[00:07] hello [00:07] Will my ban on #ubuntu-offtopic be lifted today? [00:08] anyone home? [00:08] one sec [00:08] k [00:08] its ikonia's ban, you'll need to speak to him [00:09] We're no longer on speaking terms. He did say if someone wants to lift it, they can [00:10] okay then. bye [00:37] Oh, ban in -ot [00:46] sigh, what on earth is Mack's problem? [00:46] Anyone awake with ops here? I'd like to invite him [00:46] Flannel: eh? who? [00:47] Maybe it's nothing. Just review the past... however long with Mack* in #u [00:47] I'm not really sure what Mack|Logger is all about. [00:54] that is a bit odd [00:58] and now Mack|Logger [00:58] * mneptok twitches [00:58] there's always the good ol' method of "could you please join #ubuntu-ops for a minute" [00:58] someone give me a reason not to ban him [00:58] which usually works better anyway since invites end up in status windows that people don't see [00:59] mneptok: he hasn't done anything special? [00:59] he was asked to not change nicks when away, and decided chaning nicks when away would be a good response [00:59] mneptok: He hasn't changed nicks yet, just... joined with another client. Which, while odd, isn't changing nicks. [01:00] ah, roght [01:00] *right [01:00] you could kick him for cloning if you want a reason. [01:00] I'd rather just resolve the issue than kick/ban/whatever. [01:00] i'd agree. [01:01] mneptok: If/when he replies, invite him here for that conversation. It's not really #ubuntu fodder [01:01] my bet is he wants the channel logged, but doing that with his normal client would result in away nicks [01:01] LjL: His away nick was set by him personally [01:01] He'd do /away and then /nick [01:01] Which was the source of his original "Nuh Uh!" when I asked him to turn off his client's away nick change thing. [01:03] annoying fellow, anyway. [01:04] by the way, i believe Thons was spamming [01:05] Indeed, I missed it entirely. [02:31] is it okay if I maintain 1000 clones in #ubuntu and answer "yes" with all of them when someone asks "does anyone use X?"? [02:32] Only if they also respond to 'is anyone here?' [02:36] +1 [02:36] Although, I say make it 47 instead of 1000. [02:39] Flannel: any particular reason for 47 over 46? [02:40] jrib: 47 is prime. [02:41] at least go with 57 :) [02:42] 57 isn't prime [02:42] grothendieck prime [02:42] What on earth? [02:43] We could go with 59, is that acceptable? [02:43] http://foreigndispatches.typepad.com/dispatches/2004/12/grothendieck_pr.html [02:43] Ah, I thought you had something caught in your throat. [02:45] jrib: floodbots would stop them :( [02:45] well i was just going to pm [02:48] LjL: not if we program it into the floodbots! [02:48] i like pm [03:08] In #ubuntu, Classic said: ubottu, which is lts [04:43] hello [06:45] * genii slides bazhang a coffee [06:45] thanks genii :) better stick to tea though [06:46] bazhang: I'll remember tea next time for you. :) [06:47] Well, 1:45 AM-ish, so I'm out for sleep. Gnite [06:47] Night [06:47] night [07:29] irssi-proxy <3 [07:30] makes IRC a bit less painful on dialup [07:41] Myrtti, dialup? eww [07:41] phoneirc <3 [07:42] elky: I'm at my mums, she doesn't have zee interwebs [07:42] i thought you kids had funky wireless broadband and stuff [07:43] elky: sure - but if I'm doing apt-file update at the same time, ssh connection gets a bit less priority and is damn flaky [07:43] elky: I'm paying only for the lowest 3G speed [07:43] ah [07:44] ah, they limit you by speed rather than quota? [07:45] elky: http://saunalahti.fi/gsm/mobiililaajakaista.php [07:46] i see numbers, but i lack context. [07:46] yeah i have the same deal iirc, 10€/m unlmited but capped at 384kpbs [07:46] elky: those are the only relevant numbers [07:46] it's Just Fast Enough(TM) [07:46] no monthly quota, no subscription fee, no quota capping [07:47] I had 512 when I worked from here a year ago [07:47] but now, for occasional SIP call, general mobile webpage surfing... [07:47] 384 is enough [07:47] "fast enough" meaning you can do internet radio and sip calls are tolerable [07:47] maaaan. i can only dream of that. here i pay $20/mth for 1gb that gets somewhere between 40kbs and if i'm on the harbour bridge, 2mb/s [07:48] it's the speed that kills the internets, not the amount of data used ;-) [07:48] yeah [07:48] if you trickle your data with 40kbs, it doesn't matter how much of it you transfer [07:48] if i had deals like that here, i'd probably not bother with wired intarwebs [07:49] there's some people that are unsubscribing their wired nets [07:49] phone companies are rolling in their copper in the outskirts [07:49] Myrtti, are you finding that t61 sometimes makes you play a 3 min song a second time to get the required 'minute' for hearting? [07:50] you're either using mobile broadband, or pay €€€€€€€ for copper [07:50] elky: there's some issues there that t61 isn't good with [07:51] I can't get the Night Owl done no matter what time I listen to it [07:51] and by magic did the Evangelist quest, it's a bit buggy [07:51] right now the fastest mobile broadband is around 5Mbps (theoretical maximum). no iptv and such would work [07:51] I've got friends that have like 7 accepted invitations, but they show up as 4/5 in the quest [07:52] topyli, which doesnt worry me since i dont watch tv [07:52] oh ok :) [07:53] that was a weird experience [07:55] ? [07:55] tried to install a theme to irssi and it went unresponsive for a while [07:58] elky: could you tell me the most expensive jewellry stores in Sydney? [07:59] jussi01, i have no idea. [07:59] heh [08:03] * Myrtti wears the most exquisite necklace made of recycled plastic bags and soda cans [08:04] (which is brilliant since I hate yellow gold and can't wear silver) [08:10] but yeah - the fact that even the lowest bandwidth of 3G broadband can carry a sip phone call is quite <3 [08:14] http://www.flickr.com/photos/myrtti/3361773177/ [08:36] gents did something happen during the night ? [08:36] my screen session for ikonia has totally hung ? [08:36] (I can't see the logs obviously) [08:37] what is the last time you can see? [08:37] nothing, can't re-attatch to that screen session [08:37] all my others are fine [08:38] if there is nothing obvious, thats fine [08:38] ooh bad lage too 186 seconds to sync #ubuntu-ops [08:38] lage ? lag [08:38] nothing in here, apart from TheFunkBomb looking for you [08:38] how odd [08:39] or rather, thefunkbomb looking to be unbanned [08:39] guys I'll kill my old session and re-join [08:39] how annoying [08:41] oooh [08:41] it looks like it's working now, it had just hung [08:41] ahh yes [08:42] much better [08:43] wb [08:47] !latest [08:47] Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are: fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports. [08:49] oh btw [08:49] should the fixdccexploit have a paragraph about quassel? [08:49] jussi01: ^ [09:42] someone with -ot is likely going to have to remove gregoryj in not too long. [09:43] ok [09:43] watching [09:43] Flannel: has he been warned ? [09:43] ikonia: pm [09:44] okey dokey [09:44] ikonia: well, he was just told to join -offtopic from #u, where he was doing the same thing I imagine he'll be doing in -ot [09:44] but, no, I don't think he's been warned. [09:44] He claims genuine interest, we'll see. [09:45] ok [09:45] shout if you want [09:45] Flannel, you're still not on the -ot list? [09:45] elky: Nay [09:45] suffer! [09:45] you do now. [09:46] Aye [09:46] i'm sick of waiting 6 months to get people on that ops list. [09:46] I won't tell anyone! [09:46] oh wait, we're logged. [09:46] quick, help! ^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^^HH^^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HH^H^H^^HH^^HH^^H [09:47] Oh, it's not working. [09:47] and i have sinus headache and i have no patience tonight [09:53] elky: green anadin - it's the future [09:54] ibuprofen? [09:55] @mark IndyGunFreak still has political propaganda in quit message. has been asked to change via memoserv [09:55] The operation succeeded. [09:55] correct [09:55] topyli: just forward him here if he's not picking up the memo [09:55] Have you verified he's gotten it via... nevermind [09:56] Flannel: i just sent it now :) [09:56] i took a codral night, just waiting for it to kick in... (psudoephedrine hydrochloride, triprolidine hydrochloride, paracetamol) figured it was worth the paracetamol hangover tomorrow. [09:56] speak of the devil! [09:57] which one? [09:57] which one would you like? [09:59] none [10:01] paracetamol hangover? that's more likely to to be a pseudoephedrin hangover then... [10:08] Mamarok, i'm sensitive to paracetamol. more than 1 a day has me feeling badly hungover the next day. if i take them while i'm nauseas, i throw them up. [10:08] wow, that's rare [10:08] yep. [10:09] hence nobody realised when i was growing up. i didnt realise until a few years ago... then mum chimed in with 'oh, so that's why you always threw up baby panadol...' [10:10] i know someone who reacts badly to it too [10:10] you! [10:11] elky: can be a missing liver enzyme [10:11] most likely actually [10:11] and I am yet to find a painkiller as effective as ketoprofen [10:11] Myrtti: yes, but beware your stomach then... [10:12] Mamarok: doctors refuse to give me it without stomach protection meds nowadays after I've told them how much I've used it in the past [10:13] Myrtti: and they do well, as ketoprofen is not exactly stomach friendly [10:13] yeah [10:14] that's why I'm searching for a painkiller as good as it is - I could eat ibuprofein like bread and the end result would be the same as eating bread as painkiller [10:16] Myrtti: did you try piroxicam? [10:20] Mamarok: I'm not sure they have that in Finland [10:20] Myrtti: would be astonishing if not, it's very commonly prescribed for rheumatic diseases [10:21] seem to be available as gel [10:22] not exactly what we are looking for [10:23] anyway, it could work, thanks for heads up [10:23] I hate eating pills anyway [10:23] * Mamarok fears that this channel looks like a pharmaceutical consultation because of her now [10:23] hehe [10:24] you can imagine what it was like year and a half ago when my back was in worse condition as it is now [10:24] Myrtti: yeah, I can, markey's back is a recurrent problem here at home [10:27] grr... i hate it when i have no appetite but my stomach acts otherwise. [10:28] (sinus headache tends to kill my appetite) [10:32] the pseudo paracetamol combination is kicking in though [10:33] what the hell is wrong with the people of offtopic these days [10:34] Mamarok: what channel is he looking for? [10:35] the !de message does not list the kubuntu-de channel, it's available since ages [10:35] he is in there now [10:35] !de [10:35] In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis. [10:35] Mamarok: yes it does... [10:35] oh, right, didn't se that one :) [10:35] hehe [10:36] took me a second to notice also [10:50] is there a list of ops? [10:50] which channel? [10:50] oh for gods sake [10:52] no, he has nothing to do with it. [10:52] !at [10:52] Sorry, I don't know anything about at [10:52] Mamarok, care to help with ^^ [10:53] elky: where? [10:53] at is austria I guess, tell him !de [10:54] Mamarok, i mean something for the factoid about it being for loco stuff? [10:55] right, I think he is looking for an Austrian channel or so, but they speak German and !de will be fine [10:56] Mamarok, my point is that the distinction that -at is for loco stuff and -de is for 'everyone who speaks german' is lacking. [10:57] elky: sry, just busy in #kubuntu-de, brb [11:01] elky: back [11:02] how do I set a factoid again? [11:02] * Mamarok checks what Austrian loco teams there are... [11:03] Mamarok: is there one already? [11:04] jussi01: yes, #ubuntu-at [11:04] which is referred to in !de already [11:04] Mamarok: !foo is bar [11:04] or if the factoid exists: [11:04] Mamarok: !no, foo is bar [11:05] what does the bar part do? [11:05] its what ubottu says when you call foo [11:05] see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots [11:06] separate issue if mamarok has editor rights on ubottu [11:06] !jussi01 [11:06] Careful! [11:06] !no, jussi01 is Chomp! [11:06] I'll remember that jussi01 [11:06] !jussi01 [11:06] Chomp! [11:06] see? [11:06] Myrtti: we sorted that already... [11:08] !no, jussi01 is Carefull!! [11:08] I'll remember that jussi01 [11:10] !at Das österreichische Team finden sie unter #ubuntu-at, deutschsprachigen Support bekommen sie in #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de. Geben sie einfach /join #ubuntu-at ein! Danke für ihr Verständnis. [11:10] Sorry, I don't know anything about at !at Das österreichische Team finden sie unter #ubuntu-at, deutschsprachigen Support bekommen sie in #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de. Geben sie einfach /join #ubuntu-at ein! Danke für ihr Verständnis. [11:10] Sorry, I don't know anything about at strange, does my keyboard not work? [11:10] !at Das österreichische Team finden sie unter #ubuntu-at, deutschsprachigen Support bekommen sie in #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de. Geben sie einfach /join #ubuntu-at ein! Danke für ihr Verständnis. [11:11] Mamarok: !at is ... [11:11] !at is Das österreichische Team finden sie unter #ubuntu-at, deutschsprachigen Support bekommen sie auch in #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de. Geben sie einfach /join #ubuntu-at ein! Danke für ihr Verständnis. [11:11] I'll remember that, Mamarok [11:11] right :) [11:11] !at [11:11] Das österreichische Team finden sie unter #ubuntu-at, deutschsprachigen Support bekommen sie auch in #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de. Geben sie einfach /join #ubuntu-at ein! Danke für ihr Verständnis. [11:12] isn't it \join? [11:12] or am I going crazy [11:12] I'm going crazy. [11:13] s/going// [11:13] !ch [11:13] Sorry, I don't know anything about ch [11:13] another one to set... [11:13] please [11:14] elky: s/ / / [11:15] Flannel, i parse spaces in irc like in html. [11:16] !ch is Das Schweizer Team finden sie unter #ubuntu-ch, deutschsprachigen Support bekommen sie aber in #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de. Aus regionalen Gründen ist im Schweizer Channel nur Englisch erlaubt. Geben sie einfach /join #ubuntu-at ein! Danke für ihr Verständnis. [11:16] I'll remember that, Mamarok [11:20] interesting. So, if the official switzerland team's channel is english, why is the factoid in german? [11:20] I'm... entirely just curious, I don't think it's wrong, or whatnot. [11:20] And, I suppose, half devils advocate. [11:22] Flannel: 80% speak german, but we also have 3 other languages. We got aware that if we allow German, the Channel will end up in German and some epople there do not speak or understand it at all [11:22] and it's a team channel, not a support one, except maybe for the Swiss keyboard [11:22] I see. I wasn't aware of the percentages (my enxt question would've been, why not the factoid in fr or it?) [11:22] yes, working on that :) [11:23] no harm tacking 'english please' on in -fr and -it [11:23] but the French and Italian teams already know about us and send people there for regional stuff [11:23] gotcha. [11:23] Makes sense. [11:23] the Romansh almost all speak and write German, except maybe for some very old people [11:24] I've never even heard of it before. [11:24] and there are only about 200.000 speaking romash, well, 5 different dialects actually [11:24] it's a latin-like language, a bit colse to Italian, but in the same time very different [11:24] close* [11:25] it's spoken also in northern Italy and Croatia, but very sparse [11:26] it's only an official language in Switzerland, but not a mandatory one, e.g. the authorities do not have to translate into it, but only in de, fr and it [11:26] Switzerland is veeery special sometimes... [11:27] if you want to know about the Swiss, read "Dürrenmatt's letter to Vaclav Havel", very realistic [11:28] IMHO [11:29] http://www.litart.ch/fd/fdrede.htm, I should translate that... [11:30] Mamarok, so you're not actually a -de, but a -ch? [11:38] exactly :) [11:38] and I have two mothertongues, de and fr [11:41] Mamarok, i always thought you were a -de for some reason. [11:41] * Mamarok wonders why... [11:42] maybe because I know Nightrose who is from de [11:42] hello NCommander, did you fix your client? [11:42] and am quite often in de too [11:42] Myrtti, I'm on port 8001 [11:42] Myrtti, still affected. [11:42] * NCommander isn't home, hence why its an issue :-/ [11:43] Myrtti, why am I oped in #ubuntu-read-topic? [11:44] because you're ubuntu member [11:44] Mamarok, i think it's because i know you from #u-w with nightrose, yeah [11:45] Myrtti, I'm kinda surprised that works like that ... [11:45] NCommander, well it's for use in all ubuntu channels really [11:45] it just almost never is. [11:45] elky, ? [11:46] NCommander, we assume that most channels will have at least 1 member who can rescue someone from -read-topic if need be [11:46] NCommander, however, it's really not worth worrying about the why. [11:46] elky, rescue? (sorry, I'm somewhat new to read-topic, since its the first time I got banished there :-)) [11:47] just dont worry about why. [11:47] elky, np [11:47] NCommander: it's assumed that ubuntu members can read the wikipage and assist non-members with less "clue" to get themselves fixed [11:47] ah [12:01] NCommander: anyway, are you using a bouncer or an irssi proxy to connect to freenode? [12:30] <3 mirggi [12:54] Myrtti, crappy ISP [13:15] In #ubuntu, friendishan_ said: ubottu how is pici stuck hope u understand [13:16] oh dear god [13:20] ... [13:21] I... don't even have any words to respond to that with. [13:21] I can only guess what kind of private conversations poor ubottu has [13:23] * ikonia unstick's pici [14:00] so, as predicted, the awakeness of the pseudo has worn off and i'm quite sleepy. g'nite [14:00] okay, goodnight [14:08] * genii follows his nose over to the coffee urn [14:27] Work, /away (5-10 mins) [16:22] grah [16:23] * genii makes more coffee [16:32] In #ubuntu, iTomb said: Ubottu: no, XP is on my main drive. I installed Ubuntu on a dedicated 2nd drive. Now getting error 17. Not finding any docs on it thus far. [16:45] @login [16:45] The operation succeeded. [18:19] someone needs to sort the bots out [18:25] tsimpson: which ones, what's up? [18:25] Pricey: the floodbots [18:26] why are there 4? :/ [18:26] exactly [18:27] One of nalioth's quit and then two came back [18:27] lets see if that's better [18:28] Things look good? [18:28] looks like it [18:30] i'm aware [18:30] please stand by [18:30] * Pici stands by [18:30] beeeeep [18:31] * Myrtti point at -offtopic's latest new attendees hostname [18:31] working with the failsafe (crontab entry) [18:31] * nalioth hates crontabs [18:32] *mrhgm* [18:32] opinions? [18:32] down_ [i=down@suck.me.i.will.give.u.m0ney.org] [18:32] kill [19:17] * ikonia could use the money [19:17] get a number [19:27] o.o [19:31] * jussi01 prods ikonia [19:32] * tsimpson wonders what jussi01 is going to ask ikonia... [19:32] tsimpson: !!! [19:32] eek [19:32] haha [19:33] I said nothing, anything you infer is in your mind [20:06] @bansearch ubuntumacintosh [20:06] No matches found for ubuntumacintosh!n=grnhlk@ip24-56-31-25.ph.ph.cox.net in any channel [20:51] hmmmmm, what's best irc channel for quick review of ubuntu logo similarities in case of possible violation? [21:06] good day [21:08] no one around? [21:09] i am around [21:09] or not just watching [21:10] wondering if I can get my ban lifted today [21:14] I'm not familiar enough with the situation [21:15] I can explain very quickly. It was a misunderstanding that went too far. I apologized for my actions. That should be the end of it. [21:16] like i said, I'm not familiar enough with the situation [21:16] well thanks anyway [21:17] I'll try back tomorrow [21:37] Tm_T: #ubuntu-ianal [21:37] J/K [21:37] ... [21:38] glad I always forget what this "ianal" could mean [21:38] *snigger* [22:02] one of the most "uh" internet acronyms innit [23:26] @bansearch mathyboy [23:26] No matches found for mathyboy!n=mathyboy@pool-96-255-207-138.washdc.fios.verizon.net in any channel