauer> howto get open office 3.0 on Intrepid Ibex
[09:48] <ajhtiredwolf> Uhriventis, just about every windows user out there has outlook express, so someone can write an outlook virus and attack most windows useres
[09:48] <asafche> i'm need help in figuring how to overpass my smtp mail sending problem. it can't be my comp., cause i can send smtp mails in other wi-fi connection. is it possible that it is the router?
[09:48] <indus> lars_bauer: try enable backports in repository synaptic
[09:49] <Uhriventis> Same with openofice.
[09:49] <Uhriventis> office
[09:49] <indus> lars_bauer: if its been backported that is
[09:49] <GibbaTheHutt> asafche, can you explain the problem a bit more detailed ?
[09:49] <ajhtiredwolf> Uhriventis, I suppose, but then there is the fact that xp makes the default user adminstrator
[09:49] <Uhriventis> Besides, Linux just bought a bunch of code from Microsoft anyways.
[09:49] <GibbaTheHutt> oO
[09:50] <Uhriventis> Same with Mac. Mac's coding is 30 percent MS
[09:50] <rohit> Linux bought code from Microsoft ? When did that happen ?
[09:50] <jussi01> ajhtiredwolf: Uhriventis, please use #ubuntu-offtopic for this discussion
[09:50] <GibbaTheHutt> Linux doesn't buy code :)
[09:50] <Simon1> Does anyone know a good site to show me how to setup my nokia phone as a modem for my EEE PC using bluetooth?
[09:50] <ajhtiredwolf> GibbaTheHutt, <---
[09:50] <Uhriventis> SUSE/Red Hat/Fedora
[09:50] <Uhriventis> Google it
[09:50] <jussi01> Uhriventis: Last warning
[09:50] <Uhriventis> Warning for what?
[09:50] <jussi01> Uhriventis, please use #ubuntu-offtopic for this discussion
[09:50] <GibbaTheHutt> Uhriventis, go to offtopic channel for none technical stuff
[09:51] <ajhtiredwolf> jussi01, ah alright, no questions being asked though :p
[09:51] <asafche> GibbaTheHutt, - i have an ubuntu 8.04 and have evolution installed and read/write my mails. when i'm at my parents house, with another wi-fi, it can read mails but not send them.
[09:51] <jimi_> hi all, whats the command line for updating the software and sources list
[09:51] <ajhtiredwolf> jim__, sudo apt-get update
[09:51] <GibbaTheHutt> asafche, so I assume you're on a laptop which works at one and not the other ?
[09:51] <Uhriventis> ;^)
[09:52] <asafche> GibbaTheHutt, the send mail are configured as smtp. the answer is yes for your question.
[09:52] <jimi_> ty
[09:52] <GibbaTheHutt> asafche, and what about the different ISPs, is one of them the same as the mail account you are using ?
[09:52] <luzze> oh,my god
[09:53] <jimi_> whats the channel for gaming on ubuntu?
[09:54] <asafche> GibbaTheHutt, no. my e-mail is at lunarpages, a host. company, and the ISP is another communication comp.
[09:54] <lars_bauer> indus: sound as a good idea , but i have tryed to understand what you suggest , and searched around in settings etc. I  am stocked.
[09:55] <Simon1> anyone know a good site for setting up jaunty to use a mobile phone for internet via bluetooth?
[09:55] <asafche> GibbaTheHutt, maybe it's the router? it can be so?
[09:55] <GibbaTheHutt> asafche, it could still be ISP, could be router if it has some odd settings, but less likely, do you have any other email accounts you can test with ?
[09:55] <indus> lars_bauer: i forgot ur question :)
[09:55] <asafche> i have a gmail acoount i can try configure at my LT....
[09:56] <asafche> GibbaTheHutt,  i have a gmail acoount i can try configure at my LT....
[09:56] <GibbaTheHutt> asafche, it may help isolate the problem
[09:57] <jussi01> asafche: are you using port 25? here in finland ISP's often block port 25
[09:57] <TheNano> asafche: the ISP /provider blocks the standard smtp port, you can yuse their alternative smtp sever instead, Gmail uses another port over ssl for smtp and it will work!
[09:57] <rohit> jimi_,  #ubuntu-gaming
[09:58] <jimi_> rohit, ty
[09:59] <rohit> Hmm which other channels are good on IRC ?
[09:59] <rohit> jim__ ~ np
[09:59] <jimi_> rwth
[09:59] <jimi_> sorry about that
[09:59] <rohit> I've just started using IRC past few days ...
[10:00] <jimi_> rohit, i guess it depends what you need to what channel you go to
[10:00] <rohit> jim__ ~ I was thinking something like programming, linux ... basically some geek stuff :D
[10:01] <indus> rohit: try #kernel
[10:01] <jimi_> rohit, well i dont know the names of them but im sure there will be a list of them on google and plenty of them too :)
[10:01] <rohit> Hmm will do - whole new world out here :D
[10:04] <chocobanana> Hi everyone!!!!
[10:04] <g0wda> hi buddies! my apt-get is goin crazy repeating its downloads, i can't figure out wat's the prob, i can't find the files it downloaded in cache either... wats goin on??
[10:04] <asafche> jussi01, how can i know if im using port 25
[10:04] <asafche> ?
[10:04] <chocobanana> g0wda: try "sudo apt-get autoclean" in the terminal
[10:05] <chocobanana> g0wda: then issue a "sudo apt-get update"
[10:05] <g0wda> does that delete all my packages in the cache? i want to keep them actually...
[10:05] <chocobanana> g0wda: why would you want that?
[10:06] <g0wda> I can create a local repo later and take it anywhere... i've been doing that since hardy... my friends without internet benifit a lot from it..
[10:07] <chocobanana> g0wda: I see...
[10:07] <chocobanana> g0wda: then I'm not sure...
[10:07] <chocobanana> g0wda: you may want to manually move the cache somewhere else and still do the apt-get autoclean
[10:07] <g0wda> ok i backed up the packages in another directory... now i can try wat u said
[10:08] <g0wda> yeha
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[10:08] <chocobanana> g0wda: good lucj
[10:08] <chocobanana> luck
[10:09] <chocobanana> Does anyone know how to limit the boundaries of the smaller resolution display in a dual screen set up?
[10:09] <g0wda> hey wait a sec, git-core isn't there in my synaptic, everything else, libgit-ruby for example is there!!!!
[10:09] <g0wda> wtf?
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> g0wda: apt-cache search git | grep core
[10:09] <gogy> how to find exact port wher my mode, is connected??
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> gogy: can you expan please, i dont understand the question
[10:11] <g0wda> aCTIONpARSNIP it's there in the command line thing but not in synaptic i swear!
[10:11] <gogy> im trying to setup a hyla fax server and i`m having troble to set my modem port i`m not shoure i select the right one
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> g0wda: thats half a good thing at least, ive seen loads of people say similar but with different packages
[10:12] <macubuntu> anyone know how to make work numeric kbd on an standard apple usb kbd ?
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> g0wda: personally i dont use gui apps to install/remove packages
[10:12] <g0wda> ok i found it by scrolling up an down!
[10:12] <chocobanana> g0wda: lol
[10:12] <g0wda> even i wouldnt have if my apt-get wasn crazy..
[10:13] <g0wda> it keeps downloading the same ded file till i hit ctrl+c out of desperation
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> macubuntu: let me see what i can dig up
[10:13] <Burlynn> ubuntu 8.10 new install on a laptop intel 945 chipset, normal visual effects, DarkRoom theme option, all my popup notifications are two colors, is this normal? the background is half tan half grey, does not look right
[10:13] <macubuntu> chocobana for me I can do it with NVDIA X server settings
[10:14] <areels> nmvictor:  chrome released for linux??
[10:14] <macubuntu> thanks Action P
[10:14] <gogy> actionparsnip:do u have any advice about find out my modem port??
[10:15] <areels> not yet http://www.google.com/chrome/intl/en/linux.html?hl=en
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> macubuntu: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xkeyboard-config/+bug/29009
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> gogy: let me see
[10:15] <jetienne> !java
[10:15] <macubuntu> thanks XXX I check it
[10:16] <areels> !chromium
[10:16] <chocobanana> Burlynn: does it happen only with Darkroom? Try changing the desktop background. The notifications are slightly transparent and will show a bit of whatever is behind...
[10:16] <areels> !chrome
[10:16] <lensiwpe> hey guys
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> gogy: may help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=320534&highlight=faxing+with+ubuntu
[10:16] <lensiwpe> can someone give me a hand with joomla
[10:16] <gogy> thnx
[10:16] <lensiwpe> im trying to install it and its saying that it cant write to a heap of directories like images what do i chmod them to?
[10:16] <chocobanana> lensiwpe: you're better of to the Joomla channel (#joomla)
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> gogy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupAndFax may help too
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> gogy: http://www.ls.net/software/opensource/linux/ubuntu/efax
[10:17] <lensiwpe> chocobanana: kthxbye
[10:17] <areels> oh, chrome is almost done http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/waterfall/console
[10:17] <Burlynn> chocobanana: no it happens with the default theme too, and regardless if the popup is top or bottom it still has that color deal. not a big deal just kind of ugly
[10:18] <chocobanana> Burlynn: right, you mention ubuntu 8.10, no transparent notifications yet...
[10:19] <chocobanana> Burlynn: not sure about what may be the problem unfortunately
[10:19] <chocobanana> Burlynn: try searching or posting your question in the forums
[10:19] <lensiwpe> hey guys just been to #joomla and there is nobody there
[10:19] <asafche> GibbaTheHutt, the evolution is giving me this message: לא ניתן להתחבר ל-mail.google.com: ‏Connection timed out
[10:19] <meganox> i can't burn cds on my laptop with hardy/intrepid/jaunty, finding lots of noise when i google, can someone please help me get started troubleshooting, i don't know where to begin
[10:19] <lensiwpe> can someone tell me what to chmod the directories in joomla to?
[10:20] <lensiwpe> directories like image, language, mambots etc etc
[10:20] <jetienne> q. how to install java in firefox ?
[10:20] <asafche> GibbaTheHutt, it says that i can't connect in hebrew
[10:21] <lensiwpe> anyone know?~
[10:21] <infinityxi> jetienne: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[10:21] <macubuntu> my numpad was working with 8.10 but nomore in 9.04, it's pitty cause everything else is working like a cadillac  on macpro
[10:21] <infinityxi> in the terminal should get you the web browser plugin
[10:21] <maxagaz> is there a tool to extract an image from a pdf ?
[10:22] <meganox> lensiwpe: you read the installation guide?  http://downloads.joomlacode.org/docmanfileversion/1/7/4/17471/1.5_Installation_Manual_version_0.5.pdf
[10:22] <elementz> hi all
[10:22] <macubuntu> hi elementz
[10:24] <Surlent777> just to confirm, 30.1GB of items in /root/.Trash, most of which is in folders labeled recup_xxx, as well as a few variations and copies of dosemu.gz, is ok to delete, right?
[10:24] <elementz> i need usbmon driver enabled on my jaunty box. modprobe usbmon gives me a module not found. a locate gives me a driver for the previous kernel under /lib/modules/2.6.27-11-generic/kernel/drivers/usb/mon/usbmon.ko . now how would i proceed from here?
[10:25] <tdn> I have a fit-PC with an on board chip for hardware accelerated AES. There is a module for this that is loaded by default geode_aes. How do I make dmcrypt/LUKS use this module?
[10:25] <macubuntu> youhou is there anyone here with a macpro and U 9.04 ???
[10:25] <lensiwpe> hey guys im back
[10:25] <lensiwpe> can someone give me a hand with these joomla permissions
[10:25] <infinityxi> maxagaz: install xpdf-utilities
[10:26] <lensiwpe> trying to install joomla but i dont know what permissions it needs
[10:26] <infinityxi> maxagaz: there is a tool called pdfimages
[10:26] <lensiwpe> anyone?
[10:26] <lensiwpe> c'mon someone in here must know about octal permissions
[10:27] <infinityxi> well what do you need to do, read write and execute?
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> lensiwpe: i know all about them
[10:27] <infinityxi> 700?
[10:27] <meganox> lensiwpe: i think no-one knows about joomla
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> lensiwpe: just not what joomla expects
[10:27] <lensiwpe> well the issue is this
[10:27] <lensiwpe> its not a joomla problem i guess
[10:27] <lensiwpe> its just...
[10:27] <lensiwpe> i dont know what kind of permissions you need on a web directory in /var/www
[10:27] <meganox> lensiwpe: joomla installation forum: http://forum.joomla.org/viewforum.php?f=429
[10:27] <lensiwpe> thanks
[10:28] <Surlent777> just to confirm, 30.1GB of items in /root/.Trash, most of which is in folders labeled recup_xxx, as well as a few variations and copies of dosemu.gz, is ok to delete, right?
[10:28] <infinityxi> what are they in root's trash?
[10:28] <lensiwpe> see i have RTFMed but the weird thing is they dont tell you what to chmod the directories to...
[10:28] <infinityxi> why*
[10:28] <Surlent777> infinityxi: I have no clue whatsoever
[10:28] <Surlent777> but damn, that is a LOT of space
[10:28] <infinityxi> i'm guessing if they are in there and the system is working fine
[10:28] <macubuntu> my numpad was working with 8.10 but nomore in 9.04, it's pitty cause everything else is working like a cadillac  on macpro
[10:29] <lensiwpe> anybody else think thats weird?
[10:29] <infinityxi> have you been running many programs as root?
[10:29] <Surlent777> nothing out of the ordinary
[10:30] <Surlent777> synaptic and framebuffer programs mostly
[10:30] <infinityxi> should be fine since the system is running fine and nothing will be looking for anything in the trash
[10:30] <Surlent777> ok, that's what I thought; just wanted to confirm
[10:30] <Surlent777> thanks
[10:30] <ttl6> how often is stuff in /etc/cron.daily executed, once every 24hours? is there a way to change it to once every 18hours?
[10:30] <lesshaste> where is /proc/config.gz on ubuntu? Is it somewhere else or just missing?
[10:31] <infinityxi> there are a bunch of man pages on cron
[10:32] <lensiwpe> GUYS I FOUND IT!
[10:32] <lensiwpe> for anyone else's benefit the place to find the chmod values for joomla is http://forum.joomla.org/index.php/topic,9987.msg82253.html
[10:33] <infinityxi> maxagaz: actually pdfimages is already installed. no need to install anything else
[10:33] <Preet> hi all, i am using a touchscreen, ubuntu 9.04 picks it up by detault but it acts "wierd".  When i touch the screen i can move my finger and hte mouse moves, but not to where my finger it, it moves relative to where it currently is. like if the cursor is in the middle, and i touch the top right and move 1cm down, the cursor moves 1cm down from the middle.  I also cannot click. lsusb picks it up as "D-WAV Scientific Co., Ltd eGalax TouchScreen"
[10:36] <q0s> hey guys. my flash plugin is just partially working. most popular sites work, but less popular ones do not. can someone help me to find out why?
[10:36] <infinityxi> Preet: sounds like you need to calibrate the screen
[10:36] <infinityxi> there is a screen calibrating utility, just can't think of the package
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> xrandr, infinityxi
[10:37] <infinityxi> q0s: which flash plugin did you use
[10:37] <iceroot> q0s: flash oder gnash?
[10:37] <iceroot> or
[10:37] <Preet> yeah i know which you mean, when i ran it before it said it didnt find a touchscreen
[10:37] <Preet> but i will try it again later
[10:37] <T-KILLER> Hello, I have compiled and installed the latest FFMPEG and now i am trying to compile and install the latest FFMPEG-PHP but an coming across the error "make: *** [ffmpeg_frame.lo] Error 1"
[10:37] <meganox> when drives changed from hdX to sdX, is that because IDE is now under SCSI emulation or SATA emulation?  is there a way back to plain ol' IDE?  not being able to burn CDs is very embarrasing!
[10:37] <Preet> that was aimed at infinityxi, sorry
[10:37] <T-KILLER> this is stopping the FFMPEG-PHP from compiling properly
[10:37] <Surlent777> actually, you know what?
[10:37] <Surlent777> that was OVER 80 GIGS OF DATA
[10:37] <T-KILLER> can someone help to resolve this issue ?
[10:37] <Guest86300> how can i display all my environment variable???
[10:37] <infinityxi> Surlent777: wow how did that happen
[10:37] <q0s> infinityxi, iceroot: swfdec and adobe flash
[10:37] <Guest86300> in the shell of course
[10:38] <Surlent777> I haven't the slightest clue!
[10:38] <chocobanana> Does anyone know how to limit the boundaries of the smaller resolution display in a dual screen set up?
[10:38] <Surlent777> I have no idea what makes those recup_xxx folders
[10:38] <iceroot> Guest86300: env
[10:38] <iceroot> Guest86300: also printenv
[10:39] <Guest86300> thanks
[10:39] <infinityxi> q0s: i only have adobe's flash in and everything works, maybe having swfdec in messes things up. I cannot confirm that though
[10:39] <Surlent777> and from what little I saw, it looks like it was mostly txt files...one I saw looked like an XML file and mentioned GNOME_Internet and KDE
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> Surlent777: restore from backup sounds like its in order?
[10:39] <q0s> infinityxi, okay. i will check this
[10:40] <humber> Does anyone know how to limit the boundaries of the smaller resolution display in a dual screen set up?
[10:40] <infinityxi> try uninstalling swfdec-mozilla and seeing if it works
[10:40] <Surlent777> hahaha...backups...heh. =/ I hope it isn't that bad. Everything is functioning more or less as I'd expect, aside from the 80GB OF CRAP in /root/.Trash
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> Surlent777: yikes thats a lot
[10:40] <T-KILLER> Hello, I have compiled and installed the latest FFMPEG and now i am trying to compile and install the latest FFMPEG-PHP but an coming across the error "make: *** [ffmpeg_frame.lo] Error 1"
[10:40] <Surlent777> no kidding =((( I was really wondering where all my space went
[10:40] <T-KILLER> this is stopping the FFMPEG-PHP from compiling properly
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> Surlent777: if your data is important, get a backup system
[10:41] <T-KILLER> can someone help to resolve this issue ?
[10:41] <Surlent777> ActionParsnip: Do you know why/how these recup_xxx files would show up?
[10:41] <Surlent777> I seem to recall seeing a similar phenomenon on one of my USB drives once, too
[10:41] <pkkm> I am using 'xinit $@ -- :1 -layout GameLayout', which initializes new X server session for games and I were switching by ctrl+alt+Fx, but now I my game hung up. how to kill X session?
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> Surlent777: not sure man, never come across anything like that
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> Surlent777: does the file command give any info
[10:42] <iceroot> pkkm: if you want restart your x-server   ctrl + alt + backspace
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> !dontzap
[10:42] <Surlent777> ActionParsnip: I'm not sure I understand the question
[10:42] <T-KILLER> Hello, I have compiled and installed the latest FFMPEG and now i am trying to compile and install the latest FFMPEG-PHP but an coming across the error "make: *** [ffmpeg_frame.lo] Error 1"
[10:43] <T-KILLER> this is stopping the FFMPEG-PHP from compiling properly
[10:43] <q0s> infinityxi, it works now. seems as would both flash versions mess each oth up. apt should forbid to install both ;)
[10:43] <Surlent777> ActionParsnip: the files I saw were mostly .txt files
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> Surlent777: file   is a command
[10:43] <pkkm> iceroot: I don't want to restart it, I want to kill it.
[10:43] <T-KILLER> can someone help to resolve this issue ?
[10:43] <infinityxi> q0s: how did you install them? through firefox?
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> Surlent777: the file extension means very little in linux
[10:43] <mrwes> Runny Jaunty here and I added the PPA for Open Office 3.1, but the update says packages were 'held' back, what causes that?
[10:43] <Surlent777> maybe so, but the ones I examined were indeed textual
[10:43] <Surlent777> structured like XML, I think
[10:43] <JNSamuel> bah
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> Surlent777: use the file command against one of your images, or an mp3 or something
[10:44] <infinityxi> q0s: i usually just stick with adobe as much as flash sucks because I know the other alternatives aren't really on par right now
[10:44] <pkkm> game is on ^ alt F9, and I am on ^ alt F7 now
[10:44] <zhurai> hm... apparently, after I "edited" the groups in "Users and Groups" I lost my /etc/group, which I restored...somewhat.  I got back audio,video,gdm,sudo,admin, but I can't access shutdown/restart, certain System->Administration things (such as User and Groups again, Services, etc) as well as I have no internet connection (I have Atheros, which worked out of the box before)
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> Surlent777: it will tell you what it is, it will say the same even if you change the file extension
[10:44] <pkkm> wut when I restart X session, probably GDM will start
[10:44] <pkkm> *but
[10:44] <zhurai> I need help on fixing this (preferably without reinstalling ubuntu 9.04 from scratch) >_>
[10:44] <mrwes> ActionParsnip, Runny Jaunty here and I added the PPA for Open Office 3.1, but the update says packages were 'held' back, what causes that?
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> Surlent777: so if you run the file command against these random files it will hopefuly not just say "Data" and will hopefully tell you what it is
[10:44] <T-KILLER> Hello, I have compiled and installed the latest FFMPEG and now i am trying to compile and install the latest FFMPEG-PHP but an coming across the error "make: *** [ffmpeg_frame.lo] Error 1"
[10:44] <q0s> infinityxi, i installed swfdec using firefox. but was not as stable as the not-free one is. so i decided later to install flash-nonfree paket with apt.
[10:45] <T-KILLER> can someone help to resolve this issue ?
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> mrwes: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:45] <guantanamo> is there any way of installing gnome 2.26 on ubuntu 8.10?
[10:45] <meganox> pkkm: so?  you can ^ alt F7 again and sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> mrwes: in future, please simply address the channel
[10:45] <Surlent777> ActionParsnip: 1. How would this command be invoked, and 2. I already deleted it all
[10:45] <mrwes> hrmm
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> Surlent777: 2. ah
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> Surlent777: 1. its a terminal command
[10:45] <zhurai> hm... apparently, after I "edited" the groups in "Users and Groups" I lost my /etc/group, which I restored...somewhat.  I got back audio,video,gdm,sudo,admin, but I can't access shutdown/restart, certain System->Administration things (such as User and Groups again, Services, etc) as well as I have no internet connection (I have Atheros, which worked out of the box before)... umm I need help on fixing this (preferably without reinstalling 
[10:45] <Surlent777> yes
[10:46] <Surlent777> but what arguments?
[10:46] <zhurai> =_=
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> Surlent777: file ~/Pictures/image.jpg for example
[10:46] <nixot> hi all
[10:46] <Surlent777> ok
[10:46] <mrwes> ActionParsnip, well thank :)
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> Surlent777: file <a file>
[10:46] <Surlent777> noted
[10:46] <nixot> I'm sorry for leaving last night. my internet crashed
[10:46] <Surlent777> I was thinking I needed -e but that did nothing
[10:46] <zhurai> T-KILLER: no clue, I never heard of FFMPEG-PHP before, sorry
[10:46] <T-KILLER> I have compiled and installed the latest FFMPEG and now I am trying to compile and install the latest FFMPEG-PHP but am coming across the error "make: *** [ffmpeg_frame.lo] Error 1"  someone help fix this please ?
[10:47] <nixot> I would like some help please..
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> Surlent777: if you use it on a jpg, then rename the jpg to png (not convert) file will still see the structure of a jpg and tell you its a jpg
[10:47] <macubuntu>  does anyone working on macpro, I just have one prob with my kbd....
[10:47] <Surlent777> well, I just got a crap-ton of HD space back from this ordeal...went from ~60 to ~147GB...that's pretty awesome in and of itself
[10:47] <T-KILLER> FFMPEG-PHP is a PHP extention to allow PHP to access video header data such as length, fps, codecs used, bitrate etc etc
[10:47] <zhurai> nixot: I would like some help too >_>... but wait your turn~ -_-
[10:47] <Surlent777> ActionParsnip: Good to know; thanks for the advice
[10:47] <infinityxi> T-KILLER: http://forums.theplanet.com/index.php?showtopic=90852
[10:47] <nixot> my question is: Is there a list of repositories I can add to my eee pc?
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> Surlent777: file extensions are a windows thing that they refuse to let go of from the old 6.3 filename days
[10:47] <zhurai> hm... apparently, after I "edited" the groups in "Users and Groups" I lost my /etc/group, which I restored...somewhat.  I got back audio,video,gdm,sudo,admin, but I can't access shutdown/restart, certain System->Administration things (such as User and Groups again, Services, etc) as well as I have no internet connection (I have Atheros, which worked out of the box before)... umm I need help on fixing this (preferably without reinstalling 
[10:47] <nixot> zhurai, I don't mean to interrupt.
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> 8.3 sorry
[10:48] <infinityxi> seems to be on par with your error though there is very little info to go on besides that error
[10:48] <Surlent777> ActionParsnip: Maybe, but it is terribly useful for organization
[10:48] <zhurai> nixot: meh
[10:48] <nixot> zhurai: :P
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> Surlent777: oh totally, you can name them anything you want
[10:48] <T-KILLER> infinityxi: thanks, just going to take a look
[10:48] <infinityxi> Surlent777: no they really aren't because they are arbitrary
[10:48] <infinityxi> i can name my text file textfile.mp3
[10:48] <zhurai> screwed up my /etc/group file, and now everything else is getting screwed up in ubuntu, and I have a frickin adware in this windows partition =_=
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> Surlent777: you'll find folks use .sh for shell scripts and .py for python but it doesnt make any difference :)
[10:49] <infinityxi> it just makes the filetype wrong in windows
[10:49] <Surlent777> ActionParsnip: I was meaning that it's nice when people stick to convention....for instance, it'd be great to know if ~/image is a picture or a tar file, for instance, without having to do extra work
[10:49] <nixot> infinityxi: Why would you want to do that?
[10:49] <zhurai> apparently, after I "edited" the groups in "Users and Groups" I lost my /etc/group, which I restored...somewhat.  I got back audio,video,gdm,sudo,admin, but I can't access shutdown/restart, certain System->Administration things (such as User and Groups again, Services, etc) as well as I have no internet connection (I have Atheros, which worked out of the box before)... umm I need help on fixing this (preferably without reinstalling ubuntu
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> Surlent777: precisely, but you can cross name if you wish
[10:49] <Surlent777> yeah, I realize that
[10:49] <T-KILLER> infinityxi: I have followed the thread you posted and it is of no use.  I'm using the 32 bit version of Ubuntu Server 9... Please help specific to 32 bit, thanks
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> Surlent777: or even make your own extension up that is very long
[10:49] <Guest86300> another question...in a makefile i have this line : "ARCH_DIR = $(if $(filter $(ARCH),x86_64 i386),x86,$(ARCH))" ....i would like to know the value of the ARCH-DIR variable....how could i do that?
[10:49] <zhurai> hm, I should make a timer that auto says that every 10 minutes or so =_=...bleh
[10:49] <infinityxi> T-KILLER: sorry about that
[10:49] <Surlent777> I got that idea from the "dot folders"
[10:49] <infinityxi> nixot: what are you talking about?
[10:50] <Surlent777> but yes, thanks for the advice, everyone
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> Guest86300: echo $ARCH_DIR
[10:50] <Surlent777> time to go to sleep, it's 3am here
[10:50] <Guest86300> ActionParsnip: i tried.....but nothing
[10:50] <zhurai> ...wow, he's in same timezone as me?
[10:50] <T-KILLER> infinityxi: I read the bit about the ffmpeg source code containing a file that was mis-named but i checked the source code folder and the file is named fine with the sextention *.lo not *.loT which was mentioned in the thred
[10:51] <lightbricko> In OpenOffice, How do I hide the "Page Number" from the first page in a document?
[10:51] <Guest86300> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/177071/
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> lightbricko: i'd ask in #openoffice.org
[10:51] <lightbricko> ActionParsnip: ok, thxc
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> Guest86300: why are you doing basic stuff like that as root?
[10:51] <infinityxi> lightbricko: http://www.tipsfor.us/2007/05/05/tip-of-the-day-hiding-the-first-page-number-in-openoffice/
[10:51] <infinityxi> it's all over the web
[10:52] <meganox> can anyone point me to any information at all that could help me troubleshoot why I can't burn CDs?  I don't know where to start.
[10:52] <Surlent777> OK, 1 more thing. Seems that there's a /root/.local/share/Trash or something like that
[10:52] <Surlent777> just how many Trash folders does one system need?!
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> meganox: what happens when you try? What apps have you tried to burn with?
[10:52] <nixot> is there a list of repositories that I could add to my computer anywhere on the web?
[10:52] <lightbricko> infinityxi: Thx
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> Surlent777: one for each user
[10:52] <Guest86300> long story but i have to know which is the value of ARCH_DIR could u help me?
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> !trash | Surlent777
[10:52] <Surlent777> =O
[10:53] <zhurai> hm... apparently, after I "edited" the groups in "Users and Groups" I lost my /etc/group, which I restored...somewhat.  I got back audio,video,gdm,sudo,admin, but I can't access shutdown/restart, certain System->Administration things (such as User and Groups again, Services, etc) as well as I have no internet connection (I have Atheros, which worked out of the box before)... umm I need help on fixing this (preferably without reinstalling 
[10:53] <Surlent777> I still have a ~./Trash folder
[10:53] <infinityxi> nixot: repositories for what?
[10:53] <zhurai> =_=
[10:53] <Surlent777> does this mean that it is now obsolete?
[10:53] <zhurai> x.x
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> Guest86300: if the variable is not being set a value it will report as nothing, set it to something first, then if it gets changed you know the command is working
[10:53] <infinityxi> nixot: specific software for what?
[10:53] <zhurai> I should go to sleep, almost 3 AM, but I need this fixed ;-;;;;;
[10:53] <nixot> Ermm
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> Guest86300: why are you doing stuff like that as root, are you logged in as root?
[10:54] <infinityxi> almost 6 am here
[10:54] <Guest86300> yes i'm logged as root
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> Guest86300: why?
[10:54] <meganox> ActionParsnip: all the available gnome apps, UNetbootlin.  I just get burn errors 3/4 of the way through every time, tried different media, i found some stuff online about scsi or ata emulation of ide but i can't find it again
[10:54] <nixot> infinityxi: I'm not really specific about what software, it's really a variety of programs that I can't find in what repositories it came with.
[10:54] <ReiNDeer> Hey all! Any link/help on adding an icon to the Panel, that tells if certain program is running or not? Could simply be like red/green light and program name when mouse is over it.. any help would be nice..
[10:54] <infinityxi> prancing around as root is pretty dangerous
[10:54] <ReiNDeer> msg me thx..
[10:54] <zhurai> infinityxi: I'm a high school student, and I have school tomorrow, that's what I mean -_-
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> meganox: did you md5 check the iso? are you burning as slowly as possible?
[10:55] <meganox> ActionParsnip: i thought it might have something to do with the change from /dev/hdX to /dev/sdX
[10:55] <Guest86300> because i'm developping some kernel for my bachelor's degree and i need root privileges
[10:55] <zhurai> apparently, after I "edited" the groups in "Users and Groups" I lost my /etc/group, which I restored...somewhat.  I got back audio,video,gdm,sudo,admin, but I can't access shutdown/restart, certain System->Administration things (such as User and Groups again, Services, etc) as well as I have no internet connection (I have Atheros, which worked out of the box before)... umm I need help on fixing this (preferably without reinstalling ubuntu
[10:55] <nixot> infinityxi: Debian repositories preferably.
[10:55] <Guest86300> kernel modules
[10:55] <nixot> brb getting my charger
[10:55] <Surlent777> ok, whose Trash is in .local here? Root again, or mine?
[10:55] <meganox> ActionParsnip: isos are fine, also all the GUI tools try to burn at max speed no matter what I select
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> Guest86300: ok well you know all about root account enablement being bad and full access possibly breaking stuff
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> meganox: brasero doesnt
[10:56] <zhurai> *gnome-system-tools apparently actually O_o
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> meganox: just before you hit the last burn button, click properties
[10:56] <zhurai> apparently, after I "edited" the groups in "Users and Groups" I lost my /etc/group, which I restored...somewhat.  I got back audio,video,gdm,sudo,admin, but I can't access shutdown/restart, certain System->Administration things (gnome-system-tools) as well as I have no internet connection (I have Atheros, which worked out of the box before)... umm I need help on fixing this (preferably without reinstalling ubuntu 9.04 from scratch) >_>
[10:56] <Guest86300> ActionParsnip: i have not understand
[10:56] <nixot> back
[10:56] <meganox> ActionParsnip: yes, i select the lowest speed but then the output tells me it's attempting the highest speed
[10:56] <Surlent777> relax zhurai, your last message still on screen
[10:56] <Surlent777> is^
[10:57] <infinityxi> Guest86300: you can do all that stuff on a need to do basis using sudo
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> Guest86300: enabling the root account is not needed nor advised for security reasons. You can access anything you need as user using sudo and gksudo
[10:57] <zhurai> =_=
[10:57] <Guest86300> yes yes i know but i prefer this way.... :D
[10:57] <meganox> ActionParsnip: i though lots of people had had similar problems, but i'm just not finding anything relevant today
[10:57] <Name141> I have tried unetbootin-windows-323.exe , to try and make a bootable flash drive.  I select the Ubuntu ISO, and it goes through the process OK.  Then when I restart to try to boot from the flash drive, it says "boot failed".
[10:57] <Surlent777> ...this .local trash seems to be much the same as the /root/.Trash
[10:57] <infinityxi> you can write your code under your personal account and when you need to do anything that needs root, you can always sudo or gksudo like ActionParsnip suggestd
[10:57] <nixot> infinityxi: I was looking for debian repositories... I'm a bit of a linux noob
[10:58] <infinityxi> nixot: packages.debian.org is a good place to start
[10:58] <cyberjorge> what's the command to open xorg in gedit?
[10:58] <zhurai> hm... might have something to do with: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/gnome-system-tools/+bug/236305  (my bug...somewhat) ?
[10:58] <infinityxi> nixot: they have info and lists on that site
[10:58] <zhurai> =_=
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> Guest86300: root is common to all *nix systems so hackers need nowonly guess your root password, if the account is disabled there is a 0% chance of success, an attacker would have to gues your user name and password
[10:58] <Surlent777> Name141: Try redownloading the ISO
[10:58] <Name141> Surlent777: the MD5Sum came up fine
[10:58] <nixot> OK
[10:58] <zhurai> cyberjorge: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:58] <Name141> Surlent777: this happened with DSL also
[10:58] <Surlent777> Name141: Then I have no idea =/ Unetbootin has always worked for me
[10:59] <meganox> Guest86300: you can use the command "sudo -i" to get into a root shell
[10:59] <macubuntu> is anybody working with macpro and ubuntu 9.04 ??????????????????????????
[10:59] <Surlent777> I just used it to install 9.04 on a friend's laptop last week
[10:59] <Guest86300> meganox: ok thank u
[10:59] <Surlent777> no, we have taste
[10:59] <nixot> infnityxi: Should I add it like that to the package manager?
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> Guest86300: running web apps (especialy irc clients) is massively foolhardy as these are exposed to the world and can easily be captured and their access level gained. If this is a user level the system access is massively reduced
[10:59] <rioch> I've created an ext3 partition on a usb drive, but when I plug it in it mounts as root (automatically). So, I can't write to it. How can I change that?
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> Guest86300: the account is not disabled to annoy you or to get in your way, its dont for a million very good reasons
[11:00] <Guest86300> i'm using irc chat in another machine...not in the one i'm logged in as root
[11:00] <Name141> Surlent777: should I try some kind of manual ways of going about it?
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> Guest86300: i'm just telling you why logging on as root is hideosly bad
[11:00] <meganox> ActionParsnip: can you tell me, the "s" in "/dev/sda1", does it stand for SCSI or SATA?
[11:00] <Guest86300> ok now i know....thank u
[11:00] <Surlent777> Name141: hmm, idea. Try deleting the parition you have on the USB drive, and then manually re-creating a Fat32
[11:00] <cyberjorge> zhurai: thanks, one more... how about menu.list under grub?
[11:01] <Surlent777> partition*
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> Guest86300: i'd ask in #bash for your script thing. They will have a lot of info
[11:01] <infinityxi> Guest86300: but what if you accidentally run a script or a program that has unchecked access to your file system
[11:01] <infinityxi> or what if you do something dumb (happens to the best of us)
[11:01] <Lint01> are there some CUI analogs to Synaptic?
[11:01] <icqn> what is wrong with ubuntu? has something changed? there are rare updates for january, and no body replies to the bugs i have submitted, about craches in nautilus, acpi issues on my laptop...
[11:01] <infinityxi> not being root covers your ass a lot better
[11:01] <Name141> Surlent777: I'm unable to delete partition on the flash drive in Disk Management
[11:01] <Surlent777> wat
[11:01] <cyberjorge> zhurai: sudo /boot/grub/menu.list doesn't work
[11:01] <Surlent777> use sudo gparted
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> meganox: my PATA disks pick up as sda in all my systems. I'm not sure
[11:01] <infinityxi> cyberjorge: i think you forgot the gedit part
[11:02] <Surlent777> cyberjorge: that is a text file. Use sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:02] <meganox> ActionParsnip: OK thanks anyway
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> and gksudo instead of sudo
[11:02] <Surlent777> or that
[11:02] <meganox> will keep trawling
[11:02] <xukun> is possible to send all sound to pulseaudio using the spdif? I now have sound on some programs and some not
[11:02] <infinityxi> yeah ActionParsnip made me learn something today. use gksudo
[11:02] <Lint01> icqn, that's how FOSS works...
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> infinityxi: gksudo is for gui apps like gedit, nautilus etc
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> infinityxi: sudo is for stuff like, mv, ln, cp, rm  etc
[11:02] <Flannel> Lint01: What do you mean?
[11:02] <infinityxi> ActionParsnip: i know you told me earlier, tell the other guy
[11:02] <Name141> Surlent777: Would it be possible just to have a LIVE disk version of it with it on Flash rather than DVD
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> infinityxi: :D
[11:03] <infinityxi> ActionParsnip: I am telling you that i learned this from you earlier, and i am passing on good info :-)
[11:03] <Surlent777> ActionParsnip: I've noticed that like, in KDE for instance, gksudo nautilus --no-desktop won't work, but changing gksudo to sudo makes it work
[11:03] <Surlent777> Name141: I assumed that's what you were doing to begin with
[11:03] <unimatrix9> hi there
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> Surlent777: kde uses kdesudo to achieve the same end
[11:03] <bluepencil> Guys, what would be the easiest way to transfer a file from one Ubuntu machine to the Other?
[11:03] <Surlent777> ActionParsnip: But gksudo works with other things under KDE, such as Synaptic
[11:03] <meganox> Surlent777: gksudo 'nautilus --no-desktop' works for me, for some reason that command needs quotes
[11:04] <unimatrix9> how well does 9.10 perform? is it better then 9.04?
[11:04] <infinityxi> bluepencil: sftp
[11:04] <Name141> Surlent777: Yes.  I tried copying the files manually on to the flash drive, still no dice.
[11:04] <Flannel> ActionParsnip, Surlent777: kdesu, kdesudo doesn't exist.
[11:04] <icqn> Lint01, bull...t, it is how ubuntu works, do not mix all in one cup
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> bluepencil: shared folder on one system
[11:04] <Flannel> unimatrix9: 9.10 doesn't perform yet ;)
[11:04] <meganox> unimatrix9: you from the future?
[11:04] <unimatrix9> Flannel daily build
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> Flannel: works here, strange. Maybe because i upgraded(?)
[11:04] <bluepencil> ActionParsnip: i did share one folder, but when i say Connect to Server, i type the IP address of the target machine, and it states cant open smb share.
[11:04] <unimatrix9> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/
[11:04] <zhurai> can someone with jaunty put their /etc/group file on pastebin for me please?
[11:04] <Flannel> unimatrix9: #ubuntu+1, 9.10 doesn't exist, Karmic does.
[11:04] <unimatrix9> 9.10 daily build
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> bluepencil: can you ping the ip?
[11:05] <Lint01> anyway, are there some CUI analogs to Synaptic?
[11:05] <bluepencil> Yes mate
[11:05] <zhurai> ..x.x
[11:05] <infinityxi> aptitude
[11:05] <Surlent777> Name141: Copying manually is a poor idea unless you know what you're doing. My advice is to gksudo gparted, unmount the USB, delete the partition, apply, recreate Fat32, apply, remount the USB, open unetbootin, choose the iso, hit OK
[11:05] <jimi_> hi guys, how do i edit the registry in ubuntu
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> !samba | bluepencil
[11:05] <DjAngo23> Hey, is there a way to change the default program to open a for example .php file, via console. Because with open with, choose application, it does not save my preferences...
[11:05] <infinityxi> Lint01: aptitude should work
[11:05] <unimatrix9> so i guess we dont know yet..
[11:05] <Name141> Surlent777: eh?
[11:05] <bluepencil> ActionParsnip: i go Connect to Server: Windows Share etc
[11:05] <Name141> Surlent777: those are linux commands
 hi guys, how do i edit the registry in ubuntu <-- unless you mean gconf, there isn't a registry
[11:05] <Surlent777> ...ohhhhh
[11:05] <Surlent777> you're on Windows
[11:05] <Surlent777> uh
[11:05] <Flannel> unimatrix9: Again, #ubuntu+1 is for the development version, this channel is not.
[11:05] <Surlent777> huh
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> bluepencil: then i'd check samba settings
[11:05] <FloodBot2> Surlent777: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:05] <infinityxi> jimi_: what are you trying to do?
[11:06] <unimatrix9> ok,  i see
[11:06] <q0s> hey guys. at startup an application asks for access to my keyring. but there is nothing about any application name. how can i found out whats going on?
[11:06] <bluepencil> ActionParsnip: could it be that samba isnt active on the other machine?
[11:06] <Name141> Surlent777: that's correct.
[11:06] <DjAngo23> Hey, is there a way to change the default program to open a for example .php file, via console. Because with open with, choose application, it does not save my preferences ?
[11:06] <bluepencil> ActionParsnip: there are about 50 ubuntu machines here.
[11:06] <jimi_> infinityxi, doing a tweak for frame rate performance in wow, im trying to get wow working in ubunutu
[11:06] <Flannel> !repeat | DjAngo23
[11:06] <zhurai> apparently, after I "edited" the groups in "Users and Groups" I lost my /etc/group, which I restored...somewhat.  I got back audio,video,gdm,sudo,admin, but I can't access shutdown/restart, certain System->Administration things (gnome-system-tools) as well as I have no internet connection (I have Atheros, which worked out of the box before)... umm I need help on fixing this (preferably without reinstalling ubuntu 9.04 from scratch) >_> ||
[11:06] <T-KILLER> I have compiled and installed the latest 32 bit FFMPEG and now I am trying to compile and install the latest FFMPEG-PHP but am coming across the error "make: *** [ffmpeg_frame.lo] Error 1"  someone help fix this please ?
[11:06] <infinityxi> jimi_: oh so you mean in wine
[11:06] <zhurai> =_= the more wait, the more I think up of, the longer my message apparently
[11:06] <jimi_> infinityxi, aye
[11:06] <Name141> Surlent777: maybe I'll just go back to hardy till the next LTS.. if I go back
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> bluepencil: you will have an smbclient app on each system, you need to install samba on the server system so the sharing will work
[11:06] <Lint01> infinityxi: isn't aptitude CLI package manager?
[11:07] <Surlent777> Name141: I'm actually not sure how to do that under Windows...but I know that reformatting the partition makes it work just fine...try just doing regular format from the right-click menu
[11:07] <Flannel> Lint01: Isn't that what you asked for?
[11:07] <infinityxi> Lint01: oh i thought that's what you were asking for
[11:07] <jimi_> infinityxi, im just following a tut for it on winehq and it says to open the reg editor
[11:07] <DjAngo23> !patience
[11:07] <bluepencil> ActionParsnip: Ah ok, makes sense, thanks.
[11:07] <Name141> Surlent777: I have reformatted it many times.
[11:07] <bluepencil> ActionParsnip: The Windows share works fine when i connect from Win machines to this ubuntu box.
[11:07] <Surlent777> Name141: All I know is that manually killing it and doing it again works for me. And I have gotten the 9.04 ISO's to work, both 32 and 64, with unetbootin
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> bluepencil: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install samba
[11:08] <bluepencil> ActionParsnip: its only when i try to connect to the win share on this machine from an Ubuntu machine that it freak sout.
[11:08] <meganox> zhurai: pasting it now
[11:08] <bluepencil> ActionParsnip: Ok sweet dude, going to try that now.
[11:08] <infinityxi> jimi_: in console type in "wine regedit"
[11:08] <bluepencil> ActionParsnip: Will let you know how it worked out.
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> bluepencil: that will give you a sharing server
[11:08] <zhurai> meganox: k, thanks
[11:08] <Name141> Surlent777: I remember getting a USB hard drive to work, so I don't understand why a flash drive wouldn't.
[11:08] <Lint01> infinityxi: I need one with text user interface, not just command-line
[11:08] <Flannel> Lint01: run "aptitide"
[11:08] <Name141> Surlent777: given the fact that the USB hard drive was a disaster slow idea
[11:08] <infinityxi> Lint01: it is a text user interface
[11:08] <jimi_> infinityxi, ty :)
[11:09] <infinityxi> try typing aptitude
[11:09] <infinityxi> see what happens.
[11:09] <Name141> Surlent777: Perhaps I should try doing the same, IE: installing to the flash drive ?
[11:09] <Surlent777> Name141: Unetbootin has never failed me, is all I know. It's all but foolproof...I'm not sure if formatting the drive is required, but I do it anyway to make sure there's nothing left over that shouldn't be
[11:09] <Name141> Surlent777: from the DVD
[11:09] <Surlent777> wait, since when does Ubuntu have a DVD?
[11:09] <Name141> Surlent777: "CD"
[11:09] <Flannel> Surlent777: Good long while now.
[11:09] <Raj> Hi can i use IE in ubuntu
[11:09] <infinityxi> ie version what?
[11:09] <Surlent777> Flannel: I thought that was the so-called "Super" Ubuntu?
[11:09] <zhurai> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=560404 <-- same bug/error as me, but nobody's really replying, so it doesn't help...
[11:10] <bluepencil> ActionParsnip, ok seems ive already got it.
[11:10] <filthpig> Hi, has anybody in here tried 9.04 FINAL on the Asus Eee 900? I see some bugs reported with the beta that is noted "Hopefully fixed by final", but are they??
[11:10] <zhurai> Raj: ie4linux
[11:10] <bluepencil> ActionParsnip, on the file serving machine.
[11:10] <Name141> Surlent777: I have been thinking about getting the dell version of Ubuntu anyway that's on DVD
[11:10] <zhurai> or whatever it was
[11:10] <Lint01> infinityxi: oh, really. thanks!
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> bluepencil: ok thats good
[11:10] <Flannel> Surlent777: Erm, what?  No.  Regular Ubuntu releases a DVD as well.  I've got no idea what you think this super ubuntu is ;)
[11:10] <infinityxi> Lint01: np
[11:10] <bluepencil> ActionParsnip, anything special i need to do on the client's machine's side?
[11:10] <Surlent777> Flannel: It isn't on ubuntu.com is all I know
[11:10] <meganox> zhurai: http://pastebin.com/d36cb880e
[11:10] <Raj> Any latest IE because Iam familier with that
[11:10] <Surlent777> and just wiki for Super Ubuntu for info on that
[11:10] <infinityxi> is super ubuntu the one with the bonzai buddy installed?
[11:11] <Flannel> Surlent777: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/release/
[11:11] <Name141> What's the difference anyway with the dell version of Ubuntu?  Do they have anything special for Dell hardware
[11:11] <meganox> zhurai: "testy" is an admin user so you can replace that username with yours.  I removed other usernames so there may be extra commas you need to remove
[11:11] <Name141> (compatability)
[11:11] <zhurai> k
[11:11] <Raj> Hi anybody reply me
[11:11] <IndyGunFreak> Name141: well if you buy a machine w/ ubuntu installed, its pretty much guaranteed everything will work.
[11:11] <infinityxi> Name141: I think they have some dell repos and packages for drivers they ship, as well as some branding
[11:11] <nixot> infinityx: With your help I managed to install the program I needed.
[11:12] <nixot> I mean of course, infinityxi
 Hi anybody reply me <-- IE isn't made for Linux.
[11:12] <infinityxi> oh and the mp3 and DVD playback is paid for and legit
[11:12] <Name141> infinityxi: So I might should try it if I have a problem with something not working off bat from the regular CDs?
[11:12] <nixot> infinityxi: With your help I installed the program I needed from a repository... Thank you very much :D
[11:12] <gordonjcp> Raj: zhurai already said, ies4linux
[11:12] <filthpig> Name141: Yes, they have added a proprietary graphics driver for the 10" version, and they have made their own interface (a bit like the Xandros/Linus distros but with a twist)
[11:12] <Surlent777> what the ...?! THIS WASN
[11:12] <IndyGunFreak> Name141: it all depends on your hardware, theres a lot of different dells out there.
[11:12] <Surlent777> 'T HERE BEFORE
[11:13] <gordonjcp> Raj: the fonts are a bit different but it will show up gross rendering bugs in IE
[11:13] <infinityxi> Dells are weird, the same model may have dozens of different hardware configs
[11:13] <infinityxi> and this is annoying in the windows world
[11:13] <Raj> zhurai: Thankyou I have no internet connection but i want to install codecs for many media formats such as mp3 etc., how can i do
[11:13] <gordonjcp> Raj: What exactly are you trying to do?
[11:13] <indus> hi folks
[11:13] <Surlent777> what does the DVD have that the CD doesn't?
[11:13] <Name141> IndyGunFreak: mine didn't come with Ubuntu, it came with XP.  However, I have been having a problem with the NIC (Possible the new e1000e vs e1000 module?) since Intrepid and up
[11:13] <zhurai> if you have no internet connection
[11:13] <zhurai> how are you on IRC?
[11:14] <Name141> IndyGunFreak: I was guessing that maybe the Dell DVD would have the correct thing already/
[11:14] <Name141> ?
[11:14] <IndyGunFreak> Name141: i would say thats unlikely
[11:14] <Name141> IndyGunFreak: Ok.
[11:14] <IndyGunFreak> Name141: the dell version of ubuntu, is made for dell pc's that they install ubuntu on... i mean it might work.. but its a crapshoot.
[11:14] <infinityxi> Name141: you might have to mess with ndiswrapper
[11:14] <Surlent777> oh man, never mind...I need to get to bed...
[11:15] <infinityxi> as much as i hate messing with ndiswrapper or recommending it
[11:15] <infinityxi> if you have no other option but to use that NIC
[11:15] <Name141> infinityxi: It's odd that it just went "BOOOOOOOM" in Intrepid and now Jaunty.
[11:15] <infinityxi> oh
[11:15] <IndyGunFreak> Name141: i've really never had an NIC not work w/ Ubuntu.. wireless, is another story.
[11:15] <Name141> infinityxi: It worked perfect in Hardy
[11:16] <infinityxi> sounds like a bug report
[11:16] <Name141> IndyGunFreak: it works sometimes, doens't work sometimes.. when it works.. if I reset the modem/router it wont work again till a reboot/blue moon
[11:16] <Name141> IndyGunFreak: http://hardware4linux.info/component/34798/
[11:16] <Name141> that's all I find on it
[11:17] <IndyGunFreak> Name141: are you using 64bit?
[11:17] <Name141> No
[11:17] <Name141> IndyGunFreak: I was thinking about buying the AMD 64 bit ,but got the intel dual core.
[11:17] <Name141> (not that that matters)
[11:18] <IndyGunFreak> Name141: well, that wasn't the point, some drivers are still shaky w/ the 64bit distros... i was goign to suggest trying the 32bit, even if you had 64bit hardware..
[11:18] <IndyGunFreak> Name141: how does lspci identify your ethernet controlle?
[11:18] <Name141> IndyGunFreak: It wasn't shaky in Hardy.  But soon as I tried the LIVE CD on Intrepid and Jaunty, it just sits there and tries to connect but never does.
[11:18] <IndyGunFreak> NIC controller... sorry, tired
[11:19] <Name141> IndyGunFreak: The same as Windows
[11:19] <zhurai> zzz
[11:19] <Name141> IndyGunFreak: Intel 	82562V-2 10/100 Network Connection
[11:19] <infinityxi> yeah worst case scenario would be to use ndiswrapper but i hate that solution because if you get a kernel update, you usually have to go back and redo it.
[11:19] <jimi_> hi peeps, i have just visted  intellinuxgraphics.org and they have a driver i wana test so i can get WoW working....i have downloaded tem but im not sure how to run and install them cause im new at linux
[11:19] <Name141> infinityxi: ndiswrapper?
[11:19] <jimi_> also there is a 2d and a 3d driver, do i need to install both?
[11:19] <IndyGunFreak> Name141: lspci is that the output of lspci or is that how its identified in windows?
[11:19] <infinityxi> Name141: yeah it basically uses a windows driver for your hardware in linux
[11:20] <infinityxi> it's a very last resort sort of solution
[11:20] <Name141> IndyGunFreak: I checked before , and yes it is the same
[11:20] <Name141> infinityxi: maybe I should try that on my sound too, the sound was low low lowww
[11:20] <Name141> infinityxi: (in ubuntu)
[11:21] <infinityxi> Name141: you checked all the volume controls? mine was low on this laptop until i upped the general speaker volume
[11:22] <Name141> infinityxi: Yes
[11:22] <erUSUL> jimi_: what graphic card do you have ?
[11:22] <infinityxi> ndiswrapper is just for network devices though. should have been more specific
[11:22] <Name141> infinityxi: I had everything to 100% and still couldn't compare to restarting and the windows login blowing my ears off
[11:22] <jimi_> intel integrated
[11:22] <jimi_> erUSUL, intel integrated, its a laptop
[11:23] <erUSUL> jimi_: and 3d accel is not working by default ?
[11:23] <jimi_> erUSUL, i can run WoW, i just need to sort th frame rate out and apparently thats what this driver has fixed
[11:24] <infinityxi> There are a few threads out there about low sound on 9.04
[11:24] <infinityxi> worth checking out
[11:24] <erUSUL> jimi_: are you on jaunty ?
[11:24] <indus> infinityxi: yeah sound keeps changing with every restart
[11:24] <jimi_> erUSUL, here is the link to the website im downloading them from http://intellinuxgraphics.org/2009Q1.html ......yeah I am on jaunty
[11:24] <Name141> infinityxi: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/217789
[11:25] <IndyGunFreak> Name141: doesn't look like you're the only one w/ the connection problem (unless this is you)  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1156279
[11:25] <ginigino> ciao
[11:26] <Name141> IndyGunFreak: I'm still Name141 on the forums
[11:26]  * cllaudyu bored
[11:26] <Name141> IndyGunFreak: same PC also he has
[11:26] <erUSUL> jimi_: all those drivers are in source. and is far from trivial to install them... i recommend to find a ppa where to get them compiled
[11:26] <erUSUL> !ppa | jimi_
[11:27] <Name141> IndyGunFreak: maybe I should just give up on Linux.
[11:27] <ginigino> ciao
[11:27] <ginigino> !lista
[11:27] <jimi_> erUSUL, ok i dont really understand that but i will give it a read and give it a go lol...ty :)
[11:27] <Name141> IndyGunFreak: this also happens in Fedora10
[11:27] <IndyGunFreak> Name141: thats up to you really.. i wouldn't, but only you can make that call... maybe try another distro.
[11:28] <Name141> IndyGunFreak: as I said.. lol
[11:28] <erUSUL> jimi_: ppa are repositories with packages
[11:28] <ptym3k> bonjour
[11:28] <jimi_> erUSUL, like the deb things
[11:28] <erUSUL> jimi_: yep
[11:28] <IndyGunFreak> Name141: well theres more out there than just ubuntu and fedora. you could try pclinuxos or opensuse.. but usually ubuntu and fedora have about the best hardware support (in my experience)
[11:28] <jimi_> erUSUL, ok im reading the packaging guide now
[11:28] <erUSUL> !notes | jimi_ also check the notes about intel gaph
[11:29] <Name141> IndyGunFreak: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=705866
[11:29] <harr> hello
[11:29] <Name141> IndyGunFreak: the sound is also a problem it appears
[11:29] <harr> how do I get ALSA again on my sound defs?
[11:30] <IndyGunFreak> Name141: I really don'tknow to be truthful.. i dn't have any of those issues on my acer
[11:30] <Raj> I have installed ubuntu in my PC that does not have internet connection but i want to install some media codecs such as mp3,3gp Etc., how can i do ?
[11:30] <Raj> zhurai: I am in my friend system
[11:30] <Raj> zhurai: that is in my friend browsing centre
[11:30] <Raj> zhurai: pls help me to install the codecs
[11:30] <harr> yesterday I've started getting the sounfd much lesser than 12% than normal
[11:30] <harr> and alsda wasn't there any more
[11:30] <Name141> IndyGunFreak: I reckon I'll just keep saying what I said on my other computer "maybe the next release".
[11:30] <harr> I've resbooted ( live session ) and isn't there still
[11:31] <harr> rebooted*
[11:31] <Raj> is there any body to help me
[11:31] <indus> Raj: yes
[11:31] <indus> damn
[11:31] <Name141> IndyGunFreak: it's odd though that my old computer, besides the VooDoo3 3DFX 8MB , works perfect right off bat.  Even with a Microsoft NIC that uses the "tulip" drive.
[11:31] <Name141> driver
[11:32] <IndyGunFreak> Name141: i guess i've just been incredibly lucky, other than wireless, i've really never had a driver issue w/ Linux.. and my wireless has worked fine since 8.04
[11:32] <IndyGunFreak> well, since 8.10.. 8.04 i had to apply a bunch of patches and crap.
[11:32] <hakimda> somebody can you help me.. when i apply the burn effect when minimizing windows , it works only at compizconfig setting manager windows but other window.. how to apply to other window?
[11:32] <oDesk> hello i've just descovered the nice "envyng" package looking for something similar for the audio driver!!
[11:33] <IndyGunFreak> oDesk: lol, i'm not sure if
[11:33] <Name141> I think 8.10 should have been called "look what we did to Hardy"
[11:33] <Name141> but anyway.
[11:33] <IndyGunFreak> oDesk: i'm' not sure if nice is the word i'd use for envy
[11:33] <ham9000> hi, is there a guide for upgrading from gutsy?
[11:33] <IndyGunFreak> Name141: you can say that for any release to be truthful...
[11:34] <blastoise_> hey, i have this ext partition that i am trying to dump ( using strings ) to a file. now, i am pretty positive this partition is corrupted because every time i read to a certain point my computer freezes unrecoverably. is there a way to get the data off?
[11:34] <blastoise_> ext3*
[11:34] <oDesk> IndyGunFreak: nice, because i love it =) since it's solved my Graphic Adaptor
[11:34] <IndyGunFreak> oDesk: wait till it breaks it.. you won't like it so much
[11:34] <oDesk> IndyGunFreak: now i'm looking! for my Audio detector LOVE =)
[11:35] <hakimda> somebody can you help me.. when i apply the burn effect when minimizing windows , it works only at compizconfig setting manager windows but not to other window.. how to apply to other window?
[11:35] <IndyGunFreak> !compiz | hakimda
[11:35] <amagee> hey, what's the best way to install ubuntu on a usb pen drive (with a proper install, not as an equivalent to a live-cd)?
[11:36] <oladejo> i need someone to explain what happen to my I can only use tty1-6 no more tty7 GUI after upgrade from 8.04 to 9.04
[11:36] <IndyGunFreak> amagee: are you trying to install ON a pendrive, or boot a pen drive, to install it on your hard drive
[11:36] <amagee> IndyGunFreak: install ON a pendrive
[11:36] <IndyGunFreak> amagee: or for that matter, just use a pen drive as a "live cd".
[11:37] <IndyGunFreak> amagee: ah, theres tutorials out there.. most with marginal success at best, i've never had much luck w/ it
[11:37] <IndyGunFreak> why not just install normally?
[11:37] <amagee> oh ok, so there's not one favourite way by ubuntu people?
[11:37] <amagee> i can't install normally coz i want to run it on lab computers that i don't own
[11:37] <IndyGunFreak> ic.
[11:37]  * cllaudyu listens to VIBE FM - Dancefloor Radio
[11:38] <amagee> i'll probably try this.. does this seem reasonable? http://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-ubuntu-904-persistent-install-windows/
[11:38] <IndyGunFreak> you can try it...
[11:38] <amagee> kinda amusing that it requires a windows tool to install linux :)
[11:38] <Boohbah> amagee: is it a requirement that the filesystem is writable?
[11:38] <amagee> Boohbah: yeah, i need to be able to install stuff and modify files etc
[11:39] <Boohbah> amagee: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[11:40] <KingKimi> ham9000, you must upgrade in sequence of all other releases to get jaunty
[11:40] <badfish69> is tor no longer in the repos
[11:40] <amagee> Boohbah: looks very interesting.. have you had success with these?
[11:41] <blastoise_> hey, i have this ext3 partition that i am trying to dump ( using strings ) to a file. now, i am pretty positive this partition is corrupted because every time i read to a certain point my computer freezes unrecoverably. is there a way to get the data off?
[11:41] <hakimda> thanks
[11:41] <Boohbah> amagee: i have not tried it myself, only made a non-writable install image
[11:41] <hakimda> i figure it out....
[11:41] <amagee> hmm ok
[11:43] <macubuntu>  does anyone working on macpro, I just have one prob with my kbd....
[11:43] <ozzmosis> blastoise_: if the computer is freezing then I suspect the HDD is dying
[11:43] <hakimda> one more
[11:43] <Lint01> when I'm trying to mount the FAT drive using iocharset=utf8, i'm getting boot-time warning that "utf-8 is not recommended because the file system will be read-only". But any other value makes lon file names tollok like garbage. What should I do?
[11:43] <indus> amagee: why dont you use usb disk creator from system.admin > usb creator
[11:43] <ozzmosis> blastoise_: might be worth running something like Spinrite on it
[11:43] <icqn> what is wrong with ubuntu? has something changed? there are rare updates for january, and no body replies to the bugs i have submitted, about crashes in nautilus, acpi issues on my laptop...
[11:43] <flintwingel> blastoise_: if your disk is genuinely corrupt data recovery is unlikely without help of a specialist
[11:43] <hakimda> how to change the gnome logo beside the application to mac logo?
[11:43] <blastoise_> dammmmmmmmmiiiiiiiiiiittttttttttttttttt
[11:43] <Lint01> damn, not "read-only", "case sensitive", that is
[11:44] <indus> mechdave: hi
[11:44] <Lint01> icqn: there was update last week
[11:44] <mechdave> Yo indus
[11:46] <ub_> I have problem playing som podcasts in rythembox. The programs shows up, but would`nt play: http://podkast.nrk.no/program/radioresepsjonen.rss
[11:47] <T-KILLER> I have compiled and installed the latest 32 bit FFMPEG and now I am trying to compile and install the latest FFMPEG-PHP but am coming across the error "make: *** [ffmpeg_frame.lo] Error 1"  someone help fix this please ?
[11:47] <ozzmosis> ub_: just that feed?
[11:47] <kdc1956> anyone here know how to get 3D working on 9.04
[11:48] <ub_> ozzmosis: yes?
[11:48] <ozzmosis> ub_: looks like a valid feed viewing it in Firefox
[11:48] <thuglife999> Hello room
[11:48] <hakimda> how to change the gnome logo beside the application to mac logo?
[11:49] <thuglife999> just need lil help about KDE desktop
[11:49] <ozzmosis> ub_: Rhythmbox might be choking on the URLs of the MP3s
[11:49] <ozzmosis> ub_: they're also using an unusual number of redirects
[11:49] <thuglife999> at the moment i am installing KDE package files through synaptic package manager
[11:49] <ozzmosis> ub_: does RB do any logging?
[11:49] <Lint01> ub_: isn't Rhythmbox R.I.P?
[11:49] <ozzmosis> Lint01: really?
[11:49] <thuglife999> so after that will i be able to choose between GNOME OR KDE at boot up session?
[11:50] <thuglife999> Helloooooooooo any 1 there????
[11:50] <bluepencil> Is the ftp port 21 service off by default?
[11:50] <bluepencil> because im trying to ftp localhost 21 and it states connection refused.
[11:51] <Lint01> ozzmosis: I think I've read than 0.12 was the last release
[11:51] <ozzmosis> bluepencil: I think all services are off by default
[11:51] <thuglife999> HELP NEEDED ABOUT KDE?????
[11:51] <bluepencil> ozzmosis, ah ok, how would i turn ftp on for instance?
[11:51] <ozzmosis> Lint01: sounds a bit odd .. maybe someone will fork it
[11:51] <ozzmosis> bluepencil: Administration -> Services, I think
[11:52] <thuglife999> :-$
[11:52] <ub_> ozzmosis: Ok, it works in firefox. No logging in RB. just "Status: failed" when i click one of the casts
[11:52] <thuglife999> can any1 help me out there?????????????????
[11:52] <montmartrubuntu>  does anyone working on macpro, I just have one prob with my kbd....
[11:53] <shervin> I need help. I upgraded from hardy to jaunty. And now X is dead somehow. I have tried fixing it with recovery mode, I have tried autorepair packages and nothing works. Which log files can I look at to distinguish the problem?
[11:53] <ozzmosis> bluepencil: might have to apt-get install an FTP server first.  never done it.  file transfer is more secure over SSH these days, a lot of people just use that.
[11:53] <thuglife999> i said help??????
[11:53] <indus> thuglife999: tell ur question
[11:53] <indus> !ask
[11:53] <ozzmosis> ub_: probably a bug
[11:54] <shervin> I have tried xfix, dpkg Repair Broken packages but nothing works. I am stuck
[11:54] <ub_> ozzmosis: What kind of mediaplayer do you use?
[11:55] <bluepencil> ozzmosis, hey man, if you were 10.0.0.1 and wanted a file called Bob.txt from /home/bob on 10.0.0.2, what commands would you use to retrieve it? (via ssh)?
[11:55] <ozzmosis> ub_: RhythmBox in Ubuntu or Winamp in XP
[11:55] <badfish69> foobar in win7
[11:56] <thuglife999> indus: i am going to install KDE on ubuntu8.10
[11:56] <ozzmosis> bluepencil: scp bob@10.0.0.2:Bob.txt .
[11:56] <indus> thuglife999: and >?
[11:56] <bluepencil> ozzmosis, lol, thats it?
[11:56] <ozzmosis> bluepencil: yup
[11:56] <thuglife999> indus:  will i be able to play both applications on both desktops
[11:56] <bluepencil> ozzmosis, lol, k thanks dude. thanks a million.
[11:56] <lesshaste_> is it possible to run an intrepid or jaunty kernel on hardy?
[11:56] <indus> thuglife999: yes
[11:57] <ozzmosis> bluepencil: except Ubuntu has SSH server disabled by default, so you'll have to enable that (on 10.0.0.2)
[11:57] <indus> thuglife999: but be prepared to have a menu full of kde and gnome applications
[11:57] <thuglife999> indus and on login to ubuntu will i get option to boot to which desktop????
[11:57] <indus> thuglife999: yes
[11:57] <bluepencil> ozzmosis, ah ok, in Admin > Services?
[11:57] <thuglife999> indus:  what do you mean menu full of kde applications?
[11:58] <indus> thuglife999: if u dont, u can specify from login screen i n session
[11:58] <indus> thuglife999: yeah it mixes
[11:58] <ozzmosis> bluepencil: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[11:58] <IndyGunFreak> thuglife999: you'll have a crapload of kde options in your menu
[11:58] <bluepencil> ozzmosis, sweet dude, thanks
[11:58] <indus> IndyGunFreak: thuglife999:yeah thats a better way to put it :)
[11:58] <thuglife999> what do you mean crapload?
[11:58] <RR> KDE themes are developed fully in C++
[11:58] <Gymnopaul> hello world :) !
[11:58] <IndyGunFreak> thats the only thing i don't like about installing another GUI.. if you could separate them.. kde fo kde, gnome for gnome, i'd do it.
[11:59] <indus> thuglife999: he/she just means a lot of extra menus  and kde apps
[11:59] <thuglife999> i see
[11:59] <RR> I there any other themes other than this
[11:59] <Gymnopaul> does anybody speak french here ?
[11:59] <IndyGunFreak> but  i consider KDE a linux virus, so i wouldn't use it.. but probably xfce, or flux
[11:59] <DjAngo23> Gymnopaul: I do
[11:59] <montmartrubuntu> moi Gymno
[11:59] <abbazabba> good morning everybody, i have a silly question as per the usue.
[12:00] <thuglife999> indus:  why ppl go for synaptic package manager than ad/remove programs???
[12:00] <DjAngo23> !fr Gymnopaul
[12:00] <RR> Is mp3 a proprited codec
[12:00] <indus> thuglife999:they both are the same, add/remove is just a mini version of synaptic
[12:00] <Gymnopaul> ok j'ai une question sur 8.10 : j'ai dans mon tableau de bord un panneau danger "Les informations de mises à jour sont obsolètes"
[12:00] <ozzmosis> Gymnopaul: English...
[12:00] <indus> thuglife999: if u click add/remove and click advanced , you go to synaptic
[12:00] <harr> how do I get ALSA again on my sound defs? yesterday I've started getting the sounfd much lesser than 12% than normal and alsda wasn't there any more. I've rebooted ( live jaunty USB session ) and still isn't there.
[12:00] <indus> !apt
[12:00] <ozzmosis> RR: read the Wikipedia page about mp3
[12:00] <thuglife999> indus:  since i am a newbie to ubuntu so where will i get a complete command reference of ubuntu terminal
[12:01] <koshari1> RR mainly yes, all though lame claims to be a rebuild with no licenced code
[12:01] <ozzmosis> RR: there's a section about that in there
[12:01] <indus> thuglife999: ok wait a min for that i will give u link
[12:01] <RR> ozzmosis: What is LTSP
[12:01] <thuglife999> indus:  some time when you ask for help they tell you show us this that??? i am not good with terminal
[12:01] <abbazabba> i installed wine, then installed exact audio copy, hoping to rip some cds, but it didn't work the way i wanted it to.. now, i uninstalled wine through add/remove but there is still the exact audio copy folder in my applications menu (even though i uninstalled it via wine).. how do i get rid of it?
[12:01] <ozzmosis> RR: no idea.  where is that?
[12:01] <montmartrubuntu> ce n'est pas tres grave gymno
[12:01] <thuglife999> indus:  sure
[12:01] <bluepencil> ozzmosis, ok dude, so can i go... scp bob@10.0.0.2:/home/bob/bob.txt ?
[12:01] <shervin> Is there a way to try to run dist-upgrade again?? (reinstalling)
[12:02] <RR> ozzmosis: Linux Terminal Support project
[12:02] <montmartrubuntu> tu régles cela par rapport à tes updates sources
[12:02] <ozzmosis> bluepencil: no need for the "/home/bob/" bit if you're already logging in as bob@
[12:02] <ozzmosis> bluepencil: and remember the " . " at the end of the command
[12:02] <T-KILLER> I have compiled and installed the latest 32 bit FFMPEG and now I am trying to compile and install the latest FFMPEG-PHP but am coming across the error "make: *** [ffmpeg_frame.lo] Error 1"  someone help fix this please ?
[12:02] <ozzmosis> bluepencil: where . is the current directory
[12:02] <bluepencil> ozzmosis, aaah ok, thanks
[12:03] <bluepencil> ozzmosis, oh you mean thats the destination?
[12:03] <livingdaylight> hi
[12:03] <livingdaylight> !dontzap
[12:03] <bluepencil> ozzmosis, makes sense, thanks again.
[12:03] <ozzmosis> bluepencil: yes, the syntax is similar to cp
[12:03] <RR> ozzmosis: LTSP is a alternate for windows ThinClient
[12:03] <thuglife999> indus:  where'd you go?
[12:04] <indus> hi
[12:04] <indus> !terminal
[12:04] <indus> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[12:04] <indus> same link
[12:04] <thuglife999> got 'em indus... thankxx
[12:04] <shervin> Is there a way to try to run dist-upgrade again?? (reinstalling)
[12:04] <montmartrubuntu> to gymno, je voulais dire "software sources" mais mon ubuntu est en anglais
[12:04] <indus> thuglife999: have fun
[12:05] <thuglife999> indus:  one more question
[12:05] <thuglife999> now since KDE has been installed
[12:05] <lexr> hi guys, finally I have managed to join the channel :)
[12:06] <abbazabba> hi, does anyone know how to get rid of a menu item out of the applications menu
[12:06] <abbazabba> ?
[12:06] <thuglife999> when i go to the last right side top menu...... where its shutdown/restart icons... i see few new icons... now how will i log on to KDE
[12:06] <thuglife999> shall i logout from Gnome or what?
[12:06] <indus> abbazabba: right click on menu > edit menu then you can remove stuff
[12:06] <indus> thuglife999: what new icons
[12:07] <thuglife999> it says away.. busy online offline
[12:07] <abbazabba> indus: you are the bee's knees.
[12:07] <indus> thuglife999: since you just installed , i suggest you get familiar with these new things before you have any questions :)
[12:07] <thuglife999> things like that
[12:07] <indus> bee's knees hmm
[12:07] <thuglife999> indus:  what i am tying to say........ how to logon on to KDE now
[12:07] <thuglife999> i installed KDE when i was on Gnome
[12:07] <thuglife999> indus:  shall i logout or what?
[12:08] <indus> ya why not
[12:08] <shervin> I have installed jaunty, and want to reinstall it. How can I do this??
[12:08] <indus> thuglife999: log out select kde log in etc
[12:08] <thuglife999> indus:  Aiight and what about the open applications i have on Gnome
[12:08] <koshari1> thuglife999 if you want to log into a k session you need to log out of gnome with "altGr printScreen k" and in the gdm screen select kde as the session
[12:08] <thuglife999> indus:  will they remain open or they will be terminated?
[12:08] <indus> thuglife999: good question
[12:08] <Borttrollad> Anyone have the problem with that when you install compiz ubuntu 9.04 gets slow?
[12:08] <qkfka> oh my god
[12:09] <indus> thuglife999: probably terminated when logging out but check it with terminal command top
[12:09] <koshari1> thuglife999 they will be terminated if you lof out
[12:09] <indus> shervin: same way you installed
[12:09] <koshari1> Borttrollad that is very dependent on your hardware,
[12:09] <thuglife999> indus:  koshari1 got 'em
[12:09] <thuglife999> let me try now :)
[12:09] <flintwingel> Borttrollad: compiz requires a good graphics card and will require a reasonable amount of CPU time
[12:09] <Debolaz> Is vlc 0.8 maintained somewhere for jaunty, or do I simply just add it from the hardy repository?
[12:09] <thuglife999> BRB folks
[12:10] <T-KILLER> I have compiled and installed the latest 32 bit FFMPEG and now I am trying to compile and install the latest FFMPEG-PHP but am coming across the error "make: *** [ffmpeg_frame.lo] Error 1"  someone help fix this please ?
[12:10] <shervin> indus: dist-upgrade doesnt work
[12:10] <shervin> it just says nothing to update
[12:10] <w_> hello
[12:11] <w_> hi
[12:11] <indus> shervin: you said you want to reinstall
[12:11] <koshari1> shervin so you have updated then, what are you trying to acheive?
[12:11] <lukavia> when will be released 2.6.30 ?
[12:11] <indus> shervin: you need to install over this again with live cd
[12:11] <shervin> everything failed, I want this time to run dist-upgrade without running X
[12:11] <indus> shervin: as in format whole partition
[12:11] <koshari1> lukavia you will likely see that kernel in koala
[12:11] <shervin> noooo I dont want to format
[12:12] <lukavia> kosharil: after 5 months ??
[12:12] <shervin> inI just want all the packages to be reinstalled one more time, because I believe something failed during dist-upgrade
[12:12] <shervin> indus
[12:12] <koshari1> shervin you will have bad config files but will still have latest packages
[12:13] <indus> shervin: whats exactly the question
[12:13] <shervin> koshari1: bad config files? I just want ubuntu to work
[12:13] <Incarus> shervin, try "sudo dpkg -reconfigure -a"
[12:13] <shervin> I upgraded from hardy to jaunty and it failed miserably
[12:13] <shervin> cant get X up and running
[12:13] <koshari1> shervin updating is always hit and miss
[12:14] <shervin> koshari1: Then what do you suggest for next time?
[12:14] <shervin> koshari1: always format?
[12:14] <Incarus> shervin, try the command
[12:14] <shervin> Incarus: ok hold on
[12:14] <Incarus> shervin, it will take some time
[12:15] <shervin> Incarus: conflicting actions -e (--control ) and -r (--remove)
[12:15] <koshari1> shervin bach up home dir, install new version over the top, , inastall al lthe packages you want, then one by one copy the configs from your saved old home dir back
[12:15] <indus> shervin: ye jaunty sucks
[12:15] <indus> or maybe its me
[12:15] <lexr> if I say to my ubuntu shutdown -h 18:00, will it shutdown in 18 hours or at 6pm?
[12:16] <Steal`n`Kill> Can someone help me with my asus laptop and radeon on board?
[12:16] <Steal`n`Kill> Big trouble
[12:16] <Incarus> shervin, sry, "sudo dükg-reconfigure -a"
[12:16] <Incarus> *dpkg
[12:16] <shervin> Incarus: Do I need internet connection?
[12:17] <Incarus> shervin, no
[12:17] <shervin> ok running now
[12:17] <Incarus> shervin,it will reconfigure all your packages
[12:17] <koshari1> shervin yes try incarus command to reconfig xserver
[12:17] <tARrAScH> What program is responsible for window Boarders? I know I've been using Emerald for a while, but what's the name of the application for those not using Emerald?
[12:17] <lexr> Steal`n`Kill: what's the problem?
[12:17] <Steal`n`Kill> Pm
[12:17] <Incarus> shervin, your "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" file would also help...
[12:17] <koshari1> tARrAScH metacity is one
[12:17] <tARrAScH> koshari1 - it's the default?
[12:18] <koshari1> in gnome it is
[12:18] <lexr> if I say to my ubuntu shutdown -h 18:00, will it shutdown in 18 hours or at 6pm?
[12:18] <tARrAScH> koshari1 - thanks :)
[12:18] <shervin> Incarus: thanks I will look at that log file after this is done
[12:19] <indus> lexr: 6 pm
[12:19] <indus> lexr: sorry 18 hours
[12:19] <lexr> ?
[12:19] <lesshaste_> how do I stop processes such as beagle/updatedb from running?
[12:19] <lexr> which one is it indus  :)
[12:19] <Incarus> shervin, np, but i also want to have a look XD
[12:19] <lesshaste_> I want to do some benchmarking
[12:19] <indus> wait
[12:19] <shervin> yes but right now I am running reconfigure
[12:19] <shervin> Font for the console: Fixed or VGA?
[12:20] <Incarus> lesshaste_, "sudo kill"
[12:20] <Incarus> lesshaste_, or killall
[12:20] <lesshaste_> Incarus, right but I don't know the full list
[12:20] <koshari1> lesshaste run top and see
[12:20] <Incarus> lesshaste_, ps -u USER ???
[12:20] <indus> lexr: shutdown -h <time>
[12:20] <indus> lexr: so 18 means 6 pm
[12:21] <lexr> indus: thank you soo much :)
[12:21] <indus> lexr: if u specify with a colon : it takes time form clock
[12:22] <lesshaste_> Incarus, I think runlevels are what I need to think about
[12:22] <shervin> Incarus: what do I choose for Configuring debconf: Dialog, Readline, Gnome
[12:23] <areels> it's odd something like chromium first released for windows not linux
[12:23] <Incarus> shervin, try dialog
[12:23] <shervin> ack
[12:24] <Incarus> lesshaste_, at systemstart? the autostart?
[12:24] <lesshaste_> what is the tool that tells you what runs at what runlevel?
[12:24] <anna_> bonjour à tous
[12:25] <Incarus> .en | anna_
[12:25] <anna_> J'ai un problème de taille lors de ma migration vers linux !!!
[12:25] <Incarus> anna_, anglais
[12:25] <lexr> thank you indi
[12:25] <jrib> !fr | anna_
[12:26] <jrib> lesshaste_: sysv-rc-conf (see « man update-rc.d »)
[12:26] <etb> how can i see my lastly installed pkgs?
[12:26] <lesshaste_> jrib, thanks
[12:27] <ozzmosis> etb: the most recently installed packages?  good question.  wondering that myself too.
[12:27] <etb> ozzmosis: tail -n 50 /var/log/dpkg.log
[12:27] <etb> :)
[12:27]  * Debolaz has his vlc 0.8.6 back on jaunty. :)
[12:28] <ozzmosis> etb: you just answered your own question?
[12:28] <etb> yeah
[12:28] <ozzmosis> ok :)
[12:28] <ozzmosis> thanks haha
[12:28] <etb> the guys from debian did actually
[12:28] <ozzmosis> great
[12:28] <ozzmosis> maybe I should hang out in #debian too
[12:29] <she_dyed> could learn a thing or two
[12:29] <ozzmosis> I need to buy a widescreen monitor just so I can see all my irc windows
[12:29] <she_dyed> or add an old CRT if you find one
[12:30] <Incarus> ozzmosis, you're just in one room XD
[12:30] <she_dyed> lol
[12:30] <she_dyed> admit it the others are pr**
[12:31] <MrNaz_cic> can you mount hfsplus formatted external hdds in r/w mode in linux?
[12:31] <ozzmosis> Incarus: I'm on other servers :)
[12:31] <MrNaz_cic> i need to write to a external drive that was formatted in mac
[12:31] <Incarus> ozzmosis, k
[12:31] <MrNaz_cic> formatted on a mac i should say
[12:32] <[Blay]> natash
[12:32] <qvantel> hi
[12:34] <Incarus> the internet connection is just working after killing and restarting dhclient, what could be the problem? avahi?
[12:35] <ozzmosis> etb: dpkg.log is decent.  surprisingly I don't think freebsd has anything like that yet..
[12:35] <etb> ozzmosis: i would guess it has
[12:36] <Guest7241> Hello
[12:36] <ozzmosis> etb: well, nothing in pkg_add manpage about logging  (straying offtopic here, sorry :)
[12:36] <Rasta1987> hello everyone. Can anybody tell me where I can find the FAQs to ask questions nicely?
[12:37] <Incarus> !faq
[12:37] <Guest7241> does anyone have experience with installing ubuntu to an Acer aspire one?
[12:37] <arand> !ask
[12:37] <Guest7241> eh?
[12:37] <Incarus> Guest7241, ask your question...
[12:37] <arand> I didn't mean the last thing as directed to anyone...
[12:38] <Guest7241> The thing is that it is supposed to work out of the box, but the ethernet card didn't work for me in 8.10, will it work with 9.04?
[12:38] <ozzmosis> Guest7241: I installed it on an old Acer laptop .. not familiar with that model
[12:38] <Guest7241> it is a netbook
[12:38] <DrAffe> Hi
[12:38] <ozzmosis> Guest7241: what card is it?
[12:39] <Rasta1987> I have a problem finding the hostname for my machine via ssh. ssh-server is installed on the server-machine and working. I was able to control it, when using its IP an being in the same network. Now I am outside and don't know how to find the right hostname.
[12:39] <Incarus> Guest7241, if you dont want to upgrade, you could just upgrade your kernel
[12:39] <Rasta1987> What am I missing?
[12:39] <Guest7241> I don't wish to upgrade, I just wish to do a clean install
[12:40] <Incarus> Guest7241, you could try it with a live cd
[12:41] <Incarus> Guest7241, or you could search in the change log for your card
[12:41] <Guest7241> netbooks don't have a cd drive, will it work with unetbootin when I create a usb drive?
[12:41] <Guest7241> ah where do I find those?
[12:41] <Guest7241> The card is  RealTek RTL8101E Fast Ethernet controller
[12:42] <DrAffe> Guest7241:U can use an external cd Drive. Yesterday I saw one for just 10€
[12:43] <ohir> Rasta1987: do you have persistent (public) ip address at home?
[12:43] <Incarus> !release
[12:43] <Rasta1987> no, I don't think so
[12:43] <Incarus> hm...
[12:43] <Rasta1987> I think, it changes
[12:43] <arand> Guest7241: unetbootin is normally an easy way to go about it.
[12:44] <Rasta1987> would I have to tell my provider to get me a persistent IP?
[12:44] <ohir> Rasta1987: so you probably can not log from outside now.
[12:44] <|lekarousar|> has anyone here had problems with nvidia 177 drivers?
[12:44] <ozzmosis> Rasta1987: have you heard of dyndns?
[12:44] <ozzmosis> !dyndns
[12:44] <Rasta1987> not yet
[12:44] <ohir> Rasta1987: either buy persistent ip from provider (easiest) or you need to use some sort of dynamic dns
[12:45] <Rasta1987> range of IP?
[12:45] <ozzmosis> Rasta1987: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DynDNS
[12:45] <ozzmosis> Rasta1987: then use something like ddclient
[12:45] <ohir> Rasta1987: then set up your home connection with dynamic dns
[12:45] <ozzmosis> I use that (not in Ubuntu though)
[12:46] <mojo2214> Good morning
[12:46] <Rasta1987> hmm, so with a changing ip, I cannot use ssh from outside, right? What if I can tell the IP that the PC is using the moment I want to log in?
[12:46] <ohir> Rasta1987: next: how your home addresses look like? Do they start with 10. or 192.168 ?
[12:46] <shortlord> where can I find the aurora gtk engine? It does not seem to be in the repos which is strange, because it is a widely used engine, isn't it?
[12:47] <exco> can I easily restore an ext4 partition I accidentially formatted fat32 (quick in Winows)?
[12:47] <ohir> Rasta1987: if they do look like, you oughta set your router's NAT to let incoming connection go thru
[12:47] <ozzmosis> Rasta1987: you can login from outside after the IP changes, provided you're not behind a firewall
[12:48] <Rasta1987> If tried it via "ssh name@currentIP" but it terminates because of timeDelay. The IP I am referring to does not start with 192...., it starts with other numbers
[12:49] <Rasta1987> so if I know the current IP, all I need to do is set the router right?
[12:49] <ohir> Rasta1987: is this IP of your host in home, or IP of your home router?
[12:49] <mojo2214> Anyone know how/where I can get a img file of the Desktop ISO?
[12:49] <Rasta1987> host
[12:49] <ohir> Rasta1987: right.
[12:50] <ozzmosis> mojo2214: img file?
[12:50] <ozzmosis> mojo2214: do you want a jpeg of the iso? ;)
[12:50] <ozzmosis> mojo2214: your question makes no sense
[12:50] <koshari1> mojo2214 you want to print the cd?
[12:52] <ohir> Rasta1987: iHotel --> [internet] --> (P)homeRouter --> (N)desktop . You can connect from outside to address (P). You need to configure router that it will forward incoming connections from P port 22 to (N) port 22
[12:53] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[12:53] <ohir> Rasta1987: I am guessing on typical home configuretion
[12:53] <Rasta1987> ohir: right
[12:53] <devius> hey am just curios....dosent the OS "in general" need chipset drivers for the motherboard and graphics card (as in we install after windows setup)....but why in ubuntu dont we don that....or do we just turn our eyes blind and act asif its all right....i dont get it, can someone explain
[12:53] <Mahone> #Parliament
[12:53] <Mahone> #Parliament
[12:53] <ozzmosis> devius: the drivers are built into the kernel
[12:53] <Mahone> #Parliament
[12:53] <Mahone> #Parliament
[12:53] <Mahone> #Parliament
[12:54] <koshari1> devius most of the chipsets on the mobos are supported by the kernel modules,
[12:54] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[12:54] <Mahone> #Parliament
[12:54] <Mahone> #Parliament
[12:54] <Mahone> #Parliament
[12:54] <Mahone> #Parliament
[12:54] <devius> ozzmosis: ALL the chipsets are loaded into the ekernel, is that what you r telling m
[12:54] <Mahone> ds
[12:54] <koshari1> devius most
[12:55] <ozzmosis> devius: they are built as modules and loaded when needed
[12:55] <ozzmosis> (mostly)
[12:55] <Rasta1987> can you still see my messages?
[12:55] <ozzmosis> Rasta1987: yes
[12:55] <Rasta1987> ok, thanks
[12:55] <shervin> dpkg-reconfigure -a doesnt wipe the content of home or the user that already existed right?
[12:55] <koshari1> devius run lsmod and it will show you all the modules loaded on your system
[12:56] <ohir> devius: 'driver' in Gate's language is quite equal to 'kernel module' in our language
[12:56] <shervin> it takes forever with this reconfigure
[12:56] <devius> ozzmosis, koshari1: but my computer is at mostly slower than in windows....does that mean a chipset driver is missing **maybe**
[12:56] <ozzmosis> devius: could be any reason
[12:56] <devius> ohir: aha
[12:56] <koshari1> devius i doubt it, whats slower?
[12:57] <shortlord> does anyone know why the aurora gtk engine is not in the repos and where I can download it instead?
[12:57] <koshari1> devius the clock speed will be the same?
[12:58] <devius> koshari1: ya thats what i expect, but the speed at which operations complete are relatively longer on ubuntu than windows....which is disappointing me'
[12:58] <koshari1> devius care to be more specific?
[12:58] <ozzmosis> devius: I've noticed on an old acer laptop (700 MHz) with 256 Mb, Firefox on Ubuntu is a lot slower than in XP, but on a Celeron 2.2 with 1 GB the opposite is true (except for the Adobe Flash plugin!).  I'm not sure I can conclude much from that though :)
[12:58] <koshari1> devius rendering videos? copying files?
[12:59] <Rasta1987> Has anybody had bad experiences with ssh and privateKey regarding security? Is it necessary to stop bruteForce-Attacks via iptables?
[12:59] <Brucevdk> Hi, I'm trying to find out where a proposal for new features (mockups, use case description, goal etc.) can be found? Does anybody happen to have a link ready?
[12:59] <Brucevdk> It should be somewhere on wiki.ubuntu.com
[12:59] <ohir> devius: get additional 256M of RAM. At least +128M
[12:59] <T-KILLER> I have compiled and installed the latest 32 bit FFMPEG and now I am trying to compile and install the latest FFMPEG-PHP but am coming across the error "make: *** [ffmpeg_frame.lo] Error 1"  someone help fix this please ?
[12:59] <devius> koshari1: maybe a kernel module is missing......mostly rendering videos, not file transfer, firefox....ya and the flash plugin
[12:59] <shervin> It seems I have problem with the exim4 package
[12:59] <shervin> its broken or not fully installed
[12:59] <devius> ohir: i have 1.5 gb
[13:00] <koshari1> devius what engine, codec are you using?
[13:00] <ozzmosis> Rasta1987: bruteforce attacks are mostly just an annoyance cos they fill up your logs with failed logins (that's my experience on freebsd anyway)
[13:00] <TheBrayn> howdy folks
[13:00] <ozzmosis> Rasta1987: so it's good to have something to firewall an IP after a certain number of failed attempts
[13:00] <devius> koshari1: meaning ?
[13:00] <ohir> devius: my fault, mistaken with ozzmosis line
[13:00] <devius> ohir: np
[13:00] <ozzmosis> Rasta1987: so unless you have a really obvious password...
[13:00] <Rasta1987> ozzmosis: ok, I think, I set it up anyway!
[13:01] <koshari1> devius what app /codec are you using to recode video files?
[13:01] <tickle4> hi guys
[13:01] <tickle4> can anyone help me?
[13:01] <dooner> Rasta1987, if you don't allow password auth it isn't that big of deal, but annoying.  moving ssh off default port gets rid of most of them..
[13:01] <Brucevdk> I'll go to a team channel instead
[13:01] <koshari1> !ask
[13:01] <ohir> devius: hvae you installed modules for your graphics card?
[13:01] <devius> koshari1: i use mediacoder under wine
[13:01] <Rasta1987> ok, I think I will change the channel instead
[13:01] <koshari1> devius use a native linux app then
[13:01] <T-KILLER> I have compiled and installed the latest 32 bit FFMPEG and now I am trying to compile and install the latest FFMPEG-PHP but am coming across the error "make: *** [ffmpeg_frame.lo] Error 1"  someone help fix this please ?
[13:02] <ohir> devius: System -> Administration -> Drivers (or so, I am using my native language locale)
[13:02] <koshari1> devius i have found mencoder to be very fast
[13:02] <devius> ohir: i installed the one from the ppa launchpad,m but now am using "dri" and "glx" modules after installing from intellinuxgraphics.org
[13:02] <bullgard4> iwconfig recognizes my NETGEAR Wireless PC Card WG511. man iwconfig:  "Please refer to  the man page of each device for details." '~$ man WG511; No manual entry for WG511." How come?
[13:02] <ozzmosis> T-KILLER: what do you use ffmpeg-php for?
[13:03] <devius> ohir: i only have one broadcom driver installed "for the wireless"
[13:03] <devius> and?
[13:03] <shervin> koshari1: I am trying to boot with the live cd now.
[13:04] <tickle4> ok, today i was on a website when i accidently clicked on a popup, it came up with a not very nice website, when i tried to exit the website would move around so i couldnt click it, it would also pop up another window saying which application i would like to use. the webstie was also trying to launch 60 popups. when i shut the computer down and turned it back on, when i tried to go on internet it would come back up with the not nice one.
[13:05] <ohir> devius: so do as koshari1 said. I did'nt notice any speed difference between my nb with 1.6G/1G centrino with linux and workplace desktop with four cores at 2.4G/4G RAM/Windows
[13:05] <Rasta1987> tickle4: i only had that when using windows...
[13:05] <ozzmosis> tickle4: in Firefox?
[13:05] <tickle4> yes
[13:05] <tickle4> but it works fine now
[13:05] <tickle4> is there any chance it will come back?
[13:05] <ozzmosis> tickle4: who knows
[13:05] <dooner> bullgard4, it means the chipset for the wireless card, not the actual model.
[13:06] <devius> ohir, koshari1: not just video conversion - evenwith the flash plugin in FF
[13:06] <ozzmosis> tickle4: the Firefox people might be interested in that though
[13:06] <T-KILLER> ozzmosis: It's a PHP extention that allows access to FFMPEG to allow PHP to access video paramaters of received video files uploaded to the web server.
[13:06] <mojo2214> I have the Acer EEE laptop but I prefer to run the desktop version of Ubuntu over the Notebook Remix, unforuantely I can't get the desktop ISO onto a USB stick correctly for installation but I can get the Notebook Remix disk .IMG file to install without issue, so I'm wondering if there is a disk IMG file of the Desktop ISO I can use. Or where I can find a program that will use the ISO file to be able to be installed via a USB Stick.
[13:06] <ozzmosis> T-KILLER: ah, I see
[13:06] <bullgard4> dooner: How can I detrmine the chipset of the NETGEAR Wireless PC Card WG511?
[13:06] <atlef_> mojo2214: have you tried useing UnetBootin?
[13:06] <dooner> bullgard4, google seems to think the older wg511 are prism based,  where the newer ones are  atheros based
[13:06] <tickle4> but do you think it will come back? i have shut down the computer and restarted numerous times and the interent works fine now.
[13:06] <amanda-b> is there a faq or howto on setting up dual head with kde? it's not just a question of pointing me to xinerama -- as i indicated, it works properly under gnome, but not under kde. nobody's home in #kubuntu.
[13:07] <T-KILLER> FFMPEG transcodes any video type into FLV on the website, much like youtube
[13:07] <T-KILLER> buit it needs FFMPEG-PHP PHP extention to do so
[13:07] <Zelfje> ffmpeg rocks
[13:07] <tickle4> ?
[13:07] <ozzmosis> tickle4: I suspect it was just firefox that broke, not your internet connection
[13:07] <bullgard4> dooner: I googled that result myself before. My question remains as I cannot see if my card is older or newer.
[13:08] <mojo2214> atlef_ : no i tried the first program from the installation help page.
[13:08] <Rasta1987> tickle4: install NoScript and addBlock
[13:08] <T-KILLER> Zelfje: it sure does but im having trouble compiling FFMPEG-PHP extention to worl alongside it
[13:08] <mojo2214> atlef_ : I'll give that a shot, thanks =)
[13:08] <tickle4> so you don't think the horrible website will come back>?
[13:08] <navlelo> does anyone know why i get permission denied when using gdb?
[13:08] <devius> ohir, koshari1: not just video conversion - evenwith the flash plugin in FF
[13:08] <dooner> mojo2214, installing UNR,and then swapping the desktop mode not an option?
[13:08] <T-KILLER> so, does anyone know how to help me?
[13:08] <tickle4> i have deleted all my history
[13:08] <tickle4> on firefox
[13:08] <T-KILLER> I have compiled and installed the latest 32 bit FFMPEG and now I am trying to compile and install the latest FFMPEG-PHP but am coming across the error "make: *** [ffmpeg_frame.lo] Error 1"  someone help fix this please ?
[13:08] <dooner> bullgard4, you say the computer sees it?
[13:08] <mojo2214> dooner: Not sure; any ideas where that might be?
[13:08] <bullgard4> dooner: Yes.
[13:09] <dooner> mojo2214, preferences switch desktop mode :)
[13:09] <ozzmosis> tickle4: it's fairly trivial to erase all your firefox settings in ubuntu
[13:09] <tickle4> what you mean?
[13:09] <dooner> mojo2214, will give you a standard ubuntu desktop as opposed to netbook launcher one
[13:09] <dooner> bullgard4, try dmesg  | grep -i wg511
[13:10] <ozzmosis> tickle4: so that if firefox breaks, you can erase all your firefox settings and it will start fresh again
[13:10] <ozzmosis> tickle4: but most people would never need to do that
[13:10] <dooner> bullgard4, or lspci | grep -i Wireless
[13:10] <tickle4> ok
[13:10] <tickle4> but can you just tell me if the horrible website will pop up again
[13:11] <tickle4> it doesnt at the moment
[13:11] <Pici> Sorry for the flood, but this needs to be done.
[13:11] <Pici> !traffic
[13:11] <Pici>    2.
[13:11] <Pici>       /mode -eeee mib_3dpbxjaq!i=93d29d24@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-81b8bb50171de476 mib_7uadrwqz!i=5399a049@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e1f9908e8f42eebf mib_xhdvahr2!i=93d29d24@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-32faa014dd4ff4fc mib_lj8nwvq4!i=5399a049@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b465c85936707ff7
[13:11] <ozzmosis> tickle4: no, we can't
[13:11] <FloodBot1> Pici: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:11] <Pici>    3.
[13:11] <Pici> arg
[13:11] <dooner> bullgard4, or just lspci and read the output.
[13:11] <Leftblank> Hm, I'm having some trouble with siege and libgcc_s.so.1 here; while running siege at some point the error 'lib ~ must be installed for pthread_cancel to work'; problem is, I got the lib in my /lib/ folder, where do I start looking now?
[13:12] <devius> ohir, koshari1: not just video conversion - evenwith the flash plugin in FF
[13:12] <tickle4> but how could it come back? if it doesnt at the moment, and i have deleted it out of the history
[13:12] <derspankster> If I replace virtualbox OSE with 2.2.2 and don't remove my .vdi will I be able to access it with the new version of VB?
[13:12] <tickle4> (sorry im not good with computers)
[13:13] <solomon_> I installed ubuntu on a blank drive and partitioned it and now I cannot install windows seven
[13:13] <ozzmosis> derspankster: is the .vdi the hard disk image?
[13:13] <dooner> derspankster, yes you should be able to.
[13:13] <ohir> devius: excuse me, I oughta go. Good Luck.
[13:13] <tickle4> ?
[13:13] <derspankster> thanks dooner
[13:13] <solomon_> I installed ubuntu on a blank drive and partitioned it and now I cannot install windows seven
[13:14] <ozzmosis> tickle4: you'll have to talk to some firefox experts about it
[13:14] <Rasta1987> solomon: is there a code 5? Can you boot?
[13:14] <Dulak> solomon_: you didn't leave any free space on the drive?
[13:14] <tickle4> how?
[13:14] <mojo2214> tickle4: it's hard to say because the various types of ways popup scripts are run, it could take the deletion of certain cookies and/or clearing of cache files.  You best bet is to download a java script blocker of some kind.  You can find plenty of them via the AddOns offered by Firefox.  Also, check to make sure your homepage didn't get changed by the popups.
[13:14] <derspankster> ozzmosis: yes, it is a hard disk image
[13:14] <tickle4> i'd prefer not to talk over the phone
[13:14] <devius> ohir ok bye
[13:14] <solomon_> I have 189gb of free space I think its complaining about it not being able to be at the beggining of the drive
[13:14] <tickle4> is there anyway i can talk to some firefox experts on a chatroom
[13:15] <ozzmosis> derspankster: upgrades don't touch the .vdi
[13:15] <etb> ozzmosis: freebsd /var/db/pkg
[13:15] <ozzmosis> tickle4: #firefox would be the go
[13:15] <Dulak> solomon_: yeah windows is a bastard sometimes, I always install it as the first partition, and before I install linux
[13:15] <tickle4> ok ty
[13:15] <solomon_> Dulak: Do  you think I will need to redo it?
[13:15] <derspankster> ozzmosis: it is my understanding that I must first remove OSE then install 2.2 - leaves the image alone?
[13:16] <mojo2214> Hey dooner: that's what I needed, thanks!
[13:16] <Rasta1987> Solomon: Win has to be installed on a primary Partition and at best, the first one on the drive, so it will get the letter C:
[13:16] <furythor> How to open .mkv file properly, I did get one video in that format and VLC player does not play it properly, picture is unviewable
[13:16] <dooner> mojo2214, nice glad it was something easy..
[13:16] <ozzmosis> derspankster: I don't know about the former
[13:17] <Dulak> furythor: VLC plays everything, your file is messed up I'd bet
[13:17] <furythor> great.
[13:17] <Rasta1987> Dulak: I can play mkv with vlc, but I cannot skip to any part, for it will quit working.
[13:18] <derspankster> ozzmosis: at least, that's what I've read but didn't mention accessing the existing .vdi images
[13:18] <mojo2214> here a quick opinion question - which IRC Clients do ppl prefer or do y`all [yes i live in south ;) ] just use the pidgin program?
[13:18] <Dulak> Rasta1987: you can try mplayer, it's also pretty good but VLC is the swiss-army knife of video players, it plays everything I've ever thrown at it
[13:19] <Leftblank> I'm having some trouble with siege and libgcc_s.so.1 here; while running siege I get this error; 'lib ~ must be installed for pthread_cancel to work'; problem is, I got the lib in my /lib/ folder, how do I figure out where siege is looking?
[13:19] <ozzmosis> derspankster: wouldn't hurt to make a backup of the .vdi files ? :)
[13:19] <furythor> yeah, I could place my money on that file is corrupted, so ...
[13:19] <derspankster> ozzmosis: but, I'm thinking if they're in the correct location, you would be able to after upgrade.
[13:19] <tickle4> no-one is at #firefox
[13:19] <Zelfje> about irc clients, i need a multi line paste web portal.. currently use cgi:irc but that one dont do multiline..
[13:19] <derspankster> ozzmosis: yes, indeed
[13:20] <Rasta1987> Please don't laugh at me: I like Gnome, but I want to have widget like Plasma (KDE4.2, and Screenlets doesn't do it for me), does anybody have experience with the use of Plasma under GNOME (as I understand, you'd have to install the whole KDE4.2 desktop and use Plasma solely).
[13:20] <cylex> Where can I download the source for Ubuntu?
[13:20] <Myrtti> Rasta1987: have you tried gdesklets?
[13:21] <Rasta1987> Myrtti:yes, I sitll want Plasma-Wigdets
[13:21] <|lekarousar|> can anyone help me remove a broken package please?
[13:21] <guntbert> !pastebin | Zelfje: is this what you want? -
[13:21] <furythor> Cylex you would not get one huge ball of source code, rather thousand small ones, and depending what you want to do you need to be more specific
[13:21] <ozzmosis> derspankster: 7zip's good for compressing HDD images .. slow but efficient
[13:21] <ozzmosis> bbl
[13:22] <cylex> furythor: that's fine.. how do I get a source for a particular package.
[13:22] <proximo> Hi there...i'm trying to understand the inner works of RIP (routing information protocol).
[13:22] <proximo> If you have 3 different gateways connected to the same subnet there is simply no use enabling RIP.
[13:22] <mojo2214> anyone know if you can use MS Office 2003 with Wine?  I have some excel files with macros that Open Office looks at an goes @(&*(!!!!!! X_x!
[13:22] <guntbert> proximo: best ask in ##networking
[13:23] <proximo> guntbert: ok, will ask, thnx for directing me.
[13:23] <Zelfje> guntbert: i dont need pastebin, just a irc client to use on website that support multiline paste
[13:23] <Leftblank> mojo2214 ye you can
[13:23] <cylex> |lekarousar|: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-528785.html
[13:23] <furythor> from repository usually, although you need to mark "source code" from software sources
[13:23] <guntbert> proximo: np :-)
[13:23] <Rasta1987> mojo2214: if wine doesn't work and your machine is able to, why not use VirtualBox with windows?
[13:23] <guntbert> Zelfje: then I misunderstood you :-)
[13:24] <Leftblank> How can I figure out where an app (siege) is looking for a lib ( libgcc_s.so.1 )? It keeps saying the lib is missing while it's not
[13:24] <mojo2214> Rasta1987: b/c I'm new to this game and never heard of it ;D
[13:24] <guntbert> Leftblank: best ask the authors of that app
[13:24] <furythor> Cylex which package source code you are after anyway ?
[13:24] <Leftblank> guntbert, I would if it wasnt for their inactivity
[13:24] <Zelfje> i.e. im looking for a mibbit alike source
[13:25] <xisco> how can I restore a deleted file with bzr ?
[13:25] <mojo2214> my eee and ubuntu is my first real attempt into using linux and connectiong open source programs/apps so forgive me for the n00bl3t type questions.
[13:25] <Rasta1987> mojo2214: VirtualBox emulates a whole Computer, it takes a little HardDiskSpace and a little of you GraficAdapter and of your Processor. Then you can install Windows on that virtual Machine and run it in Ubuntu. But it takes a resources to run well.
[13:26] <|lekarousar|> Cylence: didn't work thanks anyways
[13:26] <|lekarousar|> cylex: didn't work thanks anyways
[13:26] <Rasta1987> mojo2214: just keep trying, it is the best thing that happened to me, since I met Windows.
[13:26] <vladimirboyd> hello everyone
[13:26] <guntbert> Leftblank: then you could look through the output of `which siege` (assuming the app is started by that name)
[13:26] <guntbert> Leftblank: then you could look through the output of ldd `which siege` (assuming the app is started by that name)
[13:27] <Leftblank> thanks guntbert, will try that
[13:27] <mojo2214> Rasta1987: not sure my laptop has enough of those resources and thanks, I plan on checking it out.  Now if I can just learn all the terminal stuff I'll be doing a lot better
[13:27] <guntbert> Leftblank: happy hunting
[13:27] <shervin> is it true that I should have done "do-release-upgrade" when going from hardy to jaunty because apt-get dist-upgrade is from one distro to another?
[13:27] <shervin> or one version that is
[13:27] <Rasta1987> ok, I gotta go. Thanks to everyone1
[13:27] <Rasta1987> !
[13:28] <Rasta1987> now,... how do I exit?
[13:28] <mojo2214> c-ya
[13:28] <mojo2214> type /exit
[13:28] <mojo2214> works in most cases
[13:28] <Tyler> /quit or /part
[13:28] <Rasta1987> not here
[13:28] <guntbert> Rasta1987: type /part #ubuntu
[13:28] <Dulak> /exit
[13:28] <Dulak> haha
[13:29] <vladimirboyd> Q: when i open Pidgin in one workspace, but the taskbar button appears in all of the workspaces. is this GNOME or Pidgin related problem?
[13:30] <bullgard4> dooner: '~$ dmesg  | grep -i wg511' produces no output. Nor '~$ lspci | grep -i Wireless'. '~$lspci' produces the line: "02:00:0 Network controller: Intersil Corporation ISL3890 [Prism GT/Prism Duettel/ISL3886 [Prism Javelin/Prism Xbow] (rev 01)." How can I use this information for the  man iwconfig statement: "Please refer to the man page of each device for details."?
[13:31] <adrian2002> hi, im a noob, i was wondering how i can route normal audio through my internal PC speaker(the one that beeps), if that's possible at all -- im stuck at work with no headphones
[13:31] <royalwarecast> can the "hwd" be used in ubuntu?
[13:32] <cylex> adrian2002: I don't think you can do that
[13:32] <guntbert> royalwarecast: whats the "hwd" ?
[13:32] <Tyler> royalwarecast: no, that's specifically for archlinux if I understand correctly
[13:32] <flintwingel> adrian2002: the "beep" speaker is usually separate hardware from the normal sound output
[13:33] <adrian2002> cylex: lol kthanks
[13:33] <adrian2002> flintwingel: understood
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[13:33] <royalwarecast> it's used in archlinux and is a hardware detecting tools ...
[13:33] <royalwarecast> s/tools/tool
[13:34] <T-KILLER> anyone know of an alternative to ffmpeg-php so that i can get a video sharing site up and running?  apparently ffmpeg-php is no longer under active development but is a requirement for things like PHPMotion and Viviscript
[13:34] <T-KILLER> i need to know that it works jsut like ffmpeg-php so that vidiscript and phpmotion will work
[13:34] <hackeron> hey, I'm using ubuntu-minimal and just have a simple window manager and firefox but I can't figure out how to get the resolution 800x480 working - I've added Modes           "800x480" but it's ignored :(
[13:34] <guntbert> !ot | T-KILLER
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> hackeron: what video card does lspci | grep -i vga   say you have
[13:35] <hackeron> ActionParsnip: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8623 [Apollo CLE266] integrated CastleRock graphics (rev 03)
[13:35] <hackeron> ActionParsnip: it uses the unichrome xorg driver
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> hackeron: are you using a crt monitor?
[13:36] <hackeron> ActionParsnip: no, an LCD touch screen
[13:36] <lightbricko> How do I install php-gtk on Jaunty?
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> hackeron: maybe you need to specify the modelines and refresh rates in xorg.conf before it wil play nice
[13:36] <dooner> bullgard4, hmm.  so it is a prism xbox/javelin
[13:37] <|lekarousar|> can anyone please help me remove nvidia-glx-177?
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> lightbricko: sudo apt-get install php-gtk is my first guess
[13:37] <hackeron> ActionParsnip: I did specify the modelines that were working with ubuntu intrepid
[13:37] <corigo> Can someone please tell me a graphical way to permanently mount secondary drives without having to manually edit fstab etc
[13:37] <sgaravat> in #pd
[13:37] <hackeron> ActionParsnip: but they are ignored on jaunty :(
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> |lekarousar|: sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia-glx-177; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[13:38] <hackeron> ActionParsnip: they aren't even showing up in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[13:38] <|lekarousar|> ActionParsnip: gives an error code (1)
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> hackeron: if you use : dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg it may help
[13:38] <PF> can anyone tell me how to change uname -a
[13:38] <hackeron> ActionParsnip: this is my xorg.conf: http://rafb.net/p/AJ7bUF85.html
[13:38] <flintwingel> hackeron: is the resolution you want listed in the output of xrandr?
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> |lekarousar|: can you pastebin the whole output please
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> !paste | |lekarousar|
[13:39] <hackeron> flintwingel: one sec, I'll go check :)
[13:39] <hmw> my USB HD seems to transfer 2MB/s, but my hardware should be USB 2.0. I tried lspci -vv, but I cant make out, if i have a 1.1 or 2.0 controller. Please someone take a look at the output of my lspci and tell me, what controller I have: http://pastebin.com/f1decdd2c
[13:39] <|lekarousar|> ActionParsnip: i have to type it all up?
[13:39] <arcaos> hello folks
[13:39] <dooner> bullgard4, which release of ubuntu ?
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> |lekarousar|: no, copy and paste from terminal to the bin
[13:39] <catfish> hi guys
[13:39] <arcaos> what could be going on when I plug in my USB key and it just doesn't appear on the desktop?
[13:39] <lightbricko> ActionParsnip: I don't think it's in the repos. I've tried to compile from code, but some errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/177174/
[13:40] <hackeron> flintwingel: yes! - Screen 0: minimum 640 x 480, current 800 x 480, maximum 800 x 480
[13:40] <mojo2214> so another issue - the wireless, the router in the house is set to WEP Open System 64 Bit Hex, believe me I'd rather do some changes but the roommates would murder me - what do I need to tell my system in order to acess the wireless again since I'm not finding options that match those requirements?
[13:40] <arcaos> lshw tells me I have some USB 2.0 devices...
[13:40] <catfish> I added an umask to the entry of my line for a nfs share in the fstab
[13:40] <bullgard4> dooner: I cannot put to good use your answer. I'd like to know how I can use the above statement to make good use of the man iwconfig statement: ""Please refer to the man page of each device for details."?
[13:40] <bullgard4> dooner: Ubuntu 9.04
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> lightbricko: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php5/+bug/262251
[13:41] <catfish> since i'm added the entry, i cannot mount it, mount says, mount.nfs: an incorrect mount option was specified
[13:41] <dooner> bullgard4, seems to be some issues with that card.  some suggestions saying use ndiswrappers (I don't know who to do that,sorry). this might help though...http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=701287
[13:41] <Stepan1> Quick, How can someone on an XP computer see my Ubuntu.  Control the desktop, etc?
[13:41] <flintwingel> hackeron: Menu->preferences->display will let you select the resolution
[13:41] <vladimirboyd> another question: when i copy some text from an application, i am them only able to paste into another whilst the first one is opened. how to deal with it?
[13:41] <catfish> what is worng, could you pls habe a look on my line
[13:41] <|lekarousar|> ActionParsnip: I can't it's on my other machine which won't have X until i fix the graphics problem
[13:41] <dooner> Stepan1,  vnc
[13:41] <catfish> 192.168.1.100:/raid0/data/lhc /media/lhc nfs user,rw,rsize=4096,wsize=4096,umask=0000 0 1
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> |lekarousar|: do you have www on it?
[13:41] <bullgard4> dooner: I do not need ndiswrapper because the present driver works.
[13:41] <hackeron> flintwingel: I don't have the desktop, I'm using ubuntu-minimal - what's the command?
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> |lekarousar|: you can pipe the output to pastebinit
[13:42] <ravel_> anybody knows why after reflashing bios, dmidecode returns: "Wrong DMI structures length: 501 bytes announced, structures occupy 335 bytes"?
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> i got a meeting now, bbrs
[13:42] <|lekarousar|> how?
[13:42] <arcaos> the light on the key doesn't even come on.... would this be something of ubuntu not recognizing tye USB ports on my notebook?
[13:42] <Stepan1> dooner: Is that preinstalled with ubuntu?
[13:42] <ghabit> Hello. How to manage daemons autostarting at ubuntu? Through ssh access.
[13:42] <dooner> bullgard4,  ok sorry, thought you where having issues getting it to work
[13:42] <dooner> !vnc | Stepan1
[13:42] <Dr_Willis> arcaos:  plug it in.. wait a few moments.. check out put of 'dmesg' command..  try command again a few seconds later see if anything at the end changes..
[13:43] <flintwingel> hackeron: try xrandr --mode 640x480
[13:43] <vladimirboyd> anyone?
[13:43] <vladimirboyd> any suggestions?
[13:43] <Digit1> Hello
[13:43] <arcaos> Dr_Willis: ok
[13:43] <Digit1> how can I extract the audio from a video ??
[13:43] <dooner> bullgard4, driver is prism54pci
[13:43] <Stepan1> !FreeNX | Stepan1
[13:43] <hackeron> flintwingel: it just shows me usage for xrandr
[13:43] <Dr_Willis> arcaos:  or in a terminal window run ->   tail -f /var/log/kern.log
[13:43] <magnetron> Digit1: i'd use ffmpeg
[13:44] <Dr_Willis> arcaos:  and watch the window as you plugin/remove things...
[13:44] <Digit1> magnetron, it fails
[13:44] <magnetron> Digit1: how?
[13:44] <hackeron> flintwingel: ah!  xrandr --output 0 --mode 640x480
[13:44] <arcaos> Dr_Willis: nope.... nothing. Even the light on the USB key doesn't come on
[13:44] <Digit1> http://pastebin.com/m790123f0
[13:45] <mojo84> woops - sorry if I missed the answer to my question
[13:45] <flintwingel> hackeron: forgot that bit... don't use it very often :)
[13:45] <Oggi> hai
[13:46] <Oggi> purwokerto
[13:46] <Dr_Willis> arcaos:  weirdness.. could try it with other live cd's or os's - last time i had a issue like that - the port was bad.. tried other ports?
[13:46] <vladimirboyd> found the answer to Pidgin problem
[13:46] <rgmz> can i disable 3D acceleration for one particular program
[13:46] <magnetron> Digit1: you can't use "-acodec copy" if you want to *convert* from aac to mp3...
[13:46] <bullgard4> dooner: The driver is not prism54pci. The driver is prism54. --  I repeat my question: Where is the associated man page for it?
[13:46] <Digit1> ah ok
[13:46] <Digit1> sorry
[13:46] <Digit1> :S
[13:47] <Digit1> too much paste
[13:47] <hmw> ghabit: sysvconig can do that
[13:47] <rgmz> can i disable 3D acceleration for one particular program
[13:47] <hmw> ghabit: sysvconfig can do that
[13:47] <arcaos> Dr_Willis: tried all ports and they worked under winxp before I installed ubuntu .... funny thing as well as that lshw says http://paste.ubuntu.com/177179/
[13:47] <hmw> ghabit: sory, my ubuntu is so slow, it even fogets keystroles
[13:48] <ghabit> hmw: Thanks a lot.
[13:49] <mojo84> I'm trying to update my Adobe Flash player and got a msg of "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libcurl3" - how do I fix this?
[13:49] <nootrope> hello. can anyone tell me where/how to suppress window chrome on my Terminal windows? I can't find that setting in the Terminal Preferences.
[13:49] <rgmz> can i disable 3D acceleration for one particular program
[13:49] <magnetron> Digit1: try this instead: ffmpeg -i video.mp4 sound.mp3
[13:49] <macvr> nootrope: u mean like without the window borders?
[13:50] <hmw> my USB hard drive is running at a speed of 2MB/s (all my hardware is USB 2.0) - how can I find out, whats wrong? The drive also runs slowly on other PCs, regardless of operating system
[13:50] <arcaos> Dr_Willis: will try and take notebook to pieces to see if there is anything wrong physically, thx for your help anyway
[13:51] <CQ> hello, I have samba set up on an ubuntu box, the drive shares fine, but I get access denied when I try to access it from a windows box... I have a usermap set up, how can I get windows to prompt for the password to get access to the drive?
[13:52] <hmw> my USB hard drive is running at a speed of 2MB/s (all my hardware is USB 2.0) - how can I find out, whats wrong? The drive also runs slowly on other PCs, regardless of operating system - I am copying a large file right now, and my Ubuntu is terribly slow, allthough there is nearly no activity on the disk
[13:52] <inflex> Is it possible to adapt the standard Ubuntu 9.04 to the notebook remix via apt-get ?
[13:52] <kdub> hmw: could be USB2.0 communication specs, but the on-chip data management may operate at a slower rate than the usb bus
[13:53] <hmw> kdub:  th drive is sold as USB 2.0
[13:53] <kdub> hmw: let me rephrase, the actual memory may be slower than usb2.0 is capable of
[13:53] <hmw> kdub: 2MB/s is the speed of USB 1.1
[13:53] <jorgerosa> hello
[13:53] <hmw> and its killing my computer... i can barely type
[13:54] <bullgard4> hmw: Fröhlichen Herrentag!
[13:54] <hmw> Herrentag?
[13:55] <ravel_> anybody knows why after reflashing bios, dmidecode returns: "Wrong DMI structures length: 501 bytes announced, structures occupy 335 bytes"?
[13:55] <ychat> Hi, is there any audio-diary application for ubuntu ?
[13:57] <mojo84> I'm trying to update my Adobe Flash player and got a msg of "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libcurl3" - how do I fix or update the file in question?
[13:58] <baobao> royalwarecast, hehe
[13:58] <royalwarecast> baobao: ?
[13:59] <ychat> mojo84, aptitude install libcurl3 ?
[13:59] <baobao> royalwarecast, you are here too
[13:59] <royalwarecast> baobao: yes, there are so many kind people here
[14:00] <royalwarecast> I can learn a lot
[14:00] <baobao> royalwarecast, where
[14:00] <royalwarecast> right here
[14:00] <mojo84> ychat: sorry i'm still new and learning, mind explaining that aptitude install libcurl3 means or is that a terminal command I should run with sudo?
[14:00] <baobao> royalwarecast, good for you
[14:00] <royalwarecast> you tooo
[14:01] <baobao> royalwarecast, do you come here often
[14:01] <baobao> royalwarecast, how do you like ubuntu?
[14:01] <baobao> royalwarecast, what do you think of ubuntu
[14:02] <ychat> mojo84, yes on a terminal
[14:02] <aranyik> hello
[14:02] <ychat> mojo84, with sudo
[14:02] <ychat> mojo84, sorry.
[14:02] <Amalgam> Good evening ladies
[14:02] <royalwarecast> baobao: every night ,, very friendly to users especially for new fish
[14:02] <Amalgam> I just happen to be a man whore with carrot eyes
[14:02] <Dulak> mojo84: aptitude is a package manager app for the commandline, if someone tells you run an install command with it, you'd do "sudo aptitude install packagenamehere" at the command line
[14:02] <Amalgam> Please don't ban me
[14:02] <Amalgam> I need this place
[14:03] <Amalgam> Fuck this
[14:03] <eQuiNoX> small help here
[14:03] <eQuiNoX> shell programming
[14:03] <eQuiNoX> basic shell programming...
[14:03] <hmw> kdub:  do you really think, 2MB/s on a "high speed USB 2.0 drive" could be "normal"?
[14:04] <Iraimbilanja> Hi
[14:04] <Dulak> eQuiNoX: you gonna ask a question or what?
[14:04] <eQuiNoX> Dulak: i have a file with the following content
[14:04] <eQuiNoX> LAPTOP_MODE=0
[14:04] <aranyik> I am trying to install linux on an old PII with USB HDD but it wont boot from it, i tried linuxpendrive, GRUB  but it doesnt see the drive, however when i launch ubuntu installation disk, i can install on this drive...please someone
[14:04] <Pici> !enter | eQuiNoX
[14:04] <baobao> royalwarecast, what do you think of this distribution
[14:05] <eQuiNoX> i need to change it to the following
[14:05] <baobao> royalwarecast, worth trying?
[14:05] <eQuiNoX> LAPTOP_MODE=1
[14:05] <eQuiNoX> using shell code
[14:05] <mojo84> ychat/dulak: thanks for the clarification
[14:05] <Iraimbilanja> We run Ubuntu 8.04 32bit with a Athlon X2 64bit CPU. If we switch to a 64bit version of Ubuntu and compile a C++ program there, will the resulting executable work on 32bit PCs? IIUC we only need to specify -mcpu/-march, is that right?
[14:05] <kdub> hmw: i wouldnt rule it out, marketers like to stretch the truth :D
[14:05] <macvr> baobao: royalwarecast : pls take off topic discussions to #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:05] <Dulak> eQuiNoX: check out sed, google for sed examples
[14:05] <eQuiNoX> ease of implementation to be given preferance over efficency
[14:05] <royalwarecast> yeah I'm just using it
[14:05] <eQuiNoX> Dulak: Thank you
[14:05] <hmw> kdub: i cant believe it. I want my money back.
[14:06] <baobao> royalwarecast, how well is ubuntu laptop support
[14:06] <heroin> Hey
[14:06] <hmw> kdub: since it is exactly USB 1.1 speed and it kills my notebook, i suspect some bad driver to be in use
[14:07] <ravelon> anybody knows why after reflashing bios, dmidecode returns: "Wrong DMI structures length: 501 bytes announced, structures occupy 335 bytes"?
[14:07] <raven_> greetings - have an "segmentation fault5" with FFMPEG: http://pastebin.com/d69b362bf need help please - tnx
[14:07] <royalwarecast> baobao: I haven't tried yet ,so it's hard to remark ... but it appears to be nice on ARM so I think it's won't be disappointing
[14:08] <royalwarecast> on laptop
[14:08] <hmw> ravelon: this is a ubuntu support channel, so your chances to find someone with that specific knowledge are not too good. I recommend you type int that messag to google and hope for finding an answer.
[14:10] <heroin> anyone know how i can make my Ubuntu Desktop into a gateway so i can hang my xbox1 to my network?
[14:11] <Pici> !ics | heroin try these links
[14:11] <Oggi__> daan_kopling@yahoo.co.id
[14:12] <heroin> Pici: thanks
[14:12] <nogoodreason> Hmm... I'm trying to register on Freenode.  Am I even in the right place?
[14:12] <rgmz> quit
[14:12] <kdub> hmw: you have to be using the ehci driver apparently for usb2.0
[14:13] <hmw> nogoodreason: start with /nickserv or /nickserv register. You can do that from here, but its not related to the channe, but to the server you are connected to (freenode)
[14:13] <cyzie> hi, how do i restart the sound?
[14:13] <hiemanshu_> !ext4
[14:13] <hmw> kdub: will check again. I saw ehci AND ohci with lspci
[14:13] <hiemanshu_> cyzie, /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[14:14] <hmw> kdub: my notebook is slow as a pentium4 with 200MHz right now
[14:14] <Pici> !register | nogoodreason
[14:14] <cyzie> hiemanshu_, does nto seem to work
[14:14] <cyzie> hiemanshu_, my sound card still dotn have sound
[14:14] <hiemanshu_> cyzie, what is the problem
[14:15] <Pici> !nickspam > T-KILLER___
[14:15] <cyzie> hiemanshu_, it has sound and it work fine
[14:15] <cyzie> until i open a video file and then the app terminated
[14:15] <cyzie> now dont haev sound
[14:15] <hiemanshu_> cyzie, did you try rebooting the computer?
[14:15] <cyzie> hiemanshu_, reboot sure work
[14:15] <cyzie> but i dont want to
[14:16] <nootrope> macvr, Sorry, had to walk away for a while. Yeah,make Terminal display without window borders.
[14:16] <Milos_SD> What do I need to enable ffmpeg support when I compile MPD?
[14:16] <hiemanshu_> cyzie, wait lemme look
[14:16] <hiemanshu_> !sound
[14:16] <macvr> nootrope: use devilspie , that allows u to remove window borders
[14:17] <nootrope> macvr, thanks!
[14:17] <hmw> kdub: lspci lists 2 OHCI and one EHCI USB controllers. The strange thing is not only, how it slows down the whole computer, but the drive was slow on different computers with different OSes, too, so I suspect a problem with the drive in fact. Strange thing is the USB1.1 speed.
[14:17] <kdub> hmw: are you running the OS off the drive?
[14:18] <hmw> kdub: no, its my 750GB backup drive
[14:18] <heroin> Pici: can i do an ICS with a wireless connenction and a wired?
[14:18] <Pici> heroin: Probably
[14:19] <kdub> hmw: oh, i was thinking you were running a livecd off a flash drive
[14:19] <hmw> kdub: it's trying to copy 4.6 GB onto the drive right now. I switched to my Windows computer for chatting and research on the topic. I didnt find a forum entry regarding to this problem yet.
[14:19] <kdub> hmw: a hard drive should be able to keep up with usb2 data transfer rates :P
[14:20] <heroin> Pici: comforting answer
[14:20] <hmw> kdub: if it was within the specs of that piece of hardware, it would be ludicrous. Making that drive full would take 4 days or so.
[14:20] <Pici> heroin: I personally haven't done it, sorry
[14:20] <oladejo> hello
[14:20] <hmw> kdub: Maybe I shouldnt think of that thing as a backup- _tape_ drive
[14:21] <Hideme> If you have 4GB of memory, can you please paste me the output of "free -m" ?
[14:21] <hmw> kdub: its 1.2MB/s in fact, as I see now in that "File Operations" window. Copying only some large files.
[14:21] <klappi> cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_frequencies gives me only one frequency. acpi-cpufreq is loaded can anyone help?
[14:22] <darthanubis> klappi, is scaling enabled in BIOS
[14:22] <darthanubis> ?
[14:22] <klappi> darthanubis: yes i tried both enabled and auto
[14:23] <darthanubis> weird
[14:23] <helper> hello folks , can you remember me in which file i add the PATH=$PATH... so the command can be executed directly in terminal ? which file in /etc/ ? thx
[14:23] <hmw> kdub: I am reading some "product comparisons" for that drive. (Maxtor OneTouch 4, 750MB). I saw a couple of times "relatively slow USB performance" - but those people cant relate to my speed, I suppose. What do you think, could it be really that slow?
[14:23] <nootrope> macvr, you'd think Compiz would have a hide-window-borders setting...
[14:23] <aranyik> I am trying to install linux on an old PII with USB HDD but it wont boot from it, i tried linuxpendrive, GRUB  but it doesnt see the drive, however when i launch ubuntu installation disk, i can install on this drive...please someone
[14:23] <hmw> GB of course...
[14:23] <darthanubis> helper, I forget as well, but google reminds me when needed.
[14:23] <kdub> helper: if you're using the default shell, i think its ~/.bashrc
[14:23] <darthanubis> not trying to be a wise guy either
[14:24] <klappi> ~/,profile?
[14:24] <helper> kdub, right this one :D thx
[14:24] <hp> i am new
[14:24] <dupondje> hellow, my flashplugin doesn't seem to allow connections to other servers, any id how to solve this ? I can't play games @ netlog because of that
[14:24] <nogoodreason> *waves*  Hi guys.  I've just registered.  Is there a dedicated 'n00b room' for new Linux users, out of interest?  I have a few fairly noobish questions about drivers...
[14:24] <macvr> nootrope: i had thought so , but compiz doesnt do it , if u find devilspie difficult to configure , just google gDevilspie and use it to configure devilspie
[14:25] <hp> #ubuntu:join
[14:25] <helper> kdub, if i want on startup to execute a script where i add it ?
[14:25] <heroin> i cant view videos on break.com it states i need flash wats up?
[14:25] <nootrope> macvr, cool. thanks.
[14:25] <Digit1> magnetron, you there ?
[14:25] <kkathman> what is a good IDE for C programming on ubuntu (comparable to kdevelop on kde)??
[14:26] <magnetron> Digit1: hello
[14:26] <gordonjcp> kkathman: anjuta maybe
[14:26] <ozzmosis> kkathman: you can install kdevelop in ubuntu
[14:26] <raven_> greetings - have an "segmentation fault5" with FFMPEG: http://pastebin.com/d69b362bf need help please - tnx
[14:26] <kdub> helper: depends where in startup you want the script to run. earlier in boot, things in /etc/init.d/ are run, later in boot gnome can do startup scripts
[14:26] <ozzmosis> kkathman: I've heard good things about eclipse...
[14:26] <gordonjcp> kkathman: I just use gedit, but then I don't like IDEs much
[14:26] <kdub> kkathman: vim, ctags, and a prompt are the best way to go
[14:27] <helper> kdub, i just put script in folder init.d and it will execute when it boot ?
[14:27] <Digit1> it seems to fail in some cases
[14:27] <ozzmosis> kkathman: I tend to just use gedit or jed, and makefiles from the shell.  I mostly write short programs though :)
[14:27] <klappi> the file /etc/init.d/rc.local is run at boot for example
[14:27] <kkathman> ok thanks guys - used gedit and its fine but I guess I like that warm feeling around an IDE :)
[14:27] <kdub> kkathman: but if you _really_ want an ide, i recommend geany
[14:27] <hmw> kdub: Regarding to http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/labs/189618/maxtor-onetouch-4-plus-500gb.html, the predecessor drive with 500MB was as slow as 6.5MB/s with _small_ files
[14:27] <ozzmosis> I wonder if people still use rhide?  old clone of borland's ms-dos ide
[14:27] <kkathman> ozzmosis,  problem with kdevelop is that it has to install alot of kde stuff that I dont really want
[14:27] <Digit1> magnetron, http://pastebin.com/m3c5adfbc
[14:27] <Iraimbilanja> they do
[14:27] <fr_> chat ubuntu in italiano
[14:28] <ozzmosis> kkathman: yeah, lots of dependencies!
[14:28] <Digit1> magnetron, and gets stuck there
[14:28] <kkathman> I'll look at anjuta or just stay with gedit :)
[14:28] <ozzmosis> kkathman: if you're just writing your own programs I recommend learning how to use Make
[14:28] <kkathman> my stuff is rather small right now
[14:28] <fr_> dove la chat in italiano
[14:28] <kdub> helper: no, it has to be in a standard format. you probably just want the functionality from system->prefs->startupapss
[14:28] <kkathman> ozzmosis,  actually i'm kinda dong a crash course in C so I can program for the iPhone
[14:29] <tdn> I have a geode chipset with a hardware random number generator. There is a module for it: geode_rng and it is loaded. How do I use it to generate random data?
[14:29] <ozzmosis> kkathman: oh ok, I guess that's a little more complicated, but makefiles are still probably the way to go
[14:29] <helper> kdub, i don't have it the startuppass in sys/pref
[14:29] <kdub> kkathman: the iphone can run native apps? i thought they would have sandboxed it a bit more...
[14:29] <magnetron> Digit1: did you let it finish? looks like it's working
[14:29] <Yankefish> need a lil help i have vista x64,and ubuntu 9.04 on a dual boot, i want to use the vista bootloader how can i do that
[14:30] <kdub> helper: it may be called sessions, i think gnome recently changed that
[14:30] <fr_> where is  the chat in italian
[14:30] <fr_> '''
[14:30] <fr_> ???
[14:30] <Digit1> looks like it, but... it's not finishing or consuming any CPU
[14:30] <Dr_Willis> Yankefish:  why do you want to use the vista bootloader? grub is much easier to learn.
[14:30] <kkathman> kdub - they actually run a superset of C called objective C-  the stack is really nice and has a built-in GUI layer for easy Object manipulation
[14:30] <magnetron> !it | fr_
[14:31] <fr_> grazie milleeeeeeeeeee
[14:31] <kdub> kkathman: ah, objective C :) makes more sense
[14:31] <Digit1> and the process is in 'T' state
[14:31] <Yankefish> it look so junky to me is there anyway to remove entries and customize what they say
[14:31] <helper> kdub, ya session found it i add it and add the command to run it? that's it ?
[14:31] <kdub> helper: yep
[14:31] <helper> kdub, okie thx :*
[14:31] <klappi> have you tried codeblocks for c++ ide?
[14:31] <kdub> hmw: there's always firewire :) i'm still not convinced though that its the drive's fault
[14:32] <Yankefish> Dr Willis can i customize the grub loader text entries
[14:32] <kkathman> kdub right - if you know C, Objective C is C plus some built-in classes and extensions to access the iPhone's built in things like the accelerometer, the sliders, touch sensors, etc
[14:33] <Digit1> magnetron, 'T' = traced or stopped :S
[14:33] <kdub> kkathman: yes, i'm aware :)
[14:33] <rCX> Where are terminal programs installed in ubuntu?
[14:33] <p-suti_> Server irc.cc.tut.fi
[14:34] <kdub> rCX: /usr/bin/gnome-terminal is the default
[14:34] <Yankefish> anybody know an way to edit grub bootloader entries
[14:35] <rCX> kdub: Thx
[14:35] <kdub> rCX: more generally 'which ${programname}' will tell you where any executable on your $PATH lives
[14:35] <Dulak> Yankfish: the file is /boot/grub/menu.lst usually
[14:35] <ohir> Yankefish: <youreditor> /boot/grub/menu.lst
[14:36] <Yankefish> Dulak can i edit in vista
[14:36] <kdub> mm, you could find a way to mount the drive in vista, and edit it probably
[14:36] <Dulak> Yankefish: not unless you have an app installed that lets you access linux partitions, you'll have to boot a live cd or something
[14:37] <Yankefish> ok so after i boot ubuntu then how do i edit
[14:38] <kdub> it is a text file... do you need help knowing what to edit?
[14:38] <Yankefish> where is it located sorry
[14:39] <kdub> Dulak mentioned the location 5 lines up
[14:39] <zamba> i'm trying to upgrade to jaunty, but "do-release-upgrade
[14:39] <zamba> eh
[14:39] <zamba> but 'do-release-upgrade' sees no new release
[14:39] <driftwood_> >	Yankfish: the file is /boot/grub/menu.lst usually
[14:39] <flashingpumpkin> foobar
[14:39] <Dulak> Yankefish: /boot/grub/menu.lst is the file
[14:39] <Yankefish> sorry didnt see it thx guys
[14:40] <hiemanshu> zamba, its dist-upgrade
[14:40] <Dulak> Yankefish: if you are booting from a livecd you'll have to mount the drive, then it'll be in boot/grub/menu.lst under that mount
[14:40] <zamba> hiemanshu: huh?
[14:40] <rCX> kdub: Ok.  If I have a compiler in a folder where should I install it?
[14:40] <zamba> # do-release-upgrade
[14:40] <zamba> Checking for a new ubuntu release
[14:40] <zamba> No new release found
[14:40] <Yankefish> http://www.go2linux.org/accessing-linux-drive-ext-with-vista
[14:40] <zamba> that's a release upgrade
[14:40] <Yankefish> im using this to mount in vista
[14:40] <kdub> rCX: i dont know what you mean by that
[14:40] <flashingpumpkin> anyone harddisk wizards here? my ext3 filesystems died just a couple hours ago. i managed to repair my root partition with fsck.ext3 - but my /home partition is kinda really fucked
[14:41] <hiemanshu> zamba, what version are you on?
[14:41] <zamba> hiemanshu: intrepid
[14:41] <Digit1> magnetron, any idea ?
[14:41] <kdub> rCX: are you trying to build and install a custom compiler?
[14:41] <flashingpumpkin> it can't read the journal superblock, also when i specify a backup journal block via `fsck fsck.ext3 -v -b 98304 /dev/sda7`
[14:41] <hiemanshu> zamba, try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:41] <flashingpumpkin> -fsck
[14:42] <zamba> hiemanshu: huh? 'do-release-upgrade' is for release upgrade, which is what i want to do
[14:42] <zamba> hiemanshu: i want to go from intrepid to jaunty
[14:42] <kdub> zamba: update-manager -d can also do release jumps
[14:42] <ceatinge> After updating to 9.04 I find that it often takes several invocations of 'mpc play' to get mpd to actually start playing music. Anyone know why this would be?
[14:42] <zamba> kdub: that's for the GUI
[14:42] <magnetron> Digit1: your description is still a little vague. try asking again, on one line
[14:42] <zamba> kdub: i'm remotely administrating the system
[14:42] <rCX> kdub: I'm trying to install fasm, (http://flatassembler.net),an assembler
[14:42] <hiemanshu> zamba, yes i know apt-get dist-upgrade will also go to jaunty
[14:42] <dupondje> somebody here with a netlog account ?
[14:42] <kdub> ah, ok. and you're building from source?
[14:42] <ebcovert3> Good morning
[14:43] <zamba> hiemanshu: how can it go to jaunty when i have no jaunty sources defined in sources.list?
[14:43] <Digit1> magnetron, the process hangs showing the lines I have put on pastebin, and the state of the process is 'T', not consuming any CPU
[14:43] <hiemanshu> zamba, it should work on its own
[14:43] <hiemanshu> its always does
[14:43] <hiemanshu> !dist-upgrade
[14:43] <rCX> kdub: No, I actually have the folder and executable
[14:43] <magnetron> Digit1: ask in a way so that anyone in this channel may have a chance to read it
[14:43] <ebcovert3> I am having a problem with my wireless network. All was working fun and then I installed a series of recommended updates and now I have no wireless newtork access. My AA1 sees no networks on the wifi side
[14:43] <driftwood_> just found this for person who wanted to know about grun http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/index.html   --A full online manual.     must have answers to just about any q on grub in there somewhere
[14:44] <zamba> hiemanshu: no.. it shouldn't.. people should be able to stick to the release they want, without getting automatically upgraded to a new one
[14:44] <driftwood_> *grub
[14:44] <kdub> rCX: if you run it in the local folder, does it work?
[14:44] <hiemanshu> zamba, that is true, but dist-upgrade is, distro upgrade
[14:44] <hiemanshu> which means to jump to next release
[14:44] <tickle4> guys,i have scanned my ubuntu for viruses and it says i got 2 viruses ( i used one called 'virus scanner which i got from add and remove programs) and its come up with scanning results and it shows the 2 viruses
[14:44] <SuperguyA1> ebcovert3: were you running any encryiption? (wep/wap) did it get reset?
[14:44] <tickle4> how do i delete them?
[14:44] <Digit1> Im trying to extract audio from different video files, the ffmpeg command I use is this -> ffmpeg -i /tmp/foo.avi -f mp3 -vn /home/mateo/foo.mp3, but the process seem to hang after outputting this -> http://pastebin.com/m3c5adfbc
[14:45] <kdub> rCX: also, do you sometimes go by rcxdude?
[14:45] <magnetron> tickle4: the application should show witch file is infected
[14:45] <ebcovert3> Superguy. I am running WPA 2 on my home network, but I didn't change that. I can't even see the unencrypted networks here at teh office
[14:45] <rCX> kdub: no :p
[14:46] <rCX> kdub: I havn't tried that yet.  But I want to add the program to the path
[14:46] <tickle4> scanned my ubuntu for viruses and it says i got 2 viruses ( i used one called 'virus scanner which i got from add and remove programs) and its come up with scanning results and it shows the 2 viruses
[14:46] <rCX> kdub: ...so i can execute it from any directory
[14:46] <heroin> tickle4: u have virusses?
[14:46] <Digit1> Digit1, im using Ubuntu 9.04 and FFmpeg version 0.5-svn17737+3:0.svn20090303-1ubuntu6
[14:46] <tickle4> well it says i do
[14:46] <heroin> tickle4: or do your download files contain virusses small diffrence which matters
[14:47] <kdub> well, try it. if it works, you can just copy it to /usr/bin, which is the 'standard' location for user programs, sorta
[14:47] <mattgyver> Is there a command to paste clipboard text?
[14:47] <rCX> kdub: I'll try it now
[14:47] <zamba> hiemanshu: no.. 'dist-upgrade' is just there for historical reasons.. it's really a synonym for 'full-upgrade'
[14:47] <zamba> hiemanshu: 'do-release-upgrade' is the command to be used for jumping up a release
[14:48] <zamba> hiemanshu: that, or update-manager -d
[14:48] <hiemanshu> zamba, yes i know that,
[14:48] <tickle4> ?
[14:48] <hiemanshu> zamba, you can use the alternate cd methong too
[14:48] <zamba> hiemanshu: then why are you telling me to use dist-upgrade to upgrade to jaunty?
[14:48] <hiemanshu> method
[14:48] <kdub> rCX: looks like it works, just copy it to /usr/bin
[14:48] <Deadman> hi there
[14:48] <tickle4> how can i delete them
[14:48] <hiemanshu> zamba, you want to update to jaunty right?
[14:48] <Deadman> im needing some help w/unrar (im new to linux) can somebody help me in PM?
[14:48] <hiemanshu> upgrade*
[14:48] <heroin> tickle4: uh
[14:48] <kdub> rCX: i was just making sure that it was linked correctly to run on the system out of their tar
[14:49] <zamba> hiemanshu: eh.. yeah? that's what i've been saying for the last ten minutes
[14:49] <fantomas> How to connect to a windows xp station which shares a directory without a password?
[14:49] <heroin> tickle4: i doubt u have virusses did u use clamav?
[14:49] <tickle4> yes
[14:49] <zamba> i found the problem now
[14:49] <hiemanshu> zamba, then i think dist-upgrade should really do the work
[14:49] <tickle4> well i scanned the files and it says i have 2
[14:49] <heroin> fantomas: try to enter the ip address in nautilus
[14:49] <zamba> hiemanshu: it doesn't!
[14:49] <tickle4> in my firefox cache
[14:49] <rCX> kdub: Thanks for your help.  I think I know what to do now
[14:49] <hiemanshu> zamba, you can use the alternate cd methond then
[14:49] <heroin> tickle4: ... there you go they are not active virusses
[14:49] <hiemanshu> method*
[14:49] <kdub> tickle4: those arent 'viruses' they're probably tracking cookies
[14:50] <heroin> tickle4: just start firefox and go clean your cache from prefrence menu
[14:50] <zamba> hiemanshu: 'do-release-upgrade' is the way to do it.. and i found the solution to the problem while i was educating you
[14:50] <jatt> how do I find the 2.6.24-19-generic source code? Which repository?
[14:50] <hiemanshu> zamba, what was it?
[14:50] <tickle4> wheres my prefrnce menu?
[14:50] <zamba> hiemanshu: problem was the apt proxy.. looks like you can't upgrade releases if you have an apt cache/proxy in the way
[14:50] <ebcovert3> Superguy, has anyone else reported this problem that you know of?
[14:50] <fantomas> heroin: I see a computer in the list. Then I click on it and it asks me for login/pass while it doesn't require any
[14:50] <heroin> tickle4: edit > prefrences
[14:50] <heroin> fantomas: ah but it does my dear man
[14:50] <zamba> hiemanshu: and never, ever tell someone to use dist-upgrade for upgrading releases - that's flat out wrong
[14:51] <hiemanshu> zamba, ahhh... there are many ways that work
[14:51] <heroin> tickle4: or tools > clean private data
[14:51] <fantomas> heroin: ok, what that secret M$ username?
[14:51] <hiemanshu> zamba, i always use that and it works :)
[14:51] <tickle4> ok i have done that i'll just scan my computer again?
[14:51] <heroin> fantomas: i suggest you google that i forgot
[14:51] <zamba> hiemanshu: you have to disable the proxy to get the system to believe a new release is ready.. after that you can just put it back up..
[14:51] <achille> istallazioni
[14:51] <fantomas> heroin: ok )
[14:51] <heroin> tickle4: go nock yourself out.. but dont be so paranoid about virusses
[14:51] <heroin> fantomas: but i know the error :D
[14:52] <heroin> fantomas: what you can also do i share a folder or something and see if that works
[14:52] <hiemanshu> zamba, hmmmm, i dont need it actually, i love rebuilding my system every month :)
[14:52] <achille> perche
[14:52] <jatt> i want to install the source code for the linux-image-2.6.24-19-generic kernel, which repository should I use in my sources.list
[14:52] <zamba> hiemanshu: you don't need an apt proxy?
[14:52] <heroin> go IPADRESSXPBOX\FOLDERNAME
[14:52] <ebcovert3> All, I have to run. I will try to get back on later to get more help
[14:52] <tickle4> its just earlier on there was this dodgy website that opened itself up and wouldnt let me me close it but i finally got rid of it
[14:52] <hiemanshu> zamba, no i dont
[14:52] <greeksolid> hi guys. can somebody please help me with a problem i have for opening ports?
[14:52] <tickle4> so they are definetly not going to do anything?
[14:52] <heroin> jatt: if u cant answer that question dont mess with kernels
[14:52] <hiemanshu> greeksolid, yes
[14:52] <zamba> hiemanshu: well, you're not on a 2 Mbit dsl and got 150+ computers to manage
[14:52] <heroin> tickle4: no
[14:52] <zamba> believe me, apt cache is a life saver
[14:53] <heroin> tickle4: they are not screwing your computer up at all
[14:53] <greeksolid> thnx hiemanshu. can i pm you?
[14:53] <hiemanshu> zamba, i am on a 8Mbit line and have a lot of servers to manage though :)
[14:53] <heroin> tickle4: probally got them from viewing pr0n :P
[14:53] <fantomas> heroin: you mean to share on linux to see a username?
[14:53] <hiemanshu> greeksolid, yes
[14:53] <heroin> fantomas: no share another folder on XP
[14:53] <heroin> fantomas: or are you trying to connect from XP > ubuntu?
[14:54] <bc06> hallo
[14:54] <fantomas> heroin: no no, I'm connecting to XP from Ubuntu, using Nautilus
[14:54] <Shalafi_Xavier> Bonjour
[14:54] <heroin> fantomas: if you want XP to see UBUNTU you need to set a password for samba..
[14:54] <heroin> ah ok fantomas :D
[14:56] <heroin> fantomas: look here maby: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/304040
[14:56] <akince1> I have a script that keeps exiting with an error "Unexpected end of file" when it hits an if [ <condition>] construct. It doesn't have a problem with many of the other if constructs. Any ideas?
[14:56]  * Dukkan_ocupado is back (gone 02:57:07)
[14:56] <jatt> which are the official source code repositories for hardy, I want to add one to my sources.list
[14:56] <schambers> I'm using compiz, when using multiple viewports, certian applications appear on every task list, such as pidgin. How can I get Compiz to not show these programs on all task lists?
[14:57] <pegon> schambers, random guess right click the border of the window at the top and make sure its set to only show on that workspace
[14:57] <ddfger> how do i install all deb packages within a folder with one command?
[14:58] <kdub> dpkg -i *deb$, i think
[14:58] <Dulak> ddfger: for file in *.deb; do dpkg -i ${file}; done
[14:58] <stew> ddfger: dpkg -i *deb
[14:58] <pegon> ddfger, I don't know if this would do it but could try dpkg -i *deb
[14:58] <hiemanshu> !info ccsm
[14:58] <hiemanshu> !info compiz
[14:58] <schambers> pegon: it is, but compiz uses multiple "viewports" which is technically one long workspace
[14:58] <tickle4> yes!no viruses
[14:58] <neil_d> I am having trouble accessing a new pendrive. It shows up in the Places, but when I click on it I get "Cannot mount volume" "Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied"  what does this mean?  How do I fix it?
[14:58] <kdub> ccsm is compizconfig-settings-manager
[14:59] <hiemanshu> !info compizconfig-settings-manager
[14:59] <ddfger> thx it worked
[14:59] <hiemanshu> thanks kdub
[15:00] <cdavis> What do I need to look at to make X output to the correct monitor when my laptop is docked?
[15:00] <kdub> tickle4: you'll find virus checking is on ubuntu more a way to excercise your cpu... :)
[15:00] <flashingpumpkin> also here no harddisk ninjas around? :(
[15:01] <melter> i'm using 9.04, and i love the little popup notices in the top right corner, like printer notices, etc.; is there a way to get twitter notices the same way?
[15:01] <kdub> flashingpumpkin: i'd try running all the repair utilities that you know of first
[15:02] <rdevoe> i tried installing opera 9 on thenetbook remix , wont open opera it tries but quits
[15:02] <coreyman> Why can't I view localhost when I'm not connected to a network
[15:02] <coreyman> ....
[15:02] <kdub> and if that doesnt work, you'll need to do advanced things like dumping the data out and trying to reconstruct files
[15:03] <kdub> thats advanced and tedious though :P
[15:03] <flashingpumpkin> kdub: well, that's what i did
[15:03] <kdub> you have a raw dump of the disk then?
[15:03] <coreyman> Anyone know why I have to be connected to a network to view localhost.
[15:03] <rdevoe> anybody know why opera 9 wont run in the netbook remix?
[15:04] <Dr_Willis> rdevoe:  open a terminal, run it from there. look for error messages
[15:04] <heroin> ?
[15:04] <rdevoe> ok
[15:05] <kdub> flashingpumpkin: the real problem is if your inode structure is destroyed, you need some tricky hacks to find out how exactly each file is scattered across the disk
[15:05] <etienne_> would some one help my ubuntu ?
[15:05] <eurythmia> !ask > etienne_
[15:05] <kdub> and the system tools are best for that, their written by the ext designers, who know the ins-and-outs
[15:06] <flashingpumpkin> kdub: well, badblocks did show up a couple of bad inodes
[15:06] <john_> i ran the terminal ran opera got major errors
[15:06] <jonaskoelker> Hi all.  My laptop (thinkpad t43p) will only run at 800mhz.  What's scaling it down, and what I can I do about it?  I _think_ it's due to temperature (whenever it only runs at 800, it feels warm and conky reports temperatures over 60 °C).  How can I cool my laptop down?  Is turning it off the only solution?
[15:06] <john_> ERROR: ld.so: object 'libjvm.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
[15:06] <john_> ERROR: ld.so: object 'libawt.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
[15:06] <john_> QSettings: error creating /home/john/.qt
[15:06] <john_> QSettings: error creating /home/john/.qt
[15:06] <john_> opera: Failed to create personal directory: /home/john/.opera
[15:06] <FloodBot1> john_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:06] <kdub> flashingpumpkin: if the disk is mounted, i'd unmount it to avoid further writes to the disk
[15:07] <john_> sorry
[15:07] <kdub> flashingpumpkin: then, run fsck to try to repair the inode structure
[15:07] <flashingpumpkin> kdub: it's unmounted
[15:07] <kdub> to see if it can, that is
[15:07] <tdg911_> morning all.  I'm running ubuntu 9.0.4 2.6.28-11-server ext3 fs.  This machine is setup for host for vmware server2.  I have ubuntu 8.0.4 guest machine.  I've noticed that two guests running linux w/ ext3 sometimes the fs is being placed in read-only which is wreaking havoc on this end.  The articles I have read mainly talk about ext3 and not jfs.  Which filesystem is preferred?  ext3 or jfs?
[15:07] <flashingpumpkin> kdub: fsck dies with short read errors on the journal superblock, also when specifying a backup superblock via fsck.ext3 -b <backupblock> <partition>
[15:08] <Hape> hi
[15:08] <kdub> heh, i was just about to say i hope the journal was intact :P
[15:08] <coreyman1> Can someone please help me, I am unable to connect to localhost when I am not connected to a network.
[15:08] <coreyman1> The server is on this machine
[15:08] <jonaskoelker> tdg911_: I don't know, but you of course can do the experiment yourself (if you have the resources); run with jfs for a while and see which one you like best.
[15:08] <neil_d> I am having trouble accessing a new pendrive. It shows up in the Places, but when I click on it I get "Cannot mount volume" "Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied"  what does this mean?  How do I fix it?
[15:09] <eurythmia> so I managed to bork my system yesterday by trying to remove lilo and install grub (lilo was installed by my mistake); I managed to get Grub installed and working, and now it seems as though I have a problem with my kernel. At some point during boot init won't go any further. I can't remember where it stops, but I'm chrooted into my ubuntu install (running kubuntu live CD ATM) and can provide any information necessary to fix this problem. If I
[15:09] <eurythmia>  *need to restart* to figure it out, then I'll do so and take a picture of where it stops. Any help would be MUCH appreciated.
[15:09] <dfsa> anyone here seen stephen king's "IT" movie?
[15:09] <coz_> coreyman,  if no one here can help   try  #linux  channel
[15:09] <jonaskoelker> tdg911_: there may (I'm very very *not sure*) be local variance that might affect the situation
[15:09] <kdub> flashingpumpkin: i dont think i know ext3 specifics to the level which you need to reconstruct the data, unfortunately :(
[15:09] <coreyman1> thanks coz
[15:09] <flashingpumpkin> :|
[15:09] <coreyman1> i figured it out though...
[15:09] <eurythmia> neil_d: have you googled that error? I can't remember offhand, but it's a permissions error, you need to add yourself to a group and relogin, then the error will cease.
[15:09] <coreyman1> coz for some reason it isn't resolving http://localhost/
[15:10] <eurythmia> neil_d: I remember finding the solution easily on google though.
[15:10] <dfsa> what does the clown in stephen king's "It" mean by "we all float down here" ?
[15:10] <kdub> coreyman1: does 127.0.0.1 work?
[15:10] <jonaskoelker> Hi all.  In 9.04, where should I configure frequency scaling?
[15:10] <flashingpumpkin> testdisk just died aswell
[15:10] <john_> anyone know how to fix opera install that wont work?
[15:10] <coreyman1> kdub .... well.. i'm connected to a network... let me see
[15:10] <tdg911_> The articles I've read discuss a kernel bug and it's attributed to disk i/o and it's more noticeable in vm environment.
[15:10] <eurythmia> jonaskoelker: are you running a laptop?
[15:10] <sharperguy> How do I set my screen resolution in jaunty?
[15:10] <jonaskoelker> eurythmia: yes
[15:11] <tdg911_> I'm just wondering if I redo the vm servers to use jfs if it will fix my problem or not.
[15:11] <neil_d> eurythmia: I will look.
[15:11] <kdub> coreyman1: if you cat /etc/hosts, you should see a line '127.0.0.1 localhost'
[15:11] <eurythmia> jonaskoelker: don't worry about frequency scaling ... the amount of power it saves is negligible, if any. The kernel supports putting the CPU into longer sleep states somewhere after kernel 2.6.27 .
[15:12] <sharperguy> nvm got it
[15:12] <jonaskoelker> eurythmia: okay, but somehow my box gets scaled down to 800 mhz whenever it gets hot (or rather, I notice it's hot whenever I see 100% cpu usage of 800mhz).  Would it be safe to disable this "feature"?
[15:12] <eurythmia> jonaskoelker: if you *really* want to save power, do things like configure the kernel (and recompile it) with dynamic ticks on, and lower timer frequency.
[15:12] <jonaskoelker> eurythmia: and if so, how do I do it?
[15:13] <JaneDoe> anyone using an inexpensive (e.g. Tripp-Lite) UPS with Ubuntu?  google results point mostly to older stuff.
[15:13] <tvoet_> i have no sound since my upgrade from Intrepid Ibex to Jaunty ( i've already followed this thread without success http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789578)  anyone have any suggestions?
[15:13] <eurythmia> jonaskoelker: hmm. What type of CPU? (and are you running gnome, kde, ?)
[15:13] <dfsa> what does the clown in stephen king's "It" mean by "we all float down here" ?
[15:13] <dfsa> what does the clown in stephen king's "It" mean by "we all float down here" ?
[15:13] <eurythmia> tvoet_: what kind of sound card?
[15:13] <jonaskoelker> eurythmia: gnome, model name      : Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 2.13GHz
[15:13] <dekkong> Hello ! does anyone know if it is possible to put a timer on a USB-port? i mean that the port would start after about 1 minute after the computer has been started?
[15:14] <tvoet_> eurythmia: onboard
[15:14] <eurythmia> !offtopic > dfsa
[15:14] <Milos_SD> How do I force overwrite of files when I want to install .deb file that I created with checkinstall?
[15:14] <eurythmia> tvoet_: lspci | grep Audio
[15:14] <jonaskoelker> eurythmia: hmm... is it /etc/laptop-mode/conf.d/cpufreq.conf -- set CONTROL_CPU_FERQUENCY=0
[15:14] <tvoet_> running now
[15:15] <tvoet_> eurythmia : 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)
[15:15] <eurythmia> jonaskoelker: that might work. If it doesn't, give me a moment?
[15:15] <panfist> why does crontab have its own text editor, and why does it behave so weird...can i use another text editor to edit my crontab file?
[15:15] <eurythmia> tvoet_: I know what the problem is, give me a few moments.
[15:15] <tvoet_> ok
[15:16] <dekkong> Hello ! does anyone know if it is possible to put a timer on a USB-port? i mean that the port would start after about 1 minute after the computer has been started?
[15:16] <jonaskoelker> eurythmia: it _seems_ to have worked, after echoing 2133000 >! scaling_max_freq in /proc/<somewhere>
[15:17] <jonaskoelker> eurythmia: no, /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_max_freq
[15:17] <effie_> what can i do to install nerolinux on my laptop?
[15:17] <eurythmia> jonaskoelker: make a cron job that will log the frequency to a file every minute for an hour, and see if that fix holds under load.
[15:18] <jonaskoelker> it doesn't, I'm already down to 800 again
[15:18] <panfist> is vim designed purposely to frustrate people who use it accidentally?
[15:18] <friendishan> hi
[15:18] <panfist> is there some kind of vim primer i can read so that i stop spewing crap into my documents
[15:18] <jonaskoelker> panfist: vimtutor
[15:18] <eurythmia> tvoet_: this is one of the pages of solutions. It's for gutsy, but it worked for me on debian squeeze, so it should also work on jaunty
[15:19] <hiemanshu> !vim > panfist
[15:19] <jonaskoelker> !vim
[15:19] <hiemanshu> !vim
[15:19] <eurythmia> jonaskoelker: well, poo. I'll try to find the resource I had before then ;)
[15:19] <wims> how do i change my default apps in kde, i wanna use a different default web browser than konqueror
[15:20] <panfist> i don't see a private message from the ubottu
[15:20] <panfist> !code
[15:20] <hiemanshu> !vi
[15:20] <ravelon> what is the right way to install windows after ubuntu was installed?
[15:20] <tvoet_> eurythmia: did you forget the link?
[15:20] <jonaskoelker> panfist: open a terminal and run vimtutor.  It'll tell you the basics of vim
[15:20] <panfist> i'm doing that now
[15:21] <jonaskoelker> panfist: ah, cool :)
[15:21] <panfist> thanks everyone
[15:21] <eurythmia> tvoet_: so I did ... silly me, just a sec
[15:21] <nogoodreason> Nvidia users: which of these drivers do I need for my 8800GTS?  {setting up dual monitors}    https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates
[15:21] <TuxPurple> !ssh
[15:21] <darthanubis> nogoodreason, the latest
[15:21] <eurythmia> tvoet_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Gutsy_Intel_HD_Audio_Controller
[15:21] <effie_> is there a right way to install a package already on my HDD?
[15:22] <nogoodreason> darthanubis : yes, but which one is that? :S
[15:22] <jonaskoelker> ravelon: I _think_ (but it's been a long while) that you want a live CD (or usb, floppy).  Install windows, and note that grub is gone.  Boot the live media; reinstall grub and add a chainloader stanza to menu.list
[15:22] <darthanubis> nogoodreason, check Nvidia's site
[15:22] <darthanubis> Don't be lazy
[15:22] <FlightlessDuck> broadcom wireless card not working in ubuntu 9.04! What should I do?
[15:22] <hiemanshu> effie_, you mean from a deb?
[15:22] <hiemanshu> FlightlessDuck, what the problem?
[15:22] <jonaskoelker> effie_: apt-get install --reinstall package might do what you want...
[15:22] <darthanubis> !broadcomm
[15:22] <eurythmia> effie: just do :aptitude install <pkgname> if the package is older it will be upgraded, else aptitude will give you a reason why it won't work
[15:22] <darthanubis> !broadcom
[15:22] <jonaskoelker> effie_: depending on what you mean by "on my HDD"
[15:22] <FlightlessDuck> just got jaunty, now my wireless isn't working
[15:23] <hiemanshu> FlightlessDuck, do sudo update && sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter
[15:23] <darthanubis> FlightlessDuck, breathe deeply, then foolow link
[15:23] <darthanubis> foolow
[15:23] <effie_> at me broadcom have been automatically setted and is working up to now!
[15:23] <darthanubis> follow
[15:23] <FlightlessDuck> k thanks guys, will do
[15:23] <TuxPurple> !ssl
[15:24] <hiemanshu> !nervous
[15:24] <hiemanshu> !help
[15:24] <tvoet_> euryhtmia: which method do i use.
[15:24] <tvoet_> eurythmia : my model 8280 doesn't specify
[15:24] <wims> how do i change my default apps in kde, i wanna use a different default web browser than konqueror
[15:24] <effie_> but i'm from ubuntu!
[15:24] <ravelon> jonaskoelker, I don't quite understand what chainloader +1 does, can you tell me?
[15:24] <eurythmia> jonaskoelker: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=248867
[15:24] <nixot> hello again... question- i'm running eeebuntu 9.04 and when I try to enable desktop effects it says "Compiz is not installed" but in the standard release, everything is screwed because of compiz, you can only configure that, and the configuration is convoluted and the whole program is really obnoxious, so is there a way i can have visual effects without compiz?
[15:25] <jonaskoelker> ravelon: it loads another bootloader
[15:25] <jonaskoelker> ravelon: typically, you want to load the windows bootloader, which will then load windows
[15:25] <friendishan> nixot u need to install compiz before using it
[15:26] <nixot> :O
[15:26] <effie_> eurythmia: i'wil try that process! and update you for any result!
[15:26] <eurythmia> tvoet_: just try the "Workaround A" section, that *should* solve your problem.
[15:26] <panfist> stupid vim comment: if the right hand home row is jkl;, then why don't those four characters move the cursor instead of hjkl
[15:26] <friendishan> nixot u can't do that u need compiz
[15:26] <eurythmia> panfist: you can change keymappings in your ~/.vimrc
[15:26] <nixot> when  I tried the standard install of eeebuntu, compiz screwed everything, the config window was bigger than the screen, and al the other config options for normal ubuntu were hidden
[15:27] <nixot> and at the bottom there was a wierd mac style task switcher
[15:27] <friendishan> nixot do u mean edubuntu ?
[15:27] <ravelon> jonaskoelker, do you know exactly which bootloader it loads? I don't see what it chains to?
[15:27] <nixot> no eeebuntu
[15:27] <eurythmia> friendishan: for the eeepc
[15:27] <panfist> before i get into changing anything i want to know the reasoning behind why they are the way they are
[15:27] <friendishan> nixot soory i don't know about that
[15:27] <eurythmia> panfist: you would have to ask the devs in #vim
[15:28] <nixot> friendishan: on my main pc with normal ubuntu 8.10, it can use visual effects without compiz
[15:28] <ladram> hello i have a big problem with the ssh to acced to server ubuntu 9.04 . when i put ssh @ip of server i have nothing so can you help me please
[15:28] <jonaskoelker> ravelon: the one on the disk designated by the "root" parameter in the same stanza as the "chainloader +1" bit
[15:28] <nixot> eeebuntu is like ubuntu except with a few adjustments to make the wireless work
[15:28] <eurythmia> panfist: I have a sneaking suspicion, though, that it's because : is used to start command mode.
[15:28] <effie_> jonasko: first i want to make you know that i'm a french speaker and i want just to express Hard Drive Disk.
[15:29] <panfist> yeah but ; is not :
[15:29] <nogoodreason> Nvidia: Found driver, but stumped as to how to download/install.  Google didn't help much - any thoughts?  https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates/+build/958828
[15:29] <friendishan> nixot i don't know why compiz is need on eeepc
[15:29] <eurythmia> ladram: what is the exact command you use? (replace the ip with 255.255.255.255 so that you can keep your privacy)
[15:29] <friendishan> nixot any1 else cud help u
[15:29] <ravelon> jonaskoelker, what is stanza?
[15:30] <nixot> ok friendishan
[15:30] <eurythmia> nixot: it could be because the eeepc is a low-performance PC, and they wanted to remove effects to promote bateery life longevity.
[15:30] <nixot> I see.
[15:30] <jonaskoelker> ravelon: a blob of text in menu.list corresponding to a menu item in the grub menu
[15:30] <eurythmia> s/bateery/battery/
[15:30] <ladram> eurythmia : i put ssh 192.168.1.4 in ubuntu client to acced to ubuntu server but i dont have anything
[15:30] <ravelon> jonaskoelker, i see, thanx
[15:30] <nixot> visual effects make it faster for me though!
[15:30] <jonaskoelker> ravelon: np
[15:30] <nixot> probably because then the desktop is hardware accelerated?
[15:31] <eurythmia> ladram: ubuntu client? What do you mean by that? Are you using an applet or a program, or are you using the command line to connect with ssh?
[15:31] <dar_> nassss
[15:31] <nixot> OK well I'll see what I can do... maybe install compiz just as a TSR or something
[15:31] <eurythmia> nixot: yes; the desktop is hardware accelerated.
[15:31] <nixot> well, thanks for your help, eurythmia and friendishan
[15:31] <friendishan> nixot no problem
[15:31] <eurythmia> nixot: no problem.
[15:31] <nixot> :)
[15:31] <ladram> eurythmia : yes i want to connect to the server with ssh but we do not connect
[15:32] <nixot> bye all.
[15:32] <eurythmia> ladram: I understand that you want to connect. What are you using to try to connect?
[15:32] <tvoet_> euryhtmia: off to reboot to see if it works.
[15:32] <tvoet_> thanks for the link
[15:32] <eurythmia> tvoet_: good luck.
[15:32] <eurythmia> jonaskoelker: how is your grub-ese ?
[15:32] <friendishan> ladram u wud probably wanting to read this http://groups.haas.berkeley.edu/HCS/howdoi/ssh.asp
[15:33] <coreyman> So I can view my localhost server on konquerer but i cant view it on firefox unless i'm connected to the web, whats up with that
[15:33] <zigovr> hi all, I have just done a fresh install of ubuntu 8.04, bizarrely, after a "aptitude update" and "atptitude upgrade", the kernel wasn't updated and remained at version 2.6.24-19, which is not the latest
[15:33] <zigovr> any idea why the kernel wasn't upgraded by this command ?
[15:34] <ladram> eurythmia : i put ssh test 192.168.1.4
[15:34] <eurythmia> coreyman: you can use file:/// to access localhost. You can't connect to htp:// (default for firefox) unless there is a webserver running at the url being pointed to, in your case, localhost.
[15:34] <friendishan> zigovr u wud want to update it to ubuntu 9.04
[15:34] <dar_> hi, a question, is it true that by default in ubuntu 9.04 your folder home is encrypted until you login in ?
[15:34] <eurythmia> ladram: you should read the link that friendishan mentioned to you.
[15:34] <zigovr> friendishan: no, I am still using kde 3.5
[15:34] <ladram> ok thik u
[15:35] <mrbnet_> How do I exit the Terminal Server client when in full screen mode?
[15:35] <ladram> think u
[15:35] <ravelon> jonaskoelker, so, after I istall windows, I need to install grub on the same partition where my / is for that kernel if I use chainloader +1?
[15:35] <ikonia> ravelon: grub is installed on the mbr - not a partition
[15:35] <ikonia> ravelon: it reads the stage files from /boot/grub
[15:35] <friendishan> zigovr : do u want to upgrade to ubuntu 9.04 ?
[15:36] <jonaskoelker> ravelon: I second ikonia
[15:36] <dar_> ikonia: grub install in mbr and partition
[15:36] <zigovr> friendishan: no
[15:36] <dar_> 2 phases
[15:36] <ikonia> dar_: - no grub is installed to the mbr - it reads files from /boot
[15:36] <friendishan> zigovr: what actually u want to do?
[15:36] <ikonia> dar_: in context of the users question
[15:36] <dar_> ikonia: ;)
[15:36] <effie_> it display this aptitude don't have "super cow power" what else to do?
[15:36] <ladram> eurythmia : i read it but i have fixed @ip of ubuntu server 9.04 so when we want to connect them we can't so?
[15:36] <zigovr> friendishan: I want to understand why "aptitude upgrade" doesn't upgrade all packages. It upgrade almost all packages, but not the kernel
[15:37] <dar_> hi, a question, is it true that by default in ubuntu 9.04 your folder home is encrypted until you login in gdm?
[15:37] <ikonia> dar_: that's not true
[15:37] <hughszg> all, I set 'bash -v' by accident, now I want to disable that, how to do?
[15:37] <dar_> ikonia: ok
[15:37] <jonaskoelker> ikonia: doesn't it also read some files addressed by block number (as opposed to file name)?  Otherwise, it'd have to implement ext3 and reiserfs in 446 bytes in the mbr ;-)
[15:37] <friendishan> zigovr read this http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-215355.html
[15:37] <dar_> I read that It was going to be a new feature of ubuntu
[15:38] <ikonia> jonaskoelker: yes, I believe part of the reference is off block numbers, but it does have file system support, but that is not relevant to the users question
[15:38] <Boohbah> dar_: what is the point of that?
[15:38] <eurythmia> ladram: what is your native language?
[15:38] <tvoet_> eurythmia: muchas gracias.  sound now works fine.  thanks again.
[15:38] <ladram> eurythmia : frensh
[15:38] <jonaskoelker> ikonia: not relevant - agree
[15:38] <eurythmia> tvoet_: not a problem, glad all is good :)
[15:38] <hughszg> all, I set 'bash -v' by accident, now I want to disable that, how to do?
[15:38] <ikonia> hughszg: exit and re-enter bash
[15:38] <eurythmia> ladram: you may want to try #ubuntu-fr , I'm having an extremely difficult time trying to understand you.
[15:39] <dar_> dar_: I want to use lucs to encrypt my home, but I think ubuntu did it
[15:39] <tvoet_> eurythmia: don't get backwards support.
[15:39] <tvoet_> but it works now, that's all that matters.
[15:39] <ladram> eurythmia : ok i'm se sorry
[15:39] <ladram> so sorry
[15:39] <hughszg> ikonia: thank you a ton :)
[15:39] <coreyman> eurythmia i have a webserver running at localhost.
[15:39] <zigovr> friendishan: ok so apparently, it is "normal" behaviour of aptitude
[15:39] <eurythmia> ladram: no need to apologize, I'm just trying to help :)
[15:39] <hughszg> I got it undo.
[15:39] <overrider> Hello Folks. I've created a USB Startup Disk on a USB Key(via System->Admin->USB Startup Disk), which i hope can come in handy to do some System rescue operations. Now, how can i install some of my favourite Programs on that Key so they persist across a reboot? Thanks
[15:39] <eurythmia> coreyman: what port?
[15:39] <friendishan> zigovr yes
[15:39] <coreyman> eurythmia not sure, i installed xampp
[15:39] <ladram> eurythmia : so can you help me?
[15:40] <coreyman> eurythmia pretty sure either 80 or 8000 or 8080
[15:40] <eurythmia> tvoet_: you should be able to install alsa-oss and get backwards support (for all the old sound apps)
[15:40] <ladram> eurythmia : i will try to writ coorectly ok
[15:40] <eurythmia> coreyman: if it's not running on 80, then you won't get a connection without specifying the port. Try running nmap against localhost to find out which port http is running on.
[15:40] <tvoet_> eurythmia: just alsa-oss?
[15:40] <coreyman> eurythmia alright thanks
[15:40] <eurythmia> tvoet_: pretty sure, let me double check.
[15:40] <asdfasdfasdf> i would like to backup my 11 gb music folder sorted in foleders as /artist/album/song when it was 8 gb i picked the first half and burn it to a dvd and the other half to another dvd. that is almost 12 gb i need to backup a 3rd dvd how can i do it? (of course i could backup everything again using 3 dvds but i would like to use only one)
[15:41] <ladram> eurythmia : before fixing @ip of server ubuntu we don't have any prob to accec to ubuntu server but after fixing @ip we can"t acced it so ?
[15:42] <friendishan> asdfasdfasdf what do u mean make it a bit clear
[15:42] <john_> i think i did not set up my netbook remix properly it didnt leave any free space on the drive
[15:42] <eurythmia> ladram: when you ping @ip do you get a response?\
[15:42] <friendishan> asdfasdfasdf u may want to use a blu-ray then
[15:42] <eurythmia> coreyman: np.
[15:42] <ravelon> jonaskoelker, I have 2 drives ide and scsi. then grub promptss during boot, the ide drive is sda (hd0), but once ubuntu is booted, it shows as /dev/sdb, so if I do grub, it won't put it on the right disk
[15:42] <asdfasdfasdf> friendishan, i would like to backup my 11 gb music folder sorted in subfolders as /artist/album/song. when my music collection  was 8 gb i picked the first half and burnt it to a dvd and the other half to another dvd. now that it is almost 12 gb i need to backup a 3rd dvd how can i do it? (of course i could backup everything again using 3 dvds but i would like to use only one)
[15:42] <eurythmia> ring0: lol ... running in kernel mode on x86, are we? ;)
[15:42] <zamba> a working apt cacher? (apt-cache-ng sucks)
[15:42] <kinki> anybody can help me with python ?
[15:43] <asdfasdfasdf> i corrected it and i dont have a blu ray burner
[15:43] <eurythmia> kinki: try #python
[15:43] <zamba> kinki: what's the problem?
[15:43] <ladram> eurythmia : yes we can ping to ubuntu server
[15:43] <ring0> eurythmia: of course
[15:43] <kinki> eurythmia, it doesn't work
[15:43] <jonaskoelker> ravelon: I don't know what to do then; it's been too long since I've toyed with grub.  Maybe ikonia can help you?
[15:43] <eurythmia> ladram: try running nmap against the server, maybe something happened to the ssh port.
[15:43] <FLjohn> I have a problem loading Buzzen Chatrooms since I updated to 9.04
[15:43] <eurythmia> kinki: you need help installing python, or programming with it?
[15:44] <FLjohn> Anyone have any ideas?
[15:44] <eurythmia> ring0: kernel dev?
[15:44] <ladram> eurythmia :  how i can do it?
[15:44] <kinki> eurythmia, programming
[15:44] <coreyman1> eurythmia its running on 80
[15:44] <friendishan> asdfasdfasdf u cud not back-up the files already backed up in the 2 DVD's but u wud like to backup the new files on a new blank DVD
[15:44] <eurythmia> kinki: why won't #python work?
[15:44] <john_> any help fixing hdd space issue w 9.04?
[15:44] <g0wda> what is the minimum RAM required for normal desktop effects
[15:44] <g0wda> ?
[15:45] <asdfasdfasdf> friendishan, yes
[15:45] <friendishan> g0wda 256mb ram
[15:45] <kinki> eurythmia, I don't know, I go to server - join a channel and It does nothing
[15:45] <eurythmia> coreyman1: well, I don't know then; try specifiying http://localhost:80/ in the firefox address bar *grabbing at straws*
[15:45] <coreyman1> eurythmia tried it
[15:45] <coreyman1> eurythmia oh well, switching classes
[15:45] <eurythmia> coreyman1: sorry, I've got nothing then :/
[15:45] <coreyman1> eurythmia i'll just use konquerer
[15:46] <friendishan> asdfasdfasdf cut paste the already backed up files ain a new directory and then write the new files to a new DVD it's that simple
[15:46] <g0wda> i have 640mb DDR, but CAN'T, now how do i figure out which graphics card I have (i know that it's an onboard intel one)
[15:46] <ring0> eurythmia: no, i'm not a dev
[15:46] <g0wda> but dont know the make
[15:46] <eurythmia> ladram: man nmap; if there's no manpage do "apt-get install nmap" and then man nmap
[15:46] <jonaskoelker> g0wda: depends on what other things you use your ram for, but I'd guess "not much"; I think it's more interesting to ask whether or not your gfx card is up to the task
[15:46] <eurythmia> ring0: too bad ;)
[15:46] <ring0> eurythmia: :)
[15:46] <jonaskoelker> g0wda: lshw
[15:46] <eurythmia> kinki: works from here. what client are you using?
[15:46] <ladram> eurythmia : ok
[15:46] <friendishan> g0wda it must be 64mb video card for the normal graphics to work
[15:47] <livingdaylight> !docky
[15:47] <livingdaylight> !Docky
[15:47] <friendishan> !Docky
[15:47] <livingdaylight> anyone know anythng about Docky? Gnome-Do front end?
[15:47] <coz_> livingdaylight,  I know of people who use it and I tried it once
[15:47] <friendishan> livingdaylight not me
[15:48] <Pici> !fishing
[15:48] <livingdaylight> coz_: where do i find it?
[15:48] <coz_> livingdaylight,  hold on
[15:48] <Pici> Factoids are not case sensitive
[15:48] <livingdaylight> friendishan: ok, not you :)
[15:48] <kinki> eurythmia, maybe i doesn't work because it's to busy !
[15:48] <friendishan> !Dancing
[15:48] <eurythmia> sonofabitch! I know *exactly* why grub isn't boting my system now!
[15:48] <coz_> livingdaylight,   sudo apt-get install gnome-do
[15:49] <gordonjcp> lastlog friendishan
[15:49] <eurythmia> brb
[15:49]  * Dukkan is away: Estou ocupado
[15:49] <livingdaylight> coz_: oh, i got gnome-do installed. i was wondering aout its front-end 'Docky'
[15:49] <john_> anybody know how to resize a partition and make it mount auto in netbook remix?
[15:49] <g0wda>  VGA compatible controller
[15:49] <g0wda>              product: 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device
[15:49] <coz_> livingdaylight,   gnome-do  is it's own front end
[15:49] <Dre4m> This is really doing my head in,  Installed UBUNTU, go to play a DVD and it says plugins required . . .no problem I understand it needs codecs  . . . I press "search for missing plugin" . . . and it says . . . "No Packages With The Requested Plugins Found" -> The Requested Plugins Are  "DVD SOURCE"
[15:49] <livingdaylight>   hrmmmm
[15:49] <g0wda> how do i figure out it's memory from that?
[15:49] <jess12345> hi can anyone assist got into real trouble on my mac address on the network card
[15:49] <asdfasdfasdf> is there any software that can compare 2 different dvds agains a local music folder and tell me what files arent backed up in the dvds or have been modified?
[15:50] <coz_> livingdaylight,  docky may be one of the themes  it offers  or a separate applicatioin
[15:50] <jess12345> i swapped hard drives between the laptops and put it back and now the ethernet does not work
[15:50] <jess12345> i think it is to do with mac address but not sure
[15:50] <Dre4m> This is really doing my head in,  Installed UBUNTU, go to play a DVD and it says plugins required . . .no problem I understand it needs codecs  . . . I press "search for missing plugin" . . . and it says . . . "No Packages With The Requested Plugins Found" -> The Requested Plugins Are  "DVD SOURCE" . . . anyhelp greatly appreciated thanks in advanced
[15:50] <jess12345> its not wireless
[15:50] <coz_> livingdaylight,    http://do.davebsd.com/wiki/index.php?title=Docky
[15:50] <eurythmia> alright, gone to test and see if I can boot my god-forsaken system now. be back soon!
[15:50] <jess12345> ive had a look around the net and cant find anything of use
[15:50] <friendishan> bybyebye
[15:50] <eurythmia> Dre4m: apt-get install vlc
[15:50] <Dre4m> what does that do?
[15:50] <QuickGold> !ask
[15:50] <coz_> livingdaylight,   there is also cairo-dock and  avant-window-navigator
[15:50] <jess12345> ive even had to get on my windows machine
[15:50] <livingdaylight> coz_: http://linuxowns.wordpress.com/2008/05/08/the-best-and-worst-docks-for-ubuntu/ this is where i heard about it
[15:50] <eurythmia> Dre4m: vlc is build with a goatload of codecs.
[15:50] <ladram> eurythmia : i do it bau wen i put man nmap i have a long file what i can do ?
[15:51] <jess12345> to get into irc
[15:51] <ladram> but
[15:51] <eurythmia> ladram: read the file.
[15:51] <bigpresh> g0wda: I believe that's on-board video, so it will use a configurable amount of the system's main memory for graphics, I'd expect.
[15:51] <jess12345> would really really appreciate any help on this please
[15:51] <Dre4m> why is it doing that though? i mean "oh my god" . . . ubuntu "easy friendly and ready to use" can't play dvds?
[15:51] <Dre4m> can't find a dvd codec?
[15:51] <g0wda> bigpresh how do i configure it then?
[15:52] <eurythmia> Dre4m: apt-cache search libdvdcss
[15:52] <asdfasdfasdf> Dre4m, sure windows finds them easily go back there :)
[15:52] <livingdaylight> coz_: got it ^^
[15:52] <coz_> livingdaylight,  that looks to be a bit old   cairo dock isnt mentioned there  let me check again to be sure
[15:52] <bigpresh> jess12345: It's not as simple as having hit the wifi kill-switch is it? :)
[15:52] <coz_> livingdaylight,  I see it
[15:52] <livingdaylight> coz_: cairo is mentioned. its his favourite
[15:52] <bigpresh> g0wda: In the BIOS, I believe.
[15:52] <Dre4m> I have never used windows in my life so maybe you should go back to windows instead m8 . . now shh
[15:52] <eurythmia> Dre4m: additionally:
[15:52] <coz_> livingdaylight,   take a look at cairo dock   it is the most robust of all the docks
[15:52] <eurythmia> !libdvdcss > Dre4m
[15:52] <Dre4m> I was trying to learn . . carry on eruthmia
[15:52] <coz_> livingdaylight,  and if you are running an nvidia card you can take advantage of the opengl implimentation with it
[15:52] <eurythmia> Dre4m: read the message ubottu sent you :)
[15:52] <jess12345> bigpresh: the wifi is off it is just a lan connection
[15:53] <ladram> eurythmia  : i see in the file that i have that ligne  22/tcp  open   ssh     OpenSSH 3.9p1 (protocol 1.99) so ??
[15:53] <Dre4m>  i have thanks so much
[15:53] <Dre4m> so i can get that via package manager?
[15:53] <bigpresh> jess12345: Ah, sorry, for some reason I read your question as pertaining to wireless.  My bad.
[15:53] <jess12345> bigpresh: it is hard wired not wireless
[15:53] <eurythmia> Dre4m: yep.
[15:53] <eurythmia> okay, gonna reboot be back soon.
[15:53] <ladram> eurythmia : i try to connect to the server but no reponse
[15:54] <Dre4m> so ill just type VLC in package manager and just install whatever comes up then "movie player" will play my dvd ya?
[15:54] <dyf1> hello.. i want to map a keyboard shortcut to execute a command to raise the volume, what is the command to raise volume?
[15:54] <bigpresh> jess12345: More specific, then - what do you mean by "does not work"?  Do you get a link light?  Does the network interface get assigned an IP?
[15:54] <jess12345> bigpresh: it was working before, then I switched laptops and now its not working again - i just switched hard drives as one went in for repair on the touchpad there is nothing wrong with the network card as it works find with a windows HD
[15:54] <ladram> eurythmia : are you here
[15:54] <jess12345> bigpresh: light is on
[15:54] <livingdaylight> coz_: sounds good... i actually, like quite a traditional setup, having never quite been convinced by the need docks apparently serve. Taskbar and workspaces works good here. I was just curious about Docky being a frontend for gnome-do as i hadn't heard of it
[15:54] <coz_> livingdaylight,  let me get  you a screenshot of my cairo dock hold on
[15:55] <coz_> livingdaylight,   http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/132551/dock.png
[15:55] <coz_> livingdaylight,  I actually dont use any dock myself  I only have cairo dock installed so I can create themes for it :)
[15:55] <livingdaylight> coz_: woah... never seen it look like that :)
[15:55] <coz_> livingdaylight,  since I use a wacom tablet  I use Easystroke  instead
[15:56] <treyh> will someone post a link to get my ubuntu box to work with windows dns
[15:56] <jess12345> bigpresh: i get an ip address i think
[15:56] <livingdaylight> coz_: agreed, Docks are definitely for a large monitor... which as i have one now may just be justifiable
[15:56] <jess12345> but it says link speed not available
[15:56] <Dre4m> can someone confirm that if I type VLC in package manager that will supply me with the sufficient codecs to play DVDs in movie player?
[15:56] <coz_> livingdaylight,  well you can set the dock to autohide
[15:57] <bigpresh> jess12345: Interesting.  TBH, my first bit of diagnostics in this case would be to try a different network cable
[15:57] <bigpresh> jess12345: I've seen *weird* problems turn out to actually be cable-related
[15:57] <coz_> livingdaylight,  and if you like you can also use system wide mouse gesture recognition with easystroke
[15:57] <jess12345> bigpresh: checked network cable swapped with the windows machine - working fine
[15:57] <jess12345> bigpresh: is there anyway to re-configure networking
[15:57] <coz_> livingdaylight,  with easystroke docks are some what old in comparison
[15:58]  * livingdaylight googles easystroke
[15:58] <livingdaylight> !easystroke
[15:58] <Dre4m> can someone inform me of a codec pack I can get from package manager that will supply sufficient codecs for me to play dvds?
[15:58] <coz_> livingdaylight,  it is a system wide gesture recognition software
[15:58] <TFK> Hi all
[15:58] <treyh> anyone have any suggestions on accessing windows server for dns requests with ubuntu
[15:58] <coz_> livingdaylight,  you make a stroke with the mouse to open applications  close them run compiz  etc  etc
[15:58] <TFK> can I upgrade from ubuntu 8.10 to 9.04 with an iso file
[15:58] <badfish69> how do i update clamav definitions?
[15:59] <livingdaylight> coz_: in Ubuntu?
[15:59] <coz_> badfish69,   http://ubuntufs.wordpress.com/2008/02/14/update-clamav-in-ubuntu/
[15:59] <coz_> livingdaylight,  yes I use ubuntu here
[15:59] <jess12345> does anyone know how to reconfigure the network without doing a full reinstall
[15:59] <ladram> can you help me the ssh can't connect with ubuntu server whatn can i do ?
[15:59] <coz_> livingdaylight,  easystroke works to near flawless
[16:00] <darthanubis> jess12345, man ifconfig
[16:00] <darthanubis> !network
[16:00] <darthanubis> !networking
[16:00] <livingdaylight> coz_: i'm looking for it
[16:00] <darthanubis> !ifconfig
[16:00] <coz_> livingdaylight,   however without a mouse or graphics tablet it would be useless
[16:00] <livingdaylight> coz_: watching a youtube of it
[16:00] <badfish69> i thought freshclam was supposed to take care of it
[16:00] <coz_> livingdaylight,  if you are good at controlling the mouse  gestures will make accessing and closeing and anything you can do with a mouse at least twice as fast
[16:01] <Dukkan> Para saber informações sobre um canal use: /ChanServ INFO #canal
[16:02] <ladram> ??
[16:02] <flashingpumpkin> yay
[16:02] <flashingpumpkin> ext2 mount funktioniert
[16:02] <Dre4m> Please Help!, I have just installed ubuntu, when I try and play a DVD it says Plugins missing and when it searches to find them it says it cant  find a package with the blah blah blah, how can I get the codecs so movie player can play my DVD?
[16:02] <flashingpumpkin> wargh, + english
[16:03] <Dulak> Dre4m: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[16:04] <Dre4m> so if I type sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/jaunty.list --output-document=/etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list into TERMINAL that will give me DVD CODECS?
[16:04] <mikai> fr
[16:05] <emsenn> Hi there - I've set up a server using the karmic alpha, and it works fine except for one small issue - when I type my IP into my browser URL bar, it changes to the internal IP of the server.  This of course works fine as long as I'm on the same network, but makes my server unreachable from the outside world.
[16:05] <mikai> hi
[16:05] <emsenn> I was wondering how to test to see if it's an issue with Ubuntu, or somewhere else along the line, and if it's Ubuntu, how to resolve it.
[16:05] <nixot> Well I installed compix
[16:05] <nixot> *compiz
[16:06] <nixot> everything works now.. the theme I'm using is small enough :D
[16:06] <nixot> thanks for your help
[16:06] <Dre4m> I have spent 2 hours trying to get UBUNTU to play a dvd and for some reason no one knows how to get it working. everyone gives me links to things I dont understand, Cant anyone please explain the proccess to get UBUNTU to get the DVD CODECS its missing?
[16:06] <coz_> livingdaylight,  I dont see a great video for easystrok on youtube  but this one is adequate    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhMErNsEoZw
[16:06] <Xcell> Dre4m-  did you install restricted extras?
[16:07] <livingdaylight> coz_: i found this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdomiISPKhY
[16:07] <Hiemanshu> !ide
[16:07] <Dre4m> ok xcell , i put dvd in and it says missing plugins when it trys and finds them ti says it cannt
[16:07] <Dre4m> all I want is a bloody dvd codec so I can play a DVD
[16:07] <coz_> livingdaylight,  yeah I didnt like that one but let me watch the whole thing:)
[16:07] <Hiemanshu> Dre4m, get vlc
[16:07] <ladram> can you help me with the ssh ??
[16:07] <Dre4m> will that make movie player play dvds/
[16:08] <Dre4m> ?
[16:08] <Hiemanshu> ladram, whats wrong?
[16:08] <Hiemanshu> Dre4m, yes
[16:08] <Xcell> Dre4m-  did you install (ubuntu-restricted-extras)  ?
[16:08] <jess12345> darthanubis: im not a linux expert sorry hence the help
[16:08] <livingdaylight> coz_: he drones, but its informative... yours - what's with the 6 monitor setup?!?!
[16:08] <Dre4m> no i didnt
[16:08] <coz_> livingdaylight,  yeah that's something right?
[16:08] <Hiemanshu> Dre4m, do sudoapt-get install vlc
[16:08] <Dre4m> how do you type my name so fast? whats the key to make someones name come up as you type it?
[16:08] <Hiemanshu> Dre4m, do sudo apt-get install vlc
[16:08] <ladram> Hiemanshu : i cant to connect with the ssh to the ubuntu server 9.04
[16:08] <LjL> !tab | Dre4m
[16:08] <livingdaylight> coz_: awesome
[16:08] <Hiemanshu> ladram, whats wrong?
[16:08] <Xcell> install them from terminal.. sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:09] <Dre4m> when i hold tab nothing happens lol?
[16:09] <coz_> livingdaylight,  the nice thing about that video beyond the 6 monitors is the way he uses stroke to move windows to any of the monitors
[16:09] <jess12345> darthanubis:  i can work the commands if someone can assist in identification of the problem
[16:09] <Xcell> then reboot and use it should have np
[16:09] <Hiemanshu> Dre4m, type half and then tab :P
[16:09] <Dre4m> Hiemanshu:
[16:09] <jess12345> i really think it is the mac address issue that someone had earlier
[16:09] <Dre4m> hahaha great lol
[16:09] <coz_> livingdaylight,  with easystroke anything that you do with a mouse...keyboard ...or command   can be done with strokes
[16:09] <Dre4m> thanks
[16:09] <Hiemanshu> Xcell, no need to reboot
[16:09] <Dre4m> ill install vlc
[16:09] <Hiemanshu> Dre4m, VLC is the best :)
[16:09] <Dre4m> can i do this via package manager?
[16:09] <Hiemanshu> yes
[16:09] <livingdaylight> coz_: i've installed it... just need to start creating my strokes :)
[16:09] <coz_> livingdaylight,  productivity..or speed...will increase at least 3 times
[16:09] <Hiemanshu> Dre4m, open terminal and then sudo apt-get install vlc
[16:10] <eurythmia> jonaskoelker, would you mind pmming me a stanza of your grub's menu.lst? Mine's busted.
[16:10] <dbrewer_rjr> my server is telling me i do not have the latest version of clamav on boot and in the log files. it just started doing that. whats up with that?
[16:10] <Hiemanshu> Dre4m, its install a lot of codecs :)
[16:10] <Xcell> plus.. for a decent player..smplayer works good and is simple and has decent features
[16:10] <jess12345> can anyone assist with my network problem - sorry to ask again
[16:10] <livingdaylight> coz_: i doubt it in my case; nice thought though :)
[16:10] <Dre4m> Hiemanshu: this says it installs a player
[16:10] <rjune> jess12345: I missed the problem
[16:10] <Hiemanshu> jess12345, what is wrong?
[16:10] <Dre4m> i only wanted the codecs
[16:10] <Hiemanshu> Dre4m, yes
[16:10] <coz_> livingdaylight,  I also want to tell you that easystroke is the most professional gesture recognition on any platform...window...mac   and linux but it is only for linux
[16:10] <jonaskoelker> eurythmia: http://rafb.net/p/0E95Yj33.html
[16:10] <Hiemanshu> Dre4m, VLC is a very good player + installs codecs
[16:10] <Hiemanshu> !vlc
[16:10] <eurythmia> jonaskoelker, thanks.l
[16:10] <ladram> Hiemanshu : i cont to connect to the ubuntu server with ssh
[16:10] <jonaskoelker> eurythmia: np
[16:11] <jess12345> rjune himeans switched hard drives on the laptop and switced back and not ethernet card is not working
[16:11] <jonaskoelker> eurythmia: best of luck :)
[16:11] <livingdaylight> coz_: at last we have one up on them ;p
[16:11] <Hiemanshu> !codes | Dre4m
[16:11] <jess12345> rjune: its not wifi
[16:11] <Hiemanshu> !codecs | Dre4m
[16:11] <coz_> livingdaylight,  if you like it I suggest writing the author of the applications and let him know  we cant afford to lose this application:)
[16:11] <rjune> jess12345: what does ifconfig -a show?
[16:11] <Hiemanshu> ladram, what does it say? does it say anything?
[16:11] <livingdaylight> coz_: prolly hardly anyone knows about this software in Ubuntu. Had you not told me?
[16:11] <eurythmia> jonaskoelker, thanks. I think I'll get it this time around, it's just a matter of fixing where the kernel is looking for my root :)
[16:11] <rjune> jess12345: and if you do lspci, do you see Ethernet someplace
[16:11] <g0wda> My gfx card is blacklisted i guess, running compiz from terminal said "blacklisted device found"
[16:11] <Xcell> Dre4m-  do not forget to enable extra repositories in synapt = sys/ admin / synaptic / repositories  (enable all 3rd parties..
[16:11] <jess12345> rjune: i have eth0  eth0:avahi lo and pan0
[16:11] <ladram> Hiemanshu : yes anything
[16:11] <dbrewer_rjr> my server is telling me i do not have the latest version of clamav on boot and in the log files. it just started doing that. whats up with that?
[16:12] <g0wda> noe is there any workaround? is it advicable?
[16:12] <coz_> livingdaylight,  well I have been using gesture recognition for years on windows  and this was the one thing on linux that was sorely missing
[16:12] <Dre4m> what does that do Xcell?
[16:12] <g0wda> *now
[16:12] <livingdaylight> coz_: hehe... i will ask his birthday too
[16:12] <Xcell> allows you to install extras
[16:12] <Hiemanshu> Dre4m, add extra repos that contain codecs
[16:12] <jess12345> rjune: lspci can see the ethernet controller
[16:12] <coz_> livingdaylight,  test it out  its quite a prefessional app and it also has the ability to use compiz plugins like fire  etc  to  decorate the strokes
[16:12] <Dre4m> why dont they just give you them when you get ubuntu fs? I really don't understand , , , ok let me try that
[16:12] <ladram> Hiemanshu : what can i do please?
[16:13] <rjune> jess12345: that's good, does ifconfig -a show it?
[16:13] <Hiemanshu> ladram, how do you connect?
[16:13] <eurythmia> Dre4m, because of licensing issues ... you have to enable universe and multiverse for them all.
[16:13] <jess12345> rjune: 02:00.
[16:13] <coz_> livingdaylight,  it is also n sroke meaning there is no number of strokes it cant handle
[16:13] <Hiemanshu> ladram, is SSHD running on the server?
[16:13] <ladram> Hiemanshu : i put ssh test 192.168.1.4
[16:13] <Dulak> Dre4m: I pasted you the medibuntu page, which describes exactly what to do to get DVDs working, if you had actually read it, you would be fixed by now
[16:13] <rjune> jess12345: ifconfig -a will have something akin to ethX where X is a number
[16:13] <jess12345> rjune: ifconfig shows eth0 with a hardware address up broadcast running
[16:14] <Hiemanshu> ladram, whats the test for?
[16:14] <Dulak> Dre4m: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[16:14] <rjune> jess12345: oh good.
[16:14] <g0wda> My gfx card is blacklisted i guess, running compiz from terminal said "blacklisted device found"... now is there any workaround? is it advicable?
[16:14] <rjune> was it eth0 before?
[16:14] <ladram> Hiemanshu : is the name of the server ubuntu
[16:14] <livingdaylight> coz_: question: what is the danger of moving around one's Desktop and unintentionally making strokes and launching apps left right and center?
[16:14] <Hiemanshu> ladram, you dont need to do that
[16:14] <ladram> Hiemanshu : how can i  run sshd
[16:14] <jess12345> rjune: i cant remember i think it was either eth0 or lo if lo can run on this
[16:14] <Yankefish> how do i enable my dual core in ubuntu??
[16:14] <rjune> jess12345: lo == loopback, it should always exist.
[16:14] <Slart> Yankefish: it should be enabled by default
[16:14] <rjune> jess12345: try this, ifcfg eth0
[16:14] <Hiemanshu> ladram, ssh 192.168.0.4 should work
[16:15] <Hiemanshu> ladram, /etc/init.d/sshd start
[16:15] <livingdaylight> coz_: sorry, i know, 'coz they're only launched in combination with a stroke + mouse-click held down, right?
[16:15] <coz_> livingdaylight,  danger?  none  if the sroke is not recognized nothing will happen but the system will beep.. and
[16:15] <coz_> livingdaylight,  no
[16:15] <ladram> Hiemanshu : ssh 192.168.1.4 don"t work
[16:15] <Slart> Yankefish: do a less /proc/cpuinfo
[16:15] <coz_> livingdaylight,  you can attache a modifyer key but it's not necessary
[16:15] <Hiemanshu> ladram, are you sure SSHD is running
[16:15] <Hiemanshu> !ssh | ladram
[16:15] <Slart> Yankefish: you should see one section for each core.. starting with "processor    : 0"
[16:16] <coz_> livingdaylight, when you open easystroke go to the preferences tab
[16:16] <bug__> ubuntu 9.04 not let me upload fotos on facebook..?
[16:16]  * eurythmia is off again in hope that grub now works correctly.
[16:16] <emsenn> Does anyone know why my server is insisting on redirecting to it's internal IP
[16:16] <coz_> livingdaylight,  select which mouse button you want to use first
[16:16] <Yankefish> ok thx slart, was wondering cuz my ubuntu is running kinda slow now
[16:16] <jess12345> rjune: one other thing is that i have eth0 and pan0 with different hardware address, pan 0 did not exist before but it has appeared (ifcfg command not found)
[16:16] <Yankefish> my swap is 4 gb
[16:16] <rjune> jess12345: gah, sorry, ifup eth0
[16:16] <Sangrial> Good morning anyone on?
[16:16] <ladram> Hiemanshu : when i put this command i have a message erroe this command not found
[16:17] <rjune> jess12345: then do ifconfig eth0
[16:17] <coz_> livingdaylight,  then  in the Actions tab  click the "Add action" tab  and lets say you want to open gnome-terminal
[16:17] <jess12345> rjune ifup failed to open statefile ......../ permission denies
[16:17] <rjune> jess12345: sudo ifup eth0 it has to be run as root
[16:17] <cReAtivE_> just installed ubuntu, monitor gets no signal at boot can any1 help me pls ? (radeon x1600 with tv-out, fresh install)
[16:17] <coz_> livingdaylight, when you click that Add action button  the window shows a "gesture" with number  you type the name
[16:17] <coz_> livingdaylight,  then hit enter
[16:18] <ladram> Hiemanshu : yes i have a file sshd is empty
[16:18] <livingdaylight> coz_: Terminal in this case
[16:18] <coz_> livingdaylight,  then the "COmmand" field is highlighted and you can for gnome terminl type    gnome-terminal
[16:18] <g0wda> xMy gfx card is blacklisted i guess, running compiz from terminal said "blacklisted device found"... now is there any workaround? is it advicable?
[16:18] <jess12345> rjune sudo ifup eth0 = ignoring unknown interface eth0 = eth0
[16:18] <g0wda> ?
[16:18] <Yankefish> anybody know why sometimes my keyboar doesnt work with ubuntu
[16:18] <Sangrial> Question: How do I remove ubuntu? NOTHING is working, windows xp wont reformat, previous version says I/O error , the current cd just goes to boot menu
[16:18] <rjune> jess12345: that's interesting, sounds like it's not configured, you are using GNOME, right?
[16:18] <ladram> Hiemanshu : what can i do?
[16:18] <coz_> livingdaylight,  then hit enter  and then create the stroke for the terminal
[16:18] <jess12345> rjune: yes - it was before i did the switch back and forth
[16:19] <livingdaylight> coz_: whooohoo... what stroke shall i make my first stroke?
[16:19] <rjune> jess12345: do you see the network manager applet in the ... upper right hand corner I think
[16:19] <jess12345> rjunet ifconfig eth0 returns link encap: ethernet + hardware address
[16:19] <LjL> Sangrial: bad CD-ROM drive?
[16:19] <jess12345> rjune yes
[16:19] <rjune> jess12345: but does it have a proper eth0 address?
[16:19] <coz_> livingdaylight,  ah that is up to your and which one you will remember  :)
[16:19] <g0wda> My gfx card is blacklisted i guess, running compiz from terminal said "blacklisted device found"... now is there any workaround? is it advicable?
[16:19] <jess12345> rjune: connection properties lo
[16:19] <g0wda> X(
[16:19] <coz_> livingdaylight,  it can be as simple as a straight line of as complex as  a keltic knot:)
[16:20] <ladram> Hiemanshu : are you there
[16:20] <rjune> jess12345: lo is not relevant right now.
[16:20] <g0wda> :'(
[16:20] <Sangrial> LjL: thought has occured to me...
[16:20] <rjune> jess12345: do you know how to configure an ethernet device with network manager?
[16:20] <coz_> livingdaylight,  i suggest not making any stroke quite as complex as a keltic know though :)
[16:20] <jess12345> rjune: it has eth0:avahi but status error
[16:20] <jess12345> rjune: no as it did it all automatically on initial install
[16:21] <TFK> Can I make an uprade to 9.04 with iso image  ?
[16:21] <coz_> livingdaylight,    http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/132551/Screenshot-easystroke.png
[16:21] <rjune> jess12345: need to either click and get edit or right click and get edit in the network manager applet
[16:21] <jess12345> rjune: is there any way to do this ? i just need to recongfiure from scratch
[16:21] <rjune> I don't use GNOME so I'm semi blind
[16:22] <livingdaylight> coz_: lol, i made a diagonal and instead of gnome-terminal it launched 'Appearances'
[16:22] <g0wda> why do graphics cards get blacklisted?
[16:22] <jess12345> rjune: is there anyway i can launch it from command line ? i cant seem to get anything configured using the applet
[16:22] <coz_> livingdaylight,  oo   yeah just remembering the strokes is likely the most difficutlt part of this
[16:22] <rjune> ifconfig eth0 IP_ADDRESS netmask NETMASK
[16:23] <g0wda> why do graphics cards get blacklisted?
[16:23] <coz_> livingdaylight,  you will also notice that in the config window the strokes  begin with blue and end in that yellow green or whatever  showing the directions that way
[16:23] <ohir> g0wda: because of a) manufacturer won't give info about card hardware to developers
[16:23] <jess12345> rjune: i have xnnetcardconfig - i will install that and try ?
[16:23] <radovan> hello world, looking for some kvm guru. got some issues in kvm 84 in 9.04
[16:23] <g0wda> Mine's Intel, many other Intel cards work!
[16:23] <ohir> g0wda: b) because card is known to cause bad things on several mobo chipsets
[16:24] <g0wda> oh...
[16:24] <coz_> livingdaylight,  did you see the screenshot of my gestures?
[16:24] <g0wda> so how can i say which one mine doesnt pass?
[16:24] <ohir> g0wda: yes, its true. But if its intel and is blackisted see reason b)
[16:24] <Dre4m> hi
[16:24] <radovan> hello world, looking for some kvm guru. got some _serious_ issues in kvm 84 in 9.04
[16:24] <g0wda> :(
[16:24] <eschulz> hello all
[16:24] <g0wda> so only option is to change to one that is supported?
[16:25] <Dre4m> earlyer someone said to me, I need to enable respotries thrird party something or other in synaptic to be able to play dvds so movie player would have codecs it needs. . . how is this done?
[16:25] <livingdaylight> coz_: yes, but having problems here setting my first one up
[16:25] <ladram> can you help me please i have a problem to connect to the server ubuntu 9.04 with the ssh
[16:25] <ohir> g0wda: its not a solution, but this particular card likely can be unblacklisted if your mobo will be all-intel
[16:26] <g0wda> my mobo is MSI 533, i don't know what that means actually
[16:26] <ohir> g0wda: unless you are experienced luser, the best is to change graphics
[16:26] <Dre4m> PLEASE can someone tell me how I can Just install CODECS that allow playback of DVD . . . AS UBUNTU can;t find the plugin it needs to play a dvd
[16:26] <coz_> livingdaylight,  first hit "Add action"  type in the name  then hit enter decide if it is command or keystroke ...hit enter  then make stroke
[16:26] <Dre4m> 3 hours so far and I still cant play a dvd
[16:26] <livingdaylight> coz_: do i have to 'Add application' first?
[16:27] <g0wda> I have hope that the community's got my back!
[16:27] <coz_> livingdaylight, not sure what you mean when you first click the add action button that is where you type in the name of what you are doing
[16:27] <ohir> g0wda: it means that it has no intel chipset and thats why your intel card is blacklisted
[16:27] <ITPro> Any1 here knows about EXT4 file deletion Security?  is it possible to recover the removed files?
[16:27] <coz_> livingdaylight,  then hit enter    then decide if it is a command or key sequence  then hit enter again
[16:27] <g0wda> I'll try asking this on launchpad...
[16:27] <coz_> livingdaylight,  and draw the stroke
[16:27] <psycoborg> wow. i installed kde, and at a loss for words.
[16:27] <microcai> Dre4m: apt-get install gstreamer*
[16:28] <psycoborg> they are both nice and run very well.
[16:28] <ohir> g0wda: if you wanna try hard, do research for 'your-card-name' + HOWTO
[16:28] <Dre4m> microcai: whats that?
[16:28] <ladram> hello
[16:28] <radovan> looking for some kvm guru. got some issues in kvm 84 in 9.04
[16:28] <ladram> ??
[16:28] <rjune> jess12345: I don't know what that program does
[16:28] <jetsaredim> is there a way to adjust the audio sync in totem?
[16:28] <microcai> Dre4m: Install all the gstreamer plugins
[16:28] <livingdaylight> coz_: in the top of the configuration tool there is +Add Application and +Add Group
[16:29] <jess12345> rjune: i cant install anyway dont have a connection.......can i reconfigure from the command line ?
[16:29] <ohir> g0wda: if you are brave enough to do custom kernel and Xorg :)
[16:29] <coz_> livingdaylight,  hit  alt+printscreen and upload the image to picpaste.com let me see what you mean
[16:29] <Dre4m> microcai: it looks as if most are?
[16:29] <coz_> livingdaylight,  make sure easystroke is the focused window when you hit alt+printscreen
[16:30] <Dre4m> I cant belive how hard it is on ubuntu to watch a dvd I really am shocked. all I want is for the default "movie player" to be able to play DVDS??????/
[16:30] <microcai> Dre4m: ANd then most codecs will be intalled
[16:30] <coz_> livingdaylight,  oh I see nevermind
[16:30] <coz_> livingdaylight,  I would play with that later on
[16:30] <eurythmia> so, my system is b0rked :/
[16:30] <Dre4m> GStreamer plugins from the "ugly" set (Multiverse Variant)
[16:30] <alienseer23> I'm looking for a pdf creation/editng program that can embed fonts into a pre-existing pdf, that has a nice and friendly GUI, anybody help me with some direction?
[16:30] <coz_> livingdaylight,  simply click the add actions button first and name the action
[16:30] <rjune> jess12345: ifconfig eth0 IP_ADDRESS netmask NETMASK
[16:30] <Dre4m> GStreamer plugins from the "ugly" set (Multiverse Variant)????????
[16:30] <hwilde> Hello.  Could someone please verify that this fails due to unmet dependencies:    sudo apt-get install libcv-dev
[16:30] <microcai> Dre4m: YES, install it
[16:31] <coz_> livingdaylight,  then hit the "enter" key  and usind the arrows decide which a command or keystroke and hit enter again
[16:31] <ITPro> Any1 here knows about EXT4 file deletion Security?  is it possible to recover the removed files?
[16:31] <coz_> livingdaylight,  then click the Record stroke button and make the stroke
[16:31] <microcai> Dre4m: And gstreamer-bad
[16:31] <coz_> livingdaylight,  that should do it
[16:31] <Dre4m> i bet it wont work, just trying it
[16:32] <RanyAlbeg> i extracted an audio cd using cdparanoia -wB -d /dev/sr0 .. now cant find the files.
[16:32] <eurythmia> jonaskoelker, my menu.lst is here (http://www.pastebin.ca/1429987 ), my linux root is on /dev/sda6 (home is on /dev/sda7), and my system stops on "waiting for root filesystem" on boot (I removed quiet and splash from the boot args). help :/
[16:32] <Dre4m> pluygin not installed
[16:32] <Dre4m> I give up
[16:32] <chl_> is there somebody who could help me with getting my mobile broadband up and running ?
[16:32] <Dre4m> back to windows
[16:32] <radovan> looking for some kvm guru. got serious issues in kvm 84 in 9.04
[16:32] <coz_> livingdaylight,  here is the main page and if you scroll down there is documentation as well as tips and tricks    http://easystroke.wiki.sourceforge.net/
[16:32] <chl_> it worked on 8.10
[16:32] <RanyAlbeg> i extracted an audio cd using cdparanoia -wB -d /dev/sr0 .. now cant find the files.
[16:33] <Dre4m> I tired the "linux experience" if it takes me 3 hours to not be able to play a dvd then windows is better in my opinion. Thanks to all who tried. 1500 people and not one knows how to play a dvd
[16:33] <Dre4m> gg
[16:33] <rjune> ?
[16:33] <Dulak> Dre4m: DId you read the page I linked to you twice?  Did you do what it said to make dvds work?   If you had I think it would be solved.
[16:33] <jess12345> rjune sudo ifconfig eth0  xx.xxx.  returns SIOCSFADDR : file exists
[16:33] <Dulak> Dre4m: it's a 2 minute read, are you really that lazy?
[16:33] <jess12345> rjune how do i get the net mask ?
[16:33]  * microcai hi guys. Some one just give and back to Window$
[16:33] <rjune> it's given to you by whoever runs your network
[16:33] <coz_> livingdaylight,  under the "Applications" pull down you were talking about  I generally just leave that at default and make all gestures withing the primary window there
[16:33] <jonaskoelker> eurythmia: and the only thing you changed going from bootable to not-bootable is menu.list?
[16:34] <hwilde> Hello.  Could someone please verify that this fails due to unmet dependencies:    sudo apt-get install libcv-dev
[16:34] <rjune> jess12345: it's given to you by whoever runs your network
[16:34] <eurythmia> jonaskoelker, nope ... it was switching from lilo to grub.
[16:34] <livingdaylight> coz_: http://img20.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot1n.png
[16:34] <ozzmosis> Need to get 275MB of archives.  yikes .. Eclipse is rather big :)
[16:34] <jonaskoelker> eurythmia: ah
[16:34] <pim_> Hi I'm trying to connect my Acer Aspire One with a  RealTek RTL8101E Fast Ethernet controller to the internet, using a wireless repeater which is configured as a regular network adapter. However, when I plug it in it says: network disconnected. I'm using Ubuntu 9.04 Netbook Remix
[16:34] <eurythmia> ozzmosis, you're better off downloading eclipse from the website.
[16:35] <ozzmosis> eurythmia: it's ok, I don't need it :)
[16:35] <coz_> livingdaylight,  right as I said,,, I generaly dont use that  I simply use the main window to add apps+strokes  but that link I linked you to should give a bit more informatoin
[16:35] <eurythmia> jonaskoelker, yeah; the only reason I installed lilo was because I accidentally hit enter when the choice of bootloader to install came up (why, oh WHY is lilo selected first by default, and why isn't there a confirmation dialogue?)
[16:35] <ozzmosis> eurythmia: kkathman was asking about developer IDEs earlier and I mentioned it.  didn't realise it was so huge :)
[16:36] <coz_> livingdaylight,  I see you have gnome-terminal already iun the gesture window now all you need to do is click the record strok button and make a stroke for it
[16:36] <jess12345> rjune: ok got it from the windows machine i think get the following socsifaddr file exists siocsifnetmask : cannot assign requested address
[16:36] <ilor> hi all, I'm having a strange issue with my sound settings, I do get the login/logout jingles and amarok plays mp3s fine, but I get no sound in movies, and when I go to system/prefeences/sound, none of the "test" buttons make any sound. Suggestions?
[16:36] <livingdaylight> coz_: that's what i've done 20 times but it doesn't record it
[16:37] <coz_> livingdaylight,  are you sure you are using the correct mouse button you assigned and also be sure you have that gnome terminal line highlighted when you try to create a gesture
[16:37] <ilor> The sound card is an integrated Intel ALC660-VD (it's a laptop)
[16:37] <panfist> where would messages go if a cron job failed or completed successfully?
[16:37] <jag_> !oacman
[16:38] <livingdaylight> coz_: ive set it to button 2 which is the scroll wheel on my mouse
[16:38] <eurythmia> oh well ... maybe I'll just reinstall the base system :/
[16:38] <radovan> looking for some kvm guru. got some serious issues in kvm-84 in 9.04
[16:38] <jag_> !pacman
[16:38] <Pici> jag_: Ubuntu doesn't use pacman for package management, we use apt and dpkg
[16:38] <mattgyver> When using ffmpeg to convert video to audio, i recieve 'unknown encoder: libmp3lame' i have libmp3lame0, and libmp3lame-dev installed.  Could anyone help?
[16:39] <rjune> jess12345: ahh, yeah, you hve to do ifconfig as root, so sudo first
[16:39] <ozzmosis> mattgyver: you know you can use mplayer to extract audio from video?
[16:39] <jess12345> rjune: yes it was at root sudo
[16:39] <mattgyver> ozzmosis, yes but im actually doing this all via command line in debian ';(
[16:39] <jess12345> rjune: but now i get nothing
[16:39] <radovan> mattgyver: you can't hear what you see :)
[16:40] <jonaskoelker> eurythmia: well, I don't know how to fix your menu.list, but you could try all other device names instead of /dev/sda6
[16:40] <jess12345> rjune: when i look at the network information i see ip address 127.0.0.1 net mask as 255.0.0.0 under ipv4 but under ipv6 i see ip address as ::1 and netmask as 128
[16:40] <eurythmia> jonaskoelker, at this point in time, it would be easier and less time consuming for me to reinstall the base system and bootloader, so I think that's what I'm gonna do :/
[16:41] <ozzmosis> mattgyver: yes .. mplayer -ao pcm -vo null inputfile.avi  .. will generate audiodump.wav
[16:41] <jonaskoelker> eurythmia: that sometimes works :)  I did that for my video box the other week :D
[16:41] <Dulak> jess12345: ::1 is loopback for ipv6
[16:42] <eurythmia> jonaskoelker, :/
[16:42] <jess12345> rjune: yes
[16:42] <rjune> jess12345: that's a loopback address, not a network address
[16:42] <jess12345> rjune: ok under eth0:avhi i only have ipv4 with a ip - that is the ip i used
[16:42] <jonaskoelker> question for y'all: my computer becomes warm and mplayer starts playing back videos kinda' laggy.  How can I play back video, non-laggy?  Can I somehow cool my box better?
[16:43] <jess12345> rjune: ip is 169.254..... and net mask is 255.255.0.0
[16:43] <ozzmosis> jonaskoelker: what box is it?
[16:43] <rjune> jess12345: ok, that's a link-local address
[16:43] <rjune> zeroconf, etc. IIRC
[16:43] <jess12345> rjune: so i did sudo ifconfig eth0 ip address netmask 255.255.0.0
[16:43] <jonaskoelker> ozzmosis: zartego 1sw, running 8.10
[16:43] <rjune> jess12345: do you know what address should be used on your network?
[16:43] <jag_> !pacman
[16:44] <rjune> jess12345: or better yet, are you network admin?
[16:44] <hwilde> Hello.  Could someone please verify that this fails due to unmet dependencies:    sudo apt-get install libcv-dev
[16:44] <jonaskoelker> ozzmosis: celeron 1.7ghz, 945gm intel onboard gfx card
[16:44] <eurythmia> jonaskoelker, you could do caching, but I can't remember how to do that with mplayer.
[16:44] <genii> An IP of 169.254.x.x usually means your adapter did not get an IP from some dhcp server
[16:44] <eurythmia> ... that would only take care of the lag though.
[16:44] <eurythmia> jonaskoelker, celeron ... yuck. how old is it?
[16:44] <rjune> genii: assuming dhcp server is used on the network
[16:45] <jess12345> rjune: am in an office so can find out i have a windows machine on the same network
[16:45] <jonaskoelker> eurythmia: ~4 years
[16:45] <rjune> jess12345: find out if you have a network server, if you do, dhclient eth0 should get your address
[16:45] <eurythmia> jonaskoelker, and it's not dead yet? I'm impressed.
[16:45] <rjune> no harm in trying that if you dont' have one
[16:45] <jess12345> rjune: it did do for the windows machine
[16:45] <ozzmosis> jonaskoelker: hmm, yeah, those celerons tend to run a bit warm.  have you blown the dust out of it?
[16:45] <rjune> jess12345: dhcp server, not network server
[16:45] <jonaskoelker> ozzmosis: no, how do I go about doing that?
[16:46] <eurythmia> jonaskoelker, pull the cover off of the computer and go mad with a can of compressed air.
[16:46] <petsounds> hello, tomorrow i'm going to buy a new hard disk, and i want to use it for single boot. i read from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=282018, about creating partitioning but i don't really understand it and i need interactive guidance. the point is i want to create 2 partitions (C, D) so if i need to reinstalling ubuntu i don't lose any of my data on drive D. thanks b4
[16:46] <jonaskoelker> eurythmia: hey, cool; apparently -cache 65536 seems to do wonders
[16:46] <jess12345> rjune: i dont think it is to do with the network or the assisgment of the ip as the before it was working and was plug and play.......i think it is really to do with themac address that happened when I switched hard drives around on the laptop
[16:46] <eurythmia> jonaskoelker, won't help the cooling problem, unfortunately ;)
[16:46] <jonaskoelker> eurythmia: compressed air is sold where? grocery stores, hardware stores?
[16:47] <jess12345> rjune: the network was working fine prior to switch and both machines just plugged in the network cable and they both workedf
[16:47] <ozzmosis> eurythmia: actually it can sometimes
[16:47]  * n00b is watching all the crap
[16:47] <eurythmia> jonaskoelker, you can usually find it at staples, the source, or any computer store.
[16:47] <ozzmosis> eurythmia: if there's a thick layer of dust between the cpu fan and the heatsink under it, the fan won't cool the heatsink properly
[16:47] <genii> petsounds: There is no "C: D:"  etc types in linux. In ubuntu the first hd is usually called sda for instance, the second sdb and so on in this way. The partitions on these disks would be like sda1 sda2    sdb1 sdb2 and like this.
[16:48] <eurythmia> ozzmosis, oh, I was talking about the caching ... I know that the blowing will work wonders :)
[16:48] <ozzmosis> eurythmia: ah, missed that, sorry
[16:48] <eurythmia> ozzmosis, np :)
[16:48] <jonaskoelker> eurythmia: "blowing will work wonders" -- I told that to my girlfriend as well :D
[16:48] <dbrewer_rjr> is there going to be an update package for clamav soon? i am getting a warning on boot. is this dangerous?
[16:48] <jess12345> rjune: im trying it on another network
[16:49] <rjune> jess12345: changing the hard drive shouldn't affect the mac
[16:49] <eurythmia> genii, that depends on the bus the disk is connected to. SCSI, or SATA drives use sd<n> where <n> is some letter of the alphabet, IDE (aka PATA) drives use hd<n>
[16:49] <ozzmosis> dbrewer_rjr: afaik there are no known viruses for linux, so not really.
[16:49] <livingdaylight> coz_: hi
[16:49] <eurythmia> jonaskoelker, mine already knows it ;)\
[16:49] <|lekarousar|> does anyone know how to fix the keyboard problem in jaunty?
[16:49] <genii> eurythmia: No, in Ubuntu all is now mapped to scsi layer. All ide too are now sdX
[16:49] <dbrewer_rjr> ozzmosis: is anyone else getting the warning about the version being old?
[16:49] <jess12345> rjune: i did read it somewhere but im going to try it on another desk all the desks were plug and play
[16:50] <jess12345> rjune: why can life be so difficult and the market has collapsed 2% today as well
[16:50] <jonaskoelker> eurythmia: :)
[16:50] <ozzmosis> jonaskoelker: I have an air compressor (same as what they have at gas stations) in my garage, but you could probably use a leaf blower with the bag removed.  just make sure there are no stones inside it first, otherwise it could kinda kill your PC.
[16:50] <Pici> !offtopic
[16:50] <eurythmia> genii, my IDE cdrom drive maps to hda.
[16:50] <petsounds> genii : can i use sda1 for program files and sda2 for my data? and what happen if i reinstalling ubuntu? did sda 2 stay untouch and safe?
[16:51] <ozzmosis> Pici: good point, sorry ;)
[16:51] <Pici> ozzmosis: ##hardware may be a better place for this discussion
[16:51] <jonaskoelker> ozzmosis: "leaf blower" sounds like a tool... all I have is four screwdrivers, and no garage ;-)
[16:51] <BimBirim> народ! В проводнике показывает скрытые файлы в Домашней папке. Нажимаю ctr+H, их не показует. Но когда закрываю, а потом по новому открываю, то все равно видный скрытые файлы. Как здеаать что бы сохранило?
[16:51] <genii> eurythmia: Versions prior to 7.04 may still use the hdX
[16:51] <Pici> !ru | BimBirim
[16:52] <ohir> petsounds: certainly. You should do separate partition for /home
[16:52] <ozzmosis> I've got a ubuntu question!  when you run apt-get install .. my assumption is that when the download is fairly small, like less than 1 MB, it won't prompt you if you want to go ahead, otherwise it will .. is that right?
[16:52] <TiCPU> ozzmosis: it will ask only when there are dependencies
[16:53] <ozzmosis> oh, ok
[16:53] <petsounds> ohir : how can i do it sir?
[16:53] <genii> petsounds: There is the concept of "mount points". So the place your personal stuff is in a directory structure like /home/yourname     and the dir /home  can actually be an entirely different disk or partition for instance, which is "mounted" to that dir. This is how it works for the most part.
[16:53] <jess12345> rjune: thanks for this.........you are 100% correct it is the connection, apologise for this.......it looks like the network guys seem to have made some changes !!!!
[16:53] <ozzmosis> thanks TiCPU
[16:54] <ozzmosis> would be handy if that was documented in the manpage for apt-get
[16:54] <ohir> petsounds: in install time you can layout your disks manually. Installer will ask you. But before you start you should read good HOWTO about partitioning.
[16:55] <TiCPU> ozzmosis: isn't it?  I don't remember the question asked by apt-get when there are dependencies, but I though it was related to this.
[16:55] <ozzmosis> TiCPU: not that I can see
[16:55] <petsounds> genii : you mean my data will still safe if i reinstalling ubuntu?
[16:56] <ozzmosis> TiCPU: although it may be written somewhere else, so I'm not being too hard about it
[16:56] <ohir> petsounds: it is not that far from other-win-world. Just instead of getting D: from system you choose to get partition mounted at /home
[16:56] <genii> petsounds: If you have /home on say a second drive and the / (root") filesystem on the first, you can install linux again to the / and everything in /home remains untouched
[16:57] <petsounds> ohir : i have doing  manual partitioning in my old 80gb HD but it says to small size or something.
[16:58] <genii> !fhs | petsounds - there is a description of the way the directories are structured and what most are for here -
[16:59] <Bram_P> hello, I can't seem to upgrade ubuntu (8.10) to the newest version (9.04) can someone tell me how to?
[16:59] <ozzmosis> genii: is there a list of commands for ubottu?
[16:59] <genii> !bot > ozzmosis
[16:59] <ozzmosis> cheers
[16:59] <ohir> petsounds: you need minimum 6G for your / partition. It should be some 15-20G if you plan to install many apps
[16:59] <jag__> how do i get my desktop visual effects working?
[17:00] <ohir> petsounds: rest can go to your /home
[17:00] <ohir> remaining space*
[17:02] <ozzmosis> ohir: whoa, 6G?  basic install for 9.04 desktop was about 2.5 GB for me.
[17:02] <pim_> Which software is there to show me all available wireless networks, when I have my wireless network adapter activated?
[17:02] <mobi-sheep> pim_: Network Manager applet in your notification tray.
[17:02] <jag__> why cant i enable my visual effects in hardy ? running nvidia 9500GT with driver NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-169.12-pkg2
[17:02] <ohir> ozzmosis: casual users will try games...
[17:03] <ozzmosis> ohir: well ok :)
[17:03] <pim_> is that also installed in the netbook remix mobi-sheep?
[17:03] <ohir> ozzmosis: if they were for basic console they would not be here ;)
[17:03] <ozzmosis> ohir: you never know ;)
[17:04] <petsounds> okay, i'm gonna asking you two tomorrow when i get my new hd. thank you for quick response
[17:04] <mobi-sheep> pim_: I believe so.
[17:04] <jag__> why cant i enable my visual effects in hardy ? akso my gl screensavers not working ? running nvidia 9500GT with driver NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-169.12-pkg2
[17:04] <ozzmosis> jag__: glgears doesn't work?
[17:05] <ozzmosis> glxgears, sorry
[17:05] <jag__> ozzmosis: nope . .  it used to . . .
[17:05] <mobi-sheep> !effect | jag__
[17:05] <mobi-sheep> !effects | jag__
[17:05] <ozzmosis> jag__: maybe you're running the nv driver, not the nvidia one
[17:05] <jag__> ozzmosis: how do I check which 1 Im using ??
[17:06] <phillipsm> Does anyone have any experience storing files on a vista partition thats visible from your ubuntu.. I can't shrink my vista partition because of some master file table bs and my 9 gb ubuntu install is nearing its limit...is this a bad idea?
[17:06] <jag__> ozzmosis: nv being ?? default  ??
[17:06] <phillipsm> i know obviously storing software isn't good but simple media things...
[17:07] <mobi-sheep> pim_: Try ALT+F2 --> nm-applet
[17:07] <ohir> ozzmosis: you got your 2.5G ;>
[17:07] <lolium> Could some body help me with a linux problem involving accessing windows files??
[17:08] <ozzmosis> jag__: nv is the open source nvidia driver but it doesn't do 3D, afaik.  /var/log/Xorg.0.log should tell you which driver you're using.  should be able to open it in gedit.
[17:08] <richard> hello
[17:08] <jag__> ozzmosis: dropd to shell using CTRL+alt + F2 , then set runlevel 1 , then 3 .   then ran sudo NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-169.12-pkg2.run
[17:08] <vigo> jag__: lspci ?
[17:08] <Guest40762> hello?
[17:08] <ozzmosis> Guest40762: hello
[17:08] <unko> hey guys, i have a question. can someone help me out with making a luncher for my widget layer.. i already have the script but when i move my widget and let go of click it exits the widget layer... can anyone find a simple solution to this??
[17:09] <keen101> lolium, what kind of problem?
[17:09] <jag__> vigo: tells me the hardware not driver it uses . .
[17:09] <lolium> can we talk in direct chat because its long to explain??
[17:09] <Guest40762> got a login problim
[17:09] <ozzmosis> !ask lolium
[17:09] <ozzmosis> ok, that didn't work ;)
[17:10] <mobi-sheep> lolium: Chat here.  Because one's opinions and one's solutions is not necessarily right.
[17:10] <ozzmosis> !ask | lolium
[17:10] <ozzmosis> there we go
[17:10] <lolium> okaii then
[17:10] <jag__> ozzmosis: (II) NVIDIA GLX Module  169.12  out of my log
[17:10] <richard_> hello got a login problem
[17:11] <jag__> ozzmosis: (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
[17:11] <ozzmosis> jag__: that doesn't look good :)
[17:11] <Bodsda> Hi, is there any way of unmounting /home partition without rebooting to recovery mode or live cd?
[17:12] <lolium> i put linux on a computer at school and put it on the domain, users can log in on it but i need to know how to set it up so when a user logs in for example sam* it will locate that folder sam* on the server were the windows user files are kept, ive tried browsing to the folders through linux before but it asks for a password, is there a way to set this up? if you need more info i have a text document on web explaining what i
[17:12] <lolium> nfo there is and what i want doing
[17:12] <b0uncer> Good evening (local time)! I noticed that when pasting text with mouse wheel [in Gedit] in Ubuntu 9.04 the page jumps back to the place where I selected the text-to-be-copied right when I click, which is annoying and did not happen in 8.10 or earlier versions..anybody got a clue what this is all about?
[17:12] <ozzmosis> Bodsda: not while it's in use
[17:12] <richard_> hello?
[17:12] <jag__> ozzmosis: (II) NV: driver for NVIDIA chipsets: RIVA 128, RIVA TNT blabla  . . .does this mean that if it shows in log it is using it ?( the open source )
[17:12] <Bodsda> ozzmosis: ok, how can i stop it from being in use?
[17:12] <b0uncer> It irritates when I copy text from page X and paste to page X+50 and then get thrown back to page X
[17:12] <mysticdarkhack> hello
[17:13] <jag__> ozzmosis: (II) NV: driver for NVIDIA chipsets: RIVA 128, RIVA TNT blabla  . . .does this mean that if it shows in log it is using it ?( the open source )
[17:13] <richard_> got a problem login in
[17:13] <mysticdarkhack> anyone here know the location to the default help blue icon?
[17:13] <Bodsda> !patience | jag__
[17:13] <ozzmosis> Bodsda: possibly shut down gdm, then login as root from the console.  except I don't think you can login as root in ubuntu.  so recovery mode might be it.
[17:13] <Bodsda> ozzmosis: i should be able to su to root though
[17:13] <Bodsda> il give it a go ty
[17:14] <mysticdarkhack> ?
[17:14] <ozzmosis> Bodsda: but that means you're logged in as a non-root user, which means /home is in use :)
[17:14] <phillipsm> !samba | lolium
[17:14] <xukun> is there a way to stop that network-manager is asking the default keyring? Iḿ using ubuntu 8.10
[17:14] <jag__> Bodsda: my connection keeps dropping . .  I wasnt sure if my msg went through . . lol
[17:14] <dajhorn> Bodsda: Set a root password, login as root, and then use `telinit` to switch to single user mode.
[17:14] <phillipsm> lolium ^^
[17:14] <b0uncer> apparently the same goes now for all X apps...not just Gedit :/
[17:14] <richard_> can get into ubuntu desktop
[17:14] <vigo> jag_: Have you tried Envy?
[17:14] <dajhorn> Bodsda: It will be easier to unmount filesystems from single user mode.
[17:15] <richard_> hello
[17:15] <ozzmosis> Bodsda: dajhorn is wiser than I :)
[17:15] <richard_> help please?
[17:15] <jag__> vigo: Envy ? nevr heard of it ? what is it ?
[17:15]  * dajhorn bows humbly.
[17:15] <phillipsm> lolium did you see the ubottu up there?
[17:15] <richard_> anyone?
[17:16] <phillipsm> richard_ : ask the question dude...
[17:16] <Severity1> !envy
[17:16] <mobi-sheep> xukun: I googled and found the solution at your inconvenience -- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=187874
[17:16] <lolium> yes i did - is there an easier way because i have most of the work done at the moment just a couple of issues http://lolium.internizle.com/linux qbury.txt could it be done from what stage i am at?
[17:16] <richard_> Well compiz was pre installed in ubuntu 8.04 i played round with it but went to uninstall it cause it was slaggin down my system
[17:17] <richard_> I looked online on how to disable xorg
[17:17] <phillipsm> ur link is broken
[17:17] <vigo> jag_: it is a widget that works with those drivers, but here: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxNVIDIA.html and here: Envy does not work with any over or above Hardy, so scratch that
[17:17] <richard_> a guy on a messageboard said unclick gdm
[17:17] <phillipsm> ^^ @ lolium
[17:17] <mobi-sheep> xukun: Or simply write down the password.  It's not big deal.  :)
[17:17] <richard_> no my desktop won't load
[17:17] <jag__> ozzmosis: would it be good idee to download linux driver from Nvidia website? or would it be better to install from ubuntu repos ?
[17:18] <Pici> richard_: Because you disabled xorg.  Thats what displays your desktop environment.
[17:18] <lolium> i think somebody said my link was borken >   http://lolium.internizle.com/linux qbury.txt
[17:18] <jag__> vigo: i see . .
[17:18] <Severity1> gdm start
[17:18] <phillipsm> richard_ preferences > appearance > visual effects would have disabled compiz...what do you mean it won't load
[17:18] <magic_ninjai> !version
[17:18] <xukun> mobi-sheep, thanks but I have seen that post, but itś from 2006
[17:18] <phillipsm> lolium: im getting a 404 for that link
[17:18] <oshua86> is there any mouse config option in 9.04?
[17:18] <richard_> well it gives me a blank text screen
[17:19] <ozzmosis> jag__: probably ubuntu's, cos then you get automatic updates.  on the other hand it's a bit risky getting auto updates for your video driver, cos if it breaks you're stuck without X.  so I don't know.
[17:19] <richard_> asks for password but can get no further
[17:19] <lolium> erm okay then, works for me but ill sort it
[17:19] <Severity1> oshua86 probaly first thing you shud do is reconfigure xorg
[17:19] <phillipsm> can you pastebin the file?
[17:19] <phillipsm> @ lolium^^
[17:19] <richard_> ubuntu desktop will not load
[17:20] <mikeg3> I am trying to add the amd64 plugin for flash to firefox.  I am new to Ubuntu, but an old windows user.  I managed to untar the file, but don't know where the plugin should go.  Can anyone help?
[17:20] <mobi-sheep> xukun: Google harder. :)  http://lifehacker.com/software/ubuntu/stop-nm+applet-from-authenticating-with-the-keyring-276986.php
[17:20] <vigo> What Severity1 posted from bot explains envy very well, and what azzmosis stated is also correct.
[17:20] <phillipsm> richard_: i understand that but how won't it load...does the system hang before you get to login...is it trying to start in low graphics mode??? more specific plz
[17:20] <testfreak> any german here?
[17:20] <Pici> !de | testfreak
[17:20] <Severity1> remember envy = use at your own risk
[17:20] <jag__> richard: have u tried nautilus -q     then restart nautilus
[17:20] <richard_> I start the pc
[17:20] <richard_> get a black screen
[17:21] <testfreak> #ubuntu-de
[17:21] <testfreak> sry
[17:21] <phillipsm>  richard_ do you even see the manufacturer screen at the beginning?
[17:21] <jag__> Severity1: yes i seen that warning .  .lol
[17:21] <richard_> It says "No resume image doing normal boot"
[17:21] <richard_> yes i do
[17:21] <lolium> Great heres an outline of the system.
[17:21] <lolium>  
[17:21] <lolium> Linux Ubuntu 9.04
[17:21] <lolium> Joined active directory (used likewise open)
[17:21] <lolium> Used PAM module to set user home to home of AD user – ok
[17:21] <FloodBot1> lolium: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:21] <lolium> Changed PAM module so user does not need to include domain inlogon
[17:21] <xukun> mobi-sheep, I also did tha earlyer but did not work either
[17:21] <Severity1> wait for it richard_
[17:22] <richard_> wait?
[17:22] <mobi-sheep> xukun: Same password?
[17:22] <richard_> you mean it will load in time?
[17:22] <xukun> mobi-sheep, yes the same pw
[17:23] <jag__> richard: can u drop to shell ?? then maybe set runlevel to 1 ? do a x rescue?
[17:23] <richard_> don't understand what you said?
[17:23] <richard_> drop to shell?
[17:23] <phillipsm> richard_ can you boot to a live cd even...sounds like something more than x is messed up if there's nothing from the start
[17:23] <jag__> !php
[17:24] <richard_> yes i believe so
[17:24] <Severity1> ctrl alt f1 to f6
[17:24] <Pici> richard_: Do you have the ability to login on the terminal?
[17:24] <phillipsm> as in without a gui ^^
[17:24] <jag__> richard: did u maybe swop ur screen ?? lol I get black screen on older screens that cnt take res . .??
[17:24] <richard_> I tried re-installing ubuntu desktp but it says "ubuntu-desktop is not available
[17:24] <Severity1> richard_, do a ctrl alt f1
[17:24] <Pici> richard_: You don't need to reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[17:25] <richard_> tried that already
[17:25] <Pici> richard_: You need to re-enable gdm.  sudo update-rc.d gdm defaults    should enable it again.
[17:25] <richard_> it gave me reeboot options
[17:25] <jag__> ctrl+alt+F2
[17:25] <vigo> jag_: It is lspci for a PCI card, http://linux.about.com/od/commands/l/blcmdl8_lspci.htm
[17:25] <mobi-sheep> xukun: Did you have two different password at a point?  Well, I don't know the workaround but I found something else too -- http://magicrobotmonkey.blogspot.com/2008/02/chaging-your-password-on-gnome-keyring.html
[17:26] <jag__> vigo: thanks
[17:26] <konam> hi
[17:26] <richard_> ok. going to other pc to try back in a moment
[17:26] <christian_> ciao
[17:26] <Eternal> I have a question and i want to know what you think of the idea
[17:27] <Severity1> can i irc on the terminal?
[17:27] <Yankefish> hey im trying to edit grub bootloader keeps saying i dont have permission
[17:27] <Eternal> A linux distro that support windows and mac program without a program like wine I mean that supports them fully out of the box no applications needed to be added
[17:27] <mobi-sheep> !info irssi | Severity1
[17:27] <Severity1> sudo gedit
[17:27] <Eternal> What do you think
[17:27] <konam> i just installed the latest ubuntu on my laptop which has a intel video card, compiz works out of the box but the effects seem sluggish... this didn't happen with the previous version of ubuntu... does this has anything to do with any of intel card issues that i've been reading lately?
[17:27] <Eternal> ?
[17:28] <mobi-sheep> Yankefish: gksudo gedit -- DO NOT USE SUDO FOR GUI APPLICATIONS.
[17:28] <lars_bauer> howto get open office 3.0 on Intrepid Ibex
[17:28] <Severity1> any licensing issues Eternal ?
[17:28] <whatvn> Eternal: it's world dream
[17:28] <Severity1> mobi-sheep, thanks
[17:28] <richard_> didn't work
[17:28] <richard_>  it says
[17:28] <Yankefish> im a noobie what does not use sudo mean
[17:28] <Bram_P> hello, when trying to upgrade ubuntu 8.10 to 9.04 I get this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/177297/ what can I do about it?
[17:28] <lolium> Related to my question before > is there simple way from here?         lolium.internizle.com
[17:28] <Severity1> why not port windows and mac apps to linux
[17:29] <richard_> "links for /etc/init.dm/gdm already exist
[17:29] <Eternal> whatvn Im saying im thinking about making a linux distro like that im just thinking if its even possible
[17:29] <Severity1> richard_, do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[17:30] <Yankefish> Mobi-sheep what exactally do u mean with dont use sudo
[17:30] <Severity1> Eternal, maybe it is but theproblem is with the licenses
[17:30] <eurythmia> jonaskoelker, well, reinstalling jaunty did the trick ... now I'm doing a dist-upgrade to karmic ;)
[17:30] <richard_> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start    ?
[17:30] <Eternal> What would be the issue
[17:30] <jonaskoelker> eurythmia: gl & hf :)
[17:30] <richard_> just like that?
[17:30] <eurythmia> oh, I'm sure I will ;)
[17:30] <mobi-sheep> Yankefish: Somebody gave you a solution to use sudo for GUI applications which is incorrect.  sudo is for terminal.  gksudo is for GUI application.  Sudo --> The user “borrows” root powers to administer the system.
[17:31] <Yankefish> where do i get gksudo at
[17:31] <vigo> jag_: This may help also: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=615488 it shows how to update the pci listings.
[17:31] <jonaskoelker> eurythmia: with the latest few releases, I've always found upgrading ubuntu to bring me new and different bugs and not much in terms of features (except fixing some old bugs)... so do it at your own peril
[17:31] <richard_> o.k. trying now one moment
[17:31] <mobi-sheep> Yankefish: If you want to edit the file in the terminal, use sudo nano /the/path/to/file
[17:32] <mobi-sheep> Yankefish: Or you prefer GUI -- use gksudo gedit /the/path/to/file
[17:32] <eurythmia> jonaskoelker, I've never had problems with apt-get dist-upgrade, debian or otherwise ;)
[17:32] <Severity1> well sudo gedit works for me
[17:32] <teorias2000> yancho
[17:32] <teorias2000> yanchoo
[17:32] <jonaskoelker> eurythmia: good for you :)
[17:32] <Yankefish> sorry guys im a noob what exactally is sudo
[17:33] <Tyler> sudo lets you run root commands as a normal user
[17:33] <keewee> Hi. I have an EeePC 901 with 2 SSD drives. One is 4GB and the other 16GB. Currently have them separated (4GB for Ubuntu and 16GB as another drive). I want to know if there is a way to expand those 4GB and use part of the 16GB drive.
[17:33] <Pici> !sudo | Yankefish read this
[17:33] <doc_brown> how can i completely remove wine and all of its components?  I've tried sudo apt-get remove wine, but it's still there
[17:33] <whatvn> Eternal: I see, but why we need a distro like that?
[17:33] <vigo> Super Doer!
[17:33] <richard_> IT WORKED IT WORKED IT WORKED IT WORKED IT WORKED THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!!!
[17:33] <mobi-sheep> Severity1: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo
[17:33] <Tyler> doc_brown: autoremove
[17:34] <devil> hi guys......
[17:34] <doc_brown> Tyler, what's the command for that?
[17:34] <devil> sup.......
[17:34] <Severity1> richard_, what worked? my gdm start?
[17:34] <Tyler> doc_brown: if you want to remove all config files, --purge too; so 'sudo apt-get autoremove --purge wine'
[17:34] <lolium> lolium.internizle.com > could somebody please help me with this, Cheers
[17:34] <richard_> yes!!!!!
[17:34] <richard_> tHANK YOU!
[17:34] <doc_brown> Tyler, thanks
[17:34] <Severity1> no prob
[17:34] <Tyler> np
[17:34] <Yankefish> so i boot ubunto then go to terminal and type gksudo gedit
[17:34] <richard_> I was sweatin bullets for a moment and my wife was lookin at me like she was pissed!
[17:35] <ikonia> richard_: well, all sorted, so lets move on
[17:35] <Tyler> Yankefish: if you're going into a terminal, sudo gedit will work fine
[17:35] <Eternal> whatvn because people who use linux love it but there isnt alot of support out there for windows based programs and mac based programs that alot of people love like Photoshop ect.... (With out having to use a virtual machine or Wine).  But I was thinking to get people more into linux why not have a distro that support every os's program which woud be linux , Windows and Mac
[17:35] <doc_brown> richard_, i just got here what happened?
[17:35] <Pici> Tyler, Yankefish: Please use gksudo when starting graphical applications such as gedit.
[17:35] <richard_> Ahh I took some bad advice for a guy and accidentally disabled gdm
[17:35] <Yankefish> is there an easier way like notepad or somethng im a noob im trying to edit ther bootloader entries so i can rename them
[17:35] <Tyler> Pici: ah, okay, I didn't know that was the recommended thing to do
[17:35] <richard_> but it's workin now thanks everybody later
[17:36] <doc_brown> Pici, why gksudo?
[17:36] <Tyler> Yankefish: gedit is like notepad
[17:36] <Severity1> mobi-sheep, thanks for that now i see the difference
[17:36] <cannie> hellow im new to ubuntu
[17:36] <mobi-sheep> Yankefish: Run gksudo gedit /the/path/to/file in the terminal.  It'll run the GUI Text Editor for you.
[17:36] <vigo> Eternal: That is kinda off-topic. this is a support #channel
[17:36] <Yankefish> ohh i see
[17:36] <keewee> Hi. I need some help with my EeePC. It has 2 SSD drives, one is 4GB and the other 16GB. The 4GB one has Ubuntu installed, and the 16GB one has an 8GB NTFS partition with music, etc. I want to know if there is a way to "expand" the 4GB SSD using the free space in the 16GB one. Something like RAID 0. Just need more space on it.
[17:36] <Eternal> vigo Sorry I just wanted to get some people opinion
[17:36] <Pici> !gksudo | doc_brown take a look
[17:37] <mobi-sheep> Severity1: I'm glad you learned something new. :)
[17:37] <whatvn> Eternal: then why we don't try to make gimp better (like photoshop) others too? When we run Windows apps on Linux, Linux is not Linux anymore. I think
[17:37] <Severity1> yep
[17:37] <vigo> Eternal: Not a problem, just /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:37] <Yankefish> mobi check ur pm
[17:37] <Severity1> there was actually a difference!
[17:37] <Eternal> vigo ok thx I will do that
[17:37] <doc_brown> Tyler, i used autoremove but it's still in my menu along with all the programs
[17:38] <whatvn> Eternal: I myself didn't use wine
[17:38] <doc_brown> its still in my alt+f1
[17:38] <psycoborg> hmm.
[17:38] <Tyler> doc_brown: did it indeed remove it?
[17:38] <Severity1> linux willbe winux or minux
[17:38] <jag__> can a windows game run on linux ? without use of WINE ?
[17:38] <doc_brown> Tyler, yes it freed 5644 kb
[17:39] <psycoborg> there are things i can do with ubuntu that i cant do with kubuntu like my cube effects..
[17:39] <whatvn> jag__: use Windows
[17:39] <Tyler> you can remove it from the menu if it didn't do that
[17:39] <psycoborg> but kubuntu looks way nicer
[17:39] <psycoborg> lol
[17:39] <Tyler> but you might just need to log out and back in again for the menu to change
[17:39] <Tyler> psycoborg: the cube effects work in kubuntu too!
[17:39] <doc_brown> ctrl alt bkspc?
[17:39] <briansrad81> hey guys.  can anyone help me install ubuntu on my mac with the purpose of dual booting?  pvt me please!
[17:39] <jag__> whatvn: games is the only reason i still dual boot to win . .
[17:40] <keewee> Hi. I need some help with my EeePC. It has 2 SSD drives, one is 4GB and the other 16GB. The 4GB one has Ubuntu installed, and the 16GB one has an 8GB NTFS partition with music, etc. I want to know if there is a way to "expand" the 4GB SSD using the free space in the 16GB one. Something like RAID 0. Just need more space on it. ¿Can anyone help me?
[17:40] <Tyler> doc_brown: well, it's better to log out with system -> log out
[17:40] <keewee> oops used the ¿ :P
[17:40] <whatvn> jag__: play game for ubuntu
[17:40] <psycoborg> mine is setup . but the ctrl +alt arrow keys dont work.
[17:40] <Tyler> psycoborg: did you set them as the shortcut for changing desktops?
[17:40] <jag__> go figure
[17:40] <ubuntunewb> hi there
[17:41] <ubuntunewb> so I'm trying to help my friend install ubuntu
[17:41] <psycoborg> errr????
[17:41] <psycoborg> umm.
[17:41] <vigo> keewee: Look at Grub and stuff, one moment, there is an 'expander'
[17:41] <psycoborg> oopops.
[17:41] <ubuntunewb> and the install wizard had an import option
[17:41] <doc_brown> Tyler, i smell a reinstall coming on
[17:41] <psycoborg> sorry.
[17:41] <FloodBot1> psycoborg: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:41] <doc_brown> its still there
[17:41] <ubuntunewb> where are his files from windows copied to?
[17:41] <ubuntunewb> can't find them
[17:41] <richard> o.k. back again now i got a new problem
[17:41] <lolium> Hello, i need help on my ubuntu and access files on the windows server > more info at (http://lolium.internizle.com) if helped much appreciated
[17:41] <Guest35781> I get the ubuntu login screen
[17:42] <doc_brown> wine won't go away
[17:42] <ubuntunewb> does anybody know where the ubuntu import wizard copy files to (from windows)?
[17:42] <Guest35781> Type in password and it boots up my desktop but crashes just before all items are loaded
[17:42] <Yankefish> 1 more guys how do i make kde desktop autologin
[17:42] <jag__> LAMP: I ran this cmnd as per forum . .   sudo tasksel install lamp-server - it is just sitting on 0% does it take long ?
[17:43] <Dulak> Guest35781: running under parallels by chance?
[17:43] <michae1> has anyone had any issues with juanty i386 system clock racing on an athlon64
[17:43] <Tyler> psycoborg: in System Settings (in kubuntu), under Keyboard and Mouse -> Global Shortcuts, you can change the setting to Switch to Desktop Left (or something like that)
[17:43] <Guest35781> what does that mean?
[17:43] <briansrad81> ok i'll ask again......can someone guide me into installing ubuntu as a dual boot with os x?
[17:43] <bassliner> Yankefish: your desktop manager (kdm probaby) should have an option for automatically loggin in a user
[17:43] <Guest35781> parrelles?
[17:43]  * doc_brown reinstalls ubuntu because wine won't go away
[17:43] <vigo> keewee: I found one, still looking: http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/wiki/index.php/Quick_HOWTO_:_Ch27_:_Expanding_Disk_Capacity
[17:43] <bassliner> Yankefish: if not you'd need a little harder practice to do that
[17:43] <Dulak> Guest35781: it's a virtual machine program, if you don't know you aren't running it
[17:43] <Tyler> doc_brown: lol, don't do that!
[17:43]  * Dr_Willis just removes wine
[17:43] <Dr_Willis> windows thinking at its finest!
[17:44] <Tyler> doc_brown: try running wine from a terminal
[17:44] <Guest35781> no full install ubuntu 8.04
[17:44] <keewee> vigo: thanks :)
[17:44] <doc_brown> Dr_Willis, lol
[17:44] <bassliner> lol
[17:44] <Guest35781> crashes back to my login screen
[17:44] <doc_brown> Tyler, it wont run
[17:44] <doc_brown> program is not installed
[17:44] <Burlynn> briansrad81: on what machine
[17:44] <Guest35781> i get startup music and everything
[17:44] <doc_brown> but its in my menu]
[17:45] <jag__> trying to get LAMP running,  I ran this cmnd as per forum . .   sudo tasksel install lamp-server - it is just sitting on 0% does it take long ?
[17:45] <Guest35781> just reinstalled gdm
[17:45] <briansrad81> burlynn - macbook
[17:45] <Dr_Willis> doc_brown:  the wine menui items are defined by some directory/files in the users home dir.
[17:45] <Dr_Willis> doc_brown:  those are easoially removed once found
[17:46] <bo7amny> i notes that ubuntu 9.04 have no ive cd , right?
[17:46] <Dr_Willis> apt-get remove wine will NOT remove those entries.. the apt system will not alter USERS config files
[17:46] <doc_brown> Dr_Willis, all i can find in my home dir are pictures of heidi montag
[17:46] <richard> Hello
[17:46] <doc_brown> Dr_Willis, maybe hidden files ?
[17:46] <Burlynn> briansrad81: have you read the wiki? very informative
[17:47] <Guest83558> my ubuntu is crashing after just loging in
[17:48] <Tyler> doc_brown: check ~/.local/share/applications/ and see if there are any wine menu entries in there
[17:48] <ia2009> i'm using wubi to install ubuntu 9.04, but it is downloading it from the internet
[17:48] <ia2009> even thought it is present on my hard disk
[17:49] <Burlynn> briansrad81: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages is pretty much a complete walkthrough for running ubuntu on a mac
[17:49] <parapan> need help installing a program .....KCatalog is the name ....help said ...run in the folder command kcatalogsetup.sh ...i give that ....answer is command not found :(
[17:49] <doc_brown> Tyler, thanks i pointed terminal to that directory and "dir" says wine
[17:49] <doc_brown> Tyler, so sudo rm wine?
[17:49] <Dr_Willis> doc_brown:  most config files are in various .WHATEVER dirs/files
[17:50] <Burlynn> parapan: try ./kcatalogsetup.sh
[17:50] <Dr_Willis> the .wine directory is NOT where the menu items are comming from. Look for some WHatever.desktop files in the various .config or some other dirs
[17:50] <parapan> burlynn > permission denied
[17:50] <doc_brown> Dr_Willis, sory... whatever.desktop?
[17:51] <Tyler> doc_brown: you don't need to sudo rm it, plain rm should be enough
[17:51] <Burlynn> parapan: run it with sudo
[17:51] <Tyler> also, ls is better than dir
[17:51] <Dr_Willis> doc_brown:  every menu item is defined by a WHATEVER.desktop file
[17:51] <Dr_Willis> doc_brown:  find those files.. remove them and they will vaniush from the gnom,e menus
[17:52] <vigo> keewee: Did it come with Ubuntu installed?
[17:53] <parapan> burlynn > doesnt work same errors ...
[17:53] <richard> Richard
[17:53] <Burlynn> para try sudo sh ./kcatalogsetup.sh .. if that doesnt work something else is going on
[17:53] <richard> hello
[17:53] <richard> got a problem
[17:54] <Guest37799> just reinstalled gdm but now pc crashes after login
[17:54] <doc_brown> Tyler, Dr_Willis this solution solved my problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224541
[17:54] <doc_brown> Tyler, Dr_Willis thanks for your help
[17:54] <reddbull> Where can I specify the mouse sensitivity for my usb mouse? I've tried both the GUI application that comes with gnome, using xset (which works, but I'm already at xset 1 1 and it's too fast) and xorg.conf ("Resolution" setting).
[17:54] <parapan> burlynn > damn you're good ;)
[17:55] <Tyler> doc_brown: good that you got it figured out
[17:55] <Burlynn> parapan: hah not quite just been there before
[17:55] <livingdaylight> coz_: i'm just shouting about it in #ubuntu-uk someone is telling me they're sure that compiz has a gesturing plugin
[17:56] <livingdaylight> coz_: surely, it can't be as good?
[17:56] <coz_> livingdaylight,  no it doesnt except for rotating to a different  viewport
[17:56] <Dre4m> Good evening all, Just wondered if someone or some people would be kind enough to tell me what the most used and respected DVD player for ubuntu is? . . . basically the "best one" but I understand I'm not supposed to ask that kind of thing. Thanks in advanced
[17:56] <coz_> livingdaylight,  not at all for system wide gestrures
[17:56] <iceD[R]> Good evening all, I have a problem with my ubuntu 8.04!
[17:56] <sebsebseb> hi
[17:56] <coz_> livingdaylight,  with easystroke you can also control compiz
[17:56] <mobi-sheep> Dre4m: VLC.  I use it for everything.
[17:56] <iceD[R]> The mirrors are broken.
[17:56] <Dre4m> do you think that is the most used?
[17:57] <swtaarrs> is there a way to check is an ext4 partition has extents enabled?  I'm not talking about mount options in /etc/fstab or the output of mount but the partition itself, the options set with 'tune2fs -O ...'
[17:57] <timater123> is there any way to revert back your latest updates? i added the pre-release updates repository and updated my system. but it went unstable so i want to revert back my updates
[17:57] <blas> algun que habla español
[17:57] <reddbull> Dre4m: I don't know, but I've used VLC
[17:57] <Guest37799> hello everybody
[17:57] <Dre4m> can it play dvds? with menus? as I rememebr when i tired linux before none of them  could?
[17:57] <Guest37799> can anyone help me?
[17:57] <vigo> keewee: gparted is what I think you need to use, or can use, choice is a good thing.
[17:57] <mobi-sheep> Dre4m: I can't speak for others but I'm saying it worked great.  What are you expecting?  A linux port of PowerDVD?
[17:57] <livingdaylight> coz_: i've thrown the ball back in his court with interest ^^
[17:58] <Dre4m> ye that kinda thing
[17:58] <Dre4m> so vlc is the way forward?
[17:58] <pegon> I use gnome-screensaver...and when I come back I click on the screen and the screensaver freezes but doesn't bring up the lock screen...I have to hit escape a few times to get it to prompt me for a password..anyone got any suggestion
[17:58] <Burlynn> ubuntu 8.10 new install on a laptop intel 945 chipset, normal visual effects, DarkRoom theme option, all my popup notifications are two colors, is this normal? the background is half tan half grey, does not look right
[17:58] <Dr_Willis> i perfer the linux dvd players to POWERDVD.. i hate powerdvd
[17:58] <Dr_Willis> :)
[17:58] <iamtechno> Does anyone know how to get lspci to correctly report the size of my video card?
[17:58] <Dr_Willis> i can skip the adverts at the start of dvds with linux
[17:58] <Dre4m> DR_willis may I ask what you use?
[17:58] <mobi-sheep> Dre4m: Yes.  VLC work wonders. :)
[17:58] <keewee> vigo: I have gparted installed. and I used it for partitioning, etc. But do you know how would I use it to merge the drives?
[17:58] <Dr_Willis> Dre4m:  vlc or mplayer.. or just Rip the dvd to  avi..
[17:58] <iamtechno> If someone posted a response, my net was down.
[17:58] <dan2k> vlc ftw
[17:58] <Dre4m> mobi-sheep: Thank you very much for your time.
[17:59] <Dr_Willis> wife uses vlc under windows even
[17:59] <Dre4m> Dr_Willis: Thank you for your time too.
[17:59] <Dre4m> Thanks so much
[17:59] <richard> Richard
[17:59] <reddbull> Dre4m: Yea, it should. I've only used it on Windows though
[17:59] <gymophett> My make files aren't working in 8.04, can anyone help me?!
[17:59] <richard> hello can anyone help me?
[17:59] <iamtechno> If someone posted a response, my net was down.
[17:59] <Dre4m> oh one more thing can it handle dvd MENUS?
[17:59] <dan2k> i'm pretty stuck people. I have a jaunty box which i'm using, and i changed the permissions everything on the linux install so that everyone can read & write
[17:59] <iceD[R]> Mirros broken! Someone know what can be?
[17:59] <dan2k> now it doesn't boot
[17:59] <Dr_Willis> Dre4m:  they work fine for me
[17:59] <parapan> BURLYNN >just an additional one ....why SH between sudo and the script ???
[17:59] <dan2k> and i get an initramfs
[17:59] <Dre4m> great
[17:59] <reddbull> Dre4m: yea
[17:59] <iamtechno> gymophett: Could you be more specific
[17:59] <reddbull> it can handle menus
[17:59] <Dre4m> Thanks so much Ubuntu community! have a great evening
[17:59] <iamtechno> Does anyone know how to get lspci to correctly report the size of my video card?
[18:00] <timater123> hello can anyone help?
[18:00] <reddbull> Have a nice evening as well!
[18:00] <lolium> hello, could somebody help me please
[18:00] <Guest90159> anyone?
[18:00] <iamtechno> timater123, whats up?
[18:00] <Dr_Willis> !ask
[18:00] <darthanubis> !ask | timater123
[18:00] <Pici> iceD[R]: Use a different mirror then.
[18:00] <vigo> keewee: maybe here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1163394&highlight=expand+drive or here. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1161589&highlight=merge+hard+drive, is a FDISK thing , sometimes.
[18:00] <gymophett> iamtechno: when I go into the terminal and try to install a package, and I take "sudo make" it says there is no makefile. But I can look at the makefile with my own two eyes.
[18:00] <Sir-Integra> Hey, i'm trying to start unreal tournament 2004 on linux, but i'm getting from my monitor, display mode not support 1280x1024 60Hz
[18:00] <nicklas_> yo
[18:00] <Sir-Integra> although, that's what i'm running on my desktop.
[18:01] <Dre4m> Is it safe to use things like IRC while installing programs?
[18:01] <Burlynn> parapan: sh is the actual program running the kcatalogsetup.sh 'script', though you can make the script executable by itself which is why i had you try without the sh at first
[18:01] <mobi-sheep> Dr_Willis: I can't remember last time I used a DVD. :X
[18:01] <timater123> iamtechno: i added ubuntu pre-release updates repository and updated my system. now i have disabled the repository and want to revert back my updates
[18:01] <Dr_Willis> Dre4m:  why wouldent it be safe? :)
[18:01] <iceD[R]> Pici, where to find other mirrors?
[18:01] <Pici> Dre4m: Yes, you can continue using all programs when installing things.
[18:01] <Sir-Integra> and i've tried editing the settings in /home/jake/.ut2004/System
[18:01] <dan2k> i'm pretty stuck people. I have a jaunty box which i'm using, and i changed the permissions everything on the linux install so that everyone can read & write, now the box doesn't boot, but goes into this initramfs console. not cool. i guess i shouldn't have changed the permissions?
[18:01] <Sir-Integra> no avail.
[18:01] <lolium> i have a problem accessing files on windows domain from linux because of password which users cant type in becuase they dont have access to the knowledge of that password what i would like help with is on this webpage http://lolium.internizle.com could somebody please help
[18:01] <reddbull> Dre4m, yes it shouldn't have anything to say. The packages are already installed that are needed for X-Chat etc
[18:01] <Dre4m> Pici: thanks so much
[18:01] <Dre4m> thank you
[18:01] <Dr_Willis> Dre4m:  its proberly not a good idea to update firefox, while using firefox.. :)
[18:02] <reddbull> Yea :P
[18:02] <iamtechno> gymophett, First off if you are trying to install a package, why are you using sudo make, you should use sudo apt-get install <packagename>
[18:02] <Dre4m> hahaha I did that earlyer lol
[18:02] <Guest90159> o.k. I had problems login into ubuntu I accidentally deactivated gdm Some one told me how to reenable it and it worked. Now I can login but pc crashes before loading
[18:02] <parapan> burlynn > got -it ...but good to remember anyway
[18:02] <Dre4m> whole thing was ****ed im telling you
[18:02] <Dre4m> anyway thanks for the warning cheers!
[18:02] <Dre4m> :)
[18:02] <TheDJACR> Is there n app I can use to call someone via bluetooth cellphone?
[18:02] <Pici> iceD[R]: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[18:02] <reddbull> Guest90159: You could try ctrl-alt-backspace and see if that works, or if that doesn't work try: "sudo gdm start"
[18:03] <FrateTak> good evening! (... here in Italy ... )
[18:03] <timater123> is there any way to revert back your latest updates? i added the pre-release updates repository and updated my system. but it went unstable so i want to revert back my updates
[18:03] <Guest90159> i got gdm started
[18:03] <gymophett> iamtechno: it is a tar.gz i downloaded online..
[18:03] <iceD[R]> Pici, I will try! Thanks!
[18:03] <modmadmike> I have a HUGE problem- I can't reboot because synaptic broke my menu.lst and I know how to set up a menu.lst for a normal linux setup but / is incrypted
[18:03] <iamtechno> timater123, Try going under software sources and unchecking pre-release and checking updates
[18:03] <Guest90159> i can try again
[18:03] <reddbull> Guest90159: ok
[18:03] <mroc> my computer is running exceptionally slow, and i don't know why.  it had been running fast for quite a while, but now even typing gives a huge lag..i have to sit and wait for the cursor to catch up.  how do i got about fixing this problem?  any help is appreciated.
[18:03] <modmadmike> encrypted**
[18:03] <reddbull> Guest90159: How does it crash? Any error messages?
[18:04] <dan2k> i'm pretty stuck people. I have a jaunty box which i'm using, and i changed the permissions everything on the linux install so that everyone can read & write, now the box doesn't boot, but goes into this initramfs console. not cool. i guess i shouldn't have changed the permissions?
[18:04] <coreyman> How do I remove a folder from the places menu?
[18:04] <whatvn> mroc: use top to find what makes your computer slow
[18:04] <modmadmike> oh and the menu.lst is empty except for the comments
[18:04] <Dre4m> christ my computer is fast since I put ubuntu 9.04 on
[18:05] <dan2k> anyone?
[18:05] <gymophett> Dre4m: 8.04 is just as fast as 9.04 on mine.
[18:05] <dan2k> !
[18:05] <modmadmike> anyone...
[18:05] <darthanubis> !anyone | modmadmike
[18:05] <Guest90159> ok just trried ctrl-alt backspace and logged in
[18:05] <whatvn> dan2k: what you meant "everything"?
[18:06] <whatvn> dan2k: what command did you use?
[18:06] <reddbull> Guest90159: Did it work?
[18:06] <mroc> whatvn: top shows firefox and xorg as the top two, both taking between 15-30% CPU, and firefox is just open in the background.
[18:06] <Guest90159> it says I need at-spi assistance but the package is not installed
[18:06] <TheDJACR> Bluetooth phonecalls, anybody?
[18:06] <Dulak> coreyman: if you open say home folder from places, on the right hand side it should list all the places, you can right-click and select remove there
[18:07] <Guest90159> still crashed
[18:07] <modmadmike> I have a HUGE problem- I can't reboot because synaptic broke my menu.lst and I know how to set up a menu.lst for a normal linux setup but / is encrypted (i posted this before darthanubis!!!!!!)
[18:07] <iceD[R]> an error message shown here "Reading package lists ... Error!" and "E: Problem with MergeList / var/lib/apt/lists/br.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hardy_universe_binary-i386_Packages"
[18:07] <whatvn> mroc: top says how much cpu used?
[18:07] <sebsebseb> dan2k: maybe you messed up the install some how
[18:07] <baobao>  TheDJACR what about it
[18:07] <sebsebseb> dan2k: ,but you should be able to access the partiton on the Live CD, and be able to get hold of any data
[18:07] <timater123> iamtechno: it doesn't show any updates, may be because pre-release packages were more higher version. but i want to downgrade those packages
[18:07] <sebsebseb> dan2k: sounds a bit odd though changing permissions and then that issue
[18:07] <dan2k> whatvn i did "gksudo nautilus" and then selected everything in filesystem, right-clicked, clicked on permissions, and clicked on group - root, and changed it from read only to read & write
[18:07] <darthanubis> modmadmike, your screwed because you did not plan ahead wisely.
[18:08] <sebsebseb> dan2k: you shoudn't have done that
[18:08] <dan2k> (please don't flame - i know that was stupid)
[18:08] <iceD[R]> Anyone can help?
[18:08] <reddbull> Guest90159: maybe you could try logging into terminal mode and redownload ubuntu (gnome) or kubuntu
[18:08] <sebsebseb> dan2k: very stupid
[18:08] <dan2k> i realised just after i clicked
[18:08] <darthanubis> Encrypt / for what?
[18:08] <reddbull> and just switch the window manager
[18:08] <mbrannock> dan2k: yeah, that may not have been the best plan
[18:08] <sebsebseb> dan2k: security such as root/sudo is there for a reason
[18:08] <_UsUrPeR_> hey guys. I'm having some strange problems with brctl and network interfaces
[18:08] <_UsUrPeR_> check this out: http://pastebin.com/m19753192
[18:08] <mroc> whatvn: keeps fluctuating, 30-60%
[18:08] <modmadmike> darthanubis: yea sure... I cant just rebuild the menu.lst?
[18:08] <darthanubis> should have a least had /boot partition separate
[18:08] <sebsebseb> dan2k: I think  get hold of data, and re install
[18:08] <dan2k> sebsebseb yeah... and i've done it before on an etc folder on another install
[18:08] <mbrannock> dan2k: I'm not sure that there's much you can do now...
[18:08] <darthanubis> modmadmike, how if it is encrypted?
[18:08] <_UsUrPeR_> I guess I can't have two bridges set up in /etc/network/interfaces
[18:09] <reddbull> Guest90159: and use sudo apt-get install to download that at-spi package
[18:09] <TheDJACR> modmadmike: ... menu.lst isn't on an encrypted partition
[18:09] <_UsUrPeR_> though with brctl, it's possible, and required.
[18:09] <TheDJACR> Never
[18:09] <iam_techno> timater123, did you try sudo apt-get update && apt-get autoremove ?
[18:09] <_UsUrPeR_> can anyone suggest a better way of doing this for me?
[18:09] <dan2k> mbrannock NO NO please don't say that - it's a home server i've been configuring for days
[18:09] <pegon> I use gnome-screensaver...and when I come back I click on the screen and the screensaver freezes but doesn't bring up the lock screen...I have to hit escape a few times to get it to prompt me for a password..anyone got any suggestion
[18:09] <sebsebseb> dan2k: well even more stupid then
[18:09] <mroc> whatvn: when i type anything in kile, xorg goes way above 50% cpu usage.  didn't have this problem before, and i haven't changed anything since yesterday when all was working nicely.
[18:09] <sebsebseb> dan2k: first rule of  Linux, never run  it as root all the time
[18:09] <dan2k> sebsebseb well at least i won't do it again :D
[18:09] <Guest90159> now it says "greeter application application missing attempting to use a different one" then it crashes
[18:09] <TheDJACR> pegon: Report a bug, mine used to do that too.
[18:09] <iam_techno> gymophett, Did you configure the source yet
[18:09] <sebsebseb> dan2k: and that's basicaly what you did, by doing what you did
[18:10] <SonicComKid> Hi all, before I pester the forums. Does anyone here know how to repair SAMBA?  I can't start it, stop it, restart it, uninstall it, reinstall it, or pkill it without my server freezing
[18:10] <sebsebseb> dan2k: you made it like WIndows, admin account for everything
[18:10] <sebsebseb> dan2k: well pretty much
[18:10] <timater123> iam_techno: ok let me try this
[18:10] <dan2k> sebsebseb so now what - can i chown them back to root somehow?
[18:10] <Guest90159> how do i log into terminal mode?
[18:10] <whatvn> mroc: free -m and see what happens?
[18:10] <dan2k> sebsebseb what IS initramfs?
[18:10] <reddbull> Guest90159: Do you get the login window?
[18:10] <sebsebseb> dan2k: maybe can change permissions back to root,  or   the file system has gone bad yeah, well I guess that's what happended since yoru error
[18:10] <hatter243> _UsUrPeR_, change "auto lo" to "auto lo eth1 kvmbr0" and remove all those other autos to start
[18:10] <iam_techno> timater123,  if autoremove removes packages, then you've probably "downgraded"
[18:10] <Guest90159> yes
[18:11] <harushimo> hey is free financial analysis software for linux
[18:11] <_UsUrPeR_> hatter243: ok, I'll give that a shot. thanks
[18:11] <whatvn> mroc: sorry, I said to mroc
[18:11] <harushimo> i mean similar to Nasdaq market relay
[18:11] <dan2k> sebsebseb fuck.
[18:11] <reddbull> Guest90159: Then you can change the window manager at the bottom left
[18:11] <SonicComKid> Guest90159, on the login screen press Ctrl and F1 through F6 for various terminals
[18:11] <Guest90159> than what?
[18:11] <modmadmike> TheDJACR: yea duh but my / is and usualy the config for a menu.lst is different for an encrypted / partition
[18:11] <Bllasae> why do i need to remove third party things when i upgrade?
[18:11] <sebsebseb> dan2k: I am not exactly sure, but  intramfs messages come up when people can't boot sometimes
[18:11] <Pici> dan2k: Please mind your language here.
[18:11] <Guest90159> ok
[18:11] <hatter243> _UsUrPeR_, then insure that /etc/network/interfaces is -rw-r--r-- root root
[18:11] <Guest90159> which one to use?
[18:11] <harushimo> where can I get linux trade for hardy heron
[18:11] <reddbull> Guest90159: yea, or that. much simpler to just press ctrl-alt-f6 for example
[18:11] <hatter243> s/insure/ensure
[18:12] <sebsebseb> !root > dan2k
[18:12] <sebsebseb> !sudo > dan2k
[18:12] <Guest90159> o.k going to other pc now
[18:12] <_UsUrPeR_> hatter243: will this maintain my bridge ports properly?
[18:12] <Pici> harushimo: What do you mean by 'trade'?
[18:12] <dan2k> @pici my bad - wasn't aware of any censoring rules
[18:12] <wOPr> hello :)
[18:12] <harushimo> its a software
[18:12] <Pici> !ohmy
[18:12] <sebsebseb> !sudo > dan2k
[18:12] <hatter243> _UsUrPeR_, I'm not sure about that, but I think step one will be getting rid of the "Can't read interfaces file" error message
[18:12] <SonicComKid> Guest90159, all 6 terminals are identical. Only purpose of why so many is so you can hop back and forth and do differant things on each one
[18:12] <timater123> iam_techno: it has selected to remove 6 packages, including linux-headers-2.6.28-11-generic
[18:12] <wOPr> had anyone her ever used DARKICE please? I need urgent help!!
[18:12] <whatvn> mroc: free -m and tell me what happens?
[18:12] <harushimo> apparently its available fro hardy heron
[18:12] <dan2k> @sebsebseb hahaha
[18:12] <mroc> whatvn: 11 free, 497 total.  ah, well...clearly, that's a problem.  never had that much used before.
[18:13] <Pici> harushimo: I'm not familiar with that package.
[18:13] <sebsebseb> !noroot > dan2k
[18:13] <harushimo> I thought it was on the apt-get
[18:13] <harushimo> hmmm...
[18:13] <harushimo> okay
[18:13] <SonicComKid> Guest90159, imagion each one is like a command prompt window in windows. It's generally the same idea
[18:13] <sebsebseb> !noroot > dan2k
[18:13] <coreyman> Anyone know why firefox wont connect to my server at localhost unless im online but konquerer will. Firefox tells me it is in offline mode.
[18:13] <byerley> Hi, I'm trying to install unbound on a Ubuntu 8.04.2 box. It doesn't seem to be in the apt-get repositories. I tried install from source, but when I run it I get "[1242925358] unbound[14630:0] fatal error: user 'unbound' does not exist." I'm reluctant to just add a user manually. Any suggestions?
[18:13] <pegon> TheDJACR, did you find a way to fix it or any suggestions?
[18:13] <darthanubis> http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ubuntu-linux-guide,2293.html
[18:13] <dan2k> !igetit >sebsebseb
[18:13] <_UsUrPeR_> hatter243: the "can't read interfaces" error was because I was trying to apply two ports to one bridge I think. I removed the bridge_ports vnet0 line, and it started fine
[18:13] <wOPr> had anyone her ever used DARKICE please? I need urgent help!!
[18:13] <mroc> whatvn: oh...wait, i had all these same things running yesterday, but i did suspend and resume once since then.  could that be adding to the problem?
[18:13] <dan2k> :P
[18:13] <ejv> byerley: add a user manually
[18:13] <sebsebseb> dan2k: so basicaly what you done is  made yourself root for the whole file system, but in a stupid way also
[18:14] <darthanubis> For all the new windows users, please read
[18:14] <coreyman> hi sebsebseb
[18:14] <sebsebseb> coreyman: hi
[18:14] <helper> hello brothers. what is the command to send mail quickly i want to put it in my script i try mail kad@kad test then i require a subject is there any command to put mail then email then subject in one command! thanks
[18:14] <SonicComKid> Guest90159, if you need to say anything else to me, say my name at the beginning of the line or PM me. It's hard to find anything you say in the sea of other text
[18:14] <Bieleke> Goodevening guys
[18:14] <sebsebseb> dan2k: you can probably change the permissions back to root on the Live CD, but  may stil get the  intramfs error
[18:14] <whatvn> mroc: you have not much ram, suspend is not the right way
[18:14] <hatter243> _UsUrPeR_, oh, well, the man page for interfaces says to have the autos all on one line. After that, try this guy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConnectionBridge
[18:14] <byerley> ejv: have you done the install before?
[18:14] <whatvn> mroc: did you set swap before?
[18:14] <Bieleke> i'm planning downloading ubuntu, but is it wise to install 64-bit version ?
[18:14] <unicom> hello - anybody know how to fix that sound output is only on one box? on my external clinch on my notebook the sound only appears right side - the left box is not working (its working on vista though) - samsung r70
[18:15] <connex> hi, can someone tell me what's wrong with ubuntu's run levels?
[18:15] <sebsebseb> Bieleke: have you got a 64bit proccessor? and how much RAM do you have?
[18:15] <coreyman> Anyone know why firefox wont connect to my server at localhost unless im online but konquerer will. Firefox tells me it is in offline mode.
[18:15] <Sir-Integra> anyone here got ut2004 on their system?
[18:15] <Bieleke> sebastien, yeah dual 2 core, and in all my pc's 2 gig ram
[18:15] <Sir-Integra> For some reason it's starting itself at 1280x1024 60hz resolution
[18:15] <Sir-Integra> and my monitor is saying it doesn't support it
[18:15] <SonicComKid> Bieleke, I rather like the 64-bit version. As long a you have a 64-bit CPU you'll be fine. I do warn you that *some* software is a tad more difficult to install in 64-bit ubuntu than 32-bit. However I found installing wine (just for it's libarires) fixes most issues with 64-bit
[18:15] <sebsebseb> Bieleke: they say  need at least 4GB RAM for 64bit or won't really get any advantage
[18:16] <flintwingel> coreyman: check the file menu... is the offline mode box checked?
[18:16] <connex> hi, can someone tell me what's wrong with ubuntu's run levels?
[18:16] <Bieleke> sebsebseb, yeah dual 2 core, and in all my pc's 2 gig ram
[18:16] <unicom> please anybody know how to fix that sound output is only on one box? on my external clinch on my notebook the sound only appears right side - the left box is not working (its working on vista though) - samsung r70, ubuntu 8.10
[18:16] <reddbull> Sir-Integra: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=5425
[18:16] <coreyman> Sir-Integra /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:16] <modmadmike> I can't reboot because synaptic broke my menu.lst and I don't know how to set up a menu.lst for a system which has / encrypted!
[18:16] <coreyman> flintwingel it wont check or uncheck
[18:16] <dan2k> !help
[18:16] <sebsebseb> !install > dan2k
[18:16] <Sir-Integra> reddbull, why use wine when it was ported for Linux?
[18:16] <whatvn> connex: you must tell us exactly what happen
[18:16] <josteint> hi. i have kubuntu 9.04 installed. at random the computer freezes. num lock is dead, ctrl+f1 does not respond. i have to reboot. how do I track the bug?!
[18:16] <reddbull> oh lol
[18:16] <reddbull> soryr
[18:16] <reddbull> sorry*
[18:16] <Bieleke> sebsebseb, thanks, then i go for 32-bit cause i also want to run xp virtually on ubuntu for the programs that are not runnable on ubuntu and which i really need
[18:17] <Sir-Integra> coreyman, why would it have anything to do with my xorg.conf?
[18:17] <richard_> didn't work but i can access failsafe treminal
[18:17] <sebsebseb> !usb > dan2k
[18:17] <Nana> hi
[18:17] <Nana> i need help on ubuntu,
[18:17] <ejv> byerley: what is 8.04? feisty?
[18:17] <Nana> can some one help me ?
[18:17] <sebsebseb> !usb > dan2k
[18:17] <coreyman> Sir-Integra sorry I thought you said your system was starting in that resolution. Not UT
[18:17] <nicklas_> hej igen
[18:17] <ejv> byerley: hardy?
[18:17] <sebsebseb> Bieleke: well 64bit would be ok
[18:17] <Wicks> ubuntuers: is it possible to change the boot menu (grub) when booting froma  liveusb session, when made from the -usb-creator tool?
[18:17] <Nana> i useing ubuntu 9.04
[18:17] <byerley> ejv: hardy yes
[18:17] <modmadmike> anyone
[18:17] <connex> whatvn, why is it so different from the standard system v init, ie, i write init 3 and i am still on x......
[18:17] <Nana> and i cant turn on linux
[18:17] <rali60> "join ubuntu-de"
[18:17] <Nana> its mounted as "read only"
[18:17] <SonicComKid> If anyone is available to help me with my SAMBA process freezing issue could you please PM me?
[18:17] <Nana> any ideas?
[18:17] <sebsebseb> nicklas_: hej san
[18:18] <nicklas_> sebsebseb: :-P
[18:18] <whatvn> connex: you can read about linux run level
[18:18] <ejv> byerley: well just because a package isn't committed to a repo, doesn't mean it's not floating around, one second :)
[18:18] <whatvn> connex: and ubuntu run levels too
[18:18] <modmadmike> anyone??
[18:18] <sebsebseb> nicklas_: your Swedish
[18:18] <sebsebseb> ?
[18:18] <Nana> help please
[18:18] <coreyman> Anyone know why firefox wont connect to my server at localhost unless im online but konquerer will. Firefox tells me it is in offline mode. I am unable to check Work Offline or uncheck it in Firefox File Menu.
[18:18] <nicklas_> sebsebseb: yes
[18:18] <connex> whatvn, are ubuntu's that much different from the standard ?
[18:19] <SonicComKid> x.x we really need a waiting ticket kinda thing here
[18:19] <modmadmike> anyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[18:19] <flintwingel> nana: have you had a system crash or bad shutdown?
[18:19] <Nana> yes
[18:19] <richard_> soniccomkid
[18:19] <Nana> my system got stucked
[18:19] <Nana> so i pressed restart button
[18:19] <richard_> it user 90159
[18:19] <SonicComKid> yes Richard_ ?
[18:19] <Nana> i cant now turn it on
[18:19] <whatvn> connex: a little, i think
[18:19] <modmadmike> I can't reboot because synaptic broke my menu.lst and I don't know how to set up a menu.lst for a system which has / encrypted!
[18:19] <vigo> Nana: The entire install is Read-Only?
[18:19] <kryl> hi, I have a black area on my second screen with dual head + compiz (I use two different resolution) and jaunty
[18:19] <SonicComKid> oh, okay richard_
[18:19] <coreyman> Kryl is it Nivida?
[18:20] <richard_> I can access the failsafe terminal but still can get past login
[18:20] <richard_> i was user 90159
[18:20] <connex> whatvn, from a sys admins point of view, ubuntu is pure crap....
[18:20] <modmadmike> I can't reboot because synaptic broke my menu.lst and I don't know how to set up a menu.lst for a system which has / encrypted!
[18:20] <richard_> for some reason my name changed
[18:20] <ejv> byerley: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unbound ?
[18:20] <roel_> OK...I got this sweet little thing on my panel that closes stuff when its broken.. The cracked window thing that you click to close a misbehaving application...but now the lil window that says "click a window to make the application close or press esc to cancel" thing is stuck on my screen, and I'm too lazy to reboot because I think it could be fixed using killall. Any suggestions??
[18:20] <chiques> connex, Why do you say that?
[18:21] <SonicComKid> richard_ talk to me in PM please ( /query SonicComKid )
[18:21] <kryl> coreyman, yes
[18:21] <whatvn> connex: I'm not very good at English, *pure crap* is not in my dictionary
[18:21] <kryl> with proprietary driver
[18:22] <roel_> whatvn, it means classified feces
[18:22] <connex> chiques, what ways do you have to define which services run at which run levels without playing around with init scripts?
[18:22] <mroc> whatvn: sorry about that...i'm not sure what happened there exactly.  must've dropped my internet connection briefly.
[18:22] <dgb-sdw> Alguem sabe qual é a versão do Adobe Postscript do ubuntu 8.10?
[18:22] <noBoot> hi i am having problems booting to 8.10 after messing around with smart boot manager, not sure what i did but ubuntu starts laoding (splash screen) then says that the hard disk by-uuid..... does not exist. broke somehting in the bootup process and need some help fixing it. anyone?
[18:22] <byerley> ejv: how would I use that?
[18:22] <coreyman> kryl uhm, i had the problem on my desktop, i traced it to a gnome problem, so i use kde now.... you said one of your screens is just black right.
[18:22] <chiques> connex, Are you asking in the 3rd person or me directly?
[18:22] <modmadmike> IS THERE NOT A SINGLE PERSON HERE WHO CAN RE SETUP A MENU.LST  ON A SERVER WHICH HAS / ENCRYPTED!!!!!
[18:23] <unicom> Problem: sound only appears on one box - no stereo (working on vista though) - how to solve this, wiki doesnt contain this issue
[18:23] <Pici> !attitude | modmadmike
[18:23] <Pici> !caps > modmadmike
[18:23] <coreyman> modmadmike i can't.
[18:23] <connex> chiques, you(and enyone else)
[18:23] <whatvn> mroc: try reboot and see if it works. do you already have Swap partition? you should have at least 1GB swap
[18:23] <chiques> modmadmike, Not me
[18:23] <FooBarWidget> ubuntu 9.04 has intel driver regressions. does anybody know why they decided to ship this driver anyway?
[18:23] <wOPr> had anyone her ever used DARKICE please? I need urgent help!!
[18:24] <iamtechno> How can I get lspci to report that correct amount of video ram on my ATI Radeon HD 4870
[18:24] <coreyman> well, bye kryl. Time for me to go.
[18:24] <FooBarWidget> the latest 2 ubuntu releases has regressions which force me to stick with 8.04 and all associated possibly outdated software
[18:24] <dgb-sdw> What is the version of the Adobe Postscript 8.10 ubuntu?
[18:24] <kryl> coreyman,  I use nvidia + separate x screen + compiz , the screen with the highest resolution seems bugged, I have a black area.
[18:24] <kryl> coreyman, if I disable compiz it's ok
[18:24] <whatvn> connex: If I understand what you say, I never agree with you
[18:24] <kryl> (under gnome)
[18:24] <chiques> connex, Something like this http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/how-to-controlling-access-to-linux-services.html or are you doing something more advanced?
[18:24] <ozzmosis> modmadmike: you could try the ubuntu-users mailing list instead.  but be polite.
[18:24] <ejv> byerley: well basically, it wouldn't be a terrible idea to upgrade your system if at all possible, but hardy is supported, so you'd download the .tar.gz file, do a tar xvfz unbound.....tar.gz, ./configure, make, make install
[18:24] <mroc> whatvn: i have a swap of 1.44gb, showing as ~300mb used.  any way to do this without rebooting?
[18:24] <blastur> hey, how do I move a window to another screen (not workspace) in Ubuntu Jaunty? in Intrepid, I could just open the app on whatever screen I wanted it, but with Jaunty, they all open on the Primary screen, regardless of where my focus is when I launch the app
[18:25] <Pici> connex: There is nothing wrong with the runelvels on Ubuntu.  Runlevels 2-5 are the same thing.  The same is true for Debian.
[18:25] <ejv> byerley: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/unbound/1.0.2-1.2ubuntu1~hardy2/+files/unbound_1.0.2.orig.tar.gz
[18:25] <whatvn> mroc: i think no
[18:25] <dgb-sdw> What is the version of the Adobe Postscript 8.10 ubuntu?
[18:25] <modmadmike> oh well Ill just install another ubuntu install in a similar way and copy the menu.lst
[18:26] <byerley> ejv: I've already done the manual install with the tarball at http://www.unbound.net/download.html do you think there'd be a difference?
[18:26] <mroc> whatvn: ok.  i'll check it out.  if things are working, i won't sign back in, so thank you in advance.
[18:26] <mannytu> modmadmike, wait, then ask again...
[18:26] <modmadmike> and of cousr match the hdprams
[18:26] <whatvn> mroc: :)
[18:26] <_UsUrPeR_> hatter243: I just finished reading the page you sent me to. It's not too informative, and does not tell me how to make bridges I have created permanent. I checked the advanced portion, here: http://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/Net:Bridge and that issue was not discussed either
[18:26] <Pici> dgb-sdw: I'm not failiar with any package that can be described as Adobe Postscript, what are you looking to do?
[18:26] <kryl> does anybody have a solution for this problem : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/160226
[18:26] <ejv> byerley: oh! hmm... I tend to trust sources prepared by ubuntu over the developers... lol, let me look
[18:26] <modmadmike> I can't reboot because synaptic broke my menu.lst and I don't know how to set up a menu.lst for a system which has / encrypted!
[18:27] <mbrannock> modmadmike, maybe this will help? I have no idea how applicable it will be to Ubuntu... http://en.opensuse.org/Encrypted_Root_File_System_with_SUSE_HOWTO#Create_an_entry_in_the_bootloader_menu_for_the_new_root_file_system
[18:27] <chiques> modmadmike, Are you talking about the GRUB list?
[18:27] <iam_techno> How can I get lspci to report that correct amount of video ram on my ATI Radeon HD 4870
[18:28] <ejv> byerley: yes you would encounter a difference, they are different version sources, only jaunty via launchpad supports the latest and greatest "unbound" make sense? :P
[18:28] <XLV> iam_techno, use lshw
[18:28] <devin_> hey can someone give me a help im a new unbuntu user
[18:28] <Pici> !ask
[18:28] <devin_> ubuntu
[18:29] <byerley> ejv: seems to, thanks
[18:29] <modmadmike> chiques: yes
[18:29] <chiques> !ask
[18:29] <ejv> byerley: if you choose to use the latest source, you have to hack away at any problems yourself, generally packages prepared by ubuntu do all there own checks so you don't have to use so much elbow grease
[18:29] <Bllasae> !activate
[18:29] <chiques> modmadmike, "yes" what?
[18:29] <Bio> hi can anyone help me with ubuntu problem? i've installed it from cd, when pc boots i get an error message "GRUB LOADING" "GRUB ERROR 2" does anyone know any solution please?
[18:29] <dgb-sdw> Pici: was requested that information on my company and I do not know what is the version
[18:29] <iam_techno> XLV, What am I looking for in the output?
[18:29] <ejv> byerley: if upgrading to jaunty is an option, I say schedule it! ;)
[18:29] <modmadmike> chiques: yes im talking about grub's menu.lst
[18:30] <devin_> im trying to install programs and when i go to do that it gives me an option to open from another application
[18:30] <byerley> ejv: not the sysadmin for this box, don't really want to step on his toes heh
[18:30] <chiques> modmadmike, But its encrypted, right? Did the doc mbrannock sent help?
[18:30] <ejv> byerley: well let me know how 1.02-1.2ubuntu1~hardy2 works out
[18:31] <noBoot> any ideas on how to fix my boot problem?  after messing with "smart boot manager" it tries to boot but i get an error and cant get into ubunutu.  something about my hard drive not existing. when i put the live cd in i cant mount my hard drive and in gpart it shows one big unformatted hard drive.  but I canboot into XP
[18:31] <kryl> In a dual head setup with different resolutions, background wallpaper + desktop icons disappear when compiz runs
[18:31] <modmadmike> chiques: somewhat but i think it only apply's to suse which may or may not use a nouther encrypted daemon
[18:31] <XLV> iam_techno, you use http://ezix.org/project/wiki/HardwareLiSter/GUI for a gui
[18:31] <modmadmike> encrytion**
[18:32] <modmadmike> my ubuntu install used kcrypted
[18:32] <sidh> does ubuntu use ext3 or ext4 FS by default ?
[18:32] <Bram_P> hello, I have some problems with ubuntu: I can't upgrade(from 8.10 to 9.01), I get this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/177297/ also videos on youtube don't work and I can't make screenshots, it says it's not writable or something, is anyone able to help me?
[18:32] <jeniffer> hello friends... some of you have any idea what are the minimal packages I have to install if i want to run OpenBox?  (i have just installed Ubuntu minimal)
[18:32] <chiques> modmadmike, I don't have experience with an encrypted bootloader (GRUB). Lets see what anyone else suggests.
[18:32] <tones> sidh: ext3
[18:32] <darthanubis> sidh, it uses what you tell it to use
[18:32] <Yankefish> anybody know how i can add vista to grub bootloader, vista is on drive c:
[18:32] <Flannel> jeniffer: openbox and xorg (server and client) probably
[18:32] <tones> Yankefish chainload it in grub
[18:33] <sidh> thanks tones
[18:33] <darthanubis> Yankefish, it will do it for you
[18:33] <tones> sidh no problem :)
[18:33] <Yankefish> ok how??
[18:33] <modmadmike> I think I should just use another install as an example. im using the machine with the problem right now
[18:33] <sidh> darthanubis: i need to make ubuntu use an existing ext3 partition
[18:33] <chiques> Yankefish, It should automatically add it to your list. If not you might have to reload GRUB
[18:33] <tones> Yankefish if you are about to install ubuntu, it will automatically detect and add vista to grub
[18:33] <sidh> so i prefer asking
[18:33] <Sir-Integra> okay
[18:33] <eddyMul> can I "M-x server-start" in emacs-gtk and have an emacs-nox emacsclient connect to the server?
[18:33] <rjune> I have an MTP compliant media player, it used to show up as sda1/sdb1(internal flash / microsd card) however as of ubuntu 9.04 it doesn't show up at all and I have to use MTP compliant programs to work with it, does anybody know the software switches to tell the system to use it as a storage device?
[18:33] <Sir-Integra> when runnign unreal tournament 2004 in windowed mode, it works
[18:34] <Bram_P> >	hello, I have some problems with ubuntu: I can't upgrade(from 8.10 to 9.01), I get this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/177297/ also videos on youtube don't work and I can't make screenshots, it says it's not writable or something, is anyone able to help me?
[18:34] <Sir-Integra> but when i go to fullscreen
[18:34] <darthanubis> sidh, how do you feel about google?
[18:34] <Sir-Integra> it switches to my desktops resoloution
[18:34] <tones> Yankefish: if not, you can just find the vista partition number and add it to your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[18:34] <Yankefish> yea my munu says ubuntu,recovery,mem test the other operating systems
[18:34] <Sir-Integra> any idea why
[18:34] <Yankefish> i want it to say ubuntu, ubuntu safe mode, windows vista
[18:34] <chiques> Bram_P, Try booting from the disk
[18:34] <modmadmike> bye
[18:34] <jeniffer> Flannel thanks for your answer... And after that, how do i start it??? I have tried with startx and Xorg and running .xsession, but nothing....
[18:34] <tones> !enter | Sir-Integra
[18:34] <darthanubis> Yankefish, Other operating systems is a huhge hint;)
[18:34] <nascentmind> hi. when i run ppppoeconfig i select run at startup option so that it automatically connects but it never works. when i do pon dsl-provider it works .. why is that?
[18:34] <Sir-Integra> ..
[18:34] <darthanubis> even huge
[18:34] <chiques> Yankefish, You want to rename them? That's different.
[18:35] <Bram_P> chiques: I don't have a disk of 9.04 and only a very old one of 8.10....
[18:35] <Flannel> jeniffer: try openbox?
[18:35] <chiques> Bram_P, You're trying to load it off the image?
[18:35] <tones> Yankefish: vista isnt below "other operating systems"?
[18:35] <Yankefish> i want to rename and get rid of vista boot loader i want grub to load vista from c: without selecting vista loader everytime
[18:35] <tones> Yankefish: Thats not possible
[18:35] <Sir-Integra> fine: "I can run UnrealTournament 2004 in Windowed mode fine, but when i try and run it in fullscreen mode, it seems to use the resoloution 1280x1024 60Hz (my desktops res) and then my monitor goes black,
[18:36] <nascentmind> anybody?
[18:36] <Bram_P> chiques: no I just want to upgrade my system, but there are more problems now.... I did do some normal 8.10 upgrades
[18:36] <Yankefish> so grub cant load vista withiout the vista loader
[18:36] <tones> Sir-Integra maybe your monitor cant support the resolution or refresh rate
[18:36] <Sir-Integra> tones, it can.
[18:36] <tones> Yankefish: yup
[18:36] <Sir-Integra> i'm using that on linux now.
[18:37] <Sir-Integra> My resoloution is set at that. My monitor can handle it perfectly.
[18:37] <tones> Sir-Integra im guessing its a driver/kernel problem then..
[18:37] <unicom> Problem: sound only appears on one box - no stereo (but working on vista though) - how to solve this, wiki doesnt contain this issue - who to ask or how to proceed?
[18:37] <Yankefish> ok im lost 1 says it can and another says no which is it
[18:37] <Sir-Integra> tones: how would i find out if it is?
[18:37] <chiques> Bram_P, If you want to upgrade to Jaunty 9.04 I highly recommend getting a CDR, burning the image and booting off the disk if you can.
[18:37] <msshams1> hi, i installed openvpn on my server successfully. now, how can i connect to it as a client and use web surfing anonymously?
[18:37] <tones> Yankefish: sorry, yup meaning it cant support loading vista direct
[18:37] <Dre4m> Hi guys, Ok here goes, i'll try make this as simple as I can.
[18:37] <Dre4m> I have 2 Hard drives, both with 2 partitions each. for example DRIVE 1 > partition 1 Windows - Partition 2 All my files photos vids, docs etc. DRIVE 2 > partition 1 Ubuntu - Partition 2 "HOME" which is currently emtpy.  What I was wondering is if I can redirect the UBUNTU - HOME to be the partition 2 on my other drive . . EG my FILES. sO I can keep my files in 1 place and use them on ubuntu or windows . . .? is this safe to do? I really hope that made sence
[18:37] <chiques> Bram_P, It will save you tons of time.
[18:38] <tones> Sir-Integra run the said program, then type "dmesg | tail" into your favourite terminal or getty
[18:38] <Bram_P> chiques: ok, I'll do thanks
[18:38] <Yankefish> ok well can i edit the menu, the vista loader says vista then neoloader how can i remove the neoloader
[18:38] <Bram_P> chiques: won't my files of ubuntu 8.10 be lost then?
[18:38] <chiques> Bram_P, NP
[18:38] <connex> BRB
[18:39] <msshams1> hi, i installed openvpn on my server successfully. now, how can i connect to it as a client and use web surfing anonymously?
[18:39] <chiques> Bram_P, Just don't nuke your /home partition.
[18:39] <tones> Yankefish: neoloader?? doesnt ring a bell... anyway if its a menu option and you dont have a clue what it is, you can delete it
[18:39] <Flannel> Bram_P: Just upgrade.
[18:39] <Yankefish> it says neogrub loader
[18:39] <whatvn> msshams1: first read document, then install. dont install then ask
[18:39] <szymon_> hello :)
[18:39] <szymon_> I am here new :)
[18:39] <noBoot> any ideas on how to fix my boot problem?  after messing with "smart boot manager" it tries to boot but i get an error and cant get into ubunutu.  something about my hard drive not existing. when i put the live cd in i cant mount my hard drive and in gpart it shows one big unformatted hard drive.  but I canboot into XP. i have read something about the fstab being messed up but no idea what to do
[18:40] <chiques> Bram_P, When you install Ubuntu there are 4 partitions (swap, /root, /home and something else I think). Just find out which is your /home partition and protect it when installing 9.04
[18:40] <jeniffer> Flannel sorry...i had a technical problem with my internet conection, but i am back again...did you say anything about how to start openbox? thanks
[18:40] <tones> Yankefish: is it commented? if it is then just leave it, its just a kind note for your sake
[18:40] <Dre4m> Please Help . . I have 2 Hard drives, both with 2 partitions each. for example DRIVE 1 > partition 1 Windows - Partition 2 All my files photos vids, docs etc. DRIVE 2 > partition 1 Ubuntu - Partition 2 "HOME" which is currently emtpy.  What I was wondering is if I can redirect the UBUNTU - HOME to be the partition 2 on my other drive . . EG my FILES. sO I can keep my files in 1 place and use them on ubuntu or windows . . .? is this safe to do? I really hope t
[18:40] <Flannel> jeniffer: Try just 'openbox'
[18:41] <Flannel> chiques: That's not default.
[18:41] <tones> Dre4m: you mean keep your /home directory on an ntfs (windows) partition? i wouldnt even go near that idea with a 10 foot stick
[18:41] <whatvn> noBoot: run chkdsk -r from windows
[18:41] <jeniffer> Flannel .... nop...it says it cant open in DISPLAY...or something like that...
[18:41] <Bram_P> chiques: ok, thanks I also have a backup of it, so it'll be ok
[18:41] <Yankefish> anybody on how to edit vista bootloader for ubuntu
[18:41] <noBoot> will do
[18:41] <chiques> Bram_P, Just make sure you read the installation menus. Make sure YOU DON"T choose "use entire disk".
[18:42] <Flannel> jeniffer: Ah, you'd have to start an xserver before that.
[18:42] <Dre4m> tones:  ok I have a partition on windows with my files on, for example my vids docs, photos, etc etc . . . I was wondering If I can make Ubuntu use that partition as its "home" so my files are in one place?
[18:42] <Dre4m> do you get me?
[18:42] <Grimwold> does anybody have experience with setting up ubuntu jaunty on a 400mhz machine ?
[18:42] <Flannel> chiques, Bram_P: Having separate partitions is not default.  When he reinstalls, he will likely overwrite all of his data.
[18:42] <chiques> Flannel, He has to read the menus.
[18:42] <tones> Dre4m loud and clear, but i dont like the idea one bit.. at least if the partition is ntfs
[18:43] <Flannel> chiques: If he doesn't have it as a separate partition, reading menus won't help.
[18:43] <tones> Dre4m ntfs support in linux is still very ginger
[18:43] <jeniffer> Flannel is that acomplished with X, startx, or Xorg? thanks...sorry but i am not an ubuntu expert :/
[18:43] <Dre4m> so you don't recomend me using the partition with my files on to use that in ubuntu. Even though that partition doesn't have windows on its just files
[18:43] <Dre4m> correct?
[18:43] <tones> Dre4m: correct indeed.
[18:44] <Dre4m> ok thanks so much
[18:44] <tones> Dre4m no problem
[18:44] <quentusrex> I have a bunch of home movies I would like to burn to a DVD to be played in a dvd player
[18:44] <Dre4m> so you reccoment copying the appropreit files accross to HOME on linux?
[18:44] <quentusrex> What application could do this???
[18:44] <tones> Dre4m thats the best idea i think
[18:44] <whatvn> Dre4m: why you don't keep all in HOME?
[18:44] <Dre4m> whatvn: because what would I do when im back on windows?
[18:45] <chiques> Flannel, Bram_P If there are files in the "/" partition, then you will wipe them. Like I said before, if you have two different partitions "/" and "/home" you will be able to exclude the "/home" from being formatted.
[18:45] <noBoot> whatvn:  ok nevermind. cant load into XP any more was trying to mess with the boot manager and now when i try to boot i just get grub loading stage 1.5 over and over
[18:45] <Flannel> Bram_P: You'll want to upgrade.
[18:45] <Nicolaccio> hello
[18:45] <Flannel> jeniffer: I've always thought it was startx.  Did you install both xorg and xserver-xorg?
[18:45] <chiques> Flannel, Bram_P Regardless, pull out your external drive and back up if you can.
[18:46] <whatvn> Dre4m: do thing you used to do :|
[18:46] <Dre4m> Basically what we are saying here is don't share files between two operating systems even if they are on a serperate Hard drive? is that def right? its just its gonna be a pain now me not knowing what I have on which drive instead of using one partition for files viewing them on which ever operating system im using
[18:46] <Bram_P> Flannel: yes but it gives a strange error when I do and also youtube videos don't work and I can't make screenshots, so I think there is more wrong...
[18:46] <tones> Dre4m there are some programs that can possibly access ext2/3/4 (unix) partitions on windows
[18:46] <Dre4m> hmmm
[18:46] <Dr_Willis> tones:  some of them even work! :)
[18:47] <Dre4m> tones: i have had linux for 1 day so bare with me hehehe
[18:47] <genii> quentusrex: Devede and tovid together can do stuff like create dvd-compatible vob files from files like .avi
[18:47] <tones> Dr_Willis: really?? ;)
[18:47] <whatvn> noBoot: you cannot boot into XP too? then using a  windows installer cd, using recovery mode to run chkdsk
[18:47] <jeniffer> Flannel well... it seems I missed something to install.... I will try that..... thank you very, very much!!!!
[18:47] <Dre4m> I thought i would be able to have 1 parttition set up for my files and I could access and use them on linux when im on linux and then windows when im on windows but this is not reccomended ya? please confirm so I can start thinkin of a way to do it lol
[18:47] <noBoot> ok
[18:47] <Dre4m> Thanks so much btw . . .
[18:48] <mikebeecham> Dulak: you here?
[18:48] <wOPr> had anyone her ever used DARKICE please? I need urgent help!!
[18:48] <newhen> Hey can anybody help me out for a second, I am trying to modify my boot paramaters due to a fuck up on my part in windows, and I a linux live distro that would let me do that. The basic problem is I have windows 7 that disabled a partition for recovery someone pointed me here http://www.mibbit.com/pb/Ls7EXc . Anything would help it might be a bit off topic ..
[18:48] <newhen> from ubuntu
[18:48] <Dre4m> is that correct tones?
[18:48] <flintwingel> Dre4m: a vfat partition will work
[18:48] <whatvn> Dre4m: if only you use that computer, do what you want
[18:48] <Sepero> How can I check if CFQ is enabled?
[18:48] <tones> Dre4m oh sorry, if the partition is not native linux, then no i wouldnt reccomend it
[18:48] <Burlynn> Dre4m: well if you had a fat32 partition for all your music videos etc you would be able to use it on both for your media etc
[18:49] <Dre4m> but not NTFS?
[18:49] <staar2> how to find package
[18:49] <staar2> Windows Media Audio 9 decoder ?
[18:49] <tones> Dre4m nope
[18:49] <mikebeecham> Dulak: ?
[18:49] <Burlynn> Dre4m: as long as its just media on it would work, all of /home no
[18:49] <whatvn> Dre4m: I keep all my photo, music, documents on a NTFS partition
[18:50] <flintwingel> tones: i think you're being too negative about ntfs support
[18:50] <Dre4m> huh? tones just said I shouldnt do that?
[18:50] <whatvn> Dre4m: why not?
[18:50] <tones> Dre4m at bare minimum, possibly fat32 but ntfs could spout so many problems
[18:50] <flintwingel> tones: ntfs support is solid these days
[18:50] <macman_> how many bootable oes's can i have if i can only have 4 primary paritions and 1 of them is swap ?
[18:51] <mobi-sheep> !ntfs-3g | Dre4m
[18:51] <whatvn> Dre4m: you can mount NTFS partition on linux everytime you like
[18:51] <Burlynn> actually when ive used them i found the ntfs tools quite good for linux, never had a prob
[18:51] <moza> tones : i also have all my documents photos ... on an NTFS partition and it works well for me
[18:51] <tones> flintwingel whatvn mobi-sheep id stick to the safe end, but your choice :)
[18:51] <Dre4m> love how only NOW everyone steps in lol
[18:51] <Dre4m> I appreciate all opinoins thank you very much tones
[18:51] <mobi-sheep> Dre4m: Ubuntu can read NTFS and Windows can read EXT3.
[18:51] <tones> Dre4m you started a revolution, no problem
[18:52] <Dre4m> lmao
[18:52] <whatvn> Dre4m: save your files in a ntfs partition, done! :-p
[18:52] <Burlynn> well the downside to fat32 is filesize limitations, that usually hinders me
[18:52] <tones> mobi-sheep the second not so well
[18:52] <Dre4m> whatvn: thank you man so much
[18:52] <newhen> would tinylinux live instlal
[18:52] <newhen> have grub
[18:52] <tones> Burlynn good point..
[18:52] <newhen> and be able to add the partition?
[18:52] <tones> !enter | newhen
[18:52] <connex> wasn't init replaced with upstart?
[18:52] <whatvn> tones: what problem with ntfs?
[18:52] <Yankefish> can grub load vista from the c drive
[18:53] <mobi-sheep> tones: I wouldn't know as I don't use Windows.  However, last time I know... There are a .dll file for ext support that you'll need to place in the corrupted heart of Windows System.
[18:53] <Dre4m> So going back to my original question . . . how can I assign UBUNTUS "HOME" to be that parttition?
[18:53] <tones> whatvn its really unstable, once there is one tiny chip the whole thing collapses
[18:53] <flintwingel> Yankefish: yes
[18:53] <Dr_Willis> Dre4m:  you can mount /home/ to be where you want. or move specific users /home/USERNAME dirs to pointto a different filesystem
[18:53] <tones> mobi-sheep: yes it is possible, but it didnt work on my xp.. and thats pine fresh (i never use it)
[18:53] <Yankefish> Flint how
[18:54] <tones> Dre4m fstab
[18:54] <Dre4m> how would I mount this partiotoin that currently says MEDIA to be HOME?
[18:54] <whatvn> tones: ntfs is good filesystem, i think. so much people think
[18:54] <newhen> Sorry, for the bad grammar. I am trying to see if using a live cd would edit the mbr enough so I could fix my problem of not being able to use my recovery partition
[18:54] <tones> Dre4m open /etc/fstab with your favourite text editor
[18:54] <tones> whatvn mm, we are all entitled to our opinions
[18:54] <Dre4m> when I installed ubuntu a few hours i set home to be on this drive
[18:54] <Dre4m> whats etc fstab?
[18:55] <Dre4m> dude im a newbie of the worst kind lol
[18:55] <tones> Dre4m: a file dear
[18:55] <whatvn> Dre4m: /etc/fstab
[18:55] <ricardo-reis> boas..
[18:55] <Dre4m> WHAT DOES THAT MEAN!? :)?
[18:55] <Dr_Willis> Dre4m:  it may be wrorth while to read a few linux basic tutorials  and guides... 'crawl, walk, run'
[18:55] <whatvn> tones: ok
[18:55] <tones> Dre4m: read about the linux filesystem.. youll need it
[18:55] <Dr_Willis> Dre4m:  if you dont unser stand the basics of  the linux filesystem ... /etc/fstab is the path to a file...
[18:55] <whatvn> Dre4m: then fly :
[18:55] <Burlynn> Dre4m: home should really be on an ext3 drive, i think your better off having the media partition automount, have an icon on the desktop for it etc
[18:56] <tones> Burlynn: im with you there
[18:56] <Dr_Willis> Home not on a ext2/3/4/ ? ICK - thats asking for problems.
[18:56] <Dre4m> OH
[18:56] <flintwingel> Yankefish: http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=d52b312a0
[18:56] <tones> Dr_Willis im winning again!!
[18:56] <Dre4m> LMAO
[18:56]  * Dr_Willis waits for ext5
[18:56] <whatvn> Dre4m: /home directory used to store much more user information, use ntfs is never a good idea
[18:56] <Dre4m> oh ok, so i'll forget setting home as my NTFS partition . . . just seems silly that "HOME" will do nothing then basically?
[18:56] <noBoot> ok chkdisk -r is running now just a lil over 50%
[18:56] <Dr_Willis>  /home on a ntfs file system.. is not going to work very well.. if at all
[18:57]  * tones celebrates happily
[18:57] <Dr_Willis> Dre4m:  mount the ntfs to be /media/WindowsStuff
[18:57] <Burlynn> Dre4m: that is where all your configuration files for your user are stored for linux
[18:57] <mbrannock> Dre4m: home stores all of your user configurations and preferences
[18:57] <whatvn> noBoot: patience!
[18:57] <tones> Dre4m for your comfort, just mount the ntfs partition as /home/dre4m/winfiles/
[18:57] <Dre4m> home is like my documents on windows ya?
[18:58] <noBoot> oh no i was just letting you know. thanks for your help  so far and your patience
[18:58] <Dr_Willis> Dre4m:  no its mor like c:/users/USERNAME
[18:58] <tones> Dre4m that and all your config
[18:58] <whatvn> Dre4m: exactly
[18:58] <mbrannock> dre4m: home is like c:\Documents and Settings\USERNAME
[18:58] <newhen> Anybody have any experiance in grub that could help me out with enableing a partition for booting that windows 7 seems to have disabled
[18:58] <Dre4m> ye
[18:58] <Dre4m> so basically I wont be using that then really as i'll be using this parttition to get files off
[18:58] <mobi-sheep> !grub | newhen
[18:59] <setuid> I've got a Thinkpad T61p and it runs Ubuntu great... but I'm wondering how challenging it would be to add a second, external monitor to it. Problem here, is that my laptop's LCD display does 1920x1200
[18:59] <setuid> ...and the external LCD panel does 1280x1024.
[18:59] <mbrannock> dre4m: you can mount your windows drive in the home directory as if it were just another folder. this is what tones is saying
[18:59] <tones> Dre4m read more about linux before you try anything deep like this, youll get yourself in a right pickle otherwise
[18:59] <setuid> Can I set up some sort of Xinerama config that lets me use two _different_ resolutions on the same X server?
[18:59] <setuid> And if so... where would I read up on this?
[18:59] <Dre4m> THATs WHAT I TIRED TO DO!
[18:59] <whatvn> noBoot: I didn't said it could or could not solve your problem :-p. I just give you one solution
[18:59] <Dre4m> mbrannock: I wanted to mount the windows drive which I can see now . . . as "home"
[18:59] <Dr_Willis> Dre4m:  you got /home/ conrused with /home/YOURUSERNAME/a_normal_directory_theUser_can_access
[18:59] <noBoot> whatvn: haha i know
[19:00] <tones> Dre4m you cant mount the partition ON home, but you can mount it as a folder IN home
[19:00] <mbrannock> Dre4m: exactly, you could make your windows drive appear as a folder on your desktop, for instance
[19:00] <Dre4m> ye thats kinda what I wanna do
[19:00] <maginot> good afternoon. Anyone knows a good tutorial on how to configure a full mail server, with postfix, mysql, sasl, imap, webmail, wap, etc... ?
[19:00] <Dre4m> I have the drive on the desktop now . . it says 174GB media
[19:00] <vigo> Home is home, http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Ubuntu_(Linux)_Guide/Your_(user_account)_%22Home_Folder%22_&_file_system
[19:01] <whatvn> maginot: every app has its document
[19:01] <newhen> I didn't lose grub I just need to know if grub would fix my problem of making my partition bootable again as windows 7 turned it unbootable
[19:01] <mobi-sheep> setuid: Did you look at System --> Preferences --> Display ?
[19:01] <tones> Dre4m wow.. all those gigs..
[19:01] <setuid> mobi-sheep: "It appears that your graphics driver does not support the necessary extensions to use this tool.  Do you want to use your graphics driver vendor's tool instead?"
[19:01] <maginot> whatvn, what Im asking is some good link on how to make all work together. I don't know where to start.
[19:01] <mobi-sheep> setuid: System --> Administration --> NVIDIA X Server Settings.
[19:01] <mobi-sheep> setuid: Yes.  Run that.
[19:02] <Dre4m> swhen I reboot the media thing goes away and then I have to go to "computer" double click and enter a password . . .is there anyway like mbrannock said to get it to be a folder perminantly on desktop?
[19:02] <basti_> hi
[19:02] <tones> Dre4m yup, the fstab
[19:02] <Dre4m> LMAO! not that again lol . . how do I do FSTAB ^^ :)?
[19:03] <tones> Dre4m do you know how to open a terminal yet??
[19:03] <Nana> hi
[19:03] <Dre4m> yes
[19:03] <Burlynn> ubuntu 8.10 new install on a laptop intel 945 chipset, normal visual effects, DarkRoom theme option, all my popup notifications are two colors, is this normal? the background is half tan half grey, does not look right?
[19:03] <tones> Dre4m do so
[19:03] <Dre4m> id rather do it the gui way though
[19:03] <tones> Dre4m ok
[19:03] <tones> Dre4m you on gnome or kde?
[19:03] <Dre4m> gnome
[19:03] <setuid> Failed to set MetaMode (1) 'DFP-0: nvidia-auto-select @1920x1200 +0+0' (Mode 1920x1200, id: 0) on X screen 0.
[19:03] <tones> Dre4m press alt+f2
[19:03] <Dre4m> ya
[19:03] <Nana> plz help
[19:04] <whatvn> maginot: http://www.postfix.org/documentation.html first place you should visit
[19:04] <Dre4m> can I not right click on the drive and do it that way?
[19:04] <tones> Dre4m type in "gksu gedit /etc/fstab"
[19:04] <nascentmind> hi. how can i make pppoeconfig automatically start my dsl connection every time my computer boots?
[19:04] <mbrannock> newhen: yes, grub should detect the windows 7 mbr (assuming windows 7 does boot presently) and set things up to give you a choice between windows7 and linux
[19:04] <tones> Dre4m nope..
[19:04] <Dre4m> can I justr ask does the room agree with tones at this point ^^ :). ok done
[19:05] <Burlynn> Dre4m: its good advice heh
[19:05] <nascentmind> anybody?
[19:05] <Dre4m> I know :) i was only joking
[19:05] <tones> Dre4m i hope so... can you see the window with the fstab text file
[19:05] <Dre4m> ok its done tones
[19:05] <Dre4m> ye I can
[19:05] <tones> Dre4m ok, on a new line, type er...
[19:05] <Burlynn> woops
[19:06] <tones> Dre4m do you know the partition number
[19:06] <tones> and drive
[19:06] <Dre4m> dont know what it happend
[19:06] <Dre4m> how do I get the partition number?
[19:06] <tones> Dre4m ah.. ok do the alt f2 thing again and type "gparted"
[19:07] <setuid> Hrm, weird... but sort-of works... knocked out my primary display, but seems to have some manner of functionality. I'll monkey with this.
[19:07] <linduxed1> i need to make a folder and all its subs readable and writable for all users
[19:07] <Dre4m> pidgen closed down and I lost all what you said im so so so sorry for this . . . ok lets finish this . . .  im in terminal now . . .  go  from top
[19:07] <tones> linduxed1 "chmod 777 %file%"
[19:08] <tones> Dre4m no problem
[19:08] <linduxed1> tones: thx
[19:08] <tones> Dre4m ok, open the fstab in gedit or a command line editor like vim
[19:08] <Demonicdata> how do i sudo in gnome?
[19:08] <tones> Demonicdata "gksu"
[19:08] <Dre4m> how do I get FSTAB oopen?
[19:09] <Demonicdata> in other words i'm trying to save a edited source.list file and it says i need root,i don't wnat to do everyhting in the terminal so is there a fast way to do this in the gui?
[19:09] <tones> Dre4m in the terminal or altf2 window, type gksu gedit /etc/fstab
[19:09] <Dre4m> tones: k its open
[19:09] <mbrannock> Demonicdata: hit alt+f2 to get a "run" window, then preface the command with gksu
[19:09] <Dre4m> now in there you want me to type gparted?
[19:10] <tones> Dre4m now type gparted into a terminal or altf2 (run) window
[19:10] <lusepuster_> Goodmorning channel... I have a little problem: Anything that uses PolicyKit's little "unlock" button locks up and freezes when I try and use it. Could it be because I have the fprint-pam module installed, some kind of incompatibility? And does anyone have any idea how to troubleshoot? i would like to be able to use fx. Ubuntu  Tweak...
[19:10] <ryanprior> Hey there. I just installed a new wireless card in my computer and Ubuntu doesn't recognize automatically. It's an Edimax iLink card.
[19:10] <mobi-sheep> Demonicdata: Run in terminal --> gksudo gedit /the/path/to/file
[19:10] <Dre4m> gparted is not installed
[19:11] <tones> mobi-sheep gksu and gksu are the same file, just use gksu (easier)
[19:11] <whatvn> Dre4m: gparted for what?
[19:11] <tones> Dre4m then type into a terminal "sudo apt-get install gparted"
[19:11] <Dre4m> can I not just make some short cut or right click on the partition I can see it and I can access the files
[19:11] <Demonicdata> well i know how to do it in the terminal,i was wondering if there is something like a right click menu option "run as" like with windows,that would actually be very useful
[19:11] <mobi-sheep> tones: ?
[19:11] <chmac> echo $PATH doesn't return what's set in /etc/environment, the sbin paths are missing. Any suggestions on where to investigate?
[19:12] <tones> Dre4m actually, just mount the partition and open the mtab
[19:12] <whatvn> Dre4m: why you need gparted?
[19:12] <tones> whatvn i was gonna use it to find the partition number and drive. easiest way i thought
[19:12] <ryanprior> As far as I can tell, it doesn't even show up in lspci. What would that mean?
[19:12] <whatvn> tones: no. completely no
[19:13] <Dre4m> OK I have the DRIVE ICON sitting on the desktop I can access all my files on the NTFS partitionall I wanted is a periminant folder or perminant way to access it
[19:13] <tones> whatvn: mm... my sanity told me that too
[19:13] <Dre4m> so I dont have to go through "COMPUTER" every time
[19:13] <mobi-sheep> Demonicdata: You should not run apps as root all times.  What you're looking for is... nautilus-gksu
[19:13] <whatvn> tones: sudo fdisk -l, easiest way
[19:13] <mobi-sheep> !info nautilus-gksu | Demonicdata
[19:13] <jetsaredim> anyone know of a way to sync the audio track in totem?
[19:13] <tones> Dre4m do what what said
[19:13] <tones> Dre4m do what whatvn said i mean
[19:14] <Dre4m> whatvn: can I just creat a desktop short cut or wat ever
[19:14] <mobi-sheep> Demonicdata: I'll advise you against that.  This is not something you should be doing. :)
[19:14] <Demonicdata> no not all time,just with the option as a right click menu option,so you can launch the program with a root prompt
[19:14] <felix_> could someone take a look at this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/177358/ (im using builder, but that's not a builder problem; error is related to dependencies, dpkg, ucf and getopt)
[19:14] <Chr|s> Ok, I am finding this very confusing. I want to customize my desktop, make my panels transparent looking good, good themes and all. There is Meta City, Beryl, Compiz-Fusion, Emerald - I have no idea where to start
[19:14] <tones> Dre4m you can just go to "places" at the top and click it...
[19:14] <Dre4m> YE
[19:14] <mobi-sheep> Demonicdata: Install nautilus-gksu package.  Log out.  Log in.
[19:14] <Demonicdata> moThanks
[19:14] <Demonicdata> I just found that
[19:15] <Demonicdata> cool
[19:15] <whatvn> Dre4m: in terminal type: sudo fdisk -l the type in your password. use pastbin to give me result
[19:15] <tones> Dre4m that easy enough?
[19:15] <Dre4m> but I want a short cut
[19:15] <Nematocyst> I need include file: asm/page.h  I'm running 9.10 AMD64, what dev package (if that's the problem) do I need to add to get this file?
[19:15] <felix_> Chr|s, i like to use compiz with emerald. is powerfull.
[19:15] <tones> Dre4m whatvn will guide you to make the ideal entry into the fstab.
[19:15] <Dre4m> so there is no way to creat a short cut to that drive on the computer?
[19:15] <tones> Dre4m this way beats a shortcut
[19:16] <whatvn> Dre4m: you're using linux
[19:16] <felix_> could someone take a look at this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/177358/ (im using builder, but that's not a builder problem; error is related to dependencies, dpkg, ucf and getopt)
[19:16] <whatvn> Dre4m: in terminal type: sudo fdisk -l the type in your password. use pastbin to give me result
[19:16] <Dre4m> Im using Ubuntu yes, and I can see my drive in places and Id like to make a shortcut too it
[19:16] <Dre4m> lol
[19:16] <tones> Dre4m why dont you read a few tutorials or books and learn about linux's structure and culture
[19:16] <Chr|s> felix_: use compiz with emerald? hmm ok? what about the rest
[19:16] <noBoot> whatvn: ok chkdsk -r finished fixed some errors it said. still have my gub loading stage 1.5 problem(think i need to restore grub for that problem) but using super grub disk to boot into 8.10 i still get the gave up trying to boot device doesnt exist and the through livecd gparted still shows the whole drive as unallocated
[19:17] <Dre4m> maybe I should, I didn't realise Ubuntu couldn't make short cuts to things
[19:17] <tones> Dre4m: drag yourself away from your foolish windows nature
[19:17] <whatvn> Dre4m: we're on the way to create shortcut for you, man!
[19:17] <Dre4m> :(
[19:17] <tones> Dre4m: listen to the guy, he talks sense!
[19:17] <Dre4m> ok
[19:17] <Dre4m> Disk /dev/sda: 250.0 GB, 250059350016 bytes
[19:17] <Dre4m> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders
[19:17] <Dre4m> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[19:17] <Dre4m> Disk identifier: 0x51845183
[19:17] <Dre4m>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[19:17] <Dre4m> /dev/sda1   *           1        9230    74139943+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[19:17] <FloodBot1> Dre4m: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:18] <felix_> Chr|s, you can find lots of emerald themes and compiz skydomes, caps, etc in www.gnome-look.org
[19:18] <tones> Dre4m pastebit it
[19:18] <tones> pastebin
[19:18] <tones> what the bot said ^^
[19:18] <felix_> !pastebin | Dre4m
[19:18] <Chr|s> felix_: I don't see Emerald listed on the left hand side
[19:18] <amitz> how's the latest state of using vram of PS3 as swap in ubuntu? The info is convoluting.
[19:18] <tones> Dre4m or send it as a private message
[19:18] <felix_> Chr|s, beryl is the same
[19:19]  * Chr|s sighs
[19:19]  * rfkrocktk is here
[19:19] <SKYBravo> Teste
[19:19] <tones> wait.. the floodbot didnt ban dre4m did it?
[19:19] <whatvn> noBoot: then your hard drive....
[19:19] <Pici> tones: It was a mute, for flooding.
[19:19] <Dre4m> whatvn: ots om a [,
[19:19] <Dre4m> pm
[19:19] <Dre4m> no
[19:19] <Dre4m> im here
[19:19] <Pici> !paste | Dre4m
[19:20] <tones> Dre4m send a message to him privately with "/msg whatvn %msg%"
[19:20] <noBoot> whatvn lol thats not what i want to hear
[19:20] <tones> Dre4m i assume he has already done this for you
[19:20] <Burlynn> ubuntu 8.10 new install on a laptop intel 945 chipset, normal visual effects, DarkRoom theme option, all my popup notifications are two colors, is this normal? the background is half tan half grey, does not look right? Even with the stock theme the notification popup is two colors, why is this?
[19:20] <felix_> could someone take a look at this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/177358/ (im using builder, but that's not a builder problem; error is related to dependencies, dpkg, ucf and getopt)
[19:20] <Chr|s> felix_: how do I get compiz to use emerald?
[19:21] <noBoot> ok lets start with this how do  i resore grub from the ive cd. i know it stars with "sudo grub"
[19:21] <Chr|s> 1GRUB | noBoot
[19:21] <Chr|s> !GRUB | noBoot
[19:21] <user__> is there a ubuntu virtualization app that i can detach a windows from the virtual machine and put it on linux desktop like parallels of mac or xp-mode of win 7
[19:22] <sebsebseb> user__: what do you want to do exactly?
[19:22] <felix_> Chr|s, donwload ccsm. then there is an option called windows manager. by default it would say something like "/usr/bin/metacity" change metacity for emerald ;)
[19:22] <Pici> user__: I believe that there is a mode in virtual box that will do that.
[19:22] <xeemeex> is there anyone free to answer a question?
[19:23] <joanki123> i found this in my history:  chmod o+w myUserName
[19:23] <sebsebseb> !ask |  xeemeex
[19:23] <Pici> xeemeex: dont ask to ask, just ask
[19:23] <joanki123> what does that do?
[19:23] <user__> sebsebseb, i want to install windows xp on ubuntu for some apps but i want them to work like windows 7 xp mode
[19:23] <sebsebseb> user__: what's  windows 7 xp mode?
[19:23] <Pici> joanki123: It gives others write access to a directory or file called myUserName
[19:23] <_UsUrPeR_> does anyone know how to control virbr0 using brctl? I am trying to create a useful bridge, and it keeps acquiring a bridge I have created :(
[19:24] <xeemeex> ok
[19:24] <joanki123> Pici, is that weirrd that i found that in my history?
[19:24] <user__> sebsebseb its a new technology in virtualozation to run application on the host with out the desktop frame so it looks like its a host application not in virtual window
[19:24] <sebsebseb> xeemeex: what do you want help with?
[19:24] <Pici> joanki123: Depends if you remember doing it or not
[19:24] <xeemeex> why pppoe sets a wrong default gw?
[19:24] <sebsebseb> user__: ah yes that,  yep Virtualbox can do it I belive
[19:24] <Chr|s> felix_: ok thanks, I remember something similar like that
[19:25] <sebsebseb> user__: not sure how though, find out in #vbox
[19:25] <user__> sebsebseb, thank you
[19:25] <sebsebseb> user__: no problem
[19:25] <RoosterJuice> user__, ya user that is not a new technology
[19:25] <RoosterJuice> microsoft just claims everything that they haven't done before is new
[19:25] <sebsebseb> RoosterJuice: :D
[19:26] <xeemeex> when i connect pppoe over a wifi connection I get right ip address, right dns servers are stored in resolv.conf, but i obtain dsl modem'ip as a default route
[19:26] <axisys> i am trying to compile this network tool ProVerif but it failing http://pastebin.com/f3402895c
[19:26] <axisys> what am I missing?
[19:26]  * phoenixz is away: Gone away for now
[19:26] <noBoot> ok so im on the live cd did the grub tutorial to restore grub. goes to install it and it tells me of course that the partition doesnt exist. (although it just found it? i think) and of course gparted shows the hard drive as unallocated when i know it has ubuntu 8.10 and xp on it
[19:27] <Pici> !away > phoenixz
[19:27] <user__> RoosterJuice, sory i am new
[19:27]  * phoenixz is back.
[19:27] <xeemeex> i get 192.168.0.1 on if wlan0 when i expected an external addres on ppp0 interface
[19:27] <Chr|s> err
[19:27] <reacocard> hey, anyone know how i can find the kernel config for ubuntu feisty  2.6.20-15-server  ?
[19:28] <felix_> could someone take a look at this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/177358/ (im using builder, but that's not a builder problem; error is related to dependencies, dpkg, ucf and getopt)
[19:28] <sebsebseb> !feisty
[19:28] <reacocard> sebsebseb: yes i know
[19:28] <xeemeex> wrong question?
[19:28] <user__> can any one help me block an application from being viewed with global menu
[19:28] <reacocard> but i need to check something because im having issues with a partition
[19:28] <sebsebseb> reacocard: so you can't really expect support for it in here anymore
[19:28] <phoenixz> oh crap, not again.. sorry, its konversation with its @(#$*@# new configuration..
[19:28] <Isopropane_> Hi
[19:28] <jetsaredim> anyone know of a way to sync the audio track in totem?
[19:28] <reacocard> sebsebseb: im not asking support, its a question that i thought someone _might_ know
[19:28] <user__> i want to block global menu to view to menu of some apps
[19:29] <sebsebseb> phoenixz: I have used Konversation for ages, and no weird issues
[19:29] <reacocard> since about 3TB of data may be riding on it :/
[19:29] <Isopropane_> How do I increase the maximum screen resolution in the screen resolution dialogue?
[19:29] <sebsebseb> phoenixz: ,but I don't bother setting an away message either
[19:29] <paolo88> hi
[19:29] <sebsebseb> paolo88: hi
[19:29] <phoenixz> sebsebseb: How the heck do I configure it to not to do that? I went through the entire configuration, but I couldnt find it..
[19:29] <felix_> !dpkg
[19:29] <felix_> !ucf
[19:30] <felix_> cool
[19:30] <sebsebseb> phoenixz: don't know find out in #kubuntu
[19:30] <reacocard> alright then, let me aska  more generic question
[19:30] <felix_> !getopt
[19:30] <reacocard> how do i find the kernel config in general on ubuntu?
[19:30] <paolo88> i have vino server on ubuntu and tightVNC on xp, but on the remote pc (on xp) i don't can update the image on the monitor.i see always the same image, but on the ubuntu it is canghed
[19:30] <ryanprior> I just bought and installed a wireless PCI card for my desktop PC. I'm on Ubuntu Intrepid. The card doesn't show up, as far as I can tell, in lspci and I have no wifi0 device or similar. It's an Edimax iLink wireless PCI card. How can I go about making it work?
[19:30] <Isopropane_> How do I increase the maximum screen resolution in the screen resolution dialogue?
[19:30] <sebsebseb> ryanprior: oh dear
[19:30] <Smitttttty> how can i change the top colour of the cube and background, in compfuzion-gnome?
[19:31] <noBoot>  ok so im on the live cd did the grub tutorial to restore grub. goes to install it and it tells me of course that the partition doesnt exist. (although it just found it? i think) and of course gparted shows the hard drive as unallocated when i know it has ubuntu 8.10 and xp on it. any idea on how to get these partions recognized?
[19:31] <felix_> could someone take a look at this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/177358/ (im using builder, but that's not a builder problem; error is related to dependencies, dpkg, ucf and getopt)
[19:31] <sebsebseb> ryanprior: ok some wireless devices won't work at all,  and others need configuring
[19:31] <sebsebseb> !wireless
[19:31] <baobao> is dell computer any good
[19:31] <sebsebseb> baobao: that would depend on the computer your buying from them
[19:31] <sebsebseb> baobao: and  what you would be using it for
[19:31] <joanki123> is /usr/local a folder used by all users?  or is it just for the "local" user... as in my in my login?
[19:31] <baobao> dell lattitude vs ibm ideapad, which serie is better
[19:31] <Isopropane_> Anyone?
[19:32] <baobao> i'd use it for work, movie, and game
[19:32] <Detrix_> Isopropane_: I believe  you will need to edit the xorg.conf file
[19:32] <Dre4m> when I installed Ubuntu today I assigned a partition to "/HOME" is this now what I see under PLACES-> home folder? which has my docs my vids etc?
[19:32] <sebsebseb> ryanprior: see above for the wireless link if you missed it
[19:32] <ryanprior> sebsebseb: In my lspci, there's a line saying "04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 02)" -- would that be my wired connection or my wireless?
[19:32] <sebsebseb> ryanprior: that  would be the ethernet
[19:32] <felix_> no one here does know how to resolve dependance problems?
[19:32] <sebsebseb> ryanprior: the wired
[19:32] <joanki123> i want ot install libraries for all users - would it be /usr/local that i would use?
[19:32] <whatvn> Dre4m: in place you will see mounted partition too
[19:33] <joanki123> i want all logins to be able to access these libraries, thank you
[19:33] <sebsebseb> felix_: I may be able to help
[19:33] <baobao> dell lattitude and ibm ideapad seem both good, don't know which to pick
[19:33] <sebsebseb> felix_: what are you trying to install?
[19:33] <phoenixz> sebsebseb: done, it was in the identities config, not in the generic config..
[19:33] <felix_> sebsebseb, take a look at this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/177358/ (im using builder, but that's not a builder problem; error is related to dependencies, dpkg, ucf and getopt)
[19:33] <Isopropane_> Detrix_: I know that, but I don't know what to add to the file
[19:33] <sebsebseb> phoenixz: ok
[19:33] <Dre4m> ye :), I'm just trying to now confirm I set this all up when I installed it correctly. So can I just ask is HOME FOLDER the parition I made on linux Ubuntu when I assigned a new partition to /HOME
[19:33] <paolo88> nobody can help me?
[19:33] <Dre4m> ?
[19:33] <radicaljoe> joanki123>/usr/local/lib
[19:34] <sebsebseb> paolo88: don't ask to ask, just ask
[19:34] <Detrix_> Isopropane_: I have seen examples somewhere....cant remember at the moment....
[19:34] <sebsebseb> paolo88: don't ask to ask a question,  just ask the question
[19:34] <paolo88> sebsebseb: i have ask!
[19:34] <felix_> sebsebseb, dont fear builder, and please don't tell me that builder is no part of ubuntu; just because the problem ocurs in dpkg runtime
[19:34] <radicaljoe> joanki123>they should be root owned
[19:34] <sebsebseb> felix_: what are you trying to install?
[19:34] <whatvn> Dre4m: yes
[19:35] <paolo88> i have vino server on ubuntu and tightVNC on xp, but on the remote pc (on xp) i don't can update the image on the monitor.i see always the same image, but on the ubuntu it is canghed
[19:35] <whatvn> Dre4m: it's /home, not HOME
[19:35] <Dr_Willis> if no one knows.. repeate the question, and clarify it about every 10 min.. also check the forums
[19:35] <helper> hello brothers. what is the command to send mail quickly i want to put it in my script i try mail kad@kad test then i require a subject is there any command to put mail then email then subject in one command! thanks
[19:36] <ryanprior> sebsebseb: I have no other "network interface" or similar, so can any get-wireless-working doc possibly help me if lspci doesn't even see it?
[19:36] <test> hello
[19:36] <L3dPlatedLinux> Is there a way to make a app launcher to open a text file when clicked on the panel bar?
[19:36] <EagleScreen> L3dPlatedLinux: yes
[19:36] <sebsebseb> ryanprior: what type of wireless is it?  atheros?  or something else?
[19:36] <joanki123> radicaljoe, so when i /configure, i do /configure --prefix=/usr/local?  or --prefix=/usr/local/lib
[19:36] <xeemeex> maybe, did I make an off-topic question?
[19:36] <ryanprior> sebsebseb: The wireless docs you linked to talk about how to get wireless working on Dapper. The menu items they suggest checking don't even exist anymore, and we didn't have NetworkManager back then either.
[19:36] <EagleScreen> gedit /route/to/the/text/file.txt
[19:37] <noBoot> ok i guess i need to just try and boot into windows to get some files. any way to boot into windows when grub is messed up. restoring grub isnt working. ?
[19:37] <Detrix_> Isopropane_: here is a web page:   http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=129379&postcount=21
[19:37] <sebsebseb> felix_: usually when compiling stuff from tar.gz    loasd of dependancies are missing
[19:37] <ryanprior> sebsebseb: It's an Edimax EW-7128G
[19:37] <sebsebseb> felix_: you were trying to install from tar.gz?  or you were using aptitude?
[19:37] <L3dPlatedLinux> EagleScreen,  ty
[19:37] <noBoot> i can log in through the recovery console from an install cd but i need to actualy get into windows
[19:37] <test> i can install encore enltv pro tv fm whit chipset phillips :'(
[19:37] <sebsebseb> ryanprior: I don't know enough about configuring wireless's in Ubuntu to be able to help you
[19:37] <radicaljoe> joanki123>I'm not up on configure's options
[19:38] <rbd___> hey guys.... is there any editor in the ubuntu initrd image? e.g. I'm dropped to (initramfs) shell but I can't find vi, vim, ed, nano, pico, etc.... there is cat and zcat but I can't edit an existing file
[19:38] <ryanprior> rbd___: How about ed?
[19:38] <sebsebseb> ryanprior: stick around and someone else can probably help
[19:38] <kungen21345> im trying to follow this guide to get my tascam us-122l to work, but i dont understand what to do. http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1127282.html (last post)
[19:38] <rbd___> ryanprior: no not even ed
[19:39] <vigo> rbd__: emacs. pico or any others?
[19:39] <lianimator> has anyone got eclipse's Flex Builder plugin to work in ubuntu?
[19:39] <ryanprior> rbd___: How about sed? You could cat file | sed > file
[19:39] <ryanprior> which would be ridiculous
[19:39] <Isopropane_> Detrix_: Thanks :)
[19:40] <Detrix_> Isopropane_: Glad to help.
[19:40] <ryanprior> but the initrd is pretty ridiculous if it doesn't even give you vi or nano
[19:40] <kungen21345> im trying to follow this guide to get my tascam us-122l to work, but i dont understand what to do. http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1127282.html (last post) could any1 check it out, please
[19:40] <Dr_Willis> initrd is just supposed to be enough to hand off controll to the main os I thought
[19:40] <sebsebseb> !repeat | kungen21345
[19:41] <rbd___> ryanprior: yes there is sed, so I could resort to that...eek :)
[19:41] <dupondje> is there any way to debug flash plugin ? Cause It seems that the flash plugin in blocking external connections :(
[19:41] <peeps[work]> i noticed there is a samba package and a samba4.  anyone know what the differences/advantages are?  is samba4 stable?
[19:41] <sebsebseb> dupondje: no since Adobe Flash plugin is  closed source
[19:41] <ryanprior> rbd___: this will be a story to tell your grandchildren. "When I was your age..."
[19:41] <DetroitLibertyPe> I have tried several times in the past few months, especially lately, to set up Evolution to check my exchange e-mail from work. I have tried on XP SP3, Vista Ultimate, and my home PC Xubuntu 8.10.
[19:41] <DetroitLibertyPe> I have not been successful at all. I'm guess its my error, but it might not be. On the Linux box, i've entered all the information, to best of my ability.
[19:41] <DetroitLibertyPe> my address is jim.fulner@parrot.com
[19:41] <DetroitLibertyPe> I access my Web Account from https://mail.xi-lite.com/exchange
[19:41] <DetroitLibertyPe> So I have entered that as my OWA URL as well as a few variations suggested on various Linux Forum sites.
[19:41] <FloodBot1> DetroitLibertyPe: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:41] <DetroitLibertyPe> my user name I've tried both as jim.fulner@parrot.com and jim.fulner
[19:42] <Isopropane_> !xorg
[19:42] <dupondje> sebsebseb: crap :( cause It was working once, but still not :(
[19:42] <L3dPlatedLinux> EagleScreen,  ok done that and it opens just fine in gedit so what if i wanted to have to type the root password to open it do I gksu gedit /path/to/blah.txt
[19:42] <sebsebseb> dupondje: you an try Gnahs and Swfdec as Flash alternatives :)
[19:42] <sebsebseb> dupondje: Gnash
[19:42] <Isopropane_> Where abouts is the modeline generator Ubottu links to?
[19:42] <wOPr> had anyone her ever used DARKICE please? I need urgent help!!
[19:42] <teorias2000> sorry for flood... i'm testing some: _polto_
[19:42] <phoenixz> !intel
[19:42] <vigo> DetroitLibertyPe: Have you tried Thunderbird?
[19:43] <EagleScreen> L3dPlatedLinux: just test it
[19:43] <paolo88> i have vino server on ubuntu and tightVNC on xp, but on the remote pc (on xp) i don't can update the image on the monitor.i see always the same image, but on the ubuntu it is canghed
[19:43] <noBoot> ok i guess i need to just try and boot into windows to get some files. any way to boot into windows when grub is messed up. restoring grub isnt working. ? i can log in through the recovery console from an install cd but i need to actualy get into windows
[19:44] <felix_> sebsebseb, a base system in a chroot folder
[19:44] <felix_> sebsebseb, process is at half. system in chroot does have some commands such as ls, cp, mv, etc; but no apt, so i cant continue
[19:44] <L3dPlatedLinux> EagleScreen,  yes that works ty
[19:44] <_polto_> teorias2000 yep .. ?
[19:44] <vigo> noBoot: Try fixgrub?
[19:44] <dupondje> sebsebseb: but its weird, it worked once on ubuntu, but since I reinstalled its broken
[19:44] <dupondje> u happen to have netlog account ?
[19:44] <sebsebseb> felix_: I don't think I can help you
[19:44] <felix_> !paste
[19:44] <Dr_Willis> paolo88:  clarify to the channel.. is it Windows connecting via vnc to the GNome Vino server - so to display the gnome desktop? is this a local lan? wireless networking?   can the  gnome desktop connect/see the xp desktop if you set it up that way...
[19:45] <felix_> sebsebseb, sorry, i had lag; im trying to run apt-get
[19:45] <helper> hello brothers. what is the command to send mail quickly i want to put it in my script i try mail kad@kad test then i require a subject is there any command to put mail then email then subject in one command! thanks
[19:45] <sebsebseb> noBoot: you can fix Grub
[19:45] <ryanprior> I bought a new Edimax EW-7128G wireless card and plugged it in but lspci doesn't recognize it. What can I do?
[19:45] <sebsebseb> !Grub >  noBoot
[19:45] <hatter243> helper, mail -s <subject> <to:>
[19:45] <baobao> grub is not easy to fix, it can easily fx u up
[19:46] <Dr_Willis> grub is worth learning/reading and learning very well :)
[19:46] <sebsebseb> noBoot: super Grub CD or whatever  that could be useful, and not used it myself
[19:46] <helper> hatter243, i try this : mail -s test kad@kad didn't work
[19:46] <sebsebseb> indeed @ what Dr_Willis said
[19:46] <DetroitLibertyPe> I never seem to get pasted the authentication step in the Evolution setup wizard to access my Microsoft Exchange server so that I can read my work e-mail
[19:46] <livingdaylight> sudo dpkg -reconfigure xorg ?
[19:46] <noBoot> sebsebseb :live cd doesnt show my hard drive as being allocated so the grub set up cant run
[19:47] <livingdaylight> can someone give the command for reconfiguring X
[19:47] <maniel> hi
[19:47] <hatter243> helper, have you install mailutils? Is "kad" the hostname of the machine you're sending from?
[19:47] <paolo88> Dr_willsI can use the mouse/keybord of client pc on server...it's a internet connection between the 2 pc....in this moment the client is linked wireless, but in the future no. On client i see the motion of the fouse, but i don't see the update (refresh) of the screen
[19:47] <sebsebseb> !xorg | livingdaylight
[19:47] <livingdaylight> dpkg -reconfigure xorg.?
[19:47] <DetroitLibertyPe> vigo: thunderbird will not allow for access to MS Exchange, i've read several places that Evolution is the only Linux option
[19:47] <Guest35147> hey i have some problems with backtrack in vmware player
[19:47] <helper> hatter243, yes kad is the hostname
[19:47] <maniel> how to change vt resolution in  jaunty?
[19:47] <hatter243> helper, have you installed mailutils?
[19:48] <DetroitLibertyPe> work will not activate IMAP or POP, only direct access to Exchange is option
[19:48] <noBoot> super grub cd gets my grub info but when i choose boot winxp it just reboots into my usb thumb drive i have supergrub on
[19:48] <helper> hatter243, nah i'm now :)
[19:48] <vigo> DetroitLibertyPe: Ok, let me look for a possible solution.
[19:48] <Dr_Willis> maniel:  if you mean the 'console' you would have to proberly edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst and enable the proper framebuffer modes..
[19:48] <Dr_Willis> !framebuffer | maniel
[19:48] <D3ADLiN3> !find ?DCC SEND "ff???f?" 0 0 0
[19:48] <sebsebseb> noBoot: you want to get data from Windows?  and can't  access the Windows partiton on Live CD?
[19:48] <Dr_Willis> banned 3 times :) heh..
[19:49] <helper> hatter243, one more thing when i do pppoeconf eth1 it look like freeze when i do ifconfig eth1 down then up it work why ? before it was working ok
[19:49] <noBoot> sebsebseb: yes. nor can i access my 8.10 partition although i know they both exist
[19:49] <hatter243> helper, don't know. I've never configured pppoe before
[19:49] <sebsebseb> noBoot: well if you have Windows CD and let it overwrite the MBR bye bye Grub
[19:49] <sebsebseb> noBoot: well the part of Grub that is in the MBR
[19:50] <noBoot> sebsebseb how would i do that?
[19:50] <sebsebseb> noBoot: then you can restore Grub later or whatever,  but it sounds like  there's an issue with your partitions being detected also
[19:50] <vigo> DetroitLibertyPe: here, maybe: http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-10878_11-5989256.html
[19:50] <sebsebseb> noBoot: I think it's like  a   fix the install of Windows opton on that disc
[19:50] <rtk126> anyone know how to install heartbeat 2.99 and Pacemaker on Ubuntu 8.04?
[19:50] <noBoot> sebsebseb: yes i think messing with "smart boot manager did it. maybe deactivated it or something???
[19:51] <vigo> DetroitLibertyPe: That is called Open-Xchange, is a sposed to work with that.
[19:51] <noBoot> ok thanks
[19:51] <sebsebseb> noBoot: the Windows CD   can also detect your partitions, if they are still there
[19:51] <sebsebseb> !Grub | noBoot
[19:51] <betinho> #ubuntu-fr-jeux
[19:52] <tones> Dre4m did you manage it then?
[19:52] <DetroitLibertyPe> vigo: that's not reallly relivent, Open-Xchange an alternative to the exchange server, not a way to access the exchange server
[19:52] <sebsebseb> noBoot: why dual boot XP anyway?
[19:52] <noBoot> sebsebseb: yes wehn i do the recovery console i can log into xp
[19:52] <ashka> XD
[19:52] <ashka> But..
[19:52] <helper> hatter243, ok install it now, i try mail -s test -t kad@kad it don't send it look like freeze
[19:52] <ashka> Windows help Linux ? Noo !!! ='(
[19:52] <sebsebseb> noBoot: recovery console?  you meant XP CD thing?
[19:52]  * ashka exits
[19:52] <noBoot> sebsebseb haha sometimes there are reasons... like LOST
[19:52] <hatter243> helper, it wants the body of the message.
[19:52] <Dre4m> christ
[19:52] <noBoot> sebsebseb yes
[19:52] <hatter243> helper, man mail
[19:52] <Dre4m> lol just about ye lol
[19:52] <sebsebseb> ashka: what?
[19:52] <vigo> DetroitLibertyPe: I will look more, I do not use that OS anymore.
[19:52] <tones> Dre4m heh ok
[19:52] <sebsebseb> noBoot: ok so Grub is gone now?
[19:53] <whatvn> go sleep. goodbye everybody!
[19:53] <dupondje> sebsebseb:  gnash doesn't display anything :(
[19:53] <sharpone> question for room.. can anyone speak to getting fglrx drivers working with the FireGL V5725 in 9.04-64bit?
[19:53] <sebsebseb> noBoot: and only Windows boots now?
[19:53] <noBoot> well not yet
[19:53] <paolo88> Dr_wills: I can use the mouse/keybord of client pc on server...it's a internet connection between the 2 pc....in this moment the client is linked wireless, but in the future no. On client i see the motion of the fouse, but i don't see the update (refresh) of the screen
[19:53] <tones> Dre4m do what we all did once, read a book!
[19:53] <sharpone> getting black screen..
[19:53] <ashka> [21.05.2009 20:51:10] <sebsebseb> noBoot: the Windows CD   can also detect your partitions, if they are still there < Unbeliveable ! lol
[19:53] <sebsebseb> dupondje: they aren't as good as Adobe Flash, but  they are alright these days
[19:53] <DetroitLibertyPe> vigo:I  don't use windows at home, but need a way to access my work e-mail, the web interface is much less than ideal
[19:53] <jonaskoelker> Hi all.  I'd like to build a kernel identical to the one I have (2.6.28-11-generic), except with a single line in /boot/config* changed.  Is there a guide for doing this somewhere?
[19:53] <tones> whatvn vbya
[19:53] <noBoot> sebsebseb i havent wiped iut the mbr yet
[19:53] <sebsebseb> ashka: you obviously hadn't followed his whole issue
[19:53] <Pici> !kernel | jonaskoelker take a look
[19:53] <vigo> DetroitLibertyPe: I understand. http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/righttool/?p=132
[19:53] <petrolman> Hi, Google-Earth (Version 4.3/5.0) kills my Linux! As soon as I open an menu item the screen freezes, I have to use the reset button!
[19:54] <sebsebseb> ashka: so stop trying to troll
[19:54] <ashka> ^^"
[19:54] <whatvn> tones: nice to see you here next time :)
[19:54] <dupondje> it just sux that it once worked, and now is broken somehow
[19:54] <ashka> I go
[19:54] <ashka> bye
[19:54] <noBoot> ashka: i have pretty FUBAR ed this whole thing
[19:54] <Dre4m> my mind is fried now  . . . I think the thing is being deseased like thinking the "windows way" but you guys have no idea becuase you have moved on from windows what its like for a windows guy to try understand lol
[19:54] <noBoot> haha
[19:55] <THRHOPE4LINUX> How can u fix resume in jaunty?
[19:55] <tones> Dre4m i may seem a unix nut, but i only moved last month.. although i was already well learnt then..
[19:55] <helper> hatter243, no flags for body message in man mail
[19:55] <sebsebseb> Dre4m: no  most Ubuntu users, also use Windows sometimes
[19:55] <noBoot> sebsebseb: well thanks for the help ill try the windows setup disk and if all else fails i guess the machine gets nuked :(
[19:55] <Dre4m> tones I just installed gparted where is it? I cant find it in the list?
[19:55] <sebsebseb> noBoot: if you do the Windows set up
[19:56] <hatter243> helper, if you pipe data to it, it doesn't need a body. echo "This is a test" | mail -s <subject> <to:>
[19:56] <zupb> hi, guys :)
[19:56] <sebsebseb> noBoot: disc thing I was on about,  it will go over Grub on the MBR Master Boot Record as I already said
[19:56] <THRHOPE4LINUX> any1? still no fix ... do u think that it could be open source ati driver -- cos screen doesnt come on during resume
[19:56] <sebsebseb> noBoot: then you got to re install Grub  really
[19:56] <sebsebseb> !grub
[19:56] <tones> Dre4m menu>applications>accessories OR system tools i think
[19:56] <vigo> DetroitLibertyPe: Maybe this: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/setting-up-evolution-to-use-microsoft-exchange-586131/
[19:56] <noBoot> yes thanks
[19:56] <sebsebseb> noBoot: ok well good luck then
[19:56] <tones> Dre4m that or type gparted or sudo gparted in a terminal
[19:57] <alvarezp> Hello everybody. How do I set the monitor gamma for only one of my two monitors? My video card is an ATI, using open-source driver. 3D effects are disabled.
[19:57] <kita> bonjorno
[19:57] <alvarezp> I tried using "monica", but it sets the gamma for both monitors.
[19:57] <Code-E> Hi. I'm using ubuntu that I just downloaded, and I'm using it as my main OS on my personal computer. Defintely nice and such. the only problem I'm having with it is that the sound is kind of jumpy and staticy. Is there any fix to this? and by that i mean that it skips, sometimes, and you can kind of hear static, which was not present on my previous Windows installation.
[19:57] <Dre4m> tones? you there?
[19:58] <tones> Dre4m as always :)
[19:58] <THRHOPE4LINUX>  any1? still no fix ... do u think that it could be open source ati driver -- cos screen doesnt come on during resume
[19:58] <archman> how to mount panasonic lumix
[19:58] <archman> ?
[19:58] <THRHOPE4LINUX>  any1? still no fix ... do u think that it could be open source ati driver -- cos screen doesnt come on during resume
[19:58] <roy_hobbs> Is the fglrx driver no longer needed for ATI cards?
[19:58] <THRHOPE4LINUX> no
[19:58] <Dre4m> I need to know something and I think your the only guy who understands me in this world right now lol . . . im gonna try say this calm and collectively lol ok?
[19:58] <roy_hobbs> THRHOPE4LINUX: answering me?
[19:58] <tones> Dre4m ok
[19:58] <THRHOPE4LINUX> new ati driver in jaunty = open source
[19:58] <Dr_Willis> roy_hobbs:  ati sort of dropped support for some cards and now the GPL drivers are the official ones for those cards.. (yes its a bit confsing)
[19:59] <THRHOPE4LINUX> yes roy
[19:59] <vigo> Code-E: Have all the drivers and audio pkgs installed like Pulse and Alsa?
[19:59] <roy_hobbs> Dr_Willis: ok thanks, I was frustrated with jockey for a while there =)
[19:59] <tones> Dre4m pm me then
[19:59] <Code-E> No idea, vigo. Just a fresh install.
[20:00] <bmwerks> how do i change my home mount point to a seperate partition without re-installing?
[20:00] <sharpone> roy_hobbs: got a similar issue, my card is still 'supported' by ATI, but all of the ATI drivers i've tried give me black screen when i boot, with artifacts..
[20:00] <Artissimo> Hi all, Im having some trouble with networking my DHCP manually. I use the IP Address (192.168.1.10), Netmask (192.168.1.1) and the gateway (255.255.255.0) and dns server 192.168.1.1
[20:00] <sebsebseb> !home | bmwerks
[20:00] <Artissimo> However, the netmask keeps getting changed to 192.168.0.0
[20:00] <vigo> Code-E: That is what I would check first, on the forums, also the bot has information on that, there is an online version of ubottu.
[20:00] <Artissimo> Ultimatly not allowing me to get a connection
[20:00] <bmwerks> thanks :P)
[20:00] <bmwerks> :)
[20:00] <sebsebseb> bmwerks: no problem
[20:00] <THRHOPE4LINUX> does any1 know hw 2 fix resume with os ati driver
[20:01] <THRHOPE4LINUX> should i compile a newer 1
[20:01] <vigo> Code-E: here> http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi
[20:01] <THRHOPE4LINUX> cos ive already fucked up my pc bare already
[20:01] <thiebaude> !language
[20:01] <THRHOPE4LINUX> calm down mate
[20:01] <thiebaude> you clam down
[20:01] <sebsebseb> thiebaude: I was going to do that,  but  I  was trying to do the auto complete with his name
[20:01] <Artissimo> What should the netmask be?
[20:01] <tones> somebody kick him out
[20:02] <thiebaude> sebsebseb: kewl, thanks
[20:02] <sebsebseb> tones: kick who out?
[20:02] <thiebaude> tell me to clam down
[20:02] <THRHOPE4LINUX> m8 seriosly stop overreatcing
[20:02] <tones> that thorpe4lin guy
[20:02] <sebsebseb> tones: why?
[20:02] <konam> does somebody know how to solve the quickplay issue with a hp dv2000 laptop?
[20:02] <THRHOPE4LINUX> he cant take being told 2 calm down
[20:02] <thiebaude> !offtopic
[20:02] <sebsebseb> thiebaude: yeah your probably overreating a little bit :d
[20:03] <sebsebseb> anyway guys
[20:03] <sebsebseb> !ot
[20:03] <THRHOPE4LINUX> do u seriously nt have anything betta 2 do
[20:03] <THRHOPE4LINUX> im trying 2 help pple
[20:03] <sebsebseb> heh  thiebaude beat me to that as well
[20:03] <Artissimo>   Is there a linux networking channel? Nobody seems to know about dhcp here?
[20:03] <Pici> THRHOPE4LINUX: Please respect our channel guidelines, see the channel topic for a link.
[20:03] <vigo> Y'all all settle down and let us keep this the help channel that it is.
[20:03] <THRHOPE4LINUX> ok
[20:03] <toehio> I was watching a hd movie with vlc which was lagging and then ubuntu froze (i had to restart). Now when I open any movie (not hd) and go to fullscreen (vlc and totem movie player) my computer freezes, which wasn't the case before. What is happening and how do I 'fix' this?
[20:03] <hatter243> Artissimo, What's your problem?
[20:03] <THRHOPE4LINUX> kl piki
[20:03] <thiebaude> vigo: true
[20:03] <Artissimo> hatter243: I can't get a connection using the settings I typed above.
[20:03] <THRHOPE4LINUX> wats the problem with ure DHCP?
[20:04] <hatter243> Artissimo, a netmask of 192.168? Really?
[20:04] <zek> toehio: do you have desktop effects enabled?
[20:04] <Artissimo> It's not working. Shouldn't the netmask be my router?
[20:04] <peeps[work]> Artissimo, you could try #networking .  it's not linux specific, but there are plenty of knowledgable people ther
[20:04] <toehio> zek: yes, I do
[20:04] <THRHOPE4LINUX> toehio - maybe accelerated driver stopped working -- now possibluy using vesa?
[20:04] <zek> toehio:  try turning them off and see if that helps
[20:04] <hatter243> Artissimo, no, the netmask tells your computer which IP addresses are on the same network. The Gateway should be the router. Netmask 255.255.255.0 Gateway 192.168.1.1
[20:05] <zek> toehio: it was a problem on my system
[20:05] <toehio> when I noticed the lag I disabled desktop effects and then put the video in full screen, when it crashed
[20:05] <rob0917> can I install ubuntu-restricted-extras if I live in United States?
[20:05] <trone> i cant play mp3 files, i have the ugly and bad set of gstreamer plugins.
[20:05] <THRHOPE4LINUX> do the efectrs work toehio?
[20:05] <mannytu> i did
[20:05] <toehio> yes, the effects work without a problem
[20:05] <nicklas_> !restricted
[20:05] <scunizi> rob0917: can you? yes.. is it legal? that's up for debate
[20:05] <zek> toehio:  what graphics chipset do you have?
[20:05] <Dr_Willis> rob0917:  i do all the time...
[20:05] <toehio> GeForce 9600GT
[20:06] <Dr_Willis> rob0917:  first thing i install normally :)
[20:06] <hatter243> rob0917, Of course you can use them. If I'm not mistaken, the "restricted" part refers to the fact that they're not open source
[20:06] <zek> toehio: what format is the movie?
[20:06] <toehio> But this fullscreen problem only came when my computer crashed while playing a hd video
[20:06] <Artissimo> hatter243: thanks
[20:06] <rob0917> thanks,just don't want to go to jail
[20:06] <toehio> it's .mkv
[20:06] <trone> anybody know whats wrong
[20:06] <scunizi> hatter243: but it also includes mp3 codecs which are "licensed"
[20:06] <toehio> H264
[20:07] <zek> toehio: i dont think that vlc's support for mkv is very good
[20:07] <hatter243> scunizi, The heck if I'm going to call the flash player and java "questionable legality" though
[20:07] <zek> toehio: that might be part of the problem
[20:07] <toehio> zek: I have played mkv in the past without a problem
[20:07] <zek> toehio: yeah but the more it has to decode the file the more it will lag
[20:07] <THRHOPE4LINUX> vlc is fine ..just new versions hv a few problems decompessing videos ..i.e weird colours
[20:07] <toehio> zek: but how could it have an effect on totem too? Because after I rebooted none of them can do fullscreen
[20:07] <scunizi> hatter243: I would either.. it was just a question about the package itself.  If it has codecs that require paying a licensing fee for in the US then I was correct
[20:08] <scunizi> *wouldn't
[20:08] <Code-E> I am noticing some pretty bad performance right now. Ubuntu keeps freezing every couple of seconds for a split second. Is there  any reason for this?
[20:08] <toehio> zek: I am trying normal .avi files and that crashes in fullscreen too
[20:08] <zek> toehio: totem has never worked for me very well
[20:08] <toehio> zek: neither
[20:08] <Bob_Dole> mkv is a container file
[20:08] <hatter243> scunizi, you know, you might be right. I guess I never looked to far into which libraries were actually included.
[20:08] <Bob_Dole> VLC has poor support for Real media files, Real Media can be put in mkv
[20:08] <toehio> Bob_Dole: the codec is H264
[20:08] <Artissimo> hatter243: I have applied those settings and it still isnot working. Do I need to reboot?
[20:09] <wildc4rd> looking for advice getting a printer to function under 9.04
[20:09] <hatter243> Artissimo, "sudo /etc/init.d/networking reboot"
[20:09] <Bob_Dole> then I havn't a clue. I've only ever had issues with mkv's housing real.
[20:09] <scunizi> wildc4rd: what printer
[20:09] <zek> toehio: go to preferences in vlc and see what your output is (x11 opengl ...)
[20:09] <wildc4rd> its a Brother DCP-145C
[20:09] <Artissimo> hatter243: is init.d similiar to launchd?
[20:09] <toehio> zek: it's default. i will change it to x11
[20:10] <scunizi> wildc4rd: have you checked Brother's site for their linux drivers and instructions?
[20:10] <zek> toehio: try that and if it doesnt help try opengl
[20:10] <hatter243> Artissimo, I don't know. Init.d contains many of the services start/stop scripts
[20:10] <wildc4rd> they have a deb file, but ubuntu seems not to detect it
[20:10] <Artissimo> Oh, I think it is. launchd is on OS X / some unix. Anyways, ifconfig still shows the Mask:192.0.0
[20:11] <toehio> zek: I will turn off all desktop effects and open a normal .avi xvid file and put it in fullscreen and see what happens. I may crash, so it could take a while for me to come back
[20:11] <THRHOPE4LINUX> bye
[20:11] <scunizi> wildc4rd: you mean when you double click it, it doesn't do anything?
[20:11] <zek> toehio: ok good luck
[20:11] <Bllasae> !nukw
[20:11] <Bllasae> 2323
[20:11] <zek> toehio: btw you could try ctrl alt backspace instead of rebooting
[20:11] <Artissimo> hatter243: Shouldn't ifconfig be showing the update mask?
[20:11] <Dulak> Artissimo: sorta, init.d is the dir that contains the scripts to run at boot, so it's more like /Library/LaunchDaemons than launchd
[20:12] <toehio> zek: 9.04 disabled that :)
[20:12] <toehio> :(
[20:12] <Artissimo> Dulak : ah
[20:12] <hatter243> Artissimo, How are you "reconfiguring" this? /etc/network/interfaces?
[20:12] <Artissimo> hatter243: the gnome ui tool
[20:12] <toehio> zek: i also tried alt+ctrl+F1 to get a console and that didn't work
[20:12] <trancefat> Hi all, can i access some files from a windows machine to this machine?
[20:12] <zek> why did 9.04 disable ctrl alt backspace ??
[20:12] <wildc4rd> scunizi, I installed the deb packages, but when I add printer, ubuntu can't find suitable drivers
[20:12] <trancefat> i m on ubuntu 904
[20:12] <Pici> zek: Because xorg disabled it in their source.
[20:12] <Bob_Dole> zek: people were accidentally hitting it too often and complained
[20:13] <Dulak> Artissimo: init is sort of the launchd of linux, doesn't work anything like launchd really but serves the same sort of function
[20:13] <hatter243> Artissimo, oh, okay, right click on the little computer icon thing *uncheck* "Enable Networking" and then recheck it.
[20:13] <zek> why didnt they map it to ctrl alt delete so its similar to windows,  or make it a four key combo
[20:13] <toehio> zek: btw, I use compiz settings manager and every time i turn off advanced desktop effects and turn them on again, it resets the settings. Is there a way to turn off the desktop efffects in a way that doesn't reset them? Maybe not going through the GUI?
[20:13] <jonaskoelker> Pici: thanks for the reference to the kernel guide :)
[20:14] <mobi-sheep> !dontzap | zek
[20:14] <mobi-sheep> zek: Now you know how to enable it on.  Not too hard, is it? :)
[20:14] <uter> hi @ all ;) I have a problem with my Tv-Card (Hauppauge Nova-S Plus) - > since jaunty I am not able too load cx88-dvb, can someone helps me ?
[20:14] <zek> toehio: i dont know,  i personally am not a fan of eyecandy
[20:14] <Artissimo> hatter243: many thanks
[20:14] <scunizi> wildc4rd: most likely it put the cups driver in a directory that isn't in the path of where cups looks.  in a terminal do.. sudo updatedb .. then... locate *.ppd .. this should provide a list of all ppd files on your machine.  Look for the one matching your machine and make note of the directory location.  then in Firefox go to http://localhost:631 and add the printer there.
[20:14] <Pici> zek: You'd have to ask the Xorg developers that.  The Ubuntu developers did not make this decision.
[20:14] <wildc4rd> mmm, scunizi, do I need the cuppswrapper driver as well as the printer driver?
[20:14] <zek> Pici: ok sorry that was offtopic
[20:14] <toehio> zek: ok, thanks. (I love it :))
[20:14] <scunizi> wildc4rd: probably but that depends on what their site says.
[20:15] <hatter243> Artissimo, Apologies for the confusion, I'm used to working through the terminal and I forgot that the gui networking config uses a different system
[20:15] <toehio> zek: the movie is fine so far when it's not in fullscreen
[20:15] <zek> toehio: thats good,  is it better than before?
[20:16] <zek> i know that everybody loves vlc but is there anything better for ubuntu.  i know on windows that media player classic works better (better playback ie no lag) is there something similar on ubuntu?
[20:17] <dupondje> somebody here with netlog account
[20:17] <dupondje> ?
[20:17] <mobi-sheep> zek: I liked Gnome-Mplayer
[20:17] <UnnamedPlayer> rg
[20:17] <mobi-sheep> zek: Not same as Mplayer.  Just a different (simpler) front-end.
[20:17] <iamtechno> zek: mplayer is very nice
[20:17] <wildc4rd> cheers scunizi, was the cups driver, added that and its working fine
[20:17] <scunizi> zek the lag could be caused by your video drivers.. try mplayer and gxine for comparison
[20:18] <scunizi> wildc4rd: cool..
[20:18] <zek> mobi-sheep: does that have better playback than vlc.  cause vlc is nice for playing anything but it doesnt play some stuff real well
[20:18] <DetroitLibertyPe> Bob_Dole: how do you accidentaly ht CTRL+ALT+backspace?
[20:18] <zek> that is a good question. lol
[20:18] <Bob_Dole> DetroitLibertyPe, I havn't a clue.
[20:19] <zek> toehio:  is that working for you?
[20:19] <Viper550> Bob_Dole, this is why we have the new DontZap option by default in newer versions of X I heard
[20:19] <mobi-sheep> zek: We all have our own problems.  Your problem is different than mine.  I don't have problems running MKV or AVI.  Our hardwares factors in that too.  We even run different video files / formats. :) :
[20:19] <Bob_Dole> Viper550, I already figured that
[20:20] <zek> mobi-sheep:  but it seems like the people at vlc could fix it.
[20:20] <Dre4m> Hi I just installed gparted and I can't find it in any of the lists? why would this be and how can I put it in a list menu?
[20:20] <Bllasae> i'm filing my first problem report!
[20:20] <scunizi> Dre4m: should be at System/Admin/Partition Editor.. or from terminal with gparted
[20:20] <mobi-sheep> zek: I'm using VLC Alpha 1.0 to resolve the embedded window issue.  You might want to try that.
[20:20] <Dre4m> ignore that I have found it . . .its called partition editor not gparted
[20:20] <Dre4m> lmao
[20:21] <Dre4m> thanks bb
[20:21] <x2o> hi, where is the saved-session file located in jaunt?
[20:21] <x2o> y
[20:21] <x2o> ive got to erase it but cant find it
[20:21] <helper> if i got script i want to run it always run like in script i put if someone ping my server send me email to kad@kad, the scripting wrking fine but where should i put the script so it will always take this action ?
[20:21] <zek> mobi-sheep:  embedded window issue??
[20:21] <th0r> x2o: a better approach will be to set up the session the way you WANT it saved, then save it, then disable sessioin save when you log out
[20:22] <NeoMatrixJR> HELP: Is anyone familiar with token authenticated wifi?  I need to get this set up.
[20:22] <Bllasae> I submitted my first bug report!
[20:22] <mobi-sheep> zek: The result of having two UI interfaces when running a single instance of VLC -- One for Control interface and one for video output.
[20:23] <Flannel> Bllasae: Congratulations
[20:23] <cmo-0> Hello!. I'm trying to add some entries to the binfmt_misc/register mounted in the /proc directory. but i get ' permission denied: /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc/register'. any idea or hint? I've tried googling, and also read the manual. but I couldn't figure out why is it happening!
[20:23] <Bllasae> Flannel: Thanks
[20:23] <MrSour> if i upgrade to jaunty will i retain all my configs? (wifi, prefs, etc)
[20:23] <mobi-sheep> zek: It's a bug and certainly annoying one. :(
[20:23] <Bllasae> One step to making it work better
[20:23] <Bllasae> I guess
[20:23] <Flannel> MrSour: Yes
[20:23] <x2o> th0r, but i dont want it that way
[20:23] <MrSour> ty
[20:23] <Bllasae> which flash do i download?
[20:24] <zek> mobi-sheep: ok. cool
[20:24] <Bllasae> YUM, .tar.gz, .rpm, .deb?
[20:24] <zek> mobi-sheep: that you found a fix,  not that there is a bug
[20:24] <mobi-sheep> zek: When you run vlc, do you get this --> http://www.raiden.net/images/articles/linux_media_players/vlc.png --> Or you get two windows?
[20:24] <wildc4rd> ok, printer is working fine on ubuntu, and the windows box can see it, but I get 'access denied, unable to connect' from the windows box
[20:25] <helper> if i got script i want to run it always run like in script i put if someone ping my server send me email to kad@kad, the scripting wrking fine but where should i put the script so it will always take this action ?
[20:25] <zek> mobi-sheep:  i get that on my windows side.  but i changed some settings on the ubuntu vlc and its 2 windows
[20:25] <zek> mobi-sheep:  im going to get around to changing it back sometime
[20:25] <scunizi> wildc4rd: open System/Admin/Printers and "share" your printer
[20:25] <mobi-sheep> zek: Yes.  If you could call that a fix by suppressing the old version.
[20:25] <wildc4rd> it is
[20:25] <zek> toehio: did that work for you?
[20:25] <mobi-sheep> zek: Actually, that's a bug you got there.  Everybody got it. :)
[20:25] <toehio> zek: Hello, I'm back after a few crashes. On vlc, with x11 it works with and without desktop effects but default doesn't work at all. With totem, it just crashes.
[20:26] <Bllasae> which flash do i download?
[20:26] <Bllasae> YUM, .tar.gz, .rpm, .deb?
[20:26] <cyford> hello can someone help me,  i am having the hardest time installing ubuntu server on a dell 6350 , i have tryed other dell servers and same issue...  it stops at loading files after the disk has been partitioned...   i tryed reburning the cd and same issue as well.   any help will be greatly appreciated
[20:26] <th0r> helper: if you want the script to run at bootup you should install it in /etc/init.d and link it to the proper run level. Google run levels
[20:26] <toehio> zek: funny how totem stopped working after that crash.
[20:26] <helper> th0r, ya i'm in level 5 i just install it and it will run /
[20:26] <zek> toehio: ok, i dont know about anyone else but i never use totem,  it doesnt work well for me and vlc works well enough
[20:27] <TheUndefined> Quite new to linux here and trying to get something to work. When i insert an audio cd, it shows up in the "recently plugged in" devices, but when opening the folder with dolphin, it sais "could not read". Using KDE.
[20:27] <scunizi> wildc4rd: this is something that I've struggled with for a while.. usb printers aren't easily added to windows guests. Google might be your friend there.. I use network printers now.  It eliminates the hassel
[20:27] <Flannel> cyford: Do the CDs pass verification?
[20:27] <ohir> cyford: do you use alternate iso?
[20:27] <zek> toehio: thats good that you got vlc working
[20:27] <zek> toehio: does it still lag?
[20:28] <Bob_Dole> Bllasae, why not get flash from the Repos? add/remove has it, and everything "restricted" bundled in one neat package for you. But if you -must- get it from adobe, get the .deb
[20:28] <cyford> well i burned it monthsa back...  it is 8.10   i am downloading 9.4 now but dont see any changes relating to my issue on the web
[20:28] <RaverWild> hello guys. question - is it normal sendmail daemon to load for 47 seconds on boot time? running jaunty. during every boot everything loads pretty fast except sendmail daemon. right before it mysqld loads. 47secs imho is too much. not 100% sure if it's sendmail or mysqld. any ideas of investigation and speeding up?
[20:28] <Bllasae> thanks
[20:28] <pedro_> e ae pessoal do ubuntu
[20:28] <toehio> zek: i will try opening that file again. It was 6.6GB, which could explain the lag.
[20:29] <zek> toehio: do you have windows?
[20:29] <mobi-sheep> toehio: Are you trying to run BluRay video?
[20:30] <eleite> Anyone worried about that openssh exploit just announced?
[20:30] <ohir> cyford: have you tried _alternate_ install?
[20:30] <zek> eleite: what openssh exploit??
[20:30] <eleite> "flaw"
[20:30] <eleite> Just reading about it now on slash
[20:31] <richard> Richard
[20:31] <richard> sonicomkid?
[20:31] <tanveer> help!
[20:31] <tanveer> how do i install beryl i saw vis of it , but dont no how to use it or install it
[20:31] <toehio> mobi-sheep: it's a 6.6GB H264 video file
[20:31] <mobi-sheep> toehio: Keep in mind -- If you have enough CPU and graphics power, you can play a AVC/H.264 file.
[20:31] <toehio> mobi-sheep: it's basically blue ray
[20:32] <toehio> zek: you think i should go into windows and see if it lags?
[20:32] <mobi-sheep> toehio: Are your machine decent?
[20:32] <wildc4rd> thinking like a windows user scunizi, restarted both PC's, it now works over the network, lol
[20:32] <cyford> no,  is there a network install?
[20:32] <qwark_> hi
[20:32] <sebsebseb> tanveer: with?
[20:32] <Dulak> cyford: there is a net install iso somewhere in there
[20:32] <sebsebseb> qwark_: hi
[20:32] <qazavul> hey
[20:33] <Bob_Dole> cyford: what problem? I had an issue with 8.04-8.10 where if I had my graphics card in my system would lock up -hard- 9.04 fixed it.. so what's your issue?
[20:33] <toehio> mobi-sheep: when i play a 4GB h264 video it runs perfectly. I have 2GB ram, geforce 9600GT and amd 3800. I think it's enough
[20:33] <bob_> hello im having issues with my ubuntu when i try and boot my machiene with ubuntu on it it freezes on the Very first load screen... any  help?
[20:33] <qazavul> is there any thing to do with ubuntu concerning gaming
[20:33] <ohir> !alternate | cyford
[20:33] <fresh_prince> Hello, I am trying to make ffmpeg (without admin priv.), and am getting: cp: preserving permissions for `ffmpeg': Operation not supported \\ cp: preserving ACL for `ffmpeg': Operation not supported   Any ideas ?
[20:33] <tanveer> sebsebseb: i have ubuntu 9.04 i want beryl like vista aero
[20:33] <Bob_Dole> qazavul, Yeah, id(Doom, Quake) has good linux support
[20:33] <zek> toehio: you could try that but i was going to suggest using media player classic.   vlc would lag for me and mpc is pretty much amazing
[20:33] <zek> toehio: at not lagging
[20:34] <toehio> qazavul: get games that are made for linux or get wine to play windows games
[20:34] <qazavul> how do i get them
[20:34] <mobi-sheep> toehio: It's enough.  Try MPC in Windows --> http://forums.boxtorrents.com/index.php?topic=8513.0
[20:34] <richard_> soniccomkid?
[20:34] <toehio> zek: I will try mplayer on ubuntu maybe
[20:34] <Bob_Dole> Epic(Unreal, Unreal Tournament) Isn't too terrible, some free linux games(Tremulous) and WINE has a decent success rate with games
[20:34] <bob_> Anubody know how to fix when u boot it freezes at the main boot screen??........
[20:34] <qazavul> wine cant play any good windows ive tryied all the ones ihave
[20:34] <Bob_Dole> qazavul, WINE plays the very best windows games, I've tried the ones I have.
[20:35] <ra100> hi all
[20:35] <Bob_Dole> *Note: OPINIONs are lung bung-holes, everyone has one.*
[20:35] <ra100> does anybody how to disable antialising for kde4/qt4 applications?
[20:35] <qazavul> ive tried maplestory la tale mabinogi and stuff like that
[20:35] <bob_> anyone?
[20:35] <Bob_Dole> bob_ that can be a hundred different things
[20:35] <ra100> i posted my problem to the ubuntuforums - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7322506#post7322506
[20:35] <Bllasae> Bob_Dole: Not Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri Apparently :(
[20:35] <qwark_> i'm trying to install gpxe onto my usb key using dd if=/bin/gpxe.usb of=/dev/sdb1
[20:36] <toehio> zek: amazing. mplayer has no lag at all. GOOD. Thank you for helping me fix my problem with VLC.
[20:36] <bob_> so what can i do?
[20:36] <sebsebseb> tanveer: Berl was a fork of Compiz Fushion,  and they became one  quite a while ago, so Beryl is no longer made
[20:36] <qwark_> but when i try to boot it doesn't start?!
[20:36] <bob_> \
[20:36] <ra100> but nobody knows
[20:36] <Bob_Dole> Often it's a restricted driver, I had issues with my ATI card making my system unbootable until 9.04 came around.
[20:36] <bob_> no it worked lat night.....
[20:36] <qwark_> and also i cant mount the usb stick after copying gpxe.usb onto the key
[20:36] <sebsebseb> bob_: which screen does it freeze on?
[20:36] <tanveer> i need something like vista aero
[20:36] <ra100> please, anybody heeeeelp
[20:36] <bob_> the very first one
[20:36] <zek> toehio: no problem,  ive gotten more help than ive given when it comes to the ubuntu channel
[20:37] <bob_> when i turn it on
[20:37] <sebsebseb> !compiz |  tanveer
[20:37] <Bob_Dole> tanveer,  I'm sure you don't need it, but look at Compiz Fusion
[20:37] <bob_> this is another computer im using ATM
[20:37] <toehio> zek: yeah, same here. Hopefully we will learn enough to help others  :)
[20:38] <bob_> have no idea? or what
[20:38] <zek> toehio: yeah lol,  if anyone needs help with playerstage for robots ...
[20:38] <tanveer> ffs how do i innstall copmiz fusion then
[20:38] <sebsebseb> !language | tanverr
[20:38] <maniel> Dr_Willis: back with my console resolution problem, the fault was my custom kernel, i mean, update-initramfs isn't adding vesafb, fbcon, softcursor etc modules to its initrd, but it is adding those modules to stock kernels
[20:39] <Bob_Dole> bob_,  "when I turn it on" so before it even gets to GRUB, so before it leaves BIOS, or even gets to BIOS?
[20:39] <maniel> i know you're not supporting custom kernels:D
[20:39] <bob_> on the screen where it shows you can enter the BIOS  express recovery bootmenu or QF lash
[20:40] <maniel> i had blank [i mean black] screen after adding vga= parameter with no vt available, but splash and xorg runs:P
[20:40] <hatter243> tanveer, compiz-fusion is installed by default.
[20:40] <tanveer> how di enable it
[20:40] <tanveer> do i*
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[20:40] <batrakius> cw=Z]MZR}N3PgM|SQM}PIL1QS
[20:40] <FloodBot3> batrakius: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:41] <batrakius> cw=Z]QKM^SPM|P^MBS9JZ
[20:41] <Bob_Dole> ...?
[20:41] <hatter243> System -> Preferences -> Appearance: Visual Effects tab
[20:41] <batrakius> cw=Z]SpNfSpN=Q;NdQ;NdQ;Ki
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[20:41] <eseven73> !ops
[20:41] <FloodBot3> batrakius: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:41] <batrakius> cw=Z]PdNfSpNfQ<NeQ<NeQ<K$Rm
[20:41] <batrakius> cw=Z]Q$NQQ;NdSpNfQ;KIQ;N=R9
[20:41] <sebsebseb> !ops | bastrakius
[20:41] <Flannel> sebsebseb: Usually one suffices.
[20:41] <MartianW> I bough the entire ubuntu repo's on a dvd from a site for Hardy a while back and added them to apt. But it seemed to stop Hardy from detecing updates. I'm buying the new ubuntu now, and I'm wondering whether it's possible to use the dvd repo's and get updates?
[20:41] <sebsebseb> Flannel: indeed
[20:42] <MartianW> Should there be a problem?
[20:42] <Flannel> MartianW: The DVD repos don't really "update" well.  You'd have to be connected to the internet, etc.
[20:42] <Flannel> MartianW: erm, connected (and using) the online repos
[20:43] <MartianW> Flannel, I had internet. But it never detected any updates.
[20:43] <MartianW> And the repo's enabled.
[20:43] <plastun> hi! i use xubuntu 9.04 and 2 ntfs partitions don't mount at startup. This is my options: defaults,rw,user,auto,locale=ru_RU.UTF-8. What's wrong?
[20:43] <ohir> MartianW: there is an option in Synaptic to do such update dvd/usb key for you
[20:43] <Flannel> MartianW: Odd, it should have.  Were you using regular graphical tools, or what?
[20:43] <MartianW> Yeah. So it should work with 9.04?
[20:44] <Bllasae> i has no updates for 9.04?
[20:44] <ohir> MartianW: so if you do not have fast connection you can i.e. do update from work pipe
[20:44] <tecky> Have they fixed the issues w/ a TI-84+ and Ubuntu?
[20:44] <tanveer> how do i find compiz?Z?
[20:44] <MartianW> OK, thanks.
[20:45] <sebsebseb> tanveer: http://www.ubuntuguide.org explains how to install compiz as well as how to do other things
[20:45] <tanveer> howmany sites do i have to go to??
[20:46] <Flannel> tanveer: Compiz is already installed.  You just need to install the manager if you want to tweak it beyond the defaults
[20:46] <Flannel> !ccsm | tanveer
[20:46] <sebsebseb> tanveer: what Flannel said and the site I gave even  explains how to set up the cube
[20:46] <tanveer> ok i get the point
[20:46] <Flannel> sebsebseb: Please don't give out that site.  It contains bad information.
[20:47] <Bllasae> where can i find thunderbird exe on ubuntu
[20:47] <Bllasae> i need to use sendlink, but it asks for other things, so i need to add Thunderbird to the list
[20:47] <Flannel> Bllasae: You'd have to install it, and then it'll be in your menus, under... internet, I believe.
[20:47] <Flannel> Bllasae: Oh, if you've already installed it, go to a terminal, and type which thunderbird"
[20:47] <Flannel> Bllasae: "which thunderbird" and that'll give you a full path
[20:47] <cyford> tanveer
[20:47] <Bllasae> thanks
[20:47] <cyford> are you in atl?
[20:48] <sebsebseb> Flannel: such as?  and since it's offtopic you could pm that or something
[20:48] <LjL> !offtopic
[20:48] <jakobbg> Huh, I get segmentation fault when trying to run smbmount on 9.04x64...
[20:49] <produnis> hello everybody...
[20:49] <Flannel> sebsebseb: It's not offtopic.  That page suggests things we don't endorse, such as setting a root password, etc.
[20:49] <Gigantic_mini> all rite... I don't get it with Ubuntu's grub
[20:49] <Gigantic_mini> all I try fails
[20:49] <sebsebseb> Flannel: oh right I see
[20:49] <produnis> is someone here, who made a firewire-iSIght run with ubuntu?
[20:49] <sebsebseb> Flannel: indeed don't set a root password
[20:49] <Bllasae> thanks a lot Flannel
[20:49] <Gigantic_mini> what?
[20:50] <Gigantic_mini> no root passwd? o.O
[20:50] <richard_> need help big problem
[20:50] <Flannel> Gigantic_mini: what?
[20:50] <R0b`> GRRRRRRR
[20:50] <richard_> me and soncicomkid cant get my desktop gdm to install
[20:50] <R0b`> sry wrong tab
[20:50] <Flannel> Gigantic_mini: Ubuntu uses sudo, not the root account.  The root account is locked.
[20:50] <richard_> anyone else?
[20:50] <richard_> cant get to login page
[20:50] <Gigantic_mini> bad idea
[20:50] <richard_> accidentally removed gdm
[20:51] <richard_> anyone?
[20:51] <produnis> i read, that the firewire-iSight Webcam would run, if coriander and libdc1394 is installed... I apt-get install coriander, and it automatically fetched libdc1394-22 and libraw1394-8
[20:52] <Gigantic_mini> anyways, you can set passwd for root
[20:52] <Gigantic_mini> even if there is none set
[20:52] <produnis> but if I try to start coriander, it says: "libdc1394 error: Failed to initialize libdc1394
[20:52] <produnis> Segmentation fault"
[20:52] <richard_> how to install gdm?
[20:52] <ElemonGW> richard_, apt-get install gdm from tty?
[20:52] <Gigantic_mini> richard_ apt-get install gdm
[20:53] <richard_> tried it a gazillion times
[20:53] <sebsebseb> richard_: you should have it by default if  you got Ubuntu, but  if  you changed to kdm  or  whatever sure the command
[20:53] <richard_> says ob archives missing
[20:53] <sebsebseb> !gdm
[20:53] <Gigantic_mini> dpkg -L gdm
[20:53] <produnis> if I grep|tail  it says "[ 1862.165728] coriander[5177]: segfault at 0 ip b794c3b7 sp bfef7ec0 error 4 in libdc1394.so.22.1.2[b793f000+2c000]"
[20:54] <richard_> tried to remove xorg and some butthole told me to disable gdm
[20:54] <richard_> now it's a total mess
[20:54] <Bob_Dole> Why would you remove xorg?
[20:54] <Bob_Dole> You kind of need it for the graphics
[20:54] <richard_> i purges gdm totally and tried to re-install
[20:55] <infinityxi> richard_: what was your goal in removing xorg, you wanted a server system?
[20:55] <richard_> it was slowing down my pc
[20:55] <Gigantic_mini> richard_ what were you really trying to do from the begining
[20:55] <Bob_Dole> richard_,  GDM isn't going to do a lot of good with no X(xorg) installed
[20:55] <richard_> ok i needed xorg to run compiz
[20:55] <richard_> compix slowed down my pc so i wanted to remove it
[20:55] <Gigantic_mini> richard_ what makes your pc slow is compiz |.| and you dont need gdm for that
[20:55] <Bob_Dole> xorg= your graphics. no x(such as xorg)= CLI only. GDM= relies on graphics
[20:55] <infinityxi> xorg is the graphical environment for your desktop
[20:55] <richard_> bad advice told me to disable gdm
[20:56] <infinityxi> compiz is probably slow because of either your videocard or cpu
[20:56] <Gigantic_mini> richard_ so what, install kdm instead then and tan tan
[20:56] <Gigantic_mini> or xdm, w/e
[20:56] <richard_> anyway my pc needs gdm and me and soniccomkid could not put it back in
[20:56] <Bob_Dole> so, to sum it up, no xorg = no gdm
[20:56] <Gigantic_mini> ^
[20:56] <richard_> ok how to fix/
[20:56] <SonicComKid> It's beyond me how to fix it
[20:56] <Gigantic_mini> apt-get install xorg...
[20:56] <Bob_Dole> re-install xorg.
[20:56] <SonicComKid> xorg? not x11?
[20:57] <richard_> thanks for all your assistance
[20:57] <infinityxi> next time you want to disable compiz just go into the Appearance settings
[20:57] <Bob_Dole> xorg is x11
[20:57] <infinityxi> and just disable it
[20:57] <Bob_Dole> A variant of it
[20:57] <SonicComKid> ah..
[20:57] <richard_> ok thats good for next time but now i need help
[20:57] <SonicComKid> I couldn't for the life of me figure out why it wouldn't let richard reinstall gdm
[20:57] <infinityxi> yeah so now you have Xorg but not gdm installed? what happens when you try to install gdm?
[20:57] <infinityxi> re-install*
[20:58] <richard_> it says i need ob archives
[20:58] <SonicComKid> richard, so type: sudo aptitude install gdm
[20:58] <SonicComKid> not that you have xorg
[20:58] <SonicComKid> now*
[20:58] <Gigantic_mini> could somebody tell me where Ubuntu holds the grub.conf btw
[20:58] <Bob_Dole> What you did is kinda like saying "this pentium is making my computer hot. Lets remove it...Hey, my computer won't turn on!"
[20:58] <Gigantic_mini> I don't see it anywhere
[20:58] <SonicComKid> Gigantic_mini, it's in /boot/grub/
[20:58] <richard_> sudo apptitude install xorg?
[20:58] <Gigantic_mini> nops
[20:58] <SonicComKid> at lleast it should be
[20:59] <Gigantic_mini> neither under /etc and locate doesn't find it
[20:59] <dimedo> hi, how can i add a self-signed x509 cert to be globally trusted by my system?
[20:59] <neoline> trouble managing wireless people..
[20:59] <mannytu> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=435485
[20:59] <Gigantic_mini> ok... well I wanted to give a shot to Ubuntu but I just can't get it to boot...
[20:59] <SonicComKid> richard_, sudo aptitudeinstall xorg     then sudo aptitude install gdm
[20:59] <SonicComKid> sudo aptitude install xorg  **
[21:00] <SonicComKid> stupid space..
[21:00] <mannytu> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=435485
[21:00] <infinityxi> Gigantic_mini: what happens when ubuntu tries to load? what happened?
[21:00] <neoline> when i left click on the wireless icon, everything is disabled except vpn..
[21:00] <Gigantic_mini> I am trying to use a custom grub but I don't get it to work, it doesn't recognize the image... prolly the kernel is corrupted...
[21:01] <richard_> just tried that
[21:01] <Gigantic_mini> ohir, I get error 17 or 18 usually, a 22 a few times... this with Ubuntu's def settings... most times it just freeze with "GRUB..."
[21:02] <neoline> I manually added the IP, but i cant go into roaming mode..
[21:02] <neoline> oh yes, its jaunty..
[21:02] <SonicComKid> Bob_Dole, the reason I suggested him to purge xorg/x11/gdm/compiz is because he followed a FAQ that out right disabled gdm from working right and reinstalling is the easyest solution
[21:02] <SonicComKid> Bob_Dole, it was so bad when he tried to login, it'd briefly show his desktop then bump him to the login screen again
[21:02] <richard_> package xorg had no installation candidate
[21:02] <neoline> trouble managing wireless people.help!
[21:03] <neoline> ubottu
[21:03] <Bob_Dole> There's always the windows way of fixing things, "format and reinstall"
[21:03] <richard_> how?
[21:03] <SonicComKid> Bob_Dole, I told him that solution too, last choice
[21:03] <mannytu> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xorg
[21:03] <neoline> anybody reading me?
[21:03] <Gigantic_mini> or4n, restore from image :)
[21:03] <SonicComKid> richard_, make sure you say people's names. Otherwise you'll go unoticed
[21:03] <Gigantic_mini> partimage FTW
[21:04] <richard_> sorry
[21:04] <ohir> Gigantic_mini: grub config is in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[21:04] <richard_> manny ok
[21:04] <produnis> is someone here, who made a firewire-iSIght run with ubuntu?
[21:04] <produnis> i read, that the firewire-iSight Webcam would run, if coriander and libdc1394 is installed... I apt-get install coriander, and it automatically fetched libdc1394-22 and libraw1394-8
[21:04] <Bob_Dole> I hate how 1 and l have seemingly the exact same character
[21:04] <produnis> but if I try to start coriander, it says: "libdc1394 error: Failed to initialize libdc1394
[21:04] <FloodBot3> produnis: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:04] <produnis> Segmentation fault"
[21:04] <SonicComKid> mannytu, that's the command I suggested to him myself. Only using aptitude instead of apt-get
[21:05] <produnis> if I grep|tail  it says "[ 1862.165728] coriander[5177]: segfault at 0 ip b794c3b7 sp bfef7ec0 error 4 in libdc1394.so.22.1.2[b793f000+2c000]"
[21:05] <Bob_Dole> seg faults suck, and often don't happen on another identical system, for me, at least.
[21:05] <produnis> seems as if lidc1394 won't handshake with coriander on a mac-machine using jaunty
[21:05] <Edico> hi
[21:05] <produnis> hmm.. Bob_Dole, any idea how I could get it to run?
[21:06] <Edico> my system has crashed, where can I see the log?
[21:06] <Bob_Dole> produnis, I'd try it on another machine, see if it does it on more than 1 system.
[21:06] <akuaman> how can i mount my disk drive????????????
[21:06] <Edico> is not in dmesg neither in messages
[21:06] <SonicComKid> I'm still waiting on one of my own problems while helping people. I can't get SAMBA to start, stop, uninstall, nor reinstall
[21:06] <produnis> Bob_Dole, thx, I will try that...
[21:06] <Edico> I never saw a linux crashing untill I met ubuntu
[21:07] <richard_> manny package xorg is not available but is referred to by another package
[21:07] <Bob_Dole> I have 15 computers here, 3 in the RV I live in, more spread around the property.
[21:07] <BlueParrot> Some times when I reboot the system seems to change the permissions of my home directory to 777, which is obviously a BadThing(tm) , is this a known issue ?
[21:07] <UnnamedPlayer> bob_dole, you sound lonely
[21:07] <SonicComKid> Does anyone know how to fix a falty SAMBA that refuses to even be uninstalled?
[21:08] <richard_> unnamed player like in open arena?
[21:08] <SonicComKid> my issue: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7322383#post7322383
[21:08] <neoline> need help connecting to wireless in roaming mode
[21:09] <Bob_Dole> I'm not the only one living here. And I should say I "have access to 15 computers" I only own 12 of them.
[21:09] <paulo39> does anyone know where goes the configuration of thunderbird and the e-mails donwloaded by thunderbird in the system?
[21:09] <grkblood13> i have my mixer going to my mic in port and i can hear myself on my mic when i talk into it without even hitting record on anything but when i try to record in auadicty it gives me latency issues. sound recorder seems to f up as well
[21:09] <grkblood13> can some1 help me figure out why
[21:10] <infinityxi> paulo39: either .thunderbird or .mozilla-thunderbird
[21:10] <gordonjcp> grkblood13: record volume and playback volume are not the same thing
[21:10] <gordonjcp> grkblood13: you might want to ask in #ardour
[21:10] <grkblood13> whats ardour?
[21:11] <boss_mc> grkblood13, you could also ask at #pulseaudio too (if that's what you're using as a mixer...)
[21:11] <gordonjcp> grkblood13: oh sorry, you said audacity
[21:11] <boss_mc> exit
[21:11] <gordonjcp> grkblood13: disregard, I soak cakes
[21:11] <boss_mc> whoops, wrong window...
[21:11] <grkblood13> i believe my default is alsamixer
[21:12] <grkblood13> is it whatever is chosen in my volume control?
[21:12] <boss_mc> if you're using stock interpid or jaunty you're using pulse
[21:13] <plastun> hi! i use xubuntu 9.04 and 2 ntfs partitions don't mount at startup. This is my options: defaults,rw,user,auto,locale=ru_RU.UTF-8. What's wrong?
[21:13] <boss_mc> plastun, try to mount them manually (sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/??? /location)
[21:13] <boss_mc> plastun, it might be that the 'shut down safely' flag is not set...
[21:14] <plastun> boss_mc: manualy it works
[21:14] <plastun> it doesn't works at startup
[21:15] <boss_mc> my options are defaults,locale=en_US.utf8,exec, uuid=1000,gid=1000
[21:15] <boss_mc> no uto
[21:15] <boss_mc> *auto
[21:15] <boss_mc> the exec is because my dev files live there... you might not want it
[21:15] <rigel> hi. i'm running a headless ubuntu server and using vnc to connect to it from my netbook
[21:16] <Bob_Dole> if fstab had swap listed with the /dev/sda5 instead of UUID, it'd just work on all machines after I restore the backup-image with acronis...buuuut nooooo, 3/4 of the machines need me to go in and manually do it to have swap working :/
[21:16] <rigel> i need to add a custom resolution into vino or something so that i can get the screen sized right
[21:16] <rigel> anyone know how to do this?
[21:16] <Artissimo> Can you setup a psudoraid?
[21:17] <Bob_Dole> Oh, and I'm up to a total 39 systems completed and running linux today :D
[21:17] <Artissimo> ie, have an external drive but use that drive to 'expand' your main hdd?
[21:17] <macman_> anyone using jwm window manager ?
[21:17] <Dr_Willis> macman_:  all the time. :)
[21:17] <macman_> haha Dr_Disk
[21:17] <macman_> err . Dr_Willis
[21:18]  * Bob_Dole tried and failed to get JWM working on ubuntu... XFCE needs a full 256MB of RAM to run smoothly @.@
[21:18] <Dr_Willis> Bob_Dole:   You just  need to make a .desktop file for it so GDM can launch it. last i tried... :)
[21:18] <Dr_Willis> Bob_Dole:  or just skip gdm and launch it from .xinitrc
[21:19] <macman_> Dr_Willis, how would you do that ?
[21:19] <helper> i make scripting i put it ini /etc/init.d and make ln to rc5.d and reboot but it didn't load on boot why ?
[21:19] <Dr_Willis> macman_:  find some other desktop file.. like gnome.desktop, copy, rename, edit...
[21:19] <Dr_Willis> macman_:  /usr/share/xsessions/gnome.desktop
[21:19] <SonicComKid> asking yet again.. does anyone here know how to fix a falty SAMBA that won't let me even uninstall it?
[21:19] <Dr_Willis> macman_:  its a little odd/annoying that some window managers dont make a proper .desktop file for gdm. :(
[21:19] <chisefuu> does anyone know if you can launch impress with a looping ppt from the command line?
[21:20] <Bob_Dole> 600mhz Pentium3 Celerons with 256MB of RAM. 39 completed, all with XFCE and Ubuntu 9.04, and 10GB HD's(most have 9.3GB HD's actually, and the original machine had a 9.5GB HD that I made the image with.. so Acronis resizes it. the UUID quits working on Swap, but the rest works..)
[21:20] <Sir-Integra> Has anyone here got the mouse "razer copperhead" and got it working in linux?
[21:21] <Sir-Integra> well, i mean being able to change the sensitivity etc
[21:21] <nunomdc> is there any c++ channel for help?
[21:21] <Sir-Integra> #c++
[21:21] <Dr_Willis> !channels
[21:22] <Bob_Dole> Dr_Willis, I had issues with getting it installed after compiling...and had issues with getting it compiled the first time. Be -really- nice If I didn't have to do that...oh well, too late now, not going to redo all those machines just because I can squeeze a little bit more performance out.
[21:22] <kansan> i'm root.  how do i change the password for a given user (foo)?
[21:23]  * Bob_Dole still new to the whole make/ make install thing... binaries make life easy, perhaps too easy.
[21:23] <Sir-Integra> kansan "passwd foo"
[21:23] <id10t> this is weird... livecd of 9.04 i get dhcp fine
[21:23] <kansan> i'm root.  how do i change the password for a given user (foo)?  if i dont know the current password for the user foo?
[21:23] <Sir-Integra> kansan "passwd foo"
[21:23] <id10t> do a real install, same hardware, no dhcp...
[21:23] <Dr_Willis> Bob_Dole:  compiling jwm? Hmm.. never really noticed any problems..  but this is linux.. do what you want. :)
[21:23] <kansan> Sir-Integra, what if i dont remember the password for foo
[21:23] <Sir-Integra> ...
[21:23] <Dr_Willis> kansan:  you are root.. it dosent matter. :)
[21:23] <Sir-Integra> you don't need to know the password for foo.
[21:23] <Dr_Willis> kansan:  you will change it..
[21:23] <kansan> ok
[21:24] <id10t> this is weird... livecd of 9.04 i get dhcp fine.  do a real install on same machine, no dhcp addy on boot... ifconfig reports card is up and configured, but it doesn't show an addy. dhclient will let it grab an addy though... any idea on fix?
[21:24] <Artissimo> 'sudo apt-get vim'
[21:24] <Artissimo> E: invalid operation
[21:24] <Artissimo> Wtf?
[21:24] <id10t> Artissimo: apt-get install vim
[21:25] <Artissimo> ty
[21:25] <id10t> np
[21:25] <Slart> Artissimo: normally you write sudo apt-get install.. that's the f
[21:26] <Chr|s> how do I get the transparent look on gnome panels using emerald?
[21:26] <Bob_Dole> Artissimo, if I pointed at you and said "Airplane" what would you think I was telling you to do? same idea with apt-get there "do what with vim?"
[21:27] <Slart> Chr|s: right click on them, select properties.. select the tab Background.. I think you'll find it from there
[21:27] <Lunar_Lamp> I'm using iptables on a box with ufw installed.  I want to have the rules persistent between reboots.  How can I do this without writing my own scripted frontend to iptables-save and iptables-restore?
[21:27] <Bob_Dole> most commands that say invalid are that way "do what with this?"
[21:27] <Chr|s> that doest work completely
[21:27] <helper> i make scripting i put it ini /etc/init.d and make ln to rc5.d and reboot but it didn't load on boot why ?
[21:27] <oobogart> anyone here use ktorrent or other such client with an ipfilter plugin?
[21:28] <id10t> helper: default runlevel in ubuntu is 2
[21:28] <boss_mc> helper, use update-rc.d to change startup scripts
[21:28] <felix_> !pastebin
[21:30] <helper> boss_mc,  update-rc.d script ?
[21:30] <saveas> hello
[21:30] <boss_mc> man update-rc.d
[21:30] <helper> id10t, i though runlevel 5 is default... if 2 default then 5 what>?
[21:30] <boss_mc> basically it sorts out the linking, nameing and placing of startup scripts
[21:30] <Slart> helper: I think ubuntu does it differently.. for some reason
[21:30] <Slart> !runlevel
[21:31] <id10t> helper: 2 is the default, you can of course change it if you like, but you can just re-do your symlink into rc2.d and it should work the way you wanted
[21:31] <Slart> !runlevels
[21:31] <boss_mc> runlevel 5 is multiuser
[21:31] <Dr_Willis> !upstart
[21:31] <tsimpson> boss_mc: 2-5 is multi-user
[21:31] <boss_mc> hmmm
[21:31] <boss_mc> seems so
[21:31] <Dr_Willis> runlevel 2 and runlevel 5 do same things last i tried.
[21:32] <boss_mc> I was reading the debian page.... bad boss_mc
[21:32] <boss_mc> :)
[21:32] <helper> :(
[21:32] <helper> maybe 3?
[21:32] <id10t> by default 2 and 5 do the same... but your system is booting to 2. so if you want that script to run, you have to link it into rc2.d ... or change the default runlevel to 5
[21:32] <FrenchTom> how do I hack hotmail
[21:32] <Dr_Willis> debian does not use upstart. (last i looked)
[21:32] <tsimpson> helper: 2 to 5 are the same by default
[21:32] <Dr_Willis> FrenchTom:  with an axe?
[21:32] <FrenchTom> :D
[21:33] <FrenchTom> ax hacks wee
[21:33] <Slart> !illegal
[21:33] <helper> LOOOL
[21:33] <Bob_Dole> how do I see what version of Flash I have?
[21:33] <helper> ok thx id10t and tsimpson
[21:33] <boss_mc> Bob_Dole, about:plugins in firefox
[21:33] <id10t> Bob_Dole: in firefox, do about:plugins in the location bar
[21:33] <helper> id10t, how to change runlevel default to 5?
[21:34] <Bob_Dole> legally questionable? How about whaling in Nebraska?
[21:34] <boss_mc> helper, why do you want to?
[21:34] <unko0> hey can someone please help me comile somthing. it's a upgrade for my router. but i have no clue how to do it..
[21:34] <helper> boss_mc, not for use just learning out :)
[21:34] <guntbert> !compile | unko0
[21:34] <KenBW2> I'm getting this when opening wammu and it's not opening: http://www.nomorepasting.com/getpaste.php?pasteid=26496
[21:34] <boss_mc> helper, good plan, I will listen and learn too!
[21:34] <tsimpson> helper: you'd need to edit /etc/event.d/rc-default
[21:35] <unko0> guntbert, no.. i need someone else to do it
[21:35] <boss_mc> hmmm, good learning
[21:35] <tsimpson> helper: replacing "telinit 2" with "telinit 5"
[21:35] <helper> tsimpson, thx alot :)
[21:36] <guntbert> unko0: this channel is mainly about learning to do things yourself...
[21:36] <Dr_Willis> compile an upgrade for a router? thats a scary idea
[21:36] <boss_mc> unko0, are you sure it needs compilation?
[21:37] <KenBW2> I'm getting this when opening wammu and it's not opening: http://www.nomorepasting.com/getpaste.php?pasteid=26496
[21:37] <iratik> I've been trying to get desktop effects to be enabled with an nvidia card. When i open up the hardware drivers applet, i do not see any drivers to enable. This is ubuntu 8.10
[21:37] <boss_mc> !o4o > boss_mc
[21:37] <guntbert> unko0: are you sure its on topic *here* ?
[21:37] <unko0> nevermind i gotta friend to do it for me
[21:40] <helper> tsimpson, if ubuntu on shutdown -h 0 or poweroff or when i press using GUI shutdown it make restart! is problem which runlevel ?
[21:41] <Bizzeh> hi, i have just installed ubuntu server 8.04 and i was wondering if there was any way to set the power profile to "ondemand"
[21:41] <FrenchTom> Job? who's this job person?
[21:41] <Chr|s> how can i delete the default panel in ubuntu?
[21:42] <boss_mc> Chr|s, right click, click remove...
[21:42] <Chr|s> boss_mc: not the top panel, you can't do that
[21:42] <boss_mc> Chr|s, really? I can...
[21:43] <Chr|s> boss_mc: yeah I can't for some reason its greyed out
[21:43] <Slart> I think ubuntu for some reason wants at least one panel running
[21:43] <Soren1> what happens to Ubuntu if you need to Re-install XP...................... do you need to then Re-install Ubuntu?
[21:43] <cr0mulent> d
[21:43] <Slart> Soren1: nope.. you might have to redo the grub thingy though
[21:44] <Slart> !grub | Soren1, check the "Lost grub after installing windows"-link
[21:44] <Atronic> you can disable the top panel from starting..ive done it before but i dont recommend it since it casues problems
[21:44] <Atronic> does*
[21:44] <olmari> Simple Q: Does Ubuntu default kernel support "tarpit" as in iptables rule?
[21:45] <Soren1> Slart: so it acts as if Ubuntu was installed first and then XP?
[21:46] <Slart> Soren1: that's my guess, yes
[21:46]  * Soren1 cries
[21:46] <Soren1> the Ubuntu and then XP install is supposed to be more difficult
[21:46] <coimbra> oi
[21:47] <coimbra> br?
[21:47] <Slart> Soren1: it's really not that bad.. you have to boot from a live cd and run one or two commands in a terminal and you're done
[21:47] <Slart> !br
[21:48] <Soren1> Slart: ok, ty
[21:48] <xyzzymaze> greetings to all ..
[21:49] <xyzzymaze> I need to upgrade just HDD and memory .. Can i just 'tar up the whole system', install hardware, partition to my liking, then lay the tar file back down at "/" ?  I would think it should work, since no drivers are really being disturbed .. thoughts? <thanks>
[21:49] <jerycha> Yo!
[21:49] <Bob_Dole> So, I'm trying to connect to something with flash...an "mmo" thing. But the connection fails -everytime- and doesn't fail for others god-knows-where that are using windows. I want to play this game, I don't want windows, even in a VM to be able to play it...
[21:49] <Bob_Dole> is there something that might prevent me from making a connection through flash somewhere?
[21:49] <Dr_Willis> xyzzymaze:  your UUID's would be all different..
[21:50] <Bob_Dole> UUIDs are annoying
[21:50] <Dr_Willis> Bob_Dole:  untill they save you a lot of hassle...
[21:50] <Dr_Willis> :)
[21:50] <Dr_Willis> and they have...
[21:50] <Bob_Dole> So far they've only caused hassle
[21:50] <Soren1> lol
[21:50] <xyzzymaze> Bob_Dole: ah ...  I see .. didn't think of the UUID's ..
[21:50] <yomm> I(m having troubles getting my connectix quickcam to work in 9.04 , it worked fine out of the box on 8.** any hints ?
[21:50] <olmari> xyzzymaze: why tar? attach both HDDs and use "dd"
[21:50] <Dr_Willis> hard drives jumping around from sdd to sde to sdz is annoying.
[21:50] <xyzzymaze> Bob_Dole: well , it's a laptop and has a tiny 1.8" drive ...
[21:51] <Dr_Willis> xyzzymaze:  netbook? :)
[21:51] <Bob_Dole> Hard drives resizing from 9.5gb to 9.3GB and then not having swap with only 256MB of RAM because the UUID doesn't match anymore...
[21:51] <xyzzymaze> Bob_Dole: might be able to connect an external drive and do it that way ... Dell D420, came out before Netbooks
[21:51] <david_> Hi.
[21:51] <olmari> xyzzymaze: but you'lll also have to edit fstab as it uses UUID as harddrive identification
[21:51] <xyzzymaze> Bob_Dole: but that's what it is, really ...
[21:51] <david_> Does anyone here use Ubuntu on a PlayStation 3?
[21:51]  * Dr_Willis changes the uuid's to be 0000-00000-00001
[21:51] <Dr_Willis> !ps3
[21:52] <xyzzymaze> olmari: yes, just realized that ...
[21:52] <Dr_Willis> !ppc
[21:52] <david_> Thank you.
[21:52] <zek> real quick question.  does anyone know if there is an easy way of having vlc show superimpose the previous frames on the current frame in a video?
[21:53] <slinkp> upgrade to 9.04 hangs  on setting up foomatic-db-engine... any advice?
[21:53] <AlphaWaves> hello
[21:53] <zek> i dont need to use vlc if there is a program that would do that easier
[21:53] <olmari> xyzzymaze: I think best opton you would have is to have some way to attach new harddrive to USB converted and just dd whole hd to next
[21:53] <AlphaWaves> i have a startup problem with 9.04
[21:54] <olmari> xyzzymaze: and then edit  fstab
[21:54] <AlphaWaves> it says at load up : modprobe: FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.../modules.dep : no such file or directory
[21:54] <olmari> xyzzymaze: I have an converted that converts basically any sata/3.5/2.5 to usb :)
[21:54] <AlphaWaves> can you help me?
[21:55] <xyzzymaze> olmari: ah, that would def be a solution .. My fav tool is just dd the drive from one to the next .. I use dcfldd , but no matter..
[21:55] <UnnamedPlayer> Ati guy back
[21:55] <bmwerks> how can i remove a usb startup installation from my jump drive?
[21:55] <Artissimo> Can I setup samba to be accesible from wan?
[21:56] <yoni> Hey all, I'm new to Ubuntu Jaunty
[21:56] <UnnamedPlayer> My Nexuiz has gone to hell since a frsh install.
[21:56] <yoni> Is it by default have a firewall application installed and configured?
[21:56] <Dr_Willis> Artissimo:  accessing a samba share from over the internet You mean?
[21:56] <UnnamedPlayer> It worked fine before.
[21:56] <myxo> test
[21:56] <Artissimo> Dr_Willis:
[21:56] <Artissimo> yes
[21:56] <Dr_Willis> Artissimo:  tats definatly not save.
[21:56] <Dr_Willis> safe
[21:56] <myxo> hey guys, just installed x-chat for the first time.. new user to Linux here, am i in the right place?
[21:56] <Dr_Willis> thats what vpns re made for
[21:56] <UnnamedPlayer> Nobody is even listening to me since my talking isn't directed at anyone.
[21:56] <Artissimo> Dr_Willis: even with a password?
[21:56] <SonicComKid> anyone here yet familar with fixing a faulty SAMBA? I can't uninstall/reinstall it, nor even stop the service
[21:56] <olmari> xyzzymaze: that converted didn't even cost much... some 30€ MAX
[21:57] <UnnamedPlayer> myxo in comparrison to what?
[21:57] <Dulak> UnnamedPlayer: my nexuiz plays like ass when I have compiz enabled, I turn off desktop effects when I'm gonna play
[21:57] <mobi-sheep> !hi | myxo
[21:57]  * slinkp considers holding down the power button...eek
[21:57] <UnnamedPlayer> Dulak, have done and nothing.
[21:57] <slinkp> sudo is hanging. this can't be good.
[21:57] <mzz> slinkp: um, why?
[21:57] <Dulak> UnnamedPlayer: it was worth a try
[21:57] <xyzzymaze> olmari: cool .. I'll look for that, it would be easier than reinstall .. I got it all the way I like it! ;)
[21:57] <myxo> thank you for the welcome, Unnamed. what do you mean "in comparison to what"?
[21:57] <mzz> slinkp: wild guess: you ran out of free hd space?
[21:57] <Artissimo> dr_willis : even with a username / apssword?
[21:57] <UnnamedPlayer> You asked if you were in the right place.
[21:57] <myxo> I assume I am
[21:58] <myxo> no one has threatened to shiv me yet
[21:58] <AlphaWaves> hey no help?
[21:58]  * UnnamedPlayer shivs myxo
[21:58] <myxo> oh darn.
[21:58] <Bizzeh> i have just installed ubuntu server 8.04 and i was wondering if there was any way to set the power profile to "ondemand"
[21:58] <slinkp> mzz: checking... nope... 1.5G free on /,  80G free on /home
[21:58] <UnnamedPlayer> lol
[21:58] <mzz> slinkp: mmm, odd. Ask the channel though, haven't done any upgrading.
[21:58] <UnnamedPlayer> Okie so Nexuiz worked fine before I reinstalled my system
[21:58] <boss_mc> SonicComKid, just killall -9 nmdb smbd
[21:58] <Dulak> myxo: a geek would never threaten to do it first, they'd just do it
[21:58] <slinkp> mzz: well, yeahh that's why i'm here :-(
[21:59] <boss_mc> will stop the service
[21:59] <slinkp> mzz: thx anyway
[21:59] <boss_mc> agressively
[21:59] <UnnamedPlayer> I was running Hardy Heron with 2.5
[21:59] <myxo> Well I am just looking for a place where I can come to ask basic questions, why is the sky blue, why when I type this command my computer moans like a weasel, why don't people google before they ask questions, things like that.
[21:59] <UnnamedPlayer> Nexuiz 2.5
[21:59] <SonicComKid> boss_mc, okay, but things like pkill resulted in a freeze
[21:59] <UnnamedPlayer> I installed Jaunty Jackelope with Nexuiz 2.5.1 and everything has gone to crap
[21:59] <Dulak> UnnamedPlayer: you could try using an older version of the video driver for your card maybe
[21:59] <myxo> Dulak, noted.
[21:59] <mzz> myxo: as long as they involve ubuntu they're usually fine here. So the "computer moans like a weasel" one would work as long as the computer's running ubuntu, the "sky blue" one wouldn't
[22:00] <slinkp> Upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04 seems hung... sudo in console seems to hang... any suggestions?
[22:00] <UnnamedPlayer> That's the other thing, with Hardy Heron I had restricted drivers for my graphics, and now it's not restricted
[22:00] <slinkp> other than "force reboot and start from scratch" that is ...
[22:00] <myxo> I'm pretty sure the sky is blue because of Ubuntu, the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence!
[22:00] <SonicComKid> boss_mc, results in a freeze
[22:00] <boss_mc> slinkp df -h in terminal to make sure you've got disk space
[22:00] <mzz> heh
[22:00] <slinkp> boss_mc: confirmed.  mzz alredy suggested that :)
[22:00] <mzz> slinkp: check dmesg for scary messages while you're at it
[22:01] <Demonicdata> hey how do i setup quake terminal to run at startup/login?
[22:01] <Demonicdata> and firestarter for that matter
[22:01] <slinkp> mzz: does a general protection fault count as scary? :-O
[22:01] <mzz> myxo: just stay on the channel and include the nick of the person you're talking to
[22:01] <boss_mc> SonicComKid, can you remove S20samba from /etc/rcX.d
 That's the other thing, with Hardy Heron I had restricted drivers for my graphics, and now it's not restricted
[22:01] <boss_mc> SonicComKid, where X is 2, 3, 4
[22:01] <mzz> slinkp: probably. Can you still pastebin it or is it too far gone for that?
[22:01] <bmwerks> how can i remove a usb startup installation from my jump drive?
[22:01] <SonicComKid> boss_mc, I evit to edit each one?
[22:01] <mzz> UnnamedPlayer: ati?
[22:02] <UnnamedPlayer> Yeah
[22:02] <yomm> demonicadata -> system -> preferences -> startup applications
[22:02] <myxo> oh so any message that contains my name turns red? mzz
[22:02] <mobi-sheep> !startup | Demonicdata
[22:02] <boss_mc> SonicComKid, yeah, they are the startup services
[22:02] <Haze420> Would anybody know how to setup a "BCM4318 [Airforce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller" within "Ubuntu 9.04". I've have installed a fresh installation and it seems that the wireless card does not automatically install which in turns leaves my with no internet access unless I bounce back in Windows 7.. :/
[22:02] <mzz> myxo: most likely.
[22:02] <myxo> oh thanks.
[22:02] <UnnamedPlayer> mzz: yeah I've got ATI
[22:02] <boss_mc> SonicComKid, if it's not there, the service won't start on next reboot
[22:02] <SonicComKid> boss_mc, okay I'll try giving that a shot
[22:02] <mzz> UnnamedPlayer: jaunty has xserver 1.6. You would need the very latest fglrx (proprietary) drivers to work with that, and fglrx intentionally dropped support for any card that has somewhat decent support using open drivers.
[22:02] <boss_mc> SonicComKid, making it a lot easier to fix... (he says hopefully...)
[22:03] <SonicComKid> boss_mc, no idea what broke it, but NOTHING works, I can't remove it with aptitude, not kill the process, squat
[22:03] <Demonicdata> Thanks
[22:03] <piotr1955> helo
[22:03] <UnnamedPlayer> mzz: So what can I do?
[22:03] <SonicComKid> boss_mc, have to restart it, ran out of consoles, but a moment
[22:03] <mzz> UnnamedPlayer: so many folks with ati can no longer use the proprietary driver without downgrading to xserver 1.5 (which I suspect is not sanely possible in jaunty, but I haven't tried)
[22:03] <boss_mc> SonicComKid, adios!
[22:03] <myxo> Is anti-virus software a concern at all for me on a Ubuntu system? It seems to be a relatively lax issue with the people who pointed me to the OS.
[22:03] <mzz> UnnamedPlayer: the open driver *should* be rapidly catching up with the closed one performance-wise.
[22:03] <UnnamedPlayer> mzz: I'm willing to try, can you let me in on how?
[22:04] <mobi-sheep> myxo: No.
[22:04] <mzz> UnnamedPlayer: tbh if I absolutely had to use the proprietary driver I'd downgrade to intrepid
[22:04] <boss_mc> myxo, if you're intending on sharing files with windows users (you care about...) I'd advise an antivirus for their sake
[22:04] <mzz> UnnamedPlayer: (iirc that one has an xserver one-before-latest fglrx runs in)
[22:04] <SonicComKid> boss_mc, should I outright delete it, or just rename it?
[22:04] <slinkp> mzz: can't seem to start firefox on that box :(
[22:04] <mzz> UnnamedPlayer: err, reinstall intrepid, downgrading is unsupported.
[22:04] <SonicComKid> boss_mc, or move it for that matter
[22:04] <myxo> Ah yea boss_mc . my friend did mention that
[22:04] <boss_mc> SonicComKid, delete it
[22:04] <mzz> slinkp: I'd say "use pastebinit" but if you can't sudo you can't install that :(
[22:04] <SonicComKid> okay
[22:04] <boss_mc> SonicComKid, it's easy to replace
[22:04] <mobi-sheep> myxo: Let me find you a good link.
[22:04] <pauljr> can I post a link to my post on ubuntu forums?
[22:05] <UnnamedPlayer> I by-passed Intrepid.
[22:05] <UnnamedPlayer> It gave too many problems with Nexuiz
[22:05] <mzz> UnnamedPlayer: I may be wrong though, I have not actually looked for an xserver 1.5 built for jaunty.
[22:05] <RaverWild> hello guys. question - is it normal sendmail daemon to load for 47 seconds on boot time? running jaunty. during every boot everything loads pretty fast except sendmail daemon. right before it mysqld loads. 47secs imho is too much. not 100% sure if it's sendmail or mysqld. any ideas of investigation and speeding up?
[22:05] <SonicComKid> boss_mc, there's a K19samba in rc1.d, delete it?
[22:05] <Mack> ray
[22:05] <mobi-sheep> myxo: This is worth a read on Ubuntu Security --> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/security
[22:05] <Mack> raylu: ok, godfather in garageband is now complete
[22:05] <boss_mc> SonicComKid, that won't matter, it will have no effect
[22:05] <mzz> UnnamedPlayer: also, I'm just assuming you're using a card no longer supported by fglrx, you may want to check.
[22:05] <boss_mc> SonicComKid, you can if you want
[22:05] <slinkp> mzz: seems like some shared lib problem ... i can't start any program that wasn't running when this problem started
[22:05] <SonicComKid> boss_mc, okay, so only S20
[22:05] <myxo> thanks mobi-sheep
[22:05] <boss_mc> SonicComKid,
[22:05] <mzz> UnnamedPlayer: see the relnotes linked from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fglrx
[22:06] <jefinc> my wireless does not show up in the gnome-network manager
[22:06] <owen1_> how to change the keyboard layout from dvorak to regular?
[22:06] <boss_mc> SonicComKid, yes, the S??name files are the services to start (in the order of theor numbers) on boot
[22:06] <UnnamedPlayer> mzz: Ummm......kinda  a noob when it comes to linux
[22:06] <owen1_> xorg.conf have this line: # commented out by update-manager, HAL is now used
[22:06] <boss_mc> SonicComKid, so if the files not there, it won't start samba
[22:06] <pauljr> only since reboot, when I go to fullscreen in xawtv it goes to a 640 res and I can see the entire picture by moving the cursor around it, though this is only since a reboot!
[22:07] <mzz> UnnamedPlayer: this is more of a "you know your hardware much better than I do" thing.
[22:07] <myxo> Right now I am mostly interested in learning to use the terminal, I have had great fun with the few commands I know, navigating the strange Linux file system and loving "sudo apt-get install/remove <name>"
[22:07] <trox> Hi all, I am trying to open the P2P program ANtsP2P, but when I do, I get the following errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/177444/.  Anyone familiar with this?
[22:07] <UnnamedPlayer> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 [Radeon Xpress 200G Series]
[22:07] <jefinc> I am running a macbook pro and have gone through the steps with the broadcom driver, the wireless adapter shows up in the list after doing; lspci but it does not show in the network manager, any suggestions?
[22:07] <UnnamedPlayer> Thats as much as I know....
[22:07] <mzz> UnnamedPlayer: notice the "last release to support pre X2xxx (pre DirectX10) Cards" thing for version 9.3. If you follow the "release notes" links for 9.3 and 9.4 you should find a list of supported cards.
[22:07] <boss_mc> myxo, learn the filesystem, it will make you more efficient in the long run
[22:08] <SonicComKid> boss_mc, okay, got them all. Only ones that didn't have a S20samba was rc1.d and rc6.d
[22:08] <boss_mc> myxo, e.g. /usr/bin for executables, /usr/lib for libraries
[22:08] <UnnamedPlayer> mzz: I'm pretty sure it's integrated currently
[22:08] <boss_mc> SonicComKid, ok, sounds good, try rebooting the computer now, samba should not start
[22:08] <Soren1> does ubuntu need to be told when you plug in a USB mouse in order for the mouse to work
[22:08] <SonicComKid> so try an aptitude remove attempt?
[22:08] <yomm> 25
[22:08] <SonicComKid> boss_mc, so try an aptitude remove attempt now?
[22:08] <she_dyed> jefin try iwconfig to see if it listed anything new
[22:08] <yomm> sry wrong window
[22:09] <Soren1> lol
[22:09] <she_dyed> jefinc,  try iwconfig to see if it listed anything new
[22:09] <caktus> Hi everybody.. I've been looking throughout some forums and wikis, but I
[22:09] <UnnamedPlayer> mzz: could we pm for a sec, or is that not possible with x-IRC?
[22:09] <boss_mc> SonicComKid, have you rebooted?
[22:09] <mzz> UnnamedPlayer: yeah, if I read the relnotes right that's no longer supported by fglrx 9.4 and up, which you'd need for xserver 1.6. So stick with the open drivers or get an older xserver somehow.
[22:09] <myxo> boss_mc i have picked up on the bin for binary. like executables? and i'm not sure exactly what libraries are for outside of scripting languages in windows like AutoIt... is it a related term?
[22:09] <boss_mc> Soren1, nope, should notice
[22:09] <SonicComKid> boss_mc, I typed sudo shutdown -r now   but... it doesn't seem like it did as aptitude says there's still a pckage manager running
[22:09] <mzz> UnnamedPlayer: possible, yes, desirable, no
[22:10] <yomm> Sorenl : con't forget to say please :)
[22:10] <Soren1> boss_mc: it didn't
[22:10] <SonicComKid> boss_mc, brb, I'm going to manually kill this stupiid machine
[22:10] <Haze420> Need some help setting up my laptops wireless network card within Ubuntu v9.04, if you can help please send me a PM. Thx.
[22:10] <jefinc> she_dyed: it says no wireless extentions
[22:10] <mzz> !pm | UnnamedPlayer
[22:10] <Soren1> boss_mc: this is the LiveCD though, IDK if that matters
[22:10] <mzz> UnnamedPlayer: I'm not in the "find it rude" camp but I agree with the rest of it, plus it's more convenient for me, and I'm the one giving help so I get to be picky :P
[22:11] <UnnamedPlayer> How would one go about getting an older xserver without reverting back to something like intrepid?
[22:11] <boss_mc> Soren1, it shouldn't, HAL should notice it and load the default mouse drivers...
[22:11] <boss_mc> Soren1, you could check dmesg before and after you plug in the mouse for any errors
[22:11] <Soren1> boss_mc: HAL miust be busy opening up the Pod Bay Doors, ;) lol
[22:11] <dreamy> does enlightenement 16 comes with a task bar ? i got none :S
[22:12] <Soren1> boss_mc: IDK how to check that
[22:12] <caktus> {sorry} but I am not entirely sure, what am I looking for... I'm running live usb linux to some recovery from dead vistas, but I don't have any external hdd . So I would just like to reorganize the files among the partitions before reinstalling and formatting C:, however, in a default mode the live-USB are read only... how can I change it?
[22:12] <boss_mc> myxo, libraries are collections of useful functions that other programs can use
[22:12] <boss_mc> Soren1, can you open a terminal?
[22:12] <boss_mc> myxo, they're like dlls in windows
[22:12] <EugenMayer> are there any SIP clients which are integrating with gnome ( contacts) ?
[22:12] <myxo> ah ok boss_mc
[22:12] <she_dyed> dreamy, you can enable one with the config menu i think
[22:13] <Soren1> boss_mc: terminal is now open
[22:13] <boss_mc> Soren1, pull out the mouse
[22:13] <SonicComKid> boss_mc, success, was able to finally remove samba
[22:13] <dreamy> she_dyed: can i run that from a terminal ? i checked and double checked all the menus :S
[22:13] <UnnamedPlayer> mmz: I did ask in the channel. You're the only one it seems can help
[22:13] <owen1_> how to change the keyboard layout from dvorak to regular?
[22:13] <boss_mc> type dmesg
[22:13] <Soren1> out
[22:13] <boss_mc> plug it in,
[22:13] <dreamy> all the menu options
[22:13] <boss_mc> type dmesg
[22:13] <boss_mc> (pressing enter after each...)
[22:13] <boss_mc> and see if there are any messages that look bad
[22:13] <SonicComKid> boss_mc, reinstalling samba
[22:13] <she_dyed> dreamy there is a left click menu, a right click and does your mouse have a third button (middle)
[22:14] <boss_mc> SonicComKid, good news! now purge it, purge it hard
[22:14] <mzz> owen1_: use your favorite graphical xkb utility, or run "setxkbmap -layout us" (the latter is probably not permanent)
[22:14] <Soren1> !pastebin
[22:14] <SonicComKid> boss_mc, samba is fully functional again
[22:14] <boss_mc> myxo, config files live either in ~/.programname/ (for user specific options) or in /etc (for system wide)
[22:14] <boss_mc> SonicComKid, good
[22:15] <mzz> owen1_: (but you know you want to use dvorak :)
[22:15] <SonicComKid> boss_mc, any idea what would case a completely idle server to suddenly have samba so badly messed up?
[22:15] <boss_mc> SonicComKid, wonder what you did to it...?
[22:15] <SonicComKid> boss_mc, that's what I want to know
[22:15] <nijm> Whats a good way to see all the streams in a dvd with their hex stream numbers?
[22:15] <nijm> e.g., 0xE0 for the main video etc.
[22:15] <dreamy> she_dyed: yes:) ..ive  been checking all options there :)
[22:15] <SonicComKid> boss_mc, the ONLY command I did on the server since I last used SAMBA as normal was 'sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop'
[22:15] <raylu> nijm: mplayer -identify
[22:15] <boss_mc> SonicComKid, check those S20samba files were re-created successfully
[22:15] <she_dyed> nijm i dunno man all I see is blond brunette redhead
[22:16] <nijm> she_dyed, haha
[22:16] <owen1_> mzz: it's for a non-dvorak friend
[22:16] <she_dyed> dreamy the dragbar on top, see if you minimize a terminal if it winds up there
[22:16] <boss_mc> SonicComKid, I've not used apache on ubuntu so I can't tell you if that could have caused a screwup
[22:16] <SonicComKid> boss_mc, no.. it didn't rebuild the rc files... I'll purge it then.. the only config I have for SAMBA was a minor one
[22:16] <dreamy> she_dyed: nope
[22:16] <boss_mc> SonicComKid, or just recreate them
[22:16] <owen1_> mzz: i'll try the setxkbmap option. how to make it permanent?
[22:16] <dreamy> she_dyed: goes into a icon box
[22:17] <boss_mc> they are symboli links to /etc/init.d/samba
[22:17] <boss_mc> *symbolic
[22:17] <SonicComKid> boss_mc, be easier to purge just to make sure
[22:17] <she_dyed> dreamy, iirc e has never had a tray, and people have used apps like stalone to do the job
[22:17] <mzz> owen1_: that depends on what's setting it to dvorak in the first place. I'm a bit surprised if that's hal, it's much more common for it to be gnome-settings-daemon or the like (your desktop env, so use its keyboard utility to change it)
[22:17] <raylu> owen1_, mzz: system > prefs > keyboard, i thought
[22:17] <boss_mc> SonicComKid, even that might no work, as they are in an unusual situation
[22:17] <SonicComKid> boss_mc, only file I need to protect is smb.conf
[22:17] <mzz> owen1_: yeah, what raylu said if you're using gnome.
[22:17] <boss_mc> true
[22:18] <she_dyed> dreamy, iow its an add-on most of the time, have you tried the elive CD? there is a demo of e16 there
[22:18] <Soren1> boss_mc: http://paste.ubuntu.com/177448/
[22:18] <boss_mc> SonicComKid, just back that up, purge and reinstall
[22:18] <owen1_> mzz: raylu i use awesome window manager, no gnome/kde
[22:18] <mzz> owen1_: (or it can be setxkbmap in your .xsessionrc or the like, but you'd know about that)
[22:18] <owen1_> mzz: raylu it's terminal-based ubuntu
[22:18] <sidh> i feel disapointed : i've chosen alternate cd for having the choice of not install grub on MBR (i've made an install of 3 OS before ubuntu without touching the mbr)
[22:18] <mzz> owen1_: output of "lshal|grep xkb"?
[22:18] <sidh> while the ubuntu installation
[22:18] <raylu> owen1_: gnome-keyboard and let tab-completion figure it out :D
[22:18] <dreamy> she_dyed: i was just thinking that.. install some add on :S :S .. ?
[22:18] <raylu> owen1_: oh, wait, no gnome...
[22:18] <dreamy> *i could install some addon
[22:18] <SonicComKid> boss_mc, already on it. Thanks
[22:18] <mzz> sidh: this *is* possible but it was not particularly obvious
[22:18] <raylu> owen1_: are you using gnome-settings daemon?
[22:19] <sidh> it never asked me whether or not install grub on mbr
[22:19] <iratik> I've been trying to get desktop effects to be enabled with an nvidia card. When i open up the hardware drivers applet, i do not see any drivers to enable. This is ubuntu 8.10 I've been crawling forums for days, i've already gone back to 8.10 after being so unsuccesful with 9.04 (recompiled kernel, installed sid drivers etc... no luck). I'm trying to do this from the n00b
[22:19] <Soren1> raylu, hi
[22:19] <sidh> NEVER
[22:19] <iratik> ''s point of view, so i haven't edited xorg.conf
[22:19] <boss_mc> SonicComKid, check it installs them after
[22:19] <sidh> in fact it acts like windows
[22:19] <raylu> Soren1: hi
[22:19] <mzz> sidh: I forgot exactly what I had to do, but basically hit "no! don't do that! abort!" a couple of times until I got a list of installer steps, then pointed it to the one right after the mbr
[22:19] <sidh> whatever it is installed before
[22:19] <owen1_> raylu: i don't know
[22:19] <boss_mc> SonicComKid, it might fail because some (the K ones) are already there..
[22:19] <SonicComKid> boss_mc, it remade the rc2.d file, along with the others
[22:19] <raylu> owen1_: pgrep -l gnome
[22:19] <she_dyed> dreamy the disadvantage is it might not pick up themed stuff so it may be slightly awkward looking
[22:19] <iratik> I'm just noticing that hardware drivers does not show anything, so what do i need to do to make nvidia there in the list so i can enable it
[22:19] <sidh> it writes over
[22:19] <boss_mc> SonicComKid, then you are sorted
[22:20] <purvesh> any 1 know ".rmvb" which player for that file to play or from where i can download that player,  purvesh
[22:20] <owen1_> mzz: here is the result of lshal|grep xkb: http://pastebin.com/m3aab6618
[22:20] <boss_mc> if you're feeling daring, try starting and stopping apache2...
[22:20] <boss_mc> SonicComKid, see if it breaks again ;)
[22:20] <mrwes> iratik, is this a fresh install? If so, did you enable third party sources?
[22:20] <raylu> !codecs | purvesh
[22:20] <mzz> owen1_: interesting. It actually *is* set through hal, which isn't common. "grep -r dvorak /etc/hal"?
[22:20] <Slart> purvesh: sounds like realmedid... the real player isn't half bad on linux
[22:20] <owen1_> raylu: nothing
[22:20] <Slart> purvesh: unlike it's windows counterpart
[22:20] <owen1_> mzz: nothing
[22:21] <iratik> mrwes: its a fresh install, no have not done anything since install
[22:21] <boss_mc> Soren1, seems normal...
[22:21] <dreamy> she_dyed: ok.. but i got no idea for that add on i can search trougth
[22:21] <mzz> owen1_: same for /usr/share/hal/fdi
[22:21] <boss_mc> Soren1, I assume that's from after you plugged in the mouse?
[22:21] <mrwes> iratik, enable third party sources and backports and see if it pulls in the hardware drivers
[22:21] <sidh> i really wonders why is there an alternate cd, if you can not choose such options
[22:21] <iratik> Thank you
[22:21] <owen1_> mzz: i can try 'setxkbmap -layout us' if u think it can help. what is HAL? sounds futuristic..
[22:22] <Soren1> boss_mc: it is the same terminal before and after
[22:22] <raylu> !hal
[22:22] <SonicComKid> boss_mc, samba service starts and stops as it should now, but vista refuses to access it samba share
[22:22] <mzz> owen1_: I'd be really surprised if "setxkbmap -layout us" sticks across an X restart.
[22:22] <boss_mc> owen1_, Hardware Abstraction Layer
[22:22] <she_dyed> dreamy i think its stalone tray or something like that
[22:22] <raylu> SonicComKid: smbclient -L localhost
[22:22] <mzz> owen1_: but then again I'm already surprised hal is initializing it to dvorak, and I can't find how that happened yet.
[22:22] <Soren1> raylu, somehow XP and or Belkin hosed network settings in XP............i.e. I cannot connect either wired or wireless, but it works in Ubuntu............so I need to start all over with installing XP first <heavy sigh>
[22:22] <helper> if someone is pining my server ! how i can check this by logs?
[22:22] <boss_mc> SonicComKid, it might take a while to be recognised, I've had to wait a few minutes before for it to get noticed...
[22:23] <dreamy> she_dyed: screenshots on e16 got alot of handsome.. pretty taskbars
[22:23] <dreamy> ive just checked
[22:23] <raylu> Soren1: no, as others have said, you can install xp and then just reinstall grub
[22:23] <Demonicdata> su-to-root -X -c /usr/sbin/firestarter
[22:23] <mzz> owen1_: roughly hal is a daemon keeping a tree of device information (built through a combination of autodetection and configuration files) which apps can use to scan for hardware and be notified on changes. Recent versions of Xorg use it for input devices.
[22:23] <Demonicdata> Is that the correct command to put in a startup
[22:23] <owen1_> mzz: on install i asked for dvorak. maybe that's why?
[22:23] <Soren1> raylu: I never installed Ubuntu, I am still on the LiveCd
[22:24] <SonicComKid> boss_mc, a system restart did it
[22:24] <owen1_> Soren1: it's never too late.
[22:24] <SonicComKid> boss_mc, I got access to files again
[22:24] <mzz> owen1_: hal still has to be told somehow, and I'm not sure how that's happening if not through /etc/hal or /usr/share/hal/fdi
[22:24] <Soren1> lol
[22:24] <raylu> Soren1: oh.
[22:24] <Demonicdata> I added that in the startup but it seems to have given me great permissions,it isn't prompting me to supply a password when i try and launch programs i think should require higher permission,like update
[22:24] <sina> Hello, I just installed Ubuntu and my internet is unnaturally slow. Any help?
[22:24] <mzz> owen1_: oh wait, perhaps I do. Is your terminal encoding dvorak? I wonder if it's tied to that somehow.
[22:24] <she_dyed> dreamy i am not on e16 right now but if you ca d/load the devel version
[22:24] <SonicComKid> boss_mc, thank you VERY much
[22:24] <nymphonix> what should CPU usage usually be around? my conky is saying both CPUs are consistently running at 25%+
[22:24] <she_dyed> dreamy i use e17 thats why
[22:25] <boss_mc> SonicComKid, you're welcome, this #ubuntu channel is fun procrastination from work...
[22:25] <dreamy> she_dyed: u mean u use e17 cause of the bar?
[22:25] <raylu> Demonicdata: wouldn't it be easier to just modify your /etc/sudoers?
[22:25] <owen1_> mzz: i have dvorak all over the place.
[22:25] <SonicComKid> boss_mc, you wouldn't belive the things I tried to get the stupid thing to uninstall x.x
[22:25] <Soren1> anyways, ty boss_mc
[22:25] <owen1_> mzz: on the install i asked for it.
[22:25] <alfacat_> how do i configure jaunty for multiple wm?
[22:25] <sina> I just installed Ubuntu and my internet is unnaturally slow
[22:25] <mzz> owen1_: /etc/default/console-setup
[22:25] <mzz> owen1_: although I have no clue how that's getting into hal, it just might.
[22:26] <SonicComKid> boss_mc, to my knowledge NOTHING should have changed anything. Stopping an apache2 server from running shouldn't have caused the SAMBA meltdown
[22:26] <owen1_> mzz: i would like to have change it sometimes, when non-dvorak users want to use my machine.
[22:26] <she_dyed> because of a lot of things that make it wonderful to use dreamy not just the bar
[22:26] <mzz> owen1_: "setxkbmap -layout us" should work just fine if you're changing it just once though.
[22:26] <owen1_> mzz: let me try.
[22:26] <boss_mc> SonicComKid, I wonder why aptitude couldn't uninstall it, one of the strenghts of linux is that you can remove just about everything while it's running and it will work until you restart it
[22:26] <mzz> owen1_: I'm really just intrigued by this making it into hal's device tree somehow
[22:26] <SonicComKid> boss_mc, what's more crasy is whatever was wrong with samba was massive enough to make the console hang even with commands like pkill and killall
[22:27] <boss_mc> SonicComKid, then you try to reboot, you realise you accidentally deleted libstdc and boom, nothing works...
[22:27] <boss_mc> :)
[22:27] <boss_mc> good times
[22:27] <dreamy> she_dyed: but i wont be simple .. not has simple has i installed e16 (with synaptics) im a new bie :)
[22:27] <SonicComKid> boss_mc, aptitdue was hanging at the 'stopping samba daemons' step of removing it
[22:27] <boss_mc> ah
[22:27] <owen1_> mzz:ok, no dvorak. now how to bring it back.
[22:27] <Demonicdata> I was just trying to setup firestarter to boot raylu and that is the command i derived from the link i copied to the desktop.no idea what i'm doing i just installed ubuntu last night
[22:27] <boss_mc> SonicComKid, fair enough
[22:27] <mzz> owen1_: setxkbmap -layout dvorak
[22:28] <sina> Hello, I just installed Ubuntu and my internet is unnaturally slow.
[22:28] <myxo> Oh man I suck, I just spent 15 minutes on the phone unable to give someone directions to the intersection of Trade and Tryon in Charlotte and I live in Charlotte... lol
[22:28] <owen1_> mzz: great. thanks.
[22:28] <saxin> sina: lan or wlan?
[22:28] <sina> saxin: Not sure
[22:28] <mzz> owen1_: you can also do something fancy where some key combo switches between the two, but I don't know if that works reliably.
[22:29] <mzz> owen1_: forgot the exact syntax for that one, sorry.
[22:29] <mixi> hello
[22:29] <jefinc> I have a problem with my wireless adapter on my macbook pro, iwconfig displays "no wireless extentions" though lspci shows the wireless adapter, any suggestions?
[22:29] <dreamy> she_dyed: Did u too not had a taskbar with e16 .. and goten one with e17 by standard?
[22:29] <boss_mc> hi mixi
[22:29] <owen1_> mzz: can i add it to xinitrc if i want to persist it?
[22:29] <mixi> hi boss
[22:29] <mzz> owen1_: should work afaik, unless you end up racing with something. You *might* need to put it after a "sleep"
[22:30] <CoBaY> join ubuntu-f
[22:30] <mzz> owen1_: "(sleep 10; setxkbmap -layout whatever) &"
[22:30] <owen1_> mzz: i only have 1 line there: exec awesome
[22:30] <mzz> owen1_: try without the silly sleep first though.
[22:30] <sina> saxin: are you there?
[22:30] <saxin> sina: ye
[22:30] <she_dyed> dreamy on e17 its right there and can autohide but I used e16 when it did NOT have one
[22:30] <sina> saxin: Im not sure which one I have
[22:31] <saxin> cable or wireless? :)
[22:31] <dreamy> she_dyed: ok..that good info :)
[22:31] <sina> saxin: cable
[22:31] <x_> hello all
[22:31] <she_dyed> dreamy so I had a clean clear desktop but you know hte most amazing feature it had
[22:31] <owen1_> mzz: ok. thanks
[22:31] <dreamy> she_dyed: id like to install e17 then ? ... im  a new bie :S S  .. lol :)
[22:31] <michael_> quick question - what terminal command to check hard drives in your computer?
[22:31] <michael_> tried lspci but don't see it there
[22:32] <dreamy> wich one ? she_dyed ?
[22:32] <EugenMayer> hello, anybody can help me with linphone? it cant fine a video device ( because i dont have one.. ) and cant start. Anyway to disable tis?
[22:32] <iratik> mrwes: I've turned on the 3rd party sources, i've still got this same issue where there is nothing listed in the hardware drivers even after doing apt-get update .. screenshot: http://www.tinyurl.com/nvidiacompizdifficult
[22:32] <she_dyed> dreamy the pager
[22:32] <x_> hd or filesystem ?
[22:32] <ton2> ubuntu vs suse ?
[22:32] <dreamy> pager.. cool
[22:32] <myxo> What is the logic behind the term "apt-get" what do the abbreviations mean?
[22:32] <michael_> anyone know which terminal command to list hard drives?
[22:32] <she_dyed> dreamy the pager was a high quality snapshot of the virtual desktops
[22:32] <dreamy> cool
[22:32] <iratik> michael_: cat /etc/fstab,  or fdisk -l
[22:33] <dreamy> she_dyed: if i want to isntall e17 shall i remove e16 ?
[22:33] <Slart> !apt
[22:33] <she_dyed> dreamy no, they can coexist
[22:33] <sina> saxin: cable
[22:34] <she_dyed> dreamy but if i were you, i set up another user example dreamy17
[22:34] <ton2> what is more pretty suse or ubuntu ?
[22:34] <michael_> iratik, perfect, and to see space on a selected hard drive? :) thank you
[22:34] <she_dyed> and dreamy 17 would use e17
[22:34] <dreamy> she_dyed: but i whooud be eazy if id use synaptics like i used with e16.. simple install it was
[22:34] <iratik> michael_: df
[22:34] <Dulak> myxo: test
[22:34] <myxo> Dulak: yes?
[22:34] <nymphonix> ton2, up to you really. i've seen "pretty" set ups with both.
[22:34] <michael_> iratik, oh it's in fdisk -l too.. thank you so much :)
[22:34] <she_dyed> dreamy and thats the safest
[22:34] <Slart> myxo: there are several apt commands.. apt-get for installing stuff.. apt-cache for searching the downloaded package list and such..
[22:34] <drrohin> i need help with nvidia rad nforce4
[22:34] <Dulak> myxo: did that show up red to you?
[22:34] <michael_> iratik, i wish xchat had some feature where i could give you a thumbs up :)
[22:34] <myxo> Dulak: yes
[22:35] <ryanprior> I bought a new Edimax EW-7128G wireless card and plugged it in but lspci doesn't recognize it. What can I do?
[22:35] <drrohin> i need help with a nForce4 raid
[22:35] <nymphonix> I like the support of Ubuntu with the forums and on here, so I'm happy to stick with it for some time. And then when I get refamiliar with linux, I'll add some more distros.
[22:35] <myxo> ubottu: thank you, understanding the terminology helps me to remember what each command does =)
[22:35] <Slart> ryanprior: if lspci doesn't see I think you've got problems
[22:35] <SonicComKid> boss_mc, thanks again. Heading off
[22:35] <ryanprior> Slart: What sort of problems?
[22:35] <Slart> ryanprior: things usually show up in lspci even if there is no driver for it
[22:35] <alfacat_> I have jaunty running on a dual core, with a old RCT display, and using an integrated graphics board, and I cant get it to show reolutions bigger than 800x600. I've read that jaunty uses RandR for xorg configuration, but how can I change resolution
[22:35] <dreamy> she_dyed: im goint to try to do a search on e17 on synapctics
[22:36] <ton2> how can i test my fcrdns ?
[22:36] <ryanprior> Slart: So, is there anything I can do short of sending back the card and getting a new one?
[22:36] <alfacat_> ?
[22:36] <Slart> alfacat_: check the file /var/log/Xorg.0.log .. it will tell you why it isn't using a higher resolution
[22:36] <she_dyed> dreamy you wont regret it
[22:36] <Dulak> alfacat: are you sure the monitor and graphics card has enough memory to support a higher resolution?
[22:36] <Slart> ryanprior: well.. I would try it in another computer first.. see if it works there
[22:36] <ryanprior> Slart: I don't have another computer. :-(
[22:36] <drrohin> I need help with nForce4 raid
[22:36] <myxo> ubottu: lol @ bot comment
[22:36] <adac> Is it possible when I have an ubuntu live cd to set up that it should boot from usb?
[22:36] <ton2> how can i test my fcrdns ?
[22:36] <Slart> alfacat_: you can also pastebin it and give us the link.. we might be able to find something you might miss
[22:36] <dreamy> ok but i think its not listed she_dyed .. let me try
[22:36] <Slart> !pastebin | alfacat_
[22:37] <Dulak> alfacat: by default ubuntu will usually set your resolution at the highest setting the hardware can handle
[22:37] <Slart> !usb | adac
[22:37] <alfacat_> yes I'm sure, it was working fine with ubuntu 8.04
[22:38] <Dulak> alfacat_: sweet, it's worth asking just to be sure before we go through a bunch of troubleshooting
[22:38] <dreamy> she_dyed: thats rigth .. no e17 on synaptics.. did u installed it trougth there?
[22:38] <Slart> ryanprior: then I don't know what to try.. try putting it in another pci slot
[22:38] <Slart> ryanprior: it is a pci card, right?
[22:38] <alfacat_> the trouble is I cant configure xserver-xorg the old way, because a lot has changed in the new conf process
[22:38] <ryanprior> Slart: Okay, I'll try that. It is a PCI card.
[22:38] <adac> Slart, when I have the live cd and start that cd then there is an option to boot from the first hard disk. I instead want that on restart it should boot from usb
[22:39] <Slart> adac: I have no idea how to do that, sorry
[22:39] <boss_mc> myxo, stop bullying ubottu
[22:39] <Zephryos> To Anyone: Have the live CD put on a USB and it boots up, but after it goes to the Ubuntu boots where it says "Try Ubutu" it goes to a text only thiong. How do I get it back to how it was with the live CD. I'm wanting to run this dfully off my 2gb USB drive
[22:39] <adac> Slart, no problem!
[22:39] <boss_mc> myxo, he's only little
[22:39] <she_dyed> dreamy maybe its called enlightenment?
[22:39] <myxo> lol
[22:39] <alfacat_> strange, I have 2 connections to this channel
[22:40] <dreamy> she_dyed: on that word comes the e16
[22:40] <myxo> boss_mc: could i ask you where i could find a guide to dealing with .gz packages? i am not sure what to do with them after mounting, i have only found how to "browse" inside them
[22:41] <Bob_Dole> so, if I wanted to remove adobe-flash 10...completely.. how would I do that(aka, what's the package name) I want flash 9, and only flash 9.
[22:41] <gordonjcp> myxo: What exactly are you trying to do?
[22:41] <Zephryos> Anyone?
[22:41] <gordonjcp> !anyone | Zephryos
[22:41] <boss_mc> myxo, do you mean .tar.gz?
[22:41] <myxo> just trying to install software like something I found called LilyPond and CSounds.
[22:41] <myxo> yet boss_mc
[22:41] <myxo> yes*
[22:41] <boss_mc> myxo, if so they are like zip files
[22:42] <UntouchableMX> hi every one
[22:42] <Bob_Dole> gordonjcp, he asked already, then said "anyon?" after waiting
[22:42] <Zephryos> I did...
[22:42] <boss_mc> myxo, tar xvzf filename will extract them
[22:42] <gordonjcp> myxo: the websites for these will have instructions on how to compile
[22:42] <gordonjcp> Bob_Dole: yeah, but that's gone now
[22:42] <boss_mc> or they'll open if you click on them in the file manager (nautilus)
[22:42] <gordonjcp> Zephryos: anyway, what was the question?
[22:42] <myxo> ah okay
[22:42] <Dulak> myxo: it's probably best for you to stick with software from the repositories till you get a little more comfortable in linux
[22:42] <myxo> i got a program called Stellarium and all i've figured out how to do is extract it. lol.
[22:43] <boss_mc> myxo, what file was it?
[22:43] <myxo> Dulak: but its so tempting =) i love playing hehe
[22:43] <gordonjcp> myxo: approximately it's "tar xzf package.tar.gz; cd package; ./configure; make; sudo make install"
[22:43] <Slart> myxo: install that from the repos... much easier
[22:43] <Zephryos> Have the live CD put on a USB and it boots up, but after it goes to the Ubuntu boots where it says "Try Ubutu" it goes to a text only thing. How do I get it back to how it was with the live CD? I'm wanting to run this dfully off my 2gb USB drive
[22:43] <gordonjcp> Zephryos: okay
[22:43] <Flannel> myxo: stellarium is in the repos, why not just install that one?
[22:43] <dreamy> she_dyed: on synaptic with the comes the e16 .. ive checked and double checked ;)
[22:43] <Dulak> myxo: I know, I'm that way too, just saying...  use repos if at all possible
[22:43] <Bob_Dole> !flash
[22:43] <gordonjcp> you can boot from the livecd, yes?
[22:43] <Slart> myxo: just type sudo apt-get install stellarium
[22:43] <myxo> Slart: not all of the ones i've searched are listed, didn't realize Stellarium was there
[22:43] <myxo> Slart: will do
[22:43] <darwinwj> Hello everyone, first timer here.
[22:43] <UntouchableMX> hey guys, is there a way to install de default network maneger, I accidently uninstalled it
[22:44] <Dulak> myxo: anytime you find a program you want to try, go to synaptic and search for it there
[22:44] <Bob_Dole> I actually want to remove flash... *goes to see if that mentions the package name*
[22:44] <Zephryos> Gordon:Yes
[22:44] <boss_mc> myxo, in the terminal, the tab key will auto complete words if it can, including package names
[22:44] <gordonjcp> Zephryos: cool
[22:44] <she_dyed> dreamy maybe if you're feeling bold get the deb package? but I wouldn't know how
[22:44] <boss_mc> myxo, press it twice to see all possible completions of an ambiguous word
[22:44] <raylu> Demonicdata: sorry for going afk on you
[22:44] <myxo> I'm running into errors here and there, I need to sit down this weekend and spend a lot of time learning it all. =(
[22:44] <gordonjcp> Zephryos: incidentally if you hit "gord<tab>" it will autocomplete my nick, and that will show your name up bright yellow
[22:45] <Dulak> myxo: enable the universe and multiverse repos too, they have a LOT of packages not included by default
[22:45] <myxo> Right now I have no access to internet, I'm at Panera Bread lol.
[22:45] <raylu> Demonicdata: i thought you wanted to elevate to root without supplying a password
[22:45] <myxo> I'm logging all of this though.
[22:45] <raylu> Demonicdata: anyway, you should probably ask the channel again for help
[22:45] <myxo> If I can remember the directory!!
[22:45] <fil_> Can someone send me his ubuntu default themes cause I've lost them. Please, it's urgent!
[22:45] <dreamy> she_dyed: maybe that whould be nice.... i know software sources can be added at settings on synapitc too
[22:45] <dreamy> :S
[22:45] <Kage[Work]> Really dumb question, I think...
[22:45] <gordonjcp> Zephryos: so when you're addressing someone directly they can see it easily in the massive massive scroll of nonsense ;-)
[22:45] <coldboot> I need someone to try something out in Ubuntu Intrepid's pidgin 2.5.2. It will hang your pidgin, but won't do anything else. Try pasting this string: "?cs=d2_maemo_pda_001:dcoleman:20090519224327", without quotes, into a message window. Tell me what happens.
[22:45] <chris_> Hi, is this how grep works? If I ask: grep key* file
[22:45] <Kage[Work]> How do I pass this: ./configure --enable-pam && make install
[22:45] <Kage[Work]> Through to apt-get install ?
[22:45] <UntouchableMX> any body knows the name of the default network maneger, and how to install it manually
[22:45] <Slart> fil_: they aren't in the repos?
[22:45] <gordonjcp> Kage[Work]: you don't
[22:45] <boss_mc> Kage, you don't
[22:45] <Zephryos> gordonjcp: Ah that's nice, yeh I see that. :-)
[22:45] <Kage[Work]> gordonjcp, Is there any way I can?
[22:45] <chris_> should it output for example: # Fake ifupdown environment
[22:45] <alfacat_> Dulac, Slart: I cant do it right now because the linux box i'm talking about is at work. I will try to change the rct to another one and also get the xorg log before wasting your time. Thanks a lot :-)
[22:46] <dreamy> she_dyed: but how did you installed it yourself ?
[22:46] <darwinwj> Anyone had trouble installing adobe flash 10 on 8.04 Hardy Heron and got Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libpango1.0-0
[22:46] <boss_mc> Kage[Work], http://www.howtoforge.com/repackage_deb_packages_debian_ubuntu might help
[22:46] <myxo> Dulak boss_mc Slart gordonjcp Flannel thank you for your comments and sorry for my inability to keep up, I dive into things and get in over my head x,x I'll catch up though!
[22:46] <gordonjcp> Kage[Work]: you could do apt-get source <package> and tweak the config in the debian/ directory
[22:46] <kora-chan> heya im running jaunty and i have a small config question. i havw installed a kde4 app to learn vocabulary; but the fonts are really huge,.. how can i scale them down? i tried it with the qt4 configuration but it had no effect,... any idea?
[22:46] <Demonicdata> I don't like the way this ubuntu windows manager looks,gnome i believe its called,would it be a pain to switch to a differnet windows manager,i mean would i loose all my programs or what?
[22:46] <Bob_Dole> ..............
[22:46] <gordonjcp> Zephryos: right so you booted from CD, and installed to a USB drive?
[22:46] <Kage[Work]> gordonjcp, I'm trying to install ejabberd via apt and use pam support, but you have to enable it in the configure options
[22:46] <Slart> myxo: no worries.. the channel can be a bit hectic
[22:46] <Bob_Dole> Adobe still says I have flash 10 installed, I keep trying to get rid of it
[22:46] <boss_mc> Kage[Work], it shows you how to edit a .deb package to do what you want it to do
[22:46] <myxo> Why would the terminal say that it is unable to find Stellarium?
[22:46] <Kage[Work]> boss_mc, I know how to edit debian packages
[22:46] <myxo> sudo apt-get install Stellarium
[22:46] <gordonjcp> Kage[Work]: yeah, you can't do that with the apt package
[22:46] <Kage[Work]> I'm just trying to do it an easier way :/
[22:46] <OmegaII> Hi there, I'm running Ubuntu 9.04 server on an EEEPC 901. I have an external USB hard drive with ext4. The problem I'm having is slow reading and writing speeds when I try to put files on it via FTP / SMB / SFTP , they all give the same result. It goes fine for a couple of random seconds, and then falls back to 800-1000~ kbps. Anyone some advice what the problem might be. Or how to find the problem.
[22:46]  * Kage[Work] sighs
[22:47] <Slart> Demonicdata: why not give KDE a try.. download a live cd with Kubuntu and give it a spin
[22:47] <Kage[Work]> That really sucks..
[22:47] <Flannel> myxo: Are you connected to the internet?  Is this a new install?  have you done 'sudo apt-get update'?
[22:47] <FloodBot3> Kage[Work]: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:47] <Dulak> Demonicdata: the programs and the window manager are seperate, if you install kde for example, kde's menu will have all the same programs listed as gnome does, though some will be replaced with kde versions
[22:47] <gordonjcp> myxo: lower case s
[22:47] <Zephryos> gordonjcp: Yes, I used the USB Boot Creation tool like ziroday suggested yesterday night to get to this point.
[22:47] <Slart> Demonicdata: or you could install KDE on your existing system
[22:47] <gordonjcp> Zephryos: okay
[22:47] <myxo> Flannel: yes, yes, yes.
[22:47] <gordonjcp> Zephryos: wait wait
[22:47] <EugenMayer> is jaunty still using /etc/apt/preferences
[22:47] <gordonjcp> Zephryos: did you want to put the *installer* on the USB key?
[22:47] <Demonicdata> I am looking at that switch right now,i hear enlightenment is also good,but i'm saying now that i have ubuntu all installed and configured how hard would it be to switch to KDE?
[22:47] <myxo> lower case worked, haha
[22:47] <Flannel> myxo: and the update goes without a problem?  Please pastebin the output of sudo apt-get update
[22:47] <myxo> is lower case the standard?
[22:47] <Slart> EugenMayer: doesn't seem so
[22:47] <Demonicdata> yeah I want to switch my windows manager,its not going to mess up all my programs right?
[22:47] <myxo> Flannel: yes, I'm anal about my computers, even in a new OS i've updated more than once a day
[22:48] <Slart> Demonicdata: not very hard.. install kubuntu-desktop and you should be done
[22:48] <myxo> Flannel: i consider slowness a "major issue" haha
[22:48] <Flannel> myxo: packages are all lowercase, yes.  stellarium is the package name.
[22:48] <gordonjcp> Kage[Work]: the prebuilt debs generally have the most common "normal" options - if you want pam then you just roll your own package.  There are good docs on how to do this
[22:48] <boss_mc> Kage[Work], the deb packages contain compiled binaries... the configure arguments change how the binaries ar made, how could apt change the binary?
[22:48] <myxo> Flannel: which is why i left my old country of windows...
[22:48] <Zephryos> gordonjcp: I'm wanting to run the computer from the USB. This laptop has no internal HD, no internal CD Drive. So I'm using a External CD Drive and the USBB Drive. I also have a wireless card in the expansion slot .
[22:48] <Dulak> Demonicdata: not hard at all, there is a meta-package called kubuntu-desktop you can install that will put all the kde stuff into your system just like if you had installed kubuntu in the first place
[22:49] <gordonjcp> Zephryos: okay, your options are put the install image on the USB key and boot from that - and treat it as a faster livecd
[22:49] <Kage[Work]> boss_mc, Yeah, I see your point..
[22:49] <folarin> amy-best@hotmail.it
[22:49]  * Kage[Work] sighs
[22:49] <chazco> Hi... anyone know how to stop the "double click" touchscreen effect?
[22:49] <Demonicdata> Dulak I didn't know about Kubuntu till right now.DAM!
[22:49] <gordonjcp> Zephryos: or actually install a bootable OS to the key
[22:49] <myxo> Flannel: lower case with stellarium worked, i'd like to get some things to play with offline, tutorials or single player games
[22:49] <graft> is it possible to get true transparency for gnome-terminal's background, somehow?
[22:49] <Dulak> Demonicdata: it's ok, that's what the meta packages are for
[22:49] <myxo> Flannel: if you or anyone else can suggest any
[22:49] <Flannel> !games | myxo
[22:49] <Slart> graft: yes, using compiz
[22:49] <Demonicdata> Ok so I look in add/remove programs for kubuntu desktop and it will take care of itself
[22:49] <Zephryos> gordonjcp: usb key = ? And god  love that autocomplete Tab feature...
[22:49] <graft> Slart: how?
[22:50] <iratik> Why aren't any drivers showing up in "Hardware Drivers"             ?I have an nvidia card!
[22:50] <Slart> graft: there is a compiz plugin called.. something about opacity I think
[22:50] <myxo> Flannel: why such a response lol?
[22:50] <boss_mc> graft, or using metacity's compositing manager....
[22:50] <gordonjcp> Zephryos: sorry, I thought you meant like a flash drive
[22:50] <jonaskoelker> Hi all.  I'm on intrepid.  I have my TV plugged in with s-video.  In gnome-display-settings, when I select "Mirror screens", the screens aren't mirrored.  How do I mirror screens?  I've had a working screen-mirror set up on this box earlier
[22:50] <Zephryos> gordonjcp: It's a 2GB Datacenter (r) USB Drive.
[22:50] <darwinwj> Hey Bob Dole, to get rid of flash 10 don't you just open the terminal and put in sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree ??? I did it and it worked
[22:50] <fil_> Slart, yeah, thanks xD
[22:51] <gordonjcp> Zephryos: anyway there should be no problem with booting the install CD from your USB CD drive, and installing to the USB hard drive
[22:51] <boss_mc> graft, gconftool-2 -s /apps/metacity/general/compositing_manager –type bool true
[22:51] <folarin> ciao+
[22:51] <LjL> !it | folarin
[22:51] <boss_mc> graft, switches to composited metacity (requires good graphics drivers...)
[22:51] <graft> boss_mc: hm, okay, i will play around with that
[22:51] <mythman> I am after an app that can download search and download for DVD Covers i am running ubuntu 9.04 can you recommend anything
[22:51] <Zephryos> gordonjcp:I thought thats what I had already done... are yuo ok with PM or would you prefer to remain here.
[22:51] <Eternaut4> hi, can somebody tell me the command to know the path of the current directory?
[22:52] <graft> Eternaut4: pwd
[22:52] <iratik> cwd
[22:52] <gordonjcp> Zephryos: may as well remain here
[22:52] <iratik> err.. what graft said
[22:52] <Eternaut4> pwd, thanks a lot =)
[22:52] <gordonjcp> Zephryos: no, the make usb bootable drive thing is for blatting the install image onto a USB drive
[22:52] <boss_mc> myxo, what do you want to do on ubuntu? Games, work, developement, webbrowsing, server hosting, ?
[22:52] <Demonicdata> so I got to ask,of all the windows manager whats the best and what does gnome having go for it?
[22:52] <gordonjcp> Zephryos: for various boring technical reasons the mechanicals behind booting from CD and booting from USB are different
[22:53] <graft> Demonicdata: gnome is not a window manager, it's a desktop environment
[22:53] <graft> Demonicdata: metacity is a window manager
[22:53] <walter_> i want to love ubuntu
[22:53] <boss_mc> Demonicdata, GNOME is easy to use, looks decent and is reasonably fast, it's the most average DE
[22:53] <gordonjcp> Zephryos: booting from CD resembles booting from floppy, booting from USB resembles booting from a hard disk
[22:53] <iratik> Demonicdata: Asking what is "best" is a matter of subjective opinion, graft described gnome well..  but i don't want you to get discouraged with semantics
[22:53] <Demonicdata> Oh i didn't know that
[22:53] <Zephryos> gordonjcp: Ah ok, well I'm wanting it to be my main drive :D Not going to use it for anything but college assignments using GIMP, OpenOffice, n IM chatting so it shoudl suit me well enough on a 2GB..
[22:53] <gordonjcp> Zephryos: ye
[22:53] <Slart> Demonicdata: what you want and what others want might or might not be the same.. just try them and see which one works for you
[22:53] <gordonjcp> Zephryos: if it's a 2GB 2.5" drive, will it fit in your laptop in place of the missing drive?
[22:53] <Demonicdata> I thought gnome was a windows manager,is KDE and enlightenment windows managers or desktop enviroment and most importantly what is the difference between a desktop enviroment and a windows manager?
[22:53] <iratik> Can anyone help me with compiz, i can't get it to work!
[22:53] <she_dyed> dreamy am using another distro and they had an rpm for it (like a deb)
[22:54] <myxo> boss_mc: i just want to learn, learn and game, through Cedega
[22:54] <gordonjcp> Zephryos: 2GB may be a *little* tight
[22:54] <myxo> boss_mc: expand my horizons, in general
[22:54] <Pixels> are there any ubuntu developers here?  Is Seveas a developer?
[22:54] <Slart> Demonicdata: KDE, gnome and XFCE are all well supported by ubuntu, kubuntu and xubuntu respectively.. they have all got livecd's you can download
[22:54] <walter_> gordon jcp im ddosing you
[22:54] <myxo> boss_mc: complicated math software would be nice, i'm an EE
[22:54] <Pixels> Seveas: are you one of the main ubuntu developers?
[22:54] <Viper550> Demonicdata, Gnome is not a WM. Metacity is Gnome's window manager. Kwin is KDE's Window manager
[22:54] <myxo> boss_mc: EE major, corrected
[22:54] <Zephryos> gordonjcp: Alright so how to I go about this. And 2.5" drive... I have no clue o.o;; its a standard USB size one, 10$ from the store..
[22:55] <linduxed> how do i make a file read-only
[22:55] <linduxed> ?
[22:55] <boss_mc> linduxed, chmod -w filename
[22:55] <iratik> linduxed: read only for who?
[22:55] <enthused_> linduxed: chmod 444 file
[22:55] <gordonjcp> Zephryos: okay, so a flash drive?
[22:55] <Demonicdata> I'm not sure what the diff is,new and all.So is it easy to switch between windows managers or desktop enviroments?
[22:55] <Viper550> Demonicdata, yeah
[22:55] <Viper550> Demonicdata, that's what the Session button does on the login screen
[22:55] <gordonjcp> Zephryos: basically if you've nothing you care about losing on the USB drive, just follow the installer prompts
[22:55] <fyn_> I turned on some stuff that makes fglrx lock hard.. how do I stop KDM from loading without having to find a bootdisk?
[22:55] <darwinwj> can anyone help with getting adobe flash 10 to install on 8.04 Hardy Heron?
[22:56] <gordonjcp> Zephryos: handy hint - if you've got any USB things sticking out of the laptop, they will get broken off
[22:56] <gordonjcp> Zephryos: gaffa tape a USB hub to the lid and plug the drive in with a short USB extension
[22:56] <Slart> darwinwj: what version is in the repos? or it doesn't work?
[22:56] <enthused_> has anyone seen ssh client syntax like the following: user:number@host ? anyone know how that number affects things? I haven't found docs on it
[22:57] <Zephryos> gordonjcp: Luckily I have one of those...
[22:57] <dreamy> she_dyed: okey
[22:57] <myxo> boss_mc: now that I think of it, i do a lot of video and dvd ripping/encoding, i like to make AMV's (very rarely) to games that i play, mostly in homage to music, not the games. i would also like to use my laptop as a "distortion" type instrument because i play guitar
[22:57] <boss_mc> fyn, just boot into recovery mode
[22:57] <Demonicdata> now i don't know what i'm looking for
[22:58] <Soren1> if I download files to the desktop using the Ubuntu LiveCD, will they be deleted if I close Ubuntu?
[22:58] <Slart> darwinwj: ok, let's keep it in the channel
[22:58] <Soren1> .
[22:58] <jonaskoelker> I have a question
[22:58] <jonaskoelker> how do I mirror screens?
[22:58] <Soren1> am I connected here?
[22:58] <myxo> does anyone else here run any audio manipulation software like idk... using your PC to simulate pedals for guitars?
[22:58] <EagleScreen> Soren1: yes
[22:58] <Soren1> if I download files to the desktop using the Ubuntu LiveCD, will they be deleted if I close Ubuntu?
[22:58] <jonaskoelker> Soren1: yes, they will
[22:58] <Demonicdata> i'm looking for something to spruce up the look,I'm looking for more graphics,maybe widgets,i dunno.What am i looking for a windows manager or a desktop enviroment or what
[22:58] <boss_mc> Soren1, you will lose them
[22:58] <myxo> Soren1: i can see you =)
[22:58] <Soren1> if I download files to the desktop using the Ubuntu LiveCD, will they be deleted if I close Ubuntu?
[22:58] <boss_mc> Soren1, yep
[22:58] <Slart> have you tried uninstalling the flash plugin package and just downloading the binary plugin from adobe? then copying it to ~/.mozilla/plugins?
[22:58] <iratik> myxo: vst, jackd, look into ubuntu studio as well...
[22:58] <Viper550> Soren1, yeah.
[22:58] <Flannel> myxo: I've never heard of IDK, but check out Audacity
[22:58] <boss_mc> myxo, check out dvdrip
[22:58] <EagleScreen> Soren1: you has to save it in other disk
[22:59] <Soren1> will Ubuntu let me burn disks?
[22:59] <boss_mc> myxo, yes
[22:59] <Slart> Soren1: yes
[22:59] <myxo> iratik Flannel boss_mc: thanks
[22:59] <iratik> Soren1: Yes
[22:59] <iratik> But you have to have a CDR otherwise it will not work
[22:59] <Soren1> ok, ty everyone
[22:59] <EagleScreen> Soren1: do u mean in Live mode or installed mode?
[22:59] <Zephryos> gordonjcp: So after taping USb hub to laptop next step O might Gordon?
[22:59] <Soren1> Ubuntu LiveCD
[22:59] <myxo> Flannel: idk lol, i meant like... i don't know, hahaha
[22:59] <myxo> Flannel: priceless =)
[22:59] <phaze74> Hi. I have 70 perl modules I've built into deb packages for Gutsy using dh-make-perl. I've just deployed new Jaunty servers. Looks like I have to recreate all 70 for Jaunty. :( They're CPAN libs that are not in the distros. I guess I don't really have a question because the reality is that I have to do the work. :(
[23:00] <phaze74> Anyone know a fast way to build 70 perl libs into .debs other than dh-make-perl?
[23:00] <darwinwj> Slart, it does work with utube, but a bit jumpy.
[23:00] <jrib> phaze74: why don't you contribute them to the official repositories?
[23:00] <Soren1> I need a drive just for Ubuntu
[23:00] <phaze74> jrib I should.
[23:00] <Pixels> Soren1: doubt it
[23:00] <modmadmike> I can't install linux-image-server http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1166414
[23:00] <yomm> iphaze74 : checkinstall ?
[23:00] <gordonjcp> Zephryos: that's just to stop the thing getting broken off ;-)
[23:00] <phaze74> yomm - Googling it.
[23:01] <dreamy> she_dyed: i realy apreciate alot for your time so far ;)
[23:01] <gordonjcp> Zephryos: just boot off the CD, go for "try ubuntu" and fire up the installer once you're ready
[23:02] <sexotron> er, I was wondering if I could get some help installing ubuntu-GParted doesn't see my hard disk
[23:02] <Soren1> if I had a drive just for Ubuntu.............. when windows dies............as it always will............I can just run Ubuntu off of the second drive and will not need to mess with any Ubuntu settings and can just do a simple install of XP on the other drive.................. instead of having to stuggle through a dual install each time
[23:02] <dreamy> she_dyed: theres someting called enlightenment "engage dock" i think im getting there
[23:03] <Dr_Willis> Soren1:    with linux you can do all sorts of things like that.
[23:03] <modmadmike> I can't install linux-image-server http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1166414
[23:03] <iratik> Seriously , i've been trying for a few days to get compiz to work - i know desktop-effects are frivilous and unimportant ... but , please humour me ...  I'm not an idiot , i've gone through no-exageration, hundreds of forum posts and been on google for days... i tried in 9.04, recompiled kernel, drivers etc...  then i gave up, switched computers with a fresh nvidia card on another machine with 8.10 ... Still am running into no luck, this is
[23:03] <iratik>  a fresh install  ,i'veenabled 3rd party repos ...Hardware drivers still shows no place to enable anything, its completely blank ... Can someone please humour me and help me?
[23:03] <myxo> What do you guys prefer to use for installation? The terminal or Synaptic Package Manager?
[23:03] <Dr_Willis> Soren1:  reinstalling XP may goof up the grub boot loader.. but thats fixable.
[23:03] <mario78> #join
[23:03] <Slart> modmadmike: don't spam the channel
[23:03] <IndyGunFreak> myxo: they're the same thing, it doesn't really matter
[23:03] <Soren1> Dr_Willis: I am bregnning to see the light
[23:03] <Flannel> myxo: Doesn't matter.  When you're looking for apps, synaptic is usually easier to browse with.
[23:03] <Slart> modmadmike: try !repeat for some bot info
[23:03] <myxo> IndyGunFreak: just asking about preference =)
[23:03] <Uatec> howdy partners
[23:03] <boss_mc> myxo, I always use terminal, syaptic takes too long to load... (speed is of the essence)
[23:03] <EugenMayer> how to install linphone 3.1.2 from source under ubuntu
[23:03] <IndyGunFreak> myxo: it doesn't matter.
[23:04] <myxo> boss_mc: here comes the anal aspect again =)
[23:04] <boss_mc> myxo, although synaptic will tell you about things you've uninstalled but not removed the configuration files of
[23:04] <IndyGunFreak> !source | EugenMayer
[23:04] <Slart> EugenMayer: hmm.. follow instructions from the linphone people?
[23:04] <yomm> iratic : what videocard are you using ?
[23:04] <she_dyed> dreamy you're getting warmer!
[23:04] <Flannel> myxo: You can switch between them at will.  So you can use whichever suits your needs at the time.
[23:04] <she_dyed> thats what it was called
[23:04] <she_dyed> thats what it was called dreamy
[23:04] <Slart> EugenMayer: there's usually a README or a INSTALL file included with the source
[23:05] <myxo> Flannel: yea, i like that ability so far =)
[23:05] <EugenMayer> IndyGunFreak: or could i simply use the karmic release?
[23:05] <myxo> Flannel: SPM seems more suited for experimental downloads
[23:05] <EugenMayer> Slart: which is not working?
[23:05] <IndyGunFreak> EugenMayer: i gess you could try that if you wanted.. but its still very early in beta..
[23:05] <Viper550> in most cases it will be a ./configure, then make, then make install as root
[23:05] <Demonicdata> I think i'm just looking for some themes
[23:05] <IndyGunFreak> EugenMayer: its actually not even beta yet, so theres a lot of potential for things to break
[23:05] <myxo> Another question before I have to go, is there an equivalent to windows AutoIt?
[23:05] <odder> anyone willing to give me a hand in setting up a microphone in ubuntu?
[23:05] <EugenMayer> IndyGunFreak: better then the current linphone 2.1 "stable" which not even starts, if you dont have a webcam..
[23:05] <sexotron> does anyone know why GParted would not detect an SATAII hard disk that's recognized in bios on an ASRockp45 motherboard? If someone does that would be really helpful!
[23:06] <IndyGunFreak> EugenMayer: well why does it not start?
[23:06] <dreamy> she_dyed: what do you mean ? did you remembered about anything ?
[23:06] <EugenMayer> IndyGunFreak: "no videa device found under /dev/video0
[23:06] <Slart> EugenMayer: "not working"?? It crashes? doesn't run? gives you some kind of error message? uses foul language?? what does "not working" mean?
[23:06] <zleap> is it possible to send a message from a mobile phone to a ubuntu desktop
[23:06] <IndyGunFreak> EugenMayer: well what makes you think karmic will solve that?
[23:06] <IndyGunFreak> that doesn't sound like a software issue.
[23:06] <EugenMayer> Slart: you mean the howto of linphone to install it on jaunty ( the 3.x version ), or?
[23:06] <modmadmike> Setting up linux-image-2.6.28-11-server (2.6.28-11.42) ...
[23:06] <modmadmike> Running depmod.
[23:06] <modmadmike> Failed to run depmod
[23:06] <modmadmike> dpkg: error processing linux-image-2.6.28-11-server (--configure):
[23:06] <modmadmike>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[23:06] <FloodBot3> modmadmike: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:06] <modmadmike> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of linux-image-server:
[23:06] <she_dyed> dreamy it was called engage, be sure to check the README or INSTALL instructions, that may be for e16
[23:07]  * IndyGunFreak sighs
[23:07] <Zephryos> gordonjcp: Alright, loading from CD... waiting like 3 mins till its done.. Then use that installer shortcut on the desktop?
[23:07] <EugenMayer> IndyGunFreak: "solve" i mean this package is not to solve, 2.x, its broken.
[23:07] <Nomines> night
[23:07] <dreamy> she_dyed:ok.. im getting closer ;)
[23:07] <gordonjcp> Zephryos: yup
[23:07] <she_dyed> dreamy always have a backup plan, got a cold one in the fridge?
[23:07] <Slart> EugenMayer: you're the one that said "which is not working".. I'm not sure what you were talking about
[23:07] <darwinwj> catch ya'll later.
[23:07] <dreamy> she_dyed: lol :)
[23:08] <OmegaII> Anynone can help me with a speed problem when I try to remotely read or write data through LAN on a USB hard drive ext4 FS on an EEEPC 901 with Ubuntu server 9.04 ?
[23:08] <EugenMayer> Slart: iam not sure how you would install linphone under jaunty ( the 3.x version )
[23:08] <myxo> thanks for the help everyone... i'll be back in a few days once i get the internet setup @ my townhouse, the guys coming tomorrow but the router from newegg prolly won't be here til Tuesday lol...
[23:09] <dreamy> she_dyed: a litle bit different question.. do you happen do know if "e-kde" Is enligthmeent with "kde" looks  ?
[23:09] <Slart> EugenMayer: I would download the source and compile it.. it seems the repos only have 2.1.1
[23:09] <EugenMayer> IndyGunFreak: the only SIP client able to integrate into gnome is broken from the start...who the hack watches the release plan
[23:09] <EugenMayer> Slart: exactly
[23:09] <Zephryos> gordonjcp: Its askign for a username......
[23:09] <EugenMayer> Slart: thats why i thought to pick up the source packages of https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linphone
[23:10] <she_dyed> dreamy i havent heard of that one, its like two opposite religions
[23:10] <Slart> EugenMayer: yes.. and when you unpack those sources there isn't a README or INSTALL file?
[23:10] <dreamy> she_dyed: ok :)
[23:11] <progre55> hi people!
[23:11] <EugenMayer> Slart: didnt even try yet, because i want to know what the "ubuntu" way is to install those
[23:11] <gordonjcp> Zephryos: doesn't the username box time out after a few second?
[23:11] <Zephryos> Yes, I've beens toping it do I need to let it go?
[23:11] <modmadmike> Running depmod. Failed to run depmod dpkg: error processing linux-image-2.6.28-11-server (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of linux-image-server: linux-image-server depends on linux-image-2.6.28-11-server; however:  Package linux-image-2.6.28-11-server is not configured yet.dpkg: error processing linux-image-server (--configure): dependency
[23:11] <modmadmike> problems - leaving unconfigured
[23:11] <she_dyed> let me show you some screenshots I have shedied.deviantart.com
[23:11] <she_dyed> dreamy ^^
[23:11] <dreamy> she_dyed: ok im checking
[23:11] <Slart> EugenMayer: well.. I'm not really sure what would happen if you install a source package from another distro.. If I were you I would download the packed source from the linphone site
[23:12] <progre55> I have a class that will be used by different other classes, and I need a "shared" variable that would be common for all the instances of the class. Say, it will just keep count of some processes. Is there any way to do that?
[23:12] <progre55> static? )
[23:12] <Slart> progre55: sure.. but you'll have to find a .. c++?.. channel to ask in
[23:12] <dreamy> she_dyed: Do you use enlightenment cauze of the "looks"
[23:12] <dreamy> ?
[23:12] <EugenMayer> How good is the integration of Lenphone into gnome Slart?
[23:13] <progre55> omg! just ignore ))) I need to go to the java channel :-D
[23:13] <Slart> EugenMayer: I have no idea.. I've never tried it
[23:13] <EugenMayer> Somebody in here ever tried linphooneß
[23:13] <dreamer__> helo
[23:14] <she_dyed> dreamy plus all the things i can do with it. can I pm you?
[23:14] <sexotron> er, is there anybody here who could help me install ubuntu? I'm having some problems with the partition editor
[23:14] <sexotron> namely, it doesn't see my hard disk
[23:14] <jrib> sexotron: version of ubuntu?
[23:14] <sexotron> hardy heron
[23:15] <Slart> sexotron: what kind of hard disks? what kind of computer? what kind of ubuntu?
[23:15] <dreamy> she_dyed: nice screenshots ..
[23:15] <dreamy> she_dyed:sure
[23:15] <Lone_Pedo> I'm having trouble getting 3d graphics to work on my older computer running Jaunty. Graphics is Intel 82810 DC-133 integrated. I've read that the newer version is causing some problems. Is there a fix for this older machine?
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> sexotron: did you md5 check the iso you downloaded?
[23:15] <sexotron> slart: 32 bit, a computer i built the motherboard is from ASRock (p45turbotwins2000),
[23:15] <Slart> Lone_Pedo: I don't think there is a finished fix yet
[23:16] <michael> anyone here purchased anything from data-alliance?
[23:16] <sexotron> well I'm running off the cd right now
[23:16] <michael> (computer parts)
[23:16] <Slart> Lone_Pedo: if you're experiencing the intel driver bug thingy
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> sexotron: means nothing, check the iso
[23:16] <sexotron> er, sorry, how would I do that
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> sexotron: you need to check it before burning as it may contain errors
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> !md5
[23:17] <sexotron> i've used this cd to install ubuntu on another computer
[23:17] <Lone_Pedo> Start: Ok, thank you. I just get horizontal lines on screen. Is that the bug? Is a fix being developed?
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> sexotron: ok thats cool
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> sexotron: does the disk show up in     sudo fdisk -l ?
[23:18] <user__> EIN Hallo
[23:18] <puttblug> Quick question about booting ... a long time ago I recall using a particular boot param to get my DVD reader to boot IDE, where it seems to want to default to SCSI... suffice it to say, I'm having issues. Does anyone know the param I'm talking about?
[23:18] <sexotron> actionparsnip: no it doesn't
[23:18] <sexotron> but it does in the boot menu in bios
[23:18] <Slart> Lone_Pedo: I'm not sure, I haven't seen it myself.. but I seem to recall it had to do with 3d performance
[23:18] <dreamer__> ok
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> sexotron: i'd run    dmesg | less    to see whats happening
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> sexotron: you may need some bootoptions to get it detected
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> bootoptions | sexotron
[23:19] <modmadmike> Does anyone understand why I can't install any other kernels than the one already installed, spt-get fails with "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> sexotron: if it detects in bios it sould be ok
[23:19] <boss_mc> !bootoptions | sexotron
[23:20] <Lone_Pedo> Start: Ok thanks!
[23:20] <sexotron> ActionParsnip: thank you, I'll look at that and see if i can find a solution
[23:20] <[PATRIOTS]phire> Sup guys, could I get some help real quick with an easy question?
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> modmadmike: can you pastebin the command you run to make the error as well as the whole error
[23:20] <modmadmike> oh and it also states "Failed to run depmod"
[23:20] <Slart> phiar: just ask
[23:20] <Seeker`> !ask | phiar
[23:20] <modmadmike> ok
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> !paste
[23:21] <Zephryos> gordonjcp: May I PM you?
[23:21] <modmadmike> http://paste.ubuntu.com/177483/
[23:22] <hskill> i just upgraded to ubuntu 9.04 and now pidgin messages from people show up in a popup in ubuntu when the IM window is minimized. what's this called? and is this an ubuntu thing or a pidgin thing? i dont see an option to turn it off
[23:22] <phiar> I have an old apple g4, and I want to install ubuntu server edition on it. From the research I've done so far, I've found out that I need to get a PPC version? Is there a specific version number I should get (supposedly all I've seen so far is 7.10 I think it was, or does the new version automatically support ppc?
[23:22] <Slart> !ppc | phiar
[23:22] <fil_> Hello, I tried to install a gtk2 engine called rezlooks and when i type ./configure it says checking for GTK... configure: error: GTK+-2.8 is required to compile rezlooks. Help? thx
[23:23] <Slart> hskill: I think pidgin is using a notification daemon
[23:23] <modmadmike> opps posted two commands at once
[23:23] <Slart> hskill: the notification daemon is a general system thing.. you can make other software use it too.. I get irc-messages in popups for example
[23:23] <dekkong> is there a bug in firefox ? I cant seem to clear my history in the web bar
[23:24] <jeff__> how do i use the terminal to display a popup message or system alert?
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> dekkong: ctrl+shift + del
[23:24] <sere> i made my /home/me dir a different partition how do i give write access to it
[23:24] <fil_> Hello, I tried to install a gtk2 engine called rezlooks and when i type ./configure it says checking for GTK... configure: error: GTK+-2.8 is required to compile rezlooks. Help? thx
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> jeff__: zenity
[23:24] <eso> why does my vlc video open in another window named xvideo output?
[23:24] <modmadmike> ActionParsnip: any idea?
[23:24] <gief> jeff__: or try showp
[23:24] <dekkong> ActionParsnip: yes but the history wont go away
[23:24] <Slart> jeff__: notify-send works for me
[23:25] <jeff__> ok thanks guys :)
[23:25] <centaur5> Is there a way in the alternate install to make apt do a --fix-missing on a package it fails to download?
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> modmadmike: not sure, sorry. The pastebin is useful though
[23:25] <gief> guys does anyone know about any hack which allows one to filter the Recent Documents list?
[23:25] <hskill> slart does the notification daemon work with every irc client or only certain gui ones?
[23:25] <doc_brown> !paste
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> gief: if you can find how / where its stored you can filter that
[23:26] <Slart> hskill: I think the notification daemon just accepts messages and shows them.. it would be up to the developers of software to use it
[23:26] <Slart> hskill: in irssi I've downloaded a small python program that does the notification thingy
[23:26] <gief> how to filter recent document list to show files only in music folder forinstance, or anything but *.jpg, or only *.doc etc
[23:27] <gief> ActionParsnip: how do you mean?
[23:27] <Slart> gief: not that I know of.. it might be saved somewhere in gnome though.. perhaps you can find it in gconf-editor
[23:27] <crux000> Right, well, hello everyone ---- a fun question ... if fdisk -l reports my 80 gig hard drive as being 320 megs, and if df -h reports it as being full (!!!!!!!!) ... is it time to boot of the CD, run badblocks and memtestx86 until I'm happy, and clean install??
[23:27] <modmadmike> i gtg
[23:27] <doc_brown> i need to format my usb drive.  HERE is a list of my drives. http://paste.ubuntu.com/177487/  I believe this will work.  'sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdb1'  can anyone confirm before i mess up?  =)
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> gief: if you can find how  the recent docs is stored yo ucan filter it
[23:28] <ohir> fil_: you need to install development packages
[23:28] <crux000> ((Theory: I have an external drive that I plug in using an esata PCMCIA card that just so happens to be 320 gigs))
[23:28] <Demonicdata> Uh http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=44517 this isn't a official gnome site is it?when i click download it takes me to a porn spam pothole,wtf?
[23:28] <Slart> doc_brown: you have a 250 GB usb drive?
[23:28] <doc_brown> no no no should be sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdd1
[23:28] <Anthony_> What's the ubuntu way of running something on startup as a particular user?
[23:28] <doc_brown> see slart!
[23:28] <gief> ActionParsnip: aah.. hmm thanks, maybe worth checkin in to, you have any pointers?
[23:28] <hskill> slart where in ubuntu do i configure the notification daemon
[23:28] <fil_> ohir: libgtk-dev? i have them
[23:28] <doc_brown> i need confirmation
[23:29] <Slart> doc_brown: so, you've got a 4GB usb drive?
[23:29] <doc_brown> Slart, thats it
[23:29] <Slart> hskill: I have no idea, really.. it might be somewhere in gnomes little registry thingy
[23:29] <Slart> doc_brown: then that looks correct
[23:29] <equinox123> on ubuntu how do you register a protocol? as when i try to download spotify play lists i get "spotify is not a registered protocol"?
[23:29] <ohir> fil_: look at configure logs. Can be it looks for header files in wrong places
[23:29] <Slart> doc_brown: if you have a gui you can use gparted to do the formatting for you.. point and click
[23:30] <VCoolio1> Demonicdata: right, first time I see that happening, please report to the moderators there
[23:30] <sere> how do i give root access to a user? will root:x:0:me work?
[23:30] <Dulak> Anthony_: the easy way would be to use su with what you want to run from /etc/rc.local which is the last thing ran on boot
[23:30] <ohir> fil_: if it does so you need give it --with-libblah=path_to_libsrc
[23:30] <Demonicdata> Vcoolio1 Ok i will
[23:30] <Slart> sere: root access? you mean sudo?
[23:30] <Dulak> sere: you can add a user to the admin group to give them sudo access: adduser username admin
[23:31] <Anthony_> Dulak, can I run it as a certain user with all the associated environment variables?
[23:31] <fil_> it just says No package 'gtk+-2.0' found?
[23:31] <Dulak> Anthony_ yes use "su - username /path/to/command" to get the full login environment  "man su" for more details
[23:31] <crux000> quick question: any parititioning / bios / etc experts around?
[23:32] <sere> slart,Dulak, i made my home dir. a different partition and now i cant install q3 w/ sudo
[23:32] <Zephryos> To Anyone: I'm installing Ubuntu 9.04to a USB Flash Drive 2.GB from the Live CD, how do I need to set up the partitions?
[23:32] <Dulak> sere: I don't understand what /home has to do with installing an app....
[23:32] <Slart> sere: do you get some kind of error message? what happens when you try?
[23:32] <VCoolio1> hskill: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NotifyOSD is the wiki for the Jaunty notification system, it may help you further.
[23:33] <gordonjcp> Zephryos: nearly all of it as /, and twice as much swap as you have RAM
[23:33] <whileimhere> I was wondering if anyone uses Rythmbox to listen to the lastfm.com? I cant figure out how to get them to talk to each other.
[23:33] <gordonjcp> Zephryos: 2GB isn't really enough though ;-)
[23:33] <Dulak> gordonjcp: swap on a usb stick??
[23:33] <ArrPirate> Hi! I need help. I have an ext3 partition I unmounted earlier with gparted and now I can't get it to mount again, even after a reboot
[23:33] <gordonjcp> whileimhere: why not just use lastfm
[23:33] <gordonjcp> Dulak: good point
[23:33] <gordonjcp> Zephryos: don't bother with swap
[23:33] <babi> boa noite
[23:33] <Robyn> Can anyone tell me how to enable japanese text entry (hiragana/katakana) on 9.04?
[23:33] <ArrPirate> says I'm not priveledged enough
[23:34] <ArrPirate> and it doesn't show up if I do a sudo nautilus in the terminal
[23:34] <Anthony_> Dulak, so....  su - vboxuser /i/forget/the/path/VBoxManage -startvm "Example VM"   would work? su wouldn't think -startvm was a parameter for itself?#
[23:34] <whileimhere> gordonjcp: I use the site now but figured that I could just use the Rthymbox program I normally have open anyways.
[23:34] <ohir> fil_: check if you have installed what it wants
[23:34] <Dulak> Anthony_: su - vboxuser -- /path/to/program -programoptionshere
[23:34] <sere> wow im dumb...didnt use sudo :p
[23:34]  * doc_brown really appreciates the help from #ubuntu Thanks!
[23:34] <fil_> ohir: gtk2, i have it
[23:34] <ohir> fil_: libgtk is not same as libktk2 nor libgtk+2
[23:35] <Dulak> Anthony_: the -- tells su everything after it is passed to the shell
[23:35] <ohir> fil_: if it wants '+' it wants exactly that
[23:35] <Demonicdata> hey were do I put downloaded icons or wallpapper etc,were does ubuntu-gnome keep its stuff?
[23:35] <fil_> ohir: thanks, I'll try
[23:36] <Anthony_> Dulak, excellent, thanks for your help, I'm suprised the VirtualBox install doesn't provide a script for this.
[23:36] <Elite_Design_Co> i have a problem with my ubuntu 9.04 in the jack audio server (sh: artsshell: not found)
[23:36] <VCoolio1> Demonicdata: icons in ~/.icons, wallpaper where ever you want
[23:36] <whileimhere> LOL I should just stick to CDs as I think I have all of them from the 80s
[23:36] <Slart> Demonicdata: I put mine in ~/backgrounds or something like that
[23:36] <ohir> fil_: and you need to have this lib with -dev (or get source and compile before)
[23:36] <Anthony_> for the purpose, not for editing local.start :)
[23:36] <Anthony_> I mean rc.local
[23:36] <Dulak> Anthony_: probably because it's an X program, I dont' know if that will work the way you want or not
[23:36] <fil_> ohir: it works, i had to get install libgtk2 :) THANK YOU
[23:36] <VCoolio1> Demonicdata: if you want the icons to be used in root applications (like Synaptic) as well, they go in /usr/share/icons
[23:36] <Robyn> Can anyone tell me how to enable japanese text entry (hiragana/katakana) on 9.04?
[23:37] <Demonicdata> So no commen pool of themes/icons etc.
[23:37] <Slart> Robyn: perhaps someone in #ubuntu-jp knows..
[23:37] <Robyn> ah, ty
[23:37] <Demonicdata> now it says unvalid themes.ugh bbiafm
[23:37] <Elite_Design_Co> I have a problem with my ubuntu 9.04 in the jack audio server (sh: artsshell: not found)
[23:37] <ohir> fil_: np
[23:37] <Slart> Demonicdata: wellm, there are some collections in /usr/share but I would keep them in your home folder..
[23:38] <twiglet> hello, i'm a complete linux noob and am in the process of building a fileserver for my home network, so far everything has gone well thanks to the mighty google but i've run into a slight problem with a 2nd hdd i've formated it with gparted and mounted it with PySDM and it's all gone wonderfully except the drive is showing that it's got ~9gb in use when it's should be blank can anyone enlighten me as to why this is?
[23:39] <Dulak> Demonicdata: yeah if it's just for your user, put them under your home dir
[23:39] <VCoolio1> Demonicdata: you can extract and move to ~/.themes, that would be the same as installing / drag and drop in appearance > themes window
[23:39] <Anthony_> Dulak, sorry, the command I meant was VBoxHeadless (no frontend there :))
[23:39] <muse> twiglet: how big is the drive
[23:39] <Dulak> Anthony_: cool, didn't even realize you could run it headless, I use vmware myself, got a site license through my company
[23:39] <crux000> Quick question ... is there a way to get ext3 (probably via e2fsprogs?) to report the size it thinks a drive is?
[23:39] <muse> twiglet: some of the space is reserved for root
[23:39] <twiglet> it's 596gb
[23:39] <Anthony_> Dulak,  one note though, it says rc.local is run at the end of each multiuserrunleve, does that mean it'll execute multiple times?
[23:40] <twiglet> (it's a raid 5 array)
[23:40] <Anthony_> *multiuser runlevel
[23:40] <muse> twiglet: do you want the partition to be used only for storage?
[23:40] <Dulak> Anthony_: it means it's the last thing ran whenever you are in a runlevel that allows multiple users to login, basically everything but recovery mode
[23:40] <eso> i was just about to ask how i make my webcam work, when i saw the light on it suddenly is on
[23:40] <eso> never has been
[23:40] <eso> :S
[23:40] <eso> anywho
[23:40] <twiglet> yes, sorry it's a storage drive only
[23:40] <eso> how can i see if it's actually working?
[23:40] <muse> you can limit the space super user needs
[23:40] <System404> hey guys why when i try to activate effects it says desktop effects could not be enabled
[23:40] <Zephryos> gordonjcp: So fat32 /dev/sda1 2031mb, Primary partition sound right
[23:40] <crisnoh> /join #awesome
[23:41] <Anthony_> Dulak, I thought during but you went through several runlevels?
[23:41] <eso> seems like Ekiga doesn't find it
[23:41] <Dulak> Anthony_: it'll only be ran once per boot, unless you manually change runlevels
[23:41] <gordonjcp> Zephryos: no, you want to make that ext3
[23:41] <Anthony_> *duuring boot
[23:41] <Anthony_> ah, ok
[23:41] <gordonjcp> !ops | crisnoh
[23:41] <Dulak> Anthony_: the run levels it goes through during boot are not multiuser until the end
[23:41] <System404> hey guys why when i try to activate effects it says desktop effects could not be enabled
[23:41] <twiglet> ah ok, how would i do that?
[23:41] <Flannel> gordonjcp: Eh?
[23:41] <muse> twiglet: sudo tune2fs -m1 /dev/yourdev
[23:41] <gordonjcp> Flannel: joined, spammed a channel
[23:41] <LjL> gordonjcp: that might be a bit...? he might have just done it by mistake
[23:41] <Dulak> Anthony_: runlevels 2 3 4 5 are multiuser, 0, 1, 6 are not
[23:41]  * twiglet gives it a go
[23:42] <DBO> crisnoh, please dont advertise other channels here
[23:42] <gordonjcp> LjL: maybe
[23:42] <System404> hey guys why when i try to activate effects it says desktop effects could not be enabled
[23:42] <Flannel> gordonjcp: Likely a typo.  It happens all the time.
[23:42] <Slart> System404: what graphics card are you using?
[23:42] <System404> intel
[23:42] <muse> twiglet: remember to chacnge the device name to your hd
[23:42] <EugenMayer> anybody using linphone with ubuntu+gnome? Can i search contacts?
[23:42] <System404> i had it working before cant member how but i screwed up my ubuntu so have a fresh install now gta do everything again arghhhh
[23:42] <Robyn> #ubuntu-jp is dead, Slart.  Anything else I can try?
[23:42] <Slart> System404: mm.. there was some problems with intel and jaunty.. not sure if that is what's affecting you
[23:42] <gordonjcp> Flannel: right after joining a channel, within a few seconds?  Possibly... o_O
[23:42] <System404> it was working before
[23:43] <Flannel> gordonjcp: Yeah, it happens all the time
[23:43] <muse> twiglet: you can find what your hd is by running this `sudo lshw -c disk`
[23:43] <System404> but fresh install and cant member how we got it working
[23:43] <DBO> gordonjcp, please at least inform the other person what they did wrong before calling !ops... really simply saying "hey, can you not spam channel advertisments" is not difficult =P
[23:43] <LjL> gordonjcp: quite possibly, since one would generally be joining several channels in a row when they connect
[23:43] <System404> i have installed compiz
[23:43] <crux000> @$#$#@$#@$#@$#@
[23:43] <System404> if that helps
[23:43] <crux000> gah!
[23:43] <twiglet> ah, thats kinda worked it's now only using 6gb
[23:43] <Slart> Robyn: not really, no.. you might ask in #ubuntu-cn, the chinese channel.. but I'm not sure if they will know either
[23:43] <crux000> I am seriously decafinated: trying to figure out why my laptop's hard drive was full.... while connected to a server via SSH!
[23:44] <bin10101> i have two ethernet interfaces while installing ubuntu 9.04 server on virtualbox...during the install it asked which was the main one, i picked eth0.  Now that I am using the VM i no longer have eth0 and eth1, but I have eth0 which works fine and virbr0.  Virbr0 does not work at all.  in /etc/network/interfaces there are only eth0 and lo....what is going on?  Should I add eth1 or should I add virbr0 to the interfaces file? or what?
[23:44] <muse> twiglet: what that command did was limit the % that root reserves from 5% to 1%
[23:44] <System404> slart any ideas
[23:44] <muse> twiglet: I don't recommend going any lower
[23:44] <muse> than 1% that is
[23:44] <twiglet> ok
[23:45] <Slart> System404: nope.. don't know how to fix intel cards.. sorry
[23:45] <Slart> !intel
[23:45] <Slart> ahh
[23:45] <twiglet> thanks for your help :)
[23:45] <muse> twiglet: well that's all then?
[23:45] <muse> np
[23:45] <twiglet> yes
[23:45] <twiglet> i think for now
[23:45] <twiglet> i'm sure i'll be back at some point
[23:45] <twiglet> this is the first times i've used linux
[23:46] <twiglet> and it's all a bit odd comming from a win background
[23:46] <sere> what is the best way to give root access to a ntfs-3g partition in the fstab?
[23:46] <gordonjcp> twiglet: bah
[23:46] <twiglet> but i think i have the basics down
[23:46] <gordonjcp> twiglet: you think that's odd, you just try getting your head around Windows coming from a Unix background
[23:46] <twiglet> heh, i can imagine
[23:46] <muse> haha
[23:46] <System404> Slart it says i should update to latest kernal how do i do that
[23:47] <System404> current kernal ends in 11 latest i fink ends in 12
[23:47] <twiglet> i finally got annoyed enough with windows to give linux a go on me server
[23:47] <Slart> System404: "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" should take care of that
[23:47] <System404> fanks slart
[23:47] <CraiZE> Hello, I just put Ubuntu 9.04 onto my USB stick, im trying to get my nvidia GFX card to work, but its not letting me
[23:47] <Dulak> twiglet: been running windows for a couple days then?  ;)
[23:47] <twiglet> tho i'll have hard time giving it up as i need my games ;)
[23:47] <gordonjcp> twiglet: cool, what are you using the server for?
[23:47] <rogue780> !lamp
[23:47] <twiglet> lol, many many years now
[23:48] <CraiZE> I went to Administration - Hardware drivers, and enabled it, restarted, yet its still not activated
[23:48] <gordonjcp> twiglet: depending on what games you have, you may either find native versions or be able to run them in Wine
[23:48] <gordonjcp> twiglet: or, of course, keep a Windows partition about
[23:48] <CraiZE> would anyone be so kind and help me out, or tell me how to kill the X-Server?
[23:48] <sonartica> It's easy
[23:48] <twiglet> just for serving files across my home network, mianly video/music to some htpcs and possibly as a test webserver
[23:48] <CraiZE> as i downloaded the driver manually, and it doesnt want X server to be running
[23:48] <sonartica> Just press ctrl + alt + backspace
[23:49] <gordonjcp> CraiZE: /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[23:49] <mobi-sheep> CraiZE: Illogical.  One does not kill the other.
[23:49] <gordonjcp> sonartica: that doesn't work in recent versions of xorg
[23:49] <CraiZE> thanks goose
[23:49] <CraiZE> gordonjcp
[23:49] <mobi-sheep> !dontzap | CraiZE
[23:49] <gordonjcp> twiglet: looked at mythtv yet?
[23:49] <goose> lol. you're welcome CraiZE :p
[23:49] <wOPr> anyone can tell me please the meaning of that error?  http://pastie.org/485913
[23:50] <sonartica> btw
[23:50] <sonartica> I have problems with my banshee
[23:50] <sonartica> Can anyone help? O:O
[23:50] <twiglet> a few years ago, i'm using xbmc with the aeon skin atm as i don't require tv capture or anything related to it for now
[23:50] <sonartica> ;O;
[23:50] <Slart> Here's something to think about.. I have a headless server sitting in my closet.. every now and then I have to restart it.. now.. when I restart it I sometimes notice that it doesn't boot all the way (I can't ssh to it).. and I would like to know if it's checking a disk, showing some error or something.. any suggestions on how to do that? I've already managed to route some info to the internal speaker (using espeak) but that doesn't work during boot
[23:50] <sonartica> I have problems with my banshee
[23:50] <michael> im trying to update my system using the update manager
[23:51] <michael> but i get this error
[23:51] <System404> what is this
[23:51] <System404> Warning: Screen isn't composited. Please run compiz (-fusion) or another compositing manager.
[23:51] <System404> slart i did those updates it didnt update my kernal
[23:51] <michael> GPG error: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 58403026387EE263Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/universe/binary-i386/Packages  404 Not Found
[23:51] <michael> ah sorry
[23:51] <Slart> System404: then I don't know.. I've never installed a kernel that didn't come from the repos
[23:52] <System404> the last time it just came in an update that popped up
[23:52] <System404> i didnt lokk for it it just appeared and updated
[23:52] <michael> i've been trying to update using update manager but i keep getting this error... any ideas?
[23:52] <michael> http://paste.ubuntu.com/177501/
[23:52] <System404> maybe i need other repositories
[23:52] <eso> how do i install my creative live pro webcam?
[23:53] <michael> maybe because i'm on 9.04, but it's looking for edgy?  just throwing it out there.. lol
[23:53] <System404> anyone know how to go about getting latest kernal update
[23:53] <hacktolive> hi guys, can anyone tell me if it is dangerous to do "chmod a+x" to a file instead of "chmod +x"? I know "a" stands for "all users". the problem is that someone said this was a security risk with "App Runner": http://tinyurl.com/olprwn (is this really a security problem?)
[23:53] <Zephryos> gordonjcp: Got a popup.. "You have no selected any partitions for use as swap space, its recommended. You may experience isntallation probs if you dont have enough physical memory.  I BELEIVE this laptop has 708mb ram on it... just hti continue?
[23:54] <gordonjcp> Zephryos: yeah go for it
[23:54] <gordonjcp> Zephryos: swap on flash isn't a great idea
[23:54] <gordonjcp> Zephryos: no swap at all isn't a great idea, either
[23:54] <System404> anyone know how to go about getting latest kernal update
[23:55] <DumbDude> hi
[23:55] <muse> Slart: I think there is a startup log that gets filled in as you boot up, although I am not 100% sure if it was on ubuntu? You could run a script that sent the log to your pc with tft at regular intervals.
[23:56] <System404> how to add restricted repo
[23:58] <Zephryos> gordonjcp: I'll be able to plug this into my main computer here and pull files/put files on the drive correct?
[23:58] <gordonjcp> should do, yes
[23:58] <gordonjcp> Zephryos: you'll have crazyness like your homedir will mount as /media/disk/home/zephyros or some such
[23:59] <Zephryos> gordonjcp: What o.o;;; oooo ok on ubuntu not vista
[23:59] <hskill> what's a good twitter client for ubuntu?
[23:59] <Slart> muse: mm.. I'll have a look.. hardest thing might be to start some software before the startup is complete
[23:59] <Slart> muse: thanks