[00:29] <fta> i want that chromium build.. hurry
[00:29] <BUGabundo1> ehhe
[00:30] <fta> https://edge.launchpad.net/builders/sandpaperfig
[00:57] <fta> damned
[07:20] <micahg> hi gnomefreak
[07:20] <micahg> how are you?
[07:22] <gnomefreak> hi micahg im ok and yourself?
[07:22] <micahg> ok
[07:23] <gnomefreak> its was too damn early
[07:26] <micahg> what was?
[07:28] <gnomefreak> micahg: right now it is. its ~02:30
[07:28] <micahg> ah
[07:28] <micahg> indeed
[08:01] <gnomefreak> why do people think they need to say "this happens to me too" since that bug has 50+ people that already said it and sees the bug :(
[08:07] <micahg> well, in other forums that seems to be the general practice
[08:07] <micahg> they are not used to such an advanced forum as LP with the option to select without saying
[08:08] <micahg> bugday had some success
[08:08] <micahg> http://people.ubuntu.com/~brian/complete-graphs/firefox-3.0/plots/firefox-3.0-1day-triaging.png
[08:09] <micahg> I was just going to ignore those people gnomefreak
[08:09] <micahg> I guess that's bad :(
[08:11] <gnomefreak> its too early to ignore people atm. Thats true about they do it in other forums but that still doesnt sound logival. for example the right click master bug. people are still stating they see it. hint: look at the number of comments read 3 and you will know what you are looking at :(
[09:20] <BUGabundo> guud morning, FLOSS world!
[09:42] <gnomefreak> bug 78593
[09:51] <BUGabundo> hey gnomefreak
[09:51] <BUGabundo> did you already have the eye surgery?
[09:52] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: hi, no first one looks to be on june 8th however that may change since i cant go 14+hrs without eating or drinking due to diabetes
[09:52] <BUGabundo> err
[10:30] <gnomefreak> one of these days before my surgery i have to figure out how to use hg for pre-release sunbird so we can get testing. all my other tries have failed
[12:15] <henux> hello and excuse me; this probably isn't the best place to ask but does anyone know what would be the best place to ask questions on writing mozilla firefox/thunderbird add-ons with XUL?
[13:04] <fta> henux, irc://irc.mozilla.org/extdev is a better place
[13:04] <fta> https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Extensions
[13:34] <henux> okay thanks
[13:59] <BUGabundo> uau
[13:59] <BUGabundo> he lasted 1h30 for that fta and then just left
[13:59] <BUGabundo> eheh
[13:59] <BUGabundo> brave man
[14:05] <fta> well
[14:26] <fta> bug 364074
[14:26] <fta> bug 364074
[14:26] <fta> pfff
[14:27]  * BUGabundo kicks the bot!
[14:27] <BUGabundo> fta try again
[14:27] <BUGabundo> bug 364074
[14:27] <BUGabundo> see? nothing like a little push ... with an hammer
[14:29] <fta> yeah
[14:35] <BUGabundo> fta: why not vlc?
[14:41] <fta> vlc? to record what's happening on the desktop?
[14:43] <BUGabundo> fta: yep!
[14:43] <BUGabundo> it won't allow you to choose just a part, but the all screen
[14:43] <BUGabundo> AFAIK
[14:44] <BUGabundo> I used to stream it to the web for lectures
[14:44] <fta> not what i want then, i want parts
[14:45] <fta> gtk-recordmydesktop is already the newest version.
[14:45] <fta> hmm
[14:51] <BUGabundo> !firefox
[15:22] <BUGabundo> fta: which PPAs have chromium?
[15:24] <FLjohn> Hello
[15:24] <FLjohn> I am having a problem with all video streaming
[15:25] <FLjohn> Since I am now using edubuntu there have been problems.  All video is blacked out
[15:25] <FLjohn> Except for youtube and a few others
[15:28] <BUGabundo> Estimated repository size: 20.0 GiB (100.00%) of 20.0 GiB
[15:28] <BUGabundo> LOL fta
[15:28] <BUGabundo> still full?
[16:25] <fta> BUGabundo, yes, each build is ~8.1GB, so i need 3 times that if i want 2 dailies + 1 fix in between, about 25G
[18:22] <asac> hola
[18:25] <fta> lo
[18:27] <fta> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/db4.6/+builds needs to be fixed before i can update ia32libs
[18:29] <asac> checking
[18:30] <asac> hmmm configure: error: No unsigned 1-byte integral type
[18:31] <fta> http://paste.ubuntu.com/178076/
[18:32] <asac> hmm
[18:32] <asac> thats the config.log?
[18:32] <fta> yes
[18:32] <BUGabundo> hey asac..
[18:32] <asac> hi BUGabundo
[18:33] <asac> fta: that looks a bit like the headers are kind of out of sync
[18:33] <fta> asac, aren't they all from libc6-dev?
[18:39] <fta> more new icons: https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa
[18:39] <asac> fta: odd ... i would thought that some libc aders come from the kernel
[18:40] <asac> fta: damn ... not rest here ... didnt notice its so late again. have to run out again.  end of allhands drink/dinner started already :(
[18:40] <asac> fta: i will ask doko
[18:40] <asac> ;)
[18:41] <fta> enjoy :)
[18:41] <fta> and thanks
[18:41] <asac> fta: do you arrive on sunday?
[18:41] <fta> yes, around 2pm at the airport
[18:41]  * BUGabundo thinks fta is envying all the party at barça
[18:41] <asac> lol
[18:41] <asac> its really just party in the night
[18:41] <BUGabundo> fta: lots to due at the office?
[18:41] <fta> no office today, i worked from home
[18:41] <asac> we have soo many obligatory sessions here that i didnt even read any mails in the last three days
[18:42] <asac> so cu tomorrow most likely
[18:42] <asac> if doko knows something that we can fix somehow, i will come back and let you know
[18:42] <asac> but i guess he has to look
[18:42] <fta> ok
[18:45] <fta> BUGabundo, #  Estimated repository size: 16.5 GiB (82.49%) of 20.0 GiB  maybe it will be enough to let it pass
[18:51] <BUGabundo> why don't you ask the LP admins for extra space?
[18:52] <fta> BUGabundo, https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+question/62386
[18:56] <BUGabundo> aahahhahahahahahahahahhahahaahaahahhahahahahahahahahhahahaahaahahhahahahahahahahahhahahaahaahahhahahahahahahahahhahahaahaahahhahahahahahahahahhahahaahaahahhahahahahahahahahhahahaahaahahhahahahahahahahahhahahaahaahahhahahahahahahahahhahahaah
[18:56] <BUGabundo> I lauching like crazy here
[18:56] <BUGabundo> glad no one is around
[18:56] <BUGabundo> I don't see it for 20GiBs
[18:57] <fta> i never got 15, jumped to 20 directly
[18:57] <BUGabundo> ahaahahah
[18:58] <BUGabundo> if I die, from lauching, ill haunt you
[18:58] <fta> dying from that is a good death
[18:59] <BUGabundo> do you have any idea where I can ask for help with my @ubuntu email address?
[18:59] <fta> -lauching+laughing
[18:59] <BUGabundo> I tried rt@ubuntu.com but it disappear
[19:00] <fta> just ping dholbach, he'll know who's behind this
[19:01] <BUGabundo> he is allhands
[19:01] <BUGabundo> won't see it
[19:01] <BUGabundo> then again I have all the time in the world
[20:23] <fta> -chromium-browser (2.0.182.0~svn20090521r16618-0ubuntu1) UNRELEASED; urgency=low
[20:23] <fta> +chromium-browser (3.0.182.0~svn20090522r16750-0ubuntu1) UNRELEASED; urgency=low
[20:23] <fta> !!
[20:24] <micahg> wow
[21:17] <fta> hmm firefox-3.5 - 3.5~hg20090522r25692+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1
[21:17] <fta> no more 3.5~b5~xx
[21:18] <BUGabundo> yay
[21:19] <fta> no tag, it has to be a RC of some kind
[21:21] <micahg> they said they were close to RC
[21:21] <micahg> I thought it was next week though
[21:23] <fta> it's not there yet, they just bumped the version in trunk, it doesn't mean it's released
[21:25] <micahg> ok
[21:25] <micahg> yeah
[21:25] <micahg> release date of RC1 I think is May 29
[21:28] <micahg> I was just thinking how the beta version of FF is more stable than Jaunty
[21:29] <micahg> the daily builds
[21:29] <micahg> at least from my use of it
[21:29] <fta> eheh
[21:34] <fta> 3.5pre, that's it
[21:35] <micahg> that's what it says
[21:35] <micahg> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1pre) Gecko/20090522 Ubuntu/9.04 (jaunty) Shiretoko/3.5pre
[21:47] <gnomefreak> ironicly i expect a bash command to listen to me yet i cant even get my g/f to listen to me :(
[21:48] <micahg> at least bash will follow instructions if you specify them correctly :)
[21:48] <gnomefreak> command |tee  2>&1 build-log.txt  << should pipe output of standard out and standard error to file but it doesnt do that while building. it picks nad chooses wha to pipe where
[21:49] <gnomefreak> micahg: i wish it did
[21:49] <micahg> no
[21:49] <gnomefreak> no?
[21:49] <micahg> try command 2>^1 | tee build-log.txt
[21:49] <BUGabundo> gnomefreak: sudo make me sandwish?
[21:49] <micahg> command 2>&1 | tee build-log.txt
[21:49] <gnomefreak> oh
[21:49] <gnomefreak> oops
[21:49]  * gnomefreak does to try
[21:50] <micahg> you were piping the errors of tee to the file :)
[21:50] <BUGabundo> gnomefreak: http://xkcd.com/149/
[21:50] <micahg> the only reason I know that is because asac gave me a command similar to that :)
[21:50] <gnomefreak> ah
[21:51] <gnomefreak> i did it backwards now i remember the command  :(
[21:51] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: :)
[21:53] <gnomefreak> maybe wednesday will be next update, i have other crap i can work on lets see where i get with email nad updates maybe ill hit an extension or 3
[21:54] <micahg> well, I'm working this weekend, so not too much triage for me
[21:56] <micahg> gnomefreak: do you patch firefox itself at all?
[21:56] <gnomefreak> micahg: i can but im not actively working on firefox
[22:00] <gnomefreak> if you stop following someone on mozillas bug tracker it doesnt stop the emails coming in
[22:01] <micahg> ah
[22:01] <gnomefreak> hes not here. hes always here
[22:01] <micahg> is that a bug in bugzilla?
[22:01] <gnomefreak> micahg: yes alot of them
[22:02] <micahg> does it subscribe you to the issues that the person is involved in?
[22:02] <gnomefreak> micahg: i was following asac reed and gerv well i started gettting 200+ emails a few times a day so i dropped fololowing gerv and im still getting 200+ a day.
[22:03] <micahg> well, are some of them watched by multiple people inthat group?
[22:03] <gnomefreak> example this morning ~12 hours ago i had ~230 amnd another 141 now just bugs that are fololowing them
[22:03] <gnomefreak> micahg: you can follow single people's bugs comments
[22:03] <micahg> ah
[22:04] <gnomefreak> reed is handy to follow at least for me
[22:05] <gnomefreak> micahg: you had to bring up patching didnt you
[22:05] <micahg> why :(
[22:05] <gnomefreak> i have been forgetting about this patch, i wanted to test it before it landed
[22:05] <gnomefreak> 1st email on this bug in a week or 2
[22:06] <gnomefreak> its the reply to all patch
[22:06] <gnomefreak> mozilla 45715
[22:07] <gnomefreak> ubottu: thanks
[22:07] <micahg> beer ubottu
[22:08] <micahg> hmmm
[22:08] <micahg> guess that didn't work
[22:09] <gnomefreak> if you mark a bug in Lp upostream please add Lp bug link to upstream bug. I dont know if you have been or not this is just a request
[22:10] <micahg> I have been :)  I was worried about flooding upstream
[22:10] <gnomefreak> im looking for the LP bug in upstream report and cant find it (this is one i should have done)
[22:10] <micahg> I just saw that bug somewhere
[22:10] <gnomefreak> its always good to do incase they need more info that isnt on upstream bug but is on LP bug
[22:11] <micahg> bug 52667
[22:11] <gnomefreak> thanks
[22:12] <micahg> I was thinking of going through the mozilla-thunderbird package before the bugday next week for TB
[22:14] <micahg> is that worthwhile, or should I focus on FF
[22:14] <gnomefreak> micahg: i would love to see someone on tb bugs at least to maybe knock them down a bit
[22:15] <micahg> well, I figure if I can move the ones for TB2 to the TB pacakge
[22:15] <micahg> then the Bugday can work on them
[22:15] <gnomefreak> there shouldnt be a tb2 package it should only be mozilla-thunderbird
[22:15] <micahg> no, it's thunderbird now
[22:15] <micahg> mozilla-thunderbird was 1.5
[22:16] <gnomefreak> it is?
[22:16] <micahg> yep
[22:16] <micahg> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird
[22:16] <gnomefreak> this is bad. i really need to work this out its getting old
[22:16] <micahg> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mozilla-thunderbird
[22:17] <micahg> actually ubottu should kow
[22:17] <gnomefreak> micahg: its fine please do that. 1.5 is no longer supported by us or mozilla so they can be closed if not reproducible in 2.0
[22:17] <micahg> !info mozilla-thunderbird
[22:17] <gnomefreak> see
[22:17] <BUGabundo> fta: LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL n*8 (for now)
[22:17] <gnomefreak> thunderbird == 3.0
[22:17] <fta> BUGabundo, ??
[22:17] <gnomefreak> see your ~/.thunderbird-3.0 or ~/.mozilla-thunderbird
[22:17] <micahg> gnomefreak: what about dapper?
[22:18] <BUGabundo> fta: the ticket for PPA quota
[22:18] <gnomefreak> but either way we should really keep names the asme if possible
[22:18] <gnomefreak> micahg: its not supported
[22:18] <micahg> Ubuntu is still supposed to do security patches for another month
[22:18] <gnomefreak> micahg: dapper EOS is soon no sense in patching it now
[22:18] <micahg> ok
[22:18] <gnomefreak> micahg: ther eis no tb1.5 security
[22:18] <micahg> ok
[22:19] <fta> BUGabundo, what do you want me to tell instead?
[22:19] <gnomefreak> fta: can you decline nominations on bugs?
[22:19] <micahg> so this weekend I'll work on the mozilla-tb package instead of ff
[22:19] <fta> gnomefreak, i think so
[22:19] <micahg> gnomefreak: yes, it's been done to me many times :)(
[22:19] <gnomefreak> fta: bug 52667 should reject hardy
[22:19] <BUGabundo> fta: nothing... I just found it funny
[22:20]  * gnomefreak should really figure out what i need to declidne they and try to get it :(
[22:21] <gnomefreak> fta: im going to try a locale build of tb3 with reply to all patch if it works maybe we can patch dailies? atleast until its commited. this is the one bug i have been following most
[22:21] <fta> gnomefreak, apparently, i can't either.
[22:22] <fta> gnomefreak, asac was against the idea, he mentioned an addon
[22:22] <gnomefreak> oh ok well than ill build it localy for me
[22:22] <gnomefreak> or ill package it as .xpi even better
[22:23] <gnomefreak> alot harder but better
[22:23] <fta> and i prefer to keep the dailies as pristine as possible, ok to fix build issues but not to add features we would like to have
[22:24] <fta> someone could still fork the package and add as many patches from bmo as possible, to create a monster, but it means dropping the name & branding
[22:26] <gnomefreak> fta: thats fine i will look into making it .xpi and i will patch SM with the test patch for now. maybe next week or so
[22:32] <micahg> I might as well ask the Q now, are the FF -dev packages supposed to have any files in them besides the Copyright and debian.tar.gz?
[22:34] <gnomefreak> yes i would think so but honestly i have never looked
[22:35] <fta> micahg, which package?
[22:35] <gnomefreak> micahg: downloading to make sure
[22:35] <micahg> firefox-3.0-dev
[22:36] <fta> not really, it's in xul -dev now, but ff -dev is still used by some packages so we had to keep it
[22:37] <micahg> ok
[22:37] <micahg> there was a bug about hardy ff-dev having no files
[22:37] <micahg> that's been fixed
[22:37] <micahg> but I wanted to make sure there weren't any other issues
[22:37] <fta> well
[22:38] <fta> upstream provides no -dev files in firefox when it is built with the xul sdk, if some files are needed, it's an upstream bug, but as building ff with xul sdk is not really supported upstream, it's a catch 22
[22:48] <gnomefreak> shit forgot about dog
[22:58] <gnomefreak> hm cam no longer automounts or shows up at all to mount
[22:59] <gnomefreak> anyone use the app bugzilla?
[23:00] <gnomefreak> might be my fault
[23:02] <gnomefreak> ok cam mounts right noiw
[23:04] <micahg> gnomefreak: I have a Q about assignigng bugs
[23:04] <gnomefreak> micahg: shoot
[23:04] <micahg> if a bug is in xulrunner, should the package and upstream be xulrunner?
[23:04] <gnomefreak> micahg: is it a bug in xulrunner?
[23:04] <micahg> well, I look upstream at bugzilla
[23:04] <gnomefreak> if upstream says it is in xulrunner ours should match
[23:05] <micahg> and if I don;t see options for selecting FF, I assume the bug is in xulrunner
[23:05] <gnomefreak> micahg: can you give example?
[23:06] <micahg> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=388195
[23:06] <gnomefreak> micahg: people that file bugs may not be sure what package itis in
[23:06] <micahg> ok, you're ssaying in bugzilla as well
[23:07]  * gnomefreak not sure but that should be in firefox but lets see hwat i find out once link opens
[23:07] <micahg> well, that bug is for the underlying support which is in xulrunner
[23:07] <micahg> AFAIK
[23:08] <micahg> the LP bug might be more appropriate in FF though
[23:08] <micahg> that's the weird thing
[23:09] <micahg> and I didn't add the LP bug to this :(
[23:09] <micahg> but you're saying that if it's appropriate
[23:09] <micahg> the appropriate project should be used
[23:10] <gnomefreak> the first diff shows it in browser from what i can tell. AFAIK xulrunner does nothing on netwroking end
[23:10] <micahg> ah
[23:10] <micahg> maybe that's my confusion
[23:10] <micahg> NSS handles network, right?
[23:11] <micahg> do we have an NSS project/package
[23:11] <micahg> in LP?
[23:11] <gnomefreak> yes we have nss and nspr nowever nss deals with security related to networking but not sure if it handles networking directly
[23:11] <fta> https://edge.launchpad.net/nss
[23:11] <gnomefreak> micahg: in LP yes
[23:12] <gnomefreak> fta: nss doesnt handle gophor does it?
[23:12] <micahg> ok, so, should I just leave FF stuff in FF if I'm notsure
[23:12] <gnomefreak> micahg: yes if we dont know :)
[23:12] <micahg> ok
[23:12] <gnomefreak> what is LP bug number?
[23:12] <micahg> yeah, I just saw today that there are multuple libraries behind FF
[23:13] <micahg> bug 297837
[23:13] <micahg> not directly related
[23:13] <micahg> well
[23:14] <micahg> that's probably why I didn';t link it
[23:14] <gnomefreak> http should be FF directly nss would use htpps IIRC
[23:14] <micahg> ok
[23:14] <micahg> I think I'll leave things simple for now
[23:14] <micahg> when I delve into FF more, I can learn what goes where
[23:15] <gnomefreak> seems upstream is using xulrunner
[23:15]  * micahg has to go home
[23:28] <fta> no green chromium today, i'm over quota for the fix
[23:29] <gnomefreak> green?
[23:29] <fta> successful build
[23:31] <gnomefreak> ah