[00:01] <edge> Is there a offical Kstars chan?
[00:25] <InfernoLinux> Does anyone know why Konsole wouldnt work? I can open it but it does not give me the "username@system:~$" string and will not allow me to type
[00:26] <GinoMan> what program can I use to record a stream?
[00:27] <kubu> what repos do I need Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "acroread"
[00:28] <InfernoLinux> GinoMan http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-335642.html
[00:30] <_myrtille_> kubu what do you want to do? if you just want to open pdf-files try okular. it's the default pdf-reader in kde
[00:30] <kubu> I like adobe
[00:31] <InfernoLinux> adobe + kubuntu = bad times
[00:32] <Barridus> what's an alternate KDE4 compatable window manager other than Kwin and Openbox?
[00:32] <GinoMan> thanks InfernoLinux
[00:32] <InfernoLinux> your welcome GinoMan
[00:34] <InfernoLinux> I really wish I could figure out whats wrong with konsole.
[00:34] <InfernoLinux> Anyone have ideas on where to start?
[00:35] <kaddi> kubu open your package manager (k-menu->system->package manager (adept))
[00:35] <kubu> ?
[00:35] <kaddi> kubu: go to view, select software sources, select edit software sources, select third party and check the following two lines:
[00:36] <_zero> so, nobody knows anything about system tray not showing correct icons?
[00:36] <kaddi> sry, the following line: http://archive canonical.com/ubuntu jaunty partner
[00:36] <Barridus> _zero did you try and install kde 4.3?
[00:37] <Barridus> (not suggesting you should, but wondering if that's your issue)
[00:37] <_zero> Barridus: No, no, 4.2 here
[00:37] <kaddi> kubu: close that window and press "fetch current package lists" afterwards you should be able to find adobe reader by searching for acroread
[00:38] <phh> _zero: hum, i got that problem earlier, but it just fixed by itself
[00:38] <phh> _zero: you've made all updates ?
[00:38] <_zero> phh: ah, well... mine isn't :)
[00:38] <_zero> phh: not sure... I understand that 4.2.3 is still on ppa, right?
[00:40] <kubu> kaddi don't see acroread
[00:41] <InfernoLinux> kabu http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/06/23/install-adobe-acrobat-reader-812-on-ubuntu-804/
[00:41] <InfernoLinux> sorry, Kubu
[00:42] <kubu> Thanks InfernoLinux
[00:43] <InfernoLinux> welcome kubu
[00:51] <libervisco> What is the command to start "System Settings" from terminal?
[00:53] <libervisco> got it
[00:59] <Barridus> ok, so the "show desktop" widget only works with kwin?
[00:59] <kde185> Alright it's been over a year since KDE 4, when is installing a new plasmoid (IE gmail plasmoid) from Get Hot New Stuff going to actually work?
[01:00] <Barridus> some install ok, right?  or are all b0rk3d
[01:01] <kde185> some install fine
[01:06] <ryann> hello!  i am running kubuntu 9.10 (karmic) and can't seem to get wireless working under the management of kde-network-manager
[01:06] <ryann> are there any known issues?
[01:06] <LadyNikon> ryann: what do you mean you cant get it working?
[01:07] <LadyNikon> what happens?
[01:07] <ryann> well, the interface is detected
[01:07] <ryann> and is working with the b43 drivers
[01:07] <ryann> i have verified this with airodump
[01:08] <ryann> also, kde-network-manager lists aps
[01:08] <ryann> upon selecting any, i am prompted to authenticate
[01:08] <ryann> yet it never properly authenticates
[01:08] <ryann> just loops asking me for the wpa-psk
[01:08] <LadyNikon> is there actually wpa?
[01:08] <ryann> yes
[01:09] <ryann> mine here is wpa-psk
[01:09] <ryann> using AES
[01:09] <ryann> it had worked just prior to upgrading the distribution
[01:10] <LadyNikon> ah
[01:10] <LadyNikon> i had a similar issue in ubuntus manager..
[01:10] <LadyNikon> but there was no wep.
[01:10] <ryann> i've even displaced my .kde directory and tried a new session
[01:10] <ryann> hoping it was perhaps a config or kwallet issue
[01:11] <occupant> wow, I'd just like to complain about the installer installing grub on a hard drive other than the one I installed on
[01:11] <occupant> I knew I should have unplugged my other drives first, but I really didn't think it would do something like that. lame, lame, lame
[01:12] <ryann> occupant, the kubuntu install wrote grub to the mbr of more than one physical disk?
[01:12] <LadyNikon> occupant: before you decided to complain are you sure that you didnt select something wrong by accident?
[01:12] <LadyNikon> occupant: have you filed a bug report?
[01:14] <occupant> installed on the mbr of my hackintosh drive, no grub on the ubuntu drive. I admittedly did easy settings and just specified drive
[01:14] <occupant> should I have done 'specify partitions' to set what happens with grub/mbr?
[01:15] <LadyNikon> i would have just to check and see
[01:15] <LadyNikon> but thats because i am overly cautious
[01:17] <rodrox> Hi all!
[01:19] <ryann> also..
[01:19] <ryann> since upgrading to karmic
[01:19] <ryann> my touch pad no longer scrolls
[01:20] <ryann> LadyNikon,  check this out
[01:20] <ryann> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-widget-network-manager/+bug/378145
[01:20] <ryann> BluesKaj plugged that in #kde
[01:23] <ryann> brb
[01:25] <nameiner> hi folks
[01:26] <nameiner> anyone know how to start a kde app from a script that's called by a cron job? I always get an error telling me, that my app is KUniqueApplication.
[01:28] <nameiner> my script:
[01:28] <nameiner> #!/bin/bash
[01:28] <nameiner> /usr/bin/kmail #that's only an example
[01:30] <flector> Tracker issue
[01:31] <flector> two "can't index" dialogs, won't close
[01:31] <yao_ziyuan> is there kde 4.3 beta packages for jaunty?
[01:32] <yao_ziyuan> last night i tried to upgrade to karmic but i was afraid of endless updates for the next 6 months
[01:32] <GinoMan> how do I restart the compositing effects
[01:32] <GinoMan> because it crashed for some reason
[01:32] <nameiner> GinoMan: try Ctrl+Shift+F12
[01:33] <InfernoLinux> Alright so I consulted a fellow linux enthusiast "dad" and he has suggested that My terminal will not display "username@system~$" because of a network issue. So I cheesed my way into getting my network configured and now I have wireless and wired connections. But konsole still wont post. what do I do? its just black
[01:33] <flector> not to ask a stupid question, but how to get a process list, close one?
[01:33] <InfernoLinux> flector systemMonitor
[01:33] <GinoMan> it's not working
[01:34] <nameiner> flector: ps ax
[01:35] <flector> ps ax what?  in Konsole as su
[01:35] <nameiner> flector: in Konsole, no su
[01:35] <flector> trying to close two uncloseable Tracker applets
[01:37] <InfernoLinux> flector  you can type "ps ax" in console for a text based PID list, or you can press alt+f2 and type
[01:37] <InfernoLinux> flector "system monitor
[01:37] <InfernoLinux> "
[01:37] <InfernoLinux> flector I prefer system monitor because i like to look at realtime system usage
[01:39] <flector> not a big deal, can't seem to close it
[01:39] <InfernoLinux> sudo kill "pid number"
[01:39] <flector> that worked
[01:40] <InfernoLinux> its my favorite command =)
[01:40] <flector> thanks ;)
[01:41] <flector> anybody want to test an app via Wine?
[01:41] <InfernoLinux> what app
[01:41] <flector> html generator free app
[01:42] <flector> haven't decided on wx, qt or gtk yet
[01:43] <flector> http://dirhtml.enware.info/ for what it's worth
[01:43] <InfernoLinux> i would help but i really need to get cracking on my fluid simulation
[01:49] <kubu> Hello is there a command to completly uninstall OOo?
[01:49] <flector> browser set to "winebrowser"
[01:50] <InfernoLinux> sudo apt-get remove OOo
[01:51] <flector> Amarok's getting busy
[01:52] <flector> alas, no cover images, nothing but music
[01:56] <flector> seriously, no right click taskbar, kill?
[01:57] <flector> had to resort to VLC to hear a video
[02:00] <flector> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDfT2NYHyD8
[02:00] <dioshorus> saludos desde Venezuela
[02:01] <dioshorus> saludos desde Venezuela
[02:01] <dioshorus> les tengo una pregunta
[02:01] <InfernoLinux> CAN ANYONE Help me fix /bin/bash
[02:01] <dioshorus> como hago para instalar Openoffice 3.1 en KDE 4
[02:17] <sven_> 64bit version without tricks oh
[02:17] <sven_> 4 cpus but no full use of them
[02:19] <sven_> zou need dam small code for parallel algos
[02:21] <sven_> the dummies of MS received closed code without libs a.k.a. Visual Studio and thez deceive use of 4 cpus for propaganda
[02:22] <Crell> Hi all.  Silly question.  I just accidentally added a word to my spellchecker dictionary by mistake that is in fact wrong.  How can I edit the list of added words to take it back out?
[02:27] <sven_> in suse linux i is a main next server folder where Zou can edit that
[02:28] <sven_> it is NOT for the thesaurus alone but unlimited for anz tzping
[02:33] <FoxBlitzz> Where the heck is qtparted?
[02:40] <JontheEchidna> FoxBlitzz: it's been abandoned by its authors. I'd suggest using partionmanager as a kde alternative
[02:43] <sayaman> hola soy nuevo
[03:03] <wims> is it possible to remove the text from the taskbar buttons so it only shows the program icon like w7 ?
[03:13] <talaman> where do i go to restart a service?
[03:29] <packge> Hello
[03:29] <packge> everybody
[03:30] <packge> 有能认识中文的么
[03:41] <ubuntu_> hey 4 some reason after switching to kubuntu my wifi wont connect and suggestions
[03:42] <bug> i hawe this same prob with ubuntu
[03:42] <bug> 904
[03:42] <ubuntu_> anybody
[03:50] <AlexZion> ho everyone, I just installed Kubuntu 9.04 on my laptop ,and everythink is fine, except for the audio ....; imean , it works on the system, but when I try to watch some video on the web , the audio doesn't works ....
[03:51] <AlexZion> someone can help me with that problem ?
[04:11] <vertagano> Anyone know how I can fix my qt4 designer? I can use QT4 apps, but the designer seg faults before displaying anything.
[04:14] <yankefish> how do i get to this path someone:  System/Admin/hardware Driver
[04:15] <flector> the short version is if you can't compile the lib's you have no business distributing anything
[04:15] <flector> you'd think they give precompiled with each distribution, but no
[04:15] <yankefish> anybody know how do i check whick wireless drivers r installed
[04:16] <flector> having very good luck with CStdString
[04:39] <yao_ziyuan> indeed it seems opensuse supports kde better, as kde.org has listed opensuse as one that has kde 4.3 packages
[04:39] <yao_ziyuan> i know karmic also does
[04:46] <ahmos> hi how i can know my network wireless card type
[04:46] <draik> ahmos: lscpi
[04:47] <ahmos> command not found
[04:47] <draik> whoops
[04:47] <draik> ahmos: lspci
[04:48] <ahmos> draik thank's ;)
[04:48] <draik> ahmos: No worries :)
[04:52] <yao_ziyuan> hatcha!
[04:58] <draik> Does irssi keep a log of all chats?
[05:14] <darren_> anybody here?
[05:17] <genii> darren_: Probably best just to state your issue then see if any takers.
[05:17] <trialnerror> thanks...
[05:19] <trialnerror> how do I disable the update notifier in the, umm, system tray(?) for non primary users?
[05:20] <trialnerror> I dont see it in the plasma widgets
[05:21] <trialnerror> using kubuntu intrepid and kde4.2 BTW
[05:30] <draik> Does irssi have a log of all my chats?
[05:37] <genii> draik: Apparently not by default. http://irssi.org/documentation/startup#c8
[05:39] <draik> genii: Thanks. So it seems that all which I was saying before is lost. Oh well.
[05:39] <genii> draik: If it was in a channel which is logged, check the logs
[05:39] <draik> genii: mostly PM
[05:40] <genii> Ah, too bad.
[05:41] <jerware> hi
[05:41] <draik> Yeah. Live and learn, right?
[05:41] <jerware> i want to program in java. do i have to set class paths ?
[05:47] <talaman> where do i go to restart a service?
[05:47] <draik> jerware: I'm going to start doing the same thing and I don't know anything just yet about programming in Java, but I think you do.
[05:47] <genii> talaman: If the servicename exists in /etc/init.d   directory, you can in Konsole:  sudo /etc/init.d/service-name restart
[05:47] <draik> talaman: What service? The command is typically    'sudo /etc/init.d/SERVICE restart' without the quotes and SERVICE being the service to restart.
[05:48] <talaman> service/daemon
[05:48] <talaman> in the previous version i could go in and say restart smb...now i can't find it
[05:48] <Sir_Brizz> anyone here familiar with kdevelop at all?
[05:49] <genii> talaman: samba (if it is installed) is in there
[05:49] <talaman> genii, samba was an example
[05:49] <draik> talaman: What's the service/daemon?
[05:50] <talaman> any service/daemon
[05:50] <talaman> where in the gui do i find them?
[05:51]  * draik is currently running irssi  on Ubuntu Server 9.04 and thinking, 'GUI???'
[05:51] <genii> draik: Hehe, I empathise
[05:52] <genii> talaman: I'm on kde3. But I find it there to be in System Settings..Advanced tab...System Services
[05:52] <talaman> isn't kubuntu using kde?
[05:52] <draik> talaman: New KDE is KDE4.2
[05:52] <genii> talaman: Different versions of Kubuntu use different KDE versions
[05:52] <draik> talaman: genii is using KDE3, not KDE4.2
[05:53] <talaman> yes, it would seem i upgraded and something got moved
[05:53] <talaman> yeah, i think i'm missing system services
[05:54] <talaman> i got a service manager, but it down't have any outside of kde
[05:55] <draik> talaman: Personally, nothing will ever beat CLI when it comes to true system management. That's my personal opinion, of course.
[05:56] <talaman> well with ubuntu you're probably right... or at least it's a one or the other
[05:57] <draik> Ubuntu uses GNOME, Kubuntu uses KDE. CLI is Terminal for Ubuntu and Konsole for Kubuntu.
[05:57] <talaman> i.e. if you are using cli don't expect it to translate to the gui and if you're using the gui don't expect it to translate to the cli
[05:57] <talaman> ubuntu, kubuntu, any buntu
[05:57] <talaman> all has the same issue
[05:57] <talaman> bbl
[05:58] <talaman> going to try a different version to see if i can get my services back under control
[05:58] <talaman> dang wish pclinuxos would work on the hd
[05:59] <talaman> that was truely the best linux
[05:59] <draik> I don't see how a KDE-related issue is related to the GNOME GUI
[05:59]  * genii shrugs
[05:59] <flector> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmN0mFHDH2w
[06:00] <genii> !ot
[06:00] <flector> woofers, good
[06:01] <jjjjj> hey guys
[06:01] <jjjjj> brb guys gotta get some coffee
[06:01] <genii> flector: The Dead is classic, I agree. Just offtopic for here.
[06:02] <draik> How can I watch the YouTube video on Ubuntu Server 9.04?
[06:03] <genii> draik: Yes, I doubt elinks with svga-libs would do it...
[06:13] <ahmos> hi how i can disable nv-clock
[06:24] <codename> Does the Razer mouse work in Ubuntu?
[06:57] <Captain_Haddock> Jaunty installation: upon reboot, I get a GRUB error "Error 2"
[06:59] <Captain_Haddock> any ideas?
[07:11] <mot> question
[07:11] <mot> what is the process that controls sound output in kubuntu?
[07:11] <mot> i.e. if i have firefox open and i'm watching a youtube video, i've never had a problem opening amarok and putting on some music
[07:11] <mot> i just did a fresh install of 9.04 and there seems to be some issue with sound sharing..if i play any sound in firefox amarok will hang when i try to play a song
[07:12] <mot> i've never had this problem. i also just did a fresh install of the alsa drivers...not really sure where to start debugging
[07:13] <pat___> asdf
[07:25] <Captain_Haddock> mot: I found the same issue on a laptop that I installed for a friend :(
[07:25] <Captain_Haddock> also had issues with graphics (Intel) :S
[07:27] <eagles0513875> Captain_Haddock: in the release notes there was a regression somewhere :(
[07:36] <george_> good evening, I wonder can I use dpkg while installing a .deb and have it check dependencies w/out breaking anything first?
[07:36] <george_> Or more specifically, I want to install libc6 to 2.7 where I have 2.4
[07:39] <Patrique> hi i need to setup runlevel priority list to run ushare at startup but only after i get connected to the internet, but i don't know what's runlevel priority list. i googled it and found nothing useful. Where could I find some documentation on this?
[07:44] <ralph> why does firefox continually refuse to present itself properly to Kubuntu
[07:45] <ralph> it doesn't show up as a web browser for perferred apps and it doesn't show in the internet tab unless i manually add it
[07:55] <ralph> any help'?
[07:58] <tripod> how can i reset the kopete notifcations, i get the popup but there is no buttons in the text, and buttons dont work
[08:00] <Captain_Haddock> eagles0513875: aye, I saw that a tad too late though :|
[08:00] <Elone> hihi
[08:01] <ralph> tripod i found double clicking it at least moves it away
[08:01] <tripod> yes, i know that, thanks though :)
[08:04] <Elone> anyone can inspire me that how do i make kubuntu box to have function of router or ICS?
[08:15] <draik> How do I get the manual for 'read' installed?
[08:45] <GnuBoi> how to install rekonq in kubuntu i am in kubuntu jaunty
[08:49] <Gamarok__> guys can any of you help me out here i am unable to use  any package manager heres the error http://paste.ubuntu.com/177769/
[09:01] <Mamarok> Gamarok__: are you trying to run more than one package manager at a time?
[09:01] <Mamarok> you can't do that
[09:02] <Gamarok__> i fixed it man
[09:03] <Mamarok> Gamarok__: dpkg is an exclusive command, you can only run it in one instance, to avoid package mismatches and install problems
[09:04] <Gamarok__> actually i know that man the thing was i updated my pc and after it was over i switched off my pc and the problem has been happening since
[09:06] <Mamarok> Gamarok__: +wo...
[09:13] <elvis4791> kubuntu.ru есть?
[09:14] <Mamarok> !ru | elvis4791
[09:16] <eagles0513875> what can i use to take a screen shot
[09:16] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: ksnapshot
[09:16] <eagles0513875> thanks
[09:23] <joshua__> wassup
[09:23] <eagles0513875> !hi | joshua__
[09:23] <joshua__> any know how i get to xbins from here
[09:24] <Mamarok> joshua__: tried /join #xbins?
[09:24] <joshua__> yeah
[09:24] <Mamarok> joshua__: are you sure the channel exists?
[09:24] <joshua__> yeah its on effnet i believe
[09:25] <joshua__> its a xbox mod channel
[09:25] <Mamarok> joshua__: then you will have to change the irc net, you are on freenode here
[09:25] <joshua__> ahhh
[09:25] <joshua__> and how would i go bout doin that by chance......sorry im new at this ubuntu stuff
[09:26] <Mamarok> joshua__: in the settings of your IRC client you cna change the IRC net and the channel to join automatically
[09:26] <Mamarok> can*
[09:27] <joshua__> im oblivios to how to do that
[09:27] <Mamarok> joshua__: what IRC client are you using?
[09:27] <joshua__> konversation
[09:28] <joshua__> im used to usin mirc
[09:28] <Mamarok> joshua__: well, the settings don't change from one client to another, maybe just the menu location
[09:29] <joshua__> on mirc everything is there to pick from.....pretty user friendly
[09:29] <Mamarok> joshua__: question of getting used to, konversation is userfriendly too :)
[09:29] <hjb> Hi. I've freshly installed the latest kubuntu 9.04 but have a little trouble:
[09:29] <joshua__> yeah..............im just an idiot
[09:30] <hjb> the kmail help isn't accecible
[09:30] <joshua__> im used to windows...blach
[09:30] <joshua__> i was just converted yesterday to ubuntu
[09:30] <hjb> when i try kmail->help i get "the file kmail/index.html doesn't exist"
[09:30] <Mamarok> hjb: because there is none yet, the khelpcenter has a bug
[09:30] <hjb> Mamarok: when will that be fixed?
[09:31] <Mamarok> joshua__: I didn't say that
[09:31] <Mamarok> hjb: subscribe to the bug and you will get notifyed
[09:31] <Mamarok> hjb: but you can find a lot of help online :)
[09:31] <hjb> Mamarok: ok, thanks
[09:32] <hjb> Mamarok: yeah, but i'm setting up this machine for my father
[09:32] <hjb> Mamarok: i think he would expext that working
[09:32] <Mamarok> hjb: then you will have to do the help I am afraid, at least for now
[09:34] <aftertaf> hjb: maybe get him a bookmark to online help?
[09:35] <aftertaf> and remind him that help not working is a lesser evil than needing for example an antivirus that eats resources
[09:36] <hjb> aftertaf: he was on linux before, but on suse 8 ;)
[09:36] <aftertaf> nice :)
[09:37] <Mamarok> hjb: then if he already knows how to use kmail he will find his way around, the apps are the same
[09:37] <aftertaf> surprising, in itself, but I stand happily corrected;
[09:37] <hjb> Mamarok: kmail hasn't changed? nice to know, as i'm not using it personally
[09:37] <Mamarok> aftertaf: if he uses Kmail then its kmail, regardless the deistribution
[09:38] <aftertaf> true...
[09:38] <Mamarok> hjb: well, the version is much newer, as Suse 8 ewas still running KDE 3.5 IIRC
[09:38] <aftertaf> just kde4 is different :)
[09:38] <aftertaf> there is bags of online help if he needs it;
[09:38] <Mamarok> and 9.04 uses KDE 4, but Kmail has gone better since, with a lot of bugfixes
[09:39] <hjb> aftertaf: but still better then convert him to gnome when he was used to kde3 before, i hope
[09:39] <aftertaf> yep
[09:39] <aftertaf> 4.1 was tough, now we're lokking goood
[09:40] <hjb> aftertaf: i'm personally not using kde at all, but right now, what i have seen so far looks nice :)
[09:40] <aftertaf> is kde 4.3 available anywhere, apart from project neon?
[09:40] <aftertaf> is IS...
[09:40] <aftertaf> it.
[09:40] <Mamarok> aftertaf: wait to see 4.3, it's gorgeous :)
[09:40] <Mamarok> aftertaf: yes, but only for experienced user, as there are dependency problems still with the packages
[09:40] <aftertaf> i have it from neon on my home PC...
[09:40] <aftertaf> --force-overwrite is my second nature :)
[09:41] <Mamarok> aftertaf: it's in the experimental repos
[09:41] <aftertaf> coooool
[09:41]  * aftertaf opens yakuake
[09:41] <Mamarok> you have to open it? Doesn't it run in the background for you? ;)
[09:42] <aftertaf> F12 :)
[09:42] <Mamarok> aftertaf: don't know if it's in 4.3 yet though...
[09:43] <aftertaf> deb http:// is ppa kubuntu experimental?
[09:43] <aftertaf> cant find 4.3 :(
[09:44] <aftertaf> what sources.list do i need to add?
[09:44] <Mamarok> aftertaf: wait, I'll get the repo for you
[09:45] <aftertaf> cheers :)
[09:45] <aftertaf> im new to quassel too, how do i turn off the in/out notifications?
[09:45] <aftertaf> didnt find earlier
[09:46] <aftertaf> found :)
[09:46] <Mamarok> aftertaf: found the repo?
[09:46] <aftertaf> no, the hide :)
[09:46] <hjb> what i find is that this system is damn slow when doing a lot of disk i/o
[09:46] <hjb> anything to tune that?
[09:46] <aftertaf> sata?
[09:47] <Mamarok> aftertaf: https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/experimental
[09:47] <Mamarok> aftertaf: and you need a new key for that one too
[09:48] <aftertaf> ok. i am missing about 10 keys alrady :)
[09:48] <Mamarok> aftertaf: you reall should install it though, just to be sure
[09:48] <hjb> aftertaf: sata? was tat for me?
[09:49] <Mamarok> hjb: did you install the -dbg packages too?
[09:49] <hjb> Mamarok: no
[09:49] <Mamarok> ok, one source eliminated
[09:49] <Mamarok> hjb: how much ram and swap?
[09:49] <aftertaf> :)
[09:50] <hjb> Mamarok: 1 GB ram, 1GB swap
[09:51] <hjb> Mem:   1003204k total,   984680k used,    18524k free,    17800k buffers
[09:51] <hjb> Swap:   996020k total,    15108k used,   980912k free,   475052k cached
[09:51] <Mamarok> hjb: double the swap space I would say
[09:52] <Mamarok> hjb: below 4 GB RAM the rule is to use double the swap than the RAM
[09:52] <hjb> Mamarok: never heard of that rule so far... but ok, i'll give it a try
[09:52] <Mamarok> hjb: services running in the background that use CPU?
[09:53] <hjb> Mamarok: no
[09:53] <Mamarok> hjb: might be tricky to do if swap is between / and /home
[09:54] <hjb> Mamarok: no problem, i can shrink /
[09:54] <hjb> there's space left
[09:55] <Mamarok> hjb: good
[09:55] <Mamarok> double swap than ram is a rule here since ages :)
[09:55] <Mamarok> I have 4 GB RAM and 8 GB swap, but swap is very rarely used
[09:55] <Mamarok> but before with 2 GB on the other PC it was
[09:58] <aftertaf> upgrading :)
[09:59] <aftertaf> hope the network manager wifi works better :)
[10:02] <semcis> just got one question if someone know tis message that a get every time am trying to install anything...E: Type "http://blueeyedcreature.net/ubuntu" is not nown on line 54 in the list of sources /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:02] <semcis> E: The list of sources coud not be shown
[10:03] <Mamarok> semcis: there's a typo in your sources list
[10:04] <Mamarok> or the serever you try to get packages from is down
[10:05] <semcis> ok....but....there is always a but, iam trying to get wine, that schoudent be any problem..? or not!..
[10:06] <aftertaf> semcis: what is exactly on line 54 ?
[10:06] <Assurbanipal> hi guys, i am on kubuntu 9.04 with kde 4,3. i am facing very high cpu loads (above 80%) when i transfer files. can anybody tell me why this happens?
[10:06] <semcis> (sorry for the eng...)
[10:06] <semcis> dont now. =/
[10:07] <Mamarok> semcis: wine is in the current repositories, you do not need an external one
[10:07] <semcis> ok
[10:07] <Mamarok> Assurbanipal: when did you install that?
[10:09] <Assurbanipal> when i installed what?
[10:09] <aftertaf> kde 4.3
[10:09] <aftertaf> jaunty comes with 4.2 (release 3)
[10:10] <Assurbanipal> when it was released for kubuntu, i added the repo mentioned in kubuntu.org
[10:10] <Viking667> Got a key-related problem I don't know how to solve. Every time I type "apt-get update" I get an error at the end, stating a key error:
[10:10] <Viking667> W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com jaunty-security Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[10:10] <Viking667> the last line suggests running "apt-get update" to fix the error.
[10:10] <aftertaf> semcis: you can open your sources.list with kate and press F11 to see the line numbers
[10:12] <semcis> ok..thanks!
[10:13] <Assurbanipal> Mamarok: any ideas?
[10:14] <Mamarok> Assurbanipal: you did an update since like 2 days ago?
[10:14] <Assurbanipal> yes, i updatedtoday too..
[10:15] <Assurbanipal> Mamarok: and just repeated update, but nothing new to install...
[10:15] <Mamarok> Assurbanipal: I just tried here and my CPU behaves normally
[10:15] <Mamarok> Assurbanipal: what does top tell you?
[10:15] <aftertaf> well that went well.... just trashed my desktop config :)
[10:17] <Assurbanipal> Mamarok: http://pastebin.com/m418ac65b
[10:19] <Viking667> oh, and there's a process going mad on my "top" - update-apt-xapi
[10:19] <Viking667> What's that?
[10:19] <Mamarok> Assurbanipal: you have a python running for some particular task? That eats CPU a lot too
[10:19] <Mamarok> and you have a ntfs share
[10:19] <aftertaf> i saw that too.... :)
[10:19] <aftertaf> shouldnt it be mounted with fuse ?
[10:20] <aftertaf> Viking667: auto updating apt job i think
[10:20] <Assurbanipal> i don't really get all you say...
[10:20] <Assurbanipal> :S
[10:20] <Viking667> aftertaf: gah. Figures.
[10:20] <aftertaf> in the Top command there is a job using python...
[10:20] <aftertaf> is this voluntary?
[10:21] <Mamarok> aftertaf: already asked that :)
[10:21] <aftertaf> yeah ;) . . . but trying to help the understandage
[10:21] <Mamarok> Viking667: you are currently updating?
[10:21] <Assurbanipal> i don;t know what is using python, i am running firefox,vlc,quassel now
[10:21] <Viking667> I guess the program thinks it is.
[10:21] <Mamarok> Assurbanipal: kill python then
[10:22] <Mamarok> Viking667: kill it if not
[10:22] <Viking667> it's uh, finished.
[10:22] <Viking667> now, back to this key problem.
[10:22] <Assurbanipal> ok,killed it
[10:22] <Viking667> it only seems to relate to the security-jaunty source.
[10:23] <Assurbanipal> now finished copying and system behaves normal..
[10:24] <Mamarok> Assurbanipal: I guess it's the ntfs location that causes it, I can't test, don't have one
[10:24] <Assurbanipal> the ntfs disk is connected through usb if that helps
[10:24] <Viking667> oh. Gawd. USB 2.0, I hope?
[10:26] <Assurbanipal> as far as i know... yes!
[10:29] <aseko> hi, is a seperate kubuntu chan in german available?
[10:30] <Assurbanipal> so, nothing i should do?
[10:31] <jussi01> !de | aseko
[10:31] <aseko> noone who can answer this question?
[10:31] <aseko> ah danke ubottu
[10:31] <jussi01> !bot | aseko
[10:32] <aseko> darf man denn hier auch deutsch sprechen oder is amtssprache hier EN?
[10:32] <Mamarok> aseko: there is #kubuntu-de
[10:33] <Don_Miguel> !de | aseko
[10:33] <Mamarok> Don_Miguel: I think one bot call is enough...
[10:33] <Mamarok> and the bot does not list the channel he is looking for anyway
[10:33]  * Mamarok goes to change that
[10:34] <aseko> all good things are three
[10:34] <aseko> !de | aseko
[10:34] <Don_Miguel> lol
[10:36] <Don_Miguel> Mamarok, sorry, I did not see the previous bot call for  de
[10:36] <Mamarok> Don_Miguel: ok
[10:36] <aftertaf> Assurbanipal: when you type 'mount' what type is set for your nfts drive?
[10:37] <Assurbanipal> /dev/sdd1 on /media/music type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096)
[10:41] <Assurbanipal> i tjhink this is what u r looking for,should i pastebin the whole mount results?
[10:43] <drbobb> hey this is crazy. I suddenly realised ALL of my virt. memory was in use (3G of ram + 2G of swap). I checked it out in htop, and firefox was using, like 3.5 G
[10:43] <drbobb> all that with 3 open tabs
[10:45] <drbobb> that was 5x as much as a virtualbox running xp
[10:45] <Viking667> drbobb: huh? That's so sick.
[10:45] <drbobb> I promptly shut down that beast, and saw the process remain active for like 10 more minutes after closing its window
[10:45] <Viking667>   454m 209m  33m S  1.3 18.4 151:12.88 firefox        and that's with eight tabs.
[10:46] <drbobb> thrashing the disk like crazy, until I lost patience and killed it
[10:46] <husayn_> when ever i type  sudo ifconfig eth0:1 10.1.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 up     it works.. then i restart my PC and then the configuration is gone
[10:46] <Mamarok> drbobb: probably flash going wild, a common problem with firefox
[10:47] <drbobb> Mamarok: but wouldn't that be reflected in a separate processs?
[10:47] <Viking667> bye all.
[10:47] <Mamarok> drbobb: no, as flash runs as a firefox plugin, it's listet under firefox
[10:47] <Mamarok> cu Viking667
[10:47] <drbobb> or does 64 bit firefox run flash in-process
[10:48] <aftertaf> Firefox does that more and more
[10:48] <aftertaf> v3.5 doesnt even close when you close it
[10:49] <drbobb> that sucks
[10:49] <aftertaf> husayn: have you changed network cards or anything since first install?
[10:49] <drbobb> well firefox was always a pain when you have homedirs on nfs
[10:49] <Mamarok> aftertaf: works fine so far in KDE 4.3
[10:49] <aftertaf> 3.1 yeah
[10:50] <Mamarok> ouch, home dir on nfs?...
[10:50] <aftertaf> shiretoko wont close correcty for me
[10:50] <flash> flash
[10:50] <drbobb> Mamarok: what's so weird about that
[10:50] <flash> ciao
[10:50] <Mamarok> flash: do you need help?
[10:51] <Mamarok> drbobb: about what?
[10:51] <aftertaf> nfs home i think
[10:51] <drbobb> Mamarok: here we have labs where both / and /home are on nfs, and the boxes boot on pxe
[10:52] <drbobb> used to be etherboot/netboot but that's kinda obsolete
[10:52] <Mamarok> drbobb: just seems strange to me to use a nfs if one can have etx3/4... but I never use Windows, so :)
[10:52] <aftertaf> husayn_: have you tried using the network manager widget  to set your IP ?or you set 2 IPs?
[10:53] <drbobb> Mamarok: well what if you need to provide the user with the same /home no matter which of 50 workstations he happens to be using
[10:53] <husayn_> no i havnt tried network manager
[10:53] <aftertaf> sunray and terminal server farms at work
[10:53] <husayn_> can we configure 2 IP in network manager in Kubuntu Hardy Heron
[10:53] <husayn_> i dont think so
[10:53] <drbobb> Mamarok: and I fail to see the relation between nfs and windows
[10:54] <Mamarok> drbobb: sry, my bad...
[10:54] <Mamarok> read ntfs....
[10:54] <aftertaf> google for alias ubuntu network ip, maybe? dont know...
[10:54] <drbobb> Mamarok: ah you saw a 't' where there was none ;)
[10:54] <aftertaf> lol
[10:54] <aftertaf> force of bad habit ;)
[10:55] <drbobb> aftertaf: yeah great idea, but sun gear is $$$$$$$
[10:55] <aftertaf> husayn_: and you type it in shell each time to set it, right, why dont you put it in your /etc/network/interfaces ?
[10:56] <aftertaf> drbobb: $$$$ :) and TS is crap. Keeps randomly crashing and doesnt swap users etc etc etc :)
[10:56] <husayn_> humm i will try for that
[10:56] <husayn_> one more thing.. how to check if my graphics card is installed
[10:56] <aftertaf> do you see whatwe type ?
[10:56] <aftertaf> :) joke
[10:56] <aftertaf> what type is it?
[10:57] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjj> howdy
[10:57] <aftertaf> it will be installed, you want to know if using correct (or proprietary) drivers ?
[10:57] <aftertaf> hello TenJ
[10:57] <drbobb> we're getting some beefed up NAS boxes to handle nfs now, used to be a low-end sun enterprise or something
[10:57] <aftertaf> nice
[10:57] <drbobb> one the size of a small fridge
[10:57] <jjjjjjjjjjjjjj> ahem
[10:57] <aftertaf> does it have a USB/Beer port ?
[10:58] <drbobb> worked ok for up to 50 clients or so
[10:58] <drbobb> nope it's just scuzzy all over the place
[10:58] <drbobb> i mean scsi
[10:59] <aftertaf> i am geek enough to understand :)
[11:00] <drbobb> well just launched firefox is 475M virt size for me
[11:00] <aftertaf> apt-get install fatfox :)
[11:01] <slow-motion> hu
[11:01] <SSJ_GZ> virt is almost completely meaningless.
[11:01] <drbobb> well maybe arora will get adblock support one of these days
[11:02] <drbobb> SSJ_GZ: it maybe meaningless but it sure climbs fast
[11:03] <aftertaf> ok. sun is out so time for a splash in the swimming pool. laters all:)
[11:03] <drbobb> I'd use konqueror exclusively if it were supported by gmail
[11:09] <drbobb> hey when I was using my 9.04 laptop this morning I had dolphin create a file with several '/' characters in its name. I thought that was not allowed?
[11:11] <drbobb> the funny part being that it was able to create and access this file, but copying it to another device failed. I'd say there's a bug here somewhere
[11:15] <muttman>  I have installed kde-desktop but I do not see any panel. is there any extra settings required to see panel?
[11:16] <drbobb> muttman: did you logout and log back in?
[11:16] <muttman> yes I did. Even I tried reboot
[11:17] <drbobb> or did you install it in text-mode environment, in gnome, whatever
[11:17] <drbobb> maybe you need to choose kde session at the login screen, cause your current default is probably different
[11:17] <muttman> from 8.10 I updated to 9.04. I was using gnome. Then I did apt-get install kde-desptop
[11:18] <muttman> drbobb: I am using kdm and I can see kgreeter
[11:19] <drbobb> well check out what session is set for you at the kdm screen, after typing your login but before logging in
[11:20] <drbobb> otherwise you might need to delete or rename your ~/.kde/
[11:21] <Mamarok> move it to .kde_old/ is sometimes the best choice if you are not running out of diskspace
[11:21] <drbobb> yeah right
[11:21] <Mamarok> so you can find your Mails and other stuff again
[11:21] <muttman> drbobb: I did moved ~/.kde DO I need to logout?
[11:22] <drbobb> well I wouldn't be surprised if that was needed
[11:23]  * drbobb often forgets that some folks still use pop3 for mail rather than imap or gmail
[11:23] <drbobb> which there is no excuse for these days, really
[11:24] <muttman> drbobb, yeah it worked now
[11:25] <muttman> I can see panels.. Thanks a lot
[11:26] <muttman> when I Run urxvt, default is ~/Documents
[11:26] <muttman> is n't this strange?
[11:27] <mazin> Hi
[11:27] <mazin> هلا
[11:27]  * drbobb has never used urxvt
[11:29] <drbobb> yakuake is pretty swell, though it does have a couple shortcomings
[11:30] <drbobb> btw config of sessions in konsole is currently still quite buggy
[11:30] <drbobb> the sessions I define tend to randomly vanish from the menu
[11:36] <drbobb> can anyone comment on dolphin vs. slashes in filenames?
[11:40] <Mamarok> drbobb: explain, I fear I don't get the question
[11:40] <drbobb> when I was using my 9.04 laptop this morning I had dolphin create a file with several '/' characters in its name. I thought that was not allowed?
[11:41] <drbobb> btw I was able to do that by drag'n'dropping a url from firefox
[11:41] <Mamarok> drbobb: I don't thin so, what happened is that you insterted spaces in a filename, and on the command line these can not be shown otherwise than with \ //
[11:41] <drbobb> the result was a .desktop file named http://blah.blah.etc/and/so/on.desktop
[11:42] <Mamarok> named http:// ?
[11:43] <Mamarok> that is a URL, not a filename
[11:43] <Mamarok> drbobb: why would you drag and drop an URL to dolphin?
[11:43] <Mamarok> it's not a browser
[11:44] <drbobb> Mamarok: instead of bookmarking the url
[11:44] <drbobb> and why not since it works
[11:45] <drbobb> ok just tried that in hardy, the name of the .desktop file is urlencoded
[11:45] <Mamarok> drbobb: strange idea... you actually dragged it to the desktop, nbot to dolphin, hnce the .desktop extension
[11:45] <drbobb> that is, slashes are replaced by %2f
[11:46] <drbobb> Mamarok: no, I dragged it to a folder open in dolphin
[11:46] <Mamarok> drbobb: because of your locale settings
[11:46] <drbobb> and this did exactly what I expected, created a launcher that takes me to that url if I click on it
[11:47] <Mamarok> drbobb: that's not how one stores URL addresses anyway, bookmakrs are there for exactly that task, and you can export bookmarks to a html or xl file
[11:47] <drbobb> Mamarok: I fail to see what locale has to do with this
[11:47] <drbobb> '/' is disallowed in filenames no matter what the locale
[11:47] <Mamarok> the slashes are replaced by %2f because of that
[11:48] <Mamarok> so would spaces be too
[11:48] <Mamarok> URL rules
[11:48] <drbobb> well the point is that they weren't
[11:48]  * Mamarok sighs
[11:48] <drbobb> uh spaces are totally okay in filenames, though not in urls
[11:48] <Mamarok> not in Dolphin, no, as it's not a broswer...
[11:49] <Mamarok> so it will not replace spaces, but a broswer does
[11:49] <drbobb> Mamarok: plain old ls(1) showed me slashes in the name of the .desktop file
[11:49] <Mamarok> drbobb: that's what I try to tell you...
[11:50] <drbobb> and the functionality that you can drag a url to a folder, desktop or any other, has been present in kde for as long as I can remember
[11:51] <drbobb> even the ancient kfm supported that
[11:53] <drbobb> and it's not so pointless: say you picked up some image files or whatever else form a website, d/l'ed them to a folder, and want to keep a reference to where you got them from together with that data
[11:53] <drbobb> s/form/from/
[11:53] <drbobb> a .desktop file pointing to the site's url serves that purpose perfectly
[11:57] <drbobb> anyway, what I see in hardy is what I'd expect: in dolphin's view of the folder, the urlencoding is decoded to show the user a "friendly" filename
[11:58] <drbobb> and attempting to rename or manually create a file with literal slashes in the filename fails
[11:58] <drbobb> well that's not what I saw on my jaunty machine
[12:01] <johnny_> hey
[12:01] <johnny_> anyone here?
[12:01] <Mamarok> !ask | johnny_
[12:16] <khaije1> liunian: usually ppl ask permission to PM in chan. whats up?
[12:19] <liunian> hello everyone
[12:20] <Gamarok__> howdy liunian
[12:22] <liunian> hahaha
[12:22] <liunian> howdy Gamarok
[12:24] <liunian> it is so fun , irc
[12:26] <Peace-> hi
[12:26] <liunian> hi
[12:26] <liunian> hi peace
[12:37] <jonathan__> hello!
[12:37] <jonathan__> I've a very big problem
[12:37] <Peace-> ..
[12:37] <jonathan__> my mouse isn't doing what i want
[12:37] <Peace-> well
[12:37] <jonathan__> it just happend during the last kde session...
[12:38] <jonathan__> first it worked allright, and then, it started dragging things without holding the left mouse buttons... i can control windows the one time, the other time i just can't do anything
[12:38] <jonathan__> window controls (close minimize, etc) are sometimes working, the other time not...
[12:39] <jonathan__> I'm lucky that i know that much keyboard shortcuts to open konversation and the kubuntu channels...
[12:39] <jonathan__> any idea what is messing my mouse up?
[12:39] <jonathan__> no my mouse curser changed to the text marker curse for any reason :D
[12:39] <jonathan__> i already restarted my pc twice
[12:41] <jonathan__> And my pc info: Kubuntu 9.04, latest stable KDE Version (4.2.3?), Intel Pentium 4 and compositing enabled
[12:41] <Peace-> tried to reconfigure xorg?
[12:42] <jonathan__> don't know what should happen, i didn't configured it before the error happend...
[12:42] <Peace-> jonathan__: nothing
[12:43] <jonathan__> ok wait
[12:43] <Peace-> jonathan__:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[12:43] <Peace-> that is the command
[12:43] <jonathan__> i know but thanks ;)
[12:43] <jonathan__> the mouse isn't even mentioned within my xorg.conf...
[12:44] <Peace-> i know i know
[12:44] <lovre> hi all
[12:44] <Peace-> hi
[12:44] <lovre> what is the keyboard shortcut for disabling/enabling desktop effects?
[12:44] <jonathan__> no
[12:44] <Peace-> systemsettins----->desktop -------->enable desktop effects
[12:44] <jonathan__> the file didn't change
[12:45] <Peace-> jonathan__: the file no...but...
[12:45] <lovre> Peace-: yes, i know that, but i knew a keyboard shortcut for this, its faster. Something like CTRL+F??
[12:45] <jonathan__> lovre: Alt, Schift and F12
[12:45] <lovre> jonathan__: yes, thats it. thank you!
[12:45] <Peace-> lovre: create your own shortcuts
[12:45] <jonathan__> no problem ;)
[12:45] <robin0800_> Jonathan the only way to populate the xorg conf is to run Xorg -configure from a recovery console
[12:45] <Peace-> lovre: systemsettins---->input action or somethingk like that
[12:46] <jonathan__> ok i will give it a try
[12:46] <lovre> Peace-: i see, thank you...
[12:46] <jonathan__> ok i think it won't help ;) so see you in a few minutes ;)
[13:07] <BluesKaj> Good Day
[13:11] <david_it> hi, quickaccess and folder view don't work, do you know what would be the problem....?
[13:33] <rmrfslash> How can I install the 32-bit libs on 64-bit kubuntu?
[13:33] <rmrfslash> (9.04)
[13:35] <superboy> it keeps saying su-java6-doc-jar.zip error
[13:35] <eagles0513875> rmrfslash: you need ia32-libs to run anything that is 32bit on 64bit
[13:36] <BluesKaj> rmrfslash, install w32codecs and in the package manager type ia32 , then install the libs that are listed...not all are required but it difficult to tell
[13:36] <Mamarok> !sound
[13:37] <x_link> Hi!
[13:37] <rmrfslash> eagles0513875: thanks
[13:37] <rmrfslash> BluesKaj: thanks
[13:37] <x_link> What's the command that shows me which Kubuntu-version I use?
[13:37] <eagles0513875> no problem rmrfslash
[13:37] <x_link> I always forget that command.
[13:38] <Pici> x_link: lsb_release -a
[13:39] <x_link> Pici: Ahh right
[13:39] <x_link> Thanks!
[13:41] <superboy> help
[13:42] <superboy> Press RETURN to try again, 'no' + RETURN to abort] no
[13:42] <superboy> Abort installation of J2SDK documentation
[13:42] <superboy> dpkg: error processing sun-java5-doc (--configure):
[13:42] <superboy>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[13:42] <superboy> Errors were encountered while processing:
[13:42] <superboy>  sun-java6-doc
[13:42] <superboy>  sun-java5-doc
[13:42] <superboy> Reading package lists... Done
[13:42] <superboy> Building dependency tree
[13:42] <superboy> Reading state information... Done
[13:42] <superboy> Reading extended state information
[13:42] <superboy> Initializing package states... Done
[13:42] <Unksi> !paste | superboy
[13:42] <Unksi> superboy: what was the message before "press return.."
[13:43] <eagles0513875> !patience | superboy
[13:44] <eagles0513875> superboy: if you want a quick way to install alot of the restricted stuff from flash to java and others i recommend installing kubuntu-restricted-extras
[13:46] <superboy> thanks bro
[13:53] <binbin> test
[13:53] <binbin> anyone online?
[13:53] <binbin> what is freenode?
[13:56] <Gamarok__> hey binbin
[13:57] <binbin> ?
[13:57] <binbin> anyone  here?
[13:58] <Gamarok__> i think so binbin
[13:58] <binbin> is this a talkshow?
[13:58] <Gamarok__> i don't think so
[13:58] <eagles0513875> binbin: if you have questions about freenode please ask in #freenode if you have kubuntu related questions and need support please ask and patienly wait
[13:59] <binbin> i see
[14:00] <binbin> this is a place provided for a group of peaple can communicate together
[14:00] <eagles0513875> !ot | binbin
[14:02] <binbin> bye bye ! guys
[14:03] <eagles0513875> bye binbin
[14:13] <SOBEAR> hi guys, any ideas why grub won't start? I'm having the "wrong allocation table" error
[14:22] <rmrfslash> Anyone know what libtypes.so is from?
[14:25] <SOBEAR> hi guys, any ideas why grub won't start? I'm having the "wrong allocation table" error and it happened after installing kubuntu :|
[14:28] <BluesKaj> !grub | SOBEAR
[14:29] <SOBEAR> I tried it
[14:32] <BluesKaj> oh SOBEAR , allocation table means you need to flag your kubuntu partition as 'boot'
[14:32] <SOBEAR> tried it too, I have a bad feeling my hdd just died
[14:33] <BluesKaj> tyhen you might need to edit grub if windows won't boot up either
[14:33] <SOBEAR> I already tried editting grub.list
[14:34] <SOBEAR> now I'm almost sure my hdd is dead
[14:34] <adhemar> alguien de Bolivia????
[14:34] <hjb> Hi. How can i decode the password that is stored in the kmailrc file?
[14:35] <hjb> the password for the pop3 account is in there, but when i look at he file with less
[14:35] <hjb> only carets are displayed
[14:35] <SOBEAR> BluesKaj I tried every solution I could find in google
[14:36] <BluesKaj> SOBEAR, what partition editor are you using ?
[14:36] <SOBEAR> I tried gparted, partition magic and the xp one
[14:37] <BluesKaj> gparted is the best IMO ,are you using the GParted live cd ?
[14:38] <SOBEAR> yeah
[14:39] <SOBEAR> I might sound noobish but I'm not
[14:39] <BluesKaj> SOBEAR, what do the partitions show ?
[14:39] <SOBEAR> the one I tried booting is labeled with b
[14:40] <BluesKaj> partition magic is a killer stay away from it , one wrong move an you end up with no OSss
[14:40] <SOBEAR> yeah I know, especially with ext4 and newer verions of ntfs
[14:41] <BluesKaj> what about the file systems, are they labelled ?
[14:41] <SOBEAR> yeah
[14:41] <SOBEAR> on the drive I'm trying to boot: 2x ntfs (right), 1x ext4 and swap
[14:42] <BluesKaj> ext4 didn't work for me , it was terrible
[14:42] <SOBEAR> it was working for me with no problems
[14:42] <BluesKaj> tried jaunty on it
[14:44] <SOBEAR> I already tried installing kubuntu on ext3 and still the same thing
[14:44] <BluesKaj> ok, what are the partitions listed as ?
[14:44] <Guest36620> hola
[14:44] <SOBEAR> what do you mean?
[14:44] <Guest36620> spansh chanel?
[14:44] <Guest36620> where?
[14:44] <BluesKaj> hd0 hda ?
[14:45] <BluesKaj> sda
[14:45] <BluesKaj> !es | Guest36620
[14:45] <SOBEAR> hd0 is the windows partition
[14:45] <indigo> hello?
[14:45] <indigo> yes it is
[14:45] <SOBEAR> hd1 ntfs data
[14:46] <SOBEAR> hd2 kubuntu
[14:46] <indigo> where i can join to spanish chanel?
[14:46] <SOBEAR> !es | indigo
[14:46] <SOBEAR> ;)
[14:46] <BluesKaj> gawd
[14:46] <indigo> i found ubuntu-ar ^^
[14:47] <SOBEAR> oh sorry, what's the command to check all the partitions?
[14:47] <BluesKaj> indigo, trolling , or can't you read spanish ?
[14:48] <indigo> nono i only just try to find a Spanish Chanel, i found it ^^ #ubuntu-ar
[14:48] <indigo> thx anyway
[14:48] <SOBEAR> #ubuntu-es
[14:48] <genii> indigo: #ubuntu-ar is the local argentina channel. The official spanish channel is still #ubuntu-es
[14:48] <BluesKaj> SOBEAR, df -h
[14:48] <indigo> yep
[14:48] <indigo> i know
[14:49] <indigo> i from argentina
[14:49] <indigo> ^^
[14:50] <toby_>  fire fox is allready running thats what i'm told but it is not
[14:51] <toby_>  fire fox is allready running thats what i'm told but it is not plz help
[14:52] <BluesKaj> SOBEAR, sorry it's sudo fdisk -l
[14:52] <SOBEAR> right now I'm moving all my data from one hdd to another and I'll try to make it the main one
[14:52] <toby_>  fire fox is allready running thats what i'm told but it is not plz help
[14:53] <genii> toby_: sudo killall firefox
[14:53] <toby_> no prosses killed
[14:55] <SOBEAR> oh great, I can't start Konsole from livecd
[14:57] <toby_> genii: no prosess killed
[14:57] <toby_> thats what i get
[14:57] <toby_> now what do i do?
[14:58] <genii> Hm. Exited before another suggestion could be offered.
[14:58] <SOBEAR> BluesKaj: got it
[14:59] <BluesKaj> ok SOBEAR , what have you got  ?
[15:00] <SOBEAR> can I pm you? don't wanna spam the channel
[15:00] <genii> toby_:  ps aux | grep firefox              Then if it lists anything (aside from the "grep firefox") then use the pid number after the username to kill it.
[15:00] <BluesKaj> SOBEAR, can you pastebin it ?
[15:00] <SOBEAR> 1 second
[15:04] <SOBEAR> BluesKaj: no can do :(
[15:04] <SOBEAR> I have no idea what's wrong
[15:07] <BluesKaj> !pm | SOBEAR,
[15:24] <cinex> can anyone give me a link that explains how to connect to a printer shared on an XP machine? (with XP being the server)
[15:24] <tsimpson> !print
[15:24] <tsimpson> see the last link there
[15:24] <BluesKaj> !cups
[15:25] <cinex> thanks tsimpson
[15:32] <tdn> Suddenly my keyboard does not work in Kubuntu 9.04. Nothing happens when I press keys. Mouse and applications work fine. How do I get my keyboard back?
[15:33] <tdn> I was doing some important stuff in Konsole. I cannot save my work without keyboard.
[15:33] <tdn> Please help.
[15:35] <tdn> Keyboard num lock light works.
[15:35] <tdn> I can SSH to the machine without keyboard.
[15:35] <tdn> From a different computer
[15:35] <tdn> (the one I use for IRC now)
[15:35] <desu> tdn: you might have sticky keys or something else switched on
[15:35] <desu> or delayed keys...
[15:36] <tdn> desu, how do I check?
[15:36] <desu> keep a key pressed for a while, it should insert that character...
[15:36] <tdn> desu, how can that be switched on without me knowing it?
[15:36] <tdn> desu, can I turn it off from ssh?
[15:36] <tdn> or with the mouse?
[15:36] <tdn> desu, Alt+Tab is not working. I cannot write en terminal, etc.
[15:36] <desu> system settings -> accessibility
[15:36] <desu> keep a key pressed for a while and try..
[15:37] <desu> tdn: turn off slow keys or anything else that might be on
[15:37] <tdn> desu, how do I turn slow keys off? I am in settings > Accessi....
[15:37] <tdn> Activatio gestures.
[15:38] <tdn> sticky keys and slow keys are unchecked.
[15:38] <desu> switch them on, apply, switch them off, apply.
[15:38] <tdn> WTF?! Now the keyboard works!
[15:38] <tdn> Thanks a lot!
[15:38] <tdn> I have NO idea why this happened.
[15:38] <desu> you're welcome
[15:38] <tdn> I have not enabled that stuff.
[15:38] <desu> you'd accidentally triggered an activcation gesture
[15:39] <tdn> But I have manually turned all that sh*t off when I have just installed.
[15:47] <mark___> after upgrading to kubuntu 9.04 KDE desktop freezes after i dont use it for a while . It also freezes in gnome
[15:47] <mark___> i have to reboot my system
[15:49] <mark___> other than that it works good but i dont know why it keeps freezing
[15:49] <kaddi> mark___ you have an intel graphics card?
[15:50] <mark___> no i have a nvidia geforce 8500
[15:51] <mark___> was working fine in intrepid 8.10
[15:52] <kaddi> mark___ ah sry... can't help you then. :( I had the same problems as you have but with an intel card.. there is a tutorial on how to improve this, but this is related to the intel card, so it probably doesn't apply to your case. :( Sry
[15:52] <mark___> it only does it when i leave the computer for a while
[15:52] <mark___> usually after a few hours of inactivity
[15:54] <mark___> compiz works fine and the graphics work great when playing games , google earth etc.
[15:55] <mark___> woke up this morning and turned the monitor on and everything was frozen again
[15:56] <mark___> oh well it might be time to do a fresh install
[15:56] <kaddi> mark___ i can only tell you what others told me: that great parts of ubuntu have been rewritten for jaunty and that this is the reason for the problems surfacing now
[15:57] <kaddi> and that things will get better with karmic :p
[15:57] <kuttans> hello everybody
[15:57] <kuttans> im new to ubuntu
[15:58] <mark___> i have a copy of kubuntu 9.04 coming from shippit so i think i will do a clean install from that and try again
[15:58] <kaddi> hello kuttans :)
[15:59] <kaddi> mark___ have a look at this: might help with your freezing problem: http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2009/05/18/temporary-fix-for-keyboard-not-working-error-in-ubuntu-904/
[15:59] <kaddi> it doesn't help solving the problem, but might avoid you the hard reset
[16:00] <mark___> ok i will have a look ....thanks kaddi
[16:01] <kaddi> what would be a nice application for rss-feeds? I've been using thunderbird till now, but would like something independent
[16:11] <genii> kaddi: My friend uses "planet" and he seems to like it fine. I can't give any review since I haven't used it kmyself
[16:11] <genii> *myself
[16:14] <juancarlos> hola
[16:14] <kaddi> !hi |juancarlos
[16:15] <kaddi> genii thanks, I'll take a look :)
[16:27] <kaddi> hi, how do i pipe the output from a program started with konsole in a file? kopete >> tmp.txt won't work. The messages are still shown in console
[16:30] <mot_> anyone know how to get pulseaudio working with flash/firefox?
[16:42] <tintintintin> hi all
[16:42] <bug> by all
[16:43] <tintintintin> can anybody help me
[16:43] <kaddi> !ask |tintintintin
[16:45] <tintintintin> i have an kubuntu jaunty instalation with LDAP and now im configuring the users profiles. How can i block the Desktop panels to the users when they connect?
[16:50] <JuJuBee> Is there an update notifier for kde 4.2 task bar?
[16:52] <robin0800> JuJuBee: you meen the thing with an "i"?
[16:53] <JuJuBee> I have no thing with an I until I start a copy process or something and it tells me what is happening.
[16:54] <robin0800> JuJuBee: Its in the beta 1
[16:55] <JuJuBee> ?
[16:56] <JuJuBee> So do I have to update via cli manually now?
[16:56] <Dragnslcr> Are you talking about software updates?
[16:56] <robin0800> JuJuBee: KDE 4.3 Beta 1 to be precise
[16:58] <robin0800> JuJuBee: http://www.kubuntu.org/node/81
[16:59] <cuozzo5> ciao
[17:00] <eagles0513875> !it | cuozzo5
[17:04] <JuJuBee> robin0800: K, thanks.  I can wait, just wanted to know if I was missing something...
[17:05] <Dragnslcr> JuJuBee- are you talking about software updates?
[17:05] <JuJuBee> yes
[17:05] <Dragnslcr> Yes, there's a notifier program
[17:05] <JuJuBee> I can sudo apt-get update and apt-get upgrade fine.
[17:05] <JuJuBee> Where is the notifier ?
[17:05] <Dragnslcr> You should see a gear icon in the system tray when updates are available
[17:06] <JuJuBee> Nope, I have never been notified of updates, yet am currently upgrading many packages at the moment...
[17:08] <Dragnslcr> Try running update-notifier-kde
[17:08] <Dragnslcr> Though it seems to be a bit broken for me at the moment
[17:10] <tintintintin>  i have an kubuntu jaunty instalation with LDAP and now im configuring the users profiles. How can i block the Desktop panels to the users when they connect?
[17:26] <Rovanion> Can anyone help me with kdenlive? It crashes when launched
[18:17] <draik> Hello everyone
[18:20] <Hoshi-no-Kaabii> .
[18:36] <edu> hello everybody, someone from brazil?
[18:37] <tsimpson> !br
[18:37] <Pici> They left
[18:38] <tsimpson> ah, so they did
[18:41] <dyolph> euh c'est où qu'on voit la liste des canals s'il-vous-plaît ?
[18:45] <dyolph> euh c'est où qu'on voit la liste des canals s'il-vous-plaît ? !!!!!!!
[18:45] <Pici> !fr | dyolph
[19:00] <Peace-> kmix(24902) Mixer::openIfValid: Mixer::open() detected master:  "PCM:0"
[19:00] <Peace-> anyone know what does it mean?
[19:00] <Peace-> kmix(24902) Mixer::openIfValid: Mixer::open() detected master:  "PCM:0"
[19:00] <Peace-> i have no audio ...
[19:01] <Peace-> i should restart to get it back
[19:01] <Peace-> -.-''
[19:03] <Phoenix_the_II> Meh, why doesnt the NetworkManager pick up the Wired connection i added to the list?
[19:03] <Phoenix_the_II> and still won't use the static configuration i added in the wired tab
[19:10] <mouka> Hi all
[19:11] <mouka> I am trying to install ogre 3d on my desktop
[19:11] <mouka> but when I get to compiling it from source, I get some errors
[19:11] <mouka> anybody can help?
[19:13] <mouka> here's what I am getting
[19:13] <mouka> http://pastebin.com/d1ff943c8
[19:17] <jdu> so, how do I set it up so that I can easily move windows from one desktop to another?  I would like to just be able to grab the title bar.  Also, is there a keyboard shortcut?
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> jdu: kde will do that, or you can right click the decorator -> move to desktop x
[19:22] <mouka> anybody can help with ogre 3d?
[19:23] <jdu> ok, I just didn't see a way to enable it in the preferences (or with a quick google).  Multiple clicks don't please me either.
[19:24] <jdu> generally I am rather keyboard oriented.
[19:27] <tsimpson> jdu: System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse > Global Keyboard Shortcuts > KWin, look for the "Window to Desktop #" actions
[19:30] <jdu> tsimpson: thanks!  I had looked in the window management sections etc. but not there.  ;/
[19:35] <Laeborg> !pptp
[19:35] <Shadoze> Hey all
[19:40] <ralph> how do i create links between different folders like i could in gnome? i want it to go to another partition whenever it says ~/.wine
[19:41] <jdu> you want .wine to be on a different partition?
[19:43] <ralph> jdu: no, i just want it how it used to be set up wqhere the .wine directory linked to another partition that had more free space than my /home at the time
[19:44] <jdu> ralph: It was probably done by adding a line to /etc/fstab  where ~/.wine would be a mount point for the other filesystem.
[19:45] <ralph> jdu: i did it via right-click menu in gnome, but the closest proxy in KDE i can't make heads or tails of
[19:47] <ralph> ok THAT time it worked it seems
[19:47] <jdu> ralph: I use gnome a lot, and i've never seen the option.  Interesting.  Well, If you have another partition to use, you can probably do it by copying .wine to the partition, adding it to /etc/fstab, and running: sudo mount -a
[19:48] <jdu> ralph: ok, good
[19:48] <jdu> do you remember where the option was in gnome?
[19:48] <ralph> jdu in a right-click menu
[19:49] <jdu> on the folder?
[19:49] <ralph> i just found how to use a similar option in KDE
[19:49] <ralph> yup
[20:04] <slow-motion> hi
[20:05] <hunter_> very good side http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Intrepid#Add_repository_keys
[20:38] <winterelf> hi.. need help with something... i installed kubuntu 9.04 and it looks bad.. i use yakuake and compiz but nothing seems to work very smooth.. even the graphics desktop  in the old kubuntu i had i diferent from this 9.04.. it looks like the 8.04 remix with widgets and stuff
[20:45] <StormWinged> hi guys... because i did a mistake by typing sudo hal-disable-polling --device /dev/cdrom0 , now brasero dont see my dvd unit, how i can enable that ?
[20:49] <LuisJa> ei guysi  have one problem using purplesurge java chat with firefox, the windows doesnt show, can someone help me?
[20:51] <LuisJa> ???
[20:53] <LuisJa> ei guysi  have one problem using purplesurge java chat with firefox, the windows doesnt show, can someone help me?
[20:59] <pulaski> Hi, does anyone know anything about the bluetooth device wizard
[21:00] <phh> pulaski: what about it ?
[21:00] <phh> (else than it does nearly nothing)
[21:01] <phh> pulaski: if you want to do anything with bluetooth, your only hope is blueman
[21:01] <phh> (or looking at bluetooth stack's source code.)
[21:02] <pulaski> I just installed ubuntu 9.04 and I have a bluetooth enabled T-Mobile G1 cellphone that I am trying to connect to my computer
[21:02] <phh> what do you mean with "to connect to"?
[21:02] <phh> file exchange ?
[21:02] <phh> internet connection ?
[21:02] <pulaski> yes
[21:02] <pulaski> some kind of interface
[21:02] <phh> yes for which one ? /o\
[21:02] <pulaski> file exchange
[21:03] <phh> pulaski: you have the "send file" option on each side of the connection
[21:03] <phh> (yes you have to do send file from the phone to send a file to the computer)
[21:04] <phh> if you want better option you need obex support and afaik it hasn't been ported to kde4 yet
[21:05] <tsukasa> hello what type of package i suspot to instll when an upgrade is available debian or hardy?
[21:06] <pulaski> phh: thanks for responding. I'm searching ubuntu forums and the web generally looking for anything to try to get my computer to recognize this phone device.  I have enabled bluetooth on my box using sudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth start but where do I go from there?
[21:07] <phh> pulaski: you do have the bluetooth icon in systray ?
[21:08] <pulaski> no, my device icon only displays my thumbdrive as connected
[21:08] <phh> not in device icon ...
[21:08] <phh> systray
[21:08] <phh> where you have the sound mixer
[21:09] <pulaski> phh: no there is no icon in my systray
[21:10] <phh> alt-f2, type kbluetooth4 and enter
[21:10] <phh> it should appear
[21:14] <pulaski> phh: thanks, that command tells me kbluetooth4 is already running
[21:15] <phh> damn, second case
[21:15] <phh> and i still have no idea what cause that
[21:15] <phh> pulaski: you show all systray icons ? (some may be hidden)
[21:15] <mintux> hi I can't make a video dvd with k3b (from mpg file ) I got http://codepad.org/5lh1kSsn and its http://i44.tinypic.com/29wtvp.png
[21:17] <pulaski> an the icon did briefly app appear in the as soon as I began to type bluethooh in the run command window but not in the systray.
[21:17] <phh> mintux: i think you have to prepare the tree with dvdauthor
[21:17] <phh> (or qdvdauthor for a gui)
[21:17] <phh> pulaski: try installing blueman anyway
[21:18] <pulaski> phh: Thanks I try that
[21:20] <mintux> phh I worked on mpg with dvdauthor ?
[21:20] <phh> mintux: that's a statement or a question ?
[21:20] <mintux> phh sorry it's question
[21:21] <mintux> should I work ... ?
[21:21] <phh> oh
[21:21] <phh> qdvdauthor is more like just a script taking mpg as open and dvd structure as output
[21:22] <mintux> phh I installed dvdauthor
[21:22] <mintux> it's hard to wirk with it?
[21:22] <mintux> **work
[21:22] <phh> no idea
[21:22] <phh> but it's a cli
[21:23] <phh> you'd better use qdvdauthor
[21:23] <kaddi> hi, somebody suggested smplayer to me and I would like to try it. Just started it for the first time, it told me my mplayer was too old to work properly. I just checked apt-cache policy says mplayer is up to date:2:1.0~rc2-0ubuntu19. smplayer is 0.6.6-0ubuntu1. Do I need some special experimental release to use smplayer? What could be the problem?
[21:24] <phh> kaddi: well, even if it's the last release, it's several months (meaning 2 years.) old
[21:25] <phh> so yes it's kind of outdated
[21:25] <kaddi> phh: ok, so how do I get the shiny new one? :D
[21:25] <phh> you have to find mplayer build snapshots
[21:25] <shinygerbil> :O
[21:25] <phh> not sure how you're supposed to do
[21:25] <phh> (i prefer rebuilding it by myself :D)
[21:25]  * shinygerbil sets reminder to stop being highlighted on the word "shiny"
[21:25]  * kaddi has never done that
[21:26] <phh> kaddi: i think of two options: use debian multimedia (hoping it works for ubuntu), or searching for a ppa
[21:26] <kaddi> is it easy? would it be a good program for a first try? is there a tutorial for that somewhere?
[21:26] <phh> kaddi: ergh.. no.
[21:26] <phh> you should really not begin with that one :p
[21:26] <kaddi> ok :p
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> phh: or compile
[21:27] <phh> ActionParsnip: building mplayer is far from being an easy task to do it correctly ...
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> phh: true but possible
[21:29] <bwv544> someone that use midi keyboard ?
[21:29] <kaddi> does this look like the ppa I would want for a newer version of mplayer: https://launchpad.net/~rvm/+archive/ppa ? (I'd say yes, but I'd like somebody to adhere, so I can blame him if things go wrong ;) )
[21:29] <phh> kaddi: maybe take a look at medibuntu
[21:30] <justin_> y is kubuntu so slow?
[21:31] <phh> kaddi: it seems good to me
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> justin_: kde uses more reources than other DEs
[21:31] <phh> but hum
[21:31] <phh> no jaunty release
[21:31] <justin_> so it needs more then windows vista?
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> justin_: no way, way less
[21:32] <justin_> thats odd cause I got rid of vista for kubuntu and vista ran smooth but kubuntu is really choppy
[21:32] <phh> kaddi: well, medibuntu is outdated, rvm's ppa isn't for jaunty
[21:32] <phh> i guess you're gonna build it yourself
[21:32] <phh> (if you really need it)
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> justin_: windows has greater driver support
[21:33] <kaddi> phh: yes noticed that too.. but they do offer jaunty jackalope in the select menu for the display of the sources.list
[21:33] <Tm_T> ActionParsnip: ...in some cases
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> justin_: you will need to install and configure video drivers for your display
[21:33] <phh> kaddi: i guess there is just no package in jaunty repo then
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> Tm_T: i'd say in most
[21:33] <justin_> where do I find those?
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> justin_: lspci | grep -i vga    will tell you what you have, you can websearch from there
[21:50] <ubunturos> I guess, this is a very good article: http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reports/6757/1/
[21:54] <astrobear> is there an equivalent of the ubuntu remix with kde?
[21:54] <iivv_> how do i mount iso's in kubuntu?
[21:54] <astrobear> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Netbook+Plasma+Theme?content=92433 is nice  but i'm not sure if it's what i'm looking for
[21:55] <tsimpson> !iso | iivv_
[21:56] <ghouly> hi, a program (ktorrent) crashes on me (sigsegv 11), in the "KDE Crash Handler" dialog when i click details, it says "unable to create a valid backtrace",  "This is probably because your packages are built in a way which prevents creation of proper backtraces"  , is there anything i can do about that or is it a general problem ?
[21:58] <kbntuchris> ghouly: Does it only crash when you type in a url, or is it any command?
[21:58] <tsimpson> ghouly: you don't have the debugging packages installed
[21:58] <ghouly> it crashes everytime when change max download speed via tray icon, there isn't a bugreport for that yet so i wanted to try an make one
[21:59] <ghouly> what debug packages do i need ? ktorrent ones or generic ?
[21:59] <tsimpson> you'll want ktorrent-dbg and probably kdebase-runtime-dbg
[21:59] <LuisJa> i got a huge problem: i have a ps3, i like to play music with it, all my other music than i downloaded its from vista and works well, but 3 than i downloaded wtih linux, the ps3 says: not compatible, and its mp3, WTH???? i need help
[21:59] <tsimpson> (rather a large download in total)
[21:59] <ghouly> ok, thanks, i'll try that =)
[22:00] <ghouly> yeah, but i guess this wasn't the last crash i've seen in kde4, and since they made such a nice crash-handler dialog it might be worth it
[22:00] <Phibes> how to use a .sh?
[22:00] <LuisJa> i need help pls
[22:00] <Phibes> wine wants to open it, and thats wrong
[22:00] <tsimpson> ghouly: the crash handler was in KDE3 as well
[22:00] <ghouly> they should add some info there about downloading the debug packages for the program though *g*
[22:01] <ghouly> hmm, it was kinda different i think,  just a bomb dialog or something, i don't remember exactly
[22:01] <ghouly> this stacktrace thing seems to be a really good addition if it works
[22:01] <kbntuchris> Anyone got experience with compcache .53
[22:01] <tsimpson> KDE cant know if it's a distro package or compiled yourself, it can no know how to install packages or if your distro provides packages
[22:02] <ghouly> a simple "try installing debug packages for the program" might help %)
[22:02] <LuisJa> i got a huge problem: i have a ps3, i like to play music with it, all my other music than i downloaded its from vista and works well, but 3 than i downloaded wtih linux, the ps3 says: not compatible, and its mp3, WTH???? i need help
[22:03] <tsimpson> ghouly: it cant know that it's a package, you may have compiled it yourself
[22:03] <tsimpson> LuisJa: stop repeating that, if someone knows they'll reply
[22:03] <iivv_> tsimpson: when i use the mount command to mount an iso to cdrom0, i get a 'specify filesystem type' error
[22:04] <iivv_> i guess i should put in iso9660, but where
[22:04] <tsimpson> iivv_: try with "-t iso9660"
[22:04] <kbntuchris> iivv_: Don't forget -o loop
[22:05] <iivv_> i still get an error, although it looks like it gave it a try: wrong fs type, bad superblock... etc
[22:06] <kbntuchris> iivv_: Have you verified the ISO isn't corrupt?
[22:06] <tsimpson> iivv_: what is the output of "file <filename>" ? (replacing <filename> with the file you want to mount)
[22:06] <iivv_> i've used it on windows before
[22:07] <iivv_> tsimpson: Deus Ex - GOTY Edition.iso: data
[22:07] <tsimpson> then it's not an ISO
[22:07] <tsimpson> it's either corrupt or some proprietary format
[22:10] <iivv_> tsimpson: really??? ... how am i going to install deus ex...
[22:10] <iivv_> kbntuchris: how would i go about verifying the iso
[22:10] <kbntuchris> iivv_: Do you still have access to a windows box?
[22:10] <iivv_> i dual boot
[22:11] <kbntuchris> iivv_: You might try mounting it in windows, and ripping it to an iso...
[22:11] <iivv_> ok
[22:12] <kbntuchris> iivv_: I've run into .iso files that were actually .nrg for example, and somewhere along the line got renamed. Nero will notice it's not what it says and open it w/o issue..I wouldn't be suprised if Daemon Tools operates the same way...
[22:18] <Phibes> how to check if your iso is or is not iso9660
[22:19] <tsimpson> Phibes: use the "file" command, that'll print what type of data the file contains
[22:19] <Phibes> k, thx
[22:19] <Phibes> rld-sim3.iso: data
[22:19] <Phibes> lol
[22:20] <ralph> anybody know of a way to know which directories from /home are unused by any programs? i used to run KDE over normal ubuntu (gnome) so i don't know how many files are left over for no reason
[22:20] <tsimpson> that's an unknown type, "data"
[22:20] <Phibes> so it isnt 9660... damn
[22:20] <ralph> now i run pure KDE but my /home was in a seperate directory
[22:21] <Phibes> so, am i correct in thinking terminal cant mount it?
[22:21] <ralph> seperate partition*
[22:22] <kbntuchris> ralph: You could probably do something with last accessed time to determine what hasn't been touched since you switched to kde
[22:23] <kbntuchris> ralph: I couldn't tell you an efficient way of doing it though : /
[22:26] <kbntuchris> ralph: Maybe someone could help you running an ls through grep and grab dates before a certain date. If you mount your file system with noatime tho, then you'll need another route.
[22:26] <ralph> dolphin only has the ambiguous option to sort by date
[22:26] <ralph> who knows if that is date created or date accessed
[22:26] <eypherath> Hi...Does someone have a clue, why my sound doesn't work, even though system-noises are played perfectly, but anything else is just noisily silent?
[22:28] <kbntuchris> ralph: Yeh, you need to use ls -u in a konsole, or stat -c %x (filename) would do it per file...
[22:30] <Phibes> eypherath, are the system noises coming from your boxes or your motherboard?
[22:30] <kbntuchris> ralph: you might need ls -ul to get dates up
[22:31] <eypherath> @Phibes: With noises I mean this ear piercing music playing at startup and shutdown...
[22:31] <kbntuchris> ralph: you might need ls -Rul to get dates up will do it recursive, but I expect the output's gonna be a bit much to go through manually...
[22:31] <eypherath> And it's coming from my boxes...
[22:31] <Phibes> oh, dont have a clue then :P
[22:31] <Phibes> good luck, im off
[22:31] <eypherath> Thanks...
[22:31] <ilor> eypherath: had a similar issue, amarok and system sounds worked, movie players had no sound
[22:33] <ilor> eypherath: twiddling with preferences-sound somehow fixed the issue
[22:33] <kbntuchris> Does anyone know if it matters where under my /lib/modules/my+kernel+ver+/ I dump modules, and if there's anything besides depmod -A I need to do after I drop it in?
[22:34] <ralph> kbntuchris: is this output sorted in anyway?
[22:34] <kbntuchris> ralph: With just the options I gave you, no..
[22:35] <kbntuchris> ralph I know grep can sort/manipulate ls output and could be used to dump only the files not accessed since a certain date, but grep is something that I always need help to use myself : P Me and grep get into fights.
[22:35] <kbntuchris> which is sad. it's amazingly useful.
[22:36] <ralph> anybody know how to use grep to submit a list of every director/file not used since a certain date?
[22:36] <eypherath> @ilor I am trying to run amarok right now...Somehow doesn't want to play any files at all...
[22:38] <eypherath> @ilor What exactly did you do to fix it? I am quite new to Kubuntu and KDE4...
[22:38] <kbntuchris> ralph: Actually...Find is probably better. I just remembered it...
[22:38] <kbntuchris> ralph: 'man find' should shed some light.
[22:42] <ilor> eypherath: I *think* I set it all to use pulseaudio and only then the test sound worked
[22:43] <ralph> kbntuchris: i used find -atime +10 > tendayoldfiles.txt
[22:44] <kbntuchris> ralph: That should work =D
[22:45] <kbntuchris> but keep in mind, a program might not touch EVERY file, but many usually have their own directory so if something in a dir tree was touched recently, the whole dir might belong to a program you still use.
[22:45] <eypherath> @ ilor : I got it all set to use my soundcard and the test sound works...But the sound in video and flash still doesn't work...If amarok works, I do not know yet...Still trying to fix it..
[22:45] <kbntuchris> ralph: basically, back up your $home and hang on to it for a few days
[22:45] <iwo> hey, is the windows key still not usable as both a modifer _and_ regular key in kde4?
[22:45] <iwo> modifier
[22:47] <iwo> Just read this from the kde3 docs:
[22:47] <iwo> "This feature was removed for reasons of usability and accessibility, as well as keeping the code clean..."
[22:47] <iwo> wtf?!
[22:47] <ign0ramus> iwo, by default, Win+(n) is used by Amarok
[22:47] <ign0ramus> iwo, in KDE4
[22:47] <eypherath> @ ilor : Well...sound does not play, when I run the files with vlc...
[22:47] <iwo> ign0ramus: not sure I understand what you mean. by default the win key is a modifier key (Meta)...
[22:48] <ign0ramus> iwo, oh, i thought you were asking if it could used as a modifier OR regular key
[22:48] <iwo> to get the win key to open the kde menu, i'd have remap to e.g. F13 (and the Win key will no longer be a modifier key)
[22:48] <ign0ramus> mutually exclusive
[22:49] <ign0ramus> iwo, it works as "meta+" , but now as a regular key, at least in my experience
[22:49] <ign0ramus> *but not
[22:49] <kbntuchris> iwo: One or the other, but not both at the same time...
[22:49] <iwo> from the docs:
[22:49] <iwo> "Previous versions of KDE provided a trick to allow you to use the Windows® key both as a modifier (so you could have shortcuts like Win+R), and as a regular key (so that pressing Win on its own could open the K menu)."
[22:49] <kbntuchris> iwo: I feel your pain
[22:50] <iwo> why on earth was this feature removed, when practically every consumer keyboard on the planet now has this key?!
[22:50] <kbntuchris> iwo: I imagine it could be patched back in..Maybe someone's got a patch out..
[22:50] <iwo> 'to keep the code clean' is not a valid reason
[22:51] <iwo> good point kbntuchris, will keep searching
[22:51] <ralph> i dunno it makes sense to keep the windows key as a modifier-only key, unusual functionality can cause probelms i guess
[22:52] <kbntuchris> iwo: Seems like something someone would miss enough to revert it.
[22:53] <kbntuchris> As far as reasons to take it out, I would expect a better explanation than clean code as well. I never had buggy kde problems with it as both. Maybe it has something to do with VM compatibility? That's something I would expect to be distro specific though. Who knows what ye gods are thinking...
[22:53] <ign0ramus> iwo, from an older post "you can change the signal sent by the window key from "mod4" to super_L and super_R (left and right windows keys)."
[22:53] <ign0ramus> iwo, not sure if that still applies
[22:55] <iwo> ign0ramus: yeah, i don't quite understand that either (and other blogs that say similar things) - who has two windows keys?!
[22:55] <iwo> (or maybe only UK keyboards have 1?)
[22:55] <kbntuchris> iwo: I've got 2
[22:55] <ign0ramus> iwo, my American laptops only have 1
[22:56] <kbntuchris> iwo: I've also got some key with a menu on it.
[22:56] <ign0ramus> kbntuchris, that key is actually functional, though
[22:56] <ralph> am i missing something? or does Kubuntu not have a default app for opening .deb?
[22:56] <kbntuchris> seems to be a right click
[22:56] <ign0ramus> yup, exactly
[22:56] <kbntuchris> ralph: It should use kpackagekit.
[22:57] <ign0ramus> ralph, right click and open with kpackagkit. have the system remember the setting
[22:57] <iwo> ah i see, so super_L is the windows key, super_R is the 'context' key (right-click
[22:57] <iwo> )
[22:57] <ign0ramus> right
[22:57] <ign0ramus> ...or left, i suppose ;)
[22:58] <iwo> :D
[22:58] <ign0ramus> iwo, no, wait.. actually i think super_R is Right Windows Key and super_L is Left Windows Key
[22:58] <ign0ramus> iwo, at least, that
[22:58] <ign0ramus> 's what i took from it
[22:58] <iwo> does anyone really have a right windows key?
[22:59] <ign0ramus> iwo, i sounded like kbntuchris does
[22:59] <tsimpson> iwo: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/219412
[22:59] <iwo> funny thing is, alt-f1 doesn't work for me for some reason, on a fresh kubuntu 9.04
[23:02] <ign0ramus> iwo, afaik, it does not work after Intrepid
[23:02] <eypherath> @ ilor: Well...Amarok works...At least playing online streams...^^ But playing sound files with vlc, playing video files and opening flash files results in deep, deep silence...
[23:03] <ign0ramus> iwo, apparently, having a key that works as a meta key *and* a trigger for a particular action causes problems... http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154564#c7
[23:03] <iwo> so how the **** do you get the menu to appear now >:@
[23:03] <iwo> ?!
[23:03] <ilor> eypherath: can't really help you more since I don't understand the underlying issue, and git it fixed for me pretty much by chance
[23:04] <iwo> if i do switch the key to be a regular key (F13), i'm not sure how to actually map that to show the kde menu...
[23:04] <iwo> when i enter the keyboard shortcuts screen, there's no kde menu or kicker option, or anything else that will open the menu
[23:05] <iwo> does anyone know what it's called?
[23:05] <phh> iwo: right click on the icon of the menu, settings, and there shortcut
[23:05] <ign0ramus> iwo, see here: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3095141.msg134453#msg134453
[23:06] <iwo> yeah, been reading that post - i'm not sure the same applies to kde4 tho...
[23:07] <iwo> i don't have a Regional & Accessibility menu option
[23:07] <ign0ramus> iwo, you should in System Settings > Advanced
[23:07] <ign0ramus> iwo, no wait, it's in General.  sorry
[23:08] <ign0ramus> iwo, if you type in "keyboard", it should be one of the options
[23:08] <tsimpson> it's under Keyboard & Mouse now
[23:09] <iwo> yeah, i have no Popup Launch Menu in that list though :-\
[23:09] <tsimpson> under "Global Keyboard Shortcuts" and the "Plasma Workspace" component
[23:09] <ign0ramus> tsimpson, it may be because i'm running kde 4.2.3, but there is a separate entry in System Settings for Regional & Accessibility
[23:09] <phh> iwo: the way i told you works easier ...
[23:09] <iwo> ah, thanks tsimpson
[23:10] <tsimpson> ign0ramus: shouldn't that be "Regional & Language" ?
[23:10] <phh> (it's easier and logicer btw)
[23:10] <iwo> ah yes, cheers phh, sorry, missed that one in the chat window :)
[23:10] <ign0ramus> tsimpson, yes, that's what i meant, I just c/p'd the comment above ;)
[23:11] <tsimpson> ign0ramus: keyboard shortcuts aren't under that any more, it's in "Keyboard & Mouse" (where you'd expect it)
[23:12] <phh> tsimpson: well, for the menu, you'll expect it in the menu settings... and it is there.
[23:12] <iwo> okay... and for some reason it doesn't work :'(
[23:12] <ign0ramus> tsimpson, oh, i know... but iwo was saying he couldn't find the Regional & Language menu...
[23:12] <phh> iwo: oh
[23:13] <iwo> opened the dialog, set the shortcut key by pressing windows key (F13 pops up in the box), press ok...
[23:13] <iwo> and nothing happens when i press the key :'(
[23:13] <ign0ramus> iwo, you still have to remap the input of the Windows key
[23:13] <iwo> needs a restart of plasma maybe?
[23:13] <phh> iwo: werid, for me it works
[23:14] <phh> (well i use kde 4.3, but iirc it was the same for 4.2)
[23:14] <iwo> ign0ramus: yeah, I remapped to F13 using xmodmap
[23:14] <iwo> now when i press the key, 'F13' appears in the shortcut dialog (so it must be mapped right)
[23:14] <ign0ramus> iwo, and still nothing?
[23:15] <phh> iwo: mmm maybe not
[23:15] <phh> it can still be a modifier
[23:15] <phh> (i looked at the xmodmap man and it seems weird)
[23:16] <iwo> ...just trying some other keys to see if any key combo works
[23:19] <iwo> yeah, other key combos work, but not F13
[23:20] <phh> iwo: can you paste xmodmap results?
[23:23] <iwo> pasted here: http://pastebin.com/d3c12426b
[23:23] <iwo> i used xev to get the keycode
[23:24] <phh> iwo: no, i mean the answer of the xmodmap command
[23:25] <iwo> it's silent, when I run with -verbose, i get the output at that url
[23:25] <phh> ?!?
[23:25] <phh> you should get something like:
[23:25] <phh> shift       Shift_L (0x32),  Shift_R (0x3e)
[23:25] <phh> lock        Caps_Lock (0x42)
[23:25] <phh> control     Control_L (0x25),  Control_R (0x69)
[23:25] <iwo> sorry, i thought you meant the output that i get when mapping the key :D
[23:26] <iwo> http://pastebin.com/d56284125
[23:27] <phh> iwo: and xmodmap -pk |grep 133
[23:28] <iwo>    133         0xffca (F13)
[23:28] <phh> damned
[23:29] <phh> iwo: ok you can try restarting plasma.
[23:29] <iwo> :)
[23:30] <phh> or you can use alt-f1 shortcut as everyone windows-less does.
[23:30] <ign0ramus> phh, alt+f1 never worked for me on Jaunty
[23:31] <phh> ign0ramus: you can set the shortcut how you want ...
[23:31] <iwo> yeah, i guess so. unfortunately (like most people), i don't have the luxury of using a kde desktop wherever i go (which is why i'd like to be able to map keys to do what the rest of the known world does)...
[23:31] <phh> just works fine here if setted
[23:31] <ign0ramus> phh, what command do you have it bound to?
[23:31] <iwo> but that's a kde problem :)
[23:32] <phh> ign0ramus: right click on the menu plasmoid, settings, shortcut
[23:33] <ign0ramus> phh, maybe i'm missing something... right-click on the kmenu icon on the panel?
[23:33] <phh> yep
[23:33] <ign0ramus> phh, "application launcher menu settings"?
[23:33] <phh> yes
[23:34] <ign0ramus> phh, ahh... i see now
[23:34] <phh> :-)
[23:34] <ign0ramus> phh, as xmodmap is dependent on X, i'm going to restart X and see if my changes have taken effect
[23:34] <draik> ign0ramus: YO
[23:34] <ign0ramus> draik, brb dude
[23:35] <ign0ramus> draik, sup?
[23:36] <ign0ramus> phh, no go... it sets back to "meta+" :(
[23:37] <draik> ign0ramus: Nothing much. Trying to write my own shell script but I can't get it to execute anything based on user input.
[23:37] <phh> yep, i never succeded using this damn key for anything else than meta
[23:37] <ign0ramus> phh, in fact, my keyboard was frozen upon restarting of X... I had to use the alt+f7 trick to get keyboard back
[23:37] <ign0ramus> draik, a script to do what?
[23:38] <draik> ign0ramus: Many things. It's more of a shortcut to update/upgrade, backups, du, df, etc.
[23:39] <ign0ramus> draik, using aliases or full commands?
[23:39] <draik> ign0ramus: Full commands.
[23:39] <iwo> if anyone wants to help get this fixed, you could vote here:
[23:39] <iwo> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154564
[23:39] <ign0ramus> draik, ok... i actually stole many of your aliases (sorry), but I found that aliases don't register as the actual commands for many things
[23:40] <iwo> just signup (only need an email, no other details), then log in and click vote (and assign 20 votes :))
[23:40] <draik> My aliases are for all to own/share, so don't apologize.
[23:40] <ign0ramus> draik, i use 'dg' on a semi-hourly basis ;)
[23:40] <ign0ramus> draik, mostly for the xorg-edgers PPA... they update frequently
[23:40] <draik> I have changed it to 'up' on this server, netbook and 2 other computers.
[23:41] <ign0ramus> draik, for update && upgrade?
[23:41] <draik> ign0ramus: Why not create the 'dg' as a cron job?
[23:41] <draik> ign0ramus: Yes. for update && upgrade
[23:41] <ign0ramus> draik, never even thought of it :D
[23:42] <draik> ign0ramus: Good alcohol, huh?
[23:42] <ign0ramus> draik, i would assume a terminal would have to be open for the cron job to work, eh?
[23:42] <draik> ign0ramus: Nope.
[23:42] <ign0ramus> draik, the Glenlivet always treats me well :)
[23:47] <draik> ign0ramus: So yeah. I've been beating myself senseless trying to figure out what I'm doing wrong.
[23:48] <ign0ramus> draik, feel like pasting the script?
[23:50] <draik> ign0ramus: Sure thing. How again?
[23:50] <draik> I'm on the server, not GUI
[23:50] <iwo> does anyone know how i can check what kde version i'm using? or does anyone already know what the version currently included in kubuntu 9.04 is?
[23:51] <ign0ramus> draik, pastebinit?
[23:51] <draik> iwo: KDE4, but you can always check by going to Konqueror > Help > About
[23:51] <draik> ign0ramus: Sorry. I meant to ask for the syntax of pastebinit
[23:51] <draik> BTW, do you have my
[23:52] <ign0ramus> draik, i've never actually used it... :/
[23:52] <draik> BTW, do you have my 'sagi' alias?
[23:52] <ign0ramus> draik, that's a new one
[23:52] <draik> sagi - Sudo Apt-Get Install
[23:53] <draik> Lowercase, of course, but just showing my reasoning
[23:54] <ign0ramus> draik, got it, i just aliased it to 'get'
[23:54] <ign0ramus> draik, syntax: pastebinit -i /etc/X11/xorg.conf http://rafb.net
[23:54] <draik> ign0ramus: I have the link, gimme a sec to go from TTY1 to TTY2
[23:55] <ign0ramus> draik, k
[23:55] <draik> http://pastebin.com/f60ab57b0
[23:56] <ign0ramus> draik, can you even get the first echo question to print?
[23:56] <draik> All of that works
[23:56] <ign0ramus> draik, well then what?
[23:57] <draik> I get to the input
[23:57] <draik> Then at the prompt, pfft
[23:57] <draik> Enter whatever you want and it terminates
[23:57] <ign0ramus> hmm....
[23:57] <draik> ign0ramus: Sorry. I just ran it again. This latest revision gives errors
[23:58] <draik> All of the echos work, but I get errors about the commands
[23:58] <draik> compile and see for yourself
[23:58] <ign0ramus> draik, i was going to ask about that...
[23:58] <ign0ramus> draik, instead of labeling, if you just give the direct command, does it make a difference?
[23:58] <draik> g++ -o file.sh MyScript
[23:58] <ign0ramus> draik, for testing purposes, of course
[23:59] <draik> ign0ramus: I don't want it to run, I want it to assign it to the letter of my choice and then run when told to do so.
[23:59] <ign0ramus> draik, i know, but i'm wondering if you're labeling is causing the fault
[23:59] <ign0ramus> *your labeling