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edgeIs there a offical Kstars chan?00:01
InfernoLinuxDoes anyone know why Konsole wouldnt work? I can open it but it does not give me the "username@system:~$" string and will not allow me to type00:25
GinoManwhat program can I use to record a stream?00:26
kubuwhat repos do I need Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "acroread"00:27
InfernoLinuxGinoMan http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-335642.html00:28
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_myrtille_kubu what do you want to do? if you just want to open pdf-files try okular. it's the default pdf-reader in kde00:30
kubuI like adobe00:30
InfernoLinuxadobe + kubuntu = bad times00:31
Barriduswhat's an alternate KDE4 compatable window manager other than Kwin and Openbox?00:32
GinoManthanks InfernoLinux00:32
InfernoLinuxyour welcome GinoMan00:32
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InfernoLinuxI really wish I could figure out whats wrong with konsole.00:34
InfernoLinuxAnyone have ideas on where to start?00:34
kaddikubu open your package manager (k-menu->system->package manager (adept))00:35
kubu?00:35
kaddikubu: go to view, select software sources, select edit software sources, select third party and check the following two lines:00:35
_zeroso, nobody knows anything about system tray not showing correct icons?00:36
kaddisry, the following line: http://archive canonical.com/ubuntu jaunty partner00:36
Barridus_zero did you try and install kde 4.3?00:36
Barridus(not suggesting you should, but wondering if that's your issue)00:37
_zeroBarridus: No, no, 4.2 here00:37
kaddikubu: close that window and press "fetch current package lists" afterwards you should be able to find adobe reader by searching for acroread00:37
phh_zero: hum, i got that problem earlier, but it just fixed by itself00:38
phh_zero: you've made all updates ?00:38
_zerophh: ah, well... mine isn't :)00:38
_zerophh: not sure... I understand that 4.2.3 is still on ppa, right?00:38
kubukaddi don't see acroread00:40
InfernoLinuxkabu http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/06/23/install-adobe-acrobat-reader-812-on-ubuntu-804/00:41
InfernoLinuxsorry, Kubu00:41
kubuThanks InfernoLinux00:42
InfernoLinuxwelcome kubu00:43
liberviscoWhat is the command to start "System Settings" from terminal?00:51
liberviscogot it00:53
Barridusok, so the "show desktop" widget only works with kwin?00:59
kde185Alright it's been over a year since KDE 4, when is installing a new plasmoid (IE gmail plasmoid) from Get Hot New Stuff going to actually work?00:59
Barridussome install ok, right?  or are all b0rk3d01:00
kde185some install fine01:01
ryannhello!  i am running kubuntu 9.10 (karmic) and can't seem to get wireless working under the management of kde-network-manager01:06
ryannare there any known issues?01:06
LadyNikonryann: what do you mean you cant get it working?01:06
LadyNikonwhat happens?01:07
ryannwell, the interface is detected01:07
ryannand is working with the b43 drivers01:07
ryanni have verified this with airodump01:07
ryannalso, kde-network-manager lists aps01:08
ryannupon selecting any, i am prompted to authenticate01:08
ryannyet it never properly authenticates01:08
ryannjust loops asking me for the wpa-psk01:08
LadyNikonis there actually wpa?01:08
ryannyes01:08
ryannmine here is wpa-psk01:09
ryannusing AES01:09
ryannit had worked just prior to upgrading the distribution01:09
LadyNikonah01:10
LadyNikoni had a similar issue in ubuntus manager..01:10
LadyNikonbut there was no wep.01:10
ryanni've even displaced my .kde directory and tried a new session01:10
ryannhoping it was perhaps a config or kwallet issue01:10
occupantwow, I'd just like to complain about the installer installing grub on a hard drive other than the one I installed on01:11
occupantI knew I should have unplugged my other drives first, but I really didn't think it would do something like that. lame, lame, lame01:11
ryannoccupant, the kubuntu install wrote grub to the mbr of more than one physical disk?01:12
LadyNikonoccupant: before you decided to complain are you sure that you didnt select something wrong by accident?01:12
LadyNikonoccupant: have you filed a bug report?01:12
occupantinstalled on the mbr of my hackintosh drive, no grub on the ubuntu drive. I admittedly did easy settings and just specified drive01:14
occupantshould I have done 'specify partitions' to set what happens with grub/mbr?01:14
LadyNikoni would have just to check and see01:15
LadyNikonbut thats because i am overly cautious01:15
rodroxHi all!01:17
ryannalso..01:19
ryannsince upgrading to karmic01:19
ryannmy touch pad no longer scrolls01:19
ryannLadyNikon,  check this out01:20
ryannhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-widget-network-manager/+bug/37814501:20
ryannBluesKaj plugged that in #kde01:20
ryannbrb01:23
nameinerhi folks01:25
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nameineranyone know how to start a kde app from a script that's called by a cron job? I always get an error telling me, that my app is KUniqueApplication.01:26
nameinermy script:01:28
nameiner#!/bin/bash01:28
nameiner/usr/bin/kmail #that's only an example01:28
flectorTracker issue01:30
flectortwo "can't index" dialogs, won't close01:31
yao_ziyuanis there kde 4.3 beta packages for jaunty?01:31
yao_ziyuanlast night i tried to upgrade to karmic but i was afraid of endless updates for the next 6 months01:32
GinoManhow do I restart the compositing effects01:32
GinoManbecause it crashed for some reason01:32
nameinerGinoMan: try Ctrl+Shift+F1201:32
InfernoLinuxAlright so I consulted a fellow linux enthusiast "dad" and he has suggested that My terminal will not display "username@system~$" because of a network issue. So I cheesed my way into getting my network configured and now I have wireless and wired connections. But konsole still wont post. what do I do? its just black01:33
flectornot to ask a stupid question, but how to get a process list, close one?01:33
InfernoLinuxflector systemMonitor01:33
GinoManit's not working01:33
nameinerflector: ps ax01:34
flectorps ax what?  in Konsole as su01:35
nameinerflector: in Konsole, no su01:35
flectortrying to close two uncloseable Tracker applets01:35
InfernoLinuxflector  you can type "ps ax" in console for a text based PID list, or you can press alt+f2 and type01:37
InfernoLinuxflector "system monitor01:37
InfernoLinux"01:37
InfernoLinuxflector I prefer system monitor because i like to look at realtime system usage01:37
flectornot a big deal, can't seem to close it01:39
InfernoLinuxsudo kill "pid number"01:39
flectorthat worked01:39
InfernoLinuxits my favorite command =)01:40
flectorthanks ;)01:40
flectoranybody want to test an app via Wine?01:41
InfernoLinuxwhat app01:41
flectorhtml generator free app01:41
flectorhaven't decided on wx, qt or gtk yet01:42
flectorhttp://dirhtml.enware.info/ for what it's worth01:43
InfernoLinuxi would help but i really need to get cracking on my fluid simulation01:43
kubuHello is there a command to completly uninstall OOo?01:49
flectorbrowser set to "winebrowser"01:49
InfernoLinuxsudo apt-get remove OOo01:50
flectorAmarok's getting busy01:51
flectoralas, no cover images, nothing but music01:52
flectorseriously, no right click taskbar, kill?01:56
flectorhad to resort to VLC to hear a video01:57
flectorhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDfT2NYHyD802:00
dioshorussaludos desde Venezuela02:00
dioshorussaludos desde Venezuela02:01
dioshorusles tengo una pregunta02:01
InfernoLinuxCAN ANYONE Help me fix /bin/bash02:01
dioshoruscomo hago para instalar Openoffice 3.1 en KDE 402:01
sven_64bit version without tricks oh02:17
sven_4 cpus but no full use of them02:17
sven_zou need dam small code for parallel algos02:19
sven_the dummies of MS received closed code without libs a.k.a. Visual Studio and thez deceive use of 4 cpus for propaganda02:21
CrellHi all.  Silly question.  I just accidentally added a word to my spellchecker dictionary by mistake that is in fact wrong.  How can I edit the list of added words to take it back out?02:22
sven_in suse linux i is a main next server folder where Zou can edit that02:27
sven_it is NOT for the thesaurus alone but unlimited for anz tzping02:28
FoxBlitzzWhere the heck is qtparted?02:33
JontheEchidnaFoxBlitzz: it's been abandoned by its authors. I'd suggest using partionmanager as a kde alternative02:40
sayamanhola soy nuevo02:43
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wimsis it possible to remove the text from the taskbar buttons so it only shows the program icon like w7 ?03:03
talamanwhere do i go to restart a service?03:13
packgeHello03:29
packgeeverybody03:29
packge有能认识中文的么03:30
ubuntu_hey 4 some reason after switching to kubuntu my wifi wont connect and suggestions03:41
bugi hawe this same prob with ubuntu03:42
bug90403:42
ubuntu_anybody03:42
AlexZionho everyone, I just installed Kubuntu 9.04 on my laptop ,and everythink is fine, except for the audio ....; imean , it works on the system, but when I try to watch some video on the web , the audio doesn't works ....03:50
AlexZionsomeone can help me with that problem ?03:51
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vertaganoAnyone know how I can fix my qt4 designer? I can use QT4 apps, but the designer seg faults before displaying anything.04:11
yankefishhow do i get to this path someone:  System/Admin/hardware Driver04:14
flectorthe short version is if you can't compile the lib's you have no business distributing anything04:15
flectoryou'd think they give precompiled with each distribution, but no04:15
yankefishanybody know how do i check whick wireless drivers r installed04:15
flectorhaving very good luck with CStdString04:16
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yao_ziyuanindeed it seems opensuse supports kde better, as kde.org has listed opensuse as one that has kde 4.3 packages04:39
yao_ziyuani know karmic also does04:39
ahmoshi how i can know my network wireless card type04:46
draikahmos: lscpi04:46
ahmoscommand not found04:47
draikwhoops04:47
draikahmos: lspci04:47
ahmosdraik thank's ;)04:48
draikahmos: No worries :)04:48
yao_ziyuanhatcha!04:52
draikDoes irssi keep a log of all chats?04:58
darren_anybody here?05:14
geniidarren_: Probably best just to state your issue then see if any takers.05:17
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trialnerrorthanks...05:17
trialnerrorhow do I disable the update notifier in the, umm, system tray(?) for non primary users?05:19
trialnerrorI dont see it in the plasma widgets05:20
trialnerrorusing kubuntu intrepid and kde4.2 BTW05:21
draikDoes irssi have a log of all my chats?05:30
geniidraik: Apparently not by default. http://irssi.org/documentation/startup#c805:37
draikgenii: Thanks. So it seems that all which I was saying before is lost. Oh well.05:39
geniidraik: If it was in a channel which is logged, check the logs05:39
draikgenii: mostly PM05:39
geniiAh, too bad.05:40
jerwarehi05:41
draikYeah. Live and learn, right?05:41
jerwarei want to program in java. do i have to set class paths ?05:41
talamanwhere do i go to restart a service?05:47
draikjerware: I'm going to start doing the same thing and I don't know anything just yet about programming in Java, but I think you do.05:47
geniitalaman: If the servicename exists in /etc/init.d   directory, you can in Konsole:  sudo /etc/init.d/service-name restart05:47
draiktalaman: What service? The command is typically    'sudo /etc/init.d/SERVICE restart' without the quotes and SERVICE being the service to restart.05:47
talamanservice/daemon05:48
talamanin the previous version i could go in and say restart smb...now i can't find it05:48
Sir_Brizzanyone here familiar with kdevelop at all?05:48
geniitalaman: samba (if it is installed) is in there05:49
talamangenii, samba was an example05:49
draiktalaman: What's the service/daemon?05:49
talamanany service/daemon05:50
talamanwhere in the gui do i find them?05:50
* draik is currently running irssi on Ubuntu Server 9.04 and thinking, 'GUI???'05:51
geniidraik: Hehe, I empathise05:51
geniitalaman: I'm on kde3. But I find it there to be in System Settings..Advanced tab...System Services05:52
talamanisn't kubuntu using kde?05:52
draiktalaman: New KDE is KDE4.205:52
geniitalaman: Different versions of Kubuntu use different KDE versions05:52
draiktalaman: genii is using KDE3, not KDE4.205:52
talamanyes, it would seem i upgraded and something got moved05:53
talamanyeah, i think i'm missing system services05:53
talamani got a service manager, but it down't have any outside of kde05:54
draiktalaman: Personally, nothing will ever beat CLI when it comes to true system management. That's my personal opinion, of course.05:55
talamanwell with ubuntu you're probably right... or at least it's a one or the other05:56
draikUbuntu uses GNOME, Kubuntu uses KDE. CLI is Terminal for Ubuntu and Konsole for Kubuntu.05:57
talamani.e. if you are using cli don't expect it to translate to the gui and if you're using the gui don't expect it to translate to the cli05:57
talamanubuntu, kubuntu, any buntu05:57
talamanall has the same issue05:57
talamanbbl05:57
talamangoing to try a different version to see if i can get my services back under control05:58
talamandang wish pclinuxos would work on the hd05:58
talamanthat was truely the best linux05:59
draikI don't see how a KDE-related issue is related to the GNOME GUI05:59
* genii shrugs05:59
flectorhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmN0mFHDH2w05:59
genii!ot06:00
flectorwoofers, good06:00
ubottu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!06:00
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jjjjjhey guys06:01
jjjjjbrb guys gotta get some coffee06:01
geniiflector: The Dead is classic, I agree. Just offtopic for here.06:01
draikHow can I watch the YouTube video on Ubuntu Server 9.04?06:02
geniidraik: Yes, I doubt elinks with svga-libs would do it...06:03
ahmoshi how i can disable nv-clock06:13
codenameDoes the Razer mouse work in Ubuntu?06:24
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Captain_HaddockJaunty installation: upon reboot, I get a GRUB error "Error 2"06:57
Captain_Haddockany ideas?06:59
motquestion07:11
motwhat is the process that controls sound output in kubuntu?07:11
moti.e. if i have firefox open and i'm watching a youtube video, i've never had a problem opening amarok and putting on some music07:11
moti just did a fresh install of 9.04 and there seems to be some issue with sound sharing..if i play any sound in firefox amarok will hang when i try to play a song07:11
moti've never had this problem. i also just did a fresh install of the alsa drivers...not really sure where to start debugging07:12
pat___asdf07:13
Captain_Haddockmot: I found the same issue on a laptop that I installed for a friend :(07:25
Captain_Haddockalso had issues with graphics (Intel) :S07:25
eagles0513875Captain_Haddock: in the release notes there was a regression somewhere :(07:27
george_good evening, I wonder can I use dpkg while installing a .deb and have it check dependencies w/out breaking anything first?07:36
george_Or more specifically, I want to install libc6 to 2.7 where I have 2.407:36
Patriquehi i need to setup runlevel priority list to run ushare at startup but only after i get connected to the internet, but i don't know what's runlevel priority list. i googled it and found nothing useful. Where could I find some documentation on this?07:39
ralphwhy does firefox continually refuse to present itself properly to Kubuntu07:44
ralphit doesn't show up as a web browser for perferred apps and it doesn't show in the internet tab unless i manually add it07:45
ralphany help'?07:55
tripodhow can i reset the kopete notifcations, i get the popup but there is no buttons in the text, and buttons dont work07:58
Captain_Haddockeagles0513875: aye, I saw that a tad too late though :|08:00
Elonehihi08:00
ralphtripod i found double clicking it at least moves it away08:01
tripodyes, i know that, thanks though :)08:01
Eloneanyone can inspire me that how do i make kubuntu box to have function of router or ICS?08:04
draikHow do I get the manual for 'read' installed?08:15
GnuBoihow to install rekonq in kubuntu i am in kubuntu jaunty08:45
Gamarok__guys can any of you help me out here i am unable to use  any package manager heres the error http://paste.ubuntu.com/177769/08:49
MamarokGamarok__: are you trying to run more than one package manager at a time?09:01
Mamarokyou can't do that09:01
Gamarok__i fixed it man09:02
MamarokGamarok__: dpkg is an exclusive command, you can only run it in one instance, to avoid package mismatches and install problems09:03
Gamarok__actually i know that man the thing was i updated my pc and after it was over i switched off my pc and the problem has been happening since09:04
MamarokGamarok__: +wo...09:06
elvis4791kubuntu.ru есть?09:13
Mamarok!ru | elvis479109:14
ubottuelvis4791: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke09:14
eagles0513875what can i use to take a screen shot09:16
Mamarokeagles0513875: ksnapshot09:16
eagles0513875thanks09:16
joshua__wassup09:23
eagles0513875!hi | joshua__09:23
ubottujoshua__: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!09:23
joshua__any know how i get to xbins from here09:23
Mamarokjoshua__: tried /join #xbins?09:24
joshua__yeah09:24
Mamarokjoshua__: are you sure the channel exists?09:24
joshua__yeah its on effnet i believe09:24
joshua__its a xbox mod channel09:25
Mamarokjoshua__: then you will have to change the irc net, you are on freenode here09:25
joshua__ahhh09:25
joshua__and how would i go bout doin that by chance......sorry im new at this ubuntu stuff09:25
Mamarokjoshua__: in the settings of your IRC client you cna change the IRC net and the channel to join automatically09:26
Mamarokcan*09:26
joshua__im oblivios to how to do that09:27
Mamarokjoshua__: what IRC client are you using?09:27
joshua__konversation09:27
joshua__im used to usin mirc09:28
Mamarokjoshua__: well, the settings don't change from one client to another, maybe just the menu location09:28
joshua__on mirc everything is there to pick from.....pretty user friendly09:29
Mamarokjoshua__: question of getting used to, konversation is userfriendly too :)09:29
hjbHi. I've freshly installed the latest kubuntu 9.04 but have a little trouble:09:29
joshua__yeah..............im just an idiot09:29
hjbthe kmail help isn't accecible09:30
joshua__im used to windows...blach09:30
joshua__i was just converted yesterday to ubuntu09:30
hjbwhen i try kmail->help i get "the file kmail/index.html doesn't exist"09:30
Mamarokhjb: because there is none yet, the khelpcenter has a bug09:30
hjbMamarok: when will that be fixed?09:30
Mamarokjoshua__: I didn't say that09:31
Mamarokhjb: subscribe to the bug and you will get notifyed09:31
Mamarokhjb: but you can find a lot of help online :)09:31
hjbMamarok: ok, thanks09:31
hjbMamarok: yeah, but i'm setting up this machine for my father09:32
hjbMamarok: i think he would expext that working09:32
Mamarokhjb: then you will have to do the help I am afraid, at least for now09:32
aftertafhjb: maybe get him a bookmark to online help?09:34
aftertafand remind him that help not working is a lesser evil than needing for example an antivirus that eats resources09:35
hjbaftertaf: he was on linux before, but on suse 8 ;)09:36
aftertafnice :)09:36
Mamarokhjb: then if he already knows how to use kmail he will find his way around, the apps are the same09:37
aftertafsurprising, in itself, but I stand happily corrected;09:37
hjbMamarok: kmail hasn't changed? nice to know, as i'm not using it personally09:37
Mamarokaftertaf: if he uses Kmail then its kmail, regardless the deistribution09:37
aftertaftrue...09:38
Mamarokhjb: well, the version is much newer, as Suse 8 ewas still running KDE 3.5 IIRC09:38
aftertafjust kde4 is different :)09:38
aftertafthere is bags of online help if he needs it;09:38
Mamarokand 9.04 uses KDE 4, but Kmail has gone better since, with a lot of bugfixes09:38
hjbaftertaf: but still better then convert him to gnome when he was used to kde3 before, i hope09:39
aftertafyep09:39
aftertaf4.1 was tough, now we're lokking goood09:39
hjbaftertaf: i'm personally not using kde at all, but right now, what i have seen so far looks nice :)09:40
aftertafis kde 4.3 available anywhere, apart from project neon?09:40
aftertafis IS...09:40
aftertafit.09:40
Mamarokaftertaf: wait to see 4.3, it's gorgeous :)09:40
Mamarokaftertaf: yes, but only for experienced user, as there are dependency problems still with the packages09:40
aftertafi have it from neon on my home PC...09:40
aftertaf--force-overwrite is my second nature :)09:40
Mamarokaftertaf: it's in the experimental repos09:41
aftertafcoooool09:41
* aftertaf opens yakuake09:41
Mamarokyou have to open it? Doesn't it run in the background for you? ;)09:41
aftertafF12 :)09:42
Mamarokaftertaf: don't know if it's in 4.3 yet though...09:42
aftertafdeb http:// is ppa kubuntu experimental?09:43
aftertafcant find 4.3 :(09:43
aftertafwhat sources.list do i need to add?09:44
Mamarokaftertaf: wait, I'll get the repo for you09:44
aftertafcheers :)09:45
aftertafim new to quassel too, how do i turn off the in/out notifications?09:45
aftertafdidnt find earlier09:45
aftertaffound :)09:46
Mamarokaftertaf: found the repo?09:46
aftertafno, the hide :)09:46
hjbwhat i find is that this system is damn slow when doing a lot of disk i/o09:46
hjbanything to tune that?09:46
aftertafsata?09:46
Mamarokaftertaf: https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/experimental09:47
Mamarokaftertaf: and you need a new key for that one too09:47
aftertafok. i am missing about 10 keys alrady :)09:48
Mamarokaftertaf: you reall should install it though, just to be sure09:48
hjbaftertaf: sata? was tat for me?09:48
Mamarokhjb: did you install the -dbg packages too?09:49
hjbMamarok: no09:49
Mamarokok, one source eliminated09:49
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Mamarokhjb: how much ram and swap?09:49
aftertaf:)09:49
hjbMamarok: 1 GB ram, 1GB swap09:50
hjbMem:   1003204k total,   984680k used,    18524k free,    17800k buffers09:51
hjbSwap:   996020k total,    15108k used,   980912k free,   475052k cached09:51
Mamarokhjb: double the swap space I would say09:51
Mamarokhjb: below 4 GB RAM the rule is to use double the swap than the RAM09:52
hjbMamarok: never heard of that rule so far... but ok, i'll give it a try09:52
Mamarokhjb: services running in the background that use CPU?09:52
hjbMamarok: no09:53
Mamarokhjb: might be tricky to do if swap is between / and /home09:53
hjbMamarok: no problem, i can shrink /09:54
hjbthere's space left09:54
Mamarokhjb: good09:55
Mamarokdouble swap than ram is a rule here since ages :)09:55
MamarokI have 4 GB RAM and 8 GB swap, but swap is very rarely used09:55
Mamarokbut before with 2 GB on the other PC it was09:55
aftertafupgrading :)09:58
aftertafhope the network manager wifi works better :)09:59
semcisjust got one question if someone know tis message that a get every time am trying to install anything...E: Type "http://blueeyedcreature.net/ubuntu" is not nown on line 54 in the list of sources /etc/apt/sources.list10:02
semcisE: The list of sources coud not be shown10:02
Mamaroksemcis: there's a typo in your sources list10:03
Mamarokor the serever you try to get packages from is down10:04
semcisok....but....there is always a but, iam trying to get wine, that schoudent be any problem..? or not!..10:05
aftertafsemcis: what is exactly on line 54 ?10:06
Assurbanipalhi guys, i am on kubuntu 9.04 with kde 4,3. i am facing very high cpu loads (above 80%) when i transfer files. can anybody tell me why this happens?10:06
semcis(sorry for the eng...)10:06
semcisdont now. =/10:06
Mamaroksemcis: wine is in the current repositories, you do not need an external one10:07
semcisok10:07
MamarokAssurbanipal: when did you install that?10:07
Assurbanipalwhen i installed what?10:09
aftertafkde 4.310:09
aftertafjaunty comes with 4.2 (release 3)10:09
Assurbanipalwhen it was released for kubuntu, i added the repo mentioned in kubuntu.org10:10
Viking667Got a key-related problem I don't know how to solve. Every time I type "apt-get update" I get an error at the end, stating a key error:10:10
Viking667W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com jaunty-security Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>10:10
Viking667the last line suggests running "apt-get update" to fix the error.10:10
aftertafsemcis: you can open your sources.list with kate and press F11 to see the line numbers10:10
semcisok..thanks!10:12
AssurbanipalMamarok: any ideas?10:13
MamarokAssurbanipal: you did an update since like 2 days ago?10:14
Assurbanipalyes, i updatedtoday too..10:14
AssurbanipalMamarok: and just repeated update, but nothing new to install...10:15
MamarokAssurbanipal: I just tried here and my CPU behaves normally10:15
MamarokAssurbanipal: what does top tell you?10:15
aftertafwell that went well.... just trashed my desktop config :)10:15
AssurbanipalMamarok: http://pastebin.com/m418ac65b10:17
Viking667oh, and there's a process going mad on my "top" - update-apt-xapi10:19
Viking667What's that?10:19
MamarokAssurbanipal: you have a python running for some particular task? That eats CPU a lot too10:19
Mamarokand you have a ntfs share10:19
aftertafi saw that too.... :)10:19
aftertafshouldnt it be mounted with fuse ?10:19
aftertafViking667: auto updating apt job i think10:20
Assurbanipali don't really get all you say...10:20
Assurbanipal:S10:20
Viking667aftertaf: gah. Figures.10:20
aftertafin the Top command there is a job using python...10:20
aftertafis this voluntary?10:20
Mamarokaftertaf: already asked that :)10:21
aftertafyeah ;) . . . but trying to help the understandage10:21
MamarokViking667: you are currently updating?10:21
Assurbanipali don;t know what is using python, i am running firefox,vlc,quassel now10:21
Viking667I guess the program thinks it is.10:21
MamarokAssurbanipal: kill python then10:21
MamarokViking667: kill it if not10:22
Viking667it's uh, finished.10:22
Viking667now, back to this key problem.10:22
Assurbanipalok,killed it10:22
Viking667it only seems to relate to the security-jaunty source.10:22
Assurbanipalnow finished copying and system behaves normal..10:23
MamarokAssurbanipal: I guess it's the ntfs location that causes it, I can't test, don't have one10:24
Assurbanipalthe ntfs disk is connected through usb if that helps10:24
Viking667oh. Gawd. USB 2.0, I hope?10:24
Assurbanipalas far as i know... yes!10:26
asekohi, is a seperate kubuntu chan in german available?10:29
Assurbanipalso, nothing i should do?10:30
jussi01!de | aseko10:31
ubottuaseko: In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.10:31
asekonoone who can answer this question?10:31
asekoah danke ubottu10:31
jussi01!bot | aseko10:31
ubottuaseko: Hi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots10:31
asekodarf man denn hier auch deutsch sprechen oder is amtssprache hier EN?10:32
Mamarokaseko: there is #kubuntu-de10:32
Don_Miguel!de | aseko10:33
ubottuaseko: In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.10:33
MamarokDon_Miguel: I think one bot call is enough...10:33
Mamarokand the bot does not list the channel he is looking for anyway10:33
* Mamarok goes to change that10:33
asekoall good things are three10:34
aseko!de | aseko10:34
ubottuaseko, please see my private message10:34
Don_Miguellol10:34
Don_MiguelMamarok, sorry, I did not see the previous bot call for  de10:36
MamarokDon_Miguel: ok10:36
aftertafAssurbanipal: when you type 'mount' what type is set for your nfts drive?10:36
Assurbanipal/dev/sdd1 on /media/music type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096)10:37
Assurbanipali tjhink this is what u r looking for,should i pastebin the whole mount results?10:41
=== rjb is now known as drbobb
=== j is now known as Guest87276
drbobbhey this is crazy. I suddenly realised ALL of my virt. memory was in use (3G of ram + 2G of swap). I checked it out in htop, and firefox was using, like 3.5 G10:43
drbobball that with 3 open tabs10:43
drbobbthat was 5x as much as a virtualbox running xp10:45
Viking667drbobb: huh? That's so sick.10:45
drbobbI promptly shut down that beast, and saw the process remain active for like 10 more minutes after closing its window10:45
Viking667  454m 209m  33m S  1.3 18.4 151:12.88 firefox        and that's with eight tabs.10:45
drbobbthrashing the disk like crazy, until I lost patience and killed it10:46
husayn_when ever i type  sudo ifconfig eth0:1 10.1.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 up     it works.. then i restart my PC and then the configuration is gone10:46
Mamarokdrbobb: probably flash going wild, a common problem with firefox10:46
drbobbMamarok: but wouldn't that be reflected in a separate processs?10:47
Viking667bye all.10:47
Mamarokdrbobb: no, as flash runs as a firefox plugin, it's listet under firefox10:47
Mamarokcu Viking66710:47
drbobbor does 64 bit firefox run flash in-process10:47
aftertafFirefox does that more and more10:48
aftertafv3.5 doesnt even close when you close it10:48
drbobbthat sucks10:49
aftertafhusayn: have you changed network cards or anything since first install?10:49
drbobbwell firefox was always a pain when you have homedirs on nfs10:49
Mamarokaftertaf: works fine so far in KDE 4.310:49
aftertaf3.1 yeah10:49
Mamarokouch, home dir on nfs?...10:50
aftertafshiretoko wont close correcty for me10:50
flashflash10:50
drbobbMamarok: what's so weird about that10:50
flashciao10:50
Mamarokflash: do you need help?10:50
Mamarokdrbobb: about what?10:51
aftertafnfs home i think10:51
drbobbMamarok: here we have labs where both / and /home are on nfs, and the boxes boot on pxe10:51
drbobbused to be etherboot/netboot but that's kinda obsolete10:52
Mamarokdrbobb: just seems strange to me to use a nfs if one can have etx3/4... but I never use Windows, so :)10:52
aftertafhusayn_: have you tried using the network manager widget  to set your IP ?or you set 2 IPs?10:52
drbobbMamarok: well what if you need to provide the user with the same /home no matter which of 50 workstations he happens to be using10:53
husayn_no i havnt tried network manager10:53
aftertafsunray and terminal server farms at work10:53
husayn_can we configure 2 IP in network manager in Kubuntu Hardy Heron10:53
husayn_i dont think so10:53
drbobbMamarok: and I fail to see the relation between nfs and windows10:53
Mamarokdrbobb: sry, my bad...10:54
Mamarokread ntfs....10:54
aftertafgoogle for alias ubuntu network ip, maybe? dont know...10:54
drbobbMamarok: ah you saw a 't' where there was none ;)10:54
aftertaflol10:54
aftertafforce of bad habit ;)10:54
drbobbaftertaf: yeah great idea, but sun gear is $$$$$$$10:55
aftertafhusayn_: and you type it in shell each time to set it, right, why dont you put it in your /etc/network/interfaces ?10:55
aftertafdrbobb: $$$$ :) and TS is crap. Keeps randomly crashing and doesnt swap users etc etc etc :)10:56
husayn_humm i will try for that10:56
husayn_one more thing.. how to check if my graphics card is installed10:56
aftertafdo you see whatwe type ?10:56
aftertaf:) joke10:56
aftertafwhat type is it?10:56
jjjjjjjjjjjjjjhowdy10:57
aftertafit will be installed, you want to know if using correct (or proprietary) drivers ?10:57
aftertafhello TenJ10:57
drbobbwe're getting some beefed up NAS boxes to handle nfs now, used to be a low-end sun enterprise or something10:57
aftertafnice10:57
drbobbone the size of a small fridge10:57
jjjjjjjjjjjjjjahem10:57
aftertafdoes it have a USB/Beer port ?10:57
drbobbworked ok for up to 50 clients or so10:58
drbobbnope it's just scuzzy all over the place10:58
drbobbi mean scsi10:58
aftertafi am geek enough to understand :)10:59
drbobbwell just launched firefox is 475M virt size for me11:00
aftertafapt-get install fatfox :)11:00
slow-motionhu11:01
SSJ_GZvirt is almost completely meaningless.11:01
drbobbwell maybe arora will get adblock support one of these days11:01
drbobbSSJ_GZ: it maybe meaningless but it sure climbs fast11:02
aftertafok. sun is out so time for a splash in the swimming pool. laters all:)11:03
drbobbI'd use konqueror exclusively if it were supported by gmail11:03
=== olujicz_ is now known as olujicz
drbobbhey when I was using my 9.04 laptop this morning I had dolphin create a file with several '/' characters in its name. I thought that was not allowed?11:09
drbobbthe funny part being that it was able to create and access this file, but copying it to another device failed. I'd say there's a bug here somewhere11:11
muttman I have installed kde-desktop but I do not see any panel. is there any extra settings required to see panel?11:15
drbobbmuttman: did you logout and log back in?11:16
muttmanyes I did. Even I tried reboot11:16
drbobbor did you install it in text-mode environment, in gnome, whatever11:17
drbobbmaybe you need to choose kde session at the login screen, cause your current default is probably different11:17
muttmanfrom 8.10 I updated to 9.04. I was using gnome. Then I did apt-get install kde-desptop11:17
muttmandrbobb: I am using kdm and I can see kgreeter11:18
drbobbwell check out what session is set for you at the kdm screen, after typing your login but before logging in11:19
drbobbotherwise you might need to delete or rename your ~/.kde/11:20
Mamarokmove it to .kde_old/ is sometimes the best choice if you are not running out of diskspace11:21
drbobbyeah right11:21
Mamarokso you can find your Mails and other stuff again11:21
muttmandrbobb: I did moved ~/.kde DO I need to logout?11:21
drbobbwell I wouldn't be surprised if that was needed11:22
* drbobb often forgets that some folks still use pop3 for mail rather than imap or gmail11:23
drbobbwhich there is no excuse for these days, really11:23
muttmandrbobb, yeah it worked now11:24
muttmanI can see panels.. Thanks a lot11:25
muttmanwhen I Run urxvt, default is ~/Documents11:26
muttmanis n't this strange?11:26
mazinHi11:27
mazinهلا11:27
* drbobb has never used urxvt11:27
drbobbyakuake is pretty swell, though it does have a couple shortcomings11:29
drbobbbtw config of sessions in konsole is currently still quite buggy11:30
drbobbthe sessions I define tend to randomly vanish from the menu11:30
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drbobbcan anyone comment on dolphin vs. slashes in filenames?11:36
Mamarokdrbobb: explain, I fear I don't get the question11:40
drbobbwhen I was using my 9.04 laptop this morning I had dolphin create a file with several '/' characters in its name. I thought that was not allowed?11:40
drbobbbtw I was able to do that by drag'n'dropping a url from firefox11:41
Mamarokdrbobb: I don't thin so, what happened is that you insterted spaces in a filename, and on the command line these can not be shown otherwise than with \ //11:41
drbobbthe result was a .desktop file named http://blah.blah.etc/and/so/on.desktop11:41
Mamaroknamed http:// ?11:42
Mamarokthat is a URL, not a filename11:43
Mamarokdrbobb: why would you drag and drop an URL to dolphin?11:43
Mamarokit's not a browser11:43
drbobbMamarok: instead of bookmarking the url11:44
drbobband why not since it works11:44
drbobbok just tried that in hardy, the name of the .desktop file is urlencoded11:45
Mamarokdrbobb: strange idea... you actually dragged it to the desktop, nbot to dolphin, hnce the .desktop extension11:45
drbobbthat is, slashes are replaced by %2f11:45
drbobbMamarok: no, I dragged it to a folder open in dolphin11:46
Mamarokdrbobb: because of your locale settings11:46
drbobband this did exactly what I expected, created a launcher that takes me to that url if I click on it11:46
Mamarokdrbobb: that's not how one stores URL addresses anyway, bookmakrs are there for exactly that task, and you can export bookmarks to a html or xl file11:47
drbobbMamarok: I fail to see what locale has to do with this11:47
drbobb'/' is disallowed in filenames no matter what the locale11:47
Mamarokthe slashes are replaced by %2f because of that11:47
Mamarokso would spaces be too11:48
MamarokURL rules11:48
drbobbwell the point is that they weren't11:48
* Mamarok sighs11:48
drbobbuh spaces are totally okay in filenames, though not in urls11:48
Mamaroknot in Dolphin, no, as it's not a broswer...11:48
Mamarokso it will not replace spaces, but a broswer does11:49
drbobbMamarok: plain old ls(1) showed me slashes in the name of the .desktop file11:49
Mamarokdrbobb: that's what I try to tell you...11:49
drbobband the functionality that you can drag a url to a folder, desktop or any other, has been present in kde for as long as I can remember11:50
drbobbeven the ancient kfm supported that11:51
drbobband it's not so pointless: say you picked up some image files or whatever else form a website, d/l'ed them to a folder, and want to keep a reference to where you got them from together with that data11:53
drbobbs/form/from/11:53
drbobba .desktop file pointing to the site's url serves that purpose perfectly11:53
drbobbanyway, what I see in hardy is what I'd expect: in dolphin's view of the folder, the urlencoding is decoded to show the user a "friendly" filename11:57
drbobband attempting to rename or manually create a file with literal slashes in the filename fails11:58
drbobbwell that's not what I saw on my jaunty machine11:58
johnny_hey12:01
johnny_anyone here?12:01
Mamarok!ask | johnny_12:01
ubottujohnny_: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)12:01
khaije1liunian: usually ppl ask permission to PM in chan. whats up?12:16
liunianhello everyone12:19
Gamarok__howdy liunian12:20
liunianhahaha12:22
liunianhowdy Gamarok12:22
liunianit is so fun , irc12:24
Peace-hi12:26
liunianhi12:26
liunianhi peace12:26
=== perpustakaan is now known as perpustakaanjnjj
jonathan__hello!12:37
jonathan__I've a very big problem12:37
Peace-..12:37
jonathan__my mouse isn't doing what i want12:37
Peace-well12:37
jonathan__it just happend during the last kde session...12:37
jonathan__first it worked allright, and then, it started dragging things without holding the left mouse buttons... i can control windows the one time, the other time i just can't do anything12:38
jonathan__window controls (close minimize, etc) are sometimes working, the other time not...12:38
jonathan__I'm lucky that i know that much keyboard shortcuts to open konversation and the kubuntu channels...12:39
jonathan__any idea what is messing my mouse up?12:39
jonathan__no my mouse curser changed to the text marker curse for any reason :D12:39
jonathan__i already restarted my pc twice12:39
jonathan__And my pc info: Kubuntu 9.04, latest stable KDE Version (4.2.3?), Intel Pentium 4 and compositing enabled12:41
Peace-tried to reconfigure xorg?12:41
jonathan__don't know what should happen, i didn't configured it before the error happend...12:42
Peace-jonathan__: nothing12:42
jonathan__ok wait12:43
Peace-jonathan__:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg12:43
Peace-that is the command12:43
jonathan__i know but thanks ;)12:43
jonathan__the mouse isn't even mentioned within my xorg.conf...12:43
Peace-i know i know12:44
lovrehi all12:44
Peace-hi12:44
lovrewhat is the keyboard shortcut for disabling/enabling desktop effects?12:44
jonathan__no12:44
Peace-systemsettins----->desktop -------->enable desktop effects12:44
jonathan__the file didn't change12:44
Peace-jonathan__: the file no...but...12:45
lovrePeace-: yes, i know that, but i knew a keyboard shortcut for this, its faster. Something like CTRL+F??12:45
jonathan__lovre: Alt, Schift and F1212:45
lovrejonathan__: yes, thats it. thank you!12:45
Peace-lovre: create your own shortcuts12:45
jonathan__no problem ;)12:45
robin0800_Jonathan the only way to populate the xorg conf is to run Xorg -configure from a recovery console12:45
Peace-lovre: systemsettins---->input action or somethingk like that12:45
jonathan__ok i will give it a try12:46
lovrePeace-: i see, thank you...12:46
jonathan__ok i think it won't help ;) so see you in a few minutes ;)12:46
BluesKajGood Day13:07
david_ithi, quickaccess and folder view don't work, do you know what would be the problem....?13:11
rmrfslashHow can I install the 32-bit libs on 64-bit kubuntu?13:33
rmrfslash(9.04)13:33
superboyit keeps saying su-java6-doc-jar.zip error13:35
eagles0513875rmrfslash: you need ia32-libs to run anything that is 32bit on 64bit13:35
BluesKajrmrfslash, install w32codecs and in the package manager type ia32 , then install the libs that are listed...not all are required but it difficult to tell13:36
Mamarok!sound13:36
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP313:36
x_linkHi!13:37
rmrfslasheagles0513875: thanks13:37
rmrfslashBluesKaj: thanks13:37
x_linkWhat's the command that shows me which Kubuntu-version I use?13:37
eagles0513875no problem rmrfslash13:37
x_linkI always forget that command.13:37
Picix_link: lsb_release -a13:38
x_linkPici: Ahh right13:39
x_linkThanks!13:39
superboyhelp13:41
superboyPress RETURN to try again, 'no' + RETURN to abort] no13:42
superboyAbort installation of J2SDK documentation13:42
superboydpkg: error processing sun-java5-doc (--configure):13:42
superboy subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 113:42
superboyErrors were encountered while processing:13:42
superboy sun-java6-doc13:42
superboy sun-java5-doc13:42
superboyReading package lists... Done13:42
superboyBuilding dependency tree13:42
superboyReading state information... Done13:42
superboyReading extended state information13:42
superboyInitializing package states... Done13:42
Unksi!paste | superboy13:42
ubottusuperboy: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)13:42
Unksisuperboy: what was the message before "press return.."13:42
eagles0513875!patience | superboy13:43
ubottusuperboy: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines13:43
eagles0513875superboy: if you want a quick way to install alot of the restricted stuff from flash to java and others i recommend installing kubuntu-restricted-extras13:44
=== fabian is now known as FabianP
superboythanks bro13:46
=== fabian is now known as Fabian1604
binbintest13:53
binbinanyone online?13:53
binbinwhat is freenode?13:53
Gamarok__hey binbin13:56
binbin?13:57
binbinanyone  here?13:57
Gamarok__i think so binbin13:58
binbinis this a talkshow?13:58
Gamarok__i don't think so13:58
eagles0513875binbin: if you have questions about freenode please ask in #freenode if you have kubuntu related questions and need support please ask and patienly wait13:58
binbini see13:59
binbinthis is a place provided for a group of peaple can communicate together14:00
eagles0513875!ot | binbin14:00
ubottubinbin: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!14:00
binbinbye bye ! guys14:02
eagles0513875bye binbin14:03
SOBEARhi guys, any ideas why grub won't start? I'm having the "wrong allocation table" error14:13
=== Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan
rmrfslashAnyone know what libtypes.so is from?14:22
SOBEARhi guys, any ideas why grub won't start? I'm having the "wrong allocation table" error and it happened after installing kubuntu :|14:25
BluesKaj!grub | SOBEAR14:28
ubottuSOBEAR: GRUB is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto14:28
SOBEARI tried it14:29
BluesKajoh SOBEAR , allocation table means you need to flag your kubuntu partition as 'boot'14:32
SOBEARtried it too, I have a bad feeling my hdd just died14:32
BluesKajtyhen you might need to edit grub if windows won't boot up either14:33
SOBEARI already tried editting grub.list14:33
SOBEARnow I'm almost sure my hdd is dead14:34
adhemaralguien de Bolivia????14:34
hjbHi. How can i decode the password that is stored in the kmailrc file?14:34
hjbthe password for the pop3 account is in there, but when i look at he file with less14:35
hjbonly carets are displayed14:35
SOBEARBluesKaj I tried every solution I could find in google14:35
BluesKajSOBEAR, what partition editor are you using ?14:36
SOBEARI tried gparted, partition magic and the xp one14:36
BluesKajgparted is the best IMO ,are you using the GParted live cd ?14:37
SOBEARyeah14:38
SOBEARI might sound noobish but I'm not14:39
BluesKajSOBEAR, what do the partitions show ?14:39
SOBEARthe one I tried booting is labeled with b14:39
BluesKajpartition magic is a killer stay away from it , one wrong move an you end up with no OSss14:40
SOBEARyeah I know, especially with ext4 and newer verions of ntfs14:40
BluesKajwhat about the file systems, are they labelled ?14:41
SOBEARyeah14:41
SOBEARon the drive I'm trying to boot: 2x ntfs (right), 1x ext4 and swap14:41
BluesKajext4 didn't work for me , it was terrible14:42
SOBEARit was working for me with no problems14:42
BluesKajtried jaunty on it14:42
SOBEARI already tried installing kubuntu on ext3 and still the same thing14:44
BluesKajok, what are the partitions listed as ?14:44
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Guest36620hola14:44
SOBEARwhat do you mean?14:44
Guest36620spansh chanel?14:44
Guest36620where?14:44
BluesKajhd0 hda ?14:44
BluesKajsda14:45
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BluesKaj!es | Guest3662014:45
ubottuGuest36620: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.14:45
=== Indigo is now known as indigo
SOBEARhd0 is the windows partition14:45
indigohello?14:45
indigoyes it is14:45
SOBEARhd1 ntfs data14:45
SOBEARhd2 kubuntu14:46
indigowhere i can join to spanish chanel?14:46
SOBEAR!es | indigo14:46
ubottuindigo: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.14:46
SOBEAR;)14:46
BluesKajgawd14:46
indigoi found ubuntu-ar ^^14:46
SOBEARoh sorry, what's the command to check all the partitions?14:47
BluesKajindigo, trolling , or can't you read spanish ?14:47
indigonono i only just try to find a Spanish Chanel, i found it ^^ #ubuntu-ar14:48
indigothx anyway14:48
SOBEAR#ubuntu-es14:48
geniiindigo: #ubuntu-ar is the local argentina channel. The official spanish channel is still #ubuntu-es14:48
BluesKajSOBEAR, df -h14:48
indigoyep14:48
indigoi know14:48
indigoi from argentina14:49
indigo^^14:49
toby_ fire fox is allready running thats what i'm told but it is not14:50
toby_ fire fox is allready running thats what i'm told but it is not plz help14:51
BluesKajSOBEAR, sorry it's sudo fdisk -l14:52
SOBEARright now I'm moving all my data from one hdd to another and I'll try to make it the main one14:52
toby_ fire fox is allready running thats what i'm told but it is not plz help14:52
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geniitoby_: sudo killall firefox14:53
toby_no prosses killed14:53
SOBEARoh great, I can't start Konsole from livecd14:55
toby_genii: no prosess killed14:57
toby_thats what i get14:57
toby_now what do i do?14:57
geniiHm. Exited before another suggestion could be offered.14:58
SOBEARBluesKaj: got it14:58
BluesKajok SOBEAR , what have you got  ?14:59
SOBEARcan I pm you? don't wanna spam the channel15:00
geniitoby_:  ps aux | grep firefox              Then if it lists anything (aside from the "grep firefox") then use the pid number after the username to kill it.15:00
BluesKajSOBEAR, can you pastebin it ?15:00
SOBEAR1 second15:00
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SOBEARBluesKaj: no can do :(15:04
SOBEARI have no idea what's wrong15:04
BluesKaj!pm | SOBEAR,15:07
ubottuSOBEAR,: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.15:07
cinexcan anyone give me a link that explains how to connect to a printer shared on an XP machine? (with XP being the server)15:24
tsimpson!print15:24
ubottuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows15:24
tsimpsonsee the last link there15:24
BluesKaj!cups15:24
cinexthanks tsimpson15:25
tdnSuddenly my keyboard does not work in Kubuntu 9.04. Nothing happens when I press keys. Mouse and applications work fine. How do I get my keyboard back?15:32
tdnI was doing some important stuff in Konsole. I cannot save my work without keyboard.15:33
tdnPlease help.15:33
tdnKeyboard num lock light works.15:35
tdnI can SSH to the machine without keyboard.15:35
tdnFrom a different computer15:35
tdn(the one I use for IRC now)15:35
desutdn: you might have sticky keys or something else switched on15:35
desuor delayed keys...15:35
tdndesu, how do I check?15:36
desukeep a key pressed for a while, it should insert that character...15:36
tdndesu, how can that be switched on without me knowing it?15:36
tdndesu, can I turn it off from ssh?15:36
tdnor with the mouse?15:36
tdndesu, Alt+Tab is not working. I cannot write en terminal, etc.15:36
desusystem settings -> accessibility15:36
desukeep a key pressed for a while and try..15:36
desutdn: turn off slow keys or anything else that might be on15:37
tdndesu, how do I turn slow keys off? I am in settings > Accessi....15:37
tdnActivatio gestures.15:37
tdnsticky keys and slow keys are unchecked.15:38
desuswitch them on, apply, switch them off, apply.15:38
tdnWTF?! Now the keyboard works!15:38
tdnThanks a lot!15:38
tdnI have NO idea why this happened.15:38
desuyou're welcome15:38
tdnI have not enabled that stuff.15:38
desuyou'd accidentally triggered an activcation gesture15:38
tdnBut I have manually turned all that sh*t off when I have just installed.15:39
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mark___after upgrading to kubuntu 9.04 KDE desktop freezes after i dont use it for a while . It also freezes in gnome15:47
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mark___i have to reboot my system15:47
mark___other than that it works good but i dont know why it keeps freezing15:49
kaddimark___ you have an intel graphics card?15:49
mark___no i have a nvidia geforce 850015:50
mark___was working fine in intrepid 8.1015:51
kaddimark___ ah sry... can't help you then. :( I had the same problems as you have but with an intel card.. there is a tutorial on how to improve this, but this is related to the intel card, so it probably doesn't apply to your case. :( Sry15:52
mark___it only does it when i leave the computer for a while15:52
mark___usually after a few hours of inactivity15:52
mark___compiz works fine and the graphics work great when playing games , google earth etc.15:54
mark___woke up this morning and turned the monitor on and everything was frozen again15:55
mark___oh well it might be time to do a fresh install15:56
kaddimark___ i can only tell you what others told me: that great parts of ubuntu have been rewritten for jaunty and that this is the reason for the problems surfacing now15:56
kaddiand that things will get better with karmic :p15:57
kuttanshello everybody15:57
kuttansim new to ubuntu15:57
mark___i have a copy of kubuntu 9.04 coming from shippit so i think i will do a clean install from that and try again15:58
kaddihello kuttans :)15:58
kaddimark___ have a look at this: might help with your freezing problem: http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2009/05/18/temporary-fix-for-keyboard-not-working-error-in-ubuntu-904/15:59
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kaddiit doesn't help solving the problem, but might avoid you the hard reset15:59
mark___ok i will have a look ....thanks kaddi16:00
kaddiwhat would be a nice application for rss-feeds? I've been using thunderbird till now, but would like something independent16:01
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geniikaddi: My friend uses "planet" and he seems to like it fine. I can't give any review since I haven't used it kmyself16:11
genii*myself16:11
juancarloshola16:14
kaddi!hi |juancarlos16:14
ubottujuancarlos: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!16:14
kaddigenii thanks, I'll take a look :)16:15
kaddihi, how do i pipe the output from a program started with konsole in a file? kopete >> tmp.txt won't work. The messages are still shown in console16:27
mot_anyone know how to get pulseaudio working with flash/firefox?16:30
tintintintinhi all16:42
bugby all16:42
tintintintincan anybody help me16:43
kaddi!ask |tintintintin16:43
ubottutintintintin: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)16:43
tintintintini have an kubuntu jaunty instalation with LDAP and now im configuring the users profiles. How can i block the Desktop panels to the users when they connect?16:45
JuJuBeeIs there an update notifier for kde 4.2 task bar?16:50
robin0800JuJuBee: you meen the thing with an "i"?16:52
JuJuBeeI have no thing with an I until I start a copy process or something and it tells me what is happening.16:53
robin0800JuJuBee: Its in the beta 116:54
JuJuBee?16:55
JuJuBeeSo do I have to update via cli manually now?16:56
DragnslcrAre you talking about software updates?16:56
robin0800JuJuBee: KDE 4.3 Beta 1 to be precise16:56
robin0800JuJuBee: http://www.kubuntu.org/node/8116:58
cuozzo5ciao16:59
eagles0513875!it | cuozzo517:00
ubottucuozzo5: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)17:00
JuJuBeerobin0800: K, thanks.  I can wait, just wanted to know if I was missing something...17:04
DragnslcrJuJuBee- are you talking about software updates?17:05
JuJuBeeyes17:05
DragnslcrYes, there's a notifier program17:05
JuJuBeeI can sudo apt-get update and apt-get upgrade fine.17:05
JuJuBeeWhere is the notifier ?17:05
DragnslcrYou should see a gear icon in the system tray when updates are available17:05
JuJuBeeNope, I have never been notified of updates, yet am currently upgrading many packages at the moment...17:06
DragnslcrTry running update-notifier-kde17:08
DragnslcrThough it seems to be a bit broken for me at the moment17:08
tintintintin i have an kubuntu jaunty instalation with LDAP and now im configuring the users profiles. How can i block the Desktop panels to the users when they connect?17:10
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RovanionCan anyone help me with kdenlive? It crashes when launched17:26
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draikHello everyone18:17
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Hoshi-no-Kaabii.18:20
eduhello everybody, someone from brazil?18:36
tsimpson!br18:37
ubottuPor favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Obrigado.18:37
PiciThey left18:37
tsimpsonah, so they did18:38
dyolpheuh c'est où qu'on voit la liste des canals s'il-vous-plaît ?18:41
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dyolpheuh c'est où qu'on voit la liste des canals s'il-vous-plaît ? !!!!!!!18:45
Pici!fr | dyolph18:45
ubottudyolph: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr18:46
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Peace-kmix(24902) Mixer::openIfValid: Mixer::open() detected master:  "PCM:0"19:00
Peace-anyone know what does it mean?19:00
Peace-kmix(24902) Mixer::openIfValid: Mixer::open() detected master:  "PCM:0"19:00
Peace-i have no audio ...19:00
Peace-i should restart to get it back19:01
Peace--.-''19:01
Phoenix_the_IIMeh, why doesnt the NetworkManager pick up the Wired connection i added to the list?19:03
Phoenix_the_IIand still won't use the static configuration i added in the wired tab19:03
moukaHi all19:10
moukaI am trying to install ogre 3d on my desktop19:11
moukabut when I get to compiling it from source, I get some errors19:11
moukaanybody can help?19:11
moukahere's what I am getting19:13
moukahttp://pastebin.com/d1ff943c819:13
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jduso, how do I set it up so that I can easily move windows from one desktop to another?  I would like to just be able to grab the title bar.  Also, is there a keyboard shortcut?19:17
ActionParsnipjdu: kde will do that, or you can right click the decorator -> move to desktop x19:21
moukaanybody can help with ogre 3d?19:22
jduok, I just didn't see a way to enable it in the preferences (or with a quick google).  Multiple clicks don't please me either.19:23
jdugenerally I am rather keyboard oriented.19:24
tsimpsonjdu: System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse > Global Keyboard Shortcuts > KWin, look for the "Window to Desktop #" actions19:27
jdutsimpson: thanks!  I had looked in the window management sections etc. but not there.  ;/19:30
Laeborg!pptp19:35
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about pptp19:35
ShadozeHey all19:35
ralphhow do i create links between different folders like i could in gnome? i want it to go to another partition whenever it says ~/.wine19:40
jduyou want .wine to be on a different partition?19:41
ralphjdu: no, i just want it how it used to be set up wqhere the .wine directory linked to another partition that had more free space than my /home at the time19:43
jduralph: It was probably done by adding a line to /etc/fstab  where ~/.wine would be a mount point for the other filesystem.19:44
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ralphjdu: i did it via right-click menu in gnome, but the closest proxy in KDE i can't make heads or tails of19:45
ralphok THAT time it worked it seems19:47
jduralph: I use gnome a lot, and i've never seen the option.  Interesting.  Well, If you have another partition to use, you can probably do it by copying .wine to the partition, adding it to /etc/fstab, and running: sudo mount -a19:47
jduralph: ok, good19:48
jdudo you remember where the option was in gnome?19:48
ralphjdu in a right-click menu19:48
jduon the folder?19:49
ralphi just found how to use a similar option in KDE19:49
ralphyup19:49
slow-motionhi20:04
hunter_very good side http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Intrepid#Add_repository_keys20:05
winterelfhi.. need help with something... i installed kubuntu 9.04 and it looks bad.. i use yakuake and compiz but nothing seems to work very smooth.. even the graphics desktop  in the old kubuntu i had i diferent from this 9.04.. it looks like the 8.04 remix with widgets and stuff20:38
StormWingedhi guys... because i did a mistake by typing sudo hal-disable-polling --device /dev/cdrom0 , now brasero dont see my dvd unit, how i can enable that ?20:45
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LuisJaei guysi  have one problem using purplesurge java chat with firefox, the windows doesnt show, can someone help me?20:49
LuisJa???20:51
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LuisJaei guysi  have one problem using purplesurge java chat with firefox, the windows doesnt show, can someone help me?20:53
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pulaskiHi, does anyone know anything about the bluetooth device wizard20:59
phhpulaski: what about it ?21:00
phh(else than it does nearly nothing)21:00
phhpulaski: if you want to do anything with bluetooth, your only hope is blueman21:01
phh(or looking at bluetooth stack's source code.)21:01
pulaskiI just installed ubuntu 9.04 and I have a bluetooth enabled T-Mobile G1 cellphone that I am trying to connect to my computer21:02
phhwhat do you mean with "to connect to"?21:02
phhfile exchange ?21:02
phhinternet connection ?21:02
pulaskiyes21:02
pulaskisome kind of interface21:02
phhyes for which one ? /o\21:02
pulaskifile exchange21:02
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phhpulaski: you have the "send file" option on each side of the connection21:03
phh(yes you have to do send file from the phone to send a file to the computer)21:03
phhif you want better option you need obex support and afaik it hasn't been ported to kde4 yet21:04
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tsukasahello what type of package i suspot to instll when an upgrade is available debian or hardy?21:05
pulaskiphh: thanks for responding. I'm searching ubuntu forums and the web generally looking for anything to try to get my computer to recognize this phone device.  I have enabled bluetooth on my box using sudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth start but where do I go from there?21:06
phhpulaski: you do have the bluetooth icon in systray ?21:07
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pulaskino, my device icon only displays my thumbdrive as connected21:08
phhnot in device icon ...21:08
phhsystray21:08
phhwhere you have the sound mixer21:08
pulaskiphh: no there is no icon in my systray21:09
phhalt-f2, type kbluetooth4 and enter21:10
phhit should appear21:10
pulaskiphh: thanks, that command tells me kbluetooth4 is already running21:14
phhdamn, second case21:15
phhand i still have no idea what cause that21:15
phhpulaski: you show all systray icons ? (some may be hidden)21:15
mintuxhi I can't make a video dvd with k3b (from mpg file ) I got http://codepad.org/5lh1kSsn and its http://i44.tinypic.com/29wtvp.png21:15
pulaskian the icon did briefly app appear in the as soon as I began to type bluethooh in the run command window but not in the systray.21:17
phhmintux: i think you have to prepare the tree with dvdauthor21:17
phh(or qdvdauthor for a gui)21:17
phhpulaski: try installing blueman anyway21:17
pulaskiphh: Thanks I try that21:18
mintuxphh I worked on mpg with dvdauthor ?21:20
phhmintux: that's a statement or a question ?21:20
mintuxphh sorry it's question21:20
mintuxshould I work ... ?21:21
phhoh21:21
phhqdvdauthor is more like just a script taking mpg as open and dvd structure as output21:21
mintuxphh I installed dvdauthor21:22
mintuxit's hard to wirk with it?21:22
mintux**work21:22
phhno idea21:22
phhbut it's a cli21:22
phhyou'd better use qdvdauthor21:23
kaddihi, somebody suggested smplayer to me and I would like to try it. Just started it for the first time, it told me my mplayer was too old to work properly. I just checked apt-cache policy says mplayer is up to date:2:1.0~rc2-0ubuntu19. smplayer is 0.6.6-0ubuntu1. Do I need some special experimental release to use smplayer? What could be the problem?21:23
phhkaddi: well, even if it's the last release, it's several months (meaning 2 years.) old21:24
phhso yes it's kind of outdated21:25
kaddiphh: ok, so how do I get the shiny new one? :D21:25
phhyou have to find mplayer build snapshots21:25
shinygerbil:O21:25
phhnot sure how you're supposed to do21:25
phh(i prefer rebuilding it by myself :D)21:25
* shinygerbil sets reminder to stop being highlighted on the word "shiny"21:25
* kaddi has never done that21:25
phhkaddi: i think of two options: use debian multimedia (hoping it works for ubuntu), or searching for a ppa21:26
kaddiis it easy? would it be a good program for a first try? is there a tutorial for that somewhere?21:26
phhkaddi: ergh.. no.21:26
phhyou should really not begin with that one :p21:26
kaddiok :p21:26
ActionParsnipphh: or compile21:27
phhActionParsnip: building mplayer is far from being an easy task to do it correctly ...21:27
ActionParsnipphh: true but possible21:27
bwv544someone that use midi keyboard ?21:29
kaddidoes this look like the ppa I would want for a newer version of mplayer: https://launchpad.net/~rvm/+archive/ppa ? (I'd say yes, but I'd like somebody to adhere, so I can blame him if things go wrong ;) )21:29
phhkaddi: maybe take a look at medibuntu21:29
justin_y is kubuntu so slow?21:30
phhkaddi: it seems good to me21:31
ActionParsnipjustin_: kde uses more reources than other DEs21:31
phhbut hum21:31
phhno jaunty release21:31
justin_so it needs more then windows vista?21:31
ActionParsnipjustin_: no way, way less21:31
justin_thats odd cause I got rid of vista for kubuntu and vista ran smooth but kubuntu is really choppy21:32
phhkaddi: well, medibuntu is outdated, rvm's ppa isn't for jaunty21:32
phhi guess you're gonna build it yourself21:32
phh(if you really need it)21:32
ActionParsnipjustin_: windows has greater driver support21:32
kaddiphh: yes noticed that too.. but they do offer jaunty jackalope in the select menu for the display of the sources.list21:33
Tm_TActionParsnip: ...in some cases21:33
ActionParsnipjustin_: you will need to install and configure video drivers for your display21:33
phhkaddi: i guess there is just no package in jaunty repo then21:33
ActionParsnipTm_T: i'd say in most21:33
justin_where do I find those?21:33
ActionParsnipjustin_: lspci | grep -i vga    will tell you what you have, you can websearch from there21:34
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ubunturosI guess, this is a very good article: http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reports/6757/1/21:50
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astrobearis there an equivalent of the ubuntu remix with kde?21:54
iivv_how do i mount iso's in kubuntu?21:54
astrobearhttp://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Netbook+Plasma+Theme?content=92433 is nice  but i'm not sure if it's what i'm looking for21:54
tsimpson!iso | iivv_21:55
ubottuiivv_: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.21:55
ghoulyhi, a program (ktorrent) crashes on me (sigsegv 11), in the "KDE Crash Handler" dialog when i click details, it says "unable to create a valid backtrace",  "This is probably because your packages are built in a way which prevents creation of proper backtraces"  , is there anything i can do about that or is it a general problem ?21:56
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kbntuchrisghouly: Does it only crash when you type in a url, or is it any command?21:58
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tsimpsonghouly: you don't have the debugging packages installed21:58
ghoulyit crashes everytime when change max download speed via tray icon, there isn't a bugreport for that yet so i wanted to try an make one21:58
ghoulywhat debug packages do i need ? ktorrent ones or generic ?21:59
tsimpsonyou'll want ktorrent-dbg and probably kdebase-runtime-dbg21:59
LuisJai got a huge problem: i have a ps3, i like to play music with it, all my other music than i downloaded its from vista and works well, but 3 than i downloaded wtih linux, the ps3 says: not compatible, and its mp3, WTH???? i need help21:59
tsimpson(rather a large download in total)21:59
ghoulyok, thanks, i'll try that =)21:59
ghoulyyeah, but i guess this wasn't the last crash i've seen in kde4, and since they made such a nice crash-handler dialog it might be worth it22:00
Phibeshow to use a .sh?22:00
LuisJai need help pls22:00
Phibeswine wants to open it, and thats wrong22:00
tsimpsonghouly: the crash handler was in KDE3 as well22:00
ghoulythey should add some info there about downloading the debug packages for the program though *g*22:00
ghoulyhmm, it was kinda different i think,  just a bomb dialog or something, i don't remember exactly22:01
ghoulythis stacktrace thing seems to be a really good addition if it works22:01
kbntuchrisAnyone got experience with compcache .5322:01
tsimpsonKDE cant know if it's a distro package or compiled yourself, it can no know how to install packages or if your distro provides packages22:01
ghoulya simple "try installing debug packages for the program" might help %)22:02
LuisJai got a huge problem: i have a ps3, i like to play music with it, all my other music than i downloaded its from vista and works well, but 3 than i downloaded wtih linux, the ps3 says: not compatible, and its mp3, WTH???? i need help22:02
tsimpsonghouly: it cant know that it's a package, you may have compiled it yourself22:03
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tsimpsonLuisJa: stop repeating that, if someone knows they'll reply22:03
iivv_tsimpson: when i use the mount command to mount an iso to cdrom0, i get a 'specify filesystem type' error22:03
iivv_i guess i should put in iso9660, but where22:04
tsimpsoniivv_: try with "-t iso9660"22:04
kbntuchrisiivv_: Don't forget -o loop22:04
iivv_i still get an error, although it looks like it gave it a try: wrong fs type, bad superblock... etc22:05
kbntuchrisiivv_: Have you verified the ISO isn't corrupt?22:06
tsimpsoniivv_: what is the output of "file <filename>" ? (replacing <filename> with the file you want to mount)22:06
iivv_i've used it on windows before22:06
iivv_tsimpson: Deus Ex - GOTY Edition.iso: data22:07
tsimpsonthen it's not an ISO22:07
tsimpsonit's either corrupt or some proprietary format22:07
iivv_tsimpson: really??? ... how am i going to install deus ex...22:10
iivv_kbntuchris: how would i go about verifying the iso22:10
kbntuchrisiivv_: Do you still have access to a windows box?22:10
iivv_i dual boot22:10
kbntuchrisiivv_: You might try mounting it in windows, and ripping it to an iso...22:11
iivv_ok22:11
kbntuchrisiivv_: I've run into .iso files that were actually .nrg for example, and somewhere along the line got renamed. Nero will notice it's not what it says and open it w/o issue..I wouldn't be suprised if Daemon Tools operates the same way...22:12
Phibeshow to check if your iso is or is not iso966022:18
tsimpsonPhibes: use the "file" command, that'll print what type of data the file contains22:19
Phibesk, thx22:19
Phibesrld-sim3.iso: data22:19
Phibeslol22:19
ralphanybody know of a way to know which directories from /home are unused by any programs? i used to run KDE over normal ubuntu (gnome) so i don't know how many files are left over for no reason22:20
tsimpsonthat's an unknown type, "data"22:20
Phibesso it isnt 9660... damn22:20
ralphnow i run pure KDE but my /home was in a seperate directory22:20
Phibesso, am i correct in thinking terminal cant mount it?22:21
ralphseperate partition*22:21
kbntuchrisralph: You could probably do something with last accessed time to determine what hasn't been touched since you switched to kde22:22
kbntuchrisralph: I couldn't tell you an efficient way of doing it though : /22:23
kbntuchrisralph: Maybe someone could help you running an ls through grep and grab dates before a certain date. If you mount your file system with noatime tho, then you'll need another route.22:26
ralphdolphin only has the ambiguous option to sort by date22:26
ralphwho knows if that is date created or date accessed22:26
eypherathHi...Does someone have a clue, why my sound doesn't work, even though system-noises are played perfectly, but anything else is just noisily silent?22:26
kbntuchrisralph: Yeh, you need to use ls -u in a konsole, or stat -c %x (filename) would do it per file...22:28
Phibeseypherath, are the system noises coming from your boxes or your motherboard?22:30
kbntuchrisralph: you might need ls -ul to get dates up22:30
eypherath@Phibes: With noises I mean this ear piercing music playing at startup and shutdown...22:31
kbntuchrisralph: you might need ls -Rul to get dates up will do it recursive, but I expect the output's gonna be a bit much to go through manually...22:31
eypherathAnd it's coming from my boxes...22:31
Phibesoh, dont have a clue then :P22:31
Phibesgood luck, im off22:31
eypherathThanks...22:31
iloreypherath: had a similar issue, amarok and system sounds worked, movie players had no sound22:31
iloreypherath: twiddling with preferences-sound somehow fixed the issue22:33
kbntuchrisDoes anyone know if it matters where under my /lib/modules/my+kernel+ver+/ I dump modules, and if there's anything besides depmod -A I need to do after I drop it in?22:33
ralphkbntuchris: is this output sorted in anyway?22:34
kbntuchrisralph: With just the options I gave you, no..22:34
kbntuchrisralph I know grep can sort/manipulate ls output and could be used to dump only the files not accessed since a certain date, but grep is something that I always need help to use myself : P Me and grep get into fights.22:35
kbntuchriswhich is sad. it's amazingly useful.22:35
ralphanybody know how to use grep to submit a list of every director/file not used since a certain date?22:36
eypherath@ilor I am trying to run amarok right now...Somehow doesn't want to play any files at all...22:36
eypherath@ilor What exactly did you do to fix it? I am quite new to Kubuntu and KDE4...22:38
kbntuchrisralph: Actually...Find is probably better. I just remembered it...22:38
kbntuchrisralph: 'man find' should shed some light.22:38
iloreypherath: I *think* I set it all to use pulseaudio and only then the test sound worked22:42
ralphkbntuchris: i used find -atime +10 > tendayoldfiles.txt22:43
kbntuchrisralph: That should work =D22:44
kbntuchrisbut keep in mind, a program might not touch EVERY file, but many usually have their own directory so if something in a dir tree was touched recently, the whole dir might belong to a program you still use.22:45
eypherath@ ilor : I got it all set to use my soundcard and the test sound works...But the sound in video and flash still doesn't work...If amarok works, I do not know yet...Still trying to fix it..22:45
kbntuchrisralph: basically, back up your $home and hang on to it for a few days22:45
iwohey, is the windows key still not usable as both a modifer _and_ regular key in kde4?22:45
iwomodifier22:45
iwoJust read this from the kde3 docs:22:47
iwo"This feature was removed for reasons of usability and accessibility, as well as keeping the code clean..."22:47
iwowtf?!22:47
ign0ramusiwo, by default, Win+(n) is used by Amarok22:47
ign0ramusiwo, in KDE422:47
eypherath@ ilor : Well...sound does not play, when I run the files with vlc...22:47
iwoign0ramus: not sure I understand what you mean. by default the win key is a modifier key (Meta)...22:47
ign0ramusiwo, oh, i thought you were asking if it could used as a modifier OR regular key22:48
iwoto get the win key to open the kde menu, i'd have remap to e.g. F13 (and the Win key will no longer be a modifier key)22:48
ign0ramusmutually exclusive22:48
ign0ramusiwo, it works as "meta+" , but now as a regular key, at least in my experience22:49
ign0ramus*but not22:49
kbntuchrisiwo: One or the other, but not both at the same time...22:49
iwofrom the docs:22:49
iwo"Previous versions of KDE provided a trick to allow you to use the Windows® key both as a modifier (so you could have shortcuts like Win+R), and as a regular key (so that pressing Win on its own could open the K menu)."22:49
kbntuchrisiwo: I feel your pain22:49
iwowhy on earth was this feature removed, when practically every consumer keyboard on the planet now has this key?!22:50
kbntuchrisiwo: I imagine it could be patched back in..Maybe someone's got a patch out..22:50
iwo'to keep the code clean' is not a valid reason22:50
iwogood point kbntuchris, will keep searching22:51
ralphi dunno it makes sense to keep the windows key as a modifier-only key, unusual functionality can cause probelms i guess22:51
kbntuchrisiwo: Seems like something someone would miss enough to revert it.22:52
kbntuchrisAs far as reasons to take it out, I would expect a better explanation than clean code as well. I never had buggy kde problems with it as both. Maybe it has something to do with VM compatibility? That's something I would expect to be distro specific though. Who knows what ye gods are thinking...22:53
ign0ramusiwo, from an older post "you can change the signal sent by the window key from "mod4" to super_L and super_R (left and right windows keys)."22:53
ign0ramusiwo, not sure if that still applies22:53
iwoign0ramus: yeah, i don't quite understand that either (and other blogs that say similar things) - who has two windows keys?!22:55
iwo(or maybe only UK keyboards have 1?)22:55
kbntuchrisiwo: I've got 222:55
ign0ramusiwo, my American laptops only have 122:55
kbntuchrisiwo: I've also got some key with a menu on it.22:56
ign0ramuskbntuchris, that key is actually functional, though22:56
ralpham i missing something? or does Kubuntu not have a default app for opening .deb?22:56
kbntuchrisseems to be a right click22:56
ign0ramusyup, exactly22:56
kbntuchrisralph: It should use kpackagekit.22:56
ign0ramusralph, right click and open with kpackagkit. have the system remember the setting22:57
iwoah i see, so super_L is the windows key, super_R is the 'context' key (right-click22:57
iwo)22:57
ign0ramusright22:57
ign0ramus...or left, i suppose ;)22:57
iwo:D22:58
ign0ramusiwo, no, wait.. actually i think super_R is Right Windows Key and super_L is Left Windows Key22:58
ign0ramusiwo, at least, that22:58
ign0ramus's what i took from it22:58
iwodoes anyone really have a right windows key?22:58
ign0ramusiwo, i sounded like kbntuchris does22:59
tsimpsoniwo: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/21941222:59
iwofunny thing is, alt-f1 doesn't work for me for some reason, on a fresh kubuntu 9.0422:59
ign0ramusiwo, afaik, it does not work after Intrepid23:02
eypherath@ ilor: Well...Amarok works...At least playing online streams...^^ But playing sound files with vlc, playing video files and opening flash files results in deep, deep silence...23:02
ign0ramusiwo, apparently, having a key that works as a meta key *and* a trigger for a particular action causes problems... http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154564#c723:03
iwoso how the **** do you get the menu to appear now >:@23:03
iwo?!23:03
iloreypherath: can't really help you more since I don't understand the underlying issue, and git it fixed for me pretty much by chance23:03
iwoif i do switch the key to be a regular key (F13), i'm not sure how to actually map that to show the kde menu...23:04
iwowhen i enter the keyboard shortcuts screen, there's no kde menu or kicker option, or anything else that will open the menu23:04
iwodoes anyone know what it's called?23:05
phhiwo: right click on the icon of the menu, settings, and there shortcut23:05
ign0ramusiwo, see here: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3095141.msg134453#msg13445323:05
iwoyeah, been reading that post - i'm not sure the same applies to kde4 tho...23:06
iwoi don't have a Regional & Accessibility menu option23:07
ign0ramusiwo, you should in System Settings > Advanced23:07
ign0ramusiwo, no wait, it's in General.  sorry23:07
ign0ramusiwo, if you type in "keyboard", it should be one of the options23:08
tsimpsonit's under Keyboard & Mouse now23:08
iwoyeah, i have no Popup Launch Menu in that list though :-\23:09
tsimpsonunder "Global Keyboard Shortcuts" and the "Plasma Workspace" component23:09
ign0ramustsimpson, it may be because i'm running kde 4.2.3, but there is a separate entry in System Settings for Regional & Accessibility23:09
phhiwo: the way i told you works easier ...23:09
iwoah, thanks tsimpson23:09
tsimpsonign0ramus: shouldn't that be "Regional & Language" ?23:10
phh(it's easier and logicer btw)23:10
iwoah yes, cheers phh, sorry, missed that one in the chat window :)23:10
ign0ramustsimpson, yes, that's what i meant, I just c/p'd the comment above ;)23:10
tsimpsonign0ramus: keyboard shortcuts aren't under that any more, it's in "Keyboard & Mouse" (where you'd expect it)23:11
phhtsimpson: well, for the menu, you'll expect it in the menu settings... and it is there.23:12
iwookay... and for some reason it doesn't work :'(23:12
ign0ramustsimpson, oh, i know... but iwo was saying he couldn't find the Regional & Language menu...23:12
phhiwo: oh23:12
iwoopened the dialog, set the shortcut key by pressing windows key (F13 pops up in the box), press ok...23:13
iwoand nothing happens when i press the key :'(23:13
ign0ramusiwo, you still have to remap the input of the Windows key23:13
iwoneeds a restart of plasma maybe?23:13
phhiwo: werid, for me it works23:13
phh(well i use kde 4.3, but iirc it was the same for 4.2)23:14
iwoign0ramus: yeah, I remapped to F13 using xmodmap23:14
iwonow when i press the key, 'F13' appears in the shortcut dialog (so it must be mapped right)23:14
ign0ramusiwo, and still nothing?23:14
phhiwo: mmm maybe not23:15
phhit can still be a modifier23:15
phh(i looked at the xmodmap man and it seems weird)23:15
iwo...just trying some other keys to see if any key combo works23:16
iwoyeah, other key combos work, but not F1323:19
phhiwo: can you paste xmodmap results?23:20
iwopasted here: http://pastebin.com/d3c12426b23:23
iwoi used xev to get the keycode23:23
phhiwo: no, i mean the answer of the xmodmap command23:24
iwoit's silent, when I run with -verbose, i get the output at that url23:25
phh?!?23:25
phhyou should get something like:23:25
phhshift       Shift_L (0x32),  Shift_R (0x3e)23:25
phhlock        Caps_Lock (0x42)23:25
phhcontrol     Control_L (0x25),  Control_R (0x69)23:25
iwosorry, i thought you meant the output that i get when mapping the key :D23:25
iwohttp://pastebin.com/d5628412523:26
phhiwo: and xmodmap -pk |grep 13323:27
iwo   133         0xffca (F13)23:28
phhdamned23:28
phhiwo: ok you can try restarting plasma.23:29
iwo:)23:29
phhor you can use alt-f1 shortcut as everyone windows-less does.23:30
ign0ramusphh, alt+f1 never worked for me on Jaunty23:30
phhign0ramus: you can set the shortcut how you want ...23:31
iwoyeah, i guess so. unfortunately (like most people), i don't have the luxury of using a kde desktop wherever i go (which is why i'd like to be able to map keys to do what the rest of the known world does)...23:31
phhjust works fine here if setted23:31
ign0ramusphh, what command do you have it bound to?23:31
iwobut that's a kde problem :)23:31
phhign0ramus: right click on the menu plasmoid, settings, shortcut23:32
ign0ramusphh, maybe i'm missing something... right-click on the kmenu icon on the panel?23:33
phhyep23:33
ign0ramusphh, "application launcher menu settings"?23:33
phhyes23:33
ign0ramusphh, ahh... i see now23:34
phh:-)23:34
ign0ramusphh, as xmodmap is dependent on X, i'm going to restart X and see if my changes have taken effect23:34
draikign0ramus: YO23:34
ign0ramusdraik, brb dude23:34
ign0ramusdraik, sup?23:35
ign0ramusphh, no go... it sets back to "meta+" :(23:36
draikign0ramus: Nothing much. Trying to write my own shell script but I can't get it to execute anything based on user input.23:37
phhyep, i never succeded using this damn key for anything else than meta23:37
ign0ramusphh, in fact, my keyboard was frozen upon restarting of X... I had to use the alt+f7 trick to get keyboard back23:37
ign0ramusdraik, a script to do what?23:37
draikign0ramus: Many things. It's more of a shortcut to update/upgrade, backups, du, df, etc.23:38
ign0ramusdraik, using aliases or full commands?23:39
draikign0ramus: Full commands.23:39
iwoif anyone wants to help get this fixed, you could vote here:23:39
iwohttps://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15456423:39
ign0ramusdraik, ok... i actually stole many of your aliases (sorry), but I found that aliases don't register as the actual commands for many things23:39
iwojust signup (only need an email, no other details), then log in and click vote (and assign 20 votes :))23:40
draikMy aliases are for all to own/share, so don't apologize.23:40
ign0ramusdraik, i use 'dg' on a semi-hourly basis ;)23:40
ign0ramusdraik, mostly for the xorg-edgers PPA... they update frequently23:40
draikI have changed it to 'up' on this server, netbook and 2 other computers.23:40
ign0ramusdraik, for update && upgrade?23:41
draikign0ramus: Why not create the 'dg' as a cron job?23:41
draikign0ramus: Yes. for update && upgrade23:41
ign0ramusdraik, never even thought of it :D23:41
draikign0ramus: Good alcohol, huh?23:42
ign0ramusdraik, i would assume a terminal would have to be open for the cron job to work, eh?23:42
draikign0ramus: Nope.23:42
ign0ramusdraik, the Glenlivet always treats me well :)23:42
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draikign0ramus: So yeah. I've been beating myself senseless trying to figure out what I'm doing wrong.23:47
ign0ramusdraik, feel like pasting the script?23:48
draikign0ramus: Sure thing. How again?23:50
draikI'm on the server, not GUI23:50
iwodoes anyone know how i can check what kde version i'm using? or does anyone already know what the version currently included in kubuntu 9.04 is?23:50
ign0ramusdraik, pastebinit?23:51
draikiwo: KDE4, but you can always check by going to Konqueror > Help > About23:51
draikign0ramus: Sorry. I meant to ask for the syntax of pastebinit23:51
draikBTW, do you have my23:51
ign0ramusdraik, i've never actually used it... :/23:52
draikBTW, do you have my 'sagi' alias?23:52
ign0ramusdraik, that's a new one23:52
draiksagi - Sudo Apt-Get Install23:52
draikLowercase, of course, but just showing my reasoning23:53
ign0ramusdraik, got it, i just aliased it to 'get'23:54
ign0ramusdraik, syntax: pastebinit -i /etc/X11/xorg.conf http://rafb.net23:54
draikign0ramus: I have the link, gimme a sec to go from TTY1 to TTY223:54
ign0ramusdraik, k23:55
draikhttp://pastebin.com/f60ab57b023:55
ign0ramusdraik, can you even get the first echo question to print?23:56
draikAll of that works23:56
ign0ramusdraik, well then what?23:56
draikI get to the input23:57
draikThen at the prompt, pfft23:57
draikEnter whatever you want and it terminates23:57
ign0ramushmm....23:57
draikign0ramus: Sorry. I just ran it again. This latest revision gives errors23:57
draikAll of the echos work, but I get errors about the commands23:58
draikcompile and see for yourself23:58
ign0ramusdraik, i was going to ask about that...23:58
ign0ramusdraik, instead of labeling, if you just give the direct command, does it make a difference?23:58
draikg++ -o file.sh MyScript23:58
ign0ramusdraik, for testing purposes, of course23:58
draikign0ramus: I don't want it to run, I want it to assign it to the letter of my choice and then run when told to do so.23:59
ign0ramusdraik, i know, but i'm wondering if you're labeling is causing the fault23:59
ign0ramus*your labeling23:59

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