[00:00] <gordonjcp> Zephryos: oh, don't know about Vista, I've never used it
[00:00] <vmelo> anyone can help me to run system-config-samba? http://paste.ubuntu.com/177503/
[00:00] <vmelo> python error :(
[00:00] <gordonjcp> Zephryos: you may need some software on vista to mount the linux partition
[00:00] <eseven73> is there a way to create a symlink to another directory but NOT have it create a directory? Like I need photos from /home/eseven73/Pictures to go to /var/www/images/ but NOT /var/www/images/SYMLINK_DIRECTORY/
[00:00] <System404> how to auto mount ntfs partition
[00:00] <coreyman> So I selected to extract an archive in the folder it is in from the right click menu, and I think it is stuck. What can I do.
[00:01] <System404> how to auto mount ntfs partition
[00:01] <coreyman> System404 /etc/fstab
[00:01] <Slart> eseven73: I don't think you can have files show up in some other folder..
[00:01] <eseven73> Slart, maybe with rsync?
[00:01] <Decepticon> how can i do backups to another machine if destination machine cannot be portforwarded? is there another way?
[00:01] <System404> coreyman access denied
[00:02] <Slart> eseven73: well.. yes.. but then you'd be moving the files for real
[00:02] <eseven73> ya
[00:02] <eseven73> hmmm I guess that's ok
[00:02] <coreyman> System404 it's a text file that shows what is mounting when your system starts up so do something like sudo yourtexteditorhere /etc/fstab
[00:02] <dibber> i was having trouble with gvfs so installed sshfs; I mount a remote (FreeBSD) volume and can cp some files via nautilus but some I have to cp via command line. Anyone have any thoughts on that? Not sure where to look.
[00:02] <TheFunkbomb> hi, I'm trying to share my Windows Firefox profile with my Ubuntu firefox profile.  When I try to start it in Ubuntu, it won't let me because it is in use
[00:03] <System404> i know whats starting up i want to add my 2 ntfs partions to this but i have no idea how i only b nising linux 3 days
[00:03] <Zephryos> gordonjcp: Have to go for now, thank you for your help Gordon, anythign I need to do after its done installing on the USB drive?
[00:03] <felix_>  problem with reprepro: http://pastebin.com/m14ae202f
[00:03] <coreyman> System404 first you have to find the UUID of your NTFS drive and that is with some commands I don't remember so You'll have to google "/etc/fstab mount" on google or something.
[00:04] <coreyman> So I'm extracting an archive and I think it's stuck, anyone know what I can do about that.
[00:04] <felix_>  problem with reprepro: http://pastebin.com/m14ae202f
[00:04] <sere> can someone help me set up my fstab so i can have write access too my ntfs-3g please
[00:04] <System404> ill wait till mattgyver is online and ask him to talk me through it like he did last time before i screwed up my install and had to start again
[00:04] <gordonjcp> Zephryos: enjoy it?
[00:04] <gordonjcp> Zephryos: ttyl
[00:04] <coreyman> System404 okay :D
[00:04] <mib_kdjici> I am trying to install IEs4linux and keep getting told I have an old version of Wine, I have double checked and source list and am current. Does anyone know the fix?
[00:05] <coreyman> Jesus christ, internet explorer on linux....
[00:05] <mib_kdjici> hehe
[00:05] <mib_kdjici> Amen.
[00:05] <jrib> mib_kdjici: visit #winehq .  I don't think ies4linux is recommended anyway
[00:06] <mib_kdjici> I'll try it thx!
[00:06] <System404> coreyman dont get upset
[00:06] <coreyman> Anyone know how I can kill a stuck archive extracting?
[00:06] <coreyman> System404 I'm not !
[00:06] <System404> just ive screwed up once dnt wana screw up again so would rather sum1 talked me through it
[00:06] <TheFunkbomb> can someone help me set up read/write permissions so I can share FF profiles from Windows?
[00:06] <coreyman> System404 Sorry if it came out that way.
[00:07] <matrix> hey i installed nmap from terminal sudo in which folder is nmap
[00:07] <coreyman> TheFunkbomb you mean you want to mount an ntfs partition so you can pull a FF profile off your drive?
[00:07] <System404> ud think thered be a right click auto mount drive option geez
[00:07] <Dulak> matrix: which nmap
[00:07] <TheFunkbomb> coreyman, I already have that, but Firefox in Ubuntu won't let me use it
[00:07] <poseidon> Is there a good alternative to a game like dawn of war on ubuntu?
[00:07] <felix_>  problem with reprepro: http://pastebin.com/m14ae202f
[00:08] <coreyman> TheFunkbomb idk :(
[00:08] <coreyman> matrix why do you need the folder?
[00:08] <coreyman> matrix you can just run it with the nmap command.
[00:08] <felix_> matrix, "which nmap"
[00:08] <matrix> i want to see the source code
[00:09] <coreyman> matrix likely it's in bin somewhere
[00:09] <sere> anyone have an ntfs drive?
[00:09] <felix_> matrix "apt-get source nmap" youll see a tar in you current directory
[00:09] <coreyman> matrix you could do a "find nmap"
[00:09] <VCoolio1> coreyman: if you used the default archive manager 'killall file-roller' would to I think, check 'top' in terminal to see if that is running
[00:10] <coreyman> VCoolio1 I'll try to "killall file-roller"
[00:10] <coreyman> woah top is all running proccesses eh.
[00:10] <coreyman> yea ark is using 100% CPU >.>
[00:10] <coreyman> so I guess I can killall ark?
[00:11] <felix_> coreyman, in real time. to see al process type "ps lex"
[00:11] <System404> how do i edit grub
[00:11] <System404> wana remove sum options whats the command to edit this
[00:11] <coreyman> System404 /etc/menu.lst i think.. someone correct me.
[00:11] <felix_> System404, you can use kgrub for safe editing
[00:12] <RxDx> im trying to install kernel 2.6.30rc6.. whats the diff btwn linux-headers and linux-image?
[00:12] <System404> i know wat i need to edit i done it before just cant remember how to get into the file
[00:12] <VCoolio1> coreyman: you're on kde? yeah, kill ark then
[00:12] <felix_> System404, i think it was /boot/grub
[00:12] <jshriver> Greetings, can someone help me with passwordless ssh keys? I gen'd the keys, put the pub as authorized_keys on the target machine, enabled it in sshd_config and restarted... still not working
[00:13] <coreyman> Ok VCoolio1 I killed ark, but the little notification in KDE is still showing that it's extracing and stuck.
[00:13] <felix_>  problem with reprepro: http://pastebin.com/m14ae202f
[00:13] <System404> bash: /boot/grub: is a directory
[00:13] <felix_> System404, go into it and ls
[00:13] <System404> wat
[00:13] <System404> how
[00:13] <System404> i bn using linux 3 days total noob here
[00:14] <bc> jshriver: pastebin the output of ssh -v <args> (removing anything personal, of course)
[00:14] <felix_> System404, "cd /boot/grub ; ls"
[00:14] <Dr_Willis> System404:  /boot/grub IS a directory.. yes.. :)     its correct.
[00:15] <VCoolio1> coreyman: does xkill work in kde? you can enter 'xkill', your mouse cursor becomes a cross and you can click a window to kill it
[00:15] <System404> DrWillis im trying to open grub to edit it but thats the error i got bash boot/grub is a directory
[00:15] <rwaters1> Anyone installed Ubuntu desktop on a Asus Eee 1000HE?  I'm using the same stick I used on my laptop, so I know its bootable... changed the boot order on the asus, but it still refuses to boot off the usb drive
[00:15] <Dulak> System404: you want to edit boot/grub/menu.lst
[00:15] <Dr_Willis> System404:  you are telling it a directory when it wants a file... such as sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[00:15] <jshriver> k brb
[00:15] <donavan01> anyone know if you can get a adblock plus list into the program iplist
[00:15] <felix_> rwaters1, does have the eeepc enought memory to boot?
[00:15] <matuck> System404, sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst  you can change nano to your editor of shoice
[00:15] <Dr_Willis> System404:  logical eh? :) you edit a file.. not a directroy/folder
[00:15] <Soren1> I said screw it an installed Ubuntu before XP..............how do I know if I did it right
[00:16] <bc> jshriver: also, check your permissions. ~/.ssh/config must be chmod 600 and owned by the user.
[00:16] <Dr_Willis> Soren1:  does it boot up? :)
[00:16] <System404> so instead of nano i use wat im not sure
[00:16] <Dr_Willis> System404:  use whatever editor you like.
[00:16] <matuck> use nano or vi
[00:16] <jshriver> hrm dont have a .ssh/config
[00:16] <Soren1> I said screw it an installed Ubuntu before I *reinstalled* XP..............how do I know if I did it right
[00:16] <felix_> hi Soren1 i remind you. do you want my help? :)
[00:16] <jshriver> I changed the /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[00:16] <matuck> System404, vi is more complicated though
[00:16] <coreyman> Vcoolio1 let me see, i dont know why it wouldnt.
[00:16] <Soren1> yepper, that is how I am here
[00:16] <djh816> hey guys, could anyone recommmend a ubuntu compatible program that displays caller id information from a modem hooked up to a phone line?
[00:16] <jshriver> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/177514/
[00:17] <System404> i fink the one i used last time i done this had a g in it sumwhere haha
[00:17] <System404> if that helps
[00:17] <bc> jshriver: disregard then.
[00:17] <coreyman> Vcoolio1 yep it works!
[00:17] <System404> gpedit or sumfin
[00:17] <Soren1> felix_ can you check my settings
[00:17] <Dr_Willis> Soren1:  did what right?  if you installed ubuntu right? or what?  you will need to learn how to recover grub.. unless you are using 2 seperate hard drives.. then you coul dunplug the linux drive.. install xp.. then plug the linux drive back in.
[00:17] <jshriver> bc: port 60022 is open (only port used) and I can get it just requires password
[00:17] <matuck> System404, you do gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[00:17] <VCoolio1> coreyman: nice, you can make a laucher for it maybe, could come in handy
[00:17] <coreyman> Vcoolio1 and i Killed my taskbar accidentaly... lol
[00:17] <bc> jshriver: use -p instead of -P
[00:18] <felix_> Soren1, what settings are those?
[00:18] <jshriver> ops one sec,, been doing scp for testing :) brb
[00:18] <coreyman> Guess I'll restart X real quick
[00:18] <Soren1> I just want to make sure Ubuntu is installed in the right part of the drive with the right amount of space before I go ahead
[00:18] <VCoolio1> coreyman: hmm, in gnome it shows up again automatically in a few secs; maybe kde requires a panel restart
[00:18] <coreyman> Vcoolio1 yea.
[00:18] <felix_> ok Soren1 , so go to the step of ubiquity that makes the partitions
[00:19] <jshriver> ok here we go lot more info
[00:19] <jshriver> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/177516/
[00:19] <Soren1> felix_, how
[00:19] <coreyman> What's the new restart shortcut from keyboard for x.. it used to be ctrl alt backspace, now its like ctrl shift sysrq?
[00:19] <jshriver> btw I've tried both dsa and rsa same results
[00:19] <VCoolio1> coreyman: alt-sysrq-k
[00:19] <coreyman> vcoolio1 ah.
[00:19] <felix_> Soren1, have you installed ubuntu already?
[00:19] <Soren1> felix_, you know I already installed Ubuntu on the drive with flakey XP that needs to be reinstalled
[00:20] <felix_> Soren1,  or still using lñivecd?
[00:20] <Soren1> felix_, yes
[00:20] <felix_> Soren1, what?
[00:20] <bc> jshriver: your matching .pub is located in the authorized_keys file in user's ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file on user@10.0.1.245
[00:21] <mrwes> !dontzap | coreyman
[00:21] <jshriver> yes
[00:21] <Soren1> felix_,I already installed Ubuntu on the HDD with a flakey XP OS that needs to be reinstalled
[00:21] <matrix> when i run i get this /bin/sh: g++: not found
[00:21] <jshriver> I just scp -P 60022 id_dsa.pub user@IP:/home/user/.ssh/authorized_keys
[00:21] <matrix> what iam i missing
[00:21] <Ciros> okay I am trying to get the synaptics utility to work (GSynaptics)  but I keep getting this error: "GSynaptics couldn't initialize. You have to set 'SHMConfig' 'true' in xorg.conf or XF86Config to use GSynaptics"    I look in my xorg.conf it looks like: http://pastebin.com/m43011c29
[00:22]  * Ciros is just confused
[00:22] <bc> jshriver: check permissions in the remote ~/.ssh. also, manually make sure id_dsa.pub is in /home/user/.ssh/authorized_keys
[00:22] <felix_> Soren1, if you have to reinstall XP that will delete the GRUB, so you willy have to reinstall ubuntu too.
[00:22] <Dr_Willis> Ciros:  i seem to recall the forum having this as a topic/tweak/thing.. but i forget teh details..
[00:22] <Dulak> jshriver: that will overwrite anything existing in authorized_keys which is fine for the first key, but if you want to put another key in there you would scp the file over then append it to the existing file, for future reference
[00:22] <jshriver> what permission shoudl it be?
[00:22] <felix_> Soren1, or fix GRUB which isnt easy
[00:22] <bc> jshriver: note, /home/user/.ssh/authorized_keys is a file not a directory
[00:22] <Dr_Willis> If you know grub-fu - its easy. :)
[00:23] <Ciros> Dr_Willis:    lol guess will serch more since I am always fail lol
[00:23] <bc> jshriver: ~/.ssh = 700, owned by user
[00:23] <borttrollad> Hello , anyone know why i get black flashes when i use compiz?
[00:23] <jshriver> aye, its the only key for not. Was planning to just cat keys once I added more successfully :)
[00:23] <Ciros> I am just sick of the over sensitive touchpad
[00:23] <Soren1> I want to see if I installed Ubuntu correctly..............if I have the 10GB partition, the ex3 thing, the / thing, the swap space...............and anything else
[00:23] <felix_> Soren1, apt-get install gparted
[00:23] <matrix>  hey why do i get this error /bin/sh: g++: not found
[00:23] <Decepticon> !backup
[00:24] <mrwes> matrix, what are you trying to run?
[00:24] <jshriver> thanks that was it! I chmod -R 700 .ssh and it worked ty
[00:24] <Soren1> put this in a terminal? apt-get install gparted
[00:24] <jshriver> bc you are the man :)
[00:24] <bc> jshriver: glad it worked
[00:24] <System404> kudos on the grub advice guys ats me sorted in that area
[00:24] <Dr_Willis> Ciros:  i recall looking this up a few months ago for another guy.. but i forget the details - i think the 'proper' fix was to change a hal config file.. that made that optiuon the default
[00:24] <felix_> matrix, i think youre trying to compile nmap source im right? you have to download the compiler, which is called g++. you'll need some libs too
[00:25] <System404> now i need to auto mount my ntfs partition as thats where my media is and dont want to search for it all manually everytime
[00:25] <Soren1> greg@greg-laptop:~$ apt-get install gparted
[00:25] <Soren1> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[00:25] <Soren1> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[00:25] <felix_> Soren1, "sudo apt-get install gparted"
[00:25] <felix_> Soren1, "sudo apt-get install gparted"
[00:25] <matrix> yes felix_ iam tryin to get the newest nmap i just runned sudo make its working now
[00:25] <Ciros> Dr_Willis:  dont even know how to mess with that.  heh.   though makes sense hal would need to be worked around with
[00:26] <System404> ow i need to auto mount my ntfs partition as thats where my media is and dont want to search for it all manually everytime
[00:26] <Soren1> !pastebin
[00:26] <LeoSh> I'm having some trouble using virtualenv in Jaunty, the virtual environments I create don't pick up the dist-packages directory. Can anyone offer any thoughts/experience/advice?
[00:27] <Dr_Willis> Ciros:  it was a single config file i recall.. OR you could edit the xorg.conf and paste in a whole input device section like this frhread
[00:27] <System404> ow i need to auto mount my ntfs partition as thats where my media is and dont want to search for it all manually everytime
[00:27] <Dr_Willis> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=975421
[00:27] <felix_> LeoSh, i have exactly the same problem
[00:27] <LeoSh> felix_: That's a good start :-)
[00:27] <Soren1> felix_ http://paste.ubuntu.com/177518/
[00:28] <System404> ow i need to auto mount my ntfs partition as thats where my media is and dont want to search for it all manually everytime
[00:28] <System404> anyone able to talk me through it
[00:28] <felix_> LeoSh, when i try to "chroot /chroot/folder /bin/env VARIABLES apt-get install *package* it does not work
[00:28] <VCoolio1> System404: you need to put that in fstab, so: "gksudo gedit /etc/fstab" and add a new line with something like (first device, then mount point, then filesystem, then options: /dev/sda1       /media/disk     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8 0 0
[00:28] <VCoolio1> others correct me please
[00:28] <Ciros> yeah Dr_Willis  thinking about jsut adding the section...couldnt hurt....
[00:29] <felix_> Soren1, good, now type "gparted"
[00:29] <LeoSh> felix_: huh? I'm not quite sure what you mean...
[00:29] <System404> VCoolio1 im a total linux noob so would have no idea where to start with regards of wat to write in there could u talk me through it in PM
[00:29] <Soren1> root oriviulages are required.................
[00:29] <VCoolio1> System404: could try, but I'm not a fstab hero
[00:30] <matuck> system404, pm me
[00:30] <System404> any help would be appreciated
[00:30] <Soren1> sudo gparted?
[00:30] <VCoolio1> matuck: thx
[00:30] <matuck> VCoolio1, np
[00:30] <Dr_Willis> Ciros:  i found a thread on it... edit the file Use your preferred text editor (as root) to edit /etc/hal/fdi/policy/shmconfig.fdi
[00:30] <losher> System404: there's an example in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=949647
[00:30] <felix_> LeoSh, i created a virtual environment and a chroot folder, to make build a linux filesystem and install packages, then make the folder a iso und just boot (not as simply, but you guess)
[00:30] <Dr_Willis> Ciros:  see --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1090948
[00:30] <Soren1> felix_? sudo gparted?
[00:31] <LeoSh> felix_: Oh, got it, I'm having a very different problem. I'm referring to the python virtualenv tool
[00:31] <felix_> Soren1, just gparted, so you are in read only
[00:31] <corunum> Hello, I need help undoing a dual boot
[00:31] <donavan01> anyone know if I can run firefox and mozilla at the same time?
[00:31] <felix_> ok LeoSh sorry :)
[00:32] <Soren1> felix_, it said "root privileges are required for running...."
[00:32] <mechdave> System404, what are you using ext3 or ext4?
[00:32] <felix_> Soren1, it doesn't ask it for me. type then "sudo gparted"
[00:32] <Soren1> felix_ "Since GParted is a powerful tool capable of destroying partition tables and vast amounts of data, only root may run it."
[00:33] <felix_> Soren1, just dont touch anything if not sure, but you can see your paartitions size and all
[00:33] <dassouki> what are my options to providing directory email access similar to outlook web access
[00:33] <Soren1> felix, ok, I see a window kinda like the one where I got lost before
[00:34] <felix_> Soren1, ok. what partitions do you see, what filesystem, in the shown drive=?
[00:34] <iceroot> dassouki: try squirrelmail
[00:35] <dassouki> iceroot: i did, i also was looking for directory access and perhaps collaboration
[00:35] <corunum> how do I remove a dual boot
[00:35] <dassouki> corunum: to go back to windows or ubuntu
[00:35] <felix_> corunum, what boots do you have and what you want to remove
[00:36] <corunum> ubuntu and windows vista, I wish to remove vista
[00:36] <felix_> corunum, are both in the same drive?
[00:36] <corunum> yes felix_
[00:37] <Soren1> felix_, here is what I see Partition=/dev/sda1 filesys=ntfs size=107GB flags=boot...............Partition=/dev/sda2 filesystem=extended size=20GB...................Partition=/dev/sda5 filesystem=ext3 mountpoint=/ size=20GB used=3GB unused=16GB...............partition=dev/sda6 filesystem=linux-swap size=933MB
[00:37] <Flannel> !away > Mack
[00:38] <Ciros> yeah   I dont know which actually fixed it, the adding of the SHMConfig, or the amd64 fix that schlort said in the one thread  *shrug*  but works yay
[00:38] <Mack> Flannel: all it is is a nick change
[00:38] <scunizi> Flannel: I think that was just a nick name change
[00:39] <felix_> Soren1, i think everything is ok. the ntfs partition is the windows one, its size is 107gb. in the other partition (ext3) is ubuntu, 20gb, 16 free, and there is a swap partition of 933mb too
[00:39] <Flannel> Mack: Right.  Please don't have your client change your nick when you go away, etc.  See that page for more information.
[00:39] <Mack> it didn't, i did
[00:39] <Soren1> felix, so I have swap overkill for right now?
[00:39] <losher> !away
[00:39] <Flannel> Mack: alright, then please don't do that anymore.  There are better methods of setting yourself away.
[00:40] <scunizi> Soren1: if you ever decide to get rid of the windows partition you can use it for your /home directory :)
[00:40] <Mack> i did /away then /nick Mack|away
[00:40] <lashi> g'day
[00:40] <Mack> cuz away does ALMOST nothing
[00:40] <lashi> anyone here burn dvds using brasero?
[00:40] <dassouki> i'm looking for a collaboration system on both intra and internet levels
[00:40] <Ciros> Dr_Willis:  thanks for the help I appreciate it, made getting it enabled to happen faster :D
[00:40] <felix_> corunum, im not sure how to do it. but you can use gparted to destroy the vista partition, and den add the free space to the linux one
[00:40] <Soren1> so all systems are GO?
[00:40] <scunizi> lashi: nope  k3b
[00:40] <felix_> corunum, im not sure how to do it. but you can use gparted to destroy the vista partition, and then add the free space to the linux one
[00:40] <lashi> bugger
[00:40] <Flannel> Mack: just don't do do the nick changes in the future.  thanks.
[00:40] <lashi> corunum, what are you trying to do?
[00:40] <felix_> Soren1, you can start hacking :)
[00:40] <corunum> that was my last resort, thanks felix_
[00:41] <Dr_Willis> Ciros:  :) the 2nd time ive researched this  heh
[00:41] <Mack> ok, no more nick changes here
[00:41] <Soren1> felix_, close the scary window where Ido not want to touch anything?
[00:41] <felix_> Soren1,  yes
[00:41] <corunum> lashi, to remove vista from my computer to only have ubuntu as my operating system
[00:41] <Ciros> Dr_Willis:  you should just book mark that thread ;)   I am thinking, for me, it was the fix that someone listed for amd64, since I am running 64bit.
[00:41] <lashi> corunum, so boot up using your ubuntu disk
[00:41] <felix_> lashi, i use brasero for everything
[00:41] <lashi> then, open a terminal
[00:42] <Soren1> now how do I get the latest updates/version of Ubuntu
[00:42] <losher> Mack: scary. Who expected a simple nick change would bring down the wrath of god?
[00:42] <lashi> felix, 1 sec, i'll get corunum sorted first
[00:42] <lashi> your first disk should be /dev/sda
[00:42] <Dr_Willis> Ciros:  with the new X changes.. the use of those tools are sort of outdated.. soon to be obsolete i think
[00:42] <lashi> you can check that by typing dmesg | grep sd
[00:42] <bin10101> any ubuntu server fans here?
[00:42] <lashi> then to a sudo fdisk /dev/sda on the command line
[00:42] <lashi> if you type p, it'll help you print the fstab
[00:43] <scunizi> bin10101: we're probabaly not running suse or redhat :)
[00:43] <lashi> then type d
[00:43] <bin10101> lol
[00:43] <lashi> and delete the entries on the partition table
[00:43] <Ciros> Dr_Willis:  yeah, wouldnt surprise me.  the issue being there wasnt anything natively in x that would allow me to adjust the sensitivity of the touchpad, and when the mouse moves when you arent even touching the pad...that is waaay to sensitive
[00:43] <lashi> note corunum, this will DESTROY all the data
[00:43] <Mack> losher: well for one, Flannel did
[00:43] <lashi> but corunum, doesn't the ubuntu installer give you the option to install over your whole disk?
[00:43] <felix_> lashi, i think that gparted do the same
[00:43] <lashi> I thought that was the default option
[00:43] <lashi> felix_, yeah, it probably would
[00:43] <lashi> felix_, all this GUI shit is really new to me
[00:44] <FloodBot3> lashi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:44] <Soren1> How do I know if I have all the new/updated stuff for jaunty jaguar or killer kangaroo or whatever it is
[00:44] <losher> Mack: yeah, dunno what that was about. Never seen him do that before...
[00:44] <lashi> that's why I need help with brasero
[00:44] <bin10101> i have two ether connections for ubuntu server 9.04 in a VirtualBox VM.  Even if I set both connections the same, one is defined as eth0 and the other as vibr0.  I can't seem to get vibr0 to work in any configuration.  Is this a limitation of server?
[00:44] <lashi> felix_, so, how do you do multisession in the latest brasero? the old one used to be able to do it, but 2.2 doesn't seem to be a goer
[00:44] <felix_> Soren1, open System / Admin / Software origins and enable all repositories including third partyes
[00:45]  * Mack|Logger is a logger for Mack! I will not have any automated messages anymore.
[00:45] <scunizi> bin10101: enlighten me.. what's vibr0
[00:45] <felix_> lashi, i not use to do multisession disks
[00:45] <lashi> bugger
[00:45] <Flannel> losher: We've always had a no-away message policy.
[00:46] <felix_> Soren1, once its done, it will refresh packages while closing. then run "apt-get upgrade"
[00:46] <losher> Flannel: good to know. I never realised...
[00:46] <felix_> Soren1, once its done, it will refresh packages while closing. then run "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[00:46] <bin10101> I am not sure...read on a web site that its a virtual bridge connection...not sure why it wasn't set up as eth1 in the install.  Both ether connections are set up the same as NAT in virtualbox
[00:46] <Stargazer> How do i add themes tp Compiz ?
[00:46] <Soren1> felix_, please slow down
[00:46] <Stargazer> To
[00:46] <felix_> Soren1, im not going to leave :)
[00:47] <Soren1> felix_, under the Ubuntu Software tab, what should be checked
[00:47] <scunizi> bin10101: so let me see if I got this right.. you've got server up and running with vbox and a vm in vbox.. now you want to access the vm from another machine?  is that right?
[00:47] <bin10101> nope.
[00:47] <pyrohotdog> What is the quickest easiest way to batch rename files? E.g., change extensions from .JPG to .jpg?
[00:47] <scunizi> bin10101: :(.. you're just looking for info on the weirdly named bridge for the internet?
[00:47] <bin10101> ubuntu 9.04 desktop, and a virtualbox ubuntu server 9.04 as a development LAMPP box
[00:47] <scunizi> k
[00:48] <ra21vi> does any one know any web-service where I can fetch the Wether Info of my country - India
[00:48] <felix_> Soren1, everything
[00:48] <Dr_Willis> pyrohotdog:  that can be done with a simple shell command or . theres sevarl ways to do it.
[00:48] <corunum> I have deleted my windows partition, how do I resize my ubuntu one/
[00:48] <Shinu> Hey --  how can i tar all files matching *.ini *.txt *.conf in a directory?
[00:48] <Decepticon> i have /home/decepticon/bigdir/dir1/ /home/decepticon/bigdir/dir2/ /home/decepticon/bigdir/dir3/ all with big contents inside, i want to retain the dir structure of dir1/ dir2/ dir3/ in the tar but not have the contents in the tar. so do i have to --exclude/home/decepticon/bigdir/dir1/* --exclude=/home/decepticon/bigdir/dir2/* --exclude=/home/decepticon/bigdir/dir3/* and so on for each or is there a better way?
[00:48] <Decepticon> or is there a better way
[00:48] <Stargazer> How do i add themes to Compiz ?
[00:48] <pyrohotdog> Dr_Willis: I know I've done it before in the shell but I don't recall how...
[00:48] <bin10101> I have one connection for the internet which i will turn off after updates and the other is supposed to be so the host machine can talk to the server VM.
[00:48] <scunizi> bin10101: and you want to access that server from other machines?
[00:49] <scunizi> bin10101: ah .. ok..
[00:49] <Dr_Willis> pyrohotdog:  google is our friend. :) theres proberly 123+ ways to do it --> http://tldp.org/LDP/GNU-Linux-Tools-Summary/html/mass-rename.html
[00:49] <bin10101> nope...just the local....I will change the NAT to the HOST ONLY, if I can ever prove to myself that vibr0 works as a normal connection....LOL
[00:49] <sztomi> Hi. I'm looking for epiphany-webkit package for jaunty. I tried installing it with apt and auto-completion is aware of the package name, but I turned out that there is no suh package in universe. Google keeped a copy of the packages site that contained this pack here: http://preview.tinyurl.com/o4qrqd . Is there any way to install it apart from compiling from source?
[00:49] <bin10101> s/local/host/g
[00:49] <Soren1> felix_, under the Ubuntu Software tab, even SourceCode and Installable From CD-ROM/DVD Cdrom with Ubuntu 8.10 "intrepid ibex" officially supported restricted copyright?
[00:49] <pyrohotdog> Dr_Willis: Thank you sir.
[00:49] <Bielco> hi guys, iḿ getting Composite extention not available when i try to disable visual settings.
[00:49] <Stargazer> How do i add themes to Compiz ?
[00:49] <Dr_Willis> pyrohotdog:  check out the 'rename utils' package that contains 'qmv' its VERY handy if doing a lot of weird renaming
[00:50] <Bielco> any ideas ?
[00:50] <Dr_Willis> !find qmv
[00:50] <felix_> corunum, once in gparted, just edit the size. select your linux partition and clic on Resize/Move
[00:50] <Bielco> to enable i mean ofcourse
[00:50] <pyrohotdog> Thanks again! Later #ubuntu!
[00:50] <corunum> the resize/move option is grayed out
[00:51] <Demonicdata> So
[00:51] <Demonicdata> What is the CCleaner of linux?
[00:51] <Viking668> uh, what _is_ ccleaner?
[00:51] <Dr_Willis> Demonicdata:  theres no need for one normally
[00:51] <felix_> Soren1, im not guessing you but that makes packages installable from cd
[00:51] <Dr_Willis> Demonicdata:  there are some cruft cleaner tools..but you are proberly better off not using them
[00:51] <scunizi> bin10101: couple of things.. you don't have to turn off the primary nic if you don't want.  depending on how the virtual nic is setup, if you do turn off the primary nick it might turn off the virtual nic as well.  Beyond that I suggest checking out #vbox for more specific network stuff.. they're pretty helpful over there..
[00:51] <erUSUL> Demonicdata: not needed for the most part
[00:52] <Demonicdata> your saying that linux doesn't keep logfiles,history etc
[00:52] <Viking668> no.
[00:52] <Soren1> felix_.............. so do not check SourceCode or the Other THing?
[00:52] <Viking668> It does, typically.
[00:52] <Dr_Willis> Demonicdata:  theres no need to worry about them.. they dont take up lots of space.. or slow things down.
[00:52] <Viking668> What's ccleaner, then I might be able to state better.
[00:52] <Dr_Willis> Demonicdata:  it keeps 7 days of logs compressed.. and removes the old automatically
[00:52] <bin10101> ok...thanks scunizi
[00:52] <felix_> corunum, i have tryed the process with my swap partition. you have to unmount it or something. but if its the file system youre using i suggest you to do it from a livecd
[00:53] <Demonicdata> its a windows program.great,cleans all the history or temp or data files and gives you various secure deletion algorithims.even lets to write over empty space etc.its a cleaner/security freeware
[00:53] <corunum> ah, now I remember. I will do it from the live cd. thank you
[00:53] <Viking668> ah.
[00:53] <corunum> as far as the "extended" and "linux swap" partitions do I leave those alone?
[00:53] <felix_> Soren1, just tick all repositoryes. and in the third party, enable the repos too.
[00:53] <Soren1> felix_.............. so do not check SourceCode or the Other THing?
[00:54] <Viking668> I tend not to worry about history/temp files unless I'm starting to run low on room.
[00:54] <mazin__> any one there
[00:54] <Viking668> corunum: normally, yes.
[00:54] <Viking668> mazin__: where?
[00:54] <mazin__> good
[00:54] <felix_> corunum, cya
[00:54] <Demonicdata> http://bleachbit.blogspot.com/2008/12/bleachbit-020-released.html
[00:54] <mazin__> first time i user ubuntu what ya think about it ?
[00:55] <felix_> mazin, you should have startet before :)
[00:55] <Dr_Willis> mazin__: theres several 100+ people here... :)
[00:55] <sztomi> :)
[00:55] <mazin__> i use mandriva and fedoura
[00:55] <Dr_Willis> mazin__:  sorry to hear that.. :P
[00:55] <Demonicdata> Improve .deb and .rpm packaging. In particular, all .deb packages now are "all" architecture (instead of i386 and amd64).
[00:55] <Demonicdata> Thats a interesting feature
[00:55] <Ciros> 1424 people total
[00:55] <mazin__> looooooooooooool dr_willis
[00:56] <felix_> Ciros, but no one knows whats this http://pastebin.com/m14ae202f
[00:56] <mazin__> why we dont creat emechs and bots + bnc and enter the undernet server as ubuntu users
[00:56] <sztomi> Is there someone who knows about epiphany-webkit in jaunty repos?
[00:56] <Soren1> felix, it is reloading info
[00:57] <Demonicdata> Smack its already in teh repository
[00:57] <felix_> Soren1, thats ok. now open a terminal and tipe "apt-get upgrade"
[00:57] <felix_> Soren1, thats ok. now open a terminal and tipe "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[00:57] <Soren1> both? or the latter?
[00:57] <felix_> latter
[00:58] <sztomi> Demonicdata: was that answer meant for me?
[00:59] <Soren1> felix, Y for continue
[00:59] <Ciros> Felix that's a weird error message.   I dont use gpg much so I dunno.  only use gpg for sources.
[01:00] <felix_> Soren1, most admin tools need root privileges. if someday a command refuses to work try adding 'sudo' before it. and if you type 'sudo -i' you'll become admin. your terminal will change the $ by the # and youll have all privileges to use (and even destroy) your system
[01:00] <BlackGrave> guyz how i can find an irc works on ubuntu not xchat just irc
[01:00] <jefinc> I am having a problem with my wireless adapter on a macbook pro, when I do iwconfig it displays: no wireless extentions.; but the device is displayed with lspci; any thoughts?
[01:00] <Dr_Willis> BlackGrave:  clarify 'irc works' ...
[01:00] <mneptok> Mack Mack|Logger: why the 2 clients?
[01:00] <Demonicdata> I dunno I just say bleachbits does clean caches out.not as developed as ccleaner
[01:00] <Dr_Willis> BlackGrave:  theres dozens of irc clients.. and irc servers
[01:00] <Mack> mneptok: one logs to an HTML file
[01:00] <SorenTheDestroye> :D
[01:00] <fatty2003> hello
[01:01] <sztomi> hi
[01:01] <mneptok> Mack: there are official channel logs available. you do not need to log.
[01:01] <Mack> mneptok: ehh i guess
[01:01] <Mack> well its used on my server
[01:01] <Mack> as the official ones
[01:01] <HelloJello> how to I stream to firewire w/ VLC in ubuntu 9.04?
[01:01] <Mack> cuz i dont like the denora ones
[01:01] <SorenTheDestroye> 20 more min of updates
[01:01] <Mack> which reminds me
[01:01] <LjL> !enter
[01:01] <Thons> Linux Proves - The Best Things In Life Are Free http://techbuddha.blog.co.in/tag/linux/
[01:01] <Mack> how do i build denora on ubuntu
[01:01] <Mack> it always fails
[01:01] <felix_> SorenTheDestroye, you wanted it :)
[01:02] <Mack> same w/ unrealircd
[01:02] <casrt> hello am in 2 irc channels at once with irssi but i cant change channel with alt+ -->
[01:02] <BlackGrave> dr_willis i wans the normal irc or my script to join undernet i cannt find it on ubuntu it work fine on fedura
[01:02] <SorenTheDestroye> yup :)
[01:02] <mneptok> Mack: please /part your logging client
[01:02] <Mack> k
[01:02] <felix_> SorenTheDestroye, at least ubuntu servers always reach max speed
[01:02] <sztomi> Is there someone who knows about epiphany-webkit in jaunty repos?
[01:02] <Dr_Willis> casrt:  somne times the window managers grab the alt+# or other alt-XXX key presses.
[01:02] <mneptok> Mack: thanks man
[01:02] <scunizi> casrt: hit is a couple of times..
[01:02] <scunizi> *it
[01:02] <Mack> mneptok: u no about logging?
[01:03] <SorenTheDestroye> felix_, why didn't I see any Jaunty jackelope things
[01:03] <Dr_Willis> BlackGrave:  the term 'normal irc' means nothing.. there are many text based irc clients, such as irssi, Bitchx, and the old original ircii (now thats old!)
[01:03] <Mack> denorastats wont build on my computer
[01:03] <Mack> idk y
[01:03] <Mack> ./Config works, but make will give errors
[01:03] <Mack> same w/ sudo make
[01:03] <LjL> !enter | mack
[01:03] <Mack> and chmodding the whole thing to 777
[01:03] <Mack> LjL: sorry
[01:03] <mneptok> Mack: see /query
[01:04] <Mack> mneptok: :D
[01:04] <Soren1> who is the god/dess of sound that hangs out here and has his/her own channel?
[01:04] <KnickLighter> Hi everyone, I am trying to set up my ubuntu server as a router aswel, so that I can plug in a cable in (for example) my laptop, and the end of the cable in my server, and then I can internet on my laptop. I got a bit working, followed a tutorial but so far the routing is failing on me, anyone that can help?
[01:04] <felix_> Soren1, there are jaunty packages, you dont have neccessarily to see them called somthing-jaunty
[01:04] <KnickLighter> It has 6 network cards
[01:04] <Flannel> !ics | KnickLighter
[01:05] <Flannel> KnickLighter: Those pages may be of help
[01:05] <Bllasae> Thanks for all your help Flannel
[01:05] <KnickLighter> Thanks, let me check that
[01:05] <Flannel> Thons: Please don't post links here.  Thanks
[01:06] <Thons> Ok
[01:06] <VCoolio1> what does "#!/usr/bin/env xdg-open" stand for in a desktop file? (I added synaptic as desktop launcher and it uses that as shabang)
[01:06] <Soren1> felix_, am I DL/ing all the new files or am I DLing a list of new files
[01:06] <bin10101> sd
[01:06] <jefinc> I am having a problem with my wireless adapter on a macbook pro. It does not show up in the network manager and when I do iwconfig it displays: no wireless extentions.  The device does show up with lspci and I have already tried manually installing the broadcom drivers as directed on the mac wiki, any suggestions?
[01:07] <harpreet_> Avast telling me there is a virus in /var/lib/clamav/daily.cld file, which I suspect is a false positive. It tells me it is a trojan. any help?
[01:07] <felix_> Soren1, this time there are packages. the list downloaded when you closed Software Origins
[01:07] <Soren1> felix_, so this is OS stuff of Ubuntu?
[01:07] <KnickLighter> I did apt-get install firestarter, Flannel, I'll see what this does
[01:08] <felix_> Soren1, you can download the list anytime (and you must if you add repos or those change) by "sudo apt-get update"
[01:08] <harpreet_> Avast telling me there is a virus in /var/lib/clamav/daily.cld file, which I suspect is a false positive. It tells me it is a trojan. any help?
[01:08] <jefinc> VCoolio1: # at the begginning of a line of code typically indicates a comment
[01:09] <KnickLighter> Flannel; on their site it says it uses a GUI but I am in CLI as I have ubuntu server edition installed
[01:09] <Soren1> felix_, isn't there an application that Ubuntu uses, to show you all the shiney new and old stand-by programs...........then you check the box and they DL automatically?
[01:09] <felix_> Soren1, there are updates for every program you have installed, being from the OS or simple programs like firefox
[01:09] <Dr_Willis> harpreet_:  perhaps thats a virus the ohter program found, or a virus 'sample/definition'
[01:09] <WindowSmasher> Hey all. Does anyone feel like 9.04 can't multi task worth jack?
[01:09] <VCoolio1> jefinc: not with ! following it, than it's an interpretor indication, like #!/bin/bash for sh-scripts
[01:09] <Dr_Willis> WindowSmasher:  works great here...
[01:09] <felix_> Soren1, there are. applications / add or remove
[01:10] <WindowSmasher> Maybe I just don't have enough ram
[01:10] <bc> WindowSmasher: running fine to me
[01:10] <jefinc> fair enough :)
[01:10] <felix_> Soren1, you can search the packages even by popularity
[01:10] <Dr_Willis> Moar Ramz is always good.
[01:10] <WindowSmasher> Yeah I only have 4GB
[01:10] <Soren1> ty
[01:10] <bc> WindowSmasher: I have 4 and it's fine to me
[01:10] <harpreet_> Dr_Willis: what does that mean? I just installed Avast and I had Clamav before. I scanned same file with Clamav, it says there is no virus
[01:10] <Mack_> ok
[01:11] <Mack_> wow irssi is SLOW
[01:11] <Soren1> I even participated in the data collection about app's...............I am cool like that ;)
[01:11] <linxeh> Mack: it is?
[01:11] <felix_> Soren1, if youre looking for great things, i recommend Openarena (Quake 3 clone), freeciv & freecol (sid's meier's games clones),
[01:11] <linxeh> oh heh
[01:11] <bc> WindowSmasher: your disks might be slow for some reason. check hdparam
[01:11] <Mack> linxeh: well it took a few secs for the msg to appear
[01:11] <felix_> Soren1, if youre interested in games ;)
[01:12] <bc> WindowSmasher: sorry, make that hdparm
[01:12] <linxeh> Mack: that just means your connection is lagged
[01:12] <Mack> well this one is fine
[01:12] <Soren1> felix_, I used to seek Greatness, now I seek Goodness
[01:12] <jefinc> I am having a problem with my wireless adapter on a macbook pro. It does not show up in the network manager and when I do iwconfig it displays: no wireless extentions.  The device does show up with lspci and I have already tried manually installing the broadcom drivers as directed on the mac wiki, any suggestions?
[01:12] <linxeh> Mack: how do you know?
[01:12] <Mack> msg's from linkinus appeared there instantly
[01:12] <linxeh> Mack: you dont see the echos from the server...
[01:12] <felix_> Soren1, better if you tell me what you want and i recommend you a program ;)
[01:12] <harpreet_> Dr_Willis: what does that mean? I just installed Avast and I had Clamav before. I scanned same file with Clamav, it says there is no virus
[01:12] <Mack> but from there took longer to appeared in my other two clients
[01:12] <Mack> appear*
[01:13] <Soren1> IRC?
[01:13] <linxeh> irssi is not slow - either you did something wrong, or your connection is lagged some how
[01:13] <pw-toxic> hi
[01:13] <casdf> tu
[01:13] <Soren1> IRC? xchat?
[01:13] <Mack> linxeh: so, hows my ping?
[01:13] <pw-toxic> i'd like to deactivate the alt  drag and drop hotkey
[01:13] <WindowSmasher> bc: I don't understand what I'm looking at (hdparm output)
[01:13] <KnickLighter> Flannel; Will this be relevant to my question?: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=119787
[01:13] <pw-toxic> how can i do this?
[01:13] <linxeh> Mack: 1 second or so :)
[01:13] <pw-toxic> everyone steals my items in diablo2 ;(
[01:13] <Ciros> irssi is quick.
[01:13] <casdf> hi; i have a question regarding s-video on a laptop running jaunty
[01:13] <Mack> well this server is slowing down SNOW LEOPARDD
[01:13] <felix_> Soren1, i like Xchat, youre using now. there are other programs but i really think this is best
[01:13] <linxeh> Mack: the 2nd one took much longer though
[01:14] <casdf> namely, nothing shows up under the display options. intel integrated graphics btw
[01:14] <Mack> linxeh: h/o
[01:14] <Mack> this client fails to
[01:14] <error> how do i un-gunzip a .gz file?
[01:14] <Soren1> I am using pidgin now, I think
[01:14] <felix_> lol
[01:14] <bc> WindowSmasher: sudo hdparm -i /dev/sdc | grep udma (replace sdc with your disk)
[01:14] <linxeh> Mack: maybe the macports irssi isnt fully compatible with snow leaopard
[01:14] <linxeh> error: gunzip file.gz
[01:14] <jrib> error: double click on it
[01:14] <felix_> Soren1, i hate it it's useless
[01:14] <felix_> imo
[01:14] <Ciros> I like xchat, purely for the fact it isnt in my console, and have no reason to have it running in console...
[01:14] <bc> WindowSmasher: the mode with the * by it is currently in use
[01:15] <error> well it is in terminal
[01:15] <linxeh> error: gunzip file.gz
[01:15] <jefinc> pw-toxic: system -> preferences -> window preferences... that allows you change it to windows key or ctrl, not sure about disabling
[01:15] <harpreet_> Avast telling me there is a virus in /var/lib/clamav/daily.cld file, which I suspect is a false positive. It tells me it is a trojan. any help?
[01:15] <christian> hello
[01:15] <casdf> help getting svideo to work on a laptop with jaunty, anyone?
[01:15] <thiebaude> Ciros: xchat is good
[01:15] <linxeh> casdf: look at the options for the xserver your graphics card needs
[01:15] <jefinc> !offtopic
[01:15] <WindowSmasher> bc: sorry. you lost me
[01:15] <pw-toxic> jefinc, chaning is enough  tahnks
[01:16] <jefinc> np :)
[01:16] <bc> WindowSmasher: did you run that command in a terminal? check out the manpage for hdparm
[01:16] <casdf> linxeh: i am terrible with xconf, is there a tutorial somewhere or instructions regarding how to add svideo?
[01:16] <WindowSmasher> oh gotcha
[01:16] <WindowSmasher> Yeah udma5 is in use
[01:16] <harpreet_> Avast telling me there is a virus in /var/lib/clamav/daily.cld file, which I suspect is a false positive. It tells me it is a trojan. any help?
[01:16] <linxeh> casdf: what graphics card is it ?
[01:16] <linxeh> casdf: as that will be your starting point.
[01:16] <jefinc> I am having a problem with my wireless adapter on a macbook pro. It does not show up in the network manager and when I do iwconfig it displays: no wireless extentions.  The device does show up with lspci and I have already tried manually installing the broadcom drivers as directed on the mac wiki, any suggestions?
[01:16] <bc> WindowSmasher: df / | grep dev | cut -d' ' -f1
[01:17] <bc> WindowSmasher: disregard previous
[01:17] <casdf> linxeh: whats the cmd to check? all i know atm is its some intel integrated thing
[01:17] <felix_> Soren1, if you want greatness try to install compiz + emerald for your desktop. look at youtube to see in action
[01:17] <bc> WindowSmasher: I guess disk isn't the problem. video maybe? hard to tell
[01:17] <WindowSmasher> bc: now what
[01:17] <linxeh> casdf: lspci will tell you, if you can read through it and work it out
[01:17] <bc> WindowSmasher: cross disk I/O off your list. no idea where to go from here. what video card?
[01:18] <wOPr> n8@all
[01:18] <Soren1> felix_, my sound is hosed in Ubuntu, even Mr Ubuntu Soung God didn't find a fix
[01:18] <WindowSmasher> I'm just frustrated. I guess no computer is ever fast enough for me lol
[01:18] <casdf> linxeh: ok, gonna go try, brb
[01:18] <WindowSmasher> NVidia 9600
[01:18] <WindowSmasher> 512 ddr2
[01:18] <bc> WindowSmasher: using nvidia's own driver, or default nvidia in Xorg?
[01:18] <prappl93> What are the changes going to be on 9.10?
[01:18] <Soren1> Sound*
[01:18] <WindowSmasher> nvidias
[01:18] <Dr_Willis> prappl93:  normally.. lots of updates.. :)
[01:19] <Kalmi> hi, anyone knows what happended to epiphany-webkit in jaunty?
[01:19] <prappl93> How do I check for Intel card updates, and how do I properly install my Wifi drivers? My card is working, I just want the official drivers running though.
[01:19] <WindowSmasher> bc: I have a couple of questionable things happening
[01:19] <bc> WindowSmasher: no more ideas here. I guess it depends on how slow it actually is.
[01:19] <felix_> Soren1, what kind oc card are you using? integrated? pci? external?
[01:19] <WindowSmasher> bc: after grub I get dmi_save_oem_string ...
[01:19] <casdf> linxeh: intel 855gm?
[01:20] <WindowSmasher> bc: Then when I shut down / reboot I get like 5 fast pc speaker beeps
[01:20] <WindowSmasher> bc: google has wielded no firm answers
[01:20] <harpreet_> Avast telling me there is a virus in /var/lib/clamav/daily.cld file, which I suspect is a false positive. It tells me it is a trojan. any help?
[01:20] <prappl93> My computer does the beep thing too
[01:21] <Crash2108> I followed all the directions found in the readme for ip2country PHP module found here: http://scriptbase.com/script.php?id=7
[01:21] <WindowSmasher> It seems that firefox is causing most of the trouble... Odd
[01:21] <bc> bc: definitely something wrong there with the beeps. I'd probably check the manual for your mainboard as a starting point. I had to google the dmi_save_oem_string myself, so I have no idea.
[01:21] <WindowSmasher> I guess I'm screwed there
[01:21] <Crash2108> Line 22, I get directory not found.  Should I change that to a real directory for PHP5, Intrepid?
[01:21] <KnickLighter> So can anyone here help me set up my ubuntu server edition as a router? it has 6 network cards, one is connecting to the internet and one other is where i want to connect another pc to
[01:22] <bc> WindowSmasher: try disabling PnP in the bios and see if it goes away
[01:23] <WindowSmasher> bc: ? how would that affect firefox?
[01:23] <WindowSmasher> oh nm
[01:23] <WindowSmasher> lol
[01:23] <WindowSmasher> kk
[01:23] <Seeker`> !enter |  WindowSmasher
[01:23]  * WindowSmasher glares at Seeker'
[01:24] <Soren1> felix_, it is a Gateway 4520GZ laptop..............5 people from here tried, then the expert who has his own channel for fixing sound issues tried..............the only solution was to make a headset work for only basic sounds
[01:24] <jefinc> KnickLighter: people on the ubuntu forums recommend shorewall
[01:24] <KnickLighter> hmm
[01:25] <linxeh> casdf:
[01:25] <linxeh> hmm
[01:25] <bc> KnickLighter: or ufw which is installed already. search help.ubuntu.com (top left) for ufw
[01:25] <felix_> Soren1, try to find a driver in the manufacturer site
[01:25] <bc> KnickLighter: err, top right
[01:25] <prappl93> I run Wine and my screen starts jerking around before the program opens, is there a way to fix this?
[01:25] <Kalmi> hi, anyone knows what happended to epiphany-webkit in jaunty?
[01:25] <linxeh> casdf: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+question/65430
[01:26] <VCoolio1> WindowSmasher: to remove beeps: disable sound in System > Preferences > Power Management > General and / or blacklist pcspeaker by opening the blacklist file (gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf) and add a line: blacklist pcspkr
[01:26] <danielrmt> Kalmi: you need the webkit team ppa
[01:26] <Soren1> felix_, getting you the info, brb.................btw, it seems to be an issue with this specific card
[01:26] <bc> prappl93: might be normal. maybe checking out video
[01:26] <kryl> I have problem with nvidia + compiz + dual head (separate X screen mode) + different resolution !
[01:26] <casdf> linxeh: ok, thanks a lot, gonna go read thru and try that :)
[01:26] <danielrmt> Kalmi: https://launchpad.net/~webkit-team/+archive/ppa
[01:26] <WindowSmasher> vcoolio1: Yeah I saw that, but it doesn't give me peace of mind. It's just sweeping a potential issue under the rug
[01:26] <prappl93> bc, I asked earlier how to check video cards for updates and no one answered
[01:26] <kryl> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/160226 < like this bug
[01:26] <KnickLighter> bc, jefinc; I'm not sure if this will help me out
[01:26] <kryl> does anyone have the same problem here ?
[01:27] <jefinc> KnickLighter: another suggestion is firestarter, a guy on the ubuntu forums suggests it is very simple to setup with wizards
[01:27] <KnickLighter> I need to route it somehow
[01:27] <hackeron> hey, does anyone know how to close firefox cleanly from the command line? -- I tried kill firefox but when restarting firefox, it asks to restore session, so wasn't shut down cleanly :(
[01:27] <VCoolio1> WindowSmasher: that's right, but at least on ubuntuforums I never saw the real problem being solved
[01:27] <KnickLighter> Yes but firestarter uses a GUI
[01:27] <felix_> Soren1, thats bad news. i boutght an ATI and had to replaced by an NVIDIA, as nor free nor propietary driver worked
[01:27] <KnickLighter> I'm in CLI as it is ubuntu serever
[01:27] <KnickLighter> server
[01:27] <bc> prappl93: not positive. if you're in gnome, check 'hardware drivers' in administration menu
[01:27] <jefinc> oh right you're running server
[01:27] <felix_> Soren1, it worked in windows perfect..
[01:27] <WindowSmasher> vcoolio1: Neither have I. I guess I'll just wait for a real explanation. If there is one
[01:28] <prappl93> I hit that button, and it says "No proprietary drivers are in use on this system", is there something wrong or what?
[01:28] <bc> KnickLighter: iptables (ufw, shorewall, etc) can do routing
[01:28] <KnickLighter> But I need help to set it up correctly
[01:29] <felix_> prappl93, what hardware do you want to install?
[01:29] <jefinc> KnickLighter: on the forums they suggest using the shorewall docs and just copying/editing to fit your circumstances
[01:29] <LaHire> Hi
[01:30] <losher> hackeron: kill -TERM <process id> is supposed to cleanly terminate an app....
[01:30] <jefinc> KnickLighter: I've never done this myself so I'm afraid I cannot go into it any deeper than suggesting the few things that I've just read
[01:30] <prappl93> felix_: I was trying to see about my Intel cards for Graphics and Internet
[01:30] <LaHire> Question: while using firefox, if i want to join a web page that does not have a "www" or a ".com" ,  Firefox put those prefixes by default. and i do not want that. How can i change this?
[01:31] <hackeron> losher: nope :( -- still asks to restore session
[01:32] <jefinc> KnickLighter: I would suggest poking around the ubuntu forums, seems to be a great place for support, as that is what it is there for...I find this channel is more of last resort for fine tuning/problems you can't find
[01:32] <bc> KnickLighter: are you trying to allow multiple pcs to use your ubuntu server as the network gateway?
[01:32] <jefinc> or rather solutions you can't find, problems are infinite, solutions are a little harder to come by sometimes :)
[01:32] <KnickLighter> bc; yes
[01:32] <KnickLighter> But at this moment only trying with my laptop
[01:33] <bc> KnickLighter: google 'ip masquerading' ubntu ufw
[01:33] <felix_> prappl93, "sudo lshw" will give you a list of your hardware and some drivers youre using
[01:33] <FireWolf> Hi
[01:33] <prappl93> felix_: I wanna know how to update them if any
[01:33] <bc> KnickLighter: third link is help.ubuntu.com
[01:34] <felix_> prappl93, surely they are up to date if youre using the free ones
[01:34] <losher> hackeron: sorry, try #firefox ?
[01:35] <losher> LaHire: you too, try #firefox
[01:35] <felix_> hackeron,
[01:35] <KnickLighter> Thanks bc I will try this
[01:35] <LaHire> will do
[01:35] <Chr|s> Open ""Gnome-Panel -> System -> Preferences -> Theme" and drop the .tar.gz into the Theme Preferences window. Where is Theme? Was the name changed to something else?
[01:35] <bc> prappl93: re, your driver, yeah that's a (potential) problem if you're using something like an nvidia card
[01:35] <jefinc> I am having a problem with my wireless adapter on my macbook pro.  It does not appear in the network manager and iwconfig displays: no wireless extentions.  The device is displayed in lspci and I have already done the manual install of the broadcom driver as per the mac wiki, any suggestions?
[01:36] <kaski> I recently installed Ubuntu on C: and I cannot access C: from Ubuntu
[01:36] <bc> prappl93: there are problems (not versed in them) with intel cards and 9.04
[01:36] <kaski> Is there anyway to access C:?
[01:36] <FireWolf> Hi?
[01:36] <kaski> Hi.
[01:36] <sebsebseb> kaski: you done something odd
[01:36] <jefinc> kaski: ubuntu installs to / not c:
[01:36] <kaski> Well let me explain
[01:36] <sebsebseb> kaski: you don't put  Ubuntu on a Windows C drive
[01:36] <jefinc> that's a better idea :)
[01:37] <kaski> I installed it from windows using wubi
[01:37] <sebsebseb> kaski: I see
[01:37] <sebsebseb> kaski: that's something else,  DON'T use Wubi
[01:37] <kaski> :(
[01:37] <kaski> it seemed to simple
[01:37] <sebsebseb> kaski: Wubi can go weird
[01:37] <sebsebseb> kaski: and it won't work as well as a real proper partitioned install
[01:37] <jefinc> !wubi
[01:38] <KnickLighter> hm bc; ERROR: problem running ufw-init
[01:38] <kaski> well, I am currently multi-booting ubuntu vista and xp
[01:38] <kaski> Vista is a 30 gb partition, not a separate harddrive
[01:38] <kaski> and shows up in ubuntu as a drive called Vista
[01:38] <bc> KnickLighter: make sure you use sudo, and make sure it's installed (dpkg -l | grep ufw)
[01:38] <sebsebseb> kaski: why Windows in the first place?  and if you got enough RAM  and not going to 3D game or something, you can run it inside  a virtual machine inside Ubuntu nicely
[01:38] <kaski> However, the drive XP where all my data is does not display
[01:38] <KnickLighter> darn holdon i think it killed my ssh
[01:38] <kaski> I have alot of work-related software only windows compatible
[01:38] <kaski> :(
[01:39] <Gourlis> Good Morning!
[01:39] <sebsebseb> kaski: I assume that's, because you installed Wubi inside XP
[01:39] <harpreet_> Avast telling me there is a virus in /var/lib/clamav/daily.cld file, which I suspect is a false positive. It tells me it is a trojan. any help?
[01:39] <kaski> So there is no way to access my files from Ubuntu?
[01:39] <sebsebseb> harpreet_: you don't even need a virus scanner installed in Ubuntu
[01:39] <sebsebseb> !virus | herpreet_
[01:39] <sebsebseb> kaski: if you had done a proper partitioned install and not done Wubi it would have been fine
[01:39] <Dr_Willis> kaski:  i would suggest  using virtualbox to utilize linux, alongside windows.. or dual booting..   ive also never messed with wubi.. its just too much of a hassle
[01:39] <dsdeiz> !virus > dsdeiz
[01:40] <kaski> Okay thanks guys
[01:40] <dsdeiz> heh, kewl
[01:40] <kaski> As long as I know its hopeless im at rest.
[01:40] <sebsebseb> kaski: get any data from Wubi, remove Wubi  and partition for real :)
[01:40] <Dr_Willis> kaski:  proberly not hopeless... but im not sure what the probelsm is..
[01:40] <Dr_Willis> ive noticed even 'geexbox' has a wubi type install it can do now..
[01:41] <kaski> It's really not that important to reformat or anything risky like that
[01:41] <sebsebseb> kaski: and with a normal  Wubi install you can't access the files for   the Windows  that it is on, as far as I know
[01:41] <kaski> I am dual-booting anyway so I just needa restart
[01:41] <InfernoLinux> When I open a terminal, My "username@systemname~$" Does not show up. What do I do
[01:41] <sebsebseb> kaski: I am saying to get rid of Wubi, so you can have a more real Ubuntu experience,  with proper partitions :)
[01:41] <kaski> Do not want.
[01:41] <kaski> :(
[01:41] <sebsebseb> kaski: and  if you do that,  you will be able to access XP and Vista partitions no problem, from Ubuntu
[01:41] <Gourlis> sebsebseb, sudo apt-get autoremove --> deletes files that are not used any more ?
[01:42] <jefinc> I am having a problem with my wireless adapter on my macbook pro.  It does not appear in the network manager and iwconfig displays: no wireless extentions.  The device is displayed in lspci and I have already done the manual install of the broadcom driver as per the mac wiki, any suggestions?
[01:42] <Winball> Having a hard time playing of .wmv. It seems to be needing Windows Media Audio 9 decoder. Anyone ?
[01:42] <InfernoLinux> gourlis  It removes what it assumes are unnessesary
[01:42] <fractur3d> Gourlis: it deletes old .deb files downloaded from previous apt sessions
[01:42] <losher> kaski: a less drastic solution would be to run Ubuntu inside vmware (or virtualbox)
[01:42] <InfernoLinux> gourlis use  sudo apt-get clean
[01:42] <Dr_Willis> Winball:  you did install the w32codecs package from medibuntu repo?
[01:42] <Gourlis> InfernoLinux, good to hear that.
[01:42] <sebsebseb> Gourlis: yes, but I would purge anything I remove so  it does config files to
[01:43] <sebsebseb> Gourlis: sudo apt-get purge   programname
[01:43] <fractur3d> Gourlis: InfernoLinux  has a good point
[01:43] <Gourlis> fractur3d, yeah thanks guys
[01:43] <sebsebseb> Winball: you need to install the codec yeah
[01:43] <bc> InfernoLinux: what shows up when you open a terminal? no prompt, nothing?
[01:44] <WoW> anyone play wow on here on ubuntu jaunty? i cant seem to get the online or cd dl to work
[01:44] <Gourlis> sebsebseb, themes i drag in my themes and are installing, after that if i want to delete them I just click on delete button and the completely delete ?
[01:44] <WoW> pm me please
[01:44] <InfernoLinux> bc exactly. The window opens and just the cursor shows. nothing else
[01:44] <Bob_Dole> with flash.. the windows firefox running under WINE, with the windows version of flash installed under WINE... well it's faster than the native version..what madness is this?!
[01:44] <InfernoLinux> bc I cant type anything
[01:44] <bc> InfernoLinux: what do you see from: echo $PS1
[01:44] <bc> InfernoLinux: ohh
[01:44] <`brandon`> everytime i use update manager: i get this error, W: GPG error: http://packages.medibuntu.org jaunty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A2783
[01:45] <bc> InfernoLinux: using gnome? try this from the run box, /usr/bin/gnome-terminal
[01:45] <WoW>  anyone play wow on here on ubuntu jaunty? i cant seem to get the online or cd dl to work
[01:45] <pegon> Anyone know how to get "Listen Music Player" to play a MMSH stream?
[01:46] <Mack> how do u cp for directories?
[01:46] <jefinc> too bad kaski left... I may have found the solution to his problem :\
[01:46] <Kalmi> Mack, you use the -R flag
[01:46] <Mack> ok thx
[01:46] <Mack> cuz it kept saying omitting
[01:46] <InfernoLinux> bc Someone suggested it might be  a DNS issue, however I edited /etc/network/interfaces and rebooted with console login, then ran apt-get install knetowrk manager, booted in GUI mode, now i have network but no console
[01:46] <Kalmi> Mack, man pages help a lot (type: man cp)
[01:46]  * Sync08 just hates firefox.
[01:46] <Mack> Kalmi: thx, i tired cp -h
[01:47] <bc> InfernoLinux: im not sure how it could be a network issue
[01:47] <grkblood13> any1 here have any1 experience with acting as a relay for stream with vlc?
[01:47] <bc> InfernoLinux: alt+ctrl+f1 and login. is the prompt still problematic there?
[01:48] <jefinc> I am having a problem with my wireless adapter on my macbook pro.  It does not appear in the network manager and iwconfig displays: no wireless extentions.  The device is displayed in lspci and I have already done the manual install of the broadcom driver as per the mac wiki, any suggestions?
[01:48] <InfernoLinux> bc im actually on kubuntu jaunty with kde4.2(?newest)
[01:49] <InfernoLinux> bc alt ctrl f1 displayed ""failed to load freetype" messeges
[01:49] <InfernoLinux> bc ctrl-c cancelled and now i have terminal
[01:49] <`brandon`> everytime i use update manager: i get this error, W: GPG error: http://packages.medibuntu.org jaunty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A2783, any idea's why this pops up?
[01:49] <Guest86786> Hey guys, just had a really nasty hard drive crash, even ddrescue only pulled 250kB out of a 74GB western digital raptor drive, 100 million errors on the drive+
[01:50] <Dr_Willis> Guest86786:   i would call that a hard drive implosion.. not a crash.
[01:50] <JediMaster> indeed
[01:50] <Talkradio> get data back is what i'd try with the drive slaved to another pc
[01:50] <bc> InfernoLinux: I'm getting lost. Plus I know almost nothing about KDE. are you saying you get the correct behavior outside of Xorg?
[01:50] <Talkradio> haha hardrive impolosion
[01:50] <JediMaster> well, now is a good time to remind everyone to backup everything important now lol!
[01:50] <JediMaster> luckily most of my important stuff was, like I said, I tried ddrescue on to an identical WD raptor drive, but no luck
[01:51] <Talkradio> it's a trip that people don't backup important stuff hell i've seen 2 day old new pc take a big fat dump
[01:51] <InfernoLinux> bc when I exited the gui mode  with ctrl-alt-f1, and hit ctrl-c It terminated the X Server
[01:51] <JediMaster> so starting from scratch, shame really, I had this machine running from debian to ubuntu 5.04 onwards lol
[01:51] <InfernoLinux> bc now I have "name@system:~$"
[01:52] <bc> InfernoLinux: ohh, startx or something like that. well is the prompt "fine" outside of X?
[01:52]  * Talkradio is sorry for you loss lol
[01:52] <InfernoLinux> bc Yes
[01:52] <Crash2108> lots
[01:52] <Crash2108> i am sorry for you lots
[01:52] <pegon> Does anyone know of a program in Ubuntu similar to timemachine in Mac?
[01:52] <JediMaster> quick question, not sure why, but when I had the livecd running before the install, it found and installed the nvidia (180?) driver but it won't find it now it's installed the OS, any ideas why?
[01:52] <bc> InfernoLinux: I dunno, something weird is going on with your bash(?) environment
[01:53] <JediMaster> "hardware drivers" says there are no proprietary drivers
[01:53] <pegon> JediMaster, ummm try running sudo apt-get update and install all the updates then reboot and see if that helps
[01:53] <ejv> ubuntu time machine: cp -R /home/user/ /external-hard-drive
[01:53] <ejv> DONE
[01:53] <InfernoLinux> bc I can only assume.... my advisor "dad" said that when he had the issue it was due to DNS not being set-up and it would not prompt because it was waiting for a reply from something
[01:53] <pegon> JediMaster, mine did the same thing till I updated it and installed all the updates then it found it again
[01:53] <JediMaster> pegon: already done
[01:53] <bc> InfernoLinux: maybe start X, then switch to another virtual console and try to launch the terminal with the --display=DISPLAY argument and see if it appears
[01:53] <pegon> JediMaster, very weird
[01:53] <whatvn> good morning, everyone
[01:54] <JediMaster> pegon: well not rebooted, but restarted X
[01:54] <JediMaster> let me reboot, brb
[01:54] <bc> InfernoLinux: --display=:0.0
[01:54] <onetwothree> hey. is there a ubuntu core application i could download?
[01:54] <pegon> JediMaster, try rebooting
[01:55] <onetwothree> iso i mean
[01:55] <pegon> onetwothree, to do what?
[01:55] <bc> InfernoLinux: if that doesn't work, outside of X, cd to the user's directory and rename any .bashrc or .bash_profile to hold.bashrc, etc, then try it again in KDE
[01:55] <onetwothree> my connection isnt too fast
[01:55] <bc> InfernoLinux: and if that doesn't work, then I'm out of ideas :P
[01:55] <pegon> onetwothree, there are a bunch of ubuntu iso's if that is what you are asking there is minimal thats just the very slim of it but you have to install everything then on top of it
[01:56] <onetwothree> thats kewl, ill get to learn :)
[01:56] <onetwothree> i mean a 9.04 by the way. the latest version.
[01:57] <vorian> where does apt store packages when upgrading?
[01:58]  * bc thinks his cpu may indeed be on fire
[01:58] <onetwothree> so. where do i download the minimal ubuntu iso?
[01:58] <VCoolio1> vorian: /var/cache/apt
[01:58] <`brandon`> this 9.04 is causing alot of errors for me
[01:58] <LjL> !minimal | onetwothree
[01:59] <AstralSin> is there a fix for flash video being so jumpy?
[01:59] <LjL> onetwothree: even if you just get Minimal, a lot of packages will have to be downloaded from the internet when you install it, unless you install a text-only system
[01:59] <`brandon`> !error | `brandon`
[01:59] <pegon> AstralSin, mine did that too till I install adobe flash player 10 with ndiswrapper
[01:59] <AstralSin> hmmm lemme try that
[02:00] <JediMaster> pegon: reboot worked thanks
[02:00] <onetwothree> my internet downloads at like 10 kb/sec so i need a small ubuntu
[02:00] <JediMaster> it found the driver, then installed, but had to restart X by hand
[02:00] <pegon> JediMaster, welcome glad I could help :)
[02:00] <she_dyed> pegon maybe you mean nspluginwrapper or something
[02:01] <InfernoLinux> bc no go =(
[02:01] <pegon> she_dyed, yeah that lol sorry I mispelled lol
[02:01] <AstralSin> pegon: is there a howto anywhere?
[02:01] <onetwothree> there isnt like a 50 mb installer?
[02:01] <LjL> onetwothree, even a "small ubuntu" will be big on a slow connection like that.
[02:01] <LjL> onetwothree: no. there is a 10mb installer, but it will pull packages *from the internet while it installs*
[02:01] <bc> InfernoLinux: the --display one you mean?
[02:02] <pegon> AstralSin, umm yeah let me find it
[02:02] <onetwothree> i know i live in a third world country, so umm not much of a choice there, i have.
[02:02] <InfernoLinux> oh... hang on a sec
[02:02] <LjL> !shipit | onetwothree
[02:02] <she_dyed> onetwothree, what about getting a linuxformat magazine with a cover CD or DVD?
[02:03] <onetwothree> ummmmmm nope....not much linux awareness here. people here use windows. so i have to download what i want....very few linux users
[02:03] <onetwothree> heck very few computer users
[02:03] <InfernoLinux> bc you wanted me to type "startx --display:0.0"
[02:03] <pegon> AstralSin, you can try this now this isn't the one I did...but I might try this install instead of using the ndis thing http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2008/05/howto-install-flash-player-10-astro.html
[02:03] <ham9000> hi, i'm getting this from apt: "W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com jaunty-security Release: The following signatures were invalid ..." i have tried to "apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.security.ubuntu.com" with the code but it isn't working
[02:03] <MrSmurfing> I have a Mythbuntu machine and I'm getting kind of a horizontal line distortion when playing some files, like the machine can't keep up. It's a 64 bit quad core intel processor with a nvidia 7200 256Mb graphics card. I have a 1080p Tv and a 1050 monitor hooked up to it. Any ideas what I need to upgrade or settings I need to change to get better video? only intrested in 2d.
[02:04] <AstralSin> pagon: all i'm seeing for flash and ndiswrapper is for x64, i'm in x32
[02:04] <ham9000> er s/keyserver.security/keyserver./
[02:04] <linxeh> MrSmurfing: maybe you've got a vsync issue
[02:04] <linxeh> MrSmurfing: does the image tear ?
[02:04] <bc> InfernoLinux: no, startx but then switch to the terminal, Ctrl+Z and try to launch the kde terminal with the --display=:0.0 argument and see if the terminal displays in KDE
[02:04] <MrSmurfing> Not sure what tearing is but normally I only see the artifacts during panning shots.
[02:04] <onetwothree> there isnt one on fluxbox yet?
[02:05] <jeff__> how do i put a sound file through /dev/audio? i tried it but the sound comes out as static. is there another way?
[02:05] <billybigrigger> is anyone here aware of how to get my mysql database and users back to stock? dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server does nothing, even after purging mysql-server and apt-get installing
[02:05] <LjL> onetwothree: according to my calculations, it should take about 7 hours to download ubuntu from the minimal cd installer (after downloading the minimal cd, which won't take long)
[02:05] <MrSmurfing> Also when I drag a window around really fast using wobbly windows
[02:05] <bc> InfernoLinux: ctrl+Z then type bg by the way
[02:05] <onetwothree> Wow......
[02:06] <PacoBuntu> GPG error:  http://repository.cairo-dock.org jaunty Release: The following signatures couldnt be verified because the public key isnt available: NO_PUBKEY 1392A97E41317877 <-- How can I correct this?
[02:06] <InfernoLinux> what is ctrl-z in kde
[02:06] <LjL> onetwothree: and that's a stripped down ubuntu, without things like openoffice
[02:06] <InfernoLinux> bc what is ctrl-z
[02:06] <LjL> InfernoLinux: generally "undo".
[02:06] <she_dyed> onetwothree, what about tinier distros like feather or damnsmall or puppy
[02:06] <dsdeiz> doesn't ctrl-z suspend a process?
[02:06] <dsdeiz> oh okay
[02:06] <onetwothree> i have dsl i dont like it much.
[02:06] <dsdeiz> i'm running slax in my usb he
[02:06] <Demonicdata> Anyone here setup i2p with bittorrent on ubuntu/linux?
[02:06] <bc> InfernoLinux: not in KDE, in your console in alt+ctrl+f1
[02:06] <LjL> dsdeiz: on the terminal, yes, not in kde
[02:06] <Ciros> PacoBuntu:  goto cairo dock's website and get their gpg key, and they should advise how to install it iirc.
[02:07] <dsdeiz> oh.. hehe sorry
[02:07] <PacoBuntu> Ciros:
[02:07] <onetwothree> package repo on ubuntu is pretty good.....how long would it take me if i just want the CLI
[02:07] <PacoBuntu> i dont want to install cairo dock
[02:07] <PacoBuntu> i uninstalled it
[02:07] <PacoBuntu> i need to know thow to correct this GPG verification error
[02:07] <onetwothree> from there i can get X and busy or fluxbox.....then work through the gui
[02:07] <bc> InfernoLinux: startx, then alt+ctrl+F2, login, then try to launch the terminal with the --display=:0.0 argument, then switch to F1 and see if the terminal appeared
[02:07] <Demonicdata> I tried to install that,nothing poped up so i have no idea what its about.how do some people get widgets and big icons on the panels?yes i'm a newbie
[02:07] <dsdeiz> fluxbox ftw!
[02:07] <onetwothree> sounds plausable?
[02:07] <Pici> PacoBuntu: Remove the repository from your sources.  Check System>Administration>Software Sources
[02:08] <Ciros> PacoBuntu:   then just go into your synaptic and remove it.    and then remove their source from your sources.list
[02:08] <LjL> onetwothree: ubuntu-minimal is only 42 megabytes, so little more than an hour should get you a very bare-bone CLI-only system
[02:08] <PacoBuntu> i already did that Ciros
[02:08] <bc> InfernoLinux: I have no idea what the KDE terminal app is named, so you'll have to fill in the blanks there.
[02:08] <PacoBuntu> i didnt install it via sources list it was in add and remove
[02:08] <onetwothree> ahhhh alright....i have a vbox....i can try it on that first.
[02:09] <she_dyed> its konsole
[02:09] <LjL> onetwothree: you can use http://apt.alturl.com/ to calculate how big a metapackage will be to download (without recommends)
[02:09] <PacoBuntu> i didnt add an entry for cairo in sources.list Ciros
[02:09] <Ciros> PacoBuntu:  that means you have removed cairodock,   now go to your software sources, like pici said and remove the source from your list.
[02:09] <Pici> PacoBuntu: You must have. We do not magically add things to the sources.list
[02:09] <LjL> onetwothree: err, you're looking for the smallest possible installation because your connection is slow... but you're going to make a *test download* first?
[02:09] <bc> she_dyed: ahh
[02:09] <jie> hi
[02:09] <jie> is anyone here
[02:09] <jie> hello
[02:09] <LjL> jie: no
[02:09] <PacoBuntu> but i didnt add any source from cairo dock to my sourceslist it wasnt necessary
[02:10] <PacoBuntu> it was in add and remove
[02:10] <InfernoLinux> bc it is Konsole but the --display flag isnt there
[02:10] <losher> onetwothree: I'm with she_dyed. I think you'd be better of with http://www.damnsmalllinux.org
[02:10] <Ciros> PacoBuntu:  that is the only reason why you would get the gpg key error, if you added it in the sources.
[02:10] <InfernoLinux> bc it isnt a flag for bash either
[02:10] <bc> InfernoLinux: konsole --help doesn't list a display option?
[02:10] <ham9000> is there even any need for security.ubuntu.com in my apt list these days?
[02:10] <Ciros> atleast that error
[02:10] <Pici> PacoBuntu: Regardless of whether you did or didnt, there is something in your sources giving you that error.
[02:10] <bullgard4> After thawing my wireless network interface is not working. How can I use the iwconfig command to bring up the wireless interface WG511 up? (My wireless driver is prism54.ko.)
[02:10] <onetwothree> what if i cant workmy way through the installation? :P i am not very good with it now
[02:10] <VCoolio1> PacoBuntu: maybe the add/remove did it automatically? Or doesn't it do things like that?
[02:10]  * JediMaster finds a backup of stuff he thought he'd lost!!
[02:10] <Pici> VCoolio1: It doesn't do that.
[02:10] <PacoBuntu> I am a newb how do i determine what is causing it?
[02:11] <syntax\> anyone in here know how to make sopcast work on ubuntu jaunty?
[02:11] <PacoBuntu> can i assume it was the last entry i tried to install webkit in ubuntu
[02:11] <onetwothree> i guess though dsl hasnt much a repo
[02:11] <Pici> PacoBuntu: We've already told you.
[02:11] <PacoBuntu> and i added a source for that to the list
[02:11]  * JediMaster cheers for one internal backup hdd, one external usb backup hdd and two off-site backups
[02:11] <PacoBuntu> Pici?
[02:11] <Demonicdata> I have a program that i need java for,isn't java a security threat even on linux and which package should i get if I want it?
[02:11] <PacoBuntu> you told me to undo sometime i never did in the first place
[02:11] <bc> JediMaster: i think you may be as paranoid as I am :P
[02:11] <prappl93> How do I tell if my Wired connection is the connection I am using?
[02:11] <Pici> PacoBuntu: Please humour us and check.
[02:12] <JediMaster> bc: it pays
[02:12] <JediMaster> =D
[02:12] <JediMaster> nearly lost 5 years of work
[02:12] <grkblood13> does any1 have any experience with restreaming a live feed using vlc?
[02:12] <grkblood13> im having issues
[02:12] <InfernoLinux> bc sry it was in --help-qt
[02:12] <AstralSin> Demonicdata: every peice of software installed on your machine is a potential security threat
[02:12] <AstralSin> java is no more of one than any of the rest
[02:12] <grkblood13> i have an ogg.m3u im trying to restream through vlc but the client machiens dont like it, they throw errors
[02:13] <Demonicdata> true I am worried about some piece of software calling out,spying,But i have heard its not a threat on linux,whats the truth?
[02:13] <AstralSin> java won't do that
[02:13] <PacoBuntu> Pici i am not sure which entry is supposed to be faulty: http://pastebin.ca/1430468
[02:13] <she_dyed> onetwothree: keep an eye out on public bulletin boards, for signs about a LAN party or installfest
[02:13] <AstralSin> unless you download your java from some shifty-eyed russian
[02:14] <she_dyed> onetwothree, those might be linux usergroup LUG meetings
[02:14] <Demonicdata> haha so i'm just going to download the jdk.what about on tor,is java a threat
[02:14] <Demonicdata> at least i won't get a fraggin ask toolbar like it does on windows
[02:14] <AstralSin> no, its not
[02:14] <LjL> Pici: that will be sources.list.d then
[02:14] <whatvn> hi everyone, I'm using Ubuntu 9.04. sometimes my computer freezes and I cannot use keyboard. I must hit power button to force reboot. dmesg show this message error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/177567/ . someone got this problem before, please give me solution?
[02:14] <JediMaster> guys, this is the little voice in the back of your mind that keeps telling you to make backups that you put to the side and ignore, shouting a bit and telling your to get off your arse and backup important stuff right now!
[02:14] <AstralSin> there is no traditional spyware on *nix systems
[02:14] <prappl93> How do I install the drivers for my Broadcom Ethernet card?
[02:14] <InfernoLinux> bc so I typed konsole --display :0.0 but it says "unable to set terminal attributes"
[02:14] <JediMaster> and those that have backups, make sure they're valid and you can restore from them
[02:15] <AstralSin> JediMaster: backups are for wimps, live on the edge!
[02:15] <onetwothree> alright....i dont understand sorry. oh well.......so there isnt a ubuntu core to be downloaded then?
[02:15] <bc> InfernoLinux: konsole --display=:0.0
[02:15] <JediMaster> AstralSin: would have just lost 5 years of work if I hadn't
[02:15] <AstralSin> onetwothree: download ubuntu server and don't select any packages to install
[02:15] <Pici> PacoBuntu: Can you pastebin the result of:  ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[02:15] <rkitect> would it stand to reason that the line in mtab can be used in fstab to mount a drive at boot?
[02:15] <LjL> onetwothree: look, download the Minimal CD. it will work for you, it's very small. once you start it, it will ask you whether you want a small CLI-only system, or what.
[02:15] <WindowSmasher> Hi all! I'm looking for some assistance with the gnome-main-menu / slab. The size has grown out of control (that's what she said). Can anyone assist me in adjusting the size?
[02:15] <InfernoLinux> bc same thing
[02:16] <losher> onetwothree: Is this any use: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-pk
[02:16] <onetwothree> okay....thank you
[02:16] <indah> hell
[02:16] <prappl93> How can I tell if my ethernet card's drivers are working? I don't want to disconnect from the wireless due to the fact I am on here...
[02:17] <Dr_Willis> prappl93:  try ifconfig command?
[02:17] <TheFunkbomb> I was wondering if anyone here runs a dual boot between Win7 and ubuntu 9.04.  If you do, have you set up a separate partition so you can share files quickly?
[02:17] <LjL> onetwothree: it's a text-mode installation but it isn't very hard really, you just need to follow the steps carefully. of course it might not be very easy to set up internet connection and things if you're, for instance, on wireless on a CLI-only system
[02:17] <RHorse> WindowSmasher use alt + Rt mouse button
[02:17] <eseven73> I would just like to add to JediMaster's comments, really good backup software is sbackup, and rsync + cron (there are GUI's for them too: grsync and gnome-schedule)
[02:17] <WindowSmasher> rhorse: ?
[02:17] <maxmahem> Any help on getting the built in microphone on my dell Insperion 1330 working? Running 9.04 AMD 64.
[02:17] <Demonicdata> I keep t rying to download java but it keeps saying it conflicts with another program installed and to use synaptic,but when i try and run a java app from terminal it says i need java,whats the deal
[02:18] <Demonicdata> can someone link me to the package i want to get
[02:18] <bc> InfernoLinux: look at last response here -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/318945
[02:18] <prappl93> Okay, my computer is weird... my Wireless is registering as Eth1 instead of Wifi0, how can I change this?
[02:18] <Flannel> !java | Demonicdata
[02:18] <maxmahem> prappl93: thats normal as far as I know. Wired is eth0 and wireless is generaly eth1
[02:18] <WindowSmasher> !slab
[02:19] <prappl93> Okay...
[02:19] <prappl93> Hold on
[02:19] <WindowSmasher> !gnome-main-menu
[02:19] <InfernoLinux> bc this one "Don't know if this helps but I got it working by reinstalling udev and running manually init.d script mountdevsubfs.sh as a super-user."
[02:19] <losher> TheFunkbomb: 9.04 will mount ntfs and fat partitions. Windows doesn't deal well with ext3 in my experience...
[02:19] <PacoBuntu> Pici: ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ is not generating any results
[02:19] <KnickLighter> bc; still here?
[02:19] <Demonicdata> I tried to install it from add/remove and it said it conflicts with something etc etc.its irritating
[02:19] <prappl93> How do I use Eth0 as default connection?
[02:19] <bc> InfernoLinux: yeah, worth a try
[02:19] <onetwothree> alright, thanks ill try that. cuz even Xubuntu is big for i. you know. oh well ill try your way. thank you
[02:19] <KnickLighter> bc, may I pm you for a few?
[02:19] <InfernoLinux> bc <3 Thanks
[02:19] <bc> KnickLighter: I'm here. what were we talking about?
[02:19] <grkgeek> Hello im looking for a way to add a second language for typing (japanese) is there any way to do this ?
[02:19] <TheFunkbomb> losher, so, would I be okay making a separate NTFS partition for all my files and firefox/thunderbird profiles?
[02:19] <bc> InfernoLinux: gl, hope it fixes it b/c im out of ideas. :)
[02:20] <gex> Does anyone know how to configure the gnome panels so that they will start up in the hidden state?
[02:20] <rkitect> is the line showing a mount in mtab the same line that should be used in fstab to mount a filesystem at boot?
[02:20] <grkgeek> !language > grkgeek
[02:20] <losher> TheFunkbomb: yeah, and then you could mount that same partition in both windows and linux....
[02:20] <sebsebseb> grkgeek: you can add the keyboard changers yeah
[02:20] <Viking668> What app screenshots other applications? I know what it is for KDE, but I don't have KDE installed on my Ubuntu machine.
[02:20] <TheFunkbomb> losher, cool.  Thanks
[02:20] <KnickLighter> bc; the laptop is now on the same network, gets the IP that it should get, but my server does not forward the data to the router
[02:20] <sebsebseb> grkgeek: right click the panel add to panel and find it there
[02:21] <Soren_> test
[02:21] <Decepticon> test failed!
[02:21] <maxmahem> prappl93: shouldn't be necessary. Just don't plug in a ethernet cable while running on wireless. If you want to switch over to the wired, you should be able to click on the net pannel app and slect disable wireless
[02:21] <Soren_> ;p;
[02:21] <sebsebseb> grkgeek: and then switch between keyboard languages
[02:22] <gex> Of course, I know that one can right-click on the panel and choose to autohide; and also that I can ask it to provide the show/hide buttons on its side. But the autohide still leaves an ugly strip on the screen (is it possible to force this strip to be zero pixels high?); and I have to manually click on the show/hide buttons after every boot in order to hide the panel.
[02:22] <grkgeek> sebsebseb: thank you once again m8 you are priceless
[02:22]  * Soren_ steals Decepticon's All Spark
[02:22] <sebsebseb> grkgeek: I helped you with something before?
[02:22] <Pici> PacoBuntu: Can you check in System>Administration Software sources in the third party sources tab?
[02:22] <bullgard4> After thawing my wireless network interface is not working. How can I use the iwconfig command to bring up the wireless interface WG511 up? (My wireless driver is prism54.ko.)
[02:23] <grkgeek> sebsebseb: yes editing /etc/deny.hosts
[02:23] <Soren_> felix_, you left?
[02:23] <sebsebseb> grkgeek: no that wasn't me
[02:23] <grkblood13> grkgeek :)
[02:23] <grkblood13> nice name
[02:23] <prappl93> I tried running off of my Ethernet, but nothing would connect.
[02:23] <bc> KnickLighter: pastebin the output of `route -n` on the server
[02:23] <RHorse> bullgard4 iwconfig [dev] for  open
[02:23] <grkgeek> grkblood13: etsi :)
[02:23] <PacoBuntu> GPG error:   http://ppa.launchpad.net jaunty Release: The following signatures couldnt be verified because the public key isnt available: NO_PUBKEY 28A8205077558DD0 <-- this is the error i get btw when i do: sudo apt-get update @ Pici
[02:23] <maxmahem> prappl93: You have everything configured correctly? DHCP/Static IP?
[02:24] <syntax\> anyone using sopcast on 9.04 here?
[02:24] <prappl93> maxmahem, I have no idea
[02:24] <grkblood13> dont speek it :( just grew up in a greek orthodox church and have it in my blood
[02:24] <KnickLighter> bc; http://rafb.net/p/bBkVgt79.html
[02:24] <grkblood13> speak*
[02:24] <prappl93> I don't think the drivers are installed properly for my card
[02:24] <grkgeek> sebsebseb: i remember correctly it was either that or iptables but you helpped in some way
[02:24] <palin> Hi all! anyone here help me with webmin? It will not install modules give me --- 'Failed to install module from  : File does not exist'
[02:24] <Stargazer> Hey guys, i was just wondering, instead of using the nVidia driver, how do i switch back to the default ubuntu?
[02:24] <bc> KnickLighter: how about `iptables -L -n`
[02:25] <palin> and that from a downloaded mod
[02:25] <sebsebseb> grkgeek: iptables unlikely unless the bot thing for iptables counts
[02:25] <maxmahem> prappl93, could be but in my experience wireless is much less likely to be working then wired.
[02:25] <bc> KnickLighter: probably need sudo with that
[02:25] <PacoBuntu> Pici: i can see a cairo-dock source there, but it isnt in the /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:25] <grkgeek> grkblood13: greek american also m8 so no worries
[02:25] <KnickLighter> bc; http://rafb.net/p/fEL1OD77.html
[02:25] <prappl93> maxmahem: wired and wireless are two different company drivers
[02:25] <nA1828KcFz9q> What is the location of the .vimperator folder in XP?
[02:25] <idhtns> i'm trying to prevent multiple instances of a program from running at once.  i don't see setlock anywhere -- what's the right way to do this?
[02:26] <PacoBuntu> Do i need to remove, or just untick it?
[02:26] <coz_> Stargazer,  you mean you want to disable the nvidia driver?
[02:26] <rkitect> are the lines in mtab usable in fstab to mount a filesystem?
[02:26] <jrib> nA1828KcFz9q: that's more appropriate in the vimperator room...
[02:26] <KnickLighter> bc: eth1 is where my laptop is plugged in
[02:26] <maxmahem> prappl93: what does lshw -class network tell you?
[02:26] <bullgard4> RHorse: Your answer is wrong. It outputs: "eth1 NOT READY! ESSID:off/any". And the NETGEAR card's LEDs are not blinking.
[02:26] <grkgeek> sebsebseb: either way it helped me in some way.
[02:27] <Pici> PacoBuntu: It looks like that key error is due to missing the docky GPG key for their ppa
[02:27] <coz_> Stargazer, go into  /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change the line  Driver  "nvidia" to   Driver  'nv"
[02:27] <sebsebseb> grkgeek: ok no problem
[02:27] <Pici> !ppagpg | PacoBuntu use this
[02:27] <prappl93> maxmahem: which part
[02:27] <PacoBuntu> ok ty Pici
[02:27] <Pici> PacoBuntu: This is the correct page where their gpg key is listed: http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?search=0x28A8205077558DD0&op=index
[02:27] <maxmahem> prappl93: the part about your wired interface
[02:27] <PacoBuntu> Pici but i dont want to install cairo-dock so do i still need to do all that?
[02:28] <palin> none can help with webmin
[02:28] <palin> ?
[02:28] <prappl93> maxmahem: http://paste.ubuntu.com/177578/
[02:28] <RHorse> bullgard4 try iwconfig eth1 -essid essid
[02:28] <grkgeek> gah just deleted my panel
[02:28] <eseven73> !webmin | palin
[02:28] <Ciros> PacoBuntu:  remove the source from 3rd party software then, and it should cease asking you
[02:28] <RHorse> bullgard4 try iwconfig eth1 -essid [essid]
[02:28] <bc> KnickLighter: is 192.168.2.x the other machines?
[02:28] <losher> idhtns: the usual way is to write the pid into a known file & then new instances can check the file to see if that pid is valid. Not bulletproof, but ok for programs that don't start quicklly. Is that what you mean?
[02:28] <PacoBuntu> thanks a lot Pici
[02:28] <KnickLighter> Well no, i messed around in it
[02:29] <KnickLighter> bc; 192.168.1.254 is my router/gateway
[02:29] <bc> KnickLighter: in other words, what is the IP of the machine you want to go through the gateway?
[02:29] <KnickLighter> 192.168.1.40 is the IP it has now
[02:29] <KnickLighter> But I assigned 192.168.1.40-45 in the config
[02:29] <grkblood13> any1 here use icecast?
[02:30] <grkblood13> please someone say yes
[02:30] <bc> KnickLighter: try: sudo iptables -I POSTROUTING -s 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0 -j MASQUERADE
[02:30] <pvvni> grkblood13: nope
[02:30] <raylu> grkblood13: jut ask your question
[02:30] <Stargazer> Coz_: sorry for the delay... there are multiple "Driver "nvidia"", do i change them all ?
[02:30] <KnickLighter> bc: iptables: No chain/target/match by that name
[02:30] <grkblood13> well , im trying to make icecst compatible with mp3s
[02:30] <idhtns> losher: i'm trying to run getmail in a cron job and don't want it to start if the last run hasn't finished.  i know the utility setlock will do exactly this, just can't find it (or an alternative) on ubuntu.  do you know of any?
[02:30] <maxmahem> prappl93: you have ip=10.42.43.1 listed for your ip, is this correct for your network?
[02:30] <grkblood13> unfortunately, they casnt help me in icecast because of legal issues i think
[02:30] <grkgeek> sebsebseb: instead of deleting a part of the panel i deleted the all the lower panel is there any way to regain it
[02:30] <idhtns> losher: perhaps your suggestion would work, but i don't think my scripting abilities are up to it (:
[02:30] <prappl93> maxmahem: I have no clue...
[02:30] <coz_> Stargazer,   well go to pstebin.ca and paste the contents of that file give me the link
[02:31] <sebsebseb> !panels | grkgeek
[02:31] <raylu> !panel | grkgeek
[02:31] <bc> KnickLighter: ahh, FORWARD is the chain. Looks like it's already accept policy though
[02:31] <grkblood13> i have icegenerator but all of the examples i see are for transcoding existing mp3s, i want to transcode a live stream
[02:31] <maxmahem> prappl93: on the settings for your wireless, is it set to DHCP?
[02:31] <bullgard4> RHorse: '~$ iwconfig eth1 -essid [essid]; iwconfig: unknown command "-essid".'
[02:31] <prappl93> maxmahem: should be....
[02:31] <KnickLighter> bc; what do you suggest I should do
[02:31] <RHorse> bullgard4 try iwconfig eth1 essid [essid]  no  dash
[02:31] <maxmahem> prappl93: set it the same on your wired connection then.
[02:31] <KnickLighter> I used the following tutorial: http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:SKeDARxlTCUJ:theshusts.ca/sourcefiles/SetupUbuntu606asarouterfirewall_alt.pdf+how+to+set+up+ubuntu+server+as+router&cd=3&hl=nl&ct=clnk&gl=nl&client=firefox-a
[02:31] <Stargazer> Coz_: http://pastebin.com/m7823a9c2
[02:31] <prappl93> maxmahem:  how
[02:32] <KnickLighter> its a pdf
[02:32] <dsdeiz> RHorse: what country are you from? :)
[02:32] <grkblood13> how can i transode a live stream in mp3 format?
[02:32] <th0r> grkblood13: you can capture a live stream with streamripper
[02:32] <maxmahem> prappl93: right click on the network applet, select edit connection, and go to the wired tab.
[02:32] <grkblood13> th0r, can i restream it live?
[02:32] <xulzh> j
[02:33] <JediMaster> can I assume this is fried and no chance at recovering? http://pastebin.com/d3573eb73
[02:33] <bc> KnickLighter: that shorewall config is massive and confusing. I would suggest starting with bare iptables and the iptables NAT howto until you get it to work. That shorewall config is confusing to me. http://tldp.org/HOWTO/html_single/Masquerading-Simple-HOWTO/
[02:33] <grkblood13> im using icecast but that doesnt support mp3
[02:33] <xulzh> join #ubuntu
[02:33] <eseven73> xulzh, id rather not :P
[02:33] <grkblood13> ur in ubuntu
[02:33] <losher> idhtns: weird. I don't know why there isn't a setlock for Ubuntu....
[02:33] <rkitect> can i use the line from mtab for a filesystem that is mounted in fstab to have that filesystem mounted at boot?
[02:33] <bullgard4> RHorse: Ubuntu accepts this command when using it with the sudo prefix. But my NETGEAR card's LEDs do not start blinking.
[02:33] <th0r> grkblood13: streamripper runs in the background in addition to icecast or whatever
[02:33] <maxmahem> prappl93: a little tricky to step-by-step through this, but bassicaly you need to set up a wired connection that will default to DHCP (if thats what your using in your network).
[02:33] <coz_> Stargazer,  yeah go ahead change them all
[02:34] <th0r> grkblood13: in fact, you can run streamripper and not even be listening to the music at the time
[02:34] <KnickLighter> bc: Thanks, I will look at this tomorrow then, I need some sleep its 03:34:12 AM and I need to get up @ 8 for work
[02:34] <RHorse> bullgard4 wep or wpa?
[02:34] <maxmahem> prappl93: auto wired should do this by default, but yours is apparently configured differently.
[02:34] <grkblood13> th0r its my stream
[02:34] <ThePhoenix> hey anyone know why Firefox runs slow, hogs resources, and frequently freezes on my system?
[02:34] <coz_> Stargazer,  although that is way too many Section Devices
[02:34] <grkblood13> its for a live radio show
[02:34] <grkblood13> talk show*
[02:34] <Sync08> gymu wtf ?
[02:34] <eseven73> ThePhoenix, that's just the way firefox rolls, have you tried Opera yet?
[02:34] <Stargazer> Coz_: i change them to 'nv,' right ?
[02:35] <idhtns> losher: ah, found it, setlock is in daemontools.  thanks!
[02:35] <grkblood13> what i would ideally like is so not even encode in ogg, since thatll jsut use up processing power
[02:35] <bc> KnickLighter: holycrap, I'd be in bed. heheh. tomorrow start out with a simple iptables rule set with default 'accept' on all chains, then confirm it's working, then start over and debug from there.
[02:35] <ThePhoenix> dont you have to buy Opera?
[02:35] <eseven73> nope
[02:35] <coz_> Stargazer,  yes  wherever it says "nvidia"  change that to "nv"
[02:35] <Sync08> no
[02:35] <coz_> Stargazer,  you can try one at a time  and restart x to test it if you like
[02:35] <Sync08> opera is way better than firefox.
[02:35] <pvvni> Opera is pretty sexy.
[02:35] <ThePhoenix> is Opera 100% javascript compatible/
[02:35] <eseven73> so much faster than firefox
[02:35] <ThePhoenix> ?
[02:35] <Pici> !best
[02:35] <Sync08> damn firefox always crashes, opera didnt crashed even with tabs around 200
[02:35] <prappl93> Maxmahem, still there?
[02:35] <Stargazer> Coz_: aside from restarting... is there another way to restart X ?
[02:36] <gex> Opera hasn't firebug ;)
[02:36] <Sync08> also I really like the operas widgets
[02:36] <pvvni> ThePhoenix: Hard to say. Javascript doesn't have a full definition set for the language, as it's an evolved offset of emca script
[02:36] <KnickLighter> Yeah bc, but this stuff keeps me awake, thank you for all help though! I'll idle here and check some stuff out after the weekend by the way, as today is my gf's bday so I'm gone for the weekend..
[02:36] <maxmahem> prappl93: yes
[02:36] <eseven73> ThePhoenix, java works about 90% in Opera
[02:36] <coz_> Stargazer,  yes  the proper way ... and dont do anytihng till you have written this down
[02:36] <Sync08> lol firebug
[02:36] <pvvni> ThePhoenix: If you mean does it have the same level of compatability as firefox, then yes
[02:36] <Sync08> why the fuck some people try to send an DCC chat on this channel ?
[02:36] <ThePhoenix> does Opera have thousands of extensions and the ability to make your own?
[02:36] <pvvni> ThePhoenix: but no browser is fully compliant, because there's no definition.
[02:36] <coz_> Stargazer,   ctrl+alt+F1  then log in  then   sudo  /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[02:36] <bc> KnickLighter: I'll try to help tomorrow if you catch me typing
[02:36] <pvvni> ThePhoenix: Yea
[02:36] <eseven73> !language | Sync08
[02:37] <ThePhoenix> is it open source?
[02:37] <Sync08> sorry old habits
[02:37] <pvvni> ThePhoenix: yea
[02:37] <ThePhoenix> hmm
[02:37] <coz_> Stargazer,  next time you have to do that all you need to do is log on then hit the up arrow to repeat that command
[02:37] <gex> opera open source?
[02:37] <eseven73> ThePhoenix, is closed sourced
[02:37] <KnickLighter> Alright bc, good night and thanks again
[02:37] <eseven73> last I heard anyways
[02:37] <ThePhoenix> does it have an awsome logo thats a fox made of fire?
[02:37] <pvvni> ThePhoenix: Yes,
[02:37] <pvvni> but amazingly
[02:37] <bc> KnickLighter: see ya
[02:37] <pvvni> the fox mixed with the fire looks like an O
[02:38] <maxmahem> prappl93: that work for you?
[02:38] <anonusr> In Jaunty, is trackerd missing? I can't seem to start tracker even though it is installed.
[02:38] <ThePhoenix> wow pvvni. Wow
[02:38] <gex> iceweasel rules!
[02:38] <Stargazer> Coz_: are you thinking virtual desktop ?
[02:38] <VCoolio1> ThePhoenix: gex beat me while typing, swiftweasel +1
[02:38] <coz_> Stargazer,  for the restart of X?
[02:38] <anonusr> gex: why would you run iceweasel instead of firefox? Aren't they identical?
[02:38] <Stargazer> Coz_: yes.
[02:39] <VCoolio1> ThePhoenix: wait, thei're different I believe, theres a lot of choices
[02:39] <eseven73> anonusr, iceweasel is less resource intensive I think
[02:39] <maxmahem> I do belive there is a bug in the current ubuntu version of firefox that causes it to flush to disk a bit to frequently, causing it to freeze up at times.
[02:39] <ThePhoenix> wait is iceweasel real? I thought it was a joke?
[02:39] <coz_> Stargazer,  no what i told you to do is the proper way to restart x   this way all applications are shut down properly before you restart it other wise you can get either or both gnome or nautilus  not starting back up properly
[02:39] <pvvni> ThePhoenix: nm, I lied about it being open source
[02:39] <gex> the logo in iceweasel is better ;)
[02:39] <anonusr> ThePhoenix: it's the only thing available if you run debian
[02:39] <pvvni> ThePhoenix: iceweasel? No it's very real.
[02:39] <georun> Hey, I'm trying to learn
[02:39] <RedSocrates> iceweasel is just Firefox without the official branding, it's been re-branded
[02:40] <RedSocrates> afaik
[02:40] <bullgard4> RHorse: If 'wep or wpa' is irrelevant to the LEDs blinking or not.
[02:40] <Stargazer> Coz_: ctrl+alt+F1 logs me out, doesn't it ?
[02:40] <pvvni> Pretty much
[02:40] <maxmahem> there is also "a browser" which is firefox without the branding IIRC.
[02:40] <ThePhoenix> what a bout the real "firefox"?
[02:40] <coz_> Stargazer,  it puts you into text console
[02:40] <bullgard4> RHorse: If 'wep or wpa' is irrelevant if the LEDs are blinking or not.
[02:40] <anonusr> RedSocrates: I think there are also some debian specific patches added as well.
[02:40] <pvvni> ThePhoenix: the panda?
[02:40] <RedSocrates> SWIFTweasel, however, != iceweasel
[02:40] <ThePhoenix> wait thats right
[02:40] <ThePhoenix> my bad
[02:40] <RHorse> bullgard4 it is relevent if  you want to get it going.
[02:40] <pvvni> ThePhoenix: They dont process html very well
[02:40] <ThePhoenix> i meant fennece
[02:40] <pvvni> ThePhoenix: I've been to the zoo. I know.
[02:40] <Stargazer> Coz_: i'll be back in a couple... i guess.
[02:40] <RedSocrates> anonusr: gotcha, that may be
[02:40] <ThePhoenix> i mix those up sometimes
[02:40] <coz_> Stargazer,  you might have to hit ctrl+ alt+ F1  twice to get into conosle
[02:41] <maxmahem> I personaly want to like konqueror but it still malforms to many pages, doesn't work well enough with java and flash, for me to use it.
[02:41] <ThePhoenix> Cause arent they making a browser based on the fennece fox?
[02:41] <maxmahem> Its performance is excellent however. But I also miss my extensions.
[02:41] <pvvni> I've actually been a google chrome person for quite some time now
[02:42] <pvvni> the new builds are getting more featured on nix
[02:42] <maxmahem> its kind of sad how the other webkit browsers have left konquorer in the dust IMO.
[02:42] <eseven73> im boycotting Google Chrome because they made it for Windows and Mac before Linux! Opera ftw.
[02:43] <ThePhoenix> is chrome acutally a viable option on linux now?
[02:43] <bullgard4> RHorse: Can you elaborate.
[02:43] <anonusr> maxmahem: when I used iceweasel, all my old firefox extensions ran fine (granted, it was at least 6 months ago)
[02:43] <pvvni> ThePhoenix: not really.
[02:43] <pvvni> ThePhoenix: it's usable, but it's not great
[02:44] <maxmahem> anonusr: I'm sure the would! I was talking about missing my Firefox extenions in konquorer however.
[02:44] <RHorse> bullgard4 if it is  wep then you can *wake up* the card using  just iwconfig with the key argument but for wpa you need wpa_supplicant and wpa_password
[02:44] <ThePhoenix> thats what i thought
[02:44] <RedSocrates> pvvni: Are you building Chromium from source, or what?
[02:44] <ThePhoenix> its why i havent bothered yet
[02:44] <Ciros> RHorse:  wpa is more secure than wep
[02:44] <ThePhoenix> i had it on windows though
[02:45] <Stargazer> Coz_: I guess it worked, thanks.
[02:45] <eseven73> RedSocrates, there's a .deb running around for Chrome
[02:45] <RedSocrates> eseven73: really?
[02:45] <eseven73> yeppers
[02:45] <dea1> is wpa-psk still secure
[02:45] <coz_> Stargazer,  no problem :)
[02:45] <RHorse> bullgard4 using dhcp?
[02:45] <Paddy_EIRE> RedSocrates: its actually"crossover-chromium" he is referring to which is just the windows version with some wine libs
[02:46] <RedSocrates> Paddy_EIRE: Ah, that's what I suspected
[02:46] <Paddy_EIRE> not worth your time
[02:46] <RedSocrates> Initially, anyway
[02:46] <RedSocrates> Paddy_EIRE: Yeah, I've used that, don't like it
[02:46] <eseven73> Paddy_EIRE, ok I wasnt aware of that, good to know
[02:46] <Paddy_EIRE> sure thing
[02:46] <pvvni> RedSocrates: There are prebuilt packages for ubuntu provided by google already
[02:47] <wariskampar> hello, i just installed 9.10 but now i can not see any windows on my active program
[02:47] <RedSocrates> pvvni: And this is not Crossover-Chromium that you're talking about?  Can you link me?
[02:47] <wariskampar> ccsm also disappear
[02:47] <pvvni> RedSocrates: sure sec
[02:48] <hokiiii> anyone know how to stop this:  (from dmesg) [47584.140273] hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 7 (and it is happening constanly)
[02:48] <dea1> wariskampar: report a bug
[02:48] <wariskampar> what bug
[02:48] <ThePhoenix> so is opera really faster than firefox?
[02:48] <pvvni> RedSocrates: https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa
[02:48] <RedSocrates> ThePhoenix: Not in my experience, but I always hear others saying yes.
[02:48] <dea1> wariskampar: about windows disappearing
[02:49] <Hammerjak> RedSocrates, so it's just anecdotal evidence?
[02:49] <Hammerjak> i haven't heard anything definitive either
[02:49] <RedSocrates> pvvni: Ahh, Chromium.  There's some difference between Chromium and Chrome itself, but thanks
[02:49] <dea1> wariskampar: you are running 9.10 "karmic" and not 9.04 "jaunty jackalope", right
[02:49] <dea1> !bug
[02:49] <RedSocrates> Hammerjak: I don't know if it's merely anecdotal; there may be stats somewhere
[02:50] <pvvni> RedSocrates: Almost no difference between the two
[02:50] <wariskampar> ok..ok..typo, i'm using 9.04
[02:50] <RedSocrates> pvvni: Thanks, I'll check it out
[02:51] <dea1> ok, because 9.10 is in beta
[02:52] <chemikalz> isnt 9.04 jaunty too?
[02:52] <chemikalz> there is a newer release when?
[02:52] <RedSocrates> chemikalz: 9.04 = Jaunty
[02:52] <chemikalz> whast 9.10?
[02:52] <RedSocrates> chemikalz: Next release is scheduled for October
[02:52] <Pici> 9.10 is in *alpha*
[02:52] <chemikalz> oh
[02:52] <chemikalz> he said beta
[02:53] <RedSocrates> chemikalz: 9.10 = Karmic Koala
[02:53] <chemikalz> so i was confused
[02:53] <chemikalz> jaunty is beta
[02:53] <FloodBot3> chemikalz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:53] <chemikalz> sweet!
[02:53] <Pici> chemikalz: alpha
[02:53] <LjL> chemikalz: no jaunty is not in beta, it's released.
[02:53] <chemikalz> karmic koala nice
[02:53] <RedSocrates> chemikalz: No, Jaunty is released, it's not beta
[02:53] <chemikalz> its not listed as stable release yet though right
[02:53] <Pici> chemikalz: Er, released, sorry. I misread.
[02:53] <chemikalz> im running 9.04
[02:53] <Pici> !jaunty
[02:53] <ThePhoenix> wait what about Epiphany is that any good?
[02:53] <Pici> !karmic
[02:53] <chemikalz> WILL break
[02:53] <chemikalz> haha
[02:54] <pubuntu> ubuntu portable SUCKS!!!1!!!
[02:54] <chemikalz> ill stick to juanty
[02:54] <pvvni> chemikalz: take note of the version numbers, 9.04 means year 9, month 4. So it was released in april of 2009. The next version, 9.10 is obviously then going to be set for october of 09
[02:54] <VCoolio1> ThePhoenix: it's nice and pretty fast but has it's own add-ons
[02:54] <eseven73> Ill wait until it's beta
[02:54] <chemikalz> thanks pvn
[02:54] <gex> Does anyone know how to configure the gnome panels so that they will start up in the hidden state?
[02:54] <pubuntu> mark shuttleworth can kiss the dirtiest part of my @$$
[02:55] <eseven73> !ot
[02:55] <yagga> !troll
[02:55] <th0r> gex: just turn on autohide
[02:55] <gex> Of course, I know that one can right-click on the panel and choose to autohide; and also that I can ask it to provide the show/hide buttons on its side. But the autohide still leaves an ugly strip on the screen (is it possible to force this strip to be zero pixels high?); and I have to manually click on the show/hide buttons after every boot in order to hide the panel.
[02:55] <sebsebseb> pubuntu: Pici will probably boot you
[02:55] <pubuntu> srry.
[02:56] <unnamedplayer_> OMGoodness do I need some help
[02:56] <th0r> gex: it is possible to reduce that line that remains...google it...it is a config hack
[02:56] <unnamedplayer_> Kinda did something I shouldn't have and don't know how to undo it
[02:57] <pubuntu> sebsebseb,  its me Ben90.
[02:57] <ThePhoenix> so is epiphany worth using?
[02:57] <gex> I can't found a solution in google :(
[02:57] <sebsebseb> unnamedplayer_: which was?
[02:57] <pubuntu> remember me
[02:57] <VCoolio1> ThePhoenix: epiphany is also based on firefox. If you want firefox-like I'd recommend swiftweasel (open-source, firefox-addon-compatible, linux-tweaked so fast enough) or if you need to, opera (but that's closed-source)
[02:57] <Don_Miguel> ThePhoenix, I use it every day
[02:57] <sebsebseb> ThePhoenix: Firefox is usualy good enough, but for some of us, including me,  there are issues with Ubuntu's version
[02:58] <gex> 'd much rather force the panel to start already in the hidden state (with only the tiny show/hide button on the left corner visible), so that I would use the show/hide buttons only to show the panel (in the few cases where alt+f2 is not enough ;).
[02:58] <ThePhoenix> yeah mine hogs resources and frezzes
[02:58] <sebsebseb> ThePhoenix: ,but as an alternative,  Epiphany, Galeon, Seamonkey,  Konqueror, and Opera, are all worth looking in to
[02:58] <wariskampar> perhaps my earlier explanation was misleading...
[02:58] <sebsebseb> pubuntu: whoever that is
[02:58] <wariskampar> actually i can not see window border for every opened program
[02:59] <ThePhoenix> and whats the best rendering engine Gecko or Webkit or something else?
[02:59] <VCoolio1> ThePhoenix: check if they are still being developed though. Galeon and icefox aren't...
[02:59] <Hammerjak> wariskampar, sounds like a problem with compiz
[02:59] <Yankefish> sup guys
[02:59] <meoblast001> uhhh how do i fix white screen of death?
[02:59] <meoblast001> wait nevermind
[02:59] <Don_Miguel> lol
[02:59] <meoblast001> found out.... have to disable compiz
[02:59] <wariskampar> at first i also thought that but after installing compiz, problem persist
[02:59] <sebsebseb> ThePhoenix: which is better Webkit or Gecko or  presto even what Opera uses,  it's one of those things
[03:00] <sebsebseb> ThePhoenix: ,but those three follow the web standards rather nicely, as does KHMTL
[03:00] <sebsebseb> KHTML what Konqueror uses
[03:00] <ThePhoenix> yeah but which of those is the best?
[03:00] <Yankefish> hey anybody know why my ubuntu is slugish, i have a dual core amd x2 x64,4 gigs of ram and 512 mb video
[03:00] <sebsebseb> ThePhoenix: where as I assume you already know,  Trident/MSHTML pretty much does it's own thing still, even though IE8 is an improvement
[03:00] <unnamedplayer_> How do I revert to old video drivers from a livdCD?
[03:00] <sebsebseb> ThePhoenix: and quite a bit of one compared to IE6
[03:01] <ThePhoenix> yeah IE6 sucks
[03:01] <sebsebseb> ThePhoenix: some would say Webkit is better than Gecko these days,  but they are about the same
[03:01] <ThePhoenix> i have to use it at school
[03:01] <Soren_> how do I update Ubuntu 8.10 to 9
[03:01] <ThePhoenix> is webkit open source?
[03:01] <kappaccino> Soren_, very carefully ?
[03:01] <sebsebseb> ThePhoenix: yes, but it has links to Apple humm
[03:01] <Hammerjak> Soren_,  `sudo apt-get dist-upgrade`
[03:02] <ThePhoenix> ok forget it then
[03:02] <Soren_> Hammerjak: ty
[03:02] <sebsebseb> ThePhoenix: since it's the rendering engine Safari uses,  but also  Google Chrome
[03:02] <Yankefish> anybody know how to speed up ubuntu 9 running slow as hell
[03:02] <sebsebseb> ThePhoenix: it is open source though, and a good rendering engine, based on KHTML
[03:02] <ThePhoenix> i might use google Chrome but thats as far as ill go with Webkit
[03:02] <RedSocrates> Hammerjak: That command won't upgrade 8.10 to 9.04
[03:02] <ThePhoenix> Gecko wins
[03:02] <Hammerjak> it won't?
[03:02] <anonusr> Was trackerd removed in Jaunty?
[03:02] <RedSocrates> Hammerjak: Not as far as I'm aware
[03:02] <soulwarp> Yankefish: do you have integrated intel graphics on a laptop?
[03:02] <sebsebseb> ThePhoenix: no  Google Chrome for  Linux or Mac yet, only  Chromeium in early alpha,  which is what Google Chrome usese
[03:02] <sebsebseb> uses
[03:03] <chemikalz> can i switch to 64bit ubuntu, if im already in 32 bit and have everything set up how i want
[03:03] <ThePhoenix> yeah i know
[03:03] <chemikalz> i have 4gb mem
[03:03] <ThePhoenix> im waiting
[03:03] <RedSocrates> Hammerjak, Soren_: The command I've always used is "update-manager -d"
[03:03] <RedSocrates> That's the GUI way
[03:03] <kappaccino> Yankefish, you might want to install on something faster than a PIII
[03:03] <chemikalz> 32bit is only able to use 2.0 something
[03:03] <sebsebseb> chemikalz: you can't convert a 32bit OS into a 64bit one
[03:03] <ThePhoenix> i might grab the alpha and do some debuggin. . .
[03:03] <Hammerjak> yeah, and apt-get is the command line way
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> chemikalz:  not without a reinstall...
[03:03] <Hammerjak> still works though
[03:03] <bullgard4> RHorse: Yes. But this does not matter. The LEDs are not blinking. This is the first problem.
[03:03] <ThePhoenix> or testing rather
[03:03] <chemikalz> is having 4gb of ram worth going to 64bit
[03:03] <sebsebseb> chemikalz: yes
[03:03] <RedSocrates> Hammerjak: I don't think that's the right command...
[03:03] <jester7> is there any way to move the new notification to another corner (other than upper right)?
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> chemikalz: and 32bit can see up to 4gb of ram.. but the hardware will take away some of that.. shouldent be 2 gb worth however.
[03:03] <sebsebseb> chemikalz: they say need at least 4GB  RAM,  or  won't really get any benefits with 64bit
[03:04] <RedSocrates> Someone can correct me if I'm wrong though.  Dist-upgrade is what I use now to keep my system up to date, but it doesn't upgrade it to a different release
[03:04] <kappaccino> benefits will come after 6gb of RAM, that's when all your apps will start caching and not using page file
[03:04] <Hammerjak> RedSocrates, `sudo apt-get upgrade` keeps it up to date, `sudo apt-get dist-upgrade` upgrades the "major" version
[03:04] <jester7> i have 4gb of ram and 64 bit, and it doesn't touch the swap file
[03:04] <Soren_> I do not think it did anything...........does that mean I am already updated?...................greg@greg-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade....[sudo] password for greg: ....Reading package lists... Done....Building dependency tree   .....Reading state information... Done.....Calculating upgrade... Done.....0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded....greg@greg-laptop:~$
[03:04] <chemikalz> my ubuntu only uses like 20 percent of my ram tops at this point pretty good
[03:04] <th0r> Hammerjak: the LTS versions
[03:05] <Runaway1956> sebseb - 64 bit is great with only 1 gb of RAM, I promis
[03:05] <Hammerjak> oh really?
[03:05] <Hammerjak> didn't know that distinction
[03:05] <Runaway1956> i wouldn't use less than 1 GB
[03:05] <chemikalz> should i give a swapfile to system
[03:05] <chemikalz> i havent since my ram has been enough
[03:05] <Yankefish> mine is slow with desktop effects on
[03:05] <jester7> is there any way to move the new notification to another corner (other than upper right)?
[03:05] <plasher2009> hey I have a Question, I am newbie with Xubuntu.. anyone__
[03:05] <Runaway1956> does your video card have it's own RAM?
[03:05] <chemikalz> video ram
[03:05] <th0r> Hammerjak: yeah...the Long Term Support versions. You can do a dist-upgrade from 8.04 to 9.04
[03:05] <RedSocrates> Soren_, Hammerjak: Maybe "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[03:05] <Yankefish> no shared 4 gb
[03:05] <Classic> hello
[03:05] <chemikalz> i have nvidia mobile 512mb
[03:06] <Hammerjak> hm
[03:06] <Yankefish> i have amd 3100
[03:06] <Kalmi> plasher2009, what's your question? :)
[03:06] <Yankefish> ati opps
[03:06] <Runaway1956> in my experience, 1 GB ram and a video card with 256meg of ram was quite good
[03:06] <Soren_> RedSocrates: ty
[03:06] <chemikalz> is there a juanty hardy heron version?
[03:06] <RedSocrates> Soren_: No prob
[03:06] <sebsebseb> chemikalz: no
[03:06] <th0r> Hammerjak: but I would still recommend reinstalling from scratch...gives you a chance to clean up the partitioning and such
[03:06] <chemikalz> they should make a gamer ubuntu flavor
[03:06] <sebsebseb> chemikalz: Hardy Heron is Ubuntu 8.04  and Jaunty Jackalope is  9.04
[03:06] <chemikalz> that works really well with WINE
[03:06] <sebsebseb> !hardy
[03:06] <sebsebseb> !jaunty
[03:07] <Soren_> RedSocrates: "working" :)
[03:07] <RedSocrates> Soren_: Good luck :)
[03:07] <kappaccino> what? [19:06:47] ‹ chemikalz › they should make a gamer ubuntu flavor
[03:07] <kappaccino> I"m not sure I follow
[03:07] <Yankefish> should i use movie player or vlc with ubuntu
[03:07] <plasher2009> I installed Xubuntu yesterday... Everything its going on great except the sound..  how can i makeit to work__
[03:07] <chemikalz> one that is easier to get games running
[03:07] <chemikalz> 3d games
[03:07] <chemikalz> like left 4 dead
[03:07] <sebsebseb> chemikalz: Google the  Linux gaming DVD or whatever
[03:07] <Classic> !lts
[03:07] <sebsebseb> chemikalz: there is at least one  Live distro that is specifically made for games, however you can install those games in Ubuntu anyway
[03:07] <chemikalz> i just boot into vista64 when i play games but vista is slow as hell
[03:08] <Dr_Willis> Yankefish:  i tend to use vlc or gmplayer
[03:08] <Dr_Willis> Yankefish:  i hate the default gnome media player
[03:08] <chemikalz> brb making swapfile
[03:08] <Classic> ubottu, which is lts
[03:08] <Runaway1956> upgrade from Vista to Win7 release candidate is out
[03:08] <Yankefish> Willis my vlc is slow
[03:08] <PacoBuntu> How do i install webkit in Jaunty?
[03:08] <sebsebseb> Runaway1956: that's not the final and  ##windows is for Windows lovers
[03:08] <Dr_Willis> Yankefish:  its fine here..
[03:08] <Yankefish> wierd
[03:09] <Runaway1956> Yeah - I know - the guy wants to play a game, and Vista bites
[03:09] <Dr_Willis> Yankefish:  most of the media players have different kinds of video out 'settings' you can try
[03:09] <Soren_> RedSocrates: "calculaint changes" ...........then "Continue [yN] Details [d]"
[03:09] <Yankefish> ok i'll try
[03:09] <Kalmi> Is there a way to convince Network Manager that the connection is working when one uses the /etc/network/interfaces file?
[03:09] <sebsebseb> PacoBuntu: you can have Webkit instead of Gecko for Epiphany and I think Galeon as well
[03:09] <kappaccino> I thought games played just fined with vista sp1 installed
[03:09] <sebsebseb> PacoBuntu: ,but otherwise you can't really have webkit I think
[03:09] <kappaccino> maybe you need to re-evaluate your hardware
[03:09] <nightdrever> ok...ive messed up my software resources...how do i fix them?....dunno which ones are bad
[03:09] <Kalmi> PacoBuntu, you need to use the webkit ppa
[03:09] <sebsebseb> PacoBuntu: you need a browser that has webkit as an option
[03:10] <Kalmi> sebsebseb, like?
[03:10] <Runaway1956> Midori is a webkit browser, passes all the acid tests
[03:10] <Yankefish> how big should my swap be if i have 4 gb of ram
[03:10] <Runaway1956> about 1 gig, I would say
[03:10] <kappaccino> ^
[03:10] <sebsebseb> Kalmi: well there isn't really one, unless the Chromeium alpha  counts,  and see above for what I said regarding Epiphany and Galeon
[03:10] <Runaway1956> there are different opinions, but with 4 gig RAM, you really won't use swap
[03:10] <Dr_Willis> Yankefish:  i always use 512mb minimam.. you proberly dont need any..  depends on yourneeds and hard drive space.. 1gb tops.. unless you are using a laptop and want to use the hibernate features
[03:10] <PacoBuntu> sudo apt-get install libwebkit-dev <-- what about this then?
[03:10] <sebsebseb> Kalmi: and ppa's are meant to be for more experienced users
[03:11] <Yankefish> 1 more guys 4 some reason my wireless wont auto connect
[03:11] <Runaway1956> the -dev packages are unnecessary unless you plan to work on it, or do your own compiling
[03:11] <PacoBuntu> Kalmi: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/stemp/ubuntu jaunty main' <-- is that the correct webkit ppa for jaunty?
[03:12] <kappaccino> Is it really a myth? the year of linux that is...
[03:12] <Kalmi> sebsebseb, ok :) Than we should just tell him that he should just use fx and go away?
[03:12] <Runaway1956> there won't be a year of the linux desktop
[03:12] <Kalmi> PacoBuntu, https://launchpad.net/~webkit-team/+archive/ppa
[03:12] <sebsebseb> Kalmi: install webkit for epiphany and galeon or something
[03:12] <Runaway1956> people are satisfied with the idiot's operating system
[03:12] <PacoBuntu> Kalmi: thanks ;)
[03:12] <kappaccino> seems like every distro upgrade, something always break and it's always the simplest, taken for granted, of all things
[03:12] <kappaccino> /rant
[03:12] <sebsebseb> !ot |  Runaway1956
[03:12] <Yankefish> anyway to fix wifi errors
[03:13] <Kalmi> Is there a way to convince Network Manager that the connection is working when one uses the /etc/network/interfaces file?
[03:13] <Runaway1956> bite my OT guys - I responded to a question
[03:13] <Yankefish> kalmi i have same prob
[03:14] <sebsebseb> !troll | Runaway1956
[03:14] <eseven73> lol sebsebseb you're always so quick to call someone a troll, stop that :P
[03:14] <sebsebseb> eseven73: well he is being a bit
[03:15] <treal007> could someone help me with my linux ubuntu ps3 question?
[03:15] <kappaccino> treal007, no it won't play crysis nor will it blend...
[03:15] <Zephryos> How much space is needed for Ubuntu 9.04 to run off a USB Flash Drive?
[03:16] <Dr_Willis> treal007:  most likely you will need to find the various PS3 linux forums.. or sites..  unless its a real general linux question
[03:16] <chemikalz> its not letting me resize or touch any partitions
[03:16] <chemikalz> is this because im installing things?
[03:16] <overrider> Hi, what is the best recommended way to create a USB Install of Ubuntu with some Custom Programs i install afterwards, eg. Settings preserved between Reboots? Is there anything wrong with just taking the normal CD, and installing it on the Flash Drive like i would on HD. Thanks
[03:16] <chemikalz> or do i need to log into root first
[03:16] <chemikalz> to touch my ext3
[03:16] <kappaccino> O_o
[03:16] <chemikalz> id rather take from my windows partitions but it is not letting me do anythign to them
[03:16] <treal007> i installed ubuntu on my ps3, and it is stuck on this dos prompt screen, and it won't go back to the ps3 main page
[03:17] <plasher2009> I installed Xubuntu yesterday.. I am new on this..  how can I make my sound work.??
[03:17] <RHorse> plasher2009 can you sing?
[03:17] <eseven73> plasher2009, did you make sure it's not muted?
[03:17] <Zephryos> overrider: I'm trying the same thing, from what someone told me before it can be done but you have to have a nice size USB drive.
[03:17] <she_dyed> treal007, maybe its a login screen for linux?
[03:17] <plasher2009> yeah its not muted
[03:18] <Kalmi> plasher2009, what kind of sound card do you have?
[03:18] <losher> RHorse: ok, that was funny, but not very helpful
[03:18] <she_dyed> treal007, is it asking for username and password
[03:19] <RHorse> :|
[03:19] <plasher2009> its a laptop sound card... dont remember name..  can I see it on Xubuntu__?
[03:19] <treal007> well it does ask me for a login name and password...i put it in, and it stays in the dos page.  I just want to get back to the ps3 main page.  Any suggestions?
[03:19] <she_dyed> treal007, try ctl-alt-f7
[03:20] <Dr_Willis> treal007:  what version of linux did you install exactly?
[03:20] <Kalmi> plasher2009, open a terminal and type: lspci
[03:20] <treal007> the latest one
[03:20] <Kalmi> plasher2009, and look for something that looks like a sound card..
[03:20] <overrider> Zephryos: well i just did it, a normal install on a USB Drive. Works fine, but the method i think is maybe not so suitable for USB Keys. I wished to use the Install Startup Disk Feature, but have persitence problems
[03:20] <Kalmi> treal007, :D
[03:20] <Dr_Willis> treal007:  thats not really an answer.. :) You got the Ubuntu PS3 variant:? or the normal ubuntu 9.04 disk? or what exactly?
[03:20] <plasher2009> ok wait a second
[03:21] <chemikalz> i cant get steam to open through wine even though i installed it through it
[03:21] <treal007> ok, let me figure it out...brb
[03:21] <Dr_Willis> chemikalz:  i got steam working here.. no games working.. jsut steam.
[03:21] <Kalmi> O_o
[03:21] <Kalmi> Is there a way to convince Network Manager that the connection is working when one uses the /etc/network/interfaces file?
[03:21] <Stargazer> Hey guys, i need a way to backup my entire Ubuntu system so i can just double-click and re-install it all. any suggestions ?
[03:21] <chemikalz> hmm, useless if none of your games work
[03:21] <sveakex> the latest is 2.6.29.4
[03:21] <chemikalz> will at least counter strike source work in it?
[03:21] <she_dyed> Dr_Willis, do you plan on getting games for it soon?
[03:21] <sveakex> :p
[03:21] <RHorse> Kalmi be very persuasive
[03:22] <chemikalz> which steam games work?
[03:22] <Kalmi> trying :)
[03:22] <th0r> Stargazer: it won't be exactly that, but check aptoncd
[03:22] <Zephryos> overrider: Your a step ahead of me then, I'm trying to just fit the full thing on my 2GB key..
[03:22] <Ryan52> 8.10 is intrepid, yes?
[03:22] <syntax\> anyone in here using tvu player or sopcast under 9.04?
[03:22] <Dr_Willis> she_dyed:  i got games for it.. but i just use it under linux to chat with my brother. :)  if i want games.. i go to windows
[03:22] <sveakex> chemikalz: http://appdb.winehq.org
[03:22] <syntax\> can't seem to have sopcast working
[03:22] <shiznebit> Dr_Willis: yea
[03:22] <chemikalz> ty
[03:22] <treal007> ubuntu 8.10
[03:22] <sveakex> yw
[03:22] <Dr_Willis> she_dyed:  even just the game browser/.chat stuff.. is a bit flakey in wine
[03:23] <chemikalz> i didnt mean to leave
[03:23] <sveakex> ok
[03:23] <shiznebit> syntax\: yes i got it working
[03:23] <sveakex> yw btw
[03:23] <Ryan52> nobody to answer a stupid question? that's fine, I got it :P
[03:23] <shiznebit> syntax\: what did you do so far ?
[03:23] <syntax\> which one?
[03:23] <syntax\> shiznebit: sopcast or tvu?
[03:23] <Stargazer> Th0r, i kinda like that idea... but instead of just packages how about my entire system onto DVDs or something ?
[03:23] <shiznebit> syntax\: sopcast
[03:23] <syntax\> shiznebit: could you teach me how? xD
[03:23] <treal007> dr. willis
[03:24] <Dr_Willis> !tab | treal007
[03:24] <Kalmi> Ryan52, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Ubuntu
[03:24] <shiznebit> syntax\: may I pm you ?
[03:24] <sveakex> Kalmi: he left
[03:24] <Kalmi> oh...
[03:24] <sveakex> :(
[03:25] <treal007> how do i get back to the ps3 main page?
[03:25] <she_dyed> Kalmi, tho I think he said he figured it out
[03:25] <Stargazer> Has anyone successfully used 'backuppc' ?
[03:25] <she_dyed> treal007, did you try ctl-alt-f7
[03:25] <treal007> no, what will that do?
[03:26] <she_dyed> treal007, if you're lucky it will take you back
[03:26] <treal007> and if it doesn't?
[03:26] <syntax\> followed a couple of guides, but ff won't let me open sop files..
[03:26] <syntax\> sure go ahead sir
[03:26] <she_dyed> treal007, ctl-alt-f1 back
[03:26] <Hammerjak> if it doesn't it'll just take you to another dos prompt as you called it
[03:26] <she_dyed> treal007, do you feel lucky?
[03:26] <Kalmi> ps3 different operating system swicth back
[03:26] <treal007> i'll try it
[03:26] <treal007> brb
[03:27] <Dr_Willis> treal007:  you did install the 'powerpc+ps3' version of ubuntu?  http://psubuntu.com/wiki/UbuntuVersions
[03:27] <losher> Stargazer: it's old, but you can look at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Linux-Complete-Backup-and-Recovery-HOWTO/
[03:27] <sveakex> why would one want to run linux on the ps3?
[03:27] <Dr_Willis> sveakex:  ive never figured that out either...
[03:27] <sveakex> it has only 256mb ram afaik
[03:27] <Kalmi> treal007, google: ps3 different operating system switch back
[03:27] <Dr_Willis> sveakex:  and people assume it also uses the normal intel release also.. whioch is not corect. :)
[03:28] <sveakex> Dr_Willis: i know, good bye gaming emulation! :/
[03:28] <Dr_Willis> treal007:  http://psubuntu.com/
[03:28] <Dr_Willis> sveakex: idont even own one. :)
[03:28] <she_dyed> maybe its hooked up to the big screen
[03:28] <sveakex> Dr_Willis: mine broke
[03:28] <grendal_prime> I need some fonts..
[03:28] <sveakex> Dr_Willis: got my money back and bought a wii
[03:29] <grendal_prime> for ...openoffice..but in general
[03:30] <she_dyed> maybe its the only thing in the house with decent graphics card Dr_Willis
[03:30] <RHorse> grendal_prime have you the true type fonts yet? If not, get them.
[03:30] <ryan__> i just upgraded to 2 GB RAM, should I resize my swap partition (currently 2GB)?
[03:31] <fulld> hello. I want to use apt but it tells me I need to run dpkg --configure -a. however, when I do that it crashes when it tries to "update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.27-14-generic"
[03:31] <sveakex> Dr_Willis: or atleast wine, would have been awesome to run WoW or some other game on 47''
[03:31] <th0r> ryan__: I wouldn't...I had 2G from the start and only made the swap 2G
[03:31] <Dr_Willis> ryan__:  i wouldent bother.. you wont gain much for the effort
[03:31] <th0r> ryan__: there is some debate if you even need swap with that much ram
[03:31] <Dr_Willis> ryan__:  unless you are really really low oh hd space
[03:32] <ryan__> ok thanks guys
[03:32] <distatica> If I install ubuntu 8.10 desktop, and then update, that's not going to update to 9.04 is it?
[03:32] <th0r> distatica: no
[03:32] <Tully04> no
[03:32] <distatica> Thank goodness. Thank you.
[03:32] <plasher2009> my soundcard is Ali Corporation PCI AC Link
[03:33] <plasher2009> but doesnt work
[03:33] <sveakex> ryan__: don't upgrade your swap, i never even notice my swap go full
[03:33] <grendal_prime> RHorse: is there a package name in particular i should be looking for?
[03:34] <ryan__> i was concerned there would be issues with going into suspend mode
[03:34] <Tully04> Anyone here had to install Citrix ICA client on ubuntu 9.4 ?
[03:34] <chemikalz> yo wine only see my C drive, is this where u install programs and access them trhough wine, cant install on linux partition?
[03:34] <chemikalz> sorry wrong chan
[03:34] <Demonicdata> uh in network manager applet when setting up a static ip i seperate the dns by a , right?
[03:34] <sveakex> chemikalz: can you rephrase that?
[03:34] <sveakex> chemikalz: ok
[03:35] <chemikalz> when i choose the directory for steam to install, it only shows C drive, my windows partition
[03:35] <ryan__> i cant access my windows machines over the network.
[03:35] <Demonicdata> whats the linux equivolent of ipconfig?
[03:35] <barbarian_sargon> hello people
[03:35] <Hammerjak> Demonicdata, ifconfig
[03:35] <sveakex> chemikalz: it is a fake c drive, the location really is /home/$HOME/.wine/drive_c
[03:35] <plasher2009> anybody can help me?  I installed Xubuntu yesterday everything is working fine till now except the sound..
[03:36] <Demonicdata> serious?
[03:36] <chemikalz> ohhh thank you!
[03:36] <sveakex> :)
[03:36] <Hammerjak> Demonicdata, `sudo ifconfig -a`
[03:36] <Hammerjak> serious
[03:36] <barbarian_sargon> anyone have any advice on pcsx for 9.04?
[03:36] <RHorse> grendal_prime type apt-cache search true type font in a terminal there's lots of packages aavail
[03:36] <sveakex> chemikalz: do winecfg in the terminal and you can make other fake drives and such
[03:36] <chemikalz> thanks
[03:36] <sveakex> you're welcome
[03:37] <barbarian_sargon> everytime I load soul reaver, it loads up, and when I hit start game, it always freezes while "checking memory card in memory card slot 1"
[03:37] <TroN-0074> can please anyone tell me how to enable compositing ?
[03:37] <DarkTranquility> anyone been having issues getting the compiz cube to work on ubuntu 9.04?
[03:37] <TroN-0074> I am in ubuntu
[03:37] <Tully04> Dark : no working fine for me
[03:38] <barbarian_sargon> what are the benefits of the compiz cube? my friend has it, but is it beneficial in any way?
[03:38] <TroN-0074>  can please anyone tell me how to enable compositing ?
[03:38] <Hammerjak> TroN-0074, you mean compiz?
[03:39] <plasher2009> I installed Xubuntu yesterdayI am new on this OS ..  my sound card isnt working and it was working with windows.. anyone can help?
[03:39] <RHorse>  please anyone tell me how to enable compost?
[03:39] <TroN-0074> the gnome do says I dont have the right set up for proper display
[03:39] <DarkTranquility> Tully: mine wont work at all for some reason, everything else on compiz is working just fine
[03:39] <barbarian_sargon> plasher, have you tried looking in hardware driver?
[03:40] <TroN-0074> and it says to enable compositing
[03:40] <barbarian_sargon> drivers*
[03:40] <she_dyed> barbarian_sargon, are you used to working with multiple workspaces?
[03:40] <lyrae> Hi. Is there a program to flip my screen? I can pivot it, and id like to rotate the resolution
[03:40] <TroN-0074> so I went to compiz but i didnt find anything that says compositing
[03:40] <barbarian_sargon> she_dyed: not really
[03:40] <plasher2009> barbarian  how can I check hardware driver on xubuntu?
[03:41] <she_dyed> barbarian_sargon, long time linux user are you?
[03:41] <Tully04> Dark : Does it give a error ?
[03:41] <TroN-0074> so any help on that matter?
[03:41] <TroN-0074> It will be highly appreciate it
[03:41] <Hammerjak> TroN-0074, what exactly are you trying to do?
[03:42] <TroN-0074> make gnome do to work
[03:42] <barbarian_sargon> sorry, was looking at something
[03:42] <Hammerjak> to enable compiz?
[03:42] <TroN-0074> yes
[03:42] <barbarian_sargon> well, I have been using for a while now, maybe 6 months or more
[03:42] <TroN-0074> how do I do that?
[03:42] <parulian> hi there
[03:42] <Hammerjak> TroN-0074, System-> Preferences -> Appearance
[03:42] <she_dyed> barbarian_sargon, maybe you've used multiple desktops
[03:42] <parulian> i have problem with my ubuntu hardy
[03:42] <Hammerjak> "Visual Effects" tab, "Extra"
[03:42] <nathan406> hello! where can i get help to fix my pc?
[03:43] <parulian> it can open nautilus with gksudo
[03:43] <sveakex> nathan406: what's wrong?
[03:43] <barbarian_sargon> well, I know it has two
[03:43] <parulian> can someone help me ?
[03:43] <barbarian_sargon> I might have accidently used both of them a few times
[03:43] <ubuntu_> sup guys
[03:43] <sebsebseb> parulian: with?
[03:43] <sveakex> i am using 6 workspaces atm
[03:43] <barbarian_sargon> but for what I use my computer for, I don't really need it
[03:43] <she_dyed> you can do more barbarian_sargon and the cube gives about 4 workspaces
[03:43] <nathan406> sveakex: my computer cant trun on
[03:43] <TroN-0074> I have a dialog box saying that effect couldnt be enable
[03:43] <TroN-0074> how can I fix that?
[03:43] <sebsebseb> nathan406: ##hardware
[03:43] <sveakex> nathan406: is it plugged in?
[03:44] <Hammerjak> TroN-0074, does your video card support 3d rendering?
[03:44] <nathan406> sveakex: yes
[03:44] <she_dyed> barbarian_sargon, like email on one chat on another web on a third so it depends on how much you switch workspaces
[03:44] <Hammerjak> go to a terminal and type `glxinfo | grep -i direct`
[03:44] <RHorse> nathan406 that's normal behaviorr
[03:44] <sveakex> nathan406: what happens when you press the button, nothing?
[03:44] <treal007> got it thanks...i had to type in something like ps3-game-os
[03:44] <TroN-0074> I have a intel video card how can I find out if it supports 3d rendering?
[03:44] <nathan406> sveakex: and my power supply is working
[03:44] <parulian> problem with nautilus when i open it with gksudo
[03:44] <Hammerjak> TroN-0074, that command i typed
[03:44] <nathan406> sveakex: nothing
[03:44] <she_dyed> barbarian_sargon, less clutter of windows on each one. Doesn't have to be compiz but it is a nifty way of spreading out your windows if your CPU and GPU has the muscle
[03:45] <parulian> and the nautilus cannot open
[03:45] <sebsebseb> nathan406  and sveakex    hardware issues aren't really  Ubuntu issues, but whatever
[03:45] <ubuntu_> anybody know how to fix wifi with ubuntu
[03:45] <TroN-0074> one sec
[03:45] <sveakex> nathan406: go to ##hardware
[03:45] <sveakex> nathan406: /j ##hardware
[03:45] <sebsebseb> ubuntu_: no ,but the bot  might give a useful page
[03:45] <sebsebseb> !wireless
[03:45] <nathan406> sveakex: thanks
[03:45] <ps3installfailur> hey im kinda new to this, trying to install 9.04 on ps3 and i keep getting a black screen after a try to put in vide settings ....any suggestions ?
[03:45] <sveakex> nathan406: you're welcome
[03:45] <TroN-0074> this is what I got direct rendering: Yes
[03:45] <sebsebseb> nathan406: I said to go to that channel first
[03:46] <Hammerjak> TroN-0074, then yes you have 3d rendering
[03:46] <ubuntu_> is see's my connectio but when i out in pass wont connect
[03:46] <byerley> Hi, I'm trying to install a bind resolver on 8.04(hardy) using this tutorial: http://www.linode.com/wiki/index.php/Install_BIND9_in_Ubuntu_(Breezy) , but as far as I can tell it's crashing, and I'm not entirely sure what's being done with the log, but I can't find any relevant information as to why it's crashing
[03:46] <TroN-0074> how can I fix the problem
[03:46] <Hammerjak> TroN-0074, do you know what exact error you got when you tried enabling it?
[03:46] <Hammerjak> well, you have 3d rendering so you SHOULD be able to do it somehow
[03:47] <parulian> there is no error when i open the nautilus with the gksudo
[03:47] <gymophett> Is KDE 4.2 buggy?
[03:47] <wims> i wanna move an ntfs partition off a disk and put a linux partition on it instead, do linux have any tools similar to symantec deploycenter that lets me make an image of the partition and restore it to any disk later?
[03:47] <TroN-0074> yes it says that the desktop effect couldnt be enable
[03:47] <Markov> hey. how do i determine what my samba shares' names will be eg: sambamount //???/Something/ ?
[03:47] <sebsebseb> gymophett: all big software is buggy in some way or the other
[03:47] <Markov> s/sambamount/smbmount/
[03:47] <ubuntu_> anybody i can see my wireless connection, but i cant connect
[03:48] <ps3installfailur> anyone installed 9.04 on ps3 ?
[03:48] <gymophett> sebsebseb: but like, how buggy, i understand all software has bugs, but is KDE so buggy it is not usable?
[03:48] <Hammerjak> TroN-0074, if you go to System -> Preferences do you have "CompizConfig Settings Manager"?
[03:48] <barbarian_sargon> I wish I could go back to 8.04, but since my disc drive won't read CD-Rs for some reason, I can't install it
[03:48] <TroN-0074> yes
[03:48] <distatica> Markov: if you put a specification in your smb.conf and put for instance [office] then the name of your share will be //host/office
[03:48] <RHorse> ubuntu_ wpa or wep?
[03:48] <Hammerjak> try launching that
[03:48] <TroN-0074> o.k I have it on
[03:48] <sebsebseb> gymophett: no, but  KDE3 is more mature and stable :)
[03:48] <Hammerjak> hmm
[03:49] <she_dyed> barbarian_sargon, do you still have the ISO somewhere?
[03:49] <sebsebseb> !kde4 |  gymophett
[03:49] <Markov> distatica, thanks! is there anyway to change my hostname w/o reinstalling. i think it might be causing problems w/my mac.. :(
[03:49] <needhelp1> sebsebseb: hey how are ya
[03:49] <barbarian_sargon> well, no, but I could get it
[03:49] <sebsebseb> gymophett: yeah and there's even a KDE3 ppa
[03:49] <barbarian_sargon> from ubuntu.com
[03:49] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: ok, but bored
[03:49] <needhelp1> lol well i need help
[03:49] <RHorse> Markov /etc/hostame works sometimes for less picky apps
[03:49] <ps3installfailur> sorry to bother i know this is kinda lame but how do i get past a black screen installing 9.04 on ps3
[03:50] <she_dyed> barbarian_sargon, check out unetbootin.sf.net
[03:50] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: with?
[03:50] <gymophett> sebsebseb: KDE 3 is ugly. :/
[03:50] <barbarian_sargon> is there a way I could maybe make an install disc on my flash drive?
[03:50] <parulian> need help with nautilus
[03:50] <sveakex> ps3installfailur: give me more information
[03:50] <sebsebseb> !kde3
[03:50] <IndyGunFreak> barbarian_sargon: yes.. google unetbootin
[03:50] <yankefish> ok guys my wifi card is working properly i guess i can see my network ssid but i cant connect what can i do
[03:50] <Markov> RHorse, yeah. just found that. apparently i can do i through the gui as well..
[03:50] <sebsebseb> gymophett: you can theme  stuff :d
[03:50] <amigamia> test
[03:50] <amigamia> anyone here?
[03:50] <Decepticon> test failed!
[03:50] <distatica> Markov: please see http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-newbie/51849-how-change-hostname.html
[03:50] <IndyGunFreak> yankefish: well,are you sure you're entering your password correctly?
[03:51] <needhelp1> sebsebseb: i need to edit my grub menu i guess to make it auto boot windows
[03:51] <needhelp1> when i installed ubuntu it set ubuntu to auto boot first
[03:51] <ps3installfailur> sveakex...thank you.....i get to the screen that says to press enter if im not sure and ive pressed enter and tried different video settings, but after each try i just get a black screen
[03:51] <gymophett> sebsebseb: not as well though. :/ I'm into high tech, transparent, cool looking things. :P
[03:51] <distatica> Markov: I think that should solve your problem, just make sure you set it up permanently if that's what you're after/
[03:51] <she_dyed> barbarian_sargon, check out that page, you can choose to use the flash drive or just drive everything off the ISO
[03:51] <yankefish> yeah i sure i have right pass
[03:51] <sveakex> ps3installfailur: did you try vesa?
[03:51] <sebsebseb> gymophett: yeah Gnome panels can go transparant :)
[03:51] <sveakex> ps3installfailur: if it is an option
[03:51] <she_dyed> barbarian_sargon, no burning involved
[03:51] <Bu3nK> join#aceh
[03:51] <ps3installfailur> sveakex....im sorry i dont know what that is
[03:51] <parulian> nautilus can't open with gksudo, i've entered the right password
[03:52] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: that's easy
[03:52] <parulian> it not open
[03:52] <gymophett> sebsebseb: I effed up GNOME.
[03:52] <sveakex> ps3installfailur: vesa should be a video option
[03:52] <Bu3nK> peuhaba genk
[03:52] <sebsebseb> gymophett: how so?
[03:52] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.list
[03:52] <sakuramboo> i posted two weeks ago on the forum about my clock skipping a second about every 15 or so seconds, it seems that its not just the clock, but the entire system seems to "skip" for about a half a second, this has been going on since i upgraded to 8.10 and now in 9.04, but htop doesnt tell of any rouge app causing spikes in the cpu usage
[03:52] <gymophett> sebsebseb: i screwed with all of the files in synaptic and tried to update 2.22 to 2.26
[03:52] <she_dyed> barbarian_sargon, it would apply if you can get to X on your current install or if you also have windows there
[03:52] <Bu3nK> fuck youuuuuuuuu!!!!!!!!??????????
[03:52] <Markov> distatica, thanks. let's see where it appears in etc
[03:52] <sebsebseb> !language |  Bu3nK
[03:52] <ps3installfailur> sveakex....if you throw a forum post my way ill be glad to read it and try and figure it out
[03:53] <sveakex> ps3installfailur: i will google
[03:53] <ps3installfailur> sveakex....i was just wondering if there was a quick fix with there being quite a few people putting it on ps3
[03:54] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: still here?
[03:54] <needhelp1> sebsebseb: yep
[03:54] <sveakex> ps3installfailur: i don't own a ps3, hold on
[03:54] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: so open the file like I just said
[03:54] <Dr_Willis>  http://psubuntu.com/      all sorts of info ps3installfailur
[03:54] <barbarian_sargon> she_dyed: I have been looking into trying to just downgrade my current install, as my hard drive is old and could die from re-installing something
[03:54] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: then where the OS enteries are put,   Windows at the top,  that should do it
[03:54] <Dr_Willis> ps3installfailur:  you did download and are using the ubuntu-ppc-ps3.iso ?
[03:54] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: ,but why Windows default boot??
[03:54] <sebsebseb> ?
[03:54] <needhelp1> i opened that file but its empty
[03:54] <Tully04> Hey whats the best way to emulate a windows desktop
[03:54] <Tully04> vmware?
[03:55] <barbarian_sargon> I need a new one
[03:55] <sebsebseb> Virtualbox :)
[03:55] <Tully04> Easy to install or?
[03:55] <needhelp1> sebsebseb: i opened that file but its empty... and windows default because its not just my pc..
[03:55] <ps3installfailur> sveakex.....i downloaded and burned an iso of this file...ubuntu-9.04-desktop-powerpc+ps3
[03:55] <sebsebseb> Tully04: and if you want  USB support get the one for Linux hosts   http://www.virtualbox.org
[03:55] <she_dyed> barbarian_sargon, try the pendrive linuxes like feather or puppylinux or dsl
[03:55] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: humm try this then  gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:56] <distatica> Tully04: VirtualBox is a breeze to install, just get the deb package for whatever version of ubuntu you're running and install as root
[03:56] <sveakex> ps3installfailur: http://psubuntu.com/wiki/InstallationInstructions/
[03:56] <Tully04> Cheers distatica
[03:56] <distatica> ( dpkg -i package.deb as root )
[03:56] <Tully04> and sebsebseb :D
[03:56] <sambagirl> what is an editor for linux i forget right now
[03:57] <needhelp1> sebsebseb: that brought something up
[03:57] <sambagirl> not vi but another one
[03:57] <sebsebseb> Tully04: and when it comes to setting up a virtual hard disk,  put dynamically expanding,  and  the  size is  just the size the vm has. so coul even be like 2TB even though your hard disk isn't I assume
[03:57] <she_dyed> gedit or kate sambagirl
[03:57] <Flannel> sambagirl: gedit for Ubuntu, kate for Kubuntu, mousepad for Xubuntu
[03:57] <distatica> sambagirl: nano ?
[03:57] <sambagirl> thanks she_dyed
[03:57] <sambagirl> thanks
[03:57] <sveakex> sambagirl: leafpad, nano
[03:58] <she_dyed> good, nobody suggested emacs lol
[03:58] <Hammerjak> lol
[03:58] <sebsebseb> !text
[03:58] <needhelp1> sebsebseb: what should i do know
[03:58] <sebsebseb> !edit
[03:58] <Flannel> !editor
[03:58] <needhelp1> looks complex
[03:58] <distatica> sebsebseb: I'm not positive, but I think if you set a disk bigger than what you have available you might run into some real issues if it runs out of space.
[03:58] <sebsebseb> Flannel: yep that's the one I wanted :)
[03:58] <distatica> since VBox would puke, not the guest OS.
[03:58] <distatica> just guessing
[03:58] <sebsebseb> distatica: not when using dynamically expanding
[03:59] <sebsebseb> distatica: can make it massive, and it won't matter
[03:59] <distatica> not even when vbox attempts to expand the drive past the physical limitation of the host machine?
[03:59] <sambagirl> has anyone installed rivendell successfully in ubuntu?
[03:59] <distatica> that will get passed to the guest and become the guest os' problem?
[03:59] <sebsebseb> distatica: it would only try and do that if you cluttered it up with loads of big files or something
[04:00] <Twiglet_> !code
[04:00] <sebsebseb> distatica: let's say for example XP SP3 was put in a virtual box vm,  that would take up about 6GB on the psyical hard disk
[04:00] <sambagirl> i got this error
[04:00] <sambagirl>  GPG error: http://debian.tryphon.org intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY D080CEF3C6ADBBD5
[04:00] <needhelp1> sebsebseb: any idea what i should do know ?
[04:00] <needhelp1> *now
[04:00] <sambagirl> is it necessisary to rerun it?
[04:00] <distatica> But if you had 5GB remaining on the host, and 10GB dynamic for the guest, then I assume when vbox attempted ot make the guest go past 5 it would have issues.
[04:00] <sebsebseb> distatica: even if the virtual hard disk was  2TB for that VM.  I think even though the size of a vm dosan't really matter when expanding, a sensible size would still be like 60GB for Windows
[04:00] <seniorake> i want to install 9.04 for the first time. but i want to use kde instead of gnome. is that easily possible?
[04:01] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: already told you,  where the OS's are mentioned, but Windows at the top
[04:01] <lstarnes> seniorake: I think there is kubuntu 9.04
[04:01] <Vallim_Ubuntu> Is there anybody that use MyEclipse?
[04:01] <seniorake> and how should i proceed? install ubuntu as usual and then later kde, when the setup is done?
[04:01] <Hammerjak> seniorake, get kubuntu rather than ubuntu
[04:01] <parulian> need help ..please....
[04:01] <sebsebseb> seniorake: or install Ubuntu, and then install Kubuntu
[04:01] <needhelp1> sebsebseb: so just copy and move the windows option to the top of the list?
[04:01] <th0r> sambagirl: no, it isn't. That just means the system could not verify the authenticity of the source you downloaded from
[04:01] <lstarnes> seniorake: you could also insall kde on regular ubuntu
[04:01] <genii> seniorake: If you currently have a regular ubuntu cd, that is the prudent option.
[04:01] <Dr_Willis> seniorake:  you can easially install 'kubuntu-desktop' afterwards..
[04:01] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: yes where the OS's are mentioned
[04:01] <seniorake> yes, but i would like to use ubuntu, since kubuntu lacks lots of technique, i had pretty bad experience with kubuntu
[04:01] <sebsebseb> !details |  parulian
[04:02] <distatica> sebsebseb: I see what you're saying about it not mattering, but I think that's just in the case where the guest does NOT overrun the available disk space on the host. So you can set 2TB and use 6GB assuming you have > 6GB left on host.
[04:02] <parulian> okay
[04:02] <Flannel> seniorake: "Ubuntu with KDE" is Kubuntu.
[04:02] <parulian> i have problem with nautilus
[04:02] <parulian> it can't open when i use gksudo
[04:02] <seniorake> is it entirely the same as if i'd use ubuntu and install kde afterwards...?
[04:02] <parulian> there is nothing happen
[04:02] <lstarnes> seniorake: almost
[04:02] <Flannel> seniorake: Yeah (except you'll also have Ubuntu installed--which you can always remove as well)
[04:02] <seniorake> hm, so 9.04 would install kde 4.2, true?
[04:02] <sebsebseb> distatica: dynamically expanding virtual hard disks, will usaully not take up much psyical  space by default, once an OS has been just installed onto it
[04:03] <distatica> Anyways, you said it, use a sensible value anyways. I was just warning in case they did set somethign like that up and ran out of host space and couldn't figure out the issue.
[04:03] <seniorake> i mean kubuntu 9.04
[04:03] <parulian> i use ubuntu hardy
[04:03] <seniorake> because i would also like to use the compiz technique instead of installing compiz seperately
[04:03] <sebsebseb> parulian: what are you trying to do with nautilus?
[04:03] <seniorake> i mean the built in composite effects from kde 4.2
[04:03] <sambagirl> anyone know of any tv broadcasting open source suite?
[04:04] <parulian> i need edit the lstp conf
[04:04] <needhelp1> sebsebseb: im confused... i have four entrys and they are seperated by dividers
[04:04] <needhelp1> it says
[04:04] <Hammerjak> sambagirl, tunapie?
[04:04] <sambagirl> thanks hammerjak
[04:04] <needhelp1> these entrys are automaticatlly added by the debian grub ...
[04:04] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: if your seeing  ##  that's commented just leave that as is
[04:04] <Hammerjak> np, i've never used it personally though
[04:04] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: look at the stuff that isn't commented, for example the Linux kernels
[04:04] <needhelp1> i see that
[04:05] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: and it says about  XP there to
[04:05] <fornix> seniorake: the default window manager of kde "Kwin" is capable of compositing. so it is not necessary to install compiz separately
[04:05] <needhelp1> down some it has the windows
[04:05] <needhelp1> its seperated by comments
[04:05] <vertagano> designer-qt4 crashes with a seg fault. I find others with the same error on the forums, but none of their solutions seem to fix my problem.
[04:05] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: put  the XP stuff  just before the Linux kernel stuff
[04:05] <needhelp1> end of debian atumatgic
[04:05] <needhelp1> do i need to change any settings?
[04:05] <needhelp1> hd0,0?
[04:05] <bc> Flash in Firefox on linux just might be a conspiracy to melt CPUs
[04:05] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: no assuming Windows boots
[04:05] <TroN-0074> yo why couldnt I enable the extras on the descktop visual effects?
[04:05] <darthanubis> bc, just yours
[04:05] <TroN-0074> any clues?
[04:05] <bc> When I play any Flash video in Firefox, my CPU jumps to 60C
[04:06] <sebsebseb> bc: yes I have had issues like that
[04:06] <TroN-0074> what am I doing wrong?
[04:06] <sebsebseb> bc: it happens to some of us,  Ubuntu's Firefox,  really  messes up on us and  makes our computers go bad
[04:06] <bc> Flash video plays fine otherwise
[04:06] <sebsebseb> bc: sometimes
[04:06] <darthanubis> never
[04:06] <lakotajames> when I plug in my sd card, it is "read only", but the switch is in the right position.  Any ideas how to let me write to it?
[04:06] <bc> sebsebseb: No, I meant other than the absurd heat, flash plays just fine.
[04:06] <sebsebseb> bc: if you got a lot of tabs open as well,  that can be a reason
[04:06] <darthanubis> superior design
[04:07] <TroN-0074> why couldnt I enable the extras on the descktop visual effects?
[04:07] <sebsebseb> bc: Firefox can use a lot of CPU yeah
[04:07] <Dr_Willis> lakotajames:  if its not mounted proplery then the users cant write to it..  thats not related to the 'switch' position.
[04:07] <TroN-0074> any clues?
[04:07] <Dragon64> lakota, what filesystem do you have on that flash?
[04:07] <she_dyed> TroN-0074, not using an ATi are you?
[04:07] <bc> sebsebseb: 9 tabs. I'm thinking 5 more might combust
[04:07] <TroN-0074> I dont think so
[04:07] <sebsebseb> bc: is it just Flash doing high CPU?
[04:07] <aliciapg> is anyone running zoneminder?
[04:07] <lakotajames> Dragon64:fat32
[04:07] <lakotajames> Dr_Willis:how do I mount it properly?  It used to work fine.
[04:08] <bc> sebsebseb: yes
[04:08] <vertagano> Anyone know how I can fix my qt4 designer? I can use QT4 apps, but the designer seg faults before displaying anything.
[04:08] <TroN-0074> I am in a Dell
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> lakotajames:  try mounting it by hand,  could be theres some other issue going on.
[04:08] <sebsebseb> bc: have you tried it in other browsers, with high CPU usage?
[04:08] <vbabiy> Does any one have the issue when you click shutdown or restart it brings you to the login screen?
[04:08] <she_dyed> TroN-0074, lspci or lshw might list your video card then we can proceed from there
[04:08] <dsdeiz> better use "mount" hehe
[04:08] <bc> sebsebseb: just closed the tab with the flash video and cpu returned to ~45C
[04:08] <fornix> TroN-0074: can you pastebin the output of $ lspci | grep -i vga
[04:08] <lakotajames> Dr_Willis:  Like, "pmount sdc1"?
[04:09] <sebsebseb> bc: Flash and Ubuntu's Firefox can cause high CPU yeah
[04:09] <sebsebseb> bc: and compuer slowness and such for some of us
[04:09] <distatica> sebsebseb: I just checked with someone in #vbox on this, apparently the guest will pause and alert the user that the host disk is full. I just wanted to make sure it wouldn't cause vbox crashes and confuse the user trying to run windows (since you can easily use up a lot of space on a windows machine)
[04:09] <dsdeiz> couldn't "mount -a" work? :-?
[04:09] <sebsebseb> bc: other browsers such as  Epiphany, Galeon, and Seamonkey which also use Mozilla's Flash plugin, should be fine
[04:09] <lakotajames> dsdeiz: is that intended for me?
[04:10] <sebsebseb> distatica: oh right didn't know that
[04:10] <lyrae> how can i 'rotate' my resolution? my monitor pivots and i'd like to flip the resolution as well
[04:10] <aliciapg> does anyone know anything about zoneminder?
[04:10] <distatica> sebsebseb: me neither, good to know though.
[04:10] <sebsebseb> distatica: yeah I was in there to, so can see what was said :)
[04:10] <distatica> :)
[04:10] <dsdeiz> lakotajames: i was asking the same question as you.. hehe
[04:10] <dsdeiz> i.e. manually mounting
[04:10] <bc> sebsebseb: no memory issues here, but I guess flash 10 must have some gremlins in teh codez
[04:11] <lakotajames> dsdeiz:Oh.  So how do you manually mount?  "mount -a"?
[04:11] <sebsebseb> dsdeiz: maybe I refered someone to that channel ealrier or whatever, but I like to join the channel I refer someone to,  to  see what happens with the issue
[04:11] <sebsebseb> dsdeiz: for the solution yeah
[04:12] <sebsebseb> dsdeiz: join if not already in yeah
[04:12] <she_dyed> lyrae are you using nvidia card?
[04:12] <TroN-0074> fornix and she_dyed here is the link to the pastebin http://pastebin.com/m7462fdf8
[04:12] <lyrae> she_dyed: yes
[04:12] <sebsebseb> dsdeiz: messaged wrong person :(
[04:12] <dsdeiz> sebsebseb: hmm, i'm not sure what you mean
[04:12] <TroN-0074> I'll appreciate your advices
[04:13] <dsdeiz> lolz
[04:13] <sebsebseb> distatica: see above three messages sent to someone else by mistake, that were meant to go to you
[04:13] <she_dyed> lyrae, do you see an nvidia icon on the system tray
[04:13] <LordXavier> hello
[04:13] <lyrae> Not in system tray, but i do have nvidia X server settings manager
[04:13] <lakotajames> "pmount sdc1" gives me "Error: device /dev/sdc1 is not removable"
[04:13] <fornix> TroN-0074: maybe you are affected by the intel driver bug. installing a prev version of intel driver may work. wait. searching for a link which explains
[04:13] <lyrae> under administrator menu
[04:13] <distatica> sebsebseb: where do you want me to join?
[04:14] <LordXavier> is there any one here can help me with ubuntu packaging?
[04:14] <she_dyed> lyrae, yes run it, might give you the orientation you're looking for
[04:14] <sebsebseb> distatica: I don't want you to join some channel,  I was just saying something
[04:14] <she_dyed> lyrae, are there any other entrues besides that
[04:14] <she_dyed> entries*
[04:14] <sebsebseb> distatica: I guess I didn't make enough sense maybe oh well heh
[04:14] <Vallim_Ubuntu> How I do delete program entirely?
[04:15] <Vallim_Ubuntu> what is the command?
[04:15] <fornix> TroN-0074: are you able to play video files properly? using mplayer or totem
[04:15] <lyrae> she_dyed: regarding nvidia? no, just this one
[04:15] <sebsebseb> Vallim_Ubuntu: sudo apt-get purge programname
[04:15] <distatica> sebsebseb: oh I see, it's a good practice to have
[04:15] <lstarnes> Vallim_Ubuntu: sudo aptitude purge packagename
[04:15] <TroN-0074> yes
[04:15] <TroN-0074> I used VLC though
[04:15] <Kalmi> yankefish, "sudo apt-get remove network-manager*" did the trick and everything is working fine so far...
[04:15] <distatica> sometimes if they can't relay what they're saying (or have already typed a crapload) you can help along with some technical information
[04:15] <sebsebseb> Vallim_Ubuntu: and make sure no .folder in home
[04:15] <LordXavier> i have a perl file that need to be install, so i already run dh_make to get the package structure.
[04:15] <distatica> a "soft" transfer if you will :)
[04:15] <sebsebseb> distatica: the channel thing I mentioned you mean?
[04:15] <distatica> yeah
[04:16] <lakotajames> mount -a /dev/sdc1 /media/disk mounts it, but it's still a read-only filesystem
[04:16] <sebsebseb> distatica: yeah I guess it is good practice
[04:16] <Vallim_Ubuntu> ls0775,  aptitude ou apt-get remove?
[04:16] <byerley> I'm having a permissions issue if anyone is willing to take a look. The first bit is syslog data: http://pastebin.com/d15a1e460
[04:16] <she_dyed> lyrae, try it anyway, but it should be one that's obvious
[04:16] <LordXavier> do i need to modify rules file so that when i build the package it will not compile it?
[04:16] <dsdeiz> Kalmi: what the? so network-manager is kinda buggy? hmm, removing it should solve my network issue
[04:16] <lyrae> she_dyed: am looking, but not finding =|
[04:16] <she_dyed> lyrae like keyword 'rotate;
[04:16] <Kalmi> dsdeiz, don't!
[04:16] <sebsebseb> distatica: well maybe not everytime I refer to another channel, but  probably after I tried to help them for a bit
[04:17] <dsdeiz> oh?
[04:17] <dsdeiz> Kalmi: didn't it solve your problem?
[04:17] <sambagirl> brb have to reboot
[04:17] <Kalmi> dsdeiz, what was my problem?
[04:17] <vertagano> Anyone know how I can fix my qt4 designer? I can use QT4 apps, but the designer seg faults before displaying anything.
[04:17] <sebsebseb> Vallim_Ubuntu: that was hidden .folderes in home
[04:17] <she_dyed> lyrae did  you pay full price for it or was it off the bargain bin ;-)
[04:18] <Kalmi> dsdeiz, if you remove it, you won't have networking :)
[04:18] <lyrae> she_dyed: eh? for the card? full price ;) although it's old (6600gt) because new one went bad (8800gtx)
[04:18] <Kalmi> dsdeiz, unless you edit /etc/network/interfaces manually
[04:18] <dsdeiz> oh mehn, cause i've read in some forums that the network-manager is messing up
[04:18] <dsdeiz> oh i see
[04:19] <dsdeiz> ok, thanks mate
[04:19] <distatica> dsdeiz: I missed a lot, what are your issues?
[04:19] <Kalmi> dsdeiz, I removed it because I needed bridging...
[04:20] <Kalmi> dsdeiz, what network issues do you have?
[04:20] <fornix> TroN-0074: try this link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReinhardTartler/X/RevertingIntelDriverTo2.4
[04:20] <dsdeiz> hmm,
[04:20] <lakotajames> How do I mount the filesystem from the command line to make it writable?
[04:20] <Vallim_Ubuntu> sebsebseb, sorry, I'm using the Linux  there is little time
[04:20] <distatica> network-manager is nice, but if you don't have to deal with wifi (I like it for that) then it's kinda pointless. /etc/network/interfaces isn't exactly rocket science.
[04:20] <needhelp1> sebsebseb: will changing the defualt number work as well
[04:20] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: number what?
[04:20] <needhelp1> instead of default = 0 i could change it to default = 3
[04:20] <dsdeiz> by default, ubuntu is usingn dhcp right?
[04:20] <felix_> im looking for a good c++ object oriented manual. i only know ansi c, and i would like to practice. i want to implement a hash algorithm
[04:20] <she_dyed> lyrae, omg i think we have the same kind
[04:20] <felix_> !c++
[04:20] <distatica> dsdeiz: yes
[04:20] <sebsebseb> Vallim_Ubuntu: I don't understand what your trying to say
[04:20] <bc> lyrae: is your 6600gt working fine?
[04:20] <Kalmi> dsdeiz, yes
[04:20] <Vallim_Ubuntu> sebsebseb,  I'm still crawling
[04:21] <|_ocke> i know about c++
[04:21] <dsdeiz> when i specified a static ip
[04:21] <dsdeiz> by right clicking then "edit connections"
[04:21] <sebsebseb> Vallim_Ubuntu: a lot to learn yet you mean?
[04:21] <she_dyed> bc he wants to rotate the screen 90 deg lyrae
[04:21] <dsdeiz> everything was going fine
[04:21] <lakotajames> An I gonna need to reformat the card, or what?
[04:21] <felix_> |_ocke, have a link?
[04:21] <sveakex> dsdeiz: you can use wicd for your network if networkmanager doesn't work
[04:21] <Vallim_Ubuntu> sebsebseb, yes
[04:21] <needhelp1> sebsebseb: follow me?
[04:21] <plasher2009> hello can anyone help me here?  I installed xubuntu everything seems to work ok except my sound.. I am new on this OS can anyone help?
[04:21] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: no
[04:21] <dsdeiz> i had internet connection and all.. then after that it says, "device is unmanaged"
[04:22] <dsdeiz> for my wired connection
[04:22] <Kalmi> sveakex, we don't even what's his problem yet :)
[04:22] <sebsebseb> Vallim_Ubuntu: sudo apt-get purge programname  that removes a program and config files, however program user data might be left behind in home
[04:22] <distatica> sveakex: unless there is something wrong with network-manager it might be best for dsdeiz to stick with it, since everyone is going to assume they have it
[04:22] <needhelp1> sebsebseb: in the menu.lst it has "default = 0."
[04:22] <sveakex> plasher2009: is your sound muted?
[04:22] <RHorse> dsdeiz you can use cli also
[04:22] <needhelp1> at the very top of the file
[04:22] <bc> she_dyed: I can't help with that, but I was going to put 6600gt on my 'ok nvidia' list if it is working well. :D
[04:22] <IndyGunFreak> plasher2009: well, does your sound no work at all, or is it not loud enough, or what?
[04:22] <dsdeiz> may i ask how?
[04:22] <needhelp1> sebsebseb: 0 being the first item in the list
[04:22] <sebsebseb> Vallim_Ubuntu: in hidden .folder     view  > show hiddne files and folder     and then  if you do view  >  list and then press  type.  it's in alphabetical order by type as well
[04:22] <needhelp1> it says i can change the number
[04:22] <vertagano> Anyone know how I can fix my qt4 designer? I can use QT4 apps, but the designer seg faults before displaying anything.
[04:22] <plasher2009> no sveakex.. my sound isnt muted.. it sounds only like a beep
[04:22] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: pastebin the menu.list
[04:23] <plasher2009> indygunfeak  my sound only beeps
[04:23] <TroN-0074> fornix thanks for the link
[04:23] <sveakex> Kalmi, distatica: well i heard nm is extremely buggy
[04:23] <IndyGunFreak> plasher2009: are you sure thats your speakers beeping, and not hte pC beeping?
[04:23] <lakotajames> Well, imma go to bed now.  Goodnight.  maybe you can help me tomorrow.
[04:23] <sveakex> plasher2009: open a terminal and do alsamixer and tell me what you see
[04:23] <needhelp1> sebsebseb: it just says default NUM
[04:23] <dsdeiz> i followed the instructions here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=940558
[04:23] <felix_> im looking for a good c++ object oriented manual. i only know ansi c, and i would like to practice. i want to implement a hash algorithm
[04:24] <needhelp1> num for the items in the list to auto load
[04:24] <fornix> TroN-0074: np
[04:24] <distatica> sveakex: couldn't verify that myself, always worked for me; although I prefer to edit my interfaces file directly anyways. Worried though that if they switch then they won't remember to mention that when looking for further instructions later.
[04:24] <Vallim_Ubuntu> sebsebseb, I want delete the program MyEclipse, do you know?! IDE for Java
[04:24] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: I don't know what your on about even, unless you show me the file
[04:24] <sebsebseb> !pastebin
[04:24] <RHorse> lakotajames gn, adios and hasta la vista
[04:24] <she_dyed> pffft mines a 6800 lyrae
[04:24] <distatica> sveakex: ubuntu is nice in that you mostly know what someone has on their system, especially newbies.
[04:24] <lakotajames> Goodnight RHorse.
[04:24] <sebsebseb> Vallim_Ubuntu: if you know the name use the command  I gave, if not find it in Synaptic package manager and right click and delete with config
[04:24] <plasher2009> well  it beeps on volume on..  but then I turn volume down and it doesnt beep so i think its the speakers beeping
[04:24] <lyrae> she_dyed: =]
[04:24] <sveakex> distatica: i use wicd for wifi or a bash script for ethernet
[04:24] <lyrae> Can't believe compiz doesn't have such feature, actually
[04:24] <dsdeiz> and it seemed to work fine
[04:24] <dsdeiz> and returned my internet connection
[04:24] <dsdeiz> but when i restart mycomputer
[04:24] <dsdeiz> i had to do that instructions again
[04:25] <FloodBot3> dsdeiz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:25] <needhelp1> for a backup file is it just BU ?
[04:25] <plasher2009> sveakex ok.. wait  i will tell you what i see wait a second
[04:25] <needhelp1> ill back up the menu
[04:25] <distatica> dsdeiz: ok, let me look at that page.
[04:25] <ubuntu_> nick ArrPirate
[04:25] <needhelp1> cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.lst_BU   is that right ?
[04:25] <sebsebseb> distatica: true, but that makes things a bit boring also, if you know what the newbies are bound to have installed.
[04:25] <dsdeiz> ok, thanks, mate..
[04:25] <Kalmi> sveakex, I don't think that nm is extremely buggy... That was quite long ago... (imho)
[04:25] <sebsebseb> distatica: with Windows you can wonder what rubbish programs people have installed and don't have installed :d
[04:25] <TroN-0074> what is the terminal command to bring the source list? please
[04:25] <dsdeiz> sorry FloodBot3 :D
[04:25] <distatica> dsdeiz: I am having some issues now, trying to do an update on a new install so it's making firefox have issues :)
[04:25] <lstarnes> needhelp1: .old and .bak are the usual backup extensions
[04:25] <she_dyed> lyrae, i know I saw somewhere about that can I pm you
[04:25] <sveakex> Kalmi: well i don't use it either, because it simple didn't work for me
[04:25] <lstarnes> needhelp1: it usually doesn't matter
[04:25] <dkulchenko> Guys, I am getting a message "There is still a process running in this terminal. Closing the terminal will kill it." when I try to close GNOME Terminal. It happens when 'mc' is running, which makes sense, but can I somehow make an exception for the message if only 'mc' is running?
[04:26] <Vallim_Ubuntu> sebsebseb,  with the Synaptic it will be removed all???
[04:26] <needhelp1> lstarnes: as long as i can remember it right?
[04:26] <lstarnes> needhelp1: yes
[04:26] <distatica> sebsebseb: with windows, there's a thousand less ways for them to mess it up though
[04:26] <RHorse> TroN-0074 try nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:26] <plasher2009> sveakex what u want to know on the terminal alsamixer window?
[04:26] <sebsebseb> Vallim_Ubuntu: if you right click on the app in there that you want to remove and  do config files as well
[04:26] <needhelp1> ill use .bak .. so it would be cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.lst_bak   like that?
[04:26] <ArrPirate> I installed Windows 7 and it wiped my grub setup and now I can't get it to reinstall. I do the usual steps: sudo grub, find /boot/grub/stage1/, root (x,y), setup (x), quit, reboot
[04:26] <distatica> sebsebseb: a newbie with root access is ... just deadly :)
[04:26] <she_dyed> dkulchenko, mc as in midnight commander?
[04:26] <ArrPirate> but when I reboot there's no grub menu and Windows 7 starts automatically
[04:26] <ArrPirate> how can I fix this?
[04:26] <sveakex> plasher2009: do you see PCM, Master?
[04:26] <she_dyed> dkulchenko, why dont you just exit it?
[04:26] <needhelp1> or is that wrong.. should it be  cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.bak  ?
[04:26] <sebsebseb> distatica: a newbie or not that technial user running  XP as admin which is the default,  is rather deadly as well
[04:26] <lstarnes> needhelp1: yes, but you might want menu.lst.bak, not menu.lst_bak
[04:26] <distatica> dsdeiz: I can't get the page loaded, this isn't great timing
[04:27] <dsdeiz> distatica: oh, it's okay. i can wait..
[04:27] <sebsebseb> distatica: hence why loads of Windows computers have been taken over by criminals
[04:27] <distatica> sebsebseb: can you tell from that page what he/she's done?
[04:27] <Kalmi> sveakex, ok :s (It always worked fine for... however in the end I always disabled it, because I need bridging to work (for VMs))
[04:27] <needhelp1> lstarnes: ahh ok.. so   cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.lst.bak
[04:27] <Vallim_Ubuntu> sebsebseb, I will use the command you said me
[04:27] <lyrae> she_dyed: okay :)
[04:27] <sebsebseb> distatica: I wasn't following the issue you were helping with
[04:27] <sveakex> Kalmi: nm scares me almost..
[04:27] <distatica> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=940558
[04:27] <Kalmi> sveakex, :D
[04:27] <dkulchenko> she_dyed: yeah, but i'm used to just closing the terminal, and letting mc terminate.
[04:27] <distatica> what are those instructions for?
[04:27] <distatica> I'm updating firefox so i can't open it
[04:28] <needhelp1> lstarnes: it says it cannot do that because of permissions
[04:28] <dsdeiz> stopped /etc/inid./networking, killed network-manager and nm-system-settings.conf, then restarted /etc/ini.d/networking
[04:28] <sveakex> plasher2009: ?
[04:28] <plasher2009> sveakex yes i see PCM bars
[04:29] <lstarnes> needhelp1: put sudo before it
[04:29] <lstarnes> needhelp1: or copy the file to somewhere under your home directory
[04:29] <distatica> dsdeiz: hmm, then it comes down to those init scripts, or something. The only reason for it not working after reboot (that I can see off hand) is that it's not setup to do it again on reboot.
[04:29] <distatica> so it goes back to normal
[04:29] <distatica> even if normal is broken
[04:29] <ArrPirate> I just installed Windows 7 and it wiped out my grub menu and the normal method for fixing grub isn't working. Can someone help me?
[04:29] <plasher2009> well PCM bar its all full
[04:29] <distatica> it's the same issue with changing your hostname, easy to do but unless it's setup to run on startup most methods don't stick
[04:29] <sebsebseb> distatica: oh you wanted a menu.list pastebin like I did?
[04:29] <sveakex> plasher2009: and Master?
[04:29] <sebsebseb> distatica: needhelp1 hasn't done one
[04:29] <Kalmi> sveakex, have you ever used Internet Connection Sharing in Windows? :D It feels so good when you disable it and it changes the (remote headless) machine's ip to dhcp...
[04:29] <scunizi> ArrPirate: why would you do that as a dual boot and not in a vm in virtualbox
[04:30] <distatica> sebsebseb: I can't open firefox right now, and I can't install lynx or anything because apt is busy, I was just wondering what he had done on his system from thatpage.
[04:30] <plasher2009> the MASTER M  bar is empty
[04:30] <ArrPirate> scunizi: because my computer isn't powerful enough for that
[04:30] <sveakex> Kalmi: no, windows almost scares me aswell..
[04:30] <distatica> sebsebseb: what dsdeiz had done I mean
[04:30] <aliciapg> does anyone know anything about zoneminder?
[04:30] <savid> Help! I need to mount a Mac OSX drive as read-write from an ubuntu livecd.  Is this possible?  When I try to write to it I get "Read-only filesystem", even though "mount" shows is as "rw".  Any ideas?
[04:30] <distatica> to his networking
[04:30] <sveakex> plasher2009: press up
[04:30] <sveakex> plasher2009: to fill it up
[04:30] <sebsebseb> distatica: who?
[04:30] <CaneToad> What linux software can I used to put together a video to be burned to DVD where the video consists of a series of audio tracks and the video consists of just a photo that shows during the audio track?
[04:30] <Vallim_Ubuntu>  sebsebseb , are you there?
[04:30] <scunizi> !grub
[04:30]  * distatica kicks his upgrade
[04:30] <Kalmi> sveakex, do you use X?
[04:31] <plasher2009> sveakex  there are two master bars.. the Master is fulll and the Master M is empty
[04:31] <sebsebseb> distatica: ah ha  distatica
[04:31] <distatica> sebsebseb: dsdeiz performed the instructions here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=940558
[04:31] <sveakex> Kalmi: yes, why?
[04:31] <scunizi> ArrPirate: have you see the above link
[04:31] <distatica> sebsebseb: what are those instructions?
[04:31] <distatica> can you see why it won't stick after reboot?
[04:31] <sebsebseb> Vallim_Ubuntu: yes
[04:31] <ArrPirate> scunizi: yes, and I've done it
[04:31] <sveakex> plasher2009: try filling the second one
[04:31] <ArrPirate> scunizi: Did you not see where I said the normal method isn't working?
[04:31] <Vallim_Ubuntu> sebastien,  do you use the Synaptic for to installer your programs?
[04:31] <needhelp1> distatica lstarnes i think i can change the defualt number at the top of the menu.lst  to something other than 1 to change the boot order
[04:31] <Kalmi> ArrPirate, what have you tried?
[04:31] <needhelp1> im not sure though
[04:32] <she_dyed> lyrae the more recent entry: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=682821
[04:32] <distatica> sebsebseb: nevermind, upgrade done, I can check it now
[04:32] <plasher2009> sveakex  the Master and Master M are now full
[04:32] <scunizi> ArrPirate: there are different versions of "normal.." one of the links is specifically for when you install windows after ubuntu
[04:32] <ArrPirate> sudo grub, find /boot/grub/stage1, etc
[04:32] <needhelp1> it says    default = 0
[04:32] <sveakex> plasher2009: try playing some sound
[04:32] <sebsebseb> distatica: good since, I wasn't sure what I would copy in
[04:32] <ArrPirate> scunizi: I did that, it didn't work. Listen to me.
[04:32] <sebsebseb> distatica: after looking at that
[04:32] <scunizi> ArrPirate: I believe you.. good luck
[04:32] <needhelp1> my windows is number 4 in my list so
[04:32] <needhelp1> making it default = 4
[04:33] <needhelp1> should work
[04:33] <plasher2009> sveakex I just installed xubuntu.. any tip to find a quick sound to test?
[04:33] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: I don't understand your number stuff
[04:33] <distatica> dsdeiz: can you please paste the contents of the file /etc/networking/interfaces to pastebin.ca ?
[04:33] <needhelp1> sebsebseb: open your grub menu and peek
[04:33] <TroN-0074> I need to add a line to my souce list how can I bring this list up? Please
[04:33] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: no
[04:33] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: you don't understand
[04:33] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: we don't all have the same menu.list file
[04:33] <distatica> sebsebseb: the instruction "as long as your /etc/networking/interfaces file is correct...." doesn't explain much.
[04:34] <needhelp1> sebsebseb: i would think it would have this default numbering system though..
[04:34] <sveakex> plasher2009: try runinng aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
[04:34] <aliciapg> does anyone know anything about zoneminder?
[04:34] <felix_> plasher2009, "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree" close firefox and open a youtube video
[04:34] <sveakex> in a terminal
[04:34] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: I don't have a number system
[04:34] <needhelp1> the list arnt numbered
[04:34] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: or I don't understand what your refering to
[04:34] <needhelp1> just the defualt number is defined
[04:34] <needhelp1> at the very top of the page
[04:34] <sebsebseb> needhelp1: numberse like  hd0,0 ?  hd0,1 ?
[04:34] <needhelp1> there is no numbers in the list
[04:34] <TheFunkbomb> quick question.  I'm going to format my machine, probably tomorrow.  Is there any way I can back up all the packages I've installed?
[04:34] <she_dyed> needhelp1, i think i know what you mean, but i think count starts at 0
[04:34] <distatica> needhelp1: I don't know what you're trying to do, but if it's select the default entry you start at the first listing and call that 0, then the next is 1, then so forth.
[04:34] <needhelp1> only a defualt number
[04:35] <needhelp1> she_dyed: yeah
[04:35] <sebsebseb> distatica: he wants Windows to be the default boot
[04:35] <distatica> so if your first entry is for windows, then default 0 boots windows
[04:35] <needhelp1> distatica: right.. but my fist entry is ubuntu
[04:35] <needhelp1> windows is 3 down so that would be
[04:35] <distatica> needhelp1: 4
[04:35] <needhelp1> default = 2
[04:35] <plasher2009> sveakex ok will try to find a test sound wait a second
[04:35] <distatica> erm lol
[04:35] <needhelp1> opps yeah 4 down
[04:35] <distatica> you're right
[04:35] <RHorse> TheFunkbomb back up  the /home dir
[04:36] <sebsebseb> distatica: I told him to put  Windows first  for the OS enteries, but he didn't understnad
[04:36] <sveakex> plasher2009: you should hear a woman say front center
[04:36] <TheFunkbomb> RHorse, that's it?
[04:36] <Zephryos> Got a question! I have a 2GB flash drive and I'm trying to install Ubuntu to it to where I run my laptop off it. I'm getting an error that it doesnt have enough room. pendrivelinux.com says the 2gb stick is enough... Am I setting something up wrong?
[04:36] <needhelp1> distatica: is this way better than physically moving the entrys around?
[04:36] <RHorse> TheFunkbomb most configs are  there
[04:36] <doc_brown> i'm trying to install a pdf tool called pdfsam (split and merge)  I have a zip file with some directories in it.  i'm pretty good with tar.gz installs, .sh files and such, but I'm stumped here.  http://www.pdfsam.org/?page_id=32
[04:36] <TheFunkbomb> sweet
[04:36] <TheFunkbomb> thanks
[04:36] <sterilegenie> I have a video_ts file that Im trying to burn to DVD using brasero but the dvd wont play on home DVD player. Burning the same video_ts file under windows results in a playable dvd. Anyone know whats going on?
[04:36] <distatica> needhelp1: technically, it doesn't matter, just start at entry ubuntu (0) and count, and put that in
[04:36] <distatica> so if your windows is the 4th entry, then type 3
[04:36] <distatica> if I got that right, I think I do ;)
[04:36] <plasher2009> sveakex the comands you told me are for the terminal window?  please have patiente cause I am new on this OS
[04:37] <sebsebseb> distatica: what is this entry number system thing?
[04:37] <scunizi> sterilegenie: install k3b
[04:37] <sveakex> plasher2009: yes
[04:37] <dsdeiz> distatica: kindly excuse me for a moment.. i need to go to lunch.. hehe
[04:37] <sebsebseb> distatica: I just move the whole entry if I want Windows to be default boot,  and make it the first one, then when a new kernel installs.  I have to do that agian
[04:37] <plasher2009> sveakex  ok  I will copy commands and paste them on terminal.. wait a second
[04:37] <sterilegenie> using Gnome and dont want to install any KDE packages on this system
[04:37] <distatica> dsdeiz: I will likely not be here, but paste your interfaces file and I'm sure someone can help you.
[04:37] <distatica> I am assuming for a mintue that file might not be setup correctly.
[04:38] <sterilegenie> BTW Nero Linux results in the same problem
[04:38] <distatica> sebsebseb: but I believe if you just set the number you don't need to redo it for a new kernel
[04:38] <distatica> not positive on that
[04:38] <sveakex> plasher2009: aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
[04:38] <needhelp1> distatica: there is a divider in my list it says #this is a divider.. but then lists an entry. Do i count this one too?
[04:38] <sebsebseb> distatica: what's the number?
[04:38] <distatica> needhelp1: only the entry, nothing with # counts
[04:38] <needhelp1> # This is a divider, added to separate the menu items below from the Debian
[04:38] <needhelp1> # ones.
[04:38] <needhelp1> title		Other operating systems:
[04:38] <needhelp1> root
[04:38] <distatica> that's a comment, and it means nothing to the computer
[04:38] <FloodBot3> needhelp1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:38] <doc_brown> i have a zip that contains bin, doc, lib, plugins directories.  it also has xml, jar, and exe files
[04:39] <Mooch> Loaded my modem drivers with8.10 but Wvdialconf is being a pain
[04:39] <distatica> needhelp1: no flooding please, there's enough darn traffic in here as is :)
[04:39] <needhelp1> distatica: it lists the entry without the #
[04:39] <needhelp1> distatica: sorry
[04:39] <sebsebseb> sterilegenie: humm  you can  burn DVD's on Desktop Linux, you can also play commercial DVD's with the correct program
[04:39] <doc_brown> i need to know help installing it
[04:39] <distatica> needhelp1: just paste this, pastebin.ca
[04:39] <distatica> I will look and tell you, much faster / simpler.
[04:39] <g0wda> is compiz diff from beryl?? (beryl is compiz' fork rite?)
[04:39] <sebsebseb> sterilegenie: if I am going to burn something I  would normalley use K3B :) which yep is a KDE app :d
[04:39] <Zephryos> Suggestions anyone? Or do I need to do a different Distrobution? Any recommedations as such? I'm wanting to use the laptop for IM chatting and college work in house only.
[04:40] <needhelp1> gona restart and test it out
[04:40] <needhelp1> brb
[04:40] <g0wda>  is compiz diff from beryl?? (beryl is compiz' fork rite?)
[04:40] <g0wda> ?
[04:40] <sterilegenie> do i need to have the css2 lib installed to burn  a file to dvd
[04:40] <Yankefish> ok i need help i deleted network manager now i have no access
[04:40] <scunizi> Zephryos: I missed your question .. what are you wanting to do
[04:40] <ofx> gents, i have a usb modem which gets disconnected after some time of use....
[04:40] <plasher2009> sveakex I hear the sound... its working now.... Thanks for your your help...      you have win a buddy from here on Mexico.. thanks  man!!!
[04:40] <ofx> any clue?
[04:40] <distatica> sebsebseb: doesn't needhelp1 need to run a grub command to update that before he reboots?
[04:40] <sebsebseb> sterilegenie: libdvdcss2/3 is for playing commercial DVD's
[04:41] <Zephryos> scunizi: I have a 2GB flash drive and I'm trying to install Ubuntu to it to where I run my laptop off it. I'm getting an error that it doesnt have enough room. pendrivelinux.com says the 2gb stick is enough... Am I setting something up wrong?
[04:41] <sveakex> plasher2009: everybody from south america likes me :) you're welcome
[04:41] <Mooch> does anyone know how to get wvdialconf to work in 8.10
[04:41] <doc_brown> sebsebseb, can you help me out bro?
[04:41] <DIONISIO> hola
[04:41] <DIONISIO> !list
[04:41] <sterilegenie> yeah I dont have that installed ATM.
[04:41] <sebsebseb> distatica: not if  he updated the menu.list how I said
[04:41] <plasher2009> sveakex  .hahaha  youre a Southamerican Idol. haha
[04:41] <sveakex> plasher2009: yes ;)
[04:41] <sebsebseb> sterilegenie: it's in the medibuntu repo
[04:41] <distatica> sebsebseb: good
[04:41] <sebsebseb> !medibuntu
[04:41] <Mooch> Your gonna need 16GB flash drive
[04:41] <ofx> does anyone experienced a USB disconnection after some time of being using a device?
[04:41] <Tetracomm> How do I prevent GDM or X from loading automatically on startup in Ubuntu 8.10?
[04:41] <Yankefish> is there anyways to restore network manager i have no internet now
[04:41] <sterilegenie> This will resolve my issue?
[04:42] <sebsebseb> sterilegenie: it will allow you to play  commercial DVD's
[04:42] <distatica> doc_brown: install what?
[04:42] <parulian> the nautilus can open now
[04:42] <Zephryos> Mooch: Me?
[04:42] <plasher2009> sveakex do Youtube suppose to work normally after installing plugins.. or its different in this xubuntu OS??
[04:42] <parulian> thanx all
[04:42] <distatica> doc_brown: I got that you have a "zip" which is just a compressed file
[04:42] <parulian> ^_^
[04:42] <sebsebseb> sterilegenie: ,but burning your own DVD  movie is another story
[04:42] <sebsebseb> story/issue
[04:42] <doc_brown> distatica, pdfsam is a pdf tool (split and merge)\
[04:42] <sterilegenie> What about burning a working dvd that can be played on a home dvd player?
[04:42] <scunizi> Zephryos: I've done it with the  netbook version.. nice screen on it.. loaded on a 1 gigger.. there was a different program I had to get off a PPA to do it..let me look.
[04:42] <sebsebseb> doc_brown: help with what?
[04:42] <Mooch> Yeah Zephryos
[04:42] <sveakex> plasher2009: you will maybe have to install flash
[04:42] <sebsebseb> distatica: notice how that guy picked me, and then you?
[04:42] <doc_brown> sebsebseb, me and distatica have it i believe
[04:42] <cyberjorge> how do I install GTK 2.0 in ubuntu 8.10?
[04:43] <Mooch> My HD took 9 gb for a full install
[04:43] <sterilegenie> This worked in 8.10 but 9.04 it does not. Im stumped
[04:43] <doc_brown> distatica, see this page http://www.pdfsam.org/?page_id=32
[04:43] <distatica> sebsebseb: I noticed him ask you, but you'vegot enough on your plate :)
[04:43] <lyrae> ctrl alt backspce isnt restarting x. why is this
[04:43] <sebsebseb> sterilegenie: oh it should still work
[04:43] <plasher2009> sveakex, I already installed flash  let me see if Youtube is working..
[04:43] <doc_brown> distatica, i got the zip archive (looked most appropriate)
[04:43] <sebsebseb> sterilegenie: since your doing  a DVD that  hasn't got the encryption
[04:43] <sveakex> plasher2009: if flash is installed it should work
[04:43] <crdlb> cyberjorge: what are you compiling?
[04:43] <sterilegenie> Thats why Im stumped
[04:43] <distatica> doc_brown: ok, I see now
[04:44] <durt> lyrae, it's disabled in Jaunty
[04:44] <lyrae> durt: so how does one restart x?
[04:44] <distatica> doc_brown: are you familiar with command line at all?
[04:44] <Mooch> Can anyone help me get wvdialconf to work
[04:44] <doc_brown> distatica, yes im comfortable with it now
[04:44] <sebsebseb> sterilegenie: you can even  make your DVD using command line :d   you can Google to find out how
[04:44] <coreyman> lyrae shift sysrq k
[04:44] <sveakex> command line is awesome
[04:44] <lyrae> thanks
[04:44] <distatica> doc_brown: open up a console and create a temporary directory in your home: mkdir ~/pdfsam
[04:44] <cyberjorge> crdlb: i need to run a touchscreen calibration utility, it says in its readme to make sure to install GTK 2.0
[04:44] <distatica> doc_brown: put that zip into it
[04:44] <durt> lyrae, ctrl-alt-f1 type 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart'
[04:44] <sterilegenie> I did try it from command but it still produces a unusable dvd
[04:45] <lyrae> durt: ah ok. thanks
[04:45] <distatica> doc_brown: I'm downloading it here, going to go through this with you best I can
[04:45] <durt> lyrae, ur, login first
[04:45] <doc_brown> distatica, thanks
[04:45] <genii> Mooch: For your dialup issue. Did you issue: sudo pppconfig      and fill out your connection info? This will make a wvdial config file. Then you can connect/disconnect with pon and poff
[04:45] <sebsebseb> sveakex: yeah
[04:45] <scunizi> Zephryos: check out post #4 in this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1166268&highlight=live+usb
[04:45] <distatica> doc_brown: navigate to that directory (cd ~/pdfsam) and run this command: unzip pdfsam-1.1.2-out.zip
[04:45] <sebsebseb> sterilegenie: maybe your issue is a good one for the Ubuntu forums
[04:45] <distatica> doc_brown: assuming we have the same file
[04:46] <distatica> either way, hit tab after p and you should be flying
[04:46] <crdlb> cyberjorge: you already have that; nearly every app on an ubuntu system is using gtk+-2.0, but you need the libgtk2.0-dev package if you're compiling something against gtk
[04:46] <doc_brown> distatica, we do
[04:46] <sveakex> sebsebseb: i don't even use a filemanager anymore.. it feels like it is always in the way :p
[04:46] <Vallim_Ubuntu> anybody use MyEclipse for programming Java?
[04:46] <sterilegenie> Thats my next step. Thanks for burning brain cells with me:)
[04:46] <sebsebseb> sterilegenie: or someone who actsaully makes  home DVD's on Linux, and hasn't just converted AVI to DVD before using Linux
[04:46] <distatica> doc_brown: do you know if you have java installed?
[04:47] <sveakex> plasher2009: works?
[04:47] <doc_brown> distatica, im sure i do
[04:47] <plasher2009> sveakex  on youtube the sound plays but the video stays blank...
[04:47] <distatica> doc_brown: try running: java -jar pdfsame-1.1.2.jar
[04:47] <sveakex> plasher2009: blank?
[04:47] <Mooch> genii : no the instructions have shows me how to fill out the dial up info in Gedit but what do I do from there?
[04:47] <sveakex> plasher2009: try a different video
[04:47] <distatica> doc_brown: I do not have it, so I cannot tell
[04:47] <distatica> doc_brown: it's installing right now I believe with eclipse
[04:47] <plasher2009> sveakex  ok let me try different video
[04:48] <distatica> doc_brown: well, downloading
[04:48] <genii> Mooch: If you have some valid wvdial.conf file, you can issue just pon
[04:48] <sebsebseb> sveakex: commands instead of file manager :d
[04:49] <sveakex> sebsebseb: yeah :)
[04:49] <distatica> Why is it that when you're in a hurry, and want to go home, and the wife calls to come pick you up and she's here and the kid wants to go too, that things take longer to install.
[04:50] <Mooch> genii: In Gedit I filled out my dialing info now what do I do from there do I click on save or what?
[04:50] <plasher2009> sveakex I tried other video but just sound playing.. the space where the video suppose to be is all white.. not even the video square showing...
[04:50] <genii> Mooch: Ideally, yes.
[04:50] <sveakex> plasher2009: that is odd
[04:51] <Mooch> genii: I did that then I get a I/O error no such file or directory
[04:51] <lyrae> she_dyed: worked. thank yo u
[04:51] <jr_> got a quick question i have 2 monitors and when i set my desktop background it spans both monitors and i want it to just be background on each stretch
[04:51] <jr_> any help?
[04:51] <plasher2009> sveakex what do you recommend?  is there another browser on xubuntu to try.....
[04:51] <Vallim_Ubuntu> no program in Java?
[04:51] <sveakex> plasher2009: i don't think it is your browser, are you running xubuntu 9.04?
[04:51] <distatica> doc_brown: must run upstairs to stop my wife from killing me for a moment, I will not see any messages sent to me; sebsebseb might be able to help you though if he's not busy.
[04:52] <doc_brown> distatica, good luck
[04:52] <plasher2009> sveakex.. yes its 9.04
[04:52] <cg> hello. what's the effect of 'export' when dim a env var ? it seems that without 'export' it works as well
[04:52] <genii> Mooch: I recommend instead of manually editing config files: sudo pppconfig     ..this command will bring you to a text-based setup for your dial-up connection. After you fill out the info in the different sections here, it will automagically make your conf files which are required.
[04:52] <welltb> hello...just a quick question:  How does Ubuntu handle RAR files...?  As simple Archives?  and therefore with Archive Manager?
[04:52] <sebsebseb> welltb: eww RAR
[04:53] <sebsebseb> welltb: that horrible propritary Windows format
[04:53] <cg> welltb: sudo apt-get install rar unrar
[04:53] <sebsebseb> !rar | welltb
[04:53] <welltb> eh...i know...i downloaded something off of TPB and it was in that format...
[04:53] <sveakex> plasher2009: hold on
[04:53] <doc_brown> distatica, thanks so much it worked (the jar file)
[04:53] <cReAtivE_> hi! how to reconfigure xserver-xorg to use vesa ?
[04:53] <sebsebseb> !piracy | welltb
[04:53] <plasher2009> sveakex ok  I will hold on
[04:54] <Mooch> genii: ah ok so after I finish filling the info out what do I need to do afterwards
[04:54] <welltb> understood...sorry..
[04:54] <losher> cg: in bash, when you export a variable, programs started from that shell can see its value. It's a primitive form of IPC
[04:54] <genii> Mooch: After you have the correct info in there and back to command-line, you should be able to dial out with the command: pon      and to disconnect with the command: poff
[04:55]  * doc_brown sure hopes distatica doesn't die by the hand of his wife tonight =\
[04:55] <whatvn> welltb: what extension of downloaded file?
[04:55] <sebsebseb> whatvn: to late he already has his solution
[04:56] <welltb> whatvn: what do you mean?  i'm kindof a noob...
[04:56] <Pixels> is iptables and Ubuntu firewall activated and ON by default?  Or do I need to activate it?
[04:56] <whatvn> sebsebseb: you didn't give him solution, you give him warning
[04:56] <sebsebseb> whatvn: he got his unrar solution as well
[04:56] <unikon> is there a torrent program for linux thats not a hog like azureus is
[04:56] <karikato> how can i force a monitor resolution on xorg.conf?
[04:56] <distatica> doc_brown: back, get it working?
[04:57] <sebsebseb> unikon: yes, but what do you want to download?
[04:57] <doc_brown> distatica, yes yes yes!  thanks so much
[04:57] <distatica> doc_brown: excellent, not a problem :)
[04:57] <Pixels> is iptables and Ubuntu firewall activated and ON by default?  Or do I need to activate it?
[04:57] <doc_brown> distatica, why were you going to die?
[04:57] <sveakex> plasher2009: try sudo apt-get reinstall swfdec-mozilla
[04:57] <distatica> doc_brown: Because I can't leave right now, I'm installing eclipse and then openvz on my laptop (required for my job) and I have no internet at home
[04:57] <eloya> hello!... can anybody readme?
[04:57] <plasher2009> sveakex  ok  wait
[04:57] <she_dyed> lyrae, you're welcome; am glad
[04:58] <distatica> doc_brown: and my wife wants to go home
[04:58] <sveakex> plasher2009: in the terminal'
[04:58] <genii> Pixels: iptables is installed by default bt contains no rules. You need some app like firestarter to make rules for your firewall
[04:58] <sebsebseb> eloya: no since your not a book
[04:58] <welltb> unikon: try aria2c.  you have to install it, then for terminal: aria2c (torrentfilename.torrent)  try that...
[04:58] <unikon> pdf's   document iso's from work
[04:58] <eloya> ja ja ja!!! ok... Im new here...
[04:58] <Pixels> genii: what happens if I dont make any rules?
[04:58] <sebsebseb> eloya: or newspaper or magazine or some such
[04:58] <unikon> ah thanks
[04:58] <sveakex> plasher2009: when you did that close firefox and open it again
[04:58] <TheFunkbomb> can someone help me to use fstab?  I'm trying to mount my windows drive
[04:58] <whatvn> welltb: noone is kindof noob, you're just a beginner
[04:58] <doc_brown> distatica, try sudo -i  "root@distatica-office $ wife-shutup and be patient"
[04:58] <Sagaci> Pixels: it doesn't work
[04:59] <welltb> thanks for the confidence...take it easy...
[04:59] <eloya> im using irss... but this is a mess
[04:59] <Pixels> what doesnt work?
[04:59] <distatica> doc_brown: naturally I disable root access through ssh for security reasons :)
[04:59] <genii> Pixels: If your computer is directly connected out (bridged modem for instance) it is vulnerable to probing. If you have a router inbetween and your computer gets a LAN number you're pretty safe. Most routers do not allow unsolicited incoming traffic.
[04:59] <sveakex> distatica: disable the root password!
[04:59] <doc_brown> distatica, you could always borrow a neighbors...
[05:00] <eloya> I can read various chat... Im confousing
[05:00] <sebsebseb> TheFunkbomb: that should just work, as long as it was shut down properly by Windows
[05:00] <distatica> doc_brown: negative, I live in a trailer 15 minutes out of town, no networks
[05:00] <rkitect> could i use a line from mtab verbatim in fstab to mount a filesystem at boot?
[05:00] <she_dyed> eloya post your question
[05:00] <whatvn> off-topic!
[05:00] <distatica> "this is a multimeter, that's a multimeter papa" <G> this kid is going to be a geek.
[05:00] <sebsebseb> !ot | whatvn
[05:00] <Pixels> why dont I need to create rules for the Ubuntu firewall?
[05:00] <distatica> sveakex: root login is disabled, admin account and then sudo only.
[05:01] <genii> Mooch: Please do not message me. I assist only in public channel. As for what info you require to tell pppconfig, you need to consult your ISP login info. Most are dynamic
[05:01] <plasher2009> sveakex  it  says  invalid operation reinstall
[05:01] <doc_brown> distatica, well thanks again
[05:01] <distatica> doc_brown: not a problem, glad it worked for you :)
[05:01] <whatvn> sebsebseb: I've here for years
[05:01] <chris_> I came back from <a place> and apparently my X-server is acting up.  How would I restart X-Server?
[05:01] <TheFunkbomb> sebsebseb, in the partition editor, it says "Unable to read the contents of this file system"
[05:02] <chris_> I'm in virtual console at the moment. >_>
[05:02] <sebsebseb> whatvn: ok
[05:02] <distatica> chris_: ctrl+alt+backspace
[05:02] <eloya> ammm.... I will read the irssi manual... thank you all :-)
[05:02] <ziroday> chris_: startx
[05:02] <sveakex> plasher2009: did you spell it right?
[05:02] <chris_> distatica: That doesn't work.  As I need to install dontzap and toggle on something.
[05:02] <sveakex> or
[05:02] <sveakex> plasher2009: do this
[05:02] <sebsebseb> TheFunkbomb: not sure, someone else is bound to be able to help
[05:02] <sveakex> plasher2009: try sudo apt-get remove swfdec-mozilla
[05:02] <ziroday> chris_: if you want to stop it /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[05:03] <chris_> ziroday: That'll restart the server.. or just start the session? I already have a X-session running.
[05:03] <plasher2009> sveakex  ok  wait second
[05:03] <TheFunkbomb> sebsebseb, have you ever set up a dual boot with a shared partition before?
[05:03] <sveakex> plasher2009: after that try youtube, if it doesn't work do the same command again but replace remove with install
[05:03] <chris_> ziroday: Okay.  I'll try on second virtual console.
[05:03] <sebsebseb> TheFunkbomb: don't quit remember
[05:03] <sebsebseb> TheFunkbomb: ,but yes I done dual boot a few times
[05:04] <TheFunkbomb> sebsebseb, did you ever have a third partition for sharing files between Windows and Ubunut?
[05:04] <TheFunkbomb> err Ubuntu
[05:04] <whatvn> TheFunkbomb: run sudo shutdown -r -F now to repair that partition, if it's ext3 or linux filesystem
[05:04] <sebsebseb> TheFunkbomb: that's for newbies
[05:04] <sebsebseb> TheFunkbomb: sharing files with Windows eww
[05:04] <rkitect> can an entry in mtab be used verbatim in fstab to mount a filesystem at boot?
[05:04] <chris_> ziroday: gdm stopped and I tried the same command with start parameter, and it said failed.
[05:04] <ziroday> chris_: try doing starts
[05:04] <sebsebseb> TheFunkbomb: makes more sense to have your really good files in Ubuntu, and your not so good ones in Windows.  and you  should just be able to access the Windows partition no problem as well from Ubuntu
[05:05] <ziroday> chris_: startx
[05:05] <distatica> sebsebseb: since I discovered vbox, I couldn't imagine having dual boot. Except for games I really can't see a reason
[05:05] <TheFunkbomb> nevermind.  Thanks anyway
[05:05] <sebsebseb> TheFunkbomb: ,but yes I think I shared a data partition  at some stage between  Windows and Ubuntu
[05:05] <sveakex> distatica: how do games work in vbox?
[05:05] <ArrPirate> I installed Windows 7 and it has completely screwed up grub. I try reinstalling grub and nothing happens, I reboot and it goes straight to Windows 7. I even went so far as to reinstall Ubuntu and again, straight to Windows 7
[05:05] <plasher2009> sveakex  ok with this last command it removes mozilla right.. so I need to install it again?  whats the install command>?
[05:05] <chris_> ziroday: Error.  Server X already active at 0.  And ask me to consult to Xorg. :)
[05:05] <distatica> sveakex: I don't play games, but I can't imagine very good
[05:05] <sebsebseb> distatica: well  I don't think Vista works well in  Virtualbox under 1GB RAM
[05:05] <ziroday> chris_: do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop again
[05:05] <chris_> !grub | ArrPirate
[05:06] <distatica> sebsebseb: oh, I was under the impression that only crazed folk use vista :)
[05:06] <ArrPirate> chris_ I already tried that!
[05:06] <sebsebseb> distatica: yeah I tried to boot up from my Vista DVD with not much luck.  and this computer came with Vista, so I have it installed, but hardly ever boot it up
[05:06] <ArrPirate> chris_ That is the second time I've been shown that
[05:06] <sebsebseb> distatica: it's there if I ever want to get into  3D  Windows gaming or whatever
[05:06] <sveakex> plasher2009: try firefox after the uninstall, the install command is the same as the uninstall command, you only write install instead of remove
[05:06] <sebsebseb> distatica: above my Vista DVD and virtualbox no luck
[05:06] <plasher2009> sveakex ok  let me try it
[05:06] <sveakex> distatica: minesweeper 8D
[05:06] <sebsebseb> distatica: 1GB RAM here also so that must of been why
[05:07] <distatica> sebsebseb: when it comes to that, xp is better anyways for handling that kind of stuff, since it doesn't drain all your resources.
[05:07] <distatica> and if you have that much extra resources to run vista and games, then I imagine you could run most games with wine (although that's hit or miss too
[05:07] <distatica> sebsebseb: 1G here too
[05:07] <sebsebseb> distatica: I had a triple boot once on this computer,  Ubuntu, XP, and Vista,  sound woudn't work on XP since needed some driver I didn't know what.  of course  XP   would work fine in Virtualbox and the sound, since it could use host for sound
[05:07] <sebsebseb> !ot
[05:08] <jbbarnes> Does "apt-get upgrade" simply do the same thing as installing the latest patches that the GUI app notifies you about? Or is it more comprehensive?
[05:08] <sebsebseb> distatica: we are yeah
[05:08] <distatica> hehe, this boys telling me how he drinks pop and burps, then gets a mustache from it, all while he's "working on the server"
[05:08] <mobi-sheep> ziroday: Thank you. :)
[05:08] <sveakex> jbbarnes: yes if you are root
[05:08] <rkitect> can a line from mtab be used verbatim in fstab to mount a filesystem at boot?
[05:08] <genii> rkitect: No
[05:08] <distatica> jbbarnes: it's the same thing
[05:09] <ArrPirate> I installed Windows 7 and it wiped out grub and reinstalling grub didn't work and neither did completely reinstalling ubuntu entirely and if I get the '!grub' links again I'm going to scream.
[05:09] <whatvn> rkitect: why you want to do that?
[05:09] <sakuramboo> i posted two weeks ago on the forum about my clock skipping a second about every 15 or so seconds, it seems that its not just the clock, but the entire system seems to "skip" for about a half a second, this has been going on since i upgraded to 8.10 and now in 9.04, but htop doesnt tell of any rouge app causing spikes in the cpu usage. i checked the xorg log and there were two warnings, one for a font, the other for v4l, i doubt those 
[05:09] <jbbarnes> sveakex, I have an Ubuntu Server machine with no GUI so I just wanted to make sure that command wasn't some type of major overhaul. Thanks.
[05:09] <rkitect> because when i use the normal fstab options, the physical drive no loner shows up to the system.  trying to find out a was to enter the mount points in fstab without the physical disc disappearing
[05:09] <user__> whenever i import nautilus action i get This XML file is not a valid Nautilus-actions config file (missing keys: )
[05:09] <whatvn> ArrPirate: you didn't reinstall grub correctly
[05:09] <user__> help
[05:10] <felix_> ArrPirate, download debian  lenny and use its grub recovery from cd
[05:10] <sveakex> jbbarnes: well that command will not work if you are a normal user regardless if you run a server or a desktop
[05:10] <whatvn> felix_: Ubuntu is a live cd, with grub installer too
[05:10] <mobi-sheep> ziroday: In case you didn't know why I said it -- I was chris_  ;)
[05:11] <ArrPirate> whatvn, felix_, I've done what the links here have told me to do: sudo grub, find /boot/grub/stage1, root (hd0,4), setup (hd0), quit, reboot
[05:11] <felix_> whatvn, but doesnt have boot recovery feature
[05:11] <ziroday> mobi-sheep: great
[05:11] <brEz> Hi, I want to add an IP to my wlan0 interface, but when I reboot it's gone - how to I make this work and auto-add it on startup?
[05:11] <ArrPirate> where hd0,4 is whate find /boot/grub/stage1 says it is
[05:11] <user__> whenever i import nautilus action i get This XML file is not a valid Nautilus-actions config file (missing keys: )
[05:12] <jbbarnes> I'll run it with sudo. Thanks.
[05:12] <plasher2009> sveakex  hey man  its working now  thanks.. the video is just slow but thats cause of my low ram.... thanks really
[05:12] <distatica> ls
[05:12] <ArrPirate> it does a bunch of success messages and so when I quit I expect it to work... I restart, and straight to Windows 7
[05:12] <distatica> oops
[05:12] <sveakex> plasher2009: don't mention it, anything else?
[05:13] <ArrPirate> what else can I do other than what I have done?
[05:13] <whatvn> ArrPirate: give me your partition table, use sudo fdisk -l
[05:13] <iamtechno> Quick question, whats the syntax for a sym link
[05:13] <iamtechno> ?
[05:13] <jbbarnes> I have a year and a half of uptime on that server, so I didn't want to do anything to jeopardize that. ;-)
[05:13] <whatvn> iamtechno: man ln
[05:13] <RedSocrates> iamtechno: ln -s [target] [link]
[05:13] <ArrPirate> I'm in Windows 7 right now whatvn, let me reboot and I'll tell you, whatvn. Maybe 4 minutes
[05:13] <ArrPirate> brb
[05:14] <iamtechno> RedSocrates, thanks
[05:14] <RedSocrates> iamtechno: Yep
[05:14] <plasher2009> sveakex thats all I really aprecciate your help man..   is there a way to contact you again if I need some help cause I am new on linux systems.. haha
[05:15] <iamtechno> Has anyone played around with the Uningine demos yet?
[05:15] <sveakex> plasher2009: sometimes i am on this irc server under the nickname sveakex
[05:15] <sveakex> plasher2009: to check if i am online you can type /whois sveakex
[05:15] <Mooch> genii: dynamic dns
[05:15] <sveakex> plasher2009: even if i am not in this channel you can contact me by writing a message to me like this /query sveakex
[05:16] <plasher2009> sveakex  oh ok.. I will try the whois command on the future.. ok man... I got to go.. really appreciate your time..  bye man!
[05:16] <distatica> What on earth, I just installed ubuntu 8.10 desktop, I upgraded, and followed the directions here: http://www.howtoforge.com/installing-and-using-openvz-on-ubuntu-8.10
[05:16] <sveakex> plasher2009: if you have icq i can give you my number
[05:16] <distatica> and yet, I cannot find a kernel still
[05:16] <genii> Mooch: For most dialup connections, dynamic dns is the norm. You probably also want the option of "replacedefaultroute" or similar.
[05:16] <distatica> which was the issue in 9.04
[05:16] <sveakex> plasher2009: icq number that is, not phone number :p
[05:17] <Mooch> genii ok brb let me try this
[05:17] <distatica> hrm, apparently this is a known issue.
[05:17] <plasher2009> sveakex  yeah I know... haha... but I leave ICQ on the past hahaha.. dont have an account. hahah...
[05:17] <pjapjwerwe> question can i use cat for example: cat name.avi.* > myfinalmovie.avi to join avi.001 avi.002 etc. files together?
[05:17] <plasher2009> sveakex I just have the Windows Live ID...  does that works on  Linux__??
[05:18] <whatvn> pjapiwerwe: no
[05:18] <genii> pjapjwerwe: No
[05:18] <sveakex> plasher2009: msn works on linux, google for amsn, emesene, and pidgin and make your choice of what im to use
[05:18] <Kangarooo> so there is ubuntu and xubuntu and fluxbuntu and kubuntu.. is there also lubuntu? ubuntu + lxde?
[05:18] <Sagaci> what's the difference between a primary and logical partition
[05:18] <thunderbolt> Kangarooo: Not as far as I know of.
[05:19] <ArrPirate> whatvn: what command did you want me to do?
[05:19] <pjapjwerwe> what can i use to join my avi.001 files together?
[05:19] <whatvn> sudo fdisk -l , ArrPirate
[05:19] <lstarnes> Sagaci: there can be only 4 primary partions.  there may be many logical partitions with an extended partition
[05:19] <sveakex> Kangarooo: you can install ubuntu mini and then install whatever you feel like
[05:19] <plasher2009> sveakex so if I have a gmail account that on windows I use on the MSN.. where can I use it on Xubuntu?
[05:20] <ArrPirate> whatvn: http://pastebin.com/m484f07c
[05:20] <felix_> i cant run vdkbuilder2
[05:20] <sveakex> plasher2009: install pidgin, amsn, or emesene
[05:20] <RHorse> pjapjwerwe I think any vid edittor should  do it
[05:20] <sveakex> and log in
[05:20] <sveakex> Kangarooo: http://ubuntu-mini-remix.crealabs.it/
[05:20] <pjapjwerwe> k
[05:20] <pjapjwerwe> thx
[05:20] <pjapjwerwe> will look up on it
[05:20] <jbbarnes> plasher2009: pidgin or kopete
[05:20] <whatvn> pjapiwerwe: cat file1 file2 >> newfile, but I think it's not good idea
[05:20] <lstarnes> plasher2009: pidgin, amsn, and emesene have the ability to connect to msn
[05:21] <felix_> i cant run vdkbuilder2
[05:21] <Kangarooo> sveakex: yes thanks :) I also found that page in google ok.. so you do something in this page?
[05:21] <andres_> hello, can someone help me to configure the grub
[05:21] <sveakex> plasher2009: if you want to become really geeky you can try bitlbee.. but it doesn't do what i want it to
[05:21] <jbbarnes> andres: look for /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:21] <whatvn> ArrPirate: you install windows 7 after Ubuntu?
[05:21] <sveakex> Kangarooo: you download the iso file.. burn it.. install and get an empty ubuntu system
[05:21] <Soren__> what is LiLo and what does this mean? "It seems to be your first LILO installation. It is absolutely necessary to run liloconfig(8) when you complete this process and execute /sbin/lilo after this.
[05:21] <Soren__> LILO won't work if you don't do this."
[05:21] <andres_> jbbarnes, thank you... i've done that
[05:22] <ArrPirate> whatvn: Yes
[05:22] <lstarnes> Soren__: what gave you that message?
[05:22] <plasher2009> sveakex  I think Pidgin is installed  in my Xubuntu already  but I  click on the services tab.. and the only service that I think appeared was MSN
[05:22] <sveakex> Kangarooo: or forget what i said
[05:22] <whatvn> ArrPirate: so you cannot use standard solution to fix grub
[05:22] <sveakex> plasher2009: then choose msn
[05:22] <felix_> Soren__, you will destroy your system
[05:22] <plasher2009> sveakex but I have to have a hotmail account for that one?
[05:22] <ArrPirate> whatvn: What? I do it this way with windows XP all the time
[05:22] <andres_> jbbarnes, I want to add another OS that installed
[05:22] <sveakex> plasher2009: you don't.. i think
[05:23] <Soren__> lstarnes: distribution upgrade
[05:23] <eso> how do i install my creative live pro webcam?
[05:23] <plasher2009> sveakex.. let me open it and I will tell you what it says to me..  hold on
[05:23] <Soren__> feliix, huh?
[05:23] <jbbarnes> andres: you can modify the menu.lst file by hand to add other OSs. I do that a lot. Is it another linux distro that you already installed? You can modify one of the other entries to point to the correct kernel on the other partition.
[05:24] <felix_> Soren__, LILO was used before GRUB
[05:24] <theoziran> I am desperate, deleted files on my Desktop unintentionally pressing shift + del, how do I recover?
[05:24] <felix_> dont install it
[05:24] <jbbarnes> Every time I install a new distro I have to modify the menu.lst in some way to get it back to the way I want with all distros available.
[05:24] <Soren__> it already installed
[05:24] <Kangarooo> sveakex: no no wait.. I had and idea about while ago.. maybe this is it but already realised/released.. with this I can make ubuntu and choose what I need? xfce or kde or flux or something else? and the choose totem or thunar and firefox or opera?
[05:24] <lstarnes> theoziran: they might not be recoverable
[05:24] <whatvn> ArrPirate: does Grub appear when your system boots?
[05:24] <felix_> theoziran, sorry, you cant. there is no undelete in linux
[05:24] <ArrPirate> whatvn: no
[05:24] <darwinwj> Howdy all, second time in. Glad so see others on the Ub
[05:24] <ArrPirate> whatvn: it goes straight to Windows 7
[05:24] <KurtKraut> What were the boot scripts afected by the change from bash to dash that happened in Ubuntu some time ago? Only those located in /etc/init.d ?
[05:25] <lstarnes> Soren__: lilo won't be instakked unless you followed the instructions in those messages
[05:25] <sveakex> Kangarooo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[05:25] <iamtechno> Hey I have been getting this error:  ALWrapper::init(): can't load "libopenal.so.0" library libopenal.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory. But the problem is I have all of the openal packages installed. Any clue?
[05:25] <felix_> Soren__, i think next time you reboot you will have problems..
[05:25] <sveakex> Kangarooo: that is what i was thinking about before
[05:25] <lstarnes> *installed
[05:25] <theoziran> I deleted files on my Desktop unintentionally pressing shift + del, how do I recover?
[05:25] <Soren__> felix_, do not tell me that :P
[05:25] <sveakex> Kangarooo: you install all the software you want to use
[05:25] <jbbarnes> andres: If you have lots of partitions with linux distros, you can check the menu.lst on each one to get the details and then combine all of it into the active menu.list so you can boot to any of them.
[05:26] <whatvn> ArrPirate: you're using ubuntu live cd? if yes, on terminal try sudo grub
[05:26] <ArrPirate> whatvn: Ok, I'm there
[05:26] <RHorse> theoziran the solution is don't do that
[05:26] <Kangarooo> sveakex: so this is good for developer to make system for other companys full system then make iso somehow and then redistribute?
[05:26] <lstarnes> KurtKraut: all scripts using /bin/sh use dash
[05:26] <Soren__> so my system is now FUBAR? all I did was to do the updates
[05:26] <billybigrigger> how do i make a subdomain resolve?
[05:27] <lstarnes> KurtKraut: /bin/sh in ubuntu is a symlink to /bin/dash
[05:27] <whatvn> ArrPirate: you have 2 HDDs and you install one OSs on 2 HDDs?
[05:27] <billybigrigger> my webmail subdomain webmail.thefrozencanuck.ca won't resolve, and the #httpd guys told me to make it resolve and that i should ask in #yourdistrohere
[05:27] <billybigrigger> :P
[05:27] <iamtechno> Hey I have been getting this error:  ALWrapper::init(): can't load "libopenal.so.0" library libopenal.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory. But the problem is I have all of the openal packages installed. Any clue?
[05:27] <plasher2009> sveakex  its working now my gmail account on Pidgin...  hahhaha  my bad...  dont know what happen before
[05:27] <ArrPirate> whatvn: I have two hard drives, both OSes on the same hard drive
[05:27] <sveakex> Kangarooo: can you rephrase that?
[05:27] <sveakex> plasher2009: hehe ;)
[05:27] <Pixels> what has superceded firestarter?  uwd?
[05:27] <KurtKraut> lstarnes: ok, but are other scripts not placed in /etc/init.d that would enhance the boot performance provided by the change from bash to dash?
[05:27] <eross> in ubuntu/gnome, what key do i keep hitting in open arena that is throwing me into a windowed screen where I can't do anything and have to close it out?
[05:27] <lstarnes> Pixels: I don't think anything has superceded it
[05:28] <Soren__> hw do I stopit
[05:28] <whatvn> ArrPirate: sda or sdb ?
[05:28] <Soren__> it is dpoing oit now\
[05:28] <Pixels> istanrnes something has
[05:28] <Pixels> !firewtarter
[05:28] <Pixels> !firestarter
[05:28] <whatvn> ArrPirate: don't say you use sda for ubuntu and WIndows 7
[05:28] <lstarnes> Pixels: where did you hear about that?
[05:28] <ArrPirate> whatvn: sda
[05:28] <ArrPirate> whatvn: Why?
[05:28] <Soren__> it is doing it now, HOW do I stop it
[05:28] <lstarnes> Pixels: ufw is installed by default now, but it does not fully replace fiestarter
[05:28] <iamtechno> Pixels, ufw I think
[05:29] <whatvn> ArrPirate: sda has only one partition for Linux
[05:29] <ArrPirate> whatvn: So?
[05:29] <eross> Soren_  ps -ef | grep 'name', then sudo kill 'PID'
[05:29] <iamtechno> Hey I have been getting this error:  ALWrapper::init(): can't load "libopenal.so.0" library libopenal.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory. But the problem is I have all of the openal packages installed. Any clue?
[05:29] <Pixels> iamtechno: thanks
[05:29] <whatvn> ArrPirate: tell me the way you install Ubuntu is this sda?
[05:29] <Soren__> what is 'name'
[05:29] <plasher2009> sveakex  ok.. so the only way is the  whois command to find your right..?     recomend anything like notepad on Xubuntu to save this info..??  where can I learn about commands you tell me before?
[05:29] <ArrPirate> whatvn: /home and swap space is on sdb, / is on sda
[05:30] <whatvn> ArrPirate: where is /boot?
[05:30] <lstarnes> plasher2009: you could also join here and look for him in this channel
[05:30] <ArrPirate> whatvn: I've been doing it that way for a long long time
[05:30] <iamtechno> Pixels: Your welcome. I haven't personally used it but I have heard it has a low learning curve.
[05:30] <ArrPirate> whatvn: it's not on a seperate partition, so it's with /
[05:30] <lstarnes> plasher2009: /whois will only tell you if he is online (and possibly how long he has been idle)
[05:30] <Soren__> greg@greg-laptop:~$ ps -ef | grep 'name'
[05:30] <Soren__> greg     15223 14962  0 23:30 pts/2    00:00:00 grep name
[05:30] <RHorse> iamtechno find out where libopen1..l. is the link to where the prog looksfor it.
[05:30] <sveakex> plasher2009: mousepad is a simple text editor in xfce
[05:30] <whatvn> ArrPirate: ok, we will try
[05:31] <sveakex> plasher2009: you type /whois sveakex
[05:31] <Soren__> sigh
[05:31] <sveakex> plasher2009: to check if i am online and to get information about me
[05:31] <plasher2009> lstarnes  thanks...
[05:31] <lstarnes> plasher2009: also, /help
[05:31] <Soren__> 38min left in installing the upgrades
[05:31] <darwinwj> Say, anyone out there having the same trouble as I am trying to get adobe's flash player 10 installed?
[05:31] <plasher2009> sveakes..  ok man.. thanks  and goodbye  really got to go.. I am learning more about  linux OS hehe
[05:31] <whatvn> ArrPirate: try mount /dev/sda5
[05:31] <sveakex> plasher2009: to write to me
[05:31] <sveakex> plasher2009: you do /query sveakex
[05:32] <ArrPirate> when in sudo grub 'find /boot/grub/stage1' it returns '(hd0,4)', but when I do the root and setup of hd0,4 it looks like it's working but when I quit grub and reboot I find myself back in Windows 7
[05:32] <sveakex> plasher2009: and then you have a chat window with me
[05:32] <Kangarooo> sveakex: so I had a plan later to find fastest way to make system for company with their needs- their programms. so maybe I have find now.. with this I can install this mini take steps from http://ubuntu-mini-remix.crealabs.it/ and After downloading Ubuntu Mini Remix i can use Ubuntu Customization Kit,  Reconstructor or any other tool to remaster the ISO and add the software/configurations any company wants, building their own Ubuntu based livecd.? But 
[05:32] <Soren__> felix_?
[05:32] <lstarnes> darwinwj: which version of ubuntu are you using?
[05:32] <ArrPirate> whatvn: http://pastebin.com/m484f07c
[05:32] <darwinwj> 8.04 hardy
[05:32] <ArrPirate> whatvn: sorry
[05:32] <ArrPirate> whatvn: clipboard fail
[05:32] <sveakex> Kangarooo: it looks like you found the right tool
[05:32] <iamtechno> RHorse, I am trying out the Unigine Demos and I had them working a while ago and now they don't work. I have already sym linked all of the libopenal.so.0 to libopenal.so.1 and it still doesn't work.
[05:32] <plasher2009> sveakex.. thanks man..  got to go...  have great weekend... bye
[05:32] <ArrPirate> whatvn: mount: can't find /dev/sda5 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[05:33] <sveakex> plasher2009: you're welcome, good bye
[05:33] <lstarnes> darwinwj: I'm not sure how to get flash 10 in hardy.  I think flashplugin-nonfree in ubuntu 9.04 and 8.10 is flash 10
[05:33] <Soren__> !pastebin
[05:33] <whatvn> ArrPirate: sudo mkdir /mnt/arrpirate && mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda5 /mnt/arrpirate
[05:34] <darwinwj> So, the hardy won't go up to the 10. I need to update to at least 8.10?
[05:34] <iamtechno> darwinwj, Both 8.10 and 9.04 use Flash 10 in -nonfree
[05:34] <ArrPirate> whatvn: Why on earth would I try to mount sda5 as ntfs? sda5 is an ext4 partition
[05:34] <bc> darwinwj: beware, your cpu might catch fire and asplodez with Flash 10.
[05:35] <RHorse> iamtechno it's not seeing it. Find out why.
[05:35] <Soren__> I can't copy the text of what it is doing, it says Ctrl C will stop it and do bad things................
[05:35] <whatvn> ArrPirate:sorry, I fogot :-)
[05:35] <ArrPirate> whatvn: I can mount that partition just fine using nautilus
[05:35] <darwinwj> I'm pretty hard headed. I'm been beating it against the monitor trying. That must be why.
[05:35] <iamtechno> darwinwj, Yes you must have at least 8.10 to use Flash 10 from the repos.
[05:35] <RHorse> iamtechno check your permissions
[05:35] <Shadowpillar> does the nvidia binary blob support the 9800 GT?
[05:35] <sveakex> Kangarooo: how many computers do they have? 50? :p
[05:35] <Soren__> anyone?
[05:35] <iamtechno> RHorse, Where do I find Unigine's search path at?
[05:36] <darwinwj> Lol, got two cpu's :-D
[05:36] <darwinwj> I'll try updating now, thanks guys
[05:36] <whatvn> ArrPirate: but, as I see your partition table, boot sector is in 2 ntfs partition. so if I know exactly, you cannot install grub
[05:36] <RHorse> iamtechno try whereis ...
[05:36] <``y7> does ubuntu always installed the correct drivers when you install the OS? is there some sort of graphics benchmark test for ubuntu? running one of the screensavers that comes with ubuntu seems to lag my system.
[05:36] <Kangarooo> sveakex: not me.. I want to advertise to companys come with theyr requirements and then theyr system to be developed at ubuntu loco team
[05:36] <ArrPirate> whatvn: what can I do?
[05:36] <whatvn> ArrPirate: if you install grub, it will be useless
[05:37] <brEz> Hello, my /etc/network/interfaces is blank - I can still get on the net fine, is there supposed to be something generic in there?
[05:37] <Kangarooo> sveakex: maybe there is already and iso witch guides installation with choosing xfce flux or kde or gdm and then witch mail agent.. and internet browser.. with pictures.. ?
[05:37] <ArrPirate> whatvn: Ok, how can I fix this?
[05:37] <lstarnes> brEz: networkmanager must be taking care of the network then
[05:37] <brEz> oh
[05:37] <voss> y7, does any OS  "always" install the correct drivers?=
[05:38] <whatvn> ArrPirate: I'm looking somewhere
[05:38] <brEz> lstarnes: so if I want to add an IP automatically on start up of the mcahine, what can I do?
[05:38] <iamtechno> RHorse, tried that. It gave me /usr/lib and /usr/lib64 and both copies of libopenal.so.0 are sym linked to so.1
[05:38] <Alacard> .
[05:38] <``y7> voss: i have no idea, i haven't tried every OS. assuming ubuntu doesn't from the way you responded. how would i go about checking my current drivers and updating them if necessary?
[05:39] <RHorse> iamtechno didn't itt say could not find *.0?
[05:39] <sveakex> Kangarooo: xubuntu installs xfce and firefox by default, maybe thunderbird, if not you can make a bash script which installs/removes software you want/don't want
[05:39] <lstarnes> brEz: you could still edit those files manually.  Also, try System > Administration > Network
[05:39] <iamtechno> RHorse, yes. All I have on my sys is *.1 so I symlinked .0 to .1 so it might help.
[05:39] <voss> y7, for the most part ubuntu will do just fine, try the live cd and see for yourself
[05:40] <RHorse> whereis the .0 file?
[05:40] <Alacard> y7, listen to voss
[05:40]  * bc notices what a piece of crap kompozer/nvu is
[05:40] <iamtechno> RHorse, in /usr/lib with the .1 file
[05:40] <Soren__> I am doing an Upgrade/Update.................and I got that LiLo message during the "Distribution Upgrade - Running Partial Upgrade - Installing the Upgrades................when I press Ctrl C to copy the text to the paste bin, I see this: "Ctrlc pressed: This will abort the operation and may leave the system in a broken state. Are you sure you want to do that? [Y/N]"
[05:41] <voss> if livecd doesnt work at least youll know without committing any changes
[05:41] <RHorse> iamtechno rename .1 somethin else.
[05:41] <peepsalot> how can I make firefox 3.5 my default browser?   I already have it installed but when I open links from other programs it loads firefox 3
[05:41] <Flannel> Soren__: ctrl-c doesn't copy in the terminal.  Push N, because you don't want to stop.
[05:41] <IdleOne> having issues playing a .mp4 file VLC, Movie Player and Mplayer all crash after opening. any help?
[05:41] <iamtechno> RHorse, I'm going to pastebin a copy of the log.html
[05:41] <``y7> i have no idea what the livedcd is. is it typical for the screensavers to lag a computer?
[05:42] <Soren__> Flannel: ok, but people said that the LiLO thing was very bad
[05:42] <voss> bc, unfortunately ubuntu doesnt yet have a worthy wysiwyg web page creator,
[05:42] <ozzmosis> IdleOne: does it play on anything?
[05:42] <iamtechno> RHorse, http://pastebin.com/daf65ba4
[05:42] <user__> is nautilus actions working with ubuntu 9.04
[05:42] <NvidiaUser> I need to move the grub bootloader to another partition but I need to figure out which one I can move it to. Can anyone help?
[05:42] <IdleOne> ozzmosis, it plays in windows yes
[05:42] <Alacard> y7, you download the ISO (http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download) then burn it to a disk then reboot your computer with the disk in
[05:43] <ozzmosis> IdleOne: using what?
[05:43] <voss> y7 what os are you running?
[05:43] <whatvn> ArrPirate: I can give you solution, but not exactly I will solve or pull your Windows 7 away :d
[05:43] <IdleOne> ozzmosis, Quicktime but very lagged
[05:43] <``y7> voss: ubuntu
[05:43] <bc> voss: it's a nightmare when you're just modifying a cheap site with fubar code from FrontPage and gvim is making my eyes bleed looking at the mess before me.
[05:43] <``y7> Alacard: thank you
[05:43] <Alacard> np
[05:43] <Kangarooo> sveakex: yes but.. one iso with choosing that all.. step 1. xfce/kde/gdm/xlfe/jaiodjf/pingpong step2. firefox/opera strep3. thunderbird/mailagent2 step4.thunar/nautilus 5. music yes/no if yes .......    and all choosings have pirctures... is there already something like that? 1 iso?
[05:43] <ozzmosis> IdleOne: hmm, ok.  mplayer's played every mp4 file I've thrown at it, so I'm not sure what's going on there.
[05:43] <voss> y7, turn off the desktop effects
[05:43] <ArrPirate> whatvn: No worries, I'm to the point that if the next thing I try doesn't work I'm going to wipe the Windows 7 partition because it's not worth the trouble
[05:43] <``y7> Alacard: and it's effectively an OS on a disc i guess?
[05:43] <iamtechno> RHorse, I have also notice that it complains about not having VBO support, which a couple of other programs have complained about.
[05:44] <``y7> voss: where do i go to do that?
[05:44] <voss> y7, are you using ubuntu right now?
[05:44] <Soren__> flannel, here is the message "It seems to be your first LILO installation. It is absolutely necessary to run liloconfig(8) when you complete this process and execute /sbin/lilo after this.
[05:44] <whatvn> ArrPirate: so try sudo grub-install sda
[05:44] <IdleOne> ozzmosis, can the fact that the file is being read from a cd make a diffrence?
[05:44] <``y7> voss, not on the machine i'm connecting to this network with, no
[05:44] <user__> please help me install nautilus actions
[05:44] <Flannel> Soren__: Why are you using lilo?
[05:44] <Alacard> Essentially, yes, without going too technical, go here to learn what a LiveCD is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_CD
[05:44] <iamtechno> RHorse, but I have a Radeon HD 4870 with the latest fglrx drivers (9.5)
[05:44] <``y7> voss: but i have ubuntu up right next to this machine, so yes
[05:44] <whatvn> ArrPirate: so try sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[05:45] <ozzmosis> IdleOne: it could cause quicktime to be laggy, but not the mplayer (etc) crashes
[05:45] <voss> y7, then what os is causing screensaver issues?
[05:45] <Soren__> flannel, I did not do it as a choice, I am Updateing/Upgrading
[05:45] <Flannel> Soren__: is this some sort of esoteric install? or a regular install on a regular computer?
[05:45] <ArrPirate> whatvn: Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[05:45] <``y7> voss: the ubuntu os is causing issues. the screensavers on there will skip. i'm guessing it's using lots of CPU or GPU to run them. my goal was to make them run without using lots of resources
[05:45] <Soren__> I am new, a Dual boot install
[05:45] <ozzmosis> voss: one could argue that the web isn't supposed to be wysiwyg ... and that's what pdfs are for :)
[05:46] <whatvn> ArrPirate: did you mount /dev/sda5?
[05:46] <voss> y7, how much memory on the ubuntu system?
[05:46] <Flannel> Soren__: How did you install?  You're using internal harddrives right?
[05:46] <sveakex> Kangarooo: well.. you can't have a cd with all those choices by default during installtion, just have the same system installed on all company computers
[05:46] <Soren__> XP installed 1st............XP is flakey...............then Ubuntu installed
[05:46] <voss> ozz, nvu is the web tool of 1998
[05:46] <Flannel> Soren__: right, using the CD?  What version of Ubuntu?
[05:46] <Soren__> Flannel: yes, one HDD in a laptop
[05:46] <setz> anyone here used slim?
[05:46] <``y7> voss: pretty sure only 1GB
[05:47] <setz> its set as my default display manager, but its not loading up
[05:47] <Soren__> I used Ubuntu 8.1 licecd
[05:47] <user__> can any one tel me what does that mean Can't parse file '/home/user/Desktop/Actions/Generate Checksums/nautilus_generate_checksums.schemas' as GConf schema description file!
[05:47] <user__> This XML file is not a valid Nautilus-actions config file (missing keys: )
[05:47] <setz> and ive got to log in and run it through sudo
[05:47] <voss> y7, what video card?
[05:47] <Soren__> then ungraded to jaunty
[05:47] <ArrPirate> whatvn: yes
[05:47] <``y7> voss: asus ax850xt platinum
[05:47] <Flannel> Soren__: Ok.  The LiveCD isn't even capable of installing lilo.  This... is extremely odd.  Why don't you just install 9.04?
[05:47] <ozzmosis> user__: it means the file is corrupted
[05:47] <Soren__> felix_, can you tell him what I did during the install
[05:47] <user__> ozzmosis, but i redlownloaded it and same happen
[05:48] <whatvn> ArrPirate: give me on minute to think about it
[05:48] <Soren__> Flannel: that is what the upgrade was for I think
[05:48] <IdleOne> ozzmosis, do you know of any bugs concerning video files in 9.04?
[05:48] <Zephryos> Got a problem! Trying to run Ubuntu from USB I'm having an APIC/APCI issue, how do I modify it? I don't see it when I pull it up.
[05:48] <Flannel> Soren__: Right, but why not just install 9.04 instead of installing 8.10 and then upgrading?
[05:48] <user__> ozzmosis, can you install nautilus actions on 9.04
[05:48] <ozzmosis> IdleOne: I'm sure there are lots.  video is very complex.  but I don't know of any specifically.
[05:48] <bc> voss: you should see what OpenOffice does to the page. heh
[05:48] <Soren__> flannel, I had no idea that 9 was on alivecd
[05:49] <lanoxx-> some how all my notes on the stickynotes applet in gnome just got all deletet,
[05:49] <Flannel> Soren__: Ah, alright.  Lets go ahead and do that then.  http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso
[05:49] <lanoxx-> where does the sticky notes applet store its data?
[05:49] <voss> bc openoffice is a good word processor but its not for web publishing or even really desktop publishing
[05:49] <lanoxx-> this is extremely annoying because i had a lot of notes saved there
[05:49] <scunizi> Is there any way to get the netbook remix desktop on 8.04?
[05:49] <bc> voss: indeed!
[05:50] <ozzmosis> user__: hmm, I use nautilus and I don't have that file.  maybe you don't need it.
[05:50] <Soren__> Flannel: may I kill the upgrade that is runnning somehow?
[05:50] <bc> ah, maybe in time.
[05:50] <Flannel> Soren__: yeah, ctrl-c ;)
[05:50] <Alacard> scrunizi, I know there is, one second, ok?
[05:50] <voss> bc, I would hope the openoffice team would work on a desktop/web publishing component
[05:50] <whatvn> ArrPirate: try sudo mkdir /boot
[05:50] <Soren__> Flannel: didn't you say "crossing the streams was bad"?lol
[05:50] <scunizi> Alacard: ok
[05:51] <voss> you can do decent web publishing if the desktop publishing can export to html/xml
[05:51] <Soren__> ^^^ghost buster reference, if you are too young
[05:51] <ArrPirate> whatvn: mkdir: cannot create directory `/boot': File exists
[05:51] <Flannel> Soren__: It would be if you wanted the upgrade/etc to go well.  Right now, we need to just download/burn a CD and then install Jaunty
[05:51] <Soren__> ok................
[05:51] <Soren__> here I go...............Ctrl C then yes
[05:52] <voss> While microsoft office is bloated, publisher is a very good program with very little competition
[05:52] <ozzmosis> IdleOne: there's a program called MediaInfo .. might tell you a bit about the MP4 file you're trying to play.  every MP4 I've downloaded from YouTube (using youtube-dl) has played fine in mplayer.
[05:52] <whatvn> ArrPirate: sudo grub-install /dev/sda again
[05:52] <Alacard> Scrunizi: http://wiki.eeeuser.com/ubuntu_netbook_remix There was also a fork between the guys who make UNR & Easy Peasy (I think) but before that, it was all 8.04 UNR (which I am running right now) so I know that there are at least two methods to accomplish your goal
[05:52] <IdleOne> ozzmosis, I tried mplayer file.mp4 I now hear sound but no video
[05:52] <Alacard> It was called UbuntuEEE I think
[05:52] <Kangarooo> sveakex: yes of course. but a new iso could be made.. main things to be put in it.. and pictures guide what system user wants.. or even only mini and then goes choosing of system..
[05:52] <scunizi> Alacard: thanks..
[05:52] <ArrPirate> whatvn: Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[05:53] <Soren__> Flannel: package libblkid1 is already installed and configured
[05:53] <ozzmosis> IdleOne: I guess it's using an unsupported video codec.
[05:53] <sveakex> Kangarooo: well good luck with that :P
[05:53] <Flannel> Soren__: You just need to download the ISO, burn it, and boot (and install) with it.
[05:53] <aliciapg> does anyone know anything about zoneminder?
[05:53] <Alacard> np
[05:54] <ozzmosis> IdleOne: I assume you can play other videos fine
[05:54] <ArrPirate> whatvn: I'm going to try the EasyBCD method, brb
[05:54] <voss> kompozer, was fine for netscape 4, but firefox needs its own modern compozer
[05:54] <Soren__> seems like I'd need to kill each and every upgrade it is making, if I wanted to stop the upgrade
[05:54] <IdleOne> ozzmosis, H.264 / AVC is what is in properties
[05:54] <Soren__> Flannel: ok, I am at 4%
[05:54] <Flannel> Soren__: You shouldn't.
[05:54] <Soren__> Flannel: what program should I use to burn the disk
[05:54] <IdleOne> ozzmosis, no same issue with .avi
[05:55] <Flannel> Soren__: just right click it and hit "burn to disk"
[05:55] <Soren__> k
[05:55] <ozzmosis> IdleOne: oh, really?  well, that's more likely to be a problem with the xorg driver you're using.
[05:55] <whatvn> ArrPirate: your ntfs partition has MBR, so whenever system boots, it will look in that ntfs partition, but sorry, I don't think I can help you re-intall grub and make it working. another way you can using boot.in of windows 7 to boot into linux. But I really dont have experience on this. so sorry, bro!
[05:55] <Soren__> Flannel: will 9 install right over 8 or will I need to redo the whole partition thing
[05:56] <IdleOne> ozzmosis, default 9.04 install nothing added or changed
[05:56] <pizzledizzle> is this possible: i have one computer running x with mplayer on. i want to ssh into that computer and change the file that mplayer is playing
[05:57] <ozzmosis> IdleOne: re-ask your question "I can't play any videos at all under Ubuntu" and you'll get better help than from me :-)
[05:57] <Flannel> Soren__: It'll install overtop, you'll only have to do a minimal amount of partitioning (just repartitioning the same partitions, basically)
[05:57] <IdleOne> ozzmosis, thanks for trying
[05:57] <Kangarooo> pizzledizzle: maybe use synergy if you are next to that computer or.. remote desktop ?
[05:58] <Soren__> Flannel: are you gonna be here?
[05:58] <Soren__> Flannel: I am only at 9%
[05:58] <Flannel> Soren__: Perhaps.  But if I'm not, there's plenty of capable people here.
[05:58] <andres_> hi guys, can someone help me to configure /boot/grub/menu.lst??? I installed suse but didn't put a grub on it... so I can't access to it
[05:58] <Soren__> k
[05:58] <cfedde> pizzledizzle: yes.  besure the DISPLAY variable is set right and that x permissions are set.
[05:58] <andres_> from the grub of ubuntu
[05:59] <Soren__> switching from person to person gets confusing
[05:59] <harpreet_> can't play DVD
[05:59] <harpreet_> Help please....can't play DVD
[05:59] <Tully04> Anyone here installed virtual box in ubuntu 9.4 ?
[05:59] <ozzmosis> Tully04: I did
[05:59] <friendishan> harpreet
[05:59] <harpreet_> Tully04: yes
[06:00] <friendishan> harpreet u need to install the ubuntu restricted extras
[06:00] <Tully04> Downloaded the .deb file from the main website, however it needs some dependency problems
[06:00] <Tully04> Do i need to download those files?
[06:00] <ozzmosis> Tully04: I just used sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose
[06:00] <friendishan> harpreet  install total totem every thing
[06:01] <harpreet_> friendishan: command?
[06:01] <Tully04> tried the sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose and still asking for dependencys
[06:01] <whatvn> harpreet_: sudo aptitude check totem
[06:01] <friendishan> harpreet go to system->administration->synpatic package manager
[06:02] <iamtechno> Has anyone had trouble with apps nagging about Vertex_Buffer_Object support? If so how did you fix it?
[06:02] <ozzmosis> Tully04: apt-get should automatically install the dependencies
[06:02] <ozzmosis> Tully04: you may want to show us the output of apt-get  (use pastebin)
[06:02] <friendishan> harpreet then search for totem
[06:03] <friendishan> harpreet then select everything which is totem-
[06:03] <Tully04> tully@tully-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose
[06:03] <Tully04> Reading package lists... Done
[06:03] <Tully04> Building dependency tree
[06:03] <Tully04> Reading state information... Done
[06:03] <Tully04> You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
[06:03] <Tully04> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[06:03] <FloodBot3> Tully04: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:03] <``y7> where'd the voss go?
[06:04] <friendishan> harpreet_  go to system->administration->synpatic package manager
[06:04] <cfedde> harpreet_: apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[06:04] <friendishan> harpreet_ then search for totem
[06:04] <Tully04> tully@tully-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose
[06:04] <Tully04> Reading package lists... Done
[06:04] <Tully04> Building dependency tree
[06:04] <Tully04> Reading state information... Done
[06:04] <Tully04> You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
[06:04] <FloodBot3> Tully04: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:04] <Tully04> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[06:04] <friendishan> harpreet_ then select everything which is totem-
[06:05] <Wind0wz> gah, i botched a dual boot... now i have a 2.3GB installation of ubuntu...
[06:05] <Wind0wz> im installing again, at the 'prepare disk space' screen... so i can install the new ubuntu with the right space now if i want
[06:05] <bullgard4> Synaptic: "The DEB program package 'consolekit' provides the system daemon and tools to interact with." What is a 'system daemon' in contrast to a common 'daemon'?
[06:05] <scunizi> Alacard: ok got it installed and am using it.. however how do I switch back to the original desktop? there's no menu option for Admin
[06:05] <friendishan> !dancing
[06:05] <Wind0wz> my question is, can i somehow delete the 'useless' install of ubuntu using the 'specify partitins manually'?
[06:06] <losher> !medibuntu
[06:06] <friendishan> !eeepc
[06:06] <Flannel> Wind0wz: Um, I'm not sure what you mean, but yes, just erase/nuke/whatever those partitions somehow while reinstalling.
[06:06] <Wind0wz> Flannel, i know i can somehow... i guess im looking for someone to guide me... lol
[06:06] <tanjir> !aspireone
[06:06] <tanjir> !acer
[06:07] <friendishan> !edubuntu
[06:07] <Flannel> Wind0wz: Just do manual partitions, and then you'll get to the partitioning screen, delete the partitions you don't want (you'll now have lots of freespace), and then recreate the partitions you do want.
[06:07] <Wind0wz> Flannel, i could just click 'format' but i don't know how to set up the install 'flags' and /usr /etc using the advanced
[06:07] <harpreet_> friendishan: works, thankyou
[06:07] <friendishan> harpreet_ no problem^^
[06:07] <Wind0wz> Flannel, do you have experience with this?  would you be willing to help me?
[06:07] <Flannel> Wind0wz: You'll see how to do that during the partitioning.  You'll create partitions, and there'll be spots for you to specif ytheir mountpoints (like /home)
[06:08] <Wind0wz> Flannel, im just not sure which ones i need to create
[06:08] <Flannel> Wind0wz: It's really straight forward, you're worried, I understand, but it's nothing to be concerned about.
[06:08] <Flannel> Wind0wz: you need to create / (thats where everything that isn't specified goes) and then may want to create a swap.  /home is another popular one (for all your personal stuff)
[06:08] <Flannel> Wind0wz: and really, that's it.  two partitions minimum (/ and swap) and then maybe home.
[06:09] <jbbarnes> Has anyone done an apt-get dist-upgrade from Ubuntu server 7.10 to 8.04 LTS? Just wondering if it went smoothly.
[06:09] <jceggbert5> what the heck is with #ubuntu-proxy-users it grabbed me but i don't have proxy?!?!?!?!?
[06:09] <Wind0wz> Flannel, i currently have windows hogging everything tho, so i need to partion it.. im trying.. i'll see how far i get befre getting nervous
[06:09] <ozzmosis> jbbarnes: I'm sure lots have, and it did...
[06:10] <Tully04> Guys every time i go sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose i get this error
[06:10] <Tully04>  just not sure which ones i need to create
[06:10] <Tully04> http://paste.ubuntu.com/177677/
[06:10] <jbbarnes> ozzmosis: Great. Thanks. Since 7.10 has already reached EOL, will I have to change my sources.list file first or will it dist-upgrade using the current repositories?
[06:10] <shweller> hi
[06:10] <jeffjpeterson> is there a way to move the buttons from the top right corner of a window to the top left?
[06:10] <Wind0wz> Flannel, hmm, no.. im just going to use the easy one...  i'll erase the other one later... lol..  i wasn't paying attention when i installed windows, and forgot to make all the partions i wanted
[06:11] <jceggbert5> now a real ubuntu-related question:  I am trying to use Emerald Window Manager, but i can't figure out how to change managers... :( T___T
[06:11] <Flannel> !emerald | jceggbert5
[06:11] <mobi-sheep> !emerald | jceggbert5
[06:11] <ozzmosis> jbbarnes: don't know.  something tells me it won't overwrite sources.list because that'd get rid of any custom additions you made to it.
[06:11] <jceggbert5> !emerald
[06:11] <jceggbert5> ...
[06:11] <jceggbert5> in terminal?
[06:12] <friendishan> !singing
[06:12] <Tully04> jce - yes
[06:12] <c_nick> i ignored someone by mistake how to unignore him
[06:12] <Flannel> friendishan: Please don't abuse the bot.
[06:12] <mobi-sheep> jceggbert5: No.  That was the command for the bot to display information regarding emerald.
[06:12] <ozzmosis> jbbarnes: or maybe it merges the custom changes into the new source.list. :)
[06:12] <friendishan> flannel ok
[06:12] <jceggbert5> it didn't do anything
[06:12] <IdleOne> ozzmosis, Real Player for Linux tell me I need video/X-HX-AVC1. how do I get that?
[06:12] <jceggbert5> c_nick: /unignore *username*
[06:12] <jbbarnes> ozzmosis: Thanks for jumping in with advice.
[06:13] <jceggbert5> !emerald
[06:13] <friendishan> !compiz
[06:13] <jceggbert5> how do i enable emerald tho?
[06:13] <ozzmosis> jbbarnes: I've never done a dist-upgrade so am not very useful, sorry :)
[06:13] <c_nick> ok thanks jceggbert5
[06:13] <CiPHER_> Anyone have any ideas why my sound stopped working once I installed AWN?
[06:14] <jceggbert5> :) NP
[06:14] <mobi-sheep> jceggbert5: Did you install emerald?
[06:14] <CiPHER_> And can someone help me fix it?
[06:14] <jceggbert5> yeah
[06:14] <ozzmosis> IdleOne: I don't know.  I doubt you really need realplayer for it.  where's the file from?
[06:14] <IdleOne> ozzmosis, it's from torrent
[06:14] <mobi-sheep> jceggbert5: System --> Preferences --> Emerald Theme Manager
[06:14] <jceggbert5> i did 'sudo apt-get install emerald' on jaunty jackalopt (9.04)
[06:14] <friendishan> bye
[06:14] <jceggbert5> i need to switch from gnome to emerald tho...
[06:15] <ozzmosis> IdleOne: ah, ok.  but if you can't play .avi files from torrents, there's a bigger problem, most likely the video driver you're using doesn't support video overlay, or something like that.
[06:15] <mobi-sheep> jceggbert5: ALT+F2 --> compiz --replace -c emerald
[06:15] <IdleOne> ozzmosis, ok well then how do I figure out which driver I should be using and how do I change it
[06:16] <ozzmosis> IdleOne: xorg configuration.  someone else here can help you with that. :)
[06:16] <jceggbert5> nothin
[06:16] <jceggbert5> my screen blanked out for 2 seconds and came back the same
[06:17] <jceggbert5> now what? (enable it in compiz?)
[06:17] <IdleOne> I can't seem to play any video files with 9.04 can someone help me out please?
[06:17] <crdlb> mobi-sheep: that hasn't wroked for a long time
[06:17] <CiPHER_> Anyone have any idea why my sound stopped working once I installed Avant on Jaunty?
[06:17] <mobi-sheep> crdlb: I don't know as I don't use emerald myself.
[06:17] <jakupl> IdleOne: have you installed ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[06:17] <IdleOne> jakupl, yes
[06:18] <Soren_> BAH, it turned off my wifi and wanted a reboot, but it gave me a crash report
[06:18] <mobi-sheep> jceggbert5: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1140133
[06:18] <crdlb> jceggbert5: the best place to put it is Window Decoration > Command in ccsm (put 'emerald' without the quotes)
[06:19] <Soren_> how do I restart my DL of 9 from where it left off?
[06:19] <mobi-sheep> Soren_: What are you using?
[06:19] <overrider> A Ubuntu Startup Disk does not use Grub for booting, what is it called? sylinux? selinux? i cant remember the name
[06:19] <Soren_> using? I have the basic 8
[06:20] <tonyyarusso> overrider: syslinux should be it.
[06:20] <overrider> tonyyarusso: yes you got it, Thanks
[06:20] <tonyyarusso> overrider: (selinux is a security thing)
[06:20] <mobi-sheep> Soren_: Basic 8?  You're talking about Ubuntu Intrepid?  You can upgrade to 9.04 instead of downloading a new ISO.
[06:21] <mobi-sheep> !upgrade | Soren_
[06:21] <Soren_> mobi-sheep: my upgrade was doign bad things LiLo
[06:21] <jceggbert5> now what?
[06:21] <Soren_> ask Flannel and felix_
[06:22] <mobi-sheep> Soren_: Download ISO from Ubuntu website --> "wget -c http://www.ubuntu.com/the-iso-path.iso"
[06:22] <Soren_> justnow it turned off my wifi and wanted a reboot, but it gave me a crash report
[06:22] <jceggbert5> is this what it should look like? http://up.mibbit.com/up/CaAbEtFc.png
[06:22] <felix_> Soren_, what you did? i told you... you destroyed your system
[06:22] <felix_> xD
[06:23] <Soren_> I had 10% of the DLdone, is there a way to resume my 9 DL
[06:23] <codename> Does the Razer mouse work in Ubuntu?
[06:23] <bullgard4> Synaptic: "The DEB program package 'consolekit' provides the system daemon and tools to interact with." What is a 'system daemon' in contrast to a common 'daemon'?
[06:23] <Soren_> felix, I only folllowed instructions :P
[06:23] <felix_> Soren what instructions?
[06:23] <Soren_> I got thelistof updates
[06:23] <RedSocrates> bullgard4: I believe by "the system daemon" it simply means the consolekit daemon.
[06:23] <Soren_> and upgrade
[06:24] <Soren_> remember?
[06:24] <felix_> yes
[06:24] <RedSocrates> bullgard4: It's another daemon like any other daemon
[06:24] <Soren_> and then,................KA.............BOOM
[06:24] <dsasad> @elky
[06:24] <bullgard4> RedSocrates: hm.
[06:24] <felix_> Soren_, define KABOOM
[06:24] <ozzmosis> bullgard4: whoever wrote that description was being a bit loose with the English language
[06:24] <codename> Does the Razer mouse work in Ubuntu?
[06:24] <RedSocrates> bullgard4: Not entirely sure about that, but that's what I'd think
[06:24] <Soren_> all of the above, LiLo, turingin off my wifi, wanting a restRT
[06:25] <Soren_> CRAsh report
[06:25] <bullgard4> RedSocrates: Ok. Thank you for commenting.
[06:25] <felix_> xD
[06:25] <Soren_> error occured..........
[06:25] <ozzmosis> bullgard4: of course not all daemons have to be run as root ("system daemon") .. but I don't think that's what they meant.
[06:25] <RedSocrates> bullgard4: No prob.  There's definitely a console-kit daemon, which is the basis for my suggestion
[06:25] <felix_> Soren_, "sudo apt-get install grub kgrubeditor"
[06:26] <bullgard4> ozzmosis: And how would you express this statement in more precise English?
[06:26] <bullgard4> ozzmosis: Ah, I see. Thank you for explaining.
[06:26] <Soren_> felix_ and then?
[06:27] <ozzmosis> bullgard4: I'd cheat and read /usr/ports/consolekit/pkg-descr in FreeBSD.
[06:27] <Soren_> !pastebin
[06:27] <felix_> Soren_, "sudo kgrubeditor" explore a bit without touching anything. make sure you have dual boot options
[06:27] <jceggbert5> is this what it should look like? http://up.mibbit.com/up/CaAbEtFc.png
[06:28] <RedSocrates> bullgard4: This seems relevant as well: http://people.freedesktop.org/~mccann/doc/ConsoleKit/ConsoleKit.html#id2574623
[06:28] <Soren_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/177685/
[06:29] <Soren_> felix_ this touchpad is so sensitive, that exploring is dangeous
[06:29] <ozzmosis> bullgard4: I haven't been following closely so I don't know what your original question was.
[06:29] <jceggbert5> u want to make pad less sensitive?
[06:29] <zenxr> wow, that's so messed up.
[06:29] <bullgard4> RedSocrates: Ah! Thank you for providing me this interesting link. I am reading it...
[06:29] <zenxr> There's more people in here than in the ##linux channel
[06:30] <Soren_> felix_ greg@greg-laptop:~$ sudo kgrubeditor
[06:30] <Soren_> sudo: kgrubeditor: command not found
[06:30] <Soren_> greg@greg-laptop:~$ 123nikitachelsea123
[06:30] <Soren_> bash: 123nikitachelsea123: command not found
[06:30] <felix_> Soren_, did you changed any repo? check software origins. make sure all is ticked
[06:30] <FloodBot3> Soren_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:30] <ozzmosis> bullgard4: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/ConsoleKit may be useful though
[06:30] <Soren_> that was a flood?
[06:30] <ozzmosis> Soren_: I think you just sent us all your password
[06:30] <jceggbert5> soren_ , do you want to make the pad less sensitive?
[06:31] <felix_> treat him well, he is new :)
[06:31] <Soren_> howdo Ichange it now
[06:31] <zenxr> This is entertaining
[06:31] <felix_> Soren_, are all repos enabled in software origins?
[06:31] <jceggbert5> how do i change window managers in general without compiz's help?
[06:31] <Soren_> not
[06:32] <ozzmosis> Soren_: run "passwd" from the shell
[06:32] <Soren_> felix_, IDK what you are asking
[06:32] <zenxr> jcegg: which window manager?
[06:32] <jceggbert5> ... emerald
[06:32] <felix_> Soren_, open system, admin, software origins. make sure al repos are enabled
[06:32] <tank-man> i'll change your passwrd for you :)
[06:32] <zenxr> jcegg: i had to ask 'cause you can still use metacity in compiz
[06:33] <zenxr> find the emerald manager
[06:33] <zenxr> hold on i'll find a link
[06:33] <overrider> I boot via a USB Startup Disk i just created. I reserved 1GB for Documents. How can i make it so that Files and Settings are preserved across reboots? Or cannot?
[06:33] <Soren_> what are repos
[06:33] <jceggbert5> downloaded and installed already (sudo apt-get install emerald)
[06:33] <felix_> Soren_, repositoryes
[06:33] <jceggbert5> the usb boot drives are AWESOME
[06:33] <ozzmosis> tank-man: actually I suppose he's safe, if his login password is different to his sudo password ......
[06:34] <ozzmosis> tank-man: safe-ish?  maybe not safe :)
[06:34] <tank-man> I dont think sshd is on by default
[06:34] <ozzmosis> true
[06:34] <jceggbert5> overrider , they are automatic
[06:34] <ozzmosis> now I can see why
[06:34] <Soren_> I do not see the word repositories anywhere
[06:34] <doc_brown> what is emerald?
[06:35] <jceggbert5> cool (outdated?!?!?!?) window manager
[06:35] <doc_brown> !emerald
[06:35] <overrider> jceggbert5: So it is not possible to somehow install custom programs which are still there after a reboot?
[06:35] <Xcell> jceggbert5-  you could also install compiz icon... right clicking the icon gives you options on both compiz and windows manager + a whole lot more.
[06:35] <Soren_> Ubuntu Software.......all but source code are checked
[06:35] <friendishan> !web desighning
[06:35] <jceggbert5> are you 'booting persistently' ?
[06:35] <friendishan> !query string
[06:35] <friendishan> ok
[06:35] <overrider> jceggbert5: how to figure that out?
[06:35] <Soren_> 3rd party software 2 achive jaunties are checked
[06:36] <friendishan> Which is th correct channel to ask about Web desighning
[06:36] <jceggbert5> when you boot to the drive it gives you a menu
[06:36] <jceggbert5> what do you select?
[06:36] <friendishan> Which is th correct channel to ask about Web designing ?
[06:36] <rungss> anyone can tell me how to clear history for meld??
[06:36] <Soren_> felix_? is that what you mean
[06:36] <overrider> jceggbert5: i must not have seen that Option
[06:36] <jceggbert5> it's the first one
[06:37] <overrider> jceggbert5: then thats what i picked. Try or install Ubuntu
[06:37] <felix_> Soren_, tick ALL
[06:37] <Soren_> in every tab?
[06:37] <jceggbert5> did you boot from CD or the Flash Drive
[06:37] <overrider> jceggbert5: the flash drive
[06:37] <zenxr> jceggbert5: sorry, i misread your question
[06:37] <felix_> Soren_,  yes
[06:37] <zenxr> which window manager are you attempting to switch to?
[06:38] <jceggbert5> oh, i did something different to install ubuntu to the drive
[06:38] <jceggbert5> how big is your drive?
[06:38] <Soren_> even pre release and unsupported?
[06:38] <jceggbert5> emerald
[06:38] <friendishan> Which is th correct channel to ask about Web designing ?
[06:38] <jceggbert5> @zenxr emerald
[06:38] <zenxr> try --replace emerald
[06:38] <jceggbert5> full command please
[06:39] <zenxr> whoops
[06:39] <zenxr> --emerald replace
[06:39] <overrider> jceggbert5: its a 4gb drive, so i just picked the USB Startup Disk Creator, and installed it, leaving 4gb - ~600mb for my personal Files. It was quite straight forward
[06:39] <codename> Does the Razer mouse work on LINUX
[06:39] <Soren_> :|
[06:39] <Xcell> friendishan-   load chat channels in your client and do a search..
[06:39] <bullgard4> ozzmosis: Thank you.
[06:39] <friendishan> Xcell how
[06:39] <Xcell> what version
[06:39] <Mousie_NotTaken> Linux newbie. I have a little experience getting around but not much. Anyways, fresh install of Ubuntu 7.04. I am trying to update my system using the system update and I am getting 404 errors. I have a working internet connection (connected right now from the desktop).Hopefully a picture might help a little bit. http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y24/falnangl/ErrorUpdates.png
[06:40] <she_dyed> codename guy I know swears by it
[06:40] <felix_> Soren_, those not
[06:40] <jceggbert5> ok, i used a windows installer to drive found here: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-ubuntu-904-persistent-install-windows/
[06:40] <she_dyed> codename, cant recall what distro tho
[06:40] <codename> So it works?
[06:40] <friendishan> cell where is load chat channels ?
[06:40] <|ntegra|> !webcam
[06:40] <Soren_> felix_ please tell me what to check or what not to check
[06:40] <she_dyed> codename,  yes
[06:40] <codename> Thanks!
[06:40] <genii> Mousie_NotTaken: 7.04 is past it's End Of Life and so the repositories it is trying to reach no longer exist
[06:40] <zenxr> @mousie, seems to me the repository is gone.
[06:40] <RedSocrates> Mousie_NotTaken: I believe the problem is that Ubuntu 7.04 is no longer supported
[06:41] <RedSocrates> Yeah, basically what everyone just said
[06:41] <she_dyed> codename, hang out in mandriva and ask that when theres people there
[06:41]  * Soren_ thinks he must be getting PUNKed
[06:41] <jceggbert5> @zenxr, what exactly would i type into terminal?
[06:41] <overrider> jceggbert5: And that way allows you to simply install custom programs which survive a reboot?
[06:41] <friendishan> Xcell where is load chat channels ?
[06:41] <zenxr> *no quotes* "--emerald replace"
[06:41] <felix_> chech all in the first tab. all in third parties. then recommended and security and no more
[06:42] <Xcell> friendishan-  what chat client are you using
[06:42] <jceggbert5> yes... i have it on 3 flash drives and they have xtra programs on them and other stuff
[06:42] <Xcell> xchat?
[06:42] <Soren_> k
[06:42] <jceggbert5> like settings, documents, pictures etc.
[06:42] <overrider> neat, Thanks, will give it a go now
[06:42] <zenxr> @jceggbert5: 3 drives o.O
[06:42] <friendishan> Xchat gnome IRC
[06:42] <Mousie_NotTaken> Ok, I was having issues with the newer versions with my video card. The screen would flicker so I chose to use an earlier version that did work properly. Is there a way I can update the repositories to update correctly? Or am I SOL unless I upgrade?
[06:42] <friendishan> Xcell Xchat gnome IRC
[06:42] <jceggbert5> computer rescue drives
[06:43] <overrider> jceggbert5: Yes, Documents and stuff is okay, its just that i need extra progams, like clamav
[06:43] <jceggbert5> the programs survive
[06:43] <jceggbert5> with the link i gave you
[06:43] <unikon>  whats the name of the penguin downhill race game
[06:43] <jceggbert5> it HAS to be done in windows tho :(
[06:43] <friendishan_> Xcell i'm on Xchat IRC now
[06:43] <Xcell> friendishan-  i use regular xchat.. not gnome..install regular xchat from synaptic and you will have all the options xchat gnome does not have.
[06:44] <zenxr> Xcell: is regular xchat CLI?
[06:44] <she_dyed> unikon, think its tuxracer
[06:44] <friendishan_> Xcell this is friendishan i installed regular xchat
[06:44] <Soren_> felix, close and reload?
[06:44] <jceggbert5> @zenxr, yes, 3 drives
[06:44] <ubuntu_> hi
[06:44] <felix_> Soren_, yes, then attemt again to install kgrub
[06:45] <Chr|s> ubuntu_: hi
[06:45] <felix_> Soren_, "sudo apt-get install grub kgrubeditor"
[06:45] <Mousie_NotTaken> Thank you everyone for your help and support.
[06:45] <lvlefisto> i want nautilus to show list view always for every folder i browse
[06:45] <Soren_> could not DL all repository indexes
[06:45] <friendishan> Xcell how to i use it ?
[06:45] <friendishan_> Xcell how do i use it ?
[06:45] <felix_> Soren_, what ones
[06:46] <Xcell> friendishan_-  friendishan  right ick empy snndow and---> server / chan list
[06:46] <Xcell> click
[06:46] <Xcell> my k/b bat is dying
[06:46] <houndogg> hi, any chance I could get some help with an issue setting up the pptpd server?
[06:46] <friendishan_> Xcell snndow ?
[06:46] <Soren_> Failed to fetch cdrom://Ubuntu 8.10 _Intrepid Ibex_ - Release i386 (20081029.5)/dists/intrepid/main/binary-i386/Packages  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[06:46] <Xcell> window
[06:46] <Soren_> Failed to fetch cdrom://Ubuntu 8.10 _Intrepid Ibex_ - Release i386 (20081029.5)/dists/intrepid/restricted/binary-i386/Packages  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[06:46] <felix_> Soren_, dont worry about that
[06:46] <felix_> Soren_, "sudo apt-get install grub kgrubeditor"
[06:46] <friendishan_> Xcell empy ?
[06:47] <Soren_> Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[06:47] <Soren_> k
[06:47] <Xcell> right click in blank space in chat window and go to server / chan list
[06:47] <friendishan_> Xcell then ?
[06:47] <Soren_> it is asing for a DVD to be inserted into the drive
[06:48] <Xcell> click list of channels
[06:48] <Xcell> dear god
[06:48] <Soren_> omg.........You have 2 broken packages on your system.....Use the "Broken" filter to locate them.
[06:48] <felix_> Soren_, open again software origins and untick the ubuntu cd
[06:48] <bazhang> Soren_, is the cd enabled in your sources.list? if so, disable it as a source
[06:48] <felix_> lol
[06:48] <friendishan_> Xcell there is no option like that
[06:49] <friendishan_> Xcell no empty window
[06:49] <Soren_> There is another synaptic running in non-interactive mode. Please wait for it to finish first.
[06:49] <Xcell> friendishan-  @ the top menu click (server) and click (list of channels)
[06:50] <friendishan_> ok
[06:50] <felix_> Soren_, thats update manager. let it finish, perhaps it solves your problems.
[06:50] <felix_> then
[06:50] <felix_> Soren_, "sudo apt-get install grub kgrubeditor"
[06:50] <Xcell> i use a hidden menu so i had to recall it to do that
[06:50] <felix_> im sure that if you no do that your computer wont boot again
[06:50] <felix_> you have tryed to install lilo and that caused lots of problems
[06:52] <Soren_> update mgr is running........thaT IS thecrazy thing that did the LiLo thing in the 1st place
[06:52] <Soren_> sheeeeeeesh
[06:52] <Xcell> woops
[06:52] <Xcell> thats gotta suck
[06:52] <felix_> Soren_, that has no sense. lilo is deprecated and not installed by default
[06:53] <Soren_> I didn't say it makes sense
[06:53] <felix_> update manager wont install it
[06:53] <Soren_> I do not know enough to mske it instasll old stuff, that is for sure
[06:54] <``y7> fresh ubuntu install. i setup eth0 to have an external ip and eth1 to be my default gateway. it works for a day. 20 minutes after i leave to go eat, the thing disconnects. any ideas?  by disconnects, i mean it lost the external ip.
[06:54] <felix_> update manager only install updates. for other programs use apps, add/remove or apt or synaptic
[06:55] <Xcell> Time for my beauty rest... nn.
[06:55] <Captain_Haddock> I just went through the installation for jaunty .. all was well. But, upon reboot, I get a GRUB error "Error 2"
[06:55] <Soren_> felix, I have unchecked SOURCE three times, and it still tells me it can't find it
[06:56] <TheFunkbomb> if you guys were setting up a dual boot and wanted to format a third partition as a file share between the two OSes, what format would you use?  ext2, fat32, or ntfs?
[06:56] <felix_> Soren_, that have fix, but its not important unless youre going to download sources.
[06:57] <Soren_> ok, what now
[06:57] <felix_> Soren_, "sudo apt-get install grub kgrubeditor"
[06:57] <Soren_> ty
[06:59] <Soren_> ok, it is Dling something
[07:00] <rolando> ?
[07:00] <Soren_> this is making me crazy...........ok, more crazy
[07:00] <felix_> os Soren_ when finished run "sudo kgrubeditor" and check if you have dual boot options without changing anything
[07:00] <bullgard4> What is a "seat"? http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/ConsoleKit: "ConsoleKit is a framework for defining and tracking users, login sessions, and seats."
[07:00] <Soren_> felix_, like before?
[07:00] <Soren_> lol
[07:00] <zenxr> Soren: just manually edit the grub.config file -.-
[07:01] <Captain_Haddock> anybody able to help with my GRUB error?
[07:01] <zenxr> Captain: hit me
[07:01] <zenxr> what's the issue?
[07:01] <Soren_> lol @ me manually doing anything
[07:01] <felix_> zenxr, is very noob. let him use a gui
[07:01] <Captain_Haddock> zenxr: I just went through the installation for jaunty .. all was well. But, upon reboot, I get a GRUB error "Error 2"
[07:01] <zenxr> felix don't i remember you from yesterday?
[07:01] <Soren_> what he sad
[07:02] <OuZo> hi, if i am networking two computers over a crossover cable, how can i make them see each other? thanks
[07:02] <amar> i have change directory problem
[07:02] <Captain_Haddock> zenxr: I have three drives - 1 IDE (boot) and 2 SATA drives (data)
[07:02] <felix_> yes i was here yesterday zenxr
[07:02] <zenxr> Captain it's an issue with the partition from what i've just read
[07:03] <Soren_> felix_, where are you
[07:03] <zenxr> are the filesystems recognized correctly?
[07:03] <felix_> here
[07:03] <Soren_> no
[07:03] <Soren_> where are you located
[07:03] <felix_> madrid, spain
[07:04] <Soren_> cool
[07:04] <Captain_Haddock> zenxr: how do I fix it? I expect that I'll need to edit the GRUB files
[07:04] <Captain_Haddock> zenxr: filesystems - I can't tell
[07:04] <Soren_> when do you sleep
[07:04] <Captain_Haddock> they were formatted as ext3
[07:04] <zenxr> is it a fresh install?
[07:04] <Captain_Haddock> yep
[07:04] <felix_> Soren_, that's actually a good question
[07:04] <Captain_Haddock> this is the reboot after installation
[07:04] <Soren_> lol
[07:05] <Soren_> I think you have been here as long as I h alrready sleptave been today, and you should have
[07:05] <zenxr> i'd just re-install again, and if that doesn't work boot a live cd, check the filesystems with cfdisk (and probably edit the recognization accordingly)
[07:05] <wladston> guys, I updated my server from 8.10 to 9.04. My scanner with saned was working since 8.04, but now it broke ... saned daemon doesn't start anymore ... ideas ?
[07:05] <zenxr> if that's not an option I don't really know what to do
[07:05] <Soren_> uhg, I hate touchpads
[07:05] <zenxr> wladston it may not recognize the new kernel
[07:05] <felix_> Soren_, youre true;  im in a ubuntu user help marathon ;)
[07:06] <zenxr> lol @ filex
[07:06] <wladston> zenxr: I didn't update the kernel
[07:06] <zenxr> ah
[07:06] <Soren_> I like the name filex better
[07:06] <notdarkyet> this sucks, so I decided it was a great idea to get drunk with my friends.  when I get back I decide that its the perfect time to upgrade to jaunty from 8.10 on my laptop.  just so happens that this move kills my wireless.  i don't remember fucking around with ndiswrapper on this comp (just the other ones) so conveniently it "just worked".  sadly now it does not.  any tips on what i should look at or go to.   obviously i might not 
[07:06] <neil_d> does the sil 3114 SATA controller work under ubuntu?  can you hot-swap the drives?
[07:06] <Captain_Haddock> zenxr: Can I edit the GRUB file or something myself? I'm using the alternate CD
[07:06] <notdarkyet> any ideas?
[07:06] <zenxr> yes you can
[07:07] <RedSocrates> !language | notdarkyet
[07:07] <felix_> Soren_, actually my nick is Isilion, but im in a custom distro that im developing, called felix
[07:07] <notdarkyet> i am very sorry
[07:07] <zenxr> The GRUB file is on your installed parition, mount it if not done so already
[07:07] <Soren_> oic
[07:07] <RedSocrates> notdarkyet: No prob.  What wireless card are you using?
[07:07] <notdarkyet> too make things better i set up a media box (with boxee) for my dad and the motherboard died today!!!!!!
[07:07] <wladston> zenxr: any ideas on how to troubleshoot it ?
[07:07] <notdarkyet> umm hmm its atheros
[07:08] <Captain_Haddock> zenxr: I don't get to a command prompt
[07:08] <notdarkyet> its a crap acer laptop
[07:08] <Soren_> does this mean it is done DLing?.................... Processing triggers for libc6 .............ldconfig deferred processing now taking place...........greg@greg-laptop:~$
[07:08] <zenxr> wladston: not really :[
[07:08] <notdarkyet> sorry lang
[07:08] <Captain_Haddock> is there a bypass shortcut or something?
[07:08] <wladston> zenxr: ok, thanks :)
[07:08] <zenxr> Captain_Haddock: what do you mean?
[07:08] <felix_> Soren_,  yes, now "sudo kgrubeditor" (be careful)
[07:08] <zenxr> Captain_Haddock
[07:08] <RedSocrates> notdarkyet: one sec
[07:08] <zenxr> whoops
[07:08] <Soren_> lol
[07:08] <notdarkyet> its a junk acer laptop, but i feel like i am missing the boat as to why an upgrade would kill the drivers.  I mean isnt that the point of "upgrading"?
[07:08] <notdarkyet> rather than a clean install
[07:09] <Captain_Haddock> zenxr: rephrase: How do I access my installed partition with the alternate CD?
[07:09] <zenxr> Captain_Haddock: Ah, one second I have it written somewhere
[07:09] <notdarkyet> i mean i am no linux noob but i have my feet set right at the starting line of intermediate
[07:09] <Soren_> sudo kgrubeditor = command not found
[07:09] <RedSocrates> notdarkyet: Do you have the laptop available right now?
[07:09] <dustydawgg> u r a n00b
[07:09] <notdarkyet> i am on it just hardwired
[07:09] <RedSocrates> k
[07:10] <zenxr> Captain_Haddock: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=343326
[07:10] <Flannel> !noob | dustydawgg
[07:10] <Soren_> felix_ sudo kgrubeditor = command not found
[07:10] <notdarkyet> wireless stopped
[07:10] <RedSocrates> notdarkyet: Can you pastebin the outputs of a couple commands?
[07:10] <notdarkyet> definately
[07:10] <zenxr> after that, the grub file is /boot/grub/grub.config
[07:10] <RedSocrates> notdarkyet: k.  How about "lspci" and "lsmod | grep ath" and "ifconfig -a"?
[07:10] <notdarkyet> i appreciate the concern and help
[07:10] <felix_> Soren_, start typyng kgrub.. then hit tabulator
[07:10] <shentino> Is anyone besides me having subshell screen problems with Midnight Commander?
[07:10] <felix_> that will complete the name
[07:11] <frank___> I have installed ubuntu a week ago, and I think I removed something I shouldn't have, because I don't have wifi on my laptop anymore...any suggestions?
[07:11] <lenito> hola
[07:11] <notdarkyet> ho for the pastbin i will set it up
[07:11] <frank___> note: it did have wifi
[07:11] <pintook> hello
[07:11] <zenxr> /boot/grub/menu.lst sorry
[07:11] <Captain_Haddock> zenxr: I unfortunately don't have a live CD :( I'm using the alternate CD
[07:11] <lenito> HOLA A TODOS
[07:11] <Soren_> felix_, typre kgrub where? and what is tabulator
[07:11] <shentino> I'm thinking that independent confirmation of the bug might prod the triagers to take a look at it
[07:11] <zenxr> Captain_Haddock: what the heck is an alternate CD?
[07:11] <felix_> omg
[07:11] <Soren_> :O
[07:11] <pintook> hello elki
[07:11] <felix_> tab = the key above bloq mayus
[07:11] <whatvn> frank__: lspci | grep wireless
[07:12] <whatvn> frank__: lspci | grep Wireless
[07:12] <Captain_Haddock> zenxr: the text based installation CD
[07:12] <pintook> i just joined xchat
[07:12] <notdarkyet> for the lspci output can i just show you the atheros output or do you want it all:?
[07:12] <Soren_> we cal it the Tab key
[07:12] <zenxr> Captain_Haddock: sorry I should have known
[07:12] <RedSocrates> notdarkyet: Just the atheros output is fine
[07:12] <notdarkyet> 06:02.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR2413 802.11bg NIC (rev 01)
[07:12] <frank___> whatvn: i ran that command, nothing shows in terminal...
[07:12] <zenxr> Captain_Haddock: you cannot get any command line that does standard linux commands?
[07:13] <notdarkyet> that might be easier, although let me know if that is not appropriate for the room
[07:13] <lenito> :-PQUE TAL
[07:13] <whatvn> frank__: lspci | grep Wireless , I use lower-case before, so it's wrong
[07:13] <felix_> lenito vete a #ubuntu-es si quieres hablar español.
[07:13] <Soren_> !pastebin
[07:13] <bc> whatvn: or use grep -i
[07:13] <lenito> ÑLJKH
[07:13] <notdarkyet> nothing for lsmod | grep ath
[07:13] <whatvn> bc: yes
[07:13] <BlueParrot> hi guys , I changed my password but for some reason it seems to have not changed tha password for my wireless keyring and thus I get prompted for my old password every time nm-applet starts. Any ideas how to fix it ?
[07:13] <Captain_Haddock> zenxr: I don't know... I get the grub error as soon as I boot up
[07:13] <zenxr> Captain_Haddock: you are aware that whenever grub boots you can edit it before you select a partition to load?
[07:13] <brEz> Hi, does the "rm" command delete that file from your machine?
[07:14] <notdarkyet> ifconfig -a
[07:14] <notdarkyet> oops
[07:14] <bullgard4> What is a "seat"? http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/ConsoleKit: "ConsoleKit is a framework for defining and tracking users, login sessions, and seats."
[07:14] <felix_> brEz, completely
[07:14] <brEz> nice
[07:14] <notdarkyet> sorry booze wrong input
[07:14] <frank___> whatvn: same thing, i ran with capital W and with the -i
[07:14] <brEz> so if I compile something, then rm -r /file
[07:14] <lenito> ‎
[07:14] <BlueParrot> brEz, it marks it as deleted in the filesystem, in theory the data is still there but it can be rather hard to restore it
[07:14] <Soren_> felix_ http://paste.ubuntu.com/177708/
[07:14] <brEz> it's all gone ?
[07:14] <ScottG> What is a good state I can leave my laptop in where if the battery runs out the system wont be damaged?
[07:14] <ScottG> Can I just do a sudo shutdown and let it hang at the prompt?
[07:14] <whatvn> frank__: so you must find driver for your wireless, reinstall it
[07:14] <Captain_Haddock> zenxr: I don't get to the select option page.. I just get "Grub 1.5 loading ..." (or similar) and then "error 2" :(
[07:14] <felix_> Soren_,  nothing is wrong with that
[07:14] <BlueParrot> brEz, if it's a text file you can use "grep" on your harddrive , if it's a binary file there are other more advanced tools, but in general it is a pain
[07:14] <lenito> SALUDOS
[07:14] <Soren_> felix_, hit any key....................where is the "any key"? lol
[07:15] <pintook> hello felix
[07:15] <Soren_> so?
[07:15] <brEz> eg: I installed an eggdrop, I messed it up - wanted to start from scratch so I did rm -r "eggdrop"
[07:15] <felix_> hello pintook
[07:15] <brEz> to delete everything
[07:15] <brEz> ??
[07:15] <pintook> hi
[07:15] <zenxr> Captain_Haddock: Sorry, I thought the issue was with an already installed partition. You have a problem with your CD; I don't think that's fixable and you may need to download it again
[07:15] <notdarkyet> RedSocrates: http://pastebin.com/m53d0255d and thank you for looking, that is the output for ifconfig -a
[07:15] <pintook> thanks for responding
[07:16] <frank___> if i do hard wire and check for updates, will it install automatically? Since it had it installed when i installed ubuntu
[07:16] <RedSocrates> notdarkyet: k, thanks.  And now "lsmod | grep ath"
[07:16] <Soren_> felix_ so everything ids ok now?
[07:16] <BlueParrot> brEz, there is no eazy way to "undo" an rm command, but in some cases it is possible ( but tedious ) to restore some of the data. Unless the data you lost is very important it is usually not worth the effort.
[07:16] <pintook> felix pls who is the administratoe in the room
[07:16] <felix_> brEz, "sudo rm -fr /full/path/to/eggdrop"
[07:16] <brEz> BlueParrot: I don't want to undo it, I'm just wondering if it's gone, or if it's gonna use up my harddrive :P
[07:17] <felix_> Soren_, "sudo apt-get install grub kgrubeditor"
[07:17] <pintook> hi felix
[07:17] <felix_> sorry
[07:17] <felix_> if you finished DLing, then kgrubTAB on a console
[07:17] <BlueParrot> brEz, oh the space is free for the operating system to use, so that's not a problem, but depending on your filesystem it may be possible to still retrieve it so it's not a "secure" way to delete private information.
[07:17] <felix_> pintook, dont have to be polite. if you have a question, simply doit ;)
[07:18] <notdarkyet> RedSocrates: I get nothing from lsmod | grep ath
[07:18] <pintook> felix i need to install CAD for ubuntu 9.0.4
[07:18] <pintook> ok
[07:18] <brEz> Nice, thanks :)
[07:18] <Soren_> felix_ http://paste.ubuntu.com/177709/
[07:18] <BlueParrot> brEz, but yes, if you use rm to delete a file that will free the space from the drive
[07:18] <RedSocrates> notdarkyet: Okay, that's likely the source of your problem, then.  The proper modules aren't loaded.  We'll try a few
[07:18] <RedSocrates> notdarkyet: Try "sudo modprobe ath5k" first, and then tell me if the output of "ifconfig -a" changes
[07:18] <felix_> pintook, i think its impossible. but you can try wine.
[07:18] <whatvn> frank__: can you give me ifconfig output?
[07:18] <pintook> i need CAD for ubuntu equvalent to Autocad
[07:19] <Soren_> I think I need a few bottles of wine
[07:19] <BlueParrot> brEz, basically what it does is tell the filesystem to treat the area of the disk the file occupied as if it was free space. It doesn't rally eraze any data but it makes it so that the operating system can overwrite it if it needs the space.
[07:19] <notdarkyet> wow the help is so much appreciated
[07:19] <felix_> whatvn, i dunno any, search the repos. search google. :)
[07:19] <pintook> ok
[07:19] <notdarkyet> ahah "FATAL: Module ath5k not found."
[07:19] <notdarkyet> might be the source
[07:19] <brEz> oh
[07:19] <brEz> thanks mate :)
[07:19] <felix_> pintook,  i dunno any, search the repos. search google. :)
[07:19] <zenxr> pintook: what about qcad?
[07:19] <whatvn> felix_, what?
[07:19] <pintook> i have wine installed but i need a sbstitue for aautocad
[07:20] <felix_> sorry whatvn
[07:20] <Soren_> felix_ http://paste.ubuntu.com/177709/
[07:20] <frank___> whatvn: http://pastebin.com/m5cf2557e
[07:20] <RedSocrates> notdarkyet: This is Jaunty?
[07:20] <notdarkyet> yeah i just upgraded hence the source of the problems
[07:20] <zenxr> pintook: what do you mean? qcad runs through linux without wine doesn't it?
[07:21] <felix_> Soren_, that's your old kernel. it updated automatically before. you can follow the instructions "sudo apt-get autoremove"
[07:21] <trialnerror> pintook: there is no linux substitute for autocad
[07:21] <whatvn> frank__: what type of your wireless card?
[07:21] <RedSocrates> notdarkyet: Hm, that's odd.  I thought the ath5k module was included by default with Jaunty.
[07:21] <frank___> whatvn: not sure
[07:21] <peepsalot> did jaunty replace totem with gnome-mplayer as the default audio player?
[07:21] <zenxr> trialnerror: not an exact substitute no..
[07:21] <trialnerror> autocad is a good reason to have a windows partition
[07:21] <RedSocrates> notdarkyet: What happens if you try "sudo modprobe ath_pci"?  Then does the output of "ifconfig -a" change?
[07:22] <notdarkyet> right? i know i was confused myself having it work previously and break on an upgrade
[07:22] <zenxr> trialnerror: virtualbox plawks :{
[07:22] <frank___> whatvn: when i first installed ubuntu, it worked, but I think I uninstalled something to cause it to fail
[07:22] <notdarkyet> no return
[07:22] <trialnerror> i stand corrected
[07:22] <whatvn> frank__: you removed wireless driver.
[07:22] <pintook> is iok zenxr i am just installing the qcad
[07:22] <supergear> who needs windows anyways
[07:23] <notdarkyet> are there any repositories that i can just apt-get to install them all?
[07:23] <whatvn> frank__: find your wireless card name, check for its driver
[07:23] <RedSocrates> notdarkyet: What do you mean, "no return"?
[07:23] <zenxr> supergear: I have a windows desktop for gaming.
[07:23] <supergear> Comsoles are for gaming!
[07:23] <Soren_> felix_ http://paste.ubuntu.com/177712/
[07:23] <zenxr> lol true
[07:23] <notdarkyet> it returns nothing and just goes to an another line
[07:23] <RedSocrates> notdarkyet: If there was no return after "sudo modprobe ath_pci", that's actually good.
[07:23] <RedSocrates> notdarkyet: Right.  Does something show up now when you type "lsmod | grep ath"?
[07:23] <felix_> Soren_,  now "sudo kgrubTAB"
[07:24] <notdarkyet> oh sorry
[07:24] <pintook> how does voice chat works in xchat
[07:24] <bullgard4> peepsalot: On my 9.04, it is Rhythmbox.
[07:24] <shentino> supergear:  Nethack all the way!
[07:24] <indus> it doesnt
[07:24] <Soren_> lol where is TAB......................>KIDDING
[07:24] <notdarkyet> yeah can I paste it here? three lines
[07:24] <ActionParsnip1> pintook: it doesnt
[07:24] <RedSocrates> notdarkyet: No, I know what it says :)
[07:24] <pintook> ok
[07:24] <notdarkyet> ahah, experience is a godsend
[07:24] <ActionParsnip1> pintook: irc doesnt support voice
[07:24] <RedSocrates> notdarkyet: Now, does "wlan0" or "ath0" or anything different show up when you type "ifconfig -a"?
[07:24] <pintook> how best can i run paltalk
[07:25] <brEz> where would the tcllib file be located?
[07:25] <pintook> how best can i on ubuntu
[07:25] <shentino> Would someone with spare time please confirm this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mc/+bug/367318
[07:25] <bc> anyone have any idea why miro no longer runs when selected from gnome-do?
[07:25] <shentino> I think independent confirmation would grease the wheels with the triagers
[07:25] <bc> (strace gave me no clues)
[07:25] <pintook> how best can i run paltalk on ubuntu
[07:26] <bullgard4> What is a "seat"? http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/ConsoleKit: "ConsoleKit is a framework for defining and tracking users, login sessions, and seats."
[07:26] <zenxr> is bullgard4 a bot or something?
[07:26] <tank-man> bullgard4, like a liscense
[07:26] <ActionParsnip1> pintook: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=152965
[07:26] <pintook> pls who is the moderator in this room
[07:27] <HorizonXP> is it possible to install Ubuntu Server with a graphical front-end, that I could VNC into?
[07:27] <notdarkyet> sorry, by different to you mean names or pairings or what (sorry i have been drinking, but i appreciate the help so much)? just what differences am i looking for?
[07:27] <zenxr> pintook they may very well be AFK
[07:27] <Soren_> felix_ http://paste.ubuntu.com/177713/
[07:27] <ActionParsnip1> pintook: looks like its a no go afaics
[07:27] <HorizonXP> or, if not, is there a significant difference in using desktop edition vs server edition as a LAMP server
[07:27] <coolkourt> hello i have an asipre one, i am curious if there is anyway for me to use my dual display on 9.nr04 u
[07:27] <notdarkyet> wait i will paste bin those
[07:27] <RedSocrates> notdarkyet: It's a bit hard to say off the top of my head; could you just pastebin "ifconfig -a"
[07:27] <RedSocrates> notdarkyet: Yeah, that's fine
[07:27] <pintook> Hello AFK
[07:27] <idahoev1> hey - where is the configuration for gem stored?  I ran sudo gem update --system, and now it thinks there are no gems installed.  (gem environment says gems path is /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8  but all my gems are actually in /var/lib/gems/1.8/gems)
[07:27] <felix_> HorizonXP, yes, once you have installed Ubuntu server and has console access type "apt-get install gnome/kde"
[07:27] <idahoev1> oops wrong room soory
[07:28] <mobi-sheep> HorizonXP: Server edition came with no GUI.
[07:28] <notdarkyet> http://pastebin.com/m3d9b6f8c
[07:28] <volo1> HorizonXP: There's a web interface for managing the Ubuntu Server, as far as I know
[07:28] <Soren_> felix_ http://paste.ubuntu.com/177713/
[07:28] <Demonicdata> Anyone able to set up i2p?
[07:28] <shentino> kvm -vnc :1?
[07:28] <shentino> :P
[07:28] <RedSocrates> notdarkyet: That's in the direction I was looking for. :)  Hopefully we're almost there
[07:28] <ravelon> eurythmia, why is it better downloading eclipse from the website?
[07:29] <mojo_> ls
[07:29] <volo1> HorizonXP: And if not that, then admin with Webmin
[07:29] <ActionParsnip1> HorizonXP: or dont use the gui (which is why the server doesnt come with one) and use ssh or cli
[07:29] <mojo_> opps sorry
[07:29] <RedSocrates> notdarkyet: I assume you know your wireless ESSID, your key, etc?  Do you use WEP or WPA?
[07:29] <volo1> HorizonXP: I agree with ActionParsnip1
[07:29] <felix_> Soren_, look in Apps, System tools, kgrub
[07:30] <Soren_> kgrobeditor
[07:30] <ActionParsnip1> HorizonXP: unless you have >4Gb ram on a 32bit chip, installing server then a gui is a complete waste of time and you may as well install deskto as you gain nothing
[07:30] <mobi-sheep> !ubuntu-server | HorizonXP
[07:30] <notdarkyet> actually i am home for a small summer break and there is no encryption whatsoever on my dads router, but at school its just wep because i can safely assume no one is sniffing it
[07:30] <notdarkyet> why?
[07:31] <RedSocrates> notdarkyet: Okay, that's fine.  You know the ESSID at least?
[07:31] <notdarkyet> hey can i pm you?
[07:31] <RedSocrates> notdarkyet: Nah, I don't need it
[07:31] <Soren_> felix_ kgrubeditor
[07:31] <RedSocrates> notdarkyet: Just making sure before I give you the next bit
[07:31] <notdarkyet> ok i just feel dumb with my questions
[07:31] <felix_> Soren_, yes
[07:31] <RedSocrates> notdarkyet: Not at all :)
[07:31] <Soren_> ok?
[07:31] <notdarkyet> no i actually do not sorry
[07:31] <felix_> Soren_, yes
[07:31] <notdarkyet> essid that is
[07:32] <Soren_> yes? open it?
[07:32] <RedSocrates> notdarkyet: The ESSID is basically just the name of the network.  You don't know that?
[07:32] <notdarkyet> oh ahaha sorry yeah
[07:32] <felix_> Soren_, yes
[07:32] <felix_> lol
[07:32] <RedSocrates> k, good :)
[07:32] <coolkourt> is there any way to do dual screen on UNR and aspire one
[07:32] <felix_> Soren_, hurry please
[07:32] <ActionParsnip1> !dualhead
[07:33] <HorizonXP> ActionParsnip1, volo1: These would be on quad-core Xeon machines, with... I don't know how much RAM, could be 4GB. I am personally used to SSH and CLI, but there are some instances where I need to VNC in.
[07:33] <RedSocrates> notdarkyet: Are you in GNOME?  And is NetworkManager loaded on your task bar?
[07:33] <Soren_> opend
[07:33] <felix_> Soren_, or you must wait until i return from buying tobacco...
[07:33] <Soren_> lol
[07:33] <felix_> :)
[07:33] <OrEvA> I am not able to download anything from the repos ........... this is my error msg " http://paste.ubuntu.com/177714/"
[07:33] <OrEvA> please help
[07:33] <Soren_> no patches?
[07:33] <ActionParsnip1> HorizonXP: then as long as you use the 64bit desktop system, you will get exactly the same as installing server and a destop environment
[07:33] <Soren_> no gum?
[07:33] <felix_> what you see? do you see windows and linux stuff? both?
[07:33] <notdarkyet> wait it just started working
[07:34] <RedSocrates> notdarkyet: Yeah, that's not surprising.  It'll autoconnect, typically
[07:34] <Soren_> both
[07:34] <notdarkyet> no but it can see the wireless networks
[07:34] <Soren_> a lot of ubuntu stuff and a XP
[07:34] <bullgard4> tank-man: I disagree.
[07:34] <notdarkyet> now
[07:34] <HorizonXP> ActionParsnip1, volo1: I'm streaming a number of internet radio streams on one server via VLC. It can and is done via CLI and the built-in HTTP interface, but it is good to have a fallback.
[07:34] <RedSocrates> notdarkyet: Okay, so you can connect to the wireless network, then?
[07:34] <notdarkyet> i feel as though i drank to much and this is trippy
[07:34] <felix_> ok you can custom it a bit. choose a splash image if you like, default boot option, delay time. thats safe.
[07:34] <notdarkyet> yeah definately
[07:35] <RedSocrates> notdarkyet: Okay, great.  What was happening was that the module was not loading at startup.
[07:35] <Soren_> a lot of ubuntu lines and one XP line
[07:35] <HorizonXP> ActionParsnip1: so no difference between desktop and server on 64-bit? that's surprising.
[07:35] <Soren_> lol
[07:35] <notdarkyet> and what command changed that? its not as though i gave you root access to change anything so i am missing something
[07:35] <OrEvA> I am not able to download anything from the repos ........... this is my error msg " http://paste.ubuntu.com/177714/".....any one please help me
[07:35] <Soren_> later, maybe, huh?
[07:35] <HorizonXP> ActionParsnip1: I'll have to find out about this server. I had to upgrade it from 7.10 to 8.04, but not sure if the last guy had the sense to use AMD64.
[07:36] <RedSocrates> notdarkyet: The command I had you type earlier, "sudo modprobe ath_pci", loaded the appropriate module
[07:36] <felix_> Soren_, those are the other kernels boot lines. i mean the kernel you updated. so you can safely delete em
[07:36] <HorizonXP> ActionParsnip1: He didn't have the sense to use an LTS release even though it was available.
[07:36] <notdarkyet> geez, so can i change the loading scripts so that command is executed everytime?
[07:36] <felix_> Soren_, not all, just the oldest version
[07:36] <ActionParsnip1> HorizonXP: theres a server kernel that supports PAE. and the default install doesnt have an x server or all the gui apps a desktop system has (like firefox etc) to save space and resources. Why have yu installed someting when you are clearly blind to the differences.
[07:36] <Soren_> felix_, I do not want to have to start over agin
[07:36] <notdarkyet> or is that not the right process?
[07:36] <CiPHER_> can someone help me get my sound working again on jaunty? It stopped working after I installed avant window manager
[07:37] <RedSocrates> notdarkyet: Right.  The standard way is to add the line "ath_pci" (without quotes) to /etc/modules
[07:37] <Soren_> felix, there is a bunch of 9.04 lines and one Xp line
[07:37] <ActionParsnip1> HorizonXP: theres also other tweaks in the kernel that are groovy for servers, you can install the server kernel in the desktop release if you deem it suitable, but for home users the desktop release is much better suited
[07:38] <felix_> Soren_, pay attention to the numbers of the kernel that boots every line. delete the lowest
[07:38] <HorizonXP> ActionParsnip1: That's what I wanted to know. So the difference between the two is not merely the lack of a GUI.
[07:38] <george_> I want to install libc6, It says the only dependency is libgcc1 w/out any version information.  Is there any other checks I can do to make sure it will work.
[07:38] <notdarkyet> ok so i opened the file /etc/modules should i just tack on ath_pci and the bottom?  too simple i love it
[07:38] <RedSocrates> notdarkyet: Now, I'll tell you one thing, I don't know the details of your exact card.  What I told you to do here was what could get it working the quickest.  It may be that the ath5k modules will work better with your particular card, and so you might consider installing them later (when you've slept it off a bit :)
[07:38] <notdarkyet> ahah
[07:39] <RedSocrates> notdarkyet: But this should certainly work perfectly fine for now
[07:39] <notdarkyet> maybe
[07:39] <notdarkyet> i will test it out
[07:39] <george_> I'm installing from a deb to upgrade from 2.4 to 2.7
[07:39] <Soren_> ok........................
[07:39] <RedSocrates> notdarkyet: Anyway, yes.  Just take on ath_pci at the end of that file
[07:39] <RedSocrates> notdarkyet: take=tack
[07:39] <ActionParsnip1> HorizonXP: no, it comes with the server kernel which is more customised towards server systems that will sit at logon prompt and run a tonne of background stuff. There are also some other tweaks.
[07:39] <SirEntropy> notdark,Red: I'm running ath5k right now, and I would say if it works don't poke it too much
[07:39] <neil_d> does the sil 3114 SATA controller work under ubuntu?  can you hot-swap the drives?
[07:39] <crackintosh> BinMechMini: you're stupid
[07:39] <ActionParsnip1> HorizonXP: i'd go and see exactly what they are and choose from there
[07:40] <HorizonXP> ActionParsnip1: Yeah, because it may be that they're not relevant to my situation.
[07:40] <RedSocrates> SirEntropy: Yeah, I basically agree.  I got him working with ath_pci right now rather than ath5k though, and ath5k is allegedly the one that's supposed to be more up to date
[07:40] <BinMechMini> crackintosh: i was already aware of that.
[07:40] <HorizonXP> ActionParsnip1: I'm assuming that I couldn't install VLC without a GUI though right? even though it can run in CLI mode?
[07:40] <Soren_> so only keep Ubuntu 9.04 kernel 2.6.28.11 generic AND generic (recovery) ????????
[07:40] <RedSocrates> But I agree that, if it ain't broke, no real reason to fix it
[07:40] <crackintosh> BinMechMini: stupidity is in the 9.10 release of ubuntu.
[07:40] <ActionParsnip1> HorizonXP: sure you can, a virtual x server will be spawned for the duration of the session
[07:40] <CiPHER_> Can someone help me get my sound working again on jaunty? It stopped working for no apparent reason?
[07:41] <ActionParsnip1> HorizonXP: websearch for  vnc to headless pc
[07:41] <felix_> Soren_, and memtest86+
[07:41] <Soren_> k
[07:41] <Soren_> and XP
[07:41] <HorizonXP> ActionParsnip1: a "virtual" X server? This is new to me, what's that?
[07:41] <RedSocrates> notdarkyet: After you tack on the ath_pci line to /etc/modules, you can reboot and make sure that the wireless comes up.  If it doesn't, you can come back here and either I or someone will eventually keep working with you
[07:41] <HorizonXP> ActionParsnip1: ok, googling, hold on
[07:41] <ActionParsnip1> HorizonXP: if its configured right you can use ssh and web interfaces, x and vnc are a bit clunky
[07:41] <felix_> Soren_, personally i would erase that one...
[07:41] <notdarkyet> the only reason i wanted to pm was because i wanted to ask where you get this practical knowledge.  are you a linux admin or just hobbiest.  i bought the linux administrators guide a year ago (the green one) because i was told that was a good book.  sadly from programming and things like that i find its hard to find "practical" applications of tasks.  i feel like i learn the most from struggling to solve a task i need to accomplish
[07:41] <felix_> xD
[07:41] <Soren_> rofl
[07:42] <Soren_> I have Ubuntu 9.04 kernel 2.6.28.11 generic AND generic (recovery) AND memtest AND XP
[07:42] <felix_> cool
[07:42] <sysdoc> Is anyone using the RT kernel? Not the one in the repos but one from ppa and if so how can I obtain it?
[07:42] <Patrique> hi i need to setup runlevel priority list to run ushare at startup but only after i get connected to the internet, but i don't know what's runlevel priority list. i googled it and found nothing useful. Where could I find some documentation on this?
[07:42] <myke> anyone having samba (client) probs with jaunty, or know how to fix them?  i can connect but that's it, any actions just result in a timeout, with smbclient as well as direct mount
[07:42] <RedSocrates> notdarkyet: I'm totally just a hobbyist, and a noob myself in a lot of areas.  I learned by struggling through problems and reading lots of guides
[07:43] <felix_> reboot to apply updates (it's necesary only because it have been a kernel update)
[07:43] <RedSocrates> notdarkyet: I've had a few different experiences with Atheros wireless cards in particular
[07:43] <Soren_> so I am done?
[07:43] <felix_> reboot to apply updates (it's necesary only because it have been a kernel update)
[07:43] <Soren_> then I am done?
[07:43] <felix_> yes
[07:43] <Soren_> any you get a smoke
[07:43] <Soren_> WEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!
[07:43] <felix_> youll have an up to date jaunty
[07:43]  * Soren_ dances
[07:43] <mobi-sheep> Soren_: You're never done.  Linux is [so] fun. :>
[07:43] <Soren_> mobi-sheep: lol
[07:44] <Soren_> brb, after a reboot
[07:44] <Soren_> it will auto update?
[07:44] <felix_> Soren_, whatch videos of compiz in youtube. next step is trying to install it. only for ninjas
[07:44] <felix_> lol
[07:44] <felix_> xD
[07:44] <crackintosh> BinMechMini: LOLOLOLOLOL
[07:44] <Soren_> for GRUB Editor, how do I exit? OK? Apply?
[07:45] <felix_> apply, ok
[07:45] <RedSocrates> notdarkyet: Also, I run Linux as my only OS, so that forces me to get acquainted with things from time to time
[07:45] <Soren_> felix_, I have no sound
[07:45] <JDD> hi
[07:45] <JDD> i've a problem with this mysql code
[07:45] <mase_work> hi guys, how can i get a changelog of schedualed updates. ie if i run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade it gives me a list of the packages that are going to be upgraded. I would like a changelog for those so i know which ones are critical / security and which are  optional
[07:45] <JDD> http://pastebin.com/m4beb20b
[07:45] <notdarkyet> thats where i seem to be learning, like i feel as though i have learned the most recently from setting up a deb server with apache and putting the hard drives i back every thing up in in that box.  i just learned so much from networking between all of the pc's on my network now
[07:45] <JDD> plz take a look http://pastebin.com/m4beb20b
[07:45] <indus> whats the difference between hardy and jaunty  other than the LTS thing
[07:45] <felix_> Soren_, wait a moment please, i really need a cigar
[07:45] <JDD> i pay $$
[07:45] <Soren_> ok, I am restarting now,
[07:45] <JDD> http://pastebin.com/m4beb20b
[07:45] <Soren_> right?
[07:46] <Soren_> or wait
[07:46] <HorizonXP> ActionParsnip1: it seems that it still requires the installation of X, hence a GUI. Sure, there might not be a videocard, but X is still installed and you can VNC in. So for my purposes, the differences become just the kernel tweaks you mentioned.
[07:46] <mase_work> indus: newer packages and about a year :)
[07:46] <felix_> Soren_, restart, perhaps sound fixes itsefl
[07:46] <JDD> remember remember the fifth of november
[07:46] <Soren_> ROFL
[07:46] <Soren_> riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight
[07:46] <Soren_> brb
[07:46] <RedSocrates> notdarkyet: Yep, I do similar things.  It's fun to pick up projects (like setting up servers) for no reason other than to learn sometimes
[07:46] <george_> Does 8.04 take more resources than 6.10
[07:47] <ZacDavis> george_ not really, no
[07:47] <notdarkyet> well i have been an ubuntu user for about 3 years now and only go back to windows when its an absolute necessity. but the os is getting that good that you can implement everyday tasks without getting too crazy on the command line (but now i am getting into in and starting to enjoy)
[07:47] <ActionParsnip1> HorizonXP: why do yuo need to use vnc, willssh not do what you need?
[07:47] <RedSocrates> notdarkyet: Well, glad to have you around. :)  I've only been around for maybe very slightly longer
[07:47] <ActionParsnip1> HorizonXP: if its configuring shares and ftp servers, all that can be done via ssh
[07:48] <ZacDavis> what's the shortcut in xchat to go through people's nicks and auto insert them?
[07:48] <notdarkyet> yeah i feel like a dumbass though when i have to drop into irc and ask questions because i should be searching which i normally do, but the best answers come from the people who have been there (which i learned from android developement)
[07:48] <HorizonXP> ActionParsnip1: VNC is simply if/when I need to run VLC directly on the server to test/troubleshoot the media I'm streaming.
[07:49] <mobi-sheep> ZacDavis: Just type mobi <tab>
[07:49] <HorizonXP> ActionParsnip1: I agree, anything else I need is done via SSH.
[07:49] <ZacDavis> mobi-sheep, thanks
[07:49] <mobi-sheep> ZacDavis: Welcome. :)
[07:49] <RedSocrates> notdarkyet: Haha, yeah, no problem.  People who've had the same issues know different ideas to try out when a guide might not work
[07:49] <HorizonXP> ActionParsnip1: I also think that if I try to apt-get vlc, it will automatically install X anyway.
[07:49] <myke> anyone know about smb problems with jaunty?
[07:49] <ActionParsnip1> HorizonXP: you can use vlc at cli, cvlc
[07:49] <Soren_> back
[07:49] <ActionParsnip1> !info cvlc
[07:49] <ActionParsnip1> !find vlc
[07:50]  * Soren_ is silent like a ninja
[07:50] <simplexio> well. what i recall from my ubuntu-server use , installing vlc, may add X but it dosent configure it to automaticly start
[07:50] <ZacDavis> repositories need the latest version of gtk-gnutella
[07:50] <ActionParsnip1> HorizonXP: have you considered mpd ?
[07:50] <simplexio> attleast it install alot libraries
[07:51] <HorizonXP> ActionParsnip1: MPD deals only with audio streams, and I'm not sure how well it handles multicasting.
[07:51] <licky654> i'm having trouble installing ubuntu 8.04 from usb
[07:51] <HorizonXP> ActionParsnip1: Or multiple streams at once. VLC's VLM is excellent for handling multiple streams, along with transcoding.
[07:51] <RedSocrates> notdarkyet: Anyway, I actually have to get going.  Glad we got things working for you relatively painlessly.  Good luck with it!
[07:51] <HorizonXP> ActionParsnip1: I'm pretty set on VLC. ;-)
[07:52] <notdarkyet> thanks man good luck
[07:52] <ActionParsnip1> HorizonXP: maybe theres a server based streaming app that doesnt require an x server, this would suit a server bettew
[07:52] <RedSocrates> Thanks, see ya
[07:52] <licky654> it alllows me to select the language, then it fails to find the cdrom and kicks me to the main menu
[07:52] <ActionParsnip1> HorizonXP: if you want vlc, i would install a desktop, but its your call
[07:52] <wariskampar> how do i remove program icon from main menu
[07:52] <HorizonXP> ActionParsnip1: I agree. And your suggestion for cvlc was a good one. but I'm not sure how to install JUST cvlc without having to install X.
[07:52] <myke> are you trying to run vlc from the console?
[07:52] <myke> i wouldn't
[07:53] <HorizonXP> ActionParsnip1: Yeah, I think that's what it boils down to.
[07:53] <ActionParsnip1> i gotta jet, work is getting frustrating, peace out kids
[07:53] <Titan8990> wariskampar, right click on the main menu -> edit menu
[07:53] <myke> it'll work but playback will be poor, you need the X server's hardware acceleration for smooth video playback
[07:53] <licky654> any ideas as to how i can continue?
[07:53] <HorizonXP> myke: I'm trying to use VLC to multicast media across a network. not playback on the local machine, it'd be a streaming server.
[07:53] <ZacDavis> licky654: nope
[07:54] <myke> HorizonXP: wouldn't you want video lan server (not client) ?
[07:54] <chris_> !dontzap
[07:54] <HorizonXP> myke: it's all within VLC.
[07:54] <TehFlash> hello
[07:54] <licky654> is that not normal for a usb install?
[07:55] <TehFlash> i installed xchat
[07:56] <licky654> am i doing something wrong
[07:56] <felix_> vdkbuilder2 does not open: http://paste.ubuntu.com/177731/
[07:56] <wariskampar> thanks titan8990
[07:57]  * Soren_ is silent like a ninja
[07:57] <felix_> Hi Soren_
[07:57] <Titan8990> wariskampar, np
[07:57] <Soren_> hi
[07:57] <shadeslayer> hi i cant seem to update..its stuck at 0% [Connecting to 192.168.9.244 (192.168.9.244)] [Connecting to 192.168.9.244  for the past 10 min
[07:57] <felix_> everything OK?
[07:58] <Soren_> laptop is also silent like a ninja
[07:58] <TehFlash> i used the drop down menu to add chat feature, but when i used command line for aptitude python doesnt appear in menu now like the xchat
[07:58] <Soren_> seems good
[07:58] <Soren_> ty
[07:58] <TehFlash> how do i know if it is installed
[07:58] <Soren_> ty ty ty ty
[07:58] <Patrique> how can i execute a script only after i get connected to the internet?
[07:59] <felix_> shadeslayer, open software origins, download from "other" and click Select best location
[07:59] <muse> type python and it shouold enter into the interactive prompt
[07:59] <shadeslayer> felix_: yeah..already on that ;)
[07:59] <TehFlash> thank you
[07:59] <licky654> is keeps trying to detect and mount the cdrom drive even though im using a usb flash drive
[07:59] <muse> np
[08:00] <felix_> i helped a lot of people tonite but no one could help me in any problem :(
[08:00] <muse> licky654: have you edited your fstab at all?
[08:00] <Titan8990> Patrique, set it up to execute on a higher run level than networking would be an easy way to do it
[08:00] <shadeslayer> btw has anyone got the Gaia 08 theme to work on ubuntu?
[08:00] <Soren_> felix, I can
[08:00] <felix_> lol
[08:00] <felix_> xD
[08:00] <muse> felix_: I find that all the time :(
[08:00] <Soren_> sttop smoking, get gum or the patch
[08:00]  * Soren_ is VERY helpful
[08:01] <shadeslayer> felix_: haha , no suitable location found :P
[08:01] <Patrique> and how do i know what's the run level of networking?
[08:01] <felix_> shadeslayer, thats odd
[08:01] <licky654> muse: do you mean fstab on the usb?
[08:01] <shadeslayer> felix_: i think i know where to find the problem...one sec
[08:02] <felix_> i dont know why you have connectivity to irc but no to any ubuntu server shadeslayer
[08:02] <shadeslayer> felix_: proxy settings are set to my workplace....im at home ;)
[08:02] <muse> licky654: no? pastebin your /etc/fstab.
[08:03] <shadeslayer> felix_: working now...thanks anyways
[08:03] <Soren_> felix, ty again
[08:03] <felix_> shadeslayer, my pleasure
[08:03] <Soren_> get some sleep
[08:03] <licky654> muse: from the installer shell?
[08:03] <shadeslayer> felix_: whats your problem btw?
[08:03] <maxagaz> how to have the list of the different commands provided by the package xpdf-common ?
[08:04] <Patrique> Titan8990: i found /etc/rc3.d/S50NetworkManager this is my network?
[08:04] <muse> licky654: nvm there is noway that you edited your fstab :)
[08:04] <Titan8990> maxagaz, dpkg -S xpdf-common
[08:04] <Titan8990> maxagaz, echo $PATH
[08:04] <Titan8990> Patrique, /etc/init.d/networking
[08:04] <shadeslayer> can i scan a windows drive on a seprate laptop from ubuntu using avast?
[08:05] <licky654> muse: then why would it keep looking for a cd-rom? i though usb install was pretty standard]
[08:05] <Elone> anyone can inspire me that how do i make ubuntu box to have function of router or ICS?
[08:05] <Titan8990> shadeslayer, if you could, it wouldn't be able to scan things such as registry keys
[08:05] <muse> Elone: ebox
[08:05] <muse> well that what I use
[08:05] <Kalmi> Elone, Network Manager has sharing functions
[08:05] <Titan8990> shadeslayer, which is why you would typically scan from safe mode, if you can't even get in to safe mode, reformat
[08:05] <maxagaz> how to know to which package does a command belong to ?
[08:06] <Titan8990> shadeslayer, you can see #windows for more info
[08:06] <Titan8990> maxagaz, apt-get install apt-file
[08:06] <felix_> shadeslayer, 1º vdkbuilder2 does not launch: http://paste.ubuntu.com/177731/ ; 2º problem with gpg keys http://paste.ubuntu.com/177743/
[08:06] <Patrique> Titan8990: how do i set my script too be run after this one then?
[08:06] <muse> licky654: they are pretty standard.. but I don't have much problems with them so I don't know how to fix it when they aren't working
[08:07] <shadeslayer> Titan8990: cant it be done via samba?? registry keys are not a problem
[08:07] <jonathon_> anyone know any low end muitplayer games for ubuntu
[08:07] <pintook> byeeeeeeeeeee
[08:07] <shadeslayer> !games > jonathon_
[08:07] <jonathon_> ohh thxs
[08:07] <licky654> muse: how do you create your usb installs? maybe i did it incorrectly.
[08:08] <Titan8990> shadeslayer, are you sure they are not a problem?? thats where malware keeps a lot of its bad stuff
[08:08] <shadeslayer> licky654: they are done via the USB installed
[08:08] <Elone> Kaimi, hmmmm how i don't see it
[08:08] <shadeslayer> *installer
[08:08] <Titan8990> Patrique, try something like this: update-rc.d foobar start 30 2 3 4 5 . stop 70 0 1 6 .
[08:08] <Titan8990> Patrique, man update-rc.d
[08:08] <licky654> hmm, i downloaded the normal iso and used a tutorial to install it
[08:08] <ZacDavis> Do you want to install it onto your USB drive or install it from there?
[08:08] <shadeslayer> Titan8990: yeah...ill be scanning the system with avast and then via ubuntu...just to make double sure
[08:08] <muse> licky654: system > administrator > usb startup creator
[08:09] <Patrique> Titan8990: thx i'll take a look
[08:09] <X3> clamav via ubuntu rocks
[08:09] <Titan8990> shadeslayer, i really have to say.... cleaning an infected windows machine from ubuntu is not very effective
[08:09] <ZacDavis> yeah, it won't do much
[08:09] <Titan8990> shadeslayer, those A/Vs are primarly used to scan files BEFORE sending them to windows clients
[08:09] <Titan8990> shadeslayer, email and file server
[08:10] <X3> I did it more than once and always worked
[08:10] <X3> clamav kills the infected areas disabling the threat
[08:10] <rashed2020> Does PAM authentication mean the app uses the system's usernames and passwords?
[08:10] <shadeslayer> Titan8990: ok,got your point...but some of the viruses detected by ubuntu were not detected by avast on windows
[08:10] <Soren__> youtube wanted a flashplayer, adobe gave me the file, but I go t a popup saying it was old and not supported
[08:10] <licky654> muse: does that just iuse the current install to create a disk or can i allocate an iso
[08:11] <muse> licky654: you have to have an iso to use it
[08:11] <Kalmi> Soren__,  sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[08:11] <Titan8990> shadeslayer, malwarebytes anti-malware has been by far the most effective tool for me
[08:11] <Soren__> ty
[08:11] <X3> shadeslayer, Like I said clamav does do a good job though theres no 100% perfect solution to any AV's
[08:11] <kilior> sudo modprobe ipv6
[08:11] <kilior> FATAL: Module ipv6 not found
[08:11] <shadeslayer> Titan8990: ill keep that in mind
[08:12] <Titan8990> kilior, modprobe -l  will list all available modules
[08:12] <licky654> there is no usb startup creator under admin
[08:12] <shadeslayer> X3: true....but i have avast installed as well ;)
[08:12] <X3> from windows I have to say norton anti bot (please dont flame me) does a great job on running tasks
[08:13] <muse> licky654: what release ubuntu do you have
[08:13] <Titan8990> kilior, would be willing to bet ipv6 is built in to the kernel and not compiled as a module
[08:13] <licky654> 9.04
[08:13] <histo> !flash | shadeslayer
[08:13] <shadeslayer> histo: ??
[08:13] <licky654> i want to remove it, and install 8.04 via usb
[08:13] <histo> shadeslayer: whoops wrong person though you where talking bout flash
[08:13] <shadeslayer> licky654: i dont think 8.04 has support for USB
[08:13] <histo> !flash > Soren__
[08:14] <X3> shadeslayer, well each person uses whatever av they prefer best I never used avast on my machines and the solutions I use coupled with the tricks I use works pretty well
[08:14] <muse> licky654: it should be there? Look again.
[08:14] <TheNano> ubottu: How do I creat bootable usb
[08:14] <Soren_> what did I do wrong, now? ""/home/greg/Desktop/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso could not be saved, because the source file could not be read Try again later, or contact the server administrator."
[08:14] <kilior> I find CONFIG_IPV6=y in /boot/config....
[08:14] <Kalmi> rmmod ipv6
[08:14] <Kalmi> ERROR: Module ipv6 does not exist in /proc/modules
[08:14] <histo> !usb > TheNano
[08:14] <Soren_> I do not see a PM
[08:14] <histo> !flash | Soren_
[08:15] <X3> shadeslayer, I rename the guest account and the descriptions as admin account and lock and disable it and the admin account is guest
[08:15] <Soren_> offline mode
[08:15] <licky654> muse: it's not there
[08:15] <X3> any trojan will alwasys look for admin rights
[08:15] <X3> or virus whatever
[08:16] <muse> !usb > licky654
[08:16] <kilior> I want enable ipv6 tunnel in 9.04. it can't work,but it works in fc10.
[08:16] <shadeslayer> X3: pretty confusing...
[08:16] <TheNano> licky654: you have seen https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[08:16] <shadeslayer> anyone get the gaia theme for ubuntu??
[08:17] <X3> since they find the admin account which is really a renamed pass protected and decription as admin account it cant proceed
[08:17] <X3> I bet you knew that anyways
[08:17] <X3> brb
[08:18] <ubuntu_> hola a todos
[08:18] <muse> licky654: installing usb-creator is the next step if you don't have it in your menu.. I didn't know what the name of the package was until I read the above linked page
[08:19] <shadeslayer> !info usb-creator | licky654
[08:20] <kilior> ......
[08:20] <ZacDavis> man, trying to get ubuntu to natively use windows shit is a pain
[08:20] <muse> that's why I don't do it? :P
[08:21] <muse> licky654: why do you want to downgrade to 8.04 anyway?
[08:21] <coz_> ZacDavis,  which windows stuff?
[08:21] <ZacDavis> coz_: oh, everything
[08:22] <ZacDavis> .net, directx
[08:22] <Titan8990> ZacDavis, thats why you should use linux apps in linux
[08:22] <ZacDavis> lol
[08:22] <ZacDavis> im just trying something
[08:22] <Titan8990> ZacDavis, if you need directx and .net, use windows....
[08:22] <coz_> ZacDavis,  well its not really possible to make it run natively unless you recode it  but you can use wine  or crossover office
[08:22] <muse> huh? directx in linux?
[08:22] <TheNano> ZacDavis: you can make .net work , by wine scripts, but not directx
[08:22] <superfly__> nope
[08:22] <Titan8990> ZacDavis, and btw, the linux implementation of .net is called mono
[08:22] <ZacDavis> no, I'm trying to code it into the system
[08:23] <ryanprior> muse: Wine has a DirectX implementation for Linux. It's not great for performance yet, but it can run lots of DirectX apps.
[08:23] <coz_> ZacDavis,  well again you would have to completely rewrite it
[08:23] <ZacDavis> i know
[08:23] <Titan8990> I personally don't understand the reason for making linux behave like windows
[08:23] <kilior> if ipv6 is  built in kernel, why can't enable ipv6 tunnel?
[08:23] <coz_> ZacDavis,  oh ok :)
[08:23] <Soren_> flash still not working for FireFox
[08:23] <Titan8990> anyone care to explain?
[08:23] <muse> ryanprior: hm.. I was not aware..
[08:23] <coz_> Titan8990,  I have no idea
[08:23] <ZacDavis> it's not the "behave-like"
[08:23] <ZacDavis> it's the "I neeeeeed outlook fags"
[08:23] <coz_> Titan8990,  I dont see the appeal myself other than i personally would like a few apps made only for windows run onlinux
[08:24] <stuk_gen> hi,
[08:24] <stuk_gen> can anybody help me with problem with wget?
[08:24] <muse> ZacDavis: try virtualbox?
[08:24] <ryanprior> muse: They just started DirectX 10 compliance efforts. DirectX 9 is getting pretty close to completion. There's a lot to do performance-wise, but they're always making small improvements there.
[08:24] <superfly__> install medibuntu repos and install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[08:24] <coz_> ZacDavis,  do you even know what that last statement means?
[08:24] <Soren_> flash is still not working for FireFox
[08:24] <coz_> stuk_gen,  not sure what is the problem
[08:24] <puremichael> hi. i've got a very high load (>5) during file copy operations, but the cpu only is at <10% - anything wrong configured?
[08:24] <ryanprior> ZacDavis: Abusive language is not tolerated here. Please keep in mind that we are volunteers.
[08:24] <licky654> now when i try to create a usb startup it says unable to determine the partition number!
[08:24] <ZacDavis> what last statement?
[08:24] <ZacDavis> oh okay sorry
[08:24] <Na1386> #ubuntu
[08:25] <Titan8990> puremichael, copy operations are typically bottlenecked at the rw speed of the drive, not the CPU
[08:25] <coz_> stuk_gen,  what are you trying to download? link?
[08:25] <ZacDavis> basically, a couple of people i know want to migrate to linux with the exception of typing anything in a command line ever
[08:25] <ZacDavis> and outlook
[08:26] <Soren_> youtube - flash plugin is still not working for FireFox
[08:26] <puremichael> Titan8990, but should if affect the whole system so that almost nothing reacts to input?
[08:26] <ZacDavis> so I'm trying to get ubuntu to basically run it out of the box
[08:26] <coz_> ZacDavis,  well things like outlook and office can be run with wine or crossover office
[08:26] <stuk_gen> coz_: the problem is...i want downaload some file contain in the directory, i use wget -m url/folder but wget create a inde.html for every folder and icon...i want only file contain in that folder how ?
[08:26] <Titan8990> ZacDavis, they don't really need outlooks unless the need some groupware specific features from an exchange server
[08:26] <shadeslayer> Soren_: did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras ??
[08:26] <ZacDavis> they use exchange
[08:26] <ryanprior> Titan8990: If you want really fast copy operations, you should use a ramdisk or copy-on-write or something.
[08:26] <coz_> stuk_gen,  do you have a link for that?
[08:26] <ZacDavis> is crossover free?
[08:26] <coz_> stuk_gen,  or am I missunderstanding
[08:27] <Titan8990> ZacDavis, MUAs like evolution and thunderbird can still interact with the POP, IMAP, and SMTP implementations of exchange
[08:27] <Soren_> shadeslayer: how
[08:27] <ryanprior> ZacDavis: Crossover is not free but it's reasonably priced. Evolution is also Exchange-compatible.
[08:27] <muse> ryanprior: last time I tried wine I could get like 1 game working.. and it was the one that they were showing to have had working.. the rest took weeks to get running at reasonable speeds. Prehaps I should give it a try again.
[08:27] <shadeslayer> Soren_: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[08:27] <coz_> ZacDavis,  not ususually but you can get the lame duck  release which is free for one day but it is avaiable in torrent download
[08:27] <Soren_> yess, but I will try again
[08:27] <shadeslayer> !info ubuntu-restricted-extras | Soren_
[08:27] <Titan8990> puremichael, if it is maxing the rw speed of the drive, possibly
[08:28] <ryanprior> muse: Check out their AppDB. People maintain progress reports on all kinds of software and you can get tips on how to get better performance many times, whether it's file tweaks or registry tweaks or using a few native DLLs or whatever.
[08:28] <puremichael> hmm
[08:28] <ZacDavis> ryanprior: I'll have to test evolution for exchange, some people are so set in their ways, though, so IDK.
[08:28] <puremichael> 10mb/s don't seem to be maximun ;-)
[08:28] <stuk_gen> coz: explain....in a server i have folder this contain file1 and file2....i want have the exact copy of folder in my pc...but if i try wget -m urlsite/folder, wget create folder/file1 file2 and index.html and folder icon
[08:28] <coz_> ZacDavis,   I might have it here hold on
[08:28] <TheNano> ZacDavis: It is not that expensive and works fine for your need, they should buy it I spouse,
[08:28] <Titan8990> ZacDavis, if they are set in there ways, they probably won't adopt linux very well
[08:28] <muse> ryanprior: hmm.. does it compare to running on windows directly yet?
[08:28] <ryanprior> ZacDavis: If your employees are absolutely set in their ways, you either need to give them the software they're familiar with or fire them. >.>
[08:29] <Titan8990> ZacDavis, I don't care what anyone says, Linux is a 'niche' distro that is not enjoyed by everyone
[08:29] <ZacDavis> not my employees^
[08:29] <Soren_> looks a bit different this time. ty
[08:29] <rashed2020> Guys, is does PAM Authentication mean the application I'm using can use the system's usernames and passwords?
[08:29] <shadeslayer> ZacDavis: something for you to oogle at ;) http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Who+Needs+Windows+7+%3F?content=105399
[08:29] <Titan8990> rashed2020, yes, if that is how PAM is configured (default)
[08:30] <ryanprior> muse: With some programs it's great. At times, benchmarkers have reported better CS:Source performance on Wine than on Windows. For many programs (including my favorite, Warcraft 3) the DirectX performance is lousy. Luckily for me, Warcraft 3 also has an OpenGL rendering mode.
[08:30] <rashed2020> Titan8990: So if ejabberd uses PAM authentication, that means I don't have to create and maintain another set of usernames?
[08:30] <unikon> speaking of virtualbox would i be able to keep xp running in virtualbox without having to  restart it everytime
[08:30] <Titan8990> rashed2020, correct
[08:30] <rashed2020> Great, thanks.
[08:30] <oladejo> hello
[08:30] <ryanprior> unikon: Trick question, XP needs to be restarted all the time anyhow.
[08:30] <X3> which xchat versin can I get for jaunty that has the perform options atm I have what on synaptic
[08:31] <shadeslayer> X3: get irssi...its awesome
[08:31] <X3> but theres no gui
[08:31] <muse> ryanakca: maybe I should give it a try again.. I personally like diablo2 and gta3.. :D but we are now getting ot.
[08:31] <ryanprior> X3: I'm a fan of Chatzilla.
[08:31] <unikon> ugh like reinstalling everytime right ryanprior
[08:31] <llf> hi
[08:31] <Titan8990> chatzilla is terribad
[08:31] <stuk_gen> coz: explain....in a server i have folder this contain file1 and file2....i want have the exact copy of folder in my pc...but if i try wget -m urlsite/folder, wget create folder/file1 file2 and index.html and folder icon i wouldnt this index.html and icon folder generate from wget...how can i resolve?
[08:31] <Titan8990> its only good in a pinch IMO
[08:32] <X3> shadeslayer,  is there a gui for irssi
[08:32] <shadeslayer> X3: who needs it?? youll fall in love with it once you start using it
[08:32] <ryanprior> X3: The GUI is called a virtual terminal.
[08:32] <shadeslayer> X3: fortunately no ;)
[08:32] <X3> meh thats the problem I wouldnt even know where to start
[08:32] <ryanprior> X3: Quassel is becoming popular among people who like nice GUI clients, though.
[08:32] <Titan8990> X3, irssi is very well documented
[08:32] <shadeslayer> X3: quite simple actually.../connect <server> and thats it
[08:32] <mne> Hi. I'm still on ubuntu intrepid. Last night I installed the latest upgrade and now audacious is looking strange and is unuseable. With "strange" I mean that it has a large bar over its user-interface that shouldn't be there
[08:32] <Titan8990> X3, I only use it for when I ssh home to get on IRC though, xchat otherwise
[08:32] <coz_> ZacDavis,  try this   http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/132551/install-crossover-pro-7.1.0.sh
[08:33] <X3> well I found a xhat version a while back that had everything but Icant findit anymore
[08:33] <ZacDavis> coz_: k
[08:34] <coz_> ZacDavis,  I assume you know how to run that?
[08:34] <X3> Titan8990,  yea but my jaunty synaptic xchat has not perform actionss when connect etc
[08:34] <ryanprior> muse: If you'd like to discuss gaming, feel free to join me in #ubuntu-gaming :-)
[08:34] <ZacDavis> coz_: yes, lol
[08:34] <Titan8990> X3, such as?
[08:34] <X3> identify
[08:34] <X3> ghost
[08:34] <coz_> ZacDavis,  is that downloaded already? i want to delete it
[08:34] <X3> the ususals
[08:34] <ryanprior> X3: lern 2 irc
[08:35] <Titan8990> X3, should be network list -> edit
[08:35] <X3> lemme lpook
[08:35] <ZacDavis> coz_: yeah, i got it
[08:35] <muse> ryanprior: ha.. I didn't even know there was a #ubuntu-gaming. :) maybe some other time... Im actually supposed to be doing some work.
[08:35] <unikon>  what other options are there besides http://www.virtualbox.org/ for linux
[08:35] <ryanprior> muse: Okay, see you around.
[08:35] <X3> is is what a dumb ass I am sometimes
[08:35] <X3> lol
[08:35] <jim4ever> 大家好
[08:36] <Titan8990> ryanprior, can't say its not a PITA to change nick, identify, and join 5 channels without an application or irssi script
[08:36] <muse> ok cheers
[08:36] <peaches> whats the process name of the Add/Remove program to run it from command line?
[08:36] <ryanprior> Titan8990: Every IRC client worth using is scriptable to some degree.
[08:36] <shadeslayer> !cn | jim4ever
[08:36] <Kalmi> X3, Titan8990: what you are looking for xchat-gnome
[08:36] <Boohbah> Titan8990: it's very easy to autojoin and auto-identify in irssi
[08:37] <Titan8990> Kalmi, the version without gnome support also has it, its just located differently
[08:37] <X3> kalmi not using the gnome froontend
[08:37] <A_dan> ubottu: is bot?
[08:37] <jim4ever> ubottu: thank you
[08:37] <jim4ever> shadeslayer: thanks
[08:37] <shadeslayer> jim4ever: no problem
[08:38] <shadeslayer> arghh.... i hate it when i cant find the icon theme
[08:39] <jim4ever> my english is poor,but I have a question
[08:39] <X3> shadeslayer,  your the guy from xbmc?
[08:39] <shadeslayer> does anyone here have a icon theme for gaia??
[08:39] <Munim> jim4ever, give it a shot. practise makes perfect :)
[08:39] <shadeslayer> X3: you mean #iquik?? yes..
[08:39] <X3> I have a massive icon theme for all sorts but its massive on lappy
[08:39] <X3> lol
[08:39] <ZacDavis> why do i get command not found
[08:39] <X3> yea
[08:40] <shadeslayer> X3: massive on an XPS.....your kidding right ;)
[08:40] <X3> durh my brain is mash
[08:40] <Titan8990> ZacDavis, you are A) running a command that doesn't exist B) running a command not in your $PATH C) spelled it wrong
[08:40] <degot> Hi, all. How can i find the reason, why my ubuntu-server suddenly turned off?   P.S. Sorry for my bad English
[08:40] <Kalmi> Titan8990, I didn't know that... thanks... I was always joining channels manually :)
[08:40] <ZacDavis> i'll go with C
[08:40] <shadeslayer> degot: system logs
[08:40] <Titan8990> Kalmi, np :)
[08:41] <jim4ever> I delele the  directory /var/lib/dpkg/,What must I do now ?
[08:41] <ryanprior> degot: Plenty readable, no problem. Read your system logs for clues. If you want to show some logs to us for more help, use !pastebin.
[08:41] <X3> you know I still cant find anyone with the time to do the linux framwork to get xbmc on laptops replacing dell media direct nd things like hp quickplay etc
[08:41] <X3> that project is on hold hold
[08:41] <degot> ryanprior: syslog shows nothing
[08:41] <Titan8990> jim4ever, why would you do that?
[08:41] <Munim> degot, did it just turn off or did the system crash with some errors?
 : there is nothing in syslog
[08:42] <shadeslayer> X3: not even in #xpud?? unfourtunately im still in the learning curve :)
[08:42] <ryanprior> degot: Okay. Is this crash reproducible in any way? Does it happen every few hours?
[08:42] <degot> just turned off without any errors
[08:42] <X3> xpud is not suitable
[08:42] <X3> minimum gentoo
[08:42] <degot> it happend twice  during last month
[08:42] <stuk_gen> mmm i think there isnt a solution to dont create a inde.html icon folder...i have delete theme manually after...:(
[08:43] <shadeslayer> X3: theyre going to kiick us for being ot
[08:43] <ZacDavis> Titan8990: C was correct
[08:43] <Titan8990> ZacDavis, :)
[08:43] <Munim> degot, if you computer just turned off, you probably have a hardware problem
[08:43] <X3> join #iQuik
[08:43] <Titan8990> ZacDavis, you can use tab completion for commands, helps not to spell things wrong
[08:44] <X3> well in fact we not completly ot we talking about finding help in a linux matter
[08:44] <Munim> degot, i suggest checking your computer's power supply and cooling systems.
[08:44] <Titan8990> X3, #linux
[08:44] <ryanprior> degot: Is a heat issue or connection issue possible? Do you have a good power supply?
[08:44] <degot> Munim: i don`t think so.. because before 9.04 , i`ve used 8.10 ... and uptime was 3 months on the same hardware
[08:44] <jim4ever> because my apt-get locked，and I want to remove /var/lib/dpkg/lock,But I made a mistake
[08:44] <Titan8990> X3, plenty of OT flies there too....
[08:44] <Titan8990> jim4ever, that is there for a reason, so you don't run multiple instances of the package manager
[08:44] <Munim> degot, so the problem starting occuring right after you upgraded to 9.04?
[08:45] <EmeryT> Hi all. I have problem with web browsters (Ubuntu 9.04). My cpu is Sempron 2800+ (1,8 GHz) and when i open flash game or something at YT  my cpu usage is about 100%. Can anybody solve this problem?
[08:45] <Munim> EmeryT, what flash player do you use?
[08:45] <shadeslayer> any idea on a tool to create a icon theme ??
[08:45] <ryanprior> EmeryT: Flash is very buggy and there's not much we can do. Sorry.
[08:45] <degot> Munim: yes, i think .. i`ve made clean install of 9.04  month ago
[08:45] <Titan8990> jim4ever, guessing aptitude is not working at all now?
[08:45] <EmeryT> ah
[08:45] <jim4ever> yes ， I kown ，and I
[08:45] <ryanprior> shadeslayer: in #ubuntu-artwork we use The GIMP and Inkscape
[08:45] <EmeryT> its no good
[08:46] <ZacDavis> Titan8990: I missed some capitalization.
[08:46] <Munim> degot, hmm. still.. chances are you have a hardware problem. there could be some issue with 9.04 too.. but i can't help you. sorry.
[08:46] <|ntegra|> I'm reading http://www.ubuntugeek.com/tip-getting-your-webcam-to-work-in-ubuntu.html and have followed the instructions there with no luck , what would you do to get this webcam working? , lsmod http://paste.ubuntu.com/177763/ dmesg http://paste.ubuntu.com/177765/
[08:46] <Titan8990> jim4ever, try running apt-get update
[08:46] <ryanprior> EmeryT: Some Flash programs run in the Gnash plugin, but it is incomplete and so many Flash apps will not run.
[08:47] <Munim> EmeryT, you can try the non-free flash plugin from Adobe. thats less buggy
[08:47] <ryanprior> |ntegra|: To be honest, the best solution is usually buying a new webcam known to work well with Ubuntu.
[08:47] <degot> Thx
[08:47] <ryanprior> |ntegra|: Webcams are notoriously poorly supported.
[08:47] <hskill> does gnome-terminal use the terminfo db to get it's color information?
[08:47] <EmeryT> ok munim and ryan thx:D
[08:47] <jim4ever> Titan8990: I do that , But still the same
[08:47] <|ntegra|> ryanprior: no chance of that
[08:48] <Titan8990> jim4ever, what kind of error are you getting?
[08:48] <shadeslayer> ryanprior: mine is working....
[08:48] <Yuri_N> Hi all, I'm still running FeistyFawn, and need to install one package, however package binaries for FeistyFawn are gone...  Do you know if there are archives with old releases available?
[08:49] <ryanprior> |ntegra|: In that case, you should read through our webcam docs and see if you can find anything helpful.
[08:49] <pace_t_zulu> anyone know where i can get the icontool deb?
[08:49] <shadeslayer> Yuri_N: old releases have a different link
[08:49] <ryanprior> !webcam | |ntegra|
[08:49] <pace_t_zulu> !icontool
[08:49] <|ntegra|> shadeslayer: did it work out-of-the-box? did you have to make adjustments?
[08:49] <shadeslayer> Yuri_N: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/
[08:49] <shadeslayer> |ntegra|: out of the box
[08:49] <ryanprior> shadeslayer: Yeah, we've got a bunch that work now, but there are *so many* webcams out there that don't follow any kind of intelligible standard and have weird behaviours.
[08:49] <|ntegra|> woosh
[08:49] <Yuri_N> shadeslayer, thanks a lot!
[08:50] <shadeslayer> ryanprior: i think mine is a creative model..not sure though
[08:51] <unohu> how can i start my computer from latest ubuntu cd?
[08:51] <ryanprior> shadeslayer: I think Creative are usually pretty good with Linux support. X-Fi has been a nightmare, but we're finally seeing some improvement there as well.
[08:51] <|ntegra|> ...mine's "close" to working (from the looks of my lsusb, dmesg, and lsmod) but I'm pretty sure I'll have to reload/leave-out some module or other
[08:51] <shadeslayer> ryanprior: yeah some people are complaining about x-fi....
[08:51] <ryanprior> unohu: Download the latest ISO, burn it to the CD (using the special "burn ISO" method, not the normal method) and then reboot your computer with that CD in the drive.
[08:52] <Gamarok__> guys can any of you help me out here i am unable to use  any package manager heres the error http://paste.ubuntu.com/177769/
[08:52] <ryanprior> shadeslayer: I predict that we'll have x-fi support out of the box in either 9.10 or 10.04
[08:52] <shadeslayer> ryanprior: devel??
[08:52] <ikonia> Gamarok__: looks like you already have a session running
[08:52] <unohu> ryanprior: i have the latest iso..
[08:52] <ikonia> Gamarok__: how are you trying to open the package manager ?
[08:52] <unohu> ryanprior: then send me in mail
[08:52] <ZacDavis> Gamarok__: yeah, another program is using that
[08:53] <ZacDavis> Gamarok__: have you tried just rebooting?
[08:53] <ryanprior> unohu: Did you buy some CDs? Or request one from ShipIt?
[08:53] <unohu> ryanprior: shipit
[08:53] <shadeslayer> ikonia: !apt-fix ??
[08:53] <Gamarok__> guys i know we get this error when we try and launch anothe session but that's not the case i have even rebooted once
[08:53] <ikonia> shadeslayer: what ?
[08:54] <shadeslayer> ikonia: i meant giving Gamarok__ that factoid
[08:54] <ikonia> Gamarok__: ok thats fine, so it means something has a lock on it, did your machine crash
[08:54] <ikonia> shadeslayer: do what you feel is right to help someone
[08:54] <unohu> ryanprior: i install ubuntu, then windows.. now no unbuntu
[08:54] <ikonia> Gamarok__: or "has" your machine crashed or exited unexpectedly recently
[08:55] <livingdaylight> !hola Ubunteros!
[08:55] <shadeslayer> !aptfix | Gamarok__
[08:55] <Gamarok__> nope i just switched it after an update and this has been happening since then
[08:55] <ryanprior> unohu: Ah, yeah, Windows tends to install itself over Ubuntu or, at the least, screw up your boot loader.
[08:55] <livingdaylight> heard compiz has a wallpaper plugin that allows assigning of different wallpapers per workspace, anyone know how and where that's done?
[08:55] <ryanprior> !grub | unohu
[08:55] <Titan8990> livingdaylight, its inside ccsm
[08:55] <Titan8990> livingdaylight, called "wallpaper"
[08:55] <cyberjorge> anyone can help in calibrating my touchscreen in Xorg?
[08:55] <ikonia> Gamarok__: you just "switched it" - switched what ?
[08:55]  * livingdaylight thanks Titan8990 and goes in search
[08:56] <Titan8990> !ccsm | livingdaylight
[08:56] <Gamarok__> switched my pc off and the above fix did work thaks guys
[08:56] <shadeslayer> livingdaylight: ps you need to kill nautilus to get that working
[08:56] <Titan8990> livingdaylight, ccsm has a search utility built in so it shouldn't be too hard to find
[08:56] <livingdaylight> shadeslayer: kill nautilus? can you say more please
[08:56] <Titan8990> livingdaylight, also not sure about shadeslayer's comment, I used XFCE.....
[08:57] <shadeslayer> livingdaylight: you are trying to get 4 diff wallpaers right?
[08:57] <livingdaylight> Titan8990: found it
[08:57] <livingdaylight> shadeslayer: exactly
[08:57] <unohu> ryanprior: can i boot to ununtu install form livecd?
[08:57] <livingdaylight> shadeslayer: but not at the cost of nautilus
[08:57] <livingdaylight> shadeslayer: i kinda need nautilus, :p
[08:58] <shadeslayer> livingdaylight: well after you set the 4 wallpapers in ccsm open gconf-editor > apps > nautilus > pref > set desktop > uncheck it
[08:58] <Titan8990> livingdaylight, you could try replacing it with thunar, not sure how well that would work though
[08:58] <shadeslayer> livingdaylight: i meant kill it temporarily ;)
[08:58] <ryanprior> unohu: You sure can. Just reboot with the CD in the tray.
[08:59] <livingdaylight> shadeslayer: ok, why and more importantly how?
[08:59] <unohu> ryanprior: how ? it boots to livecd
[09:00] <shadeslayer> livingdaylight: just follow the things i said above gconf-editor > ... youll lose the icons on the desktop...but nautilus will run
[09:00] <ryanprior> unohu: there will be an "install" button on the desktop, and an "install" option in GRUB. However, you can probably follow the instructions Ubottu sent you to recover your existing Ubuntu install.
[09:00] <unohu> ryanprior: no...
[09:01] <unohu> ryanprior: i installed ubuntu already..
[09:01] <unohu> ryanprior: i dont want grub
[09:01] <unohu> ryanprior: i want boot to existing install from cd
[09:01] <Wicks_> ubuntuers: anyone know how to change the grub menu at the start of a liveusb? (livecd)
[09:01] <|ntegra|> unohu: you NEED grub
[09:01] <ryanprior> unohu: Grub is a system loader which lets you boot Ubuntu or Windows. When Windows installed, it probably wiped out Grub. To get your extant install back, you may need to configure grub again.
[09:02] <tank-man> you can use lilo as an alternative
[09:02] <unohu> ryanprior: cant the livecd boot into existing install ?
[09:02] <ryanprior> unohu: You can't boot to an existing install from the CD, the CD just lets you boot to a Live desktop.
[09:02] <unohu> ryanprior: are you sure ?
[09:02] <ryanprior> unohu: Positive.
[09:02] <unohu> ryanprior: you are wrong
[09:03] <tank-man> lol
[09:03] <gaelfx1> hey, how do I set it up so that my computer doesn't go to screensaver while I'm using flash?
[09:03] <unohu> ryanprior: i seen people boot existing system from livecd
[09:04] <ozzmosis> gaelfx1: Flash should probably be disabling the screensaver, like mplayer does
[09:04] <tank-man> boot from harddrive on boot menu -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=mainboot.png
[09:04] <ryanprior> unohu: The CD contains a read-only live Ubuntu image, and when you install it copies most of that image to your hard drive. That is the "installed" copy. When you boot from the CD, you get a desktop that is similar to the installed copy, but it is not on your hard drive and is read-only.
[09:04] <gaelfx1> ozzmosis: I'm trying to watch something in flash right now, but it keeps going to screensaver
[09:04] <ozzmosis> gaelfx1: complain to Adobe, I guess
[09:05] <ryanprior> unohu: You can mount your hard drive as read-write from a live desktop and access files from your existing system. That is a common strategy for recovering broken systems.
[09:05] <myke> gaelfx1: disable screensaver
[09:05] <ozzmosis> gaelfx1: unless you've already disabled the screensaver and it's still turning on ?
[09:05] <unohu> ryanprior: so you say cant boot to exising from cd ?
[09:05] <tank-man> unohu -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=mainboot.png
[09:05] <ryanprior> unohu: Nope, the only way to boot from an installed system is to boot from the hard drive.
[09:05] <unohu> ryanprior: you are wrong...
[09:06] <ozzmosis> ryanprior: I thought there's a "Boot from first hard drive" option on the first menu of the install CD
[09:06] <ozzmosis> in fact that screenshot proves it
[09:06] <Paddy_EIRE> ozzmosis: that is not what you think
[09:06] <ryanprior> ozzmosis: Sure, but if he doesn't have Grub installed, that'll just launch into Windows.
[09:06] <dupondje> Somebody has any id why the max volume in ubuntu is way lower then it was before in windows ?
[09:06] <tank-man> then try maybe the other options at the bottom
[09:07] <mikechelen> dupondje, check if other sliders such as pcm audio are set low
[09:07] <Paddy_EIRE> ozzmosis: that is simply to tell it not to boot from the cd and to continue booting the first hard drive.. you still need a working bootloader
[09:07] <ryanprior> ozzmosis: What that says is "don't use the CD to boot", so when you choose that option, you are electing not to boot from the CD>
[09:07] <X3> dupondje, maybe your audio drivers
[09:07] <Paddy_EIRE> !grub | ozzmosis
[09:07] <overrider> I am trying to create a live ubuntu install using the http://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-ubuntu-904-persistent-install-windows/ Guide; but when wanting to boot, it just says cannot find kernel image. There is not much to do wrong so, could it be that some USB sticks simply hate booting?
[09:07] <Paddy_EIRE> !usb | overrider
[09:08] <unohu> ryanprior: so you are sure cant boot to existing install from cd ?
[09:08] <Paddy_EIRE> overrider: try and use officially supported documentation
[09:08] <tank-man> you have to pass kernel options from the livecd like root=/dev/sda5 or whatever to boot from the drive without grub
[09:08] <unohu> tank-man: yes...
[09:09] <dupondje> mikechelen:  they are @ max :(
[09:09] <ryanprior> unohu: The CD gives you the option to boot into a live system. If you choose not to boot into the live system, it will use the hard drive to boot, and if Windows has installed its own boot loader, you won't be able to boot into your installed Ubuntu system.
[09:09] <dupondje> X3: any way to fix them ?
[09:09] <X3> anyone recommend any good 3rd party sources for jaunty
[09:09] <unohu> tank-man: but why does ubunthu hode that option ?
[09:09] <ryanprior> unohu: In order to recover the ability to boot into your installed Ubuntu system, you need to follow the instructions to set up GRUB again.
[09:09] <unohu> *hide
[09:09] <Guest24135> hi..
[09:09] <unohu> ryanprior: you are wrong
[09:09] <ryanprior> Guest24135: Welcome.
[09:09] <tank-man> maybe cause you have to type it cause it is custom for each system
[09:09] <unohu> ryanprior: tank-man is right
[09:09] <Guest24135> need to completely uninstall pulse audio and replace with Alsa..
[09:09] <mikechelen> dupondje, are there any additional sliders to enable? this varies by sound card
[09:09] <Guest24135> Anybody help?
[09:09] <Guest24135> using Ubuntu Jaunty
[09:10] <tank-man> every one might have different partition setup
[09:10] <X3> dupondje, depends on you OS depends on the drivers look at control panel check is everything is working fine and you not uncheked sommint
[09:10] <Guest24135> playback in cinelerra doesn't produce any sound
[09:10] <mechdave> !ask | Guest24135
[09:10] <ryanprior> unohu: I didn't know you could do that. Pretty neat. I guess it uses the LiveCD's grub to launch the rest of the boot process.
[09:10] <ozzmosis> ryanprior: you're making it sound like you need GRUB installed to boot Ubuntu, which doesn't sound right to me.
[09:10] <unohu> tank-man: right.. but why dont they give a boot options line ?
[09:10] <dupondje> Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[09:10] <mikechelen> Guest24135, is it possible to tell cinelerra to use a different sound system?
[09:10] <dupondje> its not that is a crap audio card ;)
[09:10] <Paddy_EIRE> ozzmosis: well not having grub installed is like trying to ice skate uphill
[09:10] <Guest24135> yes
[09:11] <Guest24135> ESound
[09:11] <ryanprior> ozzmosis: Well, if you're using tank-man's method, you're still using Grub, just a Live GRUB rather than an installed one.
[09:11] <ZacDavis> Paddy_EIRE: no
[09:11] <Kenubuntu> hi all
[09:11] <tank-man> unohu, im not currently a ubuntu user so I dont know what is or isnt on the live cd
[09:11] <Guest24135> But it is not outputting sound..
[09:11] <Paddy_EIRE> ZacDavis: yes
[09:11] <Guest24135> any type of driver is not producing any sound..
[09:11] <X3> Guest24135, try a dif decoder
[09:11] <Kenubuntu> i need help how to uninstall bacula
[09:11] <ryanprior> ozzmosis: Any boot loader can load Ubuntu, even the Windows boot loader, but you've got to have some sort of loader.
[09:11] <mikechelen> Guest24135, try asking in #cinelerra or check out ubuntu studio edition
[09:11] <dupondje> everything is just @ max :(
[09:11] <Guest24135> i just want to completly remove pulse audio
[09:12] <Paddy_EIRE> ryanprior: some people take a while for this to sink in
[09:12] <mikechelen> dupondje, are there additional sliders to enable?
[09:12] <Guest24135> and use alsa as sound driver.
[09:12] <Guest24135> then it will definitly work
[09:12] <ryanprior> Guest24135: That's probably not necessary. You can just switch your sound system to ALSA instead.
[09:12] <Guest24135> how to do that?
[09:12] <dupondje> mikechelen:  enabled them :p
[09:12] <ryanprior> Paddy_EIRE: I'm feeling pretty patient. ;-)
[09:12] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[09:13] <Guest24135> switching sound to alsa in cinelerra is also isn't working
[09:13] <oladejo> kenubuntu: on what OS ?platform
[09:13] <simion314> hi, where can i change the window behaviour  when double clicking the title bar and using compiz, in wich section in ccsm?
[09:13] <ryanprior> Guest24135: System -> Preferences -> Sound works for me
[09:14] <Guest24135> there i couldn't find mixer for alsa
[09:14] <Paddy_EIRE> simion314: ccsm is not a window decorator and does not control title bar click events
[09:14] <gaelfx1> if you would rather use ALSA than Pulse, maybe you should try setting up your own Arch system
[09:14] <ryanprior> Paddy_EIRE: ccsm is the interface you use to edit Compiz's behaviour, though.
[09:14] <Paddy_EIRE> simion314: if you wish more options then you must change your decorator to emerald
[09:14] <dupondje> lets try something :) brb
[09:15] <Paddy_EIRE> ryanprior: yeah I have a feeling he is trying to make it shade the window
[09:15] <mikechelen> Guest24135, maybe try http://idyllictux.wordpress.com/2009/04/21/ubuntu-904-jaunty-keeping-the-beast-pulseaudio-at-bay/ although it might be easier to change some cinelerra config
[09:15] <Paddy_EIRE> ryanprior: which compiz cannot do
[09:15] <ubuntu_> I installed fglrx drivers and now my system won't boot. How do I disable X start-up so I can uninstall it?
[09:15] <ryanprior> Paddy_EIRE: That is not true, Emerald's code was merged into Compiz and Emerald is now antequated (except for a new off-shoot that's not mature yet)
[09:15] <simion314> Paddy_EIRE: : i have emerald, i will search its option then
[09:15] <Paddy_EIRE> ryanprior: not on jaunty mate
[09:16] <ryanprior> Paddy_EIRE: The shading thing might be left out of Compiz, I'll trust you on that one; but going back to a buggy Emerald WM is probably not worth it IMHO.
[09:16] <Paddy_EIRE> ryanprior: if you locate the option to shade windows in compiz then please share it with the rest of us ;)
 opening alsa mixer shows me some error like alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[09:17] <Paddy_EIRE> ryanprior: and I agree emerald is just plain buggy
[09:17] <Guest24135> mikechelen opening alsa mixer shows me some error like alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[09:17] <ryanprior> Paddy_EIRE: I'm not an expert on all the plugins, but I'd imagine that if shading was part of Emerald, it's probably part of the optional Fusion plugin package now.
[09:17] <Paddy_EIRE> ryanprior: hmm.. good point
[09:17] <mikechelen> Guest24135, was that in step 4? were there any previous errors?
[09:18] <Guest24135> mikechelen no i think..
[09:18] <stupid2> On my Vostro 1310 was ubuntu 8.10 working without problems, after upgrading to 8.04 and n restarts he don't recognize the keyboard and touchboard anymore, and this in X and in framebuffer
[09:18] <Wayman> #ubuntu-fr-jeux.
[09:18] <Guest24135> mikechelen, or i am missing something..
[09:18] <stupid2> does anybody know something about that?
[09:18] <Guest24135> mikechelen, or did a stupid thing..!!
[09:19] <Guest24135> mikechelen, i mean I did a stupid thing..!!?
[09:19] <mikechelen> mohanohi, lol hmm well the guide does have several tricky parts
[09:20] <mohanohi> mikechelen, ok.. pls can u guide me.. I am using cinelerra here for production purpose.. and my work has got stuck!!!
[09:20] <dli> I don't want ubuntu to auto set /etc/motd, how to?
[09:21] <Paddy_EIRE> ryanprior: To change the behaviour for gtk-window-decorator, open gconf-editor and change /apps/metacity/general/action_double_click_titlebar to "toggle_shade".
[09:21] <mikechelen> mohanohi, am looking through the guide now, may be easier to change cinelerra config somehow
[09:21] <cyberjorge> anyone can help in calibrating my touchscreen in Xorg?anoyone has an experience on manually calibrating?
[09:21] <Paddy_EIRE> ryanprior: compiz does not interface with that yet
[09:21] <ryanprior> Paddy_EIRE: Interesting. I dislike shaded windows myself, but for those who like that behaviour it's nice to know it's in gconf.
[09:22] <Paddy_EIRE> ryanprior: yeah nor do I
[09:22] <mohanohi> mikechelen, I have tried and asked in #cinelerra also.. But didn't solve any problem..
[09:22] <unikon> im interested in learning how to use the grep application and commands is there any link that will show me how to understand it and be able to use it  without being to complicated
[09:22] <Paddy_EIRE> ryanprior: gotta love gconf :-)
[09:22] <maekkkk> can anyone help me, Im getting resolution errors.
[09:22] <mohanohi> mikechelen, Changing in cinelerra also doesn
[09:22] <Paddy_EIRE> maekkkk: ask a complete question please
[09:22] <maekkkk> But I can ping WAN ips.
[09:22] <mohanohi> mikechelen, Changing in cinelerra also doesnt give any sound with any type of driver.
[09:22] <ryanprior> unikon: I suggest RUTE: http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz
[09:22] <bubba> when i type in my static ip address from a remote computer, i get a server timed out response. how do i solve this?
[09:23] <maekkkk> That is my complete question. I can't resolve anything and have no idea why, though I can ping external ips.
[09:23] <ryanprior> unikon: It has introductions to grep and many other GNU/Linux topics in a very approachable style.
[09:23] <mikechelen> mohanohi, there could be additional config settings needed for cinelerra
[09:23] <unikon> thank you again
[09:23] <Paddy_EIRE> maekkkk: are you connected to the net on your ubuntu machine?
[09:23] <mohanohi> mikechelen, i installed cinelerra from repository..
[09:23] <maekkkk> I am on my laptop. My ubuntu machine is also on the net, apparently.
[09:24] <maekkkk> Yea it is, cause im ssh'd in, and it can ping wan ips.
[09:24] <Paddy_EIRE> maekkkk: are they on the same lan?
[09:24] <maekkkk> Yes.
[09:24] <Paddy_EIRE> maekkkk: then that is why you can ssh
[09:24] <mikechelen> mohanohi, did you install ubuntu 9.04 fresh or upgrade?
[09:25] <mohanohi> mikechelen, fresh
[09:25] <bubba> bubba needs help
[09:25] <JediMaster> I presume if ddrescue can't rescue a hard drive, there's no chance of doing it any other way? (ddrescue rescued 0B and the entire drive was errors)
[09:25] <ryanprior> unikon: Now that I look at it again, RUTE doesn't seem to have a dedicated section on grep. You can look in there for some examples of grep in action, and then read the grep man page for a more comprehensive list of features.
[09:26] <mikechelen> mohanohi, see the note about pulse audio at http://cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php#ubuntu
[09:26] <ryanprior> JediMaster: forensic analysts can probably recover the data unless it's nuked hardcore
[09:26] <Paddy_EIRE> maekkkk: have you perhaps set a static ip address on your ubuntu computer that is now in use by the other machine you are ssh'd in with?
[09:26] <ryanprior> JediMaster: You have to pay them lots of money to do it, though.
[09:26] <mohanohi> mikechelen, yes.. it does't work
[09:26] <JediMaster> ryanprior: yes, I gathered, but I meant from standard tools we have available lol
[09:27] <maekkkk> I am in the correct computer, if I'm following what your saying.
[09:27] <Paddy_EIRE> yeah
[09:27] <ryanprior> JediMaster: If you can't get any bits out of the hard drive, then software tools will not be useful in recovering data.
[09:27] <Paddy_EIRE> maekkkk: check the ip addresses of both computers if you can
[09:27] <JediMaster> yeah, I presumed as much
[09:27] <maekkkk> My laptop and the ubuntu box?
[09:27] <Paddy_EIRE> yes
[09:28] <maekkkk> 2.4 and 2.148 as expected.
[09:28] <Paddy_EIRE> maekkkk: hmm
[09:29] <bubba> can anyone help good ol Bubba out?
[09:29] <JediMaster> ok, next question, seeing as I've already reinstaled ubuntu on another drive, is there any decent GUIs to setup complex firewalls for NATing networks and port forwarding?
[09:29] <Paddy_EIRE> JediMaster: well firestarter is pretty good
[09:29] <JediMaster> I wrote the entire firewall by hand last time and it took some time, so I'd rather get it working ASAP
[09:29] <mohanohi> mikechelen, can u help me pls?
[09:30] <JediMaster> Paddy_EIRE: can it cope with NATing between interfaces?
[09:30] <Paddy_EIRE> JediMaster: of that I can not be sure
[09:30] <Gautam> can you please tell me any messenger for ubuntu which is just like MSN in windows in terms of features?
[09:30] <ryanprior> JediMaster: ufw is suggested.
[09:30] <myke> Gautam: try pidgin
[09:30] <indus> heya folks
[09:30] <DJones> !msn | Gautam
[09:31] <ryanprior> JediMaster: Dunno how it does NAT though, I've never administrated a NAT system.
[09:31] <indus> Gautam: try amsn u get video too
[09:31] <indus> but no voice
[09:31] <Gautam> myke : i have tried amsn..which is not like as msn in windows
[09:31] <ryanprior> JediMaster: a google search turns up lots of hits for "ufw NAT" though, so it probably does NAT configuration fine.
[09:32] <livingdaylight> !cairo-dock
[09:32] <Paddy_EIRE> Gautam: of course its not.. linux is not windows :)
[09:32] <ryanprior> Gautam: You can probably run MSN on Wine, though.
[09:32] <Gautam> ryanprior : yes i tried and installed on Wine but finaly doesnt run after insatllation
[09:33] <carbontax> AWN is a good mac like dock too
[09:33] <ryanprior> Gautam: Eh, looks like the latest versions don't run on Wine.
[09:33] <maekkkk> latest versions are crap anyways
[09:33] <ryanprior> Gautam: I would suggest using Pidgin, though. It's got a pretty nice interface.
[09:33] <chazco> Anyone using a touchscreen with the Touchkit drivers on 9.04? How do you prevent the double-click effect?
[09:33] <myke> pidgin has worked well for me, i'm trying to convert our office so we can ditch the yahoo! client which is now causing severe problems for many people on a regular basis
[09:33] <livingdaylight> hi, i'm trying to install  cairo-dock-plug-ins_v2.0.2_i686.deb from http://developer.berlios.de/project/showfiles.php?group_id=8724
[09:34] <livingdaylight> but getting error
[09:34] <livingdaylight> something about preferences
[09:34] <Gautam> ryanprior: yes can not run....but i'll use Pidgin as you all are suggesting....might be better than amsn ?
[09:34] <Shubuntu> guys does anyone know any hacks for making the dock in avant go completely rounded?
[09:34] <Titan8990> livingdaylight, you have to be more specific than that if you expect to get helped
[09:34] <ryanprior> Gautam: It is different, and as far as I know does not have webcam support, which is a deal breaker for some.
[09:34] <ryanprior> Gautam: It is fairly nice and integrates well with the Ubuntu desktop, though.
[09:35] <Titan8990> Shubuntu, that is a feature of cairo-dock
[09:35] <livingdaylight> Titan8990: Error: /tmp/cairo-dock-plug-ins_v2.0.2_i686-1.deb could not be opened, because the associated helper application does not exist. Change the association in your preferences.
[09:35] <Shubuntu> no there's a hack, i've seen on people's laptops, just thought i'd ask here before asking my mate how he did it next week
[09:35] <friendishan> hi
[09:35] <Gautam> ryanprior: o.k i will use Pidgin....can you give me command to run it...on terminal ?
[09:36] <Titan8990> livingdaylight, what command are you using?
[09:36] <ryanprior> Gautam: Applications -> Internet -> Pidgin Instant Messenger
[09:36] <livingdaylight> Titan8990: its a .deb so what is it called that installed .debs? Gdi???
[09:37] <livingdaylight> it opened up and offered to install the .deb
[09:37] <kraut> moin
[09:37] <ryanprior> Gautam: Or "pidgin" if you like using the CLI. If you want a text interface, "finch" is available as well.
[09:37] <Titan8990> livingdaylight, dpkg -i /path/to/foobar
[09:37] <friendishan> gautam most of the times pidgin is already installed in ubuntu in default
[09:37] <Titan8990> livingdaylight, err with sudo
[09:37] <Gautam> ryanprior : oh sorry..its already installed by default
[09:37] <livingdaylight> Titan8990: Gdebi Package installer
[09:37] <livingdaylight> Titan8990: that's going to give me the same error?
[09:37] <tickle4> i just have a quick question
[09:38] <friendishan> gautam u can start it in applications->internet->pidgin
[09:38] <Gautam> ryanprior: but it wont attach with my msn  in windows...actually i used msn and all my contacts are there
[09:38] <Titan8990> livingdaylight, doubt it, pretty sure the problem is that you are trying to install from a tmp directory instead of downloading the file then installing
[09:38] <tickle4> on ubuntu if you get a windows virus does it have to run to be able to spread onto a different computer with windows?
[09:38] <Titan8990> tickle4, it can't run
[09:38] <ryanprior> Gautam: Pidgin can attach to all major chat networks, msn included. Just put in your login credentials and it'll load up your contacts.
[09:38] <gregoryj> wy
[09:39] <Titan8990> tickle4, and if it spread by itself, it wouldn't be a virus
[09:39] <gregoryj> why do you bother with this OS.... seriously
[09:39] <tickle4> so it wont be able to spread onto another computer?
[09:39] <Titan8990> tickle4, it would be a worm
[09:39] <gregoryj> no games support
[09:39] <gregoryj> hardly any app support
[09:39] <gregoryj> i mean.. why bother
[09:39] <gregoryj> seriously
[09:39] <FloodBot3> gregoryj: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:39] <livingdaylight> Titan8990: never had issues with Gdebi before
[09:39] <gregoryj> sure it;'s free... but whats the point
[09:39] <ryanprior> Gautam: Pidgin runs on Windows as well as Ubuntu, so if you come to like it you can run it everywhere.
[09:39] <myke> gregoryj: you're doing a rather poor job of trolling
[09:39] <Titan8990> gregoryj, stop trolling
[09:39] <ryanprior> !enter | gregoryj
[09:39] <dn44> I have an external usb hdd and I want to format it what program should I use?
[09:39] <gregoryj> im not trolling
[09:39] <gregoryj> but seriously,
[09:40] <guntbert> !ot | gregoryj
[09:40] <ryanprior> gregoryj: The place for this discussion is #ubuntu-offtopic. This channel is for support questions. :-)
[09:40] <mib_bkviqqpb> http://nds-homebrew.comxa.com/irc.html   (come and join this channel one time offer and get a stat such as op or halfop. Join this channel now
[09:40] <myke> gregoryj: you're free to use whatever OS you like (and go to the appropriate chat room for it)
[09:40] <Titan8990> gregoryj, how are you not? you came on to a ubuntu channel just to tell people you don't like it
[09:40] <dn44> gparted??
[09:40] <gregoryj> litterally no HW support.... it can barerly run movies... not to mention HD movies
[09:40] <gregoryj> i mean what is the point ... please
[09:40] <Titan8990> gregoryj, that couldn't scream troll any more
[09:40] <gregoryj> help me understand
[09:40] <licky654> what's the command to list the uuids pf all hdds?
[09:40] <tickle4> so if a worm got onto ubuntu but couldn't run would it still be able to get into another windows system?
[09:40] <myke> gregoryj: how's life under the bridge?
[09:40] <gregoryj> what on earth are you talking about
[09:40] <ryanprior> gregoryj: We will not explain here. Please join #ubuntu-offtopic. @all others: please do not engage in conversation. :-)
[09:41] <gregoryj> i am honestly trying to understand what drives you to use ututbutu
[09:41] <JediMaster> can anyone suggest a lightweight easy to setup dns, just need something so that this machine can proxy requests and set a few static internal routes
[09:41] <friendishan> Gautam u shud install aMSN for using the best of MSN
[09:41] <Titan8990> gregoryj, some of us like 1) more control 2) life without malware 3) like a real network OS 4) enjoy the robust server functionality
[09:41] <gregoryj> explain 1 and 3
[09:41] <myke> gregoryj: my computer needs to work.  linux/bsd/*nix fits the bill.  with windows, maybe it works, maybe virus of the month or w/e
[09:41] <Flannel> Take it to -offtopic
[09:41] <tickle4> so if a worm got onto ubuntu but couldn't run would it still be able to get into another windows system?
[09:41] <friendishan> bye
[09:41] <ryanprior> gregoryj joined offtopic. Anyone interested in answering his questions should do so there. Thanks all.
[09:42] <gregoryj> it only gets a vcirus if ur a complete retrard... seriously ive been using windows xp for 4 years... NO virus/spyware at all
[09:42] <Titan8990> Flannel, thanks
[09:42] <licky654> fdisk -p shows the drives, but not their uuids
[09:42] <Titan8990> licky654, blkid shows uuids
[09:43] <chinosuke> I wanna check whether libpcap installed in my system. What command to execute?
[09:44] <tickle4> yes but it said i had two virus things in my firefox cache but they didnt do anything but i just wondered if it would be able to spread through my memory stick and onto my windows computer?
[09:44] <dn44> does anyone know how to do a wbfs ?
[09:44] <Titan8990> chinosuke, dpkg --get-selections | grep libpcap
[09:44] <tickle4> it said i had 2 viruses in my (ubuntu) firefox cache
[09:44] <gordonjcp> chinosuke: dpkg -l libpcap*
[09:44] <chazco> Hi... how can I disable /dev/input/mice in xorg on 9.04?
[09:45] <gordonjcp> tickle4: you could clear your cache
[09:45] <tickle4> i have, so does that mean that the virus has gone?
[09:45] <dn44> !wbfs
[09:45] <tickle4> (sorry i suck with computers)
[09:45] <Gautam> friendishan: well i have just started Pindgin which is i think wud be fine
[09:45] <SetiAmon> hey is there a x64 adobe reader?
[09:46] <Titan8990> gordonjcp, does -l show status?
[09:46] <gordonjcp> Titan8990: yeah
[09:46] <chinosuke> It is installed. How to locate the location?
[09:46] <Titan8990> gordonjcp, hmm, wish I had a debian system to compare the performance of the two methods
[09:46] <archman> i can't hear midi, help!
[09:46] <gordonjcp> chinosuke: /usr/lib/<whatever>
[09:47] <gordonjcp> Titan8990: two methods of what?
[09:47] <chinosuke> gordonjcp: not found there
[09:47] <Titan8990> gordonjcp,  dpkg --get-selections | grep libpcap    --- should do the same as your command
[09:47] <gordonjcp> chinosuke: what does "dpkg -L libpcap0.8" say?
[09:48] <gordonjcp> Titan8990: yeah, I guess
[09:48] <gordonjcp> Titan8990: different result
[09:48] <andresj> hello, what is the recommended way to suggest adding a package from Debian testing/unstable to the Ubuntu repositories? It works without a change if installed directly.
[09:48] <andresj> (I'm talking about otf-stix, btw)
[09:48] <chinosuke> /.
[09:48] <chinosuke> /usr
[09:48] <chinosuke> /usr/lib
[09:48] <chinosuke> /usr/lib/libpcap.so.1.0.0
[09:48] <chinosuke> /usr/share
[09:48] <FloodBot3> chinosuke: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:48] <chinosuke> /usr/share/doc
[09:49] <xrfang> hi there anyone using AWN here? I need help change its behavior
[09:49] <pelle__> What is the name of the danish server?
[09:49] <xrfang> I have an icon on awn bar, e.g. firefox,
[09:50] <carbontax> i use it
[09:50] <xrfang> if I click it then it opens firefox,
[09:50] <carbontax> i think the one you dl from the website works better
[09:50] <xrfang> then I click it again, I hope it will open a NEW firefox, but it doesn't it minimize the running firefox!
[09:50] <carbontax> awn that is
[09:50] <Titan8990> gordonjcp, in what way?
[09:51] <xrfang> however, if I run a program from anywhere else (not from its launcher), then it will add a button for the new running application, just like the task bar, which is what I want
[09:51] <xrfang> carbontax: any ideas?
[09:51] <Titan8990> xrfang, add firefox as its own icon
[09:51] <gordonjcp> Titan8990: well dpkg --get-selected gives a different output to dpkg -l
[09:51] <Titan8990> xrfang, should make a new icon when you its opened, unless they have changed the behavior
[09:51] <xrfang> titan8990, I don't know what you mean, this strange behavior exists for any icon I added to the awn launcher
[09:52] <Titan8990> gordonjcp, did they both produce the desired results?
[09:52] <gordonjcp> Titan8990: apparently so
[09:52] <xrfang> Titan8990: who has changed the behavior?
[09:52] <gordonjcp> Titan8990: you'd need to ask chinosuke
[09:52] <stupid2> On my Vostro 1310 was ubuntu 8.10 working without problems, after upgrading to 8.04 and n restarts he don't recognize the keyboard and touchboard anymore, does anybody know something about that?
[09:52] <pelle__> ???How do I change server?
[09:52] <Titan8990> xrfang, awn devs?
[09:53] <xrfang> :(
[09:53] <carbontax> i gave up on the awn from the repository and downloaded it from the website
[09:53] <xrfang> well, anyone? this is a very strange behavior, I guess it is copied from apple, anyone can explain what is the rationale here? :|
[09:53] <carbontax> works good now
[09:55] <chinosuke> How to install pcap?
[09:55] <Titan8990> chinosuke, apt-cache search pcap
[09:56] <Titan8990> chinosuke, or you can install tcpdump or wireshard and it will be pulled as a dependency
[09:56] <chinosuke> yes I've wireshark install.
[09:56] <Gautam> hello can you tell me where history save in Pindgin messenger ?
[09:56] <chinosuke> but when i tried to execute cpan Net::Pcap, it told me that I do not have pcap
[09:57] <Decepticon> im trying to find all .sh files, this isnt working "find / *.sh" what should i do instead
[09:57] <Bolice> find / -name "*.sh"
[09:58] <Bolice> use root
[09:58] <Gautam> can you tell me where history save in Pindgin messenger ?
[09:59] <ryanprior> Gautam: It's in the plugins menu, I believe.
[09:59] <uberadm> hey. I would like to format my flash drive root folder as read only so that viruses can't write to it. how do I do that from terminal?
[09:59] <livingdaylight> Titan8990: i also had dependency error installing your way with sudo dpkg -i but i found dependency webkit in synaptics and cairo dock seemed then to install. I see it in my Applications menu under Accessories but it doesn't launch?
[09:59] <Decepticon> thanks Bolice thats alot better
[09:59] <ryanprior> uberadm: You can't format a drive to be read-only; rather, it's a decision made when the drive is mounted.
[09:59] <Gautam> ryanprior : i have searched it everywhere...but its not showing
[10:00] <uberadm> ryanprior, oh, that sucks. Even if the owner is root?
[10:00] <ryanprior> uberadm: And, I'm not sure how to specify that the flash drive should be mounted read-only.
[10:00] <rascal999> I'm looking for a cheap shell, any suggestions?
[10:00] <ryanprior> uberadm: root can unmount a read-only drive and then re-mount it as read-write. root can do everything.
[10:01] <ryanprior> uberadm: If a virus or malicious software gets root, all bets are off as far as security goes.
[10:01] <Titan8990> livingdaylight, try launching it from the terminal to see errors
[10:01] <dn44> what can format in wbfs?
[10:01] <uberadm> ryanprior, yep, but would a windows pc be able to still read the flash drive?
[10:01] <Titan8990> livingdaylight, why didn't you use the package manger to install cairo-dock in the first place?
[10:01] <uberadm> ryanprior, I should experiment
[10:02] <livingdaylight> Titan8990: i thought it wasn't in repos, is it??
[10:02] <ryanprior> uberadm: So long as you use a Windows-compatible file system, it will work. NTFS or VFAT are good options.
[10:02] <Titan8990> livingdaylight, pretty sure it is, might be in the media repos
[10:02] <livingdaylight> Titan8990: i thought i checked and didn't see it
[10:02] <chinosuke> i tried to install perl module using "cpan Net::Pcap" but it's not working
[10:02] <Titan8990> livingdaylight, cairo-dock was specifically developed for ubuntu....
[10:03] <livingdaylight> Titan8990: i was reading in one ubuntu tutorial that Cairo being the best docker wasn't in repos and other rubbish ones made it
[10:03] <Titan8990> !medibunt
[10:03] <usimic> hey, anyone know of a program to automagicaly convert vim's language.vim files to GtkSourceView *.lang euqivalent?
[10:03] <livingdaylight> !medibuntu
[10:03] <chinosuke> the error message is "You appear to lack the pcap(3) library."
[10:03] <uberadm> if I go sudo format /flash_drive , will that make the flash drive "belong" to root? and what will it look like to a windows pc?
[10:03] <livingdaylight> !media
[10:03] <unikon> can a linux pc get in trouble if a virtual xp gets infected with a virus
[10:04] <Paddy_EIRE> unikon: no
[10:04] <ryanprior> unikon: yes
[10:04] <uberadm> unikon, the linux won't break
[10:04] <uberadm> unikon, the XP can tho
[10:04] <Paddy_EIRE> ryanprior: no it cant.. the virus cant go anywhere but the virtual drive space
[10:04] <joeyjones> is it worth upgrading from 8.10 to 9.04?
[10:04] <livingdaylight> Titan8990: seems there are dependency problems now which even prevent me from removing cairo
[10:04]  * livingdaylight sighs
[10:05] <ryanprior> unikon: If the virus is running inside the Windows software, you're just as vulnerable as if it were running on bare metal so long as you're operating within the VM. The underlying OS isn't likely to be infected, but you're still running malicious software.
[10:05] <ryanprior> Paddy_EIRE: That's true, but what's the big difference?
[10:05] <Paddy_EIRE> ryanprior: well that was not his question
[10:05] <IndyGunFreak> joeyjones: nobody can really answer that but you... i think so..
[10:05] <Titan8990> livingdaylight, thats why its usually recommended to use synaptic whenever possible
[10:06] <ryanprior> Paddy_EIRE: I would say that a PC running GNU/Linux and Windows, with Windows being infected, is just as bad as running Windows period. Moral of this story: don't use Windows.
[10:06] <Paddy_EIRE> yeah well of course
[10:06] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[10:07] <unikon> looks like ill run it on a unplugged pc
[10:07] <carbontax> sorry or Mac's
[10:07] <ryanprior> unikon: That is a good idea. Also don't plug in any unfriendly media such as CDs or flash drives.
[10:07] <joeyjones> how can i swap from compiz to metacity in cli?
[10:07] <uberadm> ryanprior, unless you're writing a virus and want to test it :-P
[10:07] <Paddy_EIRE> joeyjones: metacity --replace
[10:07] <ryanprior> uberadm: Yes, Windows is an excellent platform for virus development. :-)
[10:08] <joeyjones> ryanakca: actually, ms visual studiomis
[10:08] <joeyjones> *studio is
[10:08] <iceroot> ryanprior: and using :)
[10:09] <uberadm> whats the general command for formatting a partition from terminal? I know its a noob question, but i tried fdisk and it doesn't format partitions
[10:09] <dyf> would JFS be a better choice for file system than ext3 for old computers?
[10:10] <ryanprior> uberadm: Google is your friend in this case. If there's some terminology or error you have trouble understanding, come here with a specific question. :-)
[10:10] <ryanprior> dyf: ext3 is good for most purposes, including older computers. If you don't want or need journaling support, you can use ext2
[10:11] <dyf> ryanprior: if it's good for "most purposes", what would be the exceptions?
[10:12] <ryanprior> dyf: Some particular use cases benefit from using ReiserFS, ZFS, XFS, ext4, etc.
[10:12] <ryanprior> dyf: However, if you're not running high-throughput file servers, ext3 is probably good for you.
[10:12] <ryanprior> dyf: And even if you are running those, ext3 is a pretty safe choice.
[10:12] <dyf> ryanprior: according to archlinux's wiki, "JFS currently uses the least CPU resources of any GNU/Linux filesystem"
[10:13] <ryanprior> dyf: Yes, but CPU is a very small part of file operation overhead. The vast majority of it is seek times.
[10:14] <uberadm> yay! found it. mkfs
[10:14] <ryanprior> dyf: ext3 minimizes seek times, which is almost always more important than using littler CPU.
[10:15] <dyf> ok, thanks ryanprior
[10:15] <ryanprior> dyf: For more info on the mathematics behind that, check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amdahl%27s_law
[10:18] <chinosuke> how to install pcap?
[10:19] <Paddy_EIRE> chinosuke: that looks like a google query ;-)
[10:19] <stupid2> chinosuke, apt-get install libpcap
[10:19] <uberadm> sometimes chmod has a four number argument (7777 for example) instead of three. The first three are owner, group and everyone else. What does the fourth nr mean?
[10:19] <chinosuke> thanks
[10:19] <stupid2> chinosuke, sudp apt-get install libpcap
[10:19] <stupid2> chinosuke, sudo apt-get install libpcap
[10:19] <stupid2> chinosuke, sry
[10:20] <Chousuke> uberadm: sticky bit/suid bit etc.
[10:20] <Viking667> W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com jaunty-security Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>.  the last line suggests running "apt-get update" to fix the error.
[10:20] <Chousuke> uberadm: see the manual page :)
[10:20] <Viking667> That's an error I'm getting when I actually type "apt-get update"
[10:20] <jimi_> Has anybody tried slapping Ubuntu on the PS3 yet?
[10:20] <Chousuke> uberadm: actually, suid/sgid/sticky I think
[10:20] <ryanprior> Jimi_ Ubuntu isn't technically supported on PowerPC.
[10:20] <dooglus> my microphone doesn't work in any flash application
[10:21] <dooglus> is there an alternative flash plugin to the adobe one which I can try instead?
[10:21] <dooglus> !flash
[10:21] <Paddy_EIRE> dooglus: is it muted perhaps
[10:21] <Viking667> is it PowerPC or POWER5  ?
[10:21] <ryanprior> dooglus: Gnash can run many flash programs, including the all-important YouTube.
[10:21] <cyberjorge> hi, i am able to add a port beyond COM3 by adding some texts to menu.list in the GRUB folder
[10:21] <dooglus> Paddy_EIRE: it's not.  it works in skype, but not on any website that uses flash
[10:21] <cyberjorge> now i installed my touchscreen driver using COM5 (dev/ttyS4), it responds when i touch the screen but not calibrated.
[10:21] <cyberjorge> Problem is, the calibration utility can't detect the touch device, what do I missing?
[10:21] <lizhixiang> hello
[10:22] <dooglus> ryanprior: thanks - is it a browser plugin?  what's the package called?
[10:22] <lizhixiang> i'm lh
[10:22] <cyberjorge> any suggestions?
[10:22] <ryanprior> dooglus: apt-cache search gnash
[10:22] <lizhixiang> www
[10:22] <dooglus> !gnash
[10:22] <ryanprior> dooglus: It runs both as a browser plugin and as a stand-alone player.
[10:22] <lizhixiang> i'm from china
[10:22] <lizhixiang> please ,
[10:22] <dooglus> !info mozilla-plugin-gnash
[10:22] <ryanprior> !cn | lizhixiang, if you prefer help in Chinese
[10:23] <lizhixiang> 大家好
[10:23] <dli> lizhixiang, this is an english only channel
[10:23] <lizhixiang> oke
[10:23] <dooglus> do I need to remove the nonfree adobe package for it to work?  will they fight otherwise?
[10:23] <lizhixiang> i see
[10:23] <lizhixiang> but i english is not good
[10:23] <deusjevoo> hows ubuntu doing with virtualization? any1 tried or using it?
[10:24] <ryanprior> dooglus: I believe you do have to remove the non-free package, but there might be a way to make them play nice.
[10:24] <dli> dooglus, in firefox menu: Tools->Add-ons, you can disable the adobe one
[10:24] <lars_bauer> howto get open office 3.0 on Intrepid Ibex
[10:24] <indus> #plone
[10:24] <dooglus> dli: wilco
[10:24] <ryanprior> lizhixiang: We will try to understand but you are welcome to join one of the channels Ubottu listed as well.
[10:24] <indus> damn
[10:24] <ryanprior> !ooo | lars_bauer
[10:25] <dli> lars_bauer, http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-To-Install-OpenOffice-org-3-0-in-Ubuntu-8-10-96449.shtml
[10:25] <dooglus> does anyone really use gnash?  and if so, does it work?  I've tried free replacements for closed proprietary things before and never found them to be good enough to actually use
[10:25] <indus> lars_bauer: i answered that yesterday i think
[10:25] <lars_bauer> thx every one
[10:25] <unikon> after putting in a dvd movie it palys well but even though i selected english language its still playing spanish  is there any fix to that and also how can i set it so the main dvd play program is Vlc
[10:26] <myke> the closed source flash plugin is fine
[10:26] <myke> just use that
[10:26] <ryanprior> dooglus: I do use Gnash, but only occasionally. For most Flash apps, Adobe's runtime works best. Hopefully over the next year or two that will cease to be the case.
[10:26] <lars_bauer> indus: yes but i got interupted and my log wos not setup to long files
[10:26] <dli> unikon, edit ~/.mplayer/config, and put lines: alang=en
[10:26] <dli> unikon, and: slang=en
[10:27] <dooglus> ryanprior: I installed it, restarted firefox, about:plugins shows it, but youtube.com doesn't have a video in it
[10:27] <dli> ryanakca, gnash still uses too much cpu:(
[10:27] <dli> dooglus, what about Tools->Add-ons ?
[10:28] <dooglus> is there something I need to set up to get it to play?
[10:28] <ryanprior> dli: Sounds like a bug. You might want to ping Rob and make sure he knows what's going on.
[10:28] <dooglus> Add-ons>Plugins shows flash 10.0 r22 disabled, and flash 9.0 r999 (gnash) enabled
[10:28] <ryanprior> dooglus: Sometimes I need to restart Firefox a few times before it works. >.>
[10:28] <dli> dooglus, maybe, remove adobe-flash, and restart firefox
[10:29] <dli> ryanprior, gnash developers want to get features first, and optimization later
[10:29] <dooglus> in the bottom right corner of the firefox youtube page I see a (copyrighted?) lego brick, which when I click it shows "manage content plug-ins - shockwave flash (application/x-shock... Gnash SWF Player
[10:29] <ryanprior> dli: That doesn't mean you shouldn't file bugs. :-)
[10:30] <dli> ryanakca, it's not a bug, just road ahead
[10:30] <ryanprior> dli: Fair enough. Like I say, I expect good things within a year or two.
[10:30] <dli> ryanprior, also, probably, they won't do coding level optimizations, unlike adobe flash
[10:30] <ryanprior> Also, poor poor ryanakca. Guy gets so much spam when I'm in the channel.
[10:30] <cirusgalaxy> axy
[10:31] <carbontax> anyone have a ubuntu one account is it as good as dropbox?
[10:31] <ryanprior> dli: That's not necessarily always going to be true. Once Gnash is feature-complete or close to, anybody can go in any implement more vm-level optimizations.
[10:32] <ryanprior> carbontax: Not as good as dropbox, but may be someday.
[10:32] <cirusgalaxy> hi
[10:32] <gordonjcp> flash is dying
[10:32] <carbontax> thx
[10:32] <gordonjcp> netcraft confirms it
[10:32] <ryanprior> gordonjcp: nevar
[10:32] <carbontax> stick with drop then
[10:32] <ryanprior> gordonjcp: Who does netcraft say is taking over? Java or silverlight or HTML 5 or what?
[10:33] <gordonjcp> ryanprior: well html5 has tags to allow the browser to deal with playing audio or video
[10:33] <gordonjcp> ryanprior: in web design I've seen js framework cleverness replace flash for a lot of things that people used to use flash for
[10:33] <ryanprior> gordonjcp: Okay, that's far from a trend towards the death of Flash though.
[10:33] <ryanprior> gordonjcp: People are finally learning to use it responsibly. That's good for Flash's future, not bad.
[10:34] <dooglus> I made a new firefox profile, and youtube still doesn't wanna play using gnash
[10:34] <gordonjcp> ryanprior: heh
[10:34] <dooglus> carbontax: dropbox refuses to work for me
[10:34] <dli> dooglus, removed adobe-flash?
[10:34] <dooglus> carbontax: it worked for a few months, but now just doesn't
[10:34] <gordonjcp> ryanprior: seriously though, the number of sites where they go "and I want the picture at the top to fade in..." - previously that would be a flash thing but now you would just throw scriptaculous at it
[10:34] <dli> dooglus, try another browser, like epiphany or galeon
[10:35] <dooglus> dli: I disabled it, didn't remove it.  you mean using apt-get or using firefox's add-on gui?
[10:35] <dli> dooglus, yes, sudo apt-get --yes remove adobe-flash
[10:36] <ryanprior> gordonjcp: Sure, Flash was never a great solution for this, and now we have a better one. However, Flash can still do lots of things quite well that are a pain and a half with Javascript. Perhaps if, in the next few years, browsers handle Javascript+SVG animations much better, Flash will lose yet another niche.
[10:36] <michael_> im having trouble with my /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:36] <michael_> trying to follow these instructions
[10:36] <michael_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReinhardTartler/X/RevertingIntelDriverTo2.4
[10:36] <ryanprior> gordonjcp: In the area of animation and rich interactive content, though, Flash has better tools than most available for javascript toolkits.
[10:36] <ladramm> good morning i want to ask you if samba 8.10 is the same that samba 9.04??
[10:36] <michael_> after doing so, i type  $ sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel-2.4
[10:36] <michael_> but it's not found
[10:37] <dooglus> dli: that seems to have worked (once I got the package name right)
[10:38] <dli> dooglus, sorry for supplying wrong name:(
[10:39] <icqn> !qtgnome
[10:39] <icqn> !qt
[10:40] <unikon>  after putting in a dvd movie it palys well but even though i selected english language its still playing spanish  is there any fix to that and also how can i set it so the main dvd play program is Vlc
[10:40] <Gamarok__> Guys how can i auto mount all the partitions (ntfs) on bootups
[10:40] <dooglus> dli: I don't see any way of selecting a mic in gnash - or any evidence that it even works with mics
[10:41] <indus> Gamarok__: u need to add it to fstab file
[10:41] <indus> !mount
[10:41] <ladramm> the configuration of samba in ubuntu 8.10 is the same that 9.04 ??
[10:41] <dli> dooglus, I have no idea about mic:(
[10:42] <dooglus> dli: try stickam.com or something - it uses flash to broadcast your cam and mic
[10:43] <dli> dooglus, I think gnash doesn't play at all at stickam
[10:44] <ladramm> alo
[10:45] <dooglus> dli: right.  or with most other places I just tried it.  that's kind of what I meant about these attempts to make free versions of non-free tools
[10:47] <kryle> hey, anyone here? how to i add a simple no-clickable text to a panel in gnome ?
[10:47] <ryanprior> dooglus: The fact is that there's more work to be done, not that the fundamental approach is flawed. Gnash is great software, but it's incomplete.
[10:47] <peter_> my windows partition does not show up in places. Is there a way to add it?
[10:47] <Viking667> night, all.
[10:47] <Demonicdata> Is anone here able to help me with tor?
[10:48] <Demonicdata> it seems to be starting up automatically even though it is not listed in "startup applications" it starting up automatically prevents me from using vidalia,it worked when i first installed it
[10:48] <JJT> Hy there
[10:48] <ryanprior> dooglus: Check out Firefox, OpenOffice.org, the GNU software, etc; all free versions of non-free packages. They are quite useful and relevant in today's software world, and Gnash may get there too.
[10:49] <JJT> i have a problem
[10:49] <mikeyfbi> after i edit xorg.conf, how can i restart x without rebooting
[10:50] <dooglus> what non-free package is firefox a version of?  it's implementing open web standards
[10:50] <dli> peter_, add it in /etc/fstab
[10:51] <JJT> i need script, i could run vom desktop, it have to open 4 terminal windows with the rights of root an execute in every terminal an sh-script
[10:51] <mikeyfbi> could anyone help me get my external monitor to display 1280x700
[10:51] <Myrtti> JJT: check out terminator
[10:51] <peter_> dli: how do i do that? its a command in terminal? Sorry i am very new to ubuntu
[10:52] <JJT> Myrtti: where i will find this?
[10:52] <dli> peter_, open a terminal, edit the file /etc/fstab
[10:52] <dli> peter_, like: sudo vi /etc/fstab
[10:52] <dli> peter_, or sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[10:53] <Myrtti> JJT: sudo aptitude install terminator - it's a terminal emulator, but it has the option of cloning the commands to every split part of it
[10:53] <dli> peter_, add a line like: UID=7848874F48870B58	/mnt/windows ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8,nls=utf8 0 0
[10:53] <dli> peter_, you can find the UUID part by typing the command: blkid
[10:54] <JJT> Myrtti: is it able to 4 difrent scriptz in 4 different windows?
[10:54] <JJT> man
[10:55] <Myrtti> JJT: no, it clones the exact same command to the different splits of one window
[10:55] <JJT> Myrtti: oh, i need to run 4 different commands
[10:56] <peter_> dli: so i add that line to the fstab file and then save?
[10:56] <dli> peter_, you need to get the UUID for your partition
[10:56] <peter_> dli: yes i have that now
[10:57] <Freddy2_> hi
[10:57] <dli> peter_, and you need /mnt/windows (or whatever the folder you want it to be)
[10:57] <Demonicdata> it seems to be starting up automatically even though it is not listed in "startup applications" it starting up automatically prevents me from using vidalia,it worked when i first installed it
[10:57] <Freddy2_> i've just updated my 8.10 machine to 9.04 and my scripts linked at /etc/rc2.d (rc3.d and rc5.d) do not automatically launch anymore after the update
[10:57] <dli> peter_, also, add uid=peter,gid=users to the option field: defaults,uid=peter,gid=peter
[10:57] <Freddy2_> how can i fix this? thx
[10:58] <dli> peter_, and you need the package ntfs-3g: sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g
[10:58] <dli> peter_, after that, save the file, and run: sudo mount -a
[10:58] <dli> peter_, check whether it's mounted by running: mount
[10:58] <SecludedSage> Excuse me, I am editing /etc/fstab. Can I write a entry about device in two lines?
[10:59] <dli> peter_, also, check files in the mounted folder
[10:59] <JJT> Myrtti: is there an other software or some chance to do it by an external script?
[10:59] <dli> SecludedSage, no need :( just one line
[11:00] <Paddy_EIRE> JJT: why dont you at least try the software she suggested first before you dismiss it for something else.
[11:00] <peter_> dli: so where do i add this line in the fstab file? at the end?
[11:00] <dli> peter_, yes
[11:00] <SecludedSage> dli: No any way? Such as add a "\" at the end of line.
[11:01] <dli> peter_, if you don't want the partition to be mounted auto (at booting), you can put the "noauto" option there
[11:01] <peter_> dli: ok, thanks. And do i need to put a # infront of the line
[11:01] <Paddy_EIRE> XD
[11:01] <dli> SecludedSage, I just don't understand why you want two lines
[11:01] <shambat> help! I just rm'ed a file, how do I undelete?
[11:01] <dli> peter_, no, # means comments
[11:01] <lars_bauer> while upgrading i got the message not enough space on /boot. Is it safe to remove the *.bak files ?
[11:02] <Haegin> shambat: bad luck, you can't
[11:02] <JJT> Paddy_EIRE: sorry, i thought the suggested software isn't right for me, because i could run just one command in diffrent windows
[11:02] <peter_> dli: ok thanks
[11:02] <Paddy_EIRE> JJT: try it
[11:02] <shambat> omg
[11:02] <the[V]oid> Hi, I am trying to get the latest elisa release to work, but everytime I run it I get the error "exceptions.ImportError: No module named ticker", I asked google, but had no luck. Any idea what I could do?
[11:02] <dli> shambat, short answer, no way
[11:02] <shambat> unbelievable
[11:02] <dli> shambat, keep in mind, unix101, backup! nothing can replace backup
[11:03] <SecludedSage> dli: En, you really want the answer? Hmm. I want to keep each line shorter than 80 characters so that the config file looks beautiful for me.
[11:03] <mellys> helo
[11:03] <p-suti_> server irc.cc.tut.fi
[11:03] <mellys> need help about xubuntu
[11:03] <SecludedSage> mellys: Yes.
[11:03] <mellys> how can i install compiz fusion and beryl?
[11:03] <dli> mellys, no need for begging :)
[11:03] <Paddy_EIRE> !xubuntu | mellys
[11:04] <dli> mellys, sudo apt-get install compiz
[11:04] <Paddy_EIRE> mellys:  Join #xubuntu for support
[11:04] <dli> mellys, forget about beryl
[11:04] <mellys> this is my first time to use xbuntu
[11:04] <indus> mellys: compiz has merged with beryl
[11:04] <ROSANetttt> hello , iwant to configure a web server in my computer ubuntu server 9.04 anyone can help me , thanks
[11:04] <indus> mellys: just install compiz and u r done
[11:04] <mellys> ok
[11:04] <mellys> brb
[11:04] <mellys> what is the shortcut for terminal?
[11:05] <dli> ROSANetttt, sudo apt-get install apache2
[11:05] <bluegoon> Guys, this might be out of topic, i guess, what and how do i need to install the components for PHP development on an ubuntu machine?  Jaunty 9.04?
[11:05] <ROSANetttt> dli: thank you , i will change the files or no??
[11:06] <peter_> dli: i tried this but got an error. There is a line UUID=D488F22288F20332 /windows        ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1, before the one i added. Do i need to delete this line?
[11:06] <lars_bauer> while upgrading i got the message not enough space on /boot. Is it safe to remove the *.bak files ?
[11:06] <myke> bluegoon: just php on the server, really, with all the extensions you need
[11:06] <mellys> helo how can i know i am using the correct graphics driver?
[11:06] <mellys> my video card is nvidia mx400 64mb
[11:06] <Kuukkel^> Hello there, i'm still using Windows XP since i don't know yet 1 thing... Is there already proper 3d Open source version of ATI r600/r700 drivers? =)
[11:06] <bluegoon> myke, sorry mate, how do i install that?
[11:07] <dli> peter_, ntfs-3g is better (rw support)
[11:07] <peter_> so i should delete the line above?
[11:07] <myke> bluegoon: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/installing-php5-and-apache-on-ubuntu/
[11:07] <bluegoon> myke: sweet dude thanks, ur a legend.
[11:08] <Demonicdata> how do i turn off a startup daemon?
[11:08] <dli> ROSANetttt, no, apache2 up after you install it
[11:08] <IndyGunFreak> mellys: well, as you know, thats an ancient card..d o you have an option in system/admin/hardware drivers for that card?
[11:08] <dli> ROSANetttt, of course, you need to get your own site
[11:08] <dli> Demonicdata, sudo update-rc.d -f ssh remove
[11:08] <kora-chan> heya im using jaunty x64 with network manager and network-manager-vpnc plugin. on connect i always get the error "no valid vpn secrets". any idea what went wrong?
[11:08] <lars_bauer> i have to get some space on /boot which files is it safe to remove ?
[11:09] <ROSANetttt> dl: i install it , buti dont know what i will change
[11:09] <dli> lars_bauer, old kernels (better by apt-get remove linux-image-blah)
[11:10] <GibbaTheHutt> hi, is there a way to get to the old Gutsy repos somewhere ?
[11:10] <mellys> indy only system hardware driver
[11:10] <mellys> what will i choose?
[11:10] <ROSANetttt> dl: i install it , buti dont know what i will change
[11:10] <dli> ROSANetttt, as usual, /var/www/index.html
[11:10] <IndyGunFreak> mellys: theres no nvidia driver there?
[11:10] <mellys> version 96?
[11:10] <lars_bauer> dli: whats the blah part
[11:10] <mellys> wait indy
[11:11] <mellys> nvidia accelerated graphics driver (version 96) recommend
[11:11] <mellys> is that ok indy?
[11:11] <peter_> dli: still have an error message, it says "failed to access volume 'UID=D488*': no such fine or directory. However i copied the UID directly from the blkid comand
[11:11] <IndyGunFreak> is it active?
[11:11] <dli> lars_bauer, apt-cache --installed search linux-image
[11:11] <mellys> dont know
[11:12] <mellys> there is a button activate
[11:12] <dli> peter_, UUID=
[11:12] <mellys> i will click ativate?
[11:12] <gartral> I have a few Background files i would like to add to /usr/share/backgrounds/ how can i copy all of them in one command (from terminal)?
[11:12] <IndyGunFreak> mellys: then I would activate it.
[11:12] <peter_> dli: haha thanks
[11:12] <mellys> ok
[11:12] <muttman> I have installed kde-desktop but I do not see any panel. is there any extra settings required to see panel?
[11:12] <dli> peter_, it's called UUID(Universally Unique Identifier)
[11:12] <IndyGunFreak> mellys: if thats the driver it recommends, then it should work fine... then you can do the 3d crap if thats what you're wanting.
[11:13] <IndyGunFreak> muttman: i don't do kDE.. i hate it and know nothing about it.
[11:13] <mellys> its now downloading
[11:13] <muttman> IndyGunFreak: I too was using Gnome before seeing kde4.2
[11:13] <IndyGunFreak> muttman: sorry, i thought mellys said that and i was helping him.. autocomlete sometimes gets you in trouble :)
[11:14] <muttman> IndyGunFreak: try it once. Its more integrated now
[11:14] <dli> gartral, sudo cp /path/to/*.png  /usr/share/backgrounds/
[11:14] <Kuukkel^> Hello there, i'm still using Windows XP since i don't know yet 1 thing... Is there already proper 3d Open source version of ATI r600/r700 drivers? =)
[11:14] <IndyGunFreak> muttman: uh.. NO.. i see nothing at all redeeming aout KDE.. and I'd never use it.
[11:14] <peter_> dli: thanks no it says "failed to access the mountpoint /mnt/windows: no such file or directory" do i need to create this mountpoint?
[11:14] <Paddy_EIRE> muttman: use #kubuntu for kde support
[11:14] <muttman> ok
[11:14] <gartral> dli: it's 14 seperate .jpgs >.>
[11:15] <dli> Kuukkel^, I think still in development for r6xx/r7xx: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-video-ati/log/
[11:15] <dli> peter_, yes, sudo mkdir -p /mnt/windows
[11:15] <dli> peter_, of course, you can mount it anywhere you prefer
[11:15] <peter_> dli: ok thanks
[11:16] <carbontax> Kuukkel: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[11:16] <JGodbout> What's a good program to do webcam stuff, like through MSN?
[11:16] <livingdaylight>  anyone know a really good how-to for setting up mpd? That's a walk-through for a noob.. The best tutorial i've found sofar is for ArchLinux and even that lost me after a while
[11:16] <Kuukkel^> dli, thank you for information, as soon as i hear its released and something about the Steam how smoothly rolling, i'm comingt back to ubuntu from windows.
[11:16] <dli> JGodbout, amsn kopete both do webcam, but I like ekiga (non-msn)
[11:16] <livingdaylight> basically, want to be able to access music from one place over a network rather than having a copy on each machine - i take that is what mpd is for - Ario looks like a nice frontend for it
[11:16] <mellys> driver is now 88%
[11:16] <peter_> dli: so if i wanted it to appear next to file system in places would i mount to /mnt/windows?
[11:16] <mellys> btw indy where can i find compiz i already install it
[11:16] <IndyGunFreak> mellys: you have a slow connection?
[11:16] <mellys> i cannot find compiz  on the system
[11:17] <Kuukkel^> I'm ashamed of myself that i actually TRIED Vista... It made XP look superior, i had 4 bluescreens a day and it kept asking "do you want to proceed?"
[11:17] <cantoma> hey guys, i am trying to use azureus but i am having a problem regarding the following: i am inside a university and the only not block port is 80 the internet one. Will I be able to use it?
[11:17] <IndyGunFreak> mellys: its in the repositories.. its like compiz-config-settings-mgr or something like that
[11:17] <mellys> its a slow pc this is my old pc
[11:17] <mellys> p4 1.8
[11:17] <dli> peter_, it will show up disregarding the folder location
[11:17] <JGodbout> dli: Ok, thanks
[11:17] <gartral> dli: i just gksu nautilus and did the copy, but, how can i set it up so that the desktop dackgrounds panel in the appearence settings watches that folder for new files?
[11:17] <peter_> dli: great thanks
[11:17] <IndyGunFreak> mellys: well, its not gonna run compiz very well.. how much ram does it have?
[11:17] <mellys> 256mb
[11:18] <dli> gartral, I don't know :(
[11:18] <carbontax> i dual boot xp but the default ati driver is not half bad
[11:18] <IndyGunFreak> mellys: you'd be silly to try and run compiz with any dazzling effects on that PC.
[11:18] <gartral> How can i set it up so that the desktop dackgrounds panel in the appearence settings watches that folder for new files?
[11:18] <dli> carbontax, I have r5xx card, pretty stable with 3D support
[11:18] <gartral> How can i set it up so that the desktop dackgrounds panel in the appearence settings watches /usr/share/backgrounds/ (my bad) folder for new files?
[11:19] <mellys> indy i got error while downloading "sorry, the jockey backend crahsed. please file a bug at: ubuntu-bug jockey-common
[11:19] <mellys> why it crash?
[11:19] <IndyGunFreak> mellys: now how would i know that just from that statement?
[11:19] <carbontax> ishould of got a desktop damn laptops nvr again
[11:19] <peter_> dli: sorry im having such a hard time. However i used sudo mount - a without any errors but windows still did not appear in places
[11:20] <mellys> i click activate again now its removing the driver
[11:20] <mellys> i wll reinstall it again
[11:20] <IndyGunFreak> carbontax: just depends on the laptop, i've got some old compaq laptops that other needing new batteries(7yrs old), they've been goodd.
[11:20] <Paddy_EIRE> mellys: I really would not bother with compiz on that computer even with basic effects
[11:20] <livingdaylight> !mpd
[11:20] <usimic> does anyone know of a good (gnu) sed (or regex) irc channel?
[11:20] <IndyGunFreak> Paddy_EIRE: i tried to tell him, but he seems determined...
[11:21] <Paddy_EIRE> mellys: try xubuntu's own composite manager.. ask in #xubuntu for support not here
[11:21] <carbontax>  just got a uncommon ati cuz it was for xp media center
[11:21] <mellys> ok thanks
[11:23] <error404notfound> i am going to buy an tv tuner card, any recommendations for that? which one is easy to install or gets detected by istelf?
[11:24] <Boohbah> usimic: #perl
[11:24] <Boohbah> usimic: or maybe #bash too
[11:24] <carbontax> what is TV?
[11:25] <dupondje> still have very low sound volume :(
[11:25] <Boohbah> carbontax: television?
[11:25] <usimic> Boohbah: thanks
[11:25] <dupondje> while volume is set @ max
[11:25] <carbontax> if the Ateam came back i would watch TV again
[11:27] <error404notfound> no recommendations?
[11:27] <gordonjcp> error404notfound: for what?
[11:27] <error404notfound> for a tv tunner card
[11:27] <gordonjcp> oh
[11:27] <gordonjcp> digital or analogue
[11:27] <IndyGunFreak> error404notfound: i've had good luck w/ Hauppage cards.. but typically the remote does not work
[11:28] <Kuukkel^> Well i'll come back in 1-2 months to ask about ATI drivers again, or check #ATI
[11:28] <IndyGunFreak> !hardware | error404notfound
[11:28] <error404notfound> hmmm
[11:28] <Kuukkel^> dli, thanks for the log thingie.
[11:28] <error404notfound> IndyGunFreak, thanks... thats what i have been looking for
[11:29] <gordonjcp> error404notfound: I'm about to buy a Hauppage Nova-T on the recommendation of several people
[11:29] <vikram_tough> (little offtopic but since i am on ubuntu ) i would like to know has anyone tried SNMP agent++ ?
[11:33] <christopher> how can i get my volume up more as it plays music softly adn all my volume levels are way up
[11:34] <Paddy_EIRE> christopher: In the sound mixers preferences enable any other available options (such as "surround/front etc..") then turn those sliders up in the mixer
[11:35] <christopher> ok will try that thanks'
[11:35] <gartral> How can i set it up so that the desktop dackgrounds panel in the appearence settings watches /usr/share/backgrounds/ (my bad) folder for new files?
[11:35] <genady12lap> hey, I am having problem: hci_cmd_task: hci0 command tx timeout
[11:36] <frojnd> Hello there. I already have intalled openSuse on my system. Now I'd like to test out ubuntu 8.04 on a usb drive. So I'll have dual boot just that ubuntu will be on a usb... What I don't know for sure is how to set mbr. I already have mbr that comes with openSuse. WHen I'll install ubuntu on a usb will there be any option if I wanna to install mbr or not? I don't wanna to override current boot options...
[11:37] <frojnd> How can I install ubuntu, so it will not use it's mbr but opensuse's ?
[11:38] <abird> Hello
[11:38] <frojnd> No ideas ?
[11:39] <Demonicdata> who was helping me with tor
[11:39] <myke> bye all
[11:39] <dli> Demonicdata, always start from the second question :(
[11:41] <Demonicdata> Essentially when i install tor,it initially lets me use vidalia,but then after i reboot/logoff tor is always running,it starts up tor daemon and vidalia can't shut it down or work.i tried completly removing all packages
[11:41] <wiseman> Cool, I just tried Saurbraten
[11:41] <wiseman> Sauerbraten
[11:41] <brennus> wiseman: what'd you think of sauerbraten?
[11:42] <wiseman> shit was so cash.  Looks pretty good and runs at like a million FPS on my computer.
[11:42] <wiseman> didn't play long, No mouse nearby my laptop
[11:42] <wiseman> but I need a new distraction.  Battle for Wesnoth is getting old.
[11:42] <brennus> wiseman: yea. people who play it are sorta dumb. But it's rad that it works so well
[11:43] <wiseman> I just played it...are you calling me dumb?
[11:43] <brennus> wiseman: lol. no. I do too.
[11:43] <gartral> How can i set it up so that the desktop dackgrounds panel in the appearence settings watches /usr/share/backgrounds/ folder for new files?
[11:46] <rashed2020> How do I know which version of a program is available through apt-get?
[11:46] <iceroot> rashed2020: apt-cache show programname
[11:47] <odder> I've already asked that question today in the night, but: is somebody willing to give me a hand setting up headset+microphone in ubuntu 8.10?
[11:48] <math> hello everybody ,i am new here
[11:49] <friendishan> !parsing
[11:50] <azazzs> anybody know how to fix rdp client keymap error when logging on to win2003 servers
[11:50] <ubuntu_> hi..
[11:50] <friendishan> ubuntu_ ...hi
[11:50] <ubuntu_> pulse audio isn't working in my system!!
[11:51] <ubuntu_> using ubuntu jaunty
[11:51] <rashed2020> I'm trying to install ejabberd, I want the one in the backports to be installed. How do I specify that from the CLI?
[11:51] <ubuntu_> fresh installation
[11:51] <Mindrocker> anybody here active in downloading torrent from www.thepiratebay.org  ?
[11:51] <friendishan> ubuntu_ u mean u installed jaunty freshly?
[11:51] <ubuntu_> yes
[11:51] <dli> ubuntu_, have you tried logging out and logging in again?
[11:52] <ubuntu_> i am testing..
[11:52] <ubuntu_> hence i am on live distro cd
[11:52] <friendishan> ubuntu_ u might want to read this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio
[11:52] <ubuntu_> if i select Pulse audio as output it doesn't work
[11:52] <ubuntu_> but other Oss based works
[11:52] <friendishan> ubuntu_ u might want to read this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio
[11:53] <friendishan> ubuntu_ read it
[11:53] <Demonicdata> i completly removed tor and related packages via synaptic but it says it was still running shesh
[11:53] <friendishan> mindrocker yes me
[11:53] <JediMaster> how do I permanently set an item in resolv.conf?
[11:53] <JediMaster> so that any dhcp / network manager won't overwrite it
[11:54] <dli> JediMaster, depends on the dhcp client :(
[11:54] <ubuntu_> friendishan, those are all for old version of ubuntu
[11:54] <ubuntu_> but i am now using Ubuntu 9
[11:54] <friendishan> ubntu_ wait
[11:54] <dli> JediMaster, instead of networkmanager, try wicd
[11:54] <JediMaster> dli: will do
[11:54] <Paddy_EIRE> ubuntu_: you mean 9.04
[11:54] <ubuntu_> yes
[11:54] <dli> JediMaster, wicd allows you to tweak dns server easily
[11:54] <JediMaster> ta
[11:54] <ubuntu_> isn't pulse is the defaultly installed?
[11:55] <friendishan> ubuntu_ which program do u use?
[11:55] <ubuntu_> totem media player
[11:55] <ubuntu_> to play audio
[11:55] <ubuntu_> I am using USB Based professional audio device
[11:56] <friendishan> ubuntu_ Open a Terminal window.
[11:56] <dli> ubuntu_, can you run: paman
[11:56] <ubuntu_> ok
[11:56] <friendishan> ubuntu_ type sudo apt-get install libasound2-plugins "pulseaudio-*" paman padevchooser paprefs pavucontrol pavumeter
[11:56] <ubuntu_> paman corrently not installed
[11:56] <ubuntu_> ok freindishan
[11:56] <ubuntu_> i do that now
[11:57] <friendishan> ubuntu_ this will help for ubuntu 9.04 too https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio
[11:58] <ubuntu_> friendishan, ok..
[11:58] <friendishan> ubuntu_ or go to Add/Remove and search for PulseAudio Manager
[11:58] <ubuntu_> hey its opened and running
[11:58] <ubuntu_> the manager
[11:58] <friendishan> search for paman or PulseAudio Manager
[11:59] <Decepticon> how should i modify my command to avoid these errors when making tarballs http://pastebin.ca/1430872
[11:59] <friendishan> search for paman or PulseAudio Manager ubuntu_
[11:59] <ubuntu_> friendishan, i have opened it
[11:59] <friendishan> ubuntu_ install it then
[11:59] <friendishan> !pulse audio
[11:59] <Paddy_EIRE> friendishan: he has it installed
[11:59] <ubuntu_> friendishan, it is installed and now i have opened the programme
[12:00] <friendishan> ubuntu_ sudo apt-get install libasound2-plugins "pulseaudio-*" paman padevchooser paprefs pavucontrol pavumeter
[12:00] <friendishan> ubuntu_ now it shud work
[12:01] <friendishan> !pulse
[12:01] <friendishan> ubuntu_ PulseAudio is a sound server intended as a drop-in replacement for !ESD - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio for information and installation instructions
[12:01] <ubuntu_> friendishan, ok..
[12:01] <friendishan> ubuntu_ sorry man i gotta go
[12:01] <ubuntu_> hey anybody?
[12:02] <ubuntu_> i have installed as frendishan said..
[12:02] <ubuntu_> but now no audio
[12:02] <wolinowski> hello
[12:03] <kezee> vendor of soundcard?
[12:03] <ubuntu_> Using usb based Professional audio device
[12:03] <wolinowski> system jest super
[12:03] <gordonjcp> ubuntu_: What exactly are you trying to do?
[12:03] <ubuntu_> trying to get audio out..
[12:03] <wolinowski> czy ktoś tu mówi po polsku
[12:03] <ubuntu_> no sound in my system
[12:04] <flashingpumpkin> oi. short question: i've just reinstalled ubuntu, and on the live cd i had those fancy desktop effects, but after installation, they're gone - and i can't turn them on in the settings :(
[12:04] <LLStarks> hi. vpnc dns is broken in jaunty and karmic.
[12:04] <LLStarks> is there a way around this?
[12:04] <mrwes> flashingpumpkin, System | Administration | Appearance
[12:05] <flashingpumpkin> mrwes, as i said, i can't turn it on
[12:05] <gordonjcp> ubuntu_: what kind of sound card?
[12:06] <flashingpumpkin> "the desktop effects can't be activated"
[12:06] <mrwes> flashingpumpkin, hrmm... check System | Admin | Hardware Drivers for a video card drive to enable
[12:06] <ubuntu_> gordonjcp, USB Based professional sound devce
[12:06] <ubuntu_> gordonjcp, AUDIOBOX USB
[12:06] <ubuntu_> gordonjcp, PRESONUS AUDIOBOX USB
[12:06] <flashingpumpkin> mrwes, nothing there
[12:07] <mrwes> dunno then
[12:07] <gordonjcp> ubuntu_: Presonus hasn't got brilliant support in Linux
[12:07] <Kuukkel^> hmmh
[12:07] <ubuntu_> gordonjcp, yes i know.. but previously i used it on ubuntu 8.10
[12:07] <gordonjcp> ubuntu_: oh, okay
[12:07] <gordonjcp> ubuntu_: well howevery you set it up in 8.10 should still work in 9.04
[12:08] <Demonicdata> ok I'm at my wits end here
[12:08] <Demonicdata> Someone
[12:08] <ubuntu_> gordonjcp, yes, but i used alsa previously
[12:08] <ubuntu_> gordonjcp, i mean it worked on alsa based thing..
[12:08] <Demonicdata> I install friggin tor and apparently it sets up a tor daemon to run at boot,now I DO not want it to boot I want to be able to launch it from vidalia,which doesn't work as tor is already running
[12:08] <Demonicdata> anyone able to help me
[12:09] <Demonicdata> !help vidalia
[12:09] <lars_bauer> howto get mysqldb
[12:09] <gordonjcp> Demonicdata: is there anything in /etc/defaults for it
[12:09] <EvilRick> hey guys running ubuntu server with openvpn 2.1rc11 . I used to be able to get the server to auth against a script but now the $password environment variable is no longer being set. Is it possible that its a policy problem. I'm not sure how the policy kit functions.
[12:09] <gordonjcp> ubuntu_: you need to get rid of pulseaudio
[12:09] <ubuntu_> gordonjcp, ok.. how?
[12:09] <gordonjcp> ubuntu_: Ubuntu in general needs to get rid of it
[12:09] <flashingpumpkin> how can i find out, which drivers the live cd loads ?
[12:09] <flashingpumpkin> specifically, graphics drivers
[12:09] <gordonjcp> ubuntu_: I don't know, that's why I stopped using Ubuntu
[12:10] <ubuntu_> gordonjcp, really??
[12:10] <flashingpumpkin> and which composite manager it uses?
[12:10] <ubuntu_> oh god..
[12:10] <ubuntu_> anybody pls..
[12:11] <flashingpumpkin> ubuntu_, can you switch back to alsa ?
[12:11] <ubuntu_> flashingpumpkin, audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Could not open audio device for playback.
[12:12] <frojnd> On short, how can I achieve after ububtu installation is complete. That I'd still have suse's bootloader but with option to choose ubuntu to boot? Dual boot just that MBE would be from opensuse?
[12:12] <ubuntu_> problem if i switched to alsa
[12:12] <flashingpumpkin> i've had quite funny sound behaviour in 8.10 - it wouldn't play sometimes at all when flash was started first, switched then everything specifically to alsa and it worked :-o
[12:13] <ubuntu_> flashingpumpkin, ok but for me its not working here..
[12:13] <flashingpumpkin> :|
[12:13] <Boohbah> frojnd: setup your grub entry for ubuntu from suse
[12:13] <ubuntu_> flashingpumpkin, :(
[12:14] <frojnd> Boohbah: after installation?
[12:14] <flashingpumpkin> i've had messages like that when trying to apply something else than alsa ' could not open audio device for playback '
[12:15] <frojnd> Boohbah: is there a wiki or anything that would help me do this?
[12:15] <ubuntu_> hmmm.. anybody here can help me? :(
[12:15] <Gautam> win
[12:15] <Gautam> #win
[12:15] <System404> I LOVE UBUNTU
[12:16] <Gautam> can you plz tell me how can i go to win room ?
[12:16] <System404> #windows
[12:16] <ubuntu_> System404, Me too..
[12:16] <Gautam> #windows
[12:16] <ubuntu_> System404, LOVE UBUNTU
[12:16] <System404> LOVE UBUNTU
[12:16] <ubuntu_> System404, & My girl friend..
[12:16] <System404> lol
[12:16] <System404> yeah i love her 2
[12:16] <Gautam> what should i type here ?
[12:16] <System404> hahahaha
[12:16] <FloodBot3> System404: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:17] <System404> type /join ##windows
[12:17] <System404> just copy and paste that in
[12:17] <gartral> How can i set it up so that the desktop dackgrounds panel in the appearence settings watches /usr/share/backgrounds/ folder for new files?
[12:17] <kise> Hi, i have some trouble finding a string with sed in a html file.. i am trying to change width=60% with width=100%
[12:17] <Gautam> System404 : yes i m there...thanks :)
[12:17] <System404> np
[12:17] <kise> sed "s/width=60%/width=100%/g" B-3-2005.htm
[12:17] <System404> lucky u Gautam im banned from ##windows
[12:18] <ubuntu_> help me plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[12:18] <System404> with wat ubuntu___
[12:19] <Demonicdata> is there a daemon management app that lets you turn on/off daemons that boot?
[12:19] <ubuntu_> System404, Pulse audio not working..
[12:19] <System404> explain
[12:19] <System404> be precise
[12:19] <ubuntu_> System404, i am using ubuntu 9.04
[12:19] <ubuntu_> System404, fresh installation
[12:19] <mrwes> Demonicdata, system | admin | startup apps  maybe?
[12:20] <System404> and you have no audio
[12:20] <flashingpumpkin> Demonicdata, System | Administration | Services / Daeomons / Whatever it is in english
[12:20] <Demonicdata> it isn't in the services-admin already checked
[12:20] <ubuntu_> System404, yeah .. but oss working.. not pulse audio
[12:20] <mrwes> Demonicdata, system | prefs | startup apps
[12:20] <System404> wats wrong with oss it works well
[12:20] <System404> it may b old but it works
[12:20] <ubuntu_> System404, yes
[12:20] <ubuntu_> System404, but in cinelerra it doesn't work..
[12:21] <ubuntu_> System404, niether alsa, oss, esound..
[12:21] <Demonicdata> Neither startup apps nor services show the tor daemon i'm trying to stop from running on boot
[12:21] <System404> im not familiar with cinelerra
[12:21] <gaby> salut
[12:21] <ubuntu_> System404, previously it was working in ubuntu 8.10
[12:21] <Kalmi> imho he could just remove pulseaudio with apt-get and everything would be fine...
[12:21] <System404> wat kernel are u running in 9.04
[12:21] <System404> does it end in 11 or 12
[12:21] <mrwes> Demonicdata, check /etc/init.d
[12:21] <ubuntu_> kalmi, really thats easy?
[12:22] <ubuntu_> 11
[12:22] <System404> i had a few issues with my 9.04 install but when kernal updated everything just worked
[12:22] <System404> get kernal 12
[12:22] <RkRaj> Hi does anybody tell me how to use sed command in Bash Shell
[12:22] <ubuntu_> where System404?
[12:22] <Boohbah> RkRaj: man sed
[12:23] <mrwes> Demonicdata, might also be in /etc/rc.d
[12:23] <RkRaj> Boohbah: Being a beginner i cant understand
[12:24] <Kalmi> ubuntu_, could you try changing to ALSA? System->Preferences->Sound and change
[12:25] <RkRaj> Boohbah:  pls reply me
[12:26] <ibralnet> Hi all, do any body know how can I compress folders in shell ?
[12:26] <RkRaj> ibralnet: are you a bash shell programmer
[12:27] <ibralnet> how can I know this ?
[12:27] <RkRaj> ibralnet: i am trying with that
[12:27] <dbaker2> what is the name of the package for installing sun java? I want to install jedit but it installing openJDK as default
[12:28] <EvilRick> is tehre any reason ubuntu would fail to pass the $password environment variable to a script from openvpn server. I get everything else but not $password and I do get it on my debian system.
[12:28] <ibralnet> RkRaj: with what ?
[12:28] <System404> im jewish
[12:28] <gartral> How can i set it up so that the desktop dackgrounds panel in the appearence settings watches /usr/share/backgrounds/ folder for new files?
[12:28] <Boohbah> RkRaj: http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/Sed.html
[12:28] <System404> haha im not really
[12:28] <RkRaj> ibralnet: now i am programming in Bash shell script
[12:29] <ibralnet> RkRaj: sorry I'm not a bash shell programmer
[12:29] <ibralnet> RkRaj: just a simple user
[12:29] <System404> Im Just A Simple Jew
[12:29] <odder> hm
[12:30] <RkRaj> Boohbah: Thankyou a lot for helping me may i know your name and location
[12:30] <odder> I have managed my microphone to work and am able to record my voice in the sound recorder app from alacarte; i am however unable to hear my voice in a skype call -- does anybody know how to fix it?
[12:30] <RkRaj> ibralnet:  Hi here i am also a beginner let us discuss what each of us know
[12:31] <Boohbah> RkRaj: my name is Boohbah and my location is at the computer
[12:31] <lars_bauer> dli thx i removed the *.bak files
[12:31] <RkRaj> Boohbah: good reply!
[12:31] <ibralnet> RkRaj: OK why not ? it just that I need this now
[12:31] <Kalmi> Do you have lolcatz here too?
[12:31] <ibralnet> RkRaj: for my work
[12:32] <RkRaj> ibralnet: Now only i have learnt to use simple if statements and some while statements
[12:33] <RkRaj>    S1='CD'
[12:33] <RkRaj> S2='DVD'
[12:33] <RkRaj>         if [ $S1=$S2 ];
[12:33] <RkRaj>         then
[12:33] <RkRaj>                 echo "('$S1') is not equal to ('$S2')"
[12:33] <RkRaj>         fi
[12:33] <FloodBot3> RkRaj: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:33] <helper> :P
[12:34] <ibralnet> RkRaj: ah you mean that you're learning a shell programming ?
[12:34] <helper> seems so
[12:34] <ibralnet> RkRaj: sorry I know just simple unix command
[12:34] <hhhh> hello
[12:35] <Boohbah> RkRaj: ibralnet: #bash is also a good channel
[12:35] <RkRaj> ibralnet: yes of course  tell me syntax for using nested if else statement
[12:35] <ibralnet> RkRaj: I've ne use this before
[12:35] <Boohbah> RkRaj: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[12:35] <hhhh> i wanto to have some informations about samba configuration in ubuntu server 9.04?can you help me
[12:35] <floating> if i install jaunty now for my laptop that has intel 915gm, will i have to do all kind of manual tweaking to get over the graphics problems that 9.04 has had with intel ?
[12:35] <ibralnet> and I solve my problem with "zip" command
[12:36] <ibralnet> zip -9 -r <zip file> <folder name>
[12:36] <RkRaj> Boohbah: I have tryed that link but still i cant use nested if else Statement
[12:36] <hhhh> this command don't work help me
[12:36] <procits> hhhh: there are many places in the net, just search
[12:36] <floating> should i install ubuntu 8 instead ?
[12:37] <procits> hhhh: Samba conf isn't so hard
[12:37] <mrdeadlocked> trying to upgrade a package has caused a problem. `Conflicts' field, reference to `bonobo-activation': error in version: nothing after colon in version number
[12:37] <hhhh> procits : yes but when i use smbclient his doesent work
[12:37] <ZeroBeholder> I am in a bind.  I have been happily performing my job using Ubuntu with very little knowledge about the deeper workings of Ubuntu.  I test a lot of laptop motherboards, whereas Windows has problems with drivers all the time-- Ubuntu figures out the video and sound settings as well as the other mechanics with a quick boot from a live disk.  But, my boss wants to see that the drivers are loaded and if I can't show him, then I have to go back to installi
[12:37] <greatlord> Hi
[12:38] <greatlord> I need help to make dvb-c drv compile right
[12:38] <RkRaj> Boohbah: Pls tell me syntax for nested if else statement
[12:38] <ZeroBeholder> So, I guess my question is what command do I need to show him everything is good like Device Manager?
[12:38] <Boohbah> ZeroBeholder: 'sudo lsmod' will show loaded kernel modules
[12:39] <dbaker2> what is the difference between java jdk and jre. Which one do I need to run jedit on ubuntu?
[12:39] <hhhh> procits : can y help me if you want ?
[12:39] <ZeroBeholder> I'm going to go upstairs and try it, will it also show anything not loaded?  Thank you BTW...
[12:40] <mrdeadlocked> http://pastebin.com/m18ac6772  here's the entire problem i'm having cli output.
[12:40] <RkRaj> dbaker2: You need both but the difference is that using JDK you can develop and you can run the program only if you have the JRE
[12:40] <mrdeadlocked> If anyone has some spare time and could look at it.
[12:40] <greatlord> I have a mantis dvb-c card, I need a drv for it, l4v-dvb does not have a drv yet, I found out a drv at http://jusst.de/hg/mantis, my problem is I mange get it compile on linux kernel 2.6.28-9, but when it load it say symbol m86a16_attach missing, or kernel module  wrong
[12:40] <Boohbah> RkRaj: you can find one by looking at scripts already on your system, for example /etc/init.d/halt
[12:41] <RkRaj> Boohbah: Let me see and then i will be back
[12:41] <Broken_Ubuntu> Hi... I enabled restricted drivers suggested in ubuntu when I looked at the hardware options and no when I try to boot to my linux partition it will show the loading screen for a sec then just flicker a black screen
[12:41] <Broken_Ubuntu> How do I get ubuntu to work
[12:41] <dbaker2> RkRaj: so why do I need both? For running it don't I need only jre?
[12:42] <hhhh> i have a problem with samba configuration can you help me please?
[12:42] <greatlord> any one known about dvb stuuf here ?
[12:42] <ZeroBeholder> My brother turned me on to ubuntu, I had the same problem.  He said something about my GRUB loader...
[12:42] <Broken_Ubuntu> Do i need to reinstall ubuntu completly?
[12:43] <RkRaj> dbaker2:  yes ofcourse you can have only JRE for because Jedit is as same as JDK in wndows
[12:43] <ZeroBeholder> I have ubuntu and winxp on my think pad, he did not reload ubuntu.  Unfortunately, I do not know what he did do.
[12:43] <dbaker2>  RkRaj:Jedit is as same as JDK in wndows?
[12:44] <Broken_Ubuntu> Does anyone know how to make it so I can get back into ubuntu... i'm thinking it may be as easy as turning off the restricted video drivers but i don't know how to do that
[12:44] <robdig> mrdeadlocked: looks like the package itself has an error, recommend that you open a bug on it
[12:44] <mazin> guys why i cannt use my mirc scirpt on ubuntu
[12:44] <RkRaj> dbaker2:  yes! But jedit is more powerful than JDK in windows according to my knowledge
[12:44] <Boohbah> mazin: because mirc doesn't run on ubuntu
[12:44] <mazin> cool boohbah how i can find irc work on ubuntu
[12:45] <Boohbah> mazin: i like irssi
[12:45] <Boohbah> mazin: also try xchat
[12:45] <dbaker2> RkRaj: isn't jdk - java development kit? what jedit has to do with this?
[12:45] <mrdeadlocked> robdig: How/where do I do that?
[12:45] <dbaker2> RkRaj: How can you compare an editor to a development kit?
[12:45] <mazin> xchat i will try did u try this x chat boohbah on undernet ?
[12:45] <greatlord> I am thinking of gooing back to windows xp, it seam dvb card are badly supproted in linux
[12:46] <Boohbah> mazin: yup
[12:46] <robdig> mrdeadlocked: https://bugs.launchpad.net/
[12:46] <carbontax> greatlord: set up metibuntu http://tinyurl.com/5aqnq8 should help you with the dvd codex
[12:46] <mazin> cool can u flood .. bnc ...emechs all these stuff on ubuntu
[12:46] <RkRaj>  dbaker2:  i told you in sense that you can also compile some java codes in jedit by using some plugins it will work like JDK
[12:47] <greatlord> carbontax, dvd is not dvb
[12:47] <ZeroBeholder> Broken Ubuntu, I have no idea what I am doing, but take a look at this http://ubuntu4life.blogspot.com/2007/09/fix-grub-loader-if-your-grub-is.html or just google "fix ubuntu grub loader"
[12:47] <greatlord> dvb is digtal tvcard
[12:47] <carbontax> oh
[12:47] <greatlord> I need mantis drv
[12:47] <dbaker2> RkRaj: ok. thanks
[12:47] <ZeroBeholder> Seems pretty straight forward if you have the same problem I did.
[12:47] <gnulab> hi everyone
[12:48] <RkRaj>  dbaker2:  Do you know bash Shell script programming?
[12:48] <mazin> guyz some one give me a link to download the irc for ubuntu plz
[12:48] <carbontax> debian might have some something
[12:48] <Boohbah> mazin: i suppose you can, but i don't personally approve of those things
[12:48] <greatlord> carbontax, any idea how to get mantis drv into ubuntu I will be great help
[12:48] <dbaker2> RkRaj: a bit
[12:48] <greatlord> I am bit new on linux
[12:48] <Boohbah> !hi | gnulab
[12:48] <mazin> boohbah can ya give me a link to download irc for ubuntu
[12:49] <RkRaj>  dbaker2:  pls tell me how to use nested if else statement
[12:49] <mrdeadlocked> robdig: I searched for libbonobo2-common and didnt find it on launchpad. Am I doing it wrong.
[12:49] <Boohbah> mazin: in ubuntu we normally install software from repositories, so 'sudo apt-get install xchat'
[12:50] <dbaker2>  RkRaj: sorry. don't know that
[12:50] <gnulab> when I first installed ubuntu 9.04, whenever I plugged in a SD Card (from camera), an icon of the sd card will appear on my desktop automatically.
[12:50] <ActionParsnip1> !info xchat
[12:50] <robdig> mrdeadlocked: just search for libbonobo
[12:50] <Broken_Ubuntu> Does anyone know how to make it so I can get back into ubuntu... i'm thinking it may be as easy as turning off the restricted video drivers but i don't know how to do that
[12:50] <carbontax> greatlord: sorry im not sure how to use that stuff nvr have
[12:50] <RkRaj>  dbaker2:  Pls tell me what is sed command
[12:50] <gnulab> Now, it doesn't do that anymore, how do I turn back on that feature?
[12:50] <ActionParsnip1> Broken_Ubuntu: use: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:50] <ActionParsnip1> Broken_Ubuntu: then restart x
[12:51] <dbaker2> RkRaj: can't help. sorry
[12:51] <junxie> hello
[12:51] <greatlord> can I run this drv into ubunto
[12:51] <greatlord> http://www.twinhan.com/files/AW/Linux/AZLinux_v1.4.2_CI_FC6.tar.gz
[12:51] <robdig> RkRaj: sed is a batch (or stream) editor
[12:52] <keko> been having problems with pulseaudio with skype. It's a known problem on 9.04, yes?
[12:52] <RkRaj>  dbaker2:  ok pls tell me how can i install codecs such as mp3,3gp etc in the system which does not have internet connection
[12:52] <Artissimo> How can I start Network Manager?
[12:53] <devil_ubuntu> ciao
[12:53] <mr-ali> ho
[12:53] <mr-ali> hi
[12:53] <mr-ali> هلا
[12:53] <mr-ali> السلام عليكم
[12:53] <FloodBot3> mr-ali: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:53] <mrdeadlocked> Anyone here have a launchpad account? Willing to post up my pastebin for libbonobo.
[12:53] <jrib> mrdeadlocked: launchpad accounts are free.  And you don't need one to pastebin
[12:53] <RkRaj> mrdeadlocked:  Yes i have
[12:53] <Artissimo> Is my network-manager borked?
[12:53] <gnulab> artissimo: system-> preferences -> network connection
[12:53] <ActionParsnip1> greatlord: i'd say try it
[12:53] <dbaker2> RkRaj: don't know
[12:53] <devil_ubuntu> hello i'm italian...and i speak english not very good...hehe
[12:54] <Artissimo> gnulab - thanks, i will try that
[12:54] <robdig> !sa | mr-ali
[12:54] <RkRaj> dbaker2: are you a beginner in linux
[12:54] <ActionParsnip1> mrdreadlocked: get one, its free
[12:54] <Artissimo> also, what do i need to add to /etc/ssh/ssh-config to allow remote connections, gnulab
[12:54] <ActionParsnip1> !it > devil_ubuntu
[12:54] <dbaker2> RkRaj:  yes
[12:54] <co20_> hi
[12:54] <mrdeadlocked> Pastebin requires login..and account creation. Lots of stuff is free. Doesn't mean I want another misc online login to remeer. :-P
[12:54] <jrib> !pastebin | mrdeadlocked
[12:54] <devil_ubuntu> i dont undertand never
[12:54] <jrib> mrdeadlocked: it does not
[12:54] <RkRaj> dbaker2: OK nop problem do you have any doubt in linux
[12:55] <mrdeadlocked> Did i say pastebin?
[12:55] <mrdeadlocked> I said launchpad.
[12:55] <ActionParsnip1> mrdreadlock: pastebin doesnt require an account
[12:55] <mrdeadlocked> I already have the pastebin up.
[12:55] <jrib> mrdeadlocked: you said pastebin...
[12:55] <dbaker2> RkRaj: ?
[12:55] <devil_ubuntu> i go out now
[12:55] <mrdeadlocked> I said login to launcpad and post my pastebin
[12:55] <devil_ubuntu> by by
[12:55] <ActionParsnip1> ok....
[12:55] <carbontax> pastebay you need to do anything but paste it its at the PB website
[12:55] <mrdeadlocked> Anyone here have a launchpad account? Willing to post up my pastebin for libbonobo.
[12:56] <jrib> mrdeadlocked: in any case.  If you want to use launchpad, create an account for it.  Don't ask to use other people's accounts here
[12:56] <carbontax> http://pastebay.com/
[12:56] <ActionParsnip1> mrdeadlocked: why do you need a launchpad account to use pastebin?
[12:56] <gnulab> artissimo: sorry, I'm just a beginner, not sure about that one.. but to allow incoming connection you'd need to open the particular port (if you had firewall installed), installed the necessary server/daemon program, and probably assign username/password
[12:56] <mrdeadlocked> I never asked to use there account myself.
[12:56] <mrdeadlocked> ActionParsnip: I need a launchpad account to post a bug.
[12:56] <RkRaj> dbaker2: you can ask me if you have any confusion in linux upto my knowledge i can help you
[12:56] <JediMaster> what's the option in smb.conf for samba to force a particular user's permissions/owernship when creating files?
[12:56] <ActionParsnip1> mrdeadlocked: just create the url using the pastebin, then copy and paste the url you go to (in the address bar) into the channel
[12:57] <dbaker2> RkRaj: thanks
[12:57] <ActionParsnip1> JediMaster: i believe so, gimme a sec
[12:57] <gnulab> hi, how do I make my sd card automatically pop up (just like autorun in windows) whenever it's plugged into my system?
[12:57] <mrdeadlocked> ActionParsnip: wth are you talking about...I ALREADY have the pastebin. I just didnt want to create an account for ONE program bug.
[12:57] <Guest97655> can you help me i have a error when i restart samba in ubuntu server 9.04??
[12:57] <mrdeadlocked> http://pastebin.com/m18ac6772 <--see pastebin
[12:58] <JediMaster> ActionParsnip1: ta, are you permanently logged in here, I don't think I've ever not seen the parsnip in here when logging in lol
[12:58] <RkRaj> dbaker2: Are you online?
[12:59] <Twiglet> hey, i'me mounted a 2nd drive and used "sudo chown user:user /mount/point/" to give me access but i can only read and write, not delete... how would i go about giving myself full access?
[12:59] <jrib> Twiglet: what filesystem?
[12:59] <Twiglet> ext3
[12:59] <Decepticon> whats the best tool to use for backing up when ive got dirs inside dirs and some dirs i dont want and some i want and its too much of a hassle to do tar --exclude=so/many/times!
[13:00] <ZeroBeholder> Boohbah, I'm sure you already know it works... Thanks 'sudo lsmod' worked.
[13:00] <jrib> !permissions > Twiglet
[13:00] <jrib> Twiglet: pastebin your issues
[13:00] <EvilRick> I found a bug in the ubuntu openvpn init script. Who can I chat to about it.
[13:00] <mrdeadlocked> i'm on facation until tuesday, SO if it doesnt get fixed by tuesday (from other ppl having issues) i'll make a damng launchpad account.
[13:00] <mrdeadlocked> vacation^
[13:00] <Boohbah> ZeroBeholder: and it makes your boss happy?
[13:00] <ActionParsnip1> JediMaster: http://pastebin.com/d617095d2
[13:00] <Twiglet> thanks
[13:00] <bluegoon> Hi guys, with regards to php, im trying to learn php and setting it up on my 9.04 installation, however, my /var/www/ folder does not have write permissions, why would that be?
[13:00] <ZeroBeholder> Not at work yet.
[13:00] <jrib> mrdeadlocked: thank you for your contribution
[13:01] <Herald> hey all
[13:01] <mrdeadlocked> Saved the links just incase.
[13:01] <mrdeadlocked> Now to go pack and drive 6 hours...
[13:01] <Guest97655> Guest18551 : can you help me i have a error when i restart samba in ubuntu server 9.04??
[13:01] <helper> why sometimes program movie player, VLC, realplayer got crash when i play or sometimes it work but no sound ?
[13:01] <mrdeadlocked> arent vacations supposed tobe relaxing
[13:01] <maxagaz> smbldap-useradd -w myhost doesn't set a SambaSID in the LDAP, why ?
[13:01] <Lights86> i have a question, does youtube just have a problem with 9.04 or is there a solution, it just looks wierd and I cannot use the full screen
[13:01] <Herald> maxagaz: probably better off asking #samba
[13:02] <bluegoon> how do you see read write permissions of files in the terminal again?
[13:02] <ZeroBeholder> Boohbah, I'm at home still.  But, I think he will be satisfied to see the devices loaded.  I will compare a few boards side-by-side for him.
[13:02] <Herald> bluegoon: chmod
[13:02] <jrib> !permissions > bluegoon
[13:02] <bluegoon> Herald, thanks
[13:02] <Artissimo> How do you get a network connection if you don't have Network-Manager installed?
[13:03] <Herald> bluegoon: oh, sorry, to *see* permissions ls -l <filename>
[13:03] <gnulab> artissimo: what version are you using? coz it's supposed to be installed automatically
[13:03] <bluegoon> thanks Herals
[13:03] <Artissimo> gnulab, I removed it
[13:03] <bluegoon> Herald*
[13:03] <Artissimo> gnulab: according to this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1098921
[13:03] <Herald> np
[13:03] <maxagaz> Herald, nobody answers there
[13:03] <bluegoon> Herald, how do i change the write permissions to the folder /var/www  ?
[13:04] <Artissimo> gnulab: am i screwed?
[13:04] <gnulab> artissimo: hehee, maybe.. I'm a newbie too.
[13:04] <Artissimo> damn
[13:04] <Herald> bluegoon: chmod -R <permissions> /var/www
[13:05] <friendishan> !ubottu
[13:05] <bluegoon> Herald, thanks mate
[13:05] <friendishan> !pici
[13:05] <gnulab> artissimo: I'm guessing it must be you install something
[13:05] <friendishan> !friendishan
[13:05] <Guest97655> alo
[13:05] <Hash-Heesh> My sound is very low for some reason on Ubuntu 9.04(I'm new). The volume bar is maxed yet its very quiet...
[13:06] <friendishan> !ubuntu project
[13:06] <Hash-Heesh> Can someone help me please
[13:06] <helper> !tc
[13:06] <greatlord> Herald on some else any idea how to get http://jusst.de/hg/mantis drv to ubuntu with kernel 2.6.28-9 ???
[13:06] <bluegoon> Herald, by <permissions> what do you mean? Can you supply an example perhaps/
[13:06] <friendishan> Hash-Heesh what help?
[13:06] <bluegoon> Herald, perhaps*
[13:06] <Herald> bluegoon: chmod -R 755 /var/www/
[13:06] <friendishan> Hash-Heesh tell me your problem i'll try to help
[13:07] <bluegoon> Herald, ah ok, thanks man
[13:07] <Herald> bluegoon: 755 is read/write to owner, read to everyone else
[13:07] <bluegoon> Herald, sweet dude, thanks.
[13:07] <Herald> er, and execute
[13:07] <Hash-Heesh> how do you private message?
[13:07] <bluegoon> Herald, so 777 would be open to all?
[13:07] <Herald> yes
[13:07] <Artissimo> Ok this is stupid.
[13:07] <gartral> How can i set it up so that the desktop dackgrounds panel in the appearence settings watches that folder for new files?
[13:08] <Artissimo> You can't get a network connection without this stupid gnome network manager
[13:08] <Artissimo> how the hell am I supposed to get back online and download a different network manager
[13:08] <gartral> !attitude | Artissimo
[13:08] <bluegoon> Herald, thanks dude, awesome :)
[13:09] <Herald> bluegoon: first digit is owner, then group, then everyone else - 4 = read, 2 = write, 1 = execute. add them up to give them perm you want
[13:09] <bluegoon> Herald, thanks man
[13:09] <abchirk> Hi, I am trying to run java 3d applets, without success which package I do need to install to have this 3d working? http://tinyurl.com/qwxdf2
[13:10] <friendishan> !volume
[13:10] <frojnd> I've installed ubuntu 8.04 (without bootloader) since I already have one from opensuse. Now I mounted the partition to /mnt/ but I can't find /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst Where could I find it?
[13:10] <frojnd> in /mnt/boot/ there are only images..
[13:10] <frojnd> any ideas ?
[13:11] <abchirk> maybe wrong partition?
[13:11] <frojnd> abchirk: nope
[13:11] <zenxr> abchirck: depends on your distro but http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1125402
[13:11] <sleep> !thanks
[13:11] <little_noob> hi, i just installed ubuntu 9.04 x64, and i have trouble getting my tv-card and my optical out on my intel hda STAC9271D soundcard. i tried to add options snd-hda-intel model=ref and model=5stack into my /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf. still it doesnt work. for my tv card do i still need to install a special firmware for it?
[13:11] <abchirk> zenxr, is that also for 3d? :)
[13:11] <abchirk> And I have Jaunty
[13:12] <zenxr> abchirck: java runtime is the 3d one :p
[13:12] <abchirk> frojnd, what is in boot no grub dir?
[13:12] <greatlord> little_noob, u also problem with u tv-card :)
[13:12] <frojnd> abchirk: I'm pretty sure it's ubuntu's hardy since I can go to /mnt/etc/apt/ and tehre I can see surces.lst
[13:12] <greatlord> me too
[13:12] <little_noob> greatlord, seems so :)
[13:12] <Herald> anyone know a way of customising multi-monitor setups to assign a workspace to each monitor?
[13:12] <zenxr> abchirck: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-java-runtime-environment-jre-in-ubuntu-904-jaunty.html
[13:12] <kimf> frojnd: Did you mount the suse partition in ubuntu or the other way around?
[13:12] <frojnd> kimf: in suse
[13:12] <little_noob> greatlord, its recognized but kaffeine cant find channels and the computer stucks while its searching
[13:12] <zenxr> abchirck: sorry but i have to go
[13:12] <abchirk> an zenwryly I installed only jre without java-bin.. maybe thats it
[13:12] <frojnd> kimf: ubuntu partition in suse
[13:13] <frojnd> abchirk: abi-2.6.24-16-generic  config-2.6.24-16-generic  initrd.img-2.6.24-16-generic  initrd.img-2.6.24-16-generic.bak  memtest86+.bin  System.map-2.6.24-16-generic  vmlinuz-2.6.24-16-generic
[13:13] <greatlord> little_noob,  my isssue is it can not found symbol mb86a16_attach
[13:13] <frojnd> abchirk: that's in the /mnt/boot/
[13:13] <kimf> frojnd: Then there will not be a menu.lst file on the ubuntu partition since you didn't install grub for it. Need to edit the one in suse
[13:13] <abchirk> frojnd, maybe your grub is under the real root... in /boot
[13:13] <frojnd> What I'm trying to do is to dual boot with ubuntu, but use opensuse bootloader
[13:13] <rawleto> hi there
[13:14] <abchirk> hi
[13:14] <dontknownuthin> hello
[13:14] <DEMU> comment pourrait-on installer Nerolinux sous ubuntu 9.4
[13:14] <rawleto> oowriter v3.0 couldn't export text in .xml
[13:14] <frojnd> abchirk: my real grub is /boot/grub/menu.lst
[13:14] <abchirk> eh, then use it!? :)
[13:14] <frojnd> kimf: erm.. but how can I enter in my suse's menu.lst so I will be able to dual boot with ubuntu
[13:14] <gartral> !Hi | dontknownuthin
[13:14] <rawleto> what OO want from me?)
[13:14] <frojnd> don't know exactly how to edit grub
[13:15] <friendishan_> !pici
[13:15] <frojnd> can someone point me so I won't mess anything UP ?
[13:15] <gartral> is there a plugin or option availible that makes the "click to see new messages" feature go away, so no matter what the state, i always get my buddy list on the *first* click?
[13:15] <greatlord> little_noob,  I need some help to get the drv to load
[13:15] <gartral> How can i set it up so that the desktop dackgrounds panel in the appearence settings watches /usr/share/backgrounds/ folder for new files?
[13:15] <fibble> ls
[13:15] <little_noob> greatlord, which card do you own?
[13:15] <dontknownuthin> is it better to partition a drive or use a seperate one?
[13:15] <areels> how can i edit pdf files on ubuntu?
[13:15] <greatlord> twinham mantis
[13:15] <friendishan_> ubottu how is pici stuck hope u understand
[13:15] <enzotib> areels: pdfedit
[13:15] <abchirk> !grub
[13:15] <Gautam> can anybody tell me how to install openoffice 3.0 ?
[13:15] <areels> thanks enzotib
[13:16] <little_n00b> test
[13:16] <frojnd> abchirk: I'll take a look at it, thanx
[13:16] <Decepticon> test failed!
[13:16] <greatlord> little_n00b,   twinham mantis dvb-c
[13:16] <abchirk> frojnd, but normally Ubuntu adds a grub entry for you during install
[13:16] <Gautam> plz help me to install openoffice
[13:17] <fibble> sudo apt-get install openoffice?
[13:17] <jrib> Gautam: openoffice is installed by default on ubuntu?
[13:17] <frojnd> abchirk: I didn't wannt ubuntu's grub...
[13:17] <gartral> jrib: es
[13:17] <fibble> depends, maybe the server version :P
[13:17] <abchirk> ok
[13:17] <frojnd> abchirk: in the first place. I wannted to keep suse's
[13:18] <DEMU> Gautam: can you please tell me the version of ubuntu you are using?
[13:18] <jon5000> hello.  I am using 8.04 on a dell inspiron 9300 and i would like to change the tap sensitivity of the mouse pad.  i dont want to disable, just make less sensitive.  i have changed "option maxtaptime" in xorg but it seems to have no effect.
[13:18] <gartral> How can i set it up so that the desktop dackgrounds panel in the appearence settings watches /usr/share/backgrounds/ folder for new files?
[13:18] <Gautam> jrib : yes it is...its installed but some pptx file image were not showing ...they shows OLE instead....so i installed openoffice 3.0 ...but i failed then i removed openoffice 2.4 which was intalled previously ....now nothing is working
[13:19] <dontknownuthin> is it "safer" to use a seperate drive for ubuntu rather than just partitioning?
[13:19] <friendishan_> !ubuntu
[13:19] <friendishan_> !fedora
[13:19] <Gautam> DEMU : yes it is...its installed but some pptx file image were not showing ...they shows OLE instead....so i installed openoffice 3.0 ...but i failed then i removed openoffice 2.4 which was intalled previously ....now nothing is working
[13:19] <Myrtti> !msgthebot > friendishan_
[13:20] <BimBirim> скачал тему для Компиза. Не могу найти как загрузить :(
[13:20] <DEMU> oh! i can't do more. i was believing that you wished to migrate to 3.0 having an old version.
[13:20] <frojnd> err.. if vmlinuz-2.6.24-16-generic is located on the partitin /dev/sda7 does that mean that I have to add root (hd0,6)  in menu.lst ?
[13:20] <Gotu> jrib : yes it is...its installed but some pptx file image were not showing ...they shows OLE instead....so i installed openoffice 3.0 ...but i failed then i removed openoffice 2.4 which was intalled previously ....now nothing is working
[13:20] <Gotu> DEMU :  its 8.10 version
[13:21] <pederast> &j \ubuntu/de
[13:21] <BlackGrave> any one cam help here ?
[13:22] <Gotu> is there any other application which i install ...from which applicatoin can i see pptx file clearly ?
[13:22] <infekteddeath> anyone familiar with ispconfig3
[13:23] <dontknownuthin> perdoname...
[13:23] <DEMU> Gotu: i would ask you to migrate to ubuntu 9.4 if you thing not to loss enough data.
[13:23] <BlackGrave> how i can install irssi its not working
[13:23] <Hash-Heesh> Hey.. I've recently installed Ubuntu 9.04 and I have Amarok. I migrated from Windows 7 with my larger partition of personal files on D which uses NTFS and Ubuntu is using Ext 3. I want to add music from my D drive to Amarok.
[13:23] <Hash-Heesh> I don't know how to... :S
[13:24] <sleep> can i have some help i think i am semi retarded
[13:24] <Pici> sleep: I don't think we can help with that, but if you have an Ubuntu question we may be able to assist.
[13:24] <dontknownuthin> sorry to hear that sleep
[13:24] <sleep> :)
[13:24] <sleep> thanks guys
[13:25] <frojnd> err.. if vmlinuz-2.6.24-16-generic is located on the partitin /dev/sda7 does that mean that I have to add root (hd0,6)  in grub/menu.lst ?
[13:25] <sleep> you know i found a bug
[13:25] <dontknownuthin> nani?
[13:25] <frojnd> Also in /mnt/boot/ there are only abi-2.6.24-16-generic  config-2.6.24-16-generic  initrd.img-2.6.24-16-generic  initrd.img-2.6.24-16-generic.bak  memtest86+.bin  System.map-2.6.24-16-generic  vmlinuz-2.6.24-16-generic which name do I have to add as initrd /boot/NAME ? if noone has extension *.img ???
[13:26] <sleep> if you are running vmware-tools you cannot install java-sun or openjdk. i believe its because vmware has some hook that messes it up. just so you know if someone has a question tell them to uninstall the tools and retry
[13:26] <Hash-Heesh> How do you import music using Amarok from a different partition?
[13:26] <sleep> took me a bit to find the err
[13:27] <th0r> !ntfs
[13:27] <DEMU> french chatting! how can i find them?
[13:27] <th0r> !fr
[13:27] <DEMU> yes fr!
[13:27] <dontknownuthin> O_O
[13:28] <DEMU> merci de me reorienter ubottu!
[13:28] <DEMU> je l'ai eu
[13:28] <sleep> vad säger du
[13:29] <dontknownuthin> so it's safe to just partition your windows drive?
[13:29] <jon5000> hello.  I am using 8.04 on a dell inspiron 9300 and i would like to change the tap sensitivity of the mouse pad.  i dont want to disable, just make less sensitive.  i have changed "option maxtaptime" in xorg but it seems to have no effect.
[13:29] <dontknownuthin> please help me.  I dont know nuthin...
[13:30] <th0r> jon5000: there is a small utility you can install from synaptic...search for synaptic
[13:30] <sleep> dontknownuthin: why you gonna partition
[13:30] <macvr> !ask | dontknownuthin
[13:31] <th0r> jon5000: it is gsynaptics
[13:32] <dontknownuthin> um...I was gonna partition my main drive or get another drive for ubuntu if it's safer
[13:33] <macvr> dontknownuthin: u can use ubuntu from a partition , or if u want more space u can get a new drive
[13:34] <nish> I am trying to install unbuntu 8.04 on my pc, but i can't seem to go through with it, can anyone help. :(
[13:34] <dontknownuthin> would a partition be vulnerable to a windows backdoor?
[13:34] <macvr> dontknownuthin: NO
[13:35] <dontknownuthin> muchisimas gracias
[13:35] <nish> can anyone help with UNBUNTU istallation
[13:36] <jon5000> th0r, i have gsynaptics installed.  i have changed the setting for tapping time to long.  it didnt change anything
[13:36] <macvr> !ask | nish
[13:36] <agoliveira> sciri
[13:36] <nish> sorry ubotu, im a bit of a newb to irc
[13:37] <nish> NEED HELP WITH UNBUNTU INSTALLATION
[13:37] <Pici> nish: Please lose the caps.
[13:38] <frojnd> Somehow It won't boot entierly into ubuntu. I use opensuse's menu.lst for booting. Here are the settings for ubuntu: title Xubuntu [/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-16-generic] root (hd0,6) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-16-generic root/dev/disk/by-uuid/2e08a82e-277c-4be4-a8a4-f651e032f1aa ro initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-16-generic
[13:38] <Pici> nish: 'need help' is not a question. Please describe in detail the issue you are having (on one line) and then someone will answer.
[13:38] <frojnd> Is there esomething wrong...
[13:39] <frojnd> I wasn't sure if the kernel /boot/ line is ok but if I check what fiels are in ubuntu's boot: abi-2.6.24-16-generic  config-2.6.24-16-generic  initrd.img-2.6.24-16-generic  initrd.img-2.6.24-16-generic.bak  memtest86+.bin  System.map-2.6.24-16-generic  vmlinuz-2.6.24-16-generic
[13:39] <frojnd> Did I missedtype somewhere?
[13:39] <frojnd> I've checked for uuid like this: ls -l /dev/diskby-uuid/ enter
[13:39] <frojnd> and copoed the sda7 entry
[13:40] <riddick> linuxac#
[13:40] <frojnd> I need some help here, so I can boot into ubuntu
[13:40] <nish> i have burned the image of unbuntu on a cd, and tried to install it on my pc. i get the unbuntu load screen, but when i try to install it, the screen goes blank, after the progress bar reaches the end?
[13:41] <frojnd> Can someone check for me what is his/her line in boot/grub/menu.lst for boot and initrd ?
[13:41] <frojnd> I'm sorry kernel and initrd line..
[13:42] <Pici> frojnd: Your suse grub may not support uuids
[13:42] <frojnd> Pici: so kernel and initrd lines are fine?
[13:42] <nish> i have burned the image of unbuntu on a cd, and tried to install it on my pc. i get the unbuntu load screen, but when i try to install it, the screen goes blank, after the progress bar reaches the end?
[13:43] <Pici> frojnd: They should be
[13:43] <frojnd> Pici: I mean the image is different
[13:44] <frojnd> Pici: you see: kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-16-generic and initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-16-generic
[13:45] <ohir> frojnd: try give device to grub
[13:45] <frojnd> Pici: and in /mnt/boot I only have: abi-2.6.24-16-generic  config-2.6.24-16-generic  initrd.img-2.6.24-16-generic  initrd.img-2.6.24-16-generic.bak  memtest86+.bin  System.map-2.6.24-16-generic  vmlinuz-2.6.24-16-generic
[13:45] <frojnd> ohir: I've added as id
[13:45] <Pici> frojnd: I don't have a menu.list file here that I can compare with. Perhaps someone else is more familiar wit it
[13:45] <nish> i have burned the image of unbuntu on a cd, and tried to install it on my pc. i get the unbuntu load screen, but when i try to install it, the screen goes blank, after the progress bar reaches the end?
[13:45] <frojnd> ohir: if it doesn't support disk-byuuid it supports disk-byid
[13:46] <frojnd> can someone past hi's menu.lst please?
[13:46] <frojnd> so I can see if kernel and initrd lines should have the same image
[13:46] <ohir> nish: try alternate install. Likely you have some kind of unsupported at install stage graphics
[13:46] <frojnd> (the name)
[13:46] <ohir> frojnd: give'em device
[13:46] <frojnd> ohir: don't inderstand? /dev/sda7 you mena?
[13:47] <frojnd> mean
[13:47] <ohir> frojnd: LABELS were a bit evil, UUIDS are the Gate's hellbomb
[13:47] <ohir> frojnd: yes
[13:47] <frojnd> ohir: what about the kernel and initrd sections?
[13:47] <frojnd> are fine?
[13:47] <ohir> frojnd: seem good
[13:47] <baz44> hey, anybody knows where to buy pre-install linux desktop in the uk?
[13:47] <frojnd> ohir: kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-16-generic root/dev/disk/by-id/ata-TOSHIBA_MK1234GSX_27KLTKHBT-part7 ro and initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-16-generi
[13:48] <frojnd> ohir: you see vmlinuz-2.6.24-16-generic and initrd.img-2.6.24-16-generi
[13:48] <frojnd> c
[13:48] <frojnd> the name is different..
[13:48] <ohir> frojnd: numbers match, thats ok
[13:48] <frojnd> ohir: ok
[13:49] <frojnd> I'll first try to reboot with disk-byid if that won't work I'll put there /dev/sda7
[13:49] <ohir> frojnd: '-2.6.24-16-generic' this identifies. Vmlinuz is kernel itself, initrd image is for pivot boot
[13:50] <kane77> hi, can anyone suggest me some media streaming server application? (so that I can access my movies/music from other computers over some web interface)
[13:51] <ohir> frojnd: I assume you are editing menu.lst at your base /boot part?
[13:53] <xrfang> hello, anyone know how can I redefine mouse button in gnome, e.g. make ctrl+left-click same as middle-click?
[13:53] <Eoch> are there any other package managers recommended beside synaptics (gui and cli)
[13:53] <ohir> frojnd: /1
[13:53] <frojnd> ohir: I'm editing suse's menu.lst
[13:54] <ohir> frojnd: ok
[13:54] <xrfang> Eoch, apt-get, aptitude :)
[13:54] <ohir> Eoch: aptitude
[13:54] <Eoch> aptitude has a gui?
[13:54] <Eoch> I use apt-get cli all the time.
[13:54] <ohir> Eoch somewhat. Its curses based and support mouse
[13:55] <ohir> apt-get is pure cli
[13:55] <Eoch> but I want something more friendly and maybe more details on finding new packages to install.
[13:55] <frojnd> ohir: editing suse's menu to dual boot with ubuntu... but somehow I'm not allow to boot to it it stops at: [13.33302022] /build/buldd/linux-2.6.24/drivers/hid/usbhid/linux-kernek: v2.6:USB HID core driver
[13:55] <ohir> Eoch: aptitude then. Openn term and try aptitude.
[13:56] <frojnd> I'm out of ideas..
[13:57] <frojnd> something is terribly wrong... that's why I'm asking if I edit the kernel and initrd lines right, since I don't know what image to add so ubuntu can use
[13:57] <frojnd> maybe those are the worng ones..
[13:57] <Eoch> ohir: Thanks, that has a lot more details, it's not pretty though.
[13:57] <ohir> frojnd: are you loading ubuntu kernel?
[13:57] <frojnd> ohir: now I'm in suse
[13:57] <frojnd> ohir: and I have mounted ubuntu to /mnt
[13:57] <ohir> Eoch: is enough pretty :)
[13:57] <Eoch> heh, yes, thank you.
[13:58] <Gamarok__> !welcome
[13:58] <frojnd> So.. can somone paste /boot/grub/menu.lst So I can see what kernes do you use?
[13:58] <frojnd> kernels
[13:59] <frojnd> No?
[13:59] <ohir> frojnd: its possible to use ubuntu with any kernel, but you need dig deep in howtos. I'll sugest you install ubuntu on separate disk space then use chain loader from within suse grub
[13:59] <Boohbah> frojnd: just look in /boot for your kernel
[13:59] <sebas> Anybody around who can tell me where flash does send its sound?
[13:59] <mohan_> hi..
[13:59] <sebas> I've sound working for skype and the KDE apps but flash is silent
[13:59] <sebas> Removed all pulse from my system to make sound work at all
[13:59] <Mooch> genii: question for you after I finish putting all the info thats where I left off yesterday what do i need to do next. Also my modem was selected as ttyS1 is that right
[13:59] <sebas> Is it possible to use flash with sound without pulse?
[13:59] <frojnd> ohir: I DID INSTALL IT on a seperated disk, partition on sda7
[13:59] <mohan_> what is the file name of oss if i am using a usb base audio?
[14:00] <mohan_> i mean audio device?
[14:00] <ohir> frojnd: from what you said you'are trying to boot ubuntu with suse kernel
[14:00] <frojnd> ohir: NO!
[14:00] <mohan_> like /dev/dsp
[14:00] <soerg> Anyone willing to help with a bizarre (for me) situation when I can use web and cannot use ping/mail/irc? :)
[14:00] <ohir> frojnd: if you did whole install then man grub and add chain loader. suse-grub -> ubuntu-grub
[14:01] <frojnd> I said, that in /mnt/boot <-which is ubuntu mounted to linux are files like: abi-2.6.24-16-generic  config-2.6.24-16-generic  initrd.img-2.6.24-16-generic  initrd.img-2.6.24-16-generic.bak  memtest86+.bin  System.map-2.6.24-16-generic  vmlinuz-2.6.24-16-generic
[14:01] <HoldenC> sebas what version of flash?
[14:01] <mohan_> anybody?
[14:01] <jefinc> I cannot for the life of me get my 5.1 audio to work, I've played around the the alsamixer and made sure that there is not anything muted... any suggestions?
[14:02] <mohan_> using ubuntu 9.03
[14:02] <frojnd> ohir: you see that's wha I've been barking here for a while. Which one of those files (that ar in /mnt/boot) <- ubuntu mounted on suse) to include in initrd and kernel lines in suses grub
[14:02] <something> is there a way to create a virtualbox vm from a physical ubuntu install?
[14:02] <Mooch> genii: hey
[14:03] <ohir> frojnd: have you set up right root device?
[14:03] <soerg> Fresh install, updated, only web is working, irc/mail/ping is not - any ideas?
[14:03] <frojnd> ohir: the disk-byid yes
[14:03] <ohir> frojnd: root            (hd0,1) or like
[14:04] <frojnd> ohir: sorry
[14:04] <sebas> HoldenC: whatever's shipped with jaunty
[14:04] <frojnd> ohir: root (hd0,6) if I've installed ubuntu ond /dev/sda7
[14:04] <neil_d> something: try installing a virtual HDD, boot of a virtual CDROM, copy contents of real HDD to virtual HDD and install grub and you should be away.
[14:04] <tremby> planning a new computer and don't know what graphics card to get, ATI or Nvidia. i'm going to want to rotate one of my screens 90 degrees. any advice on which route to take for best support in Ubuntu?
[14:04] <sleep> ohir: maybe its your firewall
[14:04] <ohir> frojnd: yep, likely
[14:04] <frojnd> ohir: so it's right
[14:04] <frojnd> 0 means sda
[14:04] <zhoujingrui> gave me some advice by learning linux
[14:04] <frojnd> 6 means 7th partition
[14:05] <frojnd> ohir: what I'm concerned about is kernel and initrd line
[14:05] <ohir> frojnd: error message you gave here tells that you have wrong map
[14:05] <mohan_> what would be the USB audio device path in /dev ?
[14:06] <mohan_> pls anybody?
[14:06] <frojnd> ohir: wrong map?
[14:06] <ohir> frojnd: iow have modules from other kernel
[14:06] <mohan_> is it /dev/dsp?
[14:06] <mohan_> or any other thing?
[14:06] <soerg> Fresh install, updated, only web is working, irc/mail/ping is not - any ideas what to do?
[14:06] <frojnd> ohir: I'm preety sure I did install ubuntu on /dev/sda7
[14:07] <Mooch> I have some questions about setting up my dial up modem
[14:07] <frojnd> ohir: also in /boot/ of ubuntu there are following images: abi-2.6.24-16-generic  config-2.6.24-16-generic  initrd.img-2.6.24-16-generic  initrd.img-2.6.24-16-generic.bak  memtest86+.bin  System.map-2.6.24-16-generic  vmlinuz-2.6.24-16-generic
[14:07] <ohir> frojnd: right menu.lst positions you now should have in /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst
[14:07] <frojnd> ohir: so I must copy from suse to ubuntu ?
[14:07] <ohir> frojnd: this should be ubuntu made menu.lst. copy/paste set right root hd
[14:08] <mvalviar> To Gnome-Do users: how to I reset all of gnome-do's relevances?
[14:08] <ohir> no, in your mbr is suse's grub
[14:08] <frojnd> ohir: yes
[14:08] <frojnd> ohir: now I only have in suse: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[14:08] <jefinc> anyone here a guru with alsa audio+5.1?
[14:08] <something> neil_d, so I could create a virtual harddrive using virtualbox, and copy the real disk into it.  is that what you are saying?
[14:09] <something> neil_d, also have you done this before?
[14:09] <frojnd> ohir: don't undertand. You are applying that in /mnt/boot is menu.lst ?
[14:09] <ohir> frojnd: do you have separate boot part?
[14:10] <frojnd> ohir: yes
[14:10] <Mooch> is ttyS1 the correct configuration for a dial up modem
[14:10] <HoldenC> sebas https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash
[14:10] <frojnd> ohir: one is on sda1 <- suses.. and one on sda7 ubuntu's
[14:10] <neil_d> something: yes copy the HDD, no not with virtualbox, but I did clone a real computer like this.
[14:10] <ohir> frojnd: do you have separate boot partition? I mean _separate_ for anyos
[14:11] <something> neil_d, what tool should I use to create the virtual HD?  or what did you use?
[14:11] <frojnd> ohir: oh no
[14:11] <frojnd> ohir: only / and /home
[14:11] <frojnd> ohir: that's on suse, but on ubuntu only /
[14:11] <jorgerosa> hello all
[14:12] <zhoujingrui> why no sound ubuntu?
[14:12] <soerg> People, please, I'm going mad... What can I check when only web is working and nothing (mail/irc/ping) else does?
[14:12] <sebas> HoldenC: thanks, looking at it
[14:12] <zek> what is the channel for the off topic discussion
[14:12] <Mooch> ubuntu-offtopic
[14:12] <sebas> HoldenC: that doesn't even have info for jaunty ... it worked fine on older distros
[14:13] <sebas> I guess that's the wrath of pulse creeping up on me
[14:13] <ohir> frojnd: baad.
[14:13] <HoldenC> sebas look at the troubleshooting section
[14:13] <neil_d> something: I didn't use virtual box, I did it with real hardware.  create the virtual HDD the standard way, of course make sure it is big enough for all the data.
[14:14] <Mooch> ttyS1 was selected on my modem is that correct?
[14:14] <HoldenC> sebas flash 10 uses pulseaudio
[14:14] <sebas> No way to get rid of that? :/
[14:14] <zek> I am using wubi and because its a work computer i was only able to give it 5gb.  now im running into problems with space.  are there easy ways to clean up a computer?
[14:14] <ohir> frojnd: w8, i need to think
[14:14] <sebas> pulseaudio breaks all kinds of other stuff
[14:15] <sebas> Is that an upstream thing or is it possible to get non-pulse flashplugin anywhere?
[14:15] <mikechelen> pulseaudio is working alright on latest install, had troubles in the past
[14:15] <mikechelen> certain apps require tweaking
[14:15] <sebas> mikechelen: with phonon on Intel as well?
[14:15] <HoldenC> sebas maybe the old 9 version
[14:15] <sebas> urgh
[14:16] <mikechelen> sebas, ah maybe it depends on hardware then
[14:16] <sebas> yeah, it's known broken for ages
[14:16] <sebas> unfortunately, 80%+ of all notebooks have those intel chips
[14:17] <sebas> which is why requiring pulse is a very bad idea
[14:17] <Albino1> Hello
[14:17] <mikechelen> sebas, try flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound for OSS or Esound
[14:17] <genii> Mooch: I'm at work right now, so I'm back and forth to the computer. As for device name. If the modem is on a traditional serial port, ttyS0 corresponds to 03f8,irq 4 ("COM1" in Windows/Dos) , ttyS1 would be 02f8,irq 3 ("COM2"), ttyS2 would be 03e8,irq 4 ("COM3"), and ttyS3 would be 02e8,irq 3 ("COM4"). If your modem is connected some other way it's device name will vary.
[14:18] <mikechelen> sebas, was it working in 8.10?
[14:18] <HoldenC> sebas or read this http://pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup
[14:18] <ohir> frojnd: you need to copy kernel, initrd and map from /mnt/ubuntu/boot to /boot
[14:18] <jefinc> soerg: what you can check is the ubuntuforums :) sorry can't help at the moment
[14:18] <Albino1> I have a problem with my graphics card not recognizing i have a 22" LCD monitor. If any1 could help that would be great.
[14:18] <soerg> jefinc: I think I've read  everything...
[14:18] <sebas> HoldenC: I want to get *rid* of pulse, not have what Lennart thinks is perfect
[14:20] <ohir> frojnd: hmm... no, w8 to your suse /, then treat suse's / as ubuntu /boot. Its only possible way to go out of this mess
[14:20] <Mooch> genii: it didn't detect the modem so it wanted me to select it manually how do I do that
[14:20] <frojnd> ohir: slowly :)
[14:20] <JPZ> Hello everyone. I accidently chmod'ed /var/log to 777 a few weeks back. I was told that I should set it to 640, but I think something is still not right as I've noticed that ubuntu's log viewier is no longer able to show me the logs unless I load it as root. syslogkd also seems to stop loggin to certain files sometimes and resumes loggin when I restart the service.
[14:20] <ohir> frojnd: apart from reinstall both flavors
[14:20] <frojnd> ohir: how can i do this?
[14:20] <HoldenC> sebas i see but doesn't seem a clever choice to
[14:20] <frojnd> ohir: suse works fine.. I'm in it right know
[14:20] <sebas> HoldenC: pulse doesn't work, clever or not
[14:20] <frojnd> ohir: but can you explain to me step by step how can I do this?
[14:21] <ohir> frojnd: I see. But linux has its way of dooing boot. And you have _no_separate /boot
[14:22] <neil_d> JPZ: my /var/log directory is 755
[14:22] <ohir> frojnd: ok. First do backup your important data as always. Second I assume you are not absolute greenhorn?
[14:22] <JPZ> neil_d, and is that because you changed it, or came default with ubuntu ?
[14:23] <frojnd> ohir: u mean lizzard?
[14:23] <neil_d> JPZ: default
[14:23] <JPZ> neal_d, ok great, thanks
[14:23] <genii> Mooch: Before trying to get your modem to be dialling anywhere, you should know what devicename it's getting. Some of that depends on how it connects to the computer (serial port,usb, etc). Also if it's not a hardware based modem (eg:it's a Winmodem) then you may need to twiddle with drivers etc.
[14:23] <ohir> frojnd: heh, s/greenhorn/newbie/
[14:23] <sebas> HoldenC: I'll give up for now, I'm getting frustrated and that's not helpful when trying to sort this out. I'll be at UDS next week and complain in person :)
[14:23] <fwerneburg> hi there,  can anyone help me with a xorg issue on a thinkpad?
[14:23] <sebas> HoldenC: thanks for the friendly help anyway
[14:23] <frojnd> ohir: if I'm following you it would be better if I'd made /boot partition in ubuntu?
[14:23] <HoldenC> You're welcome
[14:24] <Albino1> Is there anyway to get Ubuntu to recognize a 22" monitor?
[14:24] <ohir> frojnd: it would be better if you did separate /boot for your suse and any other flavor
[14:24] <frojnd> ohir: but since I don't have the one on suse...
[14:25] <Severity1> how do i configure the gateway of my interface3 card
[14:25] <frojnd> one on suse
[14:26] <ohir> frojnd: as you did not, you need to tinker with your ubuntu layout. You need to configure it now that it will treat your suse's / as /boot
[14:26] <Severity1> how do i configure the gateway of my interface card via console
[14:26] <ohir> frojnd: first of all, read man boot
[14:27] <frojnd> ohir: k
[14:27] <sebas> Severity1: ifconfig has a "gw" argument
[14:27] <ohir> frojnd: there is short explanation how it all works
[14:27] <sebas> or you put it into /etc/network/interfaces Severity1
[14:27] <genii> Mooch: Work requires me right now. If you can do a bit of digging and find what your modem is it might help a lot
[14:28] <shubbar> how can i print to pdf? I lost cups-pdf when i upgraded.
[14:28] <Albino1> no one but me has a problem with Ubuntu not recognizing a Hannspree LCD 22"?
[14:28] <Mooch> genii: understood if you get time all be here
[14:28] <licky654> im having trouble mounting the partition the xp is installed on
[14:28] <licky654> it says that the logfile indicates an unclean options
[14:29] <licky654> shutdown i mean
[14:29] <licky654> ive tried force mounting it but i get the same error
[14:30] <licky654> ftsab looks like this uuid /media/xp ntfs-3g defaults 0 0
[14:30] <licky654> 0 0
[14:30] <licky654> ive tried changing defaults to force but it makes no difference
[14:30] <helpp> can you help me i have a failed when i restart samba in ubuntu server 9.04
[14:30] <ohir> frojnd: then, under suse, you need; sudo mkdir /grub && cd /boot/grub ; for f in * ; do ln $f /grub/$f ; done
[14:31] <Raeth> Hi
[14:31] <chazco> Hi... where can I specify x11 mouse options? xorg.conf seems to be ignored...
[14:32] <Raeth> What am I supposed to do when Ubuntu crashes?
[14:32] <Raeth> In Windows can ctrl-alt-delete and kill the locked app
[14:32] <mechdave> Raeth, reboot it
[14:32] <Raeth> And lose everything?
[14:32] <DJones> licky654: Have you tried booting into windows and running chkdisk, that should clear any error flags on the drive
[14:32] <ohir> frojnd: then you need to _copy_ from /mnt/boot vmlinuz-2.6.24-16-generic System.map-2.6.24-16-generic initrd.img-2.6.24-16-generic to your current /
[14:32] <Raeth> I used to be able to ctrl-alt to a TTY and kill the app from there, but it won't let me do that
[14:32] <mechdave> Raeth, Ctrl + Alt + F1 might work
[14:32] <Raeth> mechdave: Computer says no
[14:33] <Raeth> It puts me back to F7
[14:33] <Raeth> Is this to stop newbies from screwing themselves over?
[14:33] <licky654> djones: cheers, will try now
[14:33] <Raeth> When Firefox locks the entire system, rebooting isn't a good solution
[14:34] <Raeth> Ironically I can't use Linux because it's too simple
[14:34] <licky654> what else can you do then when the whole system crashes
[14:34] <Raeth> Instead of being too powerful
[14:34] <Decepticon> whats the correct syntax for this command: tar --remove-files cpzf "$(date +'%Y%m%d_%I.%M.%S%p').tgz" etc.tgz
[14:34] <Raeth> Bring up a process list and kill the crashing app
[14:34] <ohir> frojnd: next step: edit /mnt/etc/fstab (your ubuntu fstab) and add your suse / device as /boot
[14:34] <hemanth>  how to check if a particular package is installed or not , and install it if it's not from a script , say for example : mogrify tool requires imagemagick ; rather putting it simple , how to check and install list of know dependencies and install them all
[14:35] <jrib> hemanth: apt installs deps automatically...
[14:35] <ohir> frojnd: frojnd you can copy / line from /etc/fstab to /mnt/etc/fstab then change / to /boot
[14:38] <geirha> Decepticon: You are putting a tarball into a tarball? what's the point of that? Anyway, since you have a --option, you need to add a - infront of the short options -cpzf
[14:38] <Decepticon> so its easier to wget
[14:38] <Decepticon> ah ok
[14:38] <Mooch> is there a way to check in the terminal where your modem is located?
[14:39] <Decepticon> geirha: sudo tar --remove-files -cpzf "tazeat_$(date +'%Y%m%d_%I.%M.%S%p').tgz" etc.tgz www.tgz home.tgz
[14:39] <geirha> Decepticon: Ah, ok, but no point in compressing twice, it won't get any smaller, so why not make it just a tar, without the -z option?
[14:40] <Decepticon> not so concerned a bout size, it was just really difficult to make the tarball with all the exclude options, so i divided the task up and made multiple tarballs
[14:40] <Decepticon> now i want 1 tarball for easy wget
[14:41] <ltcabral> hm... how can i make an user in ubuntu with authentication in the network, not just localy
[14:41] <ohir> frojnd: then you do: for f in vmlinuz-2.6.24-16-generic System.map-2.6.24-16-generic initrd.img-2.6.24-16-generic ; do ln /$f /boot/$f ; done
[14:42] <Mooch> in the terminal is there a way to locate your modem
[14:43] <ohir> frojnd: next you need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst (use vim or other editor which do not break hardlinks) and prepare your Ubuntu position
[14:45] <ohir> frojnd: root device stanza will be untouched, kernel and initrd stanzas you can copy from /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst
[14:45] <ripper17> hi all - is it possible to use kdelirc with kde 4.1 or 4.2?
[14:45] <Who> does anyone know what _actual command_ GNOME executes when the volume keys are pressed? I want to make it work in XFCE with notifications
[14:47] <ohir> frojnd: after that check again if /grub/menu.lst and /boot/grub/menu.lst is really one file (ls -li /grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.lst, inode must match)
[14:48] <ohir> frojnd: if your editor screwed it, do hardlink em again
[14:50] <System404> hey i have a question i use my laptop to connect to xbox live via ethernet in windows is there any way to do this with ubuntu
[14:51] <genii> Mooch: Perhaps we can try to determine what kind of modem you have. Is it external? If external, what kind of plug attaches it to computer (serial cable, usb,other..). If it's internal... does the system show it on the command: lspci ?
[14:51] <System404> hey i have a question i use my laptop to connect to xbox live via ethernet in windows is there any way to do this with ubuntu
[14:52] <dupondje-> System404:  ofc, u can route with iptables :)
[14:52] <System404> i also need a proper equaliser for ubuntu where i can control my bass trble etc etc
[14:52] <willvarfar> what package should I install so that "man 2 read" etc work?
[14:53] <System404> i also need a proper equaliser for ubuntu where i can control my bass trble etc etc
[14:53] <Tyler> Raex93: try installing ubuntu-restricted-extras
[14:54] <System404> anyone know of a a proper equaliser for ubuntu where i can control my bass trble etc etc
[14:54] <Tyler> that'll have flash and everything in it, and youtube should then work fine
[14:54] <Raex93> Okay. Ill try that out. Thanks.
[14:54] <Tyler> System404: I think there are some that are being worked on, but I'm not sure that there is a proper one yet
[14:54] <System404> well nefing thatll let me put up the bass on my laptop really
[14:55] <System404> surely there must be something out there
[14:55] <Tyler> Raex93: that installs quite a number of useful softwares that are non-open-source, so if you want *just* flashplayer, install adobe-flashplugin
[14:55] <mEie> Is there a total recovery mode for ubuntu when things get out of hands?
[14:55] <ninja> amigos
[14:55] <pietje> hello all, I have a problem using ubuntu 9.04, it hangs verry often. Sometimes its just 1 program that hangs, and sometimes every thing hangs. The screen greyes out, and I have to wait about 10 seconds.
[14:55] <System404> a proper equaliser for ubuntu where i can control my bass trble etc etc
[14:55] <ninja> to com um problema no ardour
[14:56] <ninja> alguém aí usa ele?
[14:56] <Pici> !br | ninja
[14:56] <pietje> does somebody know how to solve that problam
[14:56] <System404> ninja this is english channel
[14:56] <rizet> pietje: lenny doesn't do it
[14:56] <Raex93> I tried just the flash plugin, but that didnt work
[14:56] <System404> need a proper equaliser for ubuntu where i can control my bass trble etc etc
[14:56] <pietje> rizet: what do you mean?
[14:56] <Tyler> Raex93: is it not working at all? did you restart your browser?
[14:56] <rizet> pietje: I'm saying: switch over to debian lenny
[14:57] <Tyler> System404: yeah, it would be nice, but I don't think there's anything out there yet.
[14:57] <coz_> System404,  I would like that also but I have searched for months  for a system wide  equalizer  with no luck
[14:57] <System404> there must be linux has bn around for years surely sum1 has made sumfin for this
[14:57] <Tyler> System404: various media players like banshee have equalizers that work well
[14:57] <pietje> rizet: isn't there another way? do you know what is causing that problem?
[14:58] <ninja> 	
[14:58] <ninja> Hello friends someone works with ardor
[14:58] <rizet> pietje: i've got no idea; ubuntu works just fine on my computer
[14:58] <coz_> System404, 18 years and no real equalizier...  not surprising ..linux was not thought of as a mutimedia OS
[14:58] <aksci> System404: you can just google and download the default winamp equalizer file and try it with almost evryplayer u know on ubuntu
[14:58] <rizet> pietje: you should be more specific though
[15:00] <ninja> ARDOUR?
[15:00] <coz_> ninja,  I dont think you want an equalizer for ardour  that is DAW  if I am not mistaken
[15:00] <ohir> frojnd: ah, in /mnt/etc/fstab set your new /boot as read only. It assure that any kernel update from ubuntu will fail. You then need to do such update by hand.
[15:00] <pietje> rizet: I don't know what more to say.. I'll give an example: I'm using firefox, and all of the sudden firefox hangs, and the complete firefox screen turns grey, but I can still use other programms. And after about 10 seconds, it comes back to live. But I'm certain it is not a firefox problem, because I have the exact same problem with every program
[15:01] <coz_> ninja,  it probably has its own plugins for this anyway
[15:01] <ninja> I'm having trouble export wav
[15:01] <ohir> frojnd: if you will be done with man boot grep your log for instructions. Now I am afk.
[15:01] <Mooch> genii: found it
[15:01] <genii> Mooch: If it's internal and the: lspci does not show some modem, 99% chance it's some kind of "winmodem". So in that case it gets problemmatic to make Linux understand it
[15:01] <coz_> ninja,  oh
[15:01] <ninja> coz, I'm having trouble export wav
[15:01] <System404> i need an equaliser so as to increase the base level
[15:01] <serpico> hi
[15:01] <System404> is winamp available for linux
[15:02] <System404> it has inbuilt equaliser dont it
[15:02] <coz_> ninja,   what does ardour use as default save format?
[15:02] <coz_> ninja,  you might want to go to the #ardour   channel for that question :)
[15:02] <rizet> pietje: what about other apps; is is just firefox? and if so, when it happens?
[15:02] <Mooch> genii: its located at dev/ttyS_PCTEL
[15:03] <System404> is winamp available for linux
[15:03] <Mooch> genii: pctel0
[15:03] <Raex93> I tried using that ubuntu-restricted-extras, and it still isnt working. i cant change my place in the video and it is very choppy with no audio
[15:03] <coz_> System404,   no  but similar appls are
[15:03] <System404> coz_: do those similar apps have inbuilt equalisers
[15:03] <ninja> tanks
[15:03] <pietje> rizet: no it isn't just firefox, it happens with about every app.. And I'm not doing anything special when it happens.
[15:03] <coz_> System404, ah   let me check
[15:03] <genii> Mooch: OK good. So use that in the pppconfig setup when it asks for the serial port name
[15:03] <pietje> rizet: thats why I'm so puzzeld
[15:04] <pietje> puzzeled
[15:04] <coz_> System404,  xmmx does but it is no longer in the repos
[15:04] <Pici> !players | System404
[15:04] <rizet> pietje: have you seen the logs?
[15:04] <System404> audacious does that have inbuilt equaliser
[15:04] <System404> so i can up the base in my music
[15:04] <coz_> System404,   http://librenix.com/?inode=1377
[15:04] <Mooch> genii: one problem though my modem is a PCI
[15:05] <pietje> rizet: nope, I must say I'm a bit of a beginner with linux, what log should I check?
[15:05] <Raex93> Can anyone help me with my youtube problem?
[15:05] <Mooch> genii: and the other problem is there is no ttyS of the selections
[15:05] <geirha> System404: Beep Media Player is based on xmms I think, so if you liked xmms, try beep
[15:05] <acul> beep
[15:05] <Holek_> how can I mount swap partition?
[15:05] <System404> ive never tried xmms or beep gna try out audacious atm
[15:05] <coz_> System404,  also audacious
[15:06] <System404> yeah ill give audacious a try just now
[15:06] <coz_> System404,  audacious is fairly close to winamp and xmms
[15:06] <erUSUL> Holek_: sawpon /dev/sdxx
[15:06] <erUSUL> Holek_: with sudo of cource
[15:06] <Holek_> thanks
[15:06] <Holek_> mhm
[15:06] <System404> will report bak incase anyone else is interested on weither or not this has equaliser
[15:06] <genii> Mooch: If you do: ls -l /dev/modem          does it show that is actually pointing to your pctel modem name?
[15:06] <Guest46537> Hi everibody
[15:06] <rizet> pietje: seems like you must do some reading
[15:06] <erUSUL> Holek_: if you want it to be abable on every boot add aline for it to /etc/fstab
[15:07] <coz_> System404,  dig in the audacious preferences  there a quite a few as I recall
[15:07] <Mooch> genii: let me check
[15:07] <System404> can confirm audacious has equaliser
[15:07] <rogue780_> when I do "sudo useradd username" shouldn't it automatically creat the director /home/username ?
[15:08] <pietje> rizet: I think I should check the syslog right?
[15:08] <rizet> pietje: exactly
[15:09] <Mooch> genii: 0 /dev/modem
[15:09] <erUSUL> rogue780_: from the manpage of useradd "  useradd is a low level utility for adding users. On Debian, administrators should usually use adduser(8) instead. "
[15:09] <rogue780_> erU
[15:09] <rogue780_> erUSUL, thanks
[15:10] <pietje> rizet: I'm tailing the syslog now, I'll and when some app hangs again, I'll be back
[15:10] <erUSUL> rogue780_: no problem... useradd requires you to do mostly everything manually
[15:10] <rogue780_> erUSUL, so how do I remove the user I just added using useradd ?
[15:10] <genii> Mooch: ls -l /dev/modem                           (the "-l" means "long" list, which should show if that name is actually a symbolic link which points someplace like /dev/tty_PCTEL  or so on)
[15:10] <aksci> System404: by default, there are none in audacious! but you can add them anytime!
[15:11] <erUSUL> rogue780_: userdel ¿
[15:11] <System404> there is by default an equaliser im using it now
[15:11] <Holek_> erUSUL: thanks :)
[15:11] <ltcabral> how can i use a NIS user in my ubuntu?
[15:11] <coz_> System404,  cool
[15:11] <Mooch> genii: it just says 0 /dev/modem is highlighted
[15:12] <System404> u simply right click go to view and check equaliser and bam there it is
[15:12] <red____> is gnome 2.26 available for ubuntu 9.04?
[15:13] <System404> i would like to bring it out of miniplayer though if possible i like my full screen players not this mini stuff howd i do that with audacios
[15:13] <aksci> System404: :D nice it is there! so far i couldn't find any!
[15:13] <coz_> System404,  I am not sure audacious...beep..or xmms are designed for fullscreen
[15:13] <coz_> System404,  the gui images would be pixelated at that resolution
[15:14] <coz_> System404,  did you try rhythmbox?
[15:14] <System404> i have rythmbox dont think it has equaliser though does it
[15:14] <npe> Can anyone point me to the proper way to roll a custom aoe initrd during an ubuntu-alternate install? I've already gotten my coraid mounted and written the files and now I want to get my pxe environment setup(I've already gotten everything but the initrd done).
[15:14] <coz_> System404,  i am not sure if it does
[15:14] <ehazlett> is there a way to format partitions in an image file?
[15:15] <System404> it dont thats wat i normally use
[15:15] <System404> but i want one that looks like rythmbox but has equaliser anyone know of any
[15:15] <aksci> System404: try quodlibet, its got an awesome library system and is quite lightweight!
[15:15] <heogen> hi
[15:15] <DKcross> hello. i need help.. i want create a repository cd
[15:15] <heogen> I get it problem with the connection with emule
[15:15] <aksci> System404: donno if it has an equaliser!
[15:16] <heogen> some one can help me?
[15:16] <DKcross> but without aptoncd
[15:16] <coz_> System404,  take alook at this thread    no guarantees though I have not tested this  but you could check in #alsa if it is still viable    http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-desktop-74/d-i-know-how-to-equalizetweak-alsa-system-wide-but-few-probs-630068/
[15:16] <heogen> when a trying to connect the connection is lost
[15:16] <System404> coz im just lookin for sumfin simple no tweak crap
[15:16] <aksci> DKcross: so your machine wont install the packages on putting in d cd1
[15:16] <coz_> System404,   also here   http://www.deviantdark.altervista.org/?p=438
[15:16] <System404> just sumfing like winamp or such
[15:16] <Mooch> genii: do I just type ttyS0 or what?
[15:17] <mEie> Ok guys here comes my error screen, i cannot start ubuntu  http://pici.se/p/FzEFENwad
[15:17] <DKcross> aksci,  ...?
[15:17] <DKcross> aksci,  i want create a repository cd with terminal
[15:17] <heogen> and the emule is trying to connect to the server but, it's can't do it
[15:18] <aksci> DKcross: /var/cache/apt/archives this directory has all the packages you've ever downloaded! but be careful to copy em all, cuz you'll miss out the dependencies of some softwares if you're copyin them manually!
[15:19] <Nullifi3d> im trying to write a simple shell script just to get a substring replacement to work; im getting a bad substitution error. here's the syntax: http://pastebin.com/m47ef08ab
[15:19] <DKcross> aksci,  yes i know, and i have all packages that i need, but... for create iso for repository cd?
[15:19] <heogen> Any one can help me with emule connection?
[15:19] <DKcross> do you have any tutorial?
[15:19] <aksci> System404: you can try amarok, its quite similar to winamp! but its heavy!
[15:20] <Chase_> How can I manually tell ubuntu that I have built and installed a package myself
[15:20] <Chase_> so it doesn't try to install the package as a dependency for other packages?
[15:20] <splizzrinkle> Teamviewer won't allow incoming  connection under Wine, outgoing only..wonder why?
[15:20] <aksci> DKcross: just copy them manually, but why not an apton?
[15:20] <System404> aksci just as you sent that message i was reading a forum that also recommended amarok hahaha thanks
[15:21] <DKcross> aksci,  because is broken
[15:21] <System404> it says kde can i still install it
[15:21] <coz_> System404,   I just tried that rhythmbox equalizer plugin and it does work
[15:21] <kezee> Chase_, do you whant to manage a linux desktop with Teamviewer?
[15:21] <splizzrinkle> i do
[15:21] <System404> coz_ how do i install the plugin
[15:21] <splizzrinkle> would love to
[15:22] <System404> i didnt get it
[15:22] <aksci> DKcross: so just copy paste the packages into the cd! that is it!
[15:22] <DKcross> aksci,  the problem is that...
[15:22] <Chase_> kezee: what?
[15:22] <DKcross> look this picture
[15:22] <DKcross> http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/2623/pantallazo1y.png  aksci
[15:22] <coz_> System404,  go here and then  google translate the page from italian to english
[15:22] <xrfang> hello, anybody know how to use xmodmap?
[15:22] <kezee> sry splizzrinkle :>
[15:22] <splizzrinkle> i have been trying to manage a linux desktop with TV for a week
[15:23] <splizzrinkle> no dice
[15:23] <Venom010> hey folks, any1 know any links for utube fullscreen FIX?
[15:23] <kezee> splizzrinkle, teamviewer will not work for this
[15:23] <splizzrinkle> darn, i hate vnc
[15:24] <splizzrinkle> and ssh no good either
[15:24] <Mooch> genii: now how do I dial out
[15:24] <aksci> DKcross: you dont need to list the path if you're using the default archive directory! just run aptoncd!
[15:25] <DKcross> mmm
[15:25] <junxie> bye
[15:25] <DKcross> aksci,  undestand me please... aptoncd is broken..
[15:25] <heogen> please some one can help me with the emule connection?
[15:25] <DKcross> this is the similar problem in terminal..
[15:25] <wuhen> #ownlinux
[15:26] <DKcross> but with sudo aptoncd,, when is reading the packages .... broken
[15:27] <willvarfar> what package should I install so that "man 2 read" etc work?
[15:27] <DKcross> aksci,  ready! i will create the cd in terminal
[15:27] <Mooch> genii: whenever you get a chance type me out the command to dial out
[15:28] <DKcross> http://nosoyeljano.wordpress.com/2007/10/20/crear-cd-repositorios-en-debian/ aksci
[15:28] <FLjohn> having problems with Video on edubuntu.  Hulu is blacked out and certain news video streams are as well
[15:28] <FLjohn> Anyone experience this and have a fix.  I have done what was said to do in forums with no avain
[15:28] <FLjohn> avail
[15:28] <willvarfar> adding EPOLLRDHUP was curious: now its arbitrary whether I close a stream by getting EPOLLRDHUP or by getting 0
[15:28] <aksci> so will copying the packages into the cd do for you!>? you'll then need to copy the packages from cd to the archive directory to install any of those software
[15:28] <genii> Mooch: Usually just: pon             to dial out and connect, then: poff       to disconnect
[15:29] <Dillizar> what i need to do so i cant watch HD on youtube
[15:29] <dupondje-> is there a way to directly mount .bin files ?
[15:30] <savid> Hi, I'm trying to mount a Macbook hard drive in linux so that I can write to it.   It's currently mounted, and the "mount" command shows this:  /dev/sda2 on /media/Macintosh HD type hfsplus (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal).    However, when I try to write to the drive, I get "Read-only filesystem".  Ideas?
[15:30] <Smav> Dillizar, you click the hd button
[15:30] <Smav> DUH
[15:31] <splizzrinkle> i have to say, Ubuntu has really evolved wonders! This wubbi blows my mind...
[15:31] <Boohbah> savid: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=543159
[15:31] <felix_> savid, thats a mac filesystem, you have to format the partition in a linux writable one
[15:31] <felix_> imo
[15:31] <Dillizar> Smav, doesnt work
[15:32] <Smav> then the video is not hd
[15:32] <splizzrinkle> the person who coded wubbi should get the nobel peace prize
[15:32] <Smav> you have to be on an hd video
[15:32] <Mooch> genii so type pon?
[15:32] <d43> alguem portugues
[15:32] <Smav> its not like a crime show where tehy can just make things higher resolution
[15:32] <Smav> enhance...... enhance
[15:32] <dreamy> oi
[15:32] <d43> oi
[15:32] <virus_> splizzrinkle, hahahahaha that's right
[15:32] <genii> Mooch: Yes. It will use whatever info you supplied to pppconfig to make the dialup connection.
[15:32] <Nullifi3d> http://pastebin.com/m47ef08ab SUBSTITUTION ERRO: Why :(
[15:33] <dreamy> d43: de onde es?
[15:33] <d43> br
[15:33] <dreamy> ok.. - Pt
[15:33] <genii> Mooch: You can see after if you have a ppp connection by: ifconfig         and it should show a ppp0 interface
[15:33] <savid> felix_, yeah, it's my Mac OSX partition.   I wanted to be able to write to it from linux
[15:33] <d43> legal
[15:33] <felix_> d43, /join #ubuntu-pt
[15:33] <savid> Boohbah,  thanks I'll check that out
[15:33] <heogen> hi
[15:33] <d43> estśs a usar o ubuntu ai
[15:34] <felix_> savid, then use gparted to turn that drive into ext3 or ext4
[15:34] <felix_> unless you like other
[15:34] <dreamy> sim
[15:34] <genii> Mooch: (it might take 15-45 seconds for ppp0 to be active and show since pon has to do the speed negotiation, login, etc etc)
[15:34] <d43> estou apanhando aki
[15:34] <heogen> some one can help me with emule connection?
[15:34] <splizzrinkle> hegen, easier to torrent it
[15:35] <splizzrinkle> heogen, sorry
[15:35] <Zephryos> Hey guys, I'm needing some help with getting the wireless to work on this laptop, I'm using the wire connection right now. On Ubuntu 9.04, its a Belkin and the system -seems- to have loaded the driver correctly from what little I can tell but Its not able to scan for the network or anything. Any suggestions?
[15:35] <dreamy> d43: Tens o o #ubuntu-pt
[15:35] <npe> can anybody point me to someone who is good at setting up initrd's?
[15:35] <savid> felix_,  unfortunately it's a work laptop and I need to keep that partition as OSX.     I'm really just wanting to back up my stuff so I can re-install ubuntu from CD
[15:35] <heogen> splizzrinkle you don't know
[15:35] <splizzrinkle> Zephryos, use ndis
[15:35] <dreamy> d43: eu sou novo no ubuntu.. linux
[15:35] <d43> naum
[15:35] <d43> eu tb
[15:36] <heogen> splizzrinkle i would like to use emule
[15:36] <felix_> savid, then i'm sorry i cannot help you. i never used a mac :)
[15:36] <MoLoot> Zephryos, do you have a little icon on bottom of screen for networking? right click and see that enable wireless is checked
[15:36] <heogen> but i think that is configuration problem
[15:36] <Zephryos> splizzrinkle: NDIS wrapper? Jesus.. last I heard that mentioned was back in 5.0....
[15:36] <Zephryos> MoLoot: Yes, it is checked.
[15:36] <splizzrinkle> yes
[15:36] <heogen> my emule don't want to connect to the server
[15:36] <splizzrinkle> ndis should work for u
[15:37] <heogen> anyone have emule with very good connection?
[15:37] <d43> blz entaum
[15:37] <felix_> heogen, emule or amule? are your srver list updated? are you under proxy?
[15:37] <MoLoot> Zephryos, I have noticed weirdness with 9.04 which by default required me to disconnect physical network connection to be able to use wireless on laptop.
[15:37] <heogen> amule
[15:37] <heogen> felix_ amule
[15:38] <Zephryos> splizzrinkle: I'm assuming I can just pop in the cards CD and load the driver off that?
[15:38] <splizzrinkle> i have tried most usb wireless stick, wg11v2 works best so ar
[15:38] <splizzrinkle> far*
[15:38] <heogen> felix_ im not under the proxy
[15:38] <splizzrinkle> wg111 v2 netgear
[15:38] <Zephryos> MoLoot: Alright, I'll try that after I get NDIS installed, see if this method works.
[15:38] <evantandersen> how can i reset gnome-panel settings?
[15:38] <felix_> heogen, i think there was an option to change the port you use and check if it works. in emule it was
[15:38] <heogen> felix_ but i did update
[15:39] <heogen> and what port i'll write
[15:39] <felix_> heogen, one you have open and works
[15:40] <heogen> may you say me an example?
[15:40] <Zephryos> splizzrinkle: Alright next question, how the heck do I use the bloody thing..
[15:40] <splizzrinkle> ndis is tricky, leet me get u to a forum
[15:41] <splizzrinkle> one sec
[15:41] <nephish> i am using awesome window manager and cannot seem to find where i disable sounds on events
[15:41] <felix_> heogen, i dunno
[15:41] <felix_> try 80 its http port
[15:41] <felix_> surely its open
[15:41] <MoLoot> Zephryos, good luck.  lemme know if unplugging it worked for you.
[15:42] <splizzrinkle> google ndiswrapper, first link
[15:42] <heogen> felix_  ok. i'll see
[15:42] <heogen> felix_ thank you
[15:43] <jthing> I can't find package pgsql-dev
[15:43] <splizzrinkle> 6.00 ebay- get's u a wg111 v2 , ndis = 12.00 in advil
[15:43] <felix_> jthing, you have all repositoryes enabled?
[15:43] <Greggaz> i have installed ubuntu 9.0.4 Along side windows vista how do i remove linux from the system?
[15:44] <jthing> jthing: what do you mean enabled?
[15:44] <splizzrinkle> Greggaz. delete the partition
[15:44] <jthing> jfelix_: what do you mean enabled?
[15:44] <Greggaz> splizzrinkle, I clicked install within Windows
[15:44] <splizzrinkle> u used wubbi ?
[15:44] <felix_> jthing, system/admin/ software origins. tick repos you want. i have all ticked, minus proposed and backports
[15:44] <Greggaz> i Got the disc and installed where it says "install inside windows"
[15:44] <jthing> jfelix_: I just got a reply "can't find package pgsql-dev"
[15:45] <splizzrinkle> u have a dual boot screen ?
[15:45] <Greggaz> yes
[15:45] <Greggaz> i want to remove linux
[15:45] <genii> Greggaz: Then de-install from Control Panel...Add/Remove
[15:45] <Greggaz> add and remove programs?
[15:45] <felix_> jthing, i can't download neither, are you sure its called that way?
[15:46] <splizzrinkle> u can edit boot.ini and delete the folder
[15:46] <Paddy_EIRE> hey genii
[15:46] <genii> Greggaz: Yes.
[15:46] <Greggaz> thanks genii you rock :D
[15:46] <Dillizar> lol
[15:46]  * genii slides Paddy_EIRE a coffee
[15:46] <jthing> felipe_: I did a sudo apt-get install pgsql-dev. In recognizes it's existence, but can't find it
[15:46] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[15:47] <becomingGuru> jthing: Use aptitude, a better package manager
[15:47] <Mortuis> Anyone know how to fix sound in the web browser?
[15:47] <Mortuis> Specifically I get no sound in firefox on sites like youtube.
[15:47] <splizzrinkle> flash working ok?
[15:47] <mario_> hello everyone
[15:48] <Mortuis> the video works if that's what you mean?
[15:48] <donaldinho> hi all. does anyone know where the config is saved when a user shares a folder via samba sharing.
[15:48] <splizzrinkle> what flash player u using?
[15:48] <Mortuis> I believe I installed a .deb off adobe.com
[15:49] <Dillizar> Mortuis, version of the ubuntu
[15:49] <christoffer> Hi i have a problem with my wireless card i have to switch it on but how ??? can someone help me :D!???
[15:49] <Mortuis> 9.04
[15:49] <Mortuis> Ot
[15:49] <felix_> jthing, there is no such package under that name in ubuntu repos. i just checked with aptitude
[15:49] <Dillizar> Mortuis, you have installed the flash player and doesnt work ??
[15:49] <Mortuis> disregard "Ot", that was a typo ;-)
[15:50] <thiebaude> Mortuis: did you restart firefox?
[15:50] <Mortuis> Dillizar, It was working a few days ago. I'm not sure what changed to make it not work and I'm not sure where to start looking.
[15:50] <Mortuis> thiebaude, I did restart Firefox
[15:50] <mario_> if any can help me out. Since i install the last ubuntu patch 9.04 my VMManager stop working. Any one  know how to fix this
[15:50] <Mortuis> I do get the animation at http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/welcome/
[15:50] <Mortuis> under "Adobe Flash Player"
[15:51] <Dillizar> Mortuis, hmm remove it and then reinstall it again cuz i think ubuntu still install the flash player 9 as default
[15:51] <Mortuis> Dillizar, thanks, I'll give that a shot.
[15:51] <Dillizar> Mortuis, you know how to remove it right??
[15:51] <thiebaude> Mortuis: did you check to see how many flash players are installed in synaptic
[15:53] <Mortuis> in synaptic I saw flashplayer-nonfree and flashplayer-installer
[15:53] <Mortuis> I removed them both, then added flashplayer-installer again
[15:53] <Mortuis> Still getting video on youtube but no sound
[15:53] <thiebaude> Mortuis: i dont have flash either and it was working last nite, hmm
[15:53] <Mortuis> so I must be missing something..
[15:54] <thiebaude> youtube was working yesterday
[15:54] <Dillizar> Mortuis, no just remove them
[15:54] <Dillizar> and then
[15:54] <Dillizar> install it from the web site
[15:54] <splizzrinkle> try to narrow your sound down by checking in another browser
[15:54] <Mortuis> Dillizar, Okay
[15:55] <maniel> hi, how to make update-initramfs include vesafb to my custom's kernel initramfs? it adds this module for stock kernels, my kernel has some minor modifications to standard config, it's not that different from the stock's
[15:56] <Mortuis> The .deb on adobe.com is for 32 bit, I'm running a 64 bit. I haven't done much installing from source, but if I download the tar.gz and install from that can I remove it with synaptic if that doesn't work? Or is it uglier than that?
[15:57] <EugenMayer> actually are there any problems installing ubuntu on a ext4?
[15:57] <ToySoLitO> yo tengo un problema con el idioma, jeje
[15:57] <jpds> !es | ToySoLitO
[15:57] <Mortuis> Dillizar, The .deb on adobe.com is for 32 bit, I'm running a 64 bit. I haven't done much installing from source, but if I download the tar.gz and install from that can I remove it with synaptic if that doesn't work? Or is it uglier than that?
[15:58] <m41n1> Hi
[15:58] <Dillizar> Mortuis, donwload the tar i always do that
[15:58] <Mortuis> Dillizar, alright
[15:59] <morgoth> anybody here can help me figuring out why compiling source code wont work?
[15:59] <morgoth> i get main.cc warnings
[15:59] <SpaceBass> hey guys
[15:59] <ToySoLitO> nunca habia visto un canal con yanta gente, guau!
[15:59] <Dillizar> !hi | SpaceBass
[15:59] <SpaceBass> I'm getting seg faults with VMware Player - anyone got it working? my google fu is weak today
[15:59] <Mortuis> Dillizar, It's saying "Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the Adobe Flash Player installer."
[15:59] <darthanubis> morgoth, no one can help with that vague of a statement
[15:59] <becomingGuru> SpaceBass, Hello!
[15:59] <morgoth> darthanubis: i understand
[16:00] <SpaceBass> (also having problems joining my wifi via radius... but thats another issue)
[16:00] <Pafs321> hi! i'm trying to install netbeans using the synaptics, i select netbeans, and the other packages, short after it begins the download, it asks me to insert "APTonCD for ubuntu intrepid - i386 (2009-05-02 10:31) CD1" i'm using ubuntu jaunty... but i put the cd with my latest apton cd backup, and nothing happends, and i can't download netbeans
[16:00] <Dillizar> damn Mortuis i dont know i am 32
[16:00] <morgoth> let me prvoide a paste bin
[16:00] <morgoth> darthanubis: hold on plesse
[16:00] <Mortuis> Dillizar, thanks anway, I at least have an idea what I'm looking for now.
[16:00] <m41n1> Lately, I am experiencing some problems with my Ubuntu. (I have Jaunty). When I try to hibernate or suspend, it logs out. Sometimes it does log out even randomly. The same happens when I press ALT+CTR+F1 to start a console session or when I try to change the output of the VGA to a big screen. And also, ALT+F2 doesn't work anymore either
[16:00] <m41n1> do you know what's the problem?
[16:00] <Dillizar> Mortuis, if you donwload the deb file maybe it will download the 64
[16:01] <Mortuis> Dillizar, I tried the .deb first and it warned me that I was using the wrong architecture
[16:01] <Mortuis> But I know what to search for on google now
[16:01] <Mortuis> So I think I'll be good. Thanks again.
[16:02] <Dillizar> lol Mortuis ok bon chance
[16:02] <kuttans> hii friends
[16:02] <kuttans> im new to ubuntu
[16:02] <SpaceBass> anyone using VMware in jaunty?
[16:02] <morgoth> darthanubis: http://pastebin.com/d2c3b9e07
[16:02] <pIsIq> how can i enter in other computer from my network ? i know the user and pass, gonna copy some files
[16:02] <kuttans> im using jaunty
[16:02] <kuttans> and im facing a lot of problems
[16:02] <morgoth> or anybody else who can shine a light on compling errors..
[16:03] <kuttans> i almost do a fsck 4 out of 5 times
[16:03] <kuttans> can anybody of some help pls
[16:04] <morgoth> anybody here can help me figuring out why compiling source code wont work?
[16:04] <morgoth> check http://pastebin.com/d2c3b9e07
[16:04] <kuttans> anyone there
[16:05] <kuttans> when i start up ubuntu it says to run fsck manually
[16:05] <benkong2> yo
[16:05] <ziroday> morgoth: what are you compiling?
[16:05] <morgoth> ziroday: something called pftp-shit
[16:05] <morgoth> shopuld compile fine
[16:05] <phw> Hi there, do i need to activate a serial console interface on my ubuntu server or is it turned on by default?
[16:05] <benkong2> kumelk, is your filesystem clean?
[16:05] <morgoth> i can give you a link of the source
[16:06] <ziroday> morgoth: I have a feeling there error is farther up
[16:06] <morgoth> if needed
[16:06] <morgoth> farther up?
[16:06] <Pafs321> i'm trying to install netbeans using the synaptics, i select netbeans, it asks me to install other packages and short after it begins the download, it asks me to insert "APTonCD for ubuntu intrepid - i386 (2009-05-02 10:31) CD1" i'm using ubuntu jaunty... but i put the cd with my latest apton cd backup, and nothing happends, and i can't download netbeans, can you help me?
[16:06] <kuttans> and when i use the up arrow key i get some command like dpkg -i sort of python_gamin
[16:06] <kumelk> benkong2 ?
[16:06] <benkong2> yes
[16:06] <kumelk> my filesystem ?
[16:06] <shiznebit> hi, does anyone know whether changing NETDOWN=yes to NETDOWN=no  in  /etc/init.d/halt  will keep the networking from stopping if i suspend  the computer ?
[16:06] <bomber> salve
[16:06] <kuttans> hello everybody
[16:06] <benkong2> sorry that was kuttans
[16:07] <System404> woo headin to manchester tomorrow to see jean michelle jarre woo
[16:07] <kuttans> yes benkong2
[16:07] <kuttans> you talking to me?
[16:07] <benkong2> kuttans, fschk is file system check
[16:07] <Rosaneeetttt> hi, please ,i want to install fwbuilder, firewall , but i dont know where i will install it , in desktop or in server , anyone can help me
[16:07] <kuttans> yeah i know and i do that
[16:07] <Rosaneeetttt> pleaaaaaaaaase
[16:07] <guibsou> test
[16:07] <Decepticon> test failed!
[16:07] <kuttans> but the problem is the frequency of it
[16:07] <bomber> brazero problem
[16:07] <kuttans> its almost like i do fsck 4 out 5 times
[16:08] <Dr_Willis> !info fwbuilder
[16:08] <benkong2> oh
[16:08] <guibsou> .
[16:08] <coreyman> Hey where is the system log at again? I just shut down my computer and it never shutdown I want to find the source of the problem.
[16:08] <Dr_Willis> coreyman:  /var/log
[16:08] <coreyman> thx Dr_Willis
[16:08] <kuttans> and when i use synaptic or apt-get i get a dpkg serious error : file list file for python_gamin missing error
[16:09] <kuttans> but im able to install programs with no problem
[16:09] <benkong2> kuttans, I am lost on that one :(
[16:09] <kuttans> which one
[16:09] <kuttans> about the synaptic??
[16:09] <coreyman> Dr_Willis tons of logs there wich one do you think would have shutdown messages.
[16:09] <benkong2> on the gamin thingy
[16:09] <kuttans> and the dpkg error?
[16:09] <kuttans> ohh ok
[16:09] <FlightlessDuck> synaptic works...
[16:09] <Dr_Willis> coreyman:  not a clue..
[16:09] <kuttans> when i use apt-get i get this dpkg : serious error
[16:10] <coreyman> Dr_willis thx.
[16:10] <kuttans> and it tells about file list file for packagename is missing
[16:10] <FlightlessDuck> u have to type sudo apt-get instal (name of package)
[16:10] <kuttans> and further it says assuming package has no files installed and continues
[16:10] <Rosaneeetttt> I want to install fwbuilder, firewall , but i dont know where i will install it , in desktop or in server , anyone can help me pleaaaaaaaaseee
[16:10] <kuttans> you talking to me flightlessduck?
[16:10] <casperrr> Hello. Tell me please, how I can play ape cd images with cue-sheet file?
[16:10] <FlightlessDuck> yeah I was
[16:11] <kuttans> but when i try to install using that command it says that the package is not existing
[16:11] <FlightlessDuck> You should do that and it would work, I don't see ur problem
[16:11] <FlightlessDuck> are u connected to the internet?
[16:11] <kuttans> yeah
[16:11] <jazyeee> helo
[16:12] <kuttans> haha.......im talking to you from my lappy where i installed jaunty
[16:12] <jazyeee> some one can help me
[16:12] <FlightlessDuck> does the program actually exist?
[16:12] <coreyman> Anyone know where I can find the source of a bad shutdown (one that never completley shuts down)
[16:12] <kuttans> so no question of not having net con
[16:12] <kuttans> i dont know
[16:12] <jazyeee> i got problem on display on ubuntu 9.04
[16:12] <jazyeee> no display show on booting to ubuntu
[16:12] <kuttans> just hold on a second i will tell you exactly wat it is saying after a command sudo apt-get install -f
[16:12] <kuttans> ok
[16:12] <FlightlessDuck> them that may be your problem, make sure you are typing in the right progream name
[16:13] <kuttans> god!!!!!!! now im getting segmentation faulty error
[16:13] <kuttans> what to do now
[16:13] <Pafs321> i'm trying to install netbeans using the synaptics, i select netbeans, it asks me to install other packages and short after it begins the download, it asks me to insert "APTonCD for ubuntu intrepid - i386 (2009-05-02 10:31) CD1" i'm using ubuntu jaunty... but i put the cd with my latest apton cd backup, and nothing happends, and i can't download netbeans, i tried to install it using the shell and it still asks me for the CD, can you help me please?
[16:13] <kuttans> and what might have caused this
[16:13] <FlightlessDuck> well good luck to you kuttens, I have to go to the doctors! Ugg...
[16:13] <kuttans> ok
[16:14] <kuttans> let me see
[16:14] <helppp> please i want to add a file in samba with ubuntu server 9.04
[16:14] <FlightlessDuck> yeah it may of, ask around
[16:14] <kuttans> ok bye
[16:14] <FlightlessDuck> bye
[16:14] <lakotajames> When I put a sd card into my reader, it mounts as read-only.  mounting it manually with "mount" does the same thing.  "pmount" claims that it isn't a removable drive.  Help?
[16:14] <lakotajames> Pafs321: try removing the cd from the software sources thingy
[16:14] <morgoth> anybody here can help me figuring out why compiling source code wont work?
[16:14] <morgoth> check http://pastebin.com/d2c3b9e07
[16:14] <Dr_Willis> helppp:  repharse the problem to the chanel - your statement was a little.. strange
[16:15] <Dr_Willis> morgoth:  you did install build-essential package? :)
[16:15] <Pafs321> lakotajames: how do i do that?
[16:15] <helppp> i don't know how add a file in samba configuring in ubuntu server 9.04
[16:15] <morgoth> Dr_Willis: thanks for replying..i have no idea..i installed xubuntu under vmware
[16:16] <morgoth> kinda clean install..wouldnt that be default?
[16:16] <lakotajames>  Pafs321: System>Administration>Software Sources
[16:17] <Pafs321> lakotajames: i found it, thanks!
[16:17] <kuttans> hey guys
[16:17] <rogue780_> has anyone here ever setup an iourbanterror server on their ubuntu box?
[16:17] <lakotajames> Pafs321: Welcome.
[16:17] <kuttans> anyone know how to import deb packages in synaptic
[16:17] <kuttans> i mean the import downloaded package is not working i guess
[16:17] <morgoth> Dr_Willis: seems not to be there
[16:17] <kuttans> anyone know about it
[16:17] <lakotajames> When I put a sd card into my reader, it mounts as read-only.  mounting it manually with "mount" does the same thing.  "pmount" claims that it isn't a removable drive.  Help?
[16:18] <Dr_Willis> morgoth:  sudo apt-get install build-essential, but it looks lik eyou allready got it installed.   Seems the code is calling some function with 2 arguments when it wants 3.. No idea how to fix it. I dont do C
[16:18] <Caboose> hi i was wondering if someone could help me
[16:18] <morgoth> Dr_Willis: it's not installed by default
[16:19] <Dr_Willis> morgoth:  if you dident have build-essential install.. you wouldent even be getting those error message. but it could be you installed gcc, and not all of build-essential.. so try installing it.
[16:19] <lakotajames> Caboose:You don't have to ask to ask.  Just ask.
[16:19] <morgoth> Dr_Willis: i installed G== myself yeah
[16:19] <morgoth> G++
[16:19] <morgoth> Dr_Willis: no differences after recompile
[16:20] <Caboose> ok im trying to change from win7 to linux.. so i burned the CD of the image.. it boots fine, but when i clickm install it takes me to a blinking cursor screen and stays there
[16:20] <Caboose> its a laptop as well
[16:20] <morgoth> its not a code error but a compiling thing
[16:20] <Dr_Willis> /usr/include/bits/fcntl2.h:51: error: call to ‘__open_missing_mode’ declared with attribute error: open with O_CREAT in second argument needs 3 arguments
[16:21] <lakotajames> Caboose: did you do the cd check thingy?  Maybe it was a bad burned.  something similar happened to me once.
[16:21] <Caboose> i can try that i guess to see
[16:21] <morgoth> Dr_Willis: yeah..same code compiles fine on other linux
[16:21] <Dr_Willis> i got no other ideas.. :)
[16:21] <Caboose> it loaded the boot screen fine
[16:21] <Dr_Willis> morgoth:  ask in #C perhaps.
[16:21] <morgoth> hmm
[16:22] <morgoth> i really think its not a coding thing but merely a library/compiling thing
[16:22] <iTomb> anyone able to help w/ some newb questions?
[16:22] <Caboose> ok lakotajames imma try the check think ill be right back
[16:22] <Dr_Willis> iTomb:  thats what we do all day in here. :)
[16:22] <iTomb> excellent
[16:23] <iTomb> I just installed 9 on a 2nd ntfs drive and now getting grub error 17
[16:23] <kuttans> segmentation faultsts when doing sudo apt-get update
[16:23] <kuttans> anyone can help
[16:23] <furythor> Hello, can anyone say for what reason I get this error message while trying to modify menus on my drupal website "Fatal error:  Allowed memory size of 16777216 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 354751 bytes) in /var/www/includes/common.inc on line 2888"
[16:24] <lakotajames> When I put a sd card into my reader, it mounts as read-only.  mounting it manually with "mount" does the same thing.  "pmount" claims that it isn't a removable drive.  Help?
[16:24] <kuttans> segmentaion faultsts... 3%
[16:24] <furythor> aaw, found it already
[16:24] <furythor> limit in PHP resource usage
[16:24] <flintwingel> furythor: this is an ubuntu chat, not drupal... but try increasing the memory allocation for php in php.ini
[16:24] <morgoth> lakotajames: maybe you locked the sd card?
[16:25] <iTomb> xp on primary drive / ubuntu on alt drive.  Grub Error 17 at boot
[16:25] <lakotajames> morgoth:  No, it's not locked, already tried it. Thanks, though
[16:25] <furythor> ﻿flintwingel thanks for help, I was in right file already ...
[16:25] <Dr_Willis> iTomb:   are you saying you have 2 seperate hard drives? or one drive with several partitions?
[16:25] <iTomb> 2 drives
[16:26] <coreyman> How do I find out what modules are loading in /proc/modules
[16:26] <Dr_Willis> iTomb:  is the 2nd drive just for 'linux' or dose it share some  partitions with windows also?
[16:26] <iTomb> dedicated to linux
[16:26] <christof2er> HI
[16:26] <mhm> Hello, today, I placed in my Windows XP CD since I need to install it to use one program. I went into the setup for windows xp and deleted one of my linux partitions. And I quit installation (didn't install anything). Now my grub says error loading operating systems. What caused that?
[16:26] <lakotajames> morgoth: it's a sdmicro in an adapter.  You think maybe the lock switch is broken?
[16:26] <morgoth> lakotajames: well the luck thing jumps to mind first..
[16:26] <coreyman> mhm you deleted your partition
[16:26] <flintwingel> coreyman: cat /proc/modules or lsmod
[16:27] <morgoth> try another sd card and see if you get the same thing
[16:27] <coreyman> flintwingel thx
[16:27] <mhm>  How do I fix it?/
[16:27] <Vissud> does anyone here use opendns? I can't seem to get something real simple to work
[16:27] <mhm> How do I fix what windows corrupted..
[16:27] <furythor> How to save file with nano editor ?
[16:27] <Da_Bing> 有说汉语的么？
[16:27] <lakotajames> morgoth: luck thing?
[16:27] <mhm> furythor: CTRL+O ?
[16:27] <iTomb> furythor -> Ctrl-X
[16:27] <morgoth> lock thing
[16:27] <morgoth> typo
[16:27] <Dr_Willis> iTomb:  could try in bios/menus to boot that hard drive.. not the windows drive.. it may be the grub installer got confused.  Other then that.. not sure of a proper/easy way to tell you to fix  it. I know enoguh grub to fix things If i was sitting at the machine.. but not via irc. :)
[16:27] <lakotajames> Oj
[16:28] <Vissud> i thought if a domain couldn't be resolved with the first entry in resolv.conf it would check the next one to see if that server can resolv it
[16:28] <lakotajames> morgoth:oh, yeah.  alrighty.
[16:28] <Vissud> but that's not happening
[16:28] <Vissud> it fails on the first one
[16:28] <flintwingel> furythor: ctrl-x and it should ask you if you want to save
[16:28] <magician0617> furythor: it should be ctrl>o
[16:28] <lakotajames> morgoth: imma try and find a different adaptor
[16:28] <morgoth> good luck
[16:28] <magician0617> my fault it is ctrl>x
[16:28] <christof2er> help me with this error plzzz make[2]: *** No rule to make target `kernel/bounds.c', needed by `kernel/bounds.s'.  Stop.
[16:28] <christof2er> make[1]: *** [prepare0] Error 2
[16:28] <Da_Bing> 有说汉语的么？
[16:28] <christof2er> make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.28-11-generic'
[16:28] <christof2er> make: *** [fsam7400.ko] Error 2
[16:29] <FloodBot3> christof2er: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:29] <christof2er> what to do ?
[16:30] <iTomb> any idea how I could get in to grub to make changes?
[16:30] <Vissud> anyone with opendns problems?
[16:30] <Da_Bing> What you can speak Chinese?
[16:30] <lakotajames> morgoth: used a different adaptor, same problem.
[16:30] <christof2er> help me with fsam7400-0.5.1 plz :D
[16:30] <irc_istemci> hello how to use Canon-PIXMA_iP1500 fine print on ubuntu 9.04?
[16:30] <Dr_Willis> iTomb:  grub is well doucmented all over.. the menu.lst file is at /boot/grub/menu.lst
[16:30] <DJones> !chinese | Da_Bing
[16:31] <christof2er> .
[16:31] <Dr_Willis> iTomb:  now what to change.. is the issue... the grub docs/ubuntu grub wiki pages may have some tips
[16:31] <Dr_Willis> !grub | iTomb
[16:31] <irc_istemci> this install succesfull but don't print and no error
[16:31] <ealing> Da_Bing: What you can speak Chinese?    ///can you speak chinese
[16:32] <ealing> Da_Bing:   where
[16:32] <Da_Bing> google帮我翻译的
[16:32] <iTomb> Ubottu: no, XP is on my main drive.  I installed Ubuntu on a dedicated 2nd drive.  Now getting error 17.  Not finding any docs on it thus far.
[16:32] <Da_Bing> here
[16:32] <Dr_Willis> iTomb:  ubottu is a bot.. it just spits out factoids and urls
[16:32] <irc_istemci> how to use Canon-PIXMA_iP1500 fine print on ubuntu 9.04?
[16:32] <Da_Bing> 我们来冒泡冒泡
[16:32] <Dr_Willis> iTomb:  the offical grub home page proberly has info on that error
[16:32] <irc_istemci> document or step step guide please
[16:32] <Chousuke> !zh
[16:32] <ealing> O:-)
[16:33] <Da_Bing> Thanks
[16:33] <iTomb> checking...
[16:33] <iTomb> lol
[16:33] <iTomb> me smart
[16:33] <Da_Bing> ubottu》》Thanks
[16:33] <Da_Bing> 不会吧，这么先进
[16:34] <ealing> :)
[16:34] <hemanth>  how to check if a particular package is installed or not , and install it if it's not from a script , say for example : mogrify tool requires imagemagick ; rather putting it simple , how to check and install list of know dependencies and install them all
[16:34] <hemanth> {missed the previous answer }
[16:34] <flintwingel> irc_istemci: have you checked out the Canon website?
[16:35] <Da_Bing> how to kill bot？
[16:35] <irc_istemci> flintwingel: yes but they don't full support it
[16:35] <Blackout> no take english
[16:36] <Blackout> im not
[16:36] <irc_istemci> flintwingel: i look one driver but don't work
[16:36] <prathamesh> Da_Bing: which bot!!!
[16:36] <Blackout> como how
[16:36] <Da_Bing> this
[16:37] <flintwingel> irc_istemc: http://www.openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Canon-PIXMA_iP1500
[16:37] <irc_istemci> flintwingel: I do not use system administrator use by starter some problems very hard
[16:37] <Blackout> me podria alguien decir como se instala el messengar para el ubuntu
[16:37] <irc_istemci> flintwingel: this link success right?
[16:37] <Blackout> :)
[16:37] <Blackout> :)
[16:38] <Blackout> :)
[16:38] <FloodBot3> Blackout: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:38] <LjL> !es | Blackout
[16:38] <maniel> ah, at last i forced my custom kernel to  use WUXGA framebuffer console;-)
[16:38] <flintwingel> irc_istemci: I don't know, I haven't used it - I'm just trying to help you find some information
[16:38] <maniel> it wasn't loading vesafb etc to initramfs
[16:39] <Blackout> no entender my a your
[16:39] <irc_istemci> flintwingel: thanks fir info
[16:39] <Blackout> go to the crap
[16:39] <Blackout> jajqjajajajjajaja
[16:39] <lakotajames> is there a scandisk for linux?
[16:39] <Blackout> no entiendo ni papa de lo que me sale en el monitor
[16:40] <flintwingel> lakotajames: fsck is the linux equivalent
[16:40] <Blackout> how install messenger for linux
[16:40] <coz_> lakotajames,  maybe  "badblocks"  or  "fsck"
[16:40] <Blackout> how
[16:41] <whatvn> what messenger?
[16:41] <Blackout> lo de chatear tio
[16:42] <lakotajames> flintwingel:I tried to check it in GParted, which I assume uses fsck, and it told me I should probably run scandisk.  It's a fat16 sdcard.
[16:42] <Ultimate_darknes> !msn > Blackout
[16:42] <Blackout> ke me dejeis en paz
[16:43] <felix_> lol
[16:43] <felix_> what a nerd
[16:43] <heatmzzr> is there a way to format my winblows C: drive and preserve the bootloader so I dont have to reinstall linux?
[16:43] <Dr_Willis> lakotajames:  would be best to put it in a windows box and scan it.
[16:43] <heatmzzr> can I format c from linux
[16:43] <Dr_Willis> heatmzzr:  formating wont erase the mbr.
[16:44] <Dr_Willis> heatmzzr:  sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/DEVICENAME (be carefull)
[16:44] <r3dux> heatmzzr, copy the MBR somewhere, it's the first 168 bytes of the drive or so (look it up - 168 might be incorrect)
[16:44] <miarf> what's the best course of action to get a creative x-fi card kickin' in 9.04?
[16:44] <lakotajames> Dr_Willis:  Well, I don't have a windows box on hand right now.  Just reformatting it should fix it, right?  From GParted?
[16:45] <Dr_Willis> lakotajames:  or via command line.. yes.. proberly should.
[16:45] <r3dux> miarf,  I don't think X-Fi works under linux... Or it didn't when I looked it up when I got mine 2 years back
[16:45] <flintwingel> lakotajames: i think gparted means for you to put the sdcardf in a windows pc. You could also use fsck -t msdos
[16:45] <ealing> ?
[16:45] <Dr_Willis> x-fi has some support now.. but no idea how good it is.. Creative really dropped the ball on that one...
[16:46] <lakotajames> Dr_Willis:  Would fat32 be less likely to asplode and turn read-only like fat16 did?
[16:46] <miarf> oh
[16:46] <flintwingel> lakotajames: or fsck -t vfat depening on how your card is formatted
[16:46] <Dr_Willis> lakotajames:  i doubt if it matters
[16:46] <Slart> miarf, r3dux I think there are OSS drivers.. I might have heard something about an alsa driver too.. you'd have to check creatives website for info
[16:46] <Rovanion> Could someone help me figure out why kdenlive crashes on launch?
[16:46] <miarf> thank you for the tips
[16:46] <r3dux> Creative don't care about linux, and we shouldn't care about them IMHO. Bunch of [Expletive-Here]'s
[16:47] <emigdio> ola
[16:47] <strombom> is it possible to download an alternative version of an application using apt-get ?
[16:47] <whatvn> tired!
[16:47] <emigdio> tego problemas con mi conexion de internet en mi xubunto
[16:47] <Dr_Willis> !pin | strombom
[16:48] <strombom> thx
[16:48] <miarf> r3dux: although, it does seem that they have released gpl code for x-fi
[16:48] <miarf> (or something)
[16:48] <miarf> so maybe we'll see better support in the future
[16:48] <r3dux> strombom, also, you can pick a particular version of a package through synaptic and the Versions tab
[16:48] <jie> hello,I am new here
[16:48] <strombom> i dont have X
[16:48] <mike-daer> is banshee the closest thing to amarok for gnome?
[16:49] <Dr_Willis> creative needs to do somthing.. I normally buy a new sound card to replace the onboard.. but with their x-fi record.. ive not even bothered for the last 3 machines.
[16:49] <linjian> hello
[16:49] <felix_> !bulder
[16:49] <jie> hello
[16:49] <felix_> !builder
[16:49] <r3dux> miarf? Orly? Well, it's a start - I've ditched my X-Fi card now so too little too late, but anything's welcome.
[16:49] <linjian> i am peter,i am a newer
[16:49] <miarf> it's a shame, this x-fi is a smashing piece of equipment when i boot to winxp
[16:49] <ealing> help
[16:49] <Dr_Willis> !ask | ealing
[16:49] <oshua86> When I try to connect to my ssh server, it takes a long time to prompt me for a password, does anyone has any idea why?
[16:50] <r3dux> miarf - It IS a really nice bit of kit, just a shame that it's windows or nothing to really use it
[16:50] <miarf> r3dux: exactly
[16:50] <Dr_Willis> oshua86:  ive noticed that on occasion also.. you culd try 'ssh -vv remotebox . or set up the keys stuff where you dont need the passwords
[16:50] <miarf> oh well, it's probably time to give their early beta drivers a try
[16:51] <r3dux> I've got an external soundblaster 16 card I use in linux because I wanted a optical input/output (TOSlink) for recording guitar stuff from an effects pedal, even that's a pain in the arse and it's basically a SB16 w/ a couple of ports :)
[16:52] <oshua86> Dr_Willis, This is the output of the -vvv the last part is where it seems to take a while to move from http://paste.ubuntu.com/178050/
[16:52] <ealing> Good Night ,EveryOne
[16:52] <r3dux> Actually, I think it's more the Intel HDA that's a pain in the arse. ALC889 chipset. It loves playing up, and needing ALSA 1.0.18, and special .conf settins etc =/ Boo/Hiss
[16:52] <gartral> how do i change my System's host name?
[16:53] <Slart> gartral: I think there is a "hostname" command
[16:53] <ealing> I didn't know
[16:53] <Slart> gartral: man hostname would tell you more about it
[16:53] <r3dux> What's your current hostname?
[16:53] <r3dux> man hostame
[16:53] <r3dux> No manual entry for hostame
[16:53] <r3dux> OR not...
[16:53] <mike-daer> is there a reason why opera isnt in synaptics?
[16:53] <flintwingel> oshua86: it may be because the server is doing reverse dns - try adding "UseDNS no" to the sshd_config file on the server & restart sshd
[16:54] <Slart> r3dux: works on my system here
[16:54] <Rovanion> Could someone help me with kdenlive?
[16:54] <r3dux> typo... soz =)
[16:54] <r3dux> man HOSTNAME not hostame
[16:54] <b0hne> hi, i got an intel hda sound device. i checked the chipset i had a look into /usr/share/doc/alsa-base/driver/ALSA-Configuration.txt.gz choose the module which should be for my card and added some different option to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf. i have no sound. i have to mention that i want to have sound via optical connection. i checked alsamixer and everything is on full level, and i checked different options in audio settings. not
[16:54] <b0hne> hing happens. anyone knows where i could have a look at?
[16:54] <Rovanion> It doesnt run
[16:54] <Raex93> Hey. I need help again. I cant get my speakers to work.
[16:55] <Aliasa> when i installed ubuntu on my notebook,i use 15 gb,,,but naw i want more,,..can i ?
[16:55] <mike-daer> try typing 'alsomixer' in the term and going thru all of the volume settings, make sure theyre not muted
[16:55] <mike-daer> that happens to me everytime i upgrade
[16:55] <Raex93> okay
[16:55] <tw3ak> hello guys anyone running an amd64 system and having kernel errors after last night's updates?
[16:56] <Jugger> Hello everyone, I just installed Ubuntu and only problem i am having is i cant get nVidia X Server to recognize im using a LCD monitor not a CRT monitor.
[16:56] <tw3ak> my cdrom  serial dev quit working
[16:56] <Aliasa>  when i installed ubuntu on my notebook,i use 15 gb,,,but naw i want more,,..can i ?
[16:56] <r3dux> Bohne, you'll be lucky to get any optical out of a HDA-Intel. Make sure you have the latest Alsa (1.0.19 as of speaking) - but even then, I doubt it
[16:56] <oshua86> flintwingel, that did it, its fast now. Do you think there is a security risk in not using reverse DNS?
[16:57] <b0hne> damn it. thanks r3dux
[16:57] <r3dux> Bohne, have you tried "auto", "default", "6stack-dig", etc etc to try to find a version that works? You can look up the options avail for HDA-Intel, I just don't know them off the top of my head...
[16:57] <Raex93> i typed in alsomixer and it doesnt work
[16:57] <b0hne> raex93, alsamixer
[16:57] <Raex93> not found, it says
[16:57] <Raex93> oh
[16:58] <flintwingel> oshua86: I can't think of any risks - if anything its probably safer - you can spoof DNS requests, its harder to spoof IP addresses
[16:58] <mike-daer> alsamixer
[16:58] <bbbb> i want to share a file in samba can you help me?
[16:58] <Jugger> Anyone happen to know if there is any bugs the prevent my nVidia 8800GT from noticing my LCD screen?
[16:58] <r3dux> gnome-alsamixer
[16:58] <b0hne> r3dux is coax or any other connection known to work?
[16:58] <r3dux> No hitting M for mute/unmute...
[16:58] <oshua86> flintwingel, ok, thank you so much
[16:59] <xyzzymaze> Aliasa: Need more info .. how big is the disk .. do you have avail space .. is there another O/S .. etc
[16:59] <Raex93> How cna i tell? all of the bars have some white, green, and red in them
[16:59] <r3dux> I have no idea, sorry b0hne --- my HDA-Intel ALC889 works for laptop speakers, and I use this cheap-ass external SB16 with optical/in/out to push stuff to speakers or record
[16:59] <Aliasa> yes i have windows
[16:59] <Aliasa> i have 160 gb..15
[16:59] <mike-daer> press the m button, that unmutes/mutes
[16:59] <Aliasa> gb in ubuntu
[17:00] <r3dux> Celebrates Creative's Linux support of their soundcards with a cigarette...
[17:00] <r3dux> Yum :)
[17:00] <Aliasa> i have avaible space in wundows about 46 gb
[17:00] <xyzzymaze> Aliasa: and is all the rest of the space allocated to Win?  Or is there free space?
[17:00] <Aliasa> and 7gb in ubuntu
[17:00] <flintwingel> Jugger: I have an nVidia 8800 and have had no problems - what is the output of xrandr
[17:00] <Aliasa> yes in windows i have 45 free space
[17:00] <heatmzzr> Dr_Willis: it doesnt matter that linux drive is /dev/sdb and winblows is dev/sda does it? as it relates to me formatting winblows??
[17:00] <Raex93> i hit M and do i want the MM or the 00?
[17:01] <vadi01> okay in ubuntu build-essential ... has it been replaced ?
[17:01] <miarf> hm, i seem to be unable to find opera for ubuntu 9.04 in add/remove or with synaptics
[17:01] <mike-daer> OO
[17:01] <xyzzymaze> Aliasa: ah, Ok, well you can boot your Ubuntu CD as Live, run gparted and create a new partition in the free space.  make if filetype linux, then reboot the machine
[17:01] <mike-daer> and put all the bars up to the top
[17:01] <Aliasa> ok
[17:01] <Aliasa> thanks
[17:02] <Jugger> flintwingel: I honestly dont know what that means, but i cant get X Server to notice im using a LCD monitor it says im using a CRT.
[17:02] <xyzzymaze> Aliasa: format the new partition use mk2fs and then mount
[17:02] <Rovanion> Is there anyone here who got kdenlive working?
[17:02] <xyzzymaze> Aliasa: you may need to readup on mke2fs , but it's not hard.
[17:02] <Aliasa> ok
[17:02] <xyzzymaze> Aliasa: I hate to say the 'Gentoo' word here, but they have excellent docs on doing this very thing ...
[17:03] <Who> Rovanion: My roommate has
[17:03] <flintwingel> Jugger: Menu->Preferences->Display... does it show you your monitor correctly?
[17:03] <Who> Rovanion: He just installed it :S
[17:03] <JohnTeddy> On a default ubuntu install, what is the quickest way to find my external ip without installing anything?
[17:03] <Rovanion> Who, is he using kubuntu?
[17:03] <Who> JohnTeddy: Go to whatismyip.com works :P
[17:03] <Who> Rovanion: no - Ubuntu
[17:03] <vladimirboyd> John: firefox
[17:04] <Jugger> flintwingel: No that just says Unknown.
[17:04] <Rovanion> Who: 8.10 or 9.4?
[17:04] <r3dux> I changed my NAS mounting from sbbfs to cifs today because, apparently, smbfs is depracated... Still works, don't know why I bothered...
[17:04] <Who> Rovanion: 9.04
[17:04] <JohnTeddy> Who: I'm on server ubuntu
[17:04] <r3dux> "smbfs"
[17:04] <JohnTeddy> Who: command line
[17:04] <Raex93> Still no sound.
[17:04] <Rovanion> Who, okey. I
[17:05] <mike-daer> do u use onboard?
[17:05] <Rovanion> Im still on 8.10
[17:05] <Who> JohnTeddy: well, you _could_ use wget and something like grep? but there must be a better way :P
[17:05] <r3dux> Raex - which soundcard?
[17:05] <flintwingel> Jugger: are you using the nvidia or open source drivers?
[17:05] <Who> Rovanion: Oh, sorry - probably can't help - he didn't have it on 8.10.
[17:05] <Jugger> flintwingel: nVidia 180 driver
[17:06] <Rovanion> What a shame because it seems to be the enly working video editing app for linux except of Blender
[17:07] <r3dux> Plugged in HDMI the other day to watch an avi on screen - lovely picture, zero sound. Worked first time in Vista. =/
[17:07] <clyde> Hello, I'm trying to play videos.  i have tried avi, mv4 and mov and all of them just shut vlc down after about 2 seconds of it being opened without playing any of the video.  any ideas?
[17:07] <Raex93> Im on a HP Mini 1030. Not exactly of the sound card. Ill look that up.
[17:07] <Who> JohnTeddy: if you do find one, maybe let me know here :). Also http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/browse is bound to have it somewhere
[17:07] <flintwingel> Jugger: do you have a Nvidia settings entry in either the Preferences or System ?
[17:07] <crom09> Hello, recently installed ubuntu. Does the windows button in my keyboard do something?
[17:07] <Who> Rovanion: I have to say he does complain that it crashes quite a bit
[17:07] <Who> crom09: Yes,
[17:07] <r3dux> Jugger > System | Adminstration | NVIDIA X Server Settings
[17:07] <Jugger> flintwingel: Yes NVIDIA X Server Settings
[17:07] <b0hne> r3dux, sorry for delay. so it will be best to check out for a good working soundcard to have my optical device feeded :D btw my ati sound over hdmi didnt even work in vista ;)
[17:07] <crom09> who: what?
[17:08] <Who> chrom09: you can also use it for other useful new shortcut keys. If you're running compiz and have the 'expo' plugin on then it will zoom out
[17:08] <Jugger> It only shows CRT Monitor and i cant chane it.
[17:08] <ziroday> Rovanion: error messages?
[17:08] <stuar>  Help please !!! Compile the Kernel 2.6.29.4: scripts/kconfig/conf.c: In function ‘conf_askvalue’
[17:08] <Jugger> change even
[17:08] <Who> chrom09: try holding the win key and scrolling
[17:08] <Rovanion> Who: Blender is so stable that you could push Taipei 101 on it without it crashing but I dont have the time getting into it
[17:08] <ziroday> stuar: we can't help you with kernel compiles here
[17:08] <flintwingel> Jugger: what monitor do you have?
[17:09] <Who> chrom09: also, if you install something like Gnome-do (which I strongly recommend!) then it uses <win>+<space> to start it
[17:09] <r3dux> B0hne - I just got a cheap external USB soundcard so I could feed to output of my guitar pedal into it optically... your mileage my vary ;)
[17:09] <Jugger> flintwingel: Hannspree HF229HPB 22" LCD
[17:09] <crom09> who: I0m not running compiz (have some problems if I enable the propietary drivers of my card)
[17:09] <Rovanion> ziroday: http://pastebin.com/m1b03e94d
[17:09] <Who> chrom09: It is often called 'Super' or 'Meta' on Linux, for obvious reasons ;)
[17:09] <r3dux> "feed the"
[17:09] <crom09> who: so right now, it isn't doing anything at all...
[17:09] <ziroday> Rovanion: sudo apt-get remove kdenlive ; sudo apt-get install kdenlive
[17:09] <crom09> oh
[17:10] <Rovanion> ziroday: Why do I want to reinstall it?
[17:10] <Who> chrom09: I don't know, there are likely applications that _do_ use it. I don't think I use any except Compiz and Gnome-do
[17:10] <ziroday> Rovanion: it appears you are missing a dependancy
[17:10] <Who> chrom09: I also use it for setting shortcut keys of my own, because it is not so often used
[17:10] <crom09> who: so ther'es no harm in making it open the "start menu" like in windows
[17:10] <gaotian> does someone now what is the command to setup LAMP ?
[17:10] <ziroday> gaotian: which part?
[17:11] <Raex93> Anyone who wants to guide me step by step through fixing this, please PM me.
[17:11] <ziroday> !pm | Raex93
[17:11] <r3dux> gaotian, sudo apt-get install apache2 && sudo apt-get install apache2 && sudo apt-get install mysql
[17:11] <Who> chrom09: well, I _think_ that if you do that you might loose the ability to make it a modifier key, but I am not sure about that, maybe have a little test
[17:11] <crom09> ok
[17:11] <r3dux> gaotian, sudo apt-get install php5 && sudo apt-get install apache2 && sudo apt-get install mysql
[17:11] <r3dux> grr...
[17:11] <gaotian> does the order matter ?
[17:12] <Rovanion> ziroday: Well it didnt change anything.
[17:12] <Who> chrom09: good luck :)
[17:12] <r3dux> Not really, you'll have to tie them together yourself - but it's not hard
[17:12] <Who> chrom09: also, if you install gnome-do you'll never want to use the 'start menu' again ;)
[17:12] <Raex93> I have an HDA Intel Sound Card
[17:12] <eb4bgr> hi to all.  I want help about Ubuntu 9.04 boot
[17:12] <flintwingel> Jugger: all I can suggest is you run through the xserver initialisation again -  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[17:13] <ziroday> Rovanion: you did install kdenlive from the repo's?
[17:13] <FlightlessDuck> I have to ask u guys a question
[17:13] <Rovanion> ziroday: Yep, directly via Synaptics
[17:13] <Jugger> flintwingel: im going to try that now and c what happens
[17:14] <ziroday> Rovanion: okay, do sudo aptitude remove kdenlive, then sudo apt-get clean, sudo apt-get autoclean, then sudo updatedb and then mlocate kdenlive and pastebin the results please
[17:14] <crom09> Who: ok, just configured to behave like windows. I'll watch out for any problems.
[17:14] <r3dux> gaotian, if you're going to be doing mysql stuff with php, get PHPMyAdmin as well..
[17:14] <FlightlessDuck> Is it better to have a crappy new computer with horrible specs, or a few years older computer with okay specs?
[17:14] <r3dux> It'll make life easier.
[17:14] <david_> I've got a lenovo x301, and I need to disable the 'trackpad double click' ability (tap_time = 0) but there's no trackpad / input reference in the xorg.conf, how can I set it?
[17:14] <gaotian> r3dux, how to get that ?
[17:14] <ziroday> FlightlessDuck: its all subjective
[17:14] <crom09> Who: and I'll have a look at gnome-do (heard of it once, but not tried it yet).
[17:14] <Rovanion> ziroday: Will try, thanks
[17:15] <crom09> thx
[17:15] <crom09> bye
[17:15] <eb4bgr> hi to all.  I want help about Ubuntu 9.04 boot
[17:15] <FlightlessDuck> yeah, right now I have a choice though...
[17:15] <r3dux> gaotian, apt-get, or try "getdeb.com"
[17:15] <ziroday> david_: that's handled in hal now, you'll have to fiddle with a fdi file
[17:15] <gaotian> ok
[17:15] <r3dux> or google phpmyadmin
[17:15] <gaotian> many thx to r3dux
[17:15] <Who> chrom09: It's always that kind of thing that bites me later - I spend ages trying to work out why my new shortcut key doesn't work)
[17:15] <Raex93> I need help with my sound. I cant hear anything at all.
[17:15] <Slart> FlightlessDuck: if you define "crappy" and "a few" we might be in a better position to help you.. you could also just give us the specs
[17:15]  * david_ hms. Doh @ ziroday. I'll google and see what I can come up with, thanks for the pointer!
[17:16] <ziroday> david_: err one sec :)
[17:16] <r3dux> Raex93, try this: http://r3dux.org/?p=500
[17:16] <FlightlessDuck> well the new computer has 512 ram, not sure processer, and a 20 gig hd, old has a 60 gig hd 1 gig of ram and once again, not sure of the procceser
[17:17] <FlightlessDuck> but the older 1 is 5 years old
[17:17] <casperrr> How to make the rythmbox to understand a .cue files&
[17:18] <Rovanion> ziroday: This is the output I get: http://pastebin.com/m2c987f5a
[17:18] <FlightlessDuck> I'm most likely gonna go woth the older computer, just wanted to get ur opinion
[17:18] <ziroday> Rovanion: okay, rm the first two folders/files
[17:18] <r3dux> FlightlessDuck, this isn't a what-should-i-do-with-a-box channel.... I have no idea what you should do with your box, or which to use - perhaps a hardware channel might?
[17:18] <Slart> FlightlessDuck: the new computer has a 20GB hard drive
[17:18] <ziroday> Rovanion: and then try an reinstall
[17:18] <Rovanion> ziroday: Will do
[17:18] <Slart> FlightlessDuck: ? that doesn't really sound like a new computer.. unless it's a SSD
[17:19] <FlightlessDuck> okay, idk
[17:19] <david_> Some days I hate linux. This is one of 'em. :)
[17:19] <Slart> FlightlessDuck: even the cheapest store built computers come with at 200GB+ Hard drives
[17:20] <MalfermitaKodo> Hi Ubuntuistoj!
[17:20] <william> hi
[17:20] <sisif> Hello guys. Quick question: which one is better ALSA or PulseAudio ?
[17:21] <Tyler> sisif: pulseaudio requires alsa
[17:21] <Tyler> it's a layer on top
[17:21] <r3dux> Try getting rid of pulseaudio....
[17:21] <Slart> sisif: they are not comparable
[17:21] <miarf> is there a way to install opera from synaptics
[17:21] <miarf> or add/remove
[17:21] <Slart> !opera
[17:21] <miarf> thanks
[17:21] <mdude>     /server irc.efnet.net
[17:21] <sisif> Tyler , Slart , can you explain to me a bit more ?
[17:22] <Mohammad[B]> where is keyboard's layout settings save in Ubuntu ? i must clean it ... please help me
[17:22] <dronix> ubuntu is awesome!
[17:22] <Slart> sisif: alsa is the system that actually talks to the hardware.. pulseaudio talks to alsa and moves sound streams around, controls volume etc..
[17:22] <Tyler> sisif: ALSA is the audio layer. Pulseaudio is a layer on top that applications can send streams to for mixing, etc.
[17:22] <r3dux> Pulseaudio is great in theory, bad in implementation --- I move to alsa as much as I can so my sound doesn't stutter, skip or fall over.
[17:22] <Slart> sisif: pulseaudio is like a dj, alsa is like the sound system he uses.. you can use pulseaudio without alsa, afaik
[17:22] <Tyler> sisif: in general, plain ALSA is better than ALSA+Pulseaudio
[17:22] <Slart> sisif: sorry.. can't
[17:22] <Tyler> Slart: um, how??
[17:23] <Tyler> yeah, it's impossible
[17:23] <Rovanion> ziroday: It all works good until the application itself launches. The preconfig works good. But I still get the crash
[17:23] <ziroday> Rovanion: bleh, then I have no idea sorry
[17:23] <quibbler> miarf-> http://www.opera.com/browser/download/
[17:23] <Tyler> most people use alsa without pulseaudio, but those who do use pulseaudio must use alsa as well
[17:23] <MalfermitaKodo> I tried to install a bitmap font I created with gbdfed, but the tutorials I found were outdated, misleading or both. Why does the font not appear in the list?
[17:23] <r3dux> wow - Slart/Tyler --- wish I'd heard all that before I spend a dozen hours researching and experimenting just to get sound to play cleanly -- no joke - accurate & succinct description.
[17:23] <Rovanion> ziroday: Thanks for your time, I appriciate it
[17:24] <ziroday> Rovanion: I'm just sorry we didn't get it resolved. #kubuntu may be able help you further
[17:24] <david_> pulseaudio is garbage
[17:24]  * Phoenix87 re
[17:24] <david_> it's a bit better in the later versions, but earlier ones made me want to slit my wrists.
[17:24] <sisif> Ok, then in other words, which one is better to use? ALSA + Pulse or just ALSA? I`m asking this because since upgrading to 9.04 I`m experiencing issues with sound. Like, sound skips. VERY annoying.
[17:25] <david_> Toss pulseaudio
[17:25] <Slart> r3dux: pulseaudio actually works nicely for me... but there are lots of people out there with pulseaudio-problems... although I think many of those are alsa-related too
[17:25] <xcdfgkjhgcv> sisif: apt-get remove pulseaudio* fixed it for me
[17:25] <david_> install esound. :p
[17:25] <miarf> ah, opera isn't available as repository
[17:25] <david_> Yeah, same -- pulseaudio stutters like a bitch here.
[17:25] <david_> Which reminds me, have to remove it on my new laptop.
[17:25] <r3dux> sisif > http://r3dux.org/?p=500
[17:25] <r3dux> sisif > tsched=0
[17:25] <xcdfgkjhgcv> Pulseaudio is poopoo.
[17:25] <Slart> sisif: if pulseaudio works for you.. use it.. but don't spend days and weeks on fixing it if it doesn't do it's job
[17:25] <ziroday> xcdfgkjhgcv: thats not very helpful
[17:25] <Slart> sisif: it's simply not worth it
[17:26] <xcdfgkjhgcv> Most people don't even need Pulseaudio.
[17:26] <david_> esound > *! :D
[17:27] <sisif> r3dux: thank you.
[17:27] <ubuntu> good morning
[17:27] <sisif> So .. better just stick with plain ALSA, as I see it.
[17:27] <GeorgeJ> Good day!
[17:27] <bookmark> :D
[17:28] <FrankOKJP> Good morning
[17:28] <baobao> is wubi slower than ubuntu?
[17:28] <archman> Is there any way I can mount a Panasonic Lumix LS80 digicam in Jaunty?
[17:28] <FrankOKJP> how are you all doing?
[17:28] <bookmark> does anyone know how to tokenize the output of: dpkg -l?
[17:28] <baobao> if yes, how much slower
[17:28] <gordonjcp> archman: set it to usb storage mode rather than camera mode
[17:28] <erUSUL> bookmark: tokenize ?
[17:29] <FrankOKJP> can someone tell me why I can create a dir from my php code?
[17:29] <Milos_SD> Hi to all. How can I edit uname command so it displays my CPU info with uname -p (and uname -a). It displays unknown now?
[17:29] <Raex93> I found out what the problem is. The speakers on my computer just dont work with ubuntu. They havent fixed it yet either.
[17:29] <FrankOKJP> I am getting permission denied
[17:29] <gordonjcp> FrankOKJP: why, or how?
[17:29] <FrankOKJP> here is my code
[17:29] <FrankOKJP> <?php
[17:29] <FrankOKJP>  mkdir("testing",0777,true);
[17:29] <FrankOKJP>  ?>
[17:29] <FloodBot3> FrankOKJP: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:30] <Slart> Raex93: the speakers don't work?? what kind of high-tech space age speakers are these?
[17:30] <bookmark> or rather de-tokenize, you see dpkg -l outputs a list of packages that are all preceeded with "ii" but i need the packages listed with only space seperating them.
[17:30] <erUSUL> Milos_SD: use "uname -m" ?
[17:30] <gordonjcp> FrankOKJP: don't paste stuff into the channel
[17:30] <archman> gordonjcp, I did activated it...
[17:30] <gordonjcp> FrankOKJP: how are you running that code?
[17:30] <r3dux> Raex93, they CAN work, it's just a pain in the arse to GET your soundcard to worl.
[17:30] <r3dux> "work"
[17:30] <gordonjcp> archman: okay, and what happens when you plug the camera in?
[17:30] <erUSUL> !clone | bookmark i guess you are trying to do this
[17:30] <Raex93> They are actually the built in speakers on the HP mini 1030
[17:30] <Raex93> And the soundcard works because the audio port works
[17:30] <FrankOKJP> I am running it from my public_html folder
[17:30] <Milos_SD> erUSUL, uname -m displays "x86_64"
[17:30] <GeorgeJ> I'm currently having some connection issues with my pppoe connection. It worked just fine on 8.10 but since I upgraded to 9.04, I've been getting timeouts while browsing for some reason. Anyone with some knowledge about this issue? The pppd version in 8.10 is 2.4.4, it got upgraded to 2.4.5 in 9.04.
[17:31] <gordonjcp> FrankOKJP: okay
[17:31] <FrankOKJP> using an explorer
[17:31] <erUSUL> Milos_SD: it is not what you want ?
[17:31] <gordonjcp> FrankOKJP: so your public_html directory is owned by you
[17:31] <r3dux> Raex93? No sound? Config fix req'd.
[17:31] <Milos_SD> erUSUL, no... I want this: Linux myhost 2.6.29-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat May 9 12:47:43 UTC 2009 i686 AMD Athlon(TM) XP 2800+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux
[17:31] <archman> gordonjcp, nothing, except something in dmesg, which I cannot tell you now (camera not here) except if I find some logs of yesterday when I tried it. Can I?
[17:31] <Slart> Raex93: hmm.. sounds like a soundcard problem.. but anyways.. I thought they were special digital speakers or something
[17:31] <gordonjcp> FrankOKJP: and presumably it's only writable by you
[17:31] <gordonjcp> archman: sure, pastebin it though
[17:31] <FrankOKJP> yes
[17:31] <Milos_SD> erUSUL, that last one... AMD ....
[17:31] <archman> gordonjcp, how to find it?
[17:31] <erUSUL> Milos_SD: i see
[17:31] <FrankOKJP> since I am the owner
[17:31] <gordonjcp> FrankOKJP: okay, then ask yourself if the web server is likely to be able to write to it
[17:32] <FrankOKJP> I can read write
[17:32] <gordonjcp> FrankOKJP: who is the webserver running as?
[17:32] <FrankOKJP> that is my question
[17:32] <gordonjcp> archman: /var/log/messages or /var/log/syslog
[17:32] <FrankOKJP> as root
[17:32] <archman> thanks!
[17:32] <oladejo_> yu
[17:32] <gordonjcp> FrankOKJP: more likely as www-data
[17:32] <FrankOKJP> yes
[17:32] <r3dux> asound list to get a list of sound output options, pick ya card analog or digital if it has both and speakers expect a specific one of the two..
[17:32] <gordonjcp> FrankOKJP: can www-data write in your public_html directory?
[17:32] <r3dux> I HATE linux sound. It's rubbish.
[17:33] <FrankOKJP> that I don't know
[17:33] <FrankOKJP> how can I check it
[17:33] <sebsebseb> r3dux: for some of us it's like Windows, just works, no problem
[17:33] <FrankOKJP> ?
[17:33] <r3dux> sebastien, but for a very large percentage it just doesn't. Big problem.
[17:33] <GeorgeJ> su www-data, go to your public_html folder and try creating a new file there
[17:33] <simplexio> have to say that after pulseaudio come, there has been alot more problems
[17:33] <bookmark> ubottu: i uh.... it says i have 1222 packages installed or does it mean installed on the server or something?  I was not aware that I have that many packages installed.
[17:34] <r3dux> I boot exclusively into linux and make it work, but not everyone's a software engineer.
[17:34] <sebsebseb> r3dux: that's, becuse of of hardware manufactures that do not support Linux properly or at all
[17:34] <erUSUL> bookmark: ubottu is a bot i called
[17:34] <Slart> bookmark: the default install consists of many packages
[17:34] <archman> gordonjcp, http://paste.ubuntu.com/178083/
[17:34] <sebsebseb> r3dux: also there are loads of sound thingey to choose from,  ALSA,  OSS, Pulseaudio, etc
[17:34] <bookmark> can anyone sell debian?
[17:34] <MalfermitaKodo> That is STRANGE, after adding the quux directory to the server's font path it no longer even tells me that the font rejistanian exists...
[17:34] <gordonjcp> archman: weird
[17:35] <r3dux> I agree, sebastien  - they don't help, so it's left to the ALSA folk to get it up and running. Fact is though that without significant config modification, I get zero sound out of the box.
[17:35] <FrankOKJP> I can create a file in my public_html
[17:35] <proq> mzz: do you remember the process that loads the gtk theme?  maybe I'll use that instead (but it's been two y
[17:35] <gordonjcp> archman: I don't really know where to start with that, it looks like it's not even associating to the USB controller
[17:35] <archman> gordonjcp, i didn't mount in /media and /mnt and also no autorun
[17:35] <maniel> is there any gui for dkms?
[17:35] <proq> oops, ignore that
[17:35] <linduxed> is there a commandline tool that prints a pictures info, like pixelwidth and stuff like that?
[17:35] <simplexio> r3dux: thats your problem if you by windows only hardware
[17:35] <bookmark> buy
[17:35] <sebsebseb> bookmark: your off topic here, but  go to http://www.gnu.org  go to philosphey section and read the article about selling freesoftware, that should answer your question
[17:35] <Guest63936> can someone help me compile a psptoolchain in dapper drake
[17:35] <linduxed> just the basic stuff
[17:35] <GeorgeJ> Anyone else having problems with their pppoe conectivity as of 9.04?
[17:35] <Slart> bookmark: sell debian? this is #ubuntu.. debian has it's own channel.. you'll have to check the license agreement
[17:35] <bookmark> whoos i thought i was in debian
[17:36] <gordonjcp> archman: it would probably come up as /dev/sdb1 or something similar
[17:36] <r3dux> sebastien, ALSA should eat OSS, and PulseAudio should get its shit together and work. When that happens, we'll be okay... Give it 10 years.
[17:36] <simplexio> r3dux: last 5 or more years alsa has worked everytime on my hw.. only one giving problems is pulseaudio now and then
[17:36] <MalfermitaKodo> linduxed: imagemagick(sp) might be worth a google
[17:36] <bookmark> how the hell did i get here
[17:36] <Guest63936> can someone help me compile a psptoolchain in dapper drake
[17:36] <Guest63936> can someone please help me compile a psptoolchain in dapper drake
[17:36] <r3dux> Guest45171, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[17:36] <simplexio> Guest63936: donr repeat..
[17:37] <dayo> i'm looking for a tool that let's me send a popup msg to all systems on my lan, e.g. "Rebooting proxy in 5 minutes. Please stand by."  any ideas?
[17:37] <simplexio> and another nick to ignore list
[17:37] <sebsebseb> r3dux: pulseaudio and Ubuntu 8.04 yes issues, but it's not so bad now as far as I know
[17:37] <r3dux> Guest45171, configure && make && sudo make install
[17:37] <Guest63936> ok
[17:37] <maniel> i think all those remove/build/install an looking in /var/lib/dkms for module version is little bit time taking, so i'd like to have gui [or at least tui] for that
[17:37] <Guest63936> its a toolchain
[17:38] <Guest63936> and im not familiar with ubuntu
[17:38] <Jugger> Alright so in Unistalled the NVIDIA Drivers and Reinstalled them and im still at the same problem i cant change my display off CRT to my LCD.
[17:38] <r3dux> sebastien, 9.04 - Still lots of pulseaudio/asla issues you need to fix with config tweaks. No kidding.
[17:38] <mzz> proq: gnome-settings-daemon
[17:38] <rohdef> how do I get audacious to play cd?
[17:38] <Milos_SD> so, is there a way to get CPU information (name) with uname -a ? How can I edit /bin/uname file?
[17:38] <bookmark> why didn't you just install with your lcd connected to beginwith Jugger?
[17:38] <sebsebseb> r3dux: ok that's enough for this channel, plenty of others on this network, where you can whine about Linux sound
[17:38] <r3dux> Guest45171, then perhaps you're trying for too much with your first stab at linux... happy reading ;)
[17:39] <sebsebseb> !ot | r3dux
[17:39] <casperrr> How to make the rythmbox to understand a .cue files?
[17:39] <Guest63936> how do i get a built in wacom talblet to work
[17:39] <Slart> Milos_SD: cpu information can be found by doing this "cat /proc/cpuinfo"
[17:39] <Jugger> bookmark i did. i only have this monitor.
[17:39] <Guest63936> how do i get a built in wacom tablet to work
[17:39] <Slart> Milos_SD: not sure why you'd want to edit the uname binary
[17:39] <rohdef_> ok xorg crashed, I'll ask again
[17:39] <r3dux> sebastien, I'm not whining as much as saying No, it DOESN'T work first time. Which is what you're saying is your experience - mine differs.
[17:40] <rohdef_> how do I get audacious to play an audio cd?
[17:40] <r3dux> There's a difference.
[17:40] <Milos_SD> Slart, I told you why... I want to get cpu name with uname -a command, as it is on Arch Linux.
[17:40] <Persi> how do I find and remove the script that launches Conky?
[17:40] <sebsebseb> r3dux: well your not getting help for your issues either,  or helping others with such issues, and so off topic
[17:40] <Persi> already removed it from startup settings list
[17:40] <bookmark> r3dux .cda is just .wav with a differet header maybe that will help you somehow
[17:40] <Guest63936> can someone help me install windows xp in grub
[17:40] <GeorgeJ> Milos_SD: what does your uname -a output now?
[17:41] <sebsebseb> Guest63936: I expect so, but why?
[17:41] <Jugger> flintwingel: you still there?
[17:41] <simplexio> r3dux: and like i said. its your problem- buy hw thats is supported your OS
[17:41] <r3dux> sebastien, fair enough.
[17:41] <sebsebseb> indeed at what  simplexio said
[17:41] <Milos_SD> GeorgeJ, Linux c2d-desktop 2.6.30-rc6-core2duo #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat May 16 22:12:45 CEST 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[17:41] <Persi> please?
[17:41] <Dr_Willis> Guest63936:  the default menu.lst has an example to boot windows near the top of the file, commented out
[17:41] <bookmark> r3dux why not just rip the cd to your harddrive
[17:41] <r3dux> ?
[17:41] <bookmark> rip it to wav
[17:41] <Guest63936> i meant the cd with an externel cdrom
[17:42] <Slart> Milos_SD: are you sure that's the cpu name? and not part of the kernel name?
[17:42] <r3dux> I don't have any problems ripping anything, why are you mentioning this to me? Just use GRiP and Lame..
[17:42] <Dr_Willis> Guest63936:  not sure what you mean...
[17:42] <Guest63936> as in installing it
[17:42] <Milos_SD> Slart, no it is not kernel name... this is my friends uname -a output on ArchLinux: Linux myhost 2.6.29-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat May 9 12:47:43 UTC 2009 i686 AMD Athlon(TM) XP 2800+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux
[17:43] <Dr_Willis> Guest63936:  you mean making the system boot the external cdrom drive to install xp?
[17:43] <Guest63936> yes
[17:43] <bookmark> i'm sorry meant rohdef
[17:43] <sebsebseb> Guest63936: you have Windows on the computer, and Grub just detects it, or you set Grub up to
[17:43] <Slart> Milos_SD: you could try uname -p.. I just get "unknown" but perhaps it works on some systems
[17:43] <Dr_Willis> Guest63936:  im not sure thats even doable..
[17:43] <bookmark> sorry r3dux i meant rohdef
[17:43] <Milos_SD> Slart, that AMD etc output should be uname -m ... And I get unknown with that :(
[17:43] <Guest63936> ok thnks anyway
[17:43] <bookmark> damn nick completion
[17:43] <Guest63936> now on to my tablet pc problem
[17:43] <r3dux> isn't uname -r the one to get your version and architecture?
[17:43] <Milos_SD> Slart, yes, uname -p...
[17:44] <sebsebseb> Guest63936: you just boot a  CD on the computer, as long a BIOS is set up to boot from CD
[17:44] <Guest63936>  i can get the digitizer working
[17:44] <Milos_SD> Slart, but I also get "unknown" on all my ubuntu systems :(
[17:44] <sebsebseb> Guest63936: as long as BIOS above
[17:44] <sebsebseb> r3dux: only the kernel your using
[17:44] <r3dux> ah... true
[17:44] <erUSUL> Milos_SD: « grep "model name"  /proc/cpuinfo | cut -d: -f2 | uniq  » has the same effect here
[17:45] <roy_hobbs> I'm having trouble with a Hardy Heron.  If I do "$ sudo ethtool -s eth0 wol g", the 'g' doesn't appear to hold after I suspend.
[17:45] <roy_hobbs> Every time I bring it back up, the 'g' is missing.  Needless to say, WOL is not wor king.
[17:45] <sebsebseb> what's WOR?
[17:45] <sebsebseb> WOL
[17:45] <roy_hobbs> wake on lan
[17:45] <r3dux> And I almost understand what the hell that means...
[17:45] <sebsebseb> roy_hobbs: oh ok
[17:46] <kdub> what is the 'legal' name of ubuntu. eg, google is Google, Inc. but i doubt Ubuntu is an 'inc.'
[17:46] <sebsebseb> !Canonical |  kdub
[17:46] <GeorgeJ> Milos_SD: I am not 100% sure about this, but I think the data uname outputs is read from the kernel and is set at compile time.
[17:46] <r3dux> You're suspending an ethernet port with wake on lan, wireless g... only your syntax for ethtool is incorrect?
[17:46] <Slart> kdub: ubuntu is a distro.. the company behind ubuntu si called canonical
[17:46] <GeorgeJ> I'm currently having some connection issues with my pppoe connection. It worked just fine on 8.10 but since I upgraded to 9.04, I've been getting timeouts while browsing for some reason. Anyone with some knowledge about this issue? The pppd version in 8.10 is 2.4.4, it got upgraded to 2.4.5 in 9.04.
[17:46] <kdub> Slart: well, i know that, but i bet that there is a legal incorporation of some sort somewhere
[17:47] <roy_hobbs> r3dux: no i'm not.. this is a wired lan card
[17:47] <kdub> even charities have legal organizational filings
[17:47] <roy_hobbs> r3dux: the 'g' has nothing to do with abgn wireless networks
[17:47] <mh_> hi
[17:47] <r3dux> roy_hobbs, what does it have to do with then?
[17:47] <Slart> kdub: yes... but they have money flowing around, invoices and such.. does your toaster have a legal name? your car? your operating system?
[17:47] <sebsebseb> mh_: hi
[17:47] <gordonjcp> kdub: what's the legal company name of a Ford Escort?
[17:48] <Mooch> Curious of the future versions of Ubuntu will still support dial up?
[17:48] <roy_hobbs> r3dux: 'g' is the flag that represents wake on magic packet in ethtool
[17:48] <Slart> kdub: they have probably registered a trademark and such though
[17:48] <sebsebseb> !dialup | Mooch
[17:48] <Sh3r1ff> gordonjcp: general motors ;)
[17:48] <MalfermitaKodo> re there any recent tutorials on how I can install PCF or BDF fonts? The tutorials I found were really deprecated and did not deal with Xorg yet.
[17:48] <MalfermitaKodo> *Are
[17:48] <dekushrub> Does anyone know how to network a printer?
[17:48] <mh_> if nothing is added in /etc/X11/xorg.conf  is it the right place to change display settings?
[17:48] <gordonjcp> Sh3r1ff: wow, are they still around?
[17:48] <sebsebseb> !cups |  dekushrub
[17:48] <Dr_Willis> dekushrub:  get printer going locally.. use the cups admin tool/page to make it shared to the network.
[17:49] <Slart> kdub: you can get some info here http://www.ubuntu.com/legal
[17:49] <kdub> gordonjcp: i dont understand what you're trying to prove with that q
[17:49] <Mooch> no what I mean is will the future versions of Ubuntu support dial up?
[17:49] <root_> how do i upgrade
[17:49] <sebsebseb> Mooch: I expect so, since the current ones do
[17:49] <Slart> !upgrade | root_
[17:49] <Sh3r1ff> gordonjcp: for what i know, they still do, don't know for how long though ;)
[17:49] <root_> is  ubuntu 9.04
[17:49] <axisys> why does it show two cpus ? http://pastebin.com/d45621736 .. i have only one
[17:49] <sebsebseb> Mooch: dialup support won't be going bye bye any time soon
[17:50] <losher> Mooch: plenty of people still on dialup around the world....
[17:50] <r3dux> GeorgeJ, I had wireless dropouts with stcok 9.04 until I installed the backports with sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-jaunty         discussed on http://r3dux.org/?p=513
[17:50] <gpled> what controls where the pid file for dhcp gets put?
[17:50] <r3dux> -stcok +stock
[17:50] <MalfermitaKodo> axisys: DualCore?
[17:50] <kdub> ok, so its a product from canonical ltd, is its legal standing as a project
[17:50] <axisys> MalfermitaKodo: thats a pentium 4
[17:50] <sebsebseb> kdub: sure they have the legal rights and all that for it
[17:50] <Dr_Willis> !java
[17:51] <GeorgeJ> r3dux: You think it might affect wired connections aswell?
[17:51] <Mooch> sebsebseb: The reason I say it because Intrepid makes a little difficult to get a dialer to dial out
[17:51] <chemikalz> what is a great music player to point my music folder on my windows partition to, rhthm box used to work but now it does not even play mp3's
[17:51] <axisys> MalfermitaKodo: model name    : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
[17:51] <MalfermitaKodo> Sorry, after the 486 I stopped paying attention to every novelty
[17:51] <MalfermitaKodo> So I would not know what features it has
[17:51] <r3dux> GeorgeJ - honestly? I wouldn't really think so... but I couldn't rule it out.
[17:51] <GeorgeJ> Also, this only affects my pppoe connection, if i use a regular connection, there is no issue.
[17:51] <Sh3r1ff> kdub: collecting info to sue canonical? ;)
[17:52] <pollmann> this is great, I haven't used an IRC client for at least a half decade
[17:52] <MalfermitaKodo> chemikalz: mp3blaster?
[17:52] <boss_mc> chemikalz, look at mpd
[17:52] <TX-Dan> noob question! I think it's the "chown" command... but what is the command to change the owner name on all files in a folder? "man" wasn't much help
[17:52] <r3dux> Or 5 years, as it's also known.
[17:52] <losher> axisys: some of the later pentiums had hyperthreading, where they faked looking like two cpus, check your cpu model number
[17:52] <sebsebseb> kdub: ever read the GPL?  most software in Ubuntu will be lisensed under the GPL
[17:52] <chemikalz> thanks which to look at ?
[17:52] <boss_mc> TX-Dan, chown -R
[17:52] <Pici> TX-Dan: chown -r (for recursive)
[17:52] <JessicaParker> hi can anyone assist - i have java not enabled on a site appearing however java -version on terminal prompt seems to work ok - is there any way in which I  need to enable this in mozilla ? thanks
[17:52] <Sh3r1ff> TX-Dan: chown ;)
[17:52] <erUSUL> TX-Dan: chown -R and yes -R comes in the man
[17:52] <Dr_Willis> TX-Dan:  use a pattern and -r for recursive
[17:52] <chemikalz> MalfermitaKodo: does it also play FLAC etc
[17:52] <TX-Dan> thanks guys!
[17:53] <r3dux> I haven't had a cigarette for 600 E-1 minutes, so lets..
[17:53] <MalfermitaKodo> chemikalz: it plays oggs but I haven't tried to feed it FLACs yet
[17:54] <JessicaParker> hi does anyone know how to enable java on mozilla ?
[17:54] <chemikalz> why is rhythm player not working anymore
[17:54] <JessicaParker> i have it on the terminal version
[17:54] <erUSUL> JessicaParker: nstall sun-java6-plugin
[17:54] <mrwes> r3dux, or 5% of a century
[17:54] <mrwes> heh
[17:54] <kdub> Sh3r1ff, sebsebseb i was just curious about it
[17:54] <GeorgeJ> r3dux: I'm considering this to be a problem with the ipv6 module, quite a few people had problems with it, but I understand it is compiled into the kernel, is there any chance I can, maybe, disable it at boot?
[17:54] <chemikalz> what is term cmd to get mpd i get confused by packages
[17:54] <Pici> chemikalz: sudo apt-get install mpd
[17:54] <erUSUL> !ipv6 | GeorgeJ
[17:55] <sebsebseb> chemikalz: Rythombox heh,  I used to use that before, Banshee became good :)
[17:55] <JessicaParker> erUSUL: java -version retunrs java version "1.6.0_10"
[17:55] <JessicaParker>  
[17:55] <chemikalz> thanks pici
[17:55] <chemikalz> seb yes it is very bad
[17:55] <chemikalz> rhythm playetr
[17:55] <GeorgeJ> erUSUL: nothing on my version of ubuntu, wich is 9.04
[17:55] <boss_mc> JessicaParker, go to about:plugins in firefox and make sure there's a java plugin listed
[17:55] <erUSUL> JessicaParker: so ? install the package i just told you? or install ubuntu-restricted-extras that install tghat package and a lot others
[17:55] <tuhoojabotti> trying to install dual-boot with xp, I select the option in the partition manager. -> it tries to use my 500GB drive, but I want to install to my 74GB free on my 160GB drive :S
[17:55] <sebsebseb> chemikalz: well in that case give this one a try :)   Banshee
[17:55] <erUSUL> GeorgeJ: ?
[17:56] <chemikalz> can i sudo get banshee
[17:56] <MalfermitaKodo> tuhoojabotti: have you selected that harddrive when partitioning?
[17:56] <tuhoojabotti> MalfermitaKodo: how is the question
[17:56] <JessicaParker> boss_mc: it is there JAVE (TM) plug-in 1.6.0 - i recently did an update of lots of components and now things dont work
[17:56] <chemikalz> yes i can
[17:56] <r3dux> tuhoojabotti, install to hdb not hda
[17:56] <sebsebseb> chemikalz: of course   sudo apt-get install Banshee    I  assume your on 9.04 or 8.10    8.04 probably still has an old rubbish version
[17:56] <GeorgeJ> erUSUL: the page the bot just directed me to has no instructions on how to disable ipv6 on 9.04
[17:56] <chemikalz> did it, im on 9.04
[17:57] <tuhoojabotti> it only allows me to select drive when use whole drive is selected?
[17:57] <MalfermitaKodo> tuhoojabotti: you can at some point select which harddrive to use for Ubuntu... afaik
[17:57] <JessicaParker> boss_mc: these problems seem to be similar to windows problems...........I moved onto Linux as I assumed it was more stable.......
[17:57] <tuhoojabotti> it's weird
[17:57] <erUSUL> GeorgeJ: it is the same as in any other version... blacklist the ipv6 module
[17:57] <chemikalz> rythm box ran fine in hardy heron
[17:57] <pollmann> question for you all, I'm the tech guy at a school.  Really new to linux.  I purchased 4 Asus eee PC 4G.  Hated the native OS so I installed Ubuntu and followed the instructions to get the Kernel that works best with the eee pc's.  I'd love to be able to use our server (2003) to allow the students to login with their windows username.  I discovered the activedirectoryhowto on the wiki. ...
[17:57] <pollmann> ...Unfortunately it states that I need ubuntu server to connect to AD.  Is there a way that I can connect to AD with Ubuntu Desktop, or is there an easy way to configure the server to have a x windows environment?
[17:57] <sebsebseb> chemikalz: I was talking about Banshee
[17:57] <erUSUL> JessicaParker: again just « sudo aptitude install sun-java6-plugin »
[17:57] <sebsebseb> chemikalz: anyway you can play videos as well with Banshee
[17:57] <chemikalz> seb yes i know i dl'ed it
[17:57] <chemikalz> banshee
[17:57] <chemikalz> thanks im going to try it now
[17:57] <tuhoojabotti> when I tried to install on free space, it didn't create the loader but loads xp everytime
[17:58] <GeorgeJ> erUSUL: Ah, i guess there's no problem in trying but does it work with modules compiled into the kernel? Several people reported that mehtod as not working.
[17:58] <pollmann> I've currently got server installed on my test eee box, but before I blow away another, I'd like to ask those that know more than I.
[17:58] <sebsebseb> erUSUL: I think it's better to give people commands without that weird character icon to show where the command is
[17:58] <sebsebseb> erUSUL: ,because people can get confussed and put in the weird character
[17:58] <mrwes> Rhthymbox plays fine in Jaunty
[17:58] <unnamedplayer_> Okie....ANYBODY ABLE TO GIVE A HAND?
[17:58] <r3dux> tuhoojabotti, you should be able to select any drive, and create any partitions you want. If you already have partitions, make sure it's okay to blank them to install linux, and again hdb0 will be the first partition on your second drive, hdb1 will be the 2nd partition on your 2nd drive etc
[17:58] <erUSUL> sebsebseb: well i use a weird caracter to avoid people putting the carater on comman line
[17:58] <jefinc> I am having troubles playing 2 audio streams at the same time; i.e.: firefox and rhythm, I have installed alsa-oss
[17:59] <chemikalz> importing my music collection into banshee currently
[17:59] <JessicaParker> erUSUL: am doing it closed down mozilla
[17:59] <billw> new to linux-trying to load my zune player but amrock wont do anything with it
[17:59] <sebsebseb> erUSUL: well some might just copy  the command including the character, and then it won't work
[17:59] <JessicaParker> erUSUL: ok done shall I open Mozilla again ?
[17:59] <erUSUL> sebsebseb: if i use "" most people will include it. i've been her for years helping people and know what i'm talking about
[17:59] <erUSUL> JessicaParker: yes; restart firefox
[17:59] <sebsebseb> erUSUL: ah ok, well I am just saying :)
[17:59] <mrwes> erUSUL, same with telling them to use yourusername :)
[17:59] <unnamedplayer_> I need help reverting back to open source graphics drivers
[18:00] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, be more specific
[18:00] <r3dux> Linux is ready for the desktop. This year. If only....
[18:00] <erUSUL> sebsebseb: no problem... i make sure i type an space between « and the command so people can confortably c&p...
[18:00] <chemikalz> hmm something happend to my music drivers
[18:00] <sebsebseb> r3dux: it is ready for average non technical computer users, as long as they have someone that knows it, helping them
[18:00] <chemikalz> sound i mean
[18:00] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, I installed proprietary drivers that don't work for my hardware.
[18:00] <lazermouse> hi there
[18:00] <boss_mc> which ones?
[18:00] <mh_> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade     - doesn't do anything. Seems that I need to change the sources.list ?  (i'm on hardy)
[18:00] <tuhoojabotti> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/images/installingjaunty09.png -> when I choose intalls them by side, it selects my 500GB drive and I can't find a way to change it to use 160GB one which has 74GB unpartitied space.
[18:00] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, which ones?
[18:00] <r3dux> sebastien, there's the problem....
[18:01] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, ATI. I'm currently runing Ubuntu off the liveCD
[18:01] <JessicaParker> erUSUL: still problem with the site ? "pleasease enable JavaScript in order to log in."
[18:01] <Dr_Willis> Java is not javascript...
[18:01] <erUSUL> JessicaParker: JavaScript it is not the same as java
[18:01] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, I can mount my harddrive.
[18:01] <r3dux> I love linux. I just can't get my gf to use it, because she just wants things to work, and windows mostly does.
[18:01] <sebsebseb> r3dux: and non technical users that are wanting to learn,  could install it :)  and do some stuff with it
[18:01] <erUSUL> JessicaParker: check firefox settings
[18:01] <lazermouse> how do i install alice ( www.alice.org ) on ubuntu 8.10
[18:01] <GeorgeJ> r3dux: blame the hardware manufacturers...
[18:01] <billw> can someone help me connect my zune to ubuntu 8.10?
[18:01] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, if you installed them in the livecd, then rebooting will fix it
[18:01] <ltcabral> what command can i use to download a file from a CVS? i have the repository, the directory and the file name
[18:01] <sebsebseb> r3dux: at the end of the day installing Ubuntu is way easier than installing  Windows XP
[18:01] <Dr_Willis> r3dux:  untill they dont work...  then its ... well.. i wont start..
[18:01] <JessicaParker> erUSUL: im clearing all the cookies in firefox.........this should not happen when items are updated.
[18:01] <lazermouse> i mean 9.04
[18:01] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, or are you using it repair another installation?
[18:02] <erUSUL> JessicaParker: Edit > Preferences > Content
[18:02] <r3dux> We need open source hardware. GOOD open source hardware.
[18:02] <erUSUL> JessicaParker: there you can enable JavaScript if you disabled it by mistake
[18:02] <GeorgeJ> mm
[18:02] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, When I booted it after installation of the proprietary driver, I had black screen. I rebooted with liveCD and all was fine.
[18:02] <JessicaParker> erUSUL: checked - enable javascript ticked , enable java ticked
[18:02] <boss_mc> ah I see, are you on that computer now?
[18:03] <erUSUL> JessicaParker: and still you get the error ?
[18:03] <unnamedplayer_> I am.
[18:03] <GeorgeJ> r3dux: In a world ruled by big corporations, there will be no such things. Its a conspiracy, you see..
[18:03] <sebsebseb> r3dux: well  there is some for servers, but desktops nah
[18:03] <JessicaParker> erUSUL: yes - is there any known sites I can check  - it may be the site having problems ?
[18:03] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, yeah
[18:03] <boss_mc> hmmm, easiest way is to boot into recovery mode (won't load the drivers, drops to a shell) then change your xorg.conf to not have Driver "fglrx" in it
[18:04] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, ^
[18:04] <r3dux> It'll happen - we're on the right track and on our way.
[18:04] <erUSUL> JessicaParker: gmail ? pretty much every site on internet nowadays uses JavaScript
[18:04] <r3dux> Microsoft will fold
[18:04] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, And how do I go about doing that?
[18:04] <r3dux> In time.
[18:04] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, actually, you can do it from the liveCD if you can mount the HD
[18:04] <billw> i am having issues with my zune, i have ubuntu 8.10 and the zune does not show in amarok ... is there a way to fix this ?
[18:04] <GeorgeJ> Yeah, and Apple will start selling more.
[18:04] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, HD mounted...now what?
[18:04] <GeorgeJ> Wich gets us exactly back where we started.
[18:05] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, navigate to /etc/X11/ on that drive
[18:05] <sebsebseb> GeorgeJ and r3dux     well  Canoncial is a company and they are behind Ubuntu, but if they were to have most of the market, they probably woudn't screw us over like Microsoft,  because Canoncail are an opensource and freesoftware company.   oh and those that think  it would be better if Apple had most of the market, probably not quite
[18:05] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, backup the xorg.conf there (sudo cp xorg.conf xorg.conf.bak)
[18:05] <r3dux> Actually, maybe MS will never fold, but just keep people in the Open Source community keeping pace - which might not be a bad thing
[18:05] <TX-Dan> ok, I'm confused... would the syntax be "chown -R user /dir" ...?
[18:05] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, directory open
[18:05] <erUSUL> TX-Dan: tes
[18:06] <erUSUL> TX-Dan: yes
[18:06] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, backed up xorg.conf?
[18:06] <lazermouse> people have frozen in #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:06] <TX-Dan> chown: cannot access `/dir': No such file or directory
[18:06] <sebsebseb> lazermouse: r3dux should be going there really
[18:06] <GeorgeJ> The problem with opensource is the financial part. The part wich motivates most people nowadays. It's not completely dead but not as rich as closed source software makers.
[18:06] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, would it be "xorg.conf.20090508151249"?
[18:07] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, should be one called just xorg.conf
[18:07] <r3dux> Why don't hardware manufacturers talk to linux people? They talk to Microsoft and make everything work out of the box? What am I missing so they don't talk to Sun or Novell or Cannonical?
[18:07] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, no numbers/letters after
[18:07] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, there is that as well
[18:07] <sebsebseb> !ot | r3dux
[18:07] <r3dux> Offtopic, eh?
[18:07] <r3dux> Oh well.
[18:07] <r3dux> Night al.
[18:07] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, that's the one that it's using, so back it up (although, as it doesn't work at the moment... not much point)
[18:07] <sebsebseb> r3dux: Hardare Manufactures have been locked into Microsoft since the 90's
[18:07] <r3dux> Night "all".
[18:07] <lazermouse> sebsebseb: :D Usually there would be a bit of banter in there allright
[18:08] <TX-Dan> erUSUL, getting "chown: cannot access `/dir': No such file or directory" Any ideas?
[18:08] <GeorgeJ> r3dux: Its the market
[18:08] <sebsebseb> r3dux: just like most computer users have
[18:08] <boss_mc> night r3dux
[18:08] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, so open it, save it under a different name?
[18:08] <r3dux> nn - thanks for your time, and your patience.
[18:08] <GeorgeJ> r3dux: The ratio of linux users / windows users tends to window's favor
[18:08] <boss_mc> are you using the terminal or the file manager (you should be in the terminal)
[18:08] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, are you using the terminal or the file manager (you should be in the terminal)
[18:08] <chemfun>  lets try this again
[18:08] <sebsebseb> GeorgeJ: he is gone now, so I guess we can get things more on topic here again
[18:09] <Damo86> hey
[18:09] <Damo86> where can i get irc op help
[18:09] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, I'm in file manager, but I don't know how to navigate to that drive in terminal
[18:09] <chemfun> question for you all, I'm the tech guy at a school.  Really new to linux.  I purchased 4 Asus eee PC 4G.  Hated the native OS so I installed Ubuntu and followed the instructions to get the Kernel that works best with the eee pc's.  I'd love to be able to use our server (2003) to allow the students to login with their windows username.  I discovered the activedirectoryhowto on the wiki. ...
[18:09] <chemfun> ...Unfortunately it states that I need ubuntu server to connect to AD.  Is there a way that I can connect to AD with Ubuntu Desktop, or is there an easy way to configure the server to have a x windows environment?
[18:09] <chemfun> I've currently got server installed on my test eee box, but before I blow away another, I'd like to ask those that know more than I.
[18:09] <sebsebseb> Damo86: for what?
[18:09] <Damo86> nickname isue
[18:09] <sebsebseb> Dam0: #freenode
[18:09] <Dam0> nickserv identify fuzzyhall21
[18:10] <sebsebseb> join the channel I just mentioned
[18:10] <System404> hey guys amarok wont play any of my music
[18:10] <joaopinto> chemfun, ubuntu server is not a specific version, is just a regular minimal ubuntu, with a set of server packages on the cd
[18:10] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, look at the top of the filemanager, that should tell you where it's mounted
[18:10] <System404> rythmbox works fine but i wanted to use amarok for its equaliser feature but it wont play anything why is this
[18:11] <joaopinto> chemfun, whatever you need froom "ubuntu server" is available the repositories
[18:11] <sebsebseb> System404: amarok I really don't get why it's so popular.   Rythombox is ok, and Banshee :)  as of  8.10     8.04 probably still has old rubbish version
[18:11] <sebsebseb> System404: try #kubuntu
[18:11] <leoncino240> salve
[18:11] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, It says 248.7 GB Media, etc x11
[18:11] <chemfun> that's VERY helpful
[18:11] <System404> i do like rythmbox sebsebseb but it has no equaliser i wanted amarok for its equaliser feature
[18:12] <boss_mc> ok, open a terminal and type cd /media and press enter
[18:12] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, ok, open a terminal and type cd /media and press enter
[18:12] <sebsebseb> System404: well Banshee has an  equaliser :)
[18:12] <alberto2000> iphone question: anyone knows how to play mp3s (which i transfered to iphone via ssh) with standard ipod application?
[18:12] <chemfun> Do you know of a wiki to turn the desktop version into a GUI that will be able to talk to my server 2003 AD?
[18:12] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, bash: cd: media: No such file or directory
[18:12] <System404> banshee ill try giving that a go cheers sebsebseb
[18:12] <sebsebseb> System404: no problem
[18:12] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, cd /media
[18:12] <leoncino240> ciaoo
[18:12] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, the slash is important
[18:12] <sebsebseb> System404: Amarok and Rythombox  no thanks,  Banshee :)
[18:13] <simplexio> System404: you can define systemwide equalizer with alsa but it isnt that easy
[18:13] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, kk, worked that time
[18:13] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, now ls should give you a list of the mounted drives
[18:13] <System404> downloading banshee now
[18:13] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, that's LS (but lower case)
[18:13] <sebsebseb> System404: what's an equalizer anyway, and I just  saw the option in menu in Banshee before I said it had one
[18:13]  * kdub 's gsoc project is a ffmpeg equalizer project
[18:13] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, it says disk
[18:13] <kdub> so should trickle down to rhythmbox eventually
[18:13] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, ok, cd disc/etc/X11
[18:13] <System404> just control over base and treble and such fings
[18:14] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, ok, cd disk/etc/X11
[18:14] <System404> bass*
[18:14] <alberto2000> anyone knows about iphone and ubuntu??
[18:14] <sebsebseb> System404: the music should sound a bit differnet with that feature on?
[18:14] <System404> yeah thats the idea
[18:14] <System404> give it more treble or more base to better suite the song
[18:14] <sebsebseb> System404: yeah I think I used to do that sometimes on my old stereo, before the CD player broke or whatever
[18:14] <sebsebseb> alberto2000: not much, but you won't get much luck with an Iphone and Ubuntu
[18:14] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, kk
[18:15] <sebsebseb> alberto2000: well you probably got to configure it
[18:15] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, ls will give you all the files in the folder
[18:15] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, kk
[18:15] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, back up the xorg.conf (sudo cp xorg.conf xorg.conf.bak)
[18:15] <WinterWeaver> why does evolution sometimes show there is 1 unread email in my inbox, but there is absolutely none >.<
[18:15] <pappunaachnahisa> how do i see which process is using my bandwidth?
[18:16] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, kk.
[18:16] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, done
[18:16] <sebsebseb> System404: hope you like Banshee :)
[18:16] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, now gksudo gedit xorg.conf
[18:16] <g0wda> how do i see which process is using my bandwidth?
[18:16] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, will open it in a text editor
[18:17] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, opened
[18:17] <System404> sebsebseb i told banshee where my media was stored but it aint coming up
[18:17] <sebsebseb> System404: yeah import it in from the folder
[18:17] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, now somewhere in there should be the line Driver "fglrx" (in the device section)
[18:17] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, remove it
[18:18] <System404> cancel no i told it in preferances where my library was then hit rescan library and bam my music from my ntfs windows partition is now accesable walla
[18:18] <sebsebseb> System404: ok good, and humm music on a Windows partition why?
[18:18] <GeorgeJ> I'm currently having some connection issues with my pppoe connection. It worked just fine on 8.10 but since I upgraded to 9.04, I've been getting timeouts while browsing for some reason. Anyone with some knowledge about this issue? The pppd version in 8.10 is 2.4.4, it got upgraded to 2.4.5 in 9.04.
[18:18] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, no mention of fglrx in it
[18:18] <Dam086> uptime[1w 1d 6h 59m 41s]
[18:18] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, which method did you use to install the drivers?
[18:18] <System404> because windows is my main os im new to linux so just playing around with it for now all my media is stored on my windows partition
[18:19] <whatvn> Dam086: your lappy :-p
[18:19] <acp_> hi I just installed 9.04 during the installation I selected automatically log me in,now that i have installed it how can set it up to ask me a password to log in? im using 9.04 remix
[18:19] <Scunizi> is there a channel for the netbook remix?
[18:19] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, hold one second. Phone
 how do u know?
[18:19] <whatvn> Dam086: I guess :-)
[18:19] <sebsebseb> System404: ah ok
[18:19] <juxbox> does ubuntu support ATI cards out of the box?
[18:19] <Dam086> lol
[18:19] <Scunizi> juxbox: most
[18:20] <Dam086> os[Linux 2.6.28-11-generic i686] distro[Ubuntu "jaunty" 9.04] cpu[2 x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU         T5500  @ 1.66GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1000MHz] mem[Physical: 2.0GB, 37.1% free] disk[Total: 105.5GB, 90.9% free] video[nVidia Corporation GeForce Go 7900 GS] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA Intel]
[18:20] <boss_mc> juxbox, only later cards will have full 3D support
[18:20] <juxbox> Scunizi: what about kubuntu?
[18:20] <boss_mc> juxbox, smae
[18:20] <Scunizi> juxbox: same
[18:20] <boss_mc> *same
[18:20] <sebsebseb> juxbox: Kubuntu is  just  Ubuntu, but with KDE instead of Gnome
[18:20] <joaopinto> juxbox, yes, but not with the proprietary driver, that requires an user action
[18:20] <Scunizi> juxbox: it has to do with ati drivers not ubuntu or kubuntu
[18:20] <juxbox> ScarEye: well 3 days ago i got kubuntu, and it couldn't support my ati card then x crashed
[18:21] <Vovk> Anyone know which servers/channels I can go to in order to discuss Source based linux distros?
[18:21] <whatvn> juxbox: check if driver installed correctly
[18:21] <joaopinto> Vovk, #linux ?
[18:21] <sebsebseb> Vovk: that's  ##linux  two ##
[18:21] <aliases112> Hello room.
[18:21] <Dam086> Vovk>: #linuxx
[18:21] <joaopinto> juxbox, have you tried to install the restricted driver?
[18:22] <juxbox> whatvn: how can i make sure it's installed properly?
[18:22] <acp_> Scunizi: may be you could help me, how can I configure my ubuntu remix to ask for password first time login?
[18:22] <whatvn> juxbox: lspci , see if your card name appears
[18:22] <mh_> if nothing is added in /etc/X11/xorg.conf  is it the right place to change display settings?
[18:23] <aliases112> Is there a antivirus solution of choice for jaunty?
[18:23] <whatvn> aliases112: clamav
[18:23] <sebsebseb> !virus | aliases112
[18:24] <linduxed> is there a page that describes what the "ls -l" columns mean?
[18:24] <aliases112> thanks whatvn, ubottu!
[18:24] <mh_> aliases112, install noscript for firefox, thats enough
[18:24] <sebsebseb> !thanks | aliases112
[18:24] <mrwes> linduxed, man ls?
[18:24] <sebsebseb> aliases112: I triggered the bot for that page
[18:24] <linduxed> mrwes: it doesnt say a thing
[18:24] <olmari> Anyone able to help me with PXE and ubuntu live?
[18:25] <sebsebseb> aliases112: Linux virus scanners basically only scan for Windows viruses, and  a Linux distro can't get infected by a Windows virus
[18:25] <mrwes> linduxed, did ya google it?
[18:25] <mh_> olmari, you have to ask your question, not for help
[18:25] <whatvn> sebsebseb: but virus written for both, or just for Linux
[18:26] <linduxed> mrwes: yeah, cant find anything sensible
[18:26] <olmari> I have tried to get an server of mine to be PXE boot, and I am succeeded to some point... Jaunty live starts to boos up, but jams into "eth0:link up"
[18:26] <olmari> boot*
[18:26] <sebsebseb> whatvn: only a few viruses in the past have been written for Linux distros, but they stayed in the lab,  there may have been one that went wild years ago, but that won't infect modern distros
[18:26] <sebsebseb> whatvn: also to get a virus installed, you got to install it yourself
[18:26] <olmari> I have followed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDNetboot
[18:26] <sebsebseb> whatvn: or have your computer broken in to, but ther aren't really any viruses as has already been said
[18:27] <turt3l> hello all
[18:27] <Fly-rainning> :)
[18:27] <whatvn> sebsebseb: no virus found != no virus
[18:27] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, back
[18:28] <sebsebseb> whatvn: remind m what != means?
[18:28] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, I used the ati 9.5 from the d/l page and thought I make driver packages specific to my distro
[18:28] <whatvn> sebsebseb: I meant *not mean* :-p
[18:28] <mrwes> linduxed, http://www.computerhope.com/unix/uls.htm << read that
[18:28] <sebsebseb> whatvn: you don't need to worry about viruses,  read that link the bot gave,  and you should have a firewall whatever OS your on,   and you should be a bit more concerned about running bad commands when using a Linux distro
[18:28] <olmari> So the question is that what am I doing wrong, I think...
[18:28] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, unfortunately my hardware is too old for that
[18:29] <sebsebseb> whatvn: commands that could delete your system,   sadly sometimes there are such people who think it is funny to give out such commands here, but the ops tend to pick up on that and boot them
[18:29] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, did you use http://wiki.cchtml.com?
[18:29] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, ummm....no.
[18:29] <linduxed> mrwes: thx a heap
[18:30] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, so you ran the program, hit create distribution specific packages and then installed them all?
[18:30] <mrwes> linduxed, sure -- pretty good explanation on ls
[18:30] <whatvn> sebsebseb: I'm not a Linux expert, but I have been using Linux for 4 years. i think I know what to do
[18:30] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, yeah exactly
[18:30] <sebsebseb> whatvn: why were you asking about antivirus then?
[18:30] <boss_mc> and you didn't edit your xorg.conf?
[18:30] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, and you didn't edit your xorg.conf?
[18:30] <whatvn> sebsebseb: I didn't ask
[18:31] <mrwes> whatvn, isn't everyone an expert after two years?
[18:31] <mrwes> heh
[18:31] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, as far as I know no.
[18:31] <GeorgeJ> sebastien: Are you implying that linux is not affected by viruses?
[18:31] <sebsebseb> whatvn: ah ha that was the other guy
[18:31] <boss_mc> GeorgeJ, pretty much
[18:31] <kdub> hostile channel today...
[18:31] <sebsebseb> aliases112: read the stuff above that I said to whatvn
[18:32] <mattgyver> Where are alias stored at?
[18:32] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, can you pastebin me you xorg.conf please?
[18:32] <shiznebit> viruses, linux, where ?
[18:32] <boss_mc> !pastebin | unnamedplayer_
[18:32] <whatvn> sebsebseb: but i keep my idea we do need antivirus, that why people keep writing av for Linux
[18:32] <mattgyver> !alias
[18:32] <olmari> So... as said live jaunty starts to boot up trough network, vmlinuz and initrd.gz loads fine... then there comes that basic linux initialisation text for awhile, until there reads "eth0: link up" and it sits there forever
[18:32] <kdub> mattgyver: ~/.bashrc are the aliases ran upon starting a terminal. entering any alias command will affect that terminal immediately
[18:32] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, where do I enter that command?
[18:32] <GeorgeJ> Well, you are pretty wrong, the only reason other systems, like Windows for example, have more viruses is because it has more users, wich makes it more suitable for a virus target.
[18:32] <sebsebseb> GeorgeJ: a virus could be written for a Linux distro, but   the user would have to install it themselves and know what they are doing, or  get there computer broken in to, which again is not so likely when running a Linux distro,  even if no firewall
[18:33] <mattgyver> thank you kdub
[18:33] <olmari> I don't know what I have done wrong :-/
[18:33] <GeorgeJ> sebastien: Not realy
[18:33] <sebsebseb> whatvn: antivuris software for Linux that scans for Windows viruses that don't infect Linux distro yeah
[18:33]  * shiznebit remembers the tutroial to install a virus
[18:33] <sebsebseb> !virus
[18:33] <hatter243> Is it possible to boot into single user mode (root shell) without this "recovery menu" thing? It doesn't appear to like my keyboard and fills the screen with "^[[B"
[18:33] <whatvn> GeorgeJ: who?
[18:34] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, go to paste.ubuntu.com and upload your xorg.conf then give me the URL you are given on the next page
[18:34] <mattgyver> kdub, can you configure .bashrc to be stored elsewhere, IE on a SDcard USB drive and loaded from there?
[18:34] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, kk one sec
[18:34] <sebsebseb> shiznebit: there was a script someone could make or whatever that would delete contents of home,  but that dosan't really count as a virus
[18:34] <GeorgeJ> sebastien: Same goes for other OSs, linux can be broken into aswell remotely, also the users are the faulty components in getting viruses, not the OS
[18:34] <whatvn> sebsebseb: I don't talk with a bot, you don't want to understand what i said
[18:34] <GeorgeJ> Its basicaly a matter of targeting
[18:34] <kdub> mattgyver: the command 'source /path/to/new/bashrc' will do the same thing
[18:35] <whatvn> GeorgeJ: right!
[18:35] <chemikalz> i have my alsa mixer selected and i cant hear any music
[18:35] <chemikalz> iv tried 2 players now
[18:35] <kdub> you can also configure your terminal program probably
[18:35] <shiznebit> sebsebseb: http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/evilmalware.html
[18:35] <shiznebit> :D
[18:35] <Fexs> Hi 1517 Users =D
[18:35] <shiznebit> nobody do that please
[18:36] <sebsebseb> GeorgeJ: targetting and Windows never bing designed to be properly secure in the first place
[18:36] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, http://paste.ubuntu.com/178129/
[18:36] <chemikalz> sebsebseb: can you help me with banshee the program you suggested? I have alsa mixer selected, this is a new problem, i was listening to music in RB yesterday
[18:36] <sebsebseb> most Linux distros have been designed to be pretty secure from the begining,  with Windows, security was a bolt on
[18:36] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, wow, short, can you do the same with /var/log/Xorg.0.log please?
[18:36] <GeorgeJ> I dont understand why people have this conception about viruses, there is no OS that is immune to malware. Nor there will ever be as long as there are users operating them. And, yes, i do agree, holes in security are fixed fasters on open source OSes, but that doesn't mean there were never there, also that requires the user to upgrade, in most cases.
[18:36] <GeorgeJ> sebastien: There are many fields to security.
[18:37] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, It's not in that directory
[18:37] <chemikalz> i have penetration test software, but really all u need on linux is firewall, and maybe av
[18:37] <kdub> furthermore, there's more under-the-hood transparency that lets a good administrator see what programs are doing in lunx
[18:37] <zek> I am trying to install stage.  i am building from source using cmake  .   I get a ton of errors during the make part of the build.  some of the errors are:   libstage.so.3.0.1: undefined reference to `Fl_Button::Fl_Button(int, int, int, int, char const*)'
[18:37] <zek> libstage.so.3.0.1: undefined reference to `Fl_File_Chooser::Fl_File_Chooser(char const*, char const*, int, char const*)'
[18:37] <zek> libstage.so.3.0.1: undefined reference to `Fl_Window::resize(int, int, int, int)'
[18:37] <zek> libstage.so.3.0.1: undefined reference to `fl_choice(char const*, char const*, char const*, char const*, ...)'
[18:37] <kdub> s/lunx/linux
[18:37] <FloodBot1> zek: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:37] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, wait different directory
[18:37] <zek> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[18:37] <zek> make[2]: *** [libstage/stage] Error 1
[18:37] <sebsebseb> GeorgeJ: I never said that any OS was 100% immune from malware
[18:37] <boss_mc> zek you need libfltk1.0-dev
[18:37] <whatvn> sebsebseb: av scan for not only virus, you know?
[18:38] <sebsebseb> whatvn: Linux spyware ha ha I doubt it
[18:38] <martin____> i have problems with my soundblaster audigy SE in kubuntu 9.04
[18:38] <alakoo> I can't get my microphone working argh
[18:38] <martin____> the drivers are not loaded
[18:38] <kdub> zek: it looks to me like you may be building against an out-of-date object
[18:38] <shiznebit> the first to do anything is to find exploits
[18:38] <grawity> sebsebseb: Unix spyware _does_ exist. (Though it's really rare.)
[18:38] <whatvn> sebsebseb: you think we only have virus and spyware :-p
[18:38] <GeorgeJ> I know this for sure, windows has better memory management, it takes a lot more effort to read the ram asigned to an application than with other OSs, i know this applies to Macs, but i've no clues if this also aplies to modern linux kernels aswell
[18:38] <zek> boss_mc: i just build fltk,  so i need the dev package?  sorry about the flood thing  didnt mean to do that
[18:38] <martin____> seems that some kernel update fked up something
[18:38] <sebsebseb> whatvn: of course not, I know about rootkits
[18:38] <sebsebseb> whatvn: and backdoors
[18:39] <martin____> module is CA0160
[18:39] <shiznebit> the thing is the devs are so aware that even if someone finds any exploit, they wont have much time to do anything
[18:39] <tank-man> lol
[18:39] <kdub> GeorgeJ: is that an anecdotal claim?
[18:39] <sebsebseb> I think all this virus stuff is
[18:39] <sebsebseb> !ot
[18:39] <boss_mc> zek, sorry, I wasn't thinking, you need to add a dependency of the library to the cmake (I don't know how though :-:))
[18:39] <zek> kdub: what does that mean?  i got the verson the install guide says to get
[18:39] <GeorgeJ> Yeah thats the only thing, its rare, because it has no point. Why target an OS with users that are pretty handy with computers and can avoid geting infected easily when you got a LOT more Windows users?
[18:39] <whatvn> sebsebseb: tell me why they keep writing av just to scan for windows virus?
[18:39] <martin____> FATAL: Module CA0160 not found.
[18:39] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, http://paste.ubuntu.com/178132/
[18:40] <sebsebseb> GeorgeJ: most Windows users run it with an admin account all the time, that's the main reason there is such much malware written for it
[18:40] <tank-man> "I know this for sure" how do you know this for sure if you don't have the windows source to examine
[18:40] <chimera4u> what is the python development package called in Ubuntu?
[18:40] <martin____> oh, sry FATAL: Module CA0106 not found
[18:40] <ManDay> Hi there guys. I want a program (xterm / gnome-terminal) to run upon login into x. is  it enought to put the according command "gnome-terminal" into the .bashrc ?
[18:40] <zek> How do i add a dependency of the library  to cmake?
[18:40] <kdub> zek: what's happening is the linker can't find the symbol the source references. this can mean its out of date, or not there at all
[18:40] <raylu> whatvn: it scans for all kinds of virii... it just so happens that those make up the great majority of them
[18:40] <Pici> chimera4u: python-dev
[18:40] <zek> kdub:  how should i fix that?
[18:40] <GeorgeJ> There are, and will always be, even if minuscule, bugs that can exploited, even in linux software, gateways for viruses and worms to get in, and you don't need any user interaction for them to settle in
[18:40] <juxbox> so anybody here uses ATI cards?
[18:41] <chimera4u> Pici: that worked thanks
[18:41] <whatvn> raylu: you're absolutely right
[18:41] <sebsebseb> !ot | malwarediscussion
[18:41] <Tasbuntu> Hello, I need help with my Sound configuration xD; I'm running Jaunty on a Macbook 5,1, and recently the  community documentation introduced an excerpt on how to enable full stereo sound(before, only the right speaker worked) However, in following those instructions I seem to have killed all my sound! And not just in Ubuntu either, it also happens when I boot up my computer into rEFIt
[18:41] <iceroot> ManDay: try gnome-terinal -e "your command"
[18:41] <unnamedplayer_> juxbox, Lose the ATI It's causing me nothing but probs right now
[18:41] <boss_mc> juxbox, I used to until ATI dropped support for my card...
[18:41] <martin____> btw, can i completely remove ubuntu kernels?
[18:41] <kdub> zek: 'do linking correctly' :)
[18:41] <martin____> all of them?
[18:41] <iceroot> ManDay: dnt know if it is working with bashrc
[18:41] <Fexs> Fexs - Any1 got a Spread Ubutun Button for website?
[18:41] <iceroot> Fexs: ubuntu.com
[18:41] <kdub> martin____: yes, as long as you drop another linux kernel in
[18:41] <ManDay> i know iceroot. i need to know where to put it because im not sure whether putting it into bashrc will run it proplery
[18:41] <ManDay> but ill try
[18:41] <ManDay> thanks
[18:42] <shiznebit> unnamedplayer_: do you have a R500 ATI card or less ?
[18:42] <zek> kdub: what?
[18:42] <juxbox> well mine is brand new ATI
[18:42] <martin____> kdub: k, ty, ill build one myself, the genkernel breaks too often (how i hate taht)
[18:42] <whatvn> sebsebseb: you better talking with bot than with people, i think
[18:42] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, It seems that X is using the open source Radeon driver (as you want it to...)
[18:42] <unnamedplayer_> shiznebit, it's older I know that much
[18:42] <zek> the results from cmake i think shows all the libraries are found
[18:42] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, so I'm not sure what is causing a black screen
[18:42] <shiznebit> all R500 and less cards are unsupported by the Radeon Driver
[18:42] <kdub> zek: without the exact setup you have, i cant really help you much further
[18:43] <sebsebseb> whatvn: malware on Linux discussion,  I have been part of them, quite a few times
[18:43] <Fexs> Ty iceroot,i couldnt find any there, ill make a custom =/
[18:43] <sebsebseb> whatvn: and it's the kind of thing I expect newbies to be going on about loads, not more experienced users
[18:43] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, can I See what files were on my desktop?
[18:43] <kdub> martin____: i have a vanilla kernel to develop with, but i keep the ubuntu kernel on my machine and use that 85% of the time
[18:43] <whatvn> sebsebseb: up to you!
[18:43] <sebsebseb> whatvn: ,because they are worried that they will get a virus or whatever,  when us more experienced users know, that's pretty unlikely at this time with any Linux distro
[18:43] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, they'll be on the mounter HD under /home/<yourname>/Desktop
[18:44] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, kk I'll show you what package names I installed
[18:44] <zek> does anyone know how to make sure the right libraries are linked?
[18:44] <boss_mc> ldd binaryname
[18:44] <Fzang> Hi there. Does anyone know how to or have tried to rename the "filesystem" partition?
[18:44] <ManDay> ermm stupid question whats the ubuntu icon in front of a package name indicating in synaptic??
[18:44] <martin____> kdub: btw, do you know a cmd which spits out all the modules which can be loaded?
[18:44] <Fzang> I'd imagine it's just a nickname
[18:45] <ztechnokid> sup
[18:45] <whatvn> sebsebseb: soon or later, we all need antivirus for Linux. so why not tell our users install av now? huh?
[18:45] <ianto> ManDay: That it is a supported app by Canonical
[18:45] <ManDay> ah great thanks
[18:45] <shiznebit> whatvn: your spaming
[18:45] <sebsebseb> whatvn: ,because those av programs are pretty pointless at the moment, because they only/mainly  scan for  Windows viruses
[18:45] <Pici> !offtopic | whatvn
[18:45] <kdub> martin____: they exist in /lib/modules and end in ko. 'find /lib/modules | grep ko$'
[18:45] <martin____> kdub: thanks
[18:46] <sebsebseb> Pici: thank you :)
[18:46] <kn100> plus linux's user/root system makes getting a virus that does any damage HARD
[18:46] <whatvn> shiznebit: that is what you think. I stop now, I said we need av for linux and I'm spaming? :-p.
[18:46] <bin1010> hey guys, I have to nic cards connected to the internet.  If one goes down I just want it to failover to the other.  Right now if the first one is not up or just can't get to that part of the internet...whatever....i currently have to wait a period of time before it failovers to the other....Is there a way to speed this up?
[18:46] <whatvn> bye all!
[18:47] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, "fglrx-amdcccle_8.612-)unbuntu1_i386.deb", "fglrx-kernel-source_8.162-0ubntu1_i386.deb", "fglrx-modaliases_8.612-0ubuntu1_i396.deb", "libamdxvba1_8.612-0ubuntu1_i386.deb" and "xorg-driver-fglrx_8.612-0ubuntu1_i386.deb"
[18:47] <Fexs> Bye Wahtvn
[18:47] <sebsebseb> good the  malware discussion can end now :)
[18:47] <wiijii> Any suggestions for removing 'Unsupported Hardware' watermark with fglrx drivers?
[18:47] <zek> libstage.so.3.0.1: undefined reference to `Fl_Text_Buffer::~Fl_Text_Buffer()'  do you guys know what library im missing?
[18:47] <simplexio> kn100: there is no virus in wild for linux currently that im aware. thoght there are alot stupid commands that you can use to destroy system when using root user
[18:47] <JohnWittle> Does APT have its own support channel? My database is unusually large.
[18:47] <martin____> kdub: aaaah, broken :P http://rafb.net/p/QCYnyj51.html
[18:47] <boss_mc> zek, that's libfltk
[18:48] <Pici> zek: Whats wrong with install stage out of the repos?
[18:48] <olmari> So... no one know anything about PXE live booting? ;)
[18:48] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, "fglrx-amdcccle_8.612-)unbuntu1_i386.deb", "fglrx-kernel-source_8.162-0ubntu1_i386.deb", "fglrx-modaliases_8.612-0ubuntu1_i396.deb", "libamdxvba1_8.612-0ubuntu1_i386.deb" and "xorg-driver-fglrx_8.612-0ubuntu1_i386.deb"
[18:48] <wiijii> Anyone?
[18:48] <kn100> simplexio but the need of root is almost nulk
[18:48] <kn100> nil
[18:48] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, yeah, did you have it working before you installed them?
[18:48] <zek> Pici: because it requires player and i need a newer build than is in the repository
[18:48] <Chr|s> !anyone | wiijii
[18:48] <ManDay> Can anyone tell me where and how to adjust the main-menu so the items for "shutdown" etc dont appear in it anymore?!
[18:48] <wiijii> 'Unsupported Hardware' AMD watermark removal?
[18:48] <kn100> specially in ubuntu since root account is disabled
[18:48] <kdub> martin____: what exactly are you trying to do with your kernel?
[18:48] <shiznebit> unnamedplayer_: you gots to purge all those packages
[18:48] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, Yeah the open source worked display wise, I was having choppy results though in Nexuiz and tried to fix it with the proprietary drivers
[18:49] <Pici> zek: If you're still installing the build dependencies out of the repositories you can do: sudo apt-get build-dep stage
[18:49] <Chr|s> ManDay: System > Preferences > Main Menu
[18:49] <unnamedplayer_> shiznebit, How do I purge them only running off the livdCD?
[18:49] <martin____> martin____: modprobing the module for my card which isnt loaded any more: sudo modprobe snd-ca0106
[18:49] <unnamedplayer_> shiznebit, liveCD*
[18:49] <Hekos> hey, im searching for some kind of backup utility..  i want my home folder to be saved + the dpkg list.. so that i must only save the /home and all programs would be installed from cd or repo ...
[18:49] <ManDay> Chr|s, I don't see options for everything there
[18:50] <IndyGunFreak> !backup | Hekos
[18:50] <boss_mc> shiznebit, but he's not got a graphical interface... and rescue mode does not have apt-get by default
[18:50] <ManDay> Chr|s, there is nothing to remove the shutdown button etc is there?
[18:50] <kdub> martin____: ubuntu kernel, or vanilla?
[18:50] <noel_> i'm a ubuntu noob and I am trying to create a custom liveCD using remastersys.  had success doing that, but I would like to change the default wallpaper, desktop shortcuts, etc.  how do I change these?  I read something about modifying /etc/skel but all i have there is an Examples link
[18:50] <zek> Pici: what does build-dep do?
[18:50] <Hekos> good enough :3
[18:50] <martin____> martin____: newest genkernel
[18:50] <shiznebit> unnamedplayer_: in your grub menu enter in to the 2nd option
[18:50] <martin____> martin____: ubuntu
[18:50] <Pici> zek: Installs all the build dependencies for that package.
[18:50] <boss_mc> zek, installs all packages needed to build the package
[18:50] <Chr|s> ManDay: you talking about the panel or the menu?
[18:50] <martin____> kdub: 2.6.28-11-generic
[18:51] <shiznebit> unnamedplayer_: i believe there should be a command prompt way to enter through there
[18:51] <zek> in the repository,  player is called robot-player.  wont that cause problems with paths and such
[18:51] <unnamedplayer_> shiznebit, I get near blank screen when I boot though.
[18:51] <shiznebit> in grub too ?
[18:51] <ManDay> Well the menu. No matter whether I choose "Main Menu" or "Menu Bar" the Properties Dialog doesnt offer anything to fully customize it,  Chr|s
[18:51] <unnamedplayer_> shiznebit, yeah
[18:51] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, he means before ubuntu boots, when grub appears on the screen (press esc if prompted)
[18:51] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, I don't get that
[18:52] <Pici> zek: It shouldnt, build-dep generally installs -dev packages
[18:52] <shiznebit> thats a problem
[18:52] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, that suggests a broken mbr
[18:52] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, pardon?
[18:52] <zek> Pici: so it shouldnt harm my player build.  cause i really dont want to deal with that
[18:52] <kdub> martin____: obviously the module is not built for the kernel...
[18:52] <Chr|s> ManDay: What do you exactly want to do? Their is nothing in the gnome menu to remove the shut down button
[18:52] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, I've got perfect picture running the livecd
[18:52] <kdub> martin____: not built for _that_ specific kernel
[18:53] <Pici> zek: The build dependences for a package are not the same as the actual dependencies for a package.
[18:53] <Chr|s> ManDay: If your talking about the Top Panel to the far right, you just right click and remove
[18:53] <martin____> kdub: hm, ye im filing a bug
[18:53] <zek> Pici: ok thanks
[18:53] <vigo> Is there a Force Quit widget, icon that can be used on 8.04.2?
[18:53] <ManDay> I see Chr|s and thats what bothers me.  Same for the "Menu bar". I cant remove the shortcut to "Places" from it?
[18:53] <ManDay> !
[18:53] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, yeah, but if you're not even getting to the grub screen, that sugests that the drive is not booting properly at all, and it's not a graphical issue...
[18:53] <sebsebseb> vigo: maybe and if not you can add something similar I thik to the panel
[18:53] <sebsebseb> vigo: well yeah a quit button
[18:53] <Pici> vigo: If there isnt, you can make your own launcher for xkill, which is the program that the 'widget' runs
[18:54] <sebsebseb> vigo: shut down button
[18:54] <sebsebseb> vigo: oh app closing nevermind
[18:54] <sp0ckk> How come I've done a dist-upgrade, yet every application still seems like old version. VLC for example, isn't at the latest release. I've installed 8.10, but I thought a dist-upgrade brought you upto date and onto the latest release, including repos etc?
[18:54] <vigo> Thank you all kindly.
[18:54] <Chr|s> ManDay: I'm not entirely sure, if you make a custom menu yes I think, but why would you want to remove Places?
[18:54] <zek> Pici: i still get the same errors
[18:55] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, I may be talking out my ass here....isn't there someway I can either uninstall those packages using the liveCD or maybe delte references to them?
[18:55] <vigo> I use to have one, but I forgot what dpkg or offset it was.
[18:55] <ManDay> Simply because I want a custom menu. And I dont want a link to "places" in there
[18:55] <olmari> Okay... anyone know where could I ask help about PXE booting not working? :)
[18:55] <Pici> zek: I don't know what to tell you then.  The source package that you have should tell you what its dependencies are, perhaps in the README or INSTALL files
[18:55] <ManDay> I dunno whats the point of the custom menu if you can hardly configure it besides the subentries
[18:55] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, I'm saying that you might have a more serious problem than those packages
[18:55] <ManDay> , Chr|s
[18:55] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, grub should always be shown on boot
[18:56] <noel_> i'm a ubuntu noob and I am trying to create a custom liveCD using remastersys.  had success doing that, but I would like to change the default wallpaper, desktop shortcuts, etc.  how do I change these?  I read something about modifying /etc/skel but all i have there is an Examples link
[18:56] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, that has nothing to do with drivers/ubuntu/linux etc
[18:56] <zek> Pici: i have the dependencies installed.  i dont think they are linking correctly or something.
[18:56] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, give me one second here. I'll see what I can see.
[18:56] <ranf> !info vlc
[18:56] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, coming to think of it, I may not have seen the initial boot sequence
[18:56] <Conchaman> eyyyy
[18:56] <Conchaman> k pachaaaa
[18:56] <Pici> zek: Its also possible that the source has new dependencies compared to the version from the repositories
[18:56] <ManDay> oh crap... never and I say NEVER consider to put a "gnome-terminal" into your .bashrc
[18:56] <pschorf> is there a way to enable remote desktop sharing from the terminal?
[18:56] <ManDay> thats NOT what you want
[18:57] <freeanshu> noel: can u tell me where to get remastersys?
[18:57] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, brb
[18:57] <sebsebseb> !language | ManDay
[18:57] <ManDay> can anyone tell me where to place a command for execution upon startup?!
[18:57] <martin____> kdub: it broke too often so i just built my own -.-
[18:57] <freeanshu> noel: I am also trying to do the same thing
[18:57] <shiznebit> unnamedplayer_: o_O
[18:57] <zek> Pici: i went to the stage install guide and get the stuff it told me to
[18:57] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, hey wait if I do get it...what can I do?
[18:58] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, if you get it, chose the option labelled recovery mode (probably the second one) that will give you a command line
[18:58] <noel_> freeanshu: http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu-linux-mint-livecd-with-remastersys  look at the comments for the right repo
[18:58] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, kk then what? (I'm writting it down)
[18:58] <freeanshu> noel: thanks a ton
[18:58] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, in which you can do dpkg --purge all-those-packages-you-listed-above
[18:58] <noel_> u can also just install UCK that is easy to use, but even with that i dont know how to customize
[18:59] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, although the packages will be called fgrlx-amdcccle
[18:59] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, not fglrxamdcccle-21.5.-ubuntu.etc
[18:59] <pschorf> is there a way to enable remote desktop sharing from the terminal?
[18:59] <boss_mc> have you no other computer?
[18:59] <shiznebit> unnamedplayer_:  you can then do sudo apt-get purge *_8.612-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[19:00] <ubuntiana> ubuntu.it
[19:00] <shiznebit> that should get rid of all of them
[19:00] <noel_> freeanshu:  let me know if u figure out the customization part, i would recommend UCK if all u want to do is add packages
[19:00] <boss_mc> shiznebit, really? they were installed with gdebi so apt-get knows nothing about them, and the package name does not contain any of the characters you wrote...
[19:00] <Chr|s> ManDay: hmm I see.. That is odd, i'm not sure to tell you the truth, their has to be some way, idle in here, maybe someone else could help you.
[19:01] <ManDay> ok thanks Chr|s
[19:01] <shiznebit> boss_mc: you might be right
[19:01] <ubuntiana> #ubuntuit
[19:01] <ubuntiana> #ubuntu-it
[19:01] <grawity> ubuntiana: /join #ubuntu-it
[19:01] <Chr|s> !it | ubuntiana
[19:01] <shiznebit> boss_mc: i had the same problem but dont remember which way i used to get rid of them
[19:01] <whatsinaname> I have SSH installed, but i can not connect unless my headless box is logged in as a user.  I thought I could ssh in with out having a user logged in.  Please help. thanks
[19:02] <martin____> kdub: how are the vanilla sources called?
[19:02] <shiznebit> boss_mc: if anything it'll save alot of typing
[19:02] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, I do what to do "sudo apt-get purge"? (No insult meant by asking for second opinion just getting two sources of info)
[19:02] <freeanshu> noel: i need to do a bit more
[19:02] <freeanshu> noel: i changed the boot splash
[19:02] <shiznebit> unnamedplayer_: no insult take, im no ubuntu god
[19:02] <noel_> freeanshu: how u do that?
[19:03] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, no offence taken, if you installed the packages by double clicking on them, I'd use dpkg --purge <names> to remove them
[19:03] <freeanshu> noel: few more stuffs with GRUB
[19:03] <freeanshu> noel: there are lot of sites telling that
[19:03] <shiznebit> boss_mc: would dpkg --purge *_8.612-0ubuntu1_i386.deb   work ?
[19:04] <freeanshu> noel: download the source code and see
[19:04] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, So the package installed "fglrx-amdcccle_8.612-0ubuntu1_i386.deb" won't be under that name?
[19:04] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, shiznebit, the numbers after the _ are the version numbers, not the name of the package
[19:04] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, shiznebit, the package name is everything up to the _
[19:04] <freeanshu> noel:http://ubuntusatanic.org/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=21&page=1
[19:05] <freeanshu> noel: is one of them
[19:05] <shiznebit> boss_mc: oh gotchya
[19:05] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, shiznebit, so to remove the package you don't use the version (except possibly in weird scenarios that I can't think of...)
[19:05] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, So, sorry if this sounds stupid, but I'd use "dpkg --purge fglrx-amdcccle"?
[19:05] <martin____> how do i install the vanilla kernel?
[19:05] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, give the man a biscuit, he's got it!
[19:06] <sebsebseb> martin____: why would you want to?  and I think 9.04's kernel is based on it or something
[19:06] <boss_mc> unnamedplayer_, in other words, yep :)
[19:06] <unnamedplayer_> boss_mc, Okie, now let's see if I get grub. bbias
[19:06] <ZeroBeholder> a fish biscuit?
[19:06] <martin____> sebsebseb: because the normal kernel isnt woking
[19:06] <ZeroBeholder> sorry. nevermind
[19:06] <whatsinaname> How can I SSH to headless box with out having a user account logged in?
[19:06] <guntbert> whatsinaname: that looks strange, do you have both computers at hand?
[19:06] <sebsebseb> martin____: you can get a ppa for a later kernel
[19:06] <whatsinaname> yes
[19:06] <boss_mc> ZeroBeholder, nice interjection...
[19:06] <grawity> whatsinaname: What do you mean "without having a user account"?
[19:06] <sebsebseb> martin____: that would probably be better than compiling your own kernel
[19:06] <martin____> sebsebseb: ah ok, thats what im doing right now
[19:06] <shiznebit> which the ubuntu devs set it so you couldn't bork your system if you installed those packages
[19:07] <guntbert> whatsinaname: ah, you said headless, so how do you get " a user logged in" ?
[19:07] <sebsebseb> martin____: ok
[19:07] <vigo> sebsebseb and Pici: found it, right click a panel, + Add to Panel, is a list of such stuff, one is Force Quit.
[19:07] <whatsinaname> grawity my headless box would auto login my account .  I am just now making it headless.
[19:07] <pschorf> is there a way to enable remote desktop sharing from the terminal?
[19:07] <sebsebseb> vigo: yes that's what I said, that you could probably add something like that
[19:07] <RedSocrates> martin____: Out of curiosity, what issues are you having with the 'normal' Ubuntu kernel?
[19:07] <Pici> vigo: Oh. I didn't realize you didn't know how to add a panel applet, sorry.
[19:07] <ZeroBeholder> I'm mostly lurking to read what other people are doing.  I'm a noob.  It's not the best way to learn, but a lot of stuff flies by and some of it is good.
[19:08] <martin____> RedSocrates: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ports-meta/+bug/379494
[19:08] <chaos2fu> hii everybody...does anyone knows what the windowskey is written like when i configure the shortcommands lika <ctrl> and <alt>??
[19:08] <Airion> hi, I've got a problem with my external harddisk, I can mount it, I see how much disk space is left, but i can't see any files... does anyboday have an idea? thx!
[19:08] <boss_mc> chaos2fu, <meta>
[19:08] <vigo> I forget stuff, I had it before, just forgot how to re-enable it.
[19:08] <whatsinaname> grawity I can use putty to ssh into it if it is logged into account, but if I turn of the autologin (leaving box just at login prompt) I can not ssh from another box. connection times out.
[19:08] <grawity> boss_mc: I thought meta == alt?
[19:08] <Pici> whatsinaname: There is no reason for a user to be logged in locally if you are ssh-ing in.
[19:08] <guntbert> ZeroBeholder: its a good way to learn, but please keep your comments/questions on topic
[19:08] <zek> for people who know how to use cmake.  during the make process i get a line that says "Linking CXX shared library libstage.so" in red.  does that mean that it didnt work?
[19:08] <RedSocrates> martin___: Oh, I see.  Thanks.  Was curious because I also had issues with the normal Ubuntu kernel, but they were different ones
[19:08] <vigo> I still thank you kindly. :-)
[19:08] <grawity> whatsinaname: Ah, you mean "not logged in to the GUI"?
[19:09] <sebsebseb> vigo: ok :)
[19:09] <boss_mc> grawity, chaos2fu, hmmmm, could be <super>
[19:09] <grawity> boss_mc: That could be, yes.
[19:09] <whatsinaname> grawity yes, sorry if I am not making sense, kind of new to headless
[19:09] <Jamed> chaos2fu: i'm not sure but i think it's <super>
[19:09] <adityag> i want to replace "aerosmith" with "ar" for every occurence of it in every files(*.php, *.css , *.tpl) & folders, any help will be appreciated!!
[19:10] <zek> what do i do to make sure all my libraries are linked and referenced?
[19:11] <chaos2fu> Thanks jamed and boss_mc for ya help...it was right, super is the thing!
[19:11] <boss_mc> kl
[19:11] <adityag> ﻿i want to replace "aerosmith" with "ar" for every occurence of it in every files(*.php, *.css , *.tpl) & folders, any help will be appreciated!!
[19:11] <whatsinaname> grawity I am using 9.04 desktop, and installed webmin.  I didn't want webmin to start at boot so I was going to ssh to box, and start it.  that is when I found problem of not being able to ssh in.
[19:12] <whatsinaname> grawity I am just configuring the box, so I still have monitor connected to it for trouble shooting purposes.  after I get ssh working with out gui logged in it is going in the basement.
[19:12] <guntbert> !webmin | whatsinaname
[19:12] <grawity> whatsinaname: And what part of ssh is not working?
[19:12] <panfist> !ebox
[19:12] <GeorgeJ> whatsinaname: I'm sorry, could you explain your problem again? How does your ssh not work?
[19:13] <mouka> Hi all
[19:13] <whatsinaname> I have SSH installed, but i can not connect unless my headless box is logged in as a user.  I thought I could ssh in with out having a user logged in.
[19:13] <mouka> I am trying to compile ogre 3d from source
[19:13] <whatsinaname> I have SSH installed, but i can not connect unless my headless box is logged in as a user.  I thought I could ssh in with out having a user logged in. (to the GUI)
[19:13] <mouka> but when I try bootstrapping, I get the following error
[19:13] <mouka> anybody can help?
[19:13] <mouka> http://pastebin.com/d1ff943c8
[19:14] <grawity> whatsinaname: Do you have a password set for your account?
[19:14] <grawity> whatsinaname: I think sshd refuses empty passwords
[19:14] <whatsinaname> yes
[19:14] <chaos2fu> hii everyone again! i have a problem with my codecs on ubuntu..when i play movies (avi, divx and so on) the picture is "broken"...its hard to explain, its not lagging but the picture change att different times...anybody got a solution?
[19:14] <whatsinaname> grawity yes I have password set.
[19:15] <grawity> whatsinaname: Can you login to the console? (Ctrl-Alt-F2 to switch to the second console, for example. GUI is on Ctrl-Alt-F7)
[19:15] <felix_> !logs
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> chaos2fu: have you installed video drivers?
[19:15] <ManDay> can anyone tell me where to place a command for execution upon startup?!
[19:16] <xplorer> which version u r using
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> !startup
[19:16] <whatsinaname> grawity yes I just tried now and I can
[19:16] <ManDay> thanks
[19:16] <mrwes> chaos2fu, do you have visual effects enabled?
[19:17] <grawity> whatsinaname: Hmm. Can you open a terminal, and type: sudo tail -f /var/log/{auth.log,syslog}
[19:17] <grawity> whatsinaname: Then try to SSH and see if any new entries appeared in the terminal.
[19:18] <chaos2fu> yes, i have installed video drivers... and no i dont have any visuals effects enabled...im running the ubuntu netbook remix on my acer aspire one and the ubuntu is designed to work on these kind of computers...;-)
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> chaos2fu: linux is designed for all computers
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> chaos2fu: its the config that makes it different
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> chaos2fu: try without visual effects,see if its better
[19:20] <mouka> anybody know how to install properly ogre 3d from source?
[19:21] <mouka> I followed several tutorials, but I keep getting the following error
[19:21] <mouka> http://pastebin.com/d1ff943c8
[19:21] <whatsinaname> grawity ok I am now getting "failed password for invalid user     which is strange because I am logged in with that user on the gui
[19:21] <grawity> whatsinaname: So GUI logins work, console works, SSH doesn't?
[19:22] <chaos2fu> Actionparsnip: sorry man, my fault! i meant that this remix is designed for example acer aspire one among some other netbooks with drivers and that kind of stuff.  By visual effects u mean the one for the whole operating system?
[19:23] <whatsinaname> grawity: correct  access denied.  I must have ssh screwed up somewhere
[19:24] <UnnamedPlayer> boss_mc: OMG IT WORKED
[19:24] <UnnamedPlayer> boss_mc: YOU GUYS ARE FUCKING AWESOME
[19:24] <boss_mc> UnnamedPlayer, language....
[19:24] <UnnamedPlayer> Pardon my language, I got excited
[19:25] <boss_mc> UnnamedPlayer, but still, good to hear it
[19:25] <whatsinaname> excited is good.
[19:25] <ThomasHC1> crash9
[19:25] <whatsinaname> especially when fixing something
[19:25] <UnnamedPlayer> boss_mc: what was the last command?
[19:25] <boss_mc> UnnamedPlayer, the dpkg one?
[19:25] <UnnamedPlayer> The one after purge
[19:25] <boss_mc> UnnamedPlayer, there wasn't one...
[19:26] <UnnamedPlayer> boss_mc: The other person that was helping suggested it
[19:26] <boss_mc> the apt-get one?
[19:26] <boss_mc> it's for installing from the repositories
[19:26] <UnnamedPlayer> boss_mc: If that was the one I asked a second opinion about
[19:26] <boss_mc> but you made the packages yourself so it wouldn't have helped
[19:27] <UnnamedPlayer> boss_mc: sweet man. Hey...any chance if I tried the 9.3 it might work?
[19:27] <boss_mc> UnnamedPlayer, what card, and what version of Ubuntu?
[19:28] <UnnamedPlayer> I forget the command to check which card
[19:28] <whatsinaname> hmm just got webmin running and now people say ebox?  more homework for me.
[19:28] <vigo> lspci or something
[19:28] <UnnamedPlayer> I'm running Jaunty
[19:28] <boss_mc> UnnamedPlayer, lspci
[19:28] <boss_mc> under Jaunty 9.3 won't work
[19:29] <fubada> hey anyone got PS3 ubuntu going
[19:29] <UnnamedPlayer> boss_mc: Which line tells me?
[19:29] <fubada> how come i can only allocate 10gb to PS3 or 10gb to Linux, why is it so limited
[19:29] <boss_mc> UnnamedPlayer, you can't use 9.3 or lower on jaunty due to a new version of X
[19:30] <UnnamedPlayer> boss_mc: Which for some reason was what I was looking for. I started looking for 1.5
[19:30] <vigo> fubada: That is the storage cap on a PS3, I think
[19:30] <UnnamedPlayer> boss_mc: I was directed to ATI d/l page in a round-about way
[19:31] <Slart> whatsinaname: webmin isn't compatible with ubuntu, or so I've heard
[19:31] <Slart> whatsinaname: I still use it to setup my firewall and it works nicely.. but you might want to think before trying any other options in webmin
[19:31] <Tyler> Slart: webmin works fine with ubuntu
[19:31] <whatsinaname> sigh, oh well I will try ebox,  it is always fun to tinker with new stuff (even if webmin was new to me)
[19:31] <boss_mc> UnnamedPlayer, haha, well, I hear it is possible to downgrade to X version 1.5 and use fglrx 9.3 but I guess it would be a traicky manouver
[19:31] <Slart> whatsinaname: ebox is hopeless, imho
[19:31] <Slart> !webmin | Tyler
[19:31] <UnnamedPlayer> boss_mc: Something I'd be willing to try...if not just to learn
[19:32] <Slart> Tyler: apparently the people behind ubuntu doesn't think so
[19:32] <Tyler> Slart: oh, which versions of ubuntu? I have it working fine with 8.04 LTS
[19:32] <Slart> Tyler: as I said.. I haven't run into any issues so far.. but I'm really just using a subset of all the functions
[19:32] <Slart> Tyler: I've seen it mentioned at least a couple of versions back
[19:32] <boss_mc> UnnamedPlayer, it's out of my league then, try googling for downgrade X in jaunty
[19:33] <Tyler> hmm
[19:33] <UnnamedPlayer> boss_mc: thanx
[19:34] <Bjarke1987> Hello
[19:35] <Speckz> Anyone here use WUBI http://wubi-installer.org on Windows 7 yet?
[19:36] <djh816> hey guys, i'm trying to get a broadcom BCM4212 pci  modem working with no luck
[19:36] <djh816> could anybody help me out?
[19:36] <rogue780_> is there a way to get a list of all processes currently accessing the network/binding a port?
[19:36] <kdub> martin____: what do you mean, 'how are the vanilla sources called?'
[19:36] <Pici> rogue780_: sudo lsof
[19:36] <whatsinaname> oh well have to go, grawity thanks for tryin to help.  I will get it figured out sometime, right now its to nice outside to sit here :)
[19:36] <martin____> kdub: yes, but im finsihed with my kernil :)
[19:37] <sebsebseb> Speckz: no and I woudn't even recommend Wubi
[19:37] <sebsebseb> Speckz: as well as plenty of others that come here
[19:37] <Slart> rogue780_: try... lsof -i :portnumber
[19:37] <Slart> rogue780_: not sure if you should put a sudo in front of that or not
[19:37] <shiznebit> UnnamedPlayer: just wait untill the drivers get upgraded
[19:37] <Speckz> sebsebseb, Ok, thank you!
[19:37] <sebsebseb> Speckz: it's better to do real partitions :)
[19:38] <lws> Can somebody help me figure out how to load ath_pci at startup?
[19:38] <lws> No matter what I do, it won't load.  Which is annoying because it is acting as my access point
[19:39] <Speckz> sebsebseb, yes, I know, but for someone who wants to try ubuntu without partitions and whatnot I figured I'd ask to see if it works with W7.
[19:39] <shiznebit> UnnamedPlayer: because it might become a hassle undoing everything once you go down to X 1.5
[19:40] <sebsebseb> Speckz: it probably works, but  there are various reasons why Wubi isn't that good
[19:40] <sebsebseb> Speckz: also if you do a virtual machine you can try Ubuntu inside Windows 7, but really  Windows 7 inside Ubuntu would be better
[19:41] <sebsebseb> Speckz: people can get weird wubi issues also
[19:42] <outofthemadness> is there a way to get the source of a package in the repositories with a makefile and a configure script(ie, not through synaptic)
[19:42] <tanner2007> hey guys, i installed windows 7 and now grub got over written so i cant access ubuntu, now i try to boot from cd to do some instructions to restore it, but all i get is "cannot display this video mode" and idk even know how or if i can acess termnial
[19:42] <boss_mc> outofthemadness, aptitude source packagename
[19:43] <Speckz> sebsebseb, Right, ok. Thanks for the info.
[19:43] <djh816> tanner2007, did you try this one or following a different set of instructions? http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/reinstall-ubuntu-grub-bootloader-after-windows-wipes-it-out/
[19:43] <sebsebseb> Speckz: no problem
[19:43] <simplexio> tanner2007: alt+ctrl+f1
[19:44] <tanner2007> djh816 not that guide but a guide, but i cant acces terminal, maybe im doing it worng, what shortcuts open terminal
[19:45] <jdu> tanner2007: alt+f2,  type  gnome-terminal , <enter>
[19:46] <tanner2007> pressing it, nothings happen just says cannot display in thsi vidoe mode
[19:47] <mib_am0tnx> Hi, I have a question about un-installing Ubuntu.... long story short, I have a disk image of my previous XP installation, on a separate hard drive.... Can I just pop in the Ghost CD and reimage this hard drive (there are no partitions other than Ubuntu, I think), and it will bring me back to where I was?
[19:47] <sebsebseb> mib_am0tnx: why you want to get rid of Ubuntu?
[19:47] <tanner2007> so anyone>
[19:48] <mib_am0tnx> Well, I just was testing it out today... but I really need a reputable internet filter with the ability to have a whitelist account and a filtered account
[19:48] <Airion> hi there! I've got a problem with my external harddrive: I can mount it, I see how much space is left, but i can't see any files... does anyboday has an idea what to do? thx!
[19:48] <sebsebseb> mib_am0tnx: that kind of thing can be set up in a Linux distro as well
[19:48] <mib_am0tnx> I wasn't able to find an "easy" solution.... although, I'm not that familiar with Ubuntu, so....
[19:48] <mib_am0tnx> sebsesbseb: what do you mean?
[19:48] <sebsebseb> mib_am0tnx: you can set up Internet filters and so on
[19:48] <fractur3d> mib_am0tnx: i'm sure there is a nice front end to squid proxy somewhere
[19:49] <fractur3d> mib_am0tnx: that will get your internet filtering for you
[19:49] <sebsebseb> Airion: maybe the problem is simpalley that you didn't unmount it in Windows
[19:49] <sebsebseb> Airion: and so  it still thinks  it's running and so Ubuntu can't just open and use it
[19:49] <mib_am0tnx> fractur3d: So, being a Linux newbie.... I was hoping to kind of learn and switch from Windows, but it's getting complicated really fast.... :) Plus, I'm on a workgroup, so I think that complicates things a little.
[19:49] <sysdoc> Anyone using the Ubuntu RT kernel from PPA for Alessio Igor Bogani and does it work with nvidia drivers? I had a real bad experience with the standard kernel from the ubuntu repos.
[19:50] <fractur3d> mib_am0tnx: yea...i can sympathize...you should be able to just reimage and be back in windows before you finish your lunch
[19:50] <sebsebseb> mib_am0tnx: don't give up
[19:51] <sebsebseb> mib_am0tnx: most of the Internet runs on Linux :)
[19:51] <sebsebseb> mib_am0tnx: quite a few companies and so on are going Linux
[19:51] <sebsebseb> mib_am0tnx: on there networks etc
[19:51] <mib_am0tnx> sebsebseb: I know, that's why I wanted to switch! Yet, I need a solution, like, now.
[19:51] <mbs> hi
[19:51] <Airion> sebsebseb: no, i had that problem earlyer and got a message that i can't mount, but no i can mount perfectly, in can go into the folder and see in dolphin how much space is left
[19:51] <mbs> hi
[19:51] <mbs> hi
[19:51] <mbs> hi
[19:51] <FloodBot1> mbs: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:51] <mib_am0tnx> fractur3d: I'm considering it, but I'm still hoping
[19:51] <sebsebseb> mib_am0tnx: try finding one in ##linux
[19:51] <bit_o> *me
[19:51] <tanner2007> screw it.
[19:52] <mib_am0tnx> sebsebseb: that's another IRC channel?
[19:52] <sebsebseb> mib_am0tnx: yes
[19:52] <sebsebseb> mib_am0tnx: and a general Linux one
[19:52] <pancho> hola
[19:52] <sebsebseb> tanner2007: humm
[19:52] <sebsebseb> !patience | tanner2007
[19:52] <pancho> tengo inconvenientes con linux debian
[19:53] <cougardn> hi, my computer does not start any more, not even Grub. (all I see after the first screen where I can choose boot device and bios is a blinking cursor. I can not acess the bios, CTR-ALT-ENTF does not work either) any help?
[19:53] <sebsebseb> tanner2007: what was your issue again?
[19:53] <mib_am0tnx> sebsebseb: OK, thanks! If I don't find anything, can I just stick in the ghost CD and reimage? Just point the destination to my main drive? There are no partitions except those that Ubuntu generates, if any
[19:53] <Myrtti> !es | pancho
[19:53] <sebsebseb> mib_am0tnx: yes I assume so, but  you want to get away from Windows :)
[19:53] <sebsebseb> mib_am0tnx: and I know what you want to do can be done, I just don't have the details
[19:53] <mib_am0tnx> sebsebseb: OK, great - thanks!
[19:53] <tanner2007> sebsebseb: grub got over written, and if i boot and try out ubuntu form live cd to try to fix it as said in the guide all i get is cannt dispaly this vdieo mode and cant acces terminal or anything
[19:53] <ubuntu_> yo yo
[19:54] <sebsebseb> mib_am0tnx: now there will be a bit of a learning curve for what you want to do,  you will have to use commands and such probably
[19:54] <cougardn> btw, I have a dualboot system with windows, last system I just shut down (without errors) was Ubuntu
[19:54] <outofthemadness> does anyone know how I might fix my rather unique python problem? I accidentally overwrote the default python install ith stackless and now my sys.path is all screwed up, among other things. Synaptic thinks the version of python installed is the version in the repos, but
[19:54] <sebsebseb> mib_am0tnx: ,but  if you don't give up, the results should be rather good :)
[19:54] <bookmark> what are contrib and non-free called on ubuntu?
[19:54] <Slart> outofthemadness: try doing a reinstall.. apt-get install --reinstall
[19:54] <enzotib> ls -l /media/
[19:54] <cougardn> outofthemadness: remove completely and reinstall?
[19:55] <Slart> bookmark: universe.. and multiverse I think
[19:55] <sebsebseb> tanner2007: oh some odd issue, instead of a standard Grub went bye bye issue
[19:55] <cougardn> !closed-source
[19:55] <Slart> !repos | bookmark
[19:55] <cougardn> !non-free
[19:55] <cougardn> k..
[19:55] <Slart> !search free
[19:55] <outofthemadness> I've tried reinstalling, and it had no effect, and I am pretty sure removing completely would work, however it would remove 2 gigs of programs, among them the ones that control the wifi card in this laptop
[19:55] <tanner2007> =/
[19:55] <bit_o> l
[19:56] <Slart> outofthemadness: have you tried sudo apt-get install --reinstall --purge python ?
[19:56] <sebsebseb> tanner2007: is Ubuntu's partition still there?
[19:56] <cougardn> anyone who remembers my problem? After 1-2 minutes it now started. What happned in the meantime?
[19:56] <outofthemadness> Slart: I haven't yet, let me give that a shot
[19:56] <sebsebseb> tanner2007: I assume so, and if so you should be able to access on Live CD and all that
[19:56] <sebsebseb> tanner2007: oh your error is when you try to access on LIve CD?
[19:57] <alain> bonjour
[19:57] <x_link> Hi!
[19:57] <tanner2007> it is, but i cant access it if the pc wont display, i went throu this before when instlalling it and fixed it but cant fix it if its booting not writting to the partition
[19:57] <x_link> I'm new with GNOME.
[19:57] <x_link> Where can I turn off my bluetooth?
[19:57] <cougardn> x_link: so just ask
[19:57] <tanner2007> once it boots up from live cd i get this "cannot display this video mode"
[19:57] <cougardn> x_link: do you use an EEE-pc?
[19:57] <x_link> cougardn: Nope
[19:58] <Slart> x_link: sudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth stop might work
[19:58] <cougardn> x_link: to bad, I knew it for eees
[19:59] <cougardn> Between Bios-choise/mem tests and Grub I'm waiting very long, seeing a blinking cursor. whats wrong? (thats new and I didnt change anything!)
[19:59] <outofthemadness> Slart: No luck. But I finally had the epiphany about what was causing my problem because of your suggestion
[20:00] <Slart> outofthemadness: ah.. nice that I was helpful in some way =)
[20:00] <slg> was wondering why ubuntu does not offer a step by step configuration program for installation, so you can select or disable all this mostly not needed programs,services etc. cmon ubuntu is becoming more and more like windump, if you are wondering just running debian and have about 50% more efficiency ....
[20:01] <Slart> slg: you can install the minimal install.. that will let you chose what to install
[20:01] <slg> i must say i am really disappointed with 9.04
[20:01] <cougardn> sig, take a minimal install and get the packages you want. i can even give you a tutorial
[20:01] <x_link> Slart: But the bluetooth-light is still on.
[20:02] <steph291> hi !
[20:02] <aramisbear> Good afternoon all, I'm new here but I'm trying to figure out how to switch the video driver from the command prompt in Jaunty
[20:02] <cougardn> cougardn: or you search for it yourself at lifehacker.com
[20:02] <steph291> need help !
[20:02] <aramisbear> haven't been able to find any good resource on google
[20:02] <Slart> x_link: that stops the software in ubuntu.. I don't think it kills the hardware
[20:02] <cougardn> x_link: but bluetooth stopped working?
[20:03] <steph291> I lost my /dev/video0, but lspci show my capture device ?!?
[20:03] <slg> how about a graphical version witch takes you step by step through the installation.. like have you got a printer installed, do you need three schedulers ? etc,,,
[20:04] <cougardn> Between Bios-choice/mem tests and Grub I'm waiting very long (seeing a blinking cursor). whats wrong? (thats new and I didnt change anything!)
[20:04] <Slart> slg: it's probably a design decision.. it might be easier to support one homogenous install base..but I'm really just guessing.. I have no idea why they do things the way they are doing them.. this might be better discussed in #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:04] <deuonderer> hi guys,i've a problem: after i installed the fgrlx drivers by using hardware driver,i reboot and my video resolution seems absurd. That's the screenshot http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/6471/schermatal.png..any help?
[20:05] <steph291> so if I start a capture software, it's complaining about /dev/video0 missing
[20:05] <slg> just good to know i am not alone with my opinion, sure will have a look at #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:05] <axisys> i have a IP is continuosly trying to login , may be with a DDoS tool .. how do I block that IP ?
[20:06] <mib_am0tnx> sebsebseb: so I just reimage, basically, and don't worry about partitions?
[20:06] <AlexStacey> hi, i've got a new dell laptop and i'm trying to set up a dual-boot (vista/ubuntu) - i've got to the final stage of the ubuntu installation and trying to work out where to install the boot loader
[20:07] <AlexStacey> should i install it on the vista(loader) partition?
[20:07] <JKemp> The drive your duall booting on...
[20:07] <JKemp> Not a partition...
[20:08] <sebsebseb> mib_am0tnx: yeah just delete the partitions, or use Ghost
[20:08] <AlexStacey> JKemp: the actual drive /dev/sda rather than a partition?
[20:08] <sebsebseb> mib_am0tnx: that should do it
[20:08] <steph291> :\
[20:08] <JKemp> @ALEX yep
[20:08] <ricardoromao> hello, someone knows how to config the shaperd ?
[20:09] <deuonderer> hi guys,i've a problem: after i installed the fgrlx drivers by using hardware driver,i reboot and my video resolution seems absurd. That's the screenshot http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/6471/schermatal.png..any help?
[20:09] <aramisbear> I've got a touch screen system that I'm trying to get configured, but I need to switch the video driver that Jaunty is trying to use by default so that In can get it installed in the first place
[20:09] <aramisbear> any ideas?
[20:11] <Lilarcor> axisys: use iplist
[20:11] <Wunderbar> need help with configure make make install stuff guys...
[20:11] <Wunderbar> plz :)
[20:11] <steph291> black hole
[20:11] <Wunderbar> black hole?
[20:11] <Slart> Wunderbar: mm.. I'll help you.. if you promise one thing.
[20:12] <Wunderbar> yah
[20:12] <Slart> Wunderbar: never ever use "plz" in this channel again.. =)
[20:12] <Wunderbar> okies, apologies
[20:12] <Slart> Wunderbar: no worries.. just a personal pet peeve =)
[20:12] <Slart> Wunderbar: what are you trying to compile
[20:12] <Wunderbar> so I've only ever done it once before and I can't remember how
[20:13] <Wunderbar> it's an emulator
[20:13] <Wunderbar> the folder is on my desktop
[20:13] <|amadeus|> Moin
[20:13] <Slart> Wunderbar: it might differ a little from program to program.. but the most common way is to start with the command ./configure
[20:13] <Wunderbar> done- I tried to add the folder name but to no avail
[20:13] <Slart> Wunderbar: it will check that you have all the libraries you need, that the compiler is setup etc etc
[20:14] <Slart> Wunderbar: you tried to add the folder name?
[20:14] <tanner2007> Guys i ned to delete a folder off an sd card but giving me cannot delete due to premissions
[20:14] <ericP> how do i tell ubunto (synaptics?) to go ahead and use proprietary [video] drivers?
[20:14] <axisys> Lilarcor: iplist ? which package ?
[20:14] <Lilarcor> axisys: I think it's called iplist
[20:14] <ericP> the non-proprietary vid drivers don't come back from suspend
[20:14] <Slart> ericP: try using the hardware drivers thingy.. in system, administration
[20:15] <axisys> Lilarcor: apt-cache search iplist did not find it
[20:15] <MeXTuX> I have the Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02) chipset and am trying to build the driver from source. When i try to patch the ipw3945 source got this message: missing header for unified diff at line 3 of patch. Can't find file to patch at input line 3. Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option? Any idea about what I am doing wrong?? :(
[20:15] <outofthemadness> does anyone know why the sys.path for /usr/bin/python2.6 and /usr/local/bin/python2.6 wouldn't agree?
[20:15] <Lilarcor> axisys: http://iplist.sourceforge.net/
[20:16] <bookmark> uh is there such a thing as software glx?
[20:17] <ericP> Slart, almsot there, but it doesn't seem to find the driver. "Activate" says "Downloading and installing driver 0%" for a while, then comes back
[20:17] <Slart> bookmark: have you looked at MESA?
[20:17] <bookmark> because i have a glx screen saver working in ubuntu live cd which really surprises me
[20:17] <Jptoob> can someone can help me with backtrack?
[20:17] <axisys> Lilarcor: i see I have to update the apt sources file .. doh! thanks
[20:17] <tanner2007> i also cant create an arcive says the specfified location is not suported
[20:17] <Lilarcor> axisys: you're welcome
[20:17] <Wunderbar> is it possible to make install a zip file?
[20:17] <Slart> ericP: hmm..that's odd..
[20:17] <bookmark> oh well i dunno
[20:18] <Slart> Wunderbar: nope.. you'll have to unpack it
[20:18] <Wunderbar> have done
[20:18] <Mack> how do u use php-cli in 9.04?
[20:18] <Mack> i can't get it to work
[20:18] <Wunderbar> can't see anything here that would correspond with the instructions in the readme
[20:18] <Wunderbar> this is really, really, really odd
[20:18] <Slart> Wunderbar: do you have an url?
[20:19] <Wunderbar> for the readme? no
[20:19] <ericP> Slart, $(sudo jockey-gtk) had same effect
[20:19] <arooni-mobile> i am having issues with getting ubuntu to initiate the xine audio drivers
[20:19] <Slart> ericP: mm.. that is the hardware drivers thingy.. that's the command to run it
[20:19] <Slart> Wunderbar: I meant for the source package?
[20:20] <rootytooty> i cant run kismet in backtrack but i can browse the net.....any help?
[20:20] <djnel> I'm using jaunty and Nvidea drivers 180.44 and cant seem to get any open gl games working.... anyone mind helping an entry level linux user?
[20:22] <bookmark> how can i tell if i have hardware acceleration?
[20:22] <bookmark> odd question
[20:22] <bookmark> 3d that is
[20:22] <ericP> Slart, seems to time out waiting for a socket connected to /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket
[20:22]  * felix_ try
[20:22] <bookmark> fps i guess
[20:23] <bookmark> i mean i'm watching some pretty cool glx screen savers but i dunno if its hardware or not
[20:23] <Slart> ericP: it seems like a very "windowsy" solution but have you tried rebooting and trying again?
[20:23] <boss_mc> bookmark, see if glxgears runs
[20:23] <bookmark> yep
[20:23] <slg> hello again guess they did not like me in offtopic channel :P
[20:23] <boss_mc> bookmark, run glxinfo | grep direct
[20:23] <bookmark> ha i didn't even know it was installed i kept searching for an installation candidate
[20:24] <Wunderbar> http://gens.consolemul.com/download/gens-win32-src-2.14.zip
[20:24] <bookmark> glx gears says 100 fps
[20:24] <bookmark> 80
[20:24] <bookmark> 92
[20:25] <bookmark> direct rendering: yes
[20:25] <Mack> hmm
[20:25] <Mack> 	$ch = curl_init();
[20:25] <axisys> Lilarcor: have you used ipfilter? i am looking to find a way to block that one IP
[20:25] <Mack> whats wrong with that line?
[20:25] <boss_mc> bookmark then you are sorted
[20:25] <bookmark> whoa
[20:25] <axisys> Lilarcor: examples are not so clear
[20:25] <Scunizi> bookmark: what vid card do you have?
[20:25] <bookmark> strangeness
[20:25] <bookmark> go6150
[20:25] <bookmark> nvidia
[20:25] <FloodBot1> bookmark: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:25] <Mack> im trying to use php, and it says that there its an undefined function
[20:25] <rootytooty> any back track users willing to help????
[20:26] <Lilarcor> axisys: use IP tables and be done with it http://www.netadmintools.com/art216.html
[20:26] <Dulak> bookmark: that's kind of low fps for an nvidia card, I have a low end nvidia and pull 1000 fps from glxgears
[20:26] <bookmark> yeah well
[20:26] <bookmark> its like a psuedo card i think
[20:27] <bookmark> its on a laptop
[20:27] <bookmark> so its retarded
[20:27] <axisys> Lilarcor: u mean iplist and iptables ?
[20:27] <Lilarcor> axisys: no, I mean iptables and that's it
[20:27] <Slart> Wunderbar: are you sure this program is designed for linux?
[20:28] <axisys> Lilarcor: what does iplist give you? you recommended that before.. btw thanks for the iptable link.. looks pretty simple
[20:28] <Lilarcor> axisys: I don't know since I don't have my ubuntu VM running right now.
[20:28] <ozzmosis> anyone else have an nvidia geforce 6600 and notice the 'nv' driver in 9.04 doesn't work at all?  nvidia's own driver works though.  should I bother reporting that?  cos it's a bit of an old card now.
[20:29] <Wunderbar> well, Ive just this minute deleted a folder headed 'Gensforlinux'...so I'm guessing it is...
[20:29] <slg> bookmark: get debian and study the operation system, you will see, its worth it ;) its not so hard like you would think it is
[20:29] <Wunderbar> it was the one that was recommended to me
[20:29] <rootytooty> can someone help me or point me to a channel that can help me with backtrack?
[20:29] <bookmark> meaning?
[20:29] <bookmark> oh making glx work?
[20:30] <Wunderbar> ohb66, seeing as Im hear and Im in the mood for emulators how would I go about running img files in an emulator that demands .exe files?
[20:30] <JKemp> @rootytooty, whether i can help you depends on what the problem is. Would help if you'd start off with that..
[20:30] <Slart> Wunderbar: there is a source code package available on sourceforge.. the one you sent a link to was probably meant for windows compilers
[20:30] <Wunderbar> yeah, Ive just installed the source code, thanks
[20:31] <ericP> Slart, /etc/init.d/dbus restart sharply and soundly restarted me
[20:31] <Wunderbar> so far, so good
[20:31] <ericP> which not only solved my problme, but allowed me to come back and see that you suggested a restart
[20:31] <Slart> ericP: ah.. and the hardware drivers dialog? i works now?
[20:31] <rootytooty> i cant get kismet to work.
[20:31] <ltcabral> hey... when i used to press ' + c i used to get a ç now i get ć how can i fix that?
[20:31] <ericP> Slart, yeah, i expect there was some dbus prob after my last hibernate and a restart fixed it
[20:31] <Slart> ltcabral: make sure you're using the right keyboard map
[20:32] <Slart> ltcabral: I think it's in system, preferences
[20:32] <ericP> Slart, and best of all, i just suspended and returned without a crash. yay proprietary nvidia drivers
[20:32] <Slart> ericP: =)
[20:32]  * ericP goes to gloat at stalman's door
[20:33] <tanner2007> can someone please help me its importent, i cant copy my fileso nto my sd card in ubuntu says i do not have permission
[20:34] <Core8> hi can you guys help me? I'm trying to install the fglrx drivers on this system (I'm on it now) but everytime I install them X crashes upon booting, and I have to remove them using sudo apt-get remove fglrx* before I can reboot my system again...
[20:34] <rootytooty> you there jkemp
[20:35] <tanner2007> can someone please help me its importent, i cant copy my fileso nto my sd card in ubuntu says i do not have permission
[20:35] <Core8> I'm also not able to install the driver using the Restricted Drivers Manager, but I have been able to before on the same system in the past.
[20:36] <bookmark> do they ahve glxgears in windows
[20:36] <Core8> tanner -- try with sudo cp
[20:36] <Core8> or maybe use sudo nautilus if you need to use the gui
[20:37] <sysdoc> 1ubuntustudio
[20:37] <sysdoc> !ubuntustudio
[20:37] <Core8> anyone there that can help me with my graphic driver problem?
[20:37] <tanner2007> core8 im new at it idk how to use terminal that ood
[20:37] <tanner2007> *good
[20:37] <ran310> pidgin is better than Xchat for IRC???????????
[20:38] <grawity> ran310: Pidgin is much worse for IRC, actually.
[20:38] <tokertom> agree
[20:38] <Core8> tanner -- open terminal, and type sudo nautilus, press enter. you should have root permissions in the windows that pops up;
[20:38] <Edmond> tokertom, i agree, also
[20:38] <StormWinged> hi guys... because i did a mistake by typing sudo hal-disable-polling --device /dev/sdb1 , now brasero dont see my dvd unit, how i can enable that ?
[20:38] <JKemp> I use irssi, havn't used pidgin for irc b4 though
[20:38] <JKemp> will have to try it..
[20:39] <grawity> irssi is nice.
[20:39] <Myrtti> Core8: please, if you want to launch graphical apps from terminal, gksudo nautilus
[20:39] <StormWinged> or konversation
[20:39] <StormWinged> for irc
[20:39] <Core8> irssi is much better than pidgin IMHO
[20:39] <tanner2007> core8
[20:39] <Core8> ?
[20:39] <ozzmosis> Core8: can't help with the crashes, but you should be able to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf so that it doesn't load the buggy driver
[20:39] <JKemp> @core8 then maybe i'lll stick with it :D
[20:39] <tanner2007> o nvm holdo n lol
[20:39] <ran310>  -_- sounds like pidgin is the worst chose
[20:39] <Grim76__> Weechat is a good alternative as well to pidgin.
[20:39] <Core8> ozzmosis -- i did edit the file, and I'm back to the old driver, but I want to set it up so that the driver works properly
[20:39] <Grim76__> With regards to IRC that is.
[20:39] <StormWinged> pidgin is for IM-s mostly
[20:40] <grawity> ran310: For IM, pidgin is really good. But for IRC, it's really bad.
[20:40] <Core8> I need to get proprietary ATI drivers to work with my card.
[20:40] <Core8> They used to work in the past, but they stopped working after updating and installing software, and I need to get this fixed.
[20:40] <StormWinged> for everyone that want to use irc chats... i suggest konversation, is good
[20:40] <bc> grawity: one thing that sucks about pidgin is its annoying window focus "bug" if you're using shortcuts to open incoming messages
[20:40] <JKemp> Core8: whats your card modeL ?
[20:40] <helper> hello i put script and i did crontab which contain one of it open msn kmess but it's not working ... when i press it manually kmess open why ? thx
[20:41] <Core8> ATI Radeon 4850 HD
[20:41] <bc> grawity: the message pops up behind all other windows.
[20:41] <JKemp> Core8: & i assume your using Jaunty ??
[20:41] <Core8> yes.
[20:41] <ran310>  /grawity
[20:41] <grawity> ?
[20:41] <tanner2007> core8 i cant pull up terminal,,its like minimize at bottom of screen and wont mazimize so i can use it
[20:41] <StormWinged> because i did a mistake by typing sudo hal-disable-polling --device /dev/sdb1 , now brasero dont see my dvd unit, how i can enable that ?
[20:41] <Core8> tanner -- press alt+f2 and type gksudo nautilus.
[20:41] <Edmond> bc, and all the tabs that pop up
[20:41] <TitsFan7> Guys, I'm having some issues with FF3 on Ubuntu JJ. None of the Back Forward etc buttons function, and the information at the bottom of the window is gone. Any ideas? It looks like so: http://tinypic.com/r/2im3r14/5
[20:42] <bc> Edmond: never seen any tabs
[20:42] <Core8> then click run.
[20:42] <Core8> you should have a window come up asking for your password.
[20:42] <rootytooty> Can someone help me with BackTrack. ifconfig shows etho and lo. iwconfig shows no wireless extensions and kismet doesnt work. Im running BackTrack inside Vmware Players. Any Help??
[20:42] <Core8> type your password and the window that opens will have root permission
[20:42] <Edmond> bc, you know tabs like #ubuntu #ubuntu+1 and then others pop up
[20:43] <helper> hello i put script and i did crontab which contain one of it open msn kmess but it's not working ... when i press it manually kmess open why ? thx
[20:43] <bc> Edmond: oh, I use irssi for irc. But I can imagine Pidgin messing that up also.
[20:43] <Core8> rootytooty -- backtrack cant properly access the wifi card in a virtual machine -- try in real mode.
[20:43] <Edmond> bc, i did like irssi
[20:43] <StormWinged> cmon nobody that can help me to reverse the command?
[20:43] <StormWinged> because i did a mistake by typing sudo hal-disable-polling --device /dev/sdb1 , now brasero dont see my dvd unit, how i can enable that ?
[20:43] <rootytooty> got it Core! Thank you. Will do!
[20:43] <jdu> TitsFan7, does this regularly happen on all websites even after you navigate around a while?
[20:44] <TitsFan7> its on load.
[20:44] <TitsFan7> I just happen to have TinyPic up because I was adding the picture.
[20:44] <TitsFan7> =/
[20:44] <ozzmosis> Core8: I'd be looking with someone with the same card, to see if anyone else has actually got it working.  I've got a similar problem with an old geforce 6600, where the nv driver is broken but nvidia's do work.  nothing in google came up though.  the card is listed as supported with nv so I'm considering filing a bug report. :)
[20:44] <tanner2007> core8 ya i still cant open terminal
[20:44] <JKemp> Hmm.... @core8 whats the prob with it?
[20:44] <JKemp> Core8: Will propreitary drivers not load ?
[20:44] <Core8> ozzmosis -- I've got it working in the past... its not working now though, after installing some packages/updating the system.
[20:45] <TitsFan7> jdu: after moving around a bit. Its still the same
[20:45] <jdu> TitsFan7, so when you first access the page (on load)?  Obviously, back and forward won't work if you haven't navigated anywhere.
[20:45] <tanner2007> o nvm thnak u core8
[20:45] <cougardn> Between Bios-choice/mem tests and Grub I'm waiting very long (seeing a blinking cursor). whats wrong? (thats new and I didnt change anything!)
[20:45] <Wunderbar> Slart, I need your help again- I can't engage in my 90s gaming weekend with you...
[20:45] <Core8> tanner2007 -- you shouldnt need the terminal if you use alt+f2 and type gksudo nautilus. you can use that to manage files.
[20:45] <ozzmosis> Core8: it happens
[20:45] <TitsFan7> jdu yes, but its still like that after navigating. The bottom stuff is always gone though
[20:45] <tanner2007> i got it ty
[20:45] <jdu> TitsFan7, is it possible that an extension may be causing the problem?
[20:45] <helper> hello i put script and i did crontab which contain one of it open msn kmess but it's not working ... when i press it manually kmess open why ? thx
[20:45] <Core8> tanner2007 -- no problem :D
[20:46] <jdu> TitsFan7, what happens if you start firefox in safe mode?
[20:46] <banco> kuc
[20:46] <MeXTuX> >	I have the Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02) chipset and am trying to build the driver from source. When i try to patch the ipw3945 source got this message: missing header for unified diff at line 3 of patch. Can't find file to patch at input line 3. Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option? Any idea about what I am doing wrong?? :(
[20:46] <WebcamWonder> Is there a way to force a fsck on the next boot?
[20:46] <Core8> JKemp -- proprietary drivers wont load anymore... after I installed a lot of packages and updated the system...
[20:46] <StormWinged> helper:  give pidgin a try for msn messenger
[20:46] <TitsFan7> jdu, how would I attempt that? :(
[20:46] <jdu> StormWinged, there is an enable polling option. Look at the man page.
[20:47] <TitsFan7> Are you talking like Ubu in safe mode or just FF?
[20:47] <StormWinged> okay i`ll try
[20:47] <jdu> TitsFan7, just FF.  -safe-mode  option will do it.
[20:48] <mobi-sheep> !fsck | WebcamWonder
[20:48] <JKemp> Core8: Did the updates include a kernel package??
[20:48] <Core8> JKemp -- I updated the kernel, yeah.
[20:48] <WebcamWonder> mobi-sheep: Thanks
[20:48] <JKemp> Core8: I usually get problems with drivers and settings ALOT when upgrade to newr kernel.. etc.
[20:48] <Core8> but I installed thousands of packages in a single session...
[20:48] <Core8> mostly build-deps
[20:48] <Guest48185> help
[20:48] <hendrixski> I just installed wicd  and I can't get it to connect :-(
[20:48] <Core8> so IDK that its the kernel...
[20:49] <hendrixski> I think I need to configure the right card, but I don't know which one?
[20:49] <JKemp> Core8: So did it happen after installing updateing kernel ?
[20:49] <Core8> yeah it happened after I updated the kernel...
[20:49] <TitsFan7> jdu: firefox -safe-mode that in the terminal?
[20:49] <JKemp> @ hendrix: You need to uninstall gnome or KDE network manager first to use WICD
[20:49] <jdu> TitsFan7, yes
[20:49] <TitsFan7> its the same
[20:49] <Core8> but I also installed many other packages, so I'm not sure it's the kernel
[20:49] <TitsFan7> it also doesn't load my homepage
[20:49] <TitsFan7> forgot about that part
[20:49] <spok> hi all
[20:49] <jdu> TitsFan7, make sure all other firefox processes are closed first.
[20:50] <JKemp> @Core8: Hmm.. do you still have outdated kernel in your grub boot up list ?
[20:50] <JKemp> @Core8: If so try booting up with outdated kernel and see if it works fine, then you know the cause of it anyways...
[20:50] <TitsFan7> jdu: Error sanitizing history: [Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x80570016 (NS_ERROR_XPC_GS_RETURNED_FAILURE) [nsIJSCID.getService]"  nsresult: "0x80570016 (NS_ERROR_XPC_GS_RETURNED_FAILURE)"  location: "JS frame :: chrome://browser/content/sanitize.js :: anonymous :: line 115"  data: no]
[20:50] <Core8> JKemp -- i'm gonna reinstall the driver and try old kernel...
[20:51] <Core8> but I doubt thats the problem...
[20:51] <hendrixski> JKemp: I thought it does that for you... I mean the package manager says it replaces it
[20:51] <sven_oostenbrink> Is there a program to monitor file changes? I have some program modifying the .ssh knownhost file for a user and I want to know which program is changing it..
[20:51] <shentino> I think I fixed that subshell screensaving bug in mc
[20:52] <JKemp> @hendrix: The managers not always right. Go to add/remove programs and double check that network manager is removed
[20:52] <shentino> How do I make a patch to change the installed perms on /usr/lib/mc/mc/cons.saver to be sgid tty?
[20:52] <hendrixski> k
[20:52] <jdu> TitsFan7, ok, so you may need to get some one else who hacks on firefox to interpret that (or google about it)  I was assuming that some extension/add-on was causing the problem, and using safemode would show that.  You might try reinstalling firefox.
[20:52] <mike> anyone had the problem where you can only play 1 thing at a time with media, like I can play my mp3s, but not listen to youtube
[20:52]  * shentino is an amateur developer wanna-be
[20:53] <hendrixski> JKemp: yes it's unchecked
[20:53] <jdu> sven_oostenbrink, well, as it is happening, lsof will show it, but after the fact lsof won't help
[20:53] <awilkins> Hmph. Anyone else have an instance where using gparted to grow the extended partition breaks your windows install?
[20:53] <hendrixski> I mean, wicd shows up, and it scans all the networks, but I can't connect to anything to save my life
[20:53] <mzz> !info inotify-tools | sven_oostenbrink
[20:54] <mzz> sven_oostenbrink: perhaps try those. Haven't used them myself though...
[20:54] <WebcamWonder> Well, that didn't work
[20:54] <fubada> hi anyone use ps3 ubuntu
[20:54] <sven_oostenbrink> mzz: thanks!
[20:54] <WebcamWonder> !fsck
[20:54] <sven_oostenbrink> xit
[20:54] <mzz> TitsFan7: that's using which version of firefox? I've been known to read moz code before, can have a look
[20:54] <fubada> can someone tell me  if 9.04 was the right install choice for psubuntu
[20:55] <TitsFan7> I found a solution
[20:55] <WebcamWonder> Anyone knows any other way, or any reason why shutdown -F would not do a fsck on the next system startup?
[20:55] <TitsFan7> but I can't see the bloody address bar
[20:55] <TitsFan7> haha
[20:55] <jdu> TitsFan7, as a curiosity, what was it?  (the solution)
[20:55] <StormWinged> great jdu the command line for reverse is the same but at end must be --enable-polling
[20:55] <TitsFan7> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=923136
[20:55] <StormWinged> :D
[20:55] <TitsFan7> idk if it works
[20:55] <TitsFan7> im trying now
[20:55] <mzz> TitsFan7: "firefox -safe-mode" should have given you a dialog with (among other things) the option to "reset toolbars and controls"
[20:55] <TitsFan7> mzz it did
[20:55] <TitsFan7> I didn't know what todo from there.
[20:56] <crankharder> in gnome-terminal if I <crtl + r> and start typing I get the *last* command that matches, is there any way to scroll up through matching commands?
[20:56] <mzz> TitsFan7: killing off all of ~/.mozilla is usually overkill (that eats your bookmarks, history, saved passwords, cookies, settings, and so on)
[20:56] <jdu> StormWinged, good.  It does seem a little strange that disable polling and enable polling would be in the same command to enable it.
[20:57] <tritium> better, navatwo
[20:57] <navatwo> You could have just asked.
[20:57] <navatwo> anyways
[20:57] <navatwo> mzz: as I was trying to say
[20:57] <StormWinged> yeah... since enable polling is typed with --
[20:57] <navatwo> I don't have any settings atm
[20:57] <StormWinged> so it`s prefixes to command line
[20:57] <navatwo> :p
[20:57] <myles7897> can someone help me with this brasero problem? its not working, log http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/178222/
[20:57] <navatwo> I just started using ubuntu a few days ago
[20:58] <Core8> JKemu -- definately NOT the Kernel... :(
[20:58] <jdu> navatwo, welcome!
[20:58] <navatwo> oh hai jdu
[20:58] <Core8> still have the drivers installed so I can't start X ATM...
[20:58]  * G69 LINDO A TVI TEVE O QUE MERECEU!
[20:58] <fubada> is 9.10 officially released
[20:58] <ubuntumachine> i have a questions about linux......and i need people to be honest...no zealots please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[20:58] <fubada> ?
[20:58] <StormWinged> look here jdu http://pastebin.com/m6872a433
[20:58] <ubuntumachine> I linux/ubuntu easy to hack into?
[20:58] <Edmond> fubada, no
[20:58] <mzz> fubada: I'd expect that to be released somewhere in the 10th month of 2009, given the number :)
[20:58] <Core8> 9.10 is not officially released
[20:58] <Edmond> fubada, alpa 1 is
[20:59] <Core8> if you WANT 9.10 you can do dist-update -d
[20:59] <navatwo> mzz: what would you suggest?
[20:59] <mzz> ubuntumachine: define "hack"
[20:59] <Core8> JKemu you still here?
[20:59] <mariorz> guys
[20:59] <StormWinged> ubuntumachine: maybe depend on which vulnerabilities you have :D
[20:59] <mobi-sheep> WebcamWonder: http://computingtech.blogspot.com/2009/05/manage-ubuntu-fsck.html
[20:59] <jdu> StormWinged, yep
[20:59] <mariorz> why are the gutsy packages no longer on the servers?
[20:59] <mzz> navatwo: how's it failing now?
[20:59] <fubada> Edmond, so im installing 9.04 now, is that "stable"?
[20:59] <shiznebit> ubuntumachine: remotely accessing the computer is difficult
[20:59] <mobi-sheep> WebcamWonder: I found somethinf.  Maybe that'll work for you.
[20:59] <navatwo> same thing
[20:59] <navatwo> I didnt change anything
[20:59] <Edmond> fubada, very stable for me
[20:59] <myles7897> can someone help me with this brasero problem? its not working, log http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/178222/
[20:59] <fubada> Edmond, but officially a beta
[20:59] <fubada> ?
[20:59] <StormWinged> fubada:  i use 9.04, by 8 days
[20:59] <mzz> navatwo: what exactly did you do so far to fix it?
[20:59] <Edmond> fubada, yes
[20:59] <WebcamWonder> mobi-sheep: forcefsck didn't work either. It just removed the file and did not fsck
[20:59] <StormWinged> till now is stable
[21:00] <WebcamWonder> mobi-sheep: This is very weird
[21:00] <fubada> ok
[21:00] <Core8> fubada -- it's actually an ALPHA, and not recommended
[21:00] <navatwo> uhm
[21:00] <navatwo> loaded safemode
[21:00] <fubada> im putting 9.04 on my ps3
[21:00] <navatwo> in all honesty, I don't know how to even find that mozilla folder
[21:00] <fubada> we'll see how it goes
[21:00]  * osxdude watches hamlin watch noobs
[21:00] <mzz> navatwo: not a commandline kind of person?
[21:00] <jdu> ubuntumachine, if you mean hacking into a computer without permission, it depends on settings etc. (like any os).  If you mean hacking on the os (as in modifying it), linux is one of the best.
[21:01] <Edmond> yo
[21:01] <the[V]oid> everytime I want to run the debugger (gdb) through eclipse or code blocks the whole graphical system hangs, I can still move the mouse, but the X server doesn't even respond to ctrl+alt+backspace and I can only access the computer via ssh... what could cause this?
[21:01]  * shiznebit wonders what qualifies a newbie
[21:01] <mzz> the[V]oid: what are you running gdb on?
[21:01] <the[V]oid> mzz: what do you mean? I'm running it on ubuntu 8.04 inside either eclipse IDE or code::blocks
[21:02]  * G69 MARINHO E PINTO AO PODER! DESMASCAROU A TVI TOTALMENTE! TOTALMENTE!!!!
[21:02] <navatwo> mzz: If I knew how
[21:02] <osxdude> O.o
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> !caps | G69
[21:02] <zenxr> osxdude: gross OS X!
[21:02] <mzz> the[V]oid: attaching gdb halts the process you attach to (until you hit "continue" in the debugger). This makes gdb-ing processes like Xorg or your compositing manager tricky.
[21:02] <osxdude> zenxr, keep your opinions to yourself.
[21:02] <osxdude> :P
[21:02] <zenxr> osxdude: no thanks >:[
[21:02] <mariorz> why no gutsy dudes?
[21:02] <osxdude> k
[21:03] <mikeh789> anybody using a slingbox??
[21:03] <mobi-sheep> WebcamWonder: Did you reboot after "touch /forcefsck" ?
[21:03] <baobao> does ubuntu support bluetooth PAN network
[21:03] <mzz> navatwo: try making sure firefox is closed, then "mv ~/.mozilla/firefox ~/oldfirefox" on the commandline. Or use the gui, where you'll probably have to make it show hidden files and folders to see ~/.mozilla.
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> mariorz: its dead
[21:03] <jdu> navatwo, almost anything can be done without command line but you will find that here on channels, people will often suggest it as it is easier to help with.
[21:03] <WebcamWonder> mobi-sheep: Yessir
[21:03] <tritium> !gutsy | mariorz
[21:03] <Edmond> mikael79, what is that
[21:03] <zenxr> mariorz: gutsy doesn't even have it's repositories left from what i've heard
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> mikeh789: ive been thinking about one, looks sweet
[21:03] <erUSUL> !gutsy
[21:03] <mzz> navatwo: I completely agree with jdu, plus I'm just more at home on the commandline myself.
[21:03] <mariorz> yes this is my problem, now im stuck and cant upgrade
[21:03] <shiznebit> !intrepid
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> !7.10
[21:04] <osxdude> !jaunty
[21:04] <mikeh789> slingplayer stopped working with wine recently
[21:04] <mariorz> i still see the dapper folders on the servers though
[21:04] <mzz> navatwo: (easier to help with because your gui may be customized or not in english)
[21:04] <Core8> !karmic
[21:04] <zenxr> mariorz: weird
[21:04] <tritium> mariorz: either way, support for gutsy has ended.
[21:04] <mobi-sheep> WebcamWonder: I don't know.  You might want to ask somebody else or try #ubuntu-server as they regulate dealing with servers and filesystems all times. :)
[21:04] <shiznebit> anyone know the EOL for intrepid ?
[21:04] <WebcamWonder> mobi-sheep: Alrighty, thanks a lot
[21:04] <mariorz> im a teh fucked
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> shiznebit: april 2009
[21:04] <the[V]oid> mzz: I am trying to debug a self written application, I never meant to debug the X server
[21:04] <mzz> !pm | navatwo
[21:04] <shiznebit> 2009 ?
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> 2010 sorry
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> oops
[21:05] <shiznebit> ah
[21:05] <shiznebit> ok
[21:05] <osxdude> !intrepid
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> hehe
[21:05] <osxdude> It says ..oh
[21:05] <navatwo> oi
[21:05] <osxdude> It doesn't.
[21:05] <navatwo> my apologies.
[21:05] <Edmond> lol, ActionParsnip
[21:05] <osxdude> fail
[21:05] <mzz> the[V]oid: then I don't understand what's going on here, unless you're breaking into your application while it has the server grabbed or something.
[21:05] <StormWinged> okay, a noob question
[21:05] <navatwo> what did the mv command do?
[21:05] <navatwo> move volume...?
[21:05] <StormWinged> mv = move
[21:05] <Edmond> !mv
[21:05] <mobi-sheep> navatwo: Move the file.
[21:05] <StormWinged> not really
[21:05] <StormWinged> volume or file
[21:05] <Core8> Anyone here from before I left -- still didn't fix my graphics driver issue :(
[21:05] <StormWinged> :D
[21:06] <mobi-sheep> navatwo: Move/Rename the file.  It's two command in one.
[21:06] <navatwo> what does the ~ mean when you do ~/etc
[21:06] <Core8> ~ refers to home directory
[21:06] <StormWinged> a shortcut
[21:06] <mzz> the[V]oid: are you debugging a commandline or X app?
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> navatwo: ~ means home
[21:06] <StormWinged> it can be replaced with other location
[21:06] <zenxr> Core8: i've never seen an /etc file in the home directory..
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> navatwo: so ~/etc  == /home/$USER/etc
[21:06] <mobi-sheep> navatwo: You need to download and read the entire book -- http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/
[21:06] <navatwo> YAY
[21:06] <Who> Is there a command line script to invoke notify-osd with more details
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> zenxr: mkdir ~/etc   and your wish is granted
[21:06] <StormWinged> navatwo:  what did you try to install?
[21:06] <StormWinged> :))
[21:07] <the[V]oid> mzz: I've compiled it and am trying to run it with the debugger, but only one second after I hit the "debug" button in toolbar of either code::blocks or eclipse the graphical system hangs, as described above
[21:07] <navatwo> mzz: and jdu thanks :)
[21:07] <Who> notify-send doesn't let me do a gauge, as far as I can see
[21:07] <shiznebit> any one know when ubuntu will include the pptp-manager  package on the CD ?
[21:07] <zenxr> ActionParnip: I knew that.
[21:07] <the[V]oid> mzz: there's no problem running it with gdb from the command line
[21:07] <baobao> anyone use bluetooth in linux?
[21:07] <mzz> the[V]oid: I don't know what those buttons do (I don't use either ide). Does just attaching gdb to a process from the commandline fail the same way? If not, any idea what's different there?
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> zenxr: i thought it was funny :)
[21:08] <zenxr> ActionParsnip: meanie :[
[21:08] <mzz> the[V]oid: if you can ssh in you can maybe get the /proc/$(pidof gdb)/cmdline out
[21:08]  * Core8 still can't get fglrx working...
[21:08] <the[V]oid> mzz: I'm not familar with this, what's the purpose of getting it's command line?
[21:08] <mzz> Core8: jaunty? Are you sure the card you're using is still supported in a version of fglrx supporting xserver 1.6? Many cards need the open driver now.
[21:08] <Core8> ATI Radeon 4850HD...
[21:09] <Core8> stopped working after I installed some packages...
[21:09] <mzz> the[V]oid: well, if gdb works ok when invoked from a terminal window then presumably the ide is either invoking gdb differently or telling it to do something else differently. If it's invoking it differently /proc/$(pidof gdb)/cmdline would tell.
[21:09] <Core8> and by some I mean hundreads at once
[21:09] <Wunderbar> I did ask in xubuntu but once again there's no one there- so how do I run thunar in root?
[21:09] <lstarnes> Wunderbar: gnsudo thunar?
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> Wunderbar: gksudo thunar
[21:09] <Wunderbar> yay, <3
[21:09] <Edmond> gksudo
[21:09] <lstarnes> Wunderbar: oops, gksudo thunar
[21:10] <Wunderbar> ilu guys
[21:10]  * Core8 has no idea how to fix fglrx... :(
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> Wunderbar: same with any gui app
[21:11] <qazavul1> hey ppl
[21:11] <zenxr> qazavul1:hi
[21:11] <Core8> sigh... I guess I'm leaving since I cant figure this out...
[21:11] <Wunderbar> it's a lot more frightening in xubuntu- you get this horrible mauve header with the words- Warning, you using the root account, you may harm your system (so serious)...
[21:11] <qazavul1> can anyone help me wit my gaming problem
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> Wunderbar: well yeah, its right to warn you too
[21:12] <zenxr> qazavul1: what's the issue? beware, linux isn't made for gaming
[21:12] <Wunderbar> I know, but nautilus isn't so threatening about it...
[21:12] <qazavul1> i know
[21:12] <jonisneat> Hey guys
[21:12] <myles7897> can someone help me with this brasero problem? its not working, log http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/178222/
[21:13] <qazavul1> im just trying to find some ok games to play
[21:13] <zenxr> qazaful1: hold on :]
[21:13] <qazavul1> ty
[21:13] <zenxr> http://techgage.com/print/top_10_free_linux_games
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> Wunderbar: wel its a different app, some arent so harsh. i use pcmanfm that has an option
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> Wunderbar: same kinda thing
[21:14] <zenxr> qazaful1: nexuiz is my favorite
[21:14] <qazavul1> 8-)8-)8-)8-)
[21:14] <the[V]oid> mzz: I've gotten the cmd line from 'ps aux | grep gdb', it states 'gdb -nx -fullname -quiet -args <filename>' but when running it this way from the command line it works as well
[21:14] <Guest45171> is it possible to limit how much RAM an application can use?
[21:14] <jonisneat> I am connecting to a wired network for the first time and I cannot seem to find what settings to use in order to get my Ubuntu to work >.< Ive been using wireless networks and it automatically picked them up with no configuration, so... I came here to ask what wired settings would work and where I could find the settings I needed to use to get my computer to connect properly.
[21:14] <qazavul1> wut is it
[21:14] <Jamed> qazavul1: i would add UrbanTerror and nethack to the list :)
[21:14] <Wunderbar> is there a way to mount img files ala windows and daemon tools?
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> qazavul1: penumbra demo or urban terror :)
[21:14] <erUSUL> !iso | Wunderbar
[21:15] <qazavul1> ok il try them
[21:15] <qazavul1> be back ina bit
[21:15] <Wunderbar> img files, not iso
[21:15] <jdu> myles7897, it would appear that this is not bassero specific problem but occuring in wodim.
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> Wunderbar: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=149197
[21:15] <zenxr> qazavul1: okay :p
[21:16] <erUSUL> Wunderbar: you have to convert them to an iso (most img are just iso)
[21:16] <jdu> myles7897, then again it may be that basserro did something wrong with wodim and it could be fixed.
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> Wunderbar: sudo mount file.img /media/cdrom0 -o loop
[21:17] <Wunderbar> wait, what??
[21:17] <mzz> the[V]oid: ugh. It must be sending something to gdb that makes it do something stupid, but I can't think of a convenient way to think of what. If you kill gdb through ssh does the system recover?
[21:18] <jdu> Wunderbar, loop mounting doesn't care if it is iso.  It can be any filesystem linux can read
[21:18] <Wunderbar> oh joy
[21:18] <Wunderbar> thanks you guys
[21:18] <the[V]oid> mzz: yes it does
[21:18] <Wunderbar> you've been really helpful this evening
[21:18] <fubada> so is it easy to upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 in the future
[21:18] <fubada> or is that a reinstall
[21:19] <fubada> can apt handle that ?
[21:19] <erUSUL> fubada: is easy
[21:19] <needhelp> How do I install java in firefox ?
[21:19] <Jamed> what are some useful scripts for irssi? (i already have scriptassist and nm)
[21:19] <mobi-sheep> fubada: 9.10 Final does not exist (at the moment).
[21:19] <shiznebit> as easy to upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04
[21:19] <myxo> test
[21:19] <Decepticon> test failed!
[21:19] <fubada> im starting out with 9.04
[21:19] <fubada> on my ps3
[21:19] <myxo> lol
[21:19] <mobi-sheep> Jamed: You might want to try #irssi channel.
[21:19] <erUSUL> needhelp: install sun-java6-plugin
[21:19] <kaeferadept> hi guys. can anyone tell me what the version of xorg-server is that is shipped with ubuntu 9.04?
[21:19] <mzz> the[V]oid: does your ide log what it sent and received from gdb anywhere?
[21:20] <Jamed> mobi-sheep: yeah, i'll do that
[21:20] <erUSUL> !info xserver-xorg | kaeferadept
[21:20] <myxo> i changed my name to this and it told me it was already registered.. well yea, to me on my Ubuntu machine... I just cant get it to connect to my wired internet at the time
[21:20] <Nana> hi
[21:20] <jdu> fubada, yes, it will only really cause problems in cases of power failure/extreme customization.
[21:20] <needhelp> erUSUL, Is that all I need to do, then java will be enabled in firefox ?
[21:20] <erUSUL> needhelp: yep
[21:20] <the[V]oid> mzz: I don't think so, if it does, than it's well hidden
[21:20] <needhelp> thanks
[21:21] <kaeferadept> thanks erUSUL ... so it still 1.5
[21:22] <JarYack> no wifi out of the box with Jaunty on a macbook 2,1 despite the docs saying that it should work (network uses WPA2) searched around but no relevant bug reports for jaunty with the same problem, anyone have any tips?
[21:22] <logyati> hello@
[21:23] <logyati> is there an front end to configure ldap auth easily in ubuntu?
[21:23] <needhelp> I need a url to a site to see if java is enabled in my browser. Please?
[21:23] <erUSUL> JarYack: what is the problem exactly... the wireless card is not recogniced ? it fails to connect ? to low signal ?
[21:23] <logyati> needhelp, www.caixa.gov.br
[21:23] <zenxr> needhelp: java.com
[21:23] <needhelp> thanks
[21:23] <JarYack> erUSUL, recognized, try to connect using nm and also using wicd but fails on authentication
[21:24] <JarYack> erUSUL, as in, times out
[21:24] <logyati> hey guys, is there a frontend to configure ldap auth? i mean, i dont wanna edit files manually
[21:24] <zenxr> JarYack: it's a problem with your configuration settings probably..
[21:24] <_CPUFreak91> Hi, I've installed Jaunty on a Dell with an intel video card and it keeps using the CPU to render effects, making everything sluggish. I've fallen back to the intrepid driver, but it still is slow and using the CPU
[21:24] <casa> iaÊ
[21:24] <erUSUL> JarYack: works if you disable wpa (any security) on the ap ?
[21:24] <ssn> hi guys
[21:24] <zenxr> JarYack: I always have issues getting it working even with the correct settings, switch around encryptions and go back to the correct one; it may help
[21:25] <JarYack> JarYack: unable to on this router, but a second router without encryption works fine yes
[21:25] <ssn> is there any way to use an ubuntu pc as a "keyboard" for a symbian device?
[21:25] <happycycling> Which VM Software does anyone recommend? vbox or vm server?  Something that's free for running two OSes at once
[21:25] <JarYack> zenxr, you usually turn encryption on the router on and off?
[21:25] <ssn> happycycling: vbox, its freeer
[21:25] <tritium> happycycling: it depends, in part, on the capabilities of your processor
[21:25] <shentino> I've had good experience with kvm
[21:25] <tritium> !kvm | happycycling
[21:25] <enthused_> anyone know where the config file is stored in the kernel source tree?
[21:26] <zenxr> JarYack: no, I switch the settings on my network manager from say, WPA to WEP and back to WPA
[21:26] <erUSUL> enthused_: /boot/config-2.6.27-14-generic <<< here is the ubuntu config
[21:26] <enthused_> thanks
[21:26] <chetnick> Does anybody know why mount.ntfs process have very high CPU usage?
[21:26] <erUSUL> enthused_: when compilñing config is a file called .config (note the dot making it a hidden file)
[21:26] <Dulak> chetnick: cuz ntfs is a really shitty filesystem
[21:27] <erUSUL> enthused_: in the source directory of the kernel
[21:27] <zenxr> chetnick: Linux doesn't exactly like the NTSF file system
[21:27] <tritium> language, please, Dulak
[21:27] <Dulak> woops, forgot which channel I was on
[21:28] <rexwin12> chetnick, becoz I/O is the bottleneck
[21:28] <chazco> Hi... anyone know why the evtouch driver crashes X after a short while>
[21:28] <chetnick> Dulak: zenxr: :). My point is it was OK for last two years, it just started few days ago.
[21:28] <rexwin12> check this for performance tuning http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/nfs.htm
[21:28] <chetnick> rexwin12: what does that mean, and how to fix it?
[21:29] <serpico> hi
[21:31] <jdu> chazco, you might check out the appropriate log file (probably  /var/log/Xorg.0.log)  and see exactly what caused it to fail.  Then ask (perhaps the xorg folks)
[21:31] <chazco> jdu - Found a bug report online, seems that no errors are generated, just a total crash
[21:32] <Decessus> is there anyway I can uninstall glib without uninstalling anything related to it?
[21:33] <Decessus> when I try to do it through the package manager, it wants to uninstall loads of other programs that I need to have.
[21:33] <erUSUL> Decessus: removing base libs as glib is asking for trouble
[21:34] <erUSUL> Decessus: why would you want to remove it ?
[21:34] <Decessus> erUSUL, I'm simply trying to install the latest version (which I have done, but it didn't remove the old, and is throwing errors because of this)
[21:35] <crdlb> Decessus: why?
[21:35] <slestak> i have just picked up likewise open for my workstation.  I have a primo setup I dont want to lose.  I figured our winbind usermap, so when I log in as AD username, it appropriately comes in as the local user, but I think that is a bandaid.
[21:35] <slestak> is it safe to cp -R ~ to the ad users homedir, chown it all, and expect gnome settings and seuch to be safe?  Think gconf will have a conniption?
[21:36] <Decessus> crdlb, so I can install the latest gtk+, therefore I can install the latest wxWidgets and get back to programming.
[21:36] <crdlb> Decessus: why do you need the latest?
[21:36] <jdu> slestak, it will be fine, although cp won't copy most config files that way.
[21:36] <chazco> Hi... for the last 4 or so versions of Ubuntu i've had to run "echo "net.ipv4.tcp_window_scaling=0" | sudo tee -a /etc/sysctl.conf" after install to be able to use several internet sites. Are there any plans to fix this?
[21:37] <Decessus> crdlb, because the program I am writing depends on features only available in the latest wxWidgets.
[21:37] <crdlb> Decessus: it is a very bad idea to upgrade the system glib or gtk; if you want newer ones, use something like jhbuild to install them in a non-system location
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> chazco: submit a bug
[21:37] <qazavul1> zenxr
[21:37] <crdlb> Decessus: think about what you're saying ... people using your version of ubuntu will be unable to use it
[21:37] <chazco> ActionParsnip - Theres quite a few bugs about this, but most say "Fix Released" ages ago...
[21:37] <qazavul1> zenxr
[21:38] <erUSUL> chazco: that is not a problem that can be fixed on the client machine
[21:38] <chazco> erUSUL - But it worked on the older Ubuntus and it works on Windows, something client side is playing up
[21:38] <Guest45171> is there a command that can give me the PID of the process of a certain program, for example lets say id want to find out the PID of pidgin, how would i do it?
[21:39] <erUSUL> chazco: some router between your computer and the sites that fail is old or missconfigured or just has a sever bug. you have to find out which ones are contact their administrators and inform them
[21:39] <Guest45171> (by using the terminal)
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> chazco: strange. i use a post install script to do stuff like that as well as uninstall a tonne of guff that is installed by default
[21:39] <erUSUL> chazco: they are out of spec
[21:39] <Decessus> crdlb, how so? wxWidgets uses your systems enviroment with the same code, MAC/Win/GTK+ or otherwise.
[21:39] <qazavul1> how do i install Nexuiz if i have the whole file
[21:39] <jdu> Guest20621, pgrep pidgin
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> qazavul1: sudo apt-get install nexuiz
[21:40] <chazco> ActionParsnip - Yep, i have a script that fixes all the regressions introduced recently, but this one is annoying. If I disable it i tend to get disconnections, but with it enabled certain important sites dont work unless I use Windows
[21:40] <crdlb> Decessus: right, but they'll need the newer wxwidgets, won't they?
[21:40] <Pupeno> Where in the FS are remote SMB folders mounted when I access them? So that I can access them, for example, from the the command line.
[21:40] <qazavul1> wut sudo
[21:40] <chazco> erUSUL - Any idea why older Ubuntus and Windows are immune?
[21:40] <jdu> Guest45171, sorry pgrep pidgin
[21:41] <Guest45171> jdu, thanks alot!
[21:41] <erUSUL> chazco: they did not enabled window scaling by default ? but window scaling is essential to better network performance...
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> Pupeno: you could read /etc/samba/smb.conf to find out
[21:42] <vigo> qazavull: Are you asking a question?
[21:42] <erUSUL> chazco: see here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TCP_window_scale_option and here http://lwn.net/Articles/92727/
[21:42] <chazco> erUSUL - Hmm... i guess so... so its a choice between dodgy internet or missing sites? Thanks anyway :)
[21:42] <Decessus> crdlb, no, my software is not hardware dependent, so I can release it precompiled
[21:42] <Demonicdata> Hey what do you recommend
[21:42] <crdlb> Decessus: I think you should be able to use jhbuild to easily build latest gtk+ though, then bhild wx against that
[21:42] <Demonicdata> i'm not digging cairo dock so much
[21:42] <outofthemadness> does anyone know how I might instal the latest realtime kernel?
[21:42] <CPUFreak91_> Has anyone else had a problem with Xorg on Jaunty using the CPU to render OpenGL?
[21:42] <crdlb> Decessus: static linking == :(
[21:42] <Demonicdata> anyone recommend a good dock/widget/gui whatever
[21:42] <slestak> jdu: i guess gconf was my biggest concern
[21:43] <chazco> erUSUL - According to wikipedia this option is enabled by default on Vista, but Vista doesnt suffer from missing sites... any ideas?
[21:43] <slestak> jdu: i guess i would need cp -aR
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> Demonicdata: try a few , see which you like
[21:43] <Jamed> Demonicdata: awn is a good dock
[21:43] <erUSUL> chazco: no never used vista
[21:43] <outofthemadness> Demonicdata: I'm using the launchy skin for Gnome-do. it's a pretty decent dock, plus it does all the stuff gnome-do does. I'd give it a shot
[21:43] <vigo> Demonicdata: Desklets, Screenlets are a number, those are two that I know of and have used.
[21:43] <chazco> erUSUL - Fair enough, seems odd that it works with this option but Ubuntu doesnt
[21:43] <Pupeno> ActionParsnip: it doesn't say. Isn't that for an smb server?
[21:44] <erUSUL> chazco: maybe some program you instaled on windows disabled it behind your back
[21:44] <Demonicdata> yeah i was just checking out screenles.i'll check out launchy
[21:44] <erUSUL> chazco: you can never trust windows :)
[21:44] <Mack> is there a php channel?
[21:44] <lstarnes> Mack: ##php
[21:44] <chazco> erUSUL - I guess so... my Vista install has just Office, Firefox and Norton installed (its only used since Office doesnt work on Ubuntu yet)
[21:44] <kidko> How do you go about installing Thin or WEBrick on Ubuntu? I can't find any way to install WEBrick, and Thin gets me error messages (through RubyGems)
[21:44] <Mack> ok lstarnes thx
[21:44] <vigo> Mack: yes, **php
[21:44] <erUSUL> chazco: norton ?
[21:44] <lstarnes> Mack: but that channel requires that your nick is registered and verified with nickserv
[21:44] <vigo> whoops, ##php
[21:45] <chazco> erUSUL - Yep, but it works before that was installed
[21:45] <Mack> lstarnes: i forgot my pw :(
[21:45] <slestak> what is the double-crunch for on the channel name?
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> Pupeno: well your question was about remote smb servers and the location, right?
[21:45] <jdu> Demonicdata, gnome-do
[21:45] <lstarnes> slestak: they're not official channels about the projects or groups that they're about
[21:45] <Pupeno> ActionParsnip: my question was where are remote shares mounted on my local workstation when I access them from nautilus.
[21:46] <erUSUL> chazco: see here to check if the option is enabled or not in vista http://8help.osu.edu/3253.html
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> Pupeno: if you mean when you are accessing them as a client, they are not mounted if you use smb://<name>/share
[21:46] <lstarnes> slestak: e.g. ##php isn't owned by the group that makes php
[21:46] <chazco> So, currently broken is encrypted wifi and open-souce touchscreen drivers (closed source work)
[21:46] <Pupeno> ActionParsnip: yes, as a client.
[21:46] <JarYack> zenxr: no go on just fiddling back and forth with encryption, still fails auth. log says: CTRL-EVENT-DISCONNECTED - Disconnect event - remove keys, any other ideas?
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> Pupeno: if you want it mounted then you will specify that when you mount it
[21:46] <Wunderbar> to use 'iat' this is what Im supposed to do -  iat  input_file [output_file.iso]
[21:47] <seby> !list
[21:47] <Wunderbar> Ive tried but it's not working...
[21:47] <chazco> erUSUL - Just booting it now, will let you know
[21:47] <desomer> quite
[21:47] <Wunderbar> any clues as to how to get iat to operate?
[21:47] <seby> ciaoo
[21:47] <seby> !list
[21:47] <desomer> \quite
[21:47] <Wunderbar> how to work iat on 3...
[21:47] <Wunderbar> 1
[21:47] <chris_> is there a chess program with a decent png viewer?
[21:47] <Wunderbar> 2
[21:47] <Wunderbar> 3?
[21:47] <FloodBot1> Wunderbar: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:48] <Pupeno> Is there an easy way to specify that an smb share should be mounted?
[21:48] <mobi-sheep> chris_: "apt-get cache search chess"
[21:48] <chazco> erUSUL - It is enabled...
[21:48] <Dr_Willis> !ppc
[21:49] <chris_> mobi-sheep, any recommendations?
[21:49] <JarYack> erUSUL, have any other ideas on further debug for this? auth still fails on connect, tried modprobing in and out, flipping the encryption on and off, still no go
[21:49] <mobi-sheep> chris_: Not that I know of.  There always are Gnome Chess in Gnome-Games.
[21:49] <vigo> Is there a STT or speech to text and visa versa pkg in Ubuntu?
[21:49] <erUSUL> JarYack: dunno maybe some usefull messages ended up in /var/log/messages ?
[21:50] <chazco> erUSUL - I wonder if the Vista implementation works better than the Ubuntu one, cant think of any better explanation
[21:50] <dupondje-> May 22 22:49:31 laptopjl NetworkManager: <WARN>  get_secrets_cb(): Couldn't get connection secrets: vpn-password-dialog.c.308 (nma_vpn_request_password): canceled.
[21:50] <dupondje-> any id whats wrong ?
[21:50] <erUSUL> vigo: i know festival for text to speak
[21:50] <vigo> erUSUL: Thank you
[21:50] <zdaku> hm
[21:50] <furythor> How I can change function of alt key that it does not pop up the window related menu/functions ?
[21:51] <Wunderbar> silly question but if I wanted to browse my desktop in terminal- how would I go about that?
[21:51] <lstarnes> Wunderbar: cd ~/Desktop
[21:51] <erUSUL> chazco: http://lwn.net/Articles/92727/ <<< read the article here... there was a patch proposed to make linux work with broken routers but it was rejected to force all those broken routers to get fixed
[21:51] <jdu> Wunderbar,   cd ~/Desktop           ls
[21:51] <mobi-sheep> !shortcut | furythor
[21:51] <erUSUL> !cli | Wunderbar
[21:52] <chazco> erUSUL - Hmm okay... will probably install 7.10 (i think it was) for using the internet then for now. Not ideal, but its a possible solution...
[21:52] <erUSUL> chazco: i suppose that windows just implemented a workaround
[21:52] <hendrixski> I can't connect to open wireless in some places, but I can in other places
[21:52] <Nana> who is floodbot ?
[21:52] <hendrixski> is that a hardware problem
[21:52] <hendrixski> or a software probleM
[21:53] <erUSUL> chazco: just disable window scaling like you are doing...
[21:53] <lstarnes> Nana: it's a bot used to restrict text floods
[21:53] <mobi-sheep> Nana: Flood something and bot will halt it.
[21:53] <jdu> chazco, 7.10?  if you have to go that old, you might check out a different distro first.
[21:53] <erUSUL> Nana: a bot (program) that avoids people flooding the channel
[21:53] <chazco> erUSUL - But that leads to a range of other problems, such as the internet periodically breaking (this is due to AOL routers)
[21:53] <JarYack> erUSUL, don't see anything useful, but pastebinned if you get a sec (I see you're quite busy :)) http://paste.ubuntu.com/178255/
[21:53] <chazco> jdu - I guess so, but used to Ubuntu
[21:54] <hendrixski> I'm on Ubuntu 9.04 and I can't connect to open wireless at some places
[21:54] <furythor> I found what I was looking for, it was in "preferences>windows" ...
[21:54] <Nana> lol
[21:54] <Administrator> This channel always seems quite hectic >.<
[21:54] <erUSUL> JarYack: do not see the connectioon attemp there...
[21:54] <Nana> administrator?
[21:54] <Nana> wtf?
[21:54] <Administrator> hendrixski: i cant connect to wired for some reason, lol
[21:54] <Wunderbar> okay, I really can't get this POS to work- the IAT instructions provided state that to convert a file one must do the following "iat  input_file [output_file.iso]"
[21:55] <Guest1862> hi, I just updated to jaunty (reinstalled actually) and I wanted to re-install amsn, but synaptic doesn't seem to find it. Anybody knows what lines should I add to my sources list?
[21:55] <Who> join #xubuntu
[21:55] <Wunderbar> needless to say this has proven absolutely useles...
[21:55] <hendrixski> Administrator, lol,  we should start a support group
[21:55] <myxo> sorry, my name was wrong
[21:55] <lstarnes> Guest1862: you just need to enable the universe repository
[21:55] <erUSUL> JarYack: that's what i get on my demsg http://paste.ubuntu.com/178260/
[21:55] <ozzmosis> can anyone here tell me if there's a program that already does this?  it's a program to rename groups of files.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/178259/  (have I reinvented the wheel?)
[21:55] <myxo> administrator is the default name on my friends windows system
[21:56] <Guest1862> Istames: It is enabled
[21:56] <myxo> Nana, it was the default name on my friends system, fixed it, Im on a friends computer because my Ubuntu cant find my wired network for some reason. Or well get it to connect
[21:56] <chazco> jdu - Any suggestions on another distro? I know it affects Debian lenny...
[21:56] <M1CH3L3> hi
[21:57] <myxo> hendrixski this is "administrator" lol that name was the default on my friends system which i am on.... strange
[21:57] <JarYack> erUSUL, ah, that wasnt in messages that was in syslog, I can paste bin that too but all I get is [ 1571.340160] wlan0: direct probe to AP f58f96b8 try 1         three times and then a timeout
[21:57] <M1CH3L3> can anyone help me with "Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Pro" (result of lsusb)
[21:57] <jdu> chazco, well, my first suggestion would be debian as I'm mostly a debian-like guy.  Perhaps fedora, openSUSE, Mandriva would be good choices.
[21:57] <mobi-sheep> !info pyrenamer | ozzmosis
[21:57] <hendrixski> myxo, that's, a bad default
[21:57] <Shubuntu> does anyone here know of a good link to download sound files for boot up? I'd like some music / nice effects please
[21:58] <myxo> hendrixski i am aware.. like impersonating a police officer, lol
[21:58] <diego__> lstarnes: It is enabled. Multiverse is also enabled
[21:58] <jdu> ozzmosis, well there is "rename" and a number of graphical batch rename programs.
[21:58] <turt3l> hello
[21:58] <chazco> jdu - Heard good things about Fedora, will try it. The bug i'm trying to work round exists in Debian too, so not really an option. Thanks :)
[21:58] <dsteinwe> hi, i have a strange behaviour after installing mythtv on ubuntu 9.04. I hear any sound but all alsa stuff looks fine. Doing "sudo -u mythtv aplay wav" works! Have anybody an idea how to fix it for the default user?
[21:58] <hendrixski> I can connect to my secured wireless network at home, and to the open wireless network but not to the open wireless at a cafe across town, and not the one at my friends house
[21:58] <erUSUL> chazco: jdu i would fail equally enabling tcp window scaling is something the kernel does so it will fail in any distribution with a recent kernel  >= 2.6.8
[21:58] <hendrixski> it's like... almost random
[21:58] <dsteinwe> *no sound*
[21:58] <hendrixski> intermitent wireless failure
[21:59] <hendrixski> has anybody come across similar things?
[21:59] <chazco> erUSUL - Ah, thanks :( Just found the thread i posted... turns out it last worked in 7.04 :D
[21:59] <hendrixski> it's really embarassing when I try to demo things for clients
[21:59] <fil> is it normal process gnome-panel to take 45mb ram?
[21:59] <erUSUL> JarYack: well i dunno... it probes but never gets a response from the ap...
[21:59] <M1CH3L3> I'M REPEATING: can anyone help me with "Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Pro" (result of lsusb)
[21:59] <guntbert> !enter | hendrixski
[21:59] <erUSUL> JarYack: maybe the ap filters MAC addresses ? or something else i really dunno
[22:00] <guntbert> !repeat | M1CH3L3
[22:00] <erUSUL> !webcam | M1CH3L3
[22:00] <jdu> erUSUL, chazco so I did miss the conversation as to why recent versions of ubuntu/debian was a problem.
[22:00] <JarYack> erUSUL, nope, alright, time to do some more bug fishing I guess. thanks for your time
[22:00] <diego__> lstarnes: I also wanted to download an add-on for Rhythmbox so I could listen internet radio. I downloaded that same add-on yesterday no problem. But now that I switched to Jaunty it doesn't seem to find it
[22:00] <erUSUL> jdu: http://lwn.net/Articles/92727/
[22:00] <fil> !patience
[22:00] <erUSUL> JarYack: no problem
[22:00] <ozzmosis> jdu / mobi-sheep: right, thanks.  I didn't know about "rename".  I've seen pyrenamer (and a bunch of other similar windows programs) but just wanted something simple I can run from the shell. :)
[22:00] <M1CH3L3> ok thanks
[22:01] <fil> is it normal process gnome-panel to take 45mb ram? I am using ubuntu 8.04.
[22:01] <chazco> jdu / erUSUL - Thanks for the help... for now i'll probably leave window_scaling as it is on Ubuntu, and use Vista when i need to access certain sites
[22:01] <Dulak> diego__: perhaps you need to enable the universe or multiverse repo to find that add-on
[22:01] <myxo> Anyone here know about IPV6 issues in Ubuntu 9.04 related to Wired Internet issues? Debating on whether to disable it or not and see if it fixes my issue.
[22:02] <vigo> myxo: There is a package in the synaptic or resources that drops down to ip4 when a web app cannot use ipv6
[22:02] <ozzmosis> fil: I suppose it's possible if you have a few applets loaded (weather, system monitor...).  45 MB seems a bit excessive though.
[22:02] <guntbert> myxo: I haven't heard of any, but it never hurts to try (if you don't need it, that is :-))
[22:02] <Demonicdata> Why does friggin firefox keep disappearing my bookmarks,adding them
[22:02] <chazco> Anyone able to recommend a wireless card (mini PCI-e) that is known to work on 9.04 with WPA? The intel 3945ABG doesnt, and support for the rtl8187se is poor...
[22:03] <jdu> chazco, as a curiosity, what sites are affected?  Also, fedora is usually one of the most cutting edge distros, so it might fix any problems the fastest.
[22:03] <ozzmosis> fil: don't know if theyre called applets btw.  thats just my name for them.  and my ' key is broken  :|
[22:03] <mobi-sheep> ozzmosis: You're hurting yourself if you are trying to do something NON-GUI all times, me think.  However, I ran a search for rename and command.  This is what came up.
[22:03] <diego__> Dulak: But it is enabled. Or at least so it seems. The box is checked for universe and multiverse
[22:03] <mobi-sheep> !info lltag | ozzmosis
[22:03] <diego__> Dulak:
[22:03] <myxo> guntbert: ive been reading on it a bit and it seems that ipv6 is used for developement... so for me i wouldnt need it i know... just not sure, i assume iĺl need to reenable it later and wondering if that will be an issue
[22:03] <chazco> jdu - Mostly parts of my uni intranet, but also with some sites online
[22:03] <fil> ozzmosis: i have nothing like that
[22:03] <dayo> how do i create a LiveUSB?
[22:03] <myxo> vigo: do you think that would help with the problem of certain ISPs and internets at colleges not working at all due to IPV6?
[22:04] <diego__> Dulak: I'll try rebooting the computer
[22:04] <mobi-sheep> ozzmosis: This also came up -- gwenrename -- id3ren -- lltag.
[22:04] <chazco> jdu - Got to go... will try a few live CDs tommorow :) Thanks, c ya
[22:04] <vigo> myxo: It certainly worked for me. yes it is a good package
[22:04] <chazco> erUSUL - Got to go, thanks for the help :)
[22:04] <jdu> good luck
[22:04] <dayo> !usb | dayo
[22:04] <mobi-sheep> ozzmosis: Good luck.  Have fun.  Me?  I stick with pyrenamer as I don't frequently rename things all times. :)
[22:04] <Demonicdata> I got a issue
[22:04] <myxo> vigo: so you had that issue with an ISP? im dealing with tiem warner at the moment
[22:05] <myxo> vigo: and honestly right now its only a guess but when i google it is ALL that comes  up
[22:05] <Demonicdata> i creat a bookmark of folder etc in firefox but when i close it and open it it is gone,firefox isn't saving my bookmarks/changes
[22:05] <jmut> hi folks. i am trying to convert screencast I made to mpeg4     but when I try    ffmpeg -i ~/out.mpg -ar 22050 blah.mp4          I get Unsupported codec for output     .   Any clue which package I need for this?
[22:05] <erUSUL> chazco: no problem
[22:05] <vigo> myxo: Mine was just certain sites, .gov and stuff, my ISP already has it implemented.
[22:06] <ozzmosis> mobi-sheep: I know what you mean.  it wasn't just for renaming mp3s, although I have sometimes used it for that.  and it's great on servers where X is just not there.  but the advantage to me was that I could use any text editor (I like Jed, and GEdit is nice too) to edit the names of the new files.  the code will also run anywhere Python runs :)
[22:06] <guntbert> Demonicdata: is it possible that you started FF (once) with sudo?
[22:06] <vigo> myxo: I used that package and it solved or corrected any issues.
[22:06] <LuisJa> i got a huge problem: i have a ps3, i like to play music with it, all my other music than i downloaded its from vista and works well, but 3 than i downloaded wtih linux, the ps3 says: not compatible, and its mp3, WTH???? i need help pls
[22:06] <erUSUL> jmut: you probably the ffmpeg binaries from medibuntu to get mp4 support due to patent issues
[22:06] <erUSUL> !medibuntu | jmut
[22:06] <myxo> vigo: ah, i am just very uncertain of everything as i only lost my "Linuxginity" less than a week ago haha. i took the plunge and am eager to learn everything i can, i have to follow walkthroughs to do anything such as disabling IPV6 etc, the problem for me would be that since i cannot connect to the internet i would be unable to get the package anyway....
[22:07] <mobi-sheep> jmut: VLC can do conversions too.  Just a thought.
[22:07] <myxo> vigo: unless i went somewhere with wireless then came back
[22:07] <ozzmosis> LuisJa: are you saying you have three mp3s that play under linux but not on your ps3?
[22:07] <jmut> erUSUL: mobi-sheep thank you
[22:07] <myxo> vigo: perhaps if i took the steps to disable it i could then obtain the package to step it down then reenable it?
[22:07] <LuisJa> exactly
[22:08] <vigo> myxo: hold on,I am finding the Ubuntu link for it.
[22:08] <myxo> vigo: ok
[22:08] <LuisJa> the thing is than all my other music downloaded from vista works well
[22:08] <mobi-sheep> ozzmosis: You might want to find a batch script that exists in a enraged threads of www.  I'm sure you did looked for one. :)
[22:08] <LuisJa> ozzmosis: u can help me?
[22:09] <jdu> jmut, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=786095  I believe is what I followed.
[22:09] <ozzmosis> LuisJa: there are a few programs that will 'validate' an mp3.  but it's probably just a bug with whatever ps3 software you're using.  similar to how some older set-top DVD players don't handle variable bitrate mp3s properly.  or some old generation mp3 players don't like some mono mp3 files, I'm told.
[22:10] <ozzmosis> mobi-sheep: not really.  I just wrote it to scratch an itch, and to learn Python a bit (wrote it in C originally), then wondered if anyone else had done similar. :)
[22:10] <ubuntumachine> is linux secure enough to keep sensitive data on the computer? or is it easy to hack into?
[22:10] <LuisJa> ozzmosis: i will try the programs, u got the names?
[22:10] <LuisJa> ozzmosis: and why the poblems r only with the linux downloaded mp3s and not the vista ones?
[22:10] <eseven73> ubuntumachine, it's a lot more secure than windows
[22:11] <askand> I get lots of "possible SYN flooding on port 6881. Sending cookies." in my dmesg. That happens to be my torrentport. What could I do about this?
[22:11] <ubuntumachine> eseven73, how so? does firefox expose hackers from gettting to my files?
[22:11] <myxo> i honestly wonder who has ever had issues with being "hacked into", i wonder how much of it is just paranoia.
[22:11] <jdu> ubuntumachine, linux is very secure, provided you don't configure it incorrectly.  You might enable firewalls, SELinux etc.
[22:12] <vigo> myxo: here is one> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPv6
[22:12] <ozzmosis> LuisJa: checkmp3 and mp3check came up in an apt-cache search.  disclaimer: I've never used them.  only ever used mp3utility under windows.
[22:12] <eseven73> ubuntumachine, firefox ran as regular user, shouldn't pose any threats
[22:12] <myxo> vigo: does taht step down or disable?
[22:12] <ubuntumachine> jdu, but i dont have a firewall
[22:13] <ubuntumachine> what about openbsd? i heard its the best..
[22:13] <jdu> ubuntumachine, you can enable one.  Personally, I don't bother and it is probably really not that important.
[22:13] <lstarnes> ubuntumachine: ufw is enabled by default but doesn't have any rules set by default
[22:13] <myxo> vigo: going to go read it, brb
[22:13] <Phoenix87> nite!
[22:13] <ubuntumachine> hmmm
[22:13] <ozzmosis> myxo: well, there are automated bots that probe IP ranges looking for easy ssh targets (eg. allowing root login with guessable passwords).  ubuntu has ssh disabled by default so that fixes that, I guess.  but often if you're "hacked", it's by someone you know.
[22:14] <vigo> myxo: and another, just bookmark them, read later. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[22:14] <jdu> ubuntumachine, openbsd may be what you want, but if it is like other bsds in my experience, it would be less than easy to set up.
[22:14] <ubuntumachine> i just hear stories of people losing data and getting it stolen...so i wanna make sure ubuntu is good that hackers have a hard time getting in
[22:14] <myxo> ozzmosis: i could see the second option
[22:14] <myxo> ozzmosis: very common i assume
[22:14] <ozzmosis> myxo: indeed
[22:14] <IndyGunFreak> ubuntulog: well, your network is only as secure as you make it.. are you behind a properly configured router/firewall?
[22:14] <ubuntumachine> jdu, i came from a fbsd back ground..its pretty easy for me..but i did have issues with it
[22:15] <ubuntumachine> IndyGunFreak, was that for me?
[22:15] <IndyGunFreak> ubuntumachine: yes
[22:15] <IndyGunFreak> sorry
[22:15] <ubuntumachine> i am behind a router
[22:15] <doc_brown> how do you re-string an acoustic guitar?
[22:15] <IndyGunFreak> ubuntumachine: well, thats your first line of defense... make sure your router is set up properly.
[22:15] <ozzmosis> doc_brown: in ubuntu?
[22:15] <myxo> vigo: iĺl save them, i dont mean to be impatient, im not, im just curious what this has to do with my current issue, i do want to educate myself about it. but i also want the wired connection in ubuntu 9.04 to work so i can do said education on my own machine
[22:15] <tritium> doc_brown: please stay on topic
[22:15] <ozzmosis> doc_brown: apt-get install strings
[22:15] <ozzmosis> ...
[22:16] <mobi-sheep> myxo | ubuntumachine:  Security on Ubuntu --> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/security
[22:16] <panfist> i have inserted a media card via USB but ubuntu is not picking it up automatically...how can i mount it? it doesnt look like anything extra appears in /dev when i insert it
[22:16] <doc_brown> ozzloy, thanks bro!
[22:16] <ubuntumachine> IndyGunFreak, oh ok
[22:16] <doc_brown> ozzmosis, thanks bro!
[22:16] <ozzloy> doc_brown, er... no problem?
[22:16] <ubuntumachine> well thanks everyone for your input :)
[22:16] <ozzloy> heh
[22:16] <ubuntumachine> i greatly appreciate it :)
[22:16] <ozzmosis> ozzloy :)
[22:16] <IndyGunFreak> ubuntumachine: but that goes for Linux, Windows, Mac, whatever.. (at least in my opinion).. if you're gonna have an always on connection, you need to be behind a router
[22:17] <ubuntumachine> IndyGunFreak, well most people i know are all behind a router
[22:17] <LuisJa> ozzmosis: http://jo.ath.cx/soft/mp3check/ thats the link to download mp3check, whose of those i donwload?
[22:17] <IndyGunFreak> ubuntumachine: i'm amazed how often i find people are not.
[22:17] <ozzmosis> LuisJa: just apt-get install mp3check
[22:17] <vigo> myxo: Totally understand, we are all learning or we are wasting time. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessAccessPoint
[22:17] <LuisJa> oh damn true
[22:18] <ubuntumachine> IndyGunFreak, good point
[22:18] <chetnick> Why behind router?
[22:18] <myxo> vigo: that is your package you mentionedś guide?
[22:18] <lyrae> Is it possible to store custom objects/data with a grid row?
[22:18] <ozzmosis> lyrae: is that a ubuntu question?
[22:19] <doc_brown> i installed a pdf tool last night, and need help starting the program.  the only way i know to start it, is to navigate to the folder where I unzipped it, and run 'java -jar pdfsam-1.1.2.jar' how can i set up an easier way either in menu or alt+f2?
[22:19] <chazco> Hi... quick question, is it possible to restore the old GDM login screen on 9.04?
[22:19] <chetnick> That is JAVA
[22:19] <chetnick> :)
[22:19] <lyrae> ozzmosis: no, wrong channel, sorry
[22:19] <lyrae> and its wxwidgets =p
[22:19] <lyrae> sorry again
[22:19] <lyrae> xchat is all slow
[22:19] <ozzmosis> np lyrae :)
[22:19] <chetnick> lyrae: tha answer is yes.
[22:19] <vigo> myxo: They are listed in Synaptic, let me try and find that pkg in terminal.
[22:19] <ubuntumachine> ohhhhh... one more question :)
[22:19] <chazco> doc_brown - You can create a launcher with that command line (right click panel, add-to-panel, custom application launcher)
[22:19] <mobi-sheep> chetnick: Firewall.  By connecting directly to the cable modem, your machine is using your external IP for Internet.  Using a router give you a private/local IP and often would need to set up port forward if you wish to access into your machine.
[22:19] <ubuntumachine> oh never mind..i already tried it and didnt work
[22:20] <myxo> vigo: my problem is how will this help me pre-internet? can i get it on this windows machine and xfer it through a thumb drive?
[22:20] <ozzmosis> ubuntumachine: ask anyway :)
[22:20] <Demonicdata> it seems that my .mozilla files was read only for some reason,changed at some point
[22:20] <Demonicdata> I wonder what did it
[22:20] <ubuntumachine> well....i have an external hard drive..and it was oringinaly used on a mac...but i didnt format it just used it..but linux can open the files but cant save to it...permsision problems..
[22:21] <jefinc> Anyone here know how to get multipul audio streams to work? ie.: firefox and rhythmbox... I have alsa-oss but still can not get it work, any suggestions?
[22:21] <ozzmosis> Demonicdata: I've had that happen in freebsd .. where I installed firefox and .mozilla/ ended up owned by root
[22:21] <chetnick> mobi-sheep: Isnt the firewall sufficient for that? I dont see the need for router if he has only one machine on the LAN.
[22:21] <dbu> Hi, does anyone know how to get fglrx to work with Jaunty, I have been unsuccessful
[22:21] <poseidon> Anyone know of a good tutorial on setting up wine to work well with steam and tf2?
[22:22] <jimcooncat> myxo, I haven't been following the conversation, but you should be able to put a .deb on a thumb drive. Only problem is if it has dependencies, you'll have to schlepp back to windows to grab them, too.
[22:22] <vigo> myxo: It will disable ipv6, which many carriers are nit yet up to par with and keep ipv4 running. to xfer to a win box, the ipv4 is nigh on flawless. but that also can be disabled if need calls for it.
[22:22] <ozzmosis> ubuntumachine: maybe it's formatted as HFS .. I'm not sure the Linux kernel has write support for HFS.
[22:22] <myxo> jimcooncat: ah. my problem is that wired internet isnt working, ive been googling and seeing many ISPs arent "with it" yet so i thought i may need to disable it, vigo had a similar issue and said he fixed it with a package, however the lack of internet presents an issue there
[22:23] <Demonicdata> ozzmosis:the weird thing is at first it wasn't so i had a few old bookmarks set.at some point it switched to read only.i just took the entire .mozilla and switched it to read/write permission for this account,I imagine there isn't any real danger other then accidentally deleting files in the .mozilla folder
[22:23] <ubuntumachine> ozzloy, dont know..i got something about table errors
[22:23] <ozzmosis> ubuntumachine: ok, dunno what that's about
[22:23] <Demonicdata> anyone here ever run bleachbits as root?
[22:24] <doc_brown> Demonicdata, i do that all the time
[22:24] <ubuntumachine> ozzloy, yeah..thats why i decided not to ask....i tried like 5 things and nothing works but only the mac....
[22:24] <ubuntumachine> ozzmosis,
[22:24] <ubuntumachine> ozzmosis, thanks though :)
[22:24] <ozzmosis> ozzloy is quietly wishing I wasn't using this nick ;)
[22:25] <vigo> myxo: those pages I showed you explain step by step how to enable/disable the ipv packages.
[22:25] <ozzmosis> ubuntumachine: are you using x-chat by any chance?
[22:25] <ubuntumachine> ozzmosis, yes..i usually auto tab the names
[22:25] <myxo> vigo: hopefully i can get it, i AM new.. and not very confident in my abilities yet
[22:25] <Demonicdata> doc_brown you run bleachbits as root?
[22:25] <doc_brown> Demonicdata, yeah, why not?
[22:25] <LuisJa> ozzmosis: i downloaded mp3check with konsole, but i search ins aplications and nothing :S
[22:26] <vigo> myxo: The package name is 6tunnel
[22:26] <ozzmosis> ubuntumachine: there's an option there to auto-complete most recently used nicks
[22:26] <myxo> vigo: thanks
[22:26] <doc_brown> anyone able to help me create a custom application launcher?
[22:26] <sina> Ubuntu doesn't feel like reading blank DVDs, help!
[22:26] <thelinx> How can I change the default application to launch for a filetype using the commandline?
[22:26] <Demonicdata> doc_brown was just worried something might happen.cool going to do it right now.btw i see it only has "overwrite file" and no secure algorithims like ccleaner,do you know of any way to improve my security,like is there a plugin or something you do?most people here don' know about bleachbits even
[22:26] <ozzmosis> LuisJa: like I said, I've never used them, I just know they exist
[22:26] <andreiutzu14> who speaks with me in private?
[22:27] <ozzmosis> LuisJa: you can probably just type mp3check from the shell
[22:27] <ubuntumachine> ozzmosis, i dont know that one
[22:27] <dbu> Hi, does anyone know how to get fglrx to work with Jaunty, I have been unsuccessful
[22:27] <vigo> myxo: Open Synaptic , search ipv, 6tunnel should appear near top of the list.
[22:27] <sina> !dvd
[22:27] <doc_brown> Demonicdata, you could always NOT do things on your system that you'll want to hide later....
[22:27] <borocasso> hi
[22:27] <myxo> vigo: i will as soon as internet is working on my Ubuntu machine ;-)
[22:27] <dbu> !fglrx
[22:27] <esay> what do you think about ubuntu 9.04?
[22:28] <Demonicdata> doc_brown:haha its just for future references
[22:28] <sina> What plugins do I need to burn a avi file to a DVD
[22:28] <vigo> doc-brown: I just right click taskbar, then it has a large section on launchers.
[22:28] <doc_brown> Demonicdata, i think bleachbit is pretty safe for what you want.  If you get into too much trouble just remove your hard drive and set it on fire
[22:28] <LuisJa> ozzmosis: damn i think i will have to go to vista to download my music...
[22:28] <thelinx> How can I change the default application to launch for a filetype using the commandline?
[22:28] <ozzmosis> LuisJa: given up, already?
[22:28] <Demonicdata> :doc_brown a friends isp suspended his accoutn do to a mpaa notice,although i don't think secure deletion will resolve that it makes me think
[22:28] <panfist> in preferences > keyboard shortcuts there is something called window picker, shift+alt+up...is this a compiz feature? can i configure it so that I can use my mouse to do this?
[22:29] <doc_brown> Demonicdata, you need to look more towards moblock
[22:29] <Demonicdata> doc_brown:I think i'm going to install truecrypt later anyhow
[22:29] <doc_brown> Demonicdata, its like peerguardian for windows
[22:29] <Demonicdata> moblock?I'll look into that (no idea what it is)
[22:29] <Demonicdata> OH
[22:29] <Demonicdata> cool
[22:29] <doc_brown> Demonicdata, of course the best thing to do is be careful with copywritten material
[22:29] <Demonicdata> I'll look into that right now! i am just usuing firestarter with default settings.it sayings my brothers xbox is attacking me
[22:30] <mobi-sheep> Demonicdata: There are an option to encrypt the entire Ubuntu system (except a /boot partition) on Ubuntu Alternative Disc.
[22:30] <Demonicdata> doc_brown:I set up i2p last night,haven't configured it with bit torrent yet
[22:30] <vigo> doc-brown: Right click a task bar, then Add to Panel,. a list shows up of stuff that can be used, there is also a command line, app name % or something to make a custom ;auncher, that can be found in preferences.Main Menu
[22:30] <LuisJa> ozzmosis: another idea? is horribly boring to change from OS to OS, but if the music downloaded from linux its mp3 and not compatible, and vista viceversa, what other thing i can do?
[22:30] <Demonicdata> mobi-sheep:yes but i trust truecrypt i imagine its better then the default encryption
[22:30] <Demonicdata> mobi-sheep:truecrypt does the boot partition
[22:30] <doc_brown> vigo, thanks, can you give me an example.  i have the command right, but not the location
[22:31] <thelinx> How can I change the default application to launch for a filetype using the terminal?
[22:31] <sina> can anyone help me with burning a dvd?
[22:31] <doc_brown> vigo, right now i must navigate to /usr/local/share and run java -jar pdfsam-1.1.2.jar in order to launch my program (pdfsam)
[22:31] <Dulak> LuisJa: it's not a compatibility problem, it's that mp3 codecs are patented, so they aren't free, in linux you have to download the codecs seperately, since in most countries they are illegal if you didn't pay for them, and linux didn't pay for them since it's free
[22:32] <ozzmosis> Dulak: that's not LuisJa's issue
[22:32] <vigo> doc-brown: This is the best sight I can give, it explains that stuff much better than I can type it: http://linuxcommand.org/ <<about three pages in
[22:32] <doc_brown> vigo, thanks i will read
[22:32] <ozzmosis> Dulak: he is saying mp3s downloaded (somehow) using linux don't play on his ps3, but the same mp3s downloaded (again, somehow - unspecified) using vista do play on his ps3
[22:33] <Dulak> ozzmosis: that doesn't make any sense at all
[22:33] <ubuntumachine> ozzmosis, have you used remix on a desktop before?
[22:33] <ozzmosis> LuisJa: you need to validate the mp3s are correct.  and if you want more help, explain to us what you are doing to download the mp3s in linux.
[22:33] <ozzmosis> ubuntumachine: what's that?
[22:33] <ozzmosis> Dulak: I know
[22:34] <Demonicdata> OD DAM IT
[22:34] <Demonicdata> GOD
[22:34] <Demonicdata> even
[22:34] <FloodBot1> Demonicdata: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:34] <doc_brown> Demonicdata, whats wrong?
[22:34] <thelinx> How can I change the default application to launch for a filetype using the terminal?
[22:34] <ubuntumachine> ozzmosis, and i thought you were a REAL ubuntu user :P
[22:34] <Demonicdata> even though i reset permissions on .mozilla and it worked for a few minutes,something reset the permissions to read only and even reset it to the condition firefox was in before?!
[22:34] <ozzmosis> ubuntumachine: I've been using it 2 weeks.  freebsd for about 10 years though.
[22:34] <ubuntumachine> ozzmosis, its the interface for lappys
[22:35] <mzz> Demonicdata: curious. Are you running firefox as root for whatever reason (don't)?
[22:35] <ubuntumachine> fbsd.....ahhh....i remember those days
[22:35] <mzz> Demonicdata: and what file is getting its permissions changed?
[22:35] <ozzmosis> ubuntumachine: os/2 for 5 years and windows for 20.  but enough about that ;)
[22:35] <mobi-sheep> mzz: The .mozilla directory.
[22:35] <ubuntumachine> lol
[22:35] <mzz> mobi-sheep: what, all of it
[22:36] <mobi-sheep> mzz: From the looks of it.
[22:36] <ubuntumachine> i wonder if anyone ever got remix to wrok on a desktop
[22:36] <mzz> Demonicdata, mobi-sheep: how are you checking?
[22:36] <Demonicdata> the entire .mozilla file
[22:36] <Demonicdata> but i see i wasn't making the changes as root
[22:36] <Demonicdata> I guess i'll do it in terminal
[22:37] <ozzmosis> Demonicdata: chmod -R +w ~/.mozilla/
[22:37] <ozzmosis> Demonicdata: I think that's what you want
[22:37] <Demonicdata> is there a way to change permissions in the folder(and ubfolder) threw the gui?i right click and go to permission but it doesn't set when i say apply
[22:38] <mzz> Demonicdata: is this ownership or permissions? For ownership I'd run something like "sudo chown -R you ~/.mozilla"
[22:38] <myxo> so confused, why would 9.04 have IPV6 enabled and such when its not going to be widely implemented for years and it would cause problems for the casual user like me? learning.
[22:38] <mzz> Demonicdata: (be careful! chowning things outside of your ~ to you is unhealthy)
[22:38] <ozzmosis> Demonicdata: you won't be able to change the rwx permissions if it's owned by root
[22:39] <mobi-sheep> myxo: To get out of the problem.  Ubuntu should check for IPv6 and if nothing, resort back to IPv5.
[22:39] <mzz> myxo: is it really causing serious problems? It's not supposed to (if it's not available) afaik.
[22:39] <mobi-sheep> Err.. IPv4.  It's a simple if-else.
[22:39] <ozzmosis> myxo: optimism? ;)
[22:39] <LuisJa> ozzmosis: ok, let me explain from zero: from vista  i download things from google, eveything allright, i have a sony ericsson w580, in linux i download the mp3s from google like in vista, i copy the 3  mp3s of linux from my pc to my SE, i connected the w580 to the ps3s, the wrong here is than the things downloaded from vista, all good, the 3 from linux, all bad :S
[22:39] <omorth> While installing ubuntu, I was a bit adventerous and resized windows to 350gb (300gb) was used. About 150gb freed. It's been about 30 minutes and I am wondering if it should take this long.
[22:39] <phw_> How can I attach my linux box to a serial console (as a client)?
[22:39] <eseven73> Demonicdata, Thunar seems to handle GUI permissions better than Nautilus, sudo apt-get install thunar, then gksudo thunar, but yea be careful with that
[22:39] <thelinx> How can I change the default application to launch for a mime type using the terminal?
[22:39] <mzz> myxo: it's an annoying chicken and egg problem. If ipv6 is not available on mainstream operating systems it'll never get offered by isps and the like at all...
[22:40] <Demonicdata> it says i own the file,creat and delete!but i change the info in the permission tab to include "read and write" permissions and hit apply it resets.
[22:40] <myxo> mzz: my 9.04 sees my wired connection but thats pretty much all i can say for it.  mobi-sheep: ive no idea honestly ozzmosis: whats optimism!!!! (lol)
[22:40] <Demonicdata> So let me ask you all,how am i supposed to apply settings in permission tab?
[22:40] <doc_brown> i am trying to make a custom application launcher, and i need to run the command from a specific location (i think) I have started the "add to panel' process, but am having issues with the location.  usually i navigate to /usr/local/share and run java -jar pdfsam-1.1.2.jar how can i make this easier?
[22:40] <mzz> Demonicdata: what is this "it" that is saying things, and what exactly is it saying them about? :)
[22:40] <coz_> Demonicdata,  you right clicked the file to change permissioins?
[22:40] <myxo> mzz: i would think if windows xp can simply see a wired connection and say... hey its internet lets go to google! why cant ubuntu?
[22:40] <mzz> Demonicdata: can you pastebin "ls -ld ~/.mozilla" (assuming that's the affected folder)?
[22:41] <mzz> myxo: a bug, but not necessarily an ipv6-related one
[22:41] <mobi-sheep> omorth: You don't want to quit Gparted while it's doing something.  That will result in a corrupted filesystem.  Well, 350 GB is a big and long thing to work with.
[22:41] <ozzmosis> myxo: sort of like the PPP client in FreeBSD checks for IPv6 support even though most ISPs don't support it.  but it's mostly harmless, cos IPv4 fallback usually just works.
[22:41] <Demonicdata> eseven73:thanks i'm getting that now
[22:41] <ozzmosis> myxo: + by default
[22:41] <LuisJa> ozzmosis: when i say all bad, i mean than the tracks r mp3, but r not compatible, and obviously mp3 is compatible with ps3 player...
[22:41] <myxo> mzz: i tmight not even be my problem, it just seems very prominent
[22:41] <omorth> mobi-sheep: that is what I thought, and it doesn't seem to be hung, but I was concerned that there is practically no IO going on
[22:41] <tritium> !mp3 | LuisJa
[22:41] <myxo> ozzmosis: im not even sure if its my problem, all i know now is that i connect the internet to my friends machine, works, connect to mine, nothing..
[22:42] <ozzmosis> LuisJa: I see!  well, my guess is there's something not right with copying the files from linux to your phone.
[22:42] <Demonicdata> coz:yeah there is a permission tab in gnome that should let me reset everything.it doesn't prompt me for my password it just resets back to default like a rubber band
[22:42] <LuisJa> LOL
[22:42] <ozzmosis> LuisJa: I assume that's a phone.  who knows these days.
[22:42] <mobi-sheep> omorth: I know.  GParted lack in user feedback.  We don't know what's actually happening. :(
[22:42] <LuisJa> oh yes, its a phone lol
[22:42] <eseven73> Demonicdata, thunar is lighter weight than Nautilus too, it's actually the default filemanager in xubuntu/xfce if im not mistaking
[22:43] <ozzmosis> LuisJa: tried copying something else to it?  a jpeg?
[22:43] <LuisJa> nop
[22:43] <coz_> Demonicdata,   you would have to open with with sudo  or su
[22:43] <Demonicdata> how do you sudo in gnome?
[22:43] <LuisJa> and the vista track r from my Memory stick lol
[22:43] <mobi-sheep> omorth: But in my experiences, I never see Gparted acting up.  I wouldn't want to experience one either.  I'm sure it's just taking time.
[22:43] <ozzmosis> Demonicdata: gksudo
[22:43] <omorth> mobi-sheep: I'm looking directly at the ntfsresize process, it's swapping wait states so it doesn't seem to be frozen
[22:43] <coz_> Demonicdata,  gksudo location/nameof file
[22:43] <tritium> LuisJa: spell it out.  The word is "are", not the letter "r"
[22:43] <Demonicdata> eseven:so this is a different file manager,how just gksudo thunar will change over to that filemanager?no other tweaking etc
[22:44] <mobi-sheep> omorth: Alrigh.  Just give it hours. :)
[22:44] <livingdaylight> coz_: hi!
[22:44] <Demonicdata> coz:yeah but this is part of the gnome gui
[22:44] <LuisJa> this is like college too dude? ok...
[22:44] <panfist> i'm trying to use ccsm to configure compiz, but when i type ccsm in a terminal it says it's not installed, and it's not in synaptic either
[22:44] <omorth> mobi-sheep: better than losing data :)
[22:44] <coz_> livingdaylight,  hey guy
[22:44] <LuisJa> are :)
[22:44] <mobi-sheep> omorth: Indeed. :)
[22:44] <tritium> It takes 0.02 seconds longer to add in the rest of the letters
[22:44] <eseven73> are is two letters different than r, why not just type it out?
[22:44] <ozzmosis> LuisJa: IRC is hard.
[22:44] <coz_> Demonicdata,   sorry I did not read your posts from the beginning
[22:44] <LuisJa> srry i use too much messenger
[22:44] <LuisJa> btw it sucks u cant use new MSN with wine...
[22:45] <LuisJa> that msn rocks
[22:45] <eseven73> that goes for 'u' too!
[22:45] <LuisJa> and hard
[22:45] <Paddy_EIRE> I hate msn
[22:45] <ozzmosis> !offtopic
[22:45] <LuisJa> LOL
[22:45] <ozzmosis> ;)
[22:45] <livingdaylight> coz_: i want to make a gesture to open a certain page at will... is that a command or key or?
[22:45] <mobi-sheep> LuisJa: Use Pidgin.
[22:45] <Dr_Willis> !ccsm | panfist
[22:45] <coz_> livingdaylight,  a certain page?  in which appliction
[22:45] <Demonicdata> hmm strange,thunar says i have read/write permissions, is the .mozilla folder of the home directory the correct area?or is there another mozilla somewhere
[22:46] <LuisJa> msn is best looking :)
[22:46] <LuisJa> w/e
[22:46] <Artanis00> When I try to connect to an encrypted WiFi, the network connections window takes the password and then fails to connect. When the password window comes back, it has a hex string in place of the password I typed. Is there a way to not have it transform the password like that?
[22:46] <livingdaylight> coz_: i'm sorry... of course - in firefox
[22:46] <LuisJa> i think u r right and there is something wrong copying from linux to my w580
[22:46] <BlindToSoundNG> Hey, I'm using Ubuntu 8.10 LTS and I'm using two monitors. They're working as they should, but the bottom bar where the tasks are shown is only showing the tasks on the main monitor, not the secondary. How do I fix this?
[22:46] <livingdaylight> coz_: say youtube or in my case wordreference
[22:46] <LuisJa> but what it can be??
[22:46] <coz_> livingdaylight,  mmm that one I havent tried  give me a few minutes I am compiling right now
[22:46] <eseven73> should only be one .mozilla in /home/demonicdata/   it's hidden (if you didn't already know that)  :D
[22:46] <panfist> thanks dr_willis
[22:47] <mobi-sheep> Artanis00: It's just a hexstring of the password.  It's there for your benefits (And for others too).
[22:47] <LuisJa> and those 3 mp3s are my favorite right now lol...
[22:47] <livingdaylight> coz_: sorry, mate... no worries - whenever
[22:47] <Demonicdata> eseven:yeah thats the one i'v been working with
[22:47] <Demonicdata> dang didn't work
[22:47] <eseven73> Demonicdata, using gksudo thunar yea?
[22:47] <Demonicdata> It says i have read/write permission but my firefox keeps resetting to the same default state,no book marks or changes are being fixed
[22:47] <ozzmosis> Demonicdata: is the problem that firefox is broken?  I'd be doing: mv .mozilla/ .mozilla-backup/
[22:47] <Demonicdata> eseven73:yeah I did that
[22:47] <Shreyansh> Hi, Upon compiling linux kernel am getting "<0>kernel panic- not syncing: Attempted to kill init" with some stack. Can anybody help?
[22:47] <Demonicdata> hmm i just have a bunch of plugins for firefox.
[22:48] <Artanis00> mobi-sheep: yeah, but it's not connecting. I don't think it's using the password I typed to connect, but the hex string instead.
[22:48] <ozzmosis> Demonicdata: ie. start firefox with no config file
[22:48] <eseven73> Demonicdata, yea try a new profile
[22:48] <pierpaolo> list
[22:48] <pierpaolo> list
[22:48] <BlindToSoundNG> Anyone? ._.
[22:48] <coz_> livingdaylight,  ok
[22:48] <mobi-sheep> Artanis00: It's possible that it saved the first password (as in a first wrong typo password).
[22:48] <Demonicdata> I'm just going to uninstall firefox from synaptic and reinstall all the drivers it shouldn't take that long really
[22:48] <LuisJa> ozzmosis: something to fix that "i copy bad" error?
[22:49] <ozzmosis> Demonicdata: that sounds... excessive
[22:49] <coz_> livingdaylight,   I tried this and this is what you need to do  you open firefox to the link you want to use
[22:49] <Dr_Willis> Demonicdata:  uninstilling firefox will not cleanout/memove the users setting files.
[22:49] <ozzmosis> LuisJa: I don't understand you
[22:49] <coz_> livingdaylight,  then create another action     Command   and the command   is   firefox  http: yourlink
[22:49] <doc_brown> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7329016#post7329016
[22:50] <Demonicdata> I did a clean removal of firefox in friggin synaptic and yet firefox is still there
[22:50] <ozzmosis> Demonicdata: also, what Dr_Willis said
[22:50] <LuisJa> [17:42] <ozzmosis> LuisJa: I see!  well, my guess is there's something not right with copying the files from linux to your phone." u r so right, some way to fix that than u know?
[22:50] <ozzmosis> Demonicdata: where?
[22:50] <BlindToSoundNG> Can anyone help me, please?
[22:50] <lu6cifer> why does my /dev/sda3 not show up in gparted, but every other partition does?
[22:51] <Demonicdata> there is a firefox listing in add/remove programs also
[22:51] <mobi-sheep> !ask | BlindToSoundNG
[22:51] <matreya6> Can someone help out with VLC? Used to play wine without problems, now VLC crashes after opening scene, or right after you select an option in the main menu. The only clue I got when playing it from the terminal was: "Invalid instruction". I am using VLC 0.9.9a (std version) on Ubuntu 9.04
[22:51] <Demonicdata> This package ships the Firefox branding bits. If you remove this package your user experience will become that of the abrowser
[22:51] <Demonicdata> This package ships the Firefox branding bits. If you remove this package your user experience will become that of the abrowser.
[22:51] <BlindToSoundNG> mobi-sheep - I already asked the question.
[22:51] <terje> hi, how can I get my ubuntu desktop to *not* start X11?
[22:51] <Demonicdata> What does that mean "abrowser" it won't let me uninstall
[22:51] <ozzmosis> terje: disable gdm
[22:51] <terje> thanks!
[22:52] <mobi-sheep> BlindToSoundNG: Say it again.  I'm not going to scroll up.
[22:52] <BlindToSoundNG> Haha, alright.
[22:52] <Dr_Willis> Demonicdata:  ubuntu has a few firefox 'theme' packages/addon packages installed by default.  one of those is proberly what you are seeing.. and 'abrowser' looks like a typo to me.
[22:52] <ozzmosis> LuisJa: of course.  everything can be fixed....
[22:52] <Paddy_EIRE> hey Dr_Willis
[22:52] <Dr_Willis> Howdy Paddy_EIRE
[22:52] <Dr_Willis> abrowser - meta package for the unbranded abrowser
[22:52] <Dr_Willis> looks like 'abrowser
[22:52] <matreya6> Can someone help out with VLC playing DVD Video? Used to play wine without problems, now VLC crashes after opening scene, or right after you select an option in the main menu. The only clue I got when playing it from the terminal was: "Invalid instruction". I am using VLC 0.9.9a (std version) on Ubuntu 9.04 64Bits
[22:53] <Dr_Willis> looks like 'abrowser' - firefox without the ff logo/stuff
[22:53] <|ntegra|> LuisJa: the only problem with those mp3's is that they are "VariableBitRate" and can't play in certain players , but "ConstantBitRate" will play on anything > I think anyhows
[22:53] <ozzmosis> matreya6: sounds like a bug
[22:53] <Demonicdata> hmm it seems there is another listening in synapetic for firefox
[22:53] <Demonicdata> probably installed double when i updated it or something
[22:53] <Paddy_EIRE> matreya6: why did you install vlc using wine?
[22:53] <Dr_Willis> Demonicdata:  thats.. sort of doubtfull.. but im not sure what your actual/original problem is.
[22:53] <BlindToSoundNG> mobi-sheep: Well, I'm using Ubuntu 8.10 with dual monitors. They works as they should, but the bottom task bar only shows the programs that are on the main screen ( currently just mIRC through Wine ) but not the programs on the secondary monitor ( currently: Firefox and a Pidgin IM window, both of which are not shown on the taskbar. )
[22:54] <mobi-sheep> Paddy_EIRE: I'm anxiety to find out the answer too. >_>
[22:54] <matreya6> ozzmosis, yes it does, but funny thing is: Totem has the same behaviour (also crashing)
[22:54] <Demonicdata> ok now your all sure i don't have to reboot or logout for all effects to take effect?because i'm going to reinstall firefox
[22:54] <coz_> livingdaylight,   did you get that?
[22:54] <LuisJa> so... that means? u know, i am not expert, i am just expert hearing electro
[22:54] <Dr_Willis> Demonicdata:  im not sure that anyone knoew what you are doing actually.... :)
[22:54] <LuisJa> if u ask me how electro works... thats another thing lol
[22:54] <mobi-sheep> BlindToSoundNG: Oh that.... Right-click on the panel (of second monitor) and add Windows List.  :<
[22:54] <matreya6> Paddy_EIRE, Why would you think I used Wine for VLC install? I use the native Ubuntu 9.0.4 package.
[22:55] <mobi-sheep> BlindToSoundNG: There are a linux software for pretty much everything.  Use xchat instead of miRc through Wine. :)
[22:55] <ozzmosis> matreya6: might be an issue with the 64-bit build?  you could try smplayer, but that probably uses the same libraries as VLC and Totem.  worth a shot.
[22:55] <Paddy_EIRE> matreya6: re-read your original question mate :)
[22:55] <eseven73> Demonicdata, restarting the computer is kind of a Windows Crazy Thing(TM)
[22:55] <BlindToSoundNG> mobi-sheep: There's no panel on the second monitor, but the main.
[22:56] <Dr_Willis> BlindToSoundNG:  make a new panel, drag it to the other one . via  alt-click onit.  drag it over...
[22:56] <matreya6> Paddy_EIRE, So you are right...Ignore the part about wine, I'm not using Wine to play DVD's.
[22:56] <Demonicdata> your right when i reinstalled it after complete removal it still is the dam same
[22:56] <BlindToSoundNG> Dr_Willis: But you see, I don't want to have a panel on the second monitor, just the first.
[22:56] <Paddy_EIRE> matreya6: hmm.. you installed via the repositories?
[22:57] <mobi-sheep> BlindToSoundNG: If you want Windows List to appear on second monitor, you'll need to add a new panel from an existing one (New Panel).  Drag it to second monitor and add the Windows list.
[22:57] <Dr_Willis> BlindToSoundNG:  so dont drag one over there then.. :^)  drag any  that are there.. to the other monitor.
[22:57] <LuisJa> ozzmosis: so if eveything can be fixed here... u know a way?
[22:57] <matreya6> Paddy_EIRE, Of course, no beta stuff or so.
[22:57] <Dr_Willis> BlindToSoundNG:  when i first enabled 'twinview' the panels streatched acrtoss both monitors.. Until i restarted X.. if thats the issue...
[22:57] <ozzmosis> LuisJa: not by me, I'm about to eat breakfast.  good luck :)
[22:58] <LuisJa> well it was nice to meet u ozz, see u in vista, and thx for everything btw
[22:58] <Paddy_EIRE> matreya6: what happens exactly when you try to play a dvd using vlc?
[22:58] <wildc4rd> After some help with a printing problem, have a Brother DCP-145C on 9.04, works fine in ubuntu, is detected over the network by windows machine, shows 'ready' but print jobs never leave the windows machine spool
[22:58] <LuisJa> but it seems 3 mp3s win me lol
[22:58] <LuisJa> bye
[22:59] <ryan__> is there anyway to access itunes music shares in rhythmbox?
[22:59] <ryan__> i tried adding a DAAP share from my windows box
[22:59] <gamepockets> Need some network help....
[23:00] <Dr_Willis> wildc4rd:  i recall ages ago once having to give the windows users a samba password(sudo smbpasswd -a USERNAME) , and an account on the linux box (with same username, as the windows box)  But i dont recall having to do that the last time i set up my home lan on ubuntu/windows.
[23:00] <terje> so I have installed Jaunty on a dell desktop.
[23:00] <linxeh> yey!
[23:00] <linxeh> :)
[23:01] <mobi-sheep> !yay | terje
[23:01] <ryan__> are you trying to print to a windows machine from ubuntu??
[23:01] <matreya6> Paddy_EIRE, it plays the opening video (company blurb, copy prtection blurb etc), then just crashes. Everything used to play fine until a few days ago. All my settings are default. With another DVD, it plays the main menu and after I select the item in the menu to play the movie it crashes.
[23:01] <panfist> i have inserted a usb drive, but nothing happened. how can i mount it manually
[23:01] <eseven73> !who | ryan__
[23:01] <toldiq> hi i have probolem wth irda
[23:01] <terje> When I boot from the HD, grub loads but won't boot at all. I get a blinking cursor. However, if I boot from the install CD and select 'boot from first harddrive' it boots off the hard disk just fine. What could be the problem I wonder?
[23:01] <bbryant> myxo: there's no harm in disabling something
[23:01] <Paddy_EIRE> matreya6: that sounds very strange indeed
[23:01] <BlindToSoundNG> mobi-sheep: I don't think you're understanding me. I want the 2nd monitor's window list to be on the 1st monitor's panel.
[23:01] <Jkessler> I'm trying to set up jaunty with an 80 gb drive for the system/swap and two 1tb drives in Raid 1 mirroring.  Is there a tutorial anywhere describing how to set this up?
[23:01] <toldiq> i found a patch but i do'n know how to patch
[23:01] <bbryant> I hate being scrolled up and reading things hours old
[23:01] <myxo> bbryant: if i can figure it out...
[23:02] <gamepockets> does anyone know how to transfer files between a win laptop and xubuntu mac?
[23:02] <matreya6> Paddy_EIRE, The same DVD's play without a hitch on my MacBook (running OSX)
[23:02] <tomek> #raciborz
[23:02] <bbryant> gamepockets: the easiest way is to use winscp
[23:02] <bbryant> and connect to an ssh server on the xubuntu system
[23:02] <gamepockets> is it ftp or...
[23:02] <matreya6> Paddy_EIRE, do you know where VLC might store some additional logs to pinpoint the problem?
[23:03] <myxo> i havent been able to find a guide for 9.04 disabling ipv6 yet
[23:03] <Paddy_EIRE> matreya6: and you say these worked on the same installation before
[23:03] <bbryant> gamepockets: it's file transfers done over an ssh connection
[23:03] <gamepockets> ssh?
[23:03] <Demonicdata> AGH
[23:03] <mobi-sheep> BlindToSoundNG: I don't know because I'm using a laptop and no external monitor.  You might want to ask Dr_Willis.  Windows List generally would list everything on the said monitor (for the panel).
[23:03] <Demonicdata> i fallowed someones advice and deleted the sqlite files and that didn't work either
[23:04] <matreya6> Paddy_EIRE, Yes, just a few days ago it started expressing this strange behaviour. The same thing occurs both on protected and non-protected DVD's.
[23:04] <BlindToSoundNG> That's my setup right now. Laptop with external monitor. Anyways, I'll ask Dr.
[23:05] <myxo> would the version 8 ipv6 disabling guide work on 9.04?
[23:05] <mobi-sheep> BlindToSoundNG: I understand what you're trying to do but do you think you can live with two panels, two windows list... in conjunction to their monitors?  Just a thought. :)
[23:05] <myxo> i assume not, i just dont know how different each release is
[23:06] <Xarver> Hello, I have a problem. With every web browser I try, flash isn't loading right. For example, on youtube videos I can't hear sound. And on weebls stuff the flash animation doesn't load fully. What's wrong? :(
[23:06] <BlindToSoundNG> mobi-sheep: Aww.. :(
[23:06] <matreya6> Paddy_EIRE, Hey, this is strange..., pulseaudio is not running. That might have something to do with it, or not?
[23:06] <unr3a1> hey all
[23:06] <ryan__> Xarver: how did you install flash?
[23:06] <Xarver> hi
[23:06] <BlindToSoundNG> mobi-sheep: My second monitor has very little space as it us, I don't really want to clog it up more, you know?
[23:06] <unr3a1> how can I upgrade to open office 3.1 in 9.04?
[23:06] <Paddy_EIRE> matreya6: no that would not be it.. I have been reading up on this just a sec
[23:06] <Xarver> ryan__: Of course. Otherwise the video wouldn't show at all\
[23:07] <eseven73> Xarver, he asked HOW
[23:07] <Xarver> oh
[23:07] <eseven73> ;)
[23:07] <Xarver> sorry
[23:07] <JKemp> @unr3al - Should show up in updates as it comes available...
[23:07] <Xarver> ryan__: I used the deb file or shell script from the official flash site
[23:07] <unr3a1> JKemp, and if I want to upgrade now?
[23:08] <usser> unr3a1, JKemp 3.1 wont appear in the 9.04 repos
[23:08] <Paddy_EIRE> matreya6: apparently something updated wrong or not at all like libdvdnav so... apparently if you install dvd::rip it should install all required dependencies that movie player and vlc need to play dvds.. could you try that first
[23:08] <mobi-sheep> unr3a1: Is the system updated?  You should be running OpenOffice 3.0.
[23:08] <ryan__> Xarver: maybe try installing it from the repo, i think its called flashplugin-nonfree
[23:08] <Demonicdata> there I just deleted the .mozilla. and uninstalled it all
[23:08] <usser> unr3a1, go to openoffice.org and download .debs for ubuntu
[23:08] <Xarver> ok
[23:08] <Demonicdata> then i reinstalled the top firefox(two listenings for firefox in synaptic) and it seems to work
[23:08] <unr3a1> usser: I didnt realize they had .debs available.  Thank you
[23:08] <matreya6> Paddy_EIRE, sure, I'll install DVD Rip.
[23:09] <bishop> joining
[23:09] <mobi-sheep> Xarver: Are you running Jaunty amd64?
[23:09] <Xarver> nope, 32 bit intel
[23:09] <tritium> unr3a1: better to use ubuntu -packaged .debs
[23:10] <Xarver> ryan__: Still doesn't workl
[23:10] <matreya6> Paddy_EIRE, whoa...31 packages pending...Fortunately they *are* small.
[23:10] <Paddy_EIRE> matreya6: yeah
[23:10] <unr3a1> tritium, what do you mean?
[23:10] <TheFunkbomb> anyone here?
[23:10] <Xarver> yes
[23:10] <myxo> vigo are you around?
[23:10] <sammy> trying to install on a computer previously running linux, boot hangs while talking to sda with "sda:" with different hard drives.
[23:10] <TheFunkbomb> weird.  my internet is down but IRC still works
[23:10] <ryan__> Xarver: not sure then, i installed flashplugin-nonfree and youtube works for me
[23:11] <tritium> unr3a1: I'm suggesting you use ubuntu packages of open office, not downloads from openoffiec.org
[23:11] <matreya6> Paddy_EIRE, finishing install, just a sec...
[23:11] <Xarver> ryan__: hmmm
[23:11] <myxo> thefunkbomb lol.
[23:11] <sammy> I didn't have to turn off apm or acpi when it was running gentoo, I don't assume I should need to now
[23:11] <tritium> !ooo | unr3a1
[23:11] <|ntegra|> TheFunkbomb: nice1
[23:11] <Xarver> ryan__: Youtube works but there is no sound even though my comp has sound
[23:11] <unr3a1> tritium, now why do you suggest that?
[23:11] <Xarver> But weebls stuff doesn't workl
[23:11] <TheFunkbomb> uh
[23:11] <ryan__> Xarver: you restarted firefox right?
[23:12] <Xarver> ryan__: yes, but it's all browsers
[23:12] <tritium> unr3a1: it's always preferable to use ubuntu-packaged software, to make sure it plays nicely with the package management system.
[23:12] <sammy> it gets the drive serial number, finds the geometry just fine, then locks up, no errors, can't alt-sysrq reboot
[23:12] <matreya6> Paddy_EIRE, OK, now I get a segfault, I'll pastebin the full output.
[23:12] <Xarver> ryan__: and am using opera
[23:12] <tritium> unr3a1: third parties don't always package things properly
[23:12] <sammy> if I didn't remove 'quiet' from the boot flags, it would just hang with a blinking cursor
[23:12] <myxo> it looks like i am just going to have to wait until my wireless router gets here... it shouldnt be so hard to connect to a WIRED internet connection.... for Linux sake....
[23:12] <ryan__> Xarver: hmm, im not sure, sorry i cant help. im still a beginner but im trying my best :)
[23:13] <unr3a1> is the apt-get openoffice.org 3.1 or 3.0?
[23:13] <matreya6> Paddy_EIRE, http://pastebin.ca/1431425
[23:13] <tritium> unr3a1: 3.0
[23:13] <Ultimate_darknes> !wireless
[23:13] <Paddy_EIRE> matreya6: just a moment
[23:14] <Xarver> Anyone else that can help me with my flash problem?
[23:14] <dupondje-> whats wrong with this: http://pastebin.com/d177d33c7 getting [: 6: unexpected operator
[23:14] <tritium> Xarver: you've installed it?  What is the problem?
[23:14] <JKemp> @Terminator Where u from ?
[23:14] <|ntegra|> Xarver: what is your flash problem?
[23:14] <Paddy_EIRE> matreya6: that error you pasted is a pulseaudio one
[23:14] <BlindToSoundNG> mobi-sheep: I added panel to the second monitor and added the window list. It just shows what's on the first monitor. :|
[23:14] <Xarver> tritium: all flash anims don't work... They play for 2 secs then stop. youtube videos have no sound.
[23:15] <unr3a1> tritium... alright... thanks for all the info
[23:15] <phaze74> Hi all. I need some help with reprepro. I have my own repo and I'm trying to permanently remove a package. I'm running "reprepro -b . remove jaunty packageName" in the repo directory and it says it succeeded, but when I do a apt-get update and apt-cache search I can still see the pkg. Is there another way to permanently remove packages from private repo's?
[23:15] <mobi-sheep> BlindToSoundNG: That shouldn't happen.  You're experiencing some kind of weird issue.  TwinView?
[23:15] <|ntegra|> wow, is that 8.10?
[23:15] <BlindToSoundNG> What?
[23:15] <tritium> Xarver: you installed it from flashplugin-nonfree?
[23:15] <Xarver> yes
[23:15] <ubuntumachine> anyone install E17 on 8.10????
[23:15] <Paddy_EIRE> try following this to fix pulseaudio troubles http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789578&highlight=sound+stops+working
[23:15] <Paddy_EIRE> matreya6: ^
[23:15] <Xarver> tritium: |ntegra|: I'm on Ubuntu 9.04 gnome
[23:16] <BlindToSoundNG> mobi-sheep: What's TwinView?
[23:16] <tritium> Xarver: right, but can you please answer my question?
[23:16] <Paddy_EIRE> matreya6: also a reboot maybe required
[23:16] <mobi-sheep> BlindToSoundNG: Let me find you a link.
[23:16] <BlindToSoundNG> mobi-sheep: Alrighty.
[23:16] <Xarver> tritium: I already did. I said yes. I installed it from the website
[23:16] <Xarver> and the repos
[23:16] <tritium> Xarver: please use my nick so I see your response
[23:16] <matreya6> Paddy_EIRE, A reboot? Won't a simple logout/ login not suffice?
[23:17] <phaze74> How do you guys permanently remove packages from your repositories?
[23:17] <Demonicdata> any better firewall then firestarter
[23:17] <Xarver> ...
[23:17] <Paddy_EIRE> matreya6: you may also need to redo this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs#Setting%20DVD%20Region%20Codes
[23:17] <|ntegra|> personally I dont fox with that one, I go straight to get.adobe.com and get the tgz file > the safer (iMo) ticket
[23:17] <Paddy_EIRE> matreya6: no a full reboot
[23:17] <FranVarin> is there a way to enable intel extreme graphics 2 in ubuntu 9.04?
[23:17] <tritium> Xarver: website *and* repos?  Which?  What do you currently have installed?
[23:17] <tritium> FranVarin: see the 9.04 release notes about Intel graphics drivers issues.
[23:17] <Xarver> tritium: I originally installed from website, then tried to install the plugin from the repos. Still doesn't work
[23:17] <mobi-sheep> BlindToSoundNG:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174 :)
[23:18] <FranVarin> saw the note...looked like there was a workaround. is that true?
[23:18] <mobi-sheep> BlindToSoundNG: There are few different way.  Xinerama, TwinView, etc.  TwinView is popular choice.
[23:18] <JonSnow> hello, is there a keyserver that runs on port 80? I would like to launchpad PPA's key, but the default port (11371) is blocked by a firewall.
[23:18] <Xarver> tritium: So both. But youtube and such worked before and stopped strangely.
[23:18] <matreya6> Paddy_EIRE, OK, be back after the reboot...
[23:18] <tritium> Xarver: your problem may be from something the install from the website left behind that is currently breaking the flashplugin-nonfree install
[23:18] <Paddy_EIRE> matreya6: good luck :)
[23:18] <BlindToSoundNG> mobi-sheep: My laptop's grahpics are not nvidia, though, I don't think. Just stock integrated Intel.
[23:18] <Xarver> tritium: this happened before I installed the plugin from the repos
[23:19] <M1CH3L3> can anyone help me with "Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Pro" (result of lsusb) :(
[23:19] <thebrokenbox> could I get some help here?
[23:19] <christopher> new to linux and just wanted to know how do i install programs and get nice themes
[23:19] <mobi-sheep> BlindToSoundNG: Well don't worry about that.  Look at System --> Preferences --> Display (and) System --> Administration --> NVIDIA X Server Settings.  You are likely to find choices there to play with.
[23:19] <bmh> Hii all, Can anybody help to explain for me how can I recover my hard disk partition on ubuntu
[23:20] <BlindToSoundNG> mobi-sheep: I don't see that option.
[23:20] <bmh> I have used a diskpart in win7 and suddenly clean all partiion in my HDD
[23:20] <thebrokenbox> I just have one question, I have Ubuntu and no longer need my Linux Mint partition, how can I delete that partition to gain space for Ubuntu and make sure everything still works? :)
[23:20] <bmh> How can I recovery it by using the live CD Ubuntu?
[23:20] <changerOfSea> hey, I cant get virtual-desktops to change, I was messing around with compiz a little while ago, and now it doesnt work, any ideas?
[23:20] <sammy> christopher: you can use add/remove programs to add programs. you can find that in the ubuntu menu with the rest of the already installed applications
[23:21] <changerOfSea> thebrokenbox: gpartd?
[23:21] <tritium> bmh: you lost it using a win7 utility?  Better ask in #windows, in that case.
[23:21] <Xarver> tritium: SO what do I do? :|
[23:21] <sammy> does anyone have any suggestions for a livecd locking up after finding sda?
[23:21] <christopher> thanks smmy
[23:21] <thebrokenbox> changerOfSea, is it really as simple as that? I was just worried that my GRUB would be messed up afterwards.
[23:21] <mobi-sheep> BlindToSoundNG: System --> Adminstration --> Hardware Drivers (Did you enable it?)
[23:21] <christopher> sammy*
[23:21] <bmh> Tritium: But my disk is xfs and ext3 partition format
[23:21] <tritium> Xarver: don't know.  In the future, use ubuntu packages preferntially.  Install them first, and verify if they work, before trying third-party stuff.
[23:21] <matreya6> Paddy_EIRE, I'm back. Reboot didn't work, still exactly the same problem
[23:22] <mobi-sheep> BlindToSoundNG: Also, try ALT + F2 --> "gksudo nvidia-settings"
[23:22] <changerOfSea> thebrokenbox:i think you would have to edit the grub files afterwards
[23:22] <changerOfSea> not really sure
[23:22] <amr> hey guys i am now a doctor but 10 years ago i was playing with some programing languages like some basic and C but that was along time ago i did install linux on my pc and i want to start programing again so what are the best languages to write a ubuntu gnome apps in any one can just point me plz ?
[23:22] <Demonicdata> ok firefox now works fine that i'v deleted the .mozilla and did everything from scratch
[23:22] <Paddy_EIRE> matreya6: did you follow the pulseaudio guide and the dvd region set guide I sent
[23:22] <Paddy_EIRE> matreya6: if you did that was lightning fast
[23:22] <changerOfSea> hey, I cant get virtual-desktops to change, I was messing around with compiz a little while ago, and now it doesnt work, any ideas?
[23:22] <sammy> I didn't have to send noacpi or any odd pci flag to the kernel command line when using gentoo on this box
[23:22] <thebrokenbox> changerOfSea, oh okay, well I figured simply deleting it would be the easy part, have to figure out how to mess with the GRUB settings
[23:22] <sammy> amr: try python!
[23:23] <Gnea> sammy: this isn't gentoo
[23:23] <M1CH3L3> can anyone help me with "Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Pro" (result of lsusb) :((
[23:23] <Paddy_EIRE> matreya6: both these https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs#Setting%20DVD%20Region%20Codes and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789578&highlight=sound+stops+working that was what the reboot was for :P
[23:23] <Xarver> Does anyone know how to get the flash plugin working again? I installed flash and it worked for a while, then it all of a sudden stopped working well. It works, but: Youtube doesn't have sound playing, and any other flash animation or game etc. plays a few secs and then stops. What's wrong, what happened?
[23:23] <BlindToSoundNG> mobi-sheep: "gksudo nvidia-settings" resulted in nothing.
[23:23] <christopher> ah cool i found theme changer
[23:23] <mobi-sheep> BlindToSoundNG: I see.  What about Hardware Drivers?  No choices there?
[23:24] <changerOfSea> thebrokenbox: it should be just deleting the part of the file that tells grub to use your other partition as a boot partition
[23:24] <changerOfSea> hey, I cant get virtual-desktops to change, I was messing around with compiz a little while ago, and now it doesnt work, any ideas?
[23:24] <amr> sammy, python is i heared how easy it is but i want to make tar.gz like apps not just app.py app like you got me ?
[23:24] <matreya6> Paddy_EIRE, yes, I know, I did these before, that why it was so fast ;-)
[23:24] <BlindToSoundNG> Only for my Broadcom wireless card [Enabled].
[23:24] <Xarver> christopher: You can find themes online, just search gnome themes if your on gnome
[23:24] <thebrokenbox> changerOfSea okay cool thanks
[23:24] <bmh> I have a question to all. I have a HDD with somes partition ext3 + 1 partition xfs. I done wrong command in diskpart (window7 command) and I lost all partition in my HDD. Now I need to recovery it. Does anyone help me?
[23:24] <Paddy_EIRE> matreya6: oh I see
[23:24] <amr> sammy, i want to compile
[23:24] <Xarver> christopher: Then download the theme and then upload it with Appearance
[23:24] <christopher> i just love the liquid effects, is there other effects your windows can do?
[23:24] <sammy> Gnea: I know! the drive with gentoo on it is no longer in the box. I'm trying to install ubuntu, but it freezes while talking about sda
[23:24] <Gnea> !compile | amr
[23:24] <matreya6> Paddy_EIRE, pulseaudio still doesn't work, BTW
[23:25] <AirBreather> amr: C is still a great language.
[23:25] <phaze74> Hi. I have my own private repository and I'm trying to permanently remove a package. I'm running "reprepro -b . remove jaunty packageName" and it looks like it succeeds. But when I do an apt-get update and an apt-cache search on one of my servers I can still see the package. Is there something I'm missing?
[23:25] <sammy> if I didnt get rid of the "quiet" boot flag, it doesn't do anything but lock with a blinking cursor
[23:25] <BlindToSoundNG> mobi-sheep: Incase you didn't get that, I said: Only for my Broadcom wireless card [Which enabled]
[23:25] <sammy> I have no idea why it's just stopped working
[23:25] <Paddy_EIRE> matreya6: do you need pulseaudio
[23:25] <mobi-sheep> BlindToSoundNG: Then you don't really have a powerful laptop, I would assume?
[23:25] <Gnea> sammy: get rid of 'splash' too
[23:25] <JonSnow> hi
[23:25] <Paddy_EIRE> matreya6: if you dont I would remove it and stick with alsa
[23:25] <JonSnow> hi
[23:25] <JonSnow> hi
[23:25] <changerOfSea> thebrokenbox: np, any chance you know how to solve my problem?
[23:25] <matreya6> Paddy_EIRE, ALSA has always worked for me
[23:25] <JonSnow> hi
[23:25] <Gnea> !repeat | JonSnow
[23:25] <mobi-sheep> BlindToSoundNG: I'm sorry but the command I gave you... it worked for me.  Our system are different. :(
[23:26] <JonSnow> hi
[23:26] <JonSnow> hi
[23:26] <Gnea> JonSnow: bye.
[23:26] <BlindToSoundNG> mobi-sheep: No, not really. Dual core @ 1.6GHz, 2GB of RAM, integrated graphics. :S
[23:26] <thebrokenbox> changerOfSea, doubt it, I'm not really that good at solving linux problems as Im still pretty new to it. :P
[23:26] <amr> Gnea,  i know how to compile but i want to write the code then compile what is the best langiage to make gtk apps
[23:26] <|ntegra|> Xarver: these are all in firefox i presume? >you'll have to 'clean up' the other installation(s) ...apt-get will clean out one nicely (the two of them will be conflicting) and then $locate flash (inside .firefox prolly) and rm
[23:26] <changerOfSea> thebrokenbox: thanks anyway
[23:26] <Gnea> amr: ask in #gtk or #gimp
[23:26] <AirBreather> amr: You may find C++ more useful specifically for GNOME apps, I guess, due to the nature of Object-Oriented Programming.  But still, Python is the way to go, unless your application will be time-critical.
[23:26] <bmh> Anyone can help me to recover the ext3 and xfs partitions with Ubuntu? Has a program in ubuntu to do it?
[23:26] <Xarver> |ntegra|: It's in all browsers
[23:27] <mobi-sheep> BlindToSoundNG: Integrated Graphics.  Lulz... :)  I have to go.  Do the oil change.  See you later. :)
[23:27] <Gnea> bmh: testdisk and sfdisk tend to do a pretty good job
[23:27] <phaze74> Is there a better channel to ask package manager and repository questions?
[23:27] <BlindToSoundNG> mobi-sheep: D:! :(
[23:27] <amr> so python and C++ are the best
[23:27] <|ntegra|> yes, you've installed two that'r conflicting with eachother
[23:27] <Gnea> !best | amr
[23:27] <BlindToSoundNG> mobi-sheep: Thanks for the help. Thanks for trying.
[23:27] <vr_mex> I need to store a file in /root so i do sudo cd /root and i get sudo: cd: command not found ; what am i doing wrong?
[23:27] <mobi-sheep> BlindToSoundNG: I failed you. :(
[23:27]  * mobi-sheep exit
[23:27] <mobi-sheep> Err...
[23:27] <BlindToSoundNG> mobi-sheep: No worries, my friend.
[23:27] <amr> ubottu, i know but i mean in developing gtk apps
[23:28] <bmh> Gnea: Do sfdisk can recover the lost ext3 and xfs partitions? And if Yes, please tell me the command in sfdisk
[23:28] <iliketofrolic666> are there any programs to control ubuntu with voice like vista has?
[23:28] <Paddy_EIRE> iliketofrolic666: if it was like vista then it would be broken
[23:28] <Gnea> amr: this is #ubuntu, the Ubuntu Support Channel. We don't support exactly what you are asking for.  Please /join #gtk or #gimp or #gnome and ask there.  Thank you.
[23:29] <DragonLinux> hey all
[23:29] <AirBreather> vr_mex: Don't cd with sudo.  If you want to have a root terminal, do sudo su.  You can do sudo cp (source) (target) to get something into that folder, without having to have a root terminal.
[23:29] <Xarver> Hi Drag
[23:29] <iliketofrolic666> cute paddy, but that doesn't help me
[23:29] <Gnea> !recover | bmh
[23:29] <JonSnow> sorry, i asked this, but was logged off and didn't realize it.   hello, is there a keyserver that runs on port 80? I would like to launchpad PPA's key, but the default port (11371) is blocked by a firewall.
[23:29] <Paddy_EIRE> iliketofrolic666: yeah it does
[23:29] <DragonLinux> anyone know of an xchat script that announces your hardware config and os compatible with ubuntu ?
[23:29] <Gnea> bmh: start with those sites, they can point you in the right direction
[23:29] <iliketofrolic666> paddy i know what does and doesn't help me
[23:30] <bmh> Gnea: Thanks
[23:30] <hse-hoens> I upgraded to a newer version of ubuntu, and now my dual boot with windows xp is busted, is there any tutorial on how to ifix it anywhere? (i haven't found anything)
[23:30] <abird> Hello All
[23:30] <AirBreather> hse-hoens: What specifically is broken about your dual boot?  Are you no longer able to boot into Windows?  Is there a specific error message you get?
[23:30] <christopher> so 8.10 of ubuntu is the latest
[23:31] <hse-hoens> yeah grub comes up fine, but windows complains and BSODs when boot starts
[23:31] <AirBreather> christopher: 9.04 is the latest official release.
[23:31] <Paddy_EIRE> iliketofrolic666: well the short answer is no.. the long one is noooooooooooooooo
[23:31] <christopher> oh
[23:31] <cheese1756> I'm thinking of installing Ubuntu on an old computer, is it easy to install?
[23:31] <dsdeiz> ok, so i've removed network-manager, are there any problems that i might encounter?
[23:31] <Gnea> JonSnow: actually, all we got was a repeat of 'hi' and then you left... a keyserver? and what would you like to do with launchpad's PPA's key?
[23:31] <dsdeiz> heh
[23:31] <Xarver> cheese1756: yes
[23:31] <cheese1756> ok
[23:31] <cheese1756> I think i'll try it
[23:31] <vr_mex> AirBreather: thanks a lot ;-)
[23:31] <iliketofrolic666> Paddy_EIRE the long answer involves you being an idiot fan boy among other things....the short answer is I just found information proving you wrong
[23:32] <christopher> can i upgrade within my programs menu
[23:32] <tbird02> Hi, i need some help with a USB hard drive - it mounts as read only...
[23:32] <Paddy_EIRE> iliketofrolic666: hey mate I am not being a troll I was just being good humoured be a twat else where or you will be kicked
[23:32] <Gnea> tbird02: using what fs?
[23:32] <matreya6> Paddy_EIRE, I have followed the instructions for reinstalling pulseaudio again, will reboot, be back soon.
[23:32] <tbird02> fat32
[23:32] <AirBreather> christopher: gksudo update-manager -d
[23:32] <Paddy_EIRE> matreya6: no problem mate
[23:32] <hse-hoens> AirBreather i don't recall the exact error message off hand though
[23:32] <christopher> thanks
[23:32] <Gnea> tbird02: why not ntfs or ext3?
[23:32] <Xarver> cheese1756: Although if it's old Ubuntu might be a little sluggish. You might want to try Damn Small Linux if it's older than 2000
[23:33] <tbird02> umm i think its fat32. how do i find out?
[23:33] <Gnea> tbird02: df -Th
[23:33] <AirBreather> hse-hoens: It seems odd that an Ubuntu upgrade would damage Windows.  Are you able to access your Windows partition within Ubuntu?
[23:33] <cheese1756> It's a newish computer, not a netbook
[23:33] <Paddy_EIRE> iliketofrolic666: google is also handy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_speech_recognition_software#Native_Linux_speech_recognition
[23:33] <hse-hoens> AirBreather yes, I can access it, and I could boot to windows before the upgrade
[23:33] <hse-hoens> the windows partition was mounted during the upgrade
[23:33] <tbird02> says "no file systems processed"
[23:33] <Xarver> cheese1756: Then go for it. :)
[23:34] <cheese1756> Ok! Great
[23:34] <Gnea> tbird02: it does? where are you typing this?
[23:34] <tbird02> terminal
[23:34] <iliketofrolic666> Paddy_EIRE thank you
[23:34] <AirBreather> hse-hoens: Have you tried to repair the filesystem with fsck?
[23:34] <christopher> i can't find the command window where i input it
[23:34] <Gnea> tbird02: and you typed it exactly?  df -Th  it has to be df, followed by a space, then - a capital 'T' and a lowercase 'h'
[23:34] <hse-hoens> why would i repair an ntfs partition with fsck....
[23:35] <steven_> How do I disable keyrings? I do not want keyrings. I am tired of this keyring crap to connect to the wireless network
[23:35] <Gnea> hse-hoens: why would you attempt the impossible?
[23:35] <michele_> Hi, I have some problem with my Nvidia 9500 on my dell notebook. Some windows are not refreshed when using Compiz (they refresh only if maximized or changed the size). Any idea or suggestion?
[23:35] <hse-hoens> Gnea?
[23:35] <Gnea> hse-hoens?
[23:35] <AirBreather> hse-hoens:  Sorry, I had a lapse, ntfsfix?
[23:35] <AirBreather> ntfsfix from ntfsprogs
[23:35] <hse-hoens> Gnea don't understand your question
[23:35] <Gnea> hse-hoens: there is no fsck-program that will fix a ntfs partition.
[23:36] <AirBreather> Gnea: You meant to aim that one at me, I made that noob mistake
[23:36] <Gnea> tbird02: please keep the chat here
[23:36] <Gnea> AirBreather: oh ok :)
[23:36] <Gnea> hse-hoens: sorry
[23:36] <tbird02> i typed it wrong. /dev/sdb1  fuseblk    466G   82G  385G  18% /media/Backup
[23:36] <matreya6> Paddy_EIRE, rebooted, now even the welcome bongo's of Ubuntu suddenly get cut off. Now I mention it, that's when the incidents started...
[23:37] <Gnea> tbird02: hrm, fat32 wouldn't be using the fuse block device... it would be using vfat
[23:37] <Gnea> tbird02: looks more like ntfs to me
[23:38] <tbird02> the thing is it mounts fine and i can see it on the desktop
[23:38] <Gnea> tbird02: can you pastebin the output of the dmesg command please?
[23:38] <tbird02> but i can't write to it
[23:38] <AirBreather> !info ntfs-config
[23:38]  * felix_ fears the electric storm that is being created over madrid sky
[23:38] <matreya6> Paddy_EIRE, I hope the devs get it right sometime. Sound is a total mess on the Linux desktop. All those different servers having to cooperate with eachother...
[23:39] <Gnea> AirBreather: yeah, that might help, but I'm thinking he just needs to ntfsfix it
[23:39]  * bc wonders why 208 pages worth of book published by Cambridge Univ. Press is a whopping $83 USD.
[23:40] <dreamy> could i get the firmware drivers for my realtek ? wich ones do i have now ? opensource?
[23:40] <tbird02> gnea: http://pastebin.ca/1431447
[23:40] <bc> apologies for OT; I'll shut up.
[23:40] <whileimhere> I have two sets of command line commands that I need to run once in awhile. One is sudo opt/lampp/lampp stop and the other is the same but start. Is there a way to put this as a set of icons on my panel?
[23:40] <dreamy> are there realtek drivers for linux  ? :S
[23:40] <AirBreather> whileimhere: Right-click your panel -> Add to Panel, add a custom application launcher
[23:41] <Paddy_EIRE> matreya6: that is what pulseaudio is here to solve.. its just having teething troubles.. but its a step in the right direction
[23:41] <Ciros> How do I restart x11 without rebooting?
[23:41] <AirBreather> Ciros: Ctrl + Alt + Backspace (disabled by default in Jaunty)
[23:41] <__ed__> ctrl alt bksp
[23:42] <matreya6> Paddy_EIRE, would an output of what happens when I start pulseaudio be helpful to you? Some errors as well, relating to ALSA-sinks...
[23:42] <Ciros> AirBreather: well, yeah am in jaunty, but x11 has stoped properly responding, I know there is a shell command too.   I wouldnt be on irssi, if everything was responding.
[23:43] <Paddy_EIRE> matreya6: sorry but I am weak when it comes to pulseaudio
[23:43] <tbird02> gnea: http://pastebin.ca/1431447
[23:43] <AirBreather> Ciros: Go to a tty, and do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[23:43] <Gnea> tbird02: odd... could I please ask you to pastebin the output of this command as well:  sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb
[23:43] <Ciros> that is what i needed.  thanks
[23:43] <Paddy_EIRE> !nozap | Ciros
[23:43] <Paddy_EIRE> !dontzap | Ciros
[23:43] <matreya6> Paddy_EIRE, Thank you for helping me thus far, do you know someone on this channel that has good knowledge regarding pulse?
[23:44] <Paddy_EIRE> matreya6: the only other place I can recommend is #ubuntu-offtopic although then again they may redirect you here
[23:44] <Paddy_EIRE> matreya6: worth a try though
[23:44] <tbird02> gnea: http://pastebin.ca/1431451
[23:44] <Gnea> !pulseaudio | matreya6
[23:46] <Gnea> tbird02: well, that says it's using 7, which is the NTFS disk label, so it must be NTFS.  give this a shot:  sudo umount /media/Backup && sudo ntfsfix /dev/sdb1
[23:47] <Gnea> matreya6: what are you trying to do with pulse?
[23:47] <tbird02> gnea: sudo: ntfsfix: command not found
[23:47] <matreya6> Gnea, thanks for the pointer. I knew that already. I have heard lots of cursing about pulseaudio, but I'm willing to brave the hickups of this infant it will result in a clean sound system for the Linux desktop. Right now, it sends some people that I know back to Windows... :-( Not me, I'm running Linux since Suse 6.4 (2000 I guess...)
[23:47] <AirBreather> tbird02: ntfsfix comes with the ntfsprogs package, so if that command does not work, then you should do sudo apt-get install ntfsprogs
[23:48] <dsdeiz> hi, where can i find a tutorial about real transparency?
[23:48] <Gnea> matreya6: :) pulse can be a pain sometimes, othertimes it's a lifesaver. i used to tell people to just shut it off. now, i got it working over my lan so that sound from 2 other machines is heard thru the speakers of a 3rd.
[23:48] <dsdeiz> !RealTransparency
[23:48] <dsdeiz> !Transparency
[23:48] <matreya6> Paddy_EIRE, Gnea, my guess is that a standard update of Ubuntu broke pulse
[23:48] <Gnea> matreya6: of course, it's not perfect, and suffers a performance hit when there's a high system load
[23:49] <Gnea> matreya6: pulse doesn't work very well out-of-the-box on ubuntu, it takes a bit of configuration - what have you done so far?
[23:49] <Paddy_EIRE> matreya6: sadly some regressions can occur.. all we can do really is file bug reports
[23:50] <Paddy_EIRE> matreya6: Gnea knows much more about this than I do
[23:50] <linduxed> my friend has given some ms-word invoice templates that have (according to him) been created a looong time ago in some old ms-word and then resaved through a couple of versions. he has got paper printed to match the invoice templates so its imperative that the stuff works.
[23:50] <linduxed> when i try to open the thing in openoffice it doesnt quite look right, is there a special compatibility mode for old ms-word docs or is it "Open and pray"?
[23:50] <matreya6> Gnea, I have just reinstalled pulse through the instructions on: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789578&highlight=sound+stops+working
[23:50] <Soren_> hi everyone
[23:50]  * Gnea reads
[23:51] <Soren_> felix_ are you sleeping
[23:51] <tbird02> gnea: sudo ntfsfix /dev/sdb1
[23:51] <tbird02> Mounting volume... FAILED
[23:51] <tbird02> Attempting to correct errors...
[23:51] <tbird02> Processing $MFT and $MFTMirr...
[23:51] <tbird02> Reading $MFT... OK
[23:51] <FloodBot1> tbird02: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:51] <tbird02> Reading $MFTMirr... OK
[23:51] <matreya6> Gnea, I noticed that these instructions did not involve removing the /etc tree for Pulse.
[23:51] <felix_> not Soren_
[23:52] <AirBreather> linduxed: In OOo, file -> open allows you to select the File Type.  Click on that arrow and then try selecting an older version of Microsoft Word.
[23:52] <matreya6> Gnea, can I trouble you with the output of pulseaudio starting (and spewing out errors)?
[23:52] <Soren_> felix_ you better not make yourself sick
[23:52] <Gnea> tbird02: please pastebin that
[23:52] <felix_> Soren_, im programming as crazy
[23:52] <Ciros> AirBreather:  thnx for the help, even though still ended up needing to reboot.
[23:52] <Gnea> matreya6: if you're familiar with pastebin, please, go ahead
[23:52] <tbird02> gnea: http://pastebin.ca/1431468
[23:52] <Macmee> Guys, I just updated to Ubuntu 9 from 8, and now on the Ubuntu boot screen the loading bar stopped moving. Can someone help?
[23:52] <matreya6> Gnea, http://pastebin.ca/1431469
[23:53] <Soren_> felix_, what is the best program for Yahoo IM? pidgin?
[23:53] <Gnea> tbird02: looks good, now run it again :)
[23:53] <matreya6> Soren_, yes Pidgin should work fine
[23:53] <felix_> Soren_, i dunno other indtead
[23:53] <tbird02> gnea: run what again?
[23:53] <felix_> indeed
[23:53] <Macmee> Guys, I just updated to Ubuntu 9 from 8, and now on the Ubuntu boot screen the loading bar stopped moving. Can someone help?
[23:53] <Gnea> tbird02: sudo ntfsfix /dev/sdb1
[23:54] <Gnea> tbird02: it should say that it mounted correctly and that there are no errors
[23:54] <Soren_> do you guys/girls know of a god/dess of sound that comes in here
[23:54] <tbird02> gnea: Refusing to operate on read-write mounted device /dev/sdb1.
[23:54] <Macmee> Guys, I just updated to Ubuntu 9 from 8, and now on the Ubuntu boot screen the loading bar stopped moving. Can someone help?
[23:54] <DumbDude> hi
[23:54] <Gnea> tbird02: I see. see if you can write to it now
[23:54] <matreya6> Gnea, do you know a way to stop the translating of error messages? Now some of it is in Dutch (my system language) and most of it is English.
[23:55] <Macmee> can't anyone help me,?????
[23:55] <Gnea> matreya6: check out line 12, it points to a clue
[23:55] <Gnea> !helpme | Macmee
[23:55] <phlexonance> I can't find the setting to make my apt-get autoinstall the recommended packages
[23:55] <Macmee> Guys, I just updated to Ubuntu 9 from 8, and now on the Ubuntu boot screen the loading bar stopped moving. Can someone help?
[23:56] <Gnea> Macmee: try booting again, but remove the 'quiet splash' from the kerne line
[23:56] <Gnea> *kernel
[23:56] <AirBreather> !tell Macmee about repeat
[23:56] <Macmee> Gnea: how do I remove it from the line?
[23:56] <matreya6> Gnea, ah, you mean membership of pulse-rt? That is fixed in a jiffy.
[23:56] <Gnea> matreya6: check your Users & Groups in the Administration menu and make sure that you are having proper access
[23:57] <Gnea> matreya6: yes, you should make sure that you are also part of pulse-access
[23:57] <Macmee> Gnea, could you please tell me how to remove it from the file, if I cannot boot?
[23:57] <conorgil> xchat new channelpath
[23:58] <Gnea> Macmee: do it at boottime, where it gives you the opportunity to press ESC, then just follow the directions to 'e'dit the proper lines
[23:58] <matreya6> Gnea, I'm already a member of both groups (as should be)
[23:58] <tbird02> gnea: it works now! thank you. is it normal for it to take 1 hour to transfer 8.2 gb?
[23:58] <Gnea> tbird02: over USB? yeah.
[23:58] <Macmee> alright Gnea I'll see to it, thanks
[23:58] <dsdeiz> anyone here a fan of true transparency? heh
[23:59] <tbird02> oic. does xubuntu support esata?
[23:59] <Greyhound-> I am, I am
[23:59] <Gnea> tbird02: yes.
[23:59] <CaMason> hi guys. The other day, I enabled the monitor output on my laptop. Since then, I disabled it. Now, I can only get 2 desktops to show, even though it's set to more in compizconfig
[23:59] <Gnea> matreya6: were you a member of those groups before you logged in?
[23:59] <tbird02> would it be faster than usb?
[23:59] <dsdeiz> Greyhound-: may i ask how you did it? lolz.. i can't seem to understand a thing :(