| lex79 | need ack here: | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| lex79 | launchpad bug 379235 | 00:00 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 379235 in qt-creator "Request for removal from archive" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/379235 | 00:00 |
| ScottK | lex79: looking | 00:03 |
| Riddell | lex79: done | 00:03 |
| lex79 | great | 00:03 |
| * ScottK stops looking | 00:03 | |
| Riddell | sleep time | 00:03 |
| ScottK | nini | 00:03 |
| lex79 | night Riddell | 00:03 |
| ScottK | lex79: Don't we just want the source removed? The binary is still needed as the transitional package. | 00:04 |
| lex79 | oh | 00:04 |
| * ScottK fixors | 00:05 | |
| ScottK | Actually not, Riddell did the removal. No problem though, it'll come back with qtcreator. | 00:05 |
| lex79 | ScottK: sorry | 00:06 |
| ScottK | It's not a problem in this case. | 00:06 |
| lex79 | luckily :) | 00:08 |
| ScottK | lex79: It doesn't look like your transitional package actually got created though | 00:08 |
| ScottK | Nevermind | 00:09 |
| ScottK | Actually it was already through New and got probably got removed. | 00:09 |
| ScottK | Let's get it a couple of hours and check. | 00:09 |
| lex79 | ok | 00:10 |
| * ryanakca wonders if there'll be IPv6 at the hotel | 00:29 | |
| vorian | ScottK: that is great news | 01:12 |
| * vorian is upgrading now | 01:21 | |
| vorian | what is the proper command to use force overwrite? | 01:51 |
| JontheEchidna | dpkg -i --force-overwrite | 01:52 |
| vorian | hrm | 01:52 |
| vorian | it's no workie | 01:52 |
| vorian | so, lets say it's kdebase-runtime-data which has ben apt-gotten, what say ye then JontheEchidna | 01:53 |
| vorian | ? | 01:53 |
| Gonium | why kpackagekit use a gtk gui to get permissions ? | 01:59 |
| Gonium | :s | 01:59 |
| lubyou | Gonium check if installing policykit-kde changes anything for you | 02:05 |
| * Gonium looking | 02:05 | |
| JontheEchidna | vorian: sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /path/to/deb isn't working? | 02:08 |
| Gon | lubyou, thanks, noy shows a qt gui :B | 02:18 |
| Gon | now* | 02:18 |
| lubyou | :) | 02:19 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: hehe, funny seeing you in an opensuse shirt ;-) | 02:24 |
| Daskreech | Why does everyone force overwrite? | 02:29 |
| Daskreech | I normally just remove packages which makes other packages install automatically | 02:29 |
| ScottK | Last test I did I didn't need to over-write, just apt-get -f install | 02:51 |
| Viper550 | has anyone heard of Arora? | 03:05 |
| ScottK | Viper550: Yes, we have a package of it. | 03:06 |
| Viper550 | oh good. I'm told he finally added opensearch support to it | 03:06 |
| Tonio_ | Viper550: you should also consider rekonq, which is also based on qtwebkit, but a native kde app :) | 03:09 |
| Viper550 | Arora just looks nicer, and has opensearch support now too | 03:10 |
| Tonio_ | Viper550: yup | 03:11 |
| Tonio_ | I notice we don't have a package for rekonq.... maybe I should consider packaging this one | 03:11 |
| Daskreech | I Aroa is what qt app? | 03:13 |
| Viper550 | Daskreech, Arora is this Qt-based WebKit browser | 03:13 |
| Daskreech | But not KDE | 03:14 |
| Viper550 | http://code.google.com/p/arora/ | 03:14 |
| Daskreech | What's the virtues of rekonq? | 03:15 |
| Daskreech | or what are the virtues of rekonq ? | 03:15 |
| Viper550 | looks like it links with KDE better | 03:17 |
| Daskreech | I didn't mean over Arora :) I just meant what would make me choose it as a browser | 03:19 |
| lex79 | Tonio_: are you around? | 04:17 |
| Tonio_ | lex79: quickly :) | 04:18 |
| lex79 | Tonio_: launchpad bug 378185 | 04:18 |
| lex79 | launchpad bug 378185 | 04:18 |
| ubottu | Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/378185/+text) | 04:18 |
| ubottu | Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/378185/+text) | 04:18 |
| lex79 | uhm | 04:18 |
| lex79 | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kmplayer/+bug/378185 | 04:18 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 378185 in kmplayer "Merge from debian unstable kmplayer 0.11.1a" [Undecided,New] | 04:19 |
| lex79 | I had subscribed to you | 04:19 |
| lex79 | to avoid your upload but did not work, | 04:23 |
| lex79 | you have done the same | 04:23 |
| ScottK | Anyone else working on fixing over-write problems? | 04:24 |
| vorian | i don't have a desktop :( | 04:25 |
| ScottK | Ouch | 04:25 |
| lex79 | ScottK: over-write problems? in kde beta release? | 04:25 |
| vorian | i have applications, a pannel, but the desktop is gone and the plasma thingy in the top right corner | 04:25 |
| ScottK | lex79: Yes | 04:25 |
| ScottK | There's a few left | 04:26 |
| lex79 | I'm not working on that | 04:26 |
| lex79 | Tonio_: I think you have to looking launchpad (or your subscribe bugs, or your email) before upload your packages, 4 times (4 my packages) is too many | 04:30 |
| lex79 | and also, in kmplayer there are some changes to merge from debian, missing in your package | 04:31 |
| Tonio_ | lex79: ouch.... | 04:32 |
| Tonio_ | lex79: you're right.... that's the problem of working on ubuntu at 5h30 am... | 04:33 |
| lex79 | okey | 04:34 |
| ScottK | Tonio_: I was looking at merging kdebindings. Feel free to steal that one from me. | 04:35 |
| Tonio_ | lex79: the thing is that I really dislike to watch at launchpad for every new little update... | 04:35 |
| Tonio_ | ScottK shouldn't we try to improve this a little bit ? | 04:35 |
| ScottK | Yes. | 04:36 |
| Tonio_ | ScottK when non members are working on packages, the whole dev cycle ends up in being like a feature freeze | 04:36 |
| Tonio_ | then looking at debian/revu/launchpad/mailing lists just to guess who is working on what, at the moment and then working on the package.... | 04:36 |
| ScottK | That or just discuss what you're working on here. | 04:36 |
| Tonio_ | it's messy, since I for example have very limited time right now... | 04:37 |
| Tonio_ | lex79: first you have to become a motu, that'll help you a lot :) | 04:37 |
| lex79 | maybe I need sponsor like you | 04:38 |
| Tonio_ | lex79: yup | 04:38 |
| Tonio_ | lex79: the thing is that I receive so many emails than I barelly look at launchpad bugs before working a package | 04:38 |
| Tonio_ | lex79: then for debian, well I generally look, but indeed I didn't for kmplayer :) | 04:39 |
| lex79 | you can upload this: | 04:39 |
| lex79 | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lemonpos/+bug/379193 | 04:39 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 379193 in lemonpos "New upstream release lemonpos 0.8" [Undecided,New] | 04:39 |
| lex79 | muahahah :) | 04:39 |
| Tonio_ | lex79: we just seem to naturally work on the same packages, which never happened to me before :) | 04:39 |
| Tonio_ | lex79: and sure I appreciate this, hehe | 04:40 |
| lex79 | ahahah | 04:40 |
| Tonio_ | lex79: so maybe we can try this : email me directly instead of writting new bugs | 04:40 |
| lex79 | okey Frenchman :) | 04:41 |
| Tonio_ | lex79: that especially is unproductive since most people won't look at the bugs during the normal dev cycle, as this is out of the process | 04:41 |
| Tonio_ | lex79: so here is the proposal, when you have a package, either ping here or email me, uploading the source package somewhere I can dget it | 04:41 |
| lex79 | understand, ok | 04:41 |
| Tonio_ | lex79: and I'm sure it'll be a lot better for both of us :) | 04:41 |
| lex79 | sure, thanks | 04:42 |
| Tonio_ | and really I'm happy not to be lonely on what I used to work on for 4 years now, hehe :) | 04:42 |
| lex79 | :) | 04:43 |
| Tonio_ | lex79: the problem in being alone is that I developped a very egotistic and selfish way to work, as you noticed :) | 04:44 |
| Tonio_ | lex79: but despite being this and the fact I'm french, I'm a nice guy :) | 04:45 |
| Tonio_ | hehe | 04:45 |
| Tonio_ | ScottK, lex79: I'm wondering if microblogging would be a nice way to know quickly who is working on what at the moment | 04:46 |
| Tonio_ | twitter or something... | 04:46 |
| ScottK | Tonio_: I'm not going to twitter. | 04:47 |
| lex79 | Tonio_: maybe is a good way | 04:47 |
| Tonio_ | ScottK -> or something :) | 04:47 |
| ScottK | I often mention what I'm working on here. | 04:47 |
| Tonio_ | ScottK sure, but when I want to package something, how can I know easilly if there is someone already doing this ? | 04:47 |
| Tonio_ | before it was easy, since we were a small team, and I was pretty alone on what I package... | 04:47 |
| Tonio_ | with the team growing, this has become (for good reasons) pretty complicated... | 04:48 |
| Tonio_ | ScottK have a problem with twitter ? :) | 04:48 |
| lex79 | Tonio_: I think is complicated only for update from kde-apps | 04:48 |
| lex79 | and other little updates | 04:49 |
| ScottK | Tonio_: Never used it. | 04:49 |
| Tonio_ | lex79: sure, I'm anly talking about the concept behind this | 04:49 |
| lex79 | yes | 04:49 |
| Tonio_ | we have to many packages/info sources | 04:49 |
| Tonio_ | I'm complaining this at work, so I do here :) | 04:49 |
| Tonio_ | well lex79 at the moment, lett's try to work together to avoid duplication, and I'll be very hapy to sponsor you :) | 04:50 |
| Tonio_ | and help you become a motu so that you can be independant from me :) | 04:50 |
| lex79 | ahahah :) | 04:50 |
| lex79 | ok thanks Tonio_ | 04:51 |
| Tonio_ | lex79: you're welcome :) | 04:51 |
| Tonio_ | last php updates broken lighttpd on hardy..... thanks to the QA.... | 04:51 |
| Tonio_ | sh*t... | 04:51 |
| Tonio_ | (mod_fastcgi.c.1029) the fastcgi-backend /usr/bin/php-cgi -c /etc/php5/cgi/php.ini failed to start: | 04:52 |
| Tonio_ | that's REALLY bad... we have lots of hardy servers in production at work using lighttpd | 04:52 |
| Tonio_ | nice day in perspective :) | 04:52 |
| lex79 | Tonio_: time to sleep in our countries :) night | 04:53 |
| Tonio_ | lex79: night :) | 04:53 |
| Tonio_ | lex79: lemonpos uploaded | 05:07 |
| ScottK | Wow. python-qt4 even built on hppa. | 05:14 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: I encourage you to compare -workspace in the PPA and Karmic. I think there are some changes that both need from the other, but I'm not messing with it beyond the changes i did. | 05:20 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: I'd also have the same thought for -runtime. There's differences between the two packages (PPA/Karmic) that i think shouldn't be there, but you're closer to it than me. | 05:57 |
| ScottK | OK. Fixes uploaded for PPA and Karmic for all the conflicts errors I hit last time i tested. | 05:59 |
| Lure | Riddell: nice openSuse shirt | 06:21 |
| * Lure is waitig for suse guy in kubuntu shirt | 06:21 | |
| Lure | and great to see freeflying in canonical team | 06:21 |
| jussi01 | Riddell: when is that gwenview crasher bug fix going to be uploaded? I want my gwenview back! :D | 06:39 |
| Quintasan | Hello! | 07:03 |
| nixternal | Lure: that is the same exact openSUSE shirt I have! /me goes and checks his closet to see if Riddell snagged it when I wasn't looking | 07:06 |
| nixternal | Novell gave out some killer t-shirts yesterday when I was visiting them | 07:06 |
| nixternal | and a really nice laptop bag, a nice hat, some groovy software...wanted to win their custom netbook, but I didn't :( | 07:06 |
| Lure | nixternal: are you moving to opensuse? ;-) | 07:18 |
| nixternal | nope | 07:18 |
| nixternal | I will say though, Novell has some rockin' stuff...I was at their IT in Action Tour all day yesterday | 07:19 |
| Lure | nixternal: opensuse is cool, I just hate rpm/zyper & stuff | 07:19 |
| nixternal | ditto | 07:30 |
| Mamarok | nixternal: that might be the reason why Riddell wears an OpenSuse shirt in Barcelona then... ;) | 09:04 |
| === olujicz_ is now known as olujicz | ||
| Nightrose | final tagging for amarok 2.1 is planned for next friday - is anyone working on a backport for jaunty of beta 2? I would love me some more testing | 12:35 |
| Riddell | Nightrose: I am a bit but it's quite tricky, the qtscript generator package is hard to backport | 13:08 |
| Riddell | seems to be compiling now though | 13:08 |
| Nightrose | thx Riddell :) | 13:08 |
| Nightrose | i thougt there was a package for the generator already | 13:09 |
| Riddell | not for jaunty | 13:10 |
| Riddell | and the one in karmic needs newer debhelper and quilts | 13:11 |
| Riddell | hmm, I crashed gmail again | 13:13 |
| === bdefreese2 is now known as bddebian | ||
| sebas | Anyone else with no sound from Flash, but Qt apps are OK? | 13:22 |
| sebas | I've removed pulseaudio stuff already, that usually fixed the sound problems for me | 13:23 |
| nixternal | mine usually works | 13:23 |
| sebas | mine doesn't, on two machines | 13:24 |
| sebas | And I've no idea where to control the flash sound | 13:25 |
| sebas | audio under Linux is still an awful mess, and pulseaudio has only made it worse for me | 13:25 |
| * sebas officially declares sound worse than graphics | 13:26 | |
| sebas | (which is sad) | 13:26 |
| Mamarok | is there a timeline for getting the kdebase-dev files in KDE 4.3 ? | 13:28 |
| Mamarok | I would love to be able to compile again on this machine... | 13:29 |
| Mamarok | actually, the ideal would be to have the kde-devel metapackage again... | 13:30 |
| Mamarok | sebas: check the alsa-script made by tchen, solved it for me here | 13:31 |
| Mamarok | you probably have still some .*rc files in your home that prevent also from working correctly | 13:31 |
| sebas | any reference? | 13:31 |
| sebas | What kind of *rc files? | 13:32 |
| Mamarok | .asoundrc for example | 13:32 |
| sebas | (a lot of apps name their files *rc) | 13:32 |
| JontheEchidna | ScottK: bzr should be good now for -workspace | 13:32 |
| Mamarok | not in .kde, but directly in your folder | 13:32 |
| * sebas doesn't have that | 13:32 | |
| Mamarok | made by pulse | 13:32 |
| sebas | Yeah, pulse is not on my system | 13:33 |
| Mamarok | sebas: you removed it, right? | 13:33 |
| sebas | yes | 13:33 |
| sebas | In order to get anything to play, removing pulse* is the best bet I know of | 13:33 |
| Mamarok | sebas: but it's likely there still are some leftovers made by pulse in your system, go check with find, you would be astonished | 13:34 |
| sebas | I wouldn't know where and what to look for | 13:34 |
| sebas | And I never used pulse, first thing to get sound is, as I said, ditch pulse | 13:34 |
| Mamarok | somebody should burry pulseaudio beneath the Chernobyl reactor sarcophagus, deep, deep inside | 13:34 |
| sebas | And other sound works, I'm just struggling to find out where fash sends its sound | 13:34 |
| sebas | skype, kscd and stuff all is fine | 13:35 |
| Mamarok | sebas: but it was installed and hijacked your sound and modified your settings, welcome to Ubuntu... | 13:35 |
| sebas | *where* would it do that? | 13:35 |
| JontheEchidna | ScottK: ...once I push it, that is | 13:35 |
| ScottK | Heh | 13:35 |
| sebas | The only asound* I have is in /etc/ld.so.conf | 13:36 |
| nixternal | heh, I just read an interview with the fedora guy who is working on their audio, and he praised Pulse Audio | 13:37 |
| nixternal | I thought PA was handed down from the Gods :p | 13:37 |
| ScottK | Wrong direction. | 13:38 |
| Mamarok | nixternal: it works, but only on Gnome and with gstreamer | 13:38 |
| sebas | That's a transscript from an interview with Lennart | 13:38 |
| Mamarok | forget it with xine | 13:38 |
| sebas | he wrote pulse and thinks it's the best since sliced bread | 13:38 |
| Mamarok | sebas: check here for the test script: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Main_Page | 13:38 |
| nixternal | it crashes like crazy in gnome, for me...but i have read of people crying because of it :) | 13:38 |
| nixternal | I guess it works well on broken platforms :p | 13:39 |
| sebas | While he's a cavalier guy hating KDE and ignoring all the problems pulse brings | 13:39 |
| Mamarok | why would one need pulse when alsa can handle nearly everything? | 13:39 |
| Mamarok | sebas: Lennart, you mean the jdub buddy? ... | 13:40 |
| sebas | Mamarok: does that have anything to do with flash? | 13:40 |
| sebas | My sound works in general ... | 13:40 |
| sebas | I'm not looking for general sound stuff, that's fine already | 13:40 |
| Mamarok | sebas: shouldn, flash works fine here now, once dtchen helped me debug the sound and get rid of the modifications made by pulse | 13:40 |
| sebas | I need to know what flash does with its sound, and how I get it to use "normal alsa" | 13:40 |
| Mamarok | but before that it hijaked the sound systematically | 13:41 |
| sebas | Do you have anything more precise than "the alsa wiki"? | 13:41 |
| Mamarok | and the second video you try to play only gives you hacked noise | 13:41 |
| * sebas has *no sound* *at all* from flash, on two machines | 13:42 | |
| Mamarok | sebas: there's a link for a test script, moment... | 13:42 |
| Mamarok | sebas: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh | 13:42 |
| * Quintasan wonders who else he should poke about "fixing" rsibreak | 13:44 | |
| * Mamarok has to go, bbl | 13:45 | |
| ScottK | Quintasan: What's broken with it? | 13:46 |
| sebas | So that script doesn't find any pulse stuff at all | 13:46 |
| sebas | Now, does anybody know what flashs does with its sound? | 13:46 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: nothing, just changed the build-deps, I was supposed to send rgreening a debdiff but he is not here | 13:46 |
| ScottK | I see. | 13:46 |
| ScottK | He should be around later. | 13:47 |
| Quintasan | I guess I will work on mailody | 13:48 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: It looks like somehow you reverted that last two -workspace uploads from bzr. Would you please double check your changes. | 13:54 |
| jussi01 | Riddell: ping | 13:59 |
| ScottK | sebas: Since dtchen is in the channel, the best bet is just wait for him to react. | 14:00 |
| sebas | aight | 14:00 |
| === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan | ||
| ScottK | Who has tried the KDE4 version of webdev? Is it reasonable except lacking Quanta? | 14:24 |
| jussi01 | ScottK: are you with Riddell in spain yet? | 14:30 |
| ScottK | jussi01: No. Only Canonical people are there this week. I fly tomorrow. | 14:31 |
| jussi01 | ahh | 14:31 |
| jussi01 | ok. | 14:31 |
| Quintasan | rgreening: ping | 14:31 |
| jussi01 | ScottK: are you aware of the fix to the gwenview crasherbug Riddell mentions in his blog? | 14:31 |
| ScottK | jussi01: I'm not, but it could probably be fished out of the KDE svn if someone were motivated enough. | 14:32 |
| Quintasan | rgreening: http://pastebin.com/f51cadf8c <-- rsibreak debdiff | 14:33 |
| jussi01 | ScottK: hrm, What does that take? Im a bit weak with this so not much I can do, just have to hope JontheEchidna is motivated to do it. | 14:33 |
| Quintasan | rgreening: http://pastebin.com/f2178516c <-- mailody-kde4 debdiff | 14:33 |
| jussi01 | or someone else around here... | 14:34 |
| ScottK | Quintasan: For rsibreak we also need to drop the build-dep on libplasma-dev. | 14:35 |
| Quintasan | scomar: I did that too :) | 14:36 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: ^ | 14:36 |
| ScottK | OK. Good. | 14:36 |
| * Quintasan is going to do more but watching comes first today | 14:36 | |
| nixternal | ScottK: webdev in trunk has quanta | 14:38 |
| nixternal | been messing with it | 14:38 |
| ScottK | How is it? | 14:38 |
| nixternal | thus far it works...I know they are planning on doing more once they have rocked out kdevplatform | 14:39 |
| rgreening | Quintasan: ty. I'll work on them shortly. | 14:41 |
| Quintasan | rgreening: np :) | 14:42 |
| ScottK | OK. New transition wiki page: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/ScottKitterman/Libplasma-Dev | 14:45 |
| ScottK | Quintasan: Feel free to take credit for rsibreak. | 14:45 |
| === ScottK changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Alpha 1 out! | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuKarmicSpecs | Sync/Merges: http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/multidistrotools/kubuntu-desktop.html | Be careful whilst packaging | Transitions: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/rgreening/KarmicPhononPackages and https://wiki.kubuntu.org/ScottKitterman/Libplasma-Dev | ||
| nixternal | how come you goofballs can't do === Wiki Headings === correctly? :P | 14:51 |
| ScottK | nixternal: Because you need something to do. | 14:52 |
| davmor2 | nixternal: I can :P | 14:52 |
| ScottK | Anyone feel free to fixor. wiki is not my strong suit. | 14:54 |
| knro | Hi, is Johnathon here? | 15:10 |
| knro | Ok, at any rate, there is a bug with the way KStars is packaged, rendering telescope support useless. I asked Johnathon that I'd like to maintain KStars, in addition to INDI and associated packages since I happen to be the upstream developer and will also insure that they work fine. I just joined the MOTU and I'm familiar with packaging for Ubuntu/Debian. What's the next step? Should I download KStars source package maintained by John and "update" it? | 15:13 |
| tsimpson | the best thing would probably be to file a bug against the package, if it doesn't exist, and assign to yourself. then put up a debdiff | 15:14 |
| nixternal | it does exist, that I know | 15:16 |
| knro | tsimpson: Ok, will do that. Is there way to be the active maintainer for the package? | 15:16 |
| nixternal | knro: it is just change indi build dep to libindi right? | 15:16 |
| knro | nixternal: yes, and INDI v0.5 should no longer be built at all. | 15:17 |
| tsimpson | the maintainer will be "Kubuntu Developers <kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com>" | 15:17 |
| tsimpson | rather than an individual person | 15:17 |
| nixternal | knro: right, we discussed that just recently as well, I know I brought it up just a few weeks ago | 15:17 |
| knro | Ok, great. | 15:17 |
| knro | nixternal: has this issue been fixed? | 15:18 |
| nixternal | I do not believe so, but don't quote me on that...I know it is still broken in Jaunty | 15:18 |
| knro | That I can confirm from the list of complaints I received, and just tried it today myself. | 15:19 |
| tsimpson | !info indi jaunty | 15:19 |
| tsimpson | !info indi karmic | 15:19 |
| ubottu | indi (source: indi): INDI, instrument neutral distributed interface. In component main, is optional. Version 5:0.5-0ubuntu6 (jaunty), package size 625 kB, installed size 1600 kB | 15:19 |
| ubottu | indi (source: indi): INDI, instrument neutral distributed interface. In component main, is optional. Version 5:0.5-0ubuntu6 (karmic), package size 625 kB, installed size 1600 kB | 15:19 |
| knro | see, INDI is obsolete. | 15:19 |
| knro | it was replaced by libindi | 15:19 |
| knro | the problem is that KStars was not built against libindi, that's all. | 15:20 |
| knro | both indi and libindi are in the repository, two conflicting packages. INDI v0.5 must be removed. | 15:20 |
| tsimpson | there is 0.6-0ubuntu1 in both jaunty and karmic | 15:20 |
| tsimpson | libindi0 | 15:20 |
| knro | yes, that's the right one. | 15:21 |
| tsimpson | perhaps libindi0 should conflict/replace indi too | 15:22 |
| knro | yes, it should replace it. | 15:23 |
| knro | the question is, how do I ask for that? file a bug report?? | 15:23 |
| tsimpson | yeah, file a bug and fix it :) | 15:24 |
| knro | hehe ok, will do that then. | 15:24 |
| knro | ah well, been fixed already :) | 15:27 |
| Quintasan | hmmm kadu has no build-depend on libphonon-dev, or I'm blind | 15:27 |
| === santiago-pgsql is now known as santiago-ve | ||
| ScottK | The problem (with Indi) in Jaunty is that the correct one is in Universe, so we can't build kdeedu against it. | 15:29 |
| nixternal | oh right, and we (Riddell) did fix that in Karmic by running the magic script to push it into Main | 15:31 |
| tsimpson | Quintasan: looks like it doesn't use phonon | 15:32 |
| Quintasan | tsimpson: thanks, I thought it's just me :P | 15:33 |
| ScottK | rgreening: Trying to fix the current bindings to build didn't work either. it needs a guru (i.e. not me) | 15:35 |
| knro | ScottK: Universe is the primary repository for the stable Jaunty? | 15:37 |
| ScottK | knro: No. Each release is divided up into Main/Universe (and some others for non-free stuff). | 15:40 |
| ScottK | Main is the stuff that has official support (e.g. security fixes) from Canonical. | 15:40 |
| knro | ScottK: Have to read a bit about that, been using SUSE since 99. | 15:40 |
| ScottK | Stuff in Main can't build depend on stuff in Universe. | 15:40 |
| knro | So KStars in Main, but libindi in Universe? | 15:41 |
| tsimpson | in jaunty, yes | 15:42 |
| vishalrao | do i dare do an aptitude safe-upgrade on my kubuntu karmic VM ? :) | 15:43 |
| ScottK | vishalrao: It's got safe in the name, so what could go wrong? | 15:45 |
| ScottK | ;-) | 15:45 |
| vishalrao | :-D | 15:45 |
| Riddell | Nightrose: http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/tmp/amarok/ uterly untested | 15:46 |
| nixternal | ScottK: how current of bindings? | 15:47 |
| ScottK | nixternal: Bindings didn't release with the beta. Neither our current (4.2.2 - didn't try 4.2.3) nor svn trunk will build. | 15:47 |
| nixternal | bindings have been broke for over a week now and it is still being worked on | 15:47 |
| ScottK | Right, so it'd be decent to at least have what's in the repo now ~working | 15:48 |
| nixternal | hrmm, I had bindings building just find from trunk for the past few months | 15:48 |
| nixternal | just recently they went to hell due to changes with the kssl cert manager | 15:48 |
| ScottK | nixternal: Perhaps you can step back to a snapshot that works and we can have goodness again. | 15:48 |
| nixternal | as long as you have the proper deps, the default cmake file should do the trick...it is when we start getting a goofy ass rules file that all hell breaks loose | 15:49 |
| rgreening | that would be awesome. | 15:49 |
| rgreening | akonadi changes in trunk still break bindings | 15:50 |
| rgreening | not compatible with akonadi 1.1.85 | 15:50 |
| nixternal | the akonadi stuff built fine in trunk just now, kssl and soprano are broken | 15:51 |
| nixternal | they are adding a bunch of new fixes, which being a freeze I didn't think would happen...they are treating bindings like they are in in non-freeze trunk mode constantly | 15:51 |
| ScottK | Looks like we have a portability issue in -runtime. Perhaps someone with some C++ foo could have a look at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-runtime/4:4.2.85-0ubuntu5/+build/1039488/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-armel.kdebase-runtime_4:4.2.85-0ubuntu5_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 15:52 |
| nixternal | I think bindings needs to be moved out of KDE/ and put in playground | 15:52 |
| rgreening | akonadi in karmic == 1.1.85 <> whats being used by trunk. they made api breaking changes | 15:52 |
| rgreening | I had to patch kdepim due to akonadi breakage | 15:53 |
| ScottK | pimlibs and libs-experimental now built on ALL archs. | 15:53 |
| nixternal | that arm crap | 15:54 |
| ScottK | nixternal: no that "people making unwarranted assumptions about how portable code should be written" crap. | 15:55 |
| nixternal | ifdef's ftw!!! :p | 15:55 |
| ScottK | nixternal: Go for it, since you, like, code and stuff. | 15:59 |
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| nixternal | nope, thanks though for offering :) | 15:59 |
| vishalrao | maybe remove the "const" in line 309 of -runtime/drkonqi/backtraceparser.cpp ? | 16:00 |
| vishalrao | *** line 308 | 16:00 |
| lubyou | any idea why date/time settings in system settings never seems to remember that it is supposed to sync the time from ntp servers? | 16:02 |
| vishalrao | lubyou: i wonder if it has anything to do with recent comments that system settings doesnt ask for sudo password, so you need to run it via kdesudo? | 16:03 |
| lubyou | well when i click it, it shows the kdesudo dialog, syncs the time. then i exit the panel, go back and the checkbox for syncing is unchecked again | 16:04 |
| lubyou | but yeh, maybe its because it doesnt have permanent root permissions | 16:04 |
| Nightrose | Riddell: \o/ I'll download them in a sec and test | 16:09 |
| seele | Artemis_Fowl: *waves* | 16:15 |
| * Artemis_Fowl waves back to seele :) | 16:15 | |
| Artemis_Fowl | it's been a long time :) | 16:16 |
| seele | are you on holiday from school now? | 16:18 |
| Artemis_Fowl | kind of | 16:19 |
| Artemis_Fowl | we have exams | 16:19 |
| Quintasan | rgreening: http://pastebin.com/f5b60715f <-- kgrab debdiff | 16:19 |
| Quintasan | hi Artemis_Fowl | 16:19 |
| Artemis_Fowl | Quintasan: heya | 16:20 |
| Nightrose | Riddell: crashes on startup like JontheEchidna's package before :( backtrace is of no use as i can't install the dbg package http://pastebin.com/m4abc1931 http://pastebin.com/m77ce8555 | 16:21 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seele: I'm back to developing for a while. won't be more than a couple of months though | 16:21 |
| * ScottK larts rgreening for bad build-deps in kdegraphics. | 16:22 | |
| Quintasan | apachelogger, JontheEchidna: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/plasma-widget-pgame | 16:22 |
| seele | Artemis_Fowl: cool.. i think there are some bugs open for KGRUBConfig ;) | 16:22 |
| Artemis_Fowl | I had no time to prepare kgrubeditor for jaunty :( but for karmic I think it will be fine | 16:22 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seele: I am almost finished with the main concern for kgrub: automagic | 16:23 |
| seele | with grub2 is automagic still an issue? | 16:23 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seele: maybe you'll have to review a couple of things in the next days | 16:23 |
| seele | Artemis_Fowl: sure, just send me screenshots or link to a jaunty package | 16:24 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seele: in theory no. but I haven't ever tried grub2 | 16:24 |
| knro | I can't use debuild -S -sa since the debian/control maintainer for the package is MOTU and gpg can't find the key obviously. What do I need to do? | 16:40 |
| ScottK | knro: The key gets picked up from the most recent debian/changelog entry, not the maintainer. | 16:41 |
| knro | ScottK: you're right, still can't key though.. lemme try to find out what's wrong. | 16:43 |
| ScottK | knro: Both the email address and the name have to match exactly. | 16:43 |
| ScottK | knro: There is an option (-k) to work around this, but better to figure it out. | 16:43 |
| knro | ScottK: ok, the problem is that I had a comment filed in my key. Is there a way to remove that?? or it's too late? | 16:46 |
| ScottK | I'm not sure. If that's the actual problem, then I'd just use -k<emailaddress> | 16:47 |
| knro | Ok, it's can't be undone. Guess I'll stick with it, not a big deal. | 16:48 |
| JontheEchidna | you can make a new sub-identity for the key that can go in debian/changelog | 16:49 |
| JontheEchidna | That should be fairly easy to do from an application like kgpg | 16:50 |
| knro | I just used -k and that works out fine. | 16:54 |
| knro | Though I had multiple keys uploaded to public servers from a couple of years ago... need to figure out how to delete those. | 16:54 |
| knro | err can't | 16:55 |
| smarter | you can if you still have the pass from the key and the key itself and generate a revocation certificate | 16:57 |
| knro | the private keys lost for the old ones. | 17:01 |
| tvakah | whence plasma... latest karmic upgrade seems to have lost it | 17:12 |
| nixternal | is the air theme in 4.3 beta 1? | 17:18 |
| smarter | nixternal: nop | 17:20 |
| nixternal | are they waiting for the final release and not putting it in any of the betas I take it | 17:20 |
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| neversfelde | someone around, who would like to sponsor bug 379514 ? | 21:11 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 379514 in choqok "new upstream version available (0.6)" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/379514 | 21:11 |
| nixternal | I can do that for you neversfelde | 21:13 |
| neversfelde | nixternal: thank you | 21:13 |
| neversfelde | choqok seems to be more feature complete now, I think I should write a backport request | 21:14 |
| Tm_T | neversfelde: in svn? | 21:21 |
| nixternal | yes, backport it, or provide me a jaunty package :) | 21:21 |
| neversfelde | nixternal: I pushed one to my ppa | 21:21 |
| neversfelde | Tm_T: 0.6 was released a few hours ago | 21:21 |
| nixternal | groovy | 21:22 |
| nixternal | just not built yet I guess | 21:23 |
| Tm_T | neversfelde: it's containing 2006.10 < CIA-63> momeny * r971543 choqok/trunk/extragear/network/choqok/src/statuswidget.cpp: Fix on Url regexp ? | 21:24 |
| Tm_T | (that's three hours ago btw) | 21:24 |
| Tm_T | neversfelde: hmm, apparently not, don't know if it matters though | 21:27 |
| Tm_T | apparently yes, then it's good thing | 21:28 |
| neversfelde | hehe | 21:28 |
| nixternal | neversfelde: shouldn't choqok have a watch file? | 21:28 |
| neversfelde | nixternal: oh yes, but I am not shure how to create one cause the path is ../0.*/choqok.-<version> | 21:29 |
| nixternal | k, I can do that | 21:29 |
| neversfelde | k, I'll have a look at it | 21:30 |
| neversfelde | watch files are a mistery for me :) | 21:32 |
| neversfelde | s/mistery/mystery | 21:32 |
| nixternal | ya, no watch file for choqok, they (ospdev) has that sillyness like kde-apps does | 21:37 |
| nixternal | neversfelde: uploaded :) | 21:39 |
| neversfelde | nixternal: thank you | 21:39 |
| nixternal | np | 21:39 |
| neversfelde | choqok backport request: bug 379566 | 23:35 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 379566 in jaunty-backports "Please backport choqok-0.6 to jaunty" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/379566 | 23:35 |
| neversfelde | I do not know if it is ok, so if a backporter is around :) | 23:35 |
| BUGabundo | any one here working tonight? | 23:50 |
| BUGabundo | trying to get svn version for karmic trunk of kdepim https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/kdepim/4:4.2.85-0ubuntu6 | 23:50 |
| BUGabundo | to allow upstream to help me debug a bug on kmail (doesn't reply to mailinglists) | 23:50 |
| JontheEchidna | you want to know what version karmic has? | 23:52 |
| nixternal | JontheEchidna: taking care of that in #kontact | 23:54 |
| nixternal | hey, is there a reason why kdepim/kmail doesn't dept on oxygen-icons? | 23:54 |
| nixternal | i don't know if they do or not for sure without dl'n the source and I am to lazy, figured you might know ;p | 23:54 |
| JontheEchidna | nothing does at the moment | 23:54 |
| nixternal | oh, groovy | 23:55 |
| nixternal | BUGabundo: ^^ | 23:55 |
| JontheEchidna | except the kubuntu-desktop seed | 23:55 |
| BUGabundo | I read it | 23:55 |
| nixternal | tis what you get for running our broken packages in jaunty anyways | 23:55 |
| nixternal | muhahaha | 23:55 |
| BUGabundo | karmic | 23:55 |
| nixternal | err, ya karmic I meant | 23:55 |
| nixternal | sorry | 23:55 |
| nixternal | in jaunty it is love :D | 23:55 |
| nixternal | in trunk it is even more love | 23:55 |
| nixternal | with 2 extra hugs thrown in | 23:55 |
| BUGabundo | any of you guys has _any_ idea on how to debug why my kmail won't let me reply to mailinglist? | 23:56 |
| BUGabundo | single emails works | 23:56 |
| BUGabundo | I rebuild indexs | 23:56 |
| BUGabundo | I changed accounts | 23:56 |
| BUGabundo | I change folder settings and ml management | 23:57 |
| BUGabundo | nothing I do, shows the Reply option | 23:57 |
| BUGabundo | come one guys... throw me bone here! | 23:58 |
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