[00:01] Is there a offical Kstars chan? [00:25] Does anyone know why Konsole wouldnt work? I can open it but it does not give me the "username@system:~$" string and will not allow me to type [00:26] what program can I use to record a stream? [00:27] what repos do I need Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "acroread" [00:28] GinoMan http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-335642.html === german is now known as Guest20974 [00:30] <_myrtille_> kubu what do you want to do? if you just want to open pdf-files try okular. it's the default pdf-reader in kde [00:30] I like adobe [00:31] adobe + kubuntu = bad times [00:32] what's an alternate KDE4 compatable window manager other than Kwin and Openbox? [00:32] thanks InfernoLinux [00:32] your welcome GinoMan === Cueball is now known as Cueball|2 [00:34] I really wish I could figure out whats wrong with konsole. [00:34] Anyone have ideas on where to start? [00:35] kubu open your package manager (k-menu->system->package manager (adept)) [00:35] ? [00:35] kubu: go to view, select software sources, select edit software sources, select third party and check the following two lines: [00:36] <_zero> so, nobody knows anything about system tray not showing correct icons? [00:36] sry, the following line: http://archive canonical.com/ubuntu jaunty partner [00:36] _zero did you try and install kde 4.3? [00:37] (not suggesting you should, but wondering if that's your issue) [00:37] <_zero> Barridus: No, no, 4.2 here [00:37] kubu: close that window and press "fetch current package lists" afterwards you should be able to find adobe reader by searching for acroread [00:38] _zero: hum, i got that problem earlier, but it just fixed by itself [00:38] _zero: you've made all updates ? [00:38] <_zero> phh: ah, well... mine isn't :) [00:38] <_zero> phh: not sure... I understand that 4.2.3 is still on ppa, right? [00:40] kaddi don't see acroread [00:41] kabu http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/06/23/install-adobe-acrobat-reader-812-on-ubuntu-804/ [00:41] sorry, Kubu [00:42] Thanks InfernoLinux [00:43] welcome kubu [00:51] What is the command to start "System Settings" from terminal? [00:53] got it [00:59] ok, so the "show desktop" widget only works with kwin? [00:59] Alright it's been over a year since KDE 4, when is installing a new plasmoid (IE gmail plasmoid) from Get Hot New Stuff going to actually work? [01:00] some install ok, right? or are all b0rk3d [01:01] some install fine [01:06] hello! i am running kubuntu 9.10 (karmic) and can't seem to get wireless working under the management of kde-network-manager [01:06] are there any known issues? [01:06] ryann: what do you mean you cant get it working? [01:07] what happens? [01:07] well, the interface is detected [01:07] and is working with the b43 drivers [01:07] i have verified this with airodump [01:08] also, kde-network-manager lists aps [01:08] upon selecting any, i am prompted to authenticate [01:08] yet it never properly authenticates [01:08] just loops asking me for the wpa-psk [01:08] is there actually wpa? [01:08] yes [01:09] mine here is wpa-psk [01:09] using AES [01:09] it had worked just prior to upgrading the distribution [01:10] ah [01:10] i had a similar issue in ubuntus manager.. [01:10] but there was no wep. [01:10] i've even displaced my .kde directory and tried a new session [01:10] hoping it was perhaps a config or kwallet issue [01:11] wow, I'd just like to complain about the installer installing grub on a hard drive other than the one I installed on [01:11] I knew I should have unplugged my other drives first, but I really didn't think it would do something like that. lame, lame, lame [01:12] occupant, the kubuntu install wrote grub to the mbr of more than one physical disk? [01:12] occupant: before you decided to complain are you sure that you didnt select something wrong by accident? [01:12] occupant: have you filed a bug report? [01:14] installed on the mbr of my hackintosh drive, no grub on the ubuntu drive. I admittedly did easy settings and just specified drive [01:14] should I have done 'specify partitions' to set what happens with grub/mbr? [01:15] i would have just to check and see [01:15] but thats because i am overly cautious [01:17] Hi all! [01:19] also.. [01:19] since upgrading to karmic [01:19] my touch pad no longer scrolls [01:20] LadyNikon, check this out [01:20] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-widget-network-manager/+bug/378145 [01:20] BluesKaj plugged that in #kde [01:23] brb [01:25] hi folks === jeffryj_ is now known as calamari [01:26] anyone know how to start a kde app from a script that's called by a cron job? I always get an error telling me, that my app is KUniqueApplication. [01:28] my script: [01:28] #!/bin/bash [01:28] /usr/bin/kmail #that's only an example [01:30] Tracker issue [01:31] two "can't index" dialogs, won't close [01:31] is there kde 4.3 beta packages for jaunty? [01:32] last night i tried to upgrade to karmic but i was afraid of endless updates for the next 6 months [01:32] how do I restart the compositing effects [01:32] because it crashed for some reason [01:32] GinoMan: try Ctrl+Shift+F12 [01:33] Alright so I consulted a fellow linux enthusiast "dad" and he has suggested that My terminal will not display "username@system~$" because of a network issue. So I cheesed my way into getting my network configured and now I have wireless and wired connections. But konsole still wont post. what do I do? its just black [01:33] not to ask a stupid question, but how to get a process list, close one? [01:33] flector systemMonitor [01:33] it's not working [01:34] flector: ps ax [01:35] ps ax what? in Konsole as su [01:35] flector: in Konsole, no su [01:35] trying to close two uncloseable Tracker applets [01:37] flector you can type "ps ax" in console for a text based PID list, or you can press alt+f2 and type [01:37] flector "system monitor [01:37] " [01:37] flector I prefer system monitor because i like to look at realtime system usage [01:39] not a big deal, can't seem to close it [01:39] sudo kill "pid number" [01:39] that worked [01:40] its my favorite command =) [01:40] thanks ;) [01:41] anybody want to test an app via Wine? [01:41] what app [01:41] html generator free app [01:42] haven't decided on wx, qt or gtk yet [01:43] http://dirhtml.enware.info/ for what it's worth [01:43] i would help but i really need to get cracking on my fluid simulation [01:49] Hello is there a command to completly uninstall OOo? [01:49] browser set to "winebrowser" [01:50] sudo apt-get remove OOo [01:51] Amarok's getting busy [01:52] alas, no cover images, nothing but music [01:56] seriously, no right click taskbar, kill? [01:57] had to resort to VLC to hear a video [02:00] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDfT2NYHyD8 [02:00] saludos desde Venezuela [02:01] saludos desde Venezuela [02:01] les tengo una pregunta [02:01] CAN ANYONE Help me fix /bin/bash [02:01] como hago para instalar Openoffice 3.1 en KDE 4 [02:17] 64bit version without tricks oh [02:17] 4 cpus but no full use of them [02:19] zou need dam small code for parallel algos [02:21] the dummies of MS received closed code without libs a.k.a. Visual Studio and thez deceive use of 4 cpus for propaganda [02:22] Hi all. Silly question. I just accidentally added a word to my spellchecker dictionary by mistake that is in fact wrong. How can I edit the list of added words to take it back out? [02:27] in suse linux i is a main next server folder where Zou can edit that [02:28] it is NOT for the thesaurus alone but unlimited for anz tzping [02:33] Where the heck is qtparted? [02:40] FoxBlitzz: it's been abandoned by its authors. I'd suggest using partionmanager as a kde alternative [02:43] hola soy nuevo === Asph is now known as FallBorn === FallBorn is now known as Asphalted === Asphalted is now known as Asph === Asph is now known as Asphalted [03:03] is it possible to remove the text from the taskbar buttons so it only shows the program icon like w7 ? [03:13] where do i go to restart a service? [03:29] Hello [03:29] everybody [03:30] 有能认识中文的么 [03:41] hey 4 some reason after switching to kubuntu my wifi wont connect and suggestions [03:42] i hawe this same prob with ubuntu [03:42] 904 [03:42] anybody [03:50] ho everyone, I just installed Kubuntu 9.04 on my laptop ,and everythink is fine, except for the audio ....; imean , it works on the system, but when I try to watch some video on the web , the audio doesn't works .... [03:51] someone can help me with that problem ? === Asph is now known as Asphalted === erin is now known as BigPatice [04:11] Anyone know how I can fix my qt4 designer? I can use QT4 apps, but the designer seg faults before displaying anything. [04:14] how do i get to this path someone: System/Admin/hardware Driver [04:15] the short version is if you can't compile the lib's you have no business distributing anything [04:15] you'd think they give precompiled with each distribution, but no [04:15] anybody know how do i check whick wireless drivers r installed [04:16] having very good luck with CStdString === jabwokky is now known as JabberWokky [04:39] indeed it seems opensuse supports kde better, as kde.org has listed opensuse as one that has kde 4.3 packages [04:39] i know karmic also does [04:46] hi how i can know my network wireless card type [04:46] ahmos: lscpi [04:47] command not found [04:47] whoops [04:47] ahmos: lspci [04:48] draik thank's ;) [04:48] ahmos: No worries :) [04:52] hatcha! [04:58] Does irssi keep a log of all chats? [05:14] anybody here? [05:17] darren_: Probably best just to state your issue then see if any takers. === darren_ is now known as trialnerror [05:17] thanks... [05:19] how do I disable the update notifier in the, umm, system tray(?) for non primary users? [05:20] I dont see it in the plasma widgets [05:21] using kubuntu intrepid and kde4.2 BTW [05:30] Does irssi have a log of all my chats? [05:37] draik: Apparently not by default. http://irssi.org/documentation/startup#c8 [05:39] genii: Thanks. So it seems that all which I was saying before is lost. Oh well. [05:39] draik: If it was in a channel which is logged, check the logs [05:39] genii: mostly PM [05:40] Ah, too bad. [05:41] hi [05:41] Yeah. Live and learn, right? [05:41] i want to program in java. do i have to set class paths ? [05:47] where do i go to restart a service? [05:47] jerware: I'm going to start doing the same thing and I don't know anything just yet about programming in Java, but I think you do. [05:47] talaman: If the servicename exists in /etc/init.d directory, you can in Konsole: sudo /etc/init.d/service-name restart [05:47] talaman: What service? The command is typically 'sudo /etc/init.d/SERVICE restart' without the quotes and SERVICE being the service to restart. [05:48] service/daemon [05:48] in the previous version i could go in and say restart smb...now i can't find it [05:48] anyone here familiar with kdevelop at all? [05:49] talaman: samba (if it is installed) is in there [05:49] genii, samba was an example [05:49] talaman: What's the service/daemon? [05:50] any service/daemon [05:50] where in the gui do i find them? [05:51] * draik is currently running irssi on Ubuntu Server 9.04 and thinking, 'GUI???' [05:51] draik: Hehe, I empathise [05:52] talaman: I'm on kde3. But I find it there to be in System Settings..Advanced tab...System Services [05:52] isn't kubuntu using kde? [05:52] talaman: New KDE is KDE4.2 [05:52] talaman: Different versions of Kubuntu use different KDE versions [05:52] talaman: genii is using KDE3, not KDE4.2 [05:53] yes, it would seem i upgraded and something got moved [05:53] yeah, i think i'm missing system services [05:54] i got a service manager, but it down't have any outside of kde [05:55] talaman: Personally, nothing will ever beat CLI when it comes to true system management. That's my personal opinion, of course. [05:56] well with ubuntu you're probably right... or at least it's a one or the other [05:57] Ubuntu uses GNOME, Kubuntu uses KDE. CLI is Terminal for Ubuntu and Konsole for Kubuntu. [05:57] i.e. if you are using cli don't expect it to translate to the gui and if you're using the gui don't expect it to translate to the cli [05:57] ubuntu, kubuntu, any buntu [05:57] all has the same issue [05:57] bbl [05:58] going to try a different version to see if i can get my services back under control [05:58] dang wish pclinuxos would work on the hd [05:59] that was truely the best linux [05:59] I don't see how a KDE-related issue is related to the GNOME GUI [05:59] * genii shrugs [05:59] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmN0mFHDH2w [06:00] !ot [06:00] woofers, good [06:00] #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks! === hemathor_ is now known as hemathor [06:01] hey guys [06:01] brb guys gotta get some coffee [06:01] flector: The Dead is classic, I agree. Just offtopic for here. [06:02] How can I watch the YouTube video on Ubuntu Server 9.04? [06:03] draik: Yes, I doubt elinks with svga-libs would do it... [06:13] hi how i can disable nv-clock [06:24] Does the Razer mouse work in Ubuntu? === darren_ is now known as trialnerror [06:57] Jaunty installation: upon reboot, I get a GRUB error "Error 2" [06:59] any ideas? [07:11] question [07:11] what is the process that controls sound output in kubuntu? [07:11] i.e. if i have firefox open and i'm watching a youtube video, i've never had a problem opening amarok and putting on some music [07:11] i just did a fresh install of 9.04 and there seems to be some issue with sound sharing..if i play any sound in firefox amarok will hang when i try to play a song [07:12] i've never had this problem. i also just did a fresh install of the alsa drivers...not really sure where to start debugging [07:13] asdf [07:25] mot: I found the same issue on a laptop that I installed for a friend :( [07:25] also had issues with graphics (Intel) :S [07:27] Captain_Haddock: in the release notes there was a regression somewhere :( [07:36] good evening, I wonder can I use dpkg while installing a .deb and have it check dependencies w/out breaking anything first? [07:36] Or more specifically, I want to install libc6 to 2.7 where I have 2.4 [07:39] hi i need to setup runlevel priority list to run ushare at startup but only after i get connected to the internet, but i don't know what's runlevel priority list. i googled it and found nothing useful. Where could I find some documentation on this? [07:44] why does firefox continually refuse to present itself properly to Kubuntu [07:45] it doesn't show up as a web browser for perferred apps and it doesn't show in the internet tab unless i manually add it [07:55] any help'? [07:58] how can i reset the kopete notifcations, i get the popup but there is no buttons in the text, and buttons dont work [08:00] eagles0513875: aye, I saw that a tad too late though :| [08:00] hihi [08:01] tripod i found double clicking it at least moves it away [08:01] yes, i know that, thanks though :) [08:04] anyone can inspire me that how do i make kubuntu box to have function of router or ICS? [08:15] How do I get the manual for 'read' installed? [08:45] how to install rekonq in kubuntu i am in kubuntu jaunty [08:49] guys can any of you help me out here i am unable to use any package manager heres the error http://paste.ubuntu.com/177769/ [09:01] Gamarok__: are you trying to run more than one package manager at a time? [09:01] you can't do that [09:02] i fixed it man [09:03] Gamarok__: dpkg is an exclusive command, you can only run it in one instance, to avoid package mismatches and install problems [09:04] actually i know that man the thing was i updated my pc and after it was over i switched off my pc and the problem has been happening since [09:06] Gamarok__: +wo... [09:13] kubuntu.ru есть? [09:14] !ru | elvis4791 [09:14] elvis4791: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke [09:16] what can i use to take a screen shot [09:16] eagles0513875: ksnapshot [09:16] thanks [09:23] wassup [09:23] !hi | joshua__ [09:23] joshua__: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu! [09:23] any know how i get to xbins from here [09:24] joshua__: tried /join #xbins? [09:24] yeah [09:24] joshua__: are you sure the channel exists? [09:24] yeah its on effnet i believe [09:25] its a xbox mod channel [09:25] joshua__: then you will have to change the irc net, you are on freenode here [09:25] ahhh [09:25] and how would i go bout doin that by chance......sorry im new at this ubuntu stuff [09:26] joshua__: in the settings of your IRC client you cna change the IRC net and the channel to join automatically [09:26] can* [09:27] im oblivios to how to do that [09:27] joshua__: what IRC client are you using? [09:27] konversation [09:28] im used to usin mirc [09:28] joshua__: well, the settings don't change from one client to another, maybe just the menu location [09:29] on mirc everything is there to pick from.....pretty user friendly [09:29] joshua__: question of getting used to, konversation is userfriendly too :) [09:29] Hi. I've freshly installed the latest kubuntu 9.04 but have a little trouble: [09:29] yeah..............im just an idiot [09:30] the kmail help isn't accecible [09:30] im used to windows...blach [09:30] i was just converted yesterday to ubuntu [09:30] when i try kmail->help i get "the file kmail/index.html doesn't exist" [09:30] hjb: because there is none yet, the khelpcenter has a bug [09:30] Mamarok: when will that be fixed? [09:31] joshua__: I didn't say that [09:31] hjb: subscribe to the bug and you will get notifyed [09:31] hjb: but you can find a lot of help online :) [09:31] Mamarok: ok, thanks [09:32] Mamarok: yeah, but i'm setting up this machine for my father [09:32] Mamarok: i think he would expext that working [09:32] hjb: then you will have to do the help I am afraid, at least for now [09:34] hjb: maybe get him a bookmark to online help? [09:35] and remind him that help not working is a lesser evil than needing for example an antivirus that eats resources [09:36] aftertaf: he was on linux before, but on suse 8 ;) [09:36] nice :) [09:37] hjb: then if he already knows how to use kmail he will find his way around, the apps are the same [09:37] surprising, in itself, but I stand happily corrected; [09:37] Mamarok: kmail hasn't changed? nice to know, as i'm not using it personally [09:37] aftertaf: if he uses Kmail then its kmail, regardless the deistribution [09:38] true... [09:38] hjb: well, the version is much newer, as Suse 8 ewas still running KDE 3.5 IIRC [09:38] just kde4 is different :) [09:38] there is bags of online help if he needs it; [09:38] and 9.04 uses KDE 4, but Kmail has gone better since, with a lot of bugfixes [09:39] aftertaf: but still better then convert him to gnome when he was used to kde3 before, i hope [09:39] yep [09:39] 4.1 was tough, now we're lokking goood [09:40] aftertaf: i'm personally not using kde at all, but right now, what i have seen so far looks nice :) [09:40] is kde 4.3 available anywhere, apart from project neon? [09:40] is IS... [09:40] it. [09:40] aftertaf: wait to see 4.3, it's gorgeous :) [09:40] aftertaf: yes, but only for experienced user, as there are dependency problems still with the packages [09:40] i have it from neon on my home PC... [09:40] --force-overwrite is my second nature :) [09:41] aftertaf: it's in the experimental repos [09:41] coooool [09:41] * aftertaf opens yakuake [09:41] you have to open it? Doesn't it run in the background for you? ;) [09:42] F12 :) [09:42] aftertaf: don't know if it's in 4.3 yet though... [09:43] deb http:// is ppa kubuntu experimental? [09:43] cant find 4.3 :( [09:44] what sources.list do i need to add? [09:44] aftertaf: wait, I'll get the repo for you [09:45] cheers :) [09:45] im new to quassel too, how do i turn off the in/out notifications? [09:45] didnt find earlier [09:46] found :) [09:46] aftertaf: found the repo? [09:46] no, the hide :) [09:46] what i find is that this system is damn slow when doing a lot of disk i/o [09:46] anything to tune that? [09:46] sata? [09:47] aftertaf: https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/experimental [09:47] aftertaf: and you need a new key for that one too [09:48] ok. i am missing about 10 keys alrady :) [09:48] aftertaf: you reall should install it though, just to be sure [09:48] aftertaf: sata? was tat for me? [09:49] hjb: did you install the -dbg packages too? [09:49] Mamarok: no [09:49] ok, one source eliminated === desti_T2 is now known as desti [09:49] hjb: how much ram and swap? [09:49] :) [09:50] Mamarok: 1 GB ram, 1GB swap [09:51] Mem: 1003204k total, 984680k used, 18524k free, 17800k buffers [09:51] Swap: 996020k total, 15108k used, 980912k free, 475052k cached [09:51] hjb: double the swap space I would say [09:52] hjb: below 4 GB RAM the rule is to use double the swap than the RAM [09:52] Mamarok: never heard of that rule so far... but ok, i'll give it a try [09:52] hjb: services running in the background that use CPU? [09:53] Mamarok: no [09:53] hjb: might be tricky to do if swap is between / and /home [09:54] Mamarok: no problem, i can shrink / [09:54] there's space left [09:55] hjb: good [09:55] double swap than ram is a rule here since ages :) [09:55] I have 4 GB RAM and 8 GB swap, but swap is very rarely used [09:55] but before with 2 GB on the other PC it was [09:58] upgrading :) [09:59] hope the network manager wifi works better :) [10:02] just got one question if someone know tis message that a get every time am trying to install anything...E: Type "http://blueeyedcreature.net/ubuntu" is not nown on line 54 in the list of sources /etc/apt/sources.list [10:02] E: The list of sources coud not be shown [10:03] semcis: there's a typo in your sources list [10:04] or the serever you try to get packages from is down [10:05] ok....but....there is always a but, iam trying to get wine, that schoudent be any problem..? or not!.. [10:06] semcis: what is exactly on line 54 ? [10:06] hi guys, i am on kubuntu 9.04 with kde 4,3. i am facing very high cpu loads (above 80%) when i transfer files. can anybody tell me why this happens? [10:06] (sorry for the eng...) [10:06] dont now. =/ [10:07] semcis: wine is in the current repositories, you do not need an external one [10:07] ok [10:07] Assurbanipal: when did you install that? [10:09] when i installed what? [10:09] kde 4.3 [10:09] jaunty comes with 4.2 (release 3) [10:10] when it was released for kubuntu, i added the repo mentioned in kubuntu.org [10:10] Got a key-related problem I don't know how to solve. Every time I type "apt-get update" I get an error at the end, stating a key error: [10:10] W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com jaunty-security Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key [10:10] the last line suggests running "apt-get update" to fix the error. [10:10] semcis: you can open your sources.list with kate and press F11 to see the line numbers [10:12] ok..thanks! [10:13] Mamarok: any ideas? [10:14] Assurbanipal: you did an update since like 2 days ago? [10:14] yes, i updatedtoday too.. [10:15] Mamarok: and just repeated update, but nothing new to install... [10:15] Assurbanipal: I just tried here and my CPU behaves normally [10:15] Assurbanipal: what does top tell you? [10:15] well that went well.... just trashed my desktop config :) [10:17] Mamarok: http://pastebin.com/m418ac65b [10:19] oh, and there's a process going mad on my "top" - update-apt-xapi [10:19] What's that? [10:19] Assurbanipal: you have a python running for some particular task? That eats CPU a lot too [10:19] and you have a ntfs share [10:19] i saw that too.... :) [10:19] shouldnt it be mounted with fuse ? [10:20] Viking667: auto updating apt job i think [10:20] i don't really get all you say... [10:20] :S [10:20] aftertaf: gah. Figures. [10:20] in the Top command there is a job using python... [10:20] is this voluntary? [10:21] aftertaf: already asked that :) [10:21] yeah ;) . . . but trying to help the understandage [10:21] Viking667: you are currently updating? [10:21] i don;t know what is using python, i am running firefox,vlc,quassel now [10:21] I guess the program thinks it is. [10:21] Assurbanipal: kill python then [10:22] Viking667: kill it if not [10:22] it's uh, finished. [10:22] now, back to this key problem. [10:22] ok,killed it [10:22] it only seems to relate to the security-jaunty source. [10:23] now finished copying and system behaves normal.. [10:24] Assurbanipal: I guess it's the ntfs location that causes it, I can't test, don't have one [10:24] the ntfs disk is connected through usb if that helps [10:24] oh. Gawd. USB 2.0, I hope? [10:26] as far as i know... yes! [10:29] hi, is a seperate kubuntu chan in german available? [10:30] so, nothing i should do? [10:31] !de | aseko [10:31] aseko: In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis. [10:31] noone who can answer this question? [10:31] ah danke ubottu [10:31] !bot | aseko [10:31] aseko: Hi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots [10:32] darf man denn hier auch deutsch sprechen oder is amtssprache hier EN? [10:32] aseko: there is #kubuntu-de [10:33] !de | aseko [10:33] aseko: In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis. [10:33] Don_Miguel: I think one bot call is enough... [10:33] and the bot does not list the channel he is looking for anyway [10:33] * Mamarok goes to change that [10:34] all good things are three [10:34] !de | aseko [10:34] aseko, please see my private message [10:34] lol [10:36] Mamarok, sorry, I did not see the previous bot call for de [10:36] Don_Miguel: ok [10:36] Assurbanipal: when you type 'mount' what type is set for your nfts drive? [10:37] /dev/sdd1 on /media/music type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096) [10:41] i tjhink this is what u r looking for,should i pastebin the whole mount results? === rjb is now known as drbobb === j is now known as Guest87276 [10:43] hey this is crazy. I suddenly realised ALL of my virt. memory was in use (3G of ram + 2G of swap). I checked it out in htop, and firefox was using, like 3.5 G [10:43] all that with 3 open tabs [10:45] that was 5x as much as a virtualbox running xp [10:45] drbobb: huh? That's so sick. [10:45] I promptly shut down that beast, and saw the process remain active for like 10 more minutes after closing its window [10:45] 454m 209m 33m S 1.3 18.4 151:12.88 firefox and that's with eight tabs. [10:46] thrashing the disk like crazy, until I lost patience and killed it [10:46] when ever i type sudo ifconfig eth0:1 10.1.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 up it works.. then i restart my PC and then the configuration is gone [10:46] drbobb: probably flash going wild, a common problem with firefox [10:47] Mamarok: but wouldn't that be reflected in a separate processs? [10:47] bye all. [10:47] drbobb: no, as flash runs as a firefox plugin, it's listet under firefox [10:47] cu Viking667 [10:47] or does 64 bit firefox run flash in-process [10:48] Firefox does that more and more [10:48] v3.5 doesnt even close when you close it [10:49] that sucks [10:49] husayn: have you changed network cards or anything since first install? [10:49] well firefox was always a pain when you have homedirs on nfs [10:49] aftertaf: works fine so far in KDE 4.3 [10:49] 3.1 yeah [10:50] ouch, home dir on nfs?... [10:50] shiretoko wont close correcty for me [10:50] flash [10:50] Mamarok: what's so weird about that [10:50] ciao [10:50] flash: do you need help? [10:51] drbobb: about what? [10:51] nfs home i think [10:51] Mamarok: here we have labs where both / and /home are on nfs, and the boxes boot on pxe [10:52] used to be etherboot/netboot but that's kinda obsolete [10:52] drbobb: just seems strange to me to use a nfs if one can have etx3/4... but I never use Windows, so :) [10:52] husayn_: have you tried using the network manager widget to set your IP ?or you set 2 IPs? [10:53] Mamarok: well what if you need to provide the user with the same /home no matter which of 50 workstations he happens to be using [10:53] no i havnt tried network manager [10:53] sunray and terminal server farms at work [10:53] can we configure 2 IP in network manager in Kubuntu Hardy Heron [10:53] i dont think so [10:53] Mamarok: and I fail to see the relation between nfs and windows [10:54] drbobb: sry, my bad... [10:54] read ntfs.... [10:54] google for alias ubuntu network ip, maybe? dont know... [10:54] Mamarok: ah you saw a 't' where there was none ;) [10:54] lol [10:54] force of bad habit ;) [10:55] aftertaf: yeah great idea, but sun gear is $$$$$$$ [10:55] husayn_: and you type it in shell each time to set it, right, why dont you put it in your /etc/network/interfaces ? [10:56] drbobb: $$$$ :) and TS is crap. Keeps randomly crashing and doesnt swap users etc etc etc :) [10:56] humm i will try for that [10:56] one more thing.. how to check if my graphics card is installed [10:56] do you see whatwe type ? [10:56] :) joke [10:56] what type is it? [10:57] howdy [10:57] it will be installed, you want to know if using correct (or proprietary) drivers ? [10:57] hello TenJ [10:57] we're getting some beefed up NAS boxes to handle nfs now, used to be a low-end sun enterprise or something [10:57] nice [10:57] one the size of a small fridge [10:57] ahem [10:57] does it have a USB/Beer port ? [10:58] worked ok for up to 50 clients or so [10:58] nope it's just scuzzy all over the place [10:58] i mean scsi [10:59] i am geek enough to understand :) [11:00] well just launched firefox is 475M virt size for me [11:00] apt-get install fatfox :) [11:01] hu [11:01] virt is almost completely meaningless. [11:01] well maybe arora will get adblock support one of these days [11:02] SSJ_GZ: it maybe meaningless but it sure climbs fast [11:03] ok. sun is out so time for a splash in the swimming pool. laters all:) [11:03] I'd use konqueror exclusively if it were supported by gmail === olujicz_ is now known as olujicz [11:09] hey when I was using my 9.04 laptop this morning I had dolphin create a file with several '/' characters in its name. I thought that was not allowed? [11:11] the funny part being that it was able to create and access this file, but copying it to another device failed. I'd say there's a bug here somewhere [11:15] I have installed kde-desktop but I do not see any panel. is there any extra settings required to see panel? [11:16] muttman: did you logout and log back in? [11:16] yes I did. Even I tried reboot [11:17] or did you install it in text-mode environment, in gnome, whatever [11:17] maybe you need to choose kde session at the login screen, cause your current default is probably different [11:17] from 8.10 I updated to 9.04. I was using gnome. Then I did apt-get install kde-desptop [11:18] drbobb: I am using kdm and I can see kgreeter [11:19] well check out what session is set for you at the kdm screen, after typing your login but before logging in [11:20] otherwise you might need to delete or rename your ~/.kde/ [11:21] move it to .kde_old/ is sometimes the best choice if you are not running out of diskspace [11:21] yeah right [11:21] so you can find your Mails and other stuff again [11:21] drbobb: I did moved ~/.kde DO I need to logout? [11:22] well I wouldn't be surprised if that was needed [11:23] * drbobb often forgets that some folks still use pop3 for mail rather than imap or gmail [11:23] which there is no excuse for these days, really [11:24] drbobb, yeah it worked now [11:25] I can see panels.. Thanks a lot [11:26] when I Run urxvt, default is ~/Documents [11:26] is n't this strange? [11:27] Hi [11:27] هلا [11:27] * drbobb has never used urxvt [11:29] yakuake is pretty swell, though it does have a couple shortcomings [11:30] btw config of sessions in konsole is currently still quite buggy [11:30] the sessions I define tend to randomly vanish from the menu === Jungle is now known as ju2gle [11:36] can anyone comment on dolphin vs. slashes in filenames? [11:40] drbobb: explain, I fear I don't get the question [11:40] when I was using my 9.04 laptop this morning I had dolphin create a file with several '/' characters in its name. I thought that was not allowed? [11:41] btw I was able to do that by drag'n'dropping a url from firefox [11:41] drbobb: I don't thin so, what happened is that you insterted spaces in a filename, and on the command line these can not be shown otherwise than with \ // [11:41] the result was a .desktop file named http://blah.blah.etc/and/so/on.desktop [11:42] named http:// ? [11:43] that is a URL, not a filename [11:43] drbobb: why would you drag and drop an URL to dolphin? [11:43] it's not a browser [11:44] Mamarok: instead of bookmarking the url [11:44] and why not since it works [11:45] ok just tried that in hardy, the name of the .desktop file is urlencoded [11:45] drbobb: strange idea... you actually dragged it to the desktop, nbot to dolphin, hnce the .desktop extension [11:45] that is, slashes are replaced by %2f [11:46] Mamarok: no, I dragged it to a folder open in dolphin [11:46] drbobb: because of your locale settings [11:46] and this did exactly what I expected, created a launcher that takes me to that url if I click on it [11:47] drbobb: that's not how one stores URL addresses anyway, bookmakrs are there for exactly that task, and you can export bookmarks to a html or xl file [11:47] Mamarok: I fail to see what locale has to do with this [11:47] '/' is disallowed in filenames no matter what the locale [11:47] the slashes are replaced by %2f because of that [11:48] so would spaces be too [11:48] URL rules [11:48] well the point is that they weren't [11:48] * Mamarok sighs [11:48] uh spaces are totally okay in filenames, though not in urls [11:48] not in Dolphin, no, as it's not a broswer... [11:49] so it will not replace spaces, but a broswer does [11:49] Mamarok: plain old ls(1) showed me slashes in the name of the .desktop file [11:49] drbobb: that's what I try to tell you... [11:50] and the functionality that you can drag a url to a folder, desktop or any other, has been present in kde for as long as I can remember [11:51] even the ancient kfm supported that [11:53] and it's not so pointless: say you picked up some image files or whatever else form a website, d/l'ed them to a folder, and want to keep a reference to where you got them from together with that data [11:53] s/form/from/ [11:53] a .desktop file pointing to the site's url serves that purpose perfectly [11:57] anyway, what I see in hardy is what I'd expect: in dolphin's view of the folder, the urlencoding is decoded to show the user a "friendly" filename [11:58] and attempting to rename or manually create a file with literal slashes in the filename fails [11:58] well that's not what I saw on my jaunty machine [12:01] hey [12:01] anyone here? [12:01] !ask | johnny_ [12:01] johnny_: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [12:16] liunian: usually ppl ask permission to PM in chan. whats up? [12:19] hello everyone [12:20] howdy liunian [12:22] hahaha [12:22] howdy Gamarok [12:24] it is so fun , irc [12:26] hi [12:26] hi [12:26] hi peace === perpustakaan is now known as perpustakaanjnjj [12:37] hello! [12:37] I've a very big problem [12:37] .. [12:37] my mouse isn't doing what i want [12:37] well [12:37] it just happend during the last kde session... [12:38] first it worked allright, and then, it started dragging things without holding the left mouse buttons... i can control windows the one time, the other time i just can't do anything [12:38] window controls (close minimize, etc) are sometimes working, the other time not... [12:39] I'm lucky that i know that much keyboard shortcuts to open konversation and the kubuntu channels... [12:39] any idea what is messing my mouse up? [12:39] no my mouse curser changed to the text marker curse for any reason :D [12:39] i already restarted my pc twice [12:41] And my pc info: Kubuntu 9.04, latest stable KDE Version (4.2.3?), Intel Pentium 4 and compositing enabled [12:41] tried to reconfigure xorg? [12:42] don't know what should happen, i didn't configured it before the error happend... [12:42] jonathan__: nothing [12:43] ok wait [12:43] jonathan__: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg [12:43] that is the command [12:43] i know but thanks ;) [12:43] the mouse isn't even mentioned within my xorg.conf... [12:44] i know i know [12:44] hi all [12:44] hi [12:44] what is the keyboard shortcut for disabling/enabling desktop effects? [12:44] no [12:44] systemsettins----->desktop -------->enable desktop effects [12:44] the file didn't change [12:45] jonathan__: the file no...but... [12:45] Peace-: yes, i know that, but i knew a keyboard shortcut for this, its faster. Something like CTRL+F?? [12:45] lovre: Alt, Schift and F12 [12:45] jonathan__: yes, thats it. thank you! [12:45] lovre: create your own shortcuts [12:45] no problem ;) [12:45] Jonathan the only way to populate the xorg conf is to run Xorg -configure from a recovery console [12:45] lovre: systemsettins---->input action or somethingk like that [12:46] ok i will give it a try [12:46] Peace-: i see, thank you... [12:46] ok i think it won't help ;) so see you in a few minutes ;) [13:07] Good Day [13:11] hi, quickaccess and folder view don't work, do you know what would be the problem....? [13:33] How can I install the 32-bit libs on 64-bit kubuntu? [13:33] (9.04) [13:35] it keeps saying su-java6-doc-jar.zip error [13:35] rmrfslash: you need ia32-libs to run anything that is 32bit on 64bit [13:36] rmrfslash, install w32codecs and in the package manager type ia32 , then install the libs that are listed...not all are required but it difficult to tell [13:36] !sound [13:36] If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3 [13:37] Hi! [13:37] eagles0513875: thanks [13:37] BluesKaj: thanks [13:37] What's the command that shows me which Kubuntu-version I use? [13:37] no problem rmrfslash [13:37] I always forget that command. [13:38] x_link: lsb_release -a [13:39] Pici: Ahh right [13:39] Thanks! [13:41] help [13:42] Press RETURN to try again, 'no' + RETURN to abort] no [13:42] Abort installation of J2SDK documentation [13:42] dpkg: error processing sun-java5-doc (--configure): [13:42] subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 [13:42] Errors were encountered while processing: [13:42] sun-java6-doc [13:42] sun-java5-doc [13:42] Reading package lists... Done [13:42] Building dependency tree [13:42] Reading state information... Done [13:42] Reading extended state information [13:42] Initializing package states... Done [13:42] !paste | superboy [13:42] superboy: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic) [13:42] superboy: what was the message before "press return.." [13:43] !patience | superboy [13:43] superboy: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines [13:44] superboy: if you want a quick way to install alot of the restricted stuff from flash to java and others i recommend installing kubuntu-restricted-extras === fabian is now known as FabianP [13:46] thanks bro === fabian is now known as Fabian1604 [13:53] test [13:53] anyone online? [13:53] what is freenode? [13:56] hey binbin [13:57] ? [13:57] anyone here? [13:58] i think so binbin [13:58] is this a talkshow? [13:58] i don't think so [13:58] binbin: if you have questions about freenode please ask in #freenode if you have kubuntu related questions and need support please ask and patienly wait [13:59] i see [14:00] this is a place provided for a group of peaple can communicate together [14:00] !ot | binbin [14:00] binbin: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks! [14:02] bye bye ! guys [14:03] bye binbin [14:13] hi guys, any ideas why grub won't start? I'm having the "wrong allocation table" error === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [14:22] Anyone know what libtypes.so is from? [14:25] hi guys, any ideas why grub won't start? I'm having the "wrong allocation table" error and it happened after installing kubuntu :| [14:28] !grub | SOBEAR [14:28] SOBEAR: GRUB is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto [14:29] I tried it [14:32] oh SOBEAR , allocation table means you need to flag your kubuntu partition as 'boot' [14:32] tried it too, I have a bad feeling my hdd just died [14:33] tyhen you might need to edit grub if windows won't boot up either [14:33] I already tried editting grub.list [14:34] now I'm almost sure my hdd is dead [14:34] alguien de Bolivia???? [14:34] Hi. How can i decode the password that is stored in the kmailrc file? [14:35] the password for the pop3 account is in there, but when i look at he file with less [14:35] only carets are displayed [14:35] BluesKaj I tried every solution I could find in google [14:36] SOBEAR, what partition editor are you using ? [14:36] I tried gparted, partition magic and the xp one [14:37] gparted is the best IMO ,are you using the GParted live cd ? [14:38] yeah [14:39] I might sound noobish but I'm not [14:39] SOBEAR, what do the partitions show ? [14:39] the one I tried booting is labeled with b [14:40] partition magic is a killer stay away from it , one wrong move an you end up with no OSss [14:40] yeah I know, especially with ext4 and newer verions of ntfs [14:41] what about the file systems, are they labelled ? [14:41] yeah [14:41] on the drive I'm trying to boot: 2x ntfs (right), 1x ext4 and swap [14:42] ext4 didn't work for me , it was terrible [14:42] it was working for me with no problems [14:42] tried jaunty on it [14:44] I already tried installing kubuntu on ext3 and still the same thing [14:44] ok, what are the partitions listed as ? === nicolas_ is now known as Guest36620 [14:44] hola [14:44] what do you mean? [14:44] spansh chanel? [14:44] where? [14:44] hd0 hda ? [14:45] sda === Guest36620 is now known as Indigo [14:45] !es | Guest36620 [14:45] Guest36620: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es. === Indigo is now known as indigo [14:45] hd0 is the windows partition [14:45] hello? [14:45] yes it is [14:45] hd1 ntfs data [14:46] hd2 kubuntu [14:46] where i can join to spanish chanel? [14:46] !es | indigo [14:46] indigo: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es. [14:46] ;) [14:46] gawd [14:46] i found ubuntu-ar ^^ [14:47] oh sorry, what's the command to check all the partitions? [14:47] indigo, trolling , or can't you read spanish ? [14:48] nono i only just try to find a Spanish Chanel, i found it ^^ #ubuntu-ar [14:48] thx anyway [14:48] #ubuntu-es [14:48] indigo: #ubuntu-ar is the local argentina channel. The official spanish channel is still #ubuntu-es [14:48] SOBEAR, df -h [14:48] yep [14:48] i know [14:49] i from argentina [14:49] ^^ [14:50] fire fox is allready running thats what i'm told but it is not [14:51] fire fox is allready running thats what i'm told but it is not plz help [14:52] SOBEAR, sorry it's sudo fdisk -l [14:52] right now I'm moving all my data from one hdd to another and I'll try to make it the main one [14:52] fire fox is allready running thats what i'm told but it is not plz help === indigo is now known as Indigo [14:53] toby_: sudo killall firefox [14:53] no prosses killed [14:55] oh great, I can't start Konsole from livecd [14:57] genii: no prosess killed [14:57] thats what i get [14:57] now what do i do? [14:58] Hm. Exited before another suggestion could be offered. [14:58] BluesKaj: got it [14:59] ok SOBEAR , what have you got ? [15:00] can I pm you? don't wanna spam the channel [15:00] toby_: ps aux | grep firefox Then if it lists anything (aside from the "grep firefox") then use the pid number after the username to kill it. [15:00] SOBEAR, can you pastebin it ? [15:00] 1 second === anonimous_ is now known as yaa_ [15:04] BluesKaj: no can do :( [15:04] I have no idea what's wrong [15:07] !pm | SOBEAR, [15:07] SOBEAR,: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first. [15:24] can anyone give me a link that explains how to connect to a printer shared on an XP machine? (with XP being the server) [15:24] !print [15:24] Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows [15:24] see the last link there [15:24] !cups [15:25] thanks tsimpson [15:32] Suddenly my keyboard does not work in Kubuntu 9.04. Nothing happens when I press keys. Mouse and applications work fine. How do I get my keyboard back? [15:33] I was doing some important stuff in Konsole. I cannot save my work without keyboard. [15:33] Please help. [15:35] Keyboard num lock light works. [15:35] I can SSH to the machine without keyboard. [15:35] From a different computer [15:35] (the one I use for IRC now) [15:35] tdn: you might have sticky keys or something else switched on [15:35] or delayed keys... [15:36] desu, how do I check? [15:36] keep a key pressed for a while, it should insert that character... [15:36] desu, how can that be switched on without me knowing it? [15:36] desu, can I turn it off from ssh? [15:36] or with the mouse? [15:36] desu, Alt+Tab is not working. I cannot write en terminal, etc. [15:36] system settings -> accessibility [15:36] keep a key pressed for a while and try.. [15:37] tdn: turn off slow keys or anything else that might be on [15:37] desu, how do I turn slow keys off? I am in settings > Accessi.... [15:37] Activatio gestures. [15:38] sticky keys and slow keys are unchecked. [15:38] switch them on, apply, switch them off, apply. [15:38] WTF?! Now the keyboard works! [15:38] Thanks a lot! [15:38] I have NO idea why this happened. [15:38] you're welcome [15:38] I have not enabled that stuff. [15:38] you'd accidentally triggered an activcation gesture [15:39] But I have manually turned all that sh*t off when I have just installed. === peterz` is now known as peterz [15:47] after upgrading to kubuntu 9.04 KDE desktop freezes after i dont use it for a while . It also freezes in gnome === Being_Tsukasa is now known as Tsukasa-class [15:47] i have to reboot my system [15:49] other than that it works good but i dont know why it keeps freezing [15:49] mark___ you have an intel graphics card? [15:50] no i have a nvidia geforce 8500 [15:51] was working fine in intrepid 8.10 [15:52] mark___ ah sry... can't help you then. :( I had the same problems as you have but with an intel card.. there is a tutorial on how to improve this, but this is related to the intel card, so it probably doesn't apply to your case. :( Sry [15:52] it only does it when i leave the computer for a while [15:52] usually after a few hours of inactivity [15:54] compiz works fine and the graphics work great when playing games , google earth etc. [15:55] woke up this morning and turned the monitor on and everything was frozen again [15:56] oh well it might be time to do a fresh install [15:56] mark___ i can only tell you what others told me: that great parts of ubuntu have been rewritten for jaunty and that this is the reason for the problems surfacing now [15:57] and that things will get better with karmic :p [15:57] hello everybody [15:57] im new to ubuntu [15:58] i have a copy of kubuntu 9.04 coming from shippit so i think i will do a clean install from that and try again [15:58] hello kuttans :) [15:59] mark___ have a look at this: might help with your freezing problem: http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2009/05/18/temporary-fix-for-keyboard-not-working-error-in-ubuntu-904/ === k4v is now known as m4v [15:59] it doesn't help solving the problem, but might avoid you the hard reset [16:00] ok i will have a look ....thanks kaddi [16:01] what would be a nice application for rss-feeds? I've been using thunderbird till now, but would like something independent === BluesKaj is now known as BluesKaj-gone [16:11] kaddi: My friend uses "planet" and he seems to like it fine. I can't give any review since I haven't used it kmyself [16:11] *myself [16:14] hola [16:14] !hi |juancarlos [16:14] juancarlos: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu! [16:15] genii thanks, I'll take a look :) [16:27] hi, how do i pipe the output from a program started with konsole in a file? kopete >> tmp.txt won't work. The messages are still shown in console [16:30] anyone know how to get pulseaudio working with flash/firefox? [16:42] hi all [16:42] by all [16:43] can anybody help me [16:43] !ask |tintintintin [16:43] tintintintin: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [16:45] i have an kubuntu jaunty instalation with LDAP and now im configuring the users profiles. How can i block the Desktop panels to the users when they connect? [16:50] Is there an update notifier for kde 4.2 task bar? [16:52] JuJuBee: you meen the thing with an "i"? [16:53] I have no thing with an I until I start a copy process or something and it tells me what is happening. [16:54] JuJuBee: Its in the beta 1 [16:55] ? [16:56] So do I have to update via cli manually now? [16:56] Are you talking about software updates? [16:56] JuJuBee: KDE 4.3 Beta 1 to be precise [16:58] JuJuBee: http://www.kubuntu.org/node/81 [16:59] ciao [17:00] !it | cuozzo5 [17:00] cuozzo5: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare) [17:04] robin0800: K, thanks. I can wait, just wanted to know if I was missing something... [17:05] JuJuBee- are you talking about software updates? [17:05] yes [17:05] Yes, there's a notifier program [17:05] I can sudo apt-get update and apt-get upgrade fine. [17:05] Where is the notifier ? [17:05] You should see a gear icon in the system tray when updates are available [17:06] Nope, I have never been notified of updates, yet am currently upgrading many packages at the moment... [17:08] Try running update-notifier-kde [17:08] Though it seems to be a bit broken for me at the moment [17:10] i have an kubuntu jaunty instalation with LDAP and now im configuring the users profiles. How can i block the Desktop panels to the users when they connect? === liberfiasco is now known as libervisco === yml_ is now known as yml [17:26] Can anyone help me with kdenlive? It crashes when launched === john is now known as Guest68138 === kostas is now known as enosis [18:17] Hello everyone === dyolph is now known as Hoshi-no-Kaabii [18:20] . [18:36] hello everybody, someone from brazil? [18:37] !br [18:37] Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Obrigado. [18:37] They left [18:38] ah, so they did [18:41] euh c'est où qu'on voit la liste des canals s'il-vous-plaît ? === erwin_ is now known as vaiursch === prefrontal_ is now known as prefrontal [18:45] euh c'est où qu'on voit la liste des canals s'il-vous-plaît ? !!!!!!! [18:45] !fr | dyolph [18:46] dyolph: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr === mateus_ is now known as CoiLeau === prefrontal is now known as secretservice === secretservice is now known as prefrontal [19:00] kmix(24902) Mixer::openIfValid: Mixer::open() detected master: "PCM:0" [19:00] anyone know what does it mean? [19:00] kmix(24902) Mixer::openIfValid: Mixer::open() detected master: "PCM:0" [19:00] i have no audio ... [19:01] i should restart to get it back [19:01] -.-'' [19:03] Meh, why doesnt the NetworkManager pick up the Wired connection i added to the list? [19:03] and still won't use the static configuration i added in the wired tab [19:10] Hi all [19:11] I am trying to install ogre 3d on my desktop [19:11] but when I get to compiling it from source, I get some errors [19:11] anybody can help? [19:13] here's what I am getting [19:13] http://pastebin.com/d1ff943c8 === mateus_ is now known as CoiLeau === CoiLeau is now known as mateusmelo === jacek_ is now known as jacek__ [19:17] so, how do I set it up so that I can easily move windows from one desktop to another? I would like to just be able to grab the title bar. Also, is there a keyboard shortcut? [19:21] jdu: kde will do that, or you can right click the decorator -> move to desktop x [19:22] anybody can help with ogre 3d? [19:23] ok, I just didn't see a way to enable it in the preferences (or with a quick google). Multiple clicks don't please me either. [19:24] generally I am rather keyboard oriented. [19:27] jdu: System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse > Global Keyboard Shortcuts > KWin, look for the "Window to Desktop #" actions [19:30] tsimpson: thanks! I had looked in the window management sections etc. but not there. ;/ [19:35] !pptp [19:35] Sorry, I don't know anything about pptp [19:35] Hey all [19:40] how do i create links between different folders like i could in gnome? i want it to go to another partition whenever it says ~/.wine [19:41] you want .wine to be on a different partition? [19:43] jdu: no, i just want it how it used to be set up wqhere the .wine directory linked to another partition that had more free space than my /home at the time [19:44] ralph: It was probably done by adding a line to /etc/fstab where ~/.wine would be a mount point for the other filesystem. === wojtek is now known as SeungFu [19:45] jdu: i did it via right-click menu in gnome, but the closest proxy in KDE i can't make heads or tails of [19:47] ok THAT time it worked it seems [19:47] ralph: I use gnome a lot, and i've never seen the option. Interesting. Well, If you have another partition to use, you can probably do it by copying .wine to the partition, adding it to /etc/fstab, and running: sudo mount -a [19:48] ralph: ok, good [19:48] do you remember where the option was in gnome? [19:48] jdu in a right-click menu [19:49] on the folder? [19:49] i just found how to use a similar option in KDE [19:49] yup [20:04] hi [20:05] very good side http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Intrepid#Add_repository_keys [20:38] hi.. need help with something... i installed kubuntu 9.04 and it looks bad.. i use yakuake and compiz but nothing seems to work very smooth.. even the graphics desktop in the old kubuntu i had i diferent from this 9.04.. it looks like the 8.04 remix with widgets and stuff [20:45] hi guys... because i did a mistake by typing sudo hal-disable-polling --device /dev/cdrom0 , now brasero dont see my dvd unit, how i can enable that ? === luis_ is now known as LuisJa [20:49] ei guysi have one problem using purplesurge java chat with firefox, the windows doesnt show, can someone help me? [20:51] ??? === bruno is now known as Guest67222 [20:53] ei guysi have one problem using purplesurge java chat with firefox, the windows doesnt show, can someone help me? === tsukasa_ is now known as tsukasa [20:59] Hi, does anyone know anything about the bluetooth device wizard [21:00] pulaski: what about it ? [21:00] (else than it does nearly nothing) [21:01] pulaski: if you want to do anything with bluetooth, your only hope is blueman [21:01] (or looking at bluetooth stack's source code.) [21:02] I just installed ubuntu 9.04 and I have a bluetooth enabled T-Mobile G1 cellphone that I am trying to connect to my computer [21:02] what do you mean with "to connect to"? [21:02] file exchange ? [21:02] internet connection ? [21:02] yes [21:02] some kind of interface [21:02] yes for which one ? /o\ [21:02] file exchange === javier is now known as teste [21:03] pulaski: you have the "send file" option on each side of the connection [21:03] (yes you have to do send file from the phone to send a file to the computer) [21:04] if you want better option you need obex support and afaik it hasn't been ported to kde4 yet === teste is now known as jm === jm is now known as javier === atilla is now known as atillux [21:05] hello what type of package i suspot to instll when an upgrade is available debian or hardy? [21:06] phh: thanks for responding. I'm searching ubuntu forums and the web generally looking for anything to try to get my computer to recognize this phone device. I have enabled bluetooth on my box using sudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth start but where do I go from there? [21:07] pulaski: you do have the bluetooth icon in systray ? === javier is now known as jjmd [21:08] no, my device icon only displays my thumbdrive as connected [21:08] not in device icon ... [21:08] systray [21:08] where you have the sound mixer [21:09] phh: no there is no icon in my systray [21:10] alt-f2, type kbluetooth4 and enter [21:10] it should appear [21:14] phh: thanks, that command tells me kbluetooth4 is already running [21:15] damn, second case [21:15] and i still have no idea what cause that [21:15] pulaski: you show all systray icons ? (some may be hidden) [21:15] hi I can't make a video dvd with k3b (from mpg file ) I got http://codepad.org/5lh1kSsn and its http://i44.tinypic.com/29wtvp.png [21:17] an the icon did briefly app appear in the as soon as I began to type bluethooh in the run command window but not in the systray. [21:17] mintux: i think you have to prepare the tree with dvdauthor [21:17] (or qdvdauthor for a gui) [21:17] pulaski: try installing blueman anyway [21:18] phh: Thanks I try that [21:20] phh I worked on mpg with dvdauthor ? [21:20] mintux: that's a statement or a question ? [21:20] phh sorry it's question [21:21] should I work ... ? [21:21] oh [21:21] qdvdauthor is more like just a script taking mpg as open and dvd structure as output [21:22] phh I installed dvdauthor [21:22] it's hard to wirk with it? [21:22] **work [21:22] no idea [21:22] but it's a cli [21:23] you'd better use qdvdauthor [21:23] hi, somebody suggested smplayer to me and I would like to try it. Just started it for the first time, it told me my mplayer was too old to work properly. I just checked apt-cache policy says mplayer is up to date:2:1.0~rc2-0ubuntu19. smplayer is 0.6.6-0ubuntu1. Do I need some special experimental release to use smplayer? What could be the problem? [21:24] kaddi: well, even if it's the last release, it's several months (meaning 2 years.) old [21:25] so yes it's kind of outdated [21:25] phh: ok, so how do I get the shiny new one? :D [21:25] you have to find mplayer build snapshots [21:25] :O [21:25] not sure how you're supposed to do [21:25] (i prefer rebuilding it by myself :D) [21:25] * shinygerbil sets reminder to stop being highlighted on the word "shiny" [21:25] * kaddi has never done that [21:26] kaddi: i think of two options: use debian multimedia (hoping it works for ubuntu), or searching for a ppa [21:26] is it easy? would it be a good program for a first try? is there a tutorial for that somewhere? [21:26] kaddi: ergh.. no. [21:26] you should really not begin with that one :p [21:26] ok :p [21:27] phh: or compile [21:27] ActionParsnip: building mplayer is far from being an easy task to do it correctly ... [21:27] phh: true but possible [21:29] someone that use midi keyboard ? [21:29] does this look like the ppa I would want for a newer version of mplayer: https://launchpad.net/~rvm/+archive/ppa ? (I'd say yes, but I'd like somebody to adhere, so I can blame him if things go wrong ;) ) [21:29] kaddi: maybe take a look at medibuntu [21:30] y is kubuntu so slow? [21:31] kaddi: it seems good to me [21:31] justin_: kde uses more reources than other DEs [21:31] but hum [21:31] no jaunty release [21:31] so it needs more then windows vista? [21:31] justin_: no way, way less [21:32] thats odd cause I got rid of vista for kubuntu and vista ran smooth but kubuntu is really choppy [21:32] kaddi: well, medibuntu is outdated, rvm's ppa isn't for jaunty [21:32] i guess you're gonna build it yourself [21:32] (if you really need it) [21:32] justin_: windows has greater driver support [21:33] phh: yes noticed that too.. but they do offer jaunty jackalope in the select menu for the display of the sources.list [21:33] ActionParsnip: ...in some cases [21:33] justin_: you will need to install and configure video drivers for your display [21:33] kaddi: i guess there is just no package in jaunty repo then [21:33] Tm_T: i'd say in most [21:33] where do I find those? [21:34] justin_: lspci | grep -i vga will tell you what you have, you can websearch from there === axel_ is now known as akeller [21:50] I guess, this is a very good article: http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reports/6757/1/ === diego is now known as Guest1862 [21:54] is there an equivalent of the ubuntu remix with kde? [21:54] how do i mount iso's in kubuntu? [21:54] http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Netbook+Plasma+Theme?content=92433 is nice but i'm not sure if it's what i'm looking for [21:55] !iso | iivv_ [21:55] iivv_: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning. [21:56] hi, a program (ktorrent) crashes on me (sigsegv 11), in the "KDE Crash Handler" dialog when i click details, it says "unable to create a valid backtrace", "This is probably because your packages are built in a way which prevents creation of proper backtraces" , is there anything i can do about that or is it a general problem ? === Guest1862 is now known as diego__ [21:58] ghouly: Does it only crash when you type in a url, or is it any command? === luis_ is now known as LuisJa [21:58] ghouly: you don't have the debugging packages installed [21:58] it crashes everytime when change max download speed via tray icon, there isn't a bugreport for that yet so i wanted to try an make one [21:59] what debug packages do i need ? ktorrent ones or generic ? [21:59] you'll want ktorrent-dbg and probably kdebase-runtime-dbg [21:59] i got a huge problem: i have a ps3, i like to play music with it, all my other music than i downloaded its from vista and works well, but 3 than i downloaded wtih linux, the ps3 says: not compatible, and its mp3, WTH???? i need help [21:59] (rather a large download in total) [21:59] ok, thanks, i'll try that =) [22:00] yeah, but i guess this wasn't the last crash i've seen in kde4, and since they made such a nice crash-handler dialog it might be worth it [22:00] how to use a .sh? [22:00] i need help pls [22:00] wine wants to open it, and thats wrong [22:00] ghouly: the crash handler was in KDE3 as well [22:00] they should add some info there about downloading the debug packages for the program though *g* [22:01] hmm, it was kinda different i think, just a bomb dialog or something, i don't remember exactly [22:01] this stacktrace thing seems to be a really good addition if it works [22:01] Anyone got experience with compcache .53 [22:01] KDE cant know if it's a distro package or compiled yourself, it can no know how to install packages or if your distro provides packages [22:02] a simple "try installing debug packages for the program" might help %) [22:02] i got a huge problem: i have a ps3, i like to play music with it, all my other music than i downloaded its from vista and works well, but 3 than i downloaded wtih linux, the ps3 says: not compatible, and its mp3, WTH???? i need help [22:03] ghouly: it cant know that it's a package, you may have compiled it yourself === C5552473 is now known as chalcedony [22:03] LuisJa: stop repeating that, if someone knows they'll reply [22:03] tsimpson: when i use the mount command to mount an iso to cdrom0, i get a 'specify filesystem type' error [22:04] i guess i should put in iso9660, but where [22:04] iivv_: try with "-t iso9660" [22:04] iivv_: Don't forget -o loop [22:05] i still get an error, although it looks like it gave it a try: wrong fs type, bad superblock... etc [22:06] iivv_: Have you verified the ISO isn't corrupt? [22:06] iivv_: what is the output of "file " ? (replacing with the file you want to mount) [22:06] i've used it on windows before [22:07] tsimpson: Deus Ex - GOTY Edition.iso: data [22:07] then it's not an ISO [22:07] it's either corrupt or some proprietary format [22:10] tsimpson: really??? ... how am i going to install deus ex... [22:10] kbntuchris: how would i go about verifying the iso [22:10] iivv_: Do you still have access to a windows box? [22:10] i dual boot [22:11] iivv_: You might try mounting it in windows, and ripping it to an iso... [22:11] ok [22:12] iivv_: I've run into .iso files that were actually .nrg for example, and somewhere along the line got renamed. Nero will notice it's not what it says and open it w/o issue..I wouldn't be suprised if Daemon Tools operates the same way... [22:18] how to check if your iso is or is not iso9660 [22:19] Phibes: use the "file" command, that'll print what type of data the file contains [22:19] k, thx [22:19] rld-sim3.iso: data [22:19] lol [22:20] anybody know of a way to know which directories from /home are unused by any programs? i used to run KDE over normal ubuntu (gnome) so i don't know how many files are left over for no reason [22:20] that's an unknown type, "data" [22:20] so it isnt 9660... damn [22:20] now i run pure KDE but my /home was in a seperate directory [22:21] so, am i correct in thinking terminal cant mount it? [22:21] seperate partition* [22:22] ralph: You could probably do something with last accessed time to determine what hasn't been touched since you switched to kde [22:23] ralph: I couldn't tell you an efficient way of doing it though : / [22:26] ralph: Maybe someone could help you running an ls through grep and grab dates before a certain date. If you mount your file system with noatime tho, then you'll need another route. [22:26] dolphin only has the ambiguous option to sort by date [22:26] who knows if that is date created or date accessed [22:26] Hi...Does someone have a clue, why my sound doesn't work, even though system-noises are played perfectly, but anything else is just noisily silent? [22:28] ralph: Yeh, you need to use ls -u in a konsole, or stat -c %x (filename) would do it per file... [22:30] eypherath, are the system noises coming from your boxes or your motherboard? [22:30] ralph: you might need ls -ul to get dates up [22:31] @Phibes: With noises I mean this ear piercing music playing at startup and shutdown... [22:31] ralph: you might need ls -Rul to get dates up will do it recursive, but I expect the output's gonna be a bit much to go through manually... [22:31] And it's coming from my boxes... [22:31] oh, dont have a clue then :P [22:31] good luck, im off [22:31] Thanks... [22:31] eypherath: had a similar issue, amarok and system sounds worked, movie players had no sound [22:33] eypherath: twiddling with preferences-sound somehow fixed the issue [22:33] Does anyone know if it matters where under my /lib/modules/my+kernel+ver+/ I dump modules, and if there's anything besides depmod -A I need to do after I drop it in? [22:34] kbntuchris: is this output sorted in anyway? [22:34] ralph: With just the options I gave you, no.. [22:35] ralph I know grep can sort/manipulate ls output and could be used to dump only the files not accessed since a certain date, but grep is something that I always need help to use myself : P Me and grep get into fights. [22:35] which is sad. it's amazingly useful. [22:36] anybody know how to use grep to submit a list of every director/file not used since a certain date? [22:36] @ilor I am trying to run amarok right now...Somehow doesn't want to play any files at all... [22:38] @ilor What exactly did you do to fix it? I am quite new to Kubuntu and KDE4... [22:38] ralph: Actually...Find is probably better. I just remembered it... [22:38] ralph: 'man find' should shed some light. [22:42] eypherath: I *think* I set it all to use pulseaudio and only then the test sound worked [22:43] kbntuchris: i used find -atime +10 > tendayoldfiles.txt [22:44] ralph: That should work =D [22:45] but keep in mind, a program might not touch EVERY file, but many usually have their own directory so if something in a dir tree was touched recently, the whole dir might belong to a program you still use. [22:45] @ ilor : I got it all set to use my soundcard and the test sound works...But the sound in video and flash still doesn't work...If amarok works, I do not know yet...Still trying to fix it.. [22:45] ralph: basically, back up your $home and hang on to it for a few days [22:45] hey, is the windows key still not usable as both a modifer _and_ regular key in kde4? [22:45] modifier [22:47] Just read this from the kde3 docs: [22:47] "This feature was removed for reasons of usability and accessibility, as well as keeping the code clean..." [22:47] wtf?! [22:47] iwo, by default, Win+(n) is used by Amarok [22:47] iwo, in KDE4 [22:47] @ ilor : Well...sound does not play, when I run the files with vlc... [22:47] ign0ramus: not sure I understand what you mean. by default the win key is a modifier key (Meta)... [22:48] iwo, oh, i thought you were asking if it could used as a modifier OR regular key [22:48] to get the win key to open the kde menu, i'd have remap to e.g. F13 (and the Win key will no longer be a modifier key) [22:48] mutually exclusive [22:49] iwo, it works as "meta+" , but now as a regular key, at least in my experience [22:49] *but not [22:49] iwo: One or the other, but not both at the same time... [22:49] from the docs: [22:49] "Previous versions of KDE provided a trick to allow you to use the Windows® key both as a modifier (so you could have shortcuts like Win+R), and as a regular key (so that pressing Win on its own could open the K menu)." [22:49] iwo: I feel your pain [22:50] why on earth was this feature removed, when practically every consumer keyboard on the planet now has this key?! [22:50] iwo: I imagine it could be patched back in..Maybe someone's got a patch out.. [22:50] 'to keep the code clean' is not a valid reason [22:51] good point kbntuchris, will keep searching [22:51] i dunno it makes sense to keep the windows key as a modifier-only key, unusual functionality can cause probelms i guess [22:52] iwo: Seems like something someone would miss enough to revert it. [22:53] As far as reasons to take it out, I would expect a better explanation than clean code as well. I never had buggy kde problems with it as both. Maybe it has something to do with VM compatibility? That's something I would expect to be distro specific though. Who knows what ye gods are thinking... [22:53] iwo, from an older post "you can change the signal sent by the window key from "mod4" to super_L and super_R (left and right windows keys)." [22:53] iwo, not sure if that still applies [22:55] ign0ramus: yeah, i don't quite understand that either (and other blogs that say similar things) - who has two windows keys?! [22:55] (or maybe only UK keyboards have 1?) [22:55] iwo: I've got 2 [22:55] iwo, my American laptops only have 1 [22:56] iwo: I've also got some key with a menu on it. [22:56] kbntuchris, that key is actually functional, though [22:56] am i missing something? or does Kubuntu not have a default app for opening .deb? [22:56] seems to be a right click [22:56] yup, exactly [22:56] ralph: It should use kpackagekit. [22:57] ralph, right click and open with kpackagkit. have the system remember the setting [22:57] ah i see, so super_L is the windows key, super_R is the 'context' key (right-click [22:57] ) [22:57] right [22:57] ...or left, i suppose ;) [22:58] :D [22:58] iwo, no, wait.. actually i think super_R is Right Windows Key and super_L is Left Windows Key [22:58] iwo, at least, that [22:58] 's what i took from it [22:58] does anyone really have a right windows key? [22:59] iwo, i sounded like kbntuchris does [22:59] iwo: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/219412 [22:59] funny thing is, alt-f1 doesn't work for me for some reason, on a fresh kubuntu 9.04 [23:02] iwo, afaik, it does not work after Intrepid [23:02] @ ilor: Well...Amarok works...At least playing online streams...^^ But playing sound files with vlc, playing video files and opening flash files results in deep, deep silence... [23:03] iwo, apparently, having a key that works as a meta key *and* a trigger for a particular action causes problems... http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154564#c7 [23:03] so how the **** do you get the menu to appear now >:@ [23:03] ?! [23:03] eypherath: can't really help you more since I don't understand the underlying issue, and git it fixed for me pretty much by chance [23:04] if i do switch the key to be a regular key (F13), i'm not sure how to actually map that to show the kde menu... [23:04] when i enter the keyboard shortcuts screen, there's no kde menu or kicker option, or anything else that will open the menu [23:05] does anyone know what it's called? [23:05] iwo: right click on the icon of the menu, settings, and there shortcut [23:05] iwo, see here: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3095141.msg134453#msg134453 [23:06] yeah, been reading that post - i'm not sure the same applies to kde4 tho... [23:07] i don't have a Regional & Accessibility menu option [23:07] iwo, you should in System Settings > Advanced [23:07] iwo, no wait, it's in General. sorry [23:08] iwo, if you type in "keyboard", it should be one of the options [23:08] it's under Keyboard & Mouse now [23:09] yeah, i have no Popup Launch Menu in that list though :-\ [23:09] under "Global Keyboard Shortcuts" and the "Plasma Workspace" component [23:09] tsimpson, it may be because i'm running kde 4.2.3, but there is a separate entry in System Settings for Regional & Accessibility [23:09] iwo: the way i told you works easier ... [23:09] ah, thanks tsimpson [23:10] ign0ramus: shouldn't that be "Regional & Language" ? [23:10] (it's easier and logicer btw) [23:10] ah yes, cheers phh, sorry, missed that one in the chat window :) [23:10] tsimpson, yes, that's what i meant, I just c/p'd the comment above ;) [23:11] ign0ramus: keyboard shortcuts aren't under that any more, it's in "Keyboard & Mouse" (where you'd expect it) [23:12] tsimpson: well, for the menu, you'll expect it in the menu settings... and it is there. [23:12] okay... and for some reason it doesn't work :'( [23:12] tsimpson, oh, i know... but iwo was saying he couldn't find the Regional & Language menu... [23:12] iwo: oh [23:13] opened the dialog, set the shortcut key by pressing windows key (F13 pops up in the box), press ok... [23:13] and nothing happens when i press the key :'( [23:13] iwo, you still have to remap the input of the Windows key [23:13] needs a restart of plasma maybe? [23:13] iwo: werid, for me it works [23:14] (well i use kde 4.3, but iirc it was the same for 4.2) [23:14] ign0ramus: yeah, I remapped to F13 using xmodmap [23:14] now when i press the key, 'F13' appears in the shortcut dialog (so it must be mapped right) [23:14] iwo, and still nothing? [23:15] iwo: mmm maybe not [23:15] it can still be a modifier [23:15] (i looked at the xmodmap man and it seems weird) [23:16] ...just trying some other keys to see if any key combo works [23:19] yeah, other key combos work, but not F13 [23:20] iwo: can you paste xmodmap results? [23:23] pasted here: http://pastebin.com/d3c12426b [23:23] i used xev to get the keycode [23:24] iwo: no, i mean the answer of the xmodmap command [23:25] it's silent, when I run with -verbose, i get the output at that url [23:25] ?!? [23:25] you should get something like: [23:25] shift Shift_L (0x32), Shift_R (0x3e) [23:25] lock Caps_Lock (0x42) [23:25] control Control_L (0x25), Control_R (0x69) [23:25] sorry, i thought you meant the output that i get when mapping the key :D [23:26] http://pastebin.com/d56284125 [23:27] iwo: and xmodmap -pk |grep 133 [23:28] 133 0xffca (F13) [23:28] damned [23:29] iwo: ok you can try restarting plasma. [23:29] :) [23:30] or you can use alt-f1 shortcut as everyone windows-less does. [23:30] phh, alt+f1 never worked for me on Jaunty [23:31] ign0ramus: you can set the shortcut how you want ... [23:31] yeah, i guess so. unfortunately (like most people), i don't have the luxury of using a kde desktop wherever i go (which is why i'd like to be able to map keys to do what the rest of the known world does)... [23:31] just works fine here if setted [23:31] phh, what command do you have it bound to? [23:31] but that's a kde problem :) [23:32] ign0ramus: right click on the menu plasmoid, settings, shortcut [23:33] phh, maybe i'm missing something... right-click on the kmenu icon on the panel? [23:33] yep [23:33] phh, "application launcher menu settings"? [23:33] yes [23:34] phh, ahh... i see now [23:34] :-) [23:34] phh, as xmodmap is dependent on X, i'm going to restart X and see if my changes have taken effect [23:34] ign0ramus: YO [23:34] draik, brb dude [23:35] draik, sup? [23:36] phh, no go... it sets back to "meta+" :( [23:37] ign0ramus: Nothing much. Trying to write my own shell script but I can't get it to execute anything based on user input. [23:37] yep, i never succeded using this damn key for anything else than meta [23:37] phh, in fact, my keyboard was frozen upon restarting of X... I had to use the alt+f7 trick to get keyboard back [23:37] draik, a script to do what? [23:38] ign0ramus: Many things. It's more of a shortcut to update/upgrade, backups, du, df, etc. [23:39] draik, using aliases or full commands? [23:39] ign0ramus: Full commands. [23:39] if anyone wants to help get this fixed, you could vote here: [23:39] https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154564 [23:39] draik, ok... i actually stole many of your aliases (sorry), but I found that aliases don't register as the actual commands for many things [23:40] just signup (only need an email, no other details), then log in and click vote (and assign 20 votes :)) [23:40] My aliases are for all to own/share, so don't apologize. [23:40] draik, i use 'dg' on a semi-hourly basis ;) [23:40] draik, mostly for the xorg-edgers PPA... they update frequently [23:40] I have changed it to 'up' on this server, netbook and 2 other computers. [23:41] draik, for update && upgrade? [23:41] ign0ramus: Why not create the 'dg' as a cron job? [23:41] ign0ramus: Yes. for update && upgrade [23:41] draik, never even thought of it :D [23:42] ign0ramus: Good alcohol, huh? [23:42] draik, i would assume a terminal would have to be open for the cron job to work, eh? [23:42] ign0ramus: Nope. [23:42] draik, the Glenlivet always treats me well :) === yml_ is now known as yml [23:47] ign0ramus: So yeah. I've been beating myself senseless trying to figure out what I'm doing wrong. [23:48] draik, feel like pasting the script? [23:50] ign0ramus: Sure thing. How again? [23:50] I'm on the server, not GUI [23:50] does anyone know how i can check what kde version i'm using? or does anyone already know what the version currently included in kubuntu 9.04 is? [23:51] draik, pastebinit? [23:51] iwo: KDE4, but you can always check by going to Konqueror > Help > About [23:51] ign0ramus: Sorry. I meant to ask for the syntax of pastebinit [23:51] BTW, do you have my [23:52] draik, i've never actually used it... :/ [23:52] BTW, do you have my 'sagi' alias? [23:52] draik, that's a new one [23:52] sagi - Sudo Apt-Get Install [23:53] Lowercase, of course, but just showing my reasoning [23:54] draik, got it, i just aliased it to 'get' [23:54] draik, syntax: pastebinit -i /etc/X11/xorg.conf http://rafb.net [23:54] ign0ramus: I have the link, gimme a sec to go from TTY1 to TTY2 [23:55] draik, k [23:55] http://pastebin.com/f60ab57b0 [23:56] draik, can you even get the first echo question to print? [23:56] All of that works [23:56] draik, well then what? [23:57] I get to the input [23:57] Then at the prompt, pfft [23:57] Enter whatever you want and it terminates [23:57] hmm.... [23:57] ign0ramus: Sorry. I just ran it again. This latest revision gives errors [23:58] All of the echos work, but I get errors about the commands [23:58] compile and see for yourself [23:58] draik, i was going to ask about that... [23:58] draik, instead of labeling, if you just give the direct command, does it make a difference? [23:58] g++ -o file.sh MyScript [23:58] draik, for testing purposes, of course [23:59] ign0ramus: I don't want it to run, I want it to assign it to the letter of my choice and then run when told to do so. [23:59] draik, i know, but i'm wondering if you're labeling is causing the fault [23:59] *your labeling